
Is This The End For Ilhan Omar?
Elon Omar. >> Lot of discussion about this lady. Federal agents raid Elon Omar's DC home. amid immigration fraud investigation. It's hard to parse out exactly what it. is that she's in trouble for because it. feels like she could be in trouble for. one of [laughter]. a million different things. >> I think it's safe to say there's. something wrong with the system. Yeah. >> In Minnesota. And her, to be fair, in. her own campaign speeches she would. give, she would say, "My job is to. represent Somalia.".
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always, we are narrowing on in to the. midterm elections and a lot of things. going on. And I think we were most. interested at the beginning of the week. in a story that has sort of been. suspended in national discussion for. quite some time uh that had a. development on Monday and that was of. Elon Omar. >> Lot of discussion about this lady for. quite a period of time. Of course, she. represents the part of Minneapolis uh.
that likes to commit fraud on the rest. of the country. um and also shoot up the good people. [laughter] of Minnesota. And she has uh. been subject to I think a fair amount of. critiques over the last couple of years. and that she has. >> seemingly been more representative of. Moadishu than Minneapolis in many many. ways. And so. >> and her to be fair in her own campaign.
speeches she would give she would say my. job is to represent Somalia. >> Yeah, she would. And she I mean. [laughter] when you say that she said it. in her native tongue no less. But she. also was sort of tangentially involved. with a bunch of the allocation of money. that was ultimately used for fraud as we. know had some relationships there. There. were discussions about her brother, about her own citizenship.
There was uh. >> her own net worth, >> her own net worth, her husband. The the. just the amount of her remember her. public disclosure about her finances. that was then retracted and revised. >> Some might say we're learing a lot about. Ilan. >> Some might say that. Some might say. that. So, there was an interesting uh. development on Monday and Fox News. reported federal agents raid Elon Omar's. DC home amid immigration fraud. investigation. Now, this is sort of.
interesting and we're going to break it. down for you here because it's hard to. parse out exactly what it is that she's. in trouble for because it feels like she. could be in trouble for one of. [laughter]. >> a million different things. I mean, what. a wonderful situation because it it can. get frustrating where it's like [snorts]. for years there's been discussion of did. she marry her brother? Was she like. legally allowed to enter this country? Did she enter this country under false. premises? Was her father a warlord who.
lied because he had to escape a country. after committing a genocide? >> Smug. It's like we're all holding a. bingo card and we're just trying to see. who's going to go home with the prize. [laughter]. >> Dude, that's it. B4. >> That's it. >> Immigration fraud. [laughter]. >> Totally. All right. So, multiple federal. agents with HSI jackets were seen. outside of Omar's residence in. Washington DC in the early hours of. Monday. Two sources close to the. investigation say that the search stems.
from a criminal fraud investigation into. the Somali born congresswoman's. immigration paperwork. Now, that's. important. We'll get back to it in a. second. which was filled out by her late. father when she was a child. Uh, of. course, you have her response. Then I. saw also Walls piss pants and all uh. decided to say like, "Well, this is what. happens when Donald Trump targets his. political enemies." As if Donald Trump's. problems right now are Elon Omar. Like, they're not. That's not his political. enemy. This is they would never go.
through the extent of the federal agency. investigation or raid someone's home if. there wasn't some stuff to look at. there. Now, whether it's criminal, whether it's not, like we'll find out in. the course of the investigation and if. charges are brought or whatever, but. they've got enough. >> to take a look. Anyway, so uh the raid. of the Somali born congresswoman's home. started around 6:00 a.m. It with the HSI. and the Department of Homeland Security, also an interesting little component.
leading the operation. The Department of. Justice is also involved in. investigating. Um the DOJ added the. investigation was criminal in nature. So. it's not a civil issue that we're. dealing with. It's a this isn't a a. false report on some kind of an income. disclosure for the House of. Representatives or anything else. It's. it's this is criminal in nature. So, New. York Post actually put a finer point on. this and that they had basically three.
areas of interest in this particular. investigation. Omar claims that she received automatic. citizenship granted to minor age. children of naturalized parents. In this. case, her father Nur sayed. >> Okay. >> Interesting. >> Who fled the uh to the US in 1995 from. war torren Somalia. >> That was a key era. >> Yeah. >> Right after the blackown. >> Uh Omar and her father and siblings.
became citizens in 2000. If Omar was. actually older than 17 at the time, as. some believe, then her citizenship could. be revoked. So the whole argument goes. to show that um and let me let me just. get into that a little bit. >> In 2019, social media video argued that. Omar was 18 or 19, not 17 in 2000, >> okay? >> When she became naturalized, which would. have made her too old for naturalization. as a parental path,
>> okay, >> which would constitute fraud. Two days. after the video went viral, Omar's. official birth uh year on the Minnesota. Legislative Reference Libraries website. was revised. >> You're kidding. >> Oh, that's interesting. >> Was revised from 1981 to 1982 according. to accusations made by uh former. Minnesota congressional candidate AJ. Kern, [clears throat]. >> who pointed uh to archived versions of.
the site which revealed the change. Well, of course, if this all turns out. to be true, you know, she wouldn't be. the first woman who lied about her age. Okay, we know this. We know this about. women. >> Great. Take it. >> We do know this about women. All right. >> Oh my god. [laughter]. And the other thing. >> the other thing I would say. >> what you want out of the Ruthless. Variety program is just heavy misogyny. right off the top. >> Well, it's not just it's not just it's. not just misogyn.
[laughter]. uh little league baseball saw its share. of people lying about the age of. baseball players. You'll remember in the. early 2000s there was a guy from the. Dominican Republic who played for the. Bronx and was throwing like 80 something. miles an hour from the bump and. everybody's like, "Hey, he seems a. little bigger than everybody else. [laughter] Turns out he was 2 years too. old when they dug in." So there's some. history here of somebody trying to lie. about their. >> I think I think this is very easily. solved.
>> How about she produces a birth. certificate? >> Well, >> oh long form. >> There you go. >> Well, here a lot of these problems, you. just show up with a birth certificate. and they tend to go away, right? long. form. [laughter] Yeah. Well, there in. lies the problem because congressional. records today report that Omar was born. in October 1982, making her 17 at the. time of naturalization. Omar has never. produced a birth certificate claiming. all such paperwork went up in smoke. during the unrest in her native country.
>> Oh, okay. So the long former uh went. down with Blackhawks. >> in that period of time. >> We may never know. >> We may never know. So that is one area. of interest. >> You're saying recordeping isn't. something that is done um with great. accuracy in Somalia. >> Well, it turns out well I mean that at. least according to her thing is. >> my theory is she's just [ __ ] lying. Right. Right. And the the second area of.
interest is the one that I think is also. critical and I think this is one that. most people are not familiar with. >> Well, this is the one that I was the. least familiar with coming into this. story, which is her father allegedly. lied about who he was when he was. entering the United States. Yep. The. former top immigration official added, I'm continuing off the New York Post. here, added that if Omar's father lied. in any of the citizenship per paperwork, and Omar went along with it, she could. be strict stripped of her citizenship. If she misrepresented herself, uh, that.
would wipe out her from naturalization. The source added that in such a. scenario, her current marriage, her. fourth Jesus, man. Oh, man. Are you. kidding? >> Talk about that for a second. We'll get. to the brother in a minute, but like. four marriages, she's not very old. woman. How about mid-4s? >> No, she might be a few years older. [snorts] Freently. >> the [laughter] kind of the kind of g. kind of gal that would lie about her. age. >> Yeah, >> if you think about it, >> right, Ashbrook? >> The frequently betrayed. [laughter].
