David Tice - The Power Grid Blackout / America's WORST Enemy Could Attack Any Moment | SRS #60
here's an interesting statistic for you. if the U.S faced a catastrophic power. grid failure is in the whole grid went. out throughout the entire country. 90 of the U.S population. would be dead that's from the EMP. commission now you might be wondering. how close are we to a scenario. where all of the Power guard goes out. well unfortunately we're a lot closer.
than most people think. that's what we're going to cover in this. episode is all the vulnerabilities that. we know about that the power grid faces. and the good news is at the end of this. we talk about how to fix it so. unfortunately there is no legal. ramifications for not protecting our. power grid from the companies that. Supply Power that's because they are. lobbying. our politicians which means they're.
paying them off so that they don't. create laws that Force the power. companies to protect the grid go figure. politicians getting paid off right. but anyways hey we got David Tice he's. on the show today he is the producer and. director of the documentary grid down. power up I suggest you check it out it's. a free Doc Linked In the description. ladies and gentlemen if you get anything. from the show please go to Spotify go to.
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[Music]. welcome to the Sean Ryan Show so glad to. be with you Sean and honor to be here I. have been. very interested in the vulnerabilities. of our power grid for for a long time A.
friend of mine showed me this. documentary grid down power up. phenomenal documentary so you are the. director and producer of that Doc and um. and you're doing it just to raise. awareness on how just how vulnerable our. grid is and um. and it's making a lot of waves you know. after dinner last night it sounds like. it's making a lot of ways and I just. want to add some fuel to the fire. well let's get it out there and get your.
viewers to become grid Warriors that's. what this the next hour is going to be. about all right well. before we kick it off everybody that. comes on the show gets a gift. are you ready ready any guesses. I have no idea all right well here you. go. all right I'm a uh. snacker so gummy bears those are. vigilantly gummy bears made in the USA.
and believe it or not they're legal in. all 50 states you're not going to feel. funny after you eat them yes all right. yeah thank you sir you're welcome but um. but uh so before we get started. how did you what prompted your interest. in this because you're. you're an Investments guy right not a. grid guy no so how did you get. interested in the U.S power grid. so I actually have been a geopolitical. you know junkie going back probably 20.
years and so I followed some really. intelligent uh gurus that have followed. Russia China and North Korea uh Iran and. the threat to America and therefore I've. had the highest ranking spy that ever. defected from the Gru and the gru is a. sister organization of the KGB in my. living room and he actually was his name.
stands a lot of luniv and so he. testified in front of congress with his. voice disguised behind a screen and he. was one of the guys from the Russian. side that worked with the Chinese in. their master plan to essentially. undermine the United States and so I. followed you know great geopolitical. strategists like Jeffrey Nyquist and. Frank Gaffney uh Peter Navarro. Etc and so I've been worried about this.
what did I'm sorry I can't pronounce his. name what what did he tell you. oh a stancilau of luniv essentially he. said that the Russians were almost. inhuman in terms of their leadership and. so. he made the point about how. people in the west think about some of. this Russian leadership and they think.
that they're normal human beings but. that they are Cutthroat and vicious and. essentially just wanted to undermine the. United States so you're saying they're. they are doing they're willing to do. whatever it takes to win. exactly everything that we're not. willing to do exactly interesting a lot. of countries are coming out now and it. looks like they're doing to they're. willing to do whatever it takes to win. whatever their goals are the only.
country I don't see doing that is the. one we live in. so what he also said is that Russia and. China are working together and they. planned on undermining the United States. and they essentially want to. Wipe Out the United States that's in. their master plan and that comes from. taking out our power grid. well he didn't get as specific as that. at that particular juncture but then I.
learned over time about how. that generally is a master plan and I. learned later that we have. studied Defector literature and we have. you know Defector testimony and a number. of them from all four countries uh Iran. North Korea China and Russia have said. that this is in their master plan and we.
know even from Special Forces operations. you know that are conducted you know. from Western countries that it is. typical game plan. to take out civilian infrastructure and. take out the power grid. I mean it makes makes a lot of sense and. uh and we're going to dive into all of. these plans and what you've learned. um so you have the documentary broken up.
into kind of four different sections and. and they are basically the four threat. vectors of where our power grid is most. vulnerable and that's broken into. physical attacks cyber attacks. electromagnetic pulse attack or EMP. and geomagnetic disturbance which is a. natural basically a natural EMP uh. delivered from the Sun. but before and then there's also the. political weakness.
um which I would personally consider a. threat as well. um but before we get into that I'd like. I'd like to go over and paint a picture. of. what it looks like if our power grid. were to go down and you did an amazing. job of that in your documentary. well thank you so essentially what would. go down is. and really there's misperceptions. sometimes about the power grid going.
down sometimes it's out for a couple. days normally it happens regionally you. know it's a pain in our neck and. sometimes if it might go down regionally. we might have you know another state or. another city come in to help us out what. we're talking about here is. two different amplifiers one if it's. Nationwide then you don't have you know. yeast and able to help out Louisiana as.
an example you know then we have to. count on France and then also we're. talking about something longer than a. couple days if this happens six to nine. months then again it amplifies it you. know a thousand to a million fold and so. if if we truly have an outage that is. Nationwide that lasts nine months the. EMP commission which is a commission.
