2 Teen Girls Planned to Slit Classmate’s Throat and Drink His Blood to Resurrect a Mass Killer

Bada bing, bada boom. >> There's usually a few places that. require automatic introspection. Like if. you were a completely able-bodied. person, you use the accessible bathroom. stall and you walk out and you see that. you clearly did not need to use that. stall. You could have just waited for a. different one and someone else was. waiting for that one. If you ever do. that, I mean, don't do that, but if you. do, that is a moment that would require. deep self-reflection as you awkwardly. wash your hands in shame. It's almost.

automatic, I would hope. Another one of. those places is sitting in the back of a. police car with your hands behind your. back. Clearly, you're not getting a free. ride. This is far less comfortable than. the worst Uber ride that you've ever. been on. And Isabelle, she looks. freaking uncomfortable. Isabelle is. sitting there and she's sitting up with. her her back is straight up against the. back seat of this police car. She's not. even sitting up straight because she. wants to be on her best behavior, which. would be smart. But Isabelle, you're. you're going to soon find out she's not. that smart. But because her wrists are.

handcuffed behind her back, she can't. even slouch if she wants to. She's. wearing this white t-shirt. She's got. very curly hair. And she almost has this. very young baby face. And she looks. bored. She's sitting on the left side of. the back of the cop car. The back door. to the right side opens and she just. casually looks over. She's not on high. alert. She's not anxious. She's not. looking around frantically and she just. leans her head to the side. Excuse me. Are we going to the same one?

>> Excuse me. >> Are we going to be in the same one? >> We don't really see him, but you can. assume it's a police officer. And he's. clarifying. What do you mean same one? Same jail. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you are. >> What do you mean same one? Same Joe. >> Yeah. >> Another girl starts sitting in the back. seat of the same police car and she's. got bright red hair. She's wearing a. tiny little tank top and she also has. her hands handcuffed behind her back and. both of them instantly the minute that. the redhaired girl her butt touches the.

bottom of the seat, they look at each. other and they start giggling. [laughter] They're like, "Yeah." And. they just start cackling. They're. looking at each other like we're about. to be in the same jail. 15-year-old. Isabelle Valdez and 14-year-old Lois. Liippard are sitting next to each other. in the back of this police car. And for. the next 30 minutes, I mean, I don't. know how they're going to come back from. the next 30 minutes. This is immediately. after both of them are arrested on their. high school campus, Lake Brantley High.

School in Florida, where they were. planning to kill a classmate in one of. the school bathrooms. Lois says, "Dude, they pulled the security cameras and. stuff and they got [music] to see us. walking out." I know. They saw. >> Dude, they pulled up the security. cameras and stuff and they got to see us. walk. >> Yeah. >> Mind you, the police are in the front. driving, so this they're not alone in. the backseat of the police car, which. even then they should know that they're. being recorded. Lois is like, "Yeah, that was the first time I actually. seen." Like I actually I wanted to see.

more. I was like, "Well, look, I'm on. the cameras there." It was so cool. I. was like, "Damn, I forgot that there's. just like videos like that.". >> That was the first time I've ever seen. I was actually I wanted to see so much. more. I was like, "Whoa, look, I'm on. the cameras." Like, >> it was so cool. I was like, "Damn, I. forget that there's just like videos.". >> Yeah. >> Later, Lois, the red-haired girl, looks. at Isabelle and she has this moment and. this look in her eyes and she goes, "This is such a bonding experience. I. love it.

>> This is such a bonding experience. I. love it. This is I mean it's like back. to back all 30 minutes. We're going to. go through all 30 minutes, but it gets. really intense. At one point, Lois is. trying to get a glimpse of her. reflection and she's trying to see what. she looks like right now. Isabelle. glances over. >> Oh, you trying to look good for your mug. shot? >> Oh Am I going to get a mug shot? >> Well, we're going to J. What do you. think? >> Oh god, that's crazy. >> Dude, I was going to do my makeup this. morning for the mug shot, but I couldn't.

find anything. I'm glad I don't actually. look too bad today. >> Isabelle rests her head on the back of. the little headrest in the back seat and. she's complaining. >> I look horrible. >> It's over. And. >> don't worry, you don't need I'm Don't. worry, you're the butch. It doesn't. matter if you look. >> Hey, at least they're going to see they. were going to see me some way or another. in the mug shot. >> And later, Lois brings up, >> you think I'll be able to fix my hair or. you think I'll be in prison handcuffs. for. >> Yeah, still handcuffs. >> Really? But don't you got to put up like. that uh number thing? I think that's.

only it shows. So stupid. >> And they talk about how they're so glad. that at least red-haired girl Lois, her. hair looks good and she dyed it before. this incident. And at some point, Isabelle and Lois, they start talking. about how they're going to get out of. jail sooner than later because, quote, "Not a school shooting at least." Yeah. We'd be in prison for life. Yeah. >> Not a school shooting at least. >> We'd be in prison for life. >> Yeah. Because the whole point of this.

was not that they were going to shoot up. their school. No, the whole point was. they were going to kill their classmate. to bring a school shooter back from the. dead. Two teens arrested after an. alleged plan to kill their classmate. >> This is the case of [music] 15-year-old. Isabelle Valdez and 14-year-old Lois. Liippard. >> [music].

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in the comment below. Lastly, quotes may. be condensed or combined for brevity. And with that being said, let's get into. it. You can't just resurrect someone. On. top of that, the mere definition of. resurrection is too vague. The. definition of resurrection could also be. changed based on who you talk to, what. they believe in. But interestingly. enough, resurrections are pretty much in. every recorded religion, culture. Apparently, it is a story that humans. love. Bringing someone back from the. dead. But there's also different types. of resurrections. You have a.

resurrection proper. This is when the. soul comes back to the original body. Literally, somebody dies. They come back. to life. This is not a neardeath. experience like oh I almost died I I. redlined you know I was code red. No you. you were dead and then you come back to. life in the original body. You have been. resurrected. The second one is a bit. more aligned with reincarnations which. is a soul comes back but in a different. or new body. Now I will say a lot of. people believe that you can come back in. a new human body that you are born again.

with a new life. But some people, a. small group of people believe that you. can actually come back through a body. that is not new. This is where all the. fantasy horror movies come into play. They take heavy inspiration from having. someone take over another person's body. and be able to control their human form. Then there's resurrection to. deification. Obviously, that's not. applicable to today's case, but you pass. as a human. You die as a human, but you. are now raised to divine status. you. sometimes you can bypass the death part. and become a god of some sort. But.

usually there is a dying whether it's. symbolic or literal. But clearly we're. not talking about deification or. religious resurrections. I would not be. well verssed enough to touch on that. even in the slightest nor do I think. it's my place. However, the point being. humans love a good story of. resurrections. It's like embedded into. so many of our stories. So much so that. even if you're not religious, probably. the idea of digging someone up from. their final resting place feels uneasy. Because most people have a belief that.

there is a soul and that soul is going. to be at unrest if you dig them up. And. if there's a soul out there, then aren't. you just one step away from trying to. bring that soul back into a human form? Which is not me saying that. resurrections are real and that they're. feasible. I tend to think the opposite. Even if I were a billionaire, I wouldn't. be a cryochamber buddy with Walt Disney. Because just like everyone else that is. prone to common sense, I feel that I am. skeptical of modern-day resurrections. and immortality messaging. 15-year-old. Isabelle Valdez, 14-year-old Lois.

Liippard, they're not. They want to. resurrect someone from the dead by. offering up one of their classmates in. return by performing what they called a. blood oath. I do want to preface this. all by saying I strongly believe that. Isabelle and Lois are both plagued by. the incurable disease that is stupidity. Nothing they do or think makes any sense. at all. They are the type of individuals. that make you want to actively fight. over population. Not only are they. stupid and reckless, they are very. aggressive with it. It's an aggressive.

IQ problem. I think they wanted to. resurrect someone with a blood oath. Not. because they know what either of those. two things mean. Not that that would. even change anything, but they strike me. as the type of people that feel like it. sounds edgy, so they're going to do it. Isabelle and Lois, their combined lack. of thought as they move through life. could be almost a tad bit silly had. their actions not been so destructive. But their whole idea, according to the. police reports, is this. It's all going. to happen after second period. That's.

when they're going to kill their. classmate. Now, the identity of the. 15-year-old boy has been thankfully. concealed. I'm just going to use the. name John for John Doe. No relation to. this case, just John to make it simple. instead of saying redacted every 2. seconds. According to the court. documents, the plan is this. Isabelle is. going to the upstairs bathroom after. second period. That's where she's going. to wait for Jon to pass. And she knows. that Jon is going to pass because she's. been stalking Jon for the past like 3. months of her life. Every day at school, she knows what route he takes, what. hallways he takes, which classes he has.

She's going to wait for Jon and when he. walks by, which he always does, she's. going to pull him inside to the. bathroom, drag him into the largest. stall, and quote, "Isabelle stated she. would then stab him in the stomach or. cut his throat." She even brought a. knife with her. A kitchen knife. The. police asked her, "Describe the knife to. me. It's just a regular kitchen knife.". This is Isabelle responding, "It's just. a regular kitchen knife. How big is the. knife?" "About 12 in long." She had. already tried sharpening the knife. earlier that morning in school. So. before second period, she's already. trying to start sharpen the knife.

That's one of the first things that she. does when she gets to school Friday. morning, January 23rd, 2026. So this is. like very recent. She tries sharpening. the knife. The police are asking her, "How were you trying to sharpen the. knife?" I try to saw it back and forth. on the toilet seat to sharpen it. So. she's in one of the bathroom stalls just. playing the violin with a knife and a. toilet seat. Her friend Lois is helping. her trying to sharpen the knife. It's. not working on the toilet seat. So they. try, you know those metal railings that. make it easier for you to get up that. you hold on to in bathrooms? They're.

trying to use the metal railing to. sharpen the knife, >> right? Huh? >> No. Lois even brought additional. supplies. Isabelle brought Clorox wipes, a trash bag, a knife, a yellow. microfiber towel. They're like, "Why'd. you need the microfiber towel?" Well, in. case I needed to muffle him to cover his. mouth. Lois, red-haired girl. Lois, what' you bring? She brought a chocolate. bar, Dr. pepper, gloves, cigarettes, a. lighter, and some flowers. The police. are like, "What are the. >> cooking flowers?". >> No, like fl floral.

>> Oh, >> what were the flowers for? Isabelle. tells the officers that she wanted to. leave the flowers for John's funeral. Okay. What about the cigarettes? Why did. you ask Lois to bring you cigarettes? Isabelle says that she wanted to smoke. the two cigarettes after killing Jon. because she knew that she would be. arrested, so she wanted to smoke before. going to jail. Now, side note, she's not. even a smoker. She just wants to smoke. because she's never smoked before and. she knew that she was going to get. arrested. So, what better time than now. to smoke a cigarette. But why John?

Like, we know that Isabelle has this. plan to resurrect a school attacker via. a blood oath, aka first-degree murder. She just has a plan to kill an innocent. classmate. That's all she has. But why. Jon? Jon and Isabelle have zero. interactions. They have zero conflicts, conversations. Jon doesn't even know. that Isabelle exists really. But. Isabelle says it's because Jon looks. just like Adam Lanza, the Sandy Hook. shooter, the one that she's trying to. resurrect, her quote soulmate. Very. early in the morning of January 23rd,

2026, so that's the Friday morning, there's this website called Fortify. Florida where students can submit tips. of anything dangerous that's being. planned or happening in schools. It's. completely anonymous, so you don't feel. like a snitch. It's supposed to get. forwarded to the appropriate. administrators, to the police, and this. anonymous tape comes in Friday morning. before class starts. A 15-year-old. friend of mine who is trans with a. preferred name of Jimmy told me that. he's going to kill somebody we know from. school by the name of redacted John,

which side note, we always use preferred. names and pronouns on this channel. And. while it does appear that Isabelle would. go by the name of Jimmy with some of her. classmates, she seems to only mention. going by Jimmy and being a trans boy to. the police when it feels a little bit. convenient. It almost feels like an. effort to distance herself from the. crime. Coupled with the fact that the. judge, prosecutors, mainstream media. outlets, police, they've all been. referring to Isabelle with she her. pronouns and her name Isabelle without.

any further clarification from Isabelle. So Isabelle even writes letters to the. judge using Isabelle Valdez. And also. side note, Isabelle pretended to be an. advocate against gun violence and. supported Sandy Hook support groups on. Facebook. So she just strikes me as a. rage baiter and a troll. So for that. reason, we're just going to be referring. to her as Isabella for the time being. But this tip comes in. A 15-year-old. friend of mine who is trans with the. preferred name of Jimmy told me that. he's going to kill somebody we know from. school by the name of John. He stated.

that he would do it tomorrow. Okay, this. is like middle of the night. It's. basically Friday, but I would assume. that this kid didn't go to sleep, >> right? >> This conversation happened just a couple. of hours ago. I have a great suspicion. that he's going to do this. He's already. been recently involved with police. officers at school about threats that. we've been getting towards our school. He knows the people who have made the. threats and the cops are also aware of. this. He also told me earlier today that. the cops had confiscated his phone as. they got another threat, which. apparently was one of the reasons why he.

