GF Caught Tiktok Looksmaxxer BF Buying CP, Exposed Him, But Fans Still Support Him

Bada bing, bada boom. >> I will say it's quite unclear who the. saying it can always be worse is meant. for. Like, is it supposed to be. uplifting? Don't complain about your. weak jawline. It can always be worse. You could have big dough eyes instead of. sexy hunter eyes. How will people know. that you're a predator and not a prey? Or is it just supposed to be dismissive? Your complaint does not match this. imaginary threshold I've created in my. mind about the amount of distress you. can be in. So, quit complaining. Either.

[music] way, it can always be worse. It's not a very productive, nor is it a. very helpful comment to ever make. Like, what does that even mean? A girl named. Liv is very suspicious that her. boyfriend for the past 8 months [music]. has been cheating on her. But it can. always be worse, right? But what if it's. as bad as it [music] can possibly get? What if there is no worse? This is the. bottom. Then what do you say? Liv and. Mason have been together for about 8. months. And she has this gut feeling. that he is cheating on her enough so.

that she either wakes up or stays awake. until 7 in the morning and she notices. that he's asleep in bed next to her, which side note, how dare he rest. And. that's not sarcasm. I'm being very. serious. How dare he slumber? He's. snoozing away. Liv reaches over and. there is only one way to find out if. he's cheating on her, which is go. through his phone. What else is there to. do? She starts going through it, his. messages, his most recent chat history. And within the next hour or so, Liv.

hastily packs some of her things, practically makes a run for it. She. leaves without waking him up. She. doesn't even seem to leave a note, nothing. She just gets out of there. because Liv went in there with the. suspicion that he was cheating on her, which sure, [music] it can always be. worse. But what she finds in his phone. is the quote worse. It doesn't get. [music] worse from here. This is the. worst thing that could be found on his. phone. and she has all the evidence. She's going to the police with it. And. he hasn't been discreet about it either.

I mean, usually when you combine a. profile picture of breasts with an. unknown user on Telegram, yeah, your. girlfriend is probably going to go. through the chat history. I'm not sure. what Liv was expecting. Perhaps the. worst, or at least the worst that she. and probably most others can imagine. She clicks open the chat. The unknown. user is messaging her boyfriend [music]. Mason. CP teens and all group links. available. Which package are you. interested in and what's your budget? >> Wait, who's texting this?

>> This unknown Telegram profile with boobs. is texting her boyfriend. Okay, which is. alarming, right? But it could always be. a scam. It could be a spam message, a. fisher. But her boyfriend Mason responds. CP $25 max. They respond, "Okay, I get. quality CP Mega Link with large good. files of 2500 [music]. HD video files." Liv is reading as the. two of them start going down the path of. talking about how the payment is going.

to be secured. Her boyfriend that's. laying right next to her is sending. pictures showing that the payment went. through. And that's not the only. message. She clicks another conversation. that her boyfriend initiates with a. suspicious [music] user. Her boyfriend. starts the conversation, "Hi." The other. party responds, "Cp content available.". Her boyfriend asks, "How much?" And they. respond, [music] " $20 for videos, $30. for me links, $40 for joining CP group, $80 for all of the above. Her boyfriend, Mason, seemingly voices his pick by. texting back, "Okay, $20." He is then.

redirected to message another user, which has some variation of like trusted. seller in their username. So, that's. promising. He's told to message him to. get a link for the content. The. boyfriend messages them April 27th. [music]. and the next day, presumably after. getting the link, he asks for more. content and states that he's willing to. pay [music] $10. She clicks on one of. the links and she later describes to the. police she saw little girls between the. ages [music]. anywhere between 6 to like 10 years old.

and some as young as 3 years [music]. old, toddlers. This is the case of Mason Hull, a Tik. Tok influencer, looks maxer to be exact, who was exposed by his ex-girlfriend for. purchasing seam. >> And all the allegations were true, right? >> No. All. the child was true, right? >> And all of his bizarre excuses [music]. and why there are still a small but.

strong group of people that support him. >> [music]. [music]. >> We would like to thank today's sponsors. who have made it possible for Rotten. Mango to support NECME, the National. Center for Missing and Exploited.

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that in mind, let's begin. It is um it's. kind of like a horror movie. So, you. picture a high school guy named Norm. He's not like the most conventionally. attractive person out there, but like. objectively speaking, I guess you could. say that Norm has he has troubled skin. His skin is full of acne and blemishes. He's not ripped or jacked like the high. school jocks. His jawline is. non-existent thanks to his very hungry. appetite. Like, he's on the shorter. side. His eyes are dark brown. His. shoulders are slumped. God, his [ __ ].

shoulders are very slim is [music] what. Norm would say. And his neck is way too. skinny. And he's got big goass ass eyes. like little Bambi caught in some. headlights. That's what Norm looks like. Norm is every normal teenage high school. boy. And he decides that he is going to. ask out [music]. his crush, his one true love, a girl. named Becky, who he believes he has a. very good chance at because they're both. not that popular. They're not the most. conventionally attractive. They're kind. of the outcast. Norm asks Becky to go to. prom with him. But Becky, Becky the.

[ __ ] doesn't just reject him. She. chuckles in his face. She goes around. telling everyone he gives her the creeps. and she's so flabbergasted that he would. even fathom the idea that they could. ever be together for such an important. event like prom. This sends Norm over. the edge. He grabs a hammer, a used Home. Depot hammer from his parents' garage, and he starts hitting his face with the. hammer. He starts taking substances to. stay awake and lose weight. He's barely. consuming enough calories to survive. He. slips in insoles into his shoes. He.

finds testosterone on the black market. from some random suspicious thirdparty. retailer that is definitely not a doctor. or a licensed pharmacist. And he starts. taking testosterone and steroids. He. starts pulling at his face, snorting. lines of Accutane. He's probably just. taking the pills, but that's being. dramatic. And now he has transformed. He. has ascended, they say, from Norm to. Chad Light. And now when he walks by. Becky the [ __ ] in the hallways, all she. can do is leave a trail of drool like a. snail trail because she is so mesmerized.

by his masculinity, by his appearance, by his looks. But Norm, I mean Chad. Light now, walks right past loser Becky. in the hallway and straight up to the. blonde hot cheerleader Stacy and asks. her out. She of course says yes, but. nothing else because hot girls should. never speak. [music] Duh. You know. that's what makes them hot. and they. ride off into the distance riding each. other. Except not really because Chad. Light has erectile dysfunction from all. the substances he's been pumping for his. transformation. But that's not the.

point. The point is he has mugged. everybody. Welcome to the wet dreams and. inner ramblings and fantasies of a looks. maxer. Do I think. >> that's their fanfic. >> basically? And I'm not even like joking. with you. They write on forums like. this. >> Say this, write this. >> That's Wow. Do I think that everyone in. the Looks Maxing community thinks like. this? Probably not. Do I think that. there's enough people that think this. way that it's almost become a meme? Absolutely. Now, I do want to make a.

quick disclaimer. As a girl who went. through an ugly phase in high school and. is probably still in like the tail end. of said ugly phase, just I'm just. getting old enough not to really care. about it. I do have a lot of sympathy. for people who feel overwhelmed by. societal pressure to change their. appearance and meet some sort of. arbitrary beauty standard that is most. likely not even attainable, nor is it. healthy in the long run. I don't judge a. single person who gets consumed over. their appearance. I don't think it's. vain in the slightest. I think it's very. understandable pain to look at yourself.

in the mirror and not be happy with what. you see. I think everyone can relate to. that. However, sometimes I think. people's reasonings behind why they're. doing such drastic things for their. appearance is a little silly goofy. If. it's to show Becky the [ __ ] from high. school that you're better than her, it's. just kind of weird. I also think that if. you're out here pedalling all these. methods you call them to children on how. they can not be ugly and keep mugging. and you're just like giving harmful. advice such as blunt force trauma to the. face via a hammer. I think it's free.

game to openly [ __ ] on those individuals. if their net impact is a net negative to. their audience. Like, yeah, maybe we. should dissect some of their little. thought patterns. So, with that, let's. get into the world of looks maxing. It's very hard to pinpoint. You know, looks maxing is difficult to define. At. face value, it's just the idea that you. need to take care of yourself because we. live in a society where things like. pretty privilege exist. So, take care of. your health, eat healthy, do your. skincare, be hygienic, which I don't.

think inherently seems like a bad thing. at all. In fact, I do think if you can. afford it and you're able-bodied, self-grooming is not a bad idea. Like, it's probably a very good thing to. adopt. However, looks maxing is just not. just that. They take it a step further. where they have decided that not only. are looks the most important thing in. your life, but also there are only a few. set of traits that are considered. attractive. Everything else you might as. well roll around in dog [ __ ] and call it. a day because you're never going to be. considered hot. One looks maxer states,

>> first impressions are visual, not. verbal. So, you are literally being. judged before you even say anything. >> Think about when you see an attractive. person out in public on the train or. something. Your brain is literally. making assumptions. you're perceiving. who they are as a person before you even. talk to them. It takes an extreme level. of willpower and critical thinking to. not judge someone based on how they look. at first glance. >> I know a lot of you people are probably. coping thinking that you don't do this, but literally it's hardwired into our. psychology. I believe looks maxing is.

the future. >> I don't know if he's like [ __ ]. running for office, okay? But. >> let me say this. I think that it might. be a trend currently at the moment, but. I think something so hardwired into our. brain and rooted into our biology is not. going to leave. I think that we just all. of a sudden understood the importance. recently of this and it's only going to. get bigger and bigger. >> He says that looks maxing can be broken. into two groups, appeal and PSL. Appeal. is literally maximizing how attractive. you are in the real world and to others. So whereas PSL is maximizing your online.

little PSL score of how attractive you. are objectively by measurements that are. made in looks maxing [music] forums. >> PSL, what does that stand for? >> We're going to get there. Yeah, it gets. crazy. So I looked into it. It ranges. from 0 to 8. Okay, eight being high. PSL. doesn't stand for anything that's going. to be enlightening. So to everyone's. surprise, it does not stand for pumpkin. spice latte. It actually stands for PUA. hate, which was [music] a back then. online forum. >> PUA hate.

>> Yeah, pickup artist hate. I was thinking. pickup artist hate. >> They must be for the girls. Yeah, sign. me up. I want to be on that forum. It is. now like a defunct forum and they hated. pickup artists. Not because they stand. for women and not manipulating women, but they said that pickup artists are. online schemers who sell ugly boys. courses. And it doesn't matter how. charismatic or funny you are because. girls only like hot chads. So it will. never work. >> All right. The boys are fighting. >> Yeah, the boys are fighting by.

themselves on who's uglier. It's so. weird. Then there's another one. [ __ ]. hate lookism PSL. Yeah. But now they've. reabeled it perceived sexual level. scale. This is like the incel looks. maxing initial three trifecta forums. that existed. Like this is before. Reddit. Well, I don't know if Reddit was. around, but this is before like instead. of you used to go to puhat.com versus. like r/puhat. You know what I mean? >> PUA hate. But yeah, PSL, perceived.

sexual level scale. Here's the scale. You have to judge the face based off of. four categories. Harmony, how well your. features work together. Dorphism, how. distinct you look from the opposite sex. Angularity, how sharp you look, so low. body fat. and miscellaneous which is. your individual features such as eyebrow. thickness, skin clarity, nasol labial. folds, color, contrast, nose shape, teeth, hair. The lowest tier is 0.25 to. 1.5 in PSL ranking. That tier is called.

subhuman. So they're like straight to. the chase. They don't really beat around. the bush. Only one in 2,000 people make. it into the lowest tier, which is. described as individuals falling within. this category are exceptionally. unattractive and often exhibit. deformities. revealing their face could. genuinely frighten people and they have. almost no redeeming facial qualities. and that um quote real cause of medical. and surgical consultation. Then you have 1.5 to three which is a.

low tier normie. Normie being a mediocre. [ __ ] basically okay one in seven people. fall into this category. I genuinely. don't know how the math adds up, but. here we are, right? I don't think looks. maxers are known for their mathematical. abilities. Individuals falling into this. category possess an ordinary level of. unattractiveness. You're just like. regular ugly. They might face bullying. due to their appearance. Generally. considered ugly in real life, but. nothing serious. Great. So, not. seriously ugly, just like moderately. ugly. Love it. Then you have two to 4.5,

which is the mid-tier normie. One in two. people fit in this standard according to. who the [ __ ] knows and it is described. as individuals belonging to this group. are entirely average. They epitomize the. common person. While they might be seen. as unattractive by a few, in truth they. are simply ordinary. Then you have 4.5 to 5.5 tier, the high. tier normies. Individuals falling into. this group are typically seen as. appealing and good-looking, often being. among the most attractive individuals in.

a classroom or a small workplace. setting. So tell me why in this example. list for this tier some mashed potato. forb brain looks maxer placed photos of. Michael B. Jordan and Zenaia as high. tier normies. I don't know what the. looks maxers have against Michael B. Jordan because another one rated Michael. B. Jordan. They said actually he's 3.5. He's quote superfacially challenged. which is not what. >> superfacially. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's not what any woman.

alive thinks, especially after the movie. Sinners, but like, okay, sure. Then you. have the tier above. 5.5 to six. Chad. light. >> O, >> individuals falling into this category. experience an advantage in their lives. >> Do they ever show their own face? >> Um, usually not. Usually not. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Of course not. So, in. my head, they just look like a [ __ ]. gigachad. Yeah. [laughter] I'm just. like, okay, sure. [gasps]. Like, you look like the drawing, not a. real gigachad. like the drawing of the.

