JRE MMA Show #177 - Protect Ya Neck

Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. >> The Joe Rogan Experience. >> TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY. NIGHT. All day. >> Hello, boys. >> Good to see you. >> We're back in action. [laughter]. >> We're back. >> WE'RE BACK. >> WE were just talking and I told to get. [laughter] off. I told Ro, save this for. the air cuz Ro years ago. [ __ ] this had. to be like at least 10 years ago. 20.

years ago, >> that was like 2006, 2007. >> Crazy. So 20 years ago, Ro calls me up. and he says, "Tommy Lee wants to meet. you. He wants to talk to you about. something." I go, "Okay, sure." So we go. to see his concert. That was when he was. at Rock and Roll Supernov. That's right. >> So you had a TV show in Long Beach, >> right? Right. It was You and Eddie came. >> Me and Eddie Bravo came. And then uh. afterwards, first of all, Tommy Lee has. the dopest green room. Like he sets his. green room up like a [ __ ] after hours. party. He's got like tapestries on the. wall and candles and lights. Yeah. You.

walk in like damn. Like he doesn't. >> Yeah. He doesn't just walk into a cold. green room like I'm lazy. If I go on the. road, I just what what's your green. room? I'll go hang out in there. It's. like it doesn't just walk. But he has it. set up like everywhere is like calm and. relaxing and spiritual. And uh so I meet. Tommy and Tommy wants a fight kid rock. in the UFC. [laughter]. >> THIS. IS THIS is true. >> What makes people think they can do. this? >> It's for Pam Anderson's heart. >> Yeah. This is how this is kind of how it.

started. That was that way with Pam. >> Yeah. >> Like you know they both were married to. her. So. [clears throat]. >> Tommy and her always going to be. connected because of the kids. So, she. had split up with Kid Rock and Kid Rock. was emailing her, texting her, I guess, you know, still trying to get with her. Tommy is with her, not together, but you. know, they were together that day. And. he she asked him, you know, you're. friends with him. Can you call him and. tell him to stop calling me and [ __ ].

And Tommy's like, I don't want to get in. the middle of that [ __ ]. >> boy. >> And she's like, you know, if you know, please. So he winds up hitting, you. know, him up and like, "Look, dude, you. know, I don't really want to make this. call, blah, blah, blah." Of course, Kid. Rock took the heat. [ __ ] you. You know, blah blah. So they're [ __ ] each other. back and forth. Goes away. [clears throat] Now, there was some MTV. Awards thing, >> okay? >> And uh actually, let me back up first. We were in Vegas for a New Year's thing.

and there was this rumor that Kid Rock. was supposed to come with his bodyguard. and like and come to Tommy's room and. attack. >> So me, my man Kimmo, who you know as. well, um you know, we're sleeping in. Tommy's room hoping they show up and uh. of course they go to a different room. They do go to a room, kick a door in. I. think totally. >> they actually went looking for him for. real. >> I don't think they went looking for him. I think it was a big publicity [ __ ]. they sign some autographs and and they.

keep it moving. >> So I'm saying to Tommy, I go, "Yo, dude." I go, "Fuck him." I go, "You. should fight him on pay-per-view. Imagine all the money [laughter] that we. make." I go, "I'll fight his [ __ ]. security guy. Like, we'll [ __ ] make a. whole thing of it." He goes, "Man, that's brilliant.". >> Oh my god. >> So I go, "Uh, I go, you know, I'm. telling you." I said, "You should do." I. said, "Look, either you fight him and. you beat him up or he punks out and you. win either way." And he's like, he's.

like, "Yeah, yeah, I like this." So, he. talks to his management. Of course, it. just goes by the wayside. Well, they're. having some MTV awards [ __ ] Security's. not allowed on the floor there. They had. their own like c, you know, it was in a. casino. They have security for it. While. he's sitting in there with Pam, Kid Rock. like comes up kind of behind him and. pokes him and Tommy sees him and he goes. to stand up and Kid Rock suckers him. there. >> He hit him. >> Yeah. What? >> And I'm home. My phone is getting blown. the [ __ ] up. Like, what happened with.

Tommy? What happened with Tommy? I'm. like, I don't [ __ ] know. Like, I'm. not with him right now. And uh I get a. call, I swear, like 30 minutes later, and it's Tommy. And he's going, "Fuck. him." He goes, "I'm done with that. [ __ ] I want to fight him. I'm. gonna [ __ ] fight him now. I go, he. goes, I want you to train me. I go, he. goes, I'm going to move you out. I go, no, [laughter] you're moving to me. I. go, we're not going to be out here with. all your little [ __ ] ass kissers. I. said, if you're going to do it, you're. really going to do it. >> Was he working out at all at the time?

>> No. So, um, you know, the only working. out he does is on the drums, which he. does murder. So, um, >> that is a little bit of arm condition. [laughter]. That's like a little punchy back. And I. can show you a picture of him with a. choke on me and it's legit like he he. did train with Hian and he I told you. guys he trained some with Billy Blank. So [laughter]. >> Billy Blank was I've talked about this. on the podcast. He was a bad. motherucker. >> He was a one of those like Raymond. Daniels type karate point fighting.

character in the early days. >> He's a guy. He's [clears throat] a typo. guy. But we'll get to that later. >> We'll get to that. Props to Billy. Blanks. I bring him in and uh and I he I. told him I said, "Look, we're when we're. going to uh Long Beach." I said, "I know. Rogan. I can have him come in and you. can tell him your idea." [laughter] And. he and he goes, "All right, all right.". So, I bring Joe and Eddie, they meet. him. You he tells Joe he wants to fight. him literally. And Tommy said his uh. sanctuary was his management company at.

the time. I don't know if he still is or. not. So, they call Kid Rock's people. supposedly and offer this [ __ ] fight. on pay-per-view and Kid Rock's people. wound up calling back and basically. turning it down saying whoever loses is. ruined for, you know, for life, I guess, cuz looking like a [ __ ] cuz they both. had the rock and roll tough guy, you. know, image thing. >> So, uh, so he said that did he say that. in print? >> That's literally how it how it stopped. >> Was that in print? Whoever whoever.

[clears throat] loses this is ruined or. was that correct? >> No, no, no. That was the [laughter]. that was the that was that was. supposedly the response from Kid. [clears throat] Rock's management to. Tommy's management. >> That is correct. He would be correct, you know. >> Yeah, but if it's a good fight like a. Stefan Bonn and Forest G. >> Oh my god. >> Well, that would be different. Then they. both revolutionary that I kind of forget. who won that fight. >> Stephan Bonner, Forest Griest won that. fight. >> I know Forest won, but I kind of forget. because the fight was. >> so good. It was that was one of the most.

toss up fights of all time. Like who. [ __ ] knows? >> Dana did the right thing. He contracted. both. We actually talked about it in the. octagon right before he did it. >> Wow. >> Did you really? >> Yeah. Like you should give both these. [ __ ] a bonus. He's like. [clears throat] we're going to do that. I'm like [ __ ] yeah. It was amazing. >> Do you think uh if it wasn't for the. Ultimate Fighter it would have died out? >> Who knows, man? But it was like. lightning in a bottle because there was. another good fight before that. Diego. Sanchez [ __ ] Kenny Florian up, man. It. was that was a oneway beating,

[laughter]. >> but that was Diego Sanchez coming up. Like people got to see Diego fight too. many fights. They got to see the later. fights. They forgot what a monster Diego. was in his prime. He was audio animal. >> Question his grappling. I mean, Marcelo. got him, but you know, he he hung with. one of the best of all time. >> JustinC. Yeah. >> Is he was a [ __ ]. Listen, man. You can only get hit so. many times. >> Agreed. And he was at halfway gone. before taking. >> Well, he was always like this. open-minded weird thinker. Remember he.

had that guy that was training him that. you had a little bit of a. >> What about that loser? >> Joshua Fabia. >> Yeah, don't mention his name. [laughter]. >> That guy was demented, man. >> Well, he had Diego hanging upside down. like. >> Yeah, the video's insane. The video is. insane. But Diego was like super super. open-minded. like he was willing to. believe in magic. He was, you know what. I'm saying? Like he believed in himself. so much that Diego was like and he was.

also like doing weird stuff like he. would chew meat and and spit it out. He. would just chew it down like get all the. juices from it and then spit whatever. was left out. He wouldn't swallow the. meat. >> But he was fun to watch. He'd come out. [ __ ] animal. He was a [ __ ] animal. Steve Maxwell trained him for uh the. fight with BJ Penn and got him in insane. shape. But unfortunately, that was the. fight where BJ started. That was when BJ. was training with the Marinoviches. >> He was leaping out of pools.

>> BJ was unstoppable back then. There was. there was a time where I always say, watch BJ in his prime. [clears throat]. I'll put that dude up against anybody. >> BJ Prime. >> There's no doubt. I always say he's the. best for 55 of all time. He was like in. that in that window, right? in that. window when he beat. >> Matt Hughes prime. >> Yeah, he was a human Wolverine. >> Yeah, >> but you did a lot better with him than I. did. [laughter]. >> I thought he did. You had a championship. caliber jiu-jitsu, >> you know what I mean? And a guy like him.

relies on jiu-jitsu a lot, >> you know, and but BJ was just the I was. there's two fights, the Kenny for not. I'm sorry, Sean Sher flight. The Shawn. Sharp fight was prime BJ. Prime BJ. And. then what about. that's another one too. But Diego was. like more highly ranked [clears throat]. than Joe. Yeah. Rick Cow Uno. I mean, he. was a beast. >> Matt, look what he did to Matt Hughes. when he took the title. >> Yeah, he was a beast. >> Matt Hughes was just like, you're coming. up to my weight class. You [laughter].

know, that type of thing. >> He was a Wolverine. >> That dude would fight people at 200. He. fought Leota Machita 200 lb. That's. crazy. He was a Wolverine. He did good. for about that. >> [ __ ] animal and did real good. Scary. on the feet. >> Yeah. >> A natural 55 who fought as low as 45. Remember he went down to 45 a while. >> Bro, BJ was a monster in his prime. >> He was wellrounded too before guys were. super well-rounded. Like he threw hands. well. >> And if he just had the will to go.

through those Marinovich camps every. fight, he would have been unstoppable. >> Yeah. >> He just BJ would, you know, he would. just lose his focus a little bit. I. watched a YouTube documentary about like. the rise and trajectory and then the. later years. It was really well done, but it was all just talking about how. there's this prime BJ and that's when he. was training with the Marinoviches and. incredible conditioning and he could. just go fight and not worry about his. conditioning. >> Do you think he it wasn't laziness, right? What What do you think it was? >> A lot of friends, a lot of party. He's.

the king of the island. He's basically. the king of Hawaii. PJ Ben was the king. Everywhere he would go, people were. like, "It's PJ." I mean, he was a king. in Vegas, man. He in in those prime. years when he was the champ, he was a. huge star. So, I'm sure he's a huge star. in Hilo. He's probably hanging out with. the boys all the time, having a good. time. >> Plus, his family like had influence. there, right? They had like money. He. didn't come from poverty. But, it's just. like that it just was real hard to. maintain those kind of camps. Those. camps are insane.

>> He was also super super talented. And so. it's like he didn't have to work as hard. to still beat up people like in. practice. >> It definitely came easy. His flexibility. and leg dexterity. >> Oh my goodness. >> I remember when I fought him and we were. doing a rules meeting. This is the time. where like we could ask questions like. they did everybody in the rules meeting. and I'm in the rules meeting and Frank. Shamrock was in his corner and Frank's. like, "Are we allowed to in guard kick. him in the head from I'm like what the. how the hell?" like he was talking about. his flexibility just wrapping around the.

back of my head and kicking me in the. head from there and I was like what the. hell is this guy insane, >> right? I was like, how the hell is he. going to be able to kick me in the head. from there? But apparently BJ had that. flexibility to be able to do that behind. his head. >> He could do double lotus without using. his hands. >> So like sit back and just [ __ ]. completely cotus. >> Yeah, like interlocked with no hands. >> That's insane. nuts. >> His flexibility is bananas. And he.

worked on it. It wasn't just like a. natural gift. But how smart was he to. figure out if you could use your legs. like you could use your arms, they're so. much [ __ ] stronger, >> right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look at. this. There he is. >> That's nuts, man. You know what I'm. saying? He could put his own [laughter]. [ __ ] leg behind his head with no. hands. That's crazy flexibility. [clears throat]. >> I'd say he was going to kick you while. you were north south. >> Yeah. [laughter]. He going to do that. That is nuts. But. if is that legal? No. >> There's a lot of goofy rules, right?

Like that's there's a I don't think it. would be cool to stomp people in the. head and soccer kick them. But at least. knees to the head should be okay. I. agree with that because if you're. shooting on a single and you're holding. on to it and your head's right there, that's a stupid place to be in real. life, right? Let's just real life a real. fight. Why wouldn't the guy kne you in. the head? You're grabbing his knee. If. he's you're you're all right here, all. he has to do is knee you in the face and. he can't do it because you're on your. knees.

>> And let's be fair, like a knee when. somebody's on their feet is worse than. that. >> Yes. >> You know what I'm saying? Like that's. not way more behind it. >> Yeah. That's not as like if if if you're. on the floor, I kne you in the head, that's still not as bad as if me just. kneing you right in the face with on. Yeah. >> Well, especially if you're the Michael. Venom Paige fight, >> the cyborg cyborg. Yes. If you ever want to know like what's the. most destructive strike in MMA? >> Yeah. >> The most amount of power you can. generate has got to be a knee.

>> A flying knee. >> while guy's coming in when the guy's. like shooting in on you. >> The only thing I'm I'm not a fan of is. the. >> the kick the jab. [ __ ] the kick to the. knee. Oh, >> I'm not a fan of that kick. Yeah. Like. you saw what happens if if you hit it. right when Khalil did it. >> He did. Yeah. Modest. Like my my opinion there. is it's just something that if you hit. it right, it's it's an injury coming and. and not a good one. You can't tap. It's. not like a knee bar or something. So I. kind of think if you can't kick a guy in.

the side of the knee for that reason, why should you be able to [ __ ]. >> If you can kick in the knees, you should. be able to kick in the nuts. >> Yeah, [laughter]. >> I'm going to be real. I I need What are. we doing here? What are we doing here? We're pretending. Like wear a cup and I. can kick you in the nuts. There's some. good cups out there. >> Always get a steel one. It's crazy. Like. why why do we have some weird rules like. that? >> Yeah, it's crazy because like every time. somebody gets kicked in the nuts, you. say it. You always say it. Why don't you. get a steel cup? The fact that no one. has a steel cup to me. >> after all this time is unbelievable.

>> Code and it's ultimate cheap code in in. gu in grappling to somebody. on [laughter] remember air ranardi. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's a long time ago. >> Yeah. A long time ago. trained with him. at uh Legends and he mounted me and he. put his cup in my solar plexus like I. was ready to tap from his dick. [laughter]. >> All right, imagine imagine my two 265. doing that. You know what I mean? And I. always wore when I trained, you know,

>> as a lever for an arm bar like a knee. bar or anything. How you going to slide. your elbow past that? You know, it's a. weird [ __ ] look when the guys wear. the whole spandex and they have that. steel cup. So, they got like a. [laughter] big [ __ ] dick in their. >> Shy Carter cup. >> Yeah, it's [ __ ]. >> That's a Yel Romero. >> You remember? Yeah, right. Remember that. Shonyy Carter? I think Eddie [ __ ]. talked about it for the entire fight. It. was a King of the Cage fight and Shy was. fighting and he had a giant cup on. [laughter] and I swear Eddie just. commentated about the size of the cup.

It was hilarious. [laughter]. >> Bro, in the taekwond do days they had. ones you'd put on over your pants. So. you put you'd have your ghee pants on. and then you'd put these ones on over it. and it had like this big strap. It go. right up to your taint like right. literally to your [ __ ] and then go. all the way up like this and you would. strap it in. But it was way better. It. was way better cuz you had a boxing cup. >> No, it was a taco. It was just for. taekwondo. It was just literally. designed to wear outside of And that's. when I realized like oh you can never. wear regular cups. Like regular cups.

move too much. It's just sitting there. and sometimes your nut gets caught. between the cup and your leg when you. get hit there. It's way worse. >> And I think maybe the UFC should make. that mandatory. >> 100%. If you have to wear a mouthpiece, why don't you wear compression shorts? Wear those like the diamond MMA ones. >> That's a cup I have. I like. >> legit. Legit. And if you don't want to. wear steel, that's fine. You don't want. to have dental floss up your [ __ ]. [laughter]. on. >> It's uncomfortable. But that's I would.

think if I was advising someone, I'd say. get a [ __ ] steel cup before they. outlaw it. >> cuz they should have a long time ago. >> You should have to wear that though. I. mean, it would it would eliminate all. the nut shots. >> If you're smart, you would wear a steel. cup 100%. Somebody kicks you in the. nuts, it'll hurt them more than hurts. you. >> Like, it protects you from everything. >> It's uncomfortable. That's all it is. Just uncomfortable. So, >> I mean, so is fighting. >> Yeah. Yeah. So is fighting. So is. getting kicked in the nuts. Yeah. Dude, I can't believe it's legal. I really I.

It's like one of the How do you have. steel in there? >> But I don't think anybody has a bunch of. guys do. DC wore it every fight he had. >> Oh [ __ ]. >> dude. It's You imagine a guy diving on a. double and you [snorts] hip into him, >> man. >> You're slamming his face with your dick. Your dick [laughter] is in metal. >> Your dick's covered in metal. And that's. legal. You have to have pads on your. knuckles. Right. >> You have to have pads on your knuckles. and you got an armor plate over your.

[ __ ]. >> Yeah, I would I would definitely wear. that if I was fighting. Yeah, [laughter]. >> I'm selling them. >> Why not? I'm just selling them on my. website. >> because it's like there's no way that. should be legal. >> Yeah. >> Like how is that legal? >> I don't know. I. >> It's [ __ ] metal. >> You're bringing metal into the equation. A foot can hit metal. A knee can hit. >> You can do that and no and the fact that. no one does it. It's not well a few guys. do it. We were talking about different. guys who done it that that are currently. doing it and I know DC did it but.

there's a few guys who still do it and. we were talking about it on one of the. broadcasts. I don't remember which guys. he was pointing out but there's a few. guys Kenny Florian always wore a steel. cup. >> but the fact that not everyone. for sure%. >> dang it's [ __ ]. >> you here when Degrad starts talking. Thai. >> No he speaks fluent Thai. Does he. really? He's got that he's like a guinea. from from east from Boston. When when he. talks he can talk to Thai people, it.

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Yeah. >> You know what I mean? He was great and. he would let us tackle them and [ __ ]. mount them and [ __ ] you know what I. mean? As well. >> Yeah. He's great, Mark. He's a good. >> He's a really good coach, too. You know. who who was really impressive working. with him was Kevin James. >> You know Kevin James, you know, you. think of him as the king of queens. He. worked with Mark a lot and Kevin's been. my friend for years and I but I really. hadn't seen him hit paths. I saw him hit. hit paths with Delegrad. I was like. >> what the [ __ ] dude. I'm like that's. good. Like this looks good.

>> Marco make you look good. Marco make a. good [ __ ] coach man. He's a really. solid coach. >> Gave Longo a black eye. [laughter]. He sparred one time with Longo. Uh Kevin. J. was walking around like [ __ ] Petey. from the Little Ras. [laughter]. >> That's awesome. He's a He's a. deceptively fast dude. >> Yeah, he's athletic, you know, for big. dude. >> When I first met him, he was jacked. Like he was like he wasn't as big as he. got at one point in time, but he's. always kind of seesawed back and forth, but he was a karate guy. >> He was always doing karate when he was.

younger. >> Yeah, he's super athletic. >> There he is. >> It doesn't look as good there. [laughter]. >> I think that's when he was just getting. into it, honestly. But he had he was he. had Delgate staying with him a while and. Delicate was training him. >> Yeah, I saw him in Kill Cliff just like. blending in with the guys like he wasn't. like standing out. He was just at. Killcliffe training. Yeah, blending in. with the guys. He's a great guy. I've. known him forever. >> I just seen him in either Becky or the. Wrath of Becky. >> Oh yeah, that's not a bad show.

>> He plays a psycho. >> and the girl in it is great. It's like. the girl is like a little psycho girl. >> That's a fun movie. >> It's fun. really fun. I think it's the. first one called Becky and he plays a. villain. He plays uh. >> um the other guy that did it was Joel. McCale. >> Joel Male played the the second psycho. in one of the other movies. I forget was. either the first or the second one. >> I think he's in the second one, The. Wrath of Becky. >> Kevin was awesome. >> These are good. These are good movies. >> Kevin played a good psycho. >> Hey, did you ever see the the Night of. the Seven Kingdoms?

>> No, I haven't seen that yet. I'm telling. you. I'm going to watch it though. because I'm in the middle of finishing. the first season of game the first year. the first all Game of Thrones. >> What? You're doing it over? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, you've seen it already? >> But I haven't seen it since like 2015 or. 11. >> It's [ __ ] amazing. I forgot so much. >> It's [ __ ] awesome. >> This you don't even have to watch any of. the Game of Thrones cuz this takes place. 90 years before the first events of the. Game of Thrones. >> Sir Duncan the Tall and it is so good.

So well done and it's based on the novel. I'm a [ __ ] nerd. I I read the graphic. novel of it by uh George RR Martin. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And I read it back in the day and it was. it's so great. >> and you know how they have like trial um. by combat. >> Yeah. >> In this one, not to give everything. away, but he this guy gets into it and. he has to do a trial by seven. So it's. seven on seven nights. Y. >> and it's like one of those thing. He's a. hedge knight. It's it's [ __ ] really. good. What I like about it is.

>> Did you ever watch the House of the. Dragon? >> Yes. >> It's a lot of cool [ __ ]. >> but there's no one to root for. They're. a bunch of pricks. Who's one's worse. than the other? >> I mean, back in in Game of Thrones, Jon. Snow, we had, you know, um Ned Stark. doing even some guys that are, >> you know, even just great characters and. some guys that are on like the Hound. who's do like the anti-hero. But with. this one, it's just a [ __ ] good solid. dude trying to do the right thing. Y. >> and uh and he and by trying to do the.

right thing, he gets into, you know, into some trouble and it's just it gives. you like it's like. >> like being righteous and have like real. heroics like you know what I mean? Like. some [ __ ] that that's missing nowadays. because it's all about getting a [ __ ]. message in there or making [ __ ] diverse. which I love though. >> [laughter]. >> Stop. You know what's really funny about. that? >> Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones was. like a feminist series.

>> if you if you really think about it. >> I mean, really was. >> but but without any fanfare. Like no. bringing it up. No one paid attention to. it. But the baddest people on that show. were the women. Cersei Lannister was the. baddest [ __ ] in the world. Ara Stark. [ __ ] killed everybody. Santa kept it. together through all that [ __ ] Brianna. of Tar [ __ ] everybody up, including. the hounds. The most feminist. >> Yes. And you got Daenerys, the queen of. dragons, who's the baddest [ __ ]. on earth. You literally can't burn her.