wants to do something like this. I'm not. sure about Jimmy's legal name since I. never call him by his legal name, but by. memory it might be Isabelle. A few hours. later, Isabelle and Lois are in the back. of the police car giggling about going. to the same jail. And Isabelle starts. getting giddy at this idea because she. had last night told one of her guy. friends about this whole ordeal that she. was planning. And she's so excited at. the idea that the police are also going. to search his phone and he's going to. get in trouble because he never reported. any of this. I know. They asked me for.

his phone passcode. Wait, they went through his phone? >> No, they're going to go through his. phone. OH MY GOD. NO. >> YES. I told him he knew he didn't report. me. I told him already. >> She doesn't know someone ratted her out. >> No, she's telling Lois. Red-haired girl. Lois. Oh my god. Lois is just giggling. I don't know what's so funny. I told. him. He knew. He didn't report me. I. told him already. Louisis is like, "I.

thought he did a tip." He did a tip. Yeah, there was a tip shown. Did you not. see? Someone tipped. He. snitched. >> He did a tip. There was a tip. There was. a tip shown. Did you see it? >> Someone tipped. He snitched. >> Lois clarifies it was an anonymous tip, but I was just assuming based off the. writing. >> Oh my god. God, I knew I. shouldn't have told him cuz he was like, "Oh, can you please tell me I can't. sleep tonight?" you, God. >> This is when she finds out that someone.

tipped off the police. And Lois is. clarifying, >> yeah, I got shown a tip and it was like, uh, my friend, a 15year-old, uh, named, uh, he goes by Jimmy is going is. planning to kill some dude. Yeah. And it. was like I don't really remember their. real name, but I think it was Isabelle, >> bro. >> Yeah, it was spelled wrong, too. >> And Isabelle is just having this whole. conipion. God, what a snitch. And she's looking out the window as the.

police are driving past trees and she's. just muttering to herself, so stupid. >> God, she's such a snitch. So. stupid. >> And in the time that they should be. contemplating their own existence and. their attempted murder charges, Lois. mentions her masterful genius plan. She. turns to Isabelle. Dude, if I have to be. in a room where they have to like record. me or some I'm going to um I'm. going to pull out my tit so that I CP.

That's what I was thinking. Like if if. they had to start doing that instead of. just doing like the audio recording, I. was like, I'm going to pull up. >> They both seem to silently agree that. this is a phenomenal idea. And during a. brief moment of quiet in the car, Isabelle turns to Lois and she says, "Hey, hey, let's role play some Coline. stuff." What? >> And she says, "Wait, so who's Eric?". Red-haired Lois responds, "Well, I'll. probably be Eric because Eric obviously. gets it in the ass.".

>> Hey, let's role play some color uh. stuff. Hey. >> Yeah. >> Wait, who's Eric? >> Well, obvious I'll probably be Eric cuz. Eric obviously gets it in the ass. So, Lois, red-haired Lois is going to. roleplay Eric, one of the Coline. shooters, and Isabelle is going to be. Dylan, another one of the Coline. shooters. Isabelle starts doing this. unsettling but also very bizarre role-. playinging session in the car. And mind. you, there's still two police officers. in the front. Isabelle says, >> "Hey, Eric. Oh, off. Can.

>> Hey, kitty. Please talk to me. >> You probably don't even know about KFMD. FDM." Which, side note, KMFDM is a. German industrial rock band that Eric. was a huge fan of. And it's almost. become unfortunately for the band. synonymous with this weird glorifying. school attacker aesthetic. People who. don't even like KMFDM music will. purchase KMFDM shirts to wear because. they think they're in the aesthetic of.

Eric and Dylan. >> I don't know what aesthetic that is. >> Dead. Okay. But Isabelle is like, "Yeah, I do. Flashes off my KMFD. shirt. >> Um, yes, I do. Um, flashes my KMFDM. shirt off. >> So, she she's like inserting the motions. of role playing. She's like, "Yeah, I. know the band." Flashes off my KMFDM. shirt. Lois aka Eric turns to her and is. like, "Whoa, you know about KMFDM?" Um, yeah. I feel something in my pants.

>> Whoa. You know about KFDM? Yes. Um, I feel something in my pants. >> Isabelle says, "Hey, what if I have my. Jewish babies inside of you?" I hate. insert derogatory term for Jewish. people. No. What's wrong with you, Eric? Please, please, please. Okay, fine. And. Isabelle hits her with a uh sticks it up. your butt. >> Hey, what if you have my Jewish babies. inside you? >> Um, I hate Jews. No. What's wrong with.

you, Eric? Please. Please. Okay, fine. Through his nose. [laughter]. Uh, sticks it up through your butt. >> And then at some point, Isabelle gets. distracted midroll roleplay. Gets. distracted looking out the window and. goes, "Hey, my sister goes to therapy. over there. >> Hey, my sister goes to therapy over. here. >> I'm so lost right now.". >> Let me give you some context. There is a. small but very scary group of people on. the internet that idolize the Coline.

shooters, Eric and Dylan. Basically, they call themselves Coliners, and they. will make fan edits of Dylan and Eric. with sad songs and captions like, "Good. night, RIP my babies." And they're not. saying, "Rip" to all the victims whose. lives were lost during the Coline. attack. They're saying, "Rip my babies. to Dylan and Eric." They're called. Colbiners, and they obsess over making. edits of the dead killers with either. Europ songs or pumped up kicks. And they. tell others that Eric is the cuter one.

It's very reminiscent of the Wade Wilson. case where people felt like they could. save Wade Wilson just because what? He's. tall. He has cartoonish face tattoos and. has the same name as a Marvel character. It's so idiotic to the point where I. don't even think that I can describe in. a way that would do it justice how dumb. this whole thing is. He also killed two. people, Wade Wilson. So, stop the. nonsense. Colbiners are consistently one. of the groups that get booted from. practically every social media platform. because they're Colbiners. And the.

Coline tragedy has sadly become this. entry point for people to start. romanticizing and resonating with mass. killers. One net points out, Coline is. constantly portrayed as the ultimate. archetype of outcasts, getting revenge. against society. Therefore, disenfranchised edge lords start viewing. the shooters as inspiration. In reality, Eric and Dylan were just with. very, very hateful mentalities. It's. created this very alarming subculture of. people who most likely post gore in.

their discords. Like, that's kind of the. general subgroup that we're talking. about subculture. Now, side note, even. the idea that the two killers were. bullied, I mean, first of all, that's. hardly sort of any sort of justification. or sympathy point. So many people have. been bullied. They don't go on to kill. innocent people. But even that has been. highly debated. Many say that they were. bullied, but also they went on to bully. others. Others say that they were barely. bullied. They just used it as a reason. to hate humankind. And then most people.

agreed that if they were bullied, they. were not bullied any worse than how they. bullied others even before the killings. So, I understand that there might be a. want to understand what was happening in. the minds of these two killers, but it's. very alarming to relate more to the. killers than to the victims just because. the killers were rejected by society. No, felt they were rejected by society. Dylan and Eric, and the only reason that. I'm talking even slightly in depth about.

either of them is because it's pretty. pertinent to this case. But Dylan and. Eric, they left behind what is now. referred to as the basement tapes. They. documented their process on planning the. entire attack on their school. They have. thankfully these basement tapes in its. entirety thankfully have not been. released to the public. There has been a. lot of push back over the years. A lot. of people want these basement tapes to. be released so that they can armchair. psychoanalyze what the actions of the. two killers stating that it would give. the general public a better. understanding of why the killers did.

what they did. And I personally don't. think that they should ever be released. I think it would just give column. binders more materials for their weird. edits and spawn even more copycats and. further traumatized victims and their. families. And that is if they even still. have the basement tapes. From what I. understand, Jefferson County Sheriff's. Department has destroyed the basement. tapes years ago. I do think that perhaps. federal agencies could hold copies, but. I'm not entirely sure. But all of this. leads to the Coliner fandom. There is an.

overlap with another fandom. And the. fact that I'm calling it a fandom makes. me want to pull my hair out. The dumbass. column binders, there's a bit of an. overlap to a fandom that is obsessed. with this indie film called Zero Day. It's a found footage style film and it. opens with two guys. They're vlogging. So the whole time it's like a vlog, an. extended vlog. The last few minutes. there's CCTV footage, but most of it is. a vlog. and they're vlogging in front of. a school saying, "This is our high. school located in our town. It's our.

worst enemy. It's our nemesis." There. will be a series of missions followed by. a big ass mission called Zero Day. The. movie is about two high school students, Calvin or Cal and Andre, and they're. going to be school shooters. It's very. clearly inspired by Coline. Even the two. characters, it seems like Cal is based. on Dylan and Andre being Eric. There is. a lot of praise around the film centered. around how real it felt with movie clips. often being mistaken for real footage.

from Coline, which is um conflicting, but people state that they watch the. movie and they've become even more. passionate about gun reform because it's. left such an unsettling feeling in their. hearts. I imagine that's the ultimate. mission of the filmmakers. However, a. lot of coliners have created a miserable. subculture around zero day and DD film. as well. They would make fan art, fan. edits. I mean, granted, it's a fictional. movie, but it's so closely resembling. the Coline tragedy that I find it hard.

to understand how you can make fan edits. of these two fictional characters and. how you can become obsessed with them. Especially when they're still school. shooters at the end of the day, even in. the fictional plot, like nobody watches. Criminal Minds and starts making fan. edits of one of the pedophiles depicted. in this fictional show just because it's. fictional. It's still unsettling. >> Mhm. And again, this is not the group of. people who felt like this movie was. deeply touching in a sense of it was so. startling. It was so it was so poignant.

and they fell in love with the actors, the individuals who depicted the. characters. It's not that. These are. fans who fixate on Cal and Andre [music]. as the school attackers. They don't care. about the actors. They don't care about. how the film made them feel. They just. want to make fan edits of them. And it's. primarily just offensive wannabe edge. lord slop. >> So you say the two two girls wanted to. bring back. >> Adam Lanza who's the Sandy Hook shooter.

>> So they just love every school shooters. Is that right? >> Yeah. >> And that whole role playinging is that. just like a thing they do to like a game. they commonly play? >> It seems like it. It seems like this is. how they talk on Discord and they a lot. of people have categorized them as. larpers. >> What's that? >> It's like faker. Like people trying to. be edgy. >> but you're not actually edgy. But I. would imagine that most people who. idolize these killers are all larers.

or primarily cuz why are you idolizing. them? It's just bizarre. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's really weird because I think. everyone dislikes Isabelle Valdez and. Lois Liippard or it seems generally. speaking most people dislike them. because of what they've done. But. weirdly, even in their community that. they came from where they glorify. killers, they're getting hated on. because I went into the weird depths of. the darkness on the internet and they're. getting hated on over there cuz they're.

like they're little faker lipers. and I'm like you guys are all weird. And. within this niche of zero day fans, they. have a group of people that like fan art. and a group of people that will make fan. art for these people, artists who would draw fan art of Cal. and Andre. And there was one that was. somewhat wellknown on Tumblr by the name. of Fox Fever. Fox Fever is Lois Libert. She actually has an extensive portfolio. of drawing zero day fan art. So, the.

indie film fan art of Call and Andre. loosely based off of Eric and Dylan. >> So, what exactly does she draw? Like, >> she just draws the I mean, she's Okay, I'm just going to try to describe some. of her art. I'm going to try to put some. up in the video podcast, but it's pretty. graphic. Some of them it's she will draw. them making out. I mean, she's. objectively not a bad artist, but her. depictions are quite dark. With one with. Andre, he has blood dripping out of his. mouth. He's stabbing his own stomach. Another shows Andre wearing a shirt that. reads natural selection, which is what.

one of the Coline attackers wore. Another shows Cal going down on Andre. Another one of them is of them hugging, kissing, where both of their mouths are. filled with blood. They're harming each. other with knives and finding. satisfaction from it. Uh, one they're. full-on having intimate relations, and. one where it appears that they are. lovingly looking into each other's eyes. while blood is spewing in the back, which you can kind of piece together. that that might be taken from a moment. of inspiration perhaps of how they were.

looking at each other while innocent. lives are being taken by them. Another. one that depicts Kalen Andre dead on the. ground, but that drawing is very. reminiscent of the Coline killer's death. photo that has been circulating. Yeah, Fox fever. Lois Lipper would even. animate her drawings. One shows Andre. sitting there looking conflicted while. Cal is screaming at him, "Why does it. hurt to love you?" Andre responds, "I. don't know." So, it's really not that.

deep. But another drawing comes with the. words, "You can't cure somebody who has. nothing wrong with them." She also liked. to draw Elliot Rogers, Jeffrey Dawnmer, one of the Academy Maniacs, which is a. Russian killer. So, again, just like. wannabe edge lord slop. But 14-year-old. Lois Liippard has also drawn very. personal images of Isabelle and John, the classmate that they were allegedly. going to kill together. One drawing. shows John sitting on the floor and his. body language looks like he's backing. away, trying to scoot away. And Isabelle.

is holding on to him, caressing his face. and telling him he looks like a. porcelain doll. >> How do we know who exactly she's drawing. though? >> Oh, because they tell the police. >> Oh, they explain their art. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you can kind. of tell the facial features. So Cal and. Andre are drawn in a very specific way. all the time. With John, there's slight. discrepancies where it's sometimes hard. to tell whether she's drawing Adam Lanza.

or John, but most of the time it's John, the actual student that they're trying. to kill. Another drawing shows Isabelle. being hugged and on one side it's Adam. Lanza and on the other side it's John. and they're both kissing her on the. cheek and the head. Then there's another. one of John with a rope. Another one. shows Isabelle holding John and the. caption reads, "Take your hands off my. neck and hold on to the ghost of my. body.". They're just trying to be dark and. introspective and poetic. [music].

