We Ran Into Some WEIRD People During Diddy’s Trial…
[Music]. Bada bing, bada boom. I know our. episodes have been later than we wanted. them to be, and there have just been a. lot of things that have been happening. at the court behind the scenes. The. first 20 minutes of this video are going. to have no relation to the actual trial. and the actual happenings of the trial. with all the testimonies of the. witnesses. So, the first 20 minutes are. honestly just some behind-the-scenes. information on things that we've been. kind of working with. So, if that is no. interest to you, just skip ahead. I will. say though, it has been a rough few. weeks. This is our fourth time moving.
locations. One of them was completely. unrelated to the case and the rest of. the times that we've moved to different. places to stay, it's just been getting. weird and we're taking all the necessary. precautions to keep the entire team. safe. And I feel like I haven't really. spoken about any of the things that have. been happening behind the scenes. So, I. just want to fill you guys in. There has. been so much happening inside the. courthouse or right after the court or. the entire team like right before we go. into the courthouse and it's just things. that we can't really put our finger on.
And at the risk of sounding like we're. overly paranoid, I'm just going to try. and tell you and explain why I think. that we've been on edge recently. I'm. just going to paint the picture for you. This is not creepy. It's just pure. chaos. Outside the courthouse, it is a. literal zoo. Every single day I see Tik. Toks here and there of people capturing. this chaotic tornado that's happening. And it is wild how desensitized. everybody is getting to just how. incredibly messy everything is. A few. days ago, there was a man who came to.
the courthouse with this giant 2x4 plank. of wood. And he was in a rather menacing. way slamming it against the street. poles. He swung it at a reporter. Thankfully, she did not get hit, but it. was still terrifying nevertheless. And. this is actually the second time within. the span of like a few business days. that the police have been called on this. specific person. He has been around the. line for a while. He has been. consistently standing in the line to get. into the courthouse and then in the. morning he tries to sell his spot. I.
will say that this man is very intense. Our only interactions with him. personally is that he is very aggressive. and he will aggressively scream kneehow. at us and expect us to say it back. And. so we do because we're terrified. His. friend is also very intense. There was. one morning where I was going over. transcripts before the courthouse open. So I'm like sitting on the ledge of the. sidewalk and I'm going over the. transcripts. He's standing towering over. me and he's just ask he's like demanding. to know what I thought about Cassie's.
testimony. I told him I'm busy. I have. work to do. I'm like going over the. transcripts and he keeps insisting me in. a pretty threatening way. He's like. towering over me, why can't I help you? You don't think I can help you? You. don't think I'm capable of helping you? I'm telling you, I can help you right. now. And it it just took so long to get. him to finally walk away. He was. definitely erratic, unpredictable. It. felt like he wanted me to answer his. persistent questions about what I felt. about Cassie's testimony so that he. would have a reason to start freaking. out. That was a feeling. There was. another incident where a man was.
believed to be holding a pool ball. inside of a sock. So, he's like. threatening to swing it around and hit. people with it. We didn't see it. We. were warned about it. So, we like stayed. in the courthouse a little bit longer. before exiting that day. And it's the. same guy that allegedly we heard again. that he spat at a reporter. He was. screaming homophobic slurs at people in. the line. And the NYPD, they will just. take the people harassing the public and. the press outside waiting to get into. the courthouse will lead them across the. street and then send them off. They. literally just cross the street with.
them. We've seen this happen almost. every other day. I mean, I think they. can't really do anything unless someone. demands to press charges or I don't. know, actually, god forbid, gets. injured. So, that's great. Shut the up. There is heavy police presence there. The US marshals are out there every.
single day. But there are just non-stop. people unwarranted, unprompted, just. spawning out of thin air, screaming at. everybody. I honestly feel like some of. these people are coming to the. courthouse to get a fight out of their. system. That's the feeling. That's the. only way I can describe it. People are. trying to argue about pretty much. everything outside of this courthouse. I. am told that this is very New York, which we have spent some time in New. York and had a place here for a while. And it feels like every interaction, like every bad interaction I've had in. New York, amplify it times 1,000 and.
then add it all up and then I have to. relive that experience every single day. We're trying to keep to ourselves. We're. really just trying to mind our own. business. But even so, just a few days. ago, one of our team members was waiting. in the line super early, gets harassed. to the point of tears. A passer by is. cursing at her, screaming belligerently. at her, tries to snatch her phone from. her hand. We've been told that she's. been starting quite a few fights outside. the courthouse. This is completely. unprompted. She's screaming racist slurs. at our team members's face. Nobody.
cares. Nobody helps. Like people are. just standing around live streaming it, filming it, watching it. And then. afterwards, after the crazy lady leaves, the same people that were filming that. did nothing to help our team member are. now filming her as they comfort her. And. they're like trying to rub her back and. tell her it's okay. It is so dystopian. We were inside the courthouse, so we. didn't even know until after the fact. There were briefly a group of protesters. wearing free Diddy shirts across the. street from the courthouse. They were.
allegedly getting paid $20 an hour to. stand outside and wear free Diddy. t-shirts to promote the Diddy coin, which we've also received an email. about. It's like a crypto coin for. Diddy. So, there's that. There are. people seemingly thirsting after Shan. Combmes's sons when they arrive and. leave for court with one supporter, supporter of the son, not Diddy. supporter, kissing Justin Combmes on the. cheek. Which speaking of, I will say. there has been an uptick of Diddy. supporters coming into the courthouse. through the public side. One supporter.
even tries to hand Shawn Combmes a stack. of papers which Officer RZ promptly put. an end to, but there was a feudal. attempt. The the supporters staying. outside the courthouse, they've been. slightly confrontational with the press. and confrontational with a lot of others. that are just live streaming right. outside. So, that's just setting the. scene of what's been happening outside. the courthouse. Also, why is Fresh and. Fit Myron in the courtroom? Like, he was. in the main courtroom for I think at. least a few days last week. I haven't. seen him the past few days, but he could.
be in the overflow rooms. I did see him. outside while he was when he first. started coming around. He's recording. outside while a woman is undressing down. into her underwear. This is like right. outside the federal courthouse. This is. how chaotic it's been. Which, if you're. not familiar, Myin is the Fresh and Fit. Gu. If you're luckily unfamiliar with. his podcast, which I don't even think is. around anymore. He would have this. format where he would bring a bunch of. women onto the podcast. Many of them. being Only Fans models, and he just. essentially berates them for being. alive. I mean, that's factually.
incorrect, but emotionally that's what. you're going to feel from the podcast. There are at least five times I wrote in. my notebook, "Why is Myin here?" Like, I. don't know why he's here, but what's. interesting about him is he's actually. quite meek in real life. Not that I. think he should carry himself as he does. on his podcast in the courthouse, but. he's rather like he has a very soft. demeanor, softer than other content. creators that I run into in the. elevators, which is not what I expected. of him. Like, we were in the elevator. with him once and everybody's shuffling. out and we were waiting for him to leave.
and he's just like, "Oh, yeah, no, please go ahead." But like very softly. Nevertheless, that's just like painting. the picture of the chaos. There have. been a lot of incidents though that have. us feeling just weird. Right outside the. federal courthouse, there is this one. gigantic line that is filled with press. and public. You got members of the. press, you got members of the public all. in one singular line. The only way that. you can kind of differentiate is like. maybe they have on their press badge at. the time. Now, this line typically.
starts the day before. The line. sometimes starts before we get out of. court sometimes. So, the line starts. while we're inside the courthouse. Clearly, nobody can be at two places at. once. So, a lot of the press members, they will hire line waiters. And just to. give you an idea, a lot of the press. pews, yes, there's a few independent. journalists in there. A good number of. them are all with Legacy Media. And. Legacy Media has a lot of money. We're a. small team. And just to keep up, we're. having to spend about $1,000 a day to. have line sitters. actually more to just.
make sure we get into that main. courtroom to be able to give you all the. details that we really want to provide. for you guys. So, there's this giant. line outside press in public all in one. line and then right before the security. line into the courthouse, the US. marshals will come out and divvy up the. line. So, they'll make a press line and. they'll make a public line. So, it's in. order. So if you're like the fifth in. line, you might be the second member of. the press or you might be the third. member of the public and they'll just.
kind of sort you one by one depending on. the order. Now I will say that a good. chunk of the public line are content. creators. So it's kind of like a mini. press line. Also these days though lots. of supporters of Shawn Combmes that are. not part of his friends and family that. are going in through the public side as. well. And then once you get inside the. courtroom the press pews are on the. right side and the public pews are on. the left side. Recently, there have been. so many whisperings and just confusion. because there have been people, different people each time that will.
lurk around this gigantic main line. outside before it's separated. And. you'll see that in the beginning, I. think the legacy media, they're a lot. more intense about getting spots in the. main courtroom. So, the a lot good chunk. of the first half of the gigantic line. or press. There will be random people. that will walk up and down this line, primarily focusing on the press members. at the very front, and they'll act like. they're just walking up and down for. exercise, and they will be secretly. recording everyone on their phones. Now,
mind you, there are a lot of people live. streaming outside, so it's not like. they're live streaming. It's like. they're trying to be discreet, like. they're recording, but they don't want. the press members to know that they're. recording. So, it's becoming incredibly. uncomfortable. And all the press members. are trying to warn each other once they. spot someone like this. And it feels. like it's every other day that they spot. someone secretly recording members of. the press. And it's confusing because, you know, a lot of the members of the. press, these people are very impressive. producers, reporters, journalists that. have been in the industry for years. They work with Legacy Media. They're not.
the type of people that are just going. to say unhinged stuff in broad daylight. in a public setting or air out. confidential information on the side of. the street. So, it's not like you're. recording the press members saying. anything salacious or juicy or even. worth capturing on camera. It feels like. they're recording to get a general vibe. of the members of the press because. right before we go in, we might have. small small talk about maybe yesterday's. testimony or like what's to be expected. when we walk in today, who's testifying.
today. Like there's little conversations. like that where maybe you could see each. members of the press. Maybe you'll see a. little bit of their feelings about how. it's going. Maybe you'll see like tiny. bits of their opinions. Nothing. salacious. Maybe it's more like I I. almost cried when she was testifying. Like those are the types of comments you. hear. It's really not worth recording. And I say that it's been weird because. those same people that are trying to. discreetly record, they will often. approach members of the press asking.
questions about how they feel about the. case thus far. And they'll try to do it. in a very casual manner. But again, we're all warning each other that. they're recording us. I think it's been. pretty easy for my researchers and I to. tell if someone that we meet near or. outside or even sometimes inside the. courthouse is a genuinely curious person. or if they're asking a lot of strange. questions. And that's why it's so hard. to explain any of this in a way that. doesn't make us seem super dramatic. because we'll get similar questions. asked by people who we feel are. genuinely just supporters of the podcast.
or just intrigued because maybe they. themselves are trying to start social. media. So the past 2 weeks we have had. almost I want to say it's like more than. a handful. I think it's been like eight. or nine times in the past like week, not. people that we see in the courtroom. every single day. Completely new faces. that will come up to us, tell us that. they love our show, Rotten Mango, and. then they keep asking us where we're. staying, which hotel we're staying at, which part of the city we're staying at, and of course, we give them very. non-committal answers because that's a.
very invasive question to ask. Not only. that, they even ask like who's here. Yes. Oh, I'm going to get into that. So, like just to give you an idea, like. clearly if someone is a member of the. press or if it's a fellow content. creator or somebody that I see every. single day and we have some sort of. foundation and they ask me, "Where are. you staying?" It feels like, "Oh, cuz. we're all trying to get a gauge of all. the hotels nearby, which one's a good. one, which one has good amenities for. after court." But these are random. people that are like, "Hey, by the way, I love your show. Nice to meet you. My.
name is Blink. Where are you staying?". It's like instant. It's just non-stop. questions about where which hotel we're. staying at. And then if we evade the. question, it becomes what part of the. city, which area, how long does it take. you to get here? Do you Uber or do you. walk? Who's all staying with you? Is it. just you guys? Is it just you and your. researcher here? Who like do you go home. during the weekends if you're not from. the city? Do like do you fly back home? Do you take the train? Like it's just.
nonstop. What are some of these question. going to provide for this person? Like. there's no need for anybody to ask these. type of questions. And the worst part is. it's pretty clear that we're so. uncomfortable with these questions. because we'll literally be like, "Yeah, and then they'll just keep asking and. they don't some of them don't seem like. they've really watched anything from. you." Yeah. Because now like our. researchers do this thing where they. will try to have conversations about the. show and most of them have no clue what. the show is even about is the feeling.
And then this person will. just. convert just pressing and he's in the. main courtroom in the public section. He's asking us all these invasive. questions and then he's waiting for us. in the hallway during each break just. casually lingering near us the entire. day and then just rerouting every. conversation back to which hotel you're. staying at. pressing details. My.
researcher passes me a note later in the. day saying, "Look at him right now. He. doesn't even have a notebook." So, usually cuz you can't bring your phone. and you're not just like staring. I. mean, even members of the public, they're all taking notes even if they're. not content creators. Sure enough, I. look, no notebook. No notes are being. taken. Nothing. And then he never shows. up to court again. Another odd instance, this is a completely separate person. that's asking non-stop where we're. staying. We give a non-committal answer. to him. He keeps asking and again it's.
not giving that hey I'm genuinely. curious because I'm also staying at a. hotel. It's just so unsettling. We. refuse to answer. We keep laughing it. off. He keeps pressing. Later during a. break he approaches my researcher. outside while I'm in the bathroom and. then he asks her where I'm staying and. she again does not respond because he. just asked us while we were together. It. was just weird. He literally just asked. us. This has been happening like every. other day. There are other odd questions. that are asked by people that don't.
necessarily look like they even care. about the show in the slightest. So, one. person in particular asked a series of. questions trying to gauge how much quote. power I have over my audience. Like they. kept asking like, "Can you make them do. anything?" And I was like, "Do you think. I like run a cult?" I think half of them. don't even like me that much. Like, what. do you mean? What do you mean I can't. make them do anything period? But they. kept asking like, "Well, you don't think. if you say something, they would listen. to you." And I'm like, "I don't think.
so. I think they would do their own. research." And it did not seem like this. person cared at all about this show. Now, this could be completely unrelated. And in addition to everything else that. I've just talked about, and everybody's. already pretty intense, there was one. instance where we were we're walking out. of the courthouse. We run into someone. who's like, "Hey, I love your show. That's it." And then they like come in. for a hug. It was kind of abrupt. I was. a little bit taken off guard. I love. your show. Pulling me in for a hug and. my researcher snatches my arm, pulls me. back and is like, "We got to go. Our car.
is here." And I thought it was kind of. strange. So, we get into the car and. she's telling me their hand was like. elbow deep into your tote bag. It's. clear that they're looking for. something. Now, I will say that my tote. bag opening is quite large, but it's. right under my armpit. So, you would. have to attempt to stick your arm in. there. It would not be an accident like, "Oh, I'm hugging you and my hand just. ended up in this side." It's like elbow. deep. So, I mean, I guess they could. have been trying to steal my wallet, but. it was weird. There's a lot of other.
small incidents that have taken place. over the past week, week and a half. It. feels like the weirdness and the influx. of all these odd questions of where are. you staying? How much influence do you. have have increased? Especially the. where are you staying ones. I mean, I've. never had that many people ask me where. I'm staying. And maybe it's coupled with. all the chaos outside with the people. like threatening to hurt people with a. pool ball and a sock outside. Maybe it. has to do with the intensity of the case. itself and it's just all accumulated.
into this very stressful situation. But. we have been just taking a bit more time. to worry about our surroundings. Honestly, nothing really happened. It's. just, you know, when you have a gut. feeling like something's not right. It's. kind of a lot of those that have been. creeping us out and we're just trying to. stay on top of it before it escalates to. anything. We could definitely just be. paranoid, but I wanted to keep you guys. updated on everything that's going on. behind. But as of right now, nothing has. really happened. Don't be worried.
Nobody here is terrified. It's just been. weird and we're trying to be alert. We've been moving around to different. places where we stay a bit more. been. more mindful to just not come straight. back to where we stay after court. Just. taking all these like necessary small. steps and it just takes time because. it's not just me, it's my researchers, it's my whole team. We're all just. trying to make sure everybody feels safe. and comfortable and that's what we've. been dealing with more in the past week. But I think that we should be able to. get episodes up more quickly. I think we. have a really good plan in place for all. of us to feel safe and hopefully it.
works. So with that being said, let's. get into the actual episode. [Music]. We would like to thank today's sponsors. who have made it possible for Rotten. Mango to support Achievement Centers for.
