Jim Caviezel - Playing Jesus in The Passion of the Christ | SRS #64

hey guys we're having dinner right now. with Jim I know you guys have been. waiting a long time for this one it's. coming out right now please comment save. the children below to help us with the. algorithm you guys know that's a hard to. overcome and buy a ticket to sound of. Freedom love you all enjoy the. show Jim cisel hey Sean thank you for.

coming it's a real honor to be sitting. across from you right now with all the. work that you've done and um just thank. you thank you Sean pleasure to be here. we have a lot to talk about so you just. a quick intro actor Christian husband. father abolitionist acting for 30 plus. years you're a devout Catholic you allow. your faith to guide you on the projects. that you choose you've been married. since 19 96 which is incredible.

congratulations you are a father to. three adopted children from China two. with brain tumors and one that had. cancer amazing amazing how are they. they're doing great yeah we very very. blessed how old are they the oldest is. 23 oh amazing and then 21 and then uh um. the youngest is 13 how old were they. when you adopted them the uh the two.

oldest were five when we got them and. then the youngest was just a year. old that's amazing and they we didn't we. didn't know uh what was going to happen. I just finished the. passion and um our first. um the producer of the passion his wife. Susie was in the back of the church.

and they this um she had a picture of. this little chinan with a a tumor on the. top of his head and she says will you. adopt him and I was looking at his eyes. and and I heard Jesus say to me from the. little boy's mouth he said will you love. me and I said yes so she asked me will. you adopt him but I wanted to do more. than that so that began the first of the.

adventure and my wife heard the words um. take the ones I send. you wow yeah that is uh thank you for. sharing that sure that's. incredible so I am a uh I just found. Faith a couple months ago I grew up a. Catholic and when I join the SE teams. and some of the things that I saw. just just destroyed my faith for the.

better part of 20 years that you saw in. the SEAL Teams or that you saw in your. faith in the SEAL Teams okay and. um and that just carried on until. literally a couple months ago I had a. pretty. profound incident. um the way I described was everywhere I. looked I hated what I saw and I started. vocalizing it and um we had had a you. know discussion just before filming.

about this but it was it was everything. it was the stuff that I'm seeing. happening to Children the. pedophilia the the the surgeries the. puberty blockers the abortions all of it. and uh and everything else that's in. company uh encompassing our country. right now and the world and and I when I. started vocalizing it I hit a point. there was a day. where God showed up and.

instead of everywhere I looked. I what I saw what I I. hated everywhere I looked he was right. there talking to me and literally I had. five or six different things happen. within 48 hours and and um it was. incredible but uh so I think it's. very not ironic not a coincidence that. you're here just a couple months later. and I've had some other interviews um.

that that we discuss we go into this in. detail but uh everybody on the show. always gets a gift and usually it's a. bag of vigilance Elite gummy bears uh. from my company but for you I wanted to. give you this rosary a and. um so I want to tell you about I want to. tell you about that. Rosary when I found my. faith I got public about it and a good.

friend of mine his name is Dom Razzo uh. we were together at Seal Team too and. then he went on to Development Group. Seal Team 6 and when he saw that I'd. come out and announced my faith uh he. sent me that Rosary to give me. protection and I've carried it with me. every day since my goodness and uh with. the stuff that you're about to uncover. with these with this new film sounds of. freedom I think maybe you're going to.

need some of that production so it's my. honor to to pass that on to you thank. you very much you're welcome but you. know. um I remember having a conversation with. Sean Penn a long time ago when we were. doing The Thin Red Line and he asked me. a lot of questions about faith and. everything. and and the character that I was in the. film was named is a wit private first.

class wit in the World War II. film and sha and I would like in the. morning and the night would go run and. stuff and uh um he was he mentioned to. me about you know this all this stuff in. the church and things going on why even. why and I said. uh there was a there's a place in the. Bible John the Baptist when he cried out.

you know here's a guy that lived on. Locust and. honey and had you. know U nothing and he lived on every. breath from God his own father. Zachariah um doubted God so I imagine. that when he was. born he had to go out and find another. father the real father you know adopted.

father and and at some point God taught. him everything you know how. to Every Breath of God knew it and once. he understood it there was he was like. probably two three people showed up it. was like a a needle and a a stack they. found him and they their hearts got on. fire and then they went and told the. people at the temple and all started. coming out but not in you know first.

probably 10 20 then eventually in the. thousands we're there and Jesus often. mentions this these Pharisees the. priests at the time like to admire their. own factories you know their own robes. and everything you see they set at the. highest places and. eventually um they had no more audience. see they were out.

with John the Baptist they went out to. see him and they thought H we need to. recruit him over to our side and. eventually they probably tried and then. what not and then he called them out he. says you brood of vipers you den of. Thieves and what you've done to the. people how. you um and he said do you think because. you're a Jew you're getting into heaven. God could turn these stones into Jews I.

thought of that myself you know. um that I could I was given an. Incredible Gift and but I'm I'm always. better actor with. God that he does something to me that's. so much better and so um I'm a I'm a. slave to him I I want to be he's holy. I'm not not whole I'm not whole body.

mind and soul I'm not without him and um. and I'll always you know when I'm with. people like Sean pen who is brilliant uh. genius actor um I'm just I have a gift. but I'm so much better at my gift uh. with him in in me um there's a lot of. Temptation in the business but I'm not.

an easy guy to love so you know I'm very. fortunate that my wife Carrie loves me. and my children love me and um I'm very. content uh with that but the gift really. is you know how many people I can help. Jesus um to lead to heaven cuz. ultimately that's where we need to be. recently A friend of mine uh David.

Rodriguez you know and we met back in uh. um 2004 when I did the passion and he. was this big you know incredible fighter. he was you see but he started asking me. stuff about the passion you said do you. actually believe in that stuff and I. said I do and it was worth everything it. was worth my life because uh when I. first got into. the about 14 years old I. uh really bad thing happened and I ran I.

was running out on a road and. um my feet were all cut up and I didn't. have any I ran like eight or 10 miles to. a to my friend's house oh and I. was when I was doing uh g j Hashim. shalan the guy next to me was a seal. like you and he said you can't hurt us. and I remember thinking that. uh there when you're wounded in the.

heart physically you can do anything to. me but cuz my heart was so wounded and I. asked God to help me I I reached a point. where I I didn't want to live any longer. and you know when people especially now. the suicide rate is so high and I always. tell you know people that are out there. thinking I want to end it I said can you. imagine if I had ended it I when God. would have said look I'm you know you.

young man boy 14 you know here's what I. had planned for you I was get to play. his son what a what a sad thing that. would have been but I cried out to God. and I asked Lord you know what's my. purpose what what do you want me to do. in this life and he came to me in a. movie theater presents came a thousand. your soul knows this but about a thous. th000 uh yards thousand yards exactly.

landed outside his presence landed. outside the theater now you got to be. careful when you ask God tell me what's. my purpose I meant it and he came into. the theater and I I felt this love all. around me and this presence um uh it was. as if I was God's only child that's how. much he loved me that was everything to. me me everything that somebody out there.

loved me like that and then the presence. went from love uh to peace I'd never. felt this peace before it was definitely. from heaven and then the voice said I'd. like you to be an actor and it left an. indelible mark on my heart at the time I. was like I don't know anything about how. to do that stuff but I had no idea I had. the gift and he and so um I came to.

