JRE MMA Show #142 with Matt Serra, Din Thomas & John Rallo

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. day we're up we're up boys what's. happening what a what a beautiful moment. to get you guys together in a room this. is awesome this bad ass this is [ __ ]. awesome I've known all you guys for. [ __ ] ever I think I've known you the. longest I've known you for at least 20. years 2001 I believe wow.

2001 I remember you were sleeping in. your dojo you were he he had a bucket. like a a thing you. pissing cuz he drank so much water so he. had his jug next to his bed he's like. I'm tired I don't want to get up I don't. want to get up and go to the bathroom I. got to piss I just piss right there go. back to sleep I I lived in my first. storefront Academy in East Meadow my. hometown and Joe and Eddie Bravo were in. town for some reason I think you were. doing a gig or something yeah I was. doing a gig and you came in picked us up.

yeah at we took the train and he picked. us up at the train station took us to. his Academy it was awesome the hickville. train station and uh it was literally. not to make everybody feel old it was 21. years ago I was I was 28 you know why I. remember because I was going to fight BJ. Penn at Mohan Sun so I'm like are you. going you're like I got this gig and and. you came you trained at my place and I. showed you the basement I'll never. forget what you said to me down there. and I think I said the last time I was. here I go yo man this is where I this is.

where I sleep this is where I stay you. looked at it you go dude you live like a. [ __ ] Spartan. yeah I remember it like it was yesterday. well you were living that life I mean. and I think that's what you have to do. to be elite at MMA when you're starting. out especially back then you had to be. all in all in all in and you're you know. you're a coach of high level people you. could speak to this yeah but I mean I've. also lived that life too you back in. 2001 I mean I BJ in 2001 so I mean I.

know what it's like to live in the car I. still do it sometimes now so like you. sleep in your car. sometimes just for time I'll be on the. road so much man that like sometimes I. don't even know where I'm going wow I'll. be on the road so much I'm like God damn. De Thomas got a lot of jobs de yeah no. no one you know what it was is I. remember talking to you and you said man. I work a lot because I know what it's. like to be poor yeah so like that's why. I work yeah I stay ahead ever want to.

think about money I don't think about. money but the way to not think about. money is to make enough so you don't. have to think about it exactly and I I. met you the same around the same time. cuz I you and Eddie as well through. jiujitsu yes you guys were on the. Underground back in the day and we were. trying to find a place to watch the. fights in Baltimore yeah I had a gig. like so Eddie went to your place to was. it pride yeah we went was it pride or. was it the UFC it was UFC he actually. fought cuz I remember you saying cuz we. both thought he beat b J even though you.

didn't get the decision and uh you were. doing at you were at the uh you were at. The Improv I believe in Baltimore at the. time oh wow and then we hit like ESPN. Zone for dinner and I got to be I was. friends with you guys ever since yeah ra. and I have had some fun on the road man. we've been a lot of gigs together yeah. absolutely yeah yeah those it's just. like those friendships that you make in. the early days they're they're they're. kind of special cuz like we were there. you know the when the UFC in 2001 was a.

different thing man completely different. animal it was so Fringe yeah and you. always felt like I just personally I. always felt like it was going to be over. any second I would remember being like. all right look I'll take this next fight. at this price cuz this is GNA be [ __ ]. D this is gonna be coming to an end soon. and I'll tell my kids that once one time. I fought in a cage it's be this sport. where we fought in a cage it looked like. the end was coming at any moment it. really did before that the fight with. Forest Griff and Stephan boner you know.

what's really crazy Eddie Bravo and I. used to have this conversation we would. be like cuz I met Eddie in like. 1998 um I met him at uh I think I either. met him at John jocks but I saw him at. John jocks he was there with Ricky. rocket like Ricky rocket from Poison is. a legit black belt under John jock. Machado yeah no kidding Ricky rocket is. a he's real he. trained undercover you know I mean just. just a regular dude goes into classes.

leg like real guy so anyway Eddie was. there with him as spectator and like. this is like 1998 and we would say you. know what this sport needs some crazy. billionaires to just invest all this. money in it because we know how exciting. it is but the world didn't know this is. you know this is 98 this like Dan. Henderson's first fight Carlos newon. back in those days remember Carlos newon. a lot of people forgot how good that. [ __ ] dude to him like cuz he's he's.

on the commission the committee that the. uh ABC commission has for Fighters and. I'm on that commission with Carlos. Newton nice what happened what have. happened I mean like real estate or. construction or something yeah he's. alive I like when I see guys make it. through okay because I mean now I talked. about this with Dean a lot when we're on. the road with Dana doing the sh I go I. got survivor's guilt I'm like look I go. [ __ ] there's a lot of guys now that. the sports like 30 years old like.

there's a lot there's like casualties in. the game now whether it's their health. whether they get done with the sport and. I mean Phil Bron's in a Mexican prison. right now warch I mean these listen. right right right there's some people. making very bad choices but I don't know. man it's upsetting to me when I see. people all [ __ ] up and we're sitting. there hanging out having a good time. it's hard you know it's hard when people. forget too about the early days were not. that popular so they forget about some. spectacular performances.

they forget about some when Carlos. Newton Tapped Out Pat Milotic with the. Bulldog remember the first time I never. seen anybody do that no that was yeah. that was something else I fought on that. call and I got remember back by sh. there's a photo of him and he is Ja and. Pat's face is like see if he can find. the photo of Carlos Newton to look at. this photo look oh my God yeah man oh my. God and there's like another one too of. it like more from the back but either.

way like what a perfect picture I mean. that is so nasty he was a he was a. fluent fighter he was very like the. first his arm look at his [ __ ] arm. Jesus Christ he was one of the very best. Grapplers in the early days of the UFC. he pulled off some wild [ __ ] yeah. phenomenal Jiu-Jitsu remember he got. Matt Us in that triangle Matt slammed. him KO him they both went to sleep and. then Matt just woke up first woke up. first he's like I won I won.

was surprised amazing it's funny looking. at all these pictures and everything you. know pre. usada oh yeah I know let's talk let's. talk Sarah let's talk course I listen. and by the way this is me at 49 on tot. okay so I'm not competing now on. anything I never competed did anything. ever so I remember like I like some guys. back then but [ __ ] man like Randy.

control the natural. really the natural can we get a. different nickname but I like Randy I. like The Expendables and [ __ ] but uh you. know I mean of all the. nicknames is that a little more of that. yeah you want some coffee oh I'm an. espresso freak espresso no I have coffee. I have coffee we'll get you some. espresso it is a it is we get a get four. espressos you guys are awesome uh like. you look at it's different when you look. at the Pride guys cuz they were almost.

encouraging that [ __ ] they were. encouraging it up one of Edd's guys went. over there they literally told him to. gain weight yeah get stero they wanted. that whole freak Show and watching the. biggest guys kill each other I wonder. like I know I fought BJ I know I believe. him when he says he was natural but I. wonder how many dudes I fought that were. actually on something I think DJ was. 100% natural I believe him I believe. 100% And also there's no change in his. physique ever it was it with BJ was all. about whether or not BJ was fully. dedicated the fully dedicated BJ was a.

terrifying Force I to me I I still. believe he's the greatest lightweight of. all time I think you can make a real. good argument that the prime BJ when he. beat Diego Sanchez I would put that up. against anybody anybody ever yeah Diego. all those guys I'm not saying khib. couldn't beat him cuz khabib was a. [ __ ] I mean I don't think we. really can appreciate how much of a. [ __ ] he is until after he's long. gone you go by like that Edson Barbosa. fight right he put put that thousand.

yard stare in Edson Barbosa early in. that fight where he was like oh my God. like this [ __ ] like I don't know. if he he might be able to do that to. everybody I don't know it seemed that. way but BJ was on a different level he. was Prime BJ Prime BJ was on a different. level and he had legs there's a thousand. yards there he had BJ had legs that were. like arms hister yeah yeah I heard he. could put his legs behind his head. without using his hands and he stretches. them it's not like it's just totally. he was telling me all these czy things.

Hees withs you know he stretches himself. with BS he does like hardcore yeah hardc. Str wild that even the most flexible. [ __ ] if you get them in the. crucifix it doesn't matter if they can. suck their own dick they're still. getting [ __ ] up like you a guy when. you got a guy DJ. youever you ever. DJ the guy's jumping out of pools and. [ __ ] but like Matt Hughes gets some in. the crucifix yeah it doesn't matter you.

can put your legs behind your head you. he should have used his legs to [ __ ]. block the. [ __ ] do some Wing Chun with your legs. he was the crucifix [ __ ] you up I get. ghee or no ghe I go for that all the. time uh training and yeah I know I can't. yeah and and I I know I can't hit them. but there's a lot of ways you could. transfer uh transition into camores. armlocks different things uh but it's. such a good thing to get used to cuz. they can't do dick uh DC might not I.

don't know how great is Jiu-Jitsu is but. I mean look he gets guys in the crucifix. they're [ __ ] done yeah the crucifix. is that there there was one guy at John. jock who specialized in the crucifix I. was always terrified of this dude cuz. it's such a terrible place to be yeah it. you can't use your arms and you're like. ah such a horrible you get punched in. the face and you're like trying to block. with that one little hand with MMA it's. so much worse yeah it's it's the the. elbows from that position oh my God. punches when I was fighting Matt when I. was getting ready to fight Matt Hughes I.

was having people start me from there uh. and that's why the the only fight I ever. in my career I had to pull out of was. our first time I was supposed to meet. Matt Hughes and that literally broke my. heart because I was talking such [ __ ]. and I I would never talk [ __ ] but I only. talk [ __ ] knowing that I'm GNA meet this. guy in a cage you know what I mean. because they say you know mean so I was. calling the guy you know every other day. I'm calling a guy a dick and but I know. we're meeting then I had to pull out of. the fight and part of the reason why I. had to pull out of the fight is because.

I was getting older at the time and I. was still training like a younger guy so. I was starting in the crucifix uh with. my buddy Craig who was like a [ __ ]. big strong [ __ ] and then I'd get. out after five minutes I would do duck. under suplex duck then I cooled off you. remember mat Royo remember M Roy he was. visiting so he asked me to show a move I. cooled down and dude I [ __ ] blew my. back out just showing something I went. to show something I guess I was was so.

[ __ ] from doing should yeah cuz I was. training so physical not as smart so I. had to pull out of the fight but the. point was happen you back I L4 and L5 I. had a herniated discs oh Jesus so I. tried to stay in the I I tried to not. not pull out of the fight so [ __ ] I. went to a uh chiropractor and I will. never go to a [ __ ] chiropractor. again he took out this Tonka toy thing. and he goes you see your spine is you. got to and I go dude I I know what. you're doing he go I go but just could.

you do something for me he goes. everybody thinks they have a herniated. disc cuz I mean I'm sitting like I'm. thinking about it I'm sitting the way I. was sitting I was like M I was like not. straight I go dude something's not right. here he goes everybody thinks it's a. herniation but it's it's a lot of times. it's yada yada he put me on a thing he. he put me upside down on one of those uh. yes he and then he was with someone else. and then I'm with my wife and then he. goes okay like almost like I'm a [ __ ]. turkey hey flip him over you get turn. him back over when he turn I guess.

everything was coming back down on my. stuff when he turned me back over I was. [ __ ] I'm [ __ ] screaming like. something's sticking in. me uh and then they charged me 50 bucks. I got F of do you know you know when. they call themselves doctors do you know. how much time they spent in medical. school zero how many Zer zero time in. medic it's [ __ ] do you know how was. invented how than you pull up the. article chiropractors are [ __ ] Joe I. have chiropractors at home that know I.

know you and they're like hey man why is. he beating up on a chiropractor you know. it's the origin of it look whether or. not it I'm not disputing that people get. relief from being manipulated because I. think there's something to the deep. tissue aspect of it there's probably. something even to being out of alignment. in certain conditions you know and a lot. of that could be because of little. injuries and things are tight and that's. why deep tissue massage and raing is. very effective but the origins of the. Medical Art it came from a guy who is a.

magnetic healer who came up with this. idea he's going to cure all illnesses by. manipulating your spine and the. speculation is he was murdered by his. son who was a con man and his son that. [ __ ] takes it. everywhere and I don't know wait AE yeah. D pull up the article pull up that. article again because it's like when you. read it you're like what is this real so. you know I always thought it was a. doctor but it's not it's some dude that.

was like his did his son it's this thing. that like you may find relief from you. may find relief from being manipulated. and I think there's guys out there that. are really good at like they use other. stuff different techniques with it it's. they're basically doing physical therapy. but the knowledge and philosophy given. given me by doct okay here it is Palmer. held seances to contact a dead physician. named JY. Atkinson he said that those seances.

helped him develop Chiropractic as he. wrote in his 1914 book The Chiropractor. the knowledge and philosophy given me by. Dr Jim ainson an intelligent spiritual. being together with explanations of. pneumonia phenomena rather should said. phenomena principles resolve from causes. effects Powers laws and utility appealed. to my reason the method by which I. obtained an explanation of certain. physical phenomena from an INT Ence in. the spiritual world is known in biblical.

language as inspiration in a great. measure the chiropractor's adjuster was. written under such spiritual promptings. so this guy came up with this from a. seance a he learned from a ghost he. learned it from a ghost and then the. idea behind it though is that you could. fix all these different problems that. people have by adjusting them like all. kinds of wild [ __ ] and that they thought. they could do see said that they thought.

they could do with it cuz it's kind of. nutty when you read like the stuff that. he was saying he could. fix man I just think it feels good like. when you crack your knuckles it feels. good CRA anything feels I think also. getting pushed on and rubbed and and. adjust it it's good for you it feels. good it's like when I get deep tissue. massage these [ __ ] they dig in. there with their elbows and they're kind. of cracking [ __ ] moving there's a lot of. tension and you can alleviate that I'm. not saying that being adjusted or any of. these things these people do doesn't.

offer people help it I'm sure it does. don't get me wrong but at the end of the. day where did that come from and why you. calling it that yeah so if you if you. want to call it if you want to call it. like physical maintenance you know. that's you're you're literally attaching. something that actually works to. something that's really crazy the. origins of this are why don't M's call. themselves doctors it's a similar. similar thing it's a similar thing if. you have like a really good deep tissue. masser because it's like it's like a.

disrespectful thing to a medical. professional right and it makes you. question The credibility of everything. that they're doing exactly but they do. help people that's the thing it's like. but you got to admit what it actually is. and maybe you should probably take a. look at the origins of it yeah see if. you want to be attached to that [ __ ] man. I that they didn't do dick for me but I. went to. uh they didn't do a dick for me either. that's how I found out about all this oh. yeah yeah man I had a bulging disc in my. [ __ ] neck and I went to guy for a. year who was like telling me no it's.

just you know this and it's a muscle. injury and this he's like he pushed down. on my head and he was saying does it. hurt when I do that I go no he's like. then you don't have a bulging disc like. how ridiculous is that how do you know I. finally went to a a real doctor and he. gave me an MRI he's like yeah you got to. bulge your disc he didn't touch your. head and then he didn't even touch my. head and then they did regenicin on it. that's that [ __ ] that Dana went to. Germany to go get pton Manning went Kobe. Bryant went over there and it's your own. blood it's like a PRP thing but they add.

a bunch of stuff to it and that fixed it. in 2 weeks yo what about that [ __ ]. Final Destination Dana what the [ __ ] did. he do when he got that [ __ ] test when. he's like I'm going to die in 10 years. what is that he what is that what test. was that that he took when he goes oh. yeah who the [ __ ] is that guy guy. somebody said that he's going to [ __ ]. oh you yeah what do they say that he's. going to probably die in 10 years. something like that he said if he kept. going the way he was going he could. probably die in 10 years but I believe. that because Dana was just like he.

doesn't sleep he's always going I could. call Dana and have a 2hour conversation. with him at 2:00 in the morning yeah. he's an animal he he don't sleep he's an. animal he just he's just like always. doing stuff he's always involved he's. always got deals he's always working on. fights he's always he [ __ ] loves this. [ __ ] that guy's never if he ever it's in. my contract that if he leaves I leave. really well you don't got to worry about. nothing cuz he ain't going nowhere he. Ain going nowhere I'm like kind of want. to do this for anybody else yeah he.

obviously loves it cuz he does not have. to do it no he dude he loves it you I'm. telling you right now you call him at. any given time and say Yan bovich Alex. paja holy [ __ ]. yeah going oh my God what the [ __ ] is. that gonna be like bro what is that GNA. be like by the way what is that what is. that GNA be like wait say it again now. Yan bovich is fighting Alex be depends. where it goes well this is the thing I. think that it's gonna be a little. I think Jan's gonna I think Izzy's.

harder to get down than Alex and I think. Jan's gonna get him down I don't think. he's getting up I I don't think so. either Yan did I he get up every time he. got taken down well not in the later. rounds no you know Yan bovich can. grapple gra that's the thing I don't. think if it's on the feet I still think. you know poo gets him but on the ground. I don't see how he dude you but that. left hook on bovich is very high level. on the feet I mean he's very high level. like and he's got this wild thing that.

he'll do he'll go Shin to Shin with you. he he'll kick your [ __ ] shins like. he's the only guy that I ever see that. consistantly does that and dude look at. that he get you down man and we saw how. bad Alex looked on the ground yeah. against Izzy who looked just as almost. as bad right right yeah I mean he did. not look good that point but you know. you could say that he never anticipated. that from Izzy and he anticipated a. straight up kickboxing match cuz that's. most of Izzy's he never tries to take.

for sure he could have said he made a. mistake in that regard I mean but. there's just certain natural movements. that you do if you are competent on the. ground like your legs are you know your. body's round and you're using your legs. I mean he was pretty like a he was like. a board like it was very low level yeah. the worst you know what if a guy can get. that good at standup he's so [ __ ]. good he's so sneaky yeah he's the. sneakiest calf kicker in the history of. calf kicks yeah his [ __ ] is so high. level and you don't realize it it was.

even better in the second fight yeah. he's got this way of lifting that front. leg and then no hip switch at all he. just Bo it's crazy can I just say I'm. glad I'm out of the game before they. [ __ ] put in these damn. C I don't want that [ __ ] I'm glad I. [ __ ] I didn't take I never took one. kick in my C I tell you what my last. fight in UFC I fought Josh near and he. inadvertently kicked me in the calf I. thought my my leg was broke wow I was. pulling guard at that point it's wor.

yeah so no one I didn't know what a calf. kick but like I thought you know he was. just trying to kick my leg he just. happened to hit the calf and like I was. done I Josh is another bad [ __ ]. that people forgot they called the. dentist yeah that dude was awesome man. there's a lot of guys that people got to. throw their name in the old UFC fight. pass because like guys like Chris Lidle. they should I want them to be I want to. be known man Eve Edwards. Ed when he knocked out Thomson I was. saying that Eve Edwards is the best 155.

pounder alive but there wasn't there. wasn't a UFC championship for that back. then I was there when he knocked out. mvid doll too cuz I had a guy on it was. boow dog actually in New Jersey he head. kicked mvll knock no no no no no no you. got it backwards wasn't Edwards you got. backwards moal head kicked him did he. yes yeah yeah KO him was huge victory. for mozal about to make a real enemy. with that one [ __ ] you switch that one. up switched that one up entirely. remember a time I back fisted.

shy was there for that one too Carter. was. awesome yeah this is it right here he. was no he was a. boom got me right beautiful and I've. been thinking it's the other way for. man even back then. look even back then that dude's. hilarious Diaz on Anderson I fought uh. Eve Edwards great right after 9/11. it was uh September 28th you see 33 you.

that's when me and you be started out on. EA the [ __ ] is I don't know how many arm. bars did that guy oh he had a lot yeah. he was just grabbing guys's arms and. just throwing his legs around tell you. put it on him though [ __ ] miss the. top put them hands on him boy put them. hands on that cat I remember he had. those he had those corn rolls at the. time they weren't even corn he he had. cut them in he just cut it it was his. haircut he had lines cut. man you beat the [ __ ] out of him Dean.

Thomas that was your we were both coming. off our we both had our initial fights. in the UFC we both had hype and we both. [ __ ] that up you lost the. BJ you lost I remember that I lost the. shy Carter so now it's and now it's UFC. 33 uh in Vegas right it's at the end of. September literally it's right after 911. I'm without Ray Longo his wife didn't. let him get on a plane it was a weird. time it was it was a ghost town and uh.

every it was [ __ ] crazy I thought Eve. Edwards who was a better Striker than. shy and it was [ __ ] it was a crazy. night I was just having a conversation. with the people about the Gracie. documentary and we were talking about. right after September 11th when Tito. fought matenko yeah that's the same that. was the same card the that was a wild. that I was in the audience really yeah. the that was before I worked for the UFC. again oh wait you were there yeah I was. at that. yeah me and Eddie Bravo this is this we.

fought on this Dean they this was when. they had their first big event in the. UFC in Vegas Vegas was the first one and. I wanted to be there for it I was like. God we got to go we got to go denn hman. I became friends with Dana through that. and that's how I started doing. commentary yeah really yeah I became. friends with him I didn't because I. because I thought I was the first. fighter ton night that night D against. Fabiano eha wow you know what's funny. man and I I don't think you G I don't. know if you're going remember this but. it's it's fitting since I gave you a new.

t-shirt when I how we first started. getting the. talk it was after I be Kelly Delante it. was a on a prelim right and it was uh. yeah I ended up St getting a triangle on. him and it was on a prelim but they. showed it right before the main event so. it got a lot of views and then they. interviewed you and you weren't doing. the commentary yet but you did say you. know it was something along the lines of. you know people think the ground is. boring you need more stuff like you know. you gave me a nice shout out that jungle.

