Epstein Deposition: Everything Bill Clinton & Hillary Clinton Said in 8 Hours Deposition Tape

Barabing, baraboo. Premonitions have really bad PR. The. science crowd is going to call it. coincidence dressed in hindsight. probability at best. That's what a. premonition is. The spiritual crowd is. going to call it a sign. They say some. people just have this knack where they. know things before everybody else. catches up. But every single person will. call it the type of situation that I. will only bring up if I turned out to be. right. It's also just insanely difficult. to prove that you have a premonition.

Like how do you prove to someone that. you had a dream something bad was going. to happen to them before it happened to. them unless maybe you have the metadata. to prove it. August 10th, 2019, a woman. seems to have a premonition just 38. minutes before the incident. That's what. it feels like. This woman is at work in. >> [music]. >> the past few hours she has been by all. objective accounts a pretty bad. employee. She's been looking up. furniture sales online. She's been. taking a nap. But for some reason at.

5:52 in the morning during her night. shift, it's no longer sofas and coffee. tables. This woman types into the search. bar of her government computer latest on. Epstein in jail. Mhm. Her desk is just 15 [music] ft from. Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell. She's supposed to check up on him every. 30 minutes through the night, but she. and her fellow officer do not do that. And instead of getting up and walking. over to see Jeffrey Epstein in jail, another search is made 10 [music].

minutes later. 5:52 a.m. Latest on. Epstein in jail. Mhm. Some people could call it a premonition. >> [music]. >> because just 38 minutes later Jeffrey. Epstein is found dead in his jail cell. But when the DOJ ask her about [music]. it, she says, "I don't remember doing. that." So for reasons she says she can't. recall, she used her work computer twice. [music] allegedly to look up the man she. was supposed to be watching who was 15.

ft away from her. She looked him up. right before the rest of the world even. knew he was dead. Was this like the latest? >> Yes, it was released in the latest. Epstein files on January 30th. That's freaking insane. And there's. more. Chase Bank had flagged the FBI of. suspicious transactions to her Chase. account cash deposits. All of them were. under $10,000. >> It was like a total of $11,000, but. experts weighed in and they said for. Chase to flag those types [music] of. cash transactions.

>> to the FBI? to the FBI means that it. must have been a certain [music]. cadence. And interestingly, one of the. biggest cash deposits, which was like. $5,000, was the same day that Jeffrey. Epstein was moved into the special. housing unit, which is the unit that she. is in. Wow. So all of this, I mean the answer could. be as simple as this is all a. coincidence. Or it maybe it is a glitch. in the computer. Or it could be as dark. as some people just know things before. they happen. >> [music]. >> And maybe it has nothing to do with a.

premonition. There's what the House Oversight. Committee wants to know and why they. want to formally interview Epstein's. jail guards [music] again to answer all. the questions, not just about the. searches, but also how the exact day. that Epstein is returned to that special. housing unit the same guard gets a cash. deposit to her bank account, why Chase. Bank flagged [music] 12 separate cash. deposits to her bank account as. suspicious activity, and why at the time. knowing all of this the Department of. Justice never questioned her about any. of the cash deposits. And the only.

reason that we know any of this is. because it's been released in the. Epstein files. In fact, a lot of new. information has come out of the files. leading people to start rabbit holing. into conspiracy theories. Were children. being sacrificed? Were they being eaten. alive by the elites? Is Epstein still. alive? And how do Epstein, Bill Clinton, and Donald Trump all connect? >> [music].

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And we're also going to link the. change.org petition by various survivors. of Jeffrey Epstein in the show notes so. that you can go sign that. There's a lot. of disclaimers with this case, but first. and foremost, a lot of statements and. full depositions, 4-hour long, 5-hour. long, 6-hour long depositions have been. condensed and rearranged just for. clarity, brevity, for me to give you. context to other questions, but these. are all publicly available information. As well as just the fact that House. Oversight Committee, if they speak to. certain people such as Bill Clinton,

Hillary Clinton, even the security guard. who they want to talk to, it doesn't. imply guilt. They're being called in as. witnesses. They're not being called in. as suspects. Like there there's no. implication of guilt here. Even if. someone's name shows up in the files, there's no implication of guilt. In. fact, they all say that they're not. guilty. So with that being said, let's. get started. They call him the donor whisperer. If you need someone to reach deep into. somebody else's pockets and give you.

some chump change, you call Middleton. He's a proximity distributor. [music]. It's like a weird thing. He doesn't sell. you power. because that's hard. Like you have to be. good. You still have to be charismatic. to some extent to be sold power. Then. you can be a politician, right? He sells. you a chance to be right next to power, to [music] interact with power itself. Mark Middleton worked with the Clinton. administration before resigning. But. there's a lot of drama there. There's a. lot of controversy surrounding his. career. There is speculation that he.

kept using his connections to meet with. foreign billionaires and take their. money with the promise of getting them. in the same room as Clinton. He's the. one that famously said in an [music]. internal memo, "Personally, with a few. exceptions, I don't think there should. ever be an empty seat on board Air Force. One." Every flight that Bill Clinton. takes, he thinks donors should be on. board. That's always been kind of the. way that he does it. Donors of the. president should be cared for and fed. And one of those potential donors is. Jeffrey Epstein. While Bill Clinton is.

in office, Jeffrey Epstein visits the. White House at least 17 times all under. Mark Middleton's tenure. He's the one. that basically okays Epstein being on. the guest list. Bill Clinton will later. say, "I have no clue. Like these are. just donors that come to the White. House. They host parties. That's it. I. don't know anything about this." Mark. Middleton is the one that's letting them. in. But that was then. This is now. Well, this was 2022. So 4 years ago. Mark Middleton, they say. it only got worse. He was receiving.

medical treatment for it, but with. Ghislaine Maxwell being convicted, Mark. Middleton's association with Epstein and. Bill Clinton is being scrutinized more. in the public eye. People are digging up. the fact that he likely accepted. hundreds of thousands of dollars from. foreign interests while insinuating that. they could get White House access. So. instead of explaining all of that, he. had just pled the fifth on everything. All of that's coming back up. Nobody's. really looking past his career with envy. and admiration. He got the White House.

He got near power, but it seems like. power corrupts. That's the sentiment. [music]. May 7th, 2022, Saturday morning in. Arkansas. Mark Middleton gets into his BMW SUV. He. starts driving. He has never been here. before, but he stops his car in this. giant farm. [music] It's 1,200 acres of. working farmland owned by an. anti-poverty nonprofit. This is Mark Middleton's first and last. time visiting the farm. He sits in the. car and he sends his wife a text. message. "Found a perfect place for a.

nap in the sun. [music] Going to rest. for a while. You're a great mom and. wife, babe. Please be happy today and. get some sun. It'll make you feel. better. I love you.". He sends a heart emoji. So he parks his. >> text message. He parks the BMW near the. back of the farm. and he walks up to this really tall. tree. And he somehow like MacGyvers and. drags a bench underneath this tall tree. And he uses a dollar store type. extension cord. to tie himself to this tree. But that's not how he dies.

He puts a shotgun up to his chest and. the trigger is pulled and his feet leave. the bench. It's this very elaborate. setup that Mark Middleton is found. [music] dead. And for the past few years since 2022, there have been whispers that maybe. >> really follow the like what what what. did he do? He tied a rope and a shotgun? >> to his chest. So did he die by a gunshot wound? >> Yes, but also he was found like hanging. And so for the past few years because of.

how strange that whole thing is, there. have been whispers that yet maybe he. didn't do it to himself. The shotgun was found approximately 30. ft away from his body, which a lot of. people found very suspicious. >> 30 ft? >> Yes. How did that happen? Some experts argue. it could be from the recoil of the. discharge, but even the shotgun aspect. is bizarre because that's a very long. barrel weapon. >> Yes. >> It's very uncomfortable to use. And more.

often than not, and I don't know. statistically, this could just be. anecdotal from researching, but. chest is an odd odd choice. Maybe it was. for family of um having an open casket. I I don't know. Chest is an odd choice. A shotgun is an odd choice. A shotgun. and the tree is an odd choice. A farm. that he's never visited, this is his. first time going to the farm, is an odd. choice. There's a lot of odd things. Authorities are reassuring the public. that there's no evidence that anybody. else has been present, no evidence of a.

struggle, no sign of foul play, nothing. Mark Middleton had a history of. depression. That is what we are told. And a lot of people who already dislike. the Clinton family, either because of. their politics or because of their. connection to Epstein, have started a. conspiracy. They have stated, "It's odd, isn't it? I mean, the timing?" In 2022, new information was being released about. Epstein and then Mark Middleton dies. Some internet users already fell into. this conspiracy rabbit hole that the. Clintons could potentially be behind. Epstein's death in jail in 2019. This is.

them cleaning up all their loose ends. Jeffrey Epstein and then who connected. them to Jeffrey Epstein? Probably Mark. Middleton. He's the middle man. That's what a lot. of internet conspiracy theorists have. gone to. Popular Facebook conspiracy. posts think that it's a valid connection. to explore. And adding a bit more fuel. to the conspiracy fire is that a month. after Mark Middleton's death, his family. filed to seal the incident photos. But. they used the law firm Rose Law Firm, which is where Hillary Clinton practiced.

becoming first lady. So she was an. attorney. Mhm. Conspiracy communities. have started seeing this as like a. smoking gun. Radar Online, which is. I don't know how you would classify that. publication, but apparently they spoke. to a close source, a potential associate. of Mark Middleton, stating that, quote, "Everyone that I know here knows it's. physically impossible for Mark to have. self-exited.". Then Daily Mail goes to post article, "Cops Real Self-Exit Death of Clinton. Aid Link to Jeffrey Epstein Despite No. Sign of a Weapon." I will say that this.

goes viral and more people jump into the. conspiracy theory, but there was a. weapon found. It was just found 30 ft. away. Daily Mail does quietly publish a. correction to that, that the shotgun was. indeed found 30 ft away from the body, but it's way too late. The Clinton body. count hashtag starts trending with. social media users tagging all of the. suspicious deaths around the Clinton. family, many of them being self-exits. To which someone comments on Reddit, "So. should working with the Clintons now be. a registered cause of death for MEs?".

