
Cornell 7: Frat Brothers Accused of Campus Gang SA & Sending "Free Pu**y" Snapchat
Bada bing, bada boom. >> I can't think of many reasons that a. person, a pedestrian, can be standing. there and get hit by a car and somehow. that person, the pedestrian, ends up at. fault. There's not really many scenarios. in which I would immediately accept that. conclusion without asking a ton of. follow-up questions. I mean, you really. have to be kind of out of luck. You have. to be in some sort of luck recession. April 30th of this year, 2026, there is. a college kid standing in a parking lot.
He's got his little backpack on and he's. filming with his phone. So, he's got his. phone out. He's got his backpack. And he. appears to be standing in front of a. black Cadillac that's just parked in a. parking spot. And the student just very. quickly says, "Am I allowed to stand. here? >> Am I allowed to stand here?". >> He's got his phone up and we get the. answer to his question sooner rather. than later. I don't know if he's allowed. to stand there, but maybe he shouldn't. be standing there because the black. Cadillac decides, I'm just going to hit. the kid. The car backs into the student.
It's a little more like a bunk, like a. very hard bunk. I mean, the car does not. perform a speed test trying to go 0 to. 60. The car just kind of. anticlimactically. bumps into the student behind it, continues reversing out of the parking. spot. The student doesn't lose balance. He doesn't fall over. He doesn't get. dragged. But it's not like a super soft. tap either. He just kind of walks. backwards as the car is reversing back. into him before the car puts itself into.
drive and starts moving forward to get. out of the parking spot. But as the car. is moving forward, you can hear from the. side of the car someone else is. screaming now. Ah, you just ran over my. foot. OH MY GOD. >> AH, YOU just ran over my foot. And that. individual whose foot was potentially. ran over by this car is banned from. campus for the entire year. This is a. student who got his foot allegedly run. over and can no longer come back to.
campus. >> Wait, there's a lot of people? >> Yeah, there's multiple students. One. gets bumped, one allegedly gets his foot. run over. There's different people. And. the entire parking lot fiasco is. analyzed and discussed on many major. news platforms. Because this isn't just. any parking lot and a bunch of college. students being irresponsible with. vehicles. This is the parking lot at a. very prestigious Ivy League institution, Cornell University. And after a. week-long investigation, it was decided.
that the students outside the car were. the ones to blame. They were the ones at. fault for getting bumped, bumped, for. getting their foot run over. I mean, it. kind of sounds bizarre because like, sure, you probably shouldn't be standing. in front of a car that's trying to get. out of the parking lot, but also that. person driving the car should probably. just call the campus police, try to do. something so that they don't actually. start moving the vehicle when there's. people standing in the way. >> So, there's a bunch of students blocking.
the car. Is that what Yes. >> Okay. So, prevent it from leaving. >> Yes. But it's not super aggressive. either. M. >> it's kind of like a mixture of. preventing it from leaving and kind of. loitering, >> right? And then the car is it just. >> it's just slowly backing up. >> like without. >> Yeah. Okay. >> But there's got to be a better way to. get out of the parking spot, right? But. the reason that this makes the news is. because, well, like I said, it's Cornell. University, and it's such a strange, bizarre incident with a strange. conclusion. But also, the person driving.
the vehicle is the president of Cornell. who just backed up into a student and. potentially ran over another student's. foot. And a week later, after an. investigation, it is decided that it was. all the students fault. They were the. ones responsible for this event. To give. some context, right before this whole. parking lot fiasco, Cornell's president, Michael Klikov, had just introduced to. Cornell students the Israel Palestinian.
debate series, which this comes after a. series of protests broke out on campus. demanding justice for Palestine and some. pretty big scandals of Ivy League. schools punishing protesters, suspending. them, expelling them, rescending student. visas. It was a mess. So, I guess this. was Cornell's response to their other. response is, "Well, now we're going to. have a debate series." Nevertheless, as. the president introduces the debate. series, he's now leaving the atrium and. a handful of students, they start. questioning Michael Cotlikov in the. hallway and they end up following him to.
the parking lot to his car. >> Are you refusing to talk to your. students right now? >> I'm not refusing to talk. I'm I'm. getting I'm uh being interrogated in a. way that I think is um. >> inappropriate. Now, from the footage. that I saw that's been released, it. doesn't look like the students are. jumping up on his car. It doesn't look. like they're banging on his windows. They're just kind of filming and. loitering and preventing him from. leaving. They're asking him follow-up. questions. He gets in the driver's side. and it's very clear. There's one student. standing behind his car so that he can't.
back out of the parking spot. And it. honestly, I mean, it's not that intense. all things considered. It's not like the. students created some sort of scary. human chain where they're just like. threatening bodily harm. And you're also. talking about an Israel Palestinian. debate series after Cornell students. felt like they've been brutally punished. for peacefully protesting. There's going. to be a lot of emotions involved. And. from the footage I saw, it doesn't seem. that volatile. But he still backs up into them and.
apparently runs over a foot. The whole. situation gets so big that the president. of Cornell has to release a public. statement where he says, "These. individuals are known to Cornell for. their past conduct, including a long. history of ongoing verbal and online. abuse towards numerous members of. Cornell's administration and staff, as. well as disruptive protests resulting in. the case of two individual bans from the. campus. He says that he was accosted in. the hallway, that they continued to. follow him to his car, surrounded him, banged on the windows, blocked the car,
and they were shouting. He says, "I. waited until I saw space behind my car. and then using my car's rear pedestrian. alert and automatic braking system was. able to slowly maneuver my car from the. parking space and exit the parking lot.". >> What? >> Yeah. His statement is kind of crazy. He. also says, "The behavior I experienced. last night is not protest. It is. harassment and intimidation with the. direct motive of silencing speech. It. has no place in an academic community,
no place in a democracy, and can have no. place at Cornell." The student who had. his foot allegedly run over. He did end. up getting his degree the month after. the incident. So, he was a senior and he. graduated. However, right after. graduation, he was banned from going on. campus for an entire year because of. this incident. So, his foot allegedly. gets run over by Cornell's president. And the notice of the ban reads, quote, "While in the day parking lot, you.
restricted a motor vehicle's ability to. maneuver while it was in motion as the. reverse lights of the vehicle were. illuminated. your intentional act. created a hazardous condition. Which, like, all of this seems so overkill. Why. didn't Cornell's president just call. campus police to come help him so that. he could safely reverse his car out of. there and go home? I mean, what. compelled him to reverse his car when he. knew that there were pedestrians, Cornell students standing around his. car? And now the campus police, CUPD,
Cornell University Police Department, who work for Cornell and by default, Michael Cotlikov, the president, has now. deemed that it's the student's fault and. he can't come back to campus for a full. year. And this was a huge scandal for. Cornell earlier this year. But that will. not, not even in the slightest, be the. worst investigation and scandal that. Cornell University will be caught up in. in this year. Because a few months. later, Jane Doe will file a civil. lawsuit against Cornell University and.
seven fraternity brothers from Cornell, now dubbed the Cornell 7. Jane Doe. alleges that as a student at Cornell, she went to a fraternity party where she. was gang essayed for 7 hours, traumatized to the point of dropping out. of her dream university, and her entire. life has been ripped apart. While some. of the accused, according to her. lawsuit, are still going to school. They're on their way to graduating. And. some of the accused, their punishment. for the events of that night was to. attend a workshop and write essays, reflection essays, reflection papers.
These are the allegations against the. Cornell 7 from the Jane Doe lawsuit and. why it seems like everybody is divided. There are people in mainstream media who. are going on talk shows like The View. going against Jane Doe. >> The pictures of these young men who have. not been charged, not been adjudicated, are being plastered all over the. internet. I think people are reporting. this story inaccurately. I think they're. reporting it unfairly. >> Trump, yeah, Trump is weighing in,
stating that the accused aren't going to. get a fair shake if a certain prosecutor. is investigating the case. >> Well, James is a corrupt person. She's. totally corrupt and I can't imagine it. And uh I feel badly for whoever she's. looking at because they won't get a fair. shake. There are Snapchat messages that. are being analyzed. New text messages. seemingly released like every single. day. Recorded phone calls are slowly. getting released. >> You did tell me you were sober, by the. way. You You did. You said you hadn't. been anywhere. >> With at least one accused stating that.
maybe he was the one who was essayed by. Jane Doe, not the other way around. People are getting doxed. The US Marine. Corps is having to step up to tell the. internet, "Wait, you've got the wrong. guy." Like that that's a guy from the. Marines. He's a Marine. You guys think. he's one of the Cornell 7 because he has. the same name, but he's a Marine. And in. like most cases, everyone's trying to. pick a side, but like I said, with most. cases, it's just really not that simple. This is the case of the Cornell 7.
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Before we begin, a big content warning. This episode discusses an alleged sexual. assault, including drug and alcohol. usage, potential coercion, as well as. the greater ripple effects that have. resulted from this case, positive and. negative. If you are a survivor or you. find this subject hard to hear, please. take care of yourself. Skip to the next. one if you need to. And I also cannot. stress enough, this case is currently. ongoing. When we describe what happened. that night, we're describing what is. alleged in court filings reported by. news outlets or found in public records.
up until the time of recording. Due to. the current pending status, legally. speaking, we are using very specific. words to indicate that it has not been. adjudicated. Nobody has been proven. guilty in the court of law and everybody. remains innocent until and unless they. are proven guilty in court. And us. having to state that is neither a. judgment of the case, nor is it a. judgment of Jane Do's credibility, nor. is it a judgment of the accused. credibility. Any comments, theories, speculations, opinions, claims, or even. leaked information online, we found.
publicly available online. They do not. reflect our beliefs. If there are any. massive developments or changes, we will. do our best to keep you guys updated. But with that being said, always do your. own research. And I will say there is. like a whole football team of lawyers. involved. Everybody's lawyered up at. this point. Lawyers are getting lawyers, and that's obviously an exaggeration, but it just feels like that. It just. feels like new lawyers are spawning. every week to do an interview with ABC. News. And these lawyers are very. passionate and they're very full of some.
of the lawyers are getting threatened. They say that they're getting death. threats. They're getting threats to. their family safety. It's become a very. polarizing case. But because there's so. many lawyers involved, just something to. keep in mind before we go and post some. crazy TikToks, like don't say anything. too crazy is all I'm saying. So with. that being said, let's get started. Insurance companies, at least in my. personal experience, they don't like to. say no to coverage because that's saying. no to money. So, they'll say, "Yes, we. will accept you. We will cover you." And. then they will try their absolute best.
to not cover anything, but they'll. typically take your money. They'll ship. you one of those like plastic insurance. cards in the mail that means absolutely. nothing. At this point, you might as. well be paying with Barbie dollars at. the doctor's office, monopoly money, because nothing ever gets covered. But. there are some individuals and. organizations that even insurance. companies are like, "We don't even want. your money. You can take your money. We. don't want to cover you. We don't even. want to go through that. It's not even. worth the risk." Fraternities are one of. them. There is a common statistic that's.
cited out there that fraternities are. the sixth worst insurance risk in the. country behind hazardous waste disposal. companies and aestos contractors. That. was stated in Time magazine, but there's. no official list. the best contract. >> It's like mold. >> Oh. Oh. Oh, I see. >> Yeah. I mean, there's no official list, so it's very hard to say if they're the. sixth worst. I couldn't find the exact. source of this thing that people keep. repeating. Some people say it's the. seventh worst, or some people say it's. fraternities and sororities. It's all.
