Korean Teacher Laughs After Stabbing 8 Yr-Old Student To Death Because “I Want To Die With Someone”

[Music]. bada bing bada boom it's not the same as. it is in America I mean for one when you. step into this building it's four. sometimes six stories tall and you turn. to your right the first thing that you. see is a line of Cubbies just spanning. the entire wall you have to pick an. empty cubby slip off your shoes put them. in the cubby and then you have to switch. to indoor shoes when you walk in you. can't walk in with socks or Barefoot you. need to slip on dedicated indoor shoes.

that you have to bring then it's time. for the daily stair walk you head to the. staircase and then you walk all your way. up to the designated room newer. buildings have elevators for. accessibility but this one does not so. once you get to the designated floor you. just see one single hallway with rows on. both sides of the hallway are these. massive sliding doors that lead into. these big rooms with rows and rows and. rows and rows of desks lined up every.

single person that you pass is wearing a. kneelength plaid skirt or trousers in a. Blazer you find your designated spot you. start cleaning there's no janitors. everybody is responsible for your own. designated area and once you're done you. look out the giant window and the. building is almost in this U shape. that's centered around this Courtyard it. sounds like a large sometimes terrifying. building but it's not there's not that. many entrances or exits the Halls are. usually patrolled by the staff.

welcome to a South Korean Elementary. School where it is rather difficult to. go. missing February 10th of 2025 so not too. long ago 8-year-old HED is one of the. last kids to be picked up from the. school when the adult comes to sign her. out of her after care class HED is. instructed to walk down a flight of. stairs to the front entrance she's done. this Monday through Friday this is not a. new schedule for Hunter the front desk. the academy teach who's picking her up.

Waits a minute then Waits 2 minutes 5. minutes now it's getting weird but maybe. she stopped by the restrooms first. before coming downstairs or maybe she. forgot her book in another classroom the. Academy teacher Waits a full 10 minutes. before all hell breaks loose because an. 8-year-old cannot just go missing in the. span of 10 minutes inside the school how. is that even possible there's barely any. entrances or exits that are not. patrolled even if she had run out she. left her outdoor shoes so what she's. just running away in her slippers.

additionally even if she was able to. make it out of the school someone's. going to see her in the courtyard or the. parking lot that she has to get through. but nobody's seen her teachers and. faculty are all alerted that the. 88-year-old hunter is missing they track. down the teacher that Hunter was last. with she's so confused what do you I was. just with her I mean you guys called her. out of the class after care so I sent. her downstairs I mean the stairs are. just around the corner she could have. gone down the stairs and then she would. have been practically face to face with. the front desk so what do you you mean.

so the front desk will call the. classroom say hey release not release. like yeah release this one kid they're. here for pickup right then it's up to. the kid to walk from the second floor. down the stairs to the first floor and. then get picked up from the main front. entrance right but 10 minutes later. she's still not there no and now they're. checking all the classrooms under the. desk in the teacher's break room. cafeteria all the restrooms Han is. missing she's gone but it doesn't make. sense how does she leave the building. without somebody seeing her by 5:30 p.m.

the entire area is in lockdown there are. police cars ambulances surrounding the. entire Elementary School neighbors are. standing outside in their big puffer. jackets it's snowing their eyes are red. from crying their hands are red from the. cold wind they're all huddled together. if one of the neighbors stands there and. does a full 360 turn they're going to. see massive apartment buildings. surrounding the entire school that's.

thousands upon thousands of apartment. units that Hana could be trapped in her. phone location shows her in this area so. either she was in the school she's lured. into an apartment she's in a car. somewhere we don't know there's so many. possibilities authorities and Hun's. family are running around trying to find. her and it's not until 6:00 p.m. that. night that two people are rushed into. the emergency room when was the pickup. again initially 4:40 p.m. so it's been. an hour and 20es yes 8-year-old hun and.

a 48-year-old woman a school teacher are. rushed into the ER both suffering from. stab wounds the doctors they're not. given a rundown of exactly what happened. they're just here to do their jobs which. is to save these people 8-year-old hun. does not make it she does not survive. her injuries but the 48-year-old school. teacher she's alive I mean she's going. to be okay it's a very Grim feeling some. nurses are likely thinking of all the. scenarios in their head okay a knife.

wielding madman snuck into the school. targeting kids maybe they killed. 8-year-old hanel and the teacher in an. attempt to try and protect her with. stabbed was the attacker after the child. or after the teacher or after all the. children regardless it's going to be. very difficult to tell the teacher that. the student did not. survive when the teacher wakes up all. those concerns are gone because the. 48-year-old woman the school teacher she. sits up in the hospital bed and she. starts laughing.

because she did it this is what it seems. like she wanted she wanted to kill the. 8-year-old girl and now she seems very. content with what she's done this is the. current ongoing case of 88-year-old. Hunter in South Korea. [Music].

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viral in South Korea it feels like every. single person and their mother is. downloading this app it's not Tik Tok. the app is actually quite controversial. people are having full-blown debates. about the ethical implications of such. an app are you really promoting stalking. I mean since when did stalking and. invasion of privacy become a mainstream. thing that we just all accept now the. app in question has a few features. that's rubbing a lot of people the wrong. way the app not only tracks your live. location but it also tracks every single.

separate place that your phone has been. in the past 24 hours so after the fact. someone can go in and see at 2:30 p.m. you were at the doctor's office if you. were out running 50 different errands. that day the app is going to track all. of that do I see that or somebody else. sees that somebody else now let's say. because you're out running errands all. day long your phone is on silent and you. don't hear your best friend or someone. you love blowing up your phone they can.

just click on an alarm sound and it'll. ring an alarm bypassing the silencing. features on your phone to make sure you. and everybody else around you knows hey. I was trying to reach you call me back. it also monitors all the different apps. that are being used on your phone how. long someone spends on each app and the. most intriguing thing though is the. soundar around feature which sounds. innocent enough but a lot of neens. understandably find it one of the. creepiest things an app can do think of.

it as live listening let's say I have. phone a you have phone B I'm the account. holder that means at any given point in. my day I can decide on my phone on phone. a to click this little ear button on the. app and I can hear whatever your phone. picks up so no matter if you're 1,000 ft. from me 1,000 miles from me if your. phone is at a cafe I can hear as much as. the phone's internal microphone can pick. up obviously if the phone is in your. jean pocket it's going to be muffled a.

little bit but if it's on the table I. could probably hear your conversation. with whoever you're having and then. conversations around the cafe how is. that legal like forget about the. personal side imagine you're in a. private meeting yes somebody else can. just secretly listening like that yes. because parents have all the rights this. is a parenting app phone a is used by a. parent and they can live listen on their. children's phon. whether they be at school or at a cafe.

or an after school. program what I can see why a lot of. people call it a stalker app but parents. in South Korea they start Mass. downloading this app February of. 2025 H's dad already had it installed. onto Hun's phone for a few months by. this point she didn't know it existed. she didn't know it was on her phone but. she's eight the argument that some. people have. is I think these types of parenting are. a lot more heavily debated once that kid.

turns into a. teenager because when you hit your teens. it's a lot more of a need for privacy. although I do think that even an. 8-year-old deserves a heavy amount of. privacy I I wouldn't say heavy amount. but a good amount of privacy and not. feeling like somebody is listening to. them all the time wait that is kind of. mindblowing right now how is that normal. okay I've seen lots of debates I think. as someone who does not have kids I'm. not entirely certain I did talk to my. sister who has two kids but they're very.

young and she is she doesn't believe in. apps like this she thinks if you've. already don't have that level of trust. however I do see some people in Korea. argue differently they say in Korea it's. a little bit different because the kids. are a lot more mobile so in America it's. like you drive your kid to school or the. bus picks them up then you pick them up. and then you bring them somewhere. everything is driven in Korea you see. 8-year-olds taking the Subway by. themselves mhm so they're saying it. might be more necessary for an. 8-year-old I don't know the ethic and.

moral concerns of this it's hard for me. to debate as someone who does not have. children I personally feel like it's an. invasion of privacy but again I'm not a. parent so I wouldn't know now the. argument here being is that Han is eight. it's likely that she would not have. cared too much either way if it was on. her phone or not her parents always knew. where she was which was always at school. or after school program or hugan or the. after school academy and then home on. repeat 5 days a week like that's it. except Monday February 10th 2025 after.

school is technically at around 2: p.m. so the class ends at 2: p.m. H is. scheduled to stay in the after school. program until 4:40 p.m. so almost 3. hours to get ahead on school work get. her homework done get prepared for. Academy lessons The Academy teacher then. goes around and picks up all the kids. from the neighboring schools and then. brings them to Academy at 4:30 at like 5. okay so there's more classes at 5:00 yes. and this is not just a hun schedule this. is like the typical day of an 8-year-old.

