Eli Crane & Tim Burchett - Two Things All Americans Want: Accountability and Transparency | SRS #140
Tim burett Eli cran no strangers of the. show welcome back we got a ton to cover. I'm not going to uh I'm not going to uh. do the typical introduction we've had. cuz you guys have already been on. multiple times so but um want to talk to. you about Trump assassination want to. talk to you about Tim you done a ton of. work with the Afghanistan stuff want to. talk about that and then um I think all.
three of us want to talk about some of. the government corruption uh in both. parties that's going on inside of. Congress and then um we'll see what we. get into after that I know you guys both. have time constraints but uh I just want. to say love you guys super happy to have. you back here in the studio to have this. conversation and uh lots of important. stuff happening in the in the country. right now and um so let's just get to. the bottom of some of it but.
but you know to kick it off Eli I know. you've done a lot. of work investigating went went on with. the with the first assassination uh. attempt on Trump's life and uh just. yesterday uh we had another attempt and. actually um before we dive into that you. guys both know we got a patreon um it's. what enables me to be here what you guys. enables you guys to be here they are top.
supporters and uh so I give them the. opportunity to ask a. question each interview this question is. from John. Phillips since we're on the. topic will anyone at Secret Service be. held accountable for the major snafu and. Trump's attempted. assassinations. plural I think it's. uh I think it's too early to tell yet I. think it's going to largely be based on.
whether or not Trump becomes president. or not I don't have any faith whatsoever. that with the people that we have in uh. Congress now um that anybody will be. held accountable I've just you know i'. I'm only a freshman but I've seen seen. the game enough to kind of see how it. see how it plays out um I I think if. president Trump gets back into office I. do think that there's a really good. chance that there will be accountability. but everything is so political up there. as you know I mean one of the and just.
on that topic I volunteered to be on the. uh assassination task force you know I. sent speaker Johnson a text saying hey. um I was a you know nsw sniper I think I. could bring value to this investigation. and I wasn't put on it now I get it you. were not put on it I was not put on it. why were you not who made that who made. that call well it's why would you not. have a former Navy.
sniper who's better than probably any of. the Secret Service snipers out there why. why why would they not have somebody. with that relevant of experience on the. topic inside Congress on the committee. so to be to to be uh as transparent as I. can be to my knowledge there's three. snipers in Congress myself Morgan. Latrell and Cory Mills not one of us was. put on that task force so you know you. start asking questions right there and.
then what who makes the determination. leadership always makes the. determination who's the leadership Mike. Johnson is the speaker of the house. right now so Mike Johnson doesn't want. the three most relevant individuals in. Congress to be on that committee so what. what I was told is that it you know he. had to please the the entirety of the. conference right because it was such a. big deal and so many people other than. myself volunteered to be on it you know. he had to make this group over here.
happy this group over here happy this. group over here happy so there's a part. of me because I work up there that. understands understands that but it it. because the selection of that committee. was political once you start going down. that rabbit hole you start asking. yourself okay so are the witnesses that. we call is that going to be political. too are the findings and what we release. to the American people is that going to. be political too and my answer to that. is most like yes and that's why a coup.
so this isn't about this isn't about. sorry to cut you off man I'm just I'm. pissed so this isn't about F uncovering. anything or or getting to the root issue. this is about jerking people off and and. making people happy that's Washington. yeah I would say that they still want to. they still want to you know do the. investigation and there are a lot of. people whether they were snipers or not. who want to get to the bottom of it my. point is is they didn't pick the best.
people for the job and they know it and. that that's what bothers me because. that's it doesn't stop there Sean who. did they put on the it every committee. that you look at up in Capitol Hill it's. not you know who's the best for the job. it's you know who has influence who has. money who can fund raise who's been here. longest and so you see a lot of the same. stuff in other committees as well and. and often the higher you go the more. you're willing to you know play the game.
and be a Yes Man and that's why often I. think you know people like myself are. given the Heisman and told hey no thanks. man we're good who's on the committee. who do they put on there so you you guys. actually have a representative um pretty. good representative here um in Tennessee. who's on the committee Mark green is on. the committee chair's Homeland Security. yeah Kay Higgins is on the committee who. I think is probably in my opinion.
you know the best guy on the committee. just because. clay clay is willing to um you know. Clay's tough and uh he was in law. enforcement and he was also in Military. and he's already gone and done his own. independent investigation he's already. released that to the public so I'm glad. that clay got put on there and I don't. know all the other names Tim do you know. the other. names are they are. they utilizing you and the two other. congressman's expertise no not not at.
this point but I don't think they've. even I don't even think they've had a. hearing yet so we did we did our own. parallel we called it a round table um. up in Washington DC a couple weeks ago. with Eric Prince uh Dan Bonino and then. one of the counter snipers who was there. because I don't know about you Sean but. I don't have a lot of faith in the. federal government to get to the bottom. of this and even if they did get to the. bottom of it I don't have a lot of faith.
that they would you know you know even. reveal it to the American people just. like we still don't have the Kennedy. files right and so that's why some of us. were like okay well we might not be on. the task force we might not have. subpoena power but let's do everything. that we can within our our contacts you. know and our intelligence you know to. get to you know to get as many answers. as we can for the American people did. you get any answers well we've we've. gotten some we've gotten some answers. one of the you know one of I I've.
actually been to Butler twice now one of. the things that I I did a video about. you probably saw it was one of the first. things that director cheetah was saying. was that we we didn't put counter. snipers up on that roof because it was. too steep so myself and other members. from the homeland security committee. went and got up on that roof and I. showed out you know we were walking. around on it right after me a. 70-year-old man um named Carlos Jimenez. who's a representative from Florida got. up on it walked right up it no problem. at all all you could see the water tower.
right over my shoulder that nobody got. up on top of that would have been a. snipers you know Paradise or a counter. snipers paradise and nobody got up on. that um one of the things that I broke. on uh with Dan Bonino on his podcast was. that these pipe bombs that we were told. uh Thomas Crooks had um were built in. ammo cans but you know some of the other. things that we've learned is that um and. I know you've talked about it as well. with Eric Prince but the Secret Service.
is completely incapable of you know. stopping a 20-year-old kid with no. military experience from getting 150. yards from the president what would that. look like with you know uh a trained you. know uh Team like you know whether it's. the houthis we had Iranian had. intelligence that said the Iranians were. whatever it is we had a hold on we had. we have intelligence that said that the. uh was it the Iranians that were that. had put a head out on on Trump just. prior to that there there is yeah there.
is intelligence that that's a that. that's a very big threat as well but. some of the other things that we've. learned Sean that's alarming is that the. Secret Service seems to be completely. allergic to innovating and adapting to. Modern Warfare right Dan Bonino was. talking about how when he was there it. took decades for them to even put slings. on their Primary Weapons. right yeah like their they primaries. their m4s or whatever whatever they were. carrying and anybody who's done whether.
you're a police officer or you've been. in Special Operations or you're you know. a marine you know that how important. slings are because if you if you're. shooting your primary and you go dry or. you have a jam and then you need to. transition to your secondary what are. you going to do with your primary you. going to throw it on the ground or what. if you have to climb a ladder right what. if you have to do some prisoner handling. you know what if you have to process. some evidence you know you can't just be. throwing your weapon on the ground and. so he was saying I mean the Secret.
Service was so backwards that it took. decades for them to even get slings he. also said that they didn't want to. transition to a higher caliber weapon um. like a like an an AR style platform um. that shot something that maybe some of. the threats were carrying right and so. you couple that with oh they didn't have. a drone up on site right they even. turned down a drone from some of the. local authorities and you just got to. wonder like why aren't they Forward.
Thinking at all you know because our. enemies most certainly are and he ALS. you know one of the other things that. we've learned is that the secret service. is absolutely not in a better place with. the new Director people are just like in. every other government institution. they're failing up right director roow. probably you know had a lot more say. over what security and what personnel. and what assets were at you know onsite. at Butler on that day than even director. cheel did and so you know you know.
there's been a lot that we've F we've. uncovered and we found but definitely. there's still a lot more to uncover and. you know for those of us on the outs. it's going to be difficult because we. don't have subpoena power and let's be. honest the answer to your question is no. and the other question you ask is why is. Eli uh not on there he Ruffles feathers. he votes his conscience you know we he. and I both voted against McCarthy and um. you know deposing him and that's that's.
what I think's at the bottom of it. that's the base of it you've got a. little leadership cabal that calls the. shots on everything and um how has there. not even been a hearing on it I don't. know that have they had a. hear they went there they went did they. go to Butler maybe I don't know they did. go to Butler yeah I mean it's Washington. you know they're going to it's just. going to turn it out and then 6 months. later they're going to issue a report. court and somebody's going to get a.
nasty letter in their file and it's just. it's complete Washington to this isn't. about daylight savings time they tried. to assassinate a former sitting. president who's running again yeah so. how how how does this just go well guys. we don't have time we don't have enough. sessions you got to realized the machine. doesn't they don't want Trump I mean if. he gets in there and he does what he. says he's going to do and starts. eliminating 2third of the bureaucracy. the machine the corrupt machine that you.
know they always come in and fire the. top people or replace the new people old. people but it's that second third fourth. tier that are in there for life that are. just that infiltrated our government. that we've we've allowed to be there. Department of Education billions of. dollars stays in. Washington it seems to me it'd be easier. just dismantle the whole department send. that money to the states and let them. decide and let the locals have a say so. but no you've got I mean how many. honestly how many bureaucrats in.
Washington DC have caught a taught a kid. how to how to read in clayber County. Tennessee y zero but that but that's. that's part of the machine that's part. of the structure and that's why every. hundred days we had another trillion. dollars for the debt and neither party. has a plan to pay it off and either. party wants to pay it off because all. they're doing is buying. boats so I got a maybe you can help me. and the audience understand who makes. the. determination of when these hearings.
happen who ultimately it's the speaker. who makes it and you the speaker and. they'll appoint a chairman and the. chairman will will bring in the legal. folks and then that's part of the. problem because part of the problem is. the staff machine that's there you've. got great staffers that work but some of. those folks have been there years and. years and years and years and uh they. don't get in any rush they decide. literally what I mean I've had chairman. say I've heard chairman say before I. can't get that bill to the flooor.
because uh you know my my staffers don't. really like that bill like what what are. you talking about you know I've I had a. bill that dealt with um well for. instance the um the Chinese you know. these ancestry.com you know you take a. swab you send it off well they're buying. it creating a genome that the Chinese. are buying it legally from these. companies and they're selling it to them. and they create a genome for say say. they'd like to um come to uh imagine the.
Chinese creating a disease that could. you know disable the entire world but. say they wanted to just just take out. females of of childbearing Ages in. United States of America well they could. create a genome to do that and. apparently that's what they're. attempting to do I can't I can't even. get the Chinese I can't even get the I. couldn't even get a hearing on the bill. because the committee is just in total. shutdown and it's you know and that's. the way Washington works though they. want to have hearings they want to issue.
press releases but the bottom line in. Washington DC is get your ass reelected. it's not fixing the problem they go home. to their Maga dinners or their their. left does their Truman dinners and they. throw out the red mate how bad the. Republicans are how B Dem how bad. speaker Pelosi is how Bad Johnson is. they get reelected and they all come 98. 99% of them get reelected and Hell. they'll be right back doing the same. stuff just and that's part of the. problem.
