100 Women Kept as Slaves in “Human Egg Farm” For Egg Harvesting
[Music]. bada bing badao it's a place called. barasa the story starts like this it's a. long story but one that you've never. heard before it's about a place that. dwells in the mountains it's a place. where really bad things happen and you. may think that you know all the bad. things you may think you've got it all. figured out but you don't because the. truth of the story is worse than. monsters are men this is the starting of. the story of barasa it's about a. 12-year-old boy Boy by the name of Sam.
and his entire family they're moving to. the Ozarks this is a real place there's. a whole TV show based off of it it's in. the US this is naturally the perfect. ominous setting for a mystery it's. beautiful don't get me wrong I've never. been but just looking at pictures and. videos of the Ozarks you've got the. types of riverways the picturesque types. of rivers where they're calm enough and. wide enough that you can ride your. little boat through it and it's curvy. it's like a F1 Trail and on sides of the.
river it's just these mountainous. Landscapes with all these tall trees and. you feel like you can turn left and. there's more River there's more trees. and it's absolutely beautiful the Ozarks. even have these mazike underground caves. that you can explore and visit what. state is it in it's part of Missouri. Arkansas Oklahoma and Kansas oh it's. it's massive it's like a huge landscape. okay now it's a place filled with a lot.
of history a lot of stories come out of. the Ozarks and a lot of them are oddly. mysterious I think by daytime it's a. dream destination like you want to be. there at all hours that the sun is up. but the second that the sun sets maybe. I'm just a scaredy cat I think that I. would not want to be outside alone by. myself Sam and his family are moving to. the Ozarks Sam's dad he just got. transferred to the Sheriff's Office in a. small town there and as much as everyone. in the family seems to be adjusting well.
Whitney the 14-year-old daughter so it's. 12-year-old Sam and Whitney the. 14-year-old daughter Whitney is not. having a good time she's like I miss my. freaking friends what the are we doing. in the Ozarks what even is here I don't. care about the underground caves but. that is not Sam's responsibility Sam. he's making friends he's going on Hikes. which Speaking of hey why do they call. this Trail West Prescott or Trail he's. asking his new friends that why are. there so many trails around here named.
Prescott is this mountain called. Prescott or something his new friends. are giggling wait what's so funny I. don't get it it's not named after a. mountain everything is named after the. prescotts the family that lives on that. giant estate on Fairmont they. practically run everything in this town. Mr Prescott and his son Jimmy own like. half of the businesses here yeah but. they don't own GameStop do they then it. doesn't really matter it doesn't really. count Sam's friends they take him to the. top of the treehouse on this hike and. they have him carve his name on the back.
of the tree with a pocket knife there's. a bunch of other kids names just like. carved into the trunk of the tree and. they instruct him now say underneath the. Triple Tree there is a man who waits for. me and should I go or should I stay my. Fate's the same either way Sam looks so. confused with that's so creepy what is. that even. mean I don't know it's just a tradition. it's bad luck if you don't do it un. ceremoniously Sam repeats after them.
they sit on the top of the mountain. they're sharing these cans of lukewarm. disgusting beer they're gagging but. they're hiding it because they're 12 and. trying to be cool don't do this at home. and Sam is parking up wait what is that. did you hear that did you guys hear that. it sounds like this loud metallic. grinding noise for 10 minutes the sound. is piercing into their brains before it. finally stops it's so much louder on the. mountains than it is in the town it. feels like inside the mountain there's.
something giant like a giant metal wheel. scraping against the insides of the. mountain Sam's new friends tell him I. mean it's technically nothing what do. you mean technically barasa that's what. we call it it's a place in the woods. where bad things happen we don't really. know where it is that is so vague like. what bad things okay don't try to find. out or else bad things will happen to. you it is so ominous why does it seem. like every everyone in this town seems.
to just accept this as a fact imagine a. random mysterious noise overtaking your. town for years at a time and you're just. like oh don't worry about it bad things. happen there and why don't they just. tell Sam so he can stop being so curious. Sam asks his dad later that night. because he works for the sheriff's. office he's like if anybody knows what's. going on it's probably the sheriff's. office but everything in this new town. is creepy and he's trying to bring it up. to his dad and the dad is like don't. even think about it like truly nothing.
is happening you're just a little bit. freaked out everything seems creepy even. the kids at school bring up that there. used to be these Minds you know this. whole town used to be based off of the. mines it's not actually the Prescot Sam. is wondering did the Prescot get rich. off of the mines no they came after they. opened up all the businesses the mines. were really bad they didn't find much. down there but recently they closed it. shut cuz apparently some kids got into. them and a while back they died and by. and I mean I don't know Generations ago.
yeah the city blew him up in controlled. plans so that they can't go inside. anymore another kid leans over and tells. Sam they messed up though that's what I. heard from my grandma I heard they blew. up the water table or poisoned it or. something like that Sam wonders if that. means all the water in the town has C4. in it and we can just all explode and. all of his friends his new friends. they're making fun of him they're poking. fun yet we're all just bound to combust. at any moment I believe so you guys are.
so dumb that day after school Sam's mom. picks him up and by dinner there are. police cars surrounding the house he. thinks it's Dad no your dad is fine Sam. then what's going on Mom Whitney your. sister never made it to school this. morning Sam's sister Whitney goes. missing and nothing will ever be the. same after that even years later by the. time that Sam is finishing up sophomore. year of high school he's working for a. sandwich shop that owned by the.
prescotts but managed by this woman. named merera who's struggling with. infertility and life feels normal but. nothing is normal Whitney hasn't been. found in years and one can only imagine. that something really bad has happened. to her what if barasa has her or. whatever his friends are talking about. Whitney isn't even the only one in town. that's gone missing a lot of other girls. her age has has gone missing for a small. town the numbers don't make sense and. why are none of the adults even taking. it that seriously one of Sam's friends.
say you know sometimes when I'm high I. can see them all the missing people and. I feel like I can I can see the answer I. know what happened I feel like I'm so. close to solving it like they're all. part of this puzzle and I put the pieces. together and it makes sense but I can't. tell what the picture is of the puzzle I. don't know dude it just feels like. everyone in this town is drinking some. sort of [ __ ] Kool-Aid for the next. few years Sam and his friends decide. they're going to figure out what. happened into the missing girls they.
keep going up and down the mountain they. feel like the source of that grinding. metal noise is going to be something it. has to be it's got to be a piece of the. puzzle and that is when they find hidden. deep inside the mountain is a facility. this is where the girls are being taken. and trapped in the mountains the missing. girls are strapped to the beds they're. sedated they're being essayed and many. of them are pregnant it's a baby Farm. the water in the town was tainted by the.
