Kid Cudi describes Diddy "Like Marvel Supervillain" then called out by Young Thug as a "RAT"

[Music]. Bada bing, bada boom. Kid, Cuddy's. wearing a pair of blue jeans, a black. leather jacket, and he likely smells a. little bit like cigarettes. And I only. say that because prior to sitting on. that witness stand at the very front of. the courtroom, kid Cuddy is seen getting. out of his car in front of the federal. courthouse. It's pouring rain outside. A. guard is holding an umbrella for him. He. looks like he's walking out of a Kdrama. or some sort of superhero movie. Kid. Cuddy is smoking a cigarette before.

walking into that courthouse, which have. left a lot of netizens commenting all. over the internet. When you smoke a. cigarette before walking into court to. testify, you know you're about to take. somebody down. And now he's sitting in. that courtroom. And I will say it does. look like there's 90,000 other places. Kid Cuddy wants to be. But he does sit. up there rather casually. Like he looks. like he might not want to be there, but. he doesn't look afraid. He doesn't look. intimidated. He looks like he's making a. pit stop on a road trip to the federal. courthouse before the long weekend. His.

destination is the Hamptons. Prosecutor. Johnson is in the middle of asking Kid. Cuddy a bunch of questions in front of. the jurors. Why were you concerned about. your safety? Kid Cuddy is about to open. his mouth and respond, but defense. attorney Brian Steel, Young Thug's. former attorney, passionately, I don't. want to say scream, but he states into. the mic, "Objection, your honor." The. judge is glancing over because I mean I. don't know maybe he's thinking what I'm. thinking which is I feel like that's a. valid question. Grounds speculation. future dangerousness. The judge does not.

agree. That's overruled. And the. prosecutor continues. Prosecutor Johnson. looks back up at Kid Cuy. You just said. you were concerned for your safety and. Miss Ventura Cassie's safety. Why were. you concerned about your safety? Because. I kind of Brian Steel stands up again. Your honor, objection. Can we approach? The objection is overruled. Could you. just ask the question again, Miss. Johnson? Sure. We were talking about. when you broke off your relationship. with Miss Ventura. Do you remember that? Yes. And that was around the end of the.

year 2011. Is that right? Yes. And you. mentioned that you had safety concerns. Yes. Why did you have safety concerns? Because I knew that Shawn Combmes was vi. Brian Steel is more aggressive this. third time. Objection, your honor. Can. we approach? Now, in the midst of this. oddly heated exchange, there is a. sidebar where Brian Steele asks the. judge, "May I?" Yes. Your honor, I'm. gonna move for a mistrial. This is Sean. Combmes's defense attorney. He says, "Your honor, I'm going to move for a.

mistrial. The government knows that the. answer is about to be that Mr. Combmes. has had other people killed." This is an. outrageous question. I'm sorry, what? The minute that you read this sidebar, because you don't hear this sidebar in. court, you get the transcript at the end. of the day. Brian Steel, Shawn Combmes's. defense attorney, is saying that the. government knows that Kid Cuy is going. to tell the jurors that Shawn Combmes. has other people killed. Yeah, that's. some crazy things. The judge argues back.

because that's just not how it works. He. didn't say that. Brian Steel argues, but. he will say that. He hasn't said that. Well, he's about to say it. I'm putting. the court on notice. This is where the. judge draws his boundaries. No, you. don't get to put me on notice. There's. no grounds for any kind of application. along those lines because no question. that you're talking about has been asked. and the answer has not been given. Now, what is your objection to the question. that was asked? Why are you scared of. Mr. Combmes? His answer is going to be.

because Mr. Combmes is violent and he. has had other people killed. to which. now the public is wondering he has did. his attorney just snitch on him like how. does he know that that's what Kid Cuddy. is about to say. I will say there's a. bit more to the sidebar and the. transcript on this matter but we will. get to that all in this episode. This is. the testimony of Kid Cuddy and all of. the songs that were allegedly made from. Kid Cuddy about Diddy and perhaps even a.

song that Diddy was on that referenced. Kid Cuddy. [Music]. We would like to thank today's sponsors. who have made it possible for Rotten. Mango to support Achievement Centers for. Children. They're a nonprofit. organization helping children and adults.

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the responsibility of the government and. all of the crimes that he has been. charged with are alleged. So please do. your own research. Any descriptions and. observations because there's no cameras. allowed in the federal courthouse. Any. descriptions, observations were seen by. myself or two of my other researchers. that are present in the main courtroom. They should still not be used as. definitive sources for determining how. you feel about one party or another. So, with that being said, let's get started. It's Kid Cuddy Day. The courtroom is.

back to being packed. So, I'm just going. to give you guys an idea. I will say the. first week when the trial really kicked. off with opening statements and then. obviously Cassie Ventura testifying, everybody was honestly shoving to get. inside the main courtroom, it was kind. of crazy. They only allow a certain. number of people from the press in. public in. And I'm talking full grown. adults. I'm like, I just saw you on TV. giving me the morning news before I got. here, and now we're like 2 seconds away. from a cafeteria food fight, from.

elbowing each other to get inside. That. was the first week, and then things. started dying down, and now the day that. everybody knows Kid Cuddy is coming to. testify, it is back to being fully. jam-packed. Officer RZ, he's the officer. that runs the courtroom, he is like very. strongly like he just only loves his. family. That's what he says all the. time. He's like, "Who's King Cuddy? Everybody's talking about King Cuddy.". And we're like, "Officer, Rez, it is He. had no idea." No. Okay. He's He's just. here to make sure everything in the.

courtroom goes smoothly. I don't think. he really cares about celebrity culture. and celebrities and stuff like that. The. press pews are like listening intently. because we have no further context to. everything that's going on. So, we sit. down, the attorneys are in there, and. they're passionately talking already. The jurors are not here. The defendant. is here. And everybody's very. passionate. And they're talking about a. dog. So all the press, they're opening. up their journals. They're writing down. whose dog are we talking about? Judge is. not there. The judge is there. And the.

judge is listening to the arguments. about the dog. Presumably Kid Cuy's dog. Something happened to Kid Cuy's dog. Defense attorney Brian Steele argues. I. think that if the government is going to. do this, they say that the witness's dog. was put behind a closed door on or. around December 22nd of 2011, I just. want to make sure that they're not going. to elicit testimony from him that the. dog acted differently thereafter, somehow traumatized. Prosecutor Johnson. stands up. Your honor, Mr. Mr. Msguddy. will certainly testify about the.

location of the dog when he came home. because that's relevant to his. understanding of whether someone had. been in his home or not because his dog. had not been locked up when he left his. home. I do think his observations about. his dog after are relevant to the. effects of this break-in on him. The. judge ponders for 2 seconds. He thinks. on like 20 times speed. I think the. judge does say he's not going to testify. about what the dog thought. The. prosecutor's like he's not going to. testify about what the dog thought. Certainly not. He is not a dog psychic. The press start giggling. The judge.

clarifies he's going to say that the. visible demeanor of the dog was. different than it was usually. And given. that it's his dog, he would know what. the dog usually acts like. Correct. He. will say after the break-in, the dog was. jumpier and scared and more scared. Brian Steel is not trying to agree with. any of this, though. I will object. I. don't see why we're getting into what a. dog. The judge though is seemingly in a. good mood. Let the record reflect the. smirk on Mr. Steel's face. So like we're.

trying to get a vibe as the press, okay? Cuz we're we don't know what the. testimony is. Kid Cuy hasn't testified. yet. So we don't know what we're talking. about his dog. We don't know what. happened to his dog. We're so in the. dark, but Brian Steel is smirking. The. judge seems to be in good spirits. We. just go with the flow. Honestly, we just. like when it seems like we should be. giggling, we try to giggle. I think. that's the vibe. But Brian still says, "I can't imagine that this is something. that should come into this trial. It's, you know, it's afterwards, day two after. the event. The next year, the dog was.

never the same. The dog urinated on the. floor. Why do we need all of that? Now. we traumatize the dog. That's really. what the government is doing here. There. are some dog lovers potentially on the. jury." The judge says, "I agree. This is. a very serious issue." And he cracks a. little smile. And then the press are. like, "That's our cue to laugh." It It. was kind of cute. But it was kind of. funny, I guess, cuz we don't know the. context of anything that's going on. These are just very serious, high-paid, high-powered attorneys talking about a. dog and dog psychics. The judge asks,

"Miss Johnson, I think there is a fair. point. What are we talking about here? Is he going to say that when he got home. and he opened the door, he noticed that. the dog was acting differently, or is he. going to like, now even now my dog acts. differently?" At a certain point, it. becomes kind of a far field. I agree, your honor. Unfortunately, the dog is no. longer with us. And there are literal h. from the gallery because it's just none. of us were expecting that. It feels out. of context. The way that this whole dog. argument was being delivered, it felt. like a very light morning and then it.

