Andrew Bustamante - CIA Spy / U.S. vs China - The New Cold War | SRS #52 (Part 2)

hey everybody welcome back to the. two-part series last week we talked all. about the Russia Ukraine conflict and. how the United States is so heavily. involved in that and why this week we. cover one of the most terrifying topics. I think of today and that is the China. threat we're going to go over. all the things that they have their. hands in how they may or may not be. controlling the United States and the. rest of the globe.

and what it looks like if these certain. scenarios play out. extremely informative. very very factual we brought in the. Resident expert on the topic. Andrew Bustamante the guy is a wealth of. knowledge when it comes to China I think. you guys are really going to enjoy this. ladies and Gentlemen let's get to the. show please like comment subscribe go. over to Apple podcasts and Spotify leave. us a review tell us how we're doing and. if you get anything out of these shows.

anything at all. share it share it with everyone you know. this is real stuff that's very important. I think everybody needs to be educated. on this topic it becomes more and more. of a threat every day all right. with that being said let's keep it. positive I love you all thank you for. being here and enjoy the show Cheers. previously on the Sean Ryan Show what is. it about you that you think they found.

interesting I think they knew that I was. an Air Force Academy graduate from the. time that I turned 17 my entire life has. been in service to the federal. government conflict seems to be all. around us these days the real reason the. United States is involved in Ukraine is. because as long as we keep a proxy war. happening in a third world country like. Ukraine we're wasting Russian resources. if the war in Ukraine ends Russia starts.

to rebuild in concert with China and now. we have two enemies. and as we waste and deplete Russian. resources we only have to compete. against one other country in the world. China. [Music]. in the United States we might be like. Russia's destroyed that's awesome Paris. took a bomb that sucks Americans are. still safe high five. right that's how we think here that's. how we have to be here if we're really.

thinking about a world that that is led. by the United States as their economic. superpower. that's how we think I'm going to split. this into a two-part series let's let's. let's take a break and then we'll come. back we'll pick up in China. all right Andrew we're back from the. break and we're getting into China. so we have a ton to cover with China so.

I'm just gonna kick it off I don't even. know where to start but I know that's. how it feels right right that's exactly. how it feels but it seems like China's. goal is global domination or at least. they want to become the the next. superpower the new the next Global. superpower. I think a good place to start is. recently in the news. It's Been Everywhere have you heard this. lab leak most likely caused pandemic.

energy Department says it's from The New. York Times yeah I know you're I mean the. this is an a fantastic example. of. it's a fantastic example of how bad the. government is sometimes at doing their. own job yeah right so the department of. energy basically ran a study and then. they weren't careful enough in the use. of their terminology and then this this.

uh a line out of place essentially turns. into this gigantic media Frenzy. that is essentially trying to say that. the government is confirming that the. coronavirus came from a lab in China. yeah it so this exactly I mean I think. this is a fantastic place to start. because multiple government agencies. have looked into this and have reviewed. the findings that the department of. energy used to make their statement and. they've all confirmed that there is not. enough evidence to be able to refute or.

deny that coronavirus is either natural. or man-made from a lab. but Department of energy. did their own thing right didn't. properly but it didn't properly. communicate it so we've got this open. question now about is the government. trying to hide something can we say that. it was developed in a lab whatever else. it might be. it's important to me because. there's a lot of. rightfully so there's a lot of very.

concerned and upset people about covid. right about coronavirus or the novel. coronavirus that became covid19's you. know uh causing factor and it's it's. been it's been a core facet of Our Lives. whether we like it or not for the better. part of what 45 months I think like it's. a long time it's been a long time real. quick before we dive into this because I. want to I want to hit coronavirus so. this is we've been talking about I've.

talked about it you've talked about it. I've heard it on interviews how the. media is essentially just a bunch of. [ __ ] nowadays and so here this is. just one article that I pulled up I. pulled up New York Times. and like I said the headline is lab leak. most likely caused pandemic energy. Department says then if we read here. new intelligence has prompted energy. Department to conclude that an. accidental laboratory leak in China most. likely caused the coronavirus pandemic.

through U.S spy agencies remain divided. over the origins of the virus American. officials said on Sunday the conclusion. was a change from the Department's. earlier position that it was undecided. on how the virus emerged then this is. where it gets interesting. some officials briefed on the. intelligence said that it was a. relatively weak or I'm sorry said that. it was relatively weak and that the. energy Department's conclusion was made.

with low confidence suggesting its level. of certainty was not high while the. department shared the information with. other agencies none of them changed. their conclusion officials said so I'm. not going to read the entire article but. that just goes to show you that. you can't just read the headlines. exactly right especially not when it. comes to intelligence or anything based. on intelligence so you heard a couple of. words in there right we heard the word. likely and then we heard the word. confidence there's a grid when when in.

professional intelligence agencies. collect intelligence they have to run. that intelligence through a grid like a. vetting process so that when they. communicate to somebody else they can. communicate using the same terminology. so if you're NSA I'm CIA somebody else's. DIA. we all have our own language inside our. departments I mean you know as well as I. do the military has its own language CIA. has its own language you can't it's. really hard for two people from.

different agencies to have a. straightforward conversation. so when you talk about intelligence they. create tools so that we can communicate. in common terms likeliness and. confidence are two of those terms that. that are that are pretty well structured. so that all the different agencies can. communicate transparently with each. other. problem is it only works with each other. it doesn't work with the media so. likeliness has to do with how probable. something is. confidence has to do with your the way.

you vetted the information itself. so something can be high likely like. highly likely and high confidence that. means it's a high probability and we. have strong faith in the information. something can also be very likely but we. have low confidence in the information. right so it means we do believe that. there's a high probability this is what. happened but the information that we. have to support that conclusion is very.

weak. we can also have situations where. something is not likely and we have high. confidence in the information right and. all that changes the probabilities so. when agencies speak to each other which. is what you were just reading right uh. doe was talking to other intelligence. agencies and they're all divided because. some say that it had high likelihood and. some say that it was low confidence. that's that's them speaking a language. that the average person doesn't. understand and then you throw in the New. York Times They just want to get you to. click on the headline yep.

and then the conclusion is the. conclusion is Bogus the conclusion on. the headline isn't actually supported by. the context of the article yeah how is. that legal I know right it's it's. people need to get over the fact that. they're just. they're just reading bumper stickers all. the time that's all it is it's a. fantastic way of putting it you know but. back to China. what are your thoughts was it in a lab. so was this an act of War.

I will say no I do not think it was an. act of War I'm good. yeah very good right. my understanding from my own education. and my own experience with the Chinese. is that culturally. the Chinese are completely different. than Americans right Americans and. Chinese alike we we think like our. culture. it doesn't matter whether you're gender. specific whether you're gender neutral.

whether you're old young educated. uneducated doesn't matter the color of. your skin Americans think like Americans. we think through a lens of capitalism. and opportunity and equality and. fairness and freedom we all think. through that we just might. disagree on exactly what it looks like. Chinese people also all think through a. Chinese lens and part of that Chinese. lens is a 5 000 year history. of being Chinese. a big part of that lens is bringing.

honor to your family name being the. person who protects the honor that your. parents and your grandparents and your. great-grandparents have put into. protecting your family name and not. being the one to ruin it right in the. United States we love change I love the. fact that I am changing the future of my. last name that's not the same to a. Chinese person they many ways if they're. going to change if they're going to take. a risk to change their family heritage. they're also risking failing and if they.

fail their Endeavor it's going to bring. dishonor to their family name so they're. a completely different mindset than. Americans right. another part of that Chinese lens is. this idea that China in Chinese the word. for China is Jungle which means the. center Kingdom. so everything the Chinese do everything. the politburo does everything senior. Chinese officials think of is all. through this lens of China being the.

center Kingdom it doesn't mean they have. to be uh it doesn't mean they have to be. rulers of the world. but they do have to be the biggest. kingdom. so superpower the modern day superpower. idea fits them culturally very very well. there can be other powers. but they are the most powerful okay. right there can be other countries but. they're in the center of everything when. you think about how they set up their.

model of of Supply Chain management when. you think about how they've Consolidated. Rare Earth minerals and you think about. how they've Consolidated intellectual. property from all over Europe and Latin. America and the United States you can. see they centralize everything it's. called the central party like they. centralize they want to put themselves. at the center of the Hub and spoke. that's very different than the United. States right we want to be the thing. that breaks the wheel. so culturally they have this need to. this this predisposition to being the.

center of it all being the the most. powerful but not the World Police they. don't want everybody to be a Communist. party we want every other country to be. a democracy. that's failed as I don't know how many. times how many Gulf wars did we go. through because we couldn't make that. happen yeah. they don't want everybody to be a. communist country but they do want to be. the most powerful country and be. communist themselves why do you think. I love everything you just said but it.

doesn't answer my question why do you. think that. what makes you believe that the. coronavirus was not released and was not. an act of war with everything else that. they have going on I'm just going to run. through some stuff these are all. categories I want to talk about but you. know to me. on top of all this stuff I'll get to it. so I mean they own the supply chain. there's the fentanyl crisis they're. they're aiding the cartels with the. fentanyl crisis they're buying up our.

Farmland they're influencing our. politicians they're influencing big Tech. then we have the tick tock debacle well. the Spy balloons have been flying over. the U.S we got the propaganda War. they're trying to take Taiwan they're. settling Africa they were there to. negotiate with Afghanistan before we. ever even pulled out. then. there's the lab leak supposedly. so it seems like.

and I'm sure there's more that I'm not. thinking of but. with all these things happening there's. the race to AI which he's already said. the person that wins the race to AI is. going to achieve global domination with. with all these things that they have in. place and and and they're winning on how. do why what makes you think that the. coronavirus was not an act of War on top. of that. why they were never held accountable. ever by anybody in the world it was like.

it was like the Chinese just got a free. pass and they just. I mean the world is a complete disaster. right now yeah no I get it so I would. say there's. there's three reasons I don't think it. was an act of war the first is that. China their strategic MO is to do things. quietly not to do things loud and noisy. coronavirus the way it happened was loud.

and noisy. it broke out in their country first and. then they tried to get it under control. and they were I mean the world knew. there was a virus in China that they. were trying to control that's not quiet. right everything else on that list. from Hypersonic missiles to the AI War. Takata to Growing infrastructure in. Africa that's all quiet you have to look. to find that you didn't have to look to. find out about the coronavirus outbreak. the second reason I don't think it was. an intentional Act of war is because.

where did swine flu come from. China. where did bird flu come from. China. China has a history of unsanitary. experimental conditions where novel. natural viruses are born and spread. and I I don't mean this is a 50-year. history I mean this is like a 15-year. history. bird flu swine flu coronavirus which was. another a coronavirus is a type of flu.

virus right these were all novel viruses. originating in China that spread around. the world China was never held. accountable for any of them but at the. same time it's a pattern of behavior. right it's a pattern that shows. disgusting unsanitary conditions if. you've ever gotten a chance to see even. just a Chinese restaurant in China it's. filthy like they do not have the health. and sanitation standards we have in the. United States they don't have to their. population is different their culture is. different everything's different.

so it's a it's a petri dish for. disgusting things to happen and for for. new natural evolutions of viruses to. take place so because of that track. record coronavirus behaved exactly the. same way as the other viruses a breakout. in China that's spread throughout the. world. and then the third reason that I don't. believe it was an act of war is because. China China will pull the trigger. when they want something but they pull. that trigger at a strategically.

beneficial Point like they did in Hong. Kong right when they took Hong Kong. China took Hong Kong in weeks. they pull the trigger when everything. was lined up and everything was ready. they made a decisive action and they. they took it and the world had nothing. to say about it right when China moves. on Taiwan and I've I fully expect China. will move on Taiwan before we've. identified our next president. right I I 100 agree with that they will.

make that move it will be decisive it. will be fast it will be backed by. multiple secondary and tertiary support. efforts it will not be. a debacle like kovid was the these are. all the reasons why I don't believe it. was an act of War could they have been. developing biological antigens. biological weapons or biological defense. they could have been possibly. everything's a possibility right I would. even say that that could be pot like. that could be in the place of like 40 to.