[laughter] gigat. Yeah. [gasps]. >> Yeah. And they say um advantage in their. lives due to their looks. Huge. advantage. Their appearance can. potentially launch a modeling career or. lead to a substantial following on. social media. Above that is 6 to 7.25. These are the real Chads, not the. [ __ ] diet version, not the light, the. reals. >> Individuals belonging to this category. would easily stand out in a crowd, often. possessing at least one striking. feature, if not more. They typically. encounter no difficulties with. attracting romantic partners unless.

facing severe mental health issues. Their looks serve as an extreme. advantage in various aspects of their. lives. Then there's 7.25 to 7.75 to8. The giga chads. Widely recognized for. their exceptional looks characterized by. extremely minimal flaws such as slightly. unidal eye spacing or subtle variations. in brow color and nose shape. These. individuals are rare with only a handful. found globally. They are considered the. elite of the modeling world due to their. near-perfect features. Then you have the Terra Chads 7.75 to8.

Anything in this category is impossible. Attaining this level is virtually. impossible. No one can achieve absolute. perfection or universal attractiveness. to every woman worldwide. This. destination is reserved for mythical. features like Adonis or Apollo. >> [laughter]. >> This is like a lot. Okay. The arbitrary. rankings are just a whole bunch of. nonsense that has Looks maxers whipping. out Adobe Photoshop to get facial.

measurements on someone's face. For. example, ideally the width of the eye. should be three times its vertical. height. >> You know, have you seen those um people. put put the. >> Chad? Yes. >> Like they they photoshop people's face. into like a full uh you know, >> the perfect face. >> and then they all look so weird. afterward. >> So gross. Yes. That's what the looks. maxers want. That's what they dream. about. The symmetry for some has almost. become like an obsession. The face has. to like have facial symmetry that abide. by the facial thirds rule. I guess if.

you want to have a chance at feeling a. cuddle from like a fellow warm body, you. have to have like perfectly thirds. It's. got to be imaginary thirds. Okay? Each. segment must occupy one/ird of the. face's total height. Forehead is a. third. This part is a third. Your lower. part needs to be a third. And it's not. just the only random test out there. There's also the very very real, very I. mean everybody abides by this because of. course we do. The SMV that stands for. sexual market value which takes into.

your account your job, your popularity, your weight, height, facial rating to. figure out your value in some sort of. horned up farmers market. This is. exactly what happens when I go out with. my girlfriends. We sit there and I say, "What the [ __ ] is his SMV? Let's. calculate right now. Bring out your. calculator cuz we're dumb and we don't. know how to do math cuz we're just. girls." Like, what are you talking. about? Looks maxing and looks maxers seem to be. part of the manosphere, the red pill, black pill, if you will. If you've ever.

if you've ever been confused, just know. that if you click on a live stream, and. it must be a live stream. It cannot be. like a video and it's not taking place. in a hotel convention center and you. just see a bunch of dudes in a nice. modern house in Los Angeles or Miami. It's typically one of those two cities. and it's a bunch of white guys wearing. suits holding cigars while flashing. their watches and Cuban link chains and. you realize that they're not attending.

any sort of formal event that would. require a suit. They did not just get. back from a wedding or some sort of work. convention. This is the event. The live. stream is the event. They just look like. a [ __ ] butler from the rits in Paris. You're probably stumbling upon some. looks maxers to some degree. And more. often than not, they can be considered. part of the manosphere. They all just. feed into each other's pipelines. The. pill pipeline. Which drug would you. like? There's a lot of pills. We know. the main ones. Red, blue, black. Okay. So, the pill color indicates basically. like how much are you getting?

>> Hold on. Slow down a little. >> Okay. Back to the live stream. >> Yes. So they're a bunch of guys dressed. in suits with holding a cigar sitting. around a table or standing there. What. are they doing? >> So sometimes they sit around the table. and it's like the juxiposition of the. men in suits in like gaming chairs and. like roll around office chairs and. they're all like sitting in a semicircle. and then we're the other half of the. circle the live stream camera. Or. sometimes it's like IRL live stream. Someone's following the whole mansion. and they're all just like standing on.

the balcony. You can see the city of. angels behind them and they've got a. cigar. >> They're they're streamers or. >> Yeah, they're streamers and like it's. just a bunch of dudes. You don't see a. woman in sight and they just talk about. women. >> Oh, >> yeah. >> I see. >> Yeah. >> I've actually never seen that even like. as a clip before. Is that a big trend or. >> You know, I I went to the depths of. really messing up my algorithm for this.

one. Okay. I didn't see any casually. until this, but it seems like they're. popular. >> Are their audience mostly men then? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yeah. It's like a circle jerk. And like. when I I mean, you're going to know. these people. It's like um I don't know. what his name is. I forget his name, but. like the tape brothers hang out with. them. >> It's like the manosisphere. >> I see. Are they Looks maxers or. >> Yes. Oh, they're concerned. >> Manosphere is looks maxers are like a.

subset of the manosphere. Not all looks. maxers are part of the manosphere. It's. like not all Christians go to church, right? Type of vibe. But. >> do they call themselves look maxers? >> Yeah. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't think the. tape brothers do. >> Do you have to look certain way to call. yourself look maxer? >> I mean, probably cuz you might get. laughed out if you don't. >> Right. While I was going down the whole. rabbit hole, I did see their arrest. footage. And I just want to say one. thing and one thing only. And this is my. only opinion right now that I'm going to. give you. I don't even think I own a.

pair of pants that tight. Even in my hoiest of ho days, never. It's cutting off circulation. It's basically like compression pants. He's going like, is he trying to get on. a plane? Anyway, the pill color. indicates how strong the misogyny. coursing through the veins is and. probably is a direct correlation of how. often you get laid. I'm only half. kidding, but not really. Red pill. appears to be how it all started. It's. from the movie The Matrix, which is like.

a movie you cannot watch anymore without. having incels talking about it. If you. take the red pill, you've watched the. movie red pill, blue pill. If you take. the red pill, that means you have woken. up to the system of the real world where. you realize women have the advantage. And female oppression is a myth. >> Typically, women are manipulative, lying, scheming creatures who really. only care about status and looks, and. they will tell you that they want. someone with a good personality, but in. reality, they just want a rich Chad with. a fat wallet who walks like it's heavy.

That's it. Blue pill means a man who has. not woken up to his reality. A lot of. red pillars think that blue pillars are. doormats putting women on pedestals. They haven't taken the red pill yet. They're just a bunch of bozos. And then. you have the purple pill. Usually. someone who is both red and blue pill, they agree with aspects of both sides, but they're not as aggressively like one. or the other. And then you have the. black pillars, and they seem to be where. a lot of the looks maxers fit in. So red. pill is typically synonymous with.

incelss. >> Okay. Black Pill too, but Black Pillars have. this they do have intimate relations. It. seems however sparse. I believe Black. Pillars believe that the system is too. far gone to change. This is just how. life is and how life is going to be. forever. Looks are at the center of. everything and there's no way to change. it. But looks maxers within the black. pill community instead of taking on the. very nihilistic approach of well then. what's the point of trying? They. aggressively try. They do everything to.

change how they look so they can bring. up their sexual market value. And for. them, women are just numbers to be. conquered that will enforce their SMV. >> So, do they care about anything else. besides look? >> Do they care about like. >> aura? >> No, but like substance. >> substance abuse. Yes. But no. personality. >> Okay. Okay. >> They believe that women don't care for. personality. >> Oh, like brain, personality, nothing. just no appearances. >> They think women care about looks first.

and then fame, status, and money second. >> and then nothing else really. >> That's interesting. Wow. They think. looks is okay. I mean, it makes sense to. them, but wow. >> But not sense to anyone else because I. feel like we've had this conversation, too. We were talking to a bunch of Yeah. We were like, "Oh, yeah. What do you. guys categorize?" And like pretty much. every girl I know was like, "Oh, yeah. Personality. I just need them to be. [ __ ] funny." Yeah. It's interesting. Now, looks maxing is a term that was. developed in the early 2010s on, like I. said, openly misogynistic forms like.

peway hate, [ __ ] hate, lookism. It's. technically an ideology that appearance. is the end- all beall. Just based off. how you look, it's going to dictate who. you date, how much money you make, and. pretty much every other aspect of your. life. Now, I will say I do have some. like level of sympathy for looks maxers. in the sense of um I think they're like. feeling what girls feel of like damn. >> people will judge my looks before they. judge anything else. That kind of sucks.

So, I understand and I think it is a. very miserable place to be. But I do. think the hatred that's placed on women. is probably not great. >> That's the part where I'm like, "Oh, you're losing us. So, you're losing lots. of people. It's kind of getting weird. and violent and scary. >> Interesting. >> Yeah. But just know that the looks. maxing black pill red pill pipeline is. very alive and well. It's being. maintained every single day by some. chiseled Chads who on the internet dream. about live streaming with the likes of.

the Tate brothers wearing booty tight. trousers that you will only see in West. Hollywood. Someone on Reddit describes. it like this. Blue pill, they tell you. just be yourself and a girl will date. you. Red pill, just have game, otherwise. they don't care. Black pill, just be. hot. Purple pill, just be a little bit. of every pill with moderation. And the. best way to be the king of the looks. maxers, the king of the black pills, is. to mog. Mog so hard you don't remember a time. where you are not mogging, it all starts.

and ends with mogging. According to. Clavicular, more on him later, one of. the biggest moggers on the internet, poster child for looks maxers, he says. MOG comes from AM OG, an acronym which. he states used to stand for alpha male. of the group, but now they just. shortened it to MOG. It means you out. hot whoever you're standing next to. It's not just these super intensive. plastic surgeries or these cosmetic. procedures. It's just anything that's. going to improve your looks. The looks.

maxers take it so seriously. They have. World War Mogs. [laughter]. [gasps]. >> They have a place called Mog Warts. It's. a paid course where they teach you how. to be the mogiest of moggers. So, you. can forever mog. [laughter]. >> Okay. How do you do that? >> I didn't pay. It's $50 a month, honey. >> Oh, [laughter]. >> yeah. You can height mo just means. you're taller than whoever you're. standing next to. Frame mog. You're more. jacked than the person you're standing.

next to. Neck mog. You've got a wider. neck. This is a good thing. The wide. neck epidemic needs to be studied in the. future. There are pictures that looks. maxers will show you what the perfect. neck looks like. >> Uh-huh. >> Just think of your neck to be the exact. width of your face. It's a lot of neck. It's just like a tree trunk implanted. under your chin. Decapitation is a. farway worry for any real Looks maxer. because their neck is just a behemoth.

One person says a big problem that I see. with a lot of guys is their neck is. simply too skinny compared to the size. of their head because it's too small. Their entire facial harmony and facial. masculinity is thrown off which makes. them less attractive. Also, they need to. do eye corner pulling which if you do in. public I'm going to call you racist but. it's just like where you like do this. Okay. It's like you stretch the sides of. your eye. And they say this is something. that is meant to train the muscles. around your eyes over time, teaching. those muscles to hold your eyes in a. sharper position. It will essentially.

allow you to achieve more hunter-like. eyes over time. They want your eyes to. look predatory. Do they look predatory? No. These look maxers just look like. they're [ __ ] squinting. Like it's too. bright in the room and they're squinting. all the time. Hunter eyes, I mean, they're supposed to be deep set in the. face. No upper eyelid exposure studies. apparently, they cite random studies, okay, have shown that individuals with. hunter eyes are generally perceived as. more attractive.