got very depressing. The judge says as. long as the dog's behavior is in. relation to the actual event, he will. allow those questions. And after that, I. will say the energy persists should be a. little bit more tense. I don't know if. it's just there's more people in the. courtroom and it feels like something. more serious is going on even though. every single day of the trial has been. equally serious, but there's just all. these weird tension breaking moments. I. will say there have been two court. reporters that have pretty much.

consistently been in the room while they. were covering the trial. So, it's two of. them and they'll take turns and they'll. swap out and then they'll go do the. transcript and then they'll come back. and it's like a whole operation. They're. incredible at their jobs. But I do think. like recently, I don't know if the audio. in the room was messing up because every. single time one of the attorneys would. talk, specifically Brian Steele, the. court reporter would not be able to hear. what he is saying. And maybe it's. because Brian Steel was not using the. microphone correctly. But it's a lot of. this tension of like, what did you just. say? And then the attorney has to repeat.

themselves and it's like a very serious. matter that they're repeating themselves. slowly and it's just likeing. Yes. So, you're saying the core reporter would. jump in? Like, can you say that one more. time? Yes. And then I think it's because. his voice is not one that we're used to. hearing that even like we get a little. jumpy. We're like, wait, who is talking. right now? Who's saying that? I see. So, it's just like adding a little bit. It's. like an extra zing of tension non-stop. throughout the day of like, oh, okay. Like, we got to pause and they got to. repeat themselves and it's just it feels.

like a different day. Beyond that, the. best way to describe Shawn Combmes's. energy recently is that he's been trying. to interact with the jury more. And I. don't want to say this word, but I'm. going to say it. I feel like he's. pandering. I don't know. That's the best. word that we can come up with. And I. don't know if he's intentionally. pandering. I think the perception is. that because for so long he would glance. at the jurors. He would nod at the. jurors when they walk in. He would. sometimes glance at them and shake his. head disapprovingly when a witness says.

something that he is trying to show them. is not true or show them he dis. disagrees with it or if somebody says. something slightly positive about him. that he will agree and he'll kind of nod. his head and maybe glance over at the. jurors. There is this one interesting. moment and I'm telling you everybody was. getting sick in that courtroom. Everybody's sneezing. It's freezing. One. juror in the front row starts rubbing. their arms because they're cold. Everybody's rubbing their arms. And what. it feels like to us is that it feels. like Shawn Combmes catches that. And the. rest of the day he keeps looking over at.

the jury and like very dramatically. shaking. Like those cartoons where. you're shivering and then you like rub. your arms. He's like rubbing his arms. basically mouththing. So cold. So cold. He's like rubbing his hands together. like he's starting a fire and then like. blowing into his hands. So, okay. Okay. So, you're saying he's looking at the. jurors and then also trying to signaling. to them, hey, I'm cold. So cold, right? Oh, I relate to you. Like I I'm. struggling just like you guys. I'm.

experiencing the same str is what it. felt like to us. Right. Right. It's like. a building rapport after like body. language. Yeah. And like he's like into. his hands, which I agree it's cold, but. I don't know if it's that cold. I mean, there's one part and like look, I'm also. honking in the courtroom. There are. times where I'm like trying to wait for. the least important parts where there. really aren't any where I can like. quickly blow my nose into a tissue. because it's more disturbance to leave. the room. I always try to find the best. time to blow my nose when the judge is. like not on the bench or when there's.

the least amount of people. But one. thing I noticed and this timing was. interesting this one time where and I'm. not saying he did this on purpose. I I. think it's a hard time controlling it, but it was interesting. Okay, so the. jurors right before they walk in, it's. pretty slow. Like the attorneys are. talking. There's like a little dead. moment where not much is happening. They're not like aggressively talking. about objections. They're just waiting. for the jurors to walk in. Sean Combmes. seems to just be sitting there. And then. the jurors walk in, they're seated.

Everybody is trying to get settled. Sean. Combmes reaches over, grabs a tissue, and just like noisily honks his nose. And I'm like, I don't know. If it were. me, I feel like I would have done that 2. minutes ago before they walked in. It wasn't like a sneeze. It was like you. kind of know when you're going to blow. your nose. So, it was just very. interesting. It felt like in in. conjunction in addition to all the. shivering and the rubbing his arms. dramatically, it just felt like maybe. maybe maybe he's just building rapport. with jurors. And do I blame him for.

that? Probably not because I'm sure a. lot of defendants try to do that. But. nevertheless, with Kid Cuddy testifying, netzens are starting to dig deep into. the Kid Cuddy lore right now. They are. psychoanalyzing all of Kid Cuddy's songs. trying to see if any of them were. written about Diddy. One Kid Cuddy song. is called Burn Baby Burn. And the lyrics. read, "Burn Baby Burn. Truthfully and. noted. I'm back. So please no more. speculation about that. I'm back. They. think I'm living life paranoid. Mother.

that man. They got me twisted. They. don't know that boy. I'm just getting. busy killing it. I just want to watch it. burn. Baby burn." That song was released. in 2023. So these are like netizen. speculations before Kid Cuddy is. testifying. So I think the minute that. people found out he's testifying on what. day, the day before, the internet is. like, "Let's try to dig up anything we. can find." Because so far all we know is. Cassie civil lawsuit stated that Shawn. Combmes allegedly tried to blow up Kid. Cuy's Porsche, threw a Molotov cocktail.

in there, and then Cassie testified and. she briefly also kind of mentioned it, but it didn't go in depth. And now. people are like, "Okay, now that we know. a g general timeline, let's go through. his music catalog." Another one is, "Dennis hooked me up with some of that. whiskey. It was released the same year. his car was set on fire." A few months. after, actually, like 2 months later, the lyrics read, "They really want me. dead. Hate. Not my fault. I'm. intriguing. Here I go with my second. wind. You already know I'm going in. I've been waiting. I've been waiting to.

on you." Now, side note, screenshots. show, old screenshots allegedly show. that he tweeted around this time when he. released this song. Do you guys want to. know whose girl found me intriguing? Wow. And then he deleted it and. allegedly he said that he was hacked. Even Kid Cuy's 2013, so this is a year. after his car blows up. His 2013 album. called Indicut, the album cover is just. an explosion that's framed. It's like. the red flames of an explosion with the.

parental advisory in the corner. And. nizens are now wondering, is that about. Diddy allegedly trying to blow up his. car because of Cassie? And everybody's. confused. Are these songs about his car. being set on fire? Which, side note, nobody even knew up until like a few. years ago. I mean, how did they keep. this under wraps for so long? That's. what some netizens are wondering. And I. think a lot of the reason that netzens. have taken it upon themselves to search. into Kid Cut's lyrics is he's pretty. wellknown for his artistry. People will. say that you can clearly see what type. of era in life he is in by his music.

His creative process feels a lot more. raw versus manufactured like this. sequence of lyrics will go Tik Tok. viral, which nothing's wrong with that, but generally speaking, his lyrics are. known to have a much deeper meaning. In. March of 2012, so just two months after. his car was allegedly set on fire, Kid. Cuddy tweets, "I hope they understand. that I really understand that they don't. understand." But again, nobody at the. time even knew that his car had been set. on fire. Nobody knew that any of this.

was happening. I was lurking on some. gossip blogs from the 2012 time period. And I did see one post from 2012. This. is from April of 2012, 3 months after. his car was set on fire. This is a. random gossip blog that reads, "Kid. Cuddy about to die." Sources close to. the rapper are alleging that he. definitely slept with bad boy artist and. diddy love interest Cassie and is now. living in fear for his life. Everyone. kept it hush hush in the industry, but. the rumors were bound to come out.

eventually. News of the betrayal has. been spreading like wildfire. The good. news for Cassie is while Diddy is. allegedly very upset initially, the. affair seems to have brought Diddy and. Cassie closer. So now I'm like, what is. happening? And there is a rumor from. this same gossip thread that Diddy's. song from March 5th, 2012 again just a. few months after the carfire is well. it's not actually his song but it's Red. Cafe song which is an artist signed with. Bad Boy and he French Montana and Two. Chains were featured on it. That song. has Kid Cuy's Kid Cuddy by name. The.

lyrics for Diddy's verse read sorry ass. out here looking funny so I'm in my own. world spaced out Kid Cuddy. Hold the up. RIP Huddy. Side note, space style like. Cuddy. Yeah. So, I think it seems like. he's trying to take a reference at the. fact that Kid Cuddy is not as involved. in the Hollywood life. He kind of does. his own thing. I see. He likes to make. his music. He has a lot of famous. friends. Like some of his closest.

friends are like Timothy Shalamé, Pete. Davidson, but it seems like he keeps to. himself. He kind of has his own little. world. So it's like a somewhat of a dig. Yeah. And then he says, "Rip Huddy." Now. Huie is apparently a friend of Dy's that. passed away. So people are just digging. all of this up in 2012 and then now in. 2025 and it seems like maybe Shawn. Combmes is in fact worried about all the. things that these witnesses are going to. say about him against him on the stand. because he has hired a man named Stefan.

