13 yr old Girl & 45 yr old Housekeeper KILLED In Locked House - Police Suspects "Secret Affair”

Barti rang the doorbell. Barti rang the doorbell of the dentist's. home. It's Friday morning, 6:00 a.m. I. mean, yeah, it's kind of early, but they. hired her to be here, so she's kind of. confused why nobody's answering the door. for her. She's looking around, tapping. her foot. Hello? Ding. She rings it again. No answer. Now, usually the live-in staff member, Hemraj, opens the door for her, but I. don't know, maybe he's off today. She's. starting to get anxious because she has. a whole list of other people's houses.

that she has to clean all day long, and. she's supposed to finish the dentist's. house in the morning. Ding. She's only been working here for the. past week, and she's thinking, I think I. have a good eye for people. I mean, they. don't seem like the type to just leave. in the middle of the night or be out. partying so hard that they don't make it. back until the morning. The homeowners. are two dentists in their mid-40s. They've got a 13-year-old daughter at. home. Maybe they're just sleeping in. Maybe. they're scrambling to answer the door.

Barti reasons with herself, and in the. meantime, she's thinking, I'll just be. extra efficient. I can go grab the mop. from outside, and by the time that I get. back, Nupur, the mom of the house, is. going to open the door for me. And there she is, standing at the other. side of the door. I can't let you in. To get into the Talwars' house, you need. to get past three doors. The first is. like an iron grill door, so you can see. through it, but it's really heavy. It's. almost like a gate. Once you get past. that, you walk into a small enclosed.

hallway with two doors presented in. front of you. You've got one on the. right that is the door to the live-in. staff member's room. So, that's Hemraj's room. It connects to. the hallway, but also into the main. house. Then you have in front of you two. more doors. You've got a mesh door. Once. you pass through that, there's one final. wooden door that you have to pass. through, and now you are standing in the. residence. Nupur opens the wood door, but not the. mesh one, and she's staring at Barti, and she's like, could you open the door.

for me, please? Like, Hemraj wasn't. around. I need to go inside, and I need. to clean. Nupur could not open the door. The mesh door has a two-way lock. It can. be bolted from the outside, meaning. Nupur could only unlock the door from. the inside, but if someone doesn't have. the key from the outside, they can't. unlock it from the outside. Both sides. need to be unlocked for you to be able. to get inside. Someone locked the door from the. outside? Yeah, which is normally how it works. Like, I guess they lock themselves in, but they can also open it from the.

inside. Mhm. Like, unlock it. It's a. little complicated. So, you're saying this door requires two. Yes. ways to be unlocked. Yes. So, someone locked it from the outside. and technically left. Yes. And whoever's inside is being. locked inside. Yes. But technically, you could go. through Hemraj's room, and then you'll. be outside the mesh door, and you could. unlock it. So, it's not like you're. trapped inside. Now, Barti does not have. the key. Nupur tells Barti, maybe you. can wait until Hemraj gets back. I think. that he just went to go get some milk, and then he's going to unlock the door.

for you. Barti's like, I don't have that kind of. time. This is not the only house on my. schedule today. I need to get it moving. I'm sure you have another set of keys, Mrs. Talwar. Could you just toss it out. your balcony? I could unlock it and. start coming inside and cleaning. I mean, it's not a bad idea, but I. wonder if it's an idea that Barti would. regret having. Nupur, the mom, went up to the balcony. and threw the keys down. Barti opens the. doors, walks into the home, and. suddenly, it's chaos. Nupur, the mom,

who had just moments ago tossed her the. keys from the balcony, was now. hysterical. Rajesh, the father, was. banging his head on the wall, and. Barti's initial thought was, oh my god, they were robbed. Nupur, the mom, comes. up to Barti, throws her arms around her, and starts crying, and she's like, what's wrong? What's wrong, Mrs. Talwar? Is everything okay? Why are you sobbing? Nupur just kept pointing at one of the. rooms. Go. Go. Go inside and see what. happened. Barti walked into the room, and there,

laying on her bed, was the family's. 13-year-old daughter, dead. With her throat slit from ear to ear. They call this the JonBenét Ramsey case. of India. In the end, five people will. be arrested for her murder. Two. convicted, two released, and rumors of. wife-swapping parties, blackmail, affairs, honor killings, revenge, and. obsessed admirers are just going to. start circling the media. The only thing. that we know for certain in this case. is, whoever her killer or her killers.

are, they are free. So, let's get into the locked house. mystery of the Noida double murders.

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but really quick, before we get started, this case is currently unsolved. There. are so many speculations and citizen. theories available and pulled from the. internet. Almost every case detail can. be spun to fit each theory as many of. the testimonies and reports have changed. over the times. And though there has. been no legal resolution at this time. that the episode has been published, there was this very informative book on. the case by Avrook Sen titled Aarushi. Some would argue that his work favors. the parents, so with that being said, we.

have done our best to remain as neutral. as possible and have pulled from other. sources as well. Our source material was. translated by professional researchers, but again, as always, please let us know. in the comments if anything is. misrepresented or lost in translation, or if you have any additional. information on this case, or even just. your opinion, I would love to know in. the comments. This case also discusses. the suspected essay of a minor, so. please watch at your own discretion. A lot of the evidence that we talk about. today has been tampered with and/or. contaminated. And even the people who.

were involved in the collection of. evidence, they seem to have strong. biases of who they think committed the. crimes. So, it's really hard to separate. the bias from the facts. After. thoroughly researching this case, we. still feel like we have no idea who did. it. And again, we are not here to. persuade, investigate, or push an agenda. towards a particular theory. We have no. political, emotional, personal, mental. skin in the game on this one. We just. want to share the facts of this case. through purposeful storytelling in hopes. of doing both victims justice.

So, with that being said, have you ever been to one of those. murder mystery escape rooms? Oh, yeah. Where you have to go room to room. gathering all the clues, and only when. you solve the mystery can you escape the. game, right? May 16th, 2008, the Talwar. house had turned into a murder mystery. game. Neighbors, family members, friends, random people who see a. commotion outside the house, they just. started walking in through the open. front door. They start going from room. to room. They walk through the entire. home, even where 13-year-old Aarushi is.

laying dead in her bed, and they're all. gathering their own little clues. It's not fenced off? No. It took the police 1 hour to arrive at. the residence. For that hour, the crime. scene was more of like a. solve-it-yourself murder mystery game. with friends, family, press, neighbors, curious strangers all poking their heads. in and investigating what the hell is. going on. Some of them even start. cleaning up around the house thinking. they're helping the grieving family. members. They start cleaning while the murdered.

body of a 13-year-old lay in the next. room. They cleaned the house. What's up with the whiskey bottle on the. dining room table? It's got little specs. of blood on it. Did you see that? That's the thing that alerted Rajesh, the dad, that something was wrong. He. woke up from the commotion of Barti. trying to get into the house, the. housekeeper that morning. He wakes up, he walks out to the dining room, and he. sees his bottle of whiskey sitting. there. He's like, we all went to sleep. at 11:30 the night before. None of us. drank any whiskey, so that bottle was.

supposed to be in the cabinet. Why is it. out? Immediately, the parents start walking. towards Aarushi's room, not because they. think that she drank the whiskey, but. more instinctively than anything. But. the very alarming part of this was when. they saw that their daughter's room door. was open just a crack. Her room door was always locked when she. went to sleep. Why was it open? So, they make a run for it. They run. into her room, and their only child, their precious daughter, had been. murdered while they slept 9 ft away.

9 ft away? bedroom. Aarushi was dead in her bed, and everything about this crime scene. was horrific. There was blood splattered. all over the walls. Her pillow was. soaked in blood, and the blood was now. dripping onto the floor. Aarushi was. laying in her bed almost entirely. covered by her colorful blankets, and. her head was covered by her school tote. bag. Aarushi's parents reached and. pulled the bag back, and her forehead. was crushed by some sort of blunt force. trauma to the head. Her throat had been.

slit from ear to ear. There was so much. blood that Aarushi's dad would later. think to himself that his child, his. only child, looked like a red doll. And immediately, two things were very. noticeable. One, Aarushi's phone that. she had always kept on her nightstand. was now missing. Two, there were small plushies arranged. on Aarushi's bed that did not have blood. splatter on them. Whoever did this to Aarushi put the. little stuffed dolls next to her dead.

dying body after they murdered her. So, there's blood splatter underneath. the dolls. Mhm. Meaning, if the dolls. had already been there, they would have. gotten blood on them. Yeah. Yeah. But someone had placed it on top of the. blood. What kind of doll is that? Like little stuffed rabbits. The guests are walking around. Did you. notice the water spot underneath her. body? It's like someone tried to clean. her or something. You think they tried. to clean her? It was right underneath. her pelvis area. Well, I searched practically every inch. of this house. There were no signs of a. break-in anywhere. So, whoever did this.

also knew the family well. Speaking of, I think it's the live-in. staff member. Again, the guests, I don't know if you. can even call them that. They start. sharing their theories about Hemraj, the. live-in staff member of the house. If. you connect the dots, it all leads back. to him. Like the whiskey bottle on the. dining table. What if What if the. live-in staff member Hemraj got super. drunk and decided to essay Arushi? He. snuck into her room started assaulting. her, and when she woke up and started. fighting back, he was so scared that she. was going to tell her parents, he killed.

her. I mean, that explains the whiskey. bottle, the wet spot underneath Arushi. Maybe he tried to wash off the evidence. of any, you know, bodily fluids that he. could have left behind in her pelvic. region. And the dolls, I mean, only. someone who felt bad after their crime. would have left the dolls. Like it's. someone that knew Arushi personally. Why. else would they do that? Maybe a personal connection that shows. remorse. Additionally, there were a few more. things that pointed to Hemraj's. involvement. One, he lived in the house.

So, he could have easily gone into. Arushi's room to murder her. There were. no signs of a break-in, and Arushi's. parents didn't have any guests over the. night before. Two, earlier that morning, Arushi's parents had called Hemraj. Someone picked up the phone and then. hung up. They didn't say anything. It was weird. So, the parents called. back, and the phone was now turned off. Which is just very suspicious. Oh, and number three, Hemraj was now missing. He was nowhere. to be found, and it wouldn't be the.

first time that the killer fled the. scene of a crime. The murder of a. teenager in a Delhi suburb, Arushi. Talwar's body was found with stab and. head injuries at a Noida home this. morning at a room right next to where. her parents slept. It's a murder which has shaken the. entire community in Noida. The main. suspect in the case is the domestic. help, a Nepalese man who's gone missing.

[clears throat]. Once you step into the Dasna jail, you. feel like you've been transported to a. different world. I mean, they say that. time stops. You lose all sense of. identity. You just become a number. You. wait in line, and the payoff to this. waiting is an aggressive frisking. They.

pat you up and down. They search all of. your holes. Barrack number seven, bed number 60. But there's no bed. You walk into your cell, and it's just a. stone floor. It's a giant empty cold. room with so many half-naked people. crammed inside with nowhere to go. I. mean, there's hardly enough room to. move. All you get with you is a single. sheet. Not even a blanket or a pillow, a. sheet. And the first night that you're. there, you have no plans to use this. sheet because it smells. It reeks of.

like a nasty pungent sewage scent. But. then you realize you have no choice. It is the only thing that you can put. over your face that keeps the mosquitoes. and the flies from biting you and. crawling into your nose and mouth. And at night, maybe there's a semblance. of privacy. You're like, "Okay, everyone. has their sheets covering their face, so. maybe I can get up and quietly make my. way to the toilet." But then you get to. the corner, there is no toilet. It's just a layer of. feces all over the floor.

