Afghan Panel - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare | SRS #184

[Music]. all right guys it's uh been a minute. since I've seen you and so here we are. we're going to talk about Syria. Afghanistan where the funding it where. the bills are and stuff when the federal. government to to I guess what do we call. it defund the Taliban for the 40 to 87. million we're sending them a week. through various Nos and um you know talk.

about you know I think the big thing we. want to talk about today uh on top of. all that or what what can communities do. you know we're it's at the top level and. there's only so much we can do but what. one of the things that we can do is is. talk to communities and down at the. local level and and just get them. thinking about this having the. conversations and and coming up with. some plans and stuff that they can do. but um you guys don't need it any.

introduction uh all of you have been on. the show Scott several times Sarah. several times Legend but just quick. intro Legend can't reveal your face cuz. you're still doing the Secret Squirrel. stuff and uh you're back and forth in. and out of Kus so so we will reveal your. identity but Afghan. American former Army intelligence Sarah. former CIA analyst former CIA targeter. Scott for former Green Beret and uh all.

of you guys have a very extensive Intel. type Network um and and they all seem to. be pretty different networks it's not. like you guys are just. all getting your information from the. same sources and so so that's that's. kind of what we're going to cover today. and uh I just want to say thank you for. coming back I love even though the. conversations are heavy I just love. seeing you guys so thanks for making it.

back but um but uh so let's kind of. start with some of the Intel stuff Sarah. I know you have uh some info on this. right now media is blown up Christians. are being massacred in Syria and um what. so give us some insight there how is. this happening why it's happening you. know give us what you know about the. situation going on in Syria sure I'm. going to have to go back in time just a. a little bit so if we go back to.

November 2021 that is the time basically. the planning started for the Syrian. Blitz Craig um how it all came together. actually is one of our Benghazi plotters. the one I talk about all the time Musa. bin Ali him and Abu Muhammad Al jalani. the current president of Syria um we're. running a lot of terine facilitation. networks in the Syria they've been doing. this for well over a decade they run a. really big terrorist camp in Libya south. of misada and so they got together.

and um basically decided let's um you. know pull in al-Qaeda and the Taliban. you know let's do in Syria what happened. in Afghanistan right so it was November. of 2021 when Abu jalani came to. Afghanistan and he sat down with Musa um. sadin hakani who is the Minister of. interior of Afghanistan and Mula yakub. who is the Minister of Defense of. Afghanistan right and they came up with. this plot and planning to do the Syrian.

Blitz Creek so as you can imagine um. julani didn't have enough fighters to. take all of Syria by himself so the plan. they came up with is the Taliban said. okay we'll give you training camps in. Nahar Province right you can come here. and safely train because at the time. jilani's camps were outside of Al alom. Military Base in Syria and they were. being bombed and they couldn't safely. train there so they moved a lot of their. training to Afghanistan but it wasn't. enough so Al-Qaeda and specifically.

Hamza Bin Laden said hey we'll train a. certain number of Fighters for you what. do you need and um julani said I need. 10,000 Fighters so for those couple. years Al-Qaeda then trained an. additional 10,000 Fighters inside of. Afghanistan on top of what gulani was. sending okay so then they all go to. Syria and as we saw two years later. three years later right November 2024. the Syrian Blitz Creek happened and. julani took over now when julani took. over oddly the press and the American.

diplomats and we saw EU and the UN all. leaned in and they're like oh this is. bringing democracy to Syria oh he's. going to have an inclusive government. same language we heard in Afghanistan. where the intention is to make Syria. just like Afghanistan to make it an. Islamic caliphate so julani plans to. ethnically cleanse the Christians the. alawites the Kurds Etc because that is. the plan to bring in the Islamic Cal F.

just like the Taliban has been. ethnically cleansing um you know. obviously people from panser the hazaras. in Afghanistan it's the exact same. Playbook the exact same model and a lot. of the exact same people so if we're not. honest about the roots of how julani. took Syria then we're not going to be. able to understand what's going on but. what understand what's going on makes. perfect sense how many Christians have. been executed I don't really know the. number of Christians um cuz they've also. hit the these all white neighborhoods um.

what is that what's an all white. neighborhood it's it well it's just. another minority in the country we. mostly know the Kurds because we fought. with the Kurds and they're going to move. on obviously and do the Kurds so the. reporting come out of Syria as you can. imagine is very limited right because. the government like Afghanistan is not. run by terrorists right so we're maybe. seeing 10% of the numbers so we're. hearing like in the thousands but we. just honestly don't know the number and. even all the years there was a Syrian.

Civil War it was so hard to get the. numbers of people being killed like. during the Syrian Civil War when Assad. was basically killing his own people. he's also a bad guy right you don't want. Assad in the country you don't want. gulani in the country over 500,000. syrians died right like we ignored all. this are pressed in and put it out and. now they act like they're caring about. something when these atrocities have. been going on for a long time in Syria. now it's just a terrorist doing them. right a terrorist that the US government. now has an official relationship with.

they share intelligence with him and the. US Department of Defense has for the. last month been taking out juani's. Rivals so we've been consolidating power. for this terrorist who's now ethnically. cleansing in his country wow how are. they how just go over the caliphate. again sure so a lot of the listeners. don't understand what that is so can you. just give us a definition of that yeah. sure and I mean I bet Legend could do a. much better job of explaining like the. history but over time there's basically.

five Islamic caliphates the last one I. believe ended like the 1940s right when. the Ottoman Empire fell so the. terrorists want to recreate and reinvent. the caliphate the person actually. leading this is Hamza Bin Laden cuz his. father said I don't care if it takes a. hundred years right we're going to. reestablish the caliphate well hams is. like I'm going to do it in my lifetime. to honor my father so he's been as you. can imagine connecting with a lot of the. groups Sunni Shia it doesn't matter and.

saying we got to do this as a team and. we have to work together so basically. the first country in the calade is Iran. even though that was came in a long time. ago so they view that as already in the. calate so now in this present generation. Afghanistan's one Syria's two and then. their next move looks like I thought it. was going to be Molly but now looks like. Somalia first so they're going to try to. either drop get Molly or somal an next. to be the next country that falls to the. Terrace and becomes a piece of this Cal. F and then over time they just want to.

keep they want to do Iraq um Burkina. Faso Libya right so they have a plan. over time to keep doing what they did in. what they think they did in Afghanistan. and what they definitely did in. Syria wow so so basically they're if I'm. hearing this right they are going. through back to just Syria they're going. through demographic Group by Group by. group so they haven't reached the Cur J.

correct well the interesting part is. they tried to get so the sad part is. when gulani took over he did kind of one. of those you got to turn your weapons in. you got to register sadly a lot of um. the Christians and all the whites turned. the weapons in right the West was. pushing this the Kurds are like we're. not giving up our weapons a lot of. people even think tanks in the US. government is like Kurds turn in your. weapons be a part of this new this new. democracy this new inclusive governments. the Kurds luckily didn't the Kurds are. still being attacked you know by the.

Turkish government so it's not like. there's nothing going on there but but. of course it's going to end up being. some sort of larger War cuz the Kurds. are not going to obviously um give their. weapons over the terrorists what do you. think about I mean from my understanding. we're leaving Syria correct so I I I got. a really good friend he green beray just. just served over there sounds like it's. going to be one of the last deployments. over there and and the Kurds are are. really.

I mean they're obviously very worried. about what happens to them when we pull. out should should we be what what's your. opinion should we be pulling out of. there or should we stay there well I at. least know when they plan the Syrian. Blitz cig there's basically two key. parts of it right so they planned it. because the US is about to pull out it. was even going to try to push them out. faster right um but also a part of the. planning um so there are these camp in. Syria right it's mostly known where the.

Isis women and children are but there's. some fighters in them too um I think. gosh there's like over 40,000 Isis. members in these camps some are children. though you know what I mean and so. that's one of the big pieces of this. push so when the US leaves we're going. to hand those camps over to julani and. his exclusive government and he's. already made a promise this was part of. the whole deal that they're going to. release the women and children in those. camps so the the real deal here is when. we leave. basically it helps to reestablish Isis.

the next generation of Isis um mean even. Al-Qaeda and the Taliban have offered to. take 10,000 of those women and children. bring them to Afghanistan give them um. sustenance make sure the women can get. remarried into Jihadi families and build. that next generation of terrorists too. so this is going to be a huge win for. Isis when we leave Syria but I do think. we're going to leave Syria I mean it's. not my choice if we leave or stay but. I'm just saying the the basically the.

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seems like it's growing it seems like. every time we leave it gets bigger. faster and so how for the do you have. something yeah well I want to point out. so we we fight terrorists but we have no. end games for them okay so so basically. all the terrorists I know that we. captured in Pakistan got freed right. because they didn't go through the. Pakistani Judicial System we didn't. extradite them to the United States. beside a couple of really high level. like college Muhammad right so after.

like 5 years the the Pakistani prisons. are getting full they're like what do. you want to do with them us okay release. them the detes we picked up in Iraq we. release them these ones in Syria are. going to get released the GMO detainees. we relase what 80% of them plus so we. have no end game for these terrorists so. then we put them back out on the street. and then they build the Next Generation. so we're not actually defeating them. we're just holding them 5 to seven years. and then restarting the entire process. again there is no end game for terrorist.

is. this is this on purpose is this because. us wants to be at War because it's a big. money-making machine why why don't we. end it the problem is in my opinion the. US plans in two to four year Cycles how. they're funded nobody is in it for the. long term one is because of how we elect. politicians but the funding Cycles in. the Department of Defense right it's. like let's get this money this time. here's our mission we don't have.

long-term strategic plans you know I. mean everyone talks about it but it is. the greatest example right the end of. Charlie Wilson's War when he says hey we. put all this money into these weapons. right let's put money into education and. no one wanted to think of it longterm. and then you know we got unfortunately. the problems we had with 911 so we are. horrible at the long-term planning there. is no longterm endgame for terrorists. they know it they all know they're going. to get released they all know they're. going to get back in the battlefield and. so you have no repercussions it it gives.

you a. confidence interesting do you guys have. anything to add on that I mean I would. love to hear Legends take on you know. the long game that these individuals. play with the caliphate and I think. that's it starts with that you know we. have a we have. a b is me looking back on 20 years of. war I think we have a very Western way. of thinking about things and a preferred. way of War you know look at how we we. took counterinsurgency and we literally. lifted over from Viet Vietnam and. applied it into Afghanistan into that.

rural. Insurgency so we applied a. counterinsurgency model and fought it. for 20 years and you know mixed in with. a CT strategy where we were essentially. mowing the grass you know cutting the. heads off but then new ones grew but I I. do think that when you we really have to. look carefully at how do these. individuals think about their ingame. they're fighting a a if necessary a. multi-century narrative you know they're. they're prepared to stay with this thing.

you know uh to the end and and and you. know they love uh it's often said they. love they love death as much as we love. life in order to achieve that so I just. don't think we're even in the same arena. in terms of mindset and we don't fully. appreciate the level of persistence that. they have to meet their strategic goals. and that they have no. intention they being the you know small. percentage of islamist radicals who are. hijing this religion they have no.

intention of coexisting with the West. see you. know it's a everybody seems to be all of. our adversaries seem to be such. long-term thinkers China has a 200-year. plan terrorists have a long game plan I. mean what do you guys think about what. we're seeing in Europe through their. immigration policies I mean you go over. there now you go to Paris you know the. the kind of the the the tourism District.

seems fine you leave and it's these. islamist extremist neighborhoods and. same thing's going on in London same. thing's going on in. Belgium uh when me and you were at the. inauguration we spoke with the the. oncoming ambassador to Belgium he was. talking to us about this I'm hoping to. interview him uh Germany it's happening. there and you know I saw uh my friend. Joe Lonsdale put out a tweet not too.

long ago and and he's he was kind. of how do I say this he was kind of he. was just broaching the idea hey what. happens when Europe gets completely. flipped from Christian nations who are. run by Christians to is islamist. extremists and what what does that look. like not just for Europe but for the. entire world I mean there there goes. there goes our Ally. you know and so I mean what what do you.

what do you think about that. Legend well first of all thank you very. much for having me you're welcome it's. an honor to be here on your show again. with Lieutenant Colonel man and Miss. Adams I brought you a gift is aak from. Afghanistan oh thank you thank you. you're welcome well I have since we're. on gifts I have gifts for you guys too. it's probably the only reason you keep. coming back well now that I saw that.

