TikTok Employee Helps Sadistic Nanny Get A Job To Abuse 2-Day-Old Baby, Then Helps Her Flee

[Music]. bada bing bada boom Allison's a few. years old and she already sleeps really. well in her own room every single night. her parents put so much effort in trying. to make this room cute for her so that. she actually wants to sleep in there at. night they have those giant letters that. spell out her name on top of her bed a l. i s o n and she loves that that's her. favorite part of her room and every. single night she never complains she. goes to her closet she checks inside her. closet it there's no monsters she checks.

under her bed there's no monsters which. I mean if someone is like Daddy there's. monsters under my bed it's creepy but. it's still understandable considering. she's 3 years old but Allison has zero. complaints until one night Allison's. parents are passing by their daughter's. door and they hear this man's voice and. they freeze like mid hallway because. what the hell is that they stop they. listen and they hear it again Alison is.

supposed to be asleep she has no screens. in her room nobody's in the house they. don't have guests over and they have. never even heard this voice before at. all and it just says wake up Allison you. little what who the hell is talking to. their three-year-old like that they slam. open Allison's door and they're checking. everywhere they're checking the closet. the window under the bed the bathroom. Allison is getting confused like what is. going on all of a sudden and all they. see is the camera the baby cam pointed.

directly at them it just. moved and it. says to Allison's. mom and then nothing that's it the voice. is gone there are multiple different. websites that you can go on you click. the first link and it feels illegal to. even be on here you feel like you're on. the FBI's radar you are suddenly inside. of somebody's living room watching the. homeowner sit on the couch they're.

knitting they're periodically glancing. at the TV and knitting and you're like. do they know that I'm watching this. right now the next camera you click is. CCTV footage outside of someone's house. again do they know that I can see this. right now the next one you're like okay. they definitely don't know it's. somebody's bedroom it's their closet. it's their bathroom it's the mall. there's public places like gyms. hospitals schools prisons women's health. clinics and then finally there are tons.

and tons of videos of private bedrooms. with live footage of sleeping. babies it's got to be super illegal. right it's questionable a lot of these. websites are not illegal because they. are accessing unencrypted video cameras. like unsecured video cameras if you get. a home security system and you don't. change the password technically anyone. could really access that just know any. security camera where you can access it. on your phone phone so can anybody else.

if they really try wow so there are. websites that will just broadcast these. unprotected home security cameras. online so it it's kind of gray area of. is it really illegal is it not illegal. who's even running these websites it's. weird mhm some people who browse these. websites daily they explain well it's. not that I'm a creep it's just like I'm. lonely I'm lonely and I want to be. around people and this is the most. natural way to be around that which is.

fine if you're watching like the live. footage of Time Square but to watch. somebody else in their living room is. kind of weird I would call a therapist I. would call a police officer but they. continue and it's also this weird. paranoia that if I keep clicking and. watching different cameras I'm going to. pop up on there what does that mean they. feel like the more they click one day. it's going to show them on the screen. it's like this fear that it's going to. be you next so they keep clicking and. clicking and trying to make sure that. they're not on these websites they say.

it's a very interesting feeling it's a. mixture of complex. feelings but I will say that some of the. darker ones they really focus on baby. cams live footage of baby cams now I. imagine that this is probably illegal. but Jamie didn't know that Jamie's a mom. and she just knows that her baby cam has. this really cool feature where you can. go on your phone and you can make the. baby camera move you can make it look. right you can make it look left just. swiping on your phone it'll turn the. camera the point of view it's scans the.

entire room I'm assuming it's a really. good convenience feature but she wakes. up Wednesday morning and the camera is. pointed not at the crib in her room but. it's pointed at her on the bed that she. shares with her husband and she's like. why is the camera pointed at me I mean. she doesn't remember setting it like. that maybe her husband is at work and is. wondering what my beautiful wife is up. to is she up out of bed he moved the. camera and then forgot to move it back. regardless she's like not a big deal she. gets up starts her day at dinner Kevin.

her husband comes home and it's just the. three of them Jamie Kevin and the baby. and they're sitting there and she gets. this alert ding baby monitor being. adjusted the camera is moving and she. looks at Kevin she looks at Kevin's. phone that is on the table he's not even. touching his phone she opens up the baby. cam app and she sees in real time the. camera is slowly moving to pan across. the room it stops and it points directly. at the arm chair that she sits on and.

this armchair is where she breastfeeds. her son every single day then it scans. to the adult bed I guess once they. realize that nobody is there it goes. back to the bassinet the crib where the. baby sleeps Jamie's looking at Kevin did. you change the position of the camera. earlier today he's like who what what. are you asking me right now did you. change the position of the camera. earlier today to point at the bed he's. like no I didn't even check the camera. all day today because you were home all. day Jamie runs into the bedom she.

unplugs the camera and starts calling. the police you got to help me someone. hacked into my baby cam she tries to log. into her baby camera app and it's. restricted it says insufficient. permissions she can't even get into her. own account anymore and the police tell. her well you're not the first one that's. called us about this like things like. this happen quite frequently and there's. not really anything we can do about it. wow another nzen said I was changing my. daughter's diaper and I just had this.

feeling you know when you're outside you. feel like someone's staring at you and. you look and they're staring at you I. had that in my house but I was alone so. I looked around and then all of a sudden. I hear this voice that's a really poopy. diaper that's crazy coming out of the. baby cam so they're not just watching. they basically hacked it hacked your. system and is messing with you now yeah. that is a lot of creepy people will be. hacking baby cameras but that's not even.

the creepiest thing that you can find on. a baby cam it can get so much worse a. Chinese American couple in San Francisco. Dena and Tim these are pseudonyms by the. way they wish to remain anonymous they. open up the old footage from their baby. camera like the ones at night when their. baby is sleeping in her room and they. press play when you say old is it like. how old like a few weeks old oh cuz they. they noticed some things were off and. they just wanted to check the footage.

make sure that nothing had happened and. they go into weeks old footage and they. press play and they they have this gut. feeling it's going to be bad but it's so. much worse this is the worst thing that. they have ever seen in their entire. lives they click open the file it's at. night makes everything creepier it's. black and white and everyone's eyes in. the rooms are glowing so if you walk. into the room on the camera your eyes. look like raccoon eyes doesn't help the. situation the camera is pointed from the. corner the room so inside you see this.

