The Indonesian Girl That Killed Her Best Friend With Poisoned Coffee Out Of Jealousy

[Music]. bada bing badao deie was the manager at. this local cafe in Jakarta called. Olivier Cafe and she takes her job very. very seriously she takes pride in taking. care of her customers making sure that. all her staff are polished and polite. she made sure the cafe itself always. looked very very magical it had this. Forest theme but not like the Rainforest. Cafe no offense Disney it was like a. magical plant-filled Urban Oasis like. think of a coffee shop in Brooklyn.

that's kind of the vibe you're talking. fiddle leaf plants everywhere banana. leaves just reaching over into all the. booths it was in one of the fanciest. malls in the town it was beautiful the. cafe was often used as like a a meeting. spot for jakarta's wealthiest families. and the decoration really reflected that. you have these like Dark Forest the the. hunter green leather booths that are. surrounded by all of this live plants. every where just so much Greenery it.

feels it feels like a paradise they had. these golden bar stools at this Marble. Bar in the whole Cafe it it was. beautiful the elite would gather there. and debie knew that discretion was a big. part of her job and I'm sure just. brushing past these patrons on a daily. basis making sure everyone's well fed. everyone's being assisted I'm sure she. heard a few things or two like come on. perhaps she overheard the businessman. trying to convince his mistress I swear.

I'm going to leave my wife this month. it's going to happen this month I swear. definitely maybe she walked by a group. of middle-aged women over there deep in. conversation one of them is planning to. leave her husband for her trainer you. know listen I'm not sure what she. overheard on this particular day January. 6th 2016 I'm sure she would forget most. of it by the end of the day all of it. would pale in comparison to what was. about to happen in one of the booths. there were three women sitting Jessica.

hanon and Mna they had all graduated. from the same college and now they're. reconnecting again there was so much to. catch up on one of them was recently. married she's planning her honeymoon. another one is focused on her career and. another one is living in Australia but. visiting Indonesia for the holidays and. she's single again okay it should have. been an exciting time for them to catch. up and the booth should have been filled. with all these like loud giggles and. screams and oh my gosh right but one of.

the girls wasn't feeling well Mna was. always the center of the conversation. not because she wanted to be but because. she was like the glue in the friend. group she was the one that kept the. conversation very Lively she was not. quiet she had her hand on her head. almost as if she was like suffering from. a sudden migraine and the other two. girls they kept glancing at her they. were concerned but they don't want to. call it out and keep asking her you know. what's wrong what's wrong and in the. matter of seconds Mna leaned her head. against the booth and she start started.

covering one of her ears as if she has. this crazy migraine and any little noise. could trigger it white foam starts. bubbling out of her mouth and she starts. convulsing screams for help start coming. out of this booth you know someone help. please help call 112 please you have to. hurry please help Debbie the manager she. runs to the booth she's assessing the. situation taking it all in and she like. everybody else in that Cafe all the. staff all the other random civilians. their most solid guess was that Mna had.

some sort of pre-existing health. condition she's young She's Fit she must. have perhaps epilepsy some sort of. condition that would make her have. seizures one of the friends at the table. was now an emotional wreck she's. screaming at everyone you have to go. call 1112 get help right now we need to. get to the hospital ASAP de's eyes. floated to the third girl she's standing. back stiff unmoving I mean her friend is. literally convulsing and she's just. standing there emotionless and she just.

stared as deie and the employees along. with the emotional friend are trying to. tend to Mna her eyes are kind of darting. back and forth like she's looking from. person to person and the scene is. unfolding she's got her hands in front. of her clasped like this and ever so. slightly deie saw her scratch at them. scratch at her hand yeah okay and then. she makes eye contact with the manager. and she says.

what did you put in the coffee what it. was exactly that's the reaction debie. had what it's so Random it's such a. bizarre reaction it's so unsettling she. was the manager was insulted I mean she. like most people like I said thought. that Mna had some sort of pre-existing. health condition like epilepsy but now. she's being accused of poisoning the. coffee or that there's some sort of. Tainted chemical in the coffee mhm. Debbie glanced at the cup of coffee on. the table and it did have a strange Hue. to it she ordered one of the staff to.

preserve it in the back she just had. this gut feeling that there was. something wrong and she wanted to prove. that she was innocent that this Cafe did. nothing yeah just everything about this. situation the way she saw this so-called. friend sitting there scratching at her. hands in her lap emotionless it would. send chills down her back later as soon. as Mna arrived at the hospital they. checked her vitals and she was dead they. tried CPR but nothing worked and at 6:30.

p.m. that day she was pronounced dead. about an hour after she met up with her. old College friends for a quick catch-up. session her pupils were dilated she. wasn't responding to any light she. wasn't breathing and no matter what the. doctors did they just could not get her. heart pumping again she was gone and her. loved ones they were left with I mean. obviously all this grief and trauma but. also this overwhelming mystery was left. with all of Indonesia and the Mystery is. what the hell happened to.

[Music]. Mna as always full show notes are. available at Rotten mango podcast.com. this case took place in Indonesia in. 2016 we had our wonderful Indonesian.

researcher help assist in the research. of this they informed me though that. there is a lot of misinformation out. there or okay I wouldn't say. misinformation but a lot of. untrustworthy sources that have been. floating around so we did our best to be. pretty mindful in avoiding them but if. you're doing your own research just be. careful it's this was also a case that. was pretty viral at the time and of. course with that there's often rumors. and fake accounts that are created to. just stir the pot so with that being. said let's get started the Billy blue.

College of design in Australia it it. kind of had these little pockets of. communities within its school so all the. South Korean exchange students they. would find each other and they would be. friends and I I think it's the feeling. of okay well no one's really going to. understand my innate struggles unless. they're in the same circumstances as me. so then the Indonesian exchange students. they did the same thing it it was almost. like each of these students were like. their own little magnets and they would. be around campus until slowly each day.

of the semester would pass they would. get closer and closer and closer. together and at the center of all of. this was Mna she was the ultimate magnet. for the Indonesian exchange students. people just really wanted to be near her. I think Mna knew herself really well and. she was very confident in her own skin. and that's not to say that she's a. perfect person nobody is but I think. people like people who know themselves. like just someone who's not trying too. hard to please others that's who was she.

almost had this innate Confidence from. within that comes off really really. attractive and charismatic to people. including a girl named Jessica wongu. she's a fellow Indonesian exchange. student and Mna was Jessica's best. friend during college days okay the two. have so much in common they're both from. Indonesia they had very similar. childhoods in Indonesia where they were. upper class you know kids they went to. all the fancy schools in Indonesia now. they're studying abroad. without their families they're going.

through like the same motions the same. emotions as well but the main difference. between the two girls I would say. personalities just so vastly different. like I said Mna is incredibly sociable. Jessica on the other hand not so much so. she was much more reserved and shy Mna. would constantly encourage her like go. talk to people make friends like what. we're all the way you only have one life. we're all the way here in Australia like. just have fun but Jessica would think to.

herself yeah okay well so easy for you. to say cuz you're freaking. perfect it's interesting okay Jessica. was the type of person that she did not. let people in very easily but when she. did she would put in so much effort into. maintaining a friendship with them she's. the type of friend that would absolutely. never forget your birthday so do in part. to Jessica's persistence Jessica and Mna. they stayed really close during just the. entirety of College they did Welcome two.

