JRE MMA Show #136 with Jamahal Hill

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. day and we're up what's up champ what's. going on pleasure to do this pleasure to. have you in here man yeah thank you for. having me man I appreciate it that was a. phenomenal performance in Brazil against. Glover toera in his. hometown last minute like I mean how. much time did you have to prep for that.

uh I had about six weeks oh you did have. six weeks yeah I had six weeks but it. was but you knew that it was a three it. was supposed to be three rounds and then. they changed it to the title for five. rounds right no so was a title that was. right after anv and yam bovich so right. from there they legitimately called me. while they were still wow yeah while. they were still in the gaug if you. wanted a full camp for a five round. fight though what would you what would. you prefer like how much time do you. really need uh I prefer maybe I like.

eight weeks eight to about eight to 10. weeks so slightly abbreviated but your. performance was phenomenal man I mean it. was it was amazing to see you pick aart. Glover like that and to do so well on. the ground too I mean that that was a. big victory yeah I mean a lot of people. thought that I couldn't do I could know. I couldn't well that was just the. general assumption was that I couldn't I. couldn't grapple on the ground and. things like that when that's definitely. but you getting that General assumption.

from who though people. online just uh pics like you know what I. mean just like people like like like an. analyst then like any like the fighters. or whatever that I talk to her like they. were like oh like they always say it's. always something that they say even guys. in the division you know they were like. oh he's just a boxer you know I don't. know if he can really wrestle or if he. can really has like kicks or anything. like that they're questioning the kicks. too you know so this is that's some of. the biggest moments in the fight that. left high kick yours yeah well people. are going to question you until can't.

anymore right that's how it goes you. know there's always I don't know about. this guy and then all of a sudden he's. the best ever you never know right and. that's why I'm that's why I'm just. hungry for you know I mean for names man. I'm hungry for the next challenge what. did it feel like when they strapped that. thing around your. waist man this is it's a hard thing to. describe it was just. like like almost like unreal like almost. like living like almost like like in a. dream like one of the dreams that I've. had you know it was just like I don't.

know it was just crazy just the weight. of everything that I did been through. and everything was just it was a lot. yeah it seemed like a lot it's a lot for. everybody I mean that's a moment that. very few human beings will ever achieve. there there's there's it right now yeah. that was he like that's when he told me. he was about to. retire I mean it's amazing how long that. dude has hung in there he was the. boogeyman for six years you know for six. years Glover lived in Brazil and he. couldn't get a Visa and this was like in.

the early days like when Chuck Liddell. was the UFC light heavyweight champion. that's how far back Glover goes right I. heard something about like he went he. went pro in 2001 yeah crazy right crazy. that's wild 22 years. later and then still fighting for a. world championship you know having that. fight with EUR prosa where he lost the. title I mean that was a crazy close. fight until he got caught in that choke. he was ahead I think it was yeah he was.

ahead in that fight yeah I believe it. was that video that you made to Yuri was. hilarious we played it on the podcast. yeah man can't can't let it slide that's. what she said that's what she said that. the first thing it came in my head. whenever he said I'm coming now now I. can't like bro he's ruin the he's ruin. the phrase for me now cuz now I can't. say it at all no matter what somebody. called me and like oh I'm coming like. I'm coming. like just he's an odd.

duck yeah that dude's an odd duck he's. strange he's very very different do you. see like when he was fighting Glover and. Glover was beating him up he was like. good job good job yeah like tapping him. on it I thought it was like well you. can't do that man it looks like you're. tapping what happen like what are you. doing he's like good job good job he's. but he's saying good job and I I think. it was was it Mark Goddard who was the. referee I think it was Mark Gard whoever. it was was warning him like Hey don't. [ __ ] slap him and say good job you.

can't do that just what a weird thing to. do guys on top of you rain and blows. down you're like good job good job. like yeah bro I don't I don't know only. thing I can think would be possibly it. could be like just like a a tactic to. try to make it seem like all like no. matter what you're wasting your time. right type thing like try to like get in. their head cuz I think even like with. the whole Samurai thing like he wants to. play he obviously wants to wants to this. image to be believed of and like that.

but you know I just seen him when I was. at the pi a couple days ago and he's. he's a nice dude you know he walked up. he's like nice to meet you things like. that and then like I came back the next. day I was going into PT and he was. working he was like he's like I'm I'm. working on it I mean working try to get. back I'm like take your time do your. thing I want he's already had the. shoulder surgery right uh I don't know I. would assume if he's already trying to. rec yeah I'm sure he has because. apparently his shoulder was the worst. shoulder they had ever seen the UFC. doctors had never seen a shoulder that. [ __ ] up before do you know what.

happened to him no his shoulder went out. of socket in training camp and they. tried to put it back in and these dudes. are yanking on it these just gym dudes. yanking on it and they [ __ ] it up way. worse yeah that's never a good idea go. to a [ __ ] doctor man you're a world. champion world champion and he had to. give up his title like that well it's. interesting that he did decide to give. up his title he could have held on to it. they could had an interim title and you. could be fighting him for the Undisputed. title but instead he's like NOP I'm. going to give up my my title that's why.

he's an odd dude yeah that's strange cuz. that's not only like. a like I don't think that's not only. like like not only like a bad move. Legacy wise that's a bad business move. yeah cuz now your next fight you fight. as a challenger yeah you don't get the. you don't get the same pay-per-view buys. you don't you know I mean you don't get. the same amount of money or none of that. so yeah it doesn't make any sense I mean. I could imagine the thought process. behind it like you want to be Noble but. you got to take care of your money bro.

you got to take care of your money I. mean how many world title fights you get. if you're lucky if you everything goes. perfect and he should know now. especially being injured like hey this. could happen and you could get a. catastrophic injury and you could be out. for a year or so you never know I think. it was a play of him trying to be Noble. just trying to be Noble trying to like. you oh he does the right thing where he. respects the warrior I like how you. thinking about it like 3D chess like. what is this [ __ ] doing for real. yeah I'm trying to tell you man I think.

a lot of what he does is meant to put a. certain image in your head you know so. I'm sure I mean makes sense it it' be. smart to do I mean he's got a weird. image he's out there throwing kicks at. trees right you know he's like wraps a. tree up in a foam pad and starts. punching it and kicking it like yelling. in the woods yeah like okay man you know. gyms are better gyms are definitely. better than a tree I want to know what. it is about being in the woods that just. makes them wants to yell like what is it.

are you upset with the. trees do you just feel. alone it's like something do you want to. be heard I mean these are all lot things. do you want to be heard right right yeah. me do is it does it make you more. more noble or sophisticated to be in the. woods I don't know what is it remember. when Rocky was training for for Drago. and Rocky 4 went to the Woods running in. the snow carrying logs and [ __ ]. think matter of fact in the uh in the in.

the god it makes me feel weird just even. saying it in the I'm coming. video damn it damn it I don't know. another way that's what she said this is. great I think where you at. though this is the video by the way. that's what she said that's what she. said bro and the one that he did though. it's like a axe in a in a uh in a tree.

stump in the background yeah did you. notice that no I didn't notice that yeah. bro so I don't bro it's probably out. there chopping wood what. yeah I don't know look at. him I'm. coming I'm. coming it is [ __ ] weird it's like oh. wait so I guess I was an axe yeah I. might have been high when I see it could. have just been that post right there. yeah I don't see a axe.

he's a strange cat man that's a strange. cat that was just. like yeah I don't know. man I'm coming do you think he's next. have they have any conversations with. you about who who's going to be your. first title defense as the champion of. the [ __ ] world woo sounds good sounds. good right real [ __ ] good and you. earned the [ __ ] out of that too yeah man. it was uh yeah bro Glover was Glover was. tough man oh he's so tough.

like like y'all said that right I think. we need to put a little bit more. emphasis on it because. like it's not just that he's tough he's. tough he's tough and while he's being. tough he's still fighting intelligently. you get what I'm saying so like for for. not one second did I hit him with. something and it was like oh [ __ ] I was. like I don't want to get hit with. whatever's next cover up like you know. what I mean like that that that one like.

oh I need to I need to find like. protection type he never did that you. know and that was just like crazy cuz it. was one sequence like I think it was. like in the third where I hit him with. right hand right hand elbow left hand. it's like at no point was he like oh. [ __ ] I need to cover up or anything cuz. like I mean I finish you at that point. but it's like bro that was in the ground. and pound sequence yeah when you're on. top of that was so close a lot of. reference refes would have stopped it a.

lot of referees would have stopped it. there I mean you were dropping bombs on. him but yeah he kept moving kept moving. he kept trying to kick me in the he. kicked me in the face from the bottom. yeah he grabbed my arm and pulled me. like he's going to try to pull me in his. guard and then when I went in as soon as. I like so obviously to not go in you're. gon to sit up I set up he kicked me in. the. face yeah he's a crafty fell yeah man I. think his time with uh Alex petta really. improved him too towards the very end of. his career when he started training with.

Alx because like there's something about. like having that dude in Camp with him. and he's on the Run for the middleweight. title that it all like came together and. you know some of his last fights were. some of his best the yamb bovich fight. you know I mean uh Yu the Yuri prasa. fight like there was [ __ ] great. fights man yeah he um he's harder to hit. he's harder to hit clean than I thought. cuz he turns his face a little rolls. with stuff yeah yeah a little a little. bit of that but it's like it's his hands.

right so he definitely learns from from. the people that he fights cuz he was. definitely doing a little John Jones to. me you know the little like G to kind of. kind of poke kind of poke his hands out. and he watch it a couple times like I. wanted to follow up with some shots with. some combos but the way he was like. blocking he's like going like this or. like putting his elbow up like this and. kind of like poking his fingers like. jibing his fingers like towards my like. face so yeah that's a weird gray area. right the.

you know cuz John poked a lot of people. in the eyes yeah you know I'm sure he. didn't mean to do it but that style of. doing it like that of having the hands. out especially when you're as long as. John it's a you know it's a very trick. it's it's a very gray area you're not. supposed to do that yeah no you're not. supposed to do it but it's done it's. done it's done it's done quite a bit you. know especially like if when if you see. somebody get hit with something like. solid and they start to like kind of get. crowded want to get some space or they.

want to try to really keep you from. coming for it that's the first thing. they do yeah what could be done about. that though the eye pokes the only thing. that I think is a change of the gloves. they have to figure out something to. make a better glove that doesn't. encourage your hands to be open you know. I mean we talked about this before but. Trevor whitmann um you know a gai's. trainer he's got a way better glove he. he he makes his own material Onyx he he. makes his own gloves and shin pants and. they're [ __ ] topnotch but he made a. better glove and I don't know why the. UFC is not using it I don't know what's.

going on I don't know if they have to. get it approved by the commissions I. don't know what the deal is but it's a. far superior glove does it affect the. grappling it doesn't but it it keeps. your hand curved like the natural state. of it is to have your hand at a curved. position versus open where the UFC. gloves you you put those on your hand. wants to be open and you have to kind of. close it and tighten it down with with. his gloves it starts out in a folded. position like it's much easier so even. if you like extending your hand you. would extend it like what you would if.

you had a tie glove on boxing glove on. right you know I just think there's got. to be something there so many [ __ ] I. pokes you guys both poked each other. that fight accidentally the only. difference is when I poked him in the. eye it helped him all right cuz I cuz. that knee that knee I caught him with. right in the sternum right before that. if if I actually am able to put the. frame on him like I want to he's eating. a head kick you know what I mean so so. yeah same me whenever I poke whenever he.

poked me in the eye though I was on his. ass I was on his ass I think I just. landed like uppercut yeah I just landed. like a uppercut I was right after the. little weave the little weave. sequence smooth how many times you. watched it how many times you watched it. I watched it a few times I watched it a. few times I was just uh it was this one. little sequence in the beginning at the. beginning at the towards the end of the. the first round where it was just I. remember it happening in the fight but I.

wanted to see how it looked on camera. and it was it was all right pretty. smooth it was all right oh listen it's a. was a very good performance it it was. very you were very crafty that was the. the thing about the fight that I really. enjoyed is like watching your setups and. all your faints and luring them in and. the way you're moving in and out like it. was very because I had seen all that in. other fights but um with all the stakes. on the line in Brazil fighting for the. title and I think you were at your best.

I really do yeah man I I rise to the. occasion I really lock in like you know. I understand I understand the situation. I understand the most so that's why I. work so hard to get to it and then I. trust the work that I put in you know so. at that point it's just all right do. what you do every day everything your. pacing you you just was so smart about. when to hit the gas you know when when. to like just like give them looks and. and catch your breath and it was just. phenomenal man nothing surprised me like. um nothing surprised me in that fight.

cuz everything like you know he's been. that's the thing about being around for. a long time right there's so much film. on you you know I mean people people. watch your habits then you know after. you've been fighting for so long people. can see when you stop evolving right so. they can see like all right this is what. he does you know and then that's where. it comes in like all right this is what. we know he's going to do this is what. we're going to do uh in place of this. you know then we get Anthony Smith in. and he's like hey there's some things. that he does that surprise me and our. fight I realize he did this and these.

are some things I would have done. differently that you know like what kind. of things did he do that surprise. Anthony um his grip I think he said his. grip the way uh way how strong he how. hard it was to break his like um to. break his grip risk control yeah so. instead of so instead of trying to fight. his grip fight like the uh fight like. the under Hooks and fight like the. positioning you right so like uh a. couple times he got his hands clasped. behind my up under my butt if you notice. I didn't I didn't fight his grip I.

wasn't fighting his grip I started. fighting at his elbows I started. fighting at his shoulders you know what. I mean just other other other things. away from where his strengths were and. then that um that trip that trip that he. got me down with in the fifth um Smith. had told me about that so whenever he. did it so whenever he actually did it he. showed me about I was like a was slick. so I when so I actually feeling it it. was like all right yeah it was slick but. it's like all right I know what to do. bang I lay here St that's why I that's I. don't panic none of that just chill and.

go through go through what I've been. doing everything everything we worked on. was was that no your takedown defense. was amazing too because there was. sometimes especially in the first round. he got in pretty deep on you he just. shucked it all off yeah I think that's. why he uh kind of kind. of he wasn't able to really fight and. try to turn into a scramble cuz I wasn't. going to allow him I wasn't going to. allow him to turn into a Scramble for a. takedown so whenever he did shoot in. just met with hard with hard frames.

whenever I was hitting those hip those. hip pumps those hip pumps were hard you. know so immediately HP bump put a frame. for him to fight through you know if. you're going to get this Tak down it's. going to it's going to cost you a lot to. get it right you know so that was pretty. much the game plan Mak him do that and. make him work and then whenever we um. while we at range touch him up then you. did that yeah when you woke up in the. morning the next day was it like what. the the [ __ ] did that really happen you.

think I went to sleep Joe you think I. went to sleep. Joe no time for. sleep and I dozed off for maybe. like we were we were up for we were up. till like maybe like 11 11:30 I was like. we should probably take a nap or. something get some get get some sleep I. think like um I went I went to my room I. laid down I just like kind of laid there. you know I didn't really sleep did you.

lay there next to the Belt yeah that's. how they got that picture that picture. of me uh laying with the belt eventually. uh I like I dozed off for maybe like an. hour hour and a half like maybe this. like a couple was like a couple hours. after after we had our everybody wanted. to go lay down and everything I doze off. for maybe like an hour hour and a half. after sitting up for a while and uh I. woke up and like they were all like up. on the roof so we just kind of went up. on the roof and little bar up there and. stuff and chill just hung out yeah new. world yeah you're in a new world yeah.

bro it's it's crazy you know but it's I. don't know there it. is yeah yeah I was sleep I eventually. passed out and then yeah they got what. was your experience like in Brazil did. you like it there yeah yeah actually. actually beautiful great time yeah it. was beautiful nice [ __ ] people nice. people great. weather beautiful sites great food. beautiful sites yeah all kinds of sites.

right different kind of s make you look. at sites a little different yeah like. wow there's some genetics down here bro. what it's crazy you know beautiful yeah. beautiful beautiful great people man. it's it's a wild place to be too because. when you think about you know Brazil and. the UFC and jiujitsu it's all from there. I mean without Brazil the UFC would not. be what it is I mean who knows if it.

would have ever even happened or if it. happened way way later and if it wasn't. for Hy and Gracie it wasn't for the. Gracie family was it for Brazilian. jiu-jitsu we wouldn't be here yeah no. man it's crazy crazy that one family can. have such an impact on the martial arts. World hey it had an impact on me uh Kyer. Gracie the guy in my in my corner that's. uh ho Gracie's nephew oh wow so you know. that's that's where that's uh that's who. that's who our my our our head. instructor uh under our under our great.

