I Spent 8 Hours In A Courtroom w/ Diddy & This Is Everything He Did
[Music]. Bada bing, bada boom. Tuesday, May 6th, I walk into this room in New York City. I'm already nervous. My plane was. delayed. I was supposed to be here. yesterday. The room itself is so. daunting. It's It's huge. It feels like. it could fit 100 people, 200 people. I. have no spatial awareness. It feels like. a cathedral church without the peaked. ceilings. The ceilings are tall. They're. made out of wood. and everything about. it feels like you cannot talk above a. whisper. So, right when you walk in.
through the double doors, you've already. walked through this like carpeted. hallway where you can hang your coat. Double doors open up. There's two. retired law enforcement officers next to. you. They're wearing bulletproof vests. They're retired. Yes. And now this is. their job. So, all of them are retired. law enforcement. And the first thing you. notice are church pews. Just rows and. rows of church pews. You got the left. side and the right side. And then above. that, and I'm just trying to paint the. picture, there are 10 massive.
chandeliers. Huge lights, but. chandeliers makes it sound very fancy. And there's crystals hanging off of it. They look like the ceiling boot lights. everybody hates. But they're huge. I. don't even think I could hold it with my. arms all the way stretched out. And. there's 10 of them. So to give you scale. of this room, it's grand. Interestingly. enough, magnifying these ceiling boot. lights tfold actually does make them. look prettier. So there's 10 of them. lined up in rows of two right above the. church pew. So five on the right side, five on the left side. And then you have.
this like wooden little barricade, like. a little wooden fence. I mean, you could. easily jump over it. There's a little. door, but beyond that, there's more rows. and rows of seating, but they have. computers and they have better chairs. with cushions. And at the very front of. the room, you have this podium and this. rope painting. It's It's a massive. artwork that takes up the whole wall and. it's made out of rope that's been tied. together and it's different colors and. it's probably two of me standing tall. The church pews are just rock solid.
wood. You know, it's good wood, but. every time you inch your butt, you feel. like the whole pew is vibrating. You can. feel other people moving. And by hour. four, everybody's inching their butts. because it's so sore from the solid wood. pew. And it's awkward because almost. everyone just sits on one side. Now, this is going to probably change on. Monday, but during jury selection, we. are all seated pretty much on the right. side. So, the left is empty. The left. side has a few people, but barely any.
So, we're all gathered on the right side. and we're not even condensed to like, oh, single file. Let's fill out the. first few rows. We're all scattered. around the right side. So at the very. front row you have the court sketch. artist and they're going to be looking. at Diddy diagonally. So he's sitting. right in front of the left side row of. the pews. Oh. And so we get like a. diagonal from behind view of Diddy. I. see. So the court sketch artists are at. the front. There's about two to three. And they have I didn't know it was this. big cuz when I look online it looks like.
a little thumbnail. I thought they bring. in a little notepad. It's like 2 feet. It's not canvas. It's it's like a paper. Oh. And they have chalk, they have. pastels, they have the surgeon. binoculars that they put on their head. to stare into Diddy's soul. Yeah, I. guess I'm They're trying to get all the. details of every defense attorney, the. judge, the prosecutors of Diddy. And. then behind them, you have a few empty. rows and then like a few scattered. people. These appear to be people.
associated with Diddy's legal team or. supporters of Diddy, aka his friend was. there. So, his family aren't there yet. They're going to show up for opening. statements, but they're not here for. jury selection. One friend is there. He. was sitting two rows in front of us. And. then you have the in the one wearing the. free shirt. Yeah, he was pleasant. He. didn't really talk to anybody, but yeah, he was sitting there. And then behind. him, you have the court reporters. And. then behind that row, you've got us, members of the press. That's where I was.
sitting. And when you get there, you sit. down. It feels intentionally. uncomfortable. And you're just sitting. on this rock solid pew. And the one. saving grace of this entire place is. there's massive windows that are covered. in sheer curtains. So you can't really. see out. But if you do take a peek, it's. the most beautiful view of New York City. and the Hudson River. But nobody is. looking outside. We're staring at this. one door near the front of the courtroom. because that is where Shawn Diddy. Combmes is going to walk out of. the man. on trial for racketeering, two counts of.
sex trafficking, and two counts of. transportation to engage in. prostitution. It's interesting because. when he walks in, his presence is kind. of like a shrug. My researchers and I. were staying up all night. We're trying. to find analogies because there's no. cameras allowed. And I want you guys to. get not even just like the visual cuz. clearly you guys know what Diddy looks. like, but the feeling that I personally. got, it's like a shrug when someone. walks into a party. There's a few ways. that people react. I feel like the first. way is, "Oh my god, who is that? Who is. that person?" And people start asking,
and you're like, "Oh, that's that. person." And then you have times where. people walk in, you look at your. friends, and you just go, you just shrug. like, "I don't know who that person is. Do you know who that person is? I don't. know why they just walked in here.". What? It's just very unassuming. There's. no strong presence. He just walks in. So, it wasn't as intense as you thought. it was going to be. Yeah. There was. nothing. Less presence. way less. presence because you hear all these. reports about how he does have this very.
magnifying electrifying star power. None. of that. But there is a lot of tension. And it's interesting because this room. is massive, but all of the tension, all. of the energy is just lopsided to the. front of the courtroom because that is. where the judge, the prosecutors, the. defendant, Sean Diddy Combmes, the. defense team, they're all there. And at. some point during the many hours that. you sit there, it kind of starts feeling. like a one-way window or a one-way. mirror. I overheard some people say it. feels kind of like we're watching a. movie or we're watching fish in an.
aquarium. There's no interaction between. the two sides of the room. There's no. conversation. Obviously, there's. nothing. It just feels like we're. watching something that maybe we're not. even supposed to be watching. Like we're. silent flies on the walls and we have to. be silent and we can't comment and no. one's talking and we don't exist to. them. That's interesting. Yeah. It's a. very It feels like an invisible force. field in the middle of the room. Just. boom, there's the force field. Yeah, cuz. you know, like when you're even in. public, you don't want to stare at. people. No, but all of us are just.
staring down. I wonder if that's why it. feels so intriguing cuz you're not. supposed to staring at someone. Yeah. Like analyzing everything they're doing. in person. You know what's crazy? I did. catch myself staring so intently because. I'm jotting down notes and I'm watching. cuz I want to make sure that I get all. my notes accurately, right? So, I'm. staring up like this and then I I made. eye contact with someone who works at. the court and it is very weird. I did. feel like I'm breaking social norms. Yeah. And it feels very uncomfortable. It feels like a force field. And then.
all of a sudden it breaks because Diddy. will turn around or tilt his head and he. will stare back. And this is a man and. my researchers warned me because their. flight did not get delayed. So they came. on Monday and they said it's not like. he's looking at one person specifically. I mean I'm sure he's looking at his. friend. I'm sure he's looking at the. people that he works with, but it's not. like he's looking at the members of the. press. Like he doesn't really care about. the members of the press like that. He's. not like, "Hey, that one person, I'm. going to stare at you." But he will look. at all of the members of the press.
sometimes. One by one. Yes. It feels. like one by one. Now, it's not like he. can spend a lot of time looking. It. feels like he's doing maybe a few faces. and then he'll wait, turn around, do. another few faces. I would say I could. count many of times I felt I made eye. contact with Diddy. And I'm not saying. this as like he was specifically looking. at me, right? But it's just he's trying. to see who's in the courtroom. And the. way he makes eye contact, I think that. was more jolting. His presence was a. shrug, but his eye contact is very.
intense. He reminds me of someone who. just does not break eye contact. It. feels like he's staring into your soul. M there was one point where I thought I. was going crazy and I looked at my. researcher who was sitting behind me and. she was like she's mouththing what there. was once where he's looking and maybe me. the person next to me or the person to. my right and he just wouldn't look away. to the point where I felt like all of us. started looking away first. Wow. You.
know, we were talking to other people. and there were a lot of people that felt. similarly. It feels very challenging. when he looks at people. It doesn't feel. like zoning out. It doesn't feel like, huh, I wonder why these people are here. It feels challenging. That's the best. word. Is he doing this on purpose here. or is this how he always I personally I. don't know him. I personally feel like. this is how he is. I don't think that. he's like cares about the members of the. press that much. This is just how he. always looks at someone. He holds his.
eye contact and he doesn't break it. No, it feels like he sizes up everyone. And. it's not even like we're important or. anything to him, but it just is very. interesting. So, this is week one of. jury selection for the Diddy trial. [Music].
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warnings, there are themes of essay and. DV. Secondly, certain portions and. quotes have been shortened and condensed. and or combined for brevity. Now, third, this is a very thick disclaimer, but. Shawn Combmes is presumed innocent until. proven guilty. The burden of proof is. the responsibility of the prosecution. Everything reported on in this episode. and throughout the trial is public. information. Any descriptions or. observations that I will tell you like. this is what I saw regarding the. defendant are personally noted by myself.
or my two researchers who were present. in the courtroom in person. Seeing these. things happen in real time with our own. eyes, that's what we're telling you. But. just because we feel something and see. something does not mean that our. experience and statements are valid. reflections of the truth. Our. interpretations of random things that we. saw in the courtroom are our own. opinions and are shared for the purpose. of reporting on current events because. they don't allow cameras. None of this. should be used as a definitive source. for how someone feels about Diddy and. especially not for deciding if you think.
he's innocent or guilty, especially as. the trial is ongoing. So, with that. being said, let's jump into a super. brief recap. We did four deep dives into. Diddy's case in 2024 after his arrest. Part one, we cover the FBI raids of his. mansions, the leaked hotel security. footage of Diddy allegedly physically. assaulting Cassie, his girlfriend at the. time, and multiple accusations from. victims allegedly harmed at Diddy's. infamous so-called freakoff parties. In. part two, we cover Diddy's history and. lore, including allegations against. Diddy's son, their yacht parties, the.
untimely death of Diddy's exartner and. mother to his children, Kim Porter. Part. three was an interesting one. It covers. a lot of different connections that. people have made between Diddy and 13. people who have mysteriously passed. away, including Biggie, Tupac, and the. 1999 City College incident that killed. several people in a crowd crush at an. event promoted by Diddy himself. Then, in part four, we went over the rumored. Diddy's list, which includes all the. internet allegations about celebrity.
friends who internet users believe may. be connected to Diddy's infamous. freakoff parties. And now starting. Monday, May 12th, we're gonna be doing. daily episodes, daily updates on Diddy's. trial. There are no cameras, no live. streaming allowed in federal courtrooms. There's no way to really get that type. of information. We can't even bring our. phones or laptops in. Everything is even. just hand notes. It's very serious. He. is facing one count of racketeering, conspiracy, two counts of sex. trafficking, two counts of. transportation across state lines for.
the purpose of sex work. Diddy has. rejected a plea deal and he is facing a. maximum sentence of life imprisonment if. found guilty on all charges. So this. week, this past week was jury selection. Opening statements are projected to. start Monday. And in some sense, it kind. of is Diddy fighting for his life. There. will be multiple in-person witness. testimonies, including Cassie, Diddy's. ex-girlfriend from the hotel video, and. we will be giving you guys daily updates. on all of that as well. So, with that. being said, let's get started. I think. the only thing that matters in a. courtroom, and I was doing so much.
research about this before we went into. jury selection, not we, but you know, um, is that the 12 people that are on. the jury, this is the only thing that. really matters, is that they like the. defendant more than they like the. prosecutors or vice versa. That's what. the government, that's what the defense. are trying to do. Does this person like. us maybe a little bit more than they. like the other person? Obviously, that's. very simplified, but is it? Some jury. experts believe trials can be won or. lost in jury selection. The first week,
the first few days. I was watching a ton. of videos, reading articles written by. attorneys, and I find it fascinating. that most of them say jury selection is. not about selecting a juror, it's about. deselecting jurors. One jury expert puts. it a little more blunt. You're trying to. get rid of the jurors who are going to. ruin your case and will not be receptive. to your arguments. Don't focus on jurors. you want. Focus on jurors you don't. want. But in that same regard, you have. to ask yourself, if I try to get this. person out of the jury, am I going to.
have a less desirable potential juror. replace them? Other attorneys candidly. write on Reddit, "Pick your leaders and. pick your sheep." That's the rule that I. live by. You need four people who you. think you can really speak to and they. got to be leaders and they're going to. listen to you and then later when they. deliberate they're going to lead the. followers to the answer that you want. Wasn't one of the latest um addition to. Diddy's team a Yes. a jury consultant. So her her whole job is this? Yes. Okay.
