JRE MMA Show #144 with Jared Cannonier

[Music]. by night. bro here we go Jared karenir ladies and. gentlemen. hey what what a [ __ ] crazy couple of. weeks of fights has been man there's so. much to talk about you know this last. Main Event oh my God I'm still I'm still. like in shot that Justin gaichi head.

kick knockout yeah Dustin Poirier I'm. like oh my God I mean we all knew that. that fight was gonna be supplemented. yeah something big was going to happen. in that fight so when it did and how it. happened it was beautiful beautiful. execution of that uh of that technique. by uh Justin gaichi to get that head. kick off it was. beautiful it landed beautifully. and he followed up nicely well it wasn't. a follow-up he was on his way I think. the ref stopped it I think he did land. one hammer fist yeah but yeah it was. perfect it was a direct mirror image of.

Leon Edwards kick yeah on the opposite. side in the same place yeah crazy that's. crazy crazy something's going on oh man. there's I tell you one thing and you. could tell me if this is uh if you feel. it as a fighter but there's something. about the energy in an arena when you go. to a place that really appreciates that. you're there because like we're in Vegas. a lot you guys fight in Vegas all the. time people are they get a little used. to the fact that the UFC's there yeah. but when you bring it somewhere like.

Salt Lake City they get [ __ ] hyped up. those people were there for the first. fight of the night the place was packed. and there's this wild feeling in the air. like everybody's excited does it as a. fighter does that affect you. well absolutely you know when you hear. the crowd reacting to the fighting pull. that pull the mic right in front of you. yeah when you hear the crowd reacting to. the fight in itself you know you get. energy from it you know uh I get. invigorated by it or I get checked by it.

you know what I mean if the guy's doing. something good and the crowd's loving it. I'm gonna uh make I'm gonna put a stop. to that so I like to take control of it. in a sense but yes it is uh. it's a it's a factor yeah it is a huge. factor for some you know for some it. isn't some people can just stay focused. and stay on the rails and handle their. business you know but uh I like it you. know but I like I like fighting in the. uh do you like the Apex as well I like. the Apex as well because I find that. fighting in the Apex is a lip is a bit.

more personal you know what I mean I can. hear my opponent breathing I can hear. his exertions I can hear his corner I. can hear my corner a little bit better. you know you can hear uh you can eat you. know there's still a crowd there and you. can hear them so you still get the feel. of the crowd as well of a crowd. you know although it's not that big it's. not as big but you know but you can hear. everything you can hear the commentators. too you know so I feel like when I'm at. the Apex I feel like lucky like oh I'm. lucky to be one of the people to be here.

like when Francis fought steepe at the. Apex during the height of kovid I was. like we are so lucky we get to be here. live for this there's only like 30. people in this place. that's that thing Man it makes it feel. personal yeah it's personal for the uh. those in attendants in attendance as. well yeah well yeah those in attendance. and even people watching at home I think. you get a sense of that yeah from that. like it's it's like you're watching us. like a fight in a gym yeah you know it.

really is it's like a high-tech gym I. mean that's kind of what they did it's. kind of what the UFC did they just made. their own gym and they made their own. Arena yeah a little intimate Arena and. it's great for Tuesday night fights too. yeah. you can just go there and handle. business and then go back to whatever. else he was doing yeah and the uh Pi. like putting something like that such a. high-tech like state-of-the-art gym. where guys can do their camps there.

yes the pi has been. uh gold mine for a lot of guys. especially those guys in Vegas I've used. it a few times but I don't really get up. there too too often you know so um. but I can imagine if I did live there. I'd be in the pi all the time maybe once. twice a day they do they really help. guys uh scientifically cut weight. correctly too and give them an. assessment of whether or not they can do. it and be healthy when they're doing it. yeah that weight cutting came is a crazy.

game and you are you got a wild career. man because you start off at if you wait. you go down to 205 and now down to 85 is. anybody else done that and been as. successful as you I don't think so. I don't think anybody's like I don't. think anybody's going down. you know Conor McGregor's gone up he. hasn't been as successful but he's just. successful in anything he does you know. right but I'm saying like has anybody. ever started out as a heavyweight and. gotten down to become an elite. middleweight no I don't think I think.

everybody's only gone before yeah it's. what well you know well. Vitor has gone up he's fought up at. heavyweight oh yeah he did. middleweight would have been his correct. weight class I think if he started today. like what he wound up in I think that's. the correct weight class yeah with. weight cutting well I would say the same. thing about me too yeah I'm not no. natural heavyweight right so right and I. knew that while I was fighting Heaven I. was just an undisciplined heavyweight if.

you will you know so well you probably. walk around in heavyweight all the time. well absolutely yeah I think I think a. lot of us middleweights [ __ ] that walk. around it light heavyweight or. like what is the heaviest you get when. you walk around be honest as a. middleweight now yes the heaviest I've. gotten. um was 125 no yeah 225 225 yeah so I'm. about 220 right now but I haven't been.

back to training as consistently as I. would like to be I'm so crazy that you. say that so casually because you look. great you look super fit and the idea of. you being able to lose that much weight. is so Bonkers yeah well you know water. weighs a lot you know yeah so I burn a. lot of water well that's also you you. there's like a I guess they break it. down when you do it with someone like. you know that's a a real expert in. dehydration they break it down like how. much muscle mass you have and the more.

muscle mass you have you could actually. muscles mostly water you could suck more. that's why guys like yoel Romero were. able to make you know 185 when he's a. big guy yeah he's [ __ ] big yeah just. a thick thing you know from top to. bottom yeah. 185 for even more than 13 seconds. yeah now he's doing 205 but you know. he's a top Contender at 185 for a long. time yeah. for him though right yeah because he was.

so big I would say but I you know I was. never there for any of them so what do I. know when you do yours how far out do. you do you just start to change your. diet and like when how how much time did. they like if the UFC calls you up and. says we want you to fight for World. title in two weeks. in two weeks you can't get down there in. two weeks I mean well I haven't done it. before but I'm sure I could hell yeah I. could. right. but yeah ideally what would you want to. how much time do you need to get all the.

way down. comfortably four weeks at the very four. weeks it's at least you know what I mean. but six weeks to be the you know is a. general consensus for fight camps eight. weeks for those who want to put a little. extra on it right but like how much of. the camp is centered around being. careful with your weight how much do you. think about it I would say the whole. Camp you know what I mean because uh. when I'm not in campus I don't have a. fight coming up I don't really pay. attention to you know saying my portion.

sizes yes and that's the big thing is. the portion sizes and the the quality of. the meats that I'm putting in my body as. well you know so um I changed from. eating less red meat for sure you know I. eat more salmon more fish. um. and Portion sizes again for me is. important the work output as long as I'm. going to the gym and making my. appointments that I've made for myself. and I'm going to the gym twice a day I. burn I burn it off and I sweat it I. sweat off a lot too you know so.

I can. as long as I got at least four weeks I. can make it happen and you know where. I'm at now but when I'm training you. know what I mean I'm around. 210 215. and all I have to do is change my diet. I'll drop about. 10. 12 pounds in about two or three weeks. and then cut the weight okay that's not. that much then so then you really just.

cutting about 10 fight week yeah yeah so. that's that's a healthy way to do it. yeah no I'm not sure enough fight week. at 220. yeah no absolutely there's some. guys that have done some Wild Cuts some. really Wild Ones or you're just like did. you just not prepare for this at all do. you just try to wing it did you put it. off yeah what how did you allow yourself. to come in so big and try to cut so much. just miscalculations or maybe just to. get caught with opportunity to get. called with an opportunity that they can.

refuse right no matter what and they. actually they're in yeah they couldn't. have made it yeah they don't want to be. the ones that say no sometimes do you. ever Envision uh a time where the sport. would have no weight cutting or they. would just match people up by weight. when there's no way cutting no way. cutting what if there was more weight. classes yeah but no weight cutting I. think that'll be fine I would love that. actually to make it more of a natural. competition you know what I mean as. opposed to people trying to get the edge.

over trying to get the edge on their. opponent it seems like a crazy Edge to. agree to yeah like if we were like I I. firmly believe that if weight cutting. did exist and then people started doing. it now they would try to ban it they. would try to say don't do that that's. dangerous you're 24 hours before you're. gonna have a [ __ ] cage fight you're. gonna dehydrate yourself to death's door. to death's door I've seen some dudes. that were on death's door really oh uh. Travis Luder when he fought Anderson. Silva was the worst I ever saw a man.

when he was cutting weight Travis. couldn't walk he was shuffling to the. scale yeah and he missed weight he. missed weight in a world title fight and. he had a real shot against Anderson. because his Jujitsu was phenomenal okay. his Jiu Jitsu was phenomenal yeah he. took Anderson down he got caught a. triangle and got beat up. but he was the closest I saw it did like. I looked that guy I'm like oh my God. like if I found that guy in the desert. I'd get him right to the hospital yeah. I'd be like holy [ __ ] bro you okay like.

have some water we didn't get a chance. we're gonna get you somewhere Jesus. Christ like that's what he looked like. wow just out of it huh just sucked in. just when you're you're almost killing. yourself you're taking all the water out. of your body and then you're putting it. back in. uh 24 hours before the most extreme. physical combat sport that's currently. available yeah which is MMA audio Bible. you know in America yeah well you know. there's some left way [ __ ] they wouldn't. like disagree there's more extreme yeah. but that's why I wouldn't do no extreme.

wake up myself you know what I'm saying. yeah I told that's why I said that's why. what uh middleweight is where I'm. stopping I could probably do. welterweight with a a strict diet over a. period of time wow it would be a giant. and told me yeah but uh wow but that. would be uncomfortable for me that'll be. uncomfortable if I wouldn't be able to. live the way I want to I wouldn't be. able to eat the way I would like you. know what I mean I remember I ran into. Rumble rest in peace I ran into Anthony. Rumble Johnson in a hotel lobby and I go.

how big are you and this is when he's. fighting at welterweight he goes I'm 230. right now I'm like no no no no no no no. no no no no no no no no no no no he was. in town for the fights just to watch but. you you couldn't believe how big he was. and then he would make it down to 170. wow even if that was fired I would that. would explain some of his uh uh missed. wake us showing up to fight week at 2. 30. I don't think the UFC now would let. allow something like that to happen I.

felt like that probably not well there's. so much more uh you know there's some. more eyes on Fighter's behavior and what. they're allowed to do and not allowed to. do yeah which I think there's a lot of. it like I was having a conversation with. Jeff Nowitzki about it like that they. are trying to introduce things like. peptides. and allow fighters to use things that. help them heal from injuries and give. them exemptions for things like that. because it's only beneficial to the. fighter and their ability to heal from.

injuries. that are really a lot of people at least. anecdotally there I mean there are some. studies on bpc157 I don't know what the. full date is but I know that the doctors. that I work with and the people that I. know believe in it a lot and it used to. be legal for UFC fighters then they they. banned it they did recently yeah oh I. didn't know that yeah it's a bummer this. is why I don't use uh supplements myself. I only use this uh they give us from. like throwing supplements I think you'll. see it has yeah a partnership with them.

right they're all third party tests too. yeah no [ __ ] in them yeah. so there are some other things like. elements hydration packages I'll I'll. use every now and then those are great I. rarely do I take supplements on top of. that I'm kind of even just taking. consistently to get the benefit from. them so um. there's really no point in it for me so. do you have someone who uh cooks for you. do you have like a meal service to use. my wife your wife yeah there you go. that's perfect because I see some guys.

they like they take it so seriously they. have like stacked up Tupperware. containers that they get from a company. and it measures out their all the carbs. and the protein and it writes it down 50. grams of carbs yeah we got guys like. that in the gym too you know yeah I. think it's just more I think that's more. of a convenience thing you know you. don't have to stand over the stove for. 30 minutes to an hour and a half cooking. and preparing food and stuff like that. whenever I think about people that do. stuff like this I think about Fedor. because Fedor used to fight he had a big.

belly. you know he didn't give a [ __ ] about. portion control yeah I mean he was very. unassuming the way he yes looked. physically but his demeanor he was such. a piece yeah I was listening to oh God I. can't remember who was talking about it. on a podcast I'll try to remember it. might have been to who though I forget. who was talking about it but they were. talking about. oh no it was Rampage it was Rampage. Jackson and he was talking about how. Fedor was his favorite fighter and he. was recalling this moment where Kevin.