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what are what what are the hearings cuz. I had a I had a meeting with McCall's. people too apparently they can't get. massud in cuz there's no time there's no. time to that's so what what is more.
you're rocking the boat Sean You're. Rocking The Boat my question is they did. agree to a 30 minute Zoom call yay um I. don't know what the that does. but. why what are the other hearings and. maybe maybe there is stuff that's way. more important than the fact the US. government sending the Taliban millions. of dollars 40 to 87 million every week I. mean we're literally do you know what.
what what the government would have done. if they if I would have done a $5. donation to the Taliban 10 years. ago Captain stff they just admitted $239. million went to them and it's a lot more. than that that was a lot more than that. so what what are the what are some of. the upcoming hearings in Congress that. are more important than the Trump. assassination attempts and the fact that. us government's funding terrorism. absolutely.
none none but that's that doesn't feed. the K Street. lobbyist and um and that in. turn seriously though what are some of. the subjects coming up on the p on the. plate I couldn't tell you it's uh I. couldn't even tell you could you I mean. every every week There's a hearing on. something you know you'll bring in I. call them Transportation we'll bring in. the railroad people if there's a. railroad derailing you it's not sexy but. it's the it's and and people get.
understand don't understand in. government that you know these. Committees of jurisdiction deal with. those issues and I do videos as soon as. I walk out of the committee and I tell. because people don't realize that all. that other stuff's going on all they see. is what's going C span what's going on. in the floor which is bogus that's. already been decided back in the back. rooms there's never really too many. surprises on votes um and it's just the. Committees of jurisdiction we'll have um. you know we when I ask the question on. the Afghanistan issue of the marine.
sniper I said do you have the the. suicide bomber in your sights that. killed the 13 Americans staff sergeant. Ryan Canal I live on the Ryan Canal. highway I every day I drive out there's. his name and yes in fact he had the guy. two times in his sights and we found. that out in and but what did we do with. it nothing cuz we don't have the guts to. go after anybody we can't you. anyway so it's nothing of any substance.
you're talking to the railroad people. well we develop legislation because of. that allegedly you know it goes along. that and then of course you got they. bring in the lobbyists from both sides. the Democrats they're in the major. minority so they get two and then we get. the Republicans could bring in three. Witnesses on our side you know and you. they like have a pro-union and then a. pro business side and and you and. nothing ever gets done though if you. pass legislation it goes to the Senate. and Schumer won't bring it up or vice.
versa and some of these some of these. hearings have been planned you know. months in advance but to your point I. don't I don't know that any of them are. as important as what you're talking. about none are as important I mean you. think they would cancel I don't know the. railroad meeting and bring in the fact. that they're you know trying to kill a. presidential candidate former president. tce you do you can still have them going. on or yeah I don't. know they're going to assign to it. they're going to assign staff to it and. probably h on a lawyer and they did they.
did have I think they did have what. cheet in was at Judiciary or oversight. no we we have an oversight that's where. I told her she was a Dei Nightmare and. then that was and she quit the day after. that so they hit that they they've. already hit that one but as far as this. new task force goes I'm hoping they're. just doing you know trying to do as in. thorough of an investigation as possible. and honestly Sean like even though I. didn't get put on the task force. whatever um you know I'm rooting for I'm.
rooting for him because at the end of. the day it's not about me it's not about. Cory Mills it's not about it's not about. any one of us it's about okay how do we. make sure that this never happens again. regardless of what the candidate is. right but what happened yesterday but. they didn't do that because it just. happened again what happened yesterday. we found out once again that you know. the Secret Service because president. Trump isn't the current president. they're not giving him you know the. detail that he needs right so they're. they're defaulting to historical Norms.
instead of actually looking at the. threat presence to this guy because he's. clearly the most targeted politician you. know Poss maybe besides Netanyahu in the. in the world right now and so it's like. if I was the secet director of Secret. Service I wouldn't be going off of you. know historical Norms or what we did. yesterday I'd be going off of hey who's. which one of these guys that I'm. assigned to protect has the most threats. that's who's going to get the you know. the majority of my assets and the.
majority of my attention and I'm going. to try and do as good of a job as I can. across the board but that's clearly not. happening and politics plays into it I. mean because Robert Kennedy Jr I mean. his dad was assassinated John I mean. there's no other family that's Fallen to. more assassins bullets than the. kennedies obviously I mean historically. in this country I'm sure there's. somewhere but he was denied Secret. Service by the president United States.
and they made up all this BS but Obama. was given when he was running was given. Secret Service protection early and that. was and it's it's at the discretion of. the president of the United States and. so so you've got to wonder and at at. where Trump got shot you know there. there was the talk of um Homeland. Security was there instead of Secret. Service you saw people um that were too. short and then you could they couldn't.
put their guns in their holsters and. they were hiding behind the pile and not. on as as somebody as as as somebody. who's trained what' you think when you. saw one of the Secret Service agents up. on you know on that detail That Couldn't. holster a weapon after like three. attempts yeah I mean I mean I don't. honestly I don't care I don't care what. the sex is man I really don't but at the. same time like does that look like. somebody who's well trained to you no no. and let me ask you guys this you you got.
these guys up there. uh that were obviously too short I mean. I you wouldn't have somebody in that the. iconic picture that should have never. have even been able to have happened. because the only way it was because. there was an agent or whoever it was was. Head and Shoulders short I mean they got. a specific job I mean it's to take it's. literally to take a bullet for Trump or. whoever they're guarding and they they. clearly failed at that and then that. frontal view was just awful I mean that.
was just to me I I was shocked that they. allowed that and then if you ever if you. can listen to the audio he says we're. going to move on on on my count 3 2 1. and they just stayed there you know the. thing would be to get him off if there. would have been a second shooter and all. you do is just start shooting into that. pile I would from what I've been told. that the job is to get his ass off the. stage yeah and get him get him out of. there in a get him in a secure. environment yeah I don't I don't know uh. you know.
I don't know what they're putting out at. secret service but it's against pretty. much from from everything I saw it's. completely against everything I've ever. learned in the SEAL Teams or the. agency's productive unit. so you know maybe there I and I know I. KN I know they play by different roles. cuz I've talked to other Secret Service. agents because of the political. ramifications of it like I've been told. that you know these advances can come. back with the recommendation that hey. let's not hold this rally here but even.
then it's up to the campaign so you know. if a campaign decides hey we're going to. hold a rally here regardless um you know. of what your recommendation was you know. they're going to hold the rally there. and so that was one of my issues when I. went to Butler and uh you know I was. looking at how many threats there were. on that site how many rooftops how many. windows how many trees right there were. a lot of trees that somebody could have. easily got gotten up into and made like. a like like a hid sight deer stand you.
know um and there were way too many. threats for the amount of security they. had to cover down on and so that's. another thing that we got to get smarter. on um man it seemed like a really basic. Target to me looking at it from the I. mean yeah you were there if you would. yeah but I mean comparative to like I. mean I remember being in the SEAL Teams. in 2004 there was big NATO convention in. distan buul and we did a ton of sniper. OverWatch at that at that uh at that. NATO convention and every I mean that.
was a nightmare right I mean you're. looking. at 15 20 story buildings with Windows on. every floor completely surrounding the. venue. and thousands of people way too many way. too many Avenues you know to cover with. the guns that you have in the ey we felt. like we had it covered and so you take. this which appeared like it was in a. rural setting you know mostly farmland I. mean a thermal imager could have covered.
those trees like you know what I mean. right in within five seconds yeah. and I mean you stuff just doesn't get. dropped it just it was impossible it. seemed impossible for no drones that's. what I about the golf course shooting. shouldn't there been a drone anytime. he's out in the open I would think. there'd be a drone mean I went to a. football game in Knoxville this past. I've been every week I've gone to a. football game they've had multiple. drones I mean it's just like they could.
you can see the part in my hair from up. there I mean you know and again we said. do we needed drones the first time and. then the second time there's still no. freaking drones out on the golf course. yeah well the other thing too Sean is. that when you my perspective in what I. what I know now and obviously this is a. fresh story because it just happened. yesterday but when I look at the. pictures of his hid sight you know if if. that's what it that or his final firing. position as we would call it um you know. one of the things I noticed based on.
this story that I'm hearing is that he. was spotted because he put the barrel of. his gun through the fence right behind. me you have a picture of a a a legit um. you know sniper team on a rooftop and it. looks like somebody blew a loophole or a. hole in the wall which you know most. snipers want to use they want to be as. far back from you know the actual hole. they're going to be shooting at and so I. was looking at it and like the Secret. Service in my opinion got lucky again.
because this guy wasn't trained I and I. could tell by if he was trained he would. have had a pair of $20 bolt cutters with. him he would have cut out his his. loophole or his uh line of sight through. that fence and then he would have pushed. back into the Shady leaves so that he. couldn't have you know been seen right. the other thing that I noticed was he. had his two Ballistic plates up on the. fence what is what is that create well. it's definitely not it's it it it stands.
out and one of the first things they. teach you in Sniper school is there are. no straight lines in nature right and so. you got if if a secret service agent is. just scanning a fence line and he sees a. bunch of you know leaves and then boom. he sees two like dark you know plate. looking things that have straight lines. it's going to catch his eye and so it. just showed me once again how lucky we. were that the guys right now that are. being you know that coming after the. president or being sent after the.
president don't have a lot of training. that's my next. question after everything that you've. dug into both of you. guys what was this is it lone wolves. coming after him or is this orchestrated. from who the left. yeah I honestly don't know yet um and. one of the one of the things that I. still want information on that I think. is going to definitely help answer that.
question is these bank accounts and. whether or not he did indeed have. offshore bank accounts with a lot of. money in them because based on you know. pattern of life and the type of job that. he had in the family that he came from. um you know I think he was just working. at a little little store um if he had if. he did have overseas bank accounts with. a good amount of cash in them that's. going to be a massive red flag you know. that he was working with somebody and so.
we don't know yet um but again without. subpoena power it's tough to get the. witnesses you know in there that you. know can answer. questions there's a thing called MK. Ultra it used to they used to say that's. you know it's bogus but it's it's a. reality it's been documented I think. there's been lawsuits because of it you. know they use psychotropic drugs and to. influence people and um and brainwashed. them and um I think it ended in the 60s.
maybe' 63 or something it was CIA. operation and uh they took people and. and just turned them into machines. basically apparent or tried to and of. course they said it didn't exist and. then they got popped and then they had. they were forced that to make that it. did exist and that to me that begs the. question is something like that still. going on because I don't trust them to. tell me the truth so many billions float. you know the Pentagon right now can't.
can't count for a half a billion dollars. in assets I mean what is that a. battleship yeah you know so we're um. we're washed with some with money to do. something with and there's some people. in this world in this government that. are that are pure evil but and on top of. that though Sean I do want to say to to. answer your question I do think that. there is you know at the very least I do. think uh um there was a desire to.
weaponize the mainstream media Outlets. to. radicalize American citizens against the. president I mean come on man you can. only call. somebody a threat you know a threat to. democracy or you know he he's like a. modern-day Hitler so many times before. somebody feels the moral obligation to. do something about it yeah magazine. cover of a national publication that has. a picture of H of Trump with a Hitler. mustache right you know it's just it.
just and this goes back to my point. about MK Ultra it maybe they're not. maybe they're not bringing in somebody. off the street and doing this too but. they know if they put enough of this. thought process out there there's. enough kids or Misfits or something that. are going to do something and this guy. though he's he's he's a North carolan. lanan lived in Hawaii. but comes down to Florida sits on a golf.
course and he's going to take out Trump. that how does that happen how does this. guy do this this guy's got all kinds of. these International connections he's. been busted before for federal firearms. violations and then they don't even. charge him with a attempted murder they. charge him with um possession of a of a. firearm of a felon and then um I think. altering the serial numbers on the gun. and so this is um this is what they've.