That's all she's doing. And she does. that for many trials. Now others say. pick your leaders. Yeah, that's true. But also pick them wisely. You want. strong thinkers, strong leaders that are. great at advocating and leading. conversations that also like you. But. you don't want strong willed jurors. According to one attorney, strongwilled, doineering jurors are the most dangerous. because they try to drag the others with. them. Letting one of these into your. jury can ruin the entire jury. Pay. attention to the degree of certainty and.
confidence in which they respond to. questions if in any way. It's not even. about the question being asked because a. lot of the questions being asked during. jury selection are very repetitive. Are. you going to be able to not be biased? Yes, you saw the hotel video, but are. you going to be able to put that aside. and not be biased? The questions. themselves don't say a lot, but. attorneys say it's the way the jurors. answer the questions. If in any way they. exhibit a tendency to challenge the. question, strike them. Get them out. One. jury consultant says, "Trials aren't.
completely won and lost in jury. selection, but all lawyers acknowledge. it's a big part of winning. Pick the. perfect jury and your job gets so much. easier. Make some mistakes in jury. selection and you're essentially down 10. points with a minute to go because how. jurors brains work matter more than how. you present the case." I believe that is. the most important phase of the trial. To which one famous jury consultant. says, "Jur empty cups." You know, they're not little empty cups where. lawyers get to pour their information in.
from both sides and see which one they. like. Jurors serve as filters. The way. they process the information distorts. some of the evidence before arriving to. their decision. Basically saying it. doesn't really matter how good your case. is. If someone has such a strong. fundamental bias against your case that. you did not catch during jury selection, you might as well quit and move to. Florida and change your government name. because you're not going to be able to. convince them. That's how these. attorneys describe it. Surveys done on. jurors, a lot of them, they actually.
start forming opinions on everyone in. that courtroom. I mean, obviously not. people in the pews, everyone in the. courtroom before the trial even. starts. They're typically looking at a. lot of the times the prosecutors and the. defense attorneys and obviously the. defendant. They're typically looking for. competent, energetic, organized. attorneys who seem appreciative, patient, sympathetic, good listeners. They're looking for a pleasant presence,
not the shrug presence that Diddy. brought, but I don't think they care for. that for him. Progressively, as the days. go on, Diddy does seem to get a lot more. confident. The first day that he walks. in, he's wearing a white collared shirt, dark navy sweater on top. It's your very. typical court defendant outfit. His hair. is grayish white. And the way that my. researcher describes it the very first. day because his demeanor does change a. little bit the second day. She says, she. says, "This is not Puff Daddy. This is a. man named Shan Combmes. This is a. 55-year-old man with probably a bad left.
knee." Which I would say is very. accurate. There were multiple times. throughout the first week of trial where. either did he start slapping his left. knee under the table, like just really. slapping it. It's not loud, but you can. see like he's slapping it or chopping. it. Or where there's brief moments where. everybody stands up and stretches to use. the restroom, he will start stretching. that specific left knee. He'll like lift. it up in a 90° angle and kind of move it. in circles and then back down. I. digress. Now, since cameras are not.
allowed in the courtroom, I think the. courtroom sketches, they're incredible. I think there's some debate about them. online. Um, I think they're beyond the. scope of my capabilities, so I can't say. anything. But sometimes maybe it's my. brain rot frontal lobe. I just have a. hard time trying to picture him from the. courtroom sketches. Like even during his. previous court appearances, I just. couldn't understand what he looked like. So, we have an edited picture for you. This was done using Photoshop. This is. not like an AI generated image. It's. literally a photo of Diddy and we, and.
by we, I mean the RM team members who. actually know how to use Adobe, unlike. me. He does look pale. He looks like he. could use a lot more vitamin D, but it's. not like he can put in a request for. that. A lot of people say that he's lost. weight. I think that he gained a quite a. bit of weight before getting arrested, and compared to that timeline, he did. lose weight, but he doesn't look. particularly frail or anything of that. sort. He's still quite the sturdy. looking guy. I thought it was. interesting because visually he looks a. lot older than 55. He looks a lot older. than he is. Really? Yes. He looks like.
he's like jail is doing a number on him. However, however, this is the weird. juxtiposition I felt when he moves. around minus his bad knee. The visual, he looks a lot older, but he's he's not. slow. He doesn't seem physically unwell. Like I feel like he could run a mile. Maybe it's the hair and maybe and I do. think it's the lack of sun probably. And. when he needs to get up from his chair, I mean this man is up. For example, when.
a juror walks in or when a juror walks. out of the courtroom during individual. questioning, so it's one juror at a. time. Diddy and the defense team. typically stand up. He's pretty quick. with it. He's not gripping the sides of. his chair or the table to get up. He's. not even slow. He's trying to make a. good impression is the feeling I have. He's very He's up. He's very respectful. On two specific occasions, my researcher. and I were scribbling in our notes and. we both looked at each other because. Diddy, we felt in our opinion, shot up. out of his chair quicker than he.
normally does. And we look and it's a. very beautiful female juror with a lot. of assets. Yeah. Really? Yeah. And we were we both. wrote it individually in our notes. Like. the way he just chewed up. Yes. Then the. way he just kept lingering and staring. like all the other attorneys sat down. first and then he he sat down. I mean, he could have been zoning out and. thinking about lunch or the case. I. don't know. So, the white hair does kind. of throw it off. It seems like he's.
turning into a full-blown grandfather, but physically he seems fine. Day one, he walks into the courtroom, and my. researcher was telling me, and he did. this again day two, he does this. practically every day in court. He. starts coming out into the courtroom, shaking all of his attorneys hands, hugging them. Then he puts his hand to. his chest and mouths thank you to the. people who came to support him. So other. people I guess related to his legal team. or his friend and they're in front of us. and he's like saying thank you. Sometimes he'll look around and put his. fist to his chest for his friend again.
His family will I believe be there on. Monday so we'll see what his. interactions with them are. Diddy mouths. thank you and you can't really hear it. And with that day one starts. It's a. pretty big day. A whole group of jurors. are going to be brought into the. courtroom. So, this is again same thing, but they're going to sit in the church. pews directly behind Diddy. So, they all. get brought in behind Diddy using the. massive two doors that I came through. And I sit right. They come and they sit. in the pews right behind Diddy. How many.
came in at the time? Like 40. Oh, wow. And they just single file come in and. they just line around the pews. Okay. So, they take up like five, six pews and. they're going to be sworn in. But while. they're coming in in a single file line, Diddy and the defense are staring at. them, which makes sense because a lot of. these attorneys, they write on online. and they write articles. You want to. know their age, race, gender, probably. even the way they're dressed to get a. grasp of do they have any certain. hobbies, socioeconomic status, what does.
their attire say about them, what does. their posture say about them, do they. look annoyed to be here, do they look. too enthusiastic to be here? M the. jurors get sworn in and then they get. brought back out of the courtroom and. then they go wait in another courtroom. So then they're each called in one by. one for a individual questioning. They. are very serious because some of these. people is going to determine Diddy's. fate. Yes. And they only have that. window of time to decide. Right. Yes. I. will say out of the I couldn't. So Diddy.
and his attorneys take two rows of the. desks and chairs. Linda Moreno, which is. his jury consultant, was to me closer to. the judge. So, she's behind Diddy. I. couldn't get a good look at her, but. from his the like four attorneys that. sat on Diddy's row, Diddy and Brian. Steel, Young Thug's former attorney, they looked the more most intense when. they stared at the. jurors. Whereas the other attorneys,
they were looking, but it wasn't like it. didn't feel so intense. Diddy and Ryan. Seal, I'm like, wo. just staring at. their faces is very in like they're. locked in. I'm sure everybody is, but. they look extra locked in. H they walk. in one by one and this happens multiple. times, but it almost seems like every. time the jurors come in, did he kind of. nod? It's like he's doing a head count, but I don't think he's doing a head.
count. It's just a thing he does. He He. has moments where he just nods. It feels. to me personally, and it's not a big. nod. It's like a ever so slight. like you're thinking to yourself, you're. nodding to yourself. You're not like. confirming like, "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's do that nod." It's like to myself. Does it happen to every one or most of. them or um when all of them come in in. that single file line, he's kind of. nodding the whole time. Day one, both of. my researchers were freaking out and. telling me, I'm like in the car on the.
way to meet with them, and they're like, "There's this moment where after the. jurors leave, he turns around and his. hands are at hip level and he kind of. rubs them slowly. It's not sinister. It's not like creepy like it just felt. like, okay, let's do this." It didn't. feel like, "Yeah, I'm going to take. them." It just was like, "All right, let's go." So now the jurors are going. to come in one by one for individual. questioning, but before they can even. bring in the first juror, you know when.
you're in a classroom for the first time. and you've walked in, you sit down, you. haven't spoken a word, suddenly the. teacher calls on you, and you have no. idea how to project your voice cuz. you're like, I don't know if this is. loud enough. When my teacher is all the. way over there, like I don't know, but. then I don't want to scream cuz that's. embarrassing. It's just like, how far is. my voice going to travel? I don't know. You're trying to grasp it. Diddy's lead. attorney, Mark Agnil, stands up to ask. the judge, "I'm constrained to ask for. another two-minute bathroom break. I. apologize." The judge is confused. Well,
why don't we try to get through at least. 10 jurors? So, previously, they already. had another bathroom break. And my. researcher said it was so quick. I mean, it just looked They were like, I don't. even know if Daddy peed. No, they say. they they also said we also don't know. if he washed his hands because it was. just too too quick. Like did he not pee. or did he not wash his hands because. they think in their timeline maybe we're. slow movers that they're like I couldn't. have peed and washed my hands like that. in that amount of time span. It was just.
so quick. It was super brief. Yeah. And. then they have and then court is back in. session. Then he's asking for another. bathroom break. So the judge is like, "Well, why don't we try to get through. at least 10 jurors where I mean, do we. really need to take one now?" Diddy. lifts his butt up from the chair a tiny. bit. And I cross reference both the. researchers notes. He raises his hand. near his head level, and the pointer. finger, the index finger, is slightly. upwards, but it's not like pointing. It's kind of like, "Oh, excuse me." But. he's barely looking up at the judge. He.
seems very meek the first day. He barely. raises his voice. And this is when he. says the nine or so words that everybody. was talking about. I'm sorry, your. honor. I'm a little nervous today. This. is considered the first thing that he. has said in court. And did he get a. bathroom break after that? Yeah, he did. How long does usually one individual. juror sess uh session take? It really. depends. Um. 39 a day. And then there's group.
questioning. Yeah. Yeah. And then. there's also a few breaks and like. lunch. Okay. So, it's like 5 10 minutes. Yeah. And then it really depends. Like. some jurors if they don't answer yes to. specific questions, they don't really. ask anything more. I see. Recently Drake. released this new song and. Okay, it's just not been a good year for. Drake. I mean, I feel like years ago he. all the titles are like the new face of. hip hop. Now the article headlines are. are we sure Drake is okay? But maybe. this is his comeback. Maybe this is his.
partial recovery from what happened with. Kendrick Lamar. He's going to release. new music with engaging lyrics. And this. one song, the lyrics read, "I've been in. the house, but I'm coming outside. tonight." Yeah, I love how you always be. speaking your mind. People want to meet. up. Talk about I'm vegan now. Evil. eyes are staring at me and I see it now. Shout out to Brian Steel. Take off the. cuffs. We leaving now. The whole song is. called Brian Steel. So, who the hell is. Brian Steel and why is there a song. named after him on a Drake album? Brian.