70 percent probable. but we don't have any information to. support that maybe it's out there and we. just haven't seen it. but. but for me when I take a look at all the. all the data that I do have. I I see the history of swine flu bird. flu I see the history of how they. operate in Hong Kong and I see I see the. fact that that coronavirus was handled. like a like a freaking disaster that. does not strike me as an intentional Act. of War why do you think there was no.

repercussions. so my guess is that the reason that we. haven't seen repercussions is because of. what happened when it hit the Democratic. world. you can't let's just look at the United. States it's easy for us to remember the. United States it first hit the United. States When Donald Trump was president. and Trump. made a big deal out of saying it's we. don't know what it is it's a virus don't. panic. right it was Don't Panic Don't Panic. Don't Panic as liberal media and the.

opposite Viewpoint to the Republican. party was panicking counting once you. start counting sick people and Counting. beds and Counting dead it didn't it. didn't serve Us in Vietnam it didn't. serve Us in Afghanistan or Iraq why. would we think it's going to serve US. during the coronavirus outbreak right so. now everybody's worried about numbers. without having any context for those. numbers without actually doing the Deep. research if you remember how many bad. medical journal articles came out how. much the the what was it the uh.

it was like the the American. Center for Disease Control the CDC came. out and said early on that there's no. evidence that coronavirus can spread. from Human to Human. right do you remember that they made a. freaking meme out of it with like a. little boy on his Grandpa's shoulders or. some garbage. they were so wrong. so with in the middle of all this then. we have a an election year and a change. in president and then once coronavirus.

was deemed not a superbug then it became. a political issue once it became a. political issue somebody had to had to. run on a platform about coronavirus. Biden won he had to do something about. coronavirus because he had just one on. that platform so he pours money into. vaccines and pours any forces vaccine. among government employees and we all. know what happened from there. the U.S dollar how many of you out there. still have any confidence whatsoever in.

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essentially the United States government. got behind the idea that coronavirus was. a major issue and every other first. world country followed our lead there's. no walking that back. there's no you can't fund research for a. vaccination on short notice you can't. you can't create policy around a virus. that you then later on say my mistake.

you guys it really wasn't as bad as we. thought it was going to be we have a. pretty solid plan to take care of the. high risk individuals maybe we shouldn't. have put so much money into a race for a. vaccine maybe we did some things wrong. the government can't say that they can't. admit their mistakes but what they can. do is try to push to focus us the. American public on something else. that's why I think they were never held. accountable because if the United States. government was to say China you your bad.

Health practices made this happen that. just opens the door to China being like. well your bad decision about these. Health practices made it into something. that it wasn't. right did we did our Labs potentially. leak a virus yes well I'm not a virus if. you do rewind they're China had an. overreaction if we had an overreaction. then they definitely had an overreaction. because they were welding. apartment door shut you know what I mean.

and they were I mean arresting people. had people in mop suits they had they. were disinfecting factories and so and. and so as severe as the response was. here in the U.S it was more severe there. so I don't. the difference is how could they claim. that nobody followed China. did what China did. nobody took action until we took action. after the United States started started.

uh locking people up and or locking. people locking up businesses and forcing. people to work from home and shutting. down travel after that that's when you. saw everybody else start to take start. to really apply the policies I remember. I was I was in the Middle East at the. time I was in the UAE at the time. things went crazy in China and the UAE. was undeter undecided how it was going. to respond lots of Chinese were coming. to and from Dubai and through and from. Abu Dhabi but you know the Emirates. didn't want to shut down all of their. economy. until they knew something was. significant right plus they have a very.

small population and a really high level. of medical technicians so they didn't. run into the risk the the over. saturation of hospitals like we had in. the United States but once the U.S. president made an issue out of it then. the emiratis made an issue out of it and. that's how things kind of tumbled so. China you're right China overreacted by. our standards but they reacted in. exactly the way you would expect a. surveillance police state you know to. behave. welding people into buildings and and.

doing other inhumane things yeah and. then you know on top of that. one of your responses when I asked why. don't you think this was an act of Wars. because they released on their own. people but we know they don't treat. their people like we treat our people. they have slavery still. your shoes are probably made from it our. phones are made from everything's made. from it you know and and and they have. an overpopulation problem so if. I don't think it would be a.

out of the realm to say maybe this was. some type of a population control thing. for China or maybe they maybe they did. release it you know upon the world to. create. everything that happened I mean you're. again considering that everything is a. possibility it becomes a question of. probability. the in my in my estimate of China they.

don't often make moves that. that have more loss than benefit and. they've lost significantly since covid. came out the we all got smart to their. role in Supply Chain management or. supply chain control we all got smart to. their their uh lack of Human Rights. their control of movement I mean those. are human rights abuses right they could. have done that for decades both of those. for decades without us ever even.

noticing it yeah Coronavirus it pulled. the veil back. not to mention the fact that then after. the United States laid off of covet. policy in Europe started pulling back. covert policy the Chinese continued a. very strict. Zero Tolerance policy. why would they do that right there's is. there the potential that they were. trying to essentially kill off their. older generation and kill off their weak. or sicker generation because we know it. targets immunocompromised individuals.

of course there's a possibility but. probability wise they lost much more. coming out of kovid than they gained. that doesn't strike me as a calculated. intentional move oh good I mean it's. just you know just. it's hard for me to believe it wasn't. when when all these other things you. know what I mean lead to lead to their. end game their goal so I don't think. that I I think you're dead on about. their end game I think you're dead on. about all of the the multi-faceted.

things that China's doing for sure. the only place where I'm Divergent is in. thinking that covet was intentional. for all we know it was a biological. weapon that they were planning to. release when they executed their end. game perhaps that's true we don't know. all I'm saying is that I have a I am. feeling like the higher probability. reason that my I am saying that the it. is low probability that they. intentionally released it in 2019 in.

Wuhan among their own people for some. Strategic Benefit. I feel like that was a mistake either a. mistake that happened naturally or a. mistake that was fabricated in a lab it. was still a mistake. that's all I'm saying because all this. stuff is legit okay well where would you. like to start well now that we've. covered covid because there's so many. there are so many. different areas. um. where do you want to start or I can pick. man let's start with whatever you think. is most interesting well let's start.

with let's start with all of the. areas of the world where they're pumping. influence into like Africa yeah building. massive massive infrastructure in Africa. these we're not talking you know little. bitty Chinese Villages we're talking. four-lane highways skyscrapers and and. putting all that infrastructure in place. to for the for all of the natural. resources that are going on there then.

we have they're taking the lithium limes. in Mexico they're buying the lithium. mines in Afghanistan and so what you're. talking about I mean this is a great. place to start. what you're talking about is something. that's known as the belt and Road. initiative the Bri right the Belton Road. initiative was something that Xi Jinping. put in motion back in I think 2017. possibly somewhere around there and it's. the idea that you can basically build a. belt a supply chain and resource belt.

all the way around the world just like. the old Silk Road that puts China at the. center of it all so now China can export. along that entire BR that whole Belt. Road and they can also import along that. whole Belt Road with the idea being that. they'll import raw materials and Export. finished products. that's the Bri. it's also it has a secondary benefit on. top of an economic benefit to China it. has a secondary benefit where it's a. chance for China to build what's known.

as soft power or influence soft power in. these third world countries that's why. the Belton Road initiative is almost all. poor poverty-stricken corrupt third. world countries. because China is an autocracy not a. democracy they don't need approval to do. business with anybody they don't need a. majority vote in Congress before they. seal a deal with a warlord in night in. Niger they don't need it they just go. into Niger and they they sign a deal. boom good to go representative of the.

government done 15 minutes and we've got. a deal in Africa or southeast Asia so. that's been their strategy. they want that influence because what. they're actually doing is they're. they're Leasing. for long periods of time access to the. mineral and the locations that they're. building so they go in build an airport. build a road build water build. everything they take Chinese employees. in to give those Chinese employees jobs. they work they create all this. infrastructure and the local country.

signs a lease that says the Chinese. government can use this for their own. purposes so now China just built 10. military bases all around the globe they. just call them airports until the time. comes that China calls in the favor on. their lease and says hey we're going to. move military transports and Military. troops. and is the country going to push back no. because the country's poor and. poverty-stricken it has no standing. military it needs the Chinese dollars it. has no relationship with the United. States because what does the United. States do to any corrupt country out. there.

stiff arm and doesn't have any. relationship with Europe why because. Europe does the same thing because. that's what the United States says you. can't do business with countries that. have human rights abuses corruption or. whatever else right so all these. countries are being ignored China can go. in for a song and get their support I. mean why why are we changing policy so. they just they win in so many ways they. win in so many ways they're I mean. they're going to own. our power struck our power ah grid yeah.

you know I mean there's this huge you. know Green initiative happening right. now in Europe and the US. we've got one they're getting all these. strategic points all over the world. they're settling you know all the places. that I mentioned then on top of that. there are they're gonna. they're gonna be the Sole Provider of. these batteries that power all the solar. equipment. for the green energy yeah so that's how.

the Chinese move. a 5 000 year old country moves slow. right they move slow and then by the. time you realize you're part of the. mudslide it's too late well how how why. are we not shifting Focus here. I mean if we have this big green. initiative. why the hell are we allowing China to. take all of the lithium mines to to make. all of the batteries all of the panels. all of the wind turbines are all. everything is coming from China. so this is so we we aren't energy.

independent we're dependent on our enemy. which would be which is asinine you hear. all these people that are in in the. right you know. they go back and they talk about how. Trump basically had told the German. Chancellor Pig you might want to get. your natural gas from somewhere besides. Russia that's your enemy now we're doing. we we sit there and we we criticize. Europe for getting their their energy.

from Russia and then we do the exact. same thing and get our energy from China. how is this getting dropped or is it on. purpose no so. there's hypocrisy absolutely this is. this is the teapot calling the kettle. black or whatever version of hypocrisy. you want to right for sure that's. happening. the other thing to keep in mind is we're. a democracy so we move at the speed of. bureaucrat of bureaucracy. if you recall under Obama Obama in his.

second term coined something known as. the Asia pivot. right where he pivoted he started. working to Pivot through policy. all of our attention away from. counter-terrorism and into China right. he just called it the Asia pivot we need. to focus strategically on winning hearts. and Minds in Southeast Asia. because China is our next big threat. and we've lost track of that threat as. we've been chasing down terrorism we. used to have close relationships with.

with the Philippines and Malaysia and uh. and Thailand and Cambodia and Vietnam. and we used to be part of asean that. that network of countries well then we. focused on the Middle East China swooped. in and replaced us in their sphere of. influence in Asia so Obama started. trying to move the ship in that. direction but then like we were talking. about earlier we became a very polarized. country so if you wanted to focus on.