>> Isabelle is the artist. >> No, >> no, no. Okay, so she is drawing her. friend. >> Yeah. Lois, not herself. No. Lois. Redhair is drawing Isabelle with John. And Isabelle is the one that wants to. kill John. Lois is just kind of here for. the ride. She's like, "I'll help you.". essentially. >> So, she's not like drawing herself. >> No. >> At all. >> No. >> Interesting. Okay. >> So, she's drawing Isabelle. She's. drawing John. And she does take a lot of. requests. There was apparently a DM from.

people who had messaged Lois Libert, red-haired girl, the artist, previously, and were like, "Hey, can you draw this. for me?" And she would say, "You have to. go through Jimmy first." Which is. Isabelle. >> Mhm. >> So, it seems like she does take. requests. Then another one is Isabelle. holding a guy's face to her chest. It. looks like John and she's hugging him. He looks very alarmed and not excited to. be there. It's just [music] odd. Another. one depicts Isabelle holding up a very. thin, frail John up against the wall,

like holding him up in the air while. she's admiring him. Others show Isabelle. reaching down there doing things to Jon. Another shows her performing intimate. acts on Adam Lanza. One of the alarming. drawings shows Isabelle and John dead on. the ground, but the way they're laying. on the ground, the clothing that they're. wearing, the positioning of their. bodies, where their arms are laying, it's basically again the Coline shooters. death photo because both self-exited in. the library that day. It's a real photo, but it's drawn and it's replaced with.

Isabelle and John instead of Eric and. [music] Dylan. Back in the police car, Isabelle turns to Lois, the artist, the. red-haired girl. They also saw the. drawings, the ones of Isabelle and John, the student that they were trying to. allegedly kill, right? And the ones of. Isabelle and Adam Lanza that Lois drew. all of this for. And Lois doesn't even. seem that alarmed. She just says. >> they also saw the drawings. >> Oh, yeah. I told them I told them about. that. I told them like, "Yeah, I did. some weird drawings for. I didn't actually tell the full thing.

till like 10:30, I think.". >> Yeah, they made me tell everything that. was in the drawings. M. >> Oh, can you remind me of the drawings? Let me just know what they went through. [laughter]. >> Did they comment? They were like, "This. is really good." They say, "Yeah, they. said you're quite the artist." And I was. like, "No, that's my friend Lois's.". >> Once they settled back down from. giggling, Isabelle looks at Lois and. she's like, "Dude, we were supposed to. spread our story through around the TCC, though. >> What's TCC?" TCC is typically known as.

the true crime community, but this is. not this is not um like I know if you're. watching this video you're like, "Oh, I've never heard of TCC." There's a. reason for it. We are not talking about. the Redditors who are on Unsolved. Mysteries, who are on 48 hours, who are. watching Dine, going into rabbit holes. That's not what you typically refer to. as TCC. TCC is more aligned with people. who glorify mass murders, typically the. ones that attack schools, to the point. that it's almost synonymous with the.

Coline community, which is basically. Coliners. To give you another example, I. was falling into some weird rabbit. holes. Like, they're the ones that are. making, you know, the Vietnamese butcher. case that we covered recently. They're. making fan romantic edits of the killer. and the victim falling in love whilst in. the act of the crime. You could be. listening to this podcast, you could be. watching Dline and never see a TCC edit. in your lifetime on any of your. algorithms because it's not there's not.

necessarily an overlap. To give you an. idea, one person comments, "I remember. when I was younger, I tried to join TCC. thinking it was internet sleuths, but it. was just a bunch of people saying mass. shooters were hot, and I was very. disappointed." Another one writes, "The. TCC is so lame these days. I. remember when people actually studied. cases and had genuine interest in. criminology. These days, it's just, "Ooh, I want XYZ murderer to breed me.". They make edits of Adam Lanza saying, "I. love Adam. He's so silly and quirky.".

They like to justify killer killers and. their actions with blanket statements. like, "But we all make mistakes. He was. just being quirky." They'll edit killers. with halos as if they're in heaven. Some. of them will even go as far to write. about how they think one of the killers. And I'm not going to name them. specifically because I don't really care. to name more than necessarily in this. episode. But they write about how one of. these random school attackers would make. a good boyfriend because by the way, this is someone who killed over a dozen. students. But they write, "First, I.

think he would be very clingy and. affectionate. He literally wouldn't ever. get his head turned by any other girl. He'd be so focused and set on his. girlfriend." This is a positive and also. maybe a negative. It may be overwhelming. and overbearing sometimes. He'd be. quirky for sure, which I guess is a good. thing. Depends on how you define quirky. He would have very different interests. I'm sure he would be very different from. the usual guys that you would meet. I. think he would sometimes come off as. aggressive and heated moments, but then. afterwards apologize profusely to his. girlfriend in case he upset her. I think.

personally speaking, he'd be a nice. boyfriend, but it would take someone. open-minded and caring to understand. that he's different. And different isn't. necessarily bad. He's a mass killer. Another one writes on a picture of. Dylan, one of the Coline killers. I will. never understand the girls that turned. Dylan down cuz damn, I'd beg God on my. knees to even be near him. Those girls. don't even know how lucky they truly. were. There's even Dill shippers. These are. Dylan and Eric shippers who I can't. believe these words are coming out of my.

mouth. Who shipped Dylan and Eric, the. Coline killers. And then there's Adam. Lanza who to bypass all of the. algorithms on social media. Lots of. people will do like hashadam lasagna. which is what they call Adam Lanza and. they post so that they don't get banned. on these platforms. He's the Sandy Hook. shooter. He killed 20 first graders and. six educators and then self-exited when. law enforcement arrived at the school. One person writes, "Whenever I think too. hard about Adam dying in the fetal. position, it makes me want to throw up. He was seeking comfort and connection.

even in the very end despite denying. himself of it in life. Sometimes I think. about who the person was to prepare Adam. for cremation and if they treated his. body with respect. It's going to sound. freaky, but I wish I could have had just. a moment with his body not to do. anything gross, but just to feel how. frail he was and how he would never had. even had the chance to get better, even. if he didn't go through with his plan. Again, same killer who killed 26 people. 27 if you count his mother that he. killed before going to Sandy Hook. He's. also the one that had this very rambling.

video essay rant. It's like 6 hours. long. It was miserable to get through. But he says, "If you've ever known to. have engaged in a pedal relationship. with a child, you're instantly. imprisoned for prolonged periods. You're. brutalized in prison and people actually. celebrate that as if it's a good thing. And then if you're lucky enough to. escape prison with your life, you're on. a sex offender registry. You're possibly. castrated. You're tracked with a GPS. device in some instances. And there are.

just so many issues that PDF files that. everyone seems to think it's not a. problem at all. It's somehow justified. that they're treated in that manner. And. you have to develop such extensive. arguments just to refute that delusion. that somehow having. with children is harmful to them. innately. Basically, he's a PDF file. defender, and people are commenting, "He's so intelligent and cute. He was so. smart. I miss him every second of my. life. I cry over Adam at least twice a. week." Isabelle Valdez was one of those.

people who liked Adam Lanza. Her. Facebook cover photo is a memorial. banner for Sandy Hook, which is a sign. that reads Sandy Hook Elementary School, we will remember. Previously, it was. Coline High School, Hart, Sandy Hook. Elementary School. Her Facebook bio. reads gun safety advocate 1213 2012 28. dove emoji 28 dove emoji she's referring. to Sandy Hook and 28 that includes Adam. Lanza which nobody includes him in that. count. Some people don't even include. his mom in that count because they feel.

that she failed to get her son the help. that he clearly needed and more or less. gave him easy access to firearms. But. Isbel is counting Adam Lanza 28 dove. emoji. According to police documents, she tells the assistant principal that. the morning that she's caught because of. this whole tip, like a few hours before. she killed Jon, that her victim is John. because he's perfect. He reminds her of. Adam Lanza and that she heard voices. telling her that if she kills Jon, she.

and Adam Lanza would have this blood. bond and it would bring Adam Lanza back. to life. The police report reads, "Isabbel went. on to say that after she killed Jon, she. was going to make a blood ritual for. Adam Lanza. I asked Isabelle what was. her intent when she said she was going. to make a blood ritual. Isabelle stated. she was going to take the photo she. brought of John, place them against his. body." Isabelle stated that she was. going to try and wipe Jon's blood, you. know, even though he's bleeding. And. then she stated that she asked Lois for.

an extra shirt so she could put it on. Jon's body. No one knows what any of. this means. Like, this feels like the. weirdest, bizarrely strung together. crime. Isabelle believes this blood. ritual would show her devotion to Lanza. Isel stated that she heard voices saying. if she carried out killing Jon, Lanza's. voice would come back to her. Isabelle. stated that she used to hear Adam. Lanza's voice, but no longer does, and. she misses Lanza's voice quite a bit. And it's disappointing that she never.

got that connection again. and she. believes that if she kills Jon, Lanza. would come back to her and she wouldn't. be alone. Isabelle advised that while. she was sitting in class, one of her. online friends pleaded with her not to. follow through with her plan, but she. was intent on killing John. >> So, do we know how like what happened? Someone tipped the police and the police. just showed up at the school and they. >> Yes. So, someone tips the police and the. administrators also get the same tip. later. Isabelle and Lois have already.

showed up at the school. They're going. through their classes as normal. The. whole plan is to take place after second. period. But before then, they're like, "We got to sharpen the knife." So, they've already gone to the bathroom, scoped it out, tried sharpening the. knife, and then they went back to class. Administrators get the tip, and they're. like, "We got to pull Isabelle out of. class.". >> How do they know it's Isabelle? >> Because at the very end, it said her. government name, I think, is like. Isabelle, right? So, they pull Isabelle. out of class. They bring her into the. administrator's office and the assistant. principal is asking her a ton of. questions before the police even get.

there. The police are on their way. They. make it there and they arrest her and. Lois. >> So, they put Isabelle out and Isabelle. just straight up start telling them. everything. >> Yeah. And she's like, "All the stuff is. in my backpack. >> and I am going to kill him.". >> Yeah. And she was like, "Because I wanted to. bring back Adam Lanza." They immediately. get placed in the back of the police car. where for the next 30 minutes they do. damage that I don't think a defense. attorney could ever undo. >> Do you believe. they were going to go through with it?

>> Yeah. Isabelle even clarifies in her. written statement to the police later. that the whole blood oath because I mean. not that it not that making sense would. make it better or understandable or. justifiable. Obviously not. But it just. it's so poorly executed and thought out, it doesn't even make sense to people. So, she's trying to clarify, well, the. blood oath was going to happen because. she was going to drink John's blood and. then smear his blood on her body. That. would be the blood oath. Even in her.

written statement, she writes like this. I was planning to possibly smear his. blood on myself andor drink it. I wanted. to take photos afterwards, then leave. his body in the bathroom and give the. camera SD card to Lois Liippard. I was. going to do it because I heard voices. telling me that if I did it to show my. devotion, Adam would come back and speak. to me like before. Heart. She's writing hearts in this police. written statement. John also didn't do. anything. He had no interactions with. Isabelle. He never spoke with her. There. was no conflict. They never fought. Like.

he is just picked as a victim purely. because Isabelle felt like he looked. like Adam and that Adam is Isabelle's. soulmate. The police report states that. from September of 2025 to January of. 2026, this so the span of a few months, Isabelle has been diligently stalking. John. She's been taking pictures of him. Prosecutors eventually find over 200. photographs of John in Isabelle's. possession. According to the police report, I asked. Isabelle when she started taking the.

photos of John. September. I asked her, you know, where she was when she took. all these photos. And she said that they. were all taken at school. She would wait. in the areas where she knew that he. would be and would sometimes go there. and just take photos, waiting for him to. show up. She would wait for John to pass. her. And she never tried to make it. known that she's taking pictures of him. So, he would have his back turned to her. and she would take all these photos. But. it continues and they're asking, "Well, did you what did you do with the photos? Did you post them anywhere?" She's like,

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really any one of her other classmates. But Isabelle writes, "Do you think he. actually switched out of this class?". Like I feel like she wouldn't have even. put the ticket. Like maybe he's just. skipping because I creeped him out. So. she's like, "Is he skipping class. because I creeped him out or did he. switch out of this class because I. creeped him out?" And she's like, "Most. likely he is. I doubt it. He doesn't. even know my name." I mean, probably. didn't even read it. Like I I just keep. thinking I need to stop thinking he'll. probably just avoid me because it wasn't. that weird. So we don't have any. context, but it's pretty clear that.

she's like, "Oh, I'm kind of creeping. this guy out.". >> Mhm. Someone writes back on the note. I. honestly think he's just skipping, but. maybe he's in the process of getting. something against you. I hope he doesn't. get a restraining order. Isabelle. writes, "No, he would have already told. his mom. I've been doing it for like 2. weeks. Most likely when he turns around. sometimes." [music] So, this sounds like. taking pictures. Like, I do it when he's. turned around. Isabelle's friend writes. back, "But maybe he did notice all the. other times you were following and. filming him when he turned around like.

staring at us." No, like when I get. personal shots, when I'm alone, it's. just when he's turned around. On her. Tumblr account, Isabelle used to write. things about John, like, "He smiles like. Dylan, looks like Adam, is absolute. perfection. He's the perfect example of. what can be made. He looks like a doll. I adore him. I'm in the worst parasocial. relationship with him. And Fox has been. drawing me art of us. I've been. following him around and whatnot.". But she tells the officers that she.

resisted killing him because, quote, "I. first came up with the plan. approximately 3 months ago. But I. resisted the urge to follow through with. the plan and I would just tell myself I. have to stop thinking like that." But it. clearly doesn't work because January. 23rd, 2026, she is arrested for trying. to kill John. inside Isabelle Valdez's. backpack along with the knife, the rag, the trash bags, the gloves, the Clorox. wipes, there's a little note left. behind, and it reads, "Dear Mama and.