Greek life. Some people say it's just. fraternities. It does appear though, the. truth is that many insurance companies. don't want to cover fraternities. I. don't know if it's the sixth worst, but. they just don't like them. I didn't know. they need a like a umbrella coverage for. >> Yeah, they need umbrella coverage. >> like a Are they like a company? They run. it probably like an organization, right? >> So, they need umbrella coverage usually. for the national organization and then I. think for the chapter houses. >> filled with a bunch of 18-year-olds that.
are getting drunk is usually an. insurance nightmare. >> I mean, that makes sense. >> Yeah, >> that makes sense. Imagine the the the. the amount of. >> lawsuits, liability. >> Yeah. just incidents that they have to. cover on a weekly basis. >> It's to the point where a lot of the. fraternities have resulted in. self-insuring. They have set up their. own insurance companies. Some big. fraternities even came together to. create their own insurance company. There's one really big one called frmt, fraternity risk management trust. A.
board member states that they write. liability coverage for roughly half of. all the national fraternities, but they. typically don't cover the things that. fraternities usually get sued for, such. as hazing, alcohol violations, or essay. And there's fine print. So basically, if. you're a member of a fraternity, you're. 18, you went to college, you just joined. a fraternity, you just pledged, you got. hazed. And obviously this is vague and. not directed towards one organization, but a general overview that shouldn't be. taken as representative of any specific.
or all organizations. But if you're a. member of a fraternity and you're drunk, you do something really bad. You end up. getting sued. Okay. You pay the. fraternity like $50 a year. Some people. say it's $100 a year. Couple hundred a. year for insurance. >> Mhm. Well, the fine print says the. minute you start drinking under certain. circumstances, you are no longer a. member. Your membership is rescended. Which means the minute that that. happens, you are no longer a fraternity.
member, which means you are no longer. covered under the fraternity insurance. policy. You're just not a member anymore. now. Yes, you got spanked. You got hazed. in ways that probably have a lot more in. common with organized fet meetups, blindfolds. You're eating an entire raw. onion while being spanked, then forced. to plank while professing your undying. love to the brothers and you're big, which is the guy standing over you. watching with like a weird power trip. And that obviously can only mean that. this is like the pinnacle of.
interpersonal relationships and. friendship, all of that. The second that. there's a court filing, that member is. likely dropped. It's almost poetic, actually. There are two odd workarounds. for this alcohol thing. Two usually. approved ways of drinking at fraternity. houses that have your chance of most. likely staying insured by the fraternity. insurance is one, the fraternity brings. in a third party vendor to check IDs and. they assume the liability. So it's like. you're hosting an event and now they're.
going to check the ID, make sure. everyone's 21, and they're going to stop. giving you drinks when you seem too. inebriated. They're now liable. Or two, this is crazy, but there's a whole list. of Bob Y. So, it's bring your own beer. and they have a whole checklist that. they're supposed to do. So, they assign. someone at the door and it's like a. guest list. Everybody has to be 21. It. has to be marked. You can only bring. like six beverages, like six beers and. under or like one bottle of wine. There's some sort of limitation there. And then you get a band that you can't.
take off and you can only drink your own. beer or you can only drink like the. amount of alcohol that you brought. >> You're saying that's the only time they. will ensure these type of incidents? >> Yes. But like the people that are. checking all these things are your. fellow fraternity brothers that are also. 18, 19, probably maybe 21. It's just. it's not like a foolproof way, which is. why there's a lot of bad things that. happen at fraternity houses. But if all. else fails when members are not insured,
fraternity brothers, and this is so. strange. I was thinking, okay, like. where do they who pays them out then? If. you sue a fraternity member and their. fraternity drops them from their. insurance, what happens then? Apparently, a large number of payouts. are made by that individual's parents. homeowner's insurance policy. >> So, it it's just like the strangest it's. like a whole. >> ecosphere of lawyers who only take on. fraternity cases. There's some really.
big ones, like big names in the industry. that all of the chapter heads, the. national heads of these organizations. hate these lawyers and they're just it's. like one big everybody knows everybody. type of thing. One Redditor writes that. when he was in a fraternity, quote, $50. per brother per year went to insurance, which are the national office required. The thing is, if you read the insurance. policy, anything that could result in a. chapter or national organization being. sued was either a violation of. fraternity bylaws or the insurance.
policy itself, in which case no coverage. is offered. We technically could not. throw a football around in the front. yard with non brothers that were there. because according to the policy, anything athletic was too much of a. liability for the insurance company. But. also, if you're with a bunch of. fraternity brothers throwing a football. around and then you get rammed in the. head with a football in the front yard. as a full-fledged brother, well, according to the Redditor, quote, "Enurance does not cover brothers who. sue the chapter or national organization. for any reason as they are considered.
the same party on the same plan. So, you. can't sue them either.". According to one insurance company who. does insure fraternities, they took a. sample of liability claims and they. analyzed what kind of claims they were. They're just categorizing them. And a. lot of people assumed right off the bat. that hazing injuries and deaths would be. maybe number one, maybe number two, or. alcohol-related deaths, right? Considering there's just a lot of. bizarre and terrifying news all the time. about the newest ways fraternities are. terrorizing and hazing new pledges. Like.
there was this guy that was rushed to. the hospital. Doctors initially thought. that he was sodomized, that he was. essayed. But in a very like rather. uncomfortable turn of events, I guess. you could say, they discovered that the. fraternity was actually having well. allegedly having their new pledges stick. plastic hoses up their butts to give. themselves enemas with alcohol. The. patient in question denies that this. ever happened. However, police found. circumstantial evidence in the.
fraternity house, including evidence. that the patient may have lost control. of his bowels in the process and. defecated on himself, which he also has. no recollection of. And alcohol enemas. are super dangerous. You absorb the. alcohol much quicker because you're. bypassing your stomach, and it's hard to. gauge how much is going up the butt, to. put it simply. Also, you could tear your. rectum and sustain injuries like this. very brightminded pledge did. you know, future of our nation. They say. brightideeyed college student ends up in.
the ER. Why enema? Allegedly. So, everyone thought, okay, well, hazing is. going to be the biggest type of lawsuit, but it's actually not. The first one. from this sample is assault and battery. Then you have essay, then slip and fall. The fourth is fall from heights, and the. fifth is auto accidents. And tied with. fifth is at just 7% hazing incidents. >> Interesting. >> And that's not saying that there aren't.
a lot of hazing lawsuits. I mean, there. are like a lot of branding gone wrong. where plaintiffs need skin grafts in. extreme cases because they were branded. by some sort of hot iron tool and now. they need new skin or paddling gone. wrong causing permanent aesthetic and. emotional damage to one's bottom. And. that's usually like the light side of. hazing. There is. They have these paddles in the. fraternity houses that usually have like. their fraternity names on there and then. they hit you with it.
>> Oh, >> I mean it's not I don't know if it's. standard for a lot of fraternities, but. they that it seems to be a thing. >> like spanking. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And that is usually considered the. light side of hazing. There is the. full-on assault side of hazing as well. There's a lot of hazing lawsuits, but. it's crazy that it's still a small. percentage of all the different types of. lawsuits fraternities face. And the. fourth one, a lot of students also fall. from fraternity houses. Like a lot, like. when I was looking into this, I was very.
confused. They fall off of roofs while. intoxicated. They fall out of open. windows while trying to urinate out the. window when they're intoxicated. Sometimes there will be a bunk bed next. to an open window and they'll be. intoxicated, roll out of the bed and. then roll out the window, fall from fire. escapes, fall from balconies. It happens. way more often than I ever imagined. Just a lot of a lot of high falls. One. would think if insurance companies don't. even want fraternities, why do colleges. and universities want them on campus? It.
doesn't even make any sense. Even. Cornell University, a lot of students. are trying to ban Greek life. They're. protesting against Greek life and. Cornell still keeps Greek life. Why? Colleges and universities, they benefit. a lot from fraternities, >> donations or. >> Yes, a lot of donations and most of them. are not disclosed. But there is also um. some people say it's it could be the. marketing aspect. The promise of being. able to defy gravity and do a keg stand. on a random Thursday night, that is more.
enticing to someone than getting student. loans for whatever degree that they. want. It's kind of like built-in. marketing. >> So, this is the fun college life you're. going to get. I see. >> And also on top of that, there is a. bottom line incentive. It's deeply. financially beneficial for a lot of. these institutions. One random one that. I hadn't even thought of was a lot of. these universities, they don't have to. build and maintain more buildings for.
student housing because when you have. all these sororities and fraternities, like some colleges, one in every eight. students lives in a Greek life house. So. that means less buildings, less. insurance the school has to pay for. those student dorms because it's like by. bed and by student. There's a lot of. different umbrella coverages. I mean, one school is paying millions of dollars. just on insurance for their dorms. because yeah, you want to make sure that. everything is covered if there's a fire. and the building is insured if it burns. down, but also if someone walks into the.
building and they slip on a puddle of. water, they might sue the school. So, you have to be insured for that as well. So, these institutions are now saving. money since Greek life and the chapter. houses typically reduce the number of. students that need campus housing. It. also allows institutions to expand the. number of students they can admit, which. means more tuition. But also, alumni who. are part of Greek life seem to, at least. according to one research done, seem. more financially generous to their alma. modders later in life if they were part. of Greek life. But I guess the question.
that's been coming up more recently is, is it really worth it? Is it worth it to. keep fraternities on campus when they. appear to be quite dangerous? Ki is one. of the oldest, if not the oldest, American fraternity. Apparently, it was. three separate organizations that merged. into one. And the oldest of the three. that merged was an organization from. Princeton that started in 1824. So, it's. like 202 years old. America just turned.
250. >> The entire fraternity has about 48. active chapters across the United. States. It said that they have close to. 50,000 living members and a chapter has. been at Cornell. The Zy chapter has been. there since 1891. Yeah, this has been around. Jared. Hoffman was a Ki pledge at the Cornell. chapter years ago. So, this is not even. happening during this Jane Doe case, but. this is highly relevant. And he recounts. his hazing experience. So, he's like, I. was a pledge. I was a member of Ki at.
Cornell where all of this is happening. Okay. And he says that when he was a. freshman, he had endured months of. physical, emotional, and psychological. damage. And I guess they're all like on. the this is the night of the initiation. They're all on the precipice of becoming. a fullyfledged, fully pledged Ki-fi. member. or if they can just endure the. next few hours. He alleges that he's. sleepdeprived, physically exhausted, and. quote, "I was blindfolded and tossed.
onto a sheet, flinging me up and down. like they were just like tossing him up. like this." And there, for the first. time in my life, I was essayed. It. happened quickly. Hands reached under. the waistband of my basketball shorts. and slathered fistfuls of spicy mung all. over my genitals. I felt shock and pain. What is mung, you ask? He says mung. consisted of cold oatmeal, vinegar, hot. sauce, and cayenne pepper smeared all.
over his genitals, but he did not. consent to anyone touching him. >> Mhm. >> or inflicting this amount of pain. He. says, "I screamed bloody murder. A few. minutes later, I was given a half gallon. of milk to wash off my spicy junk. Then. I was blindfolded again, made to crawl. on my elbows and knees on hard wooden. floors, and pressured to solve a riddle. that, as it turned out, had no actual. answer. Finally, I collapsed. I was set. in a coffin and lowered through a trap. door into a secret chapter room where I.
was officially inducted into the. fraternity. He says he was initiated and. he starts living at the now infamous Ki. House at Cornell. He says, "I made. posters for parties like the house's um. great fratsby party." Is there great. Gatsby? Frat. Yeah. But inside I was. ashamed of my vulnerability and unable. to articulate or process the pain I was. in. I accepted the fraternity's. offerings of access to drugs, alcohol,
and girls along with the social license. to frame addiction as valor and book. conquests as glory. There's a whole. piece on this that Jared shares in the. Cornell Sun, which was published. recently. It's worth reading. But it's. interesting to know that the house that. Jared helped plan this great fratsby. party, the Ki House, is now vacant. So, this house that everybody's talking. about now with the Jane Doe case, has. been shut down since 2024. The Zy. chapter actually of Ki at Cornell has.
been barred from campus after Jane Doe's. incident. >> Oh. All from this? >> Yes. from 2024. And now in one of the. now vacant rooms, a very important room. for this case, one video shows someone. walking through this empty room. And. there's garbage, leftover food. everywhere, discarded furniture. There's. this weird poster of a sorority. So, it's a bunch of girls. It's like a class. sorority photo. There's a fentanyl test. Why do you need a fentanyl test? There's. beer cans, liquor bottles. It's now.
empty. But this house was not empty. October of 2024 when this case allegedly. occurs. October 19th. October 19th, 2024. at Cornell was kind of a busy day. There. is an arrest made for ketamine at a. fraternity at Ki to be exact. A. drugrelated arrest at the same exact. house. The university does not place the. fraternity on some sort of like interim. suspension because they're going to host. another party that day. So, Ki at the.
house, someone is arrested for a. ketamine. related offense. >> Mhm. Okay. >> We don't know what it is. >> Yeah. There's um when you would go. through like little snippets of the. Title N investigation, which is the Jane. Doe investigation that we're going to. kind of get into in a second, there are. allegations that someone overdosed. And. we do know that there was an arrest made. because that was logged in the Cornell. There's like a crime log that they have, like a daily crime log.