queen-sized bed a small crib right next. to the queen-sized bed as well as some. desks and some other storage. organization shelves in the room it's. just like a basic room they press play. and they see this 56-year-old woman. standing at the edge of the bed at the. bottom of the adult-sized queen-sized. bed mhm she's holding their newborn In. Her Arms maybe like a few days old and. the baby is peaceful and the woman is.

just standing there peacefully it almost. looks like she's zoning out then out of. nowhere she pulls the baby up and throws. the baby like a football onto the bed. with so much force the baby bounces off. of the mattress and lands on the very. edge of the mattress so it's like. bouncing on the bed because she's. chucking that baby at the bed so hard a. few days old you said yeah like 4 days. old the the baby starts crying the baby.

was not crying before the baby starts. crying now is it is there audio too yes. and the woman is silent she has no. facial expressions she doesn't look. angry she doesn't look crazy she doesn't. just nothing she's just got a blank face. mhm the woman walks over very calmly. like a robot and starts grabbing the. blanket on the bed and shoving it into. the baby's mouth and then pressing down. on the baby and strangling the baby Dena.

and Tim are shaking because that's their. baby in the video that's their baby and. that woman that woman is the freaking. devil they click the next video they see. the same woman standing above the baby's. crib their baby and the baby's. peacefully sleeping the woman starts. smacking it on the sides again her face. is like empty there's no anger there's. no enjoyment on her face is this a. different day a different night just. empty face face smacking the baby side.

to side baby wakes up naturally starts. crying the woman grabs the edge of the. blanket shoves it in the baby's mouth. and starts pressing down on the head and. then she grabs both of her hands and. starts pressing the baby into the crib. like she's like she's kneading a really. hard large batch of dough or clay like. it's incredibly rough she's putting her. body weight into her hands she uses her. hand to cover the entire baby's face. because this baby has a few days is old. the face is Tiny and she can't breathe.

anymore the baby can't breathe she stops. crying only then does the woman give one. more strong push before walking away. from the crib As She's Walking Away From. The Crib the baby starts crying cuz that. makes sense the woman walks back grabs. the baby by the blanket so you know. babies have to be swaddled when they're. really young cuz they their arms can't. be free so you wrap them in like a. blanket burrito she grabs one side now. the baby is proba probably standing I.

want to say like a foot a foot and a. half off the mattress of the crib and. she's holding the baby over the crib and. she grabs one piece of the blanket and. unrolls it letting the baby roll roll. roll roll and then boom land on the crib. free fall into the crib yeah eventually. the woman takes the baby into her bed. the queen-sized bed and starts shoving. more blankets into the baby's mouth. until the baby stops crying what's very. interesting is when you watch through. this footage there are moments where the.

baby is not crying and she will force. the baby to cry by either roughly. smacking its swaddle or by shaking it. with so much force and then she will. enact this crazy violent Outburst. against the baby this is the since viral. case of the most evil nanny in San. Francisco and how she is now currently. free and evading the law. [Music].

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I think 24 hours Short yeah it was it. was a very short amount of time and. everyone was figuring out where are we. supposed to go like where on Earth are. we wanted as people who Doom squirrel on. Tik Tok on a daily basis myself included. and at first people thought well the. natural migration would be to Instagram. I guess like the reals right maybe there. other thought remember when vine. disappeared it was all to YouTube what. if it's like that which side note.

Americans collectively decided an enemy. of my enemy is a friend of mine so they. were thinking who else hates the US. government other than Americans perhaps. China So within a day or two they don't. go to Instagram we don't go to YouTube. we went to the most downloaded app in. the US called red note shosu shosu Shu. it's actually like Little Red Book I. think is the more proper translation but. nevertheless I am with red by the way I.

had my husband downloaded it for me for. like a year ago a year or two ago and. it's been wild to wake up one day and. just see it filled with a bunch of. Americans all on red all of a sudden I. mean the top comments are Americans. leaving comments on Chinese netizens. posts of their day in their lives and. they're saying I'm here to reunite with. my Chinese spy and then which Chinese. netizens have come to comment give me. your data finger gun finger gun Chinese. students have posted their English. homework online on red for Americans to.

help them which results in them failing. because Americans are never taught. proper grammar apparently and we can't. even teach a non-english speaker English. it's been kind of crazy but right before. that is what red note was known for. there was another big case in China and. America involving red note and Tik Tok. it is the Bay Area California Nanny case. in the Bay Area this is around San. Francisco there's this small suburban. home and there's a woman who is sticking. her head out the window and she's.

shoving her phone out the second floor. window recording every single person in. the driveway and there's a row of people. in the driveway and they're staring. proudly back at her like you're. recording me okay fine record me and. they're spraying the words baby abuser. all over her garage doors wow how many. people's outside like a good handful of. this random place and there's still. remnants of eggshells on her driveway. from when her house was egg. I mean the woman that everyone is.

calling a baby abuser is an alleged. higher up at Tik Tok Tik Tok Tik Tok the. company and all of this leads back to a. series of posts made on the app red note. it's getting crazy okay Dena and Tim are. on red note and they're looking for a. chinesee speaking Nanny but in America. they live in San Francisco mhm but. they're on the Chinese app and they want. a Chinese nanny who lives in San. Francisco and they're on this like.

months and months in advance they know. the due date they've already gotten all. the clothes the paperwork all the. essentials and now they're just waiting. to give birth and find a nanny Dena is. not really in a rush which is why she. starts looking so early on she just. wants to make sure that she can find a. nanny that she fully trusts she's. skipping through all the nannies that. are posting on the red app the Chinese. app until she comes across one where the. caption reads San Francisco postpartum. Nanny recommendation. the main picture you see is this huge.

spread of food freshly steamed shrimp. lady fingers soup eggs dumplings I mean. the food looks really clean and it's all. homemade and it's all beautifully laid. out on the table the original poster is. she's not the nanny she goes on to Rave. about the nanny she said I use this. nanny for my very first pregnancy and. she's just so gentle she's experienced. but also incredibly competent and. capable on top of that the Nan is. actually my neighbor's mom so it's like.

