He Spin Kicked A Woman Nearly Killing Her - All Because She Gave Him A “Dirty Look”

Bada bing, bada. Do you know what a bima crime is? No. So, in South Korea, there's something. called bhima crimes. And the basic. translation is don't ask questions. Like, don't ask questions type of crime. And it was kind of weird when I was. first researching this cuz I'm like, okay, parents, I even asked my mom and. dad like, what does that even mean? Why. do people call it a don't ask questions. crime? and they said, you know, there's. been a rise of crimes that are so. random, so out of this world that it.

doesn't make human logical sense. So, it's almost this don't ask me why they. did it because nobody knows. Don't even. ask the perpetrator why they did it. because it's not going to be a logical. answer. Mima crimes. And these crimes. are really, really outrageous. Today, we're going to be talking about two of. the most recent ones that went viral in. South Korea, and they are outrageous. One of them has CCTV footage that. accompanies the case. So, let's talk. about May 22nd, 2022. So, basically a.

year ago, it's 5:00 in the morning in. South Korea. A 26-year-old woman who is. known as Minnie, she was on her way. home. She's walking home and I think. every woman has made this walk back to. their apartment when the sun isn't up. and you know the feeling. Your shoulders. are tense. They're up to your ears. Your. blood is pumping. There's adrenaline. rushing and your head is checking left. and right non-stop. And as you get. closer and closer to your apartment, you. feel a sense of relief, if you will. You're like, "Okay, almost there. Just a.

few more minutes. Thank God, right?" And. then you open that door to the apartment. building and some of that tension is. released. Not all the tension, of course. not. I mean, not all of it is released. until you're home safe and the door is. locked, but at least you're in this. well-lit lobby. You're in front of the. elevator. You've pushed for the elevator. button. You're in front of CCTV cameras. You're in familiar surroundings. Your. family is just a few floors up waiting. for you to get home. Minnie presses the. call button for the elevator. There is.

CCTV footage of this for those watching. on YouTube or Spotify. I'm going to. include most of it. Now, Minnie makes it. to the elevators. She's on her phone and. pressing the call button when all of a. sudden a man in his 30s named Ehu comes. up behind her. And you know when someone. comes up behind you, you kind of turn to. at least look at them, just to be aware. of your surroundings. Minnie doesn't. even have time to do that. It all. happens so fast. He rushes up behind. her, swings his leg up in the air in.

what is often known as a roundhouse kick. where you do like a semicircle with your. leg as and it's gaining momentum and you. kick down and kicks her on the back of. the head and just. just looking at the CCTV footage, this. is a built man. I mean, a man his size. who seems to work out can probably kick. someone with 1,000 to about 1,200 lb of. force on average. Let me show you the. video. [music].

[music]. So Minnie is kicked in the back of the. head. She stumbles forward and the front. of her head hits the building wall. So. now she's slumped on the ground and. quickly she's thinking of ways to. protect herself from this random unknown.

attacker. She brings her knees up to her. chest. She tries to cover her head with. her elbows. But he's not done with her. He kicks her on the head five more. times. She goes from being curled up in. this fetal position to now being. unconscious and laying stiff like she's. stiff as a board on the elevator floor. He [snorts] kicked her out. Yes. Unconscious. Yes. all on CCTV footage. And he knows. this. Everywhere in South Korea is. basically covered with CCTV cameras. He. takes her phone, picks her up like a rag.

doll, just using one arm. Imagine how. much strength. I mean, she looks to be, let's say, average weight, 120 lbs in. South Korea. He's picking her up with. one arm, like a little suitcase. That's. terrifying. Just think about how much. force he's able to kick with if that. he's that physically strong. He picks. her up and takes her to a corner of the. building that has no CCTV cameras, a. blind spot. He is there with her. unconscious body for 7 minutes. For 7.

minutes, he is with her. And these 7. minutes have been such a huge debate in. South Korea. What the hell happened in. those 7 minutes? What did he do to her? Will the victim ever even know the truth. of what happened? But not only that, it. was revealed that he had followed her. home. There's CCTV footage on the street. of the two of them. And whenever Minnie. stops to check her phone on the street, you can see him in the back like little. stalker. Every time she stops, he would. stop. He would hide behind a car. He. would hide behind someone to not be seen.

by many. The footage is I mean it's it's. terrifying. It's just straight up a. predator trying to hunt down his victim. But all for what? Literally, why did he. just want to stalk someone that day? Was. he stalking her for a long time? He said. he did all of this because they made eye. contact on the street in passing and he. didn't like the way that she looked at. him. Wait, this is not targeted. It's a stranger. What? He said that they passed each other on.

the street and walking opposite. direction. So, they're facing facing. each other and they made brief eye. contact. She didn't smile or look happy. He was upset about that. You're kidding. He followed her home and. attacked her and did god knows what for. those unaccounted for seven minutes. That's why they call it a bima crime. because Koreans are like, "I don't know. what to tell you." Like, if someone. asked me, "Why do you think this. perpetrator did this? I don't know what. to tell you.". Wow, that's terrifying.

The only clue that nizens could find to. try and figure out what happened in. those seven minutes is from Lee himself. Lee was actually seen on CCTV cameras. leaving the apartment building. Both of. his hands are in front of him and he. makes like this quick motion. He's not. facing camera, so it's hard to say what. he's doing exactly, but netzens believe. he was seen leaving the crime scene. while zipping up his pants.

[music]. [music]. As always, full show notes are available. at rotten mango podcast.com. There's a. lot going on in today's episode, so. let's just get straight into it. But I. do want to give a quick side note. This. is not like a woman versus man case or. conversation, nor is this a conversation.

about just South Korean men or South. Korean crimes. Men are not safe from. violence. They're not safe from gender-. based violence either. I don't want to. dismiss any of that. I think all forms. of violence are bad. And I've been. really lucky to have really amazing male. viewers who have been nothing but. respectful and passionate about helping. women feel more safe and comfortable in. this world. So hopefully we can keep it. that way in the comments. But uh let's. get started. At 5:21 a.m., a resident of. the apartment building walks in and. instead of heading straight to the.

elevators, they go to the area where the. resident mailboxes were kept, and they. notice a woman on the floor. So, imagine. you're walking straight to the. mailboxes. It's kind of, you know, the. woman on the floor is in their. peripheral vision. And I think if you. just take a quick pass by like. peripheral glance, it's not uncommon for. people to be passed out in South Korea. I mean, even in apartment stairwells, there's kind of a huge drinking culture. there. and it's the weekend. It's a. pretty safe country. But even then, there were a few odd things that made. the resident take a double tick. Like,

wait, wait, wait. What's going on? First. of all, there was someone laying in. front of the emergency stair entrance. That's weird. And usually, you have a. lot of men that are passed out, but. women typically don't pass out in. public. And most obvious, once they took. a second glance, they noticed that her. face was badly beaten. Her shirt was. lifted up, her pants were unzipped and. unbuckled, and it was stated in reports. that it was unbuckled to the point where. pubic hair was exposed. Oh my god. And later, once her jeans were taken off.

by the medical staff, inside her. underwear was just only on one leg. It's as if someone had tried putting. them back on or hadn't taken them fully. back off before putting her jeans back. on. That is crazy. So, she wasn't even. hidden in like a room or anything. It. was still somewhat public area like. people can pass by easily. Easily. It's just a blind spot in CCTV, but it's not a hidden area. It's not a. room. It's There's like a glass doors, but they're glass doors. Wow.

