“I Got $4k To Rub Baby Oil On Her & Diddy Watched In A Corner”- Male Worker Testifies In Combs Trial

[Music]. Bada bing, bada boom. There is one. person in the courtroom that is probably. having a worse day than Shawn Combmes. But first, I have to set the scene. There are no cameras allowed in the. federal courtroom. So, these are just. the things that we've noticed. Don't. take it as fact. I feel like recently, the past few days, they have been. pumping the AC in the courtroom. There. are speculations that the jurors are. getting very sleepy after lunch. We. don't know how true that is. That's like. the whispers in the courthouse hallways. We're all just shivering. We're all.

cold. The defendant comes out wearing. his old man in church that could never. hurt a fly outfit. Collared shirt, sweater, trousers. He really only gets. like five sweaters, five collared. shirts, I believe. So, he's wearing the. same things on on repeat. Yeah. And. there will just be these moments where. Combmes Shawn Combmes has his reading. glasses on and he hasn't been staring. So, like I feel like as the trial has. evolved, everything that Shawn Combmes. has done has also evolved. I don't know.

if it's because things have gotten a lot. more serious day by day or if maybe he's. being coached on how to act and like. every day things are different and maybe. every day is a specific vibe that he has. to set. But he has his reading glasses. on more frequently and he will look back. over his shoulder where the press are. sitting, but not really at anyone. anymore. It doesn't feel like he's. actually making eye contact with many. people. I feel like the first few days. his retinas were scanning. The second.

week after the jury has been seated, after opening statements have been. stated, defendant suddenly does not know. how to eye contact. He does not even. know that such a thing is possible. It's. very interesting. He will sometimes. glance at whatever is in the room and he. will look over the top of his reading. glasses and he just looks like a boomer. getting mad at their teenage kids during. breakfast. Like that's the that's the. feeling. Also, he was seen reading a. Bible one day before court was in. session. So, there is that. And he does.

seem a bit more energized. like the. whole defense team seems a lot more. energized, which is interesting because. considering we have witness number two. that's going to take the stand and then. right after that, immediately after. that, Cassie is going to be testifying. and things just keep getting weirder for. the defense, but they're in high. spirits. I will do attorney updates. One. of the sketch artist does compliment. Mark Agnifil on his tie. he stops and he. just like has this full-blown. conversation with her about like the.

different shades of blue and which. shades of blue that they love. And I. always think it's so fascinating that. everybody is so calm. Everybody is so. happy and friendly until they're not. I. mean, not that anyone would have any. reason to be unfriendly with the sketch. artist except maybe if you're like Shawn. Combmes, which side note, random Laura, there are a few sketch artist legends. inside this courthouse. And one of the. ones that are doing this case, they drew. Maxwell, Gain Maxwell, and Maxwell. during the trial did not like what the.

sketch artist was drawing. So, she. starts drawing the sketch artist who. then draws Galain Maxwell drawing her. And it's just like the weirdest thing. ever. And inside the courthouse when you. walk in, there's like sketches. everywhere. They're framed and they're. hung up of some of the big trials. Anyway, also the defense starts playing. musical chairs. They're moving people. around. So, right next to Diddy, he's in. like um and this is so intentional, I. believe, because Cassie's going to start. testifying soon. He is in a table full. of women. He is suddenly sandwiched by.

women. So, you've got lead attorney Mark. Agnifil and then you have Anna Estavio. I think I'm saying her name right, but. she's going to be the one that is. cross-examining Cassie. Haven't heard. about on about her name. Yeah, she she. was not as I guess in my eyes as. prominent. I'm sure she's a prominent. member of the defense team, but And then. next to her is Diddy. And then next to. Diddy on the left is no longer Boys. Club. So, it's no longer Diddy and Brian. Steel, Young Thug's former attorney. It.

is now Tenny Garos. So, she swapped with. Anna. And then next to her is Alexandra. Shapiro. And then now in front we've got. Xavier Donaldson, Nicole West Morland, and then now Brian Steel is up at the. front. And then in front of them there's. the row of prosecutors. And then the. judge walks in and Judge Arun I feel. like at this point and again in like the. most professional sincere way possible. like he is dad. I feel like all of the. attorneys are his kids and he is almost.

always disappointed in them is the vibe. because they're just like disappointing. him left and right to some degree. Some. more than others and he just has to make. sure that everything is done correctly. and accordingly. But also, I love the. way that he doesn't converse much with. the jurors or the witnesses, but his. energy is very sincere anytime they're. in the room. And then they leave the. room and he's like disappointed dad. again with all the other attorneys. Yeah. So, Judge Arun is father at this. point. Also, I did notice that Mark. Geragos is absent from the courtroom.

Mark Geros is Tenny Gyaragos's celebrity. attorney father. Previously, he and. Officer Riz, he's like an officer of the. courtroom. He's like the one that his. name is RZ. No, his last name has the. word RZ in it. So, now the RM team just. calls him Officer RZ. It's not actually. his last name, but that's what we call. him. So, Officer Riz, he controls the. courtroom. Okay. The rest of the. courtroom outside of the judge and he. and Mark Geros have this thing where I.

have no idea if they're like an old. married couple that you just cannot tell. if they're goofing around or if they. genuinely hate each other and have some. sort of massive life insurance plan. hidden somewhere. There will be moments. where Mark Geragos, who is allowed his. phone inside the courtroom because he's. counsel, officer Riz will snap at him to. put his phone away or sometimes he'll. snap at him and tell him to sit down. when he's standing up perhaps like at. inappropriate times he's standing up. There's one time officer Riz tells him.

to sit down across the courtroom and the. Combs, they think it's like a blast. They're giggle gaggling at it and now. he's gone. So I'm like, "Oh, is it. because he wasn't sitting down?" I was. confused. I look it up. He's on the. Menendez case. So, he actually went to. California for the Menendez brothers. case, which again, that's a whole other. thing I can do another deep dive on. because they were just re-sentenced. So, that's going on with Mark Garagos. Yeah. There so much going on. Yeah. So, there's a lot going on with the. attorneys, but it's going to.

progressively get weirder. So, a few. disclaimers before we get started. regarding content warnings. There are. themes of essay and DV. Secondly, certain portions and quotes have been. shortened and condensed and/or combined. for brevity. Third, this is a very quick. disclaimer, but everything reported on. in this episode and throughout the trial. is public information. Any descriptions. or observations regarding the defendant. or anybody else inside the courtroom are. personally noted by myself or my two. researchers who are also present seeing. these things happen in real time with.

our own eyes. However, just because we. see something and feel something does. not mean that our experiences and. statements are valid reflections of the. truth. Our interpretations of these. random things that we see in the. courtroom are our own interpretations. and opinions and they are shared for the. purpose of reporting on current events. like they obviously have no weight or. bearing clearly on the verdict of the. trial, but also none of this should be. used as a definitive source on how. someone should feel about the defendant,

about any of the witnesses, or about any. of the attorneys or literally anyone. because what do we know, right? Shan. Combmes is also presumed innocent until. proven guilty. The burden of proof is. the responsibility of the prosecution. So, with all of that said, let's get. into it. Now, super brief recap. We did. four deep dive episodes into the Diddy. case in 2024 after his arrest. There I. feel like there's more than eight hours. collectively on a ton of the. allegations, internet speculations, and. the unfolding of the arrest. This is now.

our third episode in the trial. We. covered the first witness that was. testifying, which is the former security. guard at the Intercontinental Hotel. This is the second witness that is. brought up to testify. And I will say a. lot of the major headlines right now are. like the salacious details that this guy. has said on the stand. And there's a lot. of salacious details. Yes. But I think I. feel like people have just kind of went. over who this man is. I It's very.

interesting. He walks in through the. back doors and we see him walk down the. aisle and immediately he has a very. interesting presence. He's also super. buff, like just super muscular and he's. walking in like sometimes he'll wear his. sunglasses and then he'll take them off. respectfully at the stand, but he has a. very strong presence and everybody. online has dubbed him the male escort. that testified in this case. He states. immediately that he met Cassie around.

maybe 2012, 2013. He had gotten a call. from his boss and he told him that quote. he couldn't find any of our black. dancers which was what was requested. So. he asked me if I would mind going down. to fulfill an order to have a dancer go. down to the Gramarcy Park Hotel in New. York City for a bachelorette party. I. told him I would do it. So he works for. like a like a dancer company, right? He's going to go there. He's going to. put on a show for this bachelorette. party. He's going to get paid $200 and.

then he's going to call it a night and. go home. That's the plan. Now, side. note, he is supposed to be dressed up as. a police officer because that was what. was requested, but he didn't have one, like a police uniform, so he just went. and bought a NYPD t-shirt. He shows up. to the hotel. Does he know it was uh Did. he No, he does not. So, he's explaining. the job is I mean, it sounds relatively. simple. He says, quote, "I was expecting. to do a little strip tease and that was. it. Just for a bachelorette party, a.

group of women and then leave." So, he. gets to the hotel room around after. midnight, so really late. He gets to the. hotel room, knocks on the door, Cassie. opens the door, and he does not know. that this is Cassie. He just thinks. maybe this is the Bachelorette. She's. wearing a red wig, wearing red lingerie. with high heels and dark sunglasses on. He's expecting a bachelorette party. And. this feels I mean I would assume like. the saddest bachelorette party. There's. nobody in this hotel room. He says she.

asked me if I was okay if it was just. going to be us because I was expecting. to see a group of women there, but there. was only her standing in the door. She. asked me to come into the room. She said. it was her birthday and that her husband. wanted to do something special for her. And so she asked me if I would mind. rubbing baby oil on her and giving her a. massage. and wherever things went from. there, if it went if you know based on. how comfortable I was. He says he walks. into the hotel room where there is a. whole living room. It's like a suite.

