JRE MMA Show #180 with Daniel Rodriguez

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Holland fight. Actually, I was I was in. I was celebrating. I was over in San. Diego. Um had some drinks and decided, you know what? Let's go to Let's go to. TJ. See, >> always a phrase that is regretted. When. you're in San Diego and you're drinking, you could walk there. [ __ ]. >> Yeah. Yeah. Literally. So, um decided to. go to to TJ for the for the night, you. know, go celebrate my win. And I was. obviously in celebration mode and I had. an ounce of weed in the car, you know,

and I've been across the border a. hundred times, bro. Never had no issues, never had no problems, never got. stopped, pulled over. That's the last. thing I would even think is that. >> I thought we was legal in Mexico. >> I thought I thought so, too. Like here, >> I thought everything's decriminalized. down there. >> Uh, apparently not, man. the the the. laws are like crazy crazy strict over. there, you know, and I've been in. situations before where I could like. just offer some money and get out the. situation, you know, like 500 bucks at.

at the most, you know, they'll just let. me on my way, but got pulled over at the. border and the border inspection. um found the weed in my in my my. backpack and I was thinking I was going. to be in that in that situation where I. could bribe my way out of it cuz Mexico. I've been there before and and and I've. been in these situations. And no, man, I. thought, you know, they took me to jail. that night and uh I was thinking, "All.

right, I'm just going to be here for the. weekend. I'll get out Monday, you know, go to court." And they're like, "No, we'll see you in a month." I'm like, "A. month?" You know, like, "Why? It's just. weed." You know what I mean? And um. yeah, eight months later, >> holy [ __ ]. >> Yeah, dude. Jamie, can you please look. up what the the laws are in Mexico for. marijuana? Cuz man, I was reading. something just a few years ago. How they. Here it goes. Marijuana is. decriminalized for personal recreational.

use in Mexico, but there's no legal. commercial market and buying it or. selling it remains illegal for tourists. and visitors. Possession is strictly. prohibited. >> Wait, what the hell? >> It's tourists and visitors. So for everybody else, you would be. good. Like if you were a Mexican. resident, you would have been good. It. looks like according to this. uh personal limits can possess up to. five grams. Uh and up to 28 grams is.

decriminalized. How many grams are in an. ounce? It's 1 ounce. 28. >> Yeah. So it was a it was approximately. 28 grams. >> So approximately you should have been. decriminalized. But the thing is, I. think it's if you live there, the border, transporting marijuana, including edibles and concentrates. across the US Mexico border is either in. either direction, is a serious federal. offense. US Customs and Border. Protection, strictly enforces federal. laws prohibiting the import export of. cannabis. But wait a minute, that's.

that's US. But what about Mexico? You. got arrested by Mexican police, right? >> Yeah, I got I got arrested on. >> either direction. Wow. But but I feel. like if you got arrested by Mexico. anyway, tourists, while small possession. is technically decriminalized for. Mexican residents, the Mexican. government explicitly prohibits tourists. from possessing or consuming drugs and. you could face serious jail time. So. that's crazy. Like people would go over. there going, "Hey, no worries. I'm in. Mexico. It's decriminalized here, but.

not for a [ __ ] tourist.". >> Dude, they were trying to give me six. years, bro. >> Oh my god. >> Six years. And I had we had to do all kinds of. stuff for me to get out, dude. Like. >> did the UFC get involved? >> Um Hunter did um my management did reach. out to uh Hunter and they couldn't do. anything. I guess nothing. >> The reason why [clears throat]. somebody who could get a little of that. >> All right, we'll get into that. We'll. get into [laughter] that. That's cuz I. I'm out. I'm out, you know. And um.

>> so I learned real quick how corrupt the. the system is over there. Everybody's. trying to get trying to get paid. And. the reason why that I was in there so. long is I guess at the time where I got. arrested, the the the whole uh judicial. system was going through an election at. the time. So it was new judges um that. so all the all the judges that were like. taking bribes and stuff before they had. all got. they they switched out the judges. So.

the new judges were there were like, "All right, we just got here. We're not. trying to take no, you know, we're. trying to play it by the book and get. comfortable. So, I was supposed to get. released in December and and. I guess I don't even know if if I could. even really. >> Don't get in trouble. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Don't get in trouble. It ain't. worth it. You can tell me later. [laughter]. if it's anything super crazy. >> It's very corrupt. It's very corrupt in. there. But, um, you know,

it's it's it's crazy, dude. like even. being in there. Um, so my whole experience, my whole. experience in there was like so crazy. >> How well do you speak Spanish? >> I'm I'm I'm I'm a expert now. I'm like. fluent. >> because of that experience or before? >> Well, I had already been obviously. >> I had already known I already know. Spanish, but being in there, [clears throat]. >> it's like became. >> fluent. Yeah. But thank God you could. speak it. Imagine if like I got arrested. in master I'd be [ __ ].

>> Yeah. So, when I first got there, um, and when I went to court the first time, one of the guards recognized me and he's. like, "You I'm in handcuffs and [ __ ] and. he's like, "Yo, can I get a picture?". I'm like, "What? [laughter]. What?". So, I'm right [laughter] there taking. pictures with the guards, man. >> So surreal. >> Yeah. >> Oh my god. You're [ __ ] top. [clears throat] UFC contender in cuffs, in jail. the [ __ ] guard want to take.

a picture with you. Wow. >> While I'm in handcuffs [snorts]. and the other inmates were like looking. around like, "What the [ __ ] Who is this. guy?" You know, cuz like the the guard. was like, "Yo, this is this is such and. such." You know? So, um, as we're. getting transported to the jail, which. was the worst. I mean, I've been in jail. before. I've like I I'm like from the. age of 15 to like 23, I was constantly. in and out of jail, you know, I'm from. LA, you know, um I was, you know, gang.

member and and you know, living in the. hood and uh this time around was a whole. different experience. Um, one, I'm in a. foreign country and uh, so I get there. and they put us like in the in the. processing area and the processing area. is like. probably about this this big and like 20. dudes in there all sleeping on the. floor. Two dudes per bunk. Three three.

um, on a three bunk. three levels bunks. And um I was there. for like the first like the first 10. days. >> And it was hell, bro. It was the worst. Like I had I don't know what kind of. bugs there was in there, but they were. like biting up my whole body. I had like. like just just bite I don't know what it. was, dude. It was like I don't know. >> Bugs probably something like that. >> Yeah. Probably probably bed bugs or. something. And um right when I had first.

got there, one of the inmates that saw. that seen the guards taking pictures of. me. was like we were right there. conversating the whole time. And he he. had he had just got released from there, but he had did 5 years. He was out for. like two weeks, got arrested with the. gun and then came back. So he's like, "Hey, [clears throat] I'm it's like I'm. I'm going try to get you out of here, you know." And um over there. the guards had tried to charge me seven. grand, bro, to get me out of that to get. me out of that cell and to move me into.

like a better a better place cuz over. there if you got if you got some money, you'll be all right. You know, and um so. right before that happened, the dude. that was like, "Yo, I'm going to come. back for you, but don't even worry about. it.". >> So, but how does this work? Does the. guard come up to you and go, "Hey, I can. get you in a cell, but it'll cost you. $7,000." Yeah. >> They come up to you and tell you that. >> Yeah. So, the dude that I that was that was that I. had got to the the prison with, he comes. back down and he's like, "Hey." He's.

like, "Hey, um. the guards came, they pulled me out and. they pull me they bring me to a whole. different like section of of um of the. prison, third the third floor and the. second building. And I go up there and. [clears throat] I'm escorted by the. guards and there's like a curtain. It's. like a a a curtain covering like the. tier and I'm like, "What the [ __ ] is. going on?" Like, "Why is there a. curtain?" And I get in there and. [clears throat] they pull me to this. dude and this dude's like, "Oh, you're. you're a UFC fighter." You know, turns.

out dude's like head of the cartel, you. know, like a cartel leader. And he's. like he's like, "Oh." He's like, "I want. to just show you around a little bit, let you know how how we're running. things over here." You know, kind of. just gave me the rundown. And uh this. dude had it made, you know. I I get. there and there's TVs in the [ __ ]. cell. Dude has a PlayStation. He has. like like a whole bunch of just all the. amenities you can think of, you know. Um. he's like, [clears throat] "Yeah, he's.

like showing me around and [ __ ] Kind of. kind of showing me off. He's like, "Hey, there guys, look. Look at this guy. Look. at this guy." You know, he's a UFC. fighter, you know? And I'm like, "All. right." You know, what's going on here? You know, and like you know, cuz it's. jail, dog. like I'm like [clears throat] if. anything happens I'm [ __ ] use all my. experience to survive this [ __ ]. >> And. so he's like just pretty much give me. the rundown. He's like yo uh he's like I. run in here. This is like pretty much. you know our.

our this is our home, you know. So that. dude was facing. some charges. He got released and um he. was he was facing some charges of um. him and his like 13 dudes. He got. arrested with his whole crew. Him and 13. dudes were all in that tier. So he had. all his whole his whole squad with them. and they had got arrested for dressing. up as as um like government officials or.

like military dudes and they would go. like raid dope houses and and and take. their drugs, whatever. So they had got. it all arrested for that and they were. facing some serious time and. [clears throat] and I'm I'm over here. like I just got arrested for a [ __ ]. ounce of weed, bro. This is crazy. He's. like, "Oh no, you'll be out soon. Don't. even worry about it. But if you want, we. could get you we can get you like. accommodated and you could come up here. with us, you know, like you be my. cellmate or whatever. You could be. wherever you want." And I'm like, "All.

right." He's like, "Yeah, but uh it's. going to cost you a little bit of. money." I was like, "Oh yeah, how much?". Like 3,000. And I looked at the guard, the guard that was trying to charge me. seven. I was like, he said seven. He's. like, nah, no, no, no, no. He's trying. to get more extra money out of you like, "But you do got to like pay to get up. here and like kind of like pay rent a. little bit, you know, to the guards.". So I'm like, "All right." Yeah. Yeah. >> Wild. >> So I'm like, "All right, cool." So. immediately I I was like, "Yeah, let's. do it." So they give like this brand new.

like Nike tracksuit. >> Oh [ __ ]. >> Yeah. And I'm like, "All right." He's. like, "Well, come come up here. tomorrow." So, I get there. Um, I get there and then he's like, "Yeah, just be my soulmate." So, um, I pretty much ended up being like. this guy's like I end up getting the the. feeling like I was like his protection. kind of like or like, you know, like cuz. when we go to yard, I just be like he'. be like, "Hey, walk with me." Like, and. I would kind of like just I got the. impression like like like all right, I'm.

his cellmate, you know? Um, like I got this guy's back, you know. He. got my back, I got his. And I really. trusted him, you know, and and and. that's one hard thing to do in jail, but. like you catch vibes off people real. easy. >> Mhm. >> You know, and and and. Yeah, dude. It was just a crazy ass. experience, dude. I ended up. um we ended up working out with the with. the working it out with the with the. guards to to get me some [ __ ] boxing.

gloves, dude. I ended up getting some. boxing gloves in there, um some some. mits, and it just so happened that the. dude that I was sell, he had a little. bit of boxing experience. So, he he had. been a boxer before. So, I was like, "Oh, perfect." You know, and he actually. knew how to hold pads and stuff. So, so. I ended up spending this whole time. >> Please tell me you didn't spar him. >> No, [laughter] he wanted to. Uh. >> no, no, >> that that's how it goes south. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. I'm glad you're smart. [laughter].

>> You know what I'm saying? Like you said. boxing gloves. I'm like, "Oh, please. tell me this doesn't end the way I think. it ends.". >> No. No. Yeah. We ended up we ended up. actually being really cool. >> And um Yeah, dude. I ended up pretty. much spending this whole time like in a. boxing fight camp, you know? >> Oh, wow. >> Yeah. I remember I I even I even made. like a a makeshift double end bag. What. I did was like I I baldled up like a. bunch of plastic bags like really like. like made it real tight and like so it's.

like hard. Threw it in a sock. Um I was. able to to to buy um from the guards. like uh. >> bungee cord. >> Yeah. Bungee cord and then set that up. and Oh, nice. >> Yeah. And I made a heavy bag because. they had like these big gallons of water. >> and and I I got the gallon of water and. I wrapped it with like the um the mat. from the from the bed. So I was and I. just threw it in a bag and I and we had. like a pull-up bar in our in our cell. and I made a I made a heavy bag out of.

that and then whenever we would go to. yard I would just spend the whole time. running that yard and I was just trying. to do everything I could do to try and. stay in shape, man. And it just time. went time went on and time went on and. time went on and um. >> what kind of food did they get you in. his cell? >> It was all junk food, dude. >> Still him? >> Yeah. Um, it was all junk food like. chips, noodles. >> Damn. >> Soda, you know, water, condiments. >> So, no protein, >> none, none, none, none whatsoever. And I.

didn't think about that part, you know, because I was working out like crazy. And I was getting shredded, but as time. went on, my m like when I got out, I was. skinny as hell, bro. I was skinny as. hell. And and the only source of protein. would probably be soy. >> Jesus Christ. >> Yeah. So they'll give like. >> Couldn't you bribe someone to bring in. some [ __ ] meat if you're the cartel? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the. thing. Like it was crazy. Like so. towards the end towards like the the the.

final end of it. Um I guess the guard. started cracking down on on like a lot. of the stuff that was going on. So we. started to to lose a lot of those. amenities that we were getting in the. beginning. And uh and I I was just, you know, when I got out, I was just uh. malnourished as hell, bro. I'll show you. a picture later like of what I looked. like when I got out. Completely. different person. >> How much weight did you lose? >> Um I didn't really lose that much.

weight, but it was just like more my. muscles were just. >> Were you thinking about going to 55? Were you like, damn, I might be able to. make 55. [laughter]. >> I made starve me. I've made 155 one 155. one time in my career. >> Dude, you made 55. That must have been. hell. >> Yeah, it was it was the worst fight camp. ever. Um, it was all based on just. losing the weight. Losing the weight. And then I was just so I remember after. the I made 155,

>> I didn't even want to go to the gym for. like a month, bro. I was like, dude, I. need to this this like my body was just. done, bro. >> Yeah, you're killing your body. >> Yeah. What is this? >> Oh, yeah. That's some of the workouts I. was doing while I was in prison. >> But no protein, unfortunately. >> Yeah, but no protein. So, I was getting. pretty shredded like when in in in that. like period in time, that was when we. had like a lot of like we had food and. and everything was cool. And if you. notice Oh, look at that. The double end.

bed. That's nice, dude. >> Yeah, dude. And like you can see the TV. in the back. >> on the the PlayStation. But I mean, it. wasn't. >> Dude, you're looking good. >> Yeah. >> Tighten those hands up. Nice. I bet. [laughter]. >> Yeah, man. It was just like it was like. a whole experience. And it was crazy. because this guy, he'll be like, you. know, the guards would come, he'd be. like, "Hey, uh, leave my door open.". Yeah. And the guards will actually leave. this door open. So, like we were able to. like walk around the tier and go talk to. other people. Like me. I I I kept to.

myself a lot. Like I've been in jail. like a ton of times before. And I. learned I learned uh easily that you. know you'll. you you'll go like along. uh you you'll get by if you just mind. your own business and not get involved. in [ __ ]. >> and not get involved with things. So. like I would just stick to myself, you. know, and and just, >> you know, just get my workout on and and. and. >> avoid trouble. >> Avoid trouble, you know. But it was.

crazy to see firsthand. how the cartel operates. And it's crazy, man. They got their hands in everything. over there. >> Of course, >> everything. >> You know, there there was 37. assassinations in Mexico last election. >> 37? >> Yeah. >> Different political people. And I was. talking to Ed Calderon. Do you know who. he is? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. He's uh Ed Manifesto on Instagram. He was he used to work for the Mexican. government and then he he became an.

