D4vd Uses Celeste’s Voice In New Songs Months Before Her Body Is Found? + New Updates From Police

barabing baraboo. >> Occam's razor is often known as the law. of simplicity, aka the simplest answer. is usually the correct one. It's. supposed to be this principle in solving. life's greatest problems. People have. definitely over simplified Occam's razor. to hell and back and they think it just. means keep it simple. It's technically a. misinterpretation and I do find. philosophy majors to be beautifully. insufferable, but I can see why they get. frustrated at the way that we've just. turned Occam's razor into simple. The.

main message of Occam's razor is if you. have two competing hypothesis that. equally explain the observed data, the. one with the fewer assumptions should be. the one that's selected. The emphasis is. on having fewer assumptions rather than. just picking the simpler one. >> Mhm. >> That's why it's called Occam's razor. Occam, after William of Ockham, the. philosopher who popularized this method, and razor because you're supposed to. shave away at all of the assumptions to. get to the the meat, the core of the.

matter. I see people referencing Occam's. razor for the case of Celeste Rivas. Hernandez and singer D4vd, aka David, that the simplest answer is the correct. one, which I tend to agree that the very. circumstantial evidence so far, at least. the way that it's being presented by. alleged sources close to the two, the. way that it's being presented thus far, it does not look good for David. But. even if that is the case, it's not a. simple answer. How are you supposed to.

shave away at all the different. assumptions when the entire case is just. a giant ball of assumptions at this. point. Such as, as of right now, the. police have yet to confirm a. relationship between David and Celeste. So, that's technically, that whole thing. is an assumption. There are screenshots, videos, pictures, people coming forward. to allege that they were intimately. connected. [music] Some netizens believe. that they might have known each other. since she was 11 years old, which would. have been back in 2021. >> [music]. >> That's an assumption. Then there's the. assumption that there's another Celeste. in David's life. I will say that this is.

um. less of an assumption, but no statements. have been made by either party, and we. will operate as basically everything is. an assumption aside from the handful of. things that we absolutely know to be. true. That there is another Celeste, and. people are calling her at the other. Celeste, second [music] Celeste, decoy. Celeste, older Celeste. Netizens say. that the two girls look very similar, and when you look at the pictures of. just their faces, they don't look. familiar, but there is a belief that. both Celeste would often wear similar.

things, such as the same Gap hoodie, or. at least it looks like the same Gap. hoodie, the one that Celeste is pictured. in her missing child poster. Both of. them have been spotted wearing it. Giant. oversized eyeglasses. And there are. theories and speculations that David did. this on purpose, that he brought in an. adult Celeste, an adult woman named. Celeste, who could maybe sometimes pass. for the victim Celeste. So that if he is. ever, quote-unquote, exposed for. allegedly dating a minor, he could turn. around and say, "You guys have it wrong.

My girlfriend is an adult woman named. Celeste. They just look the same. They. have similar names, but that's it.". That's a theory, that's an assumption. And once you shave off all of that, there's like nothing left in the middle. There's The only core of the matter that. we have so far, as of filming this, is. September 8th, 2025 of this year, while. David is out on his world tour, still. based in the US before starting his. European leg. Back in Hollywood Hills, his Tesla gets impounded. Neighbors of a.

residential street close to where. David's manager rents a house that is. most likely for David. It's $20,000 a. month. Near that house, neighbors report. David's Tesla of just being parked all. around the street for about at least 3. weeks, and then eventually it just. stopped moving. So they had it. impounded. It had Texas license plates. Nobody had reported the car missing. And. then employees of the tow yard, Hollywood Tow, they call the police. because they say, "Hey, something is. funky fresh scent in here. Like the. scent of this is emanating from the.

trunk." The police come and they. discover a dead body in the car. The car. has [clears throat] not been reported. stolen, and David is not in Los Angeles. He is out on tour. Even how the body has. been found, at least to the public, is a. giant assumption. Some reports such as. the LA Times initially stated it was. just a head and a torso. Other outlets. have been using the word dismembered or. in pieces, but nobody can seem to agree. Is it just a head and a torso? Is the. body dismembered? LAPD and the medical. examiner's office. have been so quiet about this entire.

situation. The cause of death has been. deferred. They're not even outright. calling this a homicide investigation, but rather a death investigation that is. being handled by the LAPD robbery and. homicide unit. >> Except in one statement. >> Yes, they made a little slip in a. statement where they said, "Anytime. you're dealing with a homicide. investigation." But they have not. formally stated like this is a homicide. investigation. They're saying, "Actually, it could take weeks or months. to even determine if a crime had been. committed." Which people are questioning. even that because what do you mean? Nobody goes into a trunk by themselves.

>> Mhm. Yeah. >> It doesn't make sense. David's. spokesperson releases a very short. statement that states along the lines of. David has been informed, he's. cooperating with the police. Which leads. initially a lot of people to believe. that David is not involved, especially. considering he continues his tour. He. does multiple shows. He does a show. September 9th. >> [music]. >> But there are growing questions. We know. the body is a female in the trunk. She.

allegedly has a shh tattoo on her. finger. It's alleged that David has the. same tattoo. Now, I know that there are. so many new reports saying that TMZ made. that up, and David does not have a shh. tattoo. It's hard to find a lot of um. >> Shh means s h h. >> Yeah, like you put it on your in right. index finger to like shh. >> Mhm. >> Rihanna popularized it, but there have. been reports that TMZ lied about him. having a tattoo. People are pointing to. how on Instagram pictures you don't see. it. So, some are saying, "Well, maybe he. recently got it." Some are saying, "Well, maybe he edits it out of his.

Instagram pictures." Others are saying, and this is my opinion if this is true, if all of this is no longer there, I had. a finger tattoo, it went away really. quickly. Some people metabolize the ink. differently, but that's been a whole. debate. So, allegedly, he had the same. matching tattoo. Then, it's not until. September 17th, 2025, that the body is. identified as 14-year-old Celeste Rivas. Hernandez. This is again an assumption, though, because her body was discovered. September 8th. The medical examiner. states that it's her belief that she had.

been in the car for some time. Celeste's. birthday is September 7th, the day. before her body is found. It is unlikely. that she saw her 15th birthday. So, now. even some media sources. >> is an assumption, you mean? >> The medical examiner and a lot of media. sources, they still kind of categorize. her age closer to 15. Most of mainstream. media sources are saying 15-year-old, because it was past her birthday and. they're going off the date that her body. is found. So, I think, medically. speaking, that's how they do it. Mainstream media is going with that, but. it's likely that she was technically 14.

>> Yeah, she never made it to 15. >> Exactly. So, it's technically a. 14-year-old's body, but it's just even. that, because. >> that we don't know. Is it 14 or 13? Like. >> Yeah, we don't know. >> 14? Like she went missing. >> Friends say that they had contact with. her July of 2025, so she would have been. 14. But we cannot confirm even that. We. don't know who these friends are. The. police haven't talked to them. They. haven't verified metadata of text. messages or calls. And even text. messages, you can't prove that it's.

Celeste texting people. It's just very. tricky. It No one knows really the time. of death. >> I see. >> We can confirm, the only thing I will. say is. this is the latest confirm that I got of. someone seeing her. There's visual in a. video that's been uploaded was July of. last year. >> 24? >> Yes. So, it's all over the place. I mean, it. we really don't know. But, regardless, her body is identified and David stops. his tour. He makes no further statements. But, judging by his wording of news outlets,

his spokesperson is no longer the one. that's being reached. It is his. attorney. The Hollywood Hills rental. home is searched by the authorities 2. days after that. They are seen walking. out of his house with evidence bags, electronics. And they say that they are. exploring all potential avenues. David. has, at least at the time of recording. this, has not been named a suspect. He. has not been detained. He has not been. arrested. He has not made any further. statements. David has now moved out of. the Hollywood Hills house that his. manager was renting. The property owner. states, "They're moving out this week. The moving trucks will be here soon.

They decided to move out because of the. ongoing circumstances. They don't want. to be here anymore." But, nothing more. Celesta's family have been very quiet as. well publicly. And a lot of assumptions. are being made by the internet. The. police are quiet. David and his team are. quiet. Celesta's family are quiet. This. case has so many assumptions and. coincidences and connections that I. think that most people are uncomfortable. with it. It just feels like maybe if. there's one piece of circumstantial. evidence, it's weird. But, when you have. 50, and then you have new ones coming.

out every hour, it's hard to remain. completely neutral. And so, with these elements, netizens. have come up with a few theories. Five. theories to be exact. One, he killed her. for fame, a Hollywood sacrifice. Two, he's innocent. Three, he's. involved, but maybe not first-degree. murder. Perhaps there was an overdose. Perhaps there was something else that. happened that he did not physically. outright kill her. Four, this is a multi-part theory. David.

is guilty. I will say, again, he has not been. arrested. There is a presumption of. innocence until proven guilty in the. court of law that everyone should. receive, but this is just a theory. But, there are theories that if he is guilty, it was due to his sick jealousy, or maybe perhaps she realized that she. was being groomed and was ready to tell. someone, or she was pregnant. And five, there is a lot more that we don't know, and perhaps other people are connected. I will say that theories range from.

creations of somebody in a desperate. need of going outside, just crazy to. plausible. But, this is what the. internet thinks happened to Celeste. Rivas Hernandez, the 14-year-old little. girl found deceased in the trunk of. David's car. >> [music].

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well as themes like gore. There's also a. brief mention of potential dismemberment. and decomp. Also, another huge part of. this is that there have been zero. convictions, zero arrests, zero. anything. I mean, we really have nothing. besides what the authorities have said. in their very brief, very polished press. briefings. That's it. We will be doing. our very best to debunk or verify all of. the online rumors, and there are so many. online rumors. And then, right when you. think a rumor has been somewhat. verified, it seems like most people.

believe it, and then someone comes out. and tries to debunk it, and then it. sounds plausible, and so things are. going to be moving, and things are going. to be changing non-stop. So, I don't. even know how dated this episode is. going to be. So, just keep that in mind. I mean, in a month everything could be. different. We'll just have to see. We. also want to disclaim that all. screenshots or media posted by people. online can be edited or faked. We did. our best to try and verify everything, but I mean, I'm not an expert on how AI. creates pictures or deep fakes. It's I. tried my best to make sure we get to the.

original tweet or the original source, and then see if there's anybody pointing. out anything that's clearly obviously AI. generated, but even that has been very. difficult. So, with that being said, let's get. started. One of David's neighbors. decides that they're going to talk to. the media about David and Celeste and. what they saw, but they're going to be. unnamed, which makes sense, but they're. also going to talk to The Sun, which is. a very questionable outlet. It It's like. um It's like the Daily Mail. >> Mhm. >> So, take it as you will, but they speak.

to The Sun, and they allege that. Celeste, the victim, the 14-year-old. girl, was living with 20-year-old David. in his Hollywood Hills house. They say, "He was with the girl regularly, like. all the time. I would be in my car, and. we would acknowledge each other, say hi. That's about it. When they were heading. to the store or whatever, I would pass. them. They were pretty quiet. I never saw. police there. I didn't hear them. partying or anything, nothing wild. I. was shocked to find out what happened. I. saw them a couple months ago. I'm not. sure, but I thought they were just kids,

like a couple of 18, 19-year-olds. I had. no idea. It's crazy.". >> So, this is only reported by The Sun. >> Yes. >> Mhm. So, we That's it. We don't know who. they are. >> Yeah. We don't know if they're a real. neighbor. We don't know if this is. actually what they saw. >> Mhm. >> You know, I didn't know he was a singer, but I knew he had a Tesla, cuz it was. always parked outside. This Tesla has a giant dent on the back. That has been confirmed. He says, "I I. did ask him about his Tesla, you know, as his car was hit, and he never fixed. it. He didn't really want to say what. happened. Anytime I tried to talk to.

them, they weren't very engaging. They. just kept to themselves. But now. netizens are confused like, why are you. talking to the son? I mean, how. trustworthy is the son? And second, are. we sure this is the Celeste or the other. Celeste? He claims it's the missing. girl. He claims it's the girl that was. found. But is he sure? Are we sure? Is. the son even sure? We don't know. David's digital footprint is also. extensive to the point that I don't know. if he's ever had a singular thought that. has not been spoken into a Discord. server somewhere out in the ether. But.

Celeste does not have a lot of pictures. of her out there where her face is not. covered. Typically, her face is covered. There are barely any videos of her. The. old picture Okay, so there's a lot of. pictures of her when she was younger. younger. She's already young, but even. younger. So there's almost more. childhood photos of her than there are. of her at 13 years old, 14 years old. There's barely any videos of her and the. ones that are popping up now, she. appears to cover her face most of the. time. It's just so hard to get a good. look at her face is the feeling. So when.

more alleged pictures and videos come. out, it's hard to definitively say, that. looks like Celeste with David. People have been trying to organize a. big document of all the reported. sightings that are real and or debunked, but it's getting difficult. One comment. reads, that's the thing. We practically. have nothing on this girl. We know that. she had a habit of running away from. home. She disabled her Instagram a lot. and she covered her face a lot. Which someone comments, what's sad is. she only seemed to exist in David's. world. Like she didn't have anything.

outside of his world. And even in his. world, she would have to hide and play. small. There are a lot of screenshots. where it's just hard to tell anything. There's the screenshot taken of a. Discord chat from March 12th, 2023. This. is almost exactly a year before she goes. missing, two and a half years before she's found. deceased. It's a screenshot of a. screenshot. Just stay with me. Someone screenshots a. picture of the Discord chat. >> Mhm. >> And one person had screenshotted David. during his [music] live stream.

>> Okay. >> And they posted that screenshot onto the. Discord server as a message. >> Yep. >> And it's. >> [music]. >> David live streaming in the most pink. room you'll ever see. It's just glowing. LED light pink. It's dark. You can't see. anything in there. You can barely see. David, but he's leaned up close to the. camera. He takes up like half the. picture. And then behind him is this. girl sitting and she's covering most of. her face with a blanket or what appears. to be like a jacket. Now, this. screenshot is posted to Discord. allegedly March 12th, 2023. That would. be when Celeste is 13 years old. Along.

with the comment, "Hey, who's the girl?". David responds allegedly, this is what. the screenshot depicts. He allegedly. responds, "You are a fed.". >> [clears throat]. >> Wow. >> And all we have is a screenshot of that. screenshot within a screenshot. >> That's crazy. >> Then there's another one where it shows. David taking a selfie with the caption, "Absolutely mogged." And next to him. appears to be a girl who appears to be. Celeste. Her face is entirely covered. almost. You can just see her eyebrows by.

a Louis Vuitton purse. You only see her curly hair. Like you. see lots of her curly hair. And so that. makes people believe it's Celeste. because she has to cover her face and. she has curly hair. It's gotten to the. point where even the accessories are. being analyzed as clues because people. are trying to track where this Louis. Vuitton bag is. I think it was last seen. in a TikTok that David filmed in 2024. So people are saying, "Well, maybe. Celeste is definitely alive and with him. at this time." Or others are saying, "He. could have gifted her the bag and then. taken it." Even accessories like. bracelets, David is seen wearing a stack.

of bracelets which appears to have also. been worn by Celeste. Or Celeste's love. for Hello Kitty that David seems to have. adopted. People are looking for. anything. And then there's just a slew. of pictures that have since gone viral. where it appears to be them together and. those have all been quickly debunked. So. either they have been either it's not. David and Celeste and it just maybe. looks like David and Celeste and it's. pictures of like the back frame. So for. one it was a guy and a girl shopping in. a mall and they're looking at a Hello. Kitty stand and people are saying that.

this is David and Celeste. It's not. David and Celeste. That's been debunked. Another one is a real legitimate picture. of Celeste that somebody took and then. David has been photoshopped in. So there. have been lots of these pictures that. have been coming like I would say a good. chunk I don't even know if we can trust. them. And then another good chunk we. don't even know if it's Celeste. For. example, there is a video where David. and a girl are inside of this arcade. People are recording them and people are. saying look it looks like Celeste and it. looks like she's hiding. It looks like. David is trying to get her away from the.

camera, but this seems to be the adult. Celeste. If you look at her her hair is in. braids. It looks more like the adult. Celeste. Her facial features. it just she just definitely looks older. as well. And so there have been all of these. different things that have come out and. it's unclear who is the Celeste. There's. I will say there are two pictures that. people believe are the real Celeste. So. one of them is a FaceTime screenshot. Whoever is FaceTiming David takes a. screenshot and they caption it Celeste.

and David don't let me sleep. And you. see both David and Celeste like peering. into the camera. >> And you can tell it looks like the the. young Celeste? >> Yes, this looks like victim Celeste, but. again we don't know if this is a real. picture if it's been edited. >> But then this person whoever took this. snap? >> Yeah. >> We don't know who that is either. >> Yeah. >> That is so strange that so many people. around them know about what's going on, but everyone's so quiet. >> A lot of his friends have come out. >> Oh, yeah? >> Um a group of his friends have come out. to say that they thought Celeste was 19.

