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Barbie and Barbuda. In some cases, it's more alarming to buy. a money counting machine than to buy a. cadaver bag. You can technically freely. buy both online. The money counting. machines being the little things where. you put in a stack of cash, it counts it. for you. Some of them are really smart. They do mixed bills of cash. So, there's. fives, tens, hundreds in there. It'll. count it. Then at some point, that was. more alarming in the United States to. purchase than body bags, full-on cadaver. bags.

>> [music]. >> In 2008, the DEA started to use blanket. administrative subpoenas to vendors, people who are selling money counting. machines. And they're like, "We want a. list of every single person who's buying. a money counting machine." Basically, if. you purchase one, I would imagine that. you're still on some sort of federal. watchlist for buying that money counting. machine because why did you need one? The DEA has since stopped. There was a. lot of public outrage and human rights. activists arguing that it is actually. abusive to Americans' right to privacy. to put them on some sort of arbitrary.

list based solely on the fact that they. purchased an item that is technically. lawful to purchase. It's a lawful. product. They're legally allowed to buy. it. People were really upset about it. until now. Now, netizens are wondering, "Maybe we bring the list back and put. some other things on the list." Because. why are you allowed to go on Amazon and. purchase a cadaver bag for [music] $32? You can buy a cadaver bag online, like. the ones that they use in morgues and. hospitals, body bags. Depending on the. quality, obviously, it's going to be a.

different price, but it's also going to. be anywhere between somewhere to 100%. leak-proof for long-term storage. Some. of them are going to be better sealed. that prevents less odors from escaping. And body bags are not just used for. human bodies, which might be why that. they're so freely available on the. market. Some hunters say that they use. them for game, though I think that's now. been labeled like a newbie mistake. because you need your game meat to be. able to breathe during transport. So, sticking it in this heat-sealed body bag.

would be bad unless you're moving very. quick. One hunter writes, "You want to. get your game out of the skin and on ice. immediately. If not, you won't want to. eat it." So, maybe a no-go on the body. bags. Aside from hunting, body bags are used. by a lot of different people. Search and. rescue teams for recovery missions, state emergency agencies will stockpile. them for mass casualty events, farms, sometimes vets, livestock vets. They're. going to have body bags to transfer. livestock to their final resting place,

wherever that be, or to their cremation, their burial. Horse owners, cattle. ranchers, lots of people will have them. And it's also just something that you. can purchase on Amazon for us $32. The. reviews are not as grim as you would. think. Some of these reviews are about. people writing about how they used it. for something completely unexpected. Somebody is using it to storage their. mermaid tail. 9-ft tall mermaid tail. under their bed in a body bag. Another. says that they're a doctor for athletes. and they use it as a cooling tub. So, as.

they wait for EMT to arrive, they'll. fill it with cold water if need be and. throw the athlete in there. Another. review reads, "This bag was perfect for. storing two 7-ft long pre-lit Christmas. garlands without crushing them. It's. very sturdy fabric. Zipper and handles. makes it easy." Another reads, "I'm. tall. I got this for a camping trip. because I needed a cheap way to make my. sleeping bag waterproof. It's a bit. awkward if anyone sees it since it looks. like a body bag because it is a body. bag. And but it is, you know. This was a. good find, though." And of course, there.

are other reviews that feel maybe a. little more unsettling to read. "Do not. use this for what it was intended. >> [music]. >> It will leak and will not hold water or. fluids. Leaks through all the. stitching.". But just because you order a body bag on. Amazon, it doesn't mean that you get put. on some federal watch list. Though. recently, people have been arguing yet. maybe you should be put on a watch list, especially when you purchase a body bag, an inflatable pool, two chainsaws, and a. burn cage to go along with it. Like what.

David did. This is the updated episode with all the. legal updates for the David [music]. case, where last year in September, a. 14-year-old girl's decomposing body was. [music] found in the trunk of this. famous singer's car while he's out on. tour. It took 7 months to arrest him. And this is what the authorities say. happened. >> [music].

[music]. >> We would like to thank today's sponsors. who have made it possible for Rotten. Mango to support NCMEC, the National. Center for Missing and Exploited. Children. This episode's partnership has. also made it possible to support Rotten. Mango's team of dedicated researchers. We'd also like to thank you guys for. your continued support. As always, full. show notes are available at. rottenmangopodcast.com. Please be aware that there are mentions.

of grooming, CSA, CCM, and dismemberment. in relation to a 14-year-old child. This. case may be extra sensitive due to the. victim's age, so please don't hesitate. to pause. We have two previous episodes. on Celeste's case back when her body was. first discovered. However, I would say. that if you haven't seen those, maybe go. watch those first. I'm still going to. try my best to provide enough context. and foundation to the case so that. you're not completely lost as we go. through the most recent case updates. Though, if you ever find yourself at a. point being like, oh, why don't you.

mention the song that he allegedly wrote. in her name? Why don't you mention this? Those are probably in the first two. episodes. Those are pretty thorough deep. dives of all the internet speculation. theories and comments that people had. And this is now with. the legal aspect of the case, the. pre-preliminary hearing that's coming. up, the arrest, and the preliminary. hearing brief that the prosecutors. dropped as well as the autopsy. With. that statements, any quotes from court. documents may be condensed or combined. for brevity. So, with that being said, let's get into it.

Everyone has their own opinion on. whether or not you should or should not. bury your beloved family pet in your. backyard. You have to weigh out your. options. One person says they want to. bury their family pet in their family. pet's favorite spot in the backyard. because that's what feels like honoring. them. Another says, "I mean, yeah, I get. it, but I would never because what if. one day I move? Then I would rather my. pet come with me, so I'm going to. cremate them and then take them. everywhere with me." I don't necessarily. think that there's a right or wrong. It's all personal, unless you're.

breaking the law. It is not legal in. every state, which poses a huge problem. because you're grieving the loss of your. family pet, and then the police are. investigating you, especially if you. were this particular family in the. Hollywood Hills. >> [music]. >> Because it is illegal to bury your pet. anywhere within the city of Los Angeles. in your backyard. Really? Yeah, not only. that, the smell is starting to get bad. They buried their family pet, it was a. big dog, a husky, back in February of. 2025. This is when the weather is still. very chilly in LA. And now that it's. hitting the summer months, I mean, some.

days are okay, but anytime it gets above. 70°, the smell is starting to get really. bad in the neighborhood. They're. thinking maybe they didn't bury their. beloved deep enough. And so, right when they're about to take. on this very. unpleasant project of digging up their. family dog to rebury their remains even. deeper, the smell stops. September of 2025, the smell is gone. This is right around the time that their. neighbor's Tesla is also gone from being. parked on the street. The smell is gone.

It's getting hotter, but the smell is. gone. We know now that the smell was. likely not from the family dog being. buried in the backyard, but this is what. the family told a private investigator. that had been looking into this case. That this whole time they thought it was. their family pet. That's so crazy. So. they've been smelling for a long time. >> Yeah. And now they know that it is most. likely from human remains being stored. in Sincara David's Tesla's front trunk. The smell in the neighborhood appears to. have been present for months. There have.

been newly circulating clips. So I'm. just going to. >> was in the front trunk? Yeah. Front trunk is not that big. >> No, it's pretty small. >> [clears throat]. >> You'll see how the body was found in a. second, but. I'm going to give you a timeline. April. 23rd, 2025 is when prosecutors believe. Celeste Riveras Hernandez was killed. July 4th of 2025. There's this live. stream that's been heavily circulating. and people have been dissecting every. single part of it. People have been. major news networks have been throwing.

it up and then they're trying to catch. background noise and they're adding. subtitles of a confession and it doesn't. necessarily sound like it's me, but. there's just a lot being dissected in. this live stream that we're going to go. through the entirety of. But there's. this one moment that everybody is. fixated on because it's July 4th, 2025. The alleged murder took place April. 23rd, 2025. So this is months later and. this is live streamed by a Twitch. streamer by the name of Sakura. She is. at David's house getting ready for a 4th.

of July party with David and a few other. people. So they're all getting ready and. then they're going to go to the FaZe. compound for the 4th of July party. Wow, I didn't know they are all close friends. like that. >> Yeah. David's actually friends with a. lot of streamers. Yes, he started off as. a streamer cuz he was streaming Fortnite. and he's always been embedded in the. streaming world. He has music videos. with other streamers. He has music with. streamers. Wow. Heavily involved. These. people are going to be important later, but you have David, you have Neo who is.

David's friend and also a Twitch. streamer, but I think that he's a very. small time Twitch streamer. I've never. heard of him up until this case. We have. Asia, another one of David's friends, and a few other people that are. lingering in the background. Like I. said, there's a few notable parts in. this live stream that we're going to go. through, but particularly, there is this. one shot where they're just showing. around the living room, and there is a. candle balanced on the very edge of the. grand piano right at the entrance of. this house. This is kind of a weird thing to do. because the candle is burning. And this.

candle is the size of imagine a coffee. mug and trying to balance it on the stem. of a fork. It seems dangerous. Look at. this [ __ ] candle. Look at this [ __ ] What are we doing, bro? And it seems like it's not doing enough. to mask whatever is stinking up the. house because at some point David. apologizes to Sakura on the live stream. You don't really see David in the.

stream, so he's not in the frame of the. camera, but you see Sakura and she's. sitting next to Neo, who's David's. friend. And she's like, "Oh, I don't. care. I just took a [ __ ] in there." I. don't care. I just took a. And Neo is sitting there looking very. uncomfortable. Like he's looking left, right, looking like, "Ugh." I mean, one. could imagine that maybe Neo seems. caught off guard that they're so openly. discussing their bowel movements on. camera. I mean, I guess some might even. call it crass, but others think that Neo.

is not the type to be taken aback. clutching his pearls at the mention of. poop. So, why is he looking so. uncomfortable? And what exactly are they. even smelling? Let me run you through. that timeline again so it makes sense. Celeste was killed, prosecutors believe, April 23rd of 2025. July 4th, 2025 is. when the stream in question was filmed. with David apologizing to his friends. about the smell in the bathroom because. he pooped 2 hours ago. Then September. 2025, Celeste's body is found in the. front trunk of David's Tesla while he's.

out on tour. And for months, nothing. substantial comes out about this case. until January 23rd, 2026, so earlier. this year, four months after Celeste's. body is found, the very first arrest is. made, not in LA, in Montana. And it's. not of David, it's of his close and. personal friend, Neo Langston. Neo Langston does not seem to have a. personality outside of being David's. friend. You can find out a lot about Neo. Langston, also nothing about Neo.

Langston all at the same time. He's a. Twitch streamer. Apparently, he played. Fortnite a lot. That's all I know. Maybe. that's the common interest that he had. with David or even how they met. He just. makes like very mediocre content online. I don't know how else to describe it. One video is of him standing in the room. stating, [ __ ] that will go out. of their way and do something for you. and then expect something in return and. then call themselves selfless. Like no, [ __ ] you just a selfish, manipulative [ __ ] Like get over.

yourself. [ __ ] you. Which I think is a. very mediocre, just mindless take, but. he thinks it's philosophically profound. the way that he's spewing it out to the. camera. There's another one of him in a. beanie and a hoodie staring into the. camera saying, "Quick reminder, good. people don't call themselves good. people." Thanks for the reminder, Neo. Why are you smiling in your mug shot? There He's arrested January of 2026 and. he's smiling in his mug shot. Full. smiles. He also tried his hand at stand-up.

before all of this. He does a little. stand-up bit where he says, much dating. experience, which hopefully is a shocker. to y'all. I don't. I don't want y'all to hear that and be. like, "Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, he's That makes sense why he's been. single.". >> [laughter]. >> I keep going through these like mini. relationships, whereas the kids call. them situationships. At the end of every. single one of these situationships, the. other person, and I mean this without. fail, always finds the love of their. life. Every single time.

I I help everyone find the love of their. life, just at the expense of myself. It's just. Don't don't don't do that. Don't do. that. >> [laughter]. >> Don't kid yourself, man. So, I took this. negative and turned it to a positive. I. decided to make a dating profile, and it. ends up with, "I'm not going to be the. love [clears throat] of your life. I'm. the guy right before that. So, if you. want to find the love of your life, do yourself a favor. and date me first.". That's He's not particularly memorable. by any means, except for the fact that. he was very proud to be David's one and.

only Asian. He actually said that. Yeah, I'm David's one and only Asian, though. No one else, just me and David. We're He. gives me the type that if he and David. are in the restroom and there is no. toilet paper, he would gladly offer. David his palm. I would say no offense, but that would be a lie because full. offense is meant in that. He gets. arrested at his mom's house in Montana. on a warrant for failing to appear as a. witness. He gets hauled back. He gets.

extradited to Los Angeles, where he is. reportedly forced to testify in front of. a grand jury in connection with David's. case. I'm going to try to break down all. the grand jury shenanigans as cleanly as. possible. There's been so much discourse. about, "Oh, because it wasn't a charging. grand jury, it must mean that the DAs. don't have enough evidence." There's a. lot of discourse about it, and hopefully. this clears up some of it. When we hear. grand juries, typically what we picture. is a charging grand jury. It's where the. DA will present a structured case to the.

grand jurors. This is sealed. This is. not public. You can't go and watch this. happen. There's no judge in the room, no. defense attorney, no defendant. Just the. DA presenting their case to the jurors. They can bring in witnesses. They can. bring in other people. I'm going to give. an example. The target of our. investigation is Chelsea. Chelsea, we. think she stole her best friend's cat. Here are our witnesses, her best. friend's mom, her best friend, the. neighbor who was an eyewitness saw her. steal the cat. Here's our exhibits and.

all the elements of each proposed count. that we want to bring on. Now, please. vote. Okay, Chelsea, you are now. indicted with stealing a cat. Technically, that would never happen. because stealing a cat in most. jurisdictions would be considered a. misdemeanor and I think it would be. highly unlikely for a grand jury. indictment to be done over a misdemeanor. You get the point. This is just an. example. In the federal system, essentially every federal felony begins. with a grand jury. You need a grand jury. indictment. That's what the feds do. That's not the case on a state level.

like California. The choice is up to the. DA whether or not they want a grand jury. indictment before arresting someone. So, this is the way that it works. You can. get a grand jury indictment and then. arrest somebody or you can arrest. someone and file a criminal complaint. But, the most common method is you file. a criminal complaint and then you arrest. someone. [music]. So, you don't need the grand jury. indictment. I mean, that's what a lot of. people picture though when they refer to. a grand jury. It's a charging grand. jury. The DA is here to get an.

indictment at the end. There's a. different kind of grand jury. It's an. investigative grand jury and they cannot. be the same. So, you can't go in there. and say, "Hey guys, I'm the DA. I'm. going to start this off as an. investigative grand jury, but then I. might change my mind and at the end you. guys get to vote on whether we indict.". You can start another one. You can. convene another one, but you can't do it. in the same one. They use the same grand jurors, but the. prosecutor the DA is not asking for a. vote. They're just using the grand. jury's subpoena power to investigate a. case. [music].

