JRE MMA Show #169 - Protect Ya Neck

Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. >> The Joe Rogan Experience. >> Train by day. Joe Rogan podcast by. night. All day. You. >> good? We're up. We're up. >> What? >> Hi guys. >> We're back. >> It's like getting pulled over by the. cops. The window rolls down. Cops start. >> What the [ __ ] are you doing? >> [ __ ] I took I took one hit of that. [ __ ] That [ __ ] was strong as hell. I.

feel high already. >> That's good for you, D. It's good for. you. Opens your mind. >> It's the right stuff. >> Yeah. There's some talk about uh Trump. legalizing marijuana now. >> That would be amazing. >> I mean, it kind of feels like it is. legal right now. >> Well, it should be. It's so stupid. It's. so We're I can't believe we're still. dealing with this. I mean, I would have. thought by the time I just turned 58. I. would have thought by the time I'm 58, we would have figured this out, right? Can I tell you when I with my ulcerative. colitis it always we always start with. my ass for some reason but with my. ulcerative colitis after my colonoscopy.

one time the doctor's like well there's. this pill you could take it it could. affect your liver but not for many years. like not for now this was when I was. like 39 I'm 51 now I I'd be I'd be going. to Columbia for stem cells for my. [ __ ] liver at this point so what I do. is the natural stuff and it does help me. just it just helps and I don't have to. that's not [ __ ] with my liver. >> It would it would take the place of so. many different pharmaceutical drugs and.

that's a big part of the problem. The. other part of the problem is the alcohol. industry. >> Oh yeah, that would suffer for sure, right? >> Yeah. And they've done studies. They. know and they lobby. They they they work. on it hard. They do not want marijuana. becoming legalized in the in the whole. nation. >> Alcohol is way worse. an age-old conversation, but. >> well, the real big problem is who's. selling if if it's illegal, the cartel, >> right? >> You know, I've I've talked about this. before, if you've heard it before, I'm.

sorry, but there's a guy named John. Norris who's been on the podcast before, who was a game warden. He wrote a book. called Hidden War. He was a game warden. in California, you know, just a guy who. checks fishing licenses and [ __ ] He. like live he loves the woods, loves. being outdoors. Oh, he came on. >> He came upon a [ __ ] cartel grow op in. the middle of the national forest. And. then they realize, oh no, this is what. they do. They go deep into the woods in. public land and they set up a grow op. and they got [ __ ] AKs and they got, you know, the Virgin Mary photos that.

they pray to at night. It's crazy. Like. full-on campsites filled with cartel. dudes. They they started turning into a. tactical team. So this guy had to get. Belgian Malamis and bulletproof vests. and they're getting shootouts with the. cartels in the middle of the woods. >> Thought he was signing up to be a park. ranger and he's out [ __ ] Yeah. >> Hear people's fish stories like how'd. you get this one, you know? No, he's. [ __ ] getting shootouts. >> because with the cartels when California. made their laws where you could have.

legalized recreational marijuana, >> what they also did was if you grow it. illegally, it's only a misdemeanor. M. >> so the cartel could just grow in it's a. misdemeanor deal and if they catch. people that are illegals up there they. don't do [ __ ] like so it's the perfect. spawning ground. >> for cartel grow ops and what he was. saying at the time he was here which was. a couple of years back but he was saying. that it was as much as 80% of the. marijuana I think that that was the.

number in the country in places where. it's illegal is coming from these dudes. and they're using all these crazy. pesticides and herbic that are totally. illegal, [ __ ] super toxic [ __ ] [ __ ]. that's outlawed on farms in America, but. they but it's effective and so they're. using it. So you're getting this weed. that's infected with these pesticides. and herbic there's no rules, man. It's. it's illegal weed. If they had it legal, you could have inspectors who could. check the [ __ ] fac the f the farms.

and the factories. It'd be just like. alcohol. If alcohol was illegal, we'd be. all be [ __ ] We'd be drinking. moonshine. No one would know. You know. what I mean? [ __ ] a nice glass of wine. You're you're drinking [ __ ] straight. up alcohol. Nasty [ __ ] because that's. all that's available. >> And that's what people are doing right. now. It's dumb. It it it empowers the. the people that are criminals. >> Well, you said it before. It's it's the. money. They're going to affect the the. big pharma. And we all have seen, you.

know, from COVID what the hell kind of. power big pharma has. Yeah, they're. worried about it, but I think the. alcohol people are worried more. >> The alcohol people got us twice. They. were fighting. Remember, they fought MMA. hard too, Bud Light. >> Did they. cause boxing? You know, >> kind of crazy that Bud Light became a. sponsor years later. >> How long did the uh prohibition last. for? >> Prohibition on alcohol. That's a good. point. I think it was 10 years. Was it. 10 years, Jamie? >> Must have been a rough [ __ ] 10 years, >> bro. It had to be crazy.

>> Yeah, right. But that's where that's. where the organized crime got all their. money. 13 years. Yeah. That's where Nash. 13 [ __ ] years. For 13 [ __ ] years, alcohol was illegal in this country. You. know how crazy that is? A grown man. telling you you can't have a drink. >> Who the hell? Same thing. Want to smoke? What's the problem with that? >> Exactly the same thing. >> It's It's weird. >> Exactly the same thing. We're just. delusional about it. And we put it under. the label drug, which is alcohol. Alcohol is a drug, dummy. It's all drug. >> Everything's a drug. There's a lot of.

drugs. Caffeine is a drug. >> Yeah, exactly. We're drinking espresso. We just stop it. It's just knowing how. to use each drug. And the only way you. know how to use it is is if people are. honest. >> And if they do studies, you have actual. scientists who aren't being paid off to. come up with some sort of negative or. positive result. >> You know, that's what it's supposed to. be. >> Yeah. >> For all of us, it's all just [ __ ]. co-opted by money. >> Enforce it. Never heard that. Maryland. didn't infor.

state by the way. How crazy is that, >> right? >> Also home of ground control. >> Hey guys, I guess I missed the knew you. met Sarah. >> Yeah, this was a totally known you for. 30 years. >> I know. We didn't talk about this at. all. >> Well, I saw Matt wore his last time and. I said, "Well, that's it. The green. light. I'm shamelessly self-promoting.". And then Dean came down. I go, "Motherfucker, I got a good man." He. goes, "I got to represent." And then you. came in with it. So literally talk about.

it. >> I know. That's crazy. >> I feel like I'm left out of the loop. here. >> I know. I wish we had some extras. Mark. [ __ ] I had an extra one, too. You know. what's so funny? I had one that was. still in the package and I was like, "Should I bring this?" I'm like, "No, I. don't need this.". >> I think you should have. >> I should have. like that was like the universe telling. me that you needed one of these shirts, right? And I I ignored it. >> That's great. >> I'm talking about stuff that's good for. you and I've been telling you I've been. eating a ton of [ __ ] pizza and I.

still got ads. >> Oh, here it comes. >> Here comes the Sarah. >> Listen, can I tell you I'm pooping on. me? >> I can see it in Midtown right now. >> Can I tell you now that I'm so proud of. this? I don't like to brag a little bit. Yeah, a little bit. Dean does. I know a. little bit. But on Long Island, we have. three champions. four if you include. Morab, you know, he's adopted by us. >> Chris Weidman has his own day in Long. Island. Almaine Sterling has his own.

day. >> I'm not buttth hurt about having my own. not my not having my own day, but I have. something better. Thank you, Talios from. Asipek Park and Minnola. I have my own. Sarah slice. It's the best [ __ ] It'll. knock your dick off. It's the best. slice. I put it up against any slice. >> That's right. that you could that you. that you give me and the reason being. listen. >> listen this kid Rob there he is my buddy.

Rob oh he's talking about it. >> UFC legend. >> I'm going to show you guys how we make. the Sarah. >> have our Roman shell here we're going to. go down with our grande. >> no moisture look at this. >> mozzarella this is a very simple. >> pizza nice stripes. >> of Our chiao tomato sauce imported. from Italy. >> Imported from Italy. >> Sea salt, basil, and olive oil. That is.

my recipe for my tomato sauce. No sugar. Stop putting sugar in your sauce. And we. have our beautiful housemade vak sauce. We make it with the armor. >> I'm getting a hold on. Tell us the. pizza. >> Tell them where the dough comes from. Matt down with some. >> kaputo. Caputo flour from Italy Romano. >> No broate, no preservatives. >> Sicilian oregano. We have some beautiful. fjord latte fresh mozzarella. >> Come on, man. Just like to break up.

>> Just wait for the [ __ ] pesto. >> on top. >> Wait for the pesto. >> Sarah, super simple. Going in the oven. about 8 minutes. >> Look at this [ __ ] thing. Look at this. [ __ ] thing. >> This is one of the best advertisements. for carbs I've ever seen. You got no. chlorine, no bleach. >> And I tell you, this the only green I. eat. I eat that [ __ ]. >> rated pecorino. >> Ready? Wait for the. >> of course. >> Oh, the money shot.

[ __ ] go, Rob. >> The pesto. >> Take a bite, >> guys. I'm so I'm so proud. >> Sarah, come get it now. Both locations. Call your pizza. >> You Thank you. Thank you, Rob. >> That's the first time you'll ever see. Matt's mouth shut. >> I'm so happy. >> So good. We got to go, dude. >> Man, why you didn't bring us none, >> dude? It can I tell you, I'm there all. the [ __ ] time. I my the my podcast.

I'm doing, I found the first shop near. Miniola train station and I'm like, this. [ __ ] shit's ridiculous, you know? And. then the guy happens to be a fan of the. Fighting Rob. >> So then he's like, look, I'm opening up. another spot, dude, in Mass Pique Park. Dude, that's 5 minutes from my house. This is meant to be. >> True. >> It's [ __ ] meant to be. And now he's. training now, Rob. So. >> that's awesome. >> Talio's pizza. The G is silent like. lasagna. And uh I I just I'm so happy. >> That is the number one problem with any.

of that carnivore diet [ __ ]. >> That's the number one number one problem. is pizza. >> Pizza. No doubt. >> Italian subs. >> He was telling me that it's not even. legal in Europe to have the bromate. I. didn't know what the [ __ ] broate was. Yeah. >> He goes, "It's stuff they put in the in. the uh the dough to make it last longer. and this and that.". >> This kid has such balls where he started. important twice as much for a flower of. caputo caputo flour. Dude, I don't know. much. I know a lot about you. I'm not. espresso. He tells me the whole thing.

about. >> You feel different if you eat that. flour. >> I'll eat this [ __ ] on the way to go. train at my school. And I I'm not doing. that with Pro. No offense. I'm not doing. that with other He has a It's so good. Potassium bromate, a flour additive used. to strengthen dough, may have potential. health risks. While it's legal in the. US, it's banned in many other countries. due to concerns about its potential. carcinogenic effects. Studies have. linked it to kidney and thyroid cancers. in animals. Well, [ __ ] duh. And it's. been associated with genotoxic and.

nephrotoxic effects in both animal. models and humans. Acute symptoms from. ingestion can include nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and abdominal pain. And they. put this in our flower. Dude, that's. what I'm saying. >> Causes changes in DNA and potentially. lead to mutations. >> Guys, >> what the [ __ ] I'm. >> telling you, man. >> Look at that [ __ ] statement. >> That's crazy, >> dude. That's why, man. I. >> notice its place at the end.

>> Give this kid so much credit. Nobody. does this. People can get that far. They. can import the flower. It's just more. But this kid's killing it. And it's. [ __ ] And it's it's such a difference, man. They say when you go to Italy and. you come back and you're eating all that. [ __ ] and you come back, you're not fat. It's that [ __ ] It's the flour, man. And. he makes the heroes out of the same. flour. >> Jamie, do you remember that video that I. sent you about that dude breaking down. exactly what's in flour and why it [ __ ]. us up? >> Do you remember that video? >> You'll find it. The dude with the hat on. who's the health expert is a young guy.

and he does an amazing job of breaking. down the difference between our flower. and their flower. And you see, you get. so upset. you like this is so crazy you. guys let them do this to us. >> like the whole banned in other countries. but legal here. How's that possible? >> Crazy. You would think why are we. putting up with this [ __ ]. >> Why? Why? Yeah. Why would It's cuz it's. slow poison. >> It's not like alcohol is like whoa. You. feel it the next day like oh my god. Pizza is just a slow poison. A slow.

poison without poison dough. >> It weighs you down. But this is the. weigh you down. >> It would be just as good. just as good. in in terms of how you feel when you eat. it. Just as good flavor-wise, just not. [ __ ] kill you. >> Explain to me why I can eat bread in. Spain and in I can in Greece, Italy, no problem. Why I was glut gluten-free. in 15 years I've been gluten-free in uh. Canada, America.

Can't eat it. That's because in America, what we call bread can't even be. considered food in parts of Europe. See, here in America, it's not so much the. gluten as what we've done to the grain. About 200 years ago, we started. stripping the brain and germ or the. fiber and nutrients to make flour shelf. stable, also nutritionally dead. Because. the nutrients were gone, we enriched it. with folic acid, which a large majority. of the population can't even metabolize. Therefore, many people experienced. fatigue, anxiety, hyperactivity, and. inflammation. But then the bread wasn't. white enough, so they bleached it with.

chlorine gas, and the bread didn't rise. enough. So they added a carcinogen. called potassium bromate which is banned. in several countries like Europe, the. UK, and even China. Then we wanted to. ramp up production. So we started using. glyphosate to dry out the wheat before. harvest causing endocrine disruption and. damaging your gut. So now you're. bloated, brain fog, tired, and blamed. gluten. But gluten is just the. scapegoat. The real issue is. ultrarocessed, chemically altered, bleached, bromated, fake vitamin filled. wheat soaked in glyphosate. This isn't. bread. This is. >> Wow. >> Neon sign up in his thing. No bleach, no.

bromate. >> That's amazing, >> dude. I got [ __ ] abs still and I can. eat pizza. It's like heaven. >> He's at the right time now, too, because. people are starting to be made aware, you know? >> Yeah. It's Yeah. And you can blame it on. gluten all you want, but it go eat pizza. in Italy. Give it a shot. >> Yeah. >> You feel good. >> It's like I'm doing that every day. >> Pasta there. >> Yeah. It's pasta there's incredible. There's a few places on. >> how I cheat here on pasta. Like at back. home, Deep Easqualies is the big Italian. spot. And uh they have you can get.

ricotta nokis. So they're made with. ricotta cheese and you know it's like. maybe five grams of carbs in a thing of. uh of noi. >> Yeah, you could cheat it out. But if you. really want to get [ __ ] blasted with. some carbs. Lasagna will do you in. Lasagna will do you in. Oh my god. There's something about Italian food. when I'm really hungry. I just can't. help it. I don't care about my diet. [ __ ]. >> the sauces and all that stuff. >> Yeah, it gets you. It gets you, you. know. Joe D. Rosa, the comedian.

>> Yeah, he told he's got a place called. Joey Roses. It's a sandwich shop. And. Joey Roses, they import all their flour. >> That's the thing. >> And it's the same thing. They they make. their bread fresh every day and they. throw it out at the end of the day. They. never use stale bread and they never use. any preservatives. And he's like, that's. the difference. Like you can eat these. sandwiches and you feel good. >> It's crazy that that's rare. Isn't that. weird? >> That should not be how you consume food. You know what I'm saying? Like you. should be feeling good after eat all the. time. >> Yeah. We're [ __ ] poisoning ourselves. And the fact that it's illegal in China.

and all these other places, like how. would they're more corrupt than them? >> That's crazy. >> I mean, that was part of it, too. When. you talk about the trade imbalances, some of our food not being able to go. over there was just the fact that they. wouldn't allow the food. >> cuz it's not even food. Exactly. >> It's not even legal. That broate and. [ __ ] in there. It's [ __ ] crazy, man. >> It's [ __ ] up that we're feeding that. to our kids. And these regulators knew. about it. They knew about it for a long. time and they if you're in that business. is that's your business, you [ __ ].

know what's going on. And you guys let. them just do that to people for profit. because they can make more money this. way. >> But also, there's a problem with feeding. [ __ ] 300 million people. >> That's a problem. Any disruptions to the. food source is a [ __ ] a dangerous. thing cuz no one's growing [ __ ]. >> you know? We're all relying on someone. else to do the growing work. And then. what are we doing? >> We're [ __ ] going to these farms and. catching all the people that are doing.

the work. >> and then and deporting which is like. whoa. >> we need that. >> bro. We can't do anything right. >> Yeah, >> we can't do anything right. >> Be a little fair about the bromate. stuff. It's been used since 1923 and the. FDA has been telling people to stop. using it since 1991. >> Wow. They were telling people to stop. using it, but they didn't tell them they. have to stop using it. >> Well, they urge it's up to people to do. whatever they want in America. >> But in America, is it the only place. that uses it? >> I don't know about only Canada.

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>> you know that one cousin and. >> he text you later and you're like Jesus. Christ. [Laughter]. >> We all got that one cousin, right? He's. just like, "Yo, man, >> he wants to talk to you about communist. theory." Like, come on, you [ __ ]. >> Yeah, relax. >> Shut shut up. They're finding people for. walking in the woods. You hear about. that? >> Where? >> In Saskatchewan. Is that where it is, Jamie? >> I have no idea. >> Walking in the woods? >> Yeah. This guy got fined tw They They. told you that if you get caught in the. woods because it's so hot out. They're. worried about wildfires. There's no.

wildfires, but they're worried about. wildfires. Every year you worry about. wildfires. So to combat this, they find. people $28,000. >> to walk into the woods. >> That's a lot of money. >> And one guy did it. One guy like, "Fuck. you. I'm going to the woods." And then. he went viral. Of course, >> man. >> Which is a good move. Probably going to. $28,000 move. >> They're putting uh thousands of people. in jail for social media posts. >> Oh, yeah. No, banana stuff. These. fuggets getting everybody's going. communist.

>> Yeah. One one person put this uh. Facebook post or something like that. critical of immigrants and saying they. come over here and rape and murder our. women. And because of putting that up on. Facebook, this person got 20 months in. jail. >> Absolutely. [ __ ]. >> 20 months. in the UK. >> In the UK. >> It's [ __ ] really easy, dude. Bunch of. sensitive [ __ ] They've arrested my. friend Constantine Kissen from uh. Trigonometry the podcast. He's the one. who first told me about all this cuz he.

he had this conversation with this guy. where he said, "How many people do you. think get arrested for uh social media. posts in Russia?" And you know, he tells. him what the number is. It's like it's. like about 400. Like, whoa, wow. He. goes, "How many people do you think get. arrested for social media posts in the. UK?". >> And the guy was like, "What?" He was. like, "It's 4,000. Damn. True. Like, what would the charge. be for posting something? They don't. have freedom of speech like we do, >> dude. They I actually saw like a police.

cam video where the [ __ ] the cop was. telling them that Yeah, but your post. offended like it's like, what the [ __ ]. do you mean I'm going to jail cuz my. post offended someone? Like, get the. [ __ ] out of here. >> A man, what is this, Jamie? A man has. been jailed uh for Facebook pou. encouraging violence. He's been jailed. for 20 months for encouraging people on. social media to attack a hotel in leads. housing more than 200 migrants. >> So is this the same guy, Jamie?

>> I googled man jailed in UK for a. Facebook post 20 months. This is what. came up. >> Interesting. >> Well, that's that's Google funneling you. to what they want you to see. Oh, he was. talking about violence. >> Oh, >> no. But I'm not sure. I mean, maybe he. was talking about violence. I mean, this. guy obviously was I would I'm willing to. wager there were more. >> where the the where the whatever the guy. with the wig is. What are they what are. they called over there? >> Yeah, right. >> They wear the wigs. The dude, if you. could find the video, Jimmy, the guy's.

fullon wearing the. >> wig. >> A wig like a George Washington. >> Yeah. >> And so he reads the Facebook post that. this guy made, you know, which wasn't. nice. But then, you know, then he says. like, "For this egregious crime, I. sentence you to 20 months of detention.". And even the word the wording they use. is weird. It wasn't like detention. It. was like a a weird euphemism for [ __ ]. jail. He's on timeout. >> Yeah, it was it was it was weird. listening to him talk. It was super.

dystopian. >> Says he's got a custodial sentence and. he only has to serve half of it. Oh, so. to serve 10 months in a prison. >> for doing for making a post on Facebook. Can you find the video, Jamie? >> Well, I I sure. >> find the video cuz it's I just It's kind. of funny when you see the guy's wig like. they have to wear the wig. >> That's like the move over there. The old school powdered wigs. >> Wasn't it back in the day that they used. to wear them to hide [ __ ]. >> from No, it was syphilis. You were. losing weight.

>> Yeah, they were. Yeah, that's where the. term big wig comes from cuz the richest. people got the biggest wigs, they all. got syphilis. So this is what happened. They came over to America, right? When. the like the in the 1492 days. >> Yeah. >> When they came back, they brought. syphilis and syphilis just going rampant. through these European cultures and. these these people. >> So syphilis came from here and then went. back there. >> This is the thought. So there's. different types of syphilis, but they're. pretty sure there's some evidence that.

indicates that one type of syphilis was. transferred from Native American. populations to Europeans. Native. Americans who had already had a. resistance to it, just like we had a. resistance to smallox and the flu when. the Europeans came over here and that's. what the Indians didn't and that's why. they got wiped out. Well, they didn't. have a resistance to this kind of. syphilis. This is like hole in your. face. Your [ __ ] your your hair falls. out. This is the guy. Listen to this. [ __ ]. You did not want your money going to. immigrants who quote rape our kids and.

get priority. End quote. This offense is. so serious that an immediate custodial. sentence is unavoidable. Would you. stand, please? The sentence that I pass has been. reduced by 1/3 to reflect your guilty. plea. The sentence is one of 20 months. imprisonment. Say that you didn't. >> This guy said he didn't want his money. going to immigrants and went to jail.