under our train under our Jiu-Jitsu. program that's uh that's what we've been. training under for I think he we joined. under here maybe like about 10 years ago. when did you what was the first UFC that. you saw how old were you the first UFC I. saw was the Anderson Silva vers Forest. Griffin I think I was like 19 I was 18 I. was 18 yeah that was a good one to see. cuz Anderson was a wizard back then he. was a wizard that's what got me that's. what got me hooked you know what I'm.

saying like that's what really that's. really what what started the path. towards towards all of this because. like so I've been in a lot of fights. growing up right so like I'm like. growing up I've been a I've been in. different I fought big small short fast. all like all these dudes right and um. sitting there watching. that and seeing what he did to him it. was was.

like. okay can I do. [Laughter]. that and if I and right now well I can't. do that I definitely don't want to run. into somebody that can do that right you. know. I'm I think I should probably become one. of those guys that can do that you know. when people talk about goats you know. and I do think Jon Jones is a great. argument for the greatest of all time. just based on his record but I feel like. there's moments in guys careers and.

those moments kind of get diluted when. you see later performances that aren't. as good maybe when they're older but. when Anderson was in his. prime I he was a magician there was. something about him man he he was like. un he had this Unstoppable Aura he was. so at peace and so calm and he would. smile at guys and you knew he was. [ __ ] them up he was [ __ ] everybody. up and it it was the way he was doing it. he was doing it like it was magic you. know what when he knocked out Forest it. was like Forest didn't have a chance in.

the world of hitting him he was just. waiting for the spot moving backwards. yeah man that was it was I never seen. anything like it just a whoop whoop Yeah. Bang Yeah when he was on when he was at. his best like the vtor Belford fight. during those times in his prime man he. like when he first got into the UFC when. he lit up Chris leben I was like oh boy. everybody's [ __ ] everybody in this. division [ __ ] and it was just one of.

those times where it was like you saw a. guy was like total Next Level who had. just entered into the sport and it. changed everybody's idea of like what. was possible with striking yeah 100% uh. he definitely definitely did that for me. I um I used still have this whenever I. first started like my amateur like early. on amateur like my first fights my first. I think I made my amateur debut back. like I think it was like March 6 2010 or. something like that so like uh uh um I. used to watch I used to have an Sila.

highlight video just roll through like. of all his fights and things and I don't. know something about just watching that. video made me feel like all right like. just watching greatness made me believe. that I could be great you know so I. um I justed watch it before every fight. and I was just going in annihilating. people yeah um actually my second my. second amateur fight was against my god. brother right really yeah so he um he.

actually had brought brought after I. watched the Anderson Sila fight he had a. fight he did like an MMA fight like he. came back he got s had the video so you. know seen him like like you know it's. like it was like all right it can. actually be done it's actually possible. like it's actually a scene for it around. here then that's when Ian uh found my. own gym that's when I found my coaches. like my coaches that that are uh that. are here with me um and I started. training with them and I'd say like. maybe.

like 4 months later 4 and a half months. later yeah about 4 months later I end up. fighting him on like a week. notice did you guys have a conversation. yeah whenever they hit me up and asked. me about it I was like all right let me. hit him up I'm talk to him about it and. he was like yeah you know he was like. it's just it's just a sport it's it's. how it's what we gotten into it you know. it's part of the game you know um of. course now I feel differently about it. just for the Le fact of like we ain't.

went making no money right you know what. I'm saying so it was. like n now it would have been a no but. I'm I'm just now getting into it I'm. trying to get the experience I can I'm. trying to I mean right whatever so we. did and I end up winning in like like I. think it was like 40 something seconds. and then I. uh end up choking this guy out after. that in like 30 seconds like so I was so. when I came out I was I was just. whooping. people then uh the my fourth amateur.

fight was a title fight and it was a lot. like the glove toer fight bro I whooped. this dude's ass bro. like f rounds like his like his lip was. like almost inside out his eye was like. had was like gash above his eye was. completely. closed but he would not stop coming. coming after me bro he would not stop.

coming at me just just steady just like. trying to hit me and then like uh I. think I got. tired but they um but like I think like. the first round the first round I had. him down pining a full Mount pounding. him like pounding him out and they. stopped around like a minute early whoa. yeah was he a HomeTown guy yeah oh no. yeah so he was like uh like yeah trying. to save him and there no commission you. got to think there's no there was no.

commission back in Michigan back in the. day you know what I mean so it was just. like basically like guys just ran out. venues ran out a cage and put on. fights and so like yeah bro it was it. was it was then the next round I think I. caught him with a head kick and they. stopped at a minute early again you know. then I end up eventually getting tired. that's why like uh amateur wise like it. eventually it was just like oh it's a no. contest but I actually got caught in a. guillotine at the end of that and like. after I got tired like I think it's like.

maybe like the fourth fifth round or. something like that I got caught in a. guillotine uh cuz I just tried to shoot. on him I just tried to shoot like I'm. tired all right I'm I'm going hold him. down catch my breath and then you know. but I didn't finish the takedown you. know like it was it was not not my best. work Jo not my best work and uh yeah I. got caught in a g team did you you. started your training with just MMA is. that the first training You' ever done. you done any karate or anything when you. were younger when I was a kid I did.

Taekwondo I did like a little Taekwondo. whenever I was a kid but most of it was. just like like stuff my dad showed me. like you know what I mean just about. like how to how to how to hold tight how. to roll with punches and things like. that and then uh like my uncles like my. uncle showed me things like I was always. into martial arts you know so um my. brother the uh that I uh that passed. away before I uh before I before I went. pro he he was in the martial arts like I.

was you know so like you know he would. he would he would hear some things and. he was really smart you know so he hear. some things you see some techniques he. show me and we just kind of dialogue. about things you know then like you know. you have like movies like The Matrix and. stuff like that so like you obviously. like obviously the stuff wasn't real. right but like you but even in even in. like some of that like they they mimic. certain real martial arts you know like. Wing Chong is a real thing maybe not. like the most effective thing but parts. of it are effective you know and that's.

kind of like our thing like all what. parts of what martial arts are effective. so we was already like essentially kind. of. in playing with martial arts without. even like really like knowing you know. so um it's just an interest though Tony. Ferguson uses Wing Chun you see he does. a lot of Wing Chun dummies you know he. he practices with the dummy but you see. it in fight sometimes like he'll catch. he'll catch a wrist use an elbow or. he'll catch a wrist and come with a.

Punch Yeah it's there's something to it. there's something there's certain parts. of every martial art that can be. effective as long as you combine it with. the stuff that we know is effective yeah. right there're just some that are more. effective like boxing wrestling. kickboxing you know um but if you can. have strong fundamentals in those and. then be able to sprinkle in some of the. things like some people do that's what. that's why you get the crazy spinning. attacks from some dudes and like like. Rodriguez who figh this weekend. different different techniques you know.

those are just different um different. arts and then he's just picking which. one out of which bag that he wants to go. like spinning kicks and like te kicks. those are more like karate M you know um. but they're more generalized now in. MMA um leg kicks that's a myay thae. thing you know um calf kicks and yeah Mo. type jab a jab is really more boxing B. you know um but it's effective in all.

more more forms of fighting so it's just. like that did you so you started like. hardcore training you were 18 around. there so that was like when you really. just started learning everything so. learning everything together wrestling. jiujitsu kickboxing all of it together. right yeah I started out with jiujitsu. and and uh in Muay Thai basically and. then like how long into it were you like. I think I could be a world.

champion oh see that's the that's the. thing about me being arrogant when I got. into it originally I thought I could be. a world champion you know but it's just. like you never really know but you it's. like you think about like when you were. a kid and you can believe you could do. anything that's the type of belief that. I have you know what I mean it's it's. just never changed you know like um I'm. realistic you know what I mean about. things like all right if I can't but or. how how much I want something and things. like that but as far as like believing. what I can do I believe I can do. anything you know so it's like um.

whenever I stepped in it was like yeah. world champion beat because whenever I. came in although I watched Anders Sila. and I was in allwe of him I wanted to. know can I whoop his ass so that's when. my joury when my MMA Journey started. that's what that was that was me chasing. Anderson Silva to see if I can I started. fighting at 185 really when I was 18 I. was fighting. 185 cuz you're not like you're you're. not real heavy for 205 me what do you. walk around at when you training when.

I'm walk when I walk around when. training maybe like 2:30 2 between 2:30. 230 that's not like some of those guys. get big yeah I mean I can't I can't get. up to around like 240 245 that's around. what I was whenever they called me for. the Glover fight you don't think you. could make 185 again I probably could. champ champ for the right for the right. fight CH that would be a good fight or. champ champ champ champ champ champ oh. heavyweight too why not why you can't. make welterweight [ __ ] hza Hamza I.

don't know how the [ __ ] he makes it no. when you're around that dude like in. between fights you're like what the [ __ ]. is going on you ain't there's not a. world where you weigh 170 lbs I don't. think I've ever seen him in person he's. a big file big fellow he's big he's. Johnny Walker though I don't know how. Johnny Walker makes 205 he's huge he's. huge he's huge and like it was like most. dudes that are big like tall like that. they' be like skinny where's he skinny. at right he's big he's just a big dude. yeah he looks like a heavyweight when. you dropped him dude that was one of the.

craziest Knockouts it was like. Timber at first I was like I don't know. man it was just like from from my from. my point of view like I slip I slip bang. I felt the I felt the clean connection. and then he um but he he had swung too. so like you know I kind of dipped I kind. of dip back and then when I look when I. look all I see is his hands back now to. me I know that's like a yeah when his. hands go up like I'm like okay that's. like a that's like a he's hurt type. thing that's why I just load it up to.

just follow up you know I'm not thinking. like oh he's out right there and there. it's funny because I've heard people. like not believe in your power and I. don't understand it I've have con. conversations with people that oh he. doesn't hit that hard I'm like what the. [ __ ] are you talking about the [ __ ] are. you talking about you're watching people. fly across the ring and go unconscious. like how are you how do you think he's. not hidden hard like what it's weird. when some people just decide that. someone is not as good. and like I'm seeing something I'm.

watching you fight and I'm like this. this dude's clever like this this dude's. dangerous he he catches chins like you. know how to catch chins you have like a. sense of like where they're at where. they're going to go and then you find. them I'm like that's a that's a unusual. talent and I was some people like oh he. doesn't hit that hard he didn't hit. Johnny that I'm like what the [ __ ] are. you talking about watch that what. happened there that was that's about as. clean as you can l in shot especially to. the temple M you know um. I I understand I understand fighting you.

know um whenever I was sitting learning. and being taught things I not only. wanted to know how to do what I wanted. to know why how like I mean the the the. physics behind it you know and um and in. doing that I I understand the fighting. and angles and things like that on a on. a different level you know um it's. like how can I explain this. the three things that I know that I that.

I that I know that I I can do that that. I see in constant in fights that most. people don't do I understand where I am. in the fight as far as positional wise. all right where do I understand what's. happening in the fight what my options. are and what they're trying to do you. know and it's just like a it's just. almost like embedded into like my senses. to where my body reacts and it does the. things like naturally you know know what. I mean so it's. like that's why like that that part in.

that part in the fight where I just. float and just and just move and just. like it's like did I see what he was. throwing honestly no but you kind of. knew where it was going but I understood. based off of where it pun what's next my. B like it's just it's crazy especially. when I'm locked in it's like one of the. dopest feelings in the world that I wish. like I could like plug like a wire from. myself into other so they could like. just just see it maybe from my eyes or. just how I'm feeling it or or whatever.

but it's just like that's how I knew I. was really good you know um I think it. was before the Santos fight we were in. the back or we were doing pad work and I. was just flowing you know and I was. feeling good and I'm hitting the pads. I'm like all right and I'm now sometimes. whenever I hit pads I'll like kind of. put myself at a at a weird angle and. just just to try try different things. you know just landay here to get here. get to where I want to get here and like. it just hit me like there's nothing in a. fight that I can't do and there's.

nothing that I can't do in a fight at. the highest level and like it was like. I've been working head down working so. long just adding to my bag adding to my. bag and I never really actually looked. up and looked at what I had and in that. moment that was one of the times that I. actually did and I realized like I'm. ready to be the best in the world you. know what I'm saying for real that's. awesome I I felt that that you know. what's inspiring about that there's some. young kid that was just like you that's. probably watching that fight and.

watching what you did and like. practicing it and [ __ ] around in his. living room and [ __ ] around with his. friends and it's like I think I can do. this too you know like your success will. inspire someone the same way Anderson. Silva inspired you yeah man that's is. that amazing yeah it is that's amazing. and like having that ability to see. those great Fighters too is so huge for. young upand cominging guys because. having someone who's just coming up who. see you or having you know those tapes.

you could watch Fedor and watch Anderson. and watch all the the fighters that were. in their primes like you you you get. this sense of what's possible and then. you go and try to incorporate that into. your own game and it just makes. everybody better yeah man I was hungry. for evolution so like I had a period. where like I just wanted to learn and. just get be able to do like like just. flow through flow like you know what I. mean mean like like like I don't know if. you ever been in a fight or been like in.

training you just flowing like you. sparring you just flowing you just like. feeling good you do exactly you know I. just wanted to add to that like being. able to do it in more positions and more. more steps more more angles you know I. just wanted to do so I was legitimately. renting the the fights I've rented a lot. of fights from like I think it was. Family Video they had a bunch of they. had a bunch of UFC so like I'm I'm. renting those uh I'm pulling up YouTube. uh YouTube boxing videos you know some.

kickboxing some rest so like any little. things that I can try to learn it I can. see like all right that was nice that. was effective and then I could start to. do it and then try to turn it flip it. into my own you know and bro like that. was one of the things that was hard. coming up like like whenever people like. oh you can't do this you can't do this. it's like bro my bag is deep like my bag. is deep and it's just now it's I just. get to show it now yeah you know what I. mean now it's cuz now it's just about.

winning and and still the thing is about. you like how old are you now 31 31 start. training at 18 like you're still getting. better like this is this is not like you. just honing your skills and keeping them. tight like no you're you're constantly. improving yeah and that's not a lot of. time a training you know you really. become like Elite at what you're doing. you know with whatever the the 10,000. hour rule is you appli that like you're.

you're like still getting better yeah. and I still had 10 I still had years I. had years where I had to take off you. know what I mean where I had to do other. things and stuff like that I me wrong I. always had periods when in those in know. and it's still in on time a little bit. where I did make it to the gym a few. times but like yeah for it hasn't been a. whole solid 13 years and now that you're. the champ like more resources are. available to you more time you know and.

then also there's the confidence that. comes from being a champ like most guys. when they become champ then they hit. another level they hit another level. once they're champ yeah it just just I. did feel that a little something. different just and just in how the way. it happened like. um everything went went how how we. thought it was going to go you know I. did think I was going to have to deal. deal with some adversity he so he he. landed some shots you you know but I'm. good at rolling shots good at rolling.

off with shots you know that's why. sometimes you see I get hit and I don't. give any space that's cuz you may you. may have touched me but you didn't hit. me right you know what I mean so it's. like um not a lot of guys that have the. SK not have that have the skill and the. understanding that I have are actually. willing to just get in and fight too you. know cuz end at the end of the day you. you you push it you push you push that. envelope enough to where it's like all. right the the thing is now you have to. fight this I'm good with that you know.

and I have fun with that too you know. it's just I don't know man I'm just. built for this well that's what it takes. you want to be a world champion you have. to have that crazy belief in yourself. like you had in the very beginning you. got to put in that time and you got to. have that hunger and desire you got it. all yeah that's a beautiful thing man. top of the world Jamal Hill man this the. fun man I I just it's just fun being in. there man I just have fun now being in. there. just I I feel like I'm just locked into.

something just like different I don't. know like whenever for anybody like you. know man listening or whatever just like. it's like for me it's like whenever you. doing something like you really good at. like maybe you ever seen like like back. in I want to say back at high school but. we we might we might had I say we might. had different experiences in high school. I was in high school horses like uh like. typing have you ever seen like like. somebody that can type like like. straight up like this I can't type like.

that you know what I'm saying but. so but there was a time where I did take. typ in class where I did kind of get it. so like I can understand like it's like. when you really good at something when. you're really good at something and. you're just doing it and it just comes. natural to you maybe not a lot of other. people can do it like that's how I feel. whenever I'm fighting I don't feel like. anybody else can really do what I do. well that's a big part of being a great. Champion you you have to have that. belief that you are the one you know and.