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you guys know the drill. Shawn Combmes. is presumed innocent until proven. guilty. That burden of proof is the. responsibility of the government. Any. descriptions or observations regarding. Mr. Combmes's legal team, anybody inside. that courtroom are personally noted by. myself or my other researchers who are. present in the courtroom. They should. not be used as like a definitive source. on how you should feel about anybody. So, with that being said, let's get. started. In other news, I think Diddy. might know us. I don't know, maybe. So,
I'm just going to explain. The first. time it happened, I didn't even say it. in an episode because my researcher and. I are like, it was weird, but like we. could be dramatic. The second time it. happens, I'm like, wait, maybe I'm not. being dramatic. Not that it means. anything regardless, but here's what. happened and you tell me because what is. going on? Usually, Sean Combmes will do. this thing where he does a sweep of the. press pews when he first walks into the. courtroom. He's like hugging his. attorneys. He'll look to the public. side, which is on his right, and then. we're kind of diagonal from him. And he.
often times, since more of his. supporters are coming to the courtroom. these days, he'll shoot them little hand. hearts. He'll put his hand to his chest. He'll mouth thank you. And then the. press pews, we get a simple glance over. and sometimes a nod, like a quick head. down nod. Now, clearly, this stands out. to both my researcher and I really. strongly because on Thursday, we even. write the time down. At 8:50 a.m., jurors are not in the courtroom. Attorneys are doing their thing. They're. going through their documents. They're.
conversing about certain aspects of the. day. Sean Comb sits down at his chair. and he turns in his chair to the right. This is our eye direction. Like, we can. see him now. He makes eye contact with. the press pews. We're at the very first. row of the press pews. So, there's two. rows behind us. Now, he glances over the. press pews. He starts staring in what. felt like in our general direction or. perhaps right behind us and it's a. pretty lengthy stare and then he starts.
nodding while mouthing the words. dramatically. I know you. You don't hear. it. You only see the mouththing, right? Yeah. And it was clear that he was doing. it so whoever is receiving it can. understand what he's saying cuz it's not. like mumbling. He's like, I know you. like very clear. He melts it twice with. what we perceive to be a smirk. Then as. he's turning back around to face the. front, he's like ever so slightly. shaking his head while he's still. smirking. And at that point, the feeling.
was he was saying that towards you, right? Yeah. So my researcher wrote like. it looked like he was looking at. Stephanie. I wrote like, "Listen, you. know when you can like make eye contact. with someone, it feels like they're. looking at you cuz you know when you're. talking to someone and they're looking. behind you, you start like looking. behind you without even thinking about. it subconsciously cuz you're like, "Wait, what's going on? Why are you. looking behind me?" It felt like he was. looking at me, but again, I'm not trying. to be dramatic. I don't know if he was. looking at me. He could have been. looking behind me, right? But then, right at that moment, the jury comes in.
We all stand up. And as there's noise in. the courtroom, cuz we're not allowed to. talk when the judge is on the bench, a. reporter from a major media network, I. mean, she's been doing this for years. and years. She's like a professional. professional. She turns to me and she. whispers, quote, "You're putting that in. your video, right?" Cuz that was at. least 7 seconds. And 7 seconds does feel. like an eternity in just looking, but. like the the mouthing of I know you was. weird. And it was a pretty long time. Like usually when he, you know, how in.
the beginning I'm like, "This guy loves. to stare." He kind of dropped a lot of. the staring at least towards the press. But when he did stare, it was still a. little more brief. It feels like. eternity, but it's more brief. This one. was quite lengthy. So my researcher and. I, we both felt it was weird. We both. wrote it down independently in our notes. in the courtroom. We talked about it. after and we're like, "You know what? We. can't be sure. We don't want to be. dramatic." Then it happens again on. Friday, a week later. So not the. following Friday, but a week later. And. this one felt more like, okay, are we.
crazy? It feels a little more real. I. don't know. I could be wrong still. But. so Friday, we're sitting in the same. exact seats, first row of the press. pews. However, there is a row of counsel. in front of us. Now, a lot of the. witnesses, they'll have their attorneys, family, and friends. Like, that's why we. were sitting behind Cassy's attorney and. Cassy's husband. They'll sit right in. the pew in front of us. Mia, um, she was. testifying. her friends and family and. her attorneys are in the pew right in. front of us and it's packed. It's.
jam-packed. And the whole day on Friday, all the press members are complaining. about how they can't see anything. And. we're in the first row of the press. And. it was difficult for me to see sitting. like this. Like I couldn't see the. witness and the defendant. Like I could. see the witness, I could see Mia, but I. can't see the defendant that well. So I. my entire neck was crooked the entire. time. So my researcher is focusing on. the witness and her body language. And I. was like, "Okay, I'm going to focus on. the defendant then because I got to turn. my neck. We can't just keep moving our.
heads cuz we don't want to bother the. press behind us." So my head is poked. out like this. I I had to put pus on my. neck. It that's I'm trying to describe. how much my neck was turned. So on. Friday, there's this moment where. there's a sidebar. Sean Combmes's. attorneys are near the front of the. courtroom with the judge and regardless. the jurors are still sitting on the. side. Shawn Combmes turns around, but he. turns to his right. So his mom is right. behind him. It might have been easier. for him to turn left. Maybe not, cuz. maybe he's right-handed, but he does. like a full turn. So, he turns right, he.
glances over at the our side of the. courtroom. Not like our side, but where. we're sitting. And then he talks to his. mom, and then he's smiling, nodding at. her, he's like mouththing, I love you. And then my neck is tilted still cuz I'm. observing him. And I'm taking notes. about him talking to his mom during this. sidebar. And as he's making his turn. back to the front, it felt like we make. awkward eye contact. And I say awkward. to the point where I'm like, you know, when it's so awkward, you almost like.
instinctively smile or look down because. you're like, "Oh, I just got caught. staring at someone." That was the. feeling. It was like, "Oh, I literally. just got caught staring him down." and. he starts rubbing his chin with his left. hand and mouths what appears to seem. like I know you. I know you. And this. time it seemed more pronounced because. as he's rubbing his chin with his left. hand, he does like a slight index point. It's not like a point. He's not pointing.
his finger, but it's kind of like a hand. gesture like I know you. Like kind of. like you, you like almost pointing at. you, whoever you is. Then he turns to. the front and it was just so odd. And. regardless to us, not to us, it was. intense. It was odd. Maybe he's talking. about the whole press as a whole. I. don't know. Weird. So, to clarify, right, so Stephanie clearly feels like. it was really uncomfortable eye contact. along with mouthing I know you. And even.
the phrase itself, I know you sounds. really off like what does that mean? You. know me. Yeah. Okay. So even the first. time that he did it the previous. Thursday, right? Like my researcher was. a bit more firm than me and she's like, "No, he was literally looking and I saw. it." Like I'm watching from the side. And also just to clarify, I think it is. normal for them to know a lot of the. press because they're doing research. every day, seeing what everyone's. talking about. I think it's completely.
normal and we're expected of that. But. the fact that he's mouthing that feels a. little bit more intentional. Like what. does that mean? Right. Yeah. I think if. they don't know every single person in. the press pew, the attorneys are not. doing their jobs right. Especially if. he's paying that much money. I think. that they should probably know every. single person in that courtroom. Maybe. not the public, but everybody else. Yeah. I mean, you're having a lot of the. same familiar faces over and over again. And these are the people that are going. outside and telling the world what is. happening. That's maybe not on the. transcript. And so, it makes sense that.
he would know every single member of the. press, right? But it was just like I. think the intensity of the stare was a. lot. It just is an intense moment. And I. think the first time it happened my. researcher was a bit more firm in the. sense of like no he was saying I know. you cuz I thought well maybe he was. saying how are you to somebody? Who. knows right? But then the second time he. does like the finger point. So it was. just weird. And again he knows us he. doesn't know us. Does it really matter? I don't think so. But I did almost pee.
myself. Like that's all I'm trying to. say. Now, with that being said, Sean. Combmes walks into the courtroom, black. sweater. This is a different day. And. the attorneys, it's so interesting. I. feel like as the trial progresses, he. can't even hide it. His real mannerisms. are starting to show because every. single thing just reminds me of a. commanding businessman. And I'm just. going to give you like a scale of his. businessman poses. Anytime he sits and. he listens to a witness testimony, he. will have a default businessman pose.
that he sits in. And sometimes it's a. lot more pronounced than others. But. right when he walks into the courtroom, he looks like the president of the board. meeting. All the attorneys are standing. waiting to hug him, waiting to greet. him. Meanwhile, the prosecution, they. look like they're not here to play. games. Comb sits down on his chair. On. either side, he's got Nicole West. Morland standing behind him on his right. side. On his left side, he's got Brian. Steel. And they're both standing behind. him with one hand on the back of Diddy's.
chair. and they're crouched over and. talking to him. They're both whispering. to both sides of his face and it's like. two consultants going over a business. deal with the CEO and Sean Combmes is. just staring straight ahead. Meanwhile, Tenny Garagos and Mark Agniflo walk in. Combmes stands up. He pulls out Tenny's. chair for her, even helps her scoot in, which apparently she's 4 months pregnant. with her second child. Mark Agniflo also. very busy. He is the type of student. that I feel even before a test,
everybody else in the classroom is like, you know what, if I fail, I fail. He's. the one that still knows in his textbook. until the very last moment. He's not. talking to anybody. He's just studying. his notes. And to give you an idea, Judge Arun, the judge, very firm, but. he's also kind of sick of everyone right. now. For example, in a sidebar, both. sides are only allowed to have two. lawyers from each side at the sidebar. with the defense team because they have. practically a whole football team of. lawyers. They always consistently have. more than two lawyers that go to the.
sidebar. And maybe Mark can see that the. judge is getting annoyed because he. mentions to him, "I know you have a two. lawyer rule at the sidebar and I know. we've been breaking it, so I'm guilty.". And the judge just says, "Well, it's. like who wants to be a millionaire?" You. get a few lifelines, but you're running. out and it's going to be a very intense. day. The next witness on the stand is. Capricorn Clark. Everybody has been. anticipating her testimony considering. she's the one that has claimed she was. kidnapped by Shan Combmes. I mean,
that's a lot to unpack. Capricorn Clark, she walks in looking so casual. Like a. lot of the other witnesses, they've come. in very well-dressed, very well. refreshed. They don't look happy, but. they look like they're ready for a. fight. They look like they're ready for. battle. They look like they're ready for. testimony. They look like they're. prepared. Capricorn Clark walks in and. she looks like this doesn't even look. like Monday at her work. This feels like. a Wednesday after a crazy taco Tuesday. Like that's the vibe. Her hair is tied.
back. She has on these giant eyeglasses. that cover half of her face. She doesn't. look like she has much makeup on. She's. wearing a white shirt, super thin, and. uh a pinstripe skirt. What's interesting. is if you actually look at photos of her. leaving the courthouse, she's not. wearing that same outfit. She's actually. wearing a pinstriped vest and nothing. underneath. So, it's like a tank vest. and you can see her belly button. It's. cropped. You can see the tattoos on her. arm and it's a perfect match with her. skirt. I don't think the prosecutors. liked that. So, someone gave her a long. sleeve white t-shirt. Oh, when she.
walked in, someone made her change. It. seems like it. I don't know if it was. the prosecutors or her own council or. maybe it was one of her friends. I don't. know. But someone was like, "Maybe you. should wear this." So, someone changed. her out of the the vest. Yes. Okay. Cuz. you could see tattoos. You could see a. lot of shoulder, which I mean it's. court, right? I guess no shoulders. And. you could see her belly button, so I. don't know whose shirt it is. She walks. in and you can just I think the minute. she walks in, you can kind of tell that.
she's already going to have a very. interesting testimony because she just. looks like she is not very prepared for. the testimony. And it seems like. everybody else is very prepared for the. testimony. They've talked it over with. counsel. like this is something that. they knew and they were anticipating was. going to happen. Capricorn Clark looks. like she's already crying on the way to. the witness stand. Like she looks very. relatable in the sense of like because. same I would also be a wreck. That's. what it feels like. Now Combmes is doing.
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[Music]. Now, we did a quick sweep of some old. gossip blogs just to get an idea of how. this was going to go. Capricorn Clark, if you knew about the music industry, well, if you knew some of like the more. figures in the music industry, so not. just, oh, this celebrity, this artist, this musician, but their managers, their. assistants, their staff, their. personnel. You would probably know. Capricorn Clark. She was Combmes's. assistant and manager of his clothing.
brand, but she's also friends with. celebrities like Rihanna and ASAP Rocky. She seems a bit like a socialite in her. own right. That's how people talk about. her in these gossip blogs. But out of. nowhere, someone that has always been. with Shawn Combmes, she suddenly gets. fired. And so all these gossip blogs, like 10 years ago, they start. speculating, why did she get fired? Why. did she get fired? There's rumors that. she was fired for stealing from Diddy. He shut those rumors down. There were. rumors that she was having uh intimate. relations with Diddy and then Cassie.
found out. Those were later shot down. It's just so much is happening with one. post from 2014 on a gossip website. reading Old T. But I heard Diddy brought. Cassie into the bedroom with Capricorn. One gossip blog enthusiast writes in. 2015. She and Cassie developed a very. close bond like sisters and Capricorn. started noticing that Diddy was. rejecting Cassie's music to keep her. under his thumb. This is in 2015. So Cap. would tell Cassie that she could do. better and Diddy didn't like that. So he. would start telling Cass that Cap was.
the one leaking bad stories about her. and that whenever Cass wasn't around, Cap would belittle her. And eventually. Capricorn quit. So that's what they're. hypothesizing is why Capricorn is no. longer in Diddy's circle. But now. Capricorn's Instagram is private. Her. bio just reads, "Nothing to see here. Everything not saved will be lost. Tell. the truth. Shame the devil." with a lot. of people thinking that Shawn Combmes is. the devil. Because even around the time. of Cassie's lawsuit, there was a tweet. that has since been removed and her ex.
has gotten private. But Capricorn Clark. allegedly tweeted, "Don't take the path. of the wicked. Don't follow those who do. evil. Stay away from that path. Don't. even go near it. Turn around and go the. other way." Another one she adds, "Doors. be unlocked. You got to be willing to. walk away from the money. Full stop. 2011 was hell. Tragic kingdom." She also. does another one that's more clearly. aligned with Shan Combmes. Black women. end up being the sacrifice. For the last. 11 years of my life, I had to deal with. everyone's nonsensical allegiance to the.
devil. They will skin you and wear you, baby girl, and then pretend that they. never wanted your skin. Kim was the only. person who didn't switch up. The only. one. Dark times. I'm personally very. triggered. I pray it's over. I never. deserved this. Stop. #protect blackwomen. IRL #RIP Kim and it's a picture of her. and Kim Porter. Wow. So clearly she has very strong feelings. and she starts off the direct by giving.
some background. She says that she's. always been in the music industry. She. interned at Def Jam Records which is a. massive music label. Then she was with. Death Row Records with Suge Knight which. is Bad Boy Records constant nemesis. This is the origins of the Tupac and. Biggie rivalry. She also mentions that. quote, "My mother died and then shortly. thereafter my father died." And this is. like 2 seconds of her taking the stand. She's already about to cry and she. sounds like she's crying already. And. some of the defense attorneys look at. each other like, "What the fuck?" I. guess that they don't like the instant.
going into sympathetic territory. I will. say that Capricorn Clark is probably the. most Okay. Well, second top three most. captivating witnesses. I mean, she just. talks in a way where I feel like you. just know everything she's saying. She's. probably oversharing. That's the. feeling. You feel like she's going to. get very messy on the stand. But maybe. it's good because it makes her feel very. transparent. Even when she's asked to. identify combs, she closes her eyes.
dramatically and she's like, "Blue. sweater.". It was like a nearly black, very dark. navy blue sweater. So, everyone did kind. of look at each other like, "Wait, are. we sure?" But yes, no, she's very. intriguing. She sounds like a smoker, has a very raspy voice, and she sounds. like she is two seconds away from. sobbing with every question. It's not. like she's 2 seconds away from being. emotional, so she's getting choked up. It sounds more like, you know, when. people sob and it's more of like. audible, like it sounds like she's 2.
seconds away from that. She mentions. that she works with Death Row. Then her. very next job is Bad Boy Entertainment. with Shawn Combmes in 2004 as his. personal assistant. And it's a bit of a. switch considering she didn't just work. for Shawn Combmes's nemesis and. competitor, Suge Knight. They're. actually very close in some respects. Capricorn's best friend has children. with Suge Knight. So, it's very. complicated. What? And right off the. bat, prosecutor Steiner is coming in. asking all the questions. And Miss. Clark, I want to direct your attention.