Steel is one of Diddy's defense. attorneys, but he's most wellknown for. being Young Thug's attorney. This is the. man that with his full chest said, "Your. honor, young thug, more like young truly. humble under God. That's what his name. means." Okay, he didn't say it like. that. He said it much more eloquently. he would be. truly. humble under God. That's what thug. means. But it was equally goofy. He also.
shows a picture of young Thug that. supposedly shows him making the letter B. with his hand, which I guess the. prosecutors were trying to argue that. means a gang that like that's a gang. sign pretty much. That's a B, which I. think by a lot of nizens or really. anyone with some ocular capacity could. see that it does indeed probably look. like a B. It's like an eye exam. And you. put the super clear slide and you're. like, "Oh yeah, that's a B." Right? And. I'm being dramatic. But Brian Steel.
disagrees. He said, "That is not a B. That is a P." Because my client, Young. Thug, Truly Humble Under God, is pushing. positivity. P for positivity. It's. called pushing P and it's positivity. It. means any circumstance you're in, if you. think positively about something, you. can make it through. You're pushing. positivity. You're pushing P. Listen, I. don't know. You know, I don't even want. to get too deep into the Brian Steel.
Laura and the Young Thug case because I. might do a whole separate deep dive on. that one. But now that same attorney is. sitting on Diddy's left side. He's. sitting right next to Diddy for jury. selection and he is interesting and this. is the part where I feel like please. listen to the wording and all of this. I'm trying to describe exactly what I. saw in that courtroom and there like we. went in with the idea of especially for. jury selection. We wanted to see how the. jurors would react to the defense and.
the prosecutors. So in yeah, I could. have walked in and been like, I. personally don't like Diddy, so I. personally wouldn't defend him if I were. an attorney. So I personally don't like. the defense attorneys. Like I could have. just walked in like that, right? But I. did want to see from a a more neutral. perspective of maybe how some of the. jurors would feel. And I will say Brian. Steel is very likable. All of Diddy's. attorneys are incredibly likable if you. remain neutral. How how in what sense? Yeah, let me run you through it. And.
this is very interesting because there. is a poet that reportedly even said a. jury consists of 12 people who decide. who has the better lawyer. And if that's. the case, the prosecutors, they're also. a dream team. They're like heavy. hitters. But the defense, they're. basically courtroom predators. They look. like the popular kids. How many were. there? Oh, there were a lot. So on the. row that Diddy was sitting, it was his. two main leads and then two to his left. and then there were three in front of.
him and then there were a few in the. pews. I mean this he's spending a lot of. money. A lot of money. It's reported. alleged by a young thug song. That young. thug spent $2 million for Brian Steel. And I'm sure it was more cuz that trial. was the longest trial I think in Georgia. history or something crazy. His defense. team are courtroom predators. And I say. that with respect and a lot of fear. Have you ever heard the quote, "You. don't get a second chance to make a. first impression." Mhm. That's the. feeling. So, according to one attorney,
trial attorneys are professional. communicators with their body. That's. what they're supposed to do. Or at least. the good ones. According to some jury. experts, they believe at the very least, this is a very conservative number, a. defense attorney's message is conveyed. 55% through their body language and tone. and not the words. I'm not insinuating. that that's what's happening here with. Diddy's team, but yeah, I think they're. all incredibly successful for a reason. One attorney says, "When you walk into. that courthouse, you're on. Everyone is. watching." In that courtroom, the jury.
is watching you, not when you start. talking. They're watching you from the. moment you walk in, long before you say. anything. They will notice everything. about you and draw conclusions about who. you are. It is advised that trial. attorneys e especially in the beginning. perhaps practice smiling a soft smile in. the mirror so they have a neutral. natural resting facial expression. I. don't know if any of Didd's defense. attorneys stare at a mirror when they. get home but I would believe it if you. told me they did because they're. incredibly polished. They're friendly. and aside from Diddy just sitting there.
at their table. A lot of people in the. courtroom seem to like the defense team. They seem to have good relationships. with the prosecutors. A lot of them used. to work at the DA's office. Yeah, it. seems. I mean, not the defendant. I. don't know about that, but the defense. team. So, you have his lead attorney, Mark Agnil. Appearance-wise. He has salt. and pepper hair. I would say more like. 70% pepper. I'll keep you updated on if. that progresses one way or another. during the trial. He has a bit of a. rounder face, which actually makes him.
look a lot more approachable and. younger. In a lot of the pictures I find. of him online, he looks kind of angry. I. think he usually gets his picture taken. when he's mid-sentence talking about. clients outside the courtroom. So, he. does look kind of his eyebrows are. crunched together. He doesn't look nice. in court. He looks mainly focused. He. doesn't look particularly stressed or. angry ever. And I'm sure that's. something that all the defense attorneys. are trying to show in their demeanor. He's got more of a geeky energy to him.
He walks in with one of those backpacks. that are like double the size of his. back. It's like the backpacks that the. smart kids have in school, the one with. 10,000 different zippers, which I feel. like is less utilitarian and more like. bragging about one's finger dexterity, but he has one of those backpacks. His. energy overall is the dad that you ask. to take a picture of you on the iPad and. then he'll take a picture of himself and. he he haha to himself. That's the. energy. I'm not saying this is who he. is. I'm not saying he's a great person. He has defended lots of questionable.
people. I'm just saying that's his. energy. If I know nothing about him and. I walk in as a potential juror, like. that's the energy I would get. personally. Mark Agno is known for. representing Keith Reeri, Nixium cult. leader who was sentenced to 120 years in. federal prison for similar charges, charges of racketeering and sex. trafficking. Keith Reeri also he liked. to wear the defendant starter pack, white collared shirt, blue sweater. And. the way that Mark represented Keith. could tell us maybe about how he's going. to talk about his new client Diddy. He.
does the very typical. You might not. like Keith Reeri. You might not like. what he did. It's disgusting. It's. offensive. It's gross. Ooh, all that. sexual stuff. But you can't convict him. because everyone was a willing. participant. You can't convict someone. for being disgusting and repulsive and. offensive. It's not against the law. Aka, a lot of people think that the. defense is going to try and say that. there's no sex trafficking in Diddy's. case, that it's just Diddy being a. swinger. Aka jurors, you might not agree. with the lifestyle, but that doesn't. make it a crime. Now, despite Mark's.
slightly approachable, unassuming look, he clearly is a very intense man. One. person describes him as a boxer, moving. through the courtroom, controlled, watchful, every word is a jab. Every. cross-examination is a calculated. strike. He has an unimaginable ability. to navigate high pressure cases. One. person says he's built a reputation off. of taking cases to trial rather than. settling. He prefers to challenge. government allegations headon. To put it. simply, this man is probably a tank in. the courtroom, but this is still.
probably one of his most challenging. cases yet. Now, side note, he has now. joined his wife Karen Agnif in defending. Luigi Manion, so he is officially on. that legal team. Really? Yes. And Luigi. Manion and Diddy are on the same prison. or jail. One netizen comments, uh, people have mixed feelings about all. this. You know, fact, people in America. are constitutionally allowed to have. representation, so you guys need to stop. being mad at defense attorneys. Another. comments, people trash attorneys until.
they need one. Then they'll find out the. true value. But another netisonen. argues, just because someone has a right. to an attorney does not obligate any. particular attorney to represent them. Agnif represents wealthy criminals. because it's a good payday. But another. netisonen has the opposite sentiment. Lawyers are going to lawyer. Believe it. or not, defending criminals is not a. crime. You seem to be arguing in bad. faith from a position of ignorance. They. argue back. I also believe everyone. deserves a defense attorney, but I also. believe defense attorneys that defend. obvious monsters like P. Diddy will gain. some bad monster baggage. If he really.
believes Diddy's innocent, maybe he. should defend him for free. Others just. say, "Seems like the Agnifilos are going. to have a very prosperous year. financially." Another netzen comments, I'm not shocked by this in the. slightest. He defends the worst of the. worst. Along with Mark Agnil, you have. Tenny Garagos. Tenny is She's so put. together. She walks in 4 inch heels. She's ready for the day. She's probably. most wellknown for posting a few Tik.
Toks last year, more or less defending. Diddy on social media, which you can. imagine social media and Tik Tok did not. like. All right, here we go again. Diddy. sued by a former bandmate. I'm his. lawyer and here's why you should care. Last night, some accuse her of being a. sellout. Others point out that in one. particular interview it appears that. she's wearing white nail polish. I will. say it looks a little more baby pink. And some just comment, you know what, no. shame in her game. A lot of people, regardless of her own success thus far, though, she's kind of known to be a Nepo. baby. But other people say, well, yeah,
she's a Nepo baby, but she still is. pretty accomplished in her own right. Others comment, I love that she's. following in the footsteps of. representing the scum of the earth just. like her father did. I mean, somebody's. got to do it. I do think that watching. her in the courtroom, she might be an. epo baby, and maybe you can tell by some. of her outfit choices or her bag. choices. She looks she looks really. rich. And we might all have our opinions. on people who defend Diddy. Yes. But the.
way she works, I think objectively she's. very good at what she does, but what do. I know? She seems very in control. She's. poised. She's sharp. Her father is. famous attorney Mark Garagos. He's known. for a lot of cases. He represented. Hunter Biden, Chris Brown, Michael. Jackson, the Menendez brothers. He. actually just took them on in 2023. So, he was I don't believe he was part of. the original trial. So, he is advocating. for a new trial. Then, he represented. Scott Peterson, who is actively seeking. to overturn his murder conviction, by. the way, and we might do another deep. dive on that. But Mark Garos has a whole.
podcast. So, he's not officially on. Diddy's legal team, but his daughter is. Yes. and he's a long-term legal. consultant for Diddy. He has a podcast. with TMZ called Two Angry Men, which got. him into a lot of trouble recently. He. goes on there and he calls the. prosecution team a quote sixpack of. white women. My understanding is you got. a six-pack of white women. To which. later, according to court transcripts, the judge tells Mr. Garos, "When you say.
things on a podcast like six women, all. white, my understanding is that you got. a sixpack of white women. That's not. that's something that you shouldn't that. no one should be saying as an officer of. the court and a member of the bar, right? To which Mark Geros responds, I. think when you've got a black man who's. being prosecuted and the client feels. like he's being targeted, it's an. observation. The judge doesn't seem to. be having it. I think this is. ridiculous. I think referring to the. prosecution in this case as a six-pack. of white women is outrageous. All right.
I and I understand what you're saying. about the cases and everything else, but. I think this is outrageous and this. would not be tolerated in any court from. any lawyer anywhere across the nation. and I'm going to be watching and I'm. going to be listening. All right, you. have one more listener for your. podcast. To which Mark Garos responds, "As long as you subscribe, I'm all for. it." The judge hits back, "You heard me. and you've heard what I've said. You. know I'll be. watching this. This judge is very. intense. This is the same honorable sir. that just looked like he biked to work.
This judge is very multifaceted. There's. a clip of him walking into the. courthouse and he's wearing athletic. wear. He has got his big headphones on. and it's very different from when he's. in the courtroom. He so far is a very. compassionate, fair, firm, incredibly. sharp judge. He's so sharp. His brain I. don't it runs on five times speed. really. And he's like a tank. He's like, "You guys have to tell me about lunch. cuz I'm just going to keep going." Yeah. He's a judge Subramanium. He is a former.
clerk for Justice RBG Ruth Bader. Ginsburg. He's the first Indian-American. to be the New York District Court judge. He was nominated to SDNY in 2022 by. former President Biden. And now the clip. of him walking into the courthouse for. work, it starts going semiviral. He. looks so young. He looks like an intern. And I say that in the coolest, most. respectful way. He's so multifaceted, your honor. The comments to him, however, are unhinged. They read, "He's. bumping to Cassie songs. He's listening. to Diddy's No Way Out. Some comment, "I.
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order. It's like I and I'm sure this is. going to change depending on what. they're talking about, but Mark, Tenny, Diddy, and then Brian Steel sits on the. left of Diddy for jury selection week. And according to the New Yorker and a. defense attorney from Atlanta, Brian. Steel's from Atlanta. According to a. defense attorney that worked with Brian. Steel for 30 years, he says Brian. doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke, he. can't believe anybody would. He won't. curse even in court. Even if he's. reading from a transcript, so when he's. cross-examining, he will say, "So and so. f word." The court will say, "You can. read that out loud." And he won't do it.