>> They arrested someone maybe like. supplying or. >> so we don't know if it was the same. individual, if it was two different. individuals, if someone is supplying and. then someone overdosed or if someone. overdosed and that's how they found out. that they were in possession of. ketamine, but there was some sort of. ketamine related activity that was. discovered October 19th at KiFi. fraternity house. This Ki fraternity. house is on Cornell campus. So, it's not. off-campus housing, which means it's. technically under the jurisdiction of.
Cornell, right? They do nothing to give. any sort of temporary suspension to the. fraternity house, which is what a lot of. people expected because it's like, hey, you're not supposed to have drugs on. campus. We made an arrest at your house. We're going to shut this house down. We're not kicking people out, but we're. just going to investigate and you guys. lose your privileges of throwing ragers. and doing keg stands because that's what. happens, right? But they don't do that. Instead, 22 hours later, a sophomore,
20-year-old Jane Doe, alleges that she. went to Ki for a party and was ganged at. the fraternity house for 7 hours. The. same Ki, the fraternity that touts. itself, their whole mission, their motto. is building better men. Their founding. principles, they state are truth, honor, and personal integrity. They have a. creed of Ki and it reads in short, I. believe in the friendship of Ki. Whether.
on the road or in the chapter house, the. hand of brotherhood is always extended. I believe in the Ki fraternity. Truth, honor, and personal integrity are the. foundations upon which Ki is built. A. man's word is his bond. Chivalous. behavior crosses the ages to touch the. heart of Ki. 20-year-old Jane Doe. This. is obviously a pseudonym, but Jane Doe. shares the relevant details of her.
starting at Cornell in her civil. lawsuit. So, this civil lawsuit dropped. September of 2026. >> Mhm. The incident is from 2024 and it. seems like there was a big conversation. at Cornell. >> with people who knew fraternity members, with people who knew Jane Doe. There was. an entire Title N investigation at. Cornell, but it never made national. news. There were some official. statements that Cornell released, but. unless you were a student there, unless. you knew what was going on, I mean, nobody was really talking about it. But. in September of 2026, Jane Doe decides.
that she's going to sue not just. Cornell, but her sorority, the Ki. fraternity, as well as seven members of. Ki, as well as another bar. We're going. to get into all of it, but this is when. the entire case breaks open, and she. starts sharing the relevant details of. her starting at Cornell. She joins. Cornell, joins a sorority, and all of. this falls apart her sophomore year. So, she's already been there for about 2. years. Mhm. >> And she says that the only reason that. she even joined the sorority, she joined. Tri Delta, which is Delta, Delta, Delta,
Tri Delta. Okay. So, she joins the. sorority because she felt like when she. got to Cornell, they kept promoting. Greek life as like a very vital part of. the campus community. They made it seem. like, oh, this is where you network and. you make so many friends and it seemed. like a safe environment. So, she joins. Tri Delta. October 19th of 2024. She's. at the Tri Delta sorority house with her. sorority sisters, and they're just doing. shots of vodka. Jane Doe is 20. She's. not of legal drinking age, but she's.
completely intoxicated as per her. lawsuit, she alleges. Then at 8:30 p.m., she states in her lawsuit that she gets. into an Uber with her house mom, Jade. Side note, house moms of sororities are. not like your big sisters, which is like. you have a big and you have a little, and this is another, you know, undergraduate student who's also just. trying to figure out college. No. House. mom is kind of like a house director for. a sorority. They're not college. students. This is somebody who is. salaried, who lives inside the house,
who is like the operational manager. This is a hired professional. They. oversee the building upkeep. They act as. the on-site manager. They are. caretakers. They order food for the. sority sisters or whoever lives in the. house. They help operate the sorty. house, plan the parties, facilitate, hire vendors. This is a professional. This is an adult. This is someone who. is, you know, not a college kid. >> Are they uh school employees? >> No, they're employed by the national. organization of each sorority and. fraternity. >> Okay. So, they're not associated with.
the school. >> Yes, they are not. Yes. And they're also. not like the president of the sorority. chapter because that would be a student. So, they're not associated with the. school. Sometimes they're not even. former members of the sorority or. fraternity. They just get hired. It's. like, you know, hiring a professional. position. Yeah. The lawsuit alleges that. she gets into an Uber with the house. mom. So, she's already like taking shots. of vodka at the sorority house getting. into an Uber with her house mom. So, this is not like another 20-year-old. college kid. This is someone who is of. legal drinking age who is supposed to.
kind of be a caretaker. >> Yeah. >> She gets in the Uber and they go off. campus to a bar called Mooney. Now. Mooney is also a defendant in this civil. lawsuit where the bouncer and I'm. assuming they asked for her ID. They. stamp these giant X's on both of Jane's. hands. >> Mhm. >> Which I mean the lawsuit confirms the. X's on her hands are to indicate to. bartenders that Jane Doe is not of. drinking age. She's 20. However, the. lawsuit alleges that Mooney is serving. her drinks, alcoholic beverages. And.
there's like a whole there's a bunch of. sority sisters at this event at Mooney's. and they're all drinking despite the. fact that she's underage at this. establishment. Then around 10 p.m. Jane Doe and a few. of her sority sisters, they walk over to. a separate bar called Lot 10. Lot 10 is. not listed as a defendant. She's given. another under 21 wristband. And it would. appear, at least from the filing, that. they do not serve her any alcoholic. beverages here. She's here for about an. hour before she heads out and starts. walking back to campus to meet up with a.
friend. This friend is Matthew Les. He's. a fraternity brother at Ki. And they. have this huge big fraternity house on. campus at Cornell, the Ki House. And she. starts walking to the house. By this. point, Jane thinks that she's probably. had like 10 drinks in the past 3 hours. >> Damn, that's a lot. >> Yeah. And 10 drinks. I mean, because her. lawsuit specified that at the sorority. house it was vodka. So, I'm assuming. it's not like, "Oh, I had 10 beers,". which was also crazy. Yeah. She states.
that she is visibly intoxicated when she. gets to the Ki fraternity house. It's. clearly a very busy night for the. college students. The Ki fraternity. House is hosting a Hawaii themed party, which is an interesting choice for. October 19th, but it's Hawaii themed. And there's about three to four. fraternity brothers standing outside by. the front door. They let Jane in and she. spots her friend Matthew, right? This is. the friend that she came for. He hands. her a beer and there's some sort of like.
dancing going on. Everybody's having a. good time. And Jane and Matthew, they. start dancing on the main room together. But after dancing for what has been. described by Matthew as 3 to 5 minutes. It's unclear like how long it really. was. Matthew pulls Jane off to the side. and she says, "According to the lawsuit, he propositions her, asks her if she. wants to have a threesome with another. one of his fraternity brothers.". According to the lawsuit, Jane at this. point is so drunk, she's not even. capable of consenting to any of this,
but Matthew just leads her upstairs, leaves her alone with one of the. fraternity brothers. So, he's not a. defendant in the lawsuit, so he just. kind of leaves her with this random. fraternity brother. And I guess they're. just like awkwardly sitting on the. couch. And it appears that Matthew. eventually comes back and as alleged in. the lawsuit, he gets Jane and leads her. to a separate room down the hall where. there's a separate fraternity brother. sitting on a couch, Jonathan Newell. He. is another defendant in this lawsuit.
They're in what's called by the. fraternity the alumni room. The alumni. room is a weird room. There's apparently. three beds, a couch, and at least one. chair. The fraternity apparently. considers it a social room, but it's. also like a bedroom for members. So, there are people that's their room, but. it's kind of a social room in the sense. that nobody locks it. It's an unlocked. space where people congregate. According to the lawsuit, it seems. Matthew is plopped up on the couch with. Jonathan and they start passing around.
this plastic bag containing a white. powdery substance which Jane says they. said was ketamine. They start pressuring. Jane into snorting ketamine with them. Jane has never done ketamine before. The. lawsuit says during this time, defendant. Matthew and Jonathan also pied plaintiff. with marijuana and quote Jamaican liquor. believed to be some high proof rum. Soon. after, defendant Matthew and Jonathan. began engaging in sexual acts with. plaintiff, all without her consent. The. lawsuit alleges that during the assault,
Matthew, her so-called friend that she. came for, forces oral and Jonathan is. behind her, forcing intercourse from. behind. The filing states that. throughout the entire assault, defendant. Jonathan kept slapping Jane Doe on the. buttocks multiple times that resulted in. bruising. But at some point, the lawsuit. states that Matthew could no longer. maintain an erection. So he tells Jane. Doe that he's going to take a nap. So he. just leaves this and hops onto a bed. So. he doesn't leave the room. He just hops.
onto one of the three beds and he falls. asleep. Meanwhile, Jonathan keeps, according to the lawsuit, keeps trying. to reach for her private parts down. there. And she's swatting and like. pushing his hand away, but he keeps. trying. Soon after, it's alleged that. another fraternity brother walks in, Jillia Lopes. Jane alleges that Jillio. just grabs Jane from Jonathan. Okay, perhaps this is like the first decent. individual that's going to be uncovered. according to the sequence of events in. this lawsuit, right? But no, he's not. It states that he grabs Jane so that he.
can just start kissing her and then. Jonathan gets up and comes up behind her. and starts groping her from behind. again, specifically reaching for her. private parts. And the lawsuit continues. to state, "Defendant Jillio and Jonathan. then place Jane on a bed and the two men. begin having sex with Jane, initiating. another assault, all without Jane's. consent." At 1:42 a.m., Jonathan, so. this is not her friend. So, Matthew, her. friend, is asleep. The one that invited. her, is now asleep on a bed. And. Jonathan, the one that Matthew wanted to.
have a threesome with, allegedly, right, sends a group message to the Zy Chapter. Snapchat. So this is the Ki fraternity. The Zy chapter is Cornell's chapter. So. it's called like a ZY activives, which. means all of the active fraternity. members at Ki at Cornell are in this. group chat and it's a 57 member Snapchat. group. >> Mhm. >> He sends a message where he claims there. is quote free [ __ ].
>> Is that the only thing? >> He says free [ __ ] alum pu. So free. [ __ ] alum because I think it means. they're in the alumni room. Okay. And. then PU typically stands for pull up. Maybe it means something else. Maybe I'm. dense, but like I'm pretty sure it means. pull up. Now this is where people say. this is not the Cornell 7 case. This is. the Cornell 57 case because there are 57. fraternity brothers in that Snapchat. group. And surely one of them must ask. clarifying questions. Surely one of them.
must go check up on the individual to. see if they're okay because this is not. a normal message that can go out. If I. got this message from someone that I am. even remotely close to, even a stranger, I would be so confused. Maybe if you. engaged in some sexual activity that was. consensual and you texted some like, "Oh, I did some crazy stuff and said a. derogatory name." Would that be. expected? Maybe. Would that be morally. reprehensible? Yes. But like this is.
just doesn't make any sense. This is not. even something that happens in. fraternity group chats that I can even. wrap my mind around. >> I'm so confused. The responses that we. can see as detailed in Jane do's. lawsuit. Scott Norris, another member, is a defendant in the lawsuit. He says. free dot dot dot. So I don't know what. that means. I don't know if he's. restating it, asking a question, or if. he's shocked by it, or if he's. clarifying. Maybe he's like, "What do. you mean free?" A guy named Ryan says, "This is crazy work. He's not a.
defendant." Scott K, who is a defendant, says Diego went seven minutes ago and is. not AFK. So AFK means active or available. So. Scott K, there's like a whole thing. Okay, Scott, we're going to get into. Scott K later, but he later tells the. school that he was in a separate room. with a bunch of his friends and his. friend Diego all of a sudden just like. abruptly gets up out of the room and. leaves, which is kind of weird. So, >> after the text uh Snapchat.