Castella. This is the newest addition to. his legal team, but he's not going to. show up to trial. This guy is going to. be behind the scenes. I don't think. we're ever really going to hear from. this man. He is the former deputy chief. of the Justice Department's asset. forfeite and moneyaundering section. He's probably the country's foremost. expert in asset forfeite and. moneyaundering. He's actually worked for. the other side. He has worked with the. feds for nearly 30 years until 2015. That is crazy. So now he's gone fully.

private, his own practice and did he's. like come here. Yeah, he was like. probably at the top of the fence working. for the other side. He basically created. all the laws that Diddy is now facing. for the RICO charges. Whoa. He recently. started going private in 2015. He opened. up his own private firm. Basically, this. is the guy that wrote the legislature. that is now putting Diddy at risk for. his $400 million empire. Because it's. not just life in prison that Diddy is.

facing. RICO charges means that the. government can seize Diddy's assets. He's 400 million. I thought he was a. billionaire. He was a billionaire and. then a lot of that just started. plummeting. Oh, like his business. assets. Yeah, cuz a lot of it was his. like tequila and alcohol brand interest. that he had. And now he's being hired by. Diddy. Stefan Castella is being hired by. Diddy to make sure that he does not lose. whatever money he has. Now to give you.

an idea of how influential this man is, he has a monthly reader like a money. laundering and forfeiture digest. publication. 80 of the 90 US attorney. offices read the publication every. single month. This is the thing with. RICO charge. If he's convicted of that. RICO charge, his assets, if the. government can prove that it was used to. commit a crime, they can seize it. Wow. So it's not just life in prison.

he's like he could lose all of his. money. Mhm. So essentially, if he's. convicted and let's say an assault takes. place at a recording studio, that means. not only could the studio be forfeited. as an asset to the government, but the. recording company that paid for said. studio could also be up for forfeite. Basically, the prosecutors, if they get. a guilty verdict, they're going to go. after $400 million, and they're. incentivized to. That includes his. residences like his $61 million LA. mansion that he's been putting on the. market for the past, I don't know, a.

year. Multiple mansions in Miami worth. tens of millions of dollars. There's at. least one painting that we know of, which is a $21.1 million painting by. Carrie James Marshall. He has a private. jet, an entire car dealership worth of. luxury cars. That's all going to be up. for grabs. The government's going to. want that if he's convicted. As long as. the government can establish a clear. connection between each asset and the. alleged criminal. enterprise, it's the government's money. Wow. That's why he's hired Cassella. So.

now I'm curious, what is Cassella going. to do? His main thing is he has a very. sophisticated asset tracing analysis. That's what he's known for. So, he's. going to go in there and I mean, it's. probably a lot smarter than the way that. I'm explaining it and much more. complicated, I'm sure. But simply put, he's probably going to meticulously. document all the quote clean assets that. have no relation to any alleged criminal. activity, which means the government.

cannot seize those assets. There are. even speculations because people were. wondering, why did Shawn Combmes not. take his plea deal? So people thought. maybe he didn't take it because he was. so confident like he's a narcissist. He. thought he was going to beat the charges. or maybe they the government doesn't. have evidence and he knows it. Like. there were lots of speculations. But now. with the hiring of Stefan Castella, people are wondering maybe he didn't. take it because if you take the plea. deal, it likely would have resulted in. asset forfeitures. The moneyaundering. and forfeite digest written by Cassella.

shows that 89% of RICO p include asset. surrender. So, if you plead guilty, it. includes asset surrender. Wow. Which. makes sense. And if Sean comes is. convicted, it'll probably be a very. intense fight to keep his assets from. being seized by the feds. And it seems. like he's going to fight hard. Wow. Okay. Before Kid Cuddy walks into the. courtroom, everybody's already turned. looking at the door behind the pews. Like, we are physically turned 180°.

Sean comes included. So, I'm like. looking at him through my peripheral. He's staring at the back doors for a. second and then I think he realizes that. he doesn't want to be doing that because. suddenly he's the only one facing. forward. He like refuses to look at the. back now. When Kid Cuddy walks in, everybody's staring. Everybody's body is. shifting as he's walking down the aisle. Kid Cuy's eyes, just like many of the. other witnesses, are trained to the. front. He does not look at Dudy. He goes. straight to the very front where the. judge is. I mean, there's got to be at. least a few fans in the courtroom,

right? Like that's what I was thinking. cuz that was a lot of people in the. press, the public, the gallery. I mean. hopefully not the jury because they're. not supposed to know who he is. Now Sean. Combmes is a statue like just a statue. again. He watches Kid Cuddy when he's. already in eyesight and then he watches. him sit all the way down on the witness. stand and it's a very intense look. At. some points during the direct, Combmes. looks like he's just staring in a trance. and all you hear are like the sketch.

artists going crazy on their canvases. And I will say they did do Kid Cuddy a. little dirty. Now Kid Cuddies, okay, now. that you say Diddy is like a statue. again. Yes. It sounds almost like when. whoever is sitting there is a little. more high stake for him or for the. media, he's like statue cuz he has to. really watch everything cuz cuz likely. maybe he will want to show some. reactions. So he put more emphasize on. his own body languages. When someone is. more high stakes, he's definitely more.

statuesque, especially if it's a. personal relationship. So I feel like. there are other highstakes witnesses. here and there but it seems like the. people but what about like all all the. assistants that you mentioned like that. has came before statue but nowhere near. a statue like I would say Cassie Don. Rashard Kid Cuy like these are strong. interpersonal relationships where I do. think personal assistants I feel like. Shan Combmes looks at them a certain way.

it's like a different category for him. these are people that have very. complicated interpersonal weavingings. throughout his life and it feels like. he's a lot more statuesque now. But. what's interesting is he's very. statuesque during the direct during. cross-examination because now the. witnesses are getting their credibility. is technically being attacked because. that's the whole point of a. cross-examination. He's a lot more. moving. His eyeballs are moving around. more. He's looking towards his attorney. and the jurors a lot more often. He. seems a lot more free usually. So it's.

very interesting. Yeah. Now, Kid Cuy's. direct examination is handled by. prosecutor Emily Johnson, the same one. that did Cassie Ventures, and they. immediately just get into the part that. the jurors want to know. Did there come. a time when law enforcement responded to. your home in December of 2011? Yes. Why. did law enforcement respond in 2011? Because I had a break-in. I'd like to. start at the beginning of the break-in. How did that day start? Well, I got a. call from Cassie around 5:30, 6:00 a.m., and she told me that Shawn Combmes had. find out about us. I was really.

confused, but she asked me to pick her. up. She sounded really stressed on the. phone, nervous, scared. So, I went and. pick her up. And yeah, Kid Cuddy is. explaining that even that phone call at. 6:00 a.m., which already based on the. time is probably disorienting. He tells. prosecutor Johnson, yeah, he was. definitely confused by the entirety of. the phone call because he didn't even. think that Cassie and Combmes were still. dating. Oh. So, she's like, he found out. about us and he probably was thinking. something along the lines of like, why. does it matter? I thought you guys. weren't together. M he says I didn't.

think that she was still dealing with. him because prior to all of this when. Kid Cuddy and Cassie start dating he. says that he asked her about Shawn. Combmes quote like if they're still. hanging out. Now Johnson is clarifying. though because after the phone call he. goes to pick her up. So she's like why. if you just found out that they're still. dating and she told you they weren't. dating like why'd you go pick her up? She wanted me to come pick her up and. she was also worried that he would come. to my house because he asked for my. address and she gave it to him. He goes. to pick her up and he describes Cassie.

as being really quote very stressed, nervous, just scared. Didn't know what. Shawn Combmes would do. Just to. reference going back to Cassie's. testimony, I don't I do think it's. interesting how each witness talks about. the same incident from a different. perspective. I do wonder with the trial. expected to be a full 8 weeks how the. jurors are going to like piece it. together because just even going through. and cross referencing the transcripts is. a lot of work. And so far, we're only a. small portion through the entirety of. the trial. Now, we cross reference with.