more girls into their friend group so it. was like the four girls right but. Jessica always felt like you know what. Han and Vera they're here because. they're fun but it's me and Mna like. we're the center of this group we're the. two best buds but all of that would. change once they graduate college I'm. sure like the weeks leading up to. college graduation they're like no we're. going to be friends forever we're going. to like buy houses on the same block and. raise our kids together but everyone has. their own life plan and so naturally. after they graduate they're paths are. kind of growing apart or some of them.

are colliding right and the Dynamics are. shifting so Mna was engaged to Arif and. she had plans to move back to Indonesia. with him she wanted to start her own. career start her own family with Arif. and Hani one of the four girls she was. going back to Indonesia after her. studies as well so naturally Mna and Han. are going to grow closer together that. makes sense right and as for Jessica. Jessica wangu she wants to stay in. Australia she had found work and she had. her boyfriend Patrick that she had been.

dating for a while so it just kind of. made sense now right after graduation. they were like yeah we're going to do. like girls night every Wednesdays and. Thursdays and Fridays but then everyone. started getting their own jobs everyone. started making plans to move back like. it was it was a lot they started seeing. each other less and less and they're. already drifting apart before MAA and. Han even moved to Indonesia and add to. that like most friend groups I think. drama was inevitable okay there was a. public falling out between two of the.

girls Jessica wongu had walked into a. restaurant in Sydney Australia she's. carrying this little gift box perfectly. wrapped beautifully wrapped and this was. somewhat of like an upscale restaurant. she dressed all cute she was very. excited for this dinner reservation she. told the waiter the name of her friend. Mna who made the reservation and she's. being led to the table where her friend. is waiting for her now Jessica obviously. expected Mna that's who the present was. for but she was not expecting to see. merna's fiance a.

also there you're saying okay so she's. kind of like oh I was hoping this would. be like a girl's dinner I mean it was. just supposed to be us two finally. catching up but that's weird Jessica. asked to take Mna out for dinner to. celebrate maa's birthday and she just. wasn't expecting an extra guest but you. know what whatever so Jessica sits down. in the chair across from Mna and AR reef. and she tries to make the best of it she. puts the gift box on the table Mna opens. it up it's this beautiful dress and. she's like oh my God it's it's lovely.

thank you and Jessica's like no no no no. don't worry about it I was just thinking. about you so then she puts the Box aside. M's like okay well how has life been. like I feel like it's been forever so. Jessica had known arief for a couple of. years but she wasn't she wasn't really. close with him he's not someone that she. would necessarily call a friend to her. Arif was just a friend's fiance that's. it just along for the ride Jessica. acknowledged his presence and then. started spilling the tea to Mna and M's.

like you're still with Patrick right. like how's that going this was kind of a. sore spot for Jessica yeah Mna and Arif. were the perfect couple everyone thought. so they met early on in college they've. been strong ever since and Jessica could. not help but compare herself and Patrick. to their relationship it just didn't. feel nice Patrick was this very toxic. person it's like he knew that all. Jessica had left in Australia was him. that's like he knew that all of her.

College friends were moving back to. Indonesia so she confided in Mna in the. past about how you know sometimes. Patrick would take advantage of the fact. that Jessica relied on him for emotional. support she said I just don't really. feel respected in the. relationship sometimes the fights would. get so bad she said that she would lock. herself in the bathroom and stare at the. razor blade on the sink she said that. she had to gather all of the mental. strength to just keep herself from. picking it up.

but sometimes she wasn't that strong and. she still has all the scars to remember. I mean of course of course any friend. listening to this is going to be Beyond. concern and Mna asked again and Jessica. responded alarmingly she said yeah it's. actually gotten worse with Patrick and. Mna is looking at her with a look that. is becoming very very familiar to. Jessica which is very compassionate very. concerned very worried but also there. was a little bit of pity and she says. Jessica I think you'd be so much happier. without him she doesn't respond MAA.

continues it's just I know it's not any. of my business but just seeing you. unhappy and like you already told me. about all of his bad habits and his bad. financial choices and like you said. sometimes your scared is going to get. violent I just I feel like you should. leave him you know she didn't know what. to say so Jessica said nothing she. didn't even move maybe a part of it was. that she felt like m was going to say. that maybe a part of it was that she.

knew that Mna was right I don't know but. a part of Jessica started getting angry. doesn't this girl know that Patrick is. all I have left everyone's leaving back. to Indonesia literally what do you mean. leave him that's all I have I'm not like. perfect Mna who can just make friends. and date anyone that I want it's not. like I have the perfect boyfriend like. AR who's just going to take care of me. and respect me she's getting angrier and. angrier and it just feels like Mna never. has to struggle for anything and Mna.

doesn't even understand and suddenly. Jessica's anger just boils over and she. gets up and she. leaves she walks out on the dinner she. doesn't make an excuse she doesn't say. oh my gosh this is so random guys but I. have to go projectile vomit she doesn't. say oop I just got a text message of an. emergency she just gets up and. leaves wow yeah that's kind of wild yeah. Mna tries texting and calling her but.

she doesn't even have the energy to. respond maybe a part of her is even a. bit embarrassed of how she handled this. uncomfortable dinner right she never. responded instead Jessica watched on. Facebook as Mna moves back to Indonesia. starts her wedding prep she she watches. mirina reunite with her family buy an. apartment with a reef show off her. engagement ring try on wedding dresses. Jessica thought okay I I think I'm going. to get invited to the wedding like I. know that we had this whole falling out. it was bad it was award but I was like. her best friend for what 4 years maybe.

the wedding is going to bring us. together the days went by and Jessica. would keep checking her mailbox right. and that letter never. came she found out that Mna had gotten. married from the wedding photos on. Facebook it was of course a fairy tale. wedding Mna and AR vowed to each other a. lifetime of happiness November of 2015. in Bali Indonesia it was the destination. wedding it was lavish but it was it was. still fun and relatable I mean you had.

the sunset you had the beach the outdoor. tent with sheer curtains and the. chandeliers hanging from above it was. beautiful Jessica scrolled through the. photos and she's like why was I not. invited the other two girls Vera and. hanon they were invited and she's. feeling like it's not like I asked her. to be her bridesmaid her maid of. honor what and she turned off her phone. to Jessica maybe it felt like a very. painful contrast to her own life 3 days.

later she was fired from her job a. little while after that like a few weeks. after that her relationship with Patrick. ended it was a very very messy breakup. like I'm talking police got involved. type of. messy what she had no one to see nowhere. to go she was truly and completely alone. and she was hospitalized twice for. attempts on her own life during the. months of October and November she's. going through like the worst period of. her life and she felt like she has. nobody to turn to so she takes this deep.

breath she's looking around her room. probably thinking about her life and she. reaches out to Mna she doesn't tell her. everything that's happened she just says. hey I'm going to go back to Indonesia to. hang out with family and I think it'll. be nice to just be in a familiar place. like be back home for once but do you. want to grab some coffee and when. Jessica reached out it was arranged that. both M and Han were going to meet with. her for a coffee date very exciting and. since Jessica's one inviting them she's. doing all the planning she chooses the.