This wasn't somebody threatening. violence. They edited the post, so we. don't know what else, >> right? There was an edit. I was going to. point that out. There's there was a. there's something there. So, this here's. the thing, too. Whenever it's possible. for something like this to exist, whenever it's possible, there's going to. be a bunch of people from other. countries that edit stuff to make you. more mad at the people in the UK. Like. there's there's they're doing China does. that in America. There's a lot going on. with social media and these kind of.

clips and posts and stuff. There's a lot. more going on than makes sense. >> People always [ __ ] about America, but. look at that [ __ ] You know what I mean? They're not locking anybody up over here. yet. >> You can't [ __ ] about America in. comparison if you you if you the whole. rest of the world is way worse in terms. of what you're how you're able to. express yourself, the consequences of. expressing yourself. Like. >> this is a pretty good spot. It's just. not perfect. >> It's a cool thing. And it feels weird. now that it's like the younger.

generation. Everybody's like they just. like it feels cool to say like [ __ ]. America. Like people are like, "You wear. an American shirt, they just think. you're a [ __ ] MAGA guy or something.". It's like, dude, well, you can't be. proud of where you're from. You're from. America. You can't be proud of your. country. >> America is everything. It's it's all the. things, you know? It's just we're so. tribalized and we have to get over that. That's the the number one problem is. people decide that there's people that. they hate and they hate everything about. them and then okay, now you got 50% of. the country that you can't associate.

with that's not on your team. like what. did you do? And so, well, now you have. to justify everything your team believes. in, including [ __ ] that doesn't make any. sense and [ __ ] that is probably immoral, you know, especially when it get you get. into like trans kids surgeries and [ __ ]. like that. You have to sign off on that. because if you don't, then you're. signing off on these right-wing bigots. that want to [ __ ] you know, put the. Bible in every Yeah. You get You're a. Nazi. >> It's like we're It's bad. Both both.

[ __ ] versions are bad of both sides. when you're looking at it from the other. side because it's all cartoonish because. most people live in the middle of [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> I mean I mean I I feel that's 100% true. Most people are in the middle. I I I. think you made like the point you made. earlier too. >> You're getting just fired through the. algorithm. You know the [ __ ] that pisses. you off if that's what you're clicking. on all day long anyway. So, it just. drives that wedge deeper and deeper, I. think, because they're just inundated. 24/7. Like, sometimes you just got to.

stop and get outside or watch a TV show. to decompress. >> That's the [ __ ] problem, though. You. can't even enjoy I Man, what they did. with Star Wars with the Aculite. You. can't even You can't even enjoy You. can't enjoy I I love the pop culture. I. love movies. I tried to watch The. Electric State, that [ __ ] thing, cuz. I love robots going [ __ ] rogue and. AI. >> What's the Electric State? It it's a a. Netflix movie with Chris Pratt Pratt and. it looked like a big budget. It was by. the Russo brothers who did the Avengers.

and [ __ ] So like I go it's about AI. robots. >> What a I dude what a piece of [ __ ] I. couldn't even get through the opening. and then you know what I don't like? I. don't like when I'm watching a movie and. already I see okay I know who the. director voted for. Like you know what I. mean? They're like they're bringing up the. uprising of the robots and they go and. to celebrate the uh enslavement of the. robots, Kid Rock did a concert to Oh, did he really? Did he really? You.

[ __ ] [ __ ] Can I enjoy this [ __ ]. without Okay, you're on that side. Go. [ __ ] I turned it off. Go. You're. bringing me right out of it cuz you're. showing me like you're taking shots for. the audience to know. Dude, [ __ ] off. I. want to see some alien [ __ ] robots. [ __ ] I want to see I I want to be. entertained. I don't want to know about. your [ __ ] politics. >> I feel like we have political fatigue. though. I feel like most people are. tired of talking about it. Most people. like just stop. >> That's where I'm at. I don't want to. talk about the [ __ ] ever.

>> It's also it's like pretending that one. side is beyond reproach is [ __ ]. ridiculous. And if you're one of those. tribal people, you have to do that. You. have to support your side. And like that. that just gets nuts. You can't do that. There's too many people. There's too. many financial interest. There's too. much money. There's too much [ __ ] going. on. There's too much. >> Why is there bromate in my bread, [ __ ]. >> Number five. >> You [ __ ] have been doing a. terrible job of taking care of us.

>> You're not really taking care of us. We. want to think you're like a cool. counselor or something like that. It's. like looking out for the rest of the. kids that are uh on this camp together, you know? Like our councilman is going. to take care of us. They they got it. They're going to teach us to how to get. through the woods. Meanwhile, they're. just stealing money. >> No, you can't go to the woods. It's a. 28,000 Canada. >> But that's Canada. I mean, but this this. is the problem with places that don't. have the freedoms that we have. Like the. Constitution, our founding fathers, they. nailed it. >> They really did. >> They It's crazy that they nailed that so.

well. They knew human nature so well. that it applies like it's important 300. years later. >> Maybe since they came from a monarchy, you know what I mean? They they gave. them that perspective. They were so. smart. But it I wonder how many of them. were there, right? Like how many like. really well-educated people were around. back then. >> Think about the age. >> Could have been that many. They were. young. It ain't even that many now. Young people, you know, that were. writing this thing. >> Yeah. Some of them were like in their. early 20s. That's middle age, man.

That's a good point. >> That's [ __ ]. That's true. You get an infection back. then, you staff. done by 35 over there. >> Yeah, bro. The syphilis thing is really. nuts, though. But that is why that that. stupid [ __ ] thing that that guy was. wearing on his head. >> So that's the tra uh tradition based off. of syphilis. And they still do this [ __ ]. today. >> Yeah. And the guys with the most money. had the biggest wigs. That's why they. called them big wigs. >> Big wigs. >> It all started with these two brothers. that were royals. Was it brother or a. guy and his cousin? I forget. But the.

these guys who were royals in France and. uh these guys were like, you know, the. socialites. They were the the celebrated. people. and they start losing their hair. because they're freaks, you know? They're probably [ __ ] up a storm over. there and they're catching syphilis and. they got holes in their face and [ __ ]. They smell awful and their [ __ ] hair. is falling out. So, they just get a wig. >> and then other dudes say, "I want to be. like him." So, they got wigs and then a. bunch of people started getting syphilis. and they covered it up with wigs. >> But that's crazy to me that you're. almost celebrating having syphilis by.

getting a bigger wig. >> Well, you know what it is? It's like. you're not celebrating syphilis, but. since everybody's wearing a wig, your. wig is the dopest wig. That's right. You. got to had a dope right now. >> It's crazy that it's all because of of. sexually transmitted diseases. >> wearing that [ __ ]. >> It's crazy. That's our first export. syphilis. >> I think it was smallox, man. Smallox. wiped out the whole country. >> Yeah. >> The whole country. The whole all of. North America was filled with people. They all got killed. It's like 90% of.

the people got killed. >> Yeah. >> Damn. What year? Hold on. What year was. that? This was between the times of the. first settlers to like the 1800s. It was. 90%. >> 90% Native Americans died from disease. that you know Europeans brought. >> And you know that for a long time they. were trying to deny they were trying to. figure out like what happened to the. Mayans. Well, I'll tell you what. happened to the Mayans. >> Disease. Obviously Europeans, they had. this spectacular civilization in Mexico. If you ever go down and you ever go and.

seen any of the ruins? Yeah, I went to I. was in Chichin. >> Yeah, I went there too. Yeah, I went. there too a couple months ago. >> It's amazing. >> Dope. It's dope. Like what were they. what what drugs were these. [ __ ]. >> Yeah. Like how were they building that. [ __ ]. >> I don't know, man. >> A thousand years ago. >> Pretty amazing to see. And even like the. remember that the ball court they had. where you could stand at one end or the. other and you could hear each other. talking and [ __ ] because of the. acoustics. >> and just the the sheer.

size. size of it. >> It's like, wow. >> And then just wiped out by a cough by. dirty, stinky Europeans right off the. boat breathing on everybody. Swept. through the people. No immunity to it. >> It's crazy. That's pretty wild, man. >> It's exactly what happened to the to all. the Amazon, too, man. They're finding. that out now. >> The Amazon was all just disease. >> Damn. Why? They had millions of people. were living in the Amazon. some Europeans went to visit and like I.

forget what year it was but they came. back and had these stories about these. beautiful like cities and filled with. like gold and all this crazy [ __ ] and. then people went back a hundred years. later it was all gone and they said oh. this guy was lying. >> white tourists. >> but it wasn't Yeah. Isn't that crazy? It. wasn't lies. They just So now they use. LAR and they they scan over the top of. the forest and they see like where these. cities used to be. There's so much [ __ ]. over there that they haven't even. uncovered. >> It's just nuts that it's it's just dirty.

diseases. Those first people they. [ __ ] Hey, coming over. and [ __ ] They were hard ass enough to. make it here. You know, they were. bringing some [ __ ] with them. >> Oh, bro. You know how hard people must. have been back then? >> Just to even say, "Okay, I'm going to. try it." When someone says, "Hey, we got. a wood boat and we're going to go out. there. We have no idea if it's where. we're going. I've always give uh. Christopher Columbus credit for that. [ __ ] on a [ __ ] wooden boat in the. middle. Like I can't even [ __ ] find.

directions to get to the [ __ ] apex. half the time. >> But the crazy thing is we give him. credit for landing here and he didn't. even make it here. >> Yeah. >> He landed like the Indies, right? Like. the West Indies. >> This episode is brought to you by. Squarespace. If you got something to. say, sell, or share with the world, you. need a legit online presence. me. I use. Squarespace to power my website. It's. easy to use and with their AI enhanced. website builder and built-in tools for. booking, payments, emails, all of it,

you can actually run your business, not. just build a site. Go to. squarespace.com/rogan. for a free trial. And when you're ready. to launch, use the code roan to get 10%. off your first purchase of a website or. domain. >> Where did Columbus actually land? It was. like near the Bahamas. He wasn't even in. America. Bahamas is. >> Hey, I don't give a [ __ ] where he. landed. That [ __ ] went out into. the ocean 500 years ago on a boat. >> We give him Christopher Columbus Day. here. >> I mean, I'm I'm looking at the Vikings.

These [ __ ]. you know, just conquered the nations. going everywhere. >> So, what does it say here? >> Uh, San Salvador in the Bahamas. Yeah. >> His first landed an island in the. Bahamas. Like, that is not America, [ __ ] You don't get credit for you. don't get credit for discovering. America. >> The Italians are were taking credit. anyway. >> But that's probably when them diseases. started hitting them areas. >> So also that history of small pox goes. back to the sixth century started in.

China. >> Small pox does. >> Yeah. >> Interesting. >> Right. >> So the sixth century and then was it. mostly smallox that killed off the. Native Americans or was it a bunch of. different diseases that we brought with. us? >> Problem. Yeah, there it is. >> 17th century European settlers bring. small box to North America. >> There's an amazing guy named. >> what is that Jamie? >> What they European settlers were here. with Christopher Columbus. That's in the. 16th century, not 17,

>> right? 1500s, >> right? >> He landed in 1492. >> Yeah. 1492. >> That's uh 200 years later almost, >> right? Well, it's probably like how many. people came, you know what I mean? Like. when Christopher Columbus came that was. so this is 1492 he lands in the Bahamas. like. >> years. >> Yeah. How many people got were. interacting with them? You know what I. mean? How many people once they started. coming over here regularly? Like when. did folks started hopping in boats and.

coming over regularly like the early. settlers? >> I wouldn't have did it. How many [ __ ]. way? >> No [ __ ] way. No [ __ ] way. Those. people were animals, man. You're going. to take a chance. >> You This dude knows how to get across. the ocean in a wooden boat using a thing. like a sex where you stare at the stars. and try to figure out where you are and. he's drunk all the time. >> Jamestown was 1607 when that started. >> That's when it started, huh?

Interesting. >> Oh, that's would be. >> So that's probably makes sense for So. like a hundred [ __ ] years they talked. about it. >> Ain't that kind of crazy? >> I like in Vikings. You want to see the. show Vikings? talked about America for a hundred years. before they came over. >> Oh no [ __ ]. >> Yeah. So it's like he lands in the. Bahamas and then a hundred years later. when people started. >> Yeah. then they start the first the. first. >> wonder how long it took him just to get. across. Can you imagine what it would be. like setting up a colony in a new.

country and you know there's people with. bows and arrows waiting for. >> you the first people to set up the. colony. >> They knew they knew that there's [ __ ]. Indians waiting for them. >> Oh yeah. Everybody knew they knew that. this was inhabited and they knew the. type of people they'd come back you know. whe whether it was Columbus's people or. the other who whoever was here came back. and they had all these crazy stories. about you know interacting with also the. craziest stories were from there was a. one of the guys was a priest or.

something some holy man that was. traveling with Columbus who had a. detailed descriptions of the horrific. [ __ ] Columbus and his men did to whoever. the indigenous people were that they. encounter. Oh, horrible [ __ ]. >> Well, they they were saying, "If you. don't bring back your weight and gold, we'll chop off your arms." They were. chopping arms off, dashing babies heads. on rocks. >> Jesus Christ. >> Yeah. They were forcing these people to. bring them gold. There's It's like, do.

you remember that guy's name? Father. something or another. So, he had this. his memoirs of uh his time over there. with Christopher Columbus's people, and. he was like, it was horrific. So these. people that we celebrate, I mean, this. is one thing that the wokesters got. right, >> you know, if you want to celebrate. Christopher Columbus, like Christopher. Columbus, we have Columbus Day, like. >> be careful who you're celebrating. Just. if that father, that priest was telling. the truth. >> You're celebrating a monster. You're. celebrating like a literally like a mass.

murderer who would go to another. >> believable when you think about history. Like, >> bro, that's all they did. >> You mean everybody conquered everybody. at one point or another? >> Yeah. And when there was no internet, you could get away with a lot. Whole A. whole lot. >> A whole lot. >> Yeah. Nobody knew you were coming. You're coming with boats. You're [ __ ]. people up. You're taking all this [ __ ]. And when you land places, you're like, it was like, this is probably the only. time in history where a boat can land in. a place and it's not hostile. In. America, when boats come here, it's.

like, depends on where you land. >> We're go. But for the most part, most. boat travel is not hostile. It's like, oh, look, a big boat full of people. They're going to come eat at our. restaurants and strange people from a. different land are going to come and. enjoy what we have to offer here in. Portugal or wherever you are. >> Some people are counting on that, >> bro. It used to be a boat showed up. You. didn't know. >> It was on your horns. >> Yeah. >> You hear a [ __ ] a shell? >> That's right. >> [ __ ] You got to wake up, put your armor.

on. [ __ ]. >> I can't believe I got to do this. >> Imagine. Just imagine that [ __ ]. >> bro. That's how they live forever. That's how people live for thousands of. years. It's nuts. It's amazing we made. it as far as we did. >> I don't know if we'll do another. thousand. >> I think. >> not with these little [ __ ]. >> No, I'm just saying like think think. about think about where we are now. Like. those dudes, they was hard, right? Like. they regardless they was hard. Now we in. Tik Tok culture. We got hard like that.

>> There's a lot of that. And there's an. encouragement of men to not be strong, which is always weird. pushing the. thing. >> It's always weird. There's that. encouragement and it comes from people. that aren't strong. They want more. people like them, people more like us to. get and when they're in control of. social media, that's where things get. weird. >> The [ __ ] Aculite, I'll tell you, they. clipped all the balls from the Jedi. Nobody's going to want an action figure. of that [ __ ] little. >> Star Wars. >> Well, I mean, they they they just I.

mean, they pussified the Hulk in Marvel. Yeah, they gave him glasses and now he. can talk. Like now it doesn't make any. sense that you would go back and forth. between being the Hulk and being Bruce. Banner. >> Yeah. Doesn't make any sense. Supposed. to be super smart who's weak. >> You know, this is Silver Ser. wasn't that great that movie. But. Superman, >> that is a weird. >> It's a weird choice to give a guy role. to a girl. It's a weird choice because. there's so many girl roles in in super.

chick superheroes, >> especially in the X-Men. The X-Men had. plenty of bad tons of them, right? >> They got to do that over right now. >> It's like you've got Superwoman, you got. there's plenty of different characters. you could play. Like I I don't know why. >> Yeah. Why you. >> Unless you're trying to prove a point. unless like Matt Sarah says, I know who. you voted for. >> Yeah. Uh to be fair, there is a a female. Silver Surfer. Yeah. For all the people. >> Yeah. Well, here's here's the deal with. that. She was in maybe two.

>> episodes where she mattered and the rest. of them she was mentioned. Like she's. not a real character. >> Bro, I used to love the Silver Surfer. Did anybody ever do a comic. flat out movie that's any good? >> Not a straight up one. I thought the. first Fantastic 4 one they they got the. Silver Surfer pretty good in that one. >> Why wouldn't they have a Silver Surfer. movie? That's. >> I know. But that's like my favorite. character. >> I mean, especially Silverfer cosmic. character. >> Yeah, he's zen as [ __ ] Never gets. upset. >> Thousand%. I mean, he basically.

sacrificed himself to save his planet. and his and his girl. >> Bro, the Silver Surfer is literally the. coolest comic book guy ever. >> They made him look cool in this. Even. >> Rise of the Silver Surfer. >> I thought this was a They did good in. this. >> They did a version a whole episode of. the Avengers or a whole movie of the. Avengers on the Silver Surfer. I forgot. about that. >> Fantastic. What year was that? >> This was fantastic. >> Oh, yeah. Fantastic 4. This was pre. >> 2007. >> This was when uh Jessica Alba was the. invisible woman. >> 2007. >> and Captain America was the Human Torch.

that got Chris Evans. >> Yeah, he was good. Who played Silver. Surfer in this? >> Uh I don't I don't remember. >> It might have been all season. >> He looked a I thought they they got they. nailed it. I thought in this. thing the thing looks. >> the voice was Lawrence Fishart. >> Yeah, the thing was I remember that. >> when I was chubby I look like Michael. Chickw the [ __ ] his name. The thing chickless. show that kind of looked like The Thing, >> but uh yeah, I saw that new Fantastic 4. movie and it wasn't overly woke or.

anything, but. >> they could have done more with The. Thing, >> which I heard it was like a minor. >> and uh you know, the girls had the best. parts. They're the ones that did the. thing with Galactus at the end. No. spoilers, but [ __ ] So, you know, but I. am happy to say, and I know you were. waiting for me to bring it up. I enjoyed. the new Superman. >> I didn't see it yet. >> Of course not. We're all adults except. for me here. But listen, I see it. though. I heard it's good. >> James Gun, man. I don't I don't believe.

I never heard of that song. Uh, Punk. Rocker by Teddy Bears. Oh, that'll. change your life. It has Iggy Pop in it. >> Uhoh. >> Oh, it gets my nipples hot. It's so. good. and the movie. If you like. Guardians of the Galaxy, which I'm sure. you did, they were good. >> Then you'll like this because it's just. fun. Let's have fun again. >> I have nothing against the Henry Kaval. Caval one. He was a badass. >> He was good. >> But it was a little You know, Snider's. got that darker. >> Isn't it kind of weird that we still. want to see the same [ __ ] characters.

over and over and over again in. different versions of the same movie? Like, isn't it kind of weird? >> No, cuz we love some people love those. characters. >> I understand. But it's like there's a. little thing of it that it's like. seeking comfort in in this thing. Oh, it's Superman again. >> Like not letting go of our childhood. >> Yeah. 100% because like try coming up. with a new Superman today. People are. going to be like, "Fuck you." Like some. new kind of comic book guy. Like not no. background at all in in comic books. So.

you you come up with a superhero type. character now in a movie. No one's going. to watch it, right? Like I don't I don't. want a new one. No one wants a new one. Everyone wants the Hulk. Everybody wants. Spider-Man. You want to see Spider-Man? There's like how many different dudes. have been the Hulk? Like four or five. dudes? >> They kept changing the Hulk. >> Bunch of dudes. >> Was good. Ed Norton was the best. >> They got rid of him because he wanted to. keep the Hulk like the Hulk. You know. what I mean? They didn't like him. >> That was my favorite version of the. Hulk. The Ed Norton movie.

>> And he's running through the FLLAS in. Brazil, right? Yeah. That was awesome. Bro, when when when the Hulk starts. running through that factory and he's. smashing through everything, right? >> Hell yeah. >> That's when it was like, see, you kind. of knew it was [ __ ] You're looking. at it like a CGI. It's okay. >> It's a comic, but as long as you keep it. kind of darkly lit, >> you know, don't don't show me too much. >> They got better with that. They got. better with the uh. >> That wasn't too long ago for Hancock. That was a superhero that was just out. of nowhere. >> I can't watch anything with this [ __ ].

guy anymore. I didn't want suck to say. his whole. nuts real corny. >> and this guy's doubling down on smacking. Chris Rock you know that he has a verse. it's like you you disrespect me on the. stage expect me on the stage which is. kind of cool saying but. >> you know I mean horseshit doubling down. on it. >> spiral downward spiral and and then you. I mean you're basically he stole our. show name because he is a cuck you see. our original name cucks.

You saw what the hell his wife has. humiliated that poor guy. >> Yeah. Publicly, man. That was weird. >> It's And he was universally loved and. now he's pretty well. >> almost universally reviled, >> you know, for Chris and then the loves. that Chris Rock. >> His music shitty. >> I was about to say his rap is so trash. >> Garbage. >> Sometimes you hit your horse to the. wrong wagon. >> Yeah. >> And that that'll take you on a bad. journey, son. uh taking on a bad journey.

and you might you might hang in there. for a while and keep your sanity for a. while but eventually. >> if you're living with someone who's. >> not right for you and there's a lot of. tension which there seems to be with. them. >> lot of weird [ __ ]. >> important decision is the spouse the. most important [ __ ] decision gigantic. look at the kids I mean the son who. Imagine if you had to camp out with your. best friend for the rest of your life. >> you would have to really be careful Like. I have to pick one dude and I'm going to.

be able to camp out with him for the. rest of my life. Just me and him in a. tent for the rest of my life. >> And you get to [ __ ] him. No. No. I know. what you're saying. You're saying. personalitywise. >> Yeah. But now you add in sex and the. fact that you're not even the same. gender. >> You got to be My thing is I always say. you got to be compatible. Like you know. what I mean? Me and my wife very. compatible. >> Yeah. Me too. >> Because man I can't I got lucky. >> I can't stand anybody. >> Well, you know, you just got to be. picky. And some people aren't. Some. people just settle for hot.