Even Trump reportedly retweets. #clintonbodycount. back in 2019. And now in 2026, Mark Middleton's death. is again a topic of conversation because. Bill Clinton is asked about it during. his deposition regarding the Epstein. files. And MAGA has gone to repost those. clips with #clintonbodycount. But Middleton isn't just connected to. the Clintons. There's one flight log that shows. Middleton flying on Epstein's private. jet [music]. and also aboard that flight is Donald.

Trump, his then wife Marla Maples, and. their infant daughter Tiffany. That is what is being reported. So how closely are they all connected? Hillary Clinton has made a comeback in a. sense. I feel like she has been largely. out of the general public's eye after. her presidential run. Hillary Clinton is deposed to talk about. Epstein. A man that she honestly barely. associated with, I will say that. Before. the deposition, Hillary Clinton is asked.

whether or not she thinks people like, you know, even Andrew. Mountbatten-Windsor should go before a. congressional committee. And she states, "I think everybody should testify.". Well, including the former prince. >> I think everybody should testify who is. asked to testify. >> And this whole thing of getting the. Clintons in front of the House Oversight. Committee has been going on, has been in. the talks since like October of last. year. Mhm. This is not a new thing. Everybody's. been fighting. People want different. things. The Republicans wanted it to be. a closed-door conversation. And the.

Democrats and the Clintons were like, "Why the would we do that? So that. you can just leak and manipulate. different things to spin your own. narrative. We want it to be completely. public." Mhm. There's been a lot of back. and forth to a lot of House Oversight. Committee members that are Republicans. even threatening to throw the Clintons. in for contempt of Congress if they. don't show up to be deposed. It's been. back and forth, back and forth. And she. states to the BBC before her deposition, "I just want it to be fair. I want.

everybody treated the same way. We have. nothing to hide. We have called for the. full release of these files repeatedly. We think sunlight is the best. disinfectant." And she thinks that this. is a a huge ploy from the White House, stating that this is, you know, quote, >> "This is so obvious and they keep trying. to divert. Look at this shiny object. We're going to have the Clintons, even. Hillary Clinton, who never met the guy. We're going to have her there.". She goes in to be deposed in March of.

this year. And an hour into the. deposition, all hell breaks loose. A. Republican representative, Lauren. Boebert, she takes a picture of Hillary. Clinton in the deposition room and then. leaks it to social media. So yes, it's. going to be public, but it's not live. Mhm. While it's like breaking news, guys, look. Mhm. And Hillary Clinton, I. don't know. I don't know why they thought they were. doing what they were doing, but she has. a strong emotional reaction. And that's. probably the clips that you've seen on. social media where she says, "I'm. finished with this. If you're all going.

to do that, I'm finished. You can hold. me in contempt until the cows come home. This is just typical behavior." And she. storms out. >> Mhm. There are photos that are being. released of the secretary as she is. testifying. Can you please explain how. that can be? >> with this. If you guys are doing that, I. am done. You can hold me in contempt. from now until the cows come home. This. is just typical behavior. We will go off. the record. Oh, for heaven's sake. I would like to. understand how that's permissible. It doesn't matter. We all are abiding by. the same rules. I I will take that down.

Yeah, well. I would like to take a break. at this moment. I'm done for now. Go off the record. And then she comes back in. But I will. say the girlies, I mean, they seem to. love Hillary Clinton's deposition for. the sole fact of the people that are. questioning her are House Committee. representatives. They're not attorneys. Hillary Clinton is an attorney. Mhm. And. the way that she's able to shut down. questions, the way that she's able to. just I mean, I don't even know what her. attorneys were doing in there because. she was doing everything. She is sharp.

as a tack, whether you like her, you. don't like her, you have your opinions. on her. She was fully there. That's I am. so tired of answering that question. If. you have one scintilla of evidence to. the contrary, put it forward. I have. never been on his island. And people. have taken it one of both ways. Some. people think Hillary Clinton is the. definition of stand by your man. And. they don't say this in a positive way, okay? And these are mainly coming from. Democrats because Republicans have a lot. more harsh things to say, but that.

typically lies in the politics of it. all. You know, right? But with the Democrats, cuz Hillary Clinton is a Democrat, they'll say, "Wow, she's the definition. of stand by her man." because famously. her husband cheated on her with an. intern in the White House, Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky. Or other people think. she hates her husband. In the whole. deposition, she's like, "Why are you. asking me? Go ask Bill." "Why ask me? Ask Bill. Ask my husband, Bill. He'll. probably know. I don't know anything.". He'll have to answer that. You'll have a.

chance to talk to him tomorrow. You've. subpoenaed him. He's going to be here. tomorrow. You're going to have a chance. to question him tomorrow. Well, you. certainly can ask him. Okay. But I will say overall, there is nothing. illuminating from her deposition. Truly, I don't think that Hillary Clinton has. any sort of connection with Epstein. If. anything, I think that Lauren Boebert is. the one that gets the most hate in this. whole deposition. She just was asking a. lot of weird stuff. She She kind of. comes out of this deposition as. the one that did not perform the best.

Hillary Clinton overall, from what I can. see, a lot of people like her. deposition. However, this next part is. pretty monumental. This is going to be. the first time a former US president has. testified to a congressional panel since. Gerald Ford in 1983. He says, and this is Bill Clinton. He's sitting. there and like we haven't seen Bill. Clinton in a really long time, either. He's so old. Mhm. I I think that he. might be dealing with some sort of. health issue. He reminds cuz my. grandfather had Parkinson's. Every time. he grabs his water, he's incredibly.

shaky. A lot of people have associated. that with him being guilty, that's his. tell. Some people have said that him. drinking water is the tell. Other people. have taken it a step further to say like. he's so nervous. People have made short. clips and memes of it. Um I definitely. think that he has some sort of health. condition where he's shaking quite a. bit. First of all, good morning and a. welcome to all of you to. our hometown. I appreciate you coming. here. I'm here today. basically for two reasons. First of all, I love my country and the Constitution,

and I believe America was built on the. ideal. that no one is above the law, especially. presidents, and that we should all live. by the same set of rules shaped by the. Constitution. Democracy requires every. person to play their part, and I hope. that by being here today, we can bring ourselves a little further. away from the brink and back. to being a country where we can disagree. civilly and search for the truth and. justice. The second reason I'm here is that the. girls and women whose lives Jeffrey.

Epstein destroyed deserve not just. justice, but healing. They've been. waiting too long for both. He states that he was only briefly. acquainted with Jeffrey Epstein and it. ended years before his crimes even came. to light. So this is pre-2008. He never witnessed anything in their. limited interactions, but he wants to. help the DOJ. He wants to help the House. Committee to make sure that they can all. prevent something like this from. happening again. He also mentions that. his wife, Hillary Clinton, should not. have to answer to anybody. Basically, in. more eloquent words, he states that.

she's got nothing to do with Epstein. However, quote, On the other hand, I do think you should. be talking to me. I think you should. have called me. I did take those plane trips with him, and you have a right to ask those. questions. So, um I'm glad to be here, and. I understand what the oath is. I have to be honest with you. Being 80. years old, if I live to my next. birthday, I I don't remember everything. that happened 24 years ago, but I do. remember some things, and I will tell. you what I remember as best I can. But I.

will say, just before we go into the. deposition, there is an uncomfortable. moment later on where Bill Clinton is. asked if he's ever lied under oath or. during a deposition, to which he. responds, "No." Uh have you ever lied. under in a deposition? No. Have you ever lied while under oath? No. But we all know that he technically has. lied under oath before regarding the. Monica Lewinsky situation, where he. states that he did not have sexual. relations with Monica Lewinsky, and we.

all know that that was not true. I did not have sexual relations with. that woman, Ms. Lewinsky. Some people think that. that's damning evidence as is, and that. we should look at the deposition with a. different perspective just knowing that. How did he meet Epstein? Former. President Bill Clinton states that he. met him through Larry Summers, who was. the head of Harvard at the time. Okay, we hear about Larry Summers way too damn. often, okay? He was the Secretary of. Treasury during Clinton's.

administration, Larry Summers. So, everybody's connected through Larry. Summers. Larry Summers, and this. is me paraphrasing for what I believe to. be brevity, but you can watch like the. whole 4 and 1/2 hour long deposition if. you'd like. Larry Summers is like, "Hey. Bill, you should meet this donor. He. just gave Harvard $10 million for brain. research. He's information-hungry. You would love talking to him. Like, he. loves to talk about economics, politics. Oh, and here's the cherry on top. You. just got out of the White House. You're. trying to start your own foundation, the.

Clinton Foundation. You're trying to. cure AIDS. You're trying to do all this. stuff. He's got a massive jet, and he. can fly you around, you and your entire. Secret Service detail, because you can't. fly by yourself these days, cuz you. know, you just got out of the White. House. And he can help you set up your. nonprofit to provide life-saving AIDS. medications to as many people around the. world as possible. And because you just. got out of the White House, it hadn't. been funded yet. So, that's great. He. kind of insinuates that Epstein was just. a means to an end for the foundation, and that. a lot of people who cared more about the.

work that Clinton was doing, they would. get involved later, so that's why Bill. Clinton stopped hanging out with. Epstein. I thought this Mr. Epstein. was an interesting man, but he I didn't. think he was really interested in what I. was doing. At least he asked all these. questions. He He did ask about economics. and politics as he said he would, and. he never asked me anything untoward. It's just that I didn't think. I thought I had done what I promised to. do, and he had done what he promised to do,

and I thought I've always, over the. years, with these donors, try not to overstay. my welcome. I thought that we'd done. enough, and then it's time to start. working with other people. Which, side note about Larry Summers. before we move on, he has resigned from. his academic and faculty appointments at. Harvard. So, remember he was then. president, but then he was working as a. professor, and then the Epstein files. came out, and then he gave this whole. like weird Epstein lecture to his. students. Some of you will have seen my. statement of.

regret, especially my shame, uh with. respect to. what I did in communication with Mr. Epstein. He also stepped down and parted. ways with the New York Times, Bloomberg, and OpenAI. He was on the board, I. believe. Or some advisory or something like that, but. Bill Clinton interestingly describes. Epstein as a vacuum cleaner. How would. you describe the substance of your. conversations with Jeffrey Epstein. during the many hours that you spent.

together on the aircraft? Well, at first, he really seemed to be like a vacuum. cleaner. Like, he really wanted. information. There was nothing uh. overtly manipulative about him. He just. he wanted to know, you know, what did I think of. derivatives trading. Did I think that uh. the stock market was properly regulated. or that it need more?

