Augustus Doricko - Did Cloud Seeding Cause the Texas Floods? | SRS #217

[Music]. Augustus Dorico, welcome back. >> Thanks for having me back, Sean. >> Didn't expect to see you again so soon. >> It was quite the timing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, man. So, uh, massive flood tragedy. in Texas. You were there cloud seeding. before and uh, so I know you're getting. blasted on the internet. people are. [ __ ] I rateate, you know, what's.

what's going on and and um you know, but. I pride myself on giving everybody a. voice and so I wanted to offer you the. opportunity to come back and talk about. what's going down on there. So, quick. introduction and some stats on what's. happened last week. Augustus Doro, founder and CEO of Rain. Maker, a next generation cloud seating. company. your name popped up in the news. last week obviously because of the Texas. floods and the cloud seating stuff and.

uh so like I said I just want to bring. you on give you the opportunity to speak. to the public my audience about what was. going on on there but but let's take a a. moment here to recognize the scale of. the tragedy killed at least 120 people. and left at least 176 missing notably 27. girls and one counselor from Camp. Mystic, a Christian summer camp, were. killed. And uh I just want to say that,

you know, every time something like this. happens, uh me and my organization, we. like to donate. And so we're making a. sizable donation. We did some research. and found a found a a nonprofit to. donate to. So we're donating. uh to the relief efforts through the. Community Foundation of the Texas Hill. County uh country in the show. And uh. we'll link that that link in the show. notes for anybody else that wants to. donate, including you. If you want to.

donate to it, >> rain maker will do the same. >> Perfect. And uh some facts about the. flooding. Texas Hill Country alongside along the. Guadalupe River. Heavy rainfall from. tropical storm Berry. Unprecedented. flooding between July 4th through 7th. 5. to 11 in of rain fell in a few hours, leading to the Guadalupe River rising 26. to 29 ft in some areas within 45. minutes. Among the deadliest in the US.

in a century, it's destroyed homes, camps, infrastructure, killed a lot of people, a lot of people. still missing that they're looking for. The tra the tragedy centered in flash. flood alley underscored the region's. vulnerability to such events with. historic floods that also happened in. 1987, 1998 and 2015 as presidents. And. uh I also want to take a moment and uh. and just.

recognize a lot of the heroic actions. that were going on there. extensive. extensive rescue operations involving. over 850 rescues. One Coast Guard crew. made 165 rescues and first responders. and everyday Americans stepped up to. save their neighbors. So, um you know, I don't know how to say this, but you. know, when it's. when things like this happen, it's just.

it's good to see how many Americans step. up. You know, we saw it in Hurricane. Helen. We saw it in in the wildfires. We're seeing it here. I mean, it's just. it's good to see Americans, I mean, we. live in a very divisive society now, and. it it's good to see people step up in. their community and and come together to. to help those in need in in in these. tragic events. So, so I know you were there, I think it was. two days prior to the flood, correct?

>> Correct. And um what were you doing. there? >> Sure. So just again for those that. haven't heard before about what cloud. seating is in no uncertain terms, I run a cloud seating company. We make a. little bit more rain and snow for farms. or for reservoirs or for aquifers when. they're dealing with drought. Right. Obviously, right now after the flooding, Texas does not need more water, and. we've indefinitely suspended operations. because of that, and we'll keep them. suspended until first responders have.

stopped working. Cloud seating is not. long streaks in the sky. It's not trying. to dim out the sun. It's certainly not. creating hurricanes. Cloud seating is a. technology that was invented in the US. that relies on. clouds, natural clouds with liquid water. droplets in them. And flying into those. clouds, dispersing uh material that then. freezes onto those drops, makes big. enough, heavy enough snowflakes such. that they fall and either fall as snow. or melt back into rain. We have.

customers throughout Texas. the South. Texas Weather Modification Association, the West Texas Weather Modification. Association. These are groups of. counties and individual farms that pay. us for cloud seating because they. historically have needed more water. Right? If you look even back to June. 24th, not long ago, a lot of Texas, a. lot of the Hill Country was in severe or. moderate drought, right? And so what we. were doing there on July 2nd and prior. was trying to make more rain for these.

farms and for these reservoirs and to. recharge the aquafer because they tend. to need more water. We were operating on. the second and we flew one 20-minute. cloud seating mission. So we seated two. clouds and we dispersed 70 g of silver. iodide into those clouds. Um first of. all uh those clouds dissipated over the. course of the 2 hours after the mission, right? Um, so did we seed the storm. itself? No, absolutely not. Did we uh. seed clouds that dumped tons of.