There's velvet couches that open up into. this larger space. There's a coffee. table and this coffee table, it's just. filled with candles lit up all over the. coffee table. I I would imagine it feels. like a seance or something cuz it's the. rest of the room, he says, is very dark. There's candles lit up everywhere. There's baby oil. There's astrolglide, but probably the most pertinent part of. the room to note, and this is according. to the witness, he sees a man in the.

back of the room. So, he's assuming this. is her husband that she was just telling. me about. But this man is wearing a. white robe with the bandana over his. face and a baseball cap. It's like the. weirdest attire. I mean, I would imagine. it's kind of terrifying. Regardless, Cassie is reassuring him. You know, she. told me that first off that I didn't. have to worry about anything because her. husband wasn't gay. I remember her. saying that to me and he wasn't going to. try and touch me or anything. And I told. her that's good because I wasn't with. that. And then um she told me that um. she knew that my boss told her that she.

had to give me $200 upon arrival. And at. that point, she gave me a few $1,000 and. said at the end she would tip me before. leaving. Which again, at this point, he. doesn't know this is Cassie. He doesn't. even really know who Cassie is. rather. he didn't even know her name at this. point. He didn't know who anybody was. He says, "I complimented the room, the. hotel we were in, and then I asked the. guy what he did for a living and he told. me that he was in importing and. exporting." Does he know who Diddy is?

This is where he finds out. So, he's. like, "I love this hotel room. What do. you do for work?" He says, "Importing. and exporting." And there was like a. slight I heard a few people giggling. like slight like giggles in the. courtroom because it's like such a such. a vague like it's Diddy. He's like I've. been importing and exporting and he said. immediately upon hearing his voice like. he knew that was Diddy. He knew that was. Sean Combmes really. Yeah. He says. immediately his voice is so. recognizable. He says wow. But he states.

after this brief conversation he doesn't. want to he doesn't want to be like no. you're not. You're Shawn Combmes. So he. doesn't say anything. I imagine he and. Cassie start rubbing baby oil on each. other and then having intimate relations. with one another. He's asked by the. prosecutor, "What was he doing while you. and Miss Ventura were having intimate. relations?" He was sitting in the corner. self-pleasuring. He admits that the. whole interaction did not last very long. at all. So once they're done, Cassie. gives him more money. So he makes like a.

couple thousand that night. And he says. that Shawn kept asking if he would like. to see him again. like, "Do you want to. see us again? Do you want to see I guess. us again or some variation of that?" And. the prosecution asks, "And let me ask. you, how did you respond to that?" I. said, "Sure." And he told Cassie to take. my phone number, and she took my phone. number, and that was that. He says he's. about ready to leave. He's maybe a few. minutes out of that hotel room when. Cassie, quote, "Cassie texted me asking. me if I would mind sending her a picture. of my private part." And how did you.

respond? I gave her a picture of my. private part. What was the next. communication you had with her? She. asked me if I could come back upstairs. and see her again. And how did you. respond? I went back upstairs to see her. again. Wait, so he just left? Yes. Send. a photo and went right back. Yes. So he. leaves a few minutes. Few minutes later, he sends a picture of his private parts. because it was requested. And then he. goes back up to the hotel room. He goes. straight back up there where again it's. Cassie and it's Shawn Combmes. And this.

time he says he ends up staying for a. few hours. So, what do you remember. happening over those few hours? The same. thing. It was literally the same exact. scene basically. I um we rubbed baby oil. on each other. We had intimate relations. for longer this time and then I was. done. I do not recollect whether or not. they gave me anything else after that. money-wise. What was Mr. Combmes doing. while you were having this sexual. encounter with Miss Ventura? He was. self-pleasuring in the corner. Okay. I. feel like the prosecutors really want. him to keep saying that. I feel like.

it's pertinent to this case, but also. just the constant, very matter-of-act. tone of he was self-pleasuring in the. corner watching us is a very interesting. thing to just hear out loud over and. over again in a courtroom. The second. time he leaves for a real and he says. later, his boss looked up who Cassie was. for him and that's how he found out who. she was. He already knew that it was. Shawn Combmes in the hotel room. So, every time you met with Miss Ventura and. Mr. Combmes, what was the purpose of the. meeting? Do you have sex with Cassie? In.

front of who? In front of Mr. Combmes. He would say that whenever he met them, sometimes they would alert him maybe an. hour before or a couple days in advance. He would meet them at hotels. Sometimes. he would have to tell the hotel. employees, "I'm here to see black." That. was like the code word. And then they. would lead him to that room. I guess. maybe that's the name that they book. under. He's asked, "During your several. encounters with Cassie and Mr. Combmes, generally, how were the rooms decorated? sometimes sheets or like towels on the. couch. The curtains were always shut.

fully. There was always a table in front. of the couch and there was always. candles on that table and also bottles. of baby oil or astroglide. And then. there were a few occasions where they. would ask me to actually go to the. pharmacy and pick those things up. I. guess because they didn't have them at. their location. And yeah, the baby oil. conversation is brought back up on the. internet, but also in the courtroom. The. prosecutors asked the witness, "Across. all of these encounters, how often did. you use baby oil?" Every time. Other. than the first time at the Gramarcy Park. Hotel, who directed you to use the baby.

oil? Well, are you asking? Okay, I think. I understand. So, the first time Cassie. did, and then I guess we kind of knew. what to do after that, but Sean Combmes. would often tell us like, "Y'all need to. rub more baby oil on each other. You. don't have enough on." So, what type of. things do you remember Mr. comb saying. to you and to Miss Ventura about the. baby oil during these encounters, he. would just tell us to put more on. So, it appears this is the point where the. prosecutors are trying to show the. jurors that Shan Combmes is the one. facilitating and directing these.

freakoffs. Across all of these. encounters after the first one, who if. anyone gave directions about how to. engage in sexual activity? Sean Combmes. did. What are some of the directions you. remember Mr. Combmes giving to you and. Miss Ventura? He would tell us things. like, "Slow down, you know, y'all stop. now. Separate from each other. It's. getting too much now. It's getting too. hot, y'all." You know, one time he had. us try to role play. Like we had just. met at an airport and uh yeah, we were.

not very good at that at all. So, I. think we just kind of skipped past that. one really quickly. Yeah. But mainly it. was more like, you know, don't finish. yet. Don't finish. If you feel like. you're going to finish, don't finish. yet. Like things like that. So, Sean never joined. Um later he will explain that it was. mainly him and Cassie having intimate. relations while Shawn Combmes is in a. corner self-pleasuring and then once. he's done and.

finishes Cassie and Shawn Combmes will. disappear into the bedroom for sometimes. hours and he just like sits in the. living room of the hotel suite for hours. after Sean is finished. after he's. finished. Oh, after he is I see. I see. And he doesn't really know what's going. on in the bedroom. About how often during these encounters. would Mr. Combmes tell you to wait to. finish? I mean, it was often, but I. think he started really directing us. from like the second time on. So the.

first encounter he didn't really say. much to us but after that he would tell. us to do you know after that he really. would just tell us to like rub each. other and like you know touch each other. and then he would tell her to you know. blow me give me oral I mean yeah he. would often tell me not to finish don't. finish yet and if you feel like you're. going to finish stop so it was more so. like where he wanted me to finish and. what do you remember about him what do. you remember him saying about that he. occasionally wanted me to finish on your.

stomach or you know inside and you know. yeah throughout these encounters what. did you observe Mr. Combmes doing? He. was always sitting in the corner. self-pleasuring and then occasionally he. would tell me to step off and back up. because he was going to get some and. then he would start having intimate. relations with her and I would be. sitting off in the corner watching just. what did Miss Ventura and Mr. Combmes. usually do after you ejaculated on her? They would get up and go inside of. wherever the bedroom was inside the. hotel room. And generally what happened.

next? I'd be sitting in that room for. hours just sitting there. And then what. do you remember happening? Sometimes. they would come out and tell me, "Okay, you can go." And other times they would. come out and ask me if I'm ready to go. again. About how long did each of these. encounters with Mr. Combmes and Miss. Ventura usually. last? Could be anywhere from an hour to. 10 hours. 10 hours. 10 hours. So, this. is like a huge point for the prosecutors. is that these freakoffs would last. multiple days and that for Cassie, for.

years of her life, it would potentially. feel like half of her week is in this. horrendous freakoff situation. How many. times, if any, did you pretend to. finish, but you actually did not? I. think this was our on our second goound. Uh he told me to make sure that I finish. inside of her this time and I went to. go, but I I just I couldn't do it. I. just I was in my head or whatever the. problem was, but I couldn't finish. And.

so I just pretended to do it and I was. they got up, they went into the room, and then Sean Combmes came out of the. room and he asked me, he said, "Yo, are. you sure you finished?" And I said, "Yeah, I'm positive." And he was like, "You sure?" And I said, "Yes." And so. they went back into the room and yeah, that was that. But yeah, they definitely. know. This is the part that has been all. over the headlines that I have seen is. um the prosecutors ask, "What if any. bodily fluids other than ejaculate? Do. you remember there being in these.

rooms?" The witness responds, "So Cassie. was actually the one that asked me to to. urinate on her." They had just come out. of the room and she asked me if I had. ever done that before and I said no. And. she told me to do it. And apparently I. was doing it wrong because they both. stopped me and told me that I was. supposed to let a little out at a time. and not go full like take a leak on her. just Yeah, that was just one time that. they asked me to do that. What was Mr. Combmes doing when you urinated on Miss.