Yeah. So, Minnie is immediately rushed. to the hospital. She had a brain damage, a traumatic brain hemorrhage that took 4. months of treatment and copious. medications. She had to have stitches on. her head. There were bruises all over. her face. She lost sensation in her. right leg, particularly her right ankle. Doctors weren't even certain that she. would even be able to walk after all of. this. It would take weeks of physical. therapy for her to learn how to walk. again. But she still doesn't know how. long she's going to be on meds. She.

doesn't know how long she's going to. have PTSD and all these migraines that. come with traumatic brain injuries. And. I'm not sure if this is for the worst or. for the better, but she doesn't remember. a single thing about the incident. Not. the kick, not the person behind her in. the elevator, not a single thing. She. woke up, realized she's in the hospital. She didn't even know why she was there. She's like, I'm in so much pain. What. happened? She had something called disassociative. amnesia. Authorities realized that she.

would have no idea what happened to her. in the seven unaccounted for minutes. The only person that would know is Ehnu. and he was currently hiding out in a. motel room with his girlfriend. Yeah, girlfriend. He He's like open mouth. right now. Okay, so after the attack, Lee runs back home to his girlfriend and. tells her that he needs help ASAP. The. police are after me. I need your help to. hide myself because all of these places. in South Korea like motel, hotels, they're really good about keeping your. information. You cannot check in without.

a bunch of information needed. So he's. like, "You need to help me. you need to. get me a motel room. I'm not sure if he. told her the extent of his crimes. I. doubt it. But either way, she helps him. book a room at a local motel. And the. whole time he's like one eye out the. curtain, peeping out the window, glancing left and right, just so. anxious. See, so he has the idea of the. consequences that's coming. Oh, yeah. But in that moment, he did something so. blatant. Yes. That's so terrifying. Right. So he knows.

the consequences, but he still did it in. that moment. Yeah. And he I mean I don't think I. think he knew the consequences, but I. don't think he cared that much. And I'll. tell you why. So the girlfriend felt. like something was off. Lee really isn't. the type to be stressed out about the. police looking for him. That's the type. of person he is. He was practically a. career criminal. He was in his 30s, but. he had 18 previous criminal charges. Even before he had become a legal adult, he had been in trouble with the law. In. 2007, he was arrested at just 15 years.

old for being the leader of a youth. gang. So, they would go around. committing robberies, assaults, and if. anyone messed with them, their specialty. was to kick them in the face, literally. So, I don't know how much the girlfriend. knew about his criminal past, but there. were some elaborate crimes. When Lee was. just 21 years old, he somehow came into. contact with someone who was trafficked. into sex work. So, she's a minor and he. either convinced her or threatened her. to give up some of her clients. So, Lee.

would take her phone, ask the clients, he would pretend to be her, ask the. clients to meet up at random motel. And. when they showed up, he would burst into. the room pretending to be her older. brother and scream, "She's a minor. I'm. going to call the police." And for good. measure, he would kick them in their. faces. He would demand money, otherwise. he would kill them or call the cops. And. they would typically cough up money. I'm. not sure how many times he did this and. was able to get away with it, but. eventually he was caught and he was. arrested. Even right now in this motel. room hiding from the police, Lee had.

just gotten out of prison not too long. ago. He tried to get a job. He was like, "You know what? This time I'm going to. change things cuz this guy has been in. and out of prison his whole life." He's. like, "This time I'm going to get a job. I'm going to do things the right way.". So, he becomes a bouncer at a club. Now, just think about the bouncers at clubs. and bars that you've seen and think. about their physical stature. He's. built. He's a big guy. Now, he gets. fired promptly from this club because he. just kept trying to take drunk girls. home. He would use his authority as a.

bouncer and he would try to take. advantage of them. And he would do this. very blatantly in front of everyone in. front of the managers, the bosses, the. bartenders, other clubgoers. Like, he. wasn't he felt no fear. He wasn't hiding. it. So whatever he did now to make him. this nervous, this angsty to the point. where he couldn't even sit still in this. motel room, whatever he did, it must. have been really freaking bad. So Lee. asked to borrow his girlfriend's phone. and later she would find out that he. would be looking up these key words.

Attempted murder plann. attempted murder bleed to death. Assaults nearby assault leads to death. random Muima crimes in the area. Lee was. arrested 3 days later on May 25th. When. he was brought in by investigators, he. essentially played games with them. Okay, I'm just going to be real with. you. Just his cocky attitude about all. of this was so infuriating to netzens. He bluntly stated, "Yeah, I attacked.

her. Honestly, I was super drunk and I. attacked her because we passed by each. other. She gave me this dirty look. I. think she even muttered something under. her breath. So, she started it. He stated that he was so drunk he didn't. even know or remember if she was even a. female. He's like, "I I wasn't trying to. attack a female. It wasn't a gender. based crime, guys. I was so drunk. I. didn't like the way that this person. looked at me. That's it.". The police did not believe him for a. single second. They found CCTV footage.

of him following her her home for at. least 10 minutes. And he's hiding. He's. stopping every time that she stops. He's. keeping his distance. Does that sound. like someone who was so drunk he. couldn't even tell that she was a woman? The police also don't believe his whole. drunk excuse. I mean, they think that he. was trying to be smart. In Korea, there. is a clause in the law that states if. the perpetrator is not in their right. mind and is not consciously committing a. crime, that could kind of factor into. how harsh or how big of a sentence that. they get. The police don't buy it. He's.

acting as if he was so drunk that night. he was out of his mind. But even in the. CCTV footage inside the apartment. building, remember how he picks her up. like a ragd doll? Well, one of her shoes fell off. Then. her purse falls and he goes and he keeps. bending down to pick them up, indicating. he doesn't want anyone to know of his. crime or look for her while he's off. doing god knows what for 7 minutes. So. they ask him a few questions about his. crime, and he just gave such ridiculous. answers to the whole thing. They asked. what he did once he dragged her to the.

back entrance away from CCTV cameras. And he said, "Well, I was just lightly. tapping her for 7 minutes trying to get. her to wake up." And going back to his. drunk excuse, it's presumed the police. showed him footage of, you know, him. hiding while stalking her all the way to. the apartment. And he stated that he was. so drunk, the reason that he stopped and. just hid behind these cars wasn't. because he was following anyone. It was. because he kept wanting to throw up, you. know, out of courtesy to the general. public. He didn't want to do it in the. middle of the street. And this part is.

wild, but the police just kind of took. his word for it. I mean, let's be real. Anyone with any sort of sense can tell. that everything about this case screams. essay being the main motivation. He. followed her because he wanted to do. something very bad to her. He kicked her. unconscious because he wanted to take. advantage of her body. All the police. need to do is even consider how the. victim was found at the crime scene. How. he had dragged her away with all of her. clothes on properly. Then he took her. where there are no cameras and suddenly.

her pants are found unbuckled, unzipped, her underwear had been taken off and was. just on one leg. Now consider the facts. and you could easily charge him with. essay on top of attempted murder. But. the police stated without the victim's. testimony or an eyewitness or CCTV. camera footage, it would be nearly. impossible to charge him with essay, especially since he was denying that he. could ever essay anyone. How? Why? What. do you mean you could never do it? Is. there a medical reason you could never. do it? And he said, "No, I can never do.

that because I have a girlfriend.". Oh, yeah. Cuz you were just like a. morally upstanding person. He literally said that. Side note, the. hospital stated that they didn't get any. DNA from the victim's body because they. were so busy trying to save her life. Come on. But they did have her jeans and. her underwear, which were tested very. carelessly. So, it's going to be tested. again. But the very first time that they. tested her jeans and underwear, it was.

like the worst job I'd ever seen. So, they tested for DNA only on the elastic. rubber band part of the underwear. So, you know, like the top part that helps. it stay put. Mhm. That's what they tested. They didn't. check inside or the whole underwear. They also said since he picked her up, his DNA was bound to be all over the. jeans. So, they only initially tested. the button and buckle of the jeans for. his fingerprints. His fingerprints were. not on there. And because of that, they. said that they weren't going to charge. him with essay because they had no. proof. This is insane to me. Even the.

victim, Minnie, stated that she had been. bleeding from the rectum for about a. month after the assault, and the. authorities were like, "Well, we don't. know if that's connected to the assault. or not.". I feel like as a middle schooler, I. could have put two and two together. Like as an elementary school student, it's like, okay, A plus B equals C. What are you talking about? Minnie said. that she felt so helpless. The. prosecutors were hoping to get 20 years. in prison for Lee, which honestly feels.

weak considering his lengthy criminal. record and his lack of remorse. So, he's. getting charged the first time with. attempted murder. Now, the problem is. that's not really that good of a charge. attempted murder. They're looking for 20. years cuz she's not really dead is kind. of I guess how they see it. That's crazy. to me. Like you tried to kill someone. Why does it matter if you failed or. didn't succeed? Mhm. That's wild. I think it should be. charged just like murder, right? But uh. attempted murder is about 20 years. And.

