Buck Sexton - Twitter Files, Dr. Fauci, Epstein, ChatGPT, Education System, and Title 42 | SRS #58

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without further ado. please welcome Buck Sexton to the Sean. Ryan Show. Buck Sexton welcome to the Sean Ryan. Show man dude is an honor to be here. thank you it's been a long time coming. yeah man I'm I'm a fan of the show it's. fun to do a show you're a fan of so. you've been a great work here thank you. I'm a huge fan of you guys too so let me. introduce you real quick American radio. host the follow-on you and Clay Travis.

to follow on for The Rush Limbaugh Show. political commentator podcaster writer. and former CIA intelligence officer uh. you're an analyst over there you had a. bachelor's degree in political science. you joined the CIA in 2005 and now. you're here I'm here it's quite a. journey so we got a lot to unpack today. I want to hit the Twitter files I've. heard all about them a lot of us don't. have time to dive into all that stuff. and read all that information I know you.

are spun up on it so let's dive into. that and recently there was the Epstein. Drop In The Wall Street Journal like to. cover some of that and then if we get to. it. which maybe we'll start with this title. 42 that's expiring here what in a week. May 11th title 42 is set to expire yeah. and then we'll get into some CIA stuff. sure and uh maybe what what's going on. with the bidens writing some badass. memos drinking some badass coffee we'll.

do it but uh everybody on this show gets. a gift. oh like for me I thought that's for the. audience thank you even you even me man. that's amazing and get a gift thank you. so much oh. vigilance Elite call me I mean I've been. hearing about these now I get to. actually taste them this is funny thank. you so much legal in all 50 states. you can take heart disease approved. thank you so much I appreciate that.

you're welcome but. um where do you want to start do you. want to start with the Twitter files do. you want to start with title 42 we could. we could do uh you you were far out by. the Twitter files thing I I am too I. just think it's interesting that. something that should be the biggest. story about the media within the General. Media ecosystem is almost entirely. ignored yeah right and we know why but. it's just fascinating this should be a. huge thing right this should be enormous. there should be Watergate which people.

talk about all the time now. um but because of the political. implications of it it is overwhelmingly. ignored yeah you know they claim to be a. balanced platform back in the day but. turns out 99 of the political donations. from a company want to uh Democrats so. you know what's fascinating if you step. back and look at the evolution of our. media. um and I actually I take it back to the.

very beginning can I do that I'm gonna. go I do like history a lot so I spend uh. far too much time in my life have spent. a lot of time wandering around I like. history books that are on sale on the. like little racks that no one else is. looking at in old dusty stores. uh but if you look at the origins of. American Media and journalism uh there. was always an understanding that it was. partisan it was for a purpose if you.

look at what the founding fathers dealt. with. newspapers were taking very explicit. political positions and whether it was. Federalist Anti-Federalists so on. aligned with an ideology right. even to the point where uh the American. Aurora for example in Philadelphia while. Washington George Washington's in his in. his first term is saying that he's a. Trader who wants to be king and this is. all going to some of the early debates. around the Constitution so the notion.

that we used to have this thing of an. objective media that was just presenting. you the facts that is actually the. initial disinformation of all this. that's not true that was never true. you get into the 20th century and you. get into the evolution of true mass. media right I mean yeah newspaper is. fine we got the printing press we get to. newspapers. um uh but once you have radio which is. what I what I do now obviously Mo it's. my primary uh day-to-day job. but then the evolution of television and.

later on the internet. there was a dominance established of it. of the narrative being now it was. Democrat but Democrats were different. obviously 50 years ago than they are now. but this whole notion of Journalism as. an objective almost a science. and that's something I'll return to as. well the people who want to control you. and want you to just shut up and listen. throughout certainly modern history look. at science we'll talk about this in the. context of coven but journalists were.

objective that's not really true. obviously we know that now and we know. it in part because of the evolution of. uh talk radio I now sit every day as in. the slot we say in the house that Rush. built with Clay Travis my co-host who's. awesome. um and and we do the best we can to. serve Russia's audience but Rush. Limbaugh some other talk radio hosts the. internet Fox News Drudge Report which. used to be amazing right did you were.

you ever a Drudge Report guy Drudge. Report was my home page starting from. when I was a you know William F Buckley. reading college kid you know like I was. I was all about the Drudge Report. so I bring all this up because you had. this break in the control of the. narrative. um where all of a sudden you had not. just alternative voices but powerful. alternative voices who whether it was. you know Bill Clinton's affair in the. case of uh The Drudge Report or. obviously all the things rushed out with.

um there was finally a little bit of a. counterbalance. and of course the left hated this the. left is authoritarian and I call them. commies for reasons we can get into they. hated this so that brings us to social. media I know we've done a whole. but what happened is the evil with the. evolution the early stages of the. internet finally it seemed like we were. approaching something like a balanced. playing field right everybody had a Blog. and everybody could you know voice their. opinions and some of the websites the. upstarts became very very popular.

but what we realized was that even in. this. massive information. I don't want to say information Warfare. space but it can be this massive. information superhighway of the internet. there are toll roads there are choke. points there are ways that you can. establish through what is effectively a. monopoly total information dominance. and I've been worried about this even. back in the time when I was in the CIA. as an analyst uh you know reading my. reports and doing my analyst things. because when you see the power you know.

there used to be CBS ABC NBC News there. used to be all these news entities so. Walter Cronkite says we're losing the. Vietnam war boom done we're losing right. that was perception now it wasn't really. that simple but there was a power that. they had that had ebbed away. the power that they have replaced that. with with the dominance of social media. platforms which are not just Democrat. aligned which are truly left-wing. evangelist run and operated which is.

what we had seen. far outstripped I think what they had. had let's say in the you know the 80s. going into the 90s or or at a previous. era because they set these things up. under the promise Twitter Facebook uh. YouTube go down the list right and. obviously Facebook owns Instagram so. same thing there they set them up on the. promise hey guys we're just you know. we're here to provide a platform for. free speech we're here for everybody. but in the back without people seeing.

with the algorithms a whole bunch of. things they were already shifting and. shaping the conversation shifting and. shaping the conversation. and it's almost more pernicious right. because at least if you're reading the. New York Times you're reading the New. York Times. if you're Googling something you're. saying hey I think I think this. politician's lying to me and you go into. Google and you try to find and it just. doesn't show up or something shows up. that even says oh no that's not true or. like here's a fact check that shows he. didn't what's more what's more damaging. to public discourse into the pursuit of.

Truth so that brings me all the way to. Twitter and I just think that's a. necessary so you're saying that's always. been imbalanced oh absolutely and it's. always been in balanced where. Democrats are pretty much on top it it. was so it was always there what happened. um and I'll tell you how you know this. there was an evolution uh because you. know I got in so I got out of the I. think I officially like resigned from. the agency. 2010 maybe it was 2011 I don't even.

really remember now. um and I went into media right away. which is another thing we can talk about. how that happened it was kind of a you. know bolt of lightning wasn't the thing. I was planning on doing. but even early on I could tell because. there would be you could tell that there. were people who would get more traction. on the left than they should for certain. ideas and things you could look at what. would Trend you could tell there was an. editorial bias for sure on and Twitter's. a platform I know the best I've never. been a. like Facebook native like I've never.

really been deep into the Facebook. Instagram World. um you know I'm not a I'm not a. beautiful woman who can get a million. followers by posting selfies so. unfortunately which is I know a shock to. your audience so I've been much more of. a Twitter guy they were all along. um they were. skewing the playing field but what. happened. and you can tell us also because people. get suspended and it was and they.

originally it was you get suspended from. Twitter and the Jack Dorsey era if you. were conservative and then they would. and then there'd be an outcry like why. was this guy suspended for this and then. they'd say oh it was a mistake I don't. know if you if you were even paying. attention to this back and it used to be. oh no it was a mistake because people. started to say only conservatives are. getting banned only people on the right. only traditional view Americans however. you want to describe it they were the. only ones getting banned so they would. always say it was a mistake and then. they started to say it's a violation of. terms of service and then they started. to say well we don't even have to share.

our terms of service with you we just. decide and then it was like you're. banned and shut up right it was it was a. the slope was very slippery on this and. the the pivot point for them or or the. Tipping Point for them was Donald Trump. um because I was at CNN in 2015 2016 as. mostly to encounter terrorism analysis. on TV which was a fascinating thing at. CNN because I'm like yeah the jihadists. who were killing all of us like they're. bad guys we need to stop them they're.

the other CNN people who are like I. don't know maybe we should hear them out. I'm like uh it's like I think. interesting oh I've got a whole story. about that yeah I mean they were the the. uh left-wing lunacy at CNN was already. very present. um but on Trump getting back to the. Trump and the social media platforms and. the Twitter files. uh Trump was able to use social media in. a way that no one on the right in. politics had up to that point and his.

ability to go straight to the people. with the message was I think along with. a number of other factors why he was. able to create this political phenomenon. and win in 2016 and why it was such a. surprise you remember the New York Times. had that thing 97 chance on Election Day. that Hillary Clinton wins how could they. have missed it by that much how could. they get it so wrong Trump because of. his media background and and what he had. done in his life understood that if he.

could get around now he also would go. through the filters he loves to talk to. New York Times Maggie Haberman Etc but. he would be able to speak to people and. set The Narrative of the news honestly. set the agenda without having that. filter and that was a game changer and. so what happened is Dorsey Zuckerberg. work all of them started to get immense. social pressure from the activists. within within those different platforms. and and outside of them too right but.

the people that work for them and around. them and then these other you know. left-wing groups and the pressure was. how dare you you can never let this. happen again they are spreading. disinformation they are a threat to. democracy so now we have to openly. weaponize these the most powerful media. Platforms in existence which are the. social media platforms particularly. Google by the way which we can talk. about against one side of the political. aisle that so that's the evolution of it.

so Trump kind of broke it out in the. open so rewind it just real quick if. there was always an imbalance why do you. think. the balance never changes why why. haven't Republicans or conservative. donors or why haven't any why hasn't. this changed at all why aren't we. combating it well to be fair. um I think that's all that's always the. key question Elon. for example is changing it right now so. I would think that that's now it's a you.

know I one thing we debate on the on the. radio show I'm glad I talk about this we. want to celebrate our wins but it also. sometimes feels like we're always making. goal line stands right oh well you know. Facebook and and and Twitter kicked a. sitting president off the platform like. I think people have to remember even. foreign governments I usually don't you. know I usually don't give a [ __ ] what a. foreign government thinks anything going. on here but even the ones that didn't. like Trump and and would have been we're. like hold on a second guys. this he is the president you're not.

allowing him the access to what is at. least in perception of public utility I. know it's technically not these are. private platforms but there's a whole. other conversation about what about all. the regulation like I can't just go on. radio and say anything I want but on. social media they can do anything they. want. um so I do think that I think they. reached the point if you would ask me. that question even a couple of years ago. I would have said. it's a little bit like why is it that. there are more avowed marxists on the. faculties of top American colleges and.

universities than Republicans and it's. because. um to be a left leftists operate in the. ecosystem of. Academia of corporate America like an. invasive species right why do you have. to worry about an invasive species. because they don't want to coexist. there's no interest in that they want to. you know this is the fish that wants to. eat the other fish and only have this. kind of fish and that is it and that is. how they operate uh by the way in the.

federal government bureaucratic ranks as. well it's how they operated at the CIA. certainly on the analysts side to the. degree that they can it's how they. operate in find me a place where they. achieve dominance part of it is the. psychology of people on the right we. like to be we think of things like fair. play and principles and even more than. that on this conversation we'd like to. be left alone like we we're happy to do. our jobs right you know if I worked at a. lumber mill as a conservative I just. show up I want to do the best job I can.

at the lumber mill I you know I get I. get paid for my labor I go home if. you're of the mindset of these uh. activist lives you show up and you're. like you know where's. the you know the the trans agenda flag. on the door or like why isn't everyone. at the lumber mill sharing their. pronouns because this is the mentality. and I think we finally woken up to that. and we've certainly seen it on the. social media platforms now where they. just I mean they openly decided that the. Trump thing was the crossing of the. Rubicon in so many ways they openly.

decided that they were going to suppress. and that I mean I'm one of the loudest. critics of the. because it's it's been really damaging. what they've done to the reputation of. the CIA it's really damaging what. they've done to the intelligence. Community they have fundamentally you. know with with the hunter Biden laptop. which I know is part of the Twitter. files they have fundamentally undermined. those institutions and it will take. generations to repair it if it's even. repairable at this point. what do you think it was a.

do you think there was one particular. thing that Trump did why they banned. them because and the reason I'm asking. because there's been a lot of he always. here he was inciting violence he was. inciting violence but you know. then you have all these other heads of. the states Iran Nigeria Ethiopia the. Twitter did not delete these tweets and. here's some of them. um. here's here's a tweet Israel is a.

cancerous tumor. and they need to be eradicated and. removed. the there's there's a bunch of these. there's an important Maxim. um I mean I've referred to this as as. uh wartime conservatism people will say. they'll just say he knows what time it. is or she knows what time it is. um people will say that it's based uh. but the recognition if there's something.

that is. similar to uh what the left thinks woke. is whatever that is on the right. meaning that you are activated and. mobilized right the first thing everyone. has to understand is that the mindset of. the the leftist authoritarian. um. is that they do things differently for. different people or in different. circumstances because they can they do. not seek to be even-handed or principled.

they are not aspiring to. approach people with with fairness or. decency they treat the right and left. differently because they can't it is. pure power politics and so when you talk. about well how is it that you know the I. you know the the. Iranian mullahs and you know I'm sure I. don't know if if the Kim Dynasty if. they're really active on Twitter but. whoever it is how is it that they can.

continue to tweet on the sitting. president isn't because they don't. really care about the Iranian mullah. because he doesn't threaten their power. here and they don't really care about. human rights either they care about. Donald Trump because he stands in the. way of what they're trying to accomplish. and the power they're trying to seize so. the destruction of whatever they're. espousing in terms of fairness balance. Equity that's the standard the the the. hypocrisy is the point I understand that.

the reason I'm bringing this up and that. that quote was from Iran and so I want. to read the whole quote I'm going to. read a couple of them just to sure yeah. go for it and we'll put screenshots of. the tweets on up. so this is from this is from Iran is. Israel is a malignant cancerous tumor in. the West Asia Asia region that has that. has to be removed and eradicated it is. possible it will happen not removed in. October of 2020 the former Malaysian.

prime minister said it was right from. Muslims to kill millions of French. people this tweet was removed but the. Prime Minister was not banned from. Twitter president of nigerity Nigeria. incited violence against Pro I'm going. to screw this up bow for up groups. Biafra yeah the separatist group there. yeah those of us in the fields for 30. months who went through the war we will. treat them in the language they.

understand Twitter deleted the Tweet but. didn't ban them in October 21. 2021 Twitter allowed Ethiopian Prime. Minister. abai Ahmed to call on citizens to take. up arms against the tigray region. Twitter allowed the Tweet to remain up. and did not ban that prime minister so. there's those are all inciting violence. that. Twitter didn't care about. the US dollar how many of you out there.

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I don't think. Trump had anything even close to. any of those tweets they're Liars that's. what you see they're liars and we all. know it now and everyone knows it now so. it's out in the open which is a good. thing there's no doubt about it and. that's why on the hunter Biden laptop. issue. I I was I was shouting about this from. the very beginning. because I mean I I worked for some I.

worked for Hayden who was CI director I. worked for morale when he was acting. director now I I was I wasn't you know. walking in another office every day. obviously but you know they were chain. of command I mean that's who ultimately. um as a DI analyst uh was at was at the. top of the hierarchy and we were. supposed to. have respect for them in at least in so. far as they really cared about the. mission and there was something more. than just Petty partisan nonsense going. on with them and after the.

um this whole phenomenon of the Twitter. files and everything is only possible. because Elon bought Twitter uh Elon. bought Twitter and and I think this is. this was because uh of a number of. things The Babylon B. um where you know Seth Dillon you've. ever seen the Babylon B stuff I do. they're great I mean they're doing. really fun stuff Babylon B guys are. doing a great job. um Seth got locked out of his Twitter. account and he and Elon know each other. and he's just like what do you mean and.

it was over Rachel Levine as man of the. year was basically the Tweet Rachel. Levine as you know is a transgender man. who was uh like an admiral in HHS or. something I forget you know Health and. Human Services and had been called woman. of the year which should be an insult to. any person who lives in reality because. this is neither a woman nor the woman of. the year but he got locked out of his. Twitter account because of that okay so. for the objective and I think this is. important to what we're saying about how. they're Liars for the objective. statement of fact Twitter destroyed his.

destroyed his account locked him out. forever and for different uh media. entities uh you know commentators. that can really hurt your business I. mean there's real consequences to this. it's not just like oh well now I can't. you know post on the local message board. or something it really matters it's. meaningful. so that then also brings the brings me. back to the um. the whole era of the de-platforming that. occurred. right around the 2020 election.

and. you had the uh 51 was it 50 I keep it's. 51 right former intelligence officials. who. signed something that they had to know. was false and moronic they hadn't seen. the laptop data I knew people who had. mirrored it and were offered it to CNN. offer he said hey guys here we go dive. through it find me the Russian. disinformation in here and also think.

about what a if the story wasn't true. leaving the laptop at the 100 mines guys. like he's a crackhead and he's a total. mess I mean the notion of him for. getting a laptop somewhere never picking. it up is completely credible. um let's talk about what was on that. laptop sure. uh I mean hunter Biden. so there's the there's a salacious stuff. that has made its way into the realm of. the you know New York Post front page.

and all this sort of stuff and then. um and to be clear there's people over. there who've done great reporting on a. Miranda Divine it's an awesome reporting. on it and she they were right they were. right on the hunterbind laptop and. deserve a tremendous amount of credit. but I think that because the salacious. stuff just sticks in the mind more you. know Hunter wearing uh a boa in his. tighty whities with a couple of hookers. you know you've seen this stuff too it's. just I mean the guy is really depraved I. mean he's a person who's really. um in need of of of serious assistance.

and there's the part of it that we're. just saying there's just that. interest in. someone who's in the state of collapse I. think or who is uh a public figure that. has messed up his life so much but then. there's the important stuff which I. think is what you know you're alluding. to. which is where was Hunter getting his. money from. right do you think all this stuff was a. cover-up for that they wanted to bring. kind of the sexual.

the sexual. whatever you want to call it the sexual. stuff up to kind of Breeze over the. important stuff in the media uh. challenge because even people who want. the real story of Hunter Biden and and. really the the corruption that the. Democrat Party completely allows and. encourages at the very highest level. whether it was the Clinton Foundation. which was clearly a pay for pay for play. scheme I'm on record when I was uh.

trying to you know fight commies over at. CNN on the air I mean I would say you. know what because they would talk about. the Clinton Foundation they would say. well it's a charity and I said well it's. not really when you're getting paid 800. 000 of speech and flying around the. world on private jets like you're not. really operating a charity right Bill. Clinton made 800 Grand from I think it. was a Russian back Bank was the most he. ever got paid for one speech they were. clearly peddling influence at least at. least the belief in the people writing. the checks that they were selling. influence and I said well what if I what.

if I'm in an elected office I used to. say this on the air. and uh my wife. were. um were all of a sudden a painter. and I'm not taking any money from. anybody but she's Selling paintings for. a million dollars a piece that's what. the market will bear that's what they go. into her Gallery they pay her a million. dollars. would that raise any eyebrows for. anybody because it's effectively what. the Clinton found. Hunter Biden's doing that. and they won't disclose who's buying.

these paintings I mean think about that. for a moment you come up with a. theoretical to show how crazy how. dishonest and how cynical all of this is. and it's just a matter of time before. they actually do the thing that you're. using as the example of how corrupt and. dishonest they are so he is making these. Finger Paintings or whatever they are. for fifty thousand dollars each everyone. can check that that's real the pre the. sitting president's son is doing that. but on the point of where he got his. money from and what's on the hunter. Biden laptop. um.

he wasn't getting paid by the Swiss. he wasn't getting checks from you know. the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in. Thailand or something I mean you know. maybe that would raise some eyebrows too. I don't he's getting it from China and. Ukraine. he was getting it from our biggest. adversary and he was getting it from a. country where his dad as vice president. was specifically head of the foreign. policy portfolio for the Obama. Administration in that country at a time. when that country was on the brink as it.

was and usaid and support was basically. live or die and Joe Biden is on video. bragging about how he fired the chief. corruption prosecutor in that country. like the worst this is what we'll talk. about this with Epstein too there are. conspiracy theorists and there are. coincidence theorists right everything. is a coincidence and everything with. Hunter bride and Hunter Biden and his. dad is supposed to be just a coincidence. this is where the money comes from this. is how it's being handled this is what's.

going on. how did the FBI get involved in all this. so. one thing that I think everybody has to. start to get. acclimated to or aware of better way of. saying it is. the. counter-terrorism apparatus that you and. I were familiar with. um. back in the day of the G watt right the. global war on terror.

and the the government agencies with all. of their resources and all their. personnel who are trying to find ways. uh to justify their their day-to-day. particularly on the you know the. civilian Intel agency side. that hasn't gone away. and a lot of the language. a lot of the bureaucratic approach that. was used in the global war on terror to. deal with you know Isis Al Qaeda Boko.