Randleman suplexed him and threw him on. his neck and fedor's expression never. changed yeah I saw that clip too is that. wild it's so true because he just no. matter what In the Heat of battle just. stone-faced never no emotion no nothing. stone-faced that just says he saw some. some hard [ __ ] as a child probably yeah. right something. I mean it definitely wasn't easy. whatever he went through was not easy. but that dude is that is a hard man how.

did that fight look at that he commorted. him like right after that but look at. the compression there yeah I mean look. at how he's Landing there that's crazy. Federal kimura's him yeah okay like. right afterwards yeah you want to see it. it's pretty dope yeah it's pretty dope. see see if you can find the Finish yeah. he he when he was going down he tied up. an arm okay. see have you found it.

oh so what just go uh Fedor taps. Randleman yeah I'm sure I've seen it one. point or another. it was incredible. okay here it is so Randleman slams them. oh how did he flip them over already all. right skip it ahead. I want to see the transition. so he takes him down. boom right. oh this is a starter side yeah.

this is yeah this is the start of the. fight this is before he body slammed him. yeah. that'd be nice. do you do you like the idea of that the. 10 minute round oh yeah I think so too. I've imagined like the option to there. it is Boom. crazy. that was nice to the head on the ground. too yeah Pride was a different different. Beast.

oh that was a beautiful roll over that. was beautiful that's beautiful. and then you start throwing his own. knees and then he got the camera off of. this I guess. is that Rampage dude those are hard. shots from the top here. [Music]. these are [ __ ] hard shots. in some knees if he establishes himself.

better North style oh here we go. [Music]. damn. [Applause]. like that dude does not care about. portions. he just eats whatever the [ __ ] he wants. and smashes people yeah I wish I got to. see that guy live. I have a regret you never seen fatal. fight line no no no. no and all the guys from Pride he was. the one I would like to have seen live I.

got a chance to see Crow cop fight live. a bunch of times yeah but. seeing that guy in his prime in Japan. must have been wild that must have been. Wild. so you've been in this game for a number. of generations yeah like yeah if you. were to map the uh MMA uh as a sport how. many generations would you say we were. in right now I guess it's the 30th year. of the UFC and an elite fighter.

what's the average amount of years they. can compete is it probably 10 yeah. average eight to twelve some guys can. extend it. you know Randy Couture extended it you. know some guys can but actually started. late but some guys extend that time. period where you could fight as an elite. fighter but there's only a certain. amount of time so that's kind of a. generation right so it's like 10 years. so I'd say we're at least three. generations in but it's more like four. or five because the generations they.

they change. in terms of like uh. there's like the skill set the skill. sets improve you know I was just having. a conversation with a friend of mine. about how uh people today like. everything they do today they get a. chance to see all the people who've done. it before and it helps you get better. just like there's more if you want to. watch MMA fights in the 1993 when the. UFC one was around you couldn't see. anything like what are you gonna find I.

watched my first MMA fight on a VHS tape. yeah yeah yeah so I I watch people. watching VHS is probably. yeah. and those people that fought in those. things had nothing to look at first yeah. they just went out there and did it and. they just were hoping karate worked. you know. you know they were hoping the Judo was. enough they were hoping that uh. Freestyle Wrestling was enough talk. about going in blind huh I mean those.

are the wildest the wild people I mean. respect the the Pioneers like the Hoist. Gracies and the Ken Shamrocks and the. Dan severns and Don the Predator fries. like those guys those are the Pioneers. man yeah Mark Coleman there was nobody. before them no nobody before them and so. they didn't know what to expect they. just knew that they had it they knew. that they could get paid money to fight. yeah and so they were like okay for as. long as this lasts let's do this and if.

for a while it looked like it was going. to get kicked off cable and then it did. it got banned from cable you could only. get it on DirecTV. that's when I used to get it. I got DirecTV specifically because it. was the only way no it was before Spike. Spike TV was when all that's when it. really took off but that was like. 2005 right. yeah but they there was a long period of. struggle with the UFC yeah both when seg.

had it there's so much suppression it. was so hard for them to to get into. venues and get sanctioned to have them. in certain States it was It's a Grind. when you first started watching MMA how. old were you. when I first started watching yeah. uh so when you saw yourself I was in. Alaska when I first started watching. um when I see my first fight I was in.

Dallas I was transitioning from. College into the military so I was about. 21 20 21. I was 21. yeah so it was just. a fight my mother she had she was uh. adopting children and she had this uh. Ecuadorian a Shaolin Ecuador a Shaolin. monk from ecuadoria right and Ecuadorian. who was who lived in the Shaolin Temple. and trained and lived that life you know.

what I mean and uh he would go outside. and meditate and practice his art. practice Kung Fu and stuff like that and. um he found it on TV I didn't even know. it existed or anything like that and he. he was watching it one day when I came. in and I sat down and watched it I think. I was watching I can't remember the. fight. I believe it was Shogun and somebody. but anyway uh I started fighting it. didn't really pique my interest at the. time but I was interested in it because.

uh. because I I respected the competitive. aspect of it I definitely love martial. arts and I was just seeing these people. fight and stuff but uh I didn't see. myself training at the time. at that time again I was transitioning. from. from college to the Army so when I get. when I get into the army they have a. modern Army combatives program which is. like basic white belt Jiu Jitsu you know. minus a lot of the stuff that we do in. PR in actual Jiu Jitsu but uh once I got.

my first hands-on experience with the. martial arts I was like oh this is. something I need to do with my vessel. with my body this is something I'm meant. to do you know what I mean and even as a. kid you know watching all the kung fu. movies The Ninja Turtles is big I love. the Ninja Turtles. um but all the martial arts stuff I. still you know it interests me and stuff. on top of that my daddy whenever I would. go and visit him. he has a gym in his garage a boxing bag. and me and my brothers would throw the. gloves on and play around not really.

taking it seriously as a martial artist. you know. but once I did it in uh. in the Army I know this is something. that I need to do with my vessel. something I have to throw myself I have. to ingrain my ingraining to myself. so uh. um that was in basic training and then. luckily in AIT we had uh my AIT phase. which is our training phase for our job. in the military.

um my IIT phase my one of my Joe. sergeants was like a level three. combatives uh. uh had like a level three proficiency at. kabad I think it goes like one to four. or five or something like that. and uh. there was a battalion uh combatives. tournament that I could participate in. you know what I mean so we were training. for like a month a month and a half. maybe two months of training uh. uh basic white belt Jiu Jitsu for the. model number combators thing and. I loved it man I was having fun I was.

learning I was exercising I was applying. my mental capacities to something that I. wanted to apply to not something that I. was ordered to apply to or something I. was trained to apply it to right it was. something that I wanted for myself. and uh. those are one of the best times I had in. the military you know one of the best. aspects about the military that I liked. and uh I got all the way to uh second. place in the tournament you know um I.

think I had like four matches so I got. all the way to second place and uh. the guy who took first place was like. some football athlete just some Buck. strong [ __ ] you know what I mean. who um. who was just faster than me you know. what I'm saying my technique wasn't able. to get get it done so I took second. place by points in that one so it was. all good so that's that's the birthplace. yeah your Martial Arts that's my martial. arts and so in the Army combators.

program how much striking do they have. well when you get up to a level three or. four I think that's when they started. incorporating uh striking and that's. what I wanted to do throughout my. they're incorporating grappling and. striking they weren't not there wasn't. MMA I think they did uh it went when you. get to the very tip top of. whatever you're you're training then. they have like an MMA they combine the. MMA but usually it's separate okay so.

it's grappling or strike or striking and. then this is striking like Muay Thai. style striking it seems a little bit. like amateur Muay Thai you know they. have the headgear and the shin guards. and there's no elbows and stuff like. that okay so they they modify it for the. uh so I guess soldiers don't end up. getting hurt and taken out of Duty and. stuff like that yeah but why would you. remove elbows. well they're too goddamn effective to. remove like you want people to be. proficient elbows you want someone in a. hand on hand fight who breaks his hands.

to be able to throw elbows yeah and a. person with really good elbows can do. that but a person who doesn't have good. elbows is doomed it's funny you said it. because I broke my hand in the fight and. I had to finish it with an elbow there. you go with elbows yeah I I can't. imagine why any effective system would. want to remove elbows you could give. guys elbow pads yeah you should have. them at least practicing elbows I mean. PR obviously take care of your training. Partners don't try to smash their face. in yeah well I think again you got to. think of it like the amateurs they don't.

want guys getting cut or right in the. fight you know yeah yeah but but that's. and it's the military they want their. soldiers to be soldiers not. you know world-class Fighters so. yeah but if you're gonna teach them how. to fight teach them all the way like. don't teach them Taekwondo that's what. you know for your military right yeah. that's what I want don't teach them. Taekwondo teach them Muay Thai teach. them MMA it's not that there's anything. wrong with Taekwondo but if you're gonna. train someone to fight like why would. you remove elbows like to put that back. in there yeah you need to be able to.

stop someone that's coming towards you. just some dudes when you watch like like. elbow Masters you know dudes like John. Wayne Parr dudes trying to slice people. up yeah you know sanchai guys you just. know how to step in and smash people. with elbows it's there's a beauty to. elbows yeah oh I'm I'm actually uh. increasing my repertoire with the elbows. and stuff I'm working with uh working. with a few working with a few of the. guys Ben throws some nasty elbows and. and sparring he doesn't wear elbow pads.

but he has such good control awareness. of his distance that you know sometimes. and I'm and I'm not too [ __ ] so I'm. not like running into those either so. there's a little bit of control on both. sides so you know he can just barely. like put him I'm like oh my God. like I can only imagine the amount of. damage you could have done if you really. if we were going at it yeah but I've. been working with him he he brings it. out of me a lot you know working with. Ryan Diaz uh. who comes in who helps me out shows me a. lot of the stuff you know he knows a lot.

of ties and stuff so he's he he's a. Muay Thai specialist himself so did you. ever see the. um the fight between uh Nate Marquardt. and Tyron Woodley and strike force that. was the last fight in the strike for us. right goodness I did see that one oh my. goodness I don't know if that was the. last fight I think that was the last. very last event really yeah and I think. that was the last fight because that was. the main event that fight was insane. that stoppage was insane I mean this is.

like video game stopping right here the. over the top elbows yeah then you hit. him with his elbow uppercut boom oh my. goodness I mean that was a video game. stoppage yeah like people forget like. they missed out on this Nate Marquardt. era when he was at his prime yeah and. that fight is like a great example of it. what year was it. God I'm not sure because I remember. watching that I was a big fan of MMA at.

that point in time. I mean insane combination. boy I want to say what year is that. Jamie that would have been like 20 early. 2010s like maybe 11 yeah that makes. sense. I can't you know I'm kind of bummed out. that like. Bellator and the pfl are going to become. one thing now yeah. I like having a bunch of different. organizations apparently that's what I. keep hearing 2012 2012 yeah rockhold.

versus Kennedy that was a great fight. too damn great fights and strike force. my God Strike Force was one of the few. organizations where you could absolutely. say that it stood like neck and neck. with some of the best UFC fights at the. time yeah you know like when Nate Diaz. or when Nick Diaz was running [ __ ] over. there when he had that fight with cyborg. like when Nick Diaz had that that crazy. fight with Paul Daly insane fight with. Paul Daly and then Frank Shamrock and.

Robbie Lawler. yeah Robbie Lawler fighting Melvin. manhof over there remember that one see. that like you could say that like the. and when Luke rockhold was a champ over. there and then became the champ in the. UFC you could say the like the level of. fighter at in Strike Force at the very. Peak was at the level it was at the same. level of the UFC like Josh Thompson was. over there it was at the very same level. it was just Elite I mean we just got. through watching our uh Woodley fight. last event they had musasi I mean Elite.

Gagarin is a bad [ __ ] Jacare. Souza Tim Kennedy Ryan Couture who's uh. who's a bad [ __ ] too who's. Randy's son. Josh Barnett Daniel Cormier jeez but. Willie went on to become what the what's. way champion after that after that. knockout. yep yes. no wilter yeah after that knockout when. he entered into UFC after that knockout.

yeah for sure it was quite a bit that. Jay here on knockout oh my god oh. yeah there's uh it's it's interesting if. you go back and watch the first UFC and. if someone did like an analysis like. some some Egghead did an analysis of. like what percentage better are Elite. athletes today I would be very curious. yeah I think we ought to be curious I. think that will put into numbers right.

yeah quantifying you know what we're. actually doing with ourselves yeah I. think we can probably put some direction. on how to uh. direct that trajectory maybe even. accelerate it yeah I wonder if you can. accept I mean it's so accelerated right. now I mean nobody's really focusing on. it you know is anybody how many how many. of us are focused on it right and. um combining all this stuff and. progressing it to the level and then. it's only going to get so far because. you can only test it out against the.

current level of competition out there. so. there are factors limiting factors but. if we all focused on a certain thing as. opposed to. if it was like a collective. Consciousness focusing on it like a. think tank or some [ __ ] like that. I think we could speed it up you know. really I think so like how so how what. do you think they could use to speed it. up. well there would definitely have to be. it would definitely be uh over a length.

of time there will be a lot of training. involved right because. um but. I would say with people focusing on it. like you got different expert experts at. different fields right testing [ __ ]. trials and trial and error type stuff. like that you know how science works. right you get a bunch of ideas together. you try you test them out you see you. document the results yeah I see what. you're saying but I also think that's a. big part and this is what a lot of. people disagree with about martial arts.

that it's an art I think it is an art I. think people disagree because they don't. like Arts where people get hurt but I. think it's an art and I think everyone. it's something about whatever it is that. draws them to to that art whether it's. wrestling or it's Muay Thai whatever it. is it draws them to that right and to me. like. you're never going to be able to fix. that with numbers you're never going to. quantify they're like well what drives. someone to become Elite world-class.