>> Yeah, >> that's the problem. Settle it for the. most dangerous chart with the hot and. the crazy. problem. >> The girls settle for all right [ __ ] I. got to get a kid soon. I'm going to be. 30 or you know, so they'll settle for. Mr. Good Enough. So that's the most. important. It's got to be hard for the. girls out there, too. [ __ ] bunch of. savages. >> It's hard for everybody out there. It's. a It's a weird time. And now everybody's. on dating apps. Everybody has like. culture change opportunity at every.

swipe of the finger. >> Today it's like socially acceptable to. be a hoe. >> I think it's also it's there's real. concerns that intelligent people have. about population decline. That sounds. kind of crazy like what we're not going. to population decline. Plenty of people. But the problem is people are not having. nearly as many people like replacement. people. It's like not enough. Like in. order for a society to exist at the same. numbers is essentially everyone has to. have kids. >> Right. >> Right. But a giant percentage of people. like in our generation and younger. generations are not having kids. They're.

deciding to opt out of it and just focus. on their career. And. >> they say in Italy and here uh I mean. Japan like they're all having a negative. uh you know population over the years. like they're not having enough kids to. sustain the population. And you add into. that microplastics. that that are killing everybody's balls, >> knocking their knocking down your your. >> It's kind of weird. It's like a thing. that we don't see coming, >> you know? We don't see it coming. Like. real population, but but places like. Japan are freaking out, man. They're.

they're really worried about it. South. Korea, same thing. Yeah, it's could be a. real problem. >> I didn't even know that was a thing. >> Well, it just makes sense, man. If. you've got everybody just wants to have. a career and if you can't focus on your. career because you have kids, you put. your kids off till you're in your late. 40s. What's the number like the 2.1 or. something? You know, you have to have. 2.1 kids in order to maintain the uh, you know, the just the current level of. population. >> Someone was telling me that in vitro. fertilization, which a lot of women use, that those hormones that they have to. give you are linked to cancer.

>> Really? >> Is that true, Jamie? >> Can you find Can you look that up? Cuz. someone someone brought it up to me and. I was like, I don't know if that's is. really. And why is testosterone in the. younger generation not as strong as it. used to? >> Microplastics. He had he had a lady on. that went deep into that stuff. >> There's no strong evidence to suggest is. AI. AI is working for the government. Man, >> okay. Let's see. National Institute of.

Health says transient increase in the. risk of having breast or uterine cancer. So as soon as you start admitting things. like that to me and this says no. conclusive evidence the fertility. >> 1999. >> yeah six years old. >> right. what does it say like. >> 17 do not. >> it says doesn't. >> treatments do not increase the risk of. ovarian cancer malignant melanoma or. cancers of the endometrium. >> h.

why am I skeptical. >> I don't. Okay. Maybe I'm skeptical because you're. using Google. >> Well, I mean, what. >> I know, but you know what I'm saying? But that's the place to use. But I would. wonder how much of that would be. available. Like if someone if someone's. some sort of an alternative doctor or. someone who's stepping outside of the. lines and saying, "I'm treating a bunch. of cases of cancer." Like, where would. you even find that guy's work? >> I I don't know. No idea. Twitter.

>> Yeah. That's the problem, right? You see. a thing on Twitter, you're like, "Is. this guy a quack?". >> Right? >> Is this guy real? But a person told it. to me that I I trust. And I was like, "Really? That stuff causes cancer?". >> Because like that's you're you're you. got to dose yourself up with a bunch of. hormones when ladies do that in vitro. fertilization thing. >> All I know is I like that now at our. age, we're all in our 50s. Are you 50s. yet, [ __ ]. >> Next year. >> Okay. >> I'm still in my 40s, man. I mean, are. you on Are you on TRT yet?

>> Yeah, I got a little bit of Thank. goodness. >> Thank God we have that, man. Cuz back in. the day, >> yeah, you'd fall. >> They'd be [ __ ] up at our age. >> Back in the day, we would just find it. on the street. >> Well, I don't think you'd ever be. >> You had a different neighborhood. >> But those guys were right. That's what's. crazy. It's like old juice heads were. right. >> in a in a lot of ways. Like there's a. lot of old juice heads in the gym that. were looking jacked in their 50s and 60s. like what is he doing? Like Bobby just. stays on Dball. was on that guy.

>> You would meet people in the gym that. would tell you like what they do and how. they did it and then you had to take. advice from those folks. And a lot of. fighters got their you would think by. the time a fighter gets to the UFC, >> you know, like, wow, he's probably got a. professional team behind him, a bunch of. like really organized folks. Like, no, no, no. These dudes come with sketchy. characters, >> like super sketchy connections to the. streets. I used to just read as much as. I could, you know, if you were going to. you try to get as much information as.

you could about what you're putting in. yourself. >> The best guy is online is Derek. today. He wasn't around 80s and 90s. >> I know. But he's like the best version. of a pro scientist. >> You know, he's a smart [ __ ]. >> Smart [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> I wouldn't [ __ ] with that myself. Like I. go to a place that, you know, they check. my blood every six weeks. All right, you. got to give you got to donate blood now. you got to do this and that so it. doesn't get too thick, you know? >> I've heard that before, but I don't have. that problem for some reason.

>> It doesn't do it. I think it doesn't, you know, every [ __ ] doesn't do it to. everybody. >> I go donate the blood. >> I was recommen. uh twice. >> I You do it every six weeks. >> No, no, you mean you're getting. >> No, they check me. They check me and if. it gets too high, my red blood cells, whatever they. >> Oh, so you're just getting the finger. prick to see what your. >> Yeah, they take a little blood out and. then they check it and then they check. all my everything. >> Well, they can do your red blood cell.

count. Like if you go donate blood, they. [ __ ] prick your finger and check what. your level is. >> Yeah, I go there. Well, I my place finds. out first and then they say, "All right, I could either do a dump there, but they. don't use the blood. I like to donate it. because I do the same.". >> Do you have unvaccinated blood? Do you. have pure blood? >> I got pure blood, man. you. I don't. They pay me. They pay me double. >> Which one? They get. >> three times. I got all three of them. You know what happened? >> Yeah, I got all I had to. I had to. Why? >> Cuz you had to work. >> I had to work. UFC made us. >> What? UFC made me.

>> Yeah, they made us. >> They didn't make me. I [ __ ] didn't do. my [ __ ]. >> But though, if you're traveling all over. the place, >> that's the problem. [ __ ] Some of these. countries weren't letting you in without. it. >> What? >> Yeah. Yeah. They wouldn't without it. When you [ __ ] make someone take. something because they the only way you. could they could use your service is if. they take cuz you think that this this. thing is going to work and it doesn't. work. >> Shouldn't you be able to go, [ __ ] you. You made me take this and this thing. didn't even work. >> It didn't even do any of the things you. said. >> Feel bad for the people.

>> It's crazy what you can get away with in. the world, especially during something. like a pandemic, you know, where. everybody just agrees to different. rules. Cuz that's what happened during. the pandemic. >> I was thinking about that [ __ ] Are. people still dying from CO? >> No. >> That's what I'm saying. Like what. happened to that? >> There's people that are dying with CO. So there's people that are dying and. they also have CO, >> but they're dying, right? And that's the. difference. And that's why the numbers. for the deaths were elevated so high. >> You got a cancer [ __ ]. shark attack. Check the fetus.

>> He's got CO. >> Yeah. Like everybody died of CO. They if. because they were financially. incentivized pe in people to treat. deaths as COVID deaths. >> Same with the ventilators. They were. getting more money if they had a. somebody put on a ventilator and then. they find out the ventilators were. killing people. Can you imagine that? There was so much craziness like you. know when we were saying we hope that. someone is in charge that knows exactly. what to do and no there's a lot of times. in history we have no idea what the [ __ ]. they're doing and then financial. interests get involved.

>> and then they come up with we're going. to just make everybody take this this is. going to be amazing. lot of money load of money by the way. they don't want to just take it once two. three times they can't take you to court. >> and they can't take it to no liability. >> cuz they called it a vaccine when it's. not even really a vaccine. It's a gene. therapy. It's a totally novel new thing. that you're giving to 300 million people. just in this country alone. >> The ads were so shady. Like I'd be in my. car and it'd be like a two students.

talking like my parents don't want me to. take it, but I'm really nervous. It was. like really crazy. I'm like what the. [ __ ] is this? >> So nuts, >> bro. That's so nuts. You know how many. people have stories where they let their. kid take it and then the kid has a. stroke? There's there's they're all over. online. There's this. >> myocarditis was a big thing, too. >> Myocarditis. Yeah. There's undiagnosed. myocarditis out there, too. I bet where. people just just feel tired all the. time. Feel a little fatigued. >> Yeah. >> Who got the vaccine? >> Yeah, definitely.

>> Jamie got co real early. Jamie survived. it early, so I knew. >> I knew it was not that big a deal. >> Good job, Jamie. Jamie took one for the. team. Jamie. >> Jamie toughed it through. I was like, Jamie seems okay. All right. All right. >> And then Tony Hitchcliffe got it. He got. it worse than Jamie. He had it a little. longer than you, right? >> I don't know. >> You don't remember? >> Yeah, man. It's The creepy thing is. these [ __ ] they meet and then. they say, "Oh, there will be another. pandemic." And you're like, "What [ __ ]. you talking about? >> How do you know?".

>> Yeah. >> Well, what about uh Biden and friends. were trying to sign one with the WHO. where they had control over being able. to shut the US down like and all this. nonsense. Thank God we pulled right the. [ __ ] out of that with Trump. What a dumb. idea. Let some giant global health. organization. >> have say over our country. >> Fully corrupt. >> Let these [ __ ] run the country. because. >> Bill Gates is the number one donator to. it. >> Yeah. Just nuts, man. It's just nuts.

Crazy [ __ ]. >> Before I got here, I was watching. uh [ __ ] Kamzot versus Kamora. Not not. to just jump into that now, but let's. jump into it. Yeah. >> Uh, you know, I had Draus on Unfiltered. the other day. >> and he, you know, he's he's an. intelligent guy, man. He's not g he's. not a guy that doesn't do his homework. And he was just saying about. >> everybody talks about how aggressive. Kamzad is. And he goes, "Watch his fight. in Kamar Usman in the second round. Over. three minutes of him just standing in.

standing there.". >> He's like, "He's not going to be able to. do that to me. He's going to be working. the whole time." He trains so [ __ ]. hard that he puts out everything in that. five minutes. >> That one minute gets him right back. It's almost like he approaches that at. like five different fights like you know. what I mean because in that one minute. he comes back down and then he goes back. out there again. Dracus. >> and we were just talking that we saw you. saw the same thing I saw with his. grappling ability. He took out a whole I. mean listen it's different. Those guys. were a lot of guard players but he he. did a quintet and submitted everybody.

again. They were more jiu-jitsu guys. It's a different type of style. But that. was impressive. Not to mention and I I. looked, you know, the my producers gave. me his bio and everything and I'm like, dude, he started his first thing in the. first entry into martial arts was at 5. years old doing judo and his second. discipline was at 12 years old doing. wrestling. I mean, it's not like he's. not a grappler. Everybody's just so used. to him [ __ ] throwing his bombs and. his kicks. >> Well, you know, I'm on your side with. this. We had that talk last night. >> I mean, he's he's a monster and there's.

guys, and you know this cuz you work. with Morab. There's guys that reach this. level of discipline and they achieve a. level of cardiovascular performance. that's just above everybody else's and. then they maintain it. >> Like they get that advantage and they. keep pushing it and they slowly keep. adding on to it. Like you're seeing. Morab now. >> like particularly in the the second Ali. fight is like a totally different beast. He's super confident non-stop and you. can't you can't keep up with that, you. know? He's like it's just hard work.

It's just hard work. I believe that. But. man, but state of mind too, like mental, he believes it mentally. >> But it's the amount of hard work is. extraordinary to get to that level. And. I think Drius is kind of a similar kind. of guy. I think that dude works so hard. that he can go out there and fight full. blast, >> which is what's weird to when you watch. him fight like sometimes it doesn't look. as clean. >> He looks like he's mouth breathing, but. he just keeps the same. >> That was a lot of that was the earlier. fights before he got his nose fixed. So.

he got his nose fixed. All right. >> So he could breathe out of his nose. >> Changed everything and then was went on. a tear after that was that's when he. crushed Whitaker. Like the Whitaker one. was shocking. >> Like cuz we all know how durable. Whitaker is. The Yoel Romero fights like. that guy's durable as [ __ ] To watch him. just flatten him like that. You're like, "Whoa, hang on.". >> He's funny. He says, he goes, "I don't. uh" He's like, "I don't have a a great. poker face." He goes, "People say I look. tired cuz I am tired. And when you get. tired, you breathe out of your mouth. more." And he goes, "But even if I am.

tied, I don't have a poker face, but I'm. still coming forward. I'm still going. to." So, and he has he's got, man, he's. got. >> confidence. He's beaming with conf. He's. just that guy. He's. >> I mean, he's a good champion. >> Great champion. Speaks well. Yeah. >> Looks apart. >> It's interesting the Izzy fight. I went. and watched that again and you know, it. seemed like Izzy had an advantage up to. a point, but then the pressure got to. him. Then he got hit with a couple of. those long shots. he got hit and it just.

looked like he just didn't have enough. in him to fight his way out of it and. when he went down he got submitted. pretty quickly afterwards. But I would. wonder what Izzy in his prime how that. fight would have looked cuz that would. have been a lot different. A lot you. know Izzy in his prime when he was you. know. >> he was a little quicker. >> little angles. Yeah also just just. hadn't been damaged. There's just the. and there's the damage of training is. like but like is he Paulo Costa? >> Yeah. >> that's prime.

>> that's prime. That's also motivated. Izzy like [ __ ] you Izzy. down on his. shots. Is he? Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean, put him away quick and. then dry humped him. >> Yeah. >> You know, he's terrible. Don't do that, kids. But. that is that would have been very very. interesting to see him versus versus. Dreas cuz he could have handled that. pressure cuz that pressure the pressure. is bananas. You know, like Anthony the. Anthony Hernandez fight this past. weekend. Jesus, >> that pressure is nuts, man. >> Crazy. You could, man. I was like, you.

couldn't keep up with him, dude. He he. looked like a different level. Chris was. Roman. Looked amazing. He's He looks. like a world champion. He looks like a. world champion. >> Spoiled it for you guys. Sorry about. that. >> No worries. No worries. No worries. >> No, I I was out. Yeah. When I came home, I was like, "Fuck." I didn't see it yet, but I watched it as soon as I got home. I was super impressed, man. >> And that that whole division is like, Jesus, there's so many different. contenders in that division. You know, you got Boalo. >> Yeah. Another tough one.

>> This whole fight car with a gas tank. >> Strickland. Like what's going to happen. with Strickland? They suspended him. indefinitely for punching some dude. >> Yeah. >> Oh, did you see that? Like he didn't. have to do that, man. Those guys got to. Him and Chris Curtis, man. They just. >> Man, you you can't [ __ ] with them. >> cuz they Yeah. They will not back down. You just can't [ __ ] with them. >> Yeah. And you can't But you can't jump. into a cage and punch. >> That's what I'm saying. Like camera in. front of everybody. >> That guy was being a little. disrespectful, though. >> I like Strickland. I mean,

>> [ __ ] that guy. Yeah, I mean that was. kind of And then they interview that guy. after and he's like, you know, he. doesn't have a anything on the mic. He's. like, "Yeah, well it's entertainment.". It's like, "Oh, boy. Here we go.". >> He got what he wanted. He got what he. wanted. >> Yeah. He got his two seconds. >> But Des Sean is crazy. >> Yeah, man. Those guys Hey, man. He is. what he sells. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? He walks that. [ __ ]. >> You ever see when that guy tried to. Well, the guy who was like running from. the cops and he was sneaking around his. house. Sean came out with a pistol. >> Yeah, I did see that. The dude had like.

crashed DUI and then jumped out of the. car running into the wrong [ __ ] yard. right into strong Sean Strickland. >> I mean, a lot of times now though, >> he's sitting in the house waiting to. shoot somebody. He's so excited. >> Oh, that's a wet dream for him. >> But, uh, yeah, but uh, you know, nowadays with that guy in the being. disrespectful like that, there just so. everybody's so used to no repercussions. It's like so everybody just gets so much. rudder. I always say bring bullies back. you know, there was the world was a. better place, you know,

>> or teach everybody martial arts. >> I mean, I that would help cuz I mean, >> it's just sucks when a guy who is into. martial arts like Strickland does. something. >> and you still love him. >> I told them a story last night where I. long like, "Yeah, this kid wants to do. an interview. His mother's a little. overbearing and uh you know, she's a. little crazy, but they help out the kid. The kid's a nice kid." So, I'm like, "All right." So after a Saturday class, I got like 60 people. Uh, you know, I'm. a little I get my nights aren't great. because my ulcerative colitis, but you.

know, I I'm energetic. I do my class. I. do this thing for this kid, 12-year-old. kid, and the mother's like, "Oh, we want. to inspire the youth of today." Cuz. they're all little [ __ ] She's an Irish. lady, a little. And then so I sit down. with this kid and I'm like, "All right.". you know, he goes, "Okay, I'm here with. freaking UFC legend Matt Sarah, and I'm. 12 years old, and yet we managed to be. the same exact height. I got [ __ ] I got I got blindsided by. this little fuck." So now, and when he.

said that, the hus and the wife are be. husband's behind the I'm like, "Dude, I'm seeing red. I want to [ __ ]. >> So they're laughing.". >> Oh, they're like, in other words, they. want a response. So I'm like, so my. first thought was it's directed towards. the father who might have taught this. kid no manners. >> Stop lying. A kid's your size. You. wanted to hit. >> I wanted to I wanted to do a whole. [ __ ] Loki in that [ __ ] I was. going to take that little [ __ ] So then. I remembered that I got my daughters in.

there. So I go so he tried to ask me. I. go, "Oh, so I I go, who came up with. that question, bud?" He goes, "Me. Me.". And now this kid knows I can't strangle. him. I want to kill his fat father. And. then I remembered my three daughters are. in there. So I go inside. I go just I. can't. I go, "Give me one second, kid.". I go inside. I go, "Maria, this kid's. giving me a hard time. I want you to. roll with him and put it on him." Okay. On my Instagram, this kid wanted clicks. 38,000 views of my I go, you know, my. daughter strangled the [ __ ] out of this.

kid and I and we got some clicks and it. was talking [ __ ] like he's talking [ __ ]. to the kid. >> Repercussions, Joe. Re [ __ ]. percussion. He's like, "Who's my height. now, kid?" Yeah. Instagram on the video. Oh, you're going to get some clicks on. this. >> Oh, yeah. You want some clicks, you. little [ __ ] And they, you know, wow. You know, oh, you see my daughter. >> No mercy for the 12-year-old, huh? >> And after my daughter said, I go, "You. want to start from the feet or throw the.

on the knees?" He chose on the knees, you know. My daughter strangles him. once. Then I go, "I pull him in, pull. him on top. Pull him in. God, I'm just. any I just I go, "Are you going to make. any more short jokes?" Cameron, no. little [ __ ] you know. But anyway, I. just love jiu-jitsu, man. Shout out to. my Maria. But uh I'm glad I My first. instinct was attack the old man. I'm. like, "You fat [ __ ] I'm sitting there. giving you my t is the first question. You'll get away with that. I know you.

for 30 years, John. [ __ ] that old fuck.". You know, Joe, right? As you think about. like the industry of like trying to keep. bodies together, what industry, what. sport provides more patience than. jiu-jitsu? >> Goodness. >> Like everybody, you know, like if you. think about it, when you get to a a. certain point and you've been training. for a certain amount of time, you're. going to get [ __ ] banged up. Like. what sport benefits more from like guys. in their 40s and 50s like peptides and.

stem cells? It's jiu-jitsu brings a lot of patience. cuz everybody's hurt. >> Everybody's hurt. Like regular. 40year-old dudes aren't hurt all the. time. You know what I mean? They usually. work. They go into an office. They They. don't rarely get knee injuries. Knee. injuries are rare. >> I'll tell you, >> 40-year-old guys, everybody's knees are. [ __ ] up. >> Everybody's [ __ ] up. >> Everybody's [ __ ] up. >> They got a Everybody got a hurt. shoulder. >> Everybody's [ __ ] up. Everybody's got a. bad. >> [ __ ] pickle ball. I do a 40 night 40.

I do a 40 and overnight. uh a class. every Wednesday. I teach it. >> Oh, me nei. And then I to just to feel. like Gordon Ryan, I jump on the old men. I have fun with them. But dude, they. [ __ ] love it. Sometimes when it's. less than 20, I'll do like my old school. jiu-jitsu gang fight. Everybody I pick. teams, I put this guy over there. I get. it kind of even. They all start on their. knees. You remember this? We used to do. it from the feet back in Enzo. Everybody's breaking their backs, jumping on backs. But it's when one team.

you can know. No lower body submissions. Could be twoon-one, three on one. It. stops when one team submits the whole. other team. So, we got these old men in. there like they're jumping on back, dude. They're upstairs in the locker. room. It reminds me of the Twilight Zone. movie when they play Kick the Kid. They're like little kids up there like. talking about They have such a good time. >> practicing murdering each other, right? >> Isn't that funny? Like, but making it. novel like that, making it like a team. thing like, "Oh, it's funny. Especially. if you trust each other, if you're all,

you know, training partners. >> Biggest thing out of an academy is the. atmosphere as you know. So I make sure I. pluck guys out on a [ __ ] every month. somebody comes in I don't like get keep. you a couple hundred dollars. Get the. [ __ ] out of here. Right. >> It's all top down. It all comes down. from the the attitude of the people that. are running the place. Always. Always. >> Yo, do you ever show up at a random. jiu-jitsu school and just pop in? >> No. >> You can't do that. >> I haven't rolled at all in a year. No. I've had a reoccurring knee issue and a. reoccurring lower back issue that I'm. trying to get right before I do anything.

stupid again. >> You know what I mean? >> Shout out to Bio Accelerator and. >> Oh, that place is great. >> They're so [ __ ] great. >> A lot of positive results from that. place. I know a lot of people went down. there. >> I'm able to throw my right hand again, which I used to wave like [ __ ] this. And now I'm I'm just I'm so happy I'm. able to do it again. >> Bring it back to the Camaro fight with. uh Chamay. Camaro's been down there too. I was I was down there a couple years. ago. >> Yeah, it's like it's a lot of UFC guys. going down there. >> Oh, 100%. Christo, >> that CPI in Tijana is a closer closer.

trek. That place is really good. And the. UFC is affiliated with them now. >> Okay. Very interesting. Nice. >> Yeah, they're really good. I know a lot. of people. Eddie Bravo's been down there. multiple times, but I know a lot of UFC. fighters that have been down there, >> man. I I I've been to the in again. Colombia. What is it? Metalene. Am I. saying right? I always [ __ ] that up. But. for hey, the food down there was [ __ ]. delicious. >> Went out there with my Jedi Abe and. [ __ ] we he took me into town. The. food I was eating the bread. I was I'm. just again.