Palmer ate him during the episode I'm. like good I'm just gonna start eating. them now I'm not gonna bring them home. we can eat them during the episode yeah. absolutely this should be like a. pre-brief these come in ranch flavor. they will work on that I know you loveer. we should do that work on that I'm still. addicted to wrench and uh one other gift. Legend you familiar with the unplugged. phone I am yes perfect I gave Sarah one. I've given Scott one and uh so that was. developed by Eric Prince I met with.

their team lots of veterans tech people. entrepreneurs and basically what that is. that's a it's it's a way to get around. big. Tech spying on us basically take. stealing our data and uh they've put a. lot of a lot. of it's just a great phone there's. there's a lot of uh developments that. they put into that phone there's a kill. switch so nobody can listen to it. actually separates the battery from the.

from the actual device so nobody can. listen in um. Instagram X Google none of those can. suck your advertising data out of that. phone and so it's it's a just a. everybody's worried about big Tech. censorship and so I thought you should. have one too this is a great gift thank. you and I thank Eric Prince as well I. recently met him uh somewhere in the. east coast he's a very smart man great. guy great guy great guy gentleman and. very smart man but thank you very much.

that Air Prince Line is going to. probably start a lot of. rumors good point but um but what do you. what do you think about what I just said. about Europe I would like to if you let. me go back to what uh your first. question about Syria uh I don't follow. Syria a lot mostly focused on. Afghanistan but it's all connected you. know and so what I've been hearing is. that there are Taliban fighters in Syria.

there are Taliban members that supported. Alani uh during his takeover of Syria. just a few months ago and that there are. Taliban fighters in Syria right now. currently at the moment so that is one. two the second thing I've heard is that. they're killing a lot of religious. minorities and many many Christians. they're being slaughtered on a daily. basis Alani uh I not too famili with him. but I've read some and based on the.

intelligence that I have seen from that. part of the world Alani is a terrorist. he was a terrorist he was a Jihadi and. he's still a Jihadi the only thing is he. has dropped his turban and worn a suit. and an Neti but he's still a terrorist. and so what is really disturbing is the. fact that the US state department. dropped $10 million bounty on his head. and all of a sudden the justice Rewards. program State Department website.

completely just the page that showed the. bounty on him completely disappeared in. a matter of minutes M so he was a. terrorist on uh Monday Monday evening he. was no longer a terrorist now he's a. state official and he's traveling. everywhere and under his command his. army is actually slaughtering Christians. they're slaughtering Muslims and other. religious minorities in Syria so they. aren't just targeting Christians m no. there they are killing lots of.

Christians right now and this is. unfortunately something if unless the US. president Trump takes action this is. something that will continue very. rapidly remember El Jani was a member of. Isis you saw what Isis did to Christians. the Christian minority community in Iraq. what did they do they slaughtered them. they beheaded them they executed them. dumped their bodies in the. river they're doing the same thing in. Syria right. now level horror that were just. unimaginable.

mhm all like all the videos we saw. burning him alive yeah put him in the. cages drowning them putting kids in. cages dropping them in the river that. kind of stuff and they take the women as. slaves as sex. slaves so this is something that. President Trump can this is. unfortunately the um jolan's reward his. status as terrorist was removed by Mr. Joe Biden the last Administration during. that's one of the final things they did.

and so now we have a new Administration. I wish president Trump reimposes those. um reist him as a terrorist which he is. and so once a Jihadi you're always a. Jihadi you don't change. overnight that man is killing Christians. he is killing other religious minorities. and my fear is that this is going to. worsen it's going to increase especially. now that he has Taliban members with. them and he's is getting support from. the leadership of the.

Taliban what about. Europe what about Europe the immigration. the immigration look Sean what happens. if it switches brother let me tell you. this uh I was telling this. earlier if we look at this as hey all. Muslims are terrorists you have 1.6. billion Muslims in the world if they. were terrorist you would see it you. would see the problem that's not the. case these individuals they uh and I'm.

not saying at the same time that there. is not a terrorism problem in Islam. there is and it's unfortunately true and. it's happening in Muslim countries are. not taking the lead taking action. against it why is it that America should. be the one to go and fix all of this. stuff why aren't s why isn't Saudi. Arabia taking action or Cutter or. UAE uh I'll go back to the European. stuff the immigration it is Europe has a. open border policy they allow everyone.

and anyone in they don't vet and then. all of a sudden you see. stabbings uh I recently saw that some um. unfortunately an Afghan immigrant. stabbed I think a 4-year-old. child and his. parent and then when the cops arrested. him he was just. laughing you will see that laughter in. America here in our own community. unless that border is closed the.

southern border and unless you start. vetting and unless you start paying. attention to who you are allowing into. this. country Europe opened its borders all of. these migrants came in and now they're. dealing with it I mean the other fear. too is not just Street crime I mean when. I'm talking about our allies and we're. talking about a no immigration policy I. mean these are nuclear Powers as well. and you know we been back and forth with. Iran well what happens when UK gets o.

when when the UK government gets. overturned and it is all Islamic. extremist go ahead sir well I think one. of the things too we focus on like the. immigration coming into a country which. we could flip um something politically. but it's not the immigration it's first. off corruption in countries there's a. lot of corruption in um Europe and what. happens with that corruption is people. take advantage of it obviously the one. group that's taking the most advantage. of it is the Muslim Brotherhood right I.

mean that's why Switzerland is the. number one country in Europe with. terrorists in it especially high level. terrorist is because of the Muslim. Brotherhood influence also cutter has a. lot of influence and money in Europe and. there a big piece of this turkey. obviously can't um seem to choose sides. and they do a lot of enabling for a. different terrorist groups especially. Isis right and allow all these terorists. to flow through their borders they. provide them passports Etc so if you. don't deal with the Muslim Brotherhood.

ban them the the influence of cutter and. then um you allow turkey to stay in NATO. with their um actions and and you know. they have a big play in Syria um then. that's the problem right it it's it's. they're the ones causing the influence. putting the money into politics and. making those shifts so I think we need. to be honest about them because that. happens here too cutter has a huge. influence on our universities and we saw. that kind of play out right with so much.

support of Hamas um the Muslim. Brotherhood we can't even get the mus so. the Muslim Brotherhood is banned in. multiple countries right like Saudi. Arabia like the Emirates we can't ban. them in the United States because they. give so much money to both political. parties right that's scary um so we need. to deal with kind of the the heads of. the Snake Here interesting interesting. can I add something. absolutely look um 911 hijackers right. those 19 attackers and their supporters.

entered the us legally the state. department gave them visas Nas Ahmed. toii and Oklahoma who wanted to kill. Americans on Election Day last year and. he was apprehended he was evacuated from. Afghanistan by who by the agency by the. US government the open borders the US. government uh keeps the southern border. open or for whatever reason they kept. that border open for four years and we. know for a fact that. uh jihadists who want to kill Americans.

in the name of Islam enter the United. States these criminal organizations. these terrorists they have hijacked. Islam and Islamic symbols they're not. Muslim they want to kill Americans in. the name of Islam and the US government. allows it they allow these people to. enter the country and in the case of 911. like I said they even gave them visas. now look I am an American Muslim I've. been warning the US government the. resistance that is fighting the. terrorists on the ground for the past.

four years they have been warning that. these terrorists will attack you again. they're in your communities the US. government ignores me the US government. ignores Colonel man Sarah Adams the. resistance everyone and then sadly God. forbid the next terrorist attack will. occur as it did on 911 then what happens. it's the same politicians in DC that. ignore us now will Dev will turn around. and say all Muslims are terrorists. this is something we need to take care.

of right. away I just I don't understand I mean. there's a lot I don't understand but. what why what is this. just that's why I'm asking do they want. us to get attacked so that we can. go and do another War I just don't see. that level of coherence at our federal. government level and this is this is not. Administration specific I just just. based on for example Sean what happened.

with the withdrawal in Afghanistan you. know that was I think the National. Security Council put out its evacuation. memo on 14 August yeah right and and and. you know I have it on good authority. that that thing was one hell of an. afterthought like they were scrambling. to get that and this was just this was. like who was to prioritize for. evacuation Cobble fell on the 15th this. thing came out on the 14th so there's. nothing at least that I've seen that. tells me. that there's like a coherent approach to.

this of keeping it going I think it from. from my perspective it's more of a just. an inability to to really it's it's. huous I mean it's arrogance at an at an. Institutional level to think that we we. really comprehend and appreciate just. the persistence will and capacity of. this threat you know I mean even if you. just look at like where we are today is. so reminiscent of pre 911 you know I. went in I think I was telling you guys. yesterday when we did the briefing you.

know I went into a I'll just say it I. mean a Carolina Duke game at Chapel Hill. this past weekend you know to to see a. long a storied basketball rivalry right. 21,000 seat capacity in the Dean Smith. Center not one metal detector in main. primary entry points the only search. that happened was if you had a bag like. if you declared a bag so there were no. metal detectors of a 21,000 seat venue.

and I mean anyone I would hope watching. or hearing this like sits up at that. because that's new you know and I and I. got to believe that's not isolated to. Chapel Hill and and that is what I worry. about more than anything else is that. humans are just um. ridiculously short memory you know and. and we tend to forget and dismiss and. then we tell ourselves narratives that. this isn't going to happen you tell. ourselves that the ocean's going to. protect us and we just need to focus on. things are at home but the reality is.

this one has followed us. home let's move into we'll get to that. we'll get to what we're seeing and what. we can do you know at the local. community here at the end but Let's do. let's move back into what we're here to. talk about today so you guys have any. intel updates since the last time we. spoke I mean Scott me and you talk on a. pretty pretty regular basis but it's. been about a month I think since we've. spoken sir it's been a couple months. since you've been here a legend it's.

been several months and so I'm just what. are the updates that you're seeing out. from Afghanistan in these terrorist. networks well I can go. first the well the resistance is still. fighting the Taliban alqaeda Isis ikp. and the rest of the terrorist. organizations that are there the. intelligence networks that America. helped build in Afghanistan they're. still operation. not I'm not talking about the GDI the.

talibans I'm talking about the ones that. are under the control of the resistance. they're when talk when you bring up. acronyms like the GDI you have to. understand the audience doesn't. understand what that is so the GDI is. the taliban's intelligence service. correct correct general directorate of. intelligence the head of uh GDI is. abdulhak wask a man who was a prisoner. at Guantanamo Bay. and America released him and now he's.

leading taliban's. intelligence and so there is other. intelligence networks operational in. Afghanistan uh the most active ones are. led by President s am Sal he runs an. organization called Afghanistan green. Trend and there are many other. intelligent networks but by far the. one's most reliable intelligence that. I've seen comes from. AGT which is Afghanistan green. Trend what I have heard and what I have.

seen the the documents that I have seen. shows. that pertaining to America that there. are over a th000 Taliban and ISP. operatives in the United. States and this. 1,000 are not the individuals that were. emboldened after the United States. abandoned Afghanistan and withdrew these. are not the individuals in the. afghan-american community in the.

diaspora or those we brought in 120,000. that were evacuated they're not members. of those communities who are now. sympathetic towards the Taliban the. Thousand or so that I mentioned these. are deep cover. operatives that report to S aani and. then the leadership of the Taliban and. ISP and where's this Intel coming from. the anti-taliban.

resistance who's running. that there are several resistance fronts. you met Commander Ahmed masud the leader. of the national resistance front there's. also president amas s who's leading. Afghanistan green Trend and can you talk. about him that's where I was going with. this President s yes of course yes well. the man needs no introduction but I will. I'll do my best he was he has been.

fighting in the resistance one way or. another since I think he was 15 or 16. from what I've seen. he he did liazon Intelligence liazon. work under the leadership of Commander. Ahmed sha masud who used to lead who led. the resistance against the Soviet. invasion of Afghanistan and then also. then against the Taliban in al-Qaeda. president Mr s at that point did liazon. work. for him he led intelligence and then.

after the United States went into. Afghanistan in 2001 he became the head. of Afghanistan's intelligence the. national directorate of security so. that's the Afghan version of the Central. Intelligence Agency correct America. helped build it in Afghanistan the head. of that intelligence unit NDS was Mr s. he literally built that uh NDS in. Afghanistan I don't think there's any.