And she's got three dragons. >> It's a feminist series. [laughter] I. didn't even realize it. It is. It's a. completely feminist series, but without. >> It never even crosses. >> Doesn't cross your mind cuz it's so. good. You don't care. It's not It's not. like dumb. It's You have to watch that. Dean. >> No, I Yeah. And House of Dragons is the. same way, >> right? Like there's some of these like. Star Wars movies where it's all women. generals and you're like, "Shut the. [laughter] [ __ ]. up. Shut the [ __ ] up.". >> And all the men are scared of them and.

they all like get out of the room. Like. this is fiction, right? This is. nonsense. >> Even though that's obviously fiction, [clears throat] too. It's way better. >> A lady that has dragons, the hottest. [ __ ] around, she's got dragons. She she. [ __ ] a bunch of killers. >> She brings them into her bed. >> Well, because they do a good job of. making [laughter]. barbarians. >> Well, they do such a good job of making. them flawed that you don't even realize. that they are the baddest [ __ ]. in the world, but they're so but they're. flawed in a way where it's like it makes.

them human. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I mean, look at Cersei Lannister. All of. her kids gone. That [ __ ] survives. She's got a giant demon that watches. over her, right? Like. >> she's in love with her brother. She. [ __ ] her brother and [laughter] her. brother. Remember when she had the Well, I don't spoiler alert when she had that. uh the the priest that tortured her. while she was in the cell when they. finally got her. >> Yeah. >> And she's like, "I'm ready to meet my. maker." She's like, "Oh, you're not. going to die today.". >> And then the. [laughter].

[ __ ]. >> Oh my god. [laughter]. >> Oh, dude. >> That was such a horrifying scene. >> It was such a great show, though. Is. there a better like world universe than. that? No one was safe on that show. You. never knew the the biggest character. could just get [ __ ] merked at like. the next episode. >> Pedro Pascal that played that was his. character. when he got killed by Prince Ador. >> First of all, I never thought they would. kill him. Like that guy's an important.

character. He's bringing all this new. life to the show and all a sudden you. see the mountain get his knuckles into. that guy's eyeballs and crushes. That. was so crazy. Holy [ __ ] That was like. one of the most disturbing murder scenes. you've ever seen in your life. >> And he was doing great. He was taking a. [ __ ] out of him. He got too cocky. >> Worked him over. >> Thought he had him. >> You raped her. You murdered her. You. killed our children. Some [ __ ] like. that. He kept repeating it. >> Yeah. And strutting around with the. mountains on his back. >> They are. [cough]. What a crazy show. Such a good show. One.

of the greatest shows of all time. >> I'm telling you, you got to text me. after you watch The Night of the Seven. Kingdoms cuz it's all out. You could. binge it. to it as soon as we're done. with this. We're on like season seven. now. >> Six episodes. >> and each each episode's like 30 minutes. >> You run through it. >> The House of Dragons never really. dragged me in. >> It did. It was interesting. You know, it. was like I liked it, >> but it wasn't the same thing. >> Definitely not. This I think this the. new one is in my opinion better. I. thought. >> Oh, the C the.

seven kingdoms. >> There's parts in it that just get you. GOING LIKE [ __ ] YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. Hell. yeah. I'm looking forward to I. [clears throat] hope they lengthen it a. little bit. You know what I'm saying? Six half hour episodes. >> But I love the relationship between the. kid and the whole. show, right? One thing I did love about. House of Dragons when they were trying. to figure out who could ride a dragon. >> Oh, that was cool. >> And they brought all those people down. there to test them. [laughter]. >> You have to have some Targaryen blood. And a lot of the Targaryenss [ __ ] a.

lot of regular people. So they were. searching for Targaryen blood, just. taking people out of the pub and just. push them in front of the track. That. [laughter] was crazy. >> She first they asked the uh one of the. king's guard like you know we tracked. you back to whatever and he's like oh. it's a great honor. No, I want to do it. Yeah, buddy. Careful what you wish for, [ __ ]. >> That scene was [laughter] herself. >> That scene was nuts, >> dude. The red the red wedding. [ __ ]. that was the craziest [ __ ] ever. >> You couldn't believe it was happening. while it was happening. Like this can't. >> cuz they were taking everybody. happening. This can't be happening. Did. you hate the ending as much as as.

everybody? >> I did not enjoy it. It felt to me like. they had to tie it up and like nice bow. You know, I would have been almost. better if it was like no country for old. men style ending. >> I think all all shows should be like. that because life continues afterwards, right? >> You don't have to tie it in 12. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Once it got past the books, it took a. hit. >> Yeah. >> Well, that guy's a genius. I mean, the. the world that guy created and the. complexity of all the characters like.

Tyrion Lannister and Tywin Lannister and. >> Oh my god, good. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, man. I mean, that guy was so. [ __ ] good, man. >> They're already doing the the uh Sworn. Sword, which is the second book of uh. Game of Thrones of uh the Dunkin Egg. Tales. >> Oh, nice. >> Awesome. >> That's that's his writing, too. >> That's his Yeah, he did another one. >> He did [clears throat] three books. It. was uh a night of the seven kingdoms. which they just did. They're going to do. a sworn sword and then it's the mystery. night. I don't know anything but I know.

a lot of Game of Thrones [ __ ]. [laughter]. >> Don't ask me about. >> Game of Thrones and Star Wars. You're my. go-to. >> The world's so [ __ ] up. You're way. better off with that stuff in your head. >> That's why I do it, man. It's such an. escape, man. Just to sit home and watch. TV. >> That's all I do, man. Sit home and watch. TV. >> Speaking of Star Wars, I got a a text. out of nowhere from uh from George St. Pierre. He loves it as much as me. Oh. yeah, >> it was just about the new Darth Maul. animated series. >> Oh no, he [laughter] I swear to God. >> And then he gave me back a report. He.

told me he's like, "Oh, it's so far so. good." This. >> I told you my brother My brother's like, "I know Matt's in Star Wars. Tell him. watch the new Darth Maul." You know, Jamie says, >> "It's fun." I I love George. He's He's. the best. >> I have the hardest time convincing. people who he is. It's hilarious. What. do you mean? Like when people when he. comes to the mothership and people that. don't know anything about MMA, they're. like, "What does your friend do?" I go, "That is one of the [laughter] greatest. fighters that ever walked the face of. the earth.". >> You're like, "No, for real." I go, "Yeah, 100% in everybody's list of one.

of the greatest of all time.". >> And he's like, "Hello, nice to meet. you." [laughter]. He just seems so sweet and friendly. >> Man, that's the problem with MMA is that. like you have to convince people about. how bad somebody was. And it wasn't that. long ago. I mean, it wasn't that long. ago that George St. Pierre was the. [ __ ] greatest of all time. >> No, it wasn't that long. >> And now, but the fans are so new that. you they don't get it. They don't go. back and watch it. >> They had to watch like go back and watch. the John Fitch fight. >> Oh man, >> prime GSP. Prime. He was terrifying.

>> Incredible gas tank. Great flow between. grappling and striking. You very. creative. >> He put that [ __ ] together the best. That's why he had such success taking. everybody down. Like his he would set it. up his level change and he always he ran. through every takedown. It was never. he was going to run you across the cage. >> George was phenomenal. And then I think. Farasah Hobby was a big part of that. too. Farasah Hab is a bad [ __ ]. >> Yeah, he's smart. >> You ever watch his YouTube breakdowns of. >> sometimes? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's he's. incredible. >> Very astute. He's so knowledgeable of.

the game of every aspect of it. You. know, >> his brother is doing well. >> Yeah. His brother's fighting at the. White House. >> He's fighting Shaun Ali and I think. people are sleeping on him. >> Well, listen, he keeps winning. >> Yeah, >> he keeps [ __ ] winning. the the one. fight that he had that was kind of a. little controversial was Aldo. Remember. Aldo almost had. >> I don't Yeah, for sure. I'm not sure he. won that fight because I think they're. not being generous enough with the 108s. in the 107s.

>> They don't do it enough. >> Not enough. There's When a guy just. tunes you up for like a minute and a. half of the round and you almost go. unconscious, you know, like that that. means a lot. I hate the fact that they. don't use it enough all because like. Dana was like, "Oh, I don't like it.". >> And now the judges are just like, "No, we can't do it because. >> listen, the scoring system sucks because. we stole it from boxing. It's not it. doesn't have enough points. >> for sure. >> It should be like a you should get like. a certain amount of points for different. things, but it would be really hard to.

calculate. >> because it would be have to be. subjective. Like if Pereira hits you, it's way harder than if someone's like, you know, Paul Craig, like no. disrespect, but you know what I'm. saying, the consequences are very. different. So if he hits you with a left. hook, it's different than if Pereira. hits you with a left hook. So that's. subjective. But in terms of like what. happens in the fight, you should be. counting in submission attempts. You. should be counting in takedown attempts, like who was more aggressive, who is. more defensive, who who's implemented.

their STR. You should have like a 100. points to work with. >> Absolutely. cuz he got 10 points. Why. are we only using two of them? It's nine. and a 10. Why? >> It don't make any [clears throat] sense. cuz there's 10 nine rounds that are like. uh could be anybody. And there's 10 N. rounds where he dominated. >> That's well see like UFC BJJ uses that. and it works better for that because. they're very liberal with the 108s and. 107s. They use it a lot. They're like if. it's if it's close it's a 109. If it's. one-sided it's automatically a 108. >> So they use more sense.

>> That does make more sense. But even in. BJJ, I would say you'd need more points. You need like it's like the difference. between a 7030 round where a guy's. dominating you 70% of the time and a. 5149 round is [ __ ] huge. >> It's huge and it doesn't reflect it in. the scorecards at all. So like you could. win a 109 round in the first round where. it's like you're barely ahead like maybe. I'll give it to you and then the second. round that dude [ __ ] you up and he gets. a 109 round cuz you didn't go down.

>> Yeah. But he's headkicking you and. you're blocking it. You're getting. teepped. Your legs are getting kicked. all the time. It's still a 10- nine. round. That's some That's nuts. No, >> just because you didn't go unconscious, just cuz you didn't get knocked down. >> I think it's my ADD's kicking in. But. we're talking about the close calls, close scoring. I thought Aljo. >> I thought he should have got that nod. against [ __ ]. >> I thought so too. I thought I didn't. think there was. >> the guy got on one reversal at the end. like a minute 30 left and Aljo was.

winning that whole first round. >> Aljo is a nightmare for a grappling. expert. >> He could be undefeated at 140. >> He's a nightmare because if your whole. thing is grappling with people and you. got to grapple with Aljo, you got. problems. >> That dude gets your back. He's got. >> he's got. >> I mean him and 10 108 round like he was. just on his back dominated round and. they don't and no how is that not a 108. round? He's fighting Yousef uh Salon, I. said. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yousef's allowed. And that's. on the 25th of April. But I mean, but I.

think, you know, if it hits the ground, I think there's levels to this. >> Yeah. >> Did Did Aljo over Yan in the second. fight, was that like the best anybody's. ever done with Yan? >> Yeah. No doubt. >> His control is just so good when it hits. the floor. That's the difference between. him and Morav. Morav keep getting you. down and up, down, up. Aljo hits the. floor. >> Yeah. You're not even He just needs back. exposure. He's one of those some guys. they can't jump up on the back. It's not. good for them. They're going to get. tired, dude. All day long he'll just go. up there, lock that [ __ ] on, and. [laughter].

if he doesn't get you, that's his round. Like he's the Sanhagen fight was what a. masterpiece. Masterpiece. >> His grappling is so so good. >> Yeah, he doesn't get proper credit. >> No, his back takes some of the best in. the in the sport, period. >> Man, they're not a big fan of his. They. don't push I I feel SUCH A [laughter]. NICE GUY. >> I KNOW. He does everything right. I. think it's the one fight with the neck. that was I think that was turned. everybody against him. >> Those people are wrong. But look what. happened was [ __ ] up. Look what.

happened in the seconded. >> I mean he should have validated the. entire thing by whooping his ass in the. second fight. >> But they had already decided they hate. him stuck on it. They already he had to. get his [ __ ] disc replaced. It was. real. It was a real [ __ ] injury. >> He should be he could be un he could be. a two-time champ a double division. champ. I mean, he's in my mind, he's. undefeated at 145. Look what he did to. Calvin Kedar, which was Calvin Kater is. a beast. But. >> it was, if you didn't know Calvin Kater, if that's your first fight seeing him, you' be like, "Oh, that guy doesn't. belong here," which he obviously does.

He's a beast. >> But Ala was masterful. >> He know what it is. He's good at not. getting hit. So it's like he's not. giving you that back and forth cuz and. and Longo says you've seen 20% of what. he could do stand up and standing up. like I'd ask him something with his He's. like he could put his foot wherever he. wants it like about a kick or something. He's he's just really really talented. man. I hope he gets his shot if he takes. out uh you know uh Yousef. I hope he. they give him a shot again cuz I think. he could be a two-time champ.

>> He Well, listen, he's still a bad. [ __ ] like he's [clears throat]. he's a nightmare for everybody, >> especially if he gets a hold of you. But. I mean, >> people look at the one fight losses. They look at the Shawn Ali fight. Like. Shawn caught him perfect. That's just. how. >> And you know, he his head wasn't really. in that cuz he didn't even want to be. there. >> Nope. >> Why didn't he want to be there? >> He fight They made him fight that fight. He didn't want to fight. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. They they did like a whole. documentary on it where it was like they. they they kind of twisted his arm to.

like you got to do this and they were. >> injured. I think he was injured. >> There was a quick turnaround. It was too. quick a turnaround. He's the champ. He. didn't feel he should be forced into, >> you know, >> but he thought the number he thought. they he thought the pay-per-view numbers. was going to make up for it. He thought. he's going to get all this money from it. because he was like, "All right, I'll do. it. Sean Ali is going to bring in the. numbers." Then he said when it was over, he saw the numbers. He was like, "If I. knew the numbers was going to be like. this, I don't think I'd have did it.". >> Yeah. Really? >> Yeah. >> So, it didn't do well.

>> It didn't do as well as he thought he. was going to do based on Shawn Ali's. presence. >> Listen, man. It It takes a lot to get. people to pay for something today. There's too much money to steal it. >> This Paramount thing is genius in that. regard is that all you have to do is. have that app, which a lot of people. have already anyway. >> Yeah, >> that's genius. But to make people pay. every time to to watch fights, like. there's so much to watch today. >> Well, that Well, that was the one thing. that my people at ESPN told me. They was.

like, "It's a big difference between. being popular and then having people pay. to watch you fight.". >> Yeah. >> Like you can be popular, but ain't. nobody paying you paying you to fight. >> So, it's a big difference. >> It's a giant difference. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's a giant difference. >> I like that it's on Paramount as a fan, though. >> Save save you a ton of money. I pay I. used to pay for every one of them. This. Netflix thing is nice, too. It's good to. see that there's like someone who's. willing to throw a lot of money at MMA. in another large arena, you know, like. Netflix. >> What do you do, guys? Cheetah vers.

Ronda. >> I I think round one submission Ronda. >> Yeah. >> Unless she wants to try to just stand up. with her, which I doubt. I hope not. I. don't know what Gan has been doing, you. know. I don't know how long she went. without MMA training at all. You know, >> she was recently a little heavy. I can. say that. She'll be great now. >> Does she look great now? >> Look, she got in great shape. >> She got in great shape. >> She's still like 43 years old. >> No, but the question is like what was.

she doing in those? Was she still. training some? That would be my real. question because if you just put it all. down and you walk away for 17 years, I. got to go. I mean, but with the with the weight. loss, with the weight gain that she had, there was no way she was training or. doing anything. That's what I'm saying. Like, she's back in shape and she. obviously is busting her ass to do that. But how long, like you're saying, was. she down. >> and she has to develop a a a grappling. defense to one of the best female.

grapplers ever. No, Ronda's leg. Her. only hope is to keep it on the street. >> Guard on her and I sweep. She would pull. guard and sweep her or arm lock her. Her. arm locks her. Her arm locks are. amazing. Her arm locks are amazing. >> They're preposterous, >> you know. I think there's too many. >> dude or chick. Her arm bars. >> Remember that cat zingo fight? Cat. charged at her. Cat threw her. That was. the craziest. >> Got her an arm bar like instantaneous. Stupid strategy that was. [laughter]. >> Yeah, she blanked out on that one. >> So crazy. That was such a sick. transition, too. No, but I saw a video.

of Gina hitting pads with John Wood that. was kind of recent and it did not look. good. >> How recent was it doing? >> I don't know. I don't know. But it. didn't look good. I was just like, >> it's hard to tell. >> I hope it's I hope this is older. >> She's a big girl. Maybe she can stop her. from taking her down or something. >> But also, it's also what were they. doing? Were they just working on slow. motion [ __ ] Were they just trying to. get a movement or were they getting in a. hard mitt workout? You know what I'm. saying? I mean, either way, like just. like mechanically it didn't look great. >> mechanically. So, I mean, but it could.

have been it's like one of them things. where like this could be like her her. comeback session and she's just trying. to get warmed up. But, who knows? I. mean, you know, who knows? Maybe she's. Who knows? You just never know. I hope. so. Yeah. I hope it's better than that. Round one submission. >> I mean, probably probably right. >> I mean, come on. I bet you know, if you. had Poly Market, you can make some money. on that, right? >> [laughter]. >> just like there's going to be a lot of. bets on that. It's uh it's it's exciting. though that that Netflix is doing it. That's what I like. I like that there's.

another place people can go. >> It'll raise. >> But how sustainable is this though? That's my biggest question. >> Whoever's putting the money up for this. is going to lose their ass. I think you. think they're going to make that money. back, >> right? But here's the thing. It's. Netflix, >> right? So Netflix has an insane amount. of money and they keep raking it in. Like every month people are paying. whatever they're paying. It's as high as. like what 19 bucks for ad free. What is. it? How much is a Netflix account now? >> I want to say it's higher. >> I think it just went up, right? Yeah.

>> So going all that money is just coming. in every month. They just got to give. people exciting things to want to watch. and they'll keep making more money. because more people use Netflix. Like it. would seem like they're going to lose. their ass, but they're not. >> because they have a completely different. business model. Obviously I'm not a. businessman. $8.99 to 26.99 per month. I'm a ter I'm in fact I'm a terrible. businessman. But I would imagine you'll. just make money by giving people awesome. [ __ ] so they keep tuning into Netflix. So in that sense they're not going to. lose any money because there's a lot of.

MMA fans that probably subscribe to. Netflix just so they can watch that. fight, >> right? >> So who's on the card now? It's like. Felipe Lind versus Inanu. >> Yeah. Mike Perry versus Nate Diaz, >> right? >> Oh, and Robelis to Spain. >> Yeah. Yeah. And uh Junior Dos Santos. >> That one. That one is like. >> Who's it? >> Roella Desp. >> That tall karate combat dude. >> He's a taekwond do black belt from Cuba. >> Wait, was Junior? >> Yeah. How old's Junior?

>> He's 50 [clears throat] now. >> Is he 50? >> No, [laughter] he's close. But he's in. good shape. I actually did a We spoke at. a high school a couple of months ago. Yeah. >> I'm glad to hear that. >> I mean, at least these guys get an. outlet to make some extra money. >> Yeah, man. And who doesn't. Adriana Moray is a you know that's a. Mogay is probably going to school him. but I mean it's they got some they're. giving guys some opportunity so you got. to like this. >> Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. It'll be a. big show. A lot of people will tune in. Diaz and Perry's going to be [ __ ].

bananas. That'll be really fun to watch. >> Yeah, that's I mean that'll be worth the. price of admission. Imagine if that was. 10 years ago. That fight would be. >> I'm looking [laughter] at this. It's. like if the GLA. went to [ __ ] it came came true. [ __ ] remember that grandpa [laughter]. league that was not everybody. >> It just stole all their talent, >> bro. Diaz versus Perry. Guaranteed dog. fight. >> Just a guaranteed dog fight. That will. not be. >> Who do you think wins? >> I think the jiu-jitsu is going to be too.

much. I think. >> I kind of think that too. I kind of. think Nate might just drag him deeper, right? >> I think we're going to see. You know, we're going to see. >> Oh, it's five rounds. Five rounds. >> That's crazy. Five rounds is crazy. I. wonder why they agreed on that. >> Interesting. >> Why do you think they agreed? >> I didn't realize that. >> Is the Gina fight five rounds or is it. three rounds? >> Three. When they first announced it said. five by five for everything, but they've. changed a bit. >> So, it says five. >> Yeah, just for those two though. This. one does not. >> And it also says these are the main.

event. >> I mean, I can't imagine. five rounds. >> Well, actually, it does. There it does. It says it real. It's hard to see it. >> Yeah. 5x5 professional. Yeah. Okay, >> bro. Loren Larkin back in the day. >> I remember he fought Neil Magny. Was. hitting him with oblique kicks to the. chest and I was like, I do not think. I've ever seen anybody throw it that. way. >> You ever see that fight? >> No, I don't remember that fight. >> He tuned Neil Magny up and Loren Larkin. was a bad [ __ ]. >> I do remember that. Like he had he had a. good little run. He was so his striking.

was elite. Yeah. >> And he would he when he fought Neil. Magny, he you know Neil Magny's a tough. [ __ ] dude, man. Durable. Incredible. discipline and endurance. Like that. dude's never out of shape. >> And he was just getting too Look at. this. >> I mean, he's throwing an oblique kick to. the ribs. That one there, he just hit. his arm and knocked him down with it. But earlier before that, he caught him. on the rib cage with it. Look at that. Look at that, bro. That's crazy. >> He gave him a spot. Damn. >> That's the second look at it. But right.

here, you're seeing him. He's blasting. him with this. >> kick that nobody throws like that. That's a crazy position to put your hips. in. >> That is crazy, >> bro. He's He was sharp. >> How did this one end? >> He stopped him. >> Oh, did he? >> Yeah. >> Oh [ __ ]. >> Yeah. Loren was all over him, man. It. was a like one of the prime performances. that I've seen of him fight. >> Yeah, he had a good little run. He had a. great a great run but in during that run. and this was like he came from Bellator.

right. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And when he came over from. Bellator it's like he was still like red. hot like red hot. >> Some Yeah. Two guys that were in. Bellator which is uh Pit Ball and Aaron. Pico. >> They're getting ready to fight in this. weekend. >> How much time do you think a guy like. Pico is supposed to take off after. Lrone? >> We we were just talking about that cuz I. love his offense man. And he's a little. raging bull. >> animal. >> and strong powerful. >> He just got caught. And he got caught. perfect. I mean, it was just perfect.

That spinning elbow. >> I think he got stopped more than Did he. get stopped more than once with a bad. knockout like that? >> Yeah. Best fight ever. >> You don't want to go through your. >> The kid from um Kill Cliff. >> Uh Adam Bur. >> Adam Burks. >> Yeah, he got him with a flying knee. >> With a flying knee. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Damn, dude. You don't want too many of. those. >> That's right. >> But those put him out, man. Like you. just see him just go boop. >> Yeah. That Macy Barber won the other. day. >> Oh, dude, that was. >> one of the greatest finishes in women's. MMA history. >> Oh, no doubt. I wanted to reach out to.

Macy cuz I felt so bad. I wanted to. reach out to the doctor and say, "What. [laughter] the [ __ ] are you think?" He's. just over like. a [ __ ] [laughter]. >> So crazy. >> Yeah. He's like I'm LIKE, "GET SOME. SMELL." I'M LIKE, "Somebody the. cameraman please get off this or. somebody talk to the doctor cuz I don't. know what the fuck." He was just over. like, "Man, this is [ __ ] up. >> [laughter]. >> I don't think he knew exactly what was. going on. He probably has no experience. in combat sports, right? He didn't. realize that she got knocked out and. while she was out cold, she got.

strangled. >> She transitioned so fast. >> Like, she's out there. She's out cold. already and then she gets strangled. Like, that's never happened before. >> What's crazy is she was. >> Look at the way he kind of still. reacting and then when they put her on. her back, she just it was. >> she went limp as she was trying to sit. up. She went limp. You see right there? like she was trying to get up and then. as the guy has his arm around her, she. goes limp, >> dude. >> See, there's like there's uh sea level. Kane and then there's Southpaw Alexa.