on top of that, he's using this I was so. drunk it was this impulsive thing as an. excuse. That was his motive. Whereas if. his motive was essay, it's a much. harsher charge that he's looking at and. probably a much larger sentencing. and the court can couldn't prove that. he's motive is essay. Yeah. So with the attempted murder. charge, he's saying, you know, I was so. out of my mind. I was so drunk. I wasn't. thinking clearly. I was intoxicated. With essay, it's like this is so. premeditated. You followed her for the. sole purpose of trying to do something.

to her and then you did this for the. sole purpose of doing something to her. Mhm. So, it's a lot more sinister, but. they're like, "We don't have proof that. there was any essay.". Yeah. So, the first trial came and went. He didn't even get 20 years. The judge. sentenced him to 12 years. 12? Why? He. wrote a quote apologetic letter to the. court system. Minnie didn't even know. about this letter. She found out online. that he submitted a letter. And she. said, "I wondered who he was apologizing.

to. I haven't gotten an apology yet. I. haven't forgiven him yet. who is he. apologizing to? And the fact that the judge took that. into consideration for a more lenient. sentence is just beyond the world. I. mean, nizens were so baffled by this. Meanwhile, Minnie can't sleep more than. 2 hours a night. She takes a handful of. sleeping pills every night. She can't go. outside on the street without having so. much anxiety. She said it feels like. she's drowning. She hasn't known a day. of peace since the attack. Everywhere.

she goes, even at home, she's constantly. looking over her shoulder, literally, because this happened behind her. She. always feels like there's someone there, someone watching her. I don't know how. she's ever going to have a normal life. again. Since the incident, she lost 20. lb. And each time that Lee would appear. in court, he looks wellfed, well slept, well rested, and he's actually gaining. weight. He seems to be enjoying himself.

In fact, a fellow cell made of his came. forward to state that in prison, Lee was. talking about how he was going to break. free the first chance they got and the. first thing he wanted to do was go and. kill Minnie. What's crazy is the judge knows about. this and gave him 12 years. And while all this is happening to. Minnie, his identity was actually. protected by the Korean law. So. mainstream media, they could not every. his face was blurred everywhere. They.

couldn't say his name. They couldn't. They were calling him like Mr. A. So, South Korea has really intense privacy. laws, which are great in some aspects, but not so much in this case. So, I. understand why they would protect. victim's identities, and I totally get. that, and that's very I think it's very. interesting and cool that they do that, but for perpetrators, what is the point? Yeah. Especially someone like that is a. danger to society. That's what they're saying. So, Korea is. saying, "Okay, if it's like a petty. theft and you don't want to ruin this. person's life, we get it. But if you're. talking about attempted murder charges,

things that people don't really I mean. maybe you learn and grow, but the. general public still should be made. aware of this person. Mhm. And if there's potential essay involved, yeah, women out there should know, who. are you protecting? Mhm. And when he gets out in 12 years, he's. going to be 42 years old. You think that. he's just going to suddenly be like, you. know what, I'm going to go and be a. law-abiding citizen and not attack. women? That doesn't make sense. Even the court.

stated that when he was tested for. psychopathy, he re it's like the. psychopath test. He received a high. score of 27 out of 40. They also stated. that he tested positive for high risk of. reoffending. Yet they're protecting his identity from. what? And the only reason that we know. his identity now is because of a. YouTuber. Yeah. So there is a very famous, well-known Korean YouTuber. um this was. his channel. He worked with the victim,

Minnie, who is anonymous. That's not her. real name. And she was telling him about. all of her pain. And with her. permission, because she knows who this. man is, he released all of the. information about this guy, his height, his weight, his name, even his blood. type, which is everything that Minnie. knew. And he is facing criminal charges. potentially because of this. Yeah. Yeah. And there was a whole discussion. of like is this should this be allowed? Should citizens and victims be allowed. to release the perpetrators names.

Yeah, it's the whole thing. So anyway, Minnie said the victim keeps questioning. everything. Victims will never forget. what happened to them. It makes you feel. like your entire existence has been. wiped away. So why should the victims. feel so small when the perpetrator seems. to be able to retain their dignity? To make Yeah. To make matters worse, on. top of all of this, former friends and. acquaintances of Lee came forward to. state that Lee has always been like this. with women. One former friend said that.

Lee would lurk around in playgrounds at. night, and he would wait for women to. pass by on their way home. So, there's. like in Korea, there's a lot of. playgrounds under apartment buildings. for all the kids to play at. And he. would know where all the blind spots on. the outside CCTV cameras were. He would. walk up behind women and kick them in. the back of the knee so they would fall. Sometimes he would do other things to. them allegedly and sometimes he just. wanted to kick them for the act of. degrading, hurting, and having power.

over a woman. That's why I'm saying like he must done. this like. how like in the past, right? This is not. his first time. No. So how many victims in the past that's. nobody ever talked about until this. case? And how many of them don't even. remember what happened because he worked. as a bouncer at a club? How many of them. maybe did he drug allegedly? Or how many of them has gone to the. police and they didn't do anything about. it? They're like, "Well, you don't remember? How is it a crime?". Yeah, we can't find him. And they're still protecting his.

identity. They're like, "Wait, what if he gets out. and wants to change his life? We got to. give him a chance. He's had like 19. chances.". Lee's former girlfriend said he always. fantasized her about having. non-consensual activities in the. bedroom. He got off on the idea of. coercing women to do things that he knew. that they clearly didn't want to do. But. the most damaging information that came. out was a former coworker of Lee said. that he had some terrifying. conversations with him. Lee would always. brag about how he knew how to get away.

with essay. The key to essay, he said, was via the. rectum. He said the rectum isn't as. frequently tested for DNA evidence and. even if DNA testing comes back, it's. very difficult to prosecute. And right before the crime, Lee. allegedly told a friend of his that he. wanted to quote be an animal, be a. caveman with this victim that he saw. Basically, I guess the more direct translation is, yeah, he wanted to essay her is kind of.

the vibe. And even after the crime, he. told the friend, "I did it. I did it. I. just did her. So that coupled with all the other. evidence, the investigators were forced. to recheck the clothing for more DNA. evidence. Lee's DNA was found in five. locations of of Minnie's jeans, three. inside the jeans, and this time he's. being charged with essay. Prosecutors were requesting 35 years in. prison, and Minnie stated, "I don't. remember what happened to me. I don't.

have any memory of the incident, so how. is I supposed to know if or how I was. assaulted? I mean, who wants to admit. that they're a victim of assault? Her doctor testified in court that. Minnie had general anal tearing in. multiple directions. Minnie said that. she wonders if all of this would have. just been better if she died because now. she lives in constant fear every single. day. So finally May 31st, 2023, the. judge sentenced him to 20 years in.

prison, which is eight more years, but. really not enough. I don't know why he. didn't get 35 years. He's still only. going to be what, 51 years old when he. gets out. His criminal identity, his. personal information will be made public. for at least 10 years after his release. He will be restricted from working with. children for 10 years after his release. But after that, I mean, it's free game, I guess, for him. And honestly, it's. just not good enough. Lee appealed his. sentence saying it was way too harsh. He. said, "Considering I was drunk, I. believe the appropriate time that I.

should be in prison is 3 years instead. of 20 years." He said, "3 years.". What's up with this? Like, consider I. was drunk. Yeah. Yeah. Which it works against women. If. women are drunk when they're assaulted, it works against them. But when men are. drunk when they're committing crimes, it's like, "Well, I wasn't in my right. mind. And even though there seems to be. justice, if you can even call it that, it just felt like women were such an. afterthought in the entire justice.