American intelligence official that is. unfamiliar with Mr s he was and he I. believe he still is our Ally and so. after that um he became the minister of. interior in. Afghanistan um and then after that he. started AGT in 2011 which is Afghanistan. green TR green Trend which is one of the. main political parties in Afghanistan um. grassroot movement uh had millions of um.

members inside. Afghanistan in I believe it was 2019 Mr. s became uh won the elections and became. the first vice president of Afghanistan. under the gani administration Ashraf. gani was the president Mr Sali was his. vice president and so in August 15 2021. when Mr ghani the former president fled. Afghanistan to Dubai and abandon. everything Mr sale vice president Sali.

did not flee Afghanistan he instead went. to painer Valley which was the only. province that had not Fallen to the. Taliban and he declared the national. resistance against the Taliban and. because Mr gani had fled according to. article 60 and 67 of the Constitution of. Afghanistan Mr s became the acting. president of. Afghanistan Mr s president s now his.

time in office ended in July of 2024. just a few months ago and so he being a. spy I think spies never quit and so he. went back to his just like Sarah Adams. doesn't quit spies don't quit he went. back to Leading intelligence in. Afghanistan and his network is. operational in Afghanistan and I don't. think anyone. has as much sources under his control as. Mr s in that.

region so that's where a lot of this. info's coming from correct he runs he's. correct yes yes and I think it's. important to note here too because a lot. of folks to your question you know they. they they they're watching this and. they're like okay well these are you. know veterans getting this like why. aren't we getting this from the. intelligence Community or why aren't we. getting this from the formal. institutions and one thing I'll just. give as an example Legend won't talk. about it but you know Mr s was abandoned. just like a whole bunch of other Afghan.

assets were abandoned uh on August 15th. we're talking 98 to. 99% of the human intelligence Assets in. Afghanistan that took 20 years to build. were left behind and this is coming from. the former centcom Commander. right what happened was a lot of. veterans like Legend who had. pre-existing relationships found ways to. do humanitarian Outreach in those. moments to fill the Gap because no one. else is picking up the phone and also. had the foresight as an intelligence guy.

to say well it's probably not a good. idea to leave Mr Sal you know out there. on his own and so over these last. several years you know Legend has. cultivated a relationship you know and. and really done the job and I just don't. know any other way to say it right done. the job uh of what of what a formal. intelligence agency would normally do. with a massive asset like that so now. you've got literally the guy who was. regarded as the father of Afghanistan.

intelligence talking primarily to an. Afghan American Army US army. NCO and that's where that primary. relationship took place now multiply. that Sean at scale you have Sarah Adams. doing her version of that me doing my. version of that with Afghan Special. Forces and Commandos and that's what's. evolved over the last four years is by. by the virtue of abandoning 98 to 99% of. our intelligence capability and our.

Commandos and our special ops the. veteran Community stepped into the. breach and took over those relationships. for primarily humanitarian reasons but. here we are four years later and what. you have is high veracity intelligence. and Reporting coming through these. channels instead of formal. channels you sign up for something. forget about it after the trial ends. then you're charged month after month. after month the subscriptions are there.

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keeping in communication with them if. this is such a big. threat they have communication they are. bringing intelligence but it's from the. Taliban so we lost 989 98 to 99% of our. collection and our assets we developed. over 20 years we're now bringing in. reporting um but it's from the Taliban. the Taliban is now the source of the US. government and the source of counter. terrorism information in Afghanistan the. GDI yes so that's who we get.

intelligence from and from sarajen. hakani and there was you know there was. a political calculus to the when we left. Afghanistan in. 2021 and you saw it happen where the. former Administration made a conscious. decision um to not engage members of the. resistance you know and Legend can speak. very specifically to that but there were. overt you know actions by the state. department and other to to essentially. block or impede uh or just not conduct.

any kind of Outreach with resistance. forces you know and so a lot of these. high veracity assets that you you would. normally that we cultivated for 20 years. they were talking to Veterans they were. talking to intelligence alone not and. there was no formal relationship so you. know guys like. Legend maintained and cultivated this. relationship over four years knowing. that it's some point you know maybe. adults come back in the room we're going.

to we're going to want those relation. we're going to need those relationships. we're going to need those members of the. resistance right and so I think that's. where we are today we're at like this. strategic Crossroads where we are. looking at a new Administration our. veteran population from the global war. on terror in my assessment has done an. amazing job of recognizing uh an. Institutional shortfall and they have. kept it going somehow cashing in their. Pension funds and their kids College. accounts to keep these individuals alive.

but they've done it but you know how. much more and how much longer are we. going to ask that of of these veterans. to do that Sean it's not even uh only. the intelligence that the US. intelligence that deals with the Taliban. it's even the state department like take. for example miss Karen Decker Ambassador. Karen De Karen Decker uh US ambassador. to Afghanistan she was appointed by the. previous administration by Mr Joe Biden. she still the US ambassador under the. Trump. Administration Ambassador Karen Decker.

is literally acting as The Unofficial. first lady of the Taliban she's in. direct communication with every Taliban. Governor all over Afghanistan she has. denounced an armed resistance against. the Taliban against ISP and alqaeda she. has not met with leadership of the. resistance she does not even speak with. the resistance she has denounced the. resistance. so diplomatically it's it's we're. dealing with the Taliban as well not we.

these folks these certain individuals. within the US government are. very I don't know how to say it they do. not want to deal with the resistance. they only want to deal with the Taliban. whenever the resistance the anti-taliban. resistance hosts events political. diplomatic events conferences in order. to unite the Afghan communities uh in. this war against against the Taliban. whenever they meet up in Vienna or dambe.

or anywhere else the state department. under the leadership of Ambassador Karen. Decker dispatches individuals and says. to the host countries to not allow it to. happen wow yeah I mean even our state. department basically went to the. government of Tajikistan right the. leadership and the heads the. intelligence leadership and said don't. have relationships with the resistance. so it's going to affect your. relationship with the US government like. that's at the level it's at and you know.

we need to be honest we have Taliban. sympathizers in our government right we. have them in the state department you. know we likely have them in the NC we. definitely have them in the CIA right. this is a problem unless we root them. out it's just like if when you had. Communists in the government which we. still do right when you have these. influences in the government they're the. ones making these deals they're the ones. making sure the money keeps going to the. Taliban and to the Terrace and so you're. up against those types as well and it is. a lot of money involved in this there's. a there's corruption um involved in. supporting terrorism as well do you.

think Taliban are professionals and. technocrats do I think they're what. professionals and. technocrats they are now well Ambassador. Thomas West believes Taliban are. professionals ins sincere and. technocrats and the crazy part of Thomas. West they've moved into another role in. the state department but what he's in. charge of is sanctions right so we got. now ital Tan sympathizer in charge of. sanctions so how often do you think.

she's sanctioning the Taliban so what. you're really you know if you step back. and just look at it Sean you think about. this you have you know you have a point. of view that is an Institutional point. of view that started to form I don't. know certainly when Afghanistan. collapsed in 2021 this emerging point of. view in our government uh from the. previous administration that the Taliban. uh are actually someone we could deal. with someone we could normalize. relations with someone who. um really offers a better solution not. just in Afghanistan but you know global.

stability right that and and and then. you you see that because you start to. see humanitarian Aid money going there. CT dollars going there you know all the. stuff that you all have talked about but. that that's just that's a reflection of. an Institutional way of thinking right. like this is who we're going to deal. with now and then you also saw just the. omission of any engagement with any of. the Commandos and special forces and. others that we had trained for 20 years. who then went to resist completely on. their own not even tacit political. support and and I so I say all that.

because that is such a Divergent point. of view from the veteran population who. fought this war for 20 years and who has. been on the phone nonstop so you know. you're talking about individuals who. dealt with this threat up close and. personal who understood it who most of. us said never again after 9/11 and we. you know we we gave away our Our Youth. and our and our life to not life but our. you know just everything about our life. to fight this lot of people get a lot of. people did but but you know the larger. Point here is that the people that have.

been on the phone working this side of. it that have that Divergent point of you. they're the ones that fought this war. you know they're the ones that know this. enemy better than anybody and they know. what's at stake and they know what's. coming you know that's the part that. just baffles me is it would be one thing. if this were all you know just a a bunch. of volunteers who jumped into The Fray. because they're looking for something to. do but these are people who honestly. really want to put this behind them. they've moved on with their lives I know. I feel that way you know but they're.

doing this out of a duty to warn because. we've dealt with this enemy for a lot of. years we know what they're capable of we. know they' followed us home and we feel. a duty to warn uh but it is a Divergent. point of view unfortunately that we have. about what the Taliban are about. Al-Qaeda than the current institutional. point of view and we're hoping that we. can bring those together and figure this. out kind of a private public gathering. of of comparing notes over last four. years and start to sort this out sir do.

you have any updates well you know. Legend kind of brought up a bit right he. talked a little bit about sadin hakani. and ISP I think what a lot of people. don't understand is how Al-Qaeda fits. into that and why it matters right so. Al-Qaeda is planning an attack on the US. Homeland but who are they using right to. be involved in that attack sarajen. hakani right he's the minister of. interior in Afghanistan he he allows. basically the terrorist to come into. Afghanistan his um now um kind of like.

cousin um runs the refugee Services. right so his name is Hafiz aani he was. involved in abig Gate um he's also. involved in the US Homeland plot he's. the one that basically takes our. humanitarian dollars and gives it to the. foreign jihadist saying oh they're. refugees coming back into the country. Etc right so there's a whole pipeline of. our money going into these foreign. Fighters enabled by the hakes okay then. then we have the whole ISP problem right. so our counterterrorism dollars goes to.

the Taliban to fight ISP it's a huge. farce we did a whole last month we did. nine days on Twitter um just showing um. operations the Taliban said they did. against ISP and they weren't right there. is a joint training camp you know where. we dro the big um the the big mother of. all bombs um there is a joint training. camp there it's named after SJ Haden's. father the Jalal Adin hakani Training. Center it has Al-Qaeda terrorists there.

