JRE MMA Show #161 with Khalil Rountree Jr.

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. [Music]. day yeah what's up see you man What's. happen back we're back we're back we're. just talking about eating pigeon so I. was in Europe and uh I had uh pigeon and. it's it's a red. meat wait pigeon's a red meat Yeah it's. red and they serve it very rare yeah.

that wait wait wait wait wait wait I. know wait first of all eating pigeon is. just it's different but you're telling. me that it's red me and they serve it. rare yeah it's. rare well more details I know I was a. little stunned too when the guy well the. chef basically he brought us out food. right we didn't order off the menu he. just brought us out this food and uh. when the pigeon came oh my God yeah it. looks red man like it looks almost like. you're eating piece of steak it's like.

before you prep it you know like this is. not what I would expect it being like. getting served this well there's a bunch. of different uh birds that have red meat. like ostrich ostrich's red meat I didn't. know that either yeah I used to get. ostrich burgers at fud Ruckers I think. fud Ruckers went under unfortunately you. know what I think I did have an ostrich. burger at fud Ruckers like years ago. that I think about it it's the [ __ ] it's. very good okay wow so wait tell me more. about this what's it what's the word.

again how do you how do you say squab. that's what they call it they call squab. but this guy just said breast it's like. pigeon bre it's a pigeon breast it's a. like a red meat it does look kind of. Juicy huh like when you see a pigeon. they're pretty. like they're pretty jacked so I'd. imagine it's a good well this. conversation start off air because. that's what it looks like that's the rib. by of the sky oh yeah okay that's San. Hill crane now look at that doesn't that. look like beef yeah it looks like beef. they call them RI eyes in the sky that's. sandill crane.

wow it's delicious apparently I've never. had it but it's supposed to be insanely. delicious wow yeah they hunt them in. Texas it's a it's a big one in Texas. that's interesting yeah so we were. talking about animals that have been. modified like we were looking at Carl. and we're like how crazy is it that a. human over thousands of years altered by. select breeding and created that thing. it's kind of nuts yeah I mean since. we're on the topic this is kind of weird. there was one night I was going down. this crazy like YouTube spiral.

and uh there was some guy who was just. making Creations like he used. human he was just cross fertilizing [ __ ]. oh God yeah it was the craziest thing. ever I don't know right I don't know. what the hell you call it but he was. like making these creatures and then. they were like living in these jars and. then it would fast forward like you know. 3 weeks four weeks and they're growing. and one of them had this like crazy. little eye and it was the weirdest [ __ ]. I've ever seen which then led me down.

going in another Spiral where it's like. apparently there's people around the. world who will. like do like breed breed like goat mixed. with like [ __ ] human and like it's. just weird man there's a whole other. world there there's a whole world you. know the the Russians were trying to do. that in World War I or World War II. which world war was it so the Russians. were trying to make a hybrid human SL. chimpanzee and the idea was you get a.

super violent psycho human and you don't. have to worry about Russians dying you. got this [ __ ] creation cuz Russians. Were Dying by the millions I mean World. War I and World War II were [ __ ]. world World War I unbelievably brutal so. hybridization of animals these famous. for controversial attempts to create a. human ape hybrid by inseminating three. female chimpanzees with human sperm yeah. it's wild yeah bro they were trying wild. [ __ ] they were trying to make something. so that they could send it off to war.

do we have did they succeed we don't. know we don't know see that's the crazy. thing where are these test things going. where the test subjects you know like. what the hell happened well listen let's. we I think we both agree for sure. there's a clone out there in the world. right there has to be some has to be. right they must have tried that yeah. they've done it with sheep they do it. you can get your dog cloned you can get. Carl cloned let do it yeah yeah let's do. it no please if you get Carl cloned I. want I want version two cuz Carl's just. amazing expensive clothes yeah Carl's.

yeah they're very expensive right isn't. it like it's like 25 Grand I think how. much I would sell them for oh yeah yeah. yeah oh Carl's be worth some money uh. but I think it's it's a lot of money but. they can do it but I mean the whole. Dolly the sheep thing like when they. that was the first animal they cloned I. think there was a bunch of failed. attempts so I you know what is the odds. that it comes out exactly like your dog. it might be all [ __ ] up it might be. psychotic it might have no soul you. don't know yeah right look like your dog.

but who knows what the hell's going on. be real creepy like [ __ ] chew on. wires and. [ __ ] it's like the the the very dark. like satanic version of your dog or. something pet cemet ex remember pet. cemetery yeah dude yeah you bury the pet. like the pet comes back but now the it's. still kind of your pet but now it's evil. oh [ __ ]. that no just thinking about that it it. freaks me out but that I think that I. don't know how I went down that spiral. but oh you can go out some YouTube. rabbit holes man yeah dude down some.

serious YouTube rabbit holes yeah I. spent like four hours once researching. this theory about um neander talls that. this guy there's one dude that thought. that neander TS we have this idea of. neander Dos that they look just like us. okay and he thinks no he thinks they. probably look more like gorillas like. and they probably were covered in hair. and they were probably able to see at. night and they were probably super. violent and they might have hunted us so.

he had this whole theory about like. these super Predator chimpanzee looking. neander Ts that sounds interesting yeah. crazy dude crazy but most likely not. correct most people that the real. anthropologists who have studied this. stuff like no no no no we know some of. them had red hair but red hair could be. like orangutans had red hair yep you. know but they had giant eyeballs you. know and they were just very different. than. us but close enough that we're we inter.

bread with them yeah I I got to see this. I mean like this type of stuff is super. interesting like I like it's hard for me. to get into like fantasy books and stuff. like that but like YouTube videos on. like you know like this nand like kind. of theory or whatever I spent so much. time just going down rabbit holes brain. brain ticklers yeah I don't know if it's. made me a better. person it just [ __ ] up your thought. process you're right just like driving. down the street and then random thought.

about yeah it'll make for good. conversation you know I always have like. things that I could pull up did you know. you there's always stuff in there it's. nice to have the friends that kind of. are in the same little like you know. they're open to kind of some of the. weird [ __ ] so you can just have fun. conversation have friends that go too. far like I call Eddie Bravo up and I'll. just go I gotta go I can't he's like. dude he's so deep he's so deep in the. CIA MK Ultra like the deepest of the. deep yeah he he he's in that [ __ ] all. day long.

and my friend Kurt Meer he's the worst. if I call him up like he knows. everything about every conspiracy that's. ever happened and he knows all the. people that were involved and he'll. start rattling things off to you like oh. my God you giving me anxiety yeah yeah. it probably freaks you out I can only. imagine you're like okay. stop it's too much yeah especially today. it's just like seems like the world. could [ __ ] explode at any minut oh at. any minute dude what the hell are we. living in this it's yeah that's why I. guess it's better to just kind of yeah. you got to put a stop to like yeah what.

we consume you know like what. information we want to like let into our. brains cuz geez it's there's a uh was it. Avi Lovich is that the guy that was on. the podcast talked about he's a great. phrase he he you know we have processed. food is bad for you Ultra processed food. this is processed information Y and. that's this the way he described I was. like oh yeah it's like junk food for. your brain it's like you're eating. snacks man instead of like taking a meal. yeah that's so crazy um it reminds me I.

don't know why kind of off subject but. on um you know the comedian Ronnie Chang. yes so he had a really really funny like. part in in his most recent like standup. bit and he was he talks a lot about like. you know social media and just like the. internet and this country everything but. he said one thing uh he's like something. about like Americans he's like it's very. common you know Americans like I'll die. for my country I'll die and he's like.

how about you read a book for your. country he's like how about that you. know. and it was it was funny coming from him. and the tone but I mean like that's I. guess what brought that up is like yeah. process processed information right we. have a lot of fast you know info. somebody can divvy up a video really. quick and put it out there and it's the. first thing we see so we believe it you. know or like something can go viral and. we've seen it a bunch of times and then. on to the next thing and we're getting.

this information but like it's a lot. different than like okay let's let me. pick up a book or like a couple things. and actually read it and see if these. things right you know align and like. okay now I can kind of formulate like. okay this is closer to the truth and. actual understanding the history how. these things are figured out how this is. formulated what led to that instead of. just the article or worse yet a YouTube. or Tik Tok video yeah exactly yeah how. many people are educated by Tik Tok. today everybody that's.

I I really firmly believe that it's like. Shifting the way people think about. things in a negative Direction I really. I used to poo poo it I used to think ah. the algorithm whatever but now I'm like. oh it's definitely it's definitely. [ __ ] up the country 100% And I think. China's doing it on purpose I think it's. brilliant yeah I mean I've heard that I. definitely don't have. the like capacity to figure out if it's. like the truth or not but I did hear. that that's kind of crazy well you know. their Tech Talk's very different than.

ours that's what I heard like it's like. all like science and like positive stuff. and informational martial arts science. achievements performance academics. ratchet like just the craziest stuff. ever more people get shot on Instagram. reals those little and accounts I don't. even follow yeah right so it's like. Instagram knows that I'm watching [ __ ]. up things so they're showing me like you. know failed carjacking attempts all.

kinds of people get run over by trucks. like every day man I tried to create I I. created a Tik Tok like shortly cuz my. wife was using it and she like they have. like shopping or something on there so I. was like oh let me just download it. really quick so I downloaded it and like. after the first day it started feeding. me these like uh these these pages that. were like homeless people in like. Arizona and like California that were. just like hooked on like Fentanyl and I. was like what the hell and they get deep. into their stories like some guys like. interviewing them like how long you been.

out here and I I'm sitting here watching. this and like 20 minutes goes by and I'm. like why am I. depressed like why do I feel like the. weight of the world is on my shoulders. right now and I realized like holy [ __ ]. like I'm just I'm literally here in my. living room watching like drug addicts. on the street just like completely waste. their lives away meanwhile you're living. the life that they could only dream of. if you take a young guy before his life. goes sideways and say say what do you.

want to do with what it's like if I. could just wave a magic wand I would. like to be a badass fighting in the UFC. or [ __ ] Jack young and strong and one. of the top contenders up and coming and. meanwhile you're depressed yeah looking. at people that you don't even know it's. crazy dude it's crazy I think that's how. they're doing it to us oh man cuz no. matter where you are there's something. that you can watch that'll freak you out. that'll freak you out bring you down. just like change your mindset slow you. down whatever it is sugar Sean about.

that and he was saying that just. scrolling through Tik Tok or Instagram. stuff that doesn't have anything to do. with him he goes I just get this like. mild form of anxiety this like mild case. of I'm like I do too I do too I don't. know why it's I think part of it for me. is I know I'm wasting time I know I. should be doing other things I'm [ __ ]. busy I have time to be watching people. get. shot but why am I watching it I can't. stop I just keep [ __ ] scrolling yeah. especially if you're taking a [ __ ] oh.

that's the worst dude I don't even know. how to take a [ __ ] without my I'm like. [ __ ] I take I take one hour shits now. because of my [ __ ] phone because it's. my phone it's like I can't just get in. there do the business dude I got to. intentionally leave my phone outside to. just to do what I'm there to do but if I. bring my phone in there it's a WAP it's. a wrap because if I don't have my phone. in there I'm like Ricky Bobby and tallad. good night I don't know what to do with. my. hands where's my phone oh [ __ ] what what. percentage of people take a [ __ ] with. their phone now I want to know 9.9 guys.

men 100% 100% it has to be 100% that's. how I find out half the things that are. going on in my life you know one thing. that bugs the [ __ ] out of me though if. you're going to take a [ __ ] in a public. place like for instance like the PI. right if I'm at the UFC Pi just got done. workout whatever I got to take a [ __ ]. the guy next to me turn your [ __ ]. phone down like don't blast it I don't. want to hear what you're listening to. I'm trying to watch my I'm trying to. watch my [ __ ] Doo you know yeah don't. make me go in there with Bluetooth. earpod. don't make me [ __ ] listen to that's.

that's when you know you're a degenerate. when you put your ear pods in when. you're taking a [ __ ] like that's when. you got a real problem you've you've. you've you've you're gone you've gone. too far down the rabbit hole have you. [ __ ] around with any of that AR stuff. those goggles augmented reality um only. like the The Meta Quest I haven't tried. the Apple Vision Pros yet CU I know as. soon as I try the Vision Pro it's over. I'm going to be wearing those things. like. [ __ ] cuz when the meta Quest came out. like when I first had it like. he couldn't get me off the thing I was.

