A Submarine Went Missing & Body Parts Were Found A Week Later In The Water

August 2017 a submarine goes missing off. the coast of Copenhagen in Denmark and I. feel like with the recent Titan. submersible that went missing the whole. world was watching that they were. following the story every step of the. way and it kind of felt like history was. repeating itself because six years ago. in 2017 there was another missing. submarine that literally captivated the. entire world and maybe it's the fact. that when someone goes missing we talk.

about how time is the most important. thing it is the only thing on our side. The First 48 hours are crucial I mean. really like the first hour the first 12. hours are crucial but with submarines. you're underwater you only have so much. oxygen I mean literally there is a. finite clock that starts ticking down. the minute that you go under. maybe that's why we're so fascinated and. captivated by these cases maybe it's the. idea of being trapped in the ocean that.

makes people morbidly curious or the. fact that so many people have gone on. submarines they've stated once you go on. a submarine there is nothing comparable. in The Human Experience because as. you're going down you hear the wind you. hear the waves there's all these sounds. but once you're under there's no noise. It's So Silent it's so it's a different. I wouldn't necessarily call it peaceful. they stated but it's it's a different. type of feeling you're completely. isolated from the world there's nothing.

there just total isolation and sometimes. total darkness they said truly it. compares to nothing you're far away from. home and you feel very alone it's like a. spaceship. and the idea that people could be. trapped in a situation like that it. makes people emotionally invested or the. fact that in 2017 when that submarine in. 2017 went missing it was a homemade. amateur submarine it was homemade and. the only two people that were trapped.

inside of it right then and there were. practically strangers to one another. they didn't even really know each other. so one of the two passengers was Peter. Madsen he was the one that built this. amateur submarine he was a bit of a. small celebrity in Denmark and they all. considered him like this eccentric. inventor this builder of all these crazy. machines he builds Rockets submarines. this is his third submarine so he's got. like a whole wild persona. and the other passenger was 30 year old. Kim Vol she was a world-renowned.

journalist who had gone under with Peter. to interview him about his submarine for. Wired Magazine. what so she's a journalist for Wire. magazine she's a freelance journalist I. mean I'm gonna go over her life story. but her credentials are out of this. world I mean I don't even want to say. that she was a journalist for Wired. Magazine she was working with the UN I. mean this woman is so talented and now. both of them are missing underwater and. only Peter would come back up alive.

Kim Vol would be tortured killed and. dismembered in that submarine. when authorities searched Peter matson's. computers later they found countless. videos of snuff films of women being. beheaded tortured even burned alive. the same day that he went into that. submarine with Kimball he Googled girl. decapitated agony. [Music].

please. [Music]. as always full show notes are available. at rottenminglepodcast.com there are two. documentaries on this case and HBO's. undercurrent and Netflix's into the deep. I would recommend undercurrent a lot of. Kim's friends and family worked with the.

producers and her story was shared. really well in the two-part series but I. think the Netflix one is it's very. controversial it is very chilling and it. primarily focuses on a ton of footage. because right before Peter committed. murder he was having a filmmaker come. into His Workshop every single day and. basically create a documentary for his. life. so there's just countless hours and. hours upon footage of Peter just saying. the most unhinged things which at the. moment it didn't seem that crazy but in. hindsight it's really chilling and it's.

all kind of centered around like How. Could This brilliant inventor do this. so uh both were used as sources as well. as a bunch of other sources will be. listed below in the show notes and with. that being said oh and one more thing. there is a kimwa foundation that I will. also Link in the description but we're. going to come back to it and her parents. wrote a book called a silenced voice. that will also be linked but with that. being said let's get into it. Kim Vol was born in Sweden she grew up. in Sweden like near the Sweden Denmark.

border and both of her parents were. journalists which I think is so. interesting so it's kind of like an. insane life it said that most of her. childhood should be in these newsrooms. like she's probably on the sideline. reading books because you're like a kid. and all these adults are running around. freaking out she would grow up listening. to her parents listen to strangers. collecting stories and truly trying to. get the heart of people like trying to. understand what they wanted to be shared. and I'm sure all of this affected her in.

a very big way because as she's growing. older she's like I want to do that Kim. Val stated pretty early in her career. that she wanted to see how the world. Works she said and I hope that maybe one. day I can learn enough to make a. difference. and pardon my language but she like did. the damn thing I think she is one of the. most accomplished people I've ever read. about so she's an independent journalist. that wrote about everything and everyone. that she felt did not have a voice she. wrote for Harper's the guardian the New.

York Times foreign policy Vice slate. wired South China Morning Post the. Atlantic I mean anyone you name it Time. Magazine her work has been translated. into several different languages she has. traveled the world she went to Sri Lanka. to report post-war efforts she went to. Haiti after an earthquake she went to. North Korea wow yeah she was one of the. journalists that went to North Korea I. mean when I tell you she wanted to see. the world and make a difference she did.

that all before she turned 30 years old. just even reading her writings and her. articles it sounds like I'm reading. someone that has lived a hundred years. on this planet like just the way that. she's able to connect with people and. understand their stories is so admirable. she's got two master's degrees one from. the Columbia School of Journalism she. was a United Nations press fellow she. was learning Mandarin she briefly went. to the University of Beijing at one. point she went to college in London she. was literally an Unstoppable human I.

mean like her career. while it was short it was incredibly. prolific her professors at Columbia were. so proud of her because they're like wow. she's one of the students we're gonna. brag about we're gonna be like I helped. make that you know and they would say. that she's so smart so tenacious and. even though it sounds like she had been. in all these dangerous environments and. going to all these places where most. people would be so nervous to go like. North Korea. she would never knowingly put herself in.

these situations and do something. Reckless it said that Kimball had a. maybe strong level of skepticism as most. journalists but her whole thing was okay. if I don't do it who's gonna do it and. like some voices just do not get heard. so she would go to these nuclear waste. sites and write about report about. climate change. [Music].