ISP terrorists there and hakani network. terrorists there right so when we talk. about al-qaeda's Homeland plot they're. using the hakan to leverage in the plot. they're using Isis to leverage in the. plot and then of course al-qaeda's. leading the plot like think of how. dangerous this is when he says there's a. thousand just under the bucket of ISP. and the hakes right then we talk about. all the groups Al is aligned with how. many of those are in the country cuz. Al-Qaeda is saying that's another.

thousand right so these numbers start to. get really big when you bring all these. groups under one umbrella to fight a. common enemy us right we impacted them. we impacted them in Afghanistan we. impacted them in Iraq and we impacted. them in Syria which is kind of the most. recent open wound right and so they want. our war fighters who did that in those. countries to feel it here they want you. to feel it in your neighborhood at your. home they don't want you to feel safe. where you live now and that's something.

we really need to understand and listen. to right because I do think as Scott. said Israel had a little hubris right. there were reports going in Israel got. information I I saw some of the stuff. passed to Israel about the Hamas guys. training in Afghanistan and you know. they did have some belief something's. going to happen they never thought it. was going to be the scale it was now the. US government is getting the same type. of information Israel is getting. probably a lot more and they're now like. oh that's not going to happen here at. this at that level right we're not going.

to see that happen here and that's very. very dangerous especially when we're. talking about just the numbers that came. in illegally but remember our state. department has been issuing passports. and visas to hakani network guys plenty. of former CIA officers have provided. tips to the government over the last. four years they haven't picked them up. they live in our communities they know. hakan are here right so that's not just. the ter who came here under fake s and. are undercover right so to understand.

just how many are in our country is. really scary and yes we're starting to. close the border but we now need to go. back and revet everybody we went in in. the last four years and I've heard no. discussions about that happening yet but. like that needs to happen and I revet. who revet who we gave passports and. visas to or revet everybody that crossed. the border across the border especially. I think I think we're kind of doing that. isn't Tom Homan doing that 14 million. people. so we're not doing it um and what I was.

saying to an Intel agency just a week. ago I said we need to be running against. this threat like this needs to be fast. forward the the toughest thing we ever. did we need to basically take um almost. like it's a crisis right and you know. you take a bunch of people and you throw. them at the hurricane to help right we. need to pull in I don't care if it's. retired people we need to put 10,000. people revetting all these I'm serious. like we're at that point we let too many. people in this country that we don't. even know who's here like we're not.

picking up and deporting fast enough and. Trump says that himself like he. understands right the magnitude of when. you're talking 14 million but I don't. think people are understanding there's a. chunk in that that are the terrorists. and we have to go just as fast at the. terrorists as we're doing against. Venezuelan gangs like this is super. important I mean I know it seem I. mean it seems like Hing border patrol. ice all seem to be very busy to me so.

you don't but you don't think they're. moving fast enough I mean how how would. they move faster it's only been what. well they're moving fast enough right on. like Venezuelan gangs but who's doing. the vetting to identify the terrorists. right that's not Tom homan's job um. right he needs that from the. intelligence Community like you know. that FBI needs to be stepping up and. doing that DHS needs to be playing a. role right like we need to see. honestly probably some sort of task. force come together to do that you know.

yeah I got a question let's say the. secretary right uh of ice Homeland. Security they arrest this they they they. locate this one individual say he's. Afghan mhm and they suspect he's a. terrorist who did they corroborate that. information with they call the Taliban. and say hey do you know Mr. Abdullah that is here and if that person. is a one of those deep covered Taliban. operatives or ikp operatives do you.

think the Taliban will admit to it no. they'll say we have no record on him. yeah I think the thing that has to be. walked back to and this is the part that. really is contentious and I think we got. to we got to do something is that there. is such a difference between what the. government says the terror problem looks. like and what frankly members of the. global war on terror Community say it. looks like after having been on the. phone for 4 years with these individuals. but what I will tell you is like for. example and and my only thing that I. would just add to what they've said on.

the Intel front is you know I've I have. the opportunity to run the seams with. these different you know on Signal and. these different groups and and just. listen you know and that's what I try to. do I try to just listen I'm not an Intel. analist I'm not a targeter but I am. pretty good at relationships and just. listening and what I am hearing. consistently across multiple groups is a. thousand I'm hearing the number a. thousand a lot and it's and it's coming. up in I mean radically different uh uh. verticals that there's no there's no way.

you know and and so that really that. that really concerns me a lot that that. number um is is is popping up you know. all of the time you know. conversationally um and then the other. thing that really bothers me is that no. one is engaging any any elements at all. of the. resistance just on the Intel side. I mean when they've made clear and overt.

uh offerings to help with that and to. just to to give a competing perspective. zero and so that to corroborate what. Sarah's saying in that front at least. like there there is no competing threat. picture well let me ask you this I mean. we used to did we just lose all the. information I mean we used to have the. hide cameras you know that would that. would scan the retina and then there. would be why are you laughing well we. left the hide behind so Taliban has the. hide systems do do we still have access.

to that system at all we have the old. data of the system so we have we do have. something to bounce it off of. well some files were lost from it we. have some but we don't have the full set. I don't want to say what's missing cuz I. don't want the Taliban to know but we. don't have 100% but there are new. terrorist emerging shop I'm not saying. that I'm just saying do we have any. database to bounce when they pick. somebody up do we have any data to. bounce that off of but it's not complete.

even dated isn't. complete here's another problem that I. mean we have this terrorism problem the. ones that are already in the United. States and the ones that the. administration is arresting and. deporting right now we have that at the. same time no one is discussing the fact. that there are new ones coming to Europe. to America I mean sarudin hakani he. needs no introduction he's The Wanted. Terr is he's the man issuing passports. Afghan passports and travel documents 7.

million Afghan passports were printed in. Europe after 2021 and shipped to. Afghanistan 7 million 7 million with the. permission granted by the United States. state. department we have still giving there's. probably going to print a million more. passports this year more than a million. the permission to whether print or not. comes from the United States state. department. Department they're granting permissions. we all know where the passports go to S.

because Afghanistan cannot produce its. own uh passport booklets just like it. cannot produce its own currency this was. the the the father of suicide bombing in. Afghanistan yes killed over a thousand. American Service members in. Afghanistan you know still wanted by the. FBI and the state department in fact I. don't think the state department because. Ambassador Karen Decker was on recently. on a t on a. episode news cover Afghan news show AMU.

TV my friend Sam he asked her he said is. saraj aani still a terrorist is the. state department still looking for him. she says she cannot answer these. questions she refuses to call hakan a. want a. terrorist wow and the worst part is. right they're issuing these passports to. terrorists and that's not just words I. have seen algerians faces on Afghan. passports I've obviously seen Libyan. faces on Afghan. passports Syrian faces on Afghan. passports we're also not treating these.

passports as compromised which is insane. right um so they don't even act like the. Afghan passports compromised even though. any terrorists can travel to Afghanistan. and get their name changed in their face. put on one of these passports you you. when we were in Vienna and we. interviewed uh massud right you know one. of the things that that he said both on. and off. camera um was to really really pay.

attention to surrogates to really pay. attention to you said you know Al-Qaeda. and the Taliban have learned a lot they. are not going to allow themselves to be. at the Forefront and then he even said. Isis is more than happy to do that you. know he said this back in. June I've had con s has said the same. thing I mean very very well-placed. individuals um who are cautioning us. about this role of surrogates and that. what you see is not exactly what you get.

and this is these These Warnings are. coming from the same people who warned. us pre 911 you know and we ignored it. you know we ignored it and we look at. the Strategic surprise and and how our. world changed and I think that's what at. least for me that's that's where I'm. coming from I mean in you know honest to. God I don't I don't even maintain a. clearance anymore you know I don't I I. left the military in 2013 I retired and. was happy to do so had a good run and. you know pursuing other things but a.

whole bunch of veterans have been drawn. back into this thing and the stuff that. we're talking about is not even on the. high side security stuff like it's not. it is not even in it's Sarah said it's. not in the IC channels this is these are. these are conversations that are. happening in real time between veterans. and abandoned assets that for the best I. can tell this has not been Consolidated. with the intelligence community in a. meaningful way since the abandonment and.

so if we don't do that how in the world. are we going to actually have any kind. of a responsible threat picture on. what's coming our way and how can we say. with certainty that we do that's my. point you know because until that re. that Reckoning. happens you got literally two different. worlds here yeah and there's one other. piece a lot of people don't talk about. is the fact that the US government let's. say if it's a CIA the state department. doesn't really matter that official. relationship is with the Taliban right.

so if you're a volunteer and you're. talking to a former CIA source and he's. giving you valid information you're. trying to pass that to the US government. they want his identity to then give to. the Taliban right he ends up dead so. there isn't even a safe way for our. former sources to get information to the. US government due to the compromis. relationship with the Taliban particular. L with sadin. hakani let's say that um I don't I don't.

believe this but let's assume for a. second that the Taliban will be will. remain a proxy of the United States and. the United States will continue to work. with them well as the sole superpower of. the world shouldn't the United States. government have a plan B and plan C. collect from multiple sources you know. the resistance is that alternative and. knowing the leadership of multiple. resistance front I can tell you that. there is zero connections they're not.

communicating where are we with the. funding you're the one that broke 40. million a week then we brought on Sarah. that said 40 to 887 million a week right. but we actually did um like the third. week of January we did a really good. Deep dive into um the money coming in. that week and that week the third week. of January was $105 million. us wow that week so so I even think. saying 87's low at this point and that. doesn't count the money we also ship to.

Cutter cuz remember we also fund the. taliban's office in DOA and that's 10. million more a month so so even the. money we talk about that comes on the. airplane is not all of it and that's. another thing our government needs to be. honest about there are a lot of pockets. of money going to the Taliban wow where. I. mean we really started a conversation. here with the three of you guys about. that Tim bur out involved Eli crane got. involved uh Margie Taylor green was at. the last press conference from what I.

understand I talked to chim Tim sheii. the senator out of Montana he's aware of. it he was introducing it into the Senate. what's the Headway on this well first of. all thank you very much for taking that. initiative uh I'm telling you Sean. without you and your supporters who made. calls and and wrote letters to. Congress we would not have had this much. movement this would not have gotten. anywhere because you know initially they. denied sending money to the Taliban and.

they attacked us they said you were. lying and then this continued all the. way until uh secretary the former. Secretary of State Mr blinkin was. testifying and he finally admitted that. yes we gave a few million dollars to the. Taliban right and then um anyways the I. mean it's been everywhere I mean. everybody's aware of it oh at this point. there is no den in it there's no denying. it everyone admits even president Trump. said that yes the money does end up.

going to the Taliban and is going to the. Taliban I brought it up in his interview. yes you did and Elon Musk has now. repeated it too so I mean and that's all. came out of this show I have so much to. thank you for and officially on behalf. of the entire resistance on behalf of. President s Commander massud let me. thank you once again for taking that. cause it means a lot uh it's very. troubling that US taxpayer money goes to. the very individuals who killed not only.

Afghans but American soldiers as well. the bill is hr26 no tax dollars for. terrorist act Congressman Tim burett we. could not have done this without him. he's an amazing human being of uh he's. become a very good friend uh I have to. say this as well his entire office have. been professional and very helpful. whether it's be his district office in. Knoxville or DC office John Kelsey uh. puit everyone was super helpful in this.

legislation it is waiting for um the. speaker of the house to put it on the. house floor so member of members of. Congress could vote on it for some. reason uh it's being delayed and I don't. know why no one knows why the bill is. ready it's a great bill it covers not. only the fact that the money is going to. the Taliban but I I'll add another thing. do you remember when secretary blinkin. was testifying and Congressman Tim.

burchard asked him uh you're giving. money to the Taliban he said oh no we're. giving we're not giving money to the. Taliban we're giving money to the NOS. well he wasn't lying but at the same. time he wasn't being truthful he did not. say that those NOS are all Taliban. fronts that they give Aid they. distribute and that's a whole different. story Congressman Tim burch's bill this. new bill that he has introduced no tax. dollars for terrorist act it includes. the NOS it includes the Afghan fund that.

is being managed by Afghan Americans who. are pro Taliban and Taliban supporters. and it covers the 40 million we need. this bill to pass all uh speaker Johnson. has to do is call for uh put it up for a. vote on the house floor so members could. vote on it that's well I mean I I did uh. I talked to him a couple of weeks ago. and he said that. that the the holdup seemed to be and. that Mike Johnson was on board with this.

is that they didn't want to attach. anything else to the bill so that to. give somebody a reason to vote against. it cuz CU Tim said I I we have to get. this bill in as a single bill without. all the other stuff attached to it so. that so that he nor anybody who's. against this has to vote against the. bill then rewrite it up and bring it out. again and he had told me. that Mike Johnson seemed to be on board. with that and that that that was maybe.

kind of the holdup is that they they. need to introduce it as a single bill so. that everybody can vote against it and. they can hold people accountable that. don't vote against it and get it out. there without giving them the excuse of. oh well this other thing that was. attached to the bill we're not for that. so we had to vote against it otherwise. this other thing would have happened all. I know is the bill is ready it's a very. good bill and Senator Tim sheii uh also. introduced a carbon copy of this bill at.

the Senate so both bills are ready it's. just waiting for uh Senator John Thun. and Speaker of the House Mike Johnson to. put it up for a. vote and I hope they. do is that the that's the latest that's. the latest that's the latest but a lot. of members of Congress supported it. Congressman Eli crane was very helpful I. uh was in DC with him not too long ago. he was very helpful chairwoman margerie.

