JRE MMA Show #145 with Terence Crawford

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. day Terence Crawford what's it like to. be the [ __ ] man man it's great I feel. like always been a man you have been a. man for a long time but uh I think uh. two weeks ago everybody realized it yeah. everybody uh give me my recognition now. and everybody give me my flowers so it's. a wonderful thing that I had to fight to.

you know get everybody approval well. It's tricky in boxing sometimes because. sometimes it's difficult to make those. matchups happen in a dream matchup like. that between two undefeated world. champions and for you to dominate the. way you did cuz a lot of people had that. like a pick them fight like a lot of. people didn't know how to call it but. you just [ __ ] ran that fight you ran. that fight that was amazing yeah you. know that's a fight that we've been for.

years and um to finally secure the fight. and perform the way that I performed it. was it was a great moment for me and my. career it was beautiful man I mean the. Ju Just the way you controlled the way. you switched things up the way he. controlled the pace of the fight the. defense your defense was on point those. hooks that you were Landing in close. were. magnificent it was a brilliant fight man. I mean I'm sure you appreciate I'm sure. you watched a bunch of times but man.

that was like a a real because it was. such a mainstream fight such a huge. fight where everybody was paying. attention to it and talking about even. casuals that they got to see you perform. that way and you know now it's like. there's no dispute you're the number one. pound-for-pound guy on Earth yeah uh. that's something that I got a credit to. my coaches you know because we drill. everything that you seen fight night we. drilled it time and time again time and. time again so it was it.

was it came natural and easy for me when. the when the fight came you know like I. said only thing they kept. saying uh how he's going to beat me is. because he's bigger and he's stronger. that was it you look stronger of course. of course and I was just like how do you. know he's stronger than me right he. might be bigger than me but big don't. mean stronger well he's just taller than. you you look more muscular than him too.

but it was just the the technique was. what really stood out it's like you just. were a master in there it was a master. class that's something that they wasn't. giving me credit for as well howz they. that's the thing it's like how are they. not you know I don't know what it is um. with me they just always try to uh. diminish my my accomplishments and oh. well who I was fighting they say oh well. you wasn't fighting nobody and this guy.

Errol Spence is the most uh. fundamentally sound fighter in the game. so um that's why everybody was picking. him but I was favored in Vegas so Vegas. must have had it right yeah well the. wise people picked you as a favorite you. know just just based on your. accomplishments it's not like Errol. Spence wasn't a great fighter he's a. great fighter but it's so interesting. when you watch a great fighter against. what I believe is an all-time great it's.

just that there's just levels upon. levels upon levels upon levels and right. now you're at the top of the [ __ ]. Mountain yes yes yes and I and I'm I'm. enjoying it I'm enjoying it beautiful. you deserve it you deserve it that's uh. when when you plann for that fight you. knew that you were probably going to. fight him like for the last few years it. was something that was on the table but. not really uh there was a point there. was a point in time where.

I was like you know uh I shifted gears. and I shifted my mind off of Errol. Spence. because I didn't feel like the fight was. going to happen but once I left Top Rank. and we started negotiating I was like oh. well maybe this fight will happen then. once I fought aonian because the um. conversations uh and everything that we. was uh talking about to get the fight. fight done it wasn't lining up to what I.

wanted so I decided to take another. fight and then I came back to the table. and like Hey listen let's get this fight. made and uh at that point in time things. wasn't going how I would have liked it. to go so I just hit up Spence like hey. man listen man if if me and you going to. fight me and you going to get this done. because you know there's a lot of people. that blocking the fight how are they. blocking like what was the what was the. but just business wise you know I just.

felt like I was worth asking out and. they felt like I wasn't and uh they. wanted to do the deal a certain way and. I wanted to do the deal the fair way and. um Errol Spence seen it he was just he. was he was agreeing with everything that. I said he was like yeah we can do this. we can do that and he probably felt like. he gave up too much you know at the at. the end when it was all said and done. but I was I felt like everything was.

fair was it in terms of like the purse. split everything we we talked about. everything yeah and so this fight had. been discussed for like how many years. now at least five years wow that's crazy. that it takes that long for something. like this to happen in boxing when I. came when I came uh to the welterweight. Division I called out all the Champions. except Shawn Porter I called out all the. champions I went at the mall you know at.

that time and uh I wasn't able to get in. the ring with any of them and at that. point in time they was calling Errol. Spence the Boogeyman and my reply was. how is he the boogeyman when I'm chasing. him you know um I just wanted to prove. to the world that that I was better than. what they say I was because given the. fact. that how great I looked against each.

opponent they say oh well he wasn't. nothing or he was this he was that. because how talented I am right so they. didn't want to give me no credit because. I passed all my tests with flying color. so yeah it was great to get in the ring. with Errol Spence Jr and do the same. thing if not better than I did for the. past opponents that I faced no you were. on fire it it was it's it's sort of the. same thing that Roy Jones Jr faced like.

everybody's like Roy hasn't beaten. anybody like yes he has it's just he's. so much better than everybody else that. he was making everybody else look like. there weren't any good but those were. World Championship caliber Fighters and. Roy was just lighting them up right. that's that sometimes when a fighter. eclipses everyone else and reaches the. Pinnacle that's the criticism they face. until there's an undeniable moment you. know and that was that was your. undeniable moment like everybody's got. to shut the [ __ ] up now yeah and that's.

and that's what you know. uh my my feelings was you know a lot of. people like man you didn't look too. happy you know after after you won after. you won I didn't see the excitement in. you in you I was like man I was happy I. was happy just I had to prove myself you. know to the world how great I knew I was. but at the same time I was kind of. disappointed at the same time that it. took this long for me to get my. recognition for me to get a big Marquee.

fight of this status at 35 years old. yeah especially after Chasing it for. five years right and I was chasing Manny. Pacquiao for probably five years. probably before that yeah so it's like. I've been Champion for n years going on. 10 years in March so I've been doing. this game for a long time you know and. uh I've been at the top since since.

since I beat Gamboa and I've been. looking for all the biggest challenges. there is. and some of them I was able to to. capture and some of them went the other. way and I'm just blessed to be able to. be the first man to be Undisputed in the. junior welterweight division the first. man to be Undisputed in a welterweight. division in the forbell era the first. man to be Undisputed in two ways. divisions so um it's a blessing it's a.

blessing it's a huge blessing it's it's. an amazing accomplishment you looked. happy you were dancing with your mom you. were having a good time I don't know why. people thought you weren't happy because. you know when you when you go in the. back room everybody want to see the. excitement I was just like I got that. off my B was a sign of relief was there. anything unusual about that fight like. did is that exactly how you expected the. exchanges to go I'm sure you watched a. ton of tape on him right actually I.

didn't really I didn't because a lot of. people always ask me do I watch a lot of. film on my opponents and I always tell. them no because I have a different style. they not going to fight me the same. style or the same way that they fought. their previous opponents they just not. you know uh so I already knew how he. fought I just watched probably like two. fights of his just to get a feel for. what he like to do what don't like the.

things that you know I can capitalize on. and that's it like I don't watch too. much film because I'm going make my. adjustments on the Fly inside the ring. so yeah I don't watch too much film. that's interesting what is the the. general consensus on that about watching. film do most Champions watch film is it. is it just on an individual basis no. some people like to watch film to where. they feel as if they know uh what their. opponent's going to do when they going. to do it because they got certain habits.

to uh. identify uh when they going to throw a. punch or or when they going to back up. certain things that you you see as a as. a top athlete you start noticing okay I. noticed he's doing this when he's doing. this he's doing that when he's doing. this and um you pick up on that and so. you you put it in your in your mind like. okay we're going to prepare for this. when you do that we going to do this so. you try to capitalize on it but me I.

never was that type of person I let my. coaches they do the uh studying and then. they come up with a plan and then they. shoot me the plan the the plan to win. and we just go from there when you. switch cuz you're you're in my opinion. the best ever at switching from Orthodox. to Southpaw since Marvin Haggler you're. the best ever like when you when do you. decide do you just feel it do you go out.

there Southpaw sometimes and say I'm. going to [ __ ] switch it up like how. do you how do you make those those. changes well I think I made the change. to fight. Southpaw uh in the back dress room. really yeah cuz I was like man how. should I come out cuz in my mind I was. just so filled with like the energy from. the weigh-ins the press conference the. weight the the. the moment so I was like man I just want.

to go out there and you know everybody. saying I'm too small so I wanted to. prove him wrong everybody was saying he. going to walk me down so I was just like. man you know they just don't know like I. just had that chip on my shoulder like I. just wanted to go go head on with the. bull and just go fight him and it was. like just box I was like just box and. then I was remembering I was like he. haven't fought too many southpaws before. and then on one of the occasions he got.

hurt real bad by a hook so I was like. I'm coming out Southpaw and I'm and we. gonna box just to start off but at the. same time I'm going to get my respect. out the gate I'm not going to be doing. all that moving so the plan was never to. move and everybody when you interview. them they was like all Terence got to be. uh slippery he can't stand in front of. Spence he can't do this he got to get on. his bicycle. I'm like he ain't no Terminator I'm like.

man I'm going to be right there in front. of him like I always do you know I'm. going make him Miss and make him pay and. I'm going to fight my my fight so I feel. like that was the key for uh the victory. because he wasn't used to fighting. southpaws do you feel as comfortable. Orthodox as Southpaw is there do you. feel like you're better in one stance or. is it just depending upon the opponent I. think it's depending on the oppon. opponent you know uh I feel I'm equally.

as uh great in both stands I'm very. powerful in both stands um I. hit just as hard with my left probably. even harder with my left than my right. you know but uh I think it's the. opponent they were talking about it in. the broadcast they said that when you. were a kid you hurt your hand and so. that's why you started practicing. Southpaw yeah that's when I started. actually. practicing it you know um that was.

something that when I when when I had. the cast on I was like man I love the. gym so much I'm like man I'm not leaving. the gym like I'm going practice with. this left and that's when I got the left. stronger because at first when I go. Southpaw it was only you know my right. my right my right then when my hand got. messed up just start working on the left. and it started getting stronger and. stronger and I start getting more.

accurate cuz at first just throw it just. to be throwing it and then you know it. just got to a point where they both my. left was actually way stronger than my. right when it came back so I had to get. my right back stronger that's it's crazy. that you have that option because that's. such a amazing advantage to be able to. fight just as comfortably from Orthodox. as Southpaw oh yeah definitely. definitely you know um I look at it like. you can't go nowhere right like you.

trapped like you move to your left I can. go Southpaw and cut you off you move to. your right I can go Orthodox and cut you. off so and then it and then it it's. great that I can pack a punch in both. hands as well because a lot of people. when they switch they give up something. M I think when I switch I gain something. in both stands that I probably don't. have in other stands so uh is great for. me did anybody ever try to discourage.