>> after the free Snapchat, yes. So, Diego. left, but he hasn't seen it yet, so he. claims. So, Scott is like, "I haven't. seen this Snapchat yet." He just like. Diego just like up and left, right? And. then 10 minutes go by, him and his other. friend, his buddy, the other Scott, they. pull up their phones and they're like, "Oh my god, this Snapchat, like what's. going on?" And like Diego, maybe that's. where Diego went because Diego left out. of nowhere and he wasn't like, "Hey. guys, I'm going to go get a drink." Like. he just left. So then this text now says. Diego went 7 minutes ago and is not. active available. So. >> So saying like almost like Diego is.
there. >> Yeah. Like ooh like something must be. happening. it like, okay, if I read it, this is my opinion because I don't know. what's going on in Scott Kay's mind or. what Scott Kay did or didn't do. However, when I'm reading this, I'm. reading this as like, no, this must be. legit because my buddy just went in. there and he I haven't seen him since. >> Got it. >> So, like it that's the tone that I. picked up. I could be picking up the. wrong things. Now, Matthew, the. so-called friend of Jane Doe, the one. that invited Jane Doe, I guess he wakes.
up and he starts responding into this. Snapchat group. I [ __ ] love Kaii. This is He invited Jane Doe. Then. Winston responds, "Ki-I like all caps.". Winston Lee is also a defendant. Scott. K. Back to Scott K. The names don't. really matter. It's just more so the. messages. The names will matter more. later when I go through what each person. indicated that they state happened that. night. >> Okay, >> so Scott K says the alumni [ __ ] is not a.
bit first person POV not a bit. Now he. has like a whole explanation for this. message later. >> He's he's saying like I saw it with my. own eyes. This is not fake. >> This is like no cap. Like that's. basically what he's saying. Like not a. bit, right? First person POV. Matthew, the so-called friend of Jane Doe, again. responds like, "You can walk in and whip. it out." Which this part is not detailed. in Jane Doe's lawsuit, but a different. one. Um, more on that later, but. apparently a picture of Jane Doe is.
shared into the Snapchat. It's kind of. vague of whether she's clothed or. appears clo It's not like um an illegal. picture in the sense that she was. unclothed or engaged in activity that. she did not consent to being filmed, but. it is a picture of her that she had no. clue was taken. She had no clue it was. sent into this Snapchat. She has no clue. any of these Snapchats are being sent. >> at the time that it's happening. >> And then someone responds, "Shop still. open?" question mark. Another fraternity.
brother responds, "Yeah, devil face. emoji." Another responds, "Redacted. laying right now. Low key, he's cucking. all of us." What do you think that. means? I mean, that means. >> it seems like someone is watching some. sort of sexual interaction because. laying like I think that's supposed to. indicate like laying dick right now. Redacted laying right now. I don't know. That's just my interpretation. And then. the next line is low-key he's cucking. all of us. That makes it sound like all.
of us, a lot of guys in the room who are. watching an interaction happen because. usually that is the term cucking. Then. another message which appears to be from. the friend Matthew, the so-called. friend. Boys, come whip it out. Jane Doe. was shown this picture of her that was. shared in this Snapchat group later, and. she says, "What in the world? I have no. recollection of that whatsoever." She. later states about that picture, the. person that's smiling in that. photograph, like that image is so. upsetting to me. I look hammered in it.
It doesn't appear that I'm wearing a. shirt. My eyes are closed and I looked. like I look like a hammered sority girl. is what I call this image. I have. absolutely zero recollection of this. picture being taken. But continuing with. the lawsuit, the lawsuit states that by. Jonathan texting into the fraternity. Snapchat free [ __ ] alum pullup or PU, quote, "In doing so, Jonathan organized. and encouraged other Z chapter members. to join in on the gang rap of Jane in. the Z chapter fraternity house." At this.
point, fraternity members brothers just. start walking into the room. Jane says. that she's trying to retreat under the. covers of the bed. She's unclothed. She's naked. She's trying to hide. The. lawsuit reads, "Soon after Diego. Serabia." So Diego, remember Diego went. in there 7 minutes ago and was offline. He approaches Jane and according to the. lawsuit, grabs her face and starts. kissing her without her consent. And. Jane pushes him away. Jane says that her. phone is on the other side of the room. and she feels like there's no way for. her to escape this room. It's now filled. with a bunch of fraternity guys. Most of.
them she doesn't even know. So just to. quickly emphasize the potential. depravity, we've barely made a dent in. Jane Doe's lawsuit. It continues, "Dendant Jonathan then poured a line of. ketamine on his erect penis and. commanded that Jane snort it, which she. did," is what the lawsuit says. Defendant Jonathan then gets into bed. with Jane and begins groping her and. reaching for her vagina again. Then, as. Jane is lying on her back on the bed, there's Matthew, her so-called friend.
Jonathan, the guy that wanted to do the. first threesome, and he's he's the one. that is consistently tied to ketamine in. this case. by the reporting. Then you have Winston. Lee, Diego, who just came in and kissed. Jane. According to the lawsuit, Scott. Norris, and Scott Kay make their way up. there, cuz remember Scott Kay was like, "Firstand POV, this is not a bit." Now, the lawsuit claims that they all start. pouring lines of ketamine all over.
Jane's body, her unclosed body, and. starts snorting ketamine off of her. body. Eventually, most of the guys. leave, except for Matthew, so her friend. stays, and Winston Lee. They take Jane. into a smaller room upstairs, which is. believed to be the fraternity. president's office. So, there's a. separate lawsuit. It's John Doe also. sues Cornell. More on this later, but. John Doe seems to be one of the accused, though I cannot say with certainty. legally speaking, which one it is, but.
you can read the lawsuit and kind of get. context clues, but um more on it later. because there's a whole chapter 9. investigation and one of the accused. doesn't like the school's findings. It's. like, I don't like the fact that I'm. being punished for this. So, they. basically are trying. >> that's why they're suing. >> Yes. Cornell. So, there is a John Doe. versus Cornell civil lawsuit as well. I. see. And. >> and that one you're saying not a lot of. people are talking about the details, right? >> Yeah. Not a lot of people are talking. about it. And this is the craziest. thing. So remember the Epstein files.
where um there was just a lot of failed. redactions. I mean it was failed. redactions. What more can you say about. it? Right. That was kind of the. situation here. >> with the John Doe lawsuit. So basically. Jane do investigation happened and then. shortly after one of the. >> John Doe's. >> sued Cornell as well because they didn't. like the outcome. >> Yes. But this was prior to Jane Doe. >> and then until this year the Jane Doe. lawsuit became public but nobody has. talked about John Do's lawsuit. >> Yes. So I do know that a lot of these.
big I think ABC News has been getting. their hands on I don't know if they got. the whole Title N investigation which. that is not publicly available and. probably will never be publicly. available. It's a Title N investigation, but I think they got it from like an. inside source or something of that. matter. And they've been releasing like. random snippets every single day just. like here's another random line. But. this John Doe lawsuit, because the. essence of the lawsuit is, hey, we don't. agree with the Title 9 investigation.
conclusion. There are lots of snippets. of the Title N investigation that are. obviously included in this lawsuit. So, it's like a 100page lawsuit and there's. just a lot of lot of information in. there that we've pieced together and. tried to cross. We're going to get into. all the cross referencing of who is who. because it's just a lot. It's a. headache. But the lawsuit states that. they have a room called the Pence. So, I'm assuming like it's the president's. room, the president of the fraternity, and it's upstairs. And next to that room. is a smaller adjacent room called the.
fus. And this is not like a typo. I. don't know if it's f office. I don't. know if it's fus fauus. I don't I don't. know. It's unclear. But they bring her. into this little fus. And it's a tiny. It's kind of like a storage closet. It's. not even an office. It's a little al. cove with a desk, a computer, and two. chairs. So, it seems more like a storage. closet, right? It's not like a big room. And once they're in there, the lawsuit. details that Matthew and Winston make. more lines of ketamine, and they. instruct Jane to snort one, which she.
does. And by this point, Jane says that. she is completely incapacitated. And. quote, "Therefore, defendant Matthew and. Winston initiated another assault of. Jane, forcing oral and vaginal sex upon. her simultaneously.". At around 5:45 a.m., this assault. concluded, and plaintiff lost. consciousness. Jane wakes up later that. day, now it's October 20th, and she goes. back to the sorority house. She's in a. state of shock. She says that she. notices this large bruise on her butt.
area and out of fear she started taking. I guess out of fear she started taking. UTI medication as a preemptive measure. and it's not until later that day she. starts becoming aware of what exactly. happened to her at the frat house the. night before and how this is all like. it's all becoming public knowledge. everyone's finding out about what. happened on the Cornell campus Jane's. friends are encouraging her to report. the incident she eventually does. November 8th that's the first time she. goes to campus police, the CUPD, Cornell.
University Police Department, and she. reports exactly what happened that day. or what she alleges happened that day. Z. chapter is placed on a instant temporary. suspension for alleged violations of the. student code of conduct. Temporary. suspensions were also issued for several. students including the Cornell 7. So, Matthew Engles, Jonathan Newell, Winston. Lee, Jillio Lopes, Diego Serabia, Scott. Norris, and Scott Cretchar. So according. to Jane Doe's lawsuit, they are. temporarily suspended. But according to.
the lawsuit, Cornell says more or less, hey, show us how sorry you are by. writing essays. The lawsuit says, quote, who were afforded the opportunity to. mitigate their conduct by submitting. essays to Cornell. So just another. timeline overview. This incident. allegedly occurs October 19th, October. 20th. Jane Doe goes to the campus police. November 8th. The very first Cornell. statement in 2024 about this incident is. November 26th. During Thanksgiving break, 2 days before.
Thanksgiving, actually, Cornell releases. a statement very quietly almost titled, "Update on disturbing allegations of. sexual violence." It's as much of a. non-statement as a statement can be. They're investigating the serious and. deeply disturbing allegations of drug. abuse and sexual violence at the Ki. Fraternity House. Cornell's Office of. Student Conduct has been diligently. reviewing all information regarding the. allegations. They have taken a number of. actions including what? Addressing. immediate health, safety, and. educational concerns, whatever that.
means. Okay. They state that they are. temporarily suspending the fraternity. and temporary suspensions were issued. for a number of students. They urge. anyone who has experienced or is aware. of sexual misconduct to report it via. their online reporting tool. and quote, "For many, these have been a difficult. few weeks with events that have. challenged how we see each other and. think about our community." What the. does that mean? I am confident that our. community will rise to this challenge as. it has to others and continue to pursue.
our individual and collective goals. throughout the academic year. I wish all. Cornelians a restful Thanksgiving break. with loved ones, family, and friends. Sincerely interim president Michael. Klikov. So this is before he becomes he. was an interim president at the time. >> Oh, two years ago. Got it. >> Yes. The one that probably should be a. bit more careful when he reverses out of. parking spots. That one. Okay. Now, I. have to say the timing of this statement. is intriguing to me. Thanksgiving break.
Students are off campus perhaps unable. to protest or block his car once more. Look, I'm just speculating. I'm giving. opinions right now. I don't know for. sure what students would have done. The. general public is also very busy with. Thanksgiving festies and I highly doubt. news reporters and journalists are. combing through Cornell's official. statement websites to look for any. suspicious activity. And there is a very. general vagueness to the statement that. I can't help but think it's very. intentional the timing and the. vagueness.