They thought she was in college and they. understood her to be attending USC. >> Okay, so they they okay. >> But again we don't know if they're. talking about 19 or 23 year old. >> But they're probably talking about the. young Celeste. Otherwise, why would they. say I thought she was in college? Right? Otherwise, that wouldn't make. sense. >> Yeah. >> And even the other Celeste, if she can. just verify when her and David got. together, >> So that is why there's a lot of new.

theories that are happening. Um I will say the other Celeste has. probably been receiving a lot of intense. opinions and feedback from the internet. I think that benefit of the doubt should. be given as she probably could be. working with authorities and could be. telling them everything and has been. told not to say anything even if she. doesn't know the other Celeste. Even if. she has no idea what the relationship. between David and the other Celeste. might have been, could have been, we. don't know. If she knows nothing, she. honestly just could have been involved.

with a guy who's involved with a whole. lot of other things and she did not. know. So it's likely that she's working. with the authorities, but because she. has not said anything and because people. think it would be so easy for her to. come out and say, "Actually, that's me. at the arcade. That's not me. So whoever. that's in the picture, that's weird.". She People are saying that's so easy for. you to do and if you haven't done that, does that mean. something weird is like do you know. something we don't know? Do you know. something we shouldn't know?

Yeah. So this picture, this FaceTime. picture, seems to be most netizens are. on the belief that this is the real. Celeste. Then there's another picture. where it shows him posting on Instagram. to close friends and it's a picture, a. mirror selfie, with allegedly Celeste. You can't even tell it's David. You can't even tell because his hood is. covering his head, his phone is covering. the entirety of his face, and Celeste, who appears to be snuggling up to him, is covering her face with her hand. So.

you can She has curly hair. It looks. like them and most people do believe it. is them. These are the two pictures that. as of right now, are the least contested. on the internet. Along with this. Instagram picture. This is a very real. Instagram picture. It's David posing for. the camera. I I showed you the picture. It's like at a party. >> Mhm. >> With the flash on, and there is a girl. behind him with curly red hair, and she. has a head scarf on. >> Yeah. >> You see her side profile, and even then, she's covering her face with her hand. So, you can't really see her, but people. believe that to be the real Celeste.

This picture is legitimate. It's just. debated whether or not this is Celeste. The reddish hair. There's also another. video that surfaced from June 27th of. 2024, and it's David's little brother. and who appears to be Celeste with a. hood pulled over her head walking. backstage to David's. >> Yes. >> the concert. >> Right. That one. I feel like I can see the resemblance so. clearly. You told me the guy was David's. brother, younger brother, or younger.

brother. And then the girl, just through. the eyes, it looks very much like the. the real Celeste. >> And then now people are saying anytime. you see a girl with a hood covered over. her face, or covering her face a lot in. pictures and videos, a lot of people. take that to mean it's Celeste. >> Mhm. >> Because even in that concert video, she. doesn't cover her face because I don't. even think she knows someone's. recording. But when someone calls. David's little brother's name, she looks. back, and she looks timid, and she's got. the hood covered over her face, and. she's like, "What's happening?" And then.

she like goes into backstage. >> Mhm. >> So, people are saying the older Celeste, she never really hides her face. >> Yeah. >> Cuz she probably doesn't need to. >> Right. Right. Right. I see the the. theory on that. >> So, anytime you see a girl who's. covering her face And then there have. been problems because David has another. friend, two friends actually, who have. wavy curly hair. And I mean, this is not. like a very rare hair type, right? And. so, they will be pictured in the back of. photos. But you just see their curly. hair, and so people are saying, "That's. Celeste, right?" But I think when you.

just see their back, it's hard to say. People are saying, "When you see some of. her face and it's covered, it's likely. Celeste." Is the internet theory. We. could be completely wrong. People also. believe that the live stream where a. girl is next to David saying, "Is it. controversial of you kids?" That is most. likely the real Celeste. >> I media trained you. >> No, you didn't. >> That's controversial. >> It's controversial of pink kids? >> Really good It's been a good It's been a.

good one. Bye. >> Bye, guys. >> Mwah. Mwah. Mwah. Mwah. Mwah. Oh, my. Delete everything. Delete Delete. everything. Everything goes. Everything. goes. Everything. >> But as of filming this, the most recent. sighting of Celeste that can be. confirmed was posted on TikTok by a. family friend of Celeste onto her. personal TikTok account. And she posted. it back in July of 2024. >> Okay. >> Meaning this [music] can be pretty much. dated, right? It's not like all this. news is coming out and she posted this. and we're like, "We don't know if this. is from a year ago, 3 years ago, we.

don't know." The video was posted at. least a few months after Celeste is. reported missing. And in the video, you. see it's like a very long video of a. family gathering in someone's backyard. And then you see Celeste come into. frame, and at the very end, she's on her. phone. She says hi to the adults. briefly. She looks uncomfortable, and. then she glances at the camera filming. behind her. She looks very. uncomfortable. [music] The comments of. the original video have been turned off. However, other people have been. reposting it, and I mean, there's a lot. of comments. There are some people. debating whether or not Celeste lied to. David about her age, which I will say I.

agree with most comments of she looks. like a baby. I mean, I don't know why. people think that she could get away. with lying as being a college student. Some people have been making remarks. about her body type, her body figure. She literally looks like a baby. Like if. you look at her face, she looks like a. child. I don't know how else to put it. Other people have been agreeing with me, and they're commenting, "She literally. looks like a child if you look at her. face, so even if she ever lied about her.

age, look at her. She she's a baby. People are using the Cardi B meme cuz. they're like, "Just look at her. Like. she's a baby." Who are What are these. people saying that she lied about her. age and David is innocent. [music] And. another thing I will say side note, even. if she did lie about her age, as. mentioned before, there is a belief that. Celeste used multiple fake IDs to get. around and to go to parties. I think. it's one thing if you're at a party. where there's so many people around. Everyone has to be 18 and up to get in. I don't think I'd be looking and going, "I don't know if you're 18." Because.

there's so much happening, but I think. when you sit down and you get to know. someone, if they're lying and they're. saying that they're 19, but they're. actually 13, 14, I think within an hour, you're getting a little suspicious. >> Mhm. >> It's just the amount of development that. happens in those years. >> Mhm. >> It's not really something that you can. lie about easily. >> Mhm. >> So that's just to say, there might be. people who have met the real Celeste at. parties, at events, at gatherings, and I. don't think it's necessarily their fault. if they did not know that she was 13 or. 14. What I'm saying, if you're in an.

intimate setting with someone and you. see their face up close and you're. talking to them, having a conversation. with them, it's very clear when someone. is of a certain age. Other people are. commenting about that video, "How did. Celeste's family know that she was. around? This is after she's been. reported missing last year." One comment. is just focused on that and they're. saying it doesn't make any sense. Like. do her parents not care? Do her family. not care? There have been lots of people. very upset with Celeste's family about. not having better care for their child. There has been discourse that I don't.

think that I can necessarily get. involved with of how. different types of minority families. will often treat their daughters like. adults too early. So that's been a huge. discussion in certain communities and I. can see how that could be applicable. even in like an East Asian household. But then also there have been. conversations of her dad is back and. forth from Mexico that that not even in. the country most of the time. Her mother. does not speak English well, and they. are of a socioeconomic class where the. police don't really necessarily take. them.

seriously. Also, if her mom does not. speak English, perhaps she knew that. Celeste was dating someone named David. I also think that it's a very tricky. balance of trying to get your daughter. or your children to not do something by. telling them to not do something. It's like a it's very hard because you. could be pushing them to run away more. because you're being too restrictive. I'm sure I don't know. I'm not a parent, but I just imagine that there is a lot. of complicated things, and I don't know. if jumping to conclusions is the best. part, but I do think that there could. have been a lot done to help Celeste.

And I think we can probably place blame. more on most on the person who harmed. her, and then the police, and then as of. right now, nothing has come out of out. about the family as what we know. But there are people alleging that her. family was her out, that they were. receiving money from David, that her. sister specifically her out. That becomes a huge topic of. conversation because um. it's a comment on Reddit that started.

gaining a lot of traction. This is about. David after a body is found in his. trunk, but before the body is. identified. Okay, which side note, can I just do a. disclaimer? I will say I am one of the. first people to blame parents. I think. when you have children and you bring. another human being into this world, it. is your duty to protect them, and there. is there's really little room for air. when it comes to something as big as. like this, protecting them from people. like David. If they had known that David. is an adult, Celeste is a child. I get. it. I get where the anger can come from.

with the with people just upset with her. family, but I think the problem is. there's a lot of things that we don't. know that have not been confirmed, and. then the allegations are just growing. larger and larger. I think the initial. few days, the anger with Celeste's. family was more so, how could they let. her run away multiple times? How could. they know that she's dating someone. named David and do nothing about it? And. David's is an adult. Like, how do they. not know who her boyfriend is? And if. they knew that he's an adult, they. shouldn't let them date. There's. reasonable emotion there. But, I think. it's just ballooned into they're putting.

her out, they're selling her, they knew. and they didn't care because David's. rich, they did that they set it up. Like, there's so many allegations and I. think the problem with these allegations. is if this is a family who clearly is. not on the internet and they're getting. this influx of hatred all of a sudden, they might be more reluctant to talk to. the police and tell them everything. because they might get paranoid that. they did something legally wrong. They. did something criminally punishable. >> Mhm. >> of not protecting their daughter enough. And like, even if they did something. criminally punishable, they should be. able to tell the police so that they can.

>> Mhm. >> justice can be served there and it could. help serve justice for Celeste. So, I. think it's just it's a lot right now. Like, every everywhere I look the the. rhetoric is getting very intense and I. think a lot of it stems from this. comment. Not that anything is wrong with. this comment, but I think this is the. proof that netizens are using to kind of. funnel this narrative. Which, the day. after a body is found in David's trunk, before the body is identified, there is. a Reddit comment. This guy's a weirdo. A.

close friend's little sister from Lake. Elsinore ran away last year and this is. who she was with. We think her sister. was putting her out. She was in the. seventh grade at the time and LAPD swept. his place in the hills. I'm terrified. that's who's in the car. Nobody has. heard from her in months. I won't. release names as she's still a minor, but she was from Lake Elsinore. People. were actually initially upset with the. OP because this is before Celeste is. identified writing, "I strongly doubt. this is true. He's a very public social. media presence and there's no one.

underage in his road crew. I've only. heard good things about David from tour. and venue staff. Don't stuff post like. this with all the speculation going. around. You're going to just feed wild. witch hunts like this." To which OP. responds, "It isn't speculation. I It. literally happened. I don't really care. if you've heard nice things about him. That has no impact on my personal. negative experience." Well, the victim. has been identified as female, wavy. black hair, and a tattoo. Mean anything. to you? "I'm really not trying to. release any identifying information. because it absolutely sounds like her,

and my heart is broken. I don't want to. mess anything up regarding the. investigation, and I'm actually reaching. out to LAPD today.". >> Wow, this is Wow. >> Speaking of, another person who. allegedly David was following on. Instagram posted a comment. "Prayers to. her family. I used to be close friends. with David and we dated when I was 16. and he was 18. We've seen each other IRL. two times max, and there's so much more, but he introduced me to religion and. whatnot, so I'm shaken up by the fact. that he could have done this. I remember. a Celeste. I have a picture of them.

together I think I've seen in the past.". Then another clip of an interview. So, these are things that are going viral as. of recently after the last video that I. filmed. There is a video clip of David. playing Fortnite and the host asks him. questions. David, who do you want to. collaborate with? And David, as he's. playing Fortnite, he's saying, "You. know, I want to collaborate with a jazz. musician named Celeste." He says, "I. want to do something with Celeste. I. really want to do something with. Celeste.". >> Hm. >> And then he kind of Yeah, and then he. kind of zones out, and then he goes, "And uh maybe What's his name? Uh.

I got distracted for a second, my fault. Wait, uh Steven Sanchez, too.". >> Speaking of a jazz musician that I would. love to collab with, I want to do something with Celeste. >> Okay. >> I really want to do something with. Celeste. And uh. maybe. uh What's his name? I got distracted for a second, my fault. >> Wait, how how. >> Steven Sanchez, too. >> Okay. >> So, people are pointing to this video. and saying, "Is he getting distracted. because he's thinking about the real. Celeste?". >> Hm. >> Or is it Fortnite? >> So, there is a jazz.

>> There is. I looked into it, and she's. very talented. Much older, yes. But another element to this case is. Celeste's brother allegedly told someone. that Celeste would tell the family that. this David guy keeps promising to marry. her when she turns 18. So, he allegedly. says that. There is now a deleted. account on Discord that posted a picture. of themselves wearing an engagement ring. with the name David tattooed in red ink. on their finger and that is suspected of. being Celeste's account. That same. deleted user, remember, apparently. responded to a happy birthday post from.

September 7th, which is Celeste's. birthday. But now there's another picture. circulating of an Instagram account. named Hello Kitty Life Girl at a. restaurant. They story something. It's. at a restaurant and you see David. I. mean, it's David. He's waiting for food. He's on his phone and she just takes a. picture and it shows her hand and there. is a a ring on her left finger. >> What kind of ring? >> It's like a small diamond ring. >> Like an engagement ring looking ring? >> like an engagement ring. >> Huh. [snorts]. >> Yeah, it does.

>> So, like a single stone, right? Like I. got that. Okay. >> So, then people are speculating Okay, maybe this is Celeste's old Instagram. account. And people are saying if she. had the name David tattooed on her ring. finger, left ring finger, would that not. immediately be reported? Because she's. found in David's car, has a tattoo of. David on her hand. >> a D A V I D? >> D- yeah. >> Okay. >> Which would be his government name. >> Okay. >> So, it's David tattooed. So, then people. are saying why would that not be. immediately reported? Right when the. body is identified, it would be reported.

they have a sh- tattoo and a David. tattoo and happen to be found in the. trunk of a singer named David's car. Wouldn't that be the whole news argument. and news stations would go crazy with. it? But then this is adding to the. speculation that not all parts of. Celeste were found. So, people are. saying if you were to. do something to Celeste and you happen. to have the name David, you would not. keep the part that's tattooed David. Or. others are saying it's red ink, it could.

have easily been absorbed. So, I had a. red ink tattoo on my finger. It was gone. really quickly. So, people are saying maybe it didn't. show up. Maybe it wasn't around at the. time. Maybe she got it removed. Maybe. it's not her in these pictures. >> Or decomp? >> Yeah, or decomp. Like there's so many. different things. So, nothing can be. firm. Nothing can be said with. wholeheartedness. But that adds to the. theory that they were very serious. [music] Is this netizen theory? Not only. were they talking, but it seemed to be. that they're in a full-blown.

relationship. And this is important. because some people are saying, "Well, maybe David didn't know her age." And. some people might agree if maybe they. talked online for 2 months and then he. saw her once in real life and was like, "Whoa, you are not 19." But this is. showing a little bit more severity of. the relationship if all of these things. are true. Then another Tik Tok that's. been circulating is an old interview of. David where he's asked, "Where do you. see yourself in 5 years?". At that point it would Celeste would be. 18. >> Okay, so the plan is hopefully this. music thing takes off crazy next year.