in South Korea you're talking heavily. competitive job market in South Korea. like you start preparing when you're. five so she's waiting for her hgan. teacher to come pick her up and she's in. the after school program at the school I. will say that the 3 hours that she's. waiting after class it's less of a. school and more so a transition class. it's not a free-for-all but it's not. active teaching you're not like actively. learning you're probably doing your. homework that is where she is until 4:40.

p.m. she is almost always the last one. to be picked up just based on the. Academy schedule she is instructed that. day she's in that program that day. Monday February 10th she's instructed to. make her way downstairs because the. Hagan teacher has come to pick her up. but that day she just vanishes she's. gone the after school program teacher. sees her walk out of the classroom and. then poof she's missing 10 minutes later. everybody's asking her where did Han go. and she's like what are you talking. about she left the classroom. H's parents are alerted they're freaking.

out what do you mean she's missing what. do you mean H's grandmother who lives. closer to the school she rushes over. there and when Hun's dad Kim gets to the. school he knows this is not normal by. this point there's a few officers trying. to help out and trying to help Han he's. firm this is not normal this is not. something my daughter does she's not. overworked she's not overstressed like. this is not normal the biggest fear is. that she was lured off the school. grounds into one of those thousands of. apartment units just surrounding the. entire building but even that doesn't.

make sense it doesn't make sense someone. would have seen something Kim pulls up. the parenting app that he downloaded on. H's phone H's phone location shows that. she is in this vicinity of the school. but they can't narrow it down even more. basically the app said she's either in. the school or one of the 10 apartment. buildings surrounding the school Kim. tries calling Hunter she's not picking. up he goes into the app he clicks on the. little ear button the sound around. feature and if Han has her phone with. her he's going to be able to hear. whatever the phone picks up he's.

standing outside in the freezing cold. he's trying to listen as close as he can. he hears something he's trying to get. away from all the people screaming H. there's name so he can clearly hear the. phone and the first thing he notices the. first thing he tells everyone is when I. first heard it I realized the sounds are. not coming from the outside inside she's. inside somewhere this phone is inside in. a building it doesn't sound like she's. outside there's no car noise no wind no. noise pollution whatsoever so she's. inside but we cannnot hear Hunter's.

voice at all she's not talking he hears. on the other end heavy. breathing labored. breathing there's just heavy breathing. on the other end and it's not coming. from Hunter and I don't know if I've. ever really given it thought until this. point but based on how little Clues. there are right now of where H is Kim. realizes someone is with hun someone is. heavy breathing he is certain that this. is not Hunter because Hunter is 8 years.

old sure you can say breathing sounds. the same it's just breathing noises but. imagine an 8-year-old and a 40-year-old. run a marathon both of them are going to. be heavy breathing at the end trying to. catch their breath but it's going to. sound different it's because the fact as. adults age the airway muscles the. cartilage becomes less elastic you're. going to try to catch your breath as an. older adult and the air flow is going to. sound more turbulent there's actually. medical reasons like in your Anatomy why. your heavy breathing sounds different. depend dep on your age and depending on.

your medical conditions you're not going. to be able to as quickly catch your. breath as let's say an 8-year-old maybe. there's even guttural throat noises that. just cannot come from the vocal cords of. an. 8-year-old Kim can hear it but. regardless he is certain whoever is. heavy breathing on the other line is not. Hunter it sounds like someone. middle-aged just ran 400t is winded why. would someone be winded near Hunter. where is Hunter why does this person. have her phone. also there's these sounds as if someone.

is opening and closing. drawers like you have a desk and you're. just opening and closing drawers rapidly. in quick succession it like multiple. drawers are being opened and then closed. open it's like someone is frantically. looking for something do we know how. long has it been at this point when he. started to listen about 10 15 20ish. minutes so very early on like she just. went missing yeah Hunter's dad is Frozen. in the middle of what looks like hell.

has broken loose there's police cars. there's officers there's neighbors and. teachers all screaming Hunter's name and. he's just hearing heavy breathing he. brings his phone down and he presses the. alarm button if Hunter's phone is. anywhere nearby they're all going to be. able to hear this loud alarm bell ring. but instead through the active soundar. around feature he can hear someone quote. I could hear the sound of someone. forcibly terminating alarms that I kept. sending through her phone.

likeone someone is like opening the. zipper of Han's backpack and like. clicking like he can hear like someone. banging on her phone so for an hour. Han's dad is listening to this whilst. also actively searching for his daughter. but it's not going to be him that finds. his daughter Han's grandmother will be. the one to find her grandma Kim has been. searching this entire School building. for like the 10th time she's going up. and down every single floor checking. every single classroom along with the. other faculty members a lot of police. officers don't even think that Hunter is.

in the school building they don't even. think that she's missing some of them. are like maybe she's stressed out maybe. she doesn't like hwan she doesn't want. to go to the after school art academy. which it just doesn't make sense but it. also doesn't make sense that she's in. this school there's not that many places. that she could be hiding there's barely. any hiding spots Grandma Kim doesn't. even know what to do she's gone through. every single floor but it's not like she. can just burst into a random stranger's. apartment in all the neighboring. apartment buildings being like do you. know where my my 8-year-old. granddaughter is so she can just spend.

her energy going through the second. floor again for the 10th time this is. where her granddaughter went missing. this is where she was last seen Grandma. Kim searches the entire floor again. she's about to take a left onto the. stairs that lead her back to the first. floor when a small door catches her eye. I mean the door has been there all along. it's the audio video room every school. has one it's usually like a soundproofed. windowless room sometimes there's. windows but their Shades blackout curs.

it's where the kids are taken if they. need to watch a presentation on a. projector or if they need to watch an. educational movie instead of those. rolling screens or like the projector. screens in every single classroom you go. to the audio video room it's almost. always locked because you know the last. thing you want is a troublemaker getting. in there connecting to the speakers. blasting some curse words or music but. there is something about this room. Grandma Kim reaches for the door knob. turns it and it pushes open it's. unlocked she swings open the door and.

it's dark the shades are drawn but the. light coming in from the door she just. opened from the hallway she can see that. there's nobody in the room there's. nothing a Miss there's no desk that's. overturned there's nothing maybe it's. intuition maybe it's being thorough she. sees another small door inside the audio. room which is probably a storage closet. for all the gear she walks up towards it. opens the door there's no light switch. she can quickly find so now there's. barely any light coming into the closet. the hallway door is open a crack so.

there's some light but barely Grandma. Kim uses the light on her phone and she. just sees legs like large legs on the. floor there is a woman a full-grown. woman just laying on the floor she moves. her phone up and the woman's face is. covered in blood grandma Kim is. terrified she's about to drop her phone. every hair on her neck is standing up. and is telling her get out get out. danger like you need to leave but she. has to ask she's trying to remain calm. have you seen my granddaughter her name. is.

Han. no oh she's conscious yes Grandma Kim. runs out of the storage closet out of. the audio room and into the hallway. she's calling Han's dad she's calling. the police she's standing guard because. she knows something's going on in that. closet but H's dad already knows when he. picks up the phone because he heard his. mom's voice after an hour of listening. to heavy breathing on the other end of. the parenting app he suddenly hears his. mom's voice have you seen my. granddaughter her name is Hunter and a.

woman responds. no Grandma Kim stands guard at the audio. video room door in the hallway and she's. like waiting for the police to arrive. they get there in seconds minutes it's. like barely any time has passed maybe. there's an attacker going around the. school she's terrified whoever did that. to the lady might have done that to. Hunter where the hell are they are they. attacking more people actively but also. there was something about that woman. Grandma Kim sense that she didn't seem. scared she didn't ask for help she.

wasn't like no help me save me there's a. killer she didn't say any of that she. just said no I haven't seen your. granddaughter why do you ask such a. random. thing Grandma cim would later say it. didn't look like it was her own blood. either it didn't look like she was. bleeding it looked like she was covered. in. blood within minutes police and Han's. father are surrounding the second floor. audio video room storage closet and the. storage unit door that Grandma Kim had. just opened and saw the woman on the. floor now locked from the.

inside who the hell is that woman that. she just saw usually every single school. has that one haunted ghost story there. are ghost stories of long ago a student. that was pushed off the roof sometimes. most of the times it's not true and they. now haunt the locker rooms or how the. school was built on a cemetery and now. there's always screams coming from the. gym showers because that's where some of. the graves were buried over and then. nobody goes after dark there's always a. ghost haunting the grounds this. Elementary School in Teo South Korea.

their ghost story is this one. teacher when she walks down the Halls. everybody gets quiet you can hear her. before you see. her it just Echoes down the hallway and. all the kids these Elementary schoolers. they step to the side because it's. creepy they press their bodies up. against the walls to avoid her she just. walks down the center of the hallway. with a box box cutter in her hand she.