So, to give you some context, unless the. police have a warrant, really at most. all they can do if you maybe saw Chelsea. steal a cat is ask you politely to talk. to them about what you saw. But, you could also say no. But, a grand jury compels you to. testify. You have to come in and you. have to answer these questions, otherwise you're going to be held in. contempt of court, which is a crime, a. felony. So, now you are forced to come. in and answer these questions. Another.

huge element is they're locking in. testimonies. So, it's not even just. about forcing people to come in and. testify. >> is that what Neo uh what happened to. Neo? He He refused to come to this grand. jury. >> Now, here's the thing and this is going. to get complicated later. We're going to. do a whole deep dive into Neo in a. second, but. even if you don't show up, Mhm. you're. kind of taking the risk of maybe they're. going to arrest you, maybe they're not. Mhm. So, this arrest is not even like. about oh, he's guilty of anything. related to the crime. It's just you. refused to talk to us, so.

>> I think the arrest itself people have. been dissecting in terms of. the LAPD going all the way to Montana to. make this or coordinating with Montana. to make this arrest, Yeah. it must mean. that Neo knows something or at least. they thought he knows something. Maybe. he doesn't know anything, they just. thought so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a lot. of effort. Yeah. So, that's the first. one. You're bringing in people to. testify because maybe they wouldn't. otherwise. Then the second aspect of an. investigative grand jury is you're.

locking in these testimonies. People are. testifying under oath in front of the. grand jurors. This transcript will. always be there forever and if the case. goes to trial 2 years down the line, the. prosecutors, defense, they can and will. hold it against you and try to impeach. you on the stand. Even if you're the. prosecutor's witness. So, this is why. prosecutors might want to bring in. someone like Neo to testify. So, to give you an idea, okay, let me. explain. Let's say you saw Chelsea steal. the cat. You're subpoenaed, you testify. to the grand jurors, "I saw her pick up.

the cat with both of her hands and she. put the cat in her backpack and then she. ran to the car." 2 years later you're on. the stand during the trial and you tell. the jurors, "I saw her pick up the cat. and she was running with the cat to the. car.". The defense is going to try to impeach. you. Did she have a backpack? You're. like, no, I I didn't see a backpack. They're like, oh, well, 2 years ago. during the grand jury investigation, you. stated, and she put the cat in her. backpack. So, do you not remember? Or. did you see a backpack? You didn't see a. backpack? Or like you just don't care? Or you did you even see her run to the. car?

Or sometimes, it's for the prosecutors. So, if you're friends with the target of. the investigation, you might change your. mind about what you said. Mhm. It just. could be human nature. And maybe you feel bad for Chelsea. 2. years later, you're on the stand at the. trial, and the prosecutors knew that you. have a soft spot for Chelsea. And now. you're on the stand and you say, I don't. I don't remember if she put the cat in. her backpack. Honestly, I. I think the cat might have just walked. with her to the car by itself. I don't. remember her picking it up. I I don't.

know. I can't tell you. They can. technically impeach their own witness. And say, no, you're lying. 2 years ago, you told us at the grand jury. investigation that you saw her put the. cat in her backpack. Don't lie now. So, they're locking in. these statements. Mhm. So, they're like, you can't go back on your word now. We're going to impeach you with this. And there's also the secrecy element. Grand jury proceedings are sealed, which. means the target of the investigation, David in this case, will not learn what. others have said until years later if.

he's charged. Well, in this case, it. won't be years later, but it'll be. later. So, he doesn't know what's being. said while it's happening. It's not you. can't request the court transcript for. grand jury investigations. Mhm. And it keeps autopsy details, forensic findings sealed away from the. public during the investigation. Basically, an investigative grand jury. makes sense in this case when. prosecutors want subpoena power. They. want testimony under oath. They want. people to come in that would never sit. voluntarily, and they need to lock in. their stories. A lot of netizens were.

initially concerned that an. investigative grand jury meant that this. was a weaker case for the prosecutors. Just gauging based off the fact that. they didn't have a charging grand jury. Thankfully, that is not the case. It's. just what the DA decides to do to get. what they want. They had three. investigative grand juries, not to. indict, but to investigate the target, David Anthony Burke, for murder. I'm going to run through the timeline. September 8th, 2025, there's a black. Tesla sitting in the impound lot of.

Hollywood Tow. You guys know the story, but there's a little bit more that's. come out since. The employees see flies. circulating the frunk, and the smell. emanating they stated is They describe. it as being foul. They call the police. LAPD Detective Klor, he opens up the. front trunk of the Tesla, and he notices. this large black zippered body bag with. handles. It's very clear it's a cadaver. bag. It's not just like a trash bag, it's not a laundry bag, it's a cadaver. bag. The report reads, he partially. opened the bag to reveal a human torso.

and the back [music] of a head. The. autopsy further states how the body was. delivered to the ME's office, so we can. kind of understand how the body was. found in the trunk. Quote, I observed. the decedent's posterior head and torso. lying prone. So, face down. So, Celeste's torso and head were found face. down in the body bag when you open the. zipper. And her head was oriented towards the. north. She appeared of indeterminate age. and ethnicity with [music] dark hair and.

natural teeth. She was wearing a tube. top, underwear, and leggings, and socks. I observed multiple holes in the front. and back of [music] the tube top. She. was missing both arms above the elbows. and both legs above the knees. Underneath the body bag was a black. trash bag that contained the decedent's. apparent compiled bilateral arms and. legs. They appear to have been. dismembered into several fragments. The. decedent was in an advanced state of. decomposition demonstrated by foul odor,

discoloration, liquefaction, insect. activity, [music] partial. skeletonization, and skin slippage. Side note, she couldn't even be. fingerprinted because her fingers were. waterlogged, which means through decomp. and sitting there in that body bag, her. fingers had soaked up so much fluid that. the ridge pattern that is typically used. for fingerprinting was useless for an. ID. The report reads, "The decedent was. female and had dark hair with. decomposition fluid and insect activity.

Also, insect activity was observed on. the body and the body bag. The body bag. had a double zipper, three handles on. each length side, and a handle on the. top and bottom width end. The body bag. took up most of the front space. Underneath in the trash bag were {quote}. The trash bag was tied and contained. with the dismembered arms. So, the. decedent's arms were cut and removed at. the bicep. So, above the elbow, under. the shoulder. This is an interesting. point that a lot of medical former.

medical examiners have been commenting. on. Usually people in cases like this, where. there's not a lot of medical knowledge, people will try dismemberment at joints. So, elbows and shoulders. Yeah. The fact. that that was not done is just. interesting. I mean, I'm sure someone. could psychologically break it apart, break it down. That person wouldn't be. me, but. it's they just noted it's interesting. So, at the bicep. And the legs were cut. twice, so severed above the knee, so. around the thigh, and then below the.

knee, around the calf. So, is it like. again through the Yeah, so not the. joints. So, not the knees, not the. ankles. So, the legs were in four separate. pieces. And this autopsy was sealed. until as of recent. This was presented. to the grand jurors during the. investigations, I'm sure. I mean, perhaps they received even more. information, which would be likely, but. the public autopsy does not indicate. whether or not the dismemberment.

had clean cuts, how rough the cuts were. There's just a lot up for forensic. debate. The report reads that on the. right hand, on the inside of her right. index finger, she has this tattoo, which. David has been photographed with having. a very similar tattoo, which. that was like dug up. >> S H H H on the finger, right? >> Yes, like you would put your finger to. your mouth and say "Shh" as in keep. quiet. The report continues that her. left eye is gone, and quote, "The left.

ring and pinky fingers appear to have. been mutilated and I did not locate them. during my scene examination. They're. actually still missing." So, her left. ring finger. and her pinky are still missing. Now, reportedly, Celeste had David's name. tattooed on her left finger. I don't. know if you remember, but there were. pictures that were circulating on. Discord, where somebody was wearing what. appeared to be almost like a promise. ring and engagement ring, and then had. David tattooed on there. People were. saying, "Oh, maybe that's Celeste. Maybe. that's Celeste." I mean, that was all up.

in the air for debate. It seems a little. bit more solidified now, though we still. can't confirm it 100%, but that's just. what it appears to be. And now, those. two fingers are missing. That's in. September. They have their first grand. jury investigation December of 2025, and. then the third one January of 2026. Then Thursday, April 16th, [music] 2026. So, this is 7 months and a week after. finding Celeste's body in the Tesla, LAPD walk up this driveway, and they are.

finally arresting David in a $3.5. million house in the Hollywood Hills. Not the house that David was living in. when Celeste's body was found in his. car. This is a new house. Really? >> That he's rented. And for the past 7. months, David more or less had gone. radio silent. He was not publicly seen. for months. A lot of people were. actually under the impression that he. had gone to Texas to be with his family. after Céleste's body was identified. He. canceled his tour. He didn't post on. social media. He went dark. There were. reports and rumors that he was active on.

Fortnite, that he was reviewing movies. on a movie account like rating system, but he doesn't publicly say anything. He's not caught by TMZ grocery shopping. at Trader Joe's. He was apparently. hiding out in a new rental in the. Hollywood Hills for the past 7 and 1/2. months. A new house that apparently. nobody knew he was hiding out in for the. past 7 and 1/2 months. This is a house. There's a very private pool area with a. cabana. There's It's four bed, three. bath. It's a stunning house. Wow. It's. in a very calm neighborhood, very close. to the other house that he was living at.

when Céleste's body was found. Except on Thursday, this neighborhood. was not so quiet. April 16th, 2026, one. neighbor says she just hears on a. loudspeaker, "Surrender. It's time to. surrender, David. Time to surrender.". She's no clue what's happening. I heard. someone on the megaphone saying, "Surrender. Surrender. Come out.". >> another neighbor releases video of David. talking to the police who came to arrest. him, and they're letting David know if. he tries to run, they're going to. release the canine dogs, and he's going. to get bit. To which David says, almost.

in his casual tone, "I got you. I got. you." Is that If you try to run. or if you try to resist, you will get. hit with a taser. It's going to hurt. I. got you. He has to come out through the gate, but. he also needs to keep his hands in the. air. So, he asks them, "All right, so. the gate is locked. Do I open the gate?". All right, so. the gate is locked. Do I open the gate? Sir, open the gate. He opens the gate at the police's. instruction, and he's promptly arrested.

He is, by all means, cooperative in the. arrest. He's wearing gray sweatpants, a. black hoodie. He's escorted out of this. Hollywood Hills house that he's staying. in with his arms behind his back. He's. taken to LAPD's 77th Street Community. Police Station and booked in at 10:12. p.m. as inmate number 7221640. and is held without bail. That's so crazy. So, you're saying that. this is the first time people know that. David lives in this house.

One neighbor later tells the news, "We were surprised to learn David was. living nearby. We never saw him." We. never saw him. We never saw anyone going. in or out of this house. It was a We. actually assumed no one was living. there. Another neighbor says, "All of. our neighbors were kind of in a group. chat and we were like, "This is kind of. scary that we've been living around the. corner from um an accused murderer." Is. he living alone, though? It seems like. it. That's crazy. How does he even get food. or how did he even get in there at the. first place? We don't know any of this.

>> No. Another neighbor, look, I don't know. which neighbor is telling the truth. Perhaps one or some are mistaken. Maybe. they're all telling the truth, but it's. all kind of in the middle. But, another. neighbor says, "Why, I'm glad he's been. arrested because there were parties at. that house all the time." One neighbor. actually told me that he's relieved that. there was an arrest because he said that. there have often been parties at this. home. I asked if he's heard parties here. recently. He said, "It's an ongoing. problem." What?

>> He's like, "It's been an ongoing problem. for me." Now, we don't know if maybe one. of the neighbors got confused about. which house they're talking about. Maybe. he was throwing parties. We don't know. I Technically, I wouldn't be surprised, in my opinion, if he was throwing. parties and people were showing up. But, I just don't imagine that that would. not get posted on social media. >> Yeah. Yeah. Like, TMZ would have picked. that up in 0.2 seconds. >> would be at the house party. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, I I don't know. Maybe. he's mistaken. Maybe it's a different house, but it's.

just It's The big question, though, is. why now? And not that anybody is upset. that he's getting arrested, but we also. wanted this like 7 months ago. So, why. now? It's a huge question about why it. took authorities 7 months to arrest this. man. The DNA evidence probably was gone. because there was so much deterioration. of the body, plus the authorities wanted. to talk to lots of witnesses. That. probably explains the gap. >> We know that the DA's office did not get. a grand jury indictment to arrest David. There was actually no criminal complaint.

filed before David's arrest, which means. LAPD would have probable cause to arrest. him, which makes people confused. Because okay, so the way that it works. is you get an indictment and then you. arrest. That indictment means that you. can arrest. The DA's office will file a. criminal complaint. With that, the. police are like, "Oh, now we can go. arrest." The third way, which is the way. that they did it, is the LAPD go in and. they arrest. Now, for the LAPD to do. that without an indictment or a criminal. complaint, that means they need to have.

probable cause to arrest him. So, that. has people confused. Like, what probable. cause do you have now, 7 months later, that you didn't have 7 months ago? Mhm. One of the arresting officer says, "We did the best we can to keep tabs on. him, but once we developed probable. cause to arrest him for murder, then we. were on him pretty diligently.". Which a lot of people are like, "That. makes it sound like you just got this. probable cause. That this is not. something that you've been sitting on. for months, because at that point you. should have arrested him. So, like, why. didn't you have that months ago and. suddenly you got it in April of this.

year?" Netizens believe that maybe. police received a new big piece of. evidence they didn't have before. Maybe. they received forensic testing back. Maybe they got a witness statement that. could be verified, or maybe they felt. like David was going to flee the. country, because all of those would. result in probable cause. It could be. any and all of those things, or none of. those things, really. I mean, the DA has. been rather tight-lipped about why the. process took so long. They were giving. very the expected answers. More on that. in a second. But David is charged with. count one first-degree murder with three.

special circumstances. The special. circumstances means in the state of. California he could face the death. penalty. That's up to the prosecutors to. decide if that's the route that they. want to take. And he only has to be. found guilty of one of the special. circumstances. The first special. circumstance is lying in wait. So, this. is on top of the murder charge. Like. murder charge, special circumstance. Meaning that they're trying to prove. that David concealed his purpose, that. he watched and he waited for the perfect. opportunity to surprise attack and kill.