just charged him with apparently so and. then the reports that I got they haven't. even charged him with murder attempted. murder so you know again they haven't. even charged him with attempted murder. the last report I saw that could change. and you know I don't know jurisdictional. maybe they they can get more of a charge. out of a altered firearm Federal. violation I don't know but um and two. I've always said this Americans want. their pizzas in 30 minutes and that's.
about our dad gum attention span and. they you know we've already they won't. even talk about the first assassination. to him that's so people are allowed just. to joke about you know how it was fake. and you know he didn't hit his ear and. how does ear he heal so fast and all. this other stuff you know and and. they're allowed to talk about that and. joke about it now openly and so this one. uh you know my local newspaper in Knox. wasn't even apparently wasn't even in it. wasn't even on the front page of it this.
this morning so um which I don't take by. the way I don't take that paper but they. um uh you know they just want it gone. and move. on hey I do want to say something about. yesterday though and the sto the story. that's been put out there because I know. a lot of and I'm sure you're probably in. the same boat probably you two Tim a lot. of my best friends are in law. enforcement right and uh I just if the. story that I heard yesterday was correct.
that you know a secret service agent. spotted this guy with you know sticking. his weapon through the fence and then he. he was proactive and actually engaged. this guy um I want to give that guy. Kudos and props 100% you know because U. anybody who's ever had to like it's even. even overseas you know I know of. instances where guys were shot at and. they' never shot at anybody before and. so there was a pregnant pause and it.
took them a second to actually do what. they were training to do because um you. know they knew you know it was so new to. them and so it's it would be much. different if you have to do that on us. soil than like fuia or you know mou mou. or whatever it is and so I know that a. lot of people you know look at us going. after the Head Shed of the Secret. Service and because um that Institution. clearly needs a massive overhaul and it.
it you know I I just want to say that I. know there's a lot of awesome men and. women you know not only in the Secret. Service but in many of our other. institutions who were sick and tired of. seeing you know these institutions be. become political become biased and not. focused on what they're act actually. supposed to do and so I want to make. sure that that's said and clear that we. do appreciate you guys those of you out. there that are still trying to do a very. difficult job um and you know you can.
help us you guys can help us um you know. transform these organizations by. whistleblowing to us and I know it's not. comfortable and I know that you're. risking a lot than when you do it um and. I think you should be selective about. who you talk who you talk to but um I. just want to make sure that that's said. because here's here's a question for you. then yeah because a lot of people. probably don't know where to go to blow. the whistle so if they do have. information Secret Service FBI CIA.
whoever where do they go to blow the. whistle where do they go to get your. attention yeah they can so that they. know they will be heard and somebody has. their back yeah they can call they can. call my office um we also posted a tip. line on uh when we did that hearing up. in DC I don't remember the name of it. off the top of my head but if they if if. if they call my office um somebody on my. staff will will take down their. information um and if if they don't have.
the number to my office there's an app. called Bill Blaster and you can get. every single Senators every single. member of congress's information and. call them directly in their office. that's called Bill Blaster Bill Blaster. and it's a great you don't have to just. use it please don't just use it for that. like if you see a piece of legislation. coming up that you're fired up about or. you want us to vote a certain way on. please engage your member of Congress. because you'd be surprised Sean that. actually does work it doesn't work if.
five or 10 people do it but if a couple. thousand people do it and we walk into. our office from going from one Committee. hearing to the other and like Hey we're. getting blown up right now about this CR. with the save act or this fisa bill or. whatever it is and and then it's like. okay well what are people saying what. are you hearing you know there there are. members of Congress that listen to that. and for the ones that don't you can. apply enough pressure to where they'll. think twice about you know selling you. out if if you get loud enough and I.
would caution though on the whistleblow. just reiterate what Eli said be careful. who you talk to yeah and I would be. careful about leaving. messages and I would face to face it if. you get the. opportunity. um yeah I would think I'd just be. cautious I'm since I've been in. Washington. I've you I'm remember I always give the. example my wife and I were a buddy of in. the he trinket business you know.
whatever I don't know what you call it. swag and um we were talking about these. little solo red Solo cups had some made. out of aluminum and I just thought. that's the coolest thing in both of us. within 30 minutes what we have on our. phone ads for red Solo cups and I that's. not so much when you call in your. congressman's office but. I I I just think it there's ears and. eyes everywhere up there I just don't.
think uh I don't think we. we are scratching the. surface what would. you what kind of accountability would. you see would you like to see for. the attempts and who would be held. accountable yeah I'd like to see I would. like to see every Everybody in the ch a. command um that's got caught covering up.
anything to be fired I'd like to see you. know those that made decisions based on. where to put the counter snipers I'd. like to see them be you know held. accountable and that has very you know. accountability whether you're in the. military law enforcement that can be a a. myriad of different things depending on. the severity of it um you know I'd also. like to see um you know like whoever. made who I think you know those who made.
decisions based on one of the decisions. that was or pieces of guidance put out. was hey we're not going to send counter. snipers anywhere unless they can they. can drive there right decisions like. that um whoever made the decision. whoever made what does that even mean. we're not going to send counter snipers. un they can drive sounds like a. budgetary decision like we're not going. to pay for our counter snipers you know. and all their gear to get on a plane and. fly somewhere. right if you can if we can if they can. drive somewhere to a location then we'll.
send a counter sniper team right whoever. was denying you know whoever made the. decision to deny president Trump and his. team you know the extra assets that they. were asking for needs to be held. accountable right and I think if I think. if you you know if you started um. holding those at the top accountable I. think it would send a trick a trickle. down warning and effect to the rest of. the Sur. that hey the you know the games that.
have been going on here the polit you. know the political games that have been. going on here for the last couple. decades they're done they're over you. know our mission is to protect these. Executives these individuals that's what. our primary responsibility is going to. be and if if you don't do it you're gone. you're gone period Point Blank and so. but what keeps happening the same thing. that keeps happening in every other. major Institution within the federal. government people just keep failing.
up I just add one thing very specific. though is if it was a leak of how this. latest sniper knew to be where he. was oh for sure that that that guy's who. who whoever leaked that needs to go. needs to go to prison I mean and that's. they'll be covering their ass I mean. it's just a that's why I say you just. never you'll. you'll never know we will never know and.
the only person knew on the first. shooting you know I got his head split. open rightfully so but. still what do you think he needs to. watch out for moving. forward well I think he I think he needs. to be very careful about where he holds. holds his rallies I think that's that's. a big thing obviously you know risk. mitigation needs to be a fact. and just I've gone to rallies in Arizona.
you know out in rural country where it. wasn't at a Arena or a sports complex. whereas I'm driving up to it I'm looking. at you know rock piles here this little. Hill over there and you know the deal. when you're training this stuff you know. you always think you. know you always think and and and this. might sound alarming to people but you. always think if I was going to do this. job how would I do it right and you. start thinking that way and I think. that's why the guidance that Eric Prince.
put out on your podcast why you need to. send some Shooters in on the advanced. teams and not necessarily law. enforcement guys who tend to be rear. rearward looking is so important because. if you start sending hitters in there. and Shooters that's how we think how. would I do this job where would I be um. and then you work backwards from there. to start putting deterrence in place to. where those spots you know those.
strategies that I would use um um aren't. aren't going to work because of the. deterrence that I put in place now let. me ask you two. something um you know my. dad the Pacific Marine Corps combat. nothing like you guys of course but it. was his War World War II against the. Japanese and he used to tell me and the. media's been critical me saying this but. he told me this he said look buddy he. said if somebody's willing to lose their. life to take you out there's not a whole. heck of a lot you can do I mean you got.
to stop them out there and if you get a. suicide situation or somebody's not a. you know how how would you protect him. in a in an open situation I mean you've. got the bomb dogs you've got this but. you know they took they took down the. World Trade Center basically with a. couple allegedly with a couple of box. cutters that somebody had snuck in the. plane I mean how do you do you you know. I I would just think You' you'd have to. isolate the president so far back and. have so many bodies between him that.
knew you know the yeah the other a new. mindset that Eli's been talking about. what what how do you stop that the other. thing I'd do is I would bring in some. private guys just so I had you know just. so I was covering my basis and I had. guys that were. more um loyal to me than they were to an. organization that might or might not be. you know corrupted a second set of eyes. to fact check and look at just you know.
look at everything that they're doing. and with a with a a mandate to report. back to me if they see anything that's. shady any practices that you know are. obsolete or you know not productive and. you know that's that's what I'd do if I. were him i' I'd start bringing in some. private guys to augment what's already. being going down and not only for the ex. ra presence and deterrence but also so. they could report to me that's you know.
I mean how do you do how do you defend. against that this is how you defend. against it I mean you have to have a lot. of observers but there's always signs. that you're looking for when it comes to. suicide bombers so peruse sweating are. they dressed different than everybody. else because they're hiding a vest right. um are they acted nervous are they. acting anxious I mean all these type of. things are things that you would look. for as an observer to see. see who's out there are they interacting. with other people it's not somebody that.
currently thinks the way we think though. I mean you got have some made things. like y'all do and and on that note Sean. if if if if he were to do that and bring. in you know private guys to augment and. let's just say the Secret Service you. know still hasn't gotten with it and. they don't want to fly a drone well. that's fine we're going to fly we're. going to fly a drone or you don't you. guys aren't using thermals well we're. going to use thermals or you guys aren't. taking the radio you know we're going to. take the radio and that just just a. bunch of things like that even you know.
whether it's a four-man team you know. what whatever it is I mean it can't it. can't hurt yeah and then and then the. other thing is you know allowing bags. purses things like that and that way if. they do have some type of a vest or or. suicide bomb then it has to be on their. person and right and you know what I. mean so that that's how you would do it. it's fairly Fair simple to be honest. with it well they actually spotted the. guy in Afghanistan twice so they weren't.
allowed to take him out yeah yeah you. know I mean I don't think anybody. has I guess I can't say anybody but. seems like confidence in the federal. government is just diminishing it in. very rapid Pace I saw Des santis is. starting his own investigation good uh I. just wonder how far he's going to get. with that because of the egos his. Federal governments allowing him to move. move forward you know having access to. that so they could shut him down I think.
so I think they'll just shut him down. because of I mean you used to see that a. lot within um in a the agencies CIA FBI. Secret Service they would there was. always feuds between them you know that. wouldn't allow I mean you saw under. Obama's administration some guy. literally scaled the fence of the White. House and they caught him inside the. freaking White House you know and there. was some sort of bridge breach and. security obviously but there was some. miscommunication there and and I don't.
know if that was an instance for that I. mean you had a instance at Oakridge. National Laboratory where a a group of. nuns climbed over the fence and were. painting a wall inside of a secure. nuclear facility type situation nobody. ever explained that somebody went to. jail for it but you know there's just I. just don't think there's a seamless it's. not seamless between the agencies what's. seamless but I think the good thing. about it is when I saw that headline I.
was glad to hear it because I think. often which even that DeSantis is going. to have yeah oh yeah independent. investigation I think often times if if. an. agency like the FBI knows that you know. Ronda santis is going to fire up a. separate parallel investigation even the. pressure of that and the pride of hey if. these guys find something and you know. expose it to the American people that. you guys didn't or you wouldn't I think.
that creates pressure right there. because it it'll make it'll it'll make. put egg on their face and make them look. bad and that's something they definitely. don't want so that's why that's why I. like that one of the reasons I like that. they're doing that I mean sitting in. Congress do you guys do you guys see. the the opposition or whatever you want. to call it the left the Democrat side is. anybody concerned about this at all. I think that I think that there is a.
little bit of concern and I think uh I. don't I don't think it's I I think. definitely a part of them wants it to be. uh memory hold. because um of the fact that they called. Trump Hitler and they called Trump a. threat to democracy so much and so they. know there's a possibility that they own. a little bit of that but they're also. also elected officials and so they. you know some of them see the. correlation well if if this could happen.