pushes the blade all the way out and. then pushes it back in the kid said it. was really weird like I mean it it's not. threatening she's not holding the box. cutter up to people or wielding it. around which she just keeps fidgeting. with it like pulling the blade out. pulling it in making the noise non-stop. is this a story or this is actual. teacher this is the actual teacher that. these kids in this specific school have. said about this teacher oh she just goes. not a ghost story no it's like she's the.

ghost haunting the hallways she has this. empty look on her face these are what. the kids are saying she has these dark. circles that just come down all the way. into our cheek in schools in South Korea. it's very different from America where. if you see other teachers in the hallway. you might be like hi Mrs Smith but you. don't really do anything more and. sometimes if you don't recognize a. teacher you don't say anything but in. South Korea you have to ins like you. have to bow to every single teacher and. so a lot of students will bow to her and. she'll just look at you with a blank. expression as if she's looking through.

you like she's a ghost W and then she's. using this box cutter pulling the blade. out pulling the blade in and then. sometimes she's just walking around with. you know those painters tape the blue. rolls of tape uhhuh nobody knows what. she's doing with that blue tape she just. walks around with a roll of blue tape in. her hands other students would complain. to their parents at home I mean she. brings in this long stick to the. classroom it's like a long ruler stick. that teachers use to point at the words. on the board but she likes to hit her.

Podium with it and it it's pretty it's. pretty hard the parents are trying to. reason with their own kids yeah well. maybe you kids are crazy and she's. trying to get your attention to get to. get you focused no she swings it so. loudly that we can hear the air whipping. like it's not. normal they also tell their parents I. heard she even broke a computer in the. teacher's office something about her is. not normal and the parents all think. well that's just that's crazy that's. just a rumor the weirdest part is she. used to be one of the nicest teachers in.

the entire school that is why she's the. ghost story of the school it's like one. day she comes to work and it's someone. else inside of her body she goes from. being the nicest teacher the best. teacher the one that would give you. snacks would never make you feel dumb. for asking stupid questions one of the. most patient teachers to just being a. ghost that's haunting the hallways of. the school one student says I don't know. she was very well spoken and super kind. I don't know what happened to her within. minutes the police and H's father arrive.

in front of the locked storage closet. door in the audio video room and the. police start kicking in the door 20. times to finally get it open and when. they rush in they turn on the light and. they see the woman that Grandma Kim was. telling them about middle-aged 40s. something yearold woman laying limp on. the floor and next to her is a tiny. little body covered in blood hun there. she was placed deeper in the closet so. Grandma Kim could not see her but both H.

and the teacher are laying on their. backs towards each other heads facing. the same direction covered in blood Han. had been stabbed dozens of times in the. left part of her neck arm and chest area. as well as her back there were clear. defensive stab wounds on her hands it. seems that she was trying to block the. knife with her hands and the teacher has. a self-inflicted wound on her neck both. of them are rushed instantly to the. hospital where hun is pronounced dead at. 6:35 p.m. this is after 1 and 1/2 hours.

since she had gone missing 8-year-old. Hunter was stabbed to death by a teacher. from her. school inside the ICU unit the teacher. is laying there on an oxygen respirator. not allowed to have anything early not. even allowed to drink water and the. second that they take the tubes out of. her when she's stable enough the teacher. starts laughing that's what the nurses. and the doctors have reported every. single doctor and nurse in that room go. still because what the hell is she.

laughing about so they all knew what. happened at this point yeah the police. are guarding the hospital room and when. they hear her laughter they rush in to. question her none of this makes sense I. mean they clearly know what happened but. nothing else makes any sense whatsoever. the teacher is a second grade teacher at. the elementary school she's not even. Hunter's teacher she's not even the. after school program teacher that Hunter. was with it doesn't appear like this. teacher even had any sort of. interactions with h why did she kill her. no connection whatsoever no it's not.

like hun there was not that it would be. called for or not saying it's an excuse. of oh she was the Troublemaker in the. class but no like truly and again that's. not an excuse that's not a reason behind. it but it's even more bizarre. considering the fact that there is truly. no connection there they don't even. really interact with each other at all. the teacher tells authorities when she's. calmed down from her supposed laughing. fit it doesn't matter which child it. didn't matter to me I just wanted to die. with someone so I told the child leaving.

the care classroom after school program. classroom I'll give you a book you need. to read this book and then I got them in. the audio video classroom that's why I. strangled her and stabbed her with a. knife it didn't matter which kid I took. with me I just didn't want to die. alone within hours this case is. everywhere it is one of the biggest. cases in the news cycle in South Korea. but also International headlines news. outlets like BBC teacher fatally stabs. 8-year-old in South Korea CBS News. teacher stabs 8-year-old student to. death at Elementary School in South. Korea CNN teacher accused of killing.

first grader school stabbing shock South. Korea but nobody not even in Korea. nobody knows who the teacher is they. just know her to be a 48-year-old. teacher from the school that's it her. identity has not been released. understandably netizens start demanding. for it the public should have the right. to know who the perpetrator is people in. Korea are commenting personal. information must be disclosed on this. case the identity should not be kept. hidden which I will mention mention in. the very beginning before it was.

confirmed by authorities that the. teacher did wake up and did admit to the. stabbing again she hasn't been on trial. so we can't say that she. is guilty of first-degree murder but she. did state that she did do it but there. was brief confusion prior to that online. about whether or not there was like a. third party involved because people. could just not wrap their heads around. the idea that a teacher would stab an. 8-year-old student so they thought maybe. there's like a knife wielding madman. inside the school that hasn't been. caught so why Le the teacher's identity. we don't know for sure but once the.

teacher more or less confirmed that she. stabbed hun whether she'll take it back. or not we don't know but people start. demanding for the release of her. identity netizens argue and it's not. like the public aren't guessing they're. saying we're actually doing more harm. than good by not releasing her identity. people are pulling out random teachers. names being like maybe it's this one. this one looks 48 this one said she's 48. this one used to work in that school. just pointing the finger at any other. teacher but the law in Korea Works in a. way that a seven person deliberation. committee has to go through the case.

take into account all the aggravating. factors and finally they decide we're. going to release the identity but the. process is not over they have to now. alert the teacher they say you can. appeal our decision or you can say go. ahead and we're going to release the. identity to which she immediately. consents she consents yeah in a full. month after the murder the teacher's. identity is revealed to be a 48-year-old. teacher. tanong Mrs mang. there are two photos of her released her.

professional head shot for school and. her mug shots her head shot she appears. to be a very normal if even a bit. conventionally attractive teacher she. looks younger than her age in the. headshot at least with a bob cut to her. chin and side bangs she's got a pleasant. inung which means I guess facial. composition that Koreans tend to. gravitate towards it's like she doesn't. have really angry eyebrows or very. suspicious eyes I don't know these are. all very arbitrary stupid judgmental.

things that some people go by in Korean. standards but generally her inong seems. approachable she seems really nice which. shocked a lot of nens some netizens were. commenting if they saw her on the street. asking for help they would help her let. alone if she was the teacher at their. school they would go with her into the. audio video room a little back context. for Korean Intel right if I'm correct. it's big in Korean culture like when you. meet someone you take in like their.

first impression their Aura their energy. their facial Vibes and then you kind of. you know give a little Vibe towards this. person either it's good or bad yeah so. okay first impression I feel like in. American Standards and I'm not promoting. like the South Korean in tongue it's. just something that I always hear my. parents say or like Koreans talk about. frequently in American Standards when. you meet someone their first impression. is usually based off of the conversation. that you have or or what they talk about. or what they're interested in in Korean.

standards it's a mixture of that plus. their facial composition and then just. the energy and even the way that they're. dressed so the insong is not just good. or bad it can be like oh she gives me a. very soft girl impression or she gives. me a very cool girl impression like she. seems headstrong it's not like good or. bad it's just like everybody has a. different Aura like she seems. opinionated but in a fun way like it's. kind of that and Korean beli that. sometimes your facial composition could.

add to that and it's actually very big. in the culture yes like very big so it's. for them to give a what is it in in. tongue of someone and then they see that. this is the person who did this crime. now that's a conversation yes so I think. what a lot of people were expecting was. a head shot of a teacher who just looks. like an evil mean vile like you just see. her in the hallways and she looks like. she to work hating children I think.

that's the picture that everybody was. expecting it's just that her head shot. did not feel that way so I think that. just adds to the fact that netizens are. even more scared in Korea cuz they're. saying of course 8-year-old H went with. her first of all she's an authority. figure and she's in the school this is a. safe Zone typically um obviously in. America it's different right now but. also in South Korea things are changing. but it's typically supposed to be a safe. zone for students especially to to trust. their own teachers and then she looks so.