Ventura? He was self-pleasuring. They. also bring up the alleged recording of. Freakoff saying, "Who, if anyone. recorded your encounters with Miss. Ventura?" Sean Combmes. About how many. times do you remember Mr. Mr. Combmes. recording you and Miss Ventura during. these sex encounters. Again, I would be. estimating, but once or twice. And what. do you remember Mr. Combmes using to. record these encounters? I do believe a. cell phone and a camcorder device. So, when he was saying all of this, did you. see what Diddy was doing in court? Yes.

Okay. So, this is the very interesting. thing. I think um I feel like prior. to it really started during opening. statements, Diddy just like morphed into. a marble statue. Everything became so. frozen to the point where it just felt. very unnatural. Like I just don't see. many people have that level of stillness. inside of them. Yeah. So it's a it's a. it feels intentional because it doesn't. even feel still. It feels rigid, right?

So it feels intentional. But during. these two witness testimonies, we did. notice something. So my researchers and. I were like, "Okay, are we noticing the. same thing because it's so interesting.". I feel like every time anybody else is. talking or the judge is talking, the. attorneys are talking, they're arguing, they're going back and forth on things, they're like submitting applications, he. is rigid, he's statuesque, he's frozen. But during the two witness statements, he would have these moments where his. body language feels a little bit more.

like what people remember Diddy being. So he kind of instead of having his back. off of the back of the chair and being. frozen and rigid and looking like the. bestest boy at church every Sunday, he. starts leaning back towards the chair. He has his I wrote this down. specifically. his right shoulder is. down, his left shoulder is up, and his. head is kind of cocked to the left. And. then there would be some times where. during the witness statements, he'll. kind of prop his left arm onto the.

chair. So, I can't see. that. It looks like either he's putting. it on his thigh or it could be the chair. or it could just be it's not leaning on. the top of his chair. Like, you know, when people drape their arm on the top. of the chair, it's very relaxed. It's. very casual. It could be perceived as. like asserting dominance. I don't know. Right. It's not like that at all. It's. just it looks like it's maybe propped up. on the chair. So, you can kind of see. his left shoulder propped up. So, very. minor shift. Yes. A little bit more.

relaxed. I also did notice, and this. could just be my perception of things, more often than not, I do see him. lifting his chin up more when he's. looking at the witnesses that are. testifying. So, it's almost like he's. lifting his chin and like looking down. at them, even though they might be a. little more elevated, honestly, than he. is. I just see his chin go up more, but. I don't know, maybe there's like a. reflection on an iPad that's bothering.

his eye. It It could be anything else. I. just noted it down because I thought it. was interesting. That helps cuz now I. feel like I can see that posture. But. he's incredibly stoic. He will have a. break from this like. stoicism at the end because he starts. doing stuff that I don't even think he. realizes he's doing near the end because. this witness yes during. cross-examination because I think things. get a little bit crazier but yes at this. point he's stoic but his body language. has shifted a teeny tiny bit. Now there.

were a lot of things that this witness. says that he was very concerned about. The witness states that he did not. notice Cassie to be under the influence. of drugs except for one time and it was. pretty alarming. He said, "I came to a. hotel room and Shawn Combmes opened the. door and when I went inside the hotel. room, he closed the door behind me and. then he said to me, I don't think this. is going to happen today." And I looked. at the couch and Cassie looked like to. me she looked like she was completely.

passed out on the couch, slumped over. and half on the couch, half off the. couch. So he said it it was very. alarming. And there was another time. that Sean Combmes actually offered him. Molly MDMA and he is asked by the. prosecutors, "What do you remember about. the time that you were offered Molly by. Mr. Combmes?" I I remember they had um I. really can't tell you who gave me the. money, but I'd gotten a couple thousand. I guess after we were we had intimate. relations. I took that Molly and then I.

became a totally different person. I. went out into Time Square and I handed. out $100 bills to every single person. that I saw in front of me. What? When. you say you became a totally different. person, how did the Molly make you feel? It made me feel like a jackass that. wanted to go into the middle of Time. Square and hand out $100 bills to every. person that he saw. Can you describe the. sensation of taking the Molly for us, please? I felt sick, like physically.

sick, like nauseous, but also I felt. euphoric at the same time. But. eventually, he says he starts reaching. out to Cassie because he's very worried. about her. He says at some point after. things had happened, I always wanted, you know, to to know that she was good. I used to try to get to her to text me. to tell me that, you know, she was good. And then when she wouldn't reply, eventually I started sending her more. vulgar text messages to see if I could. get her, you know, more interested to. see me again so that I could actually. see her in person and know that she was.

good. When you say that you sent vulgar. text messages, what do you mean? I mean, I can recall sending her at least one. message telling her I mean that I wanted. to You want me to just say it? if you. wouldn't mind giving an. example. I want to you right now. And. are those the kind of vulgar text. messages you would send her? Not often, but once or twice. Yeah. To the best of. your recollection, did Cassie ever. respond to those vulgar text messages? I.

don't think so. Okay. But why is he. scared and worried for Cassie so much. that he's sending these vulgar messages. to almost bait her into responding? Like, it's a very interesting. circumstance to be in. like why does he. even need to reach out to begin with? Like clearly something is bothering him. He tells the courtroom that he starts. developing ED, erectile dysfunction to. which he is asked, "When was the first. time you experienced that sex. performance issue?" After the first time. that I saw him hit her. He says he was.

at Cassie's house and he's sitting on. the couch. Cassie is sitting in front of. him on the computer. So there's a little. desk facing the wall, but her back is. facing him. And Sean Combmes is in. Cass's bedroom. They had just gotten. done having intimate relations and he. says, "Well, I had intimate relations. with her. We finished doing what we were. doing and then they both went into the. bedroom." She eventually came out and. she got on her computer and Mr. Combmes. was in her bedroom. Cassie was on her.

computer and I heard him yell out, "Babe, come here." I heard Mr. Combmes. yell out to Cassie, "Babe, come here.". Cassie was on her computer and she said, "Hold on one second. I have my personal. information out on the computer right. now. He, Mr. Combmes, came out of the. room and I just saw a bottle fly past. her and hit the wall. It looked like a. liquor bottle. And then he, Mr. Combmes, walks over to her to Cassie. He grabbed. her by the hair and started dragging her. by the hair into her bedroom. And he. wasn't saying anything while he was.

dragging her. She was yelling. Now, side. note, the whole time Sean Combmes is. just stoic again. even during like this. very lengthy description of what. allegedly took place. Like he's not. moving. He's very frozen. What was she. saying? She was screaming and he Mr. Combmes pulled her into the bedroom and. I could hear him. What I could hear what. sounded like him slapping her. What else. could you hear from the bedroom? She was. screaming. What did you hear her saying? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And then he Mr.

Combmes was basically saying, "Bitch, when I tell you to come here, you come. now, not later." Wow. How did you react to this violence? I. was shocked. I It came out of nowhere. I. was terrified. I didn't know. I didn't. know what to do. I didn't know. Did you. intervene? No. Why not? Because I knew. that the chances that there were four or. five bodyguards in another objection.

sustained. So, this part like they have. to they have to keep going with. something else. Without speculating. about what might have been going on. outside of what you could see and what. you could hear, can you explain to the. jury why you didn't intervene when you. heard Cassie crying and what sounded. like smacks? I didn't know what to do. I. was shocked. In my mind, it was going. through my head that if I tried to do. something, I might lose my life. Objection overruled. And why didn't you. call the police and report what you saw? Again, without speculating, I'm I'm not.

I'm not speculating. I'm just telling. you what was in my mind and what I was. feeling at the time. My thoughts were. that this was someone with unlimited. power. Objection overruled. My thoughts. was that this was someone with unlimited. power and chances are that even if I did. go to the police that I might still end. up losing my life. Prosecutor Comey asks. what happened after the beating stopped. They Sean Combmes and Cassie came out of. the room. She was Kelsey was visibly. like very upset. Did not look like she.

wanted to continue doing anything, but. Mr. Combmes asked, "Are y'all ready to. continue now?" And I was um I couldn't. do anything after that. He says he tried. to act like everything was okay. How do. you remember that interaction ending? I. remember leaving. I do not remember them. handing me money, and I probably. wouldn't have taken that anyway. Why did. you return to meet with Miss Ventura and. Mr. Combmes again after you witnessed. that violence? I've had conversations in. between our interactions with Cassie and. I felt like I had started developing at.

least some kind of friendship with her. I may have been speculating, but you. know, I it was my way of being able to. check on her and know that she was okay. He says that after that he heard Shanome. screaming at Cassie once more. He says. this was a different incident at the. Essex House Hotel. He says the hotel. room when you get to the front door, you. walk in and there's a whole bedroom, there's coffee table, there's like a. bathroom and the foyer and this layout. oddly becomes important at one point, but listen, that's for later. What do.

you remember happening right before you. heard Mr. Combmes yell? I think we had. sex during this encounter after you had. sex. What do you remember? Sean Combmes. and Cassie were in the bedroom for a. while and I was in the living room. Out. of nowhere, I could hear Cassie yelling, "I'm sorry. I'm sorry." And then I could. hear again what sounded like she was. being slapped or someone being slapped. around and slammed around the room. I. looked around the corner to where the. foyer was and I saw Mr. Combmes walk out. of the hotel altogether without clothes. on. He might have had a towel on which I. guess some people would say is.

reminiscent to the Intercontinental. Hotel video footage. And then Cassie. came running into the living room and. she literally jumped into my lap and she. was shaking. Like literally like her. whole body was shaking. Her whole entire. body was shaking. Like she was. terrified. And what did you say to her? I asked her why is she doing this? Why. is she staying with this guy if he's. objection? And the judge asks attorney. Donaldson from the defense, what's the. grounds for the objection? He hearsay. Overruled. There's a lot of objections.