>> Why is he saying Why Why are you saying. that like you're not like up there. again? >> Well, it's not I'm not there yet, but. hopefully it's like even crazier next. year. And then I go on crazy year after. year for the next 3 years. And then on. the fourth year I retire. And on the fifth year I'm off the grid, living somewhere like on an island with. this crazy crib. >> Mhm. >> No social media, no digital footprint. I'm just gone. >> I'm just gone. >> So, now people are wondering Celeste's. brother allegedly said David told. Celeste that they would get married when. she turns 18. Celeste was allegedly.

allegedly posting with a diamond ring on. her left finger. And then David starts. talking about how in 5 years, which is. when Celeste would be around 18, that he. wants to go off the grid, no social. media, no digital footprint. Is that a. promise that he allegedly made her is. what netizens are wondering? What does this all mean? A lot of the comments naturally are just. poking at the island comment though, asking, "Are you talking about Epstein's. island?" But again, all of this is just. online circumstantial. I don't even know. if you could call it evidence, just. connections being made. And of course,

we have to break down their alleged. relationship using subliminal messages. that have been interpreted from social. media posts and even his music. So, I'm. just going to run through a brief. timeline. This has just been compiled. This is a huge point of contention. David tweets, "When I was writing this, I got a notification from you as you. were talking about wanting to be with. your mom and your sister again. Take me. where I belong, but our circumstances. won't allow us to be in our ideal. situations. We got to push through it, bro. Fingers crossed emoji, black heart. emoji.". >> Wait, where is that this message from?

>> This is David's tweet. So, he's saying. like, "As I was writing this, I got a. notification from you and you said that. you want to be with your mom and your. sister." And a lot of people are. operating under the assumption that he. killed Celeste. So, people are saying, "Did he kill her because she wanted to. go back home for real this time?" Is. this something that he gets upset about? Then, April 13th, 2023, "Sleep Well" the. music video goes live on YouTube. The. love interest looks very much like. Celeste. And again, it could just. coincidences, but it's a lot of. coincidences. While promoting his new.

song "Sleep Well", he's reposting things. on TikTok like POV, "The friend you left. in season 2 shows up in season 5.". So, netizens are saying, "It does look. like if you go through David's music and. the stuff that he's posting and. reposting on TikTok, it looks like he. goes through relationship swings where. if it is with Celeste or maybe he's with. multiple different people, we don't. know, but it seems like he has moments. of like, 'Oh, my first Valentine's Day. with my girlfriend. When your girlfriend. won't post you, so I'll post myself.'. And then to just like reposting massive.

amounts of breakup TikToks.". >> Hmm. Okay. >> putting together the timeline and. they're saying, "The friend you left in. season 2 shows up in season 5." So, does. that mean Celeste is back in his life? Because there isn't a lot from 2022. between the two of them that people have. found connections in. And again, loosely. connections. Then another one where it's. This is a TikTok where it's a couple. joking about running back to their exes. while his song Sleep Well is playing in. the back. So people are saying, "Okay, during the Sleep Well period, maybe. Céleste is back in his life." Notable.

lyrics to the song that people think are. in reference to Céleste are, "I'm here. for you still, even if you don't think. that I'm near, I'll still be right next. to you, my dear. And the way you make me. feel has the power to make the whole. world stand still. Who's to say that our. love ain't real?" Again, people are. like, "Who's to say?" because they can't. be public and people are drawing. inferences to this lyric, "Don't be. scared, there's no such thing as fear.". Netizens think that this song is them. reconnecting in 2023. However, I will. say David says in an interview about the.

song, "It feels like the beginning of a. dream. The whole premise of the project. is a delusional relationship, like. you're in a delusion throughout the. whole thing. And there's elements of. Don't Forget About Me and like dreams, is this real?" The host explains, "I. mean, when you listen to the song, it's. almost like, and I mean this as a. compliment, there's a creepiness to it. You sleep well, I'm watching." David. says he wants to make sure that the. songs in his album make you transition. through this love-hate relationship, and. this one seems kind of like um like a. lullaby almost. And then there's another.

way that he's been promoting the song. There's one Tik Tok that he posts where. it shows him leaned up against a white. wall and a projector is displaying an. image behind him. And it's an image of a. girl. So it almost looks like they're. sitting together, like the ghost of her. is sitting there and he's sitting. against the wall. And the words are. popping up on the screen, it's the. lyrics to Sleep Well. It's very. creative, very symbolic, but a lot of. people are saying the girl looks like. Céleste. And it's just I'm here for you. still, even if you don't think I'm near, I'll still be right next to you, my. dear. And then at the very end, the.

projection image of the girl disappears. and fades away. The next month he promotes the song. Backstreet Girl, where he posts on Tik. Tok and the caption is, "Y'all are not. hearing me." And it's about it, well the. lyrics playing are, "Loving her way too. soon.". >> [music]. >> Again, people have a field day with that. one, but I don't want to wait too long. for someone to love you before I do. So, people are saying it's almost like he's. competing with the underage boys who are. trying to get in a relationship with an. underage girl, and he loves her way too. soon. That's like a whole crazy.

conversation that. is an assumption. Everyone's just making. assumptions. I'm just saying all of this. is alleged. We don't know anything for a. fact yet. But, people are really saying. this is kind of a crazy one. But, David says no, it's not. David does. an a previous interview. I remember I. was on Discord about [music] this song. It It's this unreleased song. It's. called Backstreet Girl. It might be on. the project, it might not be, I don't. know. So, this is before it's released. But, this guy was like, "Yo, can you. write a song for my girlfriend? Her. name's Ali. She's from the backstreet, like Ali in the backstreet." And I was.

like, "Say less." The next day I showed. him the song. He was like crying on the. mic. I'm like, "Yo, chill.". David states though that the only. information that he got from the Discord. guy is that his girlfriend's name is. Ali, and she is from the backstreet. And then. in another interview, he says that the. guy is trying to date someone named Ali. So, we don't know. But, he later says. that the guy from Discord DM'd him. saying, "Yo, forget the song. She. doesn't even deserve it." So, yeah, I don't know. We don't know what's. true or what's not true. We don't even. know if we can believe David's.

interviews, what he says, obviously. The. rest of the year 2023, David says that. he's never been in love and wrote all of. these love songs. But, he also posts on. September 7th on Celeste's 13th. birthday, "POV, you guys when you hear. the saddest songs I've ever made. tonight.". So, it seems like it's just weird. People are saying, "Is he trying to talk. to her through. TikToks?" And I think that's been. another conversation more so when we go. over his TikTok repost. Like when you're. 13, people like when I was 13, you're like.

trying to get the person you like to see. stuff online. So, people are saying the. way he's acting on TikTok is more so. trying to get the attention of a young. girl. >> Mhm. >> When you're like 19, 20, you're not. really doing that, especially if you're. getting attention. If you have lots of. followers, you're not really. sub-tweeting that much. >> Mhm. >> But he's constantly, it's not even just. during a breakup, it's like non-stop. Then another one that year with the. caption, "It's always the people you.

want to make the most proud that end up. disappointing you.". Then one TikTok of him is just in a. hotel room sitting on the edge of the. bed and the words are, "Does anyone know. any tips on how to not be the literal. worst person in the world?" Smelly face. Now, remember the picture where the girl. is covering her face with the blanket? >> Mhm. >> That's around this time. So, there are. speculations that by this point in 2023, they're [music] back together is the. speculation. Then in January 2024, he. starts posting teasers of his new song. that he's going to drop called Leave. Her. And it's like him singing, "I can't.

stop falling for her." And it's like a. TikTok he'll film of him fainting on the. ground and it's saying, "I can't stop. falling for her." And then another one. he says, "Yes, I'll swallow an AirTag so. you know my every move. I can't stop. falling for her." Meaning, when a girl. tells him, "Yes, David, I will swallow. an AirTag so you know my every move." He. can't stop falling for her. >> Huh, okay. >> Or another one that reads, "When she. does the bare minimum and it's the most. romantic thing I've ever experienced, I. can't stop falling for her." Another one. that reads, "When she sends you a.

paragraph of how much she loves you. while you're sad at work, I can't stop. falling for her." "When TikTok removes. all my music but at least I have a. Valentine's this year, I can't stop. falling for her." And then another one, he's doing a backflip and the words are, quote, "Babe, don't flip out but this. guy asked if" aka [music] he's doing a. backflip. Don't flip out. So, he's. saying like, a minute the girl says, "Babe, don't flip but this guy asked.". He's already flipping out. >> Mhm. Mhm. Okay.

>> Yeah. So, this is around the time that. Celeste is going missing. >> So, this is kind of people think he's. posting this because he's in the. relationship. >> Yeah, and he. >> These are the type of thing that you you. post when you're in a relationship. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> And people, you know, there is argument. of like, well, he's writing love songs, so technically he could just be. promoting a song. But then others are. saying these are like oddly specific. things. Just because you're writing a. love song, you don't want people to. swallow air tags. That's actually not PR.

advice to give as a celebrity. >> Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. I see. I see. I see. >> But then people are saying he's like an. edge lord. He's trying to be edgy and. fun. >> Got it. >> It's weird. Now, not nearly as relevant. to anything, but this is actually the. song that David was performing when he. failed his backflip and fell on his head. at Coachella. Yeah. But he's also posting a lot of. videos on TikTok around this time just. repping Hello Kitty as if he's trying to. get a brand deal. It's also around the. time that he posts card declines at. therapy, but they bring in the Hello. Kitty girl from 2021. >> Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. So, this is the heavy.

Hello Kitty phase. >> Heavy Hello Kitty phase. >> You said this is the time when Celeste. >> goes missing. >> goes missing. >> Early 2024. >> Huh. >> So, people are saying they probably met. in 2021. 2022 it seems like they didn't. have a lot of interactions from the. crazy connections that were forming. together on the internet. 2023 people. think this is the era where Celeste. comes back. He posted that season 2. comes back in season 5. Sleep well seems. like someone's coming back into his. life. There are all these little hints. people are forming. And then it seems.

like early 2024 they're like heavy in. some sort of relationship is what people. believe. >> Okay. >> Because all the Hello Kitty, all the. references to dating. people think that's what's going on. Now, before Celeste is officially. reported missing with the missing. child's poster, she was actually missing. before that too. So, she's run away. multiple times. Sometimes she is. reported, the police will bring her. back. I don't know if she's reported. every single time. I'm sure the police. are also looking into that. But February. 14th, it has been reported by those who.

know Celeste that she ran away on. Valentine's Day. This is before her original running. away. So, like she came back after this. So, she runs away and she is gone for. about a month before she comes back. And if that's the case, that means she. probably went home around mid-March. or the end of March. David posts a live. performance of his song, "My House Is. Not a Home", and the caption reads, "Imagine leaving everything behind for. someone that don't even want you.". >> Mhm. >> So, some people are saying, "Is he. referencing Celeste's parents? Like her. family? Like imagine leaving everything.

behind when your family doesn't even. want you?" Or is he saying, "That's what. I did. I left everything behind and you. still left me.". >> Say that one more time. Imagine leave. everything behind for someone who don't. even want you. >> Yes. So, is it, "Look at what you did. That's. so dumb." or is it, "Woe is me. I'm so. dumb.". Either way, people think it might have. to do with Celeste. >> Mhm. >> But by April, he posts an animated. picture of a girl sitting next to the. guy. and uh this looks like Celeste. So, it.

looks like uh the "Here With Me" music. video that also looks like Celeste. He. uses that graphic a lot. And it says, he captions it with his own. lyrics, "I don't care how long it takes. as long as I'm with you. I've got a. smile on my face." A few days later, Celeste runs away again. [music]. And this is when she's reported missing. And 2 weeks after that, David announces. on TikTok that he's finally going to. write happy songs again because his. depression has been cured. >> 2 weeks after that? >> Yes. >> Woah.

>> But that's a month. A lot has happening. So, David is saying his depression is. cured. But a few like weeks later, there. are alleged text messages between. Celeste and her friend. Her friend. allegedly released these. Again, these. are completely unconfirmed. But a friend. is asking her if she's okay, just making. sure she's alive. Celeste allegedly. responds, "I don't want to talk to. anyone. I'm safe." Her friend asks her, "Are you still going to talk to David or. go back with him because I don't want. you to get into any more trouble with. him." "No, I'm not." "Okay, I love you. I'll text you in about a week. Don't. delete Insta. Love you, too. I won't.

The two girls have a conversation about. whether or not. they bled the first time of intimate. relations. Allegedly, Celeste writes about how she. did not have her first intimate relation. with. >> [music]. >> David, but a guy named Gus. Gus is important later. But, she said she did not bleed because. Gus it it sounded like Gus R-worded her. But, I don't think she understood it was. R-word because she was saying like he. was getting mad and so I wasn't into it. Um but, that that's if this is true,

that that seems to be the feeling that. people are getting. But, she's saying that she only bled. with David. So, I don't know. It's a lot. I don't. know if this is real. Her She quickly texts her friend though, do not text back. He came back. He's. crying. Do not text me. So, that made a lot of netizens feel. that David saw her phone and maybe saw. what happened and realized that. she likely. maybe potentially, if this is even real, had intimate relations with somebody. else.

And maybe to her it didn't count because. it Honestly, the text message that she. allegedly sent with was quote, "With. Gus, I was just drunk and I did it. because he got mad at me the first time. for not having. relations with him.". I mean, that sounds like R-word. Cuz he's getting mad and she's drunk and. I don't know how old Gus is. She's. clearly not of age. And we don't even. know if this is real, but like it would. make sense that maybe she doesn't bring. it up because it's such a traumatic. traumatic experience that she hasn't. even internalized fully and she doesn't. even know what it means. I don't know,

but the fact that she's saying he came. back, he's crying, do not text me. People are saying it seems like David. saw those text messages, saw the text. message about Gus. Later, she responds, "I fixed I'm staying. Don't text. I. fixed him. I don't know how." And then. her friend is like, "What do you mean? What happened?" This is days later. And. she's like, "We both cried together and. he changed his mind. I'm happy he did. though.". And this is around the time that. afterwards, David starts posting some. crazy about girls. >> 2024 after this. >> Okay. >> So, netizens think that at this point.

David quote forgives her, which is an. insane thing if it's true considering. she's a child, she's a victim, and like. what did she need forgiveness for? If. anything, if all speculations are. correct, she is a victim of at least two. different people. But a few weeks later, David is. reposting TikToks, and it's a girl. filming herself with a song playing. That's not even David's song, so it's. not even him reposting it as promotion, but the words read, "Every guy's. personal hell is watching his girlfriend. defend another man to him.". >> Woah, that is very specific.

>> Yeah. Then in June of 2024, Celeste is. seen in that video that is posted of her. going to see her family. >> And this is after the missing post. >> Yeah. >> There's a video allegedly from a family. member that's Celeste going back into a. family gathering. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> I mean, people are reading. heavily into it. Uh, we'll we'll go into it deeper in a. second, but it it's a lot. Now, Celeste's family has been just dragged. Well, I guess I can go into it now.