Taylor green was very helpful Anna. Paulina Luna was helpful and a few. others but um once again I want to thank. you and Congressman Tim bures for this. initiative bring it for a. vote hashtag it yeah hashtag it let's. take a quick break when we get back. let's talk about you know what. communities can do it's obviously it's. at the top level we've done in my.

opinion we've done everything we can do. to get it at the top level it is all the. way to the top it's in every agency it's. in EV it's everywhere everybody's aware. and so it's kind of you know it it's out. of our hands you know we've done. everything we can do unless unless you. guys have something that I'm not. thinking of I mean there's there's. members of the administration that have. reached out wanting our perspective and. I mean I find that encouraging and I. think there'll be an opportunity to do. that and then we'll see what happens.

yeah but really you know at least the. last month or two my main focus has been. helping communities right that's why. we're here also briefing your community. because it's it's more than a duty to a. warn right we want to get Americans. prepared if if nothing comes down from. the federal government we don't care as. long as you are aware and you know and. you're preparing your community that's. what we need to be doing right now it's. like a duty to warn up and a duty to. prepare down yep mhm mhm so we're on the. prepare piece yeah all right let's take. a quick.

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questions all right we're back from the. break we were just talking about the. funding is it stopping where's it at. what what are they Us in this funding. for um a lot of things but let me first. tell you how the Taliban profit from. this money feel let. me the money basically goes from the US. um cash for $4 million a week to. solmania and Iraq cash is loaded on. Charter planes and it arrives at kabell.

International Airport which is under the. control of sadin akani from there a. convoy arranged by hakani takes the $40. million takes it to the Afghanistan. International Bank which is not a. Taliban bank it's just a normal bank but. they don't have the authorization to. convert the US dollars to afghanis so. what aib Afghanistan International Bank. does is they give the money to the. Taliban controlled Central Bank of. Afghanistan which is like our federal.

reserve the Central Bank of Afghanistan. is currently managed and run by um. nmad a sanctioned terrorists who was. sanctioned by the United States for. financing bomb attacks against American. soldiers which killed many American. soldiers he's still sanctioned and he. gets $40 million at this point he has. Monopoly over Afghanistan's um the the. the the money market rates mhm and so.

during the conversion he invites members. uh that are companies that are. affiliated with the akani network and. Senior leadership of the Taliban uh. money exchangers and they come and they. all bid on who wants to buy each dollar. and for how much and so the winners. every week are individuals associated. with the hakani network and because they. control the money market they basically. take a cut right there and then the. afghanis are given back to the.

Afghanistan International Bank which. then deposits the money into the bank. accounts of these NOS now there are. about. 2,500 or so Afghan Nos and about 300. international NOS including American NOS. now these Afghan ones every last one of. them their licenses and permits to. operate were giving to them by the. Taliban and I've said this to you. previously if you go and you open an NGO. in Afghanistan the Taliban will not give.

you a license because you're anti. Taliban so all of those NOS are pro. Taliban they're sympathetic towards the. Taliban and they get their. licenses now at this point these NOS. they have to. order goods and services right so what. they do is they um let's say 50% of the. material that they need comes from. abroad and 50% they purchase from Afghan. rice wheat flour oil medicine mhm they. can only purchase from a pre approved uh.

a a list of vendors that are giv to. these NOS by the Taliban so the NOS. cannot buy from uh mola Shan Ryan's. Afghan store they can only buy from that. particular store that is operated by the. Taliban now the other uh rest of the. materials that they need usually comes. from kazakistan usbekistan and to buy. but you cannot buy those in afghanis you. can only buy those in dollars so these.

noos they reconvert the money through. the Afghan through the Central Bank of. Afghanistan and during the second. conversion the Taliban take another cut. then the money is deposit it to move to. UAE to. Dubai the bank that moves this money is. called aizi bank it's not even a bank. it's a Ponzi scheme it's a bank that is. managed by the. Taliban money arrives in Dubai and then. these NOS order bulk like uh several.

tons of rice and wheat and Medicine. medical equipment and they transfer. those materials in bulk to kabell. International Airport the company that. brings these for these NOS is Habib. group Habib group is owned partially by. the brother of the current foreign. minister of. Taliban and so he takes a cut he charges. uh for his Services the moment these uh. these uh this this material the aid.

lands at Kabal International Airport the. chaban the Taliban charge customs and. taxes and. fees right so that's where they take. another cut and then the aid arrives at. the offices of the NGS which then they. distribute now who did they distribute. the. A2 to a list of hungry and poor Afghans. provided to the NGS by the Taliban so. the list will have five poor and hungry. Afghans and then it will have 95 Taliban.

fighters families of suicide bombers. receive Aid this is all from us tax. dollars I'm just curious is this is this. coming through US Aid yes yes so is it a. matter I mean we've seen doge is pretty. much dismantling usaid okay and they're. uncovering all these things you know. spreading the LBG LBGTQ agenda the. Sesame Street stuff I mean it's just.

ridiculous thing ridiculous thing. probably some type of a front or code. name or whatever you want to call it but. I mean is it is it just a matter of time. before they reach this before Doge. reaches this you will see a lot of stuff. coming out about this and related to. Afghanistan and USA ID Sean see in baman. Province uh which does not have a lot of. Taliban support historically usaid would. go and distribute the aid you will see.

the logo of USA ID all over and Mr s. exposed this his intelligence exposed. this uh so these NOS affiliated with USA. ID they would distribute the aid to the. people there alongside the leader of the. Taliban one of the commanders for the Lo. for Boman Province and they would. distribute the aid not uh in the name of. the generosity of the American people or. in the name of Joe Biden they would. distribute the aid in honor of Mah habah.

and the talban in pineer they're still. doing that and pineer province which as. you know has zero Taliban they are pro. resistance they're sympathetic towards. the resistance what the Taliban does is. they go with this NGO called ansar which. operates in paner Province and andov. Province andov Valley they will go to. this house and you there's a lineup of. Afghans and um. widows and they have envelopes with $200.

cash per family per poor family and they. will tell them hey Mr. paneri during the days of the Republic. did those Infidel republics that were. puppets of America did they ever come. and give you Aid you know unlike them. see the leader of the Taliban loves you. so much he's giving you Aid he's sending. you. money the US Aid us cash in Afghanistan. is distributed in honor of mullah habah. not in the name of the generosity of the.

American people even us Aid packages. that go to. Afghanistan the US flag is missing from. it see in in Latin America and Africa. and El elsewhere around the world when. us a has distributed eight packages. there's always an American flag with a. message from the American people not in. Taliban control Afghanistan they do not. want people to know that this Aid comes. from the American people they say this. Aid comes from.

Mah well I think what I'm kind of. alluding to here is maybe if we get. Doge's attention then they focus on this. well not exactly because so even if you. dismantle usaid they move Key Programs. then to the state department and it's. managed and run by the state department. so unless the state department is told. to stop funding the Taliban that money. will not stop Doge will not stop that. money cuz now it's under the Secretary. of State Marco Rubio and again that's.

going to take congressional action doge. is not going to stop this money we're. talking about how they stop the other. stuff then the other stuff is more more. like small grants and. stuff I don't know if it's small well no. but I know but I like this is a. systematic deal set into place that. Congress has to demand and that's why. [ __ ] doing it Congress has to stop this. money okay period I mean you know maybe. they'll stop there's there's a few.

little projects usid has this hemp. project in Afghanistan stopping that'll. be great hopefully Doge finds that one. Etc but it's not going to curb this and. then you know then we have the. counterterrorism dollars which I'll. explain when he finishes the. humanitarian dollars because that's a. whole another pocket gotcha and they. were sending money USA ID was sending. money to Afghanistan to teach women that. mean I think they paid 60 million to. teach Afghan women farming the Taliban. don't even allow Afghan women to leave. their homes that was the Department of.

Defense that did the 60 million that. wasn't even USA ID under operation. Sentinel so you the department of fence. is also giv the Taliban money that. nobody discuss this but like he said. last year they said they gave 60 million. for women's education when women can't. go to school they gave 11 million for. the Taliban to register their broken. arms so we don't just just have a. problem with usid we don't just have a. problem with State Department we have a. problem with the money the Department of. Defense is giving it talian we have.

problem with money CIA is giving to the. Taliban and we have to be honest about. all these pockets of money because you. can't stop them if you don't discuss all. of them as we say Sean this particular. this has to be an act of Congress this. has to be no tax dollars for terrorist. act which I once again call on his. Excellency speaker Mike Johnson to put. it up for a vote let members vote on it. this needs to stop okay now when we take. it a step further like I told you some. of the humanitarian dollars goes to. these foreign Fighters but the.

counterterrorism dollars come in as us. cash and they go all over the place and. we've discussed it before but they go. into a number of these plots to include. the Homeland plot and then they do Shady. stuff like Legend said they bring it. through the ezy bank and there's a lot. of money laundering to support the plot. in the United States but the money also. goes to other plots against Americans. just not in the United States so some of. them go they have multiple Embassy plots. that we've talked about previously so. they'll take physical US dollars cash.

from Afghanistan bring it to Africa so. they're funding two plots right now with. US Dollars against US embassies in. Africa it's against um our US Embassy in. bico and Molly and then the biggest. concern right now is the um some. plotting against the US Embassy and our. personel in Mogadishu Somalia because. that's one of the next pushes of the. caliphate plan is push the US government. out of Somalia and Somalia fall to. al-shabab or Isis but it's really part.

of ala's caliphate plan just like Syria. was so we are actually funding with. these dollars we send um to fight Isis. plots against us in Africa of all places. besides here in the Homeland I mean it's. insane that we're. funding these incidents that are going. to kill Americans CU think of how that's. going to come back right we we have some. Americans die let's say Mogadishu we we. we have a bombing go off in Virginia and.

then when you track the money down the. money came from the US government but. think of how Americans are going to. handle. this and that's what the terrorists want. they want you to blame your. government and that's why Congress needs. to act immediately because they're. complicit every day they allow it. they're going to be complicit. Scott I want to go. into I want to go into communities what. can communities do but before right.

before we get there I know you and Sarah. have been working on this book The. Gathering storm to warn local. communities to kind of give them some. insight on what's coming and in in what. they can do you know at the local level. but it sounds like some of the other. stuff that you guys covered in that book. is dissecting some of the other acts of. terrorism that we've seen throughout the. globe. Mumbai the Russian. Mall October 7th what what are I mean.

when you dissected those with with your. counterparts I mean what are what are. some of the commonalities and some of. the things that you found well you know. it started when you and I were talking. about I think I don't you asked a. question about okay so what do. communities do and that you know we we. you and I went back in Forth on a little. bit but what it really opened up was a. really broad conversation that's still. ongoing where. individuals and communities I know they. started hitting you up they started. hitting me up they started hitting Sarah. up uh what do we do in our community how.

do we uh defend our synagogue or our. church or our place of worship is this. something we should be thinking about. and we talked about it and and just the. way I look at it is we're kind of I. believe we're at a crossroads right now. you know when we think about everything. that we talked about here today you you. look at you look at the threat picture. that the the government has on terrorism. you look at what the global war on. terror veterans are saying and it's. different and we're at a Crossroads and. you either believe at this point that. there is a viable threat against the.

Homeland that is complex local. distributed looks more like October 7. than it does 911 that is very likely in. the next year or two or you don't you. know and if you don't okay like godp. speed but if you do where we were okay. then perhaps in addition to the analysis. we should start until we do bring this. together with our government which we've. really got to have that that private. public relationship on an unprecedented. scale what could we you know what could. if it's a duty to warn up you know maybe.

it's a duty to prepare down and in and. how could we help that conversation so. we started looking at what if we just. self-published uh a book that really. just looked at not just the threat. analysis but scenarios that have. happened in the past of where we get hit. or other places get hit where they live. work and play and so we put together. this small book and you know borrowing. from Winston Churchill when he tried to.

warn of the Gathering storm in World War. II that's what we we named this project. the Gathering storm and we just looked. at and so from you know for my part in. it and a couple other contributors we. looked at case studies so a lot like how. US Army special ops command and others. do case studies and they'll they'll take. they'll migrate those practical Lessons. Learned into operators modern times. that's what we did and we just looked at. unclassified we looked at uh the DC. sniper we looked at the bedin school. Siege with the with the chin where they. they moved children over a thousand into.

a gymnasium and threw explosives up on. the basketball goals and held terrain. and held the Russian special opposite. Bay we looked at Mumbai which is a very. compelling version of what Sarah and. others have warned about in 2008 where. you know roughly 10 no it was 10 uh. terrorists locked down a city of 19 ion. doing complex attacks holding terrain. killing well over a hundred uh people.

and it was almost a foreshadowing of. what we think we could expect here in. the Homeland and we just we October 7. New Orleans so we looked at all these. and what we did was we started to pull. out a lot of the commonalities that. individuals and communities should be. thinking about and and and and I'll kind. of throw it back to you there and we can. you know we can go deeper on any of. those things that you want because there. were a lot of lessons learned I think. that are super helpful but one of the. things that we came out of it with Sean. that surprised me was one the relative. ease of finding people who were on the.

ground or who responded to those events. I mean even Mumbai October 7 just doing. peer-to-peer discussions on Lessons. Learned was super eye openening and I. think something that's available to law. enforcement emergency operation centers. across the country that's number one and. uh number two I think the thing that. surprised me was we came up with a lot. more questions than we did answers. and just like yesterday when we were. talking to the Sheriff's Department in. your county it's different in every.