He only drinks water. His lunch is tofu. or salmon, maybe a salad, no bread. I've. never seen him eat out. He'll bring a. toothbrush to court. He exercises daily. before and after court, running, swimming, weights. He has three kids, a. wonderful wife who is also his law. partner. And they kind of idolize each. other. So, his wife's name is Colette. And just a side note, I'm going in depth. on all these attorneys and I will go in. depth later on the prosecution team as. well. They not entirely sure what the. word would be. They were less notable. during the jury selection. I'm sure once.
opening statements start. I mean, they're a very competent team. So, we'll. go in depth. I just want to paint the. picture because we're gonna be talking. about them for like two months. Yes, you. can Google pictures, but there is like a. certain energ like a synergy when. they're all in the same room. And I want. you be you to be able to picture it. every day and not go through the same. things because I think a lot of evidence. witness testimonies are going to come. up. We just won't have time for that. So, he always says in the phonetic. alphabet, C as in Colette, which is his. wife's name, right? Apparently, he's.
also superstitious. I haven't seen this. yet, but he will allegedly kiss a finger. or tap on a table anytime death is. mentioned. Apparently, he likes to call. his childhood friends mothers to tell. them thank you for giving birth to my. friend. Also, in 1992, Brian Steel was. assigned to the case of an illiterate. man who was charged with attempted. murder in Atlanta. He actually slept in. the jail with him because that man would. not he was distrustful of Brian Steel. and did not want to say anything. he was. not the killer or he was not the.
attempted murderer. So, he slept in that. jail room to try to get him to open up. and trust him. And Brian Steel. apparently once said, "A fair trial is. better than he's also said, I've. defended people who cut out eyes and ate. them. The system only works when the. accused have real representation. The. more challenging the case, the more. likely I'll take it. Do I like the. person I'm defending? That's the main. thing." The reporter for the New Yorker. asked Brian Steel if he would have. represented Epstein. He says, "I'd have. to understand better all the facts and. circumstances." See, I don't believe.
allegations. I go into believing the. person is innocent. So, he's saying it's. not that he doesn't believe the. allegations against Jeffrey Epstein, but. he doesn't believe in allegations, I. guess, until they're confirmed by the. court of law. I don't know. Netzens seem. to have more positive sentiments about. Brian Steel than many of the other. attorneys. More people are defending his. choice of defending Diddy. Others are. commenting uh or a depletion. Others. feel genuinely offended because they. think they were emotionally invested. into Brian Steel after the Young Thug.
trial. Some people comment, "I mean, he's a defense attorney. Defending the. accused, even bad people, and making. sure that the state proves their case is. his job, I guess." To which someone. comments, I don't think anybody's going. to hold it against him for not getting. Diddy out, right? Except maybe Diddy. Others say, "Dude's going to make so. much money. He's going to do pro bono. work at the local courthouse after. this." Other people say, "I mean, on an. emotional level, I'm disgusted that. anyone would sign up to defend Diddy, but outside my emotions, this is. necessary. State has to prove their.
case, and defense attorneys don't always. defend likable people. His work is. necessary, even if I want Diddy locked. up." The New Yorker describes him of. having a boy scoutish manner, and I. could see that. He seems really. interested in everything happening in. court. All the attorneys are. No one. looks like they're zoning out, but he's. sitting left of Diddy. And maybe this is. a natural thing. Maybe he's got a better. right hip and he likes to lean to the. right. Right. But being an attorney for. a case like this, it could be argued.
that maybe it's all intentional. He's. always leaning closer to Diddy. He's. always resting his right arm on the. right side of his chair closer to Diddy. cuz he's sitting on Diddy's left. He. also has um the energy is Mark and Tenny. are very serious. They're not overly. serious or aggressive or skeptical. They're just very in work mode. Brian. Steel, there's a lot of moments where he. seems he appears to be having a good. time sitting next to Diddy. Really? Yeah. They're passing notes. Brian Steel.
is smiling. And again, look, I only know. what I remember seeing from the other. side of the courtroom and my very. limited research about Diddy's humor, but Diddy is a big personality. I have. never read that he was known to be. someone who just makes others chuckle at. rapidly reoccurring frequencies. You. know, not that I know of, but Brian. Steele seems to genuinely enjoy I don't. know about genuine. He seems to be. enjoying his time sitting next to Diddy. in the courtroom. But does he really? We. don't know. Yeah. And he he has a lot of.
interesting things that he does. I will. say I I believe the tapping on the desk. when death comes up because a lot of his. movements are very repetitive. So he. wears reading glasses. If he is looking. at the screen, he'll have them on. If. he's not looking at the screen, he'll. take them off. And he kind of puts the. glasses tip into his mouth. He likes to. stick things into his mouth. Be it a. pen, be it his glasses. Mhm. He also has. a bright pink water bottle that he. drinks out of. And I'm like, I always. try to analyze, is this very intentional.
to come off very likable, or is this. genuinely just who this guy is? I don't. know. He uses I see him frequently use a. pink highlighter. He's got this stance. So, anytime there's a break, Diddy gets. Diddy's not like lingering and mingling. Diddy gets taken to the back because he. needs to be held. And there will be. breaks where people need to go use the. restroom. And the lawyers, they can come. out, the attorneys, they can come out. and they can talk, not to the members of. the press. They're on a gag order, but. they can talk to their colleagues, they. can talk to the prosecutors, they can.
talk to Diddy's friend, right? And they. all just seem relaxed. They seem like. the cool kids. But Brian Steel has his. go-to pose. His blazer jacket is. unbuttoned. He's got his hands on his. hips and he's got one hip popped out. It's like a very fun dad vibe. Yeah. I. don't know how much of it is so genuine. I did read in a separate article that. one judge said if Brian Steel cries in. court like he would believe it. He's. very genuine is the feeling. But I don't.
know. I think he's a fascinating. addition to the defense team. And I'm. not saying this like, oh, Brian Steel is. a good man. I don't know the man. He's a. good man and he's defending Diddy, so. that must mean something. That's not. what I'm saying. I think it's very smart. that he hired Brian Steel. Clearly, Brian Steel has extensive history with. defending against RICO charges, racketeering charges, which Diddy is. accused of. But I do feel like to some. degree, was he brought on for positive. press, positive associations, because he. was a huge meme during Young Thug? Mhm.
Along with Brian Steel, we have Nicole. West Morland, who also represented Young. Thug. Notably, she is a survivor of SA. She is the only black woman on his. defense team so far. And I would say if. netizens like Brian Steel, less people. know of Nicole West Morland, but more. people like her. A lot of people are. really amazed at how she overcame. trauma. She was essayed in the past and. she became this successful attorney. A. few netizens are concerned about the.
conversation around her being an essay. victim and her joining Diddy's defense. Some feel betrayed, writing, "She should. be ashamed of herself for defending. him." Then or another one that reads, "If she thinks mentioning her essay will. be a strategy to help him, she's wrong.". Which I feel like is all kind of icky, the commentary about her essay that is. by random internet people. And then you. have Alexandra Shapiro. She's got. shoulderlength blonde hair. It's a. little curly. She looks incredibly. athletic. If you watch those movies. about like New York City power women who.
do it all, that's the kind of energy she. gives me. She looks like she's an. attorney on the weekend. She works on. her novel, her fiction thriller novel, and then runs marathons. I don't know if. she actually does that. I don't know if. she runs marathons, but she is an. attorney. And she did release a fiction. thriller novel in 2022 called Presumed. Guilty. And as someone who has to lay. down after going out for approximately 1. hour, she seems like she's going to be. running circles. That's I we don't know. what she's going to be deployed to do. for this case, but she represented SPF.
She's described as a former big law. titan. She's also clerked for Ruth Gator. Binsburg, but not at the same time this. judge did. Others say call Alexandra. Shapiro if you can afford her. Additionally on the team there's Xavier. Donaldson, Anna Estavo, Jason Driscoll. They're all super successful attorneys, but they're less talked about. So. there's not many things that we can go. off of, at least not on the internet. So. I guess it'll be interesting to see what. they do during the trial. But all of. them do have a presence about them. They.
know what they're doing. They're. likable. They're the popular kids. One. legal expert describes the team as, "I'm. looking at the team, especially on the. first day of jury selection. It seems. like they've got people who are experts. in their own kind of general areas. I. think the team that Diddy has put. together are some heavy hitters in their. own rights and they're working together. as such. But maybe at least for this. past week, maybe the most important. person on Diddy's team is Linda Moreno, the jury consultant. She's here to help.
decide which jurors would be the most. advantageous for Diddy. And again, we. don't really get to like the prosecutor. We're going to cover it all. This is not. like me just talking about Diddy's team. It's just there there were not as many. notable moments and I think we won't. really understand what angle they're. going for until the opening statements. Now, one attorney completely unrelated. to all of this, slightly controversial, bizarrely comments. Generally speaking, I mean, there's all these other small. things you can do to find the right.
juror. The heavy rounded face, happylooking person is the most. desirable. The undesirable juror is. quite the slight underweight delicate. type. Features are going to be sharp and. fragile and he's got a very lean look. The athletic juror is hard to. categorize. Usually he is hard to. convince, but once he's convinced, he. will go all the way with you. As for. Linda Moreno, she's a juror expert on. anti-Muslim bias in American jury. trials. The trial of Norah Salman, the.
widow of the Pulse nightclub shooter. Linda Moreno got her acquitted. That was. the first complete acquitt of terrorism. charges in America since 9/11. Now, without getting too much into her cases, at least not in this moment, she does. have a fascinating way of picking. jurors. For example, in one case, she. was representing a client that was. charged with explosives. She says it's. all about picking a jury. So, in that. particular trial, one prospective juror. talked about how her brother had served. in Iraq and how she had grew up in. Vietnam during the Vietnam War. A lot of. people on the defense team wanted to get.
rid of this juror because you're dealing. with explosive charges. This is not This. is not good. There's going to be a lack. of understanding there. They don't want. her on the jury. But Linda Moreno wants. to keep her. She's saying she had a. clear, strong voice suggesting that she. thought about a lot of things. And. something she said really impressed me. You would have to live through the war. in Vietnam to understand why people did. what they did. She said, "We're keeping. her." She was firm. She said if. selected, she's going to have the. sensitivity to put herself in other.
people's shoes. That juror was one of. the five leading the jury to an acquitt. That is so fascinating. I feel like. nobody talks about like the deeper level. of what these people will determine. Oh, we're going to get into different um. they have different methods. What do you. mean? Oh, yeah. Just you wait. So, uh. one person describes Linda as having a. very gentle persistence that makes a. huge difference. She does seem gentle. She's an older woman now. She seems very.
slender. She had on giant pearls, a. pearl necklace. I mean, I think she must. have been very successful in her career. cuz those pearls were crazy. Yeah, they. looked beautiful. Definitely not as. strong as a presence, but maybe that's. intentional. Maybe she wants to fly. under the radar so she can analyze. jurors without them feeling like she's. analyzing them and they're focused on. the other attorneys, so she can just. watch. I don't know. They say that she. has a very laid-back politeness about. her. To which Linda Moreno once said, "I. had to be polite but not shy to get.
things done. I also had to pay close. attention to what people said." Another. person says, "Her instincts, her ability. to read people, I mean, it has a lot to. do with a lot of the great outcomes that. attorneys will have if she's on their. team." She was born a lawyer. No, I'm. serious. So, for her 12th birthday, Linda Moreno said that she received her. favorite movie, which was 12 Angry Men, which is about jury deliberations in a. murder case. Another colleague says if. anyone can figure out the jury, it's. going to be Linda. It is also believed. that she has never has more than one.
client at a time. A lot of attorneys. will have multiple clients at a time. She says that she likes to solely focus. on just one case and that's it. It is. believed, this is not public. information, so we don't know. It's. believed that someone like Linda Moreno. would charge Diddy around a million. dollars for her services to be a jury. consultant. Others argue it's probably. going to be a lot more than that. One. person who worked with Linda says, "What. strikes me about her is her complete. dedication to her clients, which. continues to this day." Now, this is not. something that Linda Moreno has said,
but from our research, because I was so. intrigued about like the different. models, some attorneys will use their. own model. It seems like most attorneys, at least from what I can gather on like. subreddits where attorneys are talking. about jury selection, they have their. own unique model that they tweak. depending on the charges of the case and. depending on that specific defendant, but they all have some sort of tailored. to them model that they like to. categorize potential jurors. So, these. are very basic, probably dumb models,
but I thought it was intriguing. So, one. model is the three categories of good. juror, poison juror, and go with the. flower juror. One attorney says, "Typically, it's fairly simple to spot. good jurors. You just say a joke and. they'll laugh or they'll give you eye. contact. They'll nod. They'll do the. smile. They're eagerly, you know, not. too eager, but just very happy to. fulfill their civic duty. They're doing. their best. Those are the good jurors. Then you have the poison jurors. These. are typically cynical. They get agitated.
easily and they like to be silent most. of the time. That's what's dangerous. because they fly under the radar. Then. you have go with the flowers. Quiet. Initially they have indifferent opinions. and are open to listening to the. evidence. So clearly in this model you. want to identify and remove the jurors. that are poison. Another model some. attorneys say they like to use is the. leadership authority model. Classifying. and dividing jurors based on their. influence and decision-making approach. So there's three categorizations or at. least this model does. Leaders. So.
jurors who influence others during. deliberations. They're going to be in. the back rooms like no this is guys. Look at this. They have strong. personalities. They can sway the. opinions of other jurors. And then you. have authoritarians. In criminal trials, authoritarians typically favor the. prosecutors. It's not a bad thing. It's. just who they are. So the defense are. going to want them out of the jury. Typically they prefer police. They they. like authority figures. They have high. respect for authority figures. They're. not sitting there like, "Oh, yeah, I. love the police." But it's just in them.
