JRE MMA Show #153 with Joe Pyfer

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. day what's up Joe what's up Joe so we. should say right away off the bat cuz. people don't know you really did break. Francis and gano's punch record yeah so. I don't know what the confusion is you. know I I I didn't want to a lot of. people are they doubt it just cuz he's. so big.

so I'm going to post it uh well we just. sent it to Jamie we sent one where you. broke you went to. 170 yeah 170 so you got Eddie. Hall what the world Rec I've got the he. got 113 and Francis had gotten 129 we're. trying to break's record right now I had. already hit four. times. woo one.

now the only thing that so this is the. thing that people don't understand. though is it it's the same machine I. think everybody thought it was like one. of those punching bags that are down at. the the boardwalk right and uh you know. it it's aggravating because I pride. myself in my power I I want to hurt you. you know what I mean like that's my. intention I'm trying to I mean we all. throw with power right but I feel like I. have a little different intention. sometimes so you know I've always prided. myself and hitting hard I've always felt. like I hit harder than everybody um now.

sure I'm sure francis's punch feels. different than mine but I got speed I. got power and I walk at like 220 when. I'm out of Camp so I'm not a small guy. you know I mean I'm 6'2 220 when I'm. hitting that and even then probably. there I was probably late because I was. injured so I was probably about 212 214. when I hit that and just to put it up. I'm going to post it whenever uh I get. back home and I'm going to post a video. and I'm going to post the picture also. of me hitting higher than that at 181 I.

only have the picture but too Allen's. coach was there I think someone has. kicked it up to like 187 I think that's. the newest high kick which is crazy kick. yeah yeah that your your punch is that. close to a kick yeah that's pretty nuts. now get it it's a standstill object. right I can smash that thing my man but. I've been uh I was trying to see who did. it here's Alo and Wonder Boy kick it.

there's someone just did 18 189 I don't. know who that is Loren Lin that's Loren. Lin yeah I think he's got the record now. Loren who used to fight in the UFC now I. guess he's with the pfl now right. because I thought he was Bellator oh. yeah Bellator is the pfl now yeah but. Loren got 189 oh Jesus he got 235 Loren. can [ __ ] kick hard that's a super. underrated dude I always go to his fight. with Neil Magny go watch that fight. Jesus I would love to see Diego strike.

oh yeah he's another one yeah Jose. there's probably a quite a few guys that. can kick like that but Loren's like if. you watch him that technique is just. perfect he's perfect the way he switches. his hips the way he turns his body into. it it's just maximizing it yeah I mean. it's really I mean some people it's. weird you know for me because a lot of. people think I have natural power and I. get annoyed with it because I've I've. never had anything natural in my life.

you know everything was difficult. learning it learning Jiu-Jitsu learning. how to box you know everything was hard. for me to learn so I have a bit of chip. on my shoulder when people are like. trying to discredit it with natural. power I don't know there is a thing. though where there's a there's like you. could unlock horsepower in a human being. but you only have so much when it comes. to power there's certain people and I. think you've all we've all seen them. they just don't hit hard for whatever. reason and they look big they can look. strong and then there's certain guys.

that for whatever reason they [ __ ]. hit crazy hard and they're not that big. and a lot of it is efficiency and. fluidity and the technique and the. leverage and that's all learned right. but there's like a certain thing to like. bone structure and just natural power my. bones got to be trash Joe cuz i' [ __ ]. having two surgeries and I think the. amount of power that you generate I mean. it's probably a lot of it too a corny.

thing to say but I was told that I. almost generate too much force for my. bone density to handle um I don't know. how true that is I don't know if they. were just strok in my ego well makes. sense that's why your hands break when. When people's hands break that's why. they break CU you're literally. generating too much force for your bone. structure yeah dude when you fought Rak. alhassan you are on there's like there's. a thing that happens with Fighters where. you see them you see anxiety you see.

first fight you see nerves you see. Jitters you see skills but it's hard to. like see the full range of them and then. they start getting comfortable and when. they start getting comfortable like uh. the Mir shart fight you just stomped him. but the razak alhassan fight like dude. you were on another level like that's. like when when people talk about a guy. in the gym like dude you got to see this. [ __ ] in the gym and then seeing. that manifest itself inside the octagon.

to me that's one of my favorite things. to see I love watching guys show their. potential you know and in that fight. Rach alhassan is a beast yeah he's a dog. he's a dangerous dude and you just put. on a [ __ ] show in that fight you. looked like you were on a completely. different level like you had gone up. several rungs from where you were before. you you know what's crazy about it. though the the whole process of what's. gotten me to that point has been nothing. shy of just man if I'm mentally happy.

I'm going to destroy everybody but I. often struggle mentally you know like I. bro I didn't turn it on my coaches were. all scared in the back um just because. they know me so well I'm an emotional. dude I wear my heart on my sleeve like I. say how I feel um you don't really have. to read the room you can read my face. you know what I mean you understand. where I'm at and I'm not I'm not shy to. say where I'm at so that whole week was. off uh Sean wasn't in the corner he got. sick I had some issues with a with a. best friend and I've known for 12 13.

years he didn't get to come out and and. just everything was like off I I had uh. I had merca on my bicep on my forearm. two weeks before oh [ __ ] I was on. antibiotics before that I got in uh I. split my toes open where they separated. so the Bon so I like I could barely like. it got all swollen bro I've never had an. easy camp and I was I was having. nightmares for the first time of getting. knocked the [ __ ] out like all week. during my weight cut during training I. had these crazy nerves I would get cold. cold sweats like I thought something was.

wrong and uh I never had that before you. know and I was contemplating like man. I'm not going to rush my career maybe. this isn't the right. move but uh was it the Step Up in. competition no no so this is crazy it's. going to come on well it's not crazy but. it comes off as really arrogant like. Abdul was not a step up in competition. for me he was a step up as far as you. know power you know and people that I. fought uh as far as you know people that. have the ability to knock you out. consequences yeah yeah there.

consequences for small error and uh but. I knew skill for skill dude's not on my. level I knew Gerald mer mhart mirart. however you say it whenever I bro I mean. that dude to me without being. disrespectful is I don't know how he's. been in the UFC um the guy I first. fought you know he's not in the UFC. anymore but he had eight Knockouts I'm. not I've been doing this for 23 years I. started at four and a half years old um. I don't want people to think that I'm. cocky or arrogant but I am I am cocky. I'm confident you know don't you think.

you kind of have to be yeah you do have. to [ __ ] Gage fighter it's it's your. protection barrier too from from people. to just openly try to cut you down. because everybody like like hitting that. punching machine everybody immediately. discredits says that Dana White just. wants to get after Francis and ganu. that's why I didn't release the video I. told you at the Austin fight I was. pissed off it didn't get posted you know. what I mean well it's posted now yeah so. uh it's posted now and you know it's on. a big platform but yeah man I mean Abdul. was just somebody you had to be careful. with but I didn't think he boxed better.

than me and I think DC even says it as a. walking into the cage and uh his best. shot was to knock me out and if he. couldn't knock me out he wasn't winning. that fight so well it's also very. evident like you're one of those guys. that's at the top of the 185 pound. division in terms of like physical. stature you don't get much bigger at 185. it's like you and guys like paja which P. it doesn't even make sense yeah like I. was always like how how the [ __ ] are you. 185 man even when I look at yeah I mean. when I look at him like I've SE it's so.

weird we've seen each other so many. times there's no head nod there's no. respect there's no like even him like. man I think a lot of guys are overrated. in this [ __ ] sport you think that. guy's overrated I mean look I don't. think his I think I think getting hit by. him isn't overrated right but he's very. stiff and he's got that off switch he's. got that off. switch Yeah Yeah at 85 I don't know. about 205 I think that is a big part of. the weight cut I think weight cut is.

borderline dangerous like I think that a. weight cut to 85 could kill you yeah. yeah I think he's just so tough that he. doesn't but I think there's there's a. point of diminishing returns and. certainly with your chin and when Izzy. cracked him obviously Izzy hit him. perfect it was pinpoint and then rocked. him with the second shot but the way he. went out I was like it's gone yeah it's. almost like uh you know I'm not going to. say any names but you know there there's. a guy that just recent L lost who I like.

and it's like man like when you've had. that off button shut off to the point. where you're Frozen it's not like you. got TKO it's off yes uh there's a thing. that happens to guys when they've taken. too many shots you can see it yeah I've. never I've never been laid out um last. time I was ever dropped I was 18 years. old I got dropped by a guy that used to. be in the UFC for a brief moment uh it. was Tim Williams he fought your boy Eric. Anders who I like he's cool but uh but. yeah no I've never been I've never had. the lights like shut off or anything so. thankful for that but uh I pride myself.

in my defense too you know what I mean I. don't it's critical I mean a strong. defensive base is so important when when. you know how to move well I was just. watching this documentary that the UFC. put on uh about Anderson Silva and it's. not that I forgot how good Anderson. Silva was smooth super smooth super. fluent everything man when he was in his. prime his [ __ ] defense too was so. perfect he was so hard to hit clean his. Range man you know when you're taller.

these guys underestimate range and and. you know everybody wants to brawl but. people don't understand range you know. you should be able to slide back and it. just grazes your beard you know like so. uh range is everything and also the. mechanical advantage of that long frame. when Anderson would throw that torque on. guys you know when he was in his prime. like he watched like the Rich Franklin. fights and the Chris leben fight and. like that [ __ ] dude was special man. but defense let me ask you because I'm a. huge fan of the old school days more so.

than the the new school um I just think. it was more raw and just like there like. I liked when everybody was on roids you. know everybody was on roids but that's. exactly the stipulation right you know. we're so hard on the athletes of today. they pop for something that's not even a. performance performance enhancing level. yeah but these guys had their reign and. were never discredited but we know they. were all on [ __ ] right well I always. talk about trt vtor you know T I think. trt vtor the VOR [ __ ] up Luke rockold.

and Michael Bisping that dude I put him. up against anybody ever he he was. [ __ ] terrifying but he was also like. silverback gorilla levels of. testosterone he was like off the charts. when they tested him one of the reasons. why they stopped trt is because they. tested vtor one time and he was so far. off the charts they were like what the. [ __ ] are you doing and he had said that. you know he was going to be in America. for like a week and so the doctor just. gave him a big dose to like last for the.

week I just think he just next to he. looks oh man almost the same well yo. Romero a huge fan yo Romero yo Romero is. the freak of all freaks and I've said. this many times before on this podcast. but he is the single most impressive. athlete I have ever seen in all my years. of watching fights how old is he 44 now. he's at least 44 he might be 45 46 um. man yeah juice juice VOR was was the. bond though yel didn't even need juice. man he was a part of the the Cuban. Athletic program and there's something.

about that dude whether it's genetics or. who knows what it is but I've told this. before so I apologize for anybody's. heard this the UFC had brought him to a. doctor after one of his fights I think. it was one of his fights in Australia. and the doctor said to the UFC where did. you get this guy and he go and and they. were like uh he's one of our fighs he. goes I've never seen anything like him. he goes yeah he's pretty amazing right. he goes no you don't understand I've. never seen a human being like him the in. his eyes are three times larger than.

normal they said that his his orbital. bone when it fractured by the time they. got him to the doctor like a couple days. later it already started healing like. this guy's a [ __ ] wolver was eating. [ __ ] bark or something for growing up. I mean he was something super special. that guy I have to say I I I he was he. was someone that I loved watching I. loved that paoc Costa and Y Romero fight. and whatnot I was always sad I never got. to see him win belt before he uh left he.

in the UFC like he started in the UFC I. believe in his very late 30s yeah like. 37 yeah something crazy like that like. when he knocked out leoa Macha I think. he like 38 39 he was already at the. range where most guys are looking to. hang it up but look at a guy like that. right I mean I don't think he's as that. technical I don't think he's uh was. wrestling very technically wrestling. 100% you know but he never used it uh as. like a complete Miss martial artist he. always seemed to kind of just be like.

the kickboxing guy wanted to keep it on. the feet um every which is crazy when. you think about his wrestling background. but that's just an energy thing like the. amount of energy that it takes to. wrestle to take guys down a lot. especially when they're slippery. especially when he's not a submission. guy I I don't know if he has any. submissions in his his record he just. smashes guys when he gets him on the. ground but his wrestling was so Elite. but yet you rarely saw it but like when. he knocked out Chris Weidman with that. flying knee. like that [ __ ] dude could explode on.

you like no other man yeah it's that. he's yeah I mean that's a guy that's. natural though right you want to say as. a natural athlete like that's I think. maybe there was something going on in. Cuba I think they were doing some look. look at Kellin we always talk about. Kellin but Kellin for the Soviet Union. they called him the experiment that's. literally what they called him he was so. freakish and his parents were like. normal size like they were small folks. and he would like be walking with his.

parents like with his hands on their. shoulders he was a giant just an immense. human being and yeah here here's a bowl. of cereal and here's some [ __ ]. testosterone it was no bowy they gave. him a [ __ ] Caribou liver for. breakfast that guy was he was a freak of. all freaks but I think there's something. to that Soviet training program and you. know when you look at other communist. countries like particularly Cuba there's. no doubt about it they did whatever they. could to make their athletes the best. they could and it just stands to realize. to a certain extent I mean I think if. you want to you want to have that Peak.

Performance you want to have that Peak. human being from whatever you're trying. to you know put them in I mean you you. can't naturally it's hard like it's very. hard it's the hard you get lucky you can. get lucky and get a Francis andana with. like the best genetics ever or you can. just start manipulating someone when. they're very young if you get a young. kid and you start giving them growth. hormone and igf1 and all peptides and. stuff when they're really little like. you can get it depends on their diet. right I mean like most of everything we. is processed and trash that too I'm sure.

they optimal nutrition I'm sure that. they I'm sure with that kind of a. program like a communist program with. where. everything is on the line like if you. are a athlete for uh a totalitarian. dictatorship like whether it's Cuba or. Russia or China whatever it is they will. do whatever they can to make their. athletes the best like the idea of. cheating we saw it in the Sochi Olympics.

with that documentary Icarus have you. seen that documentary it's a great. documentary by Brian Fogle about um I've. talked about this recently I apologize. to people who listened but the uh Brian. Fogle what he was going to do is he he. did a a bike race and he did a bike race. natural and he's a very good athlete. endurance athlete so he did this bike. race natural and then he went to this. guy who is the head of the Soviet. anti-doping program and he said uh this. is what I want to do I want to do it. natural one year and then the next year.

I want you to just juice me up to the. tits and we're going to do a documentary. and see how I do juiced versus natural. in the process of filming all this it uh. it got released that the SOI Olympics. were rigged and so what Russia was doing. was they put a hole in the wall where. the urine samples were and they were. swapping urine samples so they're taking. the dirty urine samples from their. because it was in Russia so they're. taking the dirty urine samples from. their athletes and swapping it out for.

clean urine samples but they got caught. because they found these micro scratches. on these jars that were supposedly. impossible to open and that these like. impenetrable jars they stored the urine. in to make it secure but then they did. an analysis in the jar and they said. like somebody's been [ __ ] with these. jars and so then they analyzed the urine. and then the whole house of cards came. tumbling down while this guy was doing. this documentary and this guy what was. his name Gregory renko is that his name. I think renov renov that gentleman who.

was the head of the Soviet doping. program got in the witness protection. program and then spilled the beans in. the Soviet Union he's hiding in America. now I mean they arrested his family they. took away his family's money like they. they [ __ ] his whole family up like. it's the whole the story is crazy but he. detailed everything that they do as far. as their doping program and they doped. everybody they doped everybody except. figure skaters damn that's the dude uh. Gregory not what I was Imaging or.

picturing in my head he's hilarious he's. actually funny but it's it's an amazing. documentary I can't recommend Icarus. enough but it just shows how far these. countries are willing to go in order to. gain you know National superiority by. having their athletes gold medal more. than anybody power it's the most. addicting thing right yeah and it's also. it's you know it's national pride. there's a lot involv and they're all. assuming that everybody else is doing. this too because everybody on some [ __ ].

yeah like everybody's on some [ __ ] there. for sure if they can get away with it. they cheat there's so much especially. when it comes to things like the. Olympics never stop exploring trying to. find the easier route you know exactly. um it's funny because a lot of people uh. have said [ __ ] to me and I'm like listen. when I came back after I broke my arm I. was big before I broke my arm and then. but I was big in the wrong way I was big. in like a weightlifting way when did you. break your arm.