to December of 2011. Were you working. for Mr. Combmes at that time? Yes. So, I'm trying to and again like. because you only get the transcript and. I feel like it's very hard to understand. why the jurors might have different. receptions to different testimonies and. a lot of it is so much in the delivery. and the voice and the tone because I. think a lot of the times it conveys. whether or not you believe this person. So, if I'm just like reading the. transcript, it's like she says yes,
right? But in reality, it's more like. yes, like it's very like raw. You're so. beautiful. A thank you. What occurred at. that time? I was kidnapped. So the. jurors, they immediately start taking. notes. They look back up and Combmes is. very still statuesque. Generally, what. were your duties as a personal assistant. to shadow him from before he wakes up. until he releases me at night? Which. even just the way she words things is. very interesting. Like what do you mean. he releases you at night? She explains.
that after working as his personal. assistant, she quits and then comes back. a little while later to work as the. director of marketing for Shan John. Women's and then the global of Shanzhan. women's and then later she comes back as. Cassy's manager or like the creative. director for Cassie. And so when she's. asked about Shan John, she says it's a. new tentacle from the master brand of. Shan John's that I was in charge of. And. again, everyone's just taking notes. And. meanwhile, Cones is still just staring. right ahead. His mom walks in late. during the direct testimony, he doesn't.
even notice. Everybody is so absorbed in. Capricorn Clark's testimony. Capricorn. is shown pictures of a few of the. security guards for Combmes. And it's. interesting because even when she's. looking at the pictures on the evidence. screen, she looks like these security. guards are about to jump up and attack. her out of the screen. Like she looks. scared to look at the screen. She's like. wincing and kind of glancing at the. screen. And she is very descriptive. She. likes to give her like put her arms out. to describe people's statures. She says. D-Rock is a bit more he's about 6'3 6'4. more slender very solid I would say.
quarterback running back type of body. and Paul Offford that everybody calls. Uncle Paulie he's the head of security. for Shawn Combmes can you please. describe his general appearance quiet. stoic a bit menacing physically he looks. like a linebacker there's a picture. admitted into evidence and is this. picture how Mr. offer typically looked. No, what's different? He doesn't have. his um glasses on, his uh blacked out. sunglasses that he wears 100% of the. time. Capricorn Clark testifies that on.
the very first day of the job working as. Comb's personal assistant at like 9:00. p.m. It's dark outside of New York City, Shawn Combmes and Uncle Paulie take her. to Central Park. Capricorn says Shawn. Combmes tells her, "I had no clue that. you had anything to do with Suge Knight. when I hired you." This is her first day. on the job. And he basically says to. her, according to her, if anything. happens, if you do anything to, I guess, mess Shawn Combmes up or give. information or intel to Sug Knight, quote, he would have to kill me. Marklo.
during this entire direct testimony is a. whack-a-ole. He's constantly standing. up. Objection, judge. Sustained. Miss. Clark, what was Mr. Combmes's demeanor. when he threatened that if anything. happened, he would have to kill you? Calm. How did you perceive his threats? Very serious. Why is that? I felt like there was some. gravitas to the fact that he might have. had issues with Shuge. How did you react. when Mr. Combmes threatened you? And she. starts sobbing and her voice gets very. high pitched. She's like, I said, we'll.
just have to see. That's the tone. And. it seems very emotional, like she can't. even hold it back anymore. Yeah. It's. like she's starting to get very. emotional. And this is like still early. on, right? It's like 3 minutes in. During this, Combmes is very stoic. He's. sitting still, but his head is kind of. cocked to the side a tiny bit. Meanwhile, Capricorn Clark is sitting. there, and she seems very anxious. She's. moving around non-stop. Mark Agnif keeps. jumping up out of his chair to object.
everything. And the prosecutor asks, "What do you mean by that?" I meant that. there was nothing I could do in Central. Park to convince him that I was a. trustworthy person. And I wrote down in. my notes, you know, when someone is. drunk and emotional, I not I don't think. she's drunk at all. I think she's. completely sober, but just to give you. an idea of her tone, like when someone. gets very drunk, they get emotional and. they start talking, it almost becomes. like a kid. Do you know what I'm trying. to explain? So, it's more like there was.
nothing I could do to convince him that. I was a trustworthy. It sounds like like. when you're drunk and you're trying to. like explain something as you're crying, as you're emotional, but you're a little. drunk. So, it sounds kind of like that. And how does that make like the jurors. feel when there are a few jurors that. never seem that intrigued by anyone? Even during Cassie's testimony, I felt. like they would rather be anywhere else. on this planet. Like, they seemed. honestly, I don't want to use the word, but they seemed bored. Like, a few of. them. I think most of them were very in.
tune and taking notes, but a few of. them, they just look bored every single. day that I'm there. During Capricorn's. testimony, they're jotting down notes. like passionately every single one of. the jurors because the emotion is so. raw. I think Cassy's testimony, a lot of. the words she says evokes emotions in. people, but when she says it, most of. the time she does not convey a lot of. emotions. She's saying it matter of the. fact. This is how I felt. This is what.
happened. Capricorn Clark, you can't not. feel her emotions because she feels it. so heavily. So like when Stephanie came. home that day, like she was saying, "This is one of the most like impactful. most impactful testimony." I think. everybody felt that way because here's. the thing that everyone kept saying. about Capricorn Clark and like this is. the best way I could phrase it. A lot of. people said she's just captivating. My. feeling is if you don't already believe. her, you want to believe her because of. how transparent she feels. She just. feels like a mess. Like a friend that.
you're like, "Oh my god, you're kind of. a mess and I want to help you." Yeah. So, she's like crying. I knew that I. didn't have anything to do with any of. that stuff that he possibly could have. had. Objection, judge. So, Mark is just. non-stop objecting to everything. Capricorn explains that she still worked. for Combmes after the Central Park. threats because she felt like, yeah, maybe I could have been more transparent. about telling him that I worked for Suge. Knight prior to all of this, but there. were just other alarming things that. happened during the course of her. employment. There's this one time we.
were at MTV. He was doing MTV press with. 50 Cent. And after the interview wrapped. up, myself, Puff, and Chris Lighty, which is 50 Cent's manager at the time, got in the elevator. So 50 Cent is not. in the elevator. It's her puff Chris. Lighty, which is 50 Cent's manager. What. happened in the elevator? Capricorn is. explaining that Combmes had an issue. with 50 Cent. She doesn't dive much. deeper into it, but if you watched our. previous four-part series, you know that. 50 Cent is amongst a long list of, you. know, he's got a lot of career.
accomplishments, but he is also a. professional diddy hater. He also has. recently discovered AI generated images. and how to produce them. So, he's just. been spamming the feed with AI generated. pictures of him in court wearing free. Diddy shirts. Regardless, Capricorn. Clark says Puff told Chris because they. were having some sort of issue. Like, I. don't really like all this back and. forth. I don't like that. I like guns. What was Mr. Kums' demeanor when he said. that he liked guns? Very serious. During. the testimony about 50 Cent, Diddy looks. over at Marko, who asks him a question.
Did he purses his lips like a duck and. just nods slowly? I don't know what that means. Is he. confirming like, "Yeah, I did say that.". Like, I don't know. Meanwhile, 50 Cent. will later take to Instagram to write, "Cut, cut. Wait a minute. Puffy's got a. gun. I can't believe this. I don't feel. safe." Frowny face. Lol. He's responding. to this testimony. Yeah. But it does not. get better from here. Capricorn Clark. says within a few months of working for. Combmes, she gets accused of theft.
She's had the job for a few months, and. she gets accused of stealing very. expensive, high-end jewelry that was on. loan from Jacob the jeweler. So, this. isn't even Shawn Combmes's jewelry. A. lot of celebrities will get loaned big. pieces for events. She says it was a. diamond necklace with a cross, diamond. bracelet, and a diamond watch. Miss. Clark, had you stolen the jewelry? I did. not, but it was in her possession at one. point. Combmes gave it to her for. safekeeping cuz she's the assistant. They're traveling to Miami. She's to. keep it safe. And on this travel, like.
before they even get on the plane to go. to Miami, she realizes the jewelry is. missing. What did you do when you. realized that the jewelry was missing? I. told the driver to stop the car and I. called security and I told them to lock. everybody in and search them. She tells. Combmes that the jewelry is missing and. he's telling her, "Okay, well, I'm going. to head to Miami for the event. You go. back home to your place with Uncle Paul, the head of security, with the blackout. sunglasses." She goes back to her house. in Queens where Uncle Polly starts. questioning her about the events leading. up to the jewelry being missing. And. then he starts searching through her.
entire house. She says, quote, "He went. through my belongings. He went through. my common areas. I had a roommate and he. just searched. He didn't find anything.". But he tells her he's going to be back. tomorrow. Like, we need to figure this. out. The next day, Capricorn says Uncle. Polly comes to pick her up and he takes. her to 1710 Broadway, which at this time. was being converted into the new Bad Boy. Entertainment headquarters. But she did. not know that at this point. She just. knew that when she walks in there, the. whole place looks like it's under. construction and abandoned. They walk in.
through the glass doors, her and Uncle. Paulie. She says that someone she. doesn't know comes and locks the front. door behind them from outside the. building like you would lock your house. from the outside. That's crazy. They. walk in. She says the building is just. quote dilapitated. She says post move. out, post premove in, the floors weren't. even really done on the levels we were. on. The floor wasn't done. There was. like old pieces of like, you know, permanent fixtures around that were sort. of taken out. It's pretty much a gutted. building. They go up to the sixth floor.
and it looks similar, dilapitated. Floor. isn't done, nothing built yet. Some old. built-ins and quote, "There was a 6-ft. folding table with some chairs in the. middle of the room. And there's another. person there." So now it's Uncle Pauly, Capricorn Clark, and this gentleman. who's sitting there waiting for them, which Capricorn describes as heavy set. gentleman who was chain smoking. cigarettes, and she'll like do hand. motions and drinking black coffee. Can. you describe the individual's. appearance? Very wide, very heavy,
looked like the size of two. linebackers. He wasn't tall. He didn't. stand very much either. So, Uncle Paulie. is a linebacker. This man has two. linebackers. When you say size and. width, he was very large. Yes. Can you. describe this man's size relative to. your own? Capricorn looks at the. prosecutor. Then she turns to the jury. and it looks like she's trying to think. in her mind like, how do I describe. someone's size to a whole group of. people? And she just goes for it. Five.
of me across. I mean, he was very wide. Some of the jurors, they're doing like. full teeth smiles and giggles because. the way she's delivering the information. is so again, she's like looking at the. jurors and she's. like the five of me, like very wide, like very descriptive. It's a pretty. goofy moment in light of how serious. everything's been and depressing in this.
courtroom. I mean, just the way that she. like stands with her arms out, it's a. lot. then we're not used to that. The. only person not amused naturally is. Shawn Combmes, who just [ __ ] his head. to the right. Nevertheless, Capricorn. Clark and Mr. Two linebackers are left. alone. Uncle Paulie leaves and Mr. Two. linebackers, whom she states she never. learns his name. He tells her that she. has been brought to this building so. that she could take a lie detector test. to find out what happened to the. jewelry. What if anything did he say. would happen if you did not pass the. test? He said, "If you fail these tests,
they're going to throw you in the East. River." And she starts sobbing. The. minute those words come out of Capricorn. Clark's mouth, the jurors are jotting. down notes. Combmes looks around like. he's looking at like, "Hello, why is. someone not saying anything? Hello, what's happening?" And then finally, Agnif stands up. "Your honor, I'm going. to object. Move to strike the last. answer. Can we approach for a second?". During the sidebar, Combmes is leaning. his elbows on his armrest, using his. right hand to touch his chin. He seems. very.
pensive, just sitting there. Meanwhile, Capricorn is up there. She's like she's. got these giant aviator eyelasses and. she'll like lift them up and wipe her. tears and then push them back down and. she's like fidgeting with them and then. she'll do this very animated sigh where. her shoulders go all the way up and then. she slumps it down and then she uses the. tissue to wipe her nose. I feel like if. anybody else had done that, it would. come off performative and fake. But I. don't know why when Capricorn Clark does. it, you're just like, I don't even know.
her, but it feels genuine. Like that's. the message and image that I think the. jurors are getting and you feel for her. Like I think everyone did. Everyone in. the press pews was like she might be one. of the more gripping testimonies. because of how you can relate to her. She just feels like a normal girl that. just got thrown up on the witness stand. just way in over her head and she's kind. of a wreck. Meanwhile, at the sidebar, Mr. Agnif is very stressed. There's no.
indication that any of this is coming. from the defendant. I we don't even know. who this man is, which even if it is to. be believed, I'm not here to quarrel. with that at this point. There's nothing. saying that Mr. Combmes wanted any of. this to happen. So, it's unduly. prejuditial. So, I think for that. reason, we object to it and we move to. strike it. She's with this unknown man. who is giving her a lie detector test. And that connection between that man and. Mr. Combmes is just non-existent at this. point. The judge does not agree. He. rules, I don't think that's a fair. characterization of the testimony, but I. understand your argument. Objection is.
overruled. After the objection, prosecutor Steiner goes back to asking. Capricorn about what it was like to take. this lie detector test in this. dilapitated building after being told. that she's been thrown in the East River. if the results are bad. Capricorn says. they strapped her up to some quote stuff. to your chest and then strap some stuff. to your arms and then they ask you a. series of questions over and over and. over again. What types of questions were. you asked? Did I steal the jewelry? Did. I come up with an idea to steal the.
jewelry? Did I plan with somebody to. steal the jewelry? Had I ever stolen. from him? Just a lot of stealing centric. questions from him. Was that Mr. Combmes? Yes. Did this man tell you the. results of the test? They said that they. were. inconclusive. What if anything did the. man tell you about the results being. inconclusive? It's like, I'm not getting. a good reading. You need to calm down. You're going to be in the East River if. I can't get a good reading on this. And. she kind of sounds again like the drunk.
panicked voice. And again, I'm not. insinuating that she's drunk. She's like. completely sober. And I think the reason. that her testimony resonated a lot with. the jurors, at least from the perception. that I saw and like even the people in. the pews, is that like the words she's. saying are sad and you can like resonate. with the sadness of like, yes, if I were. in that situation, I too would be. panicked, right? You can resonate on. that level. But on a secondary level, she's incredibly likable in a sense of. like it's not just overwhelming sadness.