that was mandated by U.S Congress and it. has much more Authority and better. funding than a congressional committee. they found that as many as 90 percent of. Americans would die. ninety percent of Americans that's. what's ninety percent of 360 million. people that's yeah so it's like 300. million. so 300 million people wiped off the map. just like that and how how long did you. say that would take. nine months nine months that that was.
the metric that the EMP commission. utilized. and what does it look like if our power. grid goes down. so it really becomes almost zombie. apocalypse and it's horrific because we. think about. loosen the rule of law and so we have. George Carlin you know a clip from you. know one of his comedy tours in a movie. and he says you can't count on the.
police or the National Guard they'll be. at home protecting their own family and. that's exactly true. I don't think people realize how much. chaos and how miserable. it will become when the power grid goes. down and and just I've known this is. coming for a long time and when I first. started looking into me and my wife. lived in Florida we went through a. hurricane and anybody who lives in. Florida the population just continues to.
increase an increase and now after after. 2020 and covid with all the mandates all. these. people that want freedom are just. pouring in there like like it's nobody's. business and well we know we moved up. here about five years ago to Tennessee. and we went through a hurricane here's. what happens in a hurricane if anybody's. been through one they they obviously. know but. grocery stores are completely wiped out. within about 48 Hours of a hurricane.
coming just just the news alone people. go into panic mode and they take there. goes all the water there goes all the. bread there goes all the meat all the. frozen food all the vegetables anything. you can think of it's gone gasoline gone. the lines go around the lines can be. over a mile long sometimes plywood gone. why do you need plywood to one to keep. looters out and to keep. um.
debris that the hurricane is going to. throw at your house uh from crack from. breaking Windows all the plywood's gone. all the generators are gone because. everybody knows the power is going to go. out. everything that you can think you can't. even Escape it because the I believe it. was Matthew there was a stop and go. traffic jam on Highway 95. and that went all the way from Miami to. Atlanta Georgia stop and go traffic.
There Is No Escape. and so when we went through that which. uh that hurricane that if I remember. correctly that wound up being kind of a. uh over embellished by the news. but. it did paint a picture of what it's. going to be like with all these new. people I mean Florida's worried that. they're not going to be able to flush. the toilets in a couple years there's so. many people down there now so we moved. up here when we moved up here. I was I had a very particular.
type of property that I was looking for. because I was thinking about the grid. and what's going to happen when it does. go down because I I knew early on how. vulnerable it was I didn't realize it. was this vulnerable. and we we looked for a place that was. way out of the middle of nowhere it had. to have a water source because when the. grid goes down there goes your water. there goes your medical there goes your. food everything it's gone there goes the. police there goes Communications you.
think you're going to talk to your. elderly parents nope that's over. um. no cars especially if it's an EMP an EMP. will destroy any electronic device. within its within its range and. um help me out here there's a lot more. you know that needs to be said about. what this looks like in a never-ending. in a never-ending I mean nine months. just nine months alone. and and it frankly could be six months I.
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I mean there it is I mean there's. literally nothing which is going to CR. nothing there are no Supply chains there. are no there is no water there is no. food there is no fuel everything that. you have come to know all the. both luxuries and Necessities in life. are. fueled by the power grid and. that's going to create chaos because. when people get hungry and they get.
thirsty and Desperation sets in there's. no more friends there's no more. communities people are going to do. whatever they need to do to enable their. families and themselves survive. and it's it's. just going to be Mass not really rioting. chaos in the streets nobody's coming. there is nobody coming how are they. going to fuel helicopters to bring. supplies in they're not they can't. there's an expression that's utilized.
among this grid Warrior Community which. is there's no Calvary to come. and you can't count on the calvary and. uh so let me also mention even if you. had some backup generators and some. people you know some institutions like. hospitals or apartments might have. backup generators but then how much. diesel Supply do you have and then. sometimes it's three days you know. sometimes it's a day and a half maybe it.
might be 30 days but then your diesel is. not going to be delivered you know. because there's going to be chaos and. therefore when that's what causes you. know the problems and people think that. oh I've got you know this backup. generator or you know the. the power guys you know from the. electric utilities will come out and fix. all this well how about if the Gen if. the Transformer and these high voltage.
Transformers and we talk about in the. film that are you know hundreds of tons. each are made mostly in South Korea. Germany and some in China and that's a. big part of our movie that we talk about. is they can't be replaced without there. being an enormous backlog and it will. take you know potentially right now the. backlog has gone from two years to over.
five years from what we understand. because what's happened in the Ukraine. the Russians have gone after the. Ukrainian uh power grid and they've. wiped out a number of Transformers and. therefore in replacing some of those. Transformers have been damaged it's. increasing the backlog for Transformers. do we make any of these Transformers yes. we do make some and and there's about. five companies that do make these.
Transformers and and frankly I was a. little bit less aware of that until not. that long ago but we're actually. starting to talk to some of those. companies and we're trying to work you. know behind the scenes to do all we can. to fix this issue and you made mention. before about why I was doing this to. raise awareness it's not just to raise. awareness it's raise awareness and get.
our legislators get our Regulators to. damn fix this problem and part of my. motivation for all this was I call. myself NASA grandfather because my. grandkids are four three two one Houston. we have a problem yeah and so I said. we've got to wake people up we got to. create enraged Mama bears and soccer. dads such that we get in front of our. legislators and our regulators and we.
get this stinking problem and this. vulnerability fixed this should be one. of the most important agendas in this. entire country and it's. I don't think it's even on the agenda. going back to the Transformers so I'm. gonna display uh on video right now what. these Transformers look like. Transformers take up to 18 months to. make the US cannot live six months. without these Transformers cyber.