someone I can trust which you know. obviously helps and the photo of the. food I'm assuming it's the nanny's. cooking yeah so she's showing off what. she can make mhm and how helpful she is. and she's saying well this is you know. pretty much a referral if you will the. person that posts this referral on. rednote she works as the hiring. recruiter Talent acquisition at Tik Tok. I believe she's the head of talent. acquisition so a hiring recruiter will. go out and they will manage the team of.

people that hire people so they'll. facilitate the interviews look for the. recommendations I guess facilitate the. background checks Talent acquisition. they actually are more network-based so. they will find ways to make Tik Tok a. more marketable company for employees. cuz you're trying to attract the top. talent if you were the top talent in. your field why would you go to Tik Tok. over meta versus all these other Tech. Brands yeah so you're trying to. facilitate the best environment and the. best I guess comp package Ag and make it.

amazing for people who want to work for. Tik Tok mhm it's a it's a pretty big. deal I think the average salary for. talent acquisition in big tech companies. probably base is like 2300 w a year. that's a lot so Dena DM's the original. poster and her name is Christina and she. asks hey can we talk on the phone or at. least like text I just want to know more. about the nanny and about the experience. that you had working with a nanny she. gets on the phone and she's explaining. to Dena yeah you know it's interesting.

because I'm actually pregnant just like. you yeah so I was going to use the nanny. again and cuz it went so well the first. time I loved her for my first pregnancy. but the reason that I'm not is because I. think I might be going back to China to. give birth so I booked her originally. and then I canceled on her so I felt so. bad and that's why I made that referral. post on red because she really is a. great nanny I mean I would definitely. have used her again but again I'm going. to China so after talking to Christina.

Dina's like okay you know what I feel. good about this nanny and also it helps. because it's not the nanny that's. posting about her own Services it's. another Bay Area mom who already used. her she feels good about it yeah so she. books the nanny for 3 months and it is. $10,000 a month wow okay I'm going to. explain in a second because that's a lot. of money but it'll be worth it because. this woman is not a regular Nanny sep. setember 2024 Dina gives birth to baby.

baby H and she's honestly so relieved. that she's found a nanny months ahead of. time because first of all baby H comes. early and she's on the smaller side. she's like 5 lbs she's tiny Dena had a. lot of complications during labor labor. was so rough dena's epidural didn't take. well so they had to keep dosing her with. more pain meds she said pound sounds. very very light. what's the average like 10 oh I think.

like seven seven oh okay but five is. really light cuz my niece came early and. she she was a little heavier than 52. okay yeah so she said it caused severe. back pain cuz of all the the epidurals. the doctors told her it's going to take. you a lot longer to fully recover. compared to your previous labor. situation this is her second child and. she's having some pretty alarming. postpartum bleeding some bleeding is. normal but this is you just have to keep. an eye out cuz it's this this feels like.

it could be a problem dena's fine they. send her home with baby H but they have. to be super diligent they got to monitor. the whole situation it doesn't help that. Tim is working they've got so much going. on dena's in pain baby H came early. there's a lot and the only thing that's. saving them is that they got a nanny. like good thing they got a freaking. Nanny and the post on red that they. originally saw it was talking about how. this nanny has 5 years of experience and. she has this almost obsessive level of.

cleanliness she needs everything to be. clean which for the most part the first. few days that she comes Dena and Tim are. like oh yeah she does have an obsessive. level of cleanliness Nanny Lou shows up. she's 56 she's this very maternal. looking Chinese lady she's on time. immediately starts going to work she's. very diligent and it does feel like. she's done this quite often she keeps. asking the parents you have to install. baby cams in the room you have to. monitor the app in the room and how do I.

monitor the app because if I'm in the. kitchen and I'm cooking or I'm doing. something I got to make sure that I can. keep an eye on on the. baby wow yeah and the parents take her. phone and they can't download the. freaking app because she has a Huawei. phone which is a Chinese phone that's. banned in America so they're like okay. why don't you just use our iPad we'll. download it on the iPad you can watch on. the iPad she's like okay thank you the. next day she wakes up in the morning and. the nanny looks stressed Dina and Tim. are like what's wrong why are you so. stressed what's going on with the baby.

she's explaining no no no nothing's. wrong with the baby it's just I. obviously I woke up to feed the baby in. the middle of the night but I can't. remember if it was 2:30 in the morning. or 3: in the. morning I feel like it was two cuz I I. was trying to keep a log but I guess I. was tired I forgot to write it down. could you guys check the camera and see. what time it was was the camera the. nanny's suggestions they inst installed. it yes wow yes that's wild so a lot of.

nannies actually want cameras yeah yeah. yeah but for this case though and she's. like can you check the camera to see if. I fed the baby at 2:30 in the morning or. at 3:00 in the morning yeah this is. crazy premeditation like there's so much. thinking so hold on to that and she's. like cuz right now I'm cooking and I. can't remember what time it was and if. you're like why is the nanny cooking let. me explain she is a Chinese confinement. Nanny this is also very common in Korea. and that's probably why she gets paid.

around $10,000 a month it is the pretty. accurate belief that the human body. needs to recover heavily after giving. birth and in China and in places like. Korea they take it very seriously. obviously we should take it seriously in. America but I don't know the way it's. set up you barely get maternal leave. right the new mothers will typically be. confined to their house for 30 days. straight yeah sometimes you can't even. yeah you have to you can't leave the. house for 30 days you have to only eat.

nutritious warm meals you can't let your. body be cold so you can't eat cold food. you can only eat foods that warm you up. like papaya is a big one mhm and you. need to help aid with your milk. production they're not even technically. if you do it the old school way you're. not even technically allowed to shower. for 30 days because you're washing away. immunity and you're going to get sick. and you're going to be cold. I think most cians don't take it as.

seriously but we will only eat like V. seaweed soup for like 30 days and. because this is nearly impossible to do. a lot of people in the US will hire a. confinement nanny so like a lot of. Chinese parents Korean parents and it's. very different from a regular Nanny a. regular Nanny their focus is on the baby. they're not cooking food unless it's for. the baby right it's already. pre-established confinement nannies all. they care about is the person who gave. birth and the baby the partner other.