Jiu-Jitsu that Matt Sarah did and I was. so I was like so oh man this is [ __ ]. fantastic so there's a girl this girl. Paula I that used to I was friends with. she's like yo you should like send them. a shirt for that or something I go how. how do I find him you know I'm half. [ __ ] special I [ __ ] I. fearfactor.com where do. I sorry so so Paula thank you Paula she. said that t-shirt to Joe and you ended.

up calling the academy and yeah I swear. you called The Academy to thank me or. some [ __ ] and uh I got on the phone with. you and I was all excited that's the old. days text back. then called say thanks for the shirt bro. nobody texted back then in 2001 it. didn't exist text it was was no texting. we called each other yeah you called. people yeah I remember that with the. last generation what it's like to call. people and most of the time it was on a. real phone a real phone.

connected what's bad yeah what's bad now. is like I don't I never checked my email. and now I never check my voice messages. at all I I'm a [ __ ] hermit you know. that I had to check my text messages. yeah so I let my I never checked my. voicemail and uh that's it man I live in. my own little world that's I know that's. why I was telling you I didn't think he. was G to come out here because like no. one interrupts Matt's piece you just. can't interrupt his piece I I just go to. my school and I go home and now since. the Pand mic had some blessings because.

I used to have to go to the city to hang. out with and I do UFC un filed with. Jimmy Jim's coming out Jimmy's doing. your show your mother yeah yeah he's. doing I love Jimmy jimy Jimmy like. little Jimmy bird me and Jimmy became. very close I love he's great guy he's a. beautiful human being love Jim Norton. yeah uh I've been doing that show for a. while with him why if now you got ad D. why' I bring that. up because you don't go to New York for. okay okay the pandemic sorry guys. nothing changes so I used have to go to. the city cuz I do UFC un fielded with. Jimmy and I always felt like I was.

winning cuz it's it's a decent paying. gig it's a fun time with Jimmy I go in. after rush hour I come out before it but. then since the pandemic man now I just. get a green screen in my a green screen. in my [ __ ] room so now I could be at. my school I do the 7 a.m. come home take. a little nap hang out with Jimmy and. [ __ ] on Zoom do the podcast go back. watch my kids strangle people and I'm. there so I'm at the school twice as much. and I do my podcast still the only time. I really leave is the house otherwise is.

the fights cornering people and hanging. out with Dean Thomas doing looking for a. fight F think that's something missing. when you're don't doing a podcast with. someone that they're not in the room. with you oh man don't Don't Rock The. [Music]. Bone having a good. time no don't get me WR it's no you're. right it's it's true we have a good time. in there goes my 700 a.m. class. no no no no uh I love hanging out with.

Jimmy in the room but we have a good. time on the show don't we on zo I come. on every once in a while and I'm able to. be cuz sometimes when I go to the city. and then by the time I get back it's. like a do I feel like heading into the. academy now but now man I'm well and. that was so much wait a minute wait a. minute you're the guy with the real job. yeah what do you mean you you're running. an academy why didn't you get to come. out to you set up. a yeah that's what I'm talking about set. up a little [ __ ] Studio. Jimmy does the serious Radio Jimmy.

serious radio [ __ ] Uber and get out. the what is this nonsense right we. should do that get on the train thank. you listen what's he doing all day he's. jacking. offing he does his Serious XM [ __ ] so. it's near his house oh he does that. every day he does that [ __ ] like five. days a week the Jim and Sam show oh I. every day uh oh so it's just like Opie. and Anthony it's like Opie and Anthony. it's Jim and Sam so he's got that gig. going I'm sure that place [ __ ] pays. really good so you know while so I don't.

know I didn't mind taking the hit going. to the city but now I do since it's a. [ __ ] [ __ ] hole in there now I don't. feel I used to hang out in there [ __ ]. chill. out has it. changed it I haven't been there too much. I haven't been in there since that much. but I know it's shitty from my friends. that live there and and from what I've. seen it's you know I used to be but how. about this I used to be able to go on. with head with old school headphones.

kind of like this you know having my. right you know I used to go I used to. train in the morning I used to get my. head straight and I'd go there just. whistle I'm not going now I'm gonna be. there like [ __ ] Kurt russling that. [ __ ] I'm not GNA be in there. like chilling walking the [ __ ] you. have to be on guard it's [ __ ] nasty. dude that's the couple times I've been. in. there it is what it is but I think you. get a sense of what it's like there now. it's not you just got to have your guard. up and I I did not feel. and I never lower my sword but I didn't.

have to feel like I was so on edge you. see [ __ ] all the time on the [ __ ]. Subway just had that guy you know the. guy got choked you know to death on the. uh on the subway there with the how did. I'm hearing all these different stories. in that yeah well did the guy get choked. to death is that what happened well this. is definitely this is what happened and. the guy threatening people on a on a. train the guy I don't know the Marine. there was a marine and he put him in a.

choke hold I don't know how long he hold. it for I don't know how well he's. trained never seen so this the thing the. people at home when they put a a choke. hold on when you're doing it correctly. it stops the karate arteries I know we. all know this guys I'm just working but. uh it stops the blood flow it doesn't. stop the air but if you stop the blood. flow for 15 minutes the [ __ ] is. not coming back so I don't know what. happened how long we kept it on and. whatnot but the guy who did have a the. choke hold on him had a [ __ ] arrest.

warrant out for punching a [ __ ] 60. something year old lady in the face dude. he had like 40. something no this wasn't your you know. look there were three other people. involved that were holding him you know. when this guy tried to restrain him too. so everybody felt thre this was what was. weird it's like they they made it a race. thing. too the problem was to do that they had. to omit the fact that the other guy. helping him was black. so there's a black guy that's helping. him hold him down and the guy's got his.

arm around this dude and and most of the. people on the subway came out in defense. of this guy said you know thank you and. uh for for helping to protect they. always got to make a narrative of you. don't know what's the truth unless you. were there there's also a problem with. people that are that [ __ ] up like that. guy might have been high as [ __ ] on. fenel he might have been ready to die. anyway you know and if you get in a. Scramble with that dude then all a. sudden you're you got him in a headlock. he might have a [ __ ] heart attack and. die well and I feel I kind of feel bad.

for the dude because I know if it was me. I'm choking the [ __ ] out and I. don't care you know what I'm saying 100%. it's your life the fact that it's that. guy might go to jail for that is a jail. yeah that's what I'm saying that's kind. of scary nobody scary because I'm. choking the [ __ ] out because I'm. trained to do that the only thing that I. couldn't only because I wasn't there is. how long did he hold it. on question I too none of us have seen a. seen a video of him putting to sleep and. the guy just didn't wake up it's like.

all right well maybe the guy shouldn't. be [ __ ] attacking people punching 60. something year old women in the face and. whatever you know what I mean so there's. a case for that but again I couldn't I. can't go to the bat if I don't know how. long he held that on for so you remember. when that guy got uh choked to death for. selling loose cigarettes oh yeah. remember that what was wasy guy big. heavy dude I forgot I forgot his name it. was terrible story Eric Garner terrible. story but there was all these people. that were saying that's not a choke hold. and I was like [ __ ] [ __ ] you that's not. a choke old like let me do that to you.

yeah let me do you don't even know what. you're talking about like that cop had. that dude's head and he had that. sh down he's getting choked yeah and you. know that's the worst case of it he man. but this is like the best case of it. like stopping someone who's been. assaulting people the fact that the guy. died [ __ ] sucks and we can't speak to. it cuz I don't know I don't know is. there a video of the actual choking if. there's a video out there and not that. you want to see the guy die but it's.

crucial to know whether or not exactly. right how long did the guy hold on to. the choke cuz if he did hold on the. choke for like a couple of minutes yeah. that's you don't you don't do that yeah. does he know that though that's that's. the there's another thing he he might. not know that just cuz he's a Marine and. he knows how to do that [ __ ]. everybody knows how okay there's a photo. of him well 100% he choking him yeah. there the photo but. now Paul and Alain for sure kind of. shitty technique but look at his like. his right arm look at he's Goofy with. his hand right so it's not good.

technique it's it's okay I saw a guy get. interviewed he claim this he was talk. this guy was talking through it he said. he used it more to restrain him but I. guess that's what you that will that'll. work right that's old school UFC Palm on. the head it does work but that's not. like what a black belt does that's like. a serious guy hey you know what kind of. scared me recently not to be a dick and. I love Michael Bisping and uh who else. did it Marvin vtor but uh [ __ ] man guys. when you want to do the re and I love. Michael bis I get along with him very.

well they put a couple they put steo and. someone else the same hey hey. guys do a now look you don't can I say. something right now and and uh and and I. I I do you mind do you mind if I do this. to Dean Thomas can I oh wait a I'm. m not exactly where you are but just. when you're doing the proper re elbows. in I want the elbow uh underneath the. point of the chair. that way I know I'm on the crowded. arteries I'm not going to do it but now.

if I just slightly go to compress what. the [ __ ] man like I don't know like I. feel like if it's on the wind. pipe I'm looking at this thing like guys. you you might crush his [ __ ] throat. like look at the amount of pressure he's. putting all of his weight behind him. like look what he's doing and he's still. holding it but his on but his Forum was. on his windpipe and Mikey I love Mikey I. love Mike I do but guys come on man [ __ ]. that's also like he he like leaned into.

it I know he got all of his weight. behind it that was I would never that. guy was out you want a v on the neck you. want a [ __ ] that's not a v I'm with. that's a [ __ ]. L he's doing the number four on his neck. dude it should be a v on the neck that. didn't hurt you when I was doing it and. you'll be sleeping it under 10 10. seconds I so if you're going to choke. out radio DJs do it properly. align your elbow with the chin there's a.

lot of those DJs get choked out I mean. God damn I don't know I was looking at. it like dude I'm a jiujitsu guy what. the like guys I mean yeah you'll put him. out but [ __ ] you going to hurt him you. going to hurt him before you put him out. hurt his [ __ ] guy's not going to be. eating soup for a [ __ ] week that guy. anyway that just bothers me I hear you. you know it's a good thing to talk about. those guys yeah cuz I yeah people get. why do people want to get choked out. like that too why do they want to go to. sleep yeah they have like this. infatuation like maybe we're Fighters. and just like I want to see what it. feels like oh you know what the worst.

one is steo with Tim Kennedy Tim Kennedy. choked him sleep and then dropped. him bounced off his [ __ ] head on the. theater floor why why you think Tim. Kennedy would know better than I I don't. think Tim Kennedy gives a [ __ ] Tim. Kennedy's a wild boy that's a speci look. at this he chokes him to sleep holy [ __ ]. but again look with the elbow placement. his feet are dagl hold on wait what is. he oh on what damn that was there people. watching yeah this was on his show oh no.

that might have been I bet you he told. the AL placement was better when I saw. the second I think he did tell him to. drop him and Tim's like okay right I'll. drop you he's got his feet dang really. bad though very very very very bad head. on the floor too you could die that's. what I'm talking about that partan the. choking. out why would people do that he's crazy. he wants that to I know but why would. but why would Tim Kennedy put himself in. that position cuz if he dies he's. responsible for that's a real thing. that's a real thing that's why I don't.

choke nobody out like that yeah that's a. real thing that's a real thing in fights. Oh Hey listen 100% I mean you could end. a situation just as easy with like when. I that [ __ ] idiot when I was in Vegas. easy right hand at his [ __ ] chin I. was looking at him like the RoboCop. where I saw the chin right there but. then he's taking his shirt off I'm just. like get out you. [ __ ] [ __ ] and my kids were. right there so much better I hit him. head the I'm [ __ ] yeah also the way. you did it it was kind of beautiful to.

show everybody like look this is a and. he's. laughing I mean it was beautiful one. point great commercial for Jiu-Jitsu I. use that all the time as a [ __ ] I'm. no salesman but I tell people and I mean. it though I really do mean it I don't. point to any of my fights with with like. with with the guys I fought I fought. from some killers and stuff I I tell. people to look up that not and it's not. for bragging rights it like it's. not just happened yeah you laughing when.

gu look how you're you're holding his. wrist it's like you're doing a seminar. oh no 100% a lesson a lesson but you. know what I know what I I really like. though about Brazilian jiu-jitsu is well. this is how it started though cuz they. came in like Weekend at Bernie's so he's. putting glasses on her and [ __ ] so at. first it was kind of funny like I'm like. I'm like look at this look at her she's. done she's done look look look she's. good. Lord so you got to stand where is this. is in Vegas this is at the uh at the Red.

Rock Casino where the fatita brothers. own this this the weekend that you got. inducted to the Hall of Fame right look. at this guy throwing up his. guard and right now he's see what. happened was I'm with my wife and my. kids it's July 4th cuz the next day I. was going into the Hall of Fame so and. this fat [ __ ] oh you're just subd doing. him all right get off him yeah dude are. you going to [ __ ] control him cuz. he's going to at that point nothing. happened I was waiting for this guy to. grab my balls or something when this you. know what I mean yeah cuz there's going.

to be a lapse between me not controlling. him and him not getting. involved but right my the thing was we. were we the next day I was going into. does he try to swing at when he gets up. no now he's saying he wants to press. charges so what I what happened was. charge with embarrassing. him it was the day before I was going to. go into the Hall of Fame and my wife's. like oh we had family there in Vegas to. for me getting inducted in so she goes.

oh you want to go down to the to the the. uh the strip to see the fireworks and. I'm like listen man there's a lot of. drunks I don't want to let's just keep. it lowkey and then we'll celebrate. tomorrow so sure enough we're at the Red. Rock Casino which is so cool I love that. place great place uh there's a bowling. alley in there there's a movie theater. you know I love the movies and so me and. my wife my kids and and my sister and. her kid were there so we're at the cafe. and then you see them two walk in the. two the the the guy and his girlfriend. they were really hammered they left he.

left her there she slumped in the thing. like past out then he came back and he. came back really hostile and he was like. throwing [ __ ] at the [ __ ] the waiters. and and I go to my wife I go we gotta. get we got to get the [ __ ] out of here I. go because I just know it's G to get if. something goes near my gets thrown in. all Direction I just know I just know. it's I got to get out of there cuz it's. not good sure enough my waiter was. bringing me my check. and the guy got up he got up like like.

this so he it just instinctively I got. up and then he turned right to me and. this is what I this is and again this is. what I tell my students because I don't. look like a [ __ ] I don't look like John. R I don't look like John R gets up this. is not but uh so like I don't look like. a [ __ ] the guy looked at me goes you. got a [ __ ]. problem and so I'm I'm already angled. I'm not gonna be on World Star Hip Hop. you know what I'm I'm already angled so. that he [ __ ] takes that [ __ ] shirt. off and nothing's going to get better. after that so I stepped in round the.

waist put him down the whole place is. clapping at that point that's what you. don't and I tell my sister I go Sammy I. go film this because I know what's gonna. happen I know he's gonna say I'm UFC. guy's beating him up so that's her my. sister filmed that she's also not she's. also the one with the big mouth yeah. that's right that's not my wife my. wife's so then you know then I I gave. him a little lesson and then security. ended up coming and at one point you. know I'm telling him to calm down and I.

look up and I see my my my nine my My. Maria my middle child at the time she. was like like nine and says she's. looking up like you know like a like a. little like uh like you know terrified. kind of you know so at one point I look. up her with the same tone like I'm like. oh no it's okay sound talking to him you. know so it sounds like I'm talking to. him but I was talking to my kid but uh. you know afterwards with that I sent the. video to the Dana and I go hey tell. Lorenzo to get better security in this. [ __ ]. so that's what he put it out there the.

TMZ but I tell the students to look at. that the guys that are coming in if. they're unsure of Jiu-Jitsu for them I. go. look it's first of all it's nothing to. brag about you all know this it's a. drunk white belt it's not like I'm. [ __ ] hey look what I did everybody. you know I I fought some guys that did. something but to the untrained eye it's. kind of cool you know it's like. Jiu-Jitsu is like a superpower it really. is man if you that is a much yeah please. good I'm sorry Joe I was going to say. it's such a much better result than the. Joe Schilling one oh man let let's show.

that this is this is wore scenario it's. the other end of the SP you could use. Jitsu or you could use Muay Thai as W in. boxing so here we're talking but this is. one of the beautiful things about. Jiu-Jitsu we're talking from a. perspective of a Jiu-Jitsu champion UFC. champion and a Muay Thai champion and. watch how Joe Shilling handles this dude. because this is one of the most horrific. videos that any drunk douchebag should. ever see this should be they should show. you in drunk drunk douchebag school like.

this this can happen to you so he bumps. into him and then the guy says Hey and. Joe Schilling turns around the guy. [ __ ] all he had to do all that dude. had to do was Flinch at him and Joe hit. the switch but this and you is crazy. this guy just looks like a yepy. douchebag though well apparently that. guy on his [ __ ] nerves he had been. annoying everybody at the bar oh he. looks like a dick look at. this you I'm happy about I I I heard I. heard he got off okay I heard he got off.

yeah he got off stand ground law stand. your groundw cuz it happened in Florida. where you could basic you can do. anything Florida God bless. Florida that's [ __ ] great bro that's. the last stop if I move to Florida the. [ __ ] Empire is on the way. out when I moved to Florida Joe. Schilling is a Savage man he's so quiet. but man that guy was switch will turn in. a minute well you know what he's he's. got he's a great guy yeah nice to him. he's the best guy you could ever be. friends with yeah for sure but that's.

the wrong dude to Flinch on oh my God. that's that's the way it should be. though you know most Fighters are that. way yeah most Fighters AR like that that. was totally unnecessary like that guy. did not have to do that to him the whole. thing was provoked he's a dick yeah he. he deserved it yeah he deserved it. learned a lesson that's the universe man. and those are videos for everybody to. see too like kids should see that and go. oh yeah it's you know what it is it's. Darwinism you know what I'm saying like. when you ask so like that you dumb you. get knocked out right or you get eaten.

back in the day that's how it was you. know if you talk [ __ ] you got hit you. suffered consequences now there are no. consequen that's why I got that's why I. got off Twitter I I haven't been on. Twitter in eight it's my life is better. it's better I I don't even know what. goes on there I that's what I'm saying. like I'm in my world like I do the. Instagram because I like to spread. positivity and I like to do stuff like. that with my schools and stuff but the. Twitter thing I felt I don't get it I. liter I I get it if there's some. important message that you want out. there for people that can't get it out. there I get that but otherwise I would.

just see negativity I maybe I don't want. maybe I'm too sensitive I didn't like it. I didn't [ __ ] like I want to be like. Jay and Silent Bob and start going all. right you [ __ ]. suuck shown up doorbells the best I did. not like how easy it is for people just. to talk [ __ ] without any kind of. repercussions I'm just I don't know it's. also you're just dealing with too much. negativity it's not good for you it's. not good it's not good for you. negativity should be treated like a. [ __ ] cancer and I do that at my.

school and you get it out if you just. one [ __ ] shitty guy with a shitty. attitude could affect [ __ ] how many. more dude I pluck them right the [ __ ]. out cancer you got get write the [ __ ]. out out of your life too out of my life. and it's a lot easier now too when we. were talking about the pandemic how I. said I don't have to go to the city. anymore I used to have two schools I. lost a school from the. pandemic [ __ ] awesome it's the best. thing that ever. happened what some people we talked.

about this earlier cuz you [ __ ] you. you got your fifth school now John's. some people like to expand and that. works for them I find and as I get older. downgrading is the way to [ __ ] go I. like one school everybody's Under One. Roof I got I I got three jobs one's. funner than the my school's my main. thing my thing with Jimmy doing the Dana. White looking for a fight with Dean I. don't want to do that that's it this is. my retirement man this is it maybe some.

voiceover [ __ ] that's tell me about that. too great balance that's what you want. out of life you want a great balance. [ __ ] you like to do yeah I heard on here. one time I like that Jordan Peterson I. never talk to Himes I like when when you. say when you talk to smart people it's. like talking to an ape I'd be whatever's. beneath an ape so I'm not so if he talk. if you're talking to him you feel you're. an. ape so but I love his [ __ ] I love what. he said says I remember he was on here. once talking about how and I'm going to.

paraphrase for sure but retirement is. like a there's like really not that. there's no such thing but what is your. idea of retirement he said like the. thing with drinking a Margaritas like. that's a postcard that a post card. that's not a retirement it's not a real. a strategy for your life exactly yeah. I've heard people like I just can't wait. to retire can't wait to retire can't. then they retire like I don't know what. the [ __ ] to do with myself like they. don't and then they end up [ __ ] dying. so I think quality of life and I I think. I learned a lot of this from Ray Longo. who's 65 and still [ __ ] going I.

quality of life is like to me the most. important thing like you know what I. mean how you I agree it's everything. we've experienced enough douchebags in. our life we've experienced enough shitty. times now you just want to hang around. good people chill out a time I was. telling Matt earlier that uh the. Republican party in Maryland actually. asked me if I would run for the US. senate seat and I said John R for. president let go let's [ __ ] go. the most jacked president in the history. of the universe you got Maryland locked.

down BJ got Hawaii locked down that's. what I want the rest of the world to see. when they think about an American. president a John R looking. [ __ ] on the. G but I said the same thing you're going. to it's going to ruin your [ __ ] life. they're going to be up your ass with a. microscope you're going to they're going. to torture your family in the media and. I said to Matt I go I enjoy my life the. way it is right now you know I said it's. comfortable I'm happy I'm My Own boss. you know we all thank henzo cuz he's. given us all a nice career through the.