>> South American knows how to do, >> you know. [ __ ] that bro, mate. >> Yeah. >> So good. Yeah, I went down there. Dan. Severn was down there. We Dan, he was in. a [ __ ] wheelchair getting rolled. around. >> Oh, no. He's in a wheelchair. >> No, just for that trip because he was. getting uh stem cells. Yeah. >> Oh. Oh. Oh. Breaker. Oh yeah. >> Got me addicted to these sort of things. >> Yeah. You got my at home, my Muay Thai. coach at home, Vince Moski runs the tai. program. >> He goes, "Yeah, tell Rogan thanks. I. tried them [ __ ] Zens and now I'm.

addicted to them." You know? So. >> I uh took my whole vacation off of him. and like I said, I was like wondering. what it was going to feel like. I was. like, "Oh my word.". >> Nothing. It was fine. It was nothing. >> I just think it's I I think it might be. a biological thing. You know, some. people cigarettes just get them and they. just want to smoke cigarettes every day. And some people nicotine gets them. And. I think some people could just stop. taking nicotine and they seem to be all. right. And thankfully I seem to be one. of them. >> It helps me [ __ ].

>> I couple of those with my espresso and a. selzer in the morning. Oh Jesus. >> You know, it's terrible. >> I feel so great. >> It's terrible for playing pool. If you. take too many of them, you you like. you're shaky. like you don't have like a. good connection between your movement. >> You feel you feel like weird when you're. shooting. >> Like you don't notice it when you're. talking because it's it is a stimulant. So it's like stimulating your brain. It. actually like helps brain function. Nicotine itself is a neutropic. >> It's like it's a nutrient that helps. brain function. Like it'll help you pass.

tests. >> I think it helps my ADD a little. >> It probably does. >> Yeah. >> Terrible for pool though. >> But I'm still on that alpha brain so. that's all the. >> That's legit. We got gummies now, too, man. Gummies. >> Yeah. >> Nice. You want some? >> Yeah, I'll take some, too. >> I got a I'll give you guys a open jar of. them when we get out of here. >> How many do you take? >> I take three. >> Oh, [ __ ] Back on the uh on the duplex. uh fight there. Like, I mean, we were.

talking last night, we both think that. DDP can pull this out and win it. Like, my mind definitely win. >> My mindset. And look, we all know. Kamzad's a savage. He can win it too. But yeah, I could see I could see either. one either way this fight, >> but if I, you know, if we look at it, I. mean, his two toughest opponents saved. for Whitaker who went in there with a a. broken face and got it broke the rest of. the way, >> right? >> The uh, you know, Gilbert 170 and maybe. Gilbert won that one.

>> Camaru 170 took it on very short notice. >> The couch. >> almost won that one. If it goes longer, probably he does win. >> That was minimal weight. >> Yeah. Well, yeah, but he's 170 pounder. Like if he's making 70 all the time and. going to 85 now, you're fighting a dude. that walks at 230, so he's not going to. have a big strength advantage over him. Yeah, he's going to be the better. wrestler, >> you know, but I just think uh I just. think that Drius is going to be able to. weather the storm and then come out the.

other side and it's going to be a. problem. And if Kamzach comes in, people. are talking about him fighting at a. slower pace. Well, that's not his style. And if he fights at a slower pace, I. think that plays into. >> Drius' hands because it will allow. forward and do and pressure him and. things. So, >> well, it's going to be interesting to. see if it gets into deep water. That's. what's going to be interesting because I. know he started training with uh. Calvita. So, he went. >> for his conditioning. >> Yeah, he went to Sam Calvita who trained. TJ Dillashaw. He works with Aaron Pico.

Arman Sarukian's doing it with him too. And that guy is a legend, man. Calvita. is a. >> No, 100%. I I believe with cardio, too, part of it is your is your is your. mental your mindset like with pushing. through the tired and you know, we were. talking a little last night and and you. know, Kamzot's a bad [ __ ] I. don't know about his mind yet because. this is the thing. This is what I was. getting at. >> Pulls out of a bunch of fights. Arman. Sukian who also just pulled out of a. fight but Arman.

but Arman said the problem was Hamzot. overtrained for every fight and he would. always come into fights worn out. >> and that was the difference between. working with Calva that they're. monitoring his actual recovery. They're. they're making sure they're doing. everything scientifically. Calvida's I. think his background is in cycling like. it was in you know endurance sports. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm familiar I'm. familiar with him. I know who he's I. know he was TJ's guy. >> Nobody knows more about cardio than.

cyclers cuz it's all cardio the whole. thing. It's all cardio. >> So they know. >> cardio and EPO. >> They Yeah, they know that too. Well, they know how to recover and they know. like where what's your threshold like. where you should be. >> for sure. For sure. >> So, he's using real science to do it. He's like this is the first time he's. ever been through a camp like this where. he's coming in fresh where he's not. overtrained. >> Well, we're going to see. We're going to. we're going to see. And my question is. too, if he gets in a bad spot, right, >> is he going to push through it? Will the. bully crumble? You know, when. >> he didn't crumble with Gilbert,

but. >> he got sat down by Gilbert too, though. >> But Drake has even said in that fight. how started strong. There's a certain. amount. He he was counting how many. minutes he was just standing in front of. him. He said that with both that both. those fights, his fight with Gilbert and. uh Camaro Usman, he had the exact amount. of time. He goes for three minutes and. whatever seconds he was just standing in. front of him when he he was saying that. for both guys. >> Camaro was coming on strong in that. third round. >> I know he was coming. That was a five. round fight. I bet the betting would. shift. I bet. >> for sure. Oh yeah, 100%. He started.

coming on at the end of the second he. started to. Yes. In the third round it. was like was all Usman I thought. >> Yeah. I mean but it is impressive the. way that [ __ ] can shoot from. halfway across the octagon. >> No one. >> Yeah. He's like his wrestling too. like. I don't know. Do you know Pat Downey? >> Yes. >> All right. Well, he he's I've known him. since he's a little kid and he was in. Kamzot's camp and said like his he said. his wrestling he goes wrestling is like. real good. He said he's got top-notch. wrestling. Like he talked about he said.

we probably both did better with each. other than you would think. Like he did. better with wrestling and I did better. with the jiu-jitsu. He said but uh he. said like he he said the guy's a beast. He said he's strong. Said he's and he. said he's a high level wrestler. >> Shab was down there watching him train. And you know they they asked Sha they. asked Shab to spar with him. He's like. [ __ ] you. He's like he's like I'm 40. something years old. I'm not no I'm. done. I'm not doing this anymore. And he. said Hamzot was just lighting people up. He said he looks really good. >> Nice. >> The thing about Hamzot is a good one.

>> All these guys were 170s, right? You. you're right about that. But with 170. comes speed, right? And Hamzot speed is. a is a factor. It's a big factor with. his hand speed. He's, you know, people. forget because like what he did to Kevin. Holland, the way he could ragd doll guys. on the ground, but what he did to Gerald. Merchard is pretty [ __ ] spooky. That's a really good punch. >> Technical and sharp and straight down. the. >> parallel rounded guy. >> He's [ __ ] good standing up, man. He's.

good standing up. And that's where it's. going to be weird. That That's where I. want to see because Dupacy makes. everybody look stupid. He He finds a way. to every every mistake. He must got a. lot of power, but they're not mistakes. He [ __ ] for sure has a lot of power. But. someone did a great breakdown of what he. did with Robert Whitaker where he set up. that right hook and the way he he was. like recognizing that Whitaker had this. certain pattern and and it's not like it. looks weird because he he just moves.

different than everybody else, but he's. whatever it is, it works. And when he. hits you, it's like he getting hit by a. car. >> It doesn't have to be that pretty. >> That's what I'm saying, right? He's got. to have power to make guys so nervous. about getting hit by him. >> Bro, that cat is so big. He looks like a. [ __ ] heavyweight when you're next to. him. You're like, how are you a. middleweight? How are you 185 ever? >> The thing that I that uh that that comes. that I keep thinking about is like. when's the last time he actually though. fought a guy with comms out style? I. mean, who's ever who who's trying to.

shoot on him? Besides maybe there was a. Derek Brunson or something, but when's. the last time he fought a guy that's. just going to be. >> No one has Hamzot style in the UFC. I. like But even a grappler wrestler like. DDP said he he said, "Look, I'm fully. prepared. I'm going to get taken down.". Like, he's not in there saying my. wrestling I'm stuffing them. He said, "I'm going to get taken down, but I'm. going to weather the storm and I'm going. to be able to get back up and then we're. going to buy a strong warm-up in a. rubber suit. Man,

>> slippery as [ __ ] If you don't want to. cheat, you could you can bend the rules. cuz it's not cheating. >> I mean, when he gets on top of somebody, man, you definitely don't see guys. getting them off of you. So, >> well, when you got a guy who's got I. mean, that actually might not be a bad. idea. Give him those tracksuit things. >> to get warm up with. >> might not be a bad idea because you. totally can do that. Like, no one could. stop you from doing that. Whitaker was. defending okay when he was down there. and well I mean everybody remembers his. teeth getting shattered but before that.

he wasn't. >> likely he would have survived cuz Kamaro. survived it too right there it's. possible to survive. >> unless he just like what he did to Kevin. Holland was kind of crazy he just went. one to the other just just. crushed him. >> go uh Gilbert his guard kept him out of. it. >> Yep. You got to have a decent guard. because he don't like it. When Gilbert. started moving his hips, he said, "Nah, I'm out of here. Out of here.". >> Gilbert's actually really world class. >> Eugene World class.

Yeah. Gilbert's dangerous as [ __ ]. everywhere. You know, it was interesting. watching him roll with Rockold because I. know that, you know, it's not like. Rockold was in camp and prepared for. this and this is Rockhold at its best. I. don't even know how much he had been. training, but Hamza just handled him. >> Just handled him. And we know how good. Rockold is. very good at pro. >> Listen, what's so exciting about it is. there's a chance he could just take him. down and do what he to everybody else. There is that chance cuz he's so good on. the floor and he's he comes out so.

aggressive. >> But that's the if he survives it, >> you know, history and does he have the. confidence to go for it and possibly. empty the gas tank and get the finish? And if he doesn't, how [ __ ] is he? >> He has no other way. I don't think he he. I think take down and smash that's what. he want that's what he's he makes no you. know you can't adjust now disguising it. now in the world championship fight you. got to just hit the gasint. instinct's going to kick in and he is a.

sprinter you know what I mean. >> but that's the question is can he sprint. for five rounds cuz we know DDP can. right. >> him and John Strickland they were ready. to have heart attacks at the end of that. fight they were ready to have heart. attacks probably like the most elevated. heart level we've ever seen in a world. championship. getting his nose busted like that and. still stay. fighting with staff. He. >> had staff. >> He had staff. He had staff through the. second fight. That's why he was. listless. >> Yeah, he was on antibiotics and. everything. He's all [ __ ] up. Yeah, it. fucking's terrible, man. That happens.

all the time. Meanwhile, that happened. with Morab. He [ __ ]. >> No one. should notice the dude's on is. different, man. So different on. antibiotics. He's outworking everybody. Like that's crazy. That was the the that. was the which fight was that? >> Uh with the with the staff. >> Yeah. >> Was it the Umar fight? >> I think it was the Umar fight which was. crazy cuz there was Pace that melted. Umar and he's doing it while he's on his.

back was hurt too for that wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. There was times he wasn't. sleeping through the night. He couldn't. different. I saw John Wood the other day. They. think they're just going to run through. Cory. Oh, I don't run through. running through him. >> You gotta be real careful with hubris. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Morab's not saying. leave thinking like that. >> That's not Morab saying that. >> John Wood said that. Well, he I mean.

>> Morab could have had leg amputated. >> Dude, >> that's Morab. >> I don't need They could have taken I. only need one leg. Uh, he said, "Oh, he. was just taping it up and going back to. practice." Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. >> Someone close to M, Rob told me that. regular people would have probably had. their leg amputated if they had to deal. with the staff infection that he had on. his leg. >> Jesus. >> He was just like taping it up and going, I don't believe that. Whoever told you. that that's not true. They would put.

antibiotics on that. >> Yeah, they'd be good. So, >> that's not true. Um, they don't just. randomly amputate people's legs. I hope. I hope he said he had broken his hand. early in the fight. Oh, Numeov did. Um, he said he broke my back in training. camp, but some days I couldn't get up. from the bed. I just laid down. I don't. have a training camp. I don't have a. Kabib number goat off to help me train. Some days at the PI was closed. It was. Christmas. It was New Year's and. weekends and it happened a couple of. times. Umar was there and the security.

goes, "I'm sorry. We can't let you go. in.". [Music]. Yeah, Morab's different. >> Yeah, Morab's built different, man. >> Yeah, but there's also there's something. about dudes that were that are from that. part of the world. >> That is a wartorrn part of the world and. it makes a different kind of man. >> He's the American dream, man. I just had. him on my pod and we were talking for. over an hour about his whole journey. And dude, when he came over, he did not. to see him like I couldn't even. communicate with him. Like I I could cuz. I have a way, but he didn't speak any.

English. When I see him doing the skits. now, the chicken banana, he's [ __ ] He's funny as [ __ ] He's. funny. He's He's just He goes back and. now he goes back to his. >> to Georgia just they're have the. chariots next to him. People trying to. jump on the bus. It makes me so happy, man. Because you seen his whole journey. When he first came to New York, >> he was got linked up with [ __ ]. retards and these guys were morons. And. uh thank God he ran into Longo at the.

heads of Gracie Academy and uh and then. and then he found his way to Longos. And. then. >> that's a problem, right? If you don't. know where to go and you wind up at a. real bad camp and then they they claim. you forever. >> Oh man. He had him doing the gold he had. him doing the gold. >> Just like a bad wife. >> Yeah. This guy was a. >> That's what I always say. It's like a. bad marriage. >> Just like a bad marriage. Yeah. >> But uh he way. >> Yeah. Oh, you you guys are so good. You. and Longo without a doubt need a reality. show. >> You need some sort of reality show with.

you two guys coaching people and then. going to dinner talking [ __ ] It would. be a great show. I [ __ ] love it when. you guys I would really love it when you. guys were, you know, in the in the. corners when you get miked up. >> Talking [ __ ] The best. >> We have a good time. >> It's great. The two of you guys. together, it's a fun team. >> Everybody says that. Everybody wants to. see a show. I told him last night when. he's on your podcast, he's the best. I. have my You know what's so cool now, man? I have my 16-year-old over there. He's holding for her. It just makes me. That gets me emotional. Oh my god.

That's awesome. >> It's so cool, man. You know, he's 67. He's still [ __ ] going, man. Long. gone. >> He's the best. Ray's awesome. >> But you two in the corner are so. uniquely fun. It's so fun to watch. Like, if I was a television producer, I'm like, that is a no-brainer. >> We We took our guy down to the flag. pole. >> Maybe Paramount Plus. Listen to this. Parame New merger whatever was happening. content here that's exciting I guess. Paramount Plus show you and Ray Longo. Paramount Plus going to pizza places.

>> talking [ __ ] I'm not against it. >> going to the fights. >> going to the fights like talking about. your fight see it's like a built-in show. you have fighters that you're training. you you talk about how he's doing talk. about how he came to you this you two. guys just talk about the world. >> yeah [ __ ] out there somebody get. Listen, it keeps dinging. Is that me? God, I hope. >> It's not me, is it? >> It might be me. >> I don't think it's me. Pretty sure I've. airplaneed it. >> I think it's me. >> Yeah, it's uh it's totally uh a built-in.

show. Like, you can't miss. >> Ah, we have a good time. >> You You know what I mean? Like, you. should do it. >> You know, I. >> if you have the time. Yeah. >> All I'm all I'm doing is I You could. find me at my school or my podcast Matt. S channel on YouTube. I'm having fun. with that. So what? What guys? And then. uh dude, I'm having Dude, I do movie. reactions. You know what I do with that? I watch a movie and they. >> react in real time, >> dude. I'm just talking [ __ ] watching a. movie.

>> Oh, that's great. >> [ __ ] fun. I play my VR. >> which is [ __ ] fun. And then I have. people in like I had Morab and I Oh, I. had Keith Jardine the in the other day. >> Keith Jardine, man. Let's plug his new. movie. Uh what the [ __ ] Kill me again. Kill me again. Me and my wife went to. Tribeca for the uh and I saw Tate. Tate's in it. Your buddy Tate Fletcher. What a sweetheart. Tate. He's such a. nice big He's one of the guy you want to. hug. >> Big hugable person. >> Big hugable bear. And uh it's it's. almost this movie Kill Me Again, right?

He written and directed it. Keith. Jardine. And it's uh basically Groundhog. Day, but a serial killer. >> Oh jeez. >> Oh, it's [ __ ] It's really good. It. was. >> I mean, listen, I I wouldn't even bring. it up if I thought it was [ __ ] to be. honest. It was a fun movie. You can get. on Amazon. >> I believe you. >> Yeah. It's on Is it on Amazon Prime now? >> It's on Amazon Prime. You can buy it. It. came out August 8th. And uh. >> and I'm proud of him. And what a. sweetheart that guy is. Keith Jardine. >> Jardine's awesome. >> He was in a great movie called Shot. Caller. >> Shot. That was a good movie.

>> [ __ ] Jamie Landis. Jamie Landis. He. gets, you know, he's driving drunk. He. with his couple. He's like a yepy with a. another couple. He, you know, something. happens. The other the the guy gets. killed in the backseat, goes to jail. Kind of like, >> you know, white collared. Uh, but next. thing you know, he's got a [ __ ] show. He's not a [ __ ]. >> And now he's a hardened [ __ ]. He's [ __ ] shanking people. John. Bernthal's in there. Shot. You like it. Shot is. >> I remember that. >> Look at this. >> This was a good [ __ ] movie. And Keith. Jardine, he Keith Jardine is in this.

>> Did was Keith a bounty hunter? >> He No, he was in this called music. >> But was he a an actual bounty hunter in. his life? >> [ __ ] man. He didn't bring that up on. the show. I don't think unless he did, I. would have remembered that. >> See if that's true. He was uh I went over his whole [ __ ]. story. >> I hope I'm not imagining. >> He was more of a grappler than he was. even a striker. >> Yeah, he was a bounty hunter. >> Was a [ __ ] bounty hunter. >> Jarian worked as a personal trainer, firefighter, football coach, minor and. bounty hunter. Minor and bounty hunter. That's two of the hardest [ __ ] human. beings that have ever lived. Connected.

>> It's so funny. He's very soft spoken. though. >> He's very like nice. It's just like. >> he's a great guy. >> He looks like a [ __ ]. >> some awesome fights. I asked him if he. ever uh because I said, you know, sometimes I'm at a UFC thing and they. go, "Oh, yeah, Joe, can I have a. picture?" I go, "The wrong ball guy." I. asked him I asked him I asked him about. D. They think I'm Dana. I asked him, I. go, "Look," I go, >> "You got to answer this for me because. have you ever been mistaken for the. Techno Viking? Do you know who that guy? >> He does look like him. You know what? He.

does look like he looks exactly like. the Techno Viking is a [ __ ] guy. >> Jamie pointed out that that might have. been staged. >> Really? I don't know. That lookie Jamie. ruins it for me. The Technob Viking. >> Jamie does not like the wool being. pulled over his eyes. So he thinks that. everything is staged. >> I don't know that. Everybody's there. He. is Jordine came in. He kicks the guy. >> He looks just like Keith Jordan. Hey, it's already questionable that it's. being filmed and this guy's like center.

stage. >> Yeah, he's ready. >> You do have a point there. >> You got a point. >> Give this guy a bottle of water. Let's. go. Let's [ __ ] go. Let's go. >> Yes. >> If I was still clubbing, this is how I. >> Yeah, 100%. Look at him, >> boy. He's all mollied up. He's ready to. go. >> Oh, yeah. Mollied. He's probably got. >> That guy's a boss. >> He's probably got one of them cruising. doses in his system, >> right? He's got his minions behind him. carrying his. >> probably legit Viking jeans, too, man. At least some of them. >> [ __ ] looks like it.

>> Yeah. Got his Thor's hammer around his. neck. >> Well, he looks like the 21st century. version of it. >> Yeah. >> You know what? What the original Vikings. probably looked like those strong men. dudes you see coming out of Iceland. I. bet that's what showed up on the. [ __ ] Can you imagine that? A bunch. of half Thor Bjornson showed up. >> Bro, who's that guy? That Viking dude. that fights in Welterweight. He just. fought Chaos Williams. >> Oh. Um. Oh, the one looks like a [ __ ].

caveman. >> And he brought he. think. >> he got famous for being ugly. >> Is it Andreas? What is his name? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> He looks just like Keith Jardine. That's. crazy. >> Um, >> it is Andreas. Jamie, would you could. you go to uh Chaos Williams, Wikipedia, look up his uh MMA career because Cha. Chaos is [ __ ] good, man. He's. dangerous guy and. >> he got worn the [ __ ] out by this guy. >> This is another one of those dudes. What. me and DC have been talking about this.

like. >> extreme physicality is a tool, you know, and Coleman used to say this. Coleman. used to say that strength is a skill. >> and I was like it kind of is a skill. Andreas Gustiffson. Yeah, this guy's. [ __ ] terrifying, man. >> That is a different dude. >> And what you should see, go to Andreas. Gustoson workout. >> Just Google workout and this dude is. hardcore. power lifter. Like when you see some of.

the [ __ ] he's doing and the amount of. strength that this guy has, you're like, "Oh Jesus." Like there's guys that are. not that big, right? Like, you know, see. that janitor who pulls pranks on. Instagram who walks up to these these. big meat heads and lifts up the stuff. He's not that big though. But these. super strong dudes who practice. powerlifting, you can be incredibly. strong and not look like a bodybuilder. And that's this guy. He's a 185.

>> No, he's a 70. >> No, excuse me. 170. 170. >> Oh, man. >> But this [ __ ] is so strong, man. when he gets a hold of guys, he's just. ragdolling people. You know, Chaos has. been very consistent in his career with. good takedown defense. He knows how to. fight guys off, dangerous striker, and. he couldn't do [ __ ] to this guy. It was. like, he was all over one-sided ass. whooping. Like a real one-sided ass. whooping that I didn't expect.