Celeste from a position of advantage. The second special circumstance is. murder for financial gain, which this is. exactly what it sounds like, but. technically some legal experts believe. that this is actually the weakest of the. three special circumstances, mainly. because of legal wording. Some people. believe, some legal experts believe that. protecting pre-existing income might not. qualify as financial gain. So, they're. saying like usually in legal situations, you're talking about killing someone for. inheritance, an insurance payout, or a.

murder for hire payment, you're gaining. financial gain. It might not apply to. someone killing to prevent the loss of. an already established income stream. I. see. Though I think that could be easily. debated with prosecutors presenting the. fact that he's going on tour right after. allegedly killing Celeste, and that. would be a new income stream. He. released a new album, which is a new. income stream just days after they. alleged David killed Celeste, two days. after his new album drops. And other. cases have treated avoidance of loss as. equivalent to acquisition of gain. So,

experts think that this will be the most. litigated special circumstance, but I. don't know. Then you have the special. circumstance of murder of a witness, and. this is where a lot of people have been. getting confused. Allegedly, David intentionally killed. Celeste for the purpose of preventing. potential testimony in a criminal. proceeding. So, everyone just started. running with it, and they were like, "Oh. my god, Celeste had already gone to the. police." Celeste had gone to the police, and she was a witness in the crime. against her of him grooming her, essaying her, and then he needed to kill. her to make sure that she's no longer a.

witness. That's not necessarily what the. wording means. It just means that she is. a witness to a crime that was committed. against her. There's no way to verify as. of right now that she had already gone. to the police about it. But the wording. I think a lot of people were running. with it like she had already gone to the. police. Mhm. >> [clears throat]. >> He has also been charged with continuous. sexual abuse of a child under 14. They. are very specific about this charge. So. the charge date is September 7th, 2023. to September 7th, 2024. So this is the.

exact year that she's 13 years old. Now. something to note is the prosecutors. believe that this documented abuse will. be from when Celeste was 13 all the way. up until her death. So when she's 14 as. well. They're like, oh yeah, he was. abusing her when she was 14 too. But. they only charge him for the time that. she's 13. And that is highly. intentional. So when the victim is under. 14, it's going to make the case the most. severe in the state of California. And. also in the state of California, if a.

child is under 14, the prosecution does. not have to disprove consent. Basically. based on California law, the victim's. consent is not a defense to the crime of. lewd and lascivious acts on a child. under the age of 14 under any. circumstance. So the defense, if they. try to do, oh the victim wanted this, initiated this, kept repeatedly coming. back, was gaining financially from it, it doesn't matter because Yeah, yeah. they're under 14. So the judge is going. to say, oh jury, ignore everything that. the defense is saying. Yeah. Also the.

mistake of age is not a viable defense. for this charge. So when someone is under 14, it doesn't. matter even if this is true. It doesn't. matter if the defendant is like, no, I. swear and I have all the evidence that I. thought she was 18. It literally doesn't matter. You can't. use it as a defense. It doesn't matter. No matter how true it may be, even. though I genuinely think that you can. tell the age difference between someone. who's 18 and 13. But even if you say the. victim lied to you, doesn't matter.

Again, I still think that you would have. to be hit on the head a bunch of times. to be deluded into believing that David. didn't know Celeste's real age, but he. won't be able to use this. Then, count three is the unlawful. mutilation of human remains. This is. what a lot of people call the floor. conviction. Even if they can't get David on the. murder charge, which given the. information being released thus far, I. mean, albeit it is but released by the. prosecutors, it seems hard to imagine. that they won't get him for the murder. charge, but even if they don't, this is. their floor conviction. They're probably. most definitely going to get him for.

this. And the prosecutors, they're going. strong. The felony complaint reads that. David {quote} with malice aforethought. murdered Celeste. It is further alleged. that the murder of Celeste Revuelta. Hernandez was intentional and was. carried out by the defendant David Burke. for financial gain. It's further alleged. that the defendant intentionally killed. the victim by means of lying in wait. Day Hawkman, this is the district. attorney Hawkman. He says, These charges include the most serious. charges that a DA's office can bring. That is first-degree murder with special.

circumstances. The special circumstances being lying in. wait, committing this crime for financial. gain, or murdering a witness in an. investigation. These special. circumstances uh carry with it, along. with the first-degree murder charge, a. maximum sentence of life without the. possibility of parole, or the death. penalty. He says, "My description of. these charges is not evidence that we. are going to present in court. These.

charges, in fact, will not be evidence. in the court." So, this is just him. legally saying, "Just because we charged. him, doesn't mean that's evidence.". Evidence will be the witness testimony, the documents, and different types of. admissible testimony that we will uh. admit into court in the prosecution, and. if it leads to the eventual trial of Mr. Burke to convince a jury of 12 people. beyond a reasonable doubt that each and.

every one of these charges is true. >> He later explains that quote, "There is. physical evidence and there is forensic. and digital evidence that we intend to. present in court to prove these charges. beyond a reasonable doubt. [music]. Celeste was just a child under 14 years. old when David Burke allegedly engaged. in a repeated lewd and lascivious sexual. relations with her, but David Burke's. actions did not allegedly stop there. When she threatened to expose his. criminal conduct and devastate his. musical career, Burke allegedly murdered. her, cut up her body, [music] and.

stuffed her body in two bags that were. placed in the front trunk of his car. There the dismembered body sat for over. 4 months decomposing until it was found. at a tow yard on September 8th, 2025. This horrific and gruesome murder. committed by the charged sexual predator. is shocking and appalling to Celeste's. loved ones. We will get the justice you. seek and deserve. By the time that. you're seeing this, we are now heading. into the preliminary hearing for David. and there's a lot more of the weird. aspects about the preliminary hearing.

that we're going to get into later and. what to expect and like why it's working. out the way that it's working, but. before that, the prosecutors have. decided to drop a preliminary hearing. brief. A pre-prelim is what some people are. calling it. It's formally called the. people's brief regarding preliminary. hearing evidence and it is It's almost. like a narrative timeline of what the. prosecutors believe happened to Celeste. And this is by all means kind of. unusual. Usually prosecutors don't drop a brief.

before the preliminary hearing. Mhm. It's kind I mean, it's not. something they shouldn't do. It's just. unusual, but let's dissect it. So, we. already know that September 8th, 2025. Celeste's body is found in the front. trunk of David's Tesla and we all know. that it seems like she had been deceased. for a long time, but nobody really knew. the strong firm timeline of when she. could have passed. People were just. saying, "Oh." One friend came out. anonymously on Reddit and Discord and. said this is the last time they heard. from her. This is just like internet. ramblings of us piecing together what we.

thought happened. The prosecutors are. like, "I'll give you the timeline." The. court document reads, "April 23rd, 2025. is the likely date of the victim's death. and when all her cellular activity. ceased." So, she would have been. deceased for about 5 months before her. body is found. We are given more detail. about when the two met. So, January of. 2022 is when the prosecutors believe, this is 3 years before her death, Celeste is 11 years old. It goes on to state, "They began a. sexual relationship in November 2023.

when the victim was just 13 years old. and the defendant was 18 years old.". We're going to focus more on that time. period in a second, but we're just going. to go over the other findings first. Prosecutors believe that Celeste is. killed April 23rd, 2025 and the night. before she's killed, so April 22nd, David and Celeste get into an argument. over text messages. We don't have those. exact text messages right now, but it. appears those will probably be. introduced into evidence and will. probably be key pieces for motive. The.

brief reads, "The messages revealed the. victim's jealousy over defendant's. relationship with other women as. defendant led her to believe that they. had a future together. She became. extremely upset and threatened to. disclose damaging information about her. relationship with the defendant to end. his career and destroy his life. Defendant's first studio album was due. to be released on April 25th." So, these. text messages are happening April 22nd. She's killed allegedly April 23rd and. his Withered album, this is actually his.

first like studio album, debut studio. album, is scheduled to be released April. 25th. Insane. And this still came out on. the 25th? >> Yes, and he went on tour for it. He had. an emerging multi-million dollar career. already in progress. This is what the. prosecutors state in their brief. He. also had multiple product endorsements, which were highly profitable. So, back to April 23rd. So, April 22nd, it seems like they were arguing over. text. She was. jealous. I mean, these are the words. that they choose to use, right? Over his.

relationship with other women. Could be. girls, could be minors, we don't know. April 23rd, pre-sale tickets for his. Withered World Tour go on pre-sale. And. this is the tour that he keeps bringing. in a casket to to each of the tour. locations. Remember, we covered that in. the first two episodes? This is that. tour. He even posts on TikTok, "Your. prayers have finally been answered. My. album drops tomorrow." Which. you probably have to go through like the. Reddit trenches to find this or go. through our first two videos. His TikTok.

has since been deactivated by TikTok. after his arrest. That was around 5:53. that he posted that. The brief reads. that at around 8:40 p.m. April 23rd, David sends Celeste an Uber to her. family house in Lake Elsinore. That Uber. is now going to take her, drive about an. hour and a half all the way from Lake. Elsinore to David's house in the. Hollywood Hills. And this ride was, I mean, by all means. completed. So, the prosecutors state. that during this Uber ride, the two of. them are communicating. I'm assuming.

[music] texting. And eventually, she's. dropped off at his Hollywood Hills home. at around 10:10 p.m. Now, the filing. says, "Knowing he had to silence the. victim before she ruined his music. career as she had threatened, very soon. after her arrival at his home, defendant. stabbed the victim to death multiple. times and stood by while she bled out. At no time did he call law enforcement. or 911 or take her to an emergency room. to attempt to save her life." He. allegedly stabs her on the right. abdomen, so injuring her liver. A second.

stab wound is on the left side of her. chest with penetration of underlying. intercostal space. And the second stab. was in her left chest area. The autopsy. reads there are two penetrating wounds. of the torso with smooth edges that may. represent sharp force injuries. So, I. mean. everyone's thinking a knife, but they. can't in the autopsy say a knife. They. can't be [music] that specific. Stood by. while she bled out. That has been a huge. topic of discussion online with people.

saying, "Oh, well, how could the. prosecutors write that unless. someone has proof of him doing that? Was. a witness there? Did a witness come by. and say, 'Oh, he stood there and watched. her bleed out?'" Others are saying this. wording has been misconstrued because. people have been taking it, running with. it, and saying he watched her bleed out, which almost insinuates that he got off. on her dying and he was just watching. the life drain out of her. I will say. something to note is it just seems like. a narrative inference to emphasize that. he did nothing to save her life. So, I.

don't necessarily think that there was a. witness, at least at this point, that. saw it happen or heard that he did that. It seems narrative at this point. Now, the prosecutors seem to believe that. after stabbing her, he sends her a. message at approximately 10:30 p.m. So, she arrives at the house 10:10. This is. 20 minutes later. He sends a text. message to Celeste inquiring about where. she is. 10 What time? 10:30? Yeah, 10:30 p.m. So, the people are saying, the people. meaning the prosecutors, they're saying.

this is part of the defendant's. premeditated plan to cover up the. murder. Like they believe she's already dead at. this time. The filing further alleges, "Despite knowing she was dead and her. family was trying to find her, the. evidence will show the defendant lied. and claimed he didn't know where she. was. In fact, the defendant drove to. Santa Barbara County immediately after. the victim died attempting to dispose of. her property and destroy evidence. We know that he makes at least three. trips to Santa Barbara after killing. Celeste.". Santa Barbara is like hours away. >> Yeah, Santa Barbara's really far.

>> like a few hours, right? >> Yeah, and I remember the drive is like. like there's a lot of isolated parts. even to get from LA to Santa Barbara. Cuz we've made that drive before as. well, and there's like lots of parts. where there's not a lot of people, especially on the road that you're. supposed to take. Yes. >> like that the same night? >> Yeah. And then he drives like a few weeks. later, too. So, he makes at least three. separate trips. Santa Barbara, I think, is going to be a pretty big element in. all of this, whether or not. it's fruitful in finding items that the. police need. I just think there's.

something in Santa Barbara. That's what. a lot of people think. Because January. of this year, Celeste's passport card. was found in Santa Barbara off the. highway. So, this is before the arrest. And the phrasing in this document is, "In fact, the defendant drove to Santa. Barbara County immediately after the. victim died attempting to dispose of her. property." So, that could mean her ID. and destroy evidence. Is that just like clumped together, "Oh, her property is evidence"? Or could it. be the murder weapon, because that. hasn't been found yet? What else do they.

think that he could have disposed out. there? Could it be the missing left ring. finger and pinky finger that have still. yet to be found? Or is it just the. passport ID card? Why did he make so. many trips? At approximately 11:30 p.m. on April 23rd, 2025, he drives to Santa Barbara. So, she. arrives at 10:10. He texts her at 10:30, and then 11:30 he. starts driving. He calls and texts. Celeste's phone as he's driving asking. where she is. The prosecutor stated, "Again, these were acts calculated and.

planned to set up his defense within a. very short timeline after the victim's. vicious murder." He gets home early the. next morning, April 24th, 2025, and he. does this quick radio interview for the. release of his album. That's all the. prosecutors give us, a radio interview. People have been dissecting it. So, the. Zach Sang Show interview comes out, but. that was actually filmed early in April. The I will say the date hasn't been. confirmed, but it seems like it was not. that interview because he talks about. Coachella. He talks about going to.

Coachella. Uh-huh. He talks about. preparing for Coachella, which happened. before. I'm practicing new flips for. Coachella. What? New flips. You're going. to flip? I am. Then people have brought. up a different interview, the Songwriter. Universe interview, and I will say that. he does sound really tired in it. It's. like an 11-minute audio interview. He. sounds exhausted. >> Uh basically, it was a very, very. unorthodox way of getting into the. music. I was never very musically. inclined my entire life. I never really. focused on music. I had an I. a drive or. uh.

a passion for music. >> Usually in interviews, he loves, like he. gets off on explaining his creative. process and being the most creative. person in the room, but this interview, it just seems like he's Oh yeah, so I. got my start in my sister's closet with. my phone and BandLab and I just said, "This is how I started because I didn't. want Fortnite to I was getting. copyrighted on my Fortnite streams, blah. blah blah blah blah." It just seemed. very less enthusiastic, less. sidetracking thoughts, which usually. he's a fan of. However, I will say there. are parts in the interview where they. say, "Oh, your album comes out later in.