security no one has checked for. vulnerabilities on the back doors of. these Transformers uh how vulnerable. they are to hackers China provides 10. percent of the electricity to New York. City and 20 percent of the electricity. Las Vegas. 200 of these Transformers are from China. and are embedded into the U.S power grid. China South Korea and Germany are. the majority of the manufacturers as you. just previously stated and um.
and uh I know we're going to get into. these Transformers a little bit later. but let's start let's just start with. the four threat vectors and. the first Threat Vector I have is. physical attack. let's talk about the domestic terrorism. attack that happened in Metcalf. California. and how the reason I want to talk about. that is it shows. how vulnerable it is and how.
unsophisticated it can be to make to. make this amount of to to take the grid. out. okay so let's talk about that so this. was 2013 Metcalf California which is. outside Silicon Valley. and this was a major substation so this. attack you know was covered actually in. 2022 in a January 60 Minutes story uh. that was rerun again in August you can.
go to YouTube and watch that story uh it. was fortunately. uh. so it seems that eight or nine. terrorists were utilize in AK-47s or. AR-15s and shooting out you know the. cooling you know facility for uh. these Transformers and fortunately. police got there uh they disappeared.
into the night they've never solved you. know who this was. unfortunately. we were able to divert power such that. it did not cause a massive outage in uh. Silicon Valley but it was frankly a. wake-up call and frankly it was hidden. for about a year until the Wall Street. Journal ran a story a year later it was. hidden yes it was completely hidden why.
do you think they hit it because. the powers of B did not want the. American public to understand that there. might be uh terrorists out there taking. out a substation it's also possible that. they didn't want this to create you know. metoo attacks you know other people. saying oh we can do this and therefore. you know potentially our powers of B.
have some reasons for you and I both. know you know our authorities don't tell. us the truth all the time and so that's. becoming more and more clear every day. that goes by but what came out of this. uh report was. ferc which is the Federal Energy. Regulatory Commission which does a lot. of the regulation for our power grid. they ended up running a study and they. found that if there were as few as nine.
critical substations were taken out you. know just key nodes it could cause the. power to go out Nationwide nine. substations how many substations are. there there are about 55 000 substations. and it would only take nine substations. to two yeah would these need to be. strategic attacks is there nine in. particular yeah yeah no I'm sure there's.
maybe 50 that would fall within that. nine you know and I haven't seen that. report but it would have to be you know. key substations for sure so another. thing that I found interesting is. there is no uh legal obligation. for. these power companies both private and. public companies I think if I remember. correctly there's around 20 power. companies Nationwide.
none of them have any legal obligation. to secure. their grid that serves. every person in the United States. what I think is I mean how is that even. possible I mean this is. life power is life. okay the most I mean this is also what.
enables us to be the most powerful. country in the world is is electricity. and Power. so electricity so Senator Bob Hall who. is a state senator in Texas and he's a. real Patriot as he's been fighting for a. better grid legislation uh grid. protection legislation in the state of. Texas for four different sessions so he. says that electricity is more important.
than anything after air it's even more. important than water because if you. don't have electricity you're not going. to have water. and therefore that's how important it is. and human beings need water they they. will die after three days of not having. water. and therefore this is how important. electricity is now. there's been something called regulatory.
capture and there should be better. regulation of our utilities there's uh. that provide electricity because. electricity is so important. but most people don't want to be told. what to do most companies in most. Industries don't want to be told what to. do but in the public interest there. needs to be regulation Talent companies. what to do but what's happened is. there's mostly self-regulation.
in the electric utility industry which. means so we call that regulatory capture. which means the utility industry has. captured The Regulators so we go over in. a film this in for a couple brief. minutes about there's ferc and nerc so I. mentioned Federal Energy Regulatory. Commission and then North American. electricity uh. North American electricity regulatory.
Corporation and both those entities uh. especially nerc. has 75 percent of their trustees come. from the public utilities. well. are there any of these power companies. that. that are proactive enough to actually. put up some type of protection for these.
these power stations and substations and. is there anything yes there are. certainly some utilities that are better. than others for sure and we talk about. that in the film we actually mentioned. you know five or six companies that have. you know gone much further than most but. the problem is it needs to be. industry-wide and we need to wake up.
there needs to be better regulation. demanding that these companies make. these changes and that's not in place. I'm sorry I said for narkis the North. American electricity reliability. Corporation. um. so this attack in Medcalf California. that sounds like the U.S Navy Seals uh.
helped with a some type of an after. actions report and said that this was. likely a terrorist attack then one year. later the FBI concluded go figure that. it wasn't a terrorist attack but they. had no further information right so they. they don't know what it is but they just. know it's not a terrorist attack exactly. FBI's. in extremely unimpressive organization. um.
let's move on to. cyber attacks and I think. you know actually backing up you know. another thing is this physical attack. we had a mentioned at the beginning. that's the China and Russia are working. together. it's likely China is going to take. Taiwan before. the end of the Biden Administration. um we already see Putin made his move.
under the Biden Administration these two. are working together you're starting to. see more and more countries. take sides with China and Russia I saw. France uh it's looking to drop the US. dollar Saudi Arabia and Iran they just. made a deal they're dropping the US. dollar India is part of bricks uh Brazil. announced to drop the US dollar. Argentina wants to drop the US dollar. and it looks like we've been weaponizing.