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were both in Delhi India they're both. working there and Kim comes up to the. friend group and she's like hey guys you. want to try this new Korean place for. dinner and they all agreed and they met. up with her but she starts leading them. into and this is how she describes it. like a very dangerous part of Delhi like. the part that every single person is. like don't ever go to this part of Delhi. bad things happen in this part of Delhi. don't go there like every city has their. bad neighborhoods she's walking them. straight into the bad neighborhood Kim. is just leading the group pushing. through the crowd of people she turns. into this tiny quote run-down building.

is how they describe it and friends are. really hesitant like. I don't think I really want Korean food. that badly and they follow her upstairs. and it's like. you would never believe a restaurant. like that existed in there it was just. the most quaint homey Korean restaurant. with Korean immigrants that owned it and. just the amount of culture and energy. that was in that tiny they said it was. the best Korean food that they've ever. had and they said that this incident.

really describes Kim she really liked to. bring light to things that you would. never guess to be so fantastic like. that's the kind of person she was so in. 2017 she's working as a full-time. freelance journalist which is um. like it's really difficult okay I mean I. would imagine being a journalist who's. already so challenging but as a. freelance journalist you have to. basically I mean figure everything out. yourself you've got to find the story do. the reporting sell the stories your. income is constantly fluctuating but Kim. is seasoned she even had gone through.

these courses like hostile environment. training so she was trained on what to. do in the event of a horrible car. accident how to provide Aid what to do. if she was being held hostage or if she. was kidnapped or in like a big mob. situation and this case it's so. infuriating because I think. the anger that comes with this case is. that she was just trying to do her job. she did everything right she was just. trying to do her job so summer of 2017. Kim is living in Copenhagen with her.

boyfriend she's doing freelance work and. it just felt like the pieces of her life. were kind of coming together perfectly. and she told her friends that she loved. Copenhagen she said it's so cozy it's. like I mean she grew up not too far away. from it and she said she was. outrageously in love with the city she's. trying to figure out her future it's a. little daunting it's a little scary but. it's working and it just feels like when. one thing goes right everything starts. kind of going right so Kim's career. although it's already so successful it. was just about to take off even more so. she's living with her boyfriend and both.

of them get a very interesting work. opportunity that opens up in China so. they're like let's do it we're gonna. pack up all of our bags and freaking. move to China like this is insane but. she kind of knows Mandarin so it kind of. makes sense and this is like the next. step in both of their careers so they. tell all of their friends guys we're. moving to China and it's like this huge. huge thing her friends are like we gotta. throw this huge going way party I mean. this is incredible congratulations and. the couple is so well loved A lot of.

people are going to be showing up. but Kim is a workaholic and she's like. okay let me get one more story before I. leave. One Last Story there was this man in. Denmark that everyone knew he was known. as the Elon Musk of Denmark I think it's. it's quite of a stretch look I don't. know if being called an Elon Musk is a. compliment to some people to others it's. the worst insult you can get but I think. at least financially and to a degree. scale wise it's a bit of a stretch for. this guy his name is Peter Madsen and he.

was eccentric people described him as. being wacky other people called him a. genius inventor that's what they called. him but the truth is the guy never. really invented anything he just built. rockets and submarines those are all. things that have already been invented. so he's just a maker of things I guess. and he would do it on a very very small. scale his whole dream was to put Denmark. on the map of producing rocket and he. told everyone why does the government. need to fund Rockets if a civilian wants.

to build a rocket they should be able to. build a rocket like they should be able. to be an astronaut he wanted to be the. first amateur astronaut and build like. the first amateur rocket company. basically everything he knew about. Rockets was pretty much self-taught so. he would give a lot of poetic TED talks. about not limiting yourself look the guy. was. yeah he was wacky I mean you can see why. his story appealed to Kim and in fact. Wired Magazine was like yes Kim do the. story we're gonna buy it interview him.

find out what this guy's shtick is let's. get to the bottom of it. am I gonna leave through this. plainly putting it. we lived and you're gonna die anyway and. there's no way around it. why not get the best out of life and. that's how I think of it Kim's friend. said when it comes to the type of work. that Kim typically does. a low-hanging fruit for her this is a. walk in the park I mean she's usually.

going to hostel in North Korea and now. you're saying just go interview this. weirdo to her I mean she's already got. her guards up she's like not the type of. woman to let her car down it's always up. but this is supposed to be an easier. project. so she had heard that he had this. amateur homemade privately owned. submarine she reaches out to see if he's. interested in an interview and on August. 10th she went to his little workshop to. do this quick little sit-down interview. so right after this she's supposed to go.

to her going away party that her friends. are throwing for her and her boyfriend. because they're about to move to China. but Madsen is like hey you know what you. want to go on the sub tonight like the. waters are calm we should go it's gonna. take like two three hours with the. submarine is where where is it. oh great I can show you how it works you. can do the rest of the interview get. pictures whatever you need to do. I mean she had already interviewed him. he seemed very normal and not that wacky. of an inventor I think that his.

reputation precedes himself not in a. good way but he's a little quirky but. it's probably because he's super. passionate she runs back home and tells. her boyfriend hey I'm gonna go on the. sub like this is perfect because I can. maybe even pump out this article before. we move to China like it'll be great so. she's very excited about her story I. mean she's the type of journalist that. gets really passionate about her work. she boards the sub at around 7 30 p.m. that night and there is a video of them. departing out and she's waving to.

whoever is filming because you know it's. a submarine it's not a boat so I imagine. if people are at the harbor they're like. whoa like there's it looks like a. cartoon it's a big black tube with a. little tower that you come out of like a. little tube that you come out of on top. and they're like waving by how big is it. though if it's about eight people and I. think it's like eight meters it's pretty. big when you look at it it looks like it. would fit more than eight people but I. guess most of it is like the engine and. stuff I would say maybe it's like a. double decker bus and more maybe like.

two double decker buses yeah it's huge. huge and it's like painted and kind of. like this splotchy black color oh it. just yeah so I think that even the. submarine itself becomes like this whole. dark imagery for this case. so there's a video of them departing and. she's waving and she looks very happy. and very excited it doesn't look like. she would have ever gotten into a sub. with someone that was giving her any red. flags. and it's not every day you go into a sub.

inside note this is not like the Titan. situation they're not going down super. far it's not like this impressive feat. where they're trying to beat records or. go where nobody's gone before or have. only gone a few times it wasn't like. that at all so truly the risks of this. were incredibly low they're probably. just emerging like 20 feet. they're like we're submerged that was. about it and everyone knew where she was. who she was with and he's like a minor. celebrity in Denmark it's not this.