it's not an easy Road it's a the. craziest lifestyle Choice like as a. professional person like decide I'm. going to be a professional fighter and a. professional fighter and mix martial. arts it's it's one of the craziest. choices you can make in life but if you. can pull it off and if you can get to. that world championship level and they. strapped that how much do that thing. weigh God got some weight it's got some. weight to it that's why they put that. thing around you. like.

yeah um when you look back at fights. like that that you had in the octagon. and you learned from does any fight like. where you like made a big leap does any. fight like stand out for you. um like what about the Paul Craig fight. yeah well the Paul Craig fight honestly. the thing that came from that is. realization that you're not better than. you're not better than the game you're. not Invincible respect you know I mean. respect the craft and respect what. you're doing cuz that's what that was in.

that fight it was I don't it was. basically I don't care what you do. regardless I'm not worried about nothing. all I got to do is show up and I win. that's really how I felt I felt like all. I had to do is show up and I was going. to win and I paid for that you know um I. went I like he didn't he didn't pull me. down I went down with him willingly you. know with him already having my arm. locked and everything like that then I'm. like all right watch this start working. the legs start but that was the one way. he had to win yeah and I gave it to him.

he's he's so dangerous off his back too. it's such a different level off his back. but I I understand that but that's the. thing though I didn't care I didn't. respect that at all you know what I'm. saying and that's what that was what the. lesson was for me to learn there take. from that respect the game give every. treat everybody like they're the. absolute best in the world at what they. do at everything he's a good guy to. learn from too because his level on the. ground is above and beyond most people's.

above and beyond his level off his back. I mean he tapped analiia with like one. second to go yeah I mean he's something. special off his back if you that guy is. one of the best Grapplers at 205 in the. world he's so [ __ ] good like I think. Paul Craig could he I think if he. dedicated himself he could be a world. champion at legit like straight. grappling oh yeah a thousand he's that. good he's that good when he locks. triangles on people like oh [ __ ] yeah. it's a triangle I mean locked onto my.

arm he was strong as [ __ ] yeah his gra. he grabbs you like desperately like it's. almost like complete desperate like you. about to grab like how you would grab a. rope when you about to fall off a cliff. or some [ __ ] how he grabb my. arm like like you don't want to down. that's how he grabbed my arm then. whenever I whenever I like literally. whenever I base and I try to pull my arm. if you my arm didn't move at all like. there was no wiggle you know how do it. you [ __ ] none of that there was no.

movement whatsoever yeah well some guys. when they get to the ground they don't. want to go 100% because they don't want. to burn themselves out but Paul Craig. like he could close it off he's so. confident in his ability to close it off. he just cinches everything down right. away yeah yeah I would and that kind of. that kind of took me by surprise I. thought he was going to be more like of. a technical like all this The Next Step. this step this step this and that try to. set up bro he was strong and then he was. still doing those things so did you.

leave that fight thinking [ __ ] I got to. learn how to do that off my back no not. at all no because I I feel I I didn't. feel like oh I oh my ground game was. [ __ ] or anything like that I just felt. like I [ __ ] up by go doing things on. his terms I let him dictate the fight I. could have could I beat Paul Craig on. the ground even then even that night yes. I could have if we had done thing fult. the fight on my terms you know I'm. fighting him I make him spraw. desperately now bang I make it hard on.

him bang land some shots on him you know. um and control from there you know not. letting him lock onto my arm and then go. down to the ground with him cuz when we. hit the ground it didn't it there was. like for him to pull me to the ground. for you to pull somebody to the ground. you don't know how this person is going. to land right he doesn't know how he's. going to land and there creates there a. certain space that's created with that. because I willingly went down with him. that was not the case I fell down into. position just like he did and he was.

able to lock even tighter on my arm yeah. you know just like little like little. things like that like little small. things that I don't think anybody else. really thinks about you know that are. huge and I noticed them and I adjust. them that's why it was like it seemed. like it's like Leaps and Bounds but. really it's just a small adjustment. small realization small adjustment don't. do this back yeah did when when that. happened in that that fight like we were. worried about your arm mhm like your arm. got [ __ ] up how bad was it I was it.

was dislocated it was a clean. dislocation no Tor intendance no broken. bone nothing oh that's great yeah it was. basically best case best Cas scenario. for sure because best case scenario you. you did you ever watch um um when U. Frank me uh broke Tim silia's arm yeah. snapped it at the forearm like oh [ __ ]. like that's worst case scenario I. thought it was broken whenever I was in. the kid so that's why I'm not like. everybody in the world like I thought it.

was broken whenever I sat back it was. almost like a line you could see like. you know I mean where it was look like. just like a break across you know um but. I guess not that was just the arm that's. was my my elbow and the bone just. hanging out on the other side oh Jesus. yeah so it was and then like I was like. like yeah I was good I went and stood up. and everything and I heard you got on my. coach saying that yall they needed to. get me me up out of here all right that. was that was what did what did they say.

my coach he was like oh you need to Y. need to get him the FI W I thought it. was broken to get him to the hospital. look I gotta I had I had to get I had to. pay his respect for for everything for. now me going and standing up for the. decision that was me paying my respect. back to the game and then for you know. just I had to do it it was just. something that I that I that I owe that. I ow was at a game to do so you know and. they they did they did want to they did. want to to immediately like but n I'm. like no I'm going to go ahead I'm going. stand here you know something I had to. do you know I had to I had to feel that.

I had to go through that you know and uh. that's kind of like what that was even. me sitting on the ground. like all right that was me that was me. realizing me accepting account that was. me taking accountability there it is. right there yeah it doesn't man that's. that's a a strong perspective that you. have that you just accepted that you you. took that loss Like A Champion you know. that's one of the hardest things to do. is to take a loss with Grace take a loss. with dignity yeah you know and and and. know that this is part of the learning. process you win or you learn and. sometimes you learn when you win and.

sometimes you lose and it's a big lesson. yeah yeah that's exactly and that's. exactly how I approach it I agree a th%. and uh from that I just took that and. just learned from it it's funny how you. see like MMA math just doesn't work it. just doesn't work because like you you. see Johnny Walker fights Paul Craig and. takes him out early Jimmy Jimmy cre beat. Paul Craig beat Paul Craig and then we. went and had we went and had our fight. that was the main thing about I was like. I was like uh I was happy about getting.

the crew fight because he had beat Paul. Craig so it was like all right if he. feels his comle anyways getting into the. ground you know and things like that and. I really I really wanted to go in and. dominate dominate in that fight but I. wanted to do it under my terms I wasn't. just going to go in and let him just. grapple me we were going to hit the. ground we going to hit the ground under. my terms and um you know what happened. what happened happened and then yeah the. Johnny Walker thing but the thing was. was um and you know Paul Paul Paul's.

solid bro me I mean anytime anytime me. and Paul in the same place he got he got. drinking the dinner on me always you. know um but the Vulcan fight Vulcan oir. fight uh exposed a lot you know it. exposed a lot um and it exposed that. that that that my man's got to he got to. learn how to is wrestling getting you to. the ground and then and Trust in his. standup and I honestly I think Paul. Craig has good pretty good standup if.

whenever he if he's confident he. actually trust it's just something. whenever he gets in there he just don't. trust or believe in it you're going to. take some hits you know what I'm saying. but he don't he know he he's got to. trust in the technique while while still. you know what I mean understanding that. I think it comes from being a specialist. too sometimes cuz he's a specialist on. the ground yeah and so standup just. doesn't really feel like his thing. whereas you you're an overall guy you. know you're striking is your strong suit. but you you you do everything you don't.

have I mean your stand up also every. fight start standing up which is just a. big Advantage for the striker right. especially if you got good takedown. defense you know like for a Grappler. there's this this thing where you've got. to get this fight to the ground and. you're standing with a guy and he just. keeps chopping away at your legs and. hitting you and chopping away and every. day your power bar keeps going down. you're like yeah I but that's but that's. the thing though just because of the. sheer size of Johnny Walker I figured. that'd be a hard that would be a hard.

thing hard matchup for for Paul cuz I. know Paul wants to get it to the ground. right and I know Johnny has explosive. nasty power I mean look what he did to. my arm just for me catching a kick yeah. he did that that wasn't him throwing a. kick and me blocking it that was him. throwing a kick and I just I was like I. just like caught it like just barely. just barely tapped it and my arm swoll. up you know what I mean like dude's got. some power he's got crazy power dud got. some crazy power and when he knocked out. KH round Tre I was like Jesus yeah short.

elbow that that was the one fight that I. was worried about if you actually look. whenever we uh whenever he whenever I. first hit him and I hit him with those. shots and he tried to grab me tried to. push me against the cage all the way. across you see immediately where my. hands. went right to the B hands went. immediately to the bicep n we're not. we're not doing yeah we're not doing. this no it's day he's knocked he's. knocked a few people out with that I. believe yeah that's like one of his.

that's one of the things he's nice with. just bow a little short so dangerous. that was that was crazy too that was I. mean look how he does it so tight boom I. mean amazing he uses he's using leverage. he's using a leverage of his height so. he's coming down he's he's just heavy. and he toling he just drops his weight. when he did that celebration though and. dropped down and did the worm blew his. shoulder out I was like what happened I. remember I was interviewing I'm like is. your shoulder okay he's like no no it's.

not andrenaline was still pumping to so. he didn't know how bad it was crazy that. he did that on a celebration destroyed. his shoulder giant ass scar on his. shoulder now I mean I don't know how. much that affects him still if whether. or not he's okay you know cuz Fighters. they'll have like a thing where there's. forever they're that arms compromised. and they're still fighting and they're. still winning but they don't have full. power in that arm anymore yeah it's took. while for me to uh for my arm for my arm. to be all right yeah right there like.

fully fully all right crazy how that did. it that that falling down and doing the. worm did it like right there oh cuz I. slapped he slapped right there he. slapped he blew his [ __ ] left. shoulder out and now he's got a yeah. right there pop and now he's got a giant. [ __ ] scar on his left shoulder it's. being goofy yeah people have hurt. themselves doing some stupid [ __ ] who. did didn't. Terence Terence hurt himself dur. celebrating did he his.

debut his debut when he uh when he knock. when he knocked out uh when he knocked. out uh favola did he hurt himself bro he. jumped on the cage and hurt his knee oh. that's right that's right that's right. he blew his knee out hey we got we got. we should I think we got we might have. to do we might have to do a list of we. might have to. do might to do a list of that who uh. injuries during celebrations. look at that he's like ah I hurt my knee. that is so crazy that he did that that's. right I forgot about.

that yeah Terence mckin is a dangerous. Dude too yeah that's a guy who goes all. out quick he comes at you that guy comes. at you yeah he's just got to work a. little a little a little more finessa. cuz that flying knee the flying knee. that he gets caught with it's just like. um it's like a product of just of his. Instinct being just to wrestle you know. what I mean so whenever whenever they. charge they make a fast Mo they charge. towards him and it kind of gets his head. away he doesn't see first thing he.

thinks like all right he feels the. momentum coming in like Ben and mprod. doll yeah like that that instinct is. hard to shake it is yeah it is just got. of the Instinct of a specialist yeah for. work when you look at like the the. landscape and the light heavyweight. division like what fights are intriguing. for you right now. like intriguing and what way intriguing. like this this is a guy I want to get in. there with all right well that in that.

way like pretty much pretty much. everybody at the top present different. challenges you know everybody's their. own different challenge like uh I think. bovich would be a good uh good strike in. and mixup challenge mad's a good uh he's. a good he's a good mixup chall but I. think he's going to come more of a. heavier wrestling type um type thing. Year's a striking challenge so that be t. a flowing striking challenge at that cuz. he just flows. I'm good I'm good with flowing I like to. be creative and do things in FL he's so.

Herky jerky it's very unusual way he. moves he like everything's like his. hands are down he's switching stances. doing that but I understand that though. I understand that movement I understand. that that type of that type of fighting. you know just trying to be loose to be. fast be fast be it's like water be the. be water the whole thing like be water. is just trying to flow and crash you. know just be loose loose loose and then. bang crash and hit you know that's. that's essentially the same thing that. I'm doing you know um it's just I'm a.

little more technical you know I try to. stay a little more tight and I try to uh. I try to keep more options open for. myself I mean if that makes sense so has. the UFC given you some sort of a. timeline on when your first defense. would be no there I think it's kind of. hard for them to do that at the time. right right it's because Yuri's hurt. maked and Yan fought to a draw so they. don't like they I mean I don't really. see them get giving the title shot to. one over the other um rage is still hurt.

I believe uh you got you got Smith who. uh who hurt his leg and but. technically but he was supposed to be a. backup though yeah with you and Glover. right yeah but then he miss weight yeah. which is the I mean as a backup man I. don't want to make weight you know like. Mak big he's a big dude yeah he's a big. boy for him to make 205 is probably. quite a struggle he probably should have. gave him more time too you know soon as. like soon as you're like oh this is the.

fight and then you know you got him you. should backup fighter then I don't think. he knew until like a couple weeks later. so he didn't have as much time you know. yeah that's not good yeah so um so do. you think it'll probably be Yuri if Yuri. recovers in time if Yuri recovers in. time maybe July yeah that's what I want. International fight week yeah that's the. big one you I mean me he me you know con. Conor and Chandler yeah I think Conor.

and Chandler has to happen later than. that though really yeah because. um Connor has to enter the usada. training the the the testing pool so I. think that's six months I think you you. have to be in that testing pool for six. months before you can fight so we're in. February so I don't think July would. work you know I think I think it's going. to take a little bit more time than that. if I'm guessing I think think they have. to fight in like September or something. so here we are in February March April.

May June July August September September. 7 months I think I think he has to be in. the testing pool for six. months wait what you got to be you got. to be is it six it's either six it was. either six or more if it's more than six. that's crazy because they're hosting the. ultimate fighter together it makes sense. that they would try to set something up. a big fight for September October or. maybe even November. Madison Square Garden yeah that's a big. one it might be that one which makes.

sense well that's why it makes sense to. get sweet dreams in their International. fight week so be ready for Madison. Square guard the question is whether or. not Yuri can recover from catastrophic. shoulder injuries like that's a. catastrophic injury like he had major. shoulder surgery and I don't know. exactly the extent of the injury but I. know the UFC doctor said it was the. worst shoulder injury he had ever seen. which is a lot I mean that dude's seen a. lot of [ __ ] yeah so if he says that. that's a big pretty bad it's a big. [ __ ] deal so you know shoulders are.

very tricky it's such a weird joint it. moves in so many different ways that an. injury can you know you got to really. rehabilitate that correctly and it takes. a long time yeah I was coming off a I. was coming think I had a partial tear in. my. laburn after the Santos fight the second. round he actually dumped me he when he. got that taked down he kicked me on the. body he got that Tak down he dumped me. he actually dumped me on my shoulder M. so he actually he did some he did a. little bit of damage so I got understand.

how how how much it actually takes for a. shoulder to like fully fully heal did. you have to get shoulder surg I didn't. have to get surgery I didn't have to get. surgery or anything done on it but it. took a while for it to for it to Hill. just Rehabilitation right did you do. stem cells no I just did Physical. Therapy if you ever get in that. situation again get a hold of me all. right we'll connect you to some stem. cell places know a lot a lot of guys are. going um uh just went down to Colombia a. lot of guys are going to do that uh bio. accelerator place down in Colombia and.

getting stem cells it it'll really help. you recovery like especially for. injuries it cuts the time down I just. talking some I think somebody just came. up to me and and off me they said they. got a place down somewhere down. south um we have a place we work with in. Austin we have a place place we work. with in Austin that helps a lot of a lot. of guys come into Austin and get stem. cells here and that's that's a great. option too if you want to stay in the. states too but they can do stuff in. other countries that they can't do in.

the United States in Colombia and in um. there's a great place the CPI in Tijana. it's a great place in Panama that Dr. Neil Reen runs and the the laws there. are different the laws of the United. States for whatever reason you can make. all sorts of reasons for why they they. can't do it none of them are good but. they they have a lock down on what. you're allowed to do here in the United. States even though it's highly effective. and even though you're dealing with. injured people people that really should. have every option available to them. especially when some of these options.

have Pro proven to be. effective yeah 100% I um I'm I'm just. now learning like all the things that. are proper things and things like that. to take care of my body that's another. that's one of the unfortunate things. about coming in late and learning things. late you so um yeah that's definitely. one of the things I'm probably I end up. end up into you know cuz it's just part. of the job you're going to get banged up. you going to have you going to have. things happen to you and uh yeah you're. in the destroying bodies business right.