precipitation? No, not that either. Like. the most successful cloud seeding. missions that have ever been conducted. either by Rain Maker or research labs. have produced tens of millions of. gallons of precipitation. They got. hundreds of billions of gallons of. precipitation over the course of just. hours and trillions cumulatively. So. cloud seeding though it can make useful. amounts of water for these farms and. ecosystems cannot produce a million. times more than than what the best. operations ever have. So that's the. first thing to say. The second thing to.

say is well you know maybe because you. uh like seated those those two clouds on. the second the material stayed in the. atmosphere and then made the flooding. worse later. And we know categorically. that that's not true either. um when you. seed into clouds and there's subsequent. precipitation, the material that you. disperse gets precipitated out with the. rain, right? So, one, we know that by. seeding into the clouds, the aerosol. dissipated, but two, even if we had just.

been seating into open air, and we. weren't, right? It was 20 plus hours. between when our mission occurred and. when the flooding ensued and the winds. were blowing northwest northwest such. that any of our air souls would have. been long and far north had they even. persisted in the atmosphere and they. didn't. >> Hold on, let's rewind. What what were. you saying about what was that last. thing? >> Uh about the aerosols up there. So So. one thing. >> the wind. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so the the winds. when we were seeding were blowing to the.

northwest, right? In the ensuing days, right, you had the storm just plop down. and pound this one particular area. But. when we were seeding, the winds were. going northwest such that any of the. aerosols that could have possibly. remained in the atmosphere. And I don't. think that any consequential amount did, uh, they would have blown out of the. direction of the storm as well. >> You don't think or you know, >> we we know. We know. Excuse. >> Did you see those clouds dissipate?

>> Yes. >> Do you have that on video? >> We have that on radar. >> You have that on radar. Have you. released that information? >> Yeah. Yeah, we posted that online. >> You did? >> Mhm. >> And you were operating, I believe, south, was it? Southwest of. >> It's about 100 miles southeast. >> 100 miles southeast. >> Mhm. >> And the And the wind was blowing which. way? >> It was blowing uh northwest. >> It was blowing northwest. So it would. have been in the direction of that storm. from from your location. >> Correct. However, one it was 70 g of.

silver iodide. >> Mhm. >> That amount of particulate dispersed. over hours would have been lower in. concentration than just the natural. amount of dust that gets kicked up from. the soil. Right. It could not have any. impact because of those concentrations. And the notion that like by seeding. could we have worsened the storm somehow. because we created a low pressure system. like I think a lot of people and I'm not. one to always defer to experts right. like I think that people should trust.

but verify um the notion that any sort. of seeding operation then could have. worsened the. remnants of the tropical storm and then. the convergence of a system from the. Pacific is like totally impossible. And and you can defer to other. atmospheric scientists that have brought. this up and corroborated it not from. rain maker. You can defer to other. meteorologists. You can even defer to. the Texas Department of Agriculture. Commissioner that dispelled any rumors.

about cloud seeding having to do with. this. >> Why did they why who hired you to go. down there? >> The South Texas Weather Modification. Association. So that's a bunch of. counties and farms that need more water. >> Okay. Okay. Did they I mean when you're. seating clouds I mean are how what's the. radius of where you're doing it from? How many miles out are you guys looking. at weather? We're looking at well for. forecasting. You know this is an.

important point right? We're looking at. the entire region um just so that we. understand the situation. Even if we're. only seating over a handful of counties, we want to understand the context. And. it's important to do that because on the. 2nd, our meteorologists identified that. there was this inflow of moisture from. the Gulf. And that's why we suspended. operations the afternoon of the second. Now, that's important because one, that's like it it rain maker wants to do. no harm and did no harm. And by.

proactively forecasting so that we know. we're not seeding during storms or. during flash floods, like we can prevent. ourselves from doing any damage, right? But it's also important because a lot of. people have said, well, you know, >> who even is regulating you guys? Who. even is giving you permission to do. this? >> And it's worth saying, uh, the Texas. Department of Licensing and Regulation. has permits for weather modification and. cloud seating operations. Um, they have. for decades. Cloud seating isn't a new. technology, right? Um, only recently.

have people been able to measure what. the effects of it are with new radar. tech, but it's not new. The states have. regulations. The states have to grant. you permits if they approve your concept. of operations and also if they approve. your suspension criteria. And so that is. maybe one of the most important parts. here. Suspension criteria are basically. the weather conditions or conditions on. the ground that would result in us being. required to stop operating. And so one. of the suspension criteria is if the.