China. but you also want it to be elected on a. conservative platform you couldn't agree. with Obama you had to disagree with. Obama because the only way that you were. going to get the conservative vote is if. you took a hard-line stance against. everything that Obama stood for. so then we lost that China thread not. you and I the freaking congressmen and. Senators that were trying to get elected. they dropped the ball on the Strategic. threat in order to gain the short-term. Victory and then every two years or. every every six years they have to go up. for re-election.

and then Trump comes into office and. guess what you can't be a liberal and. support any Trump policy. we just became freaking different like. yeah it's just insane it's insane how. divided we've let ourselves become and. in those cracks in between we're losing. track of the common long-term threats to. the United States because we're too busy. bitching about. green energy and melting polar ice caps. and you know and how and Medicare for. old people we're completely losing the.

fact that China is the biggest threat. that's posed to your and mine children. right my parents on Medicaid and. Medicare they can take care of. themselves but what about someone needs. to protect the Next Generation we lost. we've lost track of that I'm really. worried about the Next Generation. what about the fentanyl stuff I mean. that's that's an another I mean they. just have so many angles it seems I. can't think of anything left. you know I mean they're just hitting us.

from every direction and so with the. fentanyl stuff they're shipping all the. supplies into Mexico to make the. fentanyl to these cartels not only are. they doing that they're sending in. chemists to teach the cartels how to. make the the world's most potent. fentanyl now they're already teaching. these guys what the next drug is so we. went through heroin now we're in. Fentanyl and now they're now they're. teaching the cartels how to make the. next the next most deadliest drug which. is gonna.

which is going to be worse than fentanyl. if you can even believe that yeah right. so this is one of those areas where. where it's important to understand that. that. autocracies autocratic Nations Russia. Iran China. anything's possible based on who you. know. so organized crime organized crime in an. autocracy looks very different than. organized crime in a democracy because. organized crime and democracy has to.

learn to operate. under multiple layers of police. enforcement Municipal Police District. police State Police federal police right. all these different layers they have to. operate under so they have to they. generally can't do big operations and. they generally don't get to move large. amounts of money. because it's very hard. in an autocracy they don't have multiple. layers of police force they basically. have one one main. police chief or one main police.

governing agent who's in charge of. multiple sanctions of multiple precincts. so they just have to have that one. person on the payroll or they just have. to be an old friend from school or they. just have to have you know some way of. basically bypassing that one level of. police enforcement and then once they've. got that they can do pretty much. anything they want they can move large. quantities of goods they can they can. deal with large quantities of money and. they can do it all because it's.

essentially sanctioned by the state. because of the corruption that exists. because of the way that the Communist. party is the on the autocratic party is. organized oligarchs Governors. Commissioners that kind of thing. so. the fact that there is or maybe Chinese. scientists and Chinese individuals. supporting the drug trade in South. America. doesn't necessarily mean that the. Chinese Communist Party the CCP is. enabling that to happen or encouraging.

or directing that that happens as much. as it could just mean that an organized. crime syndicate is able to manage that. level of operation because they don't. have to go through a democracy to get. there do you think it's an organized. crime entity I would imagine that that. is more. it makes I feel like it's higher. probability that that's a that's a. criminal effort than an organized State. effort if it was an organized State. effort I wouldn't see them doing it in. with Chinese people in South America I.

would see a cutout nation in between. right they would have Chinese scientists. working with cambodians or Chinese. scientists working with with uh with. Molly right to pass the knowledge. through a third location so that by the. time they actually get close to the. United States we're not looking at. Chinese scientists we're looking at. scientists of some other nationality. right it's a cut out like a like a shell. to protect uh and give plausible. deniability to the Chinese if it was.

Federal if it was nationally sanctioned. or sanctioned by the government that's. how they would go through hiding their. hand that's what I would do again if I. was if I would if you or I was gonna run. an underground criminal Network we would. put layers in place to protect our. involvement that's just how mature. operations work everything Happening. Here does not sound like a mature. operation it sounds Criminal interesting. I mean I I don't know I don't know what. to believe at this point you know it's. it's everything happens.

it seems like nowadays everything just. happens. right in broad daylight it does nobody's. hiding anything anymore. and it frustrates me because. things have always happened but we used. to be able to count on certain. professions to give us vetted. information journalistic. information was supposed to be one of. those areas that we could rely on. but the journalist the professional. journalistic practice has almost all but.

died right now so the articles that you. and I read on a day-to-day basis they. aren't written by journalists they might. be written by individuals who went to. school for journalism but they're not. being written by individuals who have. had the time to apply journalistic. principles to the story that they're. writing yeah they have to get something. out they have to get it out now they. need people to click on it so that their. editor-in-chief can see that people are. clicking on their story and they can. keep their job. that's what we're looking at now so. these these headlines get spread when.

the content in the article doesn't even. support the headline. these these speculative accusations get. spread and you and I don't know any. better we were we grew up in a house I. remember my dad saying you could trust. the newspaper you can't trust the. newspaper anymore you know what I mean. there I read this awesome article. recently talking about. the difference between print journalism. or print news media and digital news. media meaning print media is all media.

all news media that exists in print it. may also exist digitally but it exists. in print. and the difference between that and news. that exists only in a digital format. and the article was talking about how. journalistic behaviors journalistic. discipline is starting to be applied. more rigorously in digital products only. Vice print products only because if you. make a mistake in a print product you. can't retract it if you do you it makes.

a big public mess because the whole. world knows that the Wall Street Journal. has to retract that article and change. it digital they just update the file. right today it says 41 people dead as. soon as better information comes in they. update it 11 people did you can't do. that with print media so as a result. there's more digital news providers. exclusively digital news providers who. are starting to actually apply proper. journalistic practice because they get. the best of both worlds they get the. story out fast but they can also.

continue to vet the facts and update the. story for two weeks three weeks four. weeks so that what goes on to live in. permanent record is finished. accurate journalistic content okay. what about that what about all the. influence coming into this country all. the Farmland that they're buying all of. the residential that they're buying I. mean. from what I know I mean look at.

California there's a there is a massive. migration. coming out of California into. red States Tennessee being one of them. Texas Florida you're seeing this massive. migration of Californians moving out of. the state now the funny thing is with. the amount of Californians leaving that. state you would think their real estate. prices would plummet but they're not.

because the Chinese in BlackRock are. buying up all of the residential and and. and on top of that they're buying are. they I I don't know this to be fact but. maybe you do do they own more Farmland. in the US than any. than any one. person or business entity I don't know I. don't know the answer to that so what's. my understanding of what's happening.

when it comes to property ownership in. the United States specifically property. rights that are in our country but. belong to foreign Nationals from China. this is a situation where they. understand our legal system better than. we do we built our real estate structure. in the 1950s. on the idea that there was only one. superpower only one country wealthy.

enough to be able to own property in the. United States and that was us. and then as the 1970s came and oil was. discovered in the Middle East and oil. was discovered in Latin America and a. few drug kingpins became you know uber. wealthy. people. other foreign Nationals started. realizing that they could take advantage. of the same U.S tax code to shelter. their money so property has always been. something that the wealthy have been. able to use to tax protect their assets.

but now instead of only Americans being. being able to buy American Property our. law made it so that foreign Nationals. could also buy our property and it makes. sense because for a foreign National to. buy an American Property they bring. there being outside money into the U.S. economy we want that and then the United. States always has the right to basically. uh. take imminent domain or some other you. know policy or government structure to. pull back the property and make it ours. and take ownership away from a foreign.

National. so we've always had that that kind of. clause where we could just take it back. if we wanted to and keep their money we. don't want to do that because then. people are going to stop investing but. as long as people are investing if they. have the money let them bring their. money into our economy that was all well. and good when the United States was the. most significant superpower in the world. well then enter 2000s and now you've got. China and they're growing middle class. their Center of manufacturing they're. not pouring money into the. military-industrial complex to fight the.

global war on terror like we were. instead they can just develop new. technology the birth of Huawei the birth. of cellular technology advancements in. China and uh and you know the the. multitude of of technologies that. they're stealing from Europe and Latin. America and making a fortune off of. right not to mention all their shipping. money and everything else. now you've got all these wealthy Chinese. people they're not going to buy property. in China because they already know they. won't own it the Chinese party will own.

it they could lose it at any time so the. safer option for their investment is to. actually buy property in the United. States where there's some sort of legal. protection of the investment and the. United States is naturally incentivized. not to take that property back from them. because to do that would be to. essentially forfeit all foreign. investors and investing in property. United States we didn't anticipate that. happening and we couldn't change policy. fast enough to stop it from happening. because what was happening from 2000 to. 2020 the biggest economic Boon for the.

United States that we had seen in like. 50 years like it was imp there's the the. kind of the running saying is that it. was impossible not to make money in the. United States between like 2005 and 2019. that so significant was our economic. Boon cycle that you could throw money at. a wall and you would get a return on. invest. so we we just we we got caught we got. caught with our pants down somebody used. our policy against us and now huge.

tracks of farmland and Industrial uh. properties I mean it's not just. industrial properties man there there. are mineral mines on U.S soil. better majority owned and controlled by. Chinese companies. think about it that doesn't surprise me. I mean I read somewhere that. the Chinese own the power plant that. powers the biggest military base in. Texas. through a shell company of a shell.

company of a shell company again we we. taught them. how to do that that's American Business. practice in in the United States you can. open a business and your business is. seen in the eyes of the law as a person. it has rights and protections like a. person. we created that they just take advantage. of it. I mean don't. I also read that one of the only loans. the Chinese can apply for.

is real estate loans. to buy property here in the US so. while you say. it's individuals. China's obviously influencing its. population to invest their money here in. the United States and then we go to. Chinese law which I'm not familiar with. but what I mean if they can just pull a. business like that you know couldn't. they just pull somebody's.

property that was owned in a foreign. country. just like that. um it's it's harder to cross. international lines like that that's. that's true but the other thing is we're. not talking about normal Chinese right. the the normal the average. the average annual income in the United. States is like 45 000 a year the average. annual income inside China is like 21. 000 a year so there are by American. Standards especially. there are just tons of poverty-stricken.