right right but yeah though uh on the. main thing though like Yuri Yuri ideally. would be the fight that I would want. yeah just because I think that's that's. the uh that's the that's the better cell. and that's the fight that I think a lot. more people want to see um I don't think. people are really big on watching mag. fight right now um he's good he's a good. fighter he's a he's a great Fighter the. problem with a fight like that a fight. like that is like puts a bad taste in. people's mouth and it's not his fault. it's just the way they match up and then.

the the you know the the decision the. fact it was a draw which I watched it. again I still don't think it was a draw. you know it was very close you have one. I had anive winning because I thought. anive won the first round although it's. very close I thought he did too yeah but. then um you got to give credit to bovich. for those kicks cuz he had [ __ ] that. leg up bad both of them and it's he just. go Shin to Shin with dudes he just goes. boom let's try it out let's go Shin to. Shin let's see how you feel and next.

thing you know your legs don't work like. they used to before that dude's dense I. mean you see the power that guy carries. he must be dense as [ __ ] I bet his bones. are just like [ __ ] wood you know he's. just dense and when he goes crack Shin. to Shin with guys like that's crazy. confidence yeah just kicking another. dude in The Shins you know there's a. dude named malapet this I think it's a. technique to how he does it oh for sure. yeah for sure he the spot on his yeah. but it's just very impressive that he.

does that and you know he he's just so. good at Muay Thai and so good in in that. fight at doing that but then the. wrestling he got he got taken down by. the wrestling yeah but that's a great. adjustment by maged I mean he's he's a. real world class fighter yeah he is I. think he's I think he's legit oh those. guys from dagistan that is a hard spot. in the world man there's some [ __ ]. Killers coming out of that spot. just I mean they hungry hungry they got. a lot to fight for they got a lot to.

fight for and a lot of those guys I. think they have this advantage in that. they're very religious so with uh their. Islamic religion they don't drink they. don't party no girls no nothing just. food and training and fights and that. Focus I know Jamal's like. what where would I. be where would I be yeah if only if only. yeah I don't know man I think you got to. enjoy yourself a little bit I think so.

too yeah I mean a lot of the greats. enjoyed themselves I mean hey I did all. that [ __ ] I look look at me. now Look at Me. Now bang head. shot yeah yeah look at me now shout out. to Leon yeah shout out to Leon that's a. great fight huh the rematch yeah oo. that's intriguing let's see Leon bro. Leon is dangerous for the same reason I. like I feel like that make me great um. he knows what to do when to do it mhm.

now yeah he's he's like some of the. things he does the way he times it and. is like on point it's like an. instinct he's good bro oh he he's really. he's really good he's so good he's one. of the most impressive guys I've ever. seen hitting pads you see Leon hit pads. yeah what pull up a video of Leon. working the pads his technique is so. sharp so sharp in the the fluidity of.

his combinations you're like that's a a. world class Striker and that setup that. he did with Camaro he shows him the hand. and then lands that left high kick the. kick was textbook bro textbook textbook. textbook textbook perfect I mean you. watch him with his his movement and his. his Pad work see that's just. understanding where they be he's just. that little palm right there that's just. understand checking the checking rot. like just checking understanding where. to be he's one of the most smooth guys.

that's ever fought in the UFC in terms. of like yeah combinations and striking. and just everything he does is perfect. his his technique on in his standup is. just perfect and then the fact kamaru. down took him down the first round got. full Mount his he was on his back for. what yeah for like about 2 minutes yeah. dominated that round on the ground like. who the [ __ ] saw that coming nuts yeah. it's nuts and you know it's going to be. interesting to see and now also he's.

felt kamaro he's felt that wrestling. felt that power and you know had a. situation where he was down in that. fight and realized that he had won the. first round so his adjustments that have. to be made and then Camaro knowing that. he had the fight one if he just avoided. that kick he had the fight one he was. ahead on the cards that's the thing. though right that's going to give Leon a. weapon to actually have to threaten. because he's going to have to respect. that kick yeah so that's going to that's. already change in the fight yep and he's. got to have to respect everything else. too cuz Leon it's not just K he's got.

hands he's got knees he's got elbows. he's got everything he's got and he's. got the fluidity of his combinations. it's just it's the best in in the. division yeah he's sharp man very and. then but you got Camaro who's a [ __ ]. nightmare man Camaro especially coming. up that's one of the things that I. remember and I I I talked about it. frequently I was like no one is calling. that guy's name no one everybody talking. about I want to fight this guy I want to. fight no one said and then kamaro Usman. if you're looking for a fight no no no.

no no there was none of that there was. none of that he knew so this is how like. like you got to understand this about. kamaro this is this is this is how good. he he Testament to how good he is. right for he won the first Leon won the. first round and for the. next better of three rounds you knew. exactly what he was about to do to you. and you couldn't stop couldn't stop it. you know what I'm saying yeah that was. like it took a perfect setup at the end.

to to to bring it home because we all. knew he was just going to push him up. into the cage and just punch on him and. the C shotar on him Camaro has destroyed. knees his knees are [ __ ] up man yeah I. see him I see he moves a little bit it's. kind of like it's not his angles aren't. really sharp on the turn well he can't. move good it's like he's in constant. pain he fights in pain like his are so. [ __ ] up that he walks downstairs. backwards damn yeah that [ __ ] up in a.

world champion that he was so [ __ ] up. that he told me that he he had to walk. on the grass like he was next to the. sidewalk the sidewalk hurt too much so. he'd walk on the. grass that's crazy crazy yeah and then. still go in and compete at that level. train how you train if you look at the. difference between the musculature in. his legs and the musculature in his. upper body it's a drastic difference I. think a lot of that is because of the. destroyed knees well if you look at the. way he grapples a lot of his wrestling. he's his wrestling is done with upper.

body he doesn't wrestle with he doesn't. grapple with his legs yeah it's amazing. that some and he throws a lot of kicks. it's amazing that a guy who's hurt like. that can compete low kicks kickick he'll. throw a high kick occasionally you know. like I think he threw some high kicks in. the Kobe Covington fight I mean he's. just he's [ __ ] dangerous dangerous. just his mind is the thing that is most. dangerous about him because to have the. ability to overcome that kind of pain. like he's in his cartilage is [ __ ] so.

he's like everywhere he walks every step. constant pain everything constant pain. just deal he just believes he's the guy. you know he just believes he believes. he's the guy he believes he's just. better and he just I think I believe he. marched forward with that belief and. that's how he um that's how he's been. getting getting getting through that and. everything plus adrenalin is yeah like U. you done MMA fight before no kickbox. though kickbox so you know the. adrenaline whenever you like especially. in the MMA fight dog that adrenaline is.

nuts like I um like even the Paul Craig. like my my my forarm like I didn't feel. it like that but the minute you get back. there to the back and that adrenaline's. gone tough times yeah you see guys. walking out of there walking out of the. locker room they're like oh oh limping. all a sudden next you know he's walking. he's walking he's walking fine he's all. hyp and everything like like that and. you know he's the crazy thing is the. caves the calf kick has changed.

everything it's it's so wild that this. one kick that was always available. always all of a sudden over the last few. years become like a primary weapon nasty. that's like [ __ ] in Pera he said that he. [ __ ] up his leg in that first round. like Israel said part of the problem was. I couldn't move he got my leg even. though Israel looked like he was fine. it's just cuz he's a champion cuz he. knows how to hide it and he knows how. keep moving butd it's like that leg was. just compromised from too many those. chopping low kicks he just chop chop.

chop I OSP got me with the leg with them. with them and uh whenever we whenever we. fought and then the fight they didn't. feel like you know what I mean they. didn't really feel like any after the. fight oh my God you know maybe like the. last one maybe one of the last ones it. was like a stinging like more like a. little stinging feeling but um yeah but. that's the thing once you see. something's working yeah people going to. start taking it people it's a lot like I. like that's what that's what made me. realize like all other people that study.

study the fights and study things like I. do cuz people started to implement those. things they'll start to implement it. more and more and more and more like. people are going eventually people are. going to start implementing the jab more. and more more and more you know I'm. wondering how many people you saw the. khil Round Tree fight where he. sidekicked that dude in the KN BW his. out yeah I'm not a fan of that one that. one scares me I'm not a fan of that one. I'm not a fan of that one either it's. like I get get it it's it's there it. should be used cuz it is a it is a real. technique well if that's the case then.

why can't we just punch in the back of. the head then I think you should be able. to I really do it doesn't make any sense. to me that you can't hit in the back of. the head well they well they treat that. because it's a weak spot right yeah it's. almost like being hitting the nut you. know yeah but I mean to a certain degree. isn't your whole [ __ ] head a. vulnerable spot I guess there's maybe a. vulnerable spot that's more vulnerable. in the backy head but should that be. protected you don't really have a way to. defend the back of your head though yeah. but then if someone gets to that spot.

you're [ __ ] I mean that's that should. be what it is because that's reality do. you remember the early days I don't know. if you ever saw this but henzo Gracie. had a fight early on in one of those um. those organizations that didn't go. anywhere like World Combat something or. another and uh he took this guy down who. was a judo guy he took him down got his. back and in those days you could elbow. the back of the head and henzo just got. his back and just boom boom boom and.

then put him out and then I I think he. strangled him after he elbowed him in. the back of the head but it's like. having that ability to to hit that spot. that's real it's it's also if we're. we're this is the sport of fighting. that's a [ __ ] real vulnerability the. back of the head's a real the the the. idea that a guy can cover up like this. and you have to go around that in this. one glaring spot in the back back of the. head exists and doctors will tell you oh. you can't get hit there and he like but. there's a lot of times where it's okay.

to get hit there like here's one head. kicks yep a lot of head kicks they wrap. around they catch you right at the back. of the head we know this we know this. with wheel kicks we know this with. roundhouse kicks hooks happens all the. time and it's okay and then but some. people like I don't I don't know I think. it's more so frown upon on the ground I. don't know why I don't I mean I guess. that it's more more dangerous but then. that's also a good spot to hit. then when Jon Jones finished Al.

Alexander guson in a second fight those. weren weren't those shots to the back of. the head let's look at it let's look at. it bro there's a lot of times for guys. in the middle of the heat battle they. hey they they let that fight they let. that right some of them definitely when. someone's raining down blows and a guy's. covering up and turning some of them are. going back there I just don't I get. doctor I understand if they would come. to me and say no this is a particularly. vulnerable area okay well then stop.

fighting you shouldn't be fighting no. one should fight then cuz your whole. head's a vulnerable area if you get. wheel kicked in the temple like that's a. vulnerable [ __ ] area this little. skinny ass piece of bone that protects. the side of your head and someone swings. a giant heel and it comes slamming right. into there Jorge Sarat he did that to I. think it was Ben laggle he fought even. when he fought him back in the days like. one of my spy Partners like my first. Spar partner that I first came in he did. a wheel kick his leg like wrapped around. and bow clocked him in the back of the.

head yeah kind of fell off that's a bad. one that happens all the time I remember. uh when Edson Barbosa wheel kicked Terry. Edom in the head. man yeah stiff and we were talking in. the commentary saying that Terry's got. to do something to take more chances but. he could risk getting knocked. out risk getting knocked out yeah right. when it happened it was crazy that was. the I think might have been the original. Andy's. coming the stiff yeah when guys go stiff.

like that that's a hard way to to come. back from yeah that's those are rough. Knockouts especially Terry Adam never. really came back from that fight never. was world class again after that fight I. think it's like a fear it's got to be. like some type of fear and this is what. kamaro's going to have to deal with. whenever he fights Leon yes I mean it's. it's already like I think he he lost one. fight right yep one fight early in his. career. he got choked right all right it was. cool you made J dids to you make. mistakes you know you can get choked by.

mean now getting knocked out bro like. it's got to be different yeah know I. mean it's very different it's very. different I believe it is too so there's. a moment in kamaro's fights when in his. uh career where Damien mayia got his. back and it was standing Damen mayia had. him clinched up against the cage and he. was getting his back and the referee. separated him and I was like what the. [ __ ] did you just do yeah it changed the. course of the fight I'm to this day I'm. fast CU this was Damen Maya basically in.

his prime as a welterweight camaru. coming up and there was this moment. where Damen has kamaro's back he's like. hanging on him he's clinched up against. him he's a very good position and the. referee separates him and I remember at. home going. no what the [ __ ] are you doing how are. you separating this and that's always a. weird thing. when they choose to separate somebody. separate stand up or like um cuz he was.

telling me that I needed to work when I. was on top of Glover and I'm hitting him. with elbows yeah he was like he was like. oh he's like like you got to work you. got to work Jamal which is crazy cuz why. do they say that what that doesn't make. any sense to me I don't know you work. when you need to work if you were on top. and you're being I was being heavy on. I'm just I'm just zapping I'm just Za. I'm like just you know I mean kind of. basically kind of crushing this. diaphragm at this Point yeah it's like. oh you got to work you got to work I'm. like I am I'm allow I'm not allowed to.

cook the stew yes I'm not allowed to. turn turn the pressure cooker off go do. go go go go make the rice right you. should be able to pick when you go when. you're in a dominant position when. you're controlling a guy yeah and this I. hate standups I feel like if someone. could take you down and hold you down. that is on you to get up that like. having a stand up just cuz the crowd's. bored tell them to go go watch baseball. that's boring as [ __ ] and people watch. it every week you got to protect the. product Joe you got to protect the.

product I don't believe that I I believe. the guys like you will always rise to. the top I'm going to get up that's what. I'm saying I'm get up that's what I'm. saying I feel like if you didn't have. that option available guys would be very. focused on getting up instead of. thinking that they could just wrap their. guard around you and wrap your head. around you and just hope for a stand up. cuz sometimes referees will do that they. get a guy in a guard position and then. no one's doing anything the guy can't do. anything up they stand them up stand. them up and the crowd cheers and. everything that's a good job I go no.

you've ruined the flow of the fight. standing up you can go at your pace yeah. and if you're on top and if guy's got. you in his guard and he's squeezing and. holding on to you how long can you do. that can you do that for the full five. minutes you might not be able to you. might relax a little and then that. person's going to get out and that's. what the Sport's all about the Sport's. all about you being able to figure out. how to get out of a bad position and get. to a better position and someone being. able to control you and minimize the. damage that they take and maximize the. amount of damage they could put on you.

that's what it's all about so if you. have a standup then you have a. subjective person like it's up to them. to decide stand them up I've seen people. get stand up in side control which is. crazy yeah I've saying that too crazy. like it takes too long to get to that. spot and you only have five minutes to. work in around yeah I don't like. stand-ups at all I don't I don't think. that they should I think that's one of. the things we should get rid rid of a. really and people like oh it's going to. make it boring wrestlers are going to. take people down figure it out how to.

not get wrestled figure out how to get. up there's ways to get up it's not like. once a guy gets you mount no one in the. world can get up that's [ __ ]. everybody can get up it just scrambles. things have to happen that's part of the. puzzle that mixed martial arts presents. yeah I think that I was only on the. ground on top of Glover for what maybe. like a minute and a half in a minute and. a half how many elbows did I hit him. with for me to actually get a warning to. be stood was crazy it's crazy that was. just that was just wild to me and then. like the.

whole he I think it was the fourth round. the fourth round when I was standing up. and I was actually and I was actually. starting to lay on lay it on him a. little bit he um he told him I think he. told him maybe three or four times like. like you got to show me something Glo. you got to show me at what point are you. going to stop it bro right it was you. know what I'm saying cuz it cuz like. well back the Izzy fight do you think. the Izzy fight should have been stopped. when he had him on the ground when he. had no whenever he oh when Iz he at the. end yeah yeah I think that one is a good.

stoppage because that scissor knee was. coming you know like he he was hurt I. mean got caught clean I think he got. caught I think he got caught clean but I. think also his leg was compromised cuz. he actually got his leg the check got. his leg he got a kick check right before. that which is all right so he's already. stumbling it's that same left leg that. got chopped up in the first round yeah. but his like but he was move like he was. weaving now I'm not going to say it was. a bad stoppage or whatever like that but. like if you believe that should have.

been stopped the the glob fight defin. Miss that's the thing about being. subjective about a referee being able to. decide and some of them are great like. Herb Dean very rarely makes a bad call. he's the best he's he's very good at it. and some guys are just real quick with. the trigger they'll stop a fight when a. guy's just kind of a little rocked you. know her B we work for that stoppage on. Santos yeah yeah I had to work I had to. work for that well I was tired yeah I. was tired I think I hit him about like.