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starts with a man named Sung Min. Zung. Min was 26 years old and he had just. been diagnosed with schizophrenia. Now, I just want to put a quick disclaimer. out there. Schizophrenia does not make. someone evil. There are tons of people. with schizophrenia that would never hurt. anyone else. If we went by that logic, then not having schizophrenia would also. make you evil because there have been so. many cases of people without any mental. health diagnosis that have committed. atrocious crimes like Lee. So, I will. say that and I will say though that I do.

think that all mental illnesses, they do. take a toll on people's lives. And I. imagine schizophrenia is one that is. especially hard to live with. I really. admire those people that diligently try. their best to take care of themselves. and the people around them. And it's not. easy. So, I get that. But, Sun's mom. tried her absolute best to help her son. She took him to a psychologist in 2008, and she didn't really know what it was. there was just something a bit different. about her son. She said that he seemed.

to have beliefs that just weren't. aligned or grounded in reality. And when. he talked, it felt like he he wasn't. able to filter his thoughts. It it was. almost like as a thought would come into. his mind, he would blurt it out, and it. was just this disorganized, jumbled up. mess coming out. So, she takes him to the hospital. The. psychologist told Sungmin's mom that his. schizophrenia was actually one of the. worst cases that he had ever seen in his. whole career. Tungmin was at the point.

where he was so far removed from reality. that he couldn't mentally take care of. himself. Self-care was not even a. thought that came to his mind. And I'm. not just talking about skincare or. exercise. Sung needed full-time care. He. needed someone to prepare his meals, to. remind him to shower, to clean the. house. But the doctor said, "Don't lose. hope." Like most people with. schizophrenia, Sunmine might improve. drastically if we can develop a strict. routine that he sticks to. We need to. make sure that we get him on meds and he. does everything that he's supposed to be.

doing. Have him take these meds, stick. to a routine. It's not going to be easy, but we should be progressing. We should. be okay. Sun's mom is doing everything she can. Everything the doctor tells her to do, she's trying to do it. I mean, she tried. everything short of holding him down and. force-feeding him medication. He just. refused to listen to her. He didn't take. any of her advice. His mental condition. was worsening. And in 2011, he was. hospitalized for 6 months. And this.

would just kind of set the pattern of. his life. He would ignore his mom, get. worse and worse until he's hospitalized. for about 6 months. It was like a reset. button. Then he would get out and the. whole process would happen all over. again. I mean, I sympathize with him. because it must have been really hard. for him and also his family. In 2013, he. was hospitalized again. Then in 2016. Now, at this point, when he's released. from the hospital in 2016, he's 34 years. old. When he's discharged, the doctors. recommended that he live with full-time. care. His parents are like, "Well, we.

can't really afford that." And also, no. one's going to genuinely care for our. son as much as we do, so we are going to. be his full-time care. Everything fell apart when Sunman and. his dad gets into this huge fight. There's no information about what the. fight was about. But afterwards, Sunman. and his dad's relationship was just. completely shattered. It was broken. Sun. packs his bags and without a second. thought, he elopes. So eloped is a term.

in the medical field for a patient who. basically goes MIA when they most. definitely should not be MIA. It's more. extreme than an adult running away or. even a minor running away. A person who. alopes in the medical sense is someone. who physically or mentally relies on. full-time care and assistance in order. to function well in society. You cannot. just run away into the sunset and live. happily ever after. An eloped person is. someone who has a high chance of hurting. themselves or hurting others if they're. not found. That's why if you report someone missing.

and they're an adult, the police will. usually ask you, "Okay, are they elderly. or do they have medical concerns that we. need to be aware of?". his psychologist, his parents, they. start looking for him. The police get. involved and he's considered a high. priority missing person's case. Now, Sunman is off the radar with his parents. and the medical staff. He has no access. to shelter, bathrooms, showers, and the. most concerning thing, he has no access. to his medication, and he's surviving on. the streets of Hor, but just just. barely. He gets an entry-level job at a. restaurant. And when he's not at work,

he would just mindlessly roam roam. around the streets of Sor. He would. sleep on benches. He would sleep on. sidewalks. His work gave him enough. money to buy himself food every day, but. that's it. He doesn't have money for a. motel, for anything. He lives like this. for months. He has no home to shower in, no bed to sleep in, no clothes to change. into. He didn't even bring things when. he ran away. I mean, I feel a little bit. of compassion for this guy because this. situation is it seems horrible, but the.

reality is he had a loving and. supportive home that he could always. return to. Most people in his shoes. don't even have that. His parents are. hopelessly looking for him. The situation got so bad that Sun's. delusions led him to believe that he. didn't actually have schizophrenia. Everyone was trying to convince him that. he did, but for whatever ulterior motive. that they had, but he himself knew that. he did not have it. His mind had. convinced himself that he didn't have. any sort of mental illness. He was.

perfectly healthy and maybe his parents. were out to get him, were out to control. him. He didn't need the support of his. parents or even his doctor. He was. content with his life and he was better. off without them. His co-workers at the. restaurant, on the other hand, were not. so content. At this point, Tong had not. showered since he left his home in. January. It is now May. His lack of. personal hygiene would lead to what is. now dubbed the hygiene incident. The hygiene incident happened May 7th,

2016. So about 6 months, right? And yes, the co-workers had noticed for months. now. They had noticed. They had. whispered about it to one another. They. talked to their friends and families. outside of work. And slowly as the. weather got hotter and hotter, they just. they couldn't take it anymore. They had. to work in this small space with him. And every time they pass by him, they. would hold their breaths trying to avoid. breathing in. Sometimes they would. accidentally rush to put their hands in. front of their mouths. And it's not the.

nicest thing to do, but it it just felt. like instinct, like it just kind of. slammed. You're at a restaurant. Come on. Yeah. And maybe the meaner ones would. crinkle their noses and side eye him a. bit, but overall, everyone tried to. handle it maturely. They talked to each. other about it, and eventually they. talked to the managers about it. May. 5th, the manager pulls Hung aside and. said, "Hey, I didn't want to have to say. this, okay, but your personal hygiene. habits are negatively affecting the. workplace. You've worn the same outfit. every single shift, and if I'm going to.

be honest with you, the customers are. even starting to notice the odor. I'm. going to have to ask you to stick stick. to the dress code for your next shift, which means you're going to have to. shower. You're going to have to change. your clothes." We don't know how Sunmine. reacted to this. He finished the shift, left work, then came back 2 days later. for his next shift in the same exact. outfit. He hadn't showered. He hadn't. changed. He hadn't even washed his. hands. The manager felt bad, but he couldn't. risk losing customers over this. So, he. told Sun Tung, "I'm sorry, but Tungmin,

I'm going to have to move you to the. back of the house. I cannot have you. interacting with customers like this.". Back of the house is restaurant speak. for the kitchen or any space that's. employees only. His manager is honestly. a lot kinder to Hungin than his. co-workers wanted him to be. But I think. the manager was feeling a lot of. sympathy for him. He probably knew that. this job was the only thing filling. Hung's stomach and he didn't want to. fire the guy, so he just put him in a. position that was further away from the. customers. His co-workers aren't too. happy. Now it's an even smaller, more. confined space in the back and like the.

heat of the cooking. And I'm not sure. they felt comfortable serving food by. made by someone who hadn't showered in. so long. Mhm. But they stopped complaining to the. manager. I mean, what more could they. do, right? And I just want to make it. very clear, no one no one complained to. Hungman about his hygiene. The manager. was the only one that talked to him. about it. And he was very delicate. He. was very soft about it. Nobody was rude. to him. None of his co-workers were. like, "Oh god, you stink. What's wrong. with you?" Or, "Ew, go take a shower.". Nobody's They were never aggressive.

They were never rude. I think the whole. thing was handled to the best of. everyone's ability. The manager nicely. stated, "Hey, these are the rules. Please follow them." And when he didn't, he was moved to the back of the house, so to speak. He wasn't even fired. But. Tonging did not appreciate this. He took. it as a demotion. I don't know if there. was a paid demotion involved or in his. mind, he felt like it was a demotion. Either way, Sunung was so hurt about all. of this and he blamed it all on his.

female co-workers. He believed that his female co-workers. had badmouthed him behind his back to. the manager and that was the real reason. for his demotion. It wasn't his not. showering. It wasn't his personal. hygiene. No, that was just the excuse. the manager was making. The female. colleagues probably made up some crazy. lies about him. Look, I don't know why. he blamed his female co-workers. specifically, but he wholeheartedly. believed that these women were the cause. of his demotion and therefore they were.

ruining his life. He thought about this. non-stop for an entire week. He would. work himself up when he thought about. these random female co-workers who made. it their life mission to make his. existence harder. It's like he wanted to. feel angry. He wanted to feel like. someone was out to get him. He couldn't. get this out of his mind. And then on. May 15th, something else happened. Sung. was walking down the street when he. stopped and noticed something was on his. shoe. A woman had walked by and flicked. her cigarette butt at him.

