Babysitter Returns Dead Baby Back To Mom - Then Can’t Stop Smiling During Interrogation

[Music]. bada bing badao two sisters walk into. one of those coin laundry mats with the. washing machines all lined up on the. sidewall it's October in Wisconsin at. around 9:00 p.m. so both the sisters. Heather and Jesse they're walking in. wearing winter coats they've got. Heather's two kids with them a boy. toddler and a little 11 week old baby. baby Benson so right when the sisters. walk in these sisters they're on a. mission they already had the clothes in. the washer they got move them to the.

dryer they have clothes in the dryer. that they have to take out and fold I. mean it's a whole system that they've. got going on Jesse is holding on to her. little nephew the toddler she's swinging. him around carefully trying to cheer him. up while baby Benson is deep in his. sleep in the car seat it's a little bit. cold it's a little bit gloomy outside. and they're doing chores it's not the. most fun activity but everyone's trying. to have a good time until everything. changes Jesse the sister and the Aunt to.

the babies she stops folding the clothes. and she just takes a moment to lean over. and peer into baby Benson's Car Seat. where he's been asleep the whole car. ride to the laundry mat he's been asleep. since they got here a few minutes ago. she looks at him closely and she pauses. for a second wait he looks Heather why. are his lips so blue Heather come look. Heather the mom walks over and not only. are her son baby Benson's Lips blue they. look strangely like they're stuck.

together like someone put super glue and. pressed his lips together they look dry. and his whole face is this pale ghostly. color she picks him out of the car seat. and he's cold he's cold he's completely. ice cold to the touch there's CCTV. footage of this and Jesse is running to. pick up her older nephew the toddler. into her arms her phone is already up to. her ear she's calling 911 Heather is. seen on the cameras quieter but she. looks hyperfocused on performing chest.

compressions on her baby boy 911 what's. your emergency please God this baby is. dead please we're at the laundry mat on. the corner of third and Union please. where are you it's a laundry mat I don't. know the name of it but I have another. child in my arms and my sister's baby is. dead we need you to start CPR on that. baby we don't know how we don't know how. is he on his back we have him on his. back I need you to tip his head back. he's freezing cold he's freezing tip his. head back Heather tip his head back you. can see holding the toddler in her arms.

he's crying he's starting to freak out. Heather again is hyperfocused on the. chest compressions and trying to figure. out how to do CPR now initially during. this phone conversation Heather sounds. determined she sounds like she has. nothing else on her mind but these chest. compressions but halfway through you. start hearing her voice start to shake. and while she keeps pushing down on her. baby's chest she says I can't do this. anymore I can't do this anymore he's. already freezing cold sit there keeps. doing compressions until he gets inside.

okay I feel I feel please I can't do. this Heather starts crying and the 911. operator keeps telling her keep doing. the compressions the ambulances are on. their way keep doing the compressions. they're on their way but it's no use. baby Benson is already dead he was. already dead when they pulled him out of. the car seat and called 911 and he was. already dead when they walked into the. laundry mat in fact he had been dead for. multiple hours which begs the question.

then when did he die how did he die and. why did nobody. [Music]. notice we would like to thank today's. sponsors who have made made it possible.

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around the infant age if that is too. much for you today please take it easy. go rest and I will see you in the next. one with that being said let's get into. it there is a woman named Marissa and. she's got a lot of boyfriends that's her. thing she is the queen of time. efficiency I mean she's so good at this. she will take a letter that one of her. boyfriends sends her with multiple pages. of graphic fantasies of what he wants to. do to her when he sees her again and how. they're going to make love and she will.

take that letter read it fully through. change the POV rewrite it in her. handwriting with the same plot the same. fantasy and send it to boyfriend number. two making it appear like this was her. fantasy that she has of him wait so. boyfriend writes a fantasy that he wants. to do to her boyfriend one writes her a. fantasy that he wants to do to her so. he's like I want to hug you she changes. the POV like I want to be hugged by you.

and sends it to boyfriend number. two exactly I mean for her it's just if. she finds someone that she has the same. interest in if she finds someone that. has the same value she has I mean it's. hard to give them up even when she has. like 10 boyfriends lined up she wants to. keep each and every one of them her firm. dating requirements are they better like. kids that is a deal breaker for her if. you don't like kids if you don't want. kids she's not going to be with you she. already has five kids she's pregnant. with her sixth kid and she still has.

plans to have at least two three more. kids wow she writes to one boyfriend you. only have one kid you know that's cool. you don't want any more kids that's not. cool cuz I want more kids I mean just. saying so we might not work out then and. the second dating requirement is they. can't take everything they see on the. news too seriously it's very annoying. when someone can't understand that. there's fake news being spread on. mainstream media news outlets and even. social media you can't just have a.

boyfriend who sits there and parrots. what he hears on the news without. thinking about all the biases that are. involved I mean really she hates the. news she writes to one of her boyfriends. about her whole life and she says I want. to move out of town and just be with you. and me like we always do we can work. watch movies have family time cuddle. sleep together sleep together and sleep. together some more she uses she says. okay miss you and your private part so.

much I mean I haven't shaved since I got. here it's not cool at all I have lots of. hair everywhere but I want to F you so. bad right now I miss you GH we're going. to f right away when we get home I don't. care how hairy I'm going to be either. anyway I love being a mom I love kids so. so much I love them so dearly truly kids. are everything to me and the news they. want to say that I'm a monster to babies. it's just it's unbelievable like I can't. really believe these people the news.

makes me look like I'm some monster and. that I kill babies it makes me mad cuz. I'm not a killer and I love babies I. love kids etc etc I'm a good mom like. what the was an accident I was. frustrated just a mistake that happened. and it sucks and I was frustrated and. scared and I did take on a lot of. responsibility but I love kids and I'm. not a killer and I'm still your good. girl always I would never beat a baby. hell no I love kids so much Marissa. hands that letter over to the prison.

guards it's just not fair it's just one. kid and the other two well those were. accidents too you. know what a few hours before baby Benson. was found deceased at the laundry mat a. couple is seen walking into McDonald's. with the same kids the toddler from the. laundry mat but this time two little. infants in their own car seats so they. have a toddler and instead of just one. car seat they have an additional car. seat so three kids three kids one's.