to the former president it could happen. to me too and so I I do see a little bit. of concern there as well um because. there're there are radical whack you. know wacky people on both sides of the. aisle right they they get death threats. just like we get death threats and so I. do I do believe that there is some. concern there but I also believe that a. lot of them would like to see this. memory hold because of uh I mean after. it happened and Trump survived and had.
his historic fight fight fight you know. moment um I think that really uh opened. a lot of people's eyes um cuz like let's. not forget I mean they tried to impeach. this guy they tried to bankrupt this guy. then they were trying to throw him in. jail for 750 years what's the. progression there we all knew what it I. mean they silenced a sitting president. yeah you. two two guys you know and I used to I I.
told people out on the campaign Trail. you know and and people around me don't. be surprised if you know they they take. a shot at this guy I know Steve Bannon. publicly said they were going to try and. kill him I know Dan Bonino said they. better go after him again they're going. to go after and he said it the before. they went after him the first time and. he said in our hearing he said if you. think this is the last time this is. going to happen you're crazy right and. so um I I I think people realized that. that was the the progression and the the.
track that we were on right and so I. think that the the media and the. Democrats know that they have ownership. in that just because of how radical they. got with you know the uh messaging they. were putting out I mean if it was aone. if it was just Lone Wolf both times. um you know just the fact that that the. first guy was 20 years old I mean we've. seen 8 n years a year before he got. elected it kind of started right 9 years.
of having that push down your throat so. that guy was what 11 years old since he. was 11 years old that's all he's heard. from the media yeah and so I grew up. listening to that but it's always a lone. wolf until we find out later that it. wasn't yeah always every one of them. every one of our. national James R Reay I mean here's a. guy guy that didn't have a pot to pee in. ended up catching he drove his brand new.
they found his brand new Mustang at the. airport I think and then they caught him. in London England making a crazy shot. off of commode in a bathtub through. sideways and you got um. Saran what was the guy kill Bobby. Kennedy Saran Saran whatever his name is. you know he was a lone nut and then um. Oswald lone. nut and then but you always there's. always the peripheral that you find out.
about them later and that's that's. exactly what we find out now that's when. nobody trusts the government Kennedy. killed 60 I just turned 60 two weeks ago. and um he got shot before my birthday. and they're still hiding it they still. won't release the stuff yeah yeah what. do you guys think about the fact that. um. RFK will have pretty much sounds like. free reign to investigate all of the. former assassinations and attempts what.
do you think is going to come out of. that I don't know but I I love it I love. the fact that they're bring that Trump. is willing to bring in people even that. he ran against who have the courage to. speak out against you know the power. Elites in this country bring them on the. team and you know whether it's Elon Musk. RFK and you know let him go to work cuz. obviously we have we have a ton of. unpacking we have a ton of house.
cleaning to do and you're going to need. people with that level of courage and. strength I mean shit's going to come out. if he gets if Trump gets in there and. RFK gets access to this there's going to. be some [ __ ] that comes out what does. that look like what does it look like I. think it if the American people find out. that the government is the one who. orchestrated all these assassinations. and assassination attempts what what. does that look like in daily. life I honestly I honestly don't know.
but I do know this if we're going to. turn this country around and I think. that's you know that's what we all want. it's got to happen right we can't we. can't keep having a government that's. supposed to represent the people working. against the people um and trying to you. know take out and silence political. opposition and the people themselves and. so it's it's got to H it's got to happen. so it could get really really ugly um.
obviously at the at the bare minimum. you're going to see um trust that. already is really not there plummet even. more um but it it could get worse than. that what do you think Tim I welcome it. I think you're going to have to tear it. down to build it back up because these. agencies have a history of this and they. have a track record I mean we you know. we talk about the UFO stuff all day long. but these assassinations are just you.
know the the way they they put them. together. and the gun that shot allegedly shot. John Ed Kennedy was a man Laker it. Italian carbin it was written up as a a. gun that never won a war he could gone. into a Western Auto and bought something. of much much more precise and you know. every one of these is just it it's just. too much and I think it it I think it. needs to happen we need a cleaning and.
it should have happened years ago and I. think it's also going to put people more. people's trust in Trump because on both. sides people don't trust the government. for good reason I think that could be a. unifying Factor well I think I think so. too I mean who who doesn't want to know. what happened to. JFK but where I'm going is if the. government is involved let's say. everybody thinks it's CIA right let's.
say that the CIA is 100% behind any one. of those or all of them what's the next. step well the people that did it are. dead but the channels are still there. the thought process is still there that. allows that to occur it allows them to. step outside the. Constitution and murder somebody and so. I think. that that needs to occur occur before we. have a a cleansing does the organization. get dismantled I think it could it's.
going to reemerge as something else I. mean if it has a vital need then yeah it. should reemerge but if it doesn't then. it should be it should be taken down we. didn't have an EPA and I think Nixon. brought the EPA in marinal Protection. Agency so it's a um Reagan one of the. Republicans did I'm sorry I'm losing my. Chain of Thought but yeah um I think it. should it'll be tough Sean I. mean it's like a lot of these things um.
it a lot of it's going to depend to me. on on the people of this country and. whether or not they pay attention and. they engage on it right like we were. talking at. breakfast about you know just the. primary votes that we just had right. only a little over 30% of people turned. out to vote in our primary election I. was talking to my friend Cory Mills he's. also been investigating this uh um. assassination attempt with myself and.
others and uh he said in his district it. was 19% of people and so we love and I'm. as guilty as anybody at pointing the. finger at politicians but a lot of it is. going to have to do with what they want. and what how they rise to the occasion. because if you keep seeing numbers like. that nothing's going to change and so a. lot of it like you can fire they can. fire me and Tim every two years if they. think we're doing a horrible job right. every two years you can get rid of me.
right but because people don't pay. attention because they're complacent and. because we've had it so good here for so. long you know there people of this. country are pretty complacent they're. pretty checked out and they don't really. pay attention and so I think that's what. it's really going to hinge on is how. fired up they get you know if in a. hypothetical that this stuff comes out. you know I think it's going to hinge on. them if they if they pay attention if. they coales together and if they demand. change because if we see the same if we.
see the same you know pathetic turnout. that that we see all the time and just a. bunch of people that want to talk about. it but not be about it nothing's going. to change yeah I'm with him I. mean like there's millions of there's. millions of Christians that won't vote. right now they won't vote there's. there's hundreds of thousands of. outdoorsmen that won't vote there's. there's demographics that would usually.
you know identify with in the in the. two-party system you know with with with. the Republican side of things that just. don't participate and they don't vote. and they have their own reasons for it. you know but to my point you know we can. sit here and you know and let's do I'm. all about it let's do it let's blame. politicians but who keeps sending those. politicians in washhington I'm with you. there's the old saying Congress has a. 10% approval rating and a 90% reelection.
rate Y and that is lazy [ __ ] citizens. that can't get off their ass just like. when you tried when you were doing that. when you were doing that survey did you. got frustrated didn't you I did and then. we got yep I think we're getting close. to 350,000 signatures now thankfully you. stayed after it go ahead to yeah I was. going to say when we um my campaign. manager Thomas mcky and I we go out. knock on doors and we use a register. boat. list and U you go by a house that's got.
the don't tread on me I'm proud American. or a trump flag I said pull up that why. aren't we stopping there and he'll pull. up the list he'll double check it and. triple check it ain't nobody there. registered to. vote you know and you you'll see these. guys riding down the interstate with a. American flag on which I think is kind. of disrespectful on the back of their. pickup truck flapping around all. tattered and you'll pull say hey where. do you vote. I don't know hell they don't even vote. and that's you know that's the mentality.
and the left understands that and. they've got these college campuses. feeding into this and you know they've. got this life this life supply of. lifetime supply of Voters they just. regenerate them every year and we are. very shortsighted on the conservative. side very shortsighted and we're going. to as my dad would say I'm afraid we're. going to get what we deserve yeah I. think. uh talk is cheap man talk is cheap and.
there's a lot of talk but let's move. into let's move into Afghanistan and the. you. know it I'm starting to feel like I'm. beating a dead horse here but I mean. it's important to me we're we I mean we. fought these people for over 20. years I don't know how many lives were. lost I don't know how much money was. spent how much equipment we I mean and.
and now we're funding the same people. that we were fighting the Taliban. upwards 40 million to $87 million a. week IG came out and. said we accidentally gave 239 million to. the Taliban we already know it's much. more than that Tim you wrote up a bill. what was that initial bill. folks you know it America has never been. this close to collapse to make matters.
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more as we grow you can gain access for. just $15 a month exclusively at. vigilance Elite. patreon you just basically cut off. funding to the Taliban taxpayers dollars. past the house and it's sitting there. Schumer won't even address it and I've. talked to multiple Senators they're. going to try to attach it to this bill. attach it. now that should be America should just. come unglued you think that'd be a. number one story with the Legacy.
Media and you know they just say hey. these guys what are they thinking the. Democrats in the house they didn't want. to touch it I mean it. went again it went as I like to say went. like Grant through Richmond you know um. they. um they they it was unanimous no. discussion how can how can they not be. concerned that we I mean I've said this. multiple times I'll say it again 911 was.
a $500,000 budget now they have 239. million at the at the minimum to make a. move we already know that the passport. office is creating legitimate passports. for terrorist after terrorist after. terrorist flying them down into South. America Central America to funnel them. up through here we've already caught. what I I don't know how many I know they. caught at least eight Aid terrorist. right it's more than that that the FBI.
they turned them loose into the they've. turned I think that many they've turned. loose and they don't know where they are. they have no idea what's coming no idea. and so how how is anybody right or. left okay with this because it is both. parties both parties both parties or. crooked in the steel it's. again to the Legacy Media addresses it. and and and yeah when I was in the State. House State Legislature here in. Nashville I voted against the Oilers.
coming up here I think there was. probably three people in the house in. the Senate 100 see uh uh 99 house 99. house members and um I think two of us. three of us might have voted against it. I had three phone calls from home. against it that was a ground swell of. support you know and that's why I voted. against. it and. people. just if they were to light up their. senators and say hey why are we funding.
the Taliban where is that bill where's. burchett's bill that's you know what. what Eli. said you get a couple thousand people. call you at lunchtime man and you get. nervous and that's what they need they. need to get nervous this is just the tip. of the. iceberg and if it hadn't been for you. and Legend and some others Scot and. Sirah Adams yeah if they hadn't have. gotten involved with it it would have um.
it would have not gotten anywhere. because you know it's funny we had that. bill filed and I get a call from. leadership say hey man what's going on. with this bill I said I don't know I'm. waiting on y'all to do something with it. said well it's up it's going to be up. next week get ready I told my people and. I was like let's I got it I remember I. got the text and I was thought well. finally something's moving yeah. so so only Schumer can do something. about this at the sen in the Senate.
that's where it's got to go another. Senator needs to address it and put it. on one of their bills but yeah well I. spoke with Senator Hagerty yeah he. called me um he called me actually from. Japan one day and said he was going to. get working on it but we got to get you. know we got to get the pressure I mean. he's got to that bill has to move in the. Senate and the only person that can. allow it to move is Schumer. you wrote another bill up did you write. another one up yeah what's the next one.
um uh the Vienna protocol or whatever it. where we we what we do we in in. government we duplicate so many um so. many things and um and what this is is. we're going to identify these other. countries that have a that consider the. Taliban and those groups terrorist. organizations and we get together and we. unify on the fight because what's. happening now you everybody hits one. little area this area and we don't do.