Rajesh, Arushi's dad, said, "That was. the moment he puked." His very first. night in prison. The day Rajesh Talwar, Arushi's dad, had. been arrested, he was screaming, "I'm. being framed. I'm being framed. It. wasn't me. You have to believe me. I'm. being framed.". The police might have believed him had. just one body been found in his house.

But when there's two bodies found dead. in your house, you know, people start to. wonder because there's no such things as. coincidences. May 17th, 2008, just 24 hours after his. daughter Arushi was found dead, Arushi's. parents were out of the house taking. Arushi's ashes so that she could be laid. to rest. Rajesh's brother was watching. the crime scene as they're out, and. while the couple were in the car, they. get a phone call. "You need to come back. home.". They found him. 45-year-old Hemraj's body was found on. the family's terrace. He was found.

beaten and with a slit throat, murdered. on the terrace. He was not a suspect. He. was another victim. He had been murdered. the night before at the same time that. Arushi had been killed. And he's found on the roof? On the. terrace, the balcony. Oh, oh, the. terrace. Okay, I see. The parents U-turn it. They rush back. home. They park the car, but only Rajesh. gets out. Hindu custom forbids the. re-entry of the ashes into the home. So, Nupur, the mom, she stayed outside in.

the car with Arushi's ashes. Rajesh. rushes into the house up to the terrace, and the police are surrounding him. "Can. you please ID this man? Is this Hemraj? Is this your employee?". "I. I don't know.". "You don't know if this is your live-in. staff member that you've been living. with for the past almost a year?". Rajesh pulls out his phone and calls his. wife who's waiting for him downstairs. "Hey, um did Hemraj have a T-shirt that. says New York on it?".

A lot of people said Rajesh, the dad, was a little weird. I mean, the day. before, before anyone knew that Hemraj. was dead on the terrace, when people. arrived at the house to investigate. Arushi's murder, Rajesh was just. screaming at them. "You have to find. him. His name is Hemraj. He's been. living with us as a live-in staff. member. He did this. He did this to my. child. So, go hurry and find him.". Side note, the parents didn't even call. the police themselves. They called their. friends and family first to come to the. house, and once they all gathered inside.

the crime scene, went from room to room. contaminating everything. Whether it was. intentional or not is up for debate, but. only then did one of them think, "We got. to call the police." So, they grabbed. the security guard of the residential. neighborhood, and then that security. guard called the police. Now, there are some other sources that. say, "No, Bharti, the housekeeper, said, 'I'm going to go run and find the. security guard.'" And it took her a. while, and that's why the police didn't. get there until all the friends and. family arrived. But people thought it.

was strange nonetheless because wouldn't. the first thing you do as a parent is. call the police yourself? The second thing about Rajesh and the. parents was that they never tried to. resuscitate their daughter. At least there's no evidence of it. The crime scene, their daughter was. covered in blood, and yet the parents. had no blood on them. And sure, you. could argue that they're medical. professionals, they're dentists, and. they can tell just by looking at her. that it's way too late. But if that's. your child, usually you don't care about. logic, no? You'll do whatever it takes to save.

them? They didn't even take her body to the. hospital in case there was the slight. chance of saving her, that she was. breathing. Also, some said Rajesh, the dad's. reaction to seeing his child murdered. was kind of odd. He just told everybody. that he needed to go find Hemraj. Sometimes he would walk around room to. room in a trance-like state, and he. would just say, "Hemraj. Hemraj." And. then he would pace and then bang his. head up against the wall, and it was. just Hemraj. They got to find Hemraj. They even offered the police cash,

straight-up cash money to go search for. Hemraj. Meanwhile, authorities found blood. stains on the stairway up to the. terrace, and I'm assuming it's not an. alarming amount, but a little bit of. blood, like little specks of blood. They. followed the blood droppings up the. flight of stairs straight to the terrace. door. They grabbed the handle. It's. locked. They go to Rajesh, the dad. They're. like, "Where's the key to the terrace?". And he's like, "I don't know. I mean, it's locked from the inside, but I don't. know where the key is. Usually Hemraj.

keeps the key. So, I don't know what to. do.". And he's like, "It doesn't really matter. though. I don't know why you're wasting. time trying to check the terrace when we. know it's Hemraj who did this. So, go. find Hemraj. He ran away after killing. my child.". Oh, this is when the police first time. at the scene, and they never checked the. terrace. The first 24 hours, they don't. check the terrace, and Rajesh, the dad, is like, "Forget the terrace. Go find Hemraj.". Mhm. But Hemraj will be found on the.

terrace. Mhm. Surprisingly, the police. just stopped bothering with the bloody. locked terrace and started the hunt for. Hemraj. The day after Arushi's body was found, the commotion at the house had died. down, and everyone had shuffled out with. their own little theory of what they. believed happened. The Talwars were very. busy having their daughter autopsied and. cremated. So, a family member was. staying at their house, which, you know, a lot of people thought it was strange. They wondered, why were the parents so. quick to cremate the body of their only.

child who was clearly murdered? Would. they not have wanted to preserve her. body for more evidence to catch the. killer? But there's a knock on the door. Retired police officer G was standing. there. Retired police officer G had. inserted himself into this whole case. yesterday when everybody was in that. house looking at Arushi's dead body. He. had walked in. He's not even on the. force anymore, but he's like, "I'm. bored. I want to solve a murder. Let's. do it." He ends up causing more trouble. than it's worth, but anyway, I digress.

Retired Officer G shows up at the house. the next day, 24 hours later. And he's. like, "I just want to check up on. everyone and everything and see every if. everything's all right.". Because he's a retired police officer, the family member lets him in. Now. again, the parents are not in the house, so this is just a relative. And G is like, "Oh yeah, did you guys uh. ever get that terrace unlocked?". "Oh no, the police yesterday said. something about getting a locksmith. here, but they never did.". "Well, can I take a look?". "Sure.". Officer G walks up to the terrace area.

and starts pinpointing all of the. strange things that I mean, some of them. were discovered yesterday, but he's. like, "The lock has a bit of blood on. it. There are stains that suggest that. someone or something has been dragged. through the door, perhaps. It That's. what it looks like, but I don't know. I. feel like we need to get into this. terrace.". He calls the police force back in, and. they finally break through the lock, run. out into the terrace, and in the corner. is Hemraj's dead body. He still had his slippers on his feet, and he was badly decomposing. It was.

clear that someone made an attempt to. make sure that Hemraj's body was not. noticeable from the terrace door. On one. side of Hemraj's body was the cooler. panel, which is like a foamy rectangular. board that covers him. On the other. side, a sheet was hanging to cover. Hemraj from the other neighbor's view. But probably the most alarming was when. authorities did their rounds talking to. everybody who knew the family. Rajesh's. assistant had a lot to say. He's like, "Oh, you found Hemraj's body? Well, let.

me tell you something.". So, the assistant is 22-year-old. Krishna. He is the couple's assistant at. the dental clinic, and he's like, "Okay, first of all, the dental clinic is owned. by the Talwars and another couple. The. two couples are really close. They both. have daughters. Their daughters are best. friends. They're like besties. Everything they do together. They're. super tight-knit, both families. Perhaps too tight-knit. Krishna claims Rajesh, Aarushi's dad, is. having an affair with the wife of the. other couple. He's sleeping with his.

business partner, his daughter's best. friend's mom, and his wife's best. friend. He said, "Rajesh Talwar is a. cheater.". So, the police theory starts to emerge. The theory goes, Aarushi found her dad. cheating on her mom. with her mom's best friend of all. people, the wife of the couple that owns. the clinic with them, Aarushi's best. friend's mom. Aarushi finds out, tells. her dad, "You got to come clean to mom, okay?" But he refuses. Aarushi wants to. teach him a lesson, wants to retaliate.

to make him feel the pain that she's. feeling. So, Aarushi, according to the. police, starts sleeping with Hemraj, the. family's 45-year-old live-in staff. member. That's what the police are. saying. That is not a theory that I. have, okay? It's insane that that's the the theory. they came up with, like I mean, we're. going to dissect all of this later, but. it's such a deplorable theory. And I I. mean, it's so unacceptable on both ends, to Aarushi as a victim, but also to. Hemraj as a victim. It makes Hemraj out.

to be this creepy guy that would. absolutely be down to engage in. activities with a 13-year-old when. everyone who knew him said that he had a. father-daughter relationship with her. Even Aarushi's grandparents said, "Hemraj treated Aarushi like one of his. own kids.". But the investigators, they pushed on. this theory, which is that night, Aarushi was in bed with Hemraj in her. bedroom when the dad walked in on her. and found them in this suggestive. position, and he was so overcome with. rage and the threat that this would ruin.

their family name that he killed them. Side note, at one point, the theory that. Hemraj and Aarushi were intimately. involved was so widely rejected by the. public that the authorities would kind. of tweak it later to state, "Actually, we change our mind. Hemraj was the one. that knew about Rajesh's affair, and. they he started blackmailing him. Rajesh, the dad, went to go kill Hemraj, but his daughter, Aarushi, witnessed the. whole thing, wanted to report him, so he. had to kill his own daughter.". The theory would change back, and it. would revert back to, "Oh no, father.

catches both of them in suggestive. position in bed and murders them both.". Yet for some reason, the police keep. coming back to the wild theory of this. adulterous father and free 13-year-old. daughter. I mean, it's a story of. revenge in a middle-class family of. dentists doing the most insane things. And the media was absolutely hooked. They They did not want to touch anything. that was borderline slanderous. They wanted straight-up defamation.

They're like, "We don't even want the. middle ground. We want the most heinous, insane stories out there. Like, that's. what we're hunting for." The police. talked to a close male friend of. Aarushi's without the consent of his. parents, might I add, because he's a. minor, and he would later state that he. was so scared when he was talking to the. police that he just wanted to give them. whatever they wanted. And what they. wanted, for some strange, bizarre. reason, was for someone to say that. 13-year-old Aarushi, that she was, quote, "easy with her affections.". The authorities started releasing all of. Aarushi's personal messages, or at least.

the ones that proved that she was, quote, "characterless." I mean, I can't. even tell you that they're bad. Like, I. wish I could be like, "Oh, maybe this is. why the police did this." Otherwise, I. just don't understand how they can be so. evil, right? They're not even bad. Not. that that would be excusable, but if. anything, these are the types of. messages that people will cringe over. later in life. Aarushi wrote on Facebook, "Hm, you hate. me. I know it's my fault. I'm such a. freaking I know.". Even the way she typed it out, it's very. childish. Like, she typed out no as k n.

o e. Like, and I don't think that she's. actually calling herself a cuz she's. intimate with other people, but it's. just like, "Oh, you know, I'm such a. like like that." But the media just ran. with it. They're like, "Look, she admits. herself that she's addicted to intimacy, and she's a little temptress.". They did not report heavily on the fact. that she was just a teenager who hung. out with her friends, and they would. make jokes like this. All of them would. talk like this. Her and her friends. called themselves the awesome foursome, but that doesn't fit the narrative. The. media had to keep up with the idea that.

they're just. all of them. A lot of people close to Aarushi said it. felt like the media was making her out. to be some sort of 35-year-old the way. they talked about her. You would never. assume that they're talking about a. 13-year-old child. This is the same girl. that without fail would forward all the. chain mail that she got in her emails. You know, the challenges that's like, "If you send this to your top 10. friends, you're going to get a kiss from. the love of your life, and if you don't, you'll be cursed forever.". She's sending those.