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investigation commences in January and. they put together this panel. So, when. you hear me say panel, just think Title. N investigation. So, it's no longer with. the Cornell University Police. Department. It's now the Title 9. investigation. They're gonna investigate. what occurred. There's going to be a lot. on this Title N investigation. So. >> Cornell is investigating. >> Yes. >> Themselves. >> Yes. Basically. So they have like a. little panel. They have a lawyer on. there. But these are not these are not. federal prosecutors. These are not. prosecutors who are equipped to handle.
victims who might have been sexually. assaulted and know how to investigate. these things. They probably do not have. subpoena power and search warrant power. like a prosecutor's office would have, a. DA's office would have. >> It is a Title N investigation. Cornell. through a Title 9 investigation. No. matter what they find, >> they cannot press charges. They have no. authority to take this criminally in any. way. Now, it's unclear where the missing. months go. It could be that Jane was.
busy with school or healing or was too. traumatized to speak to anyone. But it's. just I think it's kind of weird that. there's such a big gap. They finally. commence it in January and then be that. as it may, right? It's really in May of. 2025 that things start really kicking. up. That's when the Title 9 office holds. at least like 12 hearings regarding. Jane's allegations. And at the end of. the Title 9 investigation, it appears. that two of the accused are expelled. Two of the accused are suspended, but.
are allowed to return. One of them was. allowed to return after three semesters. >> Who is expelled? >> Matthew and Jonathan are expelled. Yes. And then it is Winston and Jillio that. are suspended. So those are the other. two that were involved in. >> activivity is how people keep phrasing. it so far. I see. >> Right. But Matthew is the one that. initiated it, is the one that invited. her. Jonathan is the one that sent the. free put the alum. He's also the one.
that. >> Yeah. is, you know, is always tied to. the academy in reports. And then Winston. and Jillia were the other ones that were. involved in the conduct. But maybe I guess the schools thought it. was not as egregious as the other two. I. guess I could only assume because that. is a difference in the sanctions. >> So they were suspended, but they are. back. Winston. >> It's unclear if Winston is back. There. could have been a transfer. He could. have been He could have come back. But. Jillio is back. He was seen on campus.
like last week and someone recorded him. Yeah, he's back. He's graduating. He was. on campus. The other three also receive. academic sanctions. We're going to get. into it, but exactly zero are charged. Zero of them of the seven are. investigated by the local DA's office. Meanwhile, Jane Doe drops out of school. after the alleged assault. And outside. of Cornell and those who know these. individuals, nobody really knows about. this. This is not on the news. This is. not made public. The DA's office doesn't. make public statements that get.
attention at the time. Nobody knows. about this alleged 7-hour gang rape. inside of a fraternity house at Cornell. University until this year, until 2. years later when Jane Doe files a civil. lawsuit, suing Cornell University, Tri. Delta, her former sorority, Ki the. fraternity, Mooney's bar, and the seven. fraternity brothers. Jane Do states, "What I experienced from those who raped. me in the fraternity was the worst. experience of my life. I was brutalized.
and it injured me physically but perhaps. more importantly emotionally. I want to. recover from this trauma but it is. extremely difficult. It affects every. aspect of my life. It will haunt me and. be part of me for the rest of my life. And this case gets picked up instantly. after Jane Doe's lawsuit by almost every. single mainstream media news outlet in. the United States. Celebrities start. posting pictures of the Cornell 7 and it. completely blows up very quickly. This. is dubbed the Cornell 7 case online by.
social media netizens. There's a lot of. points of pain that netizens were. outraged by when Jane Doe's lawsuit goes. live. The allegation that this entire. incident lasted seven hours. People were. likening it to that's almost like a full. workday. That's like a full school day. than the fact that this allegedly. happened at a fraternity house, that. this allegedly happened at Cornell, who. like every other old prestigious. institution has a pretty dark traumatic.
history of sweeping essay cases under. the rug. >> Oh, I'm so sorry. You you mentioned that. she's also suing her own sorority, right? >> Yes. So, the allegation is that she is. not of drinking age and the sorority is. on campus and they're serving vodka. shots. They're watching her get drunk. and as she gets drunk, her sorority mom. takes her in an Uber to another bar, another establishment where she's going. to drink more. So, it's like they had a. reasonable responsibility to prevent her. from drinking and getting intoxicated.
Now, the punishment for some of the. accused is allegedly writing essays that. that's alleged in the Jane Doe lawsuit. And that's like a huge pain point for. the internet. And that's just like. naming a few pain points. It's obviously. not an exhaustive list, but one netizen. writes, "Hey Cornell, it's essay, not. essay. I thought you were an Ivy League. school." The essay factor becomes a. huge, huge point of contention. People. are demanding Cornell to release the. essays to see how wonderful they are,
that they would excuse such type of. behavior. People are joking that we. should have prisoners write essays and. the best one gets out to the point that. Cornell has to release a statement in. which they state that their Title 9. process lasted months. It involved at. least 12 hearings. They had a full. hearing in front of a panel of trained. faculty and staff and all of the. investigations ultimately led to. sanctions including students being. expelled, suspended. And Cornell states. at its conclusion, the hearing panel. issued a range of sanctions which. included expulsions and suspensions from.
Cornell. None of the individuals charged. were offered the opportunity to write. essays as a sole consequence of their. involvement. They state, "Any suggestion. that the university did not impose. consequential punishments for those. involved is false. A continuation of the. false narrative that there were minimal. consequences in this case is. irresponsible, will make survivors feel. less safe and supported, and will. perpetuate the under reporting of sexual. assault." Okay, that that last statement. is already insane, but the wording is.
very interesting. Cornell says none of. the individuals charged were offered the. opportunity to write essays as a sole. consequence of their involvement. Okay, so we know out of the seven named in the. lawsuit, Matthew Engles, Jonathan Newell. expelled. Winston Lee, Jillia Lopes were. issued suspensions and disciplinary. probation. Winston Lee for allegedly. inhaling ketamine off of Jane Doe's body. and forcing oral sex on her. Jillia. Lopes for allegedly having sex with Jane. Doe without her consent. Now, we were.
able to find in the John Doe lawsuit. against Cornell, which again, they have. snippets of this Title 9 investigation, right? That Winston, Jillio, and then. the three others that were not expelled. or suspended, >> right? So, that's Diego and the two. Scots, their sanctions were no contact. order with Jane Doe. participation in a. directed study through COCR focused on. the issues of social media use and. sexual harassment as well as bystander. intervention. Basically a mandated. study. Okay. And then respondent will.
submit to the title 9 office a. reflection paper that engages with the. specific circumstances for which he was. found responsible and contains a. detailed proposal for future university. educational materials to train. undergraduate students around the. intersection of social media use and. sexual harassment as well as bystander. intervention. The reflection paper must. also include recommendations to the. university's office of sorority and. fraternity life with respect to.
substance use prevention efforts in. Greek life organizations on campus. It's. worse. It's worse. So Cornell is like, "No, guys, please stop getting mad at. us. We didn't just say write essays.". Okay. So then you look it up and it's. like fine. They didn't say just write. essays. They said you have to be part of. this mandated study and you can't. contact Jane Doe. which seems bare. minimum. Okay. But this essay is. actually worse than I thought. The. punishment is to become a [ __ ].
consultant and adviser. >> That doesn't even make sense. >> Yeah. Oh, but they do have a rule and a. limitation. Use of artificial. intelligence tools of any kind in the. creation of this reflection paper is. prohibited. So to summarize, one of the. accused is to not talk to Jane Doe, participate in a study focused on the. issues of social media use and sexual. harassment, write a reflection paper. But again, that reflection paper should. have a detailed proposal for future. educational materials to train. undergraduate stu. You want someone. accused of gang essay to write a paper.
to help educate other students of what? How not to commit gang essay when. they've been accused of gang essay. I'm. not saying they've been found guilty, but I'm just saying I didn't go to. Cornell, but like that can't be a smart. thing to do. But I will say Cornell is. not lying. The sole punishment was not. just to write an essay. There were other. things involved. The included panel. snippet in the John Doe lawsuit also. continues, "The hearing panel expects. that respondent will take this. educational opportunity seriously and. apply what he learns to help improve the.
university Greek life community." The. panel imposes this sanction with. knowledge of respondents lack of. non-academic disciplinary records and. with the intent that it can provide him. opportunity for understanding and. maturation as well as actively. contribute to the safety of both Jane. Doe and the university community as a. whole. And again, I'm not saying that. the accused are guilty and that they did. everything alleged in this lawsuit. because well, this is an ongoing case. and like what am I an open door for. cease and desist? I wasn't there. I.
don't know what happened. But it is in. my opinion that if Jane do accuses an. individual of something and the school. decides that the sanction will provide. this accused individual opportunity for. understanding and maturation as well as. to actively contribute to the safety of. both Jane Doe and the university. community as a whole. The language the. wording of that feels like a slap in the. face. It's so strange to me that they. would use this wording. And again, just. to reiterate, a Title N investigation is.
not a criminal investigation. But I. would still imagine that one would only. get a sanction if the panel found that. they did do something that required some. sort of sanction, that they did break. school policy to some degree or break. Title 9 policy to some degree. If Jane. Doe is like, "Hey, this person did this. and this person wasn't even in the. room," the panel isn't just going to. say, "Hey, random person, I'm still. going to give you a sanction. You still. have to write an essay." They had what, according to Cornell, a dozen hearings. Something compelled the panel to hand.
out the sanction. But this wording is. just so weird. So, Matthew and Jonathan. expelled, Winston and Jillio suspended. There's some sanctions that are. happening. The sanctions apply, it. seems, to Winston and Jillio. So, they're suspended and they have to do. this. The two Scots are not suspended or. expelled, but they have to like I think. they have to write an essay. Diego, the. one that kissed Jane Doe without her. consent, he's already graduated by the. point that the Title 9 investigation. concludes he's just barred from campus.
for 3 years. And now in 2026, after Jane. Doe's lawsuit goes public, Cordell makes. a series of statements, all of which. don't appear to get a ton of support. from the community because, well, yeah, doesn't take an Ivy League education to. understand why. And while nizens are. demanding Cornell for answers, they're. also turning to the local DA's office. because Jane Doe went to Cornell. University campus police to report what. happened to her in November. Now, they. are hired by the university. They work. for the university. They don't go and. get to try their own criminal cases.
There's no like criminal court inside of. Cornell. So, when they have a case, they. hand it over to the local DA's office, which is the Tomkins County's DA's. office, and it's run by District. Attorney Matthew Van Hton. This gets. passed off to the DA's office for a. potential criminal investigation. That's. all CUPD can do. They're like, "We. investigated. We did some interviews. We. got Jane Do's full statement. Here you. go. We can't really do anything else.". Now, the Title 9 investigation is. conducted by the school. But again, a. Title N investigation is not a criminal. investigation. A Title N investigation.
is not going to lead to any charges or. arrest or even a grand jury. investigation or indictment. That goes. through the DA. Neither Cornell nor CUPD. have any authority to bring criminal. charges. So what's going on with DA Van. Hon? Why were there no charges filed in. 2024? But let's say that's too much. Why. was there no open investigation in 2024? You didn't even investigate. Why did the. case not go before a grand jury to let. them decide if it was worthy that there. should be charges filed against someone, many people, seven people, who knows how.
many people? Why wasn't it investigated? So, the DA's office in 2026, recently. starts getting a ton of backlash after. Jane Doe's lawsuit goes public. And the. DA's office, Van Hton, comes out. swinging. I've never seen this before. He is so defensive. He is swinging. basically at himself and nobody else. because he's the only one getting hit by. all of his own statements. Like, he's. literally shooting himself in the own. foot multiple times. He said that the. decision to not bring charges was not. even a close call. He said it wasn't. even like I was debating. It was night. and day. They put out this memo.
statement and I've never seen anything. like it. It's aggressive. It reads in. short, "On September 18th, 2026, I. learned of the civil complaint filed in. New York County Court alleging a series. of heinous and despicable acts committed. by members of the Ki fraternity at. Cornell University against a fellow. Cornell student on October 19th, 2024. He says that given the lawsuit's very. graphic allegations of criminal conduct, he's getting badgered with questions. basically of why weren't they criminally.
prosecuted. He says, "Over the past 2. weeks, many people have called my. office, left voicemails, sent emails. about this case. Some people have. understandably sought answers. Others. have simply insulted and sometimes. threatened my office and my staff. While. I generally refrain from commenting. publicly on criminal investigations, the. community outrage stemming from the. incomplete news and social media. coverage requires that I provide an. answer to why the investigation resulted. in a lack of criminal charges. He states.
very boldly, Jane Doe's sworn statement. on November of 2024 did not allege that. she was drugged against her will or that. she was gang raped. He states, "On the. contrary, Jane Doe's statement described. her participation in drug use and sexual. conduct as voluntary, conscious, and. consensual." Okay, so a lot of people. had feelings about that. So, initially. when people read it, they're like, "Oh. my gosh, this is the smoking gun. Jane. Doe is lying. She lied about everything. Why did she say it was consensual in.