anything with it and this just forces. our hand and exposes what we've been. doing in the past and that's where a lot. of the discomfort is but I don't care we. screwed up we paying these murderers. literally American tax dollars and um. and this formulates that and it and it. keeps us from doing that in the future. and and it also is kind of a a buddy. check with the other countries that they. you know we sort of like what NATO was. originally intended to do and it and it.
and it forms that basis for that it's a. lot of bureaucracy I usually don't like. bills like that but this makes a lot of. sense that we we start talking to our. our friends about our enemies MH and it. um it cuts the middleman out and it. saves us a lot of money in the long run. because we're not duplicating the. process somewhere else that we're not. just wasting funds or assets when is. that going up. well it's I filed it um I think two. weeks ago so we're just waiting again.
you know these committee chairman it's. like moving a freaking Glacier who who. what what committee's that going let's. see where would that go I just we put it. in the hopper I haven't even heard back. yet I'll have to let you know I would. suspect it would U it would have to be. Foreign Affairs uh I mean do like what. do you think in there when when you. found this out. fought in those Wars yeah um I mean I.
hate I hate to sound. obuse but I feel like I've kind of been. desensitized to it a little bit like I'm. not almost nothing surprises me anymore. you know so um you know. it's when you just get outraged you know. hour after hour day after day you kind. of get desensitized to it and so it's. for me it's just kind of like not. surprised let's try and stop it and Tim. put me on your bill you know but I there.
is a level of desensi you know. desensitivity that takes place when. you're up in that place long enough and. uh you you try and fight to you know not. become that way to where you're so. institutionalized that you you know quit. caring but you know it's definitely it's. definitely a reality and and I try not. to get super emotional and just all.
right what's the problem what's the. mission who's got the bill let's go. let's get on it let's start let's start. applying pressure so that we can get. this one fixed cuz it does it feels like. we're playing whack-a-mole up there. we're always 10 steps behind and you. know and and we pass some good stuff and. it just dies in the Senate and I'm sure. vice versa but Eli I'll tell you every. day you're on the house floor and. somebody says and they always have their. little rectangular cards I might have. one right here yeah and they'll come up.
and say hey my bill is you know the be. kind. of Mother's bill or something and you. sounds like a good bill would you sign. on and say sure and and then you don't. ever it never goes anywhere it just sits. in these freaking committies it's very. frustrating because the money changers. are in the temple brother they are in. the temple and they pull the strings and. that's the bottom line and until we get.
people. that back to Eli's point until these. voters start recognizing that that. you're your Congress people are feeding. you a load of bull when they come home. follow up with them find out why they. voted for that 2000 page bill called the. transportation bill that only that 85%. of it had nothing to do with. Transportation so what in it in that. bill what is it that I'm mortgaging my.
grandchildren's future Financial. well-being that's worth it in that bill. and if they can't give you an answer. vote them out I don't care what party. they're in how do these bills how do you. educate your constituents. on the latest Bill agenda I do my videos. they're you know my redneck ass I get. out to and I'm holding the camera and. I'm telling I tell what it is and what.
that's how it's done that's how I do it. and I'm seeing a lot of people do it now. that's well produced but I just still. just me you know because I'm too tight. to hire anybody obviously there's no. there's. no pres official presentation yeah well. there is but again like the save act and. Eli and I have talked about how. frustrating this is you know the save. act prevents foreigners from voting in. our elections we already passed that in. July. and now they're tacking it onto another. bill a spending bill you know forcing.
Eli and I to vote for terrible funding. issues that are Pelosi Schumer funding. levels so they can pass this thing again. so we're going to send it over to the. Senate and force them to to not do. anything to shut the government down and. it just doesn't work because we're not. putting out a message unified message we. ought to hold a press conference every. day every dadgum day we ought to pass a. bill dealing with the Border if it maybe. the same bill every day enforce the. Democrats but we don't it's about. getting reelected Sean it's not about.
what's doing best for the country and. both parties are guilty of it and that's. inlies a lot of the corruption that's. within our government well let's move. into go ahead I was just going to say. one of the ways that we do it with our. voters educating them on bills policy we. do Town Halls tet Town Halls social. media I know Tim does all this stuff too. we also do a newsletter um you know once. a week we put out everything that you. know we're either voting for voting. against any bills that we have coming up.
but you know it is it is important you. know to make sure that you're staying in. communication sometimes if if I'm torn. on a bill um because you know it's it's. got some good stuff in it but some bad. stuff in it sometimes I'll send out a. poll to my district like Hey what how do. you guys want me to vote on. this so that's amazing that you do that. yeah what are. I want to move into government. corruption but real quick what are some. of the most concerning things that you.
guys are seeing up there at the house. what what's what's your. primary concerns right now go ahead I'll. take this one first um if I if I was to. look at all the issues that we're facing. the the number one priority I think for. us right now is getting president Trump. back in office I think that alone. alleviates. you know and it won't happen overnight. it'll it'll take time but that. alleviates and starts to turn back a lot.
of these horrible policies that are. destroying the country so that's number. one the number one thing I think that is. going to stop that is illegals voting in. our elections right because if you look. at. Arizona alone in the last election it. was about 10,000 votes a difference um. between uh Trump and Biden right if you. look at nationally you know the in the. five swing States I think it was a.
little over 40,000 votes that was the. difference in that election Sean they've. let in over 10 million people and they. are trying to register as many of them. as they can and they're they're also. using all the agencies like even the SBA. we've done a hearing on that right I. just saw a a clip of Harriet hagaman and. her committee you know they're using all. these agencies through executive order. to get out into communities largely that.
vote Democrat and using these agencies. to regist they'll hold an event like a. small business event and at that event. then they'll you know start registering. people to vote and so my biggest concern. is what you know that the they're going. to have a lot of these illegal aliens. voting that's that's my biggest concern. right now cuz I think that's the number. one. thing president Trump has never been up. in the polls he's up in the polls now.
but in the past he hasn't been up in the. polls so he's up in the polls their. candidate sucks you know she just does. she's a Marxist she's more left than. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders the. reason that her campaign has shielded. her from press is because they know the. moment she opens her mouth and starts. talking this whole false identity that. they've tried to creative her being a. moderate Problem Solver goes away and I. will give her props for the debate the.
other night cuz she outperformed what. any of us thought she was capable of but. that being said um that's my biggest. concern is illegals voting in this next. election well I got a question for you. you know I. mean I just interviewed this guy Eric. bethl he was uh at World Bank he was our. representative at World Bank and. we were talking at dinner and he was. talking about the swing States yeah and.
how these aren't correct numbers but. it's somewhere along these lines like. Pennsylvania for example the RNC has. like three. offices in Pennsylvania but the DNC has. like 40. offices how do you how do you I mean. we're not even take it take the illegal. situation out it's like it's like the. RNC isn't even attempting. to win the swing States yeah they're not.
deploying anybody in there they're not. expending any resour I'm going get. myself in trouble for this but I I tell. people I if you want to give money to. somebody give it to the individual. candidates you decide yeah you look at. somebody you say man that guy's get on. the internet and say that guy's. struggling out in Arizona or wherever. but he he or she is a great candidate. and looks like they're close I'm going. to support that person cuz what we had. in the past with our leadership is.
that's no longer there but they you they. were given money to go after Democrats. and as it turned out several good. Republicans Anna Pina lonus one of them. um they Ed that money Greg Stuy when he. first ran they they claimed they weren't. in those races they're not supposed to. get in the middle of. primaries and um they went after Thomas. Massie and you know they. cuz I was in conference and um and.
um Cheney Liz Cheney said Thomas is a. special case that's how he is in my. phone now Thomas special case Massie you. know and you the rules don't apply to. them and they've we and what they did. was they went after conservative. candidates who did our leadership did. and they had $17 million sorry I'm. pointing but they had $17 million that. was the money that was used against Eli. in his primary the the money they used.
against Matt Gates they might as well. just thrown that money down a whale the. money they used against um Nancy Nancy. mace yeah and they Bob good Bob good. they beat Bob good and um they had a. couple of people that I know of and one. they flew up to DC to run against me and. they the polling data didn't show that. they were. would would would fa very well against. me and yeah and I was telling you Sean. when we were driving here that's why a.
lot of rep it's one of the many reasons. a lot of Republicans won't won't do the. right thing represent their voters and. not the Republican party right because. they don't want to get on the wrong side. of that machine because that machine has. a lot of money and they'll put a hit on. you just like they did on me and Tim and. they weren't Tim's so popular in his. district they weren't even able to. recruit anybody run against Tim the same. things happened same thing happened with. Andy bigs in Arizona they weren't able. to find anybody to primary Andy BS cuz.
he's beat everybody that's run against. him and nobody was like I don't I don't. want to go Tangled with that but you. know for a young freshman like me they. finally found somebody was willing to. jump in there and you know thankfully. thankfully my voters had my back cuz I. have their back up there absolutely but. a lot of a lot of politicians don't want. to get on the wrong side of that machine. and they want to stay there for a long. time you know and everything that goes. with it and that's why you you rarely. see people go up there and uh kick the.
Hornets Nest you the old-timers will. tell you to need compromise that's what. we need that's what we're $35 trillion. in that every hundred days we had. another trillion NE party wants to won't. address it and uh because of the. compromise the Democrats will never talk. compromise when they're in the majority. but they sure are now what do you find. the most concerning thing to be right. now obviously the short term it's this. election which would. have long-term effects on the future of. our country but the spending we just.
keep um we're addicted to it we cannot. address it both parties both parties. both parties the Democrats will thank. you for saying that Democrats will use. it for woke stuff we'll use it for you. know missile defense plans or something. and um and that's why they pass these. big humongous budges 3,000 Pages read. down to page 26 well my wife or. girlfriend or both is employed by this. group like that takes care of them and. here's my bridge I need I stop reading.
there's you know. 2, 85 more pages of spending and um as. long as they get their stuff they're. there but if they don't and that's why. and and that's why we need single. spending in Tennessee what state we're. filming in right now our legislature we. have a balanced budget zero debt single. spending bills if the caption has about. dog catchers there's not going to be a.
dad gum pay raise in there for state. legislators it has to be about dog. catchers all the way through and that is. why they don't want that in Washington. they don't want to pass a budget because. if they did every one of those jug heads. up there would have to come down on the. house floor and. explain why their bill I can explain the. funding in my bill why we don't need to. be funding the Taliban and and why and I. always want a clean bill I don't want to. attach anything else to it I don't want. any more garbage vote it up or down and.
eventually we're either going to go that. route or we're going to become a third. world country it's another one of their. tricks Sean it's another one of the. establishments tricks because we. continually fund the government with CRS. or continuing resolutions or Omnibus. bills that are like like Tim said. thousands of pages right they they got. you between a rock and a hard place as a. representative because if if you vote no. on it because you don't want to fund you. know you know what whatever agenda it is.
or some woke and. weaponized program the first bill I had. up there first budget sorry I'm go back. to you the first budget I had had three. different studies on. lobsters and it was in three different. ranking member or chairman or leadership. people District Republican and Democrat. and and it just you know it's the same. thing but it was funding in there and. some of this funding we've come to find. out the programs of don't even exist.
anymore you know where the hell does. this money go what so yeah you well you. have um you have U arms situations that. are that way where they they don't but. they're still they're funding this. they're building you you'll build a uh a. military device that's. um outdated or Antiquated but they're. still going to and they're all they do. is what they call it mothballing it and. it's just going to sit out in the desert. somewhere and you see this time and time. again in government and yet it just. keeps happening it just keeps happening.