walking the other two are in the car. seat yes they walk over to the counter. they order their meal they find a seat. almost out of view from the CCTV cameras. and they sit down and eat within 15 20. minutes they're done with their meal and. they head back out to their car at this. point one of the five people the couple. and the three kids one of them was a. killer and they had just brought their. already murdered victim to McDonald's to. eat one last meal detective Holtz.

arrives to the laundry mat and there's. only two customers inside one woman at. the door screaming at the cop cars to. hurry and help hurry please come in the. police Rush In And they see another. woman doing chest compressions on an. infant laying on the table it's not. looking good the officers get closer the. baby's skin color looks like ash the. area around his lips are completely blue. and the officers take over to begin the. CPR but this is the odd part so the. first thing that they need to do is.

check the baby's Airways to see if. there's something obstructing his. breathing AKA did he choke on something. but when they try to get his mouth open. to look inside his throat his jaw is. locked it's completely clenched they. can't even get it open to see inside of. his mouth that fact combined with the. fact that his body is ice cold it's. likely that rigor mortise has already. said in baby Benson likely died at least. 2 hours ago s another detail the police.

noted was when baby Benson was laying on. the laundry mat table his legs were not. falling onto the table because they were. bent like he was still inside the car. seat rigger mortise again had set in. they're not falling to the table from. the gravity they picked the baby out of. the car seat and lay on the table the. mom did but the baby's still fixed in. that seating position yes the legs are. still bent what is going on I mean. obviously authorities have to run. through all the theories is it sudden. infant death syndrome SIDS I mean the.

possibilities have to be checked off did. this baby die from a cold was it already. a sick baby previous illnesses I mean. they also have to confirm with the. hospitals and the mom but baby Benson. was in the niku maybe once for a high. fever but that was right when he was. born he's been a very healthy baby since. then how old is the baby once again 11. weeks old wa so that's not even 3 months. exactly I mean of course it could always. be the mom because the baby is only 3. months old it could be postpartum.

depression the police do have to think. about that but the mom does seem very. open to being investigated she's handing. over her car keys her diaper bag her. phone literally whatever the police want. she's giving it to them no questions. asked Heather and Jesse the sisters they. already have an idea of what happened to. Baby Benson and they're ready to share. it with the investigators or at least. what they think or who happened to him. they are certain that the babysitter did. this I mean it has to be the. babysitter pleas go to that babysitters. house she has another child there and he.

was like delusional when we picked him. up he could not even open his eyes first. G they need little more info what. exactly happened the police are confused. what do you mean why do you think it's. the babysitter I mean her face was beat. red when we went to pick the kids up she. was sweating she looked scared the. sisters explained usually when we pick. up the kids the babysitter never has the. boys ready so we go inside we take our. time we get them ready we get them. changed into their car seats Heather. always help helps this time the.

babysitter is waiting at the door with. the kids she doesn't even really turn on. her porch light the whole entrance to. the house is dark it's dim whether her. porch light is barely on or it's off. they don't even know basically she's. rushing them out in the dark practically. pushing them out the door she's not even. letting them inside the sisters were. maybe standing in the doorway for about. 2 seconds they briefly point out what. appeared to be a hickey on the. babysitter's neck Heather states she did. not see this hickey when she dropped off.

her kids so this is very alarming. because you're supposed to be. babysitting why do you have a new hickey. but the babysitter just made a joke as a. response and then rushed them out so. when that door shut they're gone they're. out there it was so quick but again her. face was quote Bea red I'm not even. kidding you both the sisters remember. thinking at that point Jesus Christ what. the hell is going on it was just so. unusual and this was like 20 minutes ago. so when they saw her face is beat red.

are they assuming that she's nervous red. or was she like they think she's like. exercising red or nervous like she's on. something that's how they describe. her they did notice that Benson had his. hat pulled down over his eyes he was. asleep in the car seat they didn't want. to wake him up I mean Heather as lightly. as she can when placing him into the car. she lightly so gently pulls the Hat up. to uncover his eyes just because because. she's worried he's going to wake up from.

his nap and start freaking out if he. can't see anything suddenly they put him. in the car they drive to the laundry mat. they gently take the kids out and they. start moving the clothes to the dryer. it's not until maybe a few minutes in. that they went to check on him and they. realize that his body is ice cold. Heather starts realizing what all of. this means and she starts losing control. of her emotions which nobody would blame. her for but she has been doing an. incredible job so far at keeping her. emotions at Bay to answer all the. investigators questions and it's.

starting to crack I I just picked him up. from the babysitter is is he dead please. don't tell me he's dead the police are. quiet that girl just killed my baby I. picked him up from the babysitter I came. back to get my clothes and I took him. out and he was cold and he's not moving. and I can't I got to get my son out of. here I can't do. this oh no these are the ambulance. people no. please no. that [ __ ] somebody go get arrest.

now somebody killed that baby. no there was another problem on hand. Jesse Heather's sister tells the. investigator I I sent a text to the. babysitter on Heather's phone when all. of this was happening and I shouldn't. have done it I know I shouldn't have but. like I said I was just so angry I texted. her you killed my sister's baby what did. she say she didn't say anything back I'm. sorry I know I shouldn't have I was just.

so angry can you tell that she read it. was it like a Facebook message or a text. me a text it doesn't even say if she. read it I'm sorry no it it's all right I. was just angry and I was I was on. Heather's phone and I saw her name and I. just couldn't not say it you know I'm. sorry and what did you say the name of. the babysitter was in that moment if the. police felt their heart sink they don't. show it they don't even skip a beat but. I'm sure on inside these officers.

they're panicking the babysitter's name. is Marissa tisort and the officers are. quite familiar with her and the fact. that she's not allowed to be anywhere. near any children one officer turns to. her partner far enough away from Heather. and her sister so that they cannot hear. we need to do a CT scan or something to. make sure he doesn't have a brain bleed. that's hermo this is the third infant. that's gotten hurt in her care she has. been responsible for brain bleeds and. skull fracture.