spot she's like okay Olivier Cafe in. jakarta's most expensive Mall um very. upscale she even offered to pay for the. drinks like in the group chat she's like. oh let me drinks are on me and of course. everyone's like no no no don't worry. about it but Jessica is insisting she. stated that she and Mna had left off on. such a bad note that she wanted to make. up for it so then it was settled the. coffee date was set for Olivia Cafe at. 5:00 p.m. Jessica would walk through the. doors of the cafe at 3 :3 p.m. a full 90.

minutes. early and this part is so interesting to. me I imagine if I arrived anywhere 90. minutes early I would either walk around. the mall since this is inside of a mall. right even if you're not shopping just. do some eye shopping or I would grab my. phone or my Kindle and plop in the cafe. and wait while I just busy myself mhm. but Jessica does something very bizarre. she orders three drinks she orders two. cocktails one for her one for hone. because she asked for their orders right.

and then she gets a Vietnamese iced. coffee from Mna but she arrives so early. in fact that if she got the drinks now. and sat down all the ice would have been. melted by the times the others have. arrived yeah so she tells the waiter hey. I'm going to be right back but uh I'm. going to pay for the drinks but you're. going to make them when I get back it's. really weird wait wait wait what do you. mean be right back like she's leaving. the cafe yeah she's going to go hang out. in the mall but she's ordering the. drinks minutes early yeah okay so she's.

basically going in there and being like. hey guys I'm not going to sit down right. now but these are the drinks I'm going. to want in like an hour and everyone's. like okay it's really weird like why. don't you come back in an hour and order. it why are you just letting us know. maybe she wants to pay for it ahead of. time and yeah so she does pay for it um. some people think it's like the the. Asian way because you know at the end. you fight for the bill and then chances. are you might not get it so maybe she.

wanted to pay for it early but it is. very odd behavior to even stop by like I. imagine if I got to the mall at 3:30 I. would walk around and then I would get. there maybe like 15 minutes early and. then pay for the drinks M but to go at. 3:30 a full 90 minutes early and be like. I'll be right back it's kind of weird. right yeah so she leaves the cafe and we. don't know all the stores that she goes. into but we do know that she goes into a. Bath and Body Works she buys three. bottles of soap listen I used to be. obsessed with Bath & Body Works back in.

the day even if you get the biggest size. of soap it's not as big as their bags. their bags are designed to fit multiple. candles and multiple bottles of soap. it's designed to fit a lot of stuff. Jessica asks for three separate bags and. these are not like the mini bags they. have these are like their regular. full-size bags and one bag for each soap. maybe I thought okay we don't know cuz. it never happened but maybe her plan her. intention was to give each of them a. soap mhm so she gets a soap and Mna gets.

a soap and honey gets a soap right but. anyway she buys the Soaps walks 2. minutes back to ol ofia Cafe and then. she does like a like a walk around. around the cafe she's not following a. wait or anything this is presumed I mean. you can think of it in two ways some. people think of it as well maybe she's. just scoping it out to see the most. intimate part of the restaurant cuz it's. her first time meeting her friends in a. while maybe they want to talk about some. crazy things or spill some juicy tea. maybe she's got some crazy gossip about. Patrick right other half of people are.

thinking oh she's scoping out where the. CCTV cameras are H yeah so after or she. could be finding like a good spot yeah. do whatever yeah. but you know sometimes I'm trying to. imagine when I walk into a restaurant I. do look for good seats if it's. relatively empty but I can usually. visually see everything and I'm like oh. okay like that one or like over there. looks quieter and not near the little.

entryway so did she pick a gassie yeah. she picks a booth and it's a good seat. because there were about two CCTV. cameras pointed at that Booth one of. them was covered by an overgrown fiddle. leaf plant so she wants to be in CCTV or. she wants to the the tree to cover tree. to cover it's yeah so uh the booths were. connected okay if you really want to. visualize it it's a green leather booth. that's like a half circle okay and then.

there's like this round black table so. that you can put your drinks and your. food on right and then the other side is. like relatively empty no one's going to. sit there and it's not like this booth. was in a secluded dark corner away from. everything else like nothing in this. Cafe was like that this is in the middle. of the cafe there's another Booth. exactly right next to it and it's. assumed that again Jessica chose this. booth because the closest C CCTV camera. was covered by an overgrown plant. however there's another camera on the. other wall that has a clear view of the.

table so Jessica sits down inside the. booth she puts the Bath and Body Works. bags on the table the restaurant had. customers it wasn't super busy but it it. wasn't like during prime time so there. was a little bit of LOL in business. there were a lot of um there were more. empty seats than there were taken seats. okay there's this soft steady hum of. conversation 50 minutes after she first. entered Oliver Cafe the waiter serves. her the two cocktails and the Vietnamese.

coffee this happen at like 4:20 p.m. they meet at 5:00 still 40 minutes I. mean the ice is going to melt for sure. the waiter makes the Vietnamese coffee. at the table he's busy pouring the hot. water through the espresso Jessica is. also busy she's Shifting the Bath and. Body Works bags just ever so slightly. like inch by inch she would kind of. nudge it a little and then nudge it a. little more and then nudge it a little. more very very slowly wait is there CCTV. footage of all the of this yeah oh my. goodness and then uh eventually the iced.

coffee was completely covered on all. CCTV cameras by the big Bath and Body. Works bags yeah the waiter had finished. making it and he leaves Mna and Han. aren't due to arrive for like at least. another 30 minutes CCTV cameras have a. clear view of the cocktails but not of. the coffee because of the Bath and Body. Works bags at 4:30 Jessica opens up her. purse with both of her back both of her.

hands she reaches in turns her head to. the left then to the right and then. pulls out her hand she puts something on. the table but CCTV is not able to see. what she put there because the footage. is so grainy and when she placed it on. the table she put it behind the Bath and. Body Works bags so we don't know what's. there the camera catches her moving her. arms behind the bags but again we don't. know what she's doing meanwhile arief is. dropping off his wife Mna at the cafe he. dropped her off and he promised to pick.

her up when she was done he drove her to. the front of the mall where she was. going to meet with Jessica and Han and. he pulled the car to a stop and she's. like unbuckling her seat Bel he's like. okay well I'm going to pick you up in a. couple of hours and then maybe we can. grab dinner she's like Yay I'll text you. when we're almost ready Mna glances out. the window towards the mall and she sees. honey so she's like oh oh my God that's. honey like got to go love you bye and. she runs out the door so Arif is kind of. smiling at this point you know I feel. like for him even just dropping Mna off. for a coffee date like that was an honor.

for him he had met Mna back in college. and originally he was just one of one of. M's many many friends he felt like he. was like this moth to a flame and she. was like the only light bulb in the Dark. Knight and she must have felt similarly. to him because their friendship would. evolve into a full-blown relationship. they stayed together all throughout. college and when Mna graduated the two. of them decided to take the next step. they were going to move in together move. back to Indonesia be with their families.

and start a family of their own MAA got. a job at her father's company and okay. when I say father's company it sounds. like she's like a neppo baby her family. is very wealthy right but she works. really really really really hard to make. her father proud she was the owner of. one of the branches of her family's. business and she managed a bunch of. other um other like uh factories from. other branches so her dad owned like a. plastic container business they export. products all over Asia and is booming so.