They say be careful though with the. hunter eyes exercises because the skin. around the eyes is very thin and. sensitive. Opthalmologists have come. forward to say don't do that. Don't even. try doing that. But okay, you must also. me to the gods. It's your sacrifice that. you must make to the deities. One looks. maxer says mewing is a must. We should. all be mewing 24/7. [laughter]. So you you know what mewing is, right? The tongue has to sit on the roof of. your mouth and it makes your jaw more.

chiseled. Apparently it's the correct. tongue placement. I don't know. A lot of. this stuff is just silly, goofy stuff. that the girly pops invented and guys. have rebranded it, infringed upon our. girly trademarks and renamed it. something that sounds more masculine so. they don't feel gay. Why they do a. ninestep skincare routine? God forbid. He did, but he's been more open to it. these days. Nevertheless, they're. mewing. They're doing skin care. They're. also just like doing color theory. They. say your teeth should match the.

whiteness of your eye whites because if. it's whiter than that, you look uncanny. You look unnatural. Freaky color theory, but color theory nonetheless. But also. for men, the mouth has to be wide. If. not wide, there's no point in even. opening your mouth to talk. If you don't. have a wide mouth, worry not. It's not. entirely hopeless. You still have a. chance at living a meaningful life and. contributing to society. You could. always get a mouth expander. Or perhaps. I could interest you in having the. simple procedure of having a doctor cut. open the sides of your mouth to make it.

wider. But why have a doctor do it when. you have a pair of scissors and a roll. of gauze at home? >> Lord, really? >> Yeah. >> Are people doing that? >> I would say. >> like a joker. >> Yeah, but more so at the doctor's. office. >> Does it work? >> I actually don't see it a lot with the. mouth as much as I see it with the eyes. It's actually a pretty common procedure. um in other countries to cut the sides. of your eyes to make a bigger white a. wider eye a bigger eye.

>> I think a lot of people watching can. relate to the misery that is trying to. be conventionally attractive. So this is. not me trying to be snarky or say like. look at them trying to be hot when like. we're all trying to be hot and we're all. failing miserably. It's just the way. they go about it is a little weird and. the way that like I think also maybe I'm. not conveying correctly. If you think. >> I think they're jud too judgmental, right? Like. >> they're too Yes. too judgmental to each. other and to kids who go on the forum. like 14-year-old boys. And on top of. that, all of this angst that they have.

of feeling conventionally attractive is. directed straight into hatred for women. So that's why we're poking fun. It's not. because it's like snarky. Like, haha, look at them. They're pathetic. Like. we're all pathetic, right? But it's just. brutal. There's subreddits like r/true. rate me and people will post pictures of. themselves to have anonymous but most. likely guys that smell like wet moldy. towels and a greasy keyboard rate some. of the prettiest people I've seen. And. they say, "Oh, you're a 6.2 on a good. day with makeup." And I'm like, "That.

person could be on a TV show." They tell. other people, seemingly underage boys, that they're not mogging hard enough and. they should chew on a towel, which is a. thing. It's called towel chewing, towel. pulling or whatever. And you bite on a. towel so you can train your jaw. You add. stress to your massitor muscles to make. your jawline look sharper. And again, I. can't even judge that because there are. lots of people who get masstors botox to. make their jaw look slimmer. But it's. just I would never advise an underage. person to do that. >> Mhm. There's towel maxing, thumb.

pulling, where you put your thumbs on. the roof of your mouth every single day, a few times a day, and you pull because. you're trying to pull out the upper. palette because the last thing you want, the last thing a looks maxer wants is. your lower face to be recessed like a. mouth breather, they say. So, when. you're not trying to rearrange your. face, you're also gym maxing so you can. rearrange your body. And a very. important message if you're gym maxing. is you must post photos of yourself gym. maxing which results in the looks maxing.

community to just be filled with guys. posting thirst traps shirtless thirst. traps flexing their neck muscles sucking. in their cheeks. They they love sucking. in their cheeks to get like a defined. jawline. >> Yeah. Like they're sucking on a straw or. something else so hard that their cheeks. are like starting to cave in. >> Yeah. Just muscle memory sucking on. those photos. So weird. So bizarre. >> I know. >> And then it's just a bunch of guys. commenting on those thirst traps talking. about how Chad the original poster is,

how good they look. It's almost by. definition. I don't think we could get. closer definitionally to a circle jerk. filled with a bunch of guys. And you. rarely ever see girls in that circle. jerk. [music] Except when the Looks Max. or wannabes are talking about how the. girls are going to love how Chad someone. is. Look, I don't know. Can I just say. if you're young and you're insecure. about the way you look, looks maxing is. probably not the right way to go. or at. least the way it looks right now. Aside. from a few, most of the Looks Maxers. have this very uncanny valley look to.

them where they just look like wannabe. cosplayers who escape from Comic-Con, which side note, I think cosplayers are. typically very hot, but the looks maxers. are so stiff. Like the cosplayers are. cool and they're fun and they're just. like the way they express themselves. artistically is so attractive to see, right? But then looks maxers, they walk. weird and they're always posing and. sucking in that you just feel very. uncomfortable watching them because they. look so conscious about how they look. and then you start feeling their. insecurities and you just want to leave.

because you feel uncomfortable. It's. just weird. One looks maxer says it does. not just stop at looks though. Okay, status, fame, aura, connections are a. huge part of the looks maxing journey. And maybe just as important, equally as. important, is something they call banana. maxing. [sighs] Yeah, you never thought. we'd get here, right? Banana maxing is. making your banana the best in the. market of your pants. One maxer gives. the advice, weight loss can help reduce. the fat pad under there, which can make. your banana look a whole lot better. And.

there are vacuum tools out there, devices that you can use to temporary. gain. >> They use the word banana. >> No. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. There's also um this like sus. So. they use pumps. It's like a vacuum, >> right? >> I always thought those were like for. activities. I always thought people were. getting those like cuz they're into. certain scenes, right? >> But turns out looks maxers are a huge. market. I don't know where they're. hiding it, but they just whip them out. during live stream. [laughter]. >> I think Clavvicular has like a whole.

collection of them. Yeah. >> They're giving advice. They're doing. YouTube videos. >> Then there's the suspender bungee rope. contraption you can wear. If I'm not. mistaken, you attach something to your. knee or somewhere down there and then. the other part is attached to your. banana and it's like a bungee cord down. to your knee. So, it's like trying to. pull gravity down on your banana and. you're supposed to wear it all day under. your pants. Just uncomfortable. Absolutely. Okay. Unbearable pain. Fingers crossed it's not. Does it work?

Some claim after a year of wearing this. torture device every single day, they. have noticed about an inch of difference. in a single year. So, I imagine it's. very sore. I don't even know if you. could use it, but what do I know? And. again, I think it's weird because, and. I'm not making fun of it, I also have. very I had insecurities about intimate. parts of my body, and I it's not like me. shaming people for having those. thoughts. I just think it's weird. because I've never met a girl who cared. about stuff like that. So, it just feels. a little misled. It feels a little.

misguided and it feels very dangerous if. I might say because clavvicular himself. has stated that he struggles heavily. with erectile dysfunction from all of. the substances and treatments that he's. done. And I'm sure Banana Maxing was not. helpful, but they rank it as important. as shoe lifts, which they say the height. gained from shoe lifts is not the most. substantial. The insole is rather. squishy, so the added height is actually. not as much as it claims to be. So, it's. better to actually just wear a shoe that. is naturally taller. And if all else. fails, in the wise words of clavicular,

you can always wear long pants and. tiptoe max, which is like what I do when I wear long. pants and I have to go into a public. restroom. He's just tiptoeaxing. Okay. All of this is also as equally important. as wearing colored contacts, which one. looks maxer describes as colored. contacts can actually save a bad eye. area. Never heard of a bad eye area, but. apparently having brown eyes, you might. as well get ready to live a life of pain. and suffering. Some people are even. getting eye color surgery, which is.

laser maxing straight to your retina so. you can blue max is what they say. >> Really, >> it just like takes all the pigment out. of your eye and it is widely known to be. dangerous and not worth it at all. I. don't know what maxers have against a. simple brown eye, but it's like the bane. of their existence. Side note, a lot of. these guys, not all looks maxers, but a. lot of them think that men and women are. not equal. They are rather. complimentary. Meaning, you know, men. are supposed to be in charge and women. are supposed to listen, right? But are.

we supposed to listen to someone who's. petrified of staring into the depths of. his own brown eyes? I don't know if I. would put my life in those people's. hands. If you have brown eyes, you're. cooked. That's what they say. Clvicular. said, you know, if you you can get the. procedure. He says, "You could probably. slay tons of hot chicks while ascending. and living in Mog City. I'll do this. eventually in my life.". >> Do what? >> Laser surgery for eye color change. >> Oh. Oh, he has brown eyes. >> I think they're like light brown.

>> He doesn't like it. I see. >> There's also height surgery. Oh, yeah. Oh, there's a whole cast system ranking. for colors of eyes. If you have dark, almost black, brown eyes, you are quote. untouchable sanitation workers, street. sweepers. If they're dark brown, you're. a manual laborer, peasant, street. merchant. It goes all the way up in. order of hazel, green, dark blue to the. very lightest blue color, which they. state as quote, "Men destined to define. eras and change history who will be.

remembered for millennia to come." It's. a goofy chart. If you have green eyes, that means you're an officer, an. official, or a diplomat. If you have. dark blue eyes, you're an influential. artist, writer, and general. Where are. we getting any of this information? And. I feel like the peptide maxing has. melted everybody's brains. What is. peptide maxing? I can't even tell you. But I know everyone's doing it. Wall. Street is no longer full of cokeheads. They're all peptide maxing apparently. I. almost got sold on peptide maxing. Someone was like, "You can live a very.

long time for longevity and health." And. then I realized we're not in the good. place, we're in the bad place. Why. extend this day? Okay, I really still. don't to this day know what peptide. maxing is, but everyone's on peptides. It's a thing. Eyeball maxing, same as. shoulder maxing. Height maxing. Oh, height maxing is a really big thing. People are even undergoing surgeries to. height max where they like put a lever, they break your bone, they put them at a. lever and then you have to like crank it. every day for 6 months. >> and you just like grow a tiny bit every. day. >> Does it work? >> Um, I don't know. But it takes years to.

learn how to walk properly again. And. some people even after 3 4 years after. height maxing surgery, they get excited. at jogging. And like it's just kind of sad cuz you. know there are lots of people who would. die to have functioning legs or. functioning eyes regardless of the eye. color. It's just kind of depressing. But. you can also shoulder masks. Wear. shoulder pads. They do recommend only. whipping those bad boys out during. winter months though cuz the layers help. hide them, right? I I did see one clip.

of Clavvicular just like throwing on. [music] um sticky boob. >> under his t-shirt to make his shoulder. more shoulder maxing. Yeah. And I never. like I never want to hear a looks maxer. make the very unfunny joke of taking a. girl swimming on the first date to see. her without makeup because Yeah. You've. got two floaties strapped to your arms. I'll be drowning without makeup on and. you'll be like a little airhead just. bobbing around with your shoulder pads. keeping you afloat. Also, you've got four eyeballs. Your. color contacts are rolling around in. your eyes now cuz the chlorine. We're.