Jen said. uh. Marissa has been responsible for John. look like on four different children. including. um skull fractures and stuff so whoa so. she has previously killed two babies. injured injured two babies Marissa the. babysitter had done this before the. detectives drive up to the Plaza Hotel. at 4: in the morning so this is hours.

after the laundry mat situation I mean. I'm sure it's a nice hotel during the. day but at night it it's a little creepy. the hotel setup is kind of like the back. rooms you walk in and in the middle. indoor is a giant pool each Hotel floor. has a hallway with a railing that. overlooks the pool in the center so once. you exit your room I'm sure the smell of. chlorine just hits your nostrils and you. hear water splashing it's a very. interesting concept and it's very creepy. at for in the morning but the police.

aren't here for the pool they're here. for Marissa and her long-term boyfriend. Adam that's who's checked into room. 214 the police start banging on the door. Marissa we know you're in here open the. door we're not going away Marissa open. the door Marissa the door finally swings. open and it's Marissa's shirtless. boyfriend the father of her children. Adam he's standing in the door and there. are at least three police officers. standing in front of him at 4 in the. morning and he looks more Angry than.

confused good morning Adam is Marissa. here what are you guys doing here the. officers walk into the room they're. scanning the walls the counter surfaces. anything for any weapons anything that. could be used against them wait does the. police know him too yes the fact that. they address him by first name that's. crazy they spot a baby maybe a month. older than Benson laying in a crib in. the room that's the couple's child Adam. just cooperate with us okay we're going.

to explain everything in a second well. you already charged her what the. [ __ ] Adam stay here no you guys are. harassing the hell out of us at this. point Adam thinks the police are here to. talk about a previous charge that. Marissa was charged with Adam stay here. no you guys are harassing the hell out. of us and she already got charged we'll. be at court why you got to come here. well because we need to talk to her. about something new something new why. are you guys here at this hotel because.

we wanted to get away from what. everything is it against the law to come. stay at a hotel room for the night in. the body cam footage you don't see. Marissa in the room you see Adam. standing there shirtless you see the. other officers standing in the room but. you don't see Marissa and that's because. she's hidden from the view of the body. cams this whole time that the police. have been banging on the door Adam has. been screaming what are you doing here. you're harassing us Marissa has not been. seen on the body camp footage the. detective walks over pulls the blanket.

back Marissa can you get up so that I. can talk to you Marissa has been. pretending to be asleep this whole time. in the room in the room is a it's a. small room right it's a hotel room right. it's just a bed they're standing next to. the bed Adam is screaming at them oh oh. they've been banging on the door for 10. minutes they're standing literally. looking down at Marissa and she. pretending to be asleep Marissa and Adam.

are separated to be questioned by the. police because technically they are the. last ones to see Benson alive if anyone. knows something it's going to be them. right where would you like to talk right. [ __ ] here okay as you can't tell I'm. a little pissed off it's 4:00 in the. [ __ ] morning yeah I'd like to be. sleeping. too so what's going on detective Holtz. and Captain Graham take Marissa out into. the hallway Adam is in the hotel room. with another officer wait I'm so sorry.

so the police pull the blanket say get. up yeah she gets up she gets up yeah can. you get up so I can talk to. you she's like oh my gosh oh my God. didn't know you guys were here. basically detective Holt starts her line. of questioning I mean she's pretty. upfront about the situation but see if. you can spot all of the odd details of. the interrogation. said this is a very important.

conversation we're about to have okay. tell me about taking care of him today. oh I was just watching him and he was. fine that was about it did you feed him. I fed him once and he slept and then. well we went outside when they got here. first a little bit cuz he was nice out. you and the kids mhm okay and he was. dressed in what he was dressed in a. snowsuit basically one of those like. gray fleece onesies to keep him warm he. was dressed in his a snowsuit and a.

blanket okay and then you were home. alone and then what time did Adam get. home he got home at like almost I don't. know maybe 6:30 or something like that. where was he at he was hunting okay and. then what did you guys do after that. after Adam got home we went out to eat. after he got home where did you go. McDonald's which one the one over by um. the. courthouse inside or drive-thru we went. inside okay and how long did you stay.

there uh I don't know maybe 15 minutes. tops okay so you ate inside mhm we ate. inside you were able to finish your meal. in 15 minutes. mhm okay okay and then what happened did. you come straight home after McDonald's. mhm only place you went outside the. house was McDonald's mhm then came. straight home anything significant. happened now something interesting to. note is that throughout this whole line. of questioning that's how it starts it's.

a little weird that Marissa doesn't. immediately ask what's wrong with baby. Benson why are the police questioning. her at this hotel when they initially. take Marissa out into the hallway they. just tell her they're having an. important conversation about baby Benson. she doesn't ask is he okay what happened. what's going on is everything all right. she's just like he was fine when I was. taking care of him which is very. odd um I fed him once and then he slept. and. and well we went outside when I first.

got there a little bit so it was you and. the kids so now she starts asking what. do you mean so tell me about taking care. of Benson today again I was watching him. and he was fine Marissa has her arms. crossed her lips are in this tight thin. line that they're they're pointing. downwards she's frowning I personally. try not to include too too too much body. language theories and Analysis in these. videos because I personally don't feel. like I'm know enough but also I think. it's just a very tricky area where.

sometimes subjects have medical. conditions they could genuinely be. nervous from talking to authorities or. have nervous body language so with that. being said she looks so guilty I mean I. don't know how else to put it she just. looks very odd yeah I mean especially. when we know yeah when someone is guilty. and then you looking at the way that. they try to lie or cover it up that's. now to be fair body language experts. have stated that arms crossed and thin.

tight lips that are pointed downwards. typically indicates that somebody is. feeling heightened levels of discomfort. and frustration in a situation this is. not a very normal response to hearing. news like this if you were truly. innocent and you hear that a baby in. your care is now injured or something. happened you would not be uncomfortable. and frustrated you would be concerned. worried. anxious Marissa responds no nothing. significant happened we came home after. McDonald's we put a movie in then I. don't know how long it was after but.