National Weather Service issues a flash. flood warning, the National Weather. Service issued a flash flood flood. warning at about 1:00 a.m. on uh the 3, >> right? Um we suspended operations on the. 2nd. We proactively suspended operations. even before we were notified to by the. National Weather Service or before we. would have been required to by the Texas. Department of Licensing and Regulation. So, not only did we adhere to the rules, but we proactively stopped long before. we needed to because our meteorologists.

were able to see that there was. impending risk. If you. I mean, I I had a I had a handful of. friends reach out to me after, you know, after the flood had happened and. all of the questions were exactly the. same. Did Augustus Doro cause this? And. you I'm not a scientist. I don't know. And you know, all I know is what I. learned in our interview together. And.

this was, you know, I kind of expressed. this in the interview. This is what. everybody is scared to death of is of. something like this happening. But, you. know, going back to your interview, I. mean, I remember, if I remember. correctly, you said. >> you the the window of opportunity for it. to rain after you see the cloud is 15 to. 45 minutes. Correct. >> Max 2 hours, but generally within the. hour. Yeah. >> So, I mean, I don't I I just I don't and. I don't see a, you know, a a small.

mediumsized drone. being able to create, you know, that. much devastation. How many How many. drones were you guys using? >> So, in Texas, we we use airplanes. Not. drones. >> Used airplanes. >> Um, we use airplanes. However, right, uh, these airplanes are like six-seater. aircraft. They're not the high altitude. jetliners or stuff. That's worth saying. because I think a lot of people hear. about cloud seating, they'll look up and. see these trails in the sky, they'll. think that that's cloud seating, that's. not cloud seating, right? Um whether you.

believe that those long trails in the. sky are condensation trails or. chemtrails, and I don't think that they. are chemtrails. I haven't seen evidence. for it. A lot of people have sent me uh. the movie The Dimming. Have you heard of. this? >> No, I've not I've not seen it. There's. there's this uh piece on um. geoengineering and and the risks of of. solar radiation modification and. potentially chemtrails that a lot of. people have sent to me. I'm not. compelled by that evidence, frankly. Anyway, all that to say, uh I am totally.

open-minded to the notion that there. could be nefarious stuff from state. actors. Um we know that China is. investing $1.4 billion into their. weather modification program. As of our. last conversation, it was 300 million. They just ramped it up to 1.4 billion. per year. >> Um, so we we do know that they're. interested in that. We do know that the. Chinese are interested in that. Uh, I. don't believe that any of those. contrails are in fact chemtrails, but.

these airplanes were flying at this one. airplane to be clear was flying at 1,600. ft above ground level. Um, so another. important detail is the altitude where. at we were flying means that those. particulate uh fell. >> It seems like the weight of it would. would I mean they wouldn't be able to. travel that far at 1,600 ft. That's just. not that high. >> Exactly. >> But. have you seen this uh video that Nicole. Shanahan put out.

>> by chance? Jeremy, can you roll that. real quick? I just want to get your. reaction to this. Hey everybody. So EPA administrator Lee. Zeldon announced today that his agency. will finally release detailed. information on geoengineering. If you followed me for a while, you know. this is something I care deeply about. So this feels like the right moment to. share. I have been speaking with a. whistleblower um over the past several. weeks who has helped me really. understand what's happening in our. skies. Uh they have given me information.

that could shed real light on these. programs, who's behind them, where the. funding's coming from, and what we can. do to stop them. Um I'll be posting an. article on my ex feed later today, so. please stay tuned. >> What do you think she's talking about. with this whistleblower? I mean, we. obviously know who's behind it. Where. does the funding come from? >> Funding comes from the Texas weather. modification, whatever group that you. were talking about. Correct. >> So note, she said geoengineering. >> Mhm. I don't do geoengineering. I do.

weather modification. And that. difference is really important. Cloud. seating is a kind of weather. modification. And it's weather. modification because it's. >> local in both time and space, right? Like it affects an individual county. over the course of hours. Geoengineering. is a global climate intervention like. dimming the sun that is aimed at cooling. the entire planet down where the. aerosols dispersed into the stratosphere. would persist for years. Um.