Hollywood and and I had this Vision. where Jesus how how do I do it but I had. this Vision that Jesus would always take. care of me like a child like a baby and. um then it went from that to you know. this was 10 years of just I I you know. the difference between one of um your. team guys asked me about what what was. how hard was it and I said the only.

difference is I didn't have an. instructor I I I I had to do it on my. own I had to look everything up I had to. and it broke me and but I got up in the. morning I really my instructor was Jesus. I would go to mass at 5:30 in the. morning 6:30 I get up at 5:30 I was at. mass at 6:30 and then I would go down. and do what I knew I was playing. basketball I played basketball for 18. years played in college and then um.

that's all I knew so I was working out. with all the players um down at loyal. maram Mount and then. UCLA and eventually started doing. workouts with NBA players and um. creating workouts for them and and. during some at some point I got an. opportunity for The Thin Red Line and it. was 14 auditions later uh I got the film. but what what I loved about it was that.

you know I'm my. friend Brad barup uh passed away when he. says when I met Jim he was he was. guarding Paul Pierce who's NBA all Famer. and he was talking smack to Paul Pierce. and I was cuz my friend Phil Weber who's. brilliant NBA coach and uh a just a. genius um Guru when it comes to just um. positive mental um Focus my dad played.

for woodn't at. UCLA um but he had the the Pyramid of. Success he had the industriousness work. ethic and the enthusiasm those are the. two Corner blocks of the Pyramid of. Success that never changed um and so. that mentality uh you know um prodding. Paul Pierce was like I don't care I'm. not making the team I just want to be um. go to my auditions and have that fire in. my gut to overcome the.

nervousness that you feel when you you. you're about ready to perform yeah and. 14 auditions in a row um and it was. always through this great spirit it's. the Holy Spirit but it it. um uh pushed through my mental and my. physical at the highest level constantly. and kept me EX at the same time time. keeping me humble and and.

content you had. mentioned something happened when you. were eight that caused you to do that. run and if I heard you correctly 14 14. yeah what was. that. um it's hard to answer because um. there's a there's a forgiveness there.

and bringing it up. um. would I think would do damage okay to. that. individual but I've already forgiven. that. individual sometimes like when we were. doing The Passion of the. Christ um. the the uh. pain that I had to go.

through was so. incredible uh was hypothermia. hypothermic my makeup times were from. 2:00 in the morning till 10:00 and from. 10:30 to 4:30 it was. freezing then uh I you know they had to. take the. skin a new application that is now all. Hollywood uses now and those guys didn't. even get an award for it um Christian. Tinsley Keith vanderland Christian.

Tinsley invented this to during the. scourging scenes um we used it but it. was burning my skin at the time we were. getting it down um and. um and so I was. um um in a lot a lot a lot of pain on. that movie and then I had to learned the. Aramaic the Hebrew and the Latin and so. I only get 3 hours of sleep then I would. get up and then I would they they. created a cross with a bicycle seat in.

the middle and then I'd hold my here and. they would tie it and I'd just fall. asleep standing or sitting on this. little bicycle seat and then um then the. cold would hit again and then eventually. I got a pneumonia and then it um uh was. on every antibiotic in the world but I. wasn't getting arrest and so they would. try to move me around but um and to do. other scenes they could but but um so.

during the one particular take I had. dislocated my shoulder and I I bit. through my tongue and it's the part. where Mary comes over and now before. that I said God you know I'm done trying. to do there was a lot of frustrating. things that were happening I just said. God I don't want them to see me I only. want them to see. you and that's when the whole film. changed and but but it came with the the.

cross hitting me in the back of the head. biting through my tongue and my cheek. and then my mouth bokade with blood and. when you see me turn on this particular. take there's a stream of blood that is. coming out of my mouth and I turn to. Mary and I. Sayes behold mother I make all things. new and at that point then I take the. cross now my shoulders dislocated and. everything I had I got it.

over I think. that if you look deep I don't like. particularly drinking piss and vinegar. but if I have to I. will and especially when the outcome is. saving souls and I go back to. myself. when I didn't feel like anybody did and. God said he did and so I want to love. him and bring as many Souls as I could.

to him so it was always in my intention. in that film that when people see it. that they do not see me that they only. see. Jesus it's one of. the not one of the most. realistic film I've ever watched and. um it. really it really puts things into. perspective it did for me when I watched.

it um backtracked in just a little bit. and then I want to ask you a couple more. questions about the. passion you mentioned. forgiveness and that whatever happened. it sounds like it was obviously very. traumatic I think a lot of people. including myself struggle with. forgiveness um with forgiving others and. maybe even forgiving themselves and. um the that creates a lot of toxicity a. lot of resentment a lot of uh negative.

emotions and how long did it take you. to to find how to. forgive I want to give a big thank you. out right now to all the vigilance Elite. patrons out there that are watching the. show right now just want to say thank. you guys you are our top supporters and. you're what makes this show actually. happen if you're not on vigilance lead.

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either way love you all let's get back. to the show thank. you Sean you. know the um it's a it's a journey I. think there's it's not some people I. think it's. instant um I think others I think.

it's. continually um and I'll tell you this. because uh there's Pride involved in our. whole makeup and there's. the what are you listening to you know. there's two masters. here. um cuz one of the Masters obviously. is the angel of Light the Lucifer in. Lucifer and when but next to God's light.

is you can see the darkness. everywhere. um when I focus on the. scripture and I think of the things that. I've. done that I've my own sin and I. shouldn't be forgiven for it and he's. willing to do that for me then I have. no choice. but to do that for.

others um I'm not telling you that that. person is hurting you you have to keep. being with that person there's Jesus. clearly says at one point you know dust. the shoes off your sandals and move. on um but you you can pray for that. individual and here's what when you. think of principalities of good versus. evil every time you pray for them your. moving angels in over them so you're.

really afflicting. them they don't like the light on them. they want the demons around them but by. putting those angels around them you. bring light on them and so then um but. there's too many things to do in this. world to just keep holding on to those. things and then you. ultimately For the Love of you know we. were talking about my children earlier. for the love of my children and my wife. why afflict them with the Vengeance.

that's eventually going to come out and. it's and you're not going to be who you. used to be it's like Darth Vader. remember Star Wars you become more. mechanical and you lose the childlike. quality in you you're not free anymore. you're. oppressed my prayer has always been you. know can I imagine that individual that. that I want to hate to become to come.

back into the light again yes if that's. your purpose then pray for them that's. the best chance they have ever coming. back I mean if really if they're that. dark and that evil um but there are sins. that are unforgivable and Jesus talks. about those. too that's the rejection of the Holy. Spirit and that is a lot what is it with. this whole thing with the children.

that many of them will never ever get a. chance because you when a lot of these. pedophiles and when they do these. sins God is telling them do you. understand this is it and they do it. anyway and so um let the dead bury their. dead at that. point I can't wait to dive into this. subject um it's something that I've I.