And it was great for the first. you know, two, three, four, five. conversations. But I could tell that. it was like. I mean, you guys are in politics. Don't. you ever feel like sometimes somebody's. talking to you and then they're just. checking their watch and they got to go. do something else and meet somebody. else? That's the way I felt. So, if he's saying it felt like Jeffrey. Epstein just wanted to say he knew Bill. Clinton. Mhm. Which is kind of alarming.

The House Committee wants to know if. perhaps Epstein was trying to get. specific information out of Bill. Clinton. I mean, that would be a huge. concern for national security if, let's. say, a trafficker has blackmail against. very well-connected, politically one of. the most powerful people on the planet. Mhm. What could happen then? Why did he. call him a vacuum cleaner, though? >> Just wants knowledge. Just like. vacuuming information. Yeah, but at the. same time, he doesn't really care.

>> Yeah. He just wants information to be. used on other. I imagine he's like the type where you. sit down and it's rapid-fire 25. questions. And if you don't answer in. the way that they think is entertaining. or interesting, they just move on to the. next person. It's kind of the the. feeling that I get from his response. But they ask, you know, was he ever. trying to monetize the relationship to. your knowledge? To the best of my. knowledge, he never did. Did Jeffrey. Epstein ever inform or represent to you. that he was working with any. intelligence service of any nation,

including the United States? No. But they show him a picture of a man. named Marius Robert, whom Clinton says. he doesn't know who that person is. He's. like, "I've never seen this person in my. life. I don't know who Marius Robert. is." But they're like, "What about the. passport photo?" He's shown a picture of. a passport. They're like, [music] "The. passport name is Marius Robert. You. don't know Marius Robert, but who does. the picture look like?" It looks like. Jeffrey Epstein. Explain, "The reason I. ask you about this specifically is. because I do believe that Jeffrey. Epstein was an intelligence operative.

So, this was a passport that was. actually entered and released by the. DOJ. It was found in his safe, if you. will. So, it's [music] an alias. The. reason I ask you that is, given your. nature and position, I'm wondering if. you were [music] essentially targeted by. a honey pot operation and/or by. intelligence to gather information.". Bill Clinton smiles. Is there a. question? So, with that, one of the main people. under fire with the new Epstein files. release is Howard Lutnick. He's the. former New York City neighbor to Jeffrey. Epstein. He.

He's a neighbor? Yeah, like next-door. neighbor. And according to Politico, Howard Lutnick has stated in a podcast. that he vowed back in 2005 that he would. never be in the same room as Epstein. ever again. Which is like a very odd thing. Why. 2005, right? But then according to the. file dump, Howard Lutnick also. reportedly invited Epstein to a 2015. fundraiser for Hillary Clinton. So, it's. unclear if Epstein went, but what the. hell? Okay. Who is he? He's the.

Secretary of Commerce, appointed by. Trump. They're trying to get him to. resign as we speak. And he was just a. neighbor back in the days. He was a. neighbor, and he was I mean, at one. point close to the Clintons, who are. Democrats, but now he's the Secretary of. Commerce with. Trump. Yeah. But he was right next door to. Jeffrey Epstein's $250 million New York. City just mansion. So, he goes on this. podcast, Howard Lutnick does, and he. said that he and his wife were invited.

over to Jeffrey Epstein's house because. they're neighbors. So, it's like, "Hey, billionaire and billionaire, let's all. meet." I don't know if they're. billionaires, but So, they see this. massage table just in the middle of a. room in Epstein's house, and it's just. candles everywhere, and Epstein creepily. insinuates that he gets a massage every. day, the right kind of massage. And the. right kind of massage. So, Lutnick and. his wife, Allison Lutnick, he says they. all but flee the Manhattan townhouse, cuz they're like, "Disgusting, disgusting." And according to Howard. Lutnick, and in the six or eight steps.

it takes to get from his house to my. house, my wife and I decided that I will never. be in the room. with that disgusting person. ever again. Safe to assume that he was. never in the same room with Epstein. since 2005, right? But the emails show. that he was reportedly at Epstein's. Island years after 2005. He emailed. Epstein stating that him and his wife. and children, along with another family, were visiting the Caribbean and asked if. Epstein would be around and whether or. not they could visit him for a meal. And.

then a day later, Epstein emails. Lutnick, "Nice seeing you." So, we don't. know if he was on Epstein's Island, but. safe to assume that they did see each. other in the Caribbean. Yeah. Even in 2017, according to the New York. Times, Epstein contributed to a charity. dinner that was in honor of Lutnick. But. in a Senate subcommittee hearing, Lutnick says, "I did not have a. relationship with him. I barely had. anything to do with that person, okay?". I did not have. a. anything you could call a relationship,

anything you could call an acquaintance. I literally met him three times over 14. years with widespread in between. I've. never heard anybody say, "Oh yeah, I. know Epstein." Yeah. Nobody. Everyone. says exactly same thing. Don't know the guy, barely know the guy. I don't talk to him. I think that I was. just a friend of his, even though I. spent. 50 hours on a private plane with him. >> Yeah. His private plane with him. It's like nobody knows him, but he knows. everybody. Like, everybody's in his.

email. >> Exactly. As for that lunch with his wife. and kids and Epstein, he says, My wife. was with me, as were my four children. >> [music]. >> and nannies. I had another couple with. They were there as well, with their. children, and we had lunch on the. island. That is true for an hour, and we. left with all of my children, with my. nannies, and my wife all together. >> Also, Howard Lutnick just looks. AI-generated. I don't know how else to. describe it. It was bothering me ever.

since, and I have nobody to talk to it. about it. He looks like AI-generated. pictures. Like, you know, when you see. those AI-generated. people who like go fishing and then they. catch a shark and they're like and it. just looks so AI That's what Howard. Lutnick looks like to me. >> During his deposition, Bill Clinton, he's asked why President Trump ignored. other prominent figures in his circle. such as Howard Lutnick, who have had. close ties with Epstein. This is an. opinion question because the House. Committee is asking Bill Clinton, "Why. do you think President Trump is ignoring.

other people in his circle, prominent. figures such as Howard Lutnick, who have. had close ties with Epstein?" How is he. supposed to know what Trump is thinking? This is not a question that Bill Clinton. can answer. This is an opinion question. They're not here to give opinions. And. other times, when they're asked opinion. questions that they don't want to. answer, their attorneys step in. Bill. Clinton steps in. Hillary Clinton is. like, "I'm not here for speculation. I'm. here for facts." But Bill Clinton, his. attorneys don't stop him, and Bill. Clinton says, Lutnick is runs a big. company and has.

>> [music]. >> made a lot of money and has. supported him strongly. I don't think he believes that he's done. anything bad enough to I think he thinks. he took his family to the island and he. couldn't have done anything wrong. That's what I think he thinks. But I'm. speculating. I'm doing what I have no. business doing. cuz I really don't know. Then why'd you. say that? Yeah, and this is where a lot of people. have a lot of problems with this. I. think that this could easily, if you. want to have zero nuance and if you want.

to just like die by your party, which. who wants to die by their party these. days, you could make it a Republican and. Democrat issue. But I will say that no. victim of sex trafficking ever cared. what party their abuser belonged to. So, I don't think that this is a. Democrat-Republican issue. I think this. is an issue of sex trafficking and. people in power. So, this is not like me. saying, "Oh, because of my political. party, I'm going to side with this guy. over that guy." But one thing that a lot. of Democrats who would typically take. Bill Clinton's side, they're saying, "Hold on. It's very uncomfortable that.

he's almost giving Trump outs." It's the. same thing that Ghislaine Maxwell did. last year in her DOJ interview Mhm. with. Todd Blanche who. I've never saw the president in any type. of massage setting. I never witnessed. the president in any inappropriate. setting in any way. The president was. never inappropriate with anybody. in the times that I was with him, he was. a gentleman in all respects. Why give. your opinion on what Trump is thinking.

when you're not supposed to answer to. opinions, and you gave your opinion in a. way that almost clears Trump? Like, I'm. sure Trump thinks he didn't have a. relationship with Epstein. That's. basically what he's saying. There is. currently bipartisan effort to get. Howard Lutnick out to get him to resign. I just think the craziest thing though. is that Howard Lutnick is a billionaire. Why even go on a podcast just to eat. your own words later? Why go on a. podcast and say, "This happened in 2005. and my wife and I were like, we're never.

going to see this guy." Right, right, right. >> It's just they Wait, the 2005 comment, when was that made? Like last year. Oh, in the podcast? >> Yeah. And then the email came out. >> Yeah. And then they're like, "Why'd you even. go on the podcast? You could have just. shut up about Epstein. You could have just not said anything.". Well, he didn't think it was going to. come out. >> Yeah. Okay. So, then the deposition. heads into the flights, and it's been. confirmed, and it's very, you know, apparent that Bill Clinton has been on. Epstein's private plane numerous times,

the Lolita Express, if you will. He admits that during one flight, Naomi. Campbell happened to be there. This is a. name that consistently comes up, but. there's no like damning evidence against. Naomi Campbell. She just keeps coming up. all the time. Bill Clinton states that. it was all for philanthropic charitable. work, you know, depending on your. political views, depending on your view. of powerful men abusing their positions, depending on your instinct, [music] a. lot of netizens have different takes. about these types of responses. But. nevertheless, he's like, "It was all for.

philanthropy. I was just trying to save. people." In the deposition, he's asked, because of the flight logs, they show. that there are young girls on these. planes. So, when I hear young girls, I'm. assuming that they're all of age. because they would have said under age, right? So, the flight logs at least. depict, >> [music]. >> and the pictures show that they're. wearing tank tops and jeans. Who did he think they were? Is Epstein. like, "This is my assistant who is. wearing a tank top and jeans to do. philanthropic work? Why am I bringing.

this specific assistant to this trip? Like. Who did you think they were, Bill. Clinton? I thought they were flight. attendants. >> [music]. >> Wow. >> Do flight attendants typically wear tank. tops and jeans? They don't all wear uniforms on private. [music] planes. Okay. I don't know if that's true, right? But everyone's just kind of like, "What?". Even if they don't wear uniforms, they. probably don't wear tank tops and jeans. >> Yeah, this is such a dumb Then there's. the viral photo of 22-year-old Shantae.

giving Clinton a neck massage at an. airport. She was 22 at the time, and I do have to. note that Shantae Davis has come out and. said that Bill Clinton has been nothing. but a gentleman in her experiences with. him. She's been very outspoken abuse. that Epstein had done to her along with. Maxwell, but she never said that Bill. Clinton was part of any of it. Okay. My next question for you is, have. you ever. had contact with an individual by the. name of Shantae Davis?