throughout all of this. So, I feel like. we keep like we're trying to figure out. what's happening and then there's. objections and then we keep getting. little bits and then there's objections. Prosecutor Comey continues, "Can you. tell us again what you said to Aassie? I. asked her why she was staying with this. guy if he was hitting her and beating. her like this. And I tried to explain to. her that she was in real danger if she. stayed with him. And she basically tried. to convince me that it was okay. It's. okay. I'm fine. I'll be okay. And I just. kept trying to tell her that you're not.

okay and you need to get help. What do. you remember happening next? She and I. were alone. And this was the first time. we were alone. And Cassie is not. somebody that likes to kiss. Objection. overruled. So the witness continues, "During our interactions, Cassie was not. a kisser, but in this instance, she just. started making out with me." This is the. shivering part or did did he just left. the hotel? Okay. So, and she just. started making out with me and we ended.

up getting into, you know, into it. But. the fact that I was alone with her this. time, I had no problem getting. physically uh capable down there, right? And right when we were start actually. starting to have intimate relations, I. realized that Mr. Combmes had re-entered. the room and he was sort of sneaking. around the corner and watching us. And. once he realized that we could see him, he came into the room and basically was. saying like, yeah, that he liked that he. liked that we were getting along in that.

way. And what do you remember happening. next? I think the second that he came. back into the room, I was done again. I. couldn't I couldn't continue. Why didn't. you go to the police after this. incident? I told you again. I was. concerned for my life. By this point, he. had taken my ID and taken a picture of. it, and I felt threatened by what he. said to me. And I felt that at the very. least, I could try to get her to realize. that she needed to leave and maybe try. to help her in that way. There's a few. other key events in the witness that he. talks about in his testimony. The first. being that he states there was another.

time where he went to visit Cassie and. Shawn Combmes where he says he walks in. and there's a man having intimate. relations with Cassie already. He says. she was actually giving him like oral. there was a lot of oral activity going. on most of the time and the prosecutor. asked and what do you remember happening. during that particular intimate act? The. guy kept on looking at Shawn in the face. Shawn Combmes in the face and Mr. Combmes turned to him and basically told. him, "Look, motherucker, you better stop. looking at me in my face." And the guy.

got like real scared and he's like, "I'm. I'm not looking at you." And he's like, "It better not be be looking at me." And. Cassie jumped off the couch and like ran. to the opposite side of the room. And. the guy was just saying like previously, "I'm not looking at you. I swear I'm not. looking at you." Which a lot of netizens. thought this was kind of an interesting. moment. They thought the psychology was. fascinating. And I'm not trying to like. psychoanalyze anybody because I don't. think I have the faculties for that. But. a lot of people say it's fascinating. because he loves to watch, which would. categorize him as what the internet.

likes to call like um you know, but he's. someone that you can't even make eye. contact with while it's happening. So. there's there's a lot of like. psychological perhaps ego power and. yeah, maybe even some shame involved is. what I saw some Yeah. Yeah. He got real. triggered when Yeah. when someone look. at him back while he's in the corner. Yeah. Which did kind of send me down a. spiral reading those comments because. the days that I've spent staring at this.

guy, I feel like this is someone who. does not shy away from eye contact, especially at least in the beginning, right? But maybe he just likes eye. contact in very specific situations. because now there's like no eye contact. with I feel not many people. And after. Cassie ran away, what do you remember. happening next? The guy told Mr. Combmes, "I'm not looking at you, Mr. Combmes." Said, "Okay, all right. Let's. let's we're here to have fun, not do. anything else." And then he told Cassie. to come back to the couch. And Cassie.

asked if they were absolutely positive. that they're good now because she was um. she seemed like she was scared to go. back to the couch. The witness does. testify and I think the prosecutors are. trying to lay the groundwork or maybe. even the evidence. They're asking. questions to establish the fact that. these freakoffs happened for sometimes. days at a time. is what they argued in. even their opening statement to which. the witness talks about how quote just. times that I would come to the hotel. room and there would be like towels on. the floor that looked used and bottles. of baby oil that were almost finished.

and Astroglide that was halfway used and. it just looked like, you know, it looked. like someone had already been there. already. He also states that he was only. ever paid for intimate relations that if. he went there without having intimate. relations because sometimes he couldn't. physically perform, he would not get. paid. Furthermore, he states that. anytime he would get paid, it was around. 700 to5. to6,000. And though it was mainly Cassie. handing him the cash, he states he does. remember Shawn Combmes coming out once. and quote, "I remember he came out of.

the room once and he asked me and the. other gentlemen if we had gotten our. bread." However, he does state that he. personally never felt like he was being. paid to have intimate relations. Even. though he knows that he only got paid. for the times that he did have those. acts, he says, "Well, I for one was not. someone that was getting paid for. intimate relations." In my head, I was. just excited that I was in this world. and, you know, happy to be involved with. people with such notoriety. I didn't. care if I got paid one way or another. I.

never asked them for a single dollar. They gave that to me every time that I. went to see them. So for me it was just, you know, this is just something that. they do. They have that kind of money. They want to share it with me. I'm fine. with that. Which at this point, Sean. Combmes does turn to look. So the jury. are all facing the left side of the. room. So we're in the pews. We're all. facing the judge at the front of the. room. Okay. Everybody's facing the. judge. Shawn Combmes is facing the. judge. The prosecutors are facing the. judge. The jury, they're facing the left.

side. So, they're looking at like Shawn. Combmes's side profile, everybody's side. profile, but there's a podium right next. to the jurors, and that is where the. prosecutor or the defense attorney will. go up and they will examine the. witnesses. I see. So, it it's at least. from where I'm sitting, it was unclear. if he's looking at the prosecutor or if. he's looking at the jurors. But, at this. point, when the witness says that, Shawn. Combmes does kind of tilt and do like a. small nod. Wait, I'm sorry. What did he. say again? He says, "I was just happy.

like they have this money and they want. to share this money with it." So, it. sounds like a very positive thing. slightly. So far, this is maybe the only. thing that could be interpreted as even. remotely positive about Shawn Combmes in. this witness's testimony and he turns. towards I don't know if it's towards the. prosecutor. I'm imagining it's for the. jury, but he does like a small nod, I. guess, indicating that he too feels like. he's just sharing the love through. money. I don't know. Now, the witness. says he's scared. He says that Shan.

Combmes took his ID, saying it's just in. case, and he's kind of freaking out. about it. And there were a lot of parts. from this witness's testimony that are. really transparent to the point that if. it were not in this case, in this. situation in a courtroom setting, it. could maybe come off as vulgar perhaps. because it's the truth. It's a lot to. hear. Like people are not sugar coating. the truth in a courtroom. He will. testify and state things like he would. tell her to blow me. Halfway into the. direct, Sean Combmes's daughters, so.

they're all adults. They just had turned. 18 recently, I believe. And they first. leave to use the restroom once the. testimony starts getting into that area. of very a lot of explicit details. They. come back after the restroom and the. testimony is still very sexual in. nature. So, they leave once more and. they don't come back. So, they sit out. the rest of the testimony. the three. daughter daughters, right? Yeah. Mhm. But the mother and the sons, they stay. And that's also been a huge conversation. online. The fact that Sean comes's kids.

are showing up to support him in court. Typically, Netzens say that it's. supposed to show that the defendant has. a large support group that supports them. and believes in their innocence most. likely is what they're showing to the. jurors. Like, I believe this person is. innocent and I'm supporting them. However, in this case, nizens think it's. telling that the three youngest. daughters that are barely adults are in. attendance with nizens feeling like if. they were Shawn Combmes, they would bar. their daughters at the very least, if.

not all their kids from the courtroom. because they don't want them to. experience this level of trauma and like. hearing these things being said and the. allegations and the accusations. So, the. sentiment here being the girls being. there probably traumatizes them and only. benefits Shawn Combmes. They say that. he's not trying to be a good father, but. but he's just trying so hard to appear. to be a good father to the jury. That's. why he wanted his kids there. Other. people also think that it's weird that. his elderly mother is just sitting there. listening to witnesses testifying about. this kind of stuff. But there have been.

also lots of stories about his mother. perhaps maybe having similar interests. I don't know. Those are allegations. Those are what people who personally. know the family have been alleging and. accusing online. You can find all of. that online. I'm not the one alleging. this, but one netzen comments, "If. Diddy's 18-year-old daughters are too. young to hear of his DV and essay case, then Cassie was too young to have been. groomed and trafficked by their father.". So, there's a lot of very strong. opinions out there on the internet about. this. I will say that the family is.

Yeah, there's just a lot going on. Every. time the family comes in, even when they. go in and out for lunch, they all get. into this like giant van. Sometimes when. they leave for the day, this also. happens. There's I think it's one. person. I don't know if it's a different. person every time. I I don't get a good. look at their face, but someone is just. on a speaker playing Me and You by. Cassie. [Music]. I This is like multiple times I've heard. and seen like the family and then you.

just hear me and you blasting near the. courthouse. And side note, since we're. on the topic of the family, I just want. to run you through the energy of the. family really quick because there's a. lot of energy there. So, Christian. Combmes, this is Kim Porter's first. child with Shawn Combmes. Christian. Combmes, he reminds me a lot of Shawn. Combmes. In the first episode, I talked. about Diddy would do this thing where he. looks back and he like holds people's. gazes and then he stopped doing that. But I feel like Christian Combmes, he.

does that. He doesn't do it often, but. like randomly he just he has like this. he turns to the side and he will look. back and it's a very like intense gaze. I don't think he's specifically looking. at anyone. I don't think he even means. to. He just has very similar mannerisms. I think he also likes to walk in with. his hands in his pockets. So, I do think. that Christian Combmes has very similar. energy to Shawn Combmes. A lot of the. time during witness testimonies, he is I. see him putting his arm around his mom.

or not his mom but Sean Combmes's mom. So Christian's grandmother and his armor. is around her or he's like comforting. her somewhat or he's just like staring. off into the abyss or staring at the. judge or something. Justin Combmes which. is Sean Combmes's son with Misa Hilton. I often seem see him taking notes and. also passing notes. And then Quincy, who. is Ali Shore and Kim Porter's son, he. seems the most locked in, more.