2020 maybe and how' you do it Dustin stz. F I got Matt returned in a [ __ ]. Contender series fight dislocated and. broke backwards and that's your right. arm my right arm so I had one surgery. that's this scar uh 6 months later I. joined my team Marquez where Sean's at. uh and and all the Philly guys and then. I had to six months again had to get. another surgery and another major. surgery same injury just reinjured it so. uh no so I still had a torn forearm and. I still I had a whole bunch of Bon gross. behind so I broke the radial head in.

half uh which is what you rotate so I. can rotate my hand right like this on my. good arm but I can't go any further than. this because it's pinned uh in there. till this day yeah oh wow um and that's. as straight as my arm goes so oh wow. yeah so [ __ ] don't understand. that this was I I was given a 30% chance. of being able to fight you know if I got. the second surgery uh 30% 30% U because. of the nerve damage and not like having. full functionality because there's a lot. of nerves in there um especially where I. got surgery and how much damage and. inflammation and whatnot was in there um.

so they had to cut the capsule and. whatnot so man when I tell you like I'm. going to be hurting when I'm older I'm. going to be hurting I have pain every. day and whatnot but uh but yeah I mean I. broke my arm and some [ __ ] fluke. accident um you know I did get Matt. returned I sh have let go the head I was. going to go for a guillotine and then he. lifted me I didn't expect it right. posted out boom been that way a thousand. times in practice never been hurt and uh. yeah ate me up man ate me up you know. they closed the ambulance doors you know.

you don't get to say [ __ ] to Dana White. and all you get is a bunch of nerds that. text you and say hey man at least you. got a couple million views you're famous. and you know I lost sponsorships I was. depressed suicidal all that [ __ ] and 20. years of my life I think at that point. um so you were really concerned that. that was the end yeah I mean look Joe I. started as a four and a half years old. you know I don't I don't know how much. you know um but you know I started this. at 4 and a half years old and I haven't. seen another path and this was my a and. there was no B so if a didn't work that.

was it so at 4 and a half you knew you. wanted to fight no 8 years old I knew I. wanted to fight four and a half I. started Jiu-Jitsu five years old I did. my first competition in Naga um and uh. yeah I mean eight years old is I started. developing like a little bit of a. confidence I was so run down and abused. that it that was where my my confidence. started coming from so I never had a. dream of the belt and I could say all. these years I've never had a dream of. holding a belt but I always had a dream. of people chanting my name when I was. walking out to a soldout crowd so that.

was always my dream and I always I've. always wanted that and uh yeah I mean I. was I wasn't a kid that hung out with. kids you know I was homeschooled and um. yeah there's a lot there's a lot of. detail to uncover in there but uh but. yeah I mean I've known I wanted to do. this all my life and when I tell you. there was no plan B bro there was no. plan B so when did you have your first. MMA fight how old were you I was uh I. think 20 years old 20 years old TW yeah. 20 years old uh actually no that's not. true uh yeah it is true 20 years old I.

think it was. 2017 was my first fight um or 2016 one. of those years and amateur or amateur so. PA I'm PA boy at the time um you have to. have five amateurs before you could go. pro oh really is that the the rule. interesting that was the rule when I was. fighting um so you had to have still the. rule uh I'm not sure I think it is um. you definitely have to have amateur. experience to be considered to get your. pro license what if you're like an. amateur wrestler or something like that. does that. I don't think so I I think it's just.

that I think it's just the way that the. PA commission was with Greg Ser back. then that's not a bad idea so I went. four in one as an amateur um and I felt. so held back with the the [ __ ] Shing. guards not being able to punch somebody. in the face oh that's with the amateurs. you can't punch the face can't punch in. the. face n so I couldn't wait to turn prone. man I I I felt so held back and my kind. of training like I trained at Fight. Factory which was a gym that had Eddie. Alvarez when he was 19 years old I met. Eddie before he even had a first fight. oh wow you know so I've when I say I.

know a lot of these guys will say oh I. know these people I'm I'm the OG in the. gym as the young guy because I've been. around for so long so that's why when. these these [ __ ] clickbait turds come. out and they say oh you know he's. fighting a guy with a lot of experience. and Gerald mirart he's got the most. submission like [ __ ] you're not. doing anything that I have never seen. now there's a difference between. watching on the TV and saying uh he. doesn't do anything special and you get. in there you feel somebody's presence. you feel that energy you feel their.

intention you know so I knew that. [ __ ] wasn't going to bang with. me I knew Abdul wasn't going to bang. with me that's why as soon as I cracked. him as soon as I let him feel me like. yeah [ __ ] like go ahead and uh. you know he didn't get that he didn't. get to get going you know I checked him. immediately like you're a Powerhouse. you're an alpha well so am I come take. it you know so I fight with uh a heavy. heart in there you I mean you're trying. to take my living from me I'm still a. poor kid that's my mentality you know. what I mean I'm nothing and I'm trying. to be something you know what I mean so.

you better be ready to kill me. [ __ ] like that's how same thing. with this guy Jack man like nice guy you. better be ready to die in there or I'm. I'm coming for you like I don't want no. decisions you talk about your abuse like. what what exactly was the views I don't. want to give the short version right you. know this is a moment right now that I. get to recognize that I'm in front of. somebody who has you've heard so many. stories so many crazy things and you. know my story is definitely not up there. with the crazy things right but my story. I'm unique I'm one of one so my story is.

um you know I started out uh the abuse. started when I was a year old um my. parents both blame each other you know. child services in and out of our our. lives I'm one of five kids I got four. sisters two older two younger and uh. yeah I started getting beat as a as a. one-year-old um from what I was told. it's because I [ __ ] myself right it's. what kids infants do and uh so that's. when it started and um why you got beat. for going to the bathroom [ __ ] my diaper. yeah uh the story is I [ __ ] my diaper.

reached in my diaper wiped on the walls. and then I got beat for it um neither. parent owns up to it but both parents. have blamed each other um just because. of the physical physical abuse on my. father's side 100% has to be him um my. mom was not physically aggressive by. Nature you know what I mean she she. definitely [ __ ] my ass you know uh a good. amount but it was never with the mean. intentions uh you know comparable to my. father it was more verbal on her end but.

uh but yeah so it started then and bro. since the time I've had memory I. remember getting my head stomped getting. beat getting screamed at slapped like. humiliated just run down told you were. never going to be anything and uh you. know my sister's received unfortunately. received the uh the same. treatment and uh yeah so I mean abuse. has been something and toxic and I mean. toxic like when I want to say like. breaking somebody down I didn't have an. ounce of self-esteem I was my dad's. puppet didn't no no life being. homeschooled you do school right that is.

he still around still living yeah still. living um I'm not sure where I've parted. ways with him and uh I don't want to. talk to him next time I see him is. probably you know yeah when it's done. and uh I don't hate him you know what I. mean I don't hate him but uh I despise. him as a human being as far as you know. what he's given back to the world and. and the kind of person that he's. accepted to be um but yeah I mean yeah. he's still around I just don't know. where and I don't really care where so.

uh I know my mom still lives at the. house that I grew up in and it's so hard. to believe that some people are capable. of becoming what they become you know. and to do that to their child you know. what's [ __ ] up about it the most is. that it was almost better for me to have. never known him than to know him and see. how it went and lose him you know what I. mean because I love that man as a child. that was my idol no nobody could beat. him in the gym like that was that's what. I thought and I never thought he was a.

liar you know and then right around 15. years old and I definitely think I was. behind you know what I mean. socially um just because of being. homeschooled so my dad wind up getting. Social Security disability and he was a. stay-at-home dad you know I mean. collecting SSD and [ __ ] doing nothing. but beating his kids and screaming and. sitting basically just being you know a. child abuser to to all of us you know. and and. never once has he ever taken. accountability for the wrongs that he's.

done um and if he's tried to finagle it. it's been to be like hey you were a bad. kid it's like yo I want to know I want. to know how I was a bad kid I didn't. steal sure I lied as a kid out of fear. because I was afraid to get my head. stomped or get beat like a man you know. I didn't get I didn't get a traditional. ass whooping Jael like neither of my. sisters either they got picked up by. their necks picked up by their hair. strangled um you know and uh. there there's many there's many stories.

you know and as you know we have a. documentary right and um I refrained. from putting the details of specific. stories because the the documentary is. not about wo is me poor me it's about he. I never through all of this gave up on. the dream to get to the UFC even when I. broke my arm and I thought I was doing I. did everything right I didn't go out and. party I didn't go out and do drugs I've. never I've never smoked weed I've never. done and I'm not saying weed's a drug. but I've never smoked weed I've never.

smoked a cigarette I've never T popped a. pill I've never done anything I didn't. go out to strip clubs I didn't go out. and bring girls home from the bar that's. never been me. so yeah I mean you were just always. focused I I was obsessed with this I was. obsessed with this and I was obsessed. with this because I knew if I couldn't. do this I would have checked out and. that's that's what made me you know. that's what made me like keep going. [ __ ] keep going keep going keep. going and I just kept beating down the. door of people like my coach that you.

know has come with me I've known that. man since I was 10 years old you know. and he's seen me where in the gym and. nothing's changed he could tell you that. from you know the only thing that's. changed is my maturity the way I look at. life perspective but uh yeah man I mean. it was a it was a rough background and. it only got worse as I got older is a. horrible thing to hear you know as a. parent it's terrifying to think that a. parent another parent could do that to. their child but we all know it's true. and we all know that it can do one of.

two things to someone it could just ruin. your life or it can give you this. Unstoppable Fuel and that's what it. seems to have done with you I would. never wish that on anybody but I often. see people like you that are so [ __ ]. driven and so angry in there and so. effective because of that like so. dangerous because of that I always I. often wonder like is it even possible to. make a guy like you without that I don't. think so I look at like Mike Tyson same. thing I don't think so and but I think.

that's where I have my appreciation for. him you know I'll never discredit him I. would not be in the sport if it wasn't. for him he was the one that went to the. gym he's the one that introduced me and. I will give respect where it's due right. and that's the respect was he a fighter. uh he so he grew up in Kensington. Philadelphia I don't know how well you. know Philadelphia [ __ ] hole um bad. parents Mom apparently was you know. borderline I don't know if she was a. prostitute or whatever but he was. homeless from he was past home to home. he was always passed back and forth to. his parents so he lived a much rougher.

life than me um and uh you know he got. jumped all the time um back then it was. you know very segregated type you know. you don't come into this part of Philly. and you don't cross this part of Philly. and so he would get jumped all the time. I think he was like a a timid like. skinny nerdy. malnutritioned uh child growing up so I. know his dad my grand my grandpa um who. I've met a handful of times uh was in. the Vietnam War but then when he came. back apparently my dad's story is that. he used to sell drugs all the time and.

was always high and like like that's. that's the story he painted to us so in. my eyes like we never knew him really. other than a handful of times we met him. because they were bad people and he. despised them and he he always held like. the craziest anger towards his family. like they all blackballed him he was the. black sheep so yeah I mean he grew up. rough too but uh yeah I. mean he um he boxed apparently for long. time you know he used to tell everybody. he was 115 and four you can't [ __ ].

find the guy's records anywhere 100%. [ __ ] dude's a [ __ ] Storyteller. but um he could box you know what I mean. even if he didn't fight he could box he. would do well against guys that were pro. boxers or F guys that were in the gym my. dad was a a tough dude he was good um. but uh you know definitely always lied. for his convenience for his story and uh. yeah as he was learning Jiu-Jitsu with a. guy named Steve heg who wind up owning. Fight Factory who taught me Jiu-Jitsu um. alongside with my dad but that's how I.

got into it so I owe him a thanks for. the tools that he gave me for the house. I have gone to. build that's how I see it you know what. I mean I don't think he ever intended to. give me these tools and me go and. [ __ ] build a house with it and I. think he despises me for it I mean he's. one of the guys when I broke byarm sends. a message face down ass up just how you. like it you'll never I told yeah bro he. sent a lot of [ __ ] man he has sent a lot. of [ __ ] and don't get me wrong I've said. a lot of [ __ ] back like we've we've. argued you know what I mean he brings. that special rage where I would I would. like lose my life or his life over it.

you know what I mean like I have to. separate myself from him um Jesus Christ. so yeah I mean but yeah just there's no. holds bar when it comes to that guy the. way he manipulates the way he lies the. way he has basically hurt every single. person he has he has no true he has no. longl lasting friendships in his life. there's a reason for that you know. that's horrible yeah so not a good human. being it's not not good but again I mean. I hate to say it but in your line of. work it's like a superpower it is a.

superpower you know what I mean I got I. got that dark devil with me when I need. him and uh I don't mind it you know what. I mean I can be a sweetheart I could be. a good person I'm a giving person I give. a lot back in the dark to my to my. teammates you know one of the kids is. Jose SoDo who just by the way got. surgery today hope you're doing well um. I think he's gonna like he's got one eye. like Vis like visibility and he's one of. the toughest guys I've ever SE SP and. he's an. amateur and how is it I want to ask you.

about this like you know sh bullet has. one eye that's why I'm saying it because. I'm telling you right now this kid would. whoop that dude how is sh bullet able to. fight I mean how do you pass athletic. commission standards so I I don't know. so I think that from what I've heard dep. it's I think it depends on the. commission and where you're fighting um. in PA I know he has to have I think and. I may be wrong so somebody don't roast. me for it but I think you have to have I. think it's called a 22 2200 you have to. it's like has to be some type of.

visibility so you have to be able to see. objects or yeah an objects shapes. something you have to be able to at. least identify something out of that eye. and uh yeah I mean I think that is the. craziest way to fight when you already. have lost one eye bro he's bigger than. me the kid I'm talking about is bigger. than me he's bigger he's bigger he's. like 225 right now and he's in shape ABS. cut I'm telling you I I can't wait for. this kid's future um but uh but I but I. train with a but my point is is like I. give back to a lot of I try to give back.

to a lot of my teammates um because I. didn't I didn't let the things that hard. and mean made me upset become a piece of. [ __ ] I don't think I'm a piece of [ __ ] I. think I'm a good person you know I don't. think I'm the best person I'm not the. nicest guy um by a long shot right but I. I think it's this world is about what. you get you give back you know how you. can if you're not giving back in some. way with success that you have then I. think you're a piece of [ __ ] I don't. care if you're a billionaire you know if. if you're not giving back and you're not.

trying to help the younger generation. that's already so [ __ ] up especially. the people around you especially your. tribe yeah I mean I couldn't agree more. um the the the one eye thing man just it. just still really freaks me out like. shout out to Michael bisbing one of the. [ __ ] toughest dudes to ever do it in. the dark he scammed systems he scammed. the athletic commissions for 10 fights. for 10 fights that dude fought with one. eye then look at look at the part of it. right like if he goes out there and he's. getting smoked and he's not competitive.

like sure pull his card and say hey you. can't do this but then you're going to. tell somebody they can't they can't do. what they've trained their whole life. for because of something like that like. that's not fair too you know what I mean. like right well you look at Char bullet. I mean obviously I mean depth perception. is the first thing that goes when you. lose one eye it's it helps but sh bullet. is like one of the most accurate and. precision Strikers I mean he's he's got. some flaws in his game this takedown. defense is terrible yeah he's got a like. learn how to wrestle that man did not. know how to get off his back which is. crazy he's from dagistan from a guy.

that's not a wrestler right yeah it's a. problem it's a problem but also him on. his the Feet's a [ __ ] problem oh man. guy that kicks that much I don't want to. fight that guy that dude's annoying I I. it's not even it's like I hate that kind. of style that [ __ ] would like Jack style. irritates the [ __ ] out of me Jack de. melan no Jack uh Herman dude's annoying. as [ __ ] I hate his style [ __ ] bounces. around and like he's just an awkward. weird like weird [ __ ] um sh bullet's not.

weird but you know he's so he's so fast. and kicks and man I want to bang not. kick Hermanson and you is when when is. that uh February 10th nice yeah so like. 25 days or some [ __ ] like that but not. too far out I'm count that's a very good. fight for you it's a very good fight for. me I think uh I think a lot of people. will try to pull this experience. [ __ ] again and uh he's definitely my. toughest fight on paper and I think he. will be my toughest test but uh one. thing for sure he better not let me get. that one cuz I got that one so um he's a.

dog he's tough but I think we know what. his style is if you look at Jack it's. like you got to get the takedown brother. because if you stand and bang with me. I'm gonna put you down yeah you know. what I mean I'm not I'm not playing for. decisions and uh you know [ __ ] it might. come back to bite me right it might say. it all confident I might lose might. happen but I just don't think that. that's I don't think that's the next. chapter for me and uh yeah there it is. yeah so a fight. ug [ __ ] on TV man n you look. great that's nonsense the the [ __ ].

Apex is the greatest place ever to see I. like it everybody's complaining that I. keep fighting there but I like it man I. I like hearing my shots I like hearing. that I want to hear it and I want to I. want to I want to hear him grunt when I. hit him I want to hear him wince like I. want to see it like I don't have any. outside noise blocking that well you can. hear your coach you can hear your corner. you hear everything it's the to me the. the like when we were doing the uh covid. fights when when we were doing a lot of. the fights from the Apex Center. including like World title fights like.