50 something punches before before we uh. before we got in there before we got the. we got the old wave off but the um but. after that fourth round though like you. seen when they pour the water when they. pour the water on my head MH bro that. was all his blood like I wasn't bleeding. from my head at all wow like it was like. he had like chunk like my coach saying. like he's he had like chunks of his like. chunks of his flesh and stuff over in my. hair and things like that it was like.

bro what you got to do then there it is. what you got do that's his blood that's. crazy you see look you see like the. little white chunks and stuff in my. head yeah. bro that's so crazy if you look if you. actually look at my mouth I was like I. was like where that's coming I look down. and I see it I'm like where's that. coming from that's crazy where that. coming from am I bleeding oh his blood. in your hair yeah. wow wow yeah it's it's that is.

interesting but that's why the. importance of good referees is is it's. so significant because if you get a bad. referee you know like um you know some. guys they'll have like a personal beef. with a certain referee like a referee. stopped a fight too early and they're. like I don't want him calling my fights. yeah I don't I don't I don't get that. person with I just say how I feel about. the situation and I move on from it you. know um like Mark did what he did what. he did like her they do what they do. what they do you know what I mean I'll. say how I feel about this situation or. whatever then for all right we on to the.

next yeah you know it is weird though. that that's a factor in world. championship fights the subjective. factor of when to stop a fight yeah when. to stop a fight when to tell a guy to. work when to stand a person up bro that. cut was nasty dude like if you going to. stop it for any cut I thought it was. going to be that one it was his eye was. like his ey brow was like completely. like just just torn apart well I believe. that in a lot of other places they would.

have stopped that fight like if you had. in a smaller commission like maybe. Arizona or something like that they. might have was in Brazil right right. right and also maybe something like New. York that there you know New York does. not have I mean New York has a nice. history now with the UFC but when we. first went there there was not a real. history of uh MMA in professional New. York because it was corrupt they kept. MMA out of New York forever it was look. at that cut dude yeah nasty cut that's a. nasty ass.

cut yeah yeah but he could still see out. of that eye as opposed to he was still. at one point he was standing he was. wiping blood out of like wiping blood. out of his eyes right but it wasn't. closed off you know what I'm saying like. the Davidson figuro fight when Brandon. Marino caught him with that left hook. and the eye just swole up and closed. even in Brazil they're like we got to. stop this fight I think that's part of. the reason another part of the reason. why they didn't want to stop the fight. also was because right before that they. just stopped the David and Figaro fight. for uh for for injury right you know so.

you stop another title fight and take. another title title from a Brazilian off. an injury. here that's an interesting thing I. wonder if that factors in like if one. referee makes a quick call and an early. stoppage and then in the next fight the. referee thinks about that and goes you. know what I'm not going to let this one. I'm going to let this one go a little. longer I'm not going to hear those booze. yeah cuz those Boos real when the crowd. booze and you're in there by yourself. with your sneakers on going oo. everybody's mad at me yeah but but to.

Clover's credit though he I had to. technically pour it on him I had to pour. it on for range setups and things like. that I was never I was never able to. just sit and just po shot and just start. cleaning his clock you know um because I. I tried God damn it I tried yeah but he. just yeah bro so experienced so. experienced and so resilient get off. into that but that again that's about as. close to a stoppage as you're ever going. to get without it being stopped when you. were on top of them and Blasting him I. thought it was over that's what I. thought I thought this over thought when.

he kept I thought whenever he kept um in. the fourth whenever I was L whenever I. was landing on him and then uh. especially after he threw it through it. I slipped countered with the knee. started hitting him landed a couple more. uppercuts you know I'm like I was. expecting him to jump in between us and. wave and wave it off you know but then. like whenever I seen he did and then. it's like all right now now he's. fighting for under he's trying to gr. he's trying to clench up with me and. things like that it's like all right I'm. not going to burn my I'm not going to. burn my load just now just start just.

picking shots hitting them with start. hitting them with clean shots again but. Glover never loses his composure to win. never loses it even after you head. kicked him when he when you had him. stumbling and rocking he's still he's. still like right here focused he's not. he's you never see like oh [ __ ] in his. eyes yeah even when Guston took him out. you know he was still in there trying. but just Guston just pieced him up that. was Guston I think's finest performance. when he stopped Clover I mean he just.

what a video game combination he hit him. with that was like you're playing The. Ultimate Fighter video game yeah bam. perfect three perfect uppercuts it was. amazing that was an amazing then he. slipped he got hit with those three. uppercuts and still threw a counter left. hook still threw a counter left hook he. had to he had to slip and then bang. counter him again yeah like that's crazy. yeah yeah that's crazy uppercuts aren't. meant for people to be taken bro right. they're not it's a nasty Punch Remember.

When Rumble caught Glover with that. uppercut sent his two fly Rumble rest in. peace rest in peace Rumble what a great. guy put him down with one punch oh what. the power that Rumble have was crazy and. the fact that that guy carried that. power all the way up into heavyweight. when he was a welterweight 170 he was. never 170 he was 170 for three. minutes got back he made he made the. weight Joe yeah he made the weight he. made the weight Joe all right he look. like a he look like a skeleton he look. like uh he looked like uh one of the one.

of the people from Coco yeah whenever he. did. it but hey he made it one of these man. for real yeah for real one of these. sugar skulls yeah man when I saw him uh. in between fights once uh he was so big. I said Anthony how big are you and he. goes I'm about 230 I go what the [ __ ] is. going on how are you gonna lose 60. pounds and that was like the real. struggle when he decided to go up to. middleweight and he missed middleweight. remember he fought vtor missed.

middleweight and then uh came back as a. light heavyweight Contender and one of. the [ __ ] scariest guys in the. division wild silly wild just realized. like he can't do that to his body. anymore and he he course corrected but I. wonder about those guys like those guy I. mean uh he he developed an illness I. don't know if it was related and and. unfortunately died but those guys that. cut that much weight how much of a toll. is that taken on their body body has got. to be taking a heavy heavy toll Johnny. Walker like Johnny Walker's got to be.

240 lbs before he starts that guy he's. got to be he's so. big yeah yeah man. it's I don't know bro it's a heavy toll. I think somebody said something like he. rehydrated back up to like 237 or. something like that I believe it he. looks like it when you're standing next. to him like how the [ __ ] are you 205b. huge dude I'm I'm looking like all right. where's the skinny part no not the. skinny so what does it say 248 lbs one.

week after his fight Jesus Christ and. but look at him at even 248 he's not fat. at. 248 big dude man yeah I mean he's it's. interesting because he's actually been. saying he's going to go up to. heavyweight and he's talking about. fighting got the right body type bro. yeah he's got the right body type the. bounce between two you know who else is. big dude that now made it dude is hug oh. he's big he's a big boy he's big he's a. big boy he was he's heavyweight but he'd.

be like another he be well I heard they. actually they actually offered me to. fight him a 205 on yeah on the on the on. the 21st of January yeah he weighs like. what like 220 is as he fights as a. heavyweight he's on the lighter side of. heavy I don't know dude I know but if I. know he make if he makes it to 205. that's about the same size as Johnny. Walker it's like the same like body. bodybuild and things like that so I. think that' be that actually would be. exciting yeah a good one is there any.

fighters from the past that you look at. and go man I wish I I was in his his. time I wish I I wish I could fight him I. would have liked man like there's a lot. of the gra I would have liked to test. myself against you know for me it just. looks like it's just. test you know um I would lik to fight. Anderson Silva at his Prime at his Peak. I would have liked to fought uh Jon. Jones at his Peak um I would have liked. to fight Chuck. Liddell um leoto.

MAA. uh Brock Lesnar really I would have F. Brock really BR I don't. bro like wrong bro Brock Brock Brock is. a big name he's he's done a lie and. things like that but I don't I just. don't think Brock was that. good I just think he was big he was. definitely big I don't think he was. skilled I think he was just big well you.

know an example of that is when Brock. fought. aliser when before usada came around. when aliser was on all the. Mexican on the good stuff he was on the. good stuff see find that fight Brock. Lesar versus Alistar over look at the. size of the. re that was a fully Juiced the fully. Juiced re was the scariest heavyweight. that ever existed look at that. [ __ ] eys got muscles any man any.

man that got [ __ ] by usada it's alist. over I think Alistar over when he was. like allowed to supplement with whatever. the [ __ ] you could do he was so cuz he. was a world class kickboxer K1 Grand. Prix Champion the type of standup skills. that he had man Brock nervous as [ __ ]. right here of course he's nervous cuz. he's got to try to take this dude down. and the dude's as big as him and aliser. was also a European champion in Abu.

Dhabi he won the European trials you. know Alistar over he he [ __ ]. guillotined VOR BFF for Alistar over can. submit people too very good ground game. but like he got to be able like right. like you got to be able to go from a. knowing to be a boxer KN to be a. wrestler he don't know that yeah this. was such a good fight too it was such a. good fight because aler at this time was. in his prime entering into the UFC and. had great takedown defense look stops. that single and his standup was. unparalleled you know I mean by the time.

he fought Francis he was already battle. worn and you know off the sauce and you. know fighting natural it's just not the. same guy I would have loved to seen. Francis in his Prime versus this aler. because they're they're literally the. same size just Francis is just a natural. freak Francis is like some of the best. genetics I've ever seen in the. heavyweight division he's the perfect. heavyweight especially since there's a. weight class look at look how he's. putting it on him man I mean just so. skillful the way he frames off there he.

sets up that left kick to the body oh. that liver kick come on man and Al's. liver kick that's a totally different. level if you never been hit by a world. class kickboxer like. that yeah he's one of my absolute. favorite fighters to watch in his prime. Alistar in his prime was the [ __ ] man. he really. was and people forgot man the one that. shake your organs you take a couple. steps and all of a sudden you just yeah. I remember when he fought Brett Rogers.

in Strike Force and the moment he hit. him with a leg kick you see Brett Rogers. eyes like oh boy this is a different. thing this is a totally different thing. like you're in there with my Elite world. class kickboxer excuse me so you would. have fought him at. heavyweight who Brock Brock Lesnar yeah. I F yeah you like that fight too 265. something like that he ain't gonna do. nothing just try to arrest just try to. dry him.

me that's all he's going to do try to. get a little frisky on. me when you think about your career what. do you have like a timeline when you. want to get out of the. game. um I juggle with it right now I'm just. I'm just having fun with it whenever I. feel like um people still want to see me. and like you know I'm still I still have. things that that I want to do and. accomplish I'm I'm going keep doing it. and whenever I feel like I can't be at. that level that you know that I'm.

accustomed to being at. and I'll find something else for me to. do so right now you just concentrated on. Excellence just being the best you can. be do you have a thing that you want to. do when you're done fighting yeah yeah. what do you want do I want to get into. um in the entertainment you know I like. to I like to entertain I like to make. people laugh you know you see you're. funny dude man you're very fun your. social media is excellent sweet dreams. Hill is sweet dreams Hill MMA is uh.

sweetdreams J Hill okay that's your. Instagram you're you're funny man you. you you got a good following on on. Instagram and you [ __ ] around a lot it's. it's like that's a that's a factor like. being likable being someone that that is. entertaining that people enjoy and that. they could root for like people watch. like where you at though. you at though yeah that and that's what. she. said like that kind of [ __ ] is that's.

valuable you know that's a that's a like. if you looked at a overall like a. Fighter's marketability there's your. ability inside the the cage that's. already there but then there's like the. personality and that's the intangible. that's what makes people really want to. see you yeah and you got that I like. being I like you know I like I just like. entertaining I like entertaining I like. I like uh seeing making people happy I. like making people laugh you know and uh. also another thing I want to do whenever. I get done is like movies I want to get.

in movies I like I like Writing Movies I. like writing my own stories I like being. like creative and things like that. really no sh you write movies I've WR. some some movies and some TV series. ideas no [ __ ] interesting when did you. start doing that I started like honestly. like it kind of started whenever I was. like a little kid you know I don't know. if anybody else ever played like with. their toys but like what I would do with. my toys like my action figures it be. like a whole situation right like all. right this the boss level on this floor. right here they on this floor they doing.

this he got you girl then we do like. fight scenes but the fight scenes always. had to lead up to something so I I was. like kind of like making stories and. making things up in my head already like. we're just doing it with toys like dang. wonder if I could ever create these into. like movies like I thought of this as a. little kid so like that's just something. I've always wanted to do what movies are. you into like what what what's the kind. of [ __ ] that you really like a bunch of. different things like action You Know. Drama thrill you know scary movies I. kind of watch it all I Dil in it all so.

that's the the thought of concentrating. on like later in your career yeah yeah. yeah you could do that 100% you know. what else you could do you could do a. podcast and you can do that now yeah. yeah I'm gonna get that going you could. totally do that now and it it's a great. marketing tool because you could talk. about fights like after the fights. happen you you could talk about you. could like make a breakdown on what you. think could happen just and just talk. [ __ ] just get get together with your.

friends and [ __ ] around it's so easy to. do and you got a perfect personality for. it and it's a great marketing tool too. like all all that stuff is great for. your your overall profile you know yeah. I've been meaning I've been meaning to. do it to buckle down there but then I. come in and I see Studios like your. setup I'll be like I don't had it setup. maybe I should get it first well I. started out in my living room a laptop I. mean it was just me and my friends. [ __ ] it was the most low Tech setup. ever web camera you know like [ __ ].

ethernet cable into the laptop it was so. low Tech like you just need to start and. then eventually you're like you know. what we need better chairs eventually. you'd be like you know what we need like. a real table that has like microphones. that come out of the table you know what. we need some lighting in this room this. room's got [ __ ] lighting you know. what we need better cameras you know we. need the and then it'll all start that. up yeah but the most important thing is. just to start doing it like everybody. thinks that they look at all these. podcasts that are like real successful.

and they go oh I have to have a setup. like that like no no no just got to just. set a [ __ ] iPhone up in front of you. on on a table you know and just just. talk to it just talk into it you could. just do it on Instagram it's not hard to. do you could just start and then once. you get started people go hey when you. doing those again and people get excited. about it they want to see it and then. you just build just build just keep. doing doing it yeah yeah I'm going to. get those started that was that's one of. the plans whenever I got back home after. I got done let me know let me know and.

I'll put it up on Instagram but you. definitely could do that you definitely. could do that and that's also another. good source of Revenue you could get. more money coming in that way and you. know when if a fight like look at ch. sunnen ch sunnen has done a fantastic. job of doing that breaks down fights has. his videos they're all super popular and. you know makes that transition into. commentary as well it's it's a smart. thing to do for a fighter really is cuz. everybody wants to hear perspective on.

on this sport CU it's such you know you. got the people that train and the people. that fight and then you got other people. that just like watching and the other. people that just like watching they kind. of don't know a lot of the [ __ ] that's. going on and if they get an inside from. a world champion like yourself who. explains what this is like and explains. what's wrong with this explains why this. should have been different explains what. he could have done that's so valuable to. people and so to to get someone who's. doing it like really no one right now in.

in the championship level is doing a. podcast yeah are there no no aljo aljo. start aljo Al's doing it he does it. that's he's the only one is he is he's. doing it is he's doing it is he doing. his own podcast yeah he does breakdowns. he does uh reaction videos he watch he. just did it from my last fight um. vul does vul's been doing breakdowns he. does a cooking show things he makes some. good [ __ ] he Mak good [ __ ] Mak some good.