random nobody. like everyone in Denmark knows this guy. everyone in Scandinavia knows this guy. so she takes all of her precautions as. usual she even texted her boyfriend and. many would find these text messages very. chilling later but she texted him I'm. still alive by the way but I'm going. down now love you. he brought cookies and coffee though. the I'm still alive by the way text. message would later haunt a lot of.

people. now the whole submarine Excursion and. interview was supposed to take like a. few hours max but when 10 pm pulls. around and she's still not home her. boyfriend starts to get a little bit. concerned she didn't even text him so. that's weird he waits just a little. while longer probably like all of us. he's probably trying to calm himself. down and thinking of all these very. reasonable very rational explanations on. why she might be running late but when. she's still not back and he checks the. clock and it's 2 30 in the morning he's. like yeah okay I'm gonna call the Coast. Guard because this is insane so at 3 30.

the coast guards start their search for. the missing submarine they sent two. Rescue helicopters three ships the Navy. got involved in looking for this. submarine and the submarine is called. the Nautilus side note it's often said. to be the world's largest privately. owned submarine so not owned by a. massive submarine Corporation or a. government military entity oh it is this. Submarine that's what they say but. um. if you've been listening since the start. of rotten mango we learned that the.

cartels had bought old Russian. submarines to transport trucks so I. would say maybe it's like the most. legally and openly owned submarine that. are not owned by um shadowy entities. okay like organized crime entities okay. but but it's still considered big yeah. yeah so it's huge and uh now it's. missing and everyone had the same. question that they had when the Titan. went missing how do you lose a giant. submarine How does it go missing who's. aboard the submarine what's going on and.

how much oxygen do they have left. so we know a bit about Kim let me tell. you a little bit about Peter Madsen. Peter Madsen calls himself the maker of. Extreme Machines he would go on these. TED talks and say some wild things like. what if you got a crazy idea that you. wanted to leave planet Earth what if you. got the idea that you wanted to go to. space. where he made TED Talks. yeah wow. people today they go out age 25 and they. get a pension.

age 25 they worry about what's going to. happen when they're 65 the banks are. telling us to think about that sort of. thing. you can have a prepaid funeral today. so that there's no trouble when it. happens I mean what kind of a world is. it that we don't let ourselves live. while we do it. being aware of the fact that it has an. end we don't know when it happens can be. a very strong motivation for life for. enjoying every second that we have of it.

enjoying everything that we can use to. tell stories to enjoy the other people. on this beautiful wonderful planet. I just think it's so important to. remember that we don't live forever and. to spend that time remaining that short. remaining time in a very best way take a. look. at this flying machine. now. I'm looking at it in the sense of a. sculpture. beautiful. it looks in incredibly beautiful.

I've always wanted to build my own. airplane I wanted it since I was a kid I. present to you. the most powerful machine ever conceived. by mankind six five four three two one. [Music].

thank you. ready it defies belief we had an. incredible flight. this rocket is. literally it's history we had a the. first time ever one of our Rockets going. straight up aiming for a point in the. sky directly above the launch platform. he was very unhinged but people liked it. at the time a biographer named Thomas. said that um he was the biographer for.

Peter Madsen he wrote a book on Peter. madsen's life Thomas said that Peter had. a way of just making people excited like. he knew how to sell his vision and the. dream and his whole Vision was not even. just about him but it translated to. other people and it was you can do. whatever you want you don't need. Government funding to create a rocket. company he wrote this before the murder. or yeah wow he followed Peter Madsen. around and wrote this book and it was. like this very heroic. embodiment of almost this Larger than.

Life character. Madsen would often use his own story as. proof so Matson grew up in a really. harsh environment his parents were Carl. and Annie an interesting thing to note. his mom Annie was 36 years younger than. their dad than his dad yeah yeah and his. dad Carl was. brutal. grew up in Sea Germany and he felt like. the only way to communicate with his. kids was to beat him like you want to. get something into your kid beat him you. want to get something out of your kid. beat him like that was his end-all.

be-all only form of communication Peter. Madsen did not have a normal upbringing. he likened his childhood to growing up. under the direction of a concentration. camp Commander eventually his parents. divorced and Peter was sent to live with. Carl his dad which I mean it was really. rough like he was forbidden to talk to. his mom forbidden his dad would not. allow it and this is very important. later it seems like his mom was the one. that was nice to him compared to the dad. but maybe he felt like she was failing. to protect him this is a thing that I.

see a lot with male Killers a lot of the. times the dad is abusive the mom is also. a victim of abuse but she is unable to. protect the Sun from the abuse of the. dad and instead of hating the dad they. hate the mom. it's very interesting so that's kind of. what happened to Peter Madsen he did not. take it out on his abusive dad he hates. his dad but there's almost a level of. respect when he talks to him it's like. oh we're just very different and he was. a very horrible person but there's still. that level of fear with his mom he said.

I didn't really want to live with her. anyway she was as stupid as a cat she. didn't know anything. if that does not sound like the origins. of a strong hatred for women I don't. know what does but we're still not there. yet we're still on the Rockets okay he. said that he was always interested in. Rockets like he liked it at a young age. he kept pursuing it he did a little bit. of engineering studying but most of it. was self-taught I'm a maker of Extreme. Machines I'd say I am.

originally educated a little bit as an. engineer a little bit as a naval. engineer a marine engineer on a test day. I'll sit on a rock crying because it's. so hard to organize people and to make. it all work and there's so much you have. to think about and you can be very very. alone in it oh three. two one zero. so he relies on people seeing his vision.

and believing in him and crowdfunding. but it worked really I mean it worked to. a degree a lot of rich people believed. in his vision as well. so he's over there with three submarines. the first one was Freya it was 20 feet. long and it could fit two people then he. had kraka it was reminiscent of a World. War II German sub it fit about three. people and then his latest one the one. that was missing the Nautilus it could. fit about eight people. and similar to the Titan um a lot of the. parts were just parts that you could buy. at a warehouse.

yeah and once he had those three Subs he. starts getting into other things he was. asked by reporters like Madsen what now. like you've got three submarines or. you're gonna build an even bigger sub. any he always had um. Peter Madsen really wanted to be a main. character that's what I can describe. about this guy he would gaze out when. people ask these interview questions and. instead of just being like a businessman. who's like you know what I think the. company directive is a b c and d he. would gaze out into the open air and he. would say.