Striker and then learn how to wrestle. yeah you know it's it's a different. animal it's a different it's a different. thing like and you gotta let people. figure out what their thing is yeah some. people it's a jiu jitsu thing they just. want to take people down strangle them. and some people it's like no they want. to keep you on the feet and beat the. [ __ ] out of you and you got to let them. figure that out and it's like some of. the best fighters are not necessarily. the most balanced where they're great at. everything but they're so good at one. thing that they can impose that whether.

it's grappling or whether it's striking. it's in it's a really interesting. argument like what's the best approach. is it to be an elite specialist and then. also an elite athlete that can pick up. the other stuff quick or is it better to. be like fully well-rounded like like. Mighty Mouse who's like the most. well-rounded guy ever everything he do. world class yeah ground Game World Class. stand-up world class everything no holes. that's like the guy if I had to look at. like technique for like all time.

technique Mighty Mouse is the guy yeah I. agree for sure. he could do everything the best. all-around fighter you do everything and. he was a ghost he was in front of you. and then he was to the side of you and. then he was kicking you and then he was. shoving you then he was [ __ ] dropping. punches down on you and then he had your. back it's like whoa yeah he was he was a. speed demon man with perfect technique. and a library of information and that. relationship that he had with Matt Hume. like Matt Hume is a very very.

intelligent guy and very interesting guy. when when he talks about martial arts he. knows a lot about martial arts yeah and. he was another one of those guys that. was like early on he was fighting an MMA. he fought um Pat militech in an MMA. fight that I watched one of those weird. uh organizations that was emerging that. we forgot the name of like okay World. Combat something or another you know. but like that relationship between like. a great coach and and a fighter like a.

like a DJ in a mad Hume or you know a. George St-Pierre and for us a hobby like. this kind of relationship that happens. with certain athletes that [ __ ] is so. important it really is I mean you got to. have a coach that's going to be able to. communicate with you and then you be. able to communicate back with your coach. so you go from army combatives and what. is the next gym that you join like when. do you start like taking MMA as a path. well after I get out of the army well I. was trying to do it in the Army but that. wasn't a priority so after I get out of.

the army. um. I relocate to Alaska I use my skills. that I acquired in the Army to get a job. with the FAA and I get hired on in. Alaska so I relocate up there me and my. wife and. uh so we relocate up there and as soon. as I get up there I'm I mean there's a. lot of time in between my exit from the. Army I exited what 2008 December and I'm. and I'm in Alaska July 2009. so in.

between that time you know I just I. found it I had to bug so I found the. Judo gym you know what I mean I'm broke. I'm broke as a joke right now you know. what I mean I I'm I'm on unemployment. because I just got out of the military. and my wife is pregnant you know we're. we found out two days before we had the. clear post that we're pregnant so uh it. was pretty harrowing time for us you. know what I mean. but uh I still wanted to train so I. found myself a judo gym and I trained. Judo for about a month and a half two. months and try to pick up as much as I.

could. um in between that that time I was. applying for the job with the FAA. eventually going through all that hiring. process of you know interviews and um a. bunch of other things. um. we relocate up to Alaska. and as soon as we get settled up there. me and my wife and my uh newly born uh. daughter. I'm looking for a gym you know what I. mean and I found that Gracie by Alaska. that's up there. and I get into it you know I started.

doing Jiu Jitsu I'm like 300 pounds you. know what I mean training and stuff in. between this time in between my Army. time in Alaska I put on a bunch of. weight put on a bunch of baby weight so. uh. um training Jiu Jitsu you know what I. mean 300 pounds up there uh. throwing myself into this martial art. you know I don't even know about MMA I. wasn't concerning myself about being a. UFC fighter or anything at that time but. uh one of these days I look up and see. these guys are striking you know what I. mean so that goes on for about a month. or two and I'm interested in it and I.

wanted to get in shape first so uh I. didn't just throw myself into everything. the gym had I just wanted to do focus on. Jiu Jitsu so I just did Jiu Jitsu for a. couple of months and then. opportunity came up and I just did uh a. couple of the MMA classes. and it was fun I was hooked one thing. led to another I figured out they I. found out they had a MMA promotion in. Alaska the AFC. um. so uh I trained for about a year from.

like the end of 2009 early 2010 to about. early spring it was about March. 2011. so where are you getting your. striking in you're getting your striking. at the at Gracie Baja Alaska so the guys. that were striking there you just joined. in yeah I just joined in was anybody. like uh well it was an MMA team oh so it. wasn't Emory yeah yeah so they had an. actual MMA team and there was an MMA. promotion there was a few other gyms in. the town as well so um.

uh I just threw myself in I couldn't do. it at first because of work and stuff. like that and just being home with it. with my daughter but um. uh. eventually I'll trick them I'll trickle. my way into it and got hooked and. it caused I mean it caused some friction. at first but uh me and my wife made the. adjustments we needed to which was. either be close to work me me personally. I either have to be close to where I. work at or close to the gym because. that's where I'll be spending most of my.

time at so um how crazy is it when you. think of that moment then when you first. started doing this when you had to. convince your wife. and now you're one of the top. middleweights on planet Earth. it is crazy crazy yeah crazy what a. journey that is and it's hard to think. about it as it being crazy because you. know I'm in the driver's seat so right. it just seems like the road that I've. been on you know what I mean right so. just so a lot of people a lot of people.

are astounded by it you know so to go. from I guess a regular guy to like you. said the top middleweight in the world. but I don't really find see any I don't. really see a seam in the transition to. me it just been like this is what I want. to do this is what I need to do with. this is something personal for me you. know what I mean so like people go to. church it's personal for them you know. what I mean this is personal for me this. is personal development not only just. doing martial art what you see on the. outside learning how to do a move and. you know be stronger than the next man.

but the internal aspects of it is what. really drew me to it of being a martial. artist you know so um. well then it makes sense when you watch. you fight because you're constantly. improving you don't you always are on. the path which I think is very admirable. and very difficult to to maintain for a. lot of Fighters to maintain their. enthusiasm for the path you know they'll. have some setbacks and then maybe they. lose a little bit of enthusiasm from the. setbacks and it's hard for them to like.

re-gear up but you always stay on the. path and like all of your fights like. the Marvin Victoria fight was super. impressive man that was a super. impressive performance and it's just. like you're getting better it's like we. we knew that you were Elite as a. middleweight but you even through the. fights that you've lost you come back. and you're better every time you're. better it's like you keep seeing that. the path and the hard work is paying off. with every fight yeah and you know. that's interesting because coach says.

coach said it a very interesting way. that once you get to that top level the. improvements are incremental at best you. know what I mean so it's hard to see. them yeah and that's one of the things. he's impressed by with me as well he. said because I'm I'm making. semi drastic and I don't want to say. drastic improvements but I'm making some. big improvements you're making some big. better noticeable the movement in the. vittori fight was noticeable that was. that was very impressive that your. movement was like it was uh there was. much more activity going on it was it. was really technical yeah setting them.

up really really well and it's only. going to get better I promise I believe. you for me it's already gotten better. because I've been I've moved on from. that right so but and when the big fight. like that and a big win is they're also. like this feeling like almost like. you've leveled up like you've gone. through like you you got affirmation you. knew it you thought you're gonna beat. him Victoria's one of the best in the. division for sure he's a beast that's a. that's another dude like how the [ __ ]. does that guy make 185 pounds yeah he's. a beast yeah he's a house yeah I always.

stand next to him like how the [ __ ] do. you do that he's so big it'd be like 40. pounds right Tejeda who just fought at. 205 this weekend to beat yambohovich. when you're standing next to him you're. like what you really weigh bro you're. 230 pounds. he's gigantic he looks like he's 225. pounds when he's standing there and I. think he is something like that right. they they tested them the day of the. fight to see how much weight he put back. on it was like 22 pounds or something.

something bananas like that yeah yeah. what did he weigh Jamie I think they'll. show they show the before and after yeah. that [ __ ] dude's good he's good yes. and now that he could defend on the. ground too sure look at that 228. bananas. homeboy gained 23 pounds and had full. endurance man he looked fantastic in. that fight that was a good fight when. you think about it though is that really. this is it I mean it's like what two. gallons of water.

plus some food a gallon of water is like. eight pounds. right yeah I guess how much is a gallon. of water weigh I never even thought of. that a gallon of water was like over. eight pounds I think. 8.34 okay so yeah you're right a little. bit over two yeah close to three three. gallons of water we're definitely. drinking that much we're definitely. getting that after cutting weight yeah. yeah so with him being that big that's. not really that. big drastic of a increase when you think. about.

the fact that we're he may not be as. dehydrated as he was at at uh. middleweight but I'm sure he's dropping. his way some to be especially to get. back up to 220 so I feel like I think. when you dehydrate yourself you really. can really put down some water yeah no I. I agree for sure and I think when you're. a real big guy like he is like the. benefits benefits of that weight cutter. without a doubt yeah I was like 215 when. I when I fought uh.

Victoria were you really yeah is that. the most that I've put on yeah yeah. that's the most did you do it on purpose. or was it just it just happened no it. just happened I didn't do anything. intentionally I'll just. the only thing I did attention was. prepared uh like a big jug of tea with. some electrolytes and stuff in it that I. carried around with me that's the first. time I've done that and you when you do. something like that do you sip it slowly. when you first start taking it in. because you're dehydrated for like how.

long I don't sips. no because I cut the night off that's. the most dehydrated Ram I cut the night. off late that night so I can just try to. go to sleep and then wake up and go to. the early weigh-ins and that's how I do. it and I wake up and if I need to cut. extra there's still time to cut because. I wake up early I can't sleep the night. of a way cut so that makes sense yeah. I've heard different people. do it different ways but I think people. are realizing now it's better to just. get up early to get up early and do it.

yeah I think it would be better you know. you want to sleep you just wake up yeah. you want to sleep hydrated definitely. want to sleep hydrated otherwise you're. missing a night of sleep for real no. you're absolutely right yeah yeah it's. like you're gonna always dehydrate. yourself but you're gonna miss a night. of sleep because you want to be. dehydrated earlier don't do that you. need that [ __ ] sleep it's just I. really wish that there was a way around. it because I just don't think it makes. any sense and I know it's a tradition. and I know it's the fight before the. fight like John Hannah always likes to. describe it as but I just think it's. it's unnecessary and dangerous and I.

think it's dangerously unnecessary like. there's no reason to have people almost. kill themselves a day before a fight. yeah. well I think it affects guys chins and. Josh Barnett was saying that uh Josh. Barnett and I were having a tax. conversation about this he said it. absolutely affects your chin when you. get dehydrated your brain doesn't. hydrate as much you're not just. dehydrating yourself you dehydrating. your brain your liver you can't take a. shot as well yeah yeah. so it's uh it's one of those things man.

it's like I just I feel like it's a. legacy thing in the sport that I wish. wasn't there anymore but I do like to. see a guy like you go from heavyweight. all the way down the middle and I do. like that because when you finally go. God damn he's big like it's worth it. it's worth it because you you know you. could really be a bully in there. sometimes you're you're a big. middleweight it has advantages it has. its advantages and durability too I. think you're absolutely right I'm able. to absorb a lot more even though that's. not my my goal is to not absorb any of. course so but uh it's the nature of the.

Beast you can't really uh block them all. I suppose yeah but um. same for guys like Victoria it's like. one of the things he's famous for yeah. look at his shots yeah because I'll put. some heavy leather on that guy and he. was just looking at me like yeah. like yeah no he's a warrior but that was. a really intriguing fight for me because. um I I know he's Elite and I know you're. Elite but you know you just beat Sean. Strickland and then you went right into.

that fight I was like this will show you. know this will show like where he's. flying colors man you just dominated him. there was uh I think you're it's your. most technical performance do you agree. with that. ah I think the Anderson Silva fight was. pretty technical that was very tactical. that was that was very technical that. was very. but that was mostly leg kicks in the. predominantly like kicks yeah you know.