When she fights Southpaw, man, she is. dangerous. >> Then this confused doctor, [laughter]. >> right? Never seen this before. >> Hey, >> crazy. >> Look at him. >> Right. He's like. >> crazy is just Well, she's kind of coming. too there. I think she's blinking. >> But that was just. >> Holy [ __ ]. >> Why? And the speed that she took her. back. Left hand boop back choke. Amazing. One shot while she was out. Still cracked her again. Got her back. and choked her all like a lightning. bolt.

>> That was super. >> But that's the same combination she hit. Valentina with when she finished her. >> I feel like five minutes with us sitting. there. >> Left hand. Boom. Took her back. Took her. a while. It took her longer. But look at. this. >> So she's in trouble. Bam. Right there. Out cold and then strangled. >> I don't think that combination of out. cold and then strangled has ever. happened before. >> No, >> cuz I mean she seen Watch this punch. here. That's out cold, right? And then. boom.

>> Sick. Now that's crazy. >> Crazy. >> Wow. >> She's tough, man. >> Fall backwards in front of you after the. knockdown, you know. >> Well, so here's the thing. She gets up. and when she gets up I think she faints. Like I think she tries to get up. >> and then he. Mike puts his arm around her and she's. out. >> I think she fainted. >> That's just scary. >> That's scary. And she also had had some. problems before with seizures.

>> Yeah. >> She had to pull out of that fight with. uh Aaron Blanchfield. Seizure in the. locker room, right? >> So they allow they still allow her to. fight even though she's had seizures. That's pretty crazy. Well, it depends on. what's causing the seizures, right? If. they know it's a medication that she was. on to get her off the medication. Like, there's I don't know what causes. seizures. >> Well, that shit's not going to help the. seizures. >> But it certainly wouldn't make me. enthusiastic about fighting, right? It. would have to [ __ ] with your motivation. if you're already having seizures. >> I wouldn't want to do it. I.

>> Now, now after that, >> I wouldn't want to do it. >> Anytime you fight, that's a possibility. Y. >> and he I mean look at a guy who never. once looked. >> took anything remotely like that like um. Camaro man. >> and even in a fight where he's just. doing so great and then that's the. closest thing I seen to that which is. when he got stopped with that head kick. >> Yeah. >> And you know that's a possibility. anytime you make that walk. >> That's why you got that [ __ ] little. feeling in your. you know before you walk out there. The.

Camaro one was nuts too because John. Anick was just saying because DC was. like a lot of people would quit in this. situation and John Anick said something. along the lines of but that is not the. cloth from which. >> I know and then as soon I mean that was. like the most perfect timing ever. like. a movie like it was if you saw that in a. movie like shut up. >> cuz I had [laughter] just I had just. came in and was like yeah I think he's. broke. >> and then DC was saying it and then John. intervened with he's not cut from that.

cloth and boom head kick. It was nuts. >> What is that new Russell Crow's doing a. new MMA movie? >> Is that Is that going to be Is that. supposed to be the UFC? >> No, I think 1FC. Yeah. They did it with. >> Yeah. I wonder if that's going to be. >> Yeah. But I mean like the who's the. fighter is like my age. I'm like yo. what's going on here? >> Maybe. >> coming back. Like Randy Couture won the. title in his 40s, you know. >> Yeah, man. >> One has some wild striking fights, man. Some of the absolute best standup fights.

in the world are happening on one. I. watch it all the time. >> I never know when that shit's on. When. is that on? Where are you watching? >> There's this [ __ ] cat out of. Dagistan. Do you guys know who I'm. talking about? Asodoula Imangazalv. Bro, this dude is uh I think he's 135. lbs. I think that's what he fights at. And he's like 6'1 and just a laser beam. striker. Just [ __ ] people up. Like. literally might be the best striker in. the world. >> Is it just kickboxing? >> Yeah. And he's getting in there with.

Muay Thai. He's getting in there with. world Muay Thai champions and KOing. them. Like threetime world Lupini Muay. Thai champions. >> Damn. >> Lupini stadium guys. This guy is a. [ __ ] straight killer, dude. And he's. from Dagistan and he can wrestle. >> Damn. >> You gotta Let's see if you can find like. a highlight reel of his KOs because this. is just like Get on YouTube and find. >> shot was nasty. >> This I watch this cat every time he. fights. I just can't. He's so [ __ ]. accurate and he's so slick.

>> How old is he? >> He's 22. >> Oh, damn. >> Yeah, man. I'm telling you, this. 22year-old cat from Dagistan might be. the best striker on earth right now. This dude is so impressive. And I'm. telling you, he's doing this to dudes. who are world champions. >> Oh, >> he's taking out world champion. kickboxers, world champion Muay Thai. fighters. They're putting him in there. with these [ __ ] assassins. And he. he's making them all go night night. >> Oh, damn. >> Oh, >> bro, you got to see it in real speed.

like like you see his real movements. It's so impressive. >> Is he withhabib and emo? I don't know. where he's trained in, but he's from. Dagistan, >> bro. >> He looks like Zabit. >> Yes. Like a like a little bit more. robust Zabit. >> Robust, >> but it's like it's different. Like Zabit. had more of a you know, he had an. incredible style, but it was almost like. more taekwond do-ish. This guy's pure. Muay Thai, but he just [ __ ] people up, man. >> Accurate, too. >> Oh, he's spin spinning heel kicks,

everything. Knee the body. But it's it's. the combinations, the way he's throwing. them. He just finds these openings on. people with this precision that you're. like, "Motherfucker, man.". >> He keeps the pressure on. >> He keeps the pressure on, too. >> He just flatlined folks. >> one after another, flatlining people, >> man, >> bro. He's very [ __ ] impressive. And. again, very impressive against world. championship caliber Muay Thai fighters. >> These are not scrubs that he's fight. Damn. And one's putting these fights on. all the time. And I was trying to tell.

Dana this. I was like, if you guys had. like UFC striking, do you know how. [ __ ] exciting that would be if just. Muay Thai with MMA gloves on? >> Well, they should do that. They do the. BJ now 100%. They're missing out on a. giant opportunity because how many. people boo when a fight goes to the. ground. Boo. >> These guys never go to the ground, >> right? >> It's just all. >> And kickboxing is so much more brutal. than than boxing. >> Way more brutal. >> It just didn't get a fair shake in. America. >> It's not that it's not exciting. It's.

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features and network management details. >> I could People [ __ ] about Commot. I. could watch him do that to Draus all day. long. I don't give a [ __ ] I That's. masterful. >> Masterful. >> Get him off you. People like, "Oh, that's a shame." And he doesn't take. chances. Dude, get He's He's not like. He's not trying to beat the [ __ ] out of. him. He's getting him tied up and he's. >> beating him up and he's just he's. working him over. I mean, what do you. want him to stand up in the in a. crucifix? Like, what are you talking. about here? Yeah. I mean, that's Drius'. problem. Like, Drius need to get them. Yeah. >> Yeah. 100%. And I don't I don't believe.

in standups at all. Period. >> I think the only time you should stand. up is someone fouls. >> If someone does a foul and then you have. to stand it up, take a point away from. them, maybe then you stand them up. >> Yeah. Like you can't you shouldn't. reward a guy for having like [ __ ]. defense. >> If the dude on the bottom is the one. that failed, put them back where they. were. Don't reward. [laughter]. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. Definitely. But other than that, why are you letting. people stand up? >> Why? Guy had to work so hard to get him. to the ground. Maybe he's taking a break. for a couple seconds to catch his.

breath. >> Yeah. >> You know, like what the [ __ ] do you. want? >> Like figure out how to get up. >> Yeah. >> Bottom people just have to be better. >> Also, you know what how to fix that? Here's how you fix that. Knees to the. head to a downed opponent. >> Absolutely. Absolutely. And then it's. like it's all out of the wrestlers then. wrestlers become super [ __ ]. dangerous. >> Man, Mark Coleman won the Grand Prix. with that [ __ ] Didn't you see the. smashing machine? Did you like the. Smashing Machine? >> I did. I did. It was good. >> I did. I thought The Rock was amazing. I. thought like his acting like like you. didn't think it was The Rock,

>> you know? >> I haven't seen it yet. >> You [clears throat] thought it was Mark. Kerr? Like he even got a forehead thing. like he got like rubber put on his. forehead or whatever the [ __ ] like. >> Yeah. Make him more Neanderthal. >> A little chromagnetic. [laughter]. >> Give a little Frankenstein for almost. scene by scene. It was almost like the. same pretty much the same exact thing as. the documentary. >> It was really good. the documentary. It's it takes it's like the same shots, the same story. So, if you seen the. documentary, which was great. Yeah, same. >> Kerr was a great guest. I had him in the.

podcast. He was fun. It was really he. was a really cool guest, you know. >> No kidding. >> Yeah, he was really fun and just a real. intelligent like easy to talk to. >> Like, where does he live now? Like. that's like Arizona, >> bro. I saw him in early UFC's when I was. a backstage interviewer. He submitted. Dan Bobish with his chin to his eye. >> I remember that. I remember that too. >> That was crazy. >> I remember when he came on the scene. Well, the UFC scene when it with the old. Ranger Scott needed a face.

>> I remember Rip Rules is what we were. about to find out. [laughter]. >> Morty Heinenstein or something like. that. The crowd. >> I don't know, man. My favorite Mark Kerr. fight was against Fabio Gel down in. Brazil. That was crazy. >> That's where he got his name. >> Yeah, man. That's that's my [ __ ]. >> man. I. >> I was a big Fabio fan and like I mean if. you can't have respect for that guy. after that beating he took and he never. never [ __ ] thought about quitting. >> Crazy. >> Yeah. Heads and everything. >> Who said yes to that? [laughter].

>> Yeah. Right. >> Let me put you guys aside. Explain. physics. >> And now I need to introduce you to. steroids. [laughter] That was to combine. physics and steroids and like no you're. not fighting Mark Ker. Right. If. [laughter] you look at the time, that's. when jiu-jitsu still had that mystique. about it though. True. You know, back. when they weren't losing, >> but that kind of killed, but like that's. when like the beginning of the end of. like the guard started for MMA. It was. like that cuz like those big wrestlers. was just like, "Oh, you mean all I got. to do is block his hips and head?".

Right? >> There was Do you remember when Mario. Sperry fought Igor Zenovia? >> Oh, yeah. >> So, Mario Sperry's like one of the first. jiu-jitsu black belts to lose in MMA. >> That's right. Yes, >> we all thought jiu-jitsu blackwells were. invincible, right? And Mario Sperry was. elite. He was a really good black belt. >> And so he fought Zenov and Zenovia. stopped him. >> I remember that. Yeah. >> And Mario was doing everything right, mounting him correctly, doing but then. he would just do one of those weird like. super big bridges and get and then his.

because he had endurance and he was able. to just withstand his attack. He. >> he ended up cutting him or something. towards the end. Yeah. >> Yeah. It was a big cut. They stopped him. from a cut, right? Speaking of old. school guys, guess who was at the UFC. last week? Marillo Booster. >> YES, HE WAS he was Jose tapped twice in. the world title defense made him tapped. twice. >> Yeah, >> he also fought 45 bit. He fought Tom. Ericson. Tom Eric 45. Oh yeah. I thought. I thought beat uh Chuck Liddell too.

honestly in that fight. >> He might have. Yeah. >> Some of the options. >> He was he was a bad [ __ ] He was. really good boxing and insane jiu-jitsu. but really good boxing. one of the first. guys from like that Carlson Gracie team. along with. >> good wrestler too like he had good. takedowns you know for a jiu-jitsu guy. too. >> but like that's my point he's at the UFC. just cornering Jose Delano and like no. one knows who he is and I'm like yo I. need to give a lesson on this guy like. he's one of my favorite fighters of all. time but no one knows who he is. >> that's crazy he's a legend but you know.

there's so many people now it's like. time just goes on. >> what a bunch of killers Carlson had back. in the Hey man, what a dude. His school. in 96 when all that was going down when. right before Vtor got into labor. Carlo Berto. >> Yeah there Sergio Cohen. He had a bunch. of beasts man. And they would we would. watch them all train together. Mario. Sperry was telling us a story about uh.

how he when he was just starting out in. jiu-jitsu, he uh made his girlfriend sit. there and he just put her in triangle. after triangle after triangle. She. [laughter] she kept complaining. that's hysterical. >> watching TV just practicing triangles on. his girlfriend. [laughter]. that she. >> we were lucky to we were talking last. night about how fortunate we were to. come up when we did you know and like. even back at at Henzo's and you had. Henzo you had Hyen coming through you. had Hal coming through you had Matt you. had Ricardo you had Shawn Alvarez like.

we just had a ton of killers you know. and back then. >> it was I always joke about the tapout. [ __ ] but. >> if you saw somebody in an airport in the. 90s with a tapout shirt on you were like. where you know where you train. >> [laughter]. >> Then now then it went to like JC [ __ ]. pennies which is cool cuz it was except. forever 21. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> But it was pretty wild. >> I had [snorts] some tap out charts. Everybody did. >> Right. >> Those guys were fun. >> Yeah, definitely.

>> It was a weird time that that time of. MMA. If you go back to like like even. when like you and I first met, it was. like when what year was that? >> 2001 we met. >> Crazy. That's crazy. cuz you weren't a. commentator yet, but but I fought Kelly. Delante and you gave me a nice shout. out. We need more of that jungle. jiu-jitsu like Matt Sarah when you buy. >> AND I'M LIKE, "OH, they show you up.". >> Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, that that was. that was 2001 cuz I mailed you a shirt. >> to thank you and then you called the. academy and I'm like, "Oh, what's up?".

>> That was funny, man. >> It's crazy. >> But jiu-jitsu was so physical then. Like. it was a physical thing. Now it's so. intellectual and like these nerds think. they own it. >> Autistic kids got jiu-jitsu [laughter]. and now they think and now they think. they own it and it's like yo what what. are you talking about? >> They start talking about technique. It's. like they're talking chess moves. >> Yeah. You don't know the names. And he's. like you don't know that. It's like dude. I know that I like what what's the. [laughter] um what when you're going for. the uh they call it the kg guard. I'm.

like [ __ ] man I've been doing that since. the 90s man. >> At first I'm like what's the you don't. know the kg guard? I'm like then they. show it. I go, "Well, yeah. I Yeah, I. just never called it the [ __ ] K, [laughter] you know, >> but it's funny you bring up Marilla. Bamante. We talked about Fabio Gajelle. back then, and I know jiu-jitsu evolved, but if you take those guys, you put them. in the Abu Dhabi submission uh uh. tournament, you put them in the BJJ, IBJJF, and you put them in an MMA fight, their jiu-jitsu is the same. It carries. over to all. >> and and they may not win but they're.

competitive and they have their own. right. >> have it across the board where. >> somebody should look to just used to. scissoring or just used to legs. >> you know what I mean that that that. can't transfer over. >> Here's what [ __ ] my head up. If you gun. to my head said to me who do you think. has the best jiujitsu in MMA right now? my head would go. Charles Oliver. >> I was getting ready.

my first. >> but Islam Makachev finished him on the. ground. So how can I say that right? So. it [ __ ] my head up because I'm like if. you think about like a elite expressions. of jiu-jitsu on the ground like one of. the most dangerous guys off his back. Olivera Oliver is so dangerous. everywhere. If he gets on top of you. you're [ __ ] I mean, it was just that. Max Holloway's defense is so tight and. he's so tough that he didn't get. finished, right? A lot of dudes would. have been out here in that first round. >> How crazy it was that he was able to. just manhandle him and take him down. I. mean, Max, nobody took Max down like.

that. >> He manhandled him. It was bananas. But I. think Max is a guy that is like he can. fight at 45. I think it was really hard. when he went up to 55 and then went down. to 45. But at 45 in his prime, oh [ __ ]. >> it was a perfect weight class for him. >> When Oliver was fighting at 45, he was. killing himself. Like he fought like he. just was fatigued easier. >> But then when he went up to 55, then he. became Charles Olivera. You know, it was. really all at 55 where he made his mark. >> He tried that [ __ ] though with Ilia. He.

did try to take him down and he tried. >> He's on another level. >> He's on another level. super wellrounded. and people haven't really even seen that. yet. >> He's on a level where I can't wait for. his next fights. Like when when he's. fighting, I'm like, what is he going to. do now? >> Yeah. >> Like how what is because I I think he's. getting better. >> I think it's not just I think the dude. is like their approach to it. There's a. documentary on YouTube with the they're. like talking about how they break down. all their fight camps and what they're.

doing and the different stuff that they. train in. Like these dudes are on. another level. I mean, when you think. about like if a fight between like Ilia. and Islam were to happen, like think. about like the magnitude of that of like. not only just like star power, but just. in terms of skill. >> Like breaking that down in terms of. skill. >> Oh my god. >> Like two of the best skilled fighters of. all time. >> Of all time. >> Yeah, >> that would be an insane fight. And I I. just really would like it if it happened. to be at 55. Like Iliot 170 is. >> 55 would be better.

>> because Islam at 170 is probably walking. around a buck 96. >> [ __ ] jacked. >> I think uh Armen should be spoken about. too. Look how he% he had a a pretty good. fight with uh. >> Islam back when he how many years ago. when he was like 21. I mean he was I. mean scrambled. Although I do have to. say if uh the scoring was correct I. think. >> I think Olivivera would have beat him in. that fight cuz Olivivera threatened him. with submissions. >> that is true.

>> a couple times. A couple times like that. to me is more valuable than holding a. guy down. >> Did Arman threaten he had an arm choke. with him? Well, no. >> He was kind of on the run but he was. kind of on the run more often than we. remember. >> Like Armen was. >> Yeah. In terms of like inside the guard. of Oliver. Yeah. like he was kind of, you know, he was on the run. >> It's dangerous in there, man. It's not. like everybody else's. Like there's only. a few guys like him and. >> you know, Paul Craig, bro, Paul Craig. could latch on a [ __ ] triangle. Like.

that guy has beaten world champions. You. think about it, he beat Jamal, broke his. arm. >> Jamal, he beat uh. >> Uncle Stopped him with like one second. to go in the third round with a. triangle. >> Yeah, >> he might have one of the best tri What. was that one dude from back in the day. that won all his fights by triangle? Dustin. Uh, >> no. English guy. >> Yeah. Um, I know exactly who you're. talking about. >> Oh my god, it's gonna drive me nuts. >> Little skinny English guy. He like was. all triangles, like 11 triangles in a. row. He had this one move and if he can.

get you to the ground and latch his legs. around you, you were [ __ ] Paul ass. Paul. >> Shout out to Paul Sass. >> Yeah, he was a beast. He get you in that. triangle, you're [ __ ]. >> And the Fisio Redoom is another one, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean he was that he triangled. Fedor when Fedor was Fedor. >> I always tell people if you want to look. at the one of alltime greats in. heavyweight. Don't look at all losses. and [ __ ] Stop right here in the prime. Who has tapped out more legends than.

Fabricio Verdoom? >> Minotauro [snorts] Fedor. I mean that is. crazy just those two. Cain Velasquez, right? >> That's true. >> He's tapped out all the legends. >> True. >> And they weren't past their prime. either. Fedor was securely in his. prime%. >> I remember watching that live thinking, "Oh my god, >> he ran right into it. He ran right into. that jump into it.". >> Brilliant. He his jiu-jitsu was like. scary off his back. >> Yeah. Fedor had no respect for the. guard. Just,

>> you know, was trying to take his head. off and just fed it to him. You can't do. that with a guy. >> Not a guy like that. That's a different. level. >> And plus, he hit Kobe in the head with a. boomerang. >> Remember that? [laughter]. There's nothing wrong with that. Give. you some points for that as well. >> That was my favorite video of all time. cuz he hit him with the boomerang and. then the bag and Kobe was reaching out. for the bag. [laughter]. >> Yeah, you got to give him some points. for that, too. >> Out of all the people that I thought I. was definitely going to see on the White. House lawn. It was going to be a Kobe. Coington fight. >> I was like, how is he how did you not.

have a Kobe Coington fight at the White. House, >> man? I don't know. >> He's like super supportive of Trump. Wears Trump hats everywhere. >> and he's not a fight. >> They didn't get him hooked up. They. didn't hook him up. >> I don't know. >> How did that not happen? Bo Nickel. wanted to fight him. >> Yeah, but that's a different weight. class. Bo Nickel's a big dude. He's. >> He's a 85. >> Yeah, >> that's a You know, Kobe's not a big 70. >> Is he a great size for. >> Yeah. >> No, I don't match him. >> Yeah, that's going to be interesting.

>> Yeah, I think Chris a little big for him. for. >> I think that should go well for. >> Who is Wee fighting next? >> Brady. Sean Brady. Sean Brady. Is that. in Miami? No, that's. >> No, that's in uh in Jersey, right? Yeah, that's right. >> I'll be on Philly next week with Brady. Shout out. >> is on a tear until tomorrow got a hold. of. >> Shout out to Brady. One of his shirts. >> out of the two guys that are like most. worthy for a shot at the welterweight. title. I mean, you you got to think Ian. Gary, but you also got to think Camaro.

because he doesn't have much time left. and he's a legend, right? One of the. greatest welterweights of all time. And. then he just beats Wim Buckley like. that. I mean like walking [ __ ]. monster. >> Buckley was on the fast rise to. >> Wonderboy. That Wonder Boy. >> beat the [ __ ] out of Kobe. >> Yeah. Beat the [ __ ] out of Kobe, >> bro. Beat the [ __ ] out of him. Walk. doesn't get tired either, which is. crazy. Like you look at his physique. >> Yeah. That guy's got to get out. He just. his he keeps that gas going for three. [ __ ] rounds. Full clip.

>> Yeah. Believe me, I know. I've been. watching him, >> right? >> Been watching him for months now. No. Sean Brady, I think. Uh that's. >> old turtle shell. >> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] That back of his. is [clears throat] so preposterous. >> And he's staying at that weight, right? >> Yeah. He's not going down. >> Yeah. >> What about and uh Jerry this weekend? >> You know what, man? If you if you're. looking at it on paper, if you like if. you just watch their movements, Old Berg. is really fast. He's really accurate.

Um, and he's slick and he's a big tall. [ __ ] with great skills. Yuri. creates chaos. >> Yes. >> And in that chaos, you don't know. exactly how someone's going to respond. when the guy's still there when you. crack him and he's all over you and he's. doing wild [ __ ] He's got a [ __ ]. ponytail at the top of his head. He's a. maniac, but he's not faking it. >> Oh, no. He believes everything he says. >> That dude, that's how that dude really. lives. Like, he really does hit trees in.

the woods. He goes out there with a. makiwara. His [ __ ] [laughter] He does. all the hard style Japanese [ __ ] and you. know he spends time in the woods by. himself alone. >> He does uh he swims under the ice. He. does the. >> I saw that. I actually saw a video. I. go, "Fuck that dude.". >> I mean, you have to find where the hole. is and you got to come back. >> We had some people in there, too, just. in case. Isn't that crazy? >> Listen, man. Just look at that dude. His. ancestors came over on a boat [laughter]. with a skull on it and they had [ __ ].

swords and they hopped off and started. slicing [laughter] people. >> That dude is a [ __ ] Viking. Whatever he is that war those warrior. jeans like that's in that that dude. takes you to hell. He takes He just. can't do it with Alex. He guts his way. That's it. >> That style just doesn't work with. Pereira. >> I'm wondering does he walk into one here. cuz he's going to get hit. Khalil beat. the living [ __ ] out of him for two. rounds and then. >> ran out of gas. >> Oberg's a big guy, too. Khalil's not a.

big, you know, if you look if you look. at him in comparison to some of the. other guys in that weight class. >> He could make 85. >> Here's here's one that people are. sleeping on. Moff. >> Yeah, >> you think I'm leaning Paulo's Paulo's. way. >> You almost sold me on that yesterday, but Merov manated. >> Undefeated. Let me tell you 37 and. fought nobody. I'm riding it. [laughter]. >> True. >> He put He put Rockish to sleep though. >> He put Rockish to sleep in the first.

round, dude. He's slick. I He does [ __ ]. in there. I'm like, you know, he calls. himself the professional. And it's like. he seems like a hitman. Like some. Russian hitman you hire that comes to. [ __ ] kill people. >> He believes in his power. That's a fact. >> It's not just his power, man. It's his. skills. When I look at him, I'm like, this is a smart guy. Like he moves like. a smart guy. Everything's calculated. Everything's technical. He's really hard. to hit clean. He's a He's a slick. character. And he does [ __ ] too, like. he overreaches, but he overreaches, I. think, on purpose to get reads off you.