>> What do you think about that, ladies? Write a comment and tell me what. [laughter] you think about Ashbrook. saying you lie about your age. >> You know what they're going to say? He's. right. Nobody hates each other more THAN. WOMEN. >> OH MY GOD. [laughter]. >> DUDE, what happened to her? >> She's digging deeper. [laughter]. >> I Okay. >> Oh, I lost my place. Um, Nur say and who. is her father. >> is uh a document is documented as a.
Somali national army colonel. >> who is trained in the Soviet Union. Yes. and led a regiment in the 1977 and 1978. Ogaden war against Ethiopia according to. Somali language reports. >> Okay. I would say this is where the. parallels to little league baseball and. your average woman conclude. [laughter]. >> Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh his family lived a.
relatively privileged Mogadishu life. under dictator Siad Baret until the. regime collapsed and civil war erupted. in 1991. Weird. Again, go back, just. watch the movie, you can get a a good. upshot on what that was like. Um shortly. before Nuried's death, a former Somali. prime minister tweeted his respects and. identified him as a colonel. >> That's tough. That's so like they had. tried [laughter] to Here's the thing is. like he tried to escape his past war. crimes. He's like everyone just like.
shut the [ __ ] up. Let's keep this under. wraps about the war crimes and [ __ ] so I. can [laughter] get citizenship. I got a. daughter who's like 19 or whatever. We. got to we got to say she's she's she's a. child. Everyone just keep this under. wraps. And he dies and his boys back. home are like shout out to the colonel. goated war crimes. He was there for us. Wild. Do we actually know that about the. war crimes or is that an. >> We don't know anything but that's what. the subject of the investigation is at. some level and that the immigration.
lawyer told the Post that if her father. misrepresented a role in Bar's. government and Omar knowingly validated. that lie again. You're going to. jeopardize your citizenship. The lawyer. also said because Omar was born before. 1983, she's subject to a law that both. parents must be naturalized US citizens. in order for their child to get. citizenship. unless the other parent is. deceased. Omar has long claimed that her. mother, Feduma Akbar [ __ ] Hussein, died.
when she was 2 years old and her dad. raised her and the seven kids solo. The. identities of five of Omar's six. siblings have remained entirely unknown. Okay. The paperwork is currently under. federal scrutiny is littered with traps. officials could use to denaturalize the. lawyer said and that's the lawyer that. we're talking about here. But I mean. here's what you know. She may have been.
more than 17. >> Mhm. And there's accounts that would. suggest that her name and identity and. age, date of birth have been changed in. [snorts] the years since she became an. American citizen. >> Number number two, >> number two, your father. >> upon her father's passing, a former. Somali prime minister was like, top 10. list of war criminals, [laughter] my. goat, rest in peace. which which. just to put put a finer point on that,
the United States of America, even under. Democrats, has not made it a practice to. naturalize war criminals. Uh that that's. one of those I would say sort of trigger. mechanisms. Doesn't say that on the. Statue of Liberty. [laughter]. That mean tired, hungry, war criminals. That's not on the Statue. [laughter]. >> Yeah. So, if he's in fact a war. criminal, potentially problematic for. her citizenship bid. The third area of.
interest is the brother marriage. And. this is the one that's gotten the most. discussion because it's been the most. out there. You've heard President Trump. talk about it. >> and it's been a pretty amazing to me uh. that this is an area that can't just. >> right. >> It seems like the most clearcut. >> You can't just like put your be like no. that's not true or yes like you know. what I mean? How do we not I don't know. Anyway, according to the New York Post, uh tracked Ahmed Elme, alleged brother.
to South Africa where he surfaced last. November as a visiting scholar at the. University of Waters friend in. Johannesburg. >> This is also the thing like bro the. situation is so sketchy when they're. like the former husband brother surfaced. in South Africa. This is like is this. Jason Bourne? [laughter]. Dude, it gets better, man. >> Jason Bourne has surfaced in. Johannesburg. >> Dude, Whit Watersburg, he's got some. stuff going on. So, he leads and.
delivers undergraduate seminars and. political theory which focus on. contemporary glo global politics. according to his university profile. He's also resumed his British taxpayer. funded PhD research. Well, there you go. I mean, he's certainly got. >> into what probably some important study. >> Yeah. No, this is what is it, you know? I mean, you're Look, you're a smart guy. you've got your uh taxpayer funded. grant, your scientists, you're like, "Ah. God, I you know, I really I'm I'm.
forwardleaning in terms of my initiative. to try to betterment to be the. betterment of of society. What am I. going to study?" Uh quote, "Queer phobia. in Kenya.". >> Wait, really? >> No, no, no [ __ ]. >> Seriously. Yeah. >> His PhD research is into the topic of. queer phobia in Kenya. uh and in the. spring launch a Substack blog on this. niche topic. So he's got he's got stuff. on Substack about queer phobia in Kenya, which evidently he's being paid by the.
UK. >> taxpayer. >> Well, you know it's going well when it. ends up on Substack. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Well, Substack, I think, is what Wit. Waters stand has to work with cuz. nobody's ever seen them in the. tournament of 64. [laughter]. >> DO you know what I mean? They're not in. a playing game. Well, [gasps]. controversy has long surrounded his. marriage to Omar. While legally married. to Elme, Omar had her third child with. her first husband, Ahmed Hersy. >> Bro, this is also. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Third child with the first husband.
while married to the alleged brother. >> Yeah. Yeah. Accusations that Elme was in. fact Omar's brother first emerged from. Somal Minnesota Somali community itself. Local bloggers and this is where you. remember we got into like the waring. tribes. Yeah, >> I imagine they've got an oppo file. Anyway, uh bloggers alleged the. mysterious effeminate Elme blew into. town in the 2000s and that the future. congresswoman introduced him as her. brother from London, saying he needed.
papers, quote unquote, referring to. immigration documents. The documents. reviewed by the Post uh show the three. shared a residence at one point. Omar. was married to Hersy, her first husband, but only by non-legally [clears throat]. binding Muslim ceremony in 2002, which. was not recognized by this day. The. following year, their first child, Israel, was born, a second child, Adnan, was born in 2005. A Henipin County, Minnesota marriage certificate reviewed.
by the Post shows Omar and Elme. This is. the second husband alleged brother then. married on February 12th, 2009 in Eden. Prairie, Minnesota. >> Okay. Eden Prairie. >> Interesting. >> Was it was in a shotgun wedding, right? [laughter]. >> That just there's a lot of that shooting. going down in Eden Prairie. Makes sense, right? >> But um. >> that just came into vogue here in 2026. Usually do shotguns at at uh any sort of. public gatherings at Eden Prairie, right? Until the rest of the community.