[ __ ] like look around playing these. games taking off like oh my wow. exhilarating but yeah I know if I if I. were to get the um the Apple Vision Pro. it would be over because there's just so. many cool things what did I see recently. there was some that they were using AI. this woman was talking to her deceased. daughter her daughter young daughter. died and AI had recreated her daughter. and with with these go goles on these VR.

goggles she was having a conversation. with her daughter I was like y I like. vaguely remember seeing something like. that this brand new but I think it's. this oh yeah this is it this is so. crazy this is so crazy yeah I mean she's. seeing her deceased daughter and trying. to touch her oh my God this is like what. we were talking about about the phone. right like just putting ourselves. through like this depression and stuff. like dude this is crazy this is like. this she can't even touch her so she's. like reaching like she wants to touch.

her yeah and she's crying look at oh God. she the gloves she has she probably can. feel some this is what we're seeing with. how they're showing it to the viewer oh. my God that's so man look at that I mean. it probably there maybe a version of it. that feels good to her you know but like. this could be oh God this could be. pretty bad God that's so sad oh my man. we're we're so close to the Matrix we're. so close we're in The Matrix dude I. think we might be you know Michael Ball. was saying it yesterday think he thinks. it is a simulation Elon said the chances.

of it not being a simulation are one in. billions yeah he thinks it's 100% a. simulation I there's too many things. that that there's too many coincidences. right like. even I might sound like an idiot for. saying something like this but like. that's a normal thing I mean think about. like stuff like The Simpsons dude right. like you see those like Simpsons. theories and [ __ ] it's like come on like. this is too accurate yeah they they.

called everything like this is years ago. you know like these episodes came out. years ago how is how are things like. this aligning or like how are these you. know matching it just it's weird really. it's really weird it's weird and why is. why is us being in a simulation any. stranger than reality itself just the. universe itself just the fact that we. are one planet of nine in this one solar. system system that is one of hundreds of.

billions of solar systems in this galaxy. and that this galaxy is one of hundreds. of billions of galaxies in the UN the. whole thing is so crazy the idea that. we're in some sort of a program why is. that more crazy like everything about us. is crazy subatomic particles are crazy. the way our body is designed is crazy. the fact that you can make a Carl out of. a wolf is [ __ ] crazy all of it's. crazy yeah I mean even listening to you. right now as I was as you were kind of.

breaking down how pretty much. insignificant we are I just kind of like. everything started zeroing in I was like. oh no get out get out get out of this St. no but we are significant and. insignificant at the same time yeah I I. don't think we're invaluable I don't buy. the thing like the the like the the. people that are like really dark about. it all and like oh life is meaningless. it's like no I don't think that's true. no I don't think that's meaningless at. all no you know like like you said.

there's an equal like significance. insignificance like when you look at the. grand scheme of things you zoom out. we're tiny can't even see us you know if. you're from an airplane you look down. you can't even see the humans right. right so that makes us feel a little bit. small but like I don't know something. about us inside how we feel how we. perceive things the power that we have. in numbers right like the intelligence. that we have to create things like Ai. and yeah laser beams and all this stuff. like I mean that's pretty damn.

significant in my opinion we're very. significant we're just we're just a part. of the whole thing the whole thing is. just infinitely massive and we think of. ourselves as small because we're just. one piece of it but we're like I think. we're a critical piece of it and I think. what we are is like the purveyors of. creativity and I think creativity is. like a thing that's in the universe that. forces intelligent animals to make. things and I think we are like an. antenna of this creativity and then we. put it out there and then eventually.

we're going to leave this planet and. we're going to go to other planets and. and colonize and put that stuff out. there in the world and probably not even. in the form that we you and I are in. right now it'll probably be some hybrid. form some hybrid form for sure some. cyborg form there was an episode I. forgot the gentleman's name um ah man. super super intelligent guy uh older guy. and he was talking about. the different forms of like. civilizations civilizations Kaku Yes Man.

how interesting was that yes yes do you. know about Dyson spars no so they. believe excuse. me this is just a theory but they. believe that when a civilization reaches. an incredible level of. technological proficiency they're going. to be able to develop these enormous. structures that capture all the energy. of a star okay so literally around the. star with this structure and they think.

they might have detected these. structures in the universe now these. structures are just theoretical okay. these Dyson spheres but they believe. through there's a thing called the James. web telescope it's like the most power. you know about the so this most powerful. of space telescopes is now they're. they're getting information that they. think might indicate that these things. could be a Dyson Sphere see if we can. find anything about that huh. so what is this so right here in our.

galaxy what is that just a Tic Tac see. there's an article 60 Dyson fear. candidates look at. that go up to the one that says. candidates. yeah so this is from May so they they. found these things amongst St there's. there's these I don't know how they. detect why they think this is a Dyson. Sphere but if it just makes sense that. if.

civilization can go from being hunter. gatherers to being people that fly in. airplanes and look at VR and enter into. the Matrix like we're clearly doing that. if you just keep that going a thousand. years a million years you're going to. get to some insane level of. technological ability you have to yeah. like you you absolutely have to so maybe. we are just like kind of in the. beginning stages of like you know maybe. there's humans elsewhere in the galaxies. far far far away like some Star Wars.

type [ __ ] right and we just haven't. gotten there yet but we're close I mean. we're we're seeing how close we're. getting with everything that's what. Terence Terence Howard had a crazy. theory about I have to watch that one. I've I've seen little Clips but I've got. to they're both good the first one's. great because he just kind of goes kooky. and then the second one's great because. Eric Weinstein who's like a legitimate. genius from Harvard sort of settles him. down and explains what's Incorrect and. what's what is correct and some of the. stuff is very correct and some of the. stuff is really fascinating. Terence is clearly a genius but he's.

like self-taught and sometimes when you. don't have peers correcting you and. people you got that yeah you have to. have actual it's like if a martial. artist like I got this move bro like try. that [ __ ] on. me you know right it works in the. streets it works on everybody it's like. no try it on me like but Terrence Has. This brilliant idea about that what. happens is you have a star and then the. particles that eject from the Star are. what creates these planets and when the.

planets get to a certain distance from. the Star when they develop that. goldilock zone he goes they eventually. develop people and he thinks it's like. peopling it's like when you see like. crops growing oh it's the time of the. year the rain and the soil crops are. growing and oh they're far away from the. Sun they're peopling they're making. people and that this is what happens and. then as this as time passes and this. Society if it's if it survives doesn't. kill itself gets further and further.

from the Sun it has to develop the. technological ability to keep the planet. hospitable and then it goes even past. that to the point where they develop. these things like Dyson fears and then. develop the ability to manipulate their. environment create black holes they. develop the ability essentially to. create new universes yeah just. ultimately over hundreds of millions of. years or whatever it takes so he. explained this and then someone you said. stepped in and kind of like no that no. did that he didn't correct because. that's just a theory and it's a.

fascinating Theory and you know Terren. has a lot of like really interesting. ideas but that was one of the most. interesting ones that like every solar. system the reason why we see it here and. the reason why when they look at the. like the web telescope has found a bunch. of these planets are in the goldilock. zone MH and he thinks that this is just. a normal occurrence that these planets. they as time goes on our planet is. getting further from the Sun and and. eventually the sun will burn out but as. time goes on as our planet gets further. and further from the Sun it's not going. to be hospitable anymore it's going to.

get to a point where it's like Mars and. Mars at one point in time was hospitable. Mars they think Mars had water on it. Mars might have even had life on it we. don't know but it could be billions and. billions of years ago wow yeah so this. theory is pretty wild that like all this. stuff is just basically particles that. eject from the Sun and that eventually. coales and form a sphere and form a. planet and initially these planets are. like very close to the Sun and they're. you know insanely hot but as they get.

further and further out they reach that. goldilock Z and that's when they start. developing life and then ultimately. develop a very highly intelligent form. of life wow yeah do we know where this. Theory like came from I think that's. terrence's Theory oh Terence has 97. patents what does that mean I don't know. because apparently people that have. explained it to me say you can actually. just file patents and the people that. are working in the office they're not. sophisticated in know enough to know. especially in various disciplines as to.

whether or not what you're saying is is. real or actionable it's like is this. something that you could really have a. patent for but they'll let you file for. the patent okay so it's one of those. things yeah wow but the idea that every. solar system eventually has a planet. that gets to that spot where it's just. enough so it gets water just enough so. it has like all of the things that's. necessary for life and then if you want. to get really crazy. he then you think that the plan the.

planets that are farther and further out. that have the super intelligent Ultra. Advanced species what they do is they. come back and they help us they come. back and then [ __ ] pick up the pace. boys you know you know what I mean like. they give us a little crash UFO here and. there they give us a little this give us. a little that maybe even manipulate us. that's the ultimate Theory the ultimate. Theory I mean that sounds kind of cool. right well just like Carl just like Carl.

it looks very different than a [ __ ]. wolf M right we look very different from. all the people on the planet like. there's so many varieties of humans. we're very similar to dogs in that. regard and that we can all breed with. each other but yet we look very. different so you could take like a a. Golden Retriever and they breed him with. a poodle or a labrador you make a. Labradoodle you know but they're still. dogs right but they look very very. different well that's only dogs that are. like that right like fish bass all look. like bass zebras look like zebras.

there's something about us that's. [ __ ] real weird and you get attribute. it to climate and different environments. to grow and some of those changes have. to have taken place from that too for. sure but if you buy into all this. Anunnaki crazy [ __ ] the reason why we. are so different than all the other. primates is because they introduce their. DNA to us yes to like and created us wow. and created us out of lower hominids. right yeah yeah yeah which is so fun.

it's super cool yeah I mean like so fun. to think if it's true I've looked at. some of that stuff a little bit before. but I didn't allow myself to get too. deep yeah you can get deep on that but. yeah definitely an interesting like. perspective and like way to like kind of. break down Humanity in a way well we are. a mystery you know we are the ones. who've created this theory of evolution. and the fossil record and all those. things but the thing that created it is. the biggest mystery the human brain the.

human brain doubled in size over a. period of 2 million years and apparently. it's the biggest mystery in the entire. fossil record they have no idea what. happened um is it still growing or. probably probably just growing slow you. know another two million years from now. might double again yeah I wonder if. there's any record of like I don't know. maybe just the slightest you know record. of like okay it's growing it's right I. wonder for 500 years ago now has there. been any increase in have you get like.

the average brain size of everybody. today like how far back do we have. really good records of brain size you. know yeah got to go back to like Kennedy. assassination probably nothing nothing. earlier than that nothing me I'm sure. there's an anatomy records that go. further than that I mean probably you. know maybe the 30s or the 40s like when. did they start studying the size and. weights of human brains I.

wonder I wouldn't know but it makes. actually I'm I'm making notes right now. like Terence Howard like I got to look. into this guy more all I know is just. like oh Terrence is fascin you know his. acting he well he's a great actor yeah. super great he's a great actor but I. mean I think he's even more interesting. as a thinker but he the way he responded. I think showed a lot of character the. way he responded to Eric Weinstein. correcting him on stuff cuz he didn't. you know he kind of tried to argue his. point but he didn't get upset he didn't.

get emotional about it he didn't get. attached to his ideas it was it was it. it showed he's a brilliant guy that. doesn't have all the information but. he's brilliant but there's a giant. difference between being a brilliant. person and being a person that has. information there's a lot of brilliant. people that don't have any information. yeah you know which is why like there's. there's people like I I I firmly believe. that to be great at Athletics it takes a. kind of intelligence and you're not. measuring it in an IQ but to pretend. that someone is like a Wayne Gretzky.

that he's not some kind of a genius you. know or a Federer or or an lead MMA. fighter you have to be a kind of a. genius because you're navigating this. most difficult of world with microsc. decisions get made training Instinct. discipline the will to carve out this. existence and all those things it h you. have to have a [ __ ] truly truly. exceptional mind to be able to do those. things I I agree 100% from yeah any.

anybody that's doing things at just like. a really high level or like they're. doing things differently or they're like. the number one two and three in there in. anything in in anything yeah there's. definitely a level if you're focusing at. physics well everybody thinks you're a. genius but if you're focusing on hockey. people don't think you're a genius or if. you're focusing on chess maybe people. think you're a genius but if you're. focusing on Jiu-Jitsu maybe they don't. think you're a genius and it's kind of. interesting but I think they're all. Geniuses I think I think one of those. people if they had the physical.

capability because obviously some people. unfortunately have terrible genetics and. they're just never going to be an elite. athlete but if you have the physical. ability that's only like a little tiny. piece of it yeah the real piece is the. mental part of navigating not just the. training but the improving and and then. the ability to execute under pressure. under pressure you got to you got to. have the the mental side to even drive. the physical side right you can be a. physical investment I how I'm built.

right like but I know nothing about. football so it's not like I can just I. have i' have to you know i' have to. develop some type of Brilliance or some. type of you'd have to train I'd have to. train I'd have to think I'd have to do. all these things you look like you could. play football that's what I'm saying I. look like I can play football but my. mind's not wired that way right so I'd. have to do a lot to to make that happen. and then obviously there's a lot of. football players that look like a beast. but if you get them in the cage they. have no idea what to do nothing dude. they would to be able to throw a punch. we've seen it it's so crazy we've seen.

it we've seen guys that like you know. they're they're badasses but there's a. difference between being a badass versus. a trained fighter it's just a whole. different world and it it requires not. just physical work it requires a kind of. Brilliance and just because Terrence. doesn't have that information he's a. brilliant guy if he had that information. he'd be even more brilliant he'd be more. relatable to all these other brilliant. people that's like that's really. interesting man. I I'm I I want to look into to Terence.

Howard more actually like this is it's. fun yeah I I like this I like to I want. to explore like the side that you're. explaining to me I would have never. really known but I'd like to be inspired. by that I'd like to you know just hear. this guy out and well I had a reporter. tell me about him years ago and then I. watched some YouTube videos of him and. one of them he was at Oxford talking to. him about mathematics see like that's so. cool what the hell yeah what the hell. crazy the whole thing was crazy but it's. just there's you know we should be.

inspired there's a lot of interesting. people out there in this world and a lot. of people that have some really great. ways of looking at things and and. inspiring stories you know you think. about like what they've done and how. they've done it it's it it really fuels. us all one of the reasons why we like. sports when we're not even participating. in it it's because it's so inspirational. yeah you know if you watch a great fight. and someone wins you're like oh my God. that was incredible you leave you're. like energized yeah yeah yeah or magic.

shows comedy shows I mean honestly dude. honestly pretty much anything yeah yeah. anything that yeah requires that stuff. yeah you get you get energy from it you. really do there's there's a type of. energy that we humans get from each. other and I think that kind of energy. that we get from each other doing things. that also it's beneficial to us like. evolutionarily because I think it. promotes more work it promotes things. getting done it actually fuels things. getting done so like similar to like the. olymp are you watching the Olympics.

right now at all bro I watched that. [ __ ] transgender woman boxer box the. female box I'm like what the [ __ ] are. you people doing what honestly I haven't. I haven't seen much every bar or. whatever and anything that has a. television right now I've been traveling. so I see like Olympics is on everywhere. right but one thing that I that I've. noticed it's like it's so weird it seems. like the Hunger. Games you know like I see all these like. crazy outfit. know this like extravagant thing I'm.

like this is the Olympics now like why. is this it's so different now than it. than what I remember well the Olympics. is a giant scam there's two things going. on simultaneously okay you have the best. athletes in the world participating in. their disciplines that's that's. happening and then on top of that you. have enormous amounts of money being. made and none of it's going to the. athletes it is a giant scam so the kind. of people that are putting together that. ridiculous opening ceremony we got a.

bunch of drag queens in the last supper. and all that I didn't understand that. nobody understands it because it's not. made by athletes it's not made by the. Olympics it's made by the people that. are in charge of putting the Olympics. out so they're the ones who are reaping. all the money and sucking all the cash. out of these athletes God it not only do. they do that but then they go to places. like Brazil and so if it's going to be. in Brazil they build this [ __ ]. enormous place for to to participate in.