American citizen and he was involved. with prosecuting the cartel, going after. them and stuff like that. And he was. essentially saying that like the entire. judicial system, all the mayors, everyone if they get in, they're cartel. members. Like no one gets in. No one is. a no one is a mayor unless they're in. the cartel. And when they're getting. assassinated, it's cartel. assassinations. It's one cartel, you. know, wants their guy in and another. cartel wants their guy in and they just. shoot the other dude.

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And he was in there for and they were. they were just like telling me about all. these things. I'm like, "Dude, like. everybody is involved in this [ __ ] It's. crazy, you know?" And and and over here, like if if you kill a [ __ ] cop, they're like they're coming after you. But over there, you know, I guess it's. just another thing. Killing killing. >> a lower tier than the cartel. That's. what it is. The cartel have more money, more power, more influence. >> Yeah.

>> And it's crazy how like murders just. they're not even that big of a deal over. there, [sighs]. >> you know? While I was in there, I I I I. I was reading or I saw that Mexico has. the Guinness World Record for missing. missing persons. >> Holy [ __ ] dude. >> Yeah. Yeah. And it was crazy. There's so. many like there was so many hit men in. there. It was crazy. But, you know, I. didn't I didn't have I didn't get no. [ __ ] from nobody, you know. Everybody. was like cool as hell. >> Well, that's awesome. Well, you're an. easy to get along with dude.

>> Yeah. >> Luckily. >> Yeah. >> Did anybody ask you to train them? Actually, [clears throat]. dude, there's some dogs in there, man. I. bet there's this one guy in particular. I'm like, "Dude, you got to [ __ ]. start fighting like and he's like he's. he was uh one of one of the military. dudes and he's just a little [ __ ]. machine, dude." And in the time that I. was there, he got he got really good. really quick, you know? I'm like, "Dude, you got to like go to the gym down in TJ. uh that inim gym, >> I had I had mentioned like, yo, even. when I got when I when I got released,

um. that uh man, we we did a whole lot of. things to try to get me out, man. Um. there's a ton of fighters even try to. pull some strings for me like Yaya. Rodriguez, you know, uh Brandon Moreno. He's from TJ and and and nobody nobody. could help me out, man. Everybody tried. to pull strings for me and. >> nobody came up with a number. >> Did they? >> Eventually. >> What was How much was was the number?

Can you tell? >> Uh I don't want you to get in trouble. >> Nah. >> No, don't get in trouble. >> Yeah, but it was Talk to me later. >> It was hefty. It was. >> I bet. >> it was not cheap. >> I bet. >> it was not cheap at all. >> I bet. >> You know, >> everybody wants to get paid. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It was crazy. Uh crazy experience, dude. and um. to get out of jail, you know, and then. and then now I have this fight I'm. headlining headlining um UFC Serbia.

first time in Serbia fighting Euros. medic. >> When is that fight? >> August 1st. >> Nice. >> Yeah. To get out of to get to go through. all that and then and then to have this. opportunity. is just crazy. And to be here to be here. is just is just crazy, man. because I. didn't I didn't think I was going to get. I wasn't sure if I was going to get out, man. I thought I was. >> For good reason. A lot of people don't. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You know, United States prison system is. [ __ ] too. But nothing like Mexico's.

Everybody that I've talked to that has. had any experience in Mexican jail and. they're like, "Dude, it's not good.". >> Yeah. No, man. Uh. it it was it was crazy, bro. >> I just can't believe the cartel can't. sneak meat in. >> We did sometimes. >> Yeah, sometimes. Yeah, we did some like. we had they would bring us groceries, bro. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. >> Because that's the first thing that I. would want, man. I would like look what. do we got to do to these guards? What. kind of car do you drive, dog? [laughter].

>> Let's upgrade that [ __ ] We got. to do something. I can't be eating. noodles. >> Yeah, man. [snorts]. [clears throat] Especially as hard as. you work out. >> Yeah, I was I was working out like two, three, three hard hard workouts a day, you I'll do. Um, so [clears throat] I'm. kind of programmed like like to to just. work out, you know. I think I think from. my prior jail experiences before, the. only positive thing that I think that. helped me in that whole everything that. I that I've been through is like when.

you're in jail, like I personally I'm. like I would I would think like dude, you you you got to be strong. You got to. be able to defend yourself. if you want. Like that's that's my whole reason for. for staying in shape, you know. When I. started um doing MMA, it was just to to. to be able to defend myself, you know, in situations like if I ever did go to. jail, you know, and the only. thing that I positive that I that I took. from that is like when I got when I when.

I would get released from prison prior, um I just want to work out. I'm already. programmed to to just work out all day, you know. So once I found MMA, I was. like, "Oh, this is perfect, you know, and and. >> How old were you when you first started. training?". >> 25. >> Wow. >> Yeah. First. >> Yeah, dude. >> You turned into a UFC contender. That's. very impressive. >> Not a lot of guys started late. Did you. have any sports experience before that?

>> None, bro. >> Nothing. >> None. >> That's crazy. >> None. I had I had been in no [ __ ]. though. I had been in probably around. 200 street fights already, including all. my jail experience, you know, when I was. in juvenile hall, I was a straight. knucklehead, bro. Like I was fighting. like every other day. Um, and it was. just it became just fun. Just fun. Like. if if like you were like a a like a. tough looking dude like, "Hey, what's. up, man? Want to scrap or what, bro?".

Like, you know, I just he's like, "Why?". Like cuz you're big, bro. I just want to. fight you. You [laughter]. >> Yeah. And And. >> with no training? You had no training at. all? >> No, no training, man. Just just just. want to just want to learn how to fight. I just want to be. >> by fighting. >> Yeah. Yeah. So. >> that's a crazy way to learn. >> Yeah, dude. Just And like dude, you. can't I mean like imagine getting in a. fight with your cellmate. Like that's. some crazy [ __ ]. >> That's crazy [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> You got to sleep together. >> Sleep with one eye open, bro. Like,

[laughter]. >> did you sleep at all? Yeah. >> Yeah. And um yeah, so that's that's the. only experience I had prior to to. starting MMA. And then I remember I I. stopped going to jail when I was like. 23. When I when I stopped going to jail, I. started having kids and I'm like, "All. right, got to start I got to stop gang. banging." Because I used to think going. to jail was cool. >> Real. I used to think it was cool. because you get out and you just have. like a little more respect like like I.

thought I thought it was cool. I thought. like like oh going to jail makes you a. badass, you know? But once I started. having kids, I realized like all right, I got to take care of I got human beings. I got to [ __ ] I got to take care of. and raise, you know? So I started. looking for every any possible way to. try to live a decent life. And I I've. tried everything, man. I've had every. job he could think of and but I've even. had good jobs before and I've lost them,

you [clears throat] know, by just being. a knucklehead and going back to jail. And I remember I got out of prison one. time and my cousin hits me up and he's. like, "Yo, uh, come to my house, bro. We're we're going to watch uh some. fights and barbecue and stuff." I was. like, "All right, yeah, dope." I was. like, "Who's fighting?" He's like, "Um, some dude Rampage." I'm like, "Who the. [ __ ] Rampage?". So, I get there and that's when Forest. Griffin had fought um Rampage won the. the light heavyweight title and I'm.

like, "Yo, this is amazing, bro." And. then I fell in love with Chuck Liddell. and I'm like, "Dude, this he's just like. me, bro. He's like knocking dudes out, you know?". And then I just obsessed with it. I just. obsessed with it. >> So, that was your first exposure to MMA? I had seen it before, like when it was. Tank Abbott and early days. >> Yeah, in the early days, but it never. caught my attention like because I had. always been a boxing fan. I'm a huge. boxing fan and and I grew up watching.

boxing like um all of like majority of. my family functions growing up they were. all boxing events like Oscar de la Hoya, Mike Tyson, uh Manny Pacquiao, Floyd. Mayweather and and I was just I loved. boxing, you know, and I remember I mean. I did have a little bit of experience. before going into MMA cuz when I lived. in the hood, I would always have boxing. gloves and I would always make my homies. fight each other like when we're all. hanging out like hey you go with him you.

go with him because like you know we're. all boys and I want them to like I. always wanted them to to to. like hey in case in case anything. happens in case we're ever all out and. we get in a rumble with somebody or. anything like that like try to make my. homies more tougher you know cuz like. hey you guys got to have my back I got. yours and that's just that's that's just. something we just did you know or like. well we'll just go body shots body. punches you know. >> right. >> and just fight each other So that's kind. of my background, bro, to be honest with.

you. And and yeah, man, I just I just I. just carried that into into the gym when. I first went. I remember. >> What was the first gym you went to? >> It's [clears throat] called It was. called Tap Out in downtown LA. >> Okay. >> At the time, I think that's um I I was. training with Eddie Bravo and and he had. moved in 10th last. So that's when I. first when I first started, I wanted to. box and um. >> I remember the tap out gym very well. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. It was a great gym. >> Yeah. And and I remember when I first started.

going there, I was working construction. I was I was working on a on a highrise. in downtown LA. And [clears throat]. and I would um pass by every day. I was. like, "Man, I want to go in there, you. know, but I never like would go in. there. I would just pass by and I'll get. home and talk to my mom like, "Man, there's this gym called Tap Out. I. really want to go, you know." She's. like, "Oh yeah, but I would talk about. it all the time." But I never had like I. don't know, you know, it's a kind of. nervous. It's kind of nervous going.

walking into a gym for the first time. and you don't know like what to expect. or but I was just a fan and so I walked. uh actually. the the way I got started was it was it. was our anniversary. and as a gift she gave me a gym. membership. and then I went to the gym and the the. coaches were like yo dude like who is. this guy you know but when I first went. in there I was like so raw and just so.

like street fight street fighting. experience but I had power. I had some. power and um you know I just fell in. love with it and the the the coaches. were like even the days I wouldn't show. up cuz in the beginning of it. I was still like still had that. knucklehead mentality. I'll still be out. partying with my friends or not show up. to the gym and coaches will actually. call me like yo where where are you at? You need to be in the gym. You need to. be training. So I guess what what helped. me in the beginning was my actually my. coaches like really noticing that I had.

like a talent, you know, I had I had. potential. and I just obsessed with it, man, and. fell in love with the whole training. experience. And and I remember my first. time trying jiu-jitsu. It was a skinny. [ __ ] skinny dorky looking dude was. like, "Hey, you need to [laughter] you. need to come train jiu-jitsu, man. Come. train." I was like, "Nah." Cuz I. remember like before I watched you, I. was like, "Oh, man. Wrestling is gay, dude." [laughter].

Like, "Dude, wrestling is gay." Trying. to watch that, you know? And then. [snorts]. obviously like you go through that. experience. I like, "All right." So the. skinny dude is like, "Come on, man. Just. try it out. I bet you can't, you know, I. bet you I could make you tap or. whatever." Like, "Nah, no." He went, strangled me, you know. I'm like, "Oh, hell no. I hate losing, bro." So I was. like, and there there's there's two. different kinds of people. There's. people that will get their ass whooped. and you're like, "No, this ain't for. me." Or. um you get your ass whooped, you're. like, "Oh, I never want that to happen.

again." You know? So, I would show up. every day determined like, "One day I'm. going to one day I'm going to win. One. day I'm going to get him. One day I'm. going to get him." And that honestly. kept me kept me in the game. You know, >> it's amazing how little tiny dudes can. [ __ ] you up, [laughter]. >> dude. That's the last thing I expected. I was like, "What?" Jiu-jitsu is the. only thing that like you know in martial. arts movies there was always this myth. that the little guy can [ __ ] up all the. bigger guys. >> Yeah. >> But with striking that's hard. Power is. real, size is real, mass is real.

>> There's there's too, you know, too many. variables. If a guy knows how to throw a. good one, two, you might be [ __ ] He. hits you in the clinch, you can't get. away from his clinch, he's too strong, he clubs you, you're [ __ ]. >> But jiu-jitsu, man, there's no lucky. punches in jiu-jitsu. And that's what's. crazy when a little guy just annihilates. you. It's so humbling. >> My first experience uh was a dude who. was a purple belt. I was a white belt. and uh he was my size. I was like, "This. dude's my size. Like this isn't that a. bigger dude. This is going to be, you.

know, competitive." No, he just raped. me. Just did whatever the [ __ ] he wanted. to do to me. Arm barred me, triangled. me. And I remember leaving going, I am. so delusional. I had this idea in my. head, you know, that I knew how to. fight. And then until I started doing. jiu-jitsu, I was like, I don't know. anything. I'm helpless. Like completely. helpless. >> Yeah. >> But you know, like you, the the the. smart thing to do like what you did is. just go, I want to learn that, >> you know, and you having the courage to.

do that, you know, especially as a guy. who didn't have any martial arts. experience at all. Just like throw. yourself into it. It's very difficult to. do, man. And especially at 25. >> Yeah. Yeah, cuz by 25 like Jon Jones had. already been a UFC champion and defended. it multiple times, you know? It's like. by the time you're starting out, so many. guys are like in the middle of their. career. >> Yeah. So, that's one thing that I that I. I've always thought about um and those. like why I work so hard is like I feel.

like I have to catch up to these dudes. that have been doing this their whole. life, >> you know, like like dudes have been in. the gym since they were kids doing. karate and boxing. You know, there's. there is a thing though about having a. lot of street fights. There's a mental. edge to being in a lot of conflict and a. lot of combat. One things I've always. noticed about you when you fight, you're. very calm. Like when you get in there, you're very relaxed. Like, and it's like. life experience, you know? That's a. factor. >> Yeah. I just feel like in an MMA fight,

it's it's a safe environment. Like. believe it or not, to me it's safe, right? >> You know, cuz I've been in I've been in. sit cuz if anything goes wrong, the rest. right there like, "All right, there. That's it. It's done." You know, it's a. fair fight, >> you know. Uh I've been in situations. where I don't know if I'm going to live, >> right? >> You know, if I don't survive this, I. might die. >> Yeah. >> You know, and and I think that I carry. that a lot, you know, while while I. fight. And that's why I look so calm.