the funding for our cloud seating. operations come from these counties and. farms that we work with. Uh the federal. government spent $2.4 4 million on cloud. seating research last year and that was. all that they'd spent in years since. Um. we don't do any work with the federal. government. Um if we do I'll be happy to. tell people about that. Um with respect. to geoengineering. uh I'm interested to see what she says.

uh the. statement that Lee uh Zeldon gave I. think yesterday on transparently. accounting for what contrails are, what. geoengineering activities exist, I think. that that is absolutely a step in the. right direction. Like I think if if. people are trusted with information, if. the government is able to disclose to us. what activities are going on, I think. that people will rightfully either feel. more safe and comfortable about these.

technologies or feel less safe about. them and then we can regulate. appropriately. Right? So the. whistleblower that she's alluding to, I. suspect I know who that is. Um, without. getting into whether they're a credible. source or not, um, I'll just say to all. of like the Make America Healthy Again. people, I am super empathetic. Like, I. want clean water. I want clean air. I. want clean food. I'm into regenerative. agriculture. I don't think manipulating.

the weather is the only way to get more. water on the ground for a more. productive agricultural base. But, I. think that cloud seeding is one way to. do that. And so in so far as Nicole is. interested in talking about uh how to. make America healthy again, how to. ensure that our skies and our climate is. clean, like I am totally down to do that. and appreciate at least the the. sentiment around inquiring about what's. going on. >> Mhm. I mean, my inclination is she's talking about.

you, >> you know, whether she she put the word. geoengineering in or cloud sitting. I. mean, the timing, she's got to be. talking about you. >> Mhm. >> And. I mean, she's obviously very concerned. I mean, everybody's very concerned. I'm. concerned. >> And u But I mean, as far as this. whistleblower, you don't have to name a. name because, you know, it's it's, you. know, it's it's it's not factual yet. But. >> let's What position does this person. hold and why would they not be credible?

Um, if it is who I think it is, and it might. not be right. I uh I think it's someone. that used to uh work in a part of the. Air Force that was unrelated to any. clandestine operations or uh attempts at. cloud seating or geoengineering. um but. I think has made a name for themsself in. posting inflammator inflammatory false.

information about this and that that. gets into a bigger point right um over. the course of the last few days me fine. a lot of people have offered death. threats so be it right like I'm happy to. continually. engage in good faith with the questions. and concerns that people have because. emotions are running high right now for. good reason like there has been a. natural disaster and a tragedy. Part of the problem is that there are. these accounts online, be they anonymous. or even public figures, right? Like.

government figures, politicians. People. have come out and knowingly posted false. information or uh insinuated in their. posts that cloud seeding had something. to do with these floods despite knowing. that there's no way it possibly could. have. And they've done so either for. Elon Bucks on X or just to rally. political support to them from people. that are rightfully concerned about the. consequences of this technology but.

don't yet know the facts. And I think. that manipulating people into a frenzy. and a mob to make a scapegoat not just. of me but of people unrelated to our. cloud seating operations that is. reprehensible. Um, I will always because. our Lord was forgiving be willing to. forgive and break bread with people that. have done this. Um, but that will stop. That has to stop. I would do anything to protect my.

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know people are they're [ __ ] pissed, man. I mean it's a lot of death and a. lot of missing people, a lot of kids. And you know when you brought up China. earlier and and and what how much did. they. >> 1.4 billion. >> 1.4 billion invested. >> per year. >> Have you research have you done any. research on if China's cloud seeding. program has caused any any flooding or. is there any is there any evidence of.

this happening with anybody else that's. doing this type of stuff? Because we did. see it in Dubai. >> We did see it in Dubai. Um, so you. wouldn't be surprised to find out that. China is not extraordinarily open about. their program. Um, >> what we do know is this. We know that. they're investing all of this money. We. know that they have 35,000 employees in. their weather modification program. We. know that they have two universities. that offer bachelor's degrees in weather. engineering, right? Um, we know that. China has stated explicitly that they.

intend to export their cloud seating and. weather modification systems around the. world and are probably interested in. doing so, not just for the sake of. benevolently producing water, but for. the sake of one, uh, having leverage. over countries for whom they produce. water. And two, like we know that cloud. seeding has before been used as a. weapon. We know that the Environmental. Modification Treaty came out in the 70s. to ban weaponized weather modification.