made a promise to my audience that I. would dive deep into this subject this. this year and uh and continue moving on. back to the back to the passion yeah you. had a extremely successful Hollywood. career. you I just want to say also that I mean. you are a fantastic role model and there. aren't. especially coming from Hollywood I don't.

believe there are very many people um in. that Circle that are good role models. and and I have a tremendous amount of. respect for you because of it and uh. just doing some research on you before. you got here you've turned. down scenes that involve nudity that. involve sex um for your faith for. respect out of your wife i' not heard of. anybody else doing that um.

also uh specific scenes that uh have to. do with violence from what I understand. uh you also turn those down and um it's. just really refreshing to see somebody. that can that can stand by their. values with that amount of pressure in. front of them and not fold and I. recommend you for that it all all of. every film has something in it that a. power and then you go okay what's. necessary what's not necessary um it.

does not mean that I will not play The. Devil in a movie but I the difference is. I don't go to the devil to ask him how. to play him I go to God to teach me how. to play this because when I do it should. unearth you um there was a film I did. with Denzel Washington Deja Vu and that. had a lot to do with it and so I got to. write my monologue and piece in there. with the Denzel Tony Scott and Jerry.

Brock armer allow me to do it but I. looked at a lot of. the um along the way I've always got to. work with really good agents ATF FBI CIA. all and and I write notes down and then. I bring that back into the script and. when I got to watch some of the um the. the interrogations that I got to see you. always hear another voice coming out of. these guys like the devil speaking right.

through them and talking about their. Destiny their their their their making. their maker their time and and and I. just would write a lot of that down and. and I would pray deeply about it and. going into the scene. because um when an individual watches. the. movie you um F watching. film time suspends itself you know if I.

said you're going to sit in this room in. that chair for two hours but if you do. if the actors play it right you're so. entranced into the film that you time. just goes by like that and so um I'm. still that 14 15y old kid that watches a. movie and in my mind set and say what. what I what would keep me on the edge of. my seat what would keep me entranced. into this um character and The Passion.

of the Christ was very brutal especially. when we went to the cat of nine Tales. again we're I'm working with the best. people in the world that are revealing. to me this is really what happened so. when we were looking at like the shroud. of Turan you can see the the um the. shrouded turn is a a image ofes. Jesus and when you start going into the.

uh track lines on his body you can see. the bamboo sticks the Romans would have. used on him but then you all see the see. the de deep ones where it looks like the. Grand Canyon in your skin and they like. I remember Keith vanderland saying. people will go into shock now when they. see this I mean this this is a cat in. nine tals this is. horrific and he said I'll take him to. the edge so was very brutal but in that. particular case that violence was.

important because that violence is our. sin so it's always about committing to. what this film needs to be if you use. every profanity in in the book. constantly eventually you get numb to it. but you use it once it'll hit you if you. need it if it's necessary in the film. like for example if you watched it's a. wonder Wonder ful life that. film was very profound in its time and.

very hard to watch and during Christmas. the most beautiful time of the year and. you don't want to drop an F bomb in that. movie you know but if you watch it it's. very powerful because this guy wants to. end his life it's over he doesn't see. what his value in his life and this. Angel comes to him and shows him George. don't you understand if if you Wen not. around these people wouldn't they they. would never made it without you we have.

to look at our lives like that one of. the most profound scenes in that movie. was when Jimmy Stewart the Kea had that. camera on him and he says God if you're. out there please help me and those were. real tears that man flew 26 missions in. a liberator over Germany World War II. and you understand that when you're. flying over in that tight formation and. one of those planes goes out everybody. has to remain quiet on their.

calms Stewart lived with ptst his entire. life and especially in that scene and. I'm sure that that that trauma played. out there but God used it in the most. beautiful way just as some of the trauma. that I grew up with God used it in the. most profound way in films like sound of. Freedom or The Passion of the. Christ. when you got.

word about the project Passion of the. Christ it almost sounds like well how. did you get word about that. film crazy um I mean if you. [Music]. um so I um get a call that um I knew Mel. Gibson was but I did not know was Steve. mavi and that was his key producer main.

main guy that guy did Braveheart which. was the previous film Mel had directed. 15 years. earlier and um so they invited me to do. a. film uh about with it was uh I think it. was Tom Hanks and Mel Gibson were going. to do this together it was on Mavericks. was the big surfing wave and the. director that wanted to direct it was.

Kevin Reynolds who just directed me in. the count ofmany. Cristo so I went to meet them and I meet. and Mel wasn't even supposed to show up. but he did about 40 minutes. in and uh we were talking about the. movie I didn't think the script was. there yet now that was going to be a. hard film to shoot I'm not a surfer but. I was a basketball player so I thought. maybe you know anyway but this the the.

the material wasn't there and was. talking to him about the material and. then all of a sudden M pivot to. something and then I went back to when I. was a young man in the theater and I. said oh my God this is why he called me. to become an. actor and I said you want me to play. Jesus don't you and he looked at me he. was smoking a cigarette and he. just yeah I put his head. down and he was really scared and I said.

okay what what like how can you what. okay so I had all that preparation what. was the fear do you think well 2 days. later he called me at my house and I was. taking the garbage out and I heard um I. picked up the phone and I said yeah I. was busy and he goes hey Jim is Mel I. said Mel who he goes I don't know Mel. bro Brooks hey smoking a cigarette and. he goes do you still want to play this.

Jesus guy if you do you may never work. in this town. again and I was like SC it scared me I. just I was telling you I just bought a. Lamborghini and I was I'm have to give. all this stuff back and and I was scared. for a moment and then this peace came. over me and I it I could feel it it was. from heaven and I said look man we're. all called to carry our CR if you don't. pick up and carry your cross you will be. crushed by the weight of it and then he.

got really quiet on the phone and then I. said oh my God he said what I said I. just realized my initials are JC and I'm. 33 years old and he goes God you're. freaking me out he hung up the. phone and then maavi came probably 5. days. later and. then and then you know. uh how was it did Mel have fear too to.

ask sure he was what do you think his. fear was none of us are good enough to. do it none of us are it's because of who. we are our past everything what we're. talking. about um but the shame but I you know I. told my. friend um about that his name is Ivon.

and I said um he said you know Jim God. doesn't always choose the best but he. chose you what are you going to do about. it you know I kept my rosary with me I. prayed I went to I took the Eucharist. every. day. and I went to confession every. day um the rosary is awesome because. you're you're meditating on the entire. go gospels and when I was up there on. the cross I would pick 10 people out of.

the audience actually 11 one was first. one was the Our father and then I did 10. H Maries but I would start I continued. to pray the uh sorrowful mystery as I. was up there and I so I started in the. garden Gethsemane I thought of the. entire garden and I went to the. scourging scene I thought of. discouraging scene and I went from there. to the crown of thorns humiliation. and then uh and I would just look at one.

thing cuz I couldn't feel my hands. anymore my hands were numb at the end of. the movie my body's blue and uh the they. brought a stand up um and this doctor. came up and uh he could hear my heart. was in aib I would have have to have two. heart um major heart surgeries including. open heart um and then I was struck by. lightning on the last shot of the movie.