Heather called and she's like I'm. putting my clothes in the dryer and I'll. be there in 15 minutes yeah so 15. minutes later she came there okay so did. you get him ready or did she get him. ready yeah I had him ready I left him in. his car seat okay how long had he been. in his car seat after McDonald's it was. maybe only like half an hour 45 minutes. maybe it was right after McDonald's I. just left him in his car seat you didn't. take him out no because she usually. comes around like 9:00 and he was. sleeping so another thing nens have.

pointed out please let me know if you. caught this are that her descriptions of. the day are very vague usually people. will have a lot more details to add but. it seems like she can barely remember. what's going on and there's only about. three to four activities that she listed. happened through the day there's also no. person or reaction in any activity. there's no we went to McDonald's because. the toddler was hungry he kept saying he. wanted chicken nuggets so we went to. McDonald's you could almost replace. anybody in these activities the only.

part where there's a little bit of that. is when Heather calls to tell her she's. going to be picking up her kids in 15. minutes um I put my clothes in the dryer. and then I'll be there and then like 15. minutes she came there so okay the. detective keeps going he was awake the. whole time no he was sleeping when the. whole time the whole time you babysat. him all of a sudden Marissa's mouth. turns all the way up and she smiles.

really big it's a bit of a creepy smile. she's showing all of her teeth and then. she responds and when she's talking it's. kind of like she can't wipe the smile. off her face but nothing warrants a. smile here other than the fact that she. feels uncomfortable being caught in a. weird situation where she basically lied. about him being asleep she smiles no I. mean like after he got there he was up. for like a couple hours and then I fed. him and then I put him in the pack and. play and then I had this little camera.

like the video monitor and then like I. didn't check on him cuz I have that now. so like yeah awake the whole time no. he's he was sleeping when the whole time. the whole time your Babys sat him well. no I mean like after he got there he was. up for like a couple hours and then he. was in your back bedroom mhm in our. bedroom then she just pauses for a. really long time just starts zoning out. it looks like she's trying to look. through the walls of the hotel to see.

what Adam is. doing why did she smile or laugh it's. weird she just keeps. smiling I think she smiles when she lies. or knows that she's been caught in a. lie I almost feel like it's her way of. trying to appear innocent I see she's. just zoning out and the police ask her. are you okay and she smiles again and. starts yeah I just have sleep. deprivation playing stuff and then.

um are you okay yeah I'm just like have. sleep the audio of this next part is. redacted but the authorities decide to. finally tell her that Benson has passed. this reaction is what caused this case. to go viral so they presumably tell her. that baby Benson is dead the baby that. she had been babysitting the day of has. passed and you know when you're in a. fight with someone let's say you're in a. fight with your partner and it's not a. serious fight just arguing about I don't. know something and they toot they fart.

or they accidentally do something that. makes you want to smile because they. completely caught you off guard but you. have to remind yourself wait I'm in the. middle of a fight right now and I can't. be smiling so you almost have this. forced frown and while the lips are. pointing downwards it feels like the. rest of the face is having a split. identity crisis where it wants to smile. the eyes are almost smiling that's her. reaction to Baby Benson's death like she. wanted to laugh yeah and when when she. starts talking her face briefly betrays.

her and it looks like her lips are going. up in a smile and she scrunches her face. up and goes why is he. dead why is he dead not what do you mean. wait that doesn't make sense how is he. dead what happened why is he dead why is. he. dead we were hoping that you could shed. some light on that I don't.

know Marissa she sniffles but her face. turns more into a smile and if you just. screenshot this part of the. interrogation and you take a picture of. Marissa you take it onto the street and. you ask people hi what emotion does this. woman have they would say Carefree happy. someone who just was told a joke her. smile lines are out she's literally. smiling and it's not like this. uncomfortable smile either it's like a. genuine smile then she opens her mouth. with her lips still upturned in that.

creepy smile and she squeezes her eyes. closed like a 10-year-old and starts. making a strange crying noise and I need. and I need you to tell me what happened. I don't know what happened so for the. audio listeners I think the best way to. describe what she looks like is Gollum. from The Lord of the Rings the character. I'm not sure how to describe it more. which one is go the one that's like my. precious he just keeps smiling and it's. like this creepy smile and just like the.

way that her hair is tied everything is. very gum and the strangest part is again. body language when someone starts crying. it's usually a full body experience. especially devastating news like this. this isn't just about finding out that a. random passer by died in a hotel room. one floor down this is a child that you. babysit regularly there should be other. movements in her body when she squeezes. her eyes shut to cry I mean perhaps a. hand to the face hand to the chest to. her stomach but it's like the rest of.

her body freezes in fact she has her arm. up against one of the railings she's. like leaned with her elbow on the. railing and she just starts squeezing. her eyes together trying to force a cry. yes and it's like her whole body freezes. she uses all of her energy to focus on. squeezing out a tear that won't come out. and she almost doesn't want to cover her. face so the police can see her cry she. finally moves one hand to an eye and. it's just a strange visual why is he.

dead we were hoping that you could shed. some light on that I don't know what. happened this is the most important. conversation you will ever have in your. life you I'm telling you no you're not. telling me you didn't tell me last time. and you're not telling me now and I need. you to tell me the truth Heather. deserves to know what happened I. know at one point she turns to face. detective Holtz and tells her in this. shaky voice like shaky as if she's so.

distra I'm telling you the truth. detective Holtz does not care and she. responds you are not and instantly. Marissa's face goes from scrunched up. and emotional and crying and Shak and. telling you the truth to her face looks. emotionless and her eyebrows are raised. and she goes I am no you're the truth. not I. am I don't know know what. happened interesting did you catch that.

because the police you I didn't know he. died and that's also a lie because she. texted you and told you that he. died remember oh my gosh Marissa throws. both of her hands in the. air my phone's off no it's not yes it is. you want no it's. not I'll show you my phone I'm serious. how do you think we found you. I'm.

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Shopify sign up for a $1 per month trial. period at shopify.com roten all. lowercase go to shopify.com roten now to. grow your business no matter what stage. you're in shopify.com. roten right before this authorities had. broken into her home looking for her she. was not there they went through the. courts to be able to get an emergency. track on her phone and that's how they. got to The Plaza Hotel at 4:00 a.m. to.

ask her about baby Benson they cannot. Trace her phone through cell towers if. her phone is off I'm. serious now cut the crap Marissa this is. the third time we've had a discussion. with you Marissa crosses her arms about. a child an infant in your care and now. one is dead one is dead she starts. smiling and. crying I can't do nothing to.

him then who did no one he was fine did. Adam do something to him no no one did. anything to him he was fine babies don't. just die he was fine the police know. Marissa is lying just like they knew she. was lying 2 months ago detective Holtz. received a report a little 11-month-old. girl was with her babysitter and she. received a skull fracture as well as a. potential brain bleed detective Holtz is.