Francis andana when he beat Stipe there. was no crowd which was so crazy but for. me as a commentator and as an audience. member I was like God how lucky am I. that I'm here for this that this is like. you know the whole world's [ __ ] shut. down and I'm I get to be cagide for this. with nobody else here it was a fortunate. time man it was it was a fortunate time. to I think like be in your position like. you're saying right you know be able to. be there you've been around for so long. though man like you earned that right I. mean and you're you're a part of the UFC.

in a big big way you're not just a. commentator you know I mean so you being. a part of that is also historic too you. know but being able to see it with a guy. like that in person I that's why I was. upset when Jon Jones man I was gonna go. to that fight yeah oh man because he's. on his way out uh I love Jon Jones I. love J Jones that dude is I hate when. everybody everybody so much sidesteps. him when he tore that Peck muscle I was. so bummed out. God damn I wanted to see him versus DPE.

still hope maybe yeah maybe I mean LM it. seems like that's what they want to do. it seems like that's the fight that they. want to do he keeps vocalizing to uh to. Tom Aspen all you know what I mean and I. feel like he already wrote like which we. all kind of assume but I think he'll. have that fight with Stipe if Stipe is. still hanging around um and then you. know kind run off run off into maybe or. they'll maybe he'll do aspen depending. upon I mean I don't think he has any. interest to be honest you don't think so. no why not. man elow elbow surgery also when did he.

have this he said be while he was having. PEC surgery because he had to recover. for so long he went ahead and got his. elbow done too is this recently yeah. like I this I thought this was the video. but this was like 11 weeks ago wasn't. this the day this was the day out uh. right after or a couple days out after. it happened I think that video I'll uh. I'll find it cuz this is not recent. though that punching the thing is not. this was like two weeks ago a week ago I. thought it was on his Instagram account. but I'll look it up real. quick the the the thing is like John is.

what 36 now is that how old he is no I. think he's ah he's not I thought he was. 38 I don't know I wonder I wonder how. old was joh 30 just had right here but a. week ago he had elbow surgery to shave. off bone 36 yeah 36 I thought he was a. little bit older than that yeah when you. start getting surgeries when [ __ ] starts. falling off bro that's me now yeah well. that one injury for sure. J Jones said heered to shave bone spurs. in his left elbow so exactly that right.

so what I just told you about my pain in. my elbow I have like six or seven of. those in my elbow right now so imagine. and that's where all the nerves are yeah. yeah so man some days I gotta I'm in. pain and they can't go in there and. scoop those out not before this fight uh. after the fight you think I'm definitely. going to mention it I'm definitely going. to mention it have you done any stem. cells or anything for that uh not so I I. had a torn uh laborum and I got some. stem cells to try and fix that um and.

then honestly it really agitated it. where you know and then the fight got. announced and everything so this this. fight is sooner than I wanted it to be. uh in a way but you don't say no to. something like this like this this is a. good fight for me um and when I say good. fight I think that this. is a fight that I'm very capable of. winning at this point in time with the. directory I'm on with all the you know. people call it hype but I [ __ ] earned. it this isn't hype this is called I paid.

my dues and I was out for a year and. eight [ __ ] months and made a comeback. made my comeback fight with a broken. left hand still knocked that dude out. which was Derek brunson's wrestling. coach uh came back knocked out another. guy you know what I mean so broken left. hand going into that my I I broke my. left hand my left thumb in half like. right where the joint is and I still. went in there and I remember my coach. was like yo we got a fight down we just. got to do this man like you do this. you're going back to the UFC and it was.

the first time I ever wored with my my. head coach John Marquez um and uh how. far out did you break your thumb from. the fight uh I think it was nine days oh. God damn Jesus Christ when they grabbed. my hand like the commission grab like. the medical tent and they grabbed my. hand and I was like but I wind up. getting it I took a XL uh glove or. double XL glove because you know my. hands aren't that big but I bro it was. terrible it was terrible did you find a. way to tape it in some way yeah I mean.

we still taped it up like it was a fight. right so I still had tons of pain but. the pressure stopped me from feeling. like it was like floating around so uh. and I actually threw it like maybe three. four times in that fight just out of. like habit and uh but yeah I mean first. fight back year and eight months break. your break your left hand I have the. X-ray for it um and then uh you know let. alone the nerves I had to come back I'd. never thrown my right hand in a real. fight and uh man it it was awful and.

then 3 weeks later I was playing. basketball i' love playing basketball. and [ __ ] broke my ankle and the UFC. calls and says hey you want to fight on. the contender Series so when I say I've. had injury after injury and it gets it. gets keeps going what do do you think. like maybe I shouldn't play basketball. maybe I shouldn't do stuff I don't play. yeah so but you know so yeah you know. but here's the thing I don't I my my. theory on life it could be wrong I don't. want to. I don't want to cheat myself along the. way to do the things that I still love. you know like and if I have to stop if I.

have to live so [ __ ] careful I'm. gonna develop that habit to live like a. [ __ ] hermit crap right and I that's. not me man I get on a motorcycle I'm. going 205 [ __ ] M hour Jo don't do. that but that's but that's me bro that's. just that's I'm a thrill seeker you. remember Diego corales no I don't I. don't I don't know follow boxing Diego. caral was like he was involved the guy. that's a paraplegic no he's dead now he. died in a motorcycle accident good job. Joe he was a uh he was a big boxer he's.

famous for the one fight was it Jose. Luis Castillo is that what it was he had. this fight with Jose Luis Castillo it. like one of the greatest displays of. guts because he was out man I mean he. was out he was battered his eyes are SW. watch this fight Diego Diego carrales is. in the white with the red stripes okay. and Jose Luis Castillo who's also a very. tough guy is the guy in the red and he. he rocks him and he hurts.

him I mean corales looks like he's done. I mean he looks like he's done he gets. hit with a perfect left hook he gets. dropped and he gets up I mean this is. like an. aoti type performance. like I mean it was one of those fights. where you just like my God he gets up I. mean he is [ __ ] he's [ __ ] and. Castillo catches him again I mean it. looks like the fight's over some some. referees maybe even would stop it right.

there you know I mean some referees you. see you go down again like that they're. waving that off right a lot of referees. and then I would say good call good. stoppage the guy's done right watch this. I mean Coral's left ey completely. swollen shut can't see [ __ ] gets dropped. twice looks like he could barely stand. he's talking to the referee he's like. don't stop this don't stop this I'm. good so he puts his mouthpiece back.

in they're giving him some time here. which is nice gets back out in. there I mean he's he's he's still [ __ ]. right yeah yeah you're not recovered he. looks bad his legs his legs don't look. and Castillo's a very big. [Applause]. puncher yeah he looks like he's with. it and he gets clipped again. again I mean this is this is like an. alltime classic.

performance oh he's got him I mean this. is really like Mickey Ward and auro. Gotti Castillo punch himself and then. all a. sudden all a sudden he comes. back I mean this is like from the verge. of defeat he catches him with the left. hook. yeah I mean Ste is done see that look at. his face but it's crazy if you think.

about how done caral was then the refere. stops it right there he stops unbel I. mean crazy crazy crazy comeback well. Diego was a wild fell and he died on a. motorcycle so yeah so I've heard some so. many so many bad stories um but like you. won't you don't get into a car and I'm. going to give you my my my my thought. right right you won't get into your car. know the car we talked about the Camaro.

you won't get in that and be like man I. could die driving this now you know the. dangers of it you know how fast it is. and whatnot but you'll never you'll. never like I won't I could die going in. this cage right I could get kicked I. could have one eye I could be paraplegic. I could have my face broken you know and. I get it you know what I mean so I just. I don't do things thinking that I'm. going to fail it's just it's not in my. brain like I I won't I don't know I just. do that because I'm not worried about. you I'm worried about the variabilities. of the other people on the road and.

driving and drunk and all that nonsense. well it makes you feel better I don't. have one right now good and uh I got rid. of it so I live I live in a condo so I. got rid of it because I was going to put. it in the house and I was like oh. landlord wouldn't like that so I was. like you going to ride the bike right. into the house I was going to sit it in. the living. room but I did I didn't do it so I got. rid of it yeah but uh yeah I'm I'm a. thrill seeker man I love cars tell me. about your Evo yeah I got that evo8 baby. widebody yeah yeah Big Turbo you got a.

picture of it yeah I do dude it's it's. nice send it to Jamie it's you get to. air drop it to him that's a [ __ ]. great car all right cool cuz I got my. tag those are great cars so you built. that right yeah yeah yeah so we have a. it had a 4g64 and now it's I'm going uh. uh 4g63 so um I'll send you two pictures. so that way you can see the front and. the back for people don't know explain. what that car is so that car an. all-wheel drive 2006 Mitsubishi Evo um.

it's a wild little car man super. light crazy handling did I not save your. number Jamie I'm gonna send it to you Jo. send it to me does the air drop work can. you see Jamie on the air drop let me see. yeah one second I'm looking through your. Instagram too you had other awesome cars. on there but not the Evo Jamie there he. is MacBook Pro yep. cool got it. got. it yeah so my that's been my therapy.

right so I've always wanted to be in the. cars my neighbor when I was young um you. know that his name was Henry papiano. good dude like honestly he I I love him. because we don't talk all the time and I. haven't talked to him in years but yeah. that's that's my baby that's a wild. little car dude it was built the body. and the paint that's an actual P1. McLaren paint job it's the real actual. paint of it um and it's got the voltax. on there the wheels so I bought the car. built as is with a 4g64 in it but now it.

has a 4g63 um that's how many that thing. have uh that setup was the 4g64 block so. that made uh estimated from what I was. told from who I bought it from uh that. it made. 808 yeah it's got a full roll cage. that's so crazy that car's got to weigh. 2,000 lb now man let me tell you so what. does it weigh it it's it's like four. it's like almost 4,000 lb really it's. that heavy yeah I think it's 38 to 41. 100 pound something like that dude that. is yeah you like my.

tag for body bags we got JP bags baby um. so cars man I I'll smile all day I could. be around cars all day it's definitely. something that's like a therapy for me. it's how I found like I don't know man I. love it I love it 888 horsepower is it's. the most agile car so I've driven to. Lamborghini Aventador which was a dream. car mine that's royalty Exotics in Vegas. they always hook me up every fight um. yeah man they're going down memory lane. yeah I was trying to find your car I. figured you would that's a wild car man.

yeah yeah I had a that was the first. Corvette I ever bought it was a C5 Z6. stock as hell oh those are fun cars. though it was a turd but they're fun. though they're kind of plasticky yeah. yeah but you know what I have to say my. dream card was a a C6 Z6 I went up. getting one um and then I didn't like. the interior compared to that one right. cuz I like the leather I like the old. look I don't like the plastic look a lot. of modern cars but well Corvette nailed. it with the new interior the new. interior is perfect so the new interior.

is cool but I hate the C8 look because. they took away from the traditional long. snout you know rear wheel drive like now. it's a Mid Engine short snout like I I'm. not a fan of it and I can't fit in it. very well right so I don't like it. that's why I'll never buy a Lamborghini. I'll never buy a Ferrari I won't buy a. Porsche I don't fit in it and I don't I. think Porsche is ugly but that's just. really dare I know yo I will say driving. GT3 is amazing though but the. Evo man I've never driven a car that fun.

in my life it's wild what you can do. with some of those Japanese cars like. with some of the things that people do. to GTRs yeah like they have GTRs that. are like 2,000. horsepower Godzillas [ __ ] insane yeah. have you ever been to a drag strip yes. yeah you've raced no I've never never. driven a car on a drag strip but now. would you no I'm not interested in doing. that no I've seen too many of them go. like this we float up in the air oh man. yeah that's scary I think you're making. a little bit more than th000 horsepower.

though doing that oh to go up in the air. like that I mean you probably got they. probably got no weight in that thing. like you know I mean I'm not gut in a. car I don't want to I I saw a 67. Corvette recently do that uh on YouTube. or Instagram or something like that just. took to the air just the guy was just. and then up in the air see I'll get out. of I'm not I'm not that ballsy like if I. start feeling like I'm lifting I'm out. Jamie. is crazy let me. see yeah that's a scary proposition when.

you're going that fast in a straight. line your car just catches what's the. fastest you've been in a car on a. racetrack yeah I think I was 178. 179 the Camaro PP those numbers up baby. yeah no I'm good look at that thing. catching air yeah there it goes look at. that guy that guy's launching through. the [ __ ] air son that guy said [ __ ]. it full send hey what a great re wow. look at that wow he is nuts though. that's crazy but yeah he was did some. good [ __ ] in his life to not die there. yeah right he was fully in the air bro.

I'd be so mad I be so upset my car is. messed up now such a beautiful car I've. been watching uh car Masters on Netflix. oh okay yeah I don't know if you've if. you ever watch bro it's like they take. like rust buckets pieces of [ __ ] and. like everybody would write off uh you. know they do [ __ ] like Zephyr uh they. put a 383 stroker motor and a Tesla oh. wow um so it's pretty cool yeah I love. watching that stuff like what I watch. before I go to bed yeah I love. cars I mean it's going to be a sad day.

when there's no cars cuz I feel like. that's coming I feel like they're trying. to World economic for and all these. [ __ ] psychos are trying to make it so. no one owns a car and Teslas are great. man like I hate them as for yeah like. I've driven don't like it I don't like. the automatic breaking I don't like all. the like gadgets like the it's like a. big ass iPad that's not I want like a. knob to turn but I'm also American. Muscle like old school I'm also import. too but no obviously with the Evo but I. I do love muscle if I had to choose like.

one car that gives me the most Joy it's. old muscle cars do you have a particular. car not really I like them you don't. have a favorite out of everything you. got you don't have a specific no I have. a 70 chevel that I [ __ ] love yeah. it's so raw just it's a 454 and just. it's pumped up it's got like 650. horsepower it just it's a perfect. balance big ass fat tires it's a. roadster shop car too so it handles and. breaks real well but it's just this. that's exact that's exactly what my. neighbor had he had a chevel and that's. what started it for me I remember being.

maybe 6 seven years old and we were poor. man my parents combined never made more. than 30,000 in a household of seven. combined um but uh yeah I mean I. remember him ripping down he had an. orange one he did the motor himself and. he would rip down as soon as he put me. you know what that I think that's what. got me hooked on this adrenaline [ __ ] he. took me for a ride one time I'm like my. dad's a dead beat bro I'll never get to. do this so I was like I want the. neighbor to be my dad but he took me for. a ride first time I went over 100 and I.

was like I was just remember being like. Oh my god dude so. cool and it's the sound the feel of. those things too when I was uh I think I. was like 16 a buddy of mine picked me up. uh in his friend's car and his friend uh. they they were you know just picking me. up we're going to go somewhere and his. friend had a 70 chevel and it was. perfect it was just Cherry it was a. black with white Stripes The Tuxedo one. which is what I have and I remember. thinking as 16 years like how can this.

guy own this how is it possible that a. person could own this perfect car I. couldn't imagine it I couldn't imagine. it you remember how old you were I think. I was 16 I was in high school for sure. and I remember he ran out of gas and. coasted he ran out of gas at the perfect. time and coasted right into the gas. station I mean it was like this guy's. the coolest guy that's ever lived ran. out of gas he's got the perfect car he. coasted into this gas station and I. here's what I like about the the the the.

car people the car world the because if. you're a car guy somewhere along the. line I mean especially if you're. building your own cars your blue collar. right like they could teach you [ __ ] you. know I have these nerds today that you. they're calling Triple A or I don't know. [ __ ] double A I don't know what it is. but they can't even change a tire right. they don't know that where's the oil go. it's like bro you call yourself a man. but you can't change Tire you can't. change oil like you don't know what to. do if the car starts like you don't you. don't know anything you're useless that. is the thing with modern cars you open.

them up and it's a computer there's just. so much going on in there and you know. there's an ECU that's powering. everything and that has to be not unless. you got to Standalone that's. true yeah no but that's that's actually. the issue I think I'm going to run into. with this new build on the EVO I think. I'm might have to get like a standalone. and get it get a tune there you know get. get like a motch or something like that. and CU there's only so much you could do. with a stock e you know what I mean like. safety fails and [ __ ] like that I'm sure. they probably have it on some of your. cars but you got to have your safety.

fails so you don't blow it up again but. you know Gordon Ryan Yes Gordon Ryan is. uh now obsessed with vipers he's trying. to get me to buy one of these C vipers. that's my dream car 2017 Dodge Viper ACR. you seen the [ __ ] penelo commercial. yes bro I like B on cry watching that. I'm like find that commercial that that. car is a monster but there's a company. it's calvo right calvo aut Sports yeah. it's got it's got to be yeah there. there's there's one of the they're. they're around the. country there's one there's one company.

that's in town that uh Jacks him up to. like 2,000 horsepower oh man sh. Mak can't wait one day mark my words. last. Viper it's absolutely an amazing car. it's just the sound look at the way that. thing looks God and that hood the hood. with the vents in it it's that wing too. though everything everything remember. the TV show where they change the Viper. changed no it like 1995 I thought it was.

real it changed from the red convertible. to the yellow hard top no you thought it. was real how old were you 10 I. don't at that. [ __ ] and that's how that's how I. drive too I bet look at that [ __ ] I'm. just not as good as that guy and you. can't get that [ __ ] in automatic it. doesn't exist you don't that [ __ ]. automatic you don't get a fast car in. automatic man not that one not that one. look at that [ __ ] that is a.

goddamn monster that is a American. monster right there woo it's got that. superar sound but that V12 good Lord is. a V10 yeah I think it's a V10 V10 yeah. look at that [ __ ] look at the fire. coming out of the sides over the hard. dooo that's beautiful man whoever drove. that knows how to a [ __ ]. drive what a.

car if you don't get excited by this. move somewh my heart starts racing. watching it yeah you you need to go to. another country I get more adrenaline. from driving like that then fighting. look at that [ __ ] thing good. Lord good. Lord God that thing is amazing Dodge. let's hook it up dude you need to have. me on your te. team I love Dodge I have a ram I have a. TRX that I got from John Hennessy do you.