Chinese. so in order to be a Chinese person that. could actually afford to qualify for a. real estate loan by American Standards. in the United States you'd have to be a. very wealthy Chinese person to even be. able to do that so it's not like they're. incentivizing or encouraging their. general population to buy property here. instead it's a wealthy. sub component or a wealthy sub um. uh sub-sector of Chinese business people. and Elites that want to make a wise.

investment of their Capital their excess. Capital so they put it into a U.S. property and they put it into a U.S bank. and they put it into a U.S loan which. generates interest for Americans and. boosts the American economy right we. have to come to terms as a country with. accepting that we are in economy first. capitalist country and that's a good. thing I like that we're a capitalist. country I like that we put money first I. like that we drive economy uh as a core.

value I like that that's what we should. do. but we should also have like a a a. bubble of protection around that where. we can limit it to just American. citizens. we can limit it to just individuals. vetted by certain government departments. as viable candidates to take a loan from. a U.S Bank we don't have to have the. freaking doors wide open to God and. everybody and have you know drug. kingpins and human Smugglers and.

oligarchs from Russia we don't need to. just let everybody buy our property. we can insulate ourselves we just never. took the steps to do it before partly. because we don't we don't grow very fast. we're I mean you you were military I'm. military there's a certain element in. military where we call ourselves too. dumb to quit. I'm sure you've heard that before the. United States is so Punch Drunk on. wealth we're kind of too dumb to quit it. takes a little bit of time a little bit.

of reflection a little bit of work. for us to go back review and change our. policies and oh absolutely we'd have to. Shake Hands Across you know across the. aisles in the senate in the house to be. able to agree to make some changes. China's gambling on the fact that we're. too dumb to ever change our policies. we'll be too busy arguing with each. other over the next president the next. who controls the next house well do you. think they're influencing the division. oh for sure but it's not just them. I mean think about every election in the.

world that we try to influence. every one of those countries is going to. try to influence our election too. what I I never understood why people got. so upset in 2016. when there was evidence of Russian. tampering in the presidential election. what the hell do people think happens in. every election there's tampering in. every single election all we saw in 2016. was that FBI got smart enough to catch. the Russians doing it.

that doesn't mean it didn't happen in. 2012 doesn't mean it didn't happen in. 2020 doesn't mean it's not going to. happen in 2024. it happens every cycle. and it happens every uh every midterm. and it happens at local levels too. the Chinese the Russians the North. Koreans the Iranians they are all very. very heavily invested in shaping. American politics not shaping American. politics for a specific winner.

but shaping American politics so it. Causes Chaos it's a core fundamental. belief it's a concept a core Concept in. covert influence. that influence doesn't always mean that. you're influencing a specific outcome it. just means that you're influencing the. process. causing chaos and division and. infighting is a hundred percent a. planned outcome of covert influence. we're seeing it every day we just don't. call it that we we refuse to accept the.

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propaganda and I think we were. mentioning this earlier it's here. propaganda is kind of an unsophisticated. term. that's used in countries where. information is controlled. so the Russians use propaganda the Nazis. used propaganda the Chinese still have. an office of propaganda propaganda is. essentially when you block true. information and you flood controlled. false information intentionally false. information what's known as dis.

information do you think we do that I. think in our own country to our own. people uh it's different for us. we don't have the ability to make. propaganda. because we can't control the flow of. accurate information. what we do have the ability to do is use. the tenets of covert influence. and misinformation which is errant or. wrong information we do allow those. things to take root. so for example let's just look at the.

Spy balloon that was another thing on. your list. what was it four weeks ago a Chinese spy. balloon was was suspected over Montana. over Mountain stream Air Force Base in. Montana. uh four days later it was shot down in. the Atlantic Ocean. the world went the United States went. crazy right a Chinese balloon. with a satellite hanging from underneath. it. actively spying on us in our own. airspace.

like the American public went nuts. and then the next three things that got. shot down what did they call them uaps. unidentified flying objects UFOs or. unidentified aerial phenomenon right. they did not want to call them balloons. because the government realized that by. calling so much attention to the fact. that this first balloon was a Chinese. balloon and a spy satellite they had. painted themselves into a corner now. they had an international incident they.

had to manage because they gave too much. information to the American public. simply by having the same thing happen. again and it wasn't even the same thing. it wasn't I mean it wasn't a Chinese spy. balloon at all it was a freaking Idaho. University. Research balloon that they shot down. over the Great Lakes right. they they didn't want to run the risk of. calling it a balloon even though it was. reported as a spherical object or. whatever they call it right they they. would prefer to call it a UFO because.

China spy balloon everybody pays. attention UFO shot down nobody really. pays attention so inside the United. States what we end up happening what. ends up happening is is governments. government military uh federal. government you name it Administration. they pick words that are less alarmist. and that's the words that they choose to. use when they brief. the media at the White House hey we. found an unidentified flying object over. Idaho or whatever else it might be right.

somebody writes that story up all the. UFO people in the world get excited. nobody cares anymore from the China spy. balloon stuff yeah right and the US. government probably rightfully so is. assuming that the average American isn't. smart enough to connect the two. spy balloon here UFO there but what if. that UFO is actually a balloon so then. we have two more incidents over the next. week and a half two more balloons shot. down by f-35s and f-16s.

again balloons but they don't call them. balloons they call them UFOs and then. what happens now the U.S now the federal. government has just said that they shot. down three UFOs now all of a sudden this. freaking headline news again and they're. like oh [ __ ] we shouldn't have called. them UFOs or at least we shouldn't have. called all three of them UFOs because. now the whole world thinks that we are. shooting down UFOs we've got to back. this up right so the government does a. very bad job of controlling the. information flow because they know they. can't.

it's difficult for them to do so. but they can control classified. information so they will over classify. you've seen that I'm sure in your days. at CIA and in the seals in the SEAL. Teams we over classify all the time as a. stop Gap to making sure that we don't. accidentally over share. so that's how we handle. misinformation we make the information. unavailable knowing full well that. journalists and bloggers and whoever.

else are going to jump onto the story. without all the facts and make mistakes. if it benefits American Security. National Security they have no problem. with that sometimes they even seed. intentional information just so that. they can send a message like you saw in. the beginning part of Ukraine like you. saw with all the soldier counts in. Ukraine I remember in the first three or. four months the U.S government was. allowing was was confirming reports from. Ukrainian generals about.

fifty thousand dead Russian soldiers. compared to 1500 dead Ukrainian soldiers. remember when they used to do the body. counts that was just them acknowledging. information that they knew was wrong and. letting the newspapers run with it. anyways that's how the federal. government handles misinformation to the. American public. if it benefits National Security. let them eat cake. what do you think that spiral one was. what do I think it was yeah so my my.

suspicion is that the whole spy balloon. concept is decades old everybody uses. them because it makes sense a satellite. when you try to spy from a satellite you. have a very narrow window of time when. the satellite Is On Target right because. the satellite's going around the Earth. and the Earth is here so when the. satellite is over where you need it to. be that's your only window to capture. and then you don't get another capture. window until they come back around again. so if there's cloud cover if it's night. time if there's anything wrong they.

don't get the image right so you're. blind for most of the cycles of that. satellite a balloon has a long loiter. time. and it moves with predominant winds so. you can basically predict when a balloon. is going to be in a certain part of the. planet based on predominant wind. patterns altitude Etc and it will loiter. there moving that's what 70 knots like. that's slow so It'll just stay there. forever taking pictures and sending. information. I we for sure we use balloons I've never.

seen one I've never heard of one it just. makes technical sense high probability. low confidence right we would use. balloons all over the world because you. can fly them at 70 000 feet nobody. really cares that they're there they. don't know if it's a spy balloon or a. research balloon or a weather balloon. they don't have a big radar cross. section. so it makes perfect sense to me that. Russia's got balloons out there Iran's. got balloons out there China's got. balloons out there. Germany France the UK Italy they all.

have balloons out there and there's. there would be poor or little to no. National or International tracking of. these balloons. so they're out there we've always known. that they're out there but we never. really saw it as an issue until for. whatever reason that first Chinese spy. balloon broke into American airspace and. kind of woke up the administration to. say hey maybe we should think about this. maybe we should do something about this. and if you recall it was like five or. seven days before they decided to shoot. it down and then for the next three.

they shot it down the next day yeah. I mean I'm sure we hit it hopefully with. some type of a. energy weapon the ew wave or whatever. before it came into. it came into our borders but you know as. far as the. the capabilities of what was on there I. mean do you think that it was only just. imagery oh no no way because I did a. little segment on this.

um a while back and and. what I realized was. these people have no idea what kind of. capabilities are out there right and. they think this thing is. they think this thing isn't collecting. anything that Google Earth hasn't. collected yet and when I when I saw that. in the comments I was like. oh man yeah yeah yeah it's like you know. think of what are they gonna get that uh. that they can't get off Google Earth and.

it's like I I just don't that's exactly. what they want you to think yeah I don't. know how. I mean. let's go let's go over some of the. capabilities that could have been on. there for sure okay so so if you think. of just the first just the first balloon. if you look at pictures of the first. balloon which is a great place to start. just if you Google you know pictures of. this Chinese spy balloon and you'll. you'll see pictures of it it was a a box. um some say it was the size of a bus. some say it was the size of you know a. suitcase the Box itself was most likely.

the size of a suitcase maybe two. suitcases right the size of a satellite. essentially and then it had these two. large solar arrays off to the side. collecting energy from the Sun to power. all the functions on the box and then it. had at least two possibly four dishes. that were directional dishes that were. mounted to the main box. just by looking at that there's a couple. things that you you know for a fact. right first you know that it had to be. powered externally so it wasn't a.

battery that it was carrying if it was a. battery it would be designed to run. until the battery died it needed solar. power for continuous operations so that. takes money that takes engineering that. takes time that takes effort that's not. a weather balloon University of Michigan. is now putting up a weather balloon it. looks like that do you know what I mean. second it had those directional dishes. directional dishes are designed to pick. up. localized transmissions and transmit. focused Transmissions that's what the. shape of the of the dish is for right so.

if you have Dish TV it's there so that. you can send and receive a very narrow. band message. so. four dishes gives it the opportunity to. collect four different targets at one. time or potentially collect three. different targets at one time and. transmit on a fourth but there's a. two-way transmission and reception mode. there. so and this is just what we see on the. outside. if there were and they were very likely.

to be signals intelligence collection. applications inside right small antenna. round bulbous antenna on the underside. or on the back side of the satellite. dish or on the back side of the of the. Spy balloon those would be used for wide. spectrum siggins collections signals. collection so they could be collecting. uh signals that were being encrypted and. transmitted from one military base to. another from one CIA base to another. they could be signals connected there. really pretty much anything you mean. like they could they could be signals. collecting on a certain frequency in the.