Cassie's testimony about that night, and. she was likely stressed and scared. because she was at Sean's house. She. describes him as I raped. He had just. found out at a freakoff about the fact. that she was dating Scott Mscotti. through her text message in the middle. of a freakout. Yes. And she said he was. just so angry. She says he threatens to. release freakoff videos of her to hurt. her relationship with God. And as she's. leaving his house, she says, quote, "He, Sean, kicked me in my back on the way. out, so I just had a big bruise on my.

back. I fell to the floor and yeah, then. I left." She goes back to her hotel to. get her burner phone to call Scott. But. the hotel room that she was staying in. was trashed completely. She said it was. just torn up. There was somebody peed. all over the floor in the bathroom. My. clothes were everywhere. The furniture. was turned upside down. Somebody pooped. in the toilet and didn't flush it. It. was just gross. Presumably, she called. Scott from this hotel sounding. terrified. He picks her up and the two. of them go to another hotel, the Sunset. Marquee. Kid Cuddy says he picked that.

hotel because he's to go there and he. just thought it was a safe place where. she would be off the radar. At this. point, Sean Combmes isn't even looking. at Kid Cuddy. He's just taking notes in. the courtroom. Like, he looks It's so. disorienting because sometimes I look. over at him and he has the demeanor of. someone in the press pew, which I don't. know what demeanor I'm expecting from. him. And this is not like me critiquing. his demeanor or like trying to police. someone's demeanor or psychoanalyze it. It just always throws me off sometimes. because he'll have his glasses on and he.

just looks like a member of the press. just like let me write down my notes cuz. I don't get that feeling from the. attorneys next to him. I I maybe it's. when he writes he like tilts his head. sometimes and it has like a more like. relaxed demeanor whereas attorneys are. like scribbling kind of like head down. I mean, he has those moments, too, but. it's just interesting. Now, they get to. the hotel, and the only person that they. really speak to, aside from hotel staff, is a woman named Capricorn Clark. And. you have to remember this woman because.

in a day or two there's going to be an. episode on her. And it was probably the. most interesting testimony. Uh, a lot. happens in that testimony, but this is. she's the one that accuses Shawn Combmes. of kidnapping her by gunpoint. So, we'll. get into that in the next episode, but. this is where things kind of get tricky. Kid Cuddy describes Capricorn Clark as. being Cassie's close friend. So, there. must be a very strong friendship element. there, or at least perceived to be, right? But Kid Cuddy even says, "She. hung out with me and Cassie a lot.". However, Capricorn Clark is also Shawn.

Combmes's former assistant and now the. director for his clothing brand, Shaun. John, the global director, meaning she. is ultimately on Diddy's payroll. So now. at the hotel, they're on the phone with. Capricorn Clark and Kid Cuddy says he. hears Capricorn's voice over the phone. and she sounds very scared. Sounds like. she's on the verge of tears. And. according to Kid Cuddy, that's when she. tells them, Capricorn tells them that. Shawn Combmes and the affiliates were in. my house and she was in a car. She was. forced to go along with them over there.

This is what Kid Cuy's saying. Now, to. give you some context to all of this, and like we don't get as much context. during Kid Cuddy's testimony, but now. that Capricorn Clark has testified, which again, that episode should be up. in like a day or two, we get a fuller. picture. Capricorn Clark was one of the. only people in Cassie's life that knew. that she was dating Scott Mscotti, aside. from her family. So, they Capricorn. Clark calls them and she's like, "Hey, I'm at Kid Cuddy's house. Sean Combmes.

and his affiliates are at Kid Cuy's. house. They're like inside his house. So, she's calling secretly. Oh. She's. like, I'm in the car outside and they're. in your house. I'm giving you a heads. up. Yeah. Okay. Well, she doesn't even. know Kid Cuy's with Cassie. She's like, hey, Cassie, they're inside Kid Cuddy's. house right now. I'm outside in the car. They forced me to come here. I don't. want to be here. Mhm. Now, at that. point, Kid Cuddy says he kind of starts. freaking out. Prosecutor Johnson asks.

him, "After you spoke to Capricorn, what. did you do next?" I got in my car and I. went to my house. Did anyone go with you. when you went to your house after the. phone call? No. He gets into his Porsche. 911 Cabriolet, kind of pertinent later. Now, side note, Cabriolet is essentially. just a convertible. And his specifically. has a soft top, so it's more fabric than. a hard shell convertible. Again, pertinent later. He gets into his car. It's nighttime in LA. He's driving to. his house. He starts calling Shawn. Combmes. He has his number. Can you.

describe the conversation that you had. with Mr. Combmes on the drive to your. home? Yeah. I'm going to be very candid. I said, "Mother, are you in my house?". And he was like, "What's up? I just want. to talk to you." I was like, "I'm on my. way over right now." He was like, "Well, I'm here." That is kind of crazy. I. don't know if that's me. I would. probably call the cops or something. because someone's like breaking into my. house already with some crazy intent. I. don't know if I would just go straight. home and face them like that. I Yeah, I. also don't know if I would start the.

phone call with mother, you in my house. when they're in my house. Yeah, that's. kind of Yeah, but he's like driving. He's on the phone. When Mr. Combmes. said, I'm over here waiting for you. What was your understanding of where Mr. Combmes was located at my house? What. was Mr. Comb's tone of voice during the. phone call? Calm. When Kid Cuddy gets. home, he says the outside looks the same. as it typically does. it looks normal. So, he doesn't do like a thorough check. It's not until later he realizes that. all of the security cameras that were on.

the outside of his house, for example, the camera that would be angled towards. the front door because that makes the. most sense. You want to see who's coming. at the door coming and going, but. someone had moved it to the opposite. side. Basically, probably pointing it at. like the wall, like the building or. something where it doesn't really. capture anything of importance or. relevance. Kid Cuddy walks into the. house and there is nobody there. Nobody's in the house. It's empty. So, were they lying? Is Capricorn Clark. lying? Is Shawn Combmes lying? Was. nobody inside the house? He says that he.

notices two things. First of all, it's. December of 2011, so right around. Christmas time, and Kid Cuddy had gone. to Chanel, bought a bunch of Christmas. gifts for his entire family, and they're. all open. There's no talk about if any. of the gifts were stolen, so I don't. think so. And this is. perhaps perhaps an associate of Combmes, perhaps a random person unrelated, perhaps Combmes himself. It seems like. this is their way of telling Kid Cuddy, I was in your house. But of course, you. can't do anything about it because it's. not like they broke the furniture. It's. not like they stole the goods. It's like.

a what? Just move some [ __ ] around. Yeah. And like we lived in LA for 10. years. Imagine calling LAPD and saying, "So they came in and they opened. unwrapped the Chanel bows." They'd be. like, "Hey, we don't care." Yeah. Yeah. Like, they really wouldn't care. You. called the police about a break-in. They've opened your Christmas presents. No property damage. Nobody was injured. They didn't even steal said Christmas. presents. The LAPD would act like they. didn't see a thing. Now, the second. thing that he noticed was he normally.

lets his dog roam the entire house. His. dog is now, which side note, okay, maybe. the LAPD. did try harder cuz he's kid cuddy. I. don't I'm just saying as a normal person. with LAPD, they're they're No, like I. can totally totally see that. Yeah. 100%. Okay. Oh, yeah. They would totally. say they're going to testify. So, we'll. see. But it doesn't seem like the. investigation really led anywhere and I. can totally see them not caring at all. So, now he also notices that. And the. second thing that Kid Cuddy notices is.

that he normally lets his dog roam the. entire house. His dog is now locked away. in the bathroom. So, this is like what. the attorneys are all arguing about. They didn't want this in the. testimony. The door is shut and. everything is not normal because that's. not what happens. Like this is weird. Now, the sad part is even afterwards, Kid Cuy's dog was basically never the. same. Kid Cuddy does describe his dog as. being very jittery and kind of on edge. all the time. afterwards, which I'm sure the defense. attorneys really did not like that he.

said that. After you got to your home, what did you do after that? I got in the. car and that's when I called Shawn. Combmes. Why did you call Mr. Combmes. again? Because I was looking for him. Why were you looking for him? Because I. wanted to confront him. I wanted to. fight him, you know. Did he answer? Yes. Can you describe that conversation for. the jury? I can't remember my exact. words, but I was kind of like asking him. where he was and he was like, "I'm on my. way. I'm on my way." So, at that point, I hung up and I thought to myself, I was. like, "Okay, you're angry. You're angry.

Just think about this." You know, and. like I just thought like I don't know. who he has with him. I don't know what. his intentions are. What were your. concerns, if any, about going to your. house that day? I didn't really know. what I was walking into, but I was so. angry at first. Then once I thought. about it, not really knowing if they had. any weapons or if there was any type of. situation like that, that's when I. called the police. Mr. Mscuddy, what did. you do after that phone call with Sean. Combmes? I thought about the reality of.

the situation, not knowing what I was. walking myself into. So, I decided to. call the police. Kid Cuddi says the. police arrive at his house, they make a. report, and he goes back to Cassie, who. just seems really stressed out. Now, since it's right around Christmas time, and I don't know if this was planned, I. don't think that this was the original. plan. Cassie had plans to go be with her. family in Connecticut. Kid Cuddy ends up. flying out with her. So, perhaps it's. like this event startled them, so he got. tickets or he already was going to go. I. don't know. He flies out with her, stays. with her and the family. Can you.

generally describe Miss Ventura's. demeanor when you were in Connecticut. for the holidays with her family? I. think being around her family really did. a lot for her at the time. She really. needed it. But while they're still. there, Sean Combmes is still reaching. out to Kid Cuddy, texting him. I mean, it wasn't every day. It kind of stopped. at some point when I responded to him. and I told him I didn't want to talk. He. his text messages were always along the. lines of him wanting to speak. Just get. to the bottom of it. When you say get to. the bottom of it, what are you talking. about? Just figure out what's going on. I guess he was in the dark about things. and wanted to talk, but at that point,

you know, post breakin, I didn't want to. talk to him. Did you respond to Mr. Comb's text? Yeah, I told him, you know, specifically told him, "You broke into. my house. You messed with my dog. Like, I don't want to talk to you." This is. December of 2011. They get back in. January of 2012, so like weeks later, Cassie and Kid Cuddy aren't even hanging. out much anymore. So, according to. Cassy's testimony, she mentioned that. she wanted to end things with Kid Cuddy. because it was just escalating to be too. much and she felt like this was the. safest way for all the parties involved.