U.S currency so much that now. it's becoming a trend that people don't. want the currency weaponized against. them and. more and more and more people are. starting to drop the US dollar. this is coming from China China and. Russia are working together. China produces I can't remember how much. of our power grid. um. so 200 Transformers you said it's.
actually 300 300 yeah the number 300 300. Transformers come from China all they. need to do is take out nine Transformers. and and right now we have a wide open. Southern border where we already know. there are people from all over the world. flooding into this country why wouldn't. China send in a couple of operatives to. take out nine substations and kill our. power grid.
right before they hit Taiwan I mean it. just seems. I mean. if they didn't do it it wouldn't make. any sense why wouldn't they it would be. it's so vulnerable and it's so easy just. to send a couple of people across a wide. open border that seems like half the. country doesn't want to secure. and and take out. nine Transformers. I think it is so eminent and I'm with.
you Sean in terms of uh. China has plans to go after Taiwan and. they will do it before the end of the. administration so that's only a year and. a half away yeah and it's it's coming. and so why not frankly I think an. aircraft carrier is going to be taken. out and then we're going to be. potentially in World War Three and when. because I think our aircraft carriers. are likely Sitting Ducks you know for. the sunburned missiles and that we will.
and taking out critical civilian. infrastructure like the power grid. and maybe they don't do it nationally. maybe they do it regionally or you know. a big city just to alert you know. America about where they are in terms of. a. hostile act as a. saying here's here's what you got you. know do you want us to do more.
we'll do it. how long would it take. let's say they did they were successful. and they took out a bunch of these. substations let's say they took out all. 300. how long would it take just to. replace. one of these gigantic Transformers and. the documentary you guys talk about. it you show how big these Transformers. are I mean they would have to remove. stop lights maybe even remove some. overpasses I mean this is no this isn't.
just a a delivery of a of a six by six. box generator this is this is a I mean. these these Transformers are the size of. buildings right. exactly there are hundreds of tons each. and therefore how long would it take if. there were three or four if they they. could probably get it done in a month or. so but if there are 50 or 200 then we're.
we're talking about chaos we're talking. about extreme chaos. let's move on to cyber attacks. so cyber attacks so Jennifer granholm is. the Secretary of Energy under Joe Biden. currently so she was asked on a Sunday. morning talk show about if our.
adversaries are currently in the grid. and therefore could shut down our power. grid and she responded affirmatively so. there's something called. malware or Trojan Horse software and. essentially it could be this malware can. be laying in weight latent and ready to. go to be signaled Senator Angus King you.
know had a tirade in a congressional. committee talking about this saying that. we're at war that our adversaries are in. the grid and therefore here we have two. major uh public officials responding. that this is a case right now and for. these 300 Chinese. Transformers that have been provided to.
us because they're cheaper. in my opinion uh in China Chi has talked. about how they are at war with the. United States essentially they consider. us the number one enemy exactly they. consider us the number one enemy and so. cyber attacks thousands of daily cyber. attacks. thousands of them of at least attempted. attacks are happening daily there is no. this is what really gets me there is no.
regulated protection to remove any of. this malware or Trojan Horse software. that there or that they're putting into. these Transformers there's there's. literally no oversight uh. the next geopolitical conflict will. likely be in the form of a cyber war and. they are using. another uh mind-blowing thing so they. are using Ukraine as basically a testing.
ground on shutting power grids down. using this malware. we think that's certainly the case now I. have not seen anything you know we. mentioned in the movie about. 2015 2016. this is before the Ukrainian. War uh that there were three major cyber. attacks against uh the Ukraine and there. was conjecture that you know came from.
ukrainians that said that uh we were. probably the test case for this now. what's happened in the last uh year and. a half that Putin has been fighting you. know a. uh kinetic war against Ukraine and we. know they've gone after the power grid. and frankly Ukraine is probably less.
sensitive than we are because they have. lesser you know less current uh. technology and more analog technology. and less digital electronics and. therefore that makes you know them a. little bit less vulnerable than our. systems they're more digital and more. advanced. so you're telling me that Ukraine has a.
more sophisticated power system than the. United States no I'm I'm saying actually. less sophisticated in terms of older and. less but in this case it's it. they have more stability more stability. sometimes older is better because it's. more analog and less digital and. therefore less likely to be uh. susceptible to malware.
Etc. so if this malware let's say let's say. there's. let's say there's you said there's 300. Transformers from China there's no. regulation that says they need to. inspect these from malware or Trojan. horses. so I think it would be. safe to assume all 300 of these. Transformers have something inside of. them that China can control.
uh from from a long ways away what how. easy would it be if they are all through. all of them are infected any of them are. infected with the smaller or trojan. horse is it literally just the push of a. button. thank you. I'm not you know a cyber technology. expert like that but from what I. understand you know it's real possible. yes it's simple yeah yeah it's simple to. take it out yeah if those are installed.
yeah yeah if they found any if has. anybody inspected any of these. Transformers or or. so actually it hit the news where a. major you know high voltage Transformer. was uh inspected you know by the energy. department and by some of our labs and. because there was suspicion and it was. not put into the grid but then it's uh.
nothing has ever come out publicly and. so it's been top secret but we don't. know but I have a feeling again our. government is not being completely. forthcoming to us they're not going to. tell us oh by the way you know we found. out all our Chinese Tran you know this. Chinese Transformer has. uh all this malware in it uh but they.