um and so I just kept going but I. remember hearing Jesus say to me am I. too close and I said you're not close. enough so this I I was H I was at peace. that you know that. this if this happened I felt uh like I. did something in this life I served my. purpose. why would playing Jesus Christ.

destroy your relationship with Hollywood. or potentially destroy it why would they. shun you well they did it immediately. when I took the film I was on all the. studio list they have to answer that. question the Christian bigotry is the. most accepted form of bigotry there is. and they need to be called to task on it.

why but here's the other. thing why do we pay money to go to their. why why support it anymore if we as. Christians said that's it and this is. like we need you on this film sound of. Freedom um but because it's amazing now. I don't I don't do faith-based films I. hate that you know why we never used it.

as a crutch on the passion and then all. of a sudden we were the faith-based film. we never called ourselves faith-based. we we were here is a phenomenal movie we. can beat anybody in the world we have. the. truth right the truth set you free go to. the film see if it. does um but now it's like we made a. faith-based film for you and so you owe. us your money no no you don't you don't.

put that and don't manipulate them and. that's another thing is not Christianity. is that. crap is is is uh you know like we're one. in the club I don't use that thing that. I'm saved I look at what Apostle Paul. said in when you contemplate your. salvation do it in fear and trembling. that's how I look at it um and finish. the race my race isn't done I've got a.

lot more to go but I don't like that. manipulation stuff and Jesus is not a. manipulator and um that is not. Christianity at all it needs to be. authentic Jesus is authentic he the most. authentic thing that has ever. existed was that a tough decision for. you at all or was it snap with a finger. I'm 100% in no matter what happens the.

passion yes because of what happened in. the movie theater when I was young yeah. we talked a little bit about spiritual. warfare before yes uh we started. recording. and with my new with my new faith I. think it's my mission to spread the word. and. it's it's already connecting me to. people that I never would have been. connected with before like yourself a.

couple other people that are coming on. the show soon and um everybody that's. around me. um that is a. Believer that's close to me has come to. me and told me be careful you need to. watch. out Eli crane told me there are no free. shots on target when you're talking. about spiritual war. Warfare and that evil will start to try.

to seep into my life the louder I get. about this did you experience anything. like. that that right there what you're saying. mhm that that's garbage okay and I want. to tell. you Michael the Archangel is is a patron. saint to the Navy Seals do you know this. prayer St Michael the Archangel defend. Us in battle be our protection against. the wickedness and snares the devil may. God rebuke him we humbly pray and do. thou Prince of the Heavenly Host by the.

power of God cast into hell Satan and. all those these Wicked spirits that move. throughout the world these these. entities will pay a high. price when they dare get near God's. children and you're God's child your. prayers see every time they do that they. risk being tossed into the firm furnace. forever and so this is their their job.

they serve underneath this wicked beast. and he's a beast but we have to be. you're you're. different Jesus often references sheep. all the. time and when Jesus goes and leaves to. find that one rescue sheep was which I. was but I've gone to other levels so. what would that be well when he's gone. looking for that sheep that lost sheep.

he's got sheep dogs that got wolf in. them and then we'll kill any of them. that come near those sheep we defend. them we we protect them they're also. wolves they have. converted and that's a different type of. guy that guy he's lethal so you've got. the Wolves coming in you've got. converted wolves Wes they know how they. hunt and then you got the sheep dog this. is how it's got to be to take them out.

and he's allowing us to step up like. David you know got this wrong the other. day it was uh Samuel I said Jeremiah it. was Nathan blah blah but it's Samuel. Samuel the prophet goes and. finds this uh it's told that out of this. man's home is going to be one of the. heads of is going to be the head of U. king of. Israel so he goes and meets all the boys.

and he says None of these are going to. be the head of. Israel and then the father he asked the. father by chance you have another kid he. says yeah back imagine the father didn't. even think nothing of his own son David. he outside he's a sheep herder there. nothing man I want to be a sheep herder. like that I want to love God in a. profound way that when I was 16 years. old and they were talking smack about my.

God that ain't going to happen around me. so I said I'm going to go down and I'm. going to kill this son of a. Goliath after I kill him you're going to. come around and take him out but David. was what what was profound it was like. nobody talks about my father this way. nobody he loved them that much can you. imagine our good. God. he's not loved Enough by. us he will gladly send his his his.

armies to protect us but we don't love. him enough we have to be above the. status quo of this modern-day. Christianity crap which I'm telling you. this Prosperity Gospel is do do you. know that you know the Bible wants you. to have beautiful things. man that's fine if you can hand it all. back the things that I have in this life.

my my my wife my children that that. family that's it with with God to me I. love beautiful things I love Lamborghini. and all that but Hey listen if I have to. give it back fine done it's. over. um uh. so. this it's not.

authentic and. um and there are a lot of wolves and. sheep's clothing in. our uh this modern day Christianity it's. fake that and and it's in the church. it's in the clergy it's in the. Bishops. pastors they they'll tell you but the. one that hits me me is the one where I I. know God's here you know I don't know.

you that long I walked in here and I. feel it already I knew it the moment I. met you said you're going to know this. guy for the rest of your. life thank. you Jim reason I'm asking is there. were there are some definite things that. happened during that film. that I would consider to be a deterrent. uh especially to. to weak people you were electrocuted.

struck by lightning we talked about some. of the other things that happened we. talked. about I mean even even from the. beginning when you when when you. accepted it you knew you were going to. be shunned do you think. that that was a deterrent from the devil. to keep you from doing this sure on the. way up the hill he said you're a dead. man. and my response dim was praise be to.

God.

I didn't want to live to see what was. going to come from that movie anyway it. might be my only chance into. heaven now people can say GM you just. don't know the B get. out. it's what you do faith without your. works is dead first James so many people.

say but they don't. do and I was doing and I felt good at. what I what had done and was doing now. fifth. take the it was bizarre. the I the wind was blowing hard and the. the. the clouds. were it felt like I could jump up and.

touch them and that was very mystical. what was happening in the ground you. could feel something in the. ground and um then uh the wind was. blowing and I I couldn't I could see. everybody there about 350 people that. were around me on a hill and uh the wind. was blowing and then I couldn't hear the.

wind and I could feel the suctioning. occur um and then um I it was probably. more like 3 seconds it felt like five. but was probably less than that and then. and then boom I shot me out of my body I. saw the back side not here. here. um and and uh then I was back then Yan. molini runs over and I remember looking.

at him and all of a sudden I saw his. hand blow up Sparks came out um there. was another shot that came down um and. then uh I was you know I was in shock. and then so I was on a lot of. medication until 2009 was my first. surgery at. Stanford um and then um my second one. was at Cleveland Clinic in. 2014 and that saved me you know saved my.

life I died on the operating table they. um I've never told that but I died um Dr. Gillan off Dr Griffin were my doctors. they witnessed it they brought me back. but I was supposed to be here um but. when I the reason why I brought that up. is I felt incredible peace and love that. waiting for us when you died when yes it. was amazing and I didn't you know I had.