because um I've been I'm calm and. >> hectic sit like. >> Yeah. It's not the worst thing you've. experienced. That's for a lot of. fighters. It's the most dangerous thing. they've ever experienced. >> Yeah. >> When they step into that octagon, they. close that door and they're looking. across this octagon and another train. killer like, "Oh boy." Like this is the. scariest thing that's ever happened to. them. >> Yeah. >> So there's a mental benefit that you. have for having all those street fights. And even though you didn't start until. late, man, the mental game might be most. of the fighting,

>> you know. >> Yeah, man. When when when I step in. there, I'm just. I'm just happy to be there, you know? Like I I I'm lucky to be out here. I'm. lucky to be have my freedom. I'm lucky. to be alive, you know? So, when I'm when. I'm walking out to a fight, like I just. feel I just feel happy, dude. I'm just. I'm just It's just happy happiness. like, you know, cuz while I'm backstage, I'm like thinking, how did I get here, dude? You know, like. I'm just how the [ __ ] did I do this? How. did I make it this far? You know,

>> and you know, like a situation like like. this like where I'm fresh out of fresh. out of jail, you know, and and. I'm like, dude, like. main event in Serbia against a guy from. Serbia is crazy, bro. But you know what? Just live live that [ __ ] man. Like like. I told myself like, "Dude, this is your. opportunity to to tell like to like this. shit's a movie, bro. Like my life is.

crazy.". >> It is a movie if you think about it. I. mean, very few people live that life. In. and out of jail many times, locked up in. Mexico for eight months, never knowing. if you're going to get out. Next thing. you know, you're headlining a UFC card. >> Yeah, man. Sitting here. >> Main event. >> Yeah. sitting here on the Joe Rogan. Experience, you know, telling my story. is just, you know, uh, >> where's Euros Medic ranked? Is he above. you or both? >> He's number 13. >> What are you at? >> 15. >> Yeah. So, both of you guys top. contenders. >> I'm surprised throughout that whole.

process they kept me in the rankings. >> Wow. Good respect to them, you know. Also, they probably realized you were. probably working out in jail. [laughter]. >> Yeah. Yeah, man. But I mean, well, it's. not. You shouldn't be punished for. something like that. You get stuck in a. crazy situation. >> Yeah, man. >> Especially if you're coming from. California where weed's legal. Everybody. gets confused. You know, you have that. weed in California. Everybody, it's. everywhere. It's totally legal. >> That's why it didn't even It didn't even. cross my mind. It didn't even cross my.

mind. >> I know that, man. We can get in trouble. for this. >> That's crazy. >> You know, >> I would have never known those laws cuz. I heard that it was decriminalized. I. thought, oh, they don't they got other. [ __ ] to worry about. They're, you know, they got cartel problems and fentinel. problems. They don't give a [ __ ] if. you're bringing in weed. >> Yeah. Well, now, now I have a part of of. the process of me getting out is like I. had to get like now I have dual. citizenship in Mexico. >> Now you do? >> Yeah. >> Because of getting out? >> No. No. Um, my lawyers um it was a part.

of me getting out. So like when you. pulled up the um the the. uh decriminalized. >> Mhm. the laws for. >> the laws for citizens. >> So that that was a process of. >> Oh, so you became a citizen so the law. was less for you. >> Yeah. >> That's hilarious. >> So it was a ton of stuff that we had to. do, man. >> Bro, that is a crazy loophole. >> Yeah. [laughter]. Yeah. So now people are asking. >> Everybody should become a citizen of.

Mexico. >> Yeah, man. I ain't never going back to. Mexico. I'm not going back for a while, bro. I cannot see myself. I don't even. want to go back. So, >> um especially since I released the. footage of me working out in prison and. stuff, like I don't ever want to go to. Mexico and and for any reason they're. like, "Get his ass, you know, and bring. him back over.". >> Yeah. Yeah. And they probably would, too. >> Yeah. >> At the very least try to get more money. out of you. >> Definitely. >> Especially after you headlining a UFC.

card. >> Yeah. And on top of that, like like um. like releasing that footage was like. definitely like a no no. But since. >> How did you Did they all have cell. phones inside? >> Yeah. So we had we had cell phones. >> Yeah. >> So were you texting your friends? You. could text your lawyer, all that [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> Did you worry that your text would be. intercepted? >> No. No, not at all. Cuz uh I would text. everybody or call everybody on on. WhatsApp and I guess. >> Yeah, it's encrypted. Yeah, it's.

encrypted. >> And so when you're doing all this and. filming all this, you just save the. footage and then when you got out. >> No, I would I would send it I would send. it to like my friends. So I I sent it to. to one of my buddies and I was like, "Yo, save all this stuff cuz when I get. out, this is going to this is going to. be it's going to be big, bro." You know? >> Well, I'm glad they didn't release it. before you got out. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You got to really trust your friends cuz. that could have been [ __ ]. >> Yeah, man. And the whole time like no. one knew what no one knew where I was.

at. No one knew where I was going on and. there was a couple rumors going around. that I was backpacking in Peru. [laughter]. Another one was was one of my buddies. like it's crazy how the internet. believes anything, bro. >> Mhm. >> Like there's people thought I was. building wells in Rwanda. Like one of my buddies said that he's. like, "Oh, he's building wells in Rwanda. doing God's work." And like people ran. with that like, hey, actually people. when I got released uh right away they.

were like, oh, Kevin Holland bailed him. out. [laughter]. Kevin Holland bailed him out to get a. rematch. And people believe that. >> That's hilarious. That's so funny. It must have been so weird. >> So when you're inside, did you did they. have the internet? Would they could they. watch fights? >> Yeah. Yeah, actually. Um, so they ended. up putting like these cell like. scramblers, like these towers that like. mess up the signal and [clears throat].

we ended up getting uh what's that that. uh Tesla thing? Starlink. >> Mhm. >> We ended up getting Starlink. >> We got Starlink in a Ted jail. >> Oh my god, that's insane. Yeah, we ended. up getting Starlink and had Wi-Fi for a. little while and then I remember. [snorts]. we ended up losing all that stuff. because um. like every every once in a while they'd. be like, "Hey, the guards will come. like, "Hey, uh they're going to come do. inspections and you know, so they would.

like hide everything." And I remember. this one time they hid everything and. they're like, "Oh, we're not going to. get back to you guys." So, we ended up. that like I'd say like by by the fifth. month, uh, that's when like they really. started cracking down and stopped. bringing us like the extra food and the. food that like the prison food in there, dude, is it's the worst. It's terrible. Terrible. um tortillas like with every. meal like five tortillas, rice or beans,

and like some kind of like soup, but the. soup is pretty much there's no meat in. it. It's it's um majority of is like. potatoes and carrots, you know, like. >> So your only protein you're getting from. beans? >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> Yeah. And it was just horrible. Dirty. Unsanitary. >> What's the first thing you ate when you. got out? First thing I ate when I got out was um. a double western bacon cheeseburger.

[laughter] from Carl's Jr. >> Wasn't the best ever. >> Yeah, man. And [snorts] I couldn't even. finish it because at the time like my. stomach was so I I got like I got full. as hell, man. Like like I it was crazy. And um. man, I was so skinny when I got out, bro. It was crazy. So, like this whole. time I just been like trying to to just. bulk back up, you know? >> So, what did you weigh? Did you weigh.

yourself when you got out? >> Uh, when I weighed I weighed myself when. I got out and I normally walk around. around 200 and I was like around 180, you know, but I looked horrible, bro. Like, I look like I just cut weight. I. look like I was like. >> I'm sure. >> Yeah, it was it was horrible. But it was. it was like I wasn't shredded or. nothing. I was just had no muscle. definition and it was just it was bad, bro. And I remember um when I first got. out, man, I was like thinking like, "All.

right, I tried like when I got out, I. hit the like I got out ready to just. like, "All right, I'm getting my life. back. I'm going I'm going to uh train my. ass off, bro." I was so out of shape. I. was so out of shape, bro. And and I was. like really discouraged at the time, you. know? I was like, "Dude, I don't know. I. think my [ __ ] career is over, dude. I. don't know if how I'm going how am I. going to come back from this, you know? I was so out of shape and. >> That's crazy cuz you were working out so. much in jail. >> Yeah, but it was just um because of of. the lack of of.

Yeah. nutrition. I was like so. malnourished. >> Your body was just destroyed. >> Yeah. It was It was horrible, bro. And. uh I almost thought like, dude, I can't. do this [ __ ] anymore, dude. Like I'm. like I'm not going to I think my career. might be over, you know? And um I was. just in my head about it for a little. bit and then and then you know like I. was like nah you know I'm I'm a [ __ ]. soldier dude. I I I could bounce back. from this and and you know I just I just.

really believed that through hard work. you know I I'll get back to to my old. self. And now I feel great. Dude, >> how long did it take before you started. feeling normal? >> About uh I'm barely starting to feel. like 100% now. now. Yeah. And when did. you get out? >> Um, it's been almost two months. >> Wow, that's not a lot of time. >> Yeah. >> And when is this uh the fight is August. 1st? >> Yeah, it's another. >> No, two months. Yeah, >> that's good.

>> Yeah. And I feel I feel good now. >> That's crazy though. It takes you two. months and then now you're back. You. look normal like physically. You look. healthy. So, it took you that time to. just put the weight back on and get your. muscle tone back and all that [ __ ]. That's a good thing though that you were. always in shape so you bounce back. quicker. You have muscle memory. >> Yeah. And actually I've honestly been. enjoying the the proc this whole process. of of like when when I first got out I. could only run like a mile and I was. dying, bro. And through through each run.

I could see my progress and I'm like, "Okay, I'm getting better. Okay, I'm. getting better." And and like I'm in. love with it right now. I'm in love with. look getting better and better and. better 1% every single day. You know, I. truly believe believed that through the. work and and to trust the work that I. have ahead of me. And I honestly think. that. by the time the fight gets here, I'm. going to be in perfect peak shape. >> That's awesome. >> Yeah. >> What a crazy comeback story.

>> Yeah, man. >> You know. >> Yeah. And and it it's it's really just. like a a a really deep personal one for. me because from what where when I when I. first got out to now it's just like it's. it's crazy. It's crazy how how I could. the body can bounce back and like just. get back into shape, you know? >> Well, it's crazy the mind too. I mean, you must be so thankful just every time. you're training. Yeah, you might be. tired, but man, you must be so thankful. that you're out and free and then you're.

working towards something big. >> You know, you got a big fight coming up. and what a blessing. >> Yeah, man. I'm just I'm just embracing. the whole process, you know, and I'm. just, you know, I'm I'm all for it. I'm. all in. Actually, going to to jail and going through all. that actually made made me appreciate. and value everything that I have going. on right now. So, so I'm just like so. grateful and so thankful that I even. have this opportunity and I just signed.

a new contract with the UFC. Six more. fights. >> Nice. >> And and now I'm I'm main event. It's. just crazy, dude. >> Dude, if you go on to win the title from. here, how crazy would that be? [laughter]. >> Do you know what I'm saying? >> Yeah, >> that would be crazy. >> And you know, you move you beat Medic, you're in the top 13, you're close to. the top 10. Few fights later, anything. can happen in this sport. >> Yep. And I would even tell dudes like. that like realistically bro like I can. like in four or five fights go like four. or five fights I could be fighting for.

the championship you know maybe less. >> in this sport all it takes is a few. spectacular results a few spectacular. results and people get behind you and. the crowd gets behind you and next thing. you know. >> yeah I mean if if I go out there and. smoke this guy then it's going to be. it's going to be so much even bigger. just because of the whole experience. that I went through and like man, he got. out of jail and just [ __ ] knocked. this dude out. And you know, why not? Like, why? Why not, bro? You know, why.

why can't I be that guy? Like, you hear. stories all the time of of these. incredible stories of people that become. champions from nothing and then been. through all kinds of stuff. Like, why. not me, bro? >> Listen, you never [ __ ] know. You. never [ __ ] know. That's the crazy. thing about this sport. >> Yeah. You know, anything could happen, dude. >> Yeah. I mean, you've got Makachev as the. title holder, which is, you know, one of. the baddest [ __ ] to ever do it. That's part of the problem. >> Yeah. >> You know, he's got the opposite life.

>> That's a guy that's been disciplined in. training his entire life, you know, never. >> never [ __ ] around. No drugs, no. drinking, no nothing. Just discipline. >> Yeah. >> It's tough cell. >> It's different different levels, man. >> Yeah. >> There's different levels to it. >> How old are you now? >> 39. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So that's like. >> I got like couple more years left, man. So that's why. >> it's crazy. While they stole eight. months of like very valuable time. >> Yeah. And that's what that's one thing.

that that's one the number one thing. that I was like, man, like I'm running. out of time, bro. You know, I don't got. >> Yeah. >> I don't got a lot of time left, you. know? So getting out. and like I said like I'm just I'm just. taking it a lot more serious, you know. >> I'm sure. Where are you training now? >> So right now I'm in I'm in Vegas. training over at uh the PI at Extreme. >> Oh, that's great. at Extreme Court Tour. and right now and and freestyle MMA.

While I'm in Vegas and uh while I'm in. California, I go to classic Classic. Fight Team uh training at over at Tanori. and 10 Planet, you know. So, I'm just But right now, uh. I'm I'm in Vegas right now. It's so much. so much easier. LA is crazy, dude. I. like I'm on the road. When I'm in LA, it's just I'm on the road all [ __ ]. day. LA traffic is just a nightmare. So. that's why like uh I'm in Vegas right. now. >> because everything's so close together.

and so convenient and and. >> that's also so high level. There's so. much highle training in Vegas and the PI. is an amazing resource for fighters, you. know, as far as nutrition, cutting. weight. I mean, they'll get your meals. for you. They get your supplements for. you. They make sure that everything is, you know, safe for sport approved, so. you don't have to worry about testing. positive for anything. Like the PI is. amazing. >> Yeah. such an incredible resource. >> Yeah. Right now it's a little bit crazy. because um they're they're they're.

letting like the slap fight guys go. there and the Zufa boxing guys I think. >> Yeah. >> So yeah, those guys are are using. >> the slap fight guys train. [laughter]. >> I don't know how they train like how do. you how do you train for that bro? You. know. >> they do neck workouts. I don't know. >> I guess that's it. >> Yeah, >> right. Swinging things with your arms. >> Yeah. You know, I guess like cable. machines like you know what I'm saying? Like get a cable machine on your wrist. and do this a bunch of times. >> Yeah. So they have um at the PI they.

have like this like this thing that. gauges your um. >> your power and your strike and they use. that. They use that all the time. >> The power slap guys do. Oh, that's so. silly. >> Yeah. And and then also the Zufa boxing. guys are there too. So. >> So it's a little it's a little bit. hectic right now. There's like a a lot. going on. >> Yeah, I could imagine. >> Yeah. Power slap guys. That's a. different thing. >> I've never been to one of those. I hear. I haven't either. >> I hear you have to go to one to like. enjoy it. [laughter].