It's like an innate bias. Some people. just respond better to authority figures. than others. They often hold more. conservative views on crime and. punishment as well. Then you've got the. followers, jurors who tend to be. influenced by the stronger personalities. and opinions in the jury room. They. rarely take strong positions. independently. Some attorneys will even. further categorize and say, "You need a. fourth category in there. You need. negotiators. They are so important. These people, they're not really the. leaders, which are like, "No, I think. this." And then people are arguing.
They're the peacekeepers. They. facilitate negotiations. They keep peace. by analyzing and verbalizing the issues. Then there's another model that instead. of three, they've got four. classifications. You have. traditionalist. So these are jurors that. they like structure. They like. established institutions. They typically. naturally seem slightly unknowingly. probably even to themselves in favor of. the prosecutors. Then there's. experiencers. They're very practical. They're present focused. They like to. evaluate the evidence rather than debate.
abstract concepts of guilt and remorse. and principles and values. Then you have. the conceptualizers. They are thinkers. who are not naturally empathetic. They. seem less swayed by emotional appeals. And then lastly, you've got the. idealists. More empathetic, more focused. on human impact rather than the. evidence. They're way more receptive to. considering a defendant's circumstances. Typically, it's said defense attorneys. like influential leaders with a.
skepticism towards authority. They. exhibit natural leadership qualities, but they don't like institutional power. structures. As for the temperament-based. model, defense attorneys say they might. prefer idealist. They're empathydriven, especially if your client has mental. health. that's going to be coming into. it, a mental illness or some sort of. dire situation that they're trying to. argue is for the case. They're. empathydriven. And then people that are. super analytical, some defense attorneys. like them because the burden of proof is.
on the government. So these people, they. demand logical consistency in the. prosecutor's arguments. They have high. standard for the prosecutors. They. identify flaws in forensic evidence. trains, logical gaps in timeline. reconstructions, overreach and expert. testimony. They're very analytical. So, all of this makes sense. But according. to some attorneys, the absolute worst. worst worst worst type of juror that you. can have is a stealth juror. Stealth. jurors deliberately conceal bias to. infiltrate the jury. Usually, you can.
tell when they have inconsistencies in. their answers, their written. questionnaire, their responses versus. what they tell the judge during their. individual questioning, they don't. match. or sometimes they try to. overcompensate and really sell. themselves as being impartial. Usually. stealth jurors, they have different. motivations, financial gain, media. deals, book deals after the trial, ideological, maybe they have a personal. vendetta or just a lot of the times it's. thrillseeking, especially for. high-profile cases to just be like, I. was part of that. One attorney states,
"Stealth jurors pose catastrophic risk. through undetected bias injection. Their. influence persists throughout trial. stages, often discovered only through. post-verdict interviews. With that being. said, I'm clearly not knowledgeable. enough to know if any juror was a. potential stealth juror, but there were. some intriguing moments. Publishing. houses have what's called a slush. pile. It's like usually the big. publishing houses. There's five big. publishing houses in the US that. dominate 80% of the market. They have a. slush pile. It's a collection of. unsolicited manuscripts sent to them by.
people seeking to get their wonderful. book published and they're just it's a. slush. People will open up a manuscript, read one page, if they don't like it, it. goes into the slush pile. It's not. getting published because in the world. of publishing books, it's that. cutthroat. A female juror is sitting. next to the judge and she has a high. position at the publishing house, Simon. and Schustster. She says, "We publish. lots of books, 2,000 books a year, and. one book we are publishing in the fall. is by another hip-hop artist, and I know.
that that book contains some information. or some accusations. I haven't read the. book. I probably won't be working on the. book directly, but my office reviews all. the press releases that go out and I saw. the press release after I filled out. this questionnaire." So, she's asked. like, "Did you find out anything else. about the defendant or the case or. anything related after you filled out. this questionnaire?" Mhm. And what is. the book and what book is that? It's a. memoir by another artist whom I don't. know. I don't remember. I don't remember. the name of the author. I think it's. called Do You Believe Me Now or. something like that. And it's about his.
personal history and I know it contains. some accusations. A male artist. Yes. And you don't remember the name? No. She. states she doesn't remember the name, just the press release. She explains, "I. saw the press release because my office, we review all the press releases, our. different prints sent out to the media.". So that's just one of my roles is to. kind of vet all the press releases. All. right. Now, what did the press release. say? Just that the book is it was an. announcement that the book is publishing. in the fall and sort of different topics. it touches on and this was one of the.
topics and what did it say pertaining to. this case if you can remember in your. mind what did it say? I think the point. or what the press release is alluding to. is that this other artist has been. accusing the defendant here for a while. and hadn't been believed. That is what I. took from the press release. Now, do you. know anything else about the book? No. The judge asks her, considering she. works in a company that's publishing a. book written by someone making. accusations, would it cloud her view in. the case? She says, "No, no, I I also. would be very unlikely to read the book.
because I work on the executive team. I. don't really get that involved on. individual books." But it's tricky. because she's salaried. So, her bonus is. tied to the company performance, the. general company performance, which means. her bonus is tied to the performance of. all the thousands of books they publish, including the book written by I'll be. sure about Diddy. I think the list of. people who really do not like Diddy. would be comparable to a CVS receipt. times 10. The long list, but I do feel. like at the top it's going to be 50 cent.
and potentially, yeah, definitely. I'll. be sure. Now, just to recap, Diddy has. seven children. The first is Quincy. Brown, but Quincy is not Diddy's. biological son. He is King Porter and. I'll be Shore's biological child. It is. believed that Diddy adopted Quincy. However, recently, I'll be Shore states. in a documentary, there's no adoption. And if you haven't noticed, his last. name is still Brown. Take that how you. will. I have no idea which one is true. But there's Quincy, the oldest. Then. there's Justin Dior Combmes. He's Diddy. and Misa Hilton's son. Then there's.
Christian Combmes, Diddy and Kim. Porter's first biological child. together. Chance Combmes, Diddy and. Sarah Chapman's daughter. And then. Delila and Jesse Combmes, the twins, Diddy and Kim Porter's twin daughters. And in 2022, Diddy had another baby love. with Dana TR. So that baby's an infant. And all you need to remember at this. point is that Albure is Quincy's. biological dad. and Kim Porter, the. mother of many of Diddy's children. And. Quincy's mother, is a longtime partner. of Diddy, but also was married to. Albshore before dating Diddy. So Kim.
Porter and I'll be sure are married. They have Quincy. Kim Porter, they break. up. Kim Porter starts dating Diddy. They. go on to have multiple children together. and Diddy was very involved in Quincy's. life. Now, after Kim Porter mysteriously. passed away from pneumonia, that's how. people think she passed away, mysteriously. There were all sorts of. rumors flying around. Again, conspiracies. We don't know, right? That. maybe she didn't die from pneumonia. Maybe she was writing a tell- all book. about her relationship with Diddy and. she was done with Diddy and she wanted. to be set free. Again, conspiracies. But.
after she passes away, I'll be sure is. very suspicious of Diddy. He even slips. into a coma at one point and he kind of. insinuates that perhaps he Diddy had. something to do with him being in a. coma. I'll be sure went on to allege. that Kim Porter confided in him before. passing away and he says she started to. confide in me. What she did say is that. something's not right. Diddy's soul has. gone completely dark. Like he's just not. there. That's what he alleges was said. He does say allege that Kim Porter was.
writing a book, but nothing was done. about it saying someone got her passcode. to her phone and her computer and they. found out and she was writing what was. going on behind closed doors. The public. had no idea what was happening right in. front of everybody's eyes. But there. were a lot of people who turned a blind. eye. In the documentary Making of a Bad. Boy, the very documentary that Diddy is. suing NBC for $100 million in a. defamation lawsuit. In that documentary, Albi Shore says it was like 2 or 3 weeks. prior to her murder. Am I supposed to. say allegedly? Oh, he just straight up.
said murder. So, all that's to say, the. water is very deep between Diddy and Alb. Shore, and the potential juror works as. a highlevel executive at the publishing. house that's going to be releasing Albi. Shore's book. The blurb for the book. says, "Tell all in this inspiring. survivors memoir that reveals the untold. story of his neardeath health emergency. Shocking ties to Diddy, romance with. late Kim Porter days after Homeland. Security raided Shawn Comb's compounds.
in a federal sex trafficking. investigation." Alishore declared that. when people heard how he wound up in a. coma 2 years later, they were quote, "Really going to need to call Homeland. Security." So, the book is not out yet. No. M yeah. So she's saying that, okay, we're publishing this book. I don't know. anything about it. I don't care. I'm not. going to read it. Yeah. And I am. qualified. Yes. But I don't think she's. like overly eager. Okay. Either I mean, I think a lot of people can interpret it.
different ways. So I don't want to put. an interpretation out there because, you. know, but you could I guess some cynical. people could say she wants to maybe. write a book after. She's in publishing. Maybe she wants to write a book. Maybe. she wants the thrill. Maybe it's fun, right? Maybe she wants to take off work. No. Or just simply the fact that the. connection is crazy. Yes. Or maybe some. people are like, maybe she genuinely. doesn't care about any of these people. and like does in her head does not. understand why it relates. Yeah. Yeah. She's like, I don't care about any of.
these people, so obviously I can be. unbiased. Mhm. But the blurb is kind of. crazy. The blurb continues, "People. called him crazy. Now back from the. brink of death, he reclaims his power. and truth in the in this incredible. memoir about finding inner peace despite. countless attempts to break him. The. last lines of the blurb breed, I'll be. sure is one of the few still living to. tell the whole story, which I'm not. insinuating anything, but that just. feels like a bad sentence to even utter. into existence whilst publishing a. reportedly explosive memoir which is.
going to be titled, "Do you believe me. now?". It just feels like an unnecessary. potential jinxing. Regardless of how one. feels about Alb Shore or the death of. Kim Porter or Diddy, it probably would. not provide Diddy a fair trial if this. juror were on the jury. Why do we care. if Diddy gets a fair trial? Because if. he doesn't get a fair trial, the. conviction could be overturned if there. is one. And everyone should be entitled. to a fair trial. So, yes, justice. But. also, it's like if you genuinely want. justice, you need a fair trial. Yeah,
she is ultimately excluded from the. jury. Now, please keep in mind anything. I say in the entirety of this episode, especially right now, is a personal. opinion. I've had a lot of personal. opinions, great ones and some bad ones. But whatever I say does not mean, oh, this action means he's doing this. Like, for example, there will be some days. where I feel incredibly insecure about. the way that I look and I start. spiraling and maybe in a video I touch. my hair because I feel ugly. But someone. will comment, "Look at this narcissist. She's obsessed with herself." It's like.
a very different interpretation. Maybe. it's true, maybe it's not true. So, just. take it like that. I don't know. This is. just what I saw and how I personally. interpreted what I saw visually with my. eyeballs. With that being said, I. personally felt like Diddy was kind of. an iPad kid during moments of the trial. He was given an iPad by his attorneys to. look at specifically related to the. case. He It's just interesting. He has. reading glasses and he will put them on. kind of randomly. I I don't know if.
there's a method to it. I don't know, maybe he is reading something and I just. can't see it because he's further away. But it just seemed a little random. Sometimes they'd be on, sometimes they'd. be off. So the first day the researchers. were like, they'd be on and then they'd. be off at random times to the point. where we're like, we don't even know if. there's a prescription in these, if. these are even reading glasses. And then. they he would always put them on the. desk, put them back on, put them on the. desk, put them back on. It was a very. feeling is how they felt. It was do I. feel like I want to put my glasses on? And then the second day he started. putting putting them up on the top of. his head and then putting them down,
putting them at the top. Maybe we're. overanalyzing absolutely nothing. But. the way that Brian Steel would kind of. tippy tap on the iPad next to him gave. iPad Kid. There's this fascinating. moment on day one of trial. The very. first day that jury selection begins, right before the jurors come in, at this. point it's just the judge, the court. personnel, defense team, the prosecutors. and members of the press. The jurors are. about to walk in that door. My. researcher was like, "Brian Steel. reaches over, boop bops on the iPad.".
