Big-Pharma Billionaires’ Bodies FOUND Hanging By The Pool During A House-Showing

Elise Stern is one of the top real. estate agents in all of Toronto and it. was December 15th of 2017. It's a Friday. morning, 22° F in Toronto. She's about. to show two clients from China and their. realtor a $6.9. million mansion. This house feels very. inconspicuous from the outside. You. wouldn't know it's a $7 million house. Back when it was built, the house was. considered a modern mansion. It's got.

these sharp square angular designs and. these very high ceilings. It's. constructed from what looks like. concrete slabs and back in the day, you. know those glass bricks? Do you know. what I'm talking about? They're like. glorified glass cubes that are blurry. and you can't really look into it. Mhm. of that is used. Now in 2017, it does. feel a little bit outdated and a little. bit cold, honestly. The asking price of. nearly $7 million though is due to the. size of the house and the location. I. mean, this place is massive. Three.

levels, 12,000 sq ft, 4,000 sq ft per. level of the home, but the main selling. point is the zip code. The neighborhood. is filled with successful families, owners of businesses, CEOs of major. corporations, doctors, surgeons and now. a ton of foreign investors are coming in. like this Chinese couple. Now to give. you some context, this very house that. Elise was about to give a tour of. belonged to Barry and Honey Sherman, one.

of the richest families in all of. Canada, if not the world. Their. estimated net worth is close to $7. billion. They owned the largest pharmaceutical. company in Canada. You could argue. they're big pharma. The couple would. host gatherings in this house with elite. Canadian business figures and even the. Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau. He. frequented the Sherman family residence. I think that gives you some sort of. insight on what kind of neighborhood.

this is, but also what kind of home this. is. Hopefully, the potential buyers are. going to be impressed by the location, the size, the outdoor swimming pool, the. outdoor tennis court, jacuzzi, cedar. sauna and the underground lap pool. When. they pull into the driveway, Elise. starts her tour. She opens up the front. door and inside the housekeeper is. there. Elise makes a little bit of small talk. while leading the potential buyers from. room to room. She knows which features. to dwell on. The big kitchen, people.

like that. Spacious living room, great. for families, people like that. The. modern spiral staircase that leads down. into the basement, people like that. And. Elise knew which rooms to just kind of. breeze past. And this is the the hobby. room, media room, I guess if you will. The clients kind of poked their heads. into this room and Elise knew that this. room was kind of creepy. It was probably. part of her plan to spend as little time. as possible in this room with potential. buyers. But so the room itself is all. right. It's the choice of art. Inside. the media room, there are two colorful.

life-size figures, human size. And. they're not even figures, they look. straight up like sculptures of one. woman, one man. They're sitting next to. each other side by side on top of these. giant speakers and they're multimedia. sculptures. So these humans, they're. made of not just marble or clay, but. they're made of like license plates, old. wood, pipes, pieces of skateboards. So. it's like some kind of art? Yeah, they. look like a sustainable version of Ex. Machina, you know, the AI robot, if she. was made up of like recycled material.

only. Mhm. It's just a decoration. though. Yeah, but people think they look. kind of like creepy mannequins, honestly. It's a very specific type of. art that only rich and eccentric people. would be into. And Elise didn't like it. and she could sense that the Chinese. buyers didn't like it either. It's. rumored that Elise actually begged the. Shermans to put the statues into storage. while they did the real estate listing. photos and the tours of the home, but. they refused. They loved their very. interesting, eccentric art. Elise tries.

to make this very quick. She's like, "This is the media room. Like let's just. head out." But as she's leading the. clients out of this media room, she does. notice something. The window to the room. is open about 6 in. Interesting. She leads them down into. the basement next. So there are two. staircases that lead down here. This is. the main one. Oh, sorry. She starts. quickly turning on all the lights. "This. is the recreation room. Then you have. the sitting room, the garage and" Elise. sees in front of the six-car garage door.

a few papers are just dropped on the. floor. Like literally middle of the. hallway, on the ground. A pair of. driving gloves are also next to it and a. Blackberry. It feels messy. Elise. remembers thinking, "What the hell? I'm. trying to sell a house here. I'm trying. to sell a house." Blackberry, the phone? Yeah. Okay. She smiles, bends down, quickly picks everything up and she knew. that this was Barry Sherman's Blackberry. because he's the only person that she. knows that still uses a Blackberry. So. she quickly picks them all up, puts them. on the ledge and smiles and then opens.

the door to the underground garage. Then. it's the cedar saunas and now, ah yes, the indoor lap pool. So in Canada, you have to have security. features to keep children out, so you. just press this. Elise reaches above her. shoulder height, presses a red button. and opens the door to the indoor pool. The lights of the indoor pool are not. on, but like most pools, it has a pool. light. So imagine a pitch black room. with no windows cuz this is basement. level. There's no exterior, there's no.

skylight, no sun in this room, right? Pitch black, but the light in the pool. is on and it's being filtered through. the water and this very dark blue pool. cover. It's almost just adding like a. weird eerie glow into the room. A. slightly blue black hue to everything. And it's a big room. I mean, the pool. itself is 45 ft from one end to another. Wow. I'm sorry, I'm going to get very. descriptive, but this this room is very. important. The pool itself has two lanes. and they have these silver railings.

around the perimeter of the pool. It. kind of reminds me of Pilates bar or. like the ballet bars that are made of. steel, but instead of going into the. pool like a handrail, it's just on the. side. Like giant staples just stapled to. the edge of the floor. Mhm. Yeah, it's. very interesting. Like a little fence. Yes, but it's not really a fence because. anyone under 3 ft could just slide right. in and fall into the pool. It's literally just a U-shape upside. down. For my audio listeners, right? But. if you guys are watching the video, I'm. going to put a picture. I imagine if.

it's you're trying to walk out of the. pool into the jacuzzi because that's. kind of where those railings start and. stop. Mhm. Okay. I think that's why they. put it. The railings come about stomach. height, so it feels like feels like. handrails. They're about 3 ft tall. So. they walk in a little bit. They don't. turn on the light and the other agent, the one representing the Chinese buyers, asks Elise, "What's that?". Elise kind of looks in the general. direction that he's looking at and her. brain stops for a split second. That's. what she says.

You know when your brain doesn't. actually know what you're seeing? She saw them, the Shermans. They're sitting on the floor on the edge. of the pool and they're facing away from. the pool, away from Elise and them. and just kind of sitting there eerily. still in darkness. Their heads were kind. of extended as if they were being held. up by something and it was just so. bizarre and unexpected. Elise wasn't. immediately connecting any of the dots. It is likely that Elise was in shock. Elise didn't speak, so the other agent,

his name is Zhao, he fills the silence. with something along the lines of, "Oh, maybe just some more weird art.". Cuz I think he also doesn't know what's. going on and considering they just saw. some weird statues, he thinks, "Wow, these homeowners are kind of weird." And. Elise said, "I thought, yeah, okay, let's just go with that." So I said, "Yeah, yeah, they like weird art.". Elise said that she did think perhaps. that maybe the Shermans were doing yoga. next to the pool. Elise knew that one of the Sherman kids.

was a yoga instructor, so maybe they. were practicing. But regardless, it was. weird. She rushed them all out of there. because and I quote, "I had my head on. enough to know that whatever was going. on, these strangers don't need to be a. part of it. It was just a weird vibe.". It was just a weird thing. Wait a. minute. So they see the Shermans sitting. there. Yeah. In the kind of strange yoga-like pose. Yes. They're not approaching to say. hello. No.

They just left. Yeah. Okay. Clearly Elise knew that something. was weird because she ends the tour. early, rushes the clients out of there. and had one of the staff at home run. downstairs to check on the Shermans and. they were not doing yoga. The. billionaire couple were dead. and they were posed just like the. statues in their media room, sitting. next to their indoor lap pool, hanging. from the pool railing. So remember how. she said their necks looked extended?

Mhm. Because there was a belt around. their necks that was hanging to the 3-ft. steel railing. Mhm. They were posed with. their legs crossed as if they just sat. down to read a newspaper side by side. and they were dead, posed like the. creepy statues from their media room. And all signs pointed to they were. murdered. You know how it's said that. you only get justice if you're rich? These are billionaires that we're. talking about. If anyone's going to get. justice in our weird justice system, it's going to be billionaires, right?

Maybe not. Not when it seems like almost everyone. in their lives had motive to kill them. The Shermans were big pharma. billionaires. They had four heirs, four. children that were going to be instant. billionaires the moment that they passed. away. They had cousins who claimed it. was their birthright to have a billion. dollars of the Sherman fortune. A. relative who admitted to fantasizing. about killing Barry Sherman. He said he. He. about killing his cousin and then. kicking his head around. They had a. sister-in-law who claimed she was. promised $300 million couple. They have.

high-level executives at Apotex, their. big pharma company, that were allegedly. trading company secrets. An alleged best. friend who reportedly received around. $250 million in funds from the couple. but wanted more. The Shermans had over. 100 lawsuits against them at one point. Government connections and over a. billion dollars worth of highly. sought-after drugs in their. headquarters. So, for this case, the. easier question would be who wouldn't.

want to kill the Shermans? And as of right now, there's a privately. funded multi-million dollar private. investigation in the works and one of. the highest rewards in history at stake, $35 million if you know who killed the. Sherman couple. What's going on? Like they any they say. anybody can solve it, here's the money? Like how would you even be able to prove. that? Like show evidence? Yes. And go to court? The crazy thing is the speculation out. there is there is somebody who knew. something because this is not a. one-person job is the speculation.

And there is life-changing money on the. table. So, maybe the only reason someone. won't talk is because $35 million. is not worth being dead. Mhm. Or $35. million is less than however much they. got. Wow. [music]. [music].

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released by the authorities. Netizens. have gone crazy over this case, speculating on who did what, who has. motive, which side note, all of this. that we're talking about, purely. speculations. But the tricky thing about this case is, you know how other unsolved cases we've. covered, there's usually like one or two. parties where you're like, mhm, okay, they do seem a little bit suspicious and. I can see why the internet is wary of. them. But with this case, there are. truly so many possibilities on who could. have motive and it's looking to be one.

of those cases where we may never really. know the truth, which is crazy. considering two billionaires were. allegedly murdered and one would imagine. that kind of case gets solved quickly. but here we are. And another thing to. note, this case seems incredibly. secretive. Everyone connected to the. billionaires seems very hesitant to talk. to anyone. There is a lot going on, you'll see, and I want to say most of. what we know today about this case is. thanks to one journalist by the name of. Kevin Donovan. He wrote a book on this.

case called The Billionaire Murders and. obviously, while the subject of the book. is incredibly heavy, we're dealing with. two deaths, I will say that he's very. talented at not just writing but also. his job as an investigative journalist. He is the one that spoke to hundreds of. people that were close to the family. I. mean, I feel like at times he probably. risked his career and his life maybe. even to dig into this case. He's gone. all the way to the Supreme Courts in. Canada to get information on this case. He is an author, podcaster, docu-series. producer. He's followed this case since.

the beginning. He's interviewed, re-interviewed family, friends, public. sources, even the billionaire family's. private investigators to just get the. most comprehensive information that is. now available to the public thanks to. him. So, all in all, check out Kevin. Donovan. I'm going to link all of his. stuff in the description. I mean, our. team can really only aspire to be like. 10% of his talent. And with that being. said, another quick disclaimer. We're. talking about a bunch of billionaires. today. There are a lot of theories as to. who did what in today's case and I'm.

going to be presenting to you the main. list of people that the internet. suspects of being guilty. But again, keep in mind, nobody has been charged or. convicted of a crime. Anything that I. say in today's episode is opinion and. not a fact, is theory, not a fact, internet speculations that have been. compiled into an easy to consume video. These are not facts. These are theories. and opinions. Also, because this case is. still ongoing, anyone who may recognize. this person, if you guys are watching.

the video, is asked to contact the. investigative team, which I will leave a. list on how to contact them down in the. description. So, with that being said, let's get into it. So many parts of this. case feel like one of those who done it. knives out movies. Inside the mansion. where billionaires Barry and Honey were. found, there were three other people. The housekeeper, the gardener, and the. real estate agent. When the police arrived to the house, they separated the three immediately and. they started asking them questions. How. is it that three people are in the house.