The story might not even be true, but. according to Hungman, in his mind, she. did it on purpose to either a make his. day worse, or maybe she wanted to light. him on fire. Even in reality, if this. did really happen, she probably flicked. it on the ground and it just happened to. land on or near his shoe. She might not. have even noticed it landed there. Yeah. Like, I cannot imagine how. accurate you have to be to like. flick it at someone. on the shoe, right? It's not something. you can easily do.

And I feel like if you were to flick it. at someone, there would be other things. accompanying like harsh words or some. sort of look or glare, like a. a fight me type of action versus just. like a let me run. Yeah. So, this guy was at his boiling point. He felt like his female co-workers were. conspiring to get him fired. The woman. on the street was trying to light him on. fire, burn him alive. And after the. cigarette butt incident, he said it's. like he started waking up to how much. women were out to get him. I think. that's what so he he said he started.

noticing everything that all the women. in this world were doing to make him. miserable. Sometimes they would just. ignore his existence, which felt rude. You know, they wouldn't move out of the. way when he's walking directly in their. line of sight, which like, okay, if you. think about it, he's walking directly in. their line of sight. Why should they. move? Right? But even rder were all the. women that would deliberately walk slow. to make him late for work. He said the. women would get together in groups in. front of him on the sidewalk and wonk so.

slowly and they would talk and giggle. and take pictures and step by step be. crawling down the sidewalk and they knew. they knew that he was standing behind. them and that he was running late for. work and they did this on purpose to. make him late for work. They were conspiring with the female. co-workers at work to get him fired. That's not all. He had woken up to just. how cruel women were. He said women. would bump into his shoulder on purpose. on this whole metro. The train they.

would beat him down on the shoulder is. how they he described it. Every single. day they would beat him on the shoulder. In reality, if you've ever been to Tor. and if you've ever taken the train, the. metro is really full, especially during. rush hour. And these women are probably. not trying to touch anyone if I'm going. to be honest with you. No one wants to. make skin-to-skin contact on the metro. So, it's they're being pushed and shoved. themselves and they're not trying to. beat anyone down. So, has a population. of 10 million people. So, the metro.

system is going to be jam-packed all the. time. But to men, every day without. fail, women would get onto the metro. with the sole purpose of beating him on. the shoulder. The ones who weren't there to hit him. were there to stand right in front of. him and block his way. Again, if you've. ever been on a busy train, you know that. there's going to be people inches apart. and they're going to be jam-packed in. there like sardines. No one is standing. between you and the door. They're not. trying to block you. They're just.

standing there because they have to get. somewhere, too. So, all you have to do. is say, "Excuse me." Then you get off. For him, though, the women were blocking. him. The men though, if there were men. standing in front of the door, they were. also probably heading to work, probably. being harassed by their own set of women. NPCs. Like, he never saw men as nuisances. It's just women that were conspiring. against him to ruin his life. Now, I do. want to put a quick disclaimer out. there. I do know that schizophrenia is. often accompanied by a lot of paranoid.

thoughts or beliefs or even. hallucinations. I think the problem that. people have with this is hallucinations. and these paranoid beliefs don't come. out of thin air. They don't just. magically appear in someone's mind. It's. usually already trained by society. There must have already been some sort. of deep hatred for women or this this. conversation about women being nuisances. or out to get men that must have stuck. in his mind to then evolve into this.

huge belief of like every single woman. is literally out to get him. And that's. the problem. So as Hung said, "Woman beat me on the. shoulder in the subway every single day, deliberately blocking my way and walking. slowly to make me late. A woman threw a. cigarette butt on me and I have endured. all of these trivial but very unpleasant. things and I just couldn't stand them. any longer. I just couldn't. I thought I. would die if I stayed like this. So, I.

thought I'd have to kill them first. He. believed before any woman he hurt him. any further, he needed to kill women. So, he plotted his first murder. May. 17th, he took the train to Kangnam. station, which is why this is often. referred to as the Kangnam station. murder. And Kangnam station is one of. the busiest subway stations in all of. Tur. About a 100,000 people pass through. that station per day on average. It's. busy. When he passed through, it's a. Monday night around midnight, so there. are people, but not enough people. So,

it's not rush hour. And no one was. beating down on his shoulders cuz it's. not busy enough that people are packed. like sardines. And if they had, maybe he. might have taken out his sushimi knife. that he had been hiding in his jacket. Side note, sushimi knives are very thin, long, razor sharp knives that are built. for cutting thin slices of fish. It's a. cooking knife. Now, the blade is about. an inch thick and a foot long. For. reference, the average woman is maybe 6. to 10 in in the torso. I'm talking like.

front to back direct line, not waist. measurement. So, if a foot long blade is. stabbed into you, it is long enough to. go through the front of your torso and. out the back. There will be an entrance. and an exit wound. Keep this in mind. Sun starts taking exit 10 out of the. station because there weren't enough. people around to kill anyone in Kungam. station. He walks up the stairs [music]. and it's midnight. It's crisp and he's. [snorts] already kind of laid out a. plan. He just knew that his victim.

needed to be a woman and the time would. be now and the murder weapon would be. the sashimi knife. if he just needed to. find the right location. So, he gets up. to the street level and he starts. looking around and he's looking at any. open businesses and he saw this bar. So, he's like, "Okay, this is perfect." He. entered the bar at around 11:40 p.m. And. just like outside, there were a good. amount of people in it, but it wasn't. overcrowded. He walked in unnoticed, took a look around. Good. More than. enough women here, more than enough.

potential victims. Most of them had. glasses in their hands, too, which meant. okay. He looked around for the bathroom. They would have to use the restroom, right? If they're drinking a lot, that. would be perfect. So, the bar has two. floors. The first floor is the design. designated bar area where the patrons. order and drink drinks and they can stay. there like a regular bar that you. imagine. Then the second floor is like a. durang situation, karaoke bar. In Korea, karaoke bars are a little bit different. So, it's not like a western bar where.

it's just one big room and you go up and. stage and sing in front of strangers. It's a bunch of mini rooms with a bunch. of people behind it and it's like a. private room for you and your friends. It's nice, right? So, he chooses the. restroom in between. There's like a. Okay, he chooses a restroom. I don't. want to over complicate it, but there's. like a stairwell and both levels are. going to be using this restroom and it. was a unisex restroom and it's not a. single unit. So, it's not a family. restroom. It actually has two stalls and. it's unisex. So, he didn't go into the. men's or the women's. He just went in.

there. When Zung arrived, the bathroom. was empty. He went into the one of the. two stalls and he waited there. He had. his ear pressed up against the wall and. he had a sashimi knife in one hand and. he heard footsteps on the stairs not too. long after. They were loud. They were. heavy. And Zung was pretty sure that. they belonged to a man. This would be a. no-go. He was listening for the light. pitterpatter of woman's feet, not the. big, strong, loud, masculine thumping of. a man. Easy distinction, obviously. Okay, I walk like a giant, so I don't.

know. The next footsteps he heard were a. little bit softer. So, he's like, "Ooh, maybe this is a woman." But there were. so many soft footsteps behind, and they. were getting closer and closer and. closer, and the bathroom door swung. open, and he could hear a bunch of young. boys talking, probably freshly 20, which. is the drinking age. And he waited for. all of them, like six of them, to use. the restroom, wash their hands, and. leave. And he starts wiping his clammy. hands on his pants. And he keeps. waiting. He couldn't leave just yet. He.

needed to make sure that he got revenge. for everything women had been doing to. him. A total of six men came and went. while Hung stayed hidden in the stall. And then finally, after 30 minutes that. felt like an eternity, he heard one. single set of soft footsteps enter the. restroom. He held his breath. He was. certain it was a woman, and she was. alone. He was sure of it. The victim's. family requested she remain anonymous, so we're going to call her Yedji. Yedji.