Boop bop. Front camera turns on and they. just see Diddy on the iPad cuz it's the. camera. The front camera is turning on. like a mirror and he's wearing his. reading glasses. And then Diddy proceeds. to lift the iPad up four or five inches. and looks at himself before putting it. down. There's nothing deep about it. I'm. sure he's just trying to make sure. nothing's on his face for when the. jurors actually come in. But it it's a. they said it was so weird. It's a. fascinating visual. Yeah. Like Brian. Steel is older than Diddy, but he's over.
there boop bumping on the iPad for. Diddy. It it was weird. Or maybe And. then more cynically, I guess you could. say maybe this is all a thing. Make. Diddy seem like a. clueless I don't know what's going on. Can you help me? M I'm kind of lost and. all these powerful attorneys know so. much diminish some of his power. I don't. know in another part this was um I saw. this Brian Steel is putting on his. blazer. So sometimes he would just be in.
his uh dress shirt and then he's putting. on his blazer and there's a little fuss. about it and Diddy is just all hands on. board helping him put his blazer on with. both hands. So, he's got his hand on the. back of the collar for Brian Steel. His. left hand is on Brian Steel's like neck. area, and then his right hand is. reaching over around Brian Steele's neck. in the front to fix the collar. Now, can. I just say something? I've never seen a. man have trouble putting on a suit. blazer. I don't even think that my own. tailor tailoring a shirt would be this.
It was a It was a lot. It wasn't even. just like, "Let me fix your collar.". Yeah. Like, blazer is a pretty easy. collar fix. Yeah. Yeah, that's. interesting. It just was a lot of. effort. Just like a lot of So, it does. Okay, I see what you mean. Like, it does. seem like they're have a very close. relationship from the visual. This is my. speculation. I don't know if it's true. I don't know what goes on in other. people's minds. I feel like this is a. thing that happens during trials. I.
think both of them are aware of what. makes the defendant look good, and they. both want the same outcome. and they. maybe they haven't had a conversation. about it, but it seems like they both. kind of play into it is the feeling I. guess. So are are was there jurors or is. it just the press? I think at this point. there were no jur jurors when he was. putting on his Okay. Okay. But even for. the media it's like it's a visual that. seems very maybe somewhat positive. Yeah. Maybe he's like helpful fixing.
Brian Steel's it just I've I guess I've. never seen someone need help fixing. their suit blazer. Yeah. Cuz I, you. know, people put on suit blazers all the. time on and off. Yeah. And there is this. one yawn where Diddy is standing up. The. court had to rise and he yawns, but he. doesn't cover his mouth. So for like a. fraction of a second, it just looks like. he's silently screaming. And that was. really Yeah. Another fascinating part. that I noticed, and again, this could be. coincidence. I could be looking too deep. into things. I could have a personal. bias that makes me interpret these.
movements as something that it is. completely not. It's an eyewitness. testimony. It's questionable, especially. in my brain after 8 hours of sitting in. there. But there's this moment where I. recall seeing the sketch artist. Mhm. She is in the first row diagonal from. Diddy behind. Mhm. And we're all the way. behind her. Now, she has one of those. binoculars that she wears. It's strapped. to her head like a brain surgeon. She's. wearing that. And she's midstroke with. her charcoal. And Diddy, from my. perspective, looks like he briefly.
glances back. He doesn't shift. He. doesn't turn. He just kind of sees in. his peripheral. I think he sees in his. peripheral. Maybe he doesn't see her, but this is all coincidence. Maybe I'm. hallucinating, but it's almost like. immediately after he turns back to face. the front, he takes off his reading. glasses and his shoulders roll back and. he sits a tiny bit straighter. It's not. super obvious. It's not like suddenly. his back is erect and his posture is 10. out of 10. But it did seem a little. coincidental. like let me sit better for this.
portrait. Yes. Like make sure that they. pay me better. Yeah. Type of energy. Yes. Now other moments with jurors that. were maybe slightly uncomfortable in the. courtroom. I'm just going to pull them. out rapid fire. One juror is asked about. in response to question 13. You. indicated that you had a prior criminal. issue, which is that you were caught. shoplifting at the age of 16. How old. are you now? 30. 30. Okay. And you say. you were charged a fine. And just. generally speaking, what happened? M I.
was at Universal Studios caught by. security taking an item. I think I was. in Harry Potter World. So they uh took. me to the back and uh just kind of like. put me through all the process and then. I was mailed a fine. I got a lawyer. My. lawyer handled everything. So, I was uh. it was just a fine and they put against. me and I was um prohibited from going. back to the park for about a year. And. what is it? What did you take? A. wand. Okay. So, let's go to question 29.
The question is, have you communicated. to others or posted your opinion on. social media or online or liked any. social media posts about Mr. Combmes? And you initially wrote no and then you. changed your answer to unsure. Yeah. So, what did you like? Um, I think it was. the comedian. They made a joke because I. guess when they went to his house, they. found a bunch of baby oil. I remember. liking it because I thought it was. funny. That was really it. So, there was. a joke about baby oil and you said you. liked that comment. Yeah. What was the.
reason why you liked that comment? It. was funny in my opinion. So, I liked the. video because I thought it was funny. Do. you remember who the comedian was? Not. off the top of my head. Another juror. walks in and she says that her musical. interests are rock, hiphop, and as well. as quote, "I'm actively watching the. concert of the group called BTS or. Pangan Boys." There was nothing else. notable. I just wanted to say that. Now, the next year walks in and he looks, from my opinion, kind of like a. fraternity boy, but slightly sleazier. And I say that with respect. Like, this.
is um visually speaking because I don't. know this man. He looks like the type of. guy that would graduate college and 10. years later still heavily rep his. college fraternity merchandise and want. to talk about how he was the coolest big. to his little and still go indepth about. rush week stories. That's the personal. opinion vibe I get from him. He asks the. judge a question. So number 11, I wasn't. sure about allegations concerning. distribution and use of illegal drugs. So I smoke marijuana um personally for.
recreational use. Okay. And I'm not sure. if that counts. So, the question is. asking, "Are you okay? Can you be. unbiased if we talk about illegal drug. usage?" Mhm. And he was like, "Well, I. smoke." Mhm. And there's a slight giggle. in the courtroom. And the judge tells. him, "Well, I wasn't asking about your. use." Okay. But are you going to have. any issues if there are allegations in. this case about the distribution and use. of drugs? Is that going to make you. biased? No. No. The juror, to his very.
fine credit, he's incredibly honest, which I think is admirable. He basically. states that he might have affected. judgment though if he's on the jury. I. use marijuana for personal recreational. use, which might affect my judgment in. uh making the right decision. Meaning. that well, are you able to not use. marijuana during this trial? I'm going. to order you not to use marijuana during. this trial. Are you going to be able to. follow that instruction? Yes. And so if I give you that instruction. and you follow it, you're not going to.
be having an issue. Correct. Yeah. When. was the last time you used marijuana? Last. night. Okay. How often do you use it per. day? Once a day. And I said that I would. perhaps order you not to use marijuana. during the trial because you said it. might affect your judgment. Would that. be hard for you given how often you use. it? Yes, it would be. Yep. He was. eventually excused for cause. What?
Then the next juror walks in, and these. are not in chronological order, but the. door opens, the juror walks in, and he. appears to be a middle-aged white man. But if he were Korean, this is a crazy. statement. If he were Korean, I could. see him kimchi squatting behind a. convenience store and eating a roll of. Kimpa. That's the energy he gives me. Not smoking a cigarette because he's got. children and a wife and kids that don't. like the smell. That's the aura he gives. me in my personal brain. He says, "I. admittedly don't read pop culture news.
My wife makes fun of me for that. I have. heard a few headlines, few accusations, just as a father of two young kids. You. know, some of the accusations are. troubling." The judge asks if he's going. to be able to not have discussions about. this case with his wife who is on social. media a lot. He says, "Absolutely.". Okay. So then, just on the form, why did. you say that you had a reservation or. concern about whether you're going to be. able to follow these instructions? my. wife, she's a, you know, she watches. Sunset, TMZ. Like, that's what she. loves. And so, I assume this case is. going to be all over that since she's a.
follower of that type of content, and. that is a little concerning to me. But. he does say she's a fan. She does her. own thing. I'm not around. I'm not going. to go looking at her phone. If I can. tell her topics that she cannot show me, she will listen to that. Has your wife. spoken to you about this case or this. defendant? Uh, I guess a few months ago. Okay. What was the conversation? Um, oh. my god, P. Diddy. These terrible. parties. He's in trouble. Did he do it? He did it. Did he do it? No freaking.
way. And he he was pretty okay. So, a. lot of the jurors, you can tell they're. they're very soft spoken into the mic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, "OMG, how. far are they from Diddy?" Like, in terms. of distance, two rows of desk, three. rows of desks. It's two rows of desk. Yeah. Like three rows of desk and then. Diddy. So, like super close. Yes. Wow. Yeah. And they have to walk. So there's. two doors. One Diddy comes out of the. other one the jurors come out of. And he. has to walk. They have to walk by Diddy. to sit next to the judge and then walk.
out right in front. Did your wife. express a view, you know, her own. opinion about this case? No. No. No. No. And did you express an opinion about. this. case? Oh my god, that's a pretty big. accusation. He was excused from the. case. The next juror walks up to the. stand. He reminds me, and this is. personal, but he gives me bowling dad. vibes. Like this man in my alternate. universe in my head. I feel like he owns. a collection of bowling balls and he.
bowls on the weekends. Is there anyone. who doesn't know Diddy from this all all. these people or It doesn't appear that. So most of them they all know what's. going on. Yes. Okay. Yeah. And so he. says he's unsure if he can be fair and. impartial because the lifestyle bias, you know, and when he's asked to. elaborate further, he says, "Oh, just. the reputation that might be someone in. that field." What do you mean by that? What field are you referring to? The. music LA lifestyle. It's very much. different than the way I was brought up.
What's your perception of how it was. different? Fast and. loose. He also says that he saw the. video of Diddy and Cassie in the hotel. However, even though he saw it, he can. be unbiased. He describes it as, "Well, you can't unring a bell." What does that. mean? You can't unring the bell. I can't. unhear something that I've heard, but I. can separate that from what's presented. here. He does appear to be pretty honest. in his answers. Like, even it seems like. he's very genuine. Like, he's not trying. to be like, "Yeah, no, I'm unbiased." It. seems like he's being very thoughtful.
If I'm not mistaken, the defense did not. want him on the jury. So after they. leave, after every juror leaves in the. individual questioning, the defense and. the prosecutors have a moment to bring. up an application for striking that jury. and then the judge will either strike. them or hold off or bring them back in. for further questioning or they'll be. like, "As of right now, no." The defense. did try to strike him. They really did. not like the can't unring the bell. comment. And was he excused? He was not.