County it's different in every. municipality because context is. everything but if these attacks are. going to be locally manifested then. that's where the conversations need to. start because that's going to be the. real resilience in that so we came away. with a lot of questions and where we. didn't have the answers we just put the. questions in there you know here's what. communi should be asking themselves and. hopefully more books will be written uh. that are you know technically specific. on those questions and we just keep it. going um so that's the project and uh. happy to jump into any parts about it.

cuz like I said between uh the Intel. contributors and The Operators that a. lot of good stuff came out of it a lot. of lessons what are some of. the top lessons without dissecting all. of it what are some of the top. lessons you know I I would say probably. at an individual level the first thing. is you know to to do own research um to. not let fear dominate but to question. things you know to question what we're. saying you know to look at a lot of.

these case studies to look at a lot of. the examples on your own um I think that. for you and your. family this is not just terrorism this. is any crisis but for certainly for. terrorism I think you should look at you. should look at the threat itself and. then you should look at scenarios that. have been similar to that and between. those two things you can derive a lot of. insights on kind of what you should be. doing. um you know a lot some of the. preparation things that came out of it. were thinking about how would these. scenarios unfold like look at your daily.

pattern of life you know what are the. local cafes that you go to where is your. local movie theater where's your daycare. where do your kids go to school um what. are the Gatherings that you typically go. to throughout the year do you go to a. lot of concerts do you go to ball games. and I think starting to just look at. those with intention and starting to ask. yourself hard questions about okay if I. looked at for example you know the Nova. Music Festival I look at the crocus City. Music Hall where ice is hit what are. things that I can derive from that that.

I could look at the places that I go to. in my is there actually a security plan. here um if not who should I be talking. to about this can we get the community. together to talk about this should I go. engage local law enforcement and call a. community meeting so I think my big. takeaway for individuals is look at the. scenarios that have already happened you. know because that takes the fear away I. think and really puts agency back in. ourselves to just look pragmatically at. things that have happened in the past. well you. know thank you guys for the briefing.

yesterday I mean we we went to my local. sheriff very receptive I was really. happy with how that went I want to do. everything I can to protect the. community sure that I live in and all. the kids and the people that live here. and and you know they seem very. receptive there was my County's police. or my my City's Police Department the. County Sheriff's Office uh neighboring. PDS and then we even had uh quite a. different federal agencies and state. agencies in there Department of higher.

education was in there and um and you. know I. think you. know back to you what are the questions. I mean that's I think that's how you. start the discussion is you come up at. least that's how we did it in Special. Operation you have to put. yourself in the terrorist mindset of how. would I how would they do this if I was. if I wanted to strike terrorist hit.

multiple. targets kill as many people as possible. how would I do it yeah and so what what. are some of the questions the. communities should be asking right so. here's a couple you know and again what. I found to be extremely useful was. bringing in you know just in in Special. Forces and I know you guys did this in. the teams as well so before you go down. range and this is both post and pre- 911. but before you go down range you would. usually go over and meet with you know.

the team or the platoon that just got. back you'd sit down with them you know. our engineer Sergeant would sit with the. engineer Sergeant I would sit with the. Detachment Commander the Intel guys. would sit together they would do you. know one-on-one debriefs of what they. saw and the incoming guys would take. that take notes and then we'd do kind of. a collective thing and it just was what. you did but I think you can migrate that. same thing you can bring in for example. uh d Kadar an Israeli Special Forces uh. NCO from the IDF is traveling around the. us right now talking to churches about.

his lessons learned from responding. October 7 he was at the Nova music music. festival he went into those. neighborhoods that were slaughtered and. so he can give you really really. insights into if you subscribe to the. notion that that could happen here and. is somewhat imminent then he can tell. you the things that he saw then you. derive questions such as how would we. handle in this County uh an incident. where groups of 8 to 10 well-trained. Terror operatives dawned first responder.

uniforms how would we handle that as a. community how would we communicate that. to a community how would First. Responders actually talk to themselves. on the fact that that was happening and. is there a way that they could overcome. that with a a different uniform or. something like I don't know the answer. but that is a legitimate question right. um another question that came up a lot. that I think is really powerful is how. would um how would our community to. respond if the terror attack happened in.

such a way that there was complete. paralysis across all First Responders if. you had systemic paralysis for in all of. my case study interviews you had. systemic paralysis for at least 24 to 48. hours where there was no real response. so how why was that well because they. were just overwhelmed you know in some. cases they were targeted and in October. 7 First Responders they ran right at. them and they took them out and so they. they were not and then you had. reinforcements coming there was so much.

confusion plus you had the terror groups. actually in first responder uniforms. right so it's just complete chaos and so. it to and then some areas were cut off. where they held terrain you know like in. Mumbai they held Terrain in bedin school. they put basketball goals with. explosives on them and the children in. the middle how are you going to assault. that so the these are the things that. just by looking at the scenarios it's. just you know what it. is it's so hard to look.

at in my assessment I mean I was sitting. across from this special forces soldier. who responded to October 7 and he could. barely form a coherent sentence he was. so upset and this is a guy that's been. operating for decades you know and he. couldn't even speak because of what he. had seen it's so hard to look at but. honestly I don't know how we we can. avoid that you know and but if we can. we can start to derive some really. really poignant questions and we put a. ton of them in the book but but those. are some of the ones that that came up.

yeah and some other really interesting. points is right we we know at least from. the training in Afghanistan what pieces. of it'll look like right so there's one. piece kind of also pull from Mumbai is. the the the idea of these like attackers. who fight to the death right cuz it's. not like in Israel you'll go and do an. attack you can grab like kidnap someone. and leave and go back into Gaza when. they come in United States they're here. to the attack and they're here to die. right there's no exit plan right so now.

we need to talk the law enforcement like. what's it like to fight someone who. wants to fight to the death and how do. we learn that okay we go into our. community we talk to people who fought. in radi in fuah bring them in have them. talk be be Consultants advisors tell us. what it was like to fight that enemy we. can do that another really big piece is. suicide bombers right that they plan to. do suicide bombings here but what do we. need to learn about suicide bombings cuz. we don't have suicide bombings in our. community even simple things what kind. of standoff should we just have from a.

metal detector we should start those. standoffs now right because then if the. bomber gets freaked out blows up you. save lives just by putting a standoff. going up to the metal detector so we. start understanding these things we can. put little things in place that do save. lives yeah I interviewed um several uh. intelligence analyst from the IDF and I. just asked him you know at the end I. said what would you say to American. analy law enforcement. and four separate ones that I. interviewed they all first of all they.

sat there for like an uncomfortable. period of time like you could tell they. were wanting to say something and then. fin they were just like [ __ ] it I'm G to. say it and what they said was. essentially we live this every day like. we live this in in our communities we're. always facing this imminent threat it's. something that we're you know we' kind. of come to terms with and we were. complet completely caught off guard like. we were not ready for this we were not. ready for what came our way um and they. come they came across you know got you.

they came across the border and then. they went. back they said to me you all have not. even allowed yourself to even think. about this they have been among you for. four years it is going to be 10x what. they did to us on October 7 to the man. and the woman they said. that and they all were separate. interviews wow and when Al-Qaeda planned. this remember the Hamas attacks they. were involved in planning they planned a. US Homeland attack to be 10 times the.

size of the Hamas attacks to them the. Hamas attacks was the dress rehearsal so. we have to remember the attack on us is. going to be a lot larger and again I. mean I hope I'm wrong I really do but. it's just all of the different points. it's it's the different points of. interviews that I've. conducted including with these case. studies and if you even just consider. the fact that um one one law enforcement. officer that I does a lot of tactical. training around the country um he. watches your show diligently and he.

contacted me and he said Scott I train. all over the country I train SWAT teams. you know Advanced tactics he said I'm. telling you right now we're not ready. for this in terms of response you know. primarily because the typical scenario. that we deal with are single shooters. yep one active we do not deal with teams. of 8 to 10 that are prepared to fight to. the death in Mumbai for example in 2008. there were. 35 candidates that tried out that were.

initially groomed for the the the role. 10 were selected nine of the 10 fought. to the death they knew that they were. not coming out right and so we've just. never faced anything with that and then. if you look at for example the crocus. City Music Hall or the crocus Music Hall. just recently where Isis hit in Russia. that was a complex attack where the they. had they had incendiary devices they. were they they they you know they they. set a they set the place Ablaze they. were extremely well armed with long guns.

and short guns grenades and they were. taking the time to cut throats as they. went you know and making sure that it. was covered and Amplified you know so. you're talking about extremely well-. trained individuals who are prepared to. die and uh who frankly know what they're. doing and we just we we don't think. about that we don't train that way and I. again I'm not saying that to create. Panic I'm saying that that that's just a. pragmatic responsibility that in this. day and age that we live in particularly.

considering our borders been open for. four years how could we assume that has. not happened I mean even if you didn't. have the jat veteran reporting that you. have you know knowing the Mandate that. groups like Isis and Al-Qaeda have. against our you know demise like why. would we not assume that that number of. people are here prepared to do that I. mean well I mean we've we've seen how. effective the training is I mean last. time Sarah was on she gave us a clip. we'll roll it again right now but I mean. in my 14 years of being over there I've.

I've never seen a combatant move like. that or shoot like that and um go ahead. yeah no and then another really. interesting thing when he brings up the. the the Isis Russia attack so they train. multiple teams for that attack and like. the first team essentially got thored in. and wrapped up so the Russians thought. they stopped the plot and then those. guys came in basically did that attack. which is very smart and we're not used. to those kind of tactics backup teams. for these plots like that's a new thing.

so we can even have people in the. government and we do have people like. you know they picked up like eight Isis. guys last year and think they thow to. the Homeland plot so the terrorists are. also doing things to make you think okay. you're ahead of the game you stopped. this and then they had a whole backup. team that went in and successfully did. that attack and I think you have to. think about U sorry leg I'll just say. this real quick just we have to assume I. think another thing is is strategic. surprise you know if you look at you. know if you just study these groups they. are very good not just tactical surprise.

but strategic surprise where they. surprise the nation they surprise the. larger body at scale and when that. happens what follows is a level of. institutional. paralysis everything's locked. everything's paralyzed you know and so. um you when that happens you've got. these groups that are capable of what my. buddy Dave at the agency calls not. terrorism but horrorism like they're. able to bring a level of just.

unmitigated horror at an in. interpersonal level and then they'll. even amplify it with body cams you know. so you're you're not it's strategic. surprise strategic paralysis hold ground. Mass casualties that kind of event we. just never dealt with that here you know. and and I think we're due I just do I. don't think that you're going to see um. one law enfor officer that I interviewed. told me he said I was in DC for the 9/11. attack I was he said I was like two.

blocks from the Pentagon right and he. said you know that attack happened. explosion f-16s flying supersonic just. above the Treetops and right over here. the McDonald's was still open people. still getting food you know but yet when. the DC sniper two dudes in the back of a. car for 3 weeks he was there for that. too the entire city was paralyzed in. lock down people on a knee getting a. getting gas you know kids not going. outside to play and he said that's the. difference you know that's the.

difference is when it's there's the. spectacular thing that's over there but. then there's where you live and you work. and you play and they have figured that. out if you look at their attacks over. the last what 10 years every time every. single time it's local complex attacks. right where we live work and. play not that while you guys were. talking and you mentioned the um video. of the Taliban fighters who are under. range showing their tactics showing off.

their. tactics a few things you should know. about them Sean they were trained most. of them were trained by the US Special. Operations Community while we were there. some were evacuated to to the United. States by the Biden Administration and. then they decided to go. back they decided to go back and join. the Taliban so some of those as you see. they're the rores M some of them they go. they get. debriefed they get briefed All Over.