I think I'm gonna do something else now. I think I'm gonna look up at the stars. he's talking about Rockets he wanted to. build rockets and. keep this in mind anytime Peter is. interviewed about his submarines about. his Rockets about his accomplishments. this is how he talks it's almost in this. poetic movie character wave that people. don't ever really talk in real life it's. like he's memorized a line and he's. waiting for that perfect question that. perfect moment to blurt it out and make. it like this motivational moment that.

you can put in a black and white photo. keep this in mind for later. in 2008 he becomes a co-founder of a. rocket company called copenhagen's. orbitals and he said that he wanted to. go into space with no Astronaut training. one of the first devices they made was a. centrifuge it's like a stick imagine a. stick sideways one side has giant fire. burst and then the other side had a. little carriage where he would sit in. and it would just spin him around really. really fast Non-Stop and then he was.

like I'm training for space. incredible it's completely incredible. there's an incredible ride we got to 60s. I could see it on the instrumentation. and I choose to carry on up to 70s and I. was effectively reaching the my own. limit congratulations thank you very.

much it's been a fantastic ride really. [Applause]. hahaha he wanted to be up there with the. Stars he did not want government funding. he wanted to build the rocket out of. things that you could find in the local. warehouse and he was getting funded so I. mean he poured a lot of his own money. into it all the money from his TED Talks. he's living part-time in a sub he's. crowdfunding this huge project and as. for the employees for this company a lot. of them were interns or volunteers they. were a lot of young people who had the.

knowledge. probably didn't have the credentials to. get a job but they had such deep. knowledge of engineering they were. genuinely fascinated by it and for. whatever reason it didn't translate. academically or maybe they didn't have. the funds to go into that but they would. just volunteer and it just. like imagine how hard and how few people. can work on rockets in this world I mean. think about it like the number of people. that's like I've worked on a rocket. before I don't even know how many there. are in this world so all these students.

they would gather they they studied. rockets for fun and they started working. for Matson and because he was getting so. much attention the biographer even. followed Madsen around started writing. his story his life story there were. other people a filmmaker that was making. a movie about quote rocket Madsen that's. what they all called him her footage was. actually used extensively in the trial. and in the Netflix stock but it was very. strange okay very strange energy at the. rocket company it was very invigorating. contagious it's like a time capsule they.

said it was like the Danish Space Age it. was exhilarating to be a part of. something big to see it all come. together and it just proved that you. really don't need to be this corporate. Fortune 500 company to make things. happen. Madsen was not driven by the money none. of the workers were and it's not like. they were trying to sell the Rockets. later they just wanted to prove they. could do it. that was most people's passion but. Madsen had a different passion too his. passion was kind of telling everyone. what to do here's what's interesting. he's not necessarily bossy.

he's controlling it seemed like he. really wanted control and all of that. would be easily overlooked because he. was so charismatic and because he had. this such a larger than life personality. and reputation anytime he did anything. questionable it was chalked up to him. just being quirky and eccentric he was. more of a cartoonish figure than a human. and he lived by cartoonish figure. standards of human decency I think. people were just really impressed that. he was selling this big dream and. a lot of people liked him now the Royal.

Navy of Denmark on the other hand not. impressed they actually knew about the. submarine long long long time ago the. Nautilus when it was being built and. they asked him hey. since you're doing this in Denmark and. like something happens to you we're. gonna be looking for you can we just see. the plans like the floor plans of your. sub I mean legally we can't stop you. from building this up we just want to. like give our input give some help if. you want it. they basically took one look at it and. was like that thing is going to sink one. day and we're gonna be doing search and. rescue.

they didn't say it to him but they were. all thinking it they all felt like the. submarine was way too heavy it just was. not built well and when the submarine. finally went missing in 2017 some of the. royal Navy commanders thought oh my God. it finally happened they didn't even. seem surprised I mean yeah they were. worried but maybe not surprised so they. gather their teams and they start. searching and remember they were. reported missing by Kim's boyfriend at 2. 30. the early morning of August 11 2017. about eight hours into the search the. sun comes up. and a submarine was spotted from a.

nearby lighthouse in crew Bay this is. like the South area of Copenhagen and. the submarine was there it's just. floating like bobbing around in the. water and there's a man standing in the. tower above the water like the Tower of. the submarine and he's able to make. radio contact with the Navy and he told. him hey everything's fine everyone on. the boat is fine we're all good we're. just having some technical issues and. that's why we went missing. the Navy is like okay thank God but like. wow this guy is really something but. once they get word that he's safe and.

he's being picked up by a fisherman most. of the naval commanders were told to go. report on a new task like don't be. wasting your energy on this we've got. bigger things going on so a lot of them. are packing their bags and they start. getting bombarded with people radioing. in and calling them. the sub is sinking the sub is sinking. the sub is sinking. okay like just two seconds ago quite. literally two seconds ago it was. floating it was fine nothing was wrong. there was no urgency in Peter's voice he. wasn't saying hey the sub is thinking. you need to come rescue me I'm in the.

tower like I'm gonna jump into the water. soon nothing what just happened in this. man of like one to two minutes the sub. indeed was sinking Madsen jumped into. the water he was rescued by fishermen. brought to the harbor and there were. journalists media waiting for him there. because this story had been a new. emerging hot current event news and. they're all asking like are you okay. Peter are you okay and he's giving them. the thumbs up but the Navy is watching. and they're like. something's all right. something is not right about this they.

said submarines do not sink like that. what like maybe if you're in the water. but now when you're not submerged. submarines just don't he could have. saved his sub. the way his sub sank it was very slow it. was very weird there was no accident. there was no impact there was nothing. does that even mean like they're saying. we know Subs if there's been a submarine. that's been going successfully and being.

submerged it doesn't just randomly sink. on you especially when you're not. submerged when half of it is above water. got it it's just really bizarre maybe if. it's the first time you're testing this. sub or if the sub had made impact with. something or if there was a even with an. engine failure it probably wouldn't sink. so they're like why did it sink it's. just really weird I mean he would have. tried to save his sub right this guy is. known for a submarine his love for the. Nautilus I mean come on. and someone is still missing because Kim.

