5yo Child Found DEAD In Ceiling Of Chinese Restaurant Run By Parents

[Music]. Bada bing, bada boom. There are only so. many places you can hide inside of a. restaurant, but the problem is almost. every single spot is relatively easy to. search. The bathroom requires someone. sticking their head under the stall. You're going to be caught. They're going. to peer. They're going to make sure. nobody is hiding and they're going to. see you. The stock rooms, the kitchen, same thing. You get one person poking. around, hideand-seek is over. There's. not that many hiding spots. which leaves. just that one door, the steel door. It's.

like the size of a small closet. Sometimes the room is it's like a small. room. And if you step inside and you. close that door behind you, you might as. well have taken a portal to a different. world because once that door clicks. shut, the gasping, the shivering, the. numbness, you can't feel your ears, you. can't feel your fingers. You're trying. to bang on the door to be let out, but. you're more clumsy. It's normal because. this is exactly what happens when you. are trapped inside of a giant freezer.

The idea of working with a freezer big. enough for you to walk into and then. being trapped inside of one has. seemingly become one of the top 15. slightly irrational fears of the. everyday person. I have yet to step foot. inside of a commercial walk-in freezer, but I do have random perhaps intrusive. thoughts about being trapped in one. So. much so that there are ask Reddit. threads asking people in the. hypothetical world, if you were to be. trapped inside of a commercial walk-in. freezer for the night, let's say at a.

restaurant, what do you do to survive? Nobody's coming until the morning. The. answers really don't do anything to make. you less paranoid. I would take the cold. boxes of food and create an ice shelter. type of structure. So, you want to. prevent the blowing air from cooling you. down to the point of hypothermia. That's. how you're gonna circulate your inner. warmth. Another professional Reddit. survivalist writes, "Many restaurants. have large plastic bags in or on those. wire racks. If that's the case, take two.

bags, wrap yourselves in them, utilize. your body temperature by breathing. inside the bag, but not enough to. suffocate yourself. Come out for air. every now and then. You'll last 8. hours." H one person comments, "I worked. at a fish and chip shop once. got loads. of pies and food and, you know, stuff. back there. I would just stuff them into. my clothes. I would put them in my. pants. I'd put them in my shirt. Yeah, they're frozen pies. It's going to feel. freezing for the first 10, 20 minutes. And then after that, it'll actually. somewhat insulate you. That's how it.

works. That is crazy how creative people. are. Yeah. I mean, probably the best. advice, the most simple advice comes. from one professional that works with. industrial freezers. He says, "Best. thing to do if you're trapped, find. something to stick into the fan blades. so they stop turning. It's going to. overheat the compressor outside. The. cooler is going to stop cooling. The. temperature alarm's going to sound and. then you'll get out." Obviously, this is. after you check to see if the emergency. exit method is not already working, which surprisingly a lot of people. report in the restaurants that they work.

at, it never functions well. Naturally, it is one of the very first places the. police officers check for the little. missing girl. What if she accidentally. walked into the freezer and somehow got. locked inside? They start going through. the bins, the grocery bags filled with. raw meat inside of the freezer. She is. not here. They check and they double. check and when they're done, they walk. out of that commercial freezer. I It's. clear she's not in the freezer. But that. is the thing. Even police have their.

blind spots when looking for 5-year-old. Ashley. They look everywhere. They look. on the shelves. They look under the. chair. They look in the bags. They look. inside that commercial walk-in freezer. But while they're in the freezer, did. they ever think to look up? This is the. case of Ashley Zho, the 5-year-old girl. that was found in the walls of a Chinese. restaurant. [Music].

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rottenmangopodcast.com. Now, first a disclaimer for today's. case. There are mentions of CA resulting. in death. So, please take time if that's. too much and I'll see you in the next. one. And secondly, this case is. incredibly multifaceted. Any mentions. and details included in this episode. should not be taken as fuel for like. some sick anti-immigration. xenophobic narrative or just hatred. against Chinese people or China. At the. same time, one's immigration status and. culture should not be used as a.

reasoning or as an excuse for their. crimes, especially when as serious as. murder. So, these are just the facts of. the case. And additionally, most of you. guys are sometimes I feel like you guys. are a little too smart for your own good. sometimes, but so this doesn't apply to. you, but the very small percentage of. people without working frontal loes. Please exercise a bit of common sense. and nuance. Don't use this video as. justification for avoiding small. businesses or Chinese restaurants and. avoiding mom and pop shops and allegedly. finding an acrylic nail allegedly in a.

crumble cookie. That's a valid reason to. question the hygienics of a restaurant. Seeing that a restaurant is owned by a. particular ethnicity or serves a. particular cuisine is not a valid reason. to question the hygienics, which is a. thing I'm seeing all over Reddit. Lastly, any comments, opinions, criticisms are from nizens that we found. online during our research and not a. reflection of our personal thoughts on. this case. So, with that being said, let's get started. The top four most. dangerous jobs in the United States. Can. you guess them? Probably like a lumber. jack or something. Yeah, logging.

workers. Log workers. So, logging. workers is the most dangerous. Then. pilots and flight engineers, oil, gas, and mining. And then number four are. roofers. And there's two roofers. standing up on the roof on top of this. pet store. It's 15 ft tall, so it's it's. not like the most dangerous roof that. they've been on, but they're being. cautious. They get up there 10:00 a.m. They're trying to beat the afternoon. sun. One of the guys, he gets close to. the edge of the roof. He's just staring. into the parking lot. He's like zoning. out while he's waiting for his partner.

to get done with the his part. and he. sees this SUV pull up and he says, "You. know, nothing was out of the ordinary. I. wasn't expecting anything, so it just. seemed like a normal day." He watches. the man get out of the driver's seat. A. woman gets out the passenger seat. They. don't talk. The two of them go to open. the back door where they pull out a. young little girl, maybe what, 5, 6. years old. They take her out of the car. seat, cover her face with her purple. winter coat cuz it's freezing outside. And they walk away from their car. It's. a pretty anticlimactic experience. I.

mean, he almost forgot the entire thing. until the police start questioning him. because by the time that he saw the. three of them, the man, the woman, and. the little girl, one of them was already. dead. What? A man calls 911. He sounds. like he's trying to keep his composure. It's working. He sounds relatively calm. Hey, what's going on? That's literally. what the 911 operator says. Hey, what's. going on? I I can't find my daughter. Hey, how old does she uh five? She just.

turned 5. When's the last time you seen. her? Uh. this afternoon, probably. Around what time? Uh 3, maybe 4. 5 hours. So, he's calling around 900. p.m. and saying he hasn't seen his. daughter since 5:00 p.m. This is a. 5-year-old little girl, so it's not even. like I haven't seen my 13-year-old. daughter who went to her friend's house. What was she wearing? Uh, she's wearing. a purple winter coat. Uh,