Now, January 9th, 2012, Kid Cuddy gets a. call from his dog sitter at 6:30 in the. morning that someone just tried to blow. up his car. Now, to give you some. context, Kid Cuddy's not home. He's at a. friend's house about 45 minutes away. The dog sitter's at his house. She calls. him from his residence. And according to. Kid Cuddy, she told me my car was on. fire in the driveway. After you received. this phone call from your dog sitter, what did you do? I immediately went to. my house. Pictures of his car are.

admitted to evidence, and it looks like. someone sliced open the top of his soft. top convertible, threw in a Molotov. cocktail. Visually, there's charring on. the driver's seat. There's smoke damage. on the door. There's charring on the. roof. Some say visually, the car doesn't. look that messed up, but it was bad. enough that the car was totaled. It was. not salvageable. Mr. Mscotti, what's a. Molotov cocktail to your. understanding? It's uh would you say an. explosive or something like that? I. guess it's a bottle with some type of. inflammatory liquid inside and a cloth.

that you light on fire and it ignites. Kid Cuddy says that he actually saw the. Molotov cocktail when he got home and it. was just kind of burnt up. What was your. reaction to your car being set on. fire? He leans into the mic. What the. [ __ ] Objection. overruled. Kid Cuddi goes on to testify. that the last time that he saw Cassie. Ventura was a few days after his car was. lit on fire at the Soho house in LA, which Cassie also confirmed in her. testimony, and it's going to be the.

three of them meeting, Shawn Combmes, Kid Cuy, and Cassie. Kid Cuddy says, "I. reached out to Shawn Combmes after my. car caught on fire, and you know, finally told him that we needed to meet. up to talk. You know, he had been. wanting to talk to me. So after the. fire, I was like, "This is getting out. of hand. I need to talk to him." Why was. it Mr. Combmes you reached out to after. the fire? Because I knew he had. something to do with it. Objection. Objection is sustained. The jury should. disregard the witness's last answer. Can. you describe what happened when you.

arrived at the Soho House? Yeah. I. walked in and I met with um Drock Kza's. security guard. He was escorting me into. one of the meeting rooms in Soho House. And then I got into the meeting room and. it was like one wall was all window and. Sean Combmes was standing there staring. out the window with his hands behind his. back like a Marvel super villain and the. whole courtroom they're just giggling. The jurors are giggling because it's so. like out of nowhere like we were so. serious like everything is so tense and. then we are kind of p I mean you can.

picture him standing there looking like. a Marvel super villain and the only. person not smiling, not giggling is Sean. Combmes. He does not find this very. funny at all. Really not even a little. bit humorous. Huh? Yeah. It was just me. and him in the room. No security, nobody. What happened when it was just. you and Mr. Combmes in the room at the. Soho house? We discussed, you know, pretty much the whole story about how me. and Cassie first started to date to what. it was to how it ended and his whole.

point was, you know, we were homies. You. know, that was my girl. I let him know. that, you know, she told me that they. were broken up and I took her word for. it. Yeah. What was Mr. Combmes's. demeanor during the meeting? Very calm. He kept offering me water. He offered me. water twice, which I thought this part. was so interesting because I don't think. offering water to someone twice itself. is intriguing or memorable in any way. because this happened in 2012. It is now. 2025. But clearly it must have stood out. to Kid Cuddy enough that not only does. he remember it decade later, but he.

mentions it in the testimony and twice. Yes. And like again, twice is not the. like it's it must have something about. the two times must have been weird. Yes. That he can't maybe necessarily even. articulate because I don't think I you. know when you just have a feeling and. you're like that was weird but I know. Did he take it though? I don't think so. Right. Right. Right. So he must remember. that like you give me the water. I'm not. drinking that. I am not drinking that. Or like maybe he just kept saying you.

look thirsty. Drink some water. And. you're like, I'm not thirsty, but like. that's weird that you would even keep. asking me if I want water when we're. already talking and I'm not staying for. a long time. I don't know. Or weird. You. think like even the way that he tried to. blow up his car, it's already it's a. crazy threat, right? He's coming after. himself. Allegedly blew up his car. Well, yeah, he claims. Yes. Yes. But he. showed up. He still showed up with. Diddy. Yes. Did he say that if he's. nervous, he's scared? Cuz that's a. really brave move like going directly to.

Diddy. He didn't say any of that. He. just said he needed like they needed to. figure it out because it's escalating. too much. It's getting out of hand. I. also wonder if it's like, you know, in. in the industry you can't really I guess. I don't know. It's like going into your. enemy's home base. Yeah. What was your. reaction to his demeanor? It was very. off-putting. It was weird that he was so. calm. Eventually, Cassie walks in and. kid Cuddy says he was kind of upset to. find out that she was going back to. Shawn. Can you describe how the meeting.

with Mr. Combmes ended at Soho House? Yeah. We stood up, shook hands, and as I. was shaking his hand, I said, "What are. you going to do about my car?" I made. sure to ask him right when our hands. were clasped together where he couldn't. run away and I could look him square in. his eyes. And he looked right back at me. with a very cold stare and said, "I. don't know what you're talking about." I. said, "Okay." Took my hand from his and. he said, "Wait, I thought we were cool. Is there a problem?" I was like, "You. said you didn't burn my car, right?" You. said, "That's your word." He said, "Yeah." I was like, "That's it." A few.

years later, Kid Cuddy mentions he runs. back into Shawn Combmes at the Soho. House. He was with his daughter and he. pulled me to the side and basically. apologized for everything. He said, and. I quote, "Man, I just want to apologize. for everything and all that bullshit.". After I got the apology, I kind of found. peace with it because I thought, you. know, that was the last thing I was. expecting to get from him. Now, side. note about this Soho House incident. Combmes defense attorneys didn't even. want it to be included in front of the. jurors in the testimony. They argue that. there's no evidence that proves that.

Shawn Combmes was behind the break-in in. the house or the car incident. Those. investigations have led to nothing. They. haven't led back to Shawn Combmes. When. would attorneys arguing this right now? Before the testimony. Before Cuy walked. in. So, before and after. And I think. it's still a point of contention. Oh, yeah. They're like still trying to file. a motion to get it struck from the. record. Now, Sean Combmes is they're. saying there's nothing to prove that he. was behind any of this. So, that. essentially they don't want Kid Cuy to.

say out loud to the jurors on the stand. that he met up with Shawn Combmes at. Soho House a few days later after his. car was lit on fire because he thought. Shawn Combmes did it. The prosecutors. are arguing, well, that's what Kid Cuy. thought. He's not saying, "Oh, I know he. did it, or I was told he did it, or he. did it 100%." He's saying, "I went to. this meeting with Shawn Combmes because. I thought he did it." Mhm. That was my. thought, my brain. This whole debate. between the attorneys is very intense. I.

mean, the judge is trying to clarify. like, how would you explain why he was. going to the meeting in the first place? Like he's asking the defense attorneys, how do you connect the dots without. explaining what the reason was to have. the meeting? Like he's saying that's the. connecting piece. The jurors are going. to be like, "Okay, that's so random. Like why are you suddenly going to a. meeting with Sean Comb's son a few days. after your car explosion?" The defense. attorney is like, "How would you explain. why he was doing the meeting in the. first place? How do you connect the dots. without I mean, yeah, even though he had.

nothing to do with it. I mean, just. leave it at that." Brian Steel is like, "Just leave it at that." the car blew up. and then he goes to a meeting with Shawn. Combmes and the judge is confused. The. judge says, "Is he just like a person. who could figure it out? Like sleuth it. out?" He's like, "Is he like a little. detective like Shan?" Yeah. Like why is. he meeting with Shawn Combmes after his. car blew up? Yeah. Yeah. Cuz it's not. like they're friends and the whole. press, they're giggling because again. like the logic is not logically and it's. just becoming silly. Yeah. So it is in.

the testimony. was said in front of the. jurors. But after Kid Cuddy's testimony, which we're going to get into the cross, there has been a lot of social media. discourse. And a few that I find very. interesting and very notable are the. comments made by Young Thug. Famously, one of Brian Steele's clients, he goes. on to Twitter same day, very quickly. tweets and then deletes, "Damn, cutting. a rat, lol.". He very instantly deletes that tweet. because likely that started a whole.