moving around, cleaning, watering indoor. plants, giving a tour and nobody saw the. dead body sooner? The housekeeper told. the police what happened since she. arrived at the house. I arrived at around 8:25 a.m. Nelia, the. housekeeper, said she did notice a few. things that seemed maybe out of place. but nothing very alarming. So, first, she noticed that Honey's Lexus was. parked in her normal spot outside the. house. She never parked it in the. garage. There's snow on the car, no tire. tracks, meaning she had been home at. least overnight and she was likely still.

home cuz her car is in the driveway. Nelia turned off her car, steps out into. the snowy driveway, and that's when she. said it hit her. She's like, such an odd feeling. She said, I felt a black feeling when I. approached the home. That's how she describes it. And she thought, maybe it's just the. drabby weather. It is 22° gloomy and. snowing. She rushes to the front door. where she sees the Toronto Star. This is. Barry Sherman's favorite newspaper and. usually by the time that Nelia gets to. the house, he's already taken it in from.

the front door and reading it while he's. like drinking a cup of coffee. What time. is it? Do you know? 8:25 a.m. Okay. But it's Friday morning, maybe the. couple had a long night. So, she said, I. picked up the newspaper, came in through. the service door on the side of the. house. The front door is exclusively for. deliveries of the morning paper and, you. know, the prime minister. As Nelia is about to slip inside, she. spots another car pull up, Megan Young, the personal trainer for the couple. She. thought, okay, I might as well wait for. her because what's the point of going in.

and then I got to open the side door. again for her. So, she stands in the. snow. Megan's kind of rushing towards. her. She unlocks the door with the key, steps inside, and the alarm system is. off. Cuz usually it starts beeping, you. got to enter a code or disarm the home, right? It's off. It's weird because the billionaires, they don't have any CCTV in the house. Yeah, they were like really against it. for some reason. I wonder if they. thought people would could hack into it. or listen. But they only had like alarm. system for windows breaking or doors. opening, things like that, I imagine.

And they usually kept it on when they're. asleep or when they're home. It's always. on even if they're not asleep. Mhm. Okay, so he didn't come out to grab the. newspaper, meaning he hasn't leave the. house at all. So, likely the house is. still armed. Yes. But it's not armed. Not armed. It's weird. It's very weird. She said that she had been working with. the Shermans for about 3 years and. rarely ever saw the alarm off when the. couple were inside the house. Mhm. And. the police are like, okay, then what. else happened?

Well, so Nelia had let in the furnace. company worker. The family had been. using this specific furnace tech company. for years because the mansion had four. furnaces. So, Nelia lets him in and he. goes into the basement with his tools to. do some work. Wait, so how many people's in here now? There's a bunch of people in there but. they're all going to leave. Oh, but. okay. So, furnace person is one person. or One. Okay. So, he's in the basement. just in like one of those utility rooms. So, it's like those unmade basement. rooms where all the security functions.

are and stuff like that. So, he's in. there working on the furnace. Nelia then goes to try and find her. bosses because, you know, their personal. trainer Megan is there for a session. She goes upstairs, pokes her head into. Honey's room. Honey's not there and her. bed is made. Strange. She goes into. Barry's room. So, yeah, they sleep. separately because Barry is known to. have insomnia and when he finally falls. asleep, they say he sounds like a bear. in hibernation. She pokes her head into. Barry's room. He's not there and his bed. is made. Strange. Nelia thought, okay, maybe they.

left early. She checked Honey's bathroom and her. sink is dry. I mean, all of this is. strange but it's not as alarming as you. would think. The Shermans, like most. wealthy families in Toronto, they have. winter homes where they have condos in. warm areas like Florida or Southern. California to escape once the winter. gets unbearable. Maybe they left without. telling her. Nelia told Megan that the Shermans. weren't home and she didn't know when. they would be back. Megan's like, okay, let me just like. stick around and wait a little bit just.

in case. But eventually, both Megan, the. personal trainer, and the furnace. worker, they leave. The housekeeper did. notice something that was odd. She was cleaning the main floor and in. the guest bathroom, the powder room, so. it's like a half bath, not even a shower. in there, Honey's iPhone was on the. floor. So, she picked it up and just put it on. the vanity near the sink. Wait, what room one more time? It's like. the powder room, like a half bath. On the main floor. Mhm. So, it's like when you have guests. over, you'd probably direct them to that. bathroom. Right. Okay. Mhm. It's weird.

So, she puts it on the vanity and goes. back to mopping. And it wasn't until. around 10:45 a.m. that the house starts. getting a bit busier. Real estate agent. Zhao and his two Chinese clients show. up. They're let in by the Sherman. couple's realtor, Elise Stern. Elise and Nelia have a quick chat where, you know, Nelia's like, "I don't I don't. think they're home right now.". And Elise is like, "Okay, well, can you. help me turn on all the lights?" And. Elise felt kind of annoyed, I'm sure. Maybe it was a bit of an inconvenience. The Sherman couple were supposed to give. Elise a home inspection report, and now.

she didn't have it since they weren't. home. She decides to kind of look around the. house for it, but it's not there. No matter. She shows the Chinese couple. the upstairs, the main floor, the. kitchen, all the appliances, and this is. the guest powder room. Elise's eye. caught on something sparkly on the. vanity near the sink. And she thought it. was odd. She said, "A cell phone. I didn't know. it was Honey's at the time. It was where. the sink was, and it was just weird. because I didn't know who it was, and it. was all glitzy and sparkly, and I. remember thinking, whose cell phone is.

this?". Again, not alarming. So, Elise goes on. the rest of her tour, shows them the. upstairs, the main floor, even the hobby. room with the creepy statues. Again, at. that moment, nothing felt sinister, but. Elise remembers that window being open. in the hobby room. She said it was open. about 6 in. and she thought maybe because that hobby. room had just been repainted, they're. airing out the paint smell. Mhm. It's weird. Yeah. Mhm. She didn't think twice about it, and. when they went into the pool room, they. saw another two statues sitting next to.

the pool. The other realtor and. potential buyers, they just believed it. was more weird art. Elise knew that. there was no art in the pool room. It was odd. So, she quickly gets them. upstairs, ends the tour early, and the. clients are like, "Well, can we at least. like walk around the outside of the. property to see what the backyard looks. like?" And she's like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, go do your thing.". She rushes to the housekeeper, and at. this point, the gardener had just. arrived and was already watering some. houseplants on the main floor, mainly. orchids. The Shermans loved orchids. And. Elise asks the housekeeper, "Can you go.

downstairs to check on the Shermans? They're in the pool room." Which is a. very normal, easy request, right? But. Nelia immediately starts freaking out, which is weird. And it just made everyone anxious. because she just kept screaming, "What's. wrong? What's wrong? What's wrong?" And. she explained that she had a black. feeling when she walked in the house, she had a black feeling. Also, side note, I think that Nelia's. anxiety comes from the fact that so many. weird things had happened earlier in the. morning, and she knew that Honey never. willingly went into the basement because. her knees were bad.

Honey almost never went to the basement. the whole iPhone on the floor and Yeah. That's odd. So, Claire, the gardener, who just recently arrived, she's like, "You know what? I'll go downstairs and. check." It's said that she grabbed a. butter knife from the kitchen, ran. downstairs, navigates through this large. basement, through the hallway. The. indoor pool is in like the most secluded. part of the basement. Cuz you know, basements usually have like a media room. and there's like the common areas. This. is like on the deepest corner. She walks. in and walks the length of the pool, 45.

ft to the deepest corner, and she walks. straight up to the figures. It was the Shermans. Claire runs back. upstairs where Elise and Nelia are. anxiously waiting for her, and she. announces, "They're dead.". They were dead, and they had been dead. for a while. Elise, the realtor, made a quick call to. Honey's sister, Mary, and then she. called the police at 11:43 a.m. She said, "Somebody killed my clients.". I'm going to give you a breakdown on how.

their bodies were found, and I'm going. to try and be as descriptive as possible. in case you're listening to the audio. version. But for the video version on. YouTube, there is a drawing that depicts. the scene. I don't know if it's going to. get past YouTube, but we'll see. The. Shermans are half laying, half sitting. side by side next to the pool. So, you. know how you sit and you sit crisscross. applesauce? Mhm. Well, their legs are. kind of extended, which is not really a. comfortable way to sit without anything. supporting your back. Yeah. It's like an L shape, right? That's how. they're sitting, and they're both facing. away from their pool. Their legs are.

outstretched, not bent, and around their. necks were leather belts that were tied. to the 3-ft tall handrail above their. heads. That is the only reason they're. half sitting. If their necks were not. tied, their bodies would have just been. laying flat on the ground. Mhm. What is. it tied by? Leather belts. Their lips. were purple. There was dried blood on. Honey's face, whereas Barry's face did. not show any injuries. He was still. wearing his glasses, and they didn't. even look disturbed, so they were. sitting very nicely on his face, which a.

lot of witnesses said. he looked very peaceful. One of Barry's. legs was crossed over the other, just. like the statue in their media room. But. also, it's just very odd that he looked. so relaxed, like he's about to read his. morning paper. Barry and Honey's jackets were pulled. halfway down, so it's resting on their. elbows. So, imagine you put on your jacket and. then pull it halfway off. Now your arms. are kind of restricted. Mhm. So, it would have likely made it harder. for him to use his arms because of the. way that his jacket was positioned.

And here is what is quickly gathered. from a scene like this, that these two. most likely died from hanging. Hanging. is typically associated as a choice that. one makes for themselves, right? And not. typically considered a homicide. But. it's very hard to differentiate between. hanging and strangulation. Mhm. Cuz there're ligature marks around. the neck. That's how you pass, right? But let's be real. The way that their. bodies are found, the way that they're. positioned, it just feels off. It. doesn't make sense. It doesn't feel like.

they made that choice. And what makes. the whole thing even fishier is that the. police will soon rule out foul play, not. officially, but basically, okay? They. stated that they had no suspects that. they're going to be going after, which. to a lot of journalists sounds like. you're ruling out foul play. It's. interpreted by the media as the police. either believe that this is a double. exit and they both decided, "Let's exit. life together." Or one of them killed. one and then exited. Mhm. Even though.

they didn't state it outright, their. verbage implied that's what they're. thinking because if it's a double. homicide, they'd be like, "We're looking. for suspects." Because there's no way. that this is accidental. This is not. medical or a natural death. And if. they're not looking for suspects at. this, that must mean that they don't. think any outside parties are involved. The Sherman couple's four adult children. were not happy with this theory. I mean, it was all over front-page news. everywhere, not just in Canada, but. internationally in like the business. spheres, especially like the health care. industries. The idea was their father.

killed his wife and then himself. So, the four adult kids, they. immediately release a press release that. read, "Our parents shared an enthusiasm. for life and commitment to their family. and community, and it's totally. inconsistent with the rumors regrettably. circulating in the media as to the. circumstances surrounding their deaths. We are shocked, and we think it's. irresponsible that police sources have. reportedly advised the media of this. theory, which neither their family, their. friends, nor their colleagues believe to. be true." So, they're basically saying,

"That's not our parents. That's not. something our dad would do." The now. billionaire children sued the press and. the police, including the Toronto Star, which is Barry's morning paper of. choice. Because the double exit theory. just didn't make sense for most people. It just didn't make sense that the. couple would be like, "Okay, let's go. together, and this is how we're going to. do it." I I mean, I couldn't find. reputable statistics on how many people. choose to exit their lives by sitting. down like this and using that type of. method, but one would imagine it's.

pretty low. And to do it as a couple, it. just doesn't make sense, but I mean, I. guess nothing in life is impossible, but. it just doesn't seem plausible. So, initially, people start agreeing with. the police theory. They're running with. this murder-suicide theory, especially. after the initial autopsy findings were. released. The forensics examined the. bodies to zero in first on the possible. time of death. Cuz they're like, "We know that they. were found Friday morning, but it seems. like they had been there for a while.". Mhm. To simply put it, you can use two. things to narrow down the time. Well, you can use a lot, but livor mortis and.