MIM destruction which leaked chemicals. into the water causing Mass infertility. so now when newcomers come into town. their young daughters are kidnapped. brought into the mountains and forced to. have children these children then get. sent to families in the town to pretend. to be their own and this is all run by. the Prescott family when the captives. are no longer useful they get sent to. the shiny gentleman that noise you here. that's a metal meat grinder that grinds. women up after their bodies are used. barasa is a human baby Farm but this is.
not real because this is a phenomenally. written story on Reddit it was part of. the No Sleep there's a whole podcast. about it now but there's no such thing. as a human baby Farm that's way too much. like handmaid's tail it's it's fake. until February 3rd of 2025 three women. were rescued three thaiwomen from a. human egg Farm where they say that they. were held captive forced to be injected. with hormones and had their eggs.
extracted forcibly without their consent. from their bodies so now people are. wondering where are they taking the eggs. who's buying the eggs and what happens. if these women run out of eggs to give. this is the case that has been dubbed. the human egg Farm. [Music].
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fertility struggles loss of reproductive. autonomy and human trafficking so please. take care of yourself a quick disclaimer. I think that I am always advocating for. ways for people who are unable to. conceive to find ways to start a family. I think it's one of the most beautiful. things to have children and to raise. them to be thoughtful intelligent adults. that are part of society and I think. there are a lot of parents out there. that clearly do not deserve to be. parents they should not be parents just. look at any of the past few videos this.
month and then there are a lot of people. who desperately want to be parents and I. think if given the chance they would. raise some of the most incredible people. in society and I think those people. should have the right to fight for that. chance in fact I think it should be more. affordable and easier for them to become. parents one of our closest family. members went through IVF to become a. parent this is not a think piece or an. opinion on IVF as a whole or the. fertility industry as a whole or even.
surrogacy for that matter this episode. is purely about human trafficking and. why there might be a demand for human. egg donors that would incentivize very. evil people to do something like this. also this case takes place in the. country of Georgia which is situated at. the intersection of Eastern Europe and. West Asia this is not happening in the. state of Georgia and the US uh at least. not that we know of not that it would. matter though if it's happening in the. United States or not it's still a matter. that should concern everyone but just to.
clarify from the get-go so with that. being said let's get started it's not. exactly what you expect to see on the. way to world religions class which is a. kind of random class but there's a group. of people standing in the hallway. staring at this piece of paper on the. wall at the top there's this picture of. three people's legs you don't even see. their torsos or even their heads but it. is very clear that you're dealing with. two adults and a small tiny little baby. learning how to walk that's what it. looks like like a little family photo.
but chopped just below the knees the. first line reads why become an egg donor. have the chance to give the most. precious of gifts to a loving couple in. need the gift of Life earn between. $6,000 to $8,000 for a first time. donation and up to $10,000 for. subsequent donations enjoy the Financial. Freedom of not being able to pay off. student loans make a down payment on a. home or create a college fund for your. own children this is in the college yeah.
some people are taking pictures of the. flyer I mean it's good money but it's. not nearly as good as another egg donor. help wanted ad that was offering. $100,000 for the donor's eggs of a white. woman must be an athlete under 30 years. old proven college level athletic. ability preferred other ads have. promised anywhere between 2,000 to. $50,000 for a donor sometimes the. criteria is loose anybody is welcome. anybody with eggs. other times it's down to a tea young.
healthy intellectual aptitude which is. just a polite way of saying we will be. following up and verifying your SAT. scores physical qualities accepted. another acceptable way of saying must be. at least 6 feet tall and have Hazel. colored eyes if this is you give us your. eggs right now in theory it it's not a. bad deal in theory if you forget about. the part where High values are placed on. donors with specific characteristics.
which one Professor States could raise. eugenic concerns if you try to forget. that and make this a perfect. hypothetical world and the fact that. this ad is posted in a college campus. which would Target financially. vulnerable college students who are just. trying to survive and get a degree in. this economy if you ignore all of that I. guess it's kind of a even deal one party. gets money one party gets eggs that they. desperately want it could be a good. exchange perhaps but what happens if. someone wants to make money from egg.
donations but they themselves don't have. the eggs what do they do that there's a. lot of good reasons that someone does. not want to donate their eggs religious. political ethical personal or maybe. they're just like hey my genetic. material is less than Stellar this is me. okay I hide in the bathroom about three. times a week to cry in silence while. contemplating my entire life I don't. think that you want my jeans by any. means I have allergies that'll take me. out in 2 seconds or maybe you do want. that maybe you do want all of your kids.
and you want to have all these people. out and about but you don't like the. idea that now every single person of a. certain age that passes you you wonder. is that my kid what if that's my kid. you're not my kid right cuz you kind of. look like me but one big component that. people have said I never want to be an. egg donor is the pain and health. complications the process of retrieving. an egg is anything but simple and easy. first you have to go through hormones. thousands of dollars worth of hormones.