kids we don't care about you you are. nobody to this confinement Nanny the. confinement nannies if they're really. good they will typically protect the. mother from everybody else if the. Mother-in-law comes in and is like why. aren't you doing this the confinement. nanny is like hey lady get your ass out. of here if the husband is like where's. my dinner the confinement nanny is like. hey go sleep outside it's very intense. there's even hotels have you seen those. yes like you just go there for like a. few months after giving birth they will.

really take care of you all day all. night and the baby yeah like a resource. spot Recovery Center it's crazy yeah. they're drying your hair after your. shower because you can't get cold. they're preparing Ginger baths because. Ginger is supposed to help your body. retain heat and because they cost. typically around $110,000 a month you. really want to make sure that your. confinement nanny is the perfect one now. obviously I don't know if it costs. 10,000 all across the US San Francisco. is probably on the more expensive side.

so I would maybe guesstimate five to 10. on average right a few days into being. in the house dena's like you know maybe. I did pick the right confinement Nanny. because she's asking me if she fed the. baby at 2:30 3:00 in the morning she. wants me to check the cameras so that. she can log it down I mean she's got. this whole paper of when that baby was. fed but then she tells the nanny oh we. don't have the playback feature yet cuz. we just like installed these cameras and.

we have to sign up for the subscription. there's like a problem with it anyway. right now we can we can only see it live. but we can't play back it doesn't. record. what this is the worst mistake because. this is a test this is a test by the. Nanny oh immediately after that Dena and. Tim they're hyper alert about everything. in that house and they notice just like. the the smallest thing the nanny starts. slacking off she's not abusive or.

anything she just seems like she's. slacking a little bit which they think. okay maybe we're just being paranoid as. new parents maybe she's tired maybe. she's not having a good day like we're. just hyp sensitive and we want everyone. to function at 110% because that's what. parents want right for their baby but. she does seem a lot she seems a lot less. caring that's just the feeling she gets. it's a very subtle shift. Dena asks her husband you know that old.

camera we had in the room that's not a. baby cam but is for security that we had. in all the rooms just cuz when we were. both at work we don't want anything to. happen to the house do you still have. that in there he's like oh yeah I still. have that it's like in the corner of the. room it's not I don't think it's. pointing directly at the crib but you. want me to check it she's like yeah. could you could you check it is this. weeks later this is a few days later oh. so this does in fact record footage and. the nanny didn't know that huh no wow.

they didn't even focus on cuz baby cams. and security cams I guess in their minds. they had completely separated the two. baby cams are typically pointed at the. crib and yeah yeah yeah wow and so. they're like okay well maybe we'll just. check it so they go through the previous. night like a few minutes of the previous. night yeah and there's this one section. where Tim is watching it the baby starts. crying The Nanny walks over and grabs. the baby a few days old at this point.

grabs the baby and kind of shakes her a. little bit cuz she's crying but it's not. a violent Shake yeah it doesn't feel. like she's going to have any health. concerns it just seems like oh please. like why are you crying like you shake a. baby rattle like come on get it out of. your system but still not okay mhm it's. not the most violent thing but still. absolutely not okay it's she's being. rough so Dena and Tim they confront her. and they're like hey could you just be a. little more gentle when you touch the. baby and immediately the nanny is.

sobbing she's breaking down on the floor. and she's complaining about how. exhausted she is at night she wakes up. so late at night her eyes hurt her back. hurts money is not even the issue both. her daughter and her son-in-law are. high-ranking employees in Silicon Valley. Oh you mean Tim and no no oh oh oh she's. saying her kids oh that's weird yeah. she's like I'm not even doing this for. money I'm doing this because I love kids. and like money is not the issue but I'm.

just so exhausted right now and they. thought it was really weird and she. keeps explaining to them I would never. do anything inhumane she says it's not. in my nature to ever harm a baby Dena. and Tim they're comforting her because. it's so strange but there's also. something about her reaction that irks. them it just rubs them the wrong way. because why are you telling me that you. would never do anything inhumane to a. baby I feel like that's Baseline yeah. it's like telling someone I would never. kill anyone it's like well. I would assume that you would never kill.

anyone mhm it's very bizarre so they. start going through more of the old. footage and they see that she's a little. bit more rough every single night and. they don't see the extent of the full. footage they just see glimpses pieces. and parts so you're saying they're. checking daily they're just no they're. just going even more yes and they just. see a few little moments where she's. again being rough in a way that they. don't like it doesn't seem to be a. one-time thing they don't go through all. the footage they feel like we've seen.

enough we've seen a few Clips that's not. what we want in our house you're gone. get out of here you're not a good nanny. so they didn't see all the clips that I. was telling you about earlier yeah they. just see some small very rough very I. would consider abusive but you know they. don't call the cops they just say get. out so how long was Nanny there for 10. days okay so that's when they yes she's. gone she's gone they fire The Nanny they. kick her out and the whole time she's. packing her stuff she's not even trying. question why they're kicking her out.

she's not even asking oh can I get paid. for the 10 days which they again think. is very weird because if you genuinely. feel like you didn't do anything wrong. You' be like why am I getting kicked out. where is my payment this is unfair you. booked me for 3 months I could have. booked other clients nothing just. silence and she leaves and now they're. just trying to focus on getting back to. normal cuz it's a sudden change without. a nanny Dena is still recovering Tim is. taking care of her and the kids whilst. working and so finally weeks pass and.

then they're like you know what just. something about that Nanny irks me now. they're clear-minded things have gotten. better dena's recovered and she's like I. want to let's go through all the footage. Dena cannot even handle looking at the. footage Tim said I was sitting there. watching and each time the nanny even. shows up on the baby cam I had to. mentally prepare myself my heart would. start racing my hands could not even. stay still while they're holding on to.

the. phone sometimes when he sees the nanny. in view he just wants to squint his eyes. because he knows what she's about to do. to their baby and he's just sobbing the. whole time wiping his tears wiping the. tears off the. screen I will say that the footage is so. violent the footage is I I mean people. that don't even know baby H like myself. no relation to Baby H it's so hard to. watch the footage I think it's worse.