Wi-Fi network that they know is being. used by the president or that they know. it was being used by senators or. business people or who knows what so. essentially that satellite that balloon. was a giant sponge collecting signals. radio waves cellular waves imagery. thermal imagery infrared imagery day and. night time right and then also having. the real-time ability to transmit that. information. back to another location potentially. even to another balloon.

also. the balloons could have been. transmitting signals to each other. acting as a series of relays back to a. main home base so a balloon over the. United States a balloon over Canada a. balloon over Mexico all carrying and. transmitting signals between each other. hopscotching back to Mainland China. That's How satellites work that's how. any anybody with the walkie-talkie can. do the same thing right when you look at. that balloon all of those capabilities. were very likely and housed encased in.

that one spy balloon. have you heard about uh do you know. anything about quantum entanglement by. chance I know a little bit I don't know. it on a scientific level but I know the. concept do you know that the Chinese are. claiming to be able to communicate with. their satellites by using quantum. entanglement. you don't believe it it's I don't I have. yet to know I I have yet to hear about. anybody being able to actually. replicate or or measure the.

effectiveness of their own quantum. entanglement I think that they've proven. that quantum entanglement can happen. I don't know that anyone's been able to. measure or control it good. for the audience I'll run through it and. I'm not a physicist but I'm not either. man so we're speaking the same way so. I'll I'll break it down best I can so. quantum entanglement is basically. saying that all particles atoms are.

connected one way or another through. through a field of energy right and if. you split an atom. and you manipulate one half of the atom. no matter where in Space the other half. of the atom is it will replicate the. um what you're doing to this part of the. atom so if you were to put and that and. and. from what I've read and there's some. great articles on space.com that I've.

read there's a lot of different articles. uh talking about this but. but there's no there is no distance. that. it doesn't matter the distance you can. manipulate this this half of the. particle and this half of the particle. is going to replicate exactly what that. one does uh through all of the. connectedness of these of of of. particles. and so if you put something say.

like Morse code on this atom. on this half then this half is gonna. it's gonna replicate that and there's. nothing that could. intercept these communications and so. that's another thing I heard is oh I'm. sure we were jamming I'm sure we were. jamming the Transmissions yeah I know we. jammed things and and I mean we both. spent a lot of time overseas I'm sure. you've seen a lot of it too Jammers. don't even work all the time you know.

and so if if they have the capability of. quantum entanglement Communications. we have no idea what they collected and. what and what got transmitted back to. back to China right I mean you're even. without quantum entanglement. depending on the frequency the. encryption techniques how we classify. the balloon we we may still have no idea. what they were transmitting they may. have been transmitting in in the open.

and if we weren't intentionally trying. to intercept that balloon's transmission. they could have sent an open signal like. a ham radio signal for crying out loud. yeah and we wouldn't have been able to. collect it right because if it's not. something we're listening to or looking. for we're not going to get it yeah. so you bring up a really good point I. can't I don't know enough about quantum. entanglement and Chinese capabilities to. speak to that but we did just yesterday. the U.S state Department released a. report.

confirming that of the 41 Technologies. that uh that have been deemed as. critical Next Generation Technologies I. think that's what it was 41 Technologies. China is ahead of the United States in. 33 of the 41 Technologies. and on that list was advanced. communication artificial intelligence. Hypersonic missiles Next Generation. drones like a huge list where we're. being trounced by Chinese investment and.

Chinese discoveries in these Advanced. Tech. so I think that that just further. corroborates what you were just talking. about with the potentiality of Chinese. using quantum entanglement as some sort. of communication tool you know and. moving into Tech I mean. so what they're doing with these tech. companies I interviewed this guy Peter. Schweitzer we're just talking about him. at lunch he wrote that book red-handed. so what China is doing with these tech. companies and you maybe you know more.

about this than me because I just read a. book but um but um. they're basically. bringing in all Big Tuck into China. because with. in big Tech is they like it because they. don't have to all the red tape to to. deal with like they do here in the U.S. so they build them a big chip factory. they build them I don't know whatever. iPhone Factory doesn't matter whatever. it is and so all these big tech. companies Google.

Tesla. apple apple all of them are going over. there well under Chinese law. if they develop any new tech that China. thinks might benefit their military. artificial intelligence I don't know. quantum entanglement that has to be. shared with the Chinese government so. all of our tech companies. are over there developing new tech and. China gets. it's.

a piece they get the information first. and so of course we're behind because. we've allowed. all of that to happen right that's the. downside of globalization right if. you're if you're going to take the. economic Advantage if you're going to. take the economic incentive. of manufacturing in a cheap country. then you're forfeiting your rights to. the overarching land law of the land in. that foreign country. we weren't thinking about that right we.

we weren't thinking about that or again. going back to 2010 to 2018 think about. the tech boom in that period of time. like there was so much money so much. Venture Capital money going into new. crazy Tech innovations that half of them. didn't even make sense right but there. was such an abundance of money people. just wanted to be able to act quickly. and act at scale you can't do either of. those things in the United States you. have to go to a third country to do that.

it's too expensive there's too much red. tape. there's too many legal barriers when you. try to move fast and scale inside the. United States. let's move back to the division and how. China is influencing our division do you. think they're behind some of this world. culture stuff. it's a good question like. because that's a very divisive time it. really is it's.

woke America is. it's it's. I mean frankly it feels like a waste of. resources. it all started with ESG. when ESG first happened I loved ESG I. still love ESG ESG is exactly the kind. of. the kind of discovery that makes America. great. we found a way to create something that.

requires no resources but increases the. value. so that it increases the economic. displacement right it costs more money. because it brings more value that's what. ESG was what ESG is it's what I love. about ESG we're going to reduce our. carbon footprint we're going to plant. more trees we're going to bring more. women into executive positions we're. going to you know appreciate diversity. and culture and race. that's awesome. there are people who are getting paid.

more money there is more economic. stimulus there is uh there are companies. whose stock prices increasing only. because they're practicing ESG that's. excellent that brings more economic. power to the United States. well then that kind of some bastardized. niche of that. turn into the side turns into this idea. of of woke culture that somehow uh I. mean everything from the fact that white. people are so racist they don't even.

know they're racist. to this idea that we have to respect the. gender identity of the individual and. their pronouns and all this other stuff. like that's the opposite of ESG that's a. bunch of work that doesn't add value to. anything when something is a lot of work. and it doesn't add value it's a drain on. resources so here ESG is this boost. economically and and then in comes woke. culture which is this drag economically.

do I think that the Chinese are behind. it I don't think that some freaking. Chinese covert influence expert invented. the idea of woke instead. again following the laws of covert. influence you just find a divisive topic. and then you pour fuel onto that. divisive topic so I I do think that it's. very likely once woke culture was born. then the Chinese started creating their. own. pots of money to fuel the fight so how.

how exactly do you think they're doing. that I mean I know we we know about the. Bots we know that there are what do they. call them bot Farms or something where. there's just thousands and thousands of. people social media social media so. social media ads is an easy way to to. fervent more of that culture uh Tick. Tock as popular as Tick Tock is who. controls tick tock's algorithm China who. controls tick tock's algorithm in the. United States China they can actually. create different algorithms for.

different geographical regions right so. now if you know that will culture is. active among a certain demographic and. you know that Tick Tock is the most. popular tool in that demographic you can. just shape that Tick Tock you can even. create. algorithms that Target specific age. groups inside of the algorithm so Mom. and Dad don't even see that they're 18. and 19 and 17 year old child is getting. this kind of content delivered to them. right so there's lots of ways that a.

sophisticated technological country can. concede and cultivate. uh. conflicts like disagreements over. culture or woke culture or any other. topic that you can imagine whether it's. whether president uh Biden is. pro-chinese or whether his son's laptop. was this or whether Trump was you know. put in power by the Russians you can. basically control any information you. want to if you control the algorithm.

that sits on the platform what are some. other ways they could do it other than. social media so there's there's. mainstream media. um most of what we find on Google search. most of what you find even in like a a. newspaper or a magazine is is content. that is sponsored in some way right. somebody wants an article written. somebody lobbies to have an article. written whatever it might be and and. um that may not be true for your. mainstream media like your Washington.

Post and your Economist and your CNN. they just want clicks they'll create. their own garbage they just want clicks. right but when you're talking about. magazines that you find on bookshelves. magazines that you find in airplanes. magazines that you find you know on. coffee tables at wherever around the. world a lot of that content is sponsored. somebody wants you to write about. something so they pay the magazine to. write about something and through a cut. out of a cut out I mean the Chinese can. can just funnel money into certain.

content that they want to have created. not just the Chinese the Russians can do. it the Iranians can do it the North. Koreans can do it the Colombians can do. it if they choose right we do it just as. well right we can direct and drive. content Creation in all sorts of medians. all across the world. when you talk about things like YouTube. when you talk about things like. Instagram when you talk about you know. any popular tool out there is a. potential Avenue for a paid sponsor or. paid ad or content that is intentionally.

created and then optimized to reach a. certain audience. it's a difficult challenging world that. we live in because content can be. crafted and tailored and targeted so. well. it's also an area where we tap into some. of the best freedom and the best. information that we can get because. conversations like this are very real. the only reason this real conversation. can happen is because of the same tools. that other people use to pervert true. information.

out of all the stuff that we've talked. about so far I mean. what do you what do you think is the. most concerning. or do you have anything to add do you. have any other the most concerning thing. to me is definitely the fact that that. China has gotten to a place specifically. with China the most significant thing. about China is that it's gotten to a. place where it has the potential to. direct next steps in Europe.

Hypersonic missiles Huawei. Rare Earth minerals. Belt Road initiative they're involved in. all sorts of stuff that one thing to me. is the most imminent pressing concern. because if they figure out how to do. that. there's no way we're touching Taiwan or. keeping Taiwan safe if they figure out. how to negotiate peace between Ukraine. and Russia. for sure they're going to win Taiwan.

and when we're all going to be sitting. around wondering how it happened. am I missing anything are there are. there any are there any angles out of. the I don't know 10 topics that we've. brought up I mean there's let's just. like you said I mean China in and of. itself is this massive conversation. so I mean what we've covered today is. the highlights the the most critical. pieces that people need to be paying. attention to. and frankly what you brought up about.