She's 13. She's a literal child. I mean, clearly, when she calls herself. a she's just joking with her friends. It's not that serious. This is the same. girl that wrote in her letter for Santa. that year, "Dear Santa, Merry Christmas. I know you're tired from running here. and there giving children everything. they want, but I just want something. totally different. I want the well-being. of my family. My second wish is that I. want my parents to always be with me and. my friends, too. My third wish is a bit. silly. I want a dog, and I wish my. parents will agree. Merry Christmas.".

At one point, Aarushi's parents were. asked, "What kind of blanket does. Aarushi use?". They said a blue bedsheet with Disney. print on it. Nobody liked that. They were like, "No, that doesn't fit our narrative. She's a. skank.". There was a press conference where the. police straight-up called Aarushi by. another name. Like, it wasn't even a. nickname or anything. They just Like, it. seems like the police really dropped the. ball on this one, and that's to say it. lightly. They completely ruined it.

And as for Hemraj, he wasn't even. considered in the media. He's not even. really considered a victim in the media. That's why we have such little. information on him. He's just the guy. that worked for the Talwars. He ends up. dead and most likely he engaged in. relations with a 13-year-old temptress. if you listen to the police theory. Nobody focused on the fact that he has a. wife and three kids back in Nepal, and. that he only worked for the Talwars so.

that he could send practically every. single penny of his earnings back to his. family to support them. He earned about 60 to 72 dollars a. month, and he sent it all back to his. family. Everyone who knew Hemraj said that he. was such a mild-mannered, kind, even-tempered man. He worked so. diligently. He wouldn't even look at you. in the eyes while talking to you cuz he. was a little shy. Hemraj wasn't even. supposed to be working for the Talwars. His friend was their live-in staff. member, but his friend was going on. vacation, so he's like, "Hey, Hemraj,

can you please go work for me, fill in. for me for a few weeks?" Hemraj starts. working there, and the Talwars are like, "We like you better. Can you work for. us?". They loved the way that he treated. Aarushi like his own daughter. I mean, nobody wanted to talk about that. The. fact that he worked so hard every day to. make delicious food for Aarushi. He. wanted her to eat more vegetables and. traditional food because all she really. ate were pizza, and she would eat out. all the time. So, he would try to make. his dishes more enticing. Nobody cared.

about that. I mean, none of that. mattered. He was basically invisible in. this case, and it's really hard to find. more information about him out there. The news outlets never called out the. cops on their wild behavior. Instead, they fully embraced it. There was one TV. anchor that soaked his hands in red. paint before going on air to show and. emphasize that someone's got blood on. their hands. I will say, I don't know what the police. or the press are on because the public. were outraged with everything that's. going on in the news. One close friend. of Aarushi stated, "I remember staring.

at the screens and hearing screaming. headlines about the adulterous affair. between Aarushi and Hemraj. I mean, all. of this is absolutely untrue and. ridiculous. It was so surreal and. absurd, but no one cared. They flashed. those headlines the next morning after. my 14-year-old classmate was murdered. Aarushi's friends and classmates held. protests. They believed the victims were. being killed twice, this time by the. media. I mean, what is the reason for such. baseless character assassinations?

Everyone's running with the theory that. the dad found 13-year-old Aarushi and. the 45-year-old staff member Hemraj in a. compromising position, then the dad. murdered them out of pure anger and to. protect the family honor. Where is the. proof in that? Both Aarushi and Hemraj. are gone. The dad said that never. happened. Do the media have evidence to. back it up? How are they so confident. that this is the truth? Well, maybe they. could just use truth serum. The United States, as well as a handful. of other countries, including India, have been using truth serum in criminal. cases and allegedly intelligence.

investigations for decades. Most of the. time it's reserved for high-profile. cases and it's only used, allegedly, with the explicit consent from the. accused. It takes almost a week to test. a single person. It's incredibly. invasive. Truth serum administration, or they call. it narco testing, it feels like you're. getting ready for bed. Once you're inside this hospital-looking. room, a nurse comes in, checks your. vitals, takes your blood pressure, and.

then provides you with the instructions. Change into the hospital gown, crawl. into the patient bed, lay all the way. back, get comfy, you know, the test is. going to take a while. Your stomach is. going to be a little growly, nausea can. be a side effect, so we we like to have. you fast before the actual testing. So, you lay down in the hospital bed. with a blanket pulled up, and this is. where things get very weird. A tripod. and camera will be set up at the head of. your bed, pointed straight at your face, so that you're being recorded the whole. time. A nurse will begin an IV, so that.

the doctor has direct access to your. bloodstream, and one by one, everyone. will take their places. The psychiatrist. will be present to monitor your. psychological changes. You'll have a. police investigator who will be there. asking all the questions. And finally, the doctor will arrive with the truth. serum. And then, you enter the twilight zone. The doctor starts pushing the first dose. into your IV and right into your. bloodstream. It's pretty much a sci-fi. serum that you think about when you hear. the phase truth serum. Like, that's what.

it sounds like. A lot of the drugs used. in the truth serum are just anesthetics. Uh they're basically drugs that put you. to sleep, that force you into a state of. unconsciousness. If you're having surgery, you'll get. some of this. Now, too much truth serum, you go completely under. You're knocked. out. You're not talking to anybody. You. can't listen to anybody. You're gone. Now, if you get too much of even that, then you're dead. But, too little truth. serum, your brain is still way too. conscious and you can think about the. questions being asked. You can think.

about how you're going to filter your. thoughts. The twilight zone is the name. for the sweet spot in the middle. It's. sort of purgatory. Each dose depends on the size, metabolism, and a whole bunch of other. factors relative to each person, but. there's always a twilight zone for each. person, where they can answer full. open-ended questions, but they lose the. ability to filter their thoughts. They lose the ability to think about, wait, is this going to help me if I say.

this, or is this going to hurt me? They're almost delirious. They just say whatever's on their mind. Michael Stevens, also known as Vsauce on. YouTube, did a Mind Field episode where. he was injected with truth serum in a. low-stakes form of narcoanalysis. testing, and he described what it felt. like throughout the entire procedure. He. said, with each dose, he fell deeper and. deeper into this twilight zone. He said, "I'm feeling warm all over, just all. over, so warm. I feel like in order to. feel like this, I would have to have six. alcoholic beverages. I feel kind of.

drunk. At a certain point, I feel like. I'm going to go unconscious. Full. immersion in the twilight zone is like a. hypnotic trance. You lose all critical. thinking and basically the concept of. time doesn't even exist. Your doctor. will continue to monitor you as the. officer or police investigator starts. asking you questions, and they start off. really easy, just to see if you're. there. What's your full government name? Who's the current president of the. United States? When Michael Stevens reached this point. in the truth serum experiment, he said,

"I don't remember anything after them. asking me who the president was." But, that's the scary part. They could have. told me that I said anything and I. wouldn't know if they're telling the. truth or not. I didn't know how much. time had passed and I was forming. memories all again, I mean, all of a. sudden. It's like he had no memories and. then all of a sudden he woke up and. started forming memories again. It's. just a time block, gone. But, he was awake. He was talking to. them. Afterwards, they'll advance you. into the actual case interrogation. And. unlike a polygraph test that only.

consists of like yes or no answers, if. done correctly, narcoanalysis tests. allow for open-ended questions. Vsauce. said, "Once you hit that final stage, it. feels like death.". That's what it's like to be dead. He said, "I mean, I wasn't asleep. I. wasn't awake. It's not painful. I was. just like dead. And then I was born again when they gave. me the antidote. It was a very. different, crisp change when they. injected the antidote. It wasn't like, ah, that was restful. It was like a. dreamless sleep of nonexistence, and.

then suddenly I wasn't dead anymore, but. I could have been dead. You could have. told me that I died in that moment and I. would have said, I know. I could tell.". Hmm, interesting. So, it's not even like. falling asleep. He's trying to describe it into weird. existence, almost. Like you're dead, but you're not dead. You lose the ability to form memories, but then you wake up, but you don't feel. like you went to sleep and then you wake. up and you're like, I mean, I honestly. could have been dead, but you're there. when you're dead. He even said to the police investigator,

"I didn't realize that you were still a. real person asking me questions at one. point.". So, it sounds maybe like a dream? Not. really. But, like, put every suspect. under truth serum and we're going to. have a crime-less society. What a dream! But, nothing is ever that simple. Truth. serum will weaken the brain's. inhibitions, but lying and even leading. can still occur. It's like a polygraph. People can still pass when they're. lying, and you can still fail even when. you're telling the truth. And in this case, truth serum would lead.

to the arrest of three more people. So, Rajesh was arrested. They start. going back and asking other people about. other things that they saw. Now, there. are speculations that after Rajesh was. arrested, the CBI took over from the. police, and the CBI wanted Rajesh out of. prison. It's a speculation that Rajesh. and the Talwars had a lot of influence. So, in order to get Rajesh out of. prison, what do you need? You need. people to take his spot. That's the. speculation. Now, I would say that India.

is pretty split half and half. Some. people think that this next theory is. the truth. Some people think that Rajesh. did it is the truth. So, let's get into it. Retired Officer. G, remember the one that injected. himself into the crime scene, all of. that, right? He said, "I paid special. attention to Hemraj's room that day cuz, you know, without being asked, I. conducted a formal inspection and I. found a lot of things. Depressions on. Hemraj's mattress that indicated that. three people had sat on his mattress the. night before. There were three glasses.

in his room, two of them containing some. kind of alcohol. There was sodas, a. bottle of whiskey that was empty in his. room. And interestingly enough, that. leads to the question, did Hemraj have. guests over the night before? Retired Officer G then made his way to. the restroom where he found an even more. alarming clue. The toilet was stinky. It. was a mess. It looked like at least. three people had peed into the toilet. For certain, more than a singular person. had used that toilet recently. The. conclusion of retired officer's informal.

formal inspection was that Hemraj had. guests over the night of the murders. There were other people in the house. So, who were they? If we go with this theory, who was in. the house that night? Hemraj, the. Talwars' live-in staff member, Krishna, the Talwars' assistant at the dental. clinic, Raj Kumar, the live-in staff. member of the couple's best friend. So, remember the co-owner of the dental. clinic? He's there Hemraj. Uh-huh. His. name is Raj Kumar. He was over,

allegedly, right? And it kind of makes. sense how these three would all know. each other. Hemraj and Krishna were tied. to the Talwar family. Raj Kumar worked. for the family's best friend, so they're. obviously they run in the same circles. But, there was a fourth person that was. speculated to have been there that. night, Vijay. He worked as a live-in. staff member for a neighbor. So, maybe he ran into them while working. and they all formed some sort of. friendship. I will say that he's the. least important person in this theory. Some variations of this theory don't. even include him at all, and he does.

have a pretty airtight alibi, so he's. just kind of a side character more than. anything. So, we're not just going to. we're going to kind of disclude him. And. the reason that the CBI was very. suspicious of these three men was. Krishna was the assistant that was. brought in early on. He was interviewed, and Krishna was the one that was like, oh yeah, Rajesh is a cheater. So, they thought it was kind of. suspicious. Then they heard a rumor that. Krishna actually hated the Talwars. because recently Dr. Rajesh had scolded. him, had yelled at him, embarrassed him.

in front of all the patients for making. an incorrect dental mold. So, maybe this. was his revenge. They bring Krishna in into this. hospital-looking room, but it has like. this operation theater in it, meaning. people can sit there and watch him as he. lay helplessly on the patient bed, and. they were going to be injecting him with. truth serum. Yeah. If Krishna was scared watching. this whole performance of the doctor. getting the needle ready, getting the. liquid into the needle, he would not be. scared anymore once the truth serum.