education we got with him so thank God. forz hzo the best he's the best what a. [ __ ] guy he is and what a lineage. that guy's. created he's changed a lot of lives. Gracie documentary that I was just doing. I was like there's a few black belts. when someone says I got a black belt. under Hixon right I got a black belt. under henzo that's a big [ __ ] deal. that's that's one of those you know. that's like you know graduating from y. that's the real deal no I mean that's.

the proudest I mean I'm I'm hz's first. American you can say hiard made it. technically is yeah but I don't consider. that since you're three years old over. there he moved over he went to Brazil. when he was like two months so I I will. claim to be the first americ but uh. henzo when he came over he was just so. giving man like he brought me over I was. cornering him in the Rings tournament. and and pride and these things when. I was a purple bout I was I didn't make. a name for myself yet like and he just.

he really just did so much for so many I. remember I remember first you know what. and and the thing about henzo is he's so. different from like the traditional. Brazilian black belt right cuz he's so. like you said he's so giving and he's so. it's like tradition don't matter to him. when he said when they were talk about. oh you got to have your belt tied this. way and he and he said the belt is. whatever the way it ends up that's the. way I tie yeah whenever it ends up. that's how it's supposed to be TI man. universally loved every everyone loves.

hzo and and he's funny too because like. you know now I remember there was um. like a modern Jiu-Jitsu student was in. the blue basement and henzo was teaching. there one night and he goes henzo when. he was naming all the when you go from. the K coyote guard to the K he go to the. K guard to henzo goes my friend don't. make jiujitsu only for the intellectuals. show me show me the. move and I. right there you.

hell bro I listened to some of the. commentary I I'm not exactly sure what. they're saying oh man I can't yeah I. don't know what the [ __ ] it makes it. weird when they start going oh you don't. know the coyote guard it's I go dude man. [ __ ] oh Oh you mean the. underhook when you're getting out with. been doing that since the last. Millennium [ __ ] they feel like. they're teaching you because they know. the words and it's like but it's weird. I'm not well there there's some [ __ ]. like deah hea you know like people you. have to understand that. no I get it no and I don't want to hate. on I'm not hating on anything newu.

either I love it all you know what I. mean but uh it could get confusing it. getus so you don't want to the leg lock. game is confusing as [ __ ] right right. right like the whole when I yeah when I. was training it wasn't there was no leg. locks it was very rare it was every now. and then some dude learned some [ __ ]. from back in the day it was frowned upon. you know it was very frowned upon why. foot locks were okay though everybody. got foot figure four foot locks knee bar. straight knee bar was okay occasionally. knee bar but like heel hooks were. dangerous yeah yeah but then God damn.

the whole game changed well Dan her John. Dan my good buddy the dark that that. conversation he had with Dean liser Dean. liser was sleeping on my futon when he. had that [ __ ] Dean Lista was visiting. staying at my place training with me and. I was living with hrio Gracie at the. time in uh Woodmere Long Island we had. an apartment it was [ __ ] awesome and. uh and Dean lster was visiting and. that's when I would take him in and he. was taking out like most of the academy.

with the leg locks back then you know. and uh that's when he had that. conversation with John about why he uh. ignore 50% of the body and then John. starts [ __ ]. tching. computer change the entire trajectory of. that guy is someone right out of a. [ __ ] movie Don her like that would. that would not be a real person in any. other time in history that you get a guy. who's a professor of philosophy at. Columbus. who becomes addicted to Jiu-Jitsu and. sleeps on the mats and just teaches.

people and he's like a legit genius. wears rashu guards everywhere doesn't. give a [ __ ] about anything but Jiu-Jitsu. had one one at dinner last night yeah he. had one at my. wedding came to my wedding in a rash. he's an animal he's an animal and he's. so [ __ ] smart man it's all he gives a. [ __ ] about is Combat Sports no we just. we talked about it yesterday we were out. to eat yesterday and I'm like Johnny. give me a day in the life and he's. telling me about all the teaching all. cuz I thought maybe he lightened up his. load cuz back in the day in henzo he.

just teach teach teach and You' see him. aill to the side on a pillow and then. you know then he get back up do some. more privates I know from being a. teacher you could get [ __ ] burnt the. [ __ ] out I don't know how he does that. like that's it's just how he's just he. doesn't do anything else his first t. television that he had my buddy Chad. LeBron you might CH Chad I do remember. uh he was a we called hillbilly he was. from Virginia he came down to stay for a. little bit in New York to train with us.

couldn't take it he goes oh I was in the. supermarket I said thanks ma'am she goes. I'm not older than you he goes oh anyway. he just didn't like the whole New York. attitude so he goes I gave John my TV. because he the only reason he took it is. because he could play the it had a uh a. VHS and a and a DVD thing or whatever. that he could watch wrestling videos on. and [ __ ] like that that's all he'd watch. he doesn't watch anything else. he doesn't believe in any kind of like. any marriage or love or he's a [ __ ].

he's an odd duck he's a cyborg I me he's. the oddest duck I've ever encountered. he's always been that way he's as smart. as anybody I've ever talked to he's as. smart as Elon he's as smart as all these. people yeah he's just smart about. killing people this guy just got his. driver's license he's 50 what Drive in. Austin acquires me to. drive and he will end up back in New. York sooner or later no we got him I. can't we got him out here I can't.

picture him it's weird seeing him. anywhere other than New York you know. he's thriving out here though no I know. listen do you know he's Gary tonin's. striking coach too yeah is he really. isn't that wild I mean I believe it I. mean he if you study the game I mean it. just comes down to information and. knowledge yeah but the I I would very. rarely say that I would trust someone. who's never struck like never like being. a striker to be a striking coach except. for him right except for him for him I'm.

like yeah he'll figure it out he. probably best at it I like Gary I think. I wish Gary was in the UFC so more. people could see him in he's got an. exciting exciting his Jiu-Jitsu game is. [ __ ] a risk taker and yeah he's a. risk that for sure and sometimes it cost. him but that match with CR was one of my. favorites put on the. M showed how good cron is too to come. back from that and win I feel for cron. in that last one last one was not good. you know I don't know what was going on.

you know you'd have to talk to cron and. respectfully he looked depressed going. in throughout the fight just looking. like he didn't want to be there I'm not. laughing at that might as well tell you. listen I was telling you guys this the. other day so I got ulcerated of colitis. I that it has to do with this CH was. like really what the [ __ ] it has to do. with oh I have stomach issues man I got. [ __ ] I when I have to go I have to go. and then you don't don't know when it. stops and oh it's it's a problem so I'm. at the UFC uh alj Jo's wait when cron.

fought did aljo fight the night or Mor. rob it was that Mor I can't remember. sure it was one of them but I was there. I I I think I was there for alo alo was. fighting that night that's right so I'm. in I asked the UFC to find me a a stall. a little bit um private because I got. stomach issues right so they brought me. next to another one that wasn't so open. and it was through the by the showers. and stuff so I'm in there doing my. business and also I hear some people by.

the [ __ ] showers and it was grown and. his whole crew and it was right after. the loss right oh no so I'm in the they. don't know I'm in there so I'm like oh. no trying to St my Fe I'm like I'm. clinching my ass and I'm like and he's. all said I hear a I hear you know man. you. know you know they wanted me to use my. Jiu-Jitsu I tried to use my Jiu-Jitsu. that fight sucked and he's stress he's. venting to his team you know nothing you. know I'm not there nothing crazy but. it's any it's normal after a loss to be.

yeah and the team's being quiet all I. know is I'm stuck in the [ __ ] stall I. want to sneak out the door is. there I could make it but they're going. to see. me the sink is over there I got to wash. my hands you ever think about saying hey. guys it's Matt Sarah I'm taking a [ __ ] I. didn't know what to no I didn't know. what to say it was they were cuz they. were trying to consult like they weren't. really saying they would have knew. somebody was in there I know so but I. was finishing up I was almost out I was. trying to stop my feet so I I end up.

finishing I finish and I walk out I I go. I wash my hands and he looks up he goes. what's up Sarah I'm like I hey cron I go. and you don't know what to say you know. and I've been there obviously I got my. losses so I go hey man I go look man to. be honest you're going to feel like this. until you kick someone else's ass I go. then then you're going to that's going. to that's going to help it help you man. yeah bye. oh my god dude I just wanted to [ __ ]. put a lamb shade in there oh my God.

that's hilarious it was bad scenario I. want to see that in a cartoon yeah right. animate that animate that gets me in. trouble um this the colitis thing what. do you do for that well what I just went. and saw a specialist again I had three. Colones and it's one thing they don't. even they don't even tell me to stay. away from a food I'm like so I could. just eat anything I'm even asking my. wife cuz I'm a little drogy after being. [ __ ] put out and them you know.

exploring my ass uh so I'm like do I. have to stay away from anything and. they're not telling me nothing no just. no like all all right have you ever. tried to adjust your diet have you ever. tried to do like Carnival you tried to. do that you know I you know what I did. what I did for a while and I believe it. helped me initially with my weight. because like I said I used to be a fatty. uh I did the gluten-free for a while mhm. for a for a while cuz now did the. colitis help did get better you know.

what it was I ended up having to get. like hospitalized with my stomach. because I was having extreme flareups at. one point and I didn't know what was. going on so I went in there and they put. me on an IV and I was just on liquids. until it calmed down and then the last. so then after that I started stewing. gluten- free cuz I didn't want to eat. anything that I remembered that was. flaring it up and that was like Italian. food and stuff yeah but I was eating. still Italian but the gluten-free one. glutenfree raviolis there some good [ __ ].

and uh and I lost a bunch of weight I I. feel I feel the glutenfree help helped. me out a lot because I wasn't getting. bloated anymore I. noticed cauliflower pizza and stuff like. that I wasn't getting bloated now I. don't think I'm getting bloated because. I don't think I'm holding [ __ ] in I'm. just like [ __ ] having the [ __ ] but uh. yeah so that's where it was with that. and then the last time I went which was. literally a couple weeks ago they gave. me something which I didn't do last time. like a bad boy I got to do a stool. sample I hate doing you got to take a.

[ __ ] in a bucket I got to take a [ __ ] in. a bucket and then you have but that it's. like Mission Impossible you have 24. hours to get that. [ __ ] so like and I always and I always. no no pun intended I always forget to do. [ __ ] so I don't want to do it and then. like not get it there in. time but how would you forget that. though like. you dud that smell dude my wife. my wife the other day she woke she she. woke me up from a she woke me up from a.

nap or whatever she goes you ever you. forget something last night like what. are you talking about you left the hes. in the pool I a [ __ ] I always forget I. went to I had to fill up the pool a. little bit dude my my ADD I smoke a lot. of Rea too my my ad is pretty bad it's. pretty bad dude I'll be teaching a move. not to get you guys worried cuz I'm. usually in that state anyway I'll teach. a move and I'll go into something and. then I'll go back to show I'll be I'm. like I hope this guy puts me back where. I was I forgot where we were.

I we we okay Mount all right we back to. Mount I don't know man have you have you. ever gone and got like blood work done. and got got everything checked out at. like a reputable place that looks at all. your levels and finds out what's going. on I mean I got my TT doc that I go. every I every six weeks I get my my. everything checked for me all my levels. would you might have food allergies man. you might you might be it's the way. you're talking about the gluten and the. pasta it's like there's a lot people. that react like that you know who know. who actually gave me great advice or who. had SE say he told me something very.

similar I was just in Manchester England. with George St Pierre and we were doing. like a like a signing out there he got. me hooked up with it he's such a. sweetheart George and he told me that he. had ulcerate of kitis the same as me and. the stuff he was telling me is the same. [ __ ] I deal with and I'm like [ __ ]. that's right see I see Blood also yeah. this is gross so [ __ ] so he was. [ __ ] so we were talking about it and. he said that he what he does is the. intimate fasting so now he eats only.

between 1 and 9 he only eats between 1. p.m. and 9 and that's his window of. eating and he feels great Hees it went. away so I'm not doing that [ __ ] yet but. I might try that I might try that he. does long fast he's done like multiple. like I think like 7 hours there D said. he does just the water he said he does. that he that the Kickstart it but then. he that now he stays on that schedule a. lot of people swear by that every now. and again I think I I mean you know what.

it is because of my stomach I do eat. less like I'll have two slices and a and. a and a hero instead of like a pie is. that I think that might be the worst. [ __ ] I think you know how you can. overtrain your body yeah I think you can. overuse your digestive system you know. if you're a guy like me or you like I I. have a real problem if I come home and. I'm tired I just [ __ ] eat I just open. up that fridge go is that why you moved.

here for real though to keep your diet. in check you be W all the good Italian. food if I was in Austin too I wouldn't. be dialing [ __ ] pizza every day dude. the two brothers and the the stuff near. me the Umberto they can't make a bad. slice it's [ __ ] ridiculous there's. great food out here there's great food. out here I'm not eating pizza so I don't. know but there's there's great food out. here everywhere you go there's like. these different restaurants and food. trucks and everything I'll take you guys. somewhere fun tonight we'll go eat. somewhere no I I you know it is also I. think why I'm staying in better shape is. I I I used to always blow up as you know.

like but because I knew I'd be getting. it off because I had a fight coming up. right so it's like if I'm fighting twice. a year half the year I'm training so. yeah I'll become a fatty in between I'd. be a [ __ ] Dan enjoy yourself Dana. used to always say the same joke and he. always has all like you know like the. the evil villain says something all the. other gu henchman like so he used always. see me he used to always see me and goes. oh it looks like you ate Matt Sarah and. they ah. I'm like [ __ ] you Dana oh my God the.

same all the little [ __ ] guys. laughing but uh anyway so then so now I. knew because I don't have anything. coming up like I like four days a week. like like 7 a.m. I do that 7 A.M class. so I start the day sweating and even. when I'm not rolling I'm [ __ ] drop. cagin doing some arm locks so I just. thought that they sweating and I think. it's it just gets my metabolism going. for sure you know dude you're built like. your dad your dad's a fire when I first. met his father I thought it was his.

brother I we were at henzo wrestle off. Robie Doby stuff and I said to Matt I. goes that another brother he goes. brother he goes you know never met my. dad it was his he had 19 he's pretty. young he had me young yeah yeah I was. the best mistake he ever. had that's hilarious yeah yeah yeah. that's hilarious but yeah he did good. with that but uh that yeah my father was. a black belt on the hzo also wow that's. that's crazy to me that's amazing not a. lot of.

those [ __ ] man he has no neck either the. north south choke we used to call the. north south choke the papa choke that's. nice cuz henzo you know used to call him. Papa and he used to get north south and. he had no [ __ ] CH he had his chest. was like a barrel he get [ __ ] that. who was the first guy to started doing. that because we used to think that was. like a goon move north south CH was my. dad I'll be honest with you when like. when was a blue belt after uh Frank beat. Tito I went the train which with him.

like I asked henzo you care if I go see. what's up cuz I want to learn what he. was doing for cardio and uh he showed me. a north south choke he called it like a. PEC choke and when I I showed henzo the. move like you know henzo was in like. intrigued with it and then he came up. he's got a whole chain of things off of. if the guy turns this way lock him up if. he turns the other way he's punch. choking. like it was pretty slick but um I mean. that was the first time I had seen it. but so it used to at one point in time I.

remember Monson. got got famous known he put what brand I. think he put Brandon Lee hle out with it. if I'm not who he put out with that. Monson was a goon he was he was so. strong he is a goon but I mean he get a. I mean that in the best possible term. he's a gorilla that guy was so big at. one point in time I remember he fought. someone in Abu Dhabi and he got a bad. decision so he took was cl yeah P Pano. P he neck cranked him and it was illegal.

P Pano tapped and cuz he figured he's. getting disqualified they told mons and. he won and then ah cranked his neck it. was illegal and they took it from him. look how Jack that dude was Jes he's. rushing. nowz said his shorts that he took off. like they have one of them side like. open bars his two shorts hanging in one. of the bars in Brazil that's exactly the. way my father does it yeah yeah I mean. and he was so [ __ ] strong he got a. hold of your neck that's one of my moves.

too he inspired me when I had to fight. for the title he inspired me to go For. Broke because his fight with Tim Silva. is the worst piece of [ __ ] I ever seen. in my life I saw that fight and it was. it was a short ball guy shooting from. across the cage on that that that big. dork Tim Sylvia and. [ __ ] you know it was [ __ ] the. worst fight I go look I will rather get. knocked the [ __ ] out. then have that as my one title shot cuz. that's what it would have looked that it. might have resembled that if I just.

tried to get George down you know what I. mean I remember that knockout like. amazing while it was happening I could. not [ __ ] believe my eyes when you. knocked out GSP I remember that too I. was like holy [ __ ] you always had weird. power some dudes just have weird power. yeah Longo you know what it was though. when we came into the the it's the. Journey of the uh of the the way the. philosophy is my philosophy was I I was. like a street fighting kid I knocked a. couple guys out I did a tough man. contest at 18 uh Mr T was the referee I.

broke I swear to God Mr he was the. referee if you look at I brought this up. one the last time I was actually here. [ __ ] how many years ago and uh I. knocked two guys out and the third guy I. lost worst concussion I had of my life I. fought three times in an hour at the. padium in Manhattan to this day my jaw. from that my God from that cont that was. your job that's crazy yeah I thought it. was go eat pizza afterwards my [ __ ] my. [ __ ] was out of whack so I figured it. was a broken jaw and I went there they.

said it wasn't broken but to that day oh. my God that's so weird [ __ ] wild but uh. it hurt where was that again uh P weird. power de knows me well I got to keep. yeah I know guys it's bad but uh yeah so. so then when the Gracies came along. that's when I was 18 so then the Gracies. came along they go no no you could never. exchange don't exchange that's it's it's. a crapshoot if you exchange don't. exchange exchange close the distance so.

I adapted that philosophy and I was. living jiujitsu living it living it. living it and then ignoring the Striking. because everybody was at that point cuz. it was like when the UFC came on the. scene it's like look at you Jitsu [ __ ]. everything else so then then then all. sudden everything started coming back. around so that's when Longo's like told. you [ __ ] sucker like okay so so Longo.

Jes has to make me Guinea mat look at. you look at this oh my God this is all. thanks to Ray long oh look at that right. hand dude this was the craziest thing. you had some crazy power Mater I'm sure. you still do but you really did then. thanks buddy dude look at that boom boom. I mean it was freaky power it was one of. those things where like watching George. tap to strikes yeah in in this situation. I mean this was a wild wild upset had a. house full of people the crazy thing was.

you know again you were known as this. Jiu-Jitsu Champion you were known as one. of the best Jiu-Jitsu guys ever to come. out of America so do you for you to see. you knocking guys out like that was wild. when I had to fight thank you first of. all thanks when I had to fight Carol. perisian uh I took the fight and I was I. was healthy but when I first got the. call few weeks before that a couple. weeks before that I had a to meniscus so. when they asked me I'm like I go I could. I could run I go the feet the floor.

didn't feel good the wrestling I. couldn't do so I I I felt like it's. gonna tear off if I did that but I could. do some jiujitsu I could run and I could. box so we did a lot of boxing for that. he would R would and I think that truly. helped me because it got it's weird. because I got tied in that fight and I. very rarely get tied and I truly believe. is because I did not mimic the fight. with defeat the floor sparring I didn't. do it so you know when that's a that's a. that's a a different kind of win that. you need to to do it it's like wrestling.

it's up and down up and down and I. didn't have that and I got one of my few. times in my career I got winded and it. was. Carol one of the he's probably one of. the worst guys to get winded with. because I [ __ ] had a good gas. tank so I almost knocked him out in the. beginning cuz all that boxing play I. just did nothing B hands for that. [ __ ] thing and I was really getting. used to Rolling and coming back and. landing and Longo was happy with it he. was taking me to the Brooklyn to work at. L negley's school too in Brooklyn and I. was getting fresh faces and I was really. starting to feel good and get the timing. in that I never had with the with the.

standup so where I [ __ ] up with I had. him. hurt I had him up against the [ __ ]. thing he got a [ __ ] Judo grip inside. my [ __ ] pants you see me go to the. ref he's got a grip by that time he. weathered it I still had to shoot my. load got tired it went the way it went. that got me into the tough house which. led to good things but two things the. one when I got him hurt I didn't line. that [ __ ] up you know what I'm saying I. just just [ __ ] so when I heard George. he Longo pointed to that he goes when. you heard.

him manage your distance keep your. distance manage and line it up and. that's what we did and a couple things. Longo had me doing with a he had me. having a [ __ ] ball a like like a. medicine ball kind of it was rubber but. it was heavy and he wouldd have me just. throw it after each during the circuit. training even after sparring 25 times. that's his [ __ ] head bro stop. throwing [ __ ] thing stop throwing the. [ __ ]. so [ __ ] Longo really made me believe. that that could [ __ ] stand with this.

guy he goes did they think you're going. to try to get him down you're not g to. try to get him down and I remember. looking at that Jeff mson fight and that. cemented it I go dude did you wasn't GNA. do that right I'm not doing that I'm not. gonna do that I go I'm so I didn't know. I was going to knock him out but I knew. that I had a very good chance of doing. it because I was hurting guys with the. 16 ounce gloves and you know long goes. long go like look man with his [ __ ]. head and he goes standing up he's doing. some R [ __ ] it's not that big listen. he's I love George and he's better the. stuff he was doing standing at the time.