assigned to the case and she has social. workers that are going to be present. during this whole investigation since it. involves children it's not just her on. the case the group of them they head. over to this babysitter's house to. investigate that's where the incident. took place they need to know what's. going on because the doctor is pretty. certain that the injuries do not look. accidental and even if they are this. type of particular situation it's. probably neglect if it's not straight up. violence and abuse it's probably neglect. detective haltz knocks on the door to. the babysitter's apartment and a man. named Adam opens up the door he says his.

girlfriend Marissa isn't home right now. but she's going to be home soon he lets. them into the house where every single. surface of this home is covered in some. sort of live laugh love signage I mean. every single inch if there's a few. inches above a door frame every single. inch up there is filled with a little. picture frame a live laugh love sign a. little knickknack it does not appear to. be well done it's very busy but only. live laugh love s no just like other. things that you would imagine are in the.

live laugh love aesthetic yeah it does. not appear to be very well done it looks. very busy I mean imagine a hoarder but. instead of piling little figurines just. poits postcards signs on the floor in a. pile they just hung it up all over the. walls all over it every surface. detective Holtz looks around while. asking Adam about the incident he States. yeah a little girl that Marissa was. babysitting had fallen off the couch. detective Hol asks Adam when you say the.

child fell off the couch did you witness. that or no but I mean muris is one of. those people that I mean she resorted to. drugs because her kids got taken away to. the point where she was just a rack of. Bones and the only way we got her to go. to the clinic and get clean and she's. been clean for 4 years now is we told. her that we were going to sign her into. rehab if she doesn't want to forcefully. get put there she's got to get clean. sure that's fair enough she has no. reason to lie to me and I mean whenever. she babysits kids we we have other. people that she watches for you know he.

walks over to the little den area and. motions over at this coffee table this. coffee table gets put into the living. room and then the kids get toys put out. on the ground all over the floor as you. see you know the toys are here basically. he's telling the authorities that. Marissa is very diligent when she's. babysitting he goes on to explain that. Marissa had just put the little girl on. the couch for 2 seconds went to the. bathroom and as she was pulling up her. pants she starts hearing crying she. rushes out and know accidents happen in. fact it's kind of annoying that the.

mother of the girl would even report. this in the first place he starts. ranting I [ __ ] like they are and. can't come talk to me about something or. come talk to us before they go and get. you guys involved I mean she obviously. fell and hid a toy or something. Marissa's not going to go and beat a kid. I mean she was molested as a child and. stuff so she's very protective of the. kids I mean this is all ridiculous I'm. getting a little bit upset right now no. I I know just calm down everything's. fine I can't calm down because like I.

said I got over by Social Services too. many times I tried to work with them and. now look he's our fifth child he points. at a newborn I got pictures of my kids. over here and that's all I can do why is. he so mad he likes to throw temper. tantrums he's a little hysterical I. don't know how else to put. it the detective hears someone at the. front door and the front door swings. open and Marissa walks in she walks into. the kitchen and right past the detective. and social workers does not say hi.

doesn't even really acknowledge them. just walks right past them eventually. she does come back out and the. authorities start pressing her again I. was babysitting she so she's always like. that even at the hotel room she's just. like let me pretend I'm not here let me. pretend they're not there and I'm not. here and they'll. leave yeah she explains to them I was. babysitting she went to bed so I decided. to clean and then I was like doing the. dishes heard her screaming and then. stopped doing the dish dishes and then. she fell off the couch and there's a.

bunch of toys because usually I have her. sister so like she follows her so I had. a bunch of toys out in the living room. so you were doing dishes and then you. heard screaming fascinating either Adam. remembered wrong or Marissa has two. stories for this event she was literally. just pulling her pants up and she heard. her cry and then I was like uh doing. dishes her her screaming was she in the. bathroom just pulling up her pants or. was she doing the dishes she must have. rolled off and then I stopped doing the. dishes and then she was on the floor all.

she had was a rug burn and then she had. bruises so she must have hit a toy on. the way down what toy was on the floor. like this table was out and I had a. bunch of toys in the middle of the rug. do you know which toys are out here A. bunch like I took a bunch of toys and. yeah she was just sleeping on the couch. has anything like this ever come up with. you before no as far as a child being. injured no are you sure about that were. you talked to about a year ago for a. child that was injured that sustained a. skull fracture a year ago a child in.

Marissa's care sustained a skull. fracture to the point where she had all. four of her and Adam's children taken. away from them their parental rights. were terminated which means there must. have been enough evidence at the very. first incident of that skull fracture. that it was not an accident in any shape. way or form typically the state does not. like to terminate parental rights to. give context it's very different from a. child being removed from the parents. custody that's usually temporary the. parent is still legally the parent they.

can prove to the state hey I fixed. whatever issues you said I had so can I. get my kids back they can regain custody. they can also visit their children but a. full termination of parental rights the. parent loses all rights to the Kid. Forever including visitation the parent. has no control over any decisions. regarding the child's upbringing the. parent is no longer the parent or. Guardian the child becomes legally quote. free for adoption which is a very weird. term but now if they Social Services had. known that this couple had another child.

a fifth child that is now in this house. they probably would have taken away that. child too wait so they lost all four. child for good yes that is crazy yeah. but they have their young son that was. born maybe a few months ago that's in. their care and Marissa is currently. pregnant again wow and she is working as. a babysitter this is after she already. has four kids taken from her and now one. of the girls that she Babys sits has a. massive head injury and Adam is trying. to convince them that clearly it's not.

Marissa's fault it's all an accident the. detective asks again has anything like. this ever come up with you before no as. far as a child being injured no are you. sure about that were you talked to about. a year ago for a child that had that. skull fracture that wasn't me you were. providing care for her well yeah I was. but I don't have any child abuse no. nothing okay I have five kids so like I. never I love kids I don't beat them. nothing okay I always babysit people's.

kids right and nobody's saying you beat. anybody but sometimes people lose their. tempers no I've never things like that. happen I never had postpartum. nothing the detectives tell her that. they understand they don't okay but they. tell her and for the time being since a. new investigation into child abuse is. being open they're going to need to find. a relative to take care of their son. that they have custody over Adam starts. losing his mind he starts screaming at. the detectives to get.

out hey can. we Adam stop Adam stop stop Marissa is. the one calming him down Adam stop they. said that he can stay with your dad. until the investigation is over no my. dad cannot watch him you guys can go you. guys can leave go you need to. leave Adam we can't leave right now Adam. picks up their son who is crying just. starting to walk out the with the baby. and the officers tell him you cannot. leave with this child watch me you. cannot leave with that child the baby.