>> You have to be on acid. >> Yeah. >> Just to me it's like I don't know, man. I feel I feel like letting someone just. swing on you. And the thing is like if. you get the first swing, you have a. giant advantage. >> Yeah. >> The first swing is a crazy advantage. >> That's dangerous, bro. That's. >> just getting, you know, just getting. whacked. And some of these guys are. >> they get knocked out. Yeah. >> Oh, 100%. Man, it's not less powerful. than a punch. You know, this is the idea.

that you're slapping like this. That's. not what they're hitting with the palm. of the hand. >> Yeah. >> Right on your [ __ ] jaw. It's super. powerful. >> You can only take so many of those in. your whole life, you know, and you're. lining up for those. >> Yeah. And I mean, you can imagine like. their nerve damage on your face, too. Well, I mean, look, I'm for whatever you. want to do. You want to jump BMX bikes, you want to ride bulls, you want to. power slap, have at it. This is America. Have a good time. >> Yeah. >> But it seems like at an MMA gym, it. should be MMA fighters. I don't I mean,

the boxing is probably a good crossover. Like, you could probably get some good. work with some of those guys. >> Yeah. >> You know, and then also seeing highlevel. boxers train is good. It's great for. your technique. It's great for just. >> raising the level up in the gym. Yeah. >> Yeah. No, it's it's it's it's really. dope. I love I love the PI, man. Uh and. Vegas in general, like there's so many. killers out there, you know? >> It's one of the best places in the world. for MMA training. I mean, you got. Extreme Couture. Think of how many. killers are training out of there,

>> you know? You got uh there there's so. many. You got Syndicate. There's so many. places, man. Yeah, it's incredible. So. much jiu-jitsu. Robert Ddale's there. There's so many guys that are there. 10th Planet there. >> There's so much jiu-jitsu there. There's. so much MMA there. I mean, if you're a. fighter, it's like one of the best. places to live. >> Yeah. I remember when I first when I. first went out there, I was in about. 2020. Uh I went out I was I was on. Cowboys camp.

>> and uh he went out there and and that's. when I saw firsthand all the all the the. amenities. >> from the PI and like all the the whole. Vegas experience. And so I decided to. move out there. So I lived out there for. like 2 years and and I've just been. going back and forth ever since. >> It's worth living there just for the PI. >> Yeah. >> You know, and then you there's so much. Muay Thai there. There's so much. everything. There's so much great. training there. >> Yeah. Yeah. There's there's a ton of. there's a ton of gyms like you said,

man. >> Yeah. It might not there might not be. another city in the country that's like. Vegas in that regard. >> Yeah. >> Think about boxing. You got Floyd. Mayweather's gyms there, which is crazy, right? There's a bunch of other gyms. there. You got high level boxers there. You got high level Muay Thai guys there. You know, One Kick Nick has his place. there. There's so much highlevel. training in Vegas. This episode is. sponsored by BetterHelp. Summer is. great, isn't it? It's the perfect season. for adventures, but it can also be. pretty exhausting juggling chaotic.

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Nick, right? Yeah. >> Yeah. >> [ __ ] crazy town. >> Yeah, man. training and again like I. can't say enough like every I've been to. the PI a bunch of times but when I first. went there before they were really open. when they were really getting rolling I. was like this is incredible like if. you're a fighter you have a place that. has all the recovery stuff all the like. the high-end top-notch recovery stuff. cold plunge saunas all the all the. everything like all physical therapy. supplements they when that when I found.

out they make food for you I was like. this is crazy. Yeah, I love that part. I. love I love I'm always I'm always there, you know. You could go there, order. whatever you want, you know, and like, sure, steak and steak and rice, you. know. >> Yeah. Well, they just want you to be. healthy, which is makes sense. Just it's. so smart that they did that. When they. did that, I was like, what are they. doing dumping all this money in that? Who's going to go there? And then when I. went there, I was like, oh, I get it. They went all out. They went all out. And it's just if you want your fighters.

to be at the very best to compete in the. UFC, what better way than provide the. best worldass facility on earth. Yeah. And then to put it right there in Vegas. And now they have a bunch of them, right? They have one in Mexico. They. have one in I think they have one in. Singapore. >> Yeah. They have a bunch of them. It's. awesome. So smart. Such a smart move to. do. >> You know what would have been crazy if. you were on the White House card. If you. got really [laughter]. >> Dude, that's going to be major, dude. That's crazy. >> That's going to be major. I wish it was. inside, but it is going to be crazy.

It's so funny watching people lose their. mind over it, >> you know, in in all sorts of different. ways. Lose their mind over it because. they hate the political situation in. this country. Lose their mind over it. because they feel like it's a waste of. money. Why they spending so much money? This country's in in debt. We got. problems. Why are we having a fight? And. then other people are like, "Fuck yeah.". >> [laughter]. >> like a, you know, I mean, there's no. more American thing than having a UFC. fight on the White House lawn. It's so. America. It's so It's so Trump. It's so.

crazy. [laughter]. You know what I mean? A UFC fight on the. White House lawn is bananas. >> Yeah, man. Even um the fight card is. amazing as well. >> Oh, fight card's incredible. The only. thing that bothers me is that it's. outside. >> and that these guys are they're fighting. for world titles. I mean, Ilia Tapora. might be is not just one of the best. right now. He might be one of the best. that ever did it. It's very possible. that he goes down in history as the. all-time. I mean, he's he's so good. And.

for him to have to defend his title, the. world title outside with bugs and. humidity and heat. >> Yeah. You got to take into account the. weather, you know, it's a whole. different environment. >> It could rain. It could thunderstorm. Who [ __ ] knows? It's DC. It's the. East Coast in the middle of the summer. I mean, it's it's it's crazy to have a. fight outside in June in DC. >> Yeah, I've I've fought outside before. It's it's definitely a different. different vibe, different energy. >> Where'd you fight outside? >> Um I fought outside for Gata Americas.

Uh it was uh somewhere in Arizona and it. was a night time. >> That's Camel McLaren's organization, right? Yeah. Love that dude. I've also. fought in the summer in the daytime and. at a fair. >> Oh my god. >> Yeah, it was one of like in California. >> In California. >> What was the temperature? >> It was hot as hell, dude. The mat was. hot as hell. It was like at a fair in in. the middle of the summer or something. >> Oh, that sucks. The mat's hot. I didn't.

even think of that. >> Yeah, dude. It was. >> Was it canvas or was it like matte? >> I think it was matte. >> Oh, Jesus. >> Yeah, it was it wasn't. >> So, not just that, but it gets slippery. as [ __ ] too, then. Yeah, dude. It was. hot as hell, bro. >> Did you ever see King of the Cage wet. and wild? >> You ever see that? >> No. >> King of the Cage put on a fight in the. middle of a rainstorm and just let. people fight. Just like I I think they. just said, "Look, you know, if you want. to fight, you get paid. This is it. It's. going to rain out and we're going to.

have to fight." Because it was outside. Yeah. >> So, this is back when California did not. have MMA. It was illegal, but it was. legal on Indian reservations. So we. would go to these Indian reservations. for King of the Cage. >> So So back when Eddie, I think Eddie was. the commentator at that event. I'm not. sure, but he was one of the main. commentators at King of the Cage. And my. friend Bud, who's my neighbor back in. California, I actually sold him my old. house. Real good friend of mine. He was. one of the owners of King of the Cage. And they were just putting on these.

events in [ __ ] these Indian. reservations when it was totally illegal. in California. So, we would just drive. to the Indian reservations and watch. And one of them, it poured. I mean, it. was outside. The whole thing was. outside. They just set up a cage outside. and it's [ __ ] pouring, dude. And. these guys are slipping all over the. place and it's crazy. [snorts] They're. fighting with wrestling shoes on and it. was just some of them did at least. And. it's [ __ ] ridiculous. Like, there's. no way you should fight like this. >> Yeah. My my actually actually my pro. debut was for King of the Cage outside.

on Indian Reservation [laughter]. at. >> What year was this? Uh I want to. [snorts] say 20. 2017 maybe. >> so they were still doing them outside. even then. >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> At uh Saboba Casino. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's where we went. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> See if you can find the King of the Cage. footage for Wet and Wild. It was. >> one of the craziest events I've ever. seen in my life. I just imagine you're. basically fighting on ice. You're. slipping all over the place. Everybody's. sliding. This is it. Look, they're.

trying to mop down the cage in between. the fights. I mean, it's ridiculous. Like, what are you going to do? You're. not going to dry it out. I don't know. why they were trying to do this, but. they were trying to at least give them. some sort of like not sping wet. environment. >> Dude, that must have been so hard to. fight on. >> Look at they're slipping. >> Oh, they're slipping all over the place. At least they had wrestling shoes on cuz. I I don't remember what year this was. >> The ref with the ponchos. Kind of funny. >> I know. It's [laughter] crazy. All the. officials have ponchos on. It's [ __ ].

pouring right now. I don't remember what. year it was. It's I think it said it. right there. 2001 I think. >> Oh, okay. That makes sense. So that I. think that's illegal days. I'm not 99%. sure that's the illegal days. Of course. it is cuz they're wearing shoes. But it. was the whole event was just insane. And. imagine like trying to get a submission. on someone who's literally soaking wet. >> Yeah, dude. >> I mean, it's impossible. It's It's so. crazy. But I mean, these dudes. >> been so remember this forever. This.

event like everybody was there. Look, you see the water? Oh, it's pouring. >> I mean, why are they But why are they. bothering like sweeping the water off? You're not going to dry it out. And look. at his feet, man. His feet are sliding. all over the place with wrestling shoes. on. [laughter] It's crazy. In a. situation like that, you're almost like. better off like immediately going to the. ground. But even then, like how are you going to. even get a choke? People are sl Everyone. would slide out of everything. It's like.

fighting someone who's oiled up. Look at. he's drying them off. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. But this. >> the White House one. I just I just hope. it doesn't rain. I hope they figure out. a way to kill the bugs, too. I've been. investigating online. Uh there's a bunch. of different machines that they sell for. like outdoor events and these they kill. every bug within like a mile radius. They set these things up and all the. bugs just go to it and get zapped. And. at the end of it, they dump it out. There's like a [ __ ] like a big bag of.

bugs. So, if they set a bunch of those. up around the perimeter, maybe they can. at least minimize the amount of bugs. that are out there because you have uh. in the DC area, you have a lot of gnats. >> Imagine fighting and you got a gnat in. your eye. You know, you're in the middle. of moving around, something goes in your. mouth, >> you know. >> Yeah. Is there a lot of them out there? >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's moist. >> That's the thing about DC. It's humid. That's a humid environment, especially. in the summer. And Jamie and I checked,

was it 100 degrees there? >> Yeah, it's current. I mean, we're. getting closer to the date, so the. forecast is getting better. It's. currently set to be a high of 85, low of. 69. >> 69 is nice. >> No rain and well, isolated thunderstorms. the two days before, >> but that doesn't I mean, I know that's. what that. >> doesn't mean anything by the time it. gets to June. >> Yeah. >> And what is it? June 11th. What is it? It's on. So it's on the 14th. 12th and. 13th [snorts] both have isolated. thunderstorms. >> 12th and 13th and it's on the 14th. Oh.

[ __ ]. >> And the one on Friday it says. considerable cloudiness and fog after. midnight. I think the fights would be. over by then probably, but who knows? >> Well, the fights are Sunday, >> right? No, I'm just saying like that. means at night it's getting. >> Yeah. Well, the thing is if it's the. lows 69 that's nice. So, if it cools off. by the time the main event starts or the. the last few fights, but the first few. guys that get after it, they're going to. probably be fighting in the daytime. >> Yeah. You know, you never know. They.

might just spray some chemtrails and. change the [laughter] weather, >> you know. >> Yeah, they might. >> You never know. >> Oh, if anybody's going to do it, it's. Trump. Do you see the thing that he. posted? He's got like this whole drone. army on the roof of the ballroom now. Oh, no. I didn't. >> So, you know, they built What's up, J? >> It will. It's not done yet. >> Oh, it's not? >> No. Oh, well, he show posted pictures of. the AI. >> Yeah. Well, no. I mean, it's just a. rendering, I would say. >> Oh, that's all it is? >> Oh. How far along is the ballroom?

>> I think they're. pretty far. I'm going to show you the. picture that they posted, but it's not. >> It's like a rendering of what it will. >> Oh, that's fake. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Why would you tell people what. you're going to do? Well, [laughter]. they're going to be able to see that. They can't hide it. >> That's not [snorts] what I saw. I saw. one that looked like it was during the. daytime. >> Yeah, drones. >> But obviously, that's Yeah, that's what. I saw. That's the one I saw. So, that's. what it's going to look like. >> Yeah, drones are crazy, man. >> Bro, drones with missiles and guns.

>> flying around on the top, all controlled. by AI. >> That's crazy, man. >> What could go wrong? >> War is a whole another whole another. thing these days. >> Yeah. Yeah, it's spooky. You ever seen. some of that footage from Ukraine? >> Yeah. >> Drones just flying around, bombing. dudes. >> Just bombing dudes just dropping down on. guys and exploding. And there's [ __ ]. hundreds of those videos now.

You get a one of those um Instagram. algorithms where you watch a couple of. them and then next thing you know, they're getting recommended to over and. over and over. >> Yeah, dude. That's crazy. Um, >> two weeks ago to the barroom. So, it's. still crazy. >> You know, one day I'm talking talking. about something with my buddy. Next. thing you know, it's all over my phone, my feed. >> I know. >> Yeah. It's crazy. >> It's weird. It's [laughter] It's We're. just accepting the fact that our phone's. listening to us all the time. >> Yeah. >> You know what I got trapped in recently? A algorithm of schizophrenic people.

>> What does What does that mean, >> dude? It's all crazy people that like. one guy is like, "Hi, I'm Joseph Wilson. I am the legitimate president of the. United States due to constitutional re. you like crazy stuff like crazy people. This one lady, this one lady is crazy. She's like uh I forget what famous actor. she was saying. They're trying to kidnap. me and put [ __ ] in my vagina and like. [laughter]. she's just completely insane. And every. day it's like some new accusation. Someone's after her. Someone's tapping.

their phone. Someone's communicating. with her through her ceiling fan. like. just but I don't know how Instagram. knows that these people are. schizophrenic and keeps sending me. schizophrenic people over and over and. over again. >> because I know right. >> well you're if you're watching them. you're it thinks you want to keep. watching. >> I understand but how does it know who's. schizophrenic. >> it must there's got to be there's and. there's internal tags on every post. >> right but isn't that nuts. >> I don't know how it's what yeah how. skitso got in there but it is.