Longo had guys feeding me the exact [ __ ]. it was weird it was some Matrix [ __ ] CU. then in the fight I remember at one. point he did a high kick a low kick a. high kick I remember just being like. Bing Bing oh I feel like. Spider-Man so it just it was a good it. it felt like a good day of sparring you. know wow and by the way everybody out. there don't watch the. rematch when when you went into the. rematch were you injured. you never well who's. not I'm gonna just tell you the word the.

word was before the rematch Matt had. hurt his back and that I had heard that. you'd hurt your back well the thing is. this I this is what happened I was. supposed to fight Matt Hughes right and. and that's when you hurt your back back. yeah and then I was out and then that's. when they fought Matt this was New. Year's Eve so this was New Year's Eve. when I was out with my. back so they fought New Year's Eve I.

know cuz we did a watch party at MSG you. know and they fought so I didn't know. who I was fighting that point so then I. had my back was out so then George beat. Matt so now I was fighting George I was. gonna fight Matt as my first title. defense so now I was gonna fight George. and then I for GE so my back was out on. what is that uh the 31st DEC this is the. very injury you were talking about. earlier the very same injury I talked. about earlier cuz I was supposed to. fight no yes that is the that is the.

same injury I was supposed to fight Matt. that's right I ended up fighting Matt. eventually right but that's what it was. I'm trying to think of the timeline so. this was the December uh what is it 20. 31st that's when they fought so that I. had to fight George in April so there. months there for me to but I had to go. through a camp yeah but if you have. herniated disc and you go into a. chiropractor so. on yeah you making it worse he's hanging. I wasn't walking then but I ended up.

getting the weight off and and and being. able to fight I wasn't I wasn't well I. was walking but how about this when I'm. when you bend over to brush your teeth I. wasn't able to do this F I was a [ __ ]. I was for how long it was do my my my. black Bel Dr Yasha I'm giving him a. shout out cuz he gave me an epidural in. the city you know Yasha you had two. epidor before that fight I didn't want. to say it unless you well well he gave. that to me in I guess January that they.

just kills the pain it got I don't know. what it did exactly but it got me back. it got me back to being that do an. epidural it's just it's a surgery thing. and it doesn't it does not always work. either you know it helped me I was I was. afraid I wasn't coming back and he got. me back you know but that's what they. what they do with women when when have. 100. had you know provides anesthesia that. creates a band of numbness from your.

belly button to your upper legs it. allows you to be awake and alert through. Labor okay so but it's also it's not. that there's also an epidural for uh. back injuries Dural Google that epidural. back injuries it must be like some sort. of a pain epidural there it is um. blocker so was January yeah that's so. there it is right there Cleveland. epidural steroid injections yeah so uh. anesthesia's injection an anesthetic. into the epidural spine around your. spine so it could stop pain signals so.

that's what it. is but your back is still weak still. [ __ ] up 100% did it affect your. movement with the epidural no listen I. I'm going to this is what I'm going to. say I don't want you to say this because. you're making an excuse I'm just asking. you as a human being like what what was. it like the I'm going to say this is. what I'll say the epidural it took me a. little bit to get back into into being. able to train properly but you got to. think I got to that fight I got I got I.

it wasn't my [ __ ] best my best uh. camp but I got there and I showed up and. I took my shot and I and I signed the. dotted line and I feel George was so on. point that night what a [ __ ] night. that was too man that was [ __ ] insane. 50,000 people right chance [ __ ] you I. Longo doesn't speak quietly I couldn't. hear him in between rounds chance a [ __ ]. you sah. all I hear was [ __ ] you Sarah you know. what it was it was around the time of um.

talad kns so I did it thing where I go. he should just drink his red wine and. shut the [ __ ] up I was doing some some I. go I was calling him Frenchie but it was. all from the movie I and I love George. and it was uh it was you know I was a. kid too it was you know whatever it was. but my I feel George was so on point. that night that if I had my even if I. wasn't [ __ ] Tip Top I think I. probably it probably would have res him. and and and and Nick Diaz with me like. surv I didn't like that I got I stopped.

you know what I mean that that that. tortured me matter of fact when I was. going to fight Frank Trigg there was. pictures of Frank Trig's face. photoshopped on George saying I remember. reading a thing who else thinks that. Frank Trig's gonna wrestle [ __ ] Sarah I. go what the [ __ ] is that I'm a jiujitsu. guy anyway uh so just like I told cron I. I I had to get I had to kick somebody. else's ass because I don't like the way. that second fight went it felt horrible. did you ever get over the back injury I. yeah I feel good knock on now knock on.

wood I feel at all anymore there's times. where just like like a couple weeks ago. I felt a little something that ner it. makes me nervous where I'm like I feel. if I do this I don't want you you. remember what it was like when do you. have any back things oh yeah it's worse. it's worse than anything you could think. of than your knees then cuz I have the. new knee put in and this and that the. back is worse cuz you can't do anything. like you can't do anything like you know. what I mean that's why Alain getting his. disc replaced in his neck like oh wow. yeah yeah I mean that is wild that he.

goes on to do that and then dominates p. in the rematch and then you know runs. through. TJ beats Henry and out wrestles Henry he. gets a lot of he gets unwanted hate and. he's such a likeable I don't think. anymore I think the ti start to like him. I think the ties turn especially after. audo fight I mean come on man give the. give the gentleman his D you know I was. in the that night and I was shocked that. it. was I was shocked that it was close I. mean maybe if you w I watched it it like.

I remember just thinking like maybe one. round he lost and I'm usually pretty. very fair in in judgment but you know. yeah judges sometimes you do crazy. sometimes they just get it all [ __ ] up. and it's so dangerous it is it's like it. can change your career one way or the. other it's like I heard a split decision. I'm like not a no not a split not a. split was it a split. I remember hear that I go oh I hope they. don't do this to this [ __ ] kid oh my. God you know that that is people forget.

too they remember who won when you look. at the record books they remember who. won especially if it's close enough it's. close enough you know like the Devon hay. lomachenko fight right Devon Haney is. going to go down forever as being the. guy who won whereas a lot of people saw. that they thought lenko won L yeah so. that's one of those it doesn't matter. forever still one on paper that's all it. counts yeah I remember a fight when they. raised this dude's hand and then they. back stage they changed it well that was. what fight was. that are you serious oh that's right and.

that's why and that's why nothing made. me That's why nothing made me more happy. was at that fight too nothing made me. more happy when he beat GSP because by. MMA math I was the World Champ that's. right that's right how did they do that. what was that colossal [ __ ] up uh. basically one of the judges wrote his. score where he would where my name was. and upside down heuse the excuse that we. look. alike no so all I know is I'm backstage.

going yo man that was a close one right. [ __ ] man I all I know is I'm chasing him. around getting jabbed in the [ __ ]. face I finally get him down and uh so I. mean it was one of those things where. you know I didn't feel like I lost but. listen he won the fight he he he he was. using I I I was I always had that. attitude where I I was going forward so. I felt like I won I was pulling a. [ __ ] Henry shudo I lost the fight all. right you want to hear it. now you C well listen I got the tattoo.

to prove it I really. got I won. yeah right my arm always break his balls. that's awesome that's great oh my God. that's hilarious uh it took uh no so I. was backstage and all of a sudden he's. in the locker room next to me so all a. sudden I hear them so Dana went in his. room I didn't know that first so all a. sudden I hear them all cheering I go wow. I guess it's great to be second place. got on this I'm like they're really. taking this well all a data comes in.

he's like I hate to tell you but uh they. got it wrong and I'm like what I no no. I'm like really you [ __ ] yeah I go have. to pay and everything anyway but you. know it was [ __ ] because like he got. his hand raised I never got my D but you. know they were they they were talking. about trying to get that redone and have. uh buffer announce me as the winner. eventually. like like you mean like still yeah like. still I was like I was like I was like. no I was like N I don't want they should.

do that the next one next one I like. remember 35 years ago I was like no I. don't want to do that that's hilarious. yeah man that's. hilarious I don't have any fight that. I've lost I don't know about you or you. Johnny or you Joe there's any I don't. think there's not one fight that keeps. me up at night and when it nothing and. me Nei I don't know when but when you're. going through it and when you lose. especially when it's fresh I think you. think you're G to feel that forever that. pain right yeah like I don't know I mean.

I maybe it's because I had to see that. shy backfist a million times when they. use that in every [ __ ] promo I guess. that maybe started me off being humble. because this the first backfist ever uh. you did dominate the whole [ __ ] out but. but uh my point is I don't give a [ __ ]. about any of the LW well and that's what. I try to tell Fighters as a coach now I. say listen you got to fight your best. fight because if you lose it's going to. suck but you're not going to care in the. future you want to tell you I'm. something I'm opposed to what's that I'm.

opposed to win bonuses me too I don't. like I don't like it either I don't like. it I don't even know why it even it. doesn't motivate Fighters it doesn't. mate fair I don't think the judging can. be counted on as being 100% accurate I. think it it ruins careers I hate the win. bonus yeah I I just think it's you. know you should be get paid to fight. you're doing your best it's the UFC. right it's the highest level of the. sport these guys are not going to fight. harder if they you know to to win. they're going to fight their hardest.

yeah they always do yeah they're not. going to try to do something extra to. get a win bonus to win they're going to. they're trying to win always like it's. not an incentive it's just it just in in. the case of bad judging it just. penalizes the fighter who did nothing. wrong and it they can maybe Rectify it. backstage with bonuses if they choose to. do that but I don't know how often they. do but it shouldn't be I think it should. be a part of like what you fight for. you're fight you have a contract you're. F that's what I think it should be like. boxing yeah you fight for x amount of.

money and that's what you fight for. that's what you get paid not whether or. not the judges get it right not whether. or not some freak thing happens and you. get injured not you know you know what I. mean it just doesn't make sense to me. yeah I don't understand why they still. have win bonuses because the win bonus. and the commission is separate so like. the fact that if the judges get it wrong. it affects your your money and it's. completely separate. so the UFC should just be like you know. what we're going to just make it right. for the fighters and just say listen. this is what you get paid so it doesn't.

matter if they get it wrong that's I. would feel better about that just period. anyway it just doesn't make any sense to. me yeah it don't make sense to me. neither I don't like it because it's. like these guys are fight I mean. sometimes guys lose they're fighting. their [ __ ] ass like a split decision. is so close my God oh my God some of. just crazy [ __ ] Wars you're like. Jesus Christ and I know they give people. bonus. yeah that's still did you ever see the. fight with uh deir is magalo and Cuda. lad yes and like I I'm sitting there.

watching this fight like I couldn't tell. who won I'm like one guy won the first. round the other guy won the second round. then at the end they were just going. tooth and nail and they were just. fighting their heart out yeah and then. they ended up giving it to um is mallof. and I was like man that sucks for caad. yeah cuz he gets half his money yeah. half is money and it's just a toss up. yeah there's a lot of those fights a lot. of those fight fights I mean they do it. for the incentive but I don't it doesn't. it doesn't incentivize anybody to fight. harder I don't think it does listen when.

you're in there it's you're GNA fight. [ __ ] hard it's your [ __ ] Health at. yeah for sure you don't want to get your. ass kicked dud what do you guys feel. about you know I was having a. conversation with Josh Barnett about. this about uh dehydration and losing. your chin and the dangers of dehydration. then re massive weight Cuts in the age. of no IVs because of usada you can't use. an IV and I mean how much do you think. what how much of an impact is that it's. a giant impact right I think so I.

definitely think so yeah for sure like. I'm not trying to yeah like when these. guys cut too much weight I always think. like they feel like it's going to give. them an advantage but the fact that you. are dehydrating yourself so much it's. actually a disadvantage and does it it. dehydrates it's hard to rehydrate the. brain is that true it takes long they. say I mean I'm not a doctor but you're. not a doctor I thought you went to. chiropractor School. you is that the case does it take longer. to how long does it take to rehydrate.

the brain after severe hydration let's. find that out because I think even with. IV it takes a while yeah but these guys. you see some of them on death's door if. somebody look like that normally and. you're like all right dude you're. fighting tomorrow for your life you know. the worst I ever saw worst I ever saw. was Travis lutter Travis lutter was. fighting Anderson he miss he missed the. weight dude his lips were cracked like. dried out and cracked and he wasn't. walking to the scale he was shuffling to. the scale I mean shuffling and he miss.

weight still I mean he was on death door. and he got that opportunity be from. being on the show with us me and he he. dominated the first round imagine if. that guy goes in there healthy and. finishes him maybe there's no. and Travis lud has got really really. good jiit oh yeah oh yeah he was uh and. he had so much talent but he uh he's. funny some guys maybe are too smart we. were in the house with him and I. remember listen man you know I like to. eat so I'm eating [ __ ] raisins you.

think I want to eat raisins he's eating. M&M's and [ __ ] yeah and now he's the now. he's the [ __ ] smart one right and. he's going I go dude how you you doing. that he's like you you're eating raisin. Sugar Sugar I go n dude I don't think I. go listen I ain't no [ __ ] brain. surger in here but I don't think Sugar's. sugar bro trust me I mean otherwise he's. like sugar Su slower to digest into your. body that's just fact he just tell me. sugar sugar I go I don't with that do. you know who he says is the most.

talented guy he's ever worked with who. Kevin Holland really really Travis lter. says Kevin holl far his students yeah. Kevin Holland's talented as [ __ ] when he. puts it together he's got crazy Power. Man long whip Tommy Hearn style. power when he knocked out Buckley that's. straight right that was. nice from his back he just doesn't seem. like he takes his career serious. I think he does I think he struggles. with like real strong wrestlers you know. I think he struggles with like hamzat.

but then they made that crazy agreement. to just have a kickboxing fight with. Wonder Boy like do you understand what. you're saying like like I know you see. him in MMA when dudes are try to take. him down but if you don't give any. threat to Wonderboy that you're going to. get taken down and Wonderboy gets to do. that karate [ __ ] on you that's a [ __ ]. nightmare that guy moves like a cobra. even at 40 years old or however old he. is now Wonder Boy terrifying he still. kept it competitive too [ __ ] yeah. they're starting to get him down now but. how awesome is one the boy and how.

awesome is his sidekick he I that's such. an underused we I love the goddamn. sidekick I like it defensively. offensively I mean he has the best. sidekick I ever seen in MMA you know. what he slides into it he he he lifts. that leg up and slides in off the back. foot it's total like Point karate style. it's perfect but it's amazing that no. one else uses it like that long time to. develop that it's so it's also you have. to be taught to do it correctly cuz a. lot of guys do it incorrectly and it.

just doesn't have any pop to it so they. can't keep a guy off like Jon Jones does. it correctly it [ __ ] up dude's knees. with that [ __ ] too remember he dropped. vtor to the body with a front leg. sidekick yeah remember that I do. remember that yeah that was after vtor. almost broke his arm right VOR got so. close to tapping J Jones any other human. being other than John probably would. have [ __ ] tapped John's brother one. of his brothers played for the Ravens at. that time and he was at the game the. next day and he was slinged up he was.

slinged up for a long time remember he. supposed to fight cha sunnon and they. went through the the he agreed to do The. Ultimate Fighter because he really. couldn't train so he did that whole. thing with cha sunnon let it heal and. then beat the [ __ ] out of chail and then. broke his. toe down his toe was upside down and he. didn't realize it until I was. interviewing him then he looked down on. his toes like oh. no down and he was kind of going in. shock and he sat down look at his toe. bro his toe was turned upside. down so nasty look at that thing oh my.

God so to this day you know he has to. tape his toes up on that foot and there. was an issue at the last fight see so he. tapes those toes up like that and they. told him to take the stuff off below the. toes that little Piggy's going to the. hospital he was telling them like hey he. was like I can't fight unless I can tape. these toes up which is wild to think. that the literally the goat has a. problem with one of his feet just one. toe yeah his toe he finished be with.

Americana right yes he did yeah and I. remember there was a one of my find that. arm bar find that armar arm bar and then. he finished with an Americana both basic. fundamental stuff I remember one of the. kids at the school was like ah he just a. black belt he gets finished with. Americana I feel like saying dude what. the [ __ ] you you why because you haven't. got caught in Americana in class lately. you're fighting in a cage you [ __ ]. idiot these guys think that. so here it is he gets him down and. people to sleep on TOS Jiu-Jitsu bro.

look at this look how tight this is. that's awesome I mean that is [ __ ]. tight man and it gets extended I mean it. is [ __ ] extended here look at this a. now he's out it's good he's not in that. quick tap Club so he got out let's take. a look at that again let me see that. again is any way we can see the Marana. to it so do it before that cuz when when. he was on the ground initially it was. when it was the deepest so he takes him. down I love it cuz he see and watch the. extension watch the extension like look. at this here look at this here baby that.

is so deep look he got out of it though. he forced it out I wonder if he would. have kept his heels well you hindsight. who knows man I mean it was tight it was. tight as [ __ ] and then here is now he's. out now he's got the elbow out but and. then you know Jon starts [ __ ] him up. yeah and there's a s kick to the body so. he hits him with that oh and he just. drops him boom. yeah and that sidekick to the knee is so. good man it's so nasty he cut right.

through his guard oh right through like. butter there you go there's that. crucifix position again well John's a. much bigger guy too vtor really is a. there it is VOR really is you know much. better suited framewise to the 185 pound. division it's it's funny that whole trt. he took that fight on short notice too. right yeah did that was a fight where he. was was fighting at 85 yeah speaking of. trt I have a question I don't know if. any of you know the answer too Conor's. supposed to be coming back to fight. Chandler maybe it's not happening why if.

a fighter is out of the testing pool. does he have to wait six months cuz they. have to make sure that you're not it's. really not clean for a month or two. months that's not enough why is the. number the thing it's like it's in your. face it's in your face why this is. happening this is in your face it's in. your face and we're letting it slide. because he's got an injury that he has. to recover from right agreed everybody. there's no other reason why you wouldn't. be unless it's cocaine right unless it's. unless you know unless there's something.

else you're worried about getting. testing positive for which they do test. which is kind of wild right kind of wild. that they do they test for that like. that ain't helping nobody right unless. you're Aaron prior remember that oh. yeah they gave him Coke in the corner. yeah rest. inace yeah the one yeah yeah Panama. Lewis I used to train with that guy did. you really yeah was this before or after. Lou Resto fighto fight poor guy's face. yeah he was coaching Louis Resto and he.

took all the padding out of the gloves. and he was fighting what's the kid's. name Billy Costello Jr remember W that. kid forever he wrecked his fate and then. the kid wind up committing suicide and. they wouldn't they wouldn't let Panama. work anymore they would let him get a. license oh is that the guy with the. putting the plaster in the thing or is. that something different no no no that. was different now you're talking about. Margarita Margarita Billy Collins yeah. so it's Billy Collins versus Lou Resto. so Billy Collins was this upand. cominging real promising young kid and.