April." Right. >> wording makes it Yeah, makes it sound. like it's not. So people haven't found. the exact interview? So we don't know exactly which radio. interview this is. I'm sure we'll. probably find out if this progresses to. a trial, but around that time, so this. is again the day after killing Celeste, he does this radio interview, and quote, he [music] sent two additional texts to. the victim's phone that day, which. obviously went unanswered because she. was already dead. >> [music]. >> Again, I guess this is his way of trying.

to create some sort of alibi and excuse, but the crazy part is prosecutors allege. after April 26th, defendant never. attempted to contact her again. So he really only does this. He only. puts up this ruse for like 3 days. The. day after allegedly killing Celeste, he's doing the radio interview, and he. orders something on Postmates, which is. basically Uber Eats. He orders a shovel. from Home Depot. That same day, he apparently goes on a. live stream. There is not a whole lot of. clips online, but the timeline seems to. match up to this day, but don't quote me.

on it. It's It's not confirmed. This is. allegedly what, like, 18 hours after. allegedly killing Celeste, and he's just. talking about his Fortnite locker. So, with the release of his album, because. he's been obsessed with Fortnite since. day one, he did a song for Fortnite that. you can use without copyright. Like, it. was a whole thing. It was supposed to be. a full circle moment, and Fortnite also. released a locker that you could get, which has a bunch of David merch or. David items that you could Now, you can. refund them if you purchase them, by the.

way. And the whole stream, he seemingly. cannot stop blurting out words. Like, one person is just commenting, like, his. energy is so strange, because he's just. He's just. rambling. It's like he's filling a word. count. What is he doing? Just Just on. Fortnite, he's like, "Look at my locker. Oh, yeah, one day I'm going to get a. skin. Oh, that's my dream to get a skin. Yeah, I'm I'm a Like, he's literally. just. It sounds like he's on drugs, I would. say. He seems manic. When you get this. skin, it's going to be a monumentous. moment. Monumented. Monumented.

Monumented moment. Yes. I'm so hyped, bro. He seems I don't know if it's the. adrenaline high. I don't know if he's on. drugs to push through I don't know. Another person just comments, "Bear in. mind, he just had his first album. released. He just killed someone. He's. probably on drugs. Guy's brain must have. been going like a million miles per. hour." Another notes, "His energy is. definitely off. At one point, he can't. stop talking, probably to take any. thoughts out of his brain.". Another comment addresses people saying. that David was feeling euphoric after.

killing Celeste. So, a lot of people. have interpreted this clip as like, "Look at him. He's on cloud nine. He's. getting high from the kill." One comment. writes, "I feel like people really. fetishize him as some sort of Ted Bundy. type. It's probably anxiety and. stimulants. Even if he felt like it was. the perfect crime, everyone would have. had some sort of anxiety. And that's not to humanize him, you. know. It's apparently after this live stream. that he attends an album release party. held for him at the 100 Thieves. compound. He's wearing sunglasses and he.

looks, at least from the outside. perspective, completely normal. He's. very smiley as one would be expected to. be for an album release party. He's. thanking, he's hugging people. A few. things that people noted is that he. appears to be wearing a silver Hello. Kitty on one finger. Some people suspect. that it was the last. It's kind of crazy that. from that point on, everything is almost. recorded to the public. >> Documented, yeah. It was live.

and people were living through it with. him. >> Mhm. Without knowing what's going on. There are points that he even. uses words like dismemberment when he's. discussing something else. After the alleged date of the. dismemberment, so there's just a lot. that comes out online and usually I I. try to be a little bit cautious and wary. of. tying things that people post online to. exact state of minds because I just feel. like you get disproven so many times. during the trial like that wasn't even. the timeline. There's just a lot up for.

debate, but I will say with this case it. gets harder and harder not to do it. Even his lyrics, usually I'm not big on. like, "Oh guys, this is what his lyrics. said so it must mean he was planning it. all along." But it's just a lot of. there's so much overlap of weird. coincidences. >> Mhm. As well as the fact that he used her. voice in some of his songs. But it's just yeah, there's a lot. And. in most of the pictures from the party, he has the palms of his hands faced away. from the camera or it's like balled up. into fists. So there's one where he's.

holding his hands in the air in front of. everybody, but his hands are balled up. into fists, which makes people wonder if. he had some sort of wound on the inner. palm of his hand because. that is the most common spot for wounds. if you are stabbing someone. It is very. hard to stab someone without sustaining. some sort of injury because of all the. blood, there's usually some slippage of. the knife, and that would be on the. palm. More on the palm in a second. But. soon after, according to the brief, he. flies from LA to New York City. So, the.

day after allegedly killing Celeste, he's doing an interview, he's on a live. stream, he's going to an album release. party, and then he's flying to New York. City. The next day, he has a Band Lab. and David pop up at Union Square. He's. performing and he's singing his song. After Life, which is on his new Withered. album, at the Band Lab pop up, and we. discussed this, but we didn't know the. timeline, he breaks down crying. mid-song. He's like singing After Life and he's. crying. Right. This was the day after? Two days after.

Woah. He was like on the ground, kneeling on the ground, right? >> No, so that's the Houston concert that's. coming up in like a few days, but this. is him on this bar stool. Uh-huh. >> He's wearing his bonnet, his sunglasses, and he's like hunched over on his mic. Wow, this is Notable lyrics for After. Life include, "The devil told me you. were good for me. My mother told me he. would lie. What doesn't kill you waits. for later. I thought a girl would make. me happy. Real love is not for sale. I'm.

still by your side. I crossed it with. you and when I die, you're holding the. knife. I'll love you even from the. afterlife." It does appear that this. song holds a lot of importance for him. because in a previous Zach Sang. interview, but this would have been. filmed probably before Celeste died, he's Zach Sang is asking, "So, what. stage of the Withered, you know, is. dying? Withered is dying. So, you're. going into dust, but you're coming back. again. Is that what I'm getting through. these 14 records?" It's definitely like. a resurrection type of thing. So, but by. the end of the project, it's done. So, that's why the last track is called.

After Life. That's like the the final. blow, you know? He says that he went. through a lot to write this album. >> of, you know, getting outside my house. and exploring the world and finding. friends, losing friends, finding. relationship, losing relationships, it's. just everything has kind of been shaping. and leading up to this project in such a. domino effect way. This This album is my. life. Like, Withered is my life. Petals. to Thorns and Lost Petals are what I. want in my life to be, and then Withered. is my life. So, he's talking about his. mini EPs, Petals to Thorns and Lost.

Petals. April 25th, 2025, he posts another. TikTok where he writes, "My album is. out. Let's [ __ ] go." And the caption. reads, "No more side quests. You guys. can't bully me anymore. Haha." And he's. singing to one of his songs, Is This. Really Love? Potentially relevant lyrics. include, "Is this really love? You said. you never meant to hurt me, but baby, I. know this is how it goes. And if there. is a world where you're not leaving, then darling, I need to know, is this. really love? You may have called my. bluff, but you've been acting up. Hating.

you ain't enough. I just want my love. back." One thing people have found. interesting is he keeps opening his. hand, his right hand. Like, he keeps. singing to Is This Really Love and. opening it like a hi. And there's this red cross on the palm. of his hand. And in the center, it reads. Jesus, but it's almost like a scribbly. red temporary tattoo. Some people think. that this temporary tattoo is covering. up a scar because it just looks really. bizarrely done. I will say that he does. typically draw crosses on his hand, but.

in black ink. So, this is at least the. first time I've seen it in red ink with. Jesus written on the inside. But also, the fact that he keeps showing it to the. camera people thought was weird, that. maybe he's trying to hide it in plain. sight. Mhm. Interesting. Okay. It could just be a. temporary tattoo. Some netizens believe. that he got this temporary tattoo before. killing Celeste. So, it's really hard to. gauge the timeline because a lot of his. stuff has been taken down. So, you're. kind of just going off of screenshots on. Reddit that you're like, "Oh, well, this. person is saying that it's that, so it.

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Say It Back, and Ghost.". Wait, he has a sister, too? Yeah. So, you said he had a little brother? He has. a little brother, Caleb, and he has a. little sister, and he would bring his. little sister up on stage frequently. How old? >> During his tour. Uh, she looks to be about 10. Oh my, wow. And the only reason that I'm pointing. out these lyrics now is he posted this a. few days after Celeste allegedly was. killed. So, the fact that he's singling. out these three songs and most of the.

Tik Toks that he was posting in this. point, he's really pushing the song Is. This Really Love? All the Tik Toks, that's the song playing. He's reposting. people using the song Is This Really. Love? Now, he says Friend Again, Say It. Back and Ghost. I don't know if there's. some sort of like obligation that you. have to promote certain songs in an. album or if this is some sort of inner. looking into his psyche at the time, but. relevant lyrics for Friend Again include. Think we should settle down, that's what. I told her. I should have been bolder. She said I'm not the one. I used to be. her everything and now she doesn't.

answer me. I think I'm coming down, but. it's not over. I'm losing my composure, letting you get to me. Good thing we're. older now, but I still want her. Now. you're lonely, you need company. Please. don't call me. I won't be your friend. again. Relevant and discussed lyrics for. the song Say It Back include I love you. like I'm supposed to, but you don't say. it back. You never say it back. So now I. hate you and I hope it breaks you. I. won't take it back. Talking to the walls. inside my room, the voices in my head, girl. Relevant and discussed lyrics for. Ghost read Oh, heaven or hell, we will.

meet. Lucky me, lucky me just have met. Torture me, torture me, torture me, I. can't forget. [music]. He might have you, but I've got your. ghost and we both know that's the real. you and God knows it's true. I love you. the most, but we both know what I have. to do. Eyes looking right through me. Why can't I hear your heartbeat? Just a. dream, just a dream. Don't wake me up. Make-believe fantasy. Dance with me. under the moon above. He states those. are his three favorite tracks from the. album. April 27th, he does an album. release show in his hometown Houston. He.

closes with After Life and he apparently. sings it back to back or like three. times. I can't Some people are saying it. was back to back just twice. Some people. are saying it was three times. So, take. this with a grain of salt, but someone. had commented I was at his concert, the. vibes were so off. Also, he sang his. song After Life like three times at the. end. He's also This is where he's. crying. He's like breaking down singing. After Life. Just full on eyes closed. holding his chest. At one point it. appears that he's rocking back and forth. almost singing. And it looks like he's.

wearing the same bandana that Celeste. was pictured in previously. Do you know. what which one I'm talking about? There's a picture where it's like her. side profile from a party that was. posted on Instagram. Mhm. And she's. wearing a bandana. He's wearing the same. bandana. And yeah, and. I understand that hindsight is like a. huge thing for cases like this. But. there is a Tik Tok a comment on Tik Tok. This is before Celeste's body is found. in David's car. And it's a comment about. his After Life performance in Houston.

And the comment reads, "I wonder what. was on his mind. Did he really love the. song or did someone he loved die?". So they're saying like it just feels. like something happened. And this is. before Celeste's body is found. So this. is not hindsight of like, "Oh, we knew. it. He was This is his guilt showing. through." Which I'm saying these are. valid comments, but this is like truly. this person did not know. Mhm. Another. comment reads, "I think it's creepy to. see him crying performing like this and. he keeps looking into the crowd." So. originally before Celeste's body was.

found a lot of people were using his. Houston show as oh, this is David's I. made it moment. So you know how people. like to make edits of pop stars and. singers being like Yeah. >> when's their I made it moment because. he's looking out into the crowd, he's. crying, he's emotional. This is his. studio album being released. People are. commenting, "I think it's creepy because. he's looking into the crowd like this is. what I did this for." Because we now. know she's threatened to end his career. and ruin his life. It's almost as if. he's singing and crying the lyrics and. thinking about it in a way of like, "You. made me do this. Why did you make me do. this?" While also feeling justified of.

what he did because he gets to continue. to live his dreams. And this is again. not the netizen being like, "I agree. with him." But they're thinking like. this is what he's probably thinking. because he's sick and twisted. >> [music]. >> Mhm. During the show he brings his little. sister on stage with him. And it seems. like for the rest of the tour, he's. spending a lot of time with his family. Whether that be because he's on tour and. they want to support him, I'm sure. that's part of it. Whether that he. requested them be there with him as some. sort of emotional support, it's unclear. Who's in his family then? Uh I think his.

dad stayed back. His dad is an attorney. Yeah. It. Yeah, he works for Brown Rudnick, huge. law firm. His dad is a civil litigator. for. >> Dave's dad? >> Yeah, he's an attorney. What? >> Yeah, which is why a lot of people. thought that he was so silent from the. beginning because you would expect. someone his age that had been so. reckless thus far to maybe make a. reckless post online, but. it seems like he got advice from his dad. and shut up. Oh, that's crazy. I didn't know that.

Yeah, Brown Rudnick as well. So, huge. law firm, big law. And. mom was a teacher. I don't know if she. still is a teacher, but mom, brother, and sister are seen a lot on his TikToks. throughout this tour. Like going to Asia. with him. It's very eerie to know that David's. sister is probably. closer in age to Celeste than he was. I. mean, that's not insinuating anything. It's just netizens were saying, "Seeing. him around his sister, knowing that. Celeste was 11 when he started talking. to her, it just gives you an idea of how.

young 11 is." Yeah. April 26th, 2025, he. posts on X lyrics to one of his songs, "Where Did It Go Wrong?" And this is. very interesting because this is not a. song that is on his withered album. This. is a song back from 2024. So, he's just. like. I don't know if he's feeling something. about this song all of a sudden, and. it's suspected that Celeste's voice is. in the end of it. So, a lot of people. have been dissecting this one. Notable. lyrics include, "Where did it go wrong. with you? I don't belong with you. It's. a tragedy. I really thought you were.

meant for me. I guess you're not, and I. can't believe you. I really want to. leave you. How could you lie to me? Every kiss [music] put a cavity between. my lips. I really can't believe you. I I. want to see you. I've got to make up my. mind, but I'm wasting time. I might die. I don't want to die. You give me bad. luck. I can't take it no more. Baby, don't trip on me. Baby, why can't you. see? And I don't mean to sound. conceited, but I'm the reason you're. still breathing. I wish I never met you. I even second guessed you, but I was in. too deep. I can't leave. I couldn't let.

you walk away from everything. I thought. you were everything. You told me I was. special, girl, but that does not mean. anything to me. It don't mean anything. to me. And at the [music] end you hear. what sounds like Celeste's voice saying, "You were special, David." You're. special, David. When I say it sounds. like, it's not like a a murmured a. girl's voice, but it kind of sounds like. a like a hum. It's straight up a girl. saying, "You're special, David." It just. we don't know if it's Celeste, though it. does sound like her. Mhm.

This song is back from 2024. So, like I. said, this is not part of his new album. But, the caption just reads, "Three. different flows in 60 seconds. Man, I. love music.". >> [snorts]. >> Yeah. The next day he's back to posting about. the Withered album. By April 29th, he's. in Brooklyn performing again, bringing. his family on stage. April 30th, he's. just spamming on Twitter. Petals to. Thorns DK, happy indie alternative rock. summer, empty the clip and I'm in love. 11:00 p.m. 11:00 p.m. is a song. Now I. know who the OGs are. So, he's not even. home after this happened. He's like. doing a whole tour everywhere.