was at the bar with her boyfriend and. one of his friends, and it's unclear if. they were celebrating a special occasion. or maybe they just wanted a night out. They walked in, got their drinks, and as. they're enjoying themselves at around. 1:00 a.m., Yadi leans over and tells her. boyfriend that she's going to use the. restroom real quick. He asked, "Oh, do. you want me to take you there? Like, are. you are you okay?" She's like, "Don't be. silly. What are you going to do? Like, just listen to me use the restroom. It's. right there. I'm going to be back in a. few minutes. Besides, it's not too busy. in here. It's not like I'm going to get. lost in the crowd. It should be quick.". She leaves her drink with them, heads to.

the stairs, enters the bathroom at 10:07. a.m. She goes in, uses the restroom, and. hears someone in the bathroom next to. her finish their business. So, when. she's in the stall, she hears someone. flush next to her. And now it sounds. like they're washing their hands. So, she finishes her business, exits the. stall, and then a lot of things happen. at once. The first thing she noticed was. the smell. The second thing she noticed. was the hot burn of the sashimi knife. going into the front of her torso and. out the back. Then she felt a hand push.

on her as the knife was pulled out and. then another burn and again and again. And then she just saw this man rush out. of the restroom. She saw his head bob. down the stairs before the door fully. swung shut. and then she hit the floor. Her boyfriend got a little worried when. she didn't come back right away, but he. didn't want to overreact and go check up. on her. He also didn't know probably. that the restrooms were unisex, so it's. not like he can burst into the woman's. restroom and be like, "Eggy, are you in.

here?" He glanced around. I mean, everything seemed okay. Nobody was. freaking out. There was no commotion. So, he reasoned with himself. Well, okay. Maybe she was on her period. Maybe. she had stomach cramps. But after 30. minutes had gone by, he started getting. really worried. Is she sick? Did she get. lost? He and his friend walked up those same. stairs that Tungmin had rushed down half. an hour ago. They push open the door and. before they registered what they were. looking at, their feet came to a wet.

stop on the floor. Oh my god. They looked down at the squishing noise. and they had stepped in blood. Yedji was. alive but barely. She was unconscious. and barely breathing. She was bleeding. out on the bathroom floor. You have to. remember that she was stabbed four. times, but because the sushimi knife. went through her entire body, there were. eight wounds that she was bleeding out. of. She was rushed into an ambulance and the. paramedics tried to stop the bleeding,

but too much had already spilled out and. her pulse was fading and eventually it. stopped completely. Yedi died on May 17th, 2016 before the. sun came up. She was 23 years old, which is in Korean age, so probably in. US age, it's like 21. The police had no trouble finding Tong. Min. There was CCTV at the stairwell of. the bar. They caught Tungmin going up. They caught Yedji going up and then. Tungmin running down. He was sitting in. an interrogation room by 10:00 a.m. that.

morning. And he denied everything. He. said, "No, I don't even know why I'm. here. I wasn't involved in whatever you. think I was, and I have no idea why this. foot long sashimi knife covered in blood. is in my jacket pocket right now. I have. no clue. He still had the bloodcovered. knife in his pocket when the police. arrested him and he still denied all the. charges. He was like, "What girl? What. murder? Who are you talking about? I You. have no evidence.". Contrary to Sunni's belief, CCTV footage. and a bloody knife are pretty good. pieces of evidence. The police managed. to bring him back to reality and. convince him that, hey, the game is up.

And when they asked him why, they wanted. to know if Sung knew the victim, if he. had been following the victim, stalking. her, how long he had been watching her. Typically with stabbings, there is um a. connection between the perpetrator and. the victim. To stab someone requires you. to get very close to them, to push the. knife into them, and to look into their. eyes while you do it. It takes a certain. level of hatred. It takes anger. And. usually there's some sort of tangible. animosity there. But in this case, the.

stabbing was completely random. Yedi had. no idea who Sungmin was and vice versa. So what in the world led him to do this? Sung mean said, "Women always ignore me, so I hid in the bathroom to kill a. woman.". Okay, it's giving incel. It's giving. Elliot Rogers. And the police thought. so, too. Sun could already see the. accusations forming in their heads. And. they probably thought that this was some. misogynistic incel that got rejected, hated all the women. And Sunman wanted. to make it very clear that's not who he. was. He said, "I have I have no vendetta.

against ordinary women. I'm not a. misogynist. You know, there were times. in my life where I was very popular with. women and there were women that liked. me. The crime was due to the actual. damage that women have done to me. And. by actual damage, he's talking about the. fact that women were walking slowly in. front of him on purpose, the ones that. beat him on the shoulder in the metro, the one that flicked the cigarette butt. at him. He's saying this is actual. damage. He said people who just hate on women.

randomly on the internet are childish. And he's nothing like him. He said that. he has real life beef with women in. general and he's not a raging. misogynist. He's saying I wouldn't have. hated women if they hadn't done all this. to me. When Sunman was in the interrogation. room, it was pretty obvious that. something deeper was going on. I mean, the police could literally smell it. His. lack of personal hygiene suggested that. he struggled with a severe mental. illness and or was without a home, which. was interesting because according to. their police files, his mother was alive.

and well and avidly searching for her. son. So they call in his mom and she's the. one to tell them about the whole. situation about his mental health, him. not taking his meds, refusing treatment, but still a schizophrenia diagnosis is. no excuse for murder. They brought in. five different behavior profiles to. examine him and they came back with a. schizophrenia diagnosis. The police. already knew that, but the psychologist. said that he was deep in his delusions. that day. They said he firmly believes.

in these vague feelings and thoughts. that he has been victimized by women. And in his way of speaking, it's very. certain that he believes that women are. doing this to him on purpose. He. committed a crime with deliberate. actions without directly relating a. motive to the crime to the victim. It's. a characteristic of motiveless crime. that the plan is not systematic compared. to the purpose, such as he had no plan. to escape the next day. He had no plan. to get rid of the sashini knife or the. murder weapon. In other words, they. argued that he was heavily under the.

influence of his delusions and the crime. was nothing personal against Yedji. They stated that the crime lacked motive. because he didn't plan anything other. than the actual crime. He didn't try to. get away with it. So, the police chocked. it up to a schizophrenia and they called. it a day. They didn't even acknowledge. and I think what netzens wanted. I don't. think they wanted to go and persecute. everyone with schizophrenia that did. something because you know the law is. very particular about how you can plead. insanity, right? But they just wanted. nisonens just wanted acknowledgement. It.

wasn't even about putting some men in. jail. People just wanted to admit the. reason that even had these delusions to. begin with is because society has this. narrative about women. Like delusions. don't come out of thin air. There must. be some sort of internal bias already. established by the environment, by. society, by how people talk about women. online, in shows, in movies that made. him feel like women are after him. But. police didn't even acknowledge that. At. the end of the day, they said this has.

nothing to do with anything. It's just. his schizophrenia. [sighs]. So, what happened to him? We're going to get to the trial in a. second. Yeah. But they were like, "This. has nothing to do with anything. It's. just schizophrenia." They said there is. a need to distinguish between hate. crimes and crimes driven by mental. illness. The latest case falls in the. latter category. Okay, maybe that would make sense if it. weren't for the fact that Sunung. exclusively and explicitly mentioned. women as the cause of his suffering. He.

also let six men enter and leave the. restroom before he attacked Yajji. There. were men that came in alone before her, but he attacked the first alone woman. The police can't just ignore Hung's. explicit statement that he committed the. crime because women ignored him. When. nizens pointed it out, the police. responded, "We can't simply conclude. something based on a statement that was. made by a man with such a severe mental. illness." Okay, this I think the case. was already going to get a lot of. attention regardless, but the police. really helped make it front page news.

because think of the logic. They blame. his actions on his mental illness and. when he told them that he did it because. he doesn't like women, they didn't. believe him because of his mental. illness. The police categorize this as a random. wima crime, meaning that there is the. perpetrator and the victim have no. connections. Korean nizens were so upset. at this were so upset at the. classifications because they said, you. know, these wima crimes, they're not. really random if it's always women are. the victim. This is not random. Then.