are just handed to you in this clear. Ziploc bag if you will bye have a good. time be safe for 10 days at home by. yourself you're not a nurse you're not a. doctor you have to inject Two drugs. straight into your stomach by yourself I. mean I guess you could have someone else. do it for you but everyone says don't. have your husband do it for you they. don't know what the fork they're doing. the two drugs one stimulates follicle. growth and that's the the eggs grow in. follicles and then you have another one. that prevents premature ovulation so to. put it so simply that it could.
potentially be incorrect in theory it's. the same your body needs to create a. bunch of eggs and keep them safe inside. of you so that they can come and extract. them now usually it's one egg per month. right sometimes 50 what you're just. creating as many eggs as possible and. then you're making sure that they don't. prematurely I guess mature wow so you. have to prematurely ovulate if you will. if you want to be more technical so they. have to keep them inside your OV. until they're ready to be extracted by.
the egg retrieval wow okay process the. shots themselves are pretty bad you end. up getting a balloon siiz bruise on your. stomach and it has to be injected. through your lower abdomen you run out. of fresh places to administer the shots. which even if you don't poke the exact. same spot your entire lower body is. bruised and sore so everything feels. painful one nison writes I poke around. my skin until I locate a spot that isn't. sensitive I have to just grab a piece of. flush between my fingers I breathe out I.
stick it in I relax the pinch and then I. inject super slowly but it's not even. just 20 minutes of pain every day and. then you're good the hormones they're. lingering this does not go away Run net. is and rights I didn't realize how much. the hormones would affect me mentally. one of the hormones made me not sleep. which made all my other side effects so. much worse three nights of not sleeping. feeling depressed and experiencing the. worst mood swings of my life never have. I ever felt so uncomfortable with my own.
body my body felt like a strangers none. of my pants fit my acne was a disaster. everything hurt another nzen writes my. belly is bulging out I'm hungry all the. time I have headaches nightly and my. joints hurt I can barely squat down my. legs feel stiff it's the worst thing. I've ever experienced hands down my mind. doesn't even feel like my own because. it's whacked out zoned out on so many. hormones I have zero emotional. regulation and yet I feel totally EMP. and Hollow a lot of the times but if you.
want to work out let some of that stress. out you can't even work out if you work. out because your ovaries are so swollen. they could. twist with movement physical movement of. the body which will result in what can. only be described as the Satan himself. spawning inside of your ovaries and. hosting a dance party for all his little. demons that's what they say it feels. like that's just the hormones then it's. time to actually take out the eggs. retrieve the eggs the overview is.
something like this step one sedation or. anesthesia the level depends on uh the. clinic the country the person's health. requirements but most of the time. anesthesia is highly highly appreciated. step two an ultrasound is inserted into. the private part to locate the ovarian. follicles that contain the mature eggs. step three a thin Long Hollow needle is. guided through the vaginal wall and into. each of the follicles the fluid within.
the follicles which contains the eggs. gets suctioned into the tube vacuumed. out of you and then step four is the. recovery and post-procedural steps a lot. of people say the actual procedure. itself is the easiest part cuz you're. knocked out you don't have to do. anything you shouldn't feel too much but. when you wake up that's where it gets. bad people have differing opinions some. people say it's the worst pain of their. lives and they've given birth before. others say it's a few days of resting in.
bed and you recover one nzen who had a. bad writes egg retrieval alone is. absolutely brutal they ultrasound you to. find the eggs ready to release then a. foot long large boore needle is threaded. up your vagina and stabbed through the. upper wall one person writes completely. robs you of your life okay it's. incredibly emotionally taxing and. physically taxing the cramps and. bloating afterwards after the eggs were. retrieved were so bad I doubled in size. I mean I talked to two girls in the. lobby and they were just like yeah it's.
going to be like that for two weeks it's. really bad why aren't we warned about. this why aren't first timers coached. about how bad this is and again there. are a lot of valid reasons that I can. think of of why someone would want to go. through this because they want to have. children because the idea of not having. their own family is worse than the idea. of getting their eggs retrieved or they. want to help others have children there. are solid reasons out there but what if. you have to go through all of this. because somebody is holding you hostage.
and making you because they're farming. your. eggs in the year of 2024 there were 257. ties who fell victim to human. traffickers that's in 2024 and those are. the ones that were actually rescued so. out of. 257 53 victims were found in Thailand. 204 were found in other countries more. than half of those victims were rescued. by a foundation in Thailand called the. pavina foundation so it would make sense.
that you go to them when you have. information about a huge international. trafficking ring that involves the black. market a woman burst through the doors. of the foundation one day in September. this is September of 2024 she has just. escaped she has been traffic to a. different country she escaped and now. she's here to tell the foundation I mean. beg them really that they need to help. there's at least a hundred other tide. girls trapped in there they're being. held captive what do they want from them. they eggs. what do you mean they want their eggs.
headlines all over the world would later. read taii woman rescued from human egg. Farm in Georgia women kept as slaves in. human egg Farm a lot of netizens. initially thought Georgia in the US. which is considered us defaul ISM not. everything is about the US okay but a. lot of other netizens thought women are. being kidnapped to be exploited for work. to work at a chicken egg farm and they. have to provide hard lab is that what's. happening right now this is a crazy. headline what's going on one comment.
reads when I read about human egg Farm I. had hoped that this was just some sort. of bombastic title and it'll just be. human trafficking to work on a chicken. egg Farm but it's not about chicken eggs. it's about human eggs they want human. eggs so what are they doing with all of. these human eggs a woman in Greece by. the name of Maria is called into the. police station there's been a theft. she's sitting there with two police. officers and a woman she's like who the. hell is this woman she's not in uniform. so she's not a police officer I'm a.
psychologist they only bring in. psychologists for really bad cases right. what's going on ma'am do you recall. about 4 years prior you had your eggs. retrieved at a fertility clinic yeah and. I had my son about 3 years ago he's. what's what's going on yes but do you. recall how many eggs they harvested they. told me I only had six harvestable eggs. the police are quiet why what's going on. Maria at the clinic lied to you they. actually harvested double that the other. eggs that were never told to you about.