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One could make the very good argument. that looks maxing is just hotter in. cells that sometimes get laid, but. ultimately like how harmful is looks. maxing. I think if looks maxing kept to. themselves [music] in this bubble where. they all just are men rating men's. looks. Maybe it's okay, but it just um. it gets unhealthy [music]. if they just stuck to self-care, grooming, maybe wearing makeup, which. side note, Looks Maxers will do videos. like howto guides. They call it fraud.

maxing [music]. where they show you how to use eyebrow. pencils to get chiseled jaw lines, basically [music] contour their face. It's like a repackaged makeup tutorial. They're just doing get ready with me, but they never call it that because they. want to call it fraud maxing because. that sounds, I [music] think, more. masculine. But is that really harmful at. the end of the day? One person writes on. a looks maxing forum, "Hello everyone. I'm a 14-year-old subhuman. I'm 5'7. [music] and 119 pounds and I'm ugly as. [ __ ] I've lost 20 lb in a month during.

an extreme [music] cut, but I don't. think I'm close at all to even looking. okay. Please help me. I want to get. better looking. Please give me tips.". The height toe ratio with more cutting. probably unhealthy. I'm not sure. But. one comment, instead of pointing that. out or encouraging them because they're. 14 and calling themselves subhuman. because of this random little scale. online, they just comment back, "Get a. haircut to cover your forehead, G.". Which is actually pretty tame cuz. there's other people commenting things. like, "Nothing you can fix with soft.

maxing, bro." Meaning like, "You got to. get surgery.". >> Soft maxing is just grooming and eating. healthy, Accutane. But hard maxing is. surgery, jaw surgery, eye surgery. You. know, other people will post 19. Here's. a picture of me. How can I improve? And. someone will comment, you got a really. frail, weak-l looking body. Someone else. comments, you look submissive as [ __ ]. Take roids and get a go- like looks or. you're cooked. Gio is shorthand for a. sliding geneasty, which is where the.

chin bone is cut and they slide your. chin forward and reposition it. It's. [music] to fix I mean there's real. medical reasons why you would need this. but aesthetically speaking it's to fix. what people believe is quote a weak chin. and to create a projected and defined. [music] jawline. Some people advocate for it on looks. maxing forum saying it's not as painful. as people make it out to be. But also. you can't chew soft food for like 3 to 4. weeks after the operation. Some people. say it took them closer to 2 months to.

chew mashed [music] potatoes. So, it. does seem like a very big trade-off. Other people are saying go to an ortho. Not going to lie, I would beat the [ __ ]. out of you. >> I don't know what it's just like a. picture of them and they're asking for. advice. >> But when surgeries are tens of thousands. of dollars to get it done safely, like. how else can you fix the problem that is. the face that we are born with, right? There are lots of predatory looks maxers. out there that charge their fans courses. reminiscent of the pickup artist. courses, Bitcoin crypto courses, finance.

courses, stock trading courses. They. teach courses on how to mog, how to be. hot. For $10 to $15 a month, you can be. a muggle and pay for Mogwarts. The. school for looks maxing. Who on earth. would pay for such a program? 2,000. people. 2,000 people. Now, to the credit. of Margwarts, they do market themselves. as a hate-free space for young men. So, I would hope and imagine that they're. not out here brutally ripping people. apart for having facial asymmetry. But, I don't know. What does admissions into.

the very legitimate school of moarts. looks like? There's going to be classes. every week from influencers who cosplay. as professors who will teach you to mog. better, Q&As's with professional. moggers, aka famous looks maxing looks. maxers, PowerPoint presentations, and. guides on how to be the ultimate mogger. and guides on how to get a razor sharp. jawline that you can use to cut open the. next admissions letter you get from your. [music] Mogle friends. The founder of. Mogwart states, "It's completely. delusional to think that young men are. going to go on social media, see these. high value, attractive people with money.

and all these sorts of things and not. get insecure. It is innate. It's going. to happen. So, I'd rather be the one. influencer who instead of making people. feel like this sort of insecuress, instead I'll guide them towards the sort. of thing that they can change by. charging them." But this is also the. same guy that gives very spectacular. dating advice where he has said, "If. you're dating a girl who has told you. that she has a celebrity crush, it's. over." Quote, "She's disrespected you by. mentioning the celebrity in front of. you. If a girl truly likes you, she.

won't even think about any other guy. Drop her. [music] She's immature." And I. have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of. these Looks maxers, all their. ex-girlfriend celebrity crushes were. Michael B. Jordan because I feel like. that's the only reason that they're. [ __ ] on Michael B. Jordan all the. time for no reason. Just shots fired at. Michael B. Jordan. >> Is that a common thing? >> Yeah. >> I'm like, hello. I've never taken a. course at Mogwart, so I'm not sure how. much, if at all, predatory the course. can be, but there are Looks Maxers out.

here just encouraging people to do at. home injections of Aqualix, which is a. fat dissolving injection. They want you. to do it straight to the [music] face. It is not FDA approved in the US. Not. that the FDA has been doing much. recently, but in the UK, you could. potentially get a prescription for it. But it's this is I mean hardly the only. substance or injection looks maxers talk. about doing to their very. impressionable, sometimes very desperate. audience who just want to fit in. There's also steroid maxing,

testosterone maxing. They have this. other weird like pregab. They they. encourage taking bzzoazipines or. different forms of that so that you can. be not so nervous when you talk to. members of the opposite girls when you. talk to girls. Yeah. Also, if it were. just a bubble where guys are just trying. to look hotter and not go through just. these really extreme measures, it's. probably still not great. But again, these forums have so much hatred against.

women. They write things like on the. forums, "Land whales and deformed girls. will still have access to a hundred. times more intimate relations than any. averagel looking men. Their the bane of. their existence is what they call. hypergamy." Well, it's like a real. concept, but I don't know if it's proven. to be at all other than one random. generic study that isn't even well done. But it's this concept, this ideology. that they have that women, 80% of women. date the top 20% of men, and they don't.

care to date the other bottom 80%. >> Okay? So, it's basically saying all. women always date above their look and. socioeconomic status, which I do think. that there's a lot more studies recently. that show that is not the case. In fact, the opposite is true where I believe at. least in the US more often than not, women will marry men who are less. educated than than them on paper. So, I. don't really know where they're getting. this from, but they write, "Land whales. and deformed girls will still have.

access to 100 times more intimate. relations than any looking man, as men. have become literal low self-esteem. social roaches ready to do anything for. some fat, pre-owned, stinky smelling. pee. The only thing that will determine. how long your very good-looking chick is. going to stay with you is the amount of. money you have or how good your bedroom. game is. That is the ultimate straight. relationship black pill. It continues to. say that you need to practice being the. last one in the race. In fact, don't. even finish the race. Okay? So, he's. like trying to teach you how to be.

manipulative. So, he's like, you need to. learn not to arrive at the destination. during intimate relations. And he says. this is so serious because that's how he. operates. And he gets a lot of girls. insecure and desperate for him because. the first time you meet a girl and have. intimate relations, she should be. exhausted. And if you don't finish the. race, it will quote psychologically. trick her into thinking she's not good. enough for you. And then he says right. after that, you want to stop texting. her, be cold to her so that she feels.

like something's wrong with her. And he. says, quote, "By doing that, she'll. literally be on a leash and come begging. me to [ __ ] her. And in addition, she'll. try her best to make me finish the. race." You know what finish the race is? What he also writes, we've all seen a. really hot girl go out and marry an. average or deformed guy that isn't rich. or famous. So like, you know, this is. the one time where the wall has been. broken. He's like, a hot girl marries a. guy not hot and not rich.

>> What does that mean? Oh my god. Could it. be that girls just really care about. personality as well? No. The only. explanation is that he successfully kept. her thanks to his intimate game, his sex. game, his banana game. That's what. [clears throat] he says. You know, like. what's happening? When you take your. partner in crime, you need to This is. his um. >> who is this? >> Some random dude on a Looks Maxer forum. And this is like one of the top posts. that everyone's obsessed with. >> He said it's the ultimate guide. And so.

he said, "This is how you know if you. have a good friend down there. You need. to get it and slam it against a desk. It. needs to sound like a [ __ ] hammer. It. needs to be metal, solid, zero. flexibility." Anyway, in order to not. finish the race, you need to do math in. your head. Double the numbers. 4 8 16 32. 64. Or if it gets really bad, think. about your dead grandma. They call that. mental maxing. Your mental maxing has to be strong. [laughter] I swear a lot of these rules. and maxing guides are just written by a. bunch of phonies. They say the only way.

to have a good intimate session is if. she's begging you to stop pushing you. away, crying, screaming. The neighbors. or the police come because she sounds. like she's getting butchered and your. condom breaks multiple times. Somebody call the cops and sue Trojan. because what's happening? How is that an. indicator of a good time? That sounds. like a crime. This is like more. unrealistic. This is as realistic as my. spicy romanty books where one of them is. like a shadow daddy shape shifter. vampire werewolf who knots. Like what? What even is this post? But then you.

have a bunch of guys commenting on the. thread. Holy [ __ ] [snorts]. Good post. Good post. [music] need to. find a void to [ __ ] first. Side note, void is incel shorthand for female. humanoid. It's how incelss refer to. women. It's derogatory. It's. dehumanizing and very quickly indicates. that they've never touched a woman. before. But who am I to stop them from. telling on themselves? One person. comments all this work just to have some. fat ugly [ __ ] commit to you. And again,

I guess I mean maybe if there's just. hookup culture where everyone's just. trying to be hotter so that they can. have the most amount of one night stands. possible. I don't think there's anything. wrong between consenting adults doing. that. But it's also the fact that like a. lot of the looks maxers agree with the. manosphere sentiment that um body count. is one of the most important things for. a girl's value. Yeah. One manosphere of. turd says, [music] "I would like to have. my partner be less experienced and more. loyal so that her sexual compatibility.

is malleable to mine. We get to mold our. sexual partners to our liking and vice. versa, like we're some sort of. Tamagotchi." I think that's a lot more. possible when the partners haven't had. stacked [music] body counts to the sky. They also think that three body count is. high, like atrociously high. They think. even one, if it's not the one you're. married to, is like atrociously high. There was actually a whole debate about. it. Yeah, there was a whole debate on. like I mean everywhere, but there was.

one Jubilee debate where Mark Manson, the self-help guru, was like, "What's. the difference between having one person. that you've had intimate relations with. like a thousand times versus multiple. partners that you've had multiple. relationships with?" It's just weird, but they don't get it. Yeah. Also, this. guy who said that he wants a woman to be. malleable to his sexual preferences, >> not to enforce their idea of looks. maxing, he is not easy on the eyes. It's. just kind of strange, okay? It's just a. lot of demands and it's just weird. And.

they also say things like, "This is. Clvicular." Okay, Clavicular said, quote, "No woman has a political. ideology that she's going to stand by, right? Because they have no backbone. They have no spine with any of their. opinions. >> That's crazy. >> Yeah. Which speaking of Clvicular, he. has a Looks Maxing course that has over. a thousand members and costs $50 a. month, which is a lot of money. Yeah. He. also makes about 80 to $100,000 a month. from streaming. And as I'm filming this,

I decided to go check upon him on TikTok. and he's starting his college tours. I. don't know what that means. I think he's. going to go to college campuses and just. like make an incel army. I don't know. what's happening. But yeah, and in that. promotion for the college course, he's. like making out with this girl and then. his her husband walks in and it's like, haha, >> is this real? >> I mean, I think that's I guess it's a. bit, but. >> I see. >> But like for that to go around in.

college is kind of crazy. >> Yeah. Wow. >> It's very weird. Like I don't know what. the message. What does he do exactly? >> Okay. No, I'm right now. Okay, clvicular is a. very interesting individual that I came. across as of more recently and I. actually the stuff that was showing up. on my Tik Tok algorithm about. clavvicular the girlies were getting. into clavvicular including me. I was. like oh wait this one clip I saw of him. was actually kind of enduring. I don't. know anything about clvicular and then I.

started the research for this case and I. was like oh I take back any sentiment I. had of that because it's it's bad. So, the first thing that I found out about. him, other than like he had this collab. with Wo Vicki. We're going to talk about. it in a second, but was that he spends. just like a lot of money on peptides and. drugs and enhancements every single. month. I don't even know if he's. breaking even at this point with how. much he's making. He said that he. approximately spends like $50 to $80,000. a year on peptides. >> Yeah. >> What exactly is the difference between.

peptides and drugs? I think I mean. peptides is a amino acid that's like. created by protein. I don't know. I. think GLP1s are peptides. >> I think peptides help with lots of. medical issues that people actually. need, but then now people are peptide. maxing. It's kind of giving a more. extreme version of sauna and cold. plunge. So there's like there's a lot of. overlaps with clavvicular because he is. the most presentable mainstream face for.

looks maxing. And if you go down one of. the alleyways, you're going to get a. very different side of clicular because. of your algorithm. So for example, I. would say that my algorithm is not, but. would be more in favor of like Wo Vicki. So like all the Wo Vicki stuff came out. cuz the live stream was going viral. And. then I started getting pushed his. longevity. overlap. >> So like doctors are interviewing him, but he's not a longevity guy, but like. maybe that. And then you actually get. like the red pill overlap where he's. just [ __ ] on women. So there's just.

like lots of weird and then you have the. LOL cow overlap which is just him saying. dumb stuff to get viral. >> but he has a huge digital footprint that. he has tried to erase a good chunk of it. but he growing up was self-identified. I. don't know if he was diagnosed. He says. that he grew up with that he has autism. that he's awkward. He had all of these. he was actually very active on these. forums these lookism forums. >> Yeah. He said that he would try to say. as little words as possible on a daily.

basis. He would wake up early so that he. didn't have to run into people, including his parents, before he went to. school. I think beginning clvicular was. more relatable. He talks about how it's. hard to talk to anybody without being on. some sort of benzoazipene. He just seems. like a really uncomfortable guy who. faced some rejection that may be because. he's not neurotypical, does not. interpret social cues that well, and. that has caused tension in his life and. feels a lot of social anxiety. And that.

is something that I think a lot of. people can relate to. He says that he. started working as a bouncer at a club. after high school. And he said, quote, "I was noticing who was going home with. the pretty girls every night. And I. noticed it was really only about 1 to 2%. of men. So, it was people who were very. tall, people who were very good-looking, something I was noticing over my. formative years when I was a teenager. growing up. So, making these. observations, kind of seeing that. sometimes good-looking people would be. able to go up to women and start making. out with them without saying anything, I. kind of started to shift my worldview a.