kind and friendly people are saying if I. saw her on the street I would have gone. with her but others who just look at her. mug shot say oh it's different if you. just look at her mug shot she looks. scary and then others comment well. people say she looks scary but she only. looks scary because she did something. scary if Ordinary People took a photo. using their back camera right after. waking up without washing their face. that's what her mug shot looks like to. which others point out how ironic. Society is so aside from her pictures. they were just saying like we got her. identity and all we want to do is Judge.

her. looks aside from her pictures we know a. few things about mang she has a son that. is taking the college entrance exam this. year it's likely that she is recently. divorced and that's about it that is all. we know about her I think that there is. this natural yearning to know more about. her that netizens feel like there's got. to be something in her digital footprint. or something that indicates that she's. this sick twisted nasty little seed that. has been left behind like we got to find. something but all people could find was.

her thesis when she's getting her. master's degree in it she writes about. switching to a level-based curriculum to. break away from the homogenized. curriculum to help students pursue. self-directed individual learning she. also writes there is a quote there is a. saying the quality of Education cannot. surpass the level of the teacher so she. fundamentally agrees with that saying. that the quality of the education cannot. surpass the level of the teacher so. teachers need to rise up and do more and. be at the Forefront of making sure the. kidss are receiving quality education.

and it falls on them which maybe she. felt that genuinely years ago but. clearly not now that's all people were. able to dig up on mang and that in a few. days before allegedly killing Hunter she. choked a colleague of. hers 4 days before the murder at around. 5:15 p.m. this is a random Thursday one. of the teachers at the school let's call. them Mrs a she's springing out of the. classroom one hand on her throat the. other hand grabbing the walls in front.

of her she's running she's stopping to. cough I mean it's not even a small cough. it's like she's choking on a grape she. runs to the teachers offices thankfully. none of the teachers have gone home. after class they're working on lessons. plans her face is entirely red and she's. like Mrs mang Mrs Mong and they're like. what happened what happened Mrs a. explains I was on the way out when I saw. her sitting in the dark of a random. classroom just like in the middle of the. classroom crouching down I noticed that. she hadn't really been herself recently. so I slid open the door I walked in and.

she she's sitting there motionless and. it was kind of creepy so I stepped. getting in a little bit closer Mrs mang. are you okay suddenly she reaches up. grabs Mrs A's left arm twists it behind. her and back so she's like pinning her. like a pro wrestling move suddenly Mrs. A's arm is behind her in a very painful. way she's getting dragged onto the. ground mang starts grabbing the back of. Mrs A's puffer jacket choking her on her. her own collar and she starts freaking.

out she's coughing trying to scream. she's being strangled and this is. unprompted out of nowhere Mrs a has one. arm to try and scratch mang's arms off. her neck Mrs a she's trying to think. quick she's not trying to piss off Miss. mang she tries to reason with her can. you tell me what's going on what's going. on can you talk to me are you okay in a. blank voice she claims mang just tells. her why why do only I have to be unhappy. what about all of you. like this is attempt.

murder and then suddenly a vibrating. noise Mrs a looks down M's phone is. vibrating on the table and she's trying. to Signal don't you need to pick that up. your phone could be your husband please. don't you need to answer it husband. we're divorced when I go home nobody's. there I'm all. alone the teacher immediately reports it. to the administration in the school this. is on Thursday they Del and they decide. to talk to Mrs mang on Monday about it.

and it is clear that Mrs mang is not. ready to come back to the school she was. actually supposed to be on a six-month. medical leave and came back after just. 20 days prior to the incident of trying. to strangle and kill her colleague Mrs M. was known to have been one of the nicest. teachers in the sense that normally she. had a lot more patience with the kids. she's been a teacher for the past 20. years she knows what to expect she knows. how to manage her emotions in fact. throughout her 10-year teaching she's. consistently won awards of commendation.

and never had any complaints about her. work from colleagues parents or students. according to medical records Mrs mang. this whole time had been struggling with. depression severely for the past five. years December of 2024 it was agreed. upon by the school and the. administration that Mrs mang would take. sick leave for 6 months she would focus. on treating her depression that's the. plan everybody agreed on especially. because mang's doctors wrote that it's. going to take about 6 months of heavy.

intensive treatment they wrote To Miss. mang's Boss the patient is currently. suffering from severe depression and. lethargy requiring at least 6 months of. stable care but 20 days later right. before winter break Miss mang just shows. back up just kind of startling everyone. especially because they had already. filled her spot and she said 6 months is. adequate time and now she's what back in. not even 15 business days how do you go. from needing 6 months to suddenly. feeling better in 20 days mang argued. that her depression symptoms improved.

enough in the past 20 days that she can. resume daily life again and here's a. letter from the doctor I find that. that's quite alarming so after she comes. back there is winter break in Korea so. winter break is around mid to end. December until late January in South. Korea this is happening February 6 she's. assaulting her colleagu so this is like. right after winter break so that week or. two after winter break students are. saying I don't know what happened to the. teacher she used to be the nicest. kindest sweet teacher and now she's.

walking around with a box cutter now. she's walking around with blue tape she. wasn't acting like this before her. medical leave and then before winter. break she just comes back and she does. not seem normal so there are signs that. the students were noticing yes but it's. not she's not threatening anyone she's. not snapping she's not screaming at. people she just seems mentally I. wouldn't even say it's unstable it's. hard to say cuz it's very easy for. people to look at kids and be like. you're overthinking it not that I think.

kids are overthinking it but sometimes. adults have that reaction but she did. choke someone out yes February 6th. Thursday she chokes out her colleague. nothing happens on Friday Saturday. Sunday Monday the 10th the. administrators tell mang and very nicely. considering she just tried to strangle. her colleague they very nicely tell her. that she should probably take the rest. of her sick leave instead of leaving the. school or going to the doctor mang goes. on to till hun that. afternoon if that happens in the school.

right a teacher literally try to attempt. murder another teacher yes I mean I feel. like there's got to be some pretty. serious consequences follows right away. right that's why a lot of people are. upset with this case there were so many. warning signs after school on Monday the. 10th Han is sent to the Aftercare. classroom on the second floor this is. again not a new schedule for her she. waits from 2:00 p.m. to about 4:40 p.m. to be picked up by her Academy teacher. where she's going to take the Hagan bus. that goes around picking up all the kids.

from the other different schools takes. them to the Hagan and then after that. she's going to be picked up by her. parents at the end of the night Hogan is. it's like a so after school program is. at the school they just kind of take. care of you Hagan is like another. teaching Academy so you go there to. actively learn it's like second School. most kids will attend Hagan these days. even at 8 years old in between that time. Han's Grandma thought it would be a nice. surprise to go pick up her little. granddaughter take her home get some. snacks in her and then just personally.

drop her off at the Academy for her. night studies but H said it's fine I. don't want to be a burden she's texting. her grandma besides all the teachers. here are super nice eventually Hanah. tells her grandma that it's just her and. the Aftercare classroom teacher all the. other kids have left but again it's fine. because she's about to leave soon and. just to clarify the after school program. teacher is not Mong it's a different. teacher it's not until 4:40 p.m. the. Academy teacher comes to pick up hun she.

can't just text h she has to check in. with the front desk then the after. school program teacher will release Huna. out of the classroom where she's going. to walk down a flight of stairs to the. front desk but instead of getting there. the audio video room door opens Mong. asks her if she wants a book that she. needs to read this book Hana gets lured. in and she is stabbed strangled and. stabbed to death. the knife that mang uses she had. actually gone to buy it that day she.

told her other colleagues that she was. going to stop by the restroom but. instead she walked out to the parking. lot got in her car drove about a mile to. a kitchen supply store where she's seen. on CCTV camera just leisurely walking. into the store purchasing a knife a 6. and 1/2 in Blade 11in knife she was even. seen asking the clerks at the kitchen. supply store if this is a good one if. the performance is good. then she stabs Han to death It is.

believed that by the time that Grandma. Kim came into the audio storage room Han. was dead but she had not stopped herself. so mang was covered in Han's blood and a. lot of people actually take that to. believe she did not want to self exit. which we'll get into in a second but. there is a lot of premeditation here a. few days prior to H's murder it was seen. on Forensic like forensic analysis of. her digital devices that she been. searching up things about murder weapons. tools to be used against other people.

tools to use for assaults things of that. nature she later does state to the. authorities I was just irritated just 3. days that the vice principal prevented. me from teaching after she got back from. winter break the teachers just didn't. want her to teach the vice principal. didn't want her to teach children either. they were asking her to do other. probably paperwork around the building. but I I'm assuming they didn't feel. necessarily that comfortable quite yet. with her having students when she's. supposed to be on a 6-month medical. leave but she comes back within like 20.