I believe Shantae was That's a. distinctive name, and so I I think that. was the name of one of his flight. attendants. So, I mean, at this point, it's safe to assume that he knows who. she is because, I mean, the picture went. out. I'm sure he's prepped with his. attorneys. He knows. He's further asked, >> "She's been described on being on a 2002. Africa trip and providing massages. Was. she or any other young female on that. trip underage at that time?" Nothing. that I'm aware of. Okay. "Did you ever. receive a massage or have physical.

contact from her or anyone else on that. trip?" You've seen the pictures. There. was one time when I was sitting up and I. got a back rub, a neck rub. Okay. And I. think Shantae did it, but I'm not sure. Okay. But I didn't think it was anything. unusual that I did. I can't tell you how. many airports I've been on. where rich people ask me to go and they. had someone offering massages. You know, all these boats that you go on. and all that, they all do that. And usually I don't do that. I'm not.

into. this. And to what? We don't know. What is he saying? >> Yeah, we don't know. And the attorney is. like, "Stop. Stop. Just stop." He later. states that on this specific trip, his. neck had, quote, "had spasmed, and I was. in pain, so they offered to help, and I. let them help." "Do you think a young. girl massaging a president is unusual?". So, you asking his opinion? There's a. little riff, and then his other counsel. steps in. "Objection. Calls for.

speculation." I figured. "Did you ever. think that all these women around. Jeffrey Epstein or Ghislaine Maxwell was. odd, unusual, weird, or creepy?". There weren't all that many around when. I was there. "How many would you say is. all not all that many?". I think on this big plane. that was working long hours, having two to four people on there, I. thought was As far as I knew, they were. all helping. "Flight attendants in tank. tops and jeans?" And this questioning is.

done by a Republican Representative. Nancy Mace. And. we have this. People who have not watched the full. deposition, there's like a clip going. viral where he says, "Well, you got like. a great tone to it." And Bill Clinton. puts his hands in the air, and. everyone's like, "Oh my god, Bill. Clinton is still flirting with young. women. Look at him flirting with. Representative Mace." And it's been. clipped, and everyone's like, "You can't. tell me that he wasn't, you know, putting it on thick on her." And I was. expecting flirting. They're going at it.

She was never at my house in Chappaqua. for any personal reasons. I didn't I didn't I didn't say anything. for anything personal. >> didn't, but you have a great tone in. your voice, and you're very annoying. But that's just Thank you. I'll take. that as a compliment. I Thank you, and I. did not go to Yale Law School or any law. school for that matter. Which makes. sense. Nancy Mace was super. confrontational with Hillary Clinton, and she's just been like a very. controversial conservative figure just. all in all in her entire political.

career. A lot of people have a lot of. thoughts about her, good or really bad, or however you want us to take it, right? But um. Bill Clinton is I don't think he's. flirting with her. Okay, so that TikTok. was out of context. >> Yeah, she is like going for his neck in. a way that is more extreme than everyone. else. I think everyone is trying to at. least be respectful. This is, at the end. of the day, a former president, and this. is a deposition that they called him to. The Republicans are obviously going to. have more. opinion-based questions, or just.

questions that they're getting in there. to get on the record to say to his face. And some Democrats, honestly, a lot of. Democrats were upset with some of them. because they were just going way too. easy, too. Which a lot of Democrats are like, "We. don't care that he's a Democrat." Okay? Just like, "We don't care what any of. these predators" Not saying Bill Clinton. is a predator, just any predator, "We. don't care about their political. affiliation. You need to go harder.". There was some Democrats that were like, "We know. We know. Thank you for being. here. We know Trump is just using you.". >> [snorts]. >> "I voted for you, you know." And it's.

like, no one cares. Even if you voted. for whoever, if they turn out to not be. good, what? So, I digress. Nancy Mace is going for it. Like, she's very aggressive, very. intense, and I don't think that he was. flirting with her because she keeps. insinuating that he knew what was going. on. And so, that's why she's saying, "I. never said I never said that you knew.". or something along those lines. And. that's why he says, "No, but your your. tone had a great tone to it." Mhm. >> Like, very like, "Well, you knew what.

you're saying, you know.". >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> But, a lot of people are saying like, "I. like your voice." But, that's not what. was happening, yeah. >> That is crazy. >> not what was happening at all. It's. actually one of the most aggressive. parts of the deposition. So, unless. maybe he just like someone who's like. going for his neck and his wife's neck. Maybe that he's into that. So, I. what can I say? That's an opinion. I'm. not in Bill Clinton's mind. There was another report that came out. in my little research about Nancy Mace. There was a Reddit poll going around. where people, citizens, Redditors,

netizens would be voting on who the. hottest representative is. Okay. >> there was an exposé or alleged staffers. of Nancy Mace came out and said, "She. made us make burner accounts [laughter]. and vote for her." I'm sorry, I could. not live with this information by. myself. I don't know if this is true. This is the allegation made, but And. then they also alleged that she would. make them clean her Airbnbs because she. didn't want to clean the housekeepers to. do it. So, she would have staffers do. it, and one of them said something along.

the lines of {quote}. "She's She's messed up. The motherboard. is fried.". >> [laughter]. >> up here. Nothing going on up here. So, But, in a separate line of questioning, Bill Clinton does state that he wishes. Shantae could have told him what was. going on with Epstein because he really. liked her, thought she was a good. person. I wish Shantae had told me. I liked her. Mhm. So, yeah. Then there's Maria Farmer. Maria Farmer. is really important to this. It's like.

not said, but it's said, which is the. fact that Maria Farmer has previously. reached out to an FBI agent and stated. that Epstein had stolen unclosed photos. of her sisters who were 12 and 16 years. old. This is back in like the 1990s. There is an active FBI report that was. then of C. Seam against [music] Jeffrey. Epstein. She also reported to the FBI. agents that Epstein told her to go take. photos of young girls at swimming pools, and if she did not comply, he would burn. her family house down. Woah. So, Maria.

Farmer, she goes to the feds with this. And Bill Clinton is in office after. So, there's this kind of unsaid, but said. like, "How are you, the most important. person in the nation, not informed that. there's at least some sort of. investigation?" Mhm. So, this is in the. '90s. He was president from '93 to 2001. So, there's this like not said, but said. of, "Are we really to believe? Yes, you.

hung out with him before 2008, before we. could Google his name. So, you don't. have the same problem that a lot of. these other people in the emails have, which is like, "How did you not Google. this guy?" But, there was a report to the FBI, and you're not informed of it. He's. allowed into the White House 17. different times. >> Mhm. You know, you still connect with. him afterwards. Like, really nothing? We don't know anything? And C. Seam is that's that's not even. like a ooh, white-collar crime, cuz.

that's like everybody associates with. people with white-collar crimes these. days. But, side note, Maria Farmer has. also claimed that she saw Trump visiting. Epstein's offices in 1995, and that. Trump allegedly came into the office, hovered over her, stared at her bare. legs, and that Epstein walked in and. said, "No, no, she's not here for you.". And as the two men walked out, she. alleges that she could hear Trump. commenting that he thought she was 16. years old. >> [music]. >> And I immediately was like, "That's. Donald Trump." What's he doing here? And. just stood over me in a very imposing.

way, and looked at me like like he was. in on some secret or something. It was. really weird, like smirking kind of. But, he made a joke to Epstein, "Oh, I. thought she was 16.". So, the connotation being there that he. was okay with that. The White House has, to nobody's surprise, denied such an. account of events. And obviously, none. of us there were there with Maria. We do. not know the truth, though. You know, I'm sure everyone has personal opinions. on what they think the truth is, and we.

are entitled to our personal opinions. But, she claimed that while she's being. abused by Epstein, she saw Bill Clinton. come to his house on three to four. different occasions. That's it. That's all she said. Yeah. So, there's. there's just. there's a lot going on. That would mean. that Clinton had gone to Epstein's. house, if Maria Farmer's account is. valid, while he was the sitting. president. Mhm. And that changes. everything again. That would be really bad. Bill Clinton.

is adamant he only met Epstein when he. was coming out of office, starting his. foundation, and Larry Summers introduced. them. He's asked, you know, "Maria. Farmer was employed by Jeffrey Epstein. and abused by him for a number of years, and she first reported her abuse to the. NYPD and FBI in 1996. She states that. she has personal knowledge that you. visited Jeffrey Epstein's house three to. four times while you were the sitting. president between 1995 and 1996. >> [music]. >> So, let me ask you, Mr. President, did. you visit Jeffrey Epstein's house while. you were president?" I do not remember. doing that. I do not believe I did. How.

do you explain this discrepancy? Objection. Calls for me to speculate. I. can't I can't speculate. I. But, all I can tell you is I don't. remember being there. Okay. During your. presidency, were you ever made aware of. the information that Maria Farmer. provided to the FBI in 1996? No. And. No. During the deposition, Virginia Giuffre. is brought up. She has stated numerous.

times in sworn statements that she. recalls Bill Clinton being on the. island. And her diary reads, {quote}. "Bill Clinton met two times. island with two girls, CTGM and JE.". Woah. [music] So, CT, I don't know. GM. could be Ghislaine Maxwell, and JE could. be Jeffrey Epstein, right? What is your reaction to that? It's not. true. Bill Clinton starts getting a little. combative, you know. Did she say that in. her book? This is from her personal diary that her.

family shared with us. >> It's what The book came out more. recently. Did she say that in the book? I can't I'm just reading you the entry. from her diary that her family shared. with me. I think she ultimately reached. a different conclusion, although I had. no contact with her. And a lot of people had side eye to. that. Like, why is he so adamant of if. she said that in the book? It's almost. like he made sure there was nothing in. the book about him. Mhm. Mhm. And then he says, "I think she. ultimately reached a different. conclusion, although I had no contact. with her.".