Oh, yes. Okay. because I think he was. being honest. I mean, there's no one. that hasn't seen something about Diddy. A lot of jurors were excused for either. lack of English comprehension or just. financial hardship due to the schedule. It's 8 weeks. It's 8 weeks. You have to. take off work if you work by commission, if you have your own business. I mean, that's that's going to run you into. bankruptcy. So, a lot of them were. excused for that. Now, this judge is. asking a female juror about her ability. to take off work. He asks, "And where do.
you work?". HBO. HBO. And what do you do for HBO? I'm a photo producer, which side note, photo producer means she helps with. hiring, securing the location, getting. the actors to there, getting the right. attire, costumes, getting catering, hiring the photographer, and then they. take the pictures for the advertisements. that we see on the billboards. She later. states that she recently worked with The. Last of Us, White Lotus Thailand, the. one Lisa is on. And the judge asks her, "Okay, and in the course of working for. HBO, have you done any work or heard.
have there been projects related to any. allegations in this case?" No. Later, the judge asks her, "Okay, now what have. you heard or read about this case prior. to today?" Just because I work in. entertainment, I'm somewhat familiar. I've seen the video. I've read a few. headlines and articles, but I haven't. done like a deep dive into it. Has. anything been discussed in your presence. at HBO concerning Mr. Combmes? Not. officially, but I would say yes in. hallway water cooler talk. What was the.
water cooler talk? Just that there's a. case and he was arrested and he's in. jail. Later, when the juror leaves the. courtroom, I mean, Mark is on this. Okay, the defense, they don't want her. on the jury. Really? He says there are. two areas of concern. HBO has a. documentary, a very negative documentary. about Mr. Combmes in the context of this. case. Now, she didn't say she knew. anything about it, you know, and we have. to accept her answers, I suppose. And. so, that just gives us great concern. I. mean, she works for a company that. actually put out a documentary that, you.
know, I think objectively speaking is a. very negative documentary. The judge. asks the defense, "What is the. documentary?" Mark looks over at Tenny. She looks at him. Diddy leans behind. Tenny and gets Mark to lean down and. whispers to him. And Mark stands up. straight again. It's called The Fall of. Diddy. Are you saying Diddy told them the name? Yeah. So, okay. So, they know the the. documentary. They don't know the name. Diddy. Lean in and say the fall of. Diddy. The Fall of Diddy. Yeah. She was.
um she's not excused that day. She was. excused the next day. Now, there are lots of overlap in this. case. It's not even just overlap of. everyone has seen some news or some. articles, some headlines, but there's a. lot of personal overlaps as well. One. juror walks in and they are enrolled at. City College, which if we're trying to. make everything a connection, I guess. that would be a connection to the City. College crowd crush. One juror walks.
into the courtroom. He tells the judge, "I got to change one of my answers to. the questions." He says, "My wife, turns. out probably about 30 years ago, served. as a lawyer in a case. I don't even. remember. I think she was involved in. taking depositions and it was a case. that involved Mr. Combmes." So, she was. a lawyer for someone involved in the. City College crowd crush incident. It was a case involving Do you know how. or what the the judge is asking the. juror? My understanding is that Mr. Combmes was a promoter of a concert and.
something went wrong. there was a riot. or you know a stampede at the door and. some people lost their lives and there. was you know discussion about you know. his liability I believe the judge later. asks all right and has she ever. expressed to you any negative opinions. about Mr. combs that you can remember at. this point 30 years later, you know, in. taking the depositions and just. research, she, you know, did not have a. positive opinion of him. And what's. crazier is he didn't even tell his wife. that he was serving on the jury for. Diddy's case. He says he went home and.
his wife was like, "Hey, what case did. you are you doing jury duty for?" And I. didn't tell her, but he says, you know, this case was all over the news, though, and it's a big case. The day after that. he's like my wife came back and her. colleague the wife of this colleague is. also in the jury pool and I was like hey. I saw you know the person you work with. she comes up to her husband and is like. hey I saw so wife colleagueu's partner. yes is also in the and they just told. that is crazy so then the judge is like.
okay got it so then your wife came to. you and said I was in this case a long. time ago and then he's like yeah when I. filled out the questionnaire I had no. recollection of it I would not want her. participation to come out at some point. in the future and me not have revealed. it. No, you you did absolutely the right. thing. So, he's saying that was 30 years. ago. I didn't even think about it. Yeah. And then, you know, my wife was like, "Hey, my colleague's wife saw you at. jury duty for the diddy case. I you. what?" Yeah. He was excused. And then.
there's just a lot of other random, slightly awkward, interesting moments. Another overlap. Um, when one juror. walks in, he instantly is like they're. giggling. The judge and the juror are. giggling. They used to work together at. a massive law firm. What? So, he was. excused. And another juror, there's a. very awkward moment where he goes up and. he is questioned and he states that his. occupation is working at MDC Brooklyn, the very jail that Diddy is being held. at. So any of these like personal.
connections between anybody is a reason. for them to be excused typically, but it. it really depends on how strong the. connection is. I did notice something. and I don't know if it's a coincidence. It could be a coincidence, but a lot of. the jurors came up onto the stand and. one of the pieces of media that they say. they saw before being called to jury. duty is the hotel footage of Diddy and. Cassie. And sometimes they will describe. it. Sometimes the judge will read out. what they wrote about the hotel footage. in their questionnaire, but if it's.
brought up with a little more. description, Diddy appears to me to be. shaking his head no slightly. Mhm. It. happened multiple times and every time. the hotel footage came up, I would be. locked in. I would be staring at Diddy. and often again he would just kind of. shake his head no. So one jurors asked, "Do you remember what that still image. was that you were referring to?" So he. just saw like a screenshot of it. It. seemed to have been in a hotel hallway. and the still image was of a woman on. the floor and can I say Mr. Combmes.
standing. Now the judge points out in. the questionnaire she wrote that it. could be damning evidence and she said I. guess I guess I don't know how else to. say it. It didn't seem to be what uh a. person would want to be experiencing. I. don't know how else to phrase it. Another juror describes the hotel. footage and this is when they're. questioned a video in the hallway that. was um dragging a person uh over the. hallway and did he would kind of shake. his head? No. Later the same juror. states they saw quote parties and there.
were like headlines in the news parties. and there were different situations with. people who were very uncomfortable after. certain periods of time and they feel. like they were drugged. put something in. their drinks and then they remember and. then there were situations that people. were abused that they were taken. advantage of. One juror describes the. hotel video as I saw the video of Mr. Combmes and this person. I seen a video. of Mr. Combmes and it seems like this. person was in the video and harm was. being done to her in the video. Another. says the defendant was shown I don't.
know how to describe I think he was um. was outside an elevator in a common. hallway of a hotel. I think he just had. on a towel or bathrobe on and there was. a woman. He went to get her. She ended. up on the ground. Wow. Another juror described seeing the. hotel footage as quote, "Pretty much in. my opinion, mostly everybody saw the. video of the defendant and I believe it. was his ex-girlfriend in the hallway of. the hotel." Another juror responds about. what they saw prior to this. Again, the. hotel footage. Yeah, it's what I.
remember from the news. And seeing those. reports, did that lead you to form an. opinion as to Mr. Combs his guilt or. innocence? No, it didn't lead me to form. an opinion. I was basically just. watching it and was taken back or. shocked. And why were you taken it back? Because it was just seeing it was a tad. disturbing. I I don't I didn't have all. the facts. I don't know. The scene. itself was unfortunate. That's what I. meant. Other notably awkward moments, which again, this might just be my. perception of things. The judge will cuz. the judge has to verify. It's not like.
the judge is doing this intentionally. He's doing everything to the letter of. the law. He's reading out some of the. juror's responses to the questionnaires. It feels like when you talk bad about. someone and then it gets repeated in. front of them. The judge is reading, "You said that P. Diddy has a lot of. money to use at his discretion, possibly. by his way out of jail." What did you. mean by that? I mean, I don't know how. else to explain that. On the same note, another instance the judge reads out.
another part of the questionnaire of. another juror and uh reads out the. repeating playing of the hotel video of. incidents above and media gives the. appearance of an angry hostile person. who is entitled. So judge is reading. these out loud and it's just like can. you clarify in front of Diddy and do you. feel like they're I feel like Okay, so I. was trying to watch both. Mhm. Diddy's. actually more dead pan during these. moments. It's usually the hotel. footage that seems to get a little.
headshake. No, it gets something out of. him. Yeah. Otherwise, people are like, "Yeah, I saw the headlines. I saw this.". My wife was like, "Did he do it? Did he. not? OMG." Not much. It's kind of just. dead pan. But I will say the jurors look. slightly uncomfortable. Yeah. Now, speaking with another juror, the judge. reads, "Just to remind you the question. about have you read, seen, or heard. anything about this case?" And the last. sentence here is, well, I'll just read. the entire answer. You said, I know. through the media that Shawn Combmes is. accused of illegal activities related to. human trafficking and extortion. I.
understand that a producer of his. alleges that Mr. Combmes may have forced. him into sexual relations that were. non-consensual and that Mr. Combmes was. also accused of engaging in sex with. underage participants against their. will. Where did you get that information. with this one? Did he I perceived a. little a little headshake? No. Yeah, I do think that it was been a very. depressing week. Um I I know a lot of. news headlines were pointing it out, but. the amount of women and even men that.
were on the stand for further. questioning now because Diddy is accused. of essay crimes, they have to ask like, "Have you been essayed?" Because it. could form a bias that they need to at. least know about. It doesn't. automatically disqualify someone, but. it's just something that they need to. know. Mhm. The amount of people that. have been essayed in their lifetime, it. it just is like one after another after. another. One older juror states, the. situation was a dentist that my parents.
had gone to and they didn't pay them and. they ended up sending me there and I. ended up working for them for that. It. was a very blurry authority versus a. person who is not paying for their. dental bill. I developed confusion about. obligations, about authority, which you. know, I went to a lot of I guess you. could call it therapy about it to become. more alert and more aware of boundaries. around these types of. situations. She was molested by the. dentist. This happened in the ' 70s. Another juror reports that they were.
essayed by family members when they were. like 8 years old. Another was essayed. during college by a neighbor. Another. their daughter was essayed. Another was. um there was attempted essay by a random. person on the street. And the most. depressing part of it is not even just. the sheer amount of people that have. those life traumatic life experiences is. the fact that a lot of them do report. that they didn't go to the police about. it. I mean, they don't go further into. it, but you can imagine it's just what.
are the police going to do? That's the. feeling. One Marine vet, he came out. He. looked like a sports dad. So, I was. trying to understand the I guess the. vibe, such a weird word, of each juror. as they came out for individual. questioning. He looked like a sports. dad. He looked kind of buff. He's a. Marine veteran. His wife was also in the. Marines. And he tells the judge, "My. wife was a uniformed victim advocate in. the Marine Corps in South Carolina. She's in the Marine Corps. We both.
were." and he admits, "Yes, potentially. I would be biased in this towards an. alleged. victim." And the judge excuses him for. cause, thanks him for his service, and. thanks him for being there. But it was a. very interesting moment of having a very. buff statured guy walk up there, a. Marine vet, and in front of Diddy say, "Yeah, I'm going to be biased towards. the victim." There were a lot of people. who have had experiences with DV. One.
juror states that their sister was a. victim of DV. Another had friends that. were. ultimately deceased from DV. So, it's. just. like back to back to back. Another. juror, she seemed, at least in my. opinion, traumatized by even having to. answer the jury duty questionnaire. She. was asked why she wrote no on the. questionnaire about seeing Diddy on TV. and then later took it back and said, "I. actually did see him." And she said,
"Because I'd been through all those. things before, so I didn't I didn't want. to talk about it." You said that you had. been through those things. What do you. mean? What I mean is I I've been. traumatized. It was in a war. It was a. lot of things. She was older. Um it was. lots of things. We went through this. when I was there. She was excused. So, a. lot of the testimonies were just not. testimonies, but questionings were. incredibly raw and difficult to get. through. There were a lot of medical. concerns. a lot of people that were very. sick. Uh, one woman, she has ocular.
migraines, so she needs to take breaks, put her hands above her eyes, and rest. for her vision to come back. Another. juror has seven stints in their heart. and has to take medications that would. make it nearly impossible for them to. come here and serve on the jury every. day. And I think the very jolting part. about watching and listening to the jury. selection questions is I feel like we. meet a lot of people in our daily lives, but to have everyone's life encapsulated. in a 10-minute like they go through. their most traumatic moments. They. explain their job, their occupation.