because it's very unexpected there will. be moments where the nanny is holding. the baby in her arms and it seems like. she's kind of rocking the baby back and. forth and then all of a sudden out of. nowhere she Chucks the baby across the. room so this happen started when like. the first night second night immediately. mhm Dena starts freaking out she and Tim. are both just trying to figure out what. the hell they're going to do about this. and then they reach out to the girl on. red note that even posted about the. nanny in the first place. she's not responding so I'm so sorry so.

about the footage yes what what was it. is it just constant like every couple. hours yeah every couple hours just. throughout the night she will walk into. the room and abuse child and then leave. she sleeps in that room oh so she sleeps. on that queen-sized bed and the crib is. next to her every time she has to do. midnight feedings yeah you know. throughout the night and she has to. comfort the baby when it's crying when. the baby is crying right right right but. instead she's just like yeah yeah. hurting the baby and then you'll see. moments where she's bottle feeding the.

baby uhhuh and then she'll get up and. she has to burp the baby but she'll burp. the baby so hard the baby starts crying. and then she'll start shoving blankets. into the baby's mouth so it doesn't even. feel not that abuse is ever logical but. it's not like this baby is crying I'm at. my wits end not that that's okay I'm not. even please okay but it's even scarier. yeah because it's almost like she's. trying to make the baby cry so that she. can abuse the baby that is weird Okay.

it's very bizarre mhm this red note. referral is not responding at first Dina. and Tim are trying to reach out because. first of all this lady is crazy and you. need to help us get to the bottom of it. and second of all she could have done. this to your baby cuz you also used her. as a confinement. Nanny no response so interestingly. enough they decide why don't we try like. running her phone number because. something about this feels wrong she was. pretty responsive and now all of of a. sudden if we tell you hey The Nanny you.

used for your baby is abusive you. wouldn't want to call me back. immediately that doesn't make sense as a. mother yeah they run the phone number. and this girl that recommends The Nanny. on the app is not a random customer. providing her two cents and a referral. she is the nanny's daughter she's got. the same last name everything whoa but. nowhere nowhere in the post does it say. hey this nanny is my mom and in fact it. says this nanny is my neighbor's Mom.

it's a flat out lie it's not even an. omission of the truth Christina the red. note op the girl that recommends The. Nanny the daughter of the nanny she made. it appear as if she has relatively zero. incentive to promote this nanny other. than perhaps her guilt for cancelling on. her MH she made it appear to be the most. natural referral process just vouching. for the nanny when it's her mom it is. alleged that she not only lied about. that but she helped her mom get a travel. visa into the US from China so her mom.

was living in China she gets her into. the United States on a tourist visa. which you're not allowed to work in the. country on a tourist visa mhm but then. she's setting her mom up to work in the. country allegedly which is illegal so. once all of these little sick puzzles. are coming together Dena and Tim are. messaging Christina non-stop I wouldn't. even say they're calling her out they're. being quite understanding even in their. initial message it's along the lines of. hello I'm the mother who just fired your. mother Nanny Lou I'm not sure if you're.

aware of the reason behind your mother. being let go but it was child abuse we. would like to arrange a face-to-face. meeting with you to discuss this matter. there are some videos that might help. you understand and make a judgment we. also want to discuss how to properly. handle this situation moving forward. thank you did they didn't file police. report they do eventually but they're. basically reaching out to her to State I. don't even know if you know this about. your mom like I'm about to break some. very harsh news to You Christina does.

not give a response no response so then. they go to the police they file a police. report the police tell them we can't do. anything because that woman is back in. China wow she allegedly left for China. the night that she was. fired. wow yeah that's crazy the police can't. help Christina allegedly doesn't want to. help Dena and Tim decide find then we're. going to try and get them to help we're. going to go on red note we're going to. go on doing which is Chinese Tik Tok and.

we're going to tell everybody what. happened so it doesn't happen to anybody. else who knows she could be in China. right now trying to be a confinement. nanny so November of 2024 their social. media post goes viral it's a long post. with pictures of the nanny's ID card. along with her social media profile and. a Google drive with all the baby cam. videos of the abuse and they write CA. video watch with caution the nanny's. name is Lou she was recommended To Us by.

another mother on red note in May of. 2024 the other mother on red note said. the nanny was her neighbor's mom and she. had hired her for her first child we. contacted this redn note referral and. spoke to her on the phone to inquire. about how the nanny was and ultimately. we decided on a 3mon schedule with the. nanny but instead this is what happened. there's nine Clips inside the Google. Drive the video starts with a disclaimer. this video might be the most malicious. maternity nanny in the world open. carefully this video is shocking in. warning mothers with high blood pressure. should be cautious are you linking these.

in Source notes or no I will just be. very. careful yeah it it um I'm not a mother. my sister saw the videos and she said it. kept her up for like two nights it's. very viscerally you see it and you can't. unsee it and yeah and she's a mom of two. so it it was. rough the case blows up to the point. where even if you type in the word Bay. Area on doing and R for a while and not.

anymore but at that point one of the. first results was Bay Area abusive Nanny. everybody starts sharing re-sharing this. video and at first I will say Nan's. reactions were kind of mixed a good. chunk of nens they're busy commenting on. the video itself because of just how. visceral the image is but a lot of neens. are also confused by baby H's parents. Dena and Tim they're attacking them. going why didn't you immediately call. the cops the night you fired her when. you found out that she was suspicious.

why didn't you immediately investigate. further I'm so mad why don't you watch. over your own baby but other nzen post. they start going viral too and they're. also Bay Area moms and they're. commenting that's the freaking Nanny. that we initially tried to hire we. interviewed. her one poster says we saw the original. post from Christina too and we thought. okay well she sounds nice we get to the. phone call stage where I'm talking to. the nanny on the phone the way she spoke. and the way she answered questions was. quite unprofessional and then compared.

to her resume which was over the toop. and professional it just felt like it it. didn't make sense yeah that's why we. didn't hire the nanny another poster. comes online to say I almost hired her. too but the reason I didn't was honestly. like it was a whole fight between her. and her husband too because it's kind of. embarrassing at the time it seems stupid. we didn't hire her because I was going. through her social media account and all. of her pictures were heavily filtered. and edited. for a 56-year-old woman which like I.