Vol would not make it out of that. Submarine by the time that it sank. so where is the journalist. other Navy officers also raised their. eyebrows they said the way that the sub. looked like it was sinking it just. looked like it was diving so the way. that okay if a submarine was to sink. from above water it looks very different. from a submarine that's going on a. mission and being submerged it looks. like it was just going on a mission it. looks like someone had autopiloted to be. submerged and then was like oh my God.

it's sinking and jumped got it it wasn't. like tilting to one side it wasn't there. was none of that it's just like okay. this is really bizarre it looks like. it's working fine. now the first thing that you would do if. you were a sub owner and this is your. baby your pride and joy I mean what. you're known for what would you do. before you jump off that sub into the. water if it's sinking. save it I don't know you close the hatch. oh yeah yeah because you don't want it.

to fill with water yeah yeah so the. hatch is like in the tower that you go. down it's like this giant steel plate. you close it and no water can leak in. because it's a submersible right so you. close the hatch. he doesn't close the hatch. and this guy has created three. submarines it's he didn't just buy him. he built them we hardly know they saw it. yeah it's a bunch of people around. there's a lighthouse nearby like they. saw it yeah where's the other girl yeah. oh yeah so uh we're gonna get to that so.

Matt said this inventor maker quote. genius left the hatch open letting water. flow into the submarine the Navy. commanders took one look at that and. they believed that he sunk it. intentionally. they said you only leave the hatch open. when you want to cover something up. but more importantly where is Kim fall. and why is Peter Madsen not frantically. talking about her or looking for her so. they walked over to the cops that were. at the harbor and the Navy Commander. said listen we're from the Navy we can't.

really arrest people and in my opinion. there's something wrong here like you. need to get to the bottom of it I think. you need to arrest this guy. they said that you have a situation. where a submarine sinks two people were. missing and only one comes out this is. not right. when he was first asked about where. Kimball was he said oh she's fine I. dropped her off the night before at. around 10 30 PM close to the harbor. where she lived he even um listed the. specific Harbor that he dropped her off. they asked him well how do you know Kim. he stated oh I don't really know much.

about her other than that she was a. journalist for Wired doing a piece on me. and it's not like I do background checks. when a journalist calls and says can I. interview you. and it looked like he just really wanted. to go home but the police they had other. plans the whole thing is not adding up. if you dropped Kim off why would she not. be home and what a coincidence that you. guys were out together both go missing. but it was not together. everything felt very off and while the. cops are escorting mats into the car to. arrest him there are reporters just.

hurling questions at him and the way he. responds also makes people just kind of. perk up in their chairs they're chasing. him and they're asking him what happened. what happened and he said I'm fine I'm a. little sad a little sad seeing the. Nautilus go down was extreme. he told reporters that the Nautilus had. sunk how. valve failure ballast failure. his biographer. Thomas the one that he worked closely. with he saw this on TV. and it was just like.

something was itching at him. even in the event of failure Peter is. known to be poetic. it's all about image for Peter. he would have said that this is what the. biographer who worked so closely with. him said he would have said something. along the lines of this was the crown. jewel of my work and now it's at the. bottom of the sea but this is the way it. is this is how you learn grow and. experience the glory of such things but.

instead he looks like it's on valve. failure he looks kind of. like he doesn't want to communicate the. whole demeanor just it just wasn't right. and Peter Madsen is used to failure. because when you're creating rockets and. submarines you're gonna fail you know. and every single time he's always been. poetic. he was also asked about Kim and he. stated there was no one on board but me. no one else on board no one. so he was taken to the police station. and questioned and get this when he's.

talking about his sub-syncing he would. go off on these overly technical. tangents that the police clearly could. not debunk or couldn't even question him. on because they don't know anything. about Subs they don't know the jargon. but when it came to Kim he had very. little to say even the way he just. dropped her off it was very Curt the way. that he described it is very short and. the investigator stated. in terms of shock either someone. remembers everything or they remembered. nothing. that's how shock works but Peter. remembered everything about the. submarine sinking and remembered nothing.

about Kim. it is inconsistent. nobody saw it then though but in the. footage of him being asked all of these. questions in the footage of him coming. to the dock after the sub-sync. the truth is right there. because there on the left side of his. nose. is a little bit of Kim's blood. meanwhile the media was told that Madsen. reported to dropping Kim off earlier. that night and so everyone believes that. she had gotten off the submarine and. something bad happened to her that's how.

much everyone just generally thought. that Madsen was a good character but. even that didn't make the most. statistical sense because in places like. Denmark it is very very rare to get. murdered or kidnapped and Copenhagen is. actually considered one of the safest. cities in the entire world now nobody is. saying that bad things cannot happen to. you in places like this but what are the. odds that something happens to her in. Copenhagen and then his sub syncs right. after and it's just what are the odds. when Kim's friends and fellow.

journalists heard the news of her. disappearance they were shocked but. their journalist brains went into. overdrive none of it made sense there. weren't enough facts and the facts. weren't adding up there wasn't enough. details about her disappearance and they. said what do you mean she's missing. she's been to North Korea I mean she's. been to some shady Shady places for her. to go missing interviewing this guy. is a bit weird. the police started to follow the lead. Madsen gave and they went to the harbor. that he stated that he dropped Kim off. right and they're trying to figure out. was Kim seen meeting someone else was. she picked up by someone which direction.

does she walk off to thankfully there. was a bar nearby that had extensive CCTV. range of the harbor and they combed. through the footage nobody nobody that. looked like Kim had gotten to the harbor. that night. on top of that there were no. eyewitnesses of Kim that night which is. huge she was all over the news in. Denmark at this point I mean this was. like the biggest story of that time I. mean surely someone would have come. forward if they saw her. the search for Kim continues but instead. of looking near the harbor now the.

authorities. kind of start searching in the waters. their concern was what if Kim is still. in the sub there could be an air pocket. and she could still be alive and we have. to get her the Navy sent divers down and. much of the sub was flooded with water. since the Hajj was left open by Madsen. deliberately and they start going to all. the windows peering in. there were no survivors that they could. see additionally it did not seem. feasible or safe for them to go inside.

so just to make the timeline more clear. August 10th that night August 10th like. 7 30. they get onto the sub. that morning August 11th Madsen is found. in the submarine sinks not a single. trace of Kim the very next day August. 12th Madsen is arrested and he appears. in court and this is like a like a. preliminary hearing he's not even. technically really charged his story. wasn't adding up they were just pretty. pretty big holes in his story so it. didn't make sense August 13th the.