conversation, a pretty heated debate. about Young Thug's own case, which side. note, there is no evidence at all that. he cooperated with prosecutors, but he. did take a plea deal. So some people are. saying all people who take a plea deal. are snitches. Others are arguing that. the only reason that Young Thug got away. with his case, quote, got away, is. because it wasn't handled by the feds, but rather the state. So they were like, "Please shut up while you're lucky.". That's what the nisens are saying. I'm. not saying any of that. I have said. nothing. Others are debating what. qualifies as a rat. Some argue, well, no, because Kid Cuddy only called the.

police later and then he never told the. police. Sean Combmes did it, so he's not. a rat, right? Okay. But then some people. are saying, well, the fact that he's. testifying right now is a rat. And then. others are arguing, yeah, well, this is. exactly what we mean by Shan Combmes was. protected by the industry for decades. because the minute that someone speaks. out from the industry, you're like, you're a rat. Yeah, that's crazy. Another musician that has spoken out. against Kid Cuddy is Kanye West, which I. mean, I have not really been following.

all of the atrocious things that have. been going on in Kanye's life and the. things that he's been saying, but there. are lots of connections here. Mainly. Kanye West's rather unhinged, outspoken. support of Shawn Combmes. If you guys do. want us to do a deep dive on it, we can. try to do one. Kanye even recorded a. phone call that he had with Shawn. Combmes while Shawn was in jail. And. basically Sean is telling him, quote, it's wicked, wicked, wicked. When I get. out there, I want to see you [ __ ]. tear down the stadiums. I need to see.

you back on that stage. I be dreaming of. that. We're going to have years and. decades to fight these motherers. I'm. going to see you soon, man. I got like. 59 more days before trial. This is 2. months before trial. So, I'll definitely. be touching in to tap into your energy. or something. Give me some life. This. ising sad. Puff daddy in jail. Sad as a. mother. The the devil is a liar. You. know what I'm saying? Is wicked wicked. Wicked. So you be careful. We going to. have years and decades to fight these.

mother. This [ __ ] sad [ __ ] daddy in. jail. This is [ __ ] sad as a mother. The devil is a liar. That is crazy. Yeah. And Kanye posted that phone call. Yeah. And it does not seem like Shawn. Combmes knew that he was being recorded. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now, Kanye has since. tweeted and deleted, quote, "I wish Cuy. hadn't testified against Puff. We need. not to be locked in white systems. Praying for Puff and his family. Praying.

for Puff, Daddy, and the family.". Wow. So, Kanye really supports Diddy. Yeah. Yeah. Side note, Kanye and Kid. Cuddy, they were actually closely. allied. Now, I feel like people who are. a lot more musically inclined than I am. can probably provide a lot more insight, but from what we could tell, Kanye and. Kid Cuddy have had a very interesting. relationship. Kid Cuddy was briefly. signed under Kanye's music label, which. is not so obviously labeled the good. music label. And Kanye even went on to.

call Kidy quote the most influential. artist of the past 10 years. But then randomly, Cuddy announces that. he's leaving Good Music. Ultimately, it. does seem somewhat cordial. Cuddy. explains, Kanye and I were talking to. each other on the phone, and you know, these are things that I've been wanting. to talk to him about, me starting my own. direction, and he got it because, you. know, he's trying to start his new path. and try new things as an artist, and he. was just like, man, I feel you as an. artist. It's cool. Whatever. This is. just from a business standpoint. There's.

no beef. There's no problems with. anybody on the label. It's all love. But. the two end up having a very contentious. falling out because Kim Kardashian, Kanye West divorce. Kim Kardashian. starts dating Pete Davidson. Kid Cuddy. remains close friends with Pete Davidson. because he was already friends with him. He does not cut Pete Davidson out of his. life. And Kanye is upset. To which Kid. Cuddy even addresses Kanye publicly, saying, "I'm not one of your kids. I'm. not Kim. It doesn't matter if I'm.

friends with Pete or not friends with. Pete. None of this had anything to do. with me. If you can't be a grown man and. deal with the fact that you lost your. woman, like, what do you want me to do? That's not mying problem. You need to. own up to your [ __ ] like every man in. this life has. I've lost women too and. I've had to own up to it. I don't need. that in my life. I don't need it because. at this point Kanye was doing his thing. where he's like tweeting and Instagram. stoing like just wow [ __ ] Right now. another focus is a lot of netizens have. been using Kid Cuy's cross-examination. to start a new round of discourse about.

whether or not Cassie is a victim. I. think that discourse is likely kicked. off by Brian Steel's cross-examination. I do think that when it comes to. cross-examinations originally, I mean, I. do think that regardless of like if one. thinks certain elements and like. twisting of the words because I do think. that cross-examinations are all twisting. the witness's words and it's unfair and. every witness walks away like what the. hell was that probably, right? But I. think in the act itself, I think Nicole.

West Morland really sells her cross. well. Mark Agnilo, he will do the. longest crosses in the history of what. feels like forever. And at every time. that he says one more thing, and we'll. get to that later, you just hear at. least like three people in the courtroom. sigh. I feel like one of them's the. judge, one of them's a juror, one of. them is in the press, and then probably. everybody else because it's like I don't. know why he he he's a filibuster. And. then Brian Steel, his crosses have. been like not like they've been okay. He.

has a showman stature. Like the way he. stands, the things he does, but when it. comes to especially this cross-. examination, he's just like to the. point. He's just trying to get. somewhere. Like he's trying to get to. the destination. So he goes up there and. he's got this manila folder filled with. Post-it notes and he's got this very. cleancut authoritative seriousness about. him. and he starts off. I want to ask. you some questions about your Porsche. Okay. Yes. So, if you remember, it's.

January of 2022. Does that sound right? Kid Cuy is like 2012, which is an honest. mistake, right? But it's very. interesting because I'm like, did he do. this on purpose? Brian Steel looks. directly up at Kid Cuddy almost in a in. a way where I feel like I would have. been thrown off and he goes, "What' I. say?" You said 2022. I apologize. 2012. Like I don't know if saying the. wrong year was intentional. Likely not. But like his confrontation right from. the get-go I think would have thrown me.

off. Like the what I say. It was like. very intense. I remember being like what. I say. And it was kind of in like a. southern accent, but it didn't come off. hostile. It came off like very. authoritative. It was just like what I. say. Answer the question. Oh, okay. My. bad. So it was just a little weird. I. don't think kid cuddy was thrown off. But if it if it were me, I think I would. have been. It just feels intense. Now, the main focus of the cross-examination. is that there's no witness putting Shawn. Combmes or any of his associates near. Kid Cuy's house or car the day that his.

car was lit on fire. And quote, "You and. Miss Ventura had been talking every day. for about a year. Is that true?" For the. most part. And that's why it was. surprising to you, or I think your word. today before the honorable court and the. jury, you were confused, very confused. to hear that she was dating Shawn. Combmes while dating you, right? basically trying to tell the jurors that. Cassie is cheating. Kid Cuddy responds, "Yes, Miss Ventura was not frank with. you." True. True. She played you. Those. are your words, right? Yes. When she.

played you, she was convincing about. that, right? You had no clue. No clue. You were with her a lot, right? Uh-huh. True. Yes. He also points out that. Combmes was the one that actually asked. Kid Cuddy to help Cassie with her music. basically portraying Shawn Combmes was. cheated on by Cassie after he tried to. help her by introducing her to Kid. Cuddy, who is objectively a much larger. musician than she is. It seems like. that's the point that they're trying to. make during the cross. When Sean Combmes. was with you at one event after one of.

your concerts in 2011, he actually asked. you if you would do him a favor and do a. song with Miss Ventura. Is that true? Do. you remember that? Vaguely. Yeah. You. graciously agreed, right? Right. You. were in a studio doing your art with. Miss Ventura. Is that true? Yes. And. that's how you guys really became close, right? We were cool before. And this. didn't hurt your relationship, right? It. was nice. You enjoyed the time with her. True. Yeah. It was We We're truly just. friends at the time. Mr. Combmes wasn't.

around you and Miss Ventura when you. were with her, right? No. You two were. locked in. You two were focused on each. other. You had a great relationship is. my point. Is that true? Yes. And you did. things like you exercised together, right? What? Exercised together. Kid. Cuddy looks genuinely confused. Like it. was so random. I have a sneaking. suspicion that the defense is trying to. draw insinuations for the jurors that. exercising as a couple, you think of. more inappropriate things because it was. so random. But later with Capricorn.