Oh, yeah, that's weird. And Virginia. Giuffre is now deceased. >> Mhm. in a self-exit. So, there are just. like lots of feelings that people had. about this question. Well, I just want. to make sure that it's on the record. That's what the representative is. saying. Now, remember how Virginia. Giuffre alleged that Bill Clinton told. Vanity Fair not to write articles about. his good friend Jeffrey Epstein. He's. asked if that happened. Like, we we. covered this back in the recent Epstein. videos that I did a few months back. So, she was saying that she was scared, you. know, Bill Clinton was going into a. Vanity Fair saying like, "You're not.

going to cover my friend." And he's. asked if that happened, and he responds, "No.". No, no, hell no. Not close, no. But, according to emails, Ghislaine Maxwell. and a Clinton aide talking points on how. to respond to a Vanity Fair reporter who. was writing a profile on Epstein. So, that doesn't mean that. Bill Clinton did or did not, but there. it was a topic of conversation. So, either Bill Clinton really was not. involved, but people on his side were. preparing a statement to give to Vanity. Fair because they always ask for.

comment, or they. they were involved. It's unclear. But, he's saying in the deposition under oath. that he did not. Did you know one of the witnesses who. testified in the Epstein cases that. Epstein said you, Bill Clinton, you. {quote} like them young. Why would. Epstein say that about you? His lawyer. steps in. "Are you asking him a. question? Are you asking his opinion? You want him to try and be in Mr. Epstein's mind and guess at what Mr. Epstein would have thought about?" First. of all, that's not true. What's not true?

That I have any. interest in underage I didn't say. underage. I said I said young. But, it's still not true. Is an intern young? So, here comes Monica Lewinsky. >> Woah. Yes. Okay. And my did anybody younger. than I ever say. >> Jeffrey Epstein instructed a witness to. deny you were ever on his island? He didn't have to since I was never. there. During Ghislaine Maxwell's. previous interview with the DOJ last.

year, Ghislaine Maxwell states that she. had a very central role in the Clinton. Global Initiative. And it doesn't seem. like she's just making this up out of. her butt, okay? It's been revealed that. in the files, Ghislaine was even taking. part in budget discussions, which side. note, so many depositions happening in. the month of February and March. February 9th, 2026, Ghislaine Maxwell is. deposed. Another deposition. House. Oversight and Government Reform. Committee, they depose her. Closed-door. deposition, the video goes live, okay?

The video goes up. You're like, "What? It's a closed-door deposition. What do. you mean?" Okay. So, the main questions. the committee wanted to ask were. Ghislaine Maxwell previously claimed. that there were four named. co-conspirators. Who were the four named. co-conspirators? 25 men who are not. indicted. Who are they? Why were they. never charged? Her documented social. relationship with Trump and Epstein, including whether access to underage. girls was ever facilitated. They wanted. to ask whether discussions occurred. about a pardon or sentence reduction. after Trump publicly stated that he. would look at a pardon. What client. lists exist documenting Epstein's.

associates, and whether Epstein shared. information with or acted on behalf of. foreign government intelligence. services. That was the plan. That's the questions. that they're going in trying to ask. Ghislaine Maxwell, we have a video of. this, is sitting there with big old. goofy glasses on her head, okay, she. looks crazy, and she just responds to. everything, I would like to answer your. question. Then do it. But she doesn't. But on the advice of counsel, I. respectfully decline to answer this. question and any related questions.

My habeas petition is pending in the. Southern District of New York. I therefore invoke my right to silence. >> [music]. >> under the Fifth Amendment to the US. Constitution. She wouldn't even respond. if she was a close friend of Epstein's. Which she previously denied, but you. know. And she's asked, Miss Maxwell, is it your intention to answer every. question put to you by the committee. today with the assertion of your Fifth. Amendment right against. self-incrimination? I invoke my Fifth Amendment right to.

silence. That video of the deposition. has since been released because she. literally said nothing, and the American. people should probably see her evade all. these questions. And all of that. appears, this whole thing is like a bid. for a presidential pardon. Even before. the questions start, Maxwell's attorney. states outright, If this committee and the American. public truly want to hear the unfiltered. truth about what happened, there is a. straightforward path. Miss Maxwell's. prepared to speak fully and honestly if.

granted clemency by President Trump. Only she can provide a complete account, and some may not like what they want. what they hear, but the truth matters. For example, both President Trump and. President Clinton are innocent of any. wrongdoing. Miss Maxwell alone can. explain why, and the public is entitled. to hear that explanation. Thank you, members of the committee for having us. today. Miss Maxwell can now proceed to. answer her her questions with [music]. the Fifth Amendment. Thank you.

Which a lot of people are upset by. A. representative, Jamie Raskin from. Maryland, has since been very public. about this, criticizing the DOJ, stating, You know, I I think that the. Department of Justice has been in a. cover-up mode for many months and has. has been trying to sweep the entire. thing under the rug. There's no way you. run a billion-dollar international child. sex trafficking ring with just two. people committing crimes. Interestingly. though, the video of the deposition has.

elicited a very different kind of. response. Of course, outrage that she's. not answering any of the questions, but. also conspiracies that this is not. Ghislaine Maxwell, that she's been. replaced. >> What? >> Comments are reading, clearly not. Ghislaine Maxwell. Wow, corruption is so. smart. Is that her? That looks like. somebody else, completely different. What's the problem? She looks different? >> Yeah. It could be the wonky glasses, it. could be the video, it looks like a. webcam. Uh It could be that she's not. Ghislaine Maxwell, I don't know.

Okay. But. it does sound like her, but I don't. know. Some are saying she doesn't sound. like her either. The impostor should be. found and prosecuted if this is a phony, this is a trial. Like there's a lot of. thoughts in the comments. But according. to the Clintons, the main reason that. the Clintons continued to associate with. Ghislaine was mainly because Ghislaine. Maxwell was involved with two key people. that were part of the Clintons' lives. Doug Band. This was at the time Bill. Clinton's top aid. As evidenced by. emails that Doug Band had with Ghislaine.

Maxwell, there was something going on. I. don't know what it was, but it was. something. She writes to him, Boo Boo, are you around? I am very ill and. require immediate medical attention. I. am suffering from boo boo titus. Yeah. No, I hate her. A very serious. condition. Without a boo boo fix, the. symptoms become pronounced. Feeling is. mutual, Doug Band responds. My boo boo. titus is also reaching epic proportions.

Lots going on, but will be in boo boo. ville the second you arrive. Then. another one sent by Ghislaine Maxwell. Cries into the night that sound like. Shakespeare sonnets that sound like. this. Oh Douglas, oh Douglas, wherefore. art thou Douglas? Doug Band states that he never had any. physical relationship with Ghislaine. Maxwell, and that she is a monster. That's not what you said when you went. to boo boo ville though. But he says. there was absolutely no physical. relationship that occurred between us.

ever. So, I don't know, maybe it's just. flirting over emails, but he is being. called to testify before the House. Oversight so we shall see. They were. close enough that Ghislaine, according. to the emails, tried to arrange and did. purchase Doug Band a $35,000 AP watch. for his birthday with Epstein. And she. was asking Epstein like, who should I. say it's from, me or you? And he said, from us. Wow. Yeah, and I will say, side. note, Doug Band had quite the bitter. contentious parting with the Clintons. That's like kind of for another time,

but not really. So, Doug Band was saying. that Bill Clinton was driven nuts by. Obama, and that Hillary was bitter that. she was not the president, and that the. Clintons consciously or unconsciously. may not have wanted Hillary to win, which are very wild things to say. The. Clintons and even Obama had refuted much. of that sentiment. Hillary allegedly. felt like Doug Band was enabling Bill. Clinton's behavior, to which Doug Band. is like, the idea that anyone can. control a person, especially a former. president of the United States, is. completely ridiculous. But later, another friend of the Clintons said, the. problem was Doug Band's ego. Quote, you.

had to kiss Doug Band's ass to get. anywhere. I mean, it was like Doug Band. began to think that he was Bill Clinton. Also, apparently, Doug Band and Chelsea. Clinton, the Clintons' daughter, had a. long-standing rivalry with sources. saying that Chelsea was upset because. Bill Clinton saw Doug Band as his son. And later, in a scathing internal email, Doug Band wrote that Chelsea is acting. like a quote, spoiled brat kid who has. nothing else to do but create issues to. justify what she's doing because she, as. she has said, hasn't found her way and. has a lack of focus in her life.