kicked in. He would feel serene, a sense. of at least temporary deadness. Then he would feel very talkative, like. he would want to talk and talk without a. a and say whatever was the first thing. on his mind, and now investigators try. to fill the gaps. Krishna's brain allegedly told. investigators that, well, first they. said that he was very deceptive and. manipulative and that he was loyal to. nobody. During the truth serum interrogation, he. stated a few things. A, he, Rajkumar,

and Vijay were all present the night of. the murder. B, Dr. Rajesh had nothing to. do with the murders. And C, he witnessed. Rajkumar killing both Aarushi and Hemraj. that night. Rajkumar, the other couple's assistant, would be brought in and he would say, "Well, actually, I was there that night, but it wasn't me that killed them. It. was Krishna.". Rajkumar also admits to being in love. with Aarushi. Okay, so the three people ran out. What's going on? They're pointing. fingers at each other? They're just like, "I was there." Like,

they get under the truth serum and. they're like, "Oh yeah, I was there.". And then they're saying this happened. Yeah, we killed them, basically. Is their story matching with each other? Only that they were all there and that. they were all drinking that night. Mhm. But then the story starts splitting off. and getting weird. There's actually a. lot of differences between their stories. under the truth serum. But the minute that all of them were no. longer under the influence of the truth. serum, they recanted everything and.

stated, "We were never in that house the. night of the murders. We were at home, asleep, in bed." And a lot of them. actually had alibis from their own. employers that they were asleep in bed. that night. So, this is getting very. confusing and weird. So, what is the. theory? There's two sequences of events. in this theory and I'm just going to go. through one of the most widely believed. ones cuz there's just small variations. and it would just be too tedious. In one. version, Rajkumar, the family friends'. assistant, is the main offender. In.

another version, Krishna, the Talwars'. dental assistant, is the main offender. So, let's explore the new CBI theory. that they claim they got from the. suspects while they were under the. influence of the truth serum. Krishna, the dental assistant, and. Rajkumar, the family friends' staff. member, had gone over to the Talwar. house to drink. Now, since most of them. work all day long, at night is the only. time that they can blow off some steam. And since Hemraj's room has a door that. leads straight to the gate door, they.

don't have to go through the house. family front door. It's very easy to. gather in Hemraj's room. Now, the three. of them are in Hemraj's room and they. already drank through the beer and wine. that they brought and they're getting. dry. They drank it all. They turn to. Hemraj and they're begging, "Hey, convincing him, like, can you go into. the family liquor cabinet and just grab. the good whiskey? You could just replace. it with water tomorrow. They'll. literally never know. They don't even. drink that much. So, please, just grab. the good whiskey.". Hemraj isn't even drinking. He doesn't. even drink much, but he agrees. He.

leaves the room and quietly goes into. the kitchen and he leaves the two of. them, Krishna and Rajkumar, to their own devices. And they start talking about how much. they like Aarushi and all the things. that they would like to do to her. Technically, now is the time. Hemraj is. busy in the kitchen grabbing the. whiskey. I mean, when else are they. going to have time alone in this house? Aarushi is in the next room over, asleep. They could just get in there. right now and do what they need to do. So, they sneak out of Hemraj's room, sneak past the kitchen, and they see two.

doors. One would lead to the Talwar. parents and the other would lead to. Aarushi's room. And in a crazy twist of. coincidences, Aarushi's door room was. open a crack. Her door room is never. open a crack. Aarushi's room door worked. like a hotel door. You need a key to get. inside from the outside. So, the parents had the key. Every night. they would lock her room door, so unless. you had the key, you can't open the door. into Aarushi's room. But just like a. hotel, if Aarushi wanted to get out, she.

could open the door and get out. Usually, the Talwar parents are really. diligent about keeping that door locked. at night, but because they were having. internet router problems and the. internet router was in Aarushi's room, they stated that they kept going in. there to fix it and they had, according. to this theory, left the key in the. keyhole and just went to bed. Now, the room door is open a crack. They. see Aarushi peacefully asleep in her. bed. They sneak into her room, close the. door behind her, jump on top of her in. the bed. Aarushi immediately wakes up.

and she goes to scream, but they cover. her mouth and they start assaulting her. She flings around trying to break free. from them. All of her stuffed animals on. and belongings on the bed start falling. off everywhere. Eventually, she becomes. overpowered. Not that she had a choice. According to this theory, the two guys. had brought with them a kukri, which is. a type of Nepali knife that was. primarily used for fighting. It's usually around 10 to 18 inches. long. The handle is very interesting. It. doesn't look like a regular knife. handle. It kind of has this rounded butt.

at the end, which is supposed to make it. easier to grip so that if you're pushing. into something, the handle won't slide. out of your hand. But it also means that. the base of this handle is pretty blunt. Like, you could probably do some damage. slamming it down on something. The knife has origins as a fighting. weapon used in combat. There's actually. a saying that you cannot put a kukri. back into its sheath until you've drawn. blood. So, every time you take it out, you. better make someone bleed. The theory continues that these two men.

threatened her with this knife. She was. so scared that she agreed to keep quiet. She just wanted to get everything over. with ASAP so she could get help. And at. this point, one of the men pulled down. her pajamas to essay her. Now, she's. panicking again because she realizes. what they're trying to do, really. And. when she goes to scream again, they slam. the butt of the knife down on her head, the handle, rendering her unconscious. She's knocked out on the bed. The two. guys are starting to realize and they're. sobering up, like, this is no longer. fun. We're about to go to jail for a.

very long time. And Hemraj places the. whiskey on the dining table because he. thinks he hears something. He pauses. He realizes, "Oh my god, the. noises are coming from Aarushi's room.". He goes into his room to check and sure. enough the guys are gone. He runs as. quickly as possible to Aarushi's room. door and he's standing outside of it and. he's whispering. He's pleading with them. to just let him in because he can't he. can't, you know, he doesn't know what's. going on inside and he's scared to. scream. He doesn't want to wake up the. parents. So, he's just like, "Please, let me in. What are you doing in there?". He just keeps begging with them to let.

him in and the door slowly opens. He. sees Aarushi on the bed. His eyes go. wide. He's about to scream, but they. cover his mouth, drag him over to. Aarushi's bed, and calm him down. They. put his hand under his nose. "See, she's. still breathing. Calm down. We can fix. it. We just need to think straight for a. second.". But just in case, they clean up the. scene. I mean, what if the parents check. in on Aarushi in the middle of the. night? They open the door just to check. that she's still laying in bed. They. need to make sure that they don't see. any blood. So, they cover up her with a.

blanket, throw a fabric tote on top of. her head. And oh wait, the assault. They. grab a mug of water, pull down her. pants, wash her privates. They set up. the toys so it seems like Aarushi is. just flinging around in her sleep, but. nothing alarming has happened. because the tote bag is on top of her. head. But like, you know, if you've got. all these stuffed animals on the ground, maybe they'd investigate. Then, they ask Hemraj to go to the. terrace to game plan what they're going. to do next. Hemraj guides them up the. stairs to the terrace, unlocks it, slips.

the key back into his pocket, and now. the three of them are standing in the. night air whispering about, "What the. hell are we going to do?" Hemraj is. pissed. He wants to come clean to the. Talwars now because, yeah, I mean, he's. probably going to lose his job, but that. doesn't mean that doesn't mean anything, really, because if they these two guys. leave, he's going to lose everything. He's going to go to jail. It's going to. seem like he's the one that did this. But Krishna and Rajkumar cannot have. that, now can they? So, a fight breaks. out. The two men grab the flat end of. the knife and they hit Hemraj on the. head with it just as they did with.

Aarushi. Then they slice his throat with. the blade of the knife from ear to ear. They leave his body on the terrace. They. grab his key from the lock and they lock. the door behind them. They also grab his. phone. Now, they just need to make sure. that Aarushi is 100% dead. They walk. into her room. She's unconscious, but to. be 100% sure, they slice her neck with. this knife, the same thing that they did. with Hemraj. They rush out of there. They start freaking about what they need. to do. They think the smartest thing is.

to stay in town. They don't have the. funds to go on the run and if they do, it's just going to make them look even. more suspicious. So, the game plan is to. implicate the Talwars. So, when Krishna. was brought in to be interviewed, he. tells the authorities, "Rajesh was. having an affair with his business. partner.". But what kind of motive is that? Like, what does that even do? Yeah, I guess it's just a drunk essay. motive. Now, there had been three main. investigating teams on this case. So, first the police come in and they.

butcher everything. They butcher the. crime scene. They butcher finding the. body on the terrace. They screw up so. royally that they're quickly taken off. of it and the case gets transferred to. the CBI, which is India's version of the. FBI. The first CBI team that takes over, they. actually release Rajesh, the dad, from. prison in favor of the theory that the. three staff members did it. And had they stayed on that case, it's. likely that everything would have played. out differently. These guys would. probably be in jail. But they were replaced by another CBI.

team and they did not believe that these. three guys had anything to do with it. They felt like the first CBI team just. wanted to take the easy way out. Either. A, the staff members are just staff. members while the dentists are from a. different socioeconomic class. So, just. to throw these three men in jail is. going to keep the peace and everyone's. belief on how the world works. Protect. the ones with and forget the ones. without. That kind of mentality. The three men being Nepali were also a. very big part of this case. Protests. started happening in the Nepali.

communities because of the arrest. People believed that they were being. discriminated against for being Nepali. and for being domestic servants. And as. a result, they were being forced into. confessing for a crime that they didn't. even commit. Another detail is, there's not even. evidence that these people were close. It's almost assumed by the police. because they're three Nepali and they're. domestic helpers, so they must be. friends. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. What is the evidence behind that? This. whole story. Yeah, there's not much evidence. I mean,

there's no evidence that they were close. enough to be even drinking that night. There's no evidence that they were. coordinating a meet-up that night. There's no phone calls, no text. messages, nothing. I mean, the three. men, they had pretty solid alibis that. night. I mean, many of them were backed. up by their employers who had nothing to. gain by protecting their employees. Mhm. Additionally, truth serum tests are. like polygraphs. They can't even be used. in court. You know, there's also the. implication that the CBI pressured the. three to take the fall for the murders. In Krishna's interrogation, he states, under the influence of truth serum, that.

he was pressured to take the fall for. this crime. Then he immediately takes back what he. said and begs the interrogator not to. bring it up again in front of the lead. of the CBI. Like the lead investigator. on this case. Wait, what do you mean? Not to bring it. up again. Because he's scared. Because. that's probably the one allegedly who. told him that you're going to take the. fall for this. So he said it. And then he's like, "Don't tell him I said that. Don't tell. him I said that." Basically. What? And even during the truth serum. interrogation, the interrogator asked.

pretty leading questions. I mean, yeah, I mean, I would say they're kind. of leading. And they had to stop pretty. abruptly in the middle of this truth. serum test because Krishna's pulse. almost started dropping and essentially. he almost died. Yeah. Also, there's theories and. allegations that the first CBI team was. replaced because the Talwars were. influencing them. What do you mean by that? They're being. influenced? That the Talwars had. connections with the CBI team. Maybe. they were bribing them. Maybe they were. promising them things once everything.

was over. And the CBI team was like, "You're right. I don't think it's you. You guys are good dentists. Uh-huh. Let. me find a different solution." The. defense attorneys for Krishna, the. dental assistant, and Rajkumar, the. other family's assistant, claimed the. setting of Hemraj's room was tampered. with and that evidence was planted to. make the two men look guilty and free. the Talwar parents from any sort of. doubt. And this is going to be the same way. later with the two parents. But two. things can be true at once, so just keep. that in mind. The three men could.

technically be guilty or innocent and. the investigators could be horrendous at. their job. So I just don't want anyone. to think that when I am pointing out. horrendous investigation skills, I'm. like trying to use that as proof that. someone is innocent or guilty. I'm just. saying the investigators were dumb, point-blank. Like regardless of who's. guilty, who's not, they really fumbled. it on this one. And it was really bad. One of the biggest pieces of evidence. that the authorities had on these three. guys was that they stated that they. found Hemraj, the victim's blood, on.