authorities start lifting the submarine. out of the water their plan was to get. one of those giant giant almost like. cargo ships like Navy ships lift the sub. up with these giant cranes that are on. the ship and hope that it won't snap in. half bring it to the harbor where they. would drain the water I think like 9 000. gallons of water and start searching the. inside that was the first real evidence. that their suspicions were not unfounded. Kim was not in the submarine but. everything was a mess authorities.

reported finding what looked like pieces. of Flesh in the boat in the sub and. there were still some water that didn't. fully drain and it had come up to their. blue suits they touched it and when they. got out one of the naval commanders they. just had this weird feeling. and they sniffed it. it smelled very strongly of blood and. yes it's a steel submarine and some. people think that blood has a metallic. scent which it does but the naval. Commander is saying no when you're. talking about blood in water that's been.

kind of diluted in water it's a very. specific specific smell. and we know that smell they also found. her jacket still in the submarine which. why would anyone leave that if she had. been brought ashore to any Harbor right. not that one because clearly there's no. footage over there but any Harbor she. would have taken her things with her she. is not a Careless Woman why would she. leave her jacket she had like tickets. train tickets in the jacket still that. she needed to be used why would you do. that. but it still doesn't get authorities. closer to finding Kim and right now the. whole world seemed to be talking about.

this incident like they were the Titan. was this a rescue mission or is it going. to be a recovery Mission what's going on. Kim's parents came out to state that. they were heartbroken over what was. going on and they said in a quote Kim. has worked in many dangerous places as. her work as a journalist and there have. been many times we were worried about. her that something could have happened. in Copenhagen just a stone's throw away. from her childhood home is something we. could have never imagined. over 10 days later everyone's worst. fears were confirmed.

there was a flurry of police activity. near the shore. which is not normal in Copenhagen. media civilians everyone waited for a. press conference and everyone's thinking. the same thing but they didn't want to. say it out loud. they believed that they found her body. but it was so much worse. they found a woman's torso without her. legs without her arms and without her. head. just a torso. it was clearly from manual dismemberment.

from another human and not ocean life. authorities stated they do need to do. DNA testing but this is not really. common in Copenhagen so people thought. what are the odds it's not her. the results would show that it was in. fact Kim Val's torso. and this changed everything including. Peter matson's story Peter Matson said. you know what you're right I didn't drop. Kim off I was too nervous to tell you. guys the truth from the get-go according.

to his new story he was opening up the. hatch on the sub which you would imagine. is very very heavy because you can't let. any of that water come in when you're. completely submerged it's like this. giant giant bolted steel plate and then. you gotta push it open so that you can. get out once you're above water you had. to hold it up so that they could get. through the hatch and get out but he. lost his grip and he said this giant. steel hatch Came Crashing Down on Kim as. she was trying to leave the the tower so. it hit her in the head knocked her out. she fell down and she was dead wait this.

is when they're trying to leave. yeah not okay yeah what so he said he. knew it he was so panicked he felt awful. just horrible and as someone who has. been at sea for a while he stated he. didn't know what else to do but give her. a funeral at sea. so he threw her body overboard. his story conveniently leaves out the. part that she was dismembered and the. fact that her torso showed evidence of. torture. there were markings on her torso that.

looked like. inflicted wounds yeah torture wounds as. many as well as many stab wounds on her. private areas were also found. so the authorities did not believe him. and it was scary that a killer could. just stare them in the eyes and lie like. that I mean to think that they would. just believe it and send him home like. they had no idea what kind of monster. they were working with. so they were determined to prove it in. order to build a case against him they. would have to explain how Kim died. otherwise a court would have a very hard. time convicting him of murder and the.

best way to prove it is to find Kim's. body. finding her head would be crucial in. closure for families but also for. justice if investigators could prove. that she had no fractures or blunt force. trauma to the Head her his entire story. would be debunked. but finding parts of her body in crew. Bay nearly impossible they said it's the. equivalent of do you know how big a. football field is right think about 10. football fields someone flies over in a. helicopter and drops a quarter go look. for that quarter.

yeah that's how hard it was and every. day was even harder because the body. parts would move because of the water. current so they had to bring in an. oceanographer who was at his whole life. all he did was study how things move in. water he would have to map out okay. today we have to search this area. because if there was anything dropped at. this area it would have moved to this. area but then if it was dropped at this. area it would move to this. it was so complicated and on top of that. let me explain if you were in this giant. room not this this room is not giant but. like if you were in a giant room you.

could see 10 feet ahead 20 feet ahead if. there's nothing blocking your field of. vision you could probably see the end of. a stadium or a giant Ballroom in the. water you see like a book's length away. or at least this water. that's all you see the rest is murky. so you can't just go in there and scan. an area with your eyes and then be like. okay like I scanned 100 feet it's huge. it's looking for a tiny tiny piece in a. giant ocean. October 6th 56 days of search 50 divers.

a day there are about 3 500 dive times. recorded 200 Acres of area covered with. a calculation of water movement in the. end the police found Kim's legs. and her severed head. no way. yeah and it showed that she had no. traces of blunt force trauma or. fractures. Peter's Second Story. was a lie. and it was clear with the evidence of. the stab wounds the prosecutors believed. he took him down into the sub trapped.

her in there isolated her from the world. basically buried her. with her own killer. and sadistically tortured her killed her. and dismembered her. all because she was a woman doing her. job and before you say well it could. happen to a man but it didn't Peter did. not ask any men to come into the sub. alone. but he did that week ask many women it. seems like he just wanted to kill any. woman that week the first woman that.

would be alone in the sub with him was. the one that he was going to kill he. asked multiple friends multiple. acquaintances do you want to go into the. sub some of these friends asked oh yeah. great sure can I bring my kids and he. said no. and that friend said that was really. weird because Peter usually is known for. wanting a ton of people around him he. loved big big gatherings especially the. sub like he loved taking people down. into the sub so for him to refuse it. just felt it felt really off. so she said maybe not like I gotta watch.

the kids so I can't go. now the police searched through Peter's. phone in his computer which side no. Peter really did not want to give them. access to his computer he kept screaming. that he had traded business secrets on. there that the police were trying to. steal it was a huge ordeal but they had. a forensic expert try and get all the. data from his devices and the day that. he got on the submarine with Kim he was. Googling girl beheading and the word. agony it was premeditated he did it. rationally intentionally to fulfill some. vile sexual fantasy that he had his. computer revealed a plethora of evidence.