certainly could have come out and said. oh we inspected it it's all fine and. they certainly haven't said that. so well I mean the government is I think. if it was clean then they probably would. have uh released it I mean the. government doesn't they don't want to. embarrass themselves and so I'm sure. that's why it's why it's. why it's classified because they don't. want to report that yeah this is. infected I mean it's just. if it was clean there would be no reason.
not to report it yeah but um. man. very. very alarming. let's talk about. the electromagnetic pulse or EMP attack. so electromagnetic pulse. is essentially comes from a blast of a.
nuclear detonation in the atmosphere and. a blast creates these gamma waves and so. essentially the blast which would occur. between 20 miles and 200 miles in. altitude and essentially the higher it. is the more expansive the blast if it's. 20 miles it's a expanse like this and.
essentially this. these gamma waves are. it's called E1 you know from a physics. term and what's interesting I'm going to. bring up lightning so lightning is. essentially E2. and so we protect our computers in our. house and our you know high-end TVs with. surge protectors correct because we want. to protect against E2 okay so what we're.
talking about here is E1 pulses so this. E1 pulse just like an E2 lightning you. know can wipe out Electronics so it will. wipe out Transformers it will wipe out. our cell phones it will wipe out you. know any highly sensitive Electronics so. what we have here is we need to protect.
against these E1 pulses and that can be. done just like surge protectors are done. for E2 for lightning it can be done for. E1 and there is technology that can be. provided on the front end of our. substations to be able to protect our. sensitive electronics for our. Transformers and that's what we're. arguing for and one of the things that.
we're doing with this movie is this is. not just scare porn where there's no. options available where we just have to. cower in a corner and just you know just. pray to God that we're protected there. is something we can do we can provide. there's technology available Faraday. cages surge arresters that can be. utilized you know highly physics.
oriented technology that will help. protect our substations and Transformers. is any of that being utilized at all uh. not really there has been some. technology that's been shown to the. utilities. Siemens and Center Point Energy actually. developed something called cyprotec you. know which is a device that would help. protect our substations it doesn't.
necessarily protect completely from the. pulse but it was shown to utilities and. the utilities essentially you know gave. it a death ear. the Russians the Chinese and the. Iranians have verified that their War. plans their first move for the United. States would be an EMP attack the U.S. electrical group would not survive a. massive EMP deck today even a weather. balloon. interesting 20 miles above the Earth can.
be destructive to the sensitive. electrical infrastructure an open. Southern border foreign Nationals are. crossing with no paper paperwork or. records. and. and you know so far August we've talked. about is the is an Airborne EMP. which. how I do know that we are close to. having the technology maybe we may. already have it uh where we would have. the kind of like the Iron Dome over the.
entire the United States which is. basically a an energy field. like a bubble over the entire United. States you know do you know anything. about that. no and unfortunately I I have no. knowledge of that I don't know how what. the altitude of that is. um but I do I mean the purpose of it. would be to stop in in EMP and nuclear. any kind of missile coming in to hit the. United States however if it detonates.
above that threshold I don't know if it. would be effective at all and and and. and and. disseminating the energy waves but. but there's another kind of EMP. a briefcase CMP which would be much. easier and and. to get into the country undetected. especially with the southern border of. wide open the way it is. so with a briefcase EMP is is it's still.
creating this E1 pulses and you know as. you mentioned a terrorist can carry it. in like a small you know briefcase and. could be outside these key critical. substations you know of which there are. nine that you know at critical junctures. and. our adversaries have you know top. scientists and strategists and. electromagnetic pulse experts and you.
know it's it's not that difficult I. don't think to figure out and we're. certainly not going to announce where. those substations are but uh this is a. Potential Threat as well I mean I want. everybody that's listening to think. about I mean we all we drive by them. all the time. maybe several times a day you see these. little out stations and what what is the. protection that they have they have a. chain link fence and maybe maybe some.
barbed wire on top of the chain link. fence they're out they're everywhere. right you see them all over the place. I've never. I've never seen one guarded not once. I've I've never heard of one being. guarded I mean they're just they're just. out there in the open I mean just. sitting there waiting to be attacked. exactly so what happened in Metcalf.
California was they did it put more uh. secure wall around it but again there's. no roof or a drone could come in on top. and uh. I think there is a cause looking at. critical junctures you know that. potentially we have you know guards or. this certainly ought to be looked at and. talked about let's take a quick break.
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and let's get it going. all right David so we've gone through. three of the vulnerabilities or threat. vectors we got one more geomagnetic. disturbance basically a natural EMP one. thing that I did wanted to say I think. we may have already covered this but. these so that would be a natural threat. but the previous three are all are all. from our adversaries and I just want to.
reiterate between the years of 2010 and. 2020 there have been upwards of 900. documented attacks on our power grid 900. yes so those are physical attacks I. think that's through uh actually 2022. that's that's just physical attacks. that's not even cyber attacks yes that's. physical attacks yeah. how is there any more that have been. effective other than the Medcalf. California one.
there has been one in Arizona that uh. actually well we saw what happened in. North Carolina just recently and so that. just happened you know a few months ago. what happened in North Carolina knocked. out uh I believe 45. 000 households for at least two or three. days uh that was in the news I didn't. hear about this yeah it was Within.
probably. January February of this year and then. there were stories about in. Oregon and Washington there were a. number of other attacks that had been. not disclosed but then after the North. Carolina attack it was in the news that. there were several attacks in Oregon and. Washington State so so can you repeat so. in North Carolina this year yes and. January February time frame there was a.