you from switching up that much of. course did they my coach he used to. always he used to get mad like you need. to focus on uh one stance and doing it. right before you start switching you. ain't even got the or Orthodox stands. down pack uh all the way and then you. trying to go south I'm like all right. all right now I go Orthodox and then in. the fight boom I switch then I switch. back he like stop switching. and then I win a fight like what when.

did he stop telling you to stop. switching when I was winning he was just. like he was like all right since since I. can't stop you from switching we just. going to train that way so if you do. four rounds you're going to do two. rounds Southpaw you're going to do two. rounds Orthodox that's just how we. started training well it's amazing how. it turned out and for Spence you know. who always fight Southpaw like to see. you as a southpaw too like like probably. created a little bit of an adjustment.

for him yeah yeah especially given that. he wasn't fighting too many southpaws in. his whole career right that much so it. seemed like after you dropped him in the. second right somewhere in like the. middle of the third you started to turn. the heat up then you started closing the. distance and you were like smothering. them you know like somewhere in the. third it seemed like you picked up the. intensity is that when you felt like you. started to get to him yeah yeah yeah I. felt like I was I was in control the.

whole fight you know um the first round. neither one of us really did anything we. was kind of just filling each other out. the second round he kind of started. picking it up a little bit and um I I. caught him with them two shots I feel. like that's what led me to get more. control because I I feel as. if. I I caught him off guard he wasn't. expecting me to punch as hard as I did.

so I could see on his face he was kind. of like oh you know and then the rest. you know I was in control yeah you were. in control it was it's an amazing. performance but now that you've. accomplished this and now that you're. the first man ever to be Undisputed in. two different weight classes like what. are the offers now are people coming. because I've hear I hear all this talk. about Jamal I hear this talk about. Canelo like what where are they at right. now well you know Canelo and Jamal is.

fighting I wanted to fight um Jamal next. since he was the uh 154lb. Undisputed uh Champion but as you know. they going to strip him for his belt. once the belt ring when he fight so your. goal was to go up and become Undisputed. in three different weight classes there. you go wow something that never been. done before right and you know uh it's.

greatness like I said this is my era and. I'm I'm taking it ain't nobody going to. stop me so now I didn't shift gears. because I know I wanted to fight Jamal. but if he lose to Canelo I wouldn't I. always said man that's a big step that's. a big step but for a person to go up. three- weight. classes from 147 to 168 in the win yeah.

and become. Undisputed wow what can they say they. can't say they can't say nothing right. now but what can they. say but well then then you're in like. the greatest of all time discussion I'm. already in them them discussions but I'm. saying but what would they say though. three time Undisputed champion and the. and the smaller fighter that went up. three weight divisions to conquer one of. the the baddest mans besides himself.

that's been doing it for probably longer. than me so you said 68 but you you mean. 54 right no 68 you want to go up to 68. so so who would you fight at 68 Canelo. if he yeah if he win or Charlo the. winner. wow that would be crazy I want to be. three time Undisputed to jump up like. that 21 pounds yes what do you walk. around at I don't know you don't know oh. you don't tell any you got I don't know.

you know what I mean but how much time. would you need to prepare for something. like that would you gain weight would. you do I have I'll definitely have to. gain weight yeah you know and I just. believe in my my abilities you know uh. canelo's not a big guy you know he's 5'8. right fought at 52 in front Pacquiao he. he's or when he fought Floyd rather he's. he's big like muscular wise but far as. like height right n so um yeah that.

wouldn't be nothing that you know we had. to see that would be insane for you to. go from 140 all the way up to 168 that'. be DP. woo I think it can happen I think that's. to to be honest I think that's the. biggest fight in boxing he beat. Charlo Terence Crawford Canelo that's. the biggest fight in boxing hands down.

no other fight fighters could compare. compare to that you know no disrespect. to Charlo but he's not he's not a. superstar he's not you know on canelo's. level now he got a chance don't get me. wrong like he's going to do well in that. fight and he got the tools to win you. know it's just about preparation and. what type of fight he fight now now. Canelo and him are fighting at 68 and.

when are they fighting is that September. yes. September 30th I. think so when would you like to get back. in like what would be good for you like. how much of a. turnaround well it probably if they. fight in September it' probably be next. year but that give me time to you know. bul up yeah get my body right what kind. of uh conditioning routine do you do now.

do you cuz how much is it difficult for. you to make 47 or is it pretty easy no. it was a little difficult yeah it was a. little difficult yeah I had to wear the. little Plastics and SOS suits this this. time but you know I don't know what it. is I go up and wait and then the weight. be going up on. me body adapts likes to eat likes to get. thick right so so it's cool though. that's cool so when like on a normal.

Camp um what does your training routine. consist of like do you do you do running. do you do strength and conditioning. workouts in the gym like what do you do. as far as like physical preparation I do. it all I run I swim strength of. condition um ply metrics all that you do. swimming yes a lot of people are doing. swimming now I've been doing that my. whole career really what do you like. about swimming I just think you know it. helps on your breathing it helps on your.

breathing your endurance is it's better. on your joints you know because we don't. run every day right so um yeah it it it. helps tremendously and do you lift. weights yeah yeah but not not not heavy. we live probably like 20 lbs like. something light mhm just a lot of. endurance wor yeah little quick twist. muscles so if you have a fight where. you're going to go up to 168 pounds how. much time do you think you need to get.

ready physically for that I'm ready now. you ready. now I'm I I'm I'm the type of fighter. that I just believe in myself you know. and I don't think a lot of people think. it's all about weight but I think it's. about the skills you know um I got the. power to make anybody respect me I don't. care what what your weight is if I catch. you in the right spot at the right time. you going to feel it you know and I just. feel like it's called boxing for a.

reason I'm going outthink you yeah well. you showed that in that fight I mean. just the defense everything man it was a. master class that's what I love about. boxing like if I wanted to show someone. a boxing match I would show a fight like. that like this is what I love about. boxing like this man is right in front. of that dude he's rolling with every. shot he's picking off every shot the. other dude throws at him and he's. countering with like Split Second timing. yeah and that's hard to do that's hard.

to do and you got to be comfortable. enough to have confidence that you got. to take chances yeah like when when I. when I dropped them with the uppercut. and the hook I got. hit in the left hand right yeah yeah I. got hit while I was throwing the. uppercut but I knew that going into it. because I baited them in and set a trap. so in my mind I'm going to take one to. get this get this off then come back. with something else and that's how I got.

the the drop the second drop yeah that. uppercut was genius it was just inside. tight boom perfect time how hard do. Spence hit uh he didn't hit he didn't. hit that hard but he never caught you. that clean that was probably the best. shot he landed no he caught me he caught. me a couple of times but you know I was. surprised at how hard he didn't hit. really given that everybody say oh he's. a big puncher he's this I I think he's. just a volume puncher I think he just.

wear his opponents down just wear him. down I I don't think you know he he has. a onepunch knockout he have power but. it's not like you know boom sleep you. know what I mean I think it's like bam. oh boom boom boom boom then he just wear. you down right yeah that is a difference. right cuz if you look at his career you. never seen him like knock nobody out. with one punch you never see him you. know dropping nobody with one punch you.

already see him like wearing them down. wearing them down that's why he go so so. hard to the body cuz he want to wear you. down then once once you get tired and. once your body start weakening. everything start weakening and those. little punches that wasn't hurting start. hurting oh so well that was probably. your most anticipated fight but what. what do you think was like your most. difficult fight I would think G. really I would say gambo because the.

experience at the time you know um you. got to understand I came from fighting. six round fights you know to a 10 round. fight on uh HBO when I got the bres. percot F fight so then I fight him then. I fight another guy for interm the nabo. and then I fight for a title Eliminator. in CL off and then I fight uh Ricky.

Burns and then I come back and fight. gambo when I become champion and gambo. was labeled the next Floyd Mayweather he. was on the pound-for-pound list you know. everybody had gambo at a high rating you. know so he's Olympic gold medal you. know he had the experience over me and. so I think I learned a lot in that fight. and that's what made it you know uh hard. because that was something that I never. experienced in a fighter uh before so it.

was a great learning experience that's. one of the most interesting things about. watching a very talented fighter is. seeing how they respond to the next. level of opposition and the next level. of challenges like like you're saying. going up from six rounds to eight rounds. to 10 to 12 and seeing the different. caliber of competition you know when you. when you look at like a box. career it's it's interesting because.

when they're kind of at the end of the. line in their late 30s it's the time. when they have the most experience they. know the most but their body doesn't. really perform as well anymore like this. is kind of Balancing Act and the guy who. beat that better than anybody was. Bernard Hopkins cuz Bernard was world. class up until like he was 50 which is. so crazy like how the [ __ ] did he do. that I think cuz his body was more. preserved being when he was in jail and.

he didn't have all the wear and tear on. his body you know my my guy Steven. Nelson he's he's another one he's 35. years old and he's still moving like. he's he's young cuz he never did no. Sports he started he started boxing at. like 18 oh so uh no injuries yeah he he. he just had an injury about a few years. ago he towards Achilles he was out for. two years but he back like nothing.

happened that's a big one yeah theill is. a big Jamal Hill the UFC light. heavweight Champion just tour his. Achilles mhm that's a rough one. definitely Jamal told T it playing. basketball which is crazy he tore his. Spar moving backwards really yes he was. just moving backwards it wasn't nothing. crazy he was just moving backwards and. it just. PO he said he thought somebody like hit. him he was just like he looked down like. man he thought it was me at first I'm. way on the bag I'm like what he's like.

man I [ __ ] up I'm like what he was. like man my ailles I'm like how you know. he was like man I heard it pop and so. like everybody getting around him like. man you got to go to the hospital let's. go wow two years two years out the gym I. mean out the ring that's a long one it's. it's a crazy injury to come back from. yeah because it's such a thick tendon. when it pops it's just a. disaster have you had any like.

significant injuries no that's amazing. yes so when you say like like for. Bernard like he preserved his body I. know you're very disciplined and I know. that like are are you do you ever take. time like after a big fight like that. where you go off the rails and eat pizza. every day and go crazy or do you stay. disciplined well I don't eat beef or. pork but you don't eat beef or pork or. pork really yeah but my uh my eating. habits is not the best you know I still.

drink pop here and there I still I. didn't lighten up on Candy I used to eat. tons of candy like every day real I used. to eat tons of candy but you know I. while you fighting yeah in Camp. too I don't know it just something that. listen I'm going to do this I'm going to. make weight I'm going to get everything. done but I'm I'mma have my candy and. like what kind of candy I just liked it. the you know uh the ranchers the chewy. ones just chewy chewy candy the.

starburst the uh the gummies I us just. always eat those well when you train it. a lot it's not bad to have a little. extra sugar yeah like Floyd used to. drink sodas after he trained yeah and. everybody's like why would he do that. like then I talked to a nutritionist and. he's like it's actually after a very. hard workout like uh sparring and. hitting the bag it's actually a good way. to replenish glucose yeah that's that's. that's probably why I always was. drinking it you know um and cutting.