starts crying in his arms they're all. standing in the kitchen and he's just. lost his mind finally the social worker. firmly tells him stop it you're scaring. the baby you're scaring my baby get the. out of my house Marissa offers to leave. he wasn't in the house when the accident. happened he wasn't involved so as long. as I leave since it's an investigation. into me he can stay with the baby no. Adam's not listening he's still. screaming if you think you're taking my. kid you guys can go. Adam I will leave and you can have him.

no they need to leave no because then. they're going to take him I've asked all. of you nicely I told you guys when you. came into my house did I not if you guys. think you're taking my kid or asking my. kid to go anywhere I don't have any. family members we have no family I was. not here why would my kid ever have to. leave when I'm his parent she was the. only one here she can. leave well that's what's going to happen. she's going to go stay with my sister he. uses both of his fingers to point at the. ground the baby is staying here that's. the situation you guys can go well we're.

not leaving until this is all sorted out. I told you guys what's going to happen I. told them when they came into this house. I told them nicely and I told them from. day one you guys are all lying all of. you that's why I don't trust any of you. [ __ ] I don't think anyone's lied. to you at this point did I not you guys. walked in the door I said if you think. you're going to do anything with my kid. you better bring the SWAT team that's. exactly what I said and I'm sticking. I'm sticking to it somehow he ends up.

shirtless and they're trying to inform. him it's not really how it works you. can't just tell the police to leave just. because you want them to and he tells. them it's my I pay the bills do you guys. come and pay my rent no so you can leave. which is a very juvenile. argument yeah and he's screaming at them. you guys can leave I'm not going to ask. you 15 times Adam if you can sit down. and relax I will relax as soon as you. get out my door you can talk through my. door but I don't want you in my house no. more I'm sorry we cannot leave with a. child with him in that state I'm pissed.

off because you guys are two fa [ __ ]. I'll be calm as soon as you leave. eventually the police do leave they. leave the baby under the care of Adam. and Marissa needs to find a new place to. stay while there's an active. investigation she is not to be around. any children at all until the. investigation is concluded 2 months. later October 18th she's around children. she is alone with her son Heather's. toddler and Heather 's baby Benson so. they removed her from the house yes but.

they don't check in every day that's. crazy she just came right back yeah wow. October 18th Heather probably gets the. worst text message you can get while. your kids are being watched by a. babysitter she gets sent pictures of her. babysitter Marissa mug shots and the. charges are listed as child abuse what. the hell is going on she starts freaking. out she reaches out to Marissa who has. her children right now and asks her if. this is true to which Marissa mes. response yeah come get your kids because. I'm not allowed to be around children.

that is the last thing you want to hear. Heather panics calls her sister Jesse. and asks if she can come with her to. pick up the kids so they rush they go. pick up the kids and they bring them to. the laundry mat now the whole situation. when they pick up the kids is very. strange and obviously alarming you're. saying on that day that they went to the. laundry mat is the day that she got a. picture from a coworker that's the day. yes but before that she didn't know that. Marissa was under like investigation for.

child abuse no Heather had known Marissa. since they were 15 which is why she. trusted her enough to watch her kids I. mean they didn't necessarily stay. friends the entire time but Heather was. working at Olive Garden and so was. Marissa's sister who basically tells. Heather you know it's kind of a win-win. situation Marissa had just given birth. she's already staying home to watch her. newborn son it's not going to take too. much more work for her to watch another. kid on top of that and on top of that. Heather you need a babysitter so you can. keep working of course Heather wouldn't.

have just left her baby with someone. that she believed was abusive I mean she. truly did not. know at the Plaza Hotel the officers. decide to ask Marissa and Adam the same. questions to see if their answers are. going to line up because interrogating. couples is always a very interesting. enlightening process if they're both. telling the truth then the answer should. be more or less the same because the. truth in these very extr types of cases. where somebody dies it's pretty. objective is somebody dead or not did.

somebody do something or not these are. very objective questions but if they're. lying then you have to wonder are they. lying to protect themselves and throw. their partner under the bus or are they. lying to protect their partner and it's. almost this game of how well do you know. your significant other let's say you. both have to lie about something you. have to choose an answer you think that. they will also choose otherwise the. police will know that somebody is lying. if your answers are different and that's. exactly what happens their answers are.

different right after Marissa is told. that Benson is dead and she finds out. and has this big emotional response the. officers they try to give her an out. they tell her I understand that things. get frustrating especially with you. being pregnant and having your own child. Marissa's face and voice goes from this. high-pitched crying sound to yeah no. they weren't frustrating I promise you. that I don't know what happened. I promise I understand that things get.

frustrating God especially with you. being pregnant and having a child of. they were. frustrating which is very interesting. because as she's outside promising that. Adam is inside the hotel room talking. pretty negatively about the boys he says. about the toddler he doesn't play with. much he's a pretty quiet kid I mean I. shouldn't say quiet if you look at him. wrong even he's going to start crying I. mean lately he's been getting used to us. and he describes baby Benson as being a. fussy crabby baby as soon as you pick.

him up he whes he's very difficult even. Heather told us he's been real fussy and. he's been real gassy and stuff now side. note even earlier in the day when Adam. was out hunting and Marissa was home. watching the kids he textt her are the. crybabies still there so meanwhile. Marissa says they're not frustrating at. all she can promise you that but Adam. says they're incredibly difficult and. they're very frustrating to deal with. the couple can't even decide on the same. answer if they're difficult or not.

difficult so the police keep going with. Marissa sometimes things happen but we. just need to know the truth and that's. all okay I had the baby monitor but I I. didn't kill him Marissa essentially. states that she had the baby monitor on. and she was watching Benson through the. baby monitor she did not kill him it was. just an implied accident she said she. didn't check up on him she went to go. pick him up from his you know little. crib and he was de. and then she returned the baby back went.

to McDonald's and then returned the baby. back yeah how do she explain that. exactly so the the police are like well. how long was it that you didn't check up. on him start from the beginning it was. like after before Adam got there I. checked on him did you know then that he. was but I didn't kill him how did you. know he was he does sleep that long and. like I don't know he felt cold he felt. cold and I was scared my boyfriend. wasn't home and everything so oh my God. I'm sure it's very scary but I didn't. kill him how did you find him how is he.

laying I put him on his belly and how. did you find him was he just on his. belly she starts explaining how she went. into the bedroom with the baby camera. where Benson was asleep in the pack and. play but she starts freaking out when. she sees that his face is in the blanket. like just head on nose into the mattress. which by the way you're not really. supposed to let the baby sleep on their. belly that young and he doesn't look. like he's breathing she starts freaking. out he's cold to the touch he likely. suffocated by accident in the pack and.

play that's what she's stating was there. anything coming out of his mouth no okay. and he felt cold mhm did you check for a. pulse did you see if he was breathing or. did you just feel his skin and it was. cold no he just wasn't making any noise. well what did you think was going to. happen when Heather came to pick him up. I don't know did you think that she. wasn't going to. notice yeah that she was or wasn't going. to notice she was going to notice. okay did you try and do anything to. revive him uh-uh did you do any.