Haram al-shabab go down the list all. these different groups you're noticing. that there are domestic there are. domestic focuses now from FBI and all. the rest of them that mirror the. language the surveillance tactics the. even the some of the Threat Level and. concern I mean somehow we have. transitioned from. we're all. on the same page as a country that you.

know Bin Laden Al-Qaeda are a mortal. threat and are avowed enemies and we got. to just put aside some of the political. stuff for a while we take care of them. you fast forward 20 years what does the. counterterrorism apparatus of the United. States government say is the biggest. threat to this country right now and as. you well know it is. white nationalist white supremacist. right-wing. Republicans basically and that that's. they they connect these are not the same.

thing at all but they connect these. things purposefully and we are at a time. now when you know the FBI. um has at least at a at a senior level. and the intelligence agencies they have. chosen a side and the side is not with. the Constitution and the people the side. is with what I call the apparatus the. Machinery of the elites and their power. and how they run this country. um you asked how the FBI got involved.

the FBI. uh realized that the surveillance. capabilities of the social media. companies exceed anything that the. federal government is really able to do. because. people don't realize how easy it is for. the acts right it's it's one thing if. you think you're being watched maybe. you'll you know have a courier in. Afghanistan and it'll be on you know. you'll be riding a donkey across the. mountains because you don't want the. satellites to pick things up whatever.

but if one you think you have no reason. to be watching two you're on a. commercial platform that. shouldn't be just open to the whims of. the federal government to Snoop on. you'll be very free you'll share your. thoughts you'll talk to your buddies. you'll talk to your friends. well now. sharing your thoughts and buddies. sharing your thoughts with buddies and. friends about what you think happened in. an election or what happened in the. government I mean there this has just. happened too I mean this as we sit here. this is a new phenomenon.

they have established that having the. wrong beliefs and thoughts about an. election. and saying things about what you want to. happen or things should have happening. um is sedition which is basically. treason. so we are heading down a very dark. pathway with that and and it is the. train is no longer out in the distance. you know you're not just kind of hearing. the faint sounds of of the Train on the.

tracks uh it's you're feeling the rumble. now it is coming. um it's coming in this 2024 election I'm. deeply concerned about how this is going. to play out for all of us. um the fact that the FBI and the. intelligence agencies. have whether it was with Russia. collusion 100 botan laptop the Twitter. files uh they have become much more like. domestic intelligence services in other. countries. you know this what is the the fixation.

of domestic intelligence services around. the world it's not stopping the bad guy. from doing bad things it is regime. security keeping the people who pay us. in charge keeping the people who we. share our ideology with or our worldview. or whatever keeping them in charge that. is the primary you could say in some of. the western democracies hopefully that's. not true but in most of the world right. every crappy country you and I have ever. been to and you've been a lot more than. I have.

um that is what whatever the domestic. intelligence service does or the. intelligence service overall does that's. what they're first and foremost. concerned with so the FBI takes it as an. opportunity to get free and unfettered. access to really police. speech and thought and that is what was. going on here I mean they were looking. at information I mean we're talking take. it out of the terrorism context for a. second. there's a lot of stuff was about covid.

which coveted for me was it was a was a. massive I think. um covid is the biggest wake-up call. we've had in this country about how. quickly this place can go authoritarian. and it's not like we're through the. storm I think it's almost like a dry run. um. and uh it's one of the biggest political. Awakenings I've had. um honestly you know since the whole 911. era and everything that we saw and dealt. with there. um so you think kova was a dry run.

I think it's a dry run in terms of the. way what I call the apparatus was able. to. um make people do things that were. objectively worthless and even crazy. because they said so the foundation of a. totalitarian Society is the ability to. make people say affirm and even believe. lies this has always been the case the.

Soviets actually it's fascinating when. you go back and look at some of this. Lenin. wanted to create a new Soviet man and. that of course was going to be somebody. who was just a hundred percent devoted. to the Revolution 100 devoted to. whatever it is they wanted to say. and you know as we know the Soviet Union. became the. Evil Empire and immiserated hundreds of. millions of people around the world and. millions of people killed in purges and. all the rest of what we know from. history. Pavlov training the dogs.

conditioning you go back to the origins. of the Soviet system and Lenin himself. had a fascination with Ivan Pavlov why. well if you could condition the dogs in. this way. why can't we condition the people in. this way if you can rewire the circuitry. of animals to react to certain stimuli. and do exactly what you want them to. can't you then have the same thing. happen with human beings and this Lenin.

said. Lenin was a big fan of Pavlov even at a. time and it's complicated because of. course probably almost starved to death. because the Soviets were starving. everybody because the system was a mess. but later on they re-staffed him up gave. him he had hundreds of scientists and. there there was this there are still. people who argue we don't have full. records of it that there was a much more. clear. uh interest and even desire for. experimentation on controlling people.

um in a pavlovian fashion the way that. they controlled the or created the. conditioning selective conditioning and. uh in the dogs. and so when you want to have a. totalitarian Society you have to force. people to believe things that are untrue. that's the that's the Baseline of. everything right that's this is why. Souls I need sin is most important. exhortation is live not by lies well. Sean we're sitting here and you and I. both know if I walked into any Fortune.

500 company and sat down on the c-suite. and I was like we all can we all can. agree that like only women can get. pregnant right. Not Gonna Fly no can't say that I'm a. bat I'm a bad person. I'm a bad person if I say that I might. get kicked off Twitter if I say that and. so I think it's been a long project. that we saw with covid you had the union. of. mass media and mass hysteria and the.

results were. awful horrific. um we saw blatant violations of the. Constitution we saw the elevation of. science that was lunacy obviously I mean. when you sat there and thought about. things. and I I get a little frustrated because. I think even a lot of people on the. right ah I just don't want to I'm like. they made your kids depending on where. you are in New York mask up between.

bites outside sitting on the ground in. 30 degree weather they were abusing. children with the power of the state. and people want to forget about this who. lost their job over that Sean who's. going to jail who even lost their job. and elected office over that I mean you. have the lunatic governor of Michigan. kept your job The Lunatic governor of. California kept his job. I mean they like it these people like. some of them that's exactly right. some of them like to be ordered around. yeah there's a deep need that a lot of.

people have and some would even argue. it's a basic human condition of the way. that they fear choice they fear Freedom. they want order even at the expense of. it being authoritarian as in you just do. this because. we had half the country go along with. this at least half the country go along. with this and well at the beginning they. had over that over that I mean it took a. minute for people to realize what was. going on I mean look I I so I I met me a. minute to realize what was going on I.

met yeah absolutely I met with Donald. Trump in the Oval Office in May of 2020. at his request. and. you know I was in a media capacity it. was kind of funny because I was uh I did. a CIA I did a couple of CIA. um Deep dive briefings for bush in the. Oval Office I went in there as like a. CIA guy and I'm all I went in for those. briefings and it was all like you know. yes sir like Commander in Chief like I'm. here like I'm presenting you know you. know analysts we're like Ugh we're all. scared all the time. we're like oh no oh no he's looking at.

me weird. um but then I went in later and I walk. in and Trump's like Buck Sexton best. hair and television like I was like I'm. like I can't believe I'm in the Oval. Office for this this is you know and we. sat there and we talked uh we talked. about mostly um some of the stuff in the. Intel community in terms of at the top. level you know the concerns about the. Deep State some of what I'm talking. about now Trump was like I want to hear. I want to hear what you think about this. so we talked about that a little bit. um but then we got to the covet stuff.

and I just looked and I said sir you. know this so this is May of 2020 and I'm. just like he wasn't wearing a mask by. the way I wasn't wearing a mask we're. walking on the White House people are. like yeah so people knew right that was. already clear if you're reading the data. if you're living in reality uh you. already knew but I said sir you got to. promise me. um you know no more lockdowns. and uh and we shook hands also at that. point remember we're never going to. shake hands again people forget how. crazy you know I shook hands with Trump. and uh and he goes he goes oh no we're. not we're not doing any we're not doing.

any more lockdowns well what happened. unfortunately. is. I mean it's complicated because if you. had a Democrat president instead of. Donald Trump. I think we I think we would still be. not in a full lockdown phase but we. would be covered would have transformed. America even more than it already did. because it was the biggest opening for. True authoritarian power grab that this. country has seen certainly in my. lifetime. but he let it go to the states well the.

problem is now you have all these blue. States. and all these blue cities and these in. these even rent States. that are still acting like maniacs. and people weren't really protected from. him this is why look I moved from New. York to Florida I'm a Florida resident. now I moved around to sentences Florida. because of. people shouting at me you know as I was. walking through the lobby where I live. put your mask on I just want to look at. them like why are you insane what do you. not get. sitting down taking your mask off when.

you eat you're not but but wearing it. when you go to some things like this is. all virtue signaling this is all garbage. and anyone who is willing to Think. Through the situation themselves I think. came to that conclusion I didn't want to. get too far fueled from I mean didn't it. didn't it just come out a couple weeks. ago that the masks the bow The Sciences. is has been released that the max had. less than a 10 success rate of spreading. coven so fauci said that they work at. the margins of 10 in the group setting.

um fauci it's actually funny went to my. high school so he's like the most famous. alumni of my high school I don't think. so yeah I don't know maybe I'll get more. money than he does in the uh in the uh. celebrity lunch raffle or whatever they. raffle us off this year because people. have realized what a fraudius. um but uh so so the deal on masking. um masking was compliance training. masking was never really about it was. compliance training and it was a.

signaling mechanism be scared we're in a. pandemic you're obeying it was a. constant reminder because otherwise. people might have just started to be. like you know I'm living my life and. everything's pretty fine and you know. we're all going to go at some point. anyway I think conservatives in general. um. have. I think the conservative mindset has. more of a an understanding and. acceptance that we're all going to die. at some point and so they're less likely. to live with this sort of. um hysterical fear.

that that pervades all their beliefs. about everything whether it's climate. change or any number of things. but on the masking. so yeah I used to sit with people I. would try to walk them through this and. I would say I would say so why do we. mask on planes because I had people I. mean I had people that knew me growing. up in New York and they're reaching out. on this. um and why why do we mask on planes and. they'd say oh because you're in really. close proximity other people you realize. yeah but. you realize that you're you're pulling.

your mask up and down to drink you're. pulling mask up and down to eat you know. if I told you in the simplest terms to. go out into the rain but you're going to. wear a raincoat for. half the timer outside. you're wet like what's the what's the. point it makes no difference and it's. absurd and if it worked why hadn't. people been doing this before and and I. think unfortunately. um we got into what um. there's what is it Matthias Desmond. wrote the book on it more recently but. the original is uh a French a 19th.

century Frenchman Gustav Le Bon who. wrote. um the crowd and mass formation or mass. formation psychosis. and it's just people wanted to be herd. animals they wanted to be protected and. if you wore a mask you were a part of. the herd and that was the Baseline site. you know it goes back to Pavlov and all. that man that's the Baseline. psychological conditioning that was. underway. man let's can I can I actually can I can. I get fired up about just the uh the.

Twitter files thing for one second with. regarding Hunter Biden laptop okay. so I mean I I sit here. um and I know you've had a number of of. uh great Patriots and and former CIA. guys sit here. the CIA brand uh and I'd say the. intelligence Community brand has been. really unfairly. um. maligned and you know undermined by the. actions of some partisans at the very.

top of that bureaucracy I mean mentioned. some of them were my. you know chain of command at the top so. I'm slightly familiar with some of them. um but they became. unhinged because of Donald Trump and. that brings me to the hunter Biden. laptop. it's it's funny because they're supposed. to be disinformation experts and what. they did was. create this information they knew that. the laptop was probably real everyone. knew the laptop was probably real but.

they had a purpose they had a a mission. just like good little FSB officers would. don't ask any questions don't worry that. it's a lie it's game time for this. election Joe Biden is a you know a a. clown who on his best days uh isn't it's. an insult to the notion of the. presidency that this guy would be in. charge of anything. um Joe Biden might lose this election it. was very close people sometimes I think.

forget that when you actually look at. where it mattered with the states uh not. even getting into all the discussion. about what was done where and the way. things were rigged and all the rest of. it. um. but they knew their job was to use the. credibility that they had to have led. people at these institutions. um at these agencies agencies whereas. you know people have given their lives. for their country they've given. time with their kids they've given. marriages they've given everything to.

try to serve the mission and they. decided to use the credibility from the. very top level not some little nobody. from back in the day like me somebody. who was really senior in the process the. most senior people. they used The credibility of those. agencies and what was sacrificed by. people who did real work and put. themselves on the line. in order to propagate a lie to throw an. election. that is third world Banana Republic.

[ __ ] everybody knows it and and I. think that we have we enter this scary. time because when you have. a regime that does not feel Bound by. never mind traditions and conventions. but law that we're all supposed to agree. on which I do not think you have um with. the Democrat left and I have criticisms. of Republicans too and we can get into. some of that but when you have a regime. that does not feel Bound by tradition. and law and you have an intelligence.

service or an intelligence apparatus. that feels its primary mission is to the. regime and not to the people and not to. the Constitution really bad things can. happen and I do believe that is where we. are. I do too I 100 believe that. I mean. do you think there's any turning back. oh God I mean I I like to I like to. think that. uh there's always room for optimism and.

there's always hope that things can can. start to move in a in a better Direction. um here's here's my let me tell you my. kind of war game out the concern and. then maybe you and I can both come to. how this can get a lot better. um one of the biggest challenges we have. is I think as we get as things in this. country become. more tyrannical and I do believe that's. the appropriate word. and you can say oh but what about Trump.

one and then there's and Republicans in. this the agenda and the change continues. even when we win elections this is what. because of the seizure because of the. control of so many of the choke points. platforms. um levers of power within our society. politically and outside of the immediate. realm of Politics the agenda continues. and our notion of this as a country. Bound by the Constitution where the.

individual is the Paramount the. individual is the highest realm of. of uh of Freedom rights and the need to. protect from the state. um that is dwindling I think very very. rapidly. and I think that if you look at it on a. broader Spectrum instead of just. thinking oh well you know today is fine. yesterday was fine maybe tomorrow will. be great too. they've already indicted a president a. former president who's a sitting he is a.

likely next Republican candidate. they've indicted him on. the most absurd grounds imaginable if. you gather together. a bunch of law school students you get. in the products they come up with the. flimsiest. felony prosecution of a politician or of. a person you could I think that this. would win the prize right a payoff to a. porn star that was supposed to be.

labeled as a campaign expense it makes. no sense No One Believes this makes any. sense but they did it. and I've been saying along why do they. do it right people ask this question why. do they do it. and I say well because they are building. they're building to bigger things. against Trump and against the movement. um and I think you're going to see an. indictment coming from Georgia in the. summer I think given the incitement uh.

well the. sedition conspiracy to you know. conspiracy to commit sedition or. whatever the official Federal jargon may. be but they've got effectively sedition. or treason. charges on the books now against some of. the January 6 guys. and I think eventually they're going to. hit Trump with a. with a sedition charge effectively call. him a Trader and now for people who say. they can't.

really want to do that because of what. that would do to the country right I. mean now how are we different from one. of these hell holes where you know you. and your brothers in arms would have to. show up back in the day and like try to. stop everybody from just murdering each. other in the streets like how how. different is our political system really. over the long term from the political. system in those places. if we get to the point where the. one party's guy I mean this is what. happens in Russia right this is what. happens in countries that we we mock for. how you know absurd their system is you.

know this is uh what you see in like one. of the stands where they have elections. but it's 97 goes to the guy who happens. to control the secret police. um. they bring a a federal Insurrection. charge of some kind against Donald Trump. um and they finally. they finally see through the promise. that they've made to the Democrat base. starting all the way back in 2016 with. Russia collusion they have been.

conditioning. again. they have been conditioning their base. and their people in this country to be. open to the idea. of a president who is a traitor. and to believe that we have a president. who is a traitor now the people that. paid attention to Russia the people who. paid attention to the whole collusion. narrative they understand it's. propaganda it was lies it was a deep. State operation okay fine. they don't care about those people.

because they don't think they have to. um they think they'll have enough. to just finally silence the opposition. and and what do they really ultimately. want they want a one-party state. what do they have in California and look. I love California I'm not saying. California is the Soviet Union but what. do they have they have a one-party State. what do they think they can achieve in. this country. I think they believe they can achieve. nominally it's a democracy sure or a. republic. um but I think they believe they can. achieve a de facto when parties State. and the way to do it is to just.

completely destroy the existing. Republican Party by indicting and maybe. even imprisoning Donald Trump and. they'll feel good about themselves as. they do it because they've convinced. themselves that Donald Trump is a. traitor to his country even though the. Russia thing's a lie they don't believe. it's a lie. do you think they're going to indict. Biden. or Biden's son. because it's looking like in the media. they're going to go after him so.

so this is uh this is a great question. um generally speaking Democrats As We. Know. live by an entirely uh different set of. rules right that when they matter to the. party people say oh what about you know. some city councilman that was found with. you know a paper bag with 200 000 in it. or something he went away I'm like yeah. because they don't care because God. doesn't matter right if you matter to. the system if you matter to what they're. trying to achieve Hillary Clinton's a. perfect example of this I mean you know.

this. if if if I sit down with you I'm your. lawyer and you tell me hey man look. I just I kind of wanted to you know rock. out my own way when I was working with. the government and so I maybe have a. hundred TS documents just sitting on my. server right now I'd be like we need to. talk about a plea bargain to like make. sure you see your kids graduate from. college like it's you know it's bad news. right this is this is a bad situation. Hillary Clinton they just made the whole. thing go away they just made it go away. they didn't mean to no plea no nothing. right it just it was sort of so that's.

generally how it goes to the hunter. Biden question. um. hmm. I mean the guy has based on the fact. pattern we know committed. um serious and multiple Federal felonies. never mind I mean the drug use thing. sure but the stuff that really matters. is and it also wouldn't be past the. statute of limitations would be uh. the money laundering and tax evasion. um I think the way this gets handled and.

you know I hate making predictions. especially you know on a. show like this where a lot of people are. going to see it I think the way this. goes is he probably. they they go through the motions to make. it seem like he is subject to justice as. well but he gets absolute Kid Glove. treatment he he and will probably be. made to plead uh to take a plea uh. agreement. uh to something that will be you know. suspended he'll get a pre they'll.

suspend the sentence it'll be like a. prison sentence but he'll suspend the. sentence pending you know any other bad. behavior it'll pay some kind of a fine. and maybe he'll lose his law license. maybe he'll be a convicted felon but you. have to remember they've already got. this all they've already got this all. scored away. Hunter Biden is Joe Biden's son and the. media narrative around this is Joe Biden. has had a lot of personal and family. tragedy in his life. lost his wife in a car accident lost his. son to a brain tumor so who could blame.

him. for loving and supporting his only. remaining child this is what they're. going to say now there's obviously truth. in this and I do think that family bonds. are sacred in some. but they'll say that to excuse the fact. that they're then not going to look at. why was this guy getting paid millions. of dollars by fronts for the Chinese. Communist party why was this guy getting. paid you know whatever it was eighty. thousand dollars a month or seventy. thousand dollars a month by Ukrainian.