know I know it's bad to just judge. people like that but compared to other. professional nannies that were posting. on red note it just kind of felt weird. you know most professional nannies were. posting natural unedited photos at least. on their professional account to. Showcase their lives and what kind of. person they are but it's just weird it. was just weird you know but my husband. was like give her a chance we went to. the phone interview and that's when we. noticed something more alarming the. original poster Christina mentioned that. the nanny was from a big city Beijing.

this is like saying they're from New. York mhm right cities in China are. ranked as tiers Beijing is a tier one. city and quite literally the nation's. capital there is some stigma. unfortunately of professionals from tier. one cities might be considered I guess. biased more advanced you know cuz it's a. tier one city which is clearly a huge. selling point otherwise Christina. wouldn't have even put it in the. original post that she's from Beijing. right but but when this woman gets on. the phone with the nanny she the only.

thing she's noticing is her thick. Northeastern accent nothing is wrong. with that there's actually a lot of tier. one cities in the Northeast it's just a. random lie it felt like she like it's so. random and weird mhm I guess it would be. the equivalent of instead of saying. you're from Dallas or Austin or Atlanta. still massive cities you're like oh yeah. I'm from New York I'm from New York City. I'm from Manhattan it's kind of like I. don't know why you would have to lie. about that there's nothing wrong with it. it's just why interestingly enough.

another nean comes forward and she says. oh I had such a bad time too during the. hiring process but now with the nanny. with her daughter. Christina yeah so if the nen's discourse. is 100% accurate then this means. Christina does work at Tik Tok as the. talent acquisition lead allegedly and. she's supposed to be helping attract top. talent sometimes she'll do interviews. when there's some really big talent that. she wants to bring over to Tik Tok poach.

if you will I would imagine to some. degree she has to be a likable human. being one nzen writes I was interviewed. by Christina the whole time she was. super unprofessional she made multiple. several attempts to lowball my salary. everyone I know in the industry that. knows her does not like her so all these. things are coming together online and. Christina never reaches out to Dina and. Tim at this point they're posting online. and people are putting the pieces. together it appears that Christina the. Tik Tok employee is the one that brought.

her mom through a tourist visa allegedly. illegally set it up so that she could. find a job in America which she's not. supposed to be working on a tourist visa. lied about a bunch of things and then. Christina's husband so the nanny's. son-in-law was allegedly the one to. drive her to Dena and Tim's house for. the job mhm now this is very important. because he reportedly allegedly makes. almost half a million dollars a year. working for snap the pairing company of.

Snapchat and remember Nanny Lou said my. daughter and my son-in-law are. Executives high ranking Executives in. Silicon Valley yeah yeah yeah it's. believed that together they I mean total. comp maybe they make like seven figures. a year who knows a million doll. household income and yet their mother. must work as the violent abusive. borderline homicidal nanny. I mean that's what netizens can't even. wrap their minds around because sure if.

you don't have money maybe you force. your parents into a job that you know. they're going to be bad at maybe you. don't know how bad they'll be but they. don't even need her to work they make. way more I mean yes the Bay Area is. expensive but are you serious the anny. Christina's mom can't even legally work. I mean none of this is making any sense. so netizens dig even further and they. find out that Christina had actually. posted about about her mom way before. her being a nanny she was on these.

forums on WeChat so the nanny posts are. on red note which is the Tik Tok Refugee. app then you have WeChat which is like. WhatsApp and she's posting on there in. these groups these group chats where she. recommends her mom as a nanny and she. says I'm recommending a nanny my. colleague originally booked her so now. she's switching it up but this is older. than Ren no post yes my colleague. originally booked her but recently she. decided to return to China to have a.

baby so now it's her colleague not her. she recommended the nanny to me several. of my colleagues have used this nanny. she's very clean and reliable and the. daughter also lives in the area so lots. of trust nobody responds so days later. she's in a different group chat on. WeChat and she's writing wait wasn't. someone here looking for a cleaning lady. my colleague just moved and his cleaning. lady is now available she's Chinese. she's been working for their family for. really long time I haven't hired her. personally but if anybody needs her I.

can get him to send me the info I heard. she's quite cheap their house is a. 2story home probably. 15,800 ft the cleaning lady comes in. once a week and charges $50 no time. limit which side note that's an insanely. low fee to charge it's crazy like these. rates everyone online were like these. rates don't even make sense especially. in a big city according to Reddit and. other online sources house cleaning. services in the B area you're looking at. $30 to $70 per hour it's going to take.

multiple hours to clean a ,500 to800 ft. home depending on how messy it is $50. for the entire place just doesn't make. any sense and because it's such a good. deal everyone on WeChat starts asking. for the contact information they're. responding in the chat like oh my God. please please please one person comments. oh my God the price of her cleaning is. lower than the floor like it cannot go. lower it's already on the floor M. please I need the contact info what kind. of godsend price is this Christina.

responds I'm also so tempted to use the. cleaner but my mom is visiting in the US. and she's been cleaning my house she's. definitely not as good and she's got a. really nasty temper H I never got to use. the cleaning lady for cleaning so let me. know if you guys want the women's. contact info and then she sends the. phone number which turns out to be. Christina's personal phone number and. the person that she's referring is her. mother wow. which side note what makes all of this. even more twisted if it's true is that.

again Christina makes a lot of money and. on top of that she works as Talent. acquisition for Tik Tok let's be pretty. real she probably knows to a I would say. relatively deep level how advertising. Works her way of advertising her mom is. so meticulously thought out and Sinister. she never says it's my mom because. what's wrong with that you could just. say hey my mom works as a you know yeah. as a house keeper she would love a job. yeah it's different yeah Dam and it also.

sounds like she definitely knows the. mom's problem yes like 1,000% a nasty. temper yeah yeah oh just wait there's. more group. chats that said to everybody's amazement. it does get worse it said that Dena and. Tim they fire The Nanny October 3rd and. October 4th someone in the group chat is. explaining hey I still need a cleaner I. still need a cleaner aka the AKA. Christina's mom who is now in China and.