[ __ ] yeah what do you think about that. fight with him and makev I think that's. a good fight I think it's a good fight. it's a crazy fight right crazy fight to. go right from like 145 pound champion to. the first title defense at 155 for. makev that's a that's a crazy fight man. yeah that's this weekend it's bro is is. is crazy honestly just man I think a lot. of it is because of how Islam beat. Charles like nobody saw that coming I.

thought it was going to be a tough fight. I thought it was going to be a tough. fight too and then he h him on the feet. on the feet on the feet beat him with. the beat him standing and Then followed. him to where everybody thought he would. be safe at i w I seen a clip of that. choke that he did to I I know how that. choke was so tight now so cuz he most. people finish a head and arm triangle. they go into the elbow bicep yeah he. went. up higher up higher he went up higher. and then locked it here tighter squeeze. into it well I think his squeeze is just.

phenomenal because if you see the way he. tapped Drew Dober too the same sort of. situation he gets guys on the ground and. they just it's I think it's just a Next. Level power and squeeze some dudes just. have Next Level squeeze and next level. like grappling power and he's developed. that his whole life he's also enormous. for one 55 he's about as big as you can. get and safely make 155 lbs he I've. never seen him in person he's big he's.

about 190 he he looks to me like a one. he looks to me like like a welterweight. like where does vul walk around at can't. be nearly that High Vol is 56 170 I mean. he might think he was a big dude before. he was he was a big rugby player got big. [ __ ] legs he's tough as [ __ ] man he's. fast as [ __ ] fast as [ __ ] he's fast as. [ __ ] and I realized that the the hollow. fight. yeah I was because I was there and I was. I was actually watching it live you know. Max is fast in his own right it's just.

like bro every time match TW Max. twitched like small as a twitch small as. twitch bang he explo and he came and he. beat him to the punch every time every. time every time it was crazy dude it was. it was a big leap up like when you go to. their first fight and then you go to. their last fight you you see a different. V completely different. he's on a whole another level now that. guy's drive his [ __ ] drive is top of. the food chain I that's that's why I.

think he wins really I think he wins you. think he wins over makach I think he. wins wow that's interesting that you say. that because that's uh that's he's a. probably a heavy betting underdog if I. had to guess if I had to guess he's at. least a two to one Underdog what what is. uh what's the betting odds for this. weekend I think if he comes out Loose. Loose creative standing out to start I. think he catches him with something big. he could either cut him open or he can. have put some damage on him early that.

changes the fight I think that's the. main thing he's got to do is put some. type of damage on him get that respect. out the gate and I think he can do it. what do we got for the odds they don't. have it listed on the UFC side I'm might. have to check a betting site okay um the. thing about um makev is he might be. looking at him like it's an easy win. yeah he might because he's been saying a. lot of [ __ ] it might just be talk hey. shortman what is shortman going to do to. me you know like he's been talking [ __ ]. about him about how he's little and the.

145 Pounders or a big difference between. that and 155 which is true but the other. thing that's true is a lot of times when. guys are cutting weight to get to 145. pounds they're diminishing their. abilities you might see a better. volkanovski at 155 even though he's the. best of the best at 145 he might be. doing that like compromise big favor. joking bro W that's a big favorite damn. we're not allowed to bet on fight so. he's plus I know that sucks that's plus. 290 from makev and volkanovski is uh 375.

minus 375 what is volkanovski for the. Finish oh that's got to be like a. [ __ ] that's got to be crazy odds here. I could find that somewhere too that's. got to be crazy odds what is going on. the yayer Rodriguez let me see what the. I think if he hits him I think he. catches him like especially like that. that right hand is fastc is sharp I. think left that left hook is sharp and. nasty too so um I think if he hits him. with one of those and then he starts.

working the legs that's a long night for. Islam it is however you I mean I know. this doesn't MMA math doesn't really. work but if you look at Brian Ortega's. fight with vulcanos Brian Ortega almost. finished him twice he got so close to. that mounted Guillotine that's a. Jiu-Jitsu based guy yes but same. techniques I think it's a little top. game but top game pressure and crushing. with that Guillotine is what Ortega. almost got him with if I don't know if.

Volcan nowski survives if makev gets him. in that same exact spot whoa what what's. going on the website a different website. I would not name it uh it's not it's. fine it's that has the odds way. different H opposite. almost bet on. both the one I checked before would have. been Ed uh maybe a couple days ago and. this is updated live so maybe the beding. got so far the other way that they've. switched it I don't know I might have to.

check a third site now to see what this. is because there even this has a makach. chev's favorite to win inside the. distance right this is also favorite to. win inside five rounds uh interesting uh. wins by submission would be the the. highest bet here interesting yes so I. I'll check something else look at the. draw the 6,600 it's almost always where. throw money on the draw just in case it. happens. yeah interesting yeah weird damn if only. if only 282 more valuable than we out.

[ __ ] hate that they took away. gambling I feel like you should be able. to bet on yourself I would love it if. like you're fighting someone and we said. Jal Hill just bet a million dollars on. himself like like that adds to the fight. yeah it makes it makes it more exciting. Justin James you yeah you should be able. to bet on yourself but the the thing. that [ __ ] everybody up was this thing. with that one fighter that looks like he. took a dive yeah well krauss's corner. krauss's corner in the sky now now no. one from krauss's Team can even compete.

in the UFC you have to leave his Camp if. you want to fight in the UFC which is. crazy it's crazy it's crazy because like. if you can't gamble what difference does. it make where you're training if you. can't gamble like you just made a rule. that said they can't gamble okay so why. you telling them they can't train with. this Camp anymore that doesn't make any. sense and they're they're saying he. suspended as a corner okay but what. about training from that gym you can't. train from that gym train from right. that doesn't make any sense it makes you.

can't you can't train a guy in a way. that it's an unfair Advantage so what's. the point why why can't why can't these. guys from that gym if you're going to. say Krauss can't Corner him fine just. influence I guess what kind of influence. if there's no gambling if the gambling. is not legal anymore you made gambling. illegal so why are you penalizing these. young Fighters that don't have anything. to do with that and they're coming out. of this camp and you're also what if the. guy's innocent okay what if it turns out. cuz there's a there's an investigation. what if it turns out he's in you've.

destroyed his livelihood you've. destroyed his gym you've destroyed his. reputation and we don't even know what. the the the reality of the situation is. the allegations are not good the. allegations appears like they knew a guy. was injured they told people who was. injured he was going to lose the fight. and everybody bet on the opponent if. that's the case that's some dirty [ __ ]. dirty [ __ ] that's some dirty [ __ ] but. you know if you want to bet on yourself. or bet on your fighter I feel like that. should be good that's exciting that. makes it fun you find out his brother.

bet $50,000 on him oh [ __ ] it's it's fun. it makes it fun I like that I like fun. yeah gambling's fun like if like they. outlawed all gambling on the UFC I would. be so upset you're just going to make. bookmakers happy they're just going to. do it illegally and that makes people. and not only that bro gambling brings. people in the first thing I pulled up. must have been an error cuz everything. else has the opposite it has a makev as. a heavy favorite yeah well what did the. other on say was it volkanovski not a. heavy favorite yeah the this is the.

first thing I pulled up is this this and. this might this must be an error they. must have just switched that on accident. and so it's vulcanos ski is the favorite. yeah but but the the regular one that. you just pulled up the other site this. has the site this has bding across all. websites that's makev is a 4 to one. favorite which makes more sense and you. got Yaya Rodriguez he's a favorite over. Josh EMT five to one here five to one. wow interesting interesting you know.

another [ __ ] great fight on that card. is Jack Dela melen and Randy Brown. that's a great fight that's a great. fight G be a good one that Dela Malala. is a bad [ __ ] and Randy Brown is. long and talented I really get me every. time F you don't want that nose no I. don't no yeah that nose is smashed and. never fixed yeah but that's a hard-nosed. dude man and he's going to be fighting.

in Australia which for a guy who lives. there man that's such an advantage of. not having to get on that 16-hour flight. oh yeah that 16 hour flight will [ __ ] up. multiple days cuz even though you're. training you're trying to get you're. still like how hard was the flight to. Brazil it wasn't hard at all no going. down there we uh we actually flew out at. night so. I fell asleep before the before the. plane even hit before the plane even. left the ground and by the time I woken. up we had already been up in the air for.

like five hours oh nice so it was just. like wake up we got about four and a. half hours I watched like two movies and. we were there and so then once you got. in do you train immediately to to. acclimate your body what do you do I. just chill how many days in advance of. the fight did you get there uh I got. there Monday we left Sunday we arrived. Monday morning oh that's not much time. at all fight yeah have you ever had a. fight at a heavy. altitude um not a heavy but higher I. know Vegas is higher altitude than.

Michigan is oh is it though it's like. 1,500 yeah but that doesn't really. factor in would really Factor does it it. might did you notice it at all I felt a. little. different the thing I'm thinking about. is um when uh C. Velasquez yeah Mexico City yeah the the. the Mexico City is a rough one cuz. Fabricio verdom uh he got there real. early like months early and he trained. in the mountains above Mexico City like.

Fabricio did it the right way he spent a. lot of time that's a guy that doesn't. get the credit that he deserves I. believe FAO verom should go down as one. of the all-time great MMA fighters one. of alltime great heavyweight champions. if you look at all the heavyweight. champions and what they accomplished. Fabricio verdom tapped out all the. Legends all the legends Tapped Out Cain. Velasquez Tapped Out Fedor tapped out. minaro I mean dude fabrio verom in his.

prime was a. [ __ ] and again that top level. Jiu-Jitsu World Championship caliber. Jiu-Jitsu Prime lasted long enough. didn't last long enough but if you just. look at his accomplishments just by. virtue of accomplishments you have to. put him in there as from the all-time. great yeah for sure and when he tapped. Fedor when he caught Fedor in that. triangle I was like oh oh oh oh. oh honestly crazy now that I think about. it who's who's whose Prime and. heavyweight actually did last that long.

Stipe Stipe is probably if you look at. the all-time heavyweight greates outside. of the UFC outside of the. UFC you know or outside of the UFC you. have to say Fedor right you have to say. he's the greatest he's the greatest. Fedor might be the greatest heavyweight. of all time there's always going to be. that thing because he didn't fight in. the UF. and then there's Kan Velasquez in his. prime who was the [ __ ] man he. was the [ __ ] but I always wonder. like Kane Velasquez in his prime Junior.

do Santo still caught him with one punch. and knocked him out what would Francis. have done to him would he done to him. the same thing he did when they fought. later yeah cuz when they fought later. Francis clipped him once and put him out. in the first round maybe Francis would. have done that his entire career like. maybe cuz I remember that damn fight. that was they that was on Fox they put. one [ __ ] fight on that entire card. and he came out and got clipped in like. a minute and a half and it was like all. right see good night folks. yeah like he caught with one big punch.

and apparently uh Kane had a really. [ __ ] up knee going into that fight. couldn't train right and they just they. made him fight like you had a fight yeah. it's like hey this is a big deal it's on. Fox got to defend your title and then he. goes out there with a blown out knee but. then dominated him in the two rematches. two rematches both of them they were. hard to watch they weren't even close. they were hard to watch even close Kane. had cardio like you couldn't [ __ ]. believe that was a scary thing about. Kane like he never stopped coming at you.

it was like a Julio caar Chavez approach. whereas like Julio caar Chavez he was. one of the greatest boxers of all time. but he wasn't really a one- punch guy he. would beat the [ __ ] out of you just keep. coming never tired combinations always. moving always moving I mean I I loved. watching Julio Cesar Chavez in his prime. but that's what Kane was like as a. heavyweight no just just never tired. just constant volume like volume you.

never see in the heavyweight division. but yeah still like what would Francis. have done to that like Francis was has. that nuclear option which FR which. Francis it depends on Francis at what. level Ste 2 that Francis Francis when he. knocks out Ste that Francis might be the. greatest heavyweight of all time yeah. that's kind of even against s G right he. turned into like he He adjusted realiz. all right you're not about to just get. here and chop my legs and took him down. and this is Francis with really [ __ ].

up leg he had a torn ACL and a torn MCL. going into that fight his leg was [ __ ]. up and he won that class of just. grappling without being able to do what. he does best which is Strike kind of. crazy couldn't move well on that one leg. Yeah without the credentials honestly. probably without. how how do you say this like without the. credentials because obvious somebody's. more decorated right and things like. that but if we're talking like just pure.

gifts and you have probably have to go. with. Francis because I can't I can't think of. a I can't think of a I can't think of a. heavyweight champion across history that. he couldn't beat I think the one the. Francis that fought Stipe the second. time what what DC said it best DC is. like patient Francis is a scary Francis. cuz he was patient that fight calculated. yeah he started the beginning of the end. was a. jab and His Hands man you get clip with.

one of those bombs W that aler over him. knockout to this day was one of the. scariest Knockouts I ever saw man that. shovel hook he hit him with that left. hook yeah bro that was Al's fault though. cuz like bro you felt the first one that. he missed you with and you still stood. in there trying to swing with him get. out get out get out get out you should. have read just like to dude from get out. get him out of there yeah look at that I. mean bro he's looking at the seats. behind him yeah yeah we call that uh we.

call that getting your kofy knocked off. kofy Jones kofy juice you see that you. see that you see that sweat hanging fly. you see the beads of sweat fly off his. chin oh my God that's kofy juice right. there that was a crazy crazy knockout. but again that's that's the thing about. Francis it's like that to have that kind. of power is it's such a GameChanger it's. like what Teddy atas says that about um. Deontay Wilder that he said he's got. that eraser his headed his neck were.

sleep but the rest of his body was still. awake in that picture when it first. connects you could see where his head go. to sleep look at the difference in. alistar's body between aliser when he. fought Brock Lesnar it's a different. human being it's that's natural aliser. and natural aler oh my goodness oh my. goodness oh my goodness boom that left. hook. down trying to blindly swing you gotta. see where you're. [Music]. punching he just he just stepped inside.

of it too that's all aliser thre and he. just kind of stepped inside of it and. bang. yeah yeah aler was just I mean he was. wide open in that it just it's just not. the same guy not the same guy when you. know he's not supplementing the first. left Miss bro you got get out get out. get out spin move he changed his style. remember he changed his style like when. when he did go natural he changed his. style and started moving a lot more and.

he he was training with uh Jackson. Winkle John right wasn't he who Alis. aliser I think he was pretty sure he was. he was moving a lot more he was trying. to you know like to outpoint guys yeah. like when you fought Junior do Santos. and that was a good fight he he just. used a lot more movement he was just. like more cautious different fighter. Styles make fights right so that might. work against one fighter but not against. the other honestly that should have been. the approach that he took in and out. moving like that should had that's the.

approach he should have took to Francis. chop his legs chop at his legs. first him try to reach you with try to. try to make him reach you don't let him. catch you coming because there you got. caught coming to him y you know what I'm. saying like nah bro yeah and then like. just the I'm not I've never been a fan. of the yeah it's a weird it seemed like. he was just like a little tentative in. that fight like just feared of of that. power Just aware hyper aware of that. power but in being scared of it he put. himself right in the line to get to get.

hit with it bad like CLI bad yeah that. Francis like the Francis that beat Stipe. in the second fight I would have loved. to seen him against anybody that ever. lived including Fedor in his prime all. those guys in their Prime just Francis. was just so ferocious and anytime he. touched you you were doomed he would. have blocked you put you put him in the. early days and he blocks a lot a lot of. dudes don't win a title yeah a lot of d.

a lot of dudes don't win a title they. don't even get close yeah no he's next. level that's why I was very upset when. he didn't resign with the UFC I'm very. happy for him if he gets that giant. payday if he gets a big they're talking. about him and Deontay Wilder now I read. that. today talking about him and Deontay. Wilder in a boxing match would be. violent it would be violent yeah and you. know Deontay can be hit but Deontay hits. people de hits hard bro talk about.

trying to find your equal you found him. that that last knockout he had look like. a jab moving away moving away moving. like pink and the dude's stiff stiff as. a boore yeah he's got that gift of God. it's like when he knocked out Luis Ortiz. like de touch just right to the forehead. BL and you see like Ortiz on the ground. going what the [ __ ] he hits guys and. it's like they've never been hit like. that before you can see the look in.

their eyes yeah only Tyson Fury he R he. I don't know how got up like The. Undertaker just sits. up and then won the rest of the round. won the rest of the fight yeah crazy. crazy and then you know the the rematch. and then the the third fight the third. fight he got hurt real bad you know and. and Deontay clipped him perfect. you see the fatle through his body when. heit like. boow you see it Ripple all the way down. to his love handles from the impact.

that's the kind of power Deontay has. yeah Deontay is is nasty bro he's. greatest one punch knockout artist in. the history of the heavyweight Division. I think I don't think there's anybody. that has greater one punch knockout. power because you're talking about a guy. whose entire career was knockout win. knockout only stver made it to the. decision and then he [ __ ] him up in. the rematch rematch bro yeah woooo bad. he he has a he had a he had a the way he. blocked like this was just not what I.

would recommend for for like somebody. punching like Deontay it's just bro yeah. you're just holding steel and lining up. a frame for him to yeah you're still. getting jostled by those shots even if. your hands are up like this if he's. hitting full blast on that hand it's. bang it's still rattling your skull yeah. that was one of the things that you did. with Glover when Glover blocked that. head kick it didn't matter didn't matter. cuz it's still blasting through but that. was the setup that was that was how I. wanted it that's why I moved the way I. did you know you notice I was moving him.