It's like you almost like want to give. her a hug cuz it's like oh my gosh like. what is happening right now. Like it. just feels very relatable. I don't know. how to put it in a way that doesn't. sound like I'm minimizing her testimony. because I'm not at all. It's just in the. sense of like you feel like she's your. friend. The way that she communicates. feels like she's a friend and now your. friend is telling you some of the worst. stuff that's ever happened to her. So. you almost resonate on a deeper level. Mhm. She feels like she's just telling.
you like exactly what's happened and how. it made her feel. There's no intentional. like let me tell you in a sophisticated. manner. Let me tell you in a way where I. think you'll understand. She's just like. saying as she's feeling it is what it's. perceived as. Winnie told you to calm. down. How had you been reacting in that. moment? I couldn't calm down. I wasn't. doing a good job at calming down. So, she's very passionate. She has a way of. sounding incredibly honest and she. sounds just honestly relatable. I hate.
that word, but I don't know how else to. describe it. The whole time she's. sniffling, wiping her tears. Mind you, she keeps pushing those giant glasses. up. She's lifting them to wipe her. tears. Meanwhile, Combmes is just. stoically looking ahead with very little. movement. The jurors are rapidly taking. notes. And here's the interesting thing. to note. All the jurors notes are. naturally kept in the courthouse. They're collected every single day and. given back at the start of each court. day. But at the very end after the. verdict, notes are permanently.
destroyed. So they're writing in their. notes. Capricorn is telling them as. they're taking their notes that she was. there for a full workday that Monday. They're intermittently all day taking. the lie detector test, taking it. We. weren't allowed to leave. The door was. locked from the outside. She did not. attempt to leave the building because. she says I was there to prove my. innocence. At the end of the day, Uncle. Pauly takes her home and he tells her. that they're going to do this all over. again the next morning. And they do for. the next five days. She said she's doing. a nineto-five getting a lie detector.
test all week long. Why did you continue. to go with Mr. Offford, Uncle Paulie, to. the building? I wanted to prove my. innocence. I didn't like the threats. I. felt like it was the only way to prove. that I had nothing to do with it. I was. in a different headsp space. I was just. trying to survive it. She says that she. never tried to reach out to law. enforcement for her 5-day lie detector. marathon because she worked under an. NDA. She didn't even think about calling. the cops. And after those 5 days, Uncle. Polly just tells her, "Yeah, you're. going to go home." Next Monday, she just. goes back to work. Sean Combmes acts.
like nothing ever happened. Nobody ever. did find the jewelry. It didn't make. sense for Capricorn to quit because. she's saying I mean I felt like if I had. left it would have been written off as I. had stolen it anyway and then likely she. would never be able to work in the. industry. Now side note during the. entirety of the lie detector testimony. one of Com's closest friends who's known. him for decades. He's been inside the. courtroom every single day sitting in. the friends and family pews and he's. falling asleep. And I really try to. focus mainly on jotting down notes on.
everyone's reactions to things rather. than getting absorbed in my own personal. reaction. But that was kind of. interesting to me because sir, is that. like a normal Tuesday? Like have we just. all gone through lie detector test? Like. the way that he was because I'm thinking. if I'm sitting there and there is a. woman on the stand spewing lies about my. childhood best friend, would I not be. like awake and this is crazy? But he was. falling asleep. He was like fully in. rum. Now, Capricorn has asked, "Generally, what hours were you required. to work as Mr. Comb's personal. assistant?" Probably start the day at.
his townhouse at 74th and park at 9:00. in the morning and finish at Daddy's. house or wherever we were sometime. around 4:00 a.m. Daddy's house is the. studio, not like daddy's house. She says. that she would get no breaks throughout. the day for basic needs like eating. On. a good night, getting 4 hours of sleep. On a bad night, 2 hours of sleep. And. this is probably putting it very. lightly. Two of Shawn Combmes's other. former assistants testified and this is. how David James, he was another former. assistant. He describes it. And side.
note, there is a really weird skit of. David James and Diddy that I'm going to. put in the video because maybe it gives. you an idea of like his tone of voice. and stuff, but it's about Diddy being. allergic to [ __ ] ass disease. It's. David. I'm here to go over your schedule. for the day. How do I know you haven't. been infected with the [ __ ] ass's. disease? You were supposed to be here an. hour ago. I know, sir, but I got stuck. in traffic trying to get here from the. studio. Excuses. First sign of [ __ ]. assesses. Did you bring my iPod with you. for my run this morning? I think I forgot it, sir. Let me go get.
it right now. David has been infected. with the [ __ ] assnesses disease, which. don't be a [ __ ] ass is, I guess, the. end statement of the video. David James. walks into the courtroom. Dave James was. before Capricorn. Yeah, days before. Capricorn. He seems less prepared in the. sense of like not the answering of the. questions, but he walks in and it's like. a restaurant. He's kind of waiting for. the hostess to guide him to the witness. seat is like what it feels like. He's. just awkwardly staring and it's just. uncomfortable. And in court, he's asked,
"Generally speaking, Mr. James, what. were your responsibilities as a personal. assistant for Mr. Combmes? How long do. we have?" He just starts listing. everything he needed to do. Make every. environment for him comfortable so he. could perform his duties. there was a. lot of organization of his personal. items traveling around the world with. him. Basically, be at his right-hand. side wherever he was. So, what you want. to do is you have to arrive at his house. before he wakes up in the morning. It's. important that you set the environment. up as soon as he wakes up so he's able. to have a successful day. So, that would.
be to compile different documents. One. of those documents, we have a folder on. the table that would be everything that. he needs to approve from a business. perspective. If there is a certain. artwork for an album he's doing, certain. advertisements he has to approve, there. would be a file of business documents. and next to that would be his business. schedule for the day that he would have. laid out. We'd also have a folder for. all the press clippings for any news. mentions of Mr. Combmes in the last 24. hours. So like this man knows everyone. in the press pews. Like you can't tell. me he doesn't know everyone in the press. pews. He just seems like he's intrigued.
by the press on him. Okay, which I'm. just saying. But more on that later. Continuing on, I would turn on the TV. for him to his preferred channel and I. would work with the chef to make sure. breakfast was getting started. And then. I would knock on the door to get the day. going and get his feedback as to if he. was ready to wake up if we needed to. make adjustments to his schedule. From. there, he would wake up and we would. wait for him to be done with his. breakfast. We would call down his. security to let them know that Mr. Combmes is getting ready to move out for. the day. And we would travel around the. city, especially New York City. Then. it's dinner, which he later notes it's.
pretty standard for Combmes to have a. 3-hour dinner. Then it's studio for work. on an album. quote that would take us to. about 3 4:00 in the morning and then. from there we would either go back to. his personal residence or to a. destination of his request and we would. get a call time at the end of the night. It was important that I didn't leave his. site until I got the call time to know. what time to be back tomorrow. I would. text the executive team, his security. staff, and let them know what time I'd. be back for tomorrow. Once I got that. call time at like 4:00 a.m., 5:00 a.m. Yeah. So, generally, what were your. hours? I would say my hours would start. 30 minutes before he woke up until he.
gave me that call time at the end of the. night, which could be anywhere between, you know, four in the morning to 8 in. the morning. Wow. How many days per week. were you on duty? Depending on the. personal staff at the time, um, some. days it would be 6 days a week. There. were times I worked 3 weeks straight. When we had more executive staff, I. would work sometimes 5 days a week. All. of that. And David James was paid. $70,000 a year, which side note, it. seems that Mr. Combmes is very. particular about how he likes everything. done. Another former personal assistant. that testified, George Kaplan, he says.
he has to make sure all of Combmes's. toiletries in his bathroom are facing. forward. And the process of making sure. all of these little things and. adjustments were made before he wakes up. would take at least 30 minutes. Now, back to the press part. There was one. incident where David James says he was. off that day, but still at the Combmes. residence. I was sitting at the computer. in his office. I was working on a. research project for Mr. Combmes. He. wanted to get new tattoos. So, I was. looking up different options for him. He. entered the house at the time. He had. been at the club with Miss Ventura, another assistant and security. As soon. as he entered the door, he belineed.
straight towards me and he came right. over to me, looked over my shoulder, asked me what I was doing, and I said, "I'm doing a research project for you, sir." He told me that someone was lying. on him, and someone did a blog post that. somebody hit Cassie, and he looked at my. browser history to see what websites I. had been visiting that night. So, he was. following gossip blogs, too. Did he was? Yeah. And then he comes home and he's. like, "Are you the one that wrote the. gossip blog?" and he's like checking the. browser on David James' history. David. is like, I did not. It was jarring. He'd.
never done anything like that. Now, side. note, I did find the old gossip post. I. think this is the one that they're. referencing, but it reads, according to. a reliable source, did he beat the [ __ ]. out of Cassie for talking to another. guy. He pushed her to the ground and. kicked her in the face. And this is not. the first time he's hit her. Details to. follow. David James says that during his. interview, Vasha, the senior VP of human. resources, pointed to a picture. this is. before he's even hired. Pointed to a. picture of Shawn Combmes on the wall and. she allegedly tells him, "This is Mr. Combmes's kingdom. We're all here to. serve in it." It was very intense.
There's a whole multi-step interview. process where at the end, David James is. asked by Shawn Combmes why he should be. hired. And he tells Mr. Combmes, "I. can't stop. I won't stop." And he said. that at that point, Shawn Combmes was. nodding his head like, "Yeah, I like. that." David James also mentions in his. direct that he was given a lie detector. test after a Cartier bracelet went. missing and he says that Uncle Polly. came searched his things, did not find. anything and then gave a lie detector.
test. At this point, Combmes passes. another note to Tenny Garagos. He rests. his arm on the armrest and then he's. like watching for her reaction as she's. reading his little postit in the. courtroom. It's weird. Sometimes he does. that. He'll like watch the attorneys. react to his post-it note and then I. always wonder cuz you know like does the. attorney react or say anything or like. they'll give him a nod and then. sometimes like I think he wants them to. pass it to the person doing the cross so. then he'll like kind of motion for them.
to like hello. It's very interesting. Yeah, he's definitely heavily involved. Like these attorneys are not running. their own defense and he's just their. client. like he's calling a lot of. shots. Often times, even during cross-. examinations, they'll say, "One moment, your honor, and then the attorney that's. doing the cross- examination will go. talk to Diddy, come back and say, "No. further questions.". So, it's interesting. Now, David says. that he took two lie detector tests. during his time working for Combmes. He. says, "I was invited to what almost.
looked like a government building. It. was kind of a tall skyscraper. And I met. with a gentleman who said he was a. former FBI lie detector detector. And at. this point, the whole courtroom laughs. Is it funny? No. Are we just like full. of tension? Yeah. He's like, lie. detector detector, I guess you could. call it. And um he was like the most, you know, special specialist lie. detector agent in America. Who told you. that? The gentleman did. The lie. detector detector. Yeah. And again,
everyone giggles again. It was very. intimidating. I don't know if you've. ever taken a lie detector test before, but you basically sit in a chair where. they monitor your movements. They put a. heartbeat monitor on your chest. I. believe they put something on my head. and something in my hand. The lie. detector detector tells him, "You know, Mr. Combmes does not like people who. steal. That's like one of his big. things." And he basically told me we had. to get rid of the rat on the team. He. takes the first for the missing Cardier. bracelet, the second one for a Jacob and.
Co. watch. Also, Combmes seems super. paranoid, if not already evident by the. copious amounts of polygraphs he. allegedly forced everyone to take. But. David James states, "Every time they're. in the car, if Mr. Combmes had a. Mayback, he would want to have a second. car to his right. That way, someone. couldn't pull up on him, for example, and try to assassinate him or shoot him, which is how Biggie died." So, he would. always follow him around like security. detail. Who would a second car? Yeah. Like, is is he driving the second car? So Combmes would be in the first car and.
then the second car would be filled with. staff. So David James would probably be. in the back of the second car. Wow. And. Combmes was never without security. detail. Honestly, this whole thing just. sounds like the worst job on the planet. They said the motto at the Combmes. Enterprise Company was what rhymes with. tired fired. All of this in Capricorn. Clark is just getting paid. $65,000. She states on the stand while. working for comb she developed a medical. condition called alopecia. Side note, very odd timing, but right at this.
moment, Sean Combmes takes out his. retainer out of his mouth. Like he has a. retainer in his mouth and he just fully. just like slobber and all takes it out. of his mouth, puts it on the table. He. like wraps it in a napkin. Oh, what is. alopecia? It's a stress induced. condition where you get bald patches on. your head. Capricorn says that she went. to HR at this point to tell them, "Hey, look, quote, I'm working basically 24/7. and I'm not making enough money." and. she sat with me to calculate my. overtime. Vashta from HR, the same Vasha. Dunlap. Okay. And they go to calculate.
Capricorn's overtime. She comes back. with this giant sheet of paper and tells. Capricorn and now Sean Combmes who's. sitting there, you know, she said that I. was owed $80,000 per 3month period in my. assistant era. How did Mr. Combmes. respond? Wait, she's owed? Yeah, for all. the overtime. She's owed $80,000 by Sean. Combmes. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. And uh. how did Mr. Combmes respond? He ripped. up the paper. She was not paid the. overtime. Instead, Shawn Combmes would. seemingly make her sit through life. lessons where he would sit a bunch of.
women down that work for him and work. with him once in the kitchen of his. massive LA mansion. What did Mr. Combmes. discuss with you at that time? He was. discussing with us why we didn't have a. man like him. What did he do? He said, "Let me show you something. What did he. do next?" He called Cassie over and he. asked her to sit down, stand up, turn. around. And she's like using her hand. She's full into this. Turn the other. way. We'll walk over there. Grab that. Hand me that. Walk back. Turn back. Go. back to the other room. What did Miss.
Ventura respond? She did it. She. followed each of his instructions. Yes. And after Miss Ventura left the room, what if anything did Mr. Combmes say? He. said, "Did you see that?" He said, "You. [ __ ] don't do that. That's why you. don't have a So anytime she does Sean. Combmes's voice, she's like fully in. it." M. So she's like, he said, "Did you. see that?" He said, "You [ __ ] don't do. that. That's why you don't have a man.". To which we said, "You're [ __ ]. right." And the jurors are giggling.
Meanwhile, Tenny Garagos looks over at. Mark Agnifo. She looks disgusted. Her. mouth is slightly a jar, like shock. I. don't think that she's looking disgusted. at her client, per se. I think she's. trying to con I don't think she's trying. to convey anything in her reaction. And. I think her reaction is like, I can't. believe she would make up such a wild. lie. Now, do we think it's a wild lie? I. mean, I guess that's up to you, but. that's what Tenny is showing Mark. The. jurors don't see it because they're all. smiling. Like just the way she said,
"You're mothering right was like a lot. Like the whole I think we didn't even. know how to respond." Yeah. Eventually, Mark requests a sidebar where Combmes. turns around and says, "I love you." to. his mom. And she melts, "I love you. back.". There's just a lot of like tongue. movements. I don't know how to describe. it. And again, I don't know if this is. even worthy of including in an episode, but I'm just trying to see like all the. things that we've noticed and like we. have like my researchers and I have all. noticed similar things and we've almost. like coined different terms for it. Like.
you know how everyone says Mark. Zuckerberg is a lizard? I feel like. maybe all billionaires are lizards. A. few members of the Combmes family have. very interesting mannerisms with. utilizing their tongue. So Sean Combmes, he will lick his lips. And when he licks. them, he does them so quickly. And he'll. like stick his tongue out and do like. three licks of his lips very rapidly. And we always try to understand when and. why he does it. And if it's just his. lips are dry or if it's like a something. else, I don't know. And then Christian. Combmes does this thing where it seems. like when he feels defensive, he kind of.
sticks his tongue out of his mouth to. the side like. I see. But it's always in very specific. moments. So, I think we're just trying. to understand what those moments are. And then even when his mother is saying. like she very dramatically says I love. like her tongue almost touches the tip. of her nose when she says love and love. Wow. Yeah. And we both wrote it down and. I thought maybe I'm like paying too much. attention to random stuff, but my. researcher and I were cross referencing. notes and we're like, "Oh, that was kind. of intense. I don't think it means.
anything." I mean, it seems like his mom. really does love him. He blows kisses. She smooches the air. Meanwhile, Mark is. very busy at the sidebar. This is. becoming just a wholesale character. assassination. I'm not sure what many of. these things have to do with the. charges. The judge tells the prosecutor. to move on with the line of questioning, but I think the effect on the jury is. already kind of done. I've never seen. the jurors more engaged in Capricorn's. testimony. She just has this way about.
herself. Again, the best way I described. it to my husband when I got home after. the testimony was, "If you don't already. believe what she's saying, you want to. believe what she's saying because she's. just so emotionally transparent that you. cannot fathom someone could make this. up." Like, for example, even listening. to her is just fascinating. When she's. asked about what Mr. Combmes did when he. received €100,000 for a club appearance. in Europe, she just responds like. crinkling her eyebrows. She looks at the. prosecutor like, "What kind of dumb.
question is that?" And she goes, "Keep. it?" And they're like trying to ask, "Where did he keep it?" But she's like, "Keep it? I don't know." So, it's just. very real. Capricorn goes on to detail. that Shawn Combmes likes to throw phones. at people when he's upset. He would do. that often. That's like his thing. And. he was not just violent with Cassie, he. was also violent with his staff, including Capricorn Clark. She says. there was this one time in his mansion. on TwoStar Island in Miami where he. sends Capricorn on an errand, Farel.
Williams, who was a music producer, now. the um he's Louis, you know who he is. Yeah. His manager came over and was. dropped off by boat cuz this is an. island. Everybody has like a boat. driveway on Two Star Island or on Star. Island. And so he's dropped off by boat, but then he has to go to another island. where Fel Williams is shooting a music. video. So Mr. Combmes is like, "Hey, Capricorn." And I say Mr. Combmes, sorry, because the prosecutors call her. Mr. Combmes. Um, Sean Combmes is like, "Hey, Capricorn, go drop him off at the. other island." She hops in the boat with.
him, drops him off, but then she decides. to stay on that island for like about an. hour hanging out. An hour into it, she. gets a phone call from Shawn Combmes, he's like, "Where the [ __ ] are you?" And. again, when she is doing Shawn Combmes's. like quotes, it's very intense. And like. all the jurors, they're engaged. What. did you do after you got that call? I. went back to Star Island. What, if. anything, did Mr. Combmes tell you when. you return to Star Island. He said, "See, your problem is you want a life. and you can't have that here?" And then. she's just like wiping tears, you know? So the next morning, Capricorn wakes up.