Papa, I'm sorry for what I'm going to. do. Hopefully, you will find this paper. I want you guys to know that none of it. is your fault or anyone else's in that, you know, in that matter. I chose to do. this myself for myself and Adam Lanza. [music] They told me that Adam would. come back to speak with me if I did this. for him." Adam Lanza wanted it. I think. it's a fair and beautiful sense of. devotion on my behalf. I love Adam. Lanza. We're soulmates just waiting to. be reunited once more. I want you guys.

to know that you were the most perfect. parents [music] ever. I'm sorry I could. not be a better child. I've known. there's been something wrong with me. since I was a little kid. I just never. showed it. And I'm sorry. I was never. really shy. I just hated people. And I. was aware of how disgusting everyone is. Being forced to talk was torture. These. ramblings are very reminiscent of Adam. Lanza. So, I'm not entirely sure if this. is genuinely how she felt or if this is. how she fell into this like TCC. community and tried to embody this.

aesthetic of outcast. I never liked. humanity. Mankind is doomed and society. has all these values that don't mean. anything and we're just imposing values. upon others and morality is not even. objective. morality just doesn't exist. as a concept. I don't know if she just. like listened to the 5 and a. half hour ramblings of Adam Lanza that. are incoherent most of the time and. don't make good sense. But I I don't. know if this is how she truly felt or if.

this is furthering the aesthetic that. she wants to be a part of. >> She says, "I pretended to be a. socialite," which is not the word to be. used in that context, but to make you. guys happy because I love seeing you. guys happy. It was one of the only. things that made me happy. Over the. years, I've just lost control over. myself and my emotions. Whenever I told. someone I hated you guys, it was a pure. [music] lie. I'm sorry for ever hurting. you, and I deserve what's coming for me, as I am also disgusting, cruel, and. useless. Again, these are very. reminiscent of the Coline killers and.

Adam Lanza. Well, actually, maybe the. Coline killers. They believe themselves. to be above humankind. But in perhaps in. an attempt to get Isabelle to have some. remorse, the assistant principal before. she's arrested initially asked her, "Did. you consider how your parents or even. how John's parents would feel if you. went through with this? They would be. sad, but I don't really care. Did you. consider the consequences like of what. happens to you if you go through with. this jail or psych ward? But it doesn't. matter. I was still going to do it. I. want to be with Adam Lanza." She later.

admits that last night before school, she did cry in the shower, but it was. quote because she wasn't crying because. of herself or her actions, but because. of how it was going to affect others, you know, but also at the same time, she. was thinking whatever, what's done is. done. That's what she says. Isabelle. states that she only feels bad for her. parents because they've been great and. they tried their best. So, back in the. back of the police car, Isabelle and. Lois are ranting about how the police. were grilling them. red-haired Lois. Liippert, the 14-year-old, right? She's.

more so the accomplice. >> So, after police came, before they were. taken into the police car, they already. went through a round of questioning. Yeah. In the school. >> Oh, yeah. And then as they're walking. out, both handcuffed together. They're. like, "Hey, best friend.". >> From school to the police car. >> Yeah. Yeah. I think the only time they. look a little serious is when Isbel. Valdez is being read her charges, which. is attempted murder. >> When was that? >> In the school hallway. And she looks a. little serious, but not really. She just. looks like a little something. >> There's a whole tape from the school all.

the way to the police car. >> There's like six seven minutes from. inside the school. There's a few minutes. going to the police car. And then. there's about 40 but 10 minutes of those. are after the So like 36 minutes of them. in the cuz we did a foyer request. >> There's about 36 minutes of them in the. car talking yapping. And they really. don't like to sit in silence. So it's. like a solid 30 minutes of yapping. And. if you're watching the video podcast on. YouTube, I'm actually going to dump the. entire body cam footage clip at the end. of the episode because I've kind of.

broken it up into parts, but if you want. to see the whole thing in chronological. order, it's going to be at the very end. So Isabelle and Lois Liippard are. sitting in the back and Lois, redhaired. 14-year-old girl, the accomplice, is. saying, "I told them the important. stuff." And then they came back and they. were like, "I'm getting really pissed. off. You're not telling me everything.". And I was like, I swear that's all I. remember. So I just had to sit there for. a few minutes just trying to remember. every thing and every. little detail. And I was like, oh, so. there are these images of Adam Lanza,

Isabelle Cudson. Dude, I forgot what to. say halfway through my interview. Yeah, that was me for most of my interview. Well, actually, half the interview was. just me being silent and not doing. anything because I was hoping I could. cling on to the um the like you have the. right to remain silent, but low key that. didn't work. That didn't really work. Isabelle's like, I know because it's. like they're just going to use it. against me in court. Like, hey, why do. you have these drives with these little. boy? Like hard drives of pictures of.

this little boy. And then she goes, hey, why do you have these drives of this. little boy? Sorry. Oh, they're gonna use it against me in. court. Hey, why you have these drives of. this little boy? Um, sorry. >> What? >> I Yeah, Lois is like, "He's not a little. boy. He's older than you." No, he's not. Well, oh, yeah. Yeah, he's older than. you. It's not some little boy. They. can't say this little boy. This older.

boy. This older boy who's abusing me. So. now they're giggling and coming up with. this idea of trying to say that the. victim was abusing them, which he in no. world was. [music] And Isabelle finds it. funny. She's like, "Yeah, I think in my. dreams he told me he wanted me to kill. him, so I think it's only fair." Yeah. Oh my god, I almost laughed and almost. peed myself. This becomes a reoccurring. theme where Lois keeps saying that she. almost peed herself. So she's like, "I. almost laughed so hard I almost peed. myself." She's not really laughing in. these moments. And I will say I if you.

watch the clip in its entirety that I'm. putting at this end of the video, you. just see Lois get filled with more and. more regret. Like both of them, the. energy gets more tense. They're still. joking around and laughing, but I think. it's dawning on them very slowly what's. happening. >> Very slowly. >> Yeah. Very slowly. Very, very slowly. Yeah. Cuz it should have dawned on them. before they even got into the car. >> So you said there are two cops in the. front. >> Yes. >> They can clearly hear it. >> Yeah. Because they later talk to them. They interject in one of their.

conversations. Yeah, I'm we're gonna get. there. Yeah, the cops are clearly. hearing this. I personally think that. the cops strategically put them in the. back of the police car together so that. they could have this conversation. because of course they're. >> Yeah. The more the better. >> Yeah. And then I think they took a. longer route. >> because I don't think that it would take. 36 minutes for them to get from the. school to the local police department. >> Wow. Yeah, that's true. So, do you think. they just didn't know there was a camera. recording in the car?

>> Yeah, I don't think so. And that's why a. lot of This is where it gets really. weird. So, there are lots of people in. the TCC community. And again, this is. not me saying like, "Oh, I'm part of the. TCC community, so I know what they're. saying." This is me saying like, "I was. diving into the TCC community to see. what it's about." And people were. saying, "Oh, they're not real TCCers. because they don't know that there's. cameras in the back of the police car.". But also real TCCers, from what I can. tell, they still like to post edits of. Adam Lasagna with eccentric Europunk.

music in the background with rainbow. edits because it's so quirky. And their. whole thing is like, why does me posting. rainbow edits of school shooters? Does. that make me dangerous? Um, yeah, Becky, it makes you dangerous. I don't. know what else to say now. Lois says. with a bit of regret in her voice. Dude, I should have gotten my diagnosis before. this. I've been talking I've been. talking about that being like, "Yeah, I. should go to a psychiatrist or something. and actually get diagnosed and.

I should have gotten gotten it. before all this happened and then I. would have some sort of thing to clean. it up." Isabelle's like, "Dude, I. thought I was going to get sent to the. psych ward. That's why I was so excited. about everything." Isabelle explains to. Lois that she just regrets telling the. officers everything. I shouldn't have. told them all this Like they Okay, so I was there and then they were asking. me about the swatting incident that. happened. >> So yeah, she was trying to get people. swatted. We're going to get there in a. second. And what happened and I started. crying because I thought that, you know,

they were going to feel bad for me and. send me to the psych ward because I was. like, you know, I thought about hurting. somebody. Yeah, I thought about hurting. the boy. And then they saw right through. my and then they pulled out, you. know, the bag from my backpack. I had to. tell them everything that was inside. Later she mentions, "Dude, I should have. told them that. I was gonna tell them. yesterday. I was gonna say, "Oh yeah, I'm doing all this stuff because I want. to be a police officer.". >> Please, I wanted to be a police officer. Please. >> And then she pretends to be the fake.

imaginary police officer she's saying. this to. And she's like, "No, sorry." So. she's like, "I should have told them. that I want to be a police officer.". Nope. I'm sorry. Okay. Like, this is how. they talk. That's the tone in which they. talk. Now, there's a lot to complain. about in the back of this police car as. well. Lois rants about how cold it was. in the room when they were talking to. her. It was so cold in that room. I. know, dude. They had me sitting there. and I was so dude, they took away my. chocolate. Isabelle, cuz remember. Isabelle is the one that primarily wants.

to kill John. Isabelle had asked Lois, the little artist, to bring chocolate. and Dr. Pepper. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Lois brings it, gives it to her. And now Isabelle is like, "The chocolate. you gave me, they took away my. chocolate." AND LOIS GOES, "NO, I WAS ABLE to like eat a part of it. It. was like a part of the big bar, but then. that was it.". >> Dude, they took away my chocolate. >> No, I was able to eat like a part of it. Like a part of the big bar. >> Lois is so upset and she's like, "Bro, I.

wanted to come back to second period so. I could have nibbled on some of it with. you. That was my main goal." Some. netizens have found it ironic that the. two are friends because Isabelle Valdez. is kind of a bigger girl I guess is how. you would describe her. And then Lois. Liippert, she had a Twitter account that. heavily promotes is pro Anna pro edges. in quote quote unquote fatso. Fatsbow is. basically described as quote fatsbow is. when people with EDS use a picture of a.

person bigger than themselves as. inspiration to continue with their. eating disorder or not becoming fat like. the person in the picture. So some. netizens found it ironic and they made. it a big joke of whether or not Lois. Liippard used her own friend Isbel. Valdez as fat spo. Essentially. everything about this case like makes. you want to spiral into a depressive. state. just every little rabbit hole. leads somewhere worse. But on Lois. Liippard's Twitter account, she would. post a lot of pro Anna things as well as.

she would document throwing up in the. toilet and then she would stick her hand. in the toilet bowl and play with her. throw up like it was slime and post. videos of it. There's also an unverified. Tumblr account and I cannot tell you if. this is real, okay? But apparently this. is Isabelle's unverified Tumblr account. where she posts, "I love being fat. Everyone is significantly smaller than. me and I love small people. I love small. boys. I love the thought of beating them. up and breaking their bones and then. just watching their bodies bruise. I. want to touch them all over. I want to. see them resist. Probably the first time. I felt these, dare I say, erotic.

pleasures was in or around [music]. fifth or sixth grade. I remember in. sixth grade, I would go up to people and. hug them tightly. I loved feeling them. push me away and struggle. I loved the. way they yelled at me after. We can't be. certain that this is Isabelle's account, but it's in tune with the picture of her. holding up John, almost like she's about. to slam him up against the wall. I don't. think that there's any debate that both. of these girls are struggling with. various mental health issues, but I do. think a lot of young girls at that age. are. They don't go and try to resurrect. a school shooter. These girls, they even.