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[Music]. So far, this second witness, I feel like. he seems very honest, and that is my. opinion and perception. Even when he. walks into the courtroom, he takes up a. lot of space. I'm not really sure how to. explain it because he's not a very tall. man. He's kind of on the shorter side, but the way he walks, he's very buff. His shoulders are wide. He gives me. similar energy to the security guy where.

they just look like they have 100%. muscle mass. And all of his answers to. questions are incredibly direct. It does. not feel like he's trying to shy away. from telling us the truth, even if it's. uncomfortable. To me, his cadence to me, in my opinion, does not indicate someone. that's trying to remember what to say or. and like most of his pauses feel. incredibly natural. Like he's just. trying to recall certain memories and. situations. Also, on top of that, I feel. like nothing about this is comfortable. for him very clearly because when he.

walks into that courtroom, I said. there's a presence about him, right? So. he walks through the aisle. He walks. past Shawn Combmes on his left, the. jurors, 12 jurors on his right. He sits. right next to the judge. And that is. when his body language completely. shifts. When he sits on that witness. stand, he is not he's like he's not. hiding, but he's so hunched over you can. barely see the top of his head because. there's a computer at the witness stand. There's a computer there cuz they have. to show like evidence pictures. You.

can't even see the top of his head. But. when you see other people that are. probably similar in height sitting. there, you see like a good chunk of. their chest, their neck, their head, you. just see like the top of his head. peeking over the computer screen. I felt. like that in conjunction with the. testimony. He looks like he's melting. into his chair. He just it felt very. honest. He could be the world's best. liar, but to me it just felt kind of. honest. I think it's interesting cuz. that's what your take, right? I feel.

like some of the jurors or a lot of them. may feel the same way like oh they can. trust what he's saying because that's. the energy that they get. There was not. one point where I felt like he was. saying something to make himself appear. better or to make himself appear more. law-abiding. It just felt almost. uncomfortably honest, right? Yeah. Like. he was tied up to a truth machine is my. opinion. And again, I could be naive. I. could be dumb. He could be the world's. best liar, but um I mean, he is on the. stand. That would be perjury. He's.

asked, "Were there times when you texted. her and she did not respond?" She never. responded to my text messages usually. Like, he's like that honest. So, it. feels like it's very interesting to see. him going into the. cross-examination. And the main person. that's going to be doing that is defense. attorney Xavier Donaldson. Now, to be. fair, I do want to preface this before. we get into this. He was one of the. later additions to the defense team. He. joined the defense team days before the. trial. Days before the trial. I mean,

what are we supposed to expect? Mark. Agnil was hired a full year ago. So, the. difference in preparation time is. massive. So, just keep that in mind. throughout all of this because I feel. like even in the courthouse, I have only. heard, and this is probably like off the. record, I don't even know what that. means, right? But I've only ever heard. people say incredibly positive things. about attorney Donaldson. With this. cross- examination, I could not look. away. And this was the first trial that. my researchers and I are attending. We. obviously watch live streams of trials.

We go through copious amounts of court. transcripts. So, we were confused. because maybe sometimes things don't. translate on camera or maybe sometimes. things don't translate on transcripts. when transcripts are the only things. available. So, we were confused on like, is this a normal cross- examination? Because it doesn't feel like it, and it. doesn't match any of the other copious. amounts of cross- examinations we've. seen on other trials that are recorded. My researcher even passed me a note that. read, "What is happening?" Because we. were a little bit lost. So, attorney. Donaldson, I feel like up until now,

he's just been like this 6'5 tower. I. don't know his actual height. He feels. 7t tall. He's just impeccably dressed. every single day. He's very stoic. You. don't see him socializing too too much. He appears to be very focused most of. the time. This is our first time seeing. him in his element. And again, to. preface, I don't even think this is his. element because he just got on the trial. like days before the trial. Like, he. just got on this case. So, he's about to. cross-examine the witness, witness.

number two. I think that Brian Steele. and Xavier Donaldson have similar. mannerisms in the sense that when they. get to the podium, they like to use. their body. I think they're both. showmen. And I mean that maybe in a good. way. I think in a good way. I think. prosecutor Comey, so this is former FBI. director's daughter, Marine Comey, she. she's the lead on this. She has her own. thing where she is blunt, to the point, very direct, and her cadence is very. addicting to listen to. She actually.

reminds me of the judge. Their. communication style, nothing gets lost. in translation. Some of the other. attorneys I feel like maybe I'm dumb, but this feels a little rambly. Like. when they're trying to like plead. something to the judge, I'm like I feel. like this is like a lot of words. happening right now. With Comey, I never. feel that her communication is like so. clear, so direct. It's just so same with. the judge is how I feel. Everything's so. clear, so direct. They're effective. communicators. And this is like you and.

the researchers. You guys all feel this. way. So it's you can assume that. probably some of the jurors feel. similarly. Yes. And it's not even just. us and the researchers because when I. have certain feelings like this. sometimes I'll even like ask other. journalists or reporters that not like. other like I'm one but you know I will. ask some of the journalists or reporters. that are also in the press and they will. kind of guide me like yeah I mean we all. think similar things of ABC or D. Not. I'm not saying they think all the. similar things that I think or anything.

like that. I'm just saying like certain. things. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of. them think Comey is very sharp. Yeah. So, Tenny is also very eloquent. So, Tenny Garos is on the defense team. Very. eloquent, but she doesn't emphasize. words as satisfying as Comey does. And. it's very interesting because in the. next episode, you're actually going to. see Comey and Tenny kind of go headto. head. And it's almost like a Yeah, it.

was very interesting to see. But both. Steel and Attorney Donaldson give me. Showman vibes. It's like the whole. energy. I feel like Brian Steel has, let. me explain. This is like how I felt it. went down. He walks up to the podium. He. takes his time. Donelsson, you were. talking. No, Brian Steel. Brian Steel. Okay. He walks up to the podium. He. takes his time. I don't know if that's. the intention, but it feels like it. naturally builds tension. It feels like. he's only going to start when he's. ready. Like he uses a lot of power poses.

as well, but I don't know why when Ryan. Steel does it, it feels so natural. Like. I'm telling you, like the hands on the. hips, blazer popped open, hip to the. side, he does all these power poses that. I feel like if any other guy did a lot. of people would be like ick. Right. But. he does it in a way where it almost. comes off like dad vibes. Yeah. Yeah. Because even like you know the viral. clips of like Yeah. Truly humble under. God. Yeah. The way he delivers that he's.

so passionate. Yeah. It's like right. It's so much conviction in that is that. that's the trick I guess. Yeah. He would. be. truly humble under God. That's what. means. I feel I do feel that he appears. like the most genuine out of the defense. team. And I I don't know if genuine is. the right word. Like he just feels very. passionate when he does talk. Very. committed. Yeah. He's very committed to. whatever the bit is, whether it's a bit.

or not, right? But he uses a lot of. power poses. He puts his arms on his. side. His chest is always up and out. And I don't know if it's the fact that I. know he lives in Atlanta. I don't even. know if he's from the South originally, but it gives me like a southern. gentleman vibe. As for Attorney. Donaldson, he gives me more of like a. polished aura about him when he talks. He likes to have both of his hands in. the air. So his palms are facing him, open hand, and it he does this a lot.

where he's like asking questions and. he'll like push the air away, push the. air in. So it's like back and forth, like come closer, go away, come closer, go away. That type of uh that type of. feeling, but I'm just going to be so for. real about this. I don't even know where. to start. The word of the day is. correct. And we counted because I don't. know why. Correct. I don't know why. Why. do we count? We are annoying people who. calculate what a pen-iz amount of a. stack of cash would be, but we counted.

and this is the span over cross-. examination that lasted two days. So, it. didn't last two full days, but it was. like the later part of one day and then. the beginning of one day. So, the first. day it was around 97 corrects. The. second day it was around 115 corrects. You just keep saying correct. In this. Yes. In this total cross-examination, I. would safely say that attorney Donaldson. said correct 200 times. And the way he. does it is not like he's saying correct. like affirmative. Yes. He would do this.

thing where he will say then you open. the door. Correct. Then you went into. the room. Correct. And it was just like. this very interesting cadence that was. to me in my opinion felt very hard to. follow. So, when attorney Donaldson gets. up onto the podium, he is everywhere but. on that podium. He is not really using. that mic. He's looking around the. courtroom a lot. At one point during. cross-examination, and we all wrote this. down, it looked like he mid question. like looked out the window and then.

bounced back back into the question, but. there was like a slight pause and he was. looking out the window. I don't know if. he was looking out the window or if he. was looking out the jurors. There's a. window behind them. It was just there. was so much. It was so hectic. the whole. cross exit. He's taking off his glasses, putting them back on, but not. necessarily to read anything. And I do. feel like this with the whole defense. team. I don't So, are you saying like. he's doing a lot, but not delivering? Yes. It It felt kind of like what you. expect from a crime show. This is a side.

note about the whole defense team. I. don't know how reading glasses work, but. we're all confused about how their. reading glasses work. Like all of them. Brian Steel, Sean Combmes, Savior. Donaldson feels sometimes sporadic. Okay. So, the glasses are coming off. They're coming in. They're like he he's. holding them with both arms behind his. back holding his glasses. He's moving. side to side. He's he's doing like. almost a 360 where he's turned his full.

body to the defense cuz the juror is on. the other side. Then he turns it towards. the family that side. And then even like. towards the press. I don't think again. he's not specifically looking at the. press. That's not what I'm indicating. But like his body is moving a lot. He's. turning up some points. He looks up at. the ceiling. Does it look like he's. nervous or does it look like that's just. how he always is? I think he is nervous. I think that he was not given adequate. time because he just came onto the case.