I don't know what those things are. called, but they're not jeans. They're. like um like leggings. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What color were they? Uh, grayish. Okay. And you haven't seen her in 5. hours about. Yeah. I I mean, she was. there sleeping. I mean, you know. Where. was she sleeping at? In the restaurant. The man is explaining that he and his. wife own this restaurant, which they. have this little mattress in the back, a. tiny little mattress where sometimes one. of their two daughters. So, they have a. six-year-old daughter and a 5-year-old. daughter, and the 5-year-old is missing. And sometimes they just sleep in the.

back while their parents are working, and now she's gone. I mean, I She was. sleeping there. I picked up my older. daughter from school. We all saw her. sleeping there, and we went to work and. we let her sleep, and we got busy, and. then after I got busy, we started. cleaning up and then we opened the door. and she's not there. Do you have any. security videos or anything in there? No. No. No, we don't have any security. cameras in the restaurant. We've been. here for 6 years. Never had security. cameras, but we all saw her. All of us. Like my wife, myself, my older daughter. When we came back, when I picked up my.

older daughter from school, we all saw. her sleeping there. Okay. Were there any. suspicious people that came into the. restaurant at all? Do you think that she. could have walked out? Could she have. run away? I have no idea. I mean, she. was sleeping in the back. It's kind of. hard to say. None of your employees had. seen her. There's only two of us in the. restaurant. Just myself and my wife. There's nobody else in the restaurant. There's only three people in the. restaurant right now. Okay. When you. guys left, who was there with you? Who. was there with your daughter when you. guys left to go get your other kid from. school? My wife. I got my other kid from.

school. So, I picked up my eldest kid. from school. My wife was at the. restaurant with the youngest kid. But. when we came back, she's here. The. little girl is here. My wife is here. The restaurant is open. The restaurant's. always open. I usually open up I drop my. daughter off at school in the morning. and then we come here to open up the. restaurant and then I go pick her up. Okay. Right now though, when you left, you said your wife and your daughter. left to go pick up your daughter from. school. No, I I didn't say that. I said. that my wife is here all the time. Did. you hear the the whole thing? Yes. Was.

he contradicting himself or I would say. that I think she was having a hard time. understanding. Um, I don't think that he. was blatantly contradicting or anything. was particularly alarming about the 911. call. I think the only thing that I. would take away from the call that was. like a little is that he seems a little. calm. However, that could be seen as a. positive trait of a father trying to get. a goal done, a mission done. M. When we. picked I'm sorry. When I meant was. myself. Okay. When I went to pick up my.

daughter. When we came back, my myself. and my daughter, not my wife. My wife. was here the whole time. So, your wife. hasn't seen her since around the 400 or. 5:00 either. Uh, I guess he explains. they saw her around 4 or 5. Everyone, the six-year-old saw her, the wife saw. her, the husband saw her, everybody saw. her sleeping, and then the dinner rush. came. They were fixing up the dinner. rush afterwards. They went to check on. her and she's gone and it's been 5. hours. Maybe she managed to walk out the. back door. And if that's the case, she.

maybe has a few more hours left. Because. if she's been out there for at least a. few hours and it's 6° outside, she doesn't have a lot of time. 6° F. Yes. If the walk-in freezer is the worst. case scenario, at least on first glance. This is the second worst case scenario. Ashley, 5-year-old Ashley, being lost. outside in the cold. A lot of health. inspectors do not like to eat out at. restaurants. It's just not a fun time. for them. You want to eat dinner with a.

health inspector? You're probably going. to go to their house. It's. understandable. Maybe it's safer to cook. at home when a ton of restaurants. they're inspecting are clearly doing. what they call fire drills. You think. the health inspector doesn't know what's. going on? They know. Manager, owner, eyes get huge. They start ordering. employees to do all sorts of tasks. you. over there. You over there. They're like. managing a drill to cover up all sorts. of potential violations, which usually. results in creating more violations on. the spot. Or some of them try the. distraction method, divide and conquer.

They send people to bombard the. inspector to get all their attention so. they can't actually focus on the. restaurant. And the inspector is. thinking that's not working. Sometimes I. heard they will have like a they will. form a click with all the restaurants. nearby. Yes. So usually when comes to. one of them they will alarm the others. Yes. Like there are so many ways around. it. I think the health inspectors are. the citizens's number one friend and the.

restaurant's number one enemy sometimes. And one of them just goes by this rule. one health inspector. He said go to the. bathroom before you order. Go to the. bathroom. Usually in most restaurants, the bathroom and the kitchen are in very. similar conditions. One health inspector writes online, "At. one busy restaurant, there was a bucket. under the prep bench, and I thought, what's that bucket?" I walked up to it. The chefs were peeing inside the bucket. instead of going to the bathroom. Another says, "I do remember a steak.

being returned once, flipped it over. There was a crispy fried cockroach. cooked into one side of it." One nisonen. writes online, "My mom was inspecting a. doughnut shop in California and saw. someone changing a diaper on the dough. prep table." Their excuse was, "What? We're not open yet?". People say, "I've seen soup being. prepared in 5gallon Home Depot buckets. on the floor. I've seen soup being. prepared without utensils, just using a.

bare arm to stir the soup." Someone. said, "I discovered as a health. inspector, one of the local restaurants. had been washing dishes in the lake. behind the restaurant." Another said, "I'm not a health inspector, but I. worked at a major fast food chain. I had. a co-orker that would lick her index. finger every time she peeled a slice of. cheese from the stack of cheese to make. cheeseburgers. It was as if she was. trying to separate a sheet of paper from. a stack of papers. I would watch her do. this all day long. I never said anything. to the health department, but I sure as.

hell never ate the cheeseburgers. Another person writes, "I worked at. another major national food chain, fast. food chain. When the health inspector. came, the cooks took all the expired. food out of the fridge, stored it in. their cars by the dumpster until after. the health inspector left, and then we. put it all back." One health inspector. said, "We kept getting reports of a. vanilla ice cream machine with black. specks in it. Worried it would be. grinding metal, like a little lock. metal. That could be a health hazard.".

The barrel for the ice cream machine was. infested with cockroaches just being. ground up and expelled as additional. protein. One person writes, "You think. that's bad?" I saw a floor painted with. non-slip paint and they literally. painted over a dead rat and sealed it. there. Considering how bad health. inspections can go, Ang's Chinese. cuisine in Ohio is actually not that. bad. Angs is a Chinese carry out. restaurant, so you don't really go there.

to sit and dine in. It's you go there, you order food, you get your dank. Chinese food, and then you leave. You. pick up, you do to go orders, you have. some tables lined up with some menus and. like the soy sauce containers with the. chili oil containers, but most of the. time you see a row of people standing on. their phones waiting for their takeout. Most of Ang's Chinese cuisine violations. include chicken thawing on a rack at. room temp. Food should be thawed under. refrigerator or running water. Chicken.

that has been cooked is cooling at room. temp. Food should be cooled by placing. in shallow pans and place in the walk-in. cooler. And then lastly, chicken has. been repackaged into disposable grocery. bags. Food that is repackaged must be. repackaged into food grade packaging. These are comments from the uh. inspectors. Yes. Now, regardless, once. these problems are fixed, they pass all. their health inspections. There's really. nothing notable in any of their health. inspections except one that is taken by. inspector Christina, but none of the. customers really care for it. January.