rigor mortis. So, livor mortis refers to. the process of when your heart stops. pumping blood, and different parts of. the body will start showing skin. discoloration. Cuz when you think about. it, the gravitational settling of the. blood is different depending on what. position you're in, and how quickly that. blood starts settling can kind of zone. in on some time. So, this typically. starts showing within 30 minutes to 2. hours after death, and it becomes even. more pronounced near like the 4-6 hour. mark. Rigor mortis, I'm sure is a bit a.

term that's more familiar to us, is the. stiffening of the muscles after death. So, it happens relatively quickly after. death, and then it slowly weans away. after 24-84 hours, typically. The Sherman bodies were limp when they. were discovered, meaning enough time had. passed for rigor mortis to set in and. then wean away. Wow. So, based on that and livor mortis, the forensic experts estimated the. couple had been dead for at least 30. hours, meaning their time of death was.

narrowed down to Wednesday night. So, they were found Friday morning, Wednesday night around 9:00 to 11:00. p.m. There were no fatal or illicit. drugs in the couple's systems at the. time of death. There were also no signs. of forced entry in the home. It didn't. appear that anything was taken or stolen. or that someone had been looking for. something. It wasn't ransacked. So, if. they were the only ones there, what. happened? Going off the fact that Honey. had injuries to her face while Barry did. not, the theory was Barry killed Honey.

and then exited. And the biggest thing. the initial autopsy leaned into was the. fact that neither of their hyoid bones. were broken. So, the hyoid bone is a. horseshoe-shaped bone between the chin. and the thyroid. It's above the Adam's. apple. So, originally, pathologists. thought that if the hyoid bone was. broken, that meant that there was a. sudden, harsh force that was applied to. the neck. It's going to get really. technical. Statistically, it was argued, and I don't know if this is true, but. this was kind of argued with the initial. autopsy, that if one were to be.

suspended from the ceiling, but use a. chair to do it, Mhm. the hyoid bone. might be intact because there's not. enough like instant, forceful, like. boom, pressure. Whereas, if you think. about like capital punishment, where. they push you off a a platform, it's. instant. There's this drop, and it it. it's almost like snapping. Mhm. Their. bones were not broken. And in a lot of. violent strangulation homicide cases, you'll see that that bone is broken. But. both the Shermans, that bone was intact.

So, the original pathologist felt like, oh, that's more in line with Barry. killing his wife and then exiting. But. now, many pathologists argue that there. is correlation between the hyoid bone. and the manner of death, but there's no. causation. Meaning that there are too. many other factors at play, like if a. softer ligature is wrapped around the. neck, the hyoid bone is less likely to. fracture even if it's homicide. And age. is a huge factor. And there are a lot of. major arguments to the theory about all. of this. Barry was clearly not healthy.

He had a poor diet. He hated exercise. Meanwhile, even according to the initial. autopsy and the original pathologist, Honey was strong. She was around the. same weight as Barry and had. considerable bone density, which meant. that she was likely very strong. Also, Barry, according to the autopsies, had. pockets of fat all over his body, whereas Honey's muscles were. significantly more toned than his. And. reportedly, close friends said that. Honey was so tough, there was just no. way that Barry would kill her. They said. if anyone was going to kill the other in.

this couple, in this relationship, and. move the body, it would have been Honey, not Barry Sherman. Mhm. So, how did he. overpower his wife and then exit his. life by choosing to be suspended by a. very low railing where he could easily. just get up if his survival instincts. kicked in? It didn't make any sense. There were also other ligature marks. found on their wrists, which indicated. that they were both tied up at one. point. Why would Barry tie up his own. wrists if he was the culprit? Good point. But the most puzzling question of all, Barry, pharmaceutical giant, owner of a.

drug empire, if he's going to kill his. wife and then himself, would he not have. found a simpler, easier, more painless. way? He's got access to a lot of drugs. Right. Barry Sherman's will had one main. line, and it read, "I will leave. everything to my wife, Honey.". I mean, of course, there are other. details, how the estate will be handled, but Honey is also dead. Honey did not. have a will, so their collective estate. was divided equally into four parts and.

distributed to their four children, with. each child receiving about 3.2 billion. dollars. Wow. It's hard to say that someone needs to. act a certain way when they're grieving, you know? I I Me being like a nervous. laugher, I completely like stand by this. statement, right? There's no playbook. for grief or shock or how to process it, but some of those that were very close. to the Shermans, they said that some family members. responded. interestingly. Yeah. Once news broke of.

the Shermans' suspicious deaths, their actions definitely raised a few. eyebrows. So, the Sherman parents, they're now. deceased, and all four of their children. have become billionaires. And naturally, some people started suspecting, did they. have something to do with it? Because. there's a lot of money to be gained. And it seemed like the four Sherman. kids, they had very little in common. with each other, but also with their. dad, other than their net worths. None. of them wanted or were capable of taking.

over Apotex, the pharmaceutical company. Lauren, the oldest, is a yoga teacher. and a mental health counselor. How old. are they? They're in their late 20s to. like throughout their 30s. Huh. They're. adults, yeah. Mhm. So, Alexandra is another daughter, and it feels like she's probably the. most like her dad. She hates flaunting. money. She seems heavily involved in. various charitable causes, and she's. very interesting. She's the one kid that. just really wanted to do her own thing.

I feel like you kind of like know that. kid in families. She became a registered. nurse, got married, started her own. family. And side note, she was a nurse. for a shelter that helped the unhoused. She spent a lot of time working with. indigenous people in North Canada, and. she just really wanted to make her own. path for herself. And now with the. Shermans gone, it seems like she is the. most involved in continuing their. charity work. It's said that a lot of. the people in like all the relatives, they looked at her as the rock to lean. on when the couple had passed. I don't. know any of these people personally, but.

it seems like the Sherman parents were. also the closest to Alexandra. The whole. reason that the Shermans were putting up. their house for sale was because they. bought a plot of land down the street. from Alex and her family, and they were. working on constructing a new 30 million. dollar mansion to be closer to Alex and. her children. Wow. It was going to be a 16,000 square. foot house with a retractable roof, whatever that means. Like the whole. roof, a portion of the roof, I don't. know. And the day that their bodies were. found, they were supposed to come over. to Alex's house for dinner. Then you. have Kaylen. She is the youngest, and.

she was in the process of planning a. wedding that her parents were funding. She was getting married to an. electrician named Jared that she had met. online, which Jared was also now working. at Apotex thanks to Kaylen. It's rumored. that the Shermans were getting sick and. tired of funding Kaylen's insane credit. card bills every month. And they were. rumored to have been slowly cutting her. off. Not cutting her off per se, but. like funding her less and less. For. example, and this is an alleged. incident, but right before they passed,

Kaylen's car had broken down, and she. asked her parents, "Hey, can I buy a new. car?" You know, normal people get it. fixed, but billionaires, they just buy. new cars. And normally, the Shermans are. like, "Yeah, buy a new car." But this. time, allegedly, they told her, "Why. don't you get it fixed like everyone. else instead?" So, this is the part that. raises eyebrows. The rumor is, soon. after the Shermans' death, Kaylen was. heard going around talking about how her. parents had told her right before they. died to go buy a new car. So, she did. Allegedly, she bought a new car the week.

that her parents passed. And she reportedly told a few people, that is like what Dad wanted me to do, which I guess some would consider. strange. Lauren, the eldest, also. allegedly stated, "Well, if it had to. happen, it's not the worst time in their. lives to be murdered. They had finally. gotten to know my son, at least." Again, these are just, you know, kind of. hearsay. People around the family are. reporting that they heard the kids say. this, which is just kind of weird, right? Which, if true, I think is interesting. But nothing was as strange as some of.

the reports coming out about Jonathan. Allegedly, he was very interesting at. the time of his parents' death. The. whole family had gotten together. afterwards, all the relatives, and. people reported that he was leaning on. anyone he could find nearby. He was. hugging people, throwing himself on the. ground screaming, "Oh my god! Oh my god! Oh my god!" He was drinking scotch, crying on people's shoulders, and then. later in the night, others recall him. being completely composed. So, I guess. that raised some eyebrows from people. Mary was also a family member that.

raised a lot of eyebrows. Mary is. Honey's sister, and when she heard the. news, she immediately boarded a private. jet from Florida, where her winter condo. is. And just to give you some context, Mary is not independently wealthy, so. she is financially dependent on her. sister, Honey, and her brother-in-law, Barry Sherman. She claims that she did. exchange work for all of these funds, but I'm sure it was probably not the. market rate, you know? She's not independently wealthy. She. flew on a private jet back to Toronto. and allegedly went around telling anyone.

who would listen that Honey, her sister, had promised her 300 million dollars. right before she died. She also downed a. ton of drinks and snapped at Jack K, which is one of Barry's first business. partners in Apotex, and would later be. the CEO of Apotex briefly, and just. straight up screamed at him along with. Honey's best friend since childhood, just like making a scene. But really, none of that even would. compare to Kerry Winter. Kerry Winter is Barry Sherman's cousin,

and he stated that the couple deserved. to die. And honestly, he stated it should have. been worse. Their heads should have been. twisted off and kicked around like. soccer balls. Kerry said, "Barry Sherman. was a curse. Anyone who associated with. him would end up with bad luck." He. cared about one thing. Money. Making lots of it. And not caring who he. destroyed, who he stepped on. So, why. does Kerry hate Barry Sherman, his own.

cousin, so much? Mhm. That is. a billion dollar question. Literally. Kerry sued his cousin, Barry. Sherman, for a billion dollars. Kerry and his brothers were allegedly. referred to in the family as the Winter. orphans because their parents, Lou and. Beverly Winter, passed when they were. young. And the Winter orphans consisted. of adopted son, Tim, and then three. biological sons, Jeffrey, Kerry, and. Dana. So, Tim, Jeffrey, Kerry, Dana.

They all hate Barry. The last three sons. hate Barry the most. Tim kind of does. his own thing cuz he's a chef, but the. last three sons, they felt like they. were all owed a piece of the. pharmaceutical company, Apotex, and. Barry Sherman had screwed them over. Did. they explain why, how? Oh, yeah. We're going to get into it. So, Apotex is the largest pharmaceutical. company in Canada and the seventh. largest globally. It's founded and led. by Barry Sherman. Net worths, I don't. think are really ever accurate, but it's.

suggested that at least Barry Sherman. was worth like 7 billion. And probably more. Apotex is said to. sell over 300 generic drugs in more than. 115 countries. They fill over 89 million. prescriptions a year in Canada alone. They manufacture over 25 billion doses. of drugs a year and annual global. revenues are estimated to be around 1.6. billion dollars. And that's just half of. where Barry Sherman wanted to take. Apotex. His company goal that he's on.

track for before he passed was to reach. 50 billion doses. So, you're looking at. if you double that, if we just make it. maybe even 3 billion dollars in revenue. a year. Their HQ is in Toronto and globally they. employ around 11,000 employees. And side. note about the headquarters, it feels. more like the Federal Reserve. It's got. higher security than Area 51 in the US. Apotex headquarters has these concrete. and steel walls that are about 2 feet.

thick and locked behind this giant. vault. At any given time, they've got. nearly 1.3 billion dollars worth of. active pharmaceutical ingredients. waiting to be made into coveted. painkillers. Entry into the vault is granted by a. fingerprint lock that only two people. can open. We have no idea who these two. people are. And by the way, the door. itself into the vault weighs 1,000. pounds. Yeah. Side note, Sherman did step down as CEO.

in 2014, but he's heavily involved. He's. still the chairman. He really was a tank in the. pharmaceutical industry, Barry Sherman. People said that he's like a real-life. human scanner. He's got a photographic. memory and if you give him like a. 100-page intense legal document, high. stakes, incredible, all the legal. jargon, 100 pages, he would sit there. and he would have it so close to his. face like a human scanner, like a robot, scanning each page, taking zero notes, put it down, and he'd say, "Looks good, but there's a typo on page 42.".