got involved. Josh, I I just got to say. it's a kind of a complicated and twisted. fe family tree here. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. And it goes in and out. >> Uh, so. >> so the mysterious effeminate Elme. feminite. >> mysterious effeminate. >> that's in the reporters. >> the New York Post. >> This is in in the article here. >> The mysterious affeminate Elme. And and. this is the alleged brother, former. husband who also. >> was studying for his PhD on the British.
taxpayers's dime on queer phobia in. Kenya. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Just [snorts] a totally straight dude. covering [laughter] phobia. >> The theory is the theory is basically. that she might have been his beard. >> Wait. >> Yeah. Well, >> to get papers cuz they were she legit. said, quote, "I need some papers for. this guy. I need some papers for this. guy. >> Which is but not just like a totally. normal thing to say when you're above. board. >> But if you were just like surfing the. minds of the conservative internet, the.
takeaway that you would have had about. the brother relationship is that she. became a citizen because of her marriage. to the brother. >> In fact, the timeline does not support. that. The timeline suggests she's. entirely a citizen by murky. circumstances that her father. represented and murky circumstances. about reporting of her own age. The. marriage to the alleged brother. >> came two years after she was naturalized. in 2002.
and the brother may have needed his own. papers. >> Yeah. >> At some level. >> See, this is how you know it's not a. political prosecution. Everything is. above board because if we wanted to. indict somebody committing incest ahead. of the midterms that would benefit us, it would be Troy Jackson. >> Good line. There we go. There [laughter]. we go. >> Colloally recognized his cousin [ __ ]. here on the program. Yeah. Candidate for. Maine. Well, anyway, all of that is to.
say this is now under federal. investigation. and Henipin County, Minnesota marriage. certificate reviewed by the post uh. shows Omar and Elme the second husband. and alleged brother married on in is. formally contracted in 2009. >> Okay, >> so there was an informal and then a. formal. That wedding uh held by a. Christian minister despite Omar being. Muslim was legally recognized under law. After their 2017 divorce, Omar was.
legally married to Heresy before. divorcing him for a staffer. Minette and. the staffer is the one that that got her. into the public reporting of income. problems. Each one of these no good for. Elon Omar. Sounds like it's trouble with. men or commitment. [laughter]. Thank you for that smash. Just. [laughter] an absolute just [snorts]. throwing man rocks.
>> Well, I I mean, four marriages in a. short period of time. I mean, February. 12th, 2009 in Eden Prairie. That's I. don't know, roughly 20 days after Barack. Obama was sworn in. Maybe they were. euphoric because of the brand new. left-wing president of the United. States. And then boom, boom, boom. This. woman marries like a machine gun. >> Well, she's I mean, look, her rise. >> paperwork alone. >> Her yeah, her rise to power coincides. I. mean, she becomes a congressman in that.
in that area. But meanwhile, all of her. voters at some level have been up to no. good as we reported uh dutifully over. the last couple of weeks. And recall we. were talking about that shooting that. happened in a high school football game. >> One of the teams competing was my. hometown [snorts]. high school team. I was uh horrified to. see that Fox 9 reported that Eden. Prairie Homecoming shooting suspect. released on bond ahead of Monday court.
appearance. So, the Henipin County jail. records show that the man accused of. shooting two people at the Eden Prairie. Homecoming game has been released on. bond. >> and it's a $100,000 bond or a cash bond. of $10,000 as bail is typically set at. 10% of where the court sets. >> Wait, wait a minute. This guy, this is. the alleged shooter. This is a trigger. man. The alleged trigger man. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, no, it's not. This isn't. somebody hanging around with the group. is the guy who actually pulled the.
trigger. >> from the Somali community. Allegedly. Allegedly. Not is it allegedly? He's. from a Somali. >> No, no, he's not allegedly from Somali. Alleged. Alleged shooter. He is from the. Somali community. And just like that, $10,000. >> Just like that.$10,000. >> The liberal media jumped down Mitt. Romney's throat when he bet $10,000. And. the Somali community in Minnesota is. famous for what? >> Being like 70% on welfare. >> Yeah. So, how in the world do they have. 10,000. >> a decent point.
>> to get an alleged 10k. out a bail fund still had some cash in. it. >> Said he didn't he was 18. He said he. didn't go to school at either one of the. two schools. He was from St. Paul. He. was part of a Somali gang allegedly that. was having a gang war in the high school. parking lot of two schools that they. didn't go to school uh at, but they were. he was arrested and then posted 10K. Well, maybe he's an entrepreneur in the. in the daycare business. >> Yeah. Who knows? It's a lot of lot of. that going around. >> A lot of lingering. You want to know.
this guy's name? >> Yes. >> Adam. Abdihake. >> Okay. >> Adam. >> The two Adams. >> Two Adams. Two Adams, one shooter. [laughter]. >> Adam. Abdihake. Adam of Minneapolis posted bond. Saturday. Set to appear court in court. on Monday afternoon. The shooting caused. the game to be cancelled and their I. might add their homecoming, their dance. and all of the things that associated. with Ian Pra's high school.
[clears throat] cancelled by as a result. of the shooting. Not to mention the two. people that took one from this. >> cat separately from the alleged shooter. How the hell does someone who has. everybody thinks shot people get out of. jail two days after it occurs? How does. that happen? Well, what's interesting to. me about this is fundamentally we're. talking about a school shooting. It. doesn't matter whether it happens in a. classroom or it happens on a football. stadium. I mean, you're talking about a.
shooting that happened around a bunch of. kids at a high school event. Can you. imagine anywhere in the country where. someone would be firing weapons into. crowds of high school kids and then a. let out on bond? Are you kid? Like. that's just it it blows the mind. >> I think it's safe to say there's. something wrong with the system. >> Yeah. >> In Minnesota. >> Bingo. >> Yeah. I it it's unquestionably true. But.
none of them raise any even a little bit. of concern about all of it. All of it is. like there was a bunch of discussion. about like well just imagine how the. Somali feel about all of this being. targeted by your ridicule. Well, I don't. know. Stole all of our money and. starting shooting our kids. I think. they're well welcomed for some ridicule. and like that's the situation that. people find. I just hope to God that. people in Minnesota aren't.
persuaded by a national trend here in a. a a difficult Republican environment and. look around at what has happened to. their community as a result of. Democratic leadership and make some. choices here in November because I I. just if this kind of thing just. continues, the guy shoots up a high. school football game, he's out, your. congresswoman for now like 10 years. >> may or may not be even a legal United. States resident and you're just like, "Oh, well, be but think about how other.
people feel about that, right? I mean, you're just not going to get it back if. you can't win. It's just you got to kick. these people out." It's just it's. unbelievable. Anyway, we come back, Abdul Elsed denies that he has a. connection to the radical Muslim. Brotherhood, but his sister says. otherwise, and we have the details about. all of that right after this. [bell]. For over two decades, the Tunnels to. Towers Foundation has been there for our. fallen and catastrophically injured.