all the different Arenas where different. people do their things and then after. that nothing so and then all the people. there who are poor are like hey where. the [ __ ] did this money come from and. why didn't you just spend it on this the. community why did you do this why did. you do this for volleyball like is. volleyball that [ __ ] important that. you didn't like use that money to like. help people yeah that's bizarre that. sucks the money they make is. astronomical the Olympics makes billions.

and billions of money in television. revenue and advertising revenue and they. don't give any of it to the athletes so. it just goes to like the Olympic. Committee they're just balling wow yeah. and these are the crazy people that are. putting on the last supper with. transsexuals that's that's what they're. doing was it the last supper I saw it. was something out like [ __ ] it was it. said something like the some Greek uh. nonsense that was a they tried to say. that after the fact the lady who was. playing Jesus literally said she was. Olympic Jesus she was joking around.

about being Olympic Jesus cuz she was in. the same position Jesus was in in the. Last Supper she had the Halo behind her. head it was they're being artsy they're. being fun you know but it's not it's not. the place for it you're pushing this. weird agenda in this place where people. are already getting [ __ ] over right. the whole Olympics is just people. getting [ __ ] over yeah I mean if. you're the best athletes in the world. representing your country yeah at the. highest level level that possibly.

humanly. possible for one yeah you should be. getting compensated a shitload of money. you know what I mean getting compensated. um and yeah I think that there should be. something that's more focused on the. extravagance of like this moment of like. the the the athletes waiting so long to. be able to do this and yeah it should be. more athlete focused for sure and not so. much like a show or let some wacky gay. dude get a hold of the [ __ ] the re.

and he decided to do this and that's. what it was it's literally what it is. that's literally what it is and he just. decided to have a guy and a beard but. this is true mean this is the actual. person that put it together that's that. is who he is oh really yeah yeah yeah I. don't I didn't even know oh yeah they. know who the guy is we don't need to. name him but okay just getting enough. hate as it is but the whole thing's. [ __ ] completely insane but my point. is the whole Olympics are insane they're. robbing people they're robbing the. athletes no one is tuning in there's not.

billions of people all over the world. tuning in just to see a bunch of. transsexuals pretend to be Jesus and the. and the disciples that's not why they're. tuning in they're tuning in to see who's. going to win the 100 meter dash who's. going to win this who's going to win. that who's going to win the Sprints. who's going to win whatever the [ __ ]. event is who's going to win boxing. that's what people are tuning in and. those people that are have dedicated. their entire lives to wrestle in the. Olympic Games they're not getting a. [ __ ] scratch of that that's so crazy.

it's nuts oh man. so it's nuts and there's nothing there's. nothing to do about like nobody can do. anything about that it's just pure cha. well at one point in time there was. probably no money in the Olympics. because there was no Television right so. at one point in time the Olympics was. just about the best athletes in the. world competing against the other. athletes best athletes in the world it. was for national pride you know you. bring a gold medal you have a [ __ ]. parade when you get back home it was. great and it was probably very I don't.

know what the original like the one. where Hitler was in the 1936 Olympics. and he's [ __ ] jacked up on meth and. he's rocking back and forth you seen. that one no dude saw you're putting me. on so much game right this put me on so. much yo I got a guy coming on tomorrow. to actually talk about drugs in the. Nazis like all the the crazy drugs that. they were doing they had to be on drugs. all kinds of stuff all kinds of coc. getting free drugs meth yeah they were. free drug and there was no just say no. back then everybody's like what does.

this do keeps me up for days let's go. [ __ ] Hitler at the Munich Olympics is. like he's on meth and he's rocking back. and forth he's just amphetamin out of. his [ __ ] mind just coked up just. rocking back and forth while everybody's. watching the Olympics show it to them. Jamie yeah we need to see. this we've played this like look at him. look at look at him rocking dude look. get him going he's going what a manc.

going that ruin Maniac he ruined that. mustache forever yeah you know just. rocking back and forth but back then how. many sports were in was that 36 1936 or. 38 36 how many sports were in the 1936. Munich. Olympics cuz now there's so s there. swimming and rhythmic gymnastics. shooting yeah there's. decathlon I don't know when it's started. but there's only a certain number of. events so if they like just put a new.

one in they got to take something out oh. really that's why they lost wrestling a. few years ago and everybody got mad. because they added like skateboarding or. surfing or something something like that. that um is that uh always been the case. from until I mean not since there's only. like 10 games to start with I'm trying. to how many events were in the 1936. Olympics though looking cuz I know they. they may might have put a cap on them in. the future I don't know if they had a. cap on it back then but my point is back. then like uh like in the Jesse Owens.

days you know when Muhammad Ali won the. gold medal like those guys weren't doing. that for money for Ali it was like a way. that he could transfer into professional. boxing and you know like with mric. Taylor and Pernell Whitaker those guys. got fast-tracked Mark Breeland all the. Evander Holyfield all those guys who. medled the venues for the events they. had so they had a lot of going on so. they have a lot of stuff but not as much. as they have now I don't know Wonder. it's uh see if you can find how many.

more events are there in 2024 than there. were in 1936 we'll see if they say. that but the point is like everybody who. did the Olympics before television they. just did it for national pride just like. winning the Nationals and wrestling you. do it just to for the glory of it so. there's 32 Sports 329 events and 32. Sports including 28 core Olympic sports. contested in 2016 2020. and then what did it used to be in.

like. 1936 129 events 25. disciplines H so it's slightly less got. to love the AI overview right nuts just. quick instantly give you all the things. all the things the Olympics were often. considered controversial because they. were held to showcase the Third Reich. and Adolf Hitler's theories of Aryan. Supremacy oh jacked up on Co [ __ ]. we're the best we the [ __ ] what a.

[ __ ]. Maniac wow nuts so back my point is so. back then there was no television. Revenue there was no no one was making. billions and billions and billions of. dollars so the Olympics started with you. know a very pure intention yeah the pure. intention of just you know winning being. the best be the best from your country. but somewhere along the line it became. this [ __ ] enormous business and the. athletes never got cut.

in and no one's ever spoken up about it. have they what do they what can they do. they don't have any power no one has any. power yeah that's true the TV networks. don't want to change like shut the [ __ ]. up everybody like shut the [ __ ] up. getting us VI they're just stealing. they're just stealing money imagine if. that was the case with the NBA or the. NFL or UFC imagine if the athletes got. zero money and everybody else is driving. around in rolls-royces and living in man. it would be crazy be super crazy you. guys are fighting for Glory you're not. fighting this is not about money you.

represent your country we've done. studies and it shows that when people. fight for money they don't fight that. hard yeah so what that's the Olympics. they're boxing for zero dollars they're. punching each other in the face as hard. as they can for zero and this woman. today got punched in the face by a man. damn yeah they let a transgend there's. apparently two at least two transgender. boxers that are fighting in women's. boxing. I what the [ __ ] I don't understand you.

can't understand cuz you're not. [ __ ] has to be something wrong with. you to understand to think that that. makes sense and all you have to do is. say you're a woman but you're not though. I say I'm a werewolf but when the moon. comes out I stay person yeah I mean like. I want not real I want to understand the. the the like from their part and their. reasoning like cuz you're a nice guy you. want to think that there's some part of. this like there's probably some sort of. a reason oh if they explain it to me. like oh I see your perspective yeah I.

want to see the perspective there's no. perspective it doesn't exist it doesn't. exist because that perspective would. gray the line to like well why not just. let all men compete in women's sports. well men would Dominate and that's why. you have Title Nine there's a reason why. men and women's sports are separated. because it's not fair it's there's the. reason why the UFC has weight classes. you're not fighting Brandon Marino. because it's not fair right this all. these things are put in place to make. things as Fair as possible weight. classes gender. says they're not transgender what are.

you talking about that's what this says. they may be. interex wait a minute is this today this. is about them yeah July 30 July 30th. today there but there is an athlete that. they were saying was a male athlete that. was compe Riley gains posted it on her. Instagram it says they failed test that. came back testosterone test elevated. testosterone what does that mean so they. took test testosterone is it exogenous. why are they calling this person. transgender are they ma female to male.

like they're trying to transition to. male is that what they're saying I don't. know what okay what article is this from. Out Sports Out Sports what is outports. why man I go to somewhere else but hold. on what is Out Sports what is that what. is the probably LGBT it's LBGTQ yeah it. is so this might be biased Google. transgender boxer and what does it say. Olympic trans Bo started it. so there previous will fight in Paris. women's events but but here this is the.

person algeria's. inan I don't know how to say that and. taiwan's Lin Yu Ting were disqualified. from La God these popups qualifi. disqualified from last year's Women's. World Boxing championships after failing. gender eligibility. tests okay that means they're. transgender Jamie that out Sports is a. biased website it's unfortunately. they're it's kind of propaganda. about this kind of. stuff man I don't all right scroll it up.

Scroll it up again so it says yeah the. person has the XY. chromosone the boxer's chromosone text. came back as XY so that's a male says. it's. alleged well at the time of the. disqualifications based on DNA tests we. identified a number of athletes who. tried to trick their colleges in. deposing his women the association's. president um Umar kremlev told Russia's. task newe agency at the time according. to the results of the test it was proved.

that they have XY chromosomes such. athletes were excluded from competition. so I don't think Out Sports is being. honest about this particular thing. because there's outrage all over the. place about this one particular person. that they're talking there that did test. for an XY chromosome that's a man I know. it sounds horrible to misgender someone. and all that good stuff all that's great. until you want to fight women or even. compete against women let's just cut the. [ __ ] let's cut the [ __ ] when it comes to.

competition I guess yeah there's a a. level of like it's just unfair or it can. be also we're denying sandbagging right. yeah we both know what sandbagging is. sandbagging has always happened you. would get in all sports I remember when. I was a kid there was a kid that we were. in uh Little League baseball and there. was a kid that was 15 he was trying to. say he was 13 this [ __ ] threw. heat he threw heat he had a crazy fast. ball and everybody like how old is this. [ __ ] kid Le throwing like 80 89 oh.

Trans boxer hergy. bandan bakan aims for gold medal this is. also from Out Sports though so okay so. this one they're being honest about I. mean that's what I'm just saying right. but they're not being honest about that. other one competes in the W as he. competes in the women's boxing division. wait a minute what does that mean why. are they saying he then I this was the. other one see they're saying himself in. his Nation so this is a trans female to. male competing in women's boxing cuz.

they're saying him so out would not be. calling this person a male if this. person uh identified as female but. they're competing in women's boxing so. this just means they're juicing up. they're just cyborg cyborg their way to. the thing he proudly proclaims he's. never taking testosterone on his social. media accounts okay so he just says that. he's a man. so he's transgendered just by saying it.

he's not doing any hormone replacement. therapy knowing his strong stance. against discrimination he fac during. competition so this is just a woman that. says they're a man and competes with. women that's different that's very. different especially if this person is. not taking testosterone that's very. different but the other one has XY. chromosome that's a boy congratulations. there's a lot man like that's a lot. that's a lot to take in that's a lot for. my like my brain process well it. shouldn't be about ideology it should be.

about biology you should have biologist. determine whether or not someone's male. or female it shouldn't be like you just. decide like this this article was. nonsense too because you're saying he. competes as you know in women's boxing. well why why would he compete in women's. boxing yeah if he thinks he's a man go. compete with the men yeah it's sad it's. it's and what I mean by that like it's. sad because in today's Times like. it's hard to stay like politically.

correct right right it's impossible it's. like even now I'm like how do I how do I. even talk about this you get what I mean. like without getting completely like I. might I don't know what to say I don't. know what but that's that's the trick. the trick is getting you so confused by. it all that you can't even discuss it. yeah and then you just sort of allow it. to happen well it's not me what am I. going to do yeah. yeah what are you chewing on um this is.

uh try these that's um Lucy's that's a. breaker breaker those are good yeah you. like oh it's good man the espresso is. good you like it breaker yeah there's a. little thingy crack it yeah crack it and. has a nice flavor yeah wow these are. delicious not bad. right wow okay yeah probably banned from. the Olympics I wonder if Nick teen's. banned So speaking of which we should. probably get to the your whole story. yeah let's do it yeah so um you were. slated to fight um it was Jamal Hill.

right yeah and which would been a huge. fight for you and for him um and explain. the story explain in your words what. happened okay uh yeah so I was scheduled. to fight Jamal Hill co-main event at UFC. 303 at the time it was when Connor was. still you know going to fight uh. Chandler. so.

uh in preparation leading up to that. fight uh I. was how do I even say this I was working. with a company who I like outsourced. like to take care of my supplements and. stuff like hey you know I don't have the. time to necessarily like pick what's. right for me uh but these guys I trusted. them they promised me and they did your. blood work they did everything yeah. blood work everything like you know I.

trusted them i' taken their stuff before. pass drug test before so there was. nothing for me to you know worry about. um and then I it was brought to my. attention uh from the owner of the. company he was visiting my. house and pointed out something that I. was taking and shouldn't have been but. it was sent to me from their company um. they mentioned you know they sent a. letter to the UFC as soon as I took it I.

had to I I mean I called the UFC man I. was like freaked out I was like what the. hell I didn't know so this stuff that. you were taking was a part of like it. was a stack of things or was it like so. let me I want to get this like I want to. get this correct you know like because. this is the first time that I'm you know. speaking about this publicly so. the the most simple way that I can put.

it. is I was Outsourcing my. supplements I was. sent a blended supplement that I was not. told that I should not take and the. company knew that I'm a UFC fighter that. I'm under drug testing protocol like all. this stuff so they knew that and. someone from their company sent me. something that I shouldn't have taken. and there was.

no like heads up hey this no no it just. came and I continued to take my. supplements as I'd been doing and then. when it was brought to my attention like. hey you shouldn't be taking this that's. when I immediately alerted the UFC I'm. like hey so this is DHEA DHEA and it. wasn't even it was in a blended. supplement so DHA was inside of a. vitamin type supplement that they sent. me and we should also point out DHEA is.

not even performance enhancing so it's. not like you could get any kind of an. advantage it would help your health it's. kind of stupid that it's illegal yeah I. mean there's like when I looked at stuff. from like the wada um list on why they. banned it um it just doesn't really make. any sense you know and for it to have. any type of performance-enhancing. benefits I have to take it for a long. time and a lot of it and it still.

wouldn't even probably do anything you. know yeah it's not a steroid the point. is it's not like some crazy [ __ ] that. you take all like EPO or something yeah. exactly so I don't understand if you. told them that this was an accident. giving given the understanding that this. is not. performance-enhancing why did they. suspend you okay. so UFC. which is awesome they've they've been so. helpful man like Donna and Jeff and even.