Energy company for his expertise on. something he knows nothing about I mean. hunter has expertise in freebasing. you're paying this guy for your. Ukrainian we all know why he's being. paid it couldn't be any more obvious. right but again why is he being paid oh. my God the uh the perception or reality. of access to his father and his father's. friends at the top of the Democrat. hierarchy by the way it's brilliant. I mean this is one this is one area. where conservatives we Republicans.

whatever we get our we get our asses. kicked we get our asses kicked the other. side figures out where can we get. maximum leverage and maximum power for. our efforts and our money. and they just go you know we sit around. we're like well what would what would. John Adams do like we have a very. different approach to these things like. we don't you know what would Reagan say. about this we're not we're not dialed in. uh the same way although I do think that. started to change in recent years. so.

with Hunter Biden I mean you think about. uh even just his his dad. they don't even have to have explicit. conversations about it but it can just. be hey Dad you know I'm doing. remember he's lied about knowing what. his son did as we know so he's already. on the record he lied so he knew more. than he said I'm sure he knew a lot more. but you know hey Dad I'm getting you. know paid really nicely. buy this company in Ukraine. that's all it takes. because then his dad what he's talking. to as he did I mean this is not. theoretical interacting with the.

Ukrainian authorities who are looking at. corruption because it's a wildly corrupt. country as We Know. it's well. focus on This Not That focus on this. company not that company and Joe's. standing there effectively writing the. checks for the US government the whole. time it's brilliant it's like uh. you know the Evil Genius of our. civilizational destruction George Soros. nobody had ever thought. to just put money into district attorney.

races in places where they don't live. where they maybe have spent no time just. because they realize that that is a weak. seam in the system there's no oversight. a prosecutor can effectively nullify. whatever loss he or she wants and can. turn a place into Anarchy and there's. almost not unless a governor is going to. remove that person or the mayor is going. to fire them. um and that doesn't happen in Democrat. Enclave so that's that's not really a. worry there's really no oversight of the.

decision-making process and it's not a. lot of money I mean you look at the tens. of millions Sorrows put into these. places and if you're if your idea is. to create a fertile ground for. at least an ideological revolution in. America and the transformation of this. country into something other than that. which it is. destroying Law and Order through. radicalizing Pro through pushing for. these radicalized prosecutors is uh I.

mean this is like you know low-tech High. outcome stuff or low-cost High outcome. stuff this is easy easy to do. talking about the Deep state in in Soros. how do you think this is all. who's who's running this. how's this all intertwined I talk about. this as as the as the apparatus and. friends of mine joke they're like is it. kind of like the Matrix I'm like a. little bit except with you know. Communists um instead of machines. uh you know I think that. there's a there's one there's a belief.

in this country. that we have. um with the fall of the of the wall and. the collapse of the Soviets that we have. defeated. um collectivism right they're done. finished. put aside communist China which is. really a hybrid model it's not it's not. you know communist in the purely Marxist. sense it's obviously operating on market. economy but there's some other anyway. that's that's another part of the. conversation like what's going on in.

this country. um uh like there's been a collectivist. infiltration uh ideologically of the. most powerful institutions in America. even outside of elected office and and. that has been a long a decades-long. process. um where there are people who. are true believers who push this stuff. who push collectivism who push different. you know we're having conversations all. the time about well is it cultural. Marxism we should call it or wokism or.

what what where did this thing come from. and the reality is it's always been. there it's just gotten more powerful and. it's taken different Pathways and it has. historically in other places I mean. you know McCarthy I mean here's a. perfect example of this right people. throw on this term they say that's. McCarthyism it's like oh my gosh it's. like not as bad as like racism but. McCarthyism is another baptism right. McCarthy was mostly right. what he was saying was overwhelmingly. true it was certainly true about the.

high level penetrations of United States. government by. um not just communist sympathizers by by. the KGB this is very real. and we know this. um we know this because of the top. secret military project the uh the. Winona uh project Winona. um so there were communist infiltrations. of the United States government at. senior levels there were a lot of them. uh Whitaker Chambers wrote his book. witness about I bring this book up to.

conservatives all the time like you guys. have read witness right oh no I'm a. witness you know it's how. he was a communist in America helping. the Soviets. and realized what evil this was and. turned around and then devoted his life. to defeating this Menace. and people are this is this is sort of. this part of our history has all been. forgotten the fight against the. totalitarian collectivism of the 20th.

century that resulted in you know. tens of millions hundreds of millions of. deaths over the course of the of the. 20th century depending on how you want. to calculate it. um and you look at this and you say. do we really think this is just all gone. it just it just oh it's just sort of in. The Ether now no it's still very much. there and it goes to I mean I don't want. to get theological about it but I I do. think at some level it goes to the. existence of of evil.

um and in you know modern. um modern human human based societies. that's always something that we lose. sight of but it's very real. I think that if you're trying to. undermine transform and uh uh either you. know oftentimes do they want to destroy. or do they want to. um. do they want to transform it's always. both right those things go hand in hand. you have to destroy force or destroy. first before you can effectively. transform.

and I do think that there that there's. that process underway in our society so. you know I call it the apparatus because. I think it's a helpful term and it. Harkens back to the Soviet era when they. had you know apparatchics we have these. terms. why is it so possible that the second. most powerful country in the world in. the 20th century or you know let's say. from 19 uh you know 1945 on. um they fell into this despotism and. tyranny. and and this Darkness for decades but.

that couldn't happen here I asked people. this question I say why do you think. this couldn't happen here what is it. about this place oh we're America like. okay yeah I love this place right I I we. can talk about how much we love it. um you don't see the handwriting on the. wall for where all of this is going. and we have people now who are being at. least economically pressured and. certainly psychologically conditioned to. say things that are lies.

that we all know are untrue these are. falsehoods and you were to live your. life by these faucets you know a you. know if if you're and and by the way the. gender thing. they they I see all their games I know. how they do their propaganda I. understand how they're brainwashing and. information Warfare systems work one of. the things they love to do is to push as. hard as they can in an area until they. meet resistance and then you know what. they say.

what are you talking about we're not. doing that. we don't really want you know we don't. really want your kids to be changing in. a locker room with people who are you. know of the other gender you know we. don't want you know somebody out there. has a 14 year old daughter we don't want. her changing in locker room next to a. you know 30 year old guy who actually. says he's a woman as of a year we don't. want that. they absolutely do want that and they. keep doing it over and over again but. the moment everyone goes hold on hold on. a second this is. when you've got a problem here they go.

oh we don't you know this is why and. then they do why are you so focused on. this. are you are you a bigot. something wrong with you a bad person. turn it around right away classic. classic mind control tactics classic. techniques of uh. um of brainwashing. and brainwashing it comes from communism. by the way I mean the whole term of uh. brainwash is a term taken from Mandarin. Chinese for washed brain which is what. they which is what was said to have been.

done to uh prisoners of the Communist. Regime because some of them came out. they're like you know they were changed. right they were fundamentally changed. through the isolation torture stress. techniques. struggle sessions all of that which we. can talk more about so but they tell you. that these things aren't happening and. they actually are happening and everyone. needs to understand that and it's very. real. um that's that's kind of I'm. nobody seems to know where the head of. the snake is on this where is it coming.

from. it comes from within all of us. unfortunately it's the existence of evil. and humanity and of you know the devil. is the father of lies and I'm not. somebody who talks about. uh. church or faith or anything really very. much publicly but there is we are in a. faith we're entering a phase here in in. this country where I think. um.

I think that evil is getting its way. much more than any of us would have. anticipated even 20 or 30 years ago. um I think that if you're asking from a. systematic which I know is what you are. but I just I do think there's a broader. philosophical Point here I mean you know. I do too I've I've come to that. conclusion as well because nothing makes. sense yeah nothing makes any sense Sean. if I. if I told you that we would be able to.

um easily now do a quick Google search. and find political leaders. and activists. across the country. on the left who would say if you want to. abort a baby in the ninth month you know. the week that it is due there is nothing. wrong with that and in fact it's a. celebration of freedom. if I had told you that 20 years ago.

maybe even 10 years ago but 20 years ago. you would have said that's come on you. know safe legal and rare my body my. choice like you know people I'm not. saying you know what I mean like this. this would have been the you know this. would have been the opposition to it. right oh no no that's not true it is 100. now. Dogma Doctrine. speaking about what's true and not true. nine months you're a dad nine months to. baby right we all know it's a baby we. can talk about some of the other. um political realities of what should be.

the law on different states and. everything else but they openly say it's. not a baby and in fact we should. celebrate the termination of this life. as a Act of Freedom Janet Yellen the. treasury secretary I didn't think this. was a minor thing she says you know one. thing we could do to help the economy. and I'm paraphrasing but you know more. abortions. um what first of all it's not even it's. not even true it's not even accurate put. aside the humanity of it we actually. need and this is one of the things I. love I mean Elon Musk is a is a genius I. think I think that's fair to say I don't.

throw that term around a lot Mozart is a. genius and there's some people you know. Einstein is a genius I think Elon Musk. is a genius. um but he's so right on we don't we. don't have enough we're not you know we. don't have enough people we're not. making enough people right now in a lot. of parts of the world and a lot of and. really actually overall globally you. make the case we're just not having. enough children. um one of my regrets is I wish I'd. actually started I mean I'm married now. and we're hoping to start a family very. soon but I wish I had started a family. and I hadn't met the right person I wish. I started a family even sooner.

um but you know there was all this. propaganda all of this oh you know you. have to get all these things set what so. that you know so I can make VP somewhere. or something I mean all the thinking of. this I think is skewed anyway I don't. want to I'm sorry to divert because your. question is core it's key the apparatus. where is the top of it um and it's. something that I struggle with all the. time it's I mean it's just so well. organized everything falls into looking. at it from the outside everything seems. to fall into place just perfectly. everybody's in on this yeah there's a. you know and you keep referring to the.

left but there's also people on the. right that are part of this I mean Mitch. McConnell you know we know he's taking. oh the machinery for sure it's all. it's all intertwined so it's so well. organized that's that's what I can't. wrap my head around is nobody seems to. be able to. find what where's the source of this. where is it starting from and how is it. so well organized in in infiltrating. literally everything you know I think. um.

I think that there are there are a few. things I I want to deal with the. Republican part of it first. the Republicans who are a part of the. the Machinery of the elites right now. I know why they're doing it. they're doing it because they're cowards. they're doing it because it's in their. interest they're doing it because they. don't want the Heat and the death. threats and they don't want their you. know their wife to have someone throw. Chardonnay at her at the country club.

right I get it I know why now this isn't. to excuse it but this is to say. they're just. they're just succumbing to the pressure. and the incentives pressure and. incentives so people who are who are. roughly speaking ideologically on the. right who are people uh you know who use. the term control opposition or anything. along those lines right there it's the. incentive structure they want to be they. want that one editorial in the New York. Times about the the newfound respect you.

know oh this person they were you know. the pat on the head I always call the. pat on the head and it's sad I've. actually seen. um you know I have a rule and I I think. it's a good rule I will I do not trash. anyone who is my friend by name in the. media like I don't care what they do or. say I just I won't you know I want to. agree with them I won't lie my name I. won't trash them but I know people who. have gone over who have become these. like the Republicans who only want us to. all be Mitch McConnell and only have. nice things to say about the Democrats. right and it's sad I've seen it it's sad.

but they're just they need that next. contract they've got a mortgage they got. bills to pay and they're you know their. sense of purpose and the importance of. their beliefs is secondary so now we get. to the left. there's obviously that too right that's. another component of it so you think. it's the pressure on the right for sure. on on the right I think that the people. that go along with the system are. overwhelmingly just hoping to keep their. perks and Privileges and and just they.

just like the way things are as they are. is it growing or is it shrinking. I think that there has been the best. part about the Trump era has been the. Awakening on the right of the need to. think of this as a fight. I remember you know Republican politics. specifically going back to when I was. like this is surprising nobody was. probably watching me on your show I was. a you know college Republican I was like. director of recruiting I thought Reagan.

was awesome. but we always had this sense that the. highest good is like compromise and. triangulation and finding a way that. works but still somewhat respects the. Constitution right that was kind of a. and now we realize. these commies. want your eight-year-old to destroy his. or her gender while you're pretending. that white nationalism is the biggest.

terrorist threat in the country and. climate change is going to end the world. in 10 years and you know just you just. go down this list and you're like we I. can't. I'm not sitting here having some. negotiation over these issues with. normal people. there's a there's a radicalization and. notice when I say this the the the. Baseline feeling of people on the right. is maybe is that a little too much. there's a little too much talk radio. going on there.

notice how they say that you know we are. monsters constantly. We Are Monsters I sit here and I I. advocate on my radio show. every day for people to live in Freedom. and security and decency and I advocate. for people to be respectful and kind to. each other advocate for responsibility I. know. I mean I I look power corrupts I get. that but you know if you made me if you. made me the king of Florida which I. guess right now is Ron DeSantis people. would have clean streets good schools.

safe everything and yet the left thinks. that I'm a monster you know how is that. possible both of these things cannot be. true right someone has radicalized is my. point and I don't think it's us. I don't either. but do you think this is shrinking or is. it growing okay I think. everything is such a fit I think these. people are ripping the wiring out of the. walls because they know it's coming.

you know what's coming take me further. on that meaning that you think that they. think the ultimate Victory is in sight. or they think the backlash I think we're. collapsing oh and these banks are. failing we're talking about the debt. ceiling the the. everywhere you look in this country from. my standpoint with my morals my values. the way I was raised everything is. falling apart nothing makes sense What's. Up Is Down the the the the.

the sexualization of kids the you know. Vanderbilt University you know right. down the street from here was operating. on kids yeah I mean I think what was he. getting as young as eight years old yeah. eight years old. cut it off. rip the over he's out. you know I mean. the monsters by the way I mean that's. truly monstrous look the the the the. racism stuff is you know the BLM antifa.

um just Ukraine how China is. infiltrating this country in in so many. different. so many different aspects you know all. around I mean the supply chain covid. buying out for politicians the fentanyl. crisis behind our farmland. settling Africa I mean they're there to. take the lithium mines in Afghanistan. they're they're going to supply us with. our solar power I mean they they just. have so many different angles on us you. know and I you you add all of this stuff.

up together. and it's. so throughout the out the outcome isn't. going to be great so and so it makes me. wonder if these politicians know this is. happening that maybe a complete collapse. is coming and they're just they're. ripping the wiring out of the walls so I. have an additional pessimistic thought. and then I have an optimistic thought to. not necessarily balance it out but I'll. come in it both ways. the history of fiat currency for anybody.

who is uh is interested is both very. instructive and very depressing because. the history of fiat currency over a long. enough timeline is the history of uh. inflation corruption and collapse. find me a place right and there's people. you can even see in history you see the. um you know ancient Roman coins for. example right and they start out and. there is a certain silver Purity right.

there's a certain purity of these. they're silver coins there's value in. these I think this is the Denarius but I. might you know. you've got a lot of history folks who. are watching are going to be like no. it's not that but and then over time. over a series of I call it a couple of. centuries the coinage of the Roman. Empire just started to become crap. it went from you know 97 silver to you. know 70 silver and it keeps going down. and this is because they were trying to.

inflate away their debts. the destruction of the Venezuelan. economy is. such an important lesson and it's not. something that people pay enough. attention to in this country now it hits. a little bit closer to home for me. um just because I live in in South. Florida and. um I spend a lot of time with. Venezuelans Venezuelan. um refugees effectively from from that. state people don't even realize.

basically the entire top of the. Venezuelan government are. sanctioned Narco traffickers by the. treasury Department of this country and. just start with that they're you know. they're so they don't care I mean the. economy falls apart there's basically. bread lines there's the Maduro diet all. that they don't care they're they're. billionaires they're billionaires from. looting their own treasury but also. because they have their hands in the. Narco trafficking pile too I'm thinking. about that for a second right how are. you going to negotiate with these guys. they can operate with them.