She goes to the kitchen to get some. breakfast. I was making my plate. The. chef was there. She was tired. I asked. her where the turkey bacon was, and she. said, "There is no moreing turkey. bacon." She was very upset from a long. night. And I just said, "I hate it. here." And then the chef walks outside, quote, to where Puff was standing on the. back deck and told him what I said. It. exacerbated her. He immediately looked. at me and he said, "You hate it here?". And then he charged at me. At this. point, she's holding herself in a hug.
while she's telling this story. When you. say he charged at you, can you describe. what he physically did to you? He ran. towards me with his hands open and like. pushed me by my shoulders and she's. using her hands to like motion. and he. started pushing me back. In what. direction was he pushing you? Out. Out. towards the front entrance of the. kitchen through the butler's pantry. Approximately how far did he push you? About 25, 30 yards. The jurors are. incredibly engaged. Even Sean Combmes is. taking down notes. And how was he.
pushing you? Just to make sure the. record is reflecting the witness with. open hands. Open hands like right on my. shoulder like you know. And she shows. again the top of your shoulders. What if. anything was Mr. Combmes telling you. while he was pushing you in this way? He. said, "You hate it here. Get the [ __ ]. out of my house. You hat it here. Get. the [ __ ] out of my. house." Yeah. And he repeated it until. we were outside. Can you describe the. amount of force that Mr. Combmes was. using when he was pushing you? I would. say like 75%, I never fell. I kept.
catching myself. Eventually, Uncle Polly. comes to tell her to pack her things, and she does. And then she leaves. But. she comes back to work for Mr. Combmes. again. And this time she says she only. came back because her role was not his. personal assistant. It was as his global. brand director for Shaun John. So he. told her specifically he's not going to. interact with her as much and that's the. only reason she came back. He was very. impressed with her new work when she was. gone. So at this point she signed with a. record label. She was managing Sierra's. newest album and R. Kelly's newest.
album. At that point she says Puff was. very impressed with my work and was like. I'm starting a woman's line. you. wouldn't have to work directly with me, but you can work for me and it'll be. something right up your alley and it was. paying more than Samba Records was. She. also worked closely with Cassie. I was. your creative director and manager. And. in 2011, she became more close with. Cassie. She starts learning that she's. dating Kid Cuddy, Scott Mscotti, which. she kind of admits put her in a tricky. situation because she can't tell Combmes. about the relationship obviously. But.
one day in particular, Cassie sends. Capricorn a text. And this is where it. all started kind of making sense. Remember I was like why is Brian Steel. asking Kid Cuddy about exercising? She. says quote I was picking Cassie up one. day. We were going to Run in Canyon. which is a place in Los Angeles where. you hike and she asked if Kid Cuddy. could join us. Cassie texted Capricorn. How did you react when you received that. text message? Not well. It was a bad. idea. I responded. I don't think we. should go to Renan. There's too many. people there. If he comes we need to go.
to Fryman Canyon. Delete this text. combs lizard licks his lips a little and. then slightly shakes his head whilst. kind of turning to the jurors like you. see that like they're all plotting to. cheat like it it felt very like I've. been wronged type of headshake. Why did. you direct Miss Ventura to delete the. text because that's the second. everything got so tricky when she texted. me. Mr. Combmes paid for my phone. She's. texting me on the phone he pays for on a. phone he pays for. It's not a good idea. After what happened, did Miss Ventura. change the way that she communicated.
with Mr. Mscetti? Yes. I took her to. Best Buy to buy a burner phone. So, she's saying she's the one that bought. the burner phone. Why did you take her. to Best Buy to buy a burner phone? The. way she was moving, she was going to get. us all killed. Oh, Mark stands up. I'm. sorry. Sustained. Before he even says, "Objection." Sustained. The jury should. disregard the witness's last answer. At. this point, there's kind of an awkward. laugh in the courtroom because it's like. we all expected him to jump up with an. objection, right? like Capricorn really.
just be saying things. I'm not saying. like saying things as in they're not. true. I'm just saying like no filter. truly saying everything on her mind. Everybody knew that these objections. were coming. Now the day that Capricorn. Clark is kidnapped is the same day that. Kid Cuddy's house is broken into and. it's all connected. So remember the same. day Scott Mscotti Kidu gets a call from. Cassie that Combmes found out about them. and she gave him his address. So he. picks her up and they go to the Sunset. Marquee. with Capricorn at the same. time. She hears banging on her apartment.
door. She wakes up, runs to the. peepphole, and she sees quote a very. upset puff. He was pacing and she like. does the motions. He was moving around a. little bit. He was just anxious. I could. tell, but he was furious. That was. evident. Can you describe the movement. of his body outside your door? He's. pacing and the body language looked like. he had something in his hand. Why do you. say that? Can you describe what you. observed? Just like the body language, I. could see his shoulder. It was like. something in his hand. He was moving in. his hand. I mean, I couldn't really see. the people all the way down to his hand,
but the body language was giving me like. he's holding. something. The way that Capricorn is. acting it out again adds a lot to our. credibility in my opinion. It's just. very descriptive. Like, you really see. everything that's happening. Meanwhile, Sean Combmes is sitting in the. courtroom. Absolutely. Still, why did. you open the door for Mr. Combmes? He. was upset. Part of my job is to make. sure that the name and liking likeness. is okay and he's outside my door. I. just, you know, I got to be like, "What. is this? Can you describe Mr. Combs?" At.
the time, his pants were gray and they. were split open from knee to knee. through the crotch so I could see his. underwear. Kind of like, you know, like. assless traps, but it seems not to have. been on purpose. So, like it's cut at. the inseam. It came like this or someone. cut it open. You could buy pants like. this, but I don't think this was on. purpose. I think it ripped. Maybe in a. fit of anger or something. Oh, his pants. ripped. Yeah. Huh? Did you notice. anything in his hand? A gun. And she.
says it like that. And what did Mr. Combmes tell you once he was inside your. apartment? He said, "Why didn't you tell. me?" And I said, "I don't know who. you're talking about." He said, "Who is. Scott?" I said, "I don't know any. Scott." What did he say? What did Mr. Combmes say after that? He said, "Kid. Cuddy." I said, "Oh, Cassie's friend.". Then he just says, according to. Capricorn, quote, "Get dressed. We're. going to go kill. this." At this point, the jurors and. combs, they're all taking and jotting. down notes passionately, and it's just.
like the way that she's doing his voice. and like her, it was a lot in the sense. of like I think people are receiving her. testimony. Well, when Mr. Combmes. directed you to get dressed, how did you. respond? I don't want to go. How did Mr. Combmes respond when you said you don't. want to go. He says, "I don't give a. [ __ ] what you want to do. Go get. dressed." I'd never seen anything like. this before. He had never come to my. house in the entire time I'd known him. I've never seen him with a weapon. I've. never seen him making me do something. like this. Combmes is done taking notes. He puts his pen down on the table, leans. back all the way, crosses his legs, and.
he's about to put his arm right elbow on. his armchair rest and bring it up to his. face. This is his like rank 10 business. move. This is like full businessman. He. likes to sit like he's watching someone. present, like an intern present a new. business deal, but he stops himself. So. then he takes his arm off the armrest. and just sits cross-legged cuz I think. it's not a good look. Yeah. Yeah. Did. you make any attempt to escape your. apartment? I did not. Why not? The way.
he was acting, I just felt like anything. could happen. I'm going to object, judge. Okay, let's move on. Miss. Steiner. Capricorn says she's forced to. get dressed. They leave her apartment. So, it's Rube, who is Reuben, another. security detail. He's actually Drock's. little brother. But anyway, he's in the. driver's seat of the Black Escalade. Combmes hops in the back with Capricorn, and she's back there, and he now has his. gun on his lap as they're driving. through the Hollywood Hills to get to. Kid Cuddy's house. What, if anything, did Mr. Combmes and Rube do after he.
arrived at Kid Cuddy's home? They enter. the house. Capricorn says that she. stayed in the car, but she couldn't. leave. Why were you not able to leave? I. probably could have left, but I didn't. What were you afraid of if you left? Mark Agnifo whack-a-ole. Hughes back up. Objection to the leading sustained. What. did you observe Mr. Combmes and Rube do. on the property? Fidget around trying to. gain access and then they gained access. What if anything did you do while Mr. Combmes and Rube were on the property. out of the car? I called Cassie. Capricorn says that she was just waiting. to call Cassie on her burner phone to.
warn her because she didn't know if. Kiduy was in the house. She has no clue. that he's already with Cassie by this. point and she's freaking out. And what. did you tell Cassie when you called her? Kessie, what the? And I asked her like. where she was at. What if anything else. did you tell her? I told her that Puff. came, got me with a gun, and brought me. to Kid Cuddy's house to kill him. When. she says, "Brought me to Cuddy's house. to kill him," Combmes looks over at. Mark, waiting for him to pop up with an. objection, Mark looks at him and does a. small shake of the head and does not. object. H Yeah. When you were speaking.
with Miss Ventur on the phone, did you. hear anyone else on the phone? Yes. Who. did you hear? I could hear yelling in. the background. What did you hear? I. heard someone say, "He's in my house.". Like, she literally does it like that. And I said, "Who is that?" She said, "Scott." And I could hear him running. out. And I said, "Cassie, stop him. He's. going to come get himself killed." And. she was like, "I can't." After they hang. up the phone, Combmes comes out and. wants to see her phone because he saw. her hanging up. Capricorn, being smart, had put Cassie's burner phone number as. another friend of hers, Stormmy, who is.
also, I think, shares children with Sug. Knight, but besides the point, Stormy. But that's not good enough because now. Combmes is asking to see her phone. He. calls back the last number I was. speaking to. And what did he say when he. called that number back? What the number. is this? And how if at all did Mr. Combmes react to Cassie having or Miss. Ventura having a new number? Wait, so he. called it back and he found out it was. Cassie? Yeah. Oh my god. And Capricorn. says he's livid more so than already.
What if anything happened after Mr. Comb. spoke with Miss Ventura on your phone? We heard a very fast-moving engine. coming up the hill. Out of the corner of. my eye, I could see that it was Cuddy. Puff looked at my face. I guess I gave. him a visual cue that it was him. And he. goes, "There's that right there. What. happened next?" Cuddy pulled up next to. the Cadillac Escalade, came to a. complete stop, looked, and then took off. and sped up the hill. Puff and Rube. jumped in the car and we started chasing. him. How long was the chase? It felt. like forever, but it couldn't have been. longer than a minute. Cuddy lost us. We. turned south down Laurel Canyon. We.
heard sirens and we passed the police. They were headed north on Laurel Canyon. We were headed south on Laurel Canyon. Were the police headed in the direction. of Mr. Mscotti's residence? They were. Capricorn says this is when Combmes. finally starts to calm down. They drive. to the Key Club, which is at the bottom. of the Hollywood Hills. Uh for people. who lived in LA, it was formerly known. as One Oak. I think it's the Key Club. now. I think that's what she also said, but One Oak was like a big thing. Yeah. And they're in the parking lot of One. Oak or Key Club. And they don't get out. They're just in the parking lot because.
she's saying like there's no service in. the Hollywood Hills which also valid. So. they come down and they're just using. the phone and it's just Rube the. security Combmes and Capricorn and. Combmes is telling Capricorn to get. Cassie on the phone and quote he told me. to tell Cassie that he has me and he's. not going to let me go until I get her. He has me. He won't let me go until I. come to you. To which Cassie said, "Okay, come get me." They get back to. Combmes's house and Combmes tells. Capricorn once you get Cassie you guys. need to go tell Cuddy and convince him. not to tell the police that it was me. Did he tell you anything else? He says,
"If you guys don't convince him of that, I'll kill all you mother in the. courtroom." Combmes visibly starts. shaking his head back and forth. Capricorn explains that after they get. to his place, she gets into the work. car, picks Cassie up from the Sunset. Marquee where Cassie and Capricorn head. to Kid Cuddy's house, and convince him. not to tell the police that this was. Shawn Combmes. And then they get back to. Shawn Combmes's residence. Now it's. maybe 11:00 a.m. It's been like this all. started at like 6:00 a.m. What happened. after you and Miss Ventura entered the. home? Puff was standing there in a robe.
in his underwear and he immediately. began kicking. Cassie 100% full force in her legs to. begin with. She was facing him to start. and he kicked her in her in her thigh. and in her leg. He kept kicking her. He. never used his hands. Comb starts taking. notes in the courtroom. The jurors are. also taking intense notes. And you said. he kept kicking her. Was he kicking her. more than once? Yes, he repeatedly. kicked her and she just kept with each. kick she would crouch into a more of a. fetal position. And as Miss Venturo was. crouching more and more into a fetal.
position, can you describe where she was. physically located outside? By now, we. were in the courtyard of his home, just. like outside the vegetable. Every time. he kicked, she moved back. And every. time she got kicked, she moved back. And. approximately how far did Miss Ventura. get moved back from the kicks? Couple. steps each time. and in total all the. way to the street maybe 20 feet. And by. the time she reached the street, can you. describe what her body looked like? She. was all the way on the ground in a full. fetal position and crying silently. What. was Mr. Combmes doing to Miss Ventura in.
the street when she was on the ground. and in a full fetal position? Kicking. her where? It was her back, her. backside. She was on the ground. He's. kicking her. Capricorn says she and Rube. the security were both there and she's. freaking out. And Rub is calm and. Combmes tells Capricorn he said if I. jump in he was going to up too and she's. like sobbing at this point. She said she. didn't intervene because I'd never seen. him do anything like that and I was in. shock and in my heart I was my heart was. breaking seeing her get hit like that.
and like the way I'm delivering it is. not the way she deliver like she's full. sobbing like she's a wreck. I'm going to. object your honor. Objection is. sustaining. The jury should disregard. the last sentence of the witness's. answer. What if anything did Rube do to. intervene? Absolutely nothing. Who, if. anyone, did you contact after you. observed that Rube was not intervening? I called Drock. So Drock is Rub's older. brother and he was on the security team. longer. I said, "Tell your brother to. stop him." What did you explain to Drock.
what was happening? That he was kicking. the [ __ ] out of Cassie. Capricorn. reaches for a tissue and starts rubbing. both her eyes. Like she's not rubbing. them like they're she's sobbing. Like. you could see it's like just streaming. down her face. Did you contact anyone. else aside from Drock? I did. Uncle. Paulie, did you contact any I didn't Why. did you contact anyone aside from Drock? I didn't see Rub's phone ringing. Meaning like Drock is not calling his. little brother. What did you inform Mr. Offford? Same thing. I said, "Paul, he's.
kicking the [ __ ] out of her." And help. her. And she starts like fully choking. up. Combmes is completely stoned. What. if anything did Mr. comes tell you after. you made these calls. He said, "Matter. of fact, you get the out of my house.". Did you leave his house on foot? Yes, I. walked. She takes off her glasses now. Like her face is completely soaked in. tears. Who, if anyone else, did you call. when you left the property? Regina. Ventura, Cassie's mom. What, if. anything, did you inform Miss Ventura? I.
told her mom. I said, "He's beating the. [ __ ] out of your daughter. I'm in over. my head." And she starts like really. choking up. Please help her. Like it's. like a whining so like please help her. Like that's the best way I can try to I. can't call the police and then she does. it again. Like but you can like please. help her. It was it was really rough to. listen to. I think everyone was having a. hard time because I think it was just I.
think a lot of the testimony so far in. the courtroom the emotions don't sink in. as quickly because even Cassie's. testimony aside from the few times she. was very emotional everything she says. is matter of fact and then like you're. so busy trying to understand where we. are in the timeline and then it's like. once you get home it soaks in and then. you like you feel a little heavier, right? But in this, it's like all you. hear are her sobs like echoing in the. courtroom and it's so hard not to like h.
like like a lot of people are like. wincing after that call. Miss Clark, did. you call the police? I did not. Meanwhile, Comb's head is cocked to the. left. Why didn't you call the police? The mission of the day was not to get. Cuddy to involve the police. So, that. was certainly counterintuitive. The. prosecutor pulls up an email we went. over during Cassie's testimony, the one. from December 23rd, and the prosecutor. asks her to read it out loud. and it. sounds like she's being held hostage to. read it. She's just constantly wiping. her tears. It's the one that Cassie. writes to her mom and Capricorn Clark.
about all the threats and that the might. be released. She says later the arson. investigator would reach out to her. about Kid Cuy's car and she just did not. want to talk to him either. She said, "I. just wanted this whole thing to be over. and that was just going to make it. worse." She's sobbing out loud. It. sounds like she's almost underwater. Following the incident in December of. 2011, "What if any questions did Mr. Combmes ask you about Miss Ventura's. relationship with Mr. Mscotti?" He asked. the same thing, "When did I know about. it? Why I didn't tell him?" She says.
that he was very, very angry and he. said, quote, "I should kill you and I. should cut her face." In the courtroom, Combmes slowly closes his eyes and. shakes his head no towards the jurors, almost giving like, "This is absurd. How. frequently after this incident in. December of 2011 was Mr. combs making. threats to you approximately how many. times? I'd say once we got to December. of 2011 into that summer. I would say. 50. She does mention that she told the. CEO of Bad Boy Harve Pierre about it to.
which she says he just says that's crazy. but it's going to be okay. Capricorn. says he also tells her that she. Capricorn and Cassie can't really be. friends anymore that they can only. interact for work. Now, there are other. parts of her testimony that were cross-. referenced with other testimonies, and. it seems like Cassie was not the only. one that was participating in freakoffs. I know that in our part four-part series. that we did before the trial even. started, this was in 2024, there were. allegations online and rumors.
circulating that Kim Porter was also. part of the freakoffs. David James, the. other assistant, says that he was part. of the hotel setups. He called it. advancing the hotel. So, you go in. advance and you make sure it's ready for. combs. He says in New York City, for. example, if he asked me to advance a. hotel room, I'd go back to his. apartment. I'd get like a Jordan. sweatsuit, fresh pair of underwear, some. socks, some slides. I'd also bring a. toiletry bag and I would bring the iPod. speaker base. And then next to the Trump. Hotel, which he loves, there's a Dwayne. Reed there. And I'd go get there like a. few different food items, applesauce,
jello, Fiji water, and then we'd always. have some Sorak vodka and simply. lemonade as well. I have a bartender. full time that just stands here and. makes me my favorite drink. You take 1. and 1/2 oz of Sarak vodka, 3 oz of. lemonade, shake it. up. That cool, refreshing drink. Side note, while David is listing out. everything Combmes likes, Combmes is. sitting there like nodding ever so. slightly like, "Yes, okay, checking off. the list." Like if someone is recounting.
your grocery list to them, that's the. vibe. David James just continues, "Basically everything that he may need. He didn't always use these items, but I. was always taught to provide everything. just in case he needed something. That. way, he wouldn't need to call you later. on. He also needs his infamous Louis. Vuitton med bag and that he always. carries." According to David, also. $10,000 in cash, sometimes more. When. describing the med bag, David says, "There were probably 25 to 30 different. pill boxes or pill bottles. Some of them. were unmarked, so I was not familiar. with what they were. Some were just like.