>> I was like, that is uh I I thought it'd. be a good fight. And it was just a. mauling, man. >> I thought Chaos was going to clip him. He can easily have the power that Chaos. has. He puts guys out with one shot, but. this dude just tucks his chin down and. wades bombs at you until he gets a grip. on you and then just starts throwing you. around. >> It's 170. He's well. >> He's 170. >> I'll tell you who's the dark horse in. that division. Pretty impressive. >> Shawn Brady. Sean Brady.

>> I don't even think he's the dark horse. anymore. >> I don't Yeah, >> after that Leon Edwards fight, >> people aren't talking about him enough. though. That's what I'm saying, >> bro. That Leon Edwards fight was crazy. >> I'll be with them tomorrow with us. tomorrow. Yeah, >> dude. He's looking great showing. I love. his monster. He's a monster. >> It's so funny. I had him on and he's. like, you know, people always talking. about me being short for welterweight. and I'm 5'9. It's not like I'm 5'6 or. I'm like. short. I'm your fan. Come on, man. >> No, it's funny. But uh. >> turtle muscle on his back.

>> He's trying to get crush your head. muscle. >> He's trying to get that Ian Gary fight. I love his. >> Is that what he's looking for? >> Well, he'll fight anybody, too. >> Is this. >> Well, you know, I would love to see him. fight for the title. I mean, I think. that's a reasonable fight. >> like with Jack Dela. Like, who's next. after if Jack Dela and Islam fight, which seems to be exactly what's going. to happen. Who's next after that? Like, who's who's in number one position right. now? >> I think Ian Garry has to be up there. >> It's either it's it's Shawn or Bala.

>> Well, right. Ian Garrett has one loss, right? >> Yeah, because he just he. not comes out, right? Real close fight, but that one. loss set him back a little bit. So, Bal's number one, >> but you know, I bet they're going to want Bal to fight. somebody else. They they seem to have a. heart on for Bal, >> you know what I mean? The the the numbers don't mean that's.

the fight that gets made, right? Not. always. >> I think Shawn Brady's only the only. problem, the only one loss he has is. from Blow, right? >> Can you put that back up, Jamie, so I. can see who else is in there? >> No, man. >> So, it's like if you look at that. division, you know, that division has. gone through so many different changes. So, you've got Shavecott who just had. some kind of surgery that's undisclosed, right? We don't know what injury he's. recovered from, but he had like a pretty. significant injury apparently. And then. you got Leon.

Camaro. >> Michael Morales is the real dark horse. of that division, >> right? >> He [ __ ] Gilbert Burns up. >> He [ __ ] him up. Yeah, that that looked. like Gilbert just didn't belong in that. Sure did. >> And that's weird to see, right? I know. it's Gilbert. A lot of miles, a lot of. fights. >> Yeah. I like to see Shawn Brady get his. shot. >> That's what we working on. >> Dean Thomas, how he must be strong. >> He's strong as [ __ ]. >> He's [ __ ] strong. >> Yeah, he wears all of us. I dude I like. his positional his his jiu-jitsu is very.

>> very good for fighting. >> I'll tell you nowadays I can't even. watch some jiu-jitsu matches. I watch. it's just [ __ ] a lot of scissoring. And. >> I'll tell you what, man. I was blown. away by Kamaru versus Wim Buckley. I was. blown away. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. He looked great. He. looked good. He looked like Camaro the. champion. He. >> He looked like the champion. He looked. He looked like like if we was. challenging Camaro for the title, that's. the Camaro that you would expect to see. That's what he looked like. Yeah, he. >> good IQ, >> but also.

>> fight the ability to move, right? Like. you didn't seem hampered by his knees, all the things that people talk about. >> And that's what we thought it was going. to see. We thought it was just an old. ass man with them bad knees. >> Didn't look bad at all. And I think, you. know, it's a lot of it is mental. strength of sure, but it's also like he. hasn't really taken a lot of damage. other than the big high kick from Leon. And you know, if you go and you watch. his fights, this he had a pretty good. war with KBY before he won. I mean, they. they they exchanged a lot of blows. >> Um, you know, Gilbert dropped him.

Remember that? >> But but overall, not a lot of damage in. his career, mostly he's been the. dominator, you know, so even though he's. 37, I think. >> Yeah. Pretty fresh. >> I thought it was good to see him go back. to his wrestling roots a little bit. A. lot of times the wrestlers get good with. their hands and all of a sudden they. forget about what got him to the show. and he just straight manhandled. >> Yeah, he did. But he also looked good on. the feet, man. He looked good everywhere. in that fight. >> Disciplined and just good straight. punches.

Sean Brady looked great in his last. fight with his hands too. >> 100%. And to do that to Leon where you. know Leon knows he can't lose again. he, you know, lost the title and he wants to. come back and and get it back and now. all of a sudden you got this turtle. shell [ __ ] in front of you, >> right? >> Which seems insanely strong. >> How's Kobe still in these rankings? >> I was thinking when I saw it kind of. crazy. I wonder how much of that would. be like because he's still super. valuable. Like if you're Yeah. Because.

if you're a guy like why kick them out. if you're a guy like Shavecott and they. offer you Kobe, you know, in the main. event of a fight night or something like. that. Yeah. Like that's a great fight. >> for both guys. They'll probably make way. more money. So how does that work with. Paramont now? How does. >> I don't know to say. >> Here's the question. >> I thought you'd have the inside. >> Yeah, man. I I don't I don't talk to. Dane about business, >> right? >> You know. >> Yeah. >> I heard they're raising the uh. >> I'm more of a I'm almost a socialist. when it comes to that [ __ ] I would be. the worst. They would [ __ ] fire me.

for sure. I would change the pay. structure immediately, >> you know. Um, but I wonder if you're. new, there's no pay-per-view. Yeah. You. want a mint? >> That's a mind mint. That's neurogum. >> The neurom mints. >> I have the I had the gum. >> Oh, a mint. You want one? >> I need it for my [ __ ] brain. Give me. some of that. >> I got one left in here. >> Nice. >> Take the last one. >> Oh, thank you. >> It looks dirty on the outside. You want. some of that coffee? >> No, I'm I had I had a gummy. >> Yeah, you got some of them gummies. >> Yeah, I'm always giving myself mind. mints and all this [ __ ] and I'm still.

stupid. >> What were we just talking about? >> The pay structure. How you. >> So, so they used to get the money from. pay-per-view, right? So, if you're a guy. like Conor McGregor that's going to get. two million pay-per-views, like you get. a percentage of that and you know you're. set for life, right? You you get one big. one like that and woo. >> How does that work now? >> So, how does that work now? How does it. work now if it's for free? There's no. more pay-per-view. He did say I did hear. him saying he's up in the the fight. night. >> Yeah, the bonuses. I did see that. Yeah, >> the lowhanging fruit that's easiest to.

answer. Bonuses are obviously going up. That's great. Uh that'll be big. And. forget about the tide rising with all. the other fighters. Just the number the. bonuses bring to a fighter. It's. millions of dollars. Okay. Well, that's. great. Okay. So, then there's a bonus. structure like if that many people watch. your thing, you get millions of dollars. If that's what he's saying. >> That would be cool. >> That sounds great. That's Paramount's. got a ton of loot and this is a great. move for them. >> Good content, too. >> People are going to sign up for. Paramount Plus if you get free UFC's.

forever. >> That's great. And and South Park, right? And South Park and a bunch of other. shows, too. This is a shitload of shows. All of Taylor Sheridan's shows are all. Paramount shows. >> Yeah, actually. >> But did anybody see this coming? No one. saw this coming. No one saw this coming, >> bro. I'm tight with Dana and I talked to. him about we were talking about the. problems with this and the problems with. that, but I need to ask him this weekend. in Chicago if it's true that the uh. Netflix people wanted to stop the fights. in the Apex. >> They didn't want any fights in the Apex. They wanted fights with like big crowds.

>> Yeah. >> Like they were they wanted to be big. We. want it to be big big. >> Like all the all the fights big big. Yeah. One of the best heavyweight fights. of all time in terms of like the result. was Francis Enano versus Stipe Miocic. with no crowd at all in the apex in the. small ring. >> Yep. >> Yeah. >> It was like one of the best exper like. you you want to watch like a guy in his. prime who's [ __ ] terrified who's. figured it all out versus a guy who's. got a he's a legend. He's a champion but. he's got a lot of miles on him and.

there's a lot of wars and you see it. with no one there. Are you hearing the. huff and huff of each breath? Every time. Francis hits him, you you [ __ ] feel. that thud in your your your cells. >> Hey, you don't got to sell me, man. I. love watching fights at the apex. >> I love it. >> It's my favorite. >> Me, too. >> I I mean, I really believe that the. smaller cage just forces more action. That's why the fights are so good. I was. wondering if they would downsize the. arena cage because of the, you know, the.

quality of the fights that was in the. smaller cage. The problem with that is. like when you got a guy that is just. very footwork based and has developed. his style based on large. >> you're [ __ ] him. That's. >> he's developed his style based on his. ability to move around a fullsize cage. >> The Netflix thing is from a troll. account I think. >> Oh, trolls did it? >> I think so. >> Oh, that's good. Well, who knows why. they decided to not do it, but man, whoever gets the UFC and does the no. pay-per-view model, you just gained. millions of subscribers instantaneously.

>> But I'm also like, >> do you think it'll be better for the. casuals now that everybody. >> 100% 100% sure. >> cuz everybody's going to get every. pay-per-view now for free. You'll be. scrolling through the channels like, "Oh, let's see who's fighting.". >> Wonder how much money I'll save a year. now. Not buying, you know, save me 80 a. month or two. you know, you tune it in. and you watch one Alex Pereira highkick. knockout, you're like, "Oh shit." And. then you're hooked. >> And then then the next time it's on, you're like, "Oh, the UFC's on." And. then boom, you've got more fans. I mean,

it's the most exciting to the this. average spectator because you don't have. to know anything. >> You have to know [ __ ] to watch guys just. go to war. >> True. >> I'm just surprised that ESPN didn't. >> step up. Well, just Yeah. Well, >> I mean, at 7, that's what I'm saying. the 7.7 like they probably was like, "Nah, we're good.". >> Their app was [ __ ] anyway. >> Well, Paramount's giving them a billion. dollars a year for seven years. I mean, that's wild. That's a lot of loot. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I'm excited about that. Um, Aaron Pico.

>> Oh, yeah. >> This whole card is a very good card. >> Ron Murphy's no joke. >> I don't know. Who Who you got on this? >> I might be leaning Murphy's way. I still. am. >> Yeah. I think that the UFC jitters is a. real thing, man. It is. >> UFC jitters is a real thing. And Murphy. is no joke. He is super solid, super. technical everywhere. >> Good footwork. >> And if Aaron wants to be a boxer, this. kid is really explosive on his feet. Murphy got the wrestling.

>> Murphy is like, >> he does, but he don't use it enough. I. don't believe. >> Murphy to me is very much like Leon. Edwards in his prime at 145. Very. similar. Very similar. Strong. everywhere. Super technical. Doesn't. make any mistakes. He's good, man. >> I almost think he's a more aggressive. version, too. Leon could kind of cruise. at times where I think Murphy's looking. to finish it. >> He's world championship potential. He's. certainly world championship potential. So, >> he's coming on short notice, too. >> Who is Murphy? >> Yeah, but he's but he's a consmate.

professional type. They said straight up. he's ready. They said three weeks might. be too much time cuz he's ready all the. time. Well, this is the word out of out. of that part that camp is that guy's. always training and which is what you. want to see from a guy like that who's. undefeated and also not getting the. shine that a lot of other guys in that. division are getting. >> Props to him for taking the fight too. many fight good guys in that division, you know, and Ilio is such a star that. everybody with Vulcanowski in there, Ya,

and everybody kind of got lost. Diego, >> is this is it a five rounder? It's the. co-main event, right? >> It's a three rounder. >> It's a three rounder. Okay. >> Yeah. Oh [ __ ] that could change. Not. >> listed on the website as the co-main, but. >> I thought it was in their It is, but. it's But it's still three rounds. I read. that today, actually. >> Cool. >> Well, that changes things. >> One of my one of my paperworks. >> It's uh it's interesting because Pico is. really good, man. But I would have liked. to see him against someone, you know, to. establish a name for himself. >> I thought he had a really good shot at.

beating Mozar. Well, Mozar is crazy. because the grappling from Mozar is just. off the charts, but you're not dealing. with the kind of kicks that you're. dealing with with Murphy. Yeah, with. Murphy, he's he's going to chop you up. on the outside. And if you're heavy on. that front leg cuz you like boxing, like, ooh, a couple of those calf kicks. change everything. He's got a lot of. spinning attacks, lot of everything. He's a problem. He's a problem. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I thought Aljo beat. Alley cuz the round ended with with.

Mosar on top but he was dominating that. fight. I thought won that fight as well. >> I thought Al but it was close but I. thought Aljo won as well. Mosvar is very. very very good. But that's a good fight. for Pico cuz Pico is an elite grappler. and he's got real dangerous hands. Real. dangerous. >> I thought Pico would have beat him. >> It It would have been a great fight for. him. It would have been an interesting. fight for him. This is a different. fight. Yeah, >> this is a different fight and I think a. more dangerous fight in a lot of ways. just because of his style, >> the footwork. Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna be. tough for Pico. >> He's tough, man.

>> Murphy's tough. And again, he's one of. those guys that is way better than his. uh public like uh persona. Like people. don't know about people know about him. >> There's so many guys in that division, man. That division's crazy. >> It's filled with killers. Filled with. killers. >> This card's a good one, too. And uh Jeff. Lopez. >> Yeah. John Silva. >> John Silva. >> Bro, that fight is going to be crazy. >> Are you going to that? That's in. Guadalajara.

>> San Antonio. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was San Antonio. Yeah, >> it's in Texas. I might go to that. >> It's um that John Silva guy looks like a. world champion. There's another one. He. looks like a world [ __ ] champion. >> He's a character, too. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. The barking and [ __ ] I. like But bro, what he did to Bryce. Mitchell was just he sent him down. You. based him down the made yourself. lightheaded barking out at the at the. wolf earlier. >> Yeah. Yeah. I got a little lightheaded. >> The fact that he was like so relaxed and. laughing and like he's just he just knew.

it was a matter of time and then. submitted him and put him to sleep. >> What's funny about that is Bryce. Mitchell who just went down and wait. looked great. >> That's the right division for him. That's the right division for him. And I. mean he's got two choices. bulk way up. and cut down, which is what most of. these guys are doing. Yeah. >> Or go to 135, which he looked great. >> And that was just discipline for him. Just got to live a better life, >> right? Cuz he was never like real. ripped. No. At 45. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He's eating cornbread on the farm and. [ __ ] you know? >> I don't know what he eats. I'm sure he.

eats healthy. He's. >> He's I mean, he's a very good grappler. I'll tell you that. That guy's. dangerous. He's got good really good. jiu-jitsu. Really smart. I've seen a lot. of his uh tutorials online. like very. very good stuff. >> But you know, John Silva is just a. different thing, man. There's guys that. are just better everywhere. >> Yeah. And I thought he would have gave. Ilia a problem. >> I think so, too. >> Yeah. Like if I stayed down and he. fought John Silva, I thought that was. going to be a problem for Ilia. >> Yeah. Both have one punch knockout. power. And John Silva is a very good.

kicker. Yeah. >> Very It's different. Like Ilia does not. throw a whole lot of kicks and most of. them are to the legs, >> right? Ilia's not throwing any head. kicks. I'm sure he can. I mean, he might. do that just because we're talking [ __ ]. right now. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But what Ilia does do is he touches you. And that's what Faras Ahabi calls the. touch of death. >> He's got that touch of death. Man, when. he did that [ __ ] to Charles, I was like, I can't even believe I'm seeing this. >> They folded him. >> Folded him. >> I know. The night before. >> Remember we talked about that? Like, yo,

we I think we were in the back. We was. like, "Yo, this is crazy, man. No one no. one should be doing this." And he goes. out there and does it. Yeah, man. >> It's like Arnold on pumping iron when he. was remember he's telling LGNo at. breakfast I called my parents I won. already. >> That's a big difference though. All he. has to do is flex. >> in his underwear. >> Ilia had to go out there and knock out. Charles with one punch. That was wild. man. That dude has power. >> He looked good on the floor too. He was. >> He's a good like man. I saw, like I. said, I saw footage of him and Morab.

wrestling like, you know, I don't know. where they were and he I didn't see. anybody get caught in the in the video, but like Ilia just seemed to be one step. ahead in the in the wrestling exchanges, you know? So, he's def he's at least on. Morab's level and Morab's a savage. So, >> you know what he does? It's really. interesting. He he talked about it on. the podcast. He trains each sport. individually and then he puts them all. together. So he doesn't train MMA. jiu-jitsu. He trains jiu-jitsu with.

jiu-jitsu guys. So he trains with elite. jiu-jitsu guys, elite wrestlers. He. wrestles with elite wrestlers, boxes. with elite boxers, does everything and. then puts it all together himself. >> I mean, that is the way to do it. Mixing. it together, >> interesting how some camps don't do. that. You go there and you know, you. have everybody's doing MMA. He's like. entering into jiu-jitsu spaces, training. there, entering into boxing spaces. >> I think it's smart. because of that, like we all know that the boxing in. boxing is at a higher level than the.

boxing in the UFC. There's no way to be. as good as David Benvdz if you're not. boxing your whole [ __ ] life and doing. it every day and only doing that. There's no way you're not going to be as. good as him. >> For sure. >> And so we're we know that. So, but if. you can get more closer to that by. training with them and only training. with them, you get aliotia. >> Yeah. >> I mean, that's what you get. That's what. you get. You get a guy who's boxing with. boxers. >> Yeah, I think you retain more details. You know what I mean? >> But man, the discipline you have to have.

to do all those things with the same. kind of intensity and then put it all. together. >> Well, that's got a very like he's. >> and that's the benefit of not having. like this big camp doing it all. Like. when you're just by yourself and. everybody around you is helping you get. to these places and do those things, it's a huge benefit. >> Yeah. And it's also like today we know. what everybody else can do too. Like if. you're at a certain level like Ilia is. already, you know your abilities. Like. you don't necessarily have to be in a.

camp where there's a bunch of people, >> right? Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like you don't need that. >> Yeah. You know which guys you have to. bring in for sparring partners. >> Concentrate everything on you. That way. you're not dealing with all these dudes. in the locker room that maybe you got. beef with and Kobe's talking [ __ ] about. your girlfriend and you're just trying. to use the sauna. [ __ ] off Kobe. >> You know what I mean? It's like there's. something to be said for them really. small camps. >> Yeah. I think, you know, as we move. forward and evolve, man, I think that's.

the direction it's going. Like all the. big guys going to be like, "Yeah, for. sure." Could you imagine Floyd. Mayweather in class with everybody else? Right. Exactly. >> Okay. You go, I go. You like that [ __ ]. ain't happening yet. >> Exactly. With a blue belt jiu-jitsu. class. >> Yeah. Exactly. That's a good point. >> Yeah. I mean, and most of those guys. would take their camps outside, you. know, like Muhammad Ali did it, Tyson. did it. A lot of these guys, they would. go somewhere, go to Big Bear, La Hoya.

did that people back in the day. >> Yeah. >> Shoot. What about uh. >> Get away. >> Crawford and uh Canelo. >> What do you think of that? Personally, I'm a I'm a big Crawford fan, so I'm. gonna lean his way. My only my only. concern is just the size. Like, it. didn't look like Terrence's power. transferred in the last fight, so now up. some more. You know what I mean? >> Part of the problem with that is Majimov. is really good. He's really [ __ ]. >> I mean, but I I just think Crawford is. It's weird to say against Canelo, but I.

think he's the better boxer and I think. he's the guy who can make the better. infight adjustments if Canelo doesn't. kill him. It's going to be interesting, tell you that. >> What do you think? >> I don't know. You know, I'm I'm It's a. big jump to go from 54, which was a step. up from 47, >> right? So, it goes to 54 and now he's. going to 68. That's so much weight. A. >> lot of weight. >> But Terrence is I think he's the best. switch hitter since. >> Haggler. They claim Haggler was my. favorite. They I mean, they claim he's. walking around like a buck 90 or.

something. And And you do know he's a. wrestler. Yep. >> So, he's got that mentality to him. He. also built up slowly like he he took his. time like it's been a long time training. for this fight. He was he came on this. podcast more than a year ago and he was. talking about that that's the fight he. wants. >> and that was a long time ago. So he's. been trying to get that fight for a long. time. So knowing after he beat Errol. Spence that he wasn't ever going to. fight at that weight again and then. going up fighting Majimov and then. knowing he's got like at least a year. before he fights Alvarez, he got pretty.

big. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I like. >> Yeah. I'm leaning bud. Yeah, >> he's slick, man. He's slick. He's super. intelligent. Like, he sets traps. He. does stuff. And then, you know, there's. a bunch of great breakdown videos of. particularly the Errol Spence fight, like him setting traps. It's just he's a. very high level guy, but Canelo is. dangerous. He broke Billy Joe Saunders's. whole face. >> Broke his whole face. What he did to. Amir Khan, remember that [ __ ]. >> Oh, yeah.

>> Oh, lordy. Oh, lordy. And never been. down. Never been dropped. >> Yeah, Canelo is a stud. >> Yeah, Terrence him. They rented out the. Apex for a while. Was training there. Kids running kids running around all on. the mat. I was get these bad ass kids. out. >> He was using the Apex. Why was he using. the Apex? >> I don't know. I don't know. I'd see. every day. 30 people. You know what I'm. saying? 30 people. Yeah. Half of them in. suits. >> How many. How many times did he use it? >> Oh, he was there for a while. >> Really? >> Yeah. They was training at the Apex.