Venezuela has the largest proven oil. reserves in the world. larger than Saudi Arabia now Venezuelan. crude is heavier and takes more. refinements of you know people argue. about whether it's like the best oil but. or you know the most efficient. um but it does have the largest proven. more reserves in the world how do you. take a country. with. um a rich and sophisticated culture and. the equivalent of a giant ATM machine. underground and destroy it so it is an. anarchic hellhole of murder looting.

theft rape all of it. just run an Economy based on social. justice. just run an Economy based on. collectivism put people in charge who. promise that the Richer the problem and. they'll take care of everything as long. as you Empower them to do whatever is. necessary to balance everything out. and just give them that just give them. that now who does that sound like in. this country who does that sound like. the destruction of the Venezuelan.

economy I think is. um a story that every American should. know and understand because the you know. AOC wing of the party which now is the. Vanguard people it's not The Fringe I. think that's an important distinction. right you're a military guy they are the. the tip of the spear the the left and. the Democrat Party are the ones look at. Joe Biden. Joe Biden old grandpa Joe we're supposed. to think that he's a guy that we can. trust Joe's been in politics a long time. Joe's a guy you know.

you know Joe he's like uh like a union. guy you know he's like oh old school. yeah he's Democrat for the working folks. it is all [ __ ]. the Biden White House is putting forward. executive orders guidance you name it. about uh transgender surgery for the. kids all in favor of it by the way. that's the Biden White House everybody. so just to to to completely dissolve. this notion like Joe Biden is a moderate. Joe Biden is a trojan horse he is a a.

false front for a party that if it could. get away with going they don't have the. power yet and I know that they're all. Republican Governors who are doing a. good job there is a Republican party. that still exists for something there is. Donald Trump there is Ron DeSantis there. are these individuals who are trying to. hold back the damn and fight in the ways. that they can. but if the Democrat Party could go. all in in the direction of Maduro they.

would absolutely do it because I I do. believe the the brainwashing has gotten. to that level of the base. um the affirmation of Lies is so. consistent and so widespread. and so the history of fiat currency is. one of eventual collapse historically. just because of inflation and the whims. of government and you look at even a. country not far from us how rapidly it. was the second wealthiest country in the. western Heavens people forget this. second wealthiest country in the western.

hemisphere in like the year 2000 let's. say something like that and now it's. just. complete mess collapse. um didn't take very long I didn't know. that yeah yeah per capita wealthiest per. capita yeah for a period of time. um it was uh is doing well I mean maybe. it was the third I don't know someone's. gonna fact check me on this one. but uh then on the but on the on the. positive side I would say. um as much as. you know the 1619 project likes to you. know malign the American founding and.

there's such an effort to undermine. whether it's the founding fathers. personally or the philosophy. um this place that we have that we have. been given this country uh America is. is truly the work of geniuses built on. principles that have been true not just. for our history but for all of human. history and that makes it durable. doesn't mean it's Invincible but it is. durable. the system that we have.

is built with redundancies the system. that we have is built with checks and. balances that are meant to keep us from. going off the cliff into the abyss. you know and it obviously we've had. times where it didn't work the way that. we had hoped it would but we have. managed to come back uh to where we are. with at least being the single greatest. and best hope of mankind so I think that. the hope and promise of America is the. thing that keeps us all going even as it. seems like the winds are being racked up.

by the other side which I do believe is. a fair I mean I I you know Trump came in. a once in a generation maybe once in a. lifetime a political phenomenon and. change the conversation I think in. really important ways. but I say this to people and they get. mad at me and I say this with love love. for the country and love for the people. that like me voted for Trump twice voted.

for the movement believe in it I'm like. you have to be honest with yourselves. what has changed in our favor that is. durable now they will say and this is. true. the Supreme Court. right that's a change that endures and. that's been phenomenal and the. overturning of Roe v Wade and Donald. Trump was the best most. um effective pro-life president that. we've ever had which is a remarkable. you know remarkable statement to be able. to make and I think it's a true one.

um but. they're hoping to pack the Supreme Court. the next time around guys that's kind of. what I mean it's not about Trump it's. about their understanding of the system. the outer limits of how they operate. you know people say what about the four. years of trump I sit here I say did we. solve the Border. did we solve the Border crisis. he he held it back right he attempted. down and started starting to get under. control we've had six million people. come into the country in less than three. years yeah right so we have to be honest.

with ourselves about about what's. happening where are the wins where the. losses where's the transformation. occurring and where now on the on the. positive side. um parents. um understanding what's going on one of. the there are a few really good things. that happen from covid right a few. things that I think. um mostly it was very depressing and. frightening for Humanity and America. specifically because people are such. sheep. um you know Lemmings don't really commit.

suicide right that's all if also people. always say this all the time so nothing. else people learn that from me there's. think about everyone believes they're. like why do Lemmings commit suicide they. don't it comes from some documentary the. whole thing is an urban legend but. anyway. um. people were like Lemmings in the popular. conception though right uh but anyway so. the. the uh. the other the only good thing about. covid was because of the zoom stuff at. home you know your kids aren't at the. age yet where this was you know really a. thing or your child I should say.

um but. because of the zoom lessons I had so. many people because I was doing I was. doing five hours a day during covet on. radio like I was just like you guys have. you guys have space on that station like. boom like I just wanted to be because. I needed my audience. because they were my sanity because they. were if you're listening to me you. understand what I'm telling you is this. is crazy what's going on here folks. having to stand six feet apart in line. outside to get into a grocery store. that's going to save your life but you. can jump on a plane but you can jump on. a plane. but but if you want to be a Lamborghini.

if you want a BLM Riot you go wild you. do what you want to do mask no mask Mass. Gathering who cares it was tyranny plain. and simple but and we saw and the. medical by the way I talked about the. intelligence professionals how the. intelligence Community has just been. wildly undermined now for in a way that. I I think it's going to take a very long. time to repair if they ever even try. medical profession oh. so many doctors or cowards so many.

doctors are cowards not all of them. some of them reaching out to me. supporting me I had I had a world-class. epidemiologist who I still is always off. the you know it was always without. attribution he was talking to me about. what was going on and what's real and. what's not you know people were willing. to talk to me just they're like I need. someone to know. the truth but I don't want and then you. say well why are they worried about. their own crew whatever they said well. I'm treating patients man if I lose my. license some of them they rely on me. like I have an obligation to them so.

some of them were in a really tough spot. I get that but the doctors who are doing. The Tick Tock dances and you know uh. mask up double mask appalling Communists. appalling. um but I just on the uh on the parental. involvement thing. um. people saw what their kids were being. taught. they saw the reality of the. and these are and many on the right say. this and they're so correct and it's so. important.

the Pipelines. for the madness that we see with these. you know state capital takeovers of. shrieking lunatics and you know the BLM. marches and the antifa maniacs and all. the pipelines to that. in this country are the school systems. in the University. and I do think that parents have. recognized now. I know they have because they call me. they tell me I mean you know we're. taking calls every day on the show. that if you let your kids get.

brainwash with this nonsense. it's not going to matter. it's not going to matter you can be. there you can be a great parent but if. they're being told this stuff and that. because what because what the schools do. is they train them to think their. parents are the problem. you know they train them so that when. some kid comes home from school says you. know Mommy Daddy like why you know. why do you tell me that like so and so. in my class isn't a pansexual. they use this terminology by the way for.

kids. I'm uncomfortable even telling you here. on the show I'm uncomfortable even. having a conversation because it is so. evil and obtuse and crazy. but go to the head of content at Disney. head of content at Disney on a company. call this is on video anyone can check. it. says she has a she has a. non-binary child and a pansexual child. I'm not what is pansexual I don't even.

know I had to Google it what is it it's. like you are all sexualities. your your heterosexual you're you're. it's like it's like it's like. it just means all all sexual so Sean. you're asking me a question for which. there's no real answer because it's a. fad it has no meaning. sexual it means you're you're straight. you're you're uh you know your your. genderqueer your bi you're you're like. everything all of it all of it it's.

effectively the personification of. lgbtqia Plus. how many people at home can even tell me. what. lgbtqia plus stands for that is the full. acronym and what is the Plus. now they're they're going to pieces. it's going to be pedophilia God isn't. that what it is. that's they're now making pedophilia. sexual gender or our sexual identity.

excuse me. oh my God. have you not heard about this no no I've. I've I've heard about this. um. you know there's a uh there's an acronym. that they will occasionally it'll pop up. in places. articles news articles and things you've. probably seen it they call it a minor. attracted person yes that's the PC term. that's the PC just heard about this from. somebody in California AP minor.

attracted person now. see I I always try. to never. I never want to exaggerate the evil that. they're doing because I want everyone to. really I need to say things that I. always believe are true to my audience. and for myself like I have to try to. live in the truth given what I do and. given what I think my my mission in life. is right like what I'm trying to. accomplish.

I want to believe. this is my honest assessment I want to. believe that that is not the next step. just because it is so evil. but I couldn't argue with somebody that. it logically does not seem to be the. next step you know what I mean I I I. would hope that that's not where the. left is taking it but if somebody were. to push me on this and say do you think. that's where this is going I would have.

to say yes that's where I think it's. going I I I'm and it's you know you sit. here and you say. look the whole. there's already a push towards well yeah. it's already appearing but the whole you. can't even talk about it on this. platform because it'll get censored I. just did one it's already censored. really did the preview preview was. censored did shorts little reels you. know the short social media reels. censored. I didn't even monetize the the the.

interview because I'm trying to avoid it. because it's important that that kind of. information yeah of course but there's. already a push there's a push in. California towards it. Newsome did this bill in 2020. do you know about this no what's the. bill the I'm gonna butcher this but the. judges it's in the judge's hands whether. they want to. they want to put these people on the sex. offenders list if it's 14 years of age. or older and as long as sex oral sex.

any kind of sex is consensual it's up to. the judge. whether that's a crime or not. now this is also spreading. it's either Minnesota or Wisconsin I. can't remember which one it's already. spread there's 17 different Democrats. voted for that. yeah it's it is the next push you know. it's that's going to be the next Bud. Light commercial here's what oh my God.

again I I just and you'll be forced. you'll be forced just like right now. you know with the with the stuff that we. don't agree with you'll be forced to. you'll be a bigot if you're not well I. mean I can if they're going to roll it. out I can tell you how they're going to. roll it out because this is how they. roll out everything it'll start with. it'll start with tolerance meaning. we need to just tolerate these people. we're not going to tolerate their. behavior we're not going to say it's. over the behavior is okay necessarily. but we need to just let them talk about. this one we need them to socialize these.

ideas more we need them to describe what. it is to be a minor attracted person we. need to take them out of the Shadows. Sean so that they can get the you know. more of the help and right you see. that's how it always that's how it. always goes because people are going to. say well that's it's just evil guys. you're just talking about evil right. like if there's a group of people that. are that are like you know I just like. to sadistically abuse uh dogs. we don't need to bring those people out. of the shadows and have a conversation. about it we need to eradicate that right.

but you're not but the the way they'll. roll it out is if they're going to roll. it out which again. I mean I hope they won't because you. know that you start to feel like what am. I even what is this country even you. know what am I defending if this is. something that's even being talked about. in a way that does you know has to be. considered as the as the direction we're. going in as a country or something. but. one of the big vulnerabilities. of. of uh conservatives of the right in this.

country. is. we are polite. and I know that sounds but you know we. are we we come from we like to be. respectful to people. and the left uses this they use this. I'll give you an example. just use the preferred pronouns. why is it such a big deal to you it'll. make this person feel better they've had. a really tough life they have this. difficult process and you hear these.

words right you hear these words as a. good as a person as a man of Honor as a. decent human being you hear when someone. is you know oh man you hear about the. the struggles and you go you know I I. don't wanna make someone's life harder. right I want everyone to be happy I want. everyone to be safe I want everyone to. you know reach their best version of. self find the life of purpose find a. life of service have a family all those. things. what happens though is you say all right. I'm I'm going to use the pronouns fast. forward a little bit. that six foot four guy with a penis.

who's swimming against those women in. the NCAA finals is not a man and if you. say it's a man you're a bad person. that is how they get you that is how it. happens that is how it unrolls in front. of your eyes. and so do you see what I mean about how. if they're going to do it. it's the frog in the Boiling Pot it's. the temperature going slowly they're. they're going to come out with it and. say. I mean here man if I Saturn I said to. you. let's go back let's go back to when you. were with the teams right if someone sat.

down and they're like hey man like. you hear Bud Light is going to roll out. a transgender influencer campaign where. some guy who doesn't act like a woman by. the way that's not true he doesn't act. like a woman. Sean it's an adult male who acts like a. 13 or 14 year old girl. caricature of a 13 or 14 year old girl. no woman acts like this dancing around. and doing all the things that you know. this is giving this is these little. bizarre outfits the whole thing it's. bizarre. it's mental illness the whole thing is.

crazy. but if I said you Bud Light is going to. run a campaign by the way you know bud. light's run by an agency guy. is it. former of course written up in the Daily. Mail. yeah warmer well. you know. um yeah I don't know I don't know if. he's gonna watch this or whatever but. you know he should reach out to me I. know I know who he should talk to to try. to you know handle these things. um you know and out of respect for our. former employer I'd be willing to uh you.

know to talk him through some of this. stuff if you if someone sat down with. you you're in the team since that that. some guy who's pretending to be a 14. year old girl is going to be the face of. a Bud Light ad you'd be like get get the. hell out of here. that just happened yeah so if this is. where we are how can I and now I know. people say there's the pushback and. everything okay yeah. why should there need to be push I mean. why should this even be a thing we have. to think about right how could. how could it get so crazy that we even. have to be mobilizing to stop this level.

of crazy well speaking of the Navy. and they're advertising oh God I'm gonna. get in trouble. of the uh the new drag recruiting. agenda that they're I didn't want I. don't watch the stuff I just can't yeah. it's a drag queen doing recruiting for. the Navy you're a Navy event see I. always I make fun of the CIA all day. because you know what I mean inside the. family. you're the teams man like what do you. when you see that what I'm curious I.

know it's you know I don't want to be. asking you the questions but uh. what do you think I just see that I. think this is this is everything that my. friends who were door kickers who I. looked up to as a as a little CIA guy. who was just trying to do my whatever. little part of things that I could I. mean dude I I always thought I thought. the. man I don't know if anybody tells you so. we can get us on the CIA stuff too like. I just thought all the GRS guys were. awesome like I thought these guys were. badasses and like I like to me that was. like the the real mission was what the.

you know what the Json guys were doing. and everything else and I just felt like. you know if I'm like the equipment. manager on this football team like. awesome you know whatever I can do. um but then I see this thing with the. Navy and all those guys that I knew and. some of them I still talked to and you. know are friends with whatever. I'm like the stuff they say is really. true like this place has lost its mind. we the military is our last. Fortress. it is our it is our last domain I think. for a lot of us who hearken to a. traditional America rooted Insanity in.

the Constitution and God. and when we see stuff like that happen. we're like is this really happening to. you guys too. oh yeah it's happening everywhere. foreign. I don't even I don't even I don't even. recognize. any of the places of government I used. to work I don't recognize the SEAL Teams. I don't recognize the Navy I don't. recognize the agency I don't I don't. they're not the same can we I mean I. want to get into this a little bit.

because people ask me they said given. the beliefs you have why. you know and I I've even been by people. who don't know me like they'll hit me. like oh look he's xcias you can't trust. them or something I'm like guys I was a. kid growing up in New York. 9 11 happens. and I just feel like. I want to help like this is my country I. love my city I love my country I have no. no one in my family military no nothing. in terms of you know guidance on that. you know it's not like I had an uncle. who was you know an SF Colonel and he.

could kind of talk me through it and I. just I was. um you know I was studying Arabic before. 9 11 in school just because I thought it. was interesting by the way I I think I. speak five words now like I have you. know I just took it in school but that. was enough at the time to. you know the recruiters got in you know. if you if you just had anything I had. some policy familiarity you know I was. studying uh midi's history and politics. in school and taking a little Arabic now. before 9 11 right so you can imagine 9. 11 happens and I want to go and and just.

do my part and I think okay. um. I grew up and the two authors that had. the most impact on me as a kid. um were Michael Crichton and Tom Clancy. you you ever read any Michael Crichton. or Tom Clancy oh yeah um uh. they were the first first of all that I. remember it I was probably fourth grade. where I liked reading those books more. than watching any TV show or you know I. got so into it that I would look for it.

and that was really important. um I know it sounds Pokey whatever but. you know to the degree you can get kids. at the youngest possible age to develop. a love of reading it is. it's such a it's been a godsend for me. and I think it's so important for. everybody else anyway. my only knowledge of any of this stuff. was from Reading like Tom Clancy books. honestly about the CIA I knew nothing I. knew no one would ever work there I was. heading to Wall Street basically as a. kid which again friend is watching this. they're like yeah he looks like you know. looks like some dude who's sitting there.

like buy so you know Hermes Thai French. cuffs you know it's like wow like what's. my what's my piece of the pie on this. deal you know and shouting and. everything I'm gonna look I mean we are. what we are right I mean I kind of grew. up uh in New York city grew up around. that. um and. so I I go to join this why do I go to. join the CIA I go to join the CI because. I figure. um that would be. the best usage of my skill set and also. I'd worked with some think tanks and so. people would always say like you know. you should consider joining the agency.

like you should there was it was put out. there so I wasn't coming out of totally. left field with it but uh-huh and so I. I applied I mean I just applied and I. ended up going to work there and we can. you know there's not a lot to say about. that like I feel like I'm sitting here. you know walking in the footsteps of. giants you've had from Special. Operations Community I'm gonna be like. yeah like I was writing this paper on uh. the assessment for you know this. province in Afghanistan and man let me. tell you the coordination negotiations.

with other authors were really intense. so you know but I'm happy to you know. talk about it a little bit I do have. some funny thoughts about the way that. uh different agency Personnel are. depicted in the pop culture. um but on a serious note I just feel. like uh. um. we all knew why we were there mm-hmm. there was this unspoken thing of. our country was attacked. we are at War.

we don't know where this is going but. you know there's there was a viciousness. and an insanity to our enemy that has to. be met with you know the full force of. of of our Republic and and of uh all the. people that we can muster together on. this and there was that unity and I will. tell you it. it was interesting because even during. the bush years when I was there you. could tell there were people who they. hated Bush so much. that. they weren't really.

they good news was bad news to them. about the war in rock specifically and. that's a that's a I know that's a harsh. thing to say but. um there were people in that CIA office. who I think were rooting for the surge. to fail for example not publicly but I. knew them right I was a I was a worker. bee I was you know a little a little. nobody in the bowels of Langley. um looking back on that can you see well. any reason why they'll be happy about. that.

um maybe Cheney. oh I mean they they Halliburton. yeah they they thought that um that the. Real Enemy was here at home. there were people working at certainly. in the state department which. unfortunately it was a communist nest of. infiltration. during the McCarthy years and there are. still some people that are commies I. mean they're not taking payment from uh. you know the Soviets anymore but there's. very left-wing radical ideology among. some again we're speaking about. organizations of thousands of people and.

I know they're like Kick-Ass former. Marines who also go to work at State and. they're great guys and they're Patriots. so just for the purposes of getting it. on the record I'm speaking about the. radicals Within These institutions. who unfortunately often find their way. to the top of the institution then they. control the institutional power right so. I'm not casting I have to deal this with. the FBI all the time I get these FBI. guys were like [ __ ] I love your show I. agree with you on everything I think. we're doing this phenomenal country why. are you bashing guys like me I'm like. I'm not bashing guys like you you're. locking up you know. uh you know Mafia guys and cartel.

members you know you're working on like. the Oklahoma field office I'm talking. about the guys in DC calling the shots. who are trying to throw presidential. elections and they're like all right you. know they get it right so. it's a different thing. um but uh you could already see the the. undermining of the mission it was more. important that that bush. and and the Republicans have their faces. kind of you know rubbed in the dirt over. Iraq I understand whatever then.

we actually start to see the progress. that we need to stabilize and get the. hell out of these places right that was. a I'm not saying that was a dominant. theme but there were people that were. very in my mind very much aligned with. that thinking um and it came out it came. across to me during different things. um and even in some of the briefings. with senior Democrat Personnel like. elected officials. members of Congress things like that. um it was clear that you know we'd show. them the uh like declining casualty.

figures in Iraq things like that and. some of them. people arguing this some of them were. disappointed. more important to be able to be in power. here at home and deal with the Enemy. here at home than whatever's going on. overseas and that was a change in my. under because I arrived CIA I'm like I I. just want to help like how can I do. whatever I can for this mission right. and um and like I said like we're just. like oh my God you know we thought we.

thought of the J I mean so I was an. analyst I know you've had case officers. here so you know case officers are. you know great at telling you how to. deal with your third ex-wife but. um you know I was I mean it's true right. so you know the case officers used to. give the uh us a little analysts a hard. time. um. but you know we looked at like the. whenever we went over to see you know I. went overseas a couple times as an. analyst you know short stuff nothing uh. nothing very interesting but you know we. looked at the Json guys as like.