physical attack on the power grid that. left how many people without power 45. 000 households without power so that's. basically an entire city. uh yes what what was the attack the FBI. is investigating a series of attacks on. U.S power grits in North Carolina. thousands were left without power for. days after gunfire damaged two. substations shots were also fired this. week near an energy facility in South. Carolina and recent attacks were. reported in Oregon and Washington state.
so they never quite found the. perpetrator there were rumors that. this was some kind of right-wing crazy. attack. but uh we never really got to the. complete bottom of it. okay so that so there was a physical. attack in North Carolina this year that. left 45 000 without power and uh they.
again have failed to report who it was. and the cause but they're just so. they're just making up yeah as the. media continues to do so well let's move. on into geomagnetic disturbance the. natural EMP so in the dock you guys talk. about the character Carrington event of. 1859 the most intense GMD in recorded. history can you talk about that a little. bit sure so this is called the.
Carrington event occurred in 1859 so. this is before we had very many. sophisticated Electronics but we had uh. telegraphs and so all the telegraph. lines were knocked out uh various. railroad lines were actually fried you. know in terms observe and we show some. pictures in our documentary about this. and it actually sent Telegraph operators.
to the hospital and this was a massive. attack and there is uh belief that if we. had an attack at that scale today it. would wipe out all our Transformers and. all our sophisticated Electronics. this caused fires electrical shocks to. wiped out all the telegraph stations. a storm of that magnitude today would. cause an internet apocalypse.
you cannot accurately accurately predict. when the next solar storm will be. um space space weather at this point is. wildly unpredictable is this even. is this is there anything we can do to. protect ourselves yes something like. that there's actually a lot that can be. done so earlier in our discussion I. talked about E1 you know which is EMP. and then I talked about E2 which is. lightning so this is actually E3 okay so.
it's considered natural EMP because it's. very similar in terms of the gamma waves. Etc but from what understands a slower. amplitude I believe and so there are. something called zero ground blockers. that can be put in you know outside. substations that will protect against. this E3 and in fact the protection for.
E3 for a geomagnetic disturbance is a. lot less costly than what the cost to. protect against E1 so it is forecasted. that it would cost as little as 10. billion dollars to protect the entire. nation from E3 and GMD now to talk a. little bit more about GMD this is also. considered a.
solar flare a solar storm another term. for it is a coronal mass ejection okay. and essentially what the sun is spitting. out you know enormous energy and this. these flares and so the question is when. it is coincides with the Earth orbit and. so that is a statistical.
problem or as a statistical phenomena. that we can. guess one will eventually occur will. coincide with the Earth's orbit we just. don't know when NASA has forecasted that. there will be a severe storm you know. potentially as big as the Carrington. event. the risk of that the statistical. probability of that is roughly 12.
percent every decade. 12 every decade. so if this happens with this just with I. mean. is this the entire globe or is this. whatever side of the globe is facing the. Sun how how does this go down I think it. has to do more with Hemisphere okay yeah. so it would be our you know Western. Hemisphere facing the Sun at that. particular time so whichever hemisphere. is facing the sun that's who's going to.
take it yeah and will the other side be. affected at all uh I tell you Sean. physics was my worst class in in high. school so we're getting outside my. bandwidth a little there but I should. know that but I appreciate the honesty. yeah I really do appreciate the honesty. so. getting back to. what do you think the. most imminent threat could be out of out.
of the four vectors here I mean. just going back to China you know our. adversaries that they've labeled us. Enemy Number One in their eyes and. they've just got so many angles on this. country and now now the power grid you. know I've been going on I've been going. on about this green movement and not. that I I don't think green energy would. be a good thing I don't think it works. and I think we found that out in Texas.
uh what was that last one or two winners. ago two winners and and. I was upset because it's already known. that they would produce all of the. batteries we talked about this last. night at dinner how China's investing in. all these lithium mines all around the. world they were there to negotiate with. the Taliban before we even pulled out of. there as we're pulling out. China's there to negotiate the lithium.
mines which would be our batteries for. all the green solar equipment they're. doing this in Mexico they're doing this. in Africa they're making our solar. panels they're supplying our batteries. they're supplying our wind turbines and. everything. well now I'm finding out they've been. supplying a lot of it all along and so. they've essentially they already have us. but. uh on top of that company's Chinese. companies are purchasing land near U.S.
military bases 700 million dollars worth. of Farmland bought near Grand Forks Air. Force Base North Dakota in 2019 Chinese. billionaire purchased land near Laughlin. Air Force Base in Texas that's the. largest pilot training facility that's. their Air Force's largest pilot training. facility they purchased 140 000 Acres. with an airstrip on that land and. foreign and uh there's.