I think I was more disciplined in that. fight to be honest because the goal was. he's going to be hard to hit in the head. right whereas. well I'm thinking of comparing this one. to the Strickland fight not to the uh. Victoria fight. but I was able to make that adjustment. okay his head's going to be hard to hit. right off the bat so I'm just going to. touch you down here and I stayed to that. and and. it only took one round to make cause. that injury yeah Anderson is.

as far as I know the only guy who. successfully come back after that Shin. break yeah no one else is really no one. else was able to do it well uh didn't uh. McGregor well Tyrone spawn. did McGregor fight uh. no he hasn't fought since oh okay yeah. but Tyrone spawn he's done it yeah he he. had a horrible one against gokonsaki. horrible same thing as uh Chris Weidman. Uriah Hall same check horrible snap and.

isn't anybody to come back though he's. good well Tyrone spawn became a boxer. he'll still do MMA I know he had at. least one MMA fight since then uh but. you know he was an elite kickboxer he. was an elite man he was so good yeah and. to see his shin snap like that he's like. God damn. I mean you would always think about it. before he went to throw a shot you would. always think about the two years it took. you to [ __ ] regrow your bone back. where you could throw kicks with it. again yeah I wouldn't say it slowed my. kicks down checks have done that enough.

you know what I mean checks hurt hurt. enough or deterrent enough but uh. and yeah definitely give you something. to think about you know it's it's. definitely it's the most one of the most. horrific injuries in the sport yeah that. that Shin injury and it's happened so. there's so many versions of it now on. Instagram yeah find somebody you see a. small shows where guys are doing it. accidentally breaking their legs I think. no Guerra uh getting his arms now. that was horrible I saw another girl get.

her arm snapped in a jiu jitsu. tournament yeah same thing oh God damn. it tap I remember when uh khabib had. Michael Johnson and I remember thinking. just please time please top please tap. just please tap don't make me see this. man don't make me see this tap he got. you fight another day please tap please. tap that [ __ ] spiral arm fracture. from that Kimura is so nasty yeah oh. and I hear those are from from doctors I.

hear those are really hard to uh to hear. and stuff yeah hard to repair you know. who knows if your arm's ever going to be. the same again yeah that's a rough one. to come back from. my friend Tom broke his arm playing. basketball like what was it like two. years ago Jamie two years ago it's still. [ __ ] he's still strong he's humorous. or the party break he broke the top. everything he broke the top bone like up. here oh that's a humorous yeah it was. big yeah big fracture yeah nerve damage. in his hand I can imagine that one being.

painful because this not only is the. break yeah painful but you got the. weight of the arm pulling on that thing. yeah and that could make it hard for it. to heal as well yeah dude injuries yeah. what's the worst injury you've had in. MMA in MMA I've talked well I hadn't I. didn't. in my MMA career I've torn my PEC. training you know what I mean I think. the worst one I had in competition I. mean I broken my hand in competition did. you tear your pack in drilling or. sparring it was just V we were.

initiating a warm-up so it was a warm-up. roll me and Ben was like a warm-up roll. and I was passing his guard and then. Henderson Ben Henderson yeah yeah and he. uh shout out to the lab yep oh yeah all. day long lab all day you all know that. everybody knows what what we do so uh. it's a great great gym it really is yeah. that's the whole reason why I quit my. six figure job and moved moved to. Phoenix Arizona yeah. but yeah uh he had a wizard on my left.

arm and I was passing to the right side. so I cleared the I cleared his leg and. uh. I went to pass his garden I went to I. was extended with my left arm because he. had the Wizard and I went to get strong. to collect him up at the side control. and as soon as I contracted their pick. and tore just like that little three. little rips. and it tore. um that was February I think that was. during the that was five week for. Jon Jones versus who did his last.

fighter like heavyweight Dominic Reyes. Dominic brass yeah so that happened in. Houston at the hotel. and then I came back and fought. yeah that was 2020 before covet and then. I came back and fought Robert Whittaker. and Abu Dhabi was it still [ __ ] up no. the peck was fine okay shout out to. Aaron's Physical Therapy uh now you got. me wrong on my Shadows now shout out. there Physical Therapy I've been hitting. them up since uh. the Anderson Silva fight you know what I.

mean I've been working out with them. working out there as well as working out. at the lab those two combine of you see. you guys see my cardio those two. combined has really uh propelled my. career but uh I came back after the. pecked here to fight Robert Whittaker. and look not not admitted into the fight. he throws his patented Reaper combo one. two head kick and breaks my uh left ulna. oh man so. I ended up fighting this guy for what.

another two rounds plus four minutes of. the first round with a broken owner and. uh. I almost got him too he's. see the other guy right that's one of. those crazy freak injuries that like it. can always happen when you're blocking. kicks but it was my fault I extended my. arm to block more reaction there as. opposed to being grounded and prepared. and bracing and you know ready to absorb. the kick oh [ __ ] okay right and uh the. reason being because I was slipping his.

his initiation typical [ __ ] we all see. it happen all day all day long with. Robert Whittaker we all know that. combination and. so are you surprised that the dreka's. duplicity fight. who wasn't right I wouldn't say I was. surprised as if he doesn't have the. capability to do what he did right but. it was still surprising to see it happen. right yeah because we all think so. highly of Robert yes and his ability to. go in there and fight at the time at the. highest level but it was shocking I'm. sure you know Drake is he [ __ ] he.

opened some eyes there with that one. yeah but to be honest when I look at. that fight when I was looking at that. fight in the lead-up to it that fight. went exactly how I thought it could have. gone really I either thought Robert was. going to be the tactician that he is and. pick him apart you know what I mean. maybe hurt him with some shots and get a. finish or take him to the to a decision. um or uh drakis who was a bus off my. words exactly dude's a bus all he keeps. going you know what I mean he doesn't. slow down he may look he may look from.

the outside look tired but he probably. doesn't feel tired to his opponent in. there I'm pretty sure he's putting some. pressure on yeah that's exactly what he. did and Robert began to wilt in the. first round from what I saw well he got. his nose fixed now he could breathe out. of his nose so for the longest time the. reason why he had his mouth open he had. no nose yeah nostrils are completely. closed off so he won't look exhausted. always looks like but he also was he. would fight awkward too I think it. affected though right yeah I would say. that's your stuff it is but he used to.

get a little too over eager and he would. like Blitz just run forward which you. can't do with the Whitaker yeah you. can't do with you can't do with pajera. you can't do with an elite guy but he. tightened all that up man and he. specifically tightened all enough for. the Whitaker fight that was a very. technical fight yeah dude there's. someone someone broke it down on. Instagram one of those breakdown sites I. forget who it was whether it was. Lawrence Kenshin or some one of the. other ones but they were um. talking about the his uh use of uh the.

right hand like stopping Whitaker in the. right hook stopping Whitaker as he was. coming forward and that Whitaker has. this like leap in style and that you. know he they had figured out the. distance for that and that's when he. started putting it on him it was very. technical man what he did was you know. it was it's a very interesting fight I'm. gonna have to find it he's because. Whitaker is so [ __ ] good man for him. to beat him down like that it's like wow. you got to take that guy for real he got. to take that guy serious yeah but that's.

what I saw what I saw. Drake is due to Whitaker I personally. feel was the effect that I had on on uh. vittori right because I was in his face. putting pressure on him right you know I. was hitting them too so. um I think. that could be a bit of a difference but. I think the pressure the fact that. Robert had to stay on you know what I. mean yeah that does something to to. God's guys aren't used to being on the.

whole time like right in the feed like. right getting chased yeah sprinting yeah. it's like sprinting. he can [ __ ] crack too so dragons can. Sprint in there yeah that's a good time. I'm gonna keep that one well it's going. to be interesting to see you know what. happens with him and Sonia yeah. I mean he's gonna fight in September. right yeah so. I don't know I hear rumors that they're. going to go with the uh Strickland fight. well that's that's I think that is. happening now yeah that is definitely.

happening I'm sorry because uh. Strickland but they're they're in. negotiations still though because I. think Strickland wants more money you. know I think there's I don't know I. don't know I hope they work it out. that'll be a good fight well I'm not I. don't want to be Mr Steal Your Girl here. you know what I mean I know that [ __ ] if. I was thinking that when you came on. here. but you know what I mean are you. preparing for something like that the. possibility to something like that well. when I get back after this my diet is. going to change I'm going to prepare for. somebody how many weeks is Australia.

September five six weeks right I think. it's it'll be just September half time. yeah for Jared cannonier to get popping. again so that's what I'm preparing for. I'm preparing for the stars to align. right and me to go in there and win my. title. um. who knows what's gonna happen if Sean is. being difficult you know what I'm saying. Mick you know who to call Dana you know. who to call you know what I mean y'all. know Lou y'all know first round you know. how we handle business y'all know I'm.

not difficult you know what I mean I. think you guys pay me good I'm not gonna. ask for too much extra to go to Sydney. I've never been there I think my. contract is uh something that we agreed. upon prior to these events occurring and. you know I think we can make something. happen you know so uh. that's what I'm gonna be getting ready. for you know what I mean well I. definitely want to see you fight for the. title for sure yeah it's going to be a. different thing you know everybody you. know we all saw the first one and nobody. was too entertained by that not. especially me so um I've made the.

adjustments not only to make it more. entertaining because I know that's what. people want to be entertained but do you. do you have to balance that out in your. head sometimes like be entertaining or I. don't concern myself for being. entertaining or anything like that it's. not it's it's. you are fortunately or your style is. very entertaining so you don't have to. worry about that well this is. coincidental right right yeah I like the. work I like the hip if anything I'm. entertaining myself because this is fun. for me right you know what I mean I'm. going in there having fun right you know.

what I mean uh and this is something I. tell people all the time you know I. don't. think of this as. a job it is a career and I do get paid. it is my livelihood but I don't approach. it as my job or anything like I have to. go to work now you know this is. something me fighting is only merely a. part of my training you know what I mean. it's like the test you take you know. what I mean every couple of weeks you. take a test in school or. you challenge yourself somehow and. that's the that's for me that's what. this is this is the challenge Marvel.

Victoria is the challenge Israel the. Sonia is the challenge and my and I'm. here to to conquer these challenges you. know what I mean that's a beautiful. approach so that's probably why you just. keeps getting better that's why you keep. getting this it's a fantastic mindset. for uh an elite fighter yep the my. mindset of constant growth because I'm. always trying to learn that's the only. thing that's the love of that's the. thing you love about it because I get to. going to study you know what I mean. right so something that I want to learn.

something that I want to dissect and. analyze and break down and not only do. it with my mind but do it with my body. as well that's. that's something you can't really do a. lot you know what I'm saying operate. yeah a field of. a field of thought with your mind and. your body well it's also very impressive. and very um inspirational to people that. you're doing it like I think you're 39. now you're 39 39. you're giving you're. getting better at an elite. athlete's level like you're getting.

better at one of the most difficult jobs. for a combat sport athletes that's one. of the hardest [ __ ] jobs on Earth in. terms of like physical demands like. what's and you're getting better at 39. it's amazing I've mitigated a lot of the. wear and tear through my years I didn't. grow up you know jumping big hills on. bicycles and [ __ ] like that and uh or. anything like that. um on top of that. um. I find my body to be valuable so I.

didn't like grow up destroying my body. or anything like that when I got into. when I first when I finally started. training I was like 25 years old in in. Alaska so I got into it relatively late. I didn't grow up doing martial arts or. anything like that so. um. I wouldn't say that I regret it but I. would like it to be the other way around. I would have loved to have done martial. arts as a child yeah but uh it is what. it is you know what I think though I. think one of the best I mean especially. a guy like you that's maintained your. your Peak athleticism into your late 30s.

you don't have the wear and tear that. someone who started doing it when they. were like 13 14 but you know by the time. you're 25 26 you got 10 plus years of. getting kicked and punched to take down. your knees twisted and your neck cranked. like everybody gets banged up within 10. years I mean I I had a friend who was 22. when he had his first nerve blockage. where his his [ __ ] arm wasn't working. correctly because his his nerves are. getting pinched in his neck yeah I mean.

so he his neck was starting to get. [ __ ] when he was a young young man. yeah so by the time you know you enter. into martial arts later in life but you. already mature man and one of the things. I think about like a big guy that cuts. down is like your body thinks you're 300. pounds still you know what I'm saying so. but you have all the tendons of a guy. who was 300 pounds for a while yeah but. meanwhile you know you're you're. competing at you know 210 215. yeah I. like him into Goku training in a.

hyperbaric chamber as Super Saiyan I. just want to be regular Super Saiyan all. the time sorry let me just get heavy. train Super Saiyan and then when I lose. weight it'll be like regularly yeah well. you seem to have got it down to a. science it sucks when people don't make. weight like this past weekend Michelle. Pereira yeah and um they cancel the. fight that's a bummer to me man that's. such a bummer yeah that dude's so big. though he is big he's gigantic yeah. that's a gigantic 170. he's [ __ ] huge.

so I could see it because uh Darren till. Miss wait with Wonder Boy in the past. and Wonder Boy always felt like that was. a factor yeah that he he came in heavy I. didn't want to sub for one of his fights. I think they were concerned either I. think it was Visa issues visa and weight. issues the Darren tell one yeah yeah. but man it's interesting watching these. guys come and go and you know and come. in with so much promise and it doesn't. doesn't quite.

had a bunch of knee injuries yeah well. you know the UFC is a is a promotion. machine so they sell the world a dream. for each and every one of us you know. what I mean so a lot of people out there. in the world have this have this idea of. me that you know could be completely. wrong you know what I mean so um we all. have these expectations everybody has. these hopes and dreams and stuff like. that and us as far as especially with. the mics in front of our faces are. allowed to share hours so everybody. definitely believes us when we say what.

believes me when I say I'm going to be a. champion one day you know what I mean I. seriously believe myself when I say that. so um. but very few of us are going to make it. to that to that level you know what I. mean a very few percentage of us are. going to make it so that's the reality. of it you know. um and that's the reality I had already. come to terms when I first started this. so when I first started doing uh MMA I. already had a full-time job a good.

comfortable job you know what I mean. um I was able to take care of my family. so I was good and I was able to go train. so I was happy. um I just told myself I'm just gonna go. as far as I can go you know what I mean. um. pretty much make myself no promises you. know what I mean because I understand. that I understand my ability and I had. confidence in myself which is why I did. it in the first place but I understand. the reality of it and I should be and I. was blessed to have already have a. full-time job to be able to take care of.