If he senses the guy's moving away, he'll he'll come in with big shots that. he doesn't in to try to get a get you to. react and then counter like that. That. right hook that he hit him with, it was. almost like a jab. Yeah. >> That he dropped Rockage with just saw. the saw this movement that Rockic kept. doing over and over again. Bang. Yeah. >> Came in with like a straight right jab. Almost like a hook jab. >> Paul's got a chin. >> Look at that. Watch that again. >> Look how slick this is. Boom. >> Just He's a killer, man.

>> We don't know what Paul Costa is going. to look like at 205, though. He's never. fought it that way. >> Well, didn't he once when he didn't make. weight for 85 against Marvin Vtori? >> Yeah. Yeah. He forced Marvin Vtori. He. was like, "No, this fight is at 205. now.". >> Izzy [laughter] Izzy [ __ ] his mind up. I think. >> he definitely did. I mean he but he. looked the best he's looked his last. fight. Like he cop he just ran through. him. >> Dude, you go back to when he was when he. was walking people down like walked down. yo Romero Paul. He was a berserker. >> I remember when he saluted Paul uh Yo.

Romero in the middle of the fight. That's my favorite part. That was a. great fight. It was a good fight. It. >> was a great fight. But nobody walks down. Yo Romero like that. I'm kidding. There's that photo that one photo of him. headkicking Yo and Yo's face is like all. distorted and you're like how did he. take that shot? This his neck. >> You know, his neck is fused. >> Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. It's. all one thing. It doesn't move. It's. connected to his skull. >> That's crazy. [laughter]. >> Yeah. Isn't that nuts? >> He's [clears throat] sending these. comments. >> Look at that. Look at that photo, bro. That That photo is bonkers. Imagine.

how tough you got to be to be Yoel. Romero and. >> take that to the head when you know your. neck has been through an insane. operation where you have metal. >> connecting the [ __ ] spine of your. neck to your head. >> Sorry. They implanted monster traps to. hold his. >> hand at the same time. They were like. he's a such a freak athletic freak. >> And you see he just fought bare knuckles. >> at 49 and a lot of people disputed the.

decision. They thought he should have. won. Yeah, >> in Russia. >> Yeah. I don't [laughter]. >> Yo, Romero in Russia. I don't know how. he does it. >> He looks great. >> Yeah. I don't know how he does it. >> If you told me he was 32, I believe. Yeah. >> He's RA did RAF as well. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Who Who did he beat? Pat Downey. Pat. And then he came back and he came. back and he [clears throat] lost the. next one. >> Yeah. But he was wrestled a legit thing. >> Dude, the guy that I'm most impressed. with in that is Armen. Oh, I can't.

believe how good he is as a wrestler. >> Yeah. >> Who's the dude he tech? >> No, no, no. The the Lance. >> Oh, Lance Palmer. That's Lance Palmer, >> bro. Lance Palmer is a legit wrestler. for sure. And Lance was like, "Oh, he's. never wrestled at my level. He's never. wrestled guys at my level." Arman goes. up there. Tech falls. Bro, Armani did. better. >> Yeah. >> But even Giorgio, like you watch those. videos that he does when he does like. $100 TV or whatever, whatever it is. >> Yeah. He Armen is a [ __ ] bad man,

dude. He's a bad man. >> I know it. Yeah. >> If you wanted to fight for Ilia at 55, that's a very interesting fight. >> 100% very interesting fight. >> cuz he's hard to hit. He's very slick. and technical. Super flexible. >> Like you ever seen those weird like. mobility exercises he does with twists. and [ __ ] with crazy bridges. Crazy. flexibility. >> He's definitely in his prime, man. He. can't waste his life away right now. >> Stop headbutting people. doing the right. thing because you are in your prime.

right now and it doesn't last forever. He probably already he might already be. champ if he could keep it together. outside of the you [clears throat] know. what I mean like if the who knows what. would have happened in the Oliver fight. it was a proper fight a five rounder you. know. >> he's staying busy though it's not like. he's on the couch you know what I mean. >> he's doing those videos with he put Mo I. have to sleep a couple weeks ago yeah. that was a little too much. >> that was a lot. >> yeah 125. >> yeah [laughter]. >> but like he kept it I whenever they keep. it on when the guy's already sleeping. for too long it's like yo what are you.

what's going on here you know he you got. to know he's out. The [ __ ] happening? >> Maybe some unkind words were exchanged. >> That's kind of my fault process. >> I'm sure that happened. >> Is a hotthead, right? >> You've been known to say something. >> What did he get kicked out of the UFC. for? What happened with him? >> I heard he was just like mean to people. Like mean to the staff. That's what I. heard. He was just like mean to the. staff. >> Yo, I wasn't even talking I was talking. about when he did it to a streamer. I'm. not talking about that fight. >> Oh, we're talking about a No, no, no. I'm talking about him doing it to like. just putting a somebody to sleep of his.

friends. The guys with his other. >> I don't think I saw it. >> It was him on a couch and he put the guy. to sleep. This is a regular Joe. >> Armen did this. >> Yeah, man. >> Jamie. No, no, no. [laughter] Sorry, Jamie. Jamie, >> but uh yo yo, he put him to sleep and he. held that [ __ ] on for an extra. >> how too many seconds. >> Look at this. Watch this. >> Oh, >> no. No, I'm telling you. Do you tell me. if you think it's too long? That guy's. neck makes me sad. >> But now look. >> to know that he's going to do that to.

him. >> Now look to see this. >> now. Ready? Let's see. Now he's out, right? >> He lasted a long time. >> Yo, man. What are you doing? What the. [ __ ] He's out already. I mean, for how. long? >> That's really crazy. >> Been out. >> That's really [laughter]. You ought to kill him. >> That's really crazy. >> Yeah, that was uh. >> that's so unnecessary. >> That's what I'm saying, man. >> What the [ __ ] Yeah, that's that's a lot. worse than I thought it was going to be. >> Yeah. Sorry, guys. I hate to bring the. room down, but on the news [laughter].

that's the crazy thing is Armen knows he. was out right away. >> Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. No, >> also that guy's neck looks like it's. never been choked. [laughter]. >> I felt sad for what he was going to do. to it when I saw his neck. His neck is. making me feel sad cuz I know that's. going to hurt. >> That [ __ ] gorilla, that dude's got a. clamp on him, man. >> Little [ __ ] is having soup for a week. after that. [laughter]. >> Yeah, right. >> What's the problem? Arman's [ __ ] grip. is so incredible, man. I'm just very. impressed with him, man. Very impressed. with his grappling. I just wish he could. keep it together. >> Yeah. I mean, he I mean, his striking is.

not bad neither. Like, he. >> His first fight with Islam was very. close. Very close. First fight in the. UFC. I don't even [clears throat] think. he got a full camp. >> Probably not. >> I don't I think it was a short notice. fight. >> and he fought very well. You know, he's. he's at the it's just like crazy that. fuckups have kept him from being at the. time. The the missing the title fight. was the big one. Yeah, >> that was the craziest one. Like his back. hurt. >> the day before. Like come on. >> It's crazy. >> And you make Hannato Moonnell go out. there and you know not and not having. prepared for him.

>> Moonnell looked good against Duncan. >> Money. jab on him.Oop. >> I like when he gets on that mic, too. He. starts talking [ __ ] [laughter]. >> Awesome. >> He I wish he would have started talking. [ __ ] even earlier. Like I always liked. the guy, but he's [ __ ] hilarious. >> He might be the best in the business. right now. He's funny, man. He's not. getting enough mic time. He needs mic. time when he gets on the mic time. >> Money [ __ ] boy. >> It's hysterical. [laughter]. >> They're podcasts. He's good. You know, he's good on there with him. And I think. Gilbert, you know, they all [ __ ].

[ __ ]. >> Well, that was the thing. He's he's. doing some streams on in he's doing them. in English and in Portuguese, but the. Portuguese is doing better for him. Okay. And he's like, I'm making money. off YouTube now. Like, so I don't care. anymore. >> I I'm I have my money. Like, I have a a. big stream of revenue coming in from. YouTube. Subscribe to my channel, [ __ ] baby, [ __ ]. [laughter]. >> He's a character. >> You need that. You need some. personalities in there. >> [ __ ] yeah. He's good, too. Remember like. his his fight with uh Benois Sanden. >> Oh yeah, merked him,

>> right? Sandine is on his way to a. potential future title shop. >> That win looks real good. Real good. >> You can't judge him on that short notice. of [ __ ]. >> I know. >> What do you guys think of uh Hookit's. [ __ ]. >> He's so fun. >> You think it's fun? I think it's funny. >> I Man, I don't get it, man. I don't get. it. [laughter] I don't get it. >> What are you talking about? >> People are talking [ __ ] It's not It's. not witty. It's like It ain't funny. It. ain't witty. It looks like he's trying. too hard. >> Exactly. I love it. >> No, [laughter] I don't get it.

>> He's like a pro wrestler. It's like pro. wrestling smart dude, bro. You talk to. that guy, he's a smart dude. He knows. what he's doing. He's being a goof. And. here's the thing about people that act. really goofy and stupid. You kind of you. [ __ ] that guy ain't [ __ ] Like they can. trick you. They can trick you. >> You think he's gonna beat Curtis? >> I don't know, man. Curtis is a lot. You. know, it's a big. >> this early in his career. >> Curtis has a lot of power. He's a big. [ __ ]. >> He's going to be a better wrestler. Probably. >> got a lot of MMA experience, but Hook's. a hard dude to solve. He's a really good.

wrestler and he's [ __ ]. hyperaggressive and he's got. definitely uh he's fast. >> He's athletic. >> He's he's a one of the guys that I have. my eye on. You think he can make 205 or. you think he's should I mean well. heavyweight's light so. >> perhaps. >> maybe stay there. >> but really we're just waiting for Gable. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. We're. >> he's getting Romanov I think is. wrestling him and. >> I would not let him do that. I'd be like. what if you blow your ACL out? What are. you crazy? Why are you doing this? You're going to be the heavyweight. champion of the UFC. They got to be.

paying. >> and Romanov's a big dude, man. >> Yeah. I mean, look, I think G I think. he'll be fine. But. >> when you think of guys that are like a. Mike Tyson in MMA, like when Mike Tyson. was coming up, that's what I what I. think of when I see him. Yeah. >> I'm like, how do you deal with that? How. the [ __ ] do you deal with that? He moves. like a cat. He's 240 lbs, Olympic gold. medalist, and he can KO you. >> Smart ass guy in his corner. >> And he's got Jon Jones as a mentor. >> Are you [ __ ] crazy? >> Fight IQ. John's, you know, he's one of. the smartest guys.

>> Yeah. You got that guy in your corner. and everybody saying, I mean, he's one. of the only guys that isn't even in the. UFC yet that I had him on my podcast. >> I was like, I got to talk. >> I mean, he's accomplished, I think, enough anyway. He's already a [ __ ]. Olympic gold medalist, NCAA champion. >> Got to be mid20s. >> Oh, he's young. He's young. And he. they're doing it smart, you know. They. gave him um one of those uh what do they. call? Dirty boxing. Dirty boxing fight. The one where he jumped. Dude, did you. see he jumped over. >> jumped over the rope like it was nothing. landed on? It was pretty sick. >> He jumped. Just stood there and leapt.

over the ropes after he won and land. like the. >> dude [laughter] after he would when he. went he won the NCAA championships like. he can do like roundoffs and like the. [ __ ] like literally boom boom boom like. a gymnast. It's [ __ ] crazy. >> And I guarantee you that attribute. that's we attribute to the speed that he. has and covering distance. He's. dangerous, man. Watch this. Watch when. he goes over this rope. This is crazy. >> Damn. BJ pinch jump up and out of the.

pool right there. [laughter]. >> I mean, that is crazy. But he just he. just stuck the landing and started. twerking. >> effortlessly. He's a monster, dude. Real. hard problem for people. >> Anybody wrestled named Gable? You better. [ __ ] be good. >> Yeah. And named after Dan Gable. >> After Dan Gable. >> Damn. So, he's been wrestling since he's. a toddler. and he's just such a [ __ ]. athlete and so smart. Just dedicated. They're doing it smart, too. They're not. just jumping him into the UFC right. away. He's getting famous outside the.

UFC. that way. >> Yeah. You try to bring him along as much. as you can. >> Yeah. [ __ ] your 10 and 10. Come on, son. >> Well, when they sign him, they got to. get they're going to give him more than. that struck. But the thing is, you don't. >> [ __ ] he ain't getting that. >> Some people are of the opinion that you. don't want to give a young fighter too. much money early because it'll ruin. their motivation. So, I mean, there's truth in that. But, I mean, it's not Who's that for you to. say, though? You know what I'm saying? Like, I want my money. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. You don't get to determine that. I. want my money. Guess what? I think the. cream will still rise to the top. I.

think the guys that are dedicated that. have a lot like Floyd Mayweather when he. was worth hundreds of millions of. dollars would still never drink and run. home from the club instead of people. driving his Rolls-Royce. He's running. behind it. >> Yeah. >> I mean, look at look at Armen, man. That. guy's got money. He doesn't give a [ __ ]. >> He's got a private jet. >> Yeah. He's just Armen's got a private. jet. >> At least he's always on a private jet. Seems like he knows it. >> Jesus. >> Yeah, I think he's got some cash in. >> His family has like tons of money. >> Yeah, but he still has a desire to be. the best. >> Yeah. You know what I mean? It's either. in you or it's not with that. You know,

>> maybe that's why he can't get his. attitude together, too. You know, >> perhaps, right? He doesn't need it. >> A bit spoiled in that way, right? >> Yeah. >> Who's disciplining him? You know what I. mean? He runs his town, I'm sure. >> What do you guys think about Hamzot and. Strickland? I I Well, let me tell you, >> this comes down this comes down to. Strickland's motivation. >> Well, I mean, you got to be [ __ ]. motivated. How many more shots you get? >> Yeah, but I mean, he's worked with him. before. I mean, they I know they say. that K's out submitted him, but if you.

hear Strickland talk about it, they were. doing like additional rounds when you're. starting on the back. >> Started on his back. >> I mean, come on. But I think when they. moved around, I think he feels pretty. confident with it. He's a hard guy to. keep down, Sean. Yeah. And uh who made. who made Kamzot look human? Gilbert. Burns, Kamar Usman. I mean, they made. him look human, you know. And Draus. again, not you don't want to see that. rematch, but. >> in the fifth, but in that fifth round, >> he he did get into some decent.

positions. He just got reversed right. away. I mean, Sean, if there's any bit. of blood in the water, he's [ __ ] a. finisher. He's, you know what I mean? He'll stay on him if he's hurt at all. >> He's durable. I mean, and everybody's. saying how underrated his grappling is, the guys that are working with him. So, I I mean, it's that's all I've heard, too. And he's so hard to hit, man. >> He's got a weird style. >> It's very weird. It [ __ ] you up. And. he's really good at moving back away. from shots. >> All the hands are in your face, too.

>> He also throws like looping shots on. purpose sometimes. Like, you would think. it's bad technique, but he's like. finding a way around your guard and he's. catching you with weird stuff. And his. [ __ ] jab is on point. Was you Did you. Were you at the Was you calling that. one? No, >> I was there for that. And you could hear. it. Like you don't always hear that. >> You could hear the thud in his jab when. Fluffy was blocking him and it was hard. >> He was mixing his kicks in there. Well, he's going to have to watch that. >> He wasn't getting hit, man. The thing.

about him, if you if you watch him when. he's on point, he's so [ __ ] hard to. hit. >> He just [ __ ] up with Alex. You just. can't make any mistakes. >> It seems like everybody [ __ ] up with. Alex. Yeah, he's he's [laughter] a. freak. >> Yeah, he doesn't negotiate with you. He's just like, "You [ __ ] up, it's. over.". >> Do you do you think that um I do you. think that translates to heavyweight. with gone? >> I don't think so. I don't I think Gan is. a little bit too. >> I think Gon would decision him. >> Good chance of [ __ ] dancing and and. jabbing his way to victory.

>> But that's what I'm saying. Like Scott. is Gon is going to like put him I think. Alex will [ __ ] could put him out. >> Here's one thing. Ghan hasn't been 185. pounds since he was 12, >> right? >> Yeah. >> I mean, that's a big heavyweight, athletic, moves like a cat, and he's got. world class striking skills, man. That. Tom Aspenol fight, that first round. opened up a lot of eyes. Like, he looked. [ __ ] good, man. >> It opened eyes. All right. Opened up. [ __ ] [laughter] Tom's eyes. Hey, dude. I feel bad for Tom, man, because.

>> talk about a guy that got the [ __ ] end. of the stick, >> knuckle deep in his [ __ ] eyes. two. surgeries. >> and everybody's like, "Ah, walk it off. by a poor [laughter] guy.". >> Really was. I just think that was. handled poorly right after the fact. You. know, I think you have to address right. after the fact that you have to probably. tell people like what kind of injuries. can be sustained from this. They're. permanent. Look at Michael Bisping. Still can't see out of his right eye. You can't you can't just have a guy go. back into a fight when he can't see. It's crazy. It's crazy to ask. The guy's.

eyes been injured. If he gets hit again, it could rupture. Who knows? So, who. knows what kind of damage you have back. there. >> So, who do you think was irrespons. like getting his back on it? [sighs]. >> Uh, if I was doing a press conference. afterwards, what I would emphasize first. and foremost is how dangerous eye pokes. are. >> Yeah. But I think we've neglected some.

simple solutions, you know, and I think. there's there's got to be a solution. that we use to stop these [ __ ]. fingers from going into people's eyes. >> Point deduction right away. >> Point deduction is the easiest. >> One eye you touch someone's eyeball with. your fingers, unless it's complete. scramble. You're doing this, his head. happens to be there. >> Yeah. >> But if you're doing this when a guy's. coming in and your fingers go in his. eyes, one point every [ __ ] time. Every [ __ ] time. No, no judges. discretion. No, you know, no referee's. discretion. Poke in the eye. Ow. One.

point. >> Did Did you ever ask Dana about the. pride gloves? What happened to him? >> I did. Um, you know, I don't. >> They should have owned that. >> I don't remember the tech, right? >> That's good. The best stuff is Trevor. Whitman, right? Just pay the man a. little bit of money. >> I was trying to broker something and I. might still be able to do that to try to. figure out a way to just like. >> th those gloves are perfect. The. knuckles curve over. Your hands are in. this position. It does not impede your. grappling. It's easy to do that if you. want to, but the natural position is.

like this. So, if you're doing this, it's because you wanted to do that. >> It's not like the gloves are forcing. your hand open like a lot of people. complain about now. >> Mad scientist. >> Here's the mad scientist. Cover the tips. of the fingers. You don't use them. anyway. >> True. >> Nobody does this, right? So, if you. don't if you're always grappling like. this, right? >> So, cover it with like a mitten. >> Yeah. Little mittens. like a leather. [laughter]. with a leather top like a nice little. >> so it's your thumbs are free so you. still have some potential eye pokes from.

thumbs. >> but that mitigates a lot of it that. mitigates a lot of it and you completely. stop all this stuff cuz now you have a. solid thing that hits it's not going to. go knuckle deep and one finger goes in. one finger's on your eyebrows and it's. just [ __ ] digging in that's crazy. that would all stop if you had a mitten. >> well I mean there's not a lot of eye. pokes in bare knuckle. Right. >> Right. That is interesting. >> And it's because they're always like. this. >> Yeah. >> Cuz they're not. So it's just these guys. they get in there and they're just like.

>> Yeah. >> So the way to stop it really I mean it's. take up way points and guys will be like. this more. >> Yeah. >> Well, I wonder if there would be less. eye pokes in just if you just think. about uh MMA with gloves on if it was if. it was just boxing and no kicking and. takedowns. Maybe it's like all the. different possibilities of things. >> That's what it is. Like it's like. they're trying to like avoid the take. down and like and blocking kicks. Yeah. >> Yeah. Everything. So that's why you're. doing this cuz like Muay Thai guys do.

this all the time. Boxing guys very. rarely do that. No. >> Very rarely. >> Unless they're showing off and they're. about to hit you with a big right hand. Bang. [clears throat] Like Deontay. Wilder. >> Yeah. He'll he'll be. >> Yeah. Old school Deontay Wild would. literally like hold his fist in front of. your face and then wing one wing a. nuclear bomb at your head. I think you just got to discourage guys. to close your hands. >> Cover the fingers. >> Is he fighting Joshua? >> Cover cover. I don't know. >> I don't know. I thought I heard. something about that. >> That's a tough fight. >> He's too skinny for that. At this point,

>> he looked good in the Chisora fight in. moments. There was moments he said, "I. love you." And then Chisora said, "I. love you, too.". >> And then he hit him. Knocked him out of. the [laughter] ring. Jesus. >> Deonte said he he backed off on him. because he saw he was hurt and he wanted. him to go home to his family. >> I love you, too. And he [ __ ]. Deontay did Iaska. >> and I think a lot of times when a a. straight up assassin like Deontay Wilder. meets God. >> probably takes a lot of that mean out of. your heart. >> You need a little of that mean to land.

those haymakers. [laughter]. >> You got to be angry. True. >> Yeah. You don't want to be half a hippie. when you're going in there. Definitely. >> You want to talk about one punch power. though? That guy might be the greatest. of all time. >> Deontay he was like. >> pretty damn close. 48 knockouts in 49. fights. >> He was Yeah, he was [ __ ] people up. >> in one decision. >> and and [laughter] he's was not a great. technical boxer. He started late in. life. That right hand just was [ __ ]. Thor's hammer was dropping on people's. heads.

>> Teddy Alice always calls it the eraser. Any mistakes you make, that right hand. erases them all. >> I always wanted to see him fight uh. Enano. >> That would have been wild. >> That should have been the fight. That. would have been the fight to make. Him. and would have been the fight to make. them two bombing at each other. >> Yeah, they could actually still do that. Why not? >> They could still do that. Like Enano, if. you want to look at it from a business. standpoint, man, that guy's killed it, right? Went over, got that crazy. contract with the PFL. He got a chance. to fight Tyson Fury, knocks him down, becomes a legend, then gets a big money.

fight with Anthony Joshua. That doesn't. go so good. And then he has the his. reintroduction to MMA. He he fights that. dude Hannon, >> right? The 68. [clears throat]. takes him down, smashes him, beats him. down. >> So, he made what? 20 million in that. fight. Something crazy like that. He had. a crazy contract, right? >> Yeah. >> And he had a contract where his opponent. had to make at least 2 million. >> Who does that? >> Yeah. >> How do you not love the guy? How do you. not love that, >> right? >> He he puts it into his opponent must. make at least $2 million. >> Yeah.