it's just violence against women. Are men sitting there reading about. these Muima crimes going, "Oh, I'm so. scared now." No, it's women sitting at. home going, "I'm so scared because that. could be me." He wasn't just looking for. a victim. He was looking for a female. victim. That's the key difference. So, on May 24th, Sunung did a crime scene. reconstruction. These were pretty rare. to see in the West, but in Korea, it's. more or less common for the police to. bring in the perpetrator to the scene of. the crime and replay what they did. So, seeing the perpetrator hold a fake knife.

and stab a dummy is a lot stronger in. court than a statement saying, "I. stabbed the victim." So, it's good for. the prosecutors. Before they all get to. the bar, Sun pauses at the exit 10 of. Kung Nam Station. He turns to the. reporters and says, "I'm calm now. I. don't have any personal grudge or. feelings against the victim, and I'm. sorry that she had to be sacrificed.". He used the word sacrificed, like she. had to atone for a sin. The police were still adamant that this.

was a crime resulting from his. schizophrenia and not his hatred for. women. Netzens were baffled, especially. after hearing that because would it be. unrealistic to assume that his crime was. influenced by both his unchecked mental. illness and his hatred for women? Like. it doesn't have to be either or. Mhm. So his trial started in September and. the defense had a tough time due to the. mountain of evidence. You know, I think. the bloody knife in his coat jacket is. pretty hard to talk your way out of, but. they did their best. They tried blaming.

all of this on his mental illness and. incompetence somewhere in the slew of. medical professionals that cared for him. during his hospital stays throughout the. years. They said, "It's not Sunwin's. fault. It's schizophrenia's fault." They. asked the judge for a mandatory 20 years. in a mental health facility and an ankle. monitor. The prosecutors aimed for life. in prison. They brought out the. overwhelming amount of evidence and you. know there there was no doubt that. Sunung had murdered Yedji but there was. also the evidence that he was looking.

for a female victim. Sun was sentenced to 30 years in jail. Now I I think that there were a lot of. mixed feelings about this in South. Korea. You know I think there were. feelings of at the end of the day he did. what he did. He probably needs mental. help more than jail. And then other. people were saying it doesn't matter. Like this feels like a gender- based. crime. So he was there were both I could. see both sides. The Korean Supreme Court denied Hungin's. appeal and he will be in jail until.

2046. Then he will be released back into. the streets of Sor. A few days after Yedi's death, netzens. posted on Twitter about a memorial. outside of Kungam station for Yedji. The. hashtagskungnom murderman and bathroom. murder went viral on Korean platforms. and thousands of people showed up and. they left these white flowers, sticky. notes with short messages for the victim. and the public. I mean, the window of. the station was covered in a wall of. colorful sticky notes. From inside, it. looked like stained glass. Most of them.

read, "Female hate is a social problem. The women who remain will make this a. better world. I want to be alive at the. end of my workday. Is it too much to ask. to be safe to reject people I don't. like? Like all these feelings that a lot. of women in South Korea had been. struggling with were now being posted in. this whole collage of anxiety, paranoid. thoughts, and just threats to their. safety. And I think to visualize that. was a big moment in South Korea.

People wrote, "I'm still alive because I. didn't go to that restroom that day." To. indicate how random this was. There were a few people that claimed. that this whole case was reverse. misogyny. Yeah. So, people thought that. women were making a big deal out of. something that wasn't femicide and. trying to cast a bad shadow on men. There were people that came out and. posted messages amongst all of these. messages that said, "Women with victim. mentality are overexpanding this case.

Don't use this to fuel your political. agendas.". Members of EB storehouse, an alt-right. internet forum, posted about how they. were going to wear masks and show up at. the memorial to express their power. The. police heard about this, sent dozens of. police officers out to the station to. control the scene if something happened. In the end, only one member showed up. and the protesters tried to rip off his. mask. They said, "If you're not a member. of IBI, take it off with dignity.". Netzens said, "Yes, it's tragic that. sometimes victims are men, and we all.

know that men aren't monsters as a. whole, but the point is women can't be. sure which men are monsters and who. aren't until they're dead on the. bathroom floor. So, it's not really about you, okay? Like, that's what's terrifying about. being a woman." And side note, I got to. tell you about EB Storehouse because. they were recently in drama like a week. ago. So, EB Storehouse is it's pretty. famous in Korea. It's like the incel. community of South Korea. It's a website.

that has contributed nothing but a solid. net negative into the world. Members of. the community are often self-described. as anti-feminist, anti-immigrant, and. anti-LGBTQ and just like anti-. everything. Self-proclaimed shithe, if. you will. I don't know why they're so. proud of it. There's a scary amount of. them roaming around anonymously. And at. the website's peak, they had about. 700,000 daily users. And South Korea has. like a population of 40 million. So. that's a good chunk. Wow. Yeah. I mean, I think you can already.

imagine what kind of posts are on there. Your typical incel forum. They also are. avid fans of Mula, which is illegal. cameras that film women in bathrooms. But hopefully the next story gives you a. better picture of these people. Have you. listened to our episode on this fairy. disaster? It was a huge incident in. South Korea where hundreds of students. from Tanwan High School passed away on a. ferry. There was political corruption, corporate grade billionaires involved. It is considered one of the most tragic.

incidents in South Korea's modern. history. Eie made fun of the victims the. entire time on their forum. They even. mocked the parents for quote using their. child's death to get paid by the. government. I don't know if you remember this. detail. when the parents held a hunger. strike to get answers from the. government. Um, do you remember the. detail where people showed up and. started eating in front of them? That's dumb. That was organized and done by Eubie. storehouse. Those were EB members. What. the [ __ ]. They thought it would be hilarious to.

eat in front of the grieving parents. Over 100 EB users showed up to eat in. front of the victim's parents. In regards to this Howard tragedy, Ebby. went viral again in 2015 because there. was a post titled I have eaten my. friends on Ebie. An EBI user clearly in. his 20s. We know this cuz he was. arrested after. So no longer a high. school student somehow got his hands on. a Tan High School uniform. Whether he. bought it, purchased it off a student, I. don't know, the school that was impacted. by Sewar. He posted a picture of half of.

his face, the uniform, and he was eating. fish cakes. and he wrote, "The fish. cakes were made from fish that fed off. the lost bodies of the two students that. the families haven't been able to locate. since the disaster. So technically, I'm. eating my friends.". Wow. I am at at a loss for words. Oh, you're going to die when I tell you. the next part of what they just did a. week ago. So thankfully this user was. arrested for contempt and defamation by. the South Korean courts which I will say.

I know that we talk a lot about South. Korean cases cuz I'm Korean and I am. genuinely interested on everything. that's going on over there. South Korea. does have some pretty good defamation. laws. So he was arrested. I think in. America you wouldn't be arrested for. this. You would just be cancelled. socially. But he was arrested. And if. you're thinking okay well 2015 that's. still 8 years ago. We've made some. progress since then right? still can't. be going on. Just a week ago, a popular South Korean. gaming company, did one of the.

stupidest, most toxic things I've ever. seen from a huge company in a really. long time. So, the story starts early. July. Project Moon, part of Limbus, announced their summer game event, and. one of the main characters in the game. was a female lead. She looks like every. game character ever, like bright orange. hair that's perfect and flowy, regardless of who she's killing or. fighting in the game. Her figure is like. the most insane hourglass shape that is. literally unattainable in real life. But. whatever, it's just a game, right? A.

group of men in South Korea didn't like. it. They took one look at this game and. started foaming at the mouth in anger. like they were smashing their fist on. their keyboard, joining internet forums, going crazy. The main lead of the game. was wearing a skintight wet suit. They. said, "Why is she not in a bikini?". It sounds like I'm making this up. It. sounds like this is something that. happened a million years ago, like a. troll event, right? But no, welcome to. 2023. They start gathering on these. forums claiming that the game developers. must have hired a bunch of females to.