weight I don't know why when I'm cutting. weight I be like all right even though. water I mean even though pop going to. make me more thirsty I'll be like I need. a. Sprite I need a Sprite a cold Sprite. they be like what I'll be like I just. need a Sprite how come you don't eat. beef or pork I I I don't eat beef pork. is just you know bad for you it's. unhealthy you know and I think when uh. beef I stop EA e beef like probably like. seven years ago probably more than that.

really yeah um I had I had back problems. and I was like man my back was just. hurting so bad and I didn't know what it. was so I went to the hospital I went to. the to the emergency and so they did the. uh MRI and Cas can and stuff like that. on my back and I had backed up [ __ ] all. up my back what backed up [ __ ] really. that was what was hurting. all beef so since I cut out the beef cuz.

they said beef is hard harder to digest. and harder for your body to break down. so I stopped eating beef and I ain't. never had none of them issues ever again. that's crazy I've never heard anything. like that yeah so where do you get your. protein from uh chicken just chicken. chicken turkey fish fish fish all that. yeah so chicken turkey fish yeah that's. CRA I've never heard anybody have I eat. mostly meat yeah it's like that's the. most of my diet is meat you probably got. a lot of [ __ ] in you.

nope I bet you. you bet you you might you might not know. it but you got get an MRI no maybe you. should do a colon cleanser or something. do you do colon cleansing no do one and. you going to be amazed really swear I. don't know about that all right I I. don't think there's anything wrong I did. I did one you know I was doing one in. this Camp yeah and it was crazy like you. know [ __ ] that come out of you you be.

like damn I had that so did you do like. a colonic nah I just you know colonic is. rough just to a hose up your ass yeah I. ain't doing that yeah I ain't doing that. what did you do what' you take no I just. you know take uh you know just a little. colon cleanse uh. dietary not like supplements or stuff. like that like just stuff that it's like. fiber yeah fiber that makes the [ __ ]. come out and it just wo. yeah I did that before uh before camp.

and stuff and I was like. dang y so if you own do you have someone. that prepares your meals yes yeah so you. got like a meal prep company there I got. nutritionist I got Chef all that and. you're also I saw on are you a part of. that snack thing too yeah yeah so that's. uh what that is is uh that is that um. that dude from B. Victor so Victor he was on the podcast.

back in the day so he's a guy that. busted or he got busted for with Barry. Bonds the clear they were giving him. that undetectable steroids and now he's. on the other side of it it's making sure. that the whole sport is clean yeah and. nobody knows better than him cuz he. cheated for years yes and they and they. hate it they hate it because you'll see. a lot of people like oh man this dude. was a cheater this dude was this this. dude was that and then you know you. can't get nothing past him well he was a.

cheater but you know just because the. guy was a cheat look first of all that's. the kind of guy you would want being. involved in cheating and catching. cheating but he trying to clean up the. whole sport yeah like it's not like he. like all well you know I'm sponsoring. you you representing my brand he's. trying to clean up the whole sport so. you know he's like why isn't like more. transparency yeah where is the. transparency like where's this where is. that why don't why can't the world know.

what's going on MH you know with the uh. test that's going on yeah the the public. should know you know if these Fighters. is clean or not right because every. month there's Fighters coming up. positive for steroids or or ban. substance well look at the Anthony. Joshua dillian white fight get canceled. two weeks out huge heavyweight fight and. dillian white pops yeah yeah and that's. not the first time no pop before right. yeah yeah so it's it's it's sad for.

Anthony Joshua to you know go through. those things that I'm training for this. fighter and then he pop now boom I'm hit. with right got to prepare for somebody. else and them the worst ones when they. come you know at the last minute and. they ready right cuz some people just. train just waiting for that call right. you know you never know also him. fighting helenus after Deontay starched. him that's like cuz everyone's going to. prepare compare you rather cuz Deontay.

Deontay hits so hard it's it doesn't. even make sense he hits so he he hits so. different than everybody else definitely. doesn't make sense man the helenus fight. he was like moving back and he went like. that yeah and that dude just shut off he. blessed with with dynamite in that right. hand like nobody before like nobody like. nobody in the history the heavyweight. division we have some giant punchers. Ernie Shavers George Foreman Mike Tyson.

but I put Deontay at the top of the Heap. right hey he he I don't know I don't. know man cuz those guys you know I mean. they was tough as snails back in the. days but I think Deontay Wilder man he. hit you couple of times with that right. hand yeah if you ain't Tyson Fury you. going to sleep right he's the only dude. he's the only dude the first fight was. bananas when he catches him with that. right hand and the left hook as he's. going down then Deontay goes like this.

and he thought it was over and this. [ __ ] Rises like the Undertaker. just got to I was like there is no way. there's no way and then he starts. outboxing him like how he beat him that. I mean I thought he came back and won. the rest of the round I think he did and. then he took that strategy into the. second fight he realized that Deontay. does not fight as well when you're going. after himh and so then he just dominates. a second fight it's the third but in the. third when he he got rocked once so hard.

you could watch the Ripple the shock. wave go down his body and it was. jiggling his fat jiggling his back fat. from the shot just. boom there's I don't think there's. another person right in the heavyweight. division that would ate that shot like. Tyson did I think I think I told. everybody both both Fighters won that. fight the first fight I said. because Tyson Fury I don't know if he. made the count but any other fighter you.

get dropped like that they was going to. call it off right cuz dude literally. boom yeah looked up and it was just. like any other fighter they would have. counted out and I feel like Tyson Fury. won on points yeah I I I he was winning. the fight he got up still winning second. fight Tyson Fury hands down but the. third fight Deontay Wilder could have. made it a barer interesting fight but he. got tired he was working real well but.

he got tired but you know uh Tyson Fury. smart he started putting that weight on. them start laying on them you know what. I mean so he's incredible that's the. experience you know what I mean so he's. incredible I mean and he's such a. character too such a fun dude yeah he's. funny he's so funny he got so mad at me. cuz I said Jon Jones would [ __ ] him up. in the in the in the Octagon yeah yeah. he said in a fight in a fight fight no. man would beat me oh no lock me in a.

room with any man I'm coming out alive. no John John he's a he's a dangerous. dude man y'all better leave him alone. leave him alone yeah it's just well. listen I believe firmly that if Tyson. Fury learned wrestling and learn Muay. Thai when he was younger just like John. did he would be a world. champion he's not being John now no no. no no no no one's beating John yeah even. if he was to train when he was little he. still not beting John John he'd have to. be a great great wrestler too like the. thing about JN is he can do everything.

he do everything every and he's the most. he has the highest octagon IQ he's the. best at like implementing his strategy. and utilizing his reach and just. figuring out how to get a hold of you. he's the best he gonna find a way to win. that's my guy he's amazing he's amazing. but like when it comes to heavyweight. boxers Tyson Fury is one of my all-time. great I have two favorite alltime. Fighters Mike Tyson in his prime which. was just like a cultural phenomena like.

when you would watch Mike Tyson fights. back in the day they were executions. right like you were just paying and you. were hoping it lasted a little cuz. you're paying for the pay-per-view like. I hope he doesn't knock this guy out in. 10 seconds so you wanted to see. something and it was literally like two. rounds one round it was amazing people. forget like when you see him in his. prime when he was bobbing and weaving. and I was talking to the guys last night. at the comedy club and I was talking. about the Marvel Frasier fight and that. to me is the most terrifying version of.

Mike Tyson cuz Marvis Frasier really. didn't have a chance his father was. propping him up his father wanted him to. fight Tyson because you know Joe Frasier. would have wanted to fight Tyson when he. was in his prime he's like I'm gonna get. my son out there and do it and Tyson. just came out guns blazing this was. Tyson before he won the title 24 wins. zero losses 22 Knockouts and a. heavyweight like nobody had ever seen. before moved like a lightweight. the way he was bobbing and weaving and. coming in close he was so fast yeah but.

his punches were just ridiculous angles. and accuracy I [ __ ] love this. fight yeah nobody nobody was like it. especially in the heavyweight division. no it was a totally different thing this. is it you see him set up the uppercut he. Paul Paul Paul with that jab and boom it. was. incredible he in his prime I I feel like. I would have loved to see him against. any of the greats any of the greats Joe.

Lewis Muhammad Ali anybody any of the. greats I would love to have seen Tyson. in his prime against those guys yeah if. they could take a punch then it would be. interesting the punches come so fast the. thing about Tyson too is the speed yeah. that's what I said they could take a. punch the speed was insane CU he get hit. Tyson got hit a lot yeah you know it's. just that you know he's he's willing to. take a hit to get his power H well he. also had that neck that started at the.

top of his ears his neck started up here. man it's a crazy neck man he could take. a punch better than anybody better than. anybody so what you think let me ask you. a question okay so what you think on uh. about the business uh side of MMA and. and boxing in what way and like you know. the way of the fighters getting you know. not getting what they deserve in MMA and. boxing both You Know It's Tricky right.

like this whole thing with you and. Spence like trying to negotiate a a. proper contract you know there's a lot. of vultures there's a lot of weasels the. one good thing about the UFC is that. there's one organization that controls. it the one bad thing about the UFC is. that there's one organization that. controls it so you got good and bad so. like if I was a manager of a fighter I. would want Fighters like. like your career where you're tested and.

you're you're you're facing ever. increasing challenges but it's. calculated it's calculated and you you. get lessons from each fight and then you. build up to a point where you're ready. to challenge for a title like Jon Jones. fought for the title when he was 22 I. mean it was a last minute fight um. Rashad Evans got hurt and Jon Jones went. in to fight Shogun Jon was just so. [ __ ] talented so above everybody else. that dominated that fight and walked. away the world champion and destroyed.