Krishna, the dental assistant's. pillowcase, at his house. So Krishna went home with all this blood. on him and then laid on his bed and now. there's Hemraj's blood on his. pillowcase. Mhm. But later, that was discovered that it. was just mislabeled. They found. Hemraj's, the victim's blood, on the. victim's pillowcase in the victim's. room. So they just accidentally wrote that it. was in Krishna, the dental assistant's. room. That's a huge difference though. Like a massive That's That's not even.

the same universe. I don't even think. you can make that kind of mistake at a. dentist's office. Yeah. Like just writing people's name over. each other. Like. There was also no evidence to tie the. three men to the scene of the crime. No. fingerprints, no car records. The urine. that was allegedly in the toilet wasn't. even tested. So truly nothing puts these. three men at the scene except parts of. their truth serum test that could have. easily been manipulated. So once the. second CBI team takes over, they were. firm on the belief that the parents were. the killers and that these three men had. nothing to do with it. And they're going.

to pivot their investigation back onto. the Talwar parents. But first, a new. piece of information completely. sidetracks them in a different. direction. Because what if. What if it wasn't the parents? What if. it wasn't the three men? What if it was. someone else entirely? AJ Chadda, who we're just going to call. AJ, was a close family friend of the. Talwars, the parents. And he had been. one of the many that crowded into that. apartment on the days that Aarushi and.

Hemraj were both found dead. He was. doing everything that he could help the. parents, the couple. I mean, they were. grieving. And sometimes that included. house-sitting the crime scene. The day after Aarushi was found dead, but before Hemraj was found on the. terrace, AJ was house-sitting. Yes. So he's alone in this house and he hears. a knock on the door. He opens the front door and there's like. four people standing in front of him. It's like a man and three women and they. introduce themselves as detectives and.

they're like, "We're back to investigate. the crime scene and more specifically, we're back to investigate Aarushi's. room.". Now, this is an active crime scene, but. AJ still doesn't really feel that. comfortable being the one to make that. type of call. His job, after all, is to. house-sit while the parents are gone. So. he lets them into the living room. because he's under the impression, you. know, like these are detectives, they're. back the next day, right? He tries to. call the parents, the couple. They're. not picking up, so he's like, "I don't. know. I don't want to let you guys into. the room cuz that's where their child.

was murdered. So can you guys just like. hang tight?". So they sit around in the living room. And he thought that they were going to. leave and they'd be like, "We're just. going to come back.". But they kept sitting around. They keep. loitering, basically, until one of the. women stands up and is like, "Can I use. the restroom?". AJ's like, "Well, I can't not let her.". He shows her to the guest bathroom that. you can open the door through the living. room and minutes go by. And then the second woman is like, "Can. I use the restroom?".

AJ's like, "Well, there's not another. Well, maybe there is. In the guest room, there's a bathroom.". So they walk into the guest room. He. opens the bathroom door and she goes in. She spends like 15 minutes in that. bathroom. I mean, both women spend like. 15 minutes in the bathroom, which may. sound completely normal until you find. out that there's actually another way. into Aarushi's room. The guest bathroom is connected to. Aarushi's bedroom. So you can.

technically get into Aarushi's room even. if it's locked. You can walk in through. the guest bedroom, walk in through the. bathroom, open the door and you are in. Aarushi's bedroom. So if someone wanted to come in and out. of Aarushi's room without passing. through that self-locking door that was. or maybe was not locked that day, there was another way. So essentially, the possibilities of. what happened that night doubled, if not. then to an infinite amount of. possibilities.

Why is that? Because prior to this, it's. like, "Oh, the only people that could. have killed Aarushi were people who knew. where Aarushi's room was, knew that it. was locked and knew that night it wasn't. going to be locked.". Right. But now it could have been a. stranger for all they knew. Cuz they could have just walked in. through the guest room, walked in. through the bathroom and they're now in. Aarushi's bedroom. You're saying like. they can walk in without any going. through any locks. Yes. You still have to kind of know the. house layout and all that. Okay. Yeah. So AJ did not know that that woman.

was probably spending time investigating. Aarushi's bedroom, the active crime. scene. Just like how he probably didn't. know that these are not real detectives. Which brings us to the theory that. Hemraj was the original target that. night. So allegedly, one of the. individuals that went to use that. restroom that day was a social worker by. the name of Usha Thakur. Now, AJ told. the CBI about this. He's like, "This is. really weird. These people showed up, they were pretending to be detectives. and I turned on the TV the other day and.

then Usha was there and I was like, 'Wait a minute. She's not a detective, she's a social worker. So now I'm. telling the detectives about it.'" Usha. was saying that Hemraj had approached. her five days before being killed. And. Hemraj was incredibly distressed about a. possible threat to his life. He was. saying that his family was being. threatened, he was being threatened. He. wanted to speak to Usha, the social. worker, privately because she's been. known to help people in times of need. Now, Usha and Hemraj did not end up meeting. that day because her schedule was. jam-packed. And a few days later, his.

dead body was found. Now, she never confessed to the CBI that. she was inside of the family's house. that day with AJ, but it's presumed that. she went in there to kind of. investigate. Cuz she didn't know if the police were. going to do a good job. Wait, so she knows that he's in danger, Yes. but she has no idea what is going on. Yeah. Who is threatening who? Why is he. reaching out? to meet up to talk about it, but she had.

been so busy and then the next thing she. knew, he was dead on the terrace. And. she came over. to investigate, pretending to be a. detective. She wanted to investigate. But investigating her room? Yes. Now, there's a lot going on, but usually. murders are not that random. That's what. the CBI believed. And you have to look. at the people around the victims that. are behaving strangely. And the parents, they were behaving strangely. The Talwar. couple's neighbor came to the police one. day and told them that he had a bloody.

mattress on his terrace. He's like, "Yeah, the parents told him. that they were cleaning up the house and. needed someone to storage Aarushi's. bloody mattress that she was found on, so they put it on his terrace along with. slabs of ice." They had used slabs of. ice to preserve Aarushi's body. and they just like dumped it on his. terrace. It was all very strange. And. like the fact that it's slabs of ice, that means it feels rushed. Like the. parents are so desperate to clean the. apartment before an investigation could. be done that they're willing to throw. ice and their child's bloody mattress.

onto a neighbor's terrace. Also, people thought it was really. suspicious because before Hemraj was. found dead, they were pointing the. finger at Hemraj. They were like, "I. will even pay the police to go look for. Hemraj." But the minute that Hemraj was. found dead on their terrace, the couple. have nothing but nice things to say. about him. That he was trustworthy and. kind. And the contradicting opinions. about Hemraj did not sit well with the. general public. And it just made them. look even more suspicious. Why is that? Because if they hated. Hemraj even afterwards, it's like,

"Well, did you hate him? Did you have. motive to kill him?". What if I don't know. I'm just listening. to this. What if they really thought it. was him, so they hated him. But when. they found out that he was killed, then. they were like, "Oh, okay. Maybe he is. innocent.". Yeah, that's what a lot of the people. that believe that they're innocent. believe. So, you see what I mean? Everything can be flipped both ways. So, it's not that I believe this theory more. or the other. It's just hard for me to. go through each point cuz each point can. be argued for each different theory in a. way that's beneficial to that theory.

Okay. So, that's what some people on the. other side say. Some people on this side. say, "Well, no." Not this side as in me, but you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Anyway, additionally, Hemraj's widow. also spoke out and said that her. husband, Hemraj, had been calling her. telling her about how the family was. kind of evil. How the dad was a. short-tempered man who scolded him for. the smallest things and even physically. abused him. She said that 15 days before her husband. was killed, he had called her from a. payphone and was saying things like,

"Ah, the parents think that I'm going to. tell their secrets to the outsiders, but. I don't know what they're talking. about.". So, with all of this, I would say, in. general, the couple did not sit well. with the public. Especially the mom. The. mom did an interview, which she was. advised not to do, but she did it. And. she wanted to refute some of the. narratives circulating in the press. And. she completely disagreed with all of the. theories that her husband was cheating. on her with their business partner. {slash} her best friend. Or the idea.

that her 13-year-old daughter is some. sort of wild, promiscuous, sexually. crazed girl that's willing to do. anything to get revenge. Which is. understandable. She hated it all. And. honestly, she was appalled that the. police were part of the reason that. these narratives were being spread. She. thought she was just doing an interview. as a mother who was saying, "Guys, look. at what they're doing to my dead. daughter. Look at what the police are. saying about her.". But she didn't realize that she was. putting herself on the stand. The whole. world was analyzing her facial. movements, her emotions. Every little.

word that she used would be analyzed and. ripped apart. The general public did not. like her. It was argued that she was. completely emotionless during the. interview. She didn't cry like everybody. expected her to. I mean, some even. wanted her to cry, but she didn't. People felt like as a mom, you lose your. kid and this is how you respond? She's. so cold. She's so emotionless. And she. just had this like poshness to her. The. way she spoke just made it so hard for. people to feel sympathetic towards her.

She just spoke very unrelatably. Very. rich. Almost like her language and. verbage was. better than you. Kind of condescending. Like smarter than you. What would you like us to say to the. millions of viewers who are watching. this? What would you like to say in. memory of your daughter? All I can say is that um. Aarushi's been taken away. at the hands of some.

animals. My life has come to an end. My husband's thing been taken away. And. I I do think there's justice there. And. all I can say is that I'm going to hope. and I'm going to try my best to get. justice for my family. Side note, the. interviewer that spoke with the mom that. day did say the mom cried a lot and they. just turned the cameras off because they. wanted to give her a private moment to. collect herself, but the public didn't. really care. Now, the CBI interviewed a.

few of the first people at the scene. that day when their daughter was found. They even asked friends of the couple, neighbors. And one friend stated, "Yeah, the mom was acting strange.". They said, "Well, I don't want to say. anything because they're my friends, but. I don't know. The mom has always been. someone that cared a lot about her. appearances. And even that day in her. own daughter's room while her daughter's. dead body lay a few feet away from her, she kept looking in the mirror and. fixing her hair.". The parents did undergo rounds of truth.

serum investigations as well, but it was. said that nothing revolutionary came out. of their sessions. Which the people who. are for the parents say that this proves. that they are innocent because the other. three guys, a lot of information. allegedly came out, right? Meanwhile, the people that are against the parents. say the truth serum interrogations were. administered by someone who was closer. to the parents, you know? Like they were. likely influenced to not ask leading. questions. And they argued that the men. were coerced into confessing and all of. those things, so we can't really go off. of that. But I will say.

the mom does briefly mention that while. her husband was arrested. cuz remember he was in jail before the. three guys were in jail. She had. physical relations with AJ, the guy that. was house sitting. Okay. So, I don't know. Did she just. admit to having an affair while her. husband is in prison for her daughter's. murder? The investigators asked AJ if. this was true and he said, "That's a. stupid question. I'm close to her. because I feel that she is a victim of a. tragedy, but no, I did not have. extramarital relations with her.".