moving moving him and then I pop I. either I pop I pop a jab or I just look. low I just look I just gave that that. little that little look low bang just. stick just put the leg up you know look. low lift your leg is that something. you've been incorporating more into your. game the the head kicks the Bro the head. kick the the leg the uh the left uh leg. kick head kick body kick was the first. weapon I had walking in that was the one. thing I knew I can beat some my if you. go back and you watch my uh my first.

amateur fight it's on YouTube um I. knocked him out with a head kick really. yeah knocked him four months into. training that was six weeks six weeks in. the training yeah about six to eight. weeks yeah wow yeah I knocked him out. bro hit him I hit him it D kind he kind. of stumbled I hit him again and then. bang right off of that Boop left head. kick came up so that's always been one. of your big weapons that's always been. one yeah yeah it's a it's a giant weapon.

to have guys who don't throw head kicks. it's like man you're you're missing out. on just an enormous part of the game. those the dudes who don't throw can't. yeah can't quite get the leg up there. which is crazy like hey man maybe you. should work on that yeah I mean if. you're in a business where people are. kicking you in the head and you can't. kick them in the head back in the. headage kind of crazy I mean when when a. world championship fight is won that way. like Leon Edwards and Camaro Usman or. like Jon Jones vers DC there's something. about a head kick man I mean that is the.

great. equalizer yeah because you got to deal. with it the right way you can't just put. like that way now as far as timing yeah. he got his he got his arm with it but. there was no way for you to block a. flush clean head kick with one arm no no. even two arms are still getting rattled. yeah yeah especially your kid that that. was like you were setting it up. technique turn it over right right when. it needs and he Landed It multiple times. too it's like he didn't make an. adjustment you you kept Landing that.

shot he made an adjustment he did he he. made an adjustment um the thing was is. just I when he he made he adjust I. adjusted and then I eventually work my. way back to it and he wasn't ready for. it you know you can you can be like all. right yeah I'm not going to lie he C me. with a head kick I'm not going to let. him hit hit me with a head kick all. right now he's punching you now he's. throwing straights down the middle and. he's hitting you in the face now he's. throwing straight and he's hitting you. to the body now he's chopping your legs. now he's kicking you in the body now. he's fainting you know what I mean he's. fainting and he's catching you with.

combinations now all of a sudden now now. now uh you you landed shot all right now. I got to try to press forward all right. step step side head kick bang now you. get hit with the same head kick again. and it's like damn I I thought I had to. adjust like am I am I going to be able. like it's the doubt starts to seep in. yeah you know and I understand that I. understand how I understand I've gone. through a lot of things in training a. long a lot of things over like I've had. total amateur I think amateur I had like. 13 fights so i' I've have dealt with a.

lot of different things so I I kind I. got the idea of how to process things. and how people think whenever they. whenever they go through it like getting. hit hard which is still why I don't. understand how globber didn't pause at. all cuz I've been hit hard like I've. been like hit hard it's like who hit you. the hardest in in the UFC the. UFC dark o doing yeah. probably.

yeah yeah tago is. fist no he hit me with a um hit me with. like a overhand like overhand like like. like like a looping hook like a bow like. one of. those um yeah. probably. well heit me the most probably but.

Santos Santos hits Santos Santos hits. hard he he hits hard but the only punch. that really. like it didn't hurt but it did damage. like the one that SW my eye out you know. but. um he hits hard if he if I'm pretty sure. he hits hard if he lands flush on you. only thing is he don't put himself in. position though. like stick you so like whenever he's. hitting if you notice like whenever I. was going through he was Landing those. I'm still I'm roll you can roll them all. you can roll his shots.

off and I think that's why Glover. survived against him because he was. [ __ ] Glover up yeah no he was a. dangerous dude to this day he gave Jon. Jones some serious [ __ ] trouble and. Jon Jon destroyed his legs yeah he he. needed double knee surgery after that. fight both of his knees were destroyed. seen him in the wheelchair yeah crazy. Jon just destroyed his knees a sid kick. to the knees you know I mean Jon is so. good at that what one of them one of the. one of his knes they messed up he tried.

to kick JN and joh slid back and made. him Miss and he hyperextended his leg. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah he [ __ ] up both. knees in one fight and really was never. the same again I think he wins I think. he wins in pfl you think so I think he. wins yeah is that where he's going now. that's where he went yeah he did go. there he went to the pfl pfl is. interesting you know it's interesting to. have more options I just I wonder how. much longer they can keep putting out. that cash you know I don't know how much. money they're making I haven't seen them.

in a packed Arena I don't think they. have a packed Arena I don't think they. can sell a packed Arena maybe they can. sell if they get some bigger name. Fighters but you know Bellator pulls off. big places now and they they get big. numbers on television they got a million. for Fedor Ryan Bader too that's a lot. you know a million people watching you. that's a lot and so it's good it's good. for everybody the more There's real. competition the more how do you watch. Bellator fights you can watch it on CBS. you can watch it on Showtime yeah yeah I.

have it on my Direct TV to direct TV. looks for it whenever it comes up and it. records it for me but yeah I don't I'm. not I'm not as big a Bellator fan as. maybe I should be but I'm aware of. there's there's guys over there that are. real talented yeah the Johnny Elin that. middleweight dude my dog shout out. Johnny he's. legit Johnny uh we went down. went down to Florida for my boy saad's. birthday I met Johnny down there he's. cool dude yeah he's a cool dude and he's.

focused he's focused and driven he's one. of those guys that I got my eye on you. know I'm like that guy he could be he. could be a champion in any organization. he's got that kind of quality to him and. a real good wrestler yeah real good. wrestler and [ __ ] striking is nasty. too man when he beat gagar mousasi I. think that opened up a lot of people's. eyes cuz gagar is a [ __ ] assassin gay. guard is a smooth criminal that dude is. good and when he beat gay guard I was. like Wow and he beat gay guard on the. feet too like that was that was a big.

fight for for Johnny and I'm I'm I look. at him like that because gay guard after. gay guard had beat Chris Weidman and. Gard left and went over to to Bellator I. was like wow like I guess I guess we're. not going to see him in the UFC anymore. that sucks cuz I think gay guard I would. have loved to see Gard versus Anderson. or rather of Gard versus uh Israel I. would have loved to seen him versus. Robert Whitaker i' would have Lov to. seen him you know he's a lot of fun. match ups you. get and and he was right at that level.

where I'm thinking he might be the best. in the world he was like right there and. then he went over and won the Bellator. title and eventually lost to. elbin you know there's it's good to have. these other organizations though I. really I think that's it's great for the. fighters it's great for the fighters to. have fin options yeah I mean I don't. like I said I don't know where Francis. is going what I'm genuinely hopeful I. really hope Francis goes get some big.

money boxing match get successful then. we figure out who wins versus Jon Jones. and serial gone and then they offer him. what he's worth and then have him come. back and maybe they do like a you know. another world title fight with Francis. coming back I think the I think the. market and the landscape can change a. little bit with the the whole with Jake. Paul yeah signing with the pfl very it. brings it brings eyes it brings. attention which brings money yeah that's.

he might be the only guy that can really. waken up people to the pfl because he's. so popular in mainstream what if Francis. comes too oh yeah you have Francis oh. yeah oh yeah know what I'm saying I but. who's he gonna fight who do they have. over there to fight I'm like Francis. versus Jon Jones is the biggest fight. you can make that's especially if Jon. Jones can beat serial gone if Jon Jones. beats serial gone that is the biggest. heavyweight fight that's ever existed. who's on the way out the door in the UFC.

yeah that's the thing who is on the way. out the door who's on their way out but. there guys's on the way up like uh. Sergey pavlovich that dude's a bad. [ __ ] I was shocked by what he. did to tie I was shocked bro crazy right. I was like man what I know. patient so accurate accurate good yeah. bro yeah he's legit as [ __ ] and kind of. flying under the radar with main I can't. bet against him anymore because I bet. against him the last couple fights not.

bet yeah he's not betting gambling's. illegal for it's illegal yes we don't we. We Believe In following rules here we. follow all the rules well you could bet. back then right the gambling thing is a. recently illegal thing yeah [ __ ] that uh. yeah anytime I I done like picked. against him was. wrong I was wrong it's hard to tell. until he starts beating really good. people like this he doesn't look like he. moves his he's actually pretty quick.

yeah for you know I mean for for for a. heavyweight yeah I think this was a. fight I think I had Alis in this fight. oh yeah this piecing him up it was a. good fight and this was a fight where no. one knew who pavich was and alist took. him down wrestling Al alist Hammer. fisted him look at this Alistair had him. in [ __ ] serious trouble here look at. this that's it so Alistair stopped him. yeah he and then that was a lot of.

people's like understanding of who he is. and then he goes from that and then. starts going on a [ __ ]. tear wrestling alist when Alistair. started wrestling people that was a bad. dude bro well Alistair was a dangerous. [ __ ] man yeah but whenever he. started wrestling though like grappling. like actually taking dudes down putting. them on their back and yeah L off that. that was that was yeah look the guy has. the most one of the most incredible. careers in Combat Sports he fought in. Pride he fought in dream he was the.

dream heavyweight champion he won the K1. Grand Prix he won the strike force title. comes over to the UFC and you know. becomes one of the best heavyweights in. the world in the UFC too and now he's. back at Glory Kickboxing he just beat b. hary in a kickboxing fight it's like I. mean Alister has been doing the damn. thing for 20 plus years years at a at a. world class level it's pretty impressive. yeah it's like heavyweight Glover yeah. some in a lot of ways yeah just but he's.

just not as old just he just got his. start very young remember when aliser. first started fighting he was so skinny. yeah it was so skinny he was a twig but. he was ripped though he always he's. always been ripped as [ __ ] though yeah. but he was fighting at 205 Chuck Liddell. knocked him out at 205 and he was. beating Chuck up and Chuck caught him. against the ropes but again at. heavyweight for me inano versus the. winner of Jones and serial gone that's. the biggest fight you can make and I.

that's what I really hope I hope Francis. goes and gets some big money boxing. match and God forbid if he win if he. wins we'll probably never see him again. no probably not if he wins he'd just. probably be raking in the cash next. thing you see Francis covered in. diamonds. jewelry halfway naked on the back Sports. Illustrated yeah yeah look he could he. could do it the guy's main skill is his. striking so if if he wants to box I mean. you're dealing with a guy who's 265 lbs.

natural and he has to cut a little bit. of weight to make the 265 lb weight. limit in the UFC there's no weight limit. in boxing so he doesn't have to cut. anything Francis Francis had to cut to. make weight sometimes Francis was over. 265 I wouldn't say cut I would say like. watch his food and watch but you know. you know I talked to Eric nixi at one. point in time he was over. 290 damn Jesus that's a big fella that's. a lot of horsepower behind those.

punches bang I man bro himb and Tyson. Fury bro it's a bad idea I think. personally it's a bad idea it's a good. idea if you want a lot of zeros in your. bank account right right right but like. but to be humiliated yes I hurt your. brain yeah because said he could have. weighed 307 here oh my God was that. after his uh knee surgery uh August it. might have been after his knee surgery.

yeah so it's probably you know I mean. honest I'd rather fight that Francis. than in shape ready ready and on point. Francis yeah for sure yeah but no. Tyson's a big dude he's he's big he you. see he's given up the size 69ine and not. only that he knows how to box he knows. the signs behind the P he knows the. signs behind the counters he knows the. signs behind the setups that's that's. not that's not something then you're. coming into his world that's not. something to play with bro and he's. going to keep you on the end of that. stick for as long as he can and he's.

going to box you up and he's going to. clinch you whenever he can I was all. about to say as soon as you try as soon. as you try to wind up big you try to. land big he's just going to tie up tie. you up yeah and there is no oh we'll. fight we'll fight to get loot there is. none of that yeah it's just a restart. and then with Francis the other thing is. like if you fight someone who's a lesser. named opponent and loses that fight. that's terrible so it's almost like he's. got to jump right into the deep end of. the. pool but I think right now Tyson Fury is.

concentrating on the usyk fight and that. seems like it's going to happen so if. Tyson Fury fights usyk you know that. kind of like leaves Francis in limbo and. that's why I think they're talking about. Deontay Wilder right see if that is real. only Wilder said it in an interview he. said he wants to do a one-on-one. and there I don't think when has. responded to that yet I was at it okay. so he's just putting it out there I know. there was some talk I think there was. some talk of dillian white too there's.

some talk of like some other Top Flight. heavyweights but that's the problem is. like those guys are [ __ ] good man. like if Francis get exposed in one of. those fights and you know can't box with. those guys then all that big money goes. away because the big money is Francis is. the Destroyer he show his highlight reel. The Knockout he didn't want to do yeah. the the boxing thing yeah look I get it. from their. perspective I don't know if that was the. major sticking point I don't I'm not. privy to the negotiations but in my mind.

like that's the best heavyweight in the. world and you gotta you know when the. guy beats serial Gan handily with one. knee and then you see serial Gan. fighting in his next fight for the title. I want to see the serial Gan fight look. serial Gan versus Tai tuivasa was. amazing siral Gan is a heavyweight he. moves different than any other. heavyweight anybody light on his feet he. throws that weird front kick off that. front leg it's like a stepping man yeah. it's nasty too that's a lead that's from. his lead leg yep so it's like he's.

standing sideways he's stabbing you with. it and he twists with it when he throws. it like he's standing totally sideways. he's standing this way and he's bouncing. around and he like twists and stabs you. with that front. leg you in your. kidney yeah he stabs dudes and his. movement and his agility at heavyweight. is different than everybody else's he. moves like a middleweight or a. lightweight I mean or like a light. heavyweight he's he's much lighter on. his feet than someone who's you know in.

the heavyweight division mostly it's. different yeah he's a problem he's a. problem and he's a big dude he's a big. dude so the the the fact John won't be. able to to just bully him yeah he won't. be able to Big Boy him you know and I'm. I'm interested to see that see that um G. has no problem chopping at Jon's leg so. yeah I think I think we got I think for. a good portion maybe even in the early. part we might see a kick leg a leg. kicking match could be could be I don't.

know if John wants to kick to kick with. that guy though no but that might be all. he can get to for you know I mean well. Francis took him down repeatedly that's. where I go hm because if Jon Jones can. wrestle you like John's wrestle on. another level that's see and that that's. a there's a difference and there this. the difference where people made between. son. in the Glover with me right is Jon Jones. as strong as Fran as Francis Ando no no. that's you got to factor that in you got.

to factor that in CU Glover one thing. Glover wasn't as strong as as as Thiago. Santos now technically skill for skill. I'd give the grappling to Glover right. but Santos was strong as [ __ ] so it took. a different type of like like resistance. and like defense. to you know I mean to fight to fight him. to fight him off from his takedowns you. know what I'm saying I had to actually. strain and be strong with him you know. which took took which took some energy.

took some things out of me that I wasn't. expecting CU I was expecting us to come. out and bang right you know. um uh Glover Glover was making technical. moves so it's all right this step to the. next step to the next step type deal you. know that's not really that's not going. to strain you too too much right you. know it can it's especially if you get. behind you know um but those but that's. different though those are two different. styles of grappling so so that really.

don't work like oh he was able to do. this so he's gonna be able. to I don't Jones is isn't his strong as. Francis no so a lot of those positions. that he was getting where he was getting. serial gone down he was just he just. bullied him like just tossed him yeah. you know what I'm saying I don't think. Jon Jones can do that also you got to. think that sirial gone going into that. fight with Francis probably didn't. expect grappling no serial gone probably. thought this was going to be a stand up. fight I believe it I I did I expected. Francis to Grapple a little more did you.