they were told quote Oh the cleaners are. fully booked and they're not accepting. any new appointments there's no more. slots available if anyone's. wondering no the cleaner fled to China. oh so she's knows exactly what just. happened yeah okay and it's still. responding like oh she's booked she's. all the way bucked but that's clearly. not true so people are digging up all. this information within 24 hours of Dena. and Tim's initial expose that's posted. on Chinese social media now mind you up.

until all of this from October into. November Christina is not reaching out. they're trying to work with the police. the police can't really do anything. because there's no extradition treaty. with China even with the video evidence. there's nothing that they can do. Christina never reaches out not once but. within 24 hours of this expose going up. she posts. online Christina posts online victims. please contact me if you have been. harmed what yeah that's it no and then.

she continues I am Nanny Lou's daughter. regarding this matter I did not take the. responsibilities for safeguarding the. situation and I did not know nor care. for my mother's personal health and. mental state regarding my mother's. working as a nanny in the US we did not. know that this was happening for the. full 9 months that she was here in the. US she did not live with us she used my. redn note account to post pretending to. be me and used my cell phone number to. contact the victims I did not know about. any of this really yeah wow if you do.

not believe me we can video chat so that. you can see that I'm not the referrals. voice regarding this matter I feel so. wronged I don't know how to fix this. either it it just feels incredibly. unjust with my family's Financial. condition I did not have any reason to. recommend my mother for her to obtain an. illegal job in the US AKA I'm rich AKA. like why are you throwing this in there. and she's saying regarding the aftermath. I don't understand why the parents of. the child did not call the police right.

away but instead chose to let my mother. go back to China and then chose to. address the issue by online bullying my. family my husband did not receive the. messages you claim you sent us the. reason for not responding immediately is. one my mother did not admit to doing. anything that she was accused of two. child abuse is very serious and it's a. crime we were hoping that the police. would handle the issue on top of that. when when the police asked us and. inquired about this issue that was the.

first time that I saw the security. footage it shook me to my core after I. confirmed the safety of the baby my. first reaction was is there something. wrong with my mom like is she having a. mental. breakdown the week that I spoke to the. police we were constantly dealing with. the authorities constantly dealing with. this matter I was repeatedly calling my. parents in China suggesting that they go. to the hospital to get my mom's mental. state checked out did I try to avoid. this matter yeah I did I admit that. because I didn't want to get in contact.

with the parents directly I wanted to. trust that the police would handle it if. they were going to arrest my mother they. should arrest my mother if they were. going to sentence my mother then she. should be sentenced whatever needs to be. done it's fine please everyone just try. to think in my shoes for once if this. happened to you and your mom refused to. admit this and then you see the security. footage only to realize the truth. besides taking care of your mom what. more can you do what can I do in this. situation this has already happened I. mean comparing the damage to the family.

that of the baby that they've received. you know the damage that it's done to me. and my family is I guess. dismissable the impact that it's had on. me is you know insignificant I can very. much understand the parents of the. baby's anger after 2 months and I also. understand that they're not seeking. money but in my current stage I can't. fix my mom so all I can do is beg for. the parents to answer my call if you. don't want the police to handle that. then I'm also open to hearing your.

demands so we can settle it privately I. mean I guess who raised her right yeah. there is not a single apology in the. statement I mean this is the hill you. want to die on like child abuse is okay. it's not my problem that's the hill it's. always hard to understand when people. decide to be so stubborn and wrong and. morally corrupt like it it doesn't even. make sense Christina basically complains. for lack of a better words she did her. best this is not my problem my mom might. be me ill why don't you let the police. handle it also the post is riddled with.

you know me and I lie moments you know. that Meme things just don't make sense. your mother hasn't lived with you for. the past 9 months how did she get access. to your red note account and your phone. number to impersonate you not to mention. the referral post that was made. promoting Nanny Lou as the best Nanny. ever it was written with a lot of trendy. words I guess like you would say more. slang yeah it's not something yeah my. parents can't even figure out how to. make it account yeah what are you. talking about exactly after this post. blows up more screenshots get unearth.

and I will say this time around is very. difficult to validate these screenshots. so take it with a grain of salt what. someone claims that they are in a group. chat with Christina Christina has been. ranting about the situation to the group. chat allegedly she wrote in her chat. that she wanted her mom to work in the. United States because she doesn't want. her to just sit around at home and do. nothing all day then she allegedly goes. on to write look the employer didn't pay. pay enough so she threw the baby the. child was hit that was that they.

definitely didn't pay her enough for all. that work anyway once this turmoil dies. down I'm going to treat everyone in this. group chat to a meal what another. alleged chat says in a few days the. internet will move on no one in China. even cares what you're seeing the. outrage is just all fake commotion based. on what big data is pushing to you H let. the law handle it the outrage is going. to die down I mean what do I need to go. to jail too again these are alleged. messages finally someone in the group. chat gets fed up with it and allegedly.

responds to allegedly Christina you're. just indifferent to it do you really. feel nothing about the videos of your. mom abusing the baby or are you just. like your mom if this is actually. Christina the account response I'm used. to it that's why I want her to work she. can't just stay at home whatever. grievances that the mom has like what. does it have to do with me the worst. part is it is said and alleged that. Christina changed her profile picture in. the group chat to be of baby. H who so one person that exposed the.

group chat said from the beginning to. the very end she never felt that she nor. her mother were in the wrong instead she. believes it's Dena that's in the wrong. that's her attitude that Dena and Tim. are the reason for all of this happening. to her her attitude feels very much like. everyone is bullying me on the internet. like what does this have to do with me. why am I getting bullied I'm not the one. that hit the kid yeah even like the very. original post she's saying that why. didn't you call the police right away. are you kidding me that's your first.

response yeah oh and then she makes. another post it almost feels sarcastic. the opening line is I'm the daughter of. the malicious Nanny from the Bay Area. this is her second post yes we have been. speaking and communicating with the. police about this matter if the affected. family is still unsatisfied and wishes. to resolve this privately please answer. the phone currently we have received. many personal attacks and threatening. messages which we have reported to the. police we hope that people will stop. illegally sharing our personal. information all my explanations and.

actions to address this issue will only. be conveyed directly to the family. involved thank you for your. understanding. wow people went in people went into Tik. Tok see what's interesting is she did. really good at marketing the mother. right she understand what the algorithm. what people want to see and it worked. but when this happened backlash happened. like anybody else I can see like. whatever she's doing right now is going. to make the things 10 times worse now.

everyone hates you not just your mom but. you but because they're not they're you. know they're messed up inside they can't. even help it to be evil right they can't. even take a second to think oh maybe I. should apologize first and not to play. the victim card they can't even help it. I find that um when people are just. really bad people it always comes out. even if they're smart successful it just. comes out when it when the tension is. hied they can't they don't know how to. how to you know change that it's crazy.