internationally because the United. States used cloud seating during the. Vietnam War to flood the Ho Chi Min. Trail. Do I think that cloud seeding. wholesale should be banned because of. that and American farmers and ecosystems. and cities and reservoirs shouldn't be. able to use cloud seating to produce. more water? Uh, no. I I think that would. be not just an overcorrection but like. unsound policy. But should there be. radical transparency? Should there be. serious regulation and permitting around. this? Should there be reporting so that.

people are able to scrutinize the. information from cloud seating. activities? And should there be. monitoring from institutions like Noah. or the National Weather Service to look. for nefarious or malevolent weather. modification operations? Yeah, absolutely. Can you change the color of. rain? No. I saw all these things on X. where people were claiming it's I think. they were claiming it's your rain. because it came down blue and there's. all these videos out there. >> There's no there's no discoloration of. the rain at all.

>> Not at all. Uh when we cloud seed and. create these snowflakes, right? Um the. initial snowflakes that are created are. created by water freezing onto the. silver iodide, right? But then those. snowflakes break apart and create more. snowflakes and you get this chain. reaction uh where you know the the. concentration of silver iodide is. dimminimous. Like like I said before uh. after decades of operating we've only. seen as much as an increase in like. eight parts per trillion of silver.

iodide in soil where cloud seeding is. occurring. There's already two parts per. million in most American soil. So like. if even it is a statistically. significant result after decades of. operation, cloud seeding has added a. million times less than what's naturally. there. So there's no adverse ecological. effects at all. Certainly not enough to. change the color of the rain. Um I don't. know what that was. Uh I hope it's not. more deliberate. >> content. Yeah. Um,

>> I mean, can you talk about the size of. the two clouds that she seated versus. the tropical storm? >> Mhm. >> Like what what's the ratio here? >> Uh, like a million times a million times the. the remnants of the tropical storm were. a million times larger than. >> Is that a factual number? >> Million times an approximation. What I'm. what I'm getting at there is the best. cloud seating operations that have. occurred to date have produced tens of. millions of gallons. That storm produced.

like 4 trillion gallons of. precipitation. So that's roughly on. order of magnitude like a 100,000 to a. million times larger than the best cloud. seating operations could could yield in. terms of water. >> Other than the volume, how about the. area? Um, yeah, I I don't want to. perjure myself here, so I'll be as. specific as possible and people can look. at the report that I posted online with. all of the radar data on these cells, but um, significantly smaller than the.

area of a county. Um, we're talking in. terms of acres here, not like tens of. square miles. Mhm. Mhm. What are some what are some of the other. things that people are saying? Um. [Music]. uh you know I think I think a lot of. people are saying that um. me coming out and trying to be public.

about this. Some people appreciate the. cander and appreciate the transparency. Um, some people think that by uh going. out and talking to all these people, like it's clearly some sort of scop. Um, some people have said that, uh, you. know, Augustus clearly isn't responsible. and Cloud Seeding isn't to blame, but. he's the fall guy for some larger. nefarious operation. >> Um, >> I don't yet have reason to believe that. that's true. I certainly hope that's not. true. If that is true, uh, then we have.

to find out. Um the way to do so I think. one is through submitting freedom of. information uh requests to all of the. relevant federal agencies about what. weather modification research or. activities they do have going on and. then going forward like reporting. accountability and regulation more. permitting from the federal government. Um and it's not to say that like at this. point in time people totally trust the. federal government, right? I am very.

empathetic to that. I do not think that. they are always great at. >> Nobody trusts the federal government. Yeah. Especially with all the [ __ ] right. now with the Epstein stuff. >> No way. No [ __ ] way. The P Diddy. [ __ ] the Epstein stuff, all within a. week. >> Nobody trusts federal government. Then. we go the last four years. That's that's going to take a long time. before anybody trusts the US government. It's just it's just the it's just the.

way it is, you know. I mean, >> totally. >> They got to give us a reason to trust. them. >> Yeah. >> So far, that hasn't happened. >> No, I agree. And I mean, another thing. that keeps coming up, right, is like we. will say something to the effect of like. cloud seeding is a useful or effective. way to produce more water for farms and. ecosystems, and it's totally safe. And. then people will say, "Oh, safe and. effective. Safe and effective. We've. heard that before, right? Doesn't sound. so safe and effective. um that is a really hard portion of the.

information landscape that we operate in. now. Um I think the only solutions to. that are to the extent there are any. good people left in the government um. them scrutinizing this and then me. continuing to provide as much. information as I can and answering as. many questions as I can. You know, there's people with like four followers. on Twitter that ask me some question. about silver iodide toxicity. Uh, and I. am trying to respond to every single one. of those. >> I see you doing it. I see you doing it.