>> Yeah, he's like back and forth. Meanwhile, we don't know what's. No, because especially this time, we. know that the prosecutors believe that. on or about May 5th is when he. dismembered Celeste. So, between April. 23rd and May 5th, the 12 days, we don't. know where she was. And he's just re- He's just recording. music. He's not even seemingly busy. because he's like, "Oh, I'm going to. re-record one of my old songs that never. released called 11:00 p.m. Only the OGs. know it." And then he drops a. re-recording of him. And then he's like,

"Oh, wait. Actually, you guys told me. the vocals aren't so high. So, I'm going. to do it a little bit deeper." And then. he re-records it and posts it on. Twitter. He like keeps posting these on. Twitter. In the 12 days? Yeah. In. between the 12 days. Now, the very next. important day is the first week of May. It's a huge pivotal point for the. prosecution. They state in their brief. that May 1st, 2025, he gets a few Amazon. deliveries. Body bag, laundry bags, inflatable pool, and two chainsaws. They're all delivered under the name. Victoria Mendez. Now, there's a whole.

debate about whether or not David is. dumb enough to believe that the fake. name would throw investigators off. I. actually think he's dumber than that. I. tend not to believe that he was doing. this for investigators. I tend to. believe that he was so audacious that he. didn't think that he was going to get. caught at all. Because. if I'm not mistaken, I don't know many. people, um, especially maybe public. figures who order anything under their. names. So, I think that his Amazon account has. always been Victoria Mendez. Mhm. So, I.

don't even think this was like him. trying to be like, "Oh, I'm trying to be. smart, and no one's going to catch me.". I don't even think that that came across. his mind. Like, I think that he genuinely thought. no one would even look into Celeste. being gone. So, he orders these items with the name. Victoria Mendez. I think that a huge part of him felt. that because Celeste had been missing. for a minute and had gone missing. previously before, and. it didn't seem like there was a huge. police effort to find her, that he she's.

just a missing child, and he is the. David going on tour. I think that might. have been more close to his state of. mind, in my opinion. So, for most of the. first week of May, he's relatively quiet. on social media. Prosecutors believe. that May 5th, 2025, 12 days later, he. allegedly dismembers her body. The. belief is that he set up the inflatable. pool in the garage of this Hollywood. Hills home. There is a drainage point in. the center of the garage floor where he. could have gotten rid of any fluid. Now,

there's also debate on whether or not. this inflatable pool had been inflated. or not. So, because of the fact that we. believe or were led to believe through. this brief that he used the chainsaws, some people have been arguing about. whether there would be splatter on the. walls of the garage. And if that were. the case, which we've seen pictures of. the garage being released, not from the. police, but from the homeowner, there. doesn't seem to be any sort of like. visible blood splatter. Though, Luminol. is going to say something differently. So, but if you're using a chainsaw,

people are imagining that must have been. a lot of blood splatter. So, people are. thinking maybe he inflated the pool. There's going to be a lot more on the. pool in a second. But, the felony. complaint reads, "On or about May 5th, 2025, in the County of Los Angeles, the. crime of unlawful mutilation of human. remains in violation of health and. safety code was committed by David. Anthony Burke." Court documents read, "Moreover, defendant took horrifying. measures to destroy and discard the. victim's body after placing her body. into the blue inflatable pool to prevent. her blood from spilling out onto his. garage floor, defendant used a chainsaw. and perhaps other tools to cut off her.

limbs. Small blue plastic fragments were. found embedded in the victim's remains, which were collected by the LA County's. Medical Examiner's Department. The. fragments were analyzed by the LAPD's. Forensic Science Division Trace Analysis. Unit. An expert was able to make a. physical match from the blue fragments. found inside of Celeste to the blue. inflatable pool purchased by the. defendant in May of 2025. In order to. distance himself from the victim, he. amputated her left ring finger and pinky. fingers because her ring finger.

contained a tattoo of his name. Her. fingers have not been recovered. Defendant then placed her head and torso. into the cadaver bag he purchased. Mhm. Then he placed her limbs into a. garbage bag, which he deposited into the. front trunk. So, he put the garbage bags. of limbs first and then the cadaver bag. on top. For several weeks or possibly. months, defendant left the victim's body. to decompose inside his Tesla. That day of the alleged dismemberment, David apparently posts on social media. on his Instagram page a story. It shows. two pink skateboards. One of them is.

Kirby and the other one is Hello Kitty, which we know Celeste loved Hello Kitty. And he captions it, "Oh my god, chat, should I get?". Then a few days later, on May 8th, 2025, defendant returned [music] to the same. area in Santa Barbara County, leaving. his home at around 11:30 p.m. He. returned to the same area again on May. 31st, 2025. So, remember the day that he allegedly. killed Celeste, he goes to Santa. Barbara. Then he goes two more days. after the alleged dismemberment date. So, some people think that maybe he took. the shovel out there and he was trying.

to think of burying her entire body, or. maybe he just buried her fingers. Those. are speculations, obviously. But like, why did he go to Santa Barbara twice? We. don't know. Twice at this point, three. times in total. There's just a lot of. questions to this. All we know for sure, at least as of right now, is he. purchased these items, they were. delivered to his address. Celeste was. dismembered at some point. But why this date? Like, why May 5th? How did they settle on May 5th? Mhm. I mean, they keep it a little vague and. say on or about May 5th, but still, May.

5th is very precise. It's not the first. week of May. Mhm. Yeah. You know, but also, where was her body. for the 12 alleged days between him. allegedly killing her and then allegedly. dismembering her? More on this later. because it's a huge point of contention. Some people are saying she was put in a. freezer, like it's a whole thing. But a few days afterwards, May 13th, he's in Asia for his world tour. Starting in Malaysia, he brings his.

sister up on stage where he's singing. Here With Me, one of his most notable. songs. He continues to post videos of. him and his sister and even his mom. posting TikToks with the song After. Life. May 17th, he posted a TikTok in. cosplay and he's dancing along to his. own song and he's holding this pickaxe. and a katana. And he starts stabbing, like air. stabbing, while screaming out loud and. staring into the camera. Which would just be like a little over a. week after prosecutors believe Celeste. was dismembered. And to even be able to. go on camera as a joke after allegedly.

dismembering someone and to make. stabbing motions, netizens think to some. degree it seems like he gets off on. knowing that he's going to get away with. it. Some people think that he's. trying too hard. to almost hide in plain sight. Because maybe it's reverse psychology. Like you wouldn't think that a killer. would do this, so maybe he's trying to. get away with it by doing the things. that we don't think a killer would do. Some people think that he is a Ted Bundy. in the making. I mean, I think netizens'. reactions are just all over the place.

with this part. But he doesn't seem particularly. anxious. Yeah. And some people are saying like, "Would. he not want to project a soft image?". Like why wouldn't that be the plan? Like. he seems like the, you know, why. wouldn't he go this far? Yeah. The document continues. He lied to. friends, business associates, and others. who noticed the strong smell of decay in. and around his home and vehicle. July 7th. [music]. So, this is after the 4th of July party.

livestream. He orders a burn cage on. Amazon [music] to his house, again under. a fake name, and the plan was. >> What's a [music] burn cage? A burn cage, okay, so it's It doesn't. appear to be have been used, by the way, but it's a stainless steel container. that has these little pockets to let in. air. And you put a bunch of things that. you want to incinerate [music] in there. and then you light it on fire. Okay. So, it's just for you to get rid. of something? >> Mhm. Yeah. It's a burn cage. >> people usually get rid of?

I couldn't tell you. Okay. I would. imagine probably mulch, like. Mhm. Okay. >> not mulch, but yeah. Is it huge or I. would say it's big enough to fit. things of substantial size in there. It's not going to be like a commercial. burn cage. You can get them in different. sizes, but this one I would say is maybe. like a. from the pictures that the PI released. later on because the PI was hired by the. homeowner. We're going to get there in a. second, but maybe like a carry-on. suitcase size, but wider obviously,

maybe thicker. Okay. More uniform. Two days before ordering that, he's on. Tik Tok with a blue bob wig that a lot. of people when this case first broke out. speculated of being Celeste's wig. because she appears to have worn. something similar before. Then another. important date is July 29th. Prosecutors. allege that he, David, was the last. person to drive his Tesla July 29th. So, nobody drives the Tesla from July 29th. till like September. And they write, quote, "Before leaving on his concert. tour at the end of July, he parked his.

Tesla on the street around the corner. from his home." And he's on tour, he's. doing interviews, he's dropping the. deluxe. So, he's preparing for the. deluxe album withered withered. He posts. two more songs, bonus tracks for. withered. He's performing on stage. He. does an interview with Complex where he. mentions that his phone got stolen, and. he says, quote, "Yeah, I checked my. location on my phone this morning, and. it's in China getting dismembered. Tragic." Yeah, I checked my location on. my other phone this morning, it's in. China right now getting dismembered. So,

tragic. So, this is again after the date. of the alleged dismemberment. July and. August, he's heavily promoting all of. his new songs. And from July to. September, he's doing a lot of odd. things on social media. And even from. September up until his eventual arrest. in April, there are things that people. have been piecing together thinking that. he had this reviewing movie account on. Letterbox and was reviewing very. specific types of movies. There have. been people coming out to say, "Hey, look, I DM'd David," and he responded. back after Celeste's body was found when.

he was basically in hiding. These are. our DMs. And there's lots of theories. about what exactly he did. with What was his plan? I mean, I think. that's like a huge thing that people. have been discussing because it just. doesn't make sense. He was just going to. leave Celeste in his Tesla for how long? Until forever? And just leave it parked. on the street and do nothing? Like. people just don't understand what's. happening and I've tried to compile and. break down the Netizen theories into. very clear to understand theories that.

people have formulated. In the 4th of. July live stream that the Twitch. streamer Sakura was filming, there's a. moment So, the whole live stream, I'm. just going to give you some context. This is the part of the live stream that. people have been piecing together and. clipping and posting. It's gone viral. because a lot of people think that. there's clues in there, foreshadowing. There's just a lot. But, she is. primarily getting ready in one of. David's bathrooms. I don't think that. this is his primary bathroom. There were. a lot of people believing it was because. I watched like all 2 hours of it and it.

seems like a secondary bathroom because. at one point Sakura is looking for. Q-tips and Asia, who's David's friend, who's also getting ready with her for. this 4th of July party, is like, "Oh, I. think there's Q-tips in David's. bathroom.". Okay. Is there Q-tips in here? Q-tips? I heard there's Q-tips in. David's bathroom. So, this seems like maybe a guest bath. They're getting ready most of the time. and it's primarily just Sakura and Asia. Neo and David are kind of in and out of.

the bathroom. And then once they're done getting. ready, they get changed and Sakura. orders food to the house, which she. proceeds to eat in the bathroom. Now, a. lot of people have like picked up on. that and they're making about that. I. think it's just like a thing that. streamers do because they don't want to. set up too many frames. A lot of the. video, they're also very stressed about. doxing, of showing too much of the house where. people find out exactly where the house. is in the hills. So, maybe it's just. convenient. But, she has her camera set. up near the bathtub. She's sitting on. the ground. Neo comes in and is sitting. next to her. She eats. David apologizes.

for the smell and she's like, "Don't. worry about it. I also took a shit." Oh, yeah. David I apologized to her earlier. I had to let my bathroom smell like I. took a [ __ ] in there. I don't care. I just took a [ __ ] in. there. And then eventually, she leaves she leaves her phone and she. just leaves. Mhm. So she's like, "Oh, I. got to go do something." She leaves the. live stream. There's people still. watching. David and Neo are now standing. there and David Netizens say David.

starts looking a little concerned and. he's like, "Where did they go? Where did. they go?" And Neo responds, "Oh, they. went to the bathroom." And David looks. behind behind him where there's a water. closet in the bathroom, like a toilet in. there. He's like, "There's a toilet. right there." Entertain my shot. Oh, [ __ ] I got y'all. What's good, y'all? They're in the bathroom. But there's a. toilet right there. Yeah, but like Bob. We're not. And then David kind of blinks and he. walks out and you can hear him. instructing them which bathroom to use. All of us in here just hearing Pissing.

streams. No, no, go to the uh. Go to the what? >> [laughter]. >> Now, I don't necessarily think that. there. is a body in the house at that point cuz. that would be incredibly ballsy, but. maybe there's places where there could. be evidence of something is what most. Netizens believe. The prosecutor said. the body has been in the car. Yes, so it. doesn't seem like the body is in the. house, which some people were. speculating like, "Oh, what if he was. keeping her body in one of the rooms?" I.

think that would have been incredibly. ballsy. I don't think. ballsy, risky. I don't think that he. would have done that. Now, he walks out, instructs them on the specific bathroom, and throughout the stream you're going. to hear them reference a woman named. Celeste who was also there during the. live stream. Welcome, Celeste. Yes, Celeste is right. here, but she doesn't want to be in. stream cuz she's weird. But Celeste, a lot of things you think. you can say, don't say. And at first people thought this was. proof that a lot of live streamers knew. about Celeste, right? Because they're.

like, "Oh, Celeste is here, but she. doesn't want to be on camera." Neo keeps. saying like, "Celeste is here, but she. doesn't want to be on the stream.". People thought it was the Celeste, but. it's not because at this point she would. be deceased. Now, Celeste Herrera is the. one that they're talking about. And if. you remember the original two videos. that we made, there is an older Celeste, an of age Celeste, that was commonly. referred to as decoy Celeste. Netizens. felt like David brought this of age. Celeste into his life so that when. people ask about Celeste, he can say,

"Oh, you guys are getting confused. I. never dated this minor named Celeste. I. was dating this girl named Celeste, and. she's an adult." And some people say. that she even looks similar to the real. Celeste. Though, I don't know if that's. true. People think that this was his way. of causing confusion about who was. really with him at these concerts and at. these events. But, there's this very. interesting moment where David takes the. live stream camera. He's holding it. around like he's almost like a selfie. video, right? But, it's a live stream. And he turns to the side and shows. Celeste, who has not wanted to be on.

camera this entire time. And everyone's. been like, "Oh, Celeste is here, but she. doesn't want to be on camera. Celeste is. here, but she doesn't want to be on. camera." He picks it up and. intentionally shows her. At least in my. feeling, it feels intentional. Mhm. And. he goes, "Ooh, sorry." And she's like, "What the heck?". Ooh. Uh. Sorry. >> Excuse me. That was the end of the. >> Yeah. action? >> Yeah. But, it almost seems like he's. doing it to be like, "Oh, well, there's. a missing girl named Celeste that I have. ties to, so I'm showing everyone it's.

not that person." It's just a like a. really weird moment. >> Yeah. One of the girls, this is another. point of the live stream that has been. picked apart. One of the girls tells. David that he needs to get the bug spray. because there's little spiders. everywhere. To which he calmly responds, "Oh, for real?" They ask her, and she. responds that it's not the oval ones. David, you need to get bug spray. There's little spiders everywhere. That's what it sounds like she's saying. Now, some netizens believe that oval. ones she could be referencing maggots,

but I I don't know if that's like a. common way that someone would refer to. oval ones. Oh, it's bugs, but they're. not the oval one. I think it would be. very hard to not be able to clearly, distinctly differentiate between spiders. and maggots. Mhm. So, that's also weird. I guess she could be referring to. American house spiders, which are ov-. like a little more oval in shape. But, that's also weird to differentiate. Like, when you see spiders in someone's. house, you're not going to be like, "Oh, it's this subspecies of spiders, the. American house spider, that I'm finding.

in your house." So, what what do you. think why why they We don't know, but it. seems like there's lots of bugs in the. house, maybe even different types of. bugs. And you can hear someone saying. like, "Oh, there's, you know, a bug. spray near the staircase railing." So, it seems like there's bug spray readily. available. Now, I will say that spiders. are very attracted to decomposing. bodies. They're not attracted in the. sense that maggots are. Maggots will. actually feast off of decomposing flesh. Spiders feast off of maggots and flies.