They've just been dragged because of. this. Um, whether it's warranted or not. is subjective, but they're just saying. that they knew. They knew that she's. traveling around, they knew that she's. getting by without coming home. It's. definitely not from a 15-year-old boy. Like, you have to be dating an adult. Like, you cannot really survive out. there like that unless you're [music]. dating an adult. So, people are very upset about that. Some people are saying that her parents. were probably getting paid. Like, if. they were late on their rent, maybe. David would pay it, or maybe David was. paying them off, and so they didn't.

care. Some people one One comment read, this is actually crazy. Celeste's death should be blamed on her. parents just as much as David. They did. not protect her at all, and they're the. main reason that she died. Her parents. pissed me off the absolute most. Everyone should be ripping on it in on. her parents just as much as David or. even harder. No real parents would ever. just let their children do whatever they. want and end up dead like Celeste. The. parents should be in prison for life for. neglecting her. And David deserves. prison plus the death penalty. To which. someone comments back calling the. parents the main reason when somebody. literally killed her is such a crazy.

take. It is not equal no matter how hard. you try to play it that way. So people, I would say the general. population, they're upset with the family, but nowhere near as upset with the. family as whoever did this to Celeste. Meanwhile, 2 weeks later, he posts a. TikTok, June of 2024. What do you mean. you can't stalk her Twitter likes no. more? This is an update on X that was. made around that time where you cannot. stalk someone's Twitter likes. And so he's getting upset about it. It's just coming off very jealous, very.

possessive. And the next month he starts. teasing his song There Goes My Baby. And. he posts that he's in Dublin, he's. bored, he misses his girlfriend. So. there's lots of references to a. girlfriend around 2024. Valentine's Day, have my first Valentine's Day date, I. miss my girlfriend. And then another. TikTok photo with the caption, the. softest soft launch of all time. And. it's him in the car, someone's hand is. reaching out cupping his chin. But you. really only see her hand. Some people. say you can see a little bit of red hair. on the side, which Celeste would have. had that red curly hair at that time.

>> Do you see the red hair? >> Little bit. >> Mhm. >> But then some people are saying her skin. looks really pale. But I will say the inside of the elbow, like this arm is usually a little bit. different from. >> Lighting, lighting is always tricky. >> it's a very bright car. I think it's a. Tesla and it's very bright that day. It. looks And so people are like, "No, even. with the red hair, her skin tone is. different." So there is lots of debates. >> Yeah, color is very hard to tell color. >> It's It's very difficult. And then he's. also He has a Hello Kitty phone case.

>> Mhm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> From what I could tell, it does not. appear that the older Celeste has as. strong of a connection with Hello Kitty. Celeste went missing in Hello Kitty. Crocs. It seems like she does have a strong. liking for Hello Kitty. >> Yeah, that's crazy. >> Yeah. But this is the There Goes My Baby. phase. And the cover art looks, according to the internet, exactly like. Celeste. I'm actually going to show you. the cover art cuz I I think you would. >> Okay, so people are saying that looks. like her.

>> Okay, another thing is like people are. saying the older Celeste, we don't know. if her natural hair is curly, but a lot. of the times I actually see her with. like slick straight hair. >> Mhm. >> That That seems to be her preferred. hairstyle, whereas the Celeste, her very. natural, very wavy hair is in almost. every single photo, unless she's like. wearing a wig and it's always like a. bright blue wig, which we'll get into. that, too. There's a picture of her. wearing a bright blue wig with bangs, and then David is seen wearing that same. wig at an event. Okay, and netizens have.

gotten really crazy. Some people are. saying that there's no way that that's. the same wig because David has a really. large forehead. So like the way that. it's landing on his forehead, the way. that it lands on her forehead doesn't. make sense. So there's been lots of. debates, but it's just so many. coincidences. It looks like the same. blue wig. >> Mhm. And then wig like where it lands, also based on how you adjust it, isn't. it? >> Yeah. Like you can pull it down, you can. pull it up. >> Okay. >> But there is um this There Goes My Baby, the cover art looks, according to the. internet, exactly like Celeste. It's.

just you see the back of a girl with. very curly hair sitting down on a. really, really long, tall swing, like. the ones that hang over mountains for. those like Instagram pictures. But it's. very cinematic. She's swinging and you. just see the back of her. She's wearing. a dress and the mountains below her, potentially the Hollywood Hills. It just looks reminiscent of that and it. looks like fires are breaking out and. the sky is orangish-red. On Instagram, David writes, "There Goes My Baby, out. July 12th. This is a song I wrote about. letting go of someone you love and.

letting them become their own person, watching them become that person and. realizing that you may have been the. problem, but also being happy for the. person they become. I'm so excited for. you to hear it. And in one of the. videos, a TikToker goes up to an artist. and is like, "Hey, what are you. listening to right now?" You know, that's like that trend. And the artist. will promote their new song, that style. video. David is doing that for There. Goes My Baby. And as he's walking off, you see him holding a Hello Kitty phone. case. Relevant lyrics to the song read, "There goes my baby, out of my reach. Why won't you take me? It's so hard to.

breathe. Why did you leave? There goes. my baby, finally free. Why did you waste. all my time? You were bored and I was. alone. Feels like somebody's taking my. life. There goes my baby, out of my. reach." The song ends with the lyrics, "Real, is your love real? Darling, I've. lost my mind." Around that time, There. Goes My Baby comes out. He reposts a. TikTok that reads, "Me explaining that. according to psychology, when someone. knows they treated you wrong, they avoid. you. It's called a guilty conscience. They lack the maturity to apologize for. their disrespectful actions, and because.

they lack accountability, they simply. remove themselves from your life.". People think this is in reference to. Gus. Then from August to November, David is. very busy. He's just traveling. everywhere, mainly in Asia, Singapore, South Korea, Hong Kong, Japan. And by. December 2024, he releases Where Did It. Go Wrong? Notable lyrics include, "Where. did it go wrong with you? I don't belong. with you. It's tragedy. I really thought. you were meant for me. How could you lie. to me? Every kiss put a cavity between. my lips. I don't really want your love. no more. I swear cuz I don't need it.

And I don't mean to be conceited, but. I'm the reason you're still breathing. Is it love or lust? I can tell you're. feening. You told me I was special, girl, but that does not mean anything to. me." And near the end of the song, you. hear a girl's voice. Like, you know how. Drake used to do that thing where he. like inserts voicemails? I don't know if. he was the one that did it. I don't. know. I just remember there's lots of. songs where it's like voicemails and. you're like, "I miss you. Where are. you?" Well, near the end, you just hear. a girl's voice saying, "You're special, David." And he writes, "Making a song.

for Arcane," which was a previous. collaboration he did, inspired me to. make my most heartbreaking song yet. David says about the music video, quote, I get the shot at the end and I'm like, you know, I die. And then this trailer. comes out and then you see the bullet. hole in my chest and I get carried away. by cult members and like, you know, it's. just like a thing. >> What? >> So he's just saying like this is the. darkest song and that it's, you know, it. still connects to how everyone is. connected by the invisible string. theory. He says, I love that theory that. everybody's connected. And so it even.

traces back into all the music videos. Now, by the end of the year he's. building Hello Kitty skateboards. He's. singing to his Hello Kitty plushies. So he's like, oh, singing to my Hello. Kitty plushies because they're the only. ones that don't pressure me to release. new music. >> Mhm. >> But then February of this year, he. complains on TikTok about how he doesn't. have a Valentine. So this is 2025. And. then he drops the song One More Dance. This is the one where he's like put into. the back of the car, you know, it's. Tommy, his alter ego. It put pits David.

back into the trunk of the car and. they're going to bury him and he's. talking about that video. And then after. that in March he drops What Are You. Waiting For, which is like his summer. song release. Notable lyrics read, What. Are You Waiting For cuz I've been. standing here. It's never been so clear. I've fallen in love but that's not. enough. I don't ever want to mess it up. We're running out of luck. Tell me to. stay, you're wasting my time. Every day. I'm waiting in line, standing in place. cuz baby that's all I know. Why do you. wait? Just tell me. But people think. maybe this song is a reflection of his. personal life. Like What Are You Waiting. For? He's basically saying like why do.

you keep leaving? Some people think it's. like around this time maybe Celeste left. again. And then he's like, I'm just. waiting for you but you're not doing. that for me. Which again is like a crazy. way to look at the situation if the. situation is what we think it is. Netizens also spot a black Louis Vuitton. bag on his couch around that time when. he is filming a TikTok. That is the same. purse that was covering allegedly. Celeste's face in a selfie that they. took together, remember? So maybe people are saying this points. to he back with Celeste. Celeste is. still alive. We don't know. Then David.

goes to Coachella, falls on his head, and then he releases his Withered album. and does a bunch of press for it. Pretty. quickly, Withered is number 13 on the. Billboard 200 album charts, already has. half a billion streams on Spotify, and. side note, he does mention that you need. to listen to his music in order on the. album because it shares his entire. story. So, that's exactly what we're. going to do because people think. Withered has everything to do with. Celeste. His other songs, people are. saying, "Well, that was in 2022. That. was in 2023. We don't know." People. think Withered is about Celeste. So, he.

says he tries to write the album in the. United States, but he can't he can't do. it. So, then he goes to London because. he loves the gloominess. He and his. three friends made [music] a song a day. for 2 weeks. He says, "I documented the. whole process on camera just to see my. creative process and, you know, without. people around me and then with people. around me." And that's another thing, a. lot of netizens think that's why the. police are taking so long because. >> [music]. >> he's documenting so much stuff. Maybe. the police are also combing through. things like that. He says, "This is my. first album. It's all me." [music].

Cuz previously, it was EPs. So, this is like his first, I guess, fully fledged album. I'm not sure how it. works, but he's saying, "This is my very. first album. It's me. All these. experiences, it's all about love, bro. Yeah, like the past 2 years, my own. relationships, my own hardships, everything is super authentic and super. raw and super me this time.". >> So, this is the first time he came out. and say, "These songs are my story from. my experiences. It's raw. It's. everything is from my past 2 years.". >> Yeah. I mean, could that be marketing? I. don't know. >> Right, right, right. But even before, he.

say it wasn't sometimes he say it's not. my story. >> I've never been in love, I've never. experienced heartbreak. I would go on. Discord, I'd chat with people on. Fortnite. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> I have been itching to announce a very. special project with Shopify. And if. you're already an avid listener, you may. already know that we've been dropping a. lot of hints. I know it's so annoying. I. can't tell you guys yet. You'll just. have to see what's in store for you. guys. And in the meantime, I know many. of you guys have started your own.

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month trial and start selling today at. shopify.com/rotten. Go to shopify.com/rotten. shopify.com/rotten. >> [music]. >> He said, "You know, the kind of core. visual identity for this project is. roses and this string, the red string. As I said before, I view myself as this. rose, very beautiful but can stab you, can hurt you with the thorns. And with. the withering process, withered, it's. It's kind of like the decay and the.

withering away and the ending of the. life cycle of this rose, kind of. signifying the end of an era. Not a. debut introduction to David, it's a. continuation and almost a goodbye to. David in a way. There's going to be a. lot of insight and a lot of explanation. and context to these songs that I'm. going to drop in the album that, you. know, it's going to contextualize the. entire project and give you insight to. my brain and what I was thinking when I. was writing these songs and things like. that. So, it's going to be exciting. Songs include Atomic Land. Debated.

lyrics include, "There's something about. you that I don't understand. If my arms. were around you, would you love me. again? Love was never this dangerous. This is Atomic Land.". But, also the lines, "Oh, we could be. imaginary, but you're real to me.". People suspect this is about the. allegation that he hit Celeste. So, it's. almost like their relationship is. imaginary, but he's like, "No, but. you're real to me." is what netizens. have taken it as. He continues, "You're my guardian angel, but you act like a demon. You don't. believe in the afterlife, but babe, just. know I've seen it.".

Then Sky, a song he says he wrote. because he was inspired by Chicken. Little. >> What? >> Which there's not really it's just. talking about the sky is falling down, which is very Chicken Little Chicken. Little coded. So, there's not really too. many notable lyrics from that one. And. then the song You Left Me First. Notable. lyrics include, "You left me at my best. I loved you at your worst. How ironic is. that when you left me first? [music] It. never makes sense to me falling deeper. into jealousy cuz I can't help the. thought of you with someone else. I know. the truth.".

So, people think this is about Gus. And there's a girl's voice at the end. like a voicemail that says, >> Sorry. >> People are saying, "Okay, this is. We don't know what Celeste sounds like. We don't know.". >> But, the family does, right? >> Yes, the family does. But, remember that. clip of her in the live stream,

allegedly her in the live stream where. she says, "Is it controversial of you or. wearing kids, right?". >> Mhm. >> I media trained you. >> No, you didn't. >> That's controversial. >> It's controversial of kids? >> NO, I MEDIA. >> IT'S BEEN A GOOD IT'S BEEN A GOOD ONE. BYE. >> BYE, GUYS. >> MWAH. MWAH. MWAH. Delete Delete. everything. Everything goes. Everything. goes. Everything. >> That people have taken that and they. say, "If this is Celeste, let's. reference the voice in his songs." And. all they do is pitch it up a little.

Because the voice in the song sounds. very deep. Controversial of kids. >> Bye. >> Now, there have been more debates about. it because some people are saying, "Actually, the voice in the music. videos, and even the girl in the. livestream, almost have like a New York. accent, and he's originally from New. York. He moved to Houston when he was. 13." He did say in an interview that his. very first girlfriend was from New York. So, is this a New Yorker that he was.

dating and not Celeste? Is this somebody. else? But then other people are saying, "Well, it's kind of People are saying, well, actually, a lot of people in like the. Latino community, they have accents that. don't sound like LA. I think people were. expecting like an LA valley girl accent. because she's from around Los Angeles.". >> Mhm. Okay. >> And like who's to say because you know, LA is not valley girl. That's not even. who came to LA. You get what I'm saying. I'm trying to say. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> That might not even be the like the. native accent of Los Angeles. It's just.

become the popularized one is the valley. girl accent. >> Mhm. >> So, that's been a whole debate. But then. there's the song Say It Back. I can't. let you go because I love you like I'm. supposed to, but you don't say it back. You never say it back. So, now I hate. you and I hope it breaks you. I won't. take it back. People think he's. obsessed, but David claims on the Zach. Sang Show, "It's like me talking to. myself, and I'm not reciprocating and. how I feel about my own feelings and. understanding myself." So, basically, I'm not reciprocating self-love to. myself. Then he has Friend Again. Alarming.

lyrics include, "I want to settle down. when I get older. I'm looking over. shoulders.". People are saying, "Is this about the. paranoia of dating a minor, allegedly? I want to fall in love. I used to be her. everything, and now she doesn't answer. me. I didn't ask for anything. I only. want her next to me. Love me, hate me, whatever your feelings, nothing changes. I don't want to be your friend again. Good thing we're older now, but I still. want her. She's got someone better, and. I've got jealousy. Top comments read, "Oh my god, she.

probably said she wanted to be friends, and then he killed her.". Then there's the song Somewhere in the. Middle. Lyrics include, "It's you doing. things you're not supposed to do. You. don't think that I would know the truth, but every day I see the way you move, and it's not like you. I want to think. you love me, but you never say the word. I gave you what you wanted, and I got. nothing in return. I don't love you. I. don't hate you. I'm somewhere in the. middle. I'm losing it a little somewhere. in the middle. I just bought a hammer. I'm trying to fix you. But where are my. manners? I might have a screw loose. Everything you say to me somehow turns. me off. You told me it's okay to feel.

happy when you're gone. Getting over you. is such an obstacle." Again, more. speculation. One that is in common. reads, "It's sad to think he felt this. way, not only about her, but like a. child, a young girl trying to escape his. madness. He wanted to manipulate her and. make her believe that no matter what, they were meant to be. I feel so bad for. her, and I can't even begin to imagine. what went through. everything up until her tragic death.". Then there's Crashing with Kali Uchis, which has now been taken down on. YouTube. Notable lyrics include, "I know. you've been going through it, but baby,

I've been going through it all alone. It. all comes crashing down. I'll be holding. on to you." Dating says, "Even though. it's a collaboration song, he wrote most. of his lyrics." So he wrote all of his. lyrics, and then Kali Uchis actually. just sent her verse. He was like, "Hey, do you like this. song? You want to hop on a verse?" And. then she sent it back, and he uploaded. the process of making the song in a. closet all onto YouTube. And he said. that he was trying to tap into the state. when he was making Romantic Homicide. He. says, "So with this song, you know, I'm. writing about falling in a relationship. that's crashing, and everything feels.

like it's crumbling down on you. And in. the first verse, "Baby, baby, I've been. asleep for way too long." He says it's. again basically like a lullaby. >> I love the feeling of like songs that. sound like nursery rhymes because it's. like the Itsy Bitsy spider going to na. na na na. It feels nostalgic in a way. So, that first verse was perfect fit for. me. >> David says the music video for Crashing, where they're just covered with red. strings, is supposed to be like limbo. Everyone's in purgatory, afterlife kind. of thing. He said that's why there's so. many red strings. Kali Uchis has put out a statement, "Not. my friend. I did a song with him, which.

is currently in the process of being. taken down given today's disturbing. news.". I will say I think that people have been. a little bit better. cuz a lot of celebrities have. collaborated with David. And usually, I. mean, it's weird. Some celebrities are. getting better treatment of like, "I. feel so bad for them. This must be. traumatizing news." And then some people. are going on, for example, Kali Uchis'. Instagram being like, "Talk about your. friend David." She had to literally be. like, "Not my friend." And like, this is. Hollywood. They're not all best friends. just because they put out a song. together.