China I mean there's just only a small. population paying attention to this. stuff I know most people are letting. themselves get distracted by what. their co-workers were talking about by. what's playing on Prime Time television. by what's uh what the mainstream media. is telling them they're not paying. attention to this yet. and they should be yeah but they won't. be but I'm glad the people listening to. you are. yeah well it's uh I mean this stuff.

this stuff scares the [ __ ] out of me. um all of it especially especially the. the supply chain with the green energy. that if we're headed down that road. and and we're going to call this. it's just it's anything but energy. Independence. I mean not not to mention all the. spyware they're going to put in all this. stuff so we don't have a great track. record.

of energy Independence remember when we. got all upset about OPEC in the 80s. and yet here we are still dealing with. Saudi Arabia and UAE and Oman and. Bahrain to get all of our oil yeah we. just we don't. do you feel like we're taking any. measures to counter any of this stuff. because I don't our border isn't locked. down what's fentanyl is just coming in. you know I. I don't see a whole everything I buy.

still says made in China on it you know. so I mean unfortunately I try to I try. to wise up to it but I mean you can't. you can't everything is made there I. bought my daughter I bought my daughter. a little stuffed puppy the other day I I. tried so hard to get a made in America. puppy I mean. I mean just to give you a little extra. backstory right my gift to my wife and I. for our anniversary this year which will. be 13 years in.

uh uh a month and five days right or two. months and five days. or my gift to us is going to be a poodle. puppy we're going to get our first. family dog I already know I wanted to be. a poodle I have all my my vision for. what this poodle is going to be so I. bought my daughter a stuffed poodle. puppy so that she could. practice taking care of a dog right and. I I went out of my way to find a puppy. that was made in the United States and I. found one it said designed in Georgia.

and I forget the name of the city in. Georgia but I've driven through there. right outside of Atlanta and I was like. hell yes it's a nice high quality. stuffed poodle puppy it's exactly what I. want I order it I buy it it comes in I. pull it out I look at the tag proudly. design of the United States. flip the tag over made in China. everybody's doing it even even I don't. do much merch but even in the merch. world you know you buy you support.

somebody and and I don't blame them you. know what I mean I mean you can't blame. them there's there's only so many. options and unfortunately 99 out of 100. are made in China and if you want. something made in the here here in the. US be prepared to pay double maybe. triple right yeah but you know now the. big thing is. printed in the USA made it made in China. you know printed in the USA but. there are policies in place I I have to. give credit where credit is due right.

Donald Trump put in motion a policy that. was very anti-china right he put in a. program that was called something like. the whatever the kid the countering. Chinese influence. something right it was a very uh a very. controversial program because. the Liberal Liberal voters and liberal. media saw it as being racist right. targeting Chinese people ah you can't.

say that it's a very racist and uh and. anti-chinese program. so when Trump left office one of the. first things that Biden did was cancel. that program. and the news media talked about him. canceling that program what nobody. talked about was that he took the same. concepts of that program and moved it. into a newly named program called. something like the American independence. for me East Asia act or something like. that right. same Pro same program same same. everything moved into a different name.

so at the White House at the. administrative level they understand. that the fight against China is very. real. that is during Obama um during Biden's. most recent state of the union he talked. about a number of initiatives to bring. more domestic manufacturing of high-tech. of high-tech uh. projects medical devices weapons. development electric vehicles bringing. it back to the United States.

the problem is they have to spend a year. drafting it spend a year voting it in. and then they can't actually start to. apply it until three to five years out. yeah so he announced it in 2023 during a. State of the Union Address to take. effect in 2027-2028. well it would have been nice if they. would have just I don't know taken the. agenda and ran with it right and. deconstruct the entire thing just to try. to construct it again and right and. and the bigger question becomes if we.

know that those policies are taking. place in four years what are we going to. do right now right I mean you and I are. very tactical what are we going to do. now I appreciate the strategy but what. are we gonna do right now you can't do. anything because you're going to offend. somebody that's that's the concern right. that's the thing that that's the game. that's being played at a geopolitical. level right what are we going to do. in Ukraine to counter Russia what are we. going to do in Europe to counter Chinese.

influence and Chinese involvement. supporting Russia and Ukraine what are. we going to do to to woo India back to. our side of the fence so they stop. supporting and partnering with China and. Russia right what are we going to do and. how are we going to do it. and as long as we have political. infighting about woke culture we're just. distracting ourselves from the larger. question the the threat that looms over. the heads of our children and our. children's children. foreign.

I think you're going to have a lot of. knowledge on this because of your Air. Force time in the in the in the nuclear. program is an EMP threat. what's the probability of that happening. so emps are emps are rough right but I. don't know if it's common knowledge it. might be. um I I can't say that I really know what. what people do and do do and don't know.

about emps they don't know much. if they think that the Chinese spy. balloon was just doing Google Earth's. job then uh you know. we really got to break it down here so. so an EMP. is it can be the end goal of an. explosive device right you can create an. EMP. you can't create it like in a movie. where it's like a little electrical. battery that just sends out a pulse it. has to be something of a larger a most.

explosive character trait emps are also. the natural byproduct in a nuclear. detonation. most people when they think of a nuclear. bomb they think of a nuclear bomb that. comes and is delivered by a rocket hits. the Earth and then explodes creates a. mushroom cloud and a fireball right what. they don't realize is that a nuclear. warhead can be detonated at any altitude. it can be detonated one foot off the.

ground a thousand feet off the ground. 10 miles off the ground it could be. detonated any altitude and that the. first wave of energy that comes off of a. nuclear explosion is an electromagnetic. pulse. so when we studied nuclear weapons in. the Air Force when we went to war. College about how to apply and deploy. them in combat the first way that we. would use a nuclear weapon is as an EMP. so you would send it you'd launch it. the whole world would see it coming.

right but then you would actually. detonate at altitude and you would. detonate at altitude so that it would. send a very large widespread conical EMP. that would short the fuses and. communication devices of everything. within its reach right so two miles off. the ground you might be able to. neutralize 15 square miles of of land. mass right four miles off the ground you. could neutralize. 50 miles of land mass so are these. accurate numbers they're rough rough.

numbers there's an exponential benefit. to how far you can neutralize based on. the altitude above ground right what's. the what's the widest area that a. EMP a capability that you know of um. how much how much land mass are we. talking it would all depend on the yield. of the Warhead. so I don't remember I don't remember how. big our largest Warheads are that number. might be classified still for all I know. but if you were to detonate a a large. Warhead at a high altitude you would.

have a huge EMP. you also have to keep in mind that the. intensity of the EMP is also related. correlated to how far the devices are. from the explosion so something with. shielding might survive the EMP. something with no shielding might not. survive an EMP blast that's done in the. atmosphere you know what I mean so so. that's what we have to think about when. you talk about emps the the main thing. we have to consider is that there has to. be some kind of blast to neutralize.

everything unless you're talking about a. focused energy weapon which could also. do the same thing short. um short something out right and we. would absolutely expect in a large-scale. conflict. the modern day conflict you would expect. to see cyber warfare to help Jam signals. followed by some kind of EMP blast to to. destroy the software and to destroy the. hardware that would carry the software. assuming they could ever fix the Cyber. the Cyber attack and then you'd.

basically have neutralized command. Communications and relay capabilities. and then you would move in with your. attacking Force I mean it's all energy. all directed energy. no vehicles no no no anything not needed. yeah a vehicle could potentially deliver. a weapon so this is another thing to. keep in mind too. um it would take it could you could use. a low yield nuclear weapon no mushroom. cloud no way to even identify that it. was a nuclear weapon you could.

potentially drive it. in a truck and no kidding just like pop. it up from the back bed of the truck it. goes up 500 feet you know half a mile. explodes neutralizes the entire area I. guess what I meant is if we got hit with. an EMP there would be no vehicles oh no. electric no Communications no radio no. no nothing not if it's modern you're. exactly right because an EMP would short. the circuitry. so anything that's got a smart chip.

modern day cars cell phones all that. stuff would be neutralized your old. school Chevelle should still be good to. go but your Tesla would not go anywhere. be a brick right. yeah if we were to be hit by an EMP. that's essentially how it would work and. the the again the more likely way that. we would see anything like this happen. is we would first see a Cyber attack. that would neutralize our ability to. identify the incoming weapon that would. discharge the EMP. so we would see some kind of Mass Attack.

that distracts us and blinds us to the. incoming attack that launches the MP and. destroys everything do you think that. this is a. realistic scenario. not for us not for the United States why. so because for someone to first of all. the United States is so large it would. be very difficult to successfully. coordinate an attack against the United. States that does both of those things. right and we've got lots of shielding on.

our most sensitive equipment so if. someone were to try I mean think of the. Cities you'd have to cover at one time. Miami New York Chicago. Los Angeles. San Francisco Houston Dallas uh. Nashville like you'd have to cover tons. of cities with a coordinated Cyber. attack and coordinated emps to. neutralize the United States. in the hopes that the shielding that's. on military bases would be penetrated by.

the EMP it's really unlikely right. because if you made one mistake. we'd have command and control. centralized and we'd be able to respond. with the forces that we have through. since through backup lines your. telephone lines wouldn't go down. right because they're not reliant on on. conducting chips they're reliant on. fiber optic cables and and sometimes. just old school ethernet cables right. like there'd be a lot of infrastructure. still in place in the United States. but that's exactly the kind of attack. that I would expect to see in an assault.

on Taiwan that's exactly the kind of. attack that I would expect to see the. next time Russia tries to take one of. their uh former satellite States I mean. maybe it wouldn't affect the military. bases but it definitely would affect the. civilian population sure and. with no electricity there's no food. there's no water there's no. heat right there's no cooling you know. and and so.

I think that alone I mean what what are. they it's it's estimated what three you. have three days. if something like that were to happen. before. before everything comes unglued and it. becomes every man for himself so really. they wouldn't have to they wouldn't have. to take the military out because. the civilian population would just. basically eat itself alive. there's the The X Factor that we're not. considering is what happens when there's.

an attack. Ukraine is a fantastic real world. example of this right now. president zielinski's approval rating on. February 21st 2022. was 30 percent. 30 percent. president zielinski's approval rating on. February 22nd 2023 was 90 percent. now why am I saying that did the guy. suddenly become an amazing president in. one year he's the same guy right that 90.

approval rating came from a mix of. gung-ho hyper nationalistic ukrainians. who are still in the country because. remember they've had tens of millions of. refugees leave the country. plus only a fraction of those gung-ho. people can even get to a computer to. take a survey. so it's a small sample size of a limited. population that all answer 90 to 90. approval rating right but the the thing. that that demonstrates is that when.

there's a common aggressor. Everything Changes. all you and I are sitting here talking. about the the potential negative impact. of woke culture as soon as somebody. pulls a gun. on any of us on you me or some person. who self-identifies as they or them. we've got a common enemy all of a sudden. we don't care about their pronouns we. care about the enemy so if somebody were. to attack the United States we wouldn't. eat ourselves from within we'd sit there.

we'd probably lock arms. pick up weapons and fight the enemy. that's what we did after 9 11. I know. you remember what 911 was like I. definitely remember that I that was a. different time it was a different time. near as divided as we are today we. weren't but some of the some of the most. contentious uh activity we saw was. coming from the bore the the gore and. Bush elections just prior to that yeah. I don't know I want to believe you I.

really do I just I just don't see. I don't see. Americans locking arms I just don't see. it today we need a common enemy what. scares me to be very honest with you. what scares me is the fact that. the administration also knows we need a. common enemy yeah. so I don't I don't feel like part of it. like any.