>> I don't know. >> And now And now he's got to be making a. lot for this Netflix. >> Netflix thing. They got to pay him. because they need legit names. Yeah. And. You know, Felipe Lind, he fought at. light heavyweight in UFC, right? >> Yeah. Yep. >> Yeah. >> I I worked with him a bit at Top Team. and I mean, I just This is a big moment. for him. It's all I can say. Like, I. don't know how he's going to do. It's a. big moment for him. >> Yeah. >> I'm happy Nate is making that money. Mike Perry, too. I'm happy for them. >> Yeah. I heard those guys are getting. paid. It's nice because this is this is.

a thing where if a fighter is in. contract negotiations, they have their. last fight on the contract and they. decide not to fight or not to sign until. after the fight. >> They do make that decision which legally. they can do, right? Then all of a sudden. Netflix is calling. >> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter]. >> Especially if you win big. You win big. stunning knockout and then you know you. come over to Netflix and make what 12. >> a fight that's nuts and that forces. everybody. >> forces everybody's hand that's what.

business is supposed to do. >> that's how it's supposed to operate it's. good that's what's good for the fighters. that's the most important thing without. the fighters but that's just like that's. why I'm hoping that this Netflix thing. can be sustainable. >> I hope so too. >> yeah because like if they just do a. oneoff I was like. >> again I'm a terrible businessman I'm. terrible at it Yeah, me too. >> But just give the money to the fighters. >> They they they're the ones who fight, >> right? >> Without that, you got nothing, >> right? >> Everybody's making plenty of money. >> Yeah.

>> Come on. >> It's going to be big though, for sure. This thing, everybody's going to watch. it, I think. >> 100%. It'll be huge cuz it's Everybody. has Netflix. They're going to watch it. It's going to be crazy. >> Ronda could become a superstar again. Well, she's already a superstar, but I. mean, if she wins again, then people. start talking about like maybe Ronda's. gonna come back to the UFC and then. maybe Ron is like a WWE moment. Ronda. and Dana shake hands on a stage with. like Erica Kirk fireworks going off. behind them [laughter]. >> and Drew Ski Rhonda and Kayla Harrison.

White House lawn number two next summer. >> Oh, [laughter]. >> I don't I don't think she would do well. in the UFC, but this is great for her. She's done with the WWE and all that. stuff. >> Yeah, I bet it's probably hard for a I. mean, she probably enjoyed the job. It. was a great job. Made her a lot of. money, but it's probably hard for an. elite competitor to do these stage. things. I mean, she's an elite. competitor. >> cuz like instinctively she just wants to. do compete.

>> 100%. >> She doesn't want to fake compete. >> I mean, some guys did it right. Kurt. Angle turned out to be a real good pro. wrestler, you know, despite being gold. medalist. >> Listen, it's a great gig, don't get me. wrong, but I'm saying for someone who. still can fight. Your angle was done at at that point. when he went to pro wrestling. >> I went to. >> won the Olympics with a broken neck. >> She's a savage. >> I just went to the uh the the. headquarters in Connecticut. It's pretty. if I saw Stephanie McMahon's uh podcast. She's very nice. Stephanie McMahon. And.

uh I seen that whole [ __ ] place. If. you're into WWE, it's like a [ __ ]. nerdm. I'm not really into it, >> bro. Tony St. with Cream Pants. >> Oh my god. Cream [laughter] pants. He's. already been there, I'm sure. >> Oh yeah, he would. >> He's working with them now, >> is he? Oh. >> yeah. Yeah, he's doing stuff with the. WWE. >> Is he writing for him or. >> he's going to be in some shows? He's. going to be a bad guy doing some things. He should be He should be like a. manager. >> Happy. He's so happy.

>> That's great. I don't know how much I. could talk about this. I have to be. quiet. I don't know how much this is. public, but they're doing they've. already they're already announcing. they're doing some stuff with Kill Tony. and he's going to roast like WWE people. They're going to do some stuff like. that. They're they're doing a lot of. collaborations together. It's perfect. That guy's a giant wrestling fan. >> He loves it. Yeah. The guys that love it. love it. >> He [ __ ] loves it. >> And he's the best roster, too, man. When. I be seeing him at the fights, I don't. say [ __ ] I'm like, "Yo, >> I don't want him coming at me.". [laughter] He had Dana's back. That's my.

boy. >> Yeah. >> He had Dana's back for the [ __ ] time. We had to do that that thing at the. laugh factory. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Damn. We're going to do. this thing and uh nobody's coming in. prepared. But he had Tony Hinliff. [laughter]. like two months prior. >> That's hilarious. Yeah. Tony's the best. at that [ __ ]. >> He's the best at cracking people, cracking on people, and cutting people. But the people that love that that soap. opera like world of the WWE, it's. >> I don't hate on it. I I see how much.

they love it. >> It keeps you entertained, man. >> They like it. You know what I mean? >> They're really smart at mixing things up. and bringing in new characters and. having new crazy moments. And if you're. a nerd like Tony, like. [laughter] they go nuts, it's like you. you're it's like the same escape. >> It's like a male it's a male soap opera. >> Yeah. But it's like the same kind of. escape that you get if you're watching. Game of Thrones. It's just an escape. This is silly. This is crazy. Oh my god, he's back from the dead. [laughter].

>> See, I But that's where I draw the line. I just I can't do it, man. I draw the. line there. I can't do that. And I ain't. got I ain't got no be I ain't got no. problem with it. I just can't do it. >> I'm in the same camp as you. It's not my. thing. I don't watch it, but I respect. it. I respect how hard it is to do. >> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. It's [ __ ]. >> very difficult to do. Remember remember. Matt, we wrestled at uh in Memphis. >> Yeah, we did a little thing in the. street. We had But we were just winging. it. [laughter]. >> I was hoping you just let me get a. submission. Will you fight me off? Come. on, man. Let me.

>> I hurt my knee. It was tough, man. I. ain't I was like, damn, this is harder. than I thought. >> Oh, them guys take a beating for sure. You can learn how to fall, but you're. still falling. >> Yeah, >> I met Hulk Hogan twice. Well, I met him. before when he did a promo with me with. the UFC. It was when uh we were on I. think we were on Spike back then. >> Yeah. >> But uh I met him a long time ago and. he's like he was 6'5. He's this giant. [ __ ] dude. I was like holy [ __ ] It's. Hulk Hogan. >> And then I saw him the last time he did. my podcast and he's like 4 in shorter. and it's all from getting all of his.

spine fused about the same height now. I'm like wait a minute [laughter]. here in He was like a big guy still but. he was he used to be a giant. He was. like this towering [ __ ] crazy guy. bald hand lips. He was so fun. That dude. was so fun. >> But uh he that's how many back surgeries. he had. And he said it was all from that. move that he had where he dropped down, you know, and then the big seat drop. >> Exactly. So the seat drop every time he. does that, he's compressing his discs. >> 300 300 plus.

>> Yeah. 300 [ __ ] dropping down every. night and just blowing his back out. His. back was just destroyed. >> Destroyed. Every every vertebrae. destroyed. Every disc blown apart, >> herniations all throughout it. Barely. could walk. >> I was watching The Princess Bride the. other day with [ __ ] Andre the Giant. >> What a great. >> Anybody want a peanut? >> Yeah, he's [ __ ] great. >> My name is Diego Montoya. >> Love that. >> You killed my father. Better die. [laughter]. >> Such a great such a great movie.

>> Great movie. >> Great movie. >> Yeah, I put that on for the family. Have. the kids watch it. It's a classic. Yeah, that's one the that lasts ages. It. goes through generations. Look at that. [ __ ]. >> Yeah. Yeah, it holds up. >> [ __ ] love it. >> You know, >> they don't make them like that anymore. >> I just saw that project Hail Mary. That's a nice one for the family. >> What is that? >> It's with Ryan Goslin goes to space and. [ __ ] has to save the world type of. thing. But, uh, you know, it's more than.

that, but that's pretty much the it the. premise. >> Where are these Aremis people at now? Are they Are they passing the moon yet? >> They already did. They they passed it. What happened? >> So they when did they did they land yet? Are they back yet? >> And where are they? >> Uh it should be probably back in the. next day or two. >> Who's going where? >> They went around the moon. >> They went all the way around the moon. >> All the way around the moon. No. No. They just went around. >> They just went around and saw the dark. side of the moon. >> Yeah, they took photos of the dark side. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. >> They crashed on Friday. Uh splash.

>> Splash on Friday. >> I was getting ready to say what? They. crash. [laughter]. >> So they land tomorrow. Wow. So they um. so the the dark side of the moon is only. dark when the moon's not. It's not dark. like the sun still hits it the same. amount the sun hits the light side of. the moon. Is that true? Yes. It's the. way the I used to think I'm a [ __ ] I. used to think that the the reason why we. only see one side of the moon is because. the moon doesn't spin. >> That's what I thought. >> No, no, no. The moon not only spins. around us, but it rotates. But when we.

see it, it the only time we see the moon. during a full moon or a quarter moon or. whatever it is is when the sun is. hitting the side that's always facing. us. >> Right. >> So when when it goes the other way. >> Gotcha. >> That there's a different side that's. facing us, but we don't ever get to see. it because it's dark. >> Right. >> That's what it is. >> But so they took pictures of the other. side. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. And there's aliens everywhere. >> I was about to say Yeah. I was say. what's what's on the other side. on the other side? What's on the other. side? And in that in that movie, he.

finds an alien. By the way, he does. >> This is not really a spoiler. It's in. the in the trailers. >> I had that guy Bob Lazar on again. recently. >> I You want to see a great documentary. that it's fun. Uh the first I would say. Jeremy Corbell's documentary, which is. Area 51, Bob Lazar, and Flying Saucer. Is that what it's called? Bob Lazar, Area 51, and Flying Saucers. So this guy. was a back he was an engineer and he was. hired to uh work on these spacecrafts. that he didn't know what the [ __ ] they.

were and they told him like try to. figure out this propulsion system. They. brought him into this hanger and this is. in like 1988 and it's a flying saucer. that looks exactly like that thing on. the desk. >> Jesus. >> And it has an American flag sticker on. it. And so he's like oh it must be ours. Like and then he gets in it and he's. like what the [ __ ] is this? It's made. for people that are 3 feet tall. There's. no controls, no buttons, nothing. >> Why are you looking at me, [ __ ]. Why? You're the only guy that can. [laughter]. ft tall. You look right at me, you son.

of a [ __ ] [screaming]. >> But he's got a new one out called S4. I. I recommend it to anybody. It's a They. did like CGI and they daged. Is. >> it on Netflix or YouTube? >> No, it's on Amazon. >> Amazon, some some other places. But. >> what's it called again? >> S4. >> S4. I just saw uh I was just watching a. series with you on that Ancient. Apocalypse. >> Was I on that? >> Yeah, you was in that with uh. >> Oh, with Graham Hancock. >> That's right. Yeah, Graham, my man. >> Do you know uh Hrio Gracie? >> Yeah. >> A good buddy of mine. Uh my uh my old.

roommate. >> He He's a [ __ ] wacky guy. He's. [ __ ] [laughter] funny. Funny as [ __ ]. >> So, you know, we were just out to eat. last night with Danaher. We were talking. about him. >> God, I love that guy. >> And he's like, "Oh, he's great." and he. said, "Oh, I'm glad that Hadriico's. matured." I was talking about how to. he's doing good. He just visited me. He. did my podcast and he did a a seminar at. my place. So, you know, I I was catching. up with him. So, he told me he was. visiting Area 51 with his wife and he. goes, "So, yeah, you know, I always.

wanted to go there." So, me and. Fernando, we drove down there and no, nothing was happening. So, then I'm. driving back. You got to drive back. hours through like the dark desert, right? So, he's driving back and he. goes, "Fernando fell asleep." So, I had. my laser pointer. So, I'm just pointing. at a sign, pointing at this. He goes, "Matt." And then I saw blue lights in. the distance. He goes, "Oh, I could I. want to make contact." He goes, "What?". He goes, "She was sleeping." So, I. started taking my laser pen and pointing.

at it. He goes, "And I didn't think. nothing of it." And then all of a sudden. I'm driving. and I hear. and a a yellow circle around my car and. I wake up Fernandanda. She's like, "WHAT. DID YOU DO?" AND HE'S LIKE, "I. [laughter] JUST took my laser pen. It. was a helicopter [ __ ] following him.". Like just And he goes, he goes, "It was. getting down to like almost my roof. I. didn't know what to do. They had a. yellow spot around my [ __ ] car." So I.

she told me I we called the police. So. we they you know they go look there's a. there's a helicopter following us and. they go is are you in a they said the. car the everything they go the. authorities are waiting for you at the. rest stop. up whatever. So he goes to the rest stop. takes his laser pointer he gets there. throws it in the garbage. I don't know. why. And then he comes out they they're. like look they they they put him in. cuffs and he goes to his his wife. He. goes go in there and get the laser pen.

It's in the bathroom. He She goes in the. men's room through the garbage, finds. it. So, they're saying, "All right, you. were you were shooting interfering with. um a military helicopter or whatever it. is." Like, in other words, it's a major. >> Yeah. >> crime here that he could be facing. He. goes, "Mad." He goes, "I was [ __ ]. myself." The two pilots come over, one. of them takes off the helmet. Cauliflower is. He goes, "Fucking thank. you. He trained under my cousin." He. goes, "The guy's [laughter] bow." He. goes, "The guy's bowing to me." He goes,

He goes, "My wife's yelling at me." So. he got out of it. The guy trained under. He's a brown belt with the [ __ ]. >> God. How lucky. That's so lucky. [laughter]. >> I don't [ __ ] man. Only you, bro. >> That's so l Yeah, they probably thought. they were trying to like [ __ ] with. planes. >> cuz [snorts] kids do that. They They. shine laser beams at planes. It's like a. real problem. [laughter]. >> Is it? >> They get in their eyes while they're. [ __ ] flying the planes. The lasers go. all the way up to a plane. >> I used to be with Higo on on 27th. Street. He's like, "Dad, watch this.". We'd be out the window, guys walking.

down the street [ __ ] he's like, "Ah, look at HIM JUMP OFF THE COVER. [laughter] LOOK AT THIS. YOU'RE GOING to. hell. What are you doing? >> [ __ ] whites and. still getting them in trouble." [snorts]. >> That's so ridiculous. A lot of people. would think it's a laser sight on a. rifle. >> Take that down. Don't do that. [laughter]. >> Don't do that around here. He thought he. thought he was making contact. >> He's making contact. He's got [laughter]. a chopper. Yeah, they keep talking about making. contact. I'm tired of hearing about it.

>> Let's do it already. God damn it. Yeah, I want to see it. >> Yeah, >> they're just dick teasing us. >> Yeah. [ __ ] I don't think that. >> But you're a sci-fi guy. >> Oh man. Have you watched the Dune movies. or No. >> No. I know. I was You want to give it a. shot? >> I do. I don't have any time. When I get. home too, like if if it's like late at. night when I'm home and I'm by myself. watching [ __ ] I don't want to watch. anything like that. I want to watch. documentaries. I I was about to say, man, take a week off of a documentary on.

[ __ ] dude, we're not going to find. out what happened with the next week. >> The watch [laughter]. getting close, man. >> The Dune movies are so [ __ ] heard. They're amazing. >> Josh Brolan is great in it. Now they got. the Dune Messiah. >> Mimoa was in it. >> Yeah, they got [laughter] a third one. coming out, right? >> Yep. Third one coming out. And this guy. can't miss this. >> Everybody keeps telling me how awesome. they are. >> They are good. They are good. >> No, they're very good. >> I tried to watch it. kind of slow. I. just. >> Yeah. You know what? I You get that. Just get that. It's kind of slowing. [laughter] opinions.

>> I don't know. >> Hey, you know what else? Who else is. coming out with a movie? >> WHO? >> Just like we planned. Remember you told. me. Hey, [laughter] bring that [ __ ] up. No, you he came out with a uh. >> flowers. Flowers. Hey, I did a show. >> Hey, wait. That's why Dean picked up. dinner last night. I see. No, no. I I. did that because of my new job. But. >> Paramount, [laughter]. >> I'll tell you right now, you almost gave. me a heart attack when you reach for. that [ __ ] bill.

>> Yeah. >> Is this a movie that you put together? >> Yeah. Yeah. Which wasn't produced. >> It's Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's about a. female in a in an abusive relationship. >> Wow. >> No. Look at you, Mr. Sensitive. >> There it is. There it is. >> Flowers. >> Oh, boy. >> No [ __ ] The multi-talented. >> Yeah. >> You know, >> nothing to do with cage fighting at all. >> Look at that Thomas. That's incredible, dude. Congratulations. That's awesome. >> Yeah. I'm g start shopping at the film. festivals. Yeah. Next week. So, >> that's awesome, dude. That's awesome. [snorts]. >> Yeah.

>> I like when people spread their wings. >> You got to like, you know, life is short. and you don't want to be in a box, you. know? You want to be able to do all kind. of different things. >> and you can do whatever the [ __ ] you. want. >> You can do whatever the [ __ ] you want. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, I try to do whatever the [ __ ] I. want. >> I'm telling you, that's how to live. >> Yeah. >> That's how to live. There's too many. people out there not doing what they. want to do. >> That's a hell. It makes me sad actually. It. >> It's a sad existence. >> Yeah. >> You know, and a lot of people are doing. it cuz like you got to take care of your. family and I get it and I respect it. Maybe have a good time at work. That's. great. But if there's a thing you want.

to do while you're still breathing, >> I know. Do you do it? >> You should try. At least try it. Get it. out of your head. >> I feel so fortunate when I [ __ ] have. my day today. You know what I mean? >> Cuz I'm not like Thomas. I don't want to. do [ __ ] [laughter]. >> You got He's got another job every other. week. >> He does. And he's asking how I'm doing. And I'm like, dude, my school, Talio's. Pizzeria, [laughter] no promate, no. bleach, and and my pod my podcast I'm having fun. with and UFC unfiltered. Dude, it's just.

such a perfect little thing for me. I. don't want to do anything else. >> Beautiful. >> It's so much fun. >> That's the There's a lot of power in. saying no. >> Oh, >> you know, saying no to things. I don't. want to do anything more. Like, just. enjoy what you're doing. You don't have. to keep piling on. But the thing is once. things start going good, you start. saying, "Bo, I better not say no to. nothing." No, just keep saying yes. >> Offer me that. I should do that. I'll. find the time. >> But once but once you get to the point. where you can say no, that's a great. place to be. >> Oh, that's the best place. >> Is your heart in it or not? Do you want.

to do that? Like. >> Exactly. Exactly. >> Shoot, man. >> The dayto-day your day-to-day life. That's what I love about Longo. Longo's, you know, [snorts] it's funny. He's. holding for my daughter now, which is so. great. She had her first kickboxing. match one, I told you. But like it. >> send us the pictures in the group chat. It's amazing. But. >> such a proud moment. >> Oh, so proud. And it's so it's just so. cool, man. When I see him holding for. like he doesn't have like you know he. just that guy just is doing he's just. doing the same thing. You and him.

some Paramount was smart. They would do. a [ __ ] a whole series of you and him. traveling to fights, working with. people, hanging out and cornering each. other. You guys in the corner are so. It's [ __ ] I'm like keep the camera on. Sarah. >> Ain't [laughter] that the truth? >> It's the truth. We always talk about it. in the commentary. Like it's [ __ ]. awesome watching you guys in a corner. Good technical advice, but it's just. fun. You guys are fun together. >> Just on a on an amateur card. We just. got brought back together for one of my. fighters, Adrian. This this little young. uh Filipino guy. He's good kid. Nurse.

He's a nurse. Always smiling. >> They're all nurses. He went in. [laughter]. >> My wife's a nurse. Filipino. But uh he. went in there and he's just like I just. have just my one wish is to have you and. Ray and Mike Corn. He's such a nice kid. So we went in there. We cornered him. We. didn't have to work the corner though. The first round he flatlined this guy. >> Nice. [laughter]. >> Oh man. So yeah, man. >> You guys are great on your podcast. You. guys are great on your podcast together. too. You got a good chemistry. >> You got a crazy friendship. It's. perfect. It's like the banter is.

hilarious. The two of you guys, you. compliment each other perfectly. It. would be a great show. I'm telling you. We going to do something soon before the. first episode is me and the guys taking. Longo to a home. He's not getting any. younger. [laughter]. Hey guys, field trip. Longo, where are. we going? >> Don't let him talk to you like that. Ray, [laughter]. >> I'm in your corner. Ray, >> we [ __ ] road trip to the [ __ ]. home. Longo. No, not longo. He's [ __ ]. >> Oh my god. >> What do you think of um Gilbert Burns. verse Mike Malot?

is Gilbert's lost four in a row, but he. did it to all killers. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? >> Mal's tough guy getting better. >> Only lost once to Neil Magny in a fight. that he was doing great in, but then he. got Neil Magny cuz that guy's [ __ ]. >> never gets tired. >> Never gets tired. Never disciplined. Always in shape. >> He rided the ship since then. And uh. that kid's like the next captain Canada. He's doing people they make an unfair. comparison like, "Oh, you're the next. George." That type of thing. But he's. his own fighter. He's got a a great.

skill set, good head on his shoulders, a. family of studs. His brother's like an. ice hockey [ __ ]. >> It's a good test for him, Gilbert at. this stage of his career, you know. >> Yeah. See if he still got it. >> Yeah. >> You know, he's the first guy to make com. look human. >> But when Morales did that to Gilbert, I. was like, Jesus Christ, >> Morales is terrifying. >> He looks so big. It doesn't make any. sense. >> I know. >> He doesn't make any sense. So when we I was with Brady when Brady. got beat by him and. >> at the way and he looked okay, right? Like you know a guy he's 170 pounds.

Then the next day we he steps into the. cage and we're just looking like oh my. god massive massive. >> Yeah. And when you're that much taller. that the and you're you're the better. striker. >> God. >> Yeah. It's a huge advantage. Like you. just cuz you can stand six feet away. from a guy and just be like Ogari last. week. Oh my god. Man, what are we. talking about? >> Yeah, like I know man sore what he. trained at with a ground control as a. kid and uh before he went off to college.

and all and I mean the only thing I can. say first off obviously he was not ready. for him yet but uh he definitely showed. a lot of heart cuz he [ __ ] stayed in. there and took. I was thinking the exact same thing. >> I hope he comes back. I mean that was I. I personally knowing him I felt horrible. watching that. I was like. >> he wasn't ready for that yet. There's. just when you get an elite striker, you. got to realize that guy beat Pereira in. glory. >> Yeah. >> Pereira knocked him out twice after. that, but in the first fight, he beat. Pereira. >> I think people looked uh like ordinary.

in his first couple. Like he came out. with a new version and it was [ __ ]. impressive. >> He's [ __ ] good. And he's training. with Pereira now. So he's at Glover. Glover. >> Yeah. You know, that's a great [ __ ]. camp. And Glover has so much knowledge. >> Yeah. He's That guy was in the dark for. six years where he couldn't get into. America. And during those six years, he. was the boogeyman. Everybody talked. about Glover. They're like, "There's a. guy that's in Brazil. He can't get to. America, but if that guy gets here, he's. [ __ ] everybody up." And that was. Glover. Glover was a He was always.

training with Truck Chuck in um in. SLO. >> And they're in Danbury, Connecticut. That's. >> And that's They're not They're not in. Vegas. They're not out. So, you know, >> ain't [ __ ] to do out there. And all they. doing is training. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, dude. >> Just nothing but Lyme disease in the. woods, >> right? [laughter] And federal prison in. Danberry. >> Yeah. Yeah. Connecticut is it's a good. place to just not get distracted. >> Just get to work. >> Danberry is where uh Hadrigo Gracie.

broke my elbow. >> I was there. Yeah, you was there. >> I was there. >> I didn't know you was there. I. >> You know I was there. Yeah. >> Damn. Did you have to get pins in it? >> No, they they I mean they set reset it, cast it, no pins. >> He told that story at the seminar. Oh, he did. >> Yeah, cuz [laughter] I had to bring that. up, man. I was like 25 years ago. >> He said. >> because we weren't close at the time. >> and I was yelling [ __ ] But I I regret. that, too. [laughter]. >> Wait a minute. What did you yell? >> Well, he he cuz he let it go. He let it.

go. >> and you didn't tap. >> Well, yeah. >> And Right. Which was great. And then I. was yelling at him for for letting it. go, which I [laughter] was just. psychotic cuz you're my friend now. At the time it was just. >> Well, to be fair, like if I knew it was. going to break, I would have tapped. >> Yeah. I didn't know it was going to. break, >> right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's what the story he told. Then he then he said that Henzel yelled. at him too after that. >> for letting it go. >> WHY' YOU WERE YOU GETTING SOFT? [laughter]. >> Why you let that [ __ ] go, >> bro? I got to get Henzo in here.