yeah she did get the position because of. her dad but all the employees they could. attest that she was incredibly. hardworking her work ethic was something. that even AR admired about his wife but. his absolute favorite thing about Mna. probably her humility or her dimpled. smile so with maa's upbringing a lot of. people are actually very surprised that. she's so very humble I mean I think she. just had it in her I suppose so Mna has. a twin named Sandy they were both so.

spoiled by their dad he was this scary. astute businessman but his weakness were. his girls he had three girls Mna Sandy. and a younger daughter and the twins Mna. and Sandy they were identical twins so. he would take pleasure in dressing them. identically it was like a cute little. stick they had when they were younger it. was like double the cuteness probably. most likely Double the Trouble right but. as they grow up they he's really just. embrac seeing that both of them have. complete and utter opposite.

personalities so they would go to the. same schools and just to give you. perspective on how wealthy they were. even before they studied abroad in. Australia they went to some of the best. institutions in Jakarta they went to. Jubilee school which is an international. private school that is associated with. the Cambridge International School it's. considered one of the most expensive. international schools in all of. Indonesia and so after that they're sent. abroad to study which is very very. costly and even though the twins they. were like each other's best friend they.

lived completely separate lives they had. completely different Hobbies they had. completely different interests and. completely different friend groups and I. think that's so much cooler the fact. that they didn't even like the same. things but they were basically soulmates. if that makes sense they just found. peace with each other and they were both. very well behaved it said people said. Mna and Sandy were always the type of. students that were incredibly helpful I. think they were very proud of their. father and did not want to make him look.

bad yeah they're very humble both of. them but I digress so after dropping her. off Arif goes back home to resume. planning their long awaited. honeymoon so this is January 2016 they. had plans to visit South Korea in April. of 2016 which is arguably the nicest. time to visit um the weather is. beautiful and it was going to be if they. were lucky their last trip without kids. yeah cuz maa's twin Sandy she had kids.

of her own and the two twins dreamed of. you know how soon Mna was going to have. her own family and their little kids. would run around with each other and. hopefully they would be as close to each. other as the two sisters were right so. AR would plan his honeymoon when he got. home by the evening that same day he. would be planning a. funeral Mna and Han arrive at the cafe. at 5:15 p.m. they meet out in the front. and they walk in together they tell the. waiter the name of the Reser Jessica and. he leads them over to Jessica's Booth.

the drinks have been at the table for 55. minutes at this point the ice in the. coffee has completely melted but I. digress both Mna and Han they slide into. the booth so Mna is in the middle of um. the two girls mhm so Jessica's on one. Edge and then Han's on the other and. then Jessica is seen motioning to the. drinks like this is for you you know. Murray you said you wanted the. Vietnamese iced coffee you said you. wanted the cocktail that is crazy yeah.

Mna drinks a sip or two of it and out. loud Mna says oh my God this tastes. awful here try it she pushes the coffee. towards Han hanie picks up the glass. smells it she kind of like you she's. wrinkling her nose she takes the tiniest. little sip and at this point Mna is kind. of like Fanning her hand in front of her. mouth like uh uh like it almost like a. burning motion like it's hot it's hot. type of motion honey agrees oh that that. tastes weird she passes it on for.

Jessica to try but Jessica's like oh no. thanks I don't really want that if you. guys are both saying it's nasty why. would I take a sip right within seconds. maa's head is rolled down to the back of. the booth her eyes roll into the back of. her head and she begins to convulse wow. that was instant yeah Han sees Jessica. shake her head at the. table and Han's eye is caught by sudden. movement and it's Mna so Jessica shaking.

her head like I don't want to sip uhhuh. and then in her peripheral vision Han. sees Mna convulsing so she jumps up. immediately and Han is screaming help. help someone help call 112 Jessica is. sitting Frozen in the booth next to Mna. and the restaurant is silent all eyes. are on hany she's like please please. someone help I don't know what's. happening the cafe manager deie comes. rushing out and she sees Mna convulsing. and the foam coming out of her mouth and. she turns to the waiter that is standing. behind her and she's like go get the.

police she rushes over to Mna and she's. like holding her head to keep it from. banging on the table cuz she's losing. Consciousness Han quickly catches on. rushes over as well and is protecting. like maa's flailing limbs from the hard. Ed of edge of the table cuz she's. convulsing Jessica she's emotionless her. eyes are just kind of darting back and. forth watching the chaos happened and. her hands are on her in her lap but. they're clasped together and she's kind. of like slightly itching her.

Palms kind of like. itching and hone says to the manager to. no one in particular really she just sat. down and took a few sips and then the. seizures started this has never happened. before deie looks at the glass of coffee. that's still on the table and it's. mostly full she calls another waiter. over and she's like huh this is. interesting now this is when Jessica is. like what did you put in the. coffee wow and deie is insulted so deie. is like okay waiter bring me water and.

take the coffee back to the kitchen. don't let anybody touch it Jessica must. be freaking out at that point then yeah. I mean Debbie was really not happy with. the suggestion that her coffee had. caused this to happen they had followed. all the procedures and all the protocols. when making their food I mean there was. just no way still she did notice that it. had a strange yellowish tint when the. waiter took it out a lot of people said. it looked like turmeric coffee like a. golden latte you know mhm so she chocked. it up up to maybe the cafe lighting is. weird like it's kind of like that warm.

Cafe lighting maybe in the back you can. see it better cuz it's the kitchen. lights so debie calls the waiter over. hey is the coffee in the back yeah put. it in a clean glass jar and put a lid on. it and keep the coffee. glass wow so that waiter comes running. to tell debie that the ambulance was. close the mall's medical staff arrived. with the wheelchair and they carrying. Mna they're Wheeling Mna to the front of. the mall so the ambulance can get to her. quicker as Mna was being wheeled away. honey had glanced and there was this.

middle-aged woman standing in the middle. of the dining room and she had her eyes. squeezed tightly and her hands were. pressed. together she was praying as hard as she. could for Mna the other patrons had. joined her and some of them even had. their hands clasped in front of them. others reached out and touched the. shoulders of those who were praying and. the whole restaurant seemed to be. pleading to the highest power that they. knew of that Mna would get home safe. tonight. except.

Jessica Mna was wheeled out of the. restaurant and Han was running after the. team with her phone in her hand she's. calling AR telling him to meet her at. the hospital ASAP meanwhile back at the. cafe a waiter is holding merna's glass. of Vietnamese coffee back in the kitchen. and he's studying it and he tells. another waiter hey come here one of the. co-workers comes over is that from table. 54 yeah it is the coffee like a tumor. coffee the cooworker looked at it. usually Vietnamese coffee is like a dark.

dark brown so besides sweetened. condensed milk the only other thing in. there is ice and espresso the ice was. melted but it doesn't really it just. dilutes the color it shouldn't make it a. different color this coffee was not dark. brown it was not light brown it was more. of like a dark orange like a very deep. yellow in the shadow it might look. acceptable but now that they were. looking at it in the bright fluorescent. lights of the kitchen they could see it. as plain as day it was just such a bizar. shade the first waiter sniffs the coffee.

kind of smells weird he pushes it in the. second waiter's face the second waiter. Taps his finger against the top of the. coffee surface so that a tiny little. drop of coffee was on his finger then he. brings it to his mouth stuck out his. tongue and tasted it no he said. instantly his tongue felt a little bit. tingly and the coffee tasted really. bitter so the first waiter pours the. coffee from the glass into a clean jar. and throws maa's used straw away and.