So, they're not attracted to the body. itself, but they are predators of what. the body attracts. So, but I also know. that just from the livestream footage. and clips, he seems like he likes to. live in disarray. There's food and trash. everywhere, so I just I don't know. Then. at one point, people say that you can. hear David and Neo having a separate. conversation in the background. And this. is where people point out finger a lot. at Neo, but. Neo, it sounds like he's saying, "Oh, I. forgot." And it sounds like David is.

saying something like, "Oh, you forgot. about the car, huh? Wow, son.". Now, some people are insinuating that. this is, "Oh, Neo knows that he needs to. move the Tesla." And he forgot to move. the Tesla, and David is upset, and this. is maybe when they first started moving. the Tesla. But, I will say it maybe. could also be referencing an Uber. because pretty quickly after that. conversation they go outside and get. into a car to go to the 4th of July. party. So, it could be that. And I yeah,

I don't know. Now, there's another part. that even people like Nancy Grace have. been showing on her channel which it's. Asia and Sakura are in the bathroom. getting ready. And in the background you. can hear the other Celeste talking and. it sounds they put subtitles, right? And. it's like, "Oh, what happened to the. other Celeste?" "We killed her.". >> [snorts]. >> It's kind of giving Harley Quinn. Okay. Aw, cute.

I like it. And then wait, what is this? I don't think at all that that's what. they're saying because first of all, you. cannot I mean, if someone says that they. can matter of fact for certain say this. is what they're saying, I think they're. lying because you really cannot decipher. anything. I think with added subtitles. our brain does the weird thing where. we're like, "Oh, yeah, totally that's. what I hear." But you really cannot hear. it. And second of all, I don't think. that they're that dumb. I think David is. dumb. I don't think he's that dumb. because he does make effort to hide.

this. Yeah. So, he's not going to. suddenly be like, "You know what. everyone, let me just tell you what. happened." Then August 12th, 2025, less. than a month before Celeste body is. found, he posts that he made a new song. about like 5 minutes ago and he thinks. it's beautiful. So, he posts it on. Twitter and again, I think that this is. relevant because I do believe in a lot. of legal experts believe that his lyrics. are going to be they're going to try to. bring it into court. I don't know if. they're going to get away with it in the. state of California. I think that Lil. Durk there's something happening with. another musician Lil Durk who Brian.

Steel is representing. if you guys remember him from Young. Thug, Sean Combs, but. the it this has been like a huge thing. all across the states of trying to get. lyrics in. But this is written after the. alleged killing and dismemberment. So, it's maybe holds even more importance, but the song is called favorite and it. has been started making its rounds as. people think that it sounds like Celeste. point of view in their relationship. The. lyrics read, can you feel the weight on. you? I'm running away from you. I'm. hiding my face from you. I needed some.

space from you. I'm bleeding out and my. blood stained your clothes. Would you. let me die on you? Again, this is a song. that he allegedly wrote four months. after allegedly killing Celeste. He. could have lied about it. He could have. written it two years ago, right? But. this is what he claims. The rest of the. lyrics read, I can travel all night to. you no matter the distance. I'm still. waiting for the day when I become your. favorite, but I can see it on your face. You're in love with my replacement. Woah. Then August 15th, 2025, he writes.

two new songs, home and friends are on. my archive. Now, these are not bonus. tracks to withered. These are not on the. deluxe album. Netizens think that this. time frame of writing and releasing. songs is again, could be more heavily. analyzed because this is maybe his. psyche, maybe his creative expression. after the killing. Notable lyrics to. home read, no matter where I go, you. still feel like home. Can't you see that. I'm in pain? When I needed you the most, I started writing songs about you. Wish.

I had my arms around you. I was lost. until I found you. Sometimes I feel like. I'm drowning. Every single day I'm. trying to find my peace, but I can't. cope. Notable lyrics for friends. include, baby, would you lie for me? Would you die for me? Would you put. yourself on the front line for me? Do it. all, but don't you dare say goodbye to. me. There is a Tik Tok in August of. David showing off a cut finger, which. everyone at the time assumed it to be. anime related. However, now people are. wondering if this is Celeste real. finger, which I don't think is true at. all. It actually does look like the.

finger prop of one of the the famous. like the Sukuna finger props. It's a. very famous anime. It's like a fake. anime finger, but the Sukuna finger. prop, people have been now dissecting. the meaning of it because it's from. Jujutsu Kaisen. I've never seen it or. read it, but it's. they have Sukuna fingers in the series. where it Sukuna fingers are the severed. mummified remains of the king of curses. So the king of curses decided that he. was going to divvy up his souls into 20. of his severed fingers and make them.

these indestructible cursed objects. And. when you collect all 20 of them, he can. be like reincarnated or something like. that. The fingers are volatile objects. that attract other cursed spirits. You. can't destroy a finger. You can try to. suppress it. You can eat the finger, but. that would lead you to be coming a. finger vessel, a soul vessel. There's. like a whole lot to this that I think it. would take me quite a bit of time to. really dive into accurately, though I'm. not sure it really even holds much. importance to the case. Just some needed. context if you're going into the thick.

trenches of this internet discourse for. this case. People think that maybe he. kept the finger because it represents a. soul and he seems like the type and I'm. not saying that this is true, but he. seems like the type to believe in the. Illuminati and sacrifices and. self-importance of oh, if I keep this, it'll protect me from getting caught. But I don't think it's the finger. But. there is a finger in that Tik Tok. September 4th, 2025, he announces his. Crocs ad on Twitter. This is huge.

September 7th, 2025, he posts on Twitter. Withered Deluxe Marcescence out [music]. September 19th featuring Malcolm Todd, Cashy, Hyunjun, Julian Wolf, Han and. Bang, and Real Like K. A lot of people. have been dissecting the meaning of. marcescence, which is the word that. describes the phenomenon where during. the winter, some trees will hold on to. their withered leaves. So most trees. will shed all their leaves until they're. just branches, but there are some trees. that won't. They'll just like hold on to. the dead shriveled up leaves. And.

throughout the winter, it just becomes. more and more tattered by the elements. and like no no one knows why the trees. do this. People who study trees don't. know why the trees do this. It could be. that they shed the leaves later in. spring, so the new leaves come out and. the old leaves eventually fall in. spring, not winter. And that new the new. dropping of the old leaves becomes. nutrition for the tree spring. So, it's. like they're waiting for to use it in. spring if they're in an area where. there's not as much nutrients in the. soil. It's like a whole thing. Some. people think, "Oh, it's because it. prevents deer from scavenging on the.

tree if there's withered old leaves on. it during the wintertime when the tree. is like the most vulnerable. So, there's like a whole lot of. theories. It's like a phenomenon, right? But the fact that it's people think it's. a weird thing to name the deluxe album. I see. >> Because it's also not a common word. Yeah, yeah. >> It's also not a common phenomenon that. really anybody knew about unless you. have a really strong liking for trees. And for the past 7 months, so after. that, Celeste's body is found before his. deluxe album really drops. And for the.

past 7 months, David has been free. And. nobody's really heard from him. There. are rumors that he was watching movies. with a letterbox account. Others are. saying that he was on Fortnite, but. nobody really knew where he was or what. he was doing. There are alleged DMs. between him and another artist by the. name of Caden, with Caden DMing David. October 15th, 2025. A month after. Celeste's body is found in David's car. So, Caden released these to a TikToker. and was like, "Yeah, I was talking to. him." And like, I don't know why Caden.

is even messaging David, but he messages. David in October. Celeste's body has. been found. I pray it's all just. misinformation. The internet sucks. To. which David responds, "Really does. So. much twisted and fake. [music]. I'm sorry, dude. God bless you, twin. Keep going with your music and don't. stop for nothing." That's David. [music]. "Thank you, gang. I'll never forget you. helped me so much with the band lab. [ __ ] Big ins bro hope you're staying. safe for real, man. Love you." Then. notably, December 18th, 2025, he. messages David once more writing, "I.

know you're innocent, bro, but like why. can't the world know? These people are. stupid. I do think that Kaden Neese has. since changed his mind up about all of. this, but But what even prompted for him. to say that? >> Yeah, and I don't think these DMs are. doing him any favors. David responds, "Haha, with all. humility, I would phrase it as mere. ignorance rather than unintelligence. Trust in God, my friend. How is your. journey into faith going?" Yet, David. starts recommending him certain verses. He says that after reading all like the. books that cover all of Jesus' life up.

until his death, quote, "Then after. that, read Psalms and Proverbs, which is. basically the motivational part of the. Bible that teaches you how to pray. Bible is confusing, but if you read it. in that order, it starts to make sense. Reading it in chronological order is. tricky, lmao. Damn, dude, thank you.". Bro, of course, my goat. When people. stop stalking my Instagram followers to. make conspiracy theories, I got to. follow you back, crying emoji. Which, I. mean, he seems like he's If these are. real and legitimate, it seems like he. is, to some degree, keeping up with all.

of the internet discourse about him, obviously. Later in January, they're. still talking and discussing movies, which David responds, "Prestige and Gone. Girl, insanely frustrating endings. Hey, sometimes those are the best endings to. a story. I really liked how Twinless. ended." So, these are all movies that. people have been breaking down of. They'll have like some sort of murderous. intent to them, but I don't necessarily. know if they're going to hold any value. But, later in March, Kaden wishes David. a happy birthday, to which he responds, "Thank you, brother." A month later, David is arrested. But, the fact that.

he's still responding to this person on. Instagram DMs, he's checking his. Instagram account, he's likely reading. what's been happening in the news cycle. involving him. Like, what is he doing? And a big question in all of this is, what the hell was his original plan to. even begin with? He allegedly killed. Celeste, and then what? He allegedly. goes through with the very gruesome and. dangerous task of dismembering her body. for the purpose of concealment, all to. just leave her in his car that he parks. outside his rental house in a city like. LA where street cleaning schedules, parking tickets, towing is [ __ ].

rampant. Like it while he goes out on. tour, it doesn't make any sense. Which. is not to say that he didn't do it, but. rather if he did, what's the plan? What's the plan? Eventually, it would. come back to him because Celeste remains. even if they weren't found, at some. point, they would have looked into him, no? So, the brief, the preliminary brief. that the prosecutors dropped, they. detail another thing that's happened. They believe that David met Celeste back. in January of 2022, which is when she. would have been 11. He starts allegedly. grooming her, violating her November of.

2023. And I will say that a lot of. people have been using the word. relationship in reference to what was. happening even though charges have been. filed. I think that's just a legal. thing. I think because a lot of people. are trying to stay as close to quoting. the prosecutor's brief to legally. protect themselves, but I do understand. that relationship is not exactly the. word that I would personally use. But. anyway, he starts allegedly grooming and. violating Celeste November of 2023. She's 13, he's 18. [music].

Within months of what could be, again, grooming, she goes missing. Her family. report her missing February and April of. 2024. So, this is almost like exactly a. year before she passes. [music] They. report this to the Riverside County. Sheriff's Department, so not the LAPD, because that's where Celeste lives. And. RCSD, they pull up Celeste's phone. records and notice that she's been. communicating with a very specific. [music] number. They call it, it's. David. During this call, he's just. informing the officers, "I probably.

spoke to her last like February 13th, 14th, like Valentine's [music] Day." But. he states that he was not aware that. she's a minor, let alone the fact that. she's been reported missing. So, back in. 2024, he's like, "I didn't know she was. a minor." Wow. RCSD tell him, "Okay, well, we don't care cuz we're going to. send the Los Angeles Sheriff's. Department to your house because that's. just what we have to do." The report. reads that the LASD, the Sheriff. Department, comes to the house at around. 8:15 p.m. This is the previous rental. house. I don't know if you care to know. this, but it's not the one where her.

body was found outside, right? Letting David know, they're like, "Hey, we're looking for a 13-year-old girl, a. runaway." That's how they describe her. in the documents. And he's claiming, "I. had no idea she was 13. I had no idea. she was a minor. I only met her one time. back in November of last year in 2023. So, like, I talked to her last maybe. like a few days ago, but I have not seen. her. Like, I haven't seen her since I. met her one time." But, for whatever. reason, David is like, "Hey, officers,

do you want to see a picture of. Celeste?" And out of all the possible. photos, and again, the document does not. list what year, if it was photo like if. it was photoshopped, but he just like. pulls up a yearbook photo of Celeste. Now, I think that this is a yearbook. photo that does not show the graduating. class or like what age she is cuz. clearly that would not line up with his. lie of like, "I didn't know she was 13.". But, he just shows them the yearbook. photo. Very odd photo. And also, why. would you have somebody's yearbook photo. after you just met them one time? Yeah, that's [ __ ] weird. Nevertheless, the.

court document reads, "Although he. claimed to be unaware of where the. victim was at the time, she returned. home 2 days later." So, after 2 days. after the LA Sheriff's Department goes. to his house, she goes back home, which. seems very convenient. And if there was. any grace for David, it seems like it. ends here because court documents read, "Despite being informed by law. enforcement the victim was only 13, defendant continued to pursue her." So, this is like the grace would end here. The whole I didn't know her age lie. would end here. And that's the first. time she goes missing, which is kind of.

deplorable when you think that she goes. missing again in April of 2025 and the. police never went to go check up on. David before her body is found. Like, they never went to go question him. Court document states, "Throughout 2024, the victim spent a significant amount of. time with defendant, including summer. weekends at his home in the Hollywood. Hills, and traveling with him to Las. Vegas, London, and Texas to meet his. family. Yeah, more on that later. More. on London and Texas are going to be very. important.