and then when you say something like. this when this comes out then you know. I'll get the hey big boy you better be. careful talk on the house floor it's the. same old crap every time D but there's. enough of it there's a few of us that. sit back there on center row and right. back in the back there about 25 or 30 of. us are just tired of it and we called it. out and I think people are paying pay. attention but it just how long will they. pay attention when it starts affecting. their their sweetheart deal or their.
fam's little junkets or businesses let's. move. into the corruption inside Congress yeah. you'd mentioned something about the. whistleblowers and how they need to be. careful with Communications and who they. communicate with and and the calls and. so I'm I'm interested to hear how. How concerned are you guys with. your Communications to each other your.
colleagues. me. anything every bit I very bit very. concerned I think everything I do and. say is at some. point tracked at least the cell phones. or you know they gave us they gave me a. cell phone when I first got to Congress. I said I don't want it they G yeah gave. you a cell phone they gave us all a cell. phone they gave everybody a cell phone. and I got my own I still you know I'm.
sure they can they want it they can get. it I'm pretty small potatoes I'm the. 435th most powerful member of Congress. but the but the but the real corruption. in Congress is in the structure it's and. Eli alluded to it very eloquently. earlier about you know the funding how. you you have to raise money you raised. money for your conference you're issued. a bill when you get there everybody is. the Democrats and the Republicans. everybody talks about it and you know. they'll tell you we're going to see how. you do in your committee selections if.
you want to move up how you do you know. on your on your bills and how you're. doing and how you do across the street. and what that means is you're not. supposed to be technically supposed to. make fundraising calls from the office. you have to go across the street the. Capitol Hill Club or someplace else and. how much money you raise for the. conference literally we've had committee. chairman that have written a personal. check and been made chairman of. committees personal check so you know. I've said this many times that if um if.
the NFL was Congress pton Manning would. still be waiting to get. in WoW cuz you it's it's not about. putting the best player in cuz if it was. you wouldn't I always remember this. Steve Cohen cross the aisle don't agree. on anything uh but he's my friend he. called my mama when my dad died when we. were in the state legislature I remember. one time we were looking at each other. and this old chairman come up the came. up the aisle and he's no longer there so. um he came up the aisle and they called.
for the vote and he turned to the little. girl that was beside him and said how am. I voting on this and she says you're for. this Mr chairman he goes oh okay puts. the card in hits the green button I. remember looked at Cohen and we just. shook her head because that structure is. in place you got to understand when. you're a chairman I mean you'll have how. many 25 or 30 people maybe that work. under you and then then all those. people's jobs require and they're out. whining and dining they're not supposed. to be but surely they are whining and.
dining and they go on the junkets and. they go on the trips just like you are. as the chairman and you know it's just. constant and they raise the money and. they have to to get in that spot they. have to raise the money and so they keep. them in that spot because they because. you're a chairman and you're the one who. ultimately decides if your bill is going. to have a rough go in your committee or. not and so um I mean that it's just a. completely corrupted system because of. that because I don't I'm not a. billionaire Eli's not a billionaire and.
we don't represent a lot of billionaires. and or millionaires for that matter and. it's It's just tough on people like us. because I don't I can't raise the money. that some of these guys can not that I'm. I I I told my wife the other day if they. beg me to be a chairman of a committee I. don't think I would do it just because. of all the nonsense that's involved all. the stuff you're expected to do and the. money what if you had a billionaire to. write that check for you. that's what happens that's how they own. you well I think he's saying if if you. had a billionaire that shared your world.
viiew then oh and wanted you to fight is. that what you're saying yeah are you. will are you that billionaire I wish I. was Tim I wish I was yeah you got a soul. good chairman too yeah I I agree with. you that yeah if you had one that that. shared your values but that gets squishy. man you know you start you get that what. does that check look like I'm just just. curious um what does the check look like. to get my this year 250 250,000 I'm a.
low man I mean cuz I'm in a not in a. wealthy a check for. $250,000 gets you in charge of a. committee no no that just gets my base. dues that puts me in good standing and. that I can continue in the Committees. I'm in probably a committee is probably. five million maybe something three or. four million I don't know some of them. raise a ton of money man they come in. there and they announce $3 to4 million. buys. you I'm not making you uncomfortable no. no no I talked to one of one of our. friends and uh he he told me that uh.
when he first got to Congress he was. told that he needed like you know to. stroke like a I think like $150,000. check if he wanted to be on a certain. committee and so he had to call some of. his donors you know to to uh Fork up so. that he could be on that committee but. to Tim's point it's it's a big part of. the corruption in the structure. and you can get to the bribery and all. that other stuff and how people are. compromised and I've I've talked about.
that till I'm blw in the face but it's. um and that's a reality too people have. family members that work for I mean I'm. just thinking as concerned as as people. seem to be and none of this is illegal. though that's the problem well what I'm. saying is yeah you're right it's not. illegal but it's immoral so how do we. get you guys a couple of billionaires to. fund you to be in charge of a committee. I'm not even [ __ ] around here I'm. being serious yeah that's a good. question maybe maybe some of them watch. SRS dude I don't know well maybe that's. why we're having this discussion even.
even then you would probably still need. leadership to sign off on it wouldn't. you yeah yeah and you know since we've. you know so I don't think that's voted. against McCarthy of course that and that. that upset a lot of the structure. because a lot of people had a lot of. money invested in that structure that. had never happened before Sean never not. in the history of our country had that. ever happened yeah so there's still a. lot of butur about it you know what I. mean cuz they had invested a lot in that. structure and they could make the call. and say hey I need some help with this.
can you pick up the phone and and move. this along what committee would you want. to be on I it goes back to what I was. telling you it's it's it's why I I. believe you need people that don't want. to be up there right to to to go and and. I think it's I think it's even healthy. for me personally I have this you know I. visualize the the swamp finally getting. me at some point I believe they're going. to get me they're going to get rid of me. and that's okay right because it's just.
like I'm not there to be a career. politician I'm there to try and change. the system and in knowing that I know. that it's going to fa you know I'm going. to face opposition and I'll have a lot. of people that don't like me um but what. I'm one thing I hope that you know the. example set is is is going to cause is I. hope other people that are better. smarter more talented that I am see that. you can come into Congress immediately. and you don't have to fall in line and. do what you're told you can actually.
represent the people that sent you there. and try and change the. system move on here real quick I want to. we were talking about the communications. and we've had offline conversations with. both of you guys about phones so. uh these are the ones Prince developed. or prin unplugged phone so those you can.
have all your uh social media apps. on there's actually a quick menu on. there you can turn on a VPN you can make. it so that those applications on social. Med any of the any applications you can. all it is is you flip a switch and they. can't access any of the rest of your. phone and suck that data out uh there's. a kill switch that actually puts. something in between the battery and the. phone so that you know that's you. probably know this maybe you do too I.
mean even when you turn your phone off. they can still listen but if you. separate the battery then they cannot. and so there's a kill switch on those. those those things are the [ __ ] man so. uh you can just take it to your provider. and get a SIM card put in there have to. make sure good to go it fits the thing. we'll probably I mean I'll be listening. I have to write you a check but we'll. probably have to write you a check just. just for the record we'll have to write. you a check we're not probably over the. limit I'll have to find out if you'll. find out what they're what they're worth.
yeah and then and then we'll write you a. check for the difference another another. another rule they would love to cat him. and I in there crazy it's so crazy how. many uh how many rules we have but yet. how corrupt the whole well I mean it's. like when I are you [ __ ] with me. right now no you can't you can't take a. gift over 25 bucks isn't it 25 bucks I. don't know I just don't take anything. that's my r only worth more than 25. bucks I'll get we'll we'll find out I. would love to have something like this. because this is this is something I.
would really love to have yeah Eric was. just up in uh he was just up in DC this. week doing a foreign policy discussion. with uh uh Mike Lee it's pretty cool I. only got to sit in for like 30 minutes. of it but I guess smart yes yes he. is back to corruption. what else is going on up there why is. everybody so concerned about re-election. why are why are all these congressmen. Senators why are they.
terrified the gra train stops and. they're terrified to people like you. because you've hit some crazy nerve. across this country I at my Mexican. restaurant some kids the mexon Mexican. restaurant attached to an Exxon is. really not a mexon they went up on their. prizes Margaritas are like six bucks now. I'm not a drinker but apparently that's. a that's not very that's not a very. empty price but um anyway uh everybody's. talking about you and people like you.
are a threat to them I really feel like. that because they they hope you're a. flicker in the pan and I don't think. they understand the. whole podcast. situation and I was at the ball game. yesterday and one of my biggest. supporters grandson he's like Sean run. really like that in real life I said. that's the way he is and I was at a ball. game and so young guy said something so. I think you've really struck a nerve in. this. country got an answer for that I think.
one of the reason so many people are so. worried about reelection is because this. has become their identity I think it's. the same reason a lot of guys struggle. when they get out of Special Forces or. the sealed teams or the. NFL because it's become their identity. it's who they they believe they are and. I think anytime you put your identity in. something that can be taken from you. you're in trouble mhm and that's why for. me man I always try and come back to.
what is my identity man and I'm an IM. image bearer of God man you know I'm a. Son of God I'm a husband I'm a father. and that's what I try and put my. identity in I'm an American I love my. country you know those are things that. you know those are things that are more. foundational even some of those things. can be you know taken from you but. anytime you put your identity in. something that can be taken from you. you're in trouble and I think a lot of. these people um they've never done. anything really cool in their life or.
anything that they're super proud of. some of them have but you know I think. some of them get caught up in the oh I'm. a congressman or oh I'm a senator and. you know they don't want to lose it they. don't want to go back to just being a. you know regular old civilian and. they'll compromise everything they got. and I think that's what our Founders. wanted I think our Founders wanted us to. go. you know into public service and then. you know go back home and go back to. whatever you were doing beforehand and.
not become a career politician you know. what the worst you know Tim you brought. a great point up when. uh when you invited me thank you by the. way to the uh State of the Union you had. mentioned at some point you had. mentioned you know none of these. congressmen go back to their districts. they all hang out here like it's a. [ __ ] club and they're not worried. about what their what their voters want. they just want to be in the social club. and.
that that really resonated with me and I. started paying attention and it's it he. lies 100% once again it is the identity. when I was in the state legislature I. remember guys would um would leave and. then within six months may be back up. there me people become sergeant-at-arms. because they just couldn't leave that. and I remember one time a buddy of mine. called. um he called a um I got a lobbyist I. knew his name was David mik manahan and.
he said um David I lost and he said what. he said I lost he goes who is this he. told him who he was and he says I've. never heard of you and he was joking but. the reality is is and David is was. friends with this guy to think he died. but he the reality is is that you don't. you know you got to realize that this is. some everybody's like likes you up there. hopefully they like you for the person. you are but you have to sometime realize. that that it's what you can do for them.
and then when you can't do that for them. and. I and I always talk about how when if I. go back home after the election I said. you know I'll probably be mowing a lot. of these people's yards you know that's. how I'll know them and that'll be the. relationship because I won't be their. congressman and you um I think too many. of them don't realize that and that's. why you see. them you know slip into depression. alcoholism and everything else after.
military you know or NFL or what have. you professional sports or or the. spotlight that we're in because nobody. unless you're a consultant or something. you know and that's that's part of the. Crooked nature of it but yeah well you. had mentioned. the the gravy train stops but I just. gave you a cell phone and you tell me. you're not allowed to take a gift over. 205. 5 so what gravy. trade I think uh going to the front of. the line being invited to the concert.
sitting in the nice box. um well there was just a how about the. insider trading yeah for sure there was. just how much is that going on well. that's a prevalent there's a there's a. website whales or something I forget. what it's called you can find it get. your kids to show you how to find it on. the internet go Google it but it it. lists um it lists all the legislators. you know and their trades and everything.