th hor power do you like a truck that. fast [ __ ] yeah I love that one yeah I. love that one don't say that loud Sean. BR to be upset with a slow ass Ford. Raptor oh those are great too no they're. good he's got a nice R are great the new. one the raptor r the V8 one is insane. and Hennessy's doing that too he's. taking that up to 1,000 H Raptor are. twin terbell no it must be it's either. supercharged or twin turbo think well I. mean regular Raptors are usually turboed.

so I a turbo six and this is I think it. has the same engine as the. GT500 I think that's the idea behind it. cuz it's 700 stock from the factory and. then Hennessy takes it and he jacks it. up so I'm 99% sure it's supercharged you. don't remember this TV show no no I. never saw this you thought this was real. Jamie I was 10 I never heard of a Viper. in my. it just changes the color did you. believe in Santa as a kid he did till he. was 12.

damn Viper TV show Growing UPC or. something growing up we didn't get the. joy there was no [ __ ] Santa there was. no like hey [ __ ] we ain't got. money you're not getting no gifts like. we used to have the church like donate. us like uh gifts and whatnot because I. grew up Christian and whatnot but well. there was no Santa is horrible for you. as a child but I firmly believe that. being poor as a kid is is also a. supercharger it's a it's like a. superpower there's something about it. you're grateful you you're grateful and.

you can't replace that you can't if you. have someone that grows up wealthy and. then they just they become successful in. life they're never going to have that. same gear as a person who grows up poor. there's something about growing up poor. it sucks it gives you a it gives you a a. burning desire for the things that you. want and you want to figure it out I. mean the these kids that are born into. money it's actually someone we both know. where it's like sometime and and even. people like back home it's like I know.

people that have kids where it's like. they don't know how to like fit in. because status and money and [ __ ] like. that so that could be damaging for a kid. you know and it's it's it's good to have. them in sports it's good to have them in. school you know curriculums like after. school activities and I always tell. everybody that's like got a boy if he's. got an attitude problem like put that. [ __ ] in wrestling man 100%. wrestling is the best thing for a trou. 100% 100% 100% cuz there's no easy. wrestling no man but you have to you.

have to show respect to your coaches you. have to show up on time you have you pay. if you you're late you get broken down. dud you get broken down it's good that's. the thing the they getting the broken. down and then the kind of status you get. from that you really feel that that's. earned status it's a different status. it's a team score individual you know. grading you know what I mean so it's. cool man wrestling like my life got real. tough once I got to. like once I left home so my parents. divorced at 15 like I testified I never. wanted to see my mom again and then I I.

left with my Dad yeah so you know the. other the other branch of that story is. you got the abuse from at least my. earliest memory of like four and a half. five years old and then till 15 years. old then we leave I go to PA with my dad. because my mom basically hated my guts I. was a it was like it was such a divided. family it was the girls and my mom that. we lived like the farm life like I GR up. a farm boy and uh against like my dad. and the fighter right like like I was a. puppet and uh you know I just mimicked.

everything that he said but you know um. I chose my dad because I didn't want to. lose wrestling or or Jiu-Jitsu or or. boxing and everything but then when I. got giv you mean but then when I got up. to PA he had already had a girl he was. laid up in that it was like that's all. that mattered to him and then she worked. he doesn't work you know what I mean so. he found somebody to pre on to. manipulate to do his thing and then it. was like I don't need my kid no more. after I went to court and like you know. I didn't understand the consequences of. testifying testifying in court against. your mom and being dragged to court out.

of school and that. humiliation um and uh you know I didn't. talk to my my mom and my sisters for. years and we we don't talk currently we. haven't talked since before I got in UFC. and we haven't talked since before I. broke my arm wow because I knocked my. sister's boyfriend out for being a. methhead oh Jesus yeah yeah so yeah it. is what it is is but uh but yeah man I. mean once I moved up to PA it got that. was the worst like that short span.

from 15 to like 18 was like man like I. was ready to I was out so where were you. staying during that time so I stayed in. Media PA I lived in uh I lived in it's. it's Pennsylvania but it's like 25. minutes outside of uh Philadelphia so. it's like the suburb city um honestly. it's like a bougie it's not bougie but. it's like a town County nice town and uh. you know everything was new to me I came. from a school of 330 kids I got into.

high school I was in a school of like. 1600 kids acrost four grades but they. were all like preppy [ __ ] like kids. down in South Jersey where I grew up. they were they were all fighting each. other like beating each other up jumping. each other after school up here. everybody would talk [ __ ] and nobody. would fight so it was like a weird it. was a weird thing for me to adjust I. didn't have friends I didn't have a. phone like until I started getting a job. and yeah man it was weird it was really. weird I uh I lived in a two-bedroom. apartment um and my dad his girl at the.

time uh she's married to now um and her. two daughters we all lived in a. two-bedroom apartment you know what I. mean so it was like it was just like a. bunch it was it was a terrible living. situation and then the beatings man I. swear to God he used to beat me up just. to prove that he. could beat me you know and show his girl. that he was tough and he know like. nobody could [ __ ] with him type of deal. and it was just like man so it got real. dark man and started like stomping me.

breaking my like broke my teeth um I had. two two crowns you know because of him. because he breaking my teeth and I would. I would curl up like he would punch me. like a grown man but I would curl up he. would throw uppercuts like that's how. intent this guy was on getting me and. um the last fight we had it was over a. [ __ ] game called Uncharted 3 and it. was we were playing Co-op but because I. would get more kills than him this is. the kind of [ __ ] he we rage at he so and. mind you throughout all these years. right he's on SSD the reason being he. had a car accident he was an oil truck.

driver uh I I forget the story of who. blew the light but when he was gone. through the light he got T-boned or he. T-boned somebody blew out his back had. to get surgery apparently it failed. whenever he wanted to jump up and whoop. your ass though dude wasn't crippled no. more so it's crazy you know and he would. go box 15 rounds but throughout 2004 all. the way until I was 15 years old and and. then some this man was on narcotics all. the time he was on Viking and perco oxie.

and uh he he definitely was addicted. there was never a time that I didn't see. it the dude used to have like 60 [ __ ]. bottles of it and um he would he would. take medicine and then he would drank. two. Yingling and I think when I look back. I'm like man like that [ __ ] don't make a. [ __ ] angry and. uh yeah I mean it just got worse as I. got older but I remember the last fight. that we had it was you know I used to I. I remember I used to look at him and be. crying and say you know like how come. you don't love me like what I got this.

empty hole in my chest CU I didn't. understand emotion so i' I'd like try to. plead with him like yo like something's. wrong with me I got something I got aole. I got like got a hole in my heart like. or my chest I don't know what this I I. don't even know how to explain it and uh. you know the things he would say in. rebuttal would be like [ __ ] kill. yourself your feelings don't matter shut. the [ __ ] up when I say jump you say how. high like it was there was no remorse. for anything he did and I think that's. why I despise him um you know the dude. hurt. me uh he hurt me for a lot of years that.

I had to repair um and even then I still. carry over some bad bad attitude. problems and uh you know the dude. [ __ ] it got to the point where it was. like either I'm GNA kill myself or I'mma. kill him and finally he beat me half to. death the one day I mean beat me half to. death and uh I packed a bag of clothes. and he came out he pulled a [ __ ]. knife on me said he was going to going. to kill me with it I shoved them ranan. out the [ __ ] door never went back. Jesus Christ never went back but how old. were you then 16 I was just turning I.

was I I was either 16 and the week after. 17 I don't remember um but I was it I. was within two weeks of turning 17 when. I left um or I just turned 17 and then. left so uh it was in the month of. September God damn and yeah so I left. slept in the park for a couple nights. and uh then I wind up standing up for uh. a kid uh a black kid that was getting. called Rachel slurs and that was my. first friend I had made and uh yeah I.

mean he wind up having uh he definitely. was on the Spectrum like he he wasn't. the smartest kid um unfortunately like. he he had some things that uh people. would pick on him for um like being. overweight and and he would say some. weird stuff and whatnot but uh yeah he. was the first F friend that I developed. and um his brother was in juvie for for. arson trying to light somebody's house. on fire and he was adopted by a white. man so but the house that they lived in. bro it was like the most disgusting.

living environment you could [ __ ]. think of cat piss infested hoarder of. comics that were all destroyed from cat. piss. um like every part of the house would. have been sticky like your shoes would. stick to the [ __ ] floor um and there. were [ __ ] everywhere the smell was like. a pneumonia um maggots in the sink. because he refused for about 4 years to. fix the garbage disposal that's how long. it sat there Broken Live Wire on the. overhead of the oven so I lived in there.

um and I wind up with I used to run. papers to the courthouse and make like. 75 bucks a week so every time I would. make a little bit of money and his dad. would give me some money sometimes to. like try and help uh like straighten up. the house and I would buy bleach and. [ __ ] bleach [ __ ] and try to clean and. bro it was disgusting like you could. wash your clothes six [ __ ] times and. it would still smell like cat piss in. pneumonia and it was a very embarrassing. very. humbling way to live and I lived off in. like instant food like microwave food.

for the next two years all my wrestling. high school years and the next two years. that I was there everything was either. donated food for my wrestling coach um. will Harmon who [ __ ] man that that. was my Saving Grace when I went to that. school you know I don't want to miss. that part like that's important to me. that man is the whole reason I'm in the. UFC now wow so um God damn dude those. were the living conditions man like I. mean I mean [ __ ] and he my wrestling.

coach would come to the house and then I. had truy officers coming after me. because I miss so much school um it was. either dius or some child services at a. certain point that was like who's taking. care of you who's your caregiver and you. know I had a nasty response for him and. nothing kind of came of it but it was. like do I look like I'm [ __ ]. unhealthy I remember slamming the door. and the woman's face cuz I thought they. were going to try and take me from the. house oh but uh but yeah man it was. shitty times and uh you know life beat.

you up in ways that you're not prepared. for and doesn't change no matter how. much money you make no matter you're. here you're here there's always going to. be a problem it's just how you rolled it. so well for sure but having been through. the problems that you've been through I. guarantee you you know how to navigate. problems better than most people I voice. it a lot you know people always think. I'm bitching. but I just I'm bro and I am sometimes I. [ __ ] you know because that's my way of. coping I'll put it out there so it's not.

stuck inside and that's something that's. worked for me you know I say a lot of. things that I feel and uh as long as I. get it out I'm happy you know what I. mean or any at least I'm settled I don't. have that like anger like waiting to. explode you know that's the wor you ever. think of where you would be if it wasn't. for martial arts in that same myself. myself I would kill myself 100% I I. struggled even when I had it you know. and and that's. the it's one of the only things that. gets people out yeah I just I just.

didn't see a life for me man I was so. stupid and when I say stupid like the. whole time that my dad's a stay at home. Dad and and I want to give credit to my. mother too you know my mother I never. really felt like loved me that much and. uh you know it is what it is but uh my. mom worked her ass off and that's why I. get my work ethic that woman held two. jobs she did what she could to provide. she wasn't you know she wasn't a bum she. was she tried and she did the best she.

could with a dude like that you know. what I mean she was she never had. another man still hasn't had another man. to this day she was married to him for. 20 years they had five blood kids and uh. yeah I mean I owe my mom respect for. that because she's a hardworking woman. and uh didn't matter if she she used to. work at shoppr right Home Depot those. were her two jobs and CNA and you know. she she did what she could you know so I. respect her for that and um yeah I mean.

[ __ ] man that dude was not teaching us. homeschool is my point for years you. were afraid to ask him to [ __ ] give. you a spelling. be because he was sitting at the [ __ ]. computer playing games so if you did it. what the [ __ ] do you want why the [ __ ]. are you bother like it was always a huge. like explosion so you're a kid and you. know from getting beat by this person. it's like I don't want to make him mad. he might [ __ ] slap me he might hit me. might do something so all of us were. scared we didn't [ __ ] learn anything. I tested get in public school. [ __ ] they held me back I was.

dumb as. [ __ ] like it is what it is so uh yeah I. mean so my point is making light of. something you know dark you know but. then coming back to the dark side man if. if I didn't have MMA I don't I don't. think I would be successful. um I don't think I would have been. strong enough I don't think I would have. had confidence and uh I think life would. have broke me man I think I would have I. would have taken I would have taken you. know the easy way out you're in a great. position now though man you know I know.

you've gone through hell but it's uh I. really do think that it's prepared you. in a way that nothing else does you know. just for the ability to overcome. adversity the ability to deal with. things and again that the superpower of. that horrible childhood it sounds like a. terrible thing I would never wish it on. anyone but when I know that someone has. been through that and then you see them. succeeding like that's a special kind of. person that's a person that's got some. extra. gears yeah yeah right like but you know.

taught me that the people I reached out. to I was I was so broken but I never. stopped asking questions like Sammy Ora. no he was someone I always looked up to. he's 133 he fought in Bellator like you. know he wind up retiring because he have. kids and he was working two jobs and it. just didn't like it wasn't something he. wanted anymore you know right but he was. someone I always idolized Eddie Alvarez. was someone I always idolized still talk. to him today you know like take he's. awesome but he would I would always see. him go to the gym go home he didn't.

[ __ ] he didn't go out clubbing he. didn't do all the party [ __ ] um I'm sure. he did at a time right like but you know. when he was with Jamie he started having. kids I didn't see him you know and I. didn't know him terribly well I knew him. in the gym really well I didn't know him. personally outside of the gym you know. that's where I always saw him but um. yeah I had a lot of good examples right. and then man soon as I went to high. school I met will Haron who that guy. housed me for four years cuz after I. left that place I had.

bro this I'm gonna I don't care if this. is ratchet right you want to talk about. trash I had a friend and I had a. girlfriend right ter worst girl I ever. met in my life um leave it at that okay. I never known. somebody so I moved out of this place. that was basically a [ __ ] hole I started. working in Verizon it was my first job. and I said hey hey either I'm going in. the military because I don't know what. the [ __ ] I'm going to be with my life or. I'm going to fight if I get this job I'm. going to fight I interviewed somehow I.

must have been a good talker [ __ ] got. an interview job no job experience. [ __ ] idiot somehow I landed it got a. job started working why not moving out. moved into a condo across the street. from my high school wrestling coach who. if you've seen the. documentary is super impactful on my. life so I mov across then I moved from. there after a year I moved to another. place was only there for a short period. of time the whole relationships wind up. falling apart I was trying to fight. while knowing somebody that I thought. was a best friend had [ __ ] around with.

my girl while he was engaged to his girl. and that was my [ __ ] living situation. and I was so you know eager to have a. best friend that the [ __ ] was. never a best friend right and it was. like man you got I got the Heartbreak. that I got every [ __ ] turn and this. was two weeks before I had one of the. biggest fights that really put me on a. trajectory like man I'm gonna I'm GNA. kill everybody I'm fighting and. um so that happened two weeks before.

then that was when I broke it off with. my dad he came over and he got in my. face one time and it was the only time I. ever I never put my hands on him I never. fought back I never even put my hands on. him till this day and uh but it was one. of those times where you know how when. you I don't know if you've ever had this. moment where somebody gets in your face. and you're a kid and you have the chin. quiver and you're like [ __ ] nervous. and it's like it's almost like you're. you're trapped in fear man he said some. [ __ ] about putting a bullet in my head. he said he was going to come back and. put a bullet in my head I was like y.