days and now that HRA is dead Mrs mang. is in the hospital and she claims this. was my depression that led me to this. one expert states such extreme. aggression is very difficult to manifest. in depression stating that it's likely. you know sure she could have depression. but that there's something more it's not. the main caused to her actions like. she's trying to play it off it as it is. with one official explaining the suspect. experienced conflict in the home and at. work she had a deep-seated resentment.

her anger was redirected outward as for. why specifically hun was chosen mang. said I didn't really have any. interaction with her I was just choosing. the easiest Target she was going to be. the last one in the school to come out. of the after care classroom and that's. on the second floor I could unlock the. audio video room that nobody really goes. into so she's saying it did not matter. to her which student it was one believes. that she tried to commit this whole.

thing with a colleague 4 days prior that. she was trying to kill her colleague and. then self- exit but it was impossible to. do because there was no way that she. could have done it to her colleague the. expert describes it as this is the type. of person that subconsciously or. consciously does not want to be harmed. by another person so regardless of if. she had intention to self exit or not. which a lot of people don't even know. for sure it just seems like she doesn't. want want to pick someone her own size. basically they're saying if this was.

happening in a high school it's likely. that she wouldn't have been able to go. after a. student the criminologist continues such. perpetrators do not choose strong. opponents they just are worried that. they themselves might be harmed if they. attack someone strong another expert. States the depression that she suffered. for the past 7 years is not directly. related to the crime depression is not. linked and does not manifest in the form. of murder it is worth mentioning that. there are speculations that young didn't. even plan on murder with attempted self. exit some neton speculate that she might.

have gone on to harm more people in the. school or other students or colleagues. but it might have been the parenting app. that prevented her because the parenting. app kept sending alerts which Hun's Dad. could hear mang on the other end. forcibly opening Hunter's front zipper. off her backpack to turn off the alerts. and then the heavy breathing continued. for about another hour furthermore the. when Grandma Kim opened the door to the. storage closet it didn't appear that. mang was injured and even after that she.

had the energy to lock the door it seems. like she tried to self- exit after she. was found by Grandma Kim adding to that. theory is the fact that her injuries. were not life-threatening but could be I. mean they could be used as evidence that. she is mentally unsound but they were. not actually life-threatening really so. it was like a I mean it's hard to say. because the intent could be there but. human self-preservation selfs survival. could kick in it it's hard to argue but. one other aspect of this theory is that.

according to Han's autopsy none of her. wounds showed any signs of hesitation so. a lot of the times with sometimes. stabbing victims you'll see shallower. shallower stab wounds and then it. progressively leads into deeper stab. wounds so you'll see like a varying. level of depth of the wounds what they. were all incredibly deep many experts. don't believe that fits the theory that. she was so depressed that she harmed H. and then wanted to self- exit they more. or less argue that if that were the case.

there would have been some sort of. hesitation marks another criminologist. interviewed on this case focuses on the. fact that when Grandma Kim opened the. door and asked mang where H was she just. straight up lied to her face there was. nothing to indicate that she was. panicked or nervous it's not only. terrifying that she was able to maintain. this calm demeanor but also it's just a. flat out lie of someone trying to cover. their tracks. not someone who had plans to self- exit. soon soon after this crime takes all.

over the mainstream Media news Koreans. not just from the teu area but Koreans. that have traveled hours they come to. drop off crysanthemum flowers and snacks. at the school gates for Hunter they had. these little yellow umbrellas stuck onto. the picket fence of the school so that. all of the Dolls left for Hunter would. not get wet a local florist even gave. out 100 crysanthemum flowers just hoping. to raise more awareness and hoping more. locals would go and pay their respects.

the flowers the dolls they're all left. up for like an entire block around the. school for 100 this was this is even to. this day a very big case in South Korea. I know in America we have lots of. incidents and it's still very big cases. but it almost feels like certain people. not saying you or I but certain people. have almost come to expect that a school. is not a safe place in America which is. so dangerous and so vile and so. depressing on its own but in Korea there. really was not as many instances of this.

level of violence you hear a lot of. stories of school bullies and there's. that kind of inter peer violence which. is still not okay but to have an. 8-year-old killed on school premises was. really shocking and even so to. International audiences the first day of. morning for the funeral Hun's family. received condolence wreaths from major. businesses local and national soccer. teams they all sent condolence wreaths.

for Hunter according to someone at the. funeral proceedings there were a lot of. members of parliament in the front. paying their respects to Hunter. including even the acting president of. South Korea attended to pay his. respects president yum was there no he. is the suspended president so there is. the acting president of South Korea who. attended to pay his respects now I will. say this is where a lot of people just. thought the case is now going to. progress in into the trial but for some. reason this case ends up just taking.

very bizarre turns and spiraling into. something more than what happened and. raising awareness so that this never. happens again I was really even debating. with the idea of not even including a. lot of this in this episode or really. condensing it down but the feeling that. I kept getting while going through the. online discourse and how the topic. changed from hun to gaming forums to. just about everything that has happened. in between I mean the overwhelming. feeling is that we are still living in a. world where a victim needs to be perfect. or at least near perfect in order to.

deserve sympathy it's a sick. prerequisite Society has and this case I. think is such a clear example of that in. this case it's not the netizens are. finding fault with 8-year-old huny that. that would be even for the internet a. new level of low but it's the fact that. some netizens which are internet users. are going after hunner's father H's dad. used to be a frequent user of a gaming. Forum which was known to be frequented. predominantly by men where maybe 50% of.

the posts are fun and about games and. the other 50% are jokes probably a lot. of women would not find funny neon's dug. up Old Post and comments left behind by. Hun's father who we will refer to as Kim. for example one person would post a. picture writing a cup weighs the same as. a mandarin b cup weighs Persimmons C. cups are apples D cups are grapefruit e. cups are giant giant Asian pairs clearly. talking about breast size and how much.

they weigh Han's father comments my. girlfriend is a great fruit then if I. knew that's how my boyfriend was talking. about me on these forums he would not be. my boyfriend anymore and while it's a. rather derogatory comment that's just. kind of uncomfortable it has nothing to. do with h nor her murder because in any. event an 8-year-old was killed for no. reason what does her father's post from. 2015 have anything to do with it a lot. of netizens came out and a lot of. koreanz came out started to defend Kim. about it saying that's a full 10 years.

ago and yeah it's sexist he should. probably reflect on that post but it's. not the most insane thing we've ever. read on top of that even if the post was. even more sexist should we really be. bringing it up now like do we need to. dig into everybody's past digital. history so every person victim's father. victim do we need to go down and find. every single thing that they wrote from. 2015 yeah that's so bizarre it just. became a huge discourse of how we handle.

like a lot of the digital Footprints of. people and I do think it's very. interesting that a lot of society and a. lot of cultures still have this. prerequisite that a victim's family has. to be absolutely perfect in order to. deserve sympathy because these aren't. even the same level like what does that. even mean now this is not a great bar to. set but regardless a more recent post. was made in 2019 on a thread asking. about contraceptions hiners father. comments use contraception well if. you're not careful you're going to end.

up with two kids like. me nens felt this comment was clearly. harder to overlook it's recent it has to. do with his two kids it sounds like he. doesn't want kids it sounds like he. doesn't love his kids that's what a lot. of Korean netizens were trying to hint. at then another post pops up with a new. allegation against Kim an anonymous post. with an accusation H's father borrowed. $2,500 from an acquaintance of mine to. donate to a female streamer and he never. paid it back he's on welfare he sent.