>> Interesting. And this was getting ready. for this fight. >> Yeah. Getting ready for this fight. Well, that makes sense because the UFC. is. >> co-promoting. Dana is a part of that. >> I saw on their website I saw like, you. know, buy the Canelo Crawford fight and. I in my head I was like, holy [ __ ] And. then I was like, oh yeah, Dana's. involved with this. >> Yeah, >> that's something you never thought you'd. see. >> It's interesting because it's like I. wonder how that's going to affect combat. sports. Like what's what's going to. happen? I mean, if the UFC model gets. all if they start making fights that.

people want. Like there's a lot of. fights that people just want that just. don't get like. >> if David Benvdas and Canelo Alvarez were. in the UFC that would be the fight to. make. The UFC would have to figure out. Hey guys. Hey guys. Like no no no no no. These are the guys. You guys have to. fight. Like this is the fight. Like. this. It can't be I'm going to do. something else. I'm going to fight Jake. Paul. No, it's got to be this is the. fight. >> They got to change their culture though, you know, cuz a loss in boxing means a. lot more than a loss in MMA. like the. MMA fans are more accepting, especially.

if the fight was good, where in boxing. >> their whole role is to build you to 20. so they can get you title fights and. they're finding people for you along the. way. So, >> well, Canelo lost to Bval and he lost to. Floyd and I don't think it really. damaged him that much. He's still a. superstar. Floyd, he was at that time. Floyd was the superstar. So I think it. probably I mean you know Floyd jumped. him at the right time and Beval uh like. I mean again Canelo was doing his thing. moving up in Wade and things of that. sort. So. >> yeah as far as business model I wonder.

if he's going to with Dana involved like. the problem with boxing is nobody gives. a [ __ ] about the undercard. They show up. for the main card. Is it possible for. him to make it as exciting as a UFC. where he's got the whole lineup where. his fights you want to see? Is there. that many boxers out there that. >> Oh yeah, for sure they can do that. And. that they're they're trying to do that. and that's one of the things that. they're doing with those Riad series. fights. >> Yeah. So like they're trying to create. the league and I think that's where it. gets all into the legislation and all. that stuff is changing the Ali Act and.

all that stuff. But. >> so I mean it it gets a little tricky, but I mean the the goal is to create a. league to where boxers can go and then. like losses won't mean as much. >> That might see that's that might change. right there because nobody really gives. a [ __ ] that much with the with the mixed. martial arts. You got your fan. favorites, you got guys you want to see, you got fights you want to make. People. give them [ __ ] about. >> Carrera got knocked out by Izzy and he. didn't lose any starting. Nothing. Zero. Exactly. And then he came back and won. the light heavyweight title. And. everybody's like, "He's back.".

>> Shooting his arrows. He's back. >> Best walk out ever. Best walk out ever. No one's walk out is like his. >> It's hysterical. >> Callum Walsh and Fernando Vargas Jr. fight. >> Fernando Vargas Jr. >> That's great. >> Yeah. So, these are two good fight. There's there's two good fights under. underneath that as well. But it's like. um they're gonna have to do this. consistently and build these people up. and have, you know, real good video. series like the UFC does with embedded.

and what they do with uh the countdown. shows and just really get everybody. excited about it. >> I mean, is that a is that a bad thing. though for that? I mean, because people. are being critical of the idea of that, but to me it sounds like a good thing. >> No, it's. >> to get a bunch of high-end fights on one. card. >> Well, no. I'm just saying like the idea. of like a league for boxers to where the. there's a promotion that will do stuff. like that for them cuz boxing's not. doing it for them. >> They got. >> Well, it's all in how much money is. getting distributed, right? So, the the. boxers that make a lot of money are the.

Canelos, the Floyds, the people that are. superstars, they make a lot of money, but dudes that fight on undercards that. you're watching on TV don't make [ __ ]. And that's where everybody gets. confused. You watch UFC fights and there's people. that are under undercards that are. making way more money than the undercard. people in a boxing match. Way more. money. >> Tons. >> Yeah. So, it depends on who's on the. card. You know, it really. >> the the the majority of the money, I'm. sure, is going to the top guys, whereas. in the UFC, it's probably a more.

>> spread through a little more spread. through a bigger middle class. >> Yeah. But they don't have a highend. that's the same. Like Usyk made 114. million something like that for his last. fight with Duba. >> That's possible. >> How many buys? >> Dubis made like 70 something million. >> They're just throwing that oil money. >> Might might even be selling Usyk's. number wrong. I think it might have been. like 130. >> That's ridiculous. >> You know, crazy money. Crazy money for. that Dubois fight. So that that's the.

difference. So that's only possible with. the boxing model, >> right? So the the the the guys who eat. the most are going to eat the most most. with the boxing model, but the people. underneath that are not going to be. doing. >> you think that fight made any money. >> Like if if you're if I'm giving 200. million out between the two guys that. are fighting the fight, they're not. getting that many pay-per-views. I don't. know where the money come from, >> bro. They got that black gold flowing. >> Yeah, I was about to say that's crazy. But how do you sustain that business.

model though if if that's how they're. doing it right now? Like people scream. about these guys making more money, but. like the UFC would be out of business if. they paid that money cuz they're just. not bringing that money in. >> or get the Saudis to pay everybody the. same. Like let's let's take advantage of. that black gold. That's right. >> Those dudes don't give a [ __ ] That. money for them is like me ordering a. pizza. Like, hey everybody, you guys. want a pizza? I'll make a call to get a. pizza delivered. They don't give a [ __ ]. They're making insane amounts of money. Like we don't even know how much money. they have because it's not public. It's.

not like us like you know like Bezos has. to like disclose his wealth like the. richest man in the world like are you. sure? >> Yeah. Well, you got to think this got to. be so much if they're paying these guys. $100 million to box. >> To box not even do nothing like world. changing box. >> That's why Canelo was holding out with. Benvitas cuz the number that I heard was. that 200 million. He wanted $200 million. to fight Benvdas. >> God bless. >> Well, that seems like they're kind of. close to that. >> Yeah. Well, you know, if they're they're.

getting in the 130s for Usyk, this is. crazy. That's so much money. >> to guarantee somebody. >> You gota if they do a new model, they. they got to like look the early prelims. [ __ ] I don't miss those. You got you. got Edson Barbosa on early prelims. versus deep, man. >> I mean, that's a [ __ ] sick fight. right there. >> Yeah. Two guys that want to bang it out. >> I like that Traclo. He's never had his. his quite his day. like he gets to a. certain level. >> and then.

uh what is his name? [ __ ]. >> uh. Barouch Bar. Yeah, >> Dar. Yeah. >> Give me another mint from the ring. >> You know looked great in his last fight. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Vanil looked real good. >> against Moano. >> He looked real good against Moano, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He's he's a great fighter and he's. getting a little bit older, too. You. know that he fools you with that gray. hair. >> I was about to say he looks like he 506.

>> Yeah, he's not that old, man. >> He's a savage. He did great in that. Moano fight. >> Yeah, he's very good, man. It's a It's a. great great time for watching fights, >> you know. >> Who else is on the card this weekend? I. was. >> Jeff Neil and that's right. >> Tim Elliot and. broz. and Jeff Neil. That could be a banger. And I think it all depends on which Jeff. Neil shows up. >> 100%. A 100%. >> If the good ones show up, I think he. knocks Protest out. >> How about I think Carlos Pratas takes.

this in the first round with a knockout. >> Oh, and then it's Jared Cananeer and. Michael Paige. That's the puzzle. How. about how that dude just goes from. middleweight to welterweight. Doesn't. give a [ __ ]. >> Just And no one even seems to talk about. the fact that he's going up and down in. weight. >> I'm a huge fan. He's like 6'4. >> I'm a huge fan. No, he's. >> crazy that he can make light that he can. make welterweight, but also. >> Chase Hooper fight, I think. >> The only person who figured him out was. Ian Gary. You got to drag him to the. ground.

>> Yeah, man. >> Brian Bo and Roua. That's a good fight, too. >> That's a good fight. >> That dude is gigantic. He was. welterweight for a while, too, but he. couldn't. Yeah, remember? Yeah. >> He lost to Wee. >> Yeah. >> He was like a 65 welterweight, >> but he hits hard. >> Dangerous. Dangerous dude, boy. Yeah. So. he went up to 185. >> Yeah, he trains in Philly. I think he. was out training with Hamz out a little. bit though for Yeah, a little bit for. this camp. >> Was this his second or third. middleweight? Because he he quit what I. think that last Buckley fight he was.

like enough of this welterweight. [ __ ]. >> These guys are killing Brian Battle is. so is I love when he [ __ ] second. fight. >> Brian Battle fought in uh France, was it. in Paris? >> Oh yeah. Yeah. He's like, >> "There's no way you think I'm going to. lose a fist fight to a French dude with. him. There's no way to put him. He's. going to lose.". >> A lot of fun, man. Brian was a lot of. fun. >> To a French dude. >> They're all booing him. Oh, it was.

[ __ ] awesome. >> Well, everybody's got to remember that's. what Colby did when he beat Dame in. Brazil. less classy though. Like. >> way less classy. But he was going full. WWE heel. >> It saved his life. It saved his career. >> Oh, it made him millions. >> It made him millions. >> cuz they were cutting them. >> Yeah. >> Nah. Yeah. Something to be said. I. agree. >> But there's something to be said if. you're if you're purely businessminded. Talk a lot of [ __ ]. >> Yeah. About people's dead fathers, about.

their wives. What a piece of [ __ ]. >> No. His way. >> You know what I mean? Yeah. You You talk. like that. You're looking over your. should. He could be having a cup of tea. in [ __ ] London a year from now or 10. years from now. If Leon Edwards runs. into him, what do you think's going to. happen? >> Remember you brought up my dead father, [ __ ] I mean, dude, there's. stuff some stuff you could do for the. entertainment, but then hey, man, we. talked about repercussions, bro. You. want to talk about somebody's wife or. kids or or a dead parent? >> Well, it's the same thing. Even with. Connor in the beginning he was a funny. [ __ ] talker and then it seemed later in.

the career it was more almost like force. like trying to be dark. You know what I. mean? >> Got darker. >> It's no funny. >> Well, it's also you're dealing with. people that are dealing with the. pressures of being at the top of one of. the most dangerous occupations in the. world. And every day when you go to bed, you know there's some dude out there. that wants to kick you in the [ __ ]. dick. Like. >> he's out there right now. he's out there. training and that pressure like. sometimes wears on guys and over the. course of time they get like.

neurological fatigue like like you're. just fatigued from the just the strain. don't give a [ __ ] no more you just start. angry and and then you got CTE and you. know so there's a lot of things going on. >> I mean also the pockets get fatter and. you're under that microscope even more. >> and then there's. [Music]. If you want to hang out, you got to take. a route.

>> Gets crazy. >> And he probably gets the good stuff. I. might try Conor's Coke. You know what I. mean? I've never tried Coke, but if I. was going, I'd try it from Connor. >> Man, it's not even like hiding it, man. I hate. >> Bro, you got to love that part of him. He don't give a [ __ ]. >> He's a pure savage. Yeah, he don't care. about. >> he's a pure savage. And that's also why. he was so good at fighting, man. In the. middle of the José Aldo fight, I. remember looking in his eyes and um. watching how calm, like genuinely calm.

he was. I'm like, "This guy just" and. Dana said it best. He's like, "He eats. pressure. He just eats it. He likes it. He wants it to be chaos.". >> A lot of guys say that, but they don't. really believe it. >> Yeah, I was I was at that fight. Thank. you, Joe. And uh when he came in, like I. tell this story to everybody about him. When he came in, did his thing, he ran. around the cage and then he went in the. center of the cage and he just [ __ ]. went like this. >> Yeah. >> And the place erupted and I was like, "God almighty, how [ __ ].

>> Was that when comfortable. >> did I think she came?" She did the walk. out for that one. >> It was one of them she did the walk out. song for and she sang it live and it was. bone chilling. Right. >> Oh [ __ ] You know what's a funny thing. is when you see a clip of him saying. that there's somebody's interviewing him. and he goes about partying. He goes, "Partying is weakness for your soul or. some [ __ ] like that." And then there's a. clip of him now like. >> [ __ ] going at least he's. >> the blade music. [Laughter].

right. >> that opening scene. >> But no, he he was man he was something. else. This Chad Mendes fight like how. much [ __ ] he was talking to him but just. still in it. Like even he got rocked, he. goes down, he still comes up and still. knocks him out. >> Eddie Alvarez fight. >> New York. >> My god. I mean going up to challenge for. a second world title and hitting the. Matrix.

>> Full Matrix in a fight with a killer. Like Eddie's a [ __ ] killer, man. What. he did to Rafael Dos Sanjos to win the. title. Wild performance. those fights. that he had with Chandler that those. guys took 10 years off each other's. lives and. >> sorry my ass go. >> sorry. >> we got those toilets that have the um. >> love your toilets. >> they're the best there it is she goes. >> the fight before. >> yeah this was the Chad Mendes fight UFC. 189. [Music].

[Music]. [Applause]. And the best part about this is how he. walks out with this giant [ __ ]. leprechaun smile on his face. >> Yeah. Watch this. Get to where he walks. out, >> Jamie. [Music]. While the world.

[Applause]. >> that dude just knew how to handle. pressure. >> Yep. >> He thrived in it. [Music]. >> All right, Jimmy. That was a fight that. he couldn't even grapple. He couldn't.

even grapple in training camp. He [ __ ]. his knee up. And it's one of the reasons. why Chad was able to take him down so. easily. He had a hard time training for. that fight. >> [ __ ] Chad up. [ __ ] up. >> We got to give Chad He got up off the. sofa for this one, too. >> Oh yeah, he did, too. >> Took it on what, Seven Days or. something. >> Y bro, Chad's second fight with Aldo, he. got [ __ ]. >> I remember I reached out to him after. the fight. I'm like, damn, dude. Because. the the first round after the bell, Aldo. cracks him. Mhm. >> and rocks him like for the first time in. the fight he got rocked and clearly.

after the bell I'm like damn. >> that's terrible that after you got. knocked out by the guy in the first. fight you come back in the second fight. the first round's wildly entertaining. and then you get hit with a shot after. the bell. Yeah. >> I mean it was still a great fight. though. >> It was still a great fight but it makes. me wonder like if that shot doesn't land. that that's a real shot man. That was a. different That was like a real like. you're almost out shot. >> And if you get hit with one of those in. a fight, that significantly changes the.

fight. >> Yeah. >> Significantly changes. Give me some. volume. >> Left on the side of the head of Mendes. >> Uppercut. >> See, Chad still hasn't recover. >> I mean, that's way after the buzzer. Way. too. >> And that dropped him. >> But Aldo was coming on strong. Clearly, Aldo was coming on strong. >> Y dude. Prime Aldo. I don't know who's. better. Like that guy is a [ __ ]. monster. >> It's amazing how good he still is. When. he fought Sahabi and I think he laid his. gloves down.

>> Yeah. >> I was like, damn, dude. He's still. really [ __ ] good and really fast. >> and down a weight class instead of up as. he got older. Most guys don't go down. weight class. >> I know. But I mean, when you look at how. muscular he is at 45 and then you think. about like what Max did to him, that. muscle comes with a price, you know? And. when Max start put that pace on him, like Max was the first guy to really. expose him and put that pace on. >> Jose was all fast twitch. You know what. I mean? Remember when he double kneed. [ __ ] cub swans?

>> How about this? Morab didn't take him. down. >> I know. Couldn't take him down. >> How crazy is that? >> He does have great takedown defense. >> 38 years into his career, right? Like. and Morab couldn't take that guy down. >> Couldn't take him down, >> bro. He his bounce is crazy. >> He to what? He took down uh what's his. name? Peter Yan like 10 times, right? Couldn't take down Aldo. >> Couldn't take Aldo down. Yeah, that's. wild, man. >> And Aldo's jiu-jitsu was good. Very. good. >> Here's that double knee. >> Like, right. What the [ __ ] man? And Cub.

is a was a stud, too. >> Oh, bro. He was a monster. He Aldo was a. Look, he's trying to hit him even after. the referees pulled him off. >> WC was. >> double knee to the dome. >> They had some talent. >> Oh, yeah. For sure, man. And this was. when Aldo was in his book. >> He was different. kicks. >> Remember he murdered leg kicks. >> Oh my god. Yeah. Uriah like that leg was. [ __ ] up, man. >> Yeah. He told me two weeks he was on. nuts. Two weeks he was he was on. crutches. He said. >> Yeah, man. He was in his prime. He was.

something really special. >> But you know, it's like how long can you. keep that up? He's kept it up more than. anybody. Like really because he's still. at a world cl like a world class caliber. at bantamweight. >> I mean he dude for 10 years nobody. touched him. That's a long time to rain, especially in a weight division like. that where just keeps coming. >> He just kind of gassed out in that last. round because he was going for the. finish. He emptied out and Zahabi. survived. >> Yeah, I I mean I you could make an. argument for Aldo in that it was a close.

fight. I didn't think he got stomped out. or nothing, >> but I mean how good was he to himself to. know that he's retiring probably because. he feels like he can't do it at the. level he knows he can and he's still. doing it at a high level. You see what. I'm saying? But in his head, he's like, "I'm not doing it at the level I want to. be able to do it, so I'm just going to. retire.". >> Crazy. Crazy. Yeah, that division, man. Between 35 and 45, it's it's interesting. that 25 gets so little love. Like Panto. is only 10 lbs lighter and he's.

>> I know. I know. >> He's loves him. >> He's a straight up killer. A straight up. killer. >> It is crazy though. Like nobody cared. about Mighty Mouse and that guy was. maybe the top martial artist in the. league. Oh, that take down to arm lock. that time. >> I don't know if you'll ever see. something like that. >> But it's crazy that it's only 10 pounds. >> I know. How do you know? How does know? >> Yeah. Like you don't even you can't tell. the difference. Like how do you Yeah. Why? How can you tell the difference? >> People get real weird. They get real. weird. >> They just have this bias towards Well, I. mean it was like our [ __ ] Like we were.

lightweights and they cut our division. after that little tournament. >> Yeah. >> And who who' thought that the. lightweights would be the best division. in. >> going away too. They asked me to go back. up to welterweight. I didn't just go, "All right, let me [ __ ] I was making. weight. I was beating guys, you know.". >> Well, the UFC just had a weird position. I mean, when when before it really took. off, they they were just trying to. figure out like, we got to figure out a. way to make money doing this thing. What. people what do people not want to see? And if if someone has this idea, oh, the. problem is the lighterweight divisions. Like,

>> those are the most exciting. They talk. about. >> Look at it now. Like the craziest fights. we've seen, 35, 45, 55. Panto is a great. champ, man. I mean, he defended it what, three, four times. What do he do? >> Well, he's so good, too. >> And he massacres everybody. >> Great chitsu. He's got really good. striking. >> Yeah, he's. >> takes takes torture well, too. >> Yeah, he's an animal. He's an animal. >> I think. >> he made Ka France look bad. >> And that first fight was good. >> I know. >> They had a good fight like nine years. ago or eight years ago what it was, but.

the difference between how much better. Panto got was right away was obvious. >> He's another guy. He was doing Uber Eats. when he was here fighting in the UFC and. he's still [ __ ] working. He's a real. humble guy. He's like a real. >> Yeah. >> Just the sweetheart of a guy. Good for. him. You know, it's a guy you want to. see do well. >> Exactly. But that's why I wish the guy. got more love. It's like I don't. understand. >> You know, if he was 145, he'd be a. superstar, >> right? You know, >> just the idea of being a flyweight just. has people spooked out to root for him.

>> I know. >> I don't get it. >> Yeah. >> It's weird. >> It's weird. But it's always been that. way. Even Cejudo, you know, when he was. the champ and, you know, when Mighty. Mouse was the champ, like kind of with. everybody. >> Yeah. >> Figuredo didn't get the love that he. deserved. Brandon Royal. >> Rob's getting the love. >> He's getting a lot of love. >> Yeah. >> But it's always like It's always like, "Yeah, but they're flyweights.". >> Yeah, I know. Yeah, but flyweights are. worse division. No, they're not. >> Like what? I wonder what the biggest. flyweight pay-per-view of all time was.

Like how many people, >> you know what I mean? It would have to. be. >> It's got to be pretty low. It would have. to be a Mighty Mouse one probably, wouldn't you think? >> I saw him talk. I don't know. Maybe the. more pay-per-view buys these days. >> Yeah. Yeah. I would think that it may. have been when Pantoia did it in Brazil. cuz they probably had a lot of. Brazilians on the card. So, >> right. Pantoia. That was a good fight, too. >> But I bet it's. >> not high. >> Yeah, it's got it's pretty low. >> Yeah. >> [ __ ] man. I en I enjoy it. I enjoy.

>> I enjoy all the [ __ ] weight. It's all. I watch, man. Even though I can't even. watch the boxing. I wish I could. I. don't know. It's just so It's not nearly. as entertaining as the mixed martial. arts. And the fact that there's one on. like every week. I just. >> I need it to be a good one. Like I like. a a two good boxers. I'll I I'll tune. in. I'm a boxing fan, too. But I mean, if I have a choice, I'm going to watch. that. >> Did you watch Usyk and Dubois? >> I did. Yeah. Usyk's like Usyk is like. Lemanchenko plus 100 pounds. Like, you. know, >> he's got great footwork. He's a great.

technical boxer. And now he's starting. to put people out, too. before he was. just out boxing people. So, >> especially Dubois when you see what he. did to AJ in that last fight. >> What is he going to do? He's beat. everybody twice in the heavyweight. division. Who who do they have left for. him? >> Well, Tyson Fury was talking about. coming back, but then it looks like he. changed his mind. >> He decided he like it's a young man. sport. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He's not wrong. He's not that old. >> He's not. He if anybody could have. beaten him it could have been Tyson Fury. in his prime because particularly you.

know in you know in moments in the first. fight especially in the early rounds. before he got dropped in the ninth he. was doing really well he was lighting. him up more damage than ever seen Usyk. take in a fight ever. >> Mhm. >> And more clean shots that were landing. >> I I mean look Tyson was a fantastic. boxer too. Like don't let the dadbod. fool you. I mean, he was light on his feet, you. know, very technical. >> Like, I mean, he obviously has a size. and reach advantage over Usyk. And when.

when he gets that jab popping, he's. tough to beat. >> Yeah. It's not just a jab. He's got a. slick uppercut. He's got a crisp right. head movement. His defense is slick. >> He's an alltime great boxer. All time. great. >> Is Francis still boxing or is he doing. MMO? >> He's going to do both. >> Is he going to do it again? >> Yeah. They were talking about setting up. a Francis Deontay Wilder fight. >> That would be interesting. that should. they they need to do they need to make. that happen. >> But boxing you always get sucked in. It's like there's these story like are. they doing that? Are they doing that? No, they don't do it. Are they doing it? Are they doing it? And they don't do it.