Okay. So, I'm just going to give you a. highlight overview of the cross. Uh, attorney Donaldson asks a question to. the witness, basically asking if his job. was to help develop the website for the. male, I guess what the public has been. dubbing male escorts that he works for. and to make it more popular. So, he's. basically saying like, aren't you there. to help this website get more popular. and gain traction? And the witness. states yes and no. And he responds, well, yes. And then he's about to ask a. question, but the judge has to stop him. and say, quote, "The jury should.

disregard council's last statement, and. there should be no statements. There. should just be questions." So, it just. feels like he's making interesting I. don't want to say mistakes. So, he's he's not supposed to make. statement. It should be a question, but. he made a mistake of stating a. statement. Yeah. And then mid. questioning, he'll have to he'll just be. like, "Can I have a second, please, your. honor?" It just felt like he was very. underprepared. At one point, the witness. even asks the attorney, "You're asking. that question not in the right way. If.

you would like me to specify, I will.". Like, it just the witness is correcting. The witness was going off on the. attorney. It's so interesting cuz he is, you know, the prosecutor's witness. So, obviously, he's going to have a much. friendlier relationship usually with the. prosecutor. And when Marine Comey, prosecutor Marine Comey is asking him. questions, a lot of the times if it's a. yes or no question, he will respond like. yes ma'am or like no, blah blah blah. And then he'll elaborate. But with. attorney Donaldson, he's like pretty.

hostile. But understandably so, I think. he's just like that is correct. That is. incorrect. He's snappy with it. So, Attorney. Donaldson asks, "Then when you met with. Cassie Ventura on that first day, you. were not going for prostitution, correct?" Correct. You were going to. optimize the lady's experience. Correct. I have no idea what that means. You have. no idea what the company's slogan that. you worked for means in regards to me. going there to optimize the ladies.

experience. I don't know what you're. referring to. Can you be specific with. your question? Yes. The company slogan. was to provide the ultimate ladies night. experience. Correct. That was the. company slogan. Yes. Some questions were. just going over what I felt like we. already knew. You worked for the. company. Correct. Correct. Yes, I did. The company sent you to a lady that. night. Correct. Yes, I did. So, you were. going there to do the ultimate ladies. night experience. Correct. I certainly.

was going there to give a great. experience. Yes. For a ladies night. For. a lady. Correct. For a bachelorette party is. what I thought it was. Correct. So, are. you saying that a lot of these questions. never lead to anything? The feeling is. like it never landed. Okay. So, there. were so many parts where I'm like, but. you know what? I'm not an attorney. Maybe these attorneys are so smart. They're 10 steps ahead and we don't even. know the endgame, right? But I don't. think the juror the jurors are not.

attorneys. The jurors are like I'm a. juror basically. No. Okay. I'm not a. juror on this case, but in the sense of. like I am a normal human being without. law school experience. Yeah. So, I would. imagine that I would have a perception. maybe similar to jurors rather than. attorneys because maybe attorneys in the. comments you're like, "Oh, no. He's. doing this because of ABC and Dene E.". And you can elaborate and I would love. to read those comments, but as someone. with no legal experience, I'm like, "Um, what are we doing? I don't understand. what's going on." By the end of it, did.

you figure out what his goal is? What. angle is he going in? By the end of it, he made me feel more confident in the. witness. Crossexamination made the. witness more credible to me in my. opinion. And the witness's tone is a lot. more assertive and firm like no, yes, like no, I just told you. So, it feels. like he he knows what's going on, right? Donaldson also kept asking questions. that the witness would say is incorrect, but it wasn't ever clarified. So, it.

just made me feel like, what do you. mean? He'd be like, "Didn't you do this. correct?" And then he'd be like, "Incorrect." And then they would never. really clarify, right? So, I'm just. like, "Okay, where is he getting that. information from? Is he just getting. wrong information? Is he what's. happening right now?" It just didn't. make any sense. And again, maybe I'm. done. Maybe attorneys can leave in the. comments for me and like help us out. because we were scratching our heads. over it. In another example, the defense. attorney would ask, "Sir, isn't it.

actually a fact that Cassie Ventura. called you on that first incident and. told you to come to the Grammarcy. Hotel?" That is incorrect. Isn't it a. fact that Cassie told you to come to the. Grammar Hotel and ask for a person named. Black later on, but not to the Grammar. Park Hotel? No. Isn't it true that. Cassie called you on the phone and told. you that I'm celebrating something for. my birthday and my husband wants to give. me something special? Isn't that. correct? That is not correct. Would you. like me to? No, I don't. Okay.

So, at this point, so we we Yes, I hear. you. And then now now I want to know. exactly when is that event or or why is. it incorrect? But they never clarified. Yeah. And then but actually this whole. thing was spoken about when the. prosecutor were were doing their direct. So Comey was asking and he was saying. that he went out because his boss called. him and said, "Hey, can you do this. bachelorette party because they want a. black dancer? We don't have any black. dancers right now except for you. Can. you go?" He bought an NYPD shirt. He.

knocks on the door. She opens with red. lingerie. Do you remember? And then now. the line of questioning is like, "She. called you to come to the hotel and ask. for black." And he's like, "No, not the. gramy hotel. My boss called me." Yeah. So it's like we just heard the story in. a different format and then now it's. like, "Wait, I'm so confused." Like I. felt confused because I'm like I don't. know if he's talking about what we just. talked about, but like that doesn't. sound right to me either. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like why is he asking Yes. a. different story? Right. Yeah. And then. I'm like, is there something I don't.

know? Like did the witness say this at a. different time where he said a different. story? I don't know. But it just didn't. it was weird. And then there's also just. really strange geographical lines of. questioning that made me feel like I'm. just trying to put a puzzle together in. my mind and it's not working. Now, when. you got to the hotel room, when you got. to the hotel, I believe you said, according to you on your direct, you. arrived at the front door and I believe. you knocked on the door. Is that fair to. say? Correct. When you knocked on the. door, someone answered that door. Is.

that fair to say? Correct. This person. was that answered the door was a. beautiful woman. Would that be fair to. say? Correct. And you recall that in. your mind there was a beautiful woman. opening the door. Correct. Correct. So the same question in three formats. Yeah. And she was wearing a wig at that. point. Correct. Correct. And at that. point prior to you, well, strike that. You hadn't talked to her about money. Correct. You didn't talk to her about. how much you would get paid for coming. there. Correct. So when you knocked on.

her door, Cassie brought up to you. something about money. Correct. Correct. And that is before you had intimate. relations. Correct. So then at that. point, Cassie gave you money. Correct. Yeah. Correct. Correct. So, as soon as. you knocked on the door, she opened the. door and you had a conversation about. what you're asking me. Yes. When you. open Sure. You knocked on the door, right? Sure. Is that right? That's. correct. She opened the door. Correct. Oh my god. Correct. You saw a beautiful.

woman there. Correct. You're kidding me. Yes. Correct. The back to the door. Yeah. You know, I was getting a little. bit confused because again, maybe. there's something I'm missing cuz I'm. not an attorney. And I do look over and. there are um well I don't know if I. should go that in depth but there there. are other reporters on the other side. and I just see one of them and I this. could be a coincidence. This could be. absolutely nothing. He could just be. really tired because I think everyone in. that courtroom was tired. He's just like. rubbing his eyes. He starts from his. nose bridge using his two fingers.

rubbing his eyes for a good minute. This. man was in distress and he's just. reporting. It was very frustrating. because about Diddy's team. Oh, I don't. want to start drama. Not that they would. even watch this, but what they you they. they were reacting to this, too. Sean. Combmes was very reactive. Really, not. at this point, but he gets even more. reactive later. But this is when I say. that his statuesque thing I felt is.

something that's strategic for the. courtroom because he was no longer. statuesque. He was doing the what I was. can best describe as a three-point look, which is he's looking at the witness. In. my perception, and this could be false, this is just what I felt and what I. perceived with my own two eyeballs. He's. looking at the witness. I feel like he. glances at the jury and then he looks at. attorney Donaldson in like a threepoint, what the hell look, like what is like, oh my god, everything is falling apart.

type of look. And then he would just. look at attorney Donaldson. There's one. point where clearly, I mean, everyone on. the defense is like waiting for certain. moments and they know what the key. moments that they're trying to hit. during this cross is. Donaldson asks the. witness a question. Well, it's a. statement plus correct question mark. Right. And I do think that the response. that they were I don't even remember the. question. It was not that important of a. question or at least I felt to me it. felt insignificant because I don't. recall the question. If it was that.

important, I do think I would recall. that question clearly. Right. But. attorney Donaldson asks a question D. Correct. And at this point, Sean. Combmes, he turns his body to the jury. and he's staring at the jury. He's. alert. His back is straight. He's like a. boy scout on command. Okay. He's ready. to like I don't know. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. But then the witness says incorrect. And. you see I saw Sean Combmes's eyebrows.