>> Mhm. >> So, it's been weird. It's been very. strange. A lot of live streamers have. been under fire because again, David was. technically a live streamer, which side. note, lots of stuff happening in the. live stream world. Apparently, one of. the live streamers, I don't know any of. them in like the FaZe Clan group. I'm so. sorry. I'm not sorry. But one of them is like. live streaming and he's saying he's. talking about the David situation. And. David was allegedly pretty frequently. hanging out with the FaZe group. Jason. DeRulo is signed by FaZe. I don't know. how it works, but they're all like they. live in the same house. He's live.

streaming and he sees David hopped on. his live. >> David was in the viewer list on my. stream and he just unfollowed me on. Twitch. >> That is crazy. >> Yeah. And I'm not saying I don't know. these people because they're like small. people. They're massive streamers. I'm. just not I I'm not their target. demographic, I guess, right? I'm not. familiar. But um yeah. >> Yeah. Wow. >> So, he's. >> I mean, he he is. out right now. I mean, he he is he is. most likely on the internet, right? He.

wouldn't be like all these times he. wouldn't just be off internet and and. not talking to anyone. >> Essentially someone who seems like he's. chronically online. >> yeah. >> I don't think he's not online. >> Yeah, wow. >> But the most contentious drop in the. album now is the invisible string theory. interlude where you hear a conversation. It's a not a song. It's an interlude, so. it's just a conversation with a bunch of. echo added into it, so it sounds like. very artistic. Some people think that.

it's Celeste. And they believe that it's. pitched down to make her sound older. But it's got that very edgy conversation. between two people vibe. And the. conversation goes with the girl saying, "So, I got a question." And David says, "What's the question?" "Um why don't you. hold my hand anymore?". "Oh, here we go again." But "No, I'm so. serious, bro. I'm so serious. Like All. right, all right, continue, continue. I. haven't held your hand in like" And.

David starts giggling. "Dude, shut up.". "Sorry. Like you're not funny. I swear. you're not funny. My fault, my fault. I'm done, I'm done, I'm done.". "All right, let me think. Bro, I'm about. to set a timer." So, it's like a quick. conversation. The girl is like, "Stop. laughing. I'm so serious. Like you. haven't held my hand in forever." And. then he's like, "Okay, you're right, you're right. I'm done, I'm done. Like. let me" And then she's like, "Okay, let. me think when the last time you held my. hand was." Basically. And he's like, "Bro, let me set a timer." And she says, "Oh, it could It could have been. yesterday. It could have been yesterday. Wow. Yeah, I'm glad that you remember.

that. Glad that" You know, so he's. saying like, "Okay, so it was. yesterday." And she said, "Period. Thank. you." "Ew, I hate when you say period, bro." So, he's saying to the girl, "I. hate when you say period, bro.". >> [music]. >> And then he says, "I got a question for. you now.". The girl responds, "Okay." "When do you. think we met?". >> Do you think these this conversation is. rehearsed or is it like a actual clip of. their conversation you think? >> It sounds like a real clip. >> Okay.

>> Or it could be a recreated clip. Or I. think sometimes maybe they cut out like. the pauses because it's very whippy. It's very fast. >> Okay. >> Why do you think you met? >> What I think. >> Okay. >> personally. >> Mhm. >> I Have you ever heard of the invisible. strength theory? It's controversial of. raping kids. >> Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. >> Exactly that. So so basically. we met because we were supposed to meet. >> Those are three things. >> We need to delete this. >> Okay.

>> And we're connected because we're. supposed to be connected. It's kind of. like that um I love you before I existed. and I love you even when I die. >> Oh, look it. Answer that one. That's so. mean if you don't answer that. >> That is ins believe that this is Solange. with her voice pitched down and some. people even say when you listen to the. conversation. it definitely sounds like a younger. girl. Not the voice, just the way that you. know they're talking about the invisible. string theory. >> Mhm. >> It's like you know when you're young and. you fall in love and you have this very.

romanticized version of it. Not that I don't believe in the. invisible string theory, but it's I. think the way that it's presented some. people are pointing out. It just sounds. like a much younger person. Just the the choice of words, the way. that it's put together. Zack Sang asks David about it not. because he thinks it's Solange. This is. way before. But during an interview he. says, you know, at the end of the. interlude, correct me if I'm wrong, but. she says I love you. You don't respond. She says I love you again or repeats. herself and you don't respond. Like was.

that done on purpose? Absolutely because the next song after. that is is this really love. But David. says. >> Because that was a real conversation. that happened. And the irony of it was. that person that was saying I love you, I love you, she's not in my life. anymore. So it was like people say that. the string can't be cut and the. connection cannot be severed, but I feel. like it can sometimes, and that's why I. wanted to put, you know, afterlife and. all these songs that feel like endings. and. conclusions. and goodbyes on the project [music] to.

kind of solidify that message of this is. the end of something, not the beginning. >> In a separate interview, he says, "Oh. yeah, so there's an extra layer that I. added throughout the album where you. hear little voice bits and things like. that.". >> Like little voice bites and things like. that. I cannot disclose who the voice is. because copyright. >> But just sound bites and things to add. an extra layer of authenticity and. storytelling to the project, and there's. an interlude as well. >> Mhm. So, he's saying these are not like voice. actor. >> Yeah. But like I don't know why he can't. disclose because of copyright, because.

if it's because of copyright, if that's. your voice and you hear it on a. commercial song, you'd be like, "Hey, give me my Give me my money, right?" So, then the person that would get you for. copyright could still hear it. >> Yeah. >> And then also, just because a voice is. on your song, I don't think anyone else. is going to go to that person and say, "I want you on my song.". >> Yeah, copyright is a weird thing to say. >> Yeah, that was a weird I was I was like, "What is copyright?" And I was very. confused by that. >> you can still say that is my voice.

>> Yeah. >> Just because you don't disclose who is. the person, they can still say that's my. voice. So, I Yes, copyright, that's my. voice. >> Yeah. >> So, the copyright law, you're right. >> Yeah, that is a weird excuse. >> It's so weird. It's And he could have. just said, even if he had paid the. copyright, if he just said like, "It's. an ex of mine or a fling of mine or this. relationship I had that was rough.". >> Yeah. >> But like I can't disclose who cuz of the. copyright. I was I thought that was. weird. David tells Zack saying, "But.

once the fans hear the interlude and you. hear the project, it all kind of. connects and it's going to kind of click. to everyone at the same time, and I'm. just so excited to see what that kind of. looks like in real time." Well, it's. clicking, and I don't think this is what. he was excited for cuz it's clicking. He. also in an interview that he's doing in. New York City, David says, "My first. girlfriend I actually met in New York, which is actually crazy that we're. here.". >> But is is Celeste from New York? >> No, so that's why people are like, "Wait, is the girl that's in the music. video, is she a New Yorker?". So, I don't know. I can't tell. There's.

so many debates. The next track is is it. really love? The lyrics are, "Is this. really love if you don't say the word. anymore? I know it was fake to you, but. it was real to me. Tried the same for. you, but you changed on me. Hating you. ain't enough. I just want my bluff I. want to get back my love. You got. somebody else to take my place and did. it wrong way after all I did for you.". >> [music]. >> Side note, the music video is of David. laying on his bed singing and on a small. TV you have previous music videos that. are playing. There's one predominantly.

displayed here with me with the person. that looks like Celeste. >> Mhm. >> Then you have the last two songs on the. album, Ghost and Afterlife. Ghost. notable lyrics read, "Why don't you love. me? Oh, heaven or hell, we will meet. Lucky me just to have met. Torture me, torture me, torture me. I can't forget. He might have you, but I've got your. ghost and we both know that's the real. you and God knows it's true. I love you. the most, but we both know what I have. to do. Eyes looking right through me. Why? Why can't I hear your heartbeat?

Just a dream, just a dream, just a. dream. Don't wake me up. Make-believe. fantasy. Dance with me under the moon. above. She's so happy when she's with. me. Leave me in this dream. Don't be. nasty. Let us keep this perfect memory.". Nettisons are saying this whole song. sounds like him allegedly killing her. "Eyes looking right through me. Why. can't I hear your heartbeat? I've got. your ghost. We both know that's the real. you." Side note, I did leave out a few. songs because it's in the previous. episode, so just go watch that. But the. last song is Afterlife.

Notable lyrics read, "Something's. missing from inside of me. Someone stole. what wasn't mine. The devil told me you. were good for me. My mother told me he. would lie. What doesn't kill you waits. for later. What tries to keep you alive. fails. I thought a girl would make me. happy. Real love is not for sale. And when I die, I'll love you from the. afterlife. He says the last song on the project, Afterlife, quote, "It's kind of that big. moment of the caring of the casket kind. of thing." Zack Sang is asking him, "So,

at what stage of Withered is dying? So, you're going to going into dust, but. you're coming back again. Is that what. I'm getting through these 14 records?". "It's definitely a resurrection type of. thing, but by the end of the project, it's done. So, that's why the last track. is called Afterlife. That's the final. blow.". "It's a whole different layer of depth. of an album. I feel like especially for. me when I'm having dialogue now and. things that add to the story. I'm. talking about the invisible string. theory. I really want the listeners to. feel like they're reading a book almost. and they get into a different chapter.

with every song, but there's also kind. of this pause where they can take very. every song in and by itself and then. have this kind of visual landscape in. this interlude to kind of be in my head, in my mindset and why I wrote this. project like this and how everything. just went just to keep them even more. interested and connected throughout the. project. Which I will say listeners are. more interested and more connected than. any project I've ever seen. In one of. those like, "Hey, what do you do for a. living?" He talks about his Withered. album and he says,

>> My first project, my first fully like. fleshed out project, it kind of. encapsulates my whole life. I'm excited. to see what my fans think about it and. how like they relate to it on a personal. level. >> Which by the way, Afterlife people have. been um. Oof, okay. There is this performance, his live performance in Houston where he. sings Afterlife. He's [snorts]. breaking down sobbing on stage. People. >> was this Houston performance? >> Like a few months ago. >> Huh. >> It was recent and he's breaking down.

>> [music]. >> And people thought initially. it's because it's in Houston. That's, you know, his hometown where his. music career started. Well, his hometown. is New York Queens, but he moved to. Houston. That's where his music career. started. So, people are like, "Whoa, is. this his I made it moment?" Cuz people. love the when musicians look out on. stage or they start sobbing on stage. like, "I made it. I didn't finally made. it, right?". But people are saying now it's a little. weird. >> Yeah. >> It's a little weird. And like maybe it's. not just being in Houston like maybe.

Houston there's so many emotional ties. and then this song and then what's I. don't know. People are saying it could. be a mixture of everything. It could. just be Houston. It could be just the. song. It could be a mixture of. everything. Who's to say? He also says this album is like the. closing of a chapter especially for my. main fans, which adds to everyone's. theory of like he planned it. He knew. that he was going to get caught. Or like maybe he didn't plan that he was. going to get caught, but he knew he was. going to get caught cuz you don't really.

just get away with something. That's what some people are theorizing. But also I don't know because he's also. telling Zack Sang that there's more. There's going to be like an extension of. Withered. There's a deluxe Withered and. he's writing more messages and there's. just so much that he's excited about. But he does say Withered is a send-off. I view myself as this rose as very. beautiful and has these thorns that can. stab you and my music can stab you and. then, you know, it dies and turns to. dust. In his promotion for Withered, this picture goes viral. It's an.