Shogun he opened up the fight with a. flying knee 22 years old first title. fight opens up with a flying knee who. the [ __ ] does that nobody does that. everybody would be nervous everybody be. John just so loose and creative in there. but in MMA a lot of times Fighters get. fights that really not ready for right. and they I'm not talking about the. aspect of I'm talking about the business. side of it the business side it it be. speaks to that as well because for a.

fighter to get to a point where they're. undefeated and they have a big name then. they start getting the big money and. then they're the headline of the card. and you know I think there's a lot of. there's a lot of good in that there's a. lot of good in preparing a fighter. properly like you see a lot of Fighters. when they fight for a title they might. have like 16- one 16 and0 like people. like undefeated records it's very rare. that a UFC fighter gets all the way to a. title fight without some losses. definitely and I think that also speaks.

to the the style differences the. wrestling the kickbox all the different. things that you might face inside the. octagon and having it prepared for that. but that's one thing I like about MMA. you know uh those guys they. still great Fighters they still get. praise you know even though they. probably got five losses yes you know. one LW don't Define how great they is. you know um. compared to boxing right you know uh.

look how the media and how people is. bashing Erol Spence like he's not great. crazy you know what I mean just because. he lost to a alltime great fighter and. myself you know uh that's all the. fighters that I didn't fought you know. once I fight him and you know I dism to. him they say oh well those guys is weak. those guys not great Fighters though. those guys is tomato can they washed up. they bombs I'm like dang how can you.

disrespect this man and he didn't worked. his ass off to get to the level that he. is even be able to challenge me you know. what I mean can I just be that good why. why they got to be bums why they got to. be tomato cans isn't that there's a lot. of noise though there's a lot of people. that their opinions are stupid there's a. lot of people their opinions suck but if. you watch if you if you if you looked at. my whole career that's what was always. said Terence Crawford haven't fought. anybody Terence Crawford you know uh.

only fought uh watched Fighters Terrence. Crawford this Terence Crawford that but. now after the Spence that's shut the. [ __ ] up that's I said but don't listen. to those people like listen to Andre. Ward no they motivate me you know what. I'm saying oh they do they motivate. okay you're like David Goggins yeah I. want to to I I want I want to hear it I. want to see it because you know that. that likes that. right and then I just GP my teeth and be.

like well one of the most crazy stories. about your career is your mom it's about. how your mom just never gave you any. praise just like nope not good enough. she was tough she was she was tough you. know what I mean I I love my mom to. death that's my that's my heart it's my. girl you know what I mean but that was. just her way of pushing me to be great. you know what I mean and um she just. knew that her son was was was so. competitive she was just like all right. let me see how competitive you is let me.

come here little kid you would she would. pay people to try to beat you up yeah no. we well we have gloves we have gloves. you know cuz I come from a uh my my. family was all into boxing my dad's side. of the family uh my mom's side of the. family so she was always tough so she'll. get the little kids in the neighborhood. fir ours if they can if they can win. we'll be in the front yard and you know. I I'll beat them all up. I'll beat them all up I be like now what.

you give me the money you know it's. amazing how it worked I mean now it's. not something like I think a. psychologist would recommend for raising. a child right but sometimes they're. wrong you know and it depends on the. person whether that they can rise to. that challenge and obviously it made you. great yeah I think that's why I said you. know. um I love to hear the the doubters the. naysayers because I think it's something. in me from my past trauma with my mom.

you know me trying to trying to prove. her wrong you know me fighting for her. you know um approval so you know it goes. back to when I was a kid when you know. she would say oh man you ain't you ain't. going to win it I go out there and win I. come back with the belt and she taking. pictures with the belt look look what my. son got look what my son did you know. what I mean but then you know when when. it's just me and her you still ain't. [ __ ] the next one you know what I mean.

so I laugh and stuff like that that's. amazing yeah so it was just you know uh. my mom knew what she was doing at a for. me at a young age she was instilling you. know mentally toughness because you know. um through anything that's going on in. my life I'm always focused no matter. what it is it can be a loud room full of. full of people it can be 50 people in a. room and I could be fighting the next.

day and the average person be like man. what is you doing dude you got a big. fight tomorrow like you need to be. focusing you need to be resting you they. need to be out the room you know I'll be. sitting there I be like I'm. good I'm not doing nothing they just. sitting here talking what's wrong with. that cuz I'm so locked in because once. I'm focused on. something that's not going to distract. me and I think that's that comes from my. upbringing as well have you ever worked.

with a sports psychologist or anything. nah nothing but I used to have to uh see. counselors and stuff like that when I. was little if you get in trouble huh if. you get in trouble no I used to get in. trouble I used to have a anger problem I. used to be mad at the world and I always. tell people I don't know why I was so. mad but then as I got older I I was. realized that you know my dad was gone. and I wanted my dad to be there yeah and. like my mom like everything you know I.

do wrong I was getting whooping for it. so it was like that's all I know you say. something I don't like I'm whooping your. ass you do something I don't like I'm. whooping your ass so it was just like. everything that I was getting at home. for getting in trouble when I go out. into the real real world I was you know. doing the same thing that my mom was. doing to me when I get in trouble or say. something or do something that she don't. like I was getting whooping for it you.

know you're not listening get so I I be. like dude shut up talking to me and you. still talking to me you're not listening. now we got to fight I gotta beat your. ass cuz now now you're not listening and. now you can piss me off so you know I. used to I used to get in trouble a lot I. used to get in trouble a lot well it. seems like with all great Fighters. they've overcome some serious problems. when they're young yeah like every great. fighter it's it's very rare that you. have a great fighter that had like this. like perfect upbringing where nothing.

ever went wrong everything was fine got. everything they wanted anything they. needed you know it seems like every. fighter has to come they have to. overcome people doubting them people. dismissing them they have to overcome. that oh yeah definitely from school to. to everywhere you know yeah a lot of. people I don't think nobody but my. family members thought that I was going. to turn out to be the guy down I am. today like when I see people that knew.

me when I was little they just you know. like they just want to cry they just. like but I just can't believe how how of. a man you grown into I would have never. believed this to be you like you talk so. well you ain't in trouble you you you. doing things for the community I'm just. I'm just in disbelief like I'm just so. proud of you and I just be like thank. you because nobody thought that I would. turn out to be who who I am today you. know uh and it just goes to the show.

that it don't matter how you start it. always matter how you finish well it's. also your composure you know you have. this ability like you can talk [ __ ] in. the middle of a fight to someone who's. sitting ringside yeah like it's kind of. amazing you're just always. composed I think it's because you've. overcome all that [ __ ] but because your. mind is centered you even when we were. talking about cars earlier when I was. showing you the Barracuda you're like I. don't drive any of my cars I drive my. truck you just listen all these cool. cars you have you just stay lowkey yeah.

stay lowkey and keep it together stay. composed I got to that's just me you. know I never I never want to be nothing. other than myself like I remember my. family members you know a couple of my. friends they like man you need to talk. more [ __ ] you need to be like Mayweather. you need to do this you need to do that. I'm like no I don't I said that's him. that's that's not me right I mean you. you see tank them you see all these.

Fighters you know Broner them you see. that's how you get the money that's how. you get the money you got to you got to. entertain you got to show the money you. got to do this I like I'm GNA be myself. and that's I thrived on that you know. because when it's all said and done when. when all the money gone when all the. fans done checking your name now who you. really is right now you got to search. and find the real you but if the real. you been there all.

along you going you going to be happy. you ain't you ain't going to have to you. know go through therapy you ain't going. to have to be buying friends you ain't. going to be having to stay in the sport. to hear that chant again so when you. when you walk away from the sport you're. going to walk away from the sport as a. man with your head high and you just. going to wave yeah that's beautiful yeah. definitely well you have a rock solid. philosophy I love that it's this one of.

the things I really admire about Andre. Ward Andre Ward Olympic gold medalist. two Division World Champion retires. undefeated he's like I'm gone that's. good all my faculty is completely intact. and they even offered him a big money. fight against Canelo after he beat. kovalev after he knocked out kovalev. they offered money to Andre a lot of. money and he's like I think I better. serve boxing as a commentator which is. amazing for a guy who's still in his. physical prime still I mean there's. video footage of him working out still. in tiptop condition looks fantastic he.

he had a lot of injuries though yeah the. shoulder the big and the knee the knee. was big but the shoulder he's a one arm. Fighter for most of his career which is. so incredible he beat everybody with a. left hand everybody went through the. whole super six tournament great beat. everybody with a left hand great yeah. and then finally got it fixed and [ __ ]. kovalev up in the rematch with her right. hand right it's crazy crazy I always. said I want to retire from boxing I. never wanted boxing retire from retire. me um my goal was always to retire at 33.

33 33 is it because the fights didn't. come like Spence fight or even before. that but why did you decide to keep. going I just I I don't know it's just. like my body was just like man you ain't. done you know what I mean even though. you know I wanted to retire it was just. like you're not done like you got a lot. to prove you got a lot to. accomplish you still in your Prime so. it's like all right keep going cuz I I.

wanted that Mega fight I wanted that. that big fight to where it's like no. denying who Terence Crawford is you know. or what he stood for or you know the. family man he was I wanted the people. still to to know who Terence Crawford. was and I feel like there was people. that knew who I was and that follow me. but it wasn't solidified worldwide yet.

so but look now even that it is you. still want the next challenge N I really. don't have nothing to prove I can walk. away right now and I constant play it on. that you know I do that every day I wake. up do I still want a. box do I still want a box because I. don't need to box because I done great. with my money I invested great with my. money I got a lot of great uh businesses.

I got a lot of great uh things that that. I'm doing so uh that's that generate. money so I don't need boxing I'm doing. I'm doing this for legacy you know so if. it's not that's why I said if if Charlo. move up in weight and they strip him for. his belt there's no need for me and. Charlo to fight because he not. Undisputed you yelled at him from the. from The Ring Of course like you next of.

course I've been saying that for for. years I said I'm going to I'm going to. whoop Spence then I'm going to whoop you. and I meant that you know um but yeah if. he's not Undisputed then you know that. that that fight don't you know I don't. know it don't it's not interesting to me. no more because I'm trying to make all. time history right you know uh um if the. Canelo fight uh fight come to fruition.

then that's a fight that I'll be willing. to take just off the wris you know to be. one of the alltime greats. that you know that that that that's a. fight that that's the one that gets you. going I can see in your eyes yeah yeah. that's a fight because of the challenge. I love the challenges and I love I love. the people that I hear them now you're. too little you know Canelo gonna break. you he's gonna stop you you come from.

147 that way too big this and that I can. hear now and that just excite me to go. in there and just be like. okay let me prove wrong once again that. fight would be gigantic if Canelo gets. through Jamal and then you guys fight. that fight would be gigantic and it's. crazy because like in the past interiew. views I was like man Canelo too big man. it's weight classes for a reason I was.

like no but in my mind in my heart I. don't think nobody too big you know. especially in a fight I'm I'm a fighter. but like I was thinking like man it. could happen so you start really sitting. down like man that fight maybe can. happen Okay so now you start you start. sizing sizing them up he be like all. right he 5'8 I'm 5'8 my arm's longer. than his he bigger than me but I'm.

faster you know so then you start doing. the. advantages you know what I mean like man. we right there yeah we right there you. know what I mean so I was like man and. it's not like he didn't go up and wait. as well yeah yeah so that's why I was. like man that's that's a fight and it's. the same kind of fighter too because. like that's why he went up and fought. Bal that's why he fought kovalev he. wanted that challenge for him to go up. from Junior middleweight all the way up. to light heavyweight and win the title. definitely but going up and becoming.