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who we've covered endlessly on this. program because he keeps providing more. information. And unlike James Talerico. who decided to take like a 12day absence. in his campaign uh because he thinks he. can say decided like I'm going to do. every single major media hit I can and. each one he provides just more trouble. for himself. But it's only really. trouble if people catch what it is that.
he's saying. >> and compare it to his record, his. family's record. like what it is that he. has presented as a person and a a voter. before he was a candidate. Anyway, so he. goes on Meet the Press, which is kind of. like it used to be the thing that you. did in politics. It was the grand dam of. the Sunday show. I think it's. almost worthless these days. >> Almost really? >> I think I think it is. Meet the Press is.
worthless. >> It's only speaking to the same people. who always vote the same way no matter. what. And. but it's all it's still almost worth it. >> What was his name? [ __ ] Todd. Didn't he. lose that? They took it from him. >> Yeah. Yeah. [ __ ] Todd. [laughter]. >> They did. You were correct. >> Look how Matt Ash gets when I talk about. his friends. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Anyway, here he is on Meet the Press in. clip one. For Michigan voters who are. hearing those attacks against you, who. are looking to separate fact from.
fiction, can you set the record straight. about whether you or your family have. any ties to the Muslim Brotherhood? >> No. But let's talk about this. >> No, you don't have any ties. >> No. >> And your family doesn't? >> No. >> Definitely on the record. That's very. clearcut. >> Mhm. It's kind of like when he when they. were like, "Are you a member of DSA?". And he's like, "No, absolutely not." and. they're like, "Well, did you keynote the last five DSA. conventions?" [laughter].
Doesn't have an answer for that. Anyway, as it turns out, the Free Beacon, who is. doing a lot of really good work at this. point in time, this is the kind of work. that you would expect a functional media. to do if you were in Michigan or if. you're in the New York Times or. Washington Post. You just have to lean. on the Free Beacon because they're the. only ones that are doing it. Anyway, they say Abdel says family has quote. long been in Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood. Senate candidate sister said unearthed.
social media post. >> interesting. So these tweets are still. up. They don't fall into our sed deleted. tweet category. >> which we've got we got a whole. >> they will soon probably by the time. you're listening to this they will be. deleted but Iman Abdullahi an assistant. professor at the University of Chicago. wrote openly about her family's ties to. the Muslim Brotherhood in social media. posts in 2012 and 2013 the Washington. free beacon found graphic three pop. those bad boys up.
praying for all my family that supports. the Muslim Brotherhood. It's it's #MBB, which uh stands for Muslim Brotherhood. in Egypt. Lie low and stay safe. >> Lie low. >> Okay. Okay. [gasps] Next tweet is uh at Omar. Camel. [ __ ] My family has long been. Muslim Brotherhood, but I've always felt.
that it navigated the political sphere. poorly or destructively. H. >> So, they've been involved. She has some. some tips, >> some slight critiques on the messaging. >> They're like, uh, on Meet the Press, to. be clear, have you or your family ever. been affiliated with the Muslim. Brotherhood? >> No. >> Goes to tweet, "MY FAMILY HAS LONG BEEN. MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD." [laughter]. >> My family implicating him directly. >> Straight up. Right. >> Uh, >> and also, folks, just real quick, it's. important to note this is not just like. confused, strange, you know, sibling.
This is a professor at Chicago. Okay. Yeah, a lot of a lot of that going. around in the Islamist and the DSA. communities. It's like everybody saying. they're working class, represent the. people, and then they all have fancy. degrees and work in academia. A lot of. that going around, huh? It's almost like. this entire thing, this vanguard of. these movements isn't regular people at. all. >> Yep. And same thing as memdani whose. [clears throat] family's got like a. compound overseas in Uganda. >> Just like all the professors who founded.
the Muslim Brotherhood, >> by the way. By the way, >> great point by Dun. [laughter] Great. point by Duncan. So, she's got a lot as. it turns out to say about the Muslim. Brotherhood. um after saying that her. family has long been uh Muslim. Brotherhood and after the tweet where. she says that she's praying for all of. those folks, she then a month later. talks about in graphic 4, I don't. support the Muslim Brotherhood, but I. have family jailed for being a part of. it. [clears throat].
>> They feel extremely betrayed right now. >> # Egypt # perspective. Well, that's. interesting though because in that first. tweet she was giving them advice to lie. low. >> Yeah. >> Now she's saying I don't support. >> Huh. >> Yeah. >> It's interesting. Maybe she's lying low. >> Maybe she's the one that's lying low. She's also said although I lean towards. leftist conversations with my Muslim. Brotherhood family in Egypt revealed. respect for individual li liberties in a.
secular state. >> Yeah. That's what those Islamists are. known for. >> Everybody's thought that. Yeah, I mean. that's what we think of. >> the extremely secular Muslim. Brotherhood. [laughter]. >> And finally, my conversations with uh. Muslim Brotherhood family in Egypt have. one unifying tone. It's not over. Oh. boy. It's like, man, that's the kind of. tweet that How are you not on like the. Homeland Security list? You know what I. mean? Like this is just menacing at this. point. >> Can we put those tweets back? >> By the way, it's not over. Can we put.
them can we put those tweets back up. just one more time because I noticed the. first one is on July 3rd and the last. one is on July 5th and I don't know what. you guys are thinking about between July. 3rd and July 5th. >> but it's usually America. >> and um here she is talking about the. Muslim Brotherhood before and after the. 4th of July. >> Yeah, you you might get the impression. that maybe the United States is not our. first interest. >> Could be. you know, celebrating our.
independence. >> You never know. I don't want to cast. aspersions. >> I certainly You don't want to cast those. dis aspersions. They get casted. >> I mean, there's Persians are everywhere. these [snorts] days. >> And, you know, >> so close to an election. >> I'm sure that she's got the, you know, interest of the region in at heart here. And I'm sure that there's another tweet. somewhere where she told the Egyptians. to tear down those fences and allow the. Palestinian refugees into their country. Maybe not. Well, whatever it is, the. idea that none of his family have ever.
been associated or interested in the. Muslim Brotherhood is belied by the. tweets of his sister. And again, we just. keep coming back to it with this guy. It's bold-faced lie after bald-faced. lie. And honestly, I think he probably. would have u cpped to this stuff in the. primary. >> probably. I mean, that's the thing is. like this is now the general election. This is where all the leftists lie to. trick people into getting them into. office. And like Duncan said, this is.
more insidious than you could imagine. This is all part of the plan. This is. how it's happened countless times. whenever you have these revolutionaries. It's a bunch of college kids. It's a. bunch of academics. They take over. countries. They [ __ ] it all up. And it. is terrifying because now this guy's on. the precipice of becoming a United. States senator while at the same time. his sister is uh educating the youth. over in Chicago. Uh that's that's the. country we live in. >> I mean it's just truly remarkable. >> Like when is it going to be time, you.
know, draw the line in the sand? >> Yeah. >> It's it's enough is enough. >> Eyes wide open, folks. This is what's. coming your way. Another uh fun story. this week came from Fox News. So Scott. Besson, one of our absolute favorites. He's the Treasury Secretary. Uh we've. had him on here before and one of the. things we appreciate most about him is. he's just cutting wit. He's just. >> very funny guy. >> He's funny, but he always just kind of. throws something anywhere anywhere. He. he says uh or he sends a letter back to.