I'm gonna just admitage like it's like. superheroes we're just like oh my God. like what these guys are doing like it's. amazing you know and like we thought it. was. it was just to even be you know in the. vicinity of their skill set and their. Devotion to Mission and what they were. doing for the country like. I'm like this is why this is why I. joined the CIA just just to try to even. be near this team just to just to do. whatever you know to you know to sit. there and you know brief the general.

about what's going on here so then he. whatever whatever it is that you know we. could do and I was obviously I mean I. did go into two Oval Office briefing so. I keep saying I was just kind of a. whatever but I ended up you know doing. well as an analyst because. um. I'm I'm a big nerd and I read a lot so. um I was good at that job but it was. apparent to me that that sense of like. we're all on the same team we're on the. same Mission we got these guys out and I. don't want to just talk to the JSI guys. it's obviously also you know the. National Guard guys doing amazing work.

and taking tremendous sacrifice but. anytime I got any static uh from. the from inside of Langley from people. who. first of all were very they were like. policing language they were police. language over you know. like Jihadi you know and other things. that we would refer to them like oh like. we you know don't. you know what I mean like there was a. little bit of you know let's not let's. not dehumanize all the zarkawi guys that.

quickly okay you know they have they. have families too and we're like oh so. this was happening a lot earlier than I. thought. oh yeah wow oh yeah I saw it happen I I. didn't see it that early yeah I mean. maybe I see the zarkali on the wall so. maybe like. you know move move the timeline but I'm. telling you when the Obama. Administration started and it was all. Iraq bad War Afghanistan good War by the. way how's that look now I mean when you. really think about it right. um. uh you know I think I think there is a.

strong argument uh you know against Iraq. obviously um a very strong one but I. think the way that Afghanistan was. handled I was when I was in Afghanistan. in 2010 again short stuff just in and. out of country nothing um nothing. remarkable or or even vaguely impressive. um but. I mean I did have access to like the. very the top level assessments and. intelligence that were going on there. and I just remember thinking to myself. like this is never gonna work. and all these other people in country. at the time.

on the Intel side we're like yeah this. is never gonna work. and then I'd go and I meet with these. military guys and again you gotta. remember I'm like a 20-something you. know now I'm a 41 year old man I even. have a little bit of air on my face you. know I don't look like a kid or just I. look like a kid who just got out of a. you know fraternity party when I joined. the CIA because basically because I did. because I did I was like 22 23 years old. and I was a kid and I just was like I. want to help I mean that was just my. attitude I was like I don't you know. I'll make money later on in life I just. want to find a way to help these guys.

but I go over there and I meet with you. know whether it was like an Oda team or. you know all the way up uh and I briefed. the four star and Country and stuff you. know this stuff sound when you're when. you're it's kind of funny when you're an. analyst like this stuff's like oh you. almost think of it as. like these resume bullets like I was. talking like this important person then. you get older you're like most of those. guys were Schmucks and didn't really. know anything and uh we're just kind of. covering their asses and you know but. when you're in it you know you there's. this sense that these people the adults.

are in charge right I'm a 20 something. year old kid you know who's there on. behalf of of the CIA and I'm talking to. you know these guys who are have real. responsibility and real Authority and. there's just this assumption like well. they must. they must be competent they must be. smart they must have the best interests. of their soldiers at heart. not necessarily some of them again some. of them are speaking in generalities but. not all of them and. I think the deal in Afghanistan.

was that. you know I saw this play out a lot. where you had uh you know the people who. were doing the fighting the people who. were. um in you know the village level. they were seeing what the reality was. and by the time it got up to. you know Brigade or whatever. um I never served so I don't even really. know the terminology very well I just. was you know. coming in there uh. like uh doing the analyst thing and.

what they would by the time it would get. up it would always be well you know. there are challenges but we're making. progress. looking back do you do you. I want to ask about what do you think. about Genie and and Halliburton. in the Iraq War oh man I got I mean I. was in college when that stuff was. breaking out so I got to go way back. here I mean Shannon Halliburton. look I think some of that stuff is. I think some of that is. um.

do you think that had anything to do. with us going in there no Cheney was a. he's gonna he's a rich guy he's a rich. guy anyway I don't think that. Halliburton stock price is pushing him. to push for a war I think that there. were neoconservative interventionists in. the U.S foreign policy establishment and. particularly at the top of the. Republican Party who really believed. that there would be this flowering of. democracy that they were wrong I mean. they were they got it wrong. um and there was a wmd thing which I.

mean I was in the Iraq office right in. the CIA. so I'm not when the wmd thing happened. but later on you can imagine though you. know everyone was kind of. oh. um that wasn't good so. I think uh. you're probably honestly you're probably. much more up to speed on Cheney and. Halliburton than I'm when I when I got. into things I'm not up to speed on it I. just know what I saw and what I saw was. every single thing in Country fuel.

points buildings Cooks cleaners. construction everything all Logistics. we're we're Halliburton everything. in both Afghanistan and Iraq. and at the time you know I was like you. I was. 20 22 23 24 years old. killing bad guys. kicking doors and doing what I want to. do defend the country fight for my. country take the fight to the enemy but.

now. you know 20 years later looking back. it makes me wonder so you know there are. you know there are things that I think I. know the things that I. want to know right. um a lot of what I've been talking about. are things that I believe obviously very. strongly in and have thought about my. one of my skill sets is is almost uh. almost an OCD level obsessive thinking. about things like I'll just keep. thinking about you know. complicated problem or an issue I'll.

just keep going to it keep going to it. and you know as an analyst or somebody. who's operating in that realm that can. as long as you directed toward that and. not you know did I leave the gas stove. on or something like it can be very. effective right you go wait did I did I. um but uh I I don't have. because I really just haven't even. thought about. um I focus more on Afghanistan and and. for obvious reasons uh in recent years. and what happened there and the. realities of it. um I mean I remember uh what was it Mike. shoyer remember Mike shoyer he wrote.

that book Imperial hubris uh he was an. agency guy and he used to do like Russia. Today and you know he would uh you know. obviously was X former formerly and he. wrote this book I I actually I think it. was Anonymous but uh the book was. Anonymous but here can I I need to check. this I need to get this right. I'm not sure if it was ever actually. attributed to him but anyway he's a. former agency guy and he was one of the. guys who would talk about how this would. be physical when I was in college. um how Afghanistan is just like where. it's just not going to work like we can. go there and kill bad guys we got to get.

out but this whole nation-building thing. of any kind no chance that he wrote that. book in like 2002 I think I mean it was. right at the very beginning. so uh you know I sit here and um. and I think about Afghanistan a lot and. and I think that you know people weren't. able to. if they it's not I I think that it's. just hard to get truth all the way up. the all the way up the system for. political reasons on Iraq. I wanted I would I would be open to.

knowing more about the beginnings of it. um. and how it all happened I mean I was a. when we invaded Iraq I was a junior in. college. so and it's kind of remarkable now in. retrospect like I see I see guys who are. my age when I showed up at Langley and. I'm like oh it's like a kid you know. what I mean I mean I'm 41. I still look. like a kid to a lot of people but I am. 41 so I'm getting old now. and uh. you know there was I just didn't know. anything right I just saw oh I just. wanted to I just wanted to help I didn't.

even like to use it I didn't want to say. like when people say thank you for you. know sometimes people say you know thank. you for your service or something. knowing that I'm CIA I mean I've never. never served in the military I'm just. like no I didn't start I tried to help. that's how I just thought of it like I'm. trying to help out you sir those guys. serve I'm helping I'm doing whatever I. can. um and it honestly felt like it wasn't. enough too that was one of the reasons. people ask why I left. um it kind of felt like. what am I you know what is my. what is my contribution here really.

you know I think the intelligence. agencies are really bloated really. bureaucratic. often lack a sense of mission eat their. own throw people under the bus for. nonsense bureaucratic [ __ ]. um you know the internal sort of. security. functionaries just constantly harass. people with no for no good reason and. the best the best people often leave. that was my experience every hard. charging legit you know person that you.

would think of as a CIA officer for my. office. um. who you would want in that job you know. obviously not not door kickers not not. war Fighters but doing what they were. doing. with few Exceptions there are a few. exceptions I'd say 75 percent of the. people that I thought were badass at. their job left 25 stayed but 75 left. yeah I think that's true and uh just. about all government entities I mean I I. believe it um and you know there just. needs to be a total rethink look I mean.

I I talked to Trump about whether. I'd be able to and willing to help him. and I know people think it's crazy. because I only spent what four or five. years in but uh go in and just like help. just clean up the mess in these places. there's institutional rot there is. ideological. um. ideologically I think it has gone astray. in a lot of ways in these places and. it's not just because I have friends who. are sending me like transgender. Awareness Day bulletins from Langley.

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thank you bubs Naturals for being a. sponsor of the Sean Ryan Show. all right Buck on the break we just got. back from the break and we were kind of. talking about how the cia's changed over. the years I know you have a lot to say. on this so let's dive you know I have. friends who are still in and they they. all know what I do and what I've done. when I got into. media and commentary very few people who.

were former. CIA were doing it there were a handful. of us but now it's like we're everywhere. right there's people all over the place. the. Security State is taking over the. airwaves. um and I but the ones that are still in. I would talk to them I would say. you know how is it over there and they. just give me their very general. assessments but. it's unsurprising I'm sure for everyone. to hear it's it's woke just like so much.

of the rest of the federal government is. at this point. in terms of policy and without the. war on terror or. whatever you want to call it to be the. primary mission. I think people are much more concerned. with some of the bureaucratic. both Naval gazing and uh activism that's. going on real concerns how bad is it. over there I mean I had a friend who was. going to come out and uh and he reached.

out to me and he said he was all fired. up to uh to come out I mean when I was. in the CIA and I actually created. something called the the frodometer. which was like a it was almost like a. poster we put up in the office and it. was like measuring Freedom you know I. was like Team America was like very high. and like Reagan and then you kind of go. down this and it was like it was a joke. right and. um and everyone thought it was pretty. funny I mean we just went it was like. you know board analyst guy stuff.

um and created the frodometer and or the. freedom meter some people called it uh. and I remember that like one of the sort. of more woke managers one day was like. you guys realize this is a Hatch Act. violation right. a what Hatch Act violation federal law. Hatch Act and I was like. it's a Hatch Act violation like. it's a [ __ ] joke like what are you. talking about. oh but because Reagan was on the poster. and like a positive I mean they were.

like. like Freedom fries were on there like. low I mean it was a joke it was a joke. yeah no sense of humor no sense of humor. allowed and but you know it wasn't it. was inappropriate it's that it was. um a violate it was a violation of law. because it was in a federal office and. it like had something positive to say. about a long dead Republican president. basically among all the other things. so I was aware of this. idea there right I was aware that this.

was a thing that there because everyone. was I mean when was it guys in my office. oh that would be like beginning of the. Obama Administration 2009. yeah that's when that went down yeah. 2009. um so and I remember that and I was like. and we took it down. we're like all right like whatever. you're like fine I don't want you know. because in a lot of these places. unfortunately some of the worst people. are the ones that do the internal. security stuff as you well know.

I mean you know I I just. uh it's like the worst dean of your high. school like the worst high school dean. imaginable but actually given the powers. of the federal government they never. find anybody who's actually doing. anything like they never actually stop. any of the leaks or any of the bad stuff. they just harass everyone who's actually. trying to do their job and be a good. person and wants to be a patriot and. serve they just annoy the [ __ ] out of. those people how fast do you think this. happened. what.

from oh from from the transformation. that I saw um. so I mean I wasn't there very long so. you'd have to say very long at all you'd. have to say it was rapid. um but I mean I can tell you that I. I. increasingly felt uncomfortable in that. place uh with the start of the you know. with the start of the Obama. Administration not because I wasn't. willing to serve the mission under a. Democrat president but just because. the uh you know it was almost like the.

attitude of a lot of people including. people in positions of influence in. there was you know. the idiot King is gone and now the. Glorious Monarch shall reign and I was. just it just was bizarre to me I was. like what are you guys even what are you. guys even talking about here like we're. in the Afghanistan war Obama has no idea. what the hell he's doing that we're. going to Surge but we're gonna we're. gonna end the surge before whatever say. when we're ending The Surge while we're. doing it I mean the whole thing was just. a complete mess. and. um I think you just started to see some.

of the elements of what now you'd call. the woke or or the more radical left. um assert asserting themselves inside. the institution. and I mean you can see this because some. of the people who are running it then. fast forward they're signing the hunter. Biden laptop is fake litter so I'm not. you know this isn't something that I've. just. come up with on my own out of nowhere. and there's no basis for this and you. had people that were running these. institutions became Liars became.

propagandists for the regime for the. collective for the apparatus. um and and did tremendous damage to it. and they're doing this the the decision. to politicize everything has been a long. time in the making but in this country. the move to politicize everything has. rapidly accelerated over the last. 15 years that's yeah I feel like it's. rapidly accelerated the last three years. well for sure I I think it's almost like.

uh you know a rolling a a boulder. rolling down the hill right like it. takes a little bit but now it's at it's. it's getting to its maximum velocity I. mean I was having a discussion about. this a couple days ago with somebody and. they they think that. they're losing all these agendas they. think that they're losing and that's why. it's going. full force we're not stopping we're just. going for cats out of the bag. they think the left thinks they're.

losing. oh man I wish whoever this is I could go. back and listen to some Sean Sean Ryan. podcast episodes here uh it was it. wasn't on the show I wasn't on the show. okay because I was gonna say I. um I think that they increasingly view. themselves as unconstrained by. the rules of the game as we've known. them for a very long time I I think that. the push doesn't come from a place of. their ideas are weak their arguments are. weak so that's always going to be a an. insecurity but in terms of their their.

power within the system I mean. they're they're about to indict again I. should say further indict. the Republican nominee for the. presidency they're going to try to take. him out using the judicial system as a. weapon and I do believe they're going to. try to lock him up in prison. and and that to me that's what you do. when you think that you can finish off. the opposition that's not what you do. when you're worried that you're not. going to be able to you know keep it all. going or keep it all going together they.

were saying that the agenda's been. accelerated out of desperation and it's. showing signs of desperation now and. then that only happens. when you're about to lose. well I hope that they're right because. they're right because that's that's. positive at least right I mean if that's. really the um if that's really the uh. you know the position that that they. find themselves in I just I would want. to push more on that by the way I love. optimistic narratives about where the. country's going I want to hear them all.

the time because I I live in this world. of. constantly facing what the what I think. the problems are and trying to trying to. help people who have you know their own. lives they're leading their jobs they're. doing their families are raising help. them understand exactly what's happening. in these different places and then get. people. um as. motivated and energized as I can to do. whatever they can in their own way to. tackle it right so that means you're. looking at a lot I'm looking at problems. in the country more than anything else I.

mean I can sit here and talk about a lot. of great things about America too as we. all could. um but so narratives that we're heading. in an optimistic Direction I'm certainly. very open to I just think the data. points indicate the opposite which is. that they are uh their ascendant and I. mean so here's an example right John. fetterman. senator from Pennsylvania. you can look at this and say he is so. it's so pathetic that they put forward. this guy who is neither intelligent nor.

charismatic nor accomplished or you know. kind of wears the slumpy hoodie. everywhere and the whole thing. um and and obviously had a major stroke. and was not really capable not really up. for doing the job that he was doing or. that he would be doing the Senate you. can say. that's a desperation move or you can say. that's a what the hell are you going to. do about it move. we can get away with this too what are. you gonna do what's your move now. and I tend to fall in the latter. category I tend to think that the.

brazenness doesn't come from desperation. from the left it comes from a sense that. they are empowered and getting what they. want I mean. that's that's how I see it I'm I'm very. similar to you I look at all the. problems and and I don't. as much as I hate to say this on on the. show I don't see a lot of positivity you. know and so yeah I'm looking for the. positive narrative so well and and. you're a lot more spun up on this than I. am uh. because of your show and everybody that.

you are around and and the access that. you have but I just wanted to hear what. you thought about that no sure no look. it's. I I love hearing uh points of view. that can make me feel more hopeful about. about the future of the country I think. it's necessary too um because you can. get yeah I mentioned uh Michael Crichton. before and he had an Insight this is the. for everyone I'm sure everyone knows but. just you know wrote Jurassic Park. created the show ER wrote Andromeda.

Strain Congo Rising Sun I mean you know. it was just like a bestseller machine. back in the 80s and 90s. um and he gave him interview once where. he said what you have to understand is. that. um. catastrophism always catastrophism is. always interesting and it goes beyond. interesting to people he means it. catches people's mindset catches their. attention he said that it's at a point. where if you want people at a. cocktail party or you know at a kind of. a setting to pay attention to you.

talk about you know catastrophism. because if you talk about how good. things are they'll get mad at you and I. wish that that was so interesting. because everyone's generally so focused. on the possibility of. collapse and destruction and you know. challenge your brain right we're we've. from an evolutionary standpoint we're. supposed to survive reproduce like. that's you know stay safe stay fed. reproduce like that's what we're. supposed to do and in our modern society. we don't really have it anymore so we. have this we have these uh you know the.

what is it the amygdala like the lizard. brain and we have these things that are. are honed to Keep Us Alive that instead. start focusing on you know oh like. what's going to happen with that next. promotion or what's going to happen with. climate change or people get all these. fixations. um but it's hard because if you try to. tell people that overall like I always. say I'm very optimistic about the. day-to-day I'm pessimistic about. future. so I don't know if that's I don't know. if that's uh helpful for people but I. mean I think you know you you make the.

most you can out of the relationships. and I've you know what you are in your. life to your community and the people. around you you take care of yours. you push you know you live in truth you. push for your your community your. country as much as you can and you know. no one knows what's going to happen in. 10 years no one know what's going to. happen in a year. I'm always looking for positivity too. and and you said earlier in the. interview that you think that. this. Marxism this extreme agenda a lot of.

it's coming from the educational system. yeah it's more and more I see people. yanking their kids out of school doing. homeschooling. put them in private school now with this. chat GPT stuff. people aren't writing papers anymore I. was just talking to somebody that goes. to Harvard. um Harvard Business School right now and. they were all it's a veteran they were. all excited to get in there they're in. an Ivy League school now and they're.

there and everybody there is having chat. GPT write their papers which in my mind. it seems like universities are going to. come become completely irrelevant. so. do you think there may be a shift now at. the same token they'll use AI to. manipulate the entire population I'm. sure but. more and more people are coming out of.

the educational institutions. do you think that could change so the. only challenge I ever showed every time. you ask me a question there's like 15. things that I want to say in response to. your questions because I think they they. probe right into you know a lot of areas. I want to go so let me let me try to I. need to be taking notes when you're. talking about these things. um I think that on the on the school. let's do schools and then University. okay so on the school front. um there is an Awakening about what is. being taught to children in schools. here's an example.

um. Governor to say no that's my home state. Governor so if anyone's what I want to. keep talking Governor Santos but I also. think he's been the model for. Republican Governors people can say. whatever they want about who their. favorite presidential candidate is I. don't I don't take positions in. Republican primaries for presidents just. I don't do it I don't take positions of. Republican primaries period uh because I. focus my you know fire on the enemy. um so to speak but uh. uh he he did a a press conference.

because they keep saying they're banning. books you'll hear this they're banning. books. they're not Banning books I mean if you. if you say that you know XXX films are. not to be in the school library for kids. to take out and watch at home you're not. Banning adult you know films or. pornography you're just saying we don't. want this in the school library right. this is very straightforward when they. say we don't want certain books in the. third grade curriculum or in the you. know grammar school library that's it's.

exactly the same thing but you'll notice. it's a big talking point on left they. say they ban books all the time it's not. true and they want to connect it in. people's minds to the Nazis burning. books I mean you know there's always. the left is much better at language than. we are there's something else we can. talk about if you want the left is much. better at branding via language. um but the DeSantis press conference. they had to pull away meaning the media. had to pull away from because he was. showing what was in these books.