Hunter like I'm so grateful for them but. they had to suspend me they gave me a. two-month suspension. because my test did come back positive. as soon as I told them hey I just tested. on May 4th so I haven't gotten the. results back yet but this is what I just. found out I've been taking so it's. probably going to come up on this test. so keep a look out you like keep your. eye out so then they're like okay we're. they like expedited my test they called.

it like hey we need this test back. immediately because I was booked to. fight and so I'm obviously this is like. I'm panicking dude I'm like [ __ ] like. everything is it could go down and I. [ __ ] didn't do anything you know now. the biggest moment of my life that I've. been preparing for is is in Jeopardy so. UFC expedited the test they come back. and Donna calls me she's like. okay okay exactly excuse me exactly what.

you stated did show up on the test so we. have to issue you some type of. suspension for a failed drug test so. they just gave me two months but that's. completely separate from the Nevada. State athletic commission oh yeah so. that's what I'm in now that's the. situation so what are they trying to do. so I still suspended under Nevada state.

but they still haven't given me the time. yet specifically so yet today was. supposed to be another hearing. but as far as I know right now it's. going to be somewhere nine months or. more Jesus Christ yes for DHE for DHEA. and crazy so crazy and and so UFC is. they're they're they're trying to help. and we're trying to get this like come.

on guys like I'm being penalized. for reporting self-reporting. self-reporting something that's not even. performance that's not even my fault you. get what I mean like I didn't. intentionally do this so like it's just. it's it's a really really rough time. right now Joe like it's it's hard to for. me to really kind of like keep it. together especially like you were saying. like I was scheduled to fight Jamal and. like I'm at a point in my career right. now where man I felt like I feel like.

I'm really damn close but now I don't I. don't know what the hell's going on. because I'm being held up. by by all this stuff yeah you are really. damn close you're really really close. and every time we see you you look. better and I was really looking forward. to that fight because I think that would. be that's a giant test you know Jamal is. a former Champion yes and uh he's going. to be angry coming off that loss to. Pereira yes man yeah so you you're in. limbo right now I'm in limbo dude it's. and how many months ago was 303 303 was.

uh what was it may. may may may okay so here we're in July. and so you still don't have an answer. yet and if if it's nine months was it. would it be 9 months from the day. eligible and 6 months from now so you. could maybe do December. card no N9 months No 9 months from uh. from the DAT of a positive test I think. that comes out I can think comes out to. February oh wow July August October.

November yeah like February so I. wouldn't be able to fight until next. year God damn it yeah dude and so like. it's and you're so close in this so. close heated up division heated up. division things are moving you know guys. are fighting. um dude I mean like even to not fight. this long I. mean I don't think people have or it. does so much for me man financially. like you know what I mean like dude I. got mortgage like like shit's it's been.

it's been such a huge thing on also. momentum. momentum uh yeah not fighting I mean and. you're in your Prime right now yeah dude. it's I I when I even think about it like. it it brings up so many different. emotions you know like I do my best to. work through them and I've been training. my ass off you know I like I've I've. tried do everything that I. can in this time to just stay prepared.

and just even though even if I know that. I'm going to be fighting next year or. something like that like I'm just like. okay I don't I have to I have to stay. strong I have to keep progressing right. I have to continue to be better every. time you know every fight well you were. after the Anthony Smith fight you just. you're so hot right now I mean it's like. on that level where like this guy might. break through and become Champion you're. in that range you know yeah and that's I. mean that's where I'm heading. like I'm so focused. on whatever it takes to get to that.

championship and that Jamal Hill fight. was like the way that I was looking at. okay this is my way to prove that I'm. ready yeah the. only I mean hopefully that fight can get. rescheduled you know because my biggest. Focus right now is man I want to fight. Alex man I just I know that that's going. to be a great fight that everyone is. going to love and I know that stri. Delight yes and I know that I have to uh.

you know like yeah I've got to fight. Jamal and maybe that'll maybe like if. that happens first then that'll still. keep me in that position of like talks. of like okay then now you're ready for. it who knows what's going to happen who. knows how many fights it's going to take. now for me to get that fight that's the. one to me in my mind that I'm like. that's the one that I want really well. fortunately Jamal unfortunately for him. Jamal got injured and so he had to pull. out that fight too that whole card that.

that fight switched so many different. times yeah so when you think about but I. think Jamal had a knee injury right yeah. it looked like uh something pretty bad. yeah and so that who knows what what's. going to happen with that that could. take him out for many months we don't. know I don't know if he had surgery what. was the extent of Jamal's knee. injury I believe it was like a a severe. meniscus tear yeah something like that. and like a lot of fluid it looked like. yeah yeah so you know have you had any.

knee issues uh yeah when I when I was 15. uh I broke my knee in the in the pit. hardcore pit oh no yeah I was Ming going. crazy some guy had some steel toe boots. on and he was just flinging around and. boom kicked my knee and broke my uh. tibia oh God at the top bone was. sticking out Jesus Christ yeah and then. crazy thing at the time I was on tour. with the band that I was uh playing with.

and we were close to like Mexico and so. we went to this like shitty Hospital. like Southern California like close to. the border and I was only 15 16 at the. time something like that and they were. like parents insurance I was like I. don't know I don't have anything but my. leg is the size of a football right now. fix it so they like shot me up with some. type of drug and put a brace on me and. gave me crutches and they were like. peace and I had to drive from Southern. California to Vegas which took us at the.

time two days because we had to make. stops because I was in pain with a. broken leg nothing had been done yet my. God and we were young so my friends. would stop at like a Walgreens or. something get a bunch of cough medicine. bad drill here drink this oh here you. know like just try to put me out because. I'm in a van with a broken leg oh my God. yeah dude it was crazy so yeah I've. broken but nothing nothing torn or. anything like that but oh so that healed. up and you're good to go yeah I'm good.

now yeah it's kind of amazing when you. think of how many fights you've had and. all the kicking you do You' had no knee. injuries nothing wow no dude um yeah. thankfully I mean [ __ ] it's it's been. really good um I feel better now than I. ever have like everything's strong this. is this is great this a great time for. me as far as just like athletic like. progression well dude you look so good. in that Anthony Smith fight ah thanks D. I loved that fight man I loved that. fight that was one of my favorites uh I.

watched it I watched it back um that off. speed when you hit him with that. uppercut yeah oo that was I started you. know the crazy thing like I'm I'm glad. you pointed that out I I don't know I. think I started that in the first or. second round that was something that I. was like doing intentionally that the. reason why that's my favorite fight is. because from start to finish I was 100%. locked in zeroed in I still remember. that fight now as if it were yesterday. so like you know that hints to like the. I didn't finish him because I was just.

locked in there was nothing like overly. emotional I just I was in there to eat. man it seemed like and I I didn't I. didn't. feel emotional in that fight at all. everything was just locked clear locked. in. strategy yeah pick my shots wisely it. was a masterpiece thanks man and it's. one of those fights where there's. there's a certain time in a Fighter's. career with they this breakthrough and. you go oh boy he's right there like. they're right there we like I want to.

see that guy fight all these other folks. I want to see that guy fight all these. other killers in that division yeah. that's where I'm at yeah and that. division is you know it's interesting. because Alex is such a dominant Champion. but there's not a lot of compelling. Challengers for him you know it's anv. who I think is going to be next I think. they're they're pretty much saying that. yeah that makes sense that makes sense. and then Yan bovich of course because. his fight was pretty close with Alex I. think it was a split split decision yeah. I think so yeah and he's for whatever.

reason not being considered I think a. lot of people looking past bovich. because he's older yeah you know yeah. but you can't I mean you can't look past. anybody right I mean look how far Glover. came right right you know like and I. think yeah it it it's crazy yeah you. can't you can't Overlook anybody well at. the elite elite level yeah you there's. just there's so many of those look. bovich and Yan and rather bovich and um. analiia fought a draw remember that. fight so those guys are like right there. like there's so many it's tightly.

contested fights in that division yeah I. just I think I'm I'm not like [ __ ]. on anybody or you know saying that like. I deserve this any over anybody I just. I'm excited man like I just want to give. the fans that fight I want to give. myself that fight you know what I mean. like just for it just for the for the. experience like I don't plan to shoot. any Tak down on this guy you know what I. mean I don't think he plans shooting. take Downs on me and I think that it's.

like and there's. really when you have two guys that. strike like we do and that are skilled. in we like you know like we're. thoughtful we know everything's precise. it's not just we're not going in there. and just slang and bang you know like. Izzy says button pushers button smash. it's not that it's it's two guys that. would know hey man this's get in at any. moment yeah it could end in the first. second but it also could go five because. the both of us are [ __ ] Warriors so I. just think.

like and and while he's still doing his. best you know like while he's still at. the peak is kind of like because I'm. doing my best and I'm getting to the my. Peak and you get these two guys at the. highest level and like [ __ ] that's a. sick fight that's what I'm saying like. that's a sick fight it's not like me. that's what I'm saying you know so like. hopefully he continues to win hopefully. I'm not suspended for that long and if I. have to fight someone else in between.

like you know in between then okay I. understand um you know if it's Jamal. Hill if he gets back and they book us a. five rounder and then it's like okay. who's you know winner of this can fight. the champion okay cool I'm down for. something like that you know um but yeah. man they got to work that out who is the. head of the Nevada State athletic. Commission Now. Jeff Mullen is it Jeff I think Jeff's a. reasonable guy very smart guy seems like.

it yeah he'll well I don't know how much. say he has on how things get sorted out. yeah but he's a martial artist too yeah. yeah yeah so he's a lot of those a lot. of those guys are you know I went I went. so I thought that I was supposed to have. my hearing I guess you want to call it. uh last month and I showed up in person. like they allow public comments like. time for so the public can come in the. beginning so I came and I saw these guys. and I'm like oh I know all of you I you.

know in my mind I thought it was like. some crazy thing you know like oh man I. have to go and so I showed up and I. looked around the room and everybody. sitting around this table like all the. board and I was like oh I've seen every. single last one of you at every fight. right so I felt more comfortable and I. kind of like let him know like hey guys. I'm. here I think that my case is today you. know they were like no it's not until. next month and I was like okay well I. just hopefully you guys can kind of look. into the facts and just see like yeah.

this is not my fault not only not your. fault but not going to help you in any. way yeah you took DHEA for a couple. months that doesn't mean anything yeah. it's not going to do a [ __ ] not even for. a couple of months a couple days oh. there you go okay a couple of days yeah. yeah yeah there's no way that's going to. give any performance in hand I just see. I hate paperwork that things it seems. like logical heads would go oh clear. them yeah yeah if you have to suspend it. for two months okay two months is not. that big a deal yeah let's get it right.

back of the hunt reschedule a fight you. know we got so many big fights coming up. after this fear there's Salt Lake City. which is I think Salt Lake City is going. to be uh Holloway in ilad deoria o yeah. that's a good one yeah and then of. course H fan here out H God damn man how. about that gatei fight I was there I was. there it was crazy the way that you know. when people do like the wave in crowds. it was this was like the [ __ ] atomic.

bomb boom boom dude and then everyone. like the last second you know like it's. crazy because it's like okay you're. watching this fight and you're like okay. cool yeah Max got this you know in the. bag and then gatei comes and he's. swinging and it's like oh okay like. everyone's still engaged right because. they're fighting but then like as soon. as that hit boom insane the entire Arena. I was getting chills just thinking about. it like being in that moment that was. sick it was so crazy and Max versus Tor.

is going to be wild going great that is. a wild fight Toria is a [ __ ] Savage. yeah he's a Sav he's he's so Savage. which brings me to what I was going to. say about Jamal I I'm I'm very sad that. he hurt his knee you know I certainly. want him to get better but I did not. like him taking that fight with you so. quickly after getting KO by Pereira no. nope I don't like guys taking fights. real quickly I mean I like it for you. but I don't like it for him I don't. think it's smart I think you feel okay. but I don't think you're okay and I.

think that's volkanovski after he got K. koed by Islam and then a couple months. later he fights Ilia and gets knocked. unconscious yeah that's real man you. know you you've been stopped before you. know what it's like yeah it's like. you're not quite right for a long time. after that yeah yeah I don't know man. like when it happened and when like when. they called me and told me that this was. the situation um that was a lot of the. fans response and the people that I know. they're like dude what's wrong with this.

guy like why he and I'm like honestly my. response to everybody was like dude. that's not of my business right it's up. to him you know what I mean like. whatever he chooses to do that's on him. yep um but I mean it does I don't to me. it seems like him I mean he seems like. someone who's very like [ __ ] it. headstrong I'll do what I want you know. like okay cool dude do you I'm gonna. continue to do me and then it's really. look he might be fine I mean he got. clipped and dropped and then he got. beaten up when he was on the ground and.

he stood right back up afterwards maybe. he didn't get a concussion maybe just. got dinged who knows but like guys have. like merco crop cop in Pride he fought. Kevin randomman and he got koed bad real. bad and then he fought again 25 days. later what was the result of that one or. who did he fight do you remember I. forget see if you find uh mco's record. but then he eventually fought randan. again and then choked him D I missed. those I miss those days those days were. I remember when like getting first. introduced to MMA and seeing Crow cop.

throw those high kicks oh my God and. just folding people oh my God bro oh my. God folding people folding people to the. body folding people to the head anywhere. so so where where does it say there go. all the way back Kevin randman so he. loses a randan and he fights kahara and. then he fights oama and then he fights. Alex a milon enko and then he fights. Josh Bernett and then he gets a rematch. with Kevin ran but so look at the time. so April of of 2004 holy April fight in.