>> I mean that's one of the problems with. the sport. >> Well, this is the Benvitz Canelo. situation because if you ask the average. if you want a hardcore boxing fans dream. fight, it's not necessarily Canelo and. Crawford, which is a great fight, >> but you got this thing where Crawford's. jumping off all this weight. You're. like, man, I don't know. But the great. fight is Canelo Benvdas. Everybody knows. it, >> right? >> Everybody knows it. That's the fight. Can't make it happen, though. >> It's been going on forever. Pacquiao. should have Floyd alone. >> That's what I was about to say. Like, it. happens all the time. You can't never. make the big fights happen,

>> right? >> That has to happen. That that fight has. if you if boxing is to be complete, if. the circle of power is to be folded over. onto whatever if the the the rocks you. get for your ring, whatever Thanos gets, that [ __ ] Infinity Stones. >> Oh, sorry guys. Now I'm back in the. conversation. He go he had the gauntlet. All right. >> If that that's the only way it happens. Like you have to have that fight. That's. that's the fight. And if they [ __ ] that. up and if like he goes up and now now.

Benvdas is fighting light heavyweight. more you know it's like. >> I don't think it happens. In fact I. don't even Terrible. >> I don't think it happens or it's going. to be too late. >> Canelo just got back surgery. >> Did he? >> No [ __ ]. >> Yeah. He had it on his Instagram. He. said his back's been [ __ ] with him. for 10 years and he finally got surgery. Like. >> yeah, well that might or might not help. >> Bite back surgery is always like. >> 50/50. [ __ ] I had I had one and I knock. on wood it gave me my life back. I had. sciatica [ __ ] horribly.

>> Would you get which surgery? >> Um they Well, they did a laminctomy from. like L2 all the way through S1. >> Oh, so all of them were bulging. >> like uh well I had I had stenosis of is. what was happening. So, the bones were. growing and and pushing on the nerves. I. mean, I would get up in the morning and. be [ __ ] holding my wall to get to the. bathroom. But, uh, >> and still rolling back. Son of a [ __ ]. >> Still rolling. That's how dumb you guys. are. >> Dude, you feel bad. >> Like you said in the beginning, 40 years. old. Always a hurt. >> Your back shit's the worst, man. I had.

to get an epidural shot. >> Yeah, I remember when I blew my I tried. the first time. >> When you fought GSP the second time, your back was [ __ ]. >> It was back night in January, New Year's. Eve. I couldn't I could hardly walk. But. uh and then I got a the Dr. Yasha, one. of my black belts. He I went to the. city, got the an epidural shot, >> and that [ __ ] started to bring me. back. >> Yeah. But I I literally couldn't walk, dude. When I would go to brush my teeth, >> I couldn't posture myself back up.

>> It is the worst thing ever. >> To think about that and then knowing. that you have a cage fight coming up. against a guy who's the best wrestler in. the division. >> That's what I said. How do you fight. that [ __ ] with a bad back? >> Yeah. Well, [ __ ] You saw a rematch. The. [ __ ] The first one's way better. Not. >> a [ __ ] But uh yeah, >> there's stuff that you can do for your. back, but man, it takes a long ass time. to heal back injuries naturally. >> What's What's going on with yours? You. were saying. >> mine's a lot better now, man. And one of. the things that I made sure I did this.

year is I do twice a week I do lower. back exercises like core exercises with. twists and turn lifting like do back. extensions with weights. That changed. everything. >> Yeah. I do I do hypers and a reverse. hyper machine for my lower back. >> I do that too. Yeah. It used to bother. me when I would play pool I'd be done. I'd be like real stiff and that. completely went away. >> Good. And really what it all [ __ ] up. was from archery because you know you. pull one way all the time and this side.

started getting this. >> it's almost like a tendinitis. No, no, no. I just ignored it and beat it into. the ground and even though I was in. pain, I still kept shooting while I was. in pain. So I [ __ ] it up for months. >> Now I draw I have a cable pulley system. at my my gym. So I hold a 10 lb weight. and then I draw 80 lbs like I'm pulling. a bow and I pretend I'm shooting a bow. I do that for as many reps as I shoot. arrows. I do that with my left side. So, >> I'm more balanced now. And then the. lower back exercises, but [ __ ] it takes.

forever. >> to not if you don't if you want to. really heal something and really get it. better and not get surgery, it takes. forever. >> Let me ask you with the with the bow. hunting, why what do you got against the. gun? What makes you want to Is it more. primitive? Is it more primal? >> It's definitely harder. >> It's more that for sure. It's more. difficult for sure and it requires more. concentration and. it's much easier to [ __ ] up and that's. why I like it. >> It's harder. >> But is it more satisfying.

to animals too? >> Can't compare. I've shot a lot of. animals with a rifle hunting and it's. great. It's very effective. It's real. smart. It's a good way to hunt. If you. if you're hunting for food, like if I if. I had to provide food for my family, I. would 100% be hunting with a rifle. 100%. No questions asked if that's what. I'm doing. But what I'm doing is I'm. trying to get meat with my hobby. >> So my hobby is archery. And it's it's. like calling it a hobby is like a little. disrespectful. >> It's almost It sounds very corny, but.

it's almost like a spiritual journey. Like you're going to the woods and. you're sneaking up. I I'm doing it with. a guide. There's a good friend of mine. and we go together and um we're sneaking. up on these animals that are trying to. avoid mountain lions and bears and. you're getting within archery range of. them and just launching a perfect arrow. and that's how you're getting your food. So every time you eat your food, it's. the best food in the world, but you're. also thinking how you got it. Like you.

worked hard for a whole year to prepare. for it. You train for it. I do cardio. for it. I do weighted I carry a weighted. backpack. I put this [ __ ] 45 pound. plate on my back and I walk around for. hours. I do a bunch of [ __ ] with it. these these different exercises just for. hunting training. >> Well, how how much is how close is. archery range? Like how close you had to. get to them? >> Um I'm comfortable any anything uh. inside 70 yards if if I don't think the. animal's like moving a lot. So, if an.

animal's moving a lot, like in the rut, sometimes they're fighting other males, so they'll run at each other and they'll. come back and like then you can't take a. shot like that because they're not going. to be there when you shoot the they're. moving so fast it's not ethical. With a. rifle, you could. >> With a rifle, you just need them to stop. for a second. >> Just stop for a second. Boom. >> And you got him. >> Did you ever shoot him but miss the kill. shot? You got to go over to it and. that's cutting his throat. >> No. What are you doing to do that? I. mean, it's a horrible thing to think.

about. You. >> hit them with a second arrow. You know, even if even if you hit them perfectly, and I've hit an an elk perfectly before, they don't if they don't go down, they're standing there. If they're long. as they're standing, you hit them with. another arrow, >> and that usually takes them out. >> Yeah. You got you quickly as possible. You got one, not enough. Now, you got to. track them down. >> They're they're so tough. You you you'll. track them and you're like, "This is so. much blood. There's no way this thing's. not going to be dead 5t from here." And. then you'll find them 800 yards away. dead.

>> It's crazy. >> They're so tough because you're you're. dealing with an animal that's like every. day is mountain lion season. Every day. there's mountain lions just sneaking up. on them everywhere, >> you know? >> You know, and the, >> you know, if they make it to be seven, eight years old, which is when I start. hunting them, like these [ __ ]. are gangsters. They're gangsters. They're wise. Some of them have one eye. cuz they got their eye poked out by. another dude cuz they get those antlers. and jab in each other's faces. >> My favorite meat is the uh the venison.

>> Oh my god. I like. >> Have you had elk meat? Have you had any? >> I don't think so. No. God, I wish you I. wish you lived here. I'd give you some. >> My My father-in-law, he gave They say. it's game frozen stair. I have frozen. elk out there right now. If I had a. freezer box, I could give you one. >> [ __ ] man. I mean, my cuz they say that. the venison, they say it's gy or. something, dude. Not the way he makes it. like a he he I so [ __ ] good. >> It's all in taking care proper care of. it once you shoot it. If you let the. animal like lay out in the heat or if.

the meat gets dirty or if you. accidentally cut the glands, they have. these tarsel glands on their legs that. that's a nasty smell that they're. putting out so that the ladies hear it. You know, the ladies smell it rather and. the other men know that they're there. If that stuff gets on your meat, you're. [ __ ] Like there's a lot of it is like. bad preparation, bad care, but if you. take care of venison and do it well, it's the best meat. Delicious. >> So delicious, man. I I I I love that. [ __ ] I don't have it often, but when I.

do, it's my favorite, man. >> The UFC PI should be serving that [ __ ]. I bet they serve like buffalo, though, which is also. >> How's horse meat? You ever try that? >> I did try that. >> How is it? Petco, remember that? >> I tried it in Montreal. In Montreal, there's a place called Joe Beef. Shout. out to Joe Beef. One of my favorite. restaurants in the world. It's. incredible restaurant. >> I went there. >> Um, it's it's [ __ ] great. >> Does it make you feel powled out? Is it. tasty? >> Oh, well, I didn't ask for it. Let me. just say that. They served it to us. They was like the guys who run it are.

awesome. We know them. I knew I met them. through Bourdain. And so, they just uh. served us whatever they wanted to serve. us. And one of the things they gave us. was it was like a loin of a horse. And I. was like, really? Like this is like. tenderloin, like horse tenderloin. And. it was really good. It tasted like game. meat. >> I actually went to Joe Beef with Vtor. Belelfford and Shawn Brady. >> Oh wow. >> Oh wow. >> Yeah, it was a good restaurant. >> That's cool. >> That's cool. >> Fogo the chowo last night.

>> Just [ __ ]. >> wearing it out. >> Yeah, man. That. >> with the dark lord John Danaher. >> Yeah. How's he doing? He's doing good. >> He's good. He wasn't in a rash guard. He. was wearing a jersey. >> He had a jersey on. Yeah. >> What? >> When he walked up, I was like, "What the. hell?" And he's walking very nice. >> It's sure his hips are [ __ ] up for a. while. >> So, did he get both of his hips replaced. now? >> He's always got he's teaching over. months out of his second hip surgery. >> He looks It makes you wonder like a guy.

who's that smart and that driven towards. jiu-jitsu. Like what would happen if he. didn't have a crippled body? >> Oh, I know. >> You know what I mean? >> Well, even with a crippled body when he. was rolling, he. >> Yeah. He used to [ __ ] people up. I know. Isn't that crazy? like blown apart knee, you know, reconstructed to the point. where it doesn't even like fully extend, right? Has to get what what has he. gotten replaced so far? >> I mean, I know both hips. Did he get a. knee, too? >> He might have got his knee. >> cuz he said after the hip damage his. knee so bad that he thought he's going. to have to get the knee done, too. >> Oh, he's walking great, though. I was so.

happy. Yeah, he looked good. >> I'm like, man, >> look good. It's always good to see him. >> Yeah, that's that's my thing now. I get. to see him when I come out here. Your. knee doesn't [ __ ] with you, right? >> My left knee? No, but I [ __ ] the one. thing that really is, if I could just It. just haunts me is cuz I [ __ ] up where. you're supposed to step down with your. bad leg when you get the surgery. I went. up I went to put up a curt my curtain. I. stepped down and if you see I'll just. show you here. >> See this missing here?

>> Yeah. >> Damn. My bicep. I tore you to my core. Oh man. So, >> and it's. >> so [ __ ] when I sometimes I'll it'll. dip like I it you know. So, it it sucks. I went to go butterfly sweep. I felt it. get real tight. So, I got the stem cells. shot right in that [ __ ] That's the. only one that hurt cuz they said they. had nowhere to go. >> But they can't reattach it. >> I would had to done that early. I didn't. even know I did it until I went back to. PT the next day and then and I was. dealing I didn't want to go through. another [ __ ] surgery. I just got a.

new new knee. So, man, the knee itself, dude. Titanium, Adamium, whatever the Wolverine. is not bothering me at all, >> but I could block I'll block a kick with. that. I feel great with it. And I'm. rolling. I'm flexible. But I just I got. I [ __ ] up that it's a little it's it's. a little weak, you know? It's a little. compromised. >> Is there anything you can do like with. weights? Like. >> I'm doing I'm doing squats. I'm doing my. regular squats. I got to do I have to do. more with the weights, but uh. >> I'm thinking of like single leg lunges, you know, like with that leg.

>> So what do they call them? Bulgarians. squats where I I'll hold like a 100. pound kettle bell and do them. >> one leg. >> Yeah, I got it's noticeably weaker. So I. I just got to do something with that. But besides that, the knee itself. >> I just wish I didn't do that cuz I hear. about um bis being running still. >> Yeah. >> I can't if I run this [ __ ] I could dip. with that. >> The running thing is weird because it's. like how much time do you have on those. knees? >> Exactly. >> Like you kind of have to be. >> and you got to get them fixed again. >> But I mean can they do that? Can they. chop the [ __ ] thing off and put a new. one in and unscrew it? Look, fine.

That's too much. >> I'm holding off on my right one for as. long as I can. >> Your right one's still [ __ ]. >> My right one. I just got shot some stem. cells in there. But yeah, if I'm walking. too much, I'll feel that [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> I mean, they're both just severely they. not my left now. It's new. But then it's. just [ __ ] arthritis, man. [ __ ]. sound like an old man. But the. arthritis. Oh, why arthritis jiu-jitsu? >> Yeah. I mean, I know also to get to 55, I used to just [ __ ] have to run in. the morning for 45 minutes. low. intensity, but just still I was on a.

treadmill just [ __ ] on enduro rush. [ __ ] just running. So I I must have. wore that [ __ ] down, man. You know, >> I'm sure. Well, that's what Disping. says. He's always running. >> Yeah. You know, >> he ran a lot on the streets, too, you. know, which I'm sure is a lot of extra. pounding. >> That's no good. I can't do that. Yeah. He's still doing it, though. He's. [ __ ] long. Tears you up. to. >> I think he's doing better now, luckily, because for a long time his neck was. [ __ ] with him so bad he could barely. get out of bed. >> Jesus. >> His body. Yeah, I remember he had. surgery and like a week later he was.

right back on the on the call. Right. back com. I was like, >> you gotta be careful with your neck too. Like that's where the spinal cord is. Like it only I didn't I thought your. spinal cord went all the way through. your back till I had my back surgery, you know, but it doesn't. It comes down. like maybe halfway. And so that's why. when you have a your neck impingements. cause a lot of those [ __ ] problems. >> That's why that Ernesto host neck kick. is so effective. You know when you Oh, who's kicked so many people in the neck? Just wow. >> He was a sass. >> He was always one of my favorite guys to.

watch. >> Mr. Perfect. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. One of the most beautiful. kickboxers of all time. Like just the. the combinations he would throw. Pop. pop, left hook to the body, right low. kick. Wow. >> And they ruined him with Bob Sap. >> I know. Bobing on him twice. >> two times. See, that'll always baffle me how Bob. Sap beat that guy. >> Well, you know what it is? It's like. this is one of the reasons why Ernesto. wasn't like the best candidate for. kickboxing to enter into MMA because he. was like smooth and super technical and.

very fast but not explosive, right? Not. like like just would launch himself. But. Crowop was. >> Yeah. >> When Crowop fought Bob Sap, Crocop [ __ ]. Bob Sap up. >> because Crowop would just blast on you. like full power, full blast on you. It's. like it was a different kind of thing. that he would do. And that's why he was. so effective in MMA. Like when he went. over to MMA, like all of a sudden he's. this fast, powerful striker. It's not. like a boxer who's going to move around. a little bit and pick you apart for a.

few rounds. >> Styles matter. >> Matters. Styles matter. I wish he would. have been in the UFC in his prime. He. got over a little late. >> He had pretty good takedown defense, too. He was able to kept good range. He. would frame guys off and everything. Yeah, he was. I mean, and we all know. bet is where was it? Left cook left kick. cemetery. What was it? Right. >> Right kick hospital. Left kick cemetery. >> Bro, he fought Heath Herring. And. there's a there's a shot of him throwing. this low kick or this body kick. >> deep into Heath Herring's cage. Like his.

whole rib cage is just collapsed and you. just see Crocop's shin like basically. touching his liver. It's insane. It's so. deep that you just It's It's one of the. most painful pictures you see from an. MMA fight. >> Hering. Remember that dude kissed him. before the. >> fight. He killed him with one shot. Yeah. In. pride. >> Well, listen, man. You get what you. >> It's the one in the upper left hand. side. The second one. Upper. That one. right there. Yeah, that one. Look at. that.

>> Bro, concave. >> Got to be some broken. When you know how. powerful Croc Cop's kicks are and then. you think about eating that on the ribs. like that. >> Oh my god, that is. >> it's like it's folding around his leg. >> Yeah. I mean, that's another one that he. landed on. That's Josh. That's Josh. Barnett. >> Bro, the power that that dude had. And. how about the one that he landed on. Vanderlay when he flatlined Vanderlay? >> Dude, he had some wheels on him. His. legs are big. >> And power. It's just the difference was.

like when he was throwing kicks at you, it was 100% gas. He was not feeling you. out. He was trying to like let you know, [ __ ] there's some darkness. behind this [ __ ]. You will see darkness and then you have. a flashlight in your face and they'll be. like, "You okay? Stay put. Stay put. You're going to be okay." But then. Gonzaga did that to him. >> Oh, remember? >> I was there for that. >> He rolled over his ankle. Remember that, man? His ankle just popped. >> Forever be known as the crow cop. Like. whenever you see that happen, you always.

think back when it happened. >> That was in London. >> We were there for that. Yeah, >> I had to That's right after I got the. belt and I remember me, you and Eddie. went out and got some pasta. >> That's right. >> Yeah, that's so funny. >> That was crazy. Gonzaga. People forgot. about Gonzaga. You know, that was a big. win, man. Holy [ __ ]. >> A big [ __ ] dude. >> Big natural dude. >> The heavyweight division right now is so. shallow in the UFC. It's so shallow. >> It's like without, you know, >> just think they're all playing football. and basketball, you know? >> 100%. Yeah.

>> What about Johnny? What's Johnny? I hate. to say. >> Walter Walker. >> Walter Walker. What about him taking leg. locks at everybody? >> Yeah, I know. Like three in a row. >> Yeah. >> Walter Walker looks good. Yeah. I mean, we need more of that. >> We need someone to like if Aspenol is. going to have uh he's got serial gone, right? So, that's an interesting fight. And then who? >> There's no one after that. >> Derrick Lewis just on name. >> Yeah, Derek would be fun. >> By the way, Son didn't have a bad movie. Not to keep bringing up movies, but I.

love movies. But a [ __ ] KO with. Srogon. >> What is it? >> It's a movie on Netflix. He has his own. movie. It's He's an action star. He's. the star of the movie. >> He's the star of it. And you might be. thinking, "All right, how's his acting?". >> Wasn't bad. >> Really. >> [ __ ] He's the the new Action Jackson. I'm only [ __ ] around. >> I do remember that. >> Is it in English? >> It's uh It's dubbed in English, but it's. a French. >> How do you know if he's any good? >> Well Well, I mean, I watched it. What do. you Yeah, but I'm saying it's like it's.

not even his voice. >> Well, you could see him. >> You say his acting is really good, but. like it's another dude's voice. That's. kind of crazy. >> Well, I mean, it's. >> serial God's just not going to call KO. >> It's called KO, but it's not bad. >> You There he is. >> Hey, listen. >> You know, it's not the best sign when a. fighter starts starring in movies. >> This is what I was. >> Yeah, you're right. I'm not saying that. it's not. >> Is this Is this new? Is this new?

>> Yeah. >> Everybody like it for him in his chances. against Tom Aspenol. >> Yeah. Like that's what I'm saying. You. better better be training. >> Yeah. It that if there's a world that. can soften you, it's the world of. acting. >> It's a weird thing, man. And and music. >> kills fighters. >> There's also a thing like once you. become a movie star, like. >> I don't know. It just doesn't seem to go. well. Like remember Tommy Morrison when. he fought Ray Mercer? >> Oh yeah. >> Right after Rocky. >> That was a hard knockout, man. Yeah, he. beat him down. >> Mercer had him tangled in the ring.

punching him. Jesus. >> blasting away. Boom. >> Didn't Ray Mercer knock out Tim Sylvia. also? >> He did. >> Yeah, one punch. >> That was great. >> One punch. Ray Mercer, man. And he did. that he was like 46. >> Remember when he uh who the hell did he. fight in uh it was like K1 or Pride and. they kicked him and he just left the. ring. >> Uh it was Bray Mercer. Yeah. So my threw. a head kick. He looked at him like he's. speaking a foreign language and he. [ __ ] just left.

>> Really? >> Are you sure that was Mercer? >> I'm pretty sure. >> It's not. >> Can we find that? I don't know. >> I mean I. >> I think one of the most interesting. boxers that entered into uh MMA or. entered into uh kickboxing was when. Masato fought uh. >> both of. >> Cool. Vince Vince Phillips. >> Vince Phillips. Vince Phillips. >> Vince Phillips did. All right. Yeah. What are you talking about? He couldn't. do with them leg kicks. Chopped apart leg kicks. That's what's. interesting when you watch a boxer who.

goes over there and it's like, "Oh. shit." Like, "What is this?". >> They never got kicked in the leg before. It's a. >> Remember when Shannon Briggs fought Tom. Eric? >> That's right. Same thing. Shannon was on. the podcast. He was telling me about it. >> Oh yeah. >> He's like, "Champ, every time he hit me, champ." I was like, "Oh, don't let him. kick me again. I got to quit.". >> How did that go? >> He knocked him out. Shannon knocked him. out cuz Shannon hit him with a jab to. the body. So, >> uhoh. So here's where Tim Mercer and So. what happened was Tim was not supposed. to kick. They they only had this. authorized as a fight, but since it was.

like an, you know, an MMA fight, they. were they were supposed to be a boxing. match, right? >> One one shot. So what it was was it was. supposed to be a boxing match. They. couldn't get authorized for it to be a. boxing match because Tim Sylvia did not. have a boxing record, right? >> And so you can't fight a former world. champion and you've had not no boxing. record. But you could fight him in MMA. It's a world champion versus a world. champion. He knows that boxing is a. sport that's in MMA. You could do that. And so they made an agreement. Okay, don't kick me.