I mean you're talking about you know I I. like again it's uncomfortably to. describe it but you're showing that you. know fellatio and you're showing you. know to children. in these books this is what's actually. it's actually in the book in the books. for third graders yeah for third graders. they have access to the media had to. pull away. from what DeSantis was showing in the. books that are allowed because they. couldn't air it Sean. and that was the whole Brilliance of the.

press conference oh you think we're. Banning books you can't even show your. adult audience what is in these books. that the Democrats want in these School. libraries by the way they don't say gay. Bill another thing in that state which. is not the don't say not actually a. don't say gay bill it's the parental. rights and education bill. but. um. Democrats by a majority of the State of. Florida were in favor of it which you. never heard about. because they they don't want their kids. being told a majority not all of them.

there are some who are you know my. eight-year-old is like a non-cisgender. you know whatever right that's very sad. and child abuse and it's a whole other. conversation. um but the Democrats in the State of. Florida the ones who were you know. seeing this with sanity to their credit. they were in favor of it so you know of. the bill the parental rights and. education bill so people are awake on. the school level and homeschooling but. but even more than that why allow this. why allow your local school board to be. run by Zealot lunatics well.

is this out of the media at all these. DeSantis showing these books because I'm. going to insert the clip on this episode. oh yeah it is oh yeah oh for sure yeah. you can find it yeah yeah yeah they they. pulled away from their press conference. because DeSantis held a press conference. where he's like look what's in these. books and so today we're going to be uh. exposing we've already exposed with that. video I think this idea of a book ban in. Florida that somehow they don't want. books in the library that's a hoax uh. and that's really uh a nasty hoax.

because it's a hoax in service of trying. to pollute and sexualize our children. crazy. this is the thing I think people you. know we all want to live our lives and. you can get desensitized to the level of. crazy that's out there right now just. because. there's desensitization but there's also. just you want to remove yourself from it. you're like how is this oh like I just. we can't even engage because somebody we. have to engage and parents are finding. out.

um and again speaking from the speaking. as a result of people I know who've. joined school boards I have a friend uh. Ryan gurdusky who now at a national. level is trying to push for more. involvement it's uh he's got a pack he. tries to push for more you know. conservative parents to get involved in. their school boards. um it's really important I mean what. your kids are being taught you know I I. it's sad I have people that will call on. the radio show and uh or usually. actually these are more emails you know. there's so many ways people reach out to. you reach out to me they'll email us say.

you know my. my 20 year old has come back from. Oberlin you know or Mizzou or you know. wherever uh Reed College Wesleyan my 20. year old has come back and thinks that I. thinks that my husband is like a. mansplaining you know white supremacist. troglodyte and I you know I'm not woke. enough and you know all this other stuff. like what do I do. and there's no good answer because at.

that point I mean the process has gone. so far along that if you weren't. building those values and really. building wisdom and virtue things that. no one even talks about anymore building. wisdom and virtue in your children at a. young age because that is their only. defense against this stuff later on the. reality is I think that some people are. too late on this and then there's the. school component. I mean look I know a ton of people into. business school I almost went to. business school I went to I went to the.

media instead and it was because I. didn't want to take out loans honestly I. was just like I just didn't want debt I. hate debt uh strategic debt is fine. right like buying properties that are an. asset but. student loan debt I didn't want it. um and I thought about business school. people have to understand that most. universities now. are a credentialing program where the. credential becomes less and less. valuable with each passing year. nobody cares.

no one has ever given me a job because. of where I went to school no one has. ever really cared I think about where I. went to school it's always just spent. about. hustle finding the right place the right. time maneuvering. being relentless. that's you know. um I gave a uh I gave a talk to my high. school actually this is when I was CIA. so they would still I used to get. invited to speak places. like at my schools they don't they don't. invite me anymore they they don't I'm.

like I'm toxic now that I host with Clay. the I mean maybe you know it's either. Hannity or you know us I mean we're. basically you know um 500 stations uh. you know each something like that you. know um but so it's one of the biggest. I'll say one of the biggest radio shows. in the country certainly in the top. three. um and uh. they wanted you know I don't get it in. my college I am dead do my school which. is kind of funny because I used to. invite and I actually uh I spoke with a.

seal a long time ago me and to see us. active CIA they let me go just talk. about national security stuff it's great. we got super wasted afterwards really. fun I'll give you the day after he's a. fun guy he was a couple years ahead of. me. um they don't invite me anymore but. anyway in high school because I'm a. right-wing extremist as you may no I'm a. right-wing extremist according to Media. definitions now and all the rest of it. um so my high school though I went to a. uh a place in New York City called Regis. which is a remarkable institution.

usually people you know no one cares. about anyone's High School right I think. this place is interesting just because. it's. it was the closest thing to a. meritocracy that I ever experienced in. education because it's a free school. it's a scholarship school you go for. free. and it's like a hundred thousand dollar. scholarship I mean it's a private school. where there's no tuition because. everyone in the Alumni network basically. donates. and it's funded that way there's an. original Grant from a wealthy family 100. years ago give or take or more than that. now and people funded so uh it's a. scholarship school and it was an intense.

place and I I I wouldn't even say I. enjoyed it but it was a good place for. me to be they invited me though to give. a talk on the Fly. um and just about uh to the seniors. about how to get jobs. and I remember and I I didn't prepare. anything I sort of stood in front of. them I was like so all of you guys. your school is top 10 nationally for. average SAT. you all were valedictorians of your. grade schools before you came here. you're all going off to you know Elite. colleges and I was like nobody really.

cares just so you know. yeah maybe you'll go to a really good. grad school after this you want to play. the system but I was like for a lot of. you guys. you're comp every every job you're going. to want you're competing against. 50 100 500 other people with 4.0 grade. average and went to a great school and. you know it's just. the and then when you add into this. um you know diversity and inclusion and. affirmative action and. you know Legacy stuff and uh you know.

whose uncle is. the senior vice president for whatever I. mean when you add all these things in. it's trench warfare out there man you. just got to figure out what you can do. so I think that changes the calculation. for a lot of people only certainly. changed my calculation I mean I know. plenty of people with mbas who shouldn't. have gotten mbas. do you think the AI stuff is gonna is. gonna alter universities and do you. think people are going to start I mean. it seems like AI is going to make a lot.

of occupations completely irrelevant. they're already saying attorneys are. going to become irrelevant Architects. are going to become irrelevant a lot of. medical professions are going to become. irrelevant. media might become irrelevant oh let's. not get crazy I hope it does we are. essential we are the ultimate essential. workers uh. you know what I'm saying oh I mean. everything everything can be replicated. now. well uh and there's another component of.

this too which is we've we've been. dealing with this point with you know. fake news and and propaganda that while. different in the delivery system is. generally. rooted in the messaging and the approach. with AI you can actually have the. fabrication of fact. meaning it's visually indistinguishable. between the real video of Congress and. so and so taking the bribe and you know. we're entering that era where the. ability to understand Truth Versus.

Falsehood and the ability to understand. what real disinformation is and and to. discern those things I think is. um incredibly important and and I'm not. even sure I think we're going to have to. evolve along with it because I mean it. was just a few years ago people like. well I think that's a deep fake and. everyone's like you know deep fake. whatever. no now there actually will be deep fakes. this will be your thing and even if it's. not. genuine uh as a deep fake being able to. say it I mean look what they did with.

the again the 100 buying laptop Bears. all the Hallmarks of. so you can say well I don't know if this. video is fake when it's real but it. Bears all the Hallmarks of AI generated. content. and that's all that it takes for a lot. of people to say you know what I don't. believe I don't believe it's real. so we're heading into a realm of. unreality that I think very few people. are prepared for and and how this. affects the university system. uh look most college most college.

education at this point is a uh a. four-year period of. you know for a lot of people socializing. maybe drinking and partying and doing. the bare minimum and having the most fun. they can with the idea that they'll get. serious about life afterwards not true. about everyone but true of most people. in most schools and increasingly I think. there's an understanding that. the skills you get from these schools. because the humanities have been so.

polluted with Marxist nonsense and. deconstruction of literature instead of. actually reading it and understanding it. you know Shakespeare didn't know. anything the professor that's telling. you what Shakespeare should have said or. why Shakespeare is a. misogynist you know white supremacist. radical whatever right that's what. you're you know being taught in a lot of. these places now just utter nonsense. so I think the whole university system. is uh I mean these are hedge funds that. are operating classes now that's what.

Harvard is it's a hedge fund that has. classes and there's so many ways to get. in that when someone tells me. they went to a school and I'm supposed. to think they're I'm supposed to think. that's impressive I do not I don't care. I don't know it could be. brilliant people go to these schools. brilliant people go to MIT and Harvard. and whatever morons go to them as well. that's a fact well I guess what I'm. asking Buck is do you think this could. be a turning point because where I feel. like in the last couple years we're. hitting a turning point where. parents are taking control of their kids.

education again yes like like this is a. little bit unveiled everything it it we. had a lot of bored people out there that. started diving into what the hell is. going on and uncovered all kinds of [ __ ]. in every sector right well. here in Williamson County I brought this. up on other shows that more and more and. more people are yanking their kids out. of both public and private schools and. homeschooling then you bring up to say.

aye then then we bring up the AI stuff. where I mean the. the paper the chat GPT is doing school. for. students which makes School. irrelevant at this point it's becoming. completely irrelevant the only thing. that's relevant anymore seems to be the. trades because nobody knows how to do. this [ __ ] anymore so and so when you had. said a lot of this. deep State markets marxisms this kind of.

stuff comes from the educational system. you know. Elementary School High School these kids. are starting to be yanked out parent a. lot of people are leaving states where. where the stuff is really relevant in. school and moving into to Red States. then you have this AI stuff with the. universities just like you were saying. as well nobody gives a [ __ ] what school. you want to anymore it doesn't matter I. don't look at it when I'm hiring. I could care less I just want to work.

ethic people that are proactive but know. what the [ __ ] they're doing you know and. and so what I'm asking do you think that. might be a turning point. I hope it is a turning point I think it. is a turning point it's early this is. how I I view it. parents are. getting involved in a way that we hadn't. seen before. at early stage education. and parents who I would consider.

traditionalists about education it's not. even not everything is in the right left. Paradigm or you know conservative and. liberal I mean it roughly approximates. that but people who are just saying I. don't want my kids being brainwashed. with with garbage nonsense like the. gender ideology stuff which is the huge. fight right now gender ideology the the. Florida bill was about third graders and. Below just think about that. who needs to teach gender ideology to a. first grader like what oh anyway that's. that's what I'm getting now it's that's. why people are pulling out of elementary.

schools and then the AI stuff is I'm I'm. talking about the university side. because I think so so the the elementary. school story I think overall in this. country is the momentum and the. trajectory spot is a positive one so. that's something that's where we get. into the hopeful side of things because. parents realize. you know people listening to this right. now. run for school board. you can do it and have an influence on. what a whole lot of kids are learning. how people ask how do I get involved.

um and it's just understanding that. process too I think can be really. interesting for people. um. so so that's so yes are we at Turning. Point yes Kobe was a big part of it. people are getting more involved. understanding what their kids are being. because if your kids get brainwashed. from kindergarten up through University. I mean good luck you know what I mean. they're your kids you're gonna stay with. them forever do whatever you can for. them but in terms of making them see the. world. right side up good luck. um so getting involved younger on the.

University side. uh yeah I think I think if if you could. short American universities in the stock. market you probably should. um because one the. so what they'll say about Ai and all. that stuff is for play any place that. wants to be elite the way around that. you know to be in the cognitive Elite to. be intellectually impressive. the way around that is. um you have to have in-person proctored. testing only and things like that right.

there are some ways I think for homework. like good luck with homework you're in a. you're in a different realm now you're. going to send kids home with a word. problem guess what. the word problem can be done by chat GPT. right you know you know how many cups of. water do we need before we fill the pail. kind of a thing that's not hard. um. but uh the the there's another issue. here. um and that is that universities no. longer they're coasting on the. reputation of elitism.

and they're coasting in the reputation. even in the non-elite schools of the. value of the four-year degree. and both of those things. the top schools and the value of the. four-year degree are crashing for people. who are really paying attention to know. what's going on. um a part of it. you see with the elimination in more and. more places at some of the most elite. schools of objective metrics for. admission and this is trying to get.

ahead of the Supreme Court decision that. will come out within the next uh six. weeks or so. that's going to uh I believe. declare affirmative action in uh State. schools unconstitutional. so I think that's going to happen so I'm. making a prediction on your show it'll. be a 5-4 decision most likely but or. maybe six three but it's going to be. declared unconstitutional so I think. that's interesting so they're getting. rid of objective metrics anyway. but the purpose of the university has. become as they've been become completely.

taken over by the left they're a. credentialing system and they're still. able to both indoctrinate and then. deploy the foot soldiers of the left. right so Harvard or Yale or wherever. they get I went to Amherst not as fancy. but you know it's okay. um they take these people they make sure. they believe certain things they take. people who believe them also the. emissions process to try to weed out you. know anyone who's like I love America or.

the Constitution not allowed. um and then they give them entree into. Goldman Sachs Mackenzie the whole thing. and people wonder well hold on a second. how did how did wokeness how does why. does Bud Light have the trans influencer. campaign or why does why is you know. Nike siding with the guy who's kneeling. at the games or all this stuff how does. this happen. they have created factories the of of. left-wing activism. that are tax advantaged that have.

billions and billions of dollars to. spend in a whole variety of ways and. then they send these kids off now young. adults and they know what they're. supposed to do and that's what they're. doing I mean do you think these. companies even care I mean what how much. didn't Bud Light just lose like 55 was. it 55 million I can't remember the exact. number so somebody could fact check me. and put in the comments but they they. lost a ton of money their sales are down. as we speak like 30 roughly which is you. know which is big money for them and. it's it's hitting their.

so this is this is complicated look it's. it's a it's a win. for the right because. up to this point the belief had been and. this was a really powerful thing the. left will boycott the right will just. suffer in silence it's always been the. belief in Corporate America it's been. the belief as long as you and I have. been alive Sean that if you do something. that upsets the libs they will mobilize. they'll be outside your corporate. headquarters they'll you know call your.

sponsors whatever and on the right we go. I just want to buy a hammer you know. what I mean like I just I just want to. buy a t-shirt I don't really care. that doesn't work anymore and this goes. to a concept that actually makes me. positive or makes me optimistic uh for. more of our optimism about the end of. the neutral space as a concept. when everything is politicized talking. about a neutral space just means your. site your seeding territory to the other. side because it's already. it's already happening there is no. neutral space here.

so when you see uh with Bud Light. it's a win because now they have to pay. they have to pay attention oh we can't. just do this. but. people will also probably point out in. the comments or whatever. um that they. uh. they have a lot of Brands it's a global. company I think the weather the storm. they could probably shut down Bud Light. as an independent brand if they wanted. to for a period of time and then the. company would still function remember. it's inbev the Brazilian company bought.

Anheuser-Busch and so it's a global. brand they own like Stella Artois and. they don't see you know dozens and I. can't even you know begin to name all. the things down. so it hurts them it doesn't hurt them. badly enough. probably not. that's again I I see the positive in. things but I also want to always be. honest with the facts I mean it worries. me because it's just encompassing. everything. it's it's encompassing Sports it's an. alcohol it's. entertainment it's media it's news it's.

it's department stores you've been to a. Target lately yeah we haven't we quit. going well I mean. it's funny actually my wife is what a. good Target but uh she loves it but I. was thinking of the target out in San. Francisco that's all on her Plexiglas. which is a whole nother talk we could. have about uh where crime has gone in. this country they've got all the all the. products yeah every product is locked. down but. um no I think corporate uh corporate. wokeness we we have on our side.

um. become aware of what's really happening. and started to do more about it which is. a positive thing but we're just at the. very beginning of the process of really. understanding this I mean I. I this is something I mean uh I think it. was maybe June of 2020. I went on a. Twitter tear. and I was just like look I gotta tell. everyone I'm paraphrasing myself here. but it was like 15 or 20 tweets and I. was like if we don't. if someone on the right doesn't just.

who's a billionaire doesn't just buy one. of these media platforms and just decide. that it is an Unsinkable aircraft. carrier of like free speech and Truth. like we are screwed. um and Rush Limbaugh actually read the. whole thing on his show when Rush was. doing his thing. um and so it went it went viral at the. time a little bit and it's funny because. like no one even remembers it I guess. now but like Elon Musk then did come. along and buy for what was it 40 some. odd billion dollars.

and now we finally have a foothold I. bring it up just because. you know there are a lot of people who. can do a lot whether it's on the. particularly on the corporate side. who they stand on the sidelines you know. they you know especially you have all. these guys who have amassed tremendous. wealth. and they don't want to deploy it in ways. that could help really save the country. because they don't want to get weird. looks at the golf course. what does that say about those. individuals and I mean I like to say.

this pretty openly now you know Elon. Musk was kind of a beloved inventor on. both sides who was doing amazing stuff. with with uh you know starlink and with. SpaceX and Tesla. and now oh he's like Public Enemy Number. One. because he wants there to be one social. media platform that's free speech but. there's a guy who actually cares how. many other people are there out there. who could hire. people who have been first of all. targeted by the woke mob but just in. general hire people who are.

conservatives uh Elevate people who. support what is true and right and good. in the country I just think there needs. to be a. a real mobilization of those who are in. positions to do more. I think you're right down I don't know. if it's going to happen I mean I'm an. optimist I sit here yeah I'm an optimist. yeah. let's move into. the Epstein stuff that just dropped.

short. director of CIA going to his town home. to have meetings. what would they be meeting about. the. the Epstein. story across the board. is one where the conspiracy theorists so. to speak. keep on looking like the ones that see.

what's really going on meaning that it. just gets you have to believe more and. more coincidences you have to believe. more and more of the official line even. though that doesn't really seem credible. um. I I. my my biggest question and so I I the. answer about the CIA guy is yeah so many. I mean Bill Clinton and this he wasn't. CI director I think he was a deputy. assistant secretary at state or. something at the time but now is the CI. director which was getting so much.

attention. um how did this guy I can't even keep a. list in my head of all of the super you. know private movie screenings with Woody. Allen. um you know had just had interactions. with all these people as a matter of. public record we know this. uh how did he manage. to ingratiate himself with all these. individuals and how is it that nobody. stopped to think. we don't know first of all some of them.

were hanging out with them after he was. already. a sex criminal. yeah and that's a bit by the way you. know you have to remember these are. people for whom protecting their. reputations generally. is one of their most important. one of the most important considerations. right your politician your public figure. you're going to hang out with a known. sexual predator. you're gonna have no interest in finding. you're just going to hang out with some. guy who's in some 80 million dollar. mansion in Manhattan and owns a private. island off the you know U.S Virgin.