they were used to create embryos for. other women there's been a theft the. fertility clinic stole Maria's other. eggs told her she only had six she had. 12 and then used those eggs to create. embryos for other women why is wild. Maria's so confused it's not like she. has special eggs she even knows it. herself she admits she's not exceptional. in that department of you know how the. higher the education the more cost for. the eggs she's not Ivy educated which. again those are the standards not set by.
me in fact Maria's in her late 30s she. was a previous smoker she would have. technically been a pretty bad candidate. for egg donation but not only that she. never consented to this and this is not. just something that's happening in. Greece a fertility clinic in UC Irvine. paid more than $24 million to settle. lawsuits after they took eggs from. patients without their consent and used. them to make other women. pregnant what and the settlement likely. should have been a lot more but at the. time nobody could even they were arguing. the definitive cost price of a human egg.
they were like what is a human egg even. worth really we don't know it it depends. on the specifications of the egg donor. so there's really no value of a human. egg that everybody can agree upon yeah. yeah yeah it happens in other parts of. the world because ultimately it's a. billion dooll industry and when there is. that much money on the line people start. doing some crazy things a super producer. is somebody body whose body reacts so.
strongly to the hormones that they can. get about 20 plus eggs per egg retrieval. some people will even have 50 eggs in a. retrieval but you don't want that in a. regular cycle one egg is released during. egg retrieval you take hormone. medications to induce a super ovulation. of sorts which typically produces around. 13 to maybe 20 eggs in both ovaries but. if you produce more than 15 eggs at a. single given time you are at risk of. developing ovarian hyper stimulation.
syndrome otherwise known as. ohss one nison describes it as pain and. extreme bloating and pressure from my. lower abdomen up to my chest really bad. back ache from base to shoulders. diarrhea shortness of breath when the. bloating was at its worst I was. Sleepless I couldn't even lie down and I. was throwing up I was like a beached. whale I couldn't even bend over when I. was in the car every bump in the car. hurt another person I had severe. abdominal pain for 6 days post ER one.
moment where I was curled up in a. soaking wet ball dry heaving. uncontrollably sweating my husband was. helplessly asking if there's anything. that he could do to help we drove to the. doctor 30 minute drive was the most. excruciating thing I've ever experienced. every bump in the road caused unbearable. pain to my ovaries and abdomen that. nearly caused me to puke and throw up. the doctors tell her that her ovaries. are literally floating in fluid so the. sharp pains that she's feeling are her.
ovaries just floating and hitting her. body in different places and rotating. and twisting and moving around the only. way that they can provide any sort of. relief is to drain the fluid immediately. sounds great right but how you may. Wonder vaginally with a needle no. anesthesia she says she felt much better. after getting the fluid drained but not. back to normal most people say that you. will know if you have ohss because. within a day you go to sleep and you. wake up looking 8 months pregnant the. worst part is sometimes people don't.
even take you seriously one nison writes. I called my doctor and I was about to go. to the ER but she said that I was. probably okay cuz I was still speaking I. mean it's just been a journey another. comments I didn't have it that bad but I. was still bed written for 3 weeks and. had anywhere between 12 to 15 lbs of. fluid hanging out at any given time I. had to sleep sitting up otherwise the. fluid would find itself into my lungs so. but they said it wasn't that bad some. people say they ended up with 30 lbs of. additional fluid inside their bodies.
which took 2 weeks for them to be fully. drained and to be able to even walk. again when n is in writes truly was one. of the scariest experiences of my life. and extremely traumatic I had to start. seeing a therapist shortly after because. of reoccurring panic attacks I lost. about 40% of my hair from all the stress. and trauma therapy and medical leave was. an absolute Lifesaver it took me 2. months to get back to my Baseline normal. the more you donate eggs the higher the. chance that you will get OHS and if what. The Whistleblower from September 2024 is.
saying that there are 100 tii girls held. up in the country of Georgia forced to. donate their eggs I don't even know if. donating is the right word here forced. to take their eggs out then that's a lot. of eggs and that's very frequently that. this is happening are they okay one. popular donor in California states the. US industry guideline limits egg donors. to just six Cycles you can only donate. your eggs six times the guidelines are. in place because the more you donate. eggs it's believe the higher your chance.
of suffering from Health complications. but also there's population concerns cuz. if you donate too many times and it. results in too many births basically you. have to factor in the probability that. two people will meet get immediately. involved in some intimate activities and. they may be related without even knowing. to be more crash they're trying to make. sure non-intentional incest does not. happen between a bunch of half siblings. but one egg donor States alarmingly. there's no way for Clinic to track egg. retrievals from other clinics so a nurse.
just asks you how many times have you. donated I always just say four even. though it's been more than that four is. a good number and then after that the. clinics will stop asking you because. they don't want to stop taking your eggs. they also want to make money the egg. donor is probably getting paid $ to. $110,000 for a round of IVF it costs. someone a couple anywhere between $30 to. $60,000. wow you can't the fertility clinics are.
making a lot of money right so one egg. donation is four to six that they pay. but they get multiple eggs so usually. the batch of eggs is considered one oh. okay yes but in theory if a human baby. Farm were to exist that means that the. captives are forced to have their eggs. extracted every month every other month. if we're being super nice which is not. only highly unethical aside from the. human trafficking aspect but healthwise.
they're getting exposed to a lot of. complicated health risks one of the. victims of the Egg Farm a Woman by the. name of Miss na she tells the Thai. authorities it was all there in a. Facebook post you go to the country of. Georgia become a surrogate mother and. get paid $800 a month during your. pregnancy and then once you give birth. you get paid like $20,000 in cash side. note some people would say that they saw. the ad and it was around $111,000 other. people said it was closer to. $18,000 but it's somewhere in that range.