Undisputed against. Canelo come on man I'm flying in in the. sunset man thank you boxing gods that. would be it that would be it yeah that's. that's that's that's the only thing get. for me I didn't accomplish everything. there is to accomplish in the sport of. boxing you know um. there's really nothing for me to. accomplish right. now like anything it's about the money.

now it's about the money you know I'm. not going to sit here and say it's not. but the money and to be Canelo if that. fight was ever to. happen come on man y'all better leave me. alone better leave me alone man call me. call me you know what I mean TBC man. yeah yeah man that's that's what I've. been thinking about I don't know why you. know I was just like man the last few.

days I was like man I don't know if it's. God talking to me or what but that's a. fight that if he. win if Canelo win. then yeah I'm G try to pursue that I. love that I love that mentality I do I. love it I love it cuz that's where it's. at that's that's what makes alltime. great yeah it's like you you have to. have that mountain decline but nobody. went up I don't think nobody went up. three-way.

classes well didn't. Roy Roy started 160 I'm I'm saying not. at once right you know what I mean from. 147 to 168 no the closest is that is. when Canelo went up 68 to 75 starting at. 54 yeah no not starting I'm saying I. started at 135 right that's true that's. true you know mean I'm just saying like. say if Canelo was the champion at 147.

mhm to go up 160 right right right right. in one jump yeah one jump it's a big. jump too 21 pounds it's a lot of weight. it's a lot of weight yeah that's I Spar. big guys though Dam yeah I Spar big guys. that's why I'm like I'm started thinking. like. man probably can be great I probably can. be great you know what I mean but you. know it's different in the fight but I. believe in my skills and my ability and.

I believe in my team I believe we we'll. come up with something that you know um. would be suitable for me to be. successful in that fight that would. probably be the biggest fight in boxing. definitely that fight would be gigantic. it would that would be a big one I have. to go to that one that one happens I got. to go there live you were supposed to go. to this last I couldn't I was at the UFC. I wanted to go it's crazy how they had. it on the same day sucked but it was. good because my fight was early then. your fight was later on that night so I.

didn't i' unfortunately somebody spoiled. it for me oh they did yeah they spoiled. it for me then then I I said all right. let me watch the highlights yeah and I. was just watch the highlights on my. phone I was like oh [ __ ] yeah and then I. got home and watched the the whole fight. on the big screen that's what's up. that's what I actually got Paramount. plus just for you yeah so I could watch. it he couldn't watch it anywhere else. after it was already aired I appreciate. it it was magnificent man I just I love. Excellence I love when someone just.

Rises to the top of a shark infested. pool cuz that's what boxing is you know. and when you're at your level and when. you could perform that way against a guy. like Errol Spence against a guy who's an. undefeated you know Elite champion and. for you to perform that way this is what. to me what boxing is all about when one. person shows that there are levels upon. levels upon levels on levels yeah you. know and then it puts you in this. category where people go okay well what.

other Champions can move around in. weight classes or go up or come down. like you know there's I know there's. been a lot of discussion about different. people from different weight classes. coming up to you is there anything else. that's interesting to you other than. Canelo or. Jamal nah. nothing. no you just need like dragons to slay. you know what I mean like at this point. in your life you can't even fight a. regular fighter yeah like I don't know.

like I get excited I don't know why I. get excited when I talk about Canelo. like I used used to get excited about. Pacquiao really you know I used to get. so excited like man I'm G be able to. fight Pacquiao you know because is that. the one you think got away yeah it. definitely did it definitely did I tried. I tried my ass off what stopped that. fight from they didn't want to fight. it's too dangerous they didn't want to. fight Freddy roach said he didn't want.

to. fight they his Pacquiao handlers didn't. want to fight you know I believe. Pacquiao as a fighter he wanted to fight. but they didn't want to fight for him so. you know um it just got away uh when. looking back at like Floyd career like. him coming up in in the in theuh Era. that he came up in he had all them. champions that he was able to fight and. that's what led him to be uh so great.

you know because he fought the most. Champions beat the most Champions you. know got the most money for beating the. most Champions so it was just like man. he had this guy this guy this guy this. guy this guy back to back the fight one. after one you know and um when I was. coming at the peak of my career they. they all retired you know what I mean so. it's like I can't get these guys name on.

my resume you know what I mean so it's. just like you know um now I'm the old. guy in the uh in the era you know that. the young guys want to try to get a. piece of to build their legacy and uh. put names on their resume and it's just. going to keep history going to keep. repeating itself yeah there's always. going to be a new guy coming up and. there's like right now you got boot. tennis is in your weight class.

definitely what do you think about him. oh he's very very talented he's unproven. but he's very talented you know um the. eye test tells it all you know he's got. the it you know uh but we haven't seen. him against any Elite fighter we never. seen him tested so um until then you. know we just going to keep saying oh. boots boots boots. until he meet that fighter that's going. to test him is he's is he the mandatory.

yeah I I probably got like three. mandatories really oh right fourway. classes four belts yeah is is that a. fight that you would be interested in. nah it just don't make sense right now. in my career like I said like especially. MoneyWise don't nobody really no boots. but us you know um I'm looking for. bigger and better better challenges like. Canelo you're just looking for the big. ones yeah the big fish yeah fish fry.

definitely definitely them the them the. guys I'm looking for you know why do you. say fish. fry cuz he called himself the big fish. oh you know arol arrol said he was the. big fish and I said we was going to fry. him he was going we was going to reel. them in was was going to put them on the. bank was was going to gut them was going. to fet them then we was going to fry him. and that's what happened yeah and you. did it when boxing is this is a great.

time for boxing there's so many stars. coming up right now and everybody. fighting each other yeah what did you. think of the lomachenko Devon Haney. fight that was a great fight I was. actually Ring Side you know uh Devin. Devin showed a lot of heart grit Canelo. showed a lot of heart and grit lenko I. mean yeah I said Canelo see my mind. you're locked in yes lomachenko he. showed a lot of heart and grit and you.

know they fought their ass off you know. they fought their ass off and the better. man won that day did you think that the. decision made sense man listen I'm not. no judge I always uh tell people I'm not. a judge I can't you know tell a person. that's been judging probably longer than. I've been boxing you know uh but he's. basing his. um rounds on or why. he um give what round to.

who um we can we can we can argue all. day but that that ain't going to change. the results right so um I just don't get. into it I just hope that I never be on. the end of that that stick right yeah. that's that's what's unfortunate is that. it was such a great fight but so many. people thought the decision wasn't right. that it sort of diminished the. accomplishments of both Fighters because. Devon Haney fought a brilliant fight and. so did lomachenko I mean lomachenko. turned the clock back he looked.

incredible yeah both of them both of. them put on the show you know um I was I. was rooting for Devon the whole time you. know um but both of them put a put a. hell of a show on and you know uh got to. tear my hats off to him because you know. they put it all on the. line yeah and you know that weight class. is a [ __ ] stacked weight class too. when Devin Haney beat kosas and beat him. twice and just the way he did it like. the way he looked I already knew that.

you already knew that definitely not not. not taking nothing away from cambos is. it's just level it's levels levels you. know it's a reason why you know people. was avoiding Devin and Shakur right. because those two. boxing phenoms you know if you're not if. you're not on that that that level. mentally. like you're not even GNA compete with. those two dudes right you it's it's such.

an interesting thing because a lot of. people don't know you know the the the. general public when someone gets to like. an elite level they need some. high-profile fight in order for people. to realize because all the boxing fans. realize like Shakur is a great example. it's not really a household name but he. should be I mean he's a elite fighter. he's so [ __ ] good but he needs like a. big high-profile fight like Dante did.

you know. against right nobody want to fight him. yeah and I and I I see why you know I. get it but at the same time you know. they going to have to see him sooner or. later no matter what no matter how far. they they they go they're going to have. to see them sooner or later so you know. all these Fighters you know he's calling. out everybody he's calling out the pit. bull he's calling out l. yeah he's calling out Devin he's calling. out you know tank he calling out.

everybody he want to fight everybody. right now right you know and uh it's a. dangerous man when you know how talented. he is and he's motivated he's focused. he's he's stay in the gym he's a gym rap. he he he loves boxing to the core. like yeah that's that's a dangerous man. right now cuz he he got something on his. mind that you know know he want to he. want to accomplish and he's still very. young yeah very young and still getting.

better with every fight him versus tank. would be insane yeah tank is one of the. most interesting fighters to watch. because he's so different his style is. so different you know he's so economical. like he puts pressure on guys without. throwing too many punches and then. starts to figure holes out and the way. he can explode and move in with one shot. my God yeah he he very explosive he's. very explosive and you know um man he be. cracking them dudes crack people hey he.

put him to sleep just cracking people. and he has so much confidence in his. power so much confidence in his power he. doesn't give a [ __ ] if he's giving away. a couple round yeah he definitely be. giving away rounds but you know he just. in his mind he know it's a matter of. time before I catch you and that's the. that's the thing with tank you know. these these Fighters you know know um. you got to be. aware 15 rounds I know you're going 12.

but you you got to think you going three. more because you know the slightest slip. and we seen it yeah you know time and. time again one slip one mistake and it's. over yeah you know so uh you know hats. off to uh tank you know he's he's he's a. great talented fighter but again he. haven't faced the top Elite uh fighters. in his division right you know so uh we.

want to see tank against you know. somebody his size you know at the at the. uh Elite level yeah and I I believe. he'll do good cuz you know he got the. skills the power he got the ring IQ to. do good but we haven't seen that yet. yeah he's in he's also wild he's a wild. F so he's fun to watch you know he's. just a crazy dude you know yeah coming. from Baltimore man I think that's just. his upbringing as well you know product.

of his own environment yes yes for sure. he's just so so unique in his approach. like you know he doesn't fight like. anybody else yeah it's all right I just. get very frustrated when there's amazing. fights that are on the table that don't. get made you know like uh usyk and Tyson. Fury yeah I was like I want to see I. know usyk is small right I know he's. small for the weight class but God damn. that dude is good godamn he's good and.

the pace that he fights at for a. heavyweight is insane definitely I think. that goes back to you know the business. you know. um the business side you know usk is you. know a great fighter and it has. accomplished great things in the sport. of boxing and for him to get. disrespected you know in the. negotiations because I'm pretty sure. that's probably what it came down to uh. is is is it's not right well he was.

willing to accept 7030 yeah which is. crazy but he's like I just I want this. fight this is a big fight and he must. realize also that 30% of a Tyson Fury. fight is probably bigger than anything. he's ever had before in his life but I. still honestly think you know um he. deserved more than that I think so too. you know but I love the fact that he. said yes yeah and then it still didn't. happen right so you know who who who was. behind the reason why it didn't happen.

yeah I don't that's that's when you. start asking those type of questions who. do you think was behind it I don't know. I can't say I wasn't you know in the. negotiations but you know U it should be. some type of form where you know these. fights should be mandatory to happen so. you can clean up the sport of boxing it. can only be one champion and one. division like the UFC right you know I. think we got too many titles I think we.

got too many sanction bodies I think you. know uh we need to clean up the sport as. a whole I think the fights need I mean. the fighters need you know pinions we. need. 401ks we need a union we need uh health. health uh insurance I think we need all. that you know uh we put our life on the. line to go out here and entertain you. know the. people and once once we done.