Hunter to the after school program with. the government benefits and all he he. doesn't even work he goes and he spends. all of his time in PC rooms watching. female streamers playing games he was. even recently sued for harassing a PC. room employee pay back the money you owe. to my acquaintance H's. father neens were really confused on how. to feel about this random accusation. because there's no proof provided but. also someone truly like you would have. to be so morally corrupt to even bring. this up and make these accusations at.

this point in time some netizens were. saying if you said this a year later but. it's so fresh after the murder and. you're writing these online it's just. weird like what are you trying to gain. from this is this going to make him pay. it back are you trying to capitalize off. of the attention that Heiner's case is. getting because then you're sick for. doing it for the wrong reasons right now. an 8-year-old has died does the. acquaintances borrowed money that he. consented to borrow to a friend. does that have anything to do with the. story right now so why do you think all.

these people are kind of like attacking. or coming up with these stories against. him I think not to psychoanalyze a whole. group of people's reactions online. because maybe we're reading too deep. into it maybe we're not but my Korean. researchers were talking to me and we. had these discussions about sometimes it. appears that when a case is pointing out. an issue that is too big for these. people to even grasp or understand or it.

feels like as a citizen of the country. this feels like too big of an issue for. me to even make an impact then we might. as well just find fault in the people. bringing up the issue is kind of the. feeling or I I would hope that Koreans. are not I mean this is a small group of. Koreans bringing this up by the way like. most Korean netizens are like hey you. people are insane for even talking about. stuff like this like why are you. bringing this up why are you going and. digging into his old Gaming forums but.

that small group of people I don't know. what their problem is I don't know so if. you're wondering how the social. discourse went from anger towards the. perpetrator to people digging up old. posts from the victim's dad and people. almost seemingly trying to find dirt on. him I was also really confused but this. case really is frustrating in the sense. that when you look for discourse in. Korea about this case you see it go from. all about hun and how to prevent this. from happening in another school to lots. of online messy allegations and opinions.

about the victim's father if you go on. American like English sources of this. case you're not going to find any of. that you go to Korean sources you're. going to find at least half the comments. are bringing up Han's father wow in some. videos it's like 90% of the comments are. talking about Han's father and I was. talking to my Korean researchers and. they said again most Koreans are on. Hunter and Hunter's father's side it's. just that like the small handful the. small group of people that hate her. father for whatever sick reason they're.

so loud they're so vocal so most of this. seems to stem from a series of. interviews that Hunter's father does. after Hunter's death Hunter's father. does a series of press interviews which. makes sense considering this is one of. the more talked about cases in the new. cycle at this point some neens decided. to find fault with some of the things. that he says or more so the way he says. those things in the interviews for full. transparency I do see how there are. moments where his tone or his words he.

chooses might come off strange if you're. not being sympathetic but I think a lot. of crean isens have lost the plot I. think they're trying to twist his words. and find some way to find fault in him. and I don't know what they get out of. doing that maybe it's easier to blame. her dad rather than thinking about how. the education system can be fixed for. both teachers and students because that. feels like too big of a problem also who. knows nobody know knows anyone's true. intentions but given what we have the. interviews of the dad I don't know how.

people are painting this insane picture. of him being one of the most evil people. in the world people are making it seem. like he's worse than the perpetrator see. that's crazy right yeah every little. thing he says has been picked apart and. yes again I can see how some of them. come off strange when you don't really. factor in the nuance and the the context. of the situation but keep in mind this. is a man that has never been on the news. he was just plopped into mainstream. media in the span of 48 hours and all. the major news networks are shoving.

cameras in his face demanding him to. make a statement at the same time that. the most horrific incident of his life. has just. happened he has had no time to process. his grief to consolidate his emotions. he's just trying to share with the world. his experience so that this never. happens to another kid he asks in the. first interview please just take 10. seconds to pray so that Hanah is happy. in heaven thank you so much he bows. almost 90° to the reporters but a lot of. nens some netizens okay I don't want to.

say a lot but it sounds like a lot cuz. all the comments some netizens are upset. and they're saying that he keeps asking. people for things he keeps demanding we. give 10 seconds of Silence he then also. asks journalists at the end of their. articles to write Hunter who became a. star we love you let's create Hunter's. law so he's trying to create a law and. we're going to get into that cuz that's. all also controversial but in another. part he States I sincerely ask.

government officials please create. Hunter's law so that there won't be a. second Hunter as I asked yesterday I. would appreciate if journalists would. include the phrase Han adults are sorry. we love you at the end of your videos. are. articles now I think that this is more. done in American news outlets you don't. really see this being done in Korean. news outlets citizens being like hey. journalist could you please include this.

at the end of your article and I think. the way that he's bringing it up is very. to the point which a small group of. Korean netizens felt very upset at his. quote unquote demands they're saying. he's demanding too much like why is he. going around demanding 10 seconds of. Silence I think the feeling that they. were trying to convey I don't know is. that we were going to give 10 seconds of. Silence but because you demanded it we. don't want to give it anymore which is. just such a strange sentiment to have. but they're very upset by it and they're.

also commenting things like the schools. and teachers should feel sorry but why. do all the adults in Korea need to. apologize we're not the ones who did. this other netizens get quite harsh with. their comments writing what is this the. dad almost seems excited and why are the. adults of Korea sorry we're not the ones. that forc you to send your kid to after. care class so now they're shaming him. for sending his kid to after care class. programs after school because most most. parents are double working parents like. they're dual income parents they don't.

have the time to just watch their kids. like most people in Korea send their. kids to after school. programs other comments don't generalize. the actions of one insane evil teacher. and her crimes to the entire adult. population of the nation we feel bad we. feel grief and heartache but why do I. have to. apologize wow so bizarre yeah it's like. not that personal but it's I mean again. I don't I was debating on whether to. even include this in the episode but. because it's such a prevalent. conversation in South Korea and it's.

happening in all the Korean articles. they're like fighting in the comments in. every single article about hun I think. it's a great time to try to understand. why stuff like this happens they also. point to another moment where he tells. the journalist to write Han there we. love you Han there we're sorry and in. their articles I guess the next day they. hadn't included that so he asks again in. a press conference why doesn't anyone. write it among from what I've seen there. was nothing.

written so a lot of people are upset. that he's reading the Articles and. calling out the journalist for not. including what he requested then there's. another moment where he says the biggest. issue in South Korea right now is the. case of Hunter I don't know why it had. to be my daughter and why this is. happening then he excuses himself to. calm down before he continues in the. interview so he notices he's like okay I. need to calm down could I just get a. moment.

I think his words are completely. understandable he is a parent who just. lost his child and this case is massive. in South Korea but some South Korean. netizens recently I mean they just. didn't like what he said H is the. biggest case is like the only big issue. in Korea right now because they're. saying recently their president was. impeached so there was a lot going on in. the political world that impacts all the. nation's citizens some netizens got. offended by his words which I just think. is have some nuance and your life would.

be easier someone comments I thought it. was a police official giving a briefing. the way that he's saying this is the. biggest issue and we should care about. it others are even speculating is this. really the biological father he seems. like he's not commemorating Hunter but. rather fulfilling his own selfish. desires like desire of what some people. okay I I'm trying to also see why C. things are happening to try and maybe. give a perspective clearly I don't know.

what it's like to be in that situation. but I do think that there are moments. where I have been in front of a camera. and I felt really uncomfortable to the. point where I don't know why my face is. not matching certain words I'm saying I. think it's like I'm nervous I'm like. shaking I'm I just don't know how to. feel like the adrenaline and I think at. certain points in his press. conference his voice is fast-paced he. doesn't seem sad. emotional and there's almost like an.

inflection in his tone that's alert and. Hyper and people are taking that as he's. so happy to be in front of. cameras yeah. wow others point out a different moment. when Hun's dad is just talking about. what it must have been like for his. little daughter in her final moments he. says the sound of me triggering the. alarm on the parenting app how much pain. must Han been in she was stabbed dozens. of times if someone had just listened. for that sound My Han there would have.

been in a lot of pain but she wouldn't. have become a star now he's saying if. someone had heard it maybe she would be. alive yes she would have been in pain. because she had she would still have to. heal from the stab wounds but she also. wouldn't become a star so the way he's. saying it is like it's like very. complicated like obviously he doesn't. want his daughter to have passed on but. then also the idea of her trying to heal. from those stab wounds would have been a. lot but people are just taking the part. where he says she wouldn't have become a.

star as like oh my God he wants Fame he. wants his daughter to be famous he also. continues now this adds context the. crime could have happened to anyone but. Han became a star first for her friends. for the elementary school students who. will live in Korea in the future that is. how I will think about it that's a huge. part that has been taken out of the. context by some of these Korean netizens. one sentiment that H's father has held. since the beginning of all of this is. that had it not been H there that day it. would have been another kid that teacher.

was not going to stop until she killed a. kid that is his belief that's a lot of. people's beliefs he finds comfort in the. fact that he could try to see it as his. daughter saved another child she became. a star and the reason he uses star is. not like she became famous H's name. means sky in. Korean so it's like so a lot of people. are saying she's now in the sky and then. she's a star in the sky so he's saying. it in that sense and not fame and it's.

very clear like everybody knows the word. sky in Korea like if these neens can. type out their hateful comments they. know what the word means they know what. her name means so clearly the context is. there but they decide to just bypass it. and they're like he's obsessed with. becoming. famous it sounds like they feel like his. reaction doesn't match with what they. think a victim's father should act like. or say in these type of situation and. now they are having a moment of like. casting their own whatever on this. father it's one of those situations.

where I feel it's very easy for people. to say things like people respond to. shock and grief in different ways but. then when they see it play out they. don't like it yeah I think I would be a. little bit more understanding of some. tiny bit of nzen if there were a lot of. suspicious elements of the case where it. feels like maybe the father had. involvement but it's like so cut and dry. like why are we even doing this right. now it doesn't even make sense mhm some.

netizens have painted this narrative. that he is someone that loves being. famous and loves being on TV writing he. seems so excited now that he's getting. attention or no matter how I look at it. he doesn't seem sad he just seems like. someone who's enjoying the situation and. wants to look good to reporters and. entertain them it is sufficiently. bizarre and quote the father was unique. from the beginning of the situation. rather than feeling sad about losing a. child he specific demanding certain. words be used at the end of Articles. demanding the nation give 10 seconds of.