>> and I'll fight you in the cage. And then. Tim opens up with an inside low kick. >> And that's why Ray Mercer, you see like. he drops his hands. That makes a lot of sense cuz they the. original fight they were contracted for. was a boxing match, right? >> And Tim's like, "Once I got you in here, I'm going to kick your [ __ ] legs.". >> Yeah. >> And then Ray. >> That's kind of a cheap shot though. If. if you make an agreement about that, that's a cheap shot. >> Play Jamie, play it again. Cuz when you. see when Ray gets that inside low kick, he drops his hands and he's got this. look in his face like what the [ __ ] is. this? See, watch. He steps out. Watch.

this. Throws the kick. >> Look like. Oh, I can't believe. >> Tim. >> Timber out cold. >> Ray Mercer. >> Good for him. I mean, >> Ray Mercer could [ __ ] son. >> Into the shot, too. Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. About to get full mount right. there. >> It's kind of amazing how few boxers have. actually entered into MMA. Not, you.

know, this was like he got tricked into. this one, but it's only like James Tony. >> You would think more would too, right? >> Yeah. >> Well, I guess not if you see those Usyk. paychecks, >> right? >> Yeah. But how many guys get there? Right. Think of, you know, >> fight Spence and Crawford made. That was. like a big fight. >> I mean, they probably still made a lot. A couple, you know, a gang of millions, >> right? I mean, I'm guessing in the. singledigit millions, though, not. [ __ ] hundreds of millions. >> I bet it's disclosed. See if you can. find out what the purse was. Jamie,

>> we need the next Art Jimson in here. >> 25 mil. >> 25 mil. >> 25 mil each. At least 25 mil for their fight. But. even still, like it's such a small. population of boxers to make that as we. said. So you would think that more would. go, you know what, I'm probably got not. going to make 25 mil. I'm not good. enough to make that, but I'm good enough. to maybe go to MMA and make. >> Yeah. >> 100 grand, 200 grand. >> Learned all how many other skill sets. though? >> That's true. But if you're a guy like. Crawford who started out as a wrestler,

>> that's the And there are some of them I. think like the Citron Brothers, right? One of them was a wrestler too, I. thought. Yeah, Kermit Cron. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I was digging through a boxing forum. They didn't believe the USIC payout. numbers. >> Oh, they didn't believe it. They think. it's [ __ ]. >> Yeah. I don't understand how theyated. >> Unless you're just lighting money on. something. >> You mean about the US numbers? >> Yeah, the payout. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. >> No one believes it. >> Oh, yeah. But that's just cuz they're. haters. >> I mean, there's no No one proved it. There's no $200 million. It wasn't on.

pay-per-view. There's no like Unless. someone just gave him the money. >> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You lit that money on fire. >> This is the thing. Those Saudis are. known to do that. >> I mean, look what they did with that. live golf tournament. Basically, they. just bought the tournament. And if they. did that with basketball or with. anything else, they have enough money to. do that with basically all sports. >> Supposedly, they did it with the Jon. Jones fight. >> Uh, so Jon Jones asked for $30 million. to fight Tom Aspenol, then pulled out. two days after they agreed. >> He didn't think it would come up with.

the number and they did. Saudi Arabia. was involved. He was hoping they. wouldn't meet the number. Literally just. saw that this morning. That's what Ariel. said. Yeah. >> Interesting. I wonder if where he's. getting his information. That's. interesting. >> He he said earlier in the thing that he. priced himself out of the Enanu fight. and he thought that that strategy would. work again, but apparently they met the. 30 million and then John couple days. later did the retirement thing and said. he wasn't going to fight. >> Why the [ __ ] would he even want to do. that then? I'm confused. >> Yes, I'm with you. >> Well, listen, it's a dangerous fight.

dude is real at this point in John's. career. >> 30 [ __ ] million though. >> I'll take the L for 30 million. >> Yeah, but he doesn't want the L. Here's. the thing. It's like the real thing is. John's rich right now, right? He's. already a millionaire. So, what is he. going to what's that extra? It's going. to be nice to have an extra 30, but the. reality is he's rich right now. He. probably doesn't have to work for the. rest of his life if he doesn't do. anything crazy. >> He still makes money doing his. appearances and whatever else. >> and he doesn't have to take that ass. kicking. Not saying that he would, but. if you wanted to look at it from that.

perspective, like if it's a tough fight, he's been through a wars, the Gustoson. fights, all his they all take something. out of you. Yeah. And if you got to know. when you don't want to do that anymore, and if that's where he's at right now, I. hope he stays retired. But then he. jumped right back in and said he wants. to fight at the White House, >> right? >> So, it's like it's so hard for those. guys to let it go. When they do let it. go, it's it's difficult to figure out. who you are, >> man. We got to see where that train's. going to go off the tracks when he's not. fra.

ke. It's like an Aerosmith song, son. >> I mean, guy is an all-time great, though. >> I mean, if not the all time great. >> You know who's really good lately. And I. I I it's forgot I forgot who he's going. to be fighting, but Dominic Reyes is is. crazy, right? Oh, he's. that should be a good one in Australia. That's a real. That's a real good one. Berg's legit. Oberg's fast.

>> That dude's fast. >> He might be faster than than Dominic. Reyes. >> I'll tell you what, man. I rewatched. Dominic Reyes as Jon Jones, and I could. see Dominic Reyes winning that decision. >> That was a That's a That was a tough. call. >> It's a close fight. I mean, I'm not. saying I I I sat down and scored it, but. I'm like, "Okay, I could see the. argument. I can see the argument. >> I want to know John's story. How much. cope did he do the week of the fight? You know what I mean? Like what? How. about when he told DC that like when I. was on cocaine like.

>> like that's got to be the coldest thing. to ever say, right? >> You know, they say there's nine years. that a fighter can fight at his very. best. It's most for most athletes. And I. think they did this, someone was. explaining this to me. They think they. did this based on tennis because tennis. is all about like fast twitch and. movement and the ability to explode back. and forth. and they're not taking any. damage and you could kind of keep your. level going at the highest level for. about 9 years and then everything just. slows down a little bit. It's just too. many micro injuries.

>> I mean, the training for these things, that's the biggest thing is the camps, especially as you get older. [ __ ]. >> You know, getting there in one piece is. just it's just impossible. >> if you have to if you want to just check. all the boxes getting ready for these. [ __ ] things. >> Yeah. You know, >> and when guys get to be like 37, 38, 39. >> It's so hard to predict them to show up. to fight. >> I know. >> I got to make predictions. I'm like, well, they're 38. Uh, now. >> I'll tell you what, dude. I'm not. counting out Canonir anymore.

>> After he beat Gregory Rodriguez, I was. like, god damn. >> Put it on him, too. >> Put it on him. And Gregory tried to take. him out in that first round, man. He he. went all gas. >> Gregory's a beast, too. Robocop. He just. came back and knocked out the Joker. [ __ ] Herman Manson and that was. brutal. >> That was a bad one. >> Yeah, I think Gregory Rodriguez would be. the biggest threat to Riner Ditter. >> Oh, that's interesting. >> Yeah, just like when you think about. Styles the biggest I think he would. knock Ritter's head off. I like that.

>> His striking is terrifying. Deritter's. got that knee to the body. That is so. interesting. The way he [ __ ] forces. you to clinch and then blast that knee. to the body. so good in the in the entrance with that. knee to the body. And when he did that. over and over and over again, I was. like, "Wow." Like, >> pay for it one time with that overhand. That's. >> true. And that's where Rodriguez could. be [ __ ]. >> throw that knee and [ __ ] Robocop that. locked on his jaw. >> Yeah. >> But, uh, perfect nickname for him, too.

I know. Robocop. He looks like. >> He does look like That's a fight, right? Der and Robocop is a fight. >> That would be a crazy fight. Yeah, >> that's a good one. That's a real good. I'm impressed with his jiu-jitsu. That. the Riddler, man. >> Am I saying his name right? >> The Riddler. >> The Riddler. The [ __ ] Everything goes. back to comics. But. >> he's so big. >> He's so big for 85. >> But so was Robocop. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> The way he handled Bo Nickel made he. made. that horrible matchup for Bo N. >> But it was a lot of those knees to the. body.

>> Those knees to the body were nasty, man. >> He was so good at it. >> He was so good at throwing that knee to. the body. >> He's very calm, too. >> Oh, yeah. Well, he's been through it, man. I mean, we haven't seen him, but. over in one FC. There it is. That knee. to the body is so nasty. It's so nice. >> It's so nice. >> And he took one and he took a punch for. it, too. It doesn't matter. Oh my. >> That sucks. >> And on the ground, he's a monster. Yeah. What he did to Kevin Holland, I was. like, whoa. Okay. >> Jitsu is on point, man. >> So, that's another 85. I mean, think.

about that division. You got Fluffy who. just like has this breakout performance. last weekend. You got, you know, the. whole division. >> Fluffy. Hey, what about that African. dude? >> Oh my god. Oh, >> oh my god. The one he might be the one. like of all the dudes. >> Big, you know, 185. >> Yo, he But he's fast. >> Does anybody know the African dude's. name? >> Atier. something like that. >> Is it Gutier? >> Goutier. >> It's a You know, it's like a weirdabi.

>> Atabi. Gutier. Yeah. Yeah, that's sounds. more like. >> Am I saying that right, Jamie? I don't. know. >> He's She's looking for verification. He's from Cameroon as well, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. He's scary. He's real scary. >> There's There's dudes that just God just. gave him an extra little extra little. >> extra little. >> He gave him more than an extra little. cuz that I was Kate, you know, Kate. side, man. We watching these dudes and. he's punching this guy like in the back. and the guy's like going. >> there he is. >> a.

Yeah. And he's like 6'4, >> 185, doesn't have a ounce of body fat on. him. I mean, look at that photo of him. Just look at that photo. That's crazy. >> You know, that's like one of those the. guy your girlfriend tells you not to. worry about photos. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> There's a few of those guys that just. they don't even look real. Ralpho. Vieira, he's another one. Yeah. You see. him, you're like, how is that a real. dude? So, here he is, man. This is in.

his last fight. I mean, vicious power, dude. Vicious. power. >> Like, that guy's just getting hit like, "Yo, yo, semi stop him.". >> You were talking about the heavyweights, man. I was upset by Bucha, man. >> Oh, Bucha. >> Steven Bush. >> Steven Bucha. I've been watching. >> I was upset by Barata. >> He looked he looked bad. Bacho. He. looked bad. He didn't look good. Horrible car. >> How about they [ __ ] got rid of the. other dude? >> That's weird. That guy him go like you.

[ __ ] up. >> I think I No, I think I think they're. going to resign him. I think it's just a. matter of like just like not having so. many guys on the roster to have that. burden to keep fighting them. >> Why? That doesn't make any sense. If the. guys on like a win streak, guys, >> I think they're I think they're going to. resign him, though. It's just probably. >> So, it's just like they didn't sign in. time. >> Well, you know, it's like when they have. so many guys on the roster, they have to. promise them certain amount of fights. So, >> Oh. >> So, it's like. >> Oh, so let guys go. So, they don't have. to promise them fights. >> Yeah. So they don't have to promise him. fights. But then for sure I'm just.

speculating cuz that's why they. >> pay him if they don't. >> Yeah, cuz they they have to pay him. anyway if they don't get him a certain. amount of fight or not. >> I know, but I mean imagine you just. fought your ass off. You beat Bucha, right? You're like what? >> I think I think what they'll do is that. like when they need him again, they'll. just get him back. >> I was disappointed. >> as opposed to just how bad shape he was. in cardio wise. Well, he I think he. banked on that single leg which was. getting taken away. >> You seen him fight that rug rug guy or. whatever and won. That was a crazy. fight, a crazy war. He took a lot of.

torture. Like I was impressed cuz most. jiu-jitsu guys when they get hit like. that, they're not out there for the. fight. And then in this fight, >> didn't look anything like the guy that. fought one and I thought he was going to. be better, you know, cuz he's training. >> Let me ask you this. >> What kind of drug testing you think. they're doing over there? >> Man, nice. What kind of drug test? >> Drug test. >> That's you got a point. >> That might be a big deal. That might be. >> and this is this is a problem with a lot. of guys we got from Pride. >> You know, a guy they come over with.

different physiques. They look. different. >> Oh, yeah. >> 100%. >> Mud signs with Octagon MMA faces off. with heavyweight champ. >> All right. Well, he's staying busy. >> You know, the guy's good and we need. good guys in the heavyweight division. There's just not a lot of people. I. mean, the thing about it is it's like. you got to be exciting particular. physically. >> He looks horrible. I think if he was. looked more marketable, I bet you he'd. still have a contract. >> I know, but isn't there like something.

to a guy who looks like [ __ ] [ __ ]. everybody up? >> There is something to that. >> Especially. somebody up. Look, when Fedor was in his. prime, that was part of his charm. Part. of his charm. roll around his waist and dead behind. the eyes. >> Old man back and [ __ ]. >> How many guys didn't root for [ __ ]. Roy Nelson? I'm not saying he looked. like [ __ ] but he's like an everyday guy. knocking guys out. He was [ __ ]. >> you know, people liked him. That power. that Roy had was crazy. Like he came.

over from jiu-jitsu. Everybody knew he. was a black belt in jiu-jitsu. Like. always competed in Abu Dhabi and the. circuit. Then all of a sudden he's. throwing hammer. Boom. Boom. You got. this mullet and [ __ ]. Savage takes a shot better than any. living human being that's ever lived. I. mean, who took a shot better than Roy? >> He took some bombs, dude. That That guy. took some bombs and absorbed them. >> Nah, he was badass. >> And people loved watching him fight with. that big belly. They love that's playing. it up, too. That's me. Yeah. He'd rub.

his belly after. >> Yeah. So, I don't buy that that he. looked like [ __ ] It's just the the. performance was it wasn't exciting. If. you watch that fight, that fight wasn't. a good fight. You know, Betta didn't. wrestle at a high level. If you're going. to be a jiu-jitsu guy and everybody. knows you're a multiple world champion. in jiu-jitsu and you're fighting in MMA, son, you better have some takedowns cuz. ain't nobody want going to want to be. [ __ ] grappling with you. >> Why would they do that?

>> You're right. He was just banking on. that single leg and once he started. taking that he had he was taking away. that single leg very well and then I'm. like a [ __ ] it was a long night. I was. all excited. I go oh I thought too I was. like [ __ ] Let's see how this goes. >> What the [ __ ]. >> How many times have you watched a. highlevel jiu-jitsu match between two. black belts and it starts in a standing. position and no one goes down at all for. like 10 minutes. >> They're just tying up. There's no good.

shots. There's no one threatens to take. someone down. Everyone's afraid to. commit. >> Well, when you start on your ass in. class, then you never practice your take. down%. You're right. You're right. You. start on your knees. >> But it's also that no one wants to take. a chance and open themselves up to. getting caught, right? So, you don't. want to dive in for a double and then. get caught in a guillotine. >> [ __ ] man. In Abu Dhabi, I pulled guard. every [ __ ] time. I don't give a [ __ ]. if you if you trust in your guard or. being able to get back now they call.

wrestling up as I was doing that back in. the day before it was called that but. like you know if you're good at not. letting somebody pass especially Abu. Dhabi rule set after five minutes you. know all right now I'm on back if I'm. good at getting out and getting up. putting the guy down I'm you know what I. mean I don't know it's all strategy with. that but I hate when it's a stalemate. with just two guys just [ __ ]. pummeling a [ __ ]. >> but I get it from the wrestller's. perspective too it's like hey [ __ ] [ __ ]. sitting on your ass like take me down. [ __ ] You want me on the ground, you got. to take me to the ground. I get that, too, cuz that's correct. And that's one.

of the things that you see that's like. very humbling for a real good jiu-jitsu. guy when he's there's no way he can take. a guy down and then the guy starts. beating him up standing up. Yeah. >> And you just have you're just rushing. forward trying to grab him. You can't. get the fight to your expertise level, your your area of expertise. >> It looks so bad, too. >> Nothing to fear from you standing. So, it's like exactly. What about Don Fry. and Omry Bet? That was a bad that was a. bad one for that. first. And he was tiny, by the way. Omry.

was a stud, but. >> he might have done well if they gave him. anybody else, but one he was a if you. watch that again, he's way smaller. >> And that's a small Don Fry back then. Don Fry was 200 two. That was before he. really got on the gas. The other guy Don. Fry is a lot different than that Don. Fry. >> Fried Don Fry is a superhero, you know. >> Yeah, he got gigantic. Even his mustache. got bigger. I. >> I didn't know that that guy, the big. Japanese guy, that they were punching. each other in the face. I didn't know. that guy became a quadriplegic or. something. >> Something happened. I saw a picture of.

him visiting him on how small he is. He's tang, dude. >> Yeah, Don was not big, you know. Look at. Don. I mean, he wasn't a big muscular. I. mean, obviously super weight classes. right here. This is crazy. >> But not the Don from Pride. The giant. roided up Don Fry from Pride was a. different one, >> right? >> This poor Omari. He was just trying down. the Was he just grabbing? No rules. Full on grabbing the fence. Look, he's hanging on to the fence with. shoes on. That's the other thing. He's.

got wrestling shoes, which is also kind. of crazy. >> Sucks. Poor Omari. I mean, he didn't. have any bad. >> Yeah, I used to train with Omari back. old school top team back. >> It was a long fight. >> What do you think Omarie Bets weighed in. this fight? >> I'm going to say what do you think? A. buck 70 or something? That's crazy. >> He looks He looks small. I mean, look at. the size. This different weight. difference. >> Look how young he is. >> Big difference. >> No gloves. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. [ __ ]. >> Was 30 years ago. So, >> so crazy. >> What? 30 years ago? >> It was 96.

>> Sometimes I forget. I'm [ __ ] in my. 50s. >> 51. >> This is a catchweight. >> I'll be 57. >> It was catchweight. Yep. >> Did it say Omry Beta's weight? >> I'm looking up a different spot. >> He looks like a welterweight. Yeah. >> [ __ ]. >> There was a lot of those fights back. then. >> Oh my god. Tons of them. >> Catchweights. >> No, just crazy fights. Fighting someone. way smaller than them. >> It's like Kerr and Gel Fabio Gel. >> Yeah, that's one of my favorite fights. of all time. [ __ ] up. I was a big Fabio.

fan. >> Yeah. Well, I give credit to uh Marillo. Bamante fighting Tom Ericen for 45. minutes. I mean, dude, Marillo Marillo. was a a jiu-jitsu guy that had some. standup and had some wrestling. He took. Lynland down. >> He stood on the feet with Chuck Liddell. I thought Marilla won that twice. >> Twice. Yeah. Millamante is one of my. favorites to watch. The thing about the. jiu-jitsu guys back then, some of those. guys, Fabio Gel's another one, Merillo,

is their jiu-jitsu games, >> it will it could transfer over from. ghee, no ghee, MMA, and it all resembles. the same skill set like, you know what I. mean? But it could cross over. >> Mario Sperry, >> Mario, the machine here. Yeah, >> he was great, too. You know, uh, yeah, man. A lot of those guys from that. Carlson Gracie team had a real solid. real good team. >> Yeah. Can't doubt Carlson's teaching. like a lot of savages came out of that. camp. A lot of them. >> Yeah. Including Vtor.

>> Yep. >> Well, that's how I got that's where I. got my black belt from. Laboro from that. camp. >> Nice. >> Yeah. Well, yeah. Labor I mean Laboro. was Laboro was awesome. He was a good. dude. >> Where's he been? >> I don't. >> He's in Orlando. He's got a school in. Orlando. >> Oh, he's still got a school. Yeah, he's. still got a school and like a whole. network. >> He's not involved in MMA anymore. No, no. MMA stuff. I used to see him in the. rolled out of Top Team. >> Never. >> Nice guy. >> Out. >> What a sweetheart guy that guy is. >> Yeah, he was. >> When did he leave Top Team? >> He left before I did. >> Really? >> Yeah. So,

>> I mean, he in fact like when he left, that's when they really hired me to like. kind of take his place. Yeah. >> Oh, that makes sense. >> Yeah, that makes sense. >> 2019. >> Talk about coming up. Oh, Joe Piper. >> Oh, yeah. Joeer. Yeah, >> he's fighting Abus Magamed off. >> Yeah, >> Joe Piper. >> I like I like Joe, man. He's [ __ ]. pissed in that. >> Joe Piper thought that I was too hard on. him in the commentary of the last fight. It's just cuz of his potential. That's.

all it is. I just knew that he was. looking for the big shot. >> instead of like just letting it come and. he was so good in the first round that. unfortunately like he had so much. success and almost took him out that he. started looking to take him out. >> Yeah. And if you load up with Kelvin, >> I think I think it freaked him out a. little bit that Kelvin was still there, you know, like we like he's like, "Yo, I. didn't hit this dude with everything. This dude's still here. What the hell's. going on?". >> Nobody has got a chin like that guy. Kid. is tough. >> Chubby though, Kelvin. He's. >> He's a 70. He's a 70. He shouldn't be.

>> But he's always had such problems making. it, you know? >> Yeah. But you know what, man? It's just. like like if that guy was at the UFCPI. and they gave him all his meals and he. had someone babysit him and make sure. you don't just don't [ __ ] off. Don't eat. anything other than this and. >> it's like too many guys just want to. feel comfortable. Yeah. >> It's like okay but you're not going to. feel comfortable losing, right? So. you're fighting a giant. >> and that this guy is coming down from an. extreme weight. >> 185. >> first 210. >> in that fight.

>> Oh Bach was 185. Yeah. Okay. Damn. >> He's also a late replacement. >> I got to go back again. I'm sorry. >> Well, let's wrap it up. >> Oh, man. Guys, my asses are stopping. this. >> We've been doing it for 3 hours. Have. >> we been? >> We've been doing it 3 hours. >> Okay. I feel you guys are going to. [ __ ] curse me after this. I'm sorry. >> No, no, no, no. We understand. You got a. legitimate issue. >> I have a lot of issues. >> There's nothing wrong with another one. >> Um, Ground Patrol Baltimore, Maryland. >> Can I have a [ __ ] shirt? >> Groundcontrol Baltimore.com. It's. >> crazy that I didn't bring that shirt.

>> Fights.com. I got you, Matt. Don't. worry. >> Thank you. Thank you. Medium now. Dean. Thomas Fight Court, the new podcast. Yeah. >> Oh, you got a new one? >> I'm I always got it on. Dean Thomas. Fight Court. So, >> be more MMA on Instagram, too. >> Uh, I'll see you this weekend. Chicago, right? >> Yeah, I'll be there. >> Matt Sarah channel on Oh, I'm sorry. Were you done? >> No, I'm done. Matt Sarah channel on. YouTube. I'm having fun with that. I got. a That's a little podcast that can like. 30 something thousand. I want to get to. 100,000. Come join the fun. >> Yep. Kick out there. We got a ground.

control in Sykesville opening up soon. So number six is on its way. >> Nice. Nice. And uh the website has all. the addresses and everything listed. Okay. >> All right, guys. >> Boys, so much fun, >> dude. Always great. Thank you. >> Appreciate you guys. Thank you. Bye, everybody. [Music].