I mean just film upon film of videos of. women being beheaded burned alive killed. tortured these are illegal by the way. some clips of these videos were played. for the courts and it was really really. bad he was watching these videos 24. hours before he went out into that sub. with Kim he was watching it like that. morning whether he was watching for. satisfaction or to prepare himself or. for both it's unclear but it is really. bad. and if you guys don't know what a snuff. film is it's super illegal they.

basically depict real life murder or. torture in a video like it's not like. Hollywood where things are cgi'd it's. real and typically the victims are women. now he tries to convince everyone that. his interns used his work computer at. work and they're the ones watching this. yeah he's trying to bring like everyone. down with him like all these young. people who had given so much of their. youth time and energy to help him with. his dreams he's gonna try and tear them. down. thankfully no one believed him but one. intern would later testify that the day. before the murder Peter was asking him.

hey do you want to see something cool I. found a website where you can look at um. unreleased. crime scene photos of victims. and the. the intern was very terrified but he. still didn't think that it was that. alarming he didn't think that Peter. would kill someone he just thought it. was very strange. side note authorities believe the. torture inflicted on Kim's body was done. um. around the time of death so either.

shortly before or shortly after they. cannot be certain but they stated it was. probably inflicted with a knife. sharpened screwdriver ties metal pipes. and a wood saw and the biggest question. people had was why would you need a wood. saw and a steel submarine. unless you are doing something else. there were 37 markings on Kim's body. indicating that he had made puncture. wounds. so now Peter has a news story because. her head has no evidence of trauma and. he's going to need one during trial. trial starts and he debuts his new.

little Alibi or new little story she did. not have blunt force trauma on the head. because she actually died of carbon. monoxide poisoning he stated that she. was down in the sub while he was trying. to get the hatch to work because the. hatch was stuck so he's trying to lift. it pry it open but since the engines. were still running somehow there was an. issue and carbon monoxide was getting. inside and Kim died within 10 minutes. the reason that he didn't tell this. truth quote from the beginning was. because it took her 10 minutes to die. and he didn't want Kim's family and.

friends to be in pain knowing that it. was not a quick death so he made up the. hatch story which was quick and sudden. which I don't know if that makes any. sense in fact I think blunt force trauma. to the head is much more shocking of a. thing to hear not because I believe his. current story but it just makes no sense. the prosecutors straight up told him. then well why did you straight up ask. him then well why did you cut her up. yeah. he just stated very eerily I had a big. problem what do you do with a big. problem you cut it into small pieces he.

also stated he didn't see how it matters. that he dismembered her body because she. was already dead. wow so with all of this coming out he's. still sticking with his story that it. was carbon monoxide Peter's biographer. and those who used to be close to him. said that Peter overestimates himself he. believes that he can convince people I. mean he did it with submarines he did it. with rockets and now he thinks that he. can do it with murder. that makes sense yeah yeah prosecutors. heatedly told Peter like point blank in. trial I don't believe you.

I don't believe you. I guess that made Peter think about. shifting gears in the trial he starts. trying to strike the hearts of his. audience he kept talking about his cats. and how much he loved his cats and how. he needed to go home to his cats his. cats depended on him and everyone was. like what does this have to do with the. case it was so strange it felt like he. genuinely believed that his wants and. his needs and his cats were more. important than a person's life a. person's life that he took. like this guy is a full-blown narcissist. and it was starting to come out in court. in fact his psychiatric evaluation was.

revealed in court and it read severe. lack of empathy remorse and sense of. guilt relishes in watching violent. videos the psychiatrist also jotted down. personally deviant narcissistic. unconcerned lacking remorse regarding. guilt a few other things come out in. court multiple women were called to. testify against Madison and they all. stated that he was very normal they did. not think that he had a proclivity to. violence or aggression in any way many. of them had met him at six parties like. BSM parties which I know the media like.

tried to run with it and they're like oh. my God yes them. that had nothing to do with it they were. all consenting adults at these parties. and on top of that these women said that. Peter never seemed aggressive he always. respected boundaries. he was a little weird he would text. women sometimes things like I'm just a. perverted Polly with a dream of. taboo-free places where all adults in. their right mind can teach each other to. do whatever they want. sick perhaps but there's no cure. the woman said otherwise he was very.

gentle that's what they said and I want. to iterate that these women are not. going into court questioning the. validity of what happened to Kim this is. them telling the courts how shocked they. were and how well this man hid his true. intentions these women were disgusted. they were not saying these things in. defense of Peter Madsen because at the. same time they were disgusting people. online basically victim blaming Kim. saying that it was weird for her to go. in the sub with someone she didn't know. forgetting that it's quite literally her. job male and female journalists have to. do this all the time and typically the.

risks are higher and they're higher for. female journalists so what do we do. should we start telling women to stop. being journalists or should we start. telling people to stop killing people. I think the answer is very clear other. horrible people judge the fact that she. wore a dress on the submarine they. judged her for not wearing long pants. they're like why what else would you. wear a dress to a sub. another net isn't commented the video of. her leaving in the sub gives me the. impression that she's going on a date.

rather than a journalist on a mission. so I think these women were trying to. show that every single woman out there. every single female reporter every. single reporter no matter their gender. every single person who vaguely knew. Peter. would have gladly gotten in that sub. that day. so this is how unassuming he is and that. is so much more terrifying. other women said while he never did. anything super alarming he did have this. weird energy about him it some people. said that he kind of viewed women as. playthings more than human beings.

they didn't really see a hatred for. women but. you know probably well hit in. these are just little things that they. would pick up here and there oh inside. note Peter is married he was married in. 2011 and he and his wife had an open. marriage once he was arrested his wife. divorced him and never spoke publicly. about this case ever again. another important message came out. during trial where he had jokingly um. texted one of his friends that worked. with him and one of the women that he. worked with jokingly texted him Peter. you gotta send me a little death threat.

or something so I can get my work done. faster like I need some pressure I'm. working so slowly. wait I don't I don't follow what's this. what does that mean she's like you need. to scare me into working more because. I'm like we're moving so slowly so like. send me a death threat because. technically Peter's her boss. so you know there were no before right. yeah well his message is again in the. context he's joking yes but it's eerily. similar to what it said that he did to. him. he said haha okay I will tie you up in.