scrunch and then he sits like leans back. again, turns away from the jury and he. looks incredibly confused. So I think. this was all a rehearsed thing for the. defense like okay during the cross-. examination we're going to ask him this. and he's going to say correct and that's. how we get him. Yeah, that's like the. that's the mic drop moment. That's what. it felt like and then they got hit with. the incorrect and you don't even. remember what because it did not feel. like a significant question. I think I. think the problem was the cadence the.

flow of the cross. I don't even remember. much. I had to rego through the. transcripts cuz I'm like I don't even. know what happened. How many hours were. the the first day for for that? Like he was asking these question for. how long? Maybe like 40 minutes. So the. 40 minutes he's just asking. Correct. Yeah. And then like all the questions I. didn't get a setting. I didn't even know. where we were. It was just like where. are you in relation to the couch? You're. here correct. Like it was very.

confusing. I'm like wait which incident. is he talking about again? And then by. the time I'm like oh he's talking about. that. It would be a completely different. thing that he's like correct. And then. it was just so the pacing was so strange. that I didn't know what was happening. most of the time. Got it. So you were. confused, you were lost. Yeah. You. didn't get the point. No. And then No. Yeah. And then he'll say things like, "Okay, and then now let's get the image. right." You were in the hallway, correct? Yes. Correct. She's in the.

door, correct? Correct. And at that. moment, she hands you the money. She. invites me into the hotel room. I go. into the room. She closes the door. behind me. And then she says to me, "Your boss told me that upon arrival, I. have to give you $100 or $200." And I. said, "Correct." And then she handed me. about $4,000 or somewhere around that. ballpark. $4,000 roughly. And this is all before. any oil rubbing. Correct. Yes. Correct. Before any hugging. Is that correct? That is correct. Before any kissing. Is.

that correct? Correct. Then it just. starts kind of getting weird. Now she. was standing in I believe you said. lingerie. Correct. She had on heels. Correct. Correct. She was just lingerie, heels, and a wig. Correct. And a pair of. dark glasses. And a pair of dark. glasses. Correct. Later he says, "After. you got the money, then you looked to. the right and saw a man sitting in the. chair." That is. incorrect. You looked to the left and. saw the man sitting in the chair. After.

she handed me the money, we walked into. the room fully past the hall, past the. little hallway that was there toward the. couch that was in front of us with the. candles and everything on it. And then I. looked to the left and on the right side. of the room, if I'm facing Mr. Combmes, Mr. Combmes was sitting in the chair. with a robe on, hat, and a bandana over. his face. Yeah. I feel like I recall. that better than what that's what I. pictured. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So now while. you were standing there with Cassie and. after you received the money, you were. going to start rubbing baby oil on her.

Correct. Correct. She began rubbing baby. oil on you. Correct. Correct. And this. is while she still had on her lingerie. Correct. At that point, at some point, our clothes were off. She wasn't rubbing. baby oil on me with my clothes on. Let's. walk through it. Sure. So, you get in. there. You have I'm sorry. I forgot this. part. You were wearing a New York City. Police Department shirt. Correct. That's. correct. At one point, the witness even. says, "If you don't mind, could you. please talk into the microphone? I can. hardly hear you when you step away." Cuz. at this point, he was like moving around.

a lot. He would kind of um it's like. when in the movies you see like so like. he had he would have his arms behind his. back holding his glasses and then he. would kind of pace and he would look at. like three different people in the room. and he'd be like is that correct and. then everyone's like we can't hear you. Yeah. And then he's not asking anything. Yeah. And it's just your name is John. Correct. Yeah. And then he asks, "And. you took the oil off in front of Cassie. or you want or you went somewhere else.

to do that?" I took the oil off. I'm. sorry. You took the shirt off in front. of Cassie. I took my clo I took my. clothes off in front of Cassie. Yes. So. at that moment you got the money. You. then took off all your clothes. Correct. At the moment I got the money. I did not. take off all my clothes. After you got. the money, you had a conversation first. She walked me into the hotel room and. then after she had already explained to. me, "Hey, listen. It's my birthday. I. want, you know, to do this instead of.

the dance, the bachelorette party. I. want you to rub baby oil on me, rub me. down, give me a massage, and wherever. things go from there, whatever you're. comfortable with, we can do." And so I. told her when I was comfortable with. giving her that massage and rubbing her. down. And I asked her if she wanted me. to do the same, like to remove my. clothes as well. And so I stripped down. to well as well to my underwear. Okay. So you strip down to your underwear. And. at that point, she's rubbing baby oil on. you. I'm rubbing her down. And then she. starts doing the same to me and it. started getting intimate and we when you. say it started getting intimate. Uh-huh. You mean that you're rubbing her down,

you're rubbing her breasts, you're. rubbing her whole body down. Correct. After she started touching me, yes, I. started touching her erotically as well. And at that point, Mr. Combmes is in the. corner. He's not saying anything. Correct. No, he's in the corner. self-pleasuring immediately. Okay. And. while you are while Cassie is rubbing. you down, it appears that she's enjoying. herself. Would that be fair to say? Yes. And you are rubbing her down and you are. enjoying yourself. Correct. Yes. So, I.

think at this point the line of. questioning is to prove that perhaps. like I guess the point trying to being. made by the defense is that Cassie. seemed to be enjoying it. So, it was. something that she wanted to participate. in, but it just I think it just gets. lost in the sauce. And then that's why. you're saying you became it started. getting intimate. Correct. Correct. Because you started getting sexually. aroused. Correct. Absolutely. Yes. Other. confusing parts. Donaldson asks, "And at. some point she took off your underwear.".

Correct. I took off my underwear. You. took off your underwear. Correct. Correct. I think these parts were made. more dramatic by the fact that I feel. like Attorney Donaldson's cadence always. feels like there's about to be a mic. drop moment. M the way he paces, the way. he looks at the ceiling, looks around at. the room. I'm like waiting for a bomb to. drop. Like, okay, the next question he's. asking, like we're about to uncover. something that is drastically going to. change the case as we know it, only for.

the witness to just quickly and bluntly. tell him, "Yeah, no, that's not what. happened." Other notable parts, mid. question, someone sneezes in the. courtroom. Attorney Donaldelsson stops. mid question to say, "Bless you." And I. don't know, the whole. cross-examination, I think, like I said, the direct examination by the. prosecutors felt vulgar in the sense. that he's stating what happened. And. sometimes what happened is not. familyfriendly and it's not the easiest. things to hear. And sometimes you do. have to use explicit words because.

there's no better way to clearly. communicate exactly the events that. occurred. But I felt like with the. cross- examination, things just got. really vulgar. Like a lot of the. headline moments come I think from the. cross- examination and it just felt like. I don't I didn't understand why it had. to get so weird. For example, attorney. Donaldson asks, "And after you took off. your underwear, I imagine at that point. she is still rubbing you down." Correct. We're rubbing each other down. She was. rubbing you down after you took off your.

underwear. Correct. Correct. And she. started massaging your down there. Correct. I don't recall. Did he use the. turns? Okay. I don't recall like the. particulars of how that happened. I just. know that we ended up having sex. Okay. So, you didn't have intimate relations. standing up. Correct. No. Okay. So, after you were standing up, you then. laid her down on the couch. Is that fair. to say? Correct. And then intimate. relations occurred for I believe you. said, well, not believe, but. approximately 30 minutes. Correct. No.

The first time that was probably the. most beautiful woman I had ever seen. That was really fast. So, when you say. the most beautiful woman you've ever. seen that caused you to finish fast. Yeah. Were you on top of her or behind. her at this point? I have no idea what. time frame during this you're referring. to. This could be at any point in the. interaction. In the Gramarcy Hotel when. you received $2,000, were you on top of. her, behind her? What happened? Are you. asking when I finished? Yes. What. position I had her in? I asked that it.

it was missionary. It was a missionary. position. Later he asks, "Okay, you then. she also asked you to send a picture of. your down there." Correct. That is. correct. And she also informed you that. you had the largest down there that she. had ever seen before. Correct. That is. correct. And she had said that to you. also while you were having intimate. relations with her the first time. Correct. That is correct. So the first. time you were having intimate relations. with her, you were not only aroused at. her beauty, she was aroused at the size.

of your down there. Correct. it. I get. the point that he's trying to make, but. it just didn't hit. At least for someone. that's not of a legal background and. just like a regular regular person. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, like you. said, he's trying to say that O Cassie. liked this encounter. Yes. That's the. point he's trying to make. But I think. the way he's phrasing it almost felt. kind of gross. Like Yeah. Like behind. her like she said you had I don't know.

I I do feel like there would have been. better ways to phrase it which would. also help the defense case. Yeah. Yeah. He also asks questions that I just again. I think the defense is trying to prove. that Cassie was involved in facilitating. orchestrating and I guess are trying to. say that she liked and wanted these. freakoffs. But I I just don't know if. this is like it doesn't make sense to me. why they're asking him this question.