2024? And then all of a sudden in 2026, she wants to sue everyone." But when you. think about it a little deeper, so he's. saying she said in 2024 was voluntary, conscious, and consensual. >> Then why would the four guys get. expelled or even suspended? >> Yes. But also, did the journal factory. explode? Why is she telling CUPD any of. that? Do students regularly on a basis. just go to the campus police and tell. them about their wild encounters that. they have as college students? It.
doesn't even make any sense. You're. saying that she said everything was. consensual. Why is there a report? Why. did she even report it? >> Mhm. >> That's not normal behavior. It doesn't. make sense. He says, "My office did not. and could not have based our November. 2024 decision on the allegations in a. civil lawsuit that would not be filed. until nearly 2 years later." So, he's. saying like his decision was based off. her original statements. He says, "Furthermore, I've never been contacted. by Jane Doe's attorneys not to inform me. that the original statement was. inaccurate or to ask me to reconsider.
our decision." He says that he's the one. that reached out to Jane Doe's attorneys. after this new civil lawsuit was filed. It's a pretty argumentative statement. I. feel my interpretation reading it is it. pretty much all but calls Jane Doe a. liar. It's a pretty bold stance that. they're taking considering they didn't. even investigate the case. It sounds. like they already know what they believe. happened, but they didn't investigate. They continue that they received a. six-page singlepace typewritten. statement from the Cornell University.
Police Department of Jane Doe's. statement. Now, Jane Doe made more than. 20 handwritten notations to the six-page. document. So, they're like, "Okay, it's. six pages." And then she's sitting there. writing notes on the side and then she. signed it at the bottom saying that this. is an accurate statement and it's true. and correct and I understand that making. a false statement is punishable as a. misdemeanor. And I will say even like. the framing of that message is just. bizarre. It's not very friendly to the. victim. Now other people will counter. that she's not really a victim based on. what the DA shares, but that's that's.
also a bold statement, but also I guess. people are having their opinions. But. considering the DA's office does reopen. the case this year, this is like a weird. everyone's confused. And this very. aggressive statement by the DA's office, you're telling me is not going to taint. a jury pool based off his statement. alone. So he came out, DA came out this. year. First thing is denies came out. with this aggressive statement and then. very quickly he reopened the. investigation. >> and he's like, "Well, I'm getting new.
news. I want to see some new evidence.". And he's like, "Yeah, let's reopen the. investigation." But it's when a DA puts. out that intense of a statement. >> How are you going to get a grand jury. pool that's not going to be biased, >> right? So he was very defensive at. first. >> So defensive. >> It's all about like, "No, we didn't do. anything wrong.". >> Yeah. In fact, she said she wanted it. He basically said, "She told me she. wanted it, but he never even spoke to. Jane Doe." So, it seems like they're. just under a lot of heat and they're. taking all this frustration out on Jane. Doe. Now, some netizens do not believe.
that she is a victim. But, it still. doesn't discount the fact that this is. not, I think, a proper way that a DA's. office should handle any case and any. response. But, they keep venturing on. The DA's office says, "I've considered. releasing a copy of Jane Doe's original. statement. It very well may be that the. statement is publicly available through. the proper channels and ultimately have. to be released. I've considered this but. decided against it at the stage for two. reasons." So, he's like, "I really. thought about releasing her six-page.
statement, right?" But he's like, "I. don't want to do that because well, he's. saying like then I would have to make. the right redactions. We'd have to. heavily redact a lot of things and like. the proper time wouldn't work." So, instead of giving you a redacted version. of her statement, I'm just going to give. you like a paraphrasing of her. statement, which I think probably takes. longer than redacting the statement. >> I mean, they redact stuff all day long. >> Yeah, exactly. For. >> FOA. Exactly. Have a whole department. All they do is redact. >> and it's only six pages. Okay. It's not.
the Epstein files. It's six freaking. pages. Yeah. >> But he's like, "No, I'm just gonna. paraphrase it for the sake of. efficiency." Okay. I don't know. Weird. Now, they refer to each. They don't. refer to the accused names. It's like. male number one, male number two, male. up to seven. But when you cross. reference Jane Doe's lawsuit, it's very. clear who is being referenced. But. again, do your own research because. these are redacted names and I'm just. cross referencing and these are my. conclusions of who I think it is. I. can't give you 100% certainty obviously.
with anything that's redacted. And. again, her statement is six pages long. The paraphrasing they do is obviously. not six pages long. And I always find it. interesting what people choose to. highlight and include as details that. are not pertinent to the crime itself. Obviously, when there are details that. are pertinent to the alleged crimes, it's very important, but the DA's office. says on the evening of October 19th, 2024, Jane Doe walks approximately 1. mile from lot 10 in the city of Ithaca.
to the Ki fraternity house at 107. Edgemore Lane to meet with her friend, male number one, aka Matthew Les. I. think right I mean what's relevant date. change of location and purpose of change. of location she walks from lot 10 to the. frat house meeting with Matthew they. include the distance it's almost. irrelevant what does the distance have. to do with anything right but I guess. they're trying to subtly say this is. pointing out subtly well she must not be. that intoxicated because she walked the.
mile there or even more sinister some. people have been drawing the insinuation. that I've seen gathered by netisonens. like look how eager this girl is to go. to this frat house. Who the [ __ ] walks a. mile to go to a frat house? Which a mile. is really not that long. Now, the. inclusion of that very specific detail. did make my brain itch a little bit. I. don't know if it means anything. I'm. just saying it was interesting. The DA's. office, they continue to paraphrase that. on her way, her mile long walk, trekk, journey, whatever, she's texting Matthew.
that she's on the way. And at this. point, they say that she said her level. of intoxication is 5 out of 10 when she. gets to the frat house. They say while. there, Jane Doe opened one previously. unopened can of beer. And again, this is. like a very specific wording of like I. think they're trying to indicate that. she was not that drunk when she gets. there. She only has one beer when she. gets there. and that beer could not. possibly be roofied or drugged or the. possibility is low because it was. unopened, I guess, is kind of the. insinuation I feel like they're making.
From there, we get reacquainted with the. details we already know from Jane Doe's. lawsuit about the dancing a little bit. The question that is being asked and. Jane Doe originally describes, and this. is included in this paraphrasing, that. she tells Cornell campus police that her. relationship with Matthew was quote. definitely flirtatious in nature. And. they just include that. Okay, so it's. lots of interesting things that they're. including. Matthew brings Jane Doe to a. quieter area. Asks her about how do you. feel about a threesome with another frat. brother. Da writes Jane Doe agreed due.
to how attracted she was to Matthew on. top of her drunken curiousness. When she. learned that male number two, Jonathan, when she learned that Jonathan would be. the third participant, Jang Do. remembered being excited because she. thought that Matthew and Jonathan. wanting to have a threesome meant that. they were gay. just like very again very. odd and the inclusion of the detail is. also kind of odd at this point, right? And again, I'm not saying that one. version of events is truer than the. others. I can't say that because clearly.
there was no really real in-depth. thorough criminal investigation into the. accused alleged crimes, right? But. >> yeah, but it definitely reads more. doubtful of Jane Do's version. >> Yeah. You know, >> she walked a mile to see this guy. She's. texting him. She's flirting with him. They're dancing. She was excited. because this and that. You know, >> it's like the framing is very specific. The DA continues to paraphrase that Jane. Doe's statement stating that they. engaged in a threesome with oral and.
vaginal sex in one of the fraternity. rooms. The DA states at the start of the. relations, Jane Doe described her. intoxication as five or six out of 10. and that she was quote pretty okay with. having this threesome end quote. The. conduct ended when Jane Doe noticed that. Matthew appeared really sleepy and was. no longer fully erect. She told Jonathan. that they needed to stop so that they. can make sure that Matthew was okay. Jonathan then stops having relations. with Jane Doe. So, this is a little more. in depth, I guess, like a little more. details. Matthew says that he's going to. take a nap, refresh himself, and.
eventually stumbles to the bed. While. Matthew is sleeping, the DA states that. Jonathan starts dry heaving like he's. about to throw up. And Jane Do quote. began to take care of Jonathan by. patting his back while also waking. Matthew every few minutes to make sure. he's okay while consoling Jonathan on. the couch telling him that it's okay if. he has to throw up which Jonathan. apparently tells Jane that he's not. going to throw up but he's pretty sure. that he's not going to throw up. Okay, so this is really important. this whole.
like patting his back and then Matthew. is asleep because a lot of people use. this statement as Jane do seems like the. only sober one. So people who doubt Jane. do and don't believe Jane do they say. it's kind of weird. Matthew can't even. stay awake. How do we know he's. consenting? And Matthew later says what. if Jane do is the one that saved me. anyway. And then Jonathan, he's like. throwing up and Jane Doe is not throwing. up. In fact, she is taking care of two. individuals who appear to be unwell to.
some degree, whether it's intoxication. or what have you. I think that's like an. unfair assessment. Okay? Cuz I don't. know how one person's ability to. function as it relates to another. individual is some sort of indicator for. their own intoxication level. Some. people function better with not better, but they maintain motor functions a. little bit better while they're. intoxicated, but they might be blackout. drunk and still able to walk around and.
behave like a normal person. Right. >> True. >> So, I think the relation is kind of. strange. And also a whole thing about. ketamine. Okay. I think a lot of people. are saying that Jonathan is throwing up. because he's so intoxicated. He's so. [ __ ] up on whatever he's on. Maybe the. drugs, marijuana, ketamine, all. combined. He's so intoxicated. There's. no way he could consent to anything. either. No one could consent to anything. by that logic is what some netizens are. arguing because he's throwing up. Like, how intoxicated do you have to be to be.
throwing up like that? One thing that. lots of netizens have been pointing out. is that ketamine inherently makes a lot. of people nauseous. And it doesn't. matter how much ketamine you do, it. could be the smallest bit of ketamine. Ketamine in some people's system, instant nausea. him throwing up should. not be used as some sort of marker for. how intoxicated he is. But it is being. used like that. And Jane Doe patting him. on the back is being used as she's not. intoxicated at all. And in that same. vein, if we're really to say that, oh, people are intoxicated. Okay, let's say.
Jonathan is so intoxicated. He's about. to throw up. He's like gagging. >> Matthew's asleep, but they somehow get. it together to send Snapchat messages. very quickly. Like, it just is kind of. odd. like you have to if you're going to. apply that logic at one point in this. timeline and story line, you have to. apply it later, too. So, it doesn't make. any sense. Now, back to the DA. According to the DA, they say that. eventually Jane Doe and Jonathan would. start making out for a very short amount. of time and Jonathan kept reaching for. her down there and she'd swatting his.
hand away. Another fraternity brother. knocks on the door. He is um this is. Jillia Lopes and this is kind of. consistent with the lawsuit. Well, the. one part that we do learn is that I I. believe this is Julia Lopee's room. So, that's why he walks in. So, it's unclear. if he walked in because of the Snapchat. or it's like his room. It seems like. it's because it's his room. But either. way, he is accused of kissing Jane. without her consent. And then as he's. making out with Jane Doe, Jonathan. starts groping Jane Doe from the back.