Instagram picture of David taking a. selfie with a bunch of white shirts. covered in blood and red paint and on. Yeah, on top of black tarp and the. caption is limited edition etomie. Withered cover vinyl out now plus custom. bloody shirts made by me. Tongue out. emoji, rose petal falling emoji. The bloody shirt merch has since been. pulled from his website, which makes. sense. It was selling for $35 if you're. curious. And additionally, there have. been lots of stories coming out of fans, former fans, who are now traumatized. because one guy was like, "I literally. showed up to his concert in my own red.

paint shirt." Meanwhile, he had someone. dead in his trunk, and like he just. feels a guilty conscience about it now. And everything about it just feels. really ick, and like it's I'm not saying. that they have no right to be. traumatized. I'm not saying that they. are so traumatized, right? But it's. definitely um. it's definitely like a ripple effect. I. don't want to compare his trauma to like. what the victim's family would be going. through, but it's it's weird. It's. definitely weird. >> Yeah. >> So, he's just saying it's not a great. feeling. Then, July 9th, 2025, David.

collaborates with Jason DeRulo for. Summer Uptown. And in this music video, people have been saying there's a girl. that looks like the young Celeste in the. background, like an extra. But. interestingly enough, um okay, so this. video was posted by Jason DeRulo. He did. take it down. And so, it does seem like. if a lot of artists have control over. their content, they're trying to get it. taken down. Like Kali Uchis was in the. process of taking the music video down. But a lot of David's music videos are. still up because it's just on his. channel. >> Mhm. >> So, I don't think he cares if anyone.

else wants it taken down, even if. they're in it, right? I don't think at. this point he cares. So, Jason DeRulo, I'm sure out of respect for everything, has taken down the music video. I do. want to give him like. a quick little Okay, so I know that with. Jason DeRulo, there was a clip that was. going viral of him defending David and. saying that David didn't do it. And that. I will say a lot of people were bringing. up um that was before they identified. who was in the car. >> He didn't kill anybody, bro. He didn't. kill anybody. There's no way. There's no.

way. He's been on tour. >> So, this is after the body was found, and I think that. I think maybe he felt very passionate to. defend someone that he's known for a. little bit of time. Not friendly. It. seems like every part of their. interactions has been work related. It's. been live streamed. It's been. collaborating on music. Even when I. watched their 3-hour live stream where. they created the song Summer Uptown. Yeah. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, yeah. Okay. I watched the 3-hour. live stream. Um they didn't particularly strike me as. close friends. They strike me as like.

two streamers connecting or like two. people connecting. And Jason Derulo. clearly wants to get into music. David. was a streamer, so it it made a good. match on paper. So, I will say it did. not I think that maybe he. spoke too soon and maybe spoke a little. too casually. >> Yeah. >> But I don't think he meant any ill. intentions, but there has just been lots. of conversation there. But that video. has been taken down. Now, I do want to. say there are lots of reposts because. people are like doing the reacting to. videos. This is before everything that.

happened. A lot of streamers were like. reacting to Jason Derulo song with. David. So, there is a lot. Um. it's unclear if that's Celeste. And even. if that is Celeste, what I'm trying to. say is I don't think that Jason Derulo. would have known because he has also. stated outright that the Celeste that he. met was the older Celeste. And there is. a live stream clip of him shaking. someone's hand and she says, "Oh, I'm. Celeste.". >> Mhm. >> And she looks like the older Celeste. Like her hair is slicked back. It's not.

like wavy hair. It she looks like the. other Celeste. >> Mhm. >> So, I'm inclined to believe all of that. to be true. So, just putting that out there cuz yeah. But in the Genius interview between. David and Jason Derulo, which is still. up, David sings, "Never want to lose. you. When you come around, all I say is. hallelujah. Put you on a pedestal, the. highest in the room. I got every eye on. you." David explains those lyrics as, "It's like when you're in love and on. deep level, you kind of start to idolize. this person. And it's like my love. language, you know, acts of service and.

words of affirmation. So, I like hearing. things and being told that I'm doing a. good job of what I'm doing. So, I like. that the person I'm in love with is the. only person in the world. There's only. two of us on the planet Earth.". People think that is very alarming. because to put a little 13-year-old on a. pedestal, if that is who he is talking. about. To put anyone on a pedestal can only. result in bad things. And then around. this time, he starts posting very. melodramatic Tik Toks with words that. read, this these are reposts. So, if you.

go into his reposts, which he's has. since started deleting, apparently. But, um one of them reads, I'm tired. I don't. want to do anything. I don't want to go. anywhere. I don't want to be around. anyone. I don't want to be seen. I don't. want to be me anymore. Did I really. deserve that? I'm not sure who I am. anymore. What happened to me? I'm not. who I used to be. I can't describe this. feeling. Is this even real? Every day I. feel less and less like myself. Which like. could be lyrics to a song, could just be. like a lot. Another repost soon reads. after that, sitting there realizing I'm. a really bad person sometimes, even. though I genuinely love with all my.

heart. There's a really bad part of me. that ruins everything. And just slideshows of angsty Tik Tok. reposts, rapid fire, okay? These are. just a lot of his reposts are songs that. a lot of them aren't even his songs. And. then, you know, those slideshows and. they're just like words on top. >> When was this all dumped, like posted? >> Around like June of 2025. >> Okay, three three months ago, okay. >> So, there's like a lot There's some from. like. his reposts are a mess. And then, also, it's hard cuz I had to go into the.

comments because the Tik Tok is posted. on a date, but then the day that he. reposts them is different. >> Mhm. >> Does that make sense? Because So, then. you have to look for comments at that. time where people say, "Oh my god, David. reposted." Heart emoji. And then I I'll. try to go off that date. So, it's. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see. >> But, um rapid fire, they read things. like, the saddest part of life is when. the person who gave you the best. memories becomes a memory. POV, you are reading through old text. messages with her. POV, me watching my. younger self fall in love with her. He. doesn't know she's going to ruin him.

POV, me staring at myself in the mirror. with the most hatred towards myself. And. then another one of someone sad, how I. be walking home after another day of. faking my entire personality and. pretending to be happy. >> [music]. >> And then also around this time he posts. a lot of. he has a David Prayers Tik Tok account. where he posted a lot of Tik Toks of. just him reading the Bible. and verses. Yeah, I mean to be fair. David did grow up in a super religious. household so it appears that he has been. immersed in faith for a long time but. some people say it starts picking up a.

little bit more around certain times. So I don't know. I don't want to read. too much into it. but it it could be it could be. He also. has another account with another. musician Bryant Barnes it's where the. hoes at. >> Uh-huh. >> Hoes as in hoes and it's just like them. posting while they're traveling and it's. mainly it's like meme accounts. Like stuff like where are my hoes at and. then all the comments are like the hoes. are 13.

It's crazy. So. that one is. there's a lot going on everywhere. Now. if you take everything at face value. friends of Celeste have come forward to. say that the last time that they heard. from her was around July or early August. of this year. August 5th of 2025 David's. USA leg of the tour begins in. California. There's a video circulating. and if you open up the comment section. from August 24th 2025 this video is from. August 24th. People are saying that this. is Celeste. David is on the stage and on. a balcony overlooking the stage you see.

what appears to be maybe David's little. brother and a girl with wavy hair. wearing a tube top. Now this is a black. tube top. Celeste was found in the car. in a tube top but tube tops are common I. don't know right? But [music]. but people are saying that looks like. Celeste. August 24th 2025 at his performance in. Maryland. Maryland is also very. important. There's conversations about. whether this is going to be a state case. or a fed case. I don't think it really.

matters to most people but just to give. you an idea some people actually think. it's going to take even longer because. it might be a fed case. If this is her, if she traveled to Maryland, it would be. a federal case because you're talking. trafficking across state lines, she's a. minor, and now she's dead. Like that. would be a fed case. If it's a state. case, which seems like if it's a. I don't want to say regular, but if it's. if it is a homicide, most likely it will. be a state case. If she was traveling.

alone with him, that could be a. trafficking case, which would be a. federal case. This is very complicated, which by the. way, some people are saying that he's. going to be arrested sometime soon. I'm. also in LA right now. We're literally in. the Hollywood Hills right now for. something unrelated, a different case, but. if he happens to be arrested, if there. happens to be an arraignment, I will try. to be there, but I don't think so. because the authorities have even said. it might take weeks to months. >> Mhm. >> for an arrest to be. >> for them to say weeks or months. There must be a lot going on.

>> I have been talking to some members of. press and even with the arm team and. we've been discussing it. And it just seems like. if it's a state case, there's a lot of information. So, either things are not what we think. it is, which could be a chance, but if. it is what we think it is, perhaps there's other people involved. Perhaps there's other people involved. after the fact that knew about a body. and they did not say anything. So, that. could make it trickier and that's why it. might take much longer. And then the.

police might not want to tip off. They could have easy surveillance on. David to make sure he doesn't flee, but. they don't want to tip off anyone in his. circle to think that they're looking. into a bigger situation or they're. monitoring people to see how they're. acting right now to see what's going on. It could be that, it could be multiple. people involved. It could be even deeper. that we're looking at not just homicide. charges, murder charges. It could be. that the story is something completely. from what the internet is saying. It could be any of that. Or it could be.

that maybe the feds are eventually going. to get involved. However, I do think. that even if he is arrested, he will be. arraigned in state court and then the. feds will probably indict him much later. on cuz they like to take their time a. lot. >> Mhm. >> But they could be looking at a. trafficking case, which even then. they were just saying like. after the heinous. mishap of what happened with the Shawn. Combs trafficking case, it seems like. maybe the feds would be hesitant to do. another high-profile celebrity. trafficking case unless they've got.

20 times more evidence. So it really, really, really depends. Yeah. But. Maryland would be important. That would. be important if she was in Maryland. because that would that would change a. lot of things. This is a video from. August 24th, 2025. So people are trying. to use this date to narrow down the time. of death. However, a lot of sources. close to everyone are saying that that's. not Celeste in the video. So it's it. seems like it's pretty confirmed that. that is not Celeste in the video. Also,

with netizens trying to narrow down a. firm window of death, there is a poster. going around where it shows Etomi. David's alter ego on a printed sheet of. paper and it looks like it's from his. concerts. Now, remember how he's doing. the whole funerals. at his concerts. He's blindfold wearing. with a blind shirt and it says. celebration of life from the David. universe February 2023 to August 2025. People have used this as a timeline to. their relationships, but I will say we. tried to track down the source and we. found it originally posted. The earliest.

it was posted was on a fan account. So. it seems like a fan edit and then when. you look at concerts of the funerals. where he does have pictures of Etomi on. there, I don't see any dates. Like we've. been trying to zoom in and try to make. it as clear as possible, but we don't. see any dates. So I don't know if that. date counts, but people have been using. it to try and find a timeline for all of. this. >> [music]. >> One Instagram post that netizens do find. ironic is from September 5th, 2025, 3. days before her body is found. It's a. picture of a cat with its scalp removed. like animated.

And a glowing brain with needles being. injected into the brain with pills like. fluoride, Wi-Fi next to it, and the. caption, this is from David. He captions. it, I start media training tomorrow, guys. Wish me luck. Which people just. thought it was ironic. >> That is crazy. Three days before the. body is found. >> I would imagine that he would start. media training before his tour. >> Mhm. >> Because I'm assuming that's a lot of a. lot of eyeballs on you being recorded on. in a concert. >> Mhm.

>> Or even before his tour press release. schedule. >> Yeah. >> It's weird. September 8th, the body is. found. September 17th, the body is. identified to be Celeste Rios Hernandez. Two days after that, September 19th, his. house is raided. And then September. 22nd, >> [music]. >> 3 days after the raids, it appears that. David is online playing Fortnite. People know his Fortnite account, which. is pretty a famous account, because he's. David, and he started off as a Fortnite. player. It was active that day.

Yeah. And then 3 days later, September. 25th, 2025, Celeste's body is returned. to her family, and the public still has. no answers. Now, her body is returned to. her family, that doesn't mean anything. So, they might have gotten all of the. samples that they need to run tests, and. some tests take longer than others, but. her body has been returned. There have been questions of if her. family is going to do a private autopsy. You know, it it's just it's kind of. messy. So, we're going to go into the theories. of what might have happened. Theory one,

I'm just going to start with the Coco. Bananas Looney Tunes theory, which is. David killed for fame. Celeste was a. sacrifice because in Hollywood, you have. to take a life and give a life to the. devil to get famous. People have even. pointed to his eyes, saying that when he. first got famous, his eyes looked. normal, and now you see more whites. under his eyeballs, commonly known as. Sanpaku eyes. People are going to say. it means that you're going to die a. tragic death, that you're doomed, and. they connect it with people in Hollywood. saying that this is you get those eyes. once you sell your soul to the devil,

and a lot of people point to Billie. Eilish because she has Sanpaku eyes. I. think it's like sometimes it literally. is just the way your eyes are set in. your skull, and I don't think that you. can help it. I also do think as you get. older your eyes evolve because, you. know, as you get older your eyelids get. heavier or there's it's just a change. Because people are saying, well, why. didn't they have it when they were. younger? Why didn't they have it before. they were famous on? People are also. naming JFK, Abraham Lincoln, Marilyn. Monroe as having Sanpaku eyes. Um. people have just run with this theory.

that they have sold their souls, and. here we are. People think that David. sold his soul to the devil for fame, and. it's clearly working, they say, because. within the span of 3 years, less than 3. years really, he's gone on to work with. The Invincibles to create Feel It, a. very big song, and then that was March. of 2024, so before Celeste goes missing. He says with the lyrics, um what do you. have in store? To him it means, what do. you have in store? Like what can you. offer me? Like I'm offering all this for. you, what can you offer me? As for the. yes line maybe, like the yes line, he.

says, I always want to hear yes when I. ask a question. I don't want to hear. maybes, I don't want to hear nos, so. it's kind of like me throwing my. arrogance in there. It's speculated that. just that one song alone David could. have made close to a million dollars, and it's only been streaming for a year. Then November of 2024, he does another. collaboration with the animated series. Arcane, huge series. Like this is crazy. Like. this is Arcane is bigger than David, and. he does the song Remember Me. Notable. lyrics include, remember me, I'm on my. own, I'm too far gone, I couldn't see,

remember me. I don't want to lie, that's. not me, I just want to know more than a. memory. When you tell me that you love. me, guess it wasn't true, but I hope you. remember me. Most people love the song, um it's not nearly as successful as Feel. It, but people who love the song love it. because of its connection to Arcane. So, it's like a song that fits so well with. the scene that they're heartbroken over. they don't even want to listen to the. song. Whereas feel it actually becomes a. commercial success outside of the. Invincibles. And the Invincibles is. nowhere near as big as Arcane. Anyway, he's he's doing a lot. Then while this.

is all happening, Celeste is technically. missing. One person now comments, "I'm. going through David's reposts and it's. honestly very upsetting. Celeste goes. missing during April of 2024 and there. are videos that he's reposting while she. she's gone and his songs are blowing up. He's at the height of his career.". And then September of 2025, just a few. days before her body is found in his. trunk, his career comes full circle and. he creates the Fortnite anthem. It's. called Locked and Loaded and the lyrics. read, "Do you get scared or do you feel.

lost? I smell fear. I've been there. before. Goosebumps on your skin. Do you. feel what I feel? I'm waiting on you to. notice that you got what you wanted. We. don't got time to cry right now, only. time to focus. Two hits on a waitlist. I. was armed and dangerous to a take a. shot, leave you faceless. You should. have noticed I've been focused. You. should have known I'm locked and loaded. You better watch your back cuz we aiming. at your head. Pull up with the trio and. my eyes all red." Which yes, it's a very. violent song, but it's not really. something to be analyzed too deeply. considering it's for Fortnite. So, it. does match the assignment. One comment.

reads, "I think the industry made him. sacrifice someone and it ended up being. her and that's why he makes these songs. and he blames himself and they made it. look like his songs because he was. exposing the industry." One that is in. comment reads, "He sacrificed her and is. now channeling all of the emotions to. create good music because he has all. these like emotions now.". One citizen points to a a poem that he. wrote and posted on Twitter. It's called. The Mannequin. He writes, "I am a. mannequin. I have no heart, no bones, no. expression, but I do have eyes. These.

eyes don't tell the story of a human, but rather tell a human story. The women. walk by, they touch my clothes, admire. my figure, they take pictures of me, [music] but I'm unable to smile. On the. third day of every week, one woman takes. me to a dark room and tears me apart. Piece by piece, limb by limb, I see her. lips moving but cannot hear her words. Neither can I scream, for my mouth is. manufactured shut. I despise this woman, for she knows not the feelings of pain. and anguish that she causes me. I wish I. could tell this woman who I hate the. thoughts on my mind, but I have no mind, for it is not my place to think, rather.

to stand and simply watch. People think that this is him saying. that in the industry you are nothing. [music] You don't you don't get to. think. I will say this theory seems at. least plausible, but what do I know? I. don't know anything. I'm not an insider. in Hollywood, but like it just seems. kind of crazy. Then the next theory is. that he's innocent. I will say that this. and the previous killed for fame theory. consist of the smaller portion of. netizens online. There are layers to the. innocent theory. The first layer being. David is innocent. He didn't know he was. dating a child because she lied to him.

about her age. He thought he was dating. a university student just like his. friends had said. Again, doesn't seem like the case, but. that's my personal opinion. Neighbors. report along with Celeste's former. teacher show that she runs away multiple. times and on one occasion police brought. her back from Hollywood. I feel like she would know at that. point. >> Mhm. >> Just saying like that it seems weird. But in this hypothetical scenario, in. this theory, I they're saying he didn't. know and then she ends up dead. He has. nothing to do with it. and [music] he doesn't know how to say I.

didn't know because nobody would believe. him. That would be the mother of all. coincidences. Others are saying he never. dated her. He was dating the older. Celeste. He never dated her and maybe. they just ran in the same circles or. maybe she was dating someone else in his. crew, in his group, in his team and then. he was framed. Some people were trying. to say it's his brother's girlfriend. and some people are even saying maybe. his brother killed her and he's taking. the blame for it for something his. little brother has has done.