Silence it's bizarre rather than taking. care of his wife and his other daughter. he's just doing all these disturbing. interviews now one thing to note is that. he says that the police were barely. telling him updates on this case he was. finding out about it online it I mean it. seems very natural then that he would. constantly be reading articles waiting. to see if the police are going to. release more information that's why I'm. saying it's not that strange that he. noticed that the reporters didn't. include that at the end of the article. Les he straight up says I haven't been. told anything about the investigation. process by the police I asked the.

detective supervisor and the news. articles like this are coming out I said. detective supervisor what are these news. articles please tell me the. investigation status and they won't. another thing to add to all of this is. some netizens said that he's been very. demanding he's demanding Idols. politicians police officers show up and. pay respects to H he's demanding Nations. pray for 10 seconds I think these are. all requests they're not demands but. most netizens they can see how angry he. is with the police the reason that he's. quote demanding them to show up at.

Hunter's funeral and maybe this can. Enlighten those nasty netizens that hate. the father for no reason he says quote. the police officers investigating H the. prosecutor who came to see Han not a. single one of them came to pay respects. on top of the fact that nobody's telling. him information about this case he's. saying it's just confusing you know many. Ordinary People I don't even know have. come from all across the country. citizens of Korea have come to pay. respects H there and I think side note. pay respect maybe to some people sounds.

demanding but that's like what you do at. a funeral you pay respects but he's. saying like you know they came to say hi. to Hunter they came to show their. respect and send her off like he's using. these types of terms three police. officers unrelated to the case they came. they hugged me and they cried with me. they said they were sorry that they. couldn't protect hun there there are. people like that but how can those in. charge of the case not come to pay their. respects someone should be stationed. here inform me in real time as I'm the. one who needs to know the news the. fastest but why do I have to learn all.

about the investigation through news. articles of course I don't know if the. articles are true or not all citizens. will know about it through the news. articles and I don't even know if it's. true so another thing to know there have. been lots of fake news spread by some. journalists saying that Heiner's father. had mentioned he wanted to meet with the. perpetrator one day how he wanted to. meet with the perpetrator's family one. day to which he all put those rumors to. rest but that's why he's even more. frustrated he has to learn about his own. daughter's investigation through media. outlets and some of them are reporting.

false news about him that he knows is. false so now everything that comes out. about H he's like I don't know if that's. even true and the police won't talk to. me not only that they won't even pay. their respects to the 8-year-old girl. who was killed like this is crazy he's. like expressing frustration but some. netizens have complained saying he's. asking to be treated like a VIP they're. saying most officers do not attend. victim's funerals it's just not in. protocol and some say his tone comes off. very entitled writing rather than being.

angry at the perpetrator he's angry at. all Koreans that did not come to pay. condolences that anger is stronger for. the father it is very bizarre or another. comment that reads the dad is unusual he. is counting condolences rather than. focusing on getting Justice others argue. that it's reasonable to be upset I mean. learning updates through the media the. fake news it makes sense and even if it. doesn't make sense he's a grieving. father one big part that Korean neens. have also been ripping two shreds into. Hunter's father is at the end of one.

press conference he tells the reporters. I should wrap this up I won't be taking. any more questions there's really. nothing else to film right now I've done. all the interviews I'll conclude for now. uh reporters please go upstairs we. prepared meals for you go upstairs and. eat his tone sounds from what neens say. it sounds very light now out side. context in in another interview inside. the funeral home he says reporters the. serving staff are coming out a bit late.

but you really don't need to give. monetary gifts please put down your. cameras and pray for H put down your. cameras go greet her help her go. beautifully and please make sure to eat. I'm sure everybody's having a hard time. right now when the serving staff come. please eat before you go this is the. last meal our daughter Huna is treating. you guys to the reporters right she's. like your niece right eat your niece's. last meal and uh head home thank you. everyone some netizens comment are any. other questions like quoting him are. there any questions I'll conclude for. now reporters please go find food.

upstairs it feels like he's a third. party rather than a bereaved family. member others comment he excitedly tells. his heroic tales and then he says he. prepared meals for reporters it's like a. press conference with a celebrities. manager maybe I like to overthink. someone's emotional state but it feels. okay again I don't know I can't read. mines but from what I can gather one. thing to know culturally is in Korea. when you go to a funeral there typically. is food ser D and you're supposed to eat. it's like one last meal and then you do. give monetary gifts when you walk in to.

pay condolences to the family so it's. like you lost a family member you're. probably taking off work you probably. had to pay for this funeral let me help. in any way that I can monetary wise. perhaps he saw reporters crying because. this is an emotional case that a lot of. Koreans were affected by I'm sure a lot. of these reporters have young kids maybe. he saw some of them emotional when the. cameras were off it's not like they're. recording each other Maybe maybe he saw. them all trying to donate and he's like. no please don't donate truly like I.

didn't ask you to come here to donate I. just wanted you to send Hunter off like. I just wanted people to draw attention. to this case so it never happens again. and then maybe he's trying to lift up. Spirits because the reporters are also. emotional like even him saying you know. she's like your niece right like this is. one last meal from your niece it almost. sounds like he's trying to be like it's. okay everyone we're all going to get. through it but the fact that a lot of. netizens they just end up taking it such. a weird.

way it's just very complicated and I. just don't think that we know anything. about it and it just feels like if we're. not seeing the perfect picture of the. perfect victim's family a lot of people. are losing sympathy which I find to be. really disturbing he also says in. another interview I don't know politics. I want the highest officials in our. country to come see Hunter I want them. to listen to my story Direct I want to. receive that promise that is why I. requested it I think he is Justified in.

his anger I mean you could argue that. he's very smart about trying to get. action and laws passed immediately he. knows if he requests and pressures. politicians to show up and listen to his. story they can't just ignore him act. like they didn't see it but I think the. way that he words it I guess rubbed some. neens the wrong way they just did not. like it the acting president did attend. now which leads me to the next point of. cont attention in this case the proposed. Hunter law Hunter's father is working on. a law being passed that would make it so.

that teachers with mental health issues. will receive necessary treatment and. need to be cleared in order to continue. teaching the newly proposed hler law. would change teachers psychological. tests the way that they're evaluated and. would force mandatory leave if there are. any signs that a teacher is mentally. unfit in order for M to come back to. school 20 days into her sick leave she. had to have a doctor's note so they. wrote yes she's good she's good after 20. days. that is kind of strange people are. saying that is very strange additionally. children in after school programs would.

be required to have hand-to-hand pickups. so instead of letting her go out of the. classroom walk all the way down to the. first floor a teacher would have to. escort her from the classroom and hand. to hand pass her off to whoever is. picking her up that is what the bill is. so far proposing in concept the law. would create a system in which teachers. will be allowed mandatory leave when. struggling with their mental health. protecting teachers protecting students. and even the Deputy Prime Minister has. gotten behind the proposal of the law.

saying we will establish measures to. make it mandatory to confirm the. possibility of normal work upon. reinstatement with most netizens. agreeing that something needs to be done. like clearly something needs to be done. and for this case specifically they. think this happened on school grounds. she choked out a colleague 4 days prior. she was on medical leave they knew about. her depression like clearly something. needs to be done H there's family. probably needs needs to be compensated. as well financially for everything that. they've lost but it's just for this.

specific case yes something needs to be. done however the huner law is highly. controversial also keep in mind whatever. people are saying about the huner law is. not about hun she did absolutely nothing. wrong and this portion of the discourse. is not even necessarily about her or. what happened to her but rather the. discourse of what will happen if this. law is put into effect this is not an. excuse this is not reasoning from Young. she deserves the highest level of. punishment but a lot of people are. really worried about this bill being.

passed many netizens think it's not well. thought out enough like we're rushing. into it they also believe it's only good. in concept first they point to the. invasion of teachers privacy it would. create situations in which the law could. be easily used against them and their. mental health becomes very intertwined. with their working ability which could. actually further exacerbate their mental. health obviously not mang she she should. not be at work. but for other teachers who are like okay. I want to seek treatment for my mental. health but I'm scared the school will.

find out and then I will be placed on. mandatory leave also the law would make. it easier that a student could report a. teacher for being mentally ill which. many have stated would kind of be. inappropriate for a minor student to. determine whether a teacher is mentally. fit or not to begin with but they could. also report a teacher for being mentally. ill and it would instantly trigger a. series of actions that results in the. teacher forced out of work and. potentially their job being put at risk. let's be real the reason that this is. concerning is teachers in South Korea. and I'm sure like teachers everywhere. they're underpaid overworked in South.