myself because there's a lot of Fighters. a lot of Fighters out there are broke. trying to fight yeah you know the. majority of majority of Fighters are in. broke situations trying to fight so. um. yeah when I first when I was training it. wasn't my goal to be a UFC fighter I. just wanted to go as far as I can learn. as much as I can while I have this time. here on Earth. so just as far as I've gotten well. you've gotten pretty [ __ ] far yeah. you've got a great approach man you got.

a great approach to life a great. approach to this this path that you're. on to to be a better martial artist and. a better person like that that's uh it's. it's it's a fascinating approach it's a. very Samurai like you know I think it is. I do take I take for me I like to take. energies from all places and try to. create this I don't want to say. character but create this Avatar and. equip this Avatar with all these. different perks and stuff that I find. admirable that I find moral and things.

that's going to make me a bigger. stronger better what am I a human right. a man right a black man if you want to. use those labels and terms you know what. I mean but uh for me being who I am and. uh that's a great way to think about it. yeah and not necessarily try to. distinguish myself from any and. everybody else you know what I mean look. to any and everybody else to see the. potential that I have because we're all. human we all have the potential to do. great and wonderful things or terrible.

and. bad things you know what I mean I tell. you I said this is one thing I tell my. children my children you know we have. the ability as humans this is what makes. us unique from any other species on this. planet that we have the ability to be an. animal. or we can be something better than that. we have the ability to be a demon or a. devil or we can be a Celestial or a God. or a goddess you know what I mean. not that we would physically embody our.

definitions of these things these are. just conceptualizations but. I think for me that allows me to take. the trajectory of my life and point it. to where I want I want to ascend you. know what I mean to concept to use the. word that has been so conceptualized to. godhood and I realize that I'm not. V Almighty but I am living a uh. an aspect I am.

generating a perspective I am. so many different ways to put it. living in experience you know what I. mean that God can look back and say yep. I've done this you know what I mean. maybe this has already been done maybe. it hasn't but for me I just want to go. up be better I want to be able to. levitate and [ __ ] like that you know. what I mean yeah do things that nobody. else does which is probably one of the. reasons why I joined the army and do.

martial arts in the first place because. everybody where I'm from where I grew up. definitely wasn't joining the Army and. nobody was doing martial arts that I. knew of so um. I guess I was just born a uh. non-conformist if you will. and I just like taking a route that I. find best suits me. you feel me yeah I do feel you yeah no. that's a fascinating path I like what. you just said I like it I like what you.

just said a lot yeah I think uh if. people could adopt that mindset and. adopt that way of thinking I think that. would be very very beneficial to a lot. of people yeah it's very admirable. sometimes when you hear someone's. philosophy the way they think about. things and the way they approach their. life you go oh that's admirable and. that's what I just felt when you're. saying that I was like that's that's. very admirable I I like when someone has. a a very clear disciplined sort of view. of what their life is and what they're.

trying to accomplish and you have. especially with this mindset that you. have about constant growth about looking. at like that like you're always on the. path yeah and and to approach that as a. martial artist and then you know be a. martial artist while you're still an. elite fighter in the UFC yeah but you're. still a martial artist and I think. that's why you're so good I think that's. why you keep getting better too I'm a. martial artist first it's awesome that's. awesome and I think that you know there. was a lot of people that felt like that.

was kind of lost along with all the. trash talk and part of the sport the pro. wrestling style sport which yeah you. know I think uh the the first person to. do it really good was chaos on and but. to me it was funny man I loved it so. it's like I'm conflicted I like it too. you know what I mean who didn't love it. who didn't love the Conor McGregor error. right how could she not love it man he. came on the mic saying some.

yeah and I can understand the business. aspect of the USB UFC. catering to that because I've. apparently that's more profitable you. know yeah but um. I necessarily don't cater to that you. know what I mean I keep it clean I keep. not that I keep it clean I keep it real. for lack of a better world are you you. are yeah no matter what this is how you.

feel about the match-up yeah I'm gonna. be and my my only goal is to be as. honest. with myself and in doing so I'll be. honest with any and everybody else you. know what I mean yeah so and that for me. that keeps me in check because I don't. want to have to tell you some crazy. [ __ ] up [ __ ] I didn't do you know. right right so I don't have the black. mama. it was at one point. where I was uh getting ready to leave a. previous job of Mines I'm not going to.

say which one specifically. but I was doing things that I shouldn't. have been doing and uh. let's just say uh I got put into. position to where. I can't even say to them don't say it. afterwards don't get sued Jared. because no damages nothing nobody was. hurt nothing happened or anything like. that but uh if you don't think you. should say it don't say it yeah.

but anyway it was wild and it was a. moment where I was going to call my wife. and be like baby I just want you to know. I love you but. something happened and it may make our. future a little rainy and if you may you. know what I mean just you know so well. I'm glad you didn't do whatever you were. thinking about doing yeah I was gonna. call her and then I just didn't call her. too and I just I'll tell you about it. after okay tell me afterwards tell me. afterwards so when you were competing.

um you start first start competing in. Alaska how did you wound up in Arizona. like what what was the path to get down. there like how many years in were you. well I was training from I began. competing in 2011 and I moved to Phoenix. in 2017. who end up on our team uh Joe Murphy and. Lauren Murphy Laura Murphy's in UFC Joe. Murphy we're all familiar with some of. us should be familiar with it with with. that pair uh they are my first some of. my first training Partners Joe's a. really good friend of mine I love that. guys my guy I love him and I love long.

too one of some of my first training. Partners. um. but they had moved Lauren they had moved. to Florida Joe's in the Air Force went. from Florida to Texas and eventually. landed in in Phoenix uh early 2010s. and uh. when they came back to visit in Alaska. they told me hey we're in the lab you. know what I mean they have a really good. program there I think you can go there. and you know really be good you know. what I mean. um. as opposed to staying up here in Alaska.

you know I'm saying if you want to take. your inmate career to the next level. the MMA lab can get you there and uh. at that time I just I was just now. getting signed with the UFC I was 7-0 uh. as a heavyweight in Alaska. um I fought my last fight January 2014. I had my first fight in UFC. January. 2015. so a year later I had my first. fight. um. so in the summertime fall time I was.

getting managers getting in with the UFC. and a contact with them they said come. on down you can stay with us for a. little bit you know saying do your Camp. here and. you know go from there and I went down. did the camp and got my toes wet as they. say and I really like the temperature of. the water you feel me so um it was a. two-month Camp I did my uh debut. um. you remember that you remember the card. it was Jones Cormier one in the first.

fought in Vegas so uh I fought Sean. Jordan on that card and uh those who. don't know Sean Jordan uh I was lucky in. my heavyweight career in the UFC I. didn't get to fight any of these six. foot four six foot five uh Giants. behemoths you know Sean Jones like 5 10. 5 11. he was a crazy athlete but he was. a crazy athlete remember he would do. backflips after all of his wins and. Knockouts Derek do you stop Derek Lewis. with a hook kick after he stopped me in. the first round he stopped Derrick Lewis. with a hook kick yeah dude was it that.

was his name I was watching I was like. let's see how this got good because I'll. be watching yeah guys do after we meet. and you know they're gonna win or lose. he was a freak athlete he was he holds a. uh I think it's a bench press or a squad. or dead left record. at LSU and he played for LSU I think it. was a fullback for them when they when. the Tigers won uh when they won a. championship way back when when you see. a dude who's built like the Hulk and he. does a backflip you're like what the. [ __ ] man yeah he's building that guy. he's in a tank he's built like yeah like.

a tank like yeah yeah for real would you. see that guy do a backflip like that's a. [ __ ] athlete cause that's a lot of. weight to throw around yeah. so yeah he knocked me out uh in the. first round TKO he didn't knock me out. it was a TKO but uh. did you already know at that time you. were going to go down at least a light. heavyweight. not at that time you thought you're. gonna fight as a heavyweight I thought I. was gonna win this fight and make. millions of dollars and quit my job and. right I guess you're just fight and. train now you know so uh that wasn't the.

reality of it I lost the fight I went. back to Alaska. um that was 20 early 2015 so I spent. another two years up there you know what. I mean during my career I thought I. fought again a heavy weight and I'm. sorry I'm getting on this mic I fought. again a heavy weight and won that one. that's the fight I won in Croatia that. was my last fight of heavyweight and. interestingly enough on that fight that. fight in Croatia there was like four or. five other heavyweights on that on that. card and all those heavyweights are the. guys who were looking and say oh that.

dude that's the man you know what I mean. it was uh Francis and ganu everybody. knows him. and Curtis Blaze was on that card it was. Derrick Lewis. and Gabriel Gonzaga. Ben Rothwell he fought. who'd have been one for a fight. did he fight Junior dos Santos thank you. for joining dos Santos but those are. just three behemoths four six behemoths. of men. yeah yeah which was on that card.

Timothy Johnson. uh Martinez Tabora yeah. interesting so all these big dudes was. on this card I'm you know standing next. to him walking next to him and I you. know I went by knockout in the first. round so I'm a big dog too you know what. I mean. um but you started thinking I started. thinking. not that I was afraid of any of these. foods but for the sake of my career if I. want to be able to compete and give.

myself as best a chance as possible to. make this career work right when I see. guys like Jon Jones and Francis. it was uh it was Cain Velazquez at the. time you know what I mean right who who. I was getting prepared for that's a guy. when I did my training coming up I was. looking at him I gotta get ready for. that guy so I had car deal that's. another aspect of my training right. there cardio cane that's what they call. them so that's why my conditioning is. where it is now because that's one thing.

I focused on early on in my career so. huge yeah it's so huge having a Giant. gas tank oh yeah that's the last place I. always talk about Prime Time BJ Penn. when BJ Penn was at his best he was. training with Mark marinovich and Mark. Brandon just I don't want to paraphrase. I don't want to [ __ ] this up but I'm. pretty sure their philosophy was it's. more important for strength and. conditioning for an elite fighter than. even fight training uh yeah sure it's. water in this filtered water than that. too. um he so their philosophy was they would. get BJ to have the most insane gas tank.

he already knows how to fight they're. like just do your drills or whatever you. want to do but the most important part. of your day is Plyometrics we're going. to give you the most insane ability so. you do eight weeks of this by the time. that fight comes you'll be a totally. different kind of human yeah with a. crazy gas tank and a crazy ability to to. change distances or change positions. move back and forth all the plyometric. [ __ ] they did in box jump and [ __ ] that. was like all the work they did. everything was like high intensity.

tabatas and all these different. endurance work and all these different. things they would do for explosivity and. and strength and conditioning that's. just purely for like your ability to. just generate fat fast twitch muscle. fibers and throw them into action for. fighting and he was a beast during that. time man yeah I dare say he was training. with one of my uh. one of my training Partners Rob Emerson. yes because Rob Emerson brought a whole. bunch of good stuff he he uh did working. with uh BJ and his team yeah he's.

brought it over he has he always has us. doing explosive stuff you know what I. mean it's always plyometric uh uh. oriented type stuff with them it's. closer fascinating stuff it's. fascinating stuff because there's so. many different philosophies and then. George St-Pierre when he was at his best. he didn't do any strength conditioning. he said he just wanted to work on. efficiency and fight training so he was. just constantly training fight specific. stuff he didn't do any of the gymnastics. stuff either he picked that up to a. certain point in his career he he was. incorporating gymnastics at one point in.

time but I think towards the end maybe. he did a little bit of that still but I. think towards the end when we had this. conversation on the podcast he was. saying that he doesn't do any of the. [ __ ] that he did when he first started. out he was doing like box jumps and all. this crazy [ __ ] and clean Traditions. traditional [ __ ] that you see in the. countdown show that gets excited gets. you hyped up but he stopped doing that. and he was just concentrating on. efficiency so it was just all technique. well that makes perfect sense especially. when you become a person like GSP you. know what I mean yeah but I'm saying.

there's two totally different schools of. thought there right there's there's the. BJ Penn School thought under Marv. marinovich where it's all strengthy. conditioning you already know how to. fight just get yourself to this insane. gas tank and then there's the George St. Pierre was all fight specific stuff your. fight drilling wrestling fight drilling. takedowns fight drilling Jiu Jitsu fight. drilling stand up you just everything's. fight fight fight technique well I guess. that approach can be attributed to the. person right the ESP is more of the. martial artist you know what I mean the. more the traditional martial he's a.

correct you're right he's yeah he's a. real martial artist too but he's he's a. jiu jitsu guy though yeah jitsu martial. artists are different from Karate. traditional karate martial artists. that's true I mean sure so I would say. um. that could be attributed to their. training style like I would say BJ Penn. you know he's from from Hawaii I think. you got some dogs out there you know. what I mean yeah so I would say he's got. more of a dog in them then BJ will carry. around with then uh GSP would carry. around not saying GSP got a dog in them.