Seems very um I feel like that's only. something that happens in movies, but. this whole case is bizarre. So I guess. we cannot rule anything out, but. ultimately this theory hinges on the. fact that David is innocent. [music]. Some are saying that maybe David found. out that she was a minor, and then his. team found out, and they're like, "Okay, we got to kill her.". Like the team did it because they their. success and their career hinges on the. fact that David has to be successful. I don't categorically speaking, I don't. think that to be true at all. I think in.

Hollywood, um do you look at people who. work with celebrities? They don't give a. about the celebrity that they work for. typically. Like the everyone in. Hollywood, the only person that cares. about you is you. Like that's usually. the saying, right? So I don't think. that's the case, but some people are. kind of running with it. It also doesn't. help that the police have not named him. a suspect, that he has not been. detained, he has not been arrested. I. just don't know. And people are pointing to the fact that. they've been quiet because they know. they're going to be exonerated. So it's just a lot of work to say stuff.

when you know once the police exonerate. you, that's when all the talking will. happen. I don't find that to be as a. convincing of a theory, however, um I. will say I found it odd that he did not. even put out a formal statement when her. body was found, let alone when her body. was identified. So when her body is. found, nobody knows who she is, nobody. knows if there's any potential. connections to David. If he truly was. innocent, when he hears a body is found, he would instantly put out a statement. of like, "I don't know what's going on.

>> We're we're in shock, too. >> We're also going to work with. authorities, but I just hope they can. identify who this is and so that they. can be laid to rest with their family.". >> Exactly. >> Like it would be a very PR statement. written by his agency, written by his. team, and it would be put out. >> But the reason they wouldn't do that is. let's say he is guilty, then that would. be. >> People are saying any statement he puts. out. >> will be used against him. >> Yeah, and all of it could probably be. disproved. How do you say that you're. innocent if you have some sort of.

connection? >> Yeah. >> So, people are saying it's weird, right? I do think it's weird that he did not. put out a statement. But, another. netizen comments, "If someone accuses. you of a heinous crime, if you are. innocent, the very first thing you do is. lawyer up and proclaim your innocence.". >> Yeah. >> But, someone responds, "Lawyer up, yes. Public statement, no.". But, again, I don't think so because. >> you can make an innocent statement, yeah. >> even it's just weird he has not made a. statement. >> Yeah. Yeah, 100%. >> No one's saying "You sit down and give.

us a TikTok live stream of how you're. innocent." People are saying a black. screen with words statement. Like, that's what we expect and we didn't get. that, which is weird. Perhaps reasonable. explanation though is that his dad is an. attorney. Yeah, in one interview David describes. his dad as law firm, lawyer, law, he is. the law. I don't know, maybe his dad is. being extra cautious and will not let. anything cuz usually when you have um. public figures, their attorney and their. PR is always at heads. Cuz the PR is.

like, "We don't care about the law. Like, we just got to make sure people. don't hate you." And the lawyer is like, "Don't say absolutely anything at all, ever." So, I don't know. But, most. netizens think um at the very least he. has a statutory grape charge coming. That's the comment, the R word charge. coming. They even point out that he's. passing out La Booboos during his world. tour and one comment reads, "Hello Kitty. and La Booboos to attract the young. girls like a man in a white van offering. candy.". One comment thread reads, "I know he's.

being framed. I just can't prove it." To. which another person comments, "He was. dating a whole minor and the same minor. just so happened to be the same girl who. was in the trunk of his vehicle. Such a. coincidence though, right?" The. parasocial in some of these people is. really showing. Another person comments, "The internet. pissed me off so bad because what do you. mean? What do you mean? You can't. believe this.". Like, what do you mean? Another person comments, "Art imitates. life, yes. But, I think this dude was. framed. No way he's going to sit down. for an hour explaining his very. introspective art with this level of.

detail then go and do what happened. And. just the not named a suspect thing, one. law enforcement expert was interviewed. and he said, "Yes, he has not been named. a suspect, but I can tell you with a. 1,000% confidence he is suspect number. one.". Which makes sense. But there's just I. think too many things. So, um Oh, and. then there's another thing that people. have been pointing out to the people. that believe he's innocent. There was. this YouTube event where David was. singing and in the back they made this. like Pixar animated looking.

picture of three people in love. It's. like a Pixar style and it's David with a. girl with very curly hair who looks like. Celeste. So, it seems like if he had any. sort of. >> Why is it three people? >> It No, it's like three pictures, like a. trifold, you know? But then some people are saying they. can't just use musical lyrics in a court. of evidence, lol. I really am rooting. that he's innocent. So, we'll see. As for the accidental. death theory, this is um amongst again. fans that really support David and I.

think that maybe there is some. parasocial there because he was a very. front-facing celebrity. Perhaps he had. lots of conversations with his fans and. [music]. maybe it's not even just like I'm going. to defend someone I love. It's more so. there's no way because I feel like I've. watched his live streams and I think I. have a good judge of character. I think. it's more that. Like I know I don't. think it's appropriate, but I don't. think it's I'm just going to blindly. defend a celebrity. I think it's a. genuine like, "No, I've watched him live. stream. Like you can't tell me that I.

can't spot a killer because then what. would my Like I think my brain would. explode." It feels kind of like that. It. feels very frantic and very tumultuous. emotionally. But the theory is that. maybe she had overdosed on drugs. She's. missing. She's 14. He still is probably. dating her, so he would at least be. guilty of that, but they're just. debating the murder aspect [music] of. maybe she OD'd on drugs. He's at the. height of his career. She's a missing. girl. She's a child. They don't know. what to do. He panics and just puts her.

in the trunk or does something else and. then eventually she ends up in the trunk. cuz he has to go for tour. There is a. lyric where it says in one of his songs, you only like me when you're high. People think that. One part of this. theory I don't like is that there is no. evidence that Celeste ever partook in. drugs. And if she did, that's actually. even more insidious considering that's a. huge part typically of what child. predators do. Even traffickers, they. like to get their victims hooked on. drugs to keep them compliant, to keep. them the way that they want them. So, if.

she were to in a crazy off chance theory. overdose on drugs, he's a thousand. percent responsible if it's happening. the way we think it happened. That's. still murder. You know, it doesn't. The second accidental theory is that. because of the Tesla it has a dent in. the back, some people are hypothesizing. theorizing that maybe someone. accidentally ran Celeste over and she. passed away. This theory, some people. like to think that it was David. Other. people like to think that it was someone. on David's team who did not even tell.

David because they would get fired and. they did not call the police because. then they would go to jail. >> That's crazy. >> But it's just it's just hard to imagine. that they wouldn't call the police. >> Yeah, or just leaving the car unattended. like that. >> Yeah, after you hit them. And then. wouldn't David be like, why is there a. dent in my car? Who did that? I mean, I. guess you could make up a story, but. it's just it doesn't make sense. >> Mhm. >> So then we go on to the next theory. which is probably the vast majority of. netizens that he murdered her.

And a lot of them are just digging. through his digital footprint and the. first theory that people have is that he. is very jealous, he is very possessive, and in a crime of passion still does not. negate anything, he murdered her because. he is that possessive of a person. So, this is like the crime of passion. theory. His Tik Tok reposts are gold. mine for this theory. I mean, it's just. it's alarming. It just it feels like. he's telling us something because like. the first few, it's a little weird.

After 10, 20 of them, you're starting to. feel like what is this message that. you're sending people? I felt like I was. losing my mind. My brain was turning. into a jello cake with ham slices. inside. It was not a good time. Rapid. fire, let's go through some of his. reposts. A Tik Tok creator shows. themselves crashing out in their room. and the caption reads, "Me realizing you. won't get to heaven if you end your. shit.". >> Again, this is like when? >> This is around the time of Most of these. are from 2024 when they are in a rough. patch allegedly. >> Oh, so he Okay. >> Yes, but they're they go back they go. way back, too. There's some in 2022.

That is when netizens think that they. briefly broke up. There's some scattered. throughout 2023. The other ones read, "I. really need to cry. I really need to. scream out until my lungs bleed. I need. to smash my head into a wall and stomp. on the floor like a kid, but I can't. cry. I can't scream. I can only sit. solemnly in a serene manner holding it, bottling it, saving it for when I break, for when I crack to let loose on. somebody who doesn't deserve it and hurt. somebody who deserves better. I know. because it's a pattern. I'm predictably. awful. I live on a clock. I schedule. that dates exactly what will I do, when.

and why? Because [music] it's happened. before. I'm truly, utterly, undeniably. pathetic.". He's also a very jealous person if you. just look at his reposts. Quote, "My. biggest fear in a relationship is them. having to see me in an episode when I. can't help them right away, when I'm too. depressed to get out of bed, when I. start getting mad at everything, when. I'm just not acting like the version of. me that they know.". >> [music]. >> Or another quote, "When the smallest. thing upsets me and now I have to be. nonverbal and easily irritated for. minutes until I can let it go.". Quote, "Hopeless devotion is my love. language. I was not born for casual.

romance. I will give you my heart, soul, blood, literally anything you want from. me.". More Tik Toks. Quote, "When she was so. beautiful that it makes you start. thinking God for meeting her. She is a. walking masterpiece." Quote, "Unfortunately, I'm my mom's son, so. I'll make sure you're doing good despite. how I'm feeling.". Another one is a skit of two people and. it says what it's like being in a BPD. relationship and it shows the girl in. the relationship going through a variety. of emotions against her partner. I don't. know what he's trying to say with that. one. There's also a lot of woe is me. TikTok reposts like how you can do.

everything and she will still not like. you type of repost about how. consideration is the highest form of. love. One TikTok repost has a whole list. of things that they consider. microcheating, which I guess David. agrees with and they read "Being touchy. with someone else, secretly messaging or. talking to someone, deleting messages, talking to someone you know your partner. is uncomfortable with, turning to. someone else when your relationship is. getting rocky, lying about your. relationship status, not being. straightforward to other people that. you're in a relationship to someone who. likes you, seeking friendships with. someone you find attractive, complaining. about your partner to another person.".

He also reposts American Psycho where. the killer brings the gun to the head of. a blonde girl on the couch. Then another one is the song that used. "We're never breaking up, [ __ ] It's. either you, it's either me, or nobody. else in this world. [ __ ] I love you to. death." Never breaking up, [ __ ] You. It's either you, IT'S EITHER ME, OR. NOBODY ELSE IN THIS WORLD. [ __ ] I LOVE YOU TO DEATH. IT'S LIKE A. music or a movie quote. Another one says a woman who thinks. before making a decision and says my. boyfriend wouldn't like this is the girl. you got to keep around. Another one.

reads, "Now I've become the very thing. that you've swore to destroy.". Another one is just like a man very. passionately explaining to his viewers. about how if your girlfriend is talking. badly about a guy, he says along the lines of, "If she's. badmouthing the guy, her mouth is going. to be on him soon.". He has this whole theory of when girls. talk badly about a guy, that means they. secretly like them and they're going to. try to [ __ ] them. >> Do not let her badmouth another man.

around you, period, point-blank, because. they She will [ __ ] him. It doesn't. matter. >> That's a really crazy take. >> Yeah, and a lot of girls in the comments. were just like, "No, I just kind of hate. the guy.". >> Yeah. >> Like I just hate the guy. I don't know. what to say. This one is a crazy one. He. reposted this guy. And originally I. thought maybe cuz I was This was like. before other information came out. So. originally I was thinking maybe he. reposted it because he thought it was. funny. But it was a guy getting riled. up. And maybe that's the comedic effect. He's like ranting and he said, "You.

know, when females. have a street boyfriend, they get so. surprised when they get shot.". >> Like females be so dumb. Like females. will see a [ __ ] walking around with a. gun all day. And then when the [ __ ]. die, they be so surprised. [ __ ] he. literally had a [ __ ] firearm. >> And so he's explaining why you so. surprised, [ __ ] Because like that's. the life that you signed up for. Like. your guy that you're dating is in 25. different groups of people who hang out.

with guns. Why are you shocked that he was in a. shootout and got shot? This one is fascinating because Gus was. allegedly killed. Do you remember? According to the DMs messages between. allegedly Celeste's brother. >> This is news? >> Yeah, there's like DMs between allegedly. Celeste's brother and somebody else and. they were talking about Gus and they. said that Gus is dead for other reasons. >> What? >> And then Gus is in those screenshots. where she said that Gus was mad at her. Allegedly, this is her saying that. So.

some people are saying, "Okay, what if. he found out that and then Gus was. killed like shot by somebody else by. accident?" And then he's like, "Celeste. was sad or upset or shocked or. traumatized." And he's like going off. like, "Why are you so shocked for?". >> Yeah. >> Because it's a very random repost. >> Yeah. >> And it's um. >> Yeah, I mean, yeah, I can see the point. Yeah. >> Yeah, it's very like And it's also um it. was just out of nowhere. Like when you. go through his reposts, like he loves. his emo reposts and then all of a sudden.

this. And it just did not seem like his. form of comedy. His form of comedy is. typically that edge lord comedy. >> Mhm. >> So, this was not in line with it, so I. didn't think it was It was just weird. Or another TikTok repost says, "When she. starts posting herself looking fine as. [ __ ] on her story, but I already know. what she looks like.". There's one that everyone has been. talking about where she's chopping chick. like a guy. This is a repost is chopping. chicken like mincing chicken meat. Me, if I see her talk with other dudes. Another repost has the caption, "This is.

that difficult." And it's a slideshow of. text messages and the explanation being. if any guy tries to text my girlfriend, this is how she should respond. So, there's like imaginary guys saying, "You're fine as [ __ ] Like, what up?". >> Mhm. >> Blocked. "Hey, heart eye emoji. My boyfriend will. hang you on the fence by your underwear. Bye.". "You got a boyfriend? You got life. insurance? Bye.". One TikTok is a sound, "Just tell me. what I need to do to change. I'll do it. Like, you make me happy.". With the caption being sounding like. this because I would do anything for us.

to work. Another one says, "Need a girl who. doesn't interact with a single person on. the face of this earth.". Yeah, and then another one is a guy. laying in the snow dramatically and it. just is captioned, "Me daydreaming about. all the dates you will never go on with. me.". "My mood is based on when they text me. back. The feeling of getting rejected by. someone you love. I wish I could change. things like that.". "I love you, but I'm not what you need. anymore. I'm proud of my heart. It's. been played, stabbed, cheated, burned. down, and broken, but still somehow. works.". "Me staring at the love of my life.

slowly losing interest in me and leading. me on instead of telling me.". "Me staring at the I can't this weekend, sorry text. This is my fourth time. trying to see her." "Me watching her. replies get shorter and shorter.". "If my girl tells you happy birthday, you can have her cuz I don't know why. she happy it's your birthday.". "Me watching her scream after I pour. boiling water on her after she told a. boy happy birthday because why you happy. he made it another year? My damaged ass always thinks some sneaky.

[ __ ] is going on. >> Wow. >> one, when I when she blocked me to. everything so I pull up to the function. disguised as her granddad. Another one, when it's silent in your. room and you start hearing her voice. Another one, me after running over every. guy who's ever looked at her. And then. people have been talking about the Tesla. dent. Sometimes I go through her following and. start to hyperventilate. Another one, what do you mean he? And it's like when she's telling you a. story.

And then another one it's like, you're. in her DMs. It's like I guess him. talking to another guy. He reposted it. You're in her DMs, I'm doing a deep dive. into her entire digital footprint. When she comes over and she goes through. your phone instead of cheating, she sees. every guy in her following on my search. bars. Me after hearing about a boy she used to. like, so now I have to find his address, social security number, and mother's. maiden name. Imagine talking to other men when you. have me. Are you insane? >> These are TikTok reposts? >> Yeah.