it is a straightforward easy plan I mean. minus the fact that you have to travel. to Georgia and there's no non-stop. flights from Thailand no direct flights. and then obviously you got to get. pregnant give birth to a child that is. not your own but other than that it's. pretty relatively straightforward the. job offer it's not too good to be true. it's not the prince of some Far Away. country is asking you to marry him this. is a job and you get paid for the job. it's it's also really good money I did. some researching into this now if you've.
worked in Thailand or you are Thai I. would love some additional Insight when. I first tried to see the average salary. in Thailand it kept coming up at 35,000. USD which in turn didn't make sense for. a lot of people to take this surrogacy. job for. $188,000 cuz if you're talking about a. full pregnancy and then the before and. afterwards you're talking about a year. of. work but going on forums a lot of tha. people have stated the average salary. calculations are based off of the main. city in Thailand but also expats who are.
remote working or different countries. that have set up there and they're. moving in from different countries to. work there they state that if you just. factor in the thae locals it's more so. around 5 to 6,000 USD a year which then. makes more sense in the context of this. case the surrogacy job is like 2 to 3. years of work in 10 maybe 10 months. maybe 12 months these posts are. aggressively trying to recruit Tai women. and naturally it works it's a job people. people apply it's assumed over a hundred.
women flew out under this pretense. they're going to live with a couple in. Georgia they're going to conceive their. child give birth get paid and come back. home there's no egg donation they're. getting the embryo of said couple okay. let's say there's a wife and husband the. wife is going to provide the eggs during. IVF and then it's going to be the embryo. that is inserted into the tioman and. she's going to be a surrogate so it's. not her genetic baby. right wow if that makes sense yeah which.
a lot of people are more open to that. versus carrying their own child mhm I. guess I mean Genetically speaking. biologically speaking if you will you're. going to be fed cared for by the couple. so you can give birth and provide them. their one true wish which is to start a. family that's the plan but first Dubai. Miss n says that she met up in a. Thailand airport with 10 other Thai. women who are going there for the same. job and two Chinese Nationals came and. met with them these are the middlemen of.
the agency they're connecting the couple. in Georgia to all of these women this is. their job they're like a recruiting. agency they're a fertility agency so the. 12 of them there's 12 10 thaiwomen and. the two Chinese Nationals they first fly. to Dubai where they stay for three. nights staying at a hotel all paid for. by the agency Miss na one of the victims. she says that nobody knew each other. like out of the 10 Thai women not a. single one of them were like oh we're. friends we're sisters that we're doing. this together like this is my family.
friend nobody they're all complete. strangers but everybody's getting along. and when they're in Dubai like the two. Chinese Nationals the um what do you. call them the agency members they're. encouraging them to take pictures and to. Post online like they're traveling to. Dubai like when else are you going to be. in Dubai this is crazy so they have a. few good nights then from Dubai they fly. to Armenia where they again stay at. another hotel and they take a bunch of. pictures. then from there they take a 10-hour.
train ride to the country of Georgia. that's where they're asked could we get. your passport please why do you need our. passports it's very complicated so we've. been working with this Agency for a. really long time and there have been. cases not a lot just very few where. someone will be going through the. surrogacy and decide I actually want. this baby and I'm going to flee and all. of the money and it it just becomes a. legal nightmare because genetically I. mean you're talking about there's.
contracts in place and it becomes an. international ISS issue so could we. please just get your passports but if. you ever decide that you want to travel. or you want to do something that. requires your passport just let us know. we can okay it or even if you decide. that you want to keep the baby that's. not okay but we at least need to all. talk about it and figure out the next. process it's not an unreasonable request. they seem pretty open to pretty much. everything they're like if you want your. passport just let us know otherwise. we're just doing this to be safe so.
everybody gives their passports the. guides log all 10 women's passports and. now it's time to be taken to their host. family that they're going to be. surrogates for instead of being driven. to a little Suburban home with a white. picket fence and a loving but desperate. couple who just want a family as much as. they want to breathe the girls get. dropped off at what can only be. described as a warehouse of woman a. building filled with 60 to 70 Thai women. per building cramped there's about a 100. Thai women there being kept according to. miss naah some of them likely took a.
180° U-turn to turn right back go back. to Thailand but they're blocked you're. going to be arrested if you try to leave. this building technically you're in the. country of Georgia illegally if you. leave you walk out you try to scream. you're going to be arrested wait what do. you mean they they're there illegally I. guess they're trying to insinuate that. you came on a tourist visa but you are. here for. work you're going to be arrested and you. don't even know the language instead of. becoming surrogate mothers according to. miss na each of the women were told that.
they will be harvested for their eggs. they will be given hormones to stimulate. their ovaries and once a month they will. be put under their eggs will be taken. from them and every month the only way. out is to pay the kidnappers $22,000 in. cash as a ransom the captors are. allegedly telling them that if you. donate your eggs for 3 months three egg. retrievals you can leave or you pay the. ransom because we we hosted you at all. these hotels we flew you to Dubai we.
took you to Armenia we took you. sightseeing most of these girls are in. their 20s and 30s with the oldest being. I think 37 they don't have that kind of. money $2,000 again many locals have. stated that the annual salary in. Thailand is $5 to $6,000 $2 $3,000 is a. lot Miss n says she was shocked by the. unhealthy state of some of these young. women that were trapped in there they're. constantly crying and moaning and there. is there's no family there's no. surrogacy there's not a Georgian couple.
in sight Miss n States the entire. compound is run by what she can describe. as quote Chinese gangsters all she knows. is there are constant waves of Chinese. men coming in and out of the buildings. yeah it it was the whole thing and now. nobody is getting their passport back. without providing eggs which a lot of. people feel don't we know this story. already is this not the handmaid's tale. by Margaret Atwood and just to make. sense of it a surrogate I even the best. surrogates that you could find I'm sure.
if you do if you're a celebrity and you. have these private surrogacy programs. it's a lot more but typically in America. it's around. $100,000 and it's a lot but in Georgia. it's a lot less and it's it's a lot more. complicated there's also a higher fee. paid to the actual surrogates versus egg. retrieval it seems like it's more. profitable is the speculation here. cuz people are like why don't they just.