May a month later a month later takes a. month break comes back in July yeah bro. they were F fight August then again in. October and again in December and then. again February fights Mark Coleman holy. [ __ ] D he oh my God those guys were. getting after it Hall of Famer right oh. 100% 100% 100% Hall of Famer and back. then those guys weren't they W like the. whole thing of Pride back then they.

didn't get called until like two weeks. before the fight C no one even knew who. was on the card didn't even know no they. all like it was all like everybody just. had to train get ready was it just like. the guys were training and then they get. a call and then they'd say like x amount. of money and they're like cool we'll be. there yep and then show up and you a lot. of it you got paid in cash in cash right. so they're like yeah I'll go get that. bag they had Corner men that were like. taping cash bundles to their body yeah. yeah yeah I did hear stories about that. I heard a lot of St about that man what. a time it was a wild time it' be cool if. it were still kind of like that like.

they had leagues that were like that. that would be cool well would be cool if. there was an organization that was. competing with the UFC at that level. like that Pride was at the time like. saana super Arena that saitama super. Arena I think is 990,000 people it was. full full for Pride nuts and then you. know the scandals the Yakuza all that. stuff and it just kind of goes away but. at one point in time they were bigger. than the UFC it was huge it wasu and it.

was huge here too everybody watched it. especially martial artist everybody. watched noera when he was the champ and. Fedor when he was going through his. prime over there yeah when I got into. MMA I think I watched more Pride than I. did UFC and at the time it wasn't live. right but like if I had to go buy a DVD. from Zia Records or something it's like. yeah of course I'm going to buy the it'd. be a pride event and you'd have to stay. offline cuz you'd find out the results. and they wouldn't air it for a while. later like sh days maybe even Weeks. Later yeah that was before I wasn't even. that deep into the into the game yet I.

was just watching like DVDs and YouTube. videos I think and they would have them. sometimes live and you know it would be. live in America so you'd have to watch. at like 4:00 in the morning oh my God. yeah were you one of those guys yeah I. had a bunch of guys over bunch of guys. from Jiu-Jitsu came over my house we all. watched it at like 4:00 in the morning. that's pretty sick well speaking of. Jiu-Jitsu I'm going to compete in World. Masters really when are you doing that. uh it's the end of uh August in Vegas. the only thing that makes me nervous.

about stuff like that is when the guy. yes the guy at your level that's like. right there with a shot at the title. like you're you're a fight or two away. from a potential world championship. fight yeah and then you're going to let. some dude leg lock you it's not going to. happen so you say that but no no no it's. not going to happen I mean like so this. is this is something that I'm trying to. just do for myself to like man I've been. training like a dog you know and like. what belt do you know I'm purple so I've.

been training like a dog uh I feel good. yeah g and I just like it's it's not. that serious to me right it's not like. I'm putting everything on the line to go. win this thing it's like no dude I just. I kind of just want to get in there. and khil you're a Savage once you get in. there you're going to be going all why. are you lying to me why you staring me. in the eye a straight up killer why you. lying to me I I am a killer but I think. uh I think it's a little bit different.

when it comes to like going in here and. competed with you did to I think for me. the reason why I kind of made this. decision is and I mean it all like it's. a 170 something bucks or whatever to to. register right like I could just say at. the last minute like nah you know I'm. not going to do it but um I think it's. another way for me to get out and like. and hang out with the fans dude like I. have a lot of fans in the jits community. as well and a lot of friends in that. community and I go to Worlds every year. and hang out there and sometimes I get.

the itch like man it' be cool to just. you know hop in here and have three. matches four matches in a day like. whatever so that's kind of more my. Approach I just want to get there kind. of connect with the people yeah I'll. I'll throw my ghee I'll compete. but I'm not going to get injured if. something's you know if. something's if someone's got my. leg ankle lock something like that like. okay let's that's maybe I'll tap maybe. I'll tap it makes me think about Cub.

Swanson remember Cub Swanson blew out. his ACL in a grappling competition I. didn't know that yeah he blew out his. ACL in a grappling competition uh I. think it was noie and it was um you know. when it was a couple years back when Cub. was you know doing really well and for. sure it slowed his momentum he had to. get now you're like freaking me out I I. mean I thought about it right the. thought of injury came dud don't I will. tell you right now don't do it [ __ ]. it's not worth it come on Joe listen you. probably will be fine but if not if not.

if not then it's another you know how. many videos people have sent me over the. last week of uh dudes getting heel. hooked with their leg breaks snaps like. hard loud. cracks I'll show you something no dude I. hate that. [ __ ] yeah no I don't want to know it I. don't leg lock game right now is so high. it's so high level and are people leg. locking in G I don't know I don't know. what what I don't think you can like. inside heel hook there's there's a bunch. of things that the problem is the.

friction of the ghee yeah yeah creates. this uh. unnatural control yeah uh yeah I mean. like I'll I'll I'll give it more thought. the other thing is it's like scrambles. like in scrambles knees blow out yeah. you know cuz scrambles in the gym and. scrambles in training are different yeah. yeah yeah in competition in competition. you're you're way. more like you're going to push 100% in. competition more explosives yeah yeah. yeah weird stuff happens yeah weird [ __ ]. happens dude you're right there you're.

right there you're right there I would. say [ __ ] don't do it I was so sure. until I had this conversation with you. if I can talk you out and doing it. please listen imagine you do that you. blow out an ACL yeah then I'm an idiot. yeah it makes no sense for no reason ah. [ __ ] it's not worth it okay I would not. be snowboarding I would not be doing. anything oh that's okay okay no nonsense. don't [ __ ] around well there's no no. reason for nonsense right now you're. right there dude damn you're right there.

you guys heard it Joe Rogan just talked. me out of God I did I'm glad you got to. listen to me wow a lot guys like oh you. [ __ ] [ __ ] shut up BR you [ __ ] no but. here's the thing like I would hate to. have this conversation with you and. you'd be so like adamant and passionate. about like dude don't do it and then. something did happen and I well I'd hate. to even try now because I put it in your. head. I I don't want that to be in your head. if you want to do it maybe I'll talk to. you again and try to like text you're.

going to be fine dude you're. awesome I'm sure you'll be in complete. control these guys can't [ __ ] with you. what purple belts going to be able to. tap you yeah but just been I've been. trying to stay you know somewhat active. it's crazy that you say like. snowboarding [ __ ] because I picked up. skiing o last year oh yeah yeah super. natural everything was good of course um. but thankfully I picked it up at the end. of the winter so I only got like three. months in but I did hit some black.

diamond runs in Whistler one that was. like the the guy told me he's like oh. this is the one that they did in the. Olympics and I was like oh okay cool. I'll try it Jesus uh I did really well. um but outside of that I mean I play a. lot of golf dude well golf is a good one. yeah you're not going to get hurt doing. golf not going to get hurt doing that so. I'll just stick to that look at [ __ ]. Trump he's 80 years old he's out there. playing golf what a Mania yeah. dude how the hell is this guy yeah yeah. yeah get shot in the ears course day.

that's actually one thing that I that I. found out about skiing too because like. here's the thing yeah skiing anything. like that can be dangerous but when I. was out there I didn't see anybody over. the age of 40 on a snowboard right but I. saw guys 80 years old my father-in-law. skiing yeah you know and I'm like okay I. want to pick up things that I can do for. a long time I want to be active now like. ever since I made the change and became. a fighter and all these things and like. my life's changed and I want to stay.

active I think that's very important to. like stay active as long as you can and. so I picked up some Hobbies because I am. an extreme guy skiing can be an extreme. sport yeah you know but it can also be. very you know it can also be very chill. so things like Golf and skiing have been. kind of I stopped skiing a couple years. ago because I I wiped out bad and uh it. was not my fault I was going around turn. and this lady didn't know how to ski and. she was kind of like sliding into the. trail and I had two decisions either.

plow right into her and [ __ ] this lady. up or fall and I chose to fall and I. didn't have much control over how I felt. cuz it was like at the edge of the turn. and I slammed my head the back of my. head bad defin definitely got a. concussion but also broke the top of my. leg it's called an insufficiency. fracture okay it's where the top of your. shin hits your cartilage okay it still. [ __ ] with me to this day. and um top of your shin there's a crack. at the top of my shin like at the top of.

my tibia oh that's why I broke my leg. that's why I broke my knee same spot. right mine was not bad it was just a. crack but I went to the doctor I'm like. man something's wrong which just like. it's not this is this feels [ __ ] up. and they did the X-ray and everything oh. you have a crack [ __ ] a crack in your. bone yeah there's nothing they can do. about it they said it'll be okay in six. weeks but I'm like [ __ ] skiing I'm done. and I was like the rest of the day I was. out of it I I tried to get on the ski. lift and I fell cuz I was so dizzy like. I tried to get like I tried to get up. and then I had a hard time getting back.

up they had to help me up like an old. man I couldn't get up I was like I was I. I hit my head hard cuz I remember when. my head hit when I heard the bang of my. head hit the the the pack snow it was. like icy snow I remember thinking oh. that's a concussion yeah like right away. I was that's a real concussion if you've. taken blows to the head before and. things like that you can feel like [ __ ]. that was like harder than I think I've. ever been kicked in the head it was bang. it was like oh [ __ ] man and I was just.

dizzy the whole day I was thinking about. going to the doctor for that but I'm. like let me just see how I deal with. life you know I don't know what they. would do for me other than hospitalize. me and monitor me but I know I knew I. got rocked how has uh how has your. training been going what you been what. have you been doing training wise I like. I said my knee still [ __ ] with me and. so that's kept me from doing Jiu-Jitsu. because it's just I don't want to get. injured you I'm 56 and as you get older. injuries take [ __ ] forever to come.

back from and I've had a couple of. problems with this knee this I had. surgery on it and then uh one time I I I. [ __ ] up my MCL about when I was about. to get on stage so I was doing these. shows with uh Dave Chappelle at uh stubs. which is in town during the pandemic and. um they're bringing me up to the stage. and I'm turning the recorder on on my. phone as I'm walking up these cement. stairs and I wasn't paying attention cuz. the stairs kind of turn and I stubbed. like the top of my foot as I was like.

stepping up and I kind of heel hooked. myself and like hard like painful and. then I went on stage and my leg was. shaking from the pain and it looked like. I was terrified to be up there I'm so. nervous the show went great people. probably didn't even notice if they. didn't weren't in the front row and see. my leg shaking yeah but so you got this. Netflix special thing coming up did you. fil it already no you're going toil it's. live it's live Saturday night dude like. I where do I find it on Netflix it'll be.

on Netflix Saturday night yeah I'm. excited to see that it's going to be fun. I was actually kind of looking at some. stuff like knowing you know like few. weeks month a month in events that i' be. here I'm like I want to see some some of. Joe Rogan's like comedy [ __ ] but I. couldn't find a lot of like recent stuff. I'm GNA put some of it online today I. have a clip that Netflix sent today that. I put online but I haven't done a. special in 6 Years cuz I was supposed to. do a special right when the pandemic. broke out okay so the pandemic broke out. in March and I was going to do a special. in August and then everything just shut. down I was like what the [ __ ] and so and.

then I just came here moved bought a. club started to building my own club oh. this uh Saturday 9:00 Saturday 9 9 o'. Texas time 7 o'clock Nevada time okay. we're going to have a watch party at my. house should be fun yeah I'm going have. some friends over oh that'll be cool man. I'm excited for it yeah I've been liking. uh I've been liking comedy a little bit. more lately like it's a good relief for. a fighter yeah I'm like I'm such a like. serious guy [ __ ] sensitive and.

serious you know I take everything to. heart but I've noticed that like just. opening up and like watching other guys. do standup and stuff it's really fun. like just having just being able to. laugh about certain [ __ ] has been really. cool you know yeah um yeah actually. after I after all this [ __ ] happened one. of the first things I did Ronnie Chang. invited me out to a show oh yeah he was. in town um he does Jiu-Jitsu I don't. know if you know that no yeah how long's. he been doing it uh a few years now I. think he's.

a blue belt blue a purple belt W pretty. good um we trained at the pi we rolled. that's awesome super cool had some good. rounds he filmed like this little thing. that never got released but um yeah that. same same day he's like hey I'm having a. show tonight in Vegas at the Venetian. like come by I'd love to have you and I. went and so cool man so funny yeah sure. Ronnie's a good dude man yeah very very. funny guy I love his angry comedy yeah.

it's so good he's angry at everybody. being so stupid so stupid he's like his. napkins part like he was like saying. something about Americans like just. always so many [ __ ] napkins napkins. and like screens screens it's funny it's. very relevant I love it yeah he's a. smart dude it's a good time for comedy. you know because also whenever the world. is about to be on fire you know when the. everything's going crazy everywhere you. look it's a good time for comedy cuz. there's so much [ __ ] to talk about yeah.

um damn so now I'm not going to do. Jiu-Jitsu do tournament please don't do. it I wouldn't ski either I tell you. don't ski you're just too close yeah to. close you're too close you're too close. to like one of the most important things. that a combat sports athlete could ever. possibly achieve you're so close like. the UFC champion is the greatest fighter. on Earth it's there's no if ends or. butts about it in that way class UFC. champion is the greatest fighter on. world the only thing that you can. contest that is with okay 1 FC has some.

Elite Fighters Bellator has some Elite. Fighters pfl has some Elite Fighters. there's there's guys out there that are. really Elite that just so happen to have. been signed by or other organizations. but MMA fighters at a championship. level you know ultimately are the best. fighters on Earth yeah and you're that. close yeah yeah so just stay yeah stay. safe just keep training man keep. training keep training stay focused keep. proving you know every time I see you. you're better it's obvious that you I. remember when you came back from.