Louis Resto was not like a big puncher. that's why it was so crazy that he was. busting him up and Lou Resto has no. padding in his gloves so when every time. he's hitting him he's just hitting him. with bare knuckle original bare knuckle. taped bare Knuckles too and Billy. Collins is so confused I mean he was. getting battered in that. fight and he was s and his his look at. his head his head's all lumped up look. at his face and what happened to this. kid he lost his vision his vision was. [ __ ] up and he wound up becoming an. alcoholic and I think he he died by.

suicide in a car. accident that's sad man yeah I mean look. at his face I mean his face is like. unbelievably swollen and everyone was. really confused because Lou Resto was. not that big of a puncher and then his. dad went over after the fight and. grabbed Lou's gloves and and he felt the. gloves and he felt the knuckle straight. through the glove and he knew there was. no padding in there see his dad right. there is grabbing him. see see that see he's grabbing the. gloves like wait a minute look at that. he's like look he's got no padding in. his gloves pushing straight through yo.

horrible [ __ ] that's so evil that's so. evil you should see that guy's face a. couple days later yeah so yeah his eyes. were swollen up I mean he want to bling. his vision s Panama Lewis there he goes. right there with the red shirt dirt bag. Panama Lewis wound up getting kicked out. but he did work with Tyson like is like. a sort of like non Corner man role back. in the day well I mean he used to just. hang out in the gyms yeah yeah so like. that was what he before he passed away. just hung out in the gyms his dad's over. in their Corner that's so evil that's.

soil I still think that boxing is a way. tougher sport for you than as far as. your health than MMA I do 100% yeah I. think so too yeah it's hard man just a. head trauma yeah it's you know I mean. these guys they Spar hard too they Spar. hard know you watch some of the javante. Davis sparring sessions oh my God he's. going to war yeah he's going to war and. Spar or like like at Mayweathers I heard. they would just do like these sparring. sessions where they don't put time on. they just like guys just go at it they.

jump them into the gym basically Jesus. yeah I. mean look at. this dvon Davis is such a weird Talent. so different than any other boxer in. terms of like the economy like that's. throw so few punches and everyone he. hits you with is so dangerous count but. it's so interesting to watch him in the. beginning of fights where guys like try. to get a lead on him and he's just kind. of measuring you up measuring you up and.

you're trying real hard to beat him and. he's just kind of measuring you up. measuring you up just bang and the. movement God damn he closes that. distance so fast and throws that that. left uppercut is so. ferocious his his straight left the the. one that he knocked down Davis with the. first one yeah oh my God. damn yeah or Garcia Ryan Garcia rather. the one he knocked down Ryan Garcia with. that first left hand he dropped him with. and then the one to the body dude he's.

so talented he's so good [ __ ] man such a. good time for boxing you know it is like. right now like boxing is probably just. what we thought just every time we think. boxing's on this last leg man they they. put together a big fight to keep it. alive I mean I do believe him and Garcia. being like finally two guys in their. Prime out of having a big fight now. you're seeing Crawford and Spence going. at it that's one I never I thought. they'd fight like Pacquiao maywether. thought that was never going to happen. it be too late I think they're starting. a jump start at them now hey let's start.

fighting each other well that is such a. big fight too I mean that's going to get. over the casuals everybody's going to. want to see that fight that's a big I. got Shout Out Tank Baltimore tanks from. Baltimore World Champ got on his back he. literally Baltimore on his back yeah. [ __ ] man I can't watch anything but MMA. though I I try yeah he know John knows. I've been at John's Place I I I do. seminar at his place and the next day is. the Super Bowl I don't even know who the. [ __ ] in it he's like want some pizza.

give me pizza you got any video games. around here right that's hilarious he's. a movie buff movie got mov movies you. know when I back at the hotel I brought. my Oculus Quest I bring it with me. everywhere yeah really I bring with me. to Vegas I bring I I love population one. you ever what that oh it's a look at you. go I love it it's a [ __ ] it's like a. it's a it's a shooter so it's like with. me and I got a squat of three oh.

population you got so excited I love. this I live in here I [ __ ] live in. here are you serious oh it's fun no Joe. it's F it's fun is it approaching but. it's fun so you're playing this first. person oh my God this is amazing it is. so much fun dude it's like uh there it. now it's free so you got a bunch of like. new kids in there but it's like a lot of. adults play I play with my. brother-in-law Edwin and we [ __ ] you. know who else I play with King Casey. really Casey ke Kevin yeah I haven't.

played with him in a little bit but I. played with him on that there's another. super talented also you know what's so. funny I was in here the other day I saw. Fowler. BJJ and they go hey Mike I go you Mike. he goes wait Sarah that's you so it's. Mike F he Saidi so I play with Mike. Fowler he's in Hawaii so me and Mike are. playing and ND we are I uh oh yeah you. got to see my wife comes every time I'm. playing she'll [ __ ] I'll be in there. I'll be like I'm going to snipe my wife.

comes and she hits my [ __ ] balls. [ __ ] you know I just like she goes. you don't she goes you think you're. getting some. later a Hall of Famer we were talking. about like to we were talking about it. earlier with him in the video games like. I'm talking way back in the day like n. here I am. I upgraded since then magga grappling me. in my living room what are you doing. here well that's what I'm.

climbing the vi the vibe this is not. nearly as fun now I got my my hey I'm. flying now I'm. flying there I am oh my God but it's. listen I know it looks really special no. we have those you know what's great the. [ __ ] Shadow Boxing game the boxing. hard it's good it's hard it's good work. too you wear it's the future man I. [ __ ] can't wait my one of my favorite. movies is ready play a one and I listen. to audio book a little too it's a great.

[ __ ] movie it's a great it's a good. movie for your kids if your kids oh. Jamie I want to before I forget uh they. got a Taekwondo version of this now so. they're doing kicks now wow yeah they. figured out how to put there was there. something see if you could find it there. was something they just demonstrated so. they put these leg things on people and. a guy and a girl were having like a. sparing ma virtually so like bowed to. each other shook hands and they went to. the opposite side of the room and they. put their headgear on and they started. having this like taekwondo match.

way I'm thinking like as this gets more. sophisticated they could do a Muay Thai. version I mean you really couldn't do a. Jiu-Jitsu version obviously but I think. you could do a Muay Thai version when it. gets better I think dude I mean I mean. listen I I like that my even though I. got a new battery pack I can go longer. but I like that it wears off I like that. it I like that it wears all there it is. this isn't new though this is well I. mean I just saw it I I saw just oh it's. from 2021 did but see if you can find a. video of it cuz the video I just saw.

yesterday for the first time that I. think that's it right there it's fun man. I mean it's so much fun I just oh is. there somebody watching it so here it is. yeah I mean so these people were like. yeah here it is so see they got like. sensors on their legs and their their. shins and stuff like that you know I. used to be a regular cuz you know the. Call of Duty and the uh Halo I used to. play that kind of stuff but this would. really be good like training practice. better than Shadow Boxing for sure.

because you could do the same kind of. stuff that you could do with Shadow. Boxing but you could do it against an. opponent with no consequences it's not. good to develop defense but in terms of. developing technique it it sounds like a. really [ __ ] good idea it's cardio. workout too oh you can get a workout. with that my wife went through a couple. of them she used to do the the boxing. one with the the workout when you're. punching the you're punching the balls. type of [ __ ] and she she had to go she. went through two [ __ ] headsets and. got drenched it seems like you could. take some things if you want to do Muay.

Thai where you put on like some things. that just go down the side of your leg. and go and it attaches to your ankle it. attaches to where your knee is so it. knows where your knees are going and it. knows where your ankles are going it. knows where you're getting hit but then. you'd have to do it too for your elbows. too if you st elbows yeah you'd have to. do it on your elbows and you know maybe. you could even your oh they're getting. ready for MMA oh my god oh interesting. this guy's got a giant. look at wearing that's not really so. weird point but it's also it's like you. need a at least a dummy down there you.

know you'd want to do that with a dummy. but you know you don't you res you'll be. seeing guess yeah but you want to feel. it right you you you're just doing this. to the air it's kind of weird yeah it. might be weird but the Striking in the. air is legit I think that could you. really could learn some [ __ ] from that I. didn't play the Creed one they got some. stuff but as far as Shooters the. population one I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to them he you [ __ ] don't. try to put me in a locker you [ __ ]. dude I used to have a real addiction to.

Quake I used I heard you say that what. is Quake Quake is an online yeah very. similar first person shooter you're. running around shooting rockets at. people it's too addictive was the Halo. King back in the day travel with that. play I did but once I did this one time. I started with the Vive and then now the. I I can't talk to you guys people here. are listening they want to know about. this listen it keeps me out of trouble. okay I bring it with me everywhere I put. it in my carry on and it's so much.

[ __ ] fun I can't go back to regular. video games after doing the Oculus Quest. it's because it's very uh immersive well. that's why I don't do it because I have. one too and I used to play the little. zombie game and I mean it was too fun so. I was like I can't listen man I get some. dopamine man I'm like [ __ ] yelling. the worst was during the like [ __ ] my. kids were doing the zoom right and they. were at home doing it now they're. homeschooled still all all it was bad.

they were on there and I'm like I don't. [ __ ] see. him like I don't [ __ ] see him where. is he my wife comes in like they hear. you they hear you I'm like oh my God I'm. like sorry oh my God you know but uh it. is it it is a lot of fun imagine being. that. teacher shot. shoot be sending people to my house yeah. no but it's it's it's just listen good.

clean fun back in the day people would. probably get the same kind of thrill. doing I mean listen I'm not [ __ ] on. paintball and [ __ ] like that but dude I. get my adrenaline up with this [ __ ] all. right let's switch the subject I. everybody just [ __ ] say wow he had us. something let me let me ask you guys. what do you think about this uh upcoming. Yer Rodriguez volkanovski fight that's. list wild you know obviously vulcanos is. gonna be the big favorite he's the big. favorite but yaer got that danger Factor. man like a couple body kicks he a wild.

slow down volovski and it comes from. everywhere but it's hard to go against. volkanovski just because of what this. guy I mean he I thought he beat Islam. too and Max I thought would retire at. that weight class and he beat him three. times not once last time was very it. that's what made me a True Believer the. third one the last one I mean he just. keeps getting better yeah I mean that's. what you saw in the Islam fight too he. just keeps getting better he's not even. in his prime I mean he's in his prime. but I don't think he's at his full. potential yet I was there live the.

second Max fight and I remember thinking. Max won and I thought I thought he won. close but since then I feel he's he's up. his level yeah he's got better he's. pulled away he's pulled away and you. know but yayer Rodriguez is one of the. most exciting guys he does wild [ __ ] man. he does that crazy elbow oh everything. with the Korean zombie it's just so hard. to deal with those kicks and he keeps. getting better when when he submitted. Josh in that last fight I was like wow. yeah he looked amazing wow he looked so.

good on the feet too even before that. it's hard to but ultimately I think that. volkanovski I think his ground and pound. is underrated underrated it's underrated. it's phenomenal everything he does is. phenomenal he's underrated to he does I. mean I think he still should be the. pound-for-pound best because if you look. at it I mean he did go up a weight class. and arguably in many people's eyes. should have got the nod. but at the very least it was as close to. a draw as you're going to get in like a. world championship fight and then you.

know he went up he went up in weight. isn't that what pound-for-pound is all. about 100% so I feel like you know I. mean it was an amazing fight all around. but I feel like that's the pound for I'm. wondering if his performance against. Islam will make other Fighters now don't. he's not so Invincible anymore perhaps. so maybe you don't go in with that. mystique and and May maybe somebody else. goes in there and shows that dud that. squeeze is out of this sometimes those. smaller guys are harder to finish than.

even bigger stop trying to take up for. short people I'm telling. you I remember the first time you. defending I remember the first time you. walked into the academy like the [ __ ]. Creature from the deep and I'm going to. henzo put me with. him my first day he pulled you off. teaching so you could help me with my. private that was my and at the old. karate school and we've been buddies. ever since 100% 100% it's my man it's. [ __ ] great that was at 25th Street a.

yes yeah let me see the rest of that. card Jamie who else is on Pantoja is. fighting uh Brandon Moreno that's an. awesome fight but Whitaker and dupy. that's interesting I thought they were. going to go straight dupy to Izzy. considering that you know Izzy beat. Robert Whitaker twice couple times and. then you know dupy and him have a. problem with each other Battle of Africa. yeah yeah that's they should have made. that fight and that's the uh I thought. they would have yeah it was interesting.

but I get it if you can get past. Whitaker godd damn Whitaker's good. Whitaker is very good he's I think he's. something like 12 and0 as a middleweight. against anybody not named at yeah. somebody wrote that turner He's a stud. too yeah Jaylen Turner is gonna beat up. Dan hooker I'm sorry I think so too. jayen Turner is coming into his own n. always led to see the wrestlers out. there. yeah he's he's a special talent yeah Bo. Nicko fighting another black guy who. can't. wrestle gota build gotta build him up.

you got to build him up do you know the. guy's fighting do you know the guy's. fighting I don't know oh first of all is. he is this his uh first time in the UFC. no he's um he was on a contender series. I think I mean in in defense of B he's. he's new you know what I mean you can't. just throw him to the dogs right away. and you'll see I think another kid out. of Penn State Roman Bravo young yeah. he's He he'll wind up checking in the I. think T shanur was on on The Ultimate. Fighter I think go back to that um that. that uh I'm sorry the uh the rest of the.

card. again Robbie Lawler Robie that's a fun. fight right there Robbie Lawler and oh. how about this one Shawn Brady and Jack. Dela Melina that's a crazy fight that. Dela Melina guy is a [ __ ] dude. he mixes it up so well to the body like. his his shots the body and the head like. he's so good at like digging under and. creating opportunities he's a nasty. Striker yeah I've been I've been working. with sea a little bit I've been going.

out to Philly working with sea oh have. you yeah he's good Shawn Brady really. good he's very good he only has the one. loss right to uh mam to Bal and you know. balal is on a roll right now I mean. bal's really coming into his own he's. such a nice guy Bal he's a great guy he. wouldn't even swear he would say what. the fudge like on the podast on the. podcast what the fudge he wouldn't swear. no he doesn't swear damn go back to the. rest of the card the way we all should. be you guys are going to owe Dan hooker. an apology if he wins I will I will no.

no no I will If he if he wins gonna owe. Dan hooker an apology if he wins go go. back to the main. card oh Jaylen Turner Dan hooker very. Dan hooker is one of those guys that was. so close right like think about like. when he had that fight with Dustin. porier yeah down to the wire down to the. wire. I mean close I don't want to take. anything away from him but I think jayen. Turner especially after losing his last. fight I think that taught him a.

lotan yeah who did he lose to in his. last fight um Matos gamr and he had him. in trouble he had him in trouble you. know what I'm saying scam Rod's a. [ __ ] what I'm game that guy is. game you know has a win over Jaylen is. uh Matt theme roll of AO oh he does he. not just giving him a shout out cuz he's. all guy he's [ __ ] he's an exciting. [ __ ] J Christ Matty's so. exciting and uh he's one of those guys. that I mean every one of his fights is. is [ __ ] amaz his fight versus the.

tantula was how about the Dober knockout. yeah I mean I probably should give him. apology for him knocking out Dober cuz I. didn't think that was going to happen. bro he's no joke listen he's got the. balls to pull the trigger yeah he's very. he's very G and he's very powerful yeah. and uh he's another sweetheart of a guy. great guy great guy he knew my friend. Dave Dolan we had a mutual friend who. was like the funniest guy I ever met in. my life he was my boss at one point in. time I was a private investigator's. assistant when I was 21 and uh really it.

was my friend Dave lost his driver's. license drinking and driveing he needed. someone to drive him so I I I drove with. him until he got his driver's license. back so I'd have to pick him up and take. him to like people's houses when they. were doing insurance fraud and [ __ ] it. was mostly like in in he was a private. investigator investigating like you know. mostly mostly fraud but occasionally. there was some like Who's Cheating On. the guy and you know that kind of stuff. so we uh I I met this guy Dave Dolan. who's like the [ __ ] funniest guy I've.

ever met in my life who never wanted to. do standup comedy and he told me about. this Matt fola guy he goes you got to. look out for my boy Matt frola he's a. [ __ ] goer and I remember first time I. met frola we talked about this guy that. he want up dying oh no yeah sad sad but. uh but [ __ ] amazing person just like. there's some dudes you know how like. there's some dudes in the early days of. uh you know training were like they're. so talented like this guy could be a. world champion and then they just drift.

off that was that dude was so [ __ ]. funny like when drifted off huh just. never wanted to do comedy and his cousin. owned the comedy Connection in Boston it. was. crazy what the funniest people I've ever. met in my life have it yeah you get. that's that's the talent without [ __ ]. what do they say that wasted Talent is. [ __ ] there's a saying somewhere with. that there's nothing worse than wasted. talent I don't know it's like that with. fighting too though man the guys might.

have the skills but they don't got the. [ __ ] dedication or else you know it. doesn't happen overnight either some. guys say F I'll get a real job and we. were talking about that last night how. you have so many of these guys in the. gym that are straight up Killers like. beating guys you see on TV but when you. put the lights on yep it it's it's tough. gym fight as Academy fight is they. there's also guys that get like one. injury and they never recover from it. one thing goes wrong and they just never. never snap back you know there's like. certain things that just compromise your. Movement Like a neck thing or a back.

thing they get it operated on they're. never the same like Kane's a good. example that right like Cain Velasquez. his body just started failing on him. shoulders started going knees started. going remember he was always injured. yeah King Mo that happened to King Mo. too King Mo was a killer killer killer. and as soon as he started getting. injured like his knees went and remember. he knocked out hoder yeah kn he knocked. out Yuri yeah proska yeah is is Kane. going to be is he out of trouble with. all that stuff or I'm sure California.

who knows I felt so bad for the whole. thing is so evil that the guy who did. that was out on the street that's. everything sometimes just the the world. just seems backwards lately with a lot. of things you know you think of stuff. like that it's nice to see Kane coaching. and I know in AKA yeah I mean I don't. know what the legal status is but it's a. horrible horrible horrible [ __ ] story. yeah you can't blame him at all no it's. every what every father says they would. do every father says they would do that. he just went out and actually [ __ ].

did it and he lost his mind and he's. such a softspoken guy like you know you. know what I'm saying he the nicest. [ __ ] guy other than that yeah you. know yeah when he was in his prime dude. before he was injured God damn he was a. force of nature man the beat down he put. on. JDS the cardio he had for heavy. and for a guy with a wrestler base his. standup was legit you know what I mean. and no wasted motion it wasn't like big. Haymaker punches everything was clean.

and crisp and coming in combinations. when he knocked out minaro bing bing. bing bing bing bing bing like wo Kane. Velasquez in his prime was a. [ __ ] that's like one of the. great missed opportunities Kane in his. Prime versus Fedor in his prime cuz they. were real close it was it was real close. it was real close show up everywhere is. that did that guy yet who Fedor I don't. know if he did I think he fought again. recently right I think he did I think he. won his last one he lost again Jes he. definitely lost what is wrong was it was.

it with Bader he keep yeah I think I. think you're right Bader koed him and. then Bader did Bader just beat him again. I think beat him again I think he beat. him again I I don't yeah I mean it's. what's he keep running out there for. he's got nothing to prove I think maybe. he likes it I think some guys having a. trouble transition into the other part. of their life TKO 230. round you just don't you know thank God. I left the sport my chin some guys they. leave that sport they leave the chin in.

there with him you know you can only get. I mean look at what happened to your jaw. that one tough man fight now imagine the. fights that fedors have imagine those. crocop fights imagine crocop danging you. in the chin over and over again imagine. all all those fights he had man button. gets pushed but I tell you what though. when Fedor was in his prime I was with. Jeff mson in Russia when Fedor fought. him and I remember Jeff mson walking out. that tunnel and it looked like a man who. was walking to his execution oh my God. and he beat the hell out of Jeff mson he.

broke his femur oh Jesus yeah it was it. was the worst yeah it was the worst. beating I've ever seen a human being. take oh let me see that that's pretty. crazy oh my God he beat the out of beat. the hell Jeff couldn't walk after he. beat the hell out of Jeff buson oh I. remember that I remember being horrific. I didn't know he broke his femur though. this is Fedor in his prime man and what. was this for what organization was this. for it was like a weird om1 yeah so this.

was right around the time where they. were negotiating with Fedor to come to. the. UFC cuz Fedor and his Representatives. met with the UFC at one point in time. and like many points at time and there. was like some real Pro like you know. heated discussions and it became a bit. of an issue like this is Fedor in his. prime God damnn he look good how tough. is mson though he just eats it he. shooting and pulling guard yeah I mean.

his mson still doing it feder just te on. him he lives in Russia now right oh my. God godamn mson could take a shot I mean. look he's built like a tank but real but. the [ __ ] shots he's eating from. arguably the heavyweight goat oh man I. mean other than J Jones I would have. loved to see Fedor versus Jon Jones but. other than Jon Jones imagine if Fedor. fought 205 where he belonged this guy. was F weights sh no [ __ ] right I don't. think he believes in cutting too much.

yeah well I think that probably also led. to his durability yeah you know upated. healthy Fedor was crazy. durable I mean when he walked down. crocop in that fight I was like this is. crazy like this guy is you know you've. known him as a [ __ ] guy and here he is. he's walking down one of the greatest. kickboxers that's ever competed in MMA. that's how talented that guy was got a. little belly too oh yeah always had a.

belly had the dad bod going always had. that body I mean never was ripped. ever crazy gu didn't matter a little bit. either what he looked like he was a bad. [ __ ] dude those minaro fights we. sto minaro those are horrific Jes he got. his half guard minaro was really you. know crushing just dropping bombs on. minaro you're like oh my God what about. he hit orlovski out of the air. or tried to. fly slept him in [ __ ] up about that.

orovi was winning winning he was doing. good he got everybody forgets how good. orlovski was in his prime dude Freddy. roach said he could have been a very. good professional boxer if he had a chin. well remember when uh when F here it is. ready remember when Fedor knocked out. Tim Sylvia too that was what was that. for that was Affliction Affliction yeah. yeah I think this is Affliction too yeah. look the logon on the ground yeah when. Ray Mercer knocked out Tim silia you. remember.

that Arlovski was dangerous man look at. this and he got crazy here boom. fly that's a laces out moment couldn't. take the. shot crazy because he was winning that. fight up until that moment 100% I mean. who knows what could have happened if he. had kept that going he just C I mean he. ran right into it too it's crazy. power in that I wonder how much [ __ ]. nare he uses he fought back in the day. when I was fighting and Orosi had a. [ __ ] straight sweater and now I look.

at him now I'm like where's the werewolf. I he F how does he get rid of that there. was one other dude who fought in the UFC. that on one time he had all the hair he. put left all his hair on his body so God. damn it he was a heavyweight I forget. his name but it was crazy and what he do. he had hair everywhere like all over his. body like his back and everything holy. yeah that's one dude but that's not the. dude I for the dude was a heavyweight I. a Russian Amic American guy I forget his. name no no no no.

no that's Gabriel Gonzaga Gonzaga pretty. [ __ ] hairy too that's the dude oh man. yeah dude I ripped that [ __ ] off and. blow his face godam I forget his name I. apologize that's a lot of [ __ ] he fought. Stephan stru go to Stefan stru go to. Stephan tru's uh Wikipedia find out who. it is but dude had crazy hair like. ridiculous like like look like a. caveman yeah you got to manscape that. [ __ ] or not you.

like very intimidating yeah you looking. at a dude who looks like he's like. that's like a lion man you know what I'm. saying like dude Shawn Alvarez he looked. like he was wearing a sweater good as. that guy's built I mean he kept it shave. but if he let that [ __ ] go it was going. to be a werewolf in the house the. scariest [ __ ] to me is hary Russians. yeah man see har they're just built. different they're stronger than most. humans so here it is let's. see. um what this is quite a while ago back. up a little bit back up I'm back I don't.

know way go keep going down go down. because that's older no down this is not. the UFC though oh it's not the UFC when. does he start starts that's where it was. right where we start UFC Chase I don't. know um let's go up Dave Herman that's. it it's Dave Herman yeah so go now look. up Dave Herman so the there you see them. all shaved look looks like [ __ ] like. an Adonis right go now look Google Dave. Herman hay back oh boy is that crazy.

like that dude when he shaved it all he. looked fantastic like a male model but. when he let it all grow out only one. time I think he did it and it was like. what the [ __ ] dude yeah yeah look at him. holy yeah like a. wolf crazy damn yeah it looks like. completely different dude I know make. that picture bigger Jamie that that. picture. that shit's ridiculous look that's a. hairy [ __ ] holy [ __ ] man that's. a God was the dude that said Jiu-Jitsu. didn't work yeah that's him and then he.

got oh is that right yeah I think he was. [ __ ] around yeah playing the old Mind. Games yeah the old mind game but that. one is a mind game for a guy like you. who probably pisses you the [ __ ] off. right when they say that yeah Jiu-Jitsu. doesn't work oh yeah I'm glad he got arm. locked did he get arm locked yeah he did. I know he got submitted in that fight. hate those shirts oh if [ __ ] was easy. it'd be jiujitsu shut the [ __ ] up with. that ask one FC when all the world [ __ ]. Champs are coming and fighting the.