little bit and realize this is the most. important metric and I have to go allin. And he says that he purchased. testosterone online when he was 14. So. like illegal testosterone and he's been. taking testosterone since. He also talks. about like testosterone is like a huge. thing. This is where I would say like. the wellness longevity manosphere. slightly overlap and like all of that. But 14 is crazy and he wasn't getting it. from a doctor. He also does the one. thing about clavvicular that I will give. him is he does talk about all the.

downsides. So he just straight up tells. everyone he cannot have kids because his. body does not create testosterone on his. own. He can't have kids. He says that he. can do some sort of therapy later if he. decides to stop taking testosterone and. have kids. I don't know how accurate. that is, but I will give it to him. He. is very open about all the consequences. of the things that he does. So, he's not. trying to make it seem like it's a walk. in the park. He's known for a lot of. other things. One of them being that his. mom had to take away his hammer when he. was a teenager because he kept doing. what he it's referred now in the large.

scheme of things as bone smashing which. is where you repeatedly tap your face. with a hammer to change your face shape. because you're creating all these like. micro fractures. >> Is it true? Like is it like a real. thing, safe thing? >> No. So every doctor has come out and. been like you're just like you could. paralyze your face. You could also hit a. nerve. You're also likely not going to. get symmetrical results. So, you're just.

like swollen and red and inflaming your. face and probably doing more harm than. good. But he said that he would bone. smash ever since he was a teenager. And. then now when you look pictures of him, he's like 20, he looks 30. [music] But I. mean, he looks chiseled. But everyone's. like, how much of that is just his. genetics? There's a clip of him even. using a massage gun to his face, jamming. it in his face, which again, you really. should not do a massage gun for sure. He's also said things about Sydney. Sweeney. Okay. And like, not a lot of. people are Sydney Sweeney fans. However,

he says, "I think she's pretty. malformed. Her upper magzilla is extremely. recessed. She's got the eyes of doom. with no infraorbital support. She's. really not that much of a looker in her. face. I think that a lot of people with. poor [music] brains find her attractive. because of her body. >> Some people think that like Sydney. Sweeney is uh extremely attractive. I. would say that she's pretty malformed. She's really not that much of a looker. in her face. I think that a lot of. people with brains find her attractive.

because of her body. In other podcasts, there are like he'll go on the Fresh and. Fit podcast where he's sitting across. from other women and he's just like. rating their looks or rather listing out. a bunch of random things that he thinks. are wrong about their face, stating her. midface is way too long. Obviously, she's got the jowls coming in, horrible. nasol labial folds, horrible total. facial with the height ratio, just. really bad age indicators, but obviously. at 30, that's not something that's. really going to surprise me. Her inner. maxilla is super recessed, horrible, and.

it's like, you know, her eyes are sunken. in. >> Three out of 10, maybe 2.5. >> Her midface is way too long. Obviously, she's got the jowls coming in. >> Then the next person, he's like really. recessed chin. He's just doing like he's. just doing a lot. And like what do you. expect from the guy? He used to. apparently make anonymous Instagram. accounts when he was in high school and. college and take creepy candid photos of. girls in his class in town, post them on. Instagram, and brutally rate their looks. in the caption. And I think the part. that really annoys me is like in the.

forums, it's definitely a lot of. self-hatred that is transferred to other. guys in the Looks Maxing community and. ultimately to women. But when you see. these famous Looks Maxers and they're. rating people online, for example, that's what he said about Cindy Sweeney, but fine, she's a public figure, whatever. But then you'll have him rate. random girls at a club and just be so. rude, so degrading, and [music] like. nobody asked you like, "Why are you. doing this?" And it's like getting off. on the girls being humiliated. And then.

he'll see another famous live streamer, you know, that is not conventionally. [music] attractive and he'll be so soft. and gentle with how he rates the guy's. looks. It's just very like circle jerk. Yeah. He calls lots of women chagloites, which I guess stands for like a cave. dweller. Basically, a feral human in the. essence of what he's trying to say. He. also even admits he self admits, you. know, I was always a peak hater. I was. like incel incel. However, I guess if.

there's anything to get behind. clavvicular on is when he rips into. politicians, but like the way he does it. is also bizarre. He says, I mean this. next election cycle, who's going to win? It's going to be Gavin Newsome against. JD Vance. And because JD Vance is. subhuman and Gavin Newsome Mogs, he's. going to win. >> JD Vance is subhuman and Gavin Newsome. Mugs. >> The person interviewing him asks him, "Jie Vance is subhuman. Like, what makes. you say that?" And also, the person. interviewing him is like a super. alt-right podcaster. >> Mhm. >> So, they're all like trying to get him. into the alt-right line. Okay. And then.

he's like, he's got a very short total, you know, facial width to height ratio. He's obese. Very recessed side profile. Whereas Newsome is like a 63 Chad. >> JD Vance is subhuman. He's got a very. short total facial width to height. ratio. He's obese. Uh very recessed side. profile. Whereas Newsome is like 63. [music]. Chad. [laughter]. >> He also states that he disagrees with. Nuome's politics. So he's like very. MAGA. But but he is going to vote for.

Democrat Newsome because he moss. >> What is this world? >> Like I can't tell. I really cannot. decide if this is funny or if this is. like catastrophic foreshadowing for the. future of humanity in our country where. we're just voting for like the hottest. moggers. >> Wow. I mean, he's on brand, I guess. >> Yeah. He's saying that sarcastically, by. the way. But he also says it's just. embarrassing for the president of the. country to be fat. He says, "How are you. fat and you expect to lead a country? You can't even be in shape. >> How are you you fat and you expect to.

like lead a country? You can't even be. in shape." But he's also very seemingly. supportive of the Trump administration, which is not I don't know if any of. these people are like symbolic of health. and fitness, but I mean, they're all old. as well, but I don't know. I don't know. He also says in stream, "My grandma. texted me today and she was like, stop. making fun of JD Vance." And I was like, "Oh my god, bro. I'm not going to do. that. He's fat and he's ugly. No thank. you, grandma." And for someone who is so. heavily on the right, he says some weird. things. He has this one video that has.

gone semiviral in I mean I didn't see it. up until the research of this video so I. guess in very specific circulating. groups but he says would Charlie Kirk. have gotten assassinated if he were a. Chad? [music] Probably not. Here's why. Good-looking people experience something. called the halo effect. So it's quite. possible that if Charlie were to be. better looking someone wouldn't have. hated him enough to assassinate him. >> So I don't really know. He's like he. hangs out a lot with the alt-right. people like Nick Fuentes really likes.

Nick Fuentes. He said he would vote for. Nick Fuentes if he runs for president. So he is very aligned with the alt-right. pipeline and the manosphere. However, it's confusing because he's also like. [ __ ] on them at the same time. So it. doesn't make any sense. It's just weird. I think he just goes for whatever is. lucrative. That's why it makes zero. sense. He's also said things like, "I. hate politics." So, whoever wants to. give me the fattest bag, let's be real. And he said, "I'll go each and every.

way, brother.". >> What do all the Look Maxers like forums. or people think about him since he's. like the poster child now? Do they. approve of him? Do they think he's the. giga Chad? Is that the energy or. >> Yeah, I think they all like him except I. don't know if they think he's a giga. Chad. There's some more smaller. We're. going to talk about him next. Mason. Hull, otherwise known as Hulo, the one. from the beginning of this story. I. think a lot of people think he's more. representative of an aesthetic Chad.

>> Oh, >> yeah. >> From what I could see, what do you. expect from Clavicular Clavicle Clav? I. just don't know how much his brain can. handle after he's loaded up with every. substance under the sun. It seems he. also like live streamed his friend. putting him in a chokeold. >> and then when he was released from the. chokeold, he went limp and started. convulsing on the ground. He also. seemingly overdosed during a live. stream. He was slurring his speech on. live. There's videos of him being. carried out of the bar and taken to a. hospital. And when I say carried, it's. not just like a security guy supporting.

his weight. He's fully being carried by. two dudes down the stairs. I don't know if Clvicular popularized. bone smashing, but he apparently partook. in it. So, he shows himself a lot using. trophies and hammers, just hitting his. face, which you know, there's also. pictures that he shows where his entire. face is so swollen, he can barely open. his eyes. And he says that he would show. up to work like that every single time. Like, it just his whole face looks like. he's wearing Rare Beauty blush on the.

top of his cheekbones because he's been. hammering it so hard. It's not even. giving hunter eyes, it's giving pink. eye. He said that he used to go into. work every day looking like that because. he would bone smash so hard. He's done. an interview where he talks about. everything that he takes on a daily. basis. And I don't know how true any of. this is or if he's doing it for shock. value, but equally problematic, right? He says, "I'm taking testosterone every. single day. I take minoxidil for my. hair. I take Dutasteride for my hair. I. take 7.5 milligs of Accutane a day. I. use Crystal Meth as a stimulant to Lean.

Max. It's much more mild than Adderall, actually. And I'm pretty much using meth. for hollow cheeks.". >> Testosterone replacement. Yeah. Okay. >> I mean, I like cocaine. Well, math might. be cardiotoxic over the long term. >> You do math? >> Yeah, I haven't done math in in two. weeks, but I I I do math. Yeah. >> Wait, he's just openly admitting. what's going on. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> What is going on? >> He says, "Models will do Coke to get. their appetite to go away, but meth just. lasts a lot longer." He says, "For 3. days, I spammed a combination of.

Adderall and methamphetamine for. appetite suppression. I literally went. on a 3-day fast and stayed awake the. entire time. I lost 5 lbs." He's asked, "Did it feel good?" And he says, "Of. course, it's [ __ ] meth." He's also. taken like anabolic steroids, um, which. is not even approved for human usage at. this point. It's just for animals. It's. called like trenolone or something. >> So, there's a lot that can go wrong if. you're not very careful with using. anabolic steroids for those reasons with. how complex it is. I don't openly.

advocate for anyone to do this. Right. >> And he talks about it. He also talks. about how he takes pregab and blephin. pills, which it's supposed to mimic the. feeling of being drunk, but you cannot. take them long term because you probably. potentially are going to get. Parkinson's, especially if you don't. need these drugs, which he does not need. them. And in another clip to I don't. know how many viewers that take his. words like the gospel, he says, "You. should be on your computer for hours. researching, creating yourself a. regimen. I mean, how can I ascend? What. can I do? Not worried about what kind of.

side effects could I get from this? What. could go wrong? How about what could go. right? Side note, ascend is just another. masculine repackaging for the concept of. glowing up and clavvicular is nothing if. not committed to his ascension. He says. for him he was ordering illegal. testosterone. He would get it into a PO. box. And he says I'm just someone who is. willing to do whatever needs to be done. So I would just reorder it to a PO box. instead. A lot of people will come after. my parents for the things that I did. But realistically, no one was stopping. me. I was committed to my goal. But I'm. just someone who, you know, is willing.

to do whatever [music]. needs to be done. So I would just. reorder it to PO box instead. Like you. know, a lot of people will come after my. parents for the things [music] that I. did. But realistically, no one was. stopping me. I was committed to uh my. goal and I wasn't going to let anyone. get away. >> He even gets kicked out of college for. roid maxing. So he would brag about how. he's roid maxing on these forums and. someone called his college. They raided. his dorm room, found a bunch of. steroids. steroids in my dorm room and I. got kicked out. I only lasted three.

weeks. >> Oh, that's literally how he got kicked. out of school. >> and then started his influencer career. and uh he why not just work out and not. use steroids. He says natty gains are. slow and gay. Natty means natural in the. world of I don't know what world that. is, okay? But he says, "I am the pioneer. of mainstream plastic surgery for men's. aesthetics." He thinks the future is. quote every [ __ ] will have some. sort of titanium implant in their face. Rhinoplastes are being handed out like. it's [ __ ] food stamps. He says you.

can actually get college loans and use. it for surgery. So this is a method. So. I've been telling people you can. literally do that. So just. misappropriating the funds, it's really. not going to get you in that much. trouble and you'll mog so you'll be able. to sort of get out of it. >> This is crazy. And for someone who. spends so much time and energy into. mogging, he just like continuously goes. viral for getting outmoged by random. people. He was interviewed by 60 Minutes. where he's just mogged by the reporter. He goes to meet an ASU frat leader, which that was like a fake narrative.

Apparently, he's not a frat leader. Apparently, he is a bodybuilder, but he. gets brutally framemoged. Like, he does. get mogged. And then later, the judge. presiding over one of his cases because. he was arrested a few times. I'm going. to get into that. But the judge moss the. [ __ ] out of him. Holy cow. Okay. Like. moss him really hard and he's just going. around getting mogged. >> So, how does he take that when he gets. outmoged? >> He's actually like the one thing about. clvicular I will say. >> is he's like very open to being. embarrassed. >> Oh, >> he's just like I got outmoged.