[ __ ] before you get to that car. I was like I'm gonna bury you like. that's it like I'll take out every. [ __ ] part of my Angry being to. destroy you you will not make it to your. car like that's it you're done like you. die and uh I think it was the first time. like that [ __ ] knew like he. always knew I was better like 16 years. old I could submit him he was a brown. belt in JJ but I could beat him and I. think that started to intimidate him and. I think that's why the the beatings got. worse and worse and worse I think he was.

scared that I was going to come like. rise up against. them um but yeah I mean that was the. last time and yeah I mean [ __ ] man so. I've just had like betrayal betrayal. betrayal betrayal but I haven't lost. faith in people you know I met a couple. really good ones that changed my life. and you never let them go the horrible. thing about having horrible people in. your life is it can ruin your faith in. people but the one thing that it does do. it makes you really appreciate good. people yeah if you can if you can get.

past it you could re like you don't. appreciate Sunshine unless you. experience a lot of rain you you have to. you have to feel a cold to appreciate. the warmth you get spoiled otherwise so. that's exactly what I had to explain to. somebody the other day they're like why. do you live where you live why do you. train where you train I'm like man you. know what it's like to go to the hood. where our gym is our Gym's in the hood. it's on a fourth floor building it's. like a like a warehouse type [ __ ] it's. actually pretty cool building yeah Sean. was explaining it to me yeah and uh like.

we're nothing fancy man like John John. John doesn't like John Marquez is my. head boxing coach um and then Jonathan. Webb is my jiujitsu coach. and Jonathan webs is in Jersey and John. Marquez is in Philadelphia in the hood. like man we it's we're not a fancy. facility we have a [ __ ] square cage. like like you know what I mean like we. don't have tons of money and we're in a. shitty area but John does it to to help.

like he does it to promote like all. these other gyms all these other puppy. mill [ __ ] gyms that want to brag. about this and that and they got nice. state-ofthe-art [ __ ] we don't got no. State we got some handy down [ __ ]. weights and we're we're a grind man but. we work [ __ ] hard and I like that I. like being in the trenches so that when. I come out I appreciate it when I go. home I appreciate where I live you know. I don't live in the best place but it's. like I live in a place that I feel safe. in and for many a years until my. wrestling coach took me in for four.

years I was not safe I wasn't I bro I. hadn't like [ __ ] pissed myself till I. was like 12 [ __ ] years old like. thinking there was something wrong with. me I grew up thinking that I had a. mental health issue like like something. like I thought it was stupid like I. don't know I don't want to say a certain. word something wrong you you were. tortured mentally my dad convinced me. that there was something mentally wrong. with me well it was him it was your. environment but how do you know any. better you know imagine thinking that. for so many years and then when you're. homeschooled there's bro I didn't have. [ __ ] friends right I didn't know so.

we were all the weird kids and and then. when your response when you try to. express emotion one one of one of the. things cuz this [ __ ] haunts me to this. day because I I wish I wish I could have. heard him my sister said she wanted to. kill herself cuz she felt like her dad. didn't love her and we go and we pick. her up right this the kind of guy is we. go to pick her up the whole family goes. to pick her up up my mom my four sisters. me we go pick her up pick her up from. school my dad seems really concerned.

like yeah yeah I don't know why she. would say that you know but you could. tell it's like you could tell he was. burning inside so we lived like 10. minutes from school we get home we all. get out of the car and we're all like. quiet we're all quiet we're like man. something's about to go down like soon. as she opens the door like gave the key. grabs her by hair grabs her by pants. [ __ ] throws her Chucks her in the. [ __ ] room start strangling her in. like like put like threw on the [ __ ]. couch and then start strangling her in. between the cushions and then we all.

have to fight him to get him. off that's your response to your. daughter who's suicidal you know what I. mean so like when I say and we were all. mean to each other that made it even. worse we were all mean we were all. caring in that moment because we knew. like this isn't right seeing him hit my. mom cops being in our house 12 times a. year and [ __ ] like that like like I grew. up dysfunctional this [ __ ] [ __ ] me up. and it [ __ ] me up when I was toxic I. was you know negative and I'm still like. toxic and negative right but like you. learn who people are when you see that.

kind of [ __ ] I can have conversations. like a conversation I want to have like. you're you could talk about anything. you're open-minded like but you're also. you got your beliefs right like you're. you're a real person I don't like. everybody because you know when. somebody's got this fake face and my dad. was one of those people he had them. [ __ ] fake face man but the second he. could get you in that door to hurt you. he would take it and it's. like when you see when you when you grow. up with that it just makes you angry and. then that's why it's like you're going. to take half my purse this [ __ ].

is my toughest test you g to take it. from me come on try it and you might if. you beat me you're one of the best in. the world in my mind and I've never I I. can I can honestly say this through all. that [ __ ] I have such a strong. confidence in myself where it's like man. ain't no man beating me until it's been. done it's not happening I have a loss on. my career as an amateur because I was. 174 lbs fighting at at 185 training. twice a week with a full-time job with. that girl. that [ __ ] me up my first pro loss.

struggling with suicide depression. things like that still hadn't settled. that beef with myself first time I ever. went in a fight was absolutely. dominating the fight uh I still his. guy's name is Jonathan potty love the. guy super nice guy still talk to him. would never want to fight him again like. but it was a good loss for me and then. you got my arm break I got one real loss. man and I got one I got I lost to myself. I lost to my [ __ ] mental health like.

I lost to I lost before I got in right. so it's just you're you're in a very. good spot now though and I want to talk. to you about like where you fit in in. the UFC's middleweight division because. you're like what I would call on the. cusp like you're a guy the jack her. Manon fight is going to put you into a. great place if you win that but you're. in that conversation that two more. fights in a title what I'm saying like. within the next year or two you could be. fighting for a title yeah but I'm I'm. going to be smart man you know uh mental. health is something my fight every day.

and the reason I keep bringing it up is. because I'm GNA fight and I'm gonna win. and then I'm GNA take some time and then. I'm going to go on vacation and I'm. going to settle some things I got in. myself you know within myself and uh you. feel like that's something that you have. to do like there something you're. putting off yeah yeah now when you say. do you work with anybody do you have a. therapist or so I I just have a lot of. people that I talk to close i' I've. tried therapy like three four times and. I've never really gotten a benefit from. it um I don't know if it's just because.

I haven't met the right one um or they. haven't been able to get through to me. like I'm not an open person where I like. I'm an open person like I can talk about. these things right and and I may get. upset about some of them and I still. evoke strong emotion from it. but. uh just because you're listening doesn't. mean that I trust you with what I'm. telling you you know what I mean for you. to give feedback back and then me to. receive it in a way where I think okay. let me apply this so I just sometimes I. feel like therapy is just another [ __ ]. up human being telling another person.

hey you shouldn't feel like this but um. or you should try this and try that but. uh that's why I love cars so much that's. why I love cars I love nature and I and. I also want to take time because I. haven't taken a vacation since I've been. in UFC and a couple years before that I. haven't taken a vacation since before I. broke my arm um and uh I think part of. you know one of my biggest things isn't. holding the U title but one of my. biggest things is buying a beach house. and that superar I've always wanted that. Dodge Viper and uh you know having a l.

one and and going and traveling the. world before I'm dead I think that's. what my idea of peace and happiness is. and I'm desperately searching for it and. uh I mean like I said you get a lot of. power off the horrible experiences of. your childhood but the key is to not be. trapped by it forever and that's that's. where some people have to you have to. figure out a way to. come come come to grips with your life. and just accept it and to move forward. in a positive way you're obviously a.

very good guy you're obviously an. incredibly hard worker and you're. obviously very successful and you're. obviously haunted by your childhood but. someone could probably help you develop. the tools to put that aside you're never. it's never going to go away yeah it's. always going to be inside of you that. monster he's always going to be in a. cage but I'm okay with that but it's. good to be you're not going to forget it. Joe you're never going to forget it Joe. Joe you're never going to forget it but. the key is not let it consume you all. the time and that is where someone can.

probably help you you're never going to. forget it there's there's a monster. that's going to be inside of you. whenever you need them you never that's. not going to go away it's it's just not. going to go away but to not live with it. all the time would be very very. beneficial for you cuz then you would. get all of the positive attributes that. come from having a horrible childhood. which which is this Unstoppable drive. this Fury that you can unleash inside. the Octagon that's very different than. other people's but you can get to the.

point where it doesn't consume your. everyday life and it's not something you. have to think about all the time and you. can think about positive things and you. think about growth and expansion and and. and progress and I think you're very. capable of doing that it's just so many. people they they rightly so dwell on the. horrible experiences of the of their. childhood forever and there there comes. a time where that doesn't serve you. anymore and it it it rots at you where.

even with success you're still angry. even with success you're still bitter. even with success you still want to talk. about it you want to live it again and. you want to go over it in your head and. that that can rot you out from the. inside because at a certain point in. time like your your mind can't handle it. anymore yeah I would say I I grew. emotionally thin when I lost my first. profile fight that's where I was right. you know I can talk about it now and I. can evoke those strong emotions what I. remember with it but I forgive them like.

I I I view my dad now as you know. somebody like I said I I I don't respect. as a as a man because I don't think he's. the definition of what a man's supposed. to be for someone that teaches their. kids useful tools and whatnot but I I. I've forgiven him because I think it's. beyond his help because he never got. help because he never settled with his. now that is a man that has aged terribly. because of his past and his demons that. he's never let go I don't want to be. like that well you're not going to be. like that well I'm already not like that. I'm the only I'm the Joseph I'm Joseph.

Oliver Piper the fifth and I'm gonna be. the last um because I think I need to. make a lasting impression for my name. and I'm the first person that's ever you. know like none of them have been college. educated including me um at a certain. point you know I become successful. enough I want to go to college and get. some type of degree and uh do you read. I'm not a big reader but I watch I watch. podcast The Joe Rogan podcast um don't.

rely on this for Education no no no no. it's right but it it's uh it brings a. lot of your your podcast brings a lot of. diversity a lot of like you have to be. open-minded to listen to every episode. right you have like there's a lot of. different perspectives from a lot of. different successful people right so um. but no I I'm really big on listening to. people that have been through like. traumatic things listen to a lot of like. uh like Army vets that have spoken like. Nicholas Irving um the first black. American Sniper who had like 33.

confirmed kills or something like that I. watched his documentary and to hear the. trauma that he's gone through and the. things that he's done and how he is. still making a good impact for other. people you know that that was that's a. powerful dude and uh my life is very. common across the world uh and. unfortunately unfortunately yeah um. it's very common so I think I find light. and you always hear me say I don't know. if you've recognized but after every. fight I don't want to be a role model. but I want to be an inspiration for the.

kids that it's like hey stay in a sport. don't let that sport go and whatever. that unspoken is that stops you from. quitting follow it and if it's in. wrestling or if it's in soccer or if. it's in basketball keep doing it I used. to get laughed at my whole life I would. sit at cafeteria I stopped sitting with. kids I would play chess every day with. my wrestling coach during lunch because. kids would laugh at me every time I S. going be in the UFC everybody would. snuff you know like like like giggle at. it so I just remov myself put myself in.

a better situation I didn't like this. friendship I got out of it I moved to a. place where I could pursue fighting you. know L I found people that were chasing. things themselves right you know so I. think it's just about putting yourself. around the right people. and and constantly wanting to evolve if. you stop evolving pass away that's a. giant part of it putting yourself around. the right people either it's through. watching documentaries about the right. people if you don't have access to the. right people or if you're very fortunate.

like yourself to get to a gym with his. great people and to to live like my gym. is my family you know what I mean my gym. is my family I know I know Sean and [ __ ]. and I always talk about him I always. talk about him because when I joined. that team man I was not in UFC and I. don't think a lot of people had a lot of. faith in me but coach John took me in. never charged me a penny you know and. and I couldn't afford to I couldn't have. afforded it if he did and uh I made the. switch before I even got the second.

surgery you know he cornered me and and. and I feel it like I I feel I I can look. at them and know that they like I they. get emotional too like we're fighting. for something big here right um you know. fighting to change my life still and uh. so there's a big fight coming up this. weekend obviously uh Sean Strickland and. draus dupy what do you think about. that that's your division Vision yeah um. both very beatable that's what I think. um I like Shan Strickland I like sha. Strickland I like d DDP too um I'm I'm.

I'm gonna go the American way I want to. vote I hope the American Boy keeps it. here in America um but uh draus is a. very unusual guy he's a very unorthodox. power puncher like forward but there's a. lot of openings to clip him and he. doesn't have a granite chin in my. opinion he could take a shot but uh like. you like I don't think he's fought. anybody that could test his chin yet so. uh besides that's not true let me shut. up before I get hated on right Robert.

Whitaker was a was a dog but uh he had. Robert Robert's number man he had he had. a good plan and he's deceptively. technical yeah he's just exactly so he. know he knows where I think he's a guy. let's put it this way I think he's a guy. that knows what he's good at and knows. how to get there quick and that's why he. comes out hot cuz he knows how he's. going to wear on you also like yourself. he's very big for the weight class I. haven't seen him in person he's a big. boy he looks like a [ __ ] heavyweight. but you know what I watched this. interview on the way here uh on on the. flight and uh he's not stupid he's a.

smart guy and uh I have respect for I. have respect for all I don't think you. get that far if you're stupid yeah no. you don't you'd be surprised man I mean. there you know there's some dumbass. people in this not at the top yeah not. at the top not the cream of the crop you. don't get to that level you you have to. have some innate form of intelligence. yeah 100% because a lot of intelligence. yes um I have a lot of respect for Shawn. because Shawn when I F Gerald was in the. back and even before I was in the UFC he. said hey you want to come train and I. said no because I knew it was like man.

like I don't like training with people. that I'm going to have to fight right. you know what I mean but I got respect. for him I like his story got crazy style. I don't like listening to him talk uh he. sounds like a drunk person to me so I'm. not like a but well he off also like you. came from a very abusive childhood yeah. no no no and man look at what he's done. it's you know look at what he's done and. he's not he's not a style that you're. like oh my God but you're a style like. man this is unorthodox and it works for. him he knows what he's good at he's.

confident in what he's good at and he's. put himself in the fire against some of. the best yeah to figure out that it. works so um yeah I mean I do think that. DDP has the the bigger advantage in this. fight in what. way in the way that Shawn has been chin. checked a few times uh and I I think. like you know competitively um I think. that Shawn is the easier guy to beat um. if he's a hard guy to hit he's a hard. guy to hit but when you hit him he. reacts big I think uh and I think a.

style like DDP is perfect for it I think. he's gonna make him like it's it's. unorthodox like Shawn you know he could. be standing right there but he's really. good at his range he knows how to you'll. just miss you hit his hands you hit his. forearms um he lifts his leg he keeps. you like standing straight up it's it's. really strange and he's actually a hard. guy to keep down I think people on Sean. Str Jiu-Jitsu abilities right no. Jiu-Jitsu is very high level but yeah I. mean they're both good man that's what I. think I think they're both good but uh. yeah I mean I hope it stay I hope the.

belt stays here in America were you. shocked when DDP beat down Robert. Whitaker like that uh I was I was. surprised that he did it the way he did. it uh I I I didn't count him out um but. I didn't have him winning you know I. mean I definitely thought that it was. going to be close it was going to be. tough I really did a lot of people. counted out I was like that's crazy bro. this guy's not I think he was 20 and2 or. something like that yeah I man this dude. this dude could bring it like he's going. to make it a dog fight and I don't care.

how technical you are when somebody. makes it ugly your your energy level's. down and you're not that technical no. more so uh yeah I mean I thought it was. pretty impressive I was very impressive. I was surprised you could take him down. yeah he's a big guy man yeah I got to. see him man I keep hearing that I want I. want see big I mean he I don't know what. he want you said that when you start. your cut would you walk around at 218. 218 yeah oh wait start my cut fight week. yeah I'll be like 208 okay but when. you're in training before you start any.

cut you're about 218 218 220 and the. heaviest you get is that that's it yeah. that I it's like my cap I won't go any. bigger I'll have to go off a weight. class and and I might in a couple years. you know but I think I would take I. would take the proper time to not be. disrespectful and fight a [ __ ] guy as. big as Johnny Walker or somebody like. that you know anive they're thick bone. thick guys I think a lot of people. underestimate like there's bone density. that comes with a certain size too yes. you know what I mean I would have to. build myself a little more muscular than.

these guys I have the frame to do it um. and uh take like a good six months to a. year to build myself to then make that. move up do you find it increasingly. difficult to get to. 185 I do I do yeah it sucks it's it's. rough so you're it's definitely not 208. the weak of the cut 208 and but I'm. like yeah like I'll show you like what I. look like and are you using uh who are. you using to do this using a. nutritionist and a weight cutting expert.

I'm just yeah I I used the the guy. Castro with ufcpi he's been great and. Charles a little bit okay but ufcpi. those guys are experts but I don't like. I like I keep I keep them updated with. my weight cut as I'm coming down but I. don't do like I don't know how people. [ __ ] water load man I I don't like it. I don't like the water load I do my cut. like I know my body pretty well and uh I. get down but it just it's just I don't. know is your cut primarily sauna or do.

you bike ride with a wet I train twice a. day still yeah I I I sweet sweat uh do a. couple rounds pad work get the get the. sweat flowing do it a couple ground and. pound uh you know wrestling drills and. and then do a couple ground and pound. rounds and then I'll very little water. taking very little water um you know the. proper nutrition to kill the sugar. cravings and the hunger and [ __ ] like. that but yeah I do I've been getting. better and better and better and better. at it um but it's still hard it's still. very hard and do you have a protocol as.

far as rehydration yeah so I've been. drinking whatever the UFC gives me um. like their rehydration and then I'm. really big on like like sodium and. potassium intakes and whatnot obviously. but uh yeah I mean I have a couple. drinks that I that I drink but it's just. like a bpn electrolyte try to get that. back in there try to get as much salt as. possible so I can hold what I'm putting. in my body and what do you try to weigh. day of the fight whatever my body. whatever my body's happy at I don't want. to overeat and I don't want to over. drink where I feel so bloated or I feel.

so heavy but I I probably walk in around. 210 um 208 so I blow. up like by the so when I fought Gerald I. um when I fought Gerald I. was I was I was Heavy I think I was like. 209 when I walked into the cage but by. the time I I faced off with him by 4. p.m. I was like 20:3 20:4 so I was like. I put it on quick and I don't lose it. like I'll wake up the next morning and. and it goes right back to where it needs.

to so I have a good system um and I. think it's only going to get better but. uh but man you know I'm not going to put. it out there but I have never had a. smooth Camp I've never had a smooth camp. and this is going to be no different but. this is where I've been built I've been. built in the fire and you know Jack's a. good dude it's going to be a tough fight. I don't know if anybody has a good camp. they say they have good camps but you. talk to them there's like a rib and a. neck and a knee and everybody across the. States lately though has been sick as.