Bill Clinton says, after Doug Band, Ghislaine Maxwell was in a relationship. with Ted Waitt, who is a billionaire. that co-founded Gateway. And the Clintons are very close with Ted. Waitt, he's a huge huge donor of the. Clinton Foundation. I mean, that's the. only reason that Ghislaine Maxwell came. to their daughter's wedding, Chelsea. Clinton's wedding, was because Ted Waitt. was invited and Ghislaine Maxwell was. his plus one. That makes sense a little. bit, but still, I don't know, if you are. a former president, I'm sure you vet.

that list, that guest list, up and down. for anything. You have a DUI, that's heinous by the. way, you're out. You've you have petty. theft, you're out. Like anything? No. This is, you know, way later, but. Ghislaine in her interview last year. said that she probably saw Bill Clinton. probably around 2016. They had a dinner. together. He confirms that it's been. about a decade. And just like what. Ghislaine Maxwell said about Prince. Andrew, former Prince Andrew,

she is insistent that Bill Clinton was. her friend and not Epstein's friend. But. Bill Clinton is like, none of us were. friends. >> [laughter]. >> I don't know what anybody's talking. about. We were friendly, but I didn't know him. well enough to be saying we were. friends. But here's also another thing. that's interesting. I just noticed, and. this could be me reading way too much. into it, but Bill Clinton, when he talks. about Epstein, there's like there's a. lot of condemning happening. But when he.

talks about Maxwell, it's almost passive. condemning. It's just something that I. noticed, and it's a feeling that I have. He'll say things like, We did not know. when. Epstein was arrested that she was still. involved with him. I think that clears a. lot of this up. We didn't know. I'm sorry for what. she did and what she allowed her life to. become, and now she's living with it. It's not a strong condemning of like. >> Yeah. her. Can't believe she did that.

She deserves to rot in hell. Exactly. Disgusting. >> Yeah, which is weird. Then they bring up. the birthday note, okay? They bring up. Bill Clinton's birthday note for Epstein. for Epstein's 50th birthday. Why are we. wishing traffickers a happy birthday? Okay, traffickers should not even get. another birthday. But Bill Clinton is. asked, Why did you write this letter? Why did I? Because I was requested to. contribute an ice letter for his. birthday book. It's reassuring, isn't it?

Good laughs and so long across all the. years. of learning and knowing, adventures and. errors. And still to have your childlike. curiosity, the drive to make a. difference, and the solace of friends. He leans back, crosses his arms, and. smiles. Not a bad look. The birthday note shows, you know, states, knowing adventures and errors. He's asked for the record, you know, you. weren't referring to errors in judgment. that Mr. Epstein had related to his. inappropriate activities involving young.

>> Absolutely not. I knew nothing about. that. So, he's just saying that it's. just a shitty coincidence of word usage. There's a few more notes that Bill. Clinton allegedly wrote to Epstein that. he's asked about, which I will say, like, this is why it's so frustrating. Certain questions have a lot of high. value. Like this birthday note probably. has a little bit more high value of. like, those are words that the American. citizens were like, now, why would you. write that? Why would you write that? So, that's a good question. But then. they start bringing up some dumb notes, which I'm like, now you're making this. whole thing seem dumb, okay? Which.

apparently, Bill Clinton wrote a get. well soon note to Epstein's mom on a. post-it. Not even like a fancy papyrus. card that you have to pay $6 for, a. post-it. Epstein saved the post-it. Bill. Clinton is asked, and he says, I mean, it looks like my handwriting, but I. don't recall. But I will tell you this. I have written get well notes to lots of. people I did not know and had never met. And you're like, yeah, I mean, as the. former president, I'm sure you're. writing a bunch of to people. that you don't necessarily care about.

One of the notes that Bill Clinton also. wrote to Epstein, he kept on his plane. and it reads along the lines of like, "Thanks for inviting me and letting me. invade your private space. I'm exhausted. and glad to get away from the crowd and. we will forge ahead. I'll finally figure. out the financial stuff." Which all of. it does seem on par with what Bill. Clinton has been saying of like, "Oh, we. were just going around for philanthropic. efforts." So, it's like when they bring. these up, now it seems like, "Okay, what's happening?" But, you can tell. where there are just certain topics. where Bill Clinton and his lawyers, they.

don't seem to like to talk about it and. those notes are not one of those topics. However, the painting of Bill Clinton. wearing what could be presumed as Monica. Lewinsky's dress and sitting on the. chair with his legs draped over, they. give him a picture of that. So, Mr. President, we are looking at an image of you, a. portrait that looks to be of you, Mr. President, in this blue dress. Can you. describe this painting? His lawyer. interjects, "He doesn't need to describe. the painting. You just gave him a.

picture. What's your question?" "Do you. understand why someone would paint. this?" Objection, this calls for. speculation. You can ask the artist. But, Bill Clinton responds, If I had. known Jeffrey Epstein had this painting, it would have saved me this whole day. Saying if he knew Epstein had this. painting, he would have never associated. with Epstein and then he wouldn't be. deposed right now. Mhm. There are no emails suggesting that Bill. Clinton ever visited the island. Though, we have late Virginia Giuffre's. allegation that he was on the island. The Secret Service has indicated that. they had not been to the island and Bill.

Clinton does state that he has never. signed off on Secret Service. So, meaning that you would have to like sign. off of like, "I don't want Secret. Service protecting me right now." So, that would be the only time that he. would potentially go to the island Mhm. without Secret Service and he has no. record of signing off on Secret Service. I see. But, he does admit that he did. make a brief visit to Epstein's. Manhattan townhouse, but he does not. recall if Epstein was even there at the. time, which is kind of crazy how you. don't recall that. Like, are you just. visiting people's empty homes without.

the homeowner there? It's kind of odd. Like, you would know that. I think um he. was trying to phrase it as like, "Oh, I. was walking with my friend and they were. like, 'Oh, you know Epstein, he lives. right down there and he's so proud of. his house, which is this elementary. school that's been converted. So, we. should go. We should just stop by and. say hi because he's a donor. He would. love that. Blah blah blah.'" They walk. in. He's making it seem like, "We don't. know We were asking like, 'Oh, is Mr. Epstein home?'" That's crazy. >> Yeah. Yeah. But, he doesn't remember. Okay? But, again, Maria Farmer was like, "Pretty.

sure I saw him in the house when he was. a sitting president." So, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I was in the. house. I don't know anything. But, remember, Epstein, he loved in his. Manhattan townhouse apparently to. display pictures of young girls, young. nude girls. >> Yes. >> Bill Clinton says he never saw anything. like that. He says that he also never. saw any staff members that were young. girls inside the house. Well. During. your relationship at the time that you. knew Mr. Epstein, what did you. understand his job to be? I'm not sure I. knew. It was never clear to me, but he. could have been living on you know,

investing the profits that he's already. made. I knew he was this finance guy. I'm not sure I knew. It was never clear. to me, but he could have been living. on investing the profits he'd already. made. I knew he was this finance guy. I. would just like to ask you directly, do. you believe that Jeffrey Epstein killed. himself? The lawyer jumps in. Are you asking him. to speculate on how Mr. Epstein died? Do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein. killed himself? Are you asking him to. speculate on how Mr. Epstein died? I I'm. asking what the president thinks about.

uh So, you're asking his opinion? Mr. President, was your Was your friend. Jeffrey Epstein suicidal? >> him as a friend who he has testified. that he was friendly? >> in a letter. >> He said he was friendly, but not You've. asked for his testimony. >> I mean, she's sharp. Okay, she She's. doing her job well, but it is kind of. crazy. Do you believe that Jeffrey. Epstein was suicidal? Do you know? Was he ever suicidal? >> you understand. >> know. I only know what the medical. finding was. I think maybe That's it. he. finally got caught.

I don't know. I've I've I've accepted it. in my own mind. I don't know what. happened. Mr. President, what did you accept that. he self-exited or that he did not? That. he did, but I don't know. None of us. know. We weren't there. Then Mark Middleton is brought up. The. House Committee states in the deposition. and asks Bill Clinton, "Mike Middleton was found dead at Hefner. Ranch approximately 30 miles from his. home in Little Rock. He was discovered. hanging from a tree by an extension cord. around his neck with a self-inflicted.

gunshot wound to his chest. So, he was. shot and on [music] a rope. Do you have. any information that leads you to. suspect that he was. that he did not that he did something. other than self-exit? No. Do you have any concerns that this was. in relation to his knowledge or. relationship with Jeffrey Epstein given. the date? I'm asking when you heard. about this death knowing about the. things that have at this point it's all. over the news seeing that he has. self-exited, have you ever had any. conversations with people about whether. or not there's any relationship between.

the two?". I was No. No one's ever suggested it to. me. Okay. Thank you. I yield back. Next up, Mr. >> It's really sad. And this deposition has. mixed feelings. A lot of people are I. again, understandably so, it's become. very political. It's kind of gotten. annoying, I will say, where. political in the sense of there are some. people who are like, "Well, it's not. Bill Clinton because Trump is. deflecting." Or it's "Oh, look, Trump is.

finally going after these people because. he's innocent." And it's like, let's. just maybe not make it about politics. and absolve people of guilt just based. on their political alliance because. that's just not how it works. So, I will. say those types of sentiments have. gotten annoying, but um some people. think that this quote, "This was such a. waste of time and a joke because he was. never going to answer anything. honestly.". Others are commenting, "If there was any. substance to Clinton's involvement, you. know damn well Trump would have thrown.

him under the bus and made it back up, too. Anything to keep the lights off of. his ass." Others are saying, "This is. obviously political persecution by. someone who himself is mentioned in the. files a million times." Other people are. saying, "He's a piece of when it. comes to women and an absolute. womanizer, but that doesn't inherently. mean that he's into kids. Very possible. to be one type and not the other. I. don't think that this is as cut and dry. with him as it is with someone like. Trump." To which someone else comments, "Who cares? Put them both in. jail." Some netizens are actually. frustrated with the questions being.

asked. Quote, "These people are amateurs. at best. A rock could have formed better. questions." Another quote, "Corruption. These questions were carefully. fabricated, mostly opinions and. speculations. Seems like both sides are. in bed with each other. If he goes down, so does everybody else who's included in. that list.". Another one reads, "You think someone in. this room would be capable of reading a. clear and complete sentence out loud? Absolute incompetence." But, here's the. part that I can't get over. It's like everybody has their political. alliance and they're going to feel one.

type of way and it's we could go all. day, like Hillary Clinton said, until. the cows come home going back and forth. of "Well, maybe he's bad, but your guy. is badder." Or like, "Maybe they're both. bad, but your guy first." Like, there's. we could do this all day and nothing. will ever happen. However, this is the. most enlightening part to me and to a. lot of people. A Democratic representative takes over. questioning and they open with, It is. well understood that you had a personal. relationship with Mr. Epstein and we.