4th, 2017. She says, "While conducting. my inspection, I noticed a little girl. hunched down in a small toddler chair in. the dry storage room. It caught me off. guard because of her presence and. demeanor. I only thought the owner and. his wife were there." I asked the little. girl how old she was, and I got no. answer. And I stared at her, and I said, "Are you three?" She responded back, "Five." The girl remained in the same. spot during the whole time. I was inside.

the facility approximately 90 minutes. I. asked the male owner if she went to. preschool or kindergarten, and he. reported she went to kindergarten. But I. don't know. There was a blue table in. the facility by the hallway of the. kitchen, had coloring books, crayons, a. baby doll, another toy. It was just so. strange, though. I don't know. It was so. odd. The little girl was so quiet, and. she would only stare at the floor. I. thought she was in trouble for. something, but I'm not sure. I just. thought it was so strange the entire. time I was there. I didn't even know she.

was there, too. It was like she's like a. little ghost. Is this an interview or is it This is a. written formal statement, an interview. with the officer. I see. A few weeks. later, that little girl, 5-year-old. Ashley, goes missing. Ang's Chinese. cuisine restaurant technically has four. employees. You've got Leang Dao. So, Leang, the dad. You got Mingming, the. mom. Jojo is the six-year-old daughter.

This is a nickname. This is not her real. name, but they refer to her as Jojo, but. it's not her government name. And then. Ashley is the 5-year-old daughter. So, there are the four employees of the. restaurant. Nobody else works there. It's just the four of them and a 300. item menu. And every single person that. walks into the restaurant to order, the. approximately 5 to eight minutes that. they wait for their food, they will all. have very different feelings about this. family. A former delivery driver does. mention that Mingming and Leang seemed. like good people. However, I always.

thought Leang wanted a son. He would. say, "I want a son." But he didn't have. one, and I think it bothered him. Do. with that what you will. Others think. it's just a little bit much to run the. entire restaurant with the two of them. I mean, they do the cooking, they do the. front of the house, everything. I. imagine the hours are pretty insane. One. fellow parent at the local elementary. school says, "My daughter was friends. with their oldest daughter, Jojo. If. they wanted playdates, I would have to. bring my daughter to the restaurant.". But the family unit as a whole is pretty.

wholesome. I don't think I ever caught. them at a bad moment. This is a direct. quote from neighbors. Like, these are. direct direct quotes from people that. knew the family. They're always very. polite, a little reserved. The family. seems very private, but the two girls, by all accounts, seem like daddy's. girls. But now Ashley is gone, and the. only lead the police have is maybe she. went outside. The doors to the back lead. to the back parking lot of the plaza. Once you pass that, it's a pretty dense. wooded area. It's like one of those.

suburban areas in Ohio where you drive. and it's tree tree tree plaza tree tree. plaza. Those are the trees. She's five. I mean, she could have been anywhere. She could have been taken. We don't. know. I mean, has anybody been acting. strange recently? Leang, the dad, says. there were two guys that came into the. restaurant on two separate occasions, a. a few months apart, but twice. I. remember because they were asking some. weird questions. We thought like they. were trying to see which restaurant to.

target for a robbery. They were asking. like, "When are your busiest times? How. long do you stay busy? What time do you. close?" But I didn't think anything of. it after the second time because it just. seemed kind of dumb that they would also. ask all of that. And probably they. realized that there's not much to rob. here. So they moved on. But maybe Leang. is wrong. Maybe they didn't come for the. robbery. Maybe they were looking for. something else. Because behind the. restaurant in the woods, the police find. their very first piece of evidence. And. it's not looking good. A pair of black.

shoes too big to be Ashley's. Adult. shoes, like men's sneakers. Over 100 officers are searching the. dense woods behind the restaurants all. night. Civilians are coming out in giant. puffer jackets and winter coats to help. search. One woman in the car is being. interviewed as she's going to search. I. just pray that if somebody took her that. they would have the heart to bring her. home because I'm sure these parents are. in such distress. She was the sweetest. little thing. I just loved her so much.

Every time I would go in to get pick up. food from them, she was always behind. the counter and she would talk to me. So. that night there is a gathering in the. plaza of the restaurant with all the. locals. People are praying. They're. comforting each other. They're praying. that Ashley makes it back home. And. there's at least one person there. praying that Ashley will never be found. Do you know how to tell when someone is. lying? I mean, there's so many videos on. YouTube of FBI profilers telling you how. to spot a liar. There's probably more. than four videos on this topic at the. very least. But the only way to really.

tell if someone is lying is to establish. a baseline. Figure their unique. non-verbal communication habits first. and then see if they change when they're. being deceptive. But if you don't have. the time for that, look for micro. expressions. That's what they say. Tell. someone good news about your life and. watch for a brief flash of a smirk or a. grimace before they smile and. congratulate you. And if you catch it, even for like a split second, just know. that maybe they're not the most happy. for you. Or sometimes it's below the.

table signs, which actually works. There. was a Kdrama clip that went viral. recently, but there is a reason that it. went viral because humans have a very. distinct way of communicating. The clip. is of a guy and a girl meeting up at a. coffee shop. The girl starts crying. The. guy gets up to get her tissues, feeling. bad for her. But as he's walking back to. the table, her back is turned to him. She's still sitting at the table crying. He stops because just from looking at. her back, he can tell her body language.

And she's lying. She's not actually. crying. Can you guess what that body. language is? Like chest up, like shoulder straight. No, she's. hunched over crying, but she Oh, she's. shaking her leg. No. No. Yes. Her foot. is moving up and down. She's rocking one. foot. Her legs are crossed and she's. rocking one foot. Yeah. Which typically.

doesn't happen when you're crying and. distraught. It's very inconsistent. So clearly when. adults lie, there are inconsistencies, but is it possible for a kid to lie? I. mean, one could argue it's nearly. impossible for kids to lie. I actually. hate that thing where it's like all kids. lie. I get it. Kids go through a phase. where they test boundaries and they. learn how to communicate. But I think. it's nearly impossible for kids to lie. because most of the time adults will be. able to spot it. They're not the most. advanced at hiding their deception. One.

of the detectives on site searching for. Ashley spots her older sister, Jojo, sitting off to the side. He decides with. consent to ask Jojo again exactly what. is it that she saw in that restaurant. Jojo glances around. She makes sure that. nobody's ease dropping and she whispers, "Mommy and daddy said I can't say what. happened.". What? What? I don't really know. I'm not. sure. Mommy and daddy said I can't say. what happened. Suddenly, the detective is staring at.