giggle gaggle about what it must have. been like for John. Lois is giggling. Imagine being pulled out of class. And. yeah, some girl was planning on killing. you. He's probably going to be like like. he's he's got to be told. Like they. can't. And Isabelle is like, "Yeah, I. wrote him a note." And I was like, >> and I was like, "Yeah, I'm not guilty to. you for my actions, but no, I was like, I don't feel guilty for my actions, but. I feel guilty on how you were going to. feel, cuz honestly, I don't. care.". >> She gave him a letter. >> She wrote him a note, but I don't think.

it was I mean, it was never given to. him. Isabelle giggles and says, "So, are. we going to become one of those lesbian. couples now in jail?" Lois looks at her. Yeah, and you could be the butch. And. they're giggling. And Isabelle's like, "Yeah, hey, hey, this is my Stay. away. Yeah. >> They're doing that much in 30 minutes. >> Yeah. And then. >> they don't even catch a break. And. >> no, >> think about what's about to happen. >> No. And then there's silence, you know, which the lesbian couple love does not. last very long because when talking with.

the officers, Isbel already ratted Lois. out. She okay the police officer is even. writing in his report because usually. when you have teenagers and their best. friends and they're trying to commit a. crime, I would say that there's maybe I. want to say like 3 hours in which they. might resist ratting each other out. But. the police officer writes, "Isabelle. abruptly stated that Lewis helped her. sharpen the knife." Isabelle is. explaining to the officers and the. assistant principal that they were in. the bathroom trying to sharpen the. knife. And according to Isabelle, they.

ran the knife back and forth along the. metal pipe in the bathroom, and then. they were trying to use the knife to cut. Isabelle's shirt to determine if it was. sharp enough to do the crime. Lois then. attempted to cut her stomach in an. effort to see if the knife could cut her. skin. Isabelle stated that Lois told her. that she didn't think the knife was. going to be able to cut through because. it couldn't cut her stomach. But it's. not like Isabelle really needs to quote. unquote rat out Lois when there's. already quite a bit of digital evidence. against both of them. Isabelle's plan. was to either slit Jon's throat or stab.

him in the stomach. There was no getaway. plan. Then she was going to smoke a. cigarette in the bathroom before going. to jail and sprinkle flowers on his body. or to his funeral. It's kind of unclear. which one. But Isabelle the night before. had been messaging Lois over Discord. saying things like, "It's going to be. over by tomorrow. If you have some. gloves, bring them for me. Bring latex. ones. I'm bringing a trash bag, wipes, and some other things. I'm going to go. away anyway. I've incriminating on. my phone. Holy I'm going to make a. blood ritual for Adam Lansa. Lmo.

Everyone who prayed on my downfall is. getting their wish. I hugged my parents. extra tight today. I feel kind of bad. for what's coming. He was at fault. because he never got redacted to talk to. me. If I had him, I wouldn't have been. like this. Why? Why, John? Why? Why. redacted? Why? I need to break my hard. drive later. Do you have any extra white. shirts that I could use? And the two of. them are also Isabelle and Lois are. reportedly married on Facebook. >> What? >> Yeah, cuz you know how you can just like. marry someone. But that's not the. important part. The important part is. their anniversary date is April 22nd,

1992, which is an oddly specific date. So I tried to figure it out and it's not. the date of Sandy Hook or Coline. It's. actually Adam Lance's birthday. But in. the back of the police car, Isabella is. again ranting about how the police are. treating her like she's this dangerous. criminal. And she says, "Dude, they had. me going out to the bathroom and they. had this lady standing in the stall and. they had like two other people. >> in the stall.". >> No, not in the Yeah, one of them was. standing in the stall. The other two. were outside waiting. You think I'm. going to be able to run away? >> So, Isbell is making a joke at I guess.

her physique. I got too scared to ask. them to go to the bathroom. I lowkey. still have to go. So, by the way, Lois. Liippard kind of talks like this the. entire time. And Isabelle turns to her. I only went twice because they searched. me every time and they made me take off. my shoes and my socks off. Yeah, I'm. glad I didn't ask them. I don't want to. do all that. You gonna bend over and. cough for me? Bend over and cough for. you? Is that what they do it? Yeah. They. look at your and see if anything. comes out. Isabelle complains at how. uncomfortable it is to be in the back of.

the police car and states, >> "Dude, I should have done it in the. morning." So now she's saying in the. back of this recorded police car that. she should have killed him in the. morning and not waited till after second. period because if she had done it in the. morning she would have been able to kill. him. And Lois is like, "Yeah, dude. He. was right there. I was following behind. him. >> What is happening?". >> Yeah. Isabelle also talks about how when. they were interviewing her, she kept. laughing even though it's not funny, but. quote, "They kept on saying 67." Oh, I. laughed at 67, dude. because they were. talking about my grades and stuff when.

it first started and they were like, "Yeah, was the sixth or seventh grade?". I did the 67 behind my back. So, she's. handcuffed and she said she's doing 67. >> This is like I don't even know what is. happening. >> Yeah. Lois finds this so funny and she. says, "Stop making me laugh." Lois. explains later that she did mention to. one of her friends that Isabelle might. try to do something on Friday, which is. vague. and she reassures Isabelle. She's. probably thinking that you're going to. self-exit. Oh, that's stupid. I'm not.

self-exiting. Then in a voice that would. indicate maybe it's from a meme or. something, but she says, "Killing. yourself is for Rwords." She says the R. word. I'm not a stupid Rword that gives. up, please. >> Killing yourself is for retards. I'm not. a stupid that gives up. Please. I think I am though. >> I am rworded though. Lois tries to. comfort her. Not a stupid rword, though. Aw, thanks. One of the most damning. pieces of evidence against Isabella is a.

journal entry that's written in the. style of a bad movie plot where the. killer fesses up to the murder, hides. the note for it to be found by the main. character at the end in the bottom of. the underwear drawer, and it reads, "It. was just like any other normal day." I. swear nothing seemed off until I. remembered him. Oh, John, how much I. loved you. Today was finally the day. You're so worth it. We were. leaving second period. I grabbed him. I. don't know what happened, but I just. started talking. Oh, you're so. beautiful. The cutest boy around. I.

loved him dearly. I would ruin my life. for him. And that is very much what I. was doing. [music] I was able to get my. hands on some chloroform. It knocked him. out cold. It was absolutely perfect. I. was already in the bathroom with him. He. hadn't woken up yet, so I was just. waiting. He was so small, so [music]. precious. I'd been waiting for this for. a long time. Slowly, he woke up. I saw. those beautiful eyes I much adored. Finally, up close. [music] He was. absolutely perfection. "Hi, sweetheart,". I said without thinking. He looked.

extremely disturbed. I don't blame him. Who wouldn't? Lol. He didn't speak, just. [music] looked in terror. I pulled the. knife out of my bag and held it to his. throat. I saw the fear. I saw his breath. hitch. It gave me more adrenaline. And. she spells adrenaline. [music] A d r e n. a l y n. Adrenaline. I pulled my phone. out and started recording him. Can you. smile for the camera? I held the knife. closer to his throat. I watched as he. forced [music] himself to smile just for. me. And that is where she ends this. weird bizarre note. It's presented as if.

she wrote it after the fact in this. dramatized narrative form. >> Right. And the cop found the note. >> Yeah. It's like fanfic. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, the police found it and locked it. >> Yeah. And they're like, "Okay, well, you. wrote this note. You wrote one to your. parents detailing your exact motive. So, and you had a lot of the supplies that. you're talking about. >> Yeah. So, what is Lois's whole thing? Like, what's her motive? Does she have a. motive? Does she even care? What What is. she doing there?

>> I think she doesn't care. I mean, I. think she clearly is dealing with lots. of mental health issues. And I'm not. saying that as some sort of excuse. because, yeah, so did I at 14. She seems. more like the follower, though I don't. really like to give those labels, but. it's Isabelle has is the one with the. plan. I think if anything, maybe Lois. thought it would be cool that she would. go down in notoriety. Or maybe she. thought that Isabelle would never go. through with it. But if Lois was the one. to be like, "Oh, well, you can't do. that." Then maybe she wouldn't be seen.

as cool by her TCC community. And again, this is not to diminish any of the. impact that Lois Liippard had. It seems. as if Isabelle is the one more so. spearheading this. She's the one with. the very strong reasoning of why she. felt she wanted to kill Jon. But I think. it's also just as disgusting that Lois. is like, "Oh, I'm doing it for the. thrill and for the fun and like maybe. I'll be known in the TCC community. regardless." Despicable. And I think one. of the reasons that the investigators. moved so fast on this tip was well, it.

was their job. They had to, but also. they've had problems with Isabelle prior. to this. In fact, the police were at. Isabelle's house Thursday night for. something else. >> The night before? >> Yeah, the night before. >> The Okay. >> Okay. So, the night before the police go. to Isabelle Valdez's house because she. had been trying to do these like. swatting calls on people. There was like. three different swatting incidents. I. think she was trying to swat the school. or swat an individual at the school. It's a little bit unclear because. they're all minors, but there's swatting. incidents. Just know that. She's like. trying to get someone swatted. They.

come, they grab her phone. Now, Thursday. night, they go back to her house and. they're like, "Hey, we have your phone. We could do like we could get a warrant. and there's like so much paperwork or. you could just sign this consent form. Let us go through your phone." So, they. sign the consent form. The police leave. Thursday night. >> Uh-huh. >> They get a tip in early hours of Friday. morning and it's like the last few. sentences are, "Oh, I think their name. is Isabelle.". >> So, after the police took her phone, she's on Discord messaging. >> on her computer. Yes. >> On her computer messaging her friend.

saying, "I'm going to do this now. I'm. going to do it. I'm going to do it. >> Yeah. She felt like she was already. going to go away for the swatting. incident, so she might as well do it. now. Now is the only time that she can. do this. Lois even mentioned to her that. she's anxious planning and maybe she. shouldn't go through with it. But. Isabelle was like, "No, I'm going to go. through with it." And she even tells. another friend about it Thursday night. I think she told maybe it was just one, could have been more, but that one. person does end up sending in that. anonymous tip. >> I mean, that tip really saved John's.

life. >> Yeah. No, John's mom has done an. interview where she said the person I. mean she knows who made the tip and. she's spoken to that child and she says. the child is her hero. The hero. [laughter] of this story is the tipster. That person is the hero of my life story. and I've told them that. Now Isabelle. tells Lois in the car in the back of the. police car. I did write a note to my. parents. Did you write one to your. parents? Lois is like no you should. have. They said I'm going to be able to. contact my parents when I get there. Me,

too. I haven't talked to my parents yet. I don't know if my parents even know. what's going on. They don't. They. haven't contacted mine either. My mom's. going to be yelling at me through the. phone like, "What are you going to do? Why are you trying to kill this. kid?" Lois is like, "I think my mom's. going to be okay. I low key I lowkey. think she's probably going to with. it." When they asked me like, "Do you. really want to lie? Would your parents. really want you to lie for Jimmy?" Yeah, they would. Yeah. When they asked me. like, "Do you really want to lie? Would. your parents really want you lying for.

Jamie? LIKE, YEAH, THEY WOULD. YEAH. >> And then remember earlier in the car. ride while they were role playing. Coline, Isabelle looked out the window, gets distracted by the building, and she. says, "Hey, my sister goes to therapy. there." Then she starts going on this. like very bizarre trauma dump where she. says, "My mom's going to see the police. car." And she's going to be like, "Damn." And then when I call her, I'm. going to be like, "Hey, mama, that was. me in the police car. You see me?" And. she says, "You know, my mom was telling. me about this morning because she was. talking about somebody." And then she. was like, "Oh yeah, this girl I know,

she got criminal charges because she hit. somebody and drove away with her car.". And she was like, "Don't get any. criminal charges because that messes. with your record." I'm sorry, mama. Lois. is like, "I might get criminal charges, I guess." Which like it's okay. We get. them together. Okay. Yeah. Honestly, we're probably going to get a minimum of. what, four years or so. And this is when. Lois starts to get disgruntled because. Lois is the accomplice, right? So she's. like, "I'm not getting it for Yes, you. are. You helped, dude. I That was like.