keeps the coffee cup debie comes back. into the kitchen with them and Mna had. already been rushed out of the cafe so. there's not much that she could do she's. looking at the coffee and she sniffs it. she takes the tiniest tiniest little sip. like waiter number two and after a. second she said her mouth was tingling. it was burning she put the coffee down. she instructed her staff to label the. jar undrinkable and store it in a safe. place just in case now I just want to. mention at this point deie was still.

under the belief that Mna had some sort. of pre-existing medical. condition I think everyone did okay so. nobody draw the connection that no. coffee killed her yeah I think it was. more of like why did that girl accuse us. of doing something to her coffee we. would never do something to her coffee. and we serve this coffee every single. day we serve it tableside it's like an. experience so it it does look weird like. maybe the milk went bad I think that was. the the mindset it wasn't like oh do you. think someone put poison in the coffee.

let's try it got it more like oh that's. so weird right so they kept the coffee. and all of these feelings of maybe she. had a pre-existing health condition they. would all change very soon but her gut. feeling of keeping this coffee would. provide the police with some of the best. evidence in this whole case and this. whole case would soon escalate into one. of the most explosive murder trials that. was ever tell advised for the whole. nation of Indonesia to.

spectate wow Arie found out when Hani. called him in a. panic and he said at first it didn't. even register like he knew it was Han. calling him he knew it was honey when he. picked up but he was like no she's got. the wrong number it just didn't click. saw her a few hours ago he's making. dinner plans for when she got home he. was planning their. honeymoon I don't think the grief would. hit him until he came back home and that.

feeling of wow okay her shoes are in the. closet her keys are on the counter her. dishes are in the sink but I'm never. going to see her. again and we just started our lives. together when Mna was brought to the. hospital at first glance it looked like. she had suffered from a seizure that was. the Doctor's first idea but the main. cause of death from a seizure is. suffocation and without an autopsy they. wouldn't know for sure she and her. family were very religious the.

overwhelming religious majority in. Indonesia is Islam but I I don't know. for sure what their religion was. typically though according to many. religions autopsies are frowned upon. autopsies um they're actually incredibly. invasive you to like break the chest. plate often times it it's a lot and. breaking the bone of a dead person is. considered the same weight of a sin as. breaking the bone of a living person in. a lot of religions so either way you're.

harming a person and that's a sin so. typically autopsies don't happen unless. they're absolutely necessary in this. case it was necessary so merna's family. they wanted the autopsy to be as. minimally invasive as possible they cons. sended to a partial autopsy side note. while the medical examiners were. conducting an autopsy the police. received the coffee from the cafe and. they were running their own test and do. you know how much cyanide it takes to. kill someone. listen I am out here just putting myself. on every single FBI watch list so that.

you don't have to but apparently it. takes about 2 milligrams of cyanide per. kilogram of body weight for it to be a. lethal dose of. cyanide okay one more time 2 milligrams. of cyanide per kilogram of body weight. so you would need more cyanide than I. would it's very small amount yeah it's a. very small amount it's a pill taking a. supplement and then opening the contents. yeah type of level it's very small. amount you're not talking like a brick. of cocaine is that what you're trying to. share like a small small amount well.

it's a small small amount but also I'm. trying to share how much is in this. coffee okay so this is not an exact. science I mean some people probably have. I'm sure health conditions Personal. Fitness all of that plays into a rle and. I don't think it's like oh for sure 2. milligrams per weight and you're gone so. there is some fluctuation and I'm not. giving you step by steps on how to use. cyanide but according to the CDC it. takes around 150 mg to kill a full grown. average weight adult male in the US now.

if we're going at 2 Mig per kilogram 150. Mig is enough to kill someone that. weighs 165 lb maa's Vietnamese coffee. contained a whole whopping 300 Mig of. cyanide it's a lot that's almost the. double amount needed to kill an adult. male mhm but you say she only take one. sip now here's the thing I think. everyone's sips were different so you. know when you like run into a cafe.

you're probably like in the Heat and you. sit down and you're like oh that looks. so good you take a big healthy gulp now. when she says taste it it's disgusting. everyone's going to take a tiny Sip and. then the waiters it's not their coffee. they're taking a drop yes so I do think. that she took a maybe multiple sips wow. I don't think it was like oh this is. interesting you know like taking a. little cuz it's a coffee she knows what. it tastes like I just can't imagine. being like let me take the tiniest sip. yeah wow I feel like you take a few sips.

and then you're like oh wait this is. what's going on with this coffee yeah. and I wonder the 300 milligram you said. is the leftover that's probably not. including how much she already consumed. MH yeah so this is where it gets really. really strange let's talk about her. first partial autopsy the doctors took. samples of merna's bile liver and urine. 70 minutes after her death side note uh. bile is the liquid that the liver makes. when it it it stores it in the. gallbladder and it helps with digestion. now these samples showed no.

abnormalities I know it's strange but. that's what the results said so the. coffee is testing for crazy lethal. amounts of Cyanide and merna's body is. fine like what's going on AR and the. rest of merna's family they had no. answers it's very confusing how did the. partial autopsy not bring up any traces. of. cyanide so at the risk of sounding. stupid on the internet I'm going to try. and break down how this may have. happened I'm not saying this is what. happened but these are the speculations. when you eat or drink something the food.

goes into your stomach and then your. intestines that's where the nutrients. are absorbed then the blood carries the. nutrients into the liver which filters. everything out to make sure that you're. not digesting any toxins then all the. nutrients travel on their little Merry. way to whatever cells need them it's. crazy what your body does like it's kind. of insane don't quote me on any of this. but it's a very complicated process. other than just like I eat it and now. it's in my blood system right now. cyanide works like a greedy little. monster cyanide attaches to all of the.

oxygen it can find inside of your body. it leaves none for the rest of your C it. makes you weak dizzy it gives you. headaches it can mess with your. awareness and can render you unconscious. it can send you into a coma and it can. even take your life all of this can. happen in the matter of seconds. depending on the. dosage wow so maybe it wasn't showing up. because it had happened too soon to her. body for it to be detected in her bile. urine or liver you know got it so we.

never even made it that far yeah so the. family was forced to consent to another. partial autopsy the doctors took a. sample of the contents of her stomach. and then analyzed it the test came back. positive for Cyanide and while. extracting the sample from merna's. stomach the doctor also noted that all. of merna's intestines appeared. corroded which could point to poison. they also noted that merna's mouth which. would would have been the first point of. entry for the cide her mouth her gums.

her tongue her cheek on the inside all. of it was black oh my goodness it was C. it was pretty clear to the doctors that. she had died of cyanide poisoning she. had been. murdered the case at this point had. already reached the public eye because. of the nature you know it happened in. the mall during daylight in the middle. of a cafe to a perfectly healthy young. woman and an upper class establishment. on top of that because there was no. official answers the public they started. making up their own theories we're going. to explore some of these theories but. just keep in mind these are theories and.

not real facts so the first theory is. pretty practical Mna had a $5.7 million. life insurance policy and even I was. kind of like raising my eyebrow at that. because Mna is Young she has no health. problems she just got married right but. we have to remember mno is from a. wealthy family she was running one of. the branches of her dad's business she. was quite literally the top manager for. a very lucrative company but more. importantly she our Reef we're about to. start a family it is not uncommon for.