They would ask she also paid for this. hotel visit with her credit card. Correct. He's like I don't know what she. paid for with the hotel. I have nothing. to do with that. Well, you did learn. from your boss that Miss Ventura paid. for this hotel stay with her credit. card. Correct. That's not correct. She. paid for the dancer to come to her with. the credit card. I have no idea who paid. for the hotel. I mean, honestly, it got. to the point where I did think maybe the. defense was playing chess. I'm like, maybe they're stalling or something cuz. I'm like, maybe cuz the next witness is.

um Cassie. So, I thought I but like I. didn't understand what they could. possibly be stalling for and like there. was no way that this was going to. continue going on. So, it just didn't. really make sense. So, the. cross-examination is not doing them any. favor. Yes. But maybe again, I don't. know. maybe this is going to come up. later and then it's going to come full. circle and I go, "Oh, okay." So that's. why they were asking these what I. thought were odd questions. But near the. end, there's this moment where this is. like the second day. Everything is.

quiet. I think attorney Donaldson was. like in the middle of trying to think of. his next question or like going through. a paper or something. And you just hear. the sketch artist sketching away. Like. you just hear because they they have. this giant poster board and they chalk. the background and everything. So. there's a lot So there's a lot of chalk. noise. It's like and they're clearly. drawing him. And did you see the. finished drawing? Yeah. And if it were. me Yeah. I would be very stressed as. well because there it's a lot of.

pressure I assume. But at this point the. judge requests a sidebar where there's. white noise playing. So anytime there's. a sidebar the attorneys from both sides. and the judge will go to a corner of the. courtroom. So, what are what situation. would they request that? Um, it's just. when they don't want a juror, like. usually like problems with something. that's happening, that they don't really. want the jurors to know. So, there's. white noise playing, right? But some of. the sidebars are included in the court. transcripts because they're not sealed.

like it's not it's not confidential. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, they don't want. the jurors to know in to hear. Okay. But. you guys also couldn't. No, they play. white noise. Yeah. But but with the. transcript, you know what we said. Yes. So this is included in the court. transcript for that day. But the problem. was attorney Donaldson is questioning. and he's pointing out what he believes. are inconsistencies. So he has the. witness's testimony from an interview. that the witness did in 2024 with the. prosecutors and then his recent.

testimony like a few hours ago and. they're saying there's slight. inconsistencies. I see. Oh, that's why he was so. confident because everything is based. off that 2024. Yeah. So, he's saying. like the witness allegedly in the 2024. interview said that he felt jealous once. when Shawn Combmes and Cassie were. having intimate relations without him. participating. But then this time he. said that he was never jealous when.

Shawn Combmes was having intimate. relations with Cassie because they would. go into the bedroom for hours at a time. Right? So, he was trying to point out. that inconsistency, but he had that. paper of the original interview on the. podium, which I said is right next to. the jurors. Okay. Uhhuh. Now, the judge. is asking him because the judge. requested a sidebar. All right. Do you. have the document like right in front of. the jury that you're reading from? I. have it to the side so I can read. You. know, I'm I'm trying to make sure that I. You can't do that. They can't see the. document, Judge. It's right in front of.

the juror. Okay. Prosecutor Comey says, "Your honor, I just realized that Mr. Donaldson had his papers on the bar. right in front of the jury throughout. the cross- examination." Like literally, they can see it that close. I don't It's. really close. I don't know if any of. them were trying to read it. I don't. think anyone read it. And I I'm sure. like you'd have to have some attorney. Donaldson tries to explain. I'll do. whatever I can to make sure that the. juror can't see it. It wasn't my. intention to do that. So, it's clear. about that. And just the rest of the. cross- examination is oh that's what.

they want to discuss like oh is that. paper visible to them? Okay. And then uh. the rest of the cross- examination is. uneventful except the whole time he's. getting stared down by Jean Combmes. And. Shawn Combmes is doing the three-point. look, the witness, what I think is the. jury, and then. Donaldson. It's like he's watching a. third party at this point. He's jotting. down notes. He's got his eyebrows. furrowed. In fact, anytime the defense, this isn't even just attorney Donaldson,

anytime the defense looks a little less. prepared or their objection gets denied. or their applications get denied, the. way Sean comes looks at them is like, "What am I paying you for?". Like, it's very like hello. Yeah. Like, it just looks like hello. And I do think. like it's unfortunate and I think it's. interesting. how fast emotions change in a courtroom. because I when we do research on these.

cases and we're reading court. transcripts and even when we're watching. live streams of everything that's. happening in court, it's so very easy to. hold on to emotions. I don't know why. Right? But when you're in the I think. it's like energy when there's a. collective energy that shifts, it's so. hard to fight against it. So during the. direct examination by the prosecutors, it was really depressing to hear about. all the times that he alleges that he. saw violence against Cassie. And it just.

it it's shocking. It's salacious, but. it's really heavy. Yeah. And then the. minute that cross-examination starts, it. just feels like just like kind of. frustrating and confusing. So it's like. very weird how many emotions I feel like. people go through just watching what's. happening in court. We're not even. involved, you know, but to watch it's. like a collective emotion. So it I do. think it's frustrating that that emotion. dissipates. And I wonder if that same. thing happens for the jurors,

right? If they feel like a sense of. anger and like h this is bad and then. the cross-examination happens and. they're like, what just happened? Mhm. And so they lose that, oh my gosh, this. like emotional testimony and it just. turns into what was that. Maybe that's. their strategy. Maybe. I don't know. Yeah. Now, during the prosecutor's. rebuttal, um Comey asks a series of. questions that do kind of um do what I. think she she intended. I mean, there.

were statements. She's asking questions, but there were statements made. She. says, "So, let's break it down." So, she's back. Mhm. Who would direct you and Cassie to rub. baby oil on each other? Shawn Combmes. And who would direct Cassie to perform. old sex on you? Shawn Combmes. Who would. direct you and Cassie to have. intercourse with each other? Shawn. Combmes. Is Shawn Combmes the same man. who threw a liquor bottle across the. room when Cassie asked him to wait a. minute? Yes. Is that the same man that. grabbed her by the hair and dragged her. to the bedroom? Yes. Is that the same.

man who called her while you heard. her say I'm sorry and heard smacking. sounds? Yes. Is that the same man who. then came out of that same room and. asked you and told you and Cassie in. essence to have intimate relations. again? In essence, yes. There is a brief. argument on the fact that the witness. did send a text message to Cassie saying. that he loves Cassie and Shawn Combmes, which in another redirect, prosecutor. Comey asks him, "Why did you send that. text message?" Because I was trying to. get her to respond to my messages. She. would not respond to my messages, and.

the only way that I could see if she was. okay was to try and bait her into making. her. And Mr. Combmes believed that I had. no problem with what he had done so that. they would invite me back so that I. could see for myself that she was okay. No further questions and then uh. attorney Donaldson moves to strike. And. there is um here's the thing about. prosecutor Comey. I don't know this. woman. Um I think so far I I really. don't know anything about her background. from what I've seen in like the past. week. She's so sharp and she does not. emote. When she talks she does not.

emote. I mentioned that in the last. episode. However, if you say something. that I think that she perceives as dumb, which is probably everything cuz she's. seems very intelligent, she emotes. So, she asks this last question, not even. going to the podium. So, it's like a. quick rebuttal that she does on the. prosecutor's table. So, she's at the. very first row and Donaldson is behind. her and then I'm behind them. Not like. immediately, but like all the way in the. back of the room. So, I can see both of. their faces when they turn around. Like. when Comey turns around, I can see her.

face. Right. Yeah. And uh he says move. to strike. And she wait what did she. say? She said like oh why did you send. that text message? And then he says I. just wanted to make sure that she was. okay. And she says no further questions. Donaldson says move to strike. The judge. says on what basis? Donaldson says. nonresponsive. Right. He wants the. jurors to forget this information. Right. And he's like on what grounds? And I guess whatever grounds he's saying. doesn't make sense because Comey turns.

around and the way she looks at. him. I wish I had a more professional. way of like describing it. But it's like. hello. Like this is ridiculous. Like. like no. Like like are you thinking? Are. you thinking? Am I thinking? Who's. thinking right now? Uh-huh. Like that's. the vibe she gives me. Yeah. So and then. she says it's totally responsive to why. he did send that text, your honor. And. so the judge. overrules and it's just like very. interesting the way like she never.

emotes until an attorney does something. which she might perceive as dumb and. then suddenly she cannot hide her emote. Her emote is emoting so strong like it. it like is a lot really. Yeah. It's like. a are you dumb look like I don't know. how else to describe it. That's the So. she has two modes either blank effective. communicator but blank or are you dumb. And then what did Donos say or do after? It was just overruled. Okay. Yeah. And. then that was the end of this. Yeah. But.

it was um it seemed very tense for the. defense during that time. But not as. tense as it's about to get because after. this cross there's a quick break a group. and we go outside the courtroom and. there's this little I don't even really. know what to call it. It's just like a. an open area and then the elevators and. the restroom. But in that open area, there's a group of maybe 10 people and. they're standing outside right outside. the courtroom and they're either arms on. each other's shoulders, kind of like a.

football huddle style. Some of them are. just holding hands and they are in a. prayer circle. At least that's what it. looks like. And it's all Shawn Combmes's. family because now Oh, the whole family. went out already. Yeah. Oh, during the. break, you said. Yes. and they are in a. prayer circle huddled together because. Cassie is about to start testifying and. that is where I leave you and I am going. to go through Cassie's direct and her. cross- examination which actually hasn't. happened at the time that I'm filming.

this. I literally have to go to court in. like 2 hours. So, that'll be the next. part of this everything that's been. going on with the trial. What are your. thoughts? Let me know in the comments. And again, these are just my. perceptions, my observations, my. opinions. And I do think that attorney. Donaldson is I think he will accomplish. he has accomplished probably more in one. day than I will do in a lifetime. I do. think that it's very unfair that he was. added on to the case so late. I think if.

he had a year as some of the other. attorneys on the defense had, I think he. would have I don't want to say he would. have nailed the cross because that's. weird, but I think he would have he. would have performed at his normal. scale, you know, because I've only heard. very good things about him, but that was. just my opinion of this very isolated. event. So, what are your thoughts? Leave. it in the comments and I will see you in. the next one. [Music].