Again by the Taliban by hakani and are. sent back to the United States so don't. think that that individual you see in. the range is only in Afghanistan no. they're going back and. forth there are Afghan Americans from. California from Tennessee from Florida. from New Jersey in New York that are. that have went back and joined the. Taliban that are serving with the. Taliban right now and these folks go.

back and. forth you know I you guys have I know. you briefed a couple Governors you. briefed local PDS Sheriff's offices I. don't know who else but you know one of. the things and I don't know if this came. out of this or not what you guys are. doing but it's like Florida seems to be. kind of leading the way with this with. they've set up the the what is it the. National Guard special missions unit. where they've where they've utilized a. lot of Special Operations veterans is.

kind of like a volunteer special unit uh. task force special missions unit task. force and so I'm hoping they do that. here are you guys getting any I mean. that just seems like a great way because. cuz even yesterday during the briefing. it was it was you know allocation. resources be like the primary concern. right and how are they going to I mean. and that's something that all these. communities need to be thinking about is.

you know I mean look police are already. underst staffed right cuz the last four. years uh the defund the police thing and. so you really you know PDS Sheriff's. offices even at the federal state levels. you know they need to be thinking about. allocation of resources and and how fast. those resources are going to be used up. and so yeah need to be thinking about. neighboring PDS neighboring Sheriff's. offices State assets Federal assets and.

how how we can help each other yeah you. know yeah you can even look at you know. so for example some of the things that. we looked at were like Western North. Carolina. hurricane um the chemical spill in uh. East Palestine Ohio like there no those. are not Terror events but what they were. were situations where a. crisis spended the capability of the. organic response force in minutes like. that you know you you couldn't they.

couldn't respond they could not they. were not effective and so what you saw. were individuals and communities that. were on their own and then you also saw. and this is what I call the jwat X. Factor right you saw these global war on. terror individuals responding you know. either from the local area or even. Trucking in and responding and it. started with Afghanistan collaps but. it's been happening the fires in West. Maui the Western North Carolina. Hurricanes so there's some there's kind. of some new stuff that's happening and I.

guess where I'm going with that Sean is. that I think we have to look at this. level of threat and it's kind of like I. said you either believe it's real or you. don't if you do then you have to give it. its credit and give the enemy a vote. that this is a this is this thing will. massively exceed our organic. capabilities within minutes and if. that's the case then I think we have to. have a paradigm shift in our private. public partnership the government and. the communities the government at all. levels and the communities have to work.

together on a scale we've never done. before and that we usually only do after. bang I'm saying and this is why I think. Sarah's sense of urgency is so. compelling there's just not a lot of. time I think we have to assume that the. four years of an open border eye off the. ball like there's there's such an. advance to us of where we are so a lot. of this is how do we plan together how. do we work together how do we look at. global war on terror veterans being a. part of this you talked about the. Florida piece uh and I don't think. you'll mind me saying this like you know.

um Sheriff Nako is uh in Pasco County is. really good at engaging local veterans. and and not just for their analytical. skills on the Intel side but also their. operational skills like Sarah said they. fought in Rat they fought in fuia they. know how to do a threat vulnerability. assessment of schools so I just think. it's kind of all hands on deck man. honestly and and but the asset that we. have that we are not properly. utilizing our communities our.

communities have a lot of potential the. the top- down government has got to. figure that out they've got to include. them in the discussion and I think it's. the best last chance we have I. mean Gat veterans are I mean you've. already covered this several times just. in this specific shell but very open to. to help they want to help and so. yesterday in the briefing he had brought. up expect blockades expect not to be.

able to. reach the venues and so you know and I. had brought up hey like you know I. understand you guys you know you don't. have all the resources that you need but. you can utilize the local community I. mean I brought it up you know when I was. in the SE teams in 2004 we 16 guys you. know 16 guys went into Athens and we we. developed five routes into every Olympic.

venue in Athens outside of Athens how we. would get there and and not only that I. mean guys that have done the job you. know I mean how many times were you in. feeling a Target it was blocked and then. you had to deviate find another route in. I mean we're really good at this type of. stuff and so even if you can't allegate. your officers to develop that plan you. can reach out to the community have your. community find find the qualified people.

within the community they're out there. there's a ton of them here you know to. develop just the routes just the routes. and I mean and I know you're saying like. we don't have time we don't have time. it's going to take time you know and you. have to start somewhere so I don't want. to I don't want. to I don't want to seem I don't want it. seem like it's an impossible task I mean. I think the important thing is just. start I think start utilizing the. community develop the routes you had.

talked about the communication piece and. that it would be very likely there would. be no CS you know well immediately I. brought up hey you can get coms order. some mini starlinks and at least at. least you have communication from on. site where the attack happened to. headquarters to the Sheriff's Department. to the PD to whatever you know and. that's right there you have open coms. and and this is why we did the Gathering. storm book The Way We did is because. like exactly what you're doing is the.

way we present it so we like pose these. questions and like how can your. community come together and start. addressing these I mean look at how you. arrived at that solution based on. tactical experience where in Athens but. that's all over the country I mean look. again look at what the jat guys and. girls did in the response to Western. North Carolina I was just up there. interviewing a lady named pastor and she. ministers to two congregations way up in. the mountains where my family's from and. we went up there and we're going around. and I asked her I said what was support.

like in the first two weeks of the of. and it was devastating she said had it. not been for the veterans we wouldn't. even have had food resupply m in the. first two weeks it was the only people. we saw from the outside were veterans. and somehow they got to us you know and. my point is that is going to happen no. matter what these gwat veterans they. have spent 20 years of their life doing. this kind of work in a distributed. connected kind of way and they're going.

to do it no matter what if there's. institutional paralysis if there's a gap. they're going to fill it so why not on. your table exercises at a community. level in the. EOC invite them in huddle around the. table and make it a true private public. conversation around a community problem. you know and I I just think that nothing. but goodness is going to come out of. that like what what you facilitated. yesterday in my assessment is exactly. the model of what we need well it gets.

it gets people thinking and so I want to. go I kind of just want to go over. everything that we talked about there. yesterday like like not only re not only. allocation of actual Personnel but but. resources medical supplies I mean Sarah. and Boon just did a big event at a local. church here where. sounds like not even just local churches. in within this County were here but all. throughout the state came to listen to.

them speak and so a lot there are a lot. of people that are taking this seriously. that and they just you know they might. not know the questions to ask I mean you. go to a church down here everybody's. packing heat I mean everybody's armed. everybody's packing heat but you know do. they do they understand basic medical. skills even just even just slapping a. tourniquet on you know and so maybe. PDS I I don't know who would fund it I.

don't know who would fund it but instead. of I mean EMS is probably going to be. have even a a a tougher time doing. getting there to triage and treat. victims yeah and casualties and so that. means you won't be able to remember they. have to wait till the scene yeah is. clear of a threat so even after even. after though there's going to be traffic. traffic jams roads are going to be. blocked even even if they didn't block. the attack they're going to you know. there's going to be traffic jams where. you can't move because everybody's going.

to be in paralysis and so so if even if. it's just hey let's get a 100. tourniquets and stash them in different. churches let's get 100 you know or or. chest SEALS or yep bandages all that. kind of stuff because even if EMS. doesn't arrive guess what there's going. to be medical professionals there that. are survivors that will be able to treat. and if if if that communication can even. just come out you know cuz it's it's.

it's not 100% the coms are going to be. shut down but if if the if the if the. department you know if they get a call. and they say hey by the way there's an. entire medical cache of supplies. stashed where in the janitor closet at a. mall or or or maybe you make it just. open just like they do with aeds and. that type of equipment hey here's the. medical.

supplies we can't get there roads are. blocked you. guys we set up for this and and yeah it. absolutely and it's not that hard to do. because you can actually have these. conversations uh and and I've sat in and. participated in quite a few of them and. what I you don't see people in there. panicking or ringing their hands you see. empowered m neighbors just having a. pragmatic conversation about a Potential. Threat but guess what the worst thing. that's going to happen probably if you. go through that exercise is a you're.

going to be connected more to your. neighbor and and B you're probably going. to be ready for other contingencies that. might happen and I'll give you case in. point I was interviewing some EOC. Representatives who responded to a flood. in Ohio they never saw it coming it. crested over its banks more than it had. ever flooded little bitty town like. 20,000 people and the one of the EOC the. emergency offic ation Center members was. telling me that they it was flooding so. bad that they brought in uh firefighters. from all over the surrounding counties. right to come help well they were doing.

boat rescue so they all brought their. boats but none of their radios. communicated to each other so they had. to put one fire department guy from the. town in each boat so that they had a. radio that worked and it took them a. long time to figure that out but that. was the solution they came up the point. was had you just done an exercise ahead. of time where you brought those folks. together you would already sorted that. out right and those are the kinds of. things that when you add to the. paralysis just the horrorism that could.

be brought by this trying to solve a. problem like that could take you days. because of the trauma and just the you. know the inability to function and move. so I just think that the more that a lot. of it is the communities coming together. again private public it's got to be. private sector too it's got to be those. gwatt veterans it's got to be members of. the community that normally maybe. wouldn't be in there and finding ways to. talk left of bang that's the critical. part because right of bang everybody's.

going to be well well intended and. coming together but zero capability you. build trust when risk is low you. leverage it when the stakes are High I. mean and then in even just training and. I'm not talking about high tactics. clearing rooms that kind of stuff I mean. if you're a community. leader if you're if you're a minister if. you're a pastor if you're a teach. teacher if you're a principal if you're. a manager of a Publix a grocery store. you know I. mean a little bit of Medical Training.

can go a. very very long way and there's always. people that are interested in doing this. I mean especially churches here very. involved in this stuff I mean I mean. Covenant shooting not too long ago just. happened there was another one in. Antioch just happened couple months ago. you know and and um and people are tuned. in right now and so use that yeah get. your people trained up you know at least.

it it it's it's that that can mean life. or death for for for a for a whole. number of people there's there's. actually an amazing case study if you. actually look at the Las Vegas shooting. where we lost you know of course. hundreds of lives they say 70% of the. people who survived survived because the. people in their vicinity had first aid. training and a lot of it was former. military members but those citizens. stepped up and did the initial triage.

and the initial Aid and it saved. 70% of those people I mean that's a huge. number and that alone should just get. communities involved hey if we know how. to do this look at the amount of number. of lives you save and again to that just. a couple other Lessons Learned From that. same event right a concert the Route 19. Harvest Festival or Route 91 Harvest. Festival tens of thousands of people. single shooter from The Mandalay Hotel. right I forget however many weapons he.

had it was more than 10 with bump stocks. but while he was doing that it took. police over an hour to get into his room. and he was already dead an hour single. shooter so again if you just look at the. level of paralysis that happens from. that you know I mean you you add to that. 7 to8 10 well trained operatives like. you saw in that video right who then hit. multiple nodes at one time and who have. a a pre-existing mandate to hold terrain.

with explosives and children out of. school but if you're not tablet topping. that you know if we're if we're not. laying that on a tabletop exercise and. and SWAT teams talking through that with. you know others and how what would we do. if there were two locations that were. locked down with hostages I mean you've. ex exceeded scoping capacity immediately. so you know how are you calling for what. does that look like so I just think that. and these are just you need a the other. thing that came out of this Sean we. talked about yesterday I believe every. emergency Operation Center County.