those with a lot of money to think about. getting life insurance around the time. that they start family. planning now the public wasn't thinking. about any of that all they saw was a big. Hefty life insurance payout and they. figured that one of the family members. had something to do with her death sadly. they started pointing the finger at. maa's father I'm not sure why it was her. father I mean typically it's the husband. that gets accused and often times is the. one that does it but maybe since they. just got married maybe everyone believed. her father was still listed as the.

beneficiary of her life insurance this. specific information is not public but. it's the only reason I can think of that. why the public would go after the dad in. the end they dropped the theory because. nobody touched merna's life insurance. policy nobody claimed the money the. money stayed in with the agency for at. least the first few months after merna's. death and I'm sure part of the reason. was because whoever was going to touch. it I mean the public was going to go. after that. So eventually they lose interest that.

was the Practical Theory then we have. the Fantastical Theory and not. Fantastical as in fantastic but. Fantastical as in truly existing only in. some sort of strange Fantasy Land the. business competition Theory Olivia Cafe. was a popular destination they had been. open for about a year and they were. bound to have competitors the idea was. that what if one of their competitors. spiked the ingredients of the Vietnamese. coffee that only m drank from that Booth. remember cuz the other two girls had. cocktails or even it was that specific.

cup was spiked in the hopes that one of. the customers would get sick and would. make Oliver Cafe look bad and lose all. of their business the theory was crazy. but it was debunked because Oliver Cafe. had served another 10 Vietnamese iced. coffees that day before MAA came in. nobody else was sick also in this. specific Cafe like I mentioned the. waiter makes the Vietnamese coffee at. the table in front of you it's part of. the price it's like the show the waiter. brings out the sweetened condensed milk. pours it in a glass then brings out the.

coffee grinds puts them through the. filter and lets the water seep through. and the whole process is done in front. of not just your table but really the. whole Cafe it's not like a waiter from. the competition came and slipped. something into the drink as it's being. carried out of the. kitchen again you could argue that. something was slipped into the coffee. grounds or the milk but like I mentioned. 10 other coffees had been served prior. to maa's coffee that day it just didn't. add up so this Theory dies down then. another one pops up in its place this.

one was brief but it had the potential. to ruin lives people started pointing. the finger at hone since as far of what. the public knew so far the cafe was in. the clear the coffee was in the clear. that meant that Han was with Mna before. she entered the cafe maybe she poisoned. her then maybe she gave her a little. candy before they walked. in but later when people found out that. hany looked genuinely so upset that she. was the one contacting Emergency. Services organizing how merna's family.

was getting to the hospital making sure. M's head didn't hit the counter people. kind of stopped pointing the finger at. her and they directed it at Jessica but. not for the reason you think let's go. over the last Theory the love triangle. Theory to simplify it people believe. Jessica killed Mna because she wanted. Mna to be with her romantically alleged. screenshots came out of a conversation. between Mna and Jessica and in the. messages they use phrases like I love.

you and I'm really happy I want to kiss. you now our Indonesian researchers said. that that was a major red flag so. apparently you don't really say I love. you to your friends in Indonesia like. that in Indonesian culture that's kind. of a thing that's really only said. between partners the phrase I'm really. happy I want to kiss you doesn't exist. like in America where it's maybe like oh. my God I want to kiss you okay I feel. like maybe in America it's also kind of. interesting but it doesn't it especially. in Indonesia just doesn't really exist. it's it very the translation in.

Indonesian reads quite. literally now lots of people thought. that Jessica and Mna must have been in. some sort of secret lesbian relationship. or that Jessica must have had a crush on. Mna but since Mna was already taken or. she was straight she killed her out of. jealousy I will say one thing to. consider is that these alleged. screenshots could have been 100% faked. now the second thing is they're studying. abroad in Australia even though it might. not seem that common in Indonesian. culture it could have been maybe they.

were getting accustomed to the. Australian way like the American way you. know everyone's like love you love you. non-stop right but then you go to Korea. and no one's saying like to their friend. so casually so maybe it's just a. cultural difference that they got used. to in their college. days but this last Theory would actually. catapult this case not just in Indonesia. but everywhere internationally for the. rest of the world is very intriguing I. guess you know the whole idea that a.

best friend secretly loves the victim. and is so upset that she doesn't love. her back so then she kills her in a cafe. with the Vietnamese diced coffee it was. a whole thing now it was it was pretty. damaging for maa's family even if people. knew it was a rumor in Indonesia the. majority religion is generally not. accepting of lgbtq. relationships that's not to say. Indonesians hate anyone that's not. straight not at all but the general. majority culture looks on these issues.

unfavorably so it was just um it was a. whole. thing so when the investigation opens. the police were looking at maa's husband. father sisters and the people who had. seen her last close family last known. contacts that's the way they start the. investigation but then they go to the C. the cafe they look at the CCTV and they. only have one suspect in mind now. Jessica wangu the same day that they. turned their attention on Jessica the. second partial autopsy is released and.

the police oh they're all hands on deck. 4 days have passed since the murder and. it was abundantly clear that there was. something incredibly wrong with Jessica. they bring in maa's family for. interviews and they're like hey do you. know about her friend Jessica like what. do you have to say about her and they. speak to Moo's father first and his name. is Eddie he he says you know I always. thought of Jessica as my daughter's. strange friend H what do you mean by. that well Jessica was wasn't really that. close with Mna but Jessica acted like.

they were closer than they were Jessica. acted like she knew Mna and the whole. family really well and he said you know. she did very strange things like she. would hug my wife very very tightly when. they first met she would go into our. primary bedroom when she visited the. house look I don't know okay that to me. is kind of crazy yeah like I think even. going into my own parents bedroom I'm. usually knocking or like hey I'm coming. in right but then like to just go into. your as an adult too it's like whoa what.

is going on that's not. normal the police then spoke to Arif and. Arif knew exactly who Jessica was he. told the police officers that Mna was. actually a bit afraid of Jessica and. wanted to distance herself from her he. talked about the last time he saw. Jessica during that meeting during that. little dinner where Jessica up and left. and ever since then you know mno is kind. of a bit iffy about her friendship with. Jessica and. is just all strange to put it quite.

bluntly the reason that hany was there. was because MAA probably didn't want to. be alone with Jessica she's very. cautious of her and that's why they. didn't even invite her to the. wedding very interesting the police. believe they have their killer so at the. end of the month 23 days after merna's. death the police officially announced to. the public that Jessica was their main. suspect and they arrest her the next day. now the first thing they asked of. Jessica was for her to participate in in. a reconstruction of the crime they. wanted to take her back to the cafe and.

have her walk them through everything. that she did where she sat all where she. put the bags all of that the police do. this in order to get an exact idea of. what happened when it happened and how. it happened they were going to use this. alongside the CCTV as evidence in court. Now sources are not clear if she had a. lawyer at this point but I'd like to. think that she didn't because from my. very basic True Crime knowledge I feel. like as a lawyer I would maybe perhaps. possibly not want my client. demonstrating to the police how they put. cyanide in a coffee cup that is my.

non-law school educated opinion if there. are lawyers that think otherwise please. let me know Jessica wholeheartedly. agreed to do this reenactment not only. did she show police officers what. happened that day which is kind of wild. to me because later she pleads not. guilty so she confessed to all she. doesn't really confess she just says. like then she put her hands up like. this so it's like really weird right but. the whole time she's acting like she's. on some sort of TV show she's smiling. she's posing off camera she tries.