entertaining we leave home you know and. we come home not the same fighter that. we once was when we left you know and uh. it's heartbreaking to see a lot of these. oldtime Fighters you know that speaking. impaired and you know um can't enjoy the. fruit of their labor or just flat out. broke and they gave they their life to. the sport and doesn't have anything to. show for and I think that's wrong I.

think you know we need to create. something to where at least the fighters. can you know live comfortable after the. sport of boxing given if you know. something dramatic was to happen or you. know you didn't put in a certain amount. of years in a sport that you can pay in. on your own um to have you a 401k so. when you retire you got some type of. income coming in because when you.

getting that much money so fast and so. frequently you just spin it you just. spin it because in your mind I'mma fight. again and I'mma get it again I'mma fight. again then I'mma get it again but then. you start living off of that and then. once you get to the end till end of your. career you're like damn I didn't spent. millions and millions and I got a couple. of more fights now now you struggling. you know because you got to pay taxes if. not they coming to take everything you.

got and then you know you pay taxes now. you got not even half of that and now. you looking like damn I got to make this. stretch and then you ain't got no work. ethic skills because you've been boxing. your whole life you didn't go to college. to get no uh curricular skills and other. lanes so uh yeah I think we we need to. create something to clean up the Sporter. boxing do you think it's possible to. eliminate the sanctioning bodies I mean. the only person that can kind of do it.

is a guy like you because like if you're. a world champion in four different. organiz you're Undisputed there's no one. who can say they're the welterweight. champion of the world except for Terence. Crawford if you say all these belts are. [ __ ] like I'm the [ __ ] Champion. whether it's the Ring magazine belt or. whatever you you sanction whatever you. sanction do you think it's possible to. do something like that I think it is I. think I think anything is possible you. know I think you know Floyd I think.

Canelo they showed us time and time. again that it's not about the belch when. you get to a certain point in your. career you bigger than the belch right. uh coming up everybody Want To Be A. Champion but once you get your name out. there and you become a mega star star. the belts don't mean nothing we paying. for the belts how much do you have to. pay we got to pay like. what 3% 3% 2% 3% like that's crazy.

definitely so it's like crazy it's like. I'm paying you to make me a belt and do. you have to pay 3% to each individual's. sex wow some of them is different some. of them is three some of them two you. know so it's like I'm paying for you to. come out here and watch me fight to to. give me a belt that you know what I mean. I'm already paying for. like come on now I'm paying you you not. paying me I'm paying you so right the.

only one that really matter is the ring. Bel because it's free it's free like why. do I got to pay to be Champion once you. start thinking about that like damn yeah. I'm paying all this money and the Ring. magazine belt is as respected as any of. them yeah that's the number one guy in. the division yeah that's how it should. be I don't think you know uh a champion. should have to pay to be champion no and. where is all the other money going to. yeah you know especially when you get to.

these high price fights you know that. that that two and 3% is turning into a. lot of money yes so you're like okay so. what is you doing with the money right. what is the money going to like where's. the value yeah yeah so the value is. entirely in you definitely and you and. your name that's people don't give a. [ __ ] about those three letters at all at. all they just know Terence Crawford's. the best and who he's fighting who cares. like whatever it is that's the big fight.

it doesn't WB WBC no nobody gives a [ __ ]. they don't nobody gives a [ __ ] they they. they they care about who you be oh you. just beat nobody you know I mean care. about the the belts you know yeah it's. cool to say you know I mean he's an. Undisputed champion of the world you. know I mean or he's a champion of the. world that's beautiful you know what I. mean that's that's history. that's Legacy but at the end of the day. you know uh it's all about the man's.

future yeah you know and that money that. we spending on them belts and then with. them sanction bodies can go to our our. kids and our family yes you know so um. it's a lot of it's a lot of money that a. lot of leeches yeah yeah um what do you. think about like what's Floyd's doing. what Floyd's doing is kind of crazy I. love it it's amazing he's making more. than most boxers just fighting people. have zero chance I love it I love it. because it's entertainment yes you know.

um Ali did it Tyson did it like why. can't Floyd do it a lot of people. Floyd's doing it better than anybody. yeah that's what I was about to say a. lot of people getting mad because how. well he's doing it yeah but if I was in. Floyd position and uh I got the. opportunity to do what Floyd is doing. right now travel the world uh spawn. yeah you know I would I would do it we. Spar for free right you know why not.

Spar for some millions of dollars it's. not going on my record I'm entertaining. I'm uh you know um I'm getting a workout. uh at the same time why not right no I. agree I think it's amazing I just love. the fact that he's gained the system. yeah you know because the system is you. get to a certain point in time you're a. champion make as much money as you. possibly can you retire and then is no. more money and Floyd's like let me just. box some people that have zero chance. yeah and then now with what's going on.

like Saudi Arabia United Arab Emirates. like you can get paid insane amounts of. money like if you're Floyd people just. want to see you perform definitely and. he not just if you Floyd you see Tyson. Fury now went over there and well he's. got fight yeah that's happening in. October that is an interesting thing. that's an interesting thing because you. got a guy in Francis andano who was the. heavyweight champ retired from the UFC. left the UFC as the champ but has zero.

professional boxing fights he has no. chance when I was at when I was doing a. uh interview at the UFC a gym they asked. me about the fight I said he have no. chance Tyson FY all day you talking. about one of the best heavyweights ever. ever you know what I mean and you think. this guy with no boxing experience gonna. come in there and just beat him he don't. hit harder than t uh he don't he don't.

hit harder than de Wilder no nobody hits. harder so so what you think this guy. going to do with them 10 oz gloves on. now with 4 oz six oun what he wear he. probably strong but yeah add some more. ounces on you know it's a different game. he's going to get tired you know it's. going to be it's going to be a different. game yeah he's he doesn't have the. experience and to go from listen I think. that he could have a he's also. 36 you know he could have a career as a.

heavyweight boxer because he hits so. [ __ ] hard if they built him up and he. starts fighting guys and you know. different styles and and gets to the. point where he's really got experience a. few years down the line he could fight. world class Fighters I think he could. fight good boxers if if he learns those. lessons I don't know to do it at 36. that's what I'm saying that's that's a. little up there you know that's up there. it's going to take it's going to take. some years to develop them a long time.

to take them through them steps and get. tested and yeah you know he walking. right into the championship with nothing. it's kind of crazy yeah I commend him. though he well he wants the bag he's. going to get a big one I I don't know. what he's going to get paid but it's. going to be more money than he's ever. made before right I believe him yeah. that's why all those MMA guys coming. over to boxing mhm trying to you know. they see Conor McGregor they like oh. yeah made all that money yeah let me try. yeah that was a fascinating fight Conor. versus Floyd it was fascinating cuz.

Conor's a talented fighter but to just. jump right in against the best ever like. it's. just hey he did what he had to do he. yeah got that bag that's that's all it. it it comes down to you know uh. solidifying yourself and taking care of. your family yeah you know that's that's. why I say a lot of people they look at a. a lot of these boxers that have a loss. and then they just think they not good.

or you know great man them guys train. their ass off you know what these. Fighters go through in the MMA and. boxing and Fighters go through the most. to just entertain and put food on the. tables for their family and they. children take care of them and they they. don't get the recognition and respect. that they deserve. no you know you see all these other. sports they get praised but boxing and.

MMA is man that [ __ ] is hard it's like. you versus one man like brutally like. trying to kill each other you know for. for some money you know for people to be. cheering and it's like you don't know. the fight is the easy part you seen like. you don't see the injuries I had to. overcome in training camp you don't see. all the mornings I had to get up when I. was tired you didn't see all the you. know uh the the hard other training that.

I had to do to get to right now they. they see things right now they don't see. the years that I had to to do just to. get to this point you know they don't. see all the sacrifices I had to make to. get to this point they just see you. right now right you know they could have. been a fan of you from your last fight. but what about you before that last. fight what about you the whole 10 plus. years that youve been doing this sport.

as a professional what about that and. it's just like man like I didn't work my. ass off to get to this point right now. and it's like this [ __ ] didn't come easy. like you might think it is because you. just now. noticing me in my career but this [ __ ]. was hard like like who who who thinks. getting punched in the face and the head. is that's tough living it's tough living. especially at a championship level.

that's tough living I think most people. don't have any comprehension of the. amount of sacrifice the amount of just. determination and will and discipline. that you have to have yeah it's hard man. I. I my kids no no no football no boxing. good for you they hate it but when you. get your your to a point where you can. make decisions on your. own I'm out of it but I rather you keep.

wrestling keep playing basketball it's. College tuition already paid for so. y'all good you know think of something. else go play soccer go play tennis or. something go play baseball you know um. coming up in in in the hood there three. things that that the black. community uh rais basketball football. boxers wrestlers as well but you can't. make no money at wrestling that's UFC.

but yeah like come on now there's other. sports that you can. do golf they make a lot of money. baseball they make a lot of money soccer. they make a [ __ ] ton of money so it's. like you know when when they little they. just like I want to make a lot of money. I want to be a basketball player well. you're not going to be 65 you're G to be. 411 it's always the real real short you.

know kids that's talking about they want. to go to the to the uh NBA and always I. always get mad when the people say you. can be whatever you want to be no you. can't that was a lie you cannot be. whatever you want to be no matter what. you say how hard you train genetics is. genetics yep you know uh football you. might be too small basketball you might. be too short you can't be the president. just cuz you want to be the President.

right so don't tell this person he can. be whatever you want to be then you grow. up thinking I want to be the president. well you can try I'm not going to kill. your dreams but it's going to be hard. for you to be the president yeah well at. least the president doesn't rely too. much on genetics yeah because we were. talking about this last night that um. there's there's levels upon levels upon. levels and and the truly Elite have. everything they have talent they have.

the mind for it they have the genetics. and they have the training and they have. the discipline because some really. talented people don't work as hard. definitely we've we've all encountered. that's the Buster Douglas story right. super talented just only really applied. himself during the Tyson fight you know. in Camp and look at look how he came out. his mama died he was de at and. heartbroken he decided he was going to. win the fight for his mother trained. like a [ __ ] demon and came out and.

outboxed Tyson was hitting him with that. jab left hook like what yeah like who. [ __ ] expected that he looked so good. he looked like an all-time great in that. fight I remember uh watching that fight. and watching the uh the Tyson Holyfield. fight in my mom living room on the the. box TVs with the big backs and. stuff yeah man I used to be like man. dang man it was kind of it was kind of.

sad watching Tyson lose his first fight. it was unbelievable even though I saw. the fight after the result I didn't see. the fight when it happened I saw it. afterwards I knew what happened and I. still couldn't believe it I'm like he's. gonna get up he's going to get up he's. going to win he always wins he's going. to win yeah you couldn't believe that's. how revered Mike Tyson was everything. was like silent like crazy everybody was. just like what and then like when Roy. Jones Jr got knocked out by Tarver yeah.