this you know just hang on for a second. was really. calm and then they brought I saw the. whole thing didn't hurt uh the moment it. was like taking an egg cracking it and. then it just came out and I was dead and. I didn't have to breathe anymore and I. was looking at everybody running the the. room and they were panicking and I mean. they were doing stuff but they were. really scared wow you remember this oh I.

saw it and watched the whole thing. and um I watched. everything um and then I saw him put the. flaps on and then when I came back. that's when it. hurt but the horn I heard the horn go. off and it didn't hurt my ears but I. just it was like when I first met God. you know when he asked me to become an. actor I feel this great peace and love. the reason why I'm talking about it. right now is because so many people.

don't have the peace they don't have the. love and. um when I was on the cross you know. Jesus he says seven things and he he. says. um woman behold your son to John he says. this John behold your mother an Aramaic. woman is. in and then he he he calls her also Emy.

mother he differentiates people have to. say. why and the woman is Genesis I will put. Amity between the woman's seed in his. and. the mother. Mary um is the ark she carries the Son. of God to us and and she is the most. beautiful thing there's ever been um and.

he asks me to love it's I'm obeying. Jesus I'm obeying him Jim why don't you. go to Jesus cuz I'm obeying Jesus when. he told me to take the mother and this. the sons of Zebedee were at the foot of. the cross the the mother Zebedee J John. James and John their their mother was. there I'm sure she went wait I'm the. mother. Jesus often talks about who's my brother. who's my sister you know and he also.

says I didn't come to bring peace into. this world I came like a sword to divide. and that's the generational sin that's. passed on a lot of us lose our own. families he says who's my brother you're. my brother you know we're not of the. same DNA but we're adopted under God. you're my adopted brother you know my. sister. family you you we can have new families.

people that support us in in our love. for him and you'll find it you know it's. like how Jesus found these fishermen to. lead the church my God it's incredible. still looking for good fishermen still. looking for good. Davids when. you when you had that out of- body. experience on that operating. table when.

you were. revived was. there was there any time for. feeling oh man I don't know if I want to. go back or was it just all of a sudden. snap the finger and you're you're back. there's an intelligence with the soul. that's bizarre it knows the distance. when God lands in a room why that's. significant it's it's just it just is it.

your soul knows another language so the. mo moment I died it was I. could feel and understand this hang on. hang on a second we've got this kind of. a thing okay but you're. dead it's all good but on that side it's. like nothing it's amazing you know. um and. I I had.

a I had an experience. um when I was. um doing the passion. and um Jesus visited me a couple times. it was pretty. amazing. and one of them was he was off the left. side of my. bed and he was weeping and it was. extraordinary because I was so cold I. had a a crucifix the True Cross in my.

left hand it was chained around my wrist. and I was hypothermic so I was always it. was over 90° in the room and I had tons. and tons of clothes on and I was. shaking and and it hurt to shake cuz my. shoulder was. torn and and I looked over the left side. of my bed and there he was and I didn't. hesitate I didn't go oh my gosh I'm. having an apparition here I just.

went why is my Lord weeping and I got on. my bed and I put my arms around him and. I said Lord what's wrong and he pointed. to the ground and on the ground were all. of these cards Jacks kings and queens no. number cards just jacks kings and. queens and they had all these face cards. all over. and their faces were death.

faces Jesus says I am the vine you are. the branches you live in me live for. eternal life you. know but it when the leaf separated from. the. tree that was their death mask right. before they entered into. hell these people were giving incredible. gifts all throughout. time and they started with one for me. nine for God two for me eight for God.

and eventually nine for me one for God. and then all for me this how the game. works and I knew that he was telling me. when I asked him I don't want them to. see me I only want them to see. you I believe he was warning. me do you understand that where the this. could go cuz there's going to be a. version of you going to heaven and then. there's a version of you going to.

hell. and I said I will never betray you I. know what Peter said I've learned from. them I will not do that to you when you. asked me earlier you've done this this. this this yes those are good things but. you don't want to have a zero in your. life one time Z is zero but so is a. billion times zero you lose everything. so it's a daily thing and finish the. race and finish it.

strong that's a great way to put it that. makes a lot of sense thank. you let's. move into your latest project sounds of. Freedom with Tim. Ballard how did that come. about. by making the right decision. today Tim Ballard.

saw the count of Mony Crystal and there. was that was a rough one that was a hard. film CU there was a point there where. they removed God from the screenplay and. I asked them to put it back in and they. did but the scenes were too long they. had to be shortened but that God will. give me Justice was not in there when I. got the re right when I came to Ireland. to shoot it that had to go back in so I.

was the wrong guy for the movie unless. they put it back in thankfully they. did um so that's film that Tim saw the. other film was the passion and he's was. profoundly moved by those two films now. because of the trouble I got in after. the passion when they clearly said this. is an anti-semitic film and I clearly. said that Jesus is a Jew and we have. science behind.

this I've done nothing wrong and this. film is a righteous film and look at the. public they love this movie why will you. not allow me to work in this town okay. now I did get parts I had friends that. gave me great favors and helped me along. but it wasn't the same um from that. point on. now um Tim Ballard saw those two.

films and had I not made the decision it. wouldn't i' never you know been a part. of it but. again when God asked me I'd like you to. be an actor it wasn't going to be easy. this was going to be one of the hardest. things I've ever done and it just short. of the passion but it was the hardest. thing because of the children now Tim. Ballard came to me um first was uh.

Eduardo vastii the producer of the movie. and Alejandra Moni the director both. very talented and both extremely needed. in this particular team it required uh a. a producer that was going to lose all. the money on the movie and we were. finished um um Disney was going to buy. Fox so Disney obviously when they saw. this movie um they're Executives that. want the film but there you know.

eventually the bad one out and this is. not something they want to represent. their company count ofman. Christo okay but not this one um they. did not want me for this role um whoever. it was at Fox when Tim met with. them and he said no I got to have this. guy this is all I want. so. um so I met those those three.

individuals and that L us to go down to. Colombia and um my w wife just saw a. movie uh or show called Naros and she. didn't want me anywhere near down there. in this particular time when we were. down there it was. crazy and Tim said well tell Carrie my. wife that Jim will have 30 Navy Seals. around. him sure some of them are Rangers in. Delta too but.

[Laughter]. anyway they always say SEAL Teams anyway. um one day I was at work she gets on the. phone she calls me and she goes do you. have protection around there I said oh. yeah and want don't know maybe only two. today where are they they told me and. and well this particular um. moment they were on a mission they um. took down a really big uh group of guys.

and they saved 200 children while we. were filming so it was it was uh wasn't. the safest place we at one point we were. in cartel and I I area and and where I. was shoot where we were shooting I went. to go get my. sunglasses and you know I had guys like. you coming up to me and going you can. never do that again they'll pick you up. here in a heartbeat and uh we were in. their uh territory what what uh what.

part of Columbia were you in. Bogata cardenia Santa Mar Santa Mar Sant. Marta Marta and then. medine oh you did quite the tour oh yeah. yeah so let me just I don't know a whole. lot about the film as it's not out yet. but it's a about from my understanding. it's about the life of Tim Ballard what. he's doing and what he's doing is saving.

children all across the world from being. sex trafficked um exploited sexually. yeah so the the he um CIA moves to. Homeland. Security and the the frustration is he's. getting these um pedophiles and these um. traffickers but but he's not able to. save the children that's what he really. wants to do. um they were down in.

cxo and um where they took down um the. guy Ern lipinsky the guy that I come in. one of the worst trafficer pedophiles. I've ever seen and they picked this guy. up and this little boy about five years. old and he says will you save my sister. and that is a question it's like a mark. on his heart and he couldn't and he it's. like the Bible where Jesus says the.