Mingming and Leang from across the. restaurant, and it's not adding up. Leang is fidgeting with his hands, talking to other officers, but he almost. looks nervous more than anything, which. fine, maybe he is nervous. He's nervous. to find his daughter. But Mingming, her. reaction right now, this entire time has. been cold. The officer walks up to. Leang, the dad. Do you have a recent. photo of Ashley? I do not. You don't. have social media. You don't post them.

Do you have a physical album somewhere? No. The only picture I have of her is. her passport photo, huh? Some people swear by the idea that the. only way to lie on a polygraph test and. not get caught is to clench your butt. cheeks or put a thumb tack in your shoe. And every time that you answer a. question truthfully, you step your toe. onto the thumbtack and you or you clench. your butt muscles and you release them. slowly to throw off the questions. reading. Others say no, you just have to.

lie. Like you have to think when they. ask you normal questions. So they do a. baseline first. Control questions is. what they call them. They ask you for. your government name, your birthday, who. the president is. This is your baseline. This is when you're normal, when you're. not stressed out. This is how you're. going to be. They said when they ask. those questions, start biting the inside. of your mouth. Throw off the baseline. because that's what they're going to. compare the lies to. Other netizens say, listen, I've lied on many aps. It's just.

90% breath control. Just sit in the. chair and keep a steady breath. Every. once in a while during a control. question, interrupt your normal. breathing rhythm and breathe faster and. then go back to normal. Be very calm. They will ask you the same questions. over and over. You will be bored. You. will be frustrated. This is a game of. patience with some even saying that the. best way to beat a polygraph is during. the control questions where they ask you. for your name start counting backwards. from 100 by intervals of seven. So like. 93 and then from there and there because.

that makes your I guess it does. something physiologically to you or. recall emotionally charged memories. during childhood to trigger. physiological responses that are going. to throw people off. It's actually. pretty terrifying how a lot of polygraph. administrators cannot tell when someone. is using a deceptive technique. It's. really hard to detect, but that means it. could go the other way, too. You can. completely tell the truth, and it will. look like you're lying. Leang, the dad, is the first to go. He's welcomed into. the interrogation room. He's wearing a. black hoodie, dressed comfortably. But.

first, the control answers. Do you have. any idea what the reason is for this. test? To see if I hurt my daughter? Did. you hurt Ashley? Answer truthfully by. saying the word yes or no. Oh, he's. going through a lie detector test. No. If I were to ask you right now, you. physically have anything to do with. Ashley's disappearance, what would the. truthful answer be? No. Have you ever. had any psychological counseling? Yes. When was the last time? About a month. ago. What was going on? What were you.

having a hard time with? My wife's. immigration case. Oh. Oh, yeah. What is. going on with that? Is she going to be. deported or something? So, Mingming is. trying to get asylum in the United. States, but it's not working. I don't. know. Maybe. But you're an American. citizen. Yes. And your wife can. eventually become a US citizen. My mom. did the process as well. It's harder. than it looks. So, what are you feeling? What were some of the things emotionally. that you're feeling? That my wife might.

get deported. Okay. I don't know what to. do with my kids. So, you were worried. about what might happen that she can't. take them with her? I don't know. Even. if she did, I would still have to. support them. On Tuesdays, that's the. only day the restaurant closes. What do. you do on your day off? I pretty much do. stuff for the restaurant. So, you don't. have any hobbies or things you like to. do? I like to draw, play some games. He's very calm. What is your greatest.

ambition in life? Wait, how old are you? 34. Honestly, I told my wife I gave up. on the personal stuff. I just want to. raise the kids. I just want to make sure. that they have a good future. Do you. plan to have more children than two? Yeah, I wanted four, but it can be. tough. What's the single best thing that. it's ever happened to your life so far? My kids. What's the single worst thing. that's ever happened to your life since. the day you were born? Probably this. This is where it starts feeling less.

like a polygraph and more like a. full-blown interrogation. A lot of. people would categorize this type of. interrogation like being buried alive. So, I think it's very interesting when. you watch a lot of interrogation takes. Each one has vastly different pacing, but they're all kind of across the board. can fit into different categories. And. it always depends on probably the. interrogator themselves, how much. evidence they actually have on the. subject, and then the subject. themselves. Each personality is going to. be different. But this one is such a. clear categorization of being buried.

alive. Just soil collapsing on the. subject. The overlying feeling is. supposed to be every lie you tell buries. you deeper and it becomes suffocating. The interrogator asked Lang, "Why did. you agree to take the polygraph today?". I didn't know. I thought I I was I. thought I had to. You know, has Ashley. ever run away before? Run away? Run away. from home? She went out the back door. before. Okay. I'm just talking about, you know, is she the type to kind of run.

off and go? No. You say she ran out the. back door. Ran out of the back room at. the apartment. No, at at the restaurant. Can you kind of tell me what you did. yesterday? Yesterday? Oh. Uh, I'm sorry. I haven't. slept for a while, so I don't know what. yesterday was. Has Ashley ever wandered. off before? Yes, she opened the back. door and walked out before. Can she. unlock the door herself to get out? Yeah, both both my daughters can. They. both did it. They're not supposed to do. it, but they do it. So, how many locks. are on the back door that they have to.

open? None. It automatically opens from. the inside. Okay. And then you need a. key to get back inside if you're. outside. Yes. What do you think happened. to Ashley? I don't know. So, what do you what do. you think if somebody took your child? What do you think should happen to that. person? What do you want to see happen. to them if you find out through the. investigation that someone took your. child? She was just wandering around and. they picked her up and took her. I would want her back. What do you think. should happen to that person?

Go to jail. What would be the. possibility that an accident happened. inside the restaurant? The possibility of an accident happening. inside to where she got hurt really, really bad. I guess it's possible. I'm. asking you because I have to look at. every possibility when I'm doing the. polygraph. Okay. The child walks out the. door and a very unfortunate thing. happens. Someone picks her up and takes. her and now they have their own child. Maybe there's an accident. She gets. burned with grease or something and the. next thing you know she's laying. lifeless. You're scared. You don't know.

if police are going to believe you or. not. So, you just take her body and hide. it somewhere. I have to look at that. possibility because unfortunately those. things happen as well. But if you know. what happened to your daughter, you need. to tell me because there's an awful lot. of people right now looking for her. A. lot of people more than you can imagine. Highway Patrols got helicopters, airplanes, they've got dogs, they've got. all kinds of people looking for her. But. if you know we're never going to find. her, you need to let us know right now.

because these people are away from their. families and they will be for days and. days and days. And that's not fair to. them if you know in fact where Ashley. really is. The other possibility would be that you. sold her. What? Unfortunately, a lot of. people do this. They sell their own. children. But you if you know what happened, you. need to tell me. Um, we got to stop. You're You're giving. me a lot of stuff and I haven't slept in.

a really long time right now. I don't. think I want to do this. A lot of other. people aren't going to sleep until they. find her. We owe it to you. We owe it to. everybody. We owe it to Ashley. I'm having trouble keeping my eyes open. right now. I've had 5 minutes of rest. since yesterday and I slept. I I don't. know how much. You ask all these tough. questions and I'm starting to get. scared. What are you scared of? Do you. know something that you haven't told. them? I mean, look, I'll be your. spokesperson for you. I know those. people. There's no reason that you. shouldn't be able to tell what you need. to tell. There's no reason you shouldn't.