[ __ ] mhm yeah it's a lot of colds going. around I've been going I've been going. as far as to say somebody's [ __ ]. poisoning us because there's no way that. everybody I [ __ ] know got sick at the. same time and everybody's sick for two. three weeks with it well there's a covid. strain that's going around right now and. then there's the flu I mean it's the. winter and you know what a a lot of that. is is vitamin D deficiency especially. when you're dealing with cold climates. better take some I take vitamin D. vitamin d and vitamin K as well I take.

Vitamin K Vitamin D and I take it with. magnesium because what I was told is if. you don't take magnesium it doesn't mean. [ __ ] it do doesn't mean as much yeah. magnesium is important do you um take. like a suite of nutrients do you know. what to do as far as like how much to. take of this and that do you have some. so I have so I just have like my morning. routine of everything I've taken I got. it from the ufcpi you know they gave me. a sheet and then I've been doing it for. long enough now that it's like I know. what I need so I was ufcpi is such a. great resource it's a great resource. it's so when they first built that I was.

like what are they doing bro I was. [ __ ] blown away when I was out there. for Brendan Allen cornering him I had. never been in the cafeteria I always. heard people talk about it I'm like. where the [ __ ] is it like I never knew. how to get to it oh that's funny oh man. I was so upset I was so mad at myself. I'm like I've been in this [ __ ] for a. year and a half now a year and I didn't. know there was a [ __ ] cafeteria. everybody was going to but me super. healthy food. amazing state-ofthe-art facility the. best stuff for Recovery the best stuff. for training amazing coaches you know. what I will say though so I think it's a. great place I'm not comfortable training.

in a place like that really you like a. dirty I bro I like a [ __ ] R I'm a. ratchet [ __ ] like I bro I'm. wearing [ __ ] sweatpants under this. like Rocky when he fought Drago he's not. in [ __ ] Siberia running with the L. it's not me Joe I don't I got an aura. ring to track my sleep right and and. someone that made that like important to. me was Sean because my my [ __ ] sleep. sucked but now I'm like so conscious. about it Sean's taught me so much man. Sean has taught me so much that's a guy. that needs to slow down in my opinion. I've never seen somebody train that much.

like I picture him as like a [ __ ]. disgruntled old mean [ __ ] like. just like I didn't [ __ ] have it like. he just didn't do anything fun like but. uh but that's not true he does fun [ __ ]. but like he loves working out me it's my. job and I love working out but that's. not all I want to do I want to go [ __ ]. off sometimes race and know ride bikes. and you know Sean wants to train he. wants to do Jiu-Jitsu competitions when. it's all done yeah man yeah he he needs. to get on the sauce when he's done and. get [ __ ] go [ __ ] people up man well I.

mean you think about him beating Craig. Jones in a grappling match and again. they didn't have heel hooks but that's. just because that's the UFC won't allow. that but beating Craig Jones is a. gigantic accomplishment yeah I mean that. guy is Elite in terms of people who just. train grappling and for him a guy who's. training MMA fighting in the the top. Echelon of the UFC he's fighting against. some of the best of the best for him to. go and beat Craig Jones in a straight up. grappling match is that's incredible and.

look right so this exactly it is. incredible and I and that's the Phil row. you owe me money yeah he bailed out of a. of bet he was supposed to you know and. this was years whenever before I was in. the UFC you know I met Phil row playing. with Randy Brown on Call of Duty oh. really yeah playing Call of Duty Randy. Brown that's how I met him I train with. Randy Brown too uh but but yeah no I I. was so confident in Sean being in that. match because like I said I've I've gone. with Cory Anderson I've gone with some. like heavy big dudes and I do well I I.

hold my own I do I do more than that. right like but um man I've never hit. I've never bro I'm lucky if I take this. [ __ ] down like once a month I I. I can't do it you know I mean I'm going. I'm he's Elite Grappler and you really. saw that in the Kelvin Gaston fight. Kelvin can wrestle man and he was just. all over Kelvin I man like kelvin's. kelvin's like a hit or miss man it's so. weird he uh un I think Sean it's just. Kelvin should have been a welterweight. from the jump he should have been but.

did you see the way he was falling yeah. yeah it it looked like he just couldn't. like he it looked like the second Sean. like picked him up or like threw. something he was always so off balance. well he might be dealing with injuries. he's also had a very long career in some. [ __ ] crazy Wars he just had that war. with Chris Curtis he's had Wars with he. look good at Chris Curtis against Chris. Curtis he looked great yeah Chris is a. beast yeah it was a good fight and it's. just you know Kelvin I told Kelvin a. long time ago Dude I go if you're 170 I.

think you you you're a potential world. champion but at 85 the difference. between a guy like you and a guy like. him just the physical frame difference. like adna or paja or any of these really. big 85ers they're just so much bigger. draus the the the difference like. kelvin's my size you're not just. fighting Talent you know let's say the. skill is match now you're fighting size. you're fighting everything Calvin is. fast as [ __ ] with his hands he's got. beautiful float fluid combinations with. his fist like that one two that he.

knocked Bisping out with the. [ __ ] is amazing and the fight. with osna was a war people forget he had. osna in all kinds of trouble he's always. strike he's his bodybuilder has always. been so like it's always been so weird. to me I mean he's Miss weight so many. times and he's he's I don't know just. never looks like he fully committed I. don't know if that's just his genetics. the way he's built but it's like it. doesn't look like he's terribly sucked. out at 70 like he look he looks like he.

went through a cut but like it didn't. look like he lost body fat is what. you're saying didn't look the bit. difference between him and 85 and him at. 70 he like really [ __ ] off maybe in his. diet I don't know there has to be. something going on there yeah I mean. yeah I mean I don't think he's working. with a strict nutritionist it's really. got it all dialing Hey listen like I. told people too and my post fight too. like like that was Sean's first time. being overseas and whatnot and look I he. knows where he's best right I'm not. saying he's I don't think he can I don't.

think he's like the best striker in the. world by any means but I think he's the. best Grappler for MMA by a long shot. it's not just me bro this [ __ ]. can put any of us on our back and you're. not getting up you can see when he's. grappling it's very high level very he. knows what you're doing he knows where. he wants you to go and you think oh I. might get up and then you're stuck and. it's like it's very frustrating I hate. going with them well you could see it in. the fights man you could you you know. someone who really appreciates grappling. I really love watching that guy fight. because it's very high level and his.

striking is very good too you know the. balal fight sucked for him but will. ultimately be good for him in the long. run because it's a it's just a painful. horrible lesson man I I tell I this is. what I I don't care if he gets mad this. is what I'll say I think there was a. certain coach that's no longer on our. team that I never [ __ ] with that. shouldn't have been in his corner and. doesn't know how to [ __ ] like bro he. they didn't he the the main the head. coach the guy that was.

supposed I'm not going to say his name. okay he was supposed to run like give. him a structure tell him what to do you. know like he he he just kind of like. didn't train him and didn't develop a. game plan with him like coach John did. everything coach John's just the. Striking end of it right and obviously. that's where he lost the fight but the. dude shot one time right you shot one. time and that was it you know so I think. Shawn just he had a mental bug and and I. think Shawn's more of like an introvert. where he keeps things to himself and. he's very like his private life is his. private life and you know I can respect.

that versus me I'm outspoken and I I'll. say what I'm feeling and I said it the. week bro I was [ __ ] sad as [ __ ] when. I fought Abdul I didn't turn it on until. I started walking actually that's not. true I didn't turn it on until I saw him. [ __ ] like doing all this like dancing. [ __ ] like I was like you think so huh. and then that's when it turned on right. but some people just can't turn it on. man and I think that was one of those. times where he just wasn't like he was. doing good like it was a back and forth. in the first round then it just got you. also have to give credit to balal bal's.

a a big [ __ ] tough dude you know yeah. I'm not a balal fan I don't have to give. crit tough guy man he a tough guy he. beat my teammate I don't [ __ ] with him. well I get it I understand that but no. but he is tough I hope he gets I hope he. gets the uh you know my feelings for him. aside I hope he gets he's you know how. could he not I don't understand how was. it even a discussion that he doesn't get. the Leon Edwards fight I mean listen if. I was Bala I'd be upset right like I got. poked in the [ __ ] eye I lost my I. lost the fight like yeah like let's run. it back yeah I don't I don't I I don't.

know like Leon's like like saying he's. not going to get it and [ __ ] like that. it's just weird what is Leon saying like. about him not getting it like he doesn't. think he deserves it or some [ __ ] like. that really I think that was when he was. about to fight Colby like they were. saying oh B is going to be next and he. was saying like he doesn't deserve it or. the only way I could see him saying that. as if he s he thinks of pay-per-view. points and then bal's not a big sale. that he's not going to sell a lot of. tickets but who who next there's no one. else there shot well shav Cott but shav.

cot needs surgery he he went into that. fight with Wonderboy [ __ ] up and. that's why he didn't throw any kicks. yeah and then you have who I think look. everybody's angling to try to get Conor. right and for welterweight yeah listen. bro he's small I understand but wouldn't. you take it just just for the money I. mean that's what. Leon sure Leon would feel like he has a. big Advantage you know he's a legitimate. wter Conor and then he'd make a lot of.

money if he could talk Connor into that. but Connor and Chandler is interesting. too you know that I I guess it's. actually going to happen going to happen. at your weight bro which is bananas. listen that's bananas somebody said. something to him about hey like we got a. no name and me I would fight Connor you. won't fight 85 [ __ ] man change my life. I'mma [ __ ] you. up I will [ __ ] that dude up but he's. fighting Chandler 85 who not an 85 I'm. not used to yet Joe the casuals like go.

are you in Conor's weight class you. [ __ ] like what you got to tune out. the casuals you have enough conflict in. your past so that's what that's what I. struggle with I my past I'm cool with. when I it's like I don't think about it. every day you read. comments sometimes because so I'm the. sometimes not all the bro it it. motivates me sometimes does it really it. does it does you really need. motivation I always I think I so yeah I. I do because I don't always want to. fight at I'm not always I'm not fighting.

at an anger in my past I have that anger. because it's just bro it's it's I'm bred. like that that's you're also fighting. out of ambition I'm fighting out of. ambition I'm fighting you know what my. biggest Drive is is like I said that. dream card that dream housee that loved. one that travel life like I I want bro I. want to live life I want I want to see. the world didn't have when you young I'm. scared. bro I'm scared to grow old and never see. what this world has and I mean like. sights wise like I want to go to Ireland. I want to go to Switzerland I want I.

want to go see places I hear you and uh. you'll see those things yeah man I. really believe it right I don't read the. comments I I did almost fight one of the. fans I did I I tried bro I tried to get. him to come to the gym I was like man. this would be great [ __ ] content. right like but then I was like man it's. corny and uh I actually think that guy. would have follow through he was that. [ __ ] stupid there's a lot of dummies. they there's so many videos of guys. showing up at gyms and online Internet. trolls getting head kicked there so many.

of them I just watched some recent one. with some guy went into a Muay Tha gym. and the dude hit him with a leg kick and. then [ __ ] shinned him in the. head oh yeah oh yeah I mean he. brutalized him with a lead kick and then. the guy didn't move right and then step. back boom head kick and flatlined him. just some dumbass internet like that's. that like on that subject that's hard. right like I'll read the comments. sometimes cuz I'm Petty like I went back. after I beat Abdul and I was like yeah. talk that [ __ ] now like say something.

you know I mean just to those few I. saved three particular comments saved I. did and I went back I went back Joe. that's so crazy yeah well I'm an. elephant bro when you hurt you don't. forget so but nothing you get taught to. deal with right is. is what to say when not to say people. always give their opinion like even. before coming on here don't talk about a. certain thing because I have my beliefs. right so we stay in a safe space we can. talk about all there's a plenty of. things what are people telling you not. to talk about oh well you don't talk.

about politics you don't talk about. people's parents you don't talk about. religion [ __ ] like that you know what I. mean I would say don't talk about other. people's parents that's a good one but. politics and religion that's just a part. of life anybody says you shouldn't talk. about politics well that's the thing. though if I give my political view on. this it's like it opens up a door not. you know you'll get a lot of new like. people but it opens up the door for all. these other wide it's such a diverse. like such a controversial argument it's. like I'll have this conversation when. you off camera all day long I got my.

beliefs I think you know where I'm at. but it's like uh yeah I mean it's just. certain things you don't well this is a. very divided country more so than I'm 56. and never in my life have I seen this. country more divided crazy that's crazy. never you look like you [ __ ] figured. out how to reverse time man you're. talking about me being big you're. [ __ ] wider than me me I stay healthy. yeah trt and a lot of vitamins and I'm. always doing something I I'm very active. in taking care of my body you wish you. fought no no I you wish you had a fight.

I had kickboxing fights I had three. kickboxing fights and I had about a 100. Taekwondo fights and uh I [ __ ] spin. back kick bro I'm not [ __ ] I'm must. stay out of range on that I. unfortunately also came up in a gym that. didn't Spar smart. we sparred hard we fought it was like a. lot of Knockouts when did you start I. started martial arts when I was 15. that's when I started seriously I took a. little bit of it before I took karate.

when I was 14 I [ __ ] around a little. bit before that but when I was 15 I. became obsessed and you know just wasn't. really good at anything other than art I. was a good was a good artist but it was. nothing that really made me feel like I. was a special person until I started. doing martial arts then when I started. winning and I became obsessed I was. training every day and I started getting. really good winning tournaments and then. I I realized like oh I'm not a loser I. just never figured out what to do and.

now I found a thing to do and I know. that if I just work hard I can be. exceptional and I can get better at it. but I was also when I was making the. transition into kickboxing there was. first of all there was no money this is. we're talking 1988 there's no money in. it and uh there's no money in kickboxing. I wasn't a good boxer I didn't have a. lot of boxing experience and some of the. guys that I was training with were going. into boxing particular this one kid uh. Dana rosenblad who went on to be the New. England middleweight champion he beat.

Vinnie Penza he beat Howard Davis Jr who. Penza fought uh Roy Jones yes yeah yeah. he was the only guy broken neck yeah. well he did he broke his neck in a car. accident um but when I was watching. those guys one of the things that I was. seeing was brain damage and I was seeing. guys where I knew him from five years. ago and then I know him now and I was. noticing slurring a slowness to the way. they were thinking and you know I was. just seeing there people didn't just. Spar they fought in the gym and you know.

there's a lot of that from the early. days of MMA as well you know particular. like shoot the Box those guys just beat. the [ __ ] out of each other like the old. miliage Fighters those guys beat the. [ __ ] out of each other there was a lot. of camps where the amount of damage like. I've talked to sha about this too about. him training with like Shane Carwin and. those guys back in the day in Denver. they beat the [ __ ] out of each other and. is the damage that you take in the gym. that [ __ ] counts it's it's real yeah and.

in that way I'm glad I didn't cuz I. already I started seeing I you know I. was a lot of headaches and that kind of. [ __ ] early on and I was like and there. was no future I didn't have a future in. fighting there was no it didn't exist so. when the UFC came along uh which was uh. 1993 I'd already stopped fighting I was. already doing stand-up comedy but I was. like oh they figured it out this is it. somebody figured it out because it back. then it was always like how do you make.

a living as a martial artist if you want. to compete there's no money you have to. open up a school the only thing you. could do is teach at a school and then. compete in tournaments and there's no. money in the tournaments but then when. the UFC came along also we realized like. how much of what people were doing was. nonsense how much of what people were. doing was wasted time so that's how it. was when Eddie was coming up it was like. barroom brawl type [ __ ] training yeah. and that's that's how I grew up when I. seen it and I was bro my dad used to be. pitting me at 12 years old against 16.

year olds and I remember I [ __ ]. thought my head was bleeding I'm sure. and probably was you know that that kind. of training it teaches you how to be. tough and how to deal with like a real. fight and you definitely get more. comfortable with really throwing but the. consequences of those shots that you. receive and training are legitimate you. know Jerry Quarry you know who he is f. famous boxer fought Muhammad Ali back in. the day just a crazy tough dude who just. walked forward and just ate punches and.

took a beating just a tough tough dude. well he had a bunch of fights and at the. end of his life he was a vegetable he. was just gone yeah well his brother only. had like one pro fight I think and his. brother never had a pro career his. brother was just as [ __ ] up as he was. at the end of his life and all from the. gym all from just gym Wars you know I. was I was watching this uh video last. night on Wilford bitez and uh they were. talking about W wifredo Bitz during his.

day was just an insanely select boxer. you know turned Pro when he was 17 was a. world champion shortly after that was. incredible defensive boxer out of Puerto. Rico and at the end of his life man. where he is now like he's bedridden he's. a vegetable basically that's him now I. mean it's so hard to see shame yeah I I. heard last fright of Wolford Bonita man. the pride of Puerto Rico the alien. boxing gra is now fully dependent on his.

sister who watches over him their humble. apartment Ian so that's exactly another. reason right like when you want to talk. about what we were talking about me. going 200 M hour yeah I could go into. like that [ __ ] I don't like reading that. stuff because that sits in the back of. my mind too I don't want to be a [ __ ]. vegetable of course right but I'm not. and I'm not knocking our pay but we. don't make what any other professional. athlete makes well you do at the high. end at the high end right but you know.