>> He's the best. >> He's definitely. >> We were going to do it at one time, but. he was only in Austin for a short amount. of time and I didn't have anything open. I couldn't get him in. >> I'd love to sit down with that guy. What. a legend. Yeah. >> Stories for days. >> And he's one of those guys like you hear. about a guy getting a black belt and. you're like, "Okay." And you go, "Oh, you got a black belt from Henzo." You're. like, "Oh, okay. >> Definitely.". >> It's like Henzo Hixon, Jean Jock. Machado. There's a few of those guys. that are like, "Okay, >> that's a real black belt." Like, >> I mean, Henzo's New York place is like.

one of the most legendary places in the. history of jiu-jitsu. If you had to. write a history of jiu-jitsu, the Henzo. Academy in New York City, holy [ __ ]. man. >> Remember when he came over? [ __ ] He. came over in 96. We had like an inschool. tournament, you know what I mean? It was. great because Craig Kuk already had two. schools for him. He had a jersey school. and that guy. >> No clue, man. No one knows like and. disappeared. >> My first instructor, but he was not an. easy guy to to he never let you get too.

close. >> I bought all the tapes. [laughter]. >> I learned I learned to mount escape from. those tapes at work one day. I was like, "Oh [ __ ] it worked." He was a very good. teacher. I was one of the before. >> Early Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt. He. was a black belt like like early 90s, right? Like the Steve Maxwell era. He. was one of the earliest ones, >> too. I found out about him through the. Gracie newsletter that I was applied to. at like 17. I used to get that the cuz. when you buy the tapes, you get a. newsletter. And one newsletter, it was. like every few months it was announcing.

the first American black belt. And then. like two newsletters later, they. disowned them. They had a business. >> [laughter]. >> But I'm like, but then I found out. through Black Belt magazine that he was. teaching in the village one day a week. in the city. I go, "All right, >> they might have disowned him, but they. couldn't take away his skill set. There. was no place to learn in the on the East. Coast except for Maxwell and Philly.". >> So that's how I found Kuck. And then he. partnered up with Henzo and. >> and then I went with Henzo when they. broke up obviously. >> Why did they break up?

I remember Henzo took me out to eat one. time and he's like, "Look," and I always. got I got along with Henzo so much. better. He right off the bat. Like Henzo. was just so warm and great and he. invited me over his house and he was. just such a and Craig was was always. kind of a wall. He was a big German guy. just but uh I remember one time he told. me like look something with the business. where he wasn't feel like he was being. treated fairly. I'll just leave it like. that. And then uh he goes, "Look," he. goes, "if no one likes Craig." He goes, "If you go with him and and and me," he.

goes, "People will go with him because. of you, cuz they like you." And but I. want you to come with me. I go, "Look,". I go. And at first, I'm like, "Is any. you" know, I was a young kid. I didn't. know. I go, "Is there any way you guys. could make up?" He goes, "Man, if it was. Brazil, he'd be already dead." I go, "All right, [laughter]. okay, Enzo. All right, I got you. So. much for that." Ah, >> so I went I went with Henzo and Craig. kind of left town. >> So Matt, where are you in the pecking. order in terms of American black belts.

from Henzo? >> I'm I'm the first American under Henzo. Okay, that's amazing. That's crazy. That's amazing. That's amazing. >> That's something that could that's my. biggest achievement right there. >> You know, he took me under his wing. Henzo, again, I was a purple belt. He. got me out of a security guard booth, taking me to Japan to corner him verse. rings cuz he wanted to me to see what. it's like backstage. Dude, I was no I. didn't do anything yet. I'm like, "Oh. [ __ ] really?" Japan [ __ ] So he would. just do stuff like that. Yeah, he did. He He put a lot into me. So I can't.

thank him enough, dude. That's. >> that [ __ ] camp. You just think about. how many elite black belts Henzo. produced. And then think of the John. Donaher branch of it which also right. generationally like it just it dominates. all the generations of jiu-jitsu. >> Especially now if you think of what. Donna has done you know I mean his prize. guy Gordon Ryan greatest of all time. >> for sure but I mean even on the other. side who they don't get along with so. much now like like Nikki Rod and them. are still from Donna.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And all elite of the. elite. >> Yeah. No John well crazy lineage. That's. a guy that just put 100% of himself into. it and he's got a genius mind. I. remember he didn't even own a television. until my buddy Chad LeBron who was. moving back to Virginia gave him. something. He gave him one so he could. watch it had I think a VHS and a DVD. thing where he wanted to just study. wrestling tapes and Japanese tapes and. he just used it just to study. >> I have a question for you. Whatever. happened to Eddie Wolverine?

>> Yeah. So I asked him about that last. night. >> What's his last name again? >> Uh Cumins. Cummings. >> What did he say? He got into some kind. of business now. He's not really. training as much. >> God, that guy was good. >> Yeah, he was good. >> It was leg locks, man. Early in the day, like as the leg lock revolution was. unfolding, that guy was first, you know, savage. He put out, >> bro. And, you know, just super super. technical, you know, trained a lot of. those guys in leg lock technique, too. You know, they all shared techniques. >> Oh, yeah.

I'm I think it's just amazing that John. drives. He never drove in New York. [laughter]. So I go, "How'd you get here?" He goes, "Oh, I drove." I go, "You [ __ ]. >> with a rash guard on and a fanny pack. [laughter] and an Adidas sweatpants.". >> He was dressed up last night. He had a. All blacks polo shirt on from New. Zealand. Yeah. >> Yeah. A New Zealand all black shirt. Matt asked him, he goes, "What? What? No. rash guard?" And he goes, "Oh, I got. dressed up for you tonight.". >> Well, he probably went back home to his. family and his mother was like, "Honey, [laughter]. >> stop wearing the rash everywhere.".

>> Right. It is crazy. That's all he would. wear. He's teaching at Kingsway now, Gordon School. Now that Gordon's done. competing, he's got that school going. on. >> He's like a character in a movie. Like. he's not supposed to exist. >> That. >> Yeah. He's a philosophy major at. Colombia. >> who uh is falls in love with jiu-jitsu. because he's a bouncer. He wants to. learn. >> bounced at scores. >> Yeah. Right. >> Want [laughter] he's this like jacked. like powerlifter bouncer who played. rugby. >> He was like 220. He was yoked up. >> Jacked. And so then he learns jiu-jitsu,

becomes obsessed with jiu-jitsu, but his. body's all [ __ ] up from rugby. He's. got a [ __ ] up knee, then his hip gets. [ __ ] up, and. >> so he can't really compete, but he is. such a jiu-jitsu fanatic that he trains. the best guys of all time. >> It's kind of nuts. >> It is nuts. >> And that's all he cares about. Like he. doesn't give a [ __ ] about anything. He. doesn't give a [ __ ] about social media. Look at John. >> That's one of my favorite pictures. full. head of hair, jacked, looking ready for. a a gay date. >> John definitely [laughter].

looks like he's wearing almost like he. had a skirt on. It does. He was. >> a really John definitely would rock a. headgear, too, when he wrestled. For. sure. >> He was a bad [ __ ] dude. Bad. [ __ ] I know a lot of people who. rolled with him that were shocked. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Dude, John would do privates and wrestle. everybody all day long. >> Yeah, he lived it. You know, he still. lives it. That's all he does. And it's. just so, you know, fortunate that you. get a guy who's that smart like in. everything. Like he's really well read. history, all kinds of like he's a very.

interesting guy to talk to, but he. becomes obsessed only with jiu-jitsu. He. didn't have a family. He doesn't. >> Yeah. >> wife and kids got to take care of. >> I love that choking people. >> When you have us out here, it's like a. routine now. Now every time we come out, I I get dinner with him. So I don't see. him too often. So. >> Right. >> It's great. >> It's like a little reunion each time we. come to town. I'd be with him how many. days a week? We'd just train and go to. Burritoville. >> They were in Puerto Rico during the. pandemic and they were having a hard. time there and I was like, "Come to. Texas, baby. [laughter] Come on down.".

>> I'll tell you, you're the Pied Piper. They They all ended up here. >> Well, it's a fun place, man. It really. is. It's the. >> Well, I heard the whole Puerto Rico. thing was good for a while, though. I. was talking to Nikki Rod about that. He. said it was great. He was like just like. being in Puerto Rico with your friends. in like a frat house training jiu-jitsu. all day. It was like amazing. Well, especially because they were shut down. Yeah. And in Puerto Rico, you have. outside like you can get light into the. room so it kills the [ __ ] staff. better. Yeah. >> Right. How many guys got staff from that.

the basement jiu-jitsu? >> Right. Right. A lot of blue. >> A lot of people got staff. >> There's a lot of funk that gets on those. mats that if you're not careful. >> [ __ ] up his belly with all the. antibiotics. >> Mhm. And that's from staff. >> Dude, my [ __ ] belly, Joe. On the way. here. On the way to the JFK. [laughter]. I told us. >> cuz I always got my issues but I usually. give myself like if I'm going somewhere. like on a car trip or anywhere like I. clear out for at least an hour and a. half to two hours like I'll I'll give. I'll have my espresso in the morning two.

Celtzes and then I just let it go to. work and I'm pushing on my belly cuz I. things get stuck in there. >> So I thought I gave myself enough time. and I was going to JFK from my house. It's 30 minutes. It was 9 in the. morning. We 10 minutes into that [ __ ] car. trip. I go, "I'm not [ __ ] making it.". [laughter]. I go, "I'm I" I go, "I'm not." I go, "I'm not." And the guy was my driver was. such a good guy. What a nice guy. I gave. him a fifth I give him a [ __ ] tip. Good tip. So, we're driving. I go I go, "All right, let me just keep watching.

videos on my phone. I'm like, let me. just try to let my mind go somewhere.". Clock the clock wasn't moving. I look. back. I go, "That's another minute." I. go, "I'm not I There's no way I'm making. this." So, I'm on the Bell Parkway. It's. not like you could just pull over. So I. go, you know, I go I go, "Buddy," I go I. go, I I go, "I'm sorry, man." I go, "I'm. I'm not going to make it." I go I go, "We got to we got to pull over." He. goes, "Oh." He goes, "Oh, the the bel. there's nowhere really to pull over. You. want me to take an egg?" I go, "Go off. an exit." I go, "You're going to" I go, "YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.".

I GO, "I'M NOT MAKING IT." I GO, "CAN I. GET YOU?" I go, "Can I have your. 7-Eleven cup?" I GO HE GOES, "OH, DO YOU. HAVE TO PEE?" I GO, "NO, I'M GOING TO. [ __ ] IN YOUR CUP." I [laughter] GO, "NO." I GO, "I'M SORRY." I GO, "I'M. SORRY, SIR." I GO, BUT I I GO I GO I. knew it was it just it's going to happen. and it's my biggest [ __ ] fear and. it's coming to life. So he this guy No, it's okay. No, it's he got over. We. almost hit a [ __ ] car. I'm on the. side. There's There's not even bushes or. anything. There was some like some like. uh. >> Nobody could see you behind.

>> Everybody saw me. No, there's got to be. some top. >> I got out. As I'm taking [clears throat] my pants. down, [ __ ] I'm going, "Thank goodness. I made it." And [ __ ] I get back in. I. go, "Buddy, >> you [ __ ] in the cup?". >> No, I didn't. I have [ __ ] I had this. piss. >> Oh, >> but it's like Well, I mean, I felt my my. [ __ ] pulse, but nothing. [laughter]. >> Okay. >> You know, when you feel like, you know, >> does it is like that with you with when. you have to pee, too? >> I sometimes I have to I have to do both. Like, I'm like I have to pee, but I know.

to really get it all out, I have to PUSH. IT. [laughter] HEY EVERYBODY, HOW'S MY. ASS? >> SO, BUT YOU with pee though, like you. can't just hold pee, >> man. I can, but not to this. >> Not like how you used to be able to. >> No. Well, it's not like it's one of. those things where I have to clear out. in the morning and I thought I totally. cleared out, but sometimes I'm like, "All right, I'm good. I pushed out. totally." And then it kind of just gets. something else in the chamber or. something. I'm like, "Oh, no. There's. still something left." [laughter].

So, we're driving. I I'm like, when I. when I get the feeling, it's it's such a. horrible feeling because you're It's not. about willpower. It's not about thinking. of something. I'm like, dude, it's going. to [ __ ] happen. This is the day that. I just piss myself. It's gonna But thank. go dude, I gave a custom tech. It was. $78 for the road for the trip. I gave. him a $50 tip. I go, "Dude, thank you, bro. You're a [ __ ] hero. This guy. [ __ ] saved my [ __ ] ass." And cuz. someone else like they'd be like, "Hey.

dude, [ __ ] off with like or or don't do. this in my car." DUDE, I'M LIKE, "IT'S. HAPPENING." I GO, "GIVE ME A CUP." HE'S. LIKE, "OH, DO YOU HAVE TO PEE?" I GOT MY. OBVIOUSLY. >> But dude, he made it. But I couldn't, Dude, I [ __ ] a 30 minute drive there. I couldn't [ __ ] make it. >> That's crazy. >> It's scary. But as you get older, it's. hard to hold it, man. >> But I think it's my ulcerative colitis. has to do with that. It has to have. something to do with that. But. >> cuz that sounds crazy that the dude just. comes on that.

>> quar. Dude, it's it was I I've had it. before, but like I I don't know if I. told I maybe said it the last time here. We were going to an aquarium out east. with my family and it was one of those. things just like this. And I get out of. the car and then we're looking and we. I'm like, "All right, I can." And then I. see there's like a line out the door. I. go, "I'm not making this. There's no way. I'm making this." So I go, "Honey, I'm". She goes, "Okay, go go go." So I [ __ ]. There's like a post office with those. those bushes that come straight up like. they're all tied together. I [ __ ]. smoosh myself through the second I take.

my dick out. [ __ ] bees come around my. [ __ ] [laughter] head. I GO, "DUDE, I'M GONNA GET STUNG cuz I'm not GOING. OUT WITH MY DICK.". And [ __ ] I didn't get stung, but I. definitely had some on the front of my. pants. >> What are you going to do? You know, I'm. a very clean person. to that. >> Imagine being a woman in that situation, right? There's no hiding it. Oh, hard. >> But uh yeah, man. These are the things. you got to deal with when you get older.

a little bit. I am getting my stem cells. that's hopefully going to help. >> What is the cause of ulcerative colitis? What do they say causes it? >> Uh I don't know. I mean, I think some of. it's my history. I know one of my. brothers had Crohn's, which is even. worse. Crohn's disease to level up. >> Yeah, man. Like, so I know my. grandfather when he was getting older. though, he had some [ __ ]. >> Have you ever like swared off pasta? Well, >> just like taking like months off. >> I went I try to go carnivore. >> I did go gluten-free for a while, you.

know, but you know, they even espresso. I go, "Come on, man. I got to have. >> I'm with you. Every time I go to New. York, I have to eat Italian food." Like, I'm looking forward to May the Jersey. shows so I can get some [ __ ] New. Jersey Italian food. >> I got to take you I got to take you to. Tios, bro. You'll love this pizza. >> Let's go. >> You will. You loved it. Oh, yeah. I'm. trying to come up next week. >> I'm sure I love it. I'm sure. I love. pizza. >> No, no, they just they're [ __ ] No. bleach, no probate. Don't give me. nothing. But it's so I because I could. eat it. I could eat three slices on the. way to my school and I'm not [ __ ] up.

I could train and it's [ __ ] If I did. that with a [ __ ] regular slice of. pizza, dude, I want to take a nap, >> you know? So, it's a it's even my wife. now orders the the zero zero flour, the. Yeah, we get that [ __ ] where she bakes. the bread, she makes the pizza, she. makes fresh bread. Feel like got a Game. of Thrones. I'm dipping it in my soup. >> That place I took the Vegas place I took. you to Ganos. All Italian flour, all. handmade pasta. [snorts]. >> Yeah. Tonight we want to go to a place.

>> Hey, let's go. >> I want to [ __ ] do that thing. [laughter]. >> Get to my [ __ ] hotel. >> If you did that, if it would have an. effect, >> you know who cured his [ __ ]. ulcerative colitis is George St. Pierre. >> How did he do? >> He said it's one of the reasons why he. was stopping fighting. Fasting. >> He was fasting. >> Really? Yeah. >> Interesting. >> Fasting did that. That's what he said. >> That's what he said. I mean, but he does. some hardcore like three long [ __ ]. >> Yeah. He does [laughter] like at least. three, right? Three days. >> No, I can't do that. >> Yeah, I do 24 hours sometimes. Yeah, but.

that's not that hard, >> you know. >> Yeah. I mean, you just you stay busy. enough. It's. >> I think if you're busy, definitely you. could you could. >> just eat a big dinner. Don't eat till. the next dinner. What is that? >> Cherry cola. Was that a new one? >> Oh, dude. You know, you got. >> Yeah, you got him on those things. It. all started from here. >> But uh. >> thank you very. >> It is tasty. >> Oo, that's delicious. >> Yeah, >> that's good. >> I know. I love it. >> They're illegal in California. >> They are. >> Isn't everything. >> you can't you can't have flavored. nicotine in California.

>> What the [ __ ] What the hell is that. about? >> Is that like. >> Because they just want to be able to. tell you what to do. >> Yeah, >> that's that is a symptom of the You. could go buy whiskey. You go to CVS and. buy a jug of whiskey and drink yourself. to death. [laughter]. >> But you can't buy. >> You cannot buy flavored Zins. >> You can't buy flavor. It makes zero zero. sense. >> You can't buy flavored vapes cuz they. don't want to encourage kids cuz you. know how kids are. >> They just want to They want flavored. Zens [laughter].

talking about it all the time. >> So [ __ ] stupid. It's so stupid. California is just so dumb. They just. want to tell you what to do. It's a. bunch of nannies. >> and if it's legal, they're going to tax. it and regulate it. >> Exactly. And everybody's moving out. People just fleeing that state like it's. on fire. >> Everybody's coming here. >> They're coming here. They're going to. Tennessee. They're going to Florida. They're going anywhere they could just. be left the [ __ ] alone. >> New York. >> New York's not much better. >> No. Well, hell, everybody's running out. of there, too. >> Not me. I'm there. I'm there for life. I'm not going nowhere. [laughter].

>> Yeah. It's just It just sucks when the. government gets goofy and you're like, "What are you talking about?" Now that. Kathy Hol is saying Palm Beach and get. get those people to come back to New. York. >> Remember before all of you go move to. Florida. >> Yeah, that's what she said. >> Which is a crazy thing to say. That's a. crazy thing to say. It's so delusional. >> But that guy that lady's nuts anyway. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> She said that the vaccines were a gift. from God. Like she said she talks crazy. [laughter]. >> It's like people are so tired of Cuomo.

they're like who else? Okay, fine. You. run it. You know what I mean? It's like, how did that lady become like the your. best choice? That seems nuts. >> That makes me concerned that Stephen. Corb is doing the next [ __ ] Lord of. the Rings. >> Who is. >> He's like he's writing the movie or. something. Him him and his son. >> And I know he's a [ __ ] little bit of. a. >> Wait a minute. Co Bear from the Co Bear. Report. Peter Jackson. Peter Jackson was. making an announcement. I know all the. nerd news. Peter Jackson was making an. announcement about a new Lord of the.

Rings movie he's coming out with. I'm. partnering up with Well, let me let me. show you. And all of a sudden, they go. to Steven Corbett reading a Lord of the. Rings book. Oh, hey. You know, they. planned it. And he's like, "Yeah, I took. it from this part of the thing.". >> So, you don't have any damn. >> [ __ ] Poor poor Tken. They [ __ ] all over. his thing. That rings of power is just a. [ __ ] mess. Piece of [ __ ]. >> What is that? [laughter]. >> Orcs. Rings of Orcs were making orcs. like Yeah. Like they were like Yeah. They had feelings and they were like.

they were like kids. They were like. little kids. It was weird. >> What? >> What is this? >> Rings of Power. The Amazon series of The. Lord of the Rings is the biggest pile of. [ __ ] next to the Aculite. >> It's Everybody's [ __ ] on our [ __ ]. childhood or [ __ ] on they [ __ ] on the. major franchises that had some really. good lore. Like everything from Star. Trek. What the [ __ ] they did? >> Dude, everything Disney touched they. [ __ ] up. Marvel everything. Bro, how. do you [ __ ] up orcs?

>> They made him terrifying. >> Yeah. No, they weren't terrifying. >> How do you [ __ ] up the Hulk? >> Explain it. >> They make him smart and they made him. [ __ ]. >> Thanos kicked his ass and he never got. his balls back if Thanos kicked his ass, [laughter]. >> right? >> You know. >> Yeah, that's an orc, bro. >> Yeah. Now watch with the helmet. Click. get on click on that dude with. >> like they have feelings. >> Jesus Christ. >> Oh no. Oh yeah. They're making. discriminated against. Oh no. It's. [ __ ] brutal. >> That guy's got feelings for real. >> Yeah, he had feelings and Yeah. Oh, they're not supposed to have feelings. >> There's There's no more good.

>> supposed to be like demons. >> Nope. >> Nah, now they're just. >> that one in the lower right hand corner. with the [ __ ] helmet on. Look at. that. Oh, [ __ ] Yeah, >> you don't know his backstory. He might. be a good guy. His back. >> I don't want him to be a good guy. Me. neither. I want orcs old school like. from the movies. >> That's why that Night of the Seven Kings. was refreshing cuz it had no [ __ ] in. it. There. Look. There you go. Wow. Well, give the guy a chance. Who knows? Maybe it's awesome. >> They say he was uh had a cameo in. Desolation of Smog.