be able to. And I will go right beside. you. I won't make you do it by yourself, but you've got to tell me what's going. on. I'm scared if I continue with this. test and it shows that I'm lying or I'm. trying to fake the test or something, it's it's going to reflect badly. You're. right. It will reflect badly, and we. don't want that. No, we don't want that. And I I told you. I'm having a really hard time. concentrating and sitting here. I can't. even really keep my eyes open. I just. keep blinking. Can you tell us where she. is? Can you tell us what happened to her. so we can at least go find her? Can you. at least do that for us? I'm just afraid.

for my wife, that's all. Why? What did. she do? Huh? What did your wife do? Did. she make a mistake? No. Her deportation, you know, I get that, but I don't care. about that. It's not about your wife. It's about your daughter. We just want. to find your daughter. No, my whole. family is going to fall apart. Can I. just go home first? I know you know. something. I just want to be able to. call off all these people if I can. If I. can send them home, that's all I want to. do. I just need a little more time.

That's all. Do you have any idea where she is? If we. just know where she is, you don't have. to tell me the rest of the story. I just. want to know where we can find her. I. just need a little more time. Do you know where she is? Would you tell. me that? Do you know where she is? The. longer this goes on and then they find. out all along you could have stopped it. and you didn't. Gloves are off. There's. nobody that's going to deal with you. Nobody's going to feel sorry for anybody. and it's going to get really ugly. And I. don't want that to happen. There's no. reason for that. I don't want it to.

happen. You don't want it to h happen. You don't have to explain to me, but at. least let us go get her. That's all we. want to do. So that we can send everyone. home so they can at least spend their. evening with their loved ones. I know. I. know. I understand. Okay. I really do. But you know, it's it's not just my. wife. It's my whole family that's going. to Can I just leave? Can I just leave. for a little while? Just let me go back. home to my wife and see my kid. I just. want to see my kid. You're not going to. tell us, are you? I just want to see my. kid and my wife. I want to help, but I.

can't help if you don't help me. I'm. going to reach my arm out to you. I'm. going to reach my hand out to you. Take. my hand. I'm here to help you. Look at. my hand. It's shaking. It shakes when. I'm nervous, but I'm putting my hand out. to you. Please. I don't. It It was an accident. We didn't mean for this to happen. What. happened? Did she fall? No. Something. get spilled on her? No. Somebody fall on. her? No. Was she playing and she got.

hurt? No. Just tell us so we can at. least go get her. I mean, I'm still. going to go to jail. But what did you do. wrong? Why would you go to jail? Because. I hit a dead body. The police are. searching for Ashley in the woods and. near the restaurant. They unlock the. front door to Ang's Cuisine. This is not. their first search of this entire. restaurant, but now they know for sure. that they're looking in the right. direction. They start going through, combing through the entire place again, but this time with a lot more patience.

They go through the kitchen, the walk-in. freezer, the messy storage room, the. tiny closet with the mattress in there. And why is there a ladder propped up. against the wall leaned above where the. walk-in freezer is? So on top of the. giant commercial walk-in freezer, there's a crawl space. Mhm. And they. shine the light. Look, the tiles are not. even. Get the ladder. We got to go up. there. So the light detector test was. when when was that taken? The next day.

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crawl space. and it is. storage. There's photo albums, wedding. photos of Mingming and Leang. He starts. taking some of them down and in the back. he sees like these few plastic bags that. smell. He grabs them and he opens them as. gently and as quickly as possible. And. inside he sees skin, dried fish skin and dried chicken. He shines his flashlight deeper into the.

crawl space and now he's like, "There's. really nothing left up here. I'm so. confused." He sees in the very back, shoved deep into the crevice of the. crawl space, is a busing container. Like, you know those gray plastic. containers that in restaurants they use. to take the dishes off the tables, those. little plastic tubs. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, yes. Like when you Yeah. So, this is all above the ceiling. You. were saying it's like a tiny little. cross like a mini attic, but it's not. even really an attic. So, the ceiling is.

flat. It's one ceiling, but because the. fridge, the freezer is not tall enough, there's a crawl space above it. Oh, for. some duct. I see. It's like a little bit of space, maybe like a cabinet. So, they connect. the uh freezer to the ceiling, and. that's a little Yes. So, they're going. through that and he just sees that. bucket left. So he starts slowly pulling. it towards him. It just looks like more. storage. He pulls it closer and closer. and he hears like a shaking noise. It's.

salt. It's like filled with salt and. just placed up here. Kind of weird, but. I mean maybe it's not the most hygienic. restaurant. They brush away some of the. salt and inside is a black plastic bag. and inside of that in a fetal position. is Ashley. All the major news networks. in Ohio are reporting breaking news. We. have confirmed here at the scene that. 5-year-old Ashley's body has been found. inside of her parents' restaurant. So,

continuing with this timeline, people. are just trying to add two and two. together. Now, that means that for 8 to. 9 hours, Ang's restaurant has been fully. operating, serving customers cooking. while the owner's deceased 5-year-old. daughter was in the back. The forensic. pathologist has to remove all the salt. covering Ashley's body, all those little. white specks. They conclude that the. cause of death is bluntforce trauma to. the head and the torso. A lot of the officers did not like the. parents from the get-go. One even goes. into detail in his report. Eyes were not.

bloodshot. No crying and mucus from the. nasal cavity. They just think that's not. how you act when your child is missing. Unless you're not their parent. Mingming and Leang have been telling. Ashley for months, I am your mom. This. is your dad. That person is not your. mom. Stop calling them your mom. I'm. your mom. But it is not clicking with. Ashley. Every time she sees Ming Ming. and Leang get intense about all of this, she starts crying. She starts acting. out. Ming Mming explains to the officers.

it's because Ashley was raised by Leangs. parents, her paternal grandparents. Ever. since she was young, Ashley literally. thinks that Leang's mom, her grandma, is. her real mom. Ming Ming says I need to. talk to her to explain to her I'm your. mom. Grandma is daddy's mommy. It's not. your mommy. I'm your mommy. You are from. me. From my belly. Okay. It's so hard to. talk to her when she's not even four. Mingming and Leang are sitting in.

separate interrogation rooms now in the. police station. Ashley's body has been. found. At first, Mingming tries to not. very convincingly, but attempts to try. and tell the investigators that maybe. someone brought up the idea that perhaps. Ashley was taken. She says, "I don't. know. The lady told me she thinks. someone took her." So, this is next day. The body has been found. Both parents. are in the police station, and she. hasn't been told that the body is found. In Mingming's interrogation room, there's a female and male interrogator, as well as a female Chinese translator.

that will come in and out. The. detectives try to explain how he sat. with Jojo alone to ask her questions and. he asks Mingming. And it's very. interesting. Mingming has her hands. placed on the table. They're folded. It's almost like she's in a work. meeting. Do you know what I asked your. oldest daughter? I asked her. I said, "Where's your sister at?" Do you know. what she told me? Mommy and daddy don't. want me to tell you what happened. No. way. She's not going to tell you that. because. I tell you something else.