use them as surrogates I'm sure you. could find a lot of families that need. surrogates yeah but they're doing. something else right yes they're taking. their eggs yeah and then selling it to. that's where all the conspiracies come. in now interestingly there are lots of. theories about this case one is what the. hell are they doing with the eggs. there's so many conspiracies that have. come from that question and two some. conspiracies debate if this is even real. if this is has actually even happened or. if someone paid these three young women.
from Thailand to say these things which. is a crazy Theory a crazy accusation a. crazy conspiracy it's kind of an. unhinged conspiracy but it it's mostly. based off of what the Georgian. authorities have said about this case a. few things to note surrogacy is. considered legal in Georgia which means. any surrogacy work with legal contracts. are considered legal obviously there are. stipulations but the Georgian government. is saying there is nothing wrong with. the surrogacy contracts that these Thai. women have they're saying we looked into.
these three taii women we saw the. surrogacy contracts that they have and. there's nothing weird about it they're. not being kidnapped it seems fine the. Georgian authorities further State we. did our due diligence we went to this. so-called Warehouse where the women were. held captive and they State the Georgian. authorities State we spoke to about 70. foreign citizens and none of them aside. from the original Three Thai women that. reported this human egg Farm plus the. additional whistleblower in September of. 2024 none of them complained about being. held against their will okay so.
September 2024 The Whistleblower escapes. her family pays the ransom she goes back. to Thailand and she contacts the pavina. foundation she talks about three. specific women that she befriended in. the facility that she really wants to. help save the pavina foundation works. with interpole and saves those three. women pays their Ransom gets them out. the three women then start providing. more information about the human egg. farm this was like a few weeks ago they. were rescued like January 30th so now. more information is coming out they're. doing interviews.
and now everybody's wondering what about. the other woman we got to get them out. what's happening in the Egg farm this is. when it breaks Global headlines the. Georgian authorities are saying none of. the women that we found in the. warehouses like 70 of them none of them. complained about being held against. their will in fact we saw pictures of. newborn babies taped against the walls. they said that these are babies that. were delivered by residents of the. building so clearly they're being. surrogates they're not being harvested.
for their eggs this is all crazy but the. problem here being even the Georgian. authorities state that none of these. women spoke Georgian and maybe the only. translators available were the ones that. were running the surgy agency so-called. agency they also stated that one woman. who did speak Georgian said we have our. documents with us our passports if we. want to leave we can leave at any time I. don't know why the girls would say that. they're victims of trafficking she. claims that the only reason that that. some people leave is because they can't. conceive the baby they can't get.
pregnant which would defeat the purpose. of being a surrogate we have no clue if. this is said by one of the Tha women. found in the warehouse that is a victim. or a so-called victim or if this is the. statement of one of the ones that are. running the agency we just know that she. speaks Georgian so the Georgian. authorities are saying hey all the Thai. reports that there's a human egg Farm no. we talk to all of them we didn't really. talk to them cuz they don't speak georan. but no no nobody said that they're being. held against their will so you guys are.
wrong which makes everybody a lot more. suspicious this statement has made. things trickier because they're. essentially stating that this is not. real this is not happening at least that. they can't verify now another thing to. note the three women that were rescued. in January 30th they have done an. interview and they're completely masked. clothed they're Anonymous they don't. want to be known so I a lot of people. wonder what is the incentive of them to. make up a crazy lie like this it doesn't.
make any sense so people wonder let's. say the story is real which a lot of. netizens feel like it is right cuz it. just doesn't make sense that it would be. fake why would they be selling the eggs. who are they selling the eggs to cuz. that's a lot of eggs the first sensible. thought neens have is that this is run. by an organized crime group that is very. clearly well established and has the. abilities to run an Enterprise of this. nature now they're holding people h. hostage in a country where these people. do not know the language and they're.
being trafficked for their body parts. their eggs According to some sources a. batch of human eggs is extracted from a. person on the planet every 15 seconds to. be fair most times it's from people who. plan to use their own eggs themselves. through IVF or they're freezing their. eggs for the future but a lot of it is. from donors except they're not donating. anything because like I said they're. getting compensated for their time and. pain they're getting paid so healthwise. there is nothing good that comes from. donating eggs at least not physically.
some doctors have even stated it's more. akin to donating a kidney medically. speaking it's not as harsh it's not as. dangerous as donating a kidney but on. medical charts the donor gets nothing of. positive or neutral value when donating. eggs at least medically speaking. healthwise so naturally the payment is. supposed to bridge that gap for first. time egg donors at $6 to $10,000 in the. US interestingly enough the fees go up. the more fre L you donate eggs if you're. a repeat donor the fees can easily shoot.
to 12. $220,000 because you can prove that. you've had successful retrievals in the. past cuz you can prove hey last time I. had 30. eggs and then they're like okay well we. can at least bet that you're maybe going. to have 30 eggs or 20 eggs this time 25. eggs if you're an Ivy League graduate. you can expect between 20 to $50,000 on. top of that or if you're a rare. ethnicity you can fetch higher prices. but that's in the US there have what.
does reare ethnicity mean um okay at one. point it was like I think it's a trend. honestly sometimes it's Korean sometimes. it's a certain like Eastern European so. I was I fell into a rabbit hole some. places were saying that for example. let's say Korean egg donors are high in. demand it is a mixture of Korean couples. who want Korean children m MH that don't. that cannot use their own eggs because.
it hasn't been working so they're. looking for a Korean egg donor and. perhaps at that time the Korean egg. donor population is very low there's not. a lot of Korean women donating their. eggs okay so that makes the prices a lot. higher or sometimes it could be like a. social thing yeah yeah yeah it could be. like hey I'm really into Korean music. these days I kind of want a Korean baby. yeah I fell into a really strange Rabbit. Hole of that yeah side note I will say. it's more of the former it's more so.