Elizabeth Warren where he mocks uh. well her self-proclaimed indigenous. background. Mhm. >> Fox business has exclusively obtained a. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant's. response to Elizabeth Warren's letter uh. about the rise of the 10-year Treasury. yield. The senator has sent more than. 100 letters to Treasury over the last uh. 21 months. Best and Saturday. >> That's also extremely normal. >> Yeah. I mean, it's just [laughter].
like a 100 letters. I mean, it's a lot. Best Saturday letter, which was snarky. uh at other points as well, accused. Warren of having little knowledge about. the financial markets. Quote, "Rather. than take my suggestion of studying the. introductory economics, you've continued. your letterw writing crusade and. [laughter]. >> participation in tabloid fodder about. the Treasury Department." He wrote, [laughter]. "He's just so dismissive.". >> Yeah. >> Letterw writing crusade. [laughter].
>> He sent it. Uh Warren sent the letter on. October 7, by the way. That's where her. head was at, asking for more information. about what the Trump administration was. doing to lower borrowing costs for. Americans. Um, Bassant refuted all of. her characterizations. uh by adding, "It is difficult to treat. your concern as sincere," adding that as. the federal funds rate climbed from zero. to its highest level in 22 years with. inflation hitting a 40-year high. You.
were a cheerleader for the Biden. administration's reckless spending. >> Yeah. Because it was all her staff that. ran his administration. >> That's it. >> Exactly. And so he goes on to to write a. bunch of other critiques, but in the. end, graphic one, a handwritten note, "Happy Indigenous. People's Day in advance to you and your. family," Bess and Han wrote at the end. of this scathing letter mocking her. former claim of native American.
heritage. [laughter]. You know what I love about this is. certainly staff could draft a letter. >> Yes. >> He wanted her to know. >> I read that. >> He wrote that. Yeah. I This one's mine. >> Good point. Yeah. >> This one's mine. I'm going handwritten. on the end of it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean, just an epic. This guy, he's just one of my favorites. He takes. no [ __ ] from anybody. It's fantastic. Uh. going down south, there was an. interesting election in Peru. I don't.
know if you gentlemen have followed. this. I don't typically follow. >> Peruvian elections. >> Peruvian elections. Uh but I did in this. case because there were some familiar. names. [laughter]. A man named Hitler Mussolini Simeon. Flores has secured a narrow victory in. Peru's local elections. Exit polls show. Uh, graphic two, if you want to pop that. bad boy up, is according to the BBC, that's Hitler Mousolini.
right there. Uh, an interesting name. Uh, >> his parents naming him for the world. stage. [laughter]. >> He he shares a name with Adolf Hitler. and Bonito Mussolini, two of the most. well-known figures of the 20th century, eur European totalitarian regimes. He. made his candidacy a quote unquote. striking event at local outlet Peru 21. reported. Despite his curiosity. generated by his name, local media noted.
that Hitler uh Goolan Albba Sanchez had. been elected mayor of young. So there's. a previous Hitler. >> So he's the second. >> Yeah, [laughter] there's two. >> The second Peruvian Hitler. >> Yeah. My my favorite part of this story. is his name is Hitler Mussolini. And you. read here that he was a candidate for. the center left party, a horror nion, [laughter]. and you're imagining it as [gasps] like. a rabid fascist party.
>> Wait till you find out who he is running. against. >> Oh, tell me. >> Smuggles. >> So the he reportedly beat rival. candidate Lenin Vladimir. So this like what is happening among. Peruvian families? Because he's the. second Hitler to be mayor and he beats. Vladimir or Lenin Vladimir. What's going. on here? >> You know, there were always a lot of. rumors that after the Second World War, a bunch of Germans migrated to South. America. >> Yeah, but I don't think they settled in. Peru, brother. >> Maybe they settled all over the place. I. don't think they did.
>> Maybe there's more than you think. because he's the second elected. Now, he. did run on a campaign slogan of quote, "I am the good Hitler," unquote. >> My god. >> I like that he doesn't try to get away. with saying, I'm the good Italian, though, because like no one buys that. [laughter]. No one was buying that [ __ ] you know. Even in Peru, they know about they know. about that situation. >> All of a sudden, no, waste management. becomes like booming in Peru. Number one.
source of income. No, they don't want to. deal with that. >> The good Hitler is a hell of a. >> That's a wild slogan. >> That's a hell of a bumper sticker that. they've got going on. All right, so uh. there's some airline news out there, Smug. I don't know how you feel about. this, but it turns out there's much. about our nation's airways that leaves a. touch to be desired. But every once in a. while, someone comes in and steals a. tug. [laughter]. >> I mean, that's what they're called, apparently. I didn't know that. >> I read maybe three stories last week. about people stealing a tug. One woman.
was stole one on herself in front of a. horrified unlooking cabin class. This. man. >> apparently at John Wayne Airport stole a. tug and drove it around the tarmac. [laughter]. >> So these are those little cars that sort. of taxi the plane into the gate. >> Oh, this goddamn worst. >> Little bit of a double entandra for you. Uh Michael, I know you appreciate that. sort of. >> I do. >> Do we do we have a a clip of this? >> Hey groundatch 349. Just out of.
curiosity, um you know what's going on. with the vehicles behind us with all the. law enforcements? Yeah, >> this is a dude in one of those like. little truck thingies that you know like. tow the planes around. >> and he's just like. >> telling a pilot. >> all in reverse though which like he he. definitely didn't know exactly how to. drive the thing as it turns out he. didn't because. >> he's driving it pretty well in reverse I. got to say. >> that's I mean you know it's some acumen. for sure but according to airport. officials he stole the alliance ground.
international tug assigned to Alaska. Airlines and crashed it into another. vehicle. by gate 7. >> So it was a Delta He was a Delta. passenger stole an Alaska Airlines tug. and is driving it around John Wayne, which is a great airport by the way. It. beats having a fly to LAX. So this guy number one, I want to know. why he's going ham. And I think it's. important to to to say he was a Delta. passenger because if there's one thing.
Delta is known for, it's screwing their. passenger. [laughter]. Like it, you know, it's like a a Delta. flight isn't a way to get from point A. to point B. It's a psychological. experiment of how much [ __ ] they can put. you through before someone [ __ ]. steals a tug [laughter] and starts. wheeling around the [ __ ] airport, right? Like how when you fly Delta, they. will do everything in their power to. torture you and [ __ ] with you and make. and humiliate you and make you feel. horrible. Smug, I actually agree with.
you in this and I want to defend this. man because there's nothing worse than. when you land. >> and the captain gets on and he's like, "Well, >> you know, we actually made great time in. the air. We're we've arrived a little. bit early." And then what always. happens? >> You pull up to the gate and then captain. comes back on. >> Bad news, folks. Uh, got another. airplane in our gate. So, we're going to. go ahead and sit here. And you end up. spending more time on the tarmac than. you spent in the air waiting to get off. the airplane. I think everyone,
>> all of us here included at one time have. wished they could pop the door open, get. on, get on a tug, and just get get home. >> That's the thing is because I think the. airport is not the place for like risky. tom foolery. Okay, we all got to get. home safe. [laughter]. The but the but we have to appreciate. the fact that the villain here is the. airline. [laughter]. They're the bad guy here. Cuz just like. just like Duncan says, the amount of. time Americans are sitting on tarmac. like the pilot's like, "I did my job. I.