I'm not kidding. I'm not just doing. that. Hey, by the time we're going to be. out, we could go to a community college. together. >> Yeah, I'm not going to go away for that. long. Low key. Probably a good thing you. didn't actually end up doing anything. because imagine I actually did a like, you know. So, it seems like Lois is very. disgruntled about the idea of getting. that many years. Later, the topic is. approached again when Isabelle says, "My. family isn't probably even going to. visit me. Man, I don't even. care. I'll visit you. Isabelle's. confused. Huh? I'll visit you. Huh? I'll.

visit you when I'm out. Before you? Shut. up. You're not getting out before me. How would I get a longer sentence than. you? It's redacted, but contextually. [music] it feels like Isabelle is. bringing up the fact that Lois helped. sharpen the knife and maybe they told. somebody. I don't know. But Isabelle is. like, "Dude, they said that they were. going to take photos in the bathroom as. evidence, dude." Like, I don't know what. they're going to take, though. Like it was the metal pipe. What are. they supposed to take there? >> Wait, so do we know how many years they.

are possibly facing? >> Oh, yeah. Like 20. >> for both? >> Yeah. >> Oh, they're treated the same. >> Yeah. I mean, it's attempted murder. Yeah. >> So, they both got the same charges. >> Yeah. >> For um Are they. >> tried as adults? Mhm. >> They're tried as adults. >> Oh, wow. >> And they were denied bond or bail. Yeah. >> So, this conversation was released. What. about like any interrogation? Any more. police? >> Not yet. I think that will probably be. released later. Um because technically. it's an open investigation. >> So it'll probably come out during the.

trial and then if you were to foyer. request it, you probably get all of that. after the investigation. >> But they released this. >> Yes. >> Already? >> Yes. Because they showed it to the. judge. >> Oh. >> yes. Yes. This this whole police tape. was shown to the judge to be like, you. cannot let them out on mail and that's. why it's allowed to be released to the. public. >> Interesting. [snorts] I guess I'm really. curious to know when is the moment that. they realize. >> Mhm. and when they truly flip on each. other. >> Yeah. Or truly realize. I wonder if it's.

going to happen anytime soon. >> It already seems like it because when. they were in the court hearing, they are. supposed to be separated. They're not. supposed to have any contact with each. other. The judge has already stated. that. However, they won't even like look. at each other. And maybe they won't look. at each other because their attorneys. were like, "Don't look at each. other." Or they don't like each other. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Which I would imagine cuz these are very. flimsy friendships that they formed on. the basis of what they're both dumb and. idiotic. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> And when they're talking about how at. least they're not school shooters.

because that would get them life in. prison. Isabelle asks Lois almost. nervously. Well, how long am I going to. get? I'm not going to get much time. And. again later, Lois brings it up again. And I think Isabelle doesn't like these. mentions because Lois mentions I'm. probably not going to like my. involvement is not that long. So I'll be. out before you. I'm probably not going. to get life in jail because my parents. are going to give me the best lawyers. they can. And the police finally. interject and they ask. >> this is the first time they.

>> Yes. >> jumped in. >> Young lady, what's your name? >> Which one? >> Uh Isabelle. >> Isabelle what? >> Valdes. >> Okay. All right. and your and your young. lady. >> Uh Lois Libert. >> It's very clear the officers are. listening to everything. And I also. think that asking for their names was a. good idea. I don't know if it would fly. in court, but it's a good idea in the. sense of these kids can't later say, "Oh, I was in a state of. psychosis." This was like shared. psychosis. We're losing our minds. It's.

like, "Tell me your name. Tell me your. date of birth. Okay, you're clearly in. somewhat of a right state of mind.". Because the types of things they were. saying, maybe a defense attorney would. later say, "Yeah, they were role playing. Coline. They were in a state of. psychosis.". >> Yeah. Yeah. And the fact that in the. middle of the conversation, he decided. to ask for their name when he already. has their name. >> Yes. They're in the back of the police. car. They've been arrested. Yeah. He. knows their names. >> Yeah. >> Wo. >> So, I think everything is very. intentional at this point. And it's very.

clear he's listening to everything. because at one point Isabelle later. later on Isabelle is talking in-depth. about I kind of need to fart. Lois is. like please don't dude I just keep. needing to take a over there and I. was so embarrassed because they kept on. coming into the stall with me and when I. sat down I felt like I had to and I. felt like it was going to come out. because I had diarrhea and I still have. it. And then it's silence and the. officer butts in don't mess up my seat. please. You'll be out here cleaning it. up. Oh no thank you. So Isabelle's like, "Okay, I'm not going to diarrhea. Oh, no.

thank you. >> Don't mess up my siege, please. >> You're out here cleaning it up.". >> Oh, no thank you. >> Dude, I used to have to clean This is. Isabelle. I used to have to clean up my. siblings because my mom would be. sleeping and my sister would literally. take off her diaper and she would put it. all over her bed. Dude, I think there was like a year or. two that she was like my mom was cooking. or while she was doing something, she. would take her diaper off and she would. pee on her bed. She would literally. spread her legs open on her bed and pee. Oh, your siblings are wildening. I know.

My brother keeps on humping everything. now. My mom tells him to stop and he. just keeps on doing it. And then he goes. he goes into my closet because I sleep. with my sister. I think I told you, right? He goes into my closet and he. puts on my sister's bathing suit. So, I. don't know. I think this seems like the. point where some people feel there might. be a lot more going on in Isabelle's. life clearly cuz the both the girls seem. to be struggling a lot mentally. Again, not that it's justification for. anything, but these are very specific.

stories she's sharing. Then later, Lois. mentions that she has to pee so bad, to. which Isabelle tells her that the police. officers aren't going to let her use the. restroom when they get to the police. station. To which Lois is like, "Dude, I. have to do the bathroom. I piss myself. They got to clean that up.". >> And Isabelle says, "Um, my mouth is. right here." There's a lot of overtly. sexual comments being made. Lois later. again mentions, "I did not expect them. to let us go into the same car and. Can't complain." Yeah, I'm not. complaining at all. So much better than.

having to stare off into the distance. and think of all your regrets. And then. Lois says, "I'm actually going to piss. myself. I can't laugh anymore." Yuck. It's bad. I've been holding it in for. like an hour. You've been horny for an. hour? No, I'm Oh, is it because I'm. here? Later, Lois is complaining about. how her strap keeps hanging off her. shoulder, and Isbel offers, "I'll pull. it up with my teeth. >> I'll pull it up with my teeth." Just. their entire demeanor in the car is I. mean, it's going to be a defense.

attorney's nightmare. At one point, the. both of them are talking about how the. comfort level of this car ride compares. to the last time they were in a police. car. It's like they're giving it Uber. car ride ratings. Isabelle says, "Dude, last time they didn't even put me in. handcuffs. They just sucked me. They let. me take my stuff, too. I was able to. take some of my little ponies, my plush, and my phone, but then they took my. phone away. They took all my stuff away. because they were like, "You can't have. this in here." So, I was like, "Okay, whatever." They are both charged with. attempted murder and possessing a weapon. on school property, and they will both. be tried as adults. During their court.

hearing, they don't nearly look as. giggly or as quirky as they did in the. back of the police car. They were both. present, but separated during the. hearing. Their parents were there. Lois's parents pleaded with the judge. that if Lois is released out on bail, she would not be able to have any access. to her electronics. She will be closely. monitored. The prosecutors argue. >> So, did did the parents get Lois the. best attorney that she claimed that. they're going to get her? >> Um, does not seem like it. I think. probably the best that they could,

>> but I don't think Lois's parents are. pulling in Brian Steel, you know, like I. don't think they're. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. which. >> but they are in the same jail. >> Yes. Mhm. >> Interesting. So they can talk to each. other freely then? >> No, they cannot. >> Oh, they cannot. >> Yeah. They're not allowed to be near. each other. They're not allowed to. communicate with one another. >> I see. >> Now, the prosecutors argue that the. young ladies exhibit callous nature, sociopathic attitudes. They say that the. concept of murdering another person to.

resurrect a school shooter is. unfathomable. and they show the judge. the police car footage to argue that. they cannot be released out on bail. The. judge states that their clear lack of. remorse proved that they were a danger. to society. She says, >> "I don't think there's anything that I. could do that would keep the community. safe. Um, and it's clearly a dangerous. crime. All the elements I think have. been met. The video that I watched, they. thought this was cute. I don't want her. on the internet talking to other young. folks about this. It's too dangerous.".

And. >> so, for that reason, I think that. there's a real risk to the community. that I just can't fix. And both of them. were denied bail. >> Yeah. That I mean, >> yeah, they would probably go back on. Tumblr and Twitter and say a bunch of. >> Yeah. >> The 15-year-old boy's mother has done an. interview and she's asked. >> to know that the allegations [music] of. two girls plotting the allegations of. them wanting to hurt and kill your baby, your son. As a mom, >> I was destroyed. I still am. It's never.

going to be the same. I've broken down a. lot. I still break down at work. >> By the way, she works at the school. So, yeah. I mean, she says, "I still haven't. been sleeping well. I haven't been. eating and I've been waking up on alert, high alert, like two, three times a. night." [music] As for her son, she. says, "He's so brave. He's so brave and. smart and talented. And the hero of the. story is the [music] tipster. And that. person is the hero of my life, and I've. told them that." If the tipster hadn't. made that notification, do you think.

your son would still be alive? I think. that. we would be in a very different No. >> To make [music] matters worse, like I. said, she works in that school and she. walks by the school bathroom where. Isabelle and Lois allegedly planned on. killing her son every day. Isabelle has. since written a letter to the judge. which reads, "Dear Judge Trace, first of. all, I want to say that I'm very. remorseful for my actions. Being away. from everything, isolated from people, the internet, just everything changed my. perspective on life. Growing up, I was.

exposed to the internet at a very young. age, and all of that was bad that. stemmed from it. The internet made me a. horrible, horrible person. I was groomed. and assaulted multiple times growing up. by people my own age and people older. than me. I've always denied anything. happening because I've always felt like. expressing this to anyone made me weak. Sometimes I still do. My own parents. don't even know about it. I was also. bullied growing up very severely that I. had been wanting to self-exit since I. was seven. I never expressed this. feeling because I felt like others would. not take me seriously since I was so.

young. I spoke out on the bullying, but. no one paid attention to whatever I. said, even if my parents spoke out. My. parents and my family tried to help me. growing up, but I never accepted it for. some reason. I don't know why, but I. always thought that they were against. me. I wanted help, but I couldn't accept. it when it came. Later on, this just. changed into thoughts of quote, "I could. never be loved." My parents tried their. hardest, and they wanted to give me a. better life than they ever had. They're. still trying their hardest, trying to. get me home. Around the age of 10, I. found joy in hurting those that hurt me,

which I don't anymore. And around 12, I. just enjoyed hurting others. But around. 12, I fell into a very, very deep. depression. She talks about how in 2024, she was getting better because she was. placed on a psychiatric hold. And then. in 2025, she relapsed and quote, "Aaround the same time, I had met Lois. Libert, my codefendant, and we both got. worse together. I ask and pray that you. have sympathy and compassion on her. In. 2022 2023, I joined this group called. TCC, which also had affected me greatly.

This group, they all promoted violence. I felt seen there, but in reality, it. was deteriorating me, I got groomed in. this community. She explains that she. joked around about killing Jon with. Lois. But later, because they were both. in such bad mental states, they thought. it was okay. Now, to explain about John, I used to like him a lot because he. reminded me of a shooter I liked, which. I no longer do. I have multiple forms of. anxiety. So, I never spoke to him in. fear of getting rejected. So, I started. following him around, which I'm deeply. sorry about now. When I was detained, I.

started acting recklessly and edgy. I. made everything worse than it was. because I wanted help. I wanted to paint. myself as more insane so I could be sent. to some place where I could get help. But obviously, it didn't work. As I've. been here, I've been thinking about my. life and my choices. And please ask you. to please have sympathy on me for I want. to change, and I'm changing as a person. I'm not the same girl I was 3 months. ago. I think it's a very conflicting. feeling because a lot of nizens feel. that at 15, you definitely know better. I mean, I think a lot of us can think.

back to when we were 15 and none of us. had any sort of glorification of school. shooters, wanting to resurrect somebody. from the dead, let alone Adam Lanza of. all people, and then trying to kill a. classmate, bringing a knife to school. Like these are all very extreme. thoughts, but I guess people are open to. perhaps listening to Isabelle's life. story, but they also don't think that. that's any excuse. >> It's just a way to understand her. actions and hopefully prevent other kids. from going through the same experiences.

and acting out in the same way. And I. don't mean to say acting out to diminish. the gravity of what they were planning. on doing, but you get what I'm saying. >> Yeah. I mean, honestly, the tipster also. saved their life. >> Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So, yeah. And I do. think that some netizens have an. annoyance with this and the letter in. general and any sympathy towards the two. girls because it's almost become this. weird thing where people in the TCC. community think that being bullied is an.

excuse to kill people. >> Like, it gives you sympathy points. And. it's like, do you know how many people. have been bullied growing up? It doesn't. give you the right to make grave quote. unquote mistakes in the form of taking. someone else's life. So, it's like, yes, okay, maybe she had a rough life, but. she was also planning on killing an. innocent classmate who did nothing. wrong. Not that even that would warrant. anything, but just because he looked. like someone that she idolizes that is a.

vile person to begin with. So, I think. that there's this push back of people. being like, "No, you know, I was. bullied. I'm not going around. trying to resurrect people." That is. where the case is right now with nizens. commenting, "What the How did they. even come up with this?" Others are. commenting, "The conversation in the. back of the car is so casual." Others. are saying they're laughing as a defense. mechanism for being arrested. They're. coping with it by laughing it off. It's. likely how they respond to any other. situation in which they're caught for. doing anything else that's wrong. Or. when they're being laughed at themselves.

or being excluded, humiliated, bullied, whatever. As a teacher, I recognize the. same behavior in students who know that. they're going to bomb a test or don't do. their homework or otherwise get called. out. They'll announce it loudly like, "Man, I'm about to fail this test's so. bad," or something like that. It's all. about saving face, and the behavior. becomes so ingrained that it becomes the. default. They can't be seen to ever take. anything seriously about anything that. others take seriously because it's the. only way for them to win in so many. situations that they repeatedly lose. I.

don't say [music] this as an excuse for. them, but yeah, I totally recognize. those laughs. Others say they always. laugh when they first get caught, but. then they cry when the guilty verdict is. read out. Others are just commenting, "Yeah, these kids definitely grew up on. Discord." Others are saying, "You. dropped your crown queen, and it's just. [music] like a dumpster lid." Always the. weird looking ones. These are comments. Anyone who works in, near, or is friends. with someone in schools understands this. is not shocking. And about her Sandy.