But sometime November 2024, investigators put together through their. text messages that they keep breaking. up. Like they end up in that very It's. like a rough area. And breaking up is. obviously not the correct word, but you. get what I'm saying. They're still. communicating. But quote, "Text messages. suggest they also continued to have. sexual relations, but it just seems very. rocky. And there's clearly a lot of. people that know about this too, because. when Celeste goes missing the first time. in 2024 and police had shown up to. David's house, it said that her parents.

took away her phone when she comes back. So the first time she goes missing a. year before her death, she comes back. home, they take away her phone. But. according to court documents, defendant. drove to Lake Elsinore and paid a junior. high school student in the victim's. class a thousand dollars to give the. victim a cell phone defendant purchased. so they could stay in contact. Do you. guys remember the photo of David in Lake. Elsinore? Yes. With like a bunch of. kids? That's it. >> People think it's that. Now, there's no. confirmation because people haven't I. mean the prosecutors probably have. confirmation, but he was like allegedly. giving these young kids Raising Cane's.

and money. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. See, when I That was at first you were. like, "Okay, we don't know what really. is happening." But knowing this, it. feels even worse. >> Yeah, yeah. It just seems like a lot of. people knew what was going on. Even the. teacher that came out. Remember the. teacher was like, "Oh yeah, I taught. her." And then she met this rapper in. LA. Those are his words. He came and got. her, she ran away from home, she was. gone for like a month, the cops found. her in Hollywood, brought her back to. our school, she came back to our school, kind of, you know, told people the. story, she disappeared again. Like these.

are his direct quotes. She's been. missing since I taught her. So, when I. taught her, she met this dude on social. media. He was a rapper in LA. He came. and got her, she ran away from home. She. was gone for like a month. The cops found her in Hollywood, brought. her back to our school. She came back to. our school, kind of told people this. story. She disappeared again. Again, this just goes to show a lot of people. knew what was going on to some degree. And then remember, the February 26th, 2024, there was a comment left on. David's TikTok that read, "Waiting for.

LAPD to get your ass for messing with a. 13-year-old girl." Mhm. This was around. the time that she goes missing the first. time. Then on Discord, there was a. comment that was from August of 2024. that reads, "Drop the one with the. missing girl, Celeste Rivas Hernandez.". In reference to the song. Netizens think. that either the kids at Celeste's school. knew about it and were blackmailing him. because that seems to be a huge theory, or that he was paying kids to buy a. phone for Celeste and giving them money. to keep quiet so that he could continue. talking to her. This just doesn't seem. like a very well-kept secret what he was. doing to Celeste. It seems like a lot of.

people to some degree had some sort of. inkling of what was happening. So, what. was the plan? It makes such little sense. that people have started to circulate. conspiracies online David didn't get rid. of Celeste's remains because he was. keeping her as a trophy to live out some. sort of sick fantasy of having a. sacrifice for fame, which I don't think. is the case, but I will briefly cover. some of the discourse. A lot of it stems. from a manga. David mentioned in an. interview previously that he likes this. manga where there's a detective who is. investigating a string of murders. He's.

committing those murders. He just. doesn't know it yet. So, he's committing. the murders and then he's investigating. it and based off the description that. manga seems to be MPD Psycho, Multiple. Personality Disorder Psycho, which I. mean, obviously, the name is problematic. in and of itself, but it's about a. detective who is investigating a serial. killer who has a penchant for. dismembering their victims. That is. their typical MO. The serial killer. eventually sends the detective an ice. box with another victim's torso and. head. So, the limbs have been amputated.

The legs and arms are gone. Just the. torso and head, which is I guess people. are saying it's equating to how Celeste. similarly found the detective. Opens it. up, it's his girlfriend who is still. somehow alive during all of this. The. detective hunts down the killer, kills. him, and this is where he develops DID. He serves his time in prison, he's. released, but then he realizes that that. was him all along. It's just like this. very complicated multi-seasonal show. manga. He starts working for this PI. company where he realizes that on his.

left eye there's this barcode that has. been tattooed on under the eyelid. He. learns that there's this whole. organization that tattoos the left eyes. of serial killers, which is how he found. out that he must have killed before. That leads him to believe that maybe. he's always had alters since his. childhood. In the anime, the left eye, known as the barcode, is almost the. identifying soul of the person. That has. been a big point of contention for. netizens, and just to give you context, when they found Celeste's head, the. autopsy read, "The head is partially. skeletonized with an absent left eye.".

The right eye is still there. Now, side. note, some believe the left eye as being. intentionally gone. Cuz in the autopsy, it says that the left eye is absent. It. doesn't say that it was partially. consumed or that it had liquefied. Um. that has led a lot of people, including. even big public figures like Nancy. Grace, to speculate that that eye was. intentionally taken. I will say it is. known that during decomposition the eyes. can collapse inside the sockets, and. there's multiple different species and. types of insects with high insect. activity found in the body bag. So, I.

will say it seems highly likely that it. was just fully consumed by maggots. But. some people have been using that element. to bolster the theory that maybe he was. recreating this manga when he allegedly. killed Celeste. Because he does, I will. say he does seem heavily interested in. Japanese culture and manga. He even had. his own alter ego he called Itami that. we talked about in the previous. episodes. In an interview, he talks. about how Itami is the Japanese word for. pain. It's the villain of his album. He's the one making me withered and feel. all these emotions like grief and.

confusion. He's the one that is weaving. his way into my relationships and. ruining them and inducing trauma and. things like that. You see him in the. music videos and stuff, so he's. basically the agent of chaos in this. scenario. So, is it Tommy attached to. this album? And that's Japanese for. pain. Absolutely. Yeah, Itami is the the. villain of this album. He's the one that. is weaving his way into my relationships. and ruining them and inducing trauma and. things like that. You see him in the. music videos and stuff, so he's. basically the agent of chaos in this. scenario. Which in a previous interview he states.

that Itami is a character that he has. been ideating on for a really long time. The story of the manga went like I was a. detective and there was an evil version. of myself that would kind of come out at. random moments, kind of like Fight Club. with Tyler Durden. And [snorts] he would commit the crimes. that I would have to solve as the. detective. Basically ripping off MPD. Psycho. So, like when I was a detective. I'd be solving murders that I'm. committing myself. Netizens think that. he might have been too into it. And. again, this doesn't mean that he doesn't. know right from wrong, but these are.

just some coincidences I guess people. have been picking up. I don't personally. subscribe to this whole like sacrifice. theory, but I think it's just up for. debate. The last concert before her body. is found, he's also seen wearing a 97. shirt on stage. 97 being September 7th, which is Celeste's birthday. Could be a. coincidence, but netizens say that he. likes the meaning of numbers, uses the. number four in his name, which means. dead, [music] but Oh, is that why? I. don't know. He kind of insinuated in. previous interviews that he does it to.

be unique. Like he just thought it was. cool, but some people are using it as. like, "See, he really cares about. numbers. So, he's wearing this 97 shirt, it must have meant something." In an. interview that's released later in May, he's asked, you know, as for if he would. do anything differently about with his. album, heartbreak, experiencing. heartbreak, writing through it. He. responds, "Everything, especially the. mistakes in the music that I made and. all the artistic flaws that I've had in. the process of me building a great album. have been important and kind of needed. for this entire process. So, I wouldn't. give myself any other advice than just.

Yeah, I wouldn't change anything because. if I did, then it wouldn't be an album. There would be no progression and any. evolution and maturity. So, yeah, keep. everything the same. It seems like this. is after he allegedly killed Celeste. So, he's saying I would keep everything. the same, which isn't really necessarily. an admission of guilt, but it's just an. interesting thing to note. Then there's. the issue with the two fingers being. missing. So, the two fingers being. missing, I've seen this theory circulate. quite frequently, is Well, the left ring. finger, police believe prosecutors.

believe that the David tattoo was on. Celeste's left ring finger. Now, I will. say it would be very tricky for him to. just cut the ring finger. So, that's. probably why the pinky is also missing. But people have kind of taken this and. made it something bigger, something that. it's the Japanese tradition of atonement. and remorse for the pinky finger. It's. dated back to the Yakuza days. So, back. then when the Yakuzas were heavily. around, they would cut off a tip of. their own pinky as atonement, as. remorse. It's almost like you're This is.

how you ask for forgiveness. Or when. there were Yakuza wars, they would cut. off the remaining people who are now. going into their Yakuza. So, like let's. say Yakuza A takes over Yakuza B, members of Yakuza B would have their. pinky finger taken off because it's very. hard to hold a a sword, a katana, if you. have your pinky finger chopped or like. severed because it it'll slip out when. you're fighting. But I don't know. I. mean, I think that it genuinely just. seems like logistically it would be very. hard to take the ring finger without the.

pinky finger, so he just took it both. It might be easier that way. But where. is it? We don't know. If he did keep the. fingers as a trophy, wouldn't the police. have found them? Would he dispose of. them after the body was found? But that. would be very risky cuz I'm sure the. police are watching his every move. Was. it before the body was found? And if. then, is it in Santa Barbara? One person. writes, "The current theory that David. kept Celeste's two fingers as a trophy. makes me hesitate. I work in medical. psych. He just sounds like a. narcissistic kid, not a genius. I. honestly think he took them to Santa. Barbara and launched them off a cliff or.

into the woods. That's it. I think his. thought process was, now no one will. know we knew each other because he's a. complete [ __ ] not a mastermind. People want him to be this deep. calculating killer. His lyrics were all. the same and they were basic. The way he. spoke in interviews sounded like a high. schooler who just discovered new words. he could use. He's not that guy. And. honestly, if he actually kept them as a. trophy, we would already know because at. some point in some video they'd be. sitting in the background or hinted at. because any attention is good attention. to someone like him and he can't help. himself. He's not intelligent. He's just. a [ __ ] who thought he could get away. with it. So, if he's not keeping.

Celeste's remains as a sacrifice or some. sort of sick trophy, what what was his. plan? One person theorizes, I think he. put her body in his trunk intending to. dispose of it, but after the nasty work. of dismembering, >> [music]. >> her being in the trunk felt gone enough. that avoidance kicked in. He meant to. dispose of her, but at any given moment. it was easier to just pretend the. problem didn't exist. He had other cars. to drive, plenty of friends and. activities to distract [music] him. Maybe he hadn't settled on a spot he. felt confident about. Plus, once the.

body is out of his hands, he can't. control the situation. A random body out. in the woods or in the desert dug up by. animals may not be reported in the news. and he may have no idea she's been. found. In his trunk, he stays in. control, or so he thinks. Days turns. into weeks, turns into months, and then. nothing bad happens, just a few parking. tickets, no big deal. And they haven't. towed the car yet. Why would they now? The murder victim in it becomes easier. to ignore each day, especially with the. album dropping and the upcoming tour to. think about. The smell isn't so bad, right? People probably think it's road.

kill somewhere before the breeze carries. it away, right? One person comments. about the smell, "I don't know. I. smelled a dead body after just a few. days. It was summer in a hot apartment. and I had to throw out my clothes and. scrub myself raw in the shower because. that [ __ ] permeates your nostrils. We. also don't know when and body was moved. to the car. The prosecutors hint at the. fact that they think the body has been. in the car since dismemberment. But a. lot of people just don't understand how. that's feasible in any sense of the. word. When was the body moved to the. car? Is it true? Because August 27th, 2026, by this point it would have. already had multiple hot days in Los.

Angeles. Parking enforcement had chalked. the car. Do you remember that? Mhm. Mhm. They had come out and they chalked where. the car was positioned, and there was no. odor complaint. And like the parking. enforcement officer was close enough to. mark tire positions on August 27th, but. apparently they didn't report any sort. of smell. By September 8th, the smell. triggers a police call? Details after a. body was found inside a car at a. Hollywood tow lot today. There's no. immediate information about the identity. of the person found inside. They just. don't understand how she was kept in.

that trunk for that long and how nobody. could even move the car, how nobody. smelled it before and called the police, and then suddenly it goes to the tow. yard and now there's flies. Like there. weren't flies circling the car before. It just doesn't make sense to a lot of. people. Even when they're towing the. car, wouldn't the tow truck driver sense. it first? Unless maybe there was just. like a random heat wave, but even that. doesn't really make a whole lot of. sense. Some people think that he. actually placed her in the trunk. purposely to [music] try and speed up. decomposition, and that goes back to the.

burn cage. The burn cage that he. ordered, it seems that he kept it still. in the box according to the PI. So why. didn't he use the burn cage? Some people. think that he was waiting for her to. decompose because it would just be. easier to try and burn the human bones. into ash. Now, some people think, no, he. got the burn cage and then he realized. he couldn't use the burn cage because. burn cages require very specific. outlets. So that was like their whole. argument of like, I've worked with burn. cages. Like you can't just plug it up. into a standard 120-volt home outlet. I.

will say the specific burn cage he got. is not even power generated. Mhm. So you. It's like a steel containment box. You. put in all your rubbish, you light it on. fire, and then you just wait until it. burns out, or you have a hose and you. hose it down. So, he wouldn't need any. sort of electrical power. Or maybe he. just realized burning anything in the. Hollywood Hills would instantly cause a. lot of attraction and attention, and the. firefighters would come immediately. I. don't know. One comment reads, "The fact. that the [ __ ] pool was still in his. house is the final piece of evidence I. need to know that he simply was a.

dumbass. No longer maybe he had a plan. and ran out of time. Nope, just plain. stupid. That could have been thrown out. and long gone in a landfill, yet the. idiot kept it." Yeah, there's been a lot. of speculation about that because people. are arguing, "Well, if you throw out the. entire inflatable pool, it's just very difficult. Someone's. going to see it. They're going to notice. blood on it." Other people are saying, "He had a lot of time. He could have. slowly cut the pool into small shreds, not shreds, but small pieces, and then. slowly put those pieces in his trash,

and then eventually they would have. ended up in the landfill." Others are. saying, "Maybe that's not possible.". Yeah, it sounded like he has a lot of. time, but also he doesn't have a lot of. time. Yeah, he has a lot of enough time. to hang out and relax here and there, but he is on tour a lot. He does have a. lot of contractually obligated things. that I think he must do. Even, you know, the live stream the day after killing. Celeste. I think one of the things is. some people think that it's him showing. off to the world like, "Hey, I'm just.

going to live stream as normal." I. actually think that he's probably. contractually obligated to live stream. If he was releasing some sort of. Fortnite locker, and he was the whole. point of the story was he started as a. Fortnite streamer. Mhm. Yeah, or these are probably already. pre-planned. >> Yeah. Right? So, canceling would be more. suspicious, maybe. >> So, I mean, he has time, he doesn't have. a lot of time. I don't know. It's just. it's odd. I think a lot of months had. gone by, but I I don't know what's going. on. Some people are really confused why.