make this game. Why else would the. female lead be so covered up? She's. never covered up. The female lead is. always in a bikini. So why this summer. event is she covered up? It must be a. bunch of women that designed this game. So she's supposed to be wearing a. bikini. She's not sexy enough. They. started writing the most heinous reviews. on this game, accusing radical, quote, radical feminism to be the downfall of. this company and the gaming industry as. a whole. They started a witch hunt to. track down the designer of this specific.

character. And they discovered the. designer, dun dun dun, was a male. designer. Well, then story over, right? Radical feminism over, right? A man. designed this this character. No, no, no. They argued he must have felt. pressured to dress this character. conservatively by his female co-workers. Side note, the character is wearing a. skintight wets suit that shows off. literally every curve. Like, I hardly. call that conservative. Again, are we. seeing the problem here? They must find. a woman at the root of this so-called.

problem. They start cyberstalking every. single employee that they could find. online that had worked on this game. They went through each of their social. media accounts and one of the female. employees had a tweet that she reposted. from her personal account 5 years ago. and the tweet supported the cause to. stop mole camera illegal spy cams in. South Korea. The use of illegally placed. spy cams in hotel restrooms, hotel. rooms, motel that were targeting women. She retweeted the initiative to stop.

this already illegal act. It's already. illegal. It's not like she's trying to. make it illegal. She was fired from. Limbus company after this quote came to. light as if this is like a controversial. tweet. This is a week ago, 2023. One. week ago, the company fired her. Why? Because all these guys online were. making such a big fuss about it. How. she's a radical feminist. and she's imposing her political agendas. onto this game. [clears throat]. And the game probably these are their. demographic. They're.

Yeah. Oh my god. And I say this in quotations. like came to light because she's not. hiding it. The company fired her stating. that they had company rules that each. employee was to follow. And one of them. included not voicing controversial. controversial opinions on social media. accounts. Spy cams are illegal. To voice that you. don't think people should be doing. illegal things is now controversial. Imagine you get fired because you. tweeted, "Hey everyone, stop speeding. It's against the law." Or, "Hey.

everyone, don't commit homicide. It's. against the law. How on earth is that. controversial? To give you an accurate. picture on how ridiculous this is, this. is the timeline. People suspected. radical feminism in a gaming company. because the female character wasn't half. naked. People wish to hunt down the. supposed feminist female designer behind. this deplorable character. Oh [ __ ] it's. a male designer. Okay, fine. He gets a. pass. Wait, there's another person that. worked on this game and she's a woman.

Let's dig through her social media, find. a post from 5 years ago that showed that. she doesn't like illegal filming, ask. for her to be fired since it goes. against their ideologies, and she. actually gets fired. This is a week ago, not like 2001. Not. that that would make it better, but this. is a week ago. Netzens flipped out. I would say that. the group of primarily men that. conducted this witch hunt do not. represent most men in South Korea. because I mean, most men were so. infuriated. said they were taken to.

social media to voice their concerns. They posted, "Oh, okay. So, I guess it's. safe to assume that the company supports. illegal filming." Great. I will note. that from now on. They posted things. like, "Incels really be at war every. day." They posted, "They're such an. embarrassment to our country and to. men." Others posted, "I hope that all. foreigners find out that someone was. fired over retweeting a tweet about. being against illegal filming.". Yeah, it was bad. And like that was a. really long side note, but I feel like. that just represents who it would be.

storehouses as a group. Now, back to the. story. Netzens felt upset at the. authorities for Yedji's case. They felt. like officers in the court weren't. entirely were entirely ignoring the role. gender-based violence had to play in. this case. They chocked it up to mental. illness and left it at that. Not only. does that further stigmatize people with. schizophrenia and mental illnesses, it. ignores the deeply misogynistic culture. that continues to allow all these. thoughts to thrive. Protesters organized. marchers holding signs that said she.

died because she was a woman. Yedji's. death sparked a lot of conversation. about gender- based violence in Korea. A. sociology professor summed everything up. pretty nicely and he said, "You know, the fact that a reaction to this murder. is viewed as an overreaction from women. means that gender awareness education. has not been properly conducted in this. country. Korean society as a whole is. male-centered and it's no longer an. individual problem, but a social. problem. Public hate speech and crimes. against foreigners, women, and. minorities should be punished through. legis legislation. It should be enforced.

through education as a serious crime.". And for a while, it seemed like South. Korea was taking the necessary steps to. make the nation safer for women. Until 2022, everyone gathered at Kungam station and. filled the windows with more post-it. notes. It had been 6 years since Yajji's. murder. People were protesting outside. with signs that read, "For women. everywhere is Kangnam Station." On the. 6th anniversary of Deji's murder, has. anything changed?

Why did they gather again? Because. Another victim was murdered in a subway. station bathroom around the 6-year. anniversary of Yaji's murder. Her name was Joy, and her killer was. actually um a former coworker of hers. I. mean, it's just gender based violence. That's the only way. There's no excuse. There was no explanation to these. crimes. Joy had met this coworker, let's. call him Jay, and Jay was so obsessed. with her, but not even in a way that.

made sense. He would just stare at her, follow her around. He never tried to get. to know her. He just wanted her to be. his. He got her phone number. He would. call her 300 times a day, leaving. threatening voicemails that he would. kill her if she didn't go out with him. How she was his, belonged to him. All of. these things. He found out where she. lived. He would roam around her. apartment building. He would threaten to. end his own life if she didn't go on a. date with him. I mean, she was so fed. up. Eventually, she told him harshly, you know, cuz at first she was saying,

"I have a boyfriend. and I have a. boyfriend. And then eventually she said, "I don't want to date you. Please just. leave me alone." He wouldn't leave her. alone. She told her managers, they fired. him and they were going to press. charges. She was going through the legal. system. He was briefly arrested and led. out on bail. And while he was on bail, awaiting trial, he stabbed Joy to death. in the restroom, the subway station restroom. I mean, this case had so many. similarities to the Kungam bathroom.

murder that it immediately blew up and. nizens connected the case together. The. president of South Korea [laughter]. had something very interesting to say. about it. Instead of promising to fix. these problems and prevent more women. like Joy from being murdered in the. future, he said structural racism is a. thing of the past. They're both Korean, by the way. Literally, what? No one. knows. I don't even This is like a Bima. tweet. I don't even Don't ask me why he. wrote that. Yeah, everyone was like, "What are you.

talking about?" But it made sense. because this is the same president that. scrapped government gender quotas. immediately after entering the office. There are currently three women in his. 19 member cabinet. He has removed the. term gender inequality from textbooks. and canceled funding for programs that. fight everyday sexism. Side note, his mother-in-law just got. arrested. So, I would say he's not. having the best presidency right now. But anyway, yeah, after Joy was. murdered, the citizens of Hor gathered. outside the bathroom entrance and.

created a sticky note memorial just like. the one outside Kungam station. They wrote things like, "We survived. another day. How many more women need to. die for this country to change?". And I think the one thing that stands. out to me is that through all of these. don't ask questions cases, there is this. underlying idea that some people have. that women were created for men. Like in. the Busan Roundhouse kick, he Lee. believes that women exist to fulfill his. sick fantasy that he has with.

non-consensual essay. Even a glance on. the street must have been for him. And in Tong's case, he believes that. women exist to make his life harder. Everything they must do, they do because. of him to make his life rough. They must. be walking slow because of him. Not. because they're having conversations. with their friends and they have their. own lives, but it's for him. And South Korean nitizens are fed up. This could also explain why South Korea. has one of the lowest fertility rates in.

the world. A lot of Korean nizens. believe without fixing societal. problems, it's going to stay that way. Women are just over it. To put it. nicely, they're not getting married. They're not having children. And I just. want to point out women do not exist for. men and men would not exist without. women. So let's just all be nicer to one. another, [clears throat] you know, and that is today's case. And again, this is not a woman versus men topic. And if you as a man are watching this.

and you feel like it is, I think that. would be a really good moment of. self-reflection because, you know, I. think most men that watch these videos. and or in my personal life, they don't. ever see these cases as men versus. women. They see it as how do we help? What can we do? So, make sure to leave your thoughts in. the comments. Please stay safe. I will. see you guys on Wednesday for the main. episode. Bye.