>> Okay. Does he does that motivate him to. smash his face more? Is that what. happened? >> Yeah. Okay. But he like I guess that's. the part where maybe he gets a lot of. attention and fame because he's not like. weird about it cuz you would imagine a. lot of guys would be like. >> I didn't get mugged but he's just like. Yeah, why the [ __ ] did I get mogged? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So it's. >> Yeah. So his his his like nose nose. proportion is just 2% better than mine. >> Yeah. Probably pulling up Adobe. Photoshop. The looks maxers love Adobe.

Photoshop. They love to get like the. little measuring tool and then do the. facial thirds. And the way they do it, like I'm watching their screen. recordings, it's so smooth. I'm like, >> "Wow.". >> Oh my god. Are you looking for a job? Yeah. >> Crazy. Wow. So, they are serious about. this. This is not not a not a bit. >> No. >> Wow. >> This is a lifestyle. >> Interesting. >> Yeah. But he does sort of get a. redemption arc even though I don't know. Okay. He's also the one that said that.

we need to go back to the patriarchy. times as if we somehow escaped it. As if. women are just like incapable of holding. themselves to any moral code. That's. what he said. He Yeah. Yeah. He thinks. we need to go back to a patriarchy and. that Nick Fuentes should be president. He would vote for Nick Fuentes or Gavin. Newsome if it's up between Gavin Newsome. and JD Vance. It's going to be Gavin. Newsome against JD Vance because JD. Vance is subhuman and Gavin Newsome mug. >> But he goes viral because this is.

basically the Clvici era. Wo Vicki and. Clvicular have a live stream collab and. Wo Vicki is an interesting person. I. have not dived into the lore of Wo. Vicki. So, please correct me if I'm. wrong and excuse me if I have any. misconceptions, but what I know about Wo. Vicki and Bad Baby are those two. individuals seem like they grew up on. the internet and have probably been. through so much that people almost have.

like a soft spot for both of them, right? And well, Vicki, she I don't know. if she's been on I don't know what's. happened, but anyway, she was in a. collaboration with him and she asks him. if he has autism. And this is something. that he talks about very openly where he. feels like even looks maxing is a. hyperfixation of his autism. He talks. about how growing up it was difficult. for him and it seems like he could feel. a little sensitive to it about it but. wicki is just like oh I don't even mean. to be funny like I love people with. autism. They normally attract they.

attract to me like they attract like my. little brothers and sisters all have. autism. And so he actually seems like. he's into it and he's smiling a lot. She. also points out that he must be real. rich because his Rolex has diamonds in. it and she's never seen a Rolex with. diamonds in it. She asks if he knows. anything about cortisol being recessed. She like cortisol or your stress levels. and then recessed. I think she's talking. about like the chin going in. But uh he. points out that she's just combining a. bunch of random words that the.

[laughter] looks maxing community have. and everyone just started shipping them. because he actually seems to be really. nice to her. like he's this is how. little he's nice to girls. >> and he seems like most of his live. streams are him going to clubs in Miami. >> and either flirting with girls and. getting rejected or being mean to girls. and he's actually quite nice to her at. least in the viral clips and he asks her. well you think we'd have good kids. together and she's like yeah I think. they'd be cute and he said probably from. your side mostly.

>> what you don't think we'd have good kids. together. >> um yeah I think they'd be cute. >> and she's like no you look nice too. And. he's like, "You look better. I think you. got me a little bit." So, they're. flirting a lot. And he even says, this. is a viral clip where he says, "Godamn, Vicki, I wish I met you 5 years ago. >> God, god damn Vicki, I wish I met you 5. years ago.". >> So, it almost made people feel like, oh, like then he wouldn't have gone down. this very self-destructive looks maxing. spiral and they would have ridden off. into the sunset together.

>> Yeah. At some point, she asks to pray. for him because she's very religious. now. And she asks him, "Is there. anything Pacific?" And he's very. confused. She's like, "In the Pacific?". And she responds, "Yeah, like you want. me to pray for you?" And he's like, "I. don't really know any animals in the. [laughter]. >> He's trying to be funny.". >> Yeah. No, I think he's for real. >> Oh, okay. Okay. >> So, it's just like the mixture of like. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got it. The vibe. I. get the vibe. >> The neuro neuro divergent and like the. also neurode divergent, but like very.

different types of neurode divergent. combining together. And it was just very. cute. They also set up a mini date. because the initial stream went so well. and it did seem like they had some bit. of history or chemistry. It just it was. nice. People noticed that W Vicki was. the only girl that he was actively. laughing around. He seemed very genuine. Like there are parts where Wick is on. her phone during the date and he's like. it's not nice to be on your phone during. the date and she's like oh sorry. And. then he asked her if there are times. where she's without her phone. She. responds sometimes she actively lets her.

phone die and there was a time she. didn't have her phone for two days. because it wasn't charged and he's like. what did you do during those two days. and she mentions quite cutely used other. people's phones so it's just like really. cute right however I do think it was for. clout so the very initial stream this. part did not go viral but he actually. kicked Wo Vicki out of his stream the. very first stream cuz she was using some. sort of product and he was accusing her. of doing an undisclosed ad on his live. stream and she swore it was not an ad.

And then he wanted her to swear her hand. on the Bible and she said she didn't. want to cuz that made her uncomfortable. religiously speaking and so he kicked. her out of the live stream. >> like out of the house. >> Okay. >> But then those clips, the flirting clips. from the initial live stream started. going viral and people started shipping. them. So then he asked her to come back. to do like a little date live stream. So. I don't know about Will Vicki's. intentions. She seems pretty genuine, but I think Clvicular.

>> was going where the clout was going. >> Oh, I see. I see. Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. But also like what do you. expect? Like this is a random blip of. rebranding and virality that he had. And. this like the wo Vicki clips actually. pushed him to people like me, like just. people who didn't really know him. And I. was like a like I've heard about him. I. don't know any of the stuff that he. said. I just know like looks maxing is a. weird concept. But it was so cute. It. almost wants you to you you want to. support them. >> Yeah.

>> But then you look into it. Okay. And. he's also said these types of things. during a live stream. Chat, I'm not. going to lie. My mom literally got fat. after she had me. >> Dude, chat, I'm not going to lie. My mom. literally like uh got like after she had. me. >> He also talks about girls like this. You. think I want to know about your [ __ ]. hobbies? >> [ __ ] I want to get in your [ __ ]. pants. Goddamn it. I want to [ __ ] you. And I want to convince you that I'm not. trying to [ __ ] you, which is why I'm. having the conversation. So, how about. you do me the courtesy of telling me. where at least went wrong, okay? Just so.

I can know. He will just tell girls that. their heads are full of [ __ ] Your. [ __ ] skull is full of [ __ ] instead of. brain. Yeah. He also likes to say that. the best things to come out of. self-driving cars, like Whimo, is my. favorite usage of self-driving Ubers is. to send stupid hoes off the [ __ ] end. of the Santa Monica Pier in a. self-driving car. He says in another video, "Unless you're. a Chad, you will never experience what. it's like to have a girl look at you and. be truly in love. I see so many people, they're making all this money, they got. all these cars, but they've got a face.

that only a mother could love. I'm not. telling you not to money max." But I'm. telling you that until you maximize the. looks along with it, you will never know. what it's like. And that's a horrible. reality to face. It's truly sad and most. people won't get it. They'll cope their. way around it. Oh, look at all these. girls. But no girl will ever be able to. look at them and truly be in love. He's. also cried on stream because he ordered. a burger and there was cheese on there. and he's not cheesemaxing. One of his. team members was interviewed by GQ and. they state he just does butter bagel no.

cream cheese. Do not hand him a [ __ ]. burger with cheese on it. He will. [ __ ] throw that [ __ ] at you. He goes. on to websites like you know those. random chat websites where it links you. with another person on a video call, a. random stranger like Omegle or whatever. those. >> and he just tells people how ugly they. are. In one clip, he says a girl is. gross for being overweight, but also. because she spoke in quote Ebonics. He also says that there's another guy. who outmogs him, but quote, "But he's. black." He's also said the n-word before.

repeatedly, I think, on stream. He's. also just like promoting bottom of the. barrel care when it comes to sexual. health. He says, "Dude, it's been. burning to piss. It only means one. thing." Usually, it goes away on its own. after a while, but I don't know. I'm. trying to think of who even could have. given it to me. You know, chat, put. predictions in the chat on who gave me. this [ __ ] fired up peen. And he says. that he's not going to get an STD test. because he can't live stream it. So, what's the point? [music] In another. stream, he takes a woman back into his. room. So, his friend, there's it's him.

and his friend and two women show up. They're live streaming in the living. room of Clvicular's house, or at least. it looks like it. and Clvicular takes. one of the girls into his bedroom. Eh, um, after they do whatever they do. in the bedroom, which I would imagine. that they're both, you know, consenting. adults at this point, there's nothing. wrong with it. However, it's wrong that. afterwards she's off camera in the live. stream. He's sitting in front of his. little computer chair live streaming and. he's shaming her in front of his chat,

calling her a dumpster for giving up her. butt. Those are his words in like 5. minutes of meeting him. you gave up your butt in like 5 minutes. of meeting. [music]. I thought of a nickname for for you. Um, come dumpster. >> Then he asks her to sit [music] in frame. on camera so he can probably humiliate. her more. And she refuses and he says, >> "Listen up, Po. You got to learn to how. to listen. Women not listening is like.

makes me want toing kill myself. >> Just sit in the [ __ ] chair and stop. being a [ __ ] If you don't sit there, you can get out." Then he tells her is. insane. >> that she's basically an escort for how. quickly they had intimate relations, which like same could be said about you, but whatever. And he tells her, "I liked. it. I liked it. Okay, you're a fun time. Let's do it again. Let's do it again.". She rejects and the chat is donating. money so that they can have their. comment read out audibly and like tell. me what's the difference between this. and incels. And they have the audible. comment read,

>> "Walk of shame just to take $2. She is. regretting being a little hoe. Now she. has to do the walk of shame out of the. room. >> She rejects uh wanting to have anything. to do with Clav anymore after this. And. it she says it just wasn't that good. To. which he bluntly responds, >> I'm on pregab. I can't get hard. >> And it's like not only is it very. misogynistic and inappropriate, I will. say there's like a huge layer of just. depression around it. Like just watching. it, it's like so. >> wow. You did all of that so you could.

sleep with women and then. why are you being so mean and then you. look so miserable throughout the whole. process and then you're pushing it onto. your live chat audience to do the same. thing. Like what a meaningless life. He. also says that every woman is pretty. much a hoe. He says, "I'm telling you, once a girl is not a virgin, her value. is nothing. One body is a hoe." He also. says things like, "I don't really like a. woman who tries to be super educated. either and try to have these intelligent. conversations because a lot of the times. you could," and this is talked about by.

Socrates a lot. >> Like [music] a woman could be very well. educated, but that doesn't make them a. good thinker. So, they just might have a. like a lot of these like facts in their. brain, maybe from books they've read. They don't necessarily know how to. interpret them properly. Uh they won't. make the right conclusions. So, I just. don't want a wife who's like wanting to. argue about like, you know, politics and. like that all the time. >> He also ran someone over with his car. Okay, it wasn't just a random. pedestrian. I will say that it is a guy.

that is known to be kind of a. professional streamer follower. Some. people call him a stalker. I don't know. if I should call him that, but it he he. shows up in a lot of live streams where. he just like harasses fathers streamers. during their life and he finds them. somehow or maybe by coincidence runs. into them in public spaces. He did hop. onto the hood of Clvicular's Cyber Truck. and was like laying there like a gremlin. like foaming at the mouth. And uh. Clvicular just started driving and ran.

over him and Clvicular is also live. streaming and he asks the girl holding. the phone in the passenger seat. Is he. dead? >> Is he dead? >> I don't know. >> Hopefully. >> And then he says, "Hopefully." And then. right after that, he posted an AI. generated picture on X of him running. the guy over and he captions it, "Play. stupid games, win stupid prizes." I will. say like maybe the guy is not the most. sympathetic victim. He's alive. He did. not die. But ultimately the guy decides. not to press charges which means. clicular is free to say whatever he.

wants about it because later at a club. people are like some girl is like why. are you so famous? I don't who are you? And he says it's cuz I ran a guy over. with my car. Well there was another. incident that resulted in a charge. He. was collabing with another live streamer. Jenny Pop Patch. I think she is also I. don't know. I I did some light digging. and there are some I don't know if. they're controversial, but like. controversies with her apparently. I. don't know, but she's live streaming. with Clav. Clav has a girlfriend [music]. and apparently it.