Korea though they're not they're. typically the victims of abuse the. teachers they are typically bullied by. students and students parents in a. Korean classroom it's safe to assume the. student holds the most Authority because. if a student lies and accuses a teacher. of doing anything to them the parent can. file a formal complaint and almost. always the school takes the parents side. one interview on the street citizens. were asked how much Authority do. teachers have in South Korea they said I.

think absolutely none wow if a teacher. tries to do anything in an attempt to. teach a parent doesn't like it they can. get a complaint and it's almost to the. point where they can't even actually. educate students anymore the authority. of the teachers at this country has hit. a rock bottom I think there's something. seriously wrong with the education. system other state that they have read. news stories where female teachers have. their own personal Instagrams that. parents will go out of their way to. stock I mean nobody asks you to go find. your kids teachers on Instagram and if.

the teacher goes on vacation or goes out. to dinner with friends on the weekend. and the parents don't like what she's. wearing they will file a formal. complaint and the teacher will be. reprimanded at school for what she does. off hours and like side note knowing. Korean culture I bet it was like a. modest dress with 2 Ines of shoulder. showing another citizen on the street. says it's like the teacher's personal. life should not exist South Korea right. now because the education system is so. competitive a lot of parents feel that.

their kids can make no mistakes it's. also my kid first my kid first it's very. a selfish system where if the kid is not. doing well in that class maybe it's the. teacher's fault let's move the teacher. out of there and get a new teacher in so. my kid can do well even if all the other. kids are doing great I don't care cuz. it's about my kid so even in China too. right like cuz my aunt is a teacher her. whole life when that parent thinks that. their kid is not doing well they will do. whatever it takes even if it means that.

let's get this teacher off to get a. different teacher let's get her fired. yeah so I can totally see that happen. because how much weight they put on the. education you know and just last year. there were widespread teacher protest. teachers parents will accuse teachers of. child abuse if they even restrain a. violent student there are videos of. students slapping teachers. in class or if a teacher tells a student. they're disrupting the class to be quiet. they can be accused of emotional abuse.

one example a teacher took away reward. stickers because the student with the. reward stickers tried to attack another. student with a pair of scissors so they. took away the reward stickers because. you don't get a reward for being violent. and formal complaints were filed by the. parents which then in turn the. administration reprimanded the teacher. teachers are saying they don't even feel. safe to teach at this point and within a. span of a week in 2024 multiple teachers. in South Korea self- exited a few of.

them on school grounds drawing attention. to the very broken education system as. well as over a 100 teachers have self-. exited in the past 5 years in South. Korea one of the victims who self-. exited had been bullied by parents at. the school for just trying to teach and. discipline the kids she wrote in her. diary that every time she even enters. the classroom she feels quote my chest. feels too tight it feels like I'm going. to fall somewhere I don't even know. where I am the 23-year-old has PTSD like. from entering a classroom because of the.

bullying she faced from the students. parents she was found dead in her. classroom by her colleagues which. triggered a 200,000 teacher protest in. front of the National Assembly one. teacher was commenting on a news report. look at this like the teachers are not. here to protest for a raise or for a. better system to benefit themselves. we're just asking that the government. protect teachers from unfair situations. that are brought upon by students and by. students parents we Korean teachers only.

want the right to teach that's it. without worrying about things that have. nothing to do with education that's all. we. want with another comment reading I. worked in a Korean school once and it. was so bad teachers quit every year and. had meltdowns in the bathrooms some. students would even falsely accuse. teachers to get them in trouble out of. spite and plus the we talked about a lot. like when you're under what 14 or. something like there's literally no. consequences for yeah for anything so.

the kids just go crazy yeah so people. are saying yes the teachers if they're. not mentally fit they should not be. around students and especially for this. case but like future cases if they're. showing any violent tendencies if. anything is happening yeah they need to. be either let go fired in jail in a. mental ward something something needs to. happen to them they they're not safe for. society but this law leaves a lot to be. open it's like a further restraint on. these teachers with one comment reading.

I hope this act will be used properly. and not abused by some brat spoiled. bully kids who are menacing their. homeschools in society I mean I hope the. kids who should be protected are. protected by this act but you don't know. how to make sure of that there's going. to be people who are going to use it to. their benefit also there are concerns. that there might be a lot of. stigmatization against mental Health if. a teacher is out on medical leave. because some action triggered her to be. forced on a forced medical leave because.

someone saw her unfit you really think. they're going to let her back like these. are the types of parents we're dealing. with that took away reward stars because. your kid is a violent. offender you think that they're going to. let her back any of these teachers are. going to have their jobs. back I'm sure we can put into place a. law but it just seems like conceptually. it's great and nobody is criticizing. Hun's father he's not a lawmaker this is. not his job something happened and his. main focus is making sure this doesn't.

happen to another kid it is up to the. lawmakers however to revise it and word. it and to add Clauses in a way that it. also protects the teachers but it. doesn't seem like they're doing that. right now also even the hand-to-hand. drop off a lot of teachers are kind of. upset by this because the fact that. these programs were put in place where a. lot of parents could pay I think it's. like $60 for 11 weeks of the after. school program which is like no money at. all honestly when you think about child. care and like staying in a program and.

the government's not hiring more. teachers that's what they promised when. they implemented these after school. programs in schools they said we're. going to specifically hire after school. program teachers but they don't so the. teachers that come in at 5 6 in the. morning and teach all day they do after. school programs and then after that they. have to revise their lesson plans grade. homework and then do the like they're. working 14 16 hour days and so they're. like now you want to add more teachers. to do hand-to-hand drop offs and pickups. and like it's like you want to protect.

the kids because you don't want the. teachers to be mentally unwell but it's. also the system that's causing teachers. to be mentally unwell so if you just fix. that not saying mang would have not. committed the crime she I think would. have probably committed a crime. regardless of her occupation regardless. of where she was working but still it's. like all the other teachers it just. seems it seems very complicated. and then this discourse of what happened. to Han goes off the deep end once more. when a far-right political commentary.

cartoonist it's a loaded job title but. he posts a whole online article asking. is a child's death an achievement he. writes they always want to create things. like this does it make them feel better. to have a law named after their child is. the child's death their only achievement. in life which is an insane thing to even. say but it did make this whole situation. even worse because now we are one step. further away from Hunter's death and. trying to enact change because of his.

far-right political standing the. commment section turned fully into a. right versus left fight and again it's. like we have lost the plot once. more but one nzen does point out and I. do agree with this again regardless of. how one feels of if the Hun bill is. going to help or hurt the system I do. think that there's lots of changes that. could be made to it to benefit the. teachers and the students and the. parents and have a better educational. system but one thing to note is quote I.

admire that Hunter's dad wants a law to. enact to help Educators with mental. illnesses whether you think it's going. to work or not but the fact that he. wants to help them rather than punish. them what he and his family have been. through that takes tremendous. heart it is really sad to see that H's. entire life has become overshadowed. first by how she passed and and then. also by neens digging into her dad's. past and all of these different.

conversations that are now being had a. lot of H's classmates have tried to keep. her as she was in her memories everyone. says she was a really bright girl and. that even at 8 years old this is the age. where people start testing boundaries. but H just did everything with a very. positive attitude she never complained. in school she never complained about her. extracurriculars she was always excited. to take on more she loved soccer she. joined this local soccer club and she. was so enthusiastic she was actually so. good she would play with people that. were older than her and she would call.

them unie so the ones would tell her we. got to go toik which is like after work. dinner company dinner which normally. adults hate but she's like I got to go I. got to show up and show them that I. support the team and she was just always. so excited to try more and to do new. things and she would just like run full. speed in soccer but also when her. parents would pick her up from her after. school program people always remember. seeing her run full speed straight. towards her parents and just almost.

tackle them with a hug and many of her. friends and family have sent her off. with well wishes saying just like your. name play happily in heaven without fear. to our hun to our Sky who departed on a. happy Heavenly. Journey as f y she is now facing um. she's facing murder charges but South. Korea hasn't technically abolish the. death penalty but considering it hasn't. been it's been almost like 30 years. since their last execution it seems the.

likelihood of her facing capital. punishment is slim but a lot of Korean. netizens are calling for it for capital. punishment nevertheless she is facing. life imprisonment for kidnapping luring. and murdering a minor under. 13 and that is where the case of hun. from South Korea is I know in a lot of. the English sources and media there. wasn't a lot of discourse of everything. that was happening afterwards but what. are your thoughts it just seems like. it's spiraled into a lot of different.

things let me know be safe and I'll see. you in the next one bye. [Music].