And sure enough there was. He also had some sheer confidence. backing him up. One time his business. partner asked him, "Why do you think. we're going to be successful when others. have failed?" And he responded, "Because. I'm smarter than everyone else.". Damn. But just because your cousin. creates a billion-dollar company, does. that make you entitled to a piece? This one is tricky. It's complicated and. it goes all the way back to Barry's. childhood. Before being a billionaire, it was just Butterball Barry. That was.

his nickname. In school he was described. as a butterball and sluggish. He was. very lethargic. He seemed perpetually. sleepy. He was physically awkward, introverted, unless you talk about God. Yeah. Over the years, if someone said, "Thank God" in front of Barry, he would. say, "There is no God.". I don't know. [laughter]. Which is fascinating because Honey is. very religious. Yeah. He also says that. it's incomprehensible that intelligent. people believe in, quote, "preposterous. mythologies." Those are his words, not. mine. So, growing up, Barry didn't seem.

that great at studying, like at all. But. later in high school, his competitive. nature just kicks into high gear and he. knew that he was really good at the math. and sciences. People even called him a. genius. His closest friend said, "That. guy had insomnia even when he was a. kid." Like not even as an adult he. developed insomnia. And it's probably. cuz his mind never shuts off. But there. was definitely some trauma early on. So, one day Barry's dad owned like a small. zipper manufacturing company, like where. they manufacture zippers. And his dad.

went to work, never came back home. He had a heart. attack and died. Barry learned that his dad had been. hiding a congenital heart defect and did. not tell anyone in the family. Nobody. saw it coming. Nobody. And now Barry's mom had to raise. all of her kids on her own and it was. tough. Barry started college at 16 at. the University of Toronto, then went on. to get a PhD in astrophysics from MIT. At MIT, he had a 5.0 GPA and his whole. life goal was to work at NASA one day. I.

mean, just to give you an idea of how. smart this guy was, his thesis at MIT. was called precision gravity gradient. satellite altitude control. I don't even. know what that means. And he eventually. received a patent from the US government. for his thesis. During the summers he. didn't want to just sit around, so he. looked for anything that could gain. experience and it was kind of perfect. because his uncle, Uncle Lou Winter, Carrie's father, owned a generic drug. company called Empire Labs. Empire Labs. at the time focused on running pregnancy. tests. So, I'm going to like take it way.

back then. So, you know how these days. you can pee on a stick at home and it. tells you if you're pregnant or not, right? Mhm. Back in the day they didn't. have that. So, you would have to go to a. doctor's office, pee in a cup, they. would send it to a diagnostics lab like. Empire Labs, and then they would run the. test through these crazy machines and. tech that they have, then tell the. doctor the results. So, he was basically. a urine delivery boy, if I'm putting it. nicely. He would just deliver urine. But. he quickly ranks up. Even under Uncle. Lou, who is known to be a crazy. temperamental boss, he would get red in.

the face and scream at anyone that did. something that he didn't like or didn't. think that he was smart enough. So, Barry is getting very fascinated working. under Uncle Lou. He's like, "Ooh, the. pharmaceutical industry." He's learning. a lot and he's probably learning a lot. about how much money there is to be. made. And then tragedy struck again. So, Beverly is Uncle Lou's wife. This is. Barry's maternal aunt. She's diagnosed. with leukemia and things are not looking. great. So, when Barry gets an urgent. call from his sister about the Winters, he's assuming, "Oh my god, Aunt Beverly.

died." But his sister's like, "No, it's. Uncle Lou.". Uncle Lou passed away. He had an. aneurysm in his brain that burst. He was. dead. And then a few months later, Beverly passed away. And now the. Winters, the four cousins, they were. orphans technically. All they had were. Empire Labs, but they were young. Like I. think the oldest was 7 years old at the. time. Barry was 23. So, the four Winter. orphans, and that's how the family. referred to them, allegedly, not me. They were adopted by a local couple that. had happened to be doctors. But Carrie.

would claim that these adopted parents. were very abusive. And the whole point. of Empire Labs was a board of trustees. would take over. They would grow it, grow it, grow it, maintain it until the. Winter kids were of age and then either. it would be sold and they would get the. profits or the Winter kids would take. over once they were age. Cuz you know, what can a 7-year-old do? Yeah, yeah. And they they they don't want to just. shut down Empire Labs, right? It was. handed over to a board who appointed a. new CEO and Barry saw this and they saw. them destroying his uncle's company. So,

Barry and his best friend Joel, they. take loans from their parents, basically. their parents' life savings, begged the. board to let them buy Empire Labs before. they run it to the ground. And it took 2. years for them to convince Empire Labs, the board, to be sold to Barry and Joel. Okay. own Empire Labs and they know that a big. portion of this company is owned by the. Winter kids. So, the Winter kids legally. own 20% of Empire Labs and then Barry. owns the rest. Okay, so four kids owns.

20 and. 5% each. So, the first day in office, Barry told his best friend from high. school, his business partner, "We're. going to be millionaires.". The next day, after looking over all the. company documents, he looked at his best. friend and said, "We're going to be. bankrupt.". Barry and his best friend ran Empire. Labs for about 5 years. They were the. only reason the company was profitable. and efficient. And after 5 years they. sold the company for 2 million dollars. Probably with inflation, let's say. closer to like 5, 10, right? Which later it's argued that without.

Barry Empire Labs would be nothing. It. wouldn't even have been sold because the. CEO before Barry was losing his marbles. Mhm. And a portion of the proceeds would. go to the Winter kids because they owned. a portion of Empire Labs. Mhm. So, they. sell the company and they launch Apotex, which is a combination of the word. apothecary, which refers to pharmacies. back in the day, and then the suffix. tex, which just sounds cool. So, Apotex. But the Winter brothers, they were young. when their parents died. They didn't. really understand what was going on. All.

they knew was that when they were young, they were rich. They had a Rolls-Royce, they had a yacht in their family. Then. their parents died. There was a. profitable business. When they got. older, Empire Labs was gone, shut down, sold, then shut down and in its place. was a new pharmaceutical giant called. Apotex. Okay. And Barry informed them, "No, you don't own a portion of Apotex. because I started Apotex with my other. buddies. It's got no relation to Empire. Labs." But the Winter brothers felt like.

without Empire Labs, would you even have. Apotex? And did you start Apotex just so we. wouldn't have a portion of Empire Labs? I'm sure the theory is you could have. grown Empire Labs to be the size of. Apotex, but instead you strategically. sold it and then restarted Apotex. I. mean, I I don't see why they can't do. that, right? Yes. So, this one is more of legally is. one thing, morally, ethically is another. thing, right? Right, right, right. So, they're saying how much of Empire.

Labs was initially brought into Apotex. And I will say though that Barry was. quite generous with his four cousins. If. they wanted to buy a house or a car or. start a business, he would give them the. money. In total, he spent over 15. million dollars on the cousins and never. asked for a single penny back. Woah. He even tried to give one of them a job, Dana. He hired Dana to work for Apotex, but within a month, Dana, the cousin, was caught selling drugs to other. employees at Apotex. Which, okay, just. think about it for a second, for a. pharmaceutical company and Dana being. related to the founder and chairman, the.

implications if Barry did not fire him. probably worse than it sounds. That I. mean, the world would have ripped Barry. Sherman apart. Yeah. Yeah. Like covering. your family drug dealing. And dealing drugs when you're you own a. pharmaceutical business, it would have. been really, really bad. So, Barry fires. him from Apotex, but still hires him in. a different business. Barry owned a few. resorts and he's like, "Go work at a. resort." Dana ends up sleeping with a. bunch of the female customers that come. to the resort and he was promptly let go.

from there as well. Barry also funded. his rehab programs, which costed about. 20,000 dollars each time that he went. And after all of this, Barry still. funded a lot of their business ideas, even against the wishes of his own wife. Honey is like, "You got to let them go.". There was this weird tension between all. of them. Like the cousins would keep. asking Barry for money, but they also. hated him. And it's fascinating because. growing up the family had the opposite. dynamic. The Winter brothers grew up. super privileged. They had a yacht and a. Rolls-Royce. Barry was being raised by a.

single mom because his dad passed. But. once the cousins were grown up, Barry. was a billionaire and the Winter. cousins, with the exception of Tim, the. oldest, they're constantly having to beg. and pander to Barry. Yeah. I and also wonder what level is that? Like there's no probably the the what is. it? The parenting is not there. A. 7-year-old, 5-year-old like Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sure it's hard for them to. not think because without Uncle Lou, our. dad, Barry wouldn't be here where he is.

today, right? Yeah. And then the Winter. cousins found their father's original. will and it clearly stated that each. child, once they reach the age of 20, were entitled to 5% of Empire Labs. The. combined shares of the four brothers. would be 20% and since they believed. Apotex was in place of Empire Labs, in. their minds, they felt that they owned. 20% of Apotex, which would have the. estimated value of $10 billion.

When Kerry confronted Barry with this, Barry just dismissed him stating, "Empire Labs no longer exists and the. current one, Apotex, was built entirely. on my own, separately.". Kerry sued Barry. The legal battle. ensued for 10 years. Ultimately, the judge said that Kerry's. request for $1 billion in shares was, quote, "wishful thinking and beyond. fanciful.". [snorts]. Yeah. To make matters worse, not only did. Kerry and the brothers not get a single. penny, the judge ordered the Winter. brothers to repay Barry the $15 million.

that he had assisted them with over the. years. Wow. And they have to pay $30,000 in legal. fees. So this legal battle, it turned. Kerry Winter basically into a super. villain arch enemy of Barry Sherman. He. said when he heard about the murders of. Barry and Honey Sherman, he started. dancing around his house and screamed, "Today is a good day." I mean, what is. that going to do for him? Like. Yeah. I mean, wow. Later, when accused. of murdering his cousin, Kerry said, "No, the way I was going to do it. wouldn't have been with belts. It was. going to be in the Apotex parking lot.

That was my vision. Barry would come out. of the building of Apotex and I'd be. hiding behind a car and I would just. decapitate him. I wanted to roll his. head down the parking lot and then I. would just sit there waiting for the. police." He despised Barry and he said, "Barry cared about money, making lots of. it and not caring about who he. destroyed, who he stepped on or who he. over, like me and my brothers.". But to a lot of people, Barry's friends, they said that's not the Barry we know. Barry's actually quite a benevolent. billionaire. That's what they said. And.

I think, yeah, it can be argued that. billionaires can't truly be benevolent, but I guess they're using it in. comparison to other billionaires in the. circle, right? Maybe they're a little. bit more charitable. Barry Sherman was known for dropping. millions of dollars on random charities, schools, hospitals and even individual. people. He would buy random employees. houses. The couple had multiple. buildings named in their honor for their. generous donations. And they were known. for their philanthropic ways. And again, a lot of people would argue that they. only donated because they had to, socially and financially to get those.

tax incentives. So we don't really know. what the real motive of them wanting to. donate is, but people do remember them. as philanthropists. They were one of the. biggest donors to charitable causes in. Canadian history, giving away an. estimated figure in the hundreds of. millions of dollars. It's unclear how. much they donated because a lot of the. times they only donated under the. condition that it be fully anonymous. The funeral of the billionaire couple. would have around 7,500. people in attendance. And this is not an. open funeral. So sometimes with.

community members or victims of crimes, there will be open funerals for the. community to come together and show. support, right? The Sherman funeral was. closed, meaning only the people invited. were allowed in and there was 7,500. people invited. Because the sheer amount. of people, I mean, it was held in a. massive space that looked like an. airport hangar. There was six. Jumbotrons, like the giant screens, projectors, so that the audience could. see what's going on on stage. Wow. Yeah, to hear the family members give. speeches. Security was top notch. I.

mean, it had to be. The Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, the mayor of Toronto, they were all in attendance. It was. comparable to a state funeral. The. private security was hired by the family. and they controlled who got in, who left. the funeral and they were all given a. single task by one of the kids, the. Sherman kids. It wasn't keeping the. Prime Minister safe. I'm sure he had his. own security. It was a picture. Before the funeral, Jonathan Sherman, the Shermans' only. son, handed the security team a picture. of a funny-looking man and they were to. memorize every little detail on this.

man's face and ensure that he did not, under any circumstances, get into the. funeral. Every [snorts] single one of. the 7,500 faces of the people in. attendance were thoroughly checked by. security and the man in the picture was. Frank D'Angelo, Barry Sherman's best friend. and one of netizens' suspects for the. Sherman murders. Best friend. Best friend. The consensus online and a. lot of people who knew Barry and Honey. Sherman is that they were both murdered.