Jiu-Jitsu Champs and it's not going the. [ __ ] Champs way at all in onefc right. yeah meing matching yeah yeah you know. but like for MMA though a lot of people. make the argument that that combat [ __ ]. style is probably even better with. striking cuz it's so much you the. problem is is that Jiu-Jitsu is like now. with tawan was back in the day and it. just like went in this different. direction so now it it kind of went away. from where we are in MMA a competition.

direction right a competition Direction. even someone who just does a competition. Jiu-Jitsu he say they never did any kind. of distance management and stuff like. that they'll still strangle the [ __ ] out. of your average people like and they'll. still be able to defend themselves it's. still better than the majority of. [ __ ] other Arts out there and it. really depends on which kind of. competitors you're talking about cuz if. you're talking about Mikey musi like. that little [ __ ] is an assassin. like he's he's coming to close the show. on you he's not trying to win on points. that dude is always trying to close the.

show he's a spooky kid cuz you're never. going to catch up he's like man of. Jiu-Jitsu 100% training 12 hours a day. every [ __ ] day and only eating once. he's eating pizzas and pasta amazing. it's amazing now they see that thing. with the [ __ ] and them saying that it's. better for um uh combat sport mixed. martial arts and stuff when you look at. the the Arts as a whole you know the. wrestling they could say the same thing. for wrestling wrestling but what if you.

meet a bigger wrestler like in other. words you think about Jiu-Jitsu is the. self-defense aspect of it where what. about the defense all right yeah like. this fights were of like Carol for. instance man I had nothing in a tank. nothing I was so shot I got to show a. nice [ __ ] arm loock Escape I got to. show a nice I don't know if they have. similar defense and escapes when I had. zero in the tank I made it to the I. ended up on top of him with an escape. and I'm talking about nothing in the. tank so Jiu-Jitsu served me not only as.

the hammer but when I was being the. [ __ ] nail and it stopped me from ever. having to say uncle in there where if I. didn't have the the defensive part of. Jiu-Jitsu of um the the technique not. just the offensive part you know I would. have been [ __ ] I would have tapped can. I ask you something right now are you. rolling right now oh 100% what are you. doing with those claws look at. funny you know what's funny about that I. saw that [ __ ] this morning and I was.

going to uh get this go look for a nail. CLI how do you let him get that long it. it grows quick man I'll never forget I. was with uh I was with uh Bruce Buffer. in Hawaii and and he goes I was asking. was he's a little bit older Bruce Buffer. and he was saying oh well like I think. he said he was talking about the hair. like cuz I I do that too a lot I'm. always [ __ ] trimming the nose hair. and the [ __ ] ear hair as you get. older [ __ ] just comes out so yeah what. you talking about their [ __ ]. fingernails they grow normal speed so.

what the [ __ ] you want for me you have. an extra Clipper why want to go to a. [ __ ] salon now I us always think up. the nearest a lot I'm DJ pen always had. some claws tooo you rolling with those. did he really yeah man I normally am. better than this but you know that is. true they are kind of I got an infection. one some dudes pulling my hooks out I. haven't clawed anybody recently. accidentally clawed me and it got. infected oh so now you probably have a. now you probably have a have a nail. phobia you have like a uh in radar with.

that [ __ ] you see the [ __ ] Nails you. probably like stay away that that was. another crazy thing about the henzo gym. was all the [ __ ] staff so much staff. came out of that yeah so much staff came. out of that place why that's due to the. people man they got to just take yeah. right wash yourself take a shower clean. your CLE your gear whenever shit's going. down like that cuz I watch my mats after. every session when this stuff going on I. go hey man you guys I see people leaving. this place without showering now I'm not. following you home but you better. [ __ ] shower when you get home or El.

you should shower right away you should. shower there we we we try to like talk. them into like look try to defense soap. do you use I have defense soap defense. soap is [ __ ] I haven't had a skin thing. for a while knock on wood do you take a. acidophilus or any probiotics or. something like that that's supposed to. help say it again acidophilus prob. biotics any kind of probiotics. noal mozzarella. well fermented things like fermented.

sauerkraut kimchi it's all probiotics. yeah I mean the only thing I have is I. drink the K kombucha oh that's good. that's I like that that's for you that's. very good for you that's the same kind. of thing I thought that would cure any. of my stomach trouble but uh no I have a. feeling if you tried carnivore diet it. probably help you a lot I know it'd be. hard for you with that obsession with. Italian food but if youed it yeah but he. likes a lot of meat too all meat yeah I. could eat meat all we ate last night we. killed it Where'd you guys go just hit. uh fog CH you and I have been at about.

18 F I think so I think so that's the. spot man all you can eat and they coming. by with meat let's [ __ ] go literally. right next door to the hotel so you. couldn't go wrong and you start eating. the moment you sit down there's no. waiting let's go the second she have you. been here before she even finished a. sentence we turn that [ __ ] over to Green. last we were last people at they were. cleaning putting chairs up we're still. there I love I love those places man oh. yeah Brazilian steakhouses the [ __ ] I.

wonder if that if the the Brazilian. steakhouses took a hit after the movie. Bridesmaids did you ever see bridesmaid. what a hilarious it's pretty funny there. was a there was a a part when for the. the the shower the the girl shower or. something they uh things getting married. dress dress fitting she goes oh let's go. to this Brazilian place oh good call. next thing you know who's Melissa who's. thethy she's [ __ ] hysterical yes she. they run into the [ __ ] thing she one. of them goes into the [ __ ] soit right.

she goes in the sink she one of them is. throwing up in the ball the other girl. puts her ass in the sink she's [ __ ]. in the sink and she's like look away. look away it was [ __ ] great but ever. since then man uh I wonder if they took. a hit with that cuz I always remember. that [ __ ] scene it's disgusting some. bad meat but uh I do like I like that. Fogo F place that is good I hadn't been. there in a minute so it was good to go. you know where most people get a food. poisoning from salad salad that's why we.

don't eat it you make fun of me make. sure that's true no rabbit food I read. that once it might be [ __ ] let's. make sure it's true I'm allergic to. someone told me it's like people that. don't wash their hands where they're. handling salad yeah and you know you get. bacteria I mean think about it I mean. it's not cooked I mean especially if. you're not cleaning the leaves yeah some. someone told me that that's a think. Sal's [ __ ] disgusting I just don't. like I'm I'm not a. good I used to eat broccoli when I was. getting the 155 fresh salads are another. top source of food poisoning but.

pinpointing the cause can be tricky some. outbreaks are tied to a specific kind of. greens often Romain lettuce and spinach. or to certain Growers or Packers. salmonella or other bacteria can be. traced to dirty irrigation water soil or. human hands yeah a lot of people get. that [ __ ] see but I think they get it. from a lot of other things why you don't. eat rabbit food but then again you know. how many people get Sal vanilla from. eggs I did not know this it was Moby was. talking about it cuz you know mob's a. crazy vegan and he was you know talking. about how you shouldn't eat eggs and egg. eggs are like the most Karma free food.

if you get pasture raised eggs those. chickens are just eating bugs and grass. and then they lay their eggs and long as. there's no rooster that's never going to. be a chick it's just food actually. learned that here I didn't know that. they just laid eggs for I didn't know. until I had them I felt so stupid I was. 40 I was like this is how dumb I am I. think every one of those I'm like how. could it I'm like what Jesus Christ I. know biology in my mind an egg leads to. they laid the egg it must be there's a. chicken there no no it's just eggs they. lay eggs every day they do yeah when you.

have healthy chickens especially when. they're young they lay eggs almost every. day I don't even need [ __ ] egg what. yeah I had 19 chickens at one point in. time oh I eating fresh eggs every day. amazing I need to get some chickens yeah. I'm telling you it's great I did not. know that they just you know you give. them chicken feed but they also they eat. worms and they they eat the [ __ ] [ __ ]. out of mice if they catch a mouse they. will [ __ ] that Mouse up oh my God crazy. you've never seen it okay we showed many. people unfortunately if you're watching. this at home you're going to have to.

watch it again watch a a cat watch a cat. is playing with this mouse and the cat. is just letting them M and the chicken. runs over give me that [ __ ] and steals. the [ __ ] Mouse from the cat and the. chicken [ __ ] that Mouse up watch this. so the cat's playing with it and the. chicken's observing he's like [ __ ] you. ain't even doing nothing so the. chicken's like give me that and just. steals it from him damn e [ __ ] up that. Mouse yeah they eat them man they eat. them did they eat them. ferociously we had a mouse in the our.

chicken CPE and one one chicken ran off. with it and the other ones are chasing. her and trying to steal it from her. mouth yeah they're saw a video of a deer. eating a snake or it was something like. one of those type deers eat they eat. birds all the time ground nesting I get. my education on here heard that on here. as well I was like what yeah yeah eat is. there it is what yeah they'll eat snakes. they'll also uh eat ground nesting Birds. they'll find birds that can't move good. and they'll eat them they they cows do.

that too sometimes there's videos of. cows eating birds but uh there was this. bird net that they used to trap uh birds. like a specific kind of birds look at. that he's eating a. bird that [ __ ] deer's just straight. up eating a bird I know bambies I. thought they just ate goddamn leaves. most of the time they do most of the. time they do but if they have an. opportunity to eat a little birdie they. get a chance chew that [ __ ] down. survival the fitt us out there my. father-in-law C oh man he makes the best. he's he's he's a hunter he makes me some.

uh the de meat the venison yeah it's my. favorite it's my [ __ ] favorite oh so. delicious he makes it like a it looks. just like a ve cutlet like he breeds it. and it is so people said I I heard. people say that it's like gy or. something you got to know how to. prepare it's it's also uh how you the. animal in the field if like a lot of. times people don't know what they're. doing they'll get the glands like. there's tarsel glands that are on these. deer especially when they're ruting. which which is when you're hunting them.

so they they they're emitting scent from. their glands and if you get that scent. on the meat it'll [ __ ] the meat up I. don't know what he does it's like a fear. right when they get scared no no no it's. their it's like their hormones like. they're they're letting out scent for. other deer they're trying to [ __ ]. they're trying to [ __ ] and they're. trying to fight so they're they're. putting out this and their their glands. a lot of times people accidentally cut. their glands when they're butchering the. animal and that [ __ ] will get on the. meat and also if you don't immediately. cool the meat down that's very important. like right after you kill the animal you.

have to butcher it and cool that meat. down that meat can't sour you don't want. it outside being exposed to the heat you. want it a cool dry place you want to get. it on ice as quickly as possible well. however he did it he did it like that. obviously he knows what he's doing it's. [ __ ] delicious man do you like it do. you like the me yeah I love it I love. meat it's I think it's my favorite meat. I it's so good it's so rich in protein. too it's very very good oh I feel. powerful when I have it yeah feel like. John.

R the final. boss yeah it's yeah it's great for you. but the problem with food is the [ __ ]. that's the most delicious sometimes is. not [ __ ] good for you like lasagna I. think most of the time all that noodles. that noodles is not [ __ ] so good for. you that amount of ravioli. no stuffed shells my way yeah listen so. good you get [ __ ] and also I overeat. with that the thing one I noticed about. the carnivore diet is when I'm done I'm.

done like if I'm only eating steak I can. only eat so much that I'm done but if. there was like mashed potatoes there or. spaghetti eat that you don't eat like. mashed potatoes with steak I don't e. anything just meat just meat yeah no. greens or nothing nothing [ __ ] man since. I got a bad stomach it don't bother me. so much I think my ulcerated colitis. helps keep my weight down I don't think. a good thing but it is what it is it. keeps you from going crazy I yeah cuz. otherwise I'll just mayy I'll just eat. too much he's got he's got natural. semaglutide going on natural semaglutide.

makes you sick yeah [ __ ] that's a wild. thing huh everybody's shooting up with. everybody's over [ __ ] diabetes drug. try to get skinny really is that what's. going yeah man drop weight it cut kills. your appetite and people drop weight. like without changing anything else you. also you lose a lot of bone mass I. believe you you got to lose muscle. tissue everything with cuz you're just. not taking in nutrition so the body's. going to waste yeah Peter Tia who's a. friend of mine who was a doctor he said. he he won't prescribe it to anybody.

unless they're weight training like you. have to be weight training while you're. doing it cuz you're you're losing cuz. like when you're you're doing it they. showed that people are losing weight but. gaining fat so they're high they had a. higher percentage of body fat even. though their body was losing weight so. they're literally like rotting out from. St skinny skinny Fat's the worst it's. starving to death you're starving to. death when you're not eating enough what. happens your body starts to eat itself. and you get smaller yeah that's that's. how I used to cut weight for fights. really back in the day yeah God I mean I.

was you know what I'm saying like now. they do it all scientifically like you. know with you have the pi and all that. they everybody got a nutritionist but. back in the day that's how I used to how. did you learn how to do it from. wrestlers did you learn where did you. learn how to do it from like figured it. out figured it out man I was like I got. to be 145 lbs I gotta get how much did. you have to cut I I would do 20 lounds. like that just not eating wow wow I. didn't know what the [ __ ] I was doing my. first time that's probably why I tore my. bicep cuz I was getting dehydrated and I. uh I was sparring and I I I hit the guy. wide and it went right off that was like.

what is it the Lanny fight I think the. fight yeah and I remember I showed up. for that that with yeah I was [ __ ] up. but I I I I strangled him but uh but I. remember being there just not eating and. people not looking at me good I should. give a major shout out to you remember. Gil Castillo he was a good guy Caesar. gra black Y A buddy of mine remember he. had that wrestling match the Jiu-Jitsu. match with a giant football play player. from the Buccaneers I think I was there.

for that I was in the room for that that. was wild to see that might have been. that might have been exactly this time. matter fact good adver I was there when. that happened I think it was that time. see if you can find that he's funny man. cuz he was there for a couple my fights. he worked he was in my corner for that. Delante fight but he goes dude what he. he goes what are you doing and I told. him I got to make 155 and I'm 160 he. goes dude you're there what are you. talking about he's like eat he made me. eat I wasn't eating so he actually I. didn't know what the [ __ ] to do I didn't. wrestle I wrestled like a season and. then I didn't get along with the coaches.

so [ __ ] fck. really so [ __ ] so uh he got me he got. me eating he goes you could [ __ ] eat. he goes and then thank goodness for him. cuz I I don't know what I what would. happened and then I [ __ ] myself up cuz. after that fight on the plane home I. like the CH I don't know if I cuz I did. something wrong with the thing I. remember getting the chills I was like. ill if I don't know had anything to do. with the way I cut the weight but I. remember I got like a i CAU something.

from that so I was like home just. shivering after that that's what's crazy. like there's a lot of guys who cut. weight and get sick they get sick like. that night because your immune system's. so crushed yeah I was [ __ ] up you see. a lot like a lot of times youc guys are. throwing up like in the yeah yeah the. weird thing is when they black out you. got to tell them hey man yeah it's not. not today yeah that's so scary that they. get on death's door but is there a way. around that like what how is one doing. it do you think they doing it. effectively I think I think so I don't.

I'm not a big weight cutting guy I am. not either I don't really like it I. think you should just fight at high. higher weights if you if you have if. you're struggling to make a weight you. need to go up don't you think they. should have more weight classes and and. they can have more weight I was a. tweener I was sure I was small for 170. kind of I really was and 155 was a. [ __ ] [ __ ] to get to especially now. when you see guys like Hamza that make. 170 like how the [ __ ] I just had Mike. mot on my show the other. day 61 he's huge yeah yeah I'm like I'm.

56 man these guys at that weight class. at 170 these are 200 lb guys it's like. kamaru right I mean you you can't be. small for that weight class with a guy. like kamaru but if we had every 10. lounds I think it makes it it evens it. out better yeah I think 55 65 75 85 95. 205 Maybe maybe 225 and then heavyweight. and I don't think heavyweight should be. 265 I think that's ridiculous I think. heavyweight should be what the [ __ ] do. you. weigh 318 lb like who's that giant.

Russian cat what was his name valuev. remember that guy he was a legitimate. giant he was like seven feet tall I. think Holyfield beat him oh yeah. box I'm thinking remember that guy that. guy is a legit giant he was [ __ ] huge. on the right a [ __ ] James Bond David. yeah see if you can find of was it did. value of fight Evander Holyfield is.

that I don't remember who won that where. is Mr Bond put an eye patch on that. [ __ ] he's a villain from the. [ __ ] he was he should he missed his. calling yeah he was a legitimate. giant yeah Holyfield yep there it is who. won there. D he was 100 pound heav 310 PBS in value. of one a widely disputed majority that's. right that's crazy that's right most.

people thought that a Vander Vander was. 46 oh the the WBA had to investigate the. decision. wow interesting yeah a lot of dirty [ __ ]. in boxing yeah oh dirty dirty dirty what. about when VOR went vers him and like I. mean I like verer you know and. afterwards he's acting like he beat. Holyfield in his PR beat a [ __ ]. 60-year old dud Cal the [ __ ] down who. took the fight on short notice but also. Holyfield if he knocked him out he would.

be celebrating yeah who would it's still. a fight if Holyfield knocked out vtor. he'd be celebrating yeah CU he's. fighting a youngster and he's [ __ ] 60. i' would be [ __ ] doing celd it is. you're right you're right but also you. know it is a fight it is a fight but. he's fighting a 60y old right but if. Holyfield could have caught him and and. knocked him out he would have knocked. vtor out and he would have celebrated I. mean I know what you're saying no no I. of But but so this would be more like he. didn't have his legs he was just. stumbling around it was it was wild and. you know vor's in his 40s and all the.