CPR and she smiles this big smile like. really big like the thought of that. suggestion in itself is stupid type of. smile no cuz I don't even know how to do. that and the second she catches herself. smiling she quickly shuts it off do try. to do CPR no cuz I don't even know how. to do it okay. [Applause]. help me understand when you discovered. him there why didn't you call the police.

cuz I was scared and my boyfriend wasn't. there and I didn't want my baby taken. how did you determine that he was no. longer alive I picked him up and he was. really cold how did you pick him up I. just went like this okay and what did he. look like he's just. cold what did you do afterwards I laid. him down on the floor and I put a. snowsuit on then I grabbed his car seat. I put him in the car seat and yeah I put. some blankets on on him but you laid him. on the floor but you don't know CPR no.

attempts to call anyone or research. anything online yeah I don't really know. any CPR really and again that was before. Adam got home mhm and Adam did not. notice that he was dead he probably just. thought he was sleeping now Adam is also. asked about the series of events to make. sure they line up with what Marissa is. saying who went to McDonald's all of you. all of us the three kids in the back. seat which McDonald's the one by the. courthouse okay then we came home who. picked him up out of the pack and play.

and put him in the car to go to. McDonald's oh I picked him up and I put. him in there and he was absolutely. normal to me really what is normal to. you that's a lie right whiny as soon as. you pick him up he whines and stuff so. he was making noise when I took him out. of the pack and plate and stuff he was. whin and crying and. everything but deceased babies don't cry. so who's lying here and why Marissa ends. up being arrested for her previous child.

abuse charges and while she's in jail. the police start monitoring all of her. jail house calls minus the ones that she. has with her attorney of course and. they're just looking for anything. anything that she admits to anyone. because so far she's saying it's purely. an accident they know that it's not but. they need to get her to admit it or to. tell them what actually happened now. most jail house calls are pretty messy I. believe that most of them are monitored. and recorded and a lot of them are very. sexual as one might imagine and same. goes for Marissa not only did she have.

intense sexual conversations with Adam. but she had multiple new pen pals that. she would have these long sexual. conversations with she was known to be. very good at manipulating men into. believing that she is this dainty child. loving mother who is being attacked by. the media for no reason other than. sensationalism and as long as they send. her money she will marry them and bear. their children for them when she gets. out she also complains extensively to. all of these guys that the jail food is. not nutritious enough for her pregnant. body she keeps calling all the men in.

her rotation nagging them to send her. money to her account because the baby. can't eat prison food and she just has. this weird obsession with being pregnant. being perceived as a maternal woman I. mean she makes it her whole identity. because I don't think that she has. anything else redeeming about herself. her personality seems honestly. despicable so maybe this is her way of. trying to create a likable Persona which. it's not working when it comes to actual. children the actual part of being a mom. and a caretaker she does not care at all.

in fact it seems like she hates children. now side note Adam takes back his. statement of being the one to take. Benson out of the pack and play to get. him ready to go to McDonald's so. remember he specifically told officers. that he was the one that carried Benson. to the carrier and to the car and Benson. was very much alive and being fussy he. said he takes it all back he said when. the police asked him in the hotel he was. half asleep they barged into the hotel. room he didn't even know what was going. on he just assumed that he'd be the one. to put him in the car seat I I must not.

have I mean we watched him so often and. then you guys came in when I was half. asleep yet and after I had time to think. about it no I I didn't put him in the. pack or pick him up or anything and. merca even verified that that she had. him already in the car seat but now that. he's fully awake and he's had the time. to truly use his last remaining half. brain cell he remembers that Marissa. already had the baby ready to go into. the car seat. he just rushed in to get out of his. hunting Co he put his crossbow down he.

quickly changed and yeah they just went. to McDonald's now let's assume that Adam. had no idea that Benson was already dead. at this point why would Marissa want to. go out and eat it feels sadistic and. dangerous does she want to go out and. eat because she thinks it'll create an. alibi I mean she would be seen outside. with the baby and surely nobody would. assume that the baby was dead because. how ballsy do you have to be to go out. with a dead baby is this all the purpose. of creating an alibi or did she really. just not care at all that Benson was.

dead and she could just go out and eat a. meal that she's still living her life. like nothing happened I mean it doesn't. even face her is she that sadistic or. maybe it's a combination of both Adam. tried to argue no it's because we don't. ever cook and we always eat out but. earlier that day presumably after Benson. was already dead Marissa had killed him. Adam texted Marissa asking if he should. bring McDonald's home for them and she. responded no let's go together with the. kids So Adam states he never checked up. on Benson at all when he got home.

because he says he has five kids and if. he's learned anything at all from losing. five kids is that you don't wake a. sleeping baby now Adam does stay with. Marissa during all of this and he's even. angry for her she would call him from. jail and complain about how they won't. give her meds for her migraine and he. would scream into the phone well I'm. going to be calling up there because. they they need to give you yours tell. the guard that you need to go to the. emergency room keep pushing that button. keep pounding on that door I'm going to. call up there and do some freaking out. Adam also complains about how their son.

is a quote little end quote all he wants. to do is be held and then not be held he. also just randomly drops a ton of racist. and homophobic slurs in the middle of. random jailhouse conversations and then. he threatens to sue the jail for holding. some of their mail before giving it to. her and they call the social workers AC. n yeah this guy is crazy yeah so a lot. of people actually believe some netizens. believe that she's covering for him. because he has an explosive personality. they just don't think that he had. nothing to do with it however my only.