Thailand you fought Eric Anders you love. that one I love it I love it cuz when. you bring me up on other podcasts and. you talk about that I'm like [ __ ] yeah. he still remembers that one dude because. i' had seen you fight before and I knew. you were good but there was like. something happened it's like what the. [ __ ] happened like this is just a. Monumental you know you see like numbers. like you you you went up like 30% or. something crazy yeah and then even in. that fight yeah there was like 75 low. kicks landed like things like that it. was the smoothness to it too it was the.

technique it changed me dude yeah like I. mean we talked about it like Thailand. was like one of the best things for me. and like my heart is still there there's. still a huge connection did you go back. I I did I went back uh after the Smith. fight but I went back for just pure like. let me just get retapped in and then I. went there and then uh that's where Mia. and I we got married there like we had a. tie ceremony it was really cool oh. that's cool yeah so we just kind of like. I hadn't been back since the pandemic so. we went back and just I needed it you.

know cuz i' been focused and just. training so I like let me go back home. cuz it it feels more home to me there. than anywhere else a lot of people mov. there just cuz it's so cheap have you. seen it I mean everybody's there now man. yeah everybody's there now so um yeah. it's it's been cool I've I still stay. active in in that area home I've been. working on some new stuff I'm I'm very. excited for whenever I do fight. again cuz I know it's just I know it's a. better version of me man like I'm I.

don't know as I maybe it's like as I get. older and just like I guess where I'm at. in my life and the mental shift that. I've made towards training and you've. had some moments in the past where you. weren't like fully locked in yeah and. then but you've always come back from. those and been locked in in the next. fight yeah you know so I think now you. realize like hey this is it this is the. push for Glory I think one. I don't know if a lot of people realize. this but. I've I've pretty much spent my entire.

career in the UFC when I got into the. ultimate fighter I had three. professional fights that's crazy yeah. dude I got into the ultimate fighter. three. and0 I had all my fights in the RFA in. the beginning LFA. now at middleweight and then Ultimate. Fighter light heavyweight season comes. up and I'm like okay [ __ ] it I'll try. out I can make the weight made it then. got the contract so all of my fights. besides the first three have been in the. UFC so like yeah there's been some crazy.

like ups and downs but I feel like now. I'm at a point where yeah I'm that is a. crazy place to develop crazy place to. develop there so many guys are coming in. now the UFC like 21 fights 21 fights 15. and0 you know like they they've built. you know they've kind of built their. style and they've gone through all the. adversity before then they get to the. Big Show it's like no dude in a way like. I was kind of born in the Big Show and. you know like as soon I as soon as I got. into it Dana was hyped because of my. Ultimate Fighter performances so he. starts throwing me on like main cards.

you know right you know I'm on the Big. Show I'm fighting in arenas already all. this [ __ ] and then the go goans saki. fight and then you know like that was a. huge one yeah dude so that was a huge. one gokan had so much hype coming in. from so much you know Glory Champion K1. yeah goom was a legend yeah so it's it's. been kind of cool to finally get to that. spot where like. I feel good you know like I feel good. I'm confident in what I what I can do. now I know exactly where I'm going I'm.

not like one foot in one foot out and. you know I got one thing that I'm. focused on and that's being the champion. well the work showed in the Anthony. Smith fight it really did I mean that. this this trajectory that you're on. showed that you're you're on a new level. yeah dude new. level new level for sure and uh you know. one thing that kind of crazy that helped. me for the preparation of that fight cuz. he took it last man 10 10 days notice I. was scheduled to fight another guy uh he.

got pneumonia like kind of the week week. before or something like that but uh I. did a lot of shooting for that uh for. that camp I went shooting and that. changed my perspective cuz I'm not a. guns guy and oh like shooting in a Range. yeah and it changed it just changed a. lot in what. way you know we were talking about. earlier how like like Brilliance and. like physical ability and like mental um.

yeah I I'd never I was never a guned guy. like my dad was murdered so like from a. young age I just kind of had this like. weird relationship with guns um and yeah. I've had guns yeah whatever pull on me. blah blah blah but when I made that. decision to go and like. actually learn from a guy who was. uh Navy SEAL had a lot of expertise had. a really good way like we spent hours of.

him just explaining to me certain things. you know gun safety blah blah blah. different. situations um his mentality clearing. buildings blah blah blah so I'm taking. all this in all this information and. processing it all and then I finally. start to. shoot. and the power that I felt from the gun. you know just like the the. accuracy that I felt from shooting an. AR-15 the understanding of like. different caliber of bullets um made me.

start to then. formulate how I'm going to strike like. you know. like man I'm giving away Secrets [ __ ] it. so um even on the like the Anthony Smith. fight like my left hand I'm like okay my. left hand is 5.56 that's that's the. ammunition for [ __ ] you know for AR. so like that's how I was kind of. processing everything so every time I. threw my left hand I'm thinking of the.

sound and the feeling of the AR really I. was. like you know like yeah so I'm like okay. like feeling the target whatever just. kind of like okay what do I feel like. [ __ ] loading okay load it you know. like I'm just thinking about every time. I shot the gun every time I shot the. pistol it's like I was like really yeah. wow so like it was it it really like I. was able to kind of pull from that. experience and then bring it into my.

fight but then also not only that I was. also thinking about like the things that. this guy was telling me when it came to. like when they're in combat when they're. clearing buildings and so like just. emotionally it's so crazy dude before. that. fight my my strength and conditioning. coach Lorenzo he's a big big shooter guy. um military you know but big big on. shooting big on self-defense and the day.

of the fight you know like I'm obviously. just in the zone and I'm sitting in the. living room because I stay with him. during camps we just do it that way so. I'm like sitting in the living room kind. of just shaking back and forth because I. have so much. energy and he knows that I've. been putting in my experiences from. shooting into my training and it's crazy. I was sitting there dude and I have my. hood on too inside and I'm just like. rocking back and forth and he comes and. he just [ __ ] sets an AR-15 right. there on my lap oh wow and walks away.

and I'm just like just rocking back and. forth and I'm. like you know and then we and then we. drive to the Apex from the house and. then wow like so the whole yeah the. whole time and in my head even as we're. walking out he's like 5.56 5.56 and I'm. like yeah yeah yeah 5.56 and then in the. first round he's like 556 and I just I. kept saying that in my head 556 556 B. wow just [ __ ] dude it was crazy. that's an interesting visualization tool. because you think about it like that's.

really how you want your strikes to land. you want them to be almost instantaneous. from the time you pull the trigger from. the time you pull the trigger yeah Y and. you like what's your right. hand right hand was wasn't even a weapon. it was like I wasn't looking at it like. that it was kind of more like range. really yeah rang finder but I'd say like. I'd say that when I did throw the jab it. was probably everything for that like. was 5.56 so even my jab I threw some.

pretty clean Jabs in there yeah um but I. I wanted it to land straight accurate. and like fast and so it wasn't like you. know shotgun I'm not like oh boom bo no. thinking like I'm thinking the sound the. reaction Precision Precision. instantaneous instantaneous you know. what I mean like not a lot of recoil. just. like yeah Sting sting like just like. that that's interesting to visualize it. that way mhm you know because you know. sometimes you see guys throwing punches.

at a lower level and you see them like. grit and swing and everything's wide and. yeah hoping it lands yeah no I was very. intentional with every every movement. every strike in that fight um so far. that's my favorite one before that it. was Eric Anders cuz it was like oh got. to do some mu Tha but this one this I. still got to throw some you know tie. style type of stuff as soon as like my. posture kind of relaxed I remember one. of the commentators like oh here comes.

the tie you know I was like okay uh so. that was cool um but I think the you. know the weapon kind of mentality for me. was was nice that's interesting that's a. great way to think about it really you. know yeah it's a great way to visualize. like the instantaneous response yeah but. that's me dude every time every fight's. something different. like I that's the art side of me for. martial arts you know that's how I'm.

able to stay in this that's how I'm able. to grow it's it's more than fighting. it's more than ego it's more than my. dick's bigger than yours you know like I. don't like that to me that [ __ ] [ __ ] it. like that's why it's kind of hard for me. too to like position myself in the right. way and like build the fan base and like. have the income and stuff like that I. think like that I could potentially have. right I'm more of an artist because I'm. using you know I need it like I'm. naturally an artist so I like I need to. find ways to like how do I express this.

so every fight's different because I'm. just trying to find a different way to. express myself and like what I'm going. through and how I'm feeling you know. what I mean it comes out in fights art. really it is the right term when people. call it martial arts and you know people. have had arguments like that's on an art. it's an art to people who understand it. because when you watch a person land a. beautiful combination. that's artwork that's like it's pretty. oh it's pretty you know you watch. someone land something good it's like.

that's pretty yeah you know and I I. don't I don't see a lot of it as much. anymore I think that's why I haven't. I've been watching fights for different. reasons nowadays you know like I'm. watching light heavyweights fight. watching heavy weights fight um and I'm. just trying to see like okay what's kind. of the common theme what's everybody. kind of working on but that's why I used. to like to watch you know Anderson and. leoto and all these guys cuz it was just. a different time they were bringing this.

kind of like fresh new look and yes you. know this different thing versus well. Anderson in particular he was an artist. oh yeah like when he landed that front. kick to vor's face like that was a piece. of beautiful piece of art beautiful and. it's just the timing involved in that. and then just the expression B Just. Landing it setting it up yeah have you. thought about going to. middleweight uh I have you walk around. at well I mean right now like under 230. over 2 over 220 so I'm like I I float in.

between the 220 so you're not an. enormous light heavyweight no no no I'm. probably one of the shorter ones um yeah. for sure and I thought about. middleweight but like I've done that. dexa scan thing at the pi and my body. with like just dense like no water just. bone and bone and muscle it's 186 oh God. so you got to get to death door yeah so. I've done it like the beginning of my. career and in the amateur days I did. fight at 185 but it was it was hell and. so now like I like to eat man yeah and.

obviously you're doing great yeah and I. like to train I like I think there. should be way more weight classes I. really really do I think there should be. one every 10 pounds yeah minimum that. that' be nice look at boxing yeah. there's a reason why there's a 147 and a. 154 and a 160 it's because there really. is a difference gen legitimate in their. Prime 154 and a 160 yeah for sure it's. just that's how it should be and when. you get a gap like 85 to 205 that's. crazy that's too big too big that's a. really big gap too big yeah and then.

another 25 lbs I mean uh or you know 205. to 265 is nuts weight cutting is it's. trash dude I don't like it I don't I. still like okay so I'm I walk around 220. 230 blah blah blah but I still don't. necessarily cut weight like I make sure. that I gradually go down I keep my food. consumption. the same all the way through Camp really. the only thing that changes is my. intensity goes up which causes my weight. to go down oh so I sit in the I sit in.

the sauna 30 minutes maximum oh that's. great to lose one pound so that's why. you're so physically from perfect when. you're fighting yeah dude I don't and. that's why like I'm five rounds for me. like I feel like it's going to be. nothing because I train year round at. the weight when I rehydrate I'm back up. to 225 blah blah blah where I'm used to. carrying my weight so when I'm doing all. my drills when I'm running and when I'm. jumping and when I'm doing all of the.

stuff that I'm doing to get better. physically that same person is the same. person that's stepping in the cage I. hate the idea of like expecting yourself. to perform at the highest level but for. the last two weeks or something like. you're depleting and then the last day. before you expect to be at the height of. physical performance you're dehydrating. your body and your brain and everything. of everything that just does it doesn't. make sense to me it should Beal it. should be I I honestly like I don't [ __ ].

with cutting weight it's just it that's. great you know like I just don't I don't. like it I don't think that it gives. anybody the advantage I really don't. like a guy who's you know oh I'm going. to cut down to 155 like what do you walk. around 190 you're [ __ ] stupid you. know like it's like yeah you're going to. be the bigger guy who cares like you. know what I mean like you're also going. to not be able to take shots as well. you're not going to be able to take. shots as well long term like if you. really want to do this if you really. want to be doing this long term it's not. going to be good for you you know what I. mean like I can only imagine that like.

at like a a smaller level like or like. at a deeper level it's probably bad for. your body do you think there's a. reasonable way to stop weight. cutting CU When WME bought the UFC I had. a conversation with Ari and I told him. you know what I would do I was like this. is what I would do if I was running the. show I'd get rid of weight cutting I'd. figure out a way he's like how you do. about the weight class I go blow them up. blow them up the stars are the most. important thing anyway no one's going to. give a [ __ ] if Alex Pera is the champion.

at 225 or 210 or 205 no one gives a [ __ ]. he's the champion right we all know he's. the champion so let's find out what he. actually weighs what do you weigh when. you're healthy what do you weigh when. you're healthy and lean like you do when. you get down to 206 or 207 when right. before you cut the last pound or two of. weight what do you weigh let's find that. out and that's what you should be. fighting at we should have adequate. weight class. so that like you don't have an elite. fighter that's starving himself to get. to a lower weight class because he's. really not big enough to compete at the.