will talk about that today. But, the events I just described color. our perspective on the conversation. It appears as if you and other. Democratic figures have been targeted by. President Donald Trump in an attempt to. distract the American people from his. own long-standing relationship with. Jeffrey Epstein. And if that were true, it would not be. the first time that President Trump has. targeted his political enemies under the. guise of law enforcement. This deposition is occurring in the.

context of unprecedented weaponization. of the Department of Justice by Donald. Trump. Which some people loved, some. people hated. Obviously, you know why. Republicans would hate that type of. conversation, but some Democrats were. really opposed to sentiments like this. saying, "Yes, the urgency is far greater. and higher when there are questions. about trafficking for the sitting. president of the United States." But, they're saying like, "We don't think. Bill Clinton is like off the hook, either. So, like we don't have to put.

him up on a pedestal like. he's definitely done nothing wrong just. to push." You know, they're saying it's. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. However, I will say. most Democrats were really happy that. the Clintons were deposed and that they. testified and they did not look for. loopholes. I'm sure they did, but they. didn't find a successful loophole to not. be deposed because they have now set the. Clinton rule that even presidents can be. deposed if subpoenaed. Mhm. I see. So, who's next, you know? Obviously,

everybody wants it to be Trump. This is the startling part. Bill Clinton. is interestingly asked, "So, to get more. information for this investigation, was. you know, wondering if you also agree. that President Trump should answer. questions of [music] this committee?". We believe in the minority that. President Trump should also answer this. committee's questions. Uh he's someone that is mentioned almost. more than any other person beside. Ghislaine Maxwell uh in the Epstein. documents. Uh and so we would to get more. information for this investigation, was.

wondering if you also agree that that. President Trump should answer questions. of this committee. That's for you to. decide, but he didn't know him well, you. know, and I once had a brief discussion. >> know him well. Trump didn't know Epstein. well. And I. >> Said by Bill by Bill. >> Clinton. Yeah. >> [clears throat]. >> That's for you to decide, but he didn't. know him well and I once had a brief. discussion with him about it. Uh I I. hate this, but cuz I don't believe I. should interject anything. But I do not want to leave the. impression he never the president never.

this is 20 something years ago. never said anything to me to make me. think he was involved in anything. improper with regard to Epstein either. He he just didn't he just said we were. friends. And then we had a falling out over a. land deal. Could I ask very briefly Mr. President if you recall what were the. circumstances of that conversation or at. least let's start with when did that. conversation occur? He says that Trump told him this on a. golf course decades ago saying something.

along the lines of like Somehow knew I. have flown in Jeffrey Epstein's aircraft. and he said you know we had some. great times together over the years but. we fell out. all because of a real estate deal. He. says he doesn't recall who brought it up. in the conversation first on the golf. course if it was him or Trump. He can. imagine it was him because he you know. would never do something like that. Do. you recall whether Trump elaborated at. all on the great times that he had with. Jeffrey Epstein? No no and I took you.

know at the time I didn't put any sexual. [music] stint to it. I didn't put any sexual stand on it. He. later reiterates once more The only. conversation I have with President Trump. about this. was in the early 2000s and I have no. information that he did anything wrong. I just want it all out there. I want. everybody to get it all out there and. let everybody see where we are. Which a lot of people feel like this is. straight out of a mutual destruction.

playbook. The way that Bill Clinton. talks about Ghislaine Maxwell and Trump. the way that Ghislaine Maxwell talks. about Bill Clinton and Trump. everybody is like they're playing games. right in front of our faces. That's the. feeling. A lot of people think it's. because both men are guilty but only one. of them is in office right now. That's. why maybe Clinton is being nicer to. Trump than Trump is being nice to. Clinton about the files. But it seems. like both of them neither Clinton nor. Trump have had any scathing words for. Ghislaine Maxwell even though both of.

them. have a hatred for trafficking and. traffickers right? And also why is Bill. Clinton going out of his way to tell. everybody that Trump is innocent? The. same Trump that made Hillary Clinton's. life so unbearable for so long too. Mhm. This is not like oh we're mutuals. Oh. we're part of the same party. It's so. bizarre. Yeah. Depending on who you ask. public opinion will be oh because Bill. Clinton's guilty or because they both. are. With that being said. there's a lot on Trump. In July and.

August of 2025 the FBI internally. circulated Epstein related allegations. that mentioned Trump. There are a lot of. crazy salacious allegations by the way. and I think that this is where the. conspiracies of their eating babies. stems from because of this internal. document. Now this internal document. people have been kind of recklessly and. this is not in defense of the. administration okay? This is people are. presenting this as these are valid FBI. internal documents of crimes that have. been committed. That's not what this.

says. The FBI decided that they were. going to compile a document of anybody. who's even called in to give an. allegation regarding Epstein and Trump. So they compiled this entire document. and on one side they list what the phone. call detailed or the tip detailed or the. allegation detailed [music] and then in. the middle they detailed whether they. were able to contact the person again to. further interview them whether they. found corroborating evidence or whether. they found no evidence or proof that. this was a lie and then oddly the third.

little box they have on the right side. was any criminal history that this. person has the one giving the. allegation. Was this leaked? It was in. the Epstein files dump. Wow. Okay. It is. important to note that most media. outlets. have reported even you know places like. the New York Times have reported that it. seems that the FBI was not able to. verify most of the allegations and that. they deemed it to be unverifyable or not. credible. But I'm just going to tell you.

what it is. There could be some things. in here that are true. There could be. nothing in here that's true. All of it. could be true but just because it's in. an internal document does not mean that. we can believe everything. So one. complaint summary on the internal note. reads caller named to other individual. named in a big orgy party with her other. young girls and older VS models. Victoria's Secret models including Bill. Clinton and Donald Trump. So now this is. saying that they were all in some sort. of big orgy party. >> Yeah which you know a lot of people have. gone down with more memes of big.

beautiful Bill. Complainant reported. participating in orgies and that some. girls went missing rumored to have been. murdered and buried at a golf course. Complainant reported being threatened by. Trump's then head of security that if. she ever talked about what she saw or. what happened she would quote end up as. fertilizer for the back nine holes like. the other. She claims that she saw cartels involved. in the parties and that she watched. Robin Leach who I believe is a reporter. strangle a young girl to death at a. party. The FBI note deems her claims to. not be credible. Complainant was spoken.

to and deemed not credible. Additional. research showed three separate incidents. involving police which requested in. mandatory psychiatric evaluations. That's the internal note. I do believe. that's where a lot of the baby. sacrifices and consumption and. conspiracies like they all start. stemming from here. Then another one. complainant reported Donald Trump. participated regularly in paying money. to force her to perform acts with him. and alleged Trump was present when her. uncle murdered her newborn child. Conclusion of the FBI was quote no.

contact made. Another caller believes. that the FBI has pictures of her as a. baby with Epstein. But the note that the. agents made was no contact made previous. tips indicated she had called in and. said she had chemically induced amnesia. and struggled with knowing what was a. dream and what was reality. I mean I do hope that the FBI did way. more internally for gathering whether. this is credible or not than just oh she. has chemically induced amnesia because. both things could be true but. we don't know. These are just internal. notes. Another complainant tells the FBI.

and this is from the internal note again. not stated as fact Donald Trump the. president had parties at Mar-a-Lago. called calendar girls. Jeffrey Epstein. would bring the children in and Trump. would auction them off. He measured the. children's private parts by entering. digits and rated private parts. The. guests were elder men and included Elon. Musk Don Jr. Trump Ivanka Trump and Eric. Trump were all there. Attorney Alan. Dershowitz was also there with attorney. Bob Shapiro. We were taken in rooms. forced to have.

with Donald J. Trump forced to allow. them to. assault. I was 13 years old when Donald. J. Trump arwarded me. Ghislaine Maxwell. was also present. The FBI notes no contact information. provided. So this could just be like a. call in tip and then hang up. So this. could be this could be true right? It's it's a wild wild claim right? I'm. not saying that any of these people are. absolved of any guilt and I don't think. that they're guilty or anything but this. is a very insane claim okay? To have. parties.

>> Wouldn't it be so easy for them to find. their contact though? Yeah. It's FBI you. know. But I mean They the way that. they're running it right now I don't. know if they're yeah but no contact. information was provided so I maybe the. FBI also deems maybe there's some sort. of statistic if you don't leave your. contact information it could be the same. as prank calling. I don't know how they. see it. I don't know how they rate it. It's so interesting like you can just. call them and leave a tip. I imagine if. you call police and say something really. scary the police would be like oh.

we got to investigate. We got to call. them. We got to figure it out. They. don't just stop by oh they didn't tell. me their address. >> Yeah. They're going to find out your. name your address and they're going to. come to you. And then probably arrest. you. The note further reads no contact. information provided so they just move. on. Okay this is where it starts getting. weird. I think up until this point. everyone no one really believes any of. the previous allegations or like they I. mean. it would just be so crazy and if it's. true. I don't even know what the implications. of something like that would be just on.

a global scale of like these are like. conspiracy theories that we never. thought were going to be true and then. they become true. I don't know how that. would even impact anything like it would. be crazy but these are ones that. netizens are taking more seriously. Again these are unverified allegations. Caller reported that in 1987 a friend. [music] victim one was out drinking and. ended up at Trump Plaza. Victim one saw. Donald Trump and wanted to meet him. An. unknown man approached her and offered. to introduce her to Trump. The unknown. man gave victim one a drink and victim.

one woke up naked and sore in bed with. $300 on the bed. Victim one didn't. remember how she got to the room. She. remembered seeing a flash of Trump's. face. Victim one called the caller and. was like I think that I've been. arwarded. Victim one did not go to the. hospital to have an arward kit performed. because she didn't think that anyone. would believe her especially because she. was drunk. They later said that victim. one had a husband whose business had. problems with suppliers and victim one. believed Trump was behind it. Victim one. also started dating a lawyer identity is.