Kingdom of Heaven it's like a pearl he. would sell everything do anything to. attain this that's what he did he went. down to Columbia sold his house to had. the money what he had out and he was 10. days of getting his pension and he goes. down to Columbia to find this little. girl so it's like that's what that's. what Tim did yeah that's what he did I. had no idea that's incredible yeah so. they the uh it it's taken the film but.

with a huge heart you. know so it's is the is the entire film. in Colombia yes well I mean we we shot. it Parts in the US and kxo at the border. okay. well let's talk about some facts sure. the go. into sex. trafficking it's considered a mod a.

modern form of uh slavery the United. States is the number one consumer and. producer of child abuse content the. Department of Homeland Security. estimates that child trafficking has an. annual Global profit of $150. billion human trafficking has already. passed the illegal arms trade and is. going to pass the drug the drug trade. about 2 million children are trafficked. every year worldwide H that's how.

seriousness is that's just a few that's. just the beginning of of it all I mean. the. trafficking it's first part to the. public you I've learned you get too far. in front of the narrative they they. don't believe you if you were talking. about trafficking around 29 when I was. doing Monte Cristo you never heard about. it. and it would be conspiracy theories do. you think this is getting bigger or do. you think that the information is just.

getting. out um do you think I guess what I'm. asking do you think it was always this I. think it's much bigger you think it's. growing well I think it's already bigger. than that I think it's much bigger. because I've talked to Tim about the. numbers from other guys and then gone. over to Tim and goes yeah I mean those. are those are good numbers and. everything but it's bigger than that. because it there's other forms of the. business this is just what we know yes.

on that part I mean it's um we've we've. been talked about 6 million um 2 million. at least are also involved in the organ. harvesting and all the other that. it that that's the stuff that it's just. beyond do you they're cattle these are. cattle it's like buying cows what do you. do with a cow you know you milk them you. do it but you also eat the meat and all. that other stuff and and it's it's far. worse than um people are willing to go. to but they listen it's not going to.

solve the problem by. people. um I was uh this is an analogy I was. a swimming in the ocean I got into. swimming and everything and um on the. Ridley Scot movie and I swam and it was. kind of freeing you know breaking the sh. and doing all that but just that that. when you you're you know I don't know. how many hundreds of feet down or how.

deep you are some great white shark. looking at you and going is that a seal. what a and I say God please please tell. them I'm a human then or something they. shouldn't mess with but anyway I just it. and and I I would pray in the water you. know just is um it and of course the. common sense ing me is like you know you. have a better chance of going down an. airliner but anyway uh I went out and.

was filming South Africa and I got to. dive uh great whites it was fascinating. and every time um they we we Chum the. water and then we'd throw a tuna head. out and the Great White would come by he. never just munched it ever never not. once they always. bumped and so I I guarantee you that if. you were in the water and you got bumped. by a great white he the guy said to me.

what do you think they're doing he says. they have a little brain yours is bigger. than theirs you have to be smarter than. them and he say yeah but I said they you. know some of these fish they're like. whales are like two tons and he says do. you think they went to school in the. morning mate do you think they sit there. and said you weigh 4,000 lb he's only a. you know 200 lb no you you have to be. smarter than them so what do you do if a. great white bumps you and I said well. I'd be scared and I would swim to shore.

on he says you know how fast they can. swim in the water he says 40 m an hour. so the fastest swimmer in the world can. out outswim this so that's the smart guy. now he's actually the dumb guy and when. you splash splash splash you are saying. come eat me it's exciting him he he's. saying he said oh your food okay it's. not the personal yeah you know but he's. going to have to eat you so if you.

program it in your brain that you're. swimming and you think about it a lot. what would you do and he bumped you if. you immediately attacked him cuz it's. only an instant that he bumps you and. you scratch his eyeball or grab his Gill. he's gone doesn't want to mess with you. because pre this these sharks these. great whites in the womb there it's if. there's seven babies in there the winner. is the one that eats every all of them. that's how they're born that's how they.

are fed in the womb then they're born. and they come out fighting and so they. know they if they don't know what you. are they're going to bump you to see. what what you do so think of that when. it comes to children all right you're. you have four children it's Fourth of. July you're sitting outside there and. you you don't want to know about all the. bad things that are going on your. child's taken you're never going to see. that child again now go to that mother.

and father and ask him would you have. wished you had some sort of plan that. could have prevented that from happening. they're going to say yes but they won't. they won't do it and if you just looked. around the film is powerful because when. you watch it you learn oh these are the. warning signs this is how routinely it. occurs this is what they're looking for. then when you're.

looking and that's what I talked about. earlier God here it's like Michael the. Archangel you're with you and you're. you're a stalker you're you're a. predator you're letting them know you'll. go after them and they don't want. anything to do with you so the great. white walks away no more trouble no more. why people don't do this I don't I don't. understand but this is not the the Bible. that I know that I read we have to.

weaponize ourselves from God's shield. and his protection and stop being afraid. of the devil do you know more Christians. these monay Christians are more afraid. of the devil than they are of God let me. explain God could kill the Devil Without. a glance the devil has no chance against. God this isn't it you know God here and. the devil here Jesus here and the devil. here it's this it's more like here's a. creature devil here's a creature human.

what what are we I'm I'm going to ask. Almighty to come into me and to not be. afraid we talked about it earlier Jesus. in scripture 365 times one time every. day in the Bible sayso not be. afraid. there's a reoccurring theme here and. it's overcoming fear from from talking. to you about your childhood doing the.

passion doing this now great whites now. the Bible. um we talked you you'd brought up organ. harvesting. and that's something I wasn't uh I. didn't realize that we were going to get. into that is that in the film do we talk. about that in the film no no it doesn't. go into that okay we don't we don't we. don't go into that okay we go into the. trafficking part of it it's the going.

into what I had to look at to get to. where I needed to go so I have many. agents that I've worked in 30 years my. career that trust me that have worked. with me and when I was reading the. script I wanted to know about Tim. Ballard how is all of this true yes okay. so then working with people that um.

could give me information that can make. this. screenplay a lot deeper and going. through that is where I got in some it. was beyond beyond how bad this really is. so you really wanted to understand every. aspect of what's going on before I did. movie called frequency and got to see. things I couldn't believe you know just. the seeing a person that's dead and how.

they die and what it looks like it's. fascinating and then how jaded these. guys are when they stick Ben Gay in. their noses and go into a room and you. can taste stench I mean you can taste it. I worked on a farm on. and Hanford. California uh and you know I my job was.

to get to cattle in the shoots the Vets. would you know put these vaccinations in. them and every now and then uh one of. these big heers would die so we'd tie. wire around their hoes and you know um. dragg them out and um it was so hot when. we went back. um the next day the stench was beyond. anything now you put human beings in.