like you want someone who looks like you. or is the same ethnicity as you. typically mhm but that's in the United. States there have been reports that some. parts of the world will only pay out. maybe. $180 for a batch of eggs and I say batch. because that's the terminology I see. used a lot I'm not calling it a batch of. eggs that's just what I've seen online. through sources other articles have. stated that globally you can EXP expect. $1 to. $3,000 obviously it's higher in.
countries like the US and Western. Nations but typically $1 to $3,000 per. batch is a safe assumption let's say. they've got a hundred people a 100. people in there and they're forcibly. donating their eggs let's say they get. anywhere between. $1,500 they're making close to like. $900,000 a year and that's every other. month that these 100 women are donating. eggs if you bump it up to every month.
that would be a lot more and now this. Enterprise or this organization they're. paying for flights hotels they're paying. for the housing for a 100 different. woman for food for Supplies Plus all of. the cost of freezing eggs when you keep. eggs it's not cheap like you can't just. keep them in the fridge you can't just. keep them in a plastic baggie we're. going to go through it but it's it's a. very expensive medical process the first. conspiracy that people have which is I. don't even know if I would call it a. conspiracy judging by the headlines. judging by the news that has come out so. far about the human egg Farm in Georgia.
a lot of people believe that the eggs. are just being sold as donor eggs maybe. there's lying on the part of the. organization maybe they're lying and. saying these eggs were consensually. donated voluntarily donated by these. people from this nation doing this and. they're lying about these eggs or. they're being sold on the black market a. lot of netizens who just read the. headlines believe that it's being sold. on the black Black Market but more more. people that are kind of perusing through.
Reddit and getting into this rabbit hole. about this case they think there's no. way there's no way that they're selling. the eggs on the black market because how. many people reasonably go on the black. market to buy human eggs that's not even. something and then what you buy Black. Market human eggs and then you take them. to a non-black market Clinic what. they're going to be like you're crazy. I'm not going to what am I going to do. with that you can't give me that that's. insane where did you get these eggs so. lot of people believe that if this. organization is truly doing this.
trafficking humans trafficking people to. steal their eggs they must be selling. them to legitimate clinics legitimate. does not mean not shady legitimate does. not mean good I'm just talking. legitimate businesses. llc's they're selling them to actual. clinics who are buying these eggs. probably at a discounted price and then. selling them to the couples that need. eggs and it's crazy because they also. have like apps for this one woman who.
was struggling to find an egg donor she. said she was so obsessed at night she. was scrolling through the the donor app. and it was like scrolling through Tinder. she's reading the specs of each donor. and she said it was a really jolting. experience mentally speaking so yeah. there's a lot to say about the fertility. industry I would say fertility is. complicated in the sense that you want. people to be able to have children who. desperately want children and will be. good parents but the fertility industry. itself is pretty predatory against those.
people those couples they're doing. everything to make a dollar exploiting. all of that so they're like yeah of. course I'll help you again I'm not. saying anything's wrong with wanting. children or wanting to go through IVF. and I think IVF has created so many. beautiful families that's not what I'm. saying I think IVF itself is an. advancement in technology and also I. guess what the human body can do and. what we can achieve with our minds and. like create families for people but at. the same time people are exploiting it.
yeah just. clarifying they think that they're. selling these eggs to these legitimate. clinics Business Week actually tried to. seek data on egg imports and exports in. 15 different countries and they State. it's impossible to trace the flow of. frozen eggs or even the donors. themselves for example they were. tracking a woman from South America who. was donating her eggs into the United. States she actually donated with another. friend of hers the US Business Week went. to the US FDA and said hey can we get a.
log of all the people that have all the. egg Imports human egg Imports they had. one of the women but they didn't list. the other and that's such a clear. discrepancy so truly there's no. foolproof really organized flow of. import and exports of eggs it's really. rather unregulated but then some nzen. question I mean how many Shady. legitimate clinics are there that are. willing to buy eggs like this that. doesn't make any sense and also if you.
store the eggs in a weird way they're. essentially worthless if you store them. the wrong way and it's very tricky to. ship them get it across borders Customs. which means they're paying for the. flight the hotel the housing the. supplies all of this and probably like. hundreds of thousands of dollars of. initial medical equipment that they need. to start this because if you really. factor in they have to be stored these. eggs have to be stored in nitrogen tanks. they have to be kept at like - 320° F.
otherwise the eggs they're not viable. anymore even extracting them you need. specialized ultrasound equipment you. need to get general anesthesia which by. the way the victims have stated that. they were an they were under you have to. get anesthesia you have to get all the. medical equipment you have to get. Personnel you need doctors you need. nurses even if they're working under the. table they're black market doctors they. still have some sort of medical. knowledge and they're getting paid some. sort of fee are they good people no but. you get what I'm saying so they need a.
lot of money which brings a lot of. netizens to believe what if they're not. being sold to clinics what if they're. being sold to research. facilities yeah because maybe clinics. are a little bit more open to the public. research facilities maybe it's not as. public facing and you don't really know. what's. happening maybe they're being sold to. different research facilities across the. world maybe not in the US maybe other. places maybe in the US we don't know but. also I feel like if that one was found.
wouldn't there be more of these. facilities yeah that's what a lot of. netizens say there is no such thing as a. one-off yeah but again I don't know. right I think every conspiracy. afterwards gets a little bit crazier so. we go from egg egg donation selling to. regular clinics then we go into research. facilities then some people believe that. these eggs are being used to create. babies. that they're going to sell into human.
trafficking it gets crazier and crazier. yeah so that that's not really a fleshed. out Theory I mean I don't really find. any proof other than just really whacked. out conspiracy theorists on Twitter that. are really like no they're making a baby. Farm somewhere this is just step one of. the manufacturing process they're going. to take the eggs and then put them. somewhere else and then they're going to. create an embryo and then they're going. to create these children those children. are going to be sold into trafficking so. it's definitely a rabbit hole that I. wouldn't go down and there's no proof of.