Advil, Tylenol. He had water pills to. make him lose weight. He had a Viagra in. there. He had some pills that helped. increase his sperm count, for example. He had ecstasy and percoets in there as. well. Side note about those extills, he. says there were various kinds, but one. in particular that stands out is quote, "It was in the shape of a former. president's face." Which former. president? President Obama. Yeah, that's. crazy. The prosecutor asks David, "When. you set up these hotel rooms, did Mr. Combmes stay in these hotel rooms alone.
or with others? I don't think Mr. Combmes ever stays alone. Who did he. stay with? His girlfriend at the time, mostly Cassie, but other women as well. There is an odd moment in David James'. Cross where Mark Agnif starts asking. about all of the traveling and all of. the advancing of the hotel rooms. And he. David James goes into a whole ketchup. monologue when they travel to London to. the United Kingdom. Ketchup Hines 57. ketchup like they needed that. I don't. know if this is what he's saying. I. don't know if you guys have ever been to. London before, but the ketchup in the UK.
is not similar to the ketchup in. America. He would not be happy. I mean, ketchup was a big item that he always. needed for his food. So, it's just a. consistency to create a consistent. environment. So, during this ketchup. rant, Combmes is just like smiling and. happily nodding along and everybody's in. a lighter mood, but then it goes from. ketchup to applesauce. Side note, he. eats applesauce on his cheeseburgers. Like, he eats applesauce with a lot of. things. Then the conversation goes from. ketchup to applesauce to astroglide and. baby oil. And at this point, I think. Combmes is uncomfortable with the sudden.
emotional shift because he raises his. hands at the mention of baby oil. He. rubs them in his lap like he's putting. lotion on, but then he like realizes. it's weird cuz he's not putting lotion. on. So then he puts them in prayer hands. and then he leans his head forward, presses his forehead into his fingers, and then moves on. It was just like a. very odd set of movements. It felt like. he was instinctively rubbing his hands, but thought it would be perceived weird. So, he carries out the rest of this. awkward set of.
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effects? And what did those belongings. include? Clothes, toiletry bag, and. camera bag. Camera box actually. Camera. box. It was a silver like at the time it. was a silver like 45 record carrier. repurposed and it had three click in. like three point andoot cameras and one. small mini DV camera. Was there anything. else in the camera bag? A small bottle. of baby oil and a small bottle of loop. What if any lighting was used in the. hotel? No lighting. We brought his dip. candles. That was that. She says that on.
every single hotel trip with Kim Porter, they would have to bring that camera bag. 100% of the time. What if any. responsibilities did you have after one. of Mr. combs his hotel stays to pack up. his belongings and sweep the room for. anything that might be left behind. What. if any damage did you observe in the. hotel rooms after his stays? Just baby. oil. At the Intercontinental, I would. see like handprints in oil on the ultra. suede walls. Yeah. How frequently did. you observe damage from baby oil in the. rooms? Frequently, but it was a lot like. it was just a lot of baby oil. It was.
just everywhere. It wasn't necessarily. only on the walls. And if he would, which woman would he bring to hotels. most frequently at the time? Kim Porter, Cassie. Ventura. This entire part when Capricorn. is talking about freakoffs with Kim. Porter. The kids are not there. Sean. Combmes's mother is there and she's just. frozen just listening. Later, Capricorn. says she was ultimately fired for not. applying properly for vacation time, but. she thinks it's probably cuz she kept. mentioning all the threats. And what do. you recall Mr. Combmes in these. discussions following your termination?
That I would never work again? that he. would show me that all these people. weren't my friends, that he would make. me kill myself. In the courtroom, Combmes scratches his left cheek with. his left hand, just like scratches his. face. This is the interesting part. Later, Capricorn is asked if she reached. out to Combmes's attorneys, and she says. yes, in which a settlement is reached. But this was in her um previous. termination, wrongful termination. So, she quit, got terminated, and rehired so. many times. But on one of the occasions, she did get paid. So, she's asked by the. prosecution under the terms of the.
agreement, approximately how much were. you paid for? I'm going to object, judge, which is so fascinating because. if anything, the defense has been so. passionate about women who receive money. from Shan Combmes. They've been very. passionate about the figures and. passionate about the demands that were. made and suddenly they do not want. Capricorn to release how much she. settled for. There's probably a few. reasons for it. probably one because it. was such a low amount that it would.
probably make the jurors go, "Wow, that's actually crazy." And two, there. was a rumor that Suge Knight was on a. podcast and he said the money to pay. Capricorn Clark, that settlement money. was done by Innercope Records. So that. would add to Rico racketeering. Like it. would make it very messy if a settlement. for this type of behavior is paid by a. company. Now, there's a quick sidebar in. which Combmes puts his chest in the air, and this is really awkward. So, he like. stretches his chest up as he's sitting,
and then his arms are reached bent at. the elbows like he's doing a bench. press, right? It looks like he's just. stretching, but he has this very awkward. moment where he just like kind of pumps. his fist twice and then he stops. And I. think like the I think he felt awkward. doing it. It just felt weird. Maybe he. wanted to do a bigger movement or maybe. he realized this is not a movement he. wants the jurors to see. He stops. himself. It's just weird. Meanwhile, Capricorn Clark is sitting there super. emotional. Sean Combmes's sister and the. person next to her are giggling perhaps.
about something unrelated. I don't know. They're just in the pews giggling during. the sidebar. Mark argues during the. sidebar. So, the objection, I don't know. the amount. I don't know that the amount. is relevant. And I mean, I would say. it's unduly prejuditial. I mean, I don't. intend to get into it. I don't know how. it advances the relevant issues in this. case, what the settlement was for. Again, interesting. But they get back. and the prosecutor makes sure that. Capricorn state she has no pending civil. litigation against Combmes. She's. received no other compensation aside. from that. But she's also asked why did.
she keep going back to work for Shawn. Combmes. I wanted to try and get my life. back. She says that she was unable to. obtain any other work. She says she did. get civil attorneys in 2023 after Cassie. filed a lawsuit and she was upset about. it. Did her complaint reference you? Not. at all. I was traumatized because it did. not reference you. Is that what you're. referring to? She did not mention me at. all. Did there come a time when you met. with Mr. Combmes's attorneys in April of. 2024? I did. Now, side note, the.
attorneys that she met with are Mark and. Tenny Garagos. Wow. And during that. meeting, did you inform Mr. Well, what. did you inform Mr. Com's attorneys? That. I wanted my life back. And did you. discuss what had occurred during. December of 2011? I did. What did you. inform his attorneys? I told them that. he kidnapped me and I went through the. events of the day. Your honor, I'm going. to object this as hearsay, which is. actually interesting cuz they were the. ones at the meeting. The prosecutor. asks, "Miss Clark, were there any.
discussions about you working in some. capacity again for Mr. Combmes's. companies?" There was. And just. generally what was discussed like what. would it what would it look like like if. I came in as chief of staff got him up. out of there put him in rehab so that. somebody that was around in the. inception of a lot of the business deals. would be back in place. Did you hear. from Mr. Combmes's attorneys again? No. The direct is finished soon after and. the judge starts to speak. All right. So.
this is a good time for us to Mr. Agniflo stands up like he's wound up. like a spring. Can I start? And then can. we have a break? Unless we all want to. stop now. Whatever you want to do. Well, we're taking a break, which is what I. was doing. And then we'll come back. Oh, okay. I I'll take a break, too. Thank. you. Members of the jury, we will take a. short break. It's 11:14. We'll come back. at 11:40. All rise for the jury. As. everyone is leaving the courtroom, Brian. Steel starts rubbing Shawn Combmes's. back. During that break, Combmes and his.
mom are just like having full mouthing. conversations. Everybody is ushered back. in. Capricorn is ushered back in at the. end of the break. Combmes has his right. elbow on his armrest and he's got his. fist up in the air and he kind of. hammers it into the air three times. It's weird. It's like I didn't know what. that was. That's the feeling. And then. the cross-examination begins. Mark Agnif. takes the stand and immediately he. starts talking about the setup of the. conference table when they all met in. 2024 cuz Capricorn met with him and. Shawn Combmes was there. He's drawing. the picture. Even Combmes is looking at.
him, mouth slightly at gape, just. blinking his eyes. And Mark's whole. point is how during the meeting in 2024, Capricorn asked Combmes to come back to. work as his chief of staff, which. Capricorn states, "Yes, she did bring. that up." And tell me if this is right. What you said was, "You've always been. able to take care of him." I don't. recall saying that. Okay. Do you. remember saying he wouldn't be he. wouldn't be in this mess had he kept me. around? And then she looks at the jury. and said, "I probably said something. like that." Yeah. So, I think Mark is.
again trying to prove a point, but she's. just so honest. She's like, "Yeah, I. probably did say something like that.". During cross-examination, especially. when they're working in his favor, Combmes loves looking towards the. jurors, so he's doing that a lot. And. you said, "Tell me if this is right. You. said you didn't think that Miss Ventura. was good for Mr. Combmes." Correct. And. you believe that? Correct. Okay. Do me a. favor. Tell the jury in your words why. you think that's true. I just felt like. they were toxic as a couple. At one. point, Mark says he's going to call.
Shawn Combmes puff because that's what. Capricorn is comfortable with. And the. judge is constantly like this has. happened multiple times. The judge keeps. saying, "No, we're going to call him Mr. Combmes." Okay, judge. Uh, that ends. that. We're going to call him Mr. Combmes. Why does he want to call him. Puff instead? I guess it makes him more. and then I think the timeline, a lot of. the jurors look like they would be from. the era that Shan Combmes was Puff or. Puffy. Versus I feel like my age, everyone. knows him as Diddy. Mhm. I see. And like. the older groups know him as Puff Puffy.
And then that's all just make him sound. a little bit more relatable to them. Now, there's a few other notable. moments. Mark Agnif wants Capricorn to. tell the jury about Capricorn's. friendship with this woman named. Janette. To which Capricorn is very, again, this is why I think her testimony. comes off very wellreceived. Is even. during the cross, she comes off so. suggestible. Like Mark is telling her, "Tell the jurors." And they say that a. lot during the cross- examination. It. just means say it out loud. Which she. will literally turn her body towards the. jurors and start explaining her.
friendship like she's doing the. icebreaker at work. So Mark will tell. her, "So tell the jury about your. friendship." She turns to the. jurors. I'd moved to New York. I was. working in advertising. Um I was living. in the Bronx. Hated the Bronx. My friend. Janette, I met her through a mutual. My. roommate had a girlfriend and they were. friends and then we kind of got closer. and then the girlfriend because they. were vegans and whatever, whatever. So. me and Janette, we formed a friendship. and she would like she went out a lot. She was like a popular New York City. lower east side girl New Yorker and she.
would hang out with different people but. she would often hang out with Mr. Combmes and would invite me and then. just sort of like start hanging out us. three as like a little friendship group. Even during the cross it's hard to not. like her. Right. Okay. So it's likable. It's very very likable. It's it feels. like you kind of almost want to protect. her. It's like, oh my god, this whole. front area of attorneys, the. prosecutors, the defense attorneys. I. mean, these are all sharks in the water. Like, these are polish. Yeah. And you.
just want to be like, oh, okay. Don't. wait. Can you stop oversharing like you. want to almost protect her in a sense? Another time he's telling her, quote, tell the jury that story of how she. starts working for Combmes again. She. turns her chair completely. So, I was I. was working in advertisement and then. September 11 happened and then I went to. a film company called Crossroads. Awesome people. They paid off my student. loans. They were great. And then I put. my resume on Monster. It was like a new. website at the time where you could.
upload your resume, you know, similar to. I guess whatever the ones are now. So, like she's a very like she's talking to. the jurors like best friends. Mark also. tries to ask her if Combmes was doing. drugs when Capricorn met him. Meaning, was he using drugs at that time in his. life? But Capricorn hears, "Was he doing. ecstasy when you met him?" Not when I. met him. No, I don't mean at the time. I. mean, in that time peri Yeah. Yeah. In. that time period. And I'm trying to Do.
you remember telling Mr. Combmes that. you had a crush on him? Even going back. to when you were friends? No. All right. I'm going to just ask to show the. witness defense exhibit 946. This is. just for the witness in the parties and. if we can blow it up. Can you read that? Is that big enough for you? Yes, I can. see it. And she looks at it and it looks. like Capricorn is looking at a picture. of a UFO that landed on the tippy top of. the Eiffel Tower. She looks. flabbergasted. Even Sean Combmes is. glasses on, booty scooched to like the. edge of his chair looking at the screen.
like where's Waldo? It's a text message. thread between Capricorn Clark and. Combmes with Capricorn texting Shawn. Combmes. Totally unrelated to our. current conversation, but did you ever. know that I had the biggest crush on you. before I started working for you? We. hung out all the time. I played it super. cool. Janette might be the only one that. knew. I don't think you knew. I couldn't. tell if it was mutual. I just knew for. sure that we liked that you like to have. me around. We called you Chuck, short. for chocolate. I was just thinking about. them nights before everything. So nice. Great memories 20 years ago. Time is. wild. Do you have any memory of that at. all? I really don't. No. No. So before.
you worked for him, am I right? You. liked him. Forget about crushes for the. time being. You liked him. I liked him. as a friend. You liked him as a friend, right? Yes. As a friend. Yeah. I'm. sorry. I'm going to have to keep doing. that to you. Like it's so interesting. because I feel like in any other witness. cross-examination, this might be like an. aha moment. But for Yeah, but it doesn't. feel like that at all. Like even the. email reads like Capricorn Clark. Like.
she just seems like the type that says a. bunch of things when she feels it and. then doesn't feel it anymore. Like she. seems like that personality. So it. doesn't feel damning even in the. slightest. H So like whatever uh Mark is. trying to do is not working on her. No, not at all. After this slightly. embarrassing perhaps moment, instead of. letting Capricorn put her guard up, Mark. Agnif is doing the best he can. He's. he's pretty good at crosses other than. his filibustering. It seems like he. talks to her about working at Def Jam.
and he references like back when like. run DMC type thing like all back that. far or not that far not that far. I'm. not that old sir. So like everyone. giggles and Mark is giggling and he says. well I am and he's just making her. comfortable again. She states I'm more. foxy brown red man method man Jay-Z. days. Got it. Got it. Even during the. cross, Capricorn is a likable witness in. the sense that nothing feels like a. reveal. Nothing feels like an aha. moment. Even though there were so many.
times where it could have been, even. when answering another question, she's. like whispering and counting months. She's like, "If I started in I think it. was April, so April, May, June, July.". Like she's just so it feels like such a. normal person just counting out the. months. Eventually, Mark Agnol leads the. conversation back to the missing jewelry. in which he asks if Capricorn knows. anyone else in the company that had a. lie detector test administered. So, we. actually do know that David James, remember, he had the lie detector, but.