And eventually, they end up in the bed. next to where Matthew is asleep and they. engage in more activity. That's the. language from the DA, right? Quote, began to have a threesome. Matthew. eventually wakes up and he says he wants. to join two. So Matthew wakes up and. he's like, "Oh my gosh, there's three of. you, one of me. Let's do a forsome." He. doesn't say it like that, but he's like, "Let's make it a forsome." And Jen do. according to the DA says, "Hell no.". Jane Doe, quote, "She didn't want a. forsome because she knew that means that. she would have to take part in anal,
which she didn't want." Now, I obviously. don't have the full six-page report, okay? But I have heard from mainstream. media news outlets and while we were. researching because they have gotten. their hands on the six-page report. They. don't publish the full report. They're. just like publishing like it's so. annoying. ABC News will publish one. thing. Okay. >> And then you have to read and sign up. for the New York Times, the Atlantic, everywhere else. And then everyone's.
publishing like one sentence here, one. sentence here from the statement. And. then you're like trying to piece it. together. And it's like, okay, now you. know, anyway, doesn't matter. But there. is a lot of emotionally evocative. statements inside of that six-page. report. There's a lot where Jane Doe is. very firm that she did not like what. happened to her. She did not consent to. it. There's a lot of strong language, but instead the language that the DA. keeps wanting to include is that she. didn't want a forceome because she. thought that that meant anal. She wanted.
a threesome someone was happy because. she thought that meant they were gay. Like, it's very weird. M yeah yeah yeah. >> these are the quotes you want to put in. like these are the thoughts that you. want to put in like that what is the. relevance to that to the crime or the. alleged crime right it's weird now. according to the DA's version of Jane's. statement Jillio then leaves the room. and a group of other men enter the room. so you've got Winston Lee um Diego and. the two Scots Jane is hiding under the. covers Jonathan is lying in bed next to.
her Matthew is sitting on the corner of. the bed introducing all these men to. Jane Doe and And then she remembers one. of the guys had said something really. rude and mean to her and he apologizes. and then just starts kissing her. So. Jane backs off and makes him stop. kissing her which based off the kissing. um I think it could be Diego right but. at this point Jonathan is asking Jane do. you want to do more ketamine Da's. version at that Jane do remembered that. she had taken ketamine at some point on. the couch with Matthew and Jonathan. during this night but she couldn't.
remember where or when that took place. Jane Doe thought that she had already. done ketamine once, so why not do it a. second time? At that point, Jonathan. poured a line of ketamine on his erect. penis, implying for her to snort the. line off of his private parts. Jane Do. snorts the line of ketamine, which was a. heavy amount of ketamine. And the other. guys, I guess, watched it and they're. complimenting Jane Doe's body according. to her lawsuit and her statements that. she's so pretty and has a perfect body. And one of the guys asks her if they can.
do drugs off of her perfect body, which. Jane do, according to the DA, responds, "Sure." So, the men are doing drugs off. her body. Jillio and another guy. So, Jillio just had interactions with Jane. Do. He comes back with another guy and. apparently says something along the. lines of, "Okay, we're shutting down. whatever the [ __ ] this is." Which I. thought was also weird. Like, if I, Mind. you, we think Jillio is male number. three, right? And then according to the. DA, mail number three comes back in. So.
according to this, he engages in a. threesome with Jane Doe. >> and is now coming back in afterwards to. shut whatever the [ __ ] this is down. What. >> did he shut it down? >> Not really. >> He just said that and then left. >> Well, yeah. A bunch of the guys leave. and then Winston and Matthew allegedly. take her up to the third floor. >> But it's just kind of odd. See, if I. were a DA, do I have a law degree? No. Okay. But if I were a DA and I'm reading. that, I'd be like, I already just need. to talk to some people because what do.
you mean? Like, you just had. interactions with her. You leave the. room. Where'd you go? And then you come. back in with another guy. Who's the. other guy? I want to talk to the other. guy. And then you say, we're shutting. down whatever the [ __ ] this is. Why are. you so weird with the language? If. everything was consensual, then you knew. what the [ __ ] this was. It was a. consensual threesome. But then now. you're saying whatever the [ __ ] this is. What do you mean by that? Like I'm not. saying it's weird. I'm just saying I. would like to investigate. I would like. to interview these people then because. it's just a very strange turn of events. that doesn't make sense in my head. But. the DA is like makes sense. They.
continue paraphrasing. Jane do felt. dizzy due to a pre-existing medical. condition causing dizziness combined. with the effects of the ketamine use. And the DA paraphrases that the two. Scots, okay, they're like even kind of. being nice to her, basically encouraging. her to stay steed for as long as she. needs. Eventually, Matthew and Winston. Lee bring Jane to an upstairs room, and. Matthew says, "Let's do more ketamine.". Jane do remembers snorting more ketamine. and remembers feeling extremely high. Matthew apparently says he wants to have. sex again because he wants a redemption.
for passing out earlier that night. Jane. says she's tired and asks Matthew, "What. happened to just you and me?" And she. can't remember how she starts engaging. in a threesome with Matthew and Winston. The DA paraphrases, she described her. level of intoxication an 8 out of 10 at. this point. Quote, "The threesome. continued until at some point around. 5:45 a.m. Jane Doe said she was tired. and needed to turn in. At that point, both guys stopped the threesome with her. as far as she can remember." The DA's. office then later points out after this.
paraphrase statement that under New York. state penal law, every essay requires. proof beyond a reasonable doubt that the. essay was committed without the consent. of the victim, which they do not believe. occurred here based off of Jane Doe's. original statements. Now, here's the crazy thing. Okay, so. the DA releases this very aggressive. memo about like, I'm going to paraphrase. her statements and I'm going to tell you. what the [ __ ] is up. And a lot of people. just run with the DA statement. They're. like, "Well, the DA said it, so it must.
be the version of events that is the. truest to everything that occurred.". Now, again, I'm not saying it's not. I'm. just saying the DA didn't investigate. So, do you really put that much. credibility on someone that didn't. investigate? He didn't have a. conversation with Jane Doe in 2024. He. never sat down with her. In fact, the. statement that the DA's office received. from Jane Doe back in 2024 was not even. written by Jane Doe. It was written by. Cornell University Police Department.
>> So, she's being interviewed. There's a transcript of the interview. that the DA doesn't go through. Okay? She's being interviewed for hours and. the police officer that works for the. Cornell University, okay, is like. paraphrasing and like putting in her. little statement. It's six pages. He. types it up and hands it to her and is. like, "Is this true and accurate?" Then. she makes those little 20 little. handwritten corrections. She's like, "Well, I thought I said this. I thought. I said this. I thought I said this.". Right? >> And then she signs it. Now, at this.
point, you also have to understand if. everything happened as alleged in Jane. Do's lawsuit or even remotely similar. There's a lot of trauma. She's not going. to sit there and say, "Actually, let me. factually correct." It's like, you are. not in the right state of mind. You're. like, "Okay, I tried to correct, but at. this point, you just kind of want to get. it over with because I'm sure it. probably was a lot of emotional trauma.". Yes. >> When police makes a statement like that, if she's correcting 20 things? >> Yeah. >> That's very alarming. Imagine cuz you. know, we get police report all day long.
Basically, the primary source as as. primary as it gets, and you're telling. me there's 20 mistakes. >> Yeah. >> What do you mean? >> Yeah. But the DA is like, "Nah, this is. her statement. I'm going based off of. her statement. They don't make it. abundantly clear that the six-page. statement is actually written by a CUPD. officer that did the interview and then. Jane do signed it. So, it's written from. Jane Do's perspective, >> but it's written by the officer, right? >> So, it's not Jane Do's written.
statement. Now, another thing is this is. an investigator that is described by. many attorneys as with all due respect a. regular schmegular campus police. officer. Like the campus police officers. are doing intake for things like car. break-ins, they're not handling. something as sensitive as essay. Even. most police departments, you think NYPD. is like the most sensitive to sexual. assault victims and know exactly how to. talk to someone so that they can feel.
comfortable and safe. Even these massive. organizations, this is campus police. You know, people. are saying they're busting up keg. parties. They police football games. They give out traffic tickets. What do. you mean? And so the way that they're interviewing. Jane Doe is also probably not what is. required to talk to someone and ask the. appropriate questions to get them to. accurately describe what happened to. them because sexual assault victims have. so much that they are unpacking in their.
minds. It is very hard to get a coherent. consistent statement in the very. beginning and that is like across the. board that prosecutors and police. officers have already spoken about. publicly for decades. One former federal prosecutor says. that's literally the norm. Quote, "It. could be wandering the statements. It. could be wandering all over the place. because they suffered a trauma and they. don't know. They can't process or. express it." She explains that's why. prosecutors can't just sit down and say, "All right, tell me what happened that.
day." She says prosecutors have intense. training. They have sensitivity to. navigate and investigate these sex. crimes. She says this is like the 101 of. trauma-informed interviewing. And. clearly that did not happen here. Another thing to note is that CUPD never. informed or got Ithaca Police Department. involved. Okay, so they find out about these. insane allegations. Crazy. Okay, Ithaca Police Department. comes out in 2026 and is like, "Hey. guys, don't shoot us. We actually just.
found out through the media. No one told. us. COPD never came to us. Passed off. the case. Nothing.". >> Yeah. Because why would they make this. into the news, right? because they work. for Cornell and the Title 9. investigation is made up of Cornell. faculty and staff, right? So everything. is kept inside of Cornell and the DA's. office is like we don't need to. investigate. What is there to. investigate? >> So I you know some people have been. bringing up the words cover up. So I'm. just saying I mean I guess if it looks. like a cover up, smells like a cover up,
it's probably Cornell. Just kidding. I. don't know. But not only that, not only. that, the COPD gave the DA's office a. condensed version of the statement. >> when. >> the original one that the DA's office. got like the six-page one. >> Yeah. >> Is already condensed. >> So they had like a statement from Jane. Doe. She signed off on it and then it. seems like it went through a further. condensing. So this is like a very. condensed version of events. Okay. >> Okay. >> Like a little super summary.
>> What? >> Yeah. They read the super summary and. they could just get the transcript from. the initial interview that Jane Doe had. because CUPD has it. The transcript that. interview is the basis of this written. statement. So all you have to do is. probably shoot one email over. You get. it, you listen to the statement, I don't. know, or you listen to the transcript. and then you're done. Or you read the. transcript, you listen to the if it's an. audio of the interview, you just you get. it done. That's it. And then you can. make a better informed decision. But the.
DA's office claims they never got the. transcript. CUPD is like we gave them a. lot of stuff. So it's like we actually. don't know who's Yeah. But had they done. that, the transcript reflects that Jane. Doe stated to campus authorities that. she was our worded. >> She did not know how many people had sex. with her. And quote, "I can say with. 100% confidence I was raped. There was. really no escape.". >> So her actual account does not match. what the DA is. Yeah.
>> Claiming now. >> Yeah. So, the DA is like, she said. everything was consensual, but in the. transcript, quote, I can say with 100%. confidence, I was raped. >> There was really no escape. Okay. She. later describes it as, quote, I felt. like bait. I felt like lions around me. It was just totally debilitating. It was. a debilitating place to be in. In the initial statements, she tells. CUPD that she agreed to a threesome with. Matthew and Jonathan, but there are more.
than two men in the alumni room that. started coming in and she started. feeling used. She says that she could. basically she's saying she went in there. consenting to this threesome, >> but things start unraveling and she's no. longer consenting. And so, a lot of. people are reading between the lines and. they're like, "Oh, yes." Because. withdrawing consent is a completely. valid normal thing that everyone should. be able to do and everyone should. respect because yes, you can say yes, I. want a threesome and then decide what. the [ __ ] is happening. I don't want this.
anymore. Right? But because she did. initially agree to the initial threesome. and because the DA statement makes it. sound so vague and weird, >> it makes it seem like she is upset after. the fact. So, it's weird. There are. other text messages that people are also. bringing up to kind of bolster that. argument. Um, people are very divided on. this case. Very divided. We're going to. get into the text messages later, but. she said that she could hear a bunch of. guys talking about taking turns with. her. That's what she reports to CUPD in.
the transcript. Okay. She says, "I will. never know who all touched me. I will. not know.". DA's office. They don't get the. transcript or they don't read the. transcript. I don't know. Okay. But they. don't bother to ask for it or go through. it. And this report that's typed up by. CUPD that Jane Doe signs off on is like. a abbreviated statement. And like. remember how earlier the DA's office. said the second time she did ketamine. she was just thinking oh I already did. ketamine. I don't remember when or where. but I just thought you know I already.
did it once. So. >> right. But the transcript if you get the. transcript the statement reads I had. become extremely uncomfortable with how. this night was turning out. So my. thought was if I do ketamine again maybe. I'll pass out. And my thought was if I. passed out then if these men had sex. with me they would be charged with rape. So she's basically saying like I just. want to pass out so that everyone will. stop. >> And the DA translation is I already did. it so I might as well do it again. >> Yes. Now is it it could be that he only.
got this halfass statement or it could. be I don't know. Right. But it's just. that was in the transcript of the. interview that the statement is based. off of. >> Now, a lot of this the DA's office is. now they put out this aggressive. statement. Okay, COPD is like, "Hold on. Um, wait, don't point the finger at us. because like this is what's going on.". People, reporters, journalists are. getting their hands on the official. transcript of the interview and they're.