Clark, it kind of makes a little bit. more sense. Just keep it in mind. But it. was so weird. Like, what do you mean? Yeah. You went hiking together. No, I. don't remember going hiking. Now, a few. more questions are asked, and we're. going to get to this later. A sidebar is. called, and there's so many sidebars. during this entire testimony, and each. time Shawn Combmes is fully bent to the. left, like 90° angle, like at his hip. He looks like he's about to snap in half. because there are live notes on the.

sidebars as well, because the sidebars. are included in the transcript unless. they're sealed. And which means that. there's they have these monitors. They. have these giant monitors on all of the. court tables for the defense, the. government, like the people that work in. the court, and you can see every spoken. word in real time. It's like a live feed. of all the words. A lot of the. attorneys, they will just stare at the. screen during a witness testimony. because they're mainly like reading the. words that are being said. Now, he's. just reading the live feed on in front.

of Brian's seat, which is on the left of. him. Brian's in the little sidebar. I. mean, he hasn't been this intense since. Cassy's testimony. He's like breaking. his back to read the live feed of the. sidebars. When the attorneys get back. from the sidebar, Kid Cuddy is the first. to talk. Oh, which side note, before. they come back, there is this one moment. where Combmes does this thing where he. looks in the general direction of the. jurors, okay? He lifts his shoulders up,

brings them back down like a big sigh. like, and he starts shaking his head. like, "Can you believe this? Can you. guys believe what's going on?" Right? Like that was the vibe we got. It was. very like a little. theatrical kind of. like that's the vibe. They get back from. the sidebar and Kid Cuddy is saying, "Mr. Steel, I just want to The judge. stops him. You can't say anything. Mr. Steel is going to ask you a question and. you can answer. I just want to clarify.

something from earlier. You're going to. have a chance on redirect. Okay, cool. Brian Steel asks, "Kid Cuddy, though, do. you want to clarify something?" Yeah. Yeah. I don't think the date was 2011. when Sean Combmes asked me to do a song. with Cassie. I think it was 2010. Thank. you. Now, by the time of December 22nd. of 2011, that's when your house, remember when you talked to the ladies. and gentlemen of the jury about the. breakin? Yes. I want to talk to you. about some of that. Okay. You believe. that you left your front door open. When. I say open, I mean unlocked. Is that.

fair to say? Yes. And there was no. forced entry into your home. True. No. Am I correct? Yes. And in the home, there was no damage to the home. By. damage, I mean there was no chairs. turned over, glass broken, holes in the. wall, things like that. True. No. The. only thing, I'm not belittling it, but. the only things that were displayed. differently is that there were some. Christmas presents that were unwrapped. Right. Yes. And your dog was behind the. door, right? Locked in the bathroom, basically. Yeah. And no other. disturbances there, right? No. Brian.

still brings up that after the break-in, Kid Cuy calls Combmes and he's calm. And. Mr. Combmes, he's calm, right, when you. call him? Yes. He didn't curse at you, did he? No. He didn't threaten you, right? No. He just said, "We need to. talk basically, right?" Yeah. Later. after you got home, you called Mr. Combmes again because he's not at your. house, right? Right. And he answers the phone. True. Yes. Again, he's calm. Yes. And he tells. you, "I'm coming to your house.".

Something to that effect, right? Yeah. There's no mention of a firearm, right? No. No one threatened you with a. firearm. Right. No. You came to meet him. and you had no belief that he had a. firearm. No one. Miss Capricorn Clark. didn't tell you that, right? At that. point, I really didn't know. Maybe he. would. I could I couldn't call it. Let's. do it this way. Miss Capricorn Clark. didn't tell you that, right? You know. No, but I took it. She didn't tell you. that he was armed with a firearm,

right? No. If it's not true, just say. it's not true. You were in love with. Miss Ventura, right? Wait. So, he's. asked like 20 questions about how this. was in a scary situation. Correct. Yeah. He's basically like not to belittle it, but like why are you scared? Um, also, how do you know it's Mr. comes. He was. calm. Like, are we all dumb? I want him. to go home, walk home one day, opens his. door, and all his gift is open and his. dog is locked and that's it. But I feel.

like sometimes that's creepier. That's. creepy. Exactly. That's absolutely worse. because now you don't know what else. happened. If someone just steals some. stuff, remember the question you used to. we we were talking about back in the. days. What would someone do in your. house? Oh, yes. If someone can just do. one thing in your house that will keep. you up at night, what would that be? Someone will be like, I would just move. a couch to the other side. That will. keep you up at night because you didn't. steal anything. You didn't break. anything. What was the motive? What does. this couch mean? What does unopening the.

Christmas presents mean? Yes. Like it's. so much worse. Yeah. What do you mean? And then you you confront this person. They're not mad. They are calm. That's. like 10 times more scary. What is so. hard to understand about that? Brian. Steel is like, "No, this is nothing.". Okay. And you were in love with Miss. Ventura, right? Yeah. And she never told. you, as close as you were with her, that. there was any ever any type of sexual. abuse. Is that true? No. You spent time.

with her freely, right? Right. And Miss. Ventura was free with you. She was. carefree as far as you could tell. True. Yeah. Then Brian Steele brings up the. Soho House meeting where Combmes is. standing there like a Marvel super. villain and Brian Steel says, "Now Mr. Combmes made it clear to you that he was. also confused." True. True. Just like. you. He's similarly situated. He did not. to your knowledge know that you were. dating Miss Ventura, right? Yeah. True. And he wants to understand how did this. happen and you want to understand how. did this happen basically, right? Yes.

And Miss Ventura was living two. different lives. Is that true? Yes. He. definitely didn't threaten you. True. No. In fact, he was gracious. I think. your word was really. calm. Yeah. And you were professional as. well. True. Yes. And it was an. understanding, a meeting that this was. about a girl, a relationship, and both. of you guys were played. That's pretty. much how it ended. True. True. And the. person who played you is the same person. who played Shawn. It's Miss Ventura.

True. True. Which is a crazy question to. ask, but it was answered. The worst. moment though of the cross-examination. is Brian Steele asks if Kid Cuddy and. Cassie Ventura were sexually intimate. during their romance. Kid Cuddy looks. takenback on the stand. He looks. confused. He doesn't respond. But before. he can even get a chance to respond, there is a very swift, very intense.

objection because Brian Steel is not. allowed to ask that question. There is a. very passionate sidebar. Brian Steel. tries to defend his questions. I believe. that it was discussed on direct and I'm. exploring their relationship. What is. there to explore? What's the relevance. of the question that they were intimate? Prosecutor Johnson is not having it. This I'm watching them in the sidebar. I've never seen her this animated in my. entire life. She looks so passionate. She's going in that sidebar and I know. she's fighting. Okay. I mean it she's.

normally has a very calm outwardly. demeanor. She is like fired up. Your. honor, that is a direct violation of. rule 412. So basically that is the rape. shield law. There's two parts to it. First, rule 412, it prohibits evidence. that proves a victim in a case was. engaged in any other intimate behavior. Aka, you can't be like, "Hey, you're. accusing this person of essay. Well, guess what? Let me pull up every time. that you've ever done anything sexual.

with anybody else in your life. Let me. pull up a whole history, a catalog." M. or it's because it's just shame. It. makes the jurors feel like perhaps if. she did all those things, maybe she did. this thing, too. And that's crazy. Second, it bars evidence to prove a. victim's predisposition to certain. intimate relationships, meaning their. general attitude towards intimacy, their. desires, their inclinations. Aka, you. can't be like, "Well, you're always. going to bars and doing one night stands. with strangers, so maybe you did that.

with my client." Like, you can't do. those things. It's basically to make. sure that the victims are not on trial, that they're not dragged through the mud. and shamed to hell and back because I. mean I think even with this rule essay. trials I mean even this trial even with. the rule in place a lot of trials become. about victim's morality more than the. actual essay charge itself. That is so. interesting that there is such a law. The only the only reason that we know so. much about the freakoffs and even text.

messages and all of the intimate. relations that Cassie and Shawn Combmes. have had is when it comes to the. defendant, it's usually admissible. because you know it we have to Yeah. or. you know the male escorts because it's. all part of the sex trafficking. It's. related to that. Yeah. Yeah. But. anything outside of that should not be. Prosecutor Johnson argues that this is a. direct violation of rule 412, which the. judge agrees. And the judge asks Brian.