Mexican supplements gu but that's when I. knew we were living in a parallel. universe is When Donald Trump was like. the commentator for that yeah was that. did he really do commentary I don't know. if it was commentary but he was. somewhere in on a broadcasting of vtor. Belford Evander Holyfield boxing match. VOR look good back on the Saucy baby. yeah he got that [ __ ] I don't think. you amazing fight yeah they fought as I. would yeah yeah you know I'd be pissed.

too if I was Michael Bisping you. know lost the eye kick I'd be pretty. [ __ ] bitter too but trt bfor was a. [ __ ] thing to behold I know [ __ ]. trap he was a thing to behold man Luke. rockold said when he when he saw him. when they were at the way and he was. like what the [ __ ] [ __ ] is this guy. on woo he was because he had all the age. and wisdom and experience but then he. had a body that moved like a super.

athlete yeah was crazy right remember. with rockold he's throwing wheel kicks. and [ __ ] yeah the difference between. usada and no usada that's a crazy. difference crazy over well the worst was. when he fought Weidman cuz when he. fought Weidman he was right off of it. right and right Weidman [ __ ]. Crush so obvious such a it was a big see. if you can find that yeah Uber Uber. doing triathlons what am I looking at.

here is just yeah look at his face yeah. maybe he's going down to. 205 I don't know um what did I ask you. to find sorry. was no [ __ ] can't reply no review God. damn it what did damn over's face. yeah VOR versus Chris Weidman find that. cuz that was that was when also it's not.

fair to make him do that hey you want to. fight for a title go to cold turkey off. trt your body's been living off of for. years and now your body's not producing. testosterone correctly anymore and then. fight the world champion Chris weyman. who's natural and a [ __ ]. monster like he just look way different. like physically s look at look at him. when he's walking I mean it's crazy the. difference it's really not it was not. fair for vtor I mean I know he probably. took it cuz he wanted to fight for the. title but there's no way your body is.

working at an Optimum state after all. those years of being on that just. there's no way he's not making any. friends with that haircut either right. now well he used to love that haircut. that was his go to war haircut really I. mean that's didn't he have that haircut. when you fought bis bang close to it you. should go to the bber with that haircut. face. [Laughter]. oh. [ __ ] oh [ __ ] wild scrambles it still was. a good fight still was a good fight.

until wein got him down look vor's a. talented guy man look at this very. talented look at this I mean he's he's. going for broke against widman which is. very dangerous because if you gas out. this [ __ ] never. does and so then Chris got him down. mounted on him yeah he gets mounted it's. a problem well vtor like clearly. fatigued like he ran out of gas in that. fight and that's. just if you're if your body's not making. testosterone there's no way you can. sustain like the way he did at his prime.

but that's the way you take that fight. anyway really like if you know you. taking on short notice MH you just go. For Broke and then when you gas out you. just qu it is I guess but he he didn't. just gas out he got the [ __ ] beat out. yeah this was at this point at this. point I would just quit you had trt. verer then what do we call verer when he. came on the scene and he was like 220 25. jacked oh that was everything well the. first fight he was like 200 like when he. fought what about when he be vanderlay. how crazy was crazy was when he got up.

to fight Randy Coture so the Randy cotor. like 240 he was giant his trap. start just went straight down but he. gassed out in that fight like Randy was. [ __ ] in his prime back then and Randy. was so solid and see if you can find. like what vtor looked like he was super. jaat. he look like a lion I think they make it. another Expendables movie is that right. are they I swear to God why not they. have like. 85 50 50 Cent's gonna be in it too I.

think I think Dolph Len's in it too yeah. he look like is that the Randy cotor. fight see if you can find well yeah is. that the fight Don Harr says vtor Cuts. Randy gur from the UFC light heavyweight. TI No no no no that was the second time. they fought that was at 205 in that. fight um he actually uh cut he cut his. eyelid yeah I remember it was like the. first like 10 seconds right yeah that's. how won the title and then Randy came. back and beat him so this is that's the. second fight yeah um there was uh for.

the it was back when they were wearing. shoes that's it up in the upper right. hand corner of the small photos right. there that's it so that's V that's the. first time they fought cuz Randy was. wearing shoes right he's wearing shoes. that's czy what year was that that says. to be T three yeah but that's definitely. not that's definitely the first fight. 100% because cuz that's the uh the Sho. the him wearing shoes yeah he was. [ __ ] jacked I remember that Jack he. was hanging out with this dude that was. like his uh weightlifting coach that.

body. dude we we used to call that dude garden. hoses. C right on his arms it was crazy and the. guy he was hanging with I don't know if. he was I don't think he was a Brazilian. guy he was an american guy I think he. wind up dying of a heart attack oh that. guy was American interes the the guy was. purple he was. purple it was like this. yeah was all the time he was so big it. was Preposterous and you're like that's. vor's way living Co well he definitely. has a. connection when uh when he beat uh.

vanderlay Silva and no no that's. Anderson's guy that's when Anderson got. click on that guy though when Anderson. got popped that was his guy good Lord. and I think homeboy was like 60 in this. picture yeah yeah see him around all the. time SW that was when Anderson got. popped um vor's guy I don't think. there's photos of him cuz we're talking. about like the '90s like 9798 back in. the I remember that guy yeah purple.

purple yeah I don't think he lived very. long man I think he was like riding the. lightning he wasn't getting no blood. work done he was stuff in that bag let's. go I know what blood work was back then. I mean a few guys probably did it's a. crazy thing when you think about the. early days of the UFC because what you. talking about pre usada and post usada. you know you guys fought clean but what. percentage didn't oh who know that's. what I'm saying man I wonder how many. guys I fought that were [ __ ] piss and. dirty probably almost everybody I mean.

if it was kind of an INT that's the dude. how'd you find that J oh my God you son. of a [ __ ] Curtis left Jamie's the best. that's the dude look at his [ __ ]. veins man those veins are. crazy how did he die he was a strong man. oh he was a strong man first and those. guys that gu the most crazy veins how. did he die does it say find out I guess. yeah so that was a dude who was training. VOR it was always with.

him yeah man but you know they had like. a different idea of like strength. training back then 36 when he died he. was only 36 good Lord he di yeah wonder. where that came. from yeah right yeah crazy I never even. did heavy weights at all when I was. fighting at all I do like Longo would. just put me through the calisthetics and. Plyometrics and all that kind of stuff I. didn't I would get too tight yeah. functional training is the way to go for. did you do kettle bells or anything with. weights lighter weights uh towards the.

end we started messing with some kettle. bell stuff but not too much Plyometrics. Plyometrics a lot yeah I still do stuff. like that now I even did like I like. even just like there's times where if I. like I work out now like something to. keep me just from like just keep me in. shape like I after Jiu-Jitsu I'll do me. and my buddy just I I did this right. before I got on the plane I did uh I'll. do 20 push-ups and he puts his fist. under I put my fist under him he he have. to touch the fist so that way you're not. cheating he does 20 15 15 10 10 five.

five and then back up five five 10 10 it. ends up being 100 push-ups so instead of. doing 100 push-up straight it's not that. could be annoying and [ __ ] whatever. this way but when you're coming back up. to the last 20 it's annoying it's it's. enough to make you say [ __ ] you and then. uh if I'm doing it by myself I'll do 20. turnover 20 squat 20 sit-ups 15 I do it. that way and again this is not the whole. workout but this is what I do after my. Jitsu training so it's how many push-ups. I get a weekend you know what say that's.

how I warm up from the cold plunge I do. 100 body weight squats and 100 push-ups. that's my warm sets of five five set of. 20 after so I get out of the cold I. start with a cold cuz there was some. study done I think it was a Japanese. study about it elevating your. testosterone and also um uh increasing. your ability to do work because your. body's like you kill all the. inflammation very quickly in the. beginning and then you warm your body up. so some guys like to do it on the they. like to get on the Echo Bike but I find. like body weight squats and push-ups.

it's like I have to do them anyway I do. 100 every day anyway so that's a good. way to warm up so by the time I do five. sets of 20 everything's warmed up and. then I could do other. [ __ ] see the cold plunge I could my my. ears suck man if I go under the water. you don't have to go under the water. okay yeah I I don't go under the water I. dunk my head sometimes under the water. how long did it take you before you were. able to do that because I just I can't. the first one there's a video of me D I. bitched out in like a minute and 20. seconds like I mean I couldn't even do. it I mean I couldn't do 20 seconds it. was so cold but then I realized I'm just.

freaking out and just relax and do. breathing exercise so the next time I. did it I did like four and a half and. then I wanted to see how long I could do. it and the next time I did I did 20. minutes and don't do that don't do that. 20 minutes is too much I was [ __ ] up. for a few days imagine yeah I was [ __ ]. up for a few days that wasn't that. wasn't so good for you I I was dry it. was in 90° weather I drove to from my. house to here with the windows rolled up. no AC on and I was. freezing so I'm in a hot box I mean I.

put the seat heater on in my truck I was. freezing and I it was 90° outside and. the windows were rolled up and I had no. AC on that's how cold I was what were. you thinking that maybe just long got. better I just went to 5 minutes and I. said let's see if I can go to 10 then I. went to 10 minutes and I said I think I. can make 15 then I got to 15 I'm like is. only 5 minutes away next thing and I got. to 20 when I got out and I did the whole. thing on Instagram so I could film it so. I wanted to make sure that I was really. doing it yeah but when I got out of like. that was not a good idea I do not.

recommend that cuz like hypothermia like. 15 minutes or something like that and. it's 34 degre but I'm doing these. breathing exercises while I'm doing it. and that keeps your core he heated up at. least a little bit you know how they. always say that you know they always. like contradict themselves one second. this thing is good for you next second. it's bad for you what if you're really. killing yourself right now what if they. find out that this ice thing take it. killed off the the [ __ ]. caveman it's like I mean I don't know 20. minutes is definitely not good for you. and it probably harms you but doing it 3.

minutes at a time it ramps up your. dopamine by 200% the last for hours it. it reduces inflammation and for me I. just get excited it like when I get out. of there I just feel great and I'll do. like I'll warm up out in the sun so I'm. freeze I get out I towel myself off and. then I'll do all my warm-up [ __ ] out in. the sun I'll do my push-ups and my body. weight squats out in the sun get the. sunlight feel good you know get get a. little bit of a sweat going by the end. of a 100 and then then I start working.

out you don't got that [ __ ] in New York. though you [ __ ] jump out it's little. [ __ ] cold day they're miserable try. it in the summer try it now but it's not. for everybody but for me it it feels. good I like it good way to get it going. feels [ __ ] good man you have is it. indoors or outdoo Outdoors yeah and I I. got a barrel sauna right next to it so. I'll hop in that [ __ ] after my. workouts let me ask you man cuz I love I. start my day with a nice steam I love.

the steam show that's good too but why. is it not as good as the sauna doesn't. get as hot so the thing is it's all. about heat shock proteins it's all about. your body responding to the fact that. it's dying you're in a extreme situation. where your body's like holy [ __ ] so your. body starts producing all these cyto. kindes all these anti-inflammatory heat. shock proteins. and the study they did out of Finland. they did a study where they studied. people over 20 years how many people. were in that study find out how many. people in that Finland study so a after. 20 years they found out the people that.

did it four times per week they had a. 40% decrease of all cause mortality. everything 40% decrease in heart attack. stroke cancer everything and this was. they did think directly connected to. these heat shock proteins and the use of. the SAA on a regular basis four times a. week 20 minutes at a time so 2,300. middle-aged men for an average of 20. years they categorize the men in the. three groups according to how often they. use the SAA each week the men spent an. average of 14 minutes per visit baking.

in 175 degre heat Fahrenheit over the. course of the study 49% of the men who. went to the sauna once a week died. compared to 38% of one the ones who went. two to three times a week and just 31%. of those who went four to seven times a. week frequent visits to auna were. associated with lower death rates from. cardiovascular disease and stroke and. the results don't surprise Dr uh Thomas. H Lee cardiologist at Harvard Affiliated. Brigham and Women's Hospital and. founding editor of the Harvard Heart. letter the cardiovascular effects of.

sauna have been well documented in the. past it lowers blood blood pressure and. there is every reason to believe that. its effects are good for blood. vessels so it's it's good for a lot of. different [ __ ] and it also you just feel. better you feel better when you get out. you just feel better I feel like that. with my steam he said the results are. aren't applicable to steam baths in hot. tubs finish sa as a wood lined room. specifically heated to a stove topped. with stones air inside the sa is very.

hot and dry all the sauner bathers. periodically add water to the stones to. produce a vapor known as Loy how about. just steam you [ __ ] weirdos the word. we know yeah right yeah that all about. they produce something called loy oh you. mean. steam but they throw like eucalyptus oil. in there and [ __ ] and and throw it on. the on the on the Rocks but the the key. is like you do it it increases your. cardio like Dan Gable talked about how. he figured it out from wrestlers like. the Eastern European guys were using it. and and they realized it was a integral.

part of their training to do sauna. afterwards and it's what it's also is. like static cardio so if I do a hard. workout like say if I do like rounds in. the bag I'll go straight into the sauna. my heart is already you know 120. something beats per second after I get. the gloves off and I sit in there and it. just is 185 degrees and you're heart. rate gets back to 147 and just stays. there when you're just sitting there. you're just sitting there suffering so. you do that for 20 minutes it's like 20. minutes of cardio but also all the heat. shock benefits and when you come out of.

there you feel [ __ ] great you just. feel oo so wait a minute so in the. morning you should do the cold stuff and. then like in the afternoon do the sauna. the way I do it depends on how much time. I have I like to do the sauna before I. go to bed it's the my favorite way. because it makes me sleep good but I. also like to do it at the end of a hard. workout so I'll do the cold start my. workout that's the first thing I do and. then I have to heat my body back up. until I could really work out then I. work out and then when I'm done working. out then when I'm all sweaty then I hop. in the SAA ah I mean it makes sense.

because if you do the cold after it kind. of defeats the purpose of the workout. yes it definitely for hypertrophy but. but um but for people who do cardio. especially like if you're doing like. hard Jiu-Jitsu maybe a good move to do. it afterwards you could train more I. know a lot of guys yeah a lot of guys do. that with cryo they like to do cry like. Eddie Bravo said when he had that. rematch with hoer Gracie like he said. there's no way I would have been able to. train like that without cryo he because. he was just doing cryo sessions after. every workout oh that's where you wear.

the mittens and you yeah yeah you freeze. your dick off like 250 degre below zero. for 3 minutes yeah yeah yeah I'm not. built for that neither I just want to do. steroids that's all I want to if I just. get some steroids I'm good to go you're. not on tot no why not I need to I don't. know I just don't feel I don't feel like. paying for. it I. it's money well spent I know I know. eventually I will eventually I will when. we you guys are here I got to get you to. ways to well get get you into ways to. well to do like an extensive blood panel. on you and find out what your nutrient.

levels are they're very comprehensive. and like the that's why I wanted to know. if you got like real good blood work. done they'll give you like a booklet of. all they'll they'll do an analysis of. your blood work and all the the. different things they test for they test. for a lot of [ __ ] they could pull out a. lot of blood yeah I got a buddy at home. same type of spot they do this they're. actually doing was meeting with your. buddy that's the guy texted you. about and they you know they do a very. similar thing it's it's I mean. definitely you should do it I know it's. good to know it's good to know what's. going on yeah you know what's what's low.

I was low in DHEA and I you know I was. also I [ __ ] up I didn't realize how. dehydrated I got from the sauna cuz one. time I went straight there to get my. blood drawn after the sauna and they're. like bro you're [ __ ] de hydrated like. you probably drink a lot of water oh I. drink a shitload of water yeah I drink a. [ __ ] but after that I I doubled and. tripled up to the point where it was a. problem during podcast I'd have to piss. like so often I have to run up I'll you. a piss jug. P I think I got one Ling around the.

house you should sell that on eBay it's. probably worth money right it was like. one of them Arrowhead jugs. 100% that's awesome you know what's. funny I I ke I had a habit of doing that. forever so I kept doing it when I was. married I turn over so so finally Jes. finally my wife's like what's wrong with. you have a bucket of piss next to the UN. my wife after a little bit she goes look. this is not happening oh my God my. mother-in-law was over cleaning like.

with my wife and she's like I got to. this that's not Snapple put that God my. mother-in-law had my Snapple bottle full. of. piss so my wife got me civiliz I'm not. an I told you she's been good for you no. no my wife she like R Longo said she. raised my stock I'm not a animal anymore. so now I a woman like that right for a. guy like you the right girl will bring. you up the the wrong one will ruin you. 100% 100% 100% And I guess women will.

say that about men too yeah 100 yeah. 100% she did that for me and it's the. right one is not the right one for. everybody yeah right yeah that's you got. got to find that chemistry got to find. yours and don't settle don't you [ __ ]. settle keep moving keep moving throw. that phone in the lake and keep moving. that's hysterical you got to know when. to abandon ship yeah abandon ship and. light the boats on fire yeah the [ __ ]. out of here let's go no 100% man I.

definitely I dodged some bullets too oh. my God we all have right he you you. think about some paths you could have. went down and like [ __ ] man all sorts of. ways in life that could have been the. mother of my kids holy [ __ ] you know. also other things just think about. fights just think about street fights. you got in when you were a kid how many. people do you know that got in street. fights where somebody could have died. and then all a sudden you're in jail. yeah no [ __ ] no dumb [ __ ] you remember. Kevin James Kevin James worked as a. bouncer with this guy in Long Island and. this guy knocks some guy out the guy. fell just like [ __ ] steo hit his head.

dead dead guy winds up with a r i mean. Goes to Jail. crazy happens all the time he man see. Matt that's why I be keeping you out of. trouble every time we go up Matt almost. get but it's not I don't look for. trouble obviously well if they see your. nails and they're like [ __ ] off with. that. why are you making it like I'm a [ __ ]. people going to this is what everybody's. going to take out of this like hey [ __ ]. face look at your nails they all long. though I noticed it this morning you.

know but uh I love that you're still. rolling though even with your your knee. replacement oh the knee feels good yeah. that's amazing because I was worried. because when you hear about people. getting knee Replacements I don't really. hear too much about Jiu-Jitsu guys doing. that I was I was concerned man and and. the last the last the when me and you. did the uh the episode when you had the. catch the ball and I was sitting out oh. yeah yeah in Denver and we were doing. looking for a fight and in that episode. I don't like look I the reason why I put. off the knee so long my KN I had a my my. uh my knee surgery get is this the same.

knee that you had injured when you you. said you tore your meniscus before the. Carl fight my Meniscus no I think it's. the other knee believe it or not yeah I. got I got I was supposed to get both my. knees done but I'm not getting the other. one done right away because uh you know. I have [ __ ] I could walk I it passed. the test of for years when I'd go to the. Disney and Universal I'd have to get a. motorized cart you know I made it fun I. took some edibles and we around. but the point was it was I had to make.

the best of it I couldn't I couldn't. walk I couldn't walk through the park so. the last time we went with my family I'm. like yo this is I know it sounds simple. but I'm like yo this is [ __ ] great. I'm walking with my kids I got a. drumstick now now I don't feel like a. fatty with a big drumstick now I'm. walking around with it. uh no pain I could walk with my knee no. pain at all no I'm good amazing but uh. what does it does it feel like you or. does it feel like something moving with. you no it dude it feels it feels fine I.

mean I feel cuz it's titanium if someone. went to kick me I could use that to. [ __ ] block that yesterday I could. usually I even asked them I go I go. let's say if someone went to kick me I. asked the do I go I would it get on. would it be able to get kicked out they. go no that shit's cemented in there. that's not going to [ __ ] happen it's. like they they and they told you no. restrictions on any movements or. anything well before I went in he said. that it's like an 80% chance that you'll. be able to do everything you want to do.

I guess they don't want to maybe get. your hopes up too high right and you're. different than most people too though. and most people that get knee. Replacements are not Elite athletes but. you know what the problem is I think. they told me that most people when they. go into but uh Dr Amato great guy he's a. Jiu-Jitsu guy he was my PT guy I'd like. to give him a shout out cuz he got me. back and I I felt good comfortable with. him cuz he was reassuring me being a. purple belt and Jiu-Jitsu he said he. knew what I had to do he goes you'll be. able to do everything [ __ ] everything. and uh and he's right I'm able to do. everything he goes Matt the problem is.

when you they do these like whatever you. ask people about are they able to move. their KNE the way they were before a lot. of times when they go into the surgery. they can't bend that [ __ ] so I was. already flexible so I kept everything so. that's good like I could touch my my. knee my can you do triangles with it. yeah [ __ ] yeah I give triangles with it. yeah I give triangles and they told you. like essentially it's permanent like is. it for the rest of your life like how. long do it last uh I think the I think. the the thing was the shelf life was.

what was about the 30 years something. like that 20 to 30 or something like. that and then what happens I think we. got to get a new one by then I don't. know I don't I didn't really ask about. that but uh what happened was my. other like you could see behind this I. was getting big oh by the way you like. my socks it's my I love you Daddy Su but. I'm sorry but uh what I was getting was. that's called a baker's cyst this is my. this is my knee that I didn't get done. yet holy [ __ ] that's so what happen is.

when you have when you have bone on bone. it it gets like inflammation and fluid. and it ends up going to the back of the. knee so you see this thing that thing's. all fluid I have to get that drain that. [ __ ] and how often you get it drained. like it's you're supposed to they don't. want you to do it too often because they. put in a um. like what is it Cortisone and they say. that'll [ __ ] up the knee but I got have. to get a new knee anyway so I don't give. a [ __ ] so shoot it up but uh you know. but what happens is it it blows back up.

soon you know what I mean I would try to. keep a tight sleeve on it but it would. just fill back up they try to shoot it. with the the cortisone so it doesn't. come back but it comes back so I got. that thing drained several times I. eventually you're going to have to get. that one eventually I will but until I. can't walk I'm I'm walking normal you. see yeah. I walking normal but I think Bisping. still had both of his da yeah he had. both of his da but I think they bother. him sometimes I think like he's standing. too long I think it bothers him but he's.

still like he's training and all that. good stuff kick the stuff. with kick the bag the only thing I. [ __ ] up with and I told you that. earlier off air is that I I tore my quad. and uh that's a little annoying cuz. sometimes I'm it'll dip like I'll be. I'll Just. Fall I did it in the kitchen the other. day my wife's like what the [ __ ] like CU. it like like 20% of it like in the front. of it so like it'll like if I bend my. knee it sometimes it'll it'll continue. to bend so I just got to be alert of. that I [ __ ] up you're supposed to step.

down with your bad leg off regular steps. I did it from too high off a couch cuz I. went to those short jokes you CAU I was. getting stop right. time out of your mouth so I had to reach. something so when I went to step down I. did with my bad leg and it [ __ ]. ripped boom straight down I I I just. [ __ ] damn so uh and you didn't did. was there an option to get it surgically. reattached I went to my PT guy and he.

goes oh you tore that thing cuz I was on. meds I was on the pain stuff I I don't. what the [ __ ] I was on but uh so maybe. it helped with the pain but it was. [ __ ] painful and then I noticed it I. didn't know it was deformed I didn't. know what the [ __ ] I did and then he. looked he goes look man he goes like if. there's like a 100 fibers in your leg. you tore like 20% of them or something. so it's kind of like what I did to my. bicep but you know it is what it is I. [ __ ] that up I can't go back in time. and fix it and uh could they have if you. did it right away I don't I have no idea.

I have no idea have you ever heard of. that they I know they can do that with. your B I mean I had a buddy that had his. quad detached and they you know they. reattached it and everything I heard of. a dude who got his quad detached from a. leg. kick leg kick was so severe this leg. kick was so severe that it sliced the. quad God damn yeah this dude did it. shooting on somebody o I think but again. fortunately he was on a mat you know at. least he could have happen squatting or. riding he was. anos SE where guys legs explode while.

they're doing deep squat know man I. don't like that [ __ ] oh it drives me. nuts man the way trading you know I got. too much add for that I'm afraid all. like you know what I mean like I could. zone out my Jiu-Jitsu and whatever and I. really think my ADD helped my fighting. it kept me in the moment I swear to God. like I don't know but I I could I could. [ __ ] start daydreaming and I'm gonna. [ __ ] break a leg or something I don't. like the the heavy weights I get I get. not [ __ ] that I don't like that [ __ ]. [ __ ] that yeah people didn't believe I. used to tell him I go he don't even lift.