ain't got it in them I know it's just. like BJ would fight you in the street. yes exactly you know what I'm saying yes. exactly I think that that can be. attributed to yeah the character of the. person doing the work and the coaches. and the corner men around you and stuff. like that so I mean it's also you the. gas tank wouldn't do any good if BJ. didn't have spectacular technique. already right that's the thing is. spectacular technique yeah like uh his. strike that was he was only one of the. first Jiu Jitsu guys who's striking was.

like [ __ ] world class I mean if he. got you to the ground the guy won the. mundials three years into Jujitsu huh. that's nuts the what now the moon the. owls the World Championships BJ won the. World Championships three years in his. Jujitsu three years consecutive yeah he. got his black belt in three years. entered the moon dials and won. three years in okay obsessed. three years ago oh okay so he's a white. belt and then three years later.

okay that's how talented Japan was BJ. Penn was a Phenom he was a Phenom okay I. just got the ground belt after being a. purple belt for like seven years. I was a brown belt for eight years eight. years eight years yeah. I wasn't consistent enough. yeah God I wish they could just fix. injuries all of them so you'd never have. to worry about them again like 100 just. [ __ ] them. till I died I'd be like Elio Gracie on.

those mats oh man that dude was rolling. when he was in his 90s that's my plan. man yeah yeah people keep I mean. everybody talks about 30 years old 30 39. years old first of all I said I'm level. 39. I'm a level 39 Jared Kennedy I'm a. level 39 kilogram I'm a level 39 badass. so uh first and foremost I'm a level 39. so 39 years of experience in life. exactly and when I see myself as 60 65 I.

see myself big chiseled jacked Gray. beard gray afro with a battle ax in one. hand you know what I mean ready to [ __ ]. up anybody who's trying to step foot you. know what I mean it's going to cross. that threshold yeah so that's how I. envision myself you know so I I don't. see 39 the same way as most people see. 39 you know what I mean I do know what. you mean so I want to be 120 something. years old you know what I mean yeah. finally getting on the dance floor.

because I don't dance now it's it's. something new when I'm older it's. interesting Elite athletes that are able. to compete like at a higher age they. almost all have one thing in common. extreme discipline extremely like. Bernard Hopkins one of the most. disciplined guys ever in boxing never. got out of shape never ate bad always. ate clean always ate organic never drank. never smoked never [ __ ] around never. [ __ ] around and competed deep deep. into his 40s we're at a world-class.

level world class I think he beat his. last World Champion when he was I think. he was 50 50. crazy crazy the competed. 51 and then he lost right yeah Joe Smith. Jr knocked him out knocked him out of. the it was hard out of the ring yeah. because he fell on his head right on his. head yeah that was horrible that's so. bad for you yeah that's worse even Than. The Knockout because a lot of the he. means he was getting clipped but the. ropes were loose and he just went right. through the ropes it's a shitty job by.

whoever put together that [ __ ] ring. for a world championship fight with a. guy like Bernard Hopkins and to go. through the ropes like that that's and. did not have any protection for the. athletes below the Roses concrete that's. crazy yeah that's crazy at the very. least they should have wrestling mats. all around the base in case of the worst. case scenario someone falls out of the. ring yeah it's meant to be it's funny. you mentioned I would like them to have. wrestling mats inside the ring you think.

it's something better than the canvas. yeah I don't like the camera the canvas. gets slippery especially when they put. the logos on it you're right like I. slipped like uh. last fight I didn't slip I have a pretty. good foot in my last fight but I had. changed made some adjustments but when I. fought Strickland and when I fought out. of time it was a few times you know when. I was slipping I was getting ready to go. and it's the logos because they get wet. it was a logo I slipped on but even the. even the canvas in itself right you. don't have to wet it and then step on. your feet yeah why do you think they. continue to use canvas because canvas. also I would say because in the logos I.

would say it's so they can have logos. can't you do logos on MMA mats I don't. think they will come off a whole lot. easier why don't they do the friction. imagine if they had. instead of like the but they could have. no seams you want to have no seams. though right yeah you have you can't. have a scene. I mean there are seams on the main on. the in the uh on the canvas yeah there's. like the same everywhere two two and a. half three feet there's a scene but you. can't have like the Tommy mats where.

they're like stuck together you can't. have the possibility of a toe getting in. a crack no you know that's why I was. thinking like a a wrestling mat right. maybe not as thick as a as those thick. ones right but not the surface of a. wrestling mat because they're wearing. shoes you want the surface of like. tatami mats where you have the texture. to it so you can dig in because I. remember uh we switched to a smooth mat. at one time in um my gym in my old. studio and I couldn't use it because as. soon as I got sweaty every time I went. to throw it I'm just slipping all over.

the place I'm like this sucks and that's. another reason why they use the uh. canvas because it's absorbent right it. does absorb but but if your feet are dry. it's real slippery yeah and if they do. get the logos the logos like I don't. know how they apply them but if they're. just like uh. what's that [ __ ] when you do with the. iron what's that called yeah Jamie do. you know what I'm talking about the heat. sort of yeah what is it called though. they used to iron on yeah so like if you. get like a cheap t-shirt from someone. that's real thick like this is a nice. t-shirt it's like it's there's not so.

much material that's thick if you have. that on a canvas or it's real thick yeah. that's just not gonna water's not gonna. go through there it's gonna puddle up on. that right and you go this is going to. be yeah right on top of it and if you. lose a fight or get an injury just. specifically because of that that's a. shame yeah that's a shame it feels like. to me there's a better way I mean who. how many people are buying something. because they see someone get the [ __ ]. beaten up out on top of it yeah you know. I've seen those right they got those. cards that have pieces of the mats in.

them right to generate commemorate the. event that that makes sense actually if. you're a big fan and also it does make. sense that people find out about. products I just wish there was a way to. do it where it didn't [ __ ] with the. performance. speaking of shirts you got a Jared. canonier merch yes nice I was gonna give. it to you for one of my fights but I. don't think that's a perfect example. like did you see how shiny that is. there's no way water's getting through. that right right if that was on a canvas. that would that would suck it would.

definitely but how do they do it on the. canvas I would imagine they've thought. about so I'm sure this was like they put. like a press on it with this one right. if the canvas they just do die yeah. can't they just do it with dye yeah let. me give my shout out here real quick go. ahead sorry shout out to Nelson for. hicking me up he gave me hooked me up. with the artwork for this shirt right. and I put it on a shirt so I really like. this one and uh what's the website where. people can buy these uh. thank you very much.

do you have a personal website there's a. link in my buyout to a uh Square there. you go kill a gorilla merchandise okay. beautiful okay it's in your Instagram. there you go bam nice this one is not on. sale yet right but I haven't done so huh. when's it gonna be on sale probably soon. after this podcast releases all right. good Let It Go but uh yes uh I have my. homie uh you're wearing it you can just. shoot yeah. yeah so I'm giving you this one oh thank.

you very much thank you and this one's. actually a little bit different it's not. as thick the uh no it's not the thing on. top isn't it differently well the other. one's like a graphic image yeah but. that's this one is exactly what I'm. talking about like this kind of stuff if. this is uh if Sweat hits this and you. have to move your feet around on it you. gotta slide all over absolutely yeah did. you ever compete in the crazy days where. where people were allowed to wear. wrestling shoes were they was that all. phased out by the time you were in no my. first fight is in 2011. so that was I.

was way out of that I remember when. dudes wore wrestling shoes all the time. yeah I mean there's some venues I'm sure. right some local promotion that I wonder. that ain't gonna like adhere to strictly. adhere to. UFC's standard of martial arts right. that seems so dangerous though wrestling. she's like a head kick with wrestling. shoes like if the foot goes in the eye. it's kind of a weapons yeah oh yeah so. which is especially heel Hooks and [ __ ]. yeah for the person who's wearing them. or wrestling it's it's a huge huge. Factor yeah huge factor that grip and.

traction yeah that's gigantic both in. defense and offense yeah imagine imagine. somebody wearing wrestling shoes against. DC right right it could be they're. getting taken down yeah right off the. top there's also the thing about. generating power in punches like you get. more traction yeah yeah you're really. digging in with your feet now I've. injured my toes naturally from kicks or. whatever and uh I've had to uh wear. wrestling shoes for training now what. one thing wearing wrestling shoes for me. has done is helped.

sort of uh. uh increase make better amp enhance my. footwork right it makes me uh be more. cognizant of how I'm placing my feet as. opposed to dragging my feet across the. mat or the surface or whatever whatever. surface I'm moving on oh because there's. Traction in the bottom of it yeah so you. can't slide as easily exactly. interesting so it's um. so I have to use precise footwork. precise food placement and I actually. use that as a teaching technique when I.

try I teach a class at the lab Saturdays. at 10 p.m at the MMA lab. um and that's one of the things I in an. analogy that I use was imagine anybody. who's seen the Kung Fu Panda move or any. old kung fu movie where they have those. training setups whereas a bunch of logs. standing on in and they just have like. that small two three inch surface round. surface to stand on to move around on. and do all these Kung Fu uh. Kung Fu training and manures and [ __ ] on. Kung Fu Panda is the one that comes to.

mind big time for me. but that would facilitate precise. precise foot placement precise footwork. you have to put place your foot in a. precise position and of course maneuver. your body in accordance but uh it all. starts with the feet yeah so um. that's one thing I a huge that's a huge. thing that I ingrained in myself is for. work and uh. where are you like taking the footwork. from specifically like where you. learning from self-talk self.

educated just what what you like like. things that work for you when you're. things that I find are effective things. that I find that I that I can find that. are accessible for me you know what I. mean. um things that I know work I watch for. me I'm like Rogue you know what I mean. Rogue from the X-Men I see something. and I can imitate it you know what I. mean or like uh Kakashi yeah I'm an. anime. I'll see something I can do that [ __ ]. you know how much it bums out some dudes. that like Killers or anime nerds yeah.

well you know those guys are missing out. right they're missing out if you enjoy. it I wouldn't say I'm an anime nerd. because there's a lot of anime that I. don't watch and I can't watch but uh. speaking of footwork did you watch the. uh Terence Crawford Earl Spence Jr right. yeah yes I did yes I did and I just saw. so many different levels in in both. Fighters but mostly in Terence Crawford. I saw him change his Tempo change his uh. his approach to the fight you know what.

I mean make those adjustments and the. ability to land hard shots in so tight. and tight crazy really tight position. it's so accurate just inches away from. him when he's Landing these right hooks. oh my God what a performance yeah what a. performance beautiful amazing. there you see it there is one of the. knockdowns. yeah boxing is one of the sports that I. continue to watch out that I really uh. continue to watch after getting into MMA.

and a lot of people for whatever reason. are sort of trying to come up with. reasons why Earl Spence didn't perform. as well as they thought he was going to. but I think you just have to say Terence. Crawford is that good yeah I think he's. just that good and I think we we found. it doesn't mean that Errol Spence isn't. amazing he is but I think Terence. Crawford I think you're looking at an. all-time great yeah I really do he's in. my opinion the best switch hitter in. boxing since Marvin Hagler and he might.

be better he's so good man he's so good. yeah he's so good. and he's going to fight I think boots. Ennis is his mandatory oh really yeah. which is an amazing fight that's an. amazing fight. see yes close up some boots because this. dude's movement is next level yeah and. he's another one that is a brilliant. switch hitter. yes Jaron boots Ennis they have to fight.

him soon if he plans on keeping the. title go to a video of uh boots Ennis. because that dude yeah highlights that. dude is phenomenal he's fantastic when. you watch him fight man he's so precise. it's so slick. he's really really good and he's also. undefeated I mean come on son. this dude. and this is you know early on in his.

career. I mean from the moment people first. started seeing this guy fight they're. like this guy is super talented. something special you know and so that's. a big test man this this guy's good like. World Championship good. dude I mean is he ready for Terence. Crawford I don't know we're gonna find. out and it's gonna be interesting go.

like a little further up ahead in his. highlights. I mean he's look at that movement man. look at that oh play that again play. that again come on son look at this look. at this look at this. I mean that head movement is a thing of. beauty and to do that while you're. wearing shorts like that yeah you know. you know dude feeling himself he wearing. shows like that fight like that too look. at that right hand he just landed. oh my goodness oh my goodness.

so talented. so that's interesting that's very. interesting yeah so yeah I like watching. guys like this you know because I pick. up so much just from watching. fights like these yes and I'll and I'll. watch a fight and I'll go back and watch. around like three four times I'll watch. a certain part of it around like damn. you see that technique and then I go. back and watch the whole round and then. I'll maybe watch around in front of that.

to see if there was something like a. tail at the fighter may have seen. so do you watch all kinds of things you. do you watch uh uh like kickboxing do. you watch anything combinations anything. combat related you know what I mean it. can even be you know. uh I wouldn't tell you the gimmicky. stuff but uh. the less conventional MMA stuff you feel. me so all that kind of stuff like uh. capoeira oh okay you know what I mean I. study capoeira and I have a few what I.

call my fifty thousand dollar moves that. are capable cap away that's funny yeah. so Fight Night bonus exactly if I break. if I if I break them out in the fight if. I land you know what I mean these these. moves are pretty much finishing moves. yeah you know what I mean if I land. Atlantis in the fight I'm pretty much. gonna guarantee a bonus so um. Capital head is a risky uh uh uh uh. martial art though but it can work oh. absolutely I've seen I've seen it work. how about like that sanchai like.