I mean why are foreign companies. allowed to access the Texas power grid. is that is that still in this is from. 2019. okay so Greg Abbott signed the. Lone Star infrastructure protection act. to blocked the proposed Wind Farm plans. that the Chinese had so that's good. there's been a rise in number of Chinese. Nationals Crossing into the U.S through.
the southern border I mean. these guys are getting extremely. aggressive and. normally I would say overconfident but. looking at all the different sectors. that they have as they have our supply. chain they had coveted they have. they are paying off for politicians they. are settling Africa they are taking all. the lithium mines they are buying our. Farmland they I mean they.
am I missing something I got to be. missing something they literally have us. from every angle no we are incredibly. vulnerable we've let our guard down as. you and I were talking you know before. we started the interview it's. conservatives need to step up you know. Americans need to step up we realize. that we're at war with China and we have. the Taiwan staring Us in the face uh and. it's likely to happen in the next year. and a half I mean I feel like we're.
completely helpless and. the majority of the American population. doesn't even realize it yet. no we need to wake up that's why people. need to watch this documentary we need. to tell your friends but we have the. Phyllis Facility by which we can reach. out to our Regulators our legislators. our board of directors of our Public. Utilities but you know Sean. we are movers and shakers you you are.
disseminating this wisdom to your. listeners and viewers you know I'm. trying to wake people up with this film. I end this film on this tone of. positivity because I say we can do this. we've overcome a lot in the past we. build a national highway system we. overcame racial segregation we overcame. you know Nazi Germany with you know. converting our industrial economy to an.
arsenal of democracy and and we made. that happen and therefore we Americans. and we Patriots that are listeners and. viewers of your show we just need to. step up and we we can't get overly you. know comatose about this we've just got. to step up even greater and say we're. going to fix this before we get to how. we fix it let's talk about what what in. your opinion what is the most likely.
or imminent threat out of the floor of. these vectors I'd say Cyber attack and. I'd say it's Chinese Transformers Cyber. attack and Chinese Transformers that's. what I would think what about one thing. I didn't discuss is the political. weakness so. it sounds like the according to the. documentary about the Obama. Administration and the Trump. administration had put things in place. to kind of protect uh these Transformers. uh Trump signed an executive order while.
he was in office unfortunately the Biden. Administration is neglected to address. the power grid crisis and whatever Trump. put in place is now falling apart UK and. Israel have appointed a person to. oversee their power grids U.S has done. nothing and the U.S does not have direct. authority over the civilian. infrastructure so how how. when we get to the point where we talk. about how we're going to get this how.
we're going to get these. politicians to start to enact. bills and and and and and and and. legal stuff to to to force these. companies to protect our grid a little. bit longer how would we combat all of. the money coming from. these power corporations they're gonna. they're gonna send in the lobbyists. they're going to pay off all of these. politicians we see it all that all of.
our politicians are paid off all of them. so how are we going to protect ourselves. from a utility company that literally. has an endless bank account because we. all need power they're never going to go. out of business. um. how do we combat that. so we need to take this movie and move. it into a movement and therefore it. needs to be we we need to wake up you. know gen xers we need to wake up Baby.
Boomers and we all need to tell our. friends we need to write these letters. we'll get more into that in a second but. it uh. this can be fixed there is technology as. we've talked about that can prevent this. and we just need to we need a better. regulatory system because as we. mentioned before there's been regulatory. capture we need to amend the federal. power act to be able to get narc the.
North American electricity reliability. Corporation out of the way you know. because they're self-regulating we need. to embarrass these utilities and let. them know that we need to you know put. in the infrastructure and one of the. terms for this is hardened our grid to. protect our grid we need to protect our. grid against all hazards you mentioned. about the UK and Israel we mentioned. that in the film the UK and Israel both.
have. what we call a grid Czar almost you know. responsible to the president and. American people saying we will protect. this grid when you think about. electricity being the most second most. important component after air I mean. this needs to be protected and this. needs to be top priority. what are some things that people can do. I don't think there's very many people.
left that have any confidence in the US. government at this point right. um we spoke about that last night in. fact my personal opinion is they already. know it's over and they're ripping the. wiring out of the walls and trying to. get every last dollar in their Bob gets. before this thing goes up what are some. things that folks can do. just to. prepare their families for something. like this that's coming down the line if. it happens yeah so we intentionally. didn't take a civil defense you know uh.
approach to this film it's kind of left. you know silent in terms of when you see. how severe this might be and you're. sitting around your breakfast table with. your spouse and your kids you've got to. think what are we going to do and you. better have some extra food you should. have a generator you should potentially. have a bolt hole you know where you can. go where you have you know friends and.
family around you you should have a plan. uh you should think about this because. the risk is high and I know this is. Politically Incorrect to talk about. people think you're a tin foil hat kind. of guy if you think that but how Reliant. can we be on this U.S government frankly. you know when you see the threats and. when you watch this movie and you're. going to say. holy smokes we better protect ourselves.
and therefore you you need to think. outside the box you need to think about. 50 years ago we were more self-reliant. we we didn't rely you know 100 on Colin. ubereats or you know calling Amazon to. get our food I mean a lot of us had. Gardens a lot of us could you know uh. could hunt Etc nowadays we've gotten.
soft and therefore we have to think. about getting better prepared and better. self-reliant frankly and we have to. saying I have is prepare for the worst. uh hope for the best leave God to the. rest. I have a saying too you can in one. hand and wish in the other and see which. one fills up first but. um but um.
you know I think it's important that. I don't think there are very many people. left at all that have any confidence in. the US government I mean it's just been. failing us time and time and time again. and it's getting worse and worse and. worse I would I would like to add just a. couple of things because I know people. people that watch this show are going to. want to take. um they're gonna they're gonna want to. take. this opportunity to start to prepare uh. right now and and I would say a couple.
of things that you need to have on hand. would be some type of a water filtration. system uh preferably a gravity fed water. filtration system uh some type of a. generator but on top of that some type. of a solar inverter uh that you can. recharge there's tons of these things. online now and they're getting better. and better and better by the day I would. get at least a couple of them I would. get a faraday bag to put those. generators in figure out what. Electronics you think you're actually. going to need the most.