20 lbs above weight class yeah and this. is I know that one instituted some sort. of hydration testing that's still. [ __ ] yeah that's what do you hear. about it so I I don't I can't I can't. give like an educated like I don't have. all the facts right now but from what. I've heard is that like it's from the. fighters that I have like friends in one. they just say like it's [ __ ] and. there's also like ways around it like. they can for instance like they test.

your the hydration right in your in your. urine to be able to be like okay if. you're if I if we detect that you're. dehydrated then that proves that you're. cutting weight but a lot of these guys. will dehydrate they'll cut weight and. then they'll chug a bunch of water and. just hold their piss you get what I mean. so like just so that when whatever I. don't know it's really weird but it. doesn't seem to so there's some. Shenanigans there's some Shenanigans I. think that one thing that people that. they could do as far as this weight. cutting thing just how they randomly.

test us we don't know when you is coming. or we don't know when antidoping is. coming weigh us too yes and we have to. be in between mhm x amount give us like. a 10 pound allowance you know what I. mean so it's not like you fight at 155. but when we came and tested you you're. 190 when Alex fought Izzy he weighed in. at 85 and then he made it into the cage. at 220 226 yeah nuts yeah nuts which is. it's crazy but that's like 40 lb that's. so much depletion that's so crazy that's.

so crazy you know what I mean like yeah. he gained a lot of weight but also like. how much let's look at the other side of. that how much did he deplete the day. before he's supposed to fight Israel. osna the heavyweight the or the. middleweight [ __ ] champion and when. Izzy knocked him out maybe that had a. factor I I'm almost positive that a lot. of these Knockouts and [ __ ] do happen. from weight cuts I think so man I think. so too yeah and then like our ability to. go x amount of rounds blah blah blah. like I think that it all plays Factor.

man especially with the inability to use. IVs yeah because they say that the brain. takes the longest time to rehydrate you. rehydrate your body in 24 hours but your. brain takes like 48 yeah they do a good. job at like giving us all the stuff you. know like all these liquids and things. like that like they do their job the UFC. always does their job but there can be. there can be some typ of change made. hopefully there is you know no one is. thinking about it at all there's no. attempts at all to do it just the. culture yeah they're just like people.

are just okay this is what we do this is. the culture I mean it's happened that. way for so long that they just have this. in their head yeah why would they change. it yeah I I just think there's a lot of. things that could be done differently. and I think the hydration thing is a. real big one I think that's a that's a. giant one because it doesn't it's it's. so bad for the performance of the. athletes cuz it's going to going to. weaken you 100% even if you Victorious. you look awesome you look less awesome. than you would look if you didn't have. to dehydrate yourself 24 hours ago MH.

period yeah also more dangerous also. kidney problems organs shut down and the. instances that I know that people have. died from MMA uh there was one in Russia. where a guy died from a fight that. apparently he had like some sort of a. pre-existing condition but I know of at. least two guys who died in Brazil from. weight cutting wow yeah we see it right. the we see these guys have to pull out. the night before or whatever because. they or the day of yeah I think a lot of. it is because of the way Cuts speaking. of hydration try this man what's this. this is my drink kill Cliff octane CBD.

uh oh I have to read the ingredients I. think it's okay Dana takes it Dana. drinks it it's legit it's good that's a. spicy Cherry yeah your company yeah my. well I'm one of the owners of the. company but this one I came up with me. and my friend cam this one's called elk. blood elk blood spicy Cherry it's good. but this is all cheers this is all uh. legit clean ingredients. and uh 2 m of CBD not too sweet right no. not too sweet at all spice to it yeah I. think great if the UFC was going to do.

anything differently that would be the. first one that I would say the second. one that I would say pay structure pay. structure for sure I knew I heard you. talk about that before they should be. getting more money 100% also I don't. like the win bonus thing that's that's. what I meant that's what I meant like I. think um I think the wi bonus thing is. like I hate it it does suck I did hear. you talk about that I forgot what. episode um. I think it was with Francis yeah yeah uh. I I I agree man it's it's pretty rough. you know like especially with bad.

decisions yeah it sucks like bad. decisions and then like you get half. your money crazy half yeah crazy [ __ ]. dude especially Split Decision half. that's nuts yeah I you know. like I'm I'm grateful whatever for you. know what I make but I do think that. it'd be a lot nicer to just not have to. pay or you know fight for win and show. that's the other thing that they need to. do and I really think this could be done. cover the tips of the fingers there's no.

reason why these fingers need to be. exposed okay so I've been testing I it's. it's been pretty cool I've been the guy. testing all of the new gloves like with. the with Ember from the. UFC one of the slight changes that. they've made is the padding in the glove. provides a little bit more curvature. towards the fingers. um but yes covering the fingers I think. would be something that would prevent. all the eye pokes that's one of I think.

the eye poke right now is probably the. scariest thing in MMA yeah getting poked. in the eye is I got poked the last Camp. actually preparing for um for Jamal Hill. and like it cut the entire like top. eyelid and I was like this is the. scariest [ __ ] ever um yeah I think that. should definitely be it's but it's not. going to happen anytime soon because all. these new gloves like the production I. don't get it when they said they were. going to have new they seem real similar.

to me Trevor Whitman in my opinion has. the best gloves the Onyx yeah I think. they're the best MMA gloves and they. they had some sort of there was some. negotiation with Trevor but he wanted. more money than they were willing to. give apparently was a lot of money I. don't know but I think it should be. different than that even I think it. should be like the Trevor Whitman gloves. but where the fingertips are I think you. cover it with just a piece of Le just a. leather yeah with like a little sliver. you can just yeah yeah so go you can. still grapple you just can't spread the. fingers exactly why would you spread the.

fingers like mittens exactly like. mittens exactly like mittens yeah you. just it's a piece of leather yeah so if. you wanted to hit someone with your. knuckles you still could then you still. have to worry about the thumb but that's. going to cut down think about the. percentage that it'll cut down on finger. pokes because a lot of them are this. right we see very we don't see a lot of. thumb so if it's this but if it has that. then it's not going to go in the eye if. it's a cover and the cover like you. never grapple like this you never close. your fingers together ever so what what. would it prevent in grappling nothing. what would it prevent in Striking.

nothing but it would prevent eye Poes. yeah it seems like a pretty clear. solution yeah I it's just crazy like. like anything right there's just a lot. of like uh just like politics and yeah I. think that that is one of the things. that could have been changed I don't. know why or who at the round table was. like yeah I don't know either we've. heard all the time we know that eye. poking is a thing but let's make the. same glove and just do it you know a. little bit differently well it's better.

everybody says it's better yeah better. it's lighter it's not perfect is it. lighter how much it's lighter it's. 3.5 oh half oun yeah half oun lighter uh. wrist is a little bit different like the. straps different uh the inside of the. knuckle part here is padded now so like. if you do throw like a hook like that. it's like it kind of makes me want to. punch like knife style right right is. your hands more protected yeah hands. more protected you can feel the the half.

ounce or like the you can feel that. really you can feel the difference I can. at least that's crazy yeah so um yeah. it's a it's I mean it's it's a decent. glove the only thing that we kind of had. some issues with in the beginning if you. guys saw in the makach Chev fight uh the. logo was coming off oh really. interesting so I've been testing that. and kind of just doing round after round. of just like in the cage you know. rubbing it on the canvas rubbing it on. the cage you know getting it wet.

Vaseline whatever to just make sure that. these logos don't come off because that. we can't have that right right right and. that's. um huh yeah yeah but overall they look. cooler the gold ones look cool the gold. ones the the contender ones are going to. be really cool yeah but the gold ones. the gold ones are cool oh the gold ones. are so cool. yeah nice yeah it is that's the new. that's the new uh new glove see the. contender one the baby blue yeah that's.

pretty sick it reminds me of the pride. when they had the blue blue gloves Pride. gloves were great too The Pride gloves. also curved more they they curved more. and you saw very few eye pokes in Pride. yeah uh who was that what's thaty. something with the i e something yeah. they were good they were good gloves um. but we'll see man we'll see you know. hopefully probably five years years five. more years like I don't know how long it. took them to change the glove I know it. took a long ass time I don't think. they're going to do anything different. honestly I think they're just going to.

keep it this way but I mean how many. fights get stopped because of eye pokes. a lot I mean look the rematch with balal. Mohammad and Leon Edwards they had to. have a rematch because Bal got I poked. my first fight B real bad you know one. thing that I did want to mention too is. um I had this discussion with a. friend you know when these. uh remember like the Drew Dober fight. and that that cut and there was a fight. before too like some guy like that eye. was just like hanging like the eyebrow.

was just hanging by a thread one thing. that would be cool is when these moments. happen and when this do when these. doctors come in to check obviously as. Fighters we're going to want to keep. going most of us cuz we got to win and. show money we need that we need that win. money right but um it'd be nice if they. like brought you know a a coach as well. to be able to kind of help call the. shots not just the doctor you get what I. mean. like I think that having coaches in your.

corner is a very important thing for. many reasons right they kind of keep us. in line give us advice what we're doing. things that they see but I think there. are times man where like some people. should have that coach that's like Dude. enough right right enough right. especially if you care about the it of. the. fighter I don't think that there's. enough. coaches in the sport that are like.

showing this kind of level of like care. or concern for their Fighters one thing. that I appreciate about my coaches in my. corner is like dude when you're done. with this we don't want you slurring we. don't want you [ __ ] drooling you know. we don't want you limping like you got. to get out of like you got to be done. with this healthy so that you can. continue to live a normal life right. this isn't the only thing you know and. I'm like wow that's a good perspective. so like when you're done you're in your. 40s right and then you have if you're. lucky you got 60 more years of life yeah.

yeah keep your teeth keep you know like. f it doesn't have to be that way you. know you don't have to be this [ __ ]. Barbarian right um so I think that like. for instance like if I had a cut like. that obviously I'm going to want to keep. going but that's a bad [ __ ] cut. that's like moments away from like your. ey is going to be exposed if you get. punched one more time depending on your. opponent so so like having having like. another person kind of be able to come. in and tell the fighter like dude look. it's over it's over yeah because we care. about you and yeah you need your money.

and like yeah but like let me make this. call not the doctor or you know what I. mean or the coach can be like hey like. there's a minute left there blah blah. blah tell the doctor we [ __ ] got this. you know what I mean like allow the. coach to come in at that moment too I. think it would be like that makes sense. but they're not medical professionals. and I know there a lot of lines that you. know probably well it's also you go. different athletic commissions have. different standards right New York is. notoriously rough they stopped things.

quicker they they they sto weight Cuts. quicker you know New York has had a. bunch of different issues with people. cutting weight um that's where hamzat. when hamzat um missed weight by eight. pounds they stopped him from cutting oh. was Theiss was that New York I don't. know if that was New York um New York. was definitely um um max Holloway when. Max Holloway was supposed to fight kab. and. um at I think the last minute they. pulled him out of the weight cut and. they said you can't do it because Max.

wasn't supposed to be fighting at all. that was when Tony Ferguson blew his. knee out okay yeah yeah yeah yeah damn I. didn't know it was the commission that. that like made that decision yes the. commission made a decision but that was. the early days of the UFC being in. Madison Square Garden as well okay that. was you know you know you got to realize. New York was so [ __ ] corrupt they. kept MMA out of New York forever forever. and then the guy who kept it out wind up. going to jail for. corruption shocker shocker crazy but uh.

yeah that that was a weight cut issue. Max was supposed to be fighting khabib. wow yeah which would have been why old. oh my God yeah especially now watching. Max now and Max is another one like. people because Max lost to volkanovski. you know people just sort of R wrote Max. off and said oh Max pass his prime like. nope yeah nope Max's better than ever. last fight how do you do you think that. we as UFC fighters should be able to.

like fight in like more like boxing or. Muay Thai type [ __ ] like outside of the. UFC well it. depends you know if if it's a guy like. you I would say. no you're too close Okay but if it's a. guy who is like coming up in the UFC and. he gets a you know you're only fighting. him once every 6 months anyway way and. he gets a possible Muay Tha fight if. that guy blows his knee out or that's on. him you know that's his decision if he. wants to stay active and do these other.

things as well sure but once you become. like super close and also super valuable. like you're you're a star now and in the. UFC there's only a few guys like you. that are not just stars but win in. spectacular fashion right that's like. I'd be like no you're not boxing no no. no no no no no no and look what it did. to Connor like it completely derailed. Connor's career sure he made a hundred. million fighting Floyd mether sure made. him a huge star I'm sure he would do it.

all over again if he could do it again. but the reality is you go back to the. Connor that beat Eddie Alvarez that the. Conor I mean that Conor was a. [ __ ] he was a [ __ ] dude. I wish we had that guy still man I. watched that that uh finishing. combination again today the Eddie. Alvarez one Eddie's punch motion. the [ __ ] algorithm Eddie Conor's got. his eyes wide. open look at the punch comes to his no.

the nose and look at this counter this. counter so nice oh my God right behind. the ear it's a perfect counter it just. rocks at he the tin look at that dude he. didn't even break eye contact he's still. looking atly and then the right hook. look at this. bang my goodness oh my goodness yeah. it's so crazy that that got fed to me. on my way here yeah this has been going. around today yeah Prime McGregor was so. smooth look at that I'm even smoothing.

now he says yeah I wish that was true. yeah same dude damn I wish that was true. but I mean maybe he is maybe he is and. we just need to see him fight again you. know it's been a couple of years I. really hope so like i' love to be able. to still get the feeling of seeing. Connor do amazing [ __ ] you know and by. the way I fully support him pulling out. of that fight the last don't fight with. a brok no that's crazy like people say. toe like whatever it's people are to. talk their [ __ ] but like did you stub. your toe and you're crying about it for. 5 minutes so imagine having a broken toe.

exactly you know like it's not yeah but. meanwhile when Alex fought Jamal. apparently he had a broken toe what was. it broken broken or was broken broken. really he had a broken pinky toe going. into that fight it going into it oh I. mean. well Shama. Shama Shama hey I mean hey. shama that's all I can say to that he's. ready to go yeah yeah oh my God is he. the guy that you think about when you. train yeah 100% it's like I never okay.

when I started this when I started MMA I. had a dream I had a dream of meeting. Anderson Silva and that dream came true. like I I just had a feeling I had a. dream I'm like man I want to meet this. guy I want to fight this guy something I. just want to be involved with this guy. meta. lived with him was in his wedding you. know like all that stuff and like okay. cool and since then I haven't had real. like a dream like a a vivid dream until.

I started seeing paa come into the light. heavyweight Division and you know all. these things and like now yeah I have a. dream and like my dream is to put on. like a very very memorable fight against. this guy like something that like no. matter what the fans are going to. [ __ ] love it it's going to be. memorable it's going to hopefully go. down. in the Hall of Fame one day you know. like something like that you know like. it's so yeah it's the guy that I think. about at the moment and you know and my.

motivation to train and to get better. and to be a better person to be a better. man it's like I'm [ __ ] grateful for. the guy in a way you know what I mean. like it's not a disrespect thing it's. more of like [ __ ] yeah thank you for. giving me something to like wake up for. every morning you know right for being. so dominant that the thing when you have. an incredible Champion it really does. make everyone inspired it makes people. rise yeah makes your skills have you did.

you ever watch vajto fight in in glory. no artam vajto is the last guy to beat. um to beat uh Alex and glory and he's. nasty he's this Russian kickboxer he's. really really [ __ ] good super. technical those kick boxes are crazy. dude yeah yeah Glory's it's glory is the. most uh in my opinion it's the most. underrated and underappreciated of all. the Combat Sports because the level that. those guys are fighting at is so high.

yeah I remember when I listened to when. your episode with with enanu and you. were talking about Cedric D I mean I. trained with him a little bit when I was. living in Europe and I walked into this. gym Joe I'm not even lying dude I. probably trained there twice and I was. like I can't I'm not [ __ ] Built For. This at at that time like at that time I. was still young like this was. I think it was could have been it was. around the goans saki fight maybe before. or after but I walked into this gym in. Belgium and it was just full of dogs and.