MH and uh people were upset a lot of. people that were on Chinese social media. that were on red note they also work for. Tik Tok and they were reporting her. internally nonstop everybody was. reporting her and finally someone who. allegedly works at Tik Tok and again. take this with a graan of salt said yeah. okay so her status right after this. whole thing blew up everybody reported. her was on leave and and then now it's. account not found in the internal like I.

guess employee she's fired it seems like. she was fired and it's also off her. LinkedIn her LinkedIn has gone kind of. private if you will but it does appear. that her husband is still working at. snap people have mixed feelings about. this it's a I would say it's like a. spectrum some people think that the. husband okay Christina getting fired for. her online post is one thing yeah. because you work at head of talent. acquisition MH you're like the worst. person to entice people to work for Tik. Tok you just don't do your job well. anymore right but with the husband.

people are a little more mixed some. people are saying well he didn't really. have involvement that's not his mother. and should he his whole life be ruined. because of that too but then other. people are saying he drove her he drove. her to the place of employment so even. if he didn't know that his mother-in-law. was abusive like his wife seems to know. he still knew that she was illegally. working so you're still allegedly. indirectly helping commit a crime now as.

for the nanny I don't think anything. will happen to her unless she commits a. crime in China that is different from. this or she tries to come back into the. US which I don't think she ever will. there seems to be not much else the. police can do at this point as of baby H. she has received full body X-rays and. MRIs she is too young to know if there's. any lasting impacts from the abuse it. does seem like there were no direct. critical. conditions that need to be you know. examined but I'm sure the guilt the.

trauma and the anxiety of like okay what. if it's still going to be there for a. really long time the parents say that. they feel so much guilt that their baby. suffered inexplicable harm for the first. 10 days on Earth they don't even know if. their family will ever psychologically. heal from this trauma regardless some. netizens feel like everybody in the case. is to blame including Baby H's parents. Dena and Tim in fact some even take it. further and they feel like the parents. are the main blame they say so a newborn.

was left with a stranger why have a baby. for someone else to look after. especially a newborn stop leaving your. kids with other people another reads I. don't excuse this abuser at all but. parents should be aware that there are. people like this you really cannot trust. strangers with your children being aware. of that and planning ahead to stay at. home with your kids even for a few years. is being a responsible parent a few. years it's up to you to protect your. kids and raise them if you can't put. your kids before your job you are not. ready to be a parent maybe ever some. other nuzens agree writing leaving.

babies to strangers is Taking Chances. why can't moms stay at home to take care. of their own don't have babies if you. can't provide maternal care another. reads popping out a baby and immediately. handing her over to a random nanny is. mind-blowing there's a whole thread of. neens agreeing and shouting into the. abyss of their Echo chamber writing. women have been doing it for hundreds of. years but nowadays we don't do it. anymore it's sad that our baby's life is. not worth it they have to worry about. long-term effects on the baby now. because she was you know tired the n The. Nanny was tired and abused the baby I.

mean I don't mean disrespect but it's. the truth to some degree I think that. everyone is entitled to their own. opinion but no I don't think you are one. comment reads for those blaming the. parents not taking care of the baby. themselves this nanny was actually hired. as a postpartum doula this is very. common in China postpartum nannies are. specifically trained to take care of. newborns so they start their job when. the baby is one day old their salary. reaches towards $110,000 a month because. of their specialty the baby's mother is.

also suffering from major bleeding when. giving birth so she was. hospitalized other parents just didn't. agree with the way the parents handled. it they say it's not the parents fault. but okay I understand the point but why. are you not checking the camera footage. videos on a daily basis I would watch. the camera every time that Nanny goes in. or at least check daily what she does at. nighttime especially when the baby is so. young others are commenting why bother. getting a camera if you're not going to. check it especially in the beginning. it's like getting a house alarm but. never setting it because it's a safe. neighborhood others right during my.

postpartum my baby and Nanny stayed with. me in my room fulltime because I was so. paranoid but most netizens are fighting. back they say in another interview the. mother said she suffered postpartum. hemorrhaging and was extremely weak. during this period dad needed to go to. work during the daytime not every mom is. lucky to recover perfectly within a few. days can't people be nice and. understanding other netizens were more. focused on the actual abuse they say. honestly I just watched the first 2. seconds and I instantly had to turn off. the video I felt like I was watching.

someone murder a newborn it was that. violent another comment reads at first I. thought she threw a doll I didn't. imagine she was hurting a baby like that. and some netizens are focus on the. question that a lot of neens have wow so. both the husband and wife are high. earning Tech workers why does the mother. even need a take the nanny job she's. obviously a horrible Nanny and now a. criminal it just sounds like too much. greed honestly for that I think they. should lose everything another netizen. writes the daughter and son-in-law of.

the nanny should be arrested for felony. accessory after the fact and afterwards. be sued in civil court for everything. that they own some netizens disagree. commenting oh so we're firing people for. crimes committed by their. relatives what do you guys think I mean. it's not just crimes committed by the. relative though they got the job they. drove her to work and then to a degree. we can assume or allege that they helped. her flee the country mhm what do you. guys think do you guys think that. Christina and her husband should be held. criminally liable for what Christina's.

mother did and how they helped or do you. think maybe they should just get fired. from their positions or do you think. only the abuser should be held liable. let me know in the comments also there's. currently a petition for change.org for. the ussi United States citizenship and. immigration service to investigate their. illegal employment and infant abuse. allegations I will link that in the show. notes so with that being said stay safe. and I will see you in the next one. [Music].