I said he does more you know plyometric. gymnastic stuff think about like those. guys that first of all look at the guys. who do the rings in the Olympics they're. the most. jacked tiny little legs. though but super jacked arms man when. they do that [ __ ] I mean those guys and. everything oh my God I mean calisthenics. if you look at those bar Stars guys. those guys who do those playground. workouts oh. yeah like look at these guys the [ __ ]. build on these mother core strength is.

ridiculous insane you teach that guy to. Jiu-Jitsu always said that I said if he. learn Jiu-Jitsu look at that [ __ ]. dude and he's in his pajamas yeah poting. his got a onesie on right sexy God I. know any sport you do with your socks. only on ridiculous look at the [ __ ]. go back to that photo again real quick. please look at the [ __ ] build on that. dude like Jesus lisus look at that thing. that's crazy that's a ridiculous kind of. power to do that cross th% oh my God.

yeah so think about like those go to. those uh bar Stars guys because there's. these dudes who do and you know there's. guys some of these guys are like in. their 60s that are doing these workouts. there's this one Russian cat Who does. these on Instagram and he's uh he's like. 58 years old and he does all these wild. uh playground workouts he must have been. like a at one point in time must have. been some you know Russian uh Olympic. rings guy or something like that or some. look at these [ __ ] guys I mean God.

look at the building these [ __ ] guys. all calisthenics you can get a crazy. build with. calistenics you just got to be willing. to do some evil [ __ ] to yourself yeah. this is evil that's so hard. but it's uh an interesting sort of like. test case on strength and conditioning. program yeah it is yeah I mean if you. can do that like what what you in the. gym for right but the thing is it's like.

how much would that help your Jiu-Jitsu. a lot oh I think that's probably even. more because it's like so many different. movements all at once yeah look at these. guys this is crazy strength the. stabilizers that's crazy what is it. called Hannibal forking chinups his name. is Hannibal oh oh oh Royal oh it's Royal. o pull-ups it's called how the [ __ ] does. he get down look at this crazy oh that's. us talking about how awesome they. are I'm so I'm so impressed with people.

that could do that it's like that's a. long road dude that good dude George he. does that stuff all the time pretty. amazing yeah uh he's smart he figured it. out I mean he's like gymnastics fun. you're calling me a geek every now and. then what I get with George I get a text. from him no words no nothing it's the. latest sooka trailer the L Star Wars. trailer yeah yeah he's into the St he's. a bigger Star Wars nerd than me he. throws he he's talking me about the. cartoons and everything my brother. Jamie's big in the Star Wars yeah yeah.

Mandan was fun George is big in the UFOs. too oh yeah UFOs yes very interesting so. what about that UFO or the the little. alien that was in Vegas. Vegas like 8 foot tall n wa wait hold on. what do you think most likely not a true. story. most likely but might be so here's the. thing if an alien spacecraft did land in. your backyard and a 10- foot dude got. out and you see him and you don't get. your phone up in time because you're. mesmerized and it just takes off like.

what happened is that is that real okay. even if it is real what are you are you. going to tell people even if you tell. people no one's going to believe you so. you're stuck in this spot unless you. have video evidence of it I don't know. right but I do know that George knp. who's like the the he's like the most. prominent investigative reporter in Las. Vegas for UFOs he's the guy that broke. the Bob Lazar case back in the late. 1980s that was a guy who claimed to have. back engineered UFOs and it's a very.

interesting story but anyway he went to. visit these people they made an. appointment like on I think it was two. different occasions when he went to. their house they didn't answer the door. oh really yeah so but it also could be. they don't want the smoke they don't. want that attention imagine you're just. a regular person you're not making any. money from this all everyone's calling. you a liar and then everyone knows where. your house is and then people coming by. show me the backyard show me the. backyard I mean it probably would have. freaked them out I mean there's probably. a lot going on on the subject the behind. you because I can't UNL at who is this.

individual getting sum I think it's. supposed to be me I think it's supposed. to be me getting sucked up into a. spaceship what am I what the hair. somebody gave me this it's a gift I. don't think that's him headphones. headphones my bad I thought it was like. a Mongolian dude or something I don't. know oh hair the hair is like a ponytail. that's why I swear to God the whole time. oh now I get it I think that's supposed. to be me getting sucked up into the now. it makes all the sense in yeah this was. a gift by Brigham my friend Brigham yeah. he gave me this when I first came here. and so it was so cool we decided there.

it is you can see it on that image but. then we decided it was so cool it would. be cool behind. me so it looks like it belongs here [ __ ]. man and uh and the club and they Club. you're having a lot of fun with the club. oh it's amazing so fun that's so wild. and you got um I just know this because. I was a huge fan of the nor McDonald. podcast with Adam egot yeah now I they. had such a great chemistry to do you. ever see and he runs that show runs he's. the town coordinator yeah and the only.

reason I know that name is because I was. s they had such did you guys ever see. the old nor McDonald podcast it was so. this is it it was before it went on. Netflix the Netflix ones all right but. this was so funny and I thought he was a. very funny guy I thought he they had a. great thing going Adam's very funny he. could be a comic if he wanted to be a. comic but he's a great talent. coordinator he's just a great dude he's. a just a fun guy to have around and no. McDonald was like my like he was just. such a such a funny comic like he oh my.

God he was the best he was just he was. the one guy I continually just watch and. not feel sometimes when I watch standup. comedy I get nervous for the stand-up T. like I get like like I don't know like I. don't cuz you don't want you don't want. him to bomb yeah I don't know what it is. but I never got nervous with that guy I. always do it once didn't you do it once. with Adam Hunter episode uh no not with. Adam Hunter was Adam Hunter he asked me. to do that he he was hosting the show. though no I think you're thinking of Eve. Edwards did it no no no no no Adam. Hunter was actually the host we did Dana.

White Dana White looking for a fight the. uh the LA episode his first episode yeah. my first episode Nick The Tooth [ __ ]. walked off the show and we needed. somebody within 24. y Nick thought that everybody else. wasn't really getting tased or something. was there something crazy like that. something like that 100% now Nick The. Tooth when we were doing the show uh I. would get along with the tooth like he. was a funny guy he was a fun guy to hang. with he was kind of goofy but he was. funny you know but then you'd go back.

and you'd watch the episode and see him. talking to the camera saying all sorts. of [ __ ] so a couple of things happened. one somebody told him we all got locked. hands together in one of the episodes me. Dana and Nick and they had us they tased. us so we all got [ __ ] tased and he. was the only one being like stop you. know that kind of thing oh no so he. wanted to save face I guess and somebody. told him that oh the way they did it. they really [ __ ] you man you got more.

of the voltage than some [ __ ] which. is obvious D we all got [ __ ] up from. that we all got so that's one and then. another thing was him saying that we set. him up with me and him doing a a. grappling match which was [ __ ] the. furthest thing from the truth he was the. one talking [ __ ] I remember when I first. first started shooting the show I was a. little chubbier so I think he thought I. was on the couch and Nick theth won some. [ __ ] he won some like the old man worlds. and whatever it was I think he just won. something recently talented ji- Jitsu. guy he's like he does like the barolos.

and all back then what was he was he a. purple belt a brown belt a brown belt so. I was watching the after the first. episode you know I was watching the. thing and all a sudden I see him going a. Matt makes me look good he's bald he's. always late uh all we got to do is. settle the grappling now this he's said. this on the show so I remember being. like just dumb I I didn't know what the. hell he was thinking of so when I see. him the next time we're on Danish jet. we're doing the [ __ ] Alaska episode I. go dude what the [ __ ] was that settle.

what so and he was play he was right. along with it he's like yeah we got the. tooth now and this and that CU I'm like. dude I went with the best in the world. what the [ __ ] you talking about so but. he was G ho about it let's let's grapple. let's grapple so we ended up doing uh. doing the show and then we were in a. Jiu-Jitsu gym in Alaska so I go hey man. [ __ ] now listen if anybody had. anything to lose imagine I slip and the. [ __ ] gets some a barolo on me. and uh I would have something to lose L. into this knucklehead but no of course I. you know I had my way with him so you.

know afterwards Dan Dan on Dana goofed. on him a bunch you know but I got a a. text from him right this is the first. time I knew there was some kind of. problem hey Matt you know it was an. honor this and that I just have to let. you know that I can't let that footage. be shown that's what he said you know it. look good look bad for my instructors. and this and that I was wearing that. rash guard so I call up I go to day and. I go hey man I know your friends with. him what kind of what kind of power does. this guy have to say that this shit's.

not going to be on the [ __ ] air he. goes he goes not only is that going to. be [ __ ] shown wait till you listen to. my [ __ ] commentary d goes not only is. that going to be. shown man so I think he thought he was. being set up but it was nothing like. that at all so he was a little bit of a. weird dude with that I seen him since he. was cool I like listen he was a likable. guy he very likeable guy but I think he. was some guys I think on the camera I. think they're a little insecure with how. they are portrayed but it was a weird. thing because he was acting wacky but. then he's getting upset that he's being.

portrayed wacky so it's like dud what. the [ __ ] are you talking about so then. he ended up getting to like a [ __ ] a. [ __ ] pushing match with Dana or. something at a concert I think they were. at Chili Peppers concert and and uh I. think it was actually Joe Silva went up. to him and asked him something like oh. what was it like the roll with Matt and. he said that fat [ __ ] set me up I go hey. wait a minute oh my God I go whoa what. the [ __ ] I wasn't there I heard about. this so Dana called me uh I was with my. wife and she was with me we were.

celebrating our anniversary in Vegas and. we went to go from there to LA to shoot. this episode and then [ __ ] uh Dana. called me to the office and we were like. yo we were tooth left the show what the. [ __ ] we gonna do we were booked at that. where did we do the Laugh Factory Laugh. Factory yeah so I'm not saying uh I'm. not saying Y what all to. me but there was one name that popped. into my name the first name I go to Dean. I go to [ __ ] I go Dan I go Y what.

about Dean Thomas he goes I always like. there he is look at him. [ __ ] how that go not bad I mean did you. write your own material I wrote my own. material ni and then I I have a whole. other with Adam Hunter a few times I've. done with Adam Hunter few times I ain't. going to lie he used the NW as a crutch. a little bit but that that. was that was my first time and then he. got more comfortable with it look at. Dana chubby Dana Dana's all skinny Now. isn't it wild to see yeah I know I was. get mad up there Brian K in the audience.

I felt that was fun though I'll tell you. right now I had a adrenaline I felt so. good I told the people on the raft this. too I'll climb up there bite your. [ __ ] neck I I go I said I like the I. like the layout I get that you. [ __ ] quick but uh we had a good. time didn't we Dean was that that was. awesome that was so much fun man fun. show you guys did that was so much fun. fun to you guys did a lot of wild [ __ ]. right what about the shark episode that. was a fun swam with sharks you know. what you swam with sharks you got you.

got out as fast as you got [ __ ] up you. know what's oh I went back in you know. what's [ __ ] up about that they are. doing everything you're not supposed to. do they're chumming up the water they're. on their side like this acting like. they're seal yeah wounded seals so that. to to draw the Sharks out while we were. in the water what the now look we're in. there the best is the cameramen are on. the other boat right one of the you know. Charlie told me after he goes yo he goes. they said some of the guys in the boat. with him they go he sooner or later. something's going to go wrong with this. yeah these are producers these are. producers coming up with these ideas.

right is that what it is the the. chumming that doesn't sound no that's. these guys this hey again that was. Florida what the [ __ ] dude y get me the. [ __ ] in there dude when I looked. underneath how many people could say. there was like a cage they go you don't. want to go in a cage the cage hurts. anybody yeah I was like I want to go in. the cage you don't want to go in the. cage why that's what they said they were. trying go in the cage why don't you want. to go in the cage he goes oh the cage. hurts I think these guys are just yeah. they were just [ __ ] with us to get us. to. do just because you can do something.

doesn't mean and just because you could. pay for an experience doesn't mean. you're not going to die I think we found. out about that recently yeah exactly. that [ __ ] submarine thing that's the. that's sad so crazy the inventor of the. [ __ ] submarine was on it when it. imploded oh really yes it crazy. they knew it happened and held it back. for 5 days why do you think they did. that give me personally I mean I'm a. good conspiracy theory guy I think. there's so much drama going on with the. president and his son this was something.

to keep it keep the headlines for a few. days cuz that's right when he got. indicted I mean uh guilty and [ __ ]. interesting we are so easily distracted. yeah right that was a good one though. too for like 4 days it was like I hope. they find them they only have 72 hours. left yeah that's true yeah but mean they. were imped dead they said they heard it. cuz the the the government apparently. this is what's crazy they had to sort of. admit that they have a Top Secret. acoustic surveillance system like why. are you admitting that just BEC are you.

just admitting it just because you know. that there was an implosion like why. would you admit that you have a top. secret system now it's not top secret. now everybody [ __ ] knows about it. maybe James I mean he was the one that. said I knew the Navy heard it you know. they lost at the same time they heard. the audible bang and I'll tell you right. now I wouldn't have done it look at that. a top secret military acoustic detection. system not anymore right everybody knows. now how [ __ ] everybody knows the.

Titanic guy told everybody yeah right. how crazy as that he went what three. times as deep as one the kind he was. with you could pile around this one was. like an elevator like you had one button. to go up it yeah and they were. controlling it with a Logitech remote no. no desire and there was lawsuits like. there's a lot of whistleblowers that. were saying that that Hull is not with. it can't withstand that kind of depth. yeah especially the new material they. said the carbon fiber and they didn't. even like the design the guy said at.

least if it was woven it might have work. they said this was like in like like. almost like a spring it was wound oh God. the carbon fiber was did you [ __ ] did. you back to the shark thing did you see. out of out of Egypt that get beat by the. shark. that was a real life Jaws movie hor one. point you see his feet up in the air yep. horrible it was and in the background of. playing like Stand By Me or some [ __ ]. it's and it's like it is the most. horrific thing have I seen that before I.

wouldn't have done the episode it's. horrible dude I looked down when we were. in that water and I saw a [ __ ] Shar. looking up at me I saw that too man I. got the [ __ ] out of there cuz I don't. swi that n dude [ __ ] that now it's got. The Stereotype whatever we do I don't. care. yeah it's true there were some people. brother don't swim there was some people. recently in Florida or in Hawaii rather. with the husband and the wife were. snorkling and the husband like gets his. head out of the water and they're. screaming get out of the water get out. of the water it's cuz his wife was.

getting. eaten a shark that was eating his wife. while they're screaming at him to get. out of the. water what he did he get out of tiger. shark yeah but they never found the wife. they they ate they ate her whole body oh. yeah that happened my friend Duncan was. uh in Hawaii and it happened like the. week before he was there the week before. the week after I forget which but like. real close where he was like I was in. that [ __ ] water hey want to hear about. balls dude you you can't swim and you.

jumped off a [ __ ] cliff into water. that's in Hawaii that Hawaii brought it. back to me yeah uh did you have life. vest on no you can't because you have to. the impact cuz the impact like if you. hit the water without that it'll crush. your chest we jumped off a cliff how the. [ __ ]. me and you jumped off a cliff yeah that. was the episode that was the episode. that Dana didn't jump out yeah did he no. Dana Dana ended up not jumping I know a. guy who [ __ ] his back up for life. doing that he landed bad he landed bad.

blew one of his discs completely apart. oh how far is this oh this is this is. fun man oh my god dude this is [ __ ]. awesome though come on we have some nice. memories how far know how far was this. jump I don't know but I'm in better. shape now with my shirt you want to see. me take my shirt off now I'll show you. God damn look at this way little chubby. guy. uh yeah how many feet do you think that. is I don't know that's pretty [ __ ]. high but oh my God o yeah Dana Dana was.

up there Dana was up there until the sun. went down no way yeah he never did it. all these other people did it and he. didn't do it did anybody get hurt while. you were there no like little kids doing. it Dana's Pride got hurt. hello [ __ ] that uh Dana was like [ __ ]. and the best is we're he was up there. for three hours and we're in the truck. now first of all he was breaking your. balls before that yeah so then we get. off that we in we're in the van on the. way back Dan is a little down in his. dumps and Dean's starting to be like.

well he took balls just to get up there. I'm like boot man [ __ ] give it to him. Dean Jesus look that's so far he was up. there a long time 2 hours and 30 minutes. [ __ ] that Dana still didn't do it they. cut some [ __ ] from the episode I'm. sitting there yelling I go Scott Coco. with do. [ __ ] imagine if he did holy [ __ ] he was. up there till the. [ __ ] and he had to walk down the walk. shame oh my God hilarious but uh hey but.

just to give him a compliment so I don't. get fired yeah uh he did jump on a. [ __ ] bull oh no really wrot a he wrot. a b why why don't you call me first I. hosted Fear Factor I'll tell you what. not to do. you want to look at him riding the ball. better to. jum it's a legit bu it's not he do that. afterwards so he felt bad he before. that's why maybe that's why he didn't.

jump the was like he realized how I'm. rich he almost like I'm rich as [ __ ] why. am I do watch this [ __ ] watch this [ __ ]. oh my God this is Dana yeah we both did. it I landed on my look this look at this. this a real B and this thing almost got. him look at when he lands look when he. lands look look look look look look look. oh my could have land on him so lucky. that's just luck damn that's just dumb. luck no no dude that was not. dude oh my God that's so close that. could crushed his hips ruined his organs. dude this I wouldn't do this again that.

was close [ __ ] that yeah no I I did it. too the [ __ ] helmet couldn't fit me I. was chubby I remember we did Fear Factor. I wasn't there for that one we did Fear. Factor once it was one dude who was a. bull rider it wasn't a bull riding. episode but his shoulder he said had. eight he had eight operations his. shoulder me a shoulder he's like I can't. hold on anything with this my arm will. just pull right out of the socket he. just had the slices all over his arm his. AR they just reconstructed him so many. times this is just bucketless [ __ ] I'm. not doing that again hell I'm not doing.

that yeah [ __ ] that I didn't ride the. bull I did the the clown though oh yeah. you did the clown oh you clown that's. even scarier yeah I had and it [ __ ]. it it almost hit me man it was like oh. no the hoof almost hit. me we do love that job I know it is a. fun it's a fun are you guys still doing. risky [ __ ] like that nah that last time. wasn't nothing like that they've been. chilling out a lot it's not as risky but. now you having fun yeah but we still. having fun now it's a great idea though. what a great idea you go to these small.

shows you know you guys show up. everybody's freaked out oh my god look. who's here yeah and then you get to do. wild [ __ ] and that down it's a it's just. it's such a good time man it's a great. you're hanging out with your buddies the. worst was like Matt didn't even realize. that we did it here in Austin a couple. years ago oh really I was telling people. it's my first time. he goes we shot the show. here listen I'm so happy you came out. cuz Dean didn't think you'd come out I. didn't think. he thanks for having me you should do a. podcast you are so [ __ ] good at this.

man I mean come on man right I'm 100%. well he's got we. doc your own the Matt Sarah show Matt. Sarah's take on life I do my video. people are making a lot of money on. Twitch and I just do it for free I'm I. you be making money with my VR. eventually I'm just so um his switch. never turns off with this guy you got a. nice balance I have such a you're so. good at this though we have a good time. though we the secret to Our Success I.

think in everything we do Dean Thomas. even when you do the show with me I. think if we're having fun everybody's. having fun that's the secret of this. podcast just have fun that's it all. podcast yeah it's like you know if. you're enjoying it other people enjoying. all I need is a [ __ ] nail trimmer. yeah just Chim them Nails all right uh. John R tell everybody about your gym oh. yep we're uh back in Baltimore it's. called Ground Control and it's. groundcontrol baltimore.com and for my. fight promotion is Shogun fights thank. you brother for letting me pleas brother.

oh man Dean Thomas when are you going to. be doing commentary next to us um you. 100% should be doing that 100% you. should be doing I don't want to I think. you guys work too much I like sitting I. like sitting behind you guys and just. chiming in every so often he does great. with that though just great I just like. sitting and chiming in every so often I. do love when you chime in though you. always have such good points yeah well. thank you very much but I tell you what. though tell the people watch tough uh. after tough tomorrow night after tough. 31 you got so many jobs H yeah I do the.

post I do the post show for The Ultimate. Fight is that on the SPN plus it's on. ESPN plus so it's called after tough I. do ESPN plus is the [ __ ] I [ __ ] love. that so many fights yeah I mean I'm. sometimes I have to do some [ __ ] with my. family [ __ ] set that other side put. on. oh he's out he's out he's. out yeah I love it I love it that it. just streams around your phone it's. [ __ ] incredible I love ESPN. especially going back the John R days. when I first met you we go over.

someone's house to watch it for real fck. told when when he beat you know when he. beat George for the title we had a house. full of people and when he dropped him I. I was like this close to the TV I'm be. on at it finish him finish him it was I. felt like I want to fight when happened. I was so happy for him it was awesome. man this was like a reunion man thanks. for thanks. Fork you guys and last minute Edition it. awesome thank I mean I appreciate you. even asking me on this is like a bucket. list thing so even though we're boys.

it's It's amazing And you know I'm just. happy for all your success thank you. brother thank you all right guys that's. it wrap it up bye bye everybody. [Music]. [Applause]. [Music].