maybe I'll maybe light Heat. because if the grid goes down there's. not going to be any there's not going to. be any heat and it's going to be. extremely cold in some places. um and I would put all of these these. important electronics that you think. that you might need into a faraday bag. to protect from an em people's. um. and and and another thing that people. never think about you know they always. think protection uh.
weapons things like this but and that is. uh a hundred percent yeah you need to be. able to protect yourself especially that. when this happens if it happens because. the desperation will kick in extremely. fast. um but another thing people don't think. about is tools you know tools that you. need to garden tools that you need to. board up your windows all this like the. power drills all that kind of stuff it's. not going to work anymore you know and. and so hand tools to be able to enable.
you to to. increase the infrastructure in your. house uh and protect against. the desperation of humanity that's. coming and um I think those are very. important things to think about and for. anybody that does think the tinfoil hat. thing you know time and time again tin. foil hat people are becoming uh. they're it's turning out that a lot of. these things are right and it's and it's.
not a tinfoil hat thing we see it. anytime there's a hurricane you see this. in in a very small capacity what we're. talking about is something that could. last. to the end of your lifetime yeah and and. then we saw it in Texas in February 2021. four minutes and 30 seconds away from a. total collapse of the gr of the grid the. short term was two to three days without. power that way that went to 200 deaths.
that uh brought 200 deaths long-term. outage one to two years that would equal. 10 million plus deaths there were 210. fatalities and an estimated 710 related. deaths. 8.7 million people had to boil their. water. August of 2003 New York City had a total. blackout. 55 million people lost power for two.
days the New York City Subways and. traffic came to a complete halt eight. U.S in southeast Canada uh eight U.S. states in southeast Canada were infected. New York Michigan Ohio Pennsylvania. Maryland New Jersey Massachusetts and. Connecticut uh were all affected so. anybody that's thinking that this is. this is uh the likelihood of this. happening is Slim it's already happening. right it's already happening we just. mentioned there were 900 there's been.
900. personal physical attacks on the grid in. it in what a 10-year period so this. isn't this isn't that far-fetched at all. in fact the likelihood especially with. China becoming more and more aggressive. towards the US and and. I don't know if manipulating is the. correct word but. I'm going to use it manipulating. different countries and Nations and and. even some of our allies uh to side with.
them to collapse the dollar and I mean. it's. it's just a matter of time you know it. is literally a matter of time. it's coming and this is certainly not. far-fetched and you know the film lays. out uh with some phenomenal experts so. we mentioned Angus King we mentioned uh. Jennifer granholm we also have uh. Newt Gingrich we have uh Ted Koppel is.
very very concerned about the potential. of a Cyber attack we have the vice. chairman of the joint Jesus staff who. just retired John heighten you know said. that yes we protected our. critical. missile systems and our Command control. centers from EMP but our critical. civilian infrastructure we haven't.
protected it at all and that we ought to. think about that one thing that I did. really appreciate about your documentary. is is the end and so now we can get to. how we fix this and. I'd like you to explain it but you. have really made it easy on the website. grid down power up just Google it it'll. take you right there but you really laid. out you you made it extremely easy for. people to get in touch with their with.
their. political figures and how to find them. and and you guys even have an email. that's already it's already written up. you just gotta hit the send button so. can you go into. sure so thanks for saying that so it's. griddownpowerup.com and you can watch. the complete movie there you also can. watch a 12-minute version which is a. highlights reel because sometimes people. want to schedule you know two weeks from.
Thursday before they can allocate 56. minutes and but you can really get the. Crux of this but under the participate. tab at the top on the right click on. that and you can write you can identify. your legislators regulators and members. of your boards of Directors for your. public utility. and so for you can put in your home.
address a few clicks to your mouse and. you will have a pre-written letter. pop-up for your state legislators lower. house Upper House your Congressman. your Governor your. adjutant general of your State's. national guard your FEMA emergency. director as well as your chairman of. your Public Utility Commission you can. do all that through a couple different. outreaches and you can have these.
letters written you can sign a petition. you can make a post to Facebook you can. actually have a phone call mechanism by. which your Skype or your phone will be. engaged you'll have the phone number you. click you'll be able to reach that. Congress person's office or state. legislators office office. we also have an outreached your ferc and.
nerc regulators. and so we've made this very very easy. you hear that everybody it's literally. just clicks just go to the website. do the clicks everything's done for you. get in touch with these people and and. and let's fix this damn problem I mean. this is. this is a nation ending event if this. happens it is the end of the world as.
you know it and for ninety percent of. you. you won't even be around. if it happens but um David I really. appreciate you coming out here and. sharing this information and and uh it's. I'm happy to jump on board and get this. out to as many people as possible I know. how imminent this threat is and and the. probability is extremely likely so I. just I just want to say I really. appreciate what you're doing and and uh. it's going to take people like you.
putting things aside and and and. producing stuff like this to wake people. up and and and and and inform the masses. of how. how important this is to protect our. grid well Sean uh thank you for that and. thanks for this opportunity to be in. front of your very intelligent astute. viewers and uh just I would urge them to. watch the film and then alert you know.
10 20 of your friends and then take. those Outreach mechanisms and let's. let's fix this so let's get it done. let's do it all the links will be linked. to uh below everybody go watch it it's. it's. an amazing documentary and uh very. alarming but we all need to watch it I. watched it three times so anyways David. best of luck to you. [Music].
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