And personally, this theory is the only. one that makes sense even in my head. The idea that they both did this to. themselves willingly doesn't make sense. or the idea that Barry did this to his. wife and then himself also doesn't make. sense. The Sherman kids funded a second. private autopsy and there were a lot of. new findings. Everyone agreed that the. medical cause of death was. strangulation, right? But there were. very, very fine marks around the. couple's neck. and it was inconsistent with the width. of the belts. So it's believed that the. real murder weapon was likely not the.

belts, but a more thin, more flexible. rope. But more importantly, based on the. height, weight and the length of the. belt around Barry's neck and the gravity. that would be needed for it to actually. strangle him because he's not using all. of his body weight cuz remember he's. sitting. Mhm. It just didn't make sense. Mhm, I see. The belt is too thick for. only. that amount of weight to to pull. Okay. Wow. Yes. They said logically, scientifically, it is impossible for him.

to strangle himself to death in that. seated position with that belt. And. remember the initial autopsy findings. reported that there were weird markings. around both their wrists. If Barry had done this and he had tied. both of their wrists for whatever. reason, wouldn't those be readily. available left somewhere on the. premises? It looked like it had been done with zip. ties, but there were no zip ties or any. sort of bindings that were found in the. pool room or really anywhere in the. house. And all four wrists had markings. That didn't make sense. The second. autopsy team ruled out all other. possibilities and stated that the only.

option physically and forensically. possible was double homicide. This is what most people believe. happened that night of the murders. Wednesday, December 13th, after a. meeting with architects in the Apotex. office, Honey came home first. And a. likely scenario is that she was killed. first. We don't know if the killers were. let in by her or they found an open. entrance because the window and there. was also a side door that was unlocked, right? But Honey likely ran into the. powder room on the main floor to get. away from the killer or the killers.

Tried to call 911 because remember her. phone was found on the floor of the. guest bathroom that the housekeeper said. she never used that bathroom. See, that's what I'm saying. That's such a. odd spot. And then also, if you're using. that bathroom and you drop your phone, who just is like, "Okay, I'm going to. walk away now?". Yeah. It's very strange, right? So maybe. she tried to get away, tried to call. 911, but they got to her. She was likely. tied up and then strangled to death and. the injuries to her face probably came.

from the killers dragging her down the. stairs to the basement pool. It had to. have happened immediately after death, her injuries to her face. They said. there's no bruising. Oh. Well, you had. to be you have to be alive for bruises. to form. Right. Okay. Yes. And it's widely believed that she. was killed somewhere else in the house. and then dropped downstairs. And. according to the housekeeper, Honey. never went into the basement, remember? Because she had bad legs. Mhm. Now, after killing Honey, they waited for. Barry, who came in through the garage. door in the basement. He was likely.

ambushed holding a stack of papers, his. driving gloves and his BlackBerry. They probably tied him up and killed him. and then dragged him into the pool room. The part that intrigues a lot of people. though is why were their hands tied. though? Was it just part of the process. of killing them and making sure that. they're subdued and they don't escape or. is it because they're trying to extract. something from them before they're. killed? Some sort of information? But what would that be? From our online research and not having.

known her personally, Honey seems like a. very complicated individual. I'm going. to say both of them do and I think a lot. of it has to do with their billionaire. status. So Honey's birth name was Anna, but she changed it to Honey in high. school because she said she wanted to. live a life as sweet as honey. And she. was always a very bold person. Like she. was late to practically everything. It. didn't matter if she's like 2 hours. late. She would do this morning ritual. in the same speed every day. Like her. body just did not move faster. She would. make herself a cup of tea, dunk. chocolate turtles. They're like the ones. with the nuts and the caramel. She would.

dunk it into the tea to soften it up and. eat exactly two of those and then drink. her tea and then go get ready. Yeah. She loved going out. She loved. socializing. Never really took herself. or anyone too seriously. Her best friend. remembered when they were young, they. were on a date with two guys, two. American guys. And like this is so. embarrassing, but these Americans were. asking some naive questions. Okay, they're like, "You're from Canada? Do. you guys live in like ice houses up. there?". Honey rolled her eyes. She's annoyed and. she starts speaking in French to her. friend. French is Canada's second.

official language, so the Americans just. assumed, "Oh, Canadians don't know. English. They're like part of the. French-speaking community, right?" But. the truth is, Honey barely knew French. She's just making up words to get these. guys to fork off, basically, when she. found out that they're idiots. And a lot. of people said Honey was just a blast to. be around. She was introduced to Barry. Sherman through a friend of hers, and. the two, they hit it off. They got. married, and I imagine that they had. this dream of having a big family, but. things didn't really go according to. plan. They tried multiple times to get.

pregnant. Honey suffered multiple. multiple miscarriages. They finally gave. birth to Lauren, their first child. She. would actually be the only biological. child of both Honey and Barry. The couple tried to have more children, but it wasn't working, and so they used. surrogacy for the remaining three. But. at the time, surrogacy was not that. popular in Canada, and it was basically. in its first stages. So, what they did. was they would get surrogates from the. US, and they would just implant Barry's. sperm into the surrogates. So, it's the. surrogate's egg, and they had three.

different surrogates. So, all four kids. have the same dad. Yeah. And all four. kids have different Well, I don't want. to say moms, but you get it, like eggs, DNA. Maternal DNA. Does that make sense? Yeah, you get what I'm saying. And I'm. only emphasizing this part, not because. I think that this makes them less of. Honey's children or less Sherman, but. there are speculations by netizens that. this affected the family dynamic. So, Lauren, the first child, has both. Honey and Barry's DNA, and the next. three Sherman kids, they only have. Barry's DNA. And some people think that.

Honey maybe. didn't have a strong of a maternal side. A lot of netizens suspect that she just. didn't seem as close to her children, which I don't know where we're getting. this speculation cuz the family is. awfully private. But for example, Honey's parents were Holocaust. survivors. But according to Honey's. sister, Honey called her own children. Nazis. Which I don't think that Honey would do. lightly if her parents had survived the. Holocaust. Wait, all four? It seems like. all four. Yeah. And this is going to be.

a point of contention later, but it's. been reported that Honey told her. friends that her children, quote, controlled her, and that in the family. pecking order, Honey was at the bottom. Yeah, and this next part, at first I. thought it was cool cuz I was like, "Oh, that's kind of unexpected. That's a cool. billionaire, so frugal." But the deeper. we went researching into this, I was. like, "Oh, ooh, that's interesting." So, let me explain. You know those like thin. plastic bags that you get at a grocery. store? Honey would save all of them, like the rest of us, right? She's a. billionaire. She would wad them up into. balls, throw them into her purse, and.

then she would go to the golf course. with her girlfriends. She would whip. them out and start collecting abandoned. balls on the golf course that all these. millionaires feel like are not worthy of. collecting. And she would say, "Why buy. new balls when I can reuse old golf. balls?" Which I'm like, "That's actually. great. That's a great sustainable way, right?" But then things start spiraling, and it feels like there's definitely. something deeper psychologically that's. going on. It's just my opinion. And. again, it's nothing bad, just food for. thought, right? And the next part is. fine, but it escalates. For example, all. the toiletries in Honey's bathroom were.

complimentary mini shampoos and. conditioners from hotels that they would. visit while traveling. She would never. even just use them straight up. She. would dilute them with water. Most of. the clothing that Honey and Barry wore. were from the supermarket, like Costco. clothes or from the thrift store. The. leather belts around their neck when. they passed were two for $10 from the. thrift store. Which again, all of this. is good. All of this is great, even. But. allegedly, Honey's frugal attitude also. extended to how she treated people that. she hired. It's reported that she would pay people.

a penny and expect to get the value of a. dollar, which is a not-so-great trait. And because of that, she earned the. nickname One-Cent Honey. Being frugal to herself is one thing, being frugal to employees when you're a. billionaire, that's a whole other thing. Honey would also hyperfixate on how much. toilet paper they were going through. Allegedly, she would measure it. physically to mark the toilet paper to. make sure no one in the house was. overusing it. That's wow. Now, this is. where it gets confusing, because some. people said that when she went shopping,

though, she would spend money. She would. buy like 10 designer shoes all at one. store, like Jimmy Choo, 10 of them at. once, and then keep them in her closet, never wear them. So, it's not like she. never bought designer things, she just. never used them. Kevin Donovan, the journalist, described. her as a billionaire with drawers full. of brand-new, never-used designer. wallets. But instead, she only used an oversized. wallet, battered, brimming with receipts. and notes, and held together by a thick. rubber band. Wow. So, it's interesting, right? Both Barry and Honey grew up.

poor. Mhm. So, it is speculated that. these are kind of the poverty anxiety. Mhm. It does look like she's looking for. some sort of control or security or even. safety. That's a thought, not a fact. But it feels like a control thing, because some of Honey's friends even. reported that when they would go out to. eat, she would order for them. Or for. her daughter Lauren's birthday, she. would get a bunch of presents from. Lauren's friends, right? And she would. hoard them and make sure that Lauren. didn't open them until weeks later. Why?

She didn't want to spoil her too much on. her birthday. Mhm. It seems like she wants some level. of control, but then other sources state. that Honey never filled her tank in her. decade-old Lexus that she drove. So, she. was basically playing gas roulette. Like, nobody ever knew if her car was. going to run out of gas on the side of. the highway, which feels like the. opposite of someone who wants to have. some control in their life. So, I guess. that's why I used the word complicated. to describe Honey. Side note, since. we're on the topic of money, the. Shermans would fly economy for most. domestic flights. They would typically.

fly first class for international. flights, but there were apparently a lot. of times where they would board a plane. for a business meeting, and Apotex. executives would be sitting first class, and they would walk past them, and they. would joke, "Oh, I wish I could fly. first class one day." Yeah. Honey was known to be very generous with. her friends, her sister, and a lot of. charities. I mean, her friends. absolutely adored her. They said, "She. was a millionaire when we met. Then she. became a billionaire, but we you would. never know.

You know? She always took care of us. Whenever she would talk passionately. about her travels around the world, it. was never about shopping or where she. stayed or what she ate. It was about. things she saw, people she met, what she. learned. Like, she went to meet the. Pope, even though she's very Jewish. But you know, it's the Pope, right? I. would meet the Pope. It's said that. Honey always made people laugh, you. know? They said that they would be at. dinner parties with the Shermans, and. they would have this like mischievous. look on their faces, and Barry would. say, "All right, let's go get laid." And. both of them would just get up and.

leave. Another time, apparently, Barry's. friends would send him emails of naked. women, like pictures of naked women. online, and would write dirty jokes, because, you know, boys will be boys, I. guess, is the Yeah, I don't know, right? I'm not going to judge a billionaire cuz. I don't want to get sued. Honey would find out, and allegedly, she. was like, "I need to be CC'd on those. emails, because why should the boys be. the only ones having fun?" That was the. personality of Honey. Yeah. And remember how Honey's sister, Mary, told everyone soon after their deaths.

that Honey was going to gift her $300. million. Well, allegedly, Honey and. Barry had been arguing, and Honey felt. bothered that over the years Barry had. gifted hundreds of millions of dollars. to their children and friends, which she. felt like she had no money to call her. own. She always had to ask Barry for. money. So, by the end of 2017, reportedly, she told friends that Barry. was going to give her between 100 to. $500 million. that would just strictly be hers, like. spending money, where she wouldn't have. to ask Barry or get his permission, she.

could spend it how she wanted. And. allegedly, Mary is claiming that she was. going to give her $300 million of that. But probably the most complicated thing. about Honey is the allegation that she. did not accept her son, Jonathan, because he's gay. It's unclear if this. is true, but all of Jonathan's former. partners state that Honey was never. welcoming to them, which is kind of. surprising, because one of Barry's best. friends since childhood is gay. In fact, Barry's best friend, Joel, was married. with kids when he decided, "I'm going to. come out." And the first person that he.