Steele, "What other relevance to this. does any of this line of questioning. have?" Like, what does it matter? All. right, I note the objection. No, I'm. asking you a question. What is the. answer, judge? Yeah, I think it matters. that there has been testimony from Miss. Ventura that she is being suffocated. These are my words by Mr. combs and she. is spending all her time doing. unconsensual sex yet she is having. intimate relations with this gentleman. and it's all calm and consensual. That's. really where I'm going. The judge states.

if that's the relevance then the. objection is sustained aka don't ask. these questions. Yeah, that's exactly. the the reason why this law exists. Exactly. Now, the thing is Brian Steel. likely knew that he's breaking the rule. and he did it on purpose because um. what's said cannot be unheard. Unring. the bell. You can tell the jurors strike. that from the record. Jurors disregard. that question, but it's already been. said. They've already seen Kid Cuy's.

kind of confused, taken aback response, and it's already it's in their head now. Yeah. Which also, so what? Like, what. does that even mean? Anything? What does. that even change? Right. Well, I. thought, okay, I don't know if this is. me cuz I was talking about it with my. researchers and they were like, we were. all thinking maybe it's a good thing. because she didn't do freakoffs with Kid. Cuddy. So, like, if anything, it shows. like there is a difference in the. pattern in which she might choose to.

have intimate relations, which is not. the way that is done in the freakoffs. Mhm. you know, so I guess there was like. that point, but then people, you know, it's like it's still back and forth of. like, does this hurt the case? Does this. kind of help the case? We don't know. I. guess it really depends on each of the. juror. Now, after Scott Muscotti is off. the stand. I have never seen I mean, that's the majority of the That's her. his real name. Yes. Scott Mscotti. And. he is off the stand. I have never seen. Judge Arun this mad during the entirety.

of the trial. He is pretty infuriated. The jurors are no longer in the. courtroom and Marine Comey brings up the. 412 issue. Prosecutor Comey says, "All. of us at the government table were. frankly shocked at council asking the. question that he asked about sexual. activity with another person. I do not. think your honor's ruling from the bench. could have been clearer about the bounds. of rule 412. Apparently, we need to make. them even clearer. The rule itself is. crystal clear that any evidence of any. victim's sexual activity outside of the.

charge conduct must be noticed and the. victim must have a right to be heard and. the victim must have a right to be heard. in a sealed proceeding. It is frankly. outrageous that this question was asked. in open court without notice to us, notice to the court or notice to the. victim. And so I would ask that the. boundaries be made crystal clear from. this point on that that question should. not even be asked without raising the. issue in the first. instance. Well, I agree with you on. that. The judge says one, the line was.

crystal clear, and two, that line was. crossed. Mr. Steel, I mean, you knew. what you were doing when you did it, and. you still did it anyway, and that is. unacceptable. Mhm. If there's any. application for further relief, I'll. hear it from the government. In this. instance, we should not have to run into. this issue. And that first question was. out of bounds. So, is it going to happen. again? Brian Steel stands up. No. The. prosecutor, prosecutor Comey states, "Our only request is that the question.

and answer be struck from the record. Otherwise, at this time, we are not. asking for further relief, but we do. want to make it very clear that any. questions like that are totally out of. bounds." So there's no like consequences. for damage is done and that's it, right? Well, there's nothing. They say just. tell him don't do that. Are you going to. do that? No, you're not. Okay. Yeah. I. mean, I I wonder if the government could. cuz he was saying further applications. from the government. He's open to. hearing it, but I don't think this is a. situation where I don't know what the.

government could do. I don't know if. they want to do that. That is crazy. So. the judge literally say you knew what. you were doing and the way he was saying. it was firm. Like everyone in the. courtroom was like we were scared. That. is a strategy that they're doing which. is dirty. You're literally crossing. lines too. Oh, it's been kind of dirty. in the sense of um there was a makeup. artist that testified and like a lot of. these testimonies I a lot of them kind.

of go over the same things that we've. already gone over and I'm going to try. to group them in ways that make sense. and I just didn't feel like this was as. pertinent as some of the other. testimonies. But Mila Morales, she is a. makeup artist for Cassie who testified. and said that she saw bruising on Cassie. while she was doing her makeup. What's. crazy is the defense tried to admit. pictures of Cassie, like half naked. photos for album covers because Mila. Morales did her makeup in it. So they're. like, "Yeah, we want to show this to the.

jurors to be like, "Oh yeah, this is the. makeup that Mila Morales did, but she's. like topless because it's an album cover. and it's Hollywood." And the prosecutors. are like, "Are you insane? Why do you. need like you can just crop her face out. and say she did the makeup?" And the. defense were just like, well, this is. like literally just part of the world. So that was another whole was it another. situation with the was judge involved? Yeah. So the judge was involved and. they're like taking away pictures like. some pictures were admitted that were. not super sexual and like topless and.

stuff. But did they put all the picture. up for for the jurors? No, nobody were. they were debating it without the. jurors. They tried to put it on there. They tried to put it on and the. government object to a bunch of them. because they're like she's literally. topless in one of them. Wow. And you're. trying to say, "Oh, I'm just showing. this to the jury to show them that this. is the makeup look that the witness did. on Cassie." It was just I think like. even in the courtroom when the defense. were trying to argue their points, it.

was like I you could just feel a lot of. people wincing cuz it's like we know. what you're trying to do. And that's. interesting cuz like you would think the. court is about justice and the truth. Meanwhile, a lot of it these are. subconscious. You're trying to say, "Hey, look at this woman dressed this. way, therefore." Yeah, it has nothing to. do with the case. Yeah, it was Yeah, it. was kind of. dirty. Especially the pictures. I think. it was kind of a lot of people felt ick.

about it. Yeah. Now, side note, speaking. of Brian Steel's kind of wild move for a. mistrial comment in the sidebar, a lot. of netizens were saying that Brian Steel. just snitched on Diddy. Sean Combmes. killed people and the defense team just. admitted it because he was like, I know. what Kid Cuy's going to say. The. government knows that Kid Cuy's going to. say, Shawn Combmes killed. people. Now, I will say there is a tad. bit more to the transcripts. Basically, in the sidebar, Brian Steel explains. that quote, he called his friend. Kid.

Cuddy called his friend. This is what's. in the 3500. Um, I'm going to tell you. what that is in a second. I know the. court read it. He calls his friends who. told him that Mr. Combmes has had other. people killed. I believe that's going to. be his answer on why he was scared. Now, side note, the 3500. So, right now it's. the government's case and chief. All of. the witnesses are subpoenaed by the. government or they are government. witnesses like willingly coming to. testify. It's the government being like, "Here is what we think happened, and.

we're going to prove it to you for the. next six weeks. We're going to bring. people to testify for the next six. weeks, and every single person, they can. cross-examine, but you're going to like. these are the people that we are. bringing." Mhm. To plead our case, like. casein chief. Okay? If someone is a. government witness like Kid Cuddy, Cassie, Don Rashards, all those meetings. that the witness in the government have. had prior to the trial, they are not. available for discovery by the defense.

until after the direct testimony. So, a. lot of the times the defense attorneys. will get all of those government notes. while the cross- examination is. happening. So, like some attorneys will. be reading through the 3500 documents. while someone's doing the cross. And. like, okay, I don't think because I know. some people were like, that's why Xavier. Donaldson seemed like he was stalling. for time. That wasn't the vibe because. he the next day was the same thing. So, that means they would have had the 35. documents all night, came back the next.

day, and then he was still doing like. his correct correct correct thing. But, I know that was like a speculation, and. I do think that happens sometimes. Now, obviously, there are witnesses that. they're going to be better prepared for. So, I think like Cassie Ventura was. probably one of them because they knew. that she was going to testify. She was. one of the bigger witnesses in the case. So, they must have had a load of. questions for her for the. cross-examination. But a lot of the. times they just get the documents of. whatever government meeting that they. had during the cross-examination. I see. That's called 3500. Yes. I mean, it's.

not like 3500 pieces of documentation. It's just called the Yeah. Okay. This is. like the rule. And um he's saying, "You. saw it in there." He called his friend. Like he probably told the government in. a government meeting prior to the. testimony. I called my friend and they. said he's had people killed. Right. So. then they just got those notes. Uh-huh. And then he's like, "Guh, I'm freaking. out." Like he's going to say this and. the government knows he's going to say. this because it's in the government. notes. He's already said this to the.

government before. Mhm. Now, it has been. kind of taken out of context where. everywhere I see on social media, they're like, "Did Brian Steel just. snitch on his own client, but that's the. rest of the context for you, of like it. wasn't Brian Steel being like, he had. people killed." It was like, "I just saw. the 3500. You probably just saw the. like" Like, I think a lot of it was. probably like he saw it and started. panicking. Not that I'm giving anybody. an excuse after the question that he. asked, but I think it was like that.

So, he's saying he knows that Kid Cuddy. called a friend and he's not actually. admitting that his client killed someone. or anything of that sort. Nevertheless, I will say it was very startling to read. in the transcript. But with that, I. think this is the perfect place to leave. you because the very next episode, which. will hopefully be up in the next day or. two, is going to be on the full. testimony of Capricorn Clark. She is the. one that showed up at Kid Cuy's house. during the breakin. She's the one that.

called them from the car. She is the one. that has accused Shawn Combmes of. kidnapping. It was one of the more. insane, direct, and cross-examinations. in the sense that I think, you know, we. have a lot of people that are. testifying. They have been in. contentious legal battles. they have or. you know even like Cassie and Don. Rashard they've been in the public eye. for so long and I think that they have.

so many scars as well they choose to I. think have a different way that they. cope with it and when they testify it. presents differently with Capricorn. Clark I don't think I've ever met. someone who has no filter is the feeling. and not that I personally met her but it. was like the most unfiltered testimony. in the entire entire trial and a lot of. it seemed like a lot of people were. emotionally moved by her testimony. So, there's a lot going on and that will be.

in the very next episode. So, with that, please stay safe and I will see you in. the next one. [Music].