Islands and owns a mansion in Palm Beach. you're gonna hang out with them why. what is she going to do for you how did. he get I mean Bill Gates spent a lot of. time with him and you look at the. figures. if you believe that there was like a an. Illuminati you know that there was a a. globalist elite. that has similar aims and a similar view. of humanity and is looking for total. control. those people a lot of them were in the.

Epstein orbit. I've never heard a good explanation for. how that all came together. um and I I would I can I there are some. questions that I have about the Epstein. thing that I put out there that I think. are. So and I've heard I've heard from. you know again these are people without. attribution I've heard people who have. made very specific allegations I mean. these are very connected very powerful. people like names that everybody every.

single person watching this or listening. to this would know that made very. specific allegations about Epstein but. they lack the proof. they lack the proof and they're not. going to put themselves in a position. not about Epstein but about. the other. the people involved so so how is it that. we all understand. that Epstein's operating. a. we still know where his money really. came from they say it was consulting or. something but that's not. that's not credible right we know that.

he was effectively like given a house I. think by uh what is it the founder of um. well I can't remember the guy's name but. they you know but by a billionaire. um. but we still don't know where the money. came from. which is not that hard. you know what I mean forensic accounting. FBI has created that where did the money. come from this guy's worth hundreds of. millions of dollars Sean yeah you know. what the first thing with this came out. people said oh he was a stock market. Trader I I know hedge fund guys I said.

anyone ever heard of this guy no. you can't you can't make you're not. making 600 million 800 million dollars. on Wall Street no one's ever heard of. you before. this is crazy right didn't make the. money that way. so they don't really know where his. money came from which is a huge red flag. in and of itself. and then there's the. well what was he doing he's running we. believe right a black man a surveillance. and blackmail operation. which likely involved as from everything.

we can see. putting very powerful very wealthy men. in situations where they were engaged in. sexual activity with underage girls. right that I believe am I am I on my own. point with this so far like that is that. right yeah that is what the general. belief is about what he was doing. how is it that we are sitting here now. after he I don't know we're gonna say he. committed suicide in the prison where no. one had ever been able to commit suicide.

before after Gillian Maxwell has also. gone off to prison and we've learned. nothing from her trial Sean nothing. she's just going away for 20 years just. you know we're not we're not hearing a. word about it wrong okay. not a single person. not a single person that I can think of. have we been told is the actual Target. of this black male with the exception of. that British royal guy and you know. whatever prince Andrew right and and.

even it seems that was Epstein uh you. know targeting him specifically and how. did that all work out point being how do. you have a massive multi at least. multi-year I mean multi-decade blackmail. operation with no targets. no one ever no one ever has this answer. for me how do you have a blackmail. operation where nobody was being. blackmailed one where you made hundreds. of millions of dollars. and and I think the answer is.

you know there's there are people who. have been able to adjust the system to. their liking in a way that certain facts. have not come to light I'll give you. something a couple of other things. another thoughts on this. because also you know it's difficult. because I think there probably are. people who are who did lunch with. Epstein. and they didn't know right I think that. that's a thing I think that's pretty. clear at this point but I also think. there are people who did know well I. mean you know at least yeah you have all.

these billionaires that are going to. take away the island. you have all these billionaires going to. New York stand in his town home with. them did. when I travel somewhere I don't I don't. I don't stay at their house especially. if it's for business I get a nice hotel. and I'm not a billionaire. I don't know any billionaires that say. it do you. he clearly had an Mo here where he. wanted people to be. uh he wanted to sort of bring them into. the web and it is surprising that you.

would I shouldn't say surprising there. are people whom I think the public would. be surprised or have been surprised to. find out weren't more on guard about the. whole thing or weren't more aware and. when you start to think that through you. go well is it that they didn't know or. is that they just pretended not to know. and that's that's where things start to. get dialed in a little bit more. but I will tell you a couple of data. points that also go in the there is no.

so I think we can all agree we don't. really know where his money came from. and it's massive wealth hundreds of. millions of dollars okay. that's very strange we should know we. should know where all this money came. and went it's all being done. electronically it should all be. trackable oh Swiss bank if there's no. such thing as Swiss banking secrecy. anymore give me a break there's there'll. be ways to figure this out someone. doesn't want to know. beyond that. where's The Blacklist the target list. the black book whatever where is the.

um where is the the target set that he. was blackmailing if we all think he was. blackmailing who was there. we haven't been told that. then. if you go back to the earliest phase of. the Epstein. um Saga. he was given a. plea deal. that was so I mean I remember I asked my. friend Annie McCarthy who uh was a. southern district of New York prosecutor. he probably see him on Fox great guy.

like brilliant dude. I I asked about this specifically this. notion. um and so he confirmed it for me they. they gave Epstein a plea deal that. excused his underage sex trafficking. Beyond a six-month. you know basically home confinement like. I mean it was a joke it was like no. sentence at all. and this was Federal. but they also gave him a on in uh that. the plea deal covered him.

and unnamed possible co-conspirators. I asked Sandy said Andy has this you. were in the southern district of New. York for like 23 years have you ever. even heard of that before a plea deal. that gives immunity beyond the. individual to unnamed individuals. he says no that's that's he told me he. says that's not a thing. so you got a guy. who is trafficking sexually underage.

girls you got them nailed dead rights. and you give him the biggest sweetheart. deal as a prosecutor anybody could ever. imagine the point where it's it's not. even done in prosecutorial circles like. this is it isn't even attack why would. you ever do that there's no basis for. this and long. and remember there was the the uh the. prosecutor the federal prosecutor in uh. Florida at the time this came up during. the Trump Administration he had to go. because people were really upset about.

this when they figured out how the. Epstein thing was initially because. there was all this focus on the Epstein. trial they said wait what happened back. in you know the whatever it was the. early mid-2000s. when this first came up so there's no. explanation of that whatsoever other. than and you've heard I'm sure the quote. you know we think he belongs to. intelligence and there's there's been. this other stuff out there. and then I'll just add one more factoid. to this and I I wish I had to like. here's who you know here's who he was. working for here's who he was targeting. I don't have it yet because I'm just you.

know a guy and I'm reading what I read. in the news I'm trying to use the. sources that I have. um they're very powerful forces trying. to stop us from knowing this you know. Sean when the FBI actually did a. I don't I don't remember the year but it. was recent in the last few years they. did a raid on his on his home. this was in the FBI. um in the logs I mean you can actually. check. this one they did a raid on its home. and. They Came Upon tapes.

okay they came upon what would we assume. would be surveillance footage now we. know he had the whole house miked up. camoured up the whole thing right right. including the rooms that were. specifically meant for you know illicit. activity. you know the FBI agent on the commanding. uh you know whatever is uh agent running. the scene. reached out to Epstein's lawyers. and let Epstein lawyers come and decide. what was privileged and what was able to. be taken. let them sort it out are you serious.

yep. it's funny to me that you have friends. inside the FBI that get upset with you. for talking [ __ ] about the FBI and then. we're talking about this right [ __ ]. now. that's why nobody [ __ ] believes you. FBI has gone into a very uh as an. institution gone into a very bad place. um for a number of reasons with the. politicization but on the Epstein thing.

I mean you think about the ferocity with. which they went after. Roger Stone. for basically making a joke on Twitter. DM. um they go and they arrest the senior. citizen in his silk pajamas with like 26. guys in Tac gear and make a real show of. it and then you see what the federal law. enforcement apparatus did for years and.

years and years to Jeffrey Epstein you. wonder what are the priorities here. you know they they look they go after. Roger Stone for nothing like it's the. bin Laden rate and they call CNN to. watch it to humiliate him and put it on. air and we all know they did it. and the Epstein thing no one has ever by. the way every all these things are. brought up with you I've never heard an. explanation of this that didn't involve. I don't know that's really bad. so what is that what does that tell you. um you know I hate when people say this. goes all the way to the top.

the Epstein thing goes really high. I don't know where it stops but this is. not this is not the way the system tells. us that it works. and uh you're being asked to believe a. lot when you're asked to believe the. official Narrative of what's really. happened there. he's just involved with so many people I. mean the Virgin Islands are subpoenaing. subpoenaing Larry Page at Google. and JP Morgan for their ties with the. abstain in human trafficking as of May 4. 2023.

federal judge ruled the JP Morgan and. Deutsche Bank can be held physically. liable for allowing Epstein to maintain. his network of underage girls for sexual. abuse actively enabling him to continue. his crimes do you think anything's going. to happen with that. all right. this is where I go into the I would love. to believe that the system. wouldn't want the right thing wants. Justice and we'll do the right yeah but.

see this is what I you know you want it. you want to believe this is party that. wants to think the good guys the Cavalry. is going to arrive. um Cavalry didn't arrive in time for all. those young girls. Cavalry didn't show up to deal with that. you know piece of trash when it would. have really counted and done something. and uh. I I think it's it's very hard for people. to see. um all of these uh all these moments. where there was at best this failure and.

not feel like there's something. else that is at work with all of it. um I I just I think that there's no good. explanations for how these things happen. that don't involve. there is such a thing as a conspiracy. and some conspiracies are real and with. Epstein I think we've seen. the very kind of situation where. incredibly powerful people will go to. extreme lengths. I mean well there are a few things that.

no matter how powerful and Rich you are. will destroy you you know in the public. eye and legally as fast as. you know doing uh you know illegal acts. with with underage girls. so what are the very powerful people who. Epstein was targeting we assumed there. were people who he was targeting what. are they not willing to do or what. lengths what levers are they not willing. to pull in order to make this sort of. thing go away nothing I mean.

they're having sex with underage women. you know I mean that doesn't get any. worse so so that's that's when you see. um. you know and they remember. the uh the Epstein case really the my I. think it was the Miami Herald wrote. about it again in 2019 it had sort of. faded people weren't really talking. about it for a long time. um and then finally there was this uh. this outrage about it.

um and and there was a focus on it but. uh there's. that it's just it's just really. disconcerting uh at the deepest level to. see. that this is a guy that should have been. put away for. yeah. look man I I don't like to do the thing. where we compare this thing to that. thing or you know what about ism. you had people on January 6 who. didn't hit anyone didn't break anything. didn't threaten anyone. and they were locked up like animals for.

18 months in solitary confinement in a. DC jail that was practically a gulag. because they had the wrong politics and. they're the wrong place at the wrong. time. Jeffrey Epstein was trafficking underage. girls and the system gave him a. six-month like home confinement go into. a county jail for a couple of days a. week thing and just you know made most. of it go away and. and then he kept doing it. that's the system.

so you sit there and you say is it a. justice system. doesn't feel like to some people. speaking of I mean all these people have. something dangling over their head one. thing I forgot to ask you. about the Twitter files sure is. we heard from musk time and time and. time again about fauci and when they. dropped the fauci files and and now. that's that's gone that's not going to.

happen in fact he even said we need to. move away from the turtle from the. Twitter files why do you think. the fauci stuff never came out and. probably never will come out. uh fauci is protected because he was the. the point man for. really the biggest. government uh fraud and and abuse of our. lifetime. um so and he understood see fauci is a. political animal.

um he was the before he retired the most. highly paid employee in the entire. federal government which is a remarkable. you know I know Federal government's big. there's a lot of people the federal. government highest paid federal. government employee had lasted in his. role for for decades and decades. and he decided that the way one I think. that he became a true megalomaniac I. think that he was overcome with uh with. narcissism and that at his stage in life. he became this figure who was.

elevated by some really sad but millions. of them. um sad leftists into being almost like a. deity uh I think he started to believe. in himself a little bit I think that he. disconnected from. obvious reality and started to think the. hero worship was rooted in the fact that. he really was somebody who should be. worshiped. and he also was critical. to the Democrat plan of unseating Donald.

Trump and taking over the White House. and taking power. he mobilized as a political operative. for them. so they very I mean up to this point he. has been. um. you know the scene in The Departed where. he's like that's a guy you can't touch. you know he's a maid guy can't touch him. he was a mate guy fauci was someone that. you couldn't get. uh couldn't get any kind of a political. hit on. and I mean I think what he did is uh is.

evil I don't think that it was beyond. his knowledge that he was advocating for. policies that were destructive. economically psychologically abusive I. think a lot of people died of drug. overdoses and I think a lot of people. drank themselves to death I think a lot. of marriages were ruined I think a lot. of children were abused because fauci. was a coward who told Democrats who are. hysterical what they wanted to hear. which was if you just listen to me. you'll be safe and you're a good person.

that was there was a moral element to. this too we have to remember even. remember if you got covered there was a. period of time where people would say. how'd you get it as if it's like what do. you mean breathing air being around. human beings. that was a part of the madness why. didn't Elon uh or why hasn't the fauci. files really come out I mean I'll say. um one thing. uh my guess is that fauci is. you know he understands he's subject to. foia.

so my sense is that he's probably not. super sloppy with what he would put down. in the first place. that's on the. finding the most positive interpretation. of it possible I think it's also and. this is a bigger piece of it. elon's taking on a lot with what he's. doing with Twitter. and is getting immense pressure this is. like a break in the damn of the. collectivist Democrat. you know control I mean this this is you.

finally have. and and I we can't even begin to I think. understand how much. um personal and professional pressure he. comes under as a result of this. and I think maybe he just decided that. this isn't necessarily. either it just wasn't that interesting. which is possible maybe they didn't have. anything that good on fouchy. specifically I mean I think we already. because I think we already kind of know. um or he just decided that to keep. Twitter alive.

not going to go full on without you. think. so those are those that's my assessment. I I know people can pick and choose what. they think is. right or wrong about that that's how I. see it yeah and I would love to see it I. mean I would love to see it I think I. was probably uh. I think I I despise fauci more and. sooner than almost anyone else that I. know in the entirety of American Media. because I saw exactly who this guy was. all I had to know was the flip on the. mask issue.

goes from it's not a big deal doesn't. really work very well you know don't. waste your time to this is essential if. you don't do it you're a bad person yeah. it was in lockstep with the psychology. and the political needs of the Democrat. left that's all it was he became a. friend a front man he was propaganda in. a lab coat he was a tiny little Tyrant. doing what the collective apparatus. wanted them to and we all suffer as a. result of it and uh I mean I think he's. I think he's truly shameful I mean I.

think what he did is uh his monstrous. and I think the people who went along. with it have a lot of soul searching to. do. and and they were hateful and uh their. conduct was shameful and the forced. vaccine mandates was a disgrace and the. mass mandates on planes and in. restaurants was appalling and pointless. by the way. um but it to me it still goes back to it. feels like a dry run for totalitarian. control in this country when the next. Crisis comes. I don't know like locking up a.

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all right Buck we're back from the break. let's talk about title 42 because that's. coming up real quick what's that entail. so title 42 is a pandemic. um authority of the CDC. that allowed them to turn away single. adult male. migrants.

under the general idea that we got a. pandemic we can't just let people into. the country because you know pandemic is. spread by people and we have to control. our borders I think that's the the short. version of it. um what. what we're going to see here is that one. of the only. tools that they had to turn away. single adult male migrants quickly. rapidly effectively is going to go. and so it's not like there haven't been.

a lot of people illegally entering the. country over the last. couple years it's been the worst the. numbers have ever been I mean you're. looking at. oh gosh 5.5 million I think. and the thing about the border that is. uh. such a challenge. so there's there's understanding the. scope of the problem and then there's. understanding the specifics of what's. going wrong right so there's the at the.

30 000 foot level we have an open border. that is allowing for the mass violation. of our sovereignty. uh fentanyl trafficking that is killing. roughly a hundred thousand Americans a. year opioids fentanyl heroin. some other drugs too. human trafficking including trafficking. of children. um into into slavery and and all of this. is going on we have. a massive problem of the border so we.

understand that now we get into the why. or or how is it actually happening. there are uh a lot of. open holes in the border that. well literally in terms of not having. fencing or wall but also uh in terms of. policy and the biggest one has been and. I've spent time with border patrol I. still am in contact with some great. folks on Border Patrol I run this stuff. through them. um and I'm fortunate with my radio show.