heck Pelosi everybody rails on her and. she's not even she's about halfway up. who's the number one uh forget his name. he's a Democrat he had a 300% return he. left he left though I think he left. early. actually shortly after that report came. out but still I think he'd already had. it plans and and it's equally divided. pretty much Republicans and Democrats. you know I want to point the finger I. wish I could but yeah and and. legitimately some of them have a. relationship with their broker where.
they say I don't want to know what. you're doing and all that but it it's. got to enter into. it and then there was just a senator. that got like busted for having that. jacket given to him with gold bars bars. that's extreme but it even stuff like. that happens here I mean is an extreme. you don't know till somebody gets caught. and then they they at to tell all but BS. and you hear about stuffff I um before I. got to the legislature you know they. would have a.
um everybody in Tennessee would there. was the liquor store across the street. caddy corner and you'd go by and and. You' hand them your a slip of paper and. get you your take-home for the week you. know and you could go on trips and it. was unlimited and and uh and then they. they figured out a way to do I don't. know $50 per person so I was in high. demand because they'd have to they. figured out an average and since I. didn't drink you know I'd get like a.
hamburger and a sweet tea or something I. may be around six or seven bucks so. bring the average down so I got invited. to every dinner you know in the. legislature but I you know the people. that that write the laws are the ones. that going to be breaking the laws. because theyve already figured out a way. to get around it that's why they're paid. the big. money and and. we you know there's a the lifetime. retirement after one after you get. elected that's just not accurate it's um.
it's uh it's not anywhere near that and. it's not a Lifetime Health insurance. after one year kind of thing it's. there's I mean how are they getting. these guy even like even a lot of the. veterans that I had so much confidence. in getting into Congress obviously not. you but I mean they just crumbled. because here here's how it is you and. I'll tell you how it was when I first. got elected at the State House the best. thing ever happened to me growing up was. we never had money but we were around.
people with money so it wasn't you know. I was I was a tea toer I didn't drink. when they started busting people for DUI. and at UT College campus I was always. asked I was driving somebody's 260Z or. their BMW or their Porsche because I get. to smok him out market and get chili. dogss after midnight because they were. hammered drunk and they knew I'd be. sober and I'd eat for free so. fast forward I'm in the state. legislature I get elected and all of a. sudden the ladies are laughing at my.
jokes and compliment me on the way I'm. dressing people telling me how that's a. great story man thank you and um invite. me to dinner introducing me to people. I'm told you know all these great things. and you just you just start believing it. and you know I've been doing this my. most of my adult life and I mean I just. laugh at it. cuz I see it cuz I've seen people commit. suicide ruin.
marriages never talk to their kids again. I go back to the suicide that's happened. more than once of people that I've. served with because they got caught up. in it and they were going to get popped. and they couldn't take the heat so they. took their own lives and it just you get. elected I was I remember I was I was. first elected and I was sitting on the. house floor. and um and these guys were walking in. and they're they're coming into their. committee with their. Entourage and you know you think once. you're elected you're going to get you.
you're going to be asked to negotiate a. trade deal with North Korea or something. by the president that's just not the. reality but you but you get this. enforcement reinforcement from the. lobbyists and the public and everything. and you just you start believing your. own press releases and I'm sorry I've. talked too long go ahead Eli no I I. think uh we might have discussed this. before but I think the the biggest thing. with military guys from my perspective. is um we have courage a lot of us know.
how to think outside the box I think. which we're most of us know how to play. on a team and I think all those things. are great skills that could be. transitioned well into public service. and Congress um I think that I think. where most a lot of us get caught up is. that we're so used to being a part of a. chain of command that when we go up to. Washington and we see a new chain of. command cuz like they have you know. speaker you know leader whip on on down. um they see a new chain of command that.
they've got to fall into and take orders. and they also start to game plan well if. I want to you know become a subcommittee. chairman or then a chairman or then get. into leadership how do I do that right. so that I can affect the change that I. want to see happen here and you know I. understand that mindset but the way I. always looked at it was that my chain. first first of all that Washington DC is. completely busted and broken and so. therefore the chain of command is not. doing a good job and secondly my chain.
of command is really the PE the 750,000. 800,000 people back home that sent me. there that's my chain of command and so. I'm going to work for them I'm going to. try and bust this up as much as I can. and I just I I think I don't think that. you know everybody comes in with that. mentality and I also don't believe that. many people and maybe I'm wrong on but I. don't think that everybody comes in with. the mentality that um a lot of people. come in with the mentality of.
incrementalism right well you know um. you know and and back to Tim's point on. compromise if we can get one little good. thing here you know yeah I might have to. vote for a lot of crap over here but I'm. willing to do it if we get you know a. little win over here and I've looked at. it as in we're in big trouble we need to. make big moves and that doesn't go over. well in DC not one B you know one thing. I've noticed just from talking to you. guys and some of the other congressman.
and senators and being around a little. bit. and I [ __ ] hate politics by the way. but. um you always hear that it's the one of. the most elite social clubs on the. planet and the observation that I have. is that these people get in they get. elected into these Social Clubs and then. kind of what you were saying they buy. into their own [ __ ] they start. thinking they're too important for.
everybody else except the in this case. the Congressional social. club and even when they know [ __ ] is. wrong they refuse to call it out because. they don't want to be they don't want to. be ostracized from the elite social club. that they've just been elected into is. there am I on the right track here you. are and then there's a step above it so. they don't want to be ostracized from. the elite Social Club but if they want.
to be promoted within that Elite social. club because you know I know I know. members that are angling for bigger. spots right now you know and if if you. got they got to be very careful. politically on not to piss off the wrong. person that could cast a vote or even. you know have a backdoor conversation. that would keep them from that position. and they're they're all working angles. yeah there's a committee that feeds this. to the speaker if that makes sense and.
that's sort of the the hierarchy I. forget the name of them but it's a like. I call it selection committee or even if. you wanted an appointment that had you. know took Senate confirmation right A. lot of these people are thinking about. that like if I want that spot where I. need to get confirmed by the Senate I. can't vote against that senator's bill. because you know that's the one vote. that that I need to get over the hump. like and that's politics and if somebody. dies or somebody gets. indicted man the Ink's not even dry on.
it and they're already figuring out a. way to get to that position seeing it. how it moves them up I can be I can move. up from nothing to be the third. assistant to whatever I forget you know. they've got all kinds of names but it's. to me it's a bunch of BS and that's not. unique to the government I mean there. people in Corporate America people in. the military. we're I think that's our nature to be. selfish and to be self- serving right. but um I think it's definitely you know.
elevated and escalated there just. because of the power and The Prestige of. you. know working you know in in the federal. government at TH at those levels more. people have played professional. baseball in this country than than have. been elected to congress uhhuh that. tells you how mhm Elite or whatever you. want to call. it yeah.
yeah is there anything else we're. missing I'm sure I mean we could. probably talk about this all day long. probably for a week I just remember I. was at a YouTube football game and. this chairman end up he end up getting. indicted I remember he pulled up and I. think he parked kind of. illegal and he got out of his car and. was strutting through the. crowd and um get his tickets to the Ball. Game or whatever my buddy said who's.
that I said well he's a pretty big deal. in Nashville and he said tell him me. ain't in Nashville anymore he's in. Knoxville he ain't nobody here and I. think sometimes we forget that I see. these guys come out of their district. and you know I don't know anybody nobody. knows me in Eli's district and I think. sometimes we forget that that we we. supposed to be back home representing. that. group I do want to bring something back. up about when we were talking about.
biggest threat biggest threats and I. said getting Trump in and then illegals. voting I don't know if I brought up the. fact when we voted on the save act which. would keep illegals from voting and I. think this is so important I think it. was only five Democrats voted to support. it only five Democrats voted to stop. illegals from voting in our election and. I think that's so telling and so. important cuz I know you have people on. all sides of the spectrum that watch the. show explain that one to me right.
explain that one to me you guys have. created and orchestrated A system that. has allowed over 10 million people. within four years to come into the. country and now your party is. fighting to allow them to. vote and you call us a threat to. democracy and you have the audacity to. talk about foreign. intervention in.
elections think about that do you know. who the five were by chance I. don't it's public record yeah I'd love. to know that we'll find it out put it. out on screen give them a little Kudos. but um. wow you know I know the Super T touchy.
subject obviously but people talk about. it all the time Civil. War do you guys think we're headed to a. Civil. War I think it's I think it's possible I. think at the very least I think we're. headed towards Civil Disobedience I. think that will come first. um and I do think we're headed down a. track of you know towards totalitarian. Rule and I said that the other day I was.
talking about um the Kamala Waltz um. ticket you know when when he talks about. says publicly one man's socialism is. another man's neighborliness and then. she regularly talks about equal. outcomes that's the dialect that's the. code that's the dialect of the Socialist. the totalitarian car in 100% I think I. was sharing with you that some reporter. asked me um cuz I was talking about that. at an event with Governor Greg Abbott uh.
we were stumping for Trump a couple. weeks ago in Arizona and she said what. what are you talking about this ticket. being totalitarian and I just looked at. her and I said well what governments. censor their own. people that was it but it's like it's. not even it's not they're not even. really trying to hide it anymore no you. know of all the things that Trump was. fact checked on the other night in the. debate notice how he wasn't fact check.
when he talked about kamala's dad being. a Marxist Professor they got through. that quick yep she and she didn't she. didn't she rebutted many things but she. didn't rebut that and you know it's just. it's just telling to me because you know. the the strategy of Marxism is divide. and conquer right back. back in the day it was divide us all up. economically the halves and the Have. Nots now they've employed and I think a.
even more effective tactic here in the. west and that's divide us all up by race. ethnicity. gender um and Dr VOD bacham would call. that cultural Marxism and I think it's. been very effective here but instead of. trying to unite us around the the values. that you know have made this country so. great and have created created so much. opportunity and prosperity for us all. they try and divide us up on all these. all these different metrics and. barometers you know and it just makes us.
makes it easier for them to conquer us. and then to present themselves as the. Savior as the solution and I it it blows. me away that some people can still be. gaslit into thinking that the federal. government would ever be the solution. for anything I I think the Civil War. question is uh I think it'd be more of a. regional thing I always remembered um. when Trump was giv a speech at the White. House and riots were you remember where.
um Rand Paul got attacked him and his. wife did and then I was I guess we were. maybe 100 yards behind that and so we. went back the other way and I remember. the police were um I remember um Andy. Bar from Kentucky his wife had died and. he had his two precious little girls. there in these pretty little matching. dress. and people were just saying filthy stuff. and i' had enough and I told those I I. asked that one little girl I said you. want me to carry and he said no and I.
just held her little hand and I I told. her I said those people probably just. needed Jesus honey I said we pray for. them and and it seemed to give her a. little Comfort but anyway we had the. girls Mark green was with me on one side. and I remembered the police this town. was like bordered up boarded up and and. I'm I'm not a big city guy so so but the. blocks on every corner that's where the. cops were and they weren't allowed to go. within the the city within the block.
they were told where to be and I just. thought this is what Civil War looks. like I mean this is and I think it it'll. be a regional type situation where. people will move out of. the the the people who can will get out. and they'll come to places like. Tennessee refugees so to speak and then. they will end up um when they leave. their states though they will turn them. over to the cabal or whatever the.
corrupt far-left machine and that's what. and I think you'll see two Americas. emerge more so than we have now and also. but you know I'm at these gun shows I. hear these guys talking tough you know. and I said this a breakfast to y'all. that they're going to you know if a tank. rolls down the street they're going. to hands will go up you you guys would. know how to handle that but people like. me will not know how to handle that I I. just can't see that being happening I. see somebody shoots a couple shots and.