unknown who was married. Victim one had. a fight with her lawyer boyfriend and. went to a bar. Victim one left a bar. with a man who no one in the bar. recognized but who seemed familiar with. victim one. Victim one was never seen. again. A few years later remains were. discovered that matched the description. of what victim one was wearing when she. went missing. DNA tests at the time were. inconclusive. The FBI notes no contact. made victim identified as deceased and. complainant did not have confirmed. information. But worse than that so this. is released and it's bad because I mean.

we don't know how the FBI unconfirmed. like said that these are uncredible. accounts how they were able to say that. these are not real. Like we don't know. It just says unconfirmed. It doesn't say anything specific so we. don't know if it's really unconfirmed if. they were able to follow through with. the steps or they're just like they They. leave contact information so. automatically unconfirmed. They have a. history of psychiatric evaluations, automatically unconfirmed, like. unverified. We don't know. So, obviously, this causes quite a bit of.

stir, and then of course, there's people. going online saying like, "This is. confirmed. This is what happened. They're eating babies." And then that's. caused like a whole different situation. of itself. However, this next part is. the real problem. NPR publishes an. article alleging that the DOJ has. redacted 50-something pages, and a House. Oversight Committee ranking member, Representative Robert Garcia states, "Yesterday, I reviewed those pages. I. reviewed unredacted evidence logs that. the DOJ oversight Democrats can confirm. that the DOJ appears to have illegally. withheld FBI interviews with the.

survivor who accused President Trump of. heinous crimes." [music]. The White House response to this NPR. article was in short, "Just as President. Trump has said, he's been totally. exonerated on anything related to. Epstein. [music] President Trump has. done more for Epstein victims than. anyone else before him." But the file is. bad. [music]. So, this is from July 8th, 2019, before. Epstein dies in prison, like a month. before. And it's an FBI file. It's an FBI. internal document where they're. interviewing someone. At 1:43 p.m.

Eastern time, blank redacted contacted. the FBI National Threat Operations. Center to report an unidentified friend. who may have been abused by Jeffrey. Epstein in an unknown manner. Redacted. states that she was recently informed by. an unidentified female friend currently. residing in Portland, Oregon that she. was forced to perform oral sex on. President Trump approximately 35 years. ago in the state of New Jersey. Redacted. friend stated that she was approximately. 13 to 14 years of age when this. occurred. The friend allegedly bit. President Trump while performing oral.

and described his quote heavy breathing. The friend was allegedly hit in the face. after she laughed about biting him. The. FBI bring in the protected individual. and she has a sit-down interview with. them. Now, again, just because the FBI. interviews someone does not mean that. their allegations are true. But what a. lot of people feel is. to have that interview, seems like you. kind of already feel or suspect. or think. She states that Epstein blackmailed her. mom as well, that Epstein had unclosed.

photos of her and blackmailed her mom, and she had to her mom. So, this is what. the victim is saying, like, "Epstein was. crazy. He was blackmailing me. He. blackmailed my mom, and my mom had to. steal and embezzle money from the real. estate company that she works for.". >> This is the same person, the 13-14 year. old. >> Yes. I mean, she's much older now, but. yeah. And she had to pay him to not release. these photos. Later in the interview, it's noted that she recalled at least. one incident in which he either drove or. flew her to New Jersey or New York, and. she was quote "introduced to someone.

with money money." It was Donald Trump. She later states, "He had money. It. reeked off of him." She alleges that she. could tell from the get-go that Trump. did not like her because she dressed. like a tomboy. She claims that Trump. later asked everyone to leave the room. and told her allegedly quote "Let me. teach you how little girls are supposed. to be." Then she alleges that he. unzipped his pants and pushed her head. down, and she quote "bit the out of. it." The report then reads, "Trump. struck redacted victim and said words to. the effect of get this little the. hell out of here." Redacted advised she.

bit Trump because she was disgusted. The. FBI report reads, "Redacted got the. feeling the relationship between Epstein. and Trump included a certain amount of. jealousy. She thought Trump appeared. jealous of Epstein, but at some point. they ended up on level playing fields. Trump and Epstein sometimes used the. terms fresh meat, untainted, and not. jaded while referring to girls." [music]. At the time she heard it, redacted did. not understand the term not jaded. She. subsequently looked up the word jaded. Redacted states she had two additional. interactions with Trump, but she asked. for the interview to move on to a.

different subject for the time being. What is unjaded? Jaded is like. This is Okay, in this context, a lot of. PDF files will say that they like young. kids because they're so amused and un. not jaded by the world. >> Mhm. And you know, as people get older, as women get older, you realize that not. a lot of men out there are good men, and. they can abuse you, and maybe you know, vice versa. But it's just used in that very sick.

way. >> Yeah. Later she states that after she. bit him, the note reads, quote "She. provided further details that he pulled. her hair and punched her on the side of. the head." She also alleges, per the FBI. report, that quote "Epstein liked having. little rubber things put into his anus, that he had her do it, such as a pencil, a big eraser, little rubber things, a. water bottle, all inserted down there. into Epstein, and that instead of using. lubricant, he preferred kitchen oil.". Now, this interview is back from 2019, before the allegations and rumors that.

Epstein is part of Mossad, Israel's. intelligence agency, like that was not a. big thing back in the day in 2019. But. she states to the FBI that she. frequently heard Epstein speak in Hebrew. around her. But just because you speak Hebrew does. not mean that you work for Mossad. But a. lot of people have been focusing on that. as like, he worked for the Mossad. Now, the report continues, "Epstein talked. about blackmailing people in front of. redacted. Redacted was confident Trump. knew Epstein blackmailed people because. she heard Epstein and Trump talking.

about it. Redacted stated she knew Trump. had illegal building permits. She heard. Trump talking about washing money. through casinos. Number six is Donald. Trump's favorite number. Redacted was. not sure how she knew that, but she had. heard it at one point." One part of the. FBI interview note reads, "Redacted. asked the agents to keep her safe, [music]. stating, 'Throughout my life, Epstein's. people have found me, have kept tabs on. me.'". Which Virginia Giuffre has also felt and. expressed in her book before her. passing. As of right now, these have not been.

proven to be credible allegations, which. does not mean that they're not true. >> [music]. >> I would have no such information of. that. However, one interesting thing to. note again is that the FBI interviews. this specific individual like three. times. Which feels as if they're taking. it very, very seriously. Then according. to NPR, it doesn't really go anywhere. because [music] apparently someone in. the FBI writes, "One identified victim. claimed abuse by Trump, but ultimately. refused to cooperate." So, now the.

question with a lot of people is, did. the investigation go nowhere because the. allegations are untrue, or because this. victim does not want to cooperate? And. that's why it led nowhere. Or it could be both, right? It could be. untrue and she doesn't want to cooperate. because they're untrue, right? We don't. know. There is also a second accuser, and side. note, I'm sure if you watch a lot of videos or. you consume a lot of articles about the. whole Epstein situation, accuser is. technically how they're formally. identified in a lot of reports and even. reporting, but I feel like that word.

always has a negative connotation, but. it's just best for legal purposes. But a. second accuser has six interviews with. the FBI, and she claims that when she. was around 13 years old, Epstein took. her to Mar-a-Lago to meet with Trump, and that Epstein apparently told Trump, "This is a good one, huh?" She claims. that both the men chuckled and she felt. uncomfortable, but at the time she was. too young to understand why. So, there's a lot in the second. accuser's interview that sounds very. reminiscent of all the other accuser's. accounts of abuse, which has led.

netizens to believing in their personal. opinions that this may be true. The weird part about this is that these. are not included in the dump. These like. 16-something pages come days, weeks. later because of this NPR exposé. Oh, like a separate drop. >> Yes. This was not in like the 3 million. pages drop. So, everyone's like, "Why. did you not just drop it with the 3. million pages?" In fact, if you dropped. it with the 3 million pages, it probably. would have taken a lot people like we. would have to dig for it.

>> Right. But then people found out that. there was because they found out like. through the way that the files were. named and numbered. So, there was like a. big chunk missing, so they're like, "What's the chunk?" So, NPR exposed it. Then the House Committee representatives. went into the unredacted file computer. that they have access to, and they're. like, "I found the files. These are what. they say." And then the DOJ was like, "Fine, I'll release them." How did NPR. get it? Yeah. From some inside source? No, so they were going through like the. metadata of files. So, they're like, "Uh, something is like we were This is.

weird.". >> Oh. I'm sure they have like probably AI. and stuff to comb through massive. amounts of metadata. >> Interesting. Okay. Yeah. Huh. Yeah, so. the DOJ though claims that the only. reason that happened was the file was. temporarily removed because it was. flagged by a victim or their counsel for. additional review, which a lot of people. don't believe because they're releasing. all sorts of crazy things. Karoline. Leavitt has stated, "These are. completely baseless accusations backed. by zero credible evidence from a sadly.

disturbed woman who has an extensive. criminal history. The total baselessness. of these accusations is also supported. by the obvious fact that Joe Biden's. Department of Justice knew about them. for 4 years and did nothing with them. because they knew President Trump did. absolutely nothing wrong. As we have. said countless times, President Trump. has been totally exonerated by the. release of the Epstein files.". But the House Oversight Democrats state, "Let's be clear. This White House. cover-up is ongoing. Millions of pages. still remain concealed from the public. and our committee." So, with that. that is what's going on right now with.

the Epstein files. Those are the major. news headlines in depth. Um, there's. just so many more files, and there's, you know, a lot of people that we. already talked about, new details are. coming out. Like remember the um Goldman. Sachs. She's the head of legal, chief legal. officer or something for Goldman Sachs. She just recently resigned, Kathy. She. also worked with the Obamas. Yeah, she. was like getting exposed for getting an. Hermes bag from Epstein, and like.

there's just so much like random small. stuff as well. Let me know what are your. thoughts, and we're going to try to give. as many updates as possible as time and. capacity permits, but lots of people are. doing really good reporting on the. Epstein files, so. What are your thoughts? Let me know in. the comments and stay safe. I will see. you in the next one.