like man people was crying in my house. like we was well we was at my Coach. House people was crying I was like man I. was like heartbroken like like you know. like when you go on a roller coaster. then you go down in your stomach sink in. that's how I was like oh Ro I know dang. man like. I couldn't believe it I'm like man I. just knew Roy was gonna win I was like. man he shouldn't fought him.

again I was like I was like he should. have just took the win and didn't fight. him again well he had gone all the way. up to heavyweight and all the way back. down to light heavyweight and I think. that weight cut was brutal but he still. won though yeah he shouldn't have fought. him again. right I sound like a little kid I know. should have fought him again man and I. like and I and I'm cool cool as hell. with tarer you know what I mean both of. them T's great fighter you know what I. mean but he shouldn't have fought him.

again but when he when they were uh. reading the uh instructions to him and. he said you got any excuses tonight Roy. yeah I was like oh my God that was Heavy. yeah and he went on to knock him out. that's legendary that was a rough one. but for me the rougher one was Glenn. Johnson yeah when Glenn Johnson knocked. him out because he was stiff and it was. right after the Tarver knockout and he. didn't even looked like hit him that. hard I just think you know after that. Roy just couldn't take the punches no. more right cuz it seemed like you know.

his body wasn't reacting the same way to. to the to the punches you know every. time he get hit with a clean shot is. like rattl on you know and I always tell. people it's not the it's not the punch. it's your. brain you got to have that water a lot. of people be dehydrating they s to the. fact where you. know they they losing too much water in. their brain and then once they get hit.

their brain is knocking against nothing. it's your score and then that that that. that snap that's what knocks him out. yeah you see a lot of that in MMA guys. cut a tremendous amount of weight in MMA. man you know I got friends that uh. that's in the MMA and I never seen. somebody lose so much weight in one day. just to make weight it's crazy it's like. man them dudes losing like 12 lbs more.

I'm like how how y'all losing so much. weight in one day like nah y'all. crazy yeah and they can't even use IVs. yeah you guys can use IVs to rehydrate. can't use IVs either no when did they. change. that I ain't never knew it they they. they Chang. anything think that was legal cuz you. know when Floyd fought uh Pacquiao that. was a thing. that he was using IVs or something like. that but yeah you can't you can't use. that.

stuff yeah that was the way the fighters. always recuperated they always took IVs. and then usada came along and apparently. you can use a US you can use uh the IV. to mask performance-enhancing drugs so. that's why they outlawed it yeah I think. that was a thing I think the weight. cutting and MMA is they should ban it. and I don't know how they could do it. but y'all need more weight classes. that's. problem cuz when when you talking about. lightweight then you going from what is. it 155 155 to 170 yeah 155 to 170 it's a.

giant jump how about 185 to 205 yeah. that's what I'm saying so it's like yeah. man we got to cuz yeah we we we damn. sure a can't go up there yeah you're one. of the only Elite boxers that can. wrestle yeah has anybody ever come to. you and said Terrence what do you think. yeah dip your toes in the MMA water I. don't get paid or enough but if you did. nope nope ain't nobody about to be.

kicking. me hey look we can wrestle we can fight. but them kicks yeah no I don't care what. nobody man them kicks is dangerous bro. especially them kicks in the leg did you. see when uh Muhammad Ali was yep doing. that exhibition with that kickboxer yeah. yeah boy tore him up. Ali up man yeah now you now you respect. that sport I respect it I respect.

it we can we can fight and wrestle all. day I Ain them kicks and elbows have you. ever trained with any of that stuff you. ever tried to train boy Tai or. N I trained ju jishu a little bit here. and there yeah but um them kicks and. elbows nah them. dangerous them dangerous and they sneaky. too cuz when you not when you're not. used to getting kicked you know I mean. you can think somebody about to punch. you and they boom and you block you.

don't block kicks like you block punches. right so you might be trying to Parry. something then there you go Ali versus. inoi and in noi was lying on his back. which is even crazier and with shoes on. yeah tearing tearing Ali legs up man. yeah just kicking at his legs but just. know what the the way they they fought. was so crazy that he just Dr dropped. down to his back and was throwing kicks. no gloves he had no gloves on but I. don't think I don't think he punched him.

oh look at leg lock look at. that yeah man you got to be aware of. everything very dangerous. too very dangerous cuz legs can get torn. apart your knees man get ruined your toe. y kicking somebody your toe your fingers. fo y'all go through a lot yeah man. man y'all go through a lot them MMA. dudes. man. $5,000 to show up$ 5,000 to win 5,000.

for B in. show like hell no yeah well that's the. guys coming out yeah yeah yeah I know. but I'm just saying that's how it is in. in UFC too yeah I they might get a. little more money but they be same thing. like 20 20 million I mean not 20 million. 20,000 20,000 20,000. 20,000 so they fighting their ass off to. get that bonus yeah it's true fight they.

ass off to get that bonus I don't like. the win bonus yeah I do not like that at. all I think that because first of all. there's bad decisions yeah and when you. have a bad decision and someone gets cut. out like if if a guy's making 50 and 50. and then there's a bad judge call and. you lose. $50,000 because people are incompetent. at their job happens all the time so why. don't why don't they just change it to a. like boxing like a flat purse they. should I don't know I'm not responsible. it's not my side of the game I'm just a.

commentator change it to Flat purse 100%. yeah like we like boxers man win lose. draw yeah we getting x amount that's on. that contract yes and that's it that's. how it should be CU it's not like. anybody doesn't try to win yeah because. they think that they're going to you. know get their money either way they're. going to win try to win do be fin ass. off man they be busted. up all all the way out here teeth in. they mouthpiece yep like man them dudes.

like come. on man you talking about Gladiator. Warriors that's that's what they is man. do you watch a lot of UFC yeah yeah yeah. I'll be watching. it who stands out for you who you who. you John Jones yeah John Bones Jones. that's my guy I like. um dang man I it' be hard to say his. name he just he just beat the dude that. beat him have a uh Israel Israel yeah.

yeah I like Israel oh he's amazing. Israel cool that dude he beat that that. beat him and he just beat man that dude. big dude man he's huge yeah he big that. guy gots a lot of weight yeah cuz he. weighed in at 185 lbs and then he fought. at 225 yeah he was 225 when he got into. the ring yeah that's crazy. then my guy that just beat Shuda um Al. Al yeah he's F weekend I was just down.

there with him I was when I was uh. training we was training twice together. before that fight and after he was doing. physical therapy we was supposed to be. playing basketball so if you're watching. aljo you still got to get on that court. and with old boy. now yeah yeah he's fighting this weekend. against Char Aly that's a it's a big. fight yeah yeah do you ever go to those. live yeah I went to a few of them live. yeah I went to a few of them live I. think I went to uh the last one I went. to was uh Amanda new Amanda she was.

fighting. uh dang I forgot her name but two guys. from Omaha Drew dolbert okay and. um he fought Jon Jones too he from Omaha. I forgot his name you put Omaha on the. map yeah you really did like people talk. about Omaha now a lot Smith Anthony. Smith okay yeah Anthony Smith yeah yeah.

Drew Dober and Anthony Smith was. fighting on the same car so I went there. to support them and Amanda I like Amanda. she the go yeah she's amazing she had to. retire because her legs are so damaged. from kicking she goes too much kicking. ass like she got nerve damage in her. legs see yeah it's never going to go. away probably not yeah so you got to. think you getting shins slammed into. those nerves over and over again slammed.

into your calves you ever been calf. kicked No don't kick. me we not about to do none of that don't. don't kick me listen my legs is skinny. we not about to do it hey he kick me. jump him yeah do you think there's any. boxers that would be in that would ENT I. mean the only person that's Elite that. ever fought in the MMA realm was uh Jam. James Tony got choked out but he don't. got no wrestling background he didn't I. don't think he even trained for it yeah.

I interviewed him before that fight he. was making up kick names like I think he. traded I think he just boxed you know he. just hoping he' catch him with a Punch. Yeah. nah first thing they G to do is shoot. first they GNA fake faint the uh the. punch up top and then they going to. shoot mhm if you don't know how to spraw. sh R yeah sh rap see wrestling man I. always say man I'm a boxer but I can.

wrestle if a wrestler grab you I don't. care what you know I don't care who you. is it's over with if you don't not a. wrestler right over with yeah and. nothing you can do and nine times out of. 10 a street fight going to end up on the. ground mhm period so if you don't knock. him out before he grab you you or in the. mix of him trying to grab you it's over. with yeah it's over with I hope you in.

shape I will them poke them in the eye. bite them something but you know. wrestlers they tough yeah so you might. bite them they might be like bite harder. yeah put you in a choke C and then it's. over with wrestling is such a tough. tough Sport and there's no accolades. there's no glory there's no World. Championship where you're making. millions of dollars it's just all for. the the glory of winning mhm that's all. there is to it and those are some of the.

toughest human beings alive yeah Elite. wrestlers like want to talk about hard. work I didn't been I didn't been through. some of them did you wrestle in high. school no I wrestled in middle school. middle school I stopped in middle school. because your boxing CER started taking. off I actually got kicked out of school. really yeah what happened I was I was. playing around with the kids me and my. uh friends we had the little keys so we. was going through the uh through the.

hallways and we were scratching each. other neck with the keys so like just. say if you it's somebody right here in. the middle of us and you don't see me. and I go over here and I scratch you on. the neck with the key and you just be. like a and we just start dying like that. was the thing to do back then like and. uh his little soft self went to to the. nurse he was like and then the nurse. asked him what happened he was just like. oh me and my friend Terence was playing. around he scratched me with a key and so.

they brought me to the office and. expelled me cuz they said I was using. the weapon wow yeah I had I got expelled. for the half of the whole school year. had to go to an arter School wow. yeah it was crazy but I was quitting. wrestling anyway I wrestling was tough. man them dudes was kicking my ass. no but I think there's something about. your wrestling background that helps you. in the clinch definitely definitely I.

still always mess around wrestling to. this day you know um yeah that that. wrestling get you physically strong it. get you you know I mean your foundation. first and. foremost everything come from your. foundation so if you got a good base. good foundation you're going to be hard. to move for anybody mhm you know that's. why you know you see those sumo. wrestlers you know they foundation and. they base is just like hm right and you.

can try your hardest to move them and. they just sitting there and just like. yeah man how I'm not able to move this. dude and I'm pushing him it's just they. got that base and that Foundation yeah. there was a discussion I forget what. what experts were talking about that but. they were factoring in your wrestling. background and they were saying that. there's something about Terrence when. he's in the clinch that's different than. other people is because your ability to. manipulate bodies so way you can move. people around and then also what you do. I think better than anybody ever you.

land punches in tight spaces in tight. spaces where you just find the chin you. know you're you're so good at like those. tight. hooks you know and you're you're yeah. man it's just it's so it's it's just. very impressive to be able to pull that. off on a guy like Errol Spence. yeah that's something that um me and my. coaches was working on shoren up your. shots because if you're watching the uh.