the Nautilus and Pierce you with skewers. then my knife will come out and I will. look at your throat looking for the. artery I have a murder plan and it's. going to be great pleasure. April 25th of 2018 after 11 days the. court reached a verdict and Peter Madsen. was sentenced to life in prison. after serving 12 years in Denmark you. can apply for pardon average life. sentences. um in Denmark you typically serve 16. years. wow what yeah so it's hard to say if.

he'll ever get out but um. yeah it still doesn't explain why. after he was sentenced he had one final. change in his story where he does admit. to killing Kim. he doesn't explain how he did it he. doesn't go into detail on any of that he. just makes it about himself he did. multiple phone interviews while he was. in prison. and I'm gonna read a lot of the quotes. that he said and it's really chilling he.

said I didn't go around living a. Wonderful Life and suddenly bang I got. evil something made it happen this is My. Confession. what the [ __ ] happened. how can it be a mystery to you guys that. good comes in a package with bad there. aren't Heroes and bad guys they're just. humans and under the right circumstances. under the right kind of pressure under. the right mistreatment you can make. people do just about every horrific. thing to each other that you can think. of. okay look even now he's killed someone. and he's trying to be this this voice of.

teaching this voice of reason and. philosophy and the one that is poetic. about life and it's just really. agitating. he continues you're looking for an. explanation why did this happen Peter. said that he was so frustrated at his. Rockets not succeeding he felt like he. was no longer the sole center of. attention and he started it started to. really mess with him the way Peter says. it is that he was being used so remember. how he started copenhagen's orbitals. with a co-founder well the co-founder. allegedly came up to him and was like. hey you can help build the Rockets but. you can't be at the launches anymore I.

don't think that this happened but for. whatever reason there was drama and. Peter was kicked out of copenhagen's. orbitals he started his own rocket. company literally in the same lot. just like looking at Copenhagen some. orbitals every day he went into the. workshop and his own rocket company was. not going well and I think the problem. was you know when he started Copenhagen. some orbitals he's thinking I'm gonna. get the glory of the fame it's gonna be. about me me and my Rockets but to build. a rocket you have to bring in a lot of. knowledgeable people and these. knowledgeable people are not gonna just.

say yeah boss to everything you say. because you're building a freaking. rocket you need to do it right so a lot. of these people when he would say. something dumb they'd be like that's. dumb we cannot do that. physically we cannot do that and he. would get so irritated. people stated Peter could not cooperate. with people I mean could not he loved. drama he liked the feeling of. being the only one that had input he. hated being ignored if his input was. ignored he would get extremely. aggressive and angry and the more you.

ignore him the more incensed he would. get about creating drama and sometimes. he couldn't stand not being the smartest. guy in the room. and when you're building a rocket you're. not going to beat the smartest guy in. the room Peter's biographer said Peter. lives in a world where there are winners. and losers and at this point in his life. he was losing and he was losing big. so two weeks before the murder of Kim he. had a rocket launch that was prepared. for his new company and they had to. cancel it because they were it wasn't. doing well.

for him it wasn't his project was never. submarines Peter's project was never. Rockets or the love of making things. Peter's project was Peter Madsen. that was his project just being known. being this character being respected and. in control. so whatever he could do to get that it. wasn't actually the subs or the Rockets. so Peter will never talk about how much. he regrets the crime or what he actually. did he just talks about how stressed out. he was and how miserable he was and how.

he was pushed into killing someone. he also has this moment where he almost. feels bad for himself and he says if. somebody tells you that you're a. narcissistic psychopath the only way. that you can make the verdict correct is. to become that psychopath I know you. guys want your monster. I sense your hatred but it doesn't make. any difference there is no closure to be. found here. now this is crazy but October 20th of. 2020 after 30 months in prison Peter. escaped.

good job. [Music]. he managed to build a weapon in jail. threaten the guard to let him out and he. started making a run for it it was a. rather brief Escape that ended with him. sitting on the grass and Sharpshooters. surrounding him in Denmark so again this. is um it's a lot he just keeps proving. to be worse than imagined and of course. the question is lingering has he done.

this before an officer on the case said. this is his personal opinion not the. official police opinion he said what. happened it's very rare that you commit. a crime like that as your first violent. crime abusive or sexual crimes might. have come first just maybe not caught. it said that they had been looking into. connections between Madsen and any. unself-disappearances or unsolved. violent assaults against women so far. there are no concrete connections there. have also been talks that he's a serial. killer I mean that's in the air if he. was or not but many state that he would.

perfectly fit the profile even in the. Netflix doc there's footage of him. before the murder where he's trying to. make his own movie and he would get. angry at work and he would say things. like I would like to kill someone with a. spoon and I would choose the person by. chance. he then told the videographer that he. was going to hack her to death and she. gasped like you're gonna hack with an ax. like hack me to death and he said no hug. you heard hack I said hug. but that was um definitely an unsettling. moment in the dock.

I think the case just devastated a lot. of people around the world the world. lost another talented voice whose whole. life mission was just to help others but. it's also another Grim reminder that. women are not safe doing their jobs. Kim once said to a friend I only have. questions about agency as a woman and if. we will ever be free. no matter what we do. leaning towards no. most female journalists said that they. wouldn't have thought twice about going. in that sub that's just the job you have.

to do you're not going into the sub with. a known war criminal just a man who. built the sub. she's just doing her job and she ran. into a killer. and he truly is an evil person that felt. like he could just do something to. someone and he he's kind of like this he. thinks he's a main character villain he. wrote once nothing is sacred in hell no. morals no ethics only your own. disgusting selfish ego give into your. anger use the knife hell is permeated. with an evil that penetrates your head. he wrote you need to choose between.

Heaven and Hell and if you choose Hell A. Whole New World opens up. in his head he's like the Hades the God. of Hell in his mind but in reality he is. just a loser in jail now he will be. forgotten Kim Vol will forever be. remembered Kim's family and friends. created the Kimball memorial fund and. they help female journalists her mom. said Humanity needs more courageous. women like Kim women who have the. Endeavor to tell give their voices to.

the weak and make this planet a better. place to live. Kim we miss you. I'm going to link the fund in the. description. and that is the case of the missing. submarine what are your thoughts. leave it in the comments please be safe. and I will see you guys on Sunday for. the Minnesota where we will be back in. our rotten mango setting.