Sheriff should have a red cell they. should have a red cell that looks at. threat-based. scenario work because both exist and. start looking at that and unpacking. these different scenarios unpack October. 7 bring someone over from the IDF and. let them give you a lead ship. professional development on what. happened that day and then ask yourself. what should our red cell be looking at. and then re and then the last thing I'll. say on this uh state and local leaders.

we don't have to wait on the federal. government to authorize resources yes. you need it for reporting and things. like that for agents to look at but in. terms of resources and just training. allocation after I was on with you and. we talked about this there was a law. enforcement officer from the greater New. Orleans area who reached out uh and. petitioned his leadership for immediate. counterterror training it was denied. this was one month before the January. one.

attack you know just I want to expound. on the Red Cell stuff cuz I think a lot. of people don't understand what Red Cell. red cell is basically penetration. testing for whatever could be venues. events whatever and so you're you're. basically penetration testing finding. weaknesses within that venue and and. even that you know we brought up hey you. don't have to send you don't have to. allocate a bunch of on Duty Officers to. do penetration testing to different.

venues you could have off duty guys do. it you could have you know deputi. whoever just hey I just want to let you. know my guy locked in had a gun had a. knife had this had that nobody checked. me I'm an off-duty cop I'm allowed to. carry anywhere you know and I just want. you to you know hold the venues. accountable hold hold stuff like that. like you were just talking about the the. basketball game at Chapel Hill and um.

you know I'd like to kind of wrap this. up here but I think you know another. thing maybe. maybe maybe the most important thing is. open the discussion within the community. and when I say that it doesn't mean you. have to have a podcast and scare the. living [ __ ] out of everybody like. this is going to scare a lot of people. you know it's also going to create a lot. of discussion and I'm not trying to say. hey cause Mass hysteria but open the.

discussion in your communities and even. if it's just hey we're aware of the. potential terrorism threat and we're. working on ways to to mitigate that and. to minimize it as much as possible you. don't have to talk about what you're. doing you don't have to be uh extremely. descriptive of what may come like what. we just did but it opens the discussion. it gets out on different different. channels gets out on the media gets out.

on social and one thing that we can I. think we can all agree on is these guys. they look for soft targets and so if you. harden your community then guess what. they see that because these guys always. surveil before they hit they always do. surveillance before they hit that's. surveillance on the internet that's. surveillance in person of venues of. people and so if you if you create that. discussion however you do it it it it it.

gives the appearance. that let's not hit this community. they're getting their [ __ ] together it's. a discussion they're preparing for it it. pushes it over to the next County pushes. it over to the next state all the states. do it maybe we stay in Europe I don't. know but you know my concern my biggest. concern is obviously my community and I. think everybody listening that's their. biggest concern too and so open the.

discussion get your get your get your. citizens aware of it and it also it also. you know gives off the appearance not. just the appearance that you're actually. doing something to combat this and you. become a harder Target they want to easy. targets yeah yeah and there's there's. precedents for this so remember the. Pulse Nightclub shooter him and his wife. did their surveillance on um you know. Disney Springs the downtown Disney area. they chose it as the target when he went. to do the attack right he had the gun in.

his stroller and then there was too much. Disney security that day he got back in. the car drove around thought of another. venue and then picked pulse later on. right horrible thing happened but Disney. having their security and upping their. prosure from the time he surveilled and. said I'm going to do it to going back. and having more security he said okay. this isn't worth it for me I'm not going. to be able to do what I want to do right. that is a case study of how it happens. now we all Harden right we make all. these targets more difficult we we we.

keep thoring them in that way and. remember when people have to change the. venue of their target it might not be. the same day like he did they might have. to do a week later that gives law. enforcement one more week to maybe. identify him and th him right cuz we. want to th this plot we want to stop it. from happening buying time and making. the terorists have to hide out longer. spend more money that helps us get them. faster but if you're waiting for. something from the top down I don't. think thwarting is an option I think. thwarting just like throughout our.

history it's it is usually Community. solutions that deal with a crisis and. and certainly you know getting left of. bang I think it's got to start at a. Grassroots level and we're capable of it. I mean it's already happening I think. now it's just a matter of kind of you. know sharing you know the just kind of. sharing the news on it and and one other. thing that we're doing that seems to be. working pretty well is we're putting. people in the task force pineapple. signal room um on Signal that started. with the Afghanistan withdrawal but now. you know you got Sheriff deputies from.

Williamson County and Pasco County and. EOC responders from Chicago and they're. networked on this this Signal app and. they can talk and get to know each other. now we can put we can broadcast training. opportunities that are out there things. that are coming out it's it's pretty. cool and and again a lot of it started. from these global war on terror. that just they know how to stay. connected and they move fast mhm you. know I think bottom line is these guys. want to succeed they want to succeed and.

so if you harden your community Harden. your school Harden your church Harden. your household I mean I know I have a. whole team of security Now I know you. guys do too and you know when you do. that it's yeah let's go somewhere. where're guaranteed success that's how. they think that's how that's just how. they think and so harden up the. community harden up the churches harden. up the schools harden up the venues.

harden up your households you know and. and and set that tone so that they see. that and they will very likely move on. and model what right looks like that's. doing the right thing I think that. models what right looks like to the. federal government and to and to. decision makers at the higher levels. right I mean we have a history of doing. that in this country um so and this is. no different MH can I say something. Sean this was an amazing conversation by. the way I was listening but um you know.

in. 2025 Americans should not have to live. in fear of IDs and suicide bombings in. America and this is unfortunate but it. doesn't have to happen if everyone does. their part I mean you guys are talking. about how to protect these communities. here all the right things but everyone. else need to do their part as well and. what I mean by that is there's no kind. of hiding it anymore these guys are.

claiming to do this in the name of. Islam I'm a Muslim and I know for a fact. that their actions has nothing to do. with Islam these guys have hijacked. Islam and Islamic symbols as I said. earlier why is Saudi Arabia UAE qter. Oman Egypt these Muslim majority. countries why are they not taking the. lead and stopping these guys there I. mean we're doing everything we can to. try to stop it here but these guys are.

killing Christians in the name of Islam. they're killing Jews in the name of. Islam you know Saudi Arabia uh the Crown. Prince there Muhammad bin Salman he has. this project this Vision Vision. 2030 uh basically he's trying to show. this moderate face of Islam and to show. that what these IND individuals these. groups are doing has nothing to do with. Islam but at the same time he's not. taking any action and I hope he does. against cutter when they give offices to.

Hamas to Taliban UAE you know claims UAE. opened a opened up a church in Dubai and. they claimed they're so moderates and I. I I know I know the people in UAE are. but at the same time you know just. opening up one Church doesn't mean that. everything is good and and and and. everything is fine MH UAE leadership is. meeting with the leader of the hakani. network you know this hypocrisy is being. noticed and they're not these leaders.

are not going to get away with it unless. they take action now again all of these. terrorist networks are doing this in the. name of Islam so if it is not and I'm. saying it's not I'm speaking out against. it these leaders and I'm not a leader of. a Muslim country you know I'm an. American Muslim those individuals are. they need to and I hope Crown Prince. Muhammad Salman takes action against all. of his little neighbors you know and the. other thing we have to be honest about. we're asking communities prepare. yourself protect yourselves but if we.

went after the senior leaders of these. plots where they're living in. Afghanistan where they're training these. fighters in Afghanistan and dealing with. it there it wouldn't be here right so. the fact that we're not striking in. Afghanistan right now is a problem the. fact that we are acting like the. terrorism fight is is only in Syria only. in Somalia is a lie it is in Afghanistan. and we need to be striking these senior. leaders who are plogging against us now. that's how you th the plot and one other.

thing the in America don't come and tell. us the Muslims here that no these are. good on don't tell us that when we come. and tell you these are terrorists who. are Killing In The Name of Islam but. they have nothing to do with us don't. tell us this is our culture don't tell. us the Taliban are part of us and that's. our culture treating women like cattle. as part of our culture it's not that one. thing I'd like to just close with is you.

know you see what what went on today. with this discussion and what we did. yesterday and most of the people that. are taking this discussion on are. veterans or intelligence alumni who. served in the global war and Terror. 20-year War right and you know a lot of. them I know a lot of them we lost a lot. of friends over there but it was less. than what 1% of the American population. that fought that war deployed multiple. times lots of wounded lots of killed and. then even those of us that didn't you. know necessarily sustain wounds or.

whatever you you know you gave up a lot. to fight that war and to do what our. country asked us to do most of us came. back from the war and made a concerted. effort to put the war behind us and move. on you know and then it was just a few. years later that we were sucked back in. because our buddy who was a Commando was. being targeted or as the country fell. like the people we cared about many of. us are alive because of some of these. guys and girls like we stepped in when. the government didn't but one of the. things I just want to leave with is I.

get a sense sometimes that like the. people the veterans that are talking. about this actually even want to be. doing this I mean that there is a. there's a way that we were brought into. this that I think most people even. supporters don't understand you know you. had Ben Owen on your show right and H. Jess and they helped a young girl named. arizo get to the United States one among. many she's the daughter of a Commando. who' been a Commando from the very. beginning right and so they made a.

decision Ben and Jess have expended. their kids college funds like so many. other folks to help but like this is. what. um Jess heard that made her decide to do. this action and and what I just want to. I just want people to understand this is. what was impacting veterans on from 202. and what they've been listening to and. watching for the last 4 years after all. that they did in combat after all that. we've asked of them this is what they're. inundated with even now every.

[Music]. day that's aro's Mom that's her dad is. being tortured out in the Alle. and um put our veterans through that for. four straight years that they do they.

did what we asked them to do they they. they answered the call and um you know. it's time man it's time that we bring. the government and the veteran. population together on this and that we. reconcile this and we get this into the. hands of the government the way it's. supposed to be and it gets handled but. it it's not right now and we've got a. this is hurting a lot of people it is. hurting a lot of veterans they they. don't know how to hang up the phone they. don't know how to stop doing this and. they won't and it's killing them you. know it's killing them and it's not a.

fair thing to put at their feet they've. done enough we need to find a way bring. the Two Worlds together and let's let's. fix it but but right now you're the. you're the only voice that's even. putting it out there um and that's got. to. change legendary we going to close with. the thing what do you got yes so this uh. thank you this is part of a letter. written by an Afghan Commando a general. his name is khed Amiri he is leading the.

resistance in Afghanistan right now. since. 2021 I'll read part of his letter it. says the strength of any military force. relies on six principles leadership. discipline institution Building. Technology and weaponry strategy and. support systems Taliban factions and. militias are not only unfamiliar with. these principles but the equipment and. weapon left behind by Afghan armed.

forces are inadequate to meet the. group's long-term needs at best the. Taliban remain an Insurgent group. lacking the capacity for institution. building and governance the armed. struggle of Afghanistan's Freedom. Fighters over the past three years and. the significant casualties they have. inflicted on Taliban militias. demonstrate the group's. vulnerability in Military and. intelligence terms a powerful and united. anti-taliban front could bring the.

Taliban to their knees Taliban leaders. and militias are unfamiliar with that. diverse languages and cultures of Afghan. society and will never gain National or. popular legitimacy the people of. Afghanistan both in cities and rural. areas view them as occupiers the. populace is fed up with the repressive. anti-woman and anti-freedom Rule of the. Taliban and it will not be long before. our people's Uprising will drive them.

out of our land this is written by. General khalad Amiri and he is as I said. leading the resistance against the. Taliban this is not he's in the fight he. tells you that the Taliban are very much. defeatable president SI says the Taliban. are very much defeatable. I hope somebody in the administration in. the new Administration listens to this. letter that I just read and takes action. this is something that we can't solve we.

it will be a tragedy a very sad tragedy. if the guys that we trained in. Afghanistan to fight. terrorists we end up fighting those guys. here in America. mhm well Legend Sarah Scott I really. appreciate you guys coming and um what I. appreciate more is uh what happened. yesterday where you guys briefed up my. community and and um I just want to say.

thank you for that and in. closing for everybody that's planning at. home you know Community leaders sheriffs. chief of. police anybody you know I remember Eric. Prince said this on my show. professionals think about logistics. amate think about tactics you have to. think about logistics first so with that. being said thank you again for coming. and uh see you.

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