I'm three fights in I'm fortunate to be. getting a main event and I I don't know. but I I was told that there's only one. other person that's done that in my. division and I don't know who it is and. I want to know who it is I don't know. but obviously there's a [ __ ] ton of hype. on you you know you've got a lot of lot. of a great hype on you which is which. you know what's crazy doesn't do. anything to me like I don't feel like I. think DC didn't believe me at first when. I was I made my debut when I got in UFC.

the weight on my shoulders dropped now. there's another weight that comes on. right the expectation and things like. that that I hold myself to but I'm like. man like I don't give a [ __ ] if there's. a thousand people if there's zero people. if there's 50,000 people it doesn't. phase me I don't care about that I'm so. like locked in on your face like that's. that that's what I want like you. [ __ ] like you are the second. half of my paycheck I'm coming for you. like and uh I think sometimes that's. where you have really talented guys that.

don't know how to get past the the. lights the cameras the it's a big moment. it's a you see it all the time Fighters. when they make that UFC debut some guys. just rise to the occasion and you see. them better than they've ever been. before in the UFC debut cuz they belong. there they're Champions they just have. to and then there's other guys that get. dwarfed by the moment the moment hits. him and they just wof well you know. what's crazy is like the moment hits you. like it's a weird feeling. when it's so different even for me. sitting as a fan.

watching like you don't realize what. that person's going through when you. walk out and it's like a cold sweat. because it's a [ __ ] big ass building. like AC it's like that cold sweat but. you're kind of hot and then you [ __ ]. realize when you're in there it's like. everything's like so Amplified and. you're like [ __ ] man like I'm about to. get into a fist fight. yeah but then that's where you make that. decision like once that finally hits. your brain which we all have it it's. like you either can hone in on what. you're about to do or you can hone in on. the fact that like you don't feel like. being there right and one of the things.

that I've come to terms with is I think. that changed my trajectory of my career. and the way I fought because if you. watch my early fights like I would just. go out there and try to like Blitz and. get out of there and like just [ __ ] you. up and knock you out and get out like. that's what I wanted to do I don't look. I don't force trying to knock people out. I don't force to finish I don't. I just try to wear and then catch you I. know I need one in my head I'm convinced. you could be Francis nanu I think I need. one that's I wholeheartedly believe that.

I don't and then you got the other. aspect of Fighters that convince. themselves oh I can knock somebody out. but it just but they don't truly believe. it it's different yeah there's a. difference between coaching yourself to. believe it and actually [ __ ]. believing it well you have extraordinary. power you know and what I was saying. about the rosak alassan fight is that. you showed another level of poise in. that fight it was another level of. technique it was another level of like. there again it's like it's very. difficult for a fighter to express. themselves at like you know when a guy's.

on in the gym and you just go. [ __ ] look at that dude they just. sometimes guys just look like they're on. fire they're timing they're everything. look a world beater you're like who. could beat that dude right who could. beat that dude and then it's very. difficult to express that inside the. Octagon so when you hear a lot of great. things about Fighters and then you see a. performance you got to go okay they got. to get over the anxiety they got to get. over the pressure they got to get over. the experience boundary because you do. need experience in front of different.

styles no matter what no matter how well. you train and how good your training. partners are you need live experience. against really talented fighters to. really develop to your full potential. and in the the rosok fight I saw it with. you I was like okay he hit another he. hit another level yeah I wish I wish. I'm I I was that was a tough fight it. was it was a it was a scary fight to. take because he was technically behind. me and he had all Knockouts right you. know so that's there's that in the back.

of your head there's that fear like a. [ __ ] like he can clip anybody he can. clip anybody right but you know I and at. the in the same token I I just kept it. very small like I didn't buy into that. it was like bro you're you're a. middleweight short guy that is coming up. to a weight you don't belong that's my. opinion do you think that he should be. 170 100% yeah he does not belong 185 he. and he doesn't he's not the leanest guy. at 185 he's a thick spark plug built. type style he's a fire hydrant right. like he he is a big man at. 170 um I just think he's lazy I think.

he's lazy that's that's my opinion. because yeah the fact that I took you. down that easy the fact that I kept you. down that easy bro I put that choke in. pretty basic and I felt him will I think. the slam really was like what the [ __ ]. mhm and then he got slammed again you. know there's such a difference size. there's such a difference in size and I. I've advocated many times for multiple. weight classes I think I think the jump. between 70 and 85 is too high and I. think the jump between 855 and 205 is. way too high 20 lbs is so big it is it's.

so there's so I mean obviously paja. pulls it off but he5 would be sweet ass. class I think I think you get the. perfect you get the height at so I I. it's funny every fighter will contest to. say that their division is the best but. I think the the perfect athlete is my. size the height the power the power the. the explosiveness everything if you can. I think I do like a yoel Romero like.

that that you get a taller guy I mean. he's not the tallest right but you get a. even a Paul Costa like you look at their. build like I think that's the perfect. mix between a Not Too Tall just the. right height big explosive high volume. heavy weights yeah but still crazy. knockout power yeah yeah yeah but that. but that's just me um no I see that. argument 85 is obviously a very deep. division too because there's a big size. difference between 70 and 85 it's a big. difference which is the Calvin argument. like when you know but then when Calvin.

went down to 170 and but Sean's a big. one [ __ ] 70 too his back looks like. it's two people's backs St one no Sean. Brady oh Brady bro he has bro he's just. chest dick and legs it's insane his back. is like layers of bricks he's an ape. yeah he it literally his lats like sit. like he's got so much what you would. call like squeeze power yeah you know. you can see all that squeeze that's. exactly it like this [ __ ] when he gets. you in something you think man he's. squeezing with everything he's got and.

then it just keeps going and it keeps. going it keeps going it's like what the. [ __ ] his back it's like these layers of. like muscle that it's just when he's. like walking it's ridiculous he's got an. extra back on top of his back it's I. don't know what the [ __ ] I don't know he. deadlifts more than me squats more than. me [ __ ] him I don't like big [ __ ] dude. but when you look at a guy like that. like that's a legit 170 like that that. guy at 170 is a [ __ ] terrifying Force. like a kamaro Usman at 170 that's a. terrifying force and if you're 20 pounds.

heavier than that you know you know. who's a freak at 70 though Andy uh not. Andy Randy Brown oh yeah that's a tall. boy he he he could box man he could box. I was so mad at the way that we. literally say like yo don't exit don't. exit you can't exit with your hands down. bro like he's going to swing bombs over. hands he's got to reach you [ __ ] did. it man like yeah I think they H it. happens yeah it happens you know Jaylen. Turner is another one like that dude at. 155 that is crazy I I was so I love.

Bobby green I watched him for years I. was so mad at that that was horrible but. he did his job well that referee though. that referee should have stopped that. fight 10 15 punches earlier yeah the. referee's I don't know who it was but I. don't know what happened they're good. that guy I don't want to say his name. but ordinarily he's good I don't know. what happened people [ __ ] up they make. mistakes yeah happens give a guy a. chance you know you think the guy's. going to survive it's like we were. watching the Jose Lis Castillo fight. it's like it's a tough job to be in like. to know when to call it because you.

don't want to take that opportunity from. somebody like uh what was the one fight. Yuri praska and Alex yeah man I was. pissed watching it I was like yo like. let him [ __ ] try he's still moving. he's still moving and Yuri has shown the. ability to recover like the Dominic Rey. has fight he was out on his feet recover. Yuri's a bad man man I I I I love that. that re when he's screaming out in the. wild yeah bro I've done that in my truck. like bro but how funny was Jamal Hill. Jamal Hill like when Yuri did that thing.

like like he was out like I'm coming oh. yeah I'm coming he's like was what she. said that's what she said Jamal Hill is. cool he's hilarious he's funny as [ __ ]. I'm excited about his return him against. paja that is a very exciting fight yeah. he had that I think he beats him he. might I think he beats him bro I think. he's deceptive he looks fluffy MH but. he's quick and he's got snap he well. what he did to Glover toar Glover toar. is bad man bro that dude did not want to.

lose no that's a man that wanted it he's. a bad man and and Jamal put it on him. yeah he put it on Jamal is so good at. finding your [ __ ] chin he's just he's. just got this range intelligence this. intelligence of when to strike and when. like the he's just there's so many of. his fights where you watch the movement. he's like a snake charmer yeah like he. knows how to put it on you yeah you know. the Johnny Walker one like when. everybody said that Jamal doesn't hit.

hard what the [ __ ] are you talking about. what what the [ __ ] you talking that is. the weirdest [ __ ] knockout I've ever. seen I thought he was [ __ ] I thought. but he went he went yeah he like bent. forward and then flew back and I was. like I've never seen some dumb [ __ ] like. that ever Johnny has been knocked out a. lot and the thing is like when a guy. gets knocked out a lot it's like you got. to wonder how much he's got his nose. broken yeah how analiia was a bad man. that's a thick dude man that's what I. was talking about when I was saying like. yo you got different bone densities like.

that's a thick guy well then you got to. think of uh yanovich Yan bovich went. Shin to Shin with that dude and [ __ ]. his legs up like Yan bovich is made out. of rocks like that [ __ ] dude is and. that's another one like buil like. SpongeBob SquarePants whena went up to. 205 like that guy was too big yeah he's. too big that's a giant jump man that's a. giant jum you think is he comes back. 2027 or sooner I you know I think sooner. I think sooner I think you know you say. things like that because your body's.

beat up he went through so many camps in. a row he defended his title more than. any other Champion so active as a champ. so active you're gonna get and then I. [ __ ] think he just didn't I think he. slept on Shawn a little bit I think he. burnt out I think it was a little bit of. that but also think I think he thought. wasn't on his level I thought he I think. thought he was going to piece him up the. way he did with Paulo Costa that he was. just going to go piece him up but Shawn. is so hard to hit he's so you know they. did that thing with the UFC where they I.

think it's a mouthpiece where it. registers how many times you get hit. Shan spars more than anybody and he gets. hit less than anybody which is pretty. extraordinary that style is very sneaky. yeah you know and it's I know the Philly. shell I don't do it the same way he does. but it's weird to see someone do it in m. no one else does it he walk it doesn't. it just looks odd but he's always but he. also doesn't dip mhm so I think that's. that's kind of like a part of his. defense like right A lot of people that.

do the Philly show like me sometimes. I'll dip into a certain side and it's. like he just kind of stands straight and. and leans and either puts his arms out. yeah guess the problem with dipping with. kicks is like kick your face off man. yeah you Zig when you should have zagged. and that Shin's coming at you and this. you know I mean it's there's so many. [ __ ] good fights to be had right now. there's so many good fights that are. coming up you know one what I'm really. [ __ ] excited about is Vulcan offski. versus Ilia Toria Ilia is I like. watching Ilia box bro that's a bad man.

he hunts the body love it he's a bad man. and and he's a guy that knows how to. take it too if you watch that ji Herbert. fight where he got caught he got head. kicked bad he still came back yeah and. as at 55 too I do think IL 4 I do think. IL wins I do yeah we we have like a me. and Sean do like a little uh little tiny. like podcast on picking fights and just. this is a situation I wanted to talk to. you about this because there's a lot of. different philosophies on this I. understand why Usman took that last.

minute fight against hanza and I. understand why volkanovski took that. last minute fight against makev and as a. fan when I was at home and they. announced that the CH those changes I. was like oh [ __ ] but the reality is you. need a. you are not the same guy with 10 days. notice as you are with 10 weeks notice. you are just not the same guy and when. you look at the vulcanos that fought. makev the first time that was a guy who.

went through a full [ __ ] camp and was. a plus rip ready to go full gas tank. let's [ __ ] go the guy let alone what. it does for you mentally yes yes you. have to go through that suffering to. know that you were built strong enough. to withstand what you're about to go. through and I won't take no [ __ ]. short notice fight I'll die I don't. think you should either I don't think. any I really don't think anyone should. even though I like them when they make. them I'm a hypocrite I won't do it cuz. as a fan I'm like Oho I can't wait to. see this you could be a hypocrite as.

long as you're being a fan but it's if I. was in usman's corner if Kamar was my. friend and and I'd say don't do it don't. do it I think you beat that guy with a. camp yeah I mean even at 85 I think he. could beat that guy because if you look. at the third round he was coming out. strong yeah coms that was done and he. didn't have a camp at all yeah I think. there's a difference a. giant difference it's not like a 5%. difference I think it's like a 25%. difference probably even more than that. and when you look at makev first of all. makev is a [ __ ] monster he's a.

monster you do not want to fight that. guy when he's gone through a full camp. in dagistan rip ready to go and he had. adjusted to vulcanos style he had a. completely good solution he had a. perfect solution the kicks to the body. he was throwing those kicks to the body. set up that head kick he took away. volkanovski's leg kicks from the outside. he took away all the [ __ ] that. volkanovski was doing to him that was. troubling him in the first fight and he. imposed his will on him that's often the. problem right you go you take a short. notice fight sure now everybody will sit.

here and say man that guy's got balls. and then that rides offense in a Sunset. and that's all you got for or you get. asol Tom Aspen wins the title on short. minutes fight short short notice fight. and couldn't even Spar his Rib was all. [ __ ] up he couldn't even train. couldn't wrestle and he's fighting. Sergey who's a monster he's a monster. but I think they blew him up they blew. Sergey up I think they blew him up yeah. because they need they needed the next. crazy punching power guy well he does. have that he definitely does but you. also have to look at the aler overing.

fight we all knew he had like yeah I. mean honestly Alister yes Alister did. and exposed his wrestling and things. like that but I mean Alister is the guy. that's the steroid argument like that's. the guy yeah that's the guy for. legalizing ster that's a [ __ ] I. remember I I remember I was so like. excited we couldn't afford to [ __ ]. buy it but I was like when him and Brock. Lesnar fought and I was like man I just. remember like the hype video and I was. like yo these are two [ __ ] giants. like Brock was huge and but then again.

Brock probably shouldn't have taken that. fight either because Brock was just a. few months out of a diverticulitis. surgery where he had to get a a length. of his colon or his uh intestine removed. I mean God man I've never anything in. the body like that from Alis who's a K1. GR pre- champion and juice to the tits. at 260 yeah Alister was hug do you think. that do you he was [ __ ] huge man do. you think that the.

heavyweight do you think the heavyweight. limit should be 285 no I don't think. there should be a limit I don't either I. don't think it makes any sense we don't. have a super heavyweight class I say. anything above 330s too much why let him. fight because then you're going to get. some fat [ __ ] that ain't so let. that guy sing let that guy get [ __ ] up. by Francis fair enough but I don't think. you should cut weight I think you should. be like a heavyweight in boxing like. when um Andy Ruiz fought Joshua terrible. in the second fight he was so fat he was.

280 pounds but that's just what you are. that's it this is heavyweight. heavyweight is heavyweight this idea of. a super heavyweight class we've never. utilized it there's a weight class above. 265 why do you think W do it there's. nobody there who's there. even like a 195 a 175 I don't know they. don't listen to. me yeah clearly if it was me I would do. two things very very early on if it was.

my decision and it it would [ __ ]. throw everything in the chaos but. ultimately be better for the sport. number one thing I would do is more. weight classes I would say minimum every. 10 lbs I agree with that I and at the. lighter weight classes you could go 5. lbs look at what boxing does boxing is. you know 126 130 135 like they they they. go I think it would be the cleanest or. organization to have every 10 poundsound.

but without like boxing there's four. different [ __ ] belts at each weight. class or whatever it is well there is. kind of in the UFC you know I mean. people respect obviously uh Johnny eblin. is like one of the best middleweights on. the planet Earth without a doubt and. unfortunately he's fighting at Bellator. and the Casual has no idea who he is but. the guy's a monster and then he just got. announced to fight um. impa yes he me and impa fought in the. same Contender series when I broke my. arm and he won I like impa impa's a. great guy and unfortunately he's at the.

wrong end of that highlight kick from. wae waim Buckley hit him with the one of. the craziest kicks of all time that jump. spinning back kick while he was holding. his left leg that was wild yeah that was. that was wild and wae is another one. that dude at one 70 is a [ __ ] problem. and he's a guy who was who was a big. muscular guy who decided to fight at 85. and was beating a lot of guys at 85 cuz. he's so powerful but you see him at 170.

his gas tank is crazy his skills look. like he's on another level I know he was. salty I told him in the back before I. beat up doors I'm going to take that. bonus from. you they were talking [ __ ] off me when I. walked in the [ __ ] Pi though oh yeah. so yeah but me me and Buckley are cool. but I lovecky yeah he was like man be. Joe Piper andd was like man [ __ ] Joe. Piper I was like Ah that's how you feel. all right but yeah it was funny Well's. funny wae at 170 is a real Force he's a. real force and I think uh as he moves up.

in the rankings at 170 I think that's. his real weight class so here's the. thing though when I look at a guy like. Buckley and he you know hopefully he. watches this or he doesn't watch this. and get offended but how does he Fair. against somebody like. uh like you still got Kevin Holland who. whooped him he did he whooped him at 185. but I think the in all fairness I think. uh walk is a way better fight he's a way. better fighter now at 170 now look you. get better you keep the dude is driven.

as [ __ ] he's constantly training he's. getting better everybody gets better or. they don't and when they don't you see. that too you see see against a guy like. Jeff Neil type of deal I think that. would I like Jeff Neil well dude Jeff. Neil is another guy go back and watch. his balal Muhammad fight he pieced up. balal back in the day Jeff Neil was the. Dark Horse when he knocked out Mike. Perry when he hit him with that head. kick Jeff Neil is a [ __ ] when. he's on I think he's the one that put. Mike Perry's [ __ ] nose on the other. side of I thought it was too but Mike. corrected me online it was Vicente luk.