there and so like okay so when I go and. do a a. film. um you and you playing these guys you. get to see what they're like you get to. see how they talk and one guy's eating a. sandwich while that stenches in the room. and doesn't even bug him you know one of. my buddies was pulling a um something. out of a river and it was just horrid. and he's eating a bagel with cream.

cheese in it his. locks he's just you know he's like are. you kidding me you're eating right now. he goes I'm. hungry but that that's so important cuz. you can't that that's stuff that you got. to put in this in this screenplay you. know that that has to be there and and. you kind of understand who they are. where they've been and everything and I.

always I go to mass and I pray and. everything and I'm always looking at a. corpus on a cross and eventually you. know my life I'm going to unlike you I. know I'm going to die. someday but we all are going to die. right so you know I it it it I wanted. the people to have the most real. experience that they could have on the. screen to a certain point you know and. then the other balance is when you walk. out of this film your heart's on fire.

this thing is unbelievable it's an. incredible movie so I we we can't show. you all that stuff that I've seen but I. can take you right to the edge Alfred. Hitchcock and to understand how real it. is one of the big things I was going. through is Tim couldn't keep any of. these agents for long because it was so. bad of of with kids and. so um there's a scene in there um so the.

stuff that I did get. to see that made me weep um I started. thinking about that and so what we did. and for those of you who are going to. see this movie and don't want to know. about this part then shut your C you. know tell them mhm but. uh we were shooting this and I had this. idea where we we took the camera and.

this particular scene you don't see it. but this video this man goes over and. rapes this little girl and how. old. seven um and you don't see it in the. film but you see him start to make the. move and then I asked the DP not to tell. Alejandra the director this but um I. asked him shoot so I took the video.

monitor and moved it into my eyeball so. you could see my Iris so the eye eyeball. is you know 20 ft in a movie theater and. you see it start to sweat and you see. you don't know you can't quite make out. what's going on and then the eyeball um. from what I'd seen. and the screaming is the hardest thing. the sound of it this that is so the.

sound of Freedom there's a sound that. you hear from these little ones that is. so. horrific that you will never forget it. and for two. years I could. never forget it I had a friend of mine. that came to my house and she in the. morning she's weeping and she came over. her Debbie she was hugging me why I said. what's wrong you were balling I don't. really what was I doing so I've been.

sleeping and I go to this dark. place um and I my body had to process. this out in my dreams and a lot of them. I don't. remember um but I I had to pray. deeply but the it motivated me to want. to get get these sons of and. this is where I say it's the only. unforgivable sin and they don't deserve.

to live any longer what they've done um. Jesus says better a millstone be hung. around their necks that they be cast. into the sea that you should ever hurt. one of these little one these little. ones. so the. film is fantastic that way it's powerful. it's uh um no Studio can make this film. this is um the movie they don't want you.

to see and especially the devil doesn't. want you to see this but. um um when you are done people don't get. up from the theater they sit like they. did in the passion like they did in. Schindler's. List you cry. you're going to laugh you're going to do. all this stuff but there's a huge. Adventure be on the edge of your seat. but eventually um you know when enough.

people walk out of this they're going to. start looking at wait a. minute this Miss rhos on April 26 gave. testimony sworn testimony that 85,000. children disappeared across the border. just disappeared where did they go. and then you start wondering wait a. minute you know fool me once shame on. you fool me twice shame on me public is.

now going hey three-letter. agencies what do you really know about. what's going on here and I think most. Americans are waking up to the fact they. know what the hell is going. on how long did you immerse yourself in. in that environment to understand what. it. understand how profound this problem is. one day it only took one day no on that.

on that part one day uh not even that. just I couldn't take it but I had to to. understand what he was going through and. I didn't know it was going to go there. it was more like are you sure you want. to go further than. this. and I saw this movie a long time ago. called Silent. Scream they were saying the baby in the. womb screams when they tear it apart.

they pull it. out. um that was hard to watch and from from. that point on I was always pro-life. after seeing that but the difference is. on the outside you get to hear him. scream and that the only way to combat. that is to get them and so my weapon is. acting my weapon is film and I can use. that and be the voice in that film.

through Tim and from God coming in and. it's a most important film since The. Passion of the Christ these are films. that'll never be forgotten I remember. when Tim came down and asked me how it. was going and I said we have lightning. in a. bottle well you think it's going to come. out. no it's taken us several years to get. this thing out um and the devil didn't.

want this one. out but um too late. now what kind of deterrence did you. encounter during this. film it was it was like um. I had a friend of mine that survived.

um immacula AA she survived Rwanda she. said. for for 12 weeks she was living in a a. bathroom and they killed over a million. people in a short period of time I. wouldn't say it's that but before Rwanda. occurred there would she said it was. like an evil uh like Christmas in. Reverse for those 12 weeks in Rwanda. when that was going on.

and so prior to that before the Day of. Reckoning it was when you would go down. the street and you would hear them. saying you know they come up to you so. if you're Mexico they would say do you. want Nas ninos you know you want or. sorry you want mues women and the cigars. would have try to find but when they. when you go down to Columbia they would. be like you want moies. women C and then they would say you want.

Nas little boys little. girls so you got to see like. that and then when they were doing the. film they were running operations down. there while we were there um Tim also. there's a gal the the villain in the. film she's actually very a real. character she uh was out of prison at. that time and so you got pressure from.

the people to arrest and then the ones. on the inside and I'm sure. from the. world uh that is involved in this um. because I think it's I think it goes all. the way to um Planned. Parenthood the jugs of plastic. containers they use their children I. think those go to the bio biolabs and I. I don't say I I should say that I know.

they do that they send them to places. like that all over the. world these. biolabs I think it's much this is part. of the whole business what do they do. with them in the biolabs when they. receive them well. um either making the adrin of. Chrome or they're using it. to um from what I was. told um is is that and also for making.

agents to you know kill people with it. so you know if you're if I'm a half. Irish half. Swiss they can get my DNA code and. create a a. cocktail put it off in an airplane and. I'm the only one that dies of a heart. attack in the plane. and then you watch a James Bond movie. you go Bo that's really. weird so.

wow but again I'm here. that we don't go into that in the film. the film is. phenomenal I probably just chased away. millions of people from wanting to watch. this movie no you did the the. film. um. the film is like It's a Wonderful Life. what this is about what and how yeah I. know what does this have to do with the.