>> or whatever the word is it's using. >> the yeah I don't know what the word is. but it knows these people are [ __ ]. [ __ ] up. And so it's sending me all. these crazy people like in completely. insane people. One one lady who thinks. everybody's a man. She thinks Rosa. Park's secretly a man. Everyone's. secretly a man. She's like pointing out. like collar bones. Look at them. Look at. this is a man. Kim Kardashian's a man. Everybody's a man. It's [ __ ] nuts, man. And it's just schizophrenic people. And I'm like, "Okay, so Instagram must. know these people are schizophrenic cuz.

they're all like, I'm telling you, it's. like three out of 10 videos Instagram. recommends me are inst are people that. are completely crazy, >> so it must know these people are crazy. and it's just sending them my way.". [snorts and laughter]. >> Yeah, dude. Same. Same for me, dude. I. was I was talking to my buddies uh I. don't know, something about like. sardines or something. Next thing you. know, I'm like looking at my phone. I'm. like, "Dude, what the hell is all this. [ __ ] about sardines?". >> I know. back to back. It's crazy, bro. >> It's creepy how the ads target you, which means it's. >> brainwashing me into brainwash me into.

buying sardine. >> Well, it's like, how much is it. listening? Did you see that post? I'll. send it to you, Jamie, that Kim.com. posted about Palunteer. Yeah. >> Did you see that? >> It's from February where they got hacked. apparently. Maybe. >> Is that what it is? >> Yeah, that's what it said. I We probably. saw the same one. >> Yeah, I'm sure. Um, it's very recently. that uh I saw it. I didn't check the. date on it, though. I could send it to. you. Yeah, I got it. Um. I think it's um Yeah,

>> it's from February 16th. >> Yes, that's it. That's the one. >> It's not showing up right here, though. >> Let me send it to you. >> Well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The thing I just. had was like a Russian website and I'm. like [laughter]. >> click this. No problems. Definitely. There's another one like. Britney Grryer. That poor lady. >> Oh, yeah. >> She did nine months. They they wanted to. put her away forever. >> Yeah. >> They were they were trying to put away. exchange like some Russian arms dealer. or something like that.

>> The merchant of death guys responsible. for thousands of people being dead. So. this is from kim.com. Palunteer was. allegedly attack uh hacked rather an AI. agent was used to gain super user. access. And here's what the hackers. allegedly found. Peter Teal and Alice. Karp commit mass surveillance of world. leaders and titans of industry on a mass. scale. Massive [clears throat] scale. They have thousands of hours of. transcribed and searchable conversations. of Donald Trump, JD Vance, and Elon. Musk. They have backdoor the devices,

cars, and jets of world leaders and. accumulated the biggest archive of. blackmail material. Palanteer is. creating nuclear and bioweapon. capabilities for Ukraine and is working. closely with the CIA to defeat Russia. They believe they're one year away. They. plan to achieve this by keeping Russia. busy with meaningless peace. negotiations. Palanteer is responsible. of the majority of Palestinian deaths in. Gaza. They've developed the AI targeting. for Israel. Palanteer is an arm of the. CIA and all data from international.

clients is copied into a C. So see the. problem is this is like alleged. Is. there a community notes on this at all? >> No. >> Really? >> Just Kurt Mezer. [snorts and laughter]. >> He's the number one post. >> When can we see these hacked materials. though? What are the hackers doing with. it? If they aren't exposing the whole. thing, then [ __ ] them. >> Yeah, they he. >> How does no community knows about? >> He posts a lot of things that sometimes. are true and sometimes are not true. Yeah. >> Predictions. >> Do you know his background? Do you know.

the story behind that guy? >> Me or. >> Yeah. >> General. Yeah. >> So his back I first found out about him. a long time ago. He's a very wealthy. guy. He lives in New Zealand and he ran. a site. Was [snorts] it uh. >> like super upload or. >> Yeah, like one of those uploads, mega. upload. >> Yeah, I think that's what it. >> was that it. targeted him because they said that. people were uploading things that were. copyrighted material and.

>> I think they were trying to they were. trying to they were trying to get him. out of the country. >> Extradited on I think they still wanted. to come back. Uh yeah, fraud charges. related to it's on the screen to mega. upload. Um, he denies wrongdoing. Accused US authorities of pursuing a. vendetta against him on behalf of. politically influential Hollywood. studios. 2018 New Zealand Court of. Appeal upheld the lower court's. ruling.com appealed to the Supreme Court. of New Zealand, which ruled in 2020 that.

do could be extradited to the United. States, but that he could challenge the. decision through judicial review. His. extradition order was eventually signed. on August of 2024. He's remained free in. New Zealand while continuing to pursue. judicial review of his extradition. order. He launched another he launched another. cloud storage service called Mega. Although he severed all in 2013 severed. all ties with the service in 2015. He. also started and funded the internet.

party. The party contested in the 2014. New Zealand general election under an. electoral alliance with the MANA. movement and contested the 2017 general. election independently but failed to win. any seats at either election. He um was. a famous guy in the early days of the. internet. Did Did you ever see those. videos that he made like these cartoons? >> Yeah, I'm trying to remember some things. that I remember. I I don't Yeah. >> Yeah. There was like cartoons that he.

did where he was like killing dictators. in the cartoons. >> What did he call he. >> internet party moment of truth. extradition? [snorts]. >> See if you can find kim.com early. animated videos. >> Big on the Seth Rich conspiracy here. >> You should be. >> um. >> the Seth Rich one is wild. The Seth Rich one is one of the ones. where I just I don't understand why. anybody isn't think that that's crazy. This guy gets assassinated after he.

supposedly gave Wikileaks all sorts of. inside information on the Democratic. party about how they kept people out of. the election, how they were running. things. And then he winds up getting. whacked and they're like, "No, it was a. robbery attempt at 3:00 in the morning. They left his watch. They left his. wallet. They left everything. His phone. >> They just killed him. >> See if you can find his videos. He has. some crazy videos. >> I want to say these are from like the.

90s, like late 90s or early 2000s. He was uh that he I don't remember. I. don't even know what he was doing, but. he was very wealthy. He had this crazy. house and his hot wife, and he would. show videos of it and [ __ ] And I think. this guy's just been persecuted because. of that sight that he had and he's. [ __ ] now. They just keep going after. him. I don't know if he's right about. this Palunteer stuff, so I probably. shouldn't have been saying it, but but. you do know that like in worst case.

scenario, a gigantic corporation could. have the power to surveil everyone all. the time. Everyone's online. >> Yeah. >> I mean, they can they can see you now. with Wi-Fi. They know where you are in a. building at any given time with the. Wi-Fi in the building. >> Oh, that's crazy. >> Crazy. They use Wi-Fi and they can get a. literal image of you walking around your. house. They know where you are in any. given time. >> because of the Wi-Fi. So, if they tap. into your Wi-Fi, they know where you. are. There boom,

>> there's targeted strike in the upper. right bedroom. after you. >> It's crazy. It's really nuts, man. Because this is this wasn't Here it is. >> So, this is from like this is some old. internet stuff. This is a flash video. >> Yeah. >> '90s flash video. >> Yeah, this is it. Give me some volume. >> I'm surprised that even has sound. It's going to be a very crude sound. >> Yeah, this is what he did. I remember. this. So, this was the '9s.

So, this is the same guy. [screaming]. It's a very interesting guy. Wow. >> He's getting in a boat. >> Yeah. It's called Kim Kimble Special. Agent. [laughter]. >> I mean, he's probably This is Yeah, it. was made in the 90s. This is 30 years. ago. He's, you know, screwing around. with. >> internet graphics and. [laughter]. catches a helicopter. >> He lands on the ground.

>> He's standing on top of Microsoft. What. is he doing? Oh, there's Bill Gates. >> Boy, people hated Bill Gates even back. then. >> Please don't shoot a [laughter]. >> That's crazy. It's assassinating Bill Gates.

[laughter]. >> What the [ __ ] It's so weird. Oh, he didn't kill him. Just wrote Linux. around him. >> So, he got in trouble for these? >> Nah. No, >> no, not really. I mean, I think people. just thought those were silly. Uh, he. got in trouble for that mega upload. site. So, this the way it used to work. is you remember do you remember Napster? >> Yeah. >> Right. So, Napster worked where you. could take songs, you could upload them, and anybody could download these songs. The way Mega Upload worked and a lot of.

these upload sites is you could take a. film and you could turn it into a. digital file and say you take like. Avatar, turn it into a digital file and. upload it and people could then download. it and watch it on their home. entertainment system through the. internet. Just download the file, plug. an HDMI cord from a computer into the TV. and boom, you're watching movies. >> Yeah. >> And you don't have to pay anything. And. the thing was it's like all this stuff. was copyrighted material. And I think. his argument was like, "Yeah, but I'm.

not uploading it. I'm just I'm hosting. this service and they're like, well, this service is used to do illegal. things, so you're in trouble." So, it's. like I don't know what the argument is. there. I don't know who's right. Do you. understand it, Jamie? >> Yeah, you explained it. But, I mean, it's a [clears throat] Most people would. go like copyright law, American. copyright law only matters in America. I. don't know if that's the argument he was. making, but [snorts]. >> that's true, too, right? Because he's in. New Zealand. >> and this host this site was hosted in. Hong Kong.

>> Yeah. It says on January 20th, 2012, they seized more than $300 million of. his or Hong Kong money $40 million in. American money. >> Damn, son. >> Um, he denied any wrongdoing. >> I wonder how he's earning money now. I. wonder if they took all his money or. >> I mean, he did they did that. I just. looked it up. Mega is like a cloud. service website now. I don't know if he. owns it or runs it. Um he's tried to do. cryptocurrency stuff. I'm sure he was. big into Bitcoin when it started. He's.

probably doing okay. >> Yeah. I don't know what the story is, but I'm kind of rooting for him. >> He's a fun character online. >> Oh, he's very fun online. I don't know. if he's right about the Palunteer stuff, but forget about Palunteer. We know that. what's happening now in terms of you. talking into your phone about sardines. and then your phone showing you ads like. there's they're definitely listening to. something. >> Grock said it's unverified just. >> as of February. Oh, so this was Grock. commented on it. Kim.com's claims about.

a Palunteer hack and uh related. allegations remain unverified. Major. outlets like Reuters, BBC, and New York. Times show no coverage. Palunteer's site. has no statements. Some sources echo the. post, but no independent evidence. confirms it. Right. But you got to think. if you know a dude who's deeply. connected into the hacker world, it's. that guy, >> right? Like. >> Yeah. >> I think he's the most public one. >> Yeah. He'd be the guy that would know.

some [ __ ]. >> I wouldn't be surprised. >> if it's not Palanteer. And I'm not. accusing Palanteer of anything, but. there's got to be at least one point in. time there's going to be a corporation. that has the power to do those things. And that's what's going on with all this. surveillance [ __ ] that people are. missing. >> I'm sure I'm sure there already is. Um, you know, they're already doing that, you know. >> Yeah. I mean, >> 100%. >> If I was an evil person running some. corporation, I would do it.

>> some especially if I thought I was. right. I'm. >> doing the right thing. Yeah, >> I can imagine like China probably has. >> of course, >> you know, >> 100%. >> Also, I forgot what I was reading that. um someone got arrested. So, I think. like uh some government official or. something got arrested and admitted to. being a a spy. >> Oh, yeah. >> China. >> Well, yeah. Well, there was a mayor in. California in Arcadia, California. There. was a spy for China. She was the [ __ ]. mayor. The mayor of a city was working.

for China. >> Yeah. hadn't admitted it. >> Yeah, >> it's crazy. >> Oh, China's playing a long game. They. they infiltrate universities. They give. money to universities. They they fund. programs. They give money to research. labs. They uh sell cell phone towers at. a a discounted rate to the military. And. these dumb [ __ ] put them around. where their military bases are. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I've had guys that are, you know, CIA guys on the podcast tell me about.

that. how dangerous it is that they've. they bought farmland all around these. military bases. China has. >> Yeah. >> What's up? Did you say something? I. thought you said something. Yeah, that's. crazy. It's crazy that they are even. allowed to do that. Like you imagine you. you're in conflict with another country. and they buy land right next to your. house. You're like, "Hey.". >> Yeah. >> What are you doing? [laughter]. Forget about your house. A [ __ ]. military base. Anybody buying any land. around a military base should be.

thoroughly vetted. It should be there. should be different laws. If you want to. buy land around a military base, it. should be like no, >> you know, no background check for sure. >> Not just background check. Like you. should be American citizen. A and you. should have like a legitimate verifiable. reason for owning this land like you're. a farmer or you gonna put [ __ ]. windmills up there. Whatever you're. gonna do, it should make sense. It. shouldn't be like all you have to do is. have the money and you could buy land. right next to a military base. >> Yeah. >> Where they're doing who knows what.

>> Yeah. And you know, China has like some. of the top top uh you know um some of. the the the like you never know what. they're Yeah. The technology. >> Oh, their technology is off the charts. Their their drone technology is beyond. ours. >> And they they have like crazy drone. displays where they have enormous. dragons. Oh yeah. Fly them over the sky. like thousands and thousands of drones. and they make a dancing dragon in the. sky. Like whoa. >> So they're all coordinated but some sort. of a computer program and they all work.

autonomously. It's nuts, man. Like their. techn their cars are insane. China's. cars, they have electronic or electric. cars that are beyond anything we have. here in America and they can't sell them. here. >> which I think is kind of crazy. I think. that's kind of [ __ ] It's kind of I. mean I guess we're in competition with. China, but like it should be survival of. the fittest when it comes to cars. Like. if if you're making the best [ __ ]. cars and you happen to be in China, they.

should be over here, >> right? >> You know? >> Yeah. >> I mean, it would suck if I was Ford and. these Chinese cars were way better than. anything that we're making here. But. everybody that I've talked to and I've. talked to some guys that work for major. automobile organizations and they went. over to China and they're like, "Oh my. god, we're fucked." Like these cars are. insane. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just Tesla alone, I. know, I know it's not China, but I mean, >> oh, those cars are insane. >> Yeah, they're pretty dope. >> But they make them here and they make.

them in China, too. They made a lot. They they were making a lot of them in. China during the pandemic because the. pandemic didn't really close things down. in China the way it closed things down. here. But they're they have electric cars now. that have like these insane suspensions. They go 0 to 60 in one and a half. seconds. >> They're nuts. Yeah. They there's this. dude that I follow online. God, what's. his name? Forest Auto Reviews. I'm. trying to remember, but he does these. quick reviews and somehow or another he.

always gets these Chinese cars. I'll. find his name. But he get you know you. know he is. >> No, but I was I mean I don't think this. is his channel but I'm looking at the. Xiai SU7. I can find his video if you want me to. >> Yeah, these cars are nuts, man. >> Looks like a Tesla, but. >> Oh, that's the dude. >> It is? >> Yeah. What is his channel? >> This isn't his channel, I don't think, cuz it's. >> somebody else uploaded it. >> Maybe. I don't know. >> Maybe. Maybe somebody else uploaded it. I think it's the same guy. Let me find. it. I think I think it's Forest Auto.

Review. No, that's not him. He's not. that guy. Hold on. This guy. >> Yes, Forest Jones. That's it. So, he. keeps finding he keeps reviewing these. uh just scroll down for his videos. Go. to his video section. Um, if you search, you can just narrow it down more, but it. didn't norally work.