They talk about other random facts like. my cousin is a law enforcement officer. I have a degree in psychology. So it. feels like you get a very deep snapshot. not just of like the pretty resume. Yeah, but like all of the aspects of. what makes someone who they are in 10. minutes and it also is just so. depressing after depressing after. depressing. Yeah. And I think that's why. this next incident became I guess a more. funny moment in court. Although I don't.
think it's funny. I think it just. everything is so depressing. A slightly. older woman walks into the courtroom, a. juror. And at least from my impression. from the other side of the courtroom, she appears very timid in her body. language. Like how old is she? 50 60. Okay. She sits down next to the. judge. She's one of the dozens of jurors. that's going to be questioned. The judge. says, "In question 9B, the question was, would you be able to listen to and. discuss matters of a sexual nature with. fellow jurors? And your answer to that. was no, and you gave a reason for it. And is it okay if I ask you about that.
while you're sitting here?" Sure. Her. voice is like, "Sure." Like kind of. shaky. What was the reason for your no. answer? I'm a very shakes again. It. sounds like her voice is breaking. I'm a. very sensitive person and I could faint. or black out. When I was in junior high. school during the health education. class, the teacher brought up, well, it. shouldn't have been, but they brought up. and I actually fainted. And the. teacher and everybody surrounded me and. said, "What's going on here?" And I was.
so embarrassed. I said I fell asleep. when I didn't. And so I feel that if I. were to come into mental contact with. something similar, I wouldn't be able to. speak coherently and I wouldn't be a. good juror. she is excused. I think that. was a very notable moment in the. courtroom. An older woman was asked. about how she responded to a question if. she could be fair and impartial. And she. says that she does have a level of. anxiety about the idea of being on the. jury. She says it's very unfamiliar. situation. I guess it's not very. familiar. It's unfamiliar. It's an.
unfamiliar environment and I'm not used. to being listened to intently and to. having my answers matter very much. Wow. In question nine, you were asked if. there is anything in the nature of. evidence or graphic videos and. photographs, including videos of. physical violence, that would make it. difficult for you to be fair and. impartial. You said no, but you. answered, "I cannot predict my response. and what the images will be." What did. you mean by that? I've seen people die. in front of me, like I watched somebody. get run over by a train. There have been. a few other situations in my life. I've.
seen horrible things actually happen. And I was okay with it. Um, not I mean, not okay with it, but it didn't become a. second problem. when something utterly. horrible happens in front of me, I tend. to shut down or just kind of call 911 or. anything like that. But I guess in a. video, it's detached. So, she's saying. like she's not 100% confident, but she. assumes she'd be fine. Another juror. raises concerns. You know, the only. thing that I was um and put in the prior. question is that to me, you have the.
life of somebody on your hands. So, to. me, that is a that's a very difficult. part. Yeah. I don't know. I think I can. do it, but it's something that I have to. be very sure that that person, you know, you I will say that the media is. reporting a lot of jurors just didn't. want to be there and didn't want to. serve. I actually didn't necessarily get. that being in the courtroom. I think the. transcripts do kind of read that way. I'm sure a ton of them, a lot of them. just looked annoyed to be in jury duty, but they didn't. It wasn't like they.
were coming up with a million excuses to. try and leave. M they just seemed kind. of like I don't know if I can do 8 weeks. because I'm going to lose my job. I'm. going to have financial hardship like I. can't. A lot of people seemed relatively. neutral if not like oh yeah I mean I. guess jury duty right? But there was one. juror where I felt I'm like I don't. think this woman wants to be here at. all. She walks in and she tells the. judge she has a new scheduling conflict. Her son is graduating high school and. she wants to be there. It's the second. week of June. Trial is supposed to go. into July. The judge starts asking her,
"What day?" I don't recall. On a Friday, I don't remember. Okay. What time of day. is it? Uh, it starts, I think, around 10. or 12. And you don't know the day. Like, it's a Wednesday, Thursday, I don't. recall. Which week is it? I can't say. I. don't remember. Okay. Well, you clearly. thought about this after you did your. questionnaire, but you didn't go look to. see what the date was or what the time. was or any of the details of the event. Well, I rely on my son to tell me these. things, and he didn't yet. He says he. didn't know it himself yet, but I.
remember when my first one was. graduating, it was around this time. All. right. Where does your son go to school? Like, where is it? In the city. It's in. Westchester. They move on and the judge. asks her if there's anything else she. needs to change from her questionnaire. She says, "Um, I think there was. I. don't um" So, there were questions about. violence and graphic. Yes. Images and. stuff like that. So, I don't think I can. do that. Why? I'm battling depression. right now and I don't think that's going. to help in my recovery. which side note. this is not me insinuating like I think. that's a very real thing but then the.
next part the judge says all right so in. your questionnaire why did you say that. you did not have a problem looking at. that type of material I don't I was. overwhelmed I didn't realize I didn't. know about the case at all right. anything further that you wanted to. change in your questionnaire um I didn't. know about the case then I now I do what. did you see uh it was um it was music it. was a song that I heard about the case. how did you come upon hearing this song. it It was on like um Russian comedy. channel. She does get excused for cause.
I did find the Russian comedy channel. Wait, what? It's just like a SNL skit. vibe of P. Diddy. Oh. And so she's like, "Yeah, I saw that now." Oh, it did seem. like she wanted to get out of it. Maybe. she wanted to get out at least to me. Maybe she wanted to get out of it. because it's too much too intense. mentally and she was just looking for. any reason. I think that could be the. case. Okay. Okay. One thing that I do. think is very interesting and I don't. even think there is any sort of measure. that we'll have at the end of the trial.
for this. There were moments and I was. talking to my researchers so it's not. just me. There were moments where it. it's like in the back of your mind right. I felt like I made eye contact with. Diddy and of course like there's other. things I'm thinking about. I'm taking my. notes but then in the back of my mind. like once or twice it's like oh yeah. this guy is famous. Like it's just it's. it's just like a thing like because you. see him on TV, you see him on screens, you hear people talk about him and then. it's a reminder of like, oh, this is the.
same person in the courtroom. These are. the same people right now. I don't know. I I think it would be interesting to. psychologically study the jurors for. that. I don't think they can, but you. get what I'm saying of during individual. questioning of the jurors, there are so. many times where it looks like Diddy is. trying so hard to connect with them. Maybe he just likes to connect with. people. Maybe it's for his. case. He would seemingly sympathetically. nod his head as jurors talk about. hardships that they go through. Or if a.
juror has an awkwardly cute or funny. moment, he would sometimes smile. I. mean, it's not like a big toothy grin, but he's smiling. So, for example, one. juror's asked if she knows any people on. the people's and places list, and she. says, "I don't, but I wish I did." And. he's smiling at her. Can you explain the. people and places list? Okay, so there. are a list of like over a hundred people. and places that the jurors, this is not. public information, everyone on that. list, the jurors have to go through and. they have to tell the judge if they. personally know any people or places on.
these lists. I'm going to go into who. they are. When the group questioning. takes place, at least on the second day. of jury uh jury selection, Diddy pivots. his chair so the jurors come and they. all sit down in the front of the. courtroom on the right side. So now. they're like directly in front of us cuz. we're on the right side and they're. facing left. So we see their side. profiles. Diddy sees like if he twists. he'll see all of their faces and it's. tiered, you know, so it's rows and he's.
just giving them undivided attention. So. they have a mic and they go one by one. and they rapid fire like I'm 34. This is. where I work. They have to answer a list. of questions that they're given and then. they pass the mic and the next person. and the next person. At points he's. craning his neck to get a better look at. the jurors while they're speaking. When. someone makes a joke, he genuinely. giggles like they're at a dinner party. And I'm like, I was just thinking in. that moment, and I think this is. unrelated, but how does that affect. jurors? Because at the end of the day, I.
think psychologically humans are. somewhat drawn to people that are. perhaps famous. Yeah. In a way, he's. giving them this attention, right? Does. that like psychologically play anything? Yes. Because and then I I guess also. like the whole thing is they are. supposed to be non-biased. Yes. They're. trying to not to judge him innocent. until proven guilty. And then he's here. being a really good sport, charming, who's laughing at their jokes, devoting. his attention to them. Does that change.
their view of Diddy? And I know what. people are going to say. They're going. to say, "If I was on that jury, it would. not change my view." Right? But you. wouldn't get to that point cuz you would. have been weeded out if you're biased. against Diddy to that level. So coming. from like a if they're a neutral. unbiased stance, does that even play a. role? I don't know. Yeah. No, that's. that's valid. That's a good point. There. is another moment during group. questioning where um so they all have to. answer if they have adult children where. their adult children work. So there's no. I guess conflict of interest or any. bias. One of the jurors states that her. daughter retired as an executive from.
United Healthcare. And I was my eyes. went straight to Mark and cuz he and his. wife are representing Luigi Manion. At. least from my perspective, it did seem. like Kenny and Mark Agnif shared a look. It looked like a mental note look. It. didn't look panicked. It didn't look. crazy. It just was like, oh. But it was. interesting nonetheless. Yeah. Okay. So. now the people and places list, it's. just a lengthy list. So far from all of. the every juror that was the first day, they didn't ask personally. So, every.
cheer that came in was like, "Yeah, Kanye." And everyone's like, "How do. people how does everybody know Kanye. personally?" And then once they're. verifying, do you know them personally. or you just recognize their name as a. celebrity? They're like, "Okay, yes, I. recognize their name as a celebrity." So. far, here's the list of people. Number. 38 is Chance Combmes, which is Diddy's. daughter. Christian Combmes, Diddy's. son. Laurianne Gibson, a choreographer. Kanye West, Michael B. Jordan, which one. of the jurors does mistake him for the. basketball player. Lauren London, an. actress who dated Nipy Hustle before his.
passing. Uh Kid Cuddy, Mike Meyers, the. actor and comedian, Aubrey O Day, Harvey. Pierre, that's the producer. These are. people that are like directly related to. Diddy and there's allegations or there's. situations. Don Richards, Cassie. Ventura, Michelle Williams, the singer. from Destiny's Child, Dallas Austin, Young Miami. Uh it's been reported. So, the main connection that people are. focusing on is Mike Meyers because no. one really knows like why. We don't know. if the connection is deeper. It doesn't.
seem like there's a deep connection. And. then it it's reported that Michael B. Jordan went on a date with Cassie which. Diddy was reportedly upset by allegedly. And then obviously Kid Cuy his car was. blown up. Allegedly Diddy blew up his. car. And the rest I imagine a lot of. them don't have sinister connections as. some people are making it appear. Like I. don't think this is the Diddy's list. that you know, but I I guess we'll find. out. So, a lot of people are now. guessing what's next because opening. statements are coming Monday. Some.
people are commenting. I'm guessing Mark. and Tenny are going to focus on the sex. trafficking. And then Emily is going to. be on drugs and drug use. Brian Steel, the RICO racketeering focus. Nicole West. Morland will probably concentrate on. cross-examining female witnesses. Alexandra Shapiro is uh this netzen's. favorite. She seems to be the expert, but I'm not sure what she and Xavier. Donaldson will focus on. That's the. netizen comment. And so with that, we. just have to wait for Monday for opening.
statements to start. So they haven't. narrowed down to the 12. No. And the six. alternates? Not yet. So they're going to. do that on Monday and then opening. statements will start right after. So. right now there's 45. And at this point. up until this point, every time the. defense doesn't want someone on the jury. or the prosecutors don't want someone on. the jur jury, they have to tell the. judge, "I don't want them for this. reason." The judge can disagree. The. judge can be like, "Yeah, your reason is. dumb or no, that doesn't apply." But so. they fight it out. Or maybe sometimes.
they both agree, which in that case, the. judge will strike that juror. But now. each of them have six strikes. They can. take out six jurors without explanation, without reason. So 45 - 6 and 6 that's. 12. So 45 - 12 would be. 33 people left after they just knock out. 12. But I do think that there's um more. questionings too for any potential. strikes as well. They just have to. narrow down to 12 and then six.
alternates. But I think it'd be. interesting to see who they strike out. just because they're like I don't want. to give a reason. This is it's. interesting. So, a lot of decisions will. be made on Monday and I will be in the. courthouse and I will be right here. right after and I will see you. [Music].