Now, some argued that this isn't really. how truth serums work. Like you drop. your filter, so you might say things and. she might be attracted to him, but she. also talked a lot during her truth serum. investigation about how much she loved. her husband. So, it's very feasible that. she loves her husband but has a physical. attraction to this man and there's. nothing wrong with that, I guess you. could argue. I mean, it's not murder. It. doesn't imply guilt, right? But that doesn't necessarily mean that. she cheated on her husband while he was.

in jail. Others argued, "Oh, yeah, no. This is. confirmation that she cheated on her. husband while he was in jail for their. dead daughter's murder. That's crazy. What kind of mom does. that?". Major news outlets also started. reporting on the parents' affinity for. orgy parties. They said the parents love. them. They would host these major wife. swapping events in their house and lock. Aarushi in her room. so that she wouldn't bother them. And that's why they had the lock so that. no one could go into her room at these. orgy parties.

Another story emerged of how the couple. would book 12 hotel rooms at once and. fill them with 12 different couples and. like the husbands would go room to room. just like wife swapping. There's no evidence of any of that. [laughter]. None. But the media outlets stated the. CBI as their source of information. The. parents wrote to the head of the CBI and. they were like, "Oh, yeah. Oops. I take it back.". But the damage was already done. The. general public, a lot of them believed. that they were having some crazy orgy.

parties. But to the general public, the most. damning pieces of evidence against the. parents were two things. One, in the very first police report. made when just Aarushi, the daughter, was found dead, Hemraj was not found. yet. When Hemraj was on the run, Rajesh, the. dad, kept referring to Hemraj in the. past tense. And two, the dad filled in the little. spot marked time of death for his. daughter's death certificate and he.

wrote 2:00 a.m. The parents found her body at 6:00 a.m. How did they know what time she died? The two parents, the Talwars, were. arrested and they would be tried for. their own daughter's murder as well as. their employee's murder. Now, just a. quick disclaimer, from what I can see. online, the people who believe the. parents are genuinely guilty do not. believe the murder happened the way that. the prosecutors are going to describe in. court. Nor do they believe that's the. murder here. So, let's go through with.

the investigator theory. The. investigator theory is the night Rajesh, the dad, awoke from a noise. The night. of the murder. He wakes up, he hears a. noise, he goes to investigate. He goes. first to Hemraj's room, but the. employee's not there. There's two golf. clubs laying in his room. Those are his. So, he grabs one and. investigates the rest of the residence. He goes straight into Aarushi, his. daughter's room, where he finds the two. in an objectionable, suggestive position.

on Aarushi's bed. The dad processes the. scene. He already has his golf club in. hand. He swings it up in the air, slams. it down on Hemraj's head. Hemraj is. instantly incapacitated. It's a huge. blow to his head. Then, the dad goes in. for another one. He swings his arms. back. When it comes swinging down full. force, Hemraj's body gives up and he. rolls off the bed from on top of. Aarushi. And instead of Hemraj being hit. by the club, it struck his own daughter. straight in the skull. Two blows, two.

dead. The mom hears the commotion, rushes into the room, and they check. both pulses on Aarushi and Hemraj. Both. pulses are weak. They're both going to. die. There was nothing that could be. done to save them. They're dentists, they know. So, they get to work. The two. wrap Hemraj's bloody body into a. bedsheet and drag him all the way up a. flight of stairs onto the outside. terrace. They hide him behind a cooler. panel. They hang up the bedsheet so that. the neighbors can't see. And for good. measure, just to make sure he really is.

dead, they slit his throat. But the severing of the neck would be. one of the things that would actually. give the couple away. It was done so. cleanly, the investigators allege, that. only a doctor or a butcher would have. done it like that. It's such a precise. cut. Then, once they're done with Hemraj, they knew what they needed to do. They. had to do the same thing with their own. daughter. But this was going to be a lot. harder because it's their daughter. So, the dad goes downstairs, takes a bottle. of whiskey out of the cabinet, takes a.

swig of it, puts it on the dining room. table, leaving specs of Hemraj and. Aarushi's blood on the bottle, walking. away, and goes to make the same exact. cut on Aarushi's throat using a scalpel. So, he used a scalpel for both of them. Now, for consistency reasons, they clean. her up, they clean up the private parts. to make sure that no evidence was left. behind by Hemraj. They still needed to. save their family's honor. They didn't. want anyone to know that Aarushi had. been intimate with anyone, let alone.

with the house staff member that's 45. years old. They wanted to protect their. reputation. And whether it's to make the scene more. confusing for the police or whether it's. to kind of assuage some of that guilt. they felt, they grab a few of Aarushi's. stuffed animals and place them around. her. They were her favorite and maybe they. wanted her to not be alone after she. passed. The parents passionately object this. theory and they believe that this is. more of an unhinged plot of a badly. written book. Their defense attorney.

focuses on the fact that none of it made. any sense. They argue that first of all, even if the parents were having wild. intimate parties with everyone on the. block, they didn't have proof of that. But even if they were, to extend that. kind of logic and promiscuity to a. 13-year-old, to say that their daughter. was so upset with them that she had an. affair, that's what they called it. The. prosecutors called it an affair. It's. not an affair, by the way, if there's a. 13-year-old involved. That she had an. affair though with a 45-year-old man is. just wild. It's just so unhinged. And.

the idea that this 45-year-old grown man. who seems to genuinely care for children. would have an affair, {quote} affair, with a 13-year-old, it's insulting and. offensive for both victims. But the parents' defense attorneys. argue, "Okay, fine. Let's entertain the. idea that the CBI has and the. prosecutors have that Aarushi and Hemraj. were intimate." The defense attorney. argued, "Would Aarushi really not even. think to lock the door to her room when. her parents are right next door? And why. would the dad grab the golf clubs from.

Hemraj's room before he goes to. Aarushi's room? That's usually something. that you'll grab in a fit of anger after. you process a really heinous scene." He. stated he heard a noise. He didn't hear. screaming or anything alarming. And if. Hemraj is not in his own room, why would. the dad grab the golf club and go to his. daughter's room? Now, the prosecutors do. have a rebuttal, which is because he. already suspected that they were. intimate. So, maybe he thought something was going. on. Now, the defense attorneys would. say, "It's not impossible, but it just.

doesn't make any sense human. psychology-wise." Additionally, once the. dad is in the room, the defense. attorneys argued, "Why would they not. just kill Hemraj right then and there? Because naturally, wouldn't they be. scared that he would wake back up and. fight while they're trying to move his. body up to the terrace? Why wouldn't they just kill him in the. room? And let's say they did bring his. body to the terrace to {quote} finish. him off, why didn't they just kill him. with the golf club or put a pillow on. his face and suffocate him? Why did they. suddenly decide to slit his throat, which is undeniably a much, much messier.

job, and it's going to leave a lot more. blood left behind soaking into the. cement? So, these are the main premises that the. two parties went into the trial with. And now, I'm just going to rapid-fire. point by point. One thing to note before we get into it. is that a lot of people, again, do not. like the mom's energy during the trial. They said that it looked like she owned. the room. Like she didn't look guilty. She looked determined and just. unemotional the whole time. It just was. a lot. Others defended her and said,

"Well, yeah, because if you were being. ridiculously framed for your daughter's. murder and they were accusing your. daughter of sleeping with a 45-year-old. man, would you not look pissed. and determined more than anything?" I. don't know. Now, the first argument was, "Hemraj's body was found hidden on the. terrace. The cooler panel, the sheet, it. blocked everything, you know? The. missing keys, was that intentionally. done so that the police would have to. stall or could not find a way onto the. terrace?". The defense argued, "It would be. incredibly stupid for the parents to.

make a crazy assumption that the police. would not search the terrace the first. day. Most people would safely assume. that the police would search the terrace. because. it's their job." Mhm. So, if it were the. parents that killed Hemraj, are they. really stupid or bold enough to think. that the police are not going to search. the terrace right then and there? It's. kind of the most logical place to search. for weapons or clues. And a little house. lock on it is not going to be a barrier. to the police. The defense got a little. bit more intense with their arguments. They argued that the timeline given by. the CBI, it just doesn't make sense. If.

the couple killed Aarushi and Hemraj. that night, why did they not try to. dispose of Hemraj's body the night. before? So, if they killed him at 2:00 a.m., they had like 4 hours. Like take it away from the house? Yeah, like take his body into the trunk. of the car and like dispose of him. somewhere else. Cuz they can't keep him on the terrace. forever. That's very short-sighted. It's. stupid to think that the police won't. search the terrace. And second of all, I. mean, the entire residence is going to. be watched like a hawk after Aarushi's. body is found at 6:00 in the morning.

There's no way. I mean, everything going. in and out of that house is going to be. watched by press, media, police, everyone. And it's May in India. The. weather is about 100°. There's no way. that they would think that Hemraj's body. could just be left up there to decompose. and not signal to any neighbor that. there's a nasty smell, a suspicious. smell coming out of that already. suspicious home. That's what the defense attorneys are. arguing. They stated the most logical. option for the Talwar parents, had they. killed both of them that night, would be. to put Hemraj's body into a sack, put.

his body into a car, and dispose of him. outside of the house. Then they come. home, set up the scene, make it look. like Hemraj was trying to essay Aarushi, then ended up killing her, and then. fleeing the scene, and is now on the. run. And in fact, leaving Hemraj's DNA on. their daughter's private parts, if there. was any, and not wiping her like the. prosecutor claimed, would have been the. best in their favor. They would have. been the victim, their daughter would. have been the victim, Hemraj would have. been the evil killer. Yeah, I mean, I see like every theory. makes no sense. Like it's like.

we don't know, man. It doesn't add up. Nothing adds up. And it's going to get. worse. The prosecutor argued that maybe. it's not possible that there would be. nowhere in that town that the parents. could really dispose of Hemraj's body in. the city and he would not be found. And. moving the body would be a clear. implication of guilt. Whereas if. Hemraj's body was found in the house, they could still try to argue that maybe. someone broke in while they were. sleeping or that Hemraj had invited. people over to his house and had been. murdered or something of that sort. Maybe they ran through all the.

possibilities in their mind, but if the. police found a speck of Hemraj's blood. in their car, what kind of answer do you have for. that? No innocent person has an answer. for, "Sorry, I moved a body, but like. trust me, I'm innocent.". The prosecutors also argued, "If anybody. else had killed Hemraj in that house, why would they even bother moving his. body up into the terrace, hiding him. behind the cooler panel, and then. hanging up the bedsheets so that the. neighbors don't find him? They would. just kill him and leave him wherever he. was dead and flee the scene as quickly.

as possible if indeed two people were. sleeping in the next room over? Cuz there's so much risk that they're. going to get caught." Yeah. Additionally, prosecutors argued the. terrace was locked from the inside, meaning to get out onto the terrace, the. authorities needed a key. So, these. intruders, while the couple were asleep, killed Aarushi, dragged Hemraj onto the. terrace without him screaming and waking. up the parents, killed him, got the key. out of his pocket, unlocked the terrace. door, then got him up to the terrace, killed him, and then for some reason hid.

his body out of view, grabbed the. terrace key back, and then locked the. terrace on their way out, and then ran. off? To the prosecutors, that just didn't. sound feasible. The prosecutors also argued that the. attempt to hide Hemraj's body lay in the. fact that the dad was hoping the police. would just take his word for it that. Hemraj was the killer, that he's just. hired help after all, and he himself is. a reputable dentist. That's why the dad. kept urging the police to stop searching. the house and find Hemraj because they. wanted the police out of the house and. not search the terrace. But the defense.