few of my past fights I kind of open up. I kind of throw my shots too wide uh. Leave Myself open so that was something. that we was working on in Camp and I. always told the reporters and people. that interview me it ain't about Spence. I don't got to change anything up for. Spence I just got to make sure I'm. prepared and I'm 110% ready for myself.

and all I got to do is be myself and. then I believe I'll be anybody was there. ever a time where you wondered or were. you worried that you weren't going to. get that big fight as you're like 35. years old you get become 36 3 and then. you you're in the position like Arthur. better be of who's 19 and0 19 Knockouts. everyone's [ __ ] terrified of the guy. can't get a big fight just can't get. that big Marquee fight definitely I was. like I told you I was in a u process of.

thinking about retiring you know because. I was just like man I'm not going to get. that spense fight you know but um it's. worth a shot you know to go back and um. try to see if we can land that fight but. I'm not about to get you know I'm not. about to just take anything just for the. fight right you know a lot of fans and a. lot of people in the media they felt as. if I should just take anything but they.

not the one fighting they not the one. that you know um been doing this their. whole life so for them to tell me just. take this or just take that you know. uh given if I was to put them in the. same predicament that I'm. in and all the accolades that I have. would they do the same thing or would. they just take whatever somebody just. going to give them you know I I had to. stand for something to get to a point in.

my life where you know I can get. everything that I want you know and I. feel like uh. me standing standing my ground and. standing staying firm and true to myself. and not switching up and not you know. um over over overdoing it led me to this. moment right here one of the things that. happens with some boxers is they leave a.

lot in the gym in sparring sessions and. that they just Spar too hard they have. too many hard sparring sessions how. often do you Spar I Spar Tuesday. Thursday and. Saturdays some of them be. hard you know I mean that's just how it. is you can't. you can't replace you know um I would. say like Tech. spa and like soft Spawn from you know a.

comparison to get ready for a fight. because it you fight how you Spar you. Spar how you fight and if I'm in there. just doing this. H catch catch H then when the fight come. and everything is full blast full speed. I'm not gonna be able to keep up because. I didn't train that way right I can hit. the bag I can hit the M all that I want. but nothing's coming back right I'm not.

feeling that presence of a person. pushing me hitting me holding me things. like that so um sparring is very. important and not saying that you have. to you know go hard every single time. you Spar but there got to be days where. you know that fighter is trying to put. it on you because now you're getting. used to that and now your body is. getting in shape to withstand the rounds. the time the you know the the um the.

grappling the holding the hitting all. that so you need that how do you judge. when you're doing too much hard sparring. your body will tell you I'm a firm. believer listening to my body you know. so I've been doing this a long time my. coaches they've been doing this just as. long or or longer or bag longer well we. all started you know uh this journey on. uh when I was 2008 when I turned Pro so.

they've been around me since I was a kid. so they know when my body is breaking. down or when I'm complaining about. something bo be like all right well we. going to do this today we going to do. this today and I'll be like man what he. be like we going to do this I like man I. don't want to do that man I want to work. cuz as a fighter I want to work hard. every day but it's up to your coaches to. know when to pull back when it take days.

off oh no you ain't working out today. huh you ain't working out today you've. been working out hard you know today off. or some days we going in there you be. like oh we going to do four round. sparring like what yeah we going to do. four round. sparring all right y'all got it so. things like that so it's just a trust. and an understanding that your your. coaches know you as good or better than.

you know you definitely definitely yeah. you know so they going to tell me you. know um some days they going to say man. you ain't got no energy today did you. eat some days I'll be like no I didn't. eat before I came oh I could tell you. know or you moving kind of slow you all. right you know so it's very important. that you be honest with your coaches as. well because a lot of people you know. they tend to keep certain things away. from them and then when when things go.

left then the coaches is the blame when. the coaches wasn't aware of everything. that was going on with you so if you got. you know injuries or you're not feeling. well or you know something's not right. or something is going. on as a team you got to let your team. know because that's why they there and. that's why they able to pick up on. certain things like you know you. overtraining or you not you know getting.

enough rest what time you going to sleep. at night you know um you need to put the. foam down at this time and you know just. all that do you monitor your resting. heart rate your heart rate variability. do you do any of that stuff yeah I do. all that yeah you know um in the. mornings so um when I get up in the. morning we put it on my finger then we. monitor that and then it takes your. blood. oxygen uh your oxygen level uh the heart.

rate and all that stuff and so from. there you could say okay I'm a little. tired or there I'm a little overworked. not really easier today not not really. you know sometimes you can you I go off. of that but you know I just go off of. how my body feel you know I just use. that. for just how much oxygen I'm taking in. and um the levels that I'm at so once I. start cutting weight all right this what.

I've been at this this this range once I. start cutting weight then I can compare. the two and how far out do you start. cutting weight uh I probably cut weight. probably. like two weeks two to three weeks and so. that's just a a decrease in calories. yeah is there anything else that goes. along with that is it an increase in. cardio or anything else no just. everything is the same is just you know. decreasing the amount of food intake you. know we start cutting the food probably.

like in. portions then you know uh we probably. change up the times of the. workouts and then when you get down to. the day of the Ws how much weight are. you actually. cutting none none none so when you weigh. in that's natural yeah like the day of. the weighin I'm not cutting none that's. beautiful I used to I used to have to. cut like 5 lbs in the morning of the Ws. you know um did you feel that the next.

day n not really sometimes but not. really but it's better to not yeah cuz I. always I just. rest resting is most important like I. just sit in the bed all day especially. when I was at 135 I didn't do nothing I. was cutting weight cutting weight. cutting weight 140 cutting weight. cutting weight and know uh but yeah like. that [ __ ] tough like this this this last. fight with Spence it was tough you know.

but I I try to make weight you know at. least the night. before so I could sleep in sleep uh as. long as possible to the weigh-ins and. you know uh go from there and what do. you do for Recovery do you have anything. specific that you do for Recovery. massages song. anything along those lines I I get. massages I don't use a SAA no no I don't. use a SAA um that's pretty much it just.

you know normat tech oh those leg things. yeah those are great norm tech massage I. hate the clo cold plunge I did I did it. for the first time this uh this this. this camp and man I tell you I I was. freezing I always thought my balls was. gonna be freezing but. my [ __ ] fingers was cold fingers toes. my toes wasn't cold I was so I was so. cold I couldn't even feel my feet I was.

in there like this I was trying to put. my put my hands under my under my. armpits and I was just shaking like this. and I was just like I'm about to get out. they was just like they was motivating. me and I was like man I can't man this. is the hardest thing that I ever did. because I'm anemic so me and cold don't. you're anemic yeah I got to take iron. pills really yeah interesting is that. before you stopped red beat always. really when I was little yeah so I got.

to go from the cold then they put me in. the in the hot and then it felt like. needles was shocking my body like. needles was going through I'm like dang. you know what I mean I felt good then. they was like all right you got to go. back in the cold plunge for one minute. no it was 2 minutes 2 minutes I was like. what like come on so I went up in there. then I was like all right get out you. done I said I don't go back in the hot. they was like no I was like oh man but I. was I was I was cool that I did it you.

know that it was something that you know. I wouldn't do and I did it for the first. time and I I felt like I accomplished. something how did you feel after you got. out I felt good yeah I felt good but the. crazy part about that is two days after. that I had got a. cold and I was like I was messed up and. I was like man was it was it cuz of that. but found out that it was the uh the air. conditioner in the house it was blowing. right on my face oh on my bed I sleep.

with the cover over my head I don't know. why I've been that yeah I've been doing. that since I was a little kid so uh we. looked up and and sure enough I was just. like man and it was like on like. 62 so it was freezing in the house and I. was just like man I turned off. everything in the house it was all hot. everybody was trying kept trying to turn. the uh hair back on like man turn that.

off like No And it's. 120 in uh in Vegas I'm like. yeah it's it's it's it's that turn it. off I was just like man I can't I ain't. never experienced that ever in my life I. never got sick during fight week. really ever so how sick did you get I. was I was sick for one day I was like. down like I was down but.

like yeah how far out from the fight was. that a week oh [ __ ] we so I was down but. I was just like man that one day I was I. was I was hurting but then you know my. nutritionist she gave me some vitamin C. got I was uh my nutritionist my chef he. gave me a whole bunch of oranges and. melons and. grapefruit big old Bowl you ain't eating.

no meat this is what you eating all day. I was like what he was like yeah trust. me and I ate that's all I ate the whole. day and the next day I felt better I was. like oh all right we we back to normal. well we wasn't all the way back to. normal cuz my coach didn't let me work. out but yeah we was good how many days. did you have to take off from that cold. just just one and a half oh not that bad. yeah so that one day I didn't do nothing.

then the next day I didn't go uh to the. gym I didn't work out in the gym and. then a day or so later yeah you're back. in yeah well that's fortunate that would. have sucked if that happened a couple. days out yeah yeah and then [ __ ] up your. weight cut. too. yeah I would had to find away isn't it. crazy though when you think about all. the things that have to come together so. perfectly peing in your conditioning. peing in your physical training your.

your Technical Training everything's got. to come together everything but when you. when you when when you done this. for so long you know you know what you. got to do to get there you know. um I think I peaked like twice during. this camp. you know I was working so hard I was. just like man I wanted this so bad it. was like all right we got to pull you. back all right and when they pull you.

back like for how long just a couple of. days pull you back you know cuz you you. looking too sharp in the in the gym you. weigh you weigh above schedule so we got. to pull you back working too hard get. you some rest that's such a fascinating. aspect of the training because it's just. so on feel and knowing and just having. an understanding of the of the athlete. yeah cuz you as the fighter you want to. feel good you want to look sharp you.

want to you know feel all those things. but your coaches on on the outside they. like okay we still got like three four. weeks you know and he's looking like. this at this point in time when we want. him like that at the till end you know. so pull them back a little. bit it's just it's such a dance it's. such a like a perfectly orchestrated.

dance yeah everything has to line up. have you ever had a fight where you pee. too early no never not that I know of I. would. say well listen Terrence what you've. done is amazing it's uh as a person. excuse me as a person who's a boxing fan. it's beautiful to see I I love watching. like I said I love Excellence I love. when someone is just at the the top the. very top of the game of the sport of. everything and that's you right now man.

I hope you enjoy it congratulations it's. an honor to talk to you thank you thank. and I'm I'm a giant fan man thank you. very much appreciate it thanks uh tell. everybody social media so they could hit. you up you can reach me. on Twitter well they call it X now I. don't know what that is at uh Terence. Crawford and then you can re reach me on. uh IG at tbug Crawford or Facebook. Terence Terence Crawford you're the.

[ __ ] man bro yes thank you very much. appreciate you being here all right bye. everybody. [Music]. [Applause]. [Music].