T in. China it. is if you weren't around Tim. Ballard none of these children are going. to. live and as hard as it has been for him. he was willing to take it in my heart. for. Jesus and King David when David was a. boy same thing and and I was same. thing.

and God doesn't make. junk but he can use things that you've. been through in your. past. um um and and and he can take you to a. level. that it's It's Supernatural just it just. no way to explain it is I was the best I. ever was on that movie cuz I was.

unafraid and uh and that love is the. greatest in its form highest form is the. best you'll ever be if you get to that. place that you give your life for for. and I give my life for these. kids that's what it. did. we're not chasing anybody away with this. audience we we spoke about I just did an. episode with this guy Ryan Montgomery.

he's an ethical hacker and he's he's. unveiling he's he weighs about 85 lbs. and he's going after these guys uh by. himself now he's moving into other. organizations and and it was the fastest. growing episode that I've ever had and. um and that's saying a lot cuz we've had. some really big ones and this kid came. out of nowhere he's. got how do I say this he doesn't have a. lot of clout around him nobody's ever.

heard of him and it just went sparked. the interest of everybody and um with. this. film do. you do you think this film is going. to bring truth but also. educate kids parents on how this is. happening where it starts. and put the fear into people into. pedopiles and predators that are.

targeting these. children I don't know I was reading this. thing and I I would absolutely say it's. the 100% the truth they will never be. able to walk down the street. again that's coming. without a doubt and it will be a great. day it needs to be this needs to be done. this is the the worst time in the.

history of all Humanity right now we're. living in you know when you read. Biblical times we're 8 and a half. billion people on this. Earth Biblical times not that many. people but when you read Moses they. killed the babies during the time of. Jesus Herod they killed the babies they. tried to annihilate him it's the same. thing same. devil and this is going to. end um I I know it.

but whether I. live that I would give my life to make. this. end and that's where I'm completely. connected to Tim in this. role and. King David or David it's the. 16-year-old. um and that you.

know God. could come to us and you know be from. small towns and just say you know all. you got to do is cry out to God and ask. him what's my purpose in this life and. certainly it can't be one of being. afraid and and to trust Jesus that he's. got you man um you know I know that a.

lot of people out there right now. have. um recently had to my dear friends who. committed. suicide and a lot of people um want to. know you know if God loves them or not. uh I I heard this a long time ago and it. goes your name may not appear down here. in this world's Hall of Fame in fact you. may be so unknown that no one knows your.

name the Oscars and the praise of men. may never come your way but don't forget. God has rewards he'll hand out someday. this crowd on Earth they will soon. forget when you're not at the top. they'll cheer like mad until you fallen. and their praise will stop not God he. never does forget and in his Hall of. Fame by just Believing on his son. forever there's your name I tell you. friend I wouldn't trade my name however. small it's written there beyond the. stars in that Celestial hall for all the.

famous names on Earth or the glory that. they share I'd rather be an unknown here. and have my name up. there thank you for saying. that when is this coming out for the. why we'll link everything below. um it's a heavy.

topic you know the things we talked. about can all be. verified so all you fact Checkers out. there you know you these fact Checkers. and you go to college for that get a. master's degree in fact checking you. know don't public stop falling for this. fact checking stuff they need to meet my. fact. checkers one of them you. know and we mentioned him earlier he'll.

verify all the stuff that I've told. you um. so those those guys they should be. terrified of those guys fact checking's. turned into suppression yes it is. bingo do you think you'll continue. this fight with the children after this. film's released oh I'll never stop. because my own children my own adopted.

children I was very well of the dangers. and the pains I've gone through I on a. global scale just through the adoption. agencies and. everything you know this is a you have. to verify people when they when they. come in and you know oh we uh help save. children a lot of these guys are honey. Potters they come in and they and they. uh um sorry uh they they're wolves and. sheep.

clothing so um and they're not there to. save the children they're there to take. the children make money off. them I think we need to get Tim pallard. in here Tim as well what's next for you. Jim I know you have Resurrection. Resurrection I would think so or um. sound of Freedom too but as far as the. the industry you know it's it's it's a. different thing now because you know if. you want to win an Academy Award you.

know you have to have an l a g a b a t a. q plus plus something and that's just. it's it's in it's insane some of the. greatest films of all time would never. qualify for the Academy. anymore well I think the clout of all. those Awards is. uh is uh diminish diminishing very. rapidly yes amongst the public and we're.

we're seeing that it's coming out people. are I mean look at buddy light man I. used to drink that all the time I I'll. drink regular water my or my own piss. before I touch. that good for. you the resurrection. yeah when does that start has it. started yeah oh the writing yes um I.

know I I asked him would you be willing. ready to go in January he said yeah. maybe it's how about the end of the Fall. he goes yeah maybe September he said. yeah. maybe that is so funny cuz last time he. did that he I said okay won't be till. January and then all of a sudden I get. the call hey you. ready and we went we went in September.

October so who knows um I know he's. working on that right now he's doing a. movie with. Walbert um so he's finishing that but. he's been on this for a long long time. and. then that will be the biggest film in. history it might be two films could be. three but I think it's. two I can't wait I cannot wait for that. and and then you have another project.

coming out as well um sounds like it's. up going to be a four part doy series if. I'm. correct that that's Tim's they haven't. come to me for that yet okay. yeah but. um there'll be they wrote this second. sound of freedom and that's even better. better script than this the first the. first is pretty darn good so there's. that um can I ask what that's about the.

second one yes Haiti it's about Haiti. Y is that why is Haiti specifically. because he went down there and did that. operation down there so it's just like. it's not so much sound of Freedom. too okay it's just this is the next. mission that he did. okay okay so this is going to this is. going to keep going it if yeah well.

based on the success of this film the. people love it enough the demands there. that screenplay is there I mean it. always is the the the uh screenplay. everything at the level of it and then. that point. it's a lot of prayer and. these aren't easy I don't get the easy. ones yeah um. learning Aramaic.

is. um crazy hard how do you manage all. this personally I mean you're taking on. a lot of weight covering this type of or. or being a part of this type of a topic. with sex trafficking I have nowhere else. to go this where was I go back to the. movie theater was like this is take the. ones I give you. okay you know um but I didn't.

know uh I didn't know I could do this I. I just believe in him before I even. believe in myself I believe in him and. if he says I can do it I know I can cuz. he says it it's a difference. between actors that I work with that are. [Music]. phenomenal they think the talent came. from them mine came from God now I'll. boast in my talent from God any day I'm. not afraid of any actor in the world um.

but again it's keeps me simple uh and. just you know keeps me away from um. getting too hotti totty. and um and just being ready you know. to humility is a great Mother Teresa. said. humility uh comes from. humiliation so want to get humiliated.

and now the last two years on the jrum. was quite. humiliating but um I knew one day the. truth would is coming and it's coming so. you know. and as I said I'm not the easiest EST. guy to love my wife will tell you that. but you know I am loved and I've got my. children that I love and they love me. you know so I've got a got a good thing.

there there are rumors out that you. and Mel. Gibson are going. to come together to expose some of the. stuff that's going on in Hollywood. is there a truth to that not really okay. I. think I think what you're seeing right.

now. is um you know he did his part I'm doing. mine I'm glad you're doing it nobody. else is going. to thank you thank you well Jim I just. want to say it was a real real honor to. have you in here today and and I. appreciate the conversation and the time. and and most of. all thank you for being a good role.

model and somebody that kids can look up. to adults can look up to and find some. solid Direction can I say something to. your audience. absolutely. me. my commandment to you is this you love. one another as I have loved you so you.

love one another God love. you thank you. [Music]. amen. hey everybody I'm Shawn Ryan click here. to subscribe to the Shawn Ryan Show. YouTube channel for the hottest and most. compelling interviews that you will not.

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