Cedric was there and he was training and. the way that these guys were just. drilling I was [ __ ] up my legs my arms. cuz they're they're blocking and their. offense defense drills are full speed. you know what I mean big gloves shin. guards but they're like w bang and then. back and forth and back and forth and. back. fulled back and and it's just I think. the class was like an hour and a half or. their training session was like an hour. and a half something like that and I. remember leaving and walking home in the.

cold and I was just like I'm supposed to. [ __ ] you know and they they knew like. oh this guy's a UFC fighter blah blah. blah so like I was like [ __ ] I have to. show up tomorrow I [ __ ] told them. that I came here to train I came all the. way to Belgium to. train show up the next day or whatever a. couple days later do it again and I'm. like dude I don't think I can come back. like [ __ ] this this like wow so the way. that these guys are training that are. like aspiring Glory Fighters and you. know current Glory Fighters it's a. different level man wow it's different.

level of ability of like what they can. take you know what I mean like just like. pain tolerance and just like their. routine and just what they're. conditioned for now um yeah it's a. what's the difference between the way. they train and the way the ties. train um okay so I'd say like ties don't. necessarily Spar hard at all I don't. know of a place that I've like I haven't. seen ties like full on Spar it's very.

like light-hearted and more like playful. and skill and things like that um a lot. more uh a lot more bag work um a lot. more attention to balance and. defense um and. then on the pads it's a lot less. combinations like it's not like it's not. it's not like that really that's why. it's very cringe to me when I come back.

to America and I see these guys who are. teaching mu Thai and it's like these. seven punch combinations just because. it's punching and kicking and you're. throwing in knees and elbows doesn't. make it Muay Thai you know what I mean. like it's not it's not the same Essence. in my opinion so how do they hold pads. over there like what the com for. instance like when I was when I was. training my trainer it's like. it's more of like he's drawing. out what he kind of wants to see from me. based off of my position and like how.

I'm standing and where I'm standing so. he'll he'll have his distance and he'll. kind of sometimes won't even really tell. me what to do he'll just kind of like. insinuate like like body kick boom and. then however I land then maybe he'll. hold the right hand and then boom. however I land after that maybe he'll. hold the hook and then from the hook and. then maybe he'll hold the leg kick but. it kind of depends on like where am I at. you know like what's my position he's. not like okay jab cross hook low kick.

it's more based off of your fighter how. does your fighter flow right you know. what I mean so like in that distance if. I'm if he's like telling if he just like. cuz my trainers didn't speak English at. all I had to kind of like learn to adapt. so he would just be like kind of like. doing this like okay slow down relax. calm so like okay relax and then he'll. quickly like that and then I have to. kick boom and he'll like two and Bo Bo. and then he'll like okay. relax punch boom elbow boom like it's.

just kind of calling out these reactions. not giving me this like eight punch. combo four punch combo okay in with no. it's just a lot more Instinct it's a lot. more like stay calm stay relaxed and. when you attack I don't want to see that. you're about to attack me I need it to. come quick and like and I need you to go. right back. yeah I need to go right back to a relax. position you know and so you feel like. this kind of pad holding is more. applicable for an actual fight like. developing skills I think so I mean like.

especially if you want to kick or punch. or do anything at like a full power cuz. I do notice that like like from the tie. pad work that's where you practice your. power that's where like the the the on. the bag and on the pads it's more power. it's less like boxing is more like Focus. mths mhm you don't really do power with. boxing on on mths but with like with. Muay Tha it's like this is my chance to.

be like how how effective is my left. kick at 100% you know and I'm like. trusting this guy to be able to to catch. it for. me so um I I prefer it I like I prefer. the the the true Essence in the true. martial art of of Muay Thai because it's. it's when you when you kind of. understand it and when you've kind of. learned it from you know like just. different traditions and like different. lineages it's like you. can you can pick up on things that. you're like okay now okay yeah this is.

this is I can [ __ ] ruin someone you. know like like if I if I like relax. right here and I'm standing just like an. arms length of this guy and I just want. to really blast a kick and be on balance. I could ruin this guy you know you also. were telling me that they changed the. way you were kicking yeah um so everyone. like everyone has their own way it's. like if you go to a Jiu-Jitsu school and. like an arm bar is an arm bar but people. have different ways of like setting it. up or more effective to to get it um the.

the biggest thing that kind of helped me. was for one. like a lot of people when they kick they. lean back to kind of counterbalance that. weight and my trainer always told me. like he always had me like drive like. drive my pressure forward I actually. wish that I was [ __ ] training with. you while I was here side no I was like. damn dud sick to [ __ ] to show some. stuff to Rogan but anyway uh he was. showing me like next time yeah yeah um I. got a whole gym here yeah I saw it it's.

probably way better now than like yeah. you just moved in here but um kind of. like this more like forward projection. so like all of my weight and plus the. kick moving forward versus standing. stationary lifting my and going backward. you know like there's like a no tilting. um. the Turning of the hips like kicking. with the shin and not the foot like so. there's a lot of little details that go. into like making these things happen you.

know and also the speed of the kick like. a lot a big problem that I see in MMA. for sure is that like man I can see. kicks coming from a mile away right. because there's just so much just to get. your leg up you should just be able to. [ __ ] whip it and it still be as. powerful and as effective yeah you were. saying something about the smoothness of. the they taught you how to relax more. when you're throwing kicks I have like. you have to relax like the. kicks the leg is the heaviest limb on.

the body you know and just like if you. want to knock someone out you don't want. to you don't want to tense up first you. got to be relaxed it's got to be swift. so it's kind of like in order to lift. your leg to throw it at a full speed and. like and to for it to be accurate you. got to be relaxed you have to and how. much of that is like when when you're. training how much of your training when. you're working on technique is kicking. the bag how much of is kicking pads how. much of it is kicking the. air okay so I kick the bag a lot um I.

just have a bag in my house um and. everything's usually like slow just. getting my body to move. and comfortable with lifting my leg and. it just be effortless um just the. technique yeah just the technique and. like the flow and like the feeling um. when you do it at home like how much. warm up do you do before you do anything. like that it kind of is my warmup so you. just do I do it lightly until my. intensity picks up and until I'm like. okay I'm [ __ ] tired right you know so.

I'll start off really slow um yeah I. posted like a video the other day it's. like of my routine like I just like I. put on this music like Thai Country oh. let me see it yeah it's uh yeah actually. if you pull that up you'll see like. that's kind of my daily um like my daily. routine. so I'd say a lot of my training like. probably six 0% is just like Shadow. Boxing light bag work working on balance. um.

yeah so just. nice what are you listening to oh put it. on that's like the. classic TI music yeah so trying not like. even here I'm trying not to lean my head. back and try to keep more of like a a. station like a straight up and down post. posture while throwing the kick it's. very hard but it's like as you practice. it it only makes the kicks a little bit. more effective so this is at your house. yeah this is just your bag uh.

130 and so you're just setting stuff up. touching it yeah just touch because like. I I I need to know that I can touch it. before I need to like before I want to. blast it and so that's how you warm up. you warm up just gently I just do that. until I'm I end up like [ __ ] hard on. the back you know I feel like okay I've. done this motion enough to where now I. can release at 120% I can just [ __ ] a. lot of stretching yeah I.

spend probably three to four hours a day. stretching wow yeah really yeah holy. [ __ ] it's like one of my hobbies I I. just I love it like if I'm not okay so. when I wake up in the morning. I'll say like sparring say I have. sparring at 11:30 I get to the gym by 9. and I'm stretching for 2 hours wow I use. Olympic rings I love stretching on. Olympic rings I'll put them like so I. hang them at like a nice height and I'll.

put my arms through and they're just. like kind of here and then I'm like. flexing down and it kind of helps. elongate my spine I'm practicing. depressing yeah decompressing I'll put. it like on the like under my elbow here. and I'll kind of like do like the Iron. Cross and just kind of I do a lot of. just different like unique type of. stretches and I do them every single day. and I just want to make sure that like. my body feels as free as possible I hate.

tightness I [ __ ] hate it my lower. back's so tight right now and I hate it. you know like that's just one of the the. the oh I got some [ __ ] I could show you. for that please yeah I some cool [ __ ]. here so yeah like I'd say a lot of a lot. of my time in a day is spent stretching. that's crazy three to four hours a day. three to four hours a day man that's. nuts like sometimes it's 2 hours and. then I'll go train and then later like. an hour before I go to bed you know um. but yeah a lot of my time a lot of my. time [ __ ] wife says like oh where's. that in the garage [ __ ] stretchy you.

know what I mean like well it kind of. makes sense though when you think about. how free you are when you're fighting. like everything is so fast fluid yes got. to be relaxed and you have to be loose. to do that yeah I've talked to guys who. aren't flexible like I was uh trying to. explain uh I was trying to show someone. some guard technique a guy who was. fighting in the I don't want to say his. name. and I was like so when you're in this. position here I was showing them how to. use a rubber guard I'm like so I'm I'm. in control here and he's like I can't. get my leg up right there I'm like what.

do you mean you can't get your leg up. right there sus he's like I just I don't. have any flexibility I'm like do you. stretch yeah he's like no I'm like you. don't stretch you're a world class. fighter and you don't stretch yeah I'm. an old comedian and I'm showing you that. I can do this this is crazy you should. be able to do this like this is not a. thing that's hard rubber guard yeah yeah. I mean sometimes like especially right. now it'd be really hard for me to do. rubber guard but um why okay so the. other day I was working out uh I do.

these like Saturday workouts I invite my. friends we do like a kind of boot camp. like circuit thing just something for me. to stay active and to invite my friends. to come you know enjoy a healthy. lifestyle um I have a friend who's um. older guy and he was doing amazing air. squats and I was like just ban her I was. like you call that a squat. anybody in their right mind would have. known like yeah this is a good [ __ ]. squat you know but for some reason I. don't know what what's going on that day. but he took it personally and he was.

like what you have the worst [ __ ]. squats in here you [ __ ] and just like. blew up on me and I was like whoa dude. didn't know we were going that route but. since you want to [ __ ] you know what. I mean since you want to test the waters. and then I just started [ __ ] air. squatting like a maniac and bust out. like 80 air squats like my [ __ ]. almost touched the ground you know I'm. just like going full speed um and then. like I just I was kind of like rubbed. the wrong way so I just went hard and I. wasn't really thinking about posture. technique or anything I kind of tweaked.

my back a little bit and then that. wasn't the end of the workout we still. had to go and burn a th000 calories on. the on the assault bike oh no so then I. hop on the bike and full blast you know. like 40 mes hour just and it kept. hurting and I was like I'm not going to. show these guys that I'm hurt I'm going. to just I'm a dog you like get back on. and by the end of the work out like I. mean for the past like three days it's. been real hard real hard so my lower. back right now and then the day after. then I went and I have to swing the golf. club like at least four times four days.

a week five days Jamie has one of those. things out here yeah simulator told seen. that thing yeah Jamie's a nut he's out. there all the time whacking balls yeah. um that would that would definitely. inhibit your rubber guard but normally. you could probably do it right yeah yeah. yeah normally you should be able to do. that it's like if you're on your back. it's it's a regardless of what people. think that's a it's a very effective. technique and I've put people in and I'm. like get out here let me hold you in. there try to get out not on the topic of. rubber guard but after we're done with.

this I'm going to show you this sick. sweep thing that I'm working on oh okay. it's like it's really cool I'm going to. show it to you and then when you see me. do it in a fight you're like holy [ __ ]. oh all right yeah it's unseen unheard of. um and it's a mixture of like what I've. learned like some Muay Thai Concepts and. like uh and like yeah Muay Thai Concepts. and like methods mix with what I've been. learning in my Jiu-Jitsu cuz I'm. training with a guy who's a black belat. under Damian Maya um and so a lot of the. Jiu-Jitsu stuff that I'm working from.

like learning from him is amazingly. effective especially for my mentality. and like my body style so like in my off. time and in my stretching and just my. artistic mind I was like how do I blend. these two together wow got it [ __ ] oh. wow so you got an idea it's sick nice. it's sick how much time do you spend. boxing. I don't box a lot yeah I'd say like my. pad work um like my MMA pad work is a. lot of hands not necessarily like boxing.

boxing just kind of like MMA boxing but. um I mean I would love to do more boxing. I just noticed that when I focus on. boxing like I have in the past um I just. get a little bit more flat footed you. know and because of my nature and my. spirit I'm just willing to stand and. bang like and just right right right you. know and I'm like waiting on counters. and I'm waiting to roll and I'm like I'm. going to just wait right here and I'm. going to slip and react and counter but.

um so it it sometimes can put me in a. little bit of a bad position but if I. find the right boxing trainer that kind. of understands MMA and understands my. style I could see it being effective but. I haven't found that yet so you just put. it all together yeah that's your thing. mhm well listen man um I'm bummed out. that you're going through this [ __ ]. but um I'm really excited to see you. back in there man I really really am. especially after the an well I've been a. fan for a long time but the Anthony. Smith fight was like it shows me that. you are you're right there you're right.

there I hope you know Jeff sorted out. everybody in NADA State athletic. commission sort it out and uh hopefully. you can call the next one too right come. back that'd be amazing yeah I hope so I. really do I really do uh it's always. great talking you brother and tell. everybody your Instagram uh social media. where where people can find you find me. me uh on Instagram khil rry just my. first and last name uh that's all I got. right now working on a website oh really. yeah I want to um I want to work on a.

website and uh just get a little bit. more give some more content uh you know. interact with like fans and stuff in a. whole different way um possibly you know. start to provide more videos and just. some more interaction so um all that's. process but for now just hit me up on. Instagram beauti that's about it all. right let's go to the gym I'm show you. CH it all right bye everybody later. [Music]. [Applause].

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