Hook obsession, one person writes, "What. a weird obsession. I mean, you could. have done something productive with your. passion, like volunteer to help those. affected by gun violence, but instead. you did this. Shame on you." Others are. upset about Fox Fever, saying, "I refuse. to believe she's Fox Fever. I love their. art so much." One, yeah, >> she's famous in the the community that. loves Zero Day. And then another comment. states, "She suffered from extreme. mental illnesses. All the adults in her. life failed her. She had a Twitter. account dedicated to having an ED where. she would post pictures of her throwing.

up into the toilet bowl after. Like, I. feel bad. Others say, "I'm not even mad. I'm sad these girls need help badly. How. did they even get to this point mentally. without someone intervening is. heartbreaking? Heartbreak emoji. You can. tell they have no idea the big picture. of [music] what they just did." Others. are on the complete opposite side, writing, "Death penalty to these ugly. weirdos." Which is a bit extreme. Another one writes, "They're teenagers. Their brains aren't fully formed, and. they'll just go along with just about. anything to fit in. My guess is one of. them had deep-seated issues and mostly.

pushed the idea forward. And the other. one has issues of her own, but just. mainly went along with it. To which. someone responds, "Okay, but they still. sound way less sane than most. teenagers." But also, there's just. really alarming comments like about the. girls who wanted to kill that boy to. revive Adam. If I saw a dude who looked. just like Adam, I'd want to date him. like no need to kill him for real. So. that is where I leave you with this. case. I will let you know if there's any. updates with any of the future court.

hearings and the pending trial if they. plead not guilty. So or if they're not. going to get a plea deal. What are your. thoughts on this case? Yeah, let me know. in the comments. Stay safe and I'll see. you in the next one. Please. First name at Neil. Last name.

>> Thank you. Hey Britney. Um, do you know where Beth. is? >> No. >> Sorry. >> Is it back?

>> Yeah. You do me a favor. Go ahead. Stand. up. Put your hands behind your back. Just going to tighten these just a. little bit. Okay. >> Don't move. You start twisting your your. hands, it'll get real tight on it. >> Okay. So, just leave your hands. >> You all right? >> Yeah. >> You need me to loosen it? Which one?

>> It's okay. It's just I got to like the. back of the thing. >> Come on up. this way. >> I think we're going. >> out out this way. >> That way it gives the. >> Okay. So, we're waiting for the other. I'm just going to bring them both at the. same time. >> Okay. >> Have they explained what's going on? >> He's coming.

>> Have they explained to you? >> So, unfortunately, you are under arrest. Um you're being charged with attempted. firstdegree murder. >> Okay. Um, and that's premeditated. Uh, you're going to be transported to. jail and then you'll be able to get in. contact with your parents here. Okay. But we are going to call your parents. and let them know what's going on. >> Okay. >> Her stuff's evidence.

>> Okay. >> We're going to head out. Yeah, but we're. just waiting at the same time. >> You going to do the same or different. cars or same car? >> Same car. Just waiting. The other one. will walk out in front. >> I see. You need me to come with you? >> What's that? >> You need me to come with you? >> I don't think so. We got.

stuck on. >> Yeah. for a search or not. >> Yes, please. >> Good.

building on building six. Thank you.

going to do a quick check on you real. quick. >> I'm going to touch at the sheriff's. office. I know a few times padded down. by the stool because you're getting in. the back of your car. I have to strike. you again. Do you have anything hidden. on you that may have been missed? >> No. >> Okay. If they find something that's.

hidden that we don't find, um, you will. get an extra charge at the gas. Okay. >> Sorry. Hey, once we at least get them in the.

car, we'll go back and get their bags. >> By here, when you while you drive the. bag, church said evidence. >> Oh, they're taking the bags up their. >> So, they don't need their book bags. All right, have a seat.

>> You okay? >> Yes. you um. >> okay. wise. just transport. >> okay um I'm running out temperature.

there's a narrative that's in it right. now but it's just the first contact now. >> I'll just tell. >> um do you got the salary port info like. the website. >> on my computer. >> yeah can you start working on. Yeah. >> Is that. >> And they're um they're both in the. report already. >> That's her charge. The second one. >> Yeah. Uh got to talk to church about.

that. >> Get my laptop and come back down. >> Okay.

Do you have anything hidden on you that. may have been missed? If they find something that's hidden. that we don't find, you will get an. extra.

>> Oh, sorry. Hey, once we at least get them in the. car, go back and get the bag. >> Oh, they're taking the bags as evidence.

>> Yeah, bags are evidence. >> So, they don't need their book bags. All. right. Got a seat. >> Wait. Okay. >> Okay.

>> Lois. We'll do um. >> Okay, perfect. Um. >> report wise. just it's student transport. >> Okay. >> Um 99% sure at least let me talk to. church. There's a narrative that's in it. right now, but it's just the first. contact. >> So I'll just tell them it's just.

>> um you got the info. >> Can you put my. Is that better? >> Yeah. >> Good. >> Yeah. >> All right. And have a seat, please. >> Are we going to be in the same one? >> What do you mean same one? >> Same jail. >> Yeah. >> All righty. [laughter].

>> I know. No, they asked me for his phone. passcode. >> Wait, they went through his phone? >> No, they're going to go through his. phone. Oh my god. >> Yes. I told him he knew. He didn't. report me. I told him already.

He did a tip. >> There was a tip. There was a tip shown. Did y'all see it? >> Someone tipped. >> He snitched. >> I don't get why I wouldn't tell the. police. He put did a tip though. >> Huh? >> Did a tip though. Cuz that I It was. anonymous tips. If I was just assuming. the writing. >> Yeah. >> Just like. >> it was. >> Yeah. >> Oh my god. God, I knew I. shouldn't have told him cuz he was like,

"Oh, can you please tell me I can't. sleep tonight?" you, God. >> Probably 14:00. >> Oh, yeah. I got shown a tip and it was. like, "Uh, my friend, a 15-year-old, uh, named uh, he goes by Jimmy is going is. planning to kill some dude.". >> Yeah. And it was like I don't really. remember their real name, but I think it. was Isabelle, >> bro. Yeah, it was spelled wrong, too. So,

>> God, >> she's such a snitch. >> That's That's immediately who I thought. when I saw that. tip. >> 879. >> So stupid. So heavy. So cold in that room. Which I know, dude. They had me sitting there and I. was so Dude, they took away my. chocolate. No, >> I was able to eat like a part of it. Like a part of the big bar. >> Oh, okay. >> But then that's it.

>> Were you able to eat? Damn it. Oh, bro. I wanted to come back to second period. so I could have like nibbled on some. with you. I was like this was my main. goal. >> Because like they spent like an hour at. the beginning just like trying to. They're. ruining that. Like, dude, they pulled up. the security cameras and stuff like.

>> Yeah, that was the first time I've ever. seen. I was actually I wanted to see so. much more. I was like, whoa, look, I'm. on the cameras there. >> It was so cool. I was like, damn. I. forget there's just like videos. >> Yeah, like that. >> Or like there. Hey, I'm not a school shooting at least. >> We'd be in prison for life. >> Yeah. >> How long am I going to get? >> I'm probably not going to get that much.

time. How are you? Gosh. Gosh. Ow. I moved my ants. Ow. These are lowkey. more comfortable than us.

>> It'll make it hurt. Got to keep it. still. >> These are more comfortable to stay. still. >> God. >> These are more comfortable than the the. last car I was in. Police car. I was I. had my things behind my back, but like. they had it like really bad and I. had to like go into like crazy positions. to feel comfortable and it was an hour. long car ride. >> Dude, last time they only had they. didn't even put me in handcuffs. They. just took me and they let me take my. stuff, too. I was able to take like some. my little ponies, my plush, and my. phone. >> Oh, >> but then they took my phone away. They.

took all my stuff away cuz they were. like, "You can't have this in there.". So, I was like, "Okay, whatever." I. wasn't giving I was I don't think I had. anything on me, but I got my uh shirt. taken away. cuz I No, I think it like went off the. sleeve a little bit. >> Uhhuh. >> And I guess that wasn't allowed. >> Yeah. Veriscuous. >> We're going to become one of those. lesbian couples now in jail. >> Yeah. And you could be the butch. >> Hey. Hey. This is my Stay away. >> Yeah.

Oh, you trying to look good for your mug. shot? >> Oh Am I going to get a mug shot? >> Well, we're going to Jay or what do you. think? >> Oh, yeah. That's crazy, >> dude. I was going to do my makeup this. morning for the mug shot, but I couldn't. find anything. >> I'm glad I don't actually look too bad. today. >> I look horrible. >> It's over. >> And don't worry, you don't need I'm. Don't worry. You're the butch. It. doesn't matter if you look. >> Hey, at least they're going to see they. were going to see me some way or another. in the mug shot.

Dude, we're supposed to spread our story. around the TCC though. Hey. Oh, these are two stupid retards. from Florida that couldn't do not. This. was a not working. >> So for you, little boy. Oh, >> dude. I I was thinking like while I had.

time to think after, you know, just like. I was like like I don't know how they're. going to like imagine imagine being. pulled down. >> Yeah. Some girl is ready to kill you. like like he's probably going to be like. he's got to be told like you can't. they're going to I wrote him a note and. I was like yeah I'm not guilty you for. my actions but no I was like I don't. feel guilty for my actions but I feel. guilty on how you were going to feel cuz. honestly I don't care.

>> no cuz. >> but like you know I should at least try. and. >> but I did write a note to my parents Did. they like Do you write one? >> You should have one. >> They said I'm going to be able to. contact my parents when we get there. >> Me, too. >> I haven't talked to my parents yet. I. don't even know if my parents know. what's going on. >> They don't. They haven't found mine. either. >> At least. >> My mom's going to be yelling at me.

through the phone. What are you doing? Why are you trying to kill this. kid? >> I think my mom's going to be okay. >> Yeah. Lo, she probably with like. when they asking me when they ask me. like, "Do you really want to lie? Would. your parents really want you lying for. Jamie? Like, yeah, they would. Yeah. >> They made me swear to tell the truth. Hey,

At least at least we're here together. now cuz I shot and I. >> Hello. There another car behind us. >> Huh? >> Another police car behind us. >> Of course, I'm not that dangerous. What.

am I supposed Dude, they had me going. out to the bathroom and they had this. lady standing in the stall and they had. like two other people. >> in the stall. No, not in the Yeah, one. of them was standing in the store. The. other two were outside waiting. You. think I'm going to be able to. run away? >> Yeah, I got too scared to ask go to the. bathroom. I l to go. >> I only went like twice because they. searched me every time and they made me. take my shoes and my socks off. >> I'm glad I didn't ask them cuz I don't. want to do all that. >> You going to bend over and cough for me?

>> Bend over and cough for you? >> Yeah, that's what or. >> is that what they do at a. >> Yeah. And then you they look at your. and see if anything comes out. >> Wait, did they do it to you? >> I don't know. I haven't gone to jail. >> Oh, jail, dude. I thought you meant at. the stalls or something. You think I'll be able to fix my hair or. you think I'll be in prison handcuffs. for this? >> Yeah, still handcuffs. >> Really? But don't you got to put up like.

that uh number thing? >> I think that's only it shows. So stupid. My hair doesn't look too bad. It's. finally showing. But I asked my mom to. do it last night and she was like, "No.". Mom, if you did what I was doing, you. would have done it for me to make me all. look all pretty for my mug shot. >> Yeah. >> God, I dyed my hair beforehand. Dude, it was.

probably not going to like like I my my. involvement's not that long. So, I'll be. I'll be out before you. I'm probably not. even a good life to go to jail. I'm. going to my parents are going to get me. as low as I can. that. Like. >> Yeah. But. >> young lady, what's her name? >> Which one? Uh Isabelle Valdez. >> Isabelle what? >> Valdes. >> Okay. All right. And your and yours,

young lady? >> Uh Lois Libert. >> Dude, I should have got my diagnosis. before this. I was I was I've been uh. talking I've been talking about that. being like, "Yeah, you know what? I. should go like or something. I would. actually. get night busy I should have done. that. I should have got this all. happened and then I would have like uh. some some sort of thing to clean my.

like really dude. Dude, I thought I was. going to get sent to the. psychord. That's why I was so excited. about everything. You think I would be. so jolly if I was going to jail? >> Yeah, I was kind of assuming you they. were warning it like you were going to. go to psychore. I know, but I shouldn't have told them all this. Like they Okay, so I was there and. then they were asking me about the. swatting incident that happened and um. I was I started crying because I thought.

she was going to feel bad like and sent. me to the psych word cuz I was like I. thought about hurting someone. Yeah, I. thought about hurting this boy. And then. they saw through my So I was like, "Yeah.". >> And then they pulled out the bag for my. backpack. >> I had to tell them everything that was. inside. You didn't know? Um, they also. saw the drawings. >> Oh, yeah. I told them I told them about. that. I told them like, "Yeah, I did. some weird drawings for I didn't.

actually tell the full thing till like. 10:30, I think.". >> Yeah, they made me tell everything that. was in the drawings. >> Oh, can you remind me of the drawings? Let me just know what they went through. [laughter]. >> Dude, did they comment on it? They were like, "This is really good." They say, >> "Yeah, they said you're quite the. artist." And I was like, "No, that's my. friend Louis's." [laughter]. [snorts]. >> Hey. >> Hey, let's role play some Coline uh. stuff. Hey. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Wait, who's Eric?