Capricorn states, "Mike B." Who is Mike. B? Mike B was his stylist. Now, side. note, I did not think that this part was. that important because I'm like, if he. testifies later or if his name comes up. more frequently because like Uncle. Paulie, Drock, Bonds, like these. people's names come up non-stop. Gina, like Ivashta, Christina Cororm. These. are all people that are coming up. repeatedly. This is like my second time. hearing Mike B until I see Combmes's. best friend in the pews. He had his.
notebook closed on his side with his pen. inside and he was falling asleep like. he's fully falling asleep. His eyes are. closed. He hears Mike B. He startles. awake, grabs his notebook and starts. writing. So then I start writing in my. notebook. Who is Mike B? exclamation. exclamation exclamation. That's crazy. Like just that name. Yeah. And you start. writing something. Yeah. I don't know. what. Eventually, Mark goes into the actual. lie detector test. He's trying to. question the credibility of the story.
because I guess to some people it could. sound crazy. He's trying to lean into. that. But Capricorn is firm and you were. all hooked up to the lie detector test. equipment all day for 5 days. Not all. day. Okay. He would unhook me to review. the test. Okay. And this man, you had no. idea who this man was other than the. description you gave us. You have no. idea who he is? No, I do not. And you. were hooked up the whole time. I wasn't. hooked up the whole time. I would take. the test. He would unhook me. We would. review it. We would do it again. Okay.
So, how many individual lie detector. tests did you get? I didn't count, but I. kept doing it every day. He starts. trying to ask, "Why didn't you tell HR?". Which I thought was kind of a goofy line. of questioning. Did you call Vashta and. say, "I've been locked up in New York in. a New York City building that locks from. the outside for 5 days. I didn't, you. know, I don't I feel like this is some. kind of violation." I did not. Vasha was. approachable, right? Feudal. conversation, but yeah, she was. approachable. Okay. And you never called. Vasha to say, "You should know an. employee of this company is being.
kidnapped, locked in a building in New. York City that locks from the outside on. the sixth floor, being given lie. detector test after lie detector test. every day for 5 days straight. You never. had that conversation." I did not. And. you said that Paul brought you to the. five times as white as you man, right? Again, trying to poke holes in her. story, pointing out things that maybe. some jurors would find too crazy to be. true. But Capricorn is looking at him. like, "Oh my god, finally someone who. gets it." Yes. She's like, "Yes, he's. the one that brought me to the five. times as white as me, man." So, it's. like it it just it's it's not working in.
the way that it would work maybe with. any other witness. It just doesn't. really work. And then Mark goes on to. point out that Capricorn was fired. multiple times. She just keeps coming. back to work for Shawn Combmes, sometimes even taking a pay cut. Capricorn emotionally states, "I worked. for him in many roles over a long period. of time. I think I was a really good. employee for him." And she starts kind. of crying and he would tell you that he. would. Combmes is just nodding along, which I don't know. I feel like a lot of.
this is getting into slightly culty. territory. I'm not alleging that. anything is a cult. I'm not getting. conspiratorial, but it does feel really. icky. Like, I get what the defense is. trying to do, but also it just feels. like everyone worked really hard for. him, gave up their lives for him, and. he's just like, "Yeah, nodding like, "Don't forget my. toiletries." He just shows no. sympathetic emotions. He's just sitting. there like, "Okay, cool." Mark says, "And from what you could see, a lot of. the people in this orbit worked hard for. him, right? I don't think they worked as.
hard as me, but yes, people were working. hard. separate from all this stuff. You. know, I did learn a lot of stuff from. Puff. I mean, Mr. Combmes. So, she. remember the judge told Mark Agnel to. call him Mr. Combmes. So, she says Puff. by accident. She. like startles herself, looks at the. judge and is panicked and is like, "I. mean Mr. Combmes." Like, she looks. genuinely scared that she said Puff. instead of Mr. Combmes. Like, this is. what I mean by saying she feels very. genuine on the stand. He he has ideas.
He knows how to execute. He's tenacious. He wanted to break the glass ceiling as. it related to what we were allowed to do. as black people in the business world. And it was it helped when you work so. hard to be working with somebody who. would um match wits with you on the. fervor to be successful. And she's. sobbing at this point. Mark asks her if. she needs a minute. No, I'm fine, sir. Sorry. I mean, this is just very. complicated. Combmes again is just lean. back in his chair looking like a board.
businessman. He will frequently glance. over at Mark with his mouth slightly a. gape just blinking and staring. But I. feel like the crazy thing is he looks at. the jury to kind of the feeling that I. get is he's looking at them like you see. they love me. But I feel like if I were. on the jury the feeling I would get is. like wow you don't even care like this. girl that you've known and like worked. with for that many years is this falling. apart on the sand. Like there is nothing. in him that showed any sort of like, oh,
I didn't know she felt that way or like, damn, what a shitty situation that I put. her in. Nothing. It's just like, you. hear that? She said I was amazing. She. said I was breaking a glass ceiling. Did. you hear that? Like that's the feeling. And if I were on the jury, I'd be like, I'm getting the egg. I don't know if it. relates to the charges, but I'm getting. the ick. And you were saying like even. at times you were getting like. emotional, right? Yeah. With C. Yeah. This is him and her had such a long. running relationship and there's it.
doesn't seem like he show much of. emotion. There's actually one part where. a lot of people in the press later. commented that they almost started. crying and like same with me. I almost. had to like eventually Mark is like I. want to talk about Cassie Ventura for a. bit. Okay. Capricorn says that she got. along with Cassie really well until they. didn't. I would say our issues developed. after she started dating him. I would. say she got a little more and she starts. kind of moving her head around in 2008. I would say perhaps. And so just so the.
record reflects, you said she got a. little more and then you moved your. shoulders. Oh, sorry. Yeah. No, it's all. right. What were you conveying? What are. you telling the jury? She got a little. more bravado as being his girlfriend the. longer it lasted. When you say she got. more bravado, how did that manifest. itself to what you could see? Sometimes. she thought that I was being paid to. help her. Just that her expectation. level was increasing. She went from more. being a sweet model to like a feisty. girlfriend. Okay. And did you think she. was very talented? Okay. This is the.
part where literally the next day. everyone in the press was like, "Why is. everybody catching strays non-stop in. testimonies?" I think she had talent and. I think she was a very beautiful girl. Okay. So, I asked if she was very. talented and you said she was not very. talented as far as you're concerned. True. You said she had talent. Why do. you think that she has talent as opposed. to being very talented? Um, talented to. me is Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey. Very talented is that level of. performer, entertainer. Cassie was more.
of a studio artist. Um, a little more. comfortable in the vocal booth to have a. little bit of things equalized for you. and, you know, engineered properly. Less. of a live performer. She states that. Cassie is a hard worker, but also not a. hard worker. And in what ways was she. not a hard worker? Oh, well, I would say. that most of the time she preferred to. be with her boyfriend, but she does. mention that Cassy's hard work decreases. once Kim Porter has her twins, the. Combmes twins. After that, you saw that. she wasn't working as hard, not as hard,
and it doesn't come off as Capricorn is. trying to talk badly about Cassie on the. stand. It just seems like she's very. unfiltered and just says everything. that's on her mind. At another point, she's talking about a hairstyle that she. worked on Cassie with, and she describes. it like she liked it. She loved the. hair. She was like, "Yeah, let's do it.". I said, "We could cheat it with a weave, but it would be cooler if you dye your. hair." And she was like, "Ooh, I love. that." So, it was cool. Like, it's just. she's just so expressive. Meanwhile, Combmes is rustling through his little. notes like he's looking for something.
And later, Mark asks Capricorn, "Okay, now at what point do you and she go to. Best Buy and get her a burner phone?". So, remember, because she's the one that. recommended Cassie get the burner phone. Mhm. After we went hiking with Cuddy. that day, Capricorn is explaining that. she told Cassie she needs a burner. phone. And where did you get that idea. from? I mean, I know it sounds naive, but where did you get that idea from? Capricorn looks at him like he's growing. three heads. Like, my parents died when. I was 17. I'm from Los Angeles. I don't.
know how to answer this question. I'm. smart. And then everyone's just giggling. because it's just two of Capricorn's. attorneys. They even look at each other. and they smile. and they're right in. front of us. But Mark is not done. He's. never done. This is filibuster Mark. Agnif. So he's able to sneak in a. question telling and asking Capricorn. where Shawn Combmes was in December of. 19th, 2011. So mind you, all of the. KitKatuy stuff is happening right before. Christmas in 2011, but he's like honing. in. Do you recall if he was on December.
19th, 2011 at an orphanage in. Kazakhstan? I just remember he was in. Russia. I don't remember exactly, but I. just remember he was in Russia or. something like that. Okay. Do you. remember seeing photos graphs of him on. the internet at an orphanage in. Kazakhstan in December? And it just felt. so random. It felt like he was throwing. it in there to be like, "Hey, by the. way, my client is a philanthropist. Hey, my client saves dying puppies. Is. anybody listening?" Brian Steele's not. listening. He's falling asleep. He's. over this. Meanwhile, Sean Combmes full.
smiles. I'm seeing so much teeth. Sean. comes smiles and then he leans over to. Tenny Garagos and mentions something and. it's like super quick and then Tenny. nods but then after nodding she leans in. towards him whispers something super. quick and then suddenly his full smile. gone. It was giving like hey maybe don't. smile when they're talking nicely about. you and it was just like so goofy. Brian. Steel fully asleep. Mike goes on moving. on to the next scene and he goes on to.
debate whether or not the day of the. alleged kidnapping Combmes pointed the. gun at Capricorn or if he was just. waving it around. Capricorn states that. he was waving it around. But Mark says. according to the government meeting. notes, it says that previously she said. he was pointing it at her, which the. feeling being pointing it around, waving. it around. I mean, still kind of a gun, right? Yeah. At one point during this. very intense line of questioning, we. hear a scream from the other side of the. gallery. I my heart dropped completely.
cuz I it was like a very intense moment. Even my researcher was like grabbing my. arm cuz she was startled. But it was. actually just somebody sneezing on the. other, but it genuinely sounded like a. full-on scream. And there's this brief. moment before Mark continues about the. night of the alleged kidnapping where he. wants to know the location of the car. and all the pertinent questions. There's. a lot of back and forth. And then Mark. establishes that Reuben Combmes and. Capricorn get into the Escalade. They. drive to Kid Cuy's house. They park on. the side of the street. The car is on a.
hill. So, it's going up the hill when. they're parked. Meanwhile, Capricorn is. like sneaking a call to Cassie when they. leave and they break into Kid Cuy's. house. And he's like, "You saw them go. through this door. This is like the. outside door into the courtyard." Yes, sir. Okay. Did it seem like anyone had a. key? No. Did it seem like they pulled. the door hard and it opened? Like what. what did you see that allowed them to. get through the door? They were whatever. they were doing their backs were to me. I don't know. But I was not really. engaged in how they were getting in. I.
was very I was waiting for them to get. away from me so I could use the phone. But wouldn't you be watching them to see. if they're actually going to be getting. away from you? I mean, the key thing. here is they don't get through this. door. This ends right here. No. Objection. Let me ask a different. question. Why wouldn't you be staring. right at the door to see if they can get. in through the door? Objection. Argumentative. Rephrase. Were you. looking at the door to see if they could. get through the door? I was looking at. their backs. Okay. As you're looking at. their backs, what on the other side of. them is this door, right? Yes. But I.
would say at this point, I was kind of. sort of not really paying attention. I. was so in my head trying to think about. the next step. And I was praying that. Cuddy wasn't inside of there. Okay. So, what you're telling us is you haven't. the vaguest idea how they got through. this door. Is that is that about right? I don't. She says after they get past. the door, they run into the courtyard. towards Kid Cuy's actual front door and. presumably break into his actual house. She grabs her phone and calls Cassie. Could you tell from your side of the. call if Cassie was on the phone with. Speaker with Scott Muscotti present with.
her when you called? Yes. And they're. asking her what she said, which is. interesting because Kid Cuddy testified. he didn't know that Shawn Combmes had a. gun. Capricorn is testifying. She. specifically told them on the phone call. that Combmes had a gun. What she didn't. know that Kid Cuddy was there. She's. asked, "What exactly did you say about. the gun?" I said, "Puff came to my house. with a gun. We came to Cuddy's house to. kill him. He's in there right now." And. then I heard they're in my house. Okay, so you said it quickly. I said it very. quickly. I didn't want him to see me on.
the phone. My question is, you would. want to make it absolutely clear that. Combmes had a gun, right? It wasn't. about being clear. I was furious at her. now and I was like, "What the hell?" And. I'm just letting her know as fast as I. can without him knowing I'm on the phone. what the hell is going on with me. I'm. asking about the gun part. I said, "Yes, he came to my house with a gun and he. took me to Cuddy's house and we're here. to kill him, sir." At this point, Comb starts shaking. his head rather intensely, like, "No, we're not." To them, did anyone say. anything back? A gun? He has a gun. Was.
there any acknowledgement on the of the. fact that you said gun? No. I heard he's. in my house and everyone just kind of. started giggling because it's like how. many times is she gonna have to say that. in that voice? Now, when you were on. when you called Cuddy and Cassie, were. you on a three-way call with Lauren. London? This is a friend. No. Do you. remember telling the government that you. were? She was on the phone, but not the. whole time. Okay. When did you call. Lauren London? Right before I called.
Cassie. Let's break this down for a. second. I want to understand this. You're in front of the house. Combmes. has a gun, right? Combmes and his gun. and Rube somehow get through that door. and are now in Cuy's house, right? Who. who is Lauren London? Lauren London was. a She was Nipy Hustle's partner for a. really long time and then he passed away. and then there were rumors that Sean. Combmes and Lauren London dated. I see. I see. So, they're just Okay, got it. You don't know at that moment whether. Cuddy is there or not, right? I don't.
So, you call Lauren London? She was the. only one that was sort of in our orbit. as related to me and Cassie. And she was. like my sister at the time. I will say. this is confirmed by gossip blogs. They're like everyone thought they were. blood sisters. They're not the like best. friends and just wanted somebody to know. where I was if if he was in that house. and that he did get killed. I didn't. know. I just needed somebody to know. where I was in that case. It all went. really bad. So, I called her for my. protection. I just needed somebody to be. aware. So, tell us exactly what you said. to Lauren London. I'm just like, Lauren,
I'm at Cuddy's house. Puff brought me up. here and I want to run, but I'm scared. of the mountain lions. Scared of the. mountain lions. Yeah, it it was early. If you're familiar with the Hollywood. Hills, there's mountain lions and. coyotes. I was just scared. And I just. needed to talk to somebody to get my. head on straight. It was so early in the. morning, which interestingly enough, even though Capricorn is quote changing. her story with any other witness like. Don Rashard, it felt damning because I. think of the way that Don Rashard did. the testimony, the way that she was. responding to some of the questions and. judging by the juror's faces, but nobody.
seems fased at all by this. In what way. is her story changing? I guess she never. mentioned Lauren. Yeah. But like, you. know, the defense attorneys are going to. say that's a story change. And I'm sure. when it's the defense case and chief, the prosecutors are going to do the same. thing. Right. Right. Right. But the way. she explained it, it's like, well, duh. I just, you know. Yeah. She's like, "Why. wouldn't you call your best friend?" I. called my best friend. Is that crazy? Yeah. Yeah. Did you wake Lauren London. up? I don't remember her status. Okay. How long did you talk to Lauren London? Seconds, maybe 30 seconds. It was fast.
I had to get off the phone because Puff. kept popping out into the walkway and. and in the courtyard. I really don't. remember, but I do remember making a. call to Lauren. And I do remember making. a phone call to Cassie. Are you aware. that Lauren London and Combmes were. friends for years after this? I am. You. are right. They're still friends. I. mean, not at the moment, but they were. friends until a couple years ago, right? Which I felt like I get his point that. Lauren London is still friends with. Combmes after her best friend Capricorn. is allegedly kidnapped by him by. gunpoint. But the last part, I mean, they're not friends now. Definitely also.
doesn't help the defendant. I just find. it interesting. You know, it it's just. very hard to destroy Capricorn's. credibility even when geographically. sometimes Capricorn's story does not. make sense. She says after calling. Cassie, she hears Kid Cuddy coming to. the house. Soon enough, she sees him. pull up in the Porsche and what happens. next. He stops next to us, next to the. Escalade. Puff and Rib look at him, see. if he's going to get out of the car or. what's going to happen. And then he. speeds off and they jump in the car and. we chase him up the hill. Up the hill.