flew the damn thing. I landed it here. We're going to sit here for 45 minutes. God forbid it's sprinkling because I. don't know if it's unionized labor or. what." They're not going to connect the. goddamn skybridge to get you off that. plane. You're going to sit out there. like sitting ducks while they're all. watching you from inside the airport. like, "You think lightning's going to. hit them? You think it's going to kill. them? This is for your own safety. We're. keeping you out here in a metal tube. while the lightning's flying over our. heads for your safety. No, it's because. these airline, the unionized airline.
employees are all cowards. Put that. bridge on and get me out of this goddamn. tube. >> How is this legal? >> Secretary Duffy, I think you need to, you know, [laughter]. No, I'm not attacking him because he, as. he said, you know, we talked to him at. the at the midterm convention, he. listens to the people. [snorts] get some. of these guys in the HSI jackets and. start kicking in doors for these Delta. executives homes. These fat cats who. live in mansions and they probably have. like they all these fat cats sit at home.
in their mansions and they've got closed. circuit TVs being like how long do you. think we can keep these people sitting. on the tarmac before one of them steals. a tug. They're all I I got I got 10,000. You Mitt Romneyy's there. He's like I. got 10,000. This guy's got an hour. before he cracks. Did you? [laughter]. And that's what what has become of air. travel in this country. >> Did you did you follow the story last. week about Katie Iner, a Maryland. resident who steal a tug of her own? >> I did.
>> What is it? >> Well, she was the woman who apparently. was on American Airlines flight uh who. decided to enter the Mal High Club uh. allegedly by herself. >> Oh, where she. >> Maryland person? >> Of course. as I understand it, she has. no recollection of having done so. [laughter]. >> Well, she was there's a lot of stories. written about it. I mean, she she. apparently exhibited similar. frustrations to what Smug had. illustrated instead of stealing the tug.
outside of. >> how not being like, "Oh, she doesn't. remember." There's no uh woman saying. that, "Oh, it's not my fault. You're not. going to run with Alan. We're waiting. for you.". >> You're supposed to pile on the women. this episode. [laughter]. >> Trying to run from accountability. >> You know what? I got to Google the. story. [laughter and gasps]. >> You didn't see it? >> I did not see it. >> Yeah. >> Well, also it's American, which is like. worse than Southwest at this point. >> I mean, this is what you're going to. get. First off, if you think it's bad. enough having a Maryland passenger, wait. until you see what they do when they're.
in the air. >> You know, of course, it's American. American Delta just mess. >> I got to say, I got to say, I had a. recent flight on Alaska. >> Fantastic experience. Fantastic. experience. >> It's like the only good domestic. carrier. Yeah, >> I was on the same flight. They had. Starlink. >> Uh, and we had multi-creens going for. NFL Sunday. >> Red Zone. >> There should maybe be a new addendum to. the passengers agreement that, you know, prohibits people from attempting to. steal a tug.
>> one way or another. >> Stealing tugs. >> The real criminals are the executives of. these airlines. >> You'd like to think societal pressure. would play a role, but I guess that's a. lot of work. >> A lot of tugging going along. There's no. question about that. I think people lost. all their boundaries postco. >> pretty much. Seems [laughter] like it, right? >> I guess I guess. All right, we got a. good interview coming up. You fellas uh. did this bad boy. Very, very impressive. What can you tell me about it? >> Yeah, so this is with uh Joe Jebia, founder of Airbnb. I mean, he's done.
terrific for himself in business and. decided, you know what? I want to give. back by helping make government. efficient and beautiful and harness AI. Uh folks, you may have heard about. America.gov. You're going to hear about. all the wonderful things that Joe Jebia. and National Design Studio are doing uh. in this interview and and thank you to. our partners at Build American AI who. partner with us on this. >> Ladies and gentlemen, I am so excited. for this next interview. We have a.
businessman, a patriot, and someone who. is making our government functional yet. again. Thank you so much, Joe Jebia. Welcome to the show, >> guys. Thanks for having me. It's honor. Thank you so much. So, uh, hopefully by. now the vast majority of our listeners. have opened Trump Accounts for Your. Kids. It's an incredible program. Um, it's going to be life-changing for so. many Americans. >> And I myself recently just opened it for. my son. And the experience was not only.
so seamless, so easy, like I'm talking. about under 10 minutes, but it's. beautiful. it. I I cannot believe an. interaction with the federal government. can be functional and beautiful and easy. and thank you so much for that because. your your team at National Design. Studios also responsible for that app. >> That's right. That's right. We were. lucky enough to to work on that app. And. I think it's interesting as a as a kid. when I grew up in Atlanta, we'd. [clears throat] be driving around. downtown Atlanta and it became known to.
me somehow that a really drab gray. building was a government building. >> Oh, yeah. >> Right. And and so there's this I think. this sort of stigma um in more modern. government um around aesthetics, usability that it's going to be hard. You got to really buckle up. >> You're going to be in for a ride trying. to figure something out. Um and so I. think what this administration is doing. um starting with President Trump across. the cabinet. >> is they're saying the president is. saying enough is enough. Mhm.
>> The the way that people interact with. the government is no longer by walking. into these beautiful buildings of 100. years ago. >> where the lobbies are exceptionally. designed. You see them because they're. still around today. Beautiful marble. floors, coffford ceilings, brass inlay. on the walls, these um incredible fresco. by American artists because the. government used to care about the user. experience of how people of of the mo. the moment where the government and. citizen came to meet. >> in those lobbies. It was designed. There.
was respect conveyed. And today the. lobby is a website. That's people's. actual touch point with the government. So why not invest that same care of the. marble and the same care of the fresco. details through a browser experience? >> I mean it's it's it's mind-blowing. because like you said for so so long. people have been conditioned to think. dealing with government is like a DMV. line. This is going to be a headache. This is going to be drab cold, but.
you're right. Historically, it was a. sign of respect from the government for. its citizens who fund it, who vote, who. who are this republic. And it's. incredible that having that mindset back. and as an individual now interacting. with like I now at least two, three. times a day pop open the Trump account, >> checking on my son's investments, and. it's it's just it's a wonderful. experience. It's a beautiful experience, and it's a positive one. Um, and and. thank you for that. The the big thing.
that that you've just unveiled and. gotten to work on now is America.gov. Can you explain that to all our. listeners? >> So, America.gov [snorts]. is um the place where you go to start. anything in the government to get. something done. And the idea came about. earlier this year where National Design. Studio, our task, our mandate from the. government, from President Trump was to. [clears throat]. fix the lobby, really address these the. interfaces that America has with the. federal government.
>> And there was a lot of interfaces, a. lot. 29,000 websites, >> my goodness, >> hundreds of millions of pages, billions. of pieces of content. And [snorts] um. along this journey of how do we solve. this um AI models were maturing and they. got to a point where we said maybe the. easiest way to do this and the best. experience for the citizen is not to. reskin 29,000 websites. What if we take. those and we make it one? What if. there's one website where you can just.
ask for what you need. >> and the government can go get it done. for you instead of today's world where. the burden's on the citizen. You got to. go figure out which site to go to. If. you're lucky enough to find it, you got. to hunt down the link to to get to the. form to find the submit button and then. pray to God it went through. >> And so we flipped the whole thing. around. Said, you know what? This is. government serving the people, not the. people serving the government. So what. does it look like if you just type in. what you need and you get the the access. to the information, the answer you're.
looking for quickly? Because we can scan. across those 29,000 sites, which are. basically our LLM. Mhm. >> So, our answers are only from official. sources. Um, which is interesting because it. makes them both accurate uh and. upto-date. If you use other third party. models, they scan the whole internet. And so, answers include information. sometimes that is inaccurate or out ofd. Um, [snorts] and then coming soon is the. real magic.