David left Celeste's head and torso. inside the body bag, and then left the. rest of her limbs inside of a trash bag. underneath, whereas he could have placed. the limbs in the body bag as well, or at. least place the trash bag inside the. body bag, but maybe it was the. confinement of the front trunk. The. autopsy notes that she was liquefied, which the body bag seems to have kept. the liquids in. There's also debate. about the PI that was hired by the. homeowner, and I'm going to go and like. do a whole deep dive into him in a. second, but he went into the garage, and. he's just really confused.

>> tell me where is Where did this PI come. from? What part of the timeline is that? So, in right after Celeste Body is. found, the homeowners, because that. house was a rental home in the Hollywood. Hills. The homeowners are so taken aback. because they didn't know David was. living in their house. The home was. leased under David's manager's name. So, they're like, I thought a guy named Josh. Marshall was living in my house. Why the. [ __ ] is this guy named David living in. my house? And they found a body in his. car. I didn't even know he was living in. our house. The homeowners have young. kids. They decide, I just this is so.

stressful. We don't even live in the. state. We're going to hire this private. investigator, and we just want to know. exactly who's been in the house, what's. been going on in the house. Like, we. just want answers because if we ever go. back to LA with our children, like, we. don't want to stay in this house. Like, we don't know what's going on. We don't know. So, they hire this. private investigator, and he had access. to the house almost immediately after. the police searched it. David quickly. moved out, obviously, right after that. He moved, I guess, to that house in the. Hollywood Hills, but the police took. pieces of evidence, but they also left a.

lot of things. David also left a lot of. things. They left a lot of furniture. David left some SD cards that the PI has. been going through. There's been nothing. particularly damning except there are. some photos of Celeste, like, when they. went to what appears to be Santa Barbara. to take pictures. It's like a very. scenic place. Yeah, there's The last. time that they were taking pictures. together was like in January. There's a. little bit of like small nuggets the PI. has been releasing. He's been doing his. own research. Some people don't really. like this PI because he is pretty vocal. with pointing the fingers at people.

Really? >> Yeah, some might say with reckless. abandon. Some might say he's just. passionate and he's keeping this in the. news. I don't know, I guess that's up. for you to decide, but he has been hired. and he released pictures of inside the. garage and that's how we know the exact. birdcage. The prosecutors just said. birdcage. The PI actually released. pictures of this birdcage months ago, but nobody knew what was going on. He. was just like, "Hey guys, I found a. birdcage in the garage and chainsaw." He. found a chainsaw as well. There was no, obviously, tissue or anything on there. It was just like chainsaw a packaging.

It was uh it was in the garage and um. you know, it had not been used. Uh it. still had the uh protective uh. shield over the over the chain itself. But, you know, there it is with a. birdcage and you got to wonder what this. plan was. >> So, the weapon was not found, right? I think the police probably took it. Yeah. So, he's like, "I found this and I. found the birdcage and I just can't. comprehend why David would need it. because this is a rental home. He's not. fixing anything up. He's not doing.

landscaping. Like, this is Why would he. need these things?" Nobody knew until. the prosecutor's brief came out. Mhm. So, that's how we know the exact brand. of the birdcage. Now, the big thing that. the PI has been saying is he just. doesn't understand because once this. prosecutor brief drops, it's like, "Oh, he did this in the garage with. inflatable pool." That's literally what. the prosecutors have told us. The PI is. saying, "When you guys came in and. searched the house, I mean, you did not. crime scene the [ __ ] out of this place.

Like, I they did some luminal tests, but. it didn't seem like this massive. operation where a full dismemberment. took place in the garage and you guys. are locking everything down. Like, you. guys were pretty in and out quick." He's. also saying the garage is two-stories. tall. If there's any sort of splatter, that that would be really difficult for. David to clean and David doesn't look. like a good cleaner. On top of that, the. floor of the garage is like brick. It's like the craziest garage floor I've. ever seen in my life. It's like the side. of a house. It's brick. There's so much. grout, there's so much brick. >> Oh, so it's hard to clean. >> Yeah, so he's like, I just don't.

understand how this happened in the. garage. If it happened in this garage, it has like 15-ft ceilings. It's It's. two stories high, that that garage. To. clean that up would be a mammoth And. there was no evidence of like cleaning. supplies bought or anything like that. No. The PI has been saying, I think he. killed her in Santa Barbara. I think he. did this in Santa So, there's lots of um. What? Which a lot of people are like, maybe he shouldn't put out these crazy. theories. So, there's debate about that. There's a debate about everything in. this case. Like, one sentence is 20.

debates. >> So, they didn't do their own testing in. the um garage to see if there's any. blood. >> Yeah, at least not that I know of, but. maybe you guys can correct me if I'm. wrong. So, that's where a lot of the. whole theory of, okay, well, maybe he. inflated the pool because Oh, there's. been another thing. People have kept. calling it a kiddie pool. We've no idea. if that's true. In fact, it seems like. it was not a kiddie pool. The prosecutor said inflatable blue. pool, but everybody has been running. with kiddie pool for whatever reason. I.

guess it's a better title. I guess it's. a better clickbait, but it seems like it. was like a full-size pool. >> Mm. So, the size difference. Yeah, size. difference, and then size difference is. kind of important. So, it could have. been inflated, and then a chainsaw. The. chainsaw has been a huge point of. contention. One Emmy states that a. regular handsaw would probably be a lot. better. Like, you might just get a. little bit of tissue, you're going to. have some blood, but chainsaws are going. to sling actual tissue everywhere. So, the idea that this had to be cleaned up.

completely, there's no way. No way under. God's green heaven that you're going to. be able to clean up every bit of tissue. deposition that there is. you might. think you've gotten it, but once the. cops get in there and they have enough. time, they're going to collect. something. I did some research into it. because all the Emmys are say like. former It's like news, Oh, we're here. with a former forensic expert, and. they're all like, No, a chainsaw would. have gotten blood everywhere. So, I'm. like, Okay, this doesn't make sense. If. David cleaned it, I don't think he's. cleaning it alone." So, that's where I. went down this whole rabbit hole and. apparently, there's a whole case about. it. A bit of a morbid test was done back.

in 2009. There was a study published in. the Journal of Forensic Science where. there was a real investigation into a. woman who had been taken apart by a. small electric chainsaw, a small one. And there were multiple questions that. the investigators had because the. investigators, they found such little. blood splatter, which didn't make sense. And everybody's mind, according to the. movies, when you think of people with. chainsaws, everything's splattering. everywhere. The investigators were so. puzzled by this, it led to a study where. forensic pathologist dismembered two.

very large deceased pigs with small. electric chainsaws under controlled. conditions and they found that depending. on how you hold the chainsaw parallel to. the floor, very little splatter occurs. actually. Interesting. [music] Another. misconception is that the chainsaw would. get jammed, which doesn't seem to be the. case even with the tiny electric. chainsaws with the pigs. So, those were. the findings that they had that even the. small ones can cut through large. carcasses without much difficulty. Thus, disproving, I guess, all the movie. effects of Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Mhm.

And all the experts making comments. right now, right? >> Yeah. But again, you would have to hold. it in a very specific direction, but I. guess that might be what makes sense in. this so that there's not blood splatter. everywhere because I think that is. posing as a big question mark and. everyone's like, "Maybe he killed her. somewhere else." Which I'm feel like the. police would know that. Mhm. However, I. would imagine timing would also be. important. Prosecutors believe that. David dismembered Celast 12 days after. her death. Netizens theorize online, like, "Where was she for 12 days?" You. know? And then also, um.

once you're 12 days into decomposition, unless you're kept in a really cold, I. guess, cool environment, it's going to be really hard to move. somebody's body because there's skin. slippage. There's a lot of. fluid build-up. It It's not even just. about hauling. dead weight. It's Things are moving in. the skin. Yeah, exactly. So, where was. she kept? Exactly. If you didn't get the. pool until at least May 1st. So, David.

lives there by himself? He lives there. by himself, but I I imagine lots of. people have the keys to that place. Yeah, cuz there isn't like his friends, his family always His family lives in. Texas. His friends, I mean, I I It. doesn't appear that anybody lives with. him. Um if anything, I think the. prosecutors believe at some points. Celeste was obviously living with him. when she was missing. So, there's just. like it doesn't make any sense if there. was Where was she for 12 days? Which is. why TMZ initially they reported that.

Celeste had been frozen at some point. The LAPD actually came out to say that's. not true at all, that she was not frozen. when they found her in the trunk, but. that wording is also interesting of not. frozen in the trunk when, you know, there's no evidence that she was frozen. recently, but if she had been deceased. for so many months, maybe she had been. frozen the first 12 days. There's lots. of confusion there. Though I will say I. usually take everything TMZ says with a. bag of salt. And if he's just ordering. things on Amazon, why is he not ordering.

any cleaning supplies? He doesn't strike. me as someone who stockpiles cleaning. supplies. He doesn't seem like the type. that he opens up a cabinet and he's. like, "I got 12 vacuums and I got all. the Lysols and the Cloroxes. I have. everything." So, he didn't Postmate it, he didn't order it on Amazon, maybe he. went to the store and paid in cash, but. that also doesn't seem like him. He's. Postmating a shovel to his house. I. don't think that he's going to go to a. store and buy Clorox wipes. Right. So, you're wondering how come there's not. much sign of cleaning? >> Yes, but also maybe that's where the.

smell is coming from. Maybe he kept her. inside the house in one of the bathrooms. for 12 days and then moved her to the. garage to dismember her and there could. be remnants of the decomposition scent. that he did not thoroughly clean and. it's just been lingering inside the. house. So, rather than the very morbid. conspiracy that she was kept in the. house, her remains were kept in the. house up until like July, perhaps it. could be that he just did not clean. well. I don't know. People are just saying, "It's irking me that she wasn't frozen.".

That's what people are saying. People. are saying this seems virtually. impossible. Nothing makes sense right. now. There has also been the very big. discourse about whether or not she was. pregnant. The autopsy report reads that. it was unclear whether or not she was. pregnant. That's just how they have to. write it. Because if they don't have. definitive proof that she was or was. not, they can't definitively say one way. or the other. However, there was no. fetus found. Her ovaries were an. appropriate size. There was no trauma. that they could find, at least at this.

point in the decomp. So, there's no. indication that she was pregnant at the. time of her passing, but a lot of people. have inflated unclear to oh, she. probably was. But, that also doesn't mean that it. hadn't happened before. So, remember. those Discord chat logs? David was in. the Discord asking questions like, "What. should I name my kid, guys?" Deleted. user who people believe to be Celeste is. writing, "Guys, I think I'm pregnant.". Investigators have found messages. between David and Celeste where they. talk about, quote, "sex, pregnancy, abortion, and the use of Plan B.

emergency contraceptives." There are. also explicit photographs documenting. and corroborating their sexual. relationship. And at one point, March. 2025, [music]. so a month before she's killed, she. messaged him, "All we do is have sex and. just hang out, man. I want more than that for myself." They. also found a lot of CSAM in his phone. Court documents listed as the. description of photographs depicting the. victim naked as well as while she was. engaged with defendant in sexual. activity when she was 13. [music] The.

evidence does constitute a CSAM. And. just to give you even more context on. how depressing this news is, um, when. she was found in the trunk, she still. had braces. I mean, she's like Everyone. wants to say she's 15 or they want to. say, "Oh, the girl or the woman found in. her The young lady." She's like a baby. She's She looks like a child. She had. braces during the autopsy. There are. reports that there they found 40. terabytes of CSAM, which even any trace. of CSAM, I think people should get life. in prison, but we don't know how much.

CSAM exactly was found in his device. And whether or not it's just Celeste or. if there's other victims or if he was. purchasing and downloading CSAM from the. internet, it's unclear. It's been. getting misreported as being 40. terabytes of just CSAM. The Deputy DA. Beth Silverman, who's on this case, says. David's iCloud account contains, quote, a significant amount of CP. She says. they have about 40 terabytes of evidence. and data, but she doesn't directly say. how much CSAM there is. Okay, so it's. not not 40 terabytes of CSAM.

>> Yes, which I mean, 40 terabytes of data. evidence is a lot, but it seems like. it's going to be a huge case with a lot. of discovery. But, we just don't know. how much CSAM. Like, to be 40 terabytes, I'm just trying to picture it. It's got. to be a lot of like videos or like large. files or photos. Like, you can't You. know what I mean? Like, that's got to be. Yeah, I'm assuming. >> amount. I'm assuming he has tons of. audio recordings. Audio files still Yeah. Nothing. Videos,

audio. >> to be videos. And they did wiretap his. phone. We're going to get into all of that. I. don't know if that's included in the 40. terabytes because they haven't gone. through most of it. So, it's just a. little bit unclear. They might have even. more evidence, but yeah, there must be a. lot of videos. >> Yeah. Because, I mean, text and code data of. like locations, that doesn't really take. up that much space. Yeah. There were. then conspiracies that David maybe. filmed the entire killing and that was. categorized in with the CSAM and that.

there's a snuff film out there, but I. mean, some of the conspiracies have. really gotten out of hand with that. DA. Hawkman, when he is asked about why this. took so long for an arrest to be made, he states that, quote, "I think the. police chief got it right. That in a. situation where you don't have an. eyewitness account, or we can't point to. a video that shows the killer killing. someone, you have to go through very. rigorous and thorough investigation to. look at all the digital and forensic. evidence. You have to speak with. witnesses often who are cooperative and. some who are not cooperative in order to.

obtain. necessary to decide who did what, when, how, and what their mental state was at. the time." Some people think that that. last sentence is very interesting. phrasing, "in order to obtain all the. information necessary to decide who did. what, when, how, and what their mental. state was at that time." Which could be. very just generic language of like, this. is how we conduct an investigation, of. we're trying to figure out who, when, what, where. Like, these are the. investigative answers that we're trying. to get to. But some people say it sounds.

like vague language where it almost. sounds like maybe more than one person. was involved. But that is where I leave. you with part one. And the part two for. this is going to be up, we're going to. be talking about all the people that. all the people that have been pointed as. potential accomplices by the internet, as well as David's attorneys, who they. represented before, what it seems like. their defense strategy is going to be. going into the preliminary hearing. that's happening in June, and what even. is going to be happening in the. preliminary hearing. So with that being.

said, stay tuned, stay safe, and I will. see you in the next one. >> [music].