I mean, what what are some things I. mean, have you learned anything out of. this? What have you taken away? Um, well, for one, I would say. despite all of our attempts to save. money federally and cut the budget, right? um which in the abstract I am in.

favor of uh cutting the budget in a way. that prevents us from building critical. infrastructure for either forecasting or. severe weather alerts and flood alerts. Um. that can happen. Um if we had better. flash flood sensors on the Guadalupe, we. could have notified people significantly. earlier. Um, if we had better. forecasting, by we, you mean. >> not rain maker, but the US government? Yeah. Um, the National Weather Service,

uh, or local fire departments even. They. were trying to warn people earlier. I. don't know if you heard those phone. calls. Um, but that was pretty hard to. listen to. Um, that's one thing. Uh, another thing. is um. I think that. although net net because of how. supportive people have been and. receptive to. information and earnest dialogue like I.

in a certain sense I've I've developed a. lot more faith in the American people. and our government. Um, I also do know, uh, and this has been pretty upsetting. to learn, that there are people once. again who know that Cloud Seeding and. Rain Maker and I had nothing to do with. these floods, who despite knowing that. are trying to find a way to pin the. blame on me in some sort of. investigation or otherwise to drum up. political support or,

you know, get the heat off of them. Um, >> are you open to a full-blown. investigation? >> Obviously, that'd be inconvenient, but I. have nothing to hide. >> Mhm. >> So, yeah, I I I think that the. overwhelming amount of evidence that. we've provided that any meteorologist. can corroborate, that any atmospheric. scientist or hydraologist or otherwise. can look into, even any individual. person, just look at the timeline and. the facts. I I think that it's all. pretty clear that there's nothing that. we did that could have affected this.

That said, if it came down to it, yeah, fine. Sure. Um I am happy to provide any. any information should there be an. investigation. I will happily engage. with authorities as is necessary should. they so choose. >> Has there been any talk of that? >> Yeah. What would it take what would it. take to. or is it even possible to 100%. prove. to the American people that it was it. had nothing to do with cloud sitting? Is.

it is it possible to prove that? and if. so, how how would you do it? >> So, for one, I would say that the. information that we have reported on. already from our meteorologists does. prove that. Now, beyond just what we've reported on. our flight tracks, on our flight times, on the amount of material dispersed, on. the clouds that we seated and how. quickly they dissipated, on the. dissipation of the aerosols, and the. fact that we only dispersed 70 g, like 8.

to 10 Skittles worth of material a day. in advance of when the flooding began. Despite all of that, I think that is. 100% proof unto itself. If we were to do more, um, you could get atmospheric scientists. to run simulations on where the aerosols. would have gone, how that would have. affected precipitation patterns and the. pressure systems in the vicinity. And. you could doubly with like rigorous. academic papers and publishing. Again, not that people are going to defer to.

that sort of authority or credential, but you could do that as well to further. corroborate this. But like, I promise. you that you'll be hardressed to find a. capable meteorologist that thinks this. had anything to do with it and is not. 100% convinced it did not. What else should I be asking you? Um,

you know, I think uh I think. There's maybe like two last points just. to to think about here. The first of. which again just to give like scale in. context here. Uh we haven't really. gotten into like whether silver iodide. is healthy or not, right? Um whether. it's safe to use during cloud seating. operations. Um I think when you just. intuit it how little we're dispersing on. these missions, you can kind of get a. sense that it's safe. Um, but for scale,

right? Like, and and again, I want to. make America healthy again. Like, I'm. totally pro clean food, clean air, clean. water, regenerative regenerative. agriculture is great, etc. Just in terms. of scale of what sort of toxins we're. exposed to right now, Americans consume. like 2 billion kilos of pesticides every. year. We consume a commensurate amount. of herbicides every year. We are wearing.

microlastics, right? There is. microplastic and we mentioned this in. the last time we chatted and that is. kind of like the biggest clip. Like. there is birth control metabolites in. the water that we drink. Like we are. exposed to an inordinate amount of. toxins all the time that uh either we. deem sufficiently safe because of how. little we consume on a day-to-day basis. or that like is not great for us and we. should transition away from but is not. like killing people or causing. respiratory issues or causing cancer uh.