>> he has a girlfriend. >> Yeah. I don't know if they're still. together, but Jenny has come out to say. that she felt like she was set up. [music] because Clav would like flirt. with her and she thought it was for the. bit. >> I realized that I was set up by Clav and. his girlfriend. So she would kind of. flirt back cuz you know they're all like. content creators or whatever. And then. eventually she goes to the house where. Clav's girlfriend is and Clav is holding. Jenny's arms back while the girlfriend. is just like beating on Jenny. And. there's a live stream clip of it. >> Yeah. >> Like actually beating.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> What is going on? >> And then he shot an alligator in a marsh. in the Florida Everglades. He shot out a. drone. There are also new allegations. against him from his ex-girlfriend who. stated that she she accuses him of. essaying her when she was 16. And this. clip has circulated online not of the. essay but the next allegation that she. has which is he injected her face with. Aqualix the fat dissolver on camera. He. was 19, she was 17, and he was not.

licensed to perform any such injection. Which, by the way, that that injection. clip was so dangerous to even watch. because she looks so nervous. He to me, it feels like she's peer pressured into. this. And then afterwards, she's like, "I. think you went through my cheek." And. you can see her kind of move her tongue. inside her mouth, and she's like, "I. think the needle went through my cheek.". Right? cuz that could cause nerve dam. like you never know what you're doing.

and then she even worriedly asks him. like am I going to get like facial. paralysis and he's like no. >> you guys marin. >> needles this is how they do. >> they don't take out 20 different needles. >> you went through like. I'm sorry I. >> also the whole time the live chat is. talking about how she's a bucket she's a. minor and also he's getting donations. from users that go by Jeff Epstein. So, she's suing Clvicular in a civil.

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This is a paid advertisement. Do you guys know Jian? So Jian is part. of. I don't even know how to categorize. Like there's a lot of categories of. YouTubers where they all do different. things as their form of content. It's. hard to say that Jonian fits into like. the predator hunter category. He does, but he also like does other content. I.

think he started off as like a prank. YouTuber. Here's the thing about Jian. I. know that as of recently there has been. some controversies of he was friendly. with another YouTuber who maybe he did. not align, I think, in political values. with. I think there was like a whole. thing there. Um I didn't do a deep dive. into it and then I do believe that he. was arrested briefly where I mean it was. not really like a substantial charge. I. they were live streaming trying to go. into a McDonald's. The cops were called. It was a whole thing. Okay. It was the.

footage of the body cam of the arrest. Jian was acting like an influencer would. when they get arrested trying to film. content. It was, you know, the generic. variation of like, "Do you know who I. am? Do you know how much money I make? >> No. >> Yeah, that kind of situation. Um, so. that was just like a really bad look. But I think other than that, it seems. from the very light research that I've. done, Jian is someone that everyone.

thinks is like a relatively like. hopefully net positive in the world. Like he is putting people behind bars. He doesn't go as far as some other. predator hunters and he just has like a. very unique way of doing it. Like I. think if you've seen any viral clips of. him, there's cops arresting predators, pedophiles, and he's just like selfie. recording himself, and he's just like, "Hey guys, [sighs] so this one's going. to jail. Am I right?" Like, >> this is Angel right now. He's having a. mental breakdown. His dogs are at home.

by themselves, so we're going to have to. find out a way to get them taken care. of. He came here to meet a 15-year-old. girl. This is the new addition to the. team. Anthony and wife Fred Hunters a. part of EDP watch. Now we just did this. We're in Brooklyn, New York. >> Very that vibe and it's just kind of. jarring to see the juxiposition of like. his very casualness along with the. circumstances, but also like it's hard. to hate on a guy who helps put people. behind bars. >> Mhm. >> Right. Anyway, he decides that he's.

going to I believe the ex-girlfriend I. believe Mason Hull's ex-girlfriend Liv. reaches out to him and she's explaining. like I was dating this guy for 8 months. His name is Mason Hull and he is a looks. maxer. He does have a Tik Tok following. of like a couple hundred thousand. followers that's growing now now that. he's been arrested which is crazy. But. he's nowhere near clvicular. He's like a. small Looks maxer probably like 200,000. on Tik Tok. And she's like, I was going. through his phone and I found CS Sam. I. thought he was cheating on me. I found.

CSM. I went to the police. They're going. to investigate it and I've given them. like she recorded it on her phone. >> So, she's like scrolling through the. Teleg messages. Gave that all to the. police immediately after leaving, which. like huge kudos to her because there was. no like I'm going to confront him and. like some people were worried cuz. sometimes like like Gain Maxwell, you. know, you've got people who stay for. whatever fame, whatever. Anyway, but. they were like, "Kudos to her." She. left, got the evidence, left straight to. the police, didn't come online. She's.

not trying to go viral with it. She did. exactly [music] what you're supposed to. do. Police are investigating and it. starts getting leaked here and there. that something's going on with Mason. Hull. And Jitton [music]. is like, "Okay, I want to cover this. case." But he also knows if he starts. reaching out, cuz I think at this point. the ex-girlfriend hadn't [music] reached. out to him. if he starts asking around. how to get in contact with Mason Hull's. ex-girlfriend, Mason Hull Holo is going. to know what's happening. So, he decides.

he's going to play an uno reverse. That's how he describes [music] it. He's. going to go on the Discord and debunk. the Hulo accusation. >> So, what I did was I put in my Discord, yo, this looks like a nutburger. It's. fake. And the prred himself literally. posted it on his own TikTok. >> So, there were whispers that something's. going on with Hulu, like you know, weird. charges, like something's going on. And. he Jion goes online and he's like, "No, it's not true. They're all fake." Okay. >> Really? Oh, he's trying to play Hulu's. side. >> Yes. So, it's a whole ordeal. I mean,

all of the videos are on Jidion's. YouTube channel. There's a handful of. them. There's interviews after the fact. There's just a lot. So, please go watch. all of those in its entirety so that you. can get a really good idea of what's. going on. But, they decide that they're. going to confront Hulo. Okay. So, Jidion, and then you have this guy Alex. from Predator Poachers. I don't really. know much about him, but um [music] and. then you have Liv, who is the. ex-girlfriend. So, those three are going. to show up to Hulu's apartment and. [music] confront him. >> Wait, I'm so sorry. How where did we go.

from? So, he was defending Hulo. >> Only because he knew that he wanted to. do this video. >> Why did he do that? So, the girlfriend. reached out to him. >> It seems like it. >> Oh, so then why is he defending Hulu. again? >> Because they're going to show up to. Hulu's house. And if he didn't defend, then I think that like he wouldn't let. them in and talk to them. Like it was. like a whole Is that what it is? >> Yeah, I think that's why. I mean, he can. probably explain it better. You know, it's not really the strongest aspect of. this case in terms of the actual case. itself, the criminal charges. Okay. Honestly, the only reason you need to.

know about this Discord chat is because. some people are upset with Jitton for. even posting that on Discord in the. first place, even though it was part of. a grander scheme. And then second of. all, at one point in the video, you're. going to see Jidion almost comically. pull out an Uno reverse card on Hulu's. face. So that's really the only reason. you need to even have this context. >> So when he first meet Hulu, Hulo thought. that Jion is on his side. >> Yes. But like, okay, see that's it's. difficult because Jon is someone who.

catches predators. >> So if you don't know anything about. Jidion other than that and Jidon shows. up to your front door, you're not going. to let him in, >> right? Especially if you're a predator, right? So then with that Discord. message, it seemed like maybe Hoola was. more open to letting him in. >> Okay. Okay. So, does Hula know that. they're coming? >> No. >> Oh, it's a surprise. >> Yeah. Okay. >> So, they get to Florida. They are in the. back seat. That's like how the video. opens. And you just see Alex from. Predator Poachers. I know nothing about. that man. Liv, Jul's ex-girlfriend. Jion.

on the other side. They're all like. crammed into the back seat. And Liv says. that after she left Hulo's place, she. went straight to the police. And she did. confront him on the phone after. She. says he was just sobbing, calling me. Absolutely sobbing, telling me he wants. to talk to me and he's so sorry and. he'll change. He'll go to therapy and. he's, you know, doing all of this and. now he has demons inside of him. Just. all that type of [ __ ] So, they show. up to his apartment door and they knock. on the door. They're filming with their. iPhones and Hulo opens up shirtless and.

his hair is a mess. He looks like he. just woke up. And Alex from Predator. poachers tells him like, "I don't want. any neighbors to overhear anything and. then call anybody and just have a [ __ ]. show. Is it cool if we go inside and. talk about it over hushed voices? None. of us have any weapons or anything crazy. like that. Is it cool if we come in, >> Mason? Before anything, I don't want any. neighbors to overhear anything and then. call anybody and just have a [ __ ] show. Is it cool if we just go inside and talk. about it in hush voices? None of us have. any weapons or anything like that or any. crazy shit.". >> So, they're just like trying to convince. Hulu to let them in. So, at this point,

Liv, the ex-girlfriend is like waiting. in the car. Oh, >> you know, so it's just Gideon and Alex. and their cameraman. >> Mhm. >> I don't even know if their cameraman was. there. Okay. So, it's just like. basically Alex and Jon. Jion says, you. know, when we went over to his house, we. knock, he opens the door, he sees me and. Alex, and I [ __ ] you not, I saw the life. leave his face. [music] So, they start, you know, try to convince him to get in. And most of it is like, you don't want. the neighbors over here. So, Mason Hulo, hello, lets them in. And Alex is saying. things like, "Before anything, like you.

know, is any of that [ __ ] on Telegram, is it stuff you made yourself or did. some [ __ ] just send that crap to. you?". >> Is any of that [ __ ] on Telegram? Is it. stuff you made yourself or did some. [ __ ] just send that crap to you? >> So, a lot of it is like them trying to. play his side like an investigator, which is something that they do in most. of their videos. I think objectively the. way that they are able to communicate. with people is really cool and is not. cool. cool is not the right word is. effective and is something that I guess.

people could learn from. However, I will. say a lot of these videos, a lot of the. content is not admissible in court. >> So, just keep that in mind, right? And. civilians cannot go around playing. detective and get confessions out of. people. It's not going to fly like that. in most courtrooms. And he's just like, well, I didn't make anything myself. So. he says that he, you know, they're. asking him all the questions of, "Did. you know how old these kids were?" Like. these victims in the videos, >> the youngest age that you saw that these.

people sent to you. I don't even know. >> And [music] he just says he doesn't. know, but he just felt really guilty. about it. And this is where Jian comes. in. And Jideion is someone that after my. very light research on him, he he has. this phenomenal ability to say the most. unhinged things with [music] an complete. and absolute straight face. And he just. asks and clarifies. He's like, "You felt. guilty after you came." And he's like, "After I just watched the videos and. stuff, I felt guilty and I just couldn't. I don't know. I just had to delete. everything.".

>> I just felt guilty about it after. >> like after you came. >> Yeah. Like after I just watched the. videos and stuff, I just felt guilty and. I know I just had to delete everything. >> And Mason Hulo starts giving them lots. of different excuses. He said, "I wasn't. trying to go for younger, younger, younger. I was honestly just trying to. go for a little younger than I am. >> Trying to go for like younger, younger, younger. I was honestly just trying to. go for a little younger than I am. >> He says, you know, because he's still. like 18. He just wanted to see in the 16.

to 18 range specifically, which is. already a crime. It's bad, right? But he. that's his excuse. However, that's not. the truth because Liv already told. Jidion the girls were like three, six, seven, eight. >> Yeah. Not that it would be okay if they. were 16, 17, but or even 18 and forced. into this, right? But were there was it. just girls or boys or both? He responds. both. Mostly probably women. >> Boys or girls or both? >> Both. Okay. Mostly probably women.

>> I would hardly even call 18-year-old. girls women, let alone little children. that are nowhere near the label of. women. Side note, the videos in. possession are very bad. According to. the police file, in one file it reads, "The victim is between the ages of 8 and. 10. She is being restrained by a device, so she can't fight back. She's like tied. up.". >> While another victim is even younger, 6. to 8 years old, and in short, according. to the police report, she is being. essayed and she's crying. Then in one of.

the longer videos, there is an 8 to. 10year-old little child who is also. screaming and crying during the duration. of the video. And that's just what's. listed in this specific police file. It. does state that in his possession, he. had more than 10 images and videos. These are just three that we know of. In. Jiann's video, he's asked, you know, if. it appeared to him like the children, the victims were in pain. And Hulo. responds, I mean, it seemed like they. were probably just numb or drugged up. It seemed like they weren't really. saying anything.