And are you aware of the fact that when. you go up the hill, the only way to get. back down to the main roads is to come. exactly the way you came? That's not. true. Mark and the defense team pull up. a map of where Kid Cuddy's house is. And. he is explaining more so to the jury. that Capricorn said that this is where. they went. But all of this leads to a. dead end. That doesn't make sense. And. he's confirming with the map, but they. all seem to be dead ends. Do you see. that, Capricorn, Miss Clark? I mean, I. would imagine that this is a big aha. moment, but Capricorn is firm, but.
they're not. To the point where Mark is. so taken back, he says, "Do you know. something we don't know?" I mean, you. can ask somebody that's a technical. person, but Skyline, if you go from. Hollywood Hills Road to Skyline, you can. get yourself back on Mhalland, and then. you can get yourself back to Laurel. Canyon and then you can go towards. Beverly Hills on Mahaland or go back. down Laurel Canyon. She says this with. so much confidence that I had to go home. and research whether or not Marcelo used. older maps to try and confuse Capricorn. I'm looking up if maybe the maps of the. Hollywood Hills are not as accurate.
It's not. It seems like it's quite the. accurate map. However, this is how. convincing Capricorn is in her story. I. feel like maybe there's some sort of. misunderstanding. Maybe like she meant. they went a different way cuz if you go. the different way, you do see skyline. You do see Laurel Canyon. And then she. said she was going south on Laurel. Canyon when the police were going up. Laurel Canyon. So I'm like I feel like. this but that's crazy because that's how. she Yes. She came across like not. convincing in the sense of like we don't. think she's telling the truth but in the.
sense of like she's so firm with her. answers. She's been so transparent but. the whole time Combmes is just shaking. his head in disagreement like I can't. believe how crazy this story is. Which. honestly there have been a lot more of. these like I'm so confused. However, everybody is giggling to release some. tension in the courtroom. So, I guess we. will all giggle. And a lot of those. moments come from previous employees of. Combs like Capricorn, but also David. James. David James, another former. personal assistant. He talks about the. time that he took ecstasy. He says, "It.
was a New Year's Eve party and Mr. Combmes gave me the night off, but he. invited me to the house to the party and. to celebrate New Year's Eve. So, I went. to Mr. Combmes's bag and I took a pill. of ecstasy that night." So he's doing. this without Shan Combmes's knowledge. And then he is asked, "What happened. after you took the ecstasy?" I was. feeling pretty good. Can you describe. the feeling of taking ecstasy? I would. say it's ecstatic. So I was also. drinking Sira that night. So I was. drinking and on ecstasy. Normally I'm. very straight edge. Don't normally have. too much emotion, but this night I was.
like dancing. Said I was um I was ditty. boopping all over the party and the. gallery starts giggling. A few of the. jurors are sharing glances. What. happened after you started diddy. boopping as you describe it? I was just. vibing. And even Combmes is smiling. But. he explains that afterwards, after diddy. bopping, he gets called into Combmes's. office where Combmes tells him, "Yo, Playboy, is that you dancing around the. party?" And I said, "Yeah, that was me. dancing around the party." He said, "You. were on ecstasy that night." And I said,
"Yes, sir, I was." And he kind of nodded. his head and said, "Okay, well, I'm. going to keep this footage in case I. ever need it.". what footage of him diddy bopping to. embarrass him. Later in the cross, Mark. Agno is asking David James about his. title and he's like, "But your title was. personal assistant, just so I know what. to call you." And David is like, "Call. me David." Other times, David James is. asked by Mark, the same one that's doing. Capricorn's cross. That whenever Combmes. ran into fans at McDonald's, let's say, you know, Mark says, "In your opinion,
did he intend to be gracious around. these sort of things?" I don't think. gracious is a word I would use to. describe Mr. Combmes. Okay. But he keeps. doubling down. Did he ever sign. autographs for fans? He did not. Actually, sometimes I would sign. autographs or his executive staff would. sign autographs. He would send those. out. If we got fan mail, for example, he. did not sign many. autographs. He also tries to make David. James feel good, saying things like, "Long days were never a problem for. David James, though, because he never. gets tired." To which David James. responds, "That's not true. One day I.
was actually driving home from the. studio in LA and I was actually driving. the car this night and I blew through a. red light and Mr. Combmes got very upset. with me and he was like, "What are you. doing, man? We can't be blowing red. lights. We'll be pulled over by the. cops." I just turned around and I said, "I'ming tired, man. Like, I'm. exhausted." So then Mark is like, "Okay, let's move on." And the whole time Shan. Combmes is sitting there and he's kind. of making these very specific. expressions which he does for all of his. personal assistants when they share. stories like this which is I've never.
heard this story before. Like he is in. my opinion trying to appear very. confused. Like where is this story. coming from? There's another part where. David James admits during the cross-. examination that one of the security. staff members, Roger Bonds, had picked. up two women that were sex workers. and. he says, "I wasn't familiar at the time. that they were prostitutes." That's how. he words it. Tell us what happened. Roger Buns and I went out to eat. We. went out to have drinks one night. We. were off. We went to the hotel lobby. We. met two women and we brought these two. women back to Mr. Combmes's residence.
Combmes was not there at the time. He. was at a hotel. Did you ask anyone if. you could bring these women back to the. house? I mean, Roger Bonds, it was his. idea to do it. Okay, Roger Bonds made. you do it. It was often that security. detail would actually invite women over. to the house without Mr. Combmes's. knowledge. And it turns out that these. weren't just women. They were what? Um, well, after we had intercourse, they. asked me for $200. I was very surprised. I was like, "What do you mean?" And I. called Bonds and I said, "Why is this. woman asking me for money? I had no idea. she was, you know, a person to ask for.
money after that." And I was against. paying her. So, I told Bonds, "I don't. want to pay her for this. I don't. understand why." He said, "You better. pay her because we don't want any. problems here at the house. So, pay. her." And you paid her. I did. And then. she wanted to take a shower, so I asked. her to pay me $200 to take a shower. How. did that turn out? I got my money back. You got your money back. Congratulations. And everyone in the. courtroom is giggling because we don't. really know what else to do. Even Shawn.
Combmes is glancing around to check. like, "Am I allowed to giggle?" And he. like glances around and then he gets a. little chuckles in. I will say though to. offset these lighter moments, there is. this odd feeling that whenever a former. personal assistant talks about Shawn. Combmes, and I say this so that you. understand the vibe, a lot of them sound. like they were in a cult. They will get. so emotional talking about the trauma of. working for Combmes. They will be so. firm in their insistence on seeing. violence between amongst themselves or. with Cassie and others like whether they.
are receiving the violence or whether. Shawn Combmes is putting that violence. on Cassie. But the second they're asked. to talk about Shawn Combmes as a boss, it gets strange. George Kaplan is. another assistant who was subpoenaed by. the government to testify, and I feel. like most of his testimony helped the. defense. He does state that some parts. of his job were hard. It was my first. week on the job. He asked me to go to. Whole Foods and get a BPA gallon water. bottle, and they didn't have it, like a. BPA free gallon water bottle, and I. didn't want to be coming back late, so I.
got two half gallon water bottles to. make up the whole gallon. and that was. insufficient. How did Mr. Combmes. respond when you brought him two half. gallon water bottles instead of one. gallon water bottle? He was angry. He. told me that I did not bring him what he. asked for. Meanwhile, when he talks to. Mark, the entire cross is just making. Shawn Combmes looks good. He says, "Everything that Mr. Combmes did and. does, diversity is a very important part. of it, especially for the. African-American people. When you work. with him, Mr. Combmes, part of the job, no matter if you're close to him or not,
he has an extremely infectious. vibration. I mean, you are around him. and you feel his excitement. You feel. what he feels and he's very adept at. projecting that. I have never worked. harder in my life. Mark Agno asks George. Kaplan, "You've never worked harder in. your life." And they always say, "Don't. ask a question you don't know the answer. to, but here I go. Looking back at it, was that a good thing or a bad thing?" I. can't answer that question. It's proven. to be one of the most complicated pieces. of my life. Is he the one that um had a. u immunity before he started talking,
right? Although nothing he said was. particularly crazy, he I mean there was. some drug conversation of purchasing. drugs. He says it was sad when he would. get yelled at by Shan Combmes because. quote I'm a young man and this is you. know this is a god among men talking to. me. Wow. But he also says he didn't just. push me to my deepest depth. He. introduced me to depths that I did not. know that I had. It helped me not only.
professionally, but that piece helped me. grow up as a man. He also mentions that. the entire company gets paid time off on. Biggie's birthday because it's a. holiday. He says that he still reaches. out to Shawn Combmes for his birthdays. and he says, "I invited him to my. wedding. I did not hear back." And. again, it's like that moment of like, "Wow, these people are talking about how. they gave up everything for Shawn. Combmes and he can't even message you. back. and I told him that I had a baby. and yet you still sit here today on the. witness stand of his trial and you have.
respect for him. Yeah, I'd say that it's. a complicated relationship at this. point. I think I have lots of. complicated relationships in my life and. I think this perhaps falls in that. bucket. So it sounds like, you know, Shan Kong is this like very high status. person and it's not like Shan Kong's. like necessarily kind to them or very. nice to them like he pushes them to. their maximum but still he's this very. influential person that you know did a.
number on their Yeah. You know it's not. it's not because Sean is like nice to. them in any way. Right. I don't think. so. Correct. Is that the feeling from. him? Like he never say that Sean was. like, you know, cares about him or. anything like that. But I think this is. the feeling that most people would have. working for someone like Sean Combmes. I. think it's just a natural human thing. when you work for someone that is at. such a high level and they might be so. cutthroat. You almost rationalize it in. your head as this is what it takes to be.
great. And then once they do compliment. you or they say one nice thing about. you, you feel so validated because it's. like it's not a random person saying. this to you. This is one of the more. powerful people in the industry. This. is, you know, it's like it feels really. real. Mhm. I wonder if this is just a. normal thing that happens. Yeah. And you. didn't want to come here today. I. desperately did not want to come here. today because you have nothing against. Sean Combmes, right? Correct. Now, same.
with Capricorn. During her cross, she's. shown an email between her and the head. of HR where she's just like wiping tears. and she's talking about how she got. fired. And even though she had so much. trauma from her job, she's so sad about. getting fired. Now, after her. termination, she does get hired by Chris. Lighty to be 50 Cent's day-to-day. manager. But right before her very first. She worked for 50 Cent. No, because. right before her very first day at work, Chris Lighty ends up passing away. So I. I think Chris Lighty works for 50 Cent.
Yes. And Chris Lighty hired her, but. then Chris Lighty passed away. I think. it's probably a whole new team that. takes over the management of 50. So she. didn't get the job. No. Then another. email is brought into evidence. Then a. text thread between Capricorn and. Combmes and it reads with Capricorn. asking, "Are you okay? Is your mom okay? Hope all is well. XX." Sean responds, "Yes, we're great. How are you? Hopefully you'll forgive me soon. It's. been long enough. I feel like you. forgave everyone but me. Anyways, be. well. XX. She's like sobbing while Mark.
is reading this out loud. Then another. email trained from Capricorn to Shawn. Combmes where she writes to him. Hope. you're well. Your grace period to be mad. at me has long exceeded the agreed upon. time, man. Lol. Mark has her read out. the second paragraph and she's just. crying non-stop. My hope for this year. is to for you to make good on your. promise to get other things and actually. be my friend again. And hopefully. retrospect has taught you that I just. minded my own business and grown people. did what they wanted to. She was clearly. never my real friend cuz she didn't.
clarify that to you. So many of your. other so-called friends knew things too. and you still [ __ ] with them. She just. must have wanted me in particular gone. So she's talking about Cassie, she's. talking about the kid cuddy and she's. talking about how there are other people. in Combs's life that have done worse and. he's still friends with them. And she's. upset so much so that Mark is telling. her, "Take your time. Take your time. Take a second if you need. Take as much. time as you need. Sorry, there's nothing. to be sorry about. And she's explaining, I felt again, I told you this is just so.
complicated for me. I felt that I was. somewhat of a protector for Puffif and. if you could get me away from him, he. wouldn't have someone looking after his. back that actually was looking after. him. So that email is me pleading like, "Dude, just let it go." And she starts. sobbing. She apologizes again for being. emotional. That's all right. That's. okay. They take all the time you need. There's no rush. And yeah, it was just. sad. Diddy's just nodding. He has no. reaction in the courtroom. And the judge.
is very sweet with Capricorn. He tells. her, "Miss Clark, it is it okay if we go. on? I'm sorry. Don't be sorry, please.". Even Mark Agnif chimes in. "You're. okay." Capricorn looks at the judge. I. apologize for my language today. The. judge looks at her. Do not apologize. Mr. Agnifo, when you're ready, you ended. up coming back and working with him. again, right? Yes. From your. perspective, he heard you. Um, I don't. think that was the case. I think that he. did what Cassie wanted and Cassie wanted. me back. All right. Can I ask you a. question? Did that hurt that he would.
only take you back because that's what. Cassie wanted? Yes, absolutely. And she. starts breaking down again. This is my. whole life and their shenanigans. I have. no parents. My son has autism. He's. nonverbal. And my stakes are higher. Sir, this is the part where I said a lot. of people were tearing up. I think it's. like because with everyone you just keep. hearing, if you were so scared for your. life, why did you keep going back? Which. I think is already like not the best.
question to ask anyone. But I think with. her, it's the way she says it puts it so. much in. perspective. Like sometimes not. everybody has hundreds of millions of. dollars and choices. So yeah, you know, and it you just feel okay. So you. reached out to him consistently, right? And I'm sorry, through the year 2018, 19, 20, 21, 22, you wanted him to. forgive you, am I right? I wanted my. life back, sir, and your life. When you. say, I want my life back, you wanted to.
work with him again. I wanted to work. with the music industry and use my core. competency. During the redirect, Capricorn mentions that part of her. settlement agreement was that Combmes. would give her a positive recommendation. to get a job, which he doesn't even do. that. How long were you looking for. work? I was looking for work until I. pretty much got pregnant. In what year. was that? 2015. Were you able to obtain. work? No. Why not? I was blacklisted. Did you return to work for Mr. Combmes? I did. Why did you do that? I wanted to.
take the opportunity so that other. people could see that I was a valuable. person and that I wasn't disposable. Why. did you need Mr. Combmes's approval for. that? At this level of business, he held. all the power as it related to me. During the recross, Mark Agnil focuses. mainly on Cassie with asking, "Do you. remember saying at our meeting in 2024. that Cassie said to you that if she you. told Cassie you have to you should move. away from him and date other people, right?" Mhm. Yes. and she said to you.
that Jay-Z was taken, who would she. date? True. She said that. She did. Nothing else. Thanks, judge. And that is. the end of Capricorn's entire testimony. It's very interesting because prior to. this, I felt like I was living in two. worlds. So, I would go into the. courtroom, and I know that the jurors. are not supposed to be making faces or. like nodding their heads, but you can. kind of get vibes. And I felt like even. throughout Cassie's testimony, there was.
a disconnect and what felt like a very. big difference between the energy inside. the courtroom versus the online. sentiment of her testimony. I felt like. a lot of the jurors were some of them. looked to me not perceiving Cass Cassy's. testimony well. And you you you're. you're kind of like frustrated a lot of. time when you come home. You're like, man, why is it not Yeah. Because it's. like when you actually take a second to. think about it and maybe the jurors go. home and they take a second to think. about it. When you think about it, there's so many reasons why certain. things unfolded the way they did, but.
when you see some of the jurors. reactions, it's like it always felt like. a lot of the case was not working really. for the government. And then this is. when things started going the opposite. way. Like Capricorn Clark's testimony, I. think it's really hard for jurors to a. not believe her or b not resonate with. her. I think even if you have doubts. about some parts of her story, I feel. like it's so hard to not resonate with. her emotions. I just didn't see a single person. smirking or like looking like this is so.
I don't believe you. Like it didn't look. like that at all. So, it's been very. This was a very noticeable shift. I. think um you know, you even see it. online. I think with Cassie's testimony, maybe it's more complicated and. everybody walks in with a bias already. established and people want to victim. blame, people want to do these things, but with Capricorn, it's like it seemed. a little more cleancut and her emotions. felt so real. What are your thoughts? Let me know in the comments. And we will. be back to more regular episodes cuz we.
just had a lot to figure out and we. figured it out. But um be safe and I. will see you in the next one. [Music].