leaking little portions. They're like, "Well, this portion says that she was. 100% confident that she was our worded. So, like what's going on now? People are. going back to the DA. These journalists. are going back to the DA and the DA's. like, "Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold. on." The DA is like, "We we didn't get. all of this. We didn't get this. information. We didn't get it in 2024, and we haven't been getting it for the. past 2 years, right?" So, but it's very easy to get that. information. Also, the DA kept referring. to her state of intoxication as like a.
five, an eight out of 10, which 8 out of. 10 to me sounds pretty bad, but like. just the whole storyline. But she said. in the transcript, quote, I would say. that I was the most intoxicated I've. ever been in my life. I felt like I was. unable to make any decision based off of. how intoxicated I was. To me, that felt. like coercion. I also felt like due to. my intoxication, they should have known. how intoxicated I was based on how I was. slurring my words. And even CUPD's very. first open report, like their like.
writing of the report, it reads, quote, "A female undergraduate student reported. that she was recently raped by 8 to 10. men at the Ki fraternity house." I'm. sorry. If that lands on a DA's desk, >> you're going to at least investigate, right? So, did it land on the DA's desk. and the DA said no. Or did it not get to. the DA? >> Mhm. >> But does it really matter? So, I I think. a lot of people are more upset with the. DA and a lot of prosecutors, former. prosecutors have even come out and said, "What the [ __ ] is that DA doing?" In.
much more legal words, nicer words, but. they're saying like some of them have. been more transparent, saying like when. you're dealing with campus police as a. prosecutor. I mean, they're like mall. cops in your mind. Like, that's what. they're thinking. Like you're not you're. not like, "Oh, I'm sure the campus. police know exactly what they're doing. and like I'm just going to take their. word for it because they're such great. investigators and like they really know. how to do a case, right?" Usually. prosecutors are like, "I don't think you. know what you're doing. I got to at. least talk to the alleged victim. I got. to at least talk to some people and. figure it out before I decide if we.
bring this before a grand jury.". >> Mhm. >> But no, they're like, "What compelled. the DA to just take this random six-page. report and say that must be all?" But. Van Hton pushes back. He says, "The. transcript wasn't provided to me. Nobody, you know, knows this information. about the transcript and that gives me. something to really dig into because. that changes the landscape for me.". Yeah. He says, you know, I'm going to. follow up on this because this is news. to me. That wasn't information that I. had first of all. So, they're talking.
about like how Jane Doe told COPD that. she is 100% confident she was arted, right? He said, you know, first of all, I'm going to follow up. >> That wasn't information that I had first. of all. Second of all, that is that is a. legal conclusion. >> Second of all, that's a legal. conclusion. >> Yeah, if she had said those words, we. certainly would want to have explored. that more. Like I said, that wasn't. provided to me. Even now, >> what. >> she's saying, I was rworded. Okay, I'm. 100% confident. I was rworded. Okay, he's saying that's a legal conclusion.
Basically saying she can't say that. >> Yeah, you can't arrive to a legal. conclusion. You're not a lawyer. You are. not the jury. You're not the grand jury, right? You're not anything. But if I had. seen that, I would have investigated. Like that's what he's saying. I would. have explored. He doesn't even say. investigated. He said if she had said. those words, we certainly would want to. have explored that more. Explored that. more. >> He says that he never even saw the. Snapchat messages in the Ki Snapchat. group. And when he's asked about that, he says, "Well, that's disgusting. It's. morally despicable." He says, "The.
Snapchat is disgusting, vulgar, immoral. But the question we analyzed was, did. Jane Doe consent to what happened? And. this law in New York State is clear that. if you are voluntarily intoxicated or. under the influence of drugs such that. your judgment is impaired, that does not. legally under the penal law constitute. your inability to consent. He says that. is a very difficult concept, but it's a. concept that I'm constrained by when I. apply the law to this case. He says, "If.
you take that Snapchat being vile, crude, and vulgar, that did not have any. relevance to the issue of whether Jane. Doe consented to what was happening.". He's saying this Snapchat has no. relevance to the alleged crimes. >> What that? Okay. Wow. >> Da Van Hton just states, "It had become. clear that we were not provided the full. picture by the university. They were the. first ones to be able to interview and. have their questions answered and just. let this young woman tell her story.
Them sending a partial record over is in. my judgment a failure. But also, he said. in a previous interview, >> "If what is out on social media was what. really happened, if she was drugged. without her consent, if she was. physically. gang raped, those young men would be in. prison right now. >> without a doubt.". >> Yeah. But that would only happen if they. are found guilty. And if they are found. guilty, which again, they have not been. found guilty. They have not been charged. with anything criminally. But if they.
are guilty of these alleged crimes, yeah, they would be in prison, but. nobody goes to prison without an. investigation and you chose not to. investigate it. So I He keeps like. pointing the finger out and it's just. like a very long finger that circles. back and points back at him. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jane Doe's lawyer is. confused, saying, "It's challenging for. me to understand how a thorough criminal. investigation could have been conducted. when she never spoke with anyone other. than the officer who took her original. complaint." As for the DA's office, Jane. Doe's attorney says, "What what more did.
Van Hton need to do with her own. investigation and prosecute?" He had a. woman who told an officer she was raped. and a group chat inviting sexual. assaults. The failure to do anything is. shocking. Neither I nor Miss Doe have. any confidence in DA Hton's ability to. handle this investigation and. prosecution. He seems more interested in. protecting his reputation as opposed to. seeking justice as is his duty as DA. But now, of course, he's reopening the. case. In an interview, DA Hton states. that he hopes to speak directly to Jane. Doe soon to discuss new evidence that. exists about her claims, which okay,
again, some people believe Jane Doe, some people don't, which is, you know, I. think this case has gotten pretty. political now that, you know, a lot of. right-wing commentators have taken up. this case and really gone to town on it. have used this case as a way to try to. tear down the Me Too movement. Trump has. commented on this case. There's a lot of. political things that are happening in. this landscape. However, I just think. anyone who goes and reports a sexual.
crime and then the DA's office rips them. apart and now the DA wants to talk to. them, how would you ever feel. comfortable talking to them about. anything? >> Yeah, exactly. >> I wouldn't even want to be in the same. room as you. like what are you saying? I'm sure she'd love to talk to you after. your aggressive statement where you said. you basically don't believe her. And. again, this is very important because. this is the district attorney. Jane. Doe's attorney says, "The defensive. posture I've gleaned from the DA. statements lead me to believe that they. recognize that there were failures and. they are trying to excuse them. While I.
do not care for the attempt to blame. Miss Doe for these failures, we. appreciate and support any efforts to. prosecute the parties responsible for. the assaults and will fully cooperate. with the DA's office to hold these men. accountable. But have no fear because. the DA's office gets taken off this case. and the attorney general of New York, Leticia James, is actually appointed as. the special prosecutor. However, more on. that later because one of the accused. attorneys is demanding she step down as. the special prosecutor because. >> before she was appointed the special. prosecutor, she had posted on social.
media. >> Yes. And her wording was they believe. acceptance of Jane Doe's version of. events. >> I see. >> Yeah. So, it's getting tricky. And. Leticia James has really longstanding, incredibly deep beef with President. Trump. So, he's been saying some crazy. things about this case, and it seems. more so pointed at Leticia James and. less so about, you know, justice for. university students. But anyway, more on.
that later. But regardless of which side. you're on, because again, like I said, this has become a politically divisive. case. It's kind of like the Lindsy. Clancy case where it spawned into almost. like a gender war and then it kind of. spawned into like a political thing. >> and everyone's like, "Oh, of course. you're a liberal or of course you're a. conservative because here's your view on. Lindsay Clancy. Like I already knew who. you voted for." Like it's almost become. synonymous with politics. So, a lot of.
people are taking very extreme stances. and regardless I just think this was I. mean Lindsay Clancy was a bad. investigation. In this case, it was the. absence of an investigation and I think. it benefits no one. Jane Doe gets. screwed and if you think that the. accused are not just innocent until. proven guilty, but you think they're. innocent because you think Jane Doe's. story is changing or you saw a text. message Jane Doe sent after the alleged. incident, right? What have you? The. accused are also getting screwed because. a thorough investigation is supposed to. bring us closer to the truth and closer.
to justice and there was no. investigation at all. So whichever way. you think the pendulum swings, it got. forked up by the DA. I think. >> the former Ki member that was hazed, remember, with the um spicy. >> mung on his private parts. He says um. every pledge at Ki went through a. similar process. I don't know if all of. them were sexually assaulted the way. that I was, but I suspect that many, if. not most, were. Now that Cornell's Ki. chapter has become national news, I.
can't help but see a connection between. the way I was initiated and the way the. quote Cornell 7 allegedly gang raped. Jane Doe. For years after college, I. fought depression and addiction. Today, with more than a decade of reflection. and years of therapy bills behind me, I. can see how the cycle of violence that. men and boys force on one another binds. us to silence and shame. This is a dark. room to drop into. And it's here that. violence begets violence. And that is where I leave you with the.
first part of this case. Um, the second. video that I'm going to try to get up as. quickly as possible, but it's just so. extensive. We go through every single of. the seven accused alleged statements. So, I was trying to piece together the. John Doe statements of the Title N. investigation and what they state. happened based off of their redacted. names and the I'll get into all of that, but there are people that are wrongfully. being doxed, like wrong individuals. being doxed as being the Cornell 7. Lots. of Asian people with the name Winston.
Lee are getting doxed from just like. everywhere. Some of the accused are. reportedly fleeing the country, leaving. the country, though I will say those are. unconfirmed rumors. And right now it's. not even clear if there's anything. barring them from legally traveling or. leaving the country. But you get it. Protests are being held at Cornell. There are calls for the president of. Cornell to resign. There's a social. media campaign that some people have set. forth to try and dox Jane Doe. And then. a bigger social media campaign to.
protect Jane Do's identity with women. sharing I am Jane Doe on social media to. confuse the algorithm to confuse people. on who really is the real Jane Doe. while they also share stories of their. own what they went through in university. colleges or just their own experiences. of being essayed. Meanwhile, Jane do has. been apparently getting text messages. and one has been publicized. It's been. um reported her house got swatted. >> What? >> Yeah. And she's getting very threatening. text messages. One of them reads, "If.
you care about your family, withdraw the. case. You're accusing my cousin of. something he didn't do. Do you want to. see redacted brains in front of. redacted? So it seems like do you want. to see maybe like a family member loved. ones brains in front of another family. member? If so, don't withdraw the case. She recorded a phone call that she. received in which there's a strange. voice. It's almost as if someone is. using something to manipulate their. voice. >> Mhm. >> Hello. Hello.
To be honest, man, I'm probably just. going to like pull up to your house, bro. Like, different people in your family. trying to piss me off by ignoring me. Like, why did you lie on my on my. brother Jonathan, bro? >> So, there's no indication that this. individual is related to Jonathan. Newell, >> but you know, that's what they say. And. you're just like ignoring me. Why would. you accuse my innocent brother, Jonathan? [ __ ] up, dude. my brother.
Jonathan, man. And you accuse him of. something he didn't do. Innocent, innocent guy. And you just sit there and. be quiet. I'd be quiet, too, if I lied. about something. You're [ __ ] I can. hear you. I can hear you breathing. Instead of speaking out, you're just. sitting there quiet. >> Yeah, bro. If you want to keep ignoring. me, bro. Like, I can't I can't guarantee. you'll be sane, bro. Like, seriously. I'm just being being very honest with. you. Does he have anything to say for. yourself or no? And all the while that's happening, the.
internet has become completely divided. after new text messages have come out. where Jane Doe tells one of the accused. that nothing illegal happened that. night. Some netizens are arguing this is. exactly what happens when someone is. experiencing trauma. This is textbook. for someone to be in denial about what. they've endured. Other netizens are. arguing this is proof that she is not. being entirely truthful about her. allegations. Why would she confirm. nothing illegal happened and then say. something illegal happened? Maybe this. is not a case of essay and this is a. case of remorse. Other netizens are.
passionately debating where is the line. of consent. Is it just the words no? Is. it enthusiastic consent? Is it coercion? Like what is where's the line? And also. the Snapchat messages. But that is where I leave you with part. one. Stay tuned for part two. I'm sure. there will be a lot more updates. included in that one cuz it seems there. is new breaking information every day on. this case. Stay safe and I'll see you in. the next one.