I don't feel like the Trump. Administration did it I don't feel like. the Biden Minister I don't think Unity. is on anybody's agenda you know and and. while I do agree that we we need a. common entity to unite I mean. the the actions of of. both of both Administrations. are are. in my opinion extremely divisive I agree. but what we're seeing what I'm seeing at.

least is. that the Biden Administration has wised. up to the fact that Russia is not our. common enemy they've been preaching that. for a year right stand with Ukraine. Russia's the aggressor Putin's illegal. War Putin's illegal Invasion Putin this. Putin that Putin's dying of cancer. Putin's gonna be just you know pulled. off pulled out of power by the oligarchs. within like how many times have they. been wrong trying to tell us what's. going to happen to Putin I think they're. waking up to the fact that Putin is not. the common enemy America is looking for.

some of us have even like gone as far as. to say maybe we're doing the wrong thing. by supporting Ukraine right even I have. said that it's not a good idea to. provoke Russia because what we're doing. now is playing into Russia's hands like. when this whole thing started it was. about countering Nazism in Ukraine there. was no Putin didn't have a toe to stand. on when that was his claim now he has a. very just claim saying that Ukraine is a.

proxy war of the West trying to. eradicate Russia he actually has an. argument now we gave him that argument. but my point is that the administration. is realizing that the common enemy may. actually be China. so now as we turn our attention towards. this conflict with China. and talking about chip Wars and talking. about lethal Aid to Russia and talking. about China bypassing uh International. laws and and whatever else now all of a. sudden like both both sides of the aisle.

can get behind supporting Ukraine. because it's an economic benefit both. sides of the aisle can get behind. putting our Targets on China because we. all see them as a true Challenge and a. true threat to our long-term role as a. superpower I mean. in theory I mean can they actually do. that though when what two years ago. anything bad you said about China you. were painted a racist. well we'll have to figure that out. nobody's saying that now. it's interesting it's funny right I mean.

we're having a whole conversation about. China right now and we're not worried. about anybody calling us racist yeah. well I gave up on that stuff a long time. ago I don't know I uh yeah I just. it you get canceled for anything. nowadays so it's it's we'll see what. happens we'll see what the uh with the. with the woke internet has to think. about our conversation I don't think. we're going to be painted it's racist. but but two years ago we would have been. yep you know maybe a year ago we would. have been yep and so it's it's.

I mean they're going to have to. re-indoctorate. half of the population into thinking. that that's not racist again or uh half. the population won't be smart enough to. to keep up with it anyways they'll be. too busy scrolling through Tick Tock or. giving up their time some other way very. true. is there anything else you want to cover. with China. no man I think we've I think especially. for what could be a first conversation. to bring people up to date where we are.

today with China I think we totally. nailed it. who knows what it'll look like six. months from now but right now we've got. a very accurate idea of China's role and. China's implication as it stands today. perfect let's take a break when we come. back we'll. we'll lightly cover some UFO UAP and uh. energy stuff sounds perfect man all. right. I want to give a big thank you out right. now to all the vigilance Elite patrons.

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teachers are introducing our kids to. sexual Concepts and sexualization and. playing that role is an intermediary as. opposed to parents. having raised my boys in what amounts to. be a homophobic suburb I ask that you. really think of the students before you. start pulling books off the bookshelves. do you think all the. left is into these woke agendas or do. you think it's a small portion of the. lesson I think it's uh there's.

definitely an extreme element of it the. book actually I started a couple years. before I decided to run for this end the. book was based on this idea that the. country was headed in the wrong. direction. [Music]. how are we going to restore faith in the. public school system what you're. describing has so many bad consequences. of it because you know you are still. paying for the schools because the. school is paid for by taxes so the. people that are doing that. are essentially able to afford to do it.

[Music]. all right Andy we're back from the break. the final break. we're going to cover the weaponization. of space or weaponizing space and UFO. UAP maybe some free energy stuff yeah. what do you want to kick it off with. dude weaponizing space is a super.

interesting topic let's go there yeah so. so the couple things so just recently. Russia announced that it's going to pull. out a star treaty right what is the star. treaty the start treaty was a treaty. that was put in place in during the. Obama years to basically limit and. downsize the total number of nuclear. weapons that existed between the United. States and the Russian arsenals. so a downsizing and modernization and. safety like protocols right for for our. two different nuclear weapon arsenals.

I mean it was set to expire in 2025 most. people thought it was going to renew but. now Putin just announced he's not going. to renew it right that came on the heels. of Biden showing up in Kiev on. President's Day which in and of itself. is kind of ridiculous I don't know why. the U.S president would spend American. Presidents Day. in Kiev it just it doesn't it doesn't. honor our history of presidents well. some people claim he's not all there.

so but either way so it's a counter that. kind of snub in the face of Russia Putin. announced he's going to pull out of the. star treaty no nuclear weapons there is. a treaty in place the non-nuke the. non-weaponization of space is a treaty. that's existed since the 70s nuclear. weapons actually work the way they work. specifically because they're supposed to. fit within the guidelines of a treaty so. the treaty basically says you cannot put. a weapon into orbit around Earth.

nuclear weapons follow that rule because. they actually launch in a elliptical. pattern to re-engage or re-enter Earth's. atmosphere so they leave from one part. of Earth and they enter another part of. Earth they do not make a full rotation. around the earth so they do not make an. orbit. with the idea of weaponizing space. it becomes scary because now there are. so many more people involved that were. never part of that treaty uh China's.

putting things in space they were never. part of the original treaty. we've got commercial entities putting. putting things in space right you've got. uh freaking Elon Musk is launching. Tesla's into orbit so there's all this. stuff now going into space that was. never part of the original treaty not to. weaponize space and all you would. basically have to do is essentially put. something into space that's carrying a. laser carrying a even a dumb bomb a dumb. explosive right all you need is gravity. you can just drop something out of a out.

of a vehicle in space and as long as it. can withstand re-entry into the. atmosphere essentially you have a. space-based weapons platform so it's it. is scary to think about the future. modern day weapons smart weapons energy. directed weapons or directed energy. weapons laser weapons being based in. orbit around the Earth. how many countries do you know of that. are putting weapons into space I don't. know of anyone currently putting weapons.

into space but the countries that we. know have the infrastructure to put. satellites and to put large Vehicles. into space I mean that's got to be. pushing up towards 25 or 30 countries uh. I mean just some of the ones that jump. to mind that I'm not comfortable with. putting. items into space Pakistan can launch. into space India can launch into space. um. uh turkey can launch into space.

Iran Iran can probably launch into space. I mean if they if they can't do it. themselves they'd be able to get the the. know-how from the Russians or the. Chinese to be able to do it right North. Korea might be able to launch in a space. they have missile platforms that carry. nuclear weapons so the there's a lot of. very intense Applied Mathematics that. goes into getting something into orbit. and making it stay there. but I mean these are all countries that. that have a grudge with someone else. that they might consider putting a.

weapon into space at least the United. States and and somehow and like Russia. for example like we have this. contentious relationship remember in. World War II we were allies and then. there was the Cold War and then coming. out of the Cold War and in the early 90s. in like in the early 90s we kind of. became friendly again and then that has. slowly kind of dissolved into what it is. now. obviously exacerbated significantly in. the last year but there's a there's a. weird relationship where both of us are.

really fairly responsible nuclear. partners. at least until until we see otherwise. what do you think about all this UAP UFO. stuff it's it's it's. being brought up more and more and more. and there's all these conspiracies. around it. everything from well the. if you heard about the false flag Alien.

Invasion no you haven't no I haven't. heard about this yet well. some people think that the the. that the globalization is going to occur. after a false flag Alien Invasion and. that's why all these UAP and UFOs are. are coming up in the media because. they're gonna they're gonna falsify. something that's gonna create enough. fear to where we all. all listen to the One World Government a.

false flag Alien Invasion meaning. meaning some basically some deep Shadow. government is making us think those UFOs. yes yes that's convoluted yeah but. why do you think this is all of a sudden. just hit in the mainstream. so more and more and more yeah yeah so. that I think is an excellent question. UFOs have been something people have. been interested in a long time right as. long as we can remember seeing things in.

the sky that we can't immediately. identify. that was the birth of the UFO. UFOs and aliens I think if you if you. take a look closely they're two. different things. UFOs are just what's in the sky. aliens are life outside of our planet. it's a nuanced difference but it's still. a difference the reason people are. obsessed with UFOs is because people. don't like cognitively human beings. don't like an open loop in their in.

their reasoning process. you you don't like it I don't like it. it's the reason that television series. always end on a cliffhanger it's the. reason that books end on Cliffhangers. it's the reason that you read emails. from email marketers and they always. tell you what they're going to tell you. on the next email right the human the. human brain doesn't like an open loop we. like a closed loop we like we like. closure. so when there's an open loop we get. fixated on it so the idea of this.

mystery of what's in the sky we get. naturally fixated on what could that be. whether we want to or not we start. theorizing could it be this could it be. that could it be this we're trying to. close the loop cognitively that's what. drives us compulsively with UFOs what. drives us compulsively with aliens is. actually a question of how human beings. uh how we relate to mortality. you're gonna die someday I'm gonna die.

someday. right now in our 40s it's more it's more. real to us than it was in our 20s when. we probably both thought we were. impervious. but imagine how we're going to feel when. we're 60. imagine how we're going to. feel when we're 80 right the closer you. get to death the more intense your. questions start to become about is there. life after death is there more after. death am I really just a pile of a. functioning like biological system and.

then I'm gonna die my system is going to. stop working and I'm just going to be. dust is that really all there is to it. or is there more. and that question of is there more is. what really drives our fixation with. alien life because what if there is life. outside of Earth what if when we die our. Spirits go somewhere outside of Earth. what if there's some technology out. there that these Advanced creatures may. have. that could help me prolong my life right. what if there's something some great.

mystery that I haven't discovered in my. 65 years of existence because I'm bored. with everything of life and now the only. thing that's that's new and unknown to. me is this idea of alien life. so the question of aliens is really. intricately connected with our with the. human existence with our mortality right. so you can see that you can separate. these two things one is a question of. mortality one is an open loop of the. mysteries of what's going on in the sky. now the reason that these two things. have always been around but they've. become so intensely mainstream is.

because of the UAP report that the. government released. what is it two years ago now 2021. possibly 2022. the federal government finally released. that they had been collecting. information about UFOs and uaps since. the 1950s. once we heard. that the federal government the CIA the. DIA NSA had been collectively collecting. running intelligence operations against. Russia for crying out loud to try to.

collect information about UFOs and uaps. now all of a sudden what that did is it. lended government credibility to these. two open Loops that we've been suffering. from for so long. which now made it so that maybe in. secret you thought they were aliens but. you never talked about it with your. friends or maybe in secret you thought. they were UFOs but you never mentioned. it to your wife now all of a sudden the. government's talking about it so now. everybody can talk about it which opens. up the conversation to everybody who has. an opinion right and there is real.