attorneys argued that the parents are. just using critical. thinking skills. There are four people. in the house, no signs of a break-in, one is dead, one is missing. You would. imagine that the one missing might be. the killer, no? The defense attorney. argued, "They're merely trying to catch. their daughter's killer, who may have. not gotten that far at this point. The. longer you wait, the harder it is to. catch a killer. Would you not do the. same thing for justice for your. "Speaking of justice for the child, why. were the parents so quick to cremate her. body? All the clues to the crime are.

hidden in the body, so why? Unless they. themselves have something to hide? It. just seems unnaturally quick." The. defense argued that up until that point, Hemraj was the killer in their minds. And the autopsy, the medical examiner. was like, "Yeah, we're good.". So, they wanted to put her body to rest. They said they had already cremated her. and it was too late by the point that. Hemraj's body was found. Had Hemraj's. body been found sooner, they would not. have cremated her body. But how about the fact that once they. found Hemraj, the dad couldn't even ID.

him? Was he truly such a bad employer. and a heartless, cruel person that he. didn't even recognize the guy that he. had been living with for the past 7. months? Or is that guy just invisible to. him because he's the help? Or was this. another attempt for the dad to confuse. investigators? Is he trying to be like, "Maybe it is Hemraj. Maybe it's not. It. could be a different guy. We don't. know." Is that what he was trying to do? The defense argued, "No." They stated. that Hemraj's body was so bloated after. death and the heat of the terrace for. the past 24 hours that he looked.

drastically different. But to the. police, because they had never seen. Hemraj prior to his death, they had no. original face to compare him to. Even. the retired officer G stated that. Hemraj's face was, {quote} "It was huge. Nobody was able to recognize him.". The defense argued, "If you reference. medical texts, you will see that there. is a lot of changes in the face the. first 48 hours of decomp. Eyes are. forced out of their sockets. A frothy. reddish liquid is just forced out of the. mouth and the nostrils. The abdomen. becomes distended. The whole human body. goes into a bloat phase where it becomes.

twice its size. So, yeah, he didn't. recognize him. The prosecutors argued both bodies were. found with slit throats caused by a very. sharp-edged light instrument that they. suspect was a scalpel. It was too light. and sharp to be a butcher's knife or a. big kitchen knife or even the kukri, the. Nepali knife. It just This was even. thinner. It seemed like a surgical. instrument that was wielded with. precision. The prosecution argued not. many people, especially people without.

these types of professions, would have. the ability to create cuts this clean. The defense argued, "Why would the. parents use a scalpel? Why would they. use an instrument that nobody else has. in their house but dentists and like. other doctors?". Like that would be dumb. Why wouldn't. they just use a kitchen knife if they. have kitchen knives right in their. kitchen? Why would they go out of their. way to get a scalpel instead? They also. argued because they're dentists, they're. not surgeons. They mainly work with. dental scalpels which are really tiny. Like they're used to cut into your gums,

not like into your body. The blade is. only like 1 to 3 cm deep. But the prosecutors argued it really. only takes 2 cm to sever the major. arteries in the neck. Now, why the slit throats? As for the. reasoning behind slitting their throats, the prosecutors argued the parents did. it to confirm that both were actually. dead. They had to kill Hemraj because he. was a witness to everything and he was. sleeping with their daughter. They had. to kill their daughter because she was. already injured and dying and they. couldn't they couldn't go away for this, right? It would ruin the family honor.

Okay, but that's why they had to be. killed. But why slit their throats? The defense. argues, "None of that makes sense. I. mean, if they wanted to kill both of. them, why not just do something that's. less bloody? Like why leave so much. blood behind? Would it not have been. smarter to just suffocate them with a. pillow or a bag over their heads and. then take it away? The slitting of the. throats makes just weird It's weird. It. makes more sense in a situation if. someone wants to make someone shut up. because maybe if you're suffocating.

someone and you still think that there's. a risk of them coming back conscious, they could scream and they could scream. through the pillow. But slitting their. throats, I mean, it's pretty instant and. it's a very noiseless death. The defense said, "For that, it makes. more sense that it was the three staff. members that would slit their throats so. that they wouldn't make a noise.". Speaking of blood, the defense wanted to. know how the parents could have killed. both Hemraj and Aarushi in the bedroom. and there is zero evidence of Hemraj's. DNA in the bedroom. No blood, nothing.

But he was hit with the golf club, according to the prosecutors' theory, in. the bedroom and he had a head wound that. was probably bleeding. So, none of his blood was in her room? Not a single drop of blood. So, maybe he didn't bleed or the parents. are just so good at killing and like. they're able to see whose blood is whose. blood. The defense argued that if you just had. the crime scene and used reasonable. logic, the more logical assumption would. be that Hemraj was killed on the. terrace. That he had voluntarily walked.

up to the terrace and then he had been. attacked, which makes more sense in the. three men theory versus the parent. theory. Because if the parents caught. him in the bedroom, how would they get. him up the stairs without injuring him? Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The defense also argued that Hemraj was. found with slippers on when he was found. and the prosecutors are stating that. Hemraj was dragged in a sheet all the. way up the stairs and his slippers never. fell off or they're saying that the. slippers did fall off but the parents. put them back on after he was killed.

The defense is like, "No, he probably. walked up to the terrace and then was. killed and that's why.". Another big point of dispute was the. cell phone. So, that morning Bharti came. to the house and the housekeeper. Usually Hemraj would be the one to let. her in but this time he wasn't there. So, the mom calls Hemraj and someone. answers the phone but they hang up. quickly afterwards. And then when the. mom calls back, the phone is shut off. Somebody had turned it off. The. prosecutors argued that perhaps the mom. called Hemraj's phone to act like she.

was trying to see where he was because. later if the police get involved, she. needs to have record of this phone. conversation or at least the attempt to. call. But when she called, she realized. that his phone's ringer wasn't turned. off so she and her husband quickly. picked up to disconnect the sound in. case Bharti could hear from outside the. door. They hung up and then they turned. the phone off and then they called again. just for, you know, making it look good. But on the other hand, the defense. argued that if the Talwars had killed. both their daughter and Hemraj, they had. all night to set this up. One of the.

first things that they would have done. is look for Hemraj's phone and silence. it or turn it off. Even Aarushi's phone. was missing from the house. So, clearly. if they were guilty, they were paying. close attention to their phones. It. doesn't make sense for them to forget to. turn it off and let it ring and then. it's just weird. But the prosecutor argues that a lot of. things can be forgotten in the rush of. the moment. The parents were on a time. crunch. They knew that Bharti was coming. at 6:00 in the morning to clean the. house. So, they needed to get all of. these things done by then.

Now, side note, Aarushi's phone was. found later on. Yeah, a man had it. From where? Yeah, he just like found it. He was like, "Yeah." So, we can assume. that the killers dumped her phone. But he had no affiliation with the. murder or the crime and the phone, interestingly enough, he did not know it. belonged to a murder victim because it. was completely wiped of all the data. Nataram Full, the man who was found with. the phone is being questioned by the. police. His family in Bulandshahr, however, is saying they had no idea.

about who the phone belonged to. And that is another point that the. prosecutors use. The prosecutors argued. that the parents would be the only ones. to have any sort of incentive to delete.

the data off their daughter's phone. Who. else would do that? Like the three guys, if they were just there to essay. Aarushi, there would be no point for. them to wipe her phone other than just. trash it. Why wipe it? Why even trash it? I don't I don't I. don't get the cell phone thing. that's so true. There must be something. on there. Like what what were they. doing? That's so true. We read two books on. this case, watched like a whole. docu-series and did so much internet. research and no one pointed that out. Yeah, why trash it?

Then there was the argument about the. whiskey bottle left on the dining table. It had both Aarushi and Hemraj's blood. on it but none of the parents'. fingerprints. So, the prosecutors stated. that it was their belief that the dad. took a swig of whiskey in preparation to. kill his daughter. Killing Hemraj was. easy for him, right? Cuz he's nobody. He's invisible. He's a helper. But. killing his precious daughter is a. different story. So, he went and grabbed. it, transferring the blood onto the. whiskey bottle and took a sip.

But there's no none of his fingerprints. on the bottle. Yeah. The prosecutors say. he's wearing gloves. That's why. The defense argues, "Well, that just. doesn't make any sense. When did he put. on gloves? Right? So, now we're just. like putting together all these random. things and why would he have left it on. the dining room table then? Why would he. have not just cleaned off the blood and. then put them back in the cabinet? Or. why didn't he plant it in Hemraj's room. or try to come up with some sort of case. clues that the police can go off of that. would point away from the parents? That.

doesn't even make any sense.". That's what they said. But then the prosecutors argued, "So, if. it wasn't the parents, then the real. {quote} real killers would have taken. out the whiskey bottle and drank from. it? What kind of killers do that? If. they're in a crime scene where there's. two parents sleeping and they could be. caught at any moment, who stops to go. find the whiskey bottle and then drink. out of it? On top of that, the family. does not have like a clear liquor. cabinet. It's in like an enclosed space. So, you would have to either A, know. where the family keeps their liquor or.

B, go searching for the liquor. Why. would they be doing that?". Now, in defense of the teddy bears, the. prosecutors argued that the same goes. for the setting up of the teddy bears on. Aarushi's bed, all the stuffed animals. Remember? Someone had set up the teddy. bears around Aarushi after they killed. her. The teddy bears were placed on top of. blood splatter but there was no blood. splatter on the bears indicating that. they were placed on top after the crime. What kind of killer does that? The. prosecutors argued, "Who would waste.

their time when the victim's parents are. sleeping 9 ft away to position teddy. bears around the victim? It's odd unless. you know the parents are not going to. come bursting into the room because you. are the parents.". Are you placing the dolls on the bed to. get rid of some of that guilt? The defense argues that still doesn't. make any sense. They argue the theory. that the three men set up the scene. before they go to the terrace with. Hemraj after essaying Aarushi. That. makes more sense. Why else would they. put the teddy bears on there?

Then what about the internet router? This was like a whole thing. There's 5. million points for this trial, okay? The. prosecutors argued that there was an. internet router in Aarushi's room. Apparently that night, it stopped. working so the mom had to go into. Aarushi's room to reset the router, which suggests that she was in Aarushi's. room but also that she was awake. And. the prosecutors stated, "The internet. remained active in the night of the gory. incident suggesting that at least one of. the accused, one of the parents remained. awake during the events.".

The prosecutors. How do we know he was awake? internet activity. coming from the house. But anybody could. have been on the internet. Yeah, the. defense. they're saying they're dead by a 2:00. and someone's still using the internet. Yeah. And the parents said they're asleep. Ah, hmm. Mhm. But then the defense argued that the. internet router showing activity doesn't. mean anything because there was activity. even the next day when briefly nobody. was home.

Another huge point of contention was. that Arushi was just 9 ft away from her. parents. How was she murdered without. them waking up or hearing anything? To. that, the defense argued a few points. One, that Arushi was sick when she was. murdered. She had laryngitis, so for her. to scream, it was very difficult. Two, the parents defended themselves stating. that they had a broken air conditioner. in their room that was so noisy that. they could not hear anything coming from. outside of that room. And it's like 100°. outside. They can't keep it on. The judge wrote about this whole sound. debate. A sound test was carried out and.

it was found that the accused sleeping. in their bedroom with the air. conditioning switched on cannot hear. opening and closing or bolting of entry. exit doors. Interestingly, the sound test also. showed that shouting in screaming from. the next room could not be heard because. of the AC. Wow, that must be really loud AC. Yeah. Then there is the situation of the. deleted photos. The night of Arushi's. death, she was gifted an early birthday. present, a digital camera. She was. playing with it at dinner, taking.

pictures and messing around. But when. police took the camera into possession, 18 pictures had been deleted, which. doesn't sound like a lot, but take into. consideration that she only took 23. pictures, meaning that she kept five and. deleted 18 pictures. Why? Did the. parents delete them like how they. deleted all the data off of her phone. before getting rid of it? Were there. pictures of Hemraj? Were there pictures. of Arushi and Hemraj? Did it show. pictures of the parents doing something. in the background or doing other things. that they didn't want the public to. know? Is that why?