>> where if you're searching for how do I. renew my passport, you'll get the. information and then the ability to. renew it right in the chat. >> It's incredible. It's incredible. >> It is. And you know, something that. really strikes me, Joe, is that like. design is one thing and I for aesthetics. is one thing. Obviously, you're very. famous for having both of those things. in spades, but I think you're also. pretty famous for being a problem. solver. And of course the whole the. whole program you ran to fix the. retirement process in the federal.
government. I mean it takes a problem. solver to sort of cut through a lot of. issues that the government brings. together that create these problems. >> And you know I'm sure other people have. thought man we should we should make it. easier. We should we should make it look. better but they weren't able to execute. on that. And I just wonder if you could. talk a little bit about the process from. going from A to where we are now. thankfully because you just kept kind of. punching through. >> Yeah. Well, it actually starts at the. top. And so because this is a.
presidential initiative, you know, executive order 14338 signed by the. president August 21st, 2025, that was. really where the mandate came from. And. given that it's such a top- down. mandate, it allows us to have authority, right, to to go move through these, you. know, old systems and find better ways. that ultimately lead to a better. customer experience on the front end. Um, and so that that was, I think, one. of the most important things. You know, there's been other attempts over the. last couple decades to do something of a.
consolidated, you know, prei of course. version of this. Um but they I don't. think they ever had the blessing from. the boss, you know. And so. >> um how lucky are we that we have a. president that cares about this stuff? >> He wants to invest in the experience. He. wants to fix these, you know, mundane. and broken and super frustrating. experiences for all Americans. Doesn't. matter who you voted for. It's for. anybody that's looking for Medicare. It's anybody that wants to change their. address because they just moved with the. USPS. It's for anybody that uh needs to.
take out or manage a student loan. for. across the board every service the. government has to offer. And I I think. it's just we're so fortunate that we. have a president who likes to build, likes to fix things, whether it's a. fountain in DC, whether it's the the way. that every American interacts with the. federal government. >> and everything in between. >> Um that's that's how we're able to. actually get stuff done. >> Yeah. I I think we're also lucky that a. guy like that attracts a certain type of. leader into his organization. somebody.
like you, obviously very successful in. business, and then you get to Washington. and all of a sudden the words out, "Hey, Joe's here." And then I I got to imagine. that slowly but surely people just start. emailing you on the side like, "Hey, could you come take a look at my website. real [laughter] fast? Can you come fix. this problem for me?" It's like if you. know, it's like if Scotty Sheffller was. working in the administration, somebody's going to email and be like, "Hey, can you come look at my golf. swing?" You know what I mean? Like you. got I'm sure you're getting a lot. I. mean, your team fixed the food pyramid. Like, the food pyramid is [laughter] now.
beautiful. How does that happen? >> Right. Everybody wants a piece of it. >> Yeah. That was a call from uh Bobby. Kennedy saying, "Joe, we've got these. and Brook Rollins. They've got a 200page. PDF of the new dietary guidelines. Um, you know, really thoughtful content, but. no one's going to read 200page PDF, you. know, unless you're deep in the. industry." Um, and so they said, "Well, how how can we translate this for, you. know, everyday Americans to be. introduced to the new dietary. guidelines?" and we took the assignment, worked through real food.gov to do the.
storytelling behind it and of course the. iconic food pyramid that got turned. upside down. >> It's amazing. And I think you touched on. one of uh the most important things I. feel about America. Is I think so many Americans are not. familiar with how AI or super. intelligence is going to be able to. positively impact their lives. like you. hear about on the news, you've heard a. lot of the doomer stuff, but this is a. example of how every American can.
personally benefit from all that it is. capable of. Tell me more about how you. guys have harnessed AI. Yeah. Well, look, it's um it's an incredibly. powerful tool obviously and um I think. it's really exciting that the president. has embraced SI. >> Mhm. >> uh as as much as he has and um and what. what a great example of SI to improve. people's lives, you know. Um. >> so the way we've employed it is that. it's set up to does doesn't make. decisions for people like it doesn't do.
anything on their behalf, but it sets. people up to make better decisions, >> get access to the things that they're. looking for faster. So again, instead of. having to hunt down the site with the. link, you just type in, you know, I'm. looking for information on which. Medicare plan is right for me. >> And we can show you the links. immediately of where you need to go to. find that information. And as the site. continues to evolve, we bring those. actions directly into the chat, which is. a first of its kind, by the way. >> Yeah, it's it's incredibly unique to. have all of it at your fingertips. For. example, already examples uh folks have.
been posting online of their interaction. with it of you have veterans who will go. on and and they used to have to comb. through 10,000 pages to see what. benefits they've been entitled to for. serving their country. And now because. you guys have harnessed super. intelligence, all the answers, everything they're looking for is at one. place. Easy to remember America.gov. You. you see seniors who are like, "How could. I save on my prescription?" So many. people are not aware of how much. prescription prices have been driven.
down. And again, America.gov is a. resource for it. Harnessing SI to bring. all that information to people's. fingertips. It's truly life-changing. >> Well, thank you guys. It's uh we're. getting a lot a lot of positive comments. um from everybody, you know, young. people, old people. Um at Airbnb, we had. this this uh mantra, the site has to be. mom friendly. >> If we're ever going to transcend to. become mainstream one day, our moms have. to be able to [clears throat] figure. this out. without calling their tech. friendly sons. >> to do tech support.
>> Yeah, exactly. [laughter] Exactly. >> So, the interface has to be intuitive. enough and simple enough that you can. navigate it and figure out how to, you. know, find a place to book and things on. on Airbnb. And so, that same principle. is applied here from a usability. standpoint, except at this level, it's. not about mom friendly, it's about. grandparent friendly. Mhm. >> So, um we actually did usability studies. and we have a whole cohort um to put our. designs through the gauntlet of. grandparents. >> and we we hit reality in the face to see.
like did what we imagine, of course we. can use it, but did it really stand up. to the test of time with um you know an. audience that needs to access these. important services, can they navigate. the site on their own? You really do not get that kind of. common sense from government very often. Never it just hasn't really existed. before right now. >> And and harnessing super intelligence so. even grandparents can benefit from it is. just like a tremendous accomplishment. >> So I have a testimonial um that came in.
yesterday on this very topic from one of. our team members, grandmother. And she. goes on to say this. The america.gov. website is very impressive. 29,000. websites in one place. That's amazing. Smiley face. I received a $90 deposit. from Social Security today and didn't. know what it was for. So, I asked on the. website and received a very detailed. answer. >> I didn't think they would have the. answer. The SI is amazing. She's using. SI like she already got [laughter] it. >> Way to go, President Trump. Like, like. really.