thing is Marissa seems absolutely. selfish I just don't see how she would. take all of the blame for this guy so. they they think she killed the baby no. that it was an accident that the baby. just like died in his sleep that's what. the police believes oh no that's what. Adam believes okay that's what Adam and. Melissa are trying to convince everybody. to believe but the police believe that. she was probably frustrated and she's an. evil person and either shook the baby. really hard or literally hit the baby on. the head multiple times Marissa also.

writes letters to her sister Britney. telling her to stay away from bad people. in her life giving her advice on how to. only befriend good people which like I. guess the first step would be not being. sisters with Marissa but she's giving. her all of this advice telling her to. send her money into the prison and then. immediately she'll write a letter to. Adam to tell him to cut Britney off. because she's worried that they're going. to sleep with each other behind her back. she would also write letters complaining. about being in jail she writes why me. I'm not a bad person I'm a good mom not.

a law breaker not a threat to society. either but the news detectives Etc they. make it look like I really am they don't. know me and everyone makes mistakes in. their lifetime nobody is perfect one. accident that wasn't supposed to happen. like that in 28 years of my life she. also tells another pen pal that she has. a million dooll. [ __ ] yeah and that he needs to send. money to her account otherwise she's. going to eat the bread that the prison. gives her for free which will cause her. to be overweight and he will not want. that I mean they just have zero remorse.

like this is what she's doing after. she's thrown into jail for killing a. baby regardless of which story Marissa. is saying or what anybody is saying or. what she's telling her pen pals her. versions of events do not line up with. baby Benson's autopsy it is clear that. according to his autopsy he sustained. multiple head injuries caused by blunt. force trauma to the head he had. abrasions on his nose his chin his right. ankle was fract Ed this was not caused. by Suffocation so the authorities bring. in Marissa for one last interrogation.

it's detective Holtz leading the. interrogation but Captain Graham who was. also president at the hotel is there. again and they straight up tell her I. can say without a doubt that what you're. telling me is not true he's got very. severe injuries to his head yeah I don't. know how I would like to give you an. opportunity to explain yourself I. promise you I did not do anything to him. I promise that's why I asked you if he. fell I know he didn't fall did he roll. and Tumble just a little bit Marissa not.

that I've seen I didn't do anything to. him Marissa starts sobbing I did not. kill him I could never kill anyone in my. life like I said I just fed him burped. him changed him I I put him in the thing. yeah I don't know how I'd like to give. you an opportunity to explain yourself I. promise you I did not do nothing to him. eventually in this last interrogation. they get her to admit that she was. frustrated by baby Benson he was crying. being fussy so all she did was pick him. up walk him over to the pack and play.

this is like a a play pen if you will. and it comes up to maybe about her thigh. like mid thigh above the knee dropped. him shoulder length down into the pack. and play she listened him cry for a. couple of minutes then repositioned him. on his stomach face into the pack and. play and then walked off she stated that. when she got back he was dead this is. what they're able to get her to admit to. but it's like that it was far worse than. that the injuries he sustained are. pretty bad she tries to argue that he.

might have tumbled a bit inside when she. dropped him into the pack and play from. shoulder length but again as horrendous. as that sounds the police believe it's. so much worse he had broken bones the. authorities suspect that she might have. chucked him from the door of the bedroom. into the pack and play like thrown him. like a basketball but she will not admit. to that Marissa ends up crying at the. end of her confession likely because she. knows that she just confessed to a very. serious crime and will be in jail for a. while they ask her one last time did you.

try to do something to bring him back to. life and she says tried blowing on his. mouth because that's all I know how to. do I don't know CPR so this is again. she's going back on her word and also at. one point this is a very chilling part. which she keeps screaming like I didn't. kill anybody I would never kill a kid I. love kids I didn't throw. him nobody ever said the word throw. nobody insinuated that she threw through. him nobody said anything that is so no I.

can never do. that no I could. never and at the end of it they are very. straight up with her at the end of the. interrogation they tell her she's going. to have a high cash Bond and she just. asked them can we not make it a high. cash Bond cuz I have to go to court for. the other thing on November 1st a baby. is dead I know I'm sorry I was scared. and frustrated and Heather gets. frustrated with him too I'm sure yeah.

she even said that she knows how her. kids are every parent gets frustrated at. some point so what's going to happen. down the line and eventually is you're. going to face charges for this incident. how long how much it almost seems like. she's surprised that she's actually. going to face charges for it she ends it. with I loved her kids I always babysat. them I liked her tell her I'm sorry and. I didn't mean to. in the end Marissa tries to argue that. she suffered from so much brain damage.

due to her extensive substance abuse. that this cannot be the real her that. committed the crime basically she's. saying she's not guilty by reason of. insanity she also writes a letter to the. judge that reads judge fault sad this. Marissa tort and I want a bond reduction. cuz this is crazy that don't get half. signature Bond and half cash Bond and. lowered like really I'm not a monster or. whatever I love my kids and I'm a mom to. five kids plus I'm pregnant now with my. six kid I'm 5 months pregnant and not. getting the food or medical treatment I. need for my unborn baby want to see if I.

can get ankle bracelet till get attorney. I'm not a bad person or anything also. I've been sober for 4 years thanks. Marissa the judge did not care for her. letter ultimately she was sentenced to. 37 years in prison for Bron's death. which is not nearly enough and I guess. the only Silver Lining if we have to try. and find one in this is that Marissa. genuinely thought that she was going to. get out in a few months genuinely and.

that is the case of Marissa tisort I. mean I don't even know what to say she's. just so bizarre we also don't have a lot. of information on baby Benson or Heather. and the family that's why um their. stories in this case is a little bit. light but it's just so bizarre it seems. like it seems like she wanted the money. from babysitting I mean clearly she has. she's a hoarder some people report that. she had storage closets filled with junk. like she just loved spending money why. does she have so many kids though like. yes okay so it seems like she likes the.

attention and wanting to claim herself. as this very maternal person I think. she's trying to make that her whole. image maybe she doesn't have much else. going for her so this is what she tries. to cuz she brings it up a lot when she's. talking to her romantic pen pals and. it's almost like a selling point yeah. she talks about how motherly she is how. much she loves kids how she's just kids. are her life I guess maybe makes her. feel good it's just so bizarre what are. your thoughts on this one let me know in.

the comments and please stay safe and I. will see you in the next one.