cartwheel kick but that [ __ ] works yeah. he pulls that off all the time on people. yeah he kicks people in the face with. that yeah and that's it it's unorthodox. stuff sometimes you don't see coming it. can work and that's a lot a lot of force. behind those kicks and I would also. imagine that learning capoeira would be. just like when George St-Pierre got. really into gymnastics it would it would. help your athleticism yeah I've made. that same correlation so yeah it really. does yeah it makes sense yeah but just. like yoga does just like anything that's. requiring you're to flip your body.

around like that and throw kicks into. the air yeah that's got to be good for. everything you know or just be able to. hold your weight up yeah on the ground. and stuff like that yeah so so are you. in kind of like a holding pattern right. now just to see what happens with uh. Australia whether or not they they. signed Strickland and have they. contacted you and said hey Jared. nobody said anything to me so uh maybe. after this podcast I would hope so. um good timing I would hope so right.

like I told him I know I'm here I'm. waiting I'm ready well I personally hope. that they. um they this Strickland thing gets. worked out because uh I think that's an. interesting fight and I would like to. see you fight whoever wins that fight. yeah and I think that you're you know. you're right in line man and it's uh. it's a real fun time for the division. there's so much talent in that division. yeah with Trek is too busy just beating. Robert Whitaker like that and Whitaker. was always the guy that was like right. below out of Sonya and like creeping up. on them yeah like in the last fight he.

got closer like it was a unanimous. decision lost but he had his moments in. that fight it was a much much much. better performance in his first fight. where he got taken out quick yeah so. everybody was thinking that that's the. guy now you watch dreka's dupless he. beat him down you're like wow yeah it's. gonna open some eyes bring some. definitely bring a lot of attention a. lot more attention back to the uh. middleweight division after what he did. that uh was a couple weeks ago there's. just so much talent now so much talent. in the sport there's these guys that are.

just jumping in that are UFC debuts and. you're watching a fight like that guy. looks like a world last Contender yeah. see when I see stuff like that right. I'm like yes they look good especially. in the first round right don't we all. look good in the first round right so. yeah. and on top of that I think when you. having your fighting debut fights is. completely different from fighting top. five of course top 10 Fighters you know. what I mean yeah so. um. those like even with uh there's so many.

different examples Johnny Walker is a. big example he came in WoW blazing guns. of Blazing he was successful until he. got to that top level and he realized. hey let me settle down a little bit. these men are older up here these are. grown men up here you can't just come. wild no it can't work it might work yeah. I mean it works on a lot of people yeah. but you can't doesn't always work but at. the top level you can't take those risks. you don't want to you don't want to be. taking those type of risks you want to.

take risks yeah but those type of risks. are sort of you don't have to take that. type of risk you know what I mean the. thing is in that flashy style where he's. taking those risks. occasionally he has like the most insane. Knockouts because the guy generates. crazy power yeah. that Khalil Rountree knock out that. elbow from in tight and another uh like. vote for elbows there yeah because that. was insane that was nice his power is. crazy the win when he um.

uh. what was which was his last fight. um [ __ ]. uh. who did he just fight God damn it it's. at the tip of my tongue. [ __ ] I hate when this happens. um. anyway he won by knockout. he's he he's so big too he looks like he. should be a heavyweight yeah he's. another guy like he's just tall 205.

he's enormous and that's one of the. reasons why I like her man let me go. down the middle way too because. everybody I was fighting was like six. four six two six three. like damn I thought Paul Craig that's. who it was that's what yeah that's what. it was yeah why couldn't I remember that. yeah he was uh Paul Craig was grabbing a. single he was beating him up kale and. him. yeah when he started Hammer fisting yeah. crazy he could generate that kind of. power yeah. yeah that but yeah right.

out of the gate but what happens when he. fights the more Elite guys but I think. he probably does capoeira right I would. assume he moves around yeah I'm straight. he's basically done it for sure you know. so I mean he's able to generate that was. his whole body he was able to generate. that generate power for that yeah for. that position so but when you get to a. level like Jamal Hill that's not yeah. you can't you know you don't want to be. doing that you're doing wild [ __ ] with. that guy you if you want to take risks. right I mean by all means do your thing.

you know what I mean but it's not a high. percentage Yeah Yeah the percentage yes. the margin of error goes down yeah. drastically yeah yeah. so that's one thing I've realized. especially after fighting um. find Robert fighting uh uh Kelvin and. Israel. right that. the marginal error is just is much finer. up here so. not only do I have to be better.

but I even have to get get better at. getting better you know what I mean I. have to think about. things through a mice I gotta just look. at these techniques through a microscope. you know I'm saying there's so much that. goes on when you extend for a punch or. when you step to move or step the. fingers so much so much of an effect. that it has not only on my position but. the way my opponent is going to respond. and maybe you may may reposition himself.

do you write down things that you've. learned I don't really write down things. just keep in your head I just keep them. in my head fill it with my being my. vessel. um sometimes rarely though will I write. a few write some things down like if I'm. in Camp and I need to keep this stuff on. my mind if it's something I'm like I. need to just keep this on my mind as. long as I can keep it keep a keep it. conscious I'll do it so without having. my coach to tell me this is what we got. to do this is what we got to do so.

but uh. it's hard there's just not enough time. to train everything not enough time to. get good everywhere and right not enough. time to recover from all the workouts. not to mention that right yeah. what do you uh do you do anything uh. unique for you for your recovery. I am. I do have a ice I have a a plunge. Coldplay yep I use a cold plunge I ice.

bath I mean uh Epsom salt. I stretch. um stretching is huge especially post. workout I think that is uh. one of the bigger things one of the more. prominent things that I do to help with. my recovery. um I give massages you know uh other. than that nothing else really when do. you do the cold. especially during fight camps. um do you do after workouts I would do.

it after workouts but I also know the. benefits of doing it like first thing. when you wake up yeah you know what I. mean and uh. I just hadn't gotten that far in my. journey with this uh cold plunge yet so. but I definitely want to I definitely. love using it using it prior to this. fight and uh help me out because when I. got to the to the pi and use the plunge. there it was very nice having the hot. tub right next to the plunge yeah so I. can go out of one and into the other and.

use that uh one extreme to the next for. some mental training you know what I. mean and I felt I felt great you know. they got a [ __ ] ass cold Plunge at the. pi you said a [ __ ] ass Coldplay what. was this thing.

the thing is once you start doing it at. 34 you'll get used to it you know you. will get used to it you get used to it. yeah exactly that's how I felt I hear. about people coal plunging at 52 degrees. I'm gonna shut the [ __ ] up don't even. yeah. lukewarm water plunger. so what do you do yours at 34 34 yeah. yeah yeah. for how long it sucks three minutes just. one sesh yeah well sometimes two. sometimes what I'll do is I'll do it. before the workout and then after the. workout I'll do a sauna session and then.

after the song I'll go back in for a few. minutes you go before your workout yeah. I do it in the morning first thing okay. and then I work out and I use the. because I'm in the cold for so long for. three minutes and I'm freezing when I. get out I do a lot of my working out. outside I'll do like a body weight stuff. like push-ups and you know okay some. players squats and stuff like that. pulling the sled I'll do that outside. nice and then then I get inside do the. rest of the [ __ ] okay but I think. there's something to uh cooling your. body down and then making your body.

reheat back up that's supposed to be. like real beneficial with testosterone. levels yeah and there was like this I. think it's a Japanese study about that a. lot of people have used that it just. feels good too it just wakes you up. first thing in the morning I get in that. [ __ ] and I don't want to be in. there I'm like God damn it but I think. um everybody should do something like. that just a little something like that. just a little something for yourself I. think my my closest experience to that. was in the Army having to wake up and.

it's cold as [ __ ] outside and you're. freezing balls sitting in formation and. then you start running like oh finally I. mean at first you little you know creaky. crackly a little bit and then you loosen. up and you get that runner's high or or. some [ __ ] like that or you get a good. dress hard and call Kane is a pump you. up motivation some [ __ ] like that yeah. yeah I forget all about the cold then. yeah people just have to be active like. if you if you really uh think it sucks. to be outside in cold weather guess what. once you start hiking you start sweating. you know yeah that's the thing if you go.

hunting one of the things about is like. layering correctly like you want to. actually be a little cold while you're. hiking yeah because if you're not you're. gonna heat up you want to be a little. cold yeah but you want to have a minimal. amount of layers on because if you have. a lot of layers on you have to stop take. them off now you're wet you know unless. you're wearing Merino wool or some. top-notch synthetics it sucks bad if. you're if you're sweaty and it's cold. out that sucks yeah. that's a lot of people get really [ __ ].

up oh man don't be cold I remember when. I moved to Alaska the first time I had. this dude is learn to return training. from my job right because we would fly. out to remote places and work on our. traffic control equipment so just in. case some [ __ ] happened be like the. reenactment of the gray. with that movie Gray With The Wolves and. oh was it Liam yeah. it'd be something like that the teacher. how to survive you know what I mean and. uh I was not prepared for this class bro.

it was uh it was winter time so it was. snow all over the damn place in. Anchorage Alaska and the tickets to some. BLM land and some BLM land uh. and I had on steel toe boots right he. used to be wearing steel toe boots out. in the cold right so that's that's a big. No-No right there cold gets colder. because the steel gets cold yeah the. steel gets cold and you'll lose you'll. lose toes like that oh [ __ ]. um. I didn't wear layers I had on steel toe. boots some jeans uh.

a uh button-up polo shirt oh no and a. cardhartt jacket no way that's it and I. think I had a beanie I can't remember I. think I had a beanie on my head oh my. God but that was it right and we're. supposed to go out there in the middle. of the Wilderness to simulate a [ __ ]. uh a plane crash and luckily. um I lost the shoe luckily I lost a shoe. we had to make they taught us how to. make a makeshift shoe out of uh airplane. seat cushion and the airplane seat. cushion was way more comfortable than.

the other steel toe boot that I didn't. lose and uh it was warmer you know what. I mean. airplane crash simulated. yeah sorry and it was able to stay on. top of the uh snow a lot better than my. boot was. so. I would definitely needless to say I was. not prepared to live in Alaska and it. was slow going at first because uh I. didn't have money to buy all the gear. you need to live in the cold weather. cold weather environment so I'm up there.

and uh I'm going outside clearing snow. off of my vehicle in freaking flip-flops. gym shorts and a t-shirt well a jacket. of course because I had it can have. jackets oh no. yeah I wasn't prepared to live up there. first which uh part of Alaska were you. in Anchorage Anchorage did you see a lot. of moose and bears and [ __ ] you did see. moose I think I saw a bear like. three or four times while I was up there. in the in town. no no grizzly bears black black bears. black bears no we don't see grizzly bear.

in town thank God for that thank God so. yeah I have a friend who uh lives in BC. like way up in BC and he had to shoot a. bear from like three feet away what yeah. there was a brown bear that was trying. to get into a cabin. he was in the cabin yeah he had to shoot. through the window or what no I think I. think the thing was coming through the. door and he had to open the door and. shoot it in the head oh what'd he shoe. to it a rifle I believe I forget the. story totally he told me a while ago.

he's had multiple encounters with bears. up there there's like in the uh High. areas of um you know like when you get. up into BC into real heavily wooded. areas they have like real Grizzly. problems there's a lot of grizzly bears. up there and they recently made it. illegal to hunt them. you can hunt black bear still but you. can't hunt grizzly bears anymore because. the the you know the people who live in. the city voted it out so the people that. live in Vancouver are like oh don't kill. the grizzly bear because they reveal the. Bears and the people that are up there.

are like hey you gotta kill them or. there's gonna be too many of them like. what are we doing you got to manage. their population they come into town and. sometimes they [ __ ] open up people's. cabins and that's that's scary stuff man. yeah scary stuff there was a video. recently somebody put me uh onto of uh. this grizzly bear that uh tears open. this cabin and pulls out uh like a leg. of a moose and it's dragging it out but. it like went through the wall of this. cabin just they're so strong they just.

tore the wall apart just tore a hole. through the wall yeah and it smelled the. meat through there and it's like I gotta. get through this [ __ ] wall yeah. then. yeah to say the least it's a scary. animal to live around I just came from. Alaska and we were up there we went. camping stayed in the camper for a. little bit and um. there was where were we. there wasn't no this isn't a bear scare. it was a tsunami scare that's what it. was oh Jesus but they cleared they gave.

us all clear but um what happens you get. like a horn blows off or something well. we were in a camper right there on the. on the beach and then on your phones you. get an alert just like an amber alert or. something like that oh on your phones. you get an alert saying tsunami warning. for this area you know what I mean get. to High Ground [ __ ] like that. so we were uh. uh so we packed up our stuff and we had. to leave. um you can look on the internet and see. where the effects workplaces are. actually affecting and it wasn't us we.