>> Oh, [sighs]. no [ __ ] They did an animated series. that uh The War of Rohem, which was a. piece of [ __ ] They made a girl boss in. there [laughter] that had she had the. they had all the cool dudes get killed. and the girls killing everybody and. she's knows everything and she. >> and and they took it from like one like. she was in like one paragraph and. [ __ ] in the thing and they just gave. her this big backstory of being a. badass. >> It's like the Fantastic Four with the. female Silver Surfer. She appeared in. maybe one or two comics. This [ __ ] is.

not a main character, no shape, no how, but boom. Is the real Silver Surfer in it too? >> No. >> No, they got they seems silly. >> Exactly. >> No, [laughter] they. >> Why did So there was a female Silver. Surfer for a while? >> No. Like like very sporadically like. maybe appeared in one or two. It was. actually his Now you're getting on my. nerd side. Y. >> it [clears throat] was his wife before. he was the Silver Surfer. Like Shalabal. his was his chick. And uh the Russo.

brothers, they are they are they they've. been hitting it out of the park with. every Marvel movie they did. Yeah. So. they're doing Doomsday, which is gonna. be coming, which is basically going to. be they're putting out Endgame again in. theater in the theaters and it's going. to be like directly like it's going to. take place directly after. >> Good. Good. Well, I heard Ruin King. Thor's coming. I'm [ __ ] ready for. that. >> They did Winter Soldier. >> It's like the highest level of Thor. [laughter]. >> Oh, that's [ __ ] cool. Let's keep going. Oh my god, you're such.

a nerd. [laughter]. [ __ ] great. I don't know this com. is such a crazy thing for a grown ass. man. [laughter]. >> Big ass [ __ ] grown ass man. Level of. Thor. >> That stuff's my WWE. I love that [ __ ]. cuz I grew up on the comics. >> I loved they ruined those [ __ ]. movies, man. It's [ __ ] Thor. Um. Ragnarok was fun. Love and Thunder. Horrible. >> Oh, here's my my friend the rock. monster. Hey, and here's his life mate,

Bob. The rock. What the [ __ ] Why. though? What does that have to do with. anything? >> You know what? You got to give credit to. the DC movies then because they never. ruined Batman, >> right? The the most recent Batman's at. least, the Christian Bale Batman, and. then the new one. >> It was still pretty dark and like dark. just like like Yeah. There was like. there's no woke [ __ ] in them. There's no It wasn't. >> They [ __ ] murdered that Thor. They. killed him. and Gore like Christian Bale. played Gore in that movie in the comics. that is the [ __ ] best Thor story.

Gore's a like first off he didn't look. nothing like he did on t on the movie. but he's killing every killing all the. other gods like I mean Thor his [ __ ]. dad they had to get a whole crew to come. and fight this guy and none of that. really was showed in in the movie at. all. >> It was horrible love and thunder. [laughter]. >> It was nerd. I didn't know you was such. a nerd. >> Oh for comics. I didn't know. >> Why didn't they do it like the [ __ ]. Oh, wow. Look at him there. >> See if you can look in the comics like.

the comic version of Gore cuz it's not. even close. >> So, this is already out. >> Turned into. that was [ __ ] loving. >> Damn. Look how Look at his click on that. with your cursor's on. What the [ __ ]. man? >> Yeah, they wrecked. He was a perfect guy. to play it, but they just ruined the. >> Yeah, you can't blame Christian Bale. >> Yeah, they should have done it. Just buy. the comic books. You shouldn't be able. to rewrite history like that and [ __ ] it. up. See [clears throat] if his It's Gore the. God Butcher. Yeah, that's Ruin King. Thor, just in case you were wondering, Joe. >> Jesus [laughter] Christ.

>> How many Thors are there? How many? >> That's the same guy. It's just levels. >> Oh, [laughter] explain that. Uh. >> oh. >> Whoa. >> That's from the movie. >> Damn. He looks good in the movie. That's. pretty dope. >> It's probably also just a rendering. because I don't know that they've shown. stuff like this. >> When does the movie come out? >> Later this year. Doomsday comes out this. year. >> and so does Dune Messiah. >> It's a good year to be a nerd. >> Yeah. Well, the nerd movies sell the. best if you think about it. Commodore. movies are like 100% guaranteed Harry.

Potter. >> Yeah. >> So, the Harry Potter show that they're. doing on HBO. I've read Find out if this. is true. Put this into Perplexity. Our. wonderful AI sponsor. If uh they made. they it cost them $100 million each. episode. >> What? The new one that's coming out. this new one. Apparently, it's so highly. produced. It's like they they they've. risked a billion dollars. >> Oh my god. >> series. It's supposed to be insane. >> Harry Potter, >> but it's Harry Potter. And you I feel. like you can't miss with Harry Potter. except with trans people.

>> There's a a lot of controversy with uh. the casting cuz they did a um a race. swap with Snape. Snape. He's like a guy. that's. >> $100 million. That's going to be a rough. one, man, because his backstory is not. good. >> It hasn't been confirmed yet. Several. recent reports claim the budget is. around 100 million per episode. >> Jesus. >> Seven planned season, eight episodes per. season, 56 episodes total. That per. episode figure implies an estimated. total production cost of about $5.6.

billion. >> It looks like it's done well. I saw the. the coming. you have to if you're going to do a. Harry Potter, you got to do it to the. maximum. There's already. >> I got to get into Harry Potter because. [clears throat] there's not a lot of. black characters in it, but there is. one. >> There's one now. >> But before that, before that, the one. character, guess what his name is? >> I'm not guessing anything. >> Dean Thomas. >> Shut the [ __ ] up. >> I swear to God. >> I swear to God. I want my ROYALTIES FOR.

THIS. I [laughter] WANT MY ROYALTIES. I. wasn't. >> You had another guy. Definitely not. spelled the same way. >> It is spelled the real way, but the. Yeah, >> there it is. >> There it is. >> Dean Thomas. side character. >> Yep. >> Not many blacks. >> Out of here. >> The one is Dean Thomas. >> So, why why is it controversial? Because. they race swapped. >> because his backstory. was I think he was in love with uh. Harry's mom and then they [ __ ] I. think they all beat him up and stuff. It's just not a good look.

>> if it's you know what I mean cuz he. plays. >> Black Snape. So, you're implying that. they beat him up because he's black. >> Well, I'm not saying that. I'm just. saying it's not I'm saying to make him. >> like a like a character that's. >> I don't know. Why does he like me? [laughter] It could be it could be. interesting. >> Meek Mill. >> It's gonna if they just follow the. books, it's going to be amazing. >> Hey, I I you know I I miss the I was a. little bit older than my kids love the.

Harry Potter. You know, people go adults. read the books and [ __ ] I don't. >> I think it's the most successful books. of all time. >> Is it? >> Yeah. >> I think so. I think it's like right up. there with the Bible. >> Damn. >> I feel bad for that lady. [clears throat]. >> Find that out and put that into. >> She got She got crucified for just. >> compare the sales of Harry Potter guns. though. >> She got crucified for being logical and. reasonable and telling the truth and. trying to protect women and all these. [ __ ] people's these actors are still. saying she said problematic things. I. want to hold them down and say tell me. what she said that's problematic. >> Yeah, that was a bit unfair to her. It's.

just there was an article written about. this one actor that did it where that. said he. >> is more concerned with being on the. right side of Hollywood than the right. side of history. >> And that's accurate. Yeah. Because these. people all don't want to offend these. dorks in Hollywood that are out of their. [ __ ] minds. Enormously um. commercially commercially what does that. mean? Enormously commercially. successful, but the Bible has sold far. more copies overall. Uh Harry Potter. series has sold over 500 million copies.

Estimated for the Bible is around five. to six billion copies. Um how many copies of the Quran have. been printed? >> Uh I before I mean there's also multiple. versions of the Bible and there's seven. books of Harry Potter. So yeah, there's. not seven, you know. >> Right. Right. Right. Right. >> You could break it down. So there's 45. books in the Bible and those are all. sold. >> Yeah. But most people buy it as the. Bible. >> I know. But there's also the King James. Bible. There's Bible. >> and there's the Old Testament and Yeah.

>> So, >> so by fewer copies, Harry Potter book. sales are estimated to have generated. about $7.7 billion in revenue. >> Not a Harry Potter in every uh hotel. room in the country either. >> That's true. That's a good point. That's. a good point. Yeah. They keep that Bible. in that hotel room just in case, >> right? That's a weird thing, right? >> Yeah. Why do Why do they do that? >> I think someone donated it. Like there. was a there was a Bill Hicks joke he did. about it back in the day. I forget there. was a name on the Bible like it was a da. da da bible like someone like one family.

donated Bibles to like every hotel room. >> The Gideon Bible. >> I think that's it. Is that it? >> Might be. I mean I. >> the Gideon family. I think that was the. joke. That was part of the Who the [ __ ]. are the Gideonss? >> I was I was so depressed when I got. here. I I brought my Metaquest and I. realized I brought two right. controllers. I'm like no. [laughter] I. had my headset on. I go no no no. I'm playing. Hey, I'm playing a game. now. A new game. >> What's the game, >> Jamie? Get ready for this.

>> Forefront. 16 on 16. There's tanks. There's [ __ ]. choppers. F O R E. Front. It is. Forget. about Pop One. Forget about contractors. I know I hyped them up on here before. This [ __ ] game is just pure. adrenaline. Okay, that's I just want to say. [laughter] that. I just wanted to get. that out. Joe, I'm telling you, you used. to like the Quake [ __ ]. >> Yeah. I want to see what it looks like. Show me what it looks like. >> Forefront is so good.

>> Here it is. This is it. >> 16 on 16. >> Yeah, that's But where's the gameplay? This is You have You You have to I LOVE. THE SNIPING. OH, you you give me my. behemoth and I am [ __ ] taking people. out. >> You just bring that dude back to life. >> Yeah, I'm a medic there. >> But uh it is so Look at the tanks. But. you're seeing this through your VR. It. is so much fun. Me and my brother-in-law. Edwin, we go on this [ __ ] and we. take souls. You can get on a bike. You. could do a four the four-wheeler. They.

have anti-aircraft. They have carriers, ACPs, they have tanks. How do you have a. life outside of this? >> Well, I don't. >> That's the problem with these things. I. have a house of women. You know, >> they're watching Love on the Spectrum. and I'm playing this. >> They like that. >> The problem is these are too good. They're too fun. They could take your. whole life away. >> No, I got a two hour time limit on my I. play until my battery dies. >> That's good. >> You know, two hours. That's all those. things last. >> around that hour and a half. Hey, after.

a day of making people more dangerous, do my podcast. You know, I deserve how. tall my I deserve. >> No, you deserve it. I'm just scared. I'm. scared. I watch it. I get scared. >> You should. Hey, we we could squat up. >> No, no, no, no, no. >> Go on. >> You would get addicted to this. >> No, no, no. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's a real. problem. It's a real problem. It's a. real problem. Yeah, >> it was like. >> I can't play these. >> It was like a crackhead that couldn't. get his lighter work INTO [laughter]. >> cuz that's how I like to kill time here. when I'm [ __ ]. >> I made a decision a long time ago to.

never bring like a gaming setup with me. on the road. >> I'm like I can't do it. >> Yeah, where it goes. I start playing. I'll be up till 4:00 in the morning. >> I'll be if like any first person shooter. where you're running around a map and. there's another dude on the map and you. got to get a rocket launcher and [ __ ]. him up. It'll It starts to feel real. >> It feels very real. >> Me last night. Then I had to go back to. >> What is this one? >> Oldfashioned. What does it look like? >> Oh my god. It's Doom. It's Doom in VR. Oh. Oh no. This is a problem.

>> I got to find this. >> But Doom is uh. >> I actually think this is the the player. of Quake Doom. >> Oh, it is Quake 1. Yeah. Oh wow. >> You like the Quake stuff. >> Love it. >> But I'm a I'm more of a Quake 3 Arena. guy because Quake 3 Arena like show them. some Quake 3 Arena. They got the. graphics down and then they had it set. up where everything was online. So you. didn't have to like buy the new version. of Quake and download it to your. computer and run it and play it and No, it's online. So you just log in and.

you're playing this streaming and it's. [ __ ] phenomenal. >> It's like that now with the meta. You. just get updates. >> Show some uh highlights of gameplay so. you can see what it looks like. >> Supposed to be the VR. >> Oh, this is the VR version. Oh, Jesus. Christ. Why are you showing me this? >> [laughter]. >> Don't show me this. >> cuz I was going to tell you next that. the Apple Vision Pro is being updated. now so we can play with. >> Shut the [ __ ] up. Don't do this to me, dude. Don't do this to me. This is my. game. This is my game. I [ __ ] love. this [ __ ]. >> As if you had a Starlink, you could just. do this on the plane. >> Shut the [ __ ] up. >> Oh, you just I'm not doing this.

>> Is it a battle royale? You just got to. kill everybody. >> Yeah. The The problem is, man, I start. doing it and if I start [ __ ] people. up, I can't stop. >> It's fun, dude. >> I And I got pretty good at it. Not like, you know, I could win tournaments good, but I got pretty good at it. Like I. [ __ ] these guys up. The dudes in the. studio I [ __ ] up. >> Oh dude, I'll tell. >> I would get real addicted to it and I'd. start getting Yeah, that's a problem. >> And then I start playing online and just. going into room. >> Next thing you know, Yep. your life is. >> This is one of my favorite maps. You. bounce out to this one and everybody can. see you so they're all sniping you when.

you're trying to come back when you get. the god power. Now you just [ __ ] destroy everyone. >> All right. You speaking my language. >> Yeah. Look at this, bro. You got a rail. gun. Precision movement. Boom. Look at. that. That's the rail. Look at the rail. gun, bro. You got to have super. accuracy. >> Boom. And while you got god power, you. just have to hit him once. Boom. >> Boom. Look at that. Oh [ __ ] This guy's. got timing. >> This This is a dick. This is like You're. watching I'm watching people smoke crack.

and I'm going, "Oh, give me that. [laughter] pipe, baby. Give me that. pipe.". >> It's so funny. >> If they But if that was VR, I would. never have a life. I don't have a life. >> I can't do it. >> It's just helps balance me out. You know. what it's like, dude? It's like. jiu-jitsu if you never got tired. >> H Yeah. Well, that's what that's why you. have the battery life on it. That thing. gets. >> Imagine jiu-jitsu if you never got. tired. You just do it all day. >> If you never got hurt, you never got. tired. You would just be training. constantly. >> Especially if you were [ __ ] people. up. >> Oh my god. Always winning and tapping. people out. >> Once you got to a certain level, I mean,

this is to me straight crack. >> Oh, dude, that looks fun. >> Come on. How fun is this game? You're. swapping weapons instantaneously and you. have certain weapons set to different. keys. Just like my rail gun is always. this middle the wheel button. I hit that. [ __ ] I get the rail gun and you. can adjust your uh speed of your mouse. depending on the weapon. >> Do you hear the other players? Do they. complain when you use a certain weapon? >> Um I don't know if they use that with. this. I never did. I don't When you chat.

with Quake, you would have to pull the. menu down and chat. If you have a bunch. of people talking while you're playing, it's going to ruin your game experience. >> Yeah, sometimes with this for I don't. want anybody talking [ __ ] I just want. to kill you. They're like, "Good job." Yeah, [laughter] good job, Unk. They call me. Unk. Good job, Uncle. You had to use a. shotgun, [ __ ] [laughter]. You know, I try to be mature. I'M LIKE, "YOU'RE DEAD, YOU LITTLE [ __ ] YOU'RE. DEAD. YOU SHOULD USE A SHOTGUN, COCKSUCKER." YEAH. YEAH. They complain. when I kill him. They're like, "What are. you, 30? You're playing a game?" I'm. like, "Well, I'm actually 50.". [laughter].

>> Thank you, kid. I'll take 30. >> What is that? 30. I'm like, "Well, >> it's great, >> bro. I remember when I was in high. school. I found out Madonna was 26. I. was like, "Oh, she's old, [laughter]. >> dude. I remember I remember getting. ready for a fight at 35. I was getting. ready for Trigg and I had Gian Volante. there now. He's older than this now.". And he's like, "Dude, how's it feel to. be 35?" I go, "Dude, [ __ ] you. I'm still. fighting. >> [ __ ] you.". >> You know, I bring that up to him now. He's like 40 now. Like, you caught up to. me a little, you know?

>> Yeah, man. >> You know, it's weird. We're all dying. [laughter]. >> I know. It is. I mean, think about it. We don't got much time left. >> Slow to process. Really? I'm 58. >> What are you, Johnny? >> 57. >> Damn. >> Oh, you guys could have went to high. school together. You class above. I'm. 51. Young man, I'm still only 49. >> You're full of [ __ ] I'm 49. >> Keeping it together. >> Yeah. All right. I like it. >> I thought you would be like a Brazilian. Hardrigo Gracie used to lie about his. [ __ ] age like a chick. [laughter]. >> Dude, you're you're my age. What does he. say? [ __ ] 29 still. What are you.

talking about? >> No one knows how old Yoel is. >> Oh, yeah. probably older. >> I know. [laughter]. >> Might be older. >> It does feel weird when you say 51. Like. when I say 51, I'm like, "Oh, 50s." I. go, >> "Man, I'm. >> younger." You never really picture. you'll be that age. >> Me, too. I'm almost 60. >> I mean, when we were growing up though, 60 was broken down. And. >> Yeah. It's a big difference from. >> Shout out to Ways to Well, >> right. Life Med for me at home. Ways to. Well, >> you [laughter] do. You hang out Do you. hang out with younger guys? Cuz I hang. out with you. >> You're in the in the gym. You're with.

younger people. That's what I'm saying. I'm always with younger comics for. unless it's Ron White, right? >> It's those worlds and and I bet you I. bet you when you hang out with Ron. White, it doesn't feel like you're. hanging out with an old man. >> No. Like me and Longo. gem. He's a gem. >> Yeah. Longo's 67. I. >> just say throw away something. It'll. just be so funny. We all be dying. laughing. He's a naturally funny dude. >> and just a sweetheart of a guy. >> He was good in tires also. >> Oh, he's great in. >> I like that show. >> Yeah. Well, you know, he's homies with. Shane. Shane's always there, too. It's a.

night. It's But that again, like young. people that are doing the thing we all. love to do, having fun, just just like a. jiu-jitsu gym, just like anything else. >> You don't I mean, this idea that you. have to one day grow up, like that's not. true. I'm here to tell you it's not. true. You should grow up in some ways, like be a good dad, take care of your. taxes, you know, that kind of stuff. >> Why you looking at me? >> After that, after that, shut up. Shut. up. Have fun. >> Oh, that's me in a [ __ ] nutshell. >> Yeah, there's nothing wrong with you. playing those games. Just don't tell. those kids how old you are.

>> [laughter]. >> I know, dude. They call me an old man. This guy sounds 30. I'm like, you little. [ __ ]. >> Yeah, >> but it's fun, though. >> Don't have a heart attack for real. [laughter]. >> You have to take any [ __ ] breaks in the. middle of your VR experiences. >> But I I I'm [laughter] not above I'm not. above teabagging those little bastards. when they get wise. I'm squatting down. on them in my [ __ ] thing in my. >> teaag a guy after you kill him. >> They get mauy. I will teabag somebody. [laughter] I don't give a [ __ ] You. don't outgrow that. So you you actually.

squat physically and it does it. >> maybe. My wife's like, "WHAT ARE YOU. DOING?" HE DESERVES IT, HONEY. [laughter]. >> CRAZY. >> LISTEN, that's crazy. It's different. than a video control. You're actually. [laughter]. >> That's crazy. >> I get my squats in, man. >> Have you seen those uh multidirectional. treadmills you're doing those games on. now? >> Yeah, but I'm not running. My knees. aren't good for that. So there's a. treadmill like a circle and it goes in. any direct omniirectional I think they. call it and you're strapped in with a. harness that like keeps you from and you.

just move you move like you're running. you would be in insane be some people in. better shape. Oh, dude. You You would. think how good that would be for your. footwork. >> Like, if you could have a VR, there's a. good VR boxing game. And one of the. things that I noticed when I was playing. it was my feet were hurting. >> cuz I was doing it on concrete on cement. and I was wearing like Converse Allstars. and you just push it off your feet all. the time. I was like, "Oh my god, I'm. getting a foot workout. This is crazy.". Like it was gassing me out because you.

really see the guy and he pops you, everything goes white. Like he got. stunned like boom. Oh [ __ ] Get them. back. Right. >> And you're moving. You're moving around. stuff. There's a bunch of them. >> I got to get into those. >> Tiring. I don't is when you hold the. gloves, like if you hold the hand things. like this, it shows the gloves like. this. So when you're punching, it looks. like you're punching them wrong. So it. [ __ ] your head up. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? So when you're. twisting to punch, it's showing this and. it [ __ ] your head up cuz.

>> giving a [ __ ] wing chunk punch, right? [laughter] So, like if you punch. like this, it'll look like the knuckles. are coming out, but you're doing this. >> Oh, yeah. >> You figure how can't they get that? >> They should get that right. It should be. where your hands are positioned. >> So, if you hold it like that, it should. be the gloves are like that and then you. turn it like that and it looks so that. way it doesn't [ __ ] with your head while. you're punching that thing cuz it's. weird. >> Clearly, the developers. programmers and fix that. >> But I think there's some real benefit in. it for real. Because first of all, it's. harder to hit air than it is to hit a. thing, right? So, you get a little.

workout doing that. The things don't. weigh much, but you could always put. like a little you little whis wrist. weight or something or someone could. make a controller that has lead in it. that has a couple of pounds for each. one. You would get good endurance doing. it and you're doing a lot of footwork. drills cuz like you're lomachenko in. these moving around. >> good for you. >> And it's also showing you how to move. away from things and counter. There's a. bunch of different things that you could. actually apply to re It's better than. real shadow boxing. Yeah, I was about to. say it's like it's like intense extreme.

shadow boxing. >> Yes. Yes. It's like you're really. visualizing cuz there's an actual thing. in front of you. I think there's benefit. to it. I think it would help you. >> I mean 100% I think there'd be benefit. >> Yeah. And you're not getting hit, right? So it's timing where. >> you're not getting the CTE along. >> you're getting it's not it's going to. replace sparring. you're always going to. need to spar, but it'll give you a lot. of like neural pathways to different. movements that you'll you'll have like. programmed in you in a fight with zero. consequences, >> right? That's great.

>> Yeah, you can't do it with jiu-jitsu, unfortunately. But you probably could. with a robot one day, >> like you get a good AI robot, >> you know, that's not going to spaz out. on you and rip your [ __ ] head off. >> I would never trust that, right? >> Imagine if the AI got mad you tapped too. many times. [laughter]. I'm going to show you my real strength, dude. >> Dean, in this next role, I'm not going. to go easy on you. >> What? What do you mean? >> I'm watching you. You [laughter] know. what? [ __ ] eyes out. >> You got me hook. >> only cuz they look human. The uh.

Cyclones. I'm watching the battle. I. started watching it. >> It's great. >> It's really good. It's really funny. What is that on? >> I'm almost seasoned on the sci-fi. network years ago. It was un like. unappreciated series. like one of the. greatest sci-fi series of all time, the. reboot of Battlestar Galactica, and I. was super skeptical because Battlestar. Galactic when I was a kid, I loved it. Everybody was super campy. Wasn't very. campy. And then all of a sudden,

Skywalker was a girl now. I was like, what? Or Starbucks. Starbucks was a girl. now. Katie is amazing. She's great. That. [ __ ] series rules, dude. >> It's a great It's a great writing. >> I'm on the first season. I'm almost done. with it now. I got like an episode left. and. >> way better than the original series. >> It It's really It's really [ __ ] good. >> It's phenomenal. It's really good. And. the Sylons scare the [ __ ] out of you and. they're hot hot chicks. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Ruin your life. >> Oh, my favorite. >> It's good. Yeah. Everybody's favorite. It's great. It's a great [ __ ] series,

man. >> John James Elmo or whatever. >> James El. Yeah, he was great in that. Is. he alive? >> Amazing. >> Did he die? >> I don't know. James Almost. Is he alive? >> No. There's no way. >> Edward James. Edward James Almost. That's right. >> He was great in that great Mexican. prison movie. Remember that? >> Yeah. What was that? >> Blood in Blood Out. >> Blood in Blood Out. >> He got in trouble with that. >> They wanted to kill him cuz they made it. out like these dudes were [ __ ] each. other in jail. >> Oh, they're not. >> Yeah. Well, [laughter] even if they are. >> Yeah. Don't talk about it.