evidence out there that speaks to. unidentified aerial phenomenon and that. speaks to things in the sky that nobody. can describe and then you've got the. footage from the 2007 uh the Nimitz and. the f-18s that were tracking multiple. aerial vehicles that they couldn't. describe they couldn't Define. like there's all there's a lot of moving. Parts here that have now made it so that. these two natural questions that all.

human beings have. now become so mainstream we can talk and. speculate all we want openly now without. having to worry about anybody calling us. crazy. do you have any theories on what these. are. so I do actually I uh so I was I was. mentioning to you I actually just. finished shooting on a new television. show and I can't speak about many. details but but the show was for a. mainstream cable channel and it was an.

investigation into the relationship. between you know potential government. cover-ups potential government secrets. and what is going on that could help. describe or explain some of these. phenomenon that people have been seeing. whether it's phenomenon in the sky or. phenomenon on the ground or or. phenomenon that people experience. physiologically right is there a. connection there. um and you know when I get releases to. talk about the show I'll happy to share. it all with you but. the point was we got to actually.

investigate these questions we got to. look at data we got to travel we got to. do some experiments to see if we could. understand more about what what is. actually happening with UAP UFO uh. phenomenon and how does it relate to the. government right the U.S government. specifically. what I've landed on is a couple of. things so first. there's there's absolutely classified. information that we're not being shared. that's not being shared with us. and that sucks because without that.

information we don't have all the. information we can't make a sound. conclusion for ourselves so there's. absolutely some element that's being. controlled by the government that. doesn't mean that it's alien Tech being. protect being controlled by the. government it just means that some some. bean counter somewhere has chosen these. 15 reports to not be shared publicly who. knows what they say but for sure there's. some element where we're not being told. all the facts the government has. on top of that you've got real National.

Security concerns we're trying to. develop new weapons all the time new. aircraft new missile Delivery Systems uh. technology that we can't even fathom yet. right maybe there's hovercraft. technology maybe there's maybe there's. who knows teleporting technology. there's actual National Security secrets. that should be protected which is. different than the information that. doesn't need to be protected but they're. protecting it anyways so but between the.

government secrets that should be there. and the government secrets that don't. need to be there there's a lot of empty. holes in our understanding. so in my experience I've seen strange. lights in the sky we've gone to some of. the areas out there where people have. reported UFO sightings historic repeat. UFO sightings I've seen some very. strange lights in the sky I've seen. triangle patterns I've seen uh lights. that jump from place to place I mean. I've I've literally traveled.

investigated and seen these things and I. have no explanation for what they are. but they're happening in the sky in. certain places at high altitude where. are you seeing these at the Southwest. primarily if you're looking in those. Skies over Nevada Arizona Colorado. that's a that's a really concentrated. area they're the Four Corners Utah. that's a that's an area where there is a. ton of concentrated just strangeness. right that's also an area that's Rife.

with government experimentation that's. where we have all of our experimental. flight zones that's where we have you. have huge uh areas of of commercial air. traffic that go through there plus it's. wide open beautiful clear sky. you can actually see satellites from. Earth when you look up in an empty dark. sky it's incredible what you can see in. a normal Sky most people don't take the. time to look up. most people who do look up they don't.

get that kind of a dark sky they get a. sky with a lot of light pollution. because they live in or near a city so. you might see 15 or 50 stars but you. don't see the Milky Way when you see the. Milky Way You See. all sorts of things moving in the sky. that you never would have imagined you. would see. and part of the reason is because so. many more people are putting up. satellites now you've got SpaceX puts up. satellites governments put up satellites. commercial entities across the world put.

up satellites I mean for crying out loud. a tesi lot which is a French. Communications company. a tesi lot puts up satellites on an. almost monthly basis building a network. of satellite-based cellular. communication that they use around the. world commercially right. so there's so much in the sky people see. it all the time. and we don't know what we're looking at. it's not it doesn't pop up on on a. flight tracker nobody announced that. they're going to put something in the.

sky you just start to see it. now a satellite looks pretty clear right. it's a straight line it moves at a. steady speed starts in one place ends in. another place. but the stuff that's up there isn't. always a satellite. I've seen strange glowing orbs. like balls of light that change. direction I have no idea what that is is. that an airplane oh yeah how many times. maybe three and only in the last two. months well I've been shooting the show.

wow. but what is it could it be. could it be like. uh an alien aircraft maybe it could also. be a domestic aircraft that forgot to. turn off its headlight. probably not but it could be. it could also be a natural phenomenon. I've learned about things like ball. lightning have you ever heard of ball. lightning no lightning. the this the environmental conditions. that create lightning can actually be. created on a small microcosm and in a.

ball so it's lightning in a ball. it just looks like a light in the middle. of nowhere floating there's also. indicators pre-indicators of of. earthquakes there's geological effects. that happen that release energy. electromagnetic energy into the. atmosphere when the energy comes up from. a fault line. and comes in contact with certain. conditions in the atmosphere it creates. lights in clouds almost like a like a.

light switch in a cloud and all of a. sudden the cloud is a light and floating. right we know these things exist they've. been studied they've been talked about. but they're not mainstream. so how many of the lights that people. are seeing that are strange are these. true geological or aerial phenomenon. that can be explained right unknown. aerial phenomenon UAP versus known. aerial phenomenon Kap.

unless you know the ball lightning. exists you're not going to know what it. looks like when you see it so there's. there's this subset of celestial things. satellites. that we understand then there's a subset. of just unidentified domestic or. unidentified commercial things like. aircraft and then you've got these. natural phenomenon like ball lightning. only after you've gotten through all. three of those do you get to the really. really strange stuff and I mean that is.

stuff that I don't know whether or not. I've even seen really really strange. stuff because there's so much going on. in the sky yeah. what what do you think about free energy. a lot of people think that. the government is hiding. free energy from us so you think that. you know it's interesting I know that. I mean back when Nikola Tesla was. experimenting with a way to create.

energy and transfer it across large. distances it was always with an eye. towards having it be free and accessible. by all people. some of the places interestingly enough. some of the places where there are large. amounts of of UFO and UAP sightings are. actually also the same locations where. Nikola Tesla had scoped them out as a. transfer point for free energy really.

because of the geology in those. locations there's a what I have come to. to confidently land on. is that there is absolutely a connection. between the geology of a location. and. the energetics of that location and how. they impact UFOs and uaps and let me. just give you a real quick example. there are parts of the country where the. soil Underground. the the geological conditions.

underground are heavy in metals like. iron ore or copper ore and quartz which. is a a rock most of us know what quartz. is right when those two conditions exist. a heavy metal ore paired with quartz. you're essentially creating a scenario. in which the the molten core of the. Earth. can charge an artificial battery or a. natural battery.

because the metal mashed with the quartz. creates a a type of reaction where the. energy from the core of the earth is. stored in the courts and then it's. released to the surface through the. quartz not through the actual core of. the Earth in areas that don't have a. layer of quartz like that energy is. free-flowing. but in areas where there is a heavy. Focus or a heavy concentration of quartz. that battery power charges and then you. actually see higher electromagnetic. energy Fields okay right Sedona Arizona.

someplace we were talking about recently. there's a fantastic report online if you. just do a quick Google search for Sedona. or look for Sedona Arizona. magnetic anomalies right or U.S. Geological Survey USGS Sedona Arizona. magnetic anomalies. look for look up that and you're going. to come across a report from 2005 that. the U.S Geological Service did that. talks all about how the ground.

underneath the city of Sedona. is unique specifically because of this. ability to to capture and store energy. from the core of the Earth. it's a fascinating thing. Sedona Arizona is also one of those. areas where people report seeing. lots of strange UFOs sightings of things. they can't explain energy vortexes that. you know change and alter their. psychology and their mental state I mean. and.

could it all be related to the energy. that's happening Underground. I would say yes it absolutely could be. related it even maybe like high. probability medium confidence that it's. related to the energy underground. because it just all of those things. scientifically they all make sense they. all match up. the difference that we have in a place. like Sedona. versus other parts of Utah Nevada New. Mexico Colorado is that we don't know we. don't know if those areas have the same.

kind of magnetic. geology like we see in Sedona. so I mean I'm it's all my way of saying. that in my experience. what we see in the skies are real. and they're really unexplained. but we may not we may be reaching a. little bit too far when we associate. what we see in the sky with intelligent. life. what we see in the sky could it could. and is scientifically proven to be. related to what happens Underground.

so maybe we should be looking. underground first and then considering. life at altitude right because if again. I like to put you and I in the position. where what would we do. if you were in charge of researching. another planet. and you were studying another planet. and you s and you saw in your studies. that there's a natural energy source in. a certain area of that planet. that's probably the first place that you.

would go. so when I think of the fact that there's. a natural energy source under a place. like Sedona Arizona. if I was a visiting intelligent life. form that's one of the first places I. would go why would I check out Arkansas. why would I go check out. you know Wisconsin when I could check. out what is this strange energy. signature coming underground at this. location in Arizona interesting very. interesting you know what else is. interesting is all of these uh Wonders. of the World the pyramids Stonehenge.

Machu Picchu is it Easter Island these. are all on fault lines. oh I didn't know that did you not know. that no all of those are. on top of fault blinds what should bring. what frequency and vibration yep and a. crack in the in the crust that would. allow energy to come out that's really. interesting I did not ever make that. connection yeah yeah and then I don't. know how many of them. um are connected this way but if you.

drew a line you know from let's say mono. Peach Machu Picchu to the pyramids. everything in between. it's a you can take a line and go all. the way around the earth and it's I. can't remember how wide it is a couple. hundred miles I think. all of these places exist in that belt. yes. that's the kind of stuff that really. makes me. just so curious about what explains it.

all it's it's too. coincidental. to be coincidence. it's it just reeks of some kind of. intelligent design. but what is that intelligent design. right is that evidence of some kind of. uh heaven and some kind of God is it. evidence of something like our planet. was manufactured or created is it. evidence of the fact that we were once. colonized in the past and then that. Civilization died and was replaced by.

dinosaurs and then died and was replaced. by us like there's so many questions. there. yeah there's a lot of questions all. right. but um. but um. yeah we could we could spend all day. diving into this but but um. but I think I think this is a good place. to to end our conversation. um because we're getting into. we're getting into things that we don't.

know about and everything up to this. point has been very factual so. Andy. thank you for all the knowledge. um. I learned a lot about China and a lot. about the Ukraine Russia conflict that I. didn't know before and it it you've. actually shifted my perspective on a. little bit and and I have a little bit. more confidence and that Americans might. lock arms one day yeah. I hope you're right all right man I hope.

I'm right too it's been an awesome. awesome experience sitting here with you. Sean I mean this is these are the kind. of conversations I love having. and I mean if you're anything like me we. just don't get to have them very often. yeah right yeah there's a there's a lot. of conversation that goes into daily. chores and keeping the kids fed and. happy and making work happen and making. careers happen and it's not often we get. to just. jump into the stuff we care about yeah. and tease it out. well I really appreciate you coming and.

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