You want You want me to tell you? Sure. We found Ashley. Okay. Where is Ashley? She's deceased. Why? Do you want me to tell you where we. found her? You went to tell us what. happened now. I I don't know. I I think. you're a good caring person that was. overwhelmed by a lot of things because. that's what you're telling us. And I don't think and I think that.

you're a good mom. Life can be very. overwhelming at times. I've got four. kids. I know. I can tell it. I can tell. you're struggling. And I just want to be able to sit here. with you and try to figure out, you. know, what happened. What can I hear. from you? The female detective leans in. What happened at the restaurant? What. are you talking about? We know something. happened at the restaurant. So, we're. trying to figure out what led up to. that. I don't know. I think accidents.

happen, too. And I think that there. could be something that happened that. was an accident and you didn't mean for. it to happen or your husband didn't mean. for it to happen. Jojo didn't mean for. it to happen. So, we need to figure out. some sort of accident happened so we can. understand. I just know what Jojo told. me. How do you think she's feeling right. now? This is the male detective. I don't know. You're a mom, a caring. mom, and you got a little girl that that. looks up to you. I'm not a caring mom.

She say I'm not a caring mom. Why do you. say I'm the caring mom? Cuz I can tell. you take care of Jojo. Yeah, I I I care to kids all the time. She has a brief moment with the. translator where the translator has to. explain to her that caring means loving. Carrie.

Okay. Loving. Loving. Loving. Oh, yes. You love you love your. kids. So, it appears that maybe she. doesn't know what the word caring means. Then they just skim over it. Ashley. Ashley, you're you're not even crying. I can't. Why? Because I can't.

I don't have any. What is anymore? Okay, I understand that. That's one thing you. and I both understand. Okay. What. happened to her? The male detective on. the side starts getting aggressive with. Ming Ming. He leans forward. He's. raising his voice. Your daughter is. dead, Mingming. She's dead. She's dead. She wasn't on the couch. She wasn't on. the bed. She's dead in your restaurant. And now we can sit here and play games.

all night, but I don't want to do this. I know that you love your daughters. You. told us. Do you think that Jojo wants to. go through this and lose her sister? Do. you want to sit and play whatever and. say, "I don't know what happened. What. happened to Ashley? How did she end up. dead in your restaurant? Silence. Your. daughter is dead. I just don't. understand. You said you have nothing. left. Isn't that what you told me? You. don't have any tears left. You have. nothing left. M. Your daughter is dead. I just don't understand that. I'm to the. point where I'm crying for your. daughter. I'm not expecting you to cry, but there's the death of a 5-year-old.

little girl. The energy in this tiny. room feels like maybe it's a little bit. much. Everybody steps out, leaves Ming. alone with her thoughts, and now just. the male detective returns. He plops. down across from Mingming. It looks like. he's plopping down in front of his. teenage kid who he just caught sneaking. out. He looks disappointed. He looks. disgruntled. He looks like he would. rather be, I don't know, 50 other. places. What are we going to talk about? Ming Ming shakes her head now. I'll. listen. I just I don't have any more to.

say because I know that you're just. going to tell me nothing happened. I. just want to find out what happened to. her. I can see it in your eyes that. something happened. I'm so tired. How do. you How do you say God? Don't you think I'm tired? Yes. I was at. home with my family last night. Okay. I. didn't get no sleep. So, I woke up. yesterday, Monday morning at 5:30 in the. morning. I haven't been to bed since. Okay. My job is to help people and but. also give people closure. Okay.

Your husband called me because your. daughter was missing. That's the report. that I got. Okay. I left my family. because it's important to me to come to. help you find your daughter. They are. facing off in the interrogation room. Usually the interrogators try to sit on. the side. Sometimes you'll have one. interrogator in front, but always. someone to the side. This detective is. closing in on her. He's sitting square. in front of Mingming. He's got his arms.

reaching about halfway onto the table. It's a tiny little table. He's looking. Ming Ming straight in the face. He's not. letting her look away. She's resting her. elbows on the very edge of the table. And she is also not leaning back from. his gaze or his very intense body. language. She's just staring right back. What happened to Ashley? How did she. die? I killed her. You killed her. Yeah. How did she die? Yeah. Kill her. What.

happened? How did she die? just kill her and then she died. How did. you kill her? Did you hit her? Did she. trip? Did she fall? I understand that, sir. Okay. Did you hit her? Yeah. Okay. How did How'd you hit her? How? Yeah. You tan to do that? Okay. Yeah. Is that.

what happened? How many times you hit. her? I don't know. What happened after she died? After she would die. Yeah, she just. died. Okay. What did you do with her. after you died? What you done? Nothing. Just Just leave her there. Word. Okay. She says, "I told my husband to take. care of it. I need to take care of. everything from the restaurant. I only. have two hands. I'm not four hands,

girl. I'm two hands. I don't want to do that to Ashley, but. you can't control yourself sometimes. Sometimes if you do it one time, that. means you have to do it two times. If. you do it two times, then you have to do. it three times. I don't want to do that, but I can't control myself. Meanwhile, Leang, the dad, is in the. next interrogation room over explaining, "My wife, she's not a bad person. I. mean, I married her. I wouldn't marry. her if she was physically abusive in the.

beginning because see my daughter, she's. 6 years old. Jojo took care of both of. us for 6 years. Not once did my wife. physically abused Jojo out of anger or. anything like that. We spanked her if. she did something wrong, but nothing. like the bruises on her or. like all over the place that you found. on Ashley. My wife is a good person. I. know it's very hard to believe seeing. Ashley, but look at Jojo. Look at Jojo. Ming Ming is a good person. She's a good. mother. She just has problems. Why didn't you ever report the abuse to. law enforcement?