felt comfortable enough calling was. Barry. It's just very conflicting, because. Barry and Honey are billionaires. And. like a lot of people say online, you. cannot get to that level of wealth. without exploiting someone somewhere, and you can't do it without stepping on. a few toes. And Barry Sherman had some. big feet, figuratively speaking. He was. called by some as the most litigious man. in all of Canada. By the time of his. death, Barry had filed an estimated. 1,200 cases, lawsuits against the.

government in federal court. Barry. probably cost Canadian taxpayers. millions of dollars in legal fees. One. of Barry's lawsuits took literally 30. years. Even Barry himself joked that. Apotex was a legal company that sold. medications on the side. And it's said. that Barry loved reading and drafting. legal briefs. He thrived in this kind of. atmosphere. And sometimes Barry would. even sue people for like $50,000, which. is a lot of money, don't get me wrong. But in one instance, Barry was in a.

legal battle with a guy named Harvey, who probably was a scam artist, but. still, he was in a legal battle for four. years. Barry is worth billions of. dollars. Let's just say, for. simplicity's sake, Barry has $1 billion. in his bank account. I know, I know, like, you can't have cash sitting like. that, whatever. Let's say he has a. billion dollars in his account. $50,000. is 0.005%. of $1 billion. Meaning, if you have. $1,000 in your bank account, that same. percentage is 5 cents, a nickel. You're. suing someone for a nickel. He was in.

court for four years over a nickel. A. close friend of Barry's said, "You hit. Barry Sherman with a fly swatter, he's. coming after you with a. sledgehammer." Some would argue, "That's. fine, you know, it's not the amount of. the money, it's rather the principle, right?" Others say this is why. billionaires are bad. So, Barry's in a. legal battle for over $50,000, but at. the same time, he would also ponder to. his rich friends, "Don't you think it's. unfair? We have so much, we have so many. beautiful things and other people do. not. Why should we be served and others.

do the serving? Who decided that some. people get to serve and some people get. served? You know the house that they. were found in? Barry actually sued the. builders of the house back in the '80s. when they built the house cuz they lived. in there for a while. When they built. the house, the construction took about. like $2.5 million. He sued them and won $2 million back. So, yeah, he's a very litigious man. He. loves a good lawsuit, but you know what. lawsuits do? They create a bunch of. enemies that probably hate your guts cuz.

lawsuits can ruin lives. But back to the lawsuits, most of them. were not for small amounts or $50,000, but easily several hundreds of millions. of dollars were at stake. Barry. naturally had a lot of enemies because. people think that Barry Sherman. monopolized the entire Canadian generic. drug industry and he was considered a. king of the pharmaceutical industry, which is kind of a dangerous title to be. given. It It just paints a big red. target on your back and people that. probably hated Barry the most were other.

pharmaceutical giants. And I didn't know. this, but there is like two sectors of. the pharmaceutical industry. So, you've. got big pharma, like true big pharma. You're talking brand names, like. Tylenol, that's a brand name. Advil, that's a brand name, right? And then. you've got generic drug companies. They. hate each other. Let me explain. So, brand name big pharma companies like. Pfizer, all these different companies, Johnson & Johnson, they will spend. billions of dollars developing a new. drug. They have to go through clinical.

trials. It's rough. It's expensive. They. finally get it approved by the. government. They get it patented. They. start selling for a high price because. they've already spent billions of. dollars on developing this drug, so they. need to make their money back. And since. it's big pharma we're talking about, they need to make a big fat profit. But. then generic drug companies will come. in, look at the patented formulas of. those new drugs, make it similar if not. nearly identical. Sometimes they have. the exact formula and then just add a. bunch of filler ingredients that don't. harm the person taking it, but just so. they can be like, "Oh, no, no, no, our.

ingredients have different things.". But it's like the filler ingredients. literally do nothing. It's just there to. not infringe on the IP. And since they. did not invest billions into developing. the drug and the trials, they can sell. it for a lot cheaper without affecting. their bottom line, making just as much. profit as the brand names. It seems like. generic drug companies like Apotex get. sued left and right by brand name big. pharma companies who want to drag them. to court to see if their recipe or. patent has been violated. And a lot is.

at stake. If the law determines a patent. was violated, the generic company will. have to pay the big brand name pharma. company a lot of money. If the law. determines no patent was violated, then. the brand name's patent nulled. It's. void. Patent gone. Then everyone can just ravage this. ingredient list. Wow. At this point, generic companies. probably consider massive multi-million. dollar lawsuits just the cost of doing. business. Generic drugs are legal and honestly. necessary. I love generic drugs cuz it's.

cheaper for me. Generic drugs are one of. the main factors for curbing the spread. of AIDS during the epidemic because. cheaper equals more accessible. But it's. not that simple, okay? The generic drug. industry, they're not Robin Hoods. They're also known for doing very. questionable things. As a whole, the. industry has a history of breaking. rules, falsifying data from their. manufacturing plants, pushing the laws. of patent laws, and fighting amongst. each other to be the generic brand that. is the first to manufacture a generic of. the brand name. And a lot of people have.

a strong hatred for Apotex. They think. Apotex pretends to be for the consumer. And yes, likely their stuff is cheaper. than the brand names, but one law. professor said, "Canadians pay more for. generic drugs than almost every other. country." Barry sought to manipulate our. system to enrich himself and impoverish. Canadian patients who used his drugs, implying that Barry stands behind his. message of wanting to help the less. fortunate get access to drugs. But if. that were true, he would lower the. prices even more because he easily. could.

Barry considered himself a Robin Hood. His competitors, big pharma, considered. him a pirate thief piranha. Another. pharmaceutical professional who had gone. through a legal battle with Barry said, "He's the only person I've ever met with. no redeeming features whatsoever." Jeez. Others stated he was so aggressive and. down to fight and they quoted, "He never. took his foot off the gas.". Another source says that some rival. company executive used unprintable. language to describe him. Meaning like.

you cannot print that in the newspapers. because it's probably just curse words. And even Apotex executives have. confirmed that if Barry Sherman or. Apotex was in the news, the news. coverage was never positive. So, whether. that's for good reason, I guess is up. for you to decide. And side note, just. to give you the other side, most friends. of the couple said Barry and Honey were. amazing people. One friend stated, "While on one hand, they were rich. beyond anybody's wildest dreams, they. were always rooted in community.". He said one time he asked Barry to help.

him get painkillers, like Advil and. Tylenol level of painkillers. And he. asked for help because in Cuba there was. an embargo at the time and Cubans didn't. have access to simple medications like. that. And in response, he said Barry. shipped him hundreds of pounds of. medicine, which he and his friends, his. relatives packed into suitcases and. delivered to Havana. He said the Shermans never said no when. people needed help. Not only did they. always say yes, they said yes with. enthusiasm. But it's still clear that. the couple had a lot of enemies. And one. of the most intense legal battles that.

they were currently involved in was with. the CEO of Apotex and a rival company. called Teva USA. So, Teva was suing. Apotex because Jeremy Desai, the married. CEO of Apotex, cuz remember Barry. Sherman is just chairman. Mhm. So, Jeremy Desai is CEO. And he's married, okay? He was allegedly having an affair with. the senior director of regulatory. affairs at Teva, a rival generic drug. company. Teva is saying the CEO of.

Apotex literally wanted to sleep with. one of our employees to try and get our. trade secrets during pillow talk. Jeremy denied everything and said that. he did have a personal relationship with. that Teva director, but they were not. serious and they never shared any trade. secrets. But Teva does not believe him. So, they're pursuing Apotex and Jeremy. for allegedly stealing company secrets. and because Jeremy is the CEO of Apotex. or was, one could easily draw. connections and believe that Jeremy was. trying to steal Teva secrets and Barry.

knew what he was doing. Not saying that. it's true, but one might think that it. was a plot between Barry and some of the. other higher-ups at Apotex. Especially because Barry stuck by. Jeremy's side the whole time. He even. bought him a $3.2 million house. unrelated to the lawsuit, but still, you know. Some netizens theorized that. Barry had pissed off enough competitors. that they would want him dead. Barry. even said so himself that everyone in. the industry hated him. He said, "The. branded drug companies, so the big brand.

brand names, they hate us. They have. private investigators on us all the. time. The thought once came to my mind, why don't they just hire someone to. knock me off? For a thousand bucks paid. to the right person, you could probably. get someone killed. Perhaps I'm. surprised that hasn't happened." Wow. The types of enemies that Barry has, I. mean, they're no joke. He likely had big. pharma companies, PIs. Barry himself. hired private investigators to go. through his competitors' trash. Okay. So, these are some crazy people.

we're talking about. In my opinion, no. offense, sorry. So, is that what happened? The police's criminal psychology experts. don't think so. They speculate if it was. merely for financial gain or to get rid. of a powerful competitor, they would. choose a clean swift execution style hit. rather than lingering around the crime. scene. Intentionally positioning the. corpses in an odd manner, that suggests. that whoever killed the Sherman couple. was not just in it for money and. business. It felt more personal, something deeper. It said the perpetrator didn't just want.

to witness their painful deaths, but. wanted to humiliate their corpses. And since we're exploring that theory. that it has more to do with the. Shermans' status or line of work rather. than interpersonal relationships, some. even suspected that what if it was just. like an organized home invasion gone. wrong? So, this area of Toronto, all. these rich people had experienced a ton. of home robberies, like talking about. tens of millions of dollars worth of. stuff missing, gone, stolen. And now the. burglars had staged the scene to make it. appear like the couple chose to take.

their own lives. To back up that theory, the Sherman home. was broken into last year and the. burglars came in through a skylight. Wow. Yeah, so it's like organized crime type. type vibe. it from the air. Yeah, like bank heist. type vibe. Wow. But this theory doesn't make sense. because the house wasn't ransacked. Home. invasions gone wrong typically leave a. lot of violent evidence behind. And if. the home invaders were staging the scene. to make it look like a double exit, wouldn't have been smarter to suspend. them from the ceiling? Like this scene. is so bizarre that it kind of is.

incredible that the police didn't think. that it was staged from the get-go. It's more likely that they were killed. by someone that they knew intimately. because the killer or killers, they knew. the Sherman schedule. So, the Shermans. were killed Wednesday night. They had no. important meetings on Thursday, which is. why they were found Friday morning. So, people were trying to get in contact. with them on Thursday, but because there. was no pressing urgent matter, they were. like, "Oh, I'm sure they're just busy.". The killers found a way into the home. without breaking in, so that they knew. the layout of the house. They also knew. that the house didn't have any interior.

security cameras. They did have a camera set up in the. indoor lap pool, but it was never. connected or officially set up. But if. you looked at it, you wouldn't be able. to tell. Mhm. So, you wouldn't use that. as the location. No. Unless you know that's not working. Yes. So, that means you had to know this. couple. It's not like you're just. watching from the outside tailing them, like organized crime. No, you know them. Yeah. The staging of the scene felt very. personal and maybe it even had to do.

with the statues because it seems like. they were posed like the Sherman. artwork. When the Toronto police finally. announced the Sherman deaths to be a. murder case, one person willingly. stepped forward to talk about how much. he hated the murder victims. So, now. we're about to touch very briefly on the. three netizen suspects. So, these are. not police official suspects. In fact, police have ruled a lot out. These are. what the internet thinks who is the. guiltiest. And I'm not an attorney, so I'm not sure. why he did this. Kerry Winters is netizen suspect number.

one. Barry's cousin stated he hated. Barry. He said that the couple were. profit-driven, ungrateful, and deserved. their fate. He also goes on to allege. that a few months before Barry's death, Barry came to him and said, "Hey, I have. a favor. Can you whack my wife?". Kerry said, "Come on, Barry. You want me. to kill your wife?". He claimed that Barry said, "There is no. way she's getting half of my money. No, I didn't say you. You must know some. people. Could you arrange that for me?". It was a time in his office that he. turned to me. And he said, "Kerry, I.