were just really close to it but they. hit the whole area. tsunami scared the [ __ ] out of me when I. lived in California I was always worried. that a big one was going to hit and then. a tsunami is going to wash over the. whole city yeah I was always worried. about that yeah. but I started telling a story because we. went up to Alaska was a couple of weeks. ago but like a few days before we went. to Alaska I heard about this black bear. take this uh pull this man out of his uh. out of his truck and kill him yeah out. of his tent and killed him I think it. was him I was in Arizona.

so I'm in Arizona and I hear about this. we're about to go to Alaska in the camp. right it came like right here came right. in the camp yeah put them into a brush. and mauled them killed them and yeah and. uh. so I'm worried because the last time I. went to Alaska we was in a camper there. was a bear come through town I could see. the bear running in the distance and. [ __ ] a little black bear but still so. I'm like ah you know how black people. are we don't play around in the. wilderness and [ __ ] man we don't do. bears and bobcats did you have a gun or.

anything on you the last time we had a. gun but not this last time we went we. didn't have a gun but that the uh the. time we saw the bear we had a gun and. some bear mace and stuff like that so. this time we had some bear spray but not. no gun I only saw a grizzly bear one. time in the wild and uh while you're. hunting or yeah they look at you so. different yeah a black bear looks you. like who are you are you gonna hurt me. what are you doing here what are you are. you maybe they never seen a person. before like what is this a grizzly bear. looks like this can I eat you can I eat.

you like these cold dark eyes man the. the eyes just are feeling this like yeah. you realize that the Primal energy of. this killing machine is locked on you a. real live grizzly bear in the wild it. wasn't a big one either the one that I. saw was only like six feet tall yeah. small but they know young bear but you. know right away looking at me they'll. know when they're being that yeah yeah. it's just a different sort of wiring I. guess polar bears yeah I would hear. stories because I worked up there and we. would go to local uh remote areas to.

work on airfields and [ __ ]. and further north you get you can come. into encounters and I heard I hear I've. heard stories one of the guys who I. worked with was up in Barrow which is. way up North Alaska and uh he was. working on his thing and uh. um. out in the distance way out in the. distance with the binoculars because I. always watching there's a polar bear out. there you know what I mean and uh so.

they have to keep an eye on this thing. and they just noticed this bear is. getting closer and closer so this bear. is freaking honing in on them but you. know these Bears yeah you'll see he lift. his nose and then he put his nose and. started putting those down start coming. closer and closer and they notice his. bears hunt them so they had the abort. Mission and leave because these bears. were back down the door and get whatever. they want you know what I mean they hunt. they hunt anything yeah they hunt. everything if you everybody yeah so. yeah we don't we don't play we don't. mess around with polar bears and stuff.

when you're on the job at least I don't. know what people do on the outside of. the job but I don't mess around with. polar bears period a friend of mine is a. veterinarian and he was explaining how. when they work with like little baby. polar bears he goes they're like the. Predator right out of the womb they're. like the alien you know from the movie. wow like right out of the womb he's like. you're looking at these little cute. Killers damn yeah it's like because. polar bears don't eat anything but meat. yeah there's no vegetables no vegetation. there's no [ __ ] blueberries we're. lucky that these that's like the thing. about salmon and the brown bears the.

brown bears the coastal food sources. yeah plenty of food like that's why you. see all those videos of people like. sitting there taking pictures of these. things catching salmon out of the river. they say the Indian ones are more. dangerous yes they say yeah yeah because. they hunt most the time or they you know. eat berries yeah that's what I've seen. his big bears run down the [ __ ] moose. they're so fast they're so powerful. powerful did you see that video that. some guy captured recently these two. bears duking and out for a long time.

yeah a long yes. the dude was like this is gonna get good. or some [ __ ] like that then they just. like standing up and I was like whoa. they go they go hard man got them by the. ear have one by the leg at one point I. was like they was in the right I was. watching it like oh what kind of. wrestling moves these bears from the. dude it was like they do have a little. Jiu Jitsu but got something there yeah. they do yeah they do use a little. wrestling and they bite each other so. [ __ ] hard he got that over here you. got that wizard right there their coat.

is so impressive. they pull giant chunks of hair out of. each other did you ever see the movie. Grizzly Man no I'm not Grizzly oh my God. you have to see it that's the. documentary right yeah it's about this. crazy is that the dude who died yeah I. think I might have seen that who died at. the end it's a Werner Herzog movie and I. swear to God he's trying to make it a. comedy I think it's a comedy I really do. I would call it an unintentional comedy. but he's too brilliant to prefer it to. be unintentional I think he did it on. purpose it's a comedy movie Grizzly Man. it's a tragedy for sure yeah it's sad.

that this guy got eaten by a grizzly. bear and his girlfriend too but it's. also it is a Bananas movie yeah because. this guy just he thought he was. protecting these Grizzlies he's like I'm. here to save them and save all the. Grizzlies and he's like you're not. saving jack [ __ ] like what are you. talking about you're merely. accommodating them for the time being. you're just around them because they. don't know what you are if they knew who. you are they would just eat you and. that's what one of them eventually did. he's like I think I can eat this guy and. he just [ __ ] ate him damn yeah well. he stuck around too long too and most of.

the Bears were already in hibernation. when he was in there so the Bears that. weren't hibernating yet didn't have. enough food so they were desperate so. like maybe a desperate old male and so. then he just said I'll just eat this. dude I've been seeing this annoying. [ __ ] saying he's saving me. he's like no I'm saving you for later. but there's a scene in it where they. talked to the sheriff and the sheriff's. like I thought he was [ __ ] and. they're like. smash Cuts after that I'm like that is. comedy like he's doing this on purpose. he knows what he's doing he knows what.

he's doing yeah but it's a crazy movie. with this guy who's just. he seems like an in the closeted gay man. and because there's part of the movie. where he's like I wish I was gay because. if I was gay I'd just meet a guy but I'm. not gay it's like okay yeah what what. are you doing man like what's going on. up there well I'd actually find many gay. people. they're loving out there maybe maybe. that guy. pretty sure but I mean I think it's it's. not I think it's a thing where people.

attach themselves like that they're. there to help and and and save this. magnificent creature which is a. magnificent creature and then there it. gives their life so much more meaning. because they're attached to something. bigger than them so important so huge. yeah because their whole identity is. wrapped around protecting these bears. but the people that are the wildlife. Wildlife biologists up in Alaska they. know what they're doing like those pairs. aren't in danger yeah like they're not.

in danger at all they have to monitor. their populations very carefully yeah. they go out there with rifles yeah they. have to go use them if they yeah they. have to sometimes and especially if a. bear starts eating people yeah like. there was able to put their bear down or. a bicyclist in Montana she got pulled. out of her tent. yeah and apparently she had had an. encounter with that same bear earlier. and scared it off and the bear came back. I think that's the case see if you can. find that store but that's in uh in. Montana and that was like real close to.

town so it freaked everybody out to this. lady got. she got killed I don't think it takes. much for it's a rare exception when a. grizzly bear doesn't kill you yeah and. you see some of those dudes they stitch. them back together again they're like. yikes respect respect dude right there. that's that reverent yeah yeah that's a. true story man it was yeah that's based. on a true story yeah. based on a true story that was a wild.

scene yeah yeah I forget who the. Reverend is based on what we what were. you just looking up. the lady the lady getting the bear the. hiker oh yeah the story about the Hydra. the bicyclist did she run into I think. she did I'm not I mean there could be a. different articles either way either way. the bear pull her out of her tent yeah. sure that's the scariest way to die so I. don't do animals man yeah I respect them. you know what I mean oh I've seen this. one oh this this bear showed up at a.

cabin and starts rubbing his body on it. that's got to be like a miniature cabin. right no he's just huge man some of. those bears are 12 feet tall. that thing is huge. Revenant yeah what is it the dude's name. who it's based on apparently the uh the. real story The the author of the The. Book on it was um on Steve rinella's. podcast mediator podcast was a really. good story glass Hugh glass is the.

author it's an amazing episode where he. talks about you know there's a. difference between the Hollywood version. and the real version but it is based on. true story. that was a good movie Man bro imagine. living back then you gotta worry about. bows and arrows flying at you and you're. trying to make your way through the. woods and what the [ __ ] are we doing. here. hard people man. what was that that wasn't the Reverend. that was uh was it the predator.

the newest present the newest one yeah. with the Comanches yeah prey and they. had the French that was good yeah that. was good that was a really good one it. was fun it was fun it was a fun Predator. movie like I was a little skeptical I. was like yeah you got a girl on the. stream inside yeah you got a girl who's. gonna kill it come on shut the [ __ ] up. but it was good it was still cinematic. for the story you know you know some. suspension of disbelief yeah yeah but. still they still did it good it was good. I enjoyed the [ __ ] out it was a lot.

better than Aliens versus Predator yeah. that wasn't so good no do you what do. you do to unwind you like a video game. guy what do you do to relax well I play. video games there you go I knew it with. the anime I was like it's a shot in the. dark but you know um since having. children man it's yeah few and far in. between but I still get my gaming time. in right now right now I'm playing Final. Fantasy 16. um I don't play much online. my daughter is she's big into uh uh.

was it Roblox mine too so the battle is. no too much of that [ __ ] get off of that. [ __ ] get off of the things you know how. it is with kids you know what I mean. yeah we played Wanted Dead or Alive you. know that karate game Wanted Dead or. Alive you don't know that karate game oh. man it's the [ __ ] yeah yeah it's a. karate game I [ __ ] everybody up and like. nobody in my house wants to play me uh. it's a newer game no it's one of those. ready fight oh okay you know those games. I remember that I had karate Champs.

growing up that was on Nintendo it was. just like that you had a red one and. dude and white yeah that's the game. Wanted Dead or Alive. okay I remember Dead or Alive yeah I. [ __ ] it up yeah. that game was fun. you'll knock somebody off of a platform. and they'll fall and then you'll jump. down continue fighting I keep trying to. coach my kids how to do it when I keep. [ __ ] them up. you can't help yourself I can't help. myself very competitive when it comes to. that game they don't like play anything.

they get mad. when's the last time you played it a. couple days ago yeah who's your. character I pick whoever the [ __ ] I. don't give a [ __ ] okay yeah I don't give. a [ __ ] this each one of them has like. some specific moves you can do or. combination you can do to knock person. back and just keep Landing it. see my favorite fighting game was Bloody. roar I don't know if a lot of people. don't know bloody Royals but bloody Roar. yeah I think I've heard that name what. is that what does that look like it was. a well it was a 3D fighting game but uh.

you could you would transform you had. fighters who could transform into uh. Beast like apparitions yeah like similar. kind of things yeah oh I remembered this. yeah yeah so I would get I was good with. a lot of them have you [ __ ] around at. all with uh VR have you done any of. those VR games I've played Thrill of the. fight it's a thriller to fight is that a. boxing one yeah it's a boxing one those. are great yes you can kind of move. around with that above that was that was. fairly realistic as far as the sensors. and responsiveness goes and I was using.

that to cut away from my last fight and. for the other side fight I was using it. to you know because I I started pouring. sweat on those damn things yeah and then. the eyes are [ __ ] up I was surprised. that like we did it on the concrete I. was like my feet hurt because I'm like. pushing off my feet and moving my body. which one we're playing Jamie on the HTC. Vive it could have been this I don't. remember at that time I don't remember. but I do remember I love the fact that. when he pops you the screen goes white. okay like you get hit yeah like like it. feels like you get your you know like.

you see stars yeah like that's cool yeah. it's like it gives you like a real. feeling of what it looks like when. punches are coming at you you get a real. good workout yeah it was really good I. was you can do like that's always tell. people like if you could find something. you enjoy doing working out is so much. easier like people say well I'm gonna. get in shape I'm gonna go to the gym God. damn it that's boring that's so boring. just learn Jiu Jitsu learn kickboxing do. something and if a video game like there. was a while where they were uh talking. about and I think some people still they.

are doing it but doing uh VR games on a. unidirectional treadmill or a. multi-directional trip no yeah so they. they have this treadmill that can go all. different ways and it's propelled by. your movement so as you're moving you're. you're harnessed into this circle yeah. you're but the the treadmill can go in. 360 different ways yeah it's [ __ ]. cool I want one of those that's [ __ ]. cool so you're running around and. shooting thanks it's like you're getting. exercise while you're also you know.

playing a fun game yeah like if you. could do something like Dance Dance. Revolution a lot of people lost weight. doing that because that's fun that. thing's revolutionary right there yeah. yeah I didn't get into it because I'm. not a big dancer and uh but you know I. like my games. oh yeah yeah well you can just wrap this. up let's wrap this up we're about about. the end of the line anyway thank you. very much man I hear you let's wrap it. up p uh telling everybody your uh. Instagrams they can follow you yep I'm.

on Instagram kill a gorilla MMA so uh. give me a like follow you guys will see. all this cool stuff that I'm doing I'm. gonna get more active I'm not Super. Active but I will be more active I'm. definitely active uh during five weeks. um but I'm slowly spreading my wings. well I'm just happy when you're active. in the Octagon yeah and uh I'm glad we. got to do this I really enjoyed your. perspective on things I think it was. great thank you man I enjoyed it very. much my pleasure let's do it again all. right bye everybody. thank you.

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