they get them fired back and they're. throwing the white the white flag up so. I just I don't I I I don't know how you. would how what that would look. like I think all about it all the time. and I mean I don't think it looks. like how traditional Civil Wars look I. mean I mean look we saw. we saw a 17-year-old kid. and an entire city of riots with what. three.
bullets. done immediately stopped I don't think. that's what it looks like I think it's. like what you're talking about and I. think it's already. starting I mean you see you see there's. a massive migration happening in the US. right now you. see red States going farther red you see. blue States going farther blue I think. that some of that I mean like let's for. example and I'm not ask him what your.
guys' stance is on it or anything but. abortion for example like my personally. I think it's a. little a. little out there to be hunting women. down that have had an abortion and. throwing them in prison um but I don't. think that's actually going to happen I. I think that is a deterrent from. getting lefties to move into the state I. think that some of these other things.
that are far left are deterrence. for people on the right to move into the. state and I I think it's dividing right. now on top of that you see these. Governors starting to align I mean um. that event that we went to in Nashville. what couple weeks ago maybe a month or. two ago go yeah uh it was what the. governor Louisiana and and Governor. Tennessee talking about how they are. aligning on all these issues and sending.
in the National Guard to help on the. Texan border yep I. mean this is kind of how it starts it's. kind of how it's it's not kind of how it. starts this is how it starts you have. 15% of the population voting too. so you know War who's going to notice. almost kind of thing yeah yeah yeah I. mean is there talk about this up in. congress not really I don't hear a lot.
of talk about it maybe maybe a joke here. or there but I I I do think there's a. level of Detachment up there clearly and. uh just not not Representatives pick. picking up on the frustration of the. American people and the frustration of. the continuance of the status. quo do you think I mean what what would. it look like but you guys seem like.
pretty forward thinkers well of course. what does it look like we lose our we. lose our Firearms we fooled him he. thinks that we're forward thinkers. forward thinkers I know our our evil. plot is yeah. thanks I I I I worry. about makes a lot of people uneasy but. but um you. know Camala Harris has said that you. know she'd like to get the guns what do. that look like how do you get the.
guns. um I mean I think that's the start of it. you got a second amendment and then. without a second amendment it was. clearly put in there for a reason mhm. and clearly people abuse it that's no. question there but it's. um do you feel like state government's. becoming more important than Federal I. think it originally was designed that. was sep for National Defense that was.
it I think it's I I think that's. important you know and unfortunately not. a lot of people pay attention on the. federal level or the state level but I. think you're seeing now especially. postco how important it is to have a. strong state government you know and so. many people people benefited by being in. a red State and many people fled out of. blue states to go live in red States. just because they could still you know. have some you know level of Freedom um.
and so it goes back to something I was. talking about earlier uh how important. it is that people actually pay attention. and do the bare minimum you know of what. it what it means to be a citizen and be. engaged be educated you know vote be an. activist there's so many there's so many. ways you can participate in this. government but what here's the key what. happens when you don't you're seeing it. right now it's all there's always a. vacuum and that vacuum is filled by.
something and what's it being filled by. right. now Bob Dylan had a song um he became a. Christian for a while I'm not sure if he. still is or not I don't know what his. faith is but he it was called you got to. serve somebody and it was in the line. you got to serve somebody be the devil. or the Lord but you got to serve. somebody and what I think he was saying. was if if you're not filling that Gap. the other side is it's just vacuum there. is no vacuum in politics it's either at. the table or you're on the dad gum menu.
and right now America is on the menu. because the fat cats are are getting. fatter and all they're concerned about. is is keeping in power and keeping that. that cash machine. rolling how much do you think the states. can. shelter its citizens from federal. government it depends on who's in the. White House yeah and and up to this. point I think quite a bit you know when.
you look at just like going again back. to co you know what life was like when. you had a govern um you know a governor. you know who wasn't enforcing any of the. mandates that other states were. enforcing even in even in Texas right. now you have a governor that's willing. to actually if the federal government. won't protect the people which is one of. its primary responsibility from The. Invasion coming over our Southern border. that Governor there has actually erected.
walls barriers you know um Constantine. wire um to protect his own citizens and. so up to this point I think you know it. they have been able to play a very big. role on you know the prosperity and. safety of their citizens to to Tim's. point though how long does that continue. based on you know where we're headed and. the type of candidates that we have now. that are running on the other side of. the ticket who are way too cozy with.
totalitarianism and and one of the. things you got to realize too with the. illegals is that who supports that who. supports that issue the national. Chambers of Commerce do the national. Chamber of Commerce did every time. there's a bill they're always mucking it. up you know you got to remember they're. y all they're your little local Chamber. of Commerce well they give one % or. something to the National Chamber of. Commerce you got to realize they. endorsed about for first time I ran six. years ago about 14 or 15 of close he.
closest allies and they kept the. Democrats in power and that was. obviously against small business but. large business loves it they love the. fact they have some guy on their roof. your roof that doesn't speak English. that when he falls off he's not going to. do anything cuz he's afraid he's going. to get deported they're going to take. him down to the emergency room and then. you and I are going to pay for it and. the big boys they're still going to be. making making their cut mhm and the. Working Class People are going to suffer. and they continue to rise my daddy used.
to always tell me I said D why these. people why would they be for communism. he said because they're the ones that'll. be in power they will be in. power well what's the answer what's the. answer I'll tell you what the answer is. Revival that's right as a Christian. that's got to be the at the first and. foremost I I think we got to realize. where we are as a nation and preachers. got to start preach preaching the gospel. again and not be afraid of it be bold I. spoke to a group of preachers uh a.
couple weeks ago I said y'all just got. to be bold quit being afraid man we got. your calling is is is bigger than the. United States government and I think. we've allowed them to get in their. comfort zones too much we got to call. them out and they've got to and that's. where it's got to start in this in my in. my opinion there's other areas of course. people are going to say oh but you know. I'm an atheist or whatever but but as a. Christian I think that's where it's got. to happen we have we have failed we have.
turned from God and we've. allowed um this transgender thing man. good gosh we're allowing. kids to permanently scar their bodies. they testicles removed little little. boys the little girls getting their. breasts removed and we're celebrating. that. uh on on that note Sean there's a you. might want to edit all that out I. apologize there's a scripture in 2.
Corinthians and it says I don't know it. by heart but it says something to the. effect of If my people who hear my voice. will humble themselves and pray and. repent call upon my name then then then. I will heal them and I will I will hear. them I will and I will heal their land. like I think that is the biggest most. important thing going on here I think. everything that you see is just um a. ramification of like Tim said pushing. God out of everything and I think that.
you're seeing God you know be like okay. you don't you don't you don't want you. don't want me okay well and and I think. I think that's the key you know um a. people that have turned their back on. God and every time this H every time. that happens throughout the scriptures. it's always the same cycle it's always. the same cycle. and it never ends well until it gets so. bad that people finally are willing to. Humble themselves and turn back to God. and so I I hope we do it I hope we do it.
before it gets much worse but based on. what I'm seeing in the culture I'm I'm. not I'm concerned I I don't think. Trump's the Messiah I don't think. he's you know I I was asked on the BBC. they were making fun of something I said. about God's will and I said you know I'm. a Christian I believe the scripture says. a sparrow falls from the sky I know it I. know how many hairs are on your head of. course on yours or a few less than are.
on mine and Eli's. but my point was is that you know we. have. um uh every time God puts his hand out. we've swatted it away it's the old adage. you know those Old redneck farmer is on. a roof on his ladder and he starts. falling he says Lord help me and then a. nail catches his uh pant leg and or his. overalls and he says never mind Lord I. got it well in mine and Eli's and your.
minds that God put that nail there and. uh you know and I have I'm a big. believer in that I was um when I was. County mayor we had a I used to ride. around in these ice truck the snow. trucks when they' go out and Sal the. roads there in Knoxville Knox County and. um we hit this black eye spot I'll never. forget it it just this just almost just. went slow motion and we were just. sliding I looked over and we were going. off a cliff I looked down there there. was a dead deer carcass I thought how.
ironic is that and that thing that truck. goes like this it just goes and it just. stopped and I and there was one tree. there and the Press asked me about that. what did I think about that I said God. planted that tree 60 years ago knowing. that my dumb ass was going to would have. died probably I I could have we. literally cuz it was and I'd probably. end up with a jack stand impaled in my. head or something but you know. continuously in this country we swatted. away when Trump that bullet and what.
they were making the point was what I. said that was God's will that Trump. missed you know I don't think he's I. don't know if he's a Christian or not. but I I I know what he'll do if he's in. in power and you know King David for. instance terrible guy I mean he sleeps. with Beth Sheba his best General is best. Buddy's old lady has the general killed. sends him out in this area and then he. pulls everybody back and leaves him in. there and he gets killed but but God had.
favor on him and and he led he led the. Jews through it all and he to this day. he's remembered as one of the great he's. a matter of fact the I think is one of. the the only non-american who's there's. a in. the in the capital there he's got his. his face up on the wall up there and um. and so I I he's not a perfect vessel. Trump. isn't but I I think for some.
reason he is our best choice right now. mhm. yeah man well it's funny you mention. that cuz me and Eli were talking about. that on the way over here too that I. think the left versus right thing. is it's not working no it's not I mean. and that but but also it keeps the big. boys in power you don't think that. they're not just laughing I mean they're. at the end of session they'll the had a.
lot of the head boys in both parties. they're up at Kenny bunkport or. someplace drinking. a spensive glass of wine or something. toasting each other laughing at us and I. think we got to realize that. these these parties are leaving us man. and but to that point that's why I love. even though I know this. me this title the America first movement. I know it's been hijacked and turned. into some like white supremacy like.
nonsensical you know thing but I love. that the movement because it puts. Americans of all political parties you. know of every color first and I think. that's what we've been missing that's. what the unip party that's what the. cartel The Establishment whatever you. want to call it that's what it fails to. do on a daily basis and that's why I. love that movement because regardless of. whether you're talking energy policy or. border policy that movement is based on. putting you know Democrat Democrats.
Republicans independence first if. they're American. citizens man that would be nice it would. be that would be nice but. um well jents I know you guys are on a. time crunch so I'm going to wrap this up. but. uh I just want to say you know we talked. about the voting only 15% of the people. vote most people are too lazy I would. say just grab a buddy drag their ass to.
the poll and make them. vote if we all did that then we get. double the numbers so on that note I. just want to say once. again it's an honor to have you guys you. are. uh there's not very many people in. Congress that that. uh still have control of their soul and. uh I think you guys do and and I just I. just really appreciate both of you you.
know with the Afghanistan stuff with the. Brad giri stuff all I mean you guys are. just always doing the right thing and uh. at least appears to me and uh it's an. honor for me to be here with you two. guys y'all served our country and that. in my family that goes a long ways and. I'm I'm always it's an honor for me to. call you two guys my friends because I'm. in public a lot and people ask me about. you all and and I I don't tell you that. enough that much I appreciate you guys.
because it's a it really is an honor for. somebody that cuz you know my dad served. and my mama flew an airplane and my. wife's deceased husband the biological. father my child served you know and I I. never did my brother-in-law's were in. Sniper I never served my dad come. country and you guys did you weren't. drafted you chose and you you were. called on to do incredible things and. I'm in honor I'm in awe of you guys and. it is incredible honor to call you guys. my friends and I appreciate it and y'all.
let me hang out and and say stupid stuff. and I appreciate it. thanks thank you to it's a good note all. right. brother God bless bless thanks. [Music]. no matter where you're watching Shan. Ryan Show from if you get anything out.
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