want you to do me a favor.". And I said, "What's that, Barry?". He said, "I want you to whack my wife.". And I said, "Come on, Barry. You want me. to kill your wife?" He goes, "I didn't. say you. You know some people. Could you arrange. that for me?". Which is a very bold claim to make. The. police had no way of verifying if this. conversation even actually happened. So, they asked Kerry to take a lie detector. test. That lasted 3 hours and he failed, probably spectacularly. And he said, "You know, I probably had reasons to. lash out and do the dirty deed, but.

absolutely not. I had nothing to do with. the murders. I don't know who did it.". Are you lying when you say that Barry. Sherman told you that he wanted his wife. killed? No. But you failed. Yeah, you failed. Yeah, you failed. Here. are my feelings about Barry. I'm not. going to call him a serial killer or a. sociopath or a pathological liar. That's. for shrinks. I'm not a psychologist. I'm. just a recovering addict trying to get. through a day, but I can say this. Barry's idea of friendship, love, honor, loyalty, things that bind people was a. foreign concept. This was a man I don't.

think had any friends. Kerry also. claimed that after filing the lawsuit. against Barry, Barry told him, "You're. thinking of coming after me? You should. think twice because you won't beat me. You don't know who I am yet." Netizens. who believe Kerry is guilty think that. it's clear he has motive, a very envious. personality, and a deep hatred for the. couple. He probably knew their schedules and. there's no forced entry because he's. still their cousin at the end of the. day. If he showed up to talk to them, I. feel like Honey would let him in. But, Kerry does have an alibi. It's said. that he was in a rehab the night of the. incident, so he couldn't have done it.

himself. Then, considering the fact that. after losing the legal battle to Barry, Kerry was in debt, so he was likely. incapable of hiring a hit man. And it. was implied by the police that Kerry's. IQ and EQ were not sufficient enough to. orchestrate a complex unsolved double. homicide. Yeah. So, I do think the whole situation. with the Winter brothers is sad. And. while I think most people do feel a tiny. bit of sympathy for them since their. parents passed, they were still born into a life of. privilege. When they were of age, they.

were given trust funds. They had a huge. leg up in this world and they kind of. blew it. And yes, some people do. speculate Barry probably started Apotex. knowing that he wanted to have full. initial ownership of his company instead. of giving the Winter brothers a big. chunk. But in regard to the Winter brothers, he did everything legally. Barry did. I. mean, I guess the ethical part is the. part to be argued. Many netizens admit. it seemed like Barry tried. He tried to. give them all funds and businesses. None. of them worked very hard considering.

they had the upper hand. Tim, the chef, is doing fine, but two of the brothers, Dana and Kerry, they fell into drugs. Dana was actually charged with murder. Barry paid for his attorney. What? But soon after Dana died of an overdose. It was like a drug deal gone wrong. Oh. my gosh. So, it seemed like they never really. seemed to understand the value of money. even when they received funds. And yeah, Kerry admitted he blew all of his money. on luxury travel and drugs. So, to sum. it up, many netizens believe that while.

Kerry had the strongest motive out of. all the quote internet suspects, he. likely didn't have the means to commit a. double homicide. Then we have netizen suspect number two, Jonathan Sherman, who owed his dad. around $60 million. Now, I'm not the one saying this, but it. is argued that the Sherman children did. not adopt their father's genius IQ and. business acumen. And maybe Barry knew. that. Every time Jonathan, his only son, had a business idea, Barry would lend. him money with a note that was like,

"This is a loan and I'm charging. interest." He gave him $60 million? Uh some figures say closer to $100. million. For what? Random businesses. Wow. And before he died, Barry wanted. his money back. Barry emailed Jonathan. asking for the principal investment. money back. He doesn't have to worry. about interest, but you're still talking. about $60 million. Jonathan claimed that. he was mad when he got that email, like. really mad. But it it's stated that he. wasn't even mad because his dad wanted. the money back. To him, that was fine.

It had always been a loan. But it was. the fact that his dad came to him first. So, there had been so many people that. his dad had lent out money to that he. wasn't getting a return on his. investment on. Why would he come to his. son first? In an email he wrote to his. dad, "Can you explain it to me? I'm. bright and educated. If you explain it. to me, I'm going to try and understand.". And his dad said, "Explain what exactly. How do you determine what's worthwhile. to invest more money with? So, your best. friend Frank, despite year after year of. losses, what are you seeing in his.

businesses that everyone else is. missing?". Jonathan is annoyed that his dad is. still funding his best friend Frank, but. wanting to stop funding him, his own. son. And he's [clears throat] saying. like, "I actually care about my. businesses. If you ask anyone I work. with, like I'm there every single day. You ask the employees that I work with, like they like me. I'm trying to foster. a culture." He's like saying all these. things. And you want me to pay the investment. back, but your best buddy Frank over. there, everybody hates him. He's losing all your money. And you don't want your money back from.

him? We're family. That's kind of the vibe I got from some. of these emails, little snippets. It. also seemed that father and son didn't. see eye to eye on a lot of things. Jonathan seemed to have much more. expensive taste than Barry, and so many. netizens think that he's the biggest. suspect because he'd actually be the. only one of the suspects to actually. gain something from his parents dying, billions of dollars. Mhm. And he did say. something kind of strange at his. parents' funeral. He said, "Neither of. you had to suffer like we are suffering. now." Which people felt like was kind of.

an odd thing to say. Cuz if they were. hanging or were murdered, you would. imagine that's quite a bit of suffering, right? Even Jonathan himself willingly. told a journalist that all three of his. sisters initially suspected him of being. the killer. But he believes it's just. jealousy that accumulated over the. years. He was kind of the favorite child. in terms of business. Reportedly, his. dad Barry was pretty saddened by the. fact that Jonathan did not want to take. over Apotex one day. But it's interesting because the Sherman. kids, right? They hired Canada's top.

attorney Brian Greenspan and a whole. legal team. They funded a pricey. multi-million dollar private. investigation team filled with retired. detectives and even had a leg of private. forensic investigators to study their. parents' bodies. I mean, they're funding. an investigation into their parents'. deaths alongside the Toronto police. But. the interesting part is Jonathan said he. was the one that suggested this whole. idea to get the attorneys involved. Which it's only through the attorneys'. involvement in the case that it was. classified a double homicide. Mhm. Additionally, the private team funded by. the Sherman kids have been really.

proactive in just combing through, looking for evidence, trying to offer to. scan the pool with like this small fine. particle vacuum to pick up any hairs if. there's any evidence. But the police. didn't do it. So, they're doing a lot. Why would Jonathan want to hire these. people in the first place if he's. guilty? He would just let the police. conclude it as a murder suicide and walk. away a billionaire. Additionally, the. original reward for anyone who had. information on his parents' deaths was. $10 million. He personally funded $25 million.

to up it to $35 million. And that's just. from Jonathan alone, the other $25. million. Which yeah, I mean, technically is a. drop in the bucket for his new found. billionaire status, but others say, "Maybe this guy is just weird and he. didn't have the perfect relationship. with his parents, but would he really. kill both of his parents?" Another. argument is, you know, for us, like. normal people, your parents asking you. for $60 million back could seem like the. biggest stress in the world, right? Could seem like a big deal. You're. indebted $60 million. But to these.

people, it might just be like play. money. You know, like, "Uh I'll give it to him. when I give it to him." Mhm. It doesn't. seem like his dad would have done. something if he didn't get it back. Yeah, yeah. So, you're saying that. doesn't give him the biggest motive. Yes, but a lot of netizens are like, "We. might think it does because we don't. have billionaire dads.". But, you know, just might not work like. that, right? Jonathan argued if the. motive was inheritance, the sisters. should also be considered suspects. And. food for thought, if he were falsely. implicated, each of them would gain an.

extra billion dollars in wealth. And netizen suspect number three, Frank. D'Angelo. Frank is a character straight. out of a movie because he did actually. star in a few gangster-themed movies. that Barry Sherman funded. His parents. are Italian and at one point he owned a. beer company. He hosted a late-night. talk show, tried to get into politics, and starred in movies that Barry funded. He's 20 years younger than Barry and. basically the complete opposite of. Barry, but somehow the friendship. worked. To give you some context, Frank. D'Angelo says things like, "I suck at.

golf, but I do look spectacular on the. golf course.". The first meeting was in Barry's office. where Frank proudly placed a container. of apple juice on Barry's desk and told. him to try it. He was an apple juice. sales rep. And I don't know if the juice. was that good or if Barry was just. looking for a new friendship, they got. along instantly. Frank would actually. become one of the closest members to. Barry's inner circle, which is very. lucrative because Frank would have. access to the bank of Barry. When. Frank's juice company went bankrupt, he. showed Barry a poorly written. business proposal to start a beer.

brewing factory, which he doesn't have. any experience. He just really likes. beer. Yeah, Barry the billionaire helped his. friend fund this new company. He paid. for Frank to tour Europe to learn new. techniques and buy equipment. When Frank. wanted to sponsor an ice hockey game. with his beer company, Barry funded it. So, he had all of his ads on like some. of the biggest ice hockey games in. Canada. They barely saw any returns. Customers were complaining that despite. the high dollar advertisement, which is. rumored to have been around $15 million. spent on ice hockey endorsements alone,

the craft beer just tasted like regular. beer that you could get at the store for. a few bucks. Then in 2007, Frank decided to go into. the industry. He hosted a late-night. talk show, released an album, wrote, directed, and starred in several street. gang-themed movies. And obviously, the. financial backer to all of his projects. was his best friend Barry Sherman. There. are no exact figures, but there are. estimates that have been thrown around. that Barry had spent like a quarter. billion dollars on Frank D'Angelo. Jeez. $250 million during the course of their.

friendship. And it seemed like at least one of the. Sherman kids, Jonathan, was getting sick. of it. It's interesting because Barry. seems to have been very generous with. all of his friends, but the most. generous with Frank. And a lot of people. suspect it's because Barry's friends. were all academics like himself. They. all kind of had their own things going. on, and they all grew up or ran in the. same circles. Frank was not that at all. He had everything Barry didn't have. He. was indulgent, reckless, wild. When he. was young, Frank had joined a band like. out of nowhere, and he started touring.

across North America with no money, spending all this money to go to all. these different cities where nobody knew. him, making no money, no return. He had. to live on hot water where he would pour. ketchup inside, stir it into a soup, and. then put some crackers in. That was his. meal like for a long time. Which is not. necessarily a bad story, but I think it. gives you an idea of his impulsivity. Barry literally could never do that. because of the line of the work that. he's in. And he has a whole family. So, maybe he's funding Frank's dreams to. kind of vicariously live through him. But did Frank kill Barry in anger.

because he knew that Barry was going to. wean him off or cut him off soon? Some. netizens say yes. The anger, passion, hatred, those are things that you can't. really understand. They make people do. crazy things. And there is another case. linked to Frank that netizens have been. bringing up. The ones that think that. he's guilty. Frank was accused at one. point of sexual assault. I will say that. he was acquitted, but a victim alleged. that she had gone to his office to. interview for a position as like an. event coordinator. He allegedly asked. her to come to the hotel next door to. finish up the paperwork, but instead he.

assaulted her. Frank would argue that. the two did have intimate relations, but. it was consensual. He was 49 at the. time, she was 19. Frank was acquitted, but the judge said Frank was {quote}. probably guilty, but they didn't have. enough evidence to charge him. After he was released, press was waiting. for him, and he responded, "I would. appreciate you guys have a little. decorum. I'm a little emotional.". Many netizens use this as proof that. this man is emotional, power-hungry, sketchy, doesn't like to take no for an. answer. Some netizens argue the opposite. They.

say, "No matter how angry and hot-headed. Frank seems to be, Frank seems to be a. lot more driven by money than anything. else. So, why would he kill the goose. that laid the golden eggs for him? It. seems unlikely that he thought that he. was in Barry's will or thought that he. would get something out of his death, right? So, why would he do that?". Frank argues that he would never kill. his friends. He said just 3 days before. Barry's murder, Barry came over, and the. two shared a breakfast together. And it. seemed like Barry was a little bit sad. He even said something along the lines.