>> Yeah. >> Snitches get stitches. >> Yeah, man. >> I think people died because of that. movie. >> No. >> Yeah. I think people were killed. >> I thought that heard heard something. about that. >> Yeah. makes you not want to go to jail. >> Well, I just don't think they let these. dudes know how they were going to. portray him in jail. >> And I think, you know, they they happy. about that. >> Severe disrespect. >> Is he alive? Edward James almost. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Good for him. >> 79. [clears throat]. >> He's phenomenal on that show. Phenomenal. in that show.

>> Yeah. >> It's a great show. >> Yeah. Yeah. I just got a I I think I. heard you talking about it and I put it. in I got on Amazon Prime. I bought the. first season. It's [ __ ] good. There's. another Amazon series. What's it called? Not the Eclipse. >> Um, The Expanse. >> Yes. >> That's supposed to be phenomenal. >> I watched a bunch of those. I got to get. back into that. >> Sometimes it gets a little chatty. >> I watched a couple of them. I was like, I see this could be really good, but my. wife wasn't into it, so we abandoned it. >> It's It's good. I keep hearing I keep. hearing I hear once you get past like. the first few episodes, it really picks.

up. >> Yeah, it's good. It has [clears throat]. um Thomas Jane. What's Thomas Jane? >> Oh, yeah. He played the Punisher. Yeah, he's in that at least the first season. It's good. The guy who's the lead guy. reminds me of Jon Snow if you see he he. looks like a skinnier Jon Snow. >> John Bernthal played the Punisher, right? There was a bunch of people. played him. >> How many people played the Punisher? >> Well, I mean that the guy from Dolphin. that's back in the day.

four of them they gave him fake stubble. and it was obvious. It [laughter] was. like literally like the makeup lady. didn't even try. She just smudged some. fa. It's the the worst looking face. stubble [laughter] you've ever seen in. your [ __ ] life. See if you can find. that Dolph Lungren face stubble from the. Punisher. It's like you're looking at. that go like just leave him unshaven. >> Yeah, he was cool as him. >> Lund. from R Steven. >> I know, but you can't see it in there. Like a photo from the actual. >> the actual movie. It looked like Why.

does he have smudges all over his. cheeks? Yeah, I like Baronthal the best. >> The new Spider-Man movie, he's going to. be in it. The Punisher. >> The Punisher is supposed to be gigantic, though. He's supposed to be like that. dude uh that plays Reaper. >> I thought race. Yeah, Adam Richmond. He's supposed to be. like Adam Richmond. Supposed to be. That's what The Punisher is supposed to. be. Supposed to be a giant jack dude who. kills everybody. >> And good for Reacher for smacking that. guy around. That guy deserved it. Like, you know, he's looks like he's riding. with his kids. The guy got in his face,

made him drop his bike, got in his face. again. He deserved to smack him. >> He pushed him off his bike. >> Yeah. >> You know what the hell? That guy looked. like a [ __ ]. >> Well, he said he was drunk. So the guy. smelled like booze. >> Oh, no [ __ ] Smack him up. >> He was asking They showed the cops. version of the video when they went to. his house. He's like, "Could you run a. toxicology on that guy?" Cuz I think. he's drunk. He smelled like liquor. The. guy tried to knock him up. Well, you see. that guy? What are you doing? Why are. you pushing? >> And he's real lucky he had that camera. on. You know what I mean? >> 100%. 100%. Cuz if you only got to see. him beating that guy up, that would have.

been a real [ __ ] problem cuz that guy. denied it. But he had a camera going on. his chest pack. >> Yep. >> Luckily. >> Yeah. >> You see that guy grabbing the bike and. pushing him off. >> guy put hands on him first. >> in front of kids, man. >> There's so many people out there. If. >> you're on a bike and you fall and the. bike falls in your leg like you [ __ ]. idiot, you know dangerous. You break. someone's [ __ ] leg that way, you. drunk [ __ ]. >> 100% warranted. When I went to go see. that Project Hail Mary the other day, dude, this these [ __ ] I got.

the second row and sure enough, the. first row like five teenagers, dude, they don't even they have their phone. and it's bright and you see it like they. don't give a [ __ ] The lady, there's a. couple next to me older. The lady comes. out, she takes the thing out. I'm like, what? I feel like saying you should know. better, lady. What the [ __ ] And the. kids I want to I I I a couple times I. got up this and then they put it down. I'm like I know I'm going to say.

something and if I get the wrong. response am I going to smack a. [laughter] 15year-old? Am I going to. smack if if I get Hey, [ __ ] you guy. What's going to happen? Cuz I'm not. totally normal. I [laughter] mean, you. know what I mean? I DON'T I JUST DON'T. WANT TO LIKE because there's right and. there's wrong. >> A whole generation has not been checked. They're gonna get smacked because. they're mouthy%. >> and I just see UFC fighter smacks 15y. old. [laughter]. I just see that happening. But anyway, I. got out of there without nothing. But.

it's just kids are so addicted to their. phones. They can't put them down for 5. seconds. >> Just. crazy. >> In movie theater, they can't stop. texting people. >> Yeah. >> They're not enjoying anything. Everything they're doing, they're. getting distracted. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Which is crazy. >> I feel like talking to their parents. >> That's not going to help, >> you know. Yeah. >> No, you got to smack them. >> Someone's got to smack them. >> Yeah, >> man. I'll tell you. >> that happened. Our generation, if you. acted a fool, you got slapped. >> Yeah. If you talk mouth in a movie. theater, someone's going to get up. You.

know, if you were loud in a movie. theater, people would get up and hey, shut the [ __ ] up. Like, I've seen that. happen many times in movie theaters. People almost get in fights. >> They don't do that no more. >> That is there's no repercussions. I. think a whole like what did Mike Tyson. say? A lot of what did he say? He said. something like, "A lot of people, you. get used to talking [ __ ] without getting. smacked until you get punched in the. face.". >> Something like that. Yeah. And it's just. true. Like people just don't worry about. anything, you know? >> But there's also so many streamers that. are doing these things online where.

they're provoking people on purpose that. it's almost like normalizing [ __ ]. >> I hate that. I like when they get. smacked. >> Yeah. They think it's like they're. creating content by harassing these. people, [ __ ] with old people, like. just walking up to people in the store. and doing [ __ ] to them. I don't I don't. understand it. Tikki elbowed that kid in. the face. >> You know what? [ __ ] that kid. He's. starting [ __ ] with everybody. I was. >> dude. I mean that's I mean I looked at. that. I'm like that's warranted. I mean. you're in my face. Tell me you're going. to [ __ ] me up. I could do this. >> He said he was going to [ __ ] him up and.

then he got close to him like he was. going to bump into him. >> Yeah. >> Well, I mean and you know what? They. don't even give a [ __ ] cuz they get. clicks. I don't think they give a [ __ ]. They. >> Well, that's because that's because like. they're getting hit by like regular. people. Well, except for the Tiki case, but they're getting hit by regular. people. I'm I'm waiting for the. opportunity [laughter]. to lay these for five on somebody's. chin. >> They'll be the They'll be the first. trying to put somebody out. [laughter]. >> They'll press charges. They'll sue you. Also, you you know, if you knock. somebody out and they fall and hit their. head and die, that's a [ __ ] problem.

>> Yeah, that'll be a problem. >> And that's a real possibility. >> Strangle them and lay them down. >> That liver shot, >> right? But you know, you're not going to. throw body shots. This dummy's got in a. fight with the former UFC heavyweight. champion, the current bare knuckle. boxing champion in the world. >> You dumb asses. >> That was hilarious when I saw this. >> Look, he's just teeing off on dudes. Imagine you getting Andre Arloski's. face. How the [ __ ] do you not know who. he is? First of all, >> again, my point exactly like, how do you. not know who Andre Olowski is? And then. they got their bodyguards next to them.

to try to. >> Shout out to that dude wins bare knuckle. boxing. >> Oh, Alaski is a stud. I mean, he's still. getting after it and he still seems to. enjoy it. >> Like almost 30 years in the game and. he's the guy you kind of wrote off his. chin a while ago and then all a sudden. it's like I never saw a chin make a. comeback. Oh, >> incredible. Freddy Roach said he thought. he could really be a contender if he. just had, you know, proper chin. Like he. said his boxing skills were there. >> Well, I mean there was so many times. where he got clipped. Like the Fedor one. was the wildest.

>> He was winning that fight. >> Yeah, he was. >> Dude, he was good. He got caught in the. middle of a jumping knee. >> Oh, big mistake. >> Laces out moment right there. >> Fedor, that [ __ ] just found ways. to win. He just found ways to win, man. >> Sure did. Remember when uh Randleman, was it Rand. still beat him on his neck? >> Yeah. >> Then he korted him. >> Yeah. Like ain't. >> easy to kore a gorilla. You know what. I'm saying? >> Randomman was so explosive. He was so. fast. >> That guy was just nothing but fast.

twitch muscle fiber. You saw the. [laughter] 100 100, >> right? >> He had the worst staff I've ever seen in. my life. >> He had holes in his armpit where he lift. his armpit up and [clears throat] you. could see the the skin was gone. You can. see the tendons and all the ligaments. underneath it. >> See if you can find it, Jamie. It is the. craziest thing cuz staff, if you don't. get that [ __ ] treated right away and you. let it get systemic, >> I mean, it probably led to his early. demise. It probably was something that. led to him dying early. Rest in peace. Look at that. That's his armpit. That's.

his armpit, dude. Keep his. >> keep his [ __ ] wallet in there. >> You know how crazy that is? [laughter]. You know how crazy that kind of hole is. and what that does to your body? >> God damn. >> Cuz it's not even when that heals up. Like, it's going to take a long time. before your body gets back to normal. >> Man, staff's scary, man. Staff's real. scary. >> Oh, come on, man. We're going to. Italian. >> I want to say [clears throat]. [laughter]. >> Pete Sprat fought a fight when he had. Didn't he fight one? He got bit by a. brown recluse. Like his leg had a.

[ __ ] hole in it. >> Well, those are scary. Those [ __ ]. >> Damn. They necrotize you. They like. their their venom burns a hole through. your muscle tissue. >> Oh, it's horrible. You ever see brown. recluse spider bites? >> No. >> They It's like first it just swells up. and you get like a big zit on it and. then it eventually eats the tissue. underneath the venom. [ __ ] spiders. >> Yeah, you got to get that treated right. away. And even then it's like really. dangerous. People die from it. Brown. reclus are scary [ __ ] spiders. See if. you can find brown recluse spider.

injury. >> Nasty, dude. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. [clears throat] Creepy little. [ __ ] bugs out there. >> Think I'm going to get the eggplant roll. aini later on. [laughter]. We'll see what else we have. >> I just want to show you one more gross. thing and then we can move on. >> Land. [laughter]. Like. >> dang. >> Yeah. Look at that [ __ ] man. >> Come on, man. Was that a water balloon? [laughter]. >> Burns burns a hole in you. >> This is like. >> Yeah. Where do those things live at? I. don't want to get bit by that. >> Texas.

>> They're all over the place. >> They're all over the place. It's We're. so lucky they're little. >> Oh, you got that [ __ ] out here. Those. things. But imagine that was as big as a. bear. >> Yeah. >> Imagine a praying man is as big as a. bear. >> Dude, in Long Island, I guess we just. got some [snorts] [ __ ] out there, but we don't got to worry about [ __ ]. [laughter]. We don't got to worry about no [ __ ]. things getting our flesh off and [ __ ]. >> Just a few serial killers. Yeah, a few. serial killers, [laughter]. guys wearing white beaders, that's it.

>> I was just watching this video where. they said the most popular job for. serial killer is those long range. truckers. >> Makes sense. >> Yeah. >> I mean, you got I mean, you're on the. road, got a lot of access to a lot of. different people. >> Yeah. And also, you think you just. >> keep it moving. Keep it moving. >> Keep it moving. Yeah. >> Before they even know what happened, you're gone. >> Yeah. >> There's a bunch of them that are linked. potentially to the long range truckers. that they've never solved. >> Really? Yeah, they don't catch a lot of. those guys. That's what's [ __ ] up. You. want to think like that life's like a.

movie. >> where they catch where they catch them. all in the end. >> But random killers are some of the. hardest to catch cuz they just show up, kill somebody, leave. And there's no. rhyme or reason to it. They just wanted. to kill somebody. So there's no like. motive. >> It's hard to tell. And if they've done. it and not gotten caught for a few. years, if they're clever like a lot of. these guys, like the Zodiac Killer, he. was brilliant. He wrote things in code. They had the I don't even know if they. ever cracked all of it. They never They. still don't know who the [ __ ] it was. >> They did that movie. >> Yeah, I saw I saw that movie, right?

>> Yeah, they kind of made it like it was. the Janetti guy. >> I don't think they know. I mean, unless. there's some new data, unless there's. some new information. I think it's an. unsolved mystery, but he was obviously. brilliant. So, you got a really smart. guy who's just randomly killing people. and he's also taunting you with letters, leaving letters behind. It's got to be a. little more difficult now with all the. cameras and [ __ ]. >> What has John Dunn ever been up to? Does. he have an. [laughter] alibi from Gho Beach? Was he. in New York at that time?

>> The dark lord trying out new techniques. >> Yeah, it's [ __ ] [laughter] great. >> All right, boys. Should we wrap this up? >> Man, good times. >> Oh, one more thing. We should probably. talk about uh the White House card. >> Oo, >> yeah. Like. >> you going? >> Yeah. Unless things get crazy. >> between now and then. But the idea of. them fighting outside in Washington DC. in the middle of the summer, >> nice humidity and heat, crazy to me. You.

ask someone to dehydrate themselves, to. cut weight, you know, I mean, think. about uh Gachi. Gachi is going to cut. He's got to cut to get to 55. Ilia. probably doesn't have to cut too much, but you're fighting for the world title. and you're fighting outside. That's. >> the noon. The noon time has now been. corrected, which makes more sense. >> We get good weather. >> So, it the the pay-per-view or the main. card starts at 8:00 p.m. Eastern. >> Hey, I was in the middle. I was in Abu. Dhabi when they did that. >> That's a little better, but also.

[laughter] me as it can rain. >> It could easily rain. There's going to. be bugs. >> Imagine getting lit up by mosquitoes. while while you're mounting a guy and. you hear him and you [laughter]. >> will. they put a tent up over the. >> I don't know what they're going to do, >> dude. Back in the day, they'd have King. of Cage. It was like raining out and. [ __ ]. >> It was called wet or something. Wild. Yeah. >> It's a mess. Fights outside are a mess. >> It's a mess. It's a terrible idea. I. hate it. >> There was a couple inches of rain in. that cage. That was a crazy show.

>> If you're fighting in an elite world. championship level, you should be. fighting in a controlled environment. Period. It's already a problem enough to. fight to deal with. >> Why cause the extra factors? >> Yeah. All these variables that you might. not get the best fighter, >> right? And you, it also might severely. impair someone who's had gone through a. big weight cut if it's really hot out. Like I don't know what it's going to be. like, but we looked it up. Wasn't it. last year at that same date? >> Was it I think that was 202 I guess. four, but still it's like. >> it was it was like 100 degrees. Yeah,

dude. I live it there. I live in. Baltimore. >> It'll be hotund. >> Everybody's dealing with the same thing, though. So it's not like somebody's got. something different to deal with, >> right? But it's not fair cuz people deal. with them differently. >> If if you're having world championship. fights where the you're going to decide. who's the best in the world, it should. be in a controlled environment. >> Yeah. >> You know, >> the White House, baby. It's still the. [ __ ] D. We were legal in New York. when I was fighting.

>> and now we're at the [ __ ] White. House. >> It's crazy. It's crazy that they're. doing it. I support all crazy things. So, [laughter]. >> I'm going too. So, >> yeah. Well, yeah. I just Yeah, >> you have to. It's your job. I just Yeah, I just got I just got the call for. clearance. I'm going. So, >> I'll be watching on Paramount Plus. >> Yeah, >> Jimmy wanted to go. He's like, can we. go? I'm like. [laughter]. >> I'm like. outside in the audience. That's the. question. >> I don't know like how many people are. going to Is it going to be a round.

thing? >> Well, apparently I think on on. Saturday's broadcast they're going to. announce like how it's going to look. M. >> So, like that's part of I think part of. the allure for watching Saturday shows. They're going to announce how it's. supposed to look. >> It's exciting though. You got to say, "Fuck it.". >> It's crazy. It's definitely crazy. Only. this president would do it. >> Yeah. >> Oh, >> this card you saying this card coming. out Saturday? Oh, yeah. Saturday is a. very good card. >> I'm telling you, the Makonov and Paulo.

Costa was the one that I got my eye on. I'm like, that could be very. interesting. Mhm. >> It' be very interesting cuz Paulo is a. big [ __ ] middleweight. It might do. him good later in his career to go up to. light heavyweight. >> I think so. >> Mer. he's only 5'10". >> Yeah. He's he's short. >> Yeah. >> Oh, he's got weight to cut, too. I mean, he's not exactly he ain't he ain'tow, you know. >> No, no, no. Not even close. He's. definitely carries much more body fat on. him. But. >> who has he fought that's close? Has he. fought anybody? >> Rockage. Stopped Rockage first round his.

last fight. >> That's it. Um, but he hasn't. It's been. hard for him to get fights. They made. Dana a little taller there. >> Yeah, but they put [laughter] they put. light in this since this the only thing. he said would stop the fight. >> Yeah. Well, that could be it. >> Yeah, that would suck. Imagine if. someone died from getting hit by. lightning. >> Yeah, that raise their hand up at the. end of the fight and they get hit by. lightning. [laughter]. >> That'd be a bad look for the UFC, I. think. >> I just don't Bruce Buffer gets it. I I I. like the idea on paper, but the fact.

that I'm gonna be there, >> sequin jacket attracted the lights. >> Jesus Christ, this is going to be crazy. Pro people are probably gonna protest. it. It's going to be nuts. >> Yeah, it's going to be a lot of. protesters out there. Well, >> for sure. going to come and protest cuz it's going. to be a lot of proTrump people in that. audience. It could be a mess. >> Well, that's what they like. You know, a. lot of people that are running this. world like when there's fights and. chaos. They like rioting and they'll. connect it to Trump and they'll spin it.

and connect it to whatever the [ __ ] they. want to. >> I just want to see some good fights. Sir. Gan and Pereira is a very good fight. >> Very good fight. Very [clears throat]. interesting fight. >> Just because of Gan poking everybody in. their eyes, I'd be happy to see him. lose. But he's I mean the size is real. and and he's got legit skills. >> Legit skills. That tie to Iasa fight. remember those combinations he was. sitting tie with. >> Mhm. >> Acting skills also KO on Netflix. >> Uh setting up the south lawn will begin. one month out compared to a few days out.

normal arena. Uh Dana and Donald will. have 200 tickets each to assign to who. they want. 84 from each will be chosen. for a VIP event inside the White House. prior to the fights. Most of the rest of. the tickets will go to military. personnel. The event will have custom. fight kits for all fighters on the card. Wow. >> And then more to come Saturday with. >> more to come Saturday. So, there'll probably be an announcement. at the UFC that we'll have to talk. about. Should be interesting. >> Nobody's given Justin a chance here. >> Justin's a [ __ ] animal, dude. I mean,

I love And look how technical he fought. when he had to fight phys. And he's a. very technical fighter. >> Yeah. If you go by the way fought Patty, he kind of just walked Patty down. He. just like was just I'm going to create. chaos. >> But you also got to kind of give Patty a. little break where he did get poked in. the [ __ ] eye early. And and more. Did. he get more once more than. >> I mean I I think too Gage fought with. staff to pretty much everybody thought. so. I mean. >> put that thing on his neck. Yeah. >> He said it wasn't an ingrown air. >> I mean he can say you know he's not.

going to tell everybody he's got staff. before the fight. >> He could say it after the fight. He. looked good though. >> You know. >> he's a [ __ ] animal too. >> He he and the only reason I think that. is he don't really get tired and he. seemed like he's mentally so tough he. just pushed through the tired. But you. could see he was he was fatigued at the. end of that fight. Well, he's a a. complicated riddle on the feet, too. He's He's a good standup fighter, man. I. mean, when he knocked out Dustin with. that head kick, he's [ __ ]. >> Oh, yeah. He's [ __ ] He's [ __ ]. good. >> I'm I'm a GI fan. >> Love to see him do it.

>> And in the early days, man, he was one. of the wildest guys to watch ever. That. Michael Johnson fight was madness. Just. madness. >> Was a pretty crazy. >> He just just goes, "Let's jump off the. cliff together." [laughter]. >> They did a The Louise there, right? Yeah. I mean, that's what he does in. those fights, man. And he was one of the. best early in his career at throwing leg. kicks from really close. >> distance. He he got away from that. I wonder why. he got away from that. >> Could be injured shins, you know, could. be knocked a lot of guys out with his.

hands. Just wanted to do that more. I. mean, I thought that was one of his. greatest weapons is being so close to. just crazy like a weird flexibility of. the hips to be able to do that and. generate power from in close. >> with what the the right hand or the. kick. He'll do it in a collar tie and kick you. >> nuts and with power. Yeah, >> definitely has a chance. I mean, >> you know, I mean, people will just kind. of not even give him a shot. I'm like,

>> that's how good I. >> Yeah. No, I get it. He gets he gets hit. a lot and they're just putting the. equation together, [laughter] you know, >> like Ilia, man. Ilia's got that one. punch. >> It's look at the guys he's done it to, you know, Vulcganowski, >> Charles Mow. in a row. Brian Hall, >> three KOs in a row against world. champions. That's crazy. guys who not. who are not used to getting like. >> not like but you know think about how.

durable Charles is. >> for him just one shot like that take him. out that's crazy that's crazy. >> for Max I mean Max did well in the first. round. >> he did. >> but until he got hit. >> never been knocked out. >> he's a different dude it's you know. there's levels that this game achieves. as people get better and better and. better and watch everyone around them. and Ilia is like this is the next. highest level right you know. >> now everybody's shooting for that boys. A lot of fun. >> Good time to do it again. I love when we. do this. >> It's so fun. This is some of my favorite.

podcast. >> I love coming out here. It's such a good. time. >> And also, I need to find out what's. going on in the nerd world. [laughter]. >> If you want to find out what's going on. in the nerd nerd world, Matt Sarah. channel on YouTube. I talk all about. that geek [ __ ] That's it. Sometimes I. play VR and I do movie reactions where. it's like the mystery science theater. where I talk to this kid. >> Talk [ __ ]. >> Yeah. I talked to her during the movie a. lot like Dean, what do you got going on? >> Uh my movie Flowers short film coming. out and I got a new show on Paramount.

Plus called Deep Waters with Jorge. Mazvidal, Chris Weidman and Dustin. Porier that starts next Monday. Every. Monday the theme I like the name Deep. Waters coming out. >> Yeah. And we're still doing ground. control. Just opened a school in. Sykesville. Dustin Porier is actually. coming out to there in uh the uh spot. next door to a stratosphere on May 16th. Showun still going. So uh ground. controlusa.com, showunfights.com and be. more MMA.

>> Look at you, bro. Promoter, coach, gym. owner, >> hustling, hustling, >> hustling. All right. Thank you. Thank. you guys. Always fun. Bye, guys. >> [music].