in in an enormous way. The amount of. material that we're using 70 gram in an. operation is what is that? That's like. 10 100 billion times less than like the. total amount of herbicides and. pesticides that people are consuming. every year. And uh. >> like I hope someday to be a big company. I hope sometime scale our operations. meaningfully and to produce lots of. water for people that are in need. Again, obviously not flash flood alley. and in the Texan Hill Country when there.

has been flooding, but like uh one the. amount of material that we're using from. silver for for the amount of silver IDA. that we're using for these cloud seating. operations, it is dimminimous relative. to all these other things we're exposed. to on a daily basis. And even so, Rain. Maker will, just for PR sake, just for. the sake of making people feel safe, we. will eventually transition away from. silver iodide into something totally. biodegradable, totally organic. Um, just. because,

uh, I think that's another way to build. trust. And it is going to continue to be. our responsibility to do everything we. can to earn the trust of people that. have appropriate skepticism and concerns. about all of this. Do you mind if I make. a suggestion? You know, I think, you know, when you're. talking about transparency, that's what. everybody wants with everything. They. want transparency on COVID. They want. transparency on Epstein. They want. transparency on Diddy. They want. transparency on Cloud City. They want.

transparency on. you name it. I mean, that's just where. we're at. Like I said, there's there is. little to no faith in the US government. on either side at this point. And so, you know, for you, something that you. may want to think about is document. every single time you do this video, radar, whatever the hell you have to do, you know, and I realize for safety. concerns, maybe you can't announce like,

hey, we're going to be cloud seating in. Salt Lake City today, but or maybe you. can, you know, maybe you can and and and. document in every. second of what happens, you know, or. maybe you do it afterwards. Hey, I just. want everybody to know we did a cloud. seating operation in Salt Lake City. Here's the entire video. Here's the. radar. Here's everything. This is how. much precipitation happened. And you. know, maybe maybe and I don't want to.

look like I'm taking a side here, you. know, cuz I'm not. But I mean, people, that's what it's going to take. It's. going to take transparency and it's. going to take case studies of how this. goes, you know, and so, so by, you know, by by. building these case studies and. documenting every single thing you're. doing, you build, I mean, basically what. you're building is a portfolio of, hey, we did it here, we did it here, we did. it here, we did it here. This is how. long it lasted. This is how long it took. it to rain. It was within the 15 to 45.

minute window that I that I said this. would happen or the 15 to two hours or. whatever it is. and and and you kick. those out to the public every single. time. You know, I don't I don't know if. that's possible, but that's something. that I'd be looking at because. otherwise, you know, there's always. there will just always be distrust. >> You know what the crazy thing about that. is, Sean? >> You already do it. Do you already do. that? >> We are regulatory required to do that.

already. All of these reports are. publicly available on state government. websites right now. Um, should rain. makers start announcing those ourselves? Sure, totally. Absolutely. Um, I think. that's a good idea and I appreciate the. suggestion there. Uh, but we already. have to do that in order to be permitted. to operate in these states. Like these. states back when they made these. regulations, they realized, you know, this is going to be a big deal uh in. terms of like what its consequences. could be. And also like people are going.

to want to know what's going on. They. have a right to know what's going on. Like the government lying to them all. the time, people lying to them all the. time. That's unacceptable. I really care about this country. Um and. I will not lie about any of what we're. doing. So I I'll I'll start making those. things more available online. Um at the. very least for the time being, uh we. cannot do real-time reporting. Um, there. are simply too many death threats. Oh,

this is what I uh was referencing. earlier in terms of uh American. terrorist organizations. Um, there is a militia in Oklahoma that is. running around uh blowing up and. dismantling radar systems. Um they. believe that the weather radar that's. being used to monitor. cloud conditions, what we're using to. forecast severe weather is directing. energy into these clouds and into the. atmosphere such that it is creating.

severe weather. Um I think that the FBI. is investigating them. But uh yeah, like. it is not just. concerned or emotional people online. It's not just paranoid schizophrenics. um like there are organized militias. that are uh. wrongfully trying to destroy our. nation's critical infrastructure for. weather sensing right now. Um and that.

also don't care too much for rain maker. There has been severe flooding across. the United States in the past week, right? And people are. uh drawing conclusions and correlations. between that, right? Like uh in New. Mexico there's flash flooding. Um, in. North Carolina there was flash flooding. There was, I think, flooding in Chicago. and thunderstorms there. Um, we don't. operate at all in either Chicago or in. New Jersey or in North Carolina. Uh, we. have operated before in New Mexico. Our.