Vicente luk did that to his yeah yeah. yeah yeah meanwhile Mike Perry at bare. knuckle boxing is one of [ __ ]. dangerous human beings ever yeah he's. specifically designed for Bare knuckle. fighting like that guy is like uniquely. qualified to Lorenzo hunt you know him. yeah I beat him did you choked him. unconscious my thir third yeah my third. or fourth Pro fight ah he said man. that's somebody's kid that's somebody's. kid and I chok yeah I didn't throw a.

single [ __ ] punch he came out threw a. wild right head took him down choked him. out he's a very good bar knuckle Boxer. that was my first introduction cuz I was. still kind of undersized at middleweight. he was my first introduction to like an. old head that was like 33 34 that had. like [ __ ] grown man strength m you. seen that motherfucker's head his shit's. like this [ __ ] big yeah he's Stout. yeah yeah he's I fighting is not getting. the respect that it deserves you know I. think it's too brutal for the common. people yeah I think so I think you're.

probably right but I'm I'm a big fan of. uh the Juggernaut he's a beast yeah I I. love watching those guys too it's just. cuz it's such a hard way to do it it's. such a hard way to do it I mean bare. knuckle boxing is [ __ ] rough you see. when rockold quit when Mike Perry. blasted his teeth out he's like that's. it bro honestly Rock hold is the biggest. disappointment to me I used to be one of. my favorite Fighters and he's just like. I didn't realize how [ __ ] socially. stupid he is in an interview it's the. worst [ __ ] I've ever listened to yeah.

you better I'm I'm coming yeah it's like. you don't know what the [ __ ] to say well. in his prime the man was a monster he. [ __ ] monster in his prime when he beat. up Chris wman and won the title that was. a crazy fight and then he just kind of. like fell off ever since Mike [ __ ]. checked his [ __ ] I think Mike ruined him. bisbing yeah I think Mike [ __ ] broke. him man well that was a bad loss and to. fight bisbing on short notice and be. like super cocky there's a thing about. being confident and being delusional or.

overconfident or not respecting your. opponent and you know everybody deserves. it yeah I don't know if that's what. happened with osna and Strickland I. think Strickland is just that good I. really do think I don't think I don't. think Izzy like Sid stepped them as much. as we think I just think I think people. don't understand when you're in there. and you got a guy that that never. [ __ ] takes a step backwards it froze. you off you never can plant right so. you're not hitting your power shots. you're not doing the damage that you. would if you were dictating you're not. going on your terms when you're going.

backwards the whole time and that's. that's why I think DDP has a a good. chance because he's gonna fight for that. Center to walk forward right he's a guy. that walks forward Shawn walks forward I. just think because DDP kind of Falls. over his knee when he attacks I think. he's going to get Shawn to move back but. for how long we'll see I'm very. interested to see who prevails I think. he does well early the aboose fight. aboose magedov fight I think that fight. was one of the most impressive fights of. Strickland fight I do too I think it was. underwhelming to people though aboose. comes out in that first round like a bat.

out of hell but he just gassed out Ian. he would gassed out at the end of the. first round y he was throwing bombs he. was trying to take him out I think. aboose was just so used to taking guys. out that he thought he could just put it. on Shawn and he was hitting Shawn with. [ __ ] fire yeah he was hitting that. dude's good man he's good but Sean just. wilted him he just wilted him he doesn't. get tired it's crazy when you and when. you have a guy who spars as much as. Shawn because the bulk of Shawn's. training is sparring and he spars hard.

he's so accustomed to that that that's. really like a fight all the time he. knows himself very well he knows what. he's good at and he knows what he likes. he knows what works for him so why fix. what's not broken you know so um how do. you think what do you think osna does. when he comes back like who does he. fight like he he not going to fight. Paulo Costa he's still ranked right of. course like but why wouldn't you take. him out of the rankings if he's saying. he's not coming back for three four. years cuz he's not really right so but. that that's why I'm asking that is like.

I don't think he's gonna sit out that. long either like three years is crazy. that would be a crazy thing to do I mean. unless look I haven't talked to him he. may have like real injuries that need. like real he fought like we said he. fought so much he was active I think I. think that this fight happens this. weekend and I think maybe one or two. more title fights whoever is holding it. um I think if DDP wins there's a chance. he slids in to fight dricus um just.

because of all that sh it could be and. also Hamza you got to wonder where. hamzat fits in that I mean obviously ham. beatman they might they might well he's. got Superstar power yeah I mean honestly. like I I get like nervous watching him. like it with excitement yeah because I. love watching him it's it's his face. it's the way he looks it's his Persona. he's like doing this [ __ ] smiling at him. the beginning of the fight he looks evil. he uh he he's got the look of somebody. that like man this motherfucker's about.

it and he is he's he's tough he's a. gangster man he goes out there and he. does his game and you know he's not a. quitter but uhia injured shares timeline. for full-time return to training camp. last time look return sooner than many. expected although his current rehab. schedule doesn't make UFC 300 fight look. very likely okay so he is talking about. coming back so when it says he's injured. does it share what the injury is. specific I was just looking to hopefully. share that but it doesn't say specific. yeah I think there's stuff that he's. been dealing with so I I got this injury.

and it'll take a while to recover a long. time to recover and whatnot like I'm. like what are you telling I'm a smart. coach who knows the injury exists we'll. try to use it against you so he's not. going to tell anybody what the injury is. is so far I'm recovering very well and. I'm on track if he's got something. that's that big that that's either like. knees or back or neck generally. generally or you know could be other. joints but generally when when someone's. got a significant injury like that and. they need a lot of time off it could be.

a back thing it could be a knee thing. could be a gastrointestinal thing yeah. you never know I mean I think I think. that's like I had a lot of struggles. with like stomach problems like did you. yeah man I was just I always felt like I. had like this crazy acid feeling in my. stomach it said is's aiming to get back. in the gym training hard by the end of. February uh that doesn't bode well for. fans hoping UFC uh 300 in April no I. don't think he's going to be at UFC 300. but he might be in the June card when. Conor returns you know they're going to.

need they're going to want to Stack that. card up how do you think that goes well. I don't like it that it's at 85 is it. actually confirmed at 85 I don't know I. know he said that he's drinking wine and. talking [ __ ] with a Rolex on like who. knows who knows bro that man drinks he. does that man that man does some stuff. but I don't I I don't see that's like. and he's also He's getting older as well. and he's also coming off the sauce right. so he gets on the sauce to and rightly. so to recover from that bone injury it's.

a significant injury you snap your femur. and your your your tibio rather in your. fibula you snap those in half and your. ankles dangling that's a long road back. and it's been two years now plus and you. know if he really is going to fight in. June and he maybe just doesn't want to. cut any weight and he walks around at 85. so what I was saying earlier this. there's two things I would do one is. every 10 pounds two I would try to. figure out a way to stop weight cutting. I would try to figure out a way to get.

fighters to fight at I think almost. killing yourself 24 hours before you. fight in the cage is insane almost. killing yourself by dehydration is. insane I think they should figure out. what guys actually weigh when they are. low body fat hydrated and say this is. your weight class and this happens. because there's not enough weight. classes right and don't you think like. they could instead of having fights. scheduled at 155 and 170 and 185 what.

about more catchweight fights what about. more guys fighting at what their natural. weight is I don't understand why they. don't do catchweight fights because. there's so many like interesting. matchups one of them was always the GSP. versus uh Silva Anderson Silva um but. Silva is losing weight to get to 185. yeah and GSP when he went up to fight. 185 when he fought Bisping he had to put. a bunch of weight on it was a struggle. for him he was eating like six times a. day he got sick he was like throwing up.

all the time he's like he's trying to. eat so much food just to maintain the. mass I think that those fights are. exciting like super fights where guys go. up a weight class or down a weight class. but I think the the re the real way to. do this is to reshape the sport where. you cut what I call sanction cheating. out everybody's doing it there's nothing. wrong with doing it don't get me wrong. but the fact that you don't really weigh. 185 but you fight at 185 pounds like. when I interview you and you're 185 I'm.

like how when I interview draus I'm like. how how are you 185 it doesn't make any. sense you're not 185 you're [ __ ] P. P's [ __ ] huge how are you 185 you're. not 185 this is nonsense you're really. at 22 5B man that's what you look like. that's what you are and that's really. what the weight that you should be. fighting at and I think guys would fight. better I think they would have le less. deterioration of their endurance over. the course of a five round fight if they. weren't [ __ ] radically dehydrated 24.

hours ago it's just it's it's avoidable. that's that's that the other part of it. too like people that walk around like. let's say I walked around at 85 well if. I fight 85 I'm undersized I'm walking. around 85 you got [ __ ] people cutting. down now I'm not that big Frankie. Edgar's the last guy that did that. Frankie Edgar is the last guy that was a. champion that walked around at 155 and. fought at 18 155 alwaysed BJ Penn and. Gray Maynard and beat all these guys at. his natural weight but that's really not.

where he and he wound up at the end of. his career at 135 which is really. probably where he should have been all. along yeah but you know trying to. convince guys to do that when there's. guys like you that are cutting the. weight that are massive for that weight. glass it's crazy you would never do it. you shouldn't do it [ __ ] had the. weight class I'm tired of [ __ ]. cutting weight I hate they should had. the weight class they should have 185. 195 205 maybe 215 22 you should have. seen me early in my career like I said I. was 174 fighting at 185 I was skinny as.

[ __ ] I've always been skinny I'm still. kind of SK what did you do to put the. weight on did you do so this is where I. get to plug my guy right so I never had. a strength add conditioning coach ever. ever and when I got into so I was. sitting at of light one day coming back. from Philadelphia practice. uh at Marquez and at the light this guy. is like yo he's like you're your pip for. right I was like yeah and he's like you. should come by my gym one day and I was. like he like I was like kind of like. like nah probably not like what the [ __ ]. like I don't even know you wind up I.

winded up going wind up hitting him up. like yo do you do personal training he's. like yeah of course his name's Adam. Ferris he owns a gym called Pursuit uh. it's right in Washington Township like. right around where I live right I worked. with him we didn't do anything crazy. anything hard or anything I was skinny. as [ __ ] still cuz I just came off of. being you know having two surgeries and. all that stuff I was still on the road. back and uh after I won my 50 Grand. bonus and I won my debut I was still. super skinny yeah I think DC interviewed.

me you interviewed me once and it was. Miami so from that time when I won my. debut I was still skinny and I didn't. have a chance to ever have like a power. program because I took a fight a month. after I won the contract so and then I. didn't have a chance to have a. weightlifting program because IID had a. comeback fight and then I broke my ankle. so I never got a long enough period to. build my body back and I also didn't. have a strength coach like I just for. some reason I never thought I needed one. I made it to the UFC on the first before.

I continue I made it to the contender. series hitting pads three days a week. with the man that I brought Sam warisa. who had a full-time job and we would do. it at 5: a.m. three days a week I. wrestled with my my one of my best. friends um who literally was only a. wrestler had no MMA experience and he. was like 5'7 and he was just like a. Sauced [ __ ] wrestler and that's it I. literally and I spar with and I spar. with Cory Anderson once a week wow. that's it that's how I made it that's. how I was making all these fights and I.

was knocking everybody out and doing all. this so now that I have structure now. that I actually have a system with. Marquez I have Jiu-Jitsu with Jonathan. Webb like you know I'd be [ __ ] Gerald. mirart the middleweight submission. highest [ __ ] whatever dude got waxed. like didn't even come close to beating. me you know so I my Jiu-Jitsu is. underrated and my wrestling is. underrated but I think it will come to. light you know with with a guy like Jack. but um so you started the strength. conditioning progr the strength. conditioning program so what kind of. stuff are you doing so man like I was.

doing a power program so I do like a six. to eight week power program Deads squats. and and and bench but bench is kind of. [ __ ] cuz uh I care more about the. explosive rep right like that's what we. care about because I'm just not putting. more than 275 on a bench with my elbow. right it's just not worth it it's not. worth the risk it's not worth the the. nerve pain it just doesn't make sense. for me so um I'd be deadlifting a [ __ ]. and I was squatting a [ __ ] ton I always.

wanted thick legs I never had it um and. then now I started putting on size and I. wanted my back I've always had a real. big back like strong back like wide and. uh so yeah I mean we were doing we were. doing a power program and then we would. go right into like explosiveness and. jumps and ladder drills and just doing. real simple movements but a lot of. functionality like a lot of core. twisting a lot of Med ball slams a lot. of kle bell stuff and um yeah that's my. coach right there Adam Ferris dude a.

hole in the wall small ass gym like I. hate those [ __ ] things so. much um yeah those single leg lunges are. rough yeah and then we would just you. know um but but my point is Joe I gave. myself time after I won 50 Grand cuz. then I could afford to eat the way I. needed to that I was basically I was. going to be evicted from where I was. living if I didn't get side money from. Dana who gave me a place to live after I. won my contract and then when I got the. 50 Grand bonus I was like I'm GNA.

[ __ ] eat like I get to eat good food. I can buy you know food's expensive you. know so uh yeah I I took like the next. four or fiveish months to build myself. and then when I came in against Gerald. you hyped me up you were like it's. [ __ ] size and I was like dude my ego. I was like yes finally yeah you looked. awesome call [ __ ] skinny my whole. life yeah not anymore brother not. anymore not at all and then obviously. we're doing all that work with uh. something that you've seen um the.

documentary through all that time MH so. now it's finally uh you know hopefully. we get to release it soon. but oh you do have TR there's the. official trailer yeah we we we'll play. the trailer and uh end on this and. listen Joe I'm a big fan I'm [ __ ]. pumped for you I have uh you know I'm. I'm so fortunate to be in the position. that I'm in to be able to watch these. fights and and one of my favorite things. is to watch guys come up I love it thank. you and the rosak Assan fight was to me.

was like that's what I like to see a guy. with potential that just like oh now you. see it like this guy's World. Championship poent potential it's right. there exactly and that's the only thing. I'll say and I'll leave my last if you. look at Jack and you look at me the way. my mind is Jack. not been able to climb to the top but. he's been against the best and he's lost. to the. best me and if you look at him where he. is now coming off an injury 35 years old. do you look at him and say hey this guy. could hold the belt no I think the. general public would say no if you look.

at me there's a lot of question marks. still I still have to prove myself. against a lot of good guys I haven't. beat anybody that's that good so I'm. really honest with myself but I'm gonna. put myself on the map very soon so I. believe you I'm excited and thank you. for having me on here you know this has. been [ __ ]. my whole life has been crazy since I got. in. UFC it's awesome enjoy it my friend okay. so this uh when is this documentary. coming out when when will people be able. to see so uh our fellow friend Alex. Davis we're working on it shout out to. Alex can't say it yet um but this was.

actually the uh filmed by Chandler Henry. who is actually a kid that I went to. high school with so now I got him a job. and he does this for a living and Beau. this was made by him so hope we're. hoping really soon I just can't say yet. cuz that's Alex's job now all right well. Alex will take care of it I'm sure so. we'll end on this uh and this is. available online you can watch it it's h. what is it called Jamie official trailer. Journey to the UFC Joe Piper go find it. and uh February what is the fight with.

Herman February 10th main lasas main. event from the Apex let's go all right. thanks Joe thank you my. pleasure I've always believed ever since. I was a kid. that fighting isn't something you do. fighting is something that chooses. you all my life I was a throwaway kid I. was always terrified if I lost I knew I.

was getting screamed at or I was going. to get hit being slapped punched kicked. thrown down hair ripped to the point. that I ran away from home just shy of 17. years old because I couldn't take it. anymore a lot of different people come. from broken homes and they hold so much. anger inside and and. hurt that makes a person just become. kind of like an animal you. know Joe is just on this tear and then.

he gets a call from Dana Dana's like I. want to put you on the contender. Series this is Joey's shot to get in. there and a career-ending injury just. happened right in front of my face. know 18 years in the game at that point. gone in Joe's case this is the sort of. injury that could absolutely end a. career this is an unforgiving sport when.

you're the man everybody loves you but. the second you lose everybody forgets. you I wasn't ready to be. forgotten the pain that I know that kid. went through and overcame in his life. if you want to beat him you got to kill. him Joe didn't really find out that he. didn't have a place to live and he's. like what do I do and I was like you go. to Vegas and you.

fight. ground's the. power that's the power that all. teammates are talking about Joe Piper. makes his UFC debut after his week one. performance on the contender series. eight of his nine wins are by finish and. six of those are by knockout this fight. should be an absolute War I was scared. for my life for the first time ever in. any fight Philadelphia Pennsylvania here.

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