>> One year ago, Tesla minivan or China. minivans. >> They have some crazy [ __ ] Find find a. good one. >> I don't know if it's electric. It's just. a luxur car, though. >> Yeah, this is it. This is electric. Look, look at these things. They're. nuts. >> And a Huawei sound system with this. gorgeous speaker. I also get two. wireless charging pads with a fan to. keep them cool. I have this gorgeous. drive mode selector. I have cup holders. right in here. And I have a dash cam. that can do [music] this. >> Oh, that's crazy. >> You also get selfies. >> for the Blickie.

>> A big one. I have built-in fragrances. that slot in right here. If I push this. button, I have more storage space. And I. can do this. >> If I push the button on the side of my. seat, that'll fold down my armrest. My. seats are heated, ventilated, and. massaging. I have an area right down. here for my phone. Have built-in. sunscreen shades. If I push this button, my cup holder comes out. And I can do. this. This is $37,000. >> And these cars are not available in the. US. >> I want to watch a movie. >> That one's 37. >> Is that one? >> I don't know. >> No, maybe I'm looking at the wrong.

video. >> That sounds like it would cost more than. 30. It says luxury cars. >> What car is that? Does it say? >> Doesn't say. >> Doesn't say in the description. No. description has been added to this. video. >> See, go over to the beginning. See what. it says. >> Inside. I get a moon roof, pillows, my. headrest, these heated ventilated. massage seats. I get a passenger screen. Yeah. So, they're doing wild [ __ ] over. in China with technology and they have. full surveillance on their population. You can't say [ __ ] over there. >> Yeah. They have like facial recognition,

everything. That's crazy. >> Yeah. You You can't step out of line at. all. They'll they'll make you uh turn. you into a handbag. [laughter]. You don't [ __ ] around over there. >> Yeah. >> You know, they have um Do you know that. bodies uh exhibit? Do you know what that. is? Like the dead bodies exhibit? >> Uh I think there's one in Vegas. >> Exactly. They get their bodies most of. them from China and they're yeah they're. they're called like Chinese. I think it's undeclared bodies. So like.

if you die within a certain amount of. time if someone doesn't claim your body. unclaimed bodies. If someone doesn't. claim your body within like 30 days they. just can turn you into a statue. >> Wow. >> But here's the problem with that. in. order to do this process where they turn. you into a statue. It has to take place. within 48 hours of your death. >> So there's no way they're waiting a. month. >> Yeah. >> So they have to start this process like. pretty soon after you die. And they they.

have this process called plastination. and they take the bodies and they. basically strip all the fat from the. body and they turn it into this. plasticized. statue [snorts]. of all your muscles and tendons and. ligaments. And so you're out there like. playing basketball and like you could. see like the rib cage and all the. ligaments. That was a dude that was. probably tweeting the wrong thing or he. worked for a company and he [ __ ] up or. he was banging someone's wife or he was. doing something and they turned this.

dude into a statue and now he's at the. Luxor in Vegas playing golf. [laughter]. >> Like for real, we looked into it and. it's there's not not just me saying. this. There's a bunch of stories online. about these different bodies and how. they've found ones with bullet holes in. them. They found one of them is crazy. So, this lady was uh having an affair. with a mayor in this town in China and. she was uh an online uh or television. broadcaster. She was like a news lady or.

something like that. And she was having. an affair with the mayor. The wife finds. out about it. The lady goes missing. She. gets scrubbed from the internet. Turns. out the lady was pregnant. She was eight. months pregnant. She goes missing. Then. all of a sudden this pregnant lady. appears at the bodies exhibit with the. baby inside of her. Same exact size, same features, everything as this lady. The wife of the mayor who she was having. an affair with. The wife was the manager.

of the plastination factory where they. turn everybody into statues. >> Damn. >> Damn. And and these bodies, there's no. skin on them. >> No skin. It gets even crazier. Years. later, she gets arrested for killing. another person. She gets arrested for. poisoning some English b businessman. And then it goes to trial. Well, the. person who stood trial for her, the. person who stood was not her. There's. pictures of the lady on the stand. It's. a different lady. So, she must have paid.

someone off to get convicted and go to. jail. like paid their family off or. something like that and she got free. >> So, >> this is all alleged, by the way. >> Yeah. >> All alleged. But the you could see the. the video or the um the body is still. exhibited, the body of the pregnant. lady. So, there's a pregnant lady and. you see a cross-section of her stomach. where she's like holding on to her. stomach and you see the fetus inside of. her stomach. So, we're supposed to.

believe that this. undiscovered body, this unclaimed body. of a pregnant lady with an eight-month. old fetus inside of her body that they. find it and then somehow or another they. know it's cool, so you can just turn it. into a statue, but you have to do that. within 48 hours of someone's death. But. no one claimed it, which takes a month. None of it makes any sense. >> Yeah. >> The whole thing is nuts. Some of them. are people that like, I'm going to die. I want to donate [snorts] my body to. this exhibit. Okay, if you're crazy and. that's what you want to do, that's cool.

But that's not all those people. Some of. those people are It's very sketchy. circumstances. See if you can find that. image of the. >> I wonder how often or how many how many. times that happened like cuz cuz. wouldn't like the the pregnant uh body. like they never investigated it. >> The family wanted to the family wanted. to investigate. Exactly. They were trying to do that but. they wouldn't let him do it. These. people have like obviously have immense. power. She got someone allegedly got. someone to stand in line. >> And this is like in China. >> Look at this. This is in China. >> So look at this. This is the baby,

the pregnant woman and the fetus inside. of her. And so the family looked at the face and. they're like, "Jesus Christ. Oh, someone. stole the fetus." Oh. >> Also, I was digging there's another. scandal that happened in 2024 with a. bunch of corpses in China, too. Well, there's a video or this where this uh. investigative reporter this. investigative reporter visited one of. these plastination factories and there. was bodies that were laying down.

There's a video of it. You can watch the. video. These bodies are laying down. They have sheets over their head and. they have their arms tied behind their. back and the sheets are bloody. So, it. looks like they all got whacked and. they're all at this plant getting ready. to be turned into a [ __ ] statue. It's. creepy as [ __ ] man. This body was they. just stole the fetus. >> Two women in LA stole it. >> Two Two women. >> This is 20 years ago. >> They probably stuffed it inside of their. belly. >> Look here. I'm pregnant. >> Um [laughter] yeah, there's another.

>> It's probably on my Instagram algorithm. right now. >> There's another scandal they had where. over 4,000 bodies were in [snorts] a. scheme, a corpse scheme, they said. >> Oh my god. >> Where they were being sold. They pe. families thought their body their family. member was being cremated was not. They. were being sold into I was trying to. find out what they were using. >> That's a lot of bodies. >> Jesus using them for bone grafting. >> So aloenic. bone graft products. >> Oh, that's another thing one of these. schizophrenic ladies was telling me and.

that is true that uh a lot of these. women are getting fat that's taken from. cadaavvers. So they take fat [snorts]. from cadaavvers and then they inject. that fat in their ass to give them a. BBL. Like no [ __ ] And Whitney. Cummings, I told I sent it to Whitney. She's like, "Oh my god, it's literal. dead ass." [laughter]. That's such a funny line because that's. what it is. I mean, it's dead tissue. You're taking a dead person's fat and.

they're stuffing it in their ass. Cadaavver fat transfer utilizing. processed human donor fat. >> has become a major emerging alternative. to traditional autotogus fat transfers. like traditional Brazilian buttlfts or. BBLs and synthetic implants. How does it. work? Instead of harvesting fat from. your own body via liposuction, surgeons. use donated human fat harvested via. authorized tissue banks. Allegedly, the.

fat is rigorously screened, sterilized, and processed to remove all the donor's. DNA, cells, and genetic material. What. remains is a structural clumpy butter. >> So hot. Clumpy butter ass is so hot. [laughter]. >> Matrix of collagen, proteins, and growth. factors. When injected into the body, this matrix provides immediate volume. and also acts as a biological scaffold. that encourages your own natural tissue.

to integrate and grow into it. >> Yeah, that's gross, bro. >> Dead ass. [laughter] Actual dead ass. And women are doing this. How See if you. can find a video of them doing it. >> I was I was thinking like, how's your. >> You don't want [laughter] to. >> They call it zombie filler. Oh, >> that's so nasty. That's so nasty. >> How about you just do some squats, you. lazy [ __ ] [laughter]. >> but that's people like a real ass.

anyway. The ass and the legs, >> it has to match, folks. >> It has to match. You can't fake it. It's. like, you ever see those dudes that uh. they don't really have muscles, but they. get oil injected into their arms and. it's just like weird. >> Weird. Like. >> it's almost like a dude. It's. >> I saw this Brazilian dude. He had it on. his biceps. Traps. giant crazy. shoulders, big tits, crazy and he's like. flexing, doing all this stuff, but it. looks weird cuz it's your body. It's. like doesn't fit.

>> It doesn't fit your body. That's the. same thing when a girl gets a crazy fat. ass and she's got these toothpick legs. cuz she's lazy. >> Yeah. >> Like that doesn't fit your legs. This is. looks like you're wearing a diaper. This. is crazy. Don't do that. >> Yeah, man. Dude, >> commit to the process. >> Women go to the extreme. >> I know. Yeah. >> Well, the thing is I think if you do. just a little bit, just a little bit of. dead ass, maybe it's nice. >> You know, I bet there's girls that have. done it that you go to the right doctor. Like this Beverly Hills dude, he's like, "I got you.".

>> Just enough. >> You're just going to plump that sucker. up just a little bit. Just a little bit. >> Yeah. Little bit of dead ass. >> Little bit of just a touch. Just a touch. of dead ass. >> That's pretty gross. Like for someone to. put someone else's clumpy butter in. [laughter]. It's [ __ ] completely disgusting. >> How does your body even react to that? Or how do like. >> not well. >> Yeah. >> Not well. >> And then to have all that take out the. DNA and all this other stuff. >> What if they don't? What if that's. [ __ ] What if the DNA is in there?

What if you start getting weird. memories, [laughter]. >> you know? >> Yeah. >> Weird memories from ass tissue. Like. weird nightmares. >> Photos here are rough. I just. >> Let's go. PULL THEM UP. >> RIGHT HERE. >> OH. Elderly male fresh cadaavver underwent a. layered dissection of bobs. >> So they're taking fat from an elderly. guy's face. Actual dead body. >> Whoa. >> Does it matter where the fat comes from? >> I guess not. I guess it's just fat. So. this is a dead guy and they're peeling. So who sold his body to some [ __ ].

laboratory with have the clumpy butter. in this? >> Look at that in the upper right hand. corner. a co a whole crazy like. >> so this is pre- deadass and post. deadass. >> See that's not bad. >> It's not bad but that lady could have. done that with the gym. >> That that lady could have done that with. She didn't go crazy there. That's just a. little dead ass. Just a just a touch. That probably looks good on the side if. you turn it sideways. >> Does there any photos where they show. >> this video there says one shot cost 20.

grand. >> Let's see that guy. He looks like a. demon. >> Well, these videos [laughter] are That's. not even a real estate. That's AI. >> It falls down. Yeah, it falls down a. weird weird path here. >> Oh my god. >> Uh yeah, I I'm not showing those photos. either. It's disgusting. [groaning]. >> So, they're just sucking fat out of dead. people. [sighs and gasps] I had one of. my knees reconstructed with a cadaavver. graft. One of my ACL's. I got a they use. a um a uh Achilles tendon because the.

Achilles tendon is thicker and stronger. than the actual ACL and they put it in. my right knee. It's never been a. problem. Holy. >> works great. >> From from your from your own from your. own body. >> No, no. From a dead dude. >> OH, OKAY. >> OH, WHAT'S THAT? >> That says uh glutial augmentation. So. that's butt, >> right? >> That says fat grafting. >> So that would be putting fat into the. butt. Oh, where's that scar? Oh, >> bro, that scar is gigantic.

>> You can have this. >> Got a fork holding it open. >> What? Look how green everything looks in. there. Oh, that looks so nasty. It looks. like bad cheese. >> That's disgusting. >> That looks like, >> you know, when you go to see like dry. dryaged meat and you pass by those nice. steakhouse, >> they have the dry-aged meat container. What? So, you're going to get your fat. put in your ass or an implant, but then. you have this massive scar. >> Oh, here. I mean, these pictures are. gnarly. That is another head. Look at.

the ear right there. >> So, that's where they're getting the. fat. >> How much fat do you have in your head? [sighs]. >> Well, that says temporal augmentation by. intermediate fat pad filler injection. So, that's someone getting that done to. their head. >> Maybe it's like tightening up the skin. >> Yeah, maybe. Right. like a filler. >> Oh yeah, there you go. Look, it says. here. >> Oh, she looks good. That actually looks. good. So that's from her fat fat. grafting. >> Sorry, I can't show these photos, guys.

You have to Google yourself. >> Sorry, folks. Some of it's disgusting. But if you look at like people's face. when they get older, that's one of the. things that happens is you lose collagen. and fat in your face. And that would does make sense that. putting it in. would be better. See, that looks like. hell. >> Both of them look like hell. Don't do. that. Go to the gym, lazy [ __ ] What is. that one to the right of it, though? That one to the right. Yeah, like there. >> So, she got a little bit of a bubble.

butt from that. But again, go to the. gym. >> Yeah. >> Jesus Christ. >> Yeah. Look at the rest of the body. >> Yeah. Go to the gym. This is crazy. >> Questionable tattoo. >> Yeah. Questionable choices. You get dead. ass. You get dead people's tissue pumped. into your butt so that more people want. to [ __ ] you. Like, hey, find Jesus. Go. find [laughter] Jesus. Okay. If you are out there, I don't give a lot. of advice, but this is my advice. If. you're out there and you're thinking. about getting dead people's fat pumped. into your ass, you probably need Jesus.

>> Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. I mean, BBL's are kind of going out of style, man. >> Yeah. You know, I think Naturals are. coming back. >> They should. Naturals are making a. comeback. >> Yeah. >> Just work out. Like there's a lot of. ladies that had flat butts that they put. in the time, they put in the effort, and. now you're like, damn, you can do that, too. >> Yeah, >> anybody can do. It's just the process. >> Yeah. >> People don't like that process. They. >> just want quick results. >> Exactly. Want to work for it. >> They want Ompic and then they want dead.

ass. >> They don't want to lose the weight. >> Seems like a nice combo they could put. together. >> And now they're saying and then put it. back where you want it. >> Yeah. Retrouide. What is that called? >> Red tide. >> Redatride. Redatride and dead ass. They. should have like a one-stop shop. >> Yeah. Now they're saying uh Ozmpic eats. up your bones. >> Oh, yeah. Oh, definitely. >> So, everybody's everybody's [ __ ] who's. been taking it. >> Well, it's not just that. It also kills. your desire. This is what's weird. Like, people are falling out of love when they.

get on OMIC. Like, they lose their. desire. >> Really? >> Yeah. The people lose ambition. They. lose desire. They also lose addiction. Like people that are addicted to. cigarettes, people that are addicted to. alcohol and gambling. Apparently Ozmpic. helps that because you're basically. killing desire. Like your your desire to. go and smoke a cigarette, your desire to. have a drink. >> gets killed by ompic. >> Yeah. It also changes your whole face, right? Oh yeah. Eats up all your the fat. face. Yeah. >> Yeah. That's a problem. Especially for.

ladies as they get older. Like the more. fat you have on your face, the better. you look. Like you when your skin gets. real thin and starts draping over your. bones like you don't that doesn't look. healthy. >> Yeah. >> Looks like a problem. >> You're like they cut they just cut. [laughter] weight. >> I know. >> Yeah. It's [ __ ] It's [ __ ] that. that's a part of our society now. And it. it's just preying on people's. lack of discipline and lack of. understanding of the benefits of going.

through a process and achieving a. result. Cuz if all these ladies that. wanted to do this instead, if they just. went to a gym, started eating healthy, they would feel better, they would think. better, their body would look better, everything would be better, and they. wouldn't have to get dead ass. >> Yeah. [laughter]. Yeah. It's just people being really. self-conscious, you know, >> about themselves. Like I know hot hot. ass chicks that I'm like, "Wait, you. take ompic? Why?" Like why? Oh, just. like a little, you know, I'm like, "You. don't need it." You know, >> I think some women say there's a real.

benefit to taking a micro dose after a. certain age. I was watching a video this. lady was talking about how micro doing. um these GLP1s is actually beneficial. for some women after a certain age. because it helps reduce inflammation. It. does a bunch of different things to. them, but I don't know. >> Do you uh gain the weight? Like say if. like there's people that just I'm just. going to do it like like really. overweight people. They're just. >> who obviously like have strug do do. struggle with diet and and working out.

Uh when when they get off, do like they. gain all the weight back like everything. else. >> Most likely if it's a psychological. issue, the moment you get off of it, that psychological issue is going to. return. >> cuz that like shrinks your stomach or. something, right? >> Yeah. Well, it does, but it's basically. you're starving yourself. Just like when. you got out of jail, you barely could. eat that double cheeseburger. Yeah. Right. It's cuz your stomach shrank. because you weren't eating much. That's. kind of the same thing that happens with. OMIC. I mean, what what happens to them. when people say, "Oh my god, it makes.

you lose bone mass. It makes you lose. muscle mass." Right? But so does. starving yourself. That's one of the. things that happens when people they go. on these crash diets. They go, "I'm just. I'm 30 pounds overweight. I'm just not. going to eat." Okay. Well, your body's. going to find food somewhere, so it's. going to eat itself. And yeah, your body. will eat fat, but it's also going to eat. muscle tissue. It's also going to eat. bone tissue. Your body's going to. consume itself to survive, which is. crazy. So these things that you're. getting these side effects of like bone. loss and muscle loss, that's what would.

happen if you just stopped eating too. It's your body doesn't have any. nutrients. Just like when you were in. jail, you weren't getting any protein. You weren't growing any muscles. >> Yeah. >> Your body is not getting the nutrients. that it needs. So it's just shrinking. So, retatrutide, is that how you say it? >> I believe so. >> So, that the difference between this. reatride, this one is a different one in that this. one allows you to have all the weight. loss, but you don't lose the muscle. loss. It's not the same thing. >> I want to show you a picture of what I.

look like, bro. >> Oh, yeah, please do. >> That was horrible. >> You got my number. Send it to me and. I'll send it to Jamie. >> All right. >> If um. >> It's shocking, bro. You like, "Holy. hell, bro. If this reatatide, am I. saying it right? Retatrutide, reatutide, whatever it is. This one they think is. going to be incredible because this one. is going to give you all the fat loss. but none of the muscle loss, none of the. bone density loss. And I wonder if it's. going to be the same for like desire and. whether it's going to [ __ ] with.

addictions and all those other things, too. cuz I was reading this thing where. employers are um they're getting upset. at people taking GLP1s because it. changes their ambition. I saw it too and. I've been trying to find that article. ever since I saw it and I can't find it. and it's not that it is but it makes me. wonder if it's like uh. >> right propaganda. >> propaganda against it from the people. who are on like you know selling the. good stuff now they don't want the don't. get replaced. >> it could put it into perplexity see what.

AI our AI sponsor. >> are people working. >> yeah um. >> habits change. >> do employ are there employers who are. having a problem with their. employees taking GLP1s. because it affects their. work. or ambition. I think what they were. saying was ambition. It's making people. less less ambitious,

which kind of makes sense. I mean, because I think a lot of people their. ambition is probably an addiction. They're probably addicted to kicking ass. and doing things. Here it goes. Yes. But. the main employer issues with GLP1s. today are cost coverage and side effects. impacting attendance and productivity. Not a clearly documented widespread loss. of work ambition. >> might be the same thing kind of. probably. >> Yeah. Productivity sure if you're not as. ambitious but attendance is if unless. you're injured you're hurt might you.

might just show up. You might like I. don't even feel like going. >> Right. Right. So side effects and. performance common common side effects. are nausea, vomiting, diarrhea plus. headaches and fatigue can result in. comfort, increase absenteeism and are. tied to workplace performance issues if. unmanaged. Legal and HR complexity. Employees must balance cost control with. ADA, HIPPA, and non-discrimination rules. when deciding coverage and when asked. about employee medication use. Evidence.

of motivation and ambition. There are. anecdotal stories uh media and personal. accounts of people feeling less driven. or shifting life priorities on GLP1s, but these are not yet backed by large. workplace specific studies. So employers. are not treating lost ambition as a. primary policy issue. But I bet they're. thinking about it. Yeah, I bet they're thinking about it. I. mean, it makes sense. Did you find it? >> I'm having [snorts] a sense to me right. now. >> Okay. >> Yeah.

>> What you looked like right when you got. out? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was crazy, dude. I can't find her right now. I'm having. someone send it to me, though. >> Okay, no worries. I'm kind of. embarrassed to show you, but I got to I. got to got to see this cuz if you see me. now, I'd be like, "Holy hell, bro.". >> Yeah. A good before and after is great. >> Yeah. >> The the people that are really brave are. the ones that say, "I'm going to get in. shape, so here's what I look like right. now." And they post that on the internet. like, "Whoa, that's that's crazy.".

>> Yeah. But that's also it's a good way to. hold yourself accountable, >> you know? >> Yeah. >> You want a bunch of people to [ __ ] on. you. Fat [ __ ] Like fat shaming works. >> I know it's not nice. People don't like. it, but when someone calls you a fat. [ __ ] and you're like, "Oh man, I am a. fat." [laughter] Like you start thinking. and you go to work. >> Yeah, man. >> You know. >> Yeah. A little bit of hard work, you. know. A little bit of hard work. Get it, you know. Well, listen, if there's a way. where massively obese people that are. dying can get healthy, and if it's it's.

a GLP1, I'm all for it. But for. everybody else, just get to work and. you'll you'll you'll respect yourself so. much better. Like right now, like you. you could look in the mirror and go, "Damn, I look so much better than I did. when I got out of jail.". >> Cuz you could have stayed looking. exactly that same way, >> right? If you got discouraged when you. were saying like, "I don't know if I'm. going to be able to do this. I have no. endurance. I don't know if it's ever. going to come back. A lot of people. would have just quit right there. >> Yeah. >> And if you quit right there, you. wouldn't be able to appreciate the.

results when you kept going. And that's. the that's the case with everybody. that's at a bad place right now. >> Just go to work. Go to work. Write it. down. Go to work. >> Put it together. >> Yeah. And Yeah, man. I I think it just. makes you that much like uh stronger and. and like aside from the the work but. like in internally. >> 100%. >> You know, makes you value yourself so. much more and health. >> Absolutely. >> You know, >> it's also good for your brain and your.

brain's ability to do tough things. If. you get through something difficult, you. realize like, oh, I've been here like. the next time some [ __ ] up [ __ ]. happens to you, like I've been here. before. I know it sucks right now, but. I'm going to just trust this process. >> Exactly. keep on trucking. >> So, right when I when I got back to work. and I was just like, man, I'm I'm in the. phase right now where it it sucks, you. know, like waking up sore as hell. I. remember the first time I did leg day, I. couldn't [laughter] I couldn't even. [ __ ] walk, dude.

>> Did you have somebody walking you. through it like how to do it correctly. where you don't overdo it in the. beginning because like did you work with. a trainer or anybody? >> Um, yeah. Yeah. uh uh like over at the PI. there. So when we first got started, we. obviously didn't want to like. >> cuz I'm I was so eager to just get back. in shape and and and it it was it was. tough, you know, but that's like one of. the things that that uh like while. running, >> why I like I like I love to run and is.

it's like one of those things where like. a lot of people they reach to a point. where they get tired and then they just. stop, you know, they they they'll just. quit, you know, and like you got push. yourself more and more harder and more. harder. Next thing you know, you catch a. second wind and you know you're you're. you're jamming. But when I first first. started, I swear, dude, like I would. like So when I first got out, my my. oldest son, he he wrestled for high. school. Um and he was like, "Oh, you.

want to wrestle? You going to you want. to wrestle?" Cuz like, you know, he knew. I was out of shape. I'm like, "Oh, man. He might [laughter]. he might get me.". you know, so in my mind I'm like, "All. right, I got one good one good take down. in me." And. >> and and yeah, sure enough, um we. wrestled and then shot for that. takedown. Got the taked down and got up. and now I'm just like, "Whoa, whoa." And. like he just ragdalled me after that. [laughter]. You just ragdalled me, man. And then uh.

actually a couple days ago, I got back. from Vegas and and I hit him up. I was. like, "What's up now?" You know, like. what's up now? And and yeah, man, from. from that first that from that first. workout to this one, you know, we made. it through a whole a whole workout, you. know. It's such a good feeling because. I got really like really discouraged, bro. I'm not even going to lie. And. there was points where I was like got. real emotional. I was like, dude, how am.

I this tired? Like this is crazy, you. know? And then I just always told myself. like, dude, you've made it through so. much in your life that you could come. back and you can bounce back for this or. that. This whole this whole process has. been like to me it's just like a. comeback comeback comeback story, you. know? >> Of course. >> Yeah. >> And it's just about trusting that. process. It's just so hard when you used. to be at one point and now you're way. way way below that and you got to build. back up to get to where you used to be,

>> you know? But yeah, >> that's that's kind of a blessing. There's a blessing in that because you. realize like after it's over, it's like, "Wow, I did it. I did it. I pushed. through all that [ __ ] I got my body. back in shape again. I'm back." Like. when you get done with your camp, when. you're peing and on that last week, you're going to feel so good. >> Yeah, man. Honestly, I feel great now. and and like I feel like I've I've done. such a great job and and actually. recovering more doing like a lot more.

recovery stuff and I've been I've been. incorporated that so much and before I. used to just go go and like now I take. the time to recover and and um I've been. I've been taking this stuff from. regenerate. Uh. >> what is that? >> Uh regenerate is uh. >> uh like n what is it? NAD or something. like that. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Stuff like that. And and. >> so it's NMN. So it's like a precursor to. NAD. >> Yeah. USC find that stuff provides it. >> Yeah.

>> Okay. So that means it's third party. tested. >> regenerate. >> H does that. Um who who makes that. stuff? Do you know? Um, I know I know. that they're they're they're definitely. UFC uh. >> approved. >> approved and like I think they might. even sponsor. >> Thorne is the main supplement company. that you that the UFC uses, right? Yeah, >> because they're all third party tested. It's like safe for sport.

>> Yeah, the uh it's um True Shield. certified products for professional. athletes. And uh yeah, I started I. started taking that like about two two. fights ago. And yeah, I feel great. I. guess it's like NAD, like some kind of. anti-aging or something like that and. stuff. >> Yeah, it's uh it basically lengthens. your telomeres and it is uh it sort of. brings your body back. to like a level of recovery that it had.

when it was younger. Allegedly, there's. a lot of there's a lot of people that. take IV NAD and they take um NAD and um. you know, you can get it in the subcut. [clears throat] um what's it called? Subcutaneous uh under the fat. injections. They do it that way too. >> Yeah. Yeah. But um. >> but I think some of the best ways is. actually NMN that stuff because it what. it does is it it's like a precursor and. your body just makes more NAD that way.

>> Yeah. Um, >> I take it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, it works. I take it before I go to. bed every night. And you know, Andrew. Huberman was telling me about it. He was. saying it he noticed that when he really. felt like it was working. One of the. things that he noticed was that his. fingernails were growing quicker. And. that's the same thing with me. I I. texted him the other day. I go, "This is. crazy. Like my fingernails grow way. quicker than they used to." And I think. it's because of that. >> That's crazy. I just noticed that, too. My nails been going crazy, too. >> Yeah. I think it's your body's ability. to regenerate.

you know, and and heal. And like for. fighters, like there's nothing more. important than your ability to recover. from a hard workout so you can get to. another one. >> Yeah. And um I spent a lot of time like. in hyperbaric hyperbaric chamber. And. now there's this thing um like this P. pimp PMF. >> PMF P Yeah, PMF or something like that. Uh, and it's like a actual like a whole. bed and just like. >> just kicks up like like just. >> um some like electric like little.

pulses. >> Mhm. >> And I'll be taking naps on that thing. and just so some of the stuff I don't. even know what it does and I was like, "Oh, it's for recovery. I'll do it." You. know, >> hyperbaric works and it works in the. same way that NA NAD and NMN work in. that it lengthens your telomeres. They. did this study out of uh a university in. Israel, I believe it was, where they put. people on a protocol of for 90 days they. did 60 90 minute sessions at a. hyperbaric chamber and they showed that.

their telomeir increase was equal to a. 20-year difference in biological age. So. it makes your cells younger because. you're infusing them with energy. You're. infusing them with oxygen. Every time I. do it, when I do it for like a series of. it, where I get like real consistent. with it, when I have the time, I always. feel better. I'm always like, "Why don't. I do this all the time?". >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm in there like four. or five times a week. >> That's huge. That That is one of the. best things ever for your recovery, especially as you get older, you know,

cuz it makes your body react like a. young body does, you know? >> Yeah. So, I'm over here against the. racing against the clock, man. So, I'm. like trying to do everything possible to. to for my body just to recover from. these hard ass workouts, you know? >> How long was it after you got out before. you start sparring again? >> Um, I recently just started sparring. about 3 weeks ago. Two. >> So, you get yourself a month and a half. or so. >> So, what I wanted to do was was. definitely get in shape. Get get in good.

enough shape to like cuz if you go to. extreme and you're out of shape, they're. going to. >> you're going to get killed. >> Yeah. They're going to. >> It's going to be very demoralizing. >> Yeah. [laughter]. Yeah. So, I I definitely wanted to to. get my my get myself in good enough. shape. So, like. >> this whole time I've been doing like a. whole bunch of like weightlifting stuff. and and technical stuff and and a lot of. SNC stuff and and and all that. >> strength and conditioning, just getting. your body back in condition again, ready. to go. >> So, just recently, I'm like, "All right, I feel I feel I feel good enough to to.

to spar." and and um yeah, I've been. having pretty hard sparring sparring. sessions. >> Well, you were a guy that was known for. your endurance before, you know, you're. not a guy that fatigues in fights very. much, you know, so it's like and you. always push a good pace, too. So, for. you to get back to where you used to be. and have that same style, like you have. to be in shape first. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I've been. getting getting ready just to start. getting ready, you know, right? Right.