program ended there on June 30th. Um, so. the flash flooding that happened uh. after the 4th um had nothing to do with. us. We also have posted those reports. Um, I think the I think the two. conclusions from all of this severe. weather again are one like we clearly. need better forecasting capabilities, right? Like we need to be able to. forecast and alert people to these. things far before when we're doing so. now in order to keep them safe. And the.

second thing is. again I don't have evidence yet to. suggest that there are state actors. participating in malicious weather. modification but if we don't have a more. serious regulatory framework to monitor. this stuff like how even would we know? >> Mhm. >> You know another thing I mean has have. any major news outlets reached out to. you for a statement to come on the news. anything? Uh yeah, so I was uh on Fox,

>> okay, >> two days ago. Uh I was on CNN um last. night. Uh I was on a handful of other. programs. Interestingly enough, um. you know, it's funny uh because we'll. get some group, be it mainstream media. or some sort of new media or some sort. of written piece to lay out the facts. and outline uh you know, what's true and. what's not. And I wonder if like going.

on mainstream media like Fox and CNN. actually hurt my case because people. just said like, "Well, don't trust them. either. This is clearly an op.". Um. maybe it's better for the general public. and sentiment, but uh I'm grateful that. we had the opportunity to talk to them. In a certain sense, there's almost like, yeah, to your point, like no, nobody. trusts anybody anymore. So, I'm not. exactly sure what to do other than. continue to publish this information. that that would make it trustworthy. >> Well, I think I mean, it's a it's.

how do I say this? I mean, it's it's a I. mean, it's just a it's a it's a. technology that people know little to. nothing about. And you know, we're. seeing all these crazy things happen. like the wildfires in California, the. wildfires in in in in Hawaii and the you. know, the flood that just happened and. hurricane Helen and I mean it's just. for whatever reason, you know, this.

stuff seems relatively new and. getting the info out there like you're. doing. I mean, it's it's going to take a. lot of education to build any trust at. all. Mhm. >> And uh so I mean. >> I think you're being I feel like you're. being as transparent as you possibly can.

be and and and it like I've scrolled. through your your ex account and it's it. does seem like you're trying to answer. every single question and but you know. by going on the media and I think it. think you're just going to have to. continue doing that you know to to to to. educate cake, you know, and and get. other parties doing it. But. man, man.

Well, Augustus, I I appreciate you coming. Like I said, I just wanted to hear your. piece. We literally just did that. interview what, couple weeks before this. happened and and and. I had expressed that in the interview. I. was like, this is what everybody's. worried about, >> you know, and then it happened. and and. um. Yeah. So, so I want to offer you the. opportunity here. You're a new. Christian, right? >> Mhm. >> Um going to offer you the opportunity to.

lead us in prayer for for the families. and the kids that are going through this. hardship in Texas. >> Thank you. So, heavenly father, um. we're praying for the families in Texas, uh for the children affected, um for the. children that are with you now. uh for. the consolation of all the families that. have lost. For the first responders and. rescue workers that have.

seen so much and been through so much. and have sacrificed so much um to save. lives when they could. Um Lord, we're. praying for. safety and peace. Um we're praying that. natural disasters don't befall the. people of Texas like this again or. anymore or anybody else in the world. Um, would you help to make us resilient. in this time so that we can stick. through the difficulties that come when. tragedy strikes? We're praying for.

communities to rise up together so that. they might be able to help one another, their brothers and sisters and you, um, when they do lose. For all of those, not. just the first responders, but for all. of those uh, people in government that. have tried to help. For all of the. families that have made food trains and. that have donated and that have tried to. participate in the relief, we thank you. Um would you please provide us peace and. resolve? Um would you help us to be true. and kind and generous to our neighbors.

in this time? And would you help for us. to get closer to you in the depths of. this difficulty? um so that we might. build a world and a country and. communities that better resemble the. kingdom that you desire that we live in. In Jesus name we pray. Amen. >> Amen. Well said. All right, Augustus. Well, I appreciate appreciate you making. the trip out here and and uh and giving. us your peace and educating us on, you.

know, your side of what happened and and. um thank you. And uh just one last. thing, I just want to reiterate that. donation link to help the families and. the tragedy that's happened down there. Links in the description. And um you. know, I'd hope that I hope this episode. gets a lot of money to the people that. need it to rebuild their families and. their homes and and just all the tragic. events that have happened down there. So, please donate. That people need your. help. >> Thank you, Sean. All right.

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