I was worried, you know, scared. Scared. that guy's going to take my wife away. Well, how how bad? I mean, what kind of. abuse are we talking? It's not like. initially so bad. If it was initially so. bad, I would probably report it, but. just, you know, it escalated. Yeah. And. then at that point, I was like, she got. so much wounded on her, I can't call it. in anymore. Well, would she twist her. arm? Would she hickor? Would she hit. her? How? How? What? What happened? Pretty much all of it. You know, twist.

her arm, uh, kick her, hit her, but. never touch Jojo. No, not once. He. explains that Ashley was raised by his. parents for the first four years of. their lives, her life. And since Ashley. got back, maybe not even a year ago, they just, it's been rough. He says that. his parents call non-stop. They send. relatives over to tell Ming Ming that. she's a horrible mother. He says, "My. mom started telling my wife that she's. doing it wrong, that she's raising. Ashley wrong." That kind of got to my. wife because it's, you know, your own.

daughter and then your mother-in-law is. telling you that you're not doing it. right. You're not supposed to be doing. what you're supposed to be doing. That's. one thing. And then you got to look. after your own daughter. It she's four. She's not potty trained. She doesn't. know her last name. She doesn't know if. she's a boy or a girl. And the list goes. on and on with all these things. And she. finally knows that she's a girl because. we taught her that and we taught her her. last name. But initially when we got her. back from my parents, she didn't know. And combined with the fact that my mom. kept telling my wife that she's doing it. wrong and seeing how Ashley was actually. raised, the combination of the two just.

made my wife really angry. And the more. my wife saw Ashley being that way, not. being able to be potty trained and just. getting angry. It's always when Ashley. does something that Ming Ming gets. triggered by. She still doesn't know to. potty in the bathroom. So that really. gets my wife going because we have her. for a year now and she still can't she's. still not potty trained. So that was one of the things that.

really irritated your wife. Yes. He. tries to argue that every time Ashley. would not be potty trained, it's a. reminder for Mingming about her. mother-in-law criticizing her. What? Yeah. As for what happened yesterday, Leang. tells the full picture whereas Mingming. doesn't. Leang says that he went to go. drop off Jojo from school. He comes home. and he recognizes that Ashley had. defecated in her diaper. So, she pooped. in her diaper cuz she's not potty. trained. And which, by the way, I've got.

a very firm stance. If your child is not. potty trained, that's on the. responsibility of the parent. It's not. the child. The child does not potty. train themselves. She pooped in her. diaper and then I think she was so. uncomfortable with the poop in her. diaper because obviously it's very not a. great sensation she took off her diaper. which led to some of the poop falling. onto the floor. Leang walks in. Mingming. is smashing Ashley's head into the. carpet in the restaurant or at home? At. home. So, you know, you're 5 years old.

You know, you still don't know how to. open the potty. And my wife got angry. and uh hit her head on the carpet, you know, two times. And initially she. was breathing. She was still breathing. then. And did you did you watch did you. see your wife do it? Yeah. She stops. They let her be. She's making these. snoring sounds. And he says this isn't. the first time that her head has been. smashed into the carpet. So he didn't.

think anything of it. He thought it. would just be fine that he she was. hyperventilating, which that snoring. sound, we talked about that in like the. previous episode. That's not you're not. sleeping. Like he thought that she's. sleeping or she's hyperventilating. So. about a good 5 minutes pass and all this. vomit starts coming out of Ashley. She. starts having green fluid come out of. her nostrils. They take her, rinse her. off in the bath. They still, I guess, don't think anything of it. They bring. her back to the living room and she's. still breathing. And then a few minutes. later, he goes to check up on her on the.

living room floor and she is no longer. breathing. He starts freaking out and. that's when they decide they need an. alibi. So, they're going to dress her in. her clothes, put her in the baby seat, take her from their apartment door to. the car, buckle her into the car seat, drive their deceased child to the. restaurant, unbuckle her. That's when the roofers. saw her. She was already deceased by. this point. They're going to keep her in. the back of the restaurant while they.

open up for business, business as usual. And then he's going to go pick up Jojo. Jojo's going to see her sleeping in the. mattress on the back so that she doesn't. have to lie, so that she can tell the. truth and they look more credible as a. family. And then after Jojo leaves for a. second to get a tooth pulled out in the. front, Leang moves Ashley's body on top of the. crawl space. It's sick and twisted that. they're using their eldest daughter as. an alibi. But he also says, you know, I. didn't know it was going to be this. serious. He just thought that he was.

going to call 911 and they were going to. say, okay, your daughter is missing. He. said, I didn't know the procedure. We. didn't think that I was going to be. coming down here taking a polygraph. I. was going to be asked so many questions. that it was going to be involving so. many people. If we knew that there was. going to be 100 people searching, maybe. even more. I don't even know. I'm just. sorry. You guys actually cooked and. served meals while your daughter was. laying there? Yes. and well on business. as you don't. Yes, both of us were. afraid of what was going to happen if we. did. We were afraid that we're going to.

lose our daughter, we're going to lose. our family, uh the restaurant, the house. that we're getting, everything, everything in our life that's, you know, that we worked so hard for for. 6 years. This was going to be gone. See, he is so acting like he's so nice, right? He's saying like I I didn't know. my wife is nice. I'm just cleaning up. I'm scared. This and that, this and. that. He doesn't even care. The daughter. died. Yeah. Later, he keeps calling.

Ashley. It. Did you and your wife both agree on. putting her there in that container? I. mean, we talked about places and I said. this is probably the best place to do. it. You know, it's well ventilated with. the salt in it and we're not going to be. worried about the temperature because. it's cooler up there. Now, side note, there are speculations by netizens, and. as someone who knows a lot of people. close to me that are autistic, there are. speculations that perhaps Ashley was on. the spectrum. At one point in the. interrogation with Leang, the dad, he. shows the police how Ashley was. standing, which seems to irk him to the.

point where it sounds like he's almost. justifying their abuse to Ashley in some. regard. He says, "This is how she would. stand. I don't know where you get that. I don't know how she did that, but my. mother never corrected her, and this is. not how a person stands." So he stands. up in the interrogation room. He takes. off his hoodie for this demonstration. He stands on his tippy toes and his arms. are bent. And a lot of people with. autism called them like T-Rex arms. And. they're they they could be indicators.

for younger children where maybe. diagnosing is a little bit harder. This. seems to be something that some doctors. who specialize in the diagnosis look. for. Mhm. and that her hands would be. kind of bent at the elbows and then bent. at the wrist with her hands kind of. flapping forward. And then sometimes she. would put all of her weight on just one. foot. And then the other one would just. be tippy toeing. And again, tippy toes. is another sign that a lot of parents. with autistic children look out for and.

she would just do that pretty much. We. correct her, she would do it, we correct. her and do it. She would do it. A lot of. things. There's a lot of things that. we felt that my mom had her for 4 years. that she should correct these things. So, you know, every time I asking for. something like that, it would trigger my. wife because that my wife would be. reminded of what I thought. And he says. that's the reason that Ashley was. getting abused whereas Jojo wasn't.

because when they got Ashley back from. his parents, they said there were so. many quote problems that Ashley could. not feed herself. She was still in. diaper. She didn't know how to use the. restroom by herself. She was not potty. trained. She didn't even know how to go. into the refrigerator to get something. One family friend said, "I've seen. Ashley if she was thirsty or wanted. something. She would walk to the. refrigerator, point, they would have to. walk to the refrigerator, open it, and. then she would point to what she wanted. She was still in a high chair because. she didn't know how to use eating. utensils, hold a cup. And again, I just. don't know why any of the adults, even.

this family friend, is talking about it. as if it's something wrong with Ashley. I don't think anything's wrong with. Ashley. And if someone is upset by I. guess maybe her development, it's up to. the parents to work on that. I think. it's crazy that they're talking about. her like she's weird, like something's. wrong with her when nothing is wrong. with her. They would say things like, "So Ashley was almost like an infant in. a 5-year-old's body." And again, they're. almost placing the blame on Ashley when. it's on the parents. Leang says, "We. would have to feed her. Like, even a. regular piece of sliced bread. It would.