chitchatting with the officers like. they're on set filming some sort of TV. show there's this one picture of her. where she's leaning up against the bar. and she's facing away from the bar so. she's like leaned back against the bar. and she's got her full prison uniform. like this bright orange color name tag. and everything and she's smiling like. someone who is you know just leisurely. hanging out at the bar it's like she is. playing a prisoner on Graz. Anatomy there's like 20 officers around. her that just have the most serious.

expression on their faces like this. cannot be real right now like this I'm. so. confused after arresting her the. Indonesian police actually asked the. Australian police to release information. they had on her during her stay they're. looking for things like speeding tickets. major purchases just anything really now. the Australian police agreed under one. condition if found guilty Jessica would. not be sentenced to death so Indonesia. still has the death penalty but. Australia doesn't and they did not want. their actions to potentially contribute. to someone's death even if it their.

murder and Indonesia is like yeah yeah. sounds good now Jessica's Australian. file is. insane insane August of 2015 Jessica. gets into a car accident just a few. months before maa's wedding she was. driving her car in Sydney she was drunk. and she decided that she was going to. floor it straight into the brick wall of. a nursing home which listen I'm not a. big drinker and I've never driven Under. the Influence like this part is kind of.

confusing to me either she was so. intoxicated and potentially falling. asleep at the wheel amongst other things. but I've just never heard of people. driving into literal buildings like this. like I've heard of people getting a DUI. because they drove into a pole on the. street like no one I personally know. okay but like on the news you know they. drive into a pole or another car or a. pedestrian or like a building on the. side of the street but I would imagine. like a nursing home has a parking lot. around it. right so that would be some really.

really Hefty drunk driving the brick. wall was completely obliterated so it. seems like she was going pretty fast too. thankfully no residents were on that. side of the property at the time no one. was hurt except Jessica she had a couple. of cracked ribs and some chest pain as. well as a shiny new DUI charge she was. actually supposed to appear in court. February of 2016 but she wouldn't be. able to make it because she was in jail. in Indonesia for. murder yeah not only that but people a.

lot of people ratted Jessica out to the. cops so Jessica was facing like $15,000. in fines and legal fees for her drunk. driving incident she texted colleagues. and Friends where she was openly proudly. talking about fleeing the country she. literally texted a friend hey I could. use the money to have like an epic. holiday have new licenses anywhere and. my dad has power too rather than giving. the money to those police those. ignorant in another one when she texts. I'm being pushed again and again and I. will break side note since we're on the.

topic of conversations on texts these. are not the only texts that Jessica sent. that were seen by Indonesian officers. even before her arrest after the murder. Jessica was texting friends talking. about how she was so shaken up about. what happened to Mna about how upset she. was she even texted one friend back in. Australia like I came here because a. particular someone was bothering me but. even here like all all these bad things. are happening to. me but it doesn't end there Jessica had.

the audacity to text merna's own twin. sister Sandy an article about poisonous. coffee truly trying to divert any and. all attention off of her as the murder. suspect back to Jessica's police file. the DUI charges were not the only thing. on there remember Patrick her. ex-boyfriend that she always told Mna. was so toxic so abusive listen I don't. want to say that he's innocent because I. don't know what truly Happ happened in. their relationship but if you look at. just the police files Jessica seems to.

be the toxic one Jessica's ex-boyfriend. Patrick said that his relationship with. Jessica was quite possibly one of the. worst scariest experiences in his entire. life Wow and it got worse after they. broke up he was ready to move on he was. done with her stuff but each time he. would even try and break up with her. Jessica would threaten to self harm when. their relationship finally ended. September of 2015 Jessica kept sending. him texts and calling him she would. threaten to hurt herself if he ignored. her she threatened and even attempted to.

un alive herself multiple times and. tried to convince him that her death. would be on his hands there would be. blood on his hands it would be his fault. he filed a police report each time she. did that when Indonesia got Jessica's. file there were more than a dozen. reports like. that she would text him things like I. will un alive myself with carbon. monoxide it would freak him out to the. point of calling the police to do a. wellness check but also sometimes. talking to her to try and help.

interacting with her in some sort of way. another time she basically texted him. that she was over life and the police. were sent to do a wellness check and she. was found unconscious near sleeping. pills anti-depressants and a. knife and then after they broke up. Patrick's car was suspiciously and. mysteriously vandalized he requested a. restraining order against Jessica and it. was granted now just to clarify. she was struggling with her mental. health but that's a separate thing from. her criminal actions I just want to put.

a disclaimer there to make it clear that. while Jessica's criminal actions may. have been influenced by her mental. health mental health struggles do not. lead to criminal actions there are so. many people who struggle with their. mental health that do not hurt. people no there were no attempts or. reports that Jessica made against. Patrick at least in the police. files now Indonesian prosecutors were. also able to reach out to Jessica's. former boss who had filed a police. report against Jessica for Disturbing. Behavior in the workplace her name is.

Christy Carter and she said that she. fired Jessica days after merna's wedding. in November of 2015 so like 2 months. prior to the murder Christy said that. Jessica admitted to knowing how to kill. people the police clarified wait what do. you mean well she said that she knew how. to hurt. someone what did she say exactly well on. one occasion she attempted to alive. herself she was hospitalized and as a. supportive boss christe went to visit.

her show her moral support but Jessica. was complaining to her I want to go home. they're treating me like I killed. someone if I wanted to kill someone I. know exactly how to do it I know the. exact right. dose Christy was so taken a back she. didn't know what to say but she just. knew that this is not someone that she. feels safe to be around her her. employees the business so she let her go. and she made the right choice clearly. because immediately afterwards Jessica. texted are saying things like you have. to die and so does your. mom Christy said she's manipulative.

scheming emotionally unstable she sent. me death threats I have no doubt that. she's capable of hurting or killing. another. person wow another thing that would come. out during the trial is that um police. asked Jessica to turn in her clothes. from that day and she basically was like. I can't what do you mean you can't just. no I can't do you realize that we're not. asking this is like a police order. they're burnt I burned the. clothes why would you burn the clothes.

well they were worn out and I don't wear. clothes that are worn out so I burnt. them. what okay on top of that cyanide is. proven to be a skin irritant so if you. touch cyanide you could have very very. itchy hands now once they gather up all. this evidence the prosecutors come up. with their motive they believe Jessica. killed Mna out of jealousy if the motive. for this murder is jealousy that means. Jessica constantly compared her life to. Mna every bad thing that happened to her.

was a good thing that happened to Mna. Jessica broke up with her boyfriend Mna. married the love of her life Jessica. lost her job Mna became the branch. manager for her family's business. Jessica was sent to the hospital for. another un alive attempt mno posted her. engagement and wedding photos where she. was wearing her signature dimpled smile. and just looked so happy surrounded by. people that loved her and Jessica wasn't. invited now I will say it's it's a. motive for sure countless murders have. been committed due to jealousy right but.