I can basically ask for any policy. official I want not working for the buy. Administration but premium they'll come. on right away so a lot of access to. expertise on the on the issue of the. border which has made me learn a lot. and the Asylum issue is just that's the. biggest single scam that is running. right now. um and I think it's important if people. understood. what's really going on. then they would be able to better argue. with.

the. Machinery of illegal immigration as it. happens in the in the country today. and the enormous political implications. and and honestly. uh you know nation-state implications. for us. so I mean the one thing that I think. everyone needs to understand is that. the whole system now is being abused so. that people are entering the country. with no belief that they're ever going.

to have to leave. how does that happen they step into the. country illegally that's the first the. first thing is the illegal entry right. so they they show up and I've seen this. I mean I've been with border patrol. while this has happened and they'll. surrender. meaning you'll see a group of 50 100. migrants the wave down border patrol. people think of this as like oh my gosh. the cartels the drug Runners and all the. no no no that's happening too. but vast majority of you know 80 90.

percent of what you're really seeing. um in terms of the aggregate numbers or. people who are showing up who find a way. to enter illegally which is I mean it is. illegal to be in the Mexican side of the. border to walk on the American side that. act is a violation of American. sovereignty that act is actually uh. against the law which I think people. have to be reminded about because. um this is being treated like it's not a. crime anymore just like it is on the. reverse yeah of course because every.

country in the world has this yeah I. mean I think that's important would you. point out there too every country in the. world is allowed to say these are our. borders we're not allowed to do that in. Mexico. right we're no we're not allowed to just. go into Mexico we're not allowed to do. that to go to Canada no oh no oh no. um we every country in the world is. allowed to have at least try to have. border Integrity except us. and we are racist by the way as a. country. for wanting to have secure borders.

that's the primary argument. in a you know highly diverse. multi-ethnic multinational. multi-religious country like America. just to try to say hey can we have. control over who's coming into the. country a million people a year. illegally enter America and stay in. America get you know Green cards. citizenship whatever a million a year. this is just saying hey can we can we. deal with the illegal entry and if you. bring it up the first thing they say is. that you're racist now that's always.

interesting because okay racist against. whom. oh you're racist against Hispanic people. so that's interesting there are about. 160 different countries that have had. people enter the U.S illegally in the. last year. Thailand West Africa. Peru. Azerbaijan think of a country basically. and people have tried to enter illegally. from there so this notion that oh you. you just don't want people from this one. country or that one country to come here.

is a lie but it's a very it's a very. powerful lie the media tells everybody. and that makes a lot of people scared to. understand this issue honestly and to. understand what's really what's really. going on. so. so they enter legally and then they go. through this process and remember this. is happening millions of times over they. say I have a credible fear. and some of them even have little sheets. of paper that have told them what to say. they've found this in order to they also.

have wristbands as you know I'm sure if. you've talked to other people about the. cartel situation they have wristbands to. show which Cartel they paid off to get. there and you see these piles of. wristbands so this is now some are. estimating that they make more money. from the human trafficking than the drug. smuggling across the border depends on. who's you know they're not keeping. receipts right but it depends on whose. numbers you ask it's a it's a. multi-billion dollar. thing that's going on here right now. um and the Mexican government's. basically doing nothing to stop it as We. Know The Mexican government is. effectively owned by the cartels anyway. so.

they they then go into the process of. saying well I'm seeking Asylum. and just take New York City the the case. study that I know the best New York City. now. the the process to get your Asylum claim. heard is going to take basically a. decade. what's going to happen. between now and a decade from now when. that person may or may not even show up. for their Asylum hearing. they'll be a low priority for.

deportation they will not you know so. meaning unless they commit a heinous. crime and even then there'll be Libs. we're like oh look every once you get a. second chance but they don't show up for. the hearing they have to go find the. person then they get a uh they get their. day in court before the Asylum judge and. then there's a separate and I you know. some of this has they're all through. this and change as they go in the. process but there's also a separate. component of it which is the deportation. hearing. so the point here is that with the. system as it exists today if someone. shows up at our border and says I have a.

credible fear of persecution in my. country. and they pass that credible fear test. which is the most perfunctory nonsense. you can imagine to the point where the. cartels are training people in all these. different languages to say this or say. it in English obviously betraying people. who speak different languages. um they're they're then gaming the whole. system they're going to have kids here. they're going to get married here. they're going to work here what are the. Democrats going to say in 10 years. they're going to say this person's this. person's an American now. now you can argue that someone could say.

to me that you know what that's that's. what we that's what we want that is not. what the Democrats are saying they say. they have legal status they say they're. going through a process and if they fail. in that process they will be deported. that is a lie they are delaying law. enforcement inaction to nullify our. immigration laws they're doing this on. massive scale and they're doing this to. create the biggest violation of American. sovereignty and rule of law. uh you could imagine right now at the.

southern border so that's the primary uh. scam that is that is underway and it's. it skips the legal immigration line it. makes people that went through years of. applications and you know paying lawyers. and everything to do it the legal way. the right way makes them feel like I. could have just walked across the border. um and you have to remember that in the. background of all this is mass amnesty. which is the ultimate plan that's that. was the plan of the Obama Administration. if Biden wins a second term it will be. the primary focus of the Democrats if.

they can get a. uh if they can find a way to to push it. through shoehorn it through. um by changing the filibuster they will. um and they'll do it on this issue why. so this expires here coming up it might. be it might be expired by the time this. actually comes out but I got another. question for you so The Border's been. pretty much wide open the entire. the entire time Biden's been in office. right. now this is going to expire. and I just saw that now they're sending.

what 1500 National Guard troops down to. the border to. for what. why all of a sudden what's what's the. play. Optics. the play is to make it seem like. the Biden Administration going into. the election cycle cares about the. problem. there is how the Biden White House. governs and there's how the Biden White. House campaigns. this is a much you know broader issue.

even than the Border but Biden is going. to run as somebody who wants to fix the. Border he's going to run as somebody who. wants border security he's going to run. as somebody who wants Law and Order on. the streets of American cities all of. this is a complete slap in the face to. anyone who's been awake for the last you. know two plus years three years. um but that's the way they're going to. do it that's the game plan this is a. head fake sending National Guard to the. border is a head fake that is meant to.

look like they're doing something to. make the Border better more secure. whatever it may be the reality of. national I've been to the I've been at. the border with you know National Guard. guys there see exactly what they do. they aren't securing anything they are. processing. they are helping to process arrivals. they are handing out bottles of water. and and just a presence there doing. admin effectively they're not chasing.

cartel guys they're not making arrests. they're not turning people back none of. that so the the popular conception of. let's just send the military to the. Border. military under the current regime. there's no authority to do anything in. the border the authority is to welcome. the illegals and hand out bottles of. water that's the authority so they're. just they're just sending them down. there for a show to try to convert more. voters yeah to make to make it seem like. they're doing something the Big. Challenge the other big challenge you. have how many people do you think are. going to fall for that because this has. been going on since he got elected how.

many in how many independents and this. is a depressing thought but it's. whenever it needs to remember how many. independents. did they have to sway. based on the official numbers. in. 2020 for Biden to win you're talking. about less than 100 000 people across a. handful of states. so they're not always playing to. how many Independents do you think they. did sway oh God. uh that's a really good question depends.

on where you're asking me I mean. look I think that the. um I think that they rigged the system. using covet as an excuse to change. election laws in ways that are violate. state law in places like Pennsylvania I. think that there was a refusal of some. of the individuals in the Judiciary to. take on cases to look at you know if. people are voting in Georgia in the. wrong County.

honest mistake okay fine but those votes. aren't supposed to count and when you're. talking about losing by what 14 000. votes the rules of the rules right. didn't want to look at that there are. places where there were clear. um. there were clear failures of of the. system but you know I think that when. you look at the reality of the data now. on Independent voters not just in 2020. but in 2022 the Republicans have a. problem we do have a problem we have a. problem with Republicans who won't vote.

for certain Republicans right that's. real people can say oh but you know get. all angry about it it's just what. happened. um and I think the data reflects that so. I think that's I mean I think that's a. huge problem and then yes I mean in my. personal opinion that could be fixed. yeah. um it's something you've pissed off the. entire [ __ ] independent voting. population then you did something wrong.

yeah would you agree with that mm-hmm. look. um. there's there are people who have been. very emotionally invested even on the. right in certain narratives of. what has happened in our recent. elections and what the party has become. and who should lead it and uh I just sit. here trying to think of how do we win so. we can do the best we can to fix the. country as much as we can while we can. and that's not about allegiance to one.

individual it's not about allegiance to. the party overall it's just looking at. what is happening and trying to do the. best under the circumstances that we can. and uh I I think that with 2022. uh we we lost. look we lost the Senate we should have. won the Senate and then we lost the. Senate because of some of the candidates. being weak and also being overly focused. on what happened in 2020. and people say oh and they get very mad. about this and I say to them and these.

are my people get very mad about it and. these are my you know friends and. colleagues and and some of some of my uh. my listeners I say. we have to be able to have and we have. to be able to be honest with each other. about how we win what needs to happen to. win or else we just keep losing and and. become kind of victims of the system and. just blaming oh but this is. um you know there there were some Senate. candidates in 2022 who were bad. candidates. and took the wrong approach and we. should learn from that instead of saying.

Oh but you know. something else raw or Republicans I. don't like them they didn't do the right. thing or you know people just get very. angry about it look I got angry about it. I I you were with me on Election night I. mean election night was like a mule kick. to the face in 2022 I was like you've. got to be kidding me yeah you've got to. I mean look I mean Ron DeSantis had a. huge win in Florida and other than that. I was looking around I was like every. close race every close important race we. lost basically. you know we want some good seeds but. those are you know we thought we were. going to win you know Ohio governorship.

like or Ohio Senator rather we thought. we were going to win. um you know some. some good stuff but uh and the close. ones did not work out. and I just uh I mean I'm tired of losing. that's kind of that's me too I'm tired. of losing and we do need Independence. and we do need Independence not to agree. with us on everything but to agree with. enough. in an in enough places that we don't. have. lunatics running the party. last thing I want to talk about is.

Ukraine and the money laundering I hear. all about. the money laundering in Ukraine I don't. hear a lot about how it's being. laundered and that's maybe that's. because I'm not looking into it enough I. don't know but I'm hoping you can. explain to me how money is being. laundered in Ukraine. you know this is when I wish I wish I. had some of the old access right so I. could actually start to see who's saying. what to whom over there among the. oligarchs and where the money's going. and. that's such a difficult question because.

you're asking where does it go within. the system. when it goes into a system who that. exists first and foremost to hide what's. going on right in a lot of ways when a. system is built to evade accountability. and to evade transparency. from thousands of miles away how are you. going to have a real view into what's. happening. we know there's no accountability for. the official dollars that are going into. Ukraine we also know there's a lot of. stuff that's going into Ukraine that's.

not official and a lot of resources and. personnel and whatever do you have any. specifics. no I'm not I I will always tell you what. I know what I don't know I'm not as. uh plugged into Ukraine as as uh I could. be or I think I should be if I chase. them more to be honest with you I've. been. I care about our border more than I care. about Ukraine's borders that's been a. little bit of my philosophy and so I. focus more on. um what's happening here with that issue.

just to. and then I you know also um the criminal. justice issue in cities and and what's. happening in blue States that's much. more my focus on the on Ukraine. um I just don't want us getting drawn. into another War I mean that's my you. know whether they're spending all this. money they shouldn't be spending all. this money we have uh I think we're on. the precipice of a major recession in. this country right now. maybe bring the dollars home uh is seems.

pretty obvious but I'll be honest I. don't know anyone I hear people talking. about the money laundering too I hear. people talking about all the we know. Ukraine is super corrupt we know they've. gotten a hundred and I don't know 20. billion dollars or something of U.S Aid. military aid cash infusions everything. where does it all go. I don't think that the people that are. supposed to know where it goes in the. government even really know so it's very. difficult for us to have a better a. better sense of where those cash flows. are going I mean obviously a lot of it.

is going to artillery shells and you. know the the conflict but. um they're siphoning it off to the side. think about it this way right I always. like to try to do. if I'm switching around sitting on the. other side of the chessboard or just. sitting in place of somebody who is. playing their own chess game like I'll. take their chair for a second. if you're a senior figure in the. Ukrainian government right now given. what's going on with Russia. and you're in a country where. everybody's been Feathering their nests. with whatever dollars they can siphoning.

from the treasury siphoning from. corporate interests that are paying you. off Pure Old School corruption. anytime you're not going to make sure. you're sucking away some money and and. getting ready for the exit right right. that's what I think is going on right in. the U.S government right now so I I. right so I think that's happening I just. put like where and and the mechanics of. it the motivation you and I can agree is. there and so the reality is almost. certainly there but the specifics of. of how they're doing it I mean I would I. wish I could know and I I just also feel.

like. I wish they would just tell everybody. we're in for a few trillion dollars on. this one. because that's what it actually is. I'm not saying it's a few trillion spent. already but I'm saying the way this. conflict is going the duration of the. conflict as it's likely to play out. you're looking at a few trillion dollars. and that's the best case scenario of we. don't get somehow dragged into this. thing and it goes. you know a thermonuclear I mean which is. everyone's well it should be everyone's.

worst nightmare do you think we're. heading into World War III. oh man. I think that the chance of a direct. escalation with Russia is. probably. 10 to 20 percent and that's enough that. I think people should be really worried. about it. so I think it's unlikely but realistic. and when it's realistic and it involves. something that's that significant and.

dangerous. people should be much more cognizant of. the mission creep toward this and the. way that this could go bad in a hurry I. mean they just if we're going to talk. they're talking about oh there was an. attempt on Putin's life with drones like. whoa. you gotta remember you know this right. you know this from the agency side. because we we get a. you when you work in the world of. tradecraft and Espionage and all that. stuff. you have I have a sense for how.

what a bunch of cold. sobs the Soviets now the you know. Russian services are Russian FSB and all. that. um they they blew up an apartment. building full of Russians to invade. chechnya like I think that's pretty well. established total people yell about. false flags and. I think sometimes it you know they think. oh come on that's it they exist it does. happen. and the Russians they know how to do. that kind of stuff they do that kind of.

stuff and so that's why when people say. it's not just what we want it's what. they want or how they want to draw Us in. or how they want to respond and that's. that's where I get really worried and I. don't hear. I I mean do you ever hear anyone on on. on either side honestly ever talk about. how this thing ends no. and we just and so I sat here I told you. and I was a little uh. you know a little little analyst in. Afghanistan trying to learn about what's. going on in that country I I knew then.

and everyone that I thought who. understood the country well was just the. mission there wasn't going to work it. just wasn't gonna happen. not with the Pakistani Sanctuary uh next. door not with the. you know the history and culture of. Afghanistan as it pertains to a central. government we could go you know talk. about that for three hours just wasn't. going to happen. so I sit here and I say what is Our. obligation to make sure that we speak. the truth even if it is. shouted down from people that are. supposedly the smartest the most. knowledgeable the ones that you know.

really care about Ukraine. um because. this stuff as you know can change in a. heartbeat and all of a sudden it's gone. from we have to support the brave. Ukrainian resistance to you know what we. really do need that no-fly zone or you. know what we really do need to establish. the safe haven corridors with U.S troops. deployed to enforce them you know west. of Kiev and you know and then. then things go on from there we've. learned a very painful lesson with how. uh useless sanctions sanctions are.

again. they're baby this is amazing isn't it. we're always like oh well we're gonna. slap them around with sanctions really. you're gonna slap Russia around with. sanctions the. uh hydrocarbon superpower uh that in a. world where the economy is still. absolutely positively needs natural gas. and and oil you're gonna do what exactly. and we learned at the beginning of this. conflict we were told we're going to. crush their economy.

being Crush their economy they're really. smart people who tell us we're not going. to get into war with Russia they said. we're going to be able to bring Russia. to its knees by cutting them off from. the international banking system does. Russia look like it's been brought to. its knees by the international banking. system well I like what. I guess I shouldn't say I like but I. think Elon Musk he brought up a great. point when we weaponized the US dollar. and with all these sanctions and. everything and now look what's happening. now bricks has taken off and. all these countries are dropping the. dollar Argentina France is talking about. a Brazil Saudi Arabia Iran who else who.

am I missing. I mean you know that's that's a strong. list of of people that are are moving if. if dollar if a dollar no longer is the. global Reserve currency. um we live in a very different country. with a very different standard of living. pretty much overnight and now you want. to talk about social upheaval and what's. possible in a totalitarian future. yeah. look at how much some of the most. wealthy and educated nation states in.

the world over the last hundred years. have changed over periods of. a couple of decades. but the belief that we are. Above The Fray with all of that will. always be The Shining Light of Freedom. the red white and blue. only if we do the right things. what do you know about the bio labs in. Ukraine I hear a lot about the bio Labs. I don't know a lot about them people I I.

just hear a lot of blurbs I don't I. don't hear a lot of people dive in on. these subjects I just hear a lot of of. buzzwords. actually I mean I I I don't have. this is where I should be like Sean I. can either confirm nor deny I'm not read. into that program or not but I I. honestly don't really know much about. the bioweapon labs or whatever they you. know whatever the reporting is on that. um I've just I've just seen what you've. seen. um I I to be honest with you I haven't. really in my work I haven't really.

followed. um events in Ukraine as closely. certainly as I did Iraq Afghanistan and. places like that uh having to spend time. in those places because. um I just view it as we're in a proxy. war and it's going to continue it's. going to go on for years and it's really. for us. don't get drawn under the war. try to stop the money spigot from being. crazy and try to stop us from destroying. the Dollar on our own economy in the. process because I never hear anyone say.

uh even people that are skeptical of of. our plan in Ukraine I never hear them. say. publicly at least well what what do we. do even some of the Republican members. of Congress do we just do we do we just. stop giving Ukraine anything is that the. plan. if someone feels that way I think the. first step would be they've got to start. saying this right if they just said you. know Ukraine is on its own. is that the policy or is the policy. mitigating our. our involvement and making sure that we. don't get drawn into the disaster.

wholesale so. um but I I. have very little faith in the people. making the decisions. about the issue that they know what. they're doing and that they're. exercising judgment and wisdom. yeah. I don't either. I don't have any faith in it at all. but. um what do you think is going to happen. in the next year oh man with the. election coming up. what do we need to look out for I think. you're heading into oh we're going to.

see the BLM and antifa and all this. other [ __ ] all over again. is that coming. that's interesting. um. I think the primary plan. uh for the left is going to be. the the legal effort against Trump is. much more serious than most people. realize and I mean most Trump supporters. realize. this is a decision that I think has. really already been made that this is.

what they're going to do I think the. people in place. have. no problem using their prosecutorial. Authority and using the Judiciary as a. weapon of politics. and I think that if they you know. they've also. set a standard whereby they can use the. system the Machinery of the government. in a way to crush dissent in a way that. uh.

could be really. really frightening down the line because. let's say you have. and I hope this is wrong about it maybe. everything's going to be fine and you. know we'll be sitting here you know. smoking cigars and celebrating the. victory of the Republic and everything's. fine but um I think that it's more. likely you'll see multiple efforts to. prosecute Trump as the Republican. nominee. and. then there'll be all discussionists to. whether or not they can even try to. imprison him I think that the.

polarization and the. the impact that we'll have on the. country will be. massive even by our current standards I. think people will just be in a bit of a. State of Shock over it and then some who. want to you know protest more take to. the streets uh speak about this on our. side will of course create as always. happens the opening for the other side. which always has the floodgates of.

activist Maniac antifa BLM Riot or all. that stuff ready to go at a moment's. notice. um and and so then that becomes uh. perhaps the excuse for that to. put us into a state of of. um. heightened anxiety I mean remember you. know you know this from uh. how they try to break people down in. interrogations right you create. um psychological isolation anguish and.

and just apply pressure and over time. when you apply pressure. people become less rational they become. less reasonable they're more they're. more. suggestible to extreme ideas and extreme. ideology. and I I think that that's going to be. part of a big part of the Playbook to. stay in power for 2024 and I. hope to God that I am wrong and that. they don't really go for the prosecution.

of trump and they don't try to. effectively subvert a uh an election. from happening in a presidential year. and if that's the case. still a lot of other things to worry. about but that would be good but I I see. I see them Prosecuting Trump and. that taking us into completely Uncharted. Territory I don't know where they've. already prosecuted to be clear right. they've already brought a criminal. charge but I mean ramping it up. substantially yeah and taking it to a. place where no one really can understand. where that's going to go where that. takes the country politically I mean if.

I told somebody in 2019 we're going to. be locked into our homes. we're going to be forced to. um act like you know there's a there's a. plague out there that could kill us at. any moment and there will be mobs of. lunatics in major American cities. uh rampaging rampaging through. neighborhoods destroying and looting. Stores. um pulling down monuments and statues.

and breaking them up riding outside the. White House riding and you know. you just said I was crazy. welcome to 2020. so I think we have to see the next time. around uh. be ready for things to get wild that's. what I think's gonna happen. great. but it's all gonna be okay that's why. you pray you spend time with your family. spend time with loved ones. read good books. think we're wild thoughts. you know we are still the best country.

in the world which I think says a lot of. the time more about other countries than. it does about us but we're still number. one so we got that we got that going for. us which is nice so yeah yeah. well Buck you got anything cool coming. up. no I just. um you know your audience has has. excellent taste so if they have any uh. room to add to the the the content uh. docket you know please check out uh we. do a radio show every day clay Travis. and Buck Sexton show uh we're on I mean. I don't know 500 stations give or take.

so pretty much everywhere uh we're on. the iHeart app you can listen in and I. talk about this stuff all the time three. hours a day with clay and and uh we're. trying to save the people ask me what I. do for a living and I say this uh I'm. only half kidding I'm trying to save the. country so I hope some of your folks. will check out the show well I'm sure. they will all the links will be in the. description and uh hey man it's a real. honor interviewing you and thank you. very much honored to be here I really. was looking forward to it so it's been. really cool I hope to see you again.

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