take her over an half an hour to eat. My. mom had her on a liquid or semi-liquid. diet. She has problems processing solid. foods. That's why it takes her so long. to eat." Clearly, they have no intention. of getting her help, though, because he. says, "We didn't take her to the doctor. We were afraid because the doctor would. see, you know, that she's bruised all. over the body.". Interestingly enough, people a lot of. people don't even know that they have. two daughters. A lot of them only know. Jojo. And there are speculations that. because maybe Ashley was not what they.

perceived as neurotypical, they didn't. want people to know that she was their. daughter. Yeah. And it's kind of gross. because in Leang's interrogation, he. continues to state that, "Yeah, okay, fine. Mingming's going to jail. I'm. going to jail. But guess what? I don't. want Jojo to be raised by my family. I. want her to go into foster care. He said. if Jojo is raised by his family, they're. going to turn out the way Ashley did. He. says, Jojo's going to turn out the way. Ashley did. He says, I just don't want. my family to raise my kids. I'm just. afraid they're going to turn out like. Ashley and then my wife is going to hate. her. And even as be he's being taken to.

prison, he says, I just don't want my. mom to have contact with my oldest. daughter, Jojo. Okay, not that she's a. bad person. It's just what happened with. Ashley. I'm really afraid she's going to. raise Jojo the same way. In prison, in. jail, the couple have turned on each. other. Mingming's attorneys have accused. Leang of harming both Mingming and their. two daughters. Those allegations did not. come back up in court, but Ming confided. in a psychiatrist in prison that Leang. was the one responsible for Ashley's. death. She claims that she was.

instructed by him to tell the. investigators that she was the sole. person responsible for Ashley's death. Some people, some netizens actually can. agree with this theory because the way. that she's confessing in the. interrogation. It's vague and it's like I killed her. Let's get it over with. I did it. Get. me. Oh, you're saying she didn't. All. she said was I she killed her with hand. Yes. And she didn't give any more. details. Yes. Every detail is from him. Yes. And then some netizens are digging. deeper psychologically and saying.

perhaps even her flippant attitude. So, a lot of people when they first see the. interrogation, it's like, "Wow, this. lady is crazy." And she is crazy, right? But some people think, "What if she. thinks she's doing something for her. eldest daughter?" Like, she's taking one. for the family. Yeah. I think she's. clearly crazy, but I think the husband's. more scary. Yes. Terrifying. Everything. the whole way he carry himself like my. wife is such a good person, but also she. murdered our daughter in cold blood. Yeah. She He's in his mind he keep the.

story he tells is oh I love my wife and. I'm protecting her. Yeah. But truly if. you think more he's like. clearly messed up. So the argument by. this people that believe and again. nobody is feeling sympathy for Mingming. but they're saying that maybe Leang is. the one that killed the daughter and. perhaps Mingming took the fall because. Mingming is not in the US. Yeah. Legally. So she doesn't have her papers.

Yeah. Yeah. And so maybe she thought. either way if he goes to prison I'm. going to get deported and then Jojo's. going to have nobody. So what exactly did she say? She said he. killed the daughter. Yes. And that he. has been abusive to not just her but. also the daughters. and he threatened her. If you don't take. the fall, you're going to get deported. and Jojo's going to go into foster care. and I'm going to go to prison. And then. she says that she originally took the.

hit for it until she realized that he. requested Jojo to be sent off to foster. care regardless. And the nizens who. believe this theory, not again, no. sympathy for Mingming, but they have. scoured through the Ang's Chinese. cuisine um restaurant Facebook page. There are just backtoback posts of Leang. running that page and saying, "Sorry, we're closed today because my wife is. sick. My wife is sick." So, people are. commenting, "Very odd that this place. was closed so many times due to his wife. being ill." They thought maybe he was. being abusive. Now, October 12th, 2017,

initially, Mingming pleads not guilty to. murder by reason of insanity. She ends. up taking a plea deal. She pleads guilty. to involuntary manslaughter and other. charges. And under that plea deal, she. has been sentenced to just 22 years in. prison. The judge says, "The horror of being. beaten by her own mother." I use the. word mother with great pain when talking. to you. It's insulting for mothers who. do what they're supposed to do for their. children. 100 years would not be enough. So, why 22 then? It's likely because she.

is going to be deported back to China. right after her sentence in 2040. Meanwhile, Leang is serving a 12-ear. sentence for his part of the crime. He. will be eligible for release in 2030, which netizens are very upset by because. during his own interrogation with the. police, he says, "Let's say I went. through with this and I didn't get. caught. I'm gonna be looking over my. shoulder for I don't know how long. because a dead body is there that I. eventually have to get rid of. And if.

you put it in the ocean, the tide can. wash it back. If you bury it, animals. can get at it. Someone can find it. If. you burn it, there's a chance someone is. going to see you because it's going to. be a very big fire. You're not going to. do it during the day. You're going to do. it during the night. So, when you're. burning a big flame at night, someone is. going to see it. We thought about all of. this and honestly, we weren't really too. sure what to do after that. One officer writes in his report during. the interview with Leang Dao, he shows. no remorse for Ashley, the only time he. showed remorse for was when he found out.

that he would not be able to see his. daughter Jojo. Even during his sentencing, he tells the. judge, "A year ago yesterday, I lost my. daughter." And he says nothing of any. substantial value or emotional. substance. He continues and takes a. weird turn. No one is going to remember. my daughter. No one. The people in my. family, I don't want to be rude, but. none of you remember her. None. It's so strange. and it's just left nizens with like a. really bad taste in their mouth. There. are a lot of people from the community. that are confused writing, "They look so.

nice. They seemed like good people.". Others writing, "I remember this case. I. was a new mom and I couldn't even fathom. someone being able to do something like. that. We all prayed together in front of. the restaurant and left flowers and. stuffed animals. They actually. demolished and rebuilt the strip mall. not too long after it happened. But. we're never going to forget that poor. baby girl. Another comment reads, "If. your child isn't potty trained at 5, that's completely on you. That is the. responsibility of the parent, not the. child. She's probably under constant.

stress that she had that little batter. bladder control." Others are traumatized. by their Asian parents actually using. this case against them. One nizen. writes, "My mother would probably would. have loved to use this case to tell me. how good I had it. Weirdly, she always. tells me to read child abuse books and. tell me how good I have it." Others. write, "It sounds like poor baby Ashley. was autistic and needed early. intervention. This breaks my heart. I. hope they get buried in jail.".

The fact that they used their other. daughter and let her see her sister. quote sleeping as an alibi makes me want. to throw up. The reviews to the restaurant now just. read not child friendly. And that is the case of Ashley Jou. What. are your thoughts? Let me know in the. comments. Be safe and I will see you in. the next one. [Music].