>> Damn, there's that many of these type of. posts? >> Uh [sighs] yeah. >> It's just like a photos and words, just. words on the screen? >> Yeah, the amount of like digital. footprint that our team has been. scouring through. Yeah, like we had to split it up and. then we had to um yeah, and then at one. point we were like cross-referencing. each It was bad. Even just his Twitter. alone. >> Wow. >> Yeah, so I was going through all of his. TikToks and his TikTok reposted It took. so long. >> There's so much. >> Hm. >> And then his Instagram is another beast. Yeah.

>> Wow. >> And then if you like look. yeah. He's just very chronically online. Another one that went viral is a creator. saying, not saying I'm jealous or. anything, but I hope whoever flirts with. you other than me gets hit by multiple. cars. Now, there is a now new. contention. So these are all TikToks. that are pretty much unrelated to David. And And David starts reposting TikToks. of people using his sound of his songs, right? But a lot of people would do. that. And so people are saying, "Wait, he's just being a celebrity. He's just. re- promoting his song." But these are.

the ones that he chooses because I'm. sure thousands of people are posting his. sound. >> Yeah. >> One of them is um "Me when Pookie. doesn't answer me within 5 minutes.". There's ones that read, "I lied. I'm. jealous of everything. Pass me the. Draco." Which I still look it up, but. it's slang for a pistol-style AK-47, I. think. Then another one, alarming, is a repost. of a guy dancing and the caption reads, "Life is good. This is how life feels. when you aren't dating a lying hoe.". Another repost alarmingly reads, "And my.

Was I too controlling or did I just want. to be respected? Was I too controlling. or did I just ask for reassurance? Was I. too controlling or did I just care about. you? Was I too controlling or was I just. concerned for your safety? Was I too. controlling or is it because I love you. too hard? Was I controlling or were you. just out late drunk? Was I controlling. or I didn't want to get cheated on. again? Just because I care about you. doesn't make me controlling.". >> See, like all of these, right? It could. really could. you know, you can view it before and. everything is like, "Okay, this this.

artist is being so. >> edgy.". >> Right? Like cuz that aligns with his. brand, like the type of music he makes. >> And he does a lot of [ __ ] posts. So. people could be like, "Maybe he's [ __ ]. posting and reposting this because he's. like trying to pump a song later that's. like crazy and weird.". >> But we just don't know. We just don't. know what actually is going on. >> Yeah. Then another creator using a sound. that says, "Are you scared? I'm trying. to figure out what the [ __ ] you got. going on? Like are you okay?". And the caption reads, "When I say,

'Fuck him, just block the guy' and he. hesitates because she doesn't want to be. mean.". Another one is when you're having a good. time and they ask if we ever break up, it's going to be you breaking up with. me, but you already know what that. means. That was like a whole trend. And. then another one reads, "Can we just. have a mature relationship where we. don't have to worry about each other. flirting with someone else or social. media [ __ ] or friends trying to. sneak with me or you? Like, can we grow. together mentally, spiritually, religiously, emotionally, and. physically? Let's show this generation. that loyalty still exists." And now all.

the comments are, "Mature? She was a. child." And people have been commenting. if these are all about Celeste, he's. likely vilifying her in his head, assuming that she lied about everything, and. I mean, she's a child. So, people are saying there's so many. red flags. What are you talking about? And then some people are saying, "Okay, well, there are ones that he reposts, but they're using his sound. They're. using his song." So, it's just him. promoting like any other artist would. But others are saying, "Wait, but look. at the ones that he's chosen because. likely thousands of people are posting.

with his song." So, one of his songs. crashing, he chooses two, and they have. the captions, "Me waiting for that. [ __ ] notification every time. I'm left on delivered." Another one. says, "When you always consider their. feelings, but they never consider. yours.". >> Yeah, it's all in the same vein, right? >> Yeah. >> It's all in that type of energy. >> And clearly he is someone that is not. only possessive and emotional. It just. seems like he is very much in his feels. and prioritizes his emotions highly. Just like a lot.

And you can tell by his reposts like he. like he'll post reposts things like, "Sorry I was weird. I wanted you and I'm. hurting so much, bro. I need someone to. show me that they care, not just say it. All I do is listen to music and. disappoint people.". "My life feels normal for 15 minutes. before I have a sudden wave of sadness. that lasts almost a week. Could I. genuinely hate myself more at this. point? I think I'm being played, but I'm. already attached. I'm not even mad. I'm. hurt. No matter how good your heart is, eventually you have to start treating. people the way they treat you.". Another one just reads, "Motherfuckers.

when I start acting mentally ill after I. told them I'm mentally ill.". And people have been pointing it out um. not just like he's in his feels and he. has these romanticized versions of love, not because they want to feel any. sympathy for him, but people have been. pointing it out because it feels as if. he probably could have used this against. Celeste. >> Mhm. >> For example, in another interview he. says this about love. >> Love shouldn't be transactional. I feel. like most of the time, especially like. nowadays, people get into a relationship.

or we use the term situationship a lot. now, where you have to give something to. gain something. And I feel like when. love is real, it's both parties playing. in love. And that's why I love the term. falling into it because it's like. sometimes you don't expect it. It could. be like super rushed. And people like to. take the term, I'm taking it slow or we. should take it slow. It's like love. doesn't dictate the timing of it. You. can't really. predetermine. what that feeling is to you.

>> Again, people think it's like him trying. to tell Celeste like, "Yeah, but it I'm. not a predator. I just couldn't control. that I fell in love with you." And like. made it this whole romantic love line. story. >> And I think when people try to plan too. much or overcompensate for their lack of. emotional intelligence, they kind of. make a bunch of excuses for love. And. then it's just like more infatuation. than the actual emotion. >> Some people think that in his reposts, he already knew what was coming because. there's one very viral repost now where. it's just a slideshow of like, "Where. I'm going to be in a few years." slide.

And it's just a single mattress in an. empty room leaned up against the wall. And it just looks very lonely. I think. that was the aesthetic, but people are. saying, "Oh, so in jail.". Or even the funeral aspect. Some people. are saying, "Okay, so funeral theory, he. wanted a funeral theme for his concert.". This is the comment. "And had a casket. and a book for people to write messages. and leave their respects because he. started to feel guilty that he knew. Celeste was dead, but nobody else did. So she never got a send-off because he's. very religious. So he is doing it in his own way through.

dedicating the concert to her and her. funeral without people even knowing it. It's all so twisted, but it would make. sense if he thought he loved her. Then another repost of Lil Wayne. It's. just like a clip of Lil Wayne and this. is um around 2024, so last year. It's. saying, "I'm not saying that I didn't do. nothing wrong, but now I'm doing it. right. That's all we can say. Cash. money. [ __ ] how we used to be. Now we. how we need to be.". And then he also reposted another TikTok.

of a soldier in a movie explaining how. he killed someone and that person didn't. even kill back like fight back. They. just It's like a movie clip. Others think that he might, if he is. arrested, go for an insanity defense. I mean, people are like heavily. speculating now just because um there. are some weird repost. One reads, "I. wish I could live a quiet life, but I be. hearing voices, so.". Another one reads, "When I end up. tripping over nothing again, but it's. only because I never liked anybody like. this before and the voices in my head be.

telling me stuff." But it could also be. him trying to be an edge lord. In one. interview, he gives tips on how to be. social media famous and he says, >> "Be a different person every single day. Sometimes you got to be bipolar with it, too. You got to be a bipolar content. creator. You got to pop up real serious. one day and switch it up and be real. funny, then be sad, and be happy. Like. you have to find your fans and find that. target audience in whatever way you can. So, think outside the box.". >> And then the next theory of her getting. murdered that he murdered her. So, the. first one was jealousy, possessiveness,

a crime of passion. The next one is that. she realized that she was being groomed. And she was going to say something. Or. maybe he had quote moved on and she. realized that everything he said was a. lie and it's starting to dawn on her. that she had been groomed and he killed. her because he could not let it get out. Then there is another theory that she. was pregnant, which is why David would. have to kill her. She can't give birth. without there being questions, without. their alleged relationship coming up.

Now, the timeline is all over the place. with this theory with some timelines. showing that either Celeste would have. had to have miscarried or terminated, or. there's a baby out there, which of. course these are just timelines of. speculations. But, some people have run. with it, and people have even been. putting out AI-generated videos of. police finding remains in David's. Hollywood Hills backyard of an infant, which is not real. There is no There's. no way to even know if she was pregnant, and I don't think it's something that. the police would even tell anyone soon.

There's a screenshot of an alleged. Discord chat where it shows David. allegedly telling everyone, "I'll join. the group chat with my wifey and give. you all the story time. Me and. @deleteduser got a kid on the way.". We don't know if that's true. We don't. know if he's joking. We don't know if. the screenshot is altered. That's from. December 7th, 2024, so the end of last. year. Then there is a screenshot of. someone commenting from January of 2020. 4. "Please adopt me, I need it.". David allegedly responds back @0907.

It's no longer an active account. 0907, September 7th, that's Celeste's. birthday. So, people think this is. Celeste. Should we? So, he tagged her. and said, "Should we?" Like, should we. adopt? >> Again, not sure this is real. >> Yeah. But, it's I mean. >> It's quite specific. >> Yeah, like if people were going to fake. things, I think they would fake crazier. things. >> Yeah. >> Like, where I find it interesting. birthday, is that her username then? >> Yeah. But, it's like a she wasn't. posting anything on there, it doesn't. seem. It seems like she went through multiple.

different accounts, so maybe it's just. like let me just make random accounts. And then um I did see there is this. young couple, really young couple that. were expecting, and they did use his. song "There Goes My Baby", and he. reposted that. And then there's also. another one from a mother with her baby, January 4th, 2024. She's not. particularly famous from what I know, because I I looked into her account, it. didn't seem particularly massive, and I. don't know, maybe she worked on David's. team. Maybe they know each other. personally. But, the caption is no one.

prepared me for this type of love, and. she's holding her baby, like newborn. baby. >> Mhm. >> So, people are like, that's a little. weird. Yeah, and then another one of a guy that. says, and he looks like he's trying to. explain something, like imaginary. explaining something, and the words are. POV me practicing how I'm going to tell. our future kids how everybody wanted. their fine ass mom, but she chose little. me. Uh there's no proof that she was. pregnant. There's no proof that there. was a baby, but some people even think. that there goes my baby, that song is.

after a termination. And not actually about Celeste, and. using Celeste swinging while like the. world is burning. cuz it's like a very I don't know. >> [snorts]. >> Then, there are there's the complicated. theory. Where people think. it's just complicated. Some people think. that the older Celeste is involved, that. the Yeah, this is a crazy allegation. Um.

I don't think her staying silent about. this situation is an admission of any. sort of guilt or connection. I think. that she could be traumatized. She could. be working with the police. There could. be so many different explanations that. we don't know, and I don't think it. would be smart for her to come out and. do a tell-all right away like, this is. what happened. This is I think any of. that information that would be useful. would be the most useful telling just. the police. So, I do understand that. But, people say because of her silence, because she hasn't clarified which.

videos are her, maybe she was jealous. There are some people going around. saying, "Hey, I knew them, and she was. always jealous of the younger Celeste. when she would come around." But, again, that could be nobody. That could be a. guy in the middle of Nebraska who has. never met these people making a Reddit. post. So, I don't know. I just think. that's a crazy allegation to throw on. someone. So, I don't know. This was not her car. that Celeste was found in, so it's hard. to even connect her to the death without. even a little bit more. Other people are connecting other people.

on David's team. Other people are. connecting that maybe David is the one. that killed her, but there's a lot of. other people involved in maybe hiding or. disposing of a body. So, that's why it's. getting very complicated. They just feel. like there's more than just David. And so, that is pretty much the main. theories right now of what has happened. More people are joining the David is. innocent theory uh day by day. We've. been monitoring online and it just seems. like it because. they just keep saying, "Oh, so there's.

lots of fake news." People are saying. that he was dropped as a suspect. And. the police never said that. Like, they. never said that. They just said that no. one has been named as a suspect. So, that's not at all true, but I think. every day that passes that he is not. arrested, people think that he's. innocent. But, I would say um like the. police said, it could take weeks. It. could take months. We don't know. We don't know if this is. going to be a state case, a federal. case, if it's any case at all. And if. it's a case at all against David, it. could be against somebody else. It could. be against multiple people. I don't.

know. But, there have just been a lot of. memes, I guess, that have been coming. out of this situation. People have been. ad-libbing David's songs. For the song. Feel It, one of his most popular reads, the top comment now reads, "Bro is going. to feel it in court." About his song. Summer Uptown, people are commenting, "Bro about to do a summer in jail." To. which someone comments, "Shut up. She He. wasn't even talking about Celeste in. this song." As for the song Crashing, the comments used to read, "This guy is. a 1,000% proof that you don't need. $1,000 equipment for quality music.". Now, the comments read, "It all come.

crashing down." Yeah, it is. It does, David. It does. In David's. self-published mini-documentary, the top. comment now reads, "No, bro. We're going. to be getting a new full documentary.". In another interview, he's reacting to a. documentary, a brief little segment, his. mini-documentary that he posted. And his. parents are giving him life lessons, and. he states he's super close to his. family. His mom tells him, "David, stay. focused, keep your heart pure, and keep. your morals, and don't change for. anyone." David laughs and said, "I. forgot how dramatic this was.".

>> I forgot how dramatic this [music] was. They acting like I'm dead. >> Then people have been pointing to. another interview about his withered. project, where he says. >> With all these songs on the project, it. basically takes you through this kind of. goodbye message to myself, and it's kind. of like a farewell. >> Which now have people concerned, questioning, depending on who you are, that he will be self-exiting before a. potential arrest. But a lot of people don't think so, cuz. I don't know. This case is just very messy. A lot of.

netizens are also upset with the way. that Celeste is always described as. being 15 years old when she was likely. 14 when she passed. It feels subtle, but. I think that a lot of specifically women. are upset because there were there was. another news outlet that called her like. a young woman. And it's like she's a little girl. Like, why do we keep always trying to make. predators alleged predators sound better. by making the victim sound older? She's 14. Like, say she's 14. Others are pointing out even more.

nuanced things. One netizen comment, which I thought was really great because. I mean, I I guess maybe I felt it, but I. didn't even know how to put it into. words, and this was very eye-opening, but it reads, "A lot of people are. romanticizing this a little too much by. saying he was obsessed with her. He. idolized her. She was a child who was. just starting to grow up, and he was a. predator with a secret. I think the. truth of the matter is even more. depressing than most people realize. He. liked children, and that child was. starting to grow and have her own. thoughts. And predators who like. children don't like that at all. It's. not some twisted love story, and he's.

not a mastermind. He's just a pathetic, disgusting little man who would likely. had begun grooming another little girl. given time.". Others point out Celeste Vigil, and they. think that it's really depressing, and. they say. but how about we do this before she was. found dead? Maybe she could have come. home, maybe she would have stayed home. It just seems like a lot of people. failed her. I don't know because we. haven't heard many statements, but to. some degree maybe her family failed her. And then it seems like. the police definitely failed her.

It just seems like multiple failures. before what happens. And that is so far all the updates we. have on the David and Celeste case. [music] I'm sure there's going to be new. updates. I'm sure there's going to be. new AI generated videos and rumors. I. will try to keep you posted as best as. possible. And if there is ever like an. arrest made and arraignment, we'll try. to be there, but. it's a lot. What are your thoughts? Leave it in the comments. And I will see you guys in the next one.