unbelievably well. >> Um, I asked uh another question and. received very detailed answers. Few. years ago, Social Security decided to. change their login. It was complete. disaster what I had to go through to. access my account was unbelievable and. I'm computer literate. Many seniors. don't have a lot of computer knowledge. No one wants to deal with government. agencies because it's nightmare. I think. this website is going to change that. Well done. Bravo. >> Man. Oh man. >> That's why you do it. >> Yeah. That's incredible. [clears throat]. It's printed out. It's up on our wall in.
our the executive building around the. corner here in our studio. >> Well, I mean if if I got some kind of. feedback like that, I know I'd print it. out and put it on the wall. Like that's. a that's a triumph, you know. It is it. is a triumph. And I I wonder, you know, I'm sure that there are other aspects to. America.gov that you guys are working. on, continuing to to build on, but what. else? Where do you go from here? You. know, what else what else are you. looking at rolling out? I mean, >> this is the big one. So, now it's all. about integrations. >> Okay. So, there's hundreds, thousands of.
different ways to integrate uh actions. that you currently do across those tens. of thousands of websites that we can. consolidate into one easy place to to. get it done. And so, you know, whether. that's taking out the student loan or. filing for the permit for national park. or booking the national park pass or the. campsite, >> incredible. >> or think about all there's all the. things. >> that happen across the federal. government. Um it's it's amazing that. you know for so long the the site is. just the site the network of sites have.
just sort of just grown like. uncontrolled you know. >> Mhm. >> And so I think um I think it's time that. the our nation puts our foot down says. we're the United States of America or a. superpower. We're not okay. >> with these outdated 1990s era websites. that cause people such grief and. frustration. Mhm. >> Um, let's be a leader across. uh finance and culture and technology. and the citizen experience. >> Mhm. >> Why not? Don't Americans deserve that?
>> I think they do. >> So, let's just do it. And I think. President Trump is an investment. The. team, amazing team, by the way. Um, shout out to Ed Cornstein who runs. engineering, James Ays who runs design, Peter Arnell who runs um marketing and. brand. Um, we've attracted and they've. attracted an incredible group of people. to to this cause. People who otherwise. had no no plans to be in government. No. one on the team was planning to be here.
Um, but they found themselves here. because the mission is so compelling. Think about this. If you're a tech tech. guy, >> an engineer, uh, and you've got an. option between an offer in San Francisco. to start, you know, or be part of some. AI startup or an offer to come join this. effort, you know, good luck with the AI. startup. I wish you the best. Maybe, you. know, if you're lucky, it'll get to. scale eventually. Or you can come here. And on day one, you have a an install. user base of 340 million people.
[laughter]. >> And by the way, this is not like a B2B. product where your parents have no idea. what you're working on. Uh-huh. >> This is a product that they're going to. use. >> Yeah. >> Your grandparents, your sister, your. brother, your aunt, your uncle, colleagues. >> It's for everybody. >> Yeah. >> And so I think that's how we've been. able to attract this really top tier um. expertise out of Silicon Valley to be. here to change this nation. And I also. tell people who join the team, be. prepared to change the world because. what the United States does becomes an. example that other countries copy. So,
funny enough, in 24 hours since the. launch, um there were calls from other. countries saying, "How do we do this? >> How did you pull it off?" Amazing. >> We we wanted to do this, too. And in. fact, um a couple things posted across. X. Um there was an effort in Canada to. to recreate this this interface already. So, I I think it'll be true that um as. we continue to get this right, um. there'll be other countries to say, "Let's just do what they're doing.". It's, you know, I'm not surprised at all. because when you solve problems that.
everybody's been trying to figure out. for years and years and years, then all. of a sudden, like we were saying about. people inside the government, hey, can. hey Joe, can you come over and help me. with this? Now it's on the world stage. and now you got other countries saying, hey, how do we do the same thing? And I. mean, like it's it's a very attractive. message for potential talent coming into. the government and recruitment. And you. know, um, we talked to, uh, Scott Cooper. a lot about everything he's doing to try. to try to bring in young people into the. government, get them into the system.
where they can learn something that they. haven't, you know, this it's a good. place to work. It's [clears throat] not. your grandfather's federal job. Um, and. I got to imagine I know that I I read. that your team is pretty small, right? I. mean, it's it's 12 24 people, something. like that in that range. >> No kidding. growing fast, >> pulling all this off with that size. team. >> Well, I you know, it speaks to the. caliber of the group. You know, it's. it's people have shipped products. before, designed products for, you know,
audiences of hundreds of millions of. people. >> Yeah. >> So, it's people understand scale. It's. people who um they love the. responsibility that we have, which is. intense. >> It's like really intense. >> You know, this is, you know, we're. shaping a user experience for for. everybody across our nation. And so. people um it's for people who have the. uh the wherewithal and the excitement. about that responsibility. >> Thank you so much. I want to tell. everyone, all our listeners, all our. viewers, if you have not yet, go to. america.gov, see the incredible work. that they've done. See what happens when.
super intelligence can be harnessed to. help Americans. It's mind-blowing. Thank. you so much for your time, George Abia. >> It's great to be here, guys. Thanks for. having me. Thank you. >> Thank you. Well, this guy is obviously very, very. smart. And like we talked about in the. interview, I think that we're pretty. fortunate that smart business guys who. could be doing anything with their life. that they would want have chosen to go. into the government and make it better. I think that the changes he's making to. our government, making it more.
responsive to your average citizen, >> but I don't even think he understands. himself how big of a deal it is. I mean, for generations, people have tried to. break down the bureaucracy and make it. more friendly to your typical citizen, and it's never worked until now. And. what this guy is doing and his team, and. he's got some famous, very smart guys on. his team who are all part of bringing. this government into the 21st century. I. think that this is this is an absolutely.
tremendous effort. And he invited us. over to the design studio to see it for. ourselves. It's amazing. Turns out when. you bring in talented, smart, successful. people to government, government gets. better. >> Is that weird? >> Yeah. >> Who would have thought? And I think. >> Meanwhile, the Democrats do everything. they can do to try to prohibit those. guys from ever being interested. >> Well, and I think it's funny in contrast. to Elizabeth Warren and her letter. writing comparison to Secretary Bessant. because, you know, more than anything in.
her life, she wants Besson's job. >> She wants to be Treasury Secretary. She. has not had a lick of success in the. private sector in her entire life. And. that's the contrast between Democrats. and Republicans. >> Yeah, it's really well said. Uh you guys. want some comments? >> Always. >> All right. So, when you like and. subscribe to the Ruthless Variety. program, we always read all of them and. get back to the very next episode. Our. question of the day from last week, recall it was talking about how mom. Donnie after going to the vigil for.
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smuggles. >> Comment three is from Patrick McClendon. This is I I love this one. The Mandani. restaurant only takes reservations by. beeper. Jeez. >> Keep track of. >> That's good. >> Terror prevention there. Fantastic. >> All right, so remember our question of. the day. Is this the end for Elon Omar? And that's a question that if you all. respond to, we'll read every single one. of them as long as you like and. subscribe. By the way, thanks for the. 200,000. >> 200,000. >> Yeah, >> I've made the promise of wearing the.
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