The defense argued the deleted pictures. were just a result of a teenager messing. around on a camera that she just got. Like, would you keep every single faulty. picture on your camera roll? And it's. her first time using the new digital. camera. She could have been learning the. settings. But more than that, the. defense argued that the camera was. actually photographic evidence that the. parents were not killers. The pictures. from the night before showed the mom in. her nightgown. And the next morning when Bharti, the. cleaner, came and the police came, she.

was still wearing the very same. nightgown and she had no blood on her. nightgown. So that detail matched up. Yes. But the prosecutors argue, what if that was planned? Because let's. say her story is correct. She woke up to. her daughter being dead. You would not. hug your daughter? You would not hold her in your arms? You. would not resuscitate her getting blood. on you? Did you intentionally keep your.

nightgown clean to say, "Hey, look at. the pictures." And they also argued, why. give her her camera a few days early. before her birthday? Okay, now the. argument sounds like they're saying It's. premeditated. Yeah, premed- That would be even more. insane than the whole this whole plot. would be even crazier. Like, they would. I feel like they would have planned it. much better than this, right? Yeah. So, I honestly, I don't know what to. think about any of these things. Now, I will say that the defense. actually had a pretty strong case in the.

trial. Not because I'm saying that the. parents are innocent. I truly don't. know, but it does seem like the. prosecutors just took a really strange. angle at this case. I think a lot of the. public agrees even if they think that. the parents are guilty. But it didn't really matter because the. judge had made up their mind. The judge, she was writing his verdict statement. before the defense even started their. closing arguments. There's a lot on this judge in a second, okay? Now, the parents would be. sentenced to life in prison for double. homicide.

Yeah. Now, I will say again, regardless of. what you believe, the general public. does agree that regardless of actual. guilt, the parents in this specific. trial, it seemed like all circumstantial. evidence and yet they were still. convicted. It didn't seem like there was like that. one strong aha, gotcha moment. There. were a lot of other parts of the trial. that were really questionable. So, right. after inspecting Arushi's body during. the autopsy, Dr. Doherey stated that.

there were no injuries on Arushi's. private parts. He even wrote that on the. report saying nothing abnormal detected. He took swabs, sent them to a. pathologist who stated that there were. no signs of SA in the swabs, no male. fluids detected either. But suddenly. during the trial, he came back years. after Arushi's death, years after seeing. Arushi's body because she can't be. exhumed, remember? She's cremated. And. the doctor was like, "Oh yeah, by the. way, I have like a new finding for you. Her private parts were so dilated that I. could make eye contact with her cervix.".

Dilated meaning wide open. Which seems like a detail that you would. absolutely include in the initial. autopsy. When the CBI asked, "Why didn't. you include that in the initial autopsy. report, Dr. Doherey?" He said, "Comments. about the private parts of the body were. not made as findings were non-specific. and just very strange.". Isn't that the point of the autopsy to. point out anything and everything that's. strange even if you don't have a. like a. Shady, shady, shady, shady, shady. Yeah, it's just so weird.

So, he goes from nothing abnormal to. later stating in trial, it was so wide. that he had never seen anything like. that before. But you didn't think to include that in. the initial autopsy? Then the doctor who. did Hemraj's autopsy came to testify. It's a different doctor. And he stated. that Hemraj's private part was so. swollen after his death that he. absolutely must have been engaged in. intimate relations or was about to start. intimate relations 1,000%. Otherwise, it. would not be so swollen postmortem.

The defense brought in other doctors and. medical texts because remember, his body. was bloated to twice its size. Every. part of his body was bloated. They're. like, "What are you talking about? Everything gets swollen during. decomposition." And the doctor's. rebuttal to that was just, "Oh, well, I. wasn't going off based off of medical. texts or medical experience. I was. actually making the speculation and. theory from my marriage experience.". Was he trying to state that when he is.

about to be in intimate settings, he. gets so swollen, so that must mean that. that's why Hemraj is swollen regardless. of decomposition processes? There were a lot of different instances. of mishandling of evidence, mislabeling. of evidence like the pillow case. Also. like DNA swabs were mislabeled. So, at. one point, there was a whole rumor that. she wasn't even the biological child of. the parents because they ran her DNA and. it was mislabeled. It wasn't her DNA and. they were like, "Oh my god, she's not. the child.". Yeah, it was a mess. Then there was the.

situation with the email address, okay? So, the CBI created an email address, the new team that hates the parents, right? Whether rightfully so or not, I. don't know. But they created a new email. address with Hemraj's full. name@gmail.com and they would only use. that email to reach out to Arushi's. parents. Yeah. Like at best, it's very creepy. Like. imagine the police are investigating you. for murdering this specific person and. now they're emailing you with that. specific person's name in the email.

address. For what purpose? Like are they baiting? No. No, they're they They're like, "This is. the CBI.". They're just trying to get in their. heads. Yeah. even know what to think. Like there's so. much argument, there's so much. random. evidence that's so confusing and so. unreliable and it's just so all over the. place. Guys, we had like five people all. hands-on deck working on this and I just. want to say this is just the tip of the.

iceberg. Each point can get boiled down. even more. There's more points I didn't. even fully cover. So, and that's why you're saying like. even like most people still don't know. everyone just kind of. feel like Yeah. Everyone just has like a. gut feeling and they're like, "Yeah, I. think that's the theory that makes the. most sense." But it it's really hard. There were allegations that the. relatives of the victim's family, well, Arushi's family,

had called and asked the autopsy. technicians like, "Can you not mention. any like R word, SA, in the report?". That was later denied. I mean, there's. just a lot going on. Later, the CBI also. kept referring to AJ. Do you guys. remember AJ? The one that the truth. serum, the mom was like, "Oh yeah, I. like had physical relations with him, but also he let the people in that. weren't detectives." That guy? Yeah. Yeah, the CBI kept referring to. him as a relative. Which he's not a relative. So, it's very.

confusing. Is he the man that the mom. was having an affair with or is he a. relative or in the eyes of the CBI, is. he both? Yeah, the judge was also a very. interesting character in all of this. He. just really did not care. He was. retiring literally 5 days after the. trial was over and he just seemed ready. to go. He was also blatantly very. biased. Sometimes the defense attorney. would be talking and he would just say, "How much more, sir? How much more? Let's finish it off. Come on.". Yeah. Then there was the situation with the. morning walker during trial. So, there.

was a guy named Sanjay and he testified. during the trial about all the weird. behaviors that the couple were having. the morning that their daughter was. found dead. He's like, "Yeah, the. parents are freaking weird." Now, Sanjay. said that every morning he liked to. drive somewhere to take his morning. walk. After his walk, he was on his. drive back home and he saw this. commotion outside this house, a lot of. activity. So, he goes in, he's curious, and he sees just like very odd things. happening. He said that someone was. murdered. He quickly put a two and two.

together. The parents were acting very. strange. He said that the parents were. roaming from room to room talking to the. visitors more like they're hosting some. sort of networking event. He noted that. he never saw them going anywhere near. their daughter's body and showed zero. signs of grief, and he was very. surprised. He also mentioned seeing. blood on the stairs leading up to the. terrace. Now, here's a few problems with. his testimony. He works for the CBI. [gasps]. He works for the CBI, but he said that. he's not testifying as a CBI official.

because he wasn't working on this case. He was just there at a personal. capacity. But then also, Sanjay was an invisible. witness. Not a single person remembered. seeing him at the crime scene. And. additionally, he lives 20 miles away. from the family. Meaning, did he drive. 20 miles one way just to take a morning. walk, and then 20 miles back? He also could not name any landmarks. near the family house. Like you were saying, he could be making. this up? It's like people are very.

strongly saying that the CBI was just. like, "Ah, we need another witness.". Oh, god. And he's like, "I work for the. CBI. Let me just go over there.". Yeah, he's the witness that never. existed. Yeah. And again, regardless of. if you think the parents are guilty or. not, that's not what I'm arguing. I'm. just trying to say the trial was crazy. And a good chunk of the public still. does not care. They still do not like. the parents. At one point during the. legal proceedings, the dad was attacked. on the way to the courthouse with an. unhinged man with a meat cleaver. He was. attacked in broad daylight, and his.

forehead and his hands were really badly. injured. And when he was imprisoned, this was the very first time he was. imprisoned. The dad said it was like. just really gross the way that they were. treating him. At this point, he was. about to be free. The dad was about to. be free, remember? And the three men had. been arrested for his daughter's murder. And one of them, his own assistant, was. on the way to the courthouse with him in. the police van, and they have to. handcuff all the people together, the. prisoners together, in pairs of two.

assistant. Krishna, his dental. assistant. So, they Oh, so they're all in jail at. the same time? Yeah, and they're all about to go from. the jail to the courthouse at the same. day cuz they've got the same day of. hearings. Uh-huh. And each person that goes into that. police van has to be handcuffed in. pairs. Uh-huh. The guards were like, "You and. Krishna are going together." And the dad. is like, "No, no, no, no. This is the. guy who's in jail for killing my. daughter." And they're like, "Sorry, we. only have this extra pair of handcuffs.". So, they handcuffed him to Krishna, and.

he said it was the worst day of his. life. He said he was sobbing, "Please. don't do this. This man killed my. daughter. Please.". So, again, even if the parent is guilty, that's just crazy because. he didn't have a trial at that point. That was his very first arrest. Mhm. Now, the two parents were thrown in. jail, and after 5 long years of being in. prison, they had appealed the minute. that they were thrown in prison. The. verdict was overturned, and the parents.

were free. 5 years later. The new judge that took a. look at the case said the CBI failed to. prove the three pillars of a trial. There was no um direct evidence linking. the parents to the murder. There were no. eyewitnesses, and they failed to. establish a valid motive for the. murders. A lot of people were divided on this. decision. Some people who thought that the parents. were guilty were upset. And later, the. parents' own defense attorney was asked. what he thought about the couple. This. is the guy that defended them. Mhm. And. if they were capable of murder, and he.

said, "Honestly, the dad? Too soft. Too emotional. Not capable of. murder. Would not be able to live with. himself. And. the mom? Yes.". I don't know what that means. I guess he. just thinks that she's capable of. murder, but like that does I don't know. what that means. Like I don't know what. any of this means in anything anymore. I. think the saddest part about all of this. is that regardless of who we think that. did it, or who you think that did it, Hemraj is kind of a double victim in.

this. Um I think Aarushi got a lot of. attention for being 13, for being the. child of the parents, but Hemraj, I. mean, he worked 24/7 to ensure back home. had a livable income. He had a wife and. children, and he showed no tendencies of. any inappropriate violent behavior. There was no presence of drugs or. alcohol in his system, not that that. would change anything, [music] but. instead of being viewed as a victim who. lost his life in a violent murder, his. reputation just swings back and forth.

Oh, is he a person who's willing to. sleep with a 13-year-old? Is he this? Is. he that? Does he hang out with killers? It just. Hemraj's widow, his wife, said that life. was difficult with him away for work, but now it's even more miserable because. at least back then, she always knew that. he was coming home. So, regardless of who you believe did it, all we know is. the killer is free. So, leave your thoughts in the comments. Please stay safe, and I will see you on.

Wednesday for the next one. Bye.