>> Yeah. Do you wish you had more time than. August or do you think it's a good. enough time period? >> I think it's a good enough time. especially like the way I feel now. >> and you have two months to go. >> Yeah. And I have like another eight. eight and a half weeks, eight nine. weeks, something like that. >> That's nice. Have you been to Serbia. before? >> Never been. I've been watching videos of. like uh the Serbian crowd like in. basketball and. >> Yeah, it's wild, >> bro. That [ __ ] is. >> crowds are crazy. So, so in my mind, that's what I'm that's what I'm.

expecting. I'm expecting like to be. chanting and. >> they might be. Have they had a UFC in. Serbia before? >> This is the first one. >> Whoa, bro. First UFC in Serbia. >> We've played those Serbian basketball. games a bunch of times. Here we go. >> Outside one. >> There's an outside. They got fires and. [ __ ]. >> What? I don't hear anything. >> I don't. >> Yeah. So, I I had looked I had looked. this up because I'm I'm. >> these people.

They treat it like war. Like the. audiences, they they chant like they're. like a war is going on. >> in the middle of a basketball game. And. you know all these Serbians that are. coming over and dominating an American. basketball. Well, guess why? [laughter]. >> Yeah, >> those areough tough [ __ ]. >> That's originally why I I looked this up. a long time ago and um was it Nola Joic? Joic, one of the top NBA players. Uh, and I was like when I when I uh when I. fan fanboy over like and I love.

basketball. Basketball is like one of my. favorite sports. Um, I always like look. into like the background of the. basketball player where he came from and. I had already seen the Serbian. basketball crowds like man dope to go to. like a a basketball game in Serbia, you. know? >> Yeah. I'd be careful what I ate and. drank. [gasps]. >> You know what I'm saying? Going over. there to fight their main dude in the. main event. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. Just got to make sure. that's Yeah, in my mind I'm like, dude, that's that's crazy, man. It's like.

>> especially they've never had a a fight. over there before. Never had a UFC over. there. I'm not accusing the Serbians of. doing I'm like might be a few. unscrupulous gamblers, a few people. >> Yeah. So, >> look at this. Look at Here we go. This. is a basketball game. [cheering]. I mean, they got war drums. They got war. drums. They're pounding. [cheering].

[screaming]. >> Bro, this is Viking [ __ ]. >> Yeah, [laughter]. >> I love it. >> So, this is what this is what I'm. expecting when I go. >> I love it. I love it. I want to go see a. basketball. >> Especially fighting their their guy. >> Oh, yeah. It's going to be nuts, man. For sure. But it's going to be exciting. It's going to be so weird for you just. to when they shut that cage like, "Oh my. god, I'm back.". >> Yeah. >> I was in jail in Mexico. >> I was in a different kind of cage. [laughter]. >> Yeah. Like a way less preferable cage.

>> Wild, man. What a crazy [ __ ] story, >> you know. >> Yeah, man. And and I get to um you know, tell a whole keep the story going, you. know, make it even make it even better. >> Yeah. Does it does it piss you off. because like you had so much momentum. after beating Kevin Holland. Like that. was a big victory for you. >> Yeah. Couldn't have happened at a at a. at a worse time, man. >> I know cuz Kevin's a tough guy and a. tricky guy. And that that was a.

welterweight fight, right? >> Yeah. >> And fighting him at welterweight, that's. where he's at his best, you know? Kevin. at welterweight is really that's where. he belongs. >> Yeah. >> If you to beat him, that's huge. >> Yeah, dude. And uh. >> he's such a tricky guy, too, man. Yeah, it was an amazing fight, dude. I hadn't. I hadn't been I I think I don't think. I've had a fight like that in my career. where. >> so much going on. I was almost I I. dropped him in the second, you know. I. was blew my [ __ ] gas tank trying to. finish him and then come the third round.

he drops me and then almost finishes me. and I bounce back and then end up on. top. It's like this. These are those are. the fights that I train for, bro. in my. mind that's what I'm training for, you. know, it's like. >> and it couldn't have worked out. It it. couldn't that fight was amazing. I had. that's my third time being scheduled to. fight him and um finally finally. happened and it was an amazing fight. It. was everything I expected it to be and I. I expect this fight to be an absolute. war as well. You know, dude dude's um.

you know, he's got a couple knockouts. come, you know, looks pretty good. >> He's a very skillful guy. Very skillful. guy. Euros Medic is no joke. He's very. good. >> Yeah, >> it's going to be a good fight. >> Yeah, >> it's perfect. >> Yeah, I'm I'm I'm going to bring it, you. know. I'm sure I'm I'm bringing that. >> You always do well prepared. Yeah. >> But for that, man, it's going to be so. emotional for you like having that. moment like to realize that you you're. fully all the way back. >> Yeah. >> I can't imagine.

>> Yeah, man. >> What is the craziest [ __ ] you saw in. jail in Mexico? The craziest [ __ ] I I saw in jail in. Mexico. Um, nothing really too crazy, man. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> I would imagine Tijana jail is pretty. [ __ ] crazy. >> Was it because you were in sort of a. protected area? >> No. To be honest with you, the the the. area I was in was kind of like it's like. the VIP section, bro. It was like. >> everybody was like there like someone.

with money or like. >> you know well we paid to be there you. know I wasn't like very it wasn't like. that protected it was kind of dangerous. in a sense where like at night all the. cells doors are open you know so it's. kind of like. a little little dangerous on that little. sketchy. >> yeah a little sketchy you know. >> nobody got killed or anything while you. were there. >> not on my not in my section. >> but in other section in the jail. People. got killed. >> Yeah.

>> Um. >> how many. >> in my since the whole time I was there. like I'd say like two or three, you know, but um. man, the craziest thing I saw in jail. probably probably some of this. I bought. an ounce of weed. >> You bought an ounce of weed? I That was. the last thing I would buy if I was in. jail for weed. [laughter]. >> I bought an ounce of weed. >> Were you worried about they're going to. piss test you or anything? Yeah. >> No. No. [laughter].

>> Well, the guards brought it in, so I. figured like, oh my god, I'm going to be. in trouble for this if the guards are. bringing it. >> That's crazy. The guards sold you weed. That is wild. How much is an ounce of. weed in Mexico. >> in jail? >> About $300. It's crazy, bro. You could you could pay. for girls to come in, bro. >> Really? >> Yeah. They have like a a a menu. >> Shut the [ __ ] up. >> Yeah. of. >> and you can't get a steak. >> I'll be like, "Keep the ladies. Can you. get me a ribeye?".

>> Yeah, [laughter] dude. We had a We had a. barbecue one time. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. We had a We had a a [ __ ] um We. literally had like a barbecue. It was. like, well, not on a grill, but when I. first got there, we had like these hot. these hot plates and and the leader uh. would always like do stuff for the whole. tier, you know, like he'll always like, oh, today we, you know, like every once. in a while, say like once or twice a. week, maybe. Um, no, not once or twice a.

I said like once or twice maybe uh in. every couple weeks like we'll get like. pizza like they'll order pizzas and. [ __ ] Really? >> Yeah dude. And and and for like I think. it was like 1,500. the you could like order a chick bro. like a thou like 1,000 bucks for like. 1,500 something like that. and they'll. put you in the conjugal in the conjugal. ruins with some random chick and you. could, you know, have have your time.

with her for like 3 4 hours or something. like that. >> So, you could basically if you have. money and influence, you could kind of. do anything in there. >> Yeah. I mean, if you got if you got. money, you'll you'll be okay, >> I guess. >> Yeah. >> As okay as you're going to be in a. Tijana jail. >> Yeah. But, I mean, you're still locked. in a cell. I mean, we would only go. >> we would only get um two days of yard. for one one and an hour and a half, you. know, an hour and a half. And the whole. time I spent it running.

>> Wow. >> Trying to run, trying to keep my my. cardio up. And it was crazy, dude, cuz I. was like the only dude out there like. working out, you know, and and honestly, by the time I left, I had everybody like. working out, running or or like doing. some kind of like it was it was crazy. how how I I uh. my just me working out and doing like my. daily thing just like affected other. people, you know, like.

>> Sure. >> Yeah. I was like I I I remember like I. would have like I would come out to on. the tier and um I'll be like doing doing. workouts with with dudes right there, you know, and like I said, there's a. couple dudes in there that are some. dogs, you know, and uh yeah, hopefully. hopefully I if if they do get out, you. know, >> can they contact you if they get out? Do. you have your information? >> Yeah, I'm still in contact with them. >> Well, that's cool. Hopefully you can get.

them set up, man. Did you get the. picture in? >> Oh my god. Yeah, I'll send it to you. right now. >> Send it to me. I'll send it to Jamie. The world needs to see this. >> Wow. [laughter]. >> Is it crazy looking at it? >> Yeah. [clears throat]. >> Did you send it? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Here we go.

waiting for it to come in here. >> But yeah, man. >> So, the two you said a few people got. killed. Did you know those people? >> No. No, I didn't I didn't know. But when. >> Oh my god, this picture is crazy. >> Yeah. When uh stuff like that happens. like there's obviously like you hear cuz. um Oh, you know what? A lot of dudes. were overdosing in there. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> From fentanyl? >> I think so, bro. A lot of dudes were in. there like doing heroin and stuff. Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. That picture's crazy though, huh? >> It is crazy. >> Yeah. And then like to. It's crazy, dude. It is crazy how how. I've how I've bounced back from that. >> It is. >> Wow. You look so thin. >> Yeah, dude. Just malnourishment at its. finest, bro. Oh my god. >> Yeah. You look like a dude who's just. getting out of prison. That's what you. look like. >> Yeah. So that's the first. >> What do you got? A burrito there. >> Uh some tacos. [laughter].

>> So that's like right after I had the. burger. I only took like two bites of. those tacos. Like yo, I'm full. >> I imagine your stomach must have been. super shrunk. But yeah, you could see. where you lost all your muscle mass. Yeah. >> Yeah. So to bounce back from that and to. be to, you know, pre be in decent shape. right now. >> And. >> how many guys died of overdose while. you're there? about three or four of them. >> Damn. So, you could kind of get anything. you want really in jail. You get any.

kind of drug. Could you get steroids? >> Uh, I don't think so. I try to get. protein. [laughter]. >> Protein powder. >> Yeah. Yeah. Some protein powder, but we. never It was never able to happen. >> That's crazy. They get you heroin. No. problem. >> Yeah. >> Protein powder. Oh, it's kind of an. issue. >> Yeah. >> That's ridiculous. That's crazy. >> Yeah. I had I had turned myself into. like a little gym, man. And I was like. just trying to trying to stay busy, man. I always told myself like, man, there's. for some this this there's got to be.

some way that this going to this going. to work out for me, you know. And, you know, I ended up I ended up having. to, you know, pay a nice amount of. money, you know, to get to be here to be. here today. It was a lot, bro. >> I'm sure we'll talk about that later. But I'm Listen, I'm glad you got out. you know, I I had only heard about it um. maybe a few months ago. I'd heard about. it like.

I want to say three, four months ago cuz. someone had asked where you were like. you know someone saying you know who we. haven't seen in a while is Drod and then. someone said dude I heard he's locked up. in Tijana and I was like oh no like what. [ __ ] h like that could be it forever. You hear someone's locked up in a. Mexican jail, you're like, [snorts]. "That could be it forever." Never hear. from you again. >> Yeah, man. Uh. I'm so happy to be out, dude. >> I can only imagine.

>> I can only imagine. I mean, listen, it's. You don't appreciate the sunshine until. you experience a lot of rain. And. unfortunately, that's how people. operate. You know, you get real. accustomed to things being great and. then you don't feel good about it. anymore. You need like a little bit of. that in your life sometimes. Just a. little bit of a wakeup call to let you. realize like you should be so happy and. so thankful that you get to experience. this life, especially the way you're. experiencing it. I mean, what a dream to.

go from being a guy who's in and out of. jail, [ __ ] up your whole life to. being a top 15 UFC welterweight. contender in arguably one of the. toughest divisions in the sport, if not. the toughest. I mean, the UFC. welterweight division is [ __ ] crazy. You got Carlos Proz, you got Shawn. Brady, you got Morales, >> you know. >> Yeah, dude. And before I got arrested, we we were I was going to fight Protest. >> Wow. >> I would have fought him in Brazil.

>> Woo. >> Yeah, >> that would have been wild. >> Yeah, dude. And. >> yeah, I mean, it's crazy to see like how. the division has changed. >> Mhm. Like right now the top five dudes. are it's Ian Gary Prozes Morales. um Makachev's Champion. >> and it's completely top completely like. different now from from. >> from when I when I got arrested you. know. >> Did you see the uh JDM protest fight?

>> Uh no I wasn't able to see that one. [sighs]. >> Protest looks so good. He's he's so. clever. That's a tricky striker, man. >> And he's so long. So long for the weight. class. It's almost like his arms belong. to a dude who's seven feet tall. You. know what I mean? Like his arms and legs. are so long. He's so slick. >> Yeah. When I um when I first got. released, um. we were we were planning to fight Leon. Edwards.

>> Yeah. But um I think it would have been. July 11th and that would have been way. too it would have been too soon. you know, but I mean the August fights. couple weeks after that. But, you know, >> that's a big factor though, those couple. weeks when you're dealing with like your. body recovering from what you've been. through. That's that's August sounds. right. July sounds early. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, no, I'm I'm I'm going to. be ready, bro. I'm going be in super. good shape. Um, and and I just got I.

just trust all the the work that's ahead. of me, all the work that I have lined up. and and and all the recovery and and. just just it's like like like I said, man, like just appreciating. everything, you know, my like my life, bro, to I've been out of jail before and. no one ever gave a [ __ ] you know? Like. now I'm I'm out and and I have these. amazing opportunities and I'm sitting. here talking to you, bro. Well, and more. importantly, you got a big fight coming.

up. So, that's very exciting. I'm very. happy for you, brother. >> Hell yeah, man. >> I can't imagine what you went through. I. can't imagine what it felt like. wondering if you're ever going to get. out, >> you know, and thank God you had the. resources and you knew the right people. and. >> they figured out how to do it and. >> turn you into a Mexican. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> That dual citizenship. That's wild. >> Yeah. Well, I can't wait to hear all. about it off air, but uh congratulations. on getting out. I look forward to your. fight. I'm really pumped. I'm really.

pumped for you. I'm very happy. Very. happy you're out. >> Yeah, man. Biggest fight of my life. coming up, man. I'm just embracing all. the work and just everything, bro. Just. everything. I'm loving the whole. process. >> Well, I can't wait to see the fight. So, congratulations. I know the people are. rooting for you, so thank you for being. here, man. It was a lot of fun. >> Hey, thanks [music] for having me, bro. My pleasure. My pleasure. All right. Bye, everybody. >> [music].