>> Well, obviously be Eric cuz Eric. obviously gets it up the ass. >> Okay. Um Hey, Eric. Oh. off, kitty balls. >> Hey, kitty, please talk to me. >> You probably don't even know about KF MD. FDM. >> Um, yes I do. Flash is my KFDM shirt. off. Oh, wow. You know about KFDM? >> Um, yes. >> Um, I feel something in my pants. [laughter].

>> Hey, what if you have my Jewish babies. inside you? >> Um, I hate Jews. No. >> What's wrong with you, Eric? Please, please. >> Okay, fine. Don't feel that door's. nerves with me. >> Uh, stick it up through your butt. Hey, my sister goes to therapy over here. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. Hey, mama. I was going to see the. police car. She's going to be like, damn. And then when I call her, hey, Bubba, that was me in the police car. You see me? >> I've never been here. I don't.

Yo, I'm so sad. This is falling off. cuz they're getting sweaty. >> Um, proof. >> Please calm down. >> Oh, this is much more comfortable. Dude, I missed I should have done it in the. morning. >> Yeah, dude. He was right there. I was. following behind him.

cuz no they came back. I told them like. you know the important stuff and then. and then they came back they were like. I'm getting really pissed off you're not. telling me everything. I was like I. swear I literally I that's all I. remember. So, I had to like sit there. for like a few minutes like just trying.

to remember every thing and. every little detail. And I was. like, "Oh, there are these images of. Adamanza." And. >> I dude, I had to I like forgot what to. say halfway through my interview. >> That's That was me for the most of the. interview. >> Yeah. >> Well, actually, like half the interview. was me being just like silent and not. doing cuz I was hoping like I can just. cling on to uh you have the right to. remain silent. But lucky that didn't. that didn't really work cuz. >> I know because like when Oh, they're. going to use it against me in court.

Hey, why you have these drives with this. little boy? >> Um, sorry. >> You're not little boy. He's older than. you. No, he's not. Well, oh, yeah. >> Yeah, he's older than you. It's not some. little boy. You They can't use They. can't say it's the little boy. This. older boy. This older boy who's abusing. me. >> Um, yeah. I think uh in my dreams he. told me that he wanted me to kill him. So I think it's only fair, you know.

>> Yeah. Oh my god, I almost laughed and I. almost beat myself. >> Dude, um when they were interviewing me. for the swatting, they kept on saying. this dude um this dude's user and it was. laugh. [laughter] and I felt so bad cuz I was. like this isn't nothing to laugh about. But I kept on laughing. They. kept on saying 67. >> Oh, I love 67, >> dude. Because they were talking about. like my grades and stuff. Like when it.

first started, they were like, "Yeah, was this in sixth or seventh grade?". >> Wait, I did 67 behind my back. Six, seventh. [laughter]. >> Yo, stop making me. >> I [snorts] need to cough. [cough]. You cap on me. >> Um, you weirdo. >> Oh, >> kind of need to fart. >> Please don't. [laughter]. >> Dude, I needed to take a over there. and like I was so embarrassed cuz they.

kept on coming into the salt with me. And when I sat down, I felt like I had. the and I felt like it was going to. come out cuz I had diarrhea. I still. have it. >> Don't mess up my seat, please. Should we get there out here cleaning it. up? >> Oh, no thank you. >> We got to go to the bathroom when we get. there. >> I just have to clean up my siblings.

because. my No, my mom would be sleeping and my. sister, she would literally take her. diaper off and she would put it all over. her bed. >> Oh, >> dude. And before I think it was like a. year ago or two that she would go um. while my mom was cooking or while she. was doing something she would take her. diaper off and she would pee on her bed. Like she would literally spread her legs. open on her bed and pee.

>> Your siblings are wild then. What the. >> I know. And my brother keeps on humping. and everything now. >> Oh, >> my mom tells him to stop and he just. keeps on doing it. And then he goes he. goes into my closet cuz I sleep with my. sister. I think I told you, right? >> Yeah. >> He goes into my closet and he puts on my. sister's bathing suit. >> Oh, you're so older brother core. Look. at them over there. So older brother. core. >> So brother core. >> Oh,

look at us. >> I What is this place? >> Sorry. >> I just look at the buildings. They look. cool. >> I told them about the cigarettes, too. >> Yeah, me too. >> Okay, what you tell them? >> Oh, so evil, dude. I didn't even get to smoke. them. So bad. What have I ever vaped in my. life? And that's it.

>> Smoke is not all that good. Dude, my mom was telling me about this. this morning cuz she was like um she was. talking about somebody and then she was. like, "Oh yeah, this girl I know um she. got criminal charges because uh she hit. somebody and she ran drove drove away. with her car and she was like, "Don't. get any criminal charges cuz then she. messes up your record." What's wrong. with you, mama?

>> My hands are fall asleep. >> I might get criminal charges, I guess. >> But okay, we got through them together. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I already got suspension on my list of. criminal charges. Dude, we're probably going to be Well, no. But what? >> Honestly, we're probably going to get. like a minimum of what, four years or. so? I'm not getting it for you. >> Yes, you are. You helped, dude. I That. was like I'm not getting I'm not doing.

that. >> Hey, by the time we're going to be out, we could go to a community college. together. >> Yeah. [snorts]. I'm not going to be away for that long. Okay. Probably a good thing you didn't. uh actually. end up doing anything because imagine if. I actually did like uh. you told them. I would have got him. I I would I would.

actually probably. >> I'm a I'm a cutting pro. >> Can't they tell? Isn't that what they need the pictures. for? Pictures of my scars. So, I'm a. cutting pro. That's why. >> Dude, they asked me like every single. person. They were like, "Does this. person cut? Are they a cutter?" Like. every single person. >> Who? And who did you say yes to? >> I said yes to you. >> And who? Who else? >> I think that was it.

>> Okay. >> Cuz I took them. Oh, they asked me. I feel like anybody that I mentioned. like they brought bro. >> Why? Because because I I didn't even. mention her like like naturally. It was. just like.

about what I was going to do. >> I I was vague with it. >> Oh, >> I just told them you told her. >> Well, I told them I I just told them. like. I just I told them I you know I I didn't. like. >> What did you tell her? >> I told her like uh Yeah. If something. happens on a Friday, if.

>> Jimmy does If Jimmy does something, you. probably think you were going to kill. yourself, though. >> Oh, this is stupid. I'm not killing myself. >> Killing yourself is for retards. I'm not. a stupid that gives up, please. I am though. >> I'm not a stupid though. Okay, >> thank you. Why are you touching me with. your butt? This is such a bonding experience. I. love this.

>> Dude, if I have to be in a room where. they have to like record me or some. I'm going to um I'm going to pull. out my tits so that it's CP. That's what I was thinking. Like if if. they had to start doing that instead of. just doing like the audio recording, I. was like, I'm going to pull up my like. so. >> But that is um what's that thing called?

Um public um in. >> bro do publicity like. >> indeent or what is it called? Indecency. >> I don't know. >> I was supposed to be a forensic. candalist. Please, >> please. I wanted to be a police officer. Please. Dude, I should have told them that. I. was going to tell them that yesterday. Like I was going to say, "Oh yeah, I'm. doing all this stuff cuz I'm going to be. a police officer." Um, no. I'm sorry.

Okay. >> Dude, I really thought I was going home. today. Me? >> Well, I didn't think I was going home, but I at least thought, "Oh, yeah. I'll. go to the psychord. >> I thought I thought I was going out. I. was I was I was I was Yeah. You want to. come over? >> I said maybe wants to come visit you. >> Oh, yeah. I should.

bro. Do you think mommy going to let me? >> Oh, no way. If she finds out you're in. jail, then my family isn't probably going to. even visit me, >> man. I don't even care. >> I'll visit you. Okay. >> Huh? >> I'll visit you. I Huh? >> I'll visit you when I'm out before you. >> You're not going to be out before me. >> How would I get a longer sentence on. you? >> Uh cuz.

dude, they said they were going to go. take photos in the bathroom as evidence. Dude, I don't know what they're going to. take, though. It was on the. metro pipe. What are you supposed to. take there? >> Yeah. >> When did they call you uh uh down from. the geometry?

>> Like. >> like how long after I got called down? >> I said I needed like 5 10 minutes. >> Oh, okay. Dude, when I was there, I. texted um. I wasn't able to see what she responded. cuz uh they took the phone, but I saw. that um. uh what's it called? That she had. responded to messages. >> Did you give them my phone? >> They took your phone.

>> Yeah. >> Not my phone. Your phone. Stupid. >> I know. Yeah. Yeah, I was wondering. I was like, damn, when they go check my backpack, I wonder. if she's going to hold on to my phone. I had it. And at first I was going to. hide it, but then I was like, damn, they're going to search me anyways. >> Yeah, they're going to search you. anyways. >> So, I just gave it to them. I gave it to. them when I was going to the bathroom. cuz I I was going to try to hide it to. go to the bathroom, but. >> my my butt, [laughter].

>> but they were going to search it when I. went to the bathroom. Well, search me. So, I just gave it to them. Hey, look. I. think we're here. >> Oh, good. I need to go to the bathroom. I'm. >> not going to let you pee pee. >> Dude, I got to do the bathroom. I pissed. myself. They got to clean that up. >> Um, my mouth was right here. [laughter]. At least we're going to the same place. >> Yeah, I did not expect us to let us let. us like go in the same car and. >> Don't complain. >> Yeah, I'm not complaining at all.

So much better than just having to stare. off in the distance and and uh think of. all your regrets. >> Oh, mama, please. I do feel bad for my. mama. That's the only person I feel bad. for and you. I feel bad for your mama, too. So, I feel bad. And I'm going to be gone. He's probably. going to be so worried.

You need a ton. >> Oh yeah. Hey, it's going to be um Yo, >> I should I should never wear an army. shirt. >> I know. you. I shouldn't have told him. God. Hey, look. You want to walk to the top. of that tower? How you doing, little. kiss? >> Yes.

Ow. This hurts so much. I need to pee. >> What? >> I need to pee. >> Shut up. >> Shut up. >> Shut up. I'm going to hit you. Um, you can't hit me. >> Yes, I can. Come here. Come here. Move.

over here. I'm going to hit you in the. head. Come here. Come here, Lois. Come. here. Come here. >> Stop. I'm actually going to piss myself. or laugh anymore. >> Yuck. >> Bad. I've been home for an hour. >> You've been horny for an hour. >> No. Oh. Is it because I'm here? >> Yeah. I told them how much I hated.

>> Yo, why did you do that? >> I'm just kidding. They But they did ask. me, so I told them, yeah, he had some. recipes for some things, but I wasn't. sure what it was. Oh, >> okay. And then they were like, I dude I was. jail. No, that's so bad. >> Alamont Springs two. Yo. Yo,

>> they were asking. what' you say? What' you say? >> I can't lie. >> I don't even think he has anything like. actually. Like the worst thing is like. >> what? Oh. >> Oh, that's not that bad. >> I know, but you can still get arrested. for that cuz I accidentally said it, but. then I had to like take it I had to take. it back that I had on my phone cuz they. were. >> cuz they take that seriously even.

though. >> still charges. Hey, we're here. >> Oh, finally I can piss. >> I've been right here the whole time. It. >> was in the other cop car though. It lost us. We were too fast. >> I hope I'm able to pull this up this. sweater up. I have it hanging the whole. time.

>> I'll pull it up with my teeth. >> Don't I need two officers to hold us? >> Both of us. They're. >> not even. help. Let me out. Let me out. problems. I pissed myself. I think he's going to vote us for the. sake. This is so boring,

bro. I'm literally going to piss myself. You need to wait. on out and just. Hey, you better not run away. You better. not run.

>> Yep.