of allegedly, "Having you, Frank, as a. friend is enough for my lifetime. I can. die without regrets.". Which is an odd thing to claim that. someone said 3 days before they died. But Frank insists he knew that Barry was. murdered from day one. And he said that. he believes at least two people were. involved in the killing. So, there is. this scary, lingering question of if. billionaires' murders don't get solved, will anybody else's? To give some context, the police clearly. dropped the ball quite a bit on this.

case. And I don't know if it I would say. it's the worst thing that I've seen. police officers and detectives do, but I. definitely would not use the words. competent investigations to describe. their handling of this one, at least. initially. Here are a few of the initial. police fumbles. When they first arrived. at the scene, they separated all three. women that were at the Sherman. residence, the housekeeper, realtor, and. the gardener. But they let the. housekeeper stay in the front of the. house. She was nervous, stressed, in. shock. She had no idea what to do. So, to calm herself down, she continued to. do her job. She continued to mop. It.

seems like she genuinely meant well, and. I don't think that she realized that. this was a crime scene. She was just in. shock. It took so long for an officer to. inform her, "Hey, don't mop the floor. because you're going to contaminate a. crime scene." Clearly too late for that. A few other things to point out. The. police working this case didn't even. visit Apotex till 3 days after the. bodies were found. The lead detective. assigned to this case didn't even show. up to the Sherman residence till 4 days. after their bodies were found. Detective Price, the one that was. talking to the media when news first. broke, he was a newer detective who had.

no idea that his verbage of stating that. they were not looking for any suspects. right now would be taken as the police. believe that this is a murder-exit. The police were also slow to establish a. timeline of events on when the Shermans. were last seen and who they were last. heard from. They didn't even start. asking Apotex for the Shermans'. whereabouts until 3 days later. And. Dawson, the security guard at Apotex, he. really liked Barry. He said Barry and. him, they had a little inside joke where. they both liked tomato juice. And so, Barry always told him to sneak into his. office and take tomato juice cuz he's. got good taste. So, Dawson is like, "I'm.

going to try my best to help this guy. cuz I like him, you know? And it's. morally the right thing to do." He gave. the police the files of footage from the. last day the Shermans were in office, and it's speculated they went home. immediately after this and then were. murdered later that night. So, this. could be very important. He gave them. the footage, and it showed them having a. meeting with the new house architects, Honey leaving Apotex at around 6:30 p.m. going home, Barry leaving at around 8:30. p.m. going home. Their estimated time of.

death was 9:00 to 11:00 p.m. This is technically the last time they. were ever seen alive. He gives them this footage. A month. later, he gets a call. The police are. like, "Hey, do you have the software we. need to look at the security footage?". And he's like, "You haven't looked at. it? It's been a month.". Wow. Yeah, that's crazy. Additionally, there was a real estate lockbox at the. front of the door, and I don't know if. these are still used these days, but. it's like a mini safe. You punch in a. code, and it unlocks to reveal the house. key. Realtors will use this to give. showings when the homeowners or the.

other available realtors are aren't. there. Now, that lockbox wasn't checked. for a while to see if the spare key had. gone missing or stolen. The only reason the police even checked. was because the realtor kept calling. asking, "Did you guys check? Did you. guys check?". Key people in the couple's lives were. not interviewed for months. The former. Apotex CEO, Jeremy Desai, was not. interviewed for 2 months even though he. had exchanged emails with the couple the. night of their murder. The emails. revealed nothing, but still, Jeremy was. embroiled in that legal battle with the. competitor Teva. Mhm. They didn't talk.

to him for months. And it's scary for netizens because if. this is how you treat potential murders. of billionaires, think about how they're. going to treat us. Other people who had access to the home. were not fingerprinted until almost a. year after the couple's death. And then presumably the worst fumbles, the Shermans' next door neighbor told. the police almost immediately, "We have. CCTV footage that show the exterior of. the Sherman residence, and we caught. someone on the Sherman property on. Thursday.". What? Thursday. So, murdered on.

Wednesday, Thursday they saw someone on. CCTV, Friday they were found. The. neighbors were under the impression at. the time that the Shermans were actually. killed on Thursday instead of Wednesday. So, they were like really urgently. telling the police like, "You need to. come get this footage because our. security system like writes itself every. 7 days." They're like, "We looked. through the footage. We saw a suspicious. man walk back and forth from the Sherman. front door. We recorded the time codes, and in total it looked like the man had. spent a total of 29 minutes presumably. inside the house." Just a quick. disclaimer, the footage doesn't show the. actual front door. So, theoretically the.

man could have just been standing at the. front door for 29 minutes, but that. seems unlikely in the Canada winter. You. would think that the police would be all. over this, right? The neighbors are. pestering them, calling them multiple. times to remind them, "We have this. footage." What? It took a long time for the police to. finally like slowly come and be like, "Where is the footage?". And what was it? Nothing? They don't know. Yeah, we don't know who. that man is. We have an idea, which I'll get into. It's believed that the man in the. footage was a police officer.

Okay, it gets crazy. So, let me explain. A year later, some dots are getting. connected. Another neighbor, about 10. houses down from the Sherman residence, said on Thursday night they received a. knock on the door from a police officer. who was like, "Hey, did you call the. police yesterday?" And the neighbors are. like, "No, we didn't.". So, it led people to believe the night. of their deaths, Honey was in the powder. room trying to escape and call. authorities. Maybe the call was dropped, and they couldn't get the exact home. location. They just got like a general. idea from the dropped 911 call.

I don't know how they couldn't look up. the phone records and know that it. belonged to the Shermans, but still. And. presumably, maybe the police were going. door-to-door to be like, "Did you call?". And they went to the Shermans, but they. weren't answering. [sighs]. But then they were like, "Okay, should. be fine.". But we don't know if that was a. plainclothes officer, but that's what. the online internet sleuths believe. because the police were so nonchalant. about that footage. Maybe they didn't. want to admit that was a police officer,

and they missed a 911 call, and they. didn't show up until a full day later, and they still didn't even do like a. wellness check. Jeez, so many questions. So, why did the. police fumble so bad? Well, Frank. D'Angelo thinks that the police are. protecting the Shermans. From who? From. what? I don't know. Right? Are is he alluding that they're. protecting the Sherman kids? I don't. know, right? But a lot of sources. believe the police actually just fumbled. the bag because a serial killer was. active around the same time. Bruce.

McArthur, who is one of Canada's most. notorious serial killers, was killing. gay men in the Toronto area. And. apparently just a week before the. Sherman murders, they had a huge break. in the case. So, that's probably why the authorities. were not on top of this case at all. Some sources even state that most. homicide detectives in that greater. Toronto area were working on the serial. killer case, and the Sherman case was. just filled with random detectives from. like fraud departments. Random. departments that typically don't deal. with homicide because. people are dying. Like, we got to go.

stop the serial killer right now. And. now the house on 50 Old Colony Road, North York, Toronto, Canada, no longer. exists. Hm? The whole demolition of that $7. million mansion was very controversial. because it's still unsolved, the case. Yeah. Apparently, the structure was. demoed, but inside the house there were. lots of furniture, appliances, even. photos on the wall. Netizens thought, "Wouldn't family members who loved the. couple so much want to preserve these. things?" The Sherman kids' choice to. destroy everything in the house, wouldn't it make it more difficult for.

police to find the real culprit? Is what. netizens thought. I mean, it's not like. they need the money from the land or the. house sale. But the kids argued it pained them to. see the house just sitting there. They. also stated that they spent countless. days sorting through and donating. everything, and it was just difficult. because the police had ransacked the. entire place trying to gather evidence. They donated a lot of the couple's. clothes and raised thousands of dollars. for charity. Now, this is where the story keeps. getting crazier. Two days before the. house was demolished, an urban explorer, that's what they call themselves, the.

people that go and explore like. abandoned hospitals and abandoned towns, he snuck into the Sherman home. Unrelated to the case. He doesn't know. the Shermans. He just knows about the. case online. He explores creepy haunted. places online, and he's like He go there. because of he knows it's them. Okay. And because the house is about to get. demolished. Okay. So, the electricity. had been cut off. He said he opened the. door to a pitch black space. He had his. flashlight. The entire house was creepy. He said there was stuff everywhere. Furniture, clothing, artwork, books, personal stuff, photos of the deceased.

everywhere. He said every room that he. stepped into, he just said, "Jesus. Christ." He said the master bedroom had. holes punched through the walls. It. looked like somebody was looking for. something in the walls. That's not what. the place would have looked like at the. time of the crime, but it's just like. after everything, right? But the worst. part, he said he walked into the. underground pool room. He expected his. flashlight to hit the water and reflect. off of it, right? And help illuminate. the room, but instead it was just this. dark hole that swallowed up his light. He said the room smelled awful, and.

everything was dead silent. He said this. was far darker than anything that he's. usually interested in. He said, "Needless to say, it's something I'd. never want to do again. Such terrible. energy. The fact that I was in complete. darkness made it more sinister.". He said he went home, uploaded a few. pictures to Reddit, and according to. him, within minutes received a cease and. desist from the Sherman children's. attorney. telling him to immediately delete all. information, or else there will be legal. action. Wow. So, two days after the home was demolished,

the family sold the plot of land for. $4.25 million. to a 28-year-old professional swimmer. that lived nearby. And we do have an update on this case. December 14th of 2021, almost exactly 4. years after their deaths, Toronto police. released surveillance footage of a man. in black winter clothing walking, quote, "with purpose" near the Sherman. residence at the time of their deaths. Authorities just kind of released it and. said, "This is who we're looking for.". But they've been really tight-lipped. about this, other than the fact that all. we know is the footage is from Wednesday.

night. It's in line with the time of the. murder. The man is likely between 5'6". to 5'9", and that's it. The interesting part is body language. experts have noted that based on the. walking man, that's how people dubbed. him, the walking man's posture and gait, the way he walks, they think it's highly. likely that he had undergone many years. of military training. We have been able to eliminate the vast. majority of people captured on the. video. We are left with one individual.

whom we have been unable to identify. I would ask that you take a look at the. screen and observe this individual. Through our investigation, we have been. unable to determine what this. individual's purpose was in the. neighborhood. The timing of this individual's. appearance is in line with when we. believe the murders took place. Based on this evidence, we're. classifying this individual as a. suspect.

Though there is a lack of detail in. features of this individual, we believe. that further information from the public. could assist us in making an. identification. I would ask that you pay particular. attention to the gait or the stride or. walk style that this person. uh has on the video. We are not able to provide you with any. certainty the person's age, weight, or. skin color. However,

through photogrammetry that the suspect. in this video is standing between 5'6". and 3/4". and not 5'9" and 1/2". And now a new theory has emerged. Maybe. whoever wanted the Shermans dead didn't. do it themselves. They could have hired. a retired police officer turned. professional assassin or a former. special forces operative turned hitman. to do the dirty deed. That is what the new online theory is. But authorities even stated, "We just. really have this footage. For all we. know, this man in this footage could be.

completely unrelated to the case. It's. just a theory we're exploring.". So, there's that. But this is the first time in the case. that the police have officially. classified someone as a suspect. They've. always had persons of interest, but not. a suspect. The police have also sent out warrants. to five different countries, which were. undisclosed. So, it's rumored, could. this walking man perhaps have fled to a. different country? But all of this, again, just bolsters the online theory. that someone who knew the billionaire. Shermans wanted them dead. Their alleged.

murders remain unsolved even with one of. the highest rewards in true crime. history, $35 million. Jonathan stated. during his parents' funeral, "My sisters. and I pledge to rise again and to. continue thriving and to continue. building our parents' legacy of loving. life, caring for others, and knowing, as. our parents always reminded us, that. with great privilege comes enormous. responsibility. We promise to honor your. legacy by staying together, staying. strong, and of course, continuing your. legacy of giving." But that is where we.

are with this case right now. It's a. very complicated case. I will say I had. some trouble with this one. You know, we're talking about two victims of a. potential double homicide. But then you're also talking about so. much social conversation of. these victims are billionaires, right? And exactly who could have It's just It. just felt very complex. Yeah, just very. complicated. What are your thoughts on. this case? Please stay safe, and I will. see you guys on Sunday for the. mini-sode. Bye.