that then you have another group of. people that think wait none of this. makes sense so first of all why would. they let these women out if they pay. Ransom if you pay the ransom they get. out they can do exactly what happened. they can alert someone about the black. market business and then their whole gig. is up but one nzen tries to argue I mean. maybe they're so corrupt maybe the. organization has ties with polit like. political figures maybe they have ties. with the government so even if you get. out No One Believes you no one's going.
to do anything hence even the Georgian. authorities said nothing H is happening. here that's a nison theory but others. say no it just doesn't make sense like. why would they pay the ransom why would. they get out and the US state. Department's trafficking iners report. ranked Georgia as a tier one country in. 2023 meaning they do everything to stop. human trafficking does that mean human. trafficking does not take place in. Georgia no but the US is say they're. doing a good job at trying to curb human. trafficking so is it really that their.
government is corrupt or like what's. going on one comment reads I'm not. saying this didn't happen but I have yet. to see when reputable news organizations. report on this so I'm going to reserve. judgment for now think about the. logistics of forced egg donors you would. need highgrade tanks to store eggs and. liquid nitrogen weeks and weeks of IVF. processes and then where are you selling. them to I can't imagine the IVF Egg. Black Market is particularly good you. know so what what's happening I am open. to being proven wrong but I want news.
coverage from a well-known respectable. news. organization I will say the coverage on. this is incredibly slim I don't know if. it's because everything in the US is. overpowering on a global scale there's. been so much going on in the US. political sphere maybe it's that maybe. it's the fact that there's just not. enough details maybe it's the fact that. the Georgian authorities have said no. this is not happening versus the Thai. authorities are like no something is. happening and it's become a little. little bit of a diplomatic strange. concern other people on Reddit have said.
maybe it's the fact that Georgia is such. a small country and it's interesting. because I do agree that might have. played into it a lot of people read the. headlines and started freaking out. saying oh my gosh this is happening in. the United States once they found out. it's not in the United States and it's. in this country of Georgia they said oh. it's not in the US MH which is crazy. because if it's still happening. somewhere in the world you should care. about it but they're like oh it's not in. the US so they decided it was not. important I don't know but I will say it.
is strange to the point where other. conspiracies have popped off they said. what if this has never happened and it's. actually a setup there was one Chinese. account that was posting all over. Chinese social media saying that this. whole story is fake there were two. Chinese surrogacy agencies in Georgia. that were I guess duking it out if you. will and one of them decided to take. their competition down so they hired. these three taii women to make up these.
crazy allegations that they're. harvesting human eggs at the other. facility and they won't have competition. anymore so a lot of people initially. believed that but when you click on that. Chinese account they don't have any. other post but that which is weird yeah. it's very strange wow I feel like this. is the surface surface surface of this. whole thing I don't know personally I I.
don't know maybe I'm so far into. believing in the craziest things that. humans can do because of this line of. interest and work that I'm in but I just. don't see why anyone would. lie even the competition Theory doesn't. make sense it's such a far-fetched. Theory I don't know why people would lie. about it and maybe I'm naive I just. don't see how it's a lie I don't see. what anyone would gain from this I don't.
see a single party that gains I don't. see the Thai government being like yes. this is great we're gaining from this I. don't see the pavina foundation gaining. from this I don't see the three women. the four women gaining from this I don't. see anybody gaining from this there's no. hey donate money to me because I need to. stop this tyde of human egg trafficking. yeah there's nothing it's so strange. and the more that I was going down the. rabbit hole the more the egg industry is.
insane it's like a billion dooll. industry and a lot of strange things are. happening all across the world Maria. from Greece is having her egg stolen UC. Irvine was using eggs of other patients. to make other women pregnant there's a. lot of shady stuff happening so I just. don't see how it's not happening mhm I. don't know maybe I'm wrong though I will. say there is not news coverage from any. of the big mainstream media outlets in. the United States but there are from big.
news outlets in Thailand nens have been. responding to this case the way that you. would imagine some are just relieved. that it's not happening in the US which. again I think it's crazy other people. are making chicken egg correlations. writing the egg shortage has gone too. far or simply writing human caviar but I. will say most netizens have had a normal. sympathetic albeit enraged response. because it does feel like if this is. true we're all heading straight towards.
handmaid's tail we're bypassing all. security measures and just going. straight to Margaret Atwood and that. seems like it's becoming a reality one. nzen writes I did IVF twice and yeah the. whole thing just on a physical level is. really hard emotionally it was worse. physically though hard the medications. you take during the stemming phase which. is stimulating the follicles to make. your ovaries produce more eggs it's got. a range of side effects like constant. severe headaches mood changes mood. swings including anger depression the.
physical discomfort toward the end. before the retrieval it it's insane I. can't even imagine what these women went. through I was mentally and physically. done after two cycles and I was. willingly doing it I was doing it so I. could have kids being forced to repeat. that monthly it's. torture other comments read this is so. horrific I have a hard time coming to. terms with the fact that I'm not reading. a dystopian fiction anymore another. writes the fertility industry is already. deeply unethical in many ways catering. almost exclusively to the wealthy while.
exploiting poor and marginalized women. as surrogates and as egg donors but this. case is beyond even that level of quiet. exploitation this is out and out human. trafficking medical torture and slavery. to which someone theorizes if they. hadn't escaped they would have ended up. being harvested for their organs too I. expect or another theory which is very. dark to think about someone writes with. global birth rates dropping this kind of. thing will only. or another one grimly writes as a father. to daughters I guess I have to add this.
to my list of potential dangers my girls. will face for sake the is getting long. or another one says wow yet another. thing a bear would never do to me and. one comment that I deeply resonate with. the only good type of human traffickers. are the dead ones and that is today's. case what are your thoughts on this one. let me know in the comments. and stay safe I will see you guys in the. next one.
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