>> Did it seem like the kid was in pain? I. mean, it seemed like they were probably. just numb or drugged up. It seemed like. they weren't really. >> also Hulu the entire time his demeanor. is just like like this and his eyes are. just like soullessly staring into the. camera. >> Wait, what? How is he out? He's not. arrested after the. >> um. >> the girlfriend's report. >> No. So, they had to go through and I. guess figure it out. >> Is he still out? >> No, no, no, no. >> Okay. >> I think Jion was on it quick, though. So, it's not like there was a week in.

between. I think it was like the next. day after the girlfriend reported to the. police that Jitton was in Florida. >> Wow. Okay. >> Jidian states that Liv, the. ex-girlfriend, had told him that as she. was going through his phone, she also. discovered that he was looking up videos. of animals being harmed, which raised a. lot of alarms in her brain because they. had just gotten a kitten together. >> She saw in his search bar he was trying. to find videos of animals being harmed. And you know what's crazy? They just. bought a kitten.

>> Now, Hulu later says that that's not. true at all and that she's like half. making up stuff just to make him look. bad. But like I don't really trust Hulu. at all. >> Yeah. It's like if she. >> I have I have brand new kittens that I. love with all my heart in my room. That. just obviously doesn't add up to what. she's saying with that. >> Obviously, that's not even the most. alarming part. The most alarming part. aside from the alleged purchasing and. possessing of CCM is the fact that he. has a little sister around [music] 10.

years old, which according to the police. report, a lot of the victims depicted. were in that age range. He also has a. little sister that's an infant. And they. ask him, so Jitton and Alex are asking, confronting him, were there any. thumbnails in there to where the body. shape of that girl or boy looked the. same age as your little sister? Did was. there any thumbnails in there to where. the body shape of that girl or boy. looked the same as your little sister? That's. >> He says, "That's not what I wanted to. look at. Obviously, you didn't watch it,

but you did see there was a body type. that looked like your 10-year-old. sister." Probably yes. >> Probably yes. >> Were they white, Asian, black? He. responds, >> "I want to watch more white people.". >> He says that he just like he didn't. really try to look for younger. He just. bought a package basically and he was. just swiping and self-pleasuring. But specifically, if you note back to. the alleged screen recording of the. messages, the seller is saying things. like seam teens all groups. So it seems.

like he's I mean he specifically asked. for seam. >> Mhm. So, and not that it would make it. better if he was watching teenagers, but. it's just like he keeps trying to be. like, "Oh, I didn't want Younger. It. just happened to be in there and I was. just swiping." And there's like this. really weird part. I I get what they're. trying to do, but they're like, "So, your hand was down there the whole. time?" And they're like, "Was it moving. up and down?" Like, they're trying to. get him to admit that he was getting.

gratif, you know, gratification out of. watching. But. >> did you make those videos of the Was. your hand going up and down? He said. that he was just watching normal [ __ ]. and his body and mind just got curious. and craved more. He says, quote, >> "I felt extremely guilty after and I. still do till this day.". >> So, Jitton leaves and this is pretty. much like a I wouldn't say a confession. in the legal sense, but as close to. admitting to the crimes as you can get. on video, okay? Like, it's pretty damn.

near there. And after he leaves, Hulu's. response is doing things like posting a. selfie of him at the gym with looks. maxing music. And he writes on there, "No stress. There's always two sides to. a story. Coincidence that she's overly. pushing trying to get this out on social. media after us separating. Easiest way. to spread misled information is online. and therefore I will release with a. video on my behalf. With time, the truth. will reveal itself. Stay tuned.". >> What? Another one reads, "Making a meme. joke about a matter like that doesn't.

seem serious. She says it destroyed her. career. Why is she having a great time. now that it's out? Think about framing. someone online that there's only so many. options. They are smart." I don't know. The peptides have infiltrated his gray. matter and they're wreaking havoc. because I don't know what this means. He. also posts screenshots between his. ex-girlfriend and someone else that in. my opinion, I don't know how legitimate. these messages are. They just seem super. fake. It shows his exgirlfriend. allegedly messaging someone. Hi, do you.

have the messages I sent? [music] They. respond, "Yeah." She responds, "Good. We. are going to set him up. Everyone is. going to think he is a PDF." Liv was. like, "Those messages are fake." No one. believes those, right? Cuz that's. exactly how someone talks when they're. going undercover to take down a small. public figure, right? That's exact. Furthermore, Hulu's ex-girlfriend states. that they didn't even have enough money. to buy food and he was and this is not. her complaining like, "Oh, he wasted our. money." This is her saying like that's.

the level of deprivity like. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> She's like he's using whatever money. they did have to purchase CSAM. And. that's why he's saying things like CP. $25 max, which has become a meme. So, if. you go into this case, you're going to. see a lot of people saying $25 max, 25. max, which even Hulo decides that he's. going to jump in on the meme because he. posted a looks maxing video. And [music]. by looks maxing video, I mean clenching. your chin, posing really uncomfortably.

in a way that makes you look like some. sort of anime action figure, but. incredibly unnatural, sucking in your. cheeks, and then you're just doing like. selfie videos, thirst trap videos. He. posts one of those with five * 5. Like. 5x5, which is 25. Does he just think this is a hoot and a. holler? Like he says he wasn't memeing. just to meme it. He did it because. quote, "Oh, that's just everyone's. saying it.". >> I saw you post like the five times five.

thing. Like, >> oh, that's just everyone's saying it. >> And it's crazy because during all of. this, you have people defending him. You. have fans defending him. You also have. fellow moggers, besties, Chad moggers. with oatmeal for brains, brain as smooth. as his skin. He posts a selfie of the. two of them in the car. Julo looks. unnatural just posing. And he writes in. the caption, "As a former defense. attorney and someone who has faced. allegations before, I know the. importance of waiting to hear both. sides. Stop judging as if you know. someone's life and let the facts come to.

light." They were also organizing that. he was going to do some sort of big. interview with another looks maxer, but. I don't think that if it happened, it's. probably not going to air. Yeah. Jidion. at one point starts going through Hulu's. phone during this video that he filmed. and he points out like I I don't know. what algorithm it was or one of the. social medias, but he's like, "Why'd you. like this picture of this really. younglook girl?" To which Hulu. transparently says, "So I'd get more. posts like that to see more.". >> I'm being honest. I like that one. So,

I'd give more posts like that to see. more. >> And he's like, "Oh, that makes sense. You built this brick by brick. No pun. intended. >> You built this big brick by brick. No. pun intended.". >> So, Jittiana is saying like, "You built. your algorithm brick by brick." He says. that he understands his girlfriend was. traumatized finding because she clicked. some of the links and saw the Cam, but. he says, >> "I feel like she really is trying to. ruin like ruin my life. I feel like if. anything, I need to go serve what I did. wrong and then maybe go to like a.

facility treatment center. And. throughout this entire video, like they. kind of framed it as we're just filming. so you can't later say, "We came in here. and beat you up. It's for safety." And. then later at the end, he's like, "Are. you guys going to post this?". >> Are you posting it? >> No, I'm not posting it. >> Yeah. Yeah. And they tell him, "No." And. then he's like, "Then what are the mics. for? >> What are the mics for?". >> And he's like, "I just don't want, you. know, anything to go online. and I just. don't want to see my face on the. internet right now. They're like, "That's totally understandable." He. contemplates deleting his social media,

saying, "I truly just want to delete my. account after confessing, I don't even. like watching Tik Tok because people are. making fun of me left and right. There's. no point in even having it. >> I don't even like watching Tik Tok. because it people are making fun of me. left and right. Like, there's no point.". Jidion, you know, after going on a. monologue about how Hulu needs to. confess to the internet, when he sees. Hulu checking out of the conversation, he hits him with a, "You ever do. swimming? You have like a swimmer's. body." And then he's like, "Oh." And. Jon's like, "No homo.

>> Did you do swimming? You have like a a swimmer body. No homo. >> Thank you. It's just the shoulder up. It's the up shoulders." And he's like, "It's kind of like you have a Michael. Phelps build." And then somehow Jian. convinces him to do like a selfie style. video. So Jiann is recording his face. and it looks like he's like it's like a. fan meet. Okay. Jillian is the fan. Not. saying he is a fan, but like the. recording style. >> Okay. >> And then he's like, "Mason, no more. child porn, right? >> Mason, no more child porn, right?".

>> And Mason is nodding and looking away. Last time. >> Last time. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. And he's looking away, mewing, running his hand through his hair. And. then Jidon literally pulls out an Uno. reverse card because remember PE so a. lot of people were actually mad at. Jidion when it was happening that he had. discredited the allegations against Hulo. on his Discord. >> Okay. Okay. >> So a lot of people are like I thought. you're for catching predators, not. protecting predators. Right. So he was. like, I did it for the long game. Like. Uno reverse.

>> He handed a car to him. >> He just kind of waved it in his face. I. don't know if Mason took it. Yeah. >> What What's Mason's reaction? He's like. got no reaction this whole time. He's. just like soulless eyes. >> I mean, I guess what what what. >> Yeah. >> What could you do at this point? >> Mason Hull was eventually arrested May. 6th, 2026. He is now facing 15 counts of. possession of CSAM. His occupation and. the arresting documents read Tik Tok. influencer which he was released on. bond. That bond was revoked because he.

kept going online. In fact, he went on a. Discord where they played pretend court. According to court documents, investigators say Hull violated those. conditions. Records also alleged he was. seen on Discord taking part in what's. described as a mock trial and making. jokes about the criminal case. So, it. was like a Discord server with a bunch. of people and one of them was like, I'm. going to be the judge. And then the. other person was like, I'll be the. prosecutor. I'll be the defense. attorney. And Mason. >> on this case. >> Yes. And Mason was in the chat.

>> Like he just snuck in or he knew. >> No, he knew. >> Oh, >> and they're like all there. It's like a. video, like a Zoom meeting on Discord. >> Oh, they're having a fake little trial. Mason was a part of it. >> Yeah. And they're like, "Your honor, my. client." And they're just like doing. dumb [ __ ] and he's there. >> So confused. >> Yeah. So the bond was you cannot be on. social media. You cannot be on the. internet unless it's to speak to your. attorney. So they revoke his bond. Now. he's back in jail. Um he's still posting.

>> in jail. Someone is posting on the account. >> on his social media. >> Mhm. >> Posting what? >> His like the vault. They call it the. vault of just [ __ ] weird thirst. traps. >> They're posting thirst trap right now. >> Yeah, >> that is crazy. >> Yeah. >> Who could possibly be posting right now? >> His manager, his who knows? And uh some. people are commenting and they're.

supporting him in his comments. One. comment says, "Can't we just forgive him. and stop being jealous?" Another says, "I'm not going to lie. I don't think. he's a bad dude." Another comments, "One. minor imperfection you have." Another. writes, "Hulo is PR maxing." One states. that for Hulu to get out of his charges, he has to quote, "Hulo got a IQ max, bro." Another says, "No more CP maxing.". But there are genuine defenders who are. saying things like what he was involved. with is somewhat disturbing and wrong. But at the same time, I do not believe.

he is evil or a genuine danger to. society. And the way people online are. making him out to be. From what has been. said about his behavior and interest. from a young age, it seems like he is a. mentally ill person whose mind became. corrupted over time through exposure and. disturbing content and unhealthy. internet spaces. I also feel like Jion. should have focused more on exposing the. distributors and people behind the. material instead of mainly turning Hulu. into a viral target online. What? One. person comments, "Being mobbed by a. pedophile is so brutal. How do any of us. even recover from this?" Another because.

he's facing 25 years. One comment. writes, "One year for each dollar he. paid for CCM is crazy work." One person. comments, "Looks Maxer in PDF. Prisoners. are going to be opening him up like a. kid on Christmas." To which one person. comments back, I don't like how that was. worded. Another person comments, "His. cellmates are going to appreciate all. the looks maxing he's done." Another. person comments, "People defending this. because he's attractive proves how. cooked social media is. If this was some. random ugly dude, nobody would hesitate. to call him a monster. Protect kids. first, not influencers." Now, I will say.

this about Jitton. I know lots of people. have opinions about just like the whole. niche of content that's created with. Predator Catchers, and like really that. could be said about any niche of content. online. Um, I do think I I I don't. really know much of his lore, but I. think without his video, Hulu might have. a lot more defenders because I these are. the exact group of people who are. inclined to say things like the. ex-girlfriend's lying cuz she's jealous. like that. I think that would have been.

the rhetoric by a lot of people. I don't. know if it would have been all people. probably not. But I think him able to. get the video of him confessing to it, at least for the public to see, even if. it becomes inadmissible in court, I do. think it helped a lot with this case. So, what are your thoughts on all of. this? Let me know in the comments and. stay safe. I will see you in the next. one. Bye.