it is one that's hard to argue in court. because jealousy is such a common. emotion that everyone feels and most. people will think to themselves well can. you really kill someone cuz you're. jealous I would never kill someone cuz. I'm jealous right but not only. that this is weird the public felt like. it would be one thing if Jessica was. from a middle or lower class family and. she was best friends with this upper. class girl Mna maybe it'd be too much of. a contrast Maybe be that feeling of. Injustice but the thing is Jessica is. always is also from the upper.

class her dad owns a pretty big bicycle. spare parts factory in. Jakarta maybe her family's not as rich. as Mna but they're really well off so. most people in Indonesia reading about. this case they would never even spend. their money at Olivier Cafe it was a $3. sign establishment to put it in. perspective the majority of Indonesians. have to live on less than $4 a day the. average drink at the Cafe is about $4. for an American perspective the average. American lives off $160 a day it's.

that's including like bills and Rent All. calculated and split into one day right. imagine going to an establishment where. you were spending $160 per person on. like a. drink wow yeah so it is shocking for. civilians to be like um I don't really. believe that a girl from this type of. class can also feel jealous of someone. from the same class basically that. doesn't make. sense right that just I don't know and. if she can then we should have no.

sympathy for this type of. girl Jessica's problems. specifically just were not real problems. when you look at it compared to everyone. else in the. country so the trial begins Jessica's. psychological condition was evaluated. and it was stated that she was a very. smart woman calm and collected but she. was a narcissist they were able to. categorize her and she actually fell. under the Amorous narcissist these are.

considered the least violent of the. narcissist the least aggressive of the. narcissist groups um they're they have. attention-seeking behaviors but not in. the way that you would think of most. narcissists they don't have this Grand. sense of self that you can feel. immediately they're actually incredibly. insecure they have a deep desire to gain. affection for affection sake so most. people want affection from their partner. or their family to satisfy this human.

connection need that we have right with. these narcissists they just want. affection for affection sake they tend. to live under this rule of if I scratch. your back you better scratch mine so. they will typically shower you with. attention oh God they do not mean it. typically but they will do this because. they expect you to return the. attention I mean it doesn't sound that. bad compared to some of the other. narcissists that we've talked about. right but the problem lies in the fact.

that they will keep wanting more and. more there's not really a satisfaction. point and it will never stop and I'm not. exactly sure what happens if you cut. someone off like that I'm sure person to. person it varies but it's very. enlightening in terms of this case right. so Jessica's trial resumes there would. be three judges that would decide. Jessica's fate if she would face the. death penalty and I know what you're. thinking didn't Indonesia agree not to. kill her right um that's another part of. this case like this case just kept going. more and more viral because it just kept. unfolding there was so much drama.

Australia was like hello Indonesia you. gave me agreements in writing that you. would not pursue the death penalty for. Jessica Indonesia was like I didn't do. that I never did that and for some. reason Australia never wanted to show. proof and they didn't want to force. Indonesia to comply so it was like a he. said she said between the two countries. and Indonesia was like well technically. that's our Citizen and it's a crime that. took place in our country so we can do. whatever we want so they're debating if.

they want to kill her yeah wow so if. Jessica is convicted she could face the. firing squad which is how they carry out. the death penalty in Indonesia if you're. on death row you get woken up in the. middle of the night taken to a remote. grassy location and you can choose. either to sit or to stand 12 guards face. you with rifles pointed only three of. the rifles have life bullets it it's to. make the guards not know who the one. that delivered the fatal. wound.

so they all shoot and if the prisoner. survives it's up to the commander to. shoot until a doctor confirms no signs. of. Life yeah the stakes could not be higher. but uh if you look at some pictures of. Jessica during the whole thing I mean. some parts she does look serious right. if you watch the videos as well but most. of the time she looks kind of. chill like she's in there for a speeding. ticket no matter of fact she looks like. she's supporting someone who's in front. of the court for a speeding ticket she.

doesn't even look like she's on trial. how's the trial going it's been going. okay but I can't really say anything. right now I understand do you have any. ideas about who Mo no I have no clue. it's bizarre it's so strange I mean she. pled not guilty her lawyers that are. funded by her parents are literally. grasping at straws doing everything I. mean they even lied and they were like. she has no Australian criminal pasted. and everyone's like we literally have. the files literally. when asked about then what happened how. did she die she's like I don't know she. took a sip of her coffee and it happened.

so. fast it was just nonstop they kept. trying to pin the blame on other people. at one point they tried to pin the blame. on. AR they came up with this Theory where. her defense attorney said that one of. the cafe waiters was paid 10,000 USD by. a reef to kill. Mna and Spike the. coffee yeah the waiter was brought into. court and was like I've never never seen. that guy in my life I've never like I. don't know what you guys are talking.

about in the end it lasted 135 days the. verdict was 377 pages long it took the. judges 4 hours to read in full but at. the end of it they they read it for 4. hours. stay in the end they said Jessica wongu. has been legally and convincingly proven. guilty of committing premeditated murder. they spared her the death penalty and. instead she got 20 years in prison. which is so light that's it. yeah everyone was upset it's not even an.

eye for an eye it's okay you know what. we can debate the death penalty and I. think that everyone is valid to their. own opinion about it and I just as. someone I will never give an opinion on. it because she's young too right yeah. that's what I'm saying so she's like. what 20s. 20s in like 47 maybe even ear maybe even. earlier. yeah what yeah that's why people were so. upset like like I was saying you know I. will never debate death penalties. because I think when you have families.

of victims of these types of crimes I. will never be the one to lick them in. the face and be like well no we. shouldn't kill people right the thing is. it's not even an eye for an eye it's not. even life in prison that's the crazy. thing like I don't know how it went from. death penalty or 20 years in prison like. why was there no life in prison but I do. think a lot of um countries. don't strongly enforce life in prison. like the states does. yeah yeah cuz like even a lot of cases. we talked about countries where it's.

life in prison but on average they get. out in like 20. years so she's going to get out in 20. years and I just cannot imagine what it. feels like for maro's family especially. because she gave a statement Jessica. said I did not kill MAA and I never. planned to do so she said losing her. means the world for me and my family so. I will say there is a group of people. that do think that Jessica is innocent. so I don't know you know they think that. there is no evidence of her actually. putting the cyanide in um there's.

arguments that putting cyanide into. coffee will actually make it appear a. darker color and not a turmeric yellow. color there's arguments that her motive. doesn't make. sense but I don't know especially from. what we know about Justice systems why. would they pin it on another upper class. woman typically that doesn't really. happen they have a cold case and they. pin it on Lower Class Lo civilians so. that do you know what I mean it just I. don't know um maa's Family keep her in.

their memories but they are trying to. move on from The Trial they said the. trial was pretty traumatic they still. post about MAA and they keep her. memories alive maa's father recently got. married and it made headlines but. thankfully the public is giving him him. his space Arif is having a really hard. time it might be because of the language. barrier but he still talks about m and. present tense he said I think she is the. most wonderful person I've met she has.

an amazing outlook on life he just tries. to find comfort in the fact that MAA got. to experience how it feels to be in love. and he feels honored that he was the man. that she fell in love. with it brings him a little bit of. peace and that is it for today's. story what are your thoughts on this I. mean I think that this case was going. around for so long and I think in the. beginning when I first got into True. Crime I covered it and I talked about it. and I was so like confused about this.

case but now I'm like wow there's so. many layers to this that I wasn't able. to dig into prior what are your thoughts. please stay safe and I will see you guys. on Sunday for the mini bye.