I did just because s moves too much he. moves too much how is she going to get a. hold of him and try to you know I mean. slow the fight down to your pace you got. to grab him yeah I mean that's yeah. that's that's true that's one way of. looking at it but you know Francis said. that during the sparring exchanges that. they had when they were training. together in the gym he he hurt sir. training isn't the same thing cuz you. know you're not trying to be a dick to. your partner you're not trying to hurt. your partner you're just trying to get. looks and things like that so like. training is not the same thing well.

luckily now you know it's interesting. where we're at now because Fighters are. so much more scientific in the way they. trained but if you go back to the early. days of MMA oh yeah that's how they did. it dudes just fought they fought in the. gym they knocked each other out all the. time that's when Sean strickling yeah. well Sean strickling that guy [ __ ]. spars hard yeah he keeps asking he's. asking me if I want to if uh I want to. get some work in I think we going to. have to get some in yeah he's an. interesting. cat he's peculiar yeah he's definitely.

peculiar his style is so different too. it's a very OD sty I like the way he. fights like Watch Fight he's funny as. hell yeah he's funny I hate his boots. his boots [ __ ] boots what kind of. boots is he wearing I don't know they. look. terrible all right I've never seen his. boots throw your boots away Sean what's. wrong with his boots what are they like. bro they just look like those things. yeah bro they got to go why is you. wearing those boots in this fighter. picture that's so weird it's Vegas bro.

it's Vegas bro it's hot as [ __ ] why do. you have boots yeah for no reason should. you live in Vegas and own a pair of. boots yeah are you are you working on a. construction site like why you boots on. like that are you hiking he's he's uh. he's misappropriation Mis uh. misappropriating uh. construction workers yeah his big. victory over IM imov that's that was a. big fight big fight and you know gutted. it out short term you know like didn't.

have a lot of time to prepare for that. fight that was the one after New Year's. right was that before or I. was the last fight of the year I mean no. no he fought the he headlined the the. last and the last one of last year and. the first one of this year yeah so that. was so yeah so that was the beginning. that was January right that was. but he had just fought like two weeks. before that like and you let me fight a. little heavier like like I would I would. agree most people could probably do that. that's true too right most professional.

fighters most top level Fighters you. know if two weeks after you fought. you're not that bad off shape even if. you've been eating like [ __ ] you're. still you know I mean you're still. sitting pretty good who is OV supposed. to fight Kelvin gastam yes yes and. that's a way different fight too right. cuz Calvin's shorter you know I mean he. leans a little four he's a little bit. more boxer he comes to you he comes to. you a little more whereas Sean fights. really long and like kind of awkward and. gives you different like angles and. kelvin's one of those dudes I had a.

conversation with Kelvin once I was like. Kelvin you could be a world champion at. 170 you just got to get your [ __ ]. together you just got to lose that. weight cuz like he's such a tank yeah. you know and at 170 like he would be. lean and ripped and and has all these. advantages the same size those dudes are. that's the only thing about 185 those. are too tall they're just too big. they're too big they're too big for him. to you know when you see Peta I mean. he's so big and you know kelvin's my. size like it doesn't make sense that.

he's fighting at 185 see who I don't I. don't see I don't see nobody Joe oh you. don't see him I don't see him Joe when. you guys were staring at each other. after the fight that was a weird moment. we weren't even staring at each other. literally I walked up Glover went over. to shake my team's hand I walked up to. shake his hand the whole like thing that. him getting mad about the uh like the uh. the whole what you gonna say about. knocking what about knocking me out dude. I said that [ __ ] months ago and yeah I. said it I said this [ __ ] I believe this. [ __ ] you come up to 205 you sign a.

contract to fight me I plan on knocking. you the [ __ ] out period you know I I. don't get what he's like he's like all. like well maybe heill should be the. backup for me and me and Izzy fight and. all that like bro if you want to fight. me like for real for real come up go. ahead get go go ahead vacate your your. belt do whatever you going to do. whatever you want to do and make it. happen bro make it happen I'm. not I'm not ducking nobody bro I'm here. for all the smoke I want to fight.

everybody I want those fights you know I. don't think he gets past Izzy this time. you know what I mean I think Izzy wins. this one really you know just bro he was. winning he was win he was he was winning. in pretty good fashion he was winning. and he had him hurt real bad at the end. of that first round real bad if that. fight if you got 30 seconds more in that. fight he might not make it out of that. first round 10 10 If he if he if he if. that uh if he throws that hook that he. was going to throw and that land the. fight's over yeah interesting rematch.

interesting and that's April right. that's Miami that's a that's going to be. wild man if I got any like my only my. only only thing I only thing like I. would I would do differently like I I'm. not definitely 100% not telling them how. to fight or anything like that you know. what I'm saying um don't don't Focus so. much on the kicks just box his ass m. Alex can't. box he can't. box box his ass and you knock him out. easy you think so yeah really.

interesting the problem is Alex is. kicking you know he's always CH those. [ __ ] legs people kick people kicking. me people thought I could only box for. all this time so H so I'm going be. honest with you kicking it if if you if. you stay on the right angles and you. press the and you press that boxing. range enough kicking don't help you. that's going on one leg if if I'm in. range to put to put these hands on you. and you go up on one leg you just did me. a. favor yeah I'm saying a little too much. but I can say this and I still I'm still.

gonna whoop his ass if it ever happens. so if they fight again and Alex W even. if Alex loses if he loses maybe that's a. good reason for him to go up to light. heavyweight but also if it's a close. fight he's going to want a rubber match. R match you're going to want a rubber. match I mean he beat Izzy for the title. and the fifth round stopped him in the. you get but do you do that though if he. didn't defend the belt like what's up. with all this like like that'd be like. if I lo like if I if I fought my next. fight and then like it was a close fight.

and I lost do I get a rematch just. because the fight was. close like whatever happened to it to. like you I mean earning the rematch like. establishing the Reign showing like I. think rematch rematch most Champs that. get instant rematches was because it's. like all right this dude's the best in. the world maybe he just had an off night. well I think it's because we want to see. it again because it was so close we want. to see like me as a person who loves. watching like really skillful guys go at. it I want to see who makes the.

adjustments and who does it like like. Max Hall and volkanovski it's a perfect. example the first fight real close. volkanovski comes on and wins a second. fight also pretty close the third fight. no but he fought he fought zombie in. between yes true true you know so it's. like it's like so somebody else got that. got a shot you know he got a little a. little taste of a different flavor if. you will you know and. um I don't know if well [ __ ] well the. fact that Izzy has completely wiped out.

the entire weight class might yeah I. Manan [ __ ] it might happen actually I. think of it like that it does make sense. it makes sense well Robert Whitaker. Robert Whitaker in that last fight with. Izzy that was very close close very. close and that's a great example of a. guy who got destroyed in the first fight. and made all the adjustments made great. adjustments beat caner who's [ __ ]. dangerous as [ __ ] dangerous as [ __ ] and. then went on and gave Izzy a really. [ __ ] tough fight that was a really. tough fight I like that fight a lot I.

think um Whitaker is a dangerous fight. for um paja too I think he is too I. think D think Whitaker is actually a. more dangerous fight than I he is. because one because Rob actually does. box a little more and two um the angles. the angles and the angles of the. movement and the mix and the mix in the. way he mixes in the grab he almost. fights like a karate style light on his. feet it's like a it's like a like almost. like a like a bobing in and. out and then it faints and the minute. you buy something he oh he sell you he.

sell you he give you what you pay for he. give you what you pay for and he blitzes. you and I think he's in a different you. at an angle he bites you off at an angle. so it's pretty this is not taking. anything away from Izzy but I feel like. Robert was in a funk then I feel like it. wasn't fighting to the best of his. abilities and he just fought right into. to Izzy's hands in that fight and also. that's putting it on I think Izzy's. presence kind of put kind of stun kind. of stuns shocks people like you know. what I mean he is a Izzy may look like. on TV he may look skinny but in person.

Izzy is a pretty big dude he's talls. hard accurate as you know what I'm. saying he's he's solid like people like. skinny skinny don't mean [ __ ] if it's. just straight dense muscle right you. know what I'm saying so like he's he's. got he's got some he's got some sides to. him so he does have like some like oh. okay cuz Rob is like what 61 yeah you. know what I mean like MH is he's my size. yeah yeah he's he's a big tall dude you. know I thought it was interesting when. he fought Yan bovich he decided to not.

even gain any weight just decided to. fight like he weigh like 190 that was a. mistake I think that was a big that was. a mistake but honestly Yan started. catching his timing with some of like. the um with the standup too like he. started that little I think it was like. a jab like a little little quick little. pop like little pop jab he he started. landing at to disrupt his timing and. disrupt whenever is he was coming. forward so he had some success with that. but. um yeah man uh.

Izzy definitely should have ganked some. away for that fight cuz then at the end. whenever you started to get tired and. now the main thing that you had was was. speed CU I believe Izzy was Landing a. hook lead hook lead lead left hook was. lead left hook or switch right hook one. of those one of those sides he was. Landing that on bovich and he was. Landing it uh he was Landing it pretty. solid then just went to the wrestling. and when bovich took him down you see. the size difference he was so much.

bigger yeah but you see the side. difference with paja too peta's way. bigger skinny though he's thinner he's. he's he is pretty muscular he's he's. muscular but he's like he's taller but. he's like he's like he's thinner like. for 20 for for 185 yeah he's like that. but you put him at 205 he's not. he's not like that you I think he's dly. the same height as Johnny Walker is he. built like Johnny Walker no no no you. know I mean even when he's out of camp. and he's like oh he walks around 220. he's still he still he still looks.

relatively thin in comparison to Johnny. Walker yeah Johnny Walker is a real. outlier in that light heavyweight. division well [ __ ] he's still thin as a. as opposed compar to anybody else in the. 205 division p is yeah yeah interesting. if he does that if he gains more weight. like what he what do he decide to do I. mean I don't know I mean he he was. talking about fighting hamzat you. remember he said I'll fight you at light. heavyweight cuz hamzat was like you know. let's fight in Brazil but he's like look. I can't make the weight on short notice.

like that which is interesting like how. much time does he need to make that. weight he's cutting a lot of weight how. much time has it been on average in. between his fights he's had some time. but I mean you know uh I don't know like. how big he got after the Izzy fight he. might have just like ate like a pig and. just realize like hey it's going to take. me a few weeks just to get this weight. off not sure you know but it's it's a. fascinating rematch and uh you know. Izzy's just so intelligent and he's so.

clever and that he doesn't I mean he's. not taking this fight unless he thinks. he could beat him again and he's got to. he's GNA try to figure out some way I. think he does. um honestly if I think Izzy if Izzy kind. of. like a little bit more of a vul approach. just all right I'm going to be faster. let you let you let you open up first. and then make you pay for whatever you. do and then just kind of shut down. anything that he wants to do like from. the beginning like and play it from that.

type of way while mixing in maybe like. maybe like the threat of like a takedown. the threat of like a tie up and things. like that that's different yeah well he. definitely won the grappling exchanges. yeah and he had him in bad trouble when. he had his back and he was beating him. up and you know that was unexpected. interesting to see Izzy become a. Grappler too you know that's why that's. another thing like everybody thinks like. like oh p is uh P will be BR like bro he. can't grapple with.

me he. can't anybody thinks that I can't. wrestle remember when y'all thought I. couldn't grapple or couldn't get up from. bottom like it's like. bro I'm excited bro I'm really excited. so many good fights for you man yeah I'm. excited just to just was this Camp. preparing for the title I know that you. had brought in a nutritionist to to to. work with you is that the first time you. had done that yeah yeah what was that. like it was great bro it was U it was a.

game changer yeah he was um he he's a. nutritionist and a personal chef Ian Ian. L. uh I be forgetting how to pronounce his. last name uh Jam you will find it laros. I think it's Larios Ian. Larios um he. he he comes in he he stay stayed at my. house he um he cooks all my food he. makes everything for me I don't have to. like all I got to do is just eat what he. tells me puts this in front of me like.

yo eat this and it's good food like it's. legitimately like some like I got like. pictures and stuff of of theu making Ian. Larios yeah bro Chef to the world's top. fighters and so uh like what was. different in the way he was having you. eat versus the way uh you you were. eating previous ly uh I just I wasn't. eating enough you know I uh in order to. eat at a calorie deficit for me to me. you you just ate less you ate the right. things and then I just ate I knew how to.

portion my things you know so like I was. certain things that I ate I knew what to. eat and I knew how to get my way to. where I wanted and that's what I was. doing and granted throughout the camp I. felt weak as [ __ ] you know just because. I wasn't giving myself the enough carbs. enough energy sometimes on certain for. certain weeks I just do a keto diet and. I wouldn't even eat carbs you know um he. came in was like no you need carbs this. is what you're going to do and I never. felt weak once during the camp really I. felt tired I felt beat up a little bit. you know a little wear and tear from.

from going from doing two a days for a. whole week but I never felt drained I. never felt. weak and that was game CH that was a. game changer and what was the difference. in terms of the types of foods that he. was having to eat you said he added. carbs but like what what were you eating. exactly I was bro I was eating. everything I was eating steak he made I. think he made chicken wings once um he. made like. some it's like he just made like he he. made a bunch of different things like.

like some Peru like made like proven. ditch homemade like tater tots you know. just different things but the way he. makes them and like the sauces he puts. on them is like it's almost like you. eating at a restaurant it's almost like. you eating at a fivestar restaurant. every meal there it is look at that damn. he puts a little drizzle on the plate. and everything oh yeah bro that's how. that's how he played it that's how he. was plating it to me like like every. time so it's exciting so you're looking. forward to it oh yeah oh yeah if I could. if I could have got him to come and stay.

with me now he'd still be with me you. know what I mean like like like I'd. rather eat the food like it's it's it's. like that it's just like but it's all. good it's like the some of the best food. I've ever eaten you know and um I was. full you know I ate took I ate it was. just there bro so he's taking into. consideration the amount of calories. that you're burning the amount of. calories you're going to get from each. individual meal the protein compet yeah. everything everything and he makes.

everything from everything from scratch. so he gets everything fresh everything. is organic he makes all the sauces. himself he makes all the uh everything. so you think you'll be using him for. future Camp I'll never I'll never do a. camp without him wow I'll never do. another Camp without him that's. interesting what a big change yeah and. I'll bring I'm going bring him out even. earlier next Camp wow how many weeks was. he with you for this um he was with me. just under four weeks so when you think. about um different things that you have. added over the years um what about.

strength and conditioning like how much. how much do you do with that and how. much of it like fight fight specific. training honestly honestly this last. Camp I didn't do any strength and. conditioning really really no outside of. maybe doing the skier and then like. hitting doing like the bike just to like. warm up and get from my first few rounds. to get a sweat going um I do a lot of. fight specific things like I do a lot of. rolling a lot of drilling uh a lot of. sparring really yeah no strength and.

conditioning I didn't KN anything you. had great [ __ ] cardio yeah well well. I still worked I mean my strength my. strength and conditioning was me going. hard rounds fresh body so like so like. one of the things we'll do is this right. so I my my job was to defend takedowns. and be able to defend a Relentless. takeown uh attack so what we'll do we. put it we'll do minute round minute uh. minute intervals so my. uh my uh my my my grappling coach and.

Main strong uh training partner Justin. Andrews he'll come in he'll start in. we'll start we'll start on start in on a. single leg all right I have to defend. the single leg defend the taked down. defend the takedown he's going to go as. hard as he can for a minute once that. minute is up we got fresh body coming in. once that minute is up fresh body coming. in fresh body so I have about like five. like like five or six dudes lined up and. we're just fresh body every minute you. know so that's how we do we go we go. like that I'll do we'll do that for.

maybe like an hour and then um I go over. to striking then I go and I'll strike. for like an hour in the same session mhm. really yeah then I I'll leave go home uh. recover or go to PT or whatever get my. get my recovery in eat probably take a. catch a nap before second I go back and. I do it again same thing same. thing work work my grappling not the. exact same thing but working grappling. working different parts of grappling. drilling things like that fresh body and.

then rolling sparring fresh body even. even sparring so even when I'm sparring. well we'll go we'll go say how depend on. how many guys I got you know one I'm you. go a minute you'll go like a minute and. a half then fresh body minute minute. minute half fresh body minute minute. half fresh body so it's always somebody. else fresh so they can always be on. point and then I just you. know I got to work my I got to adjust. it's interesting the the different. approaches when it comes to like how.

much time should you be spending on. doing strength and conditioning work. versus fight specific work and some. people like yourself to just get all of. their conditioning done through fight. specific work because that's what George. St Pierre turned to later in his career. like George early on his career he was. doing a lot of strength and conditioning. training and then somewhere along the. line he realized that efficiency was. most important and that you get that. from training yeah and you you get that. fight specific cardio from doing the. grappling rounds doing the the you know. the sparring rounds doing the rounds in.

the bag yeah 100% yeah it's like U even. like and then everything every like we I. always put myself at a disadvantage so. like we uh we we'll get through that. we'll get through that session now the. next session is I got to let I got to. start from the bottom and sometimes. it'll be sitting up back up against the. back up against the wall wall and they. got your legs you got to go from there. you know like I already got your legs. completely pinned so now you so now I. have to get up from there and then the. next minute another fresh guy is coming. to get on my legs to restart me in the.

same SP the same way you know that's. that's how we do we work there we work. we work we work all positions work all. facets of where we want to be proficient. at and do it to you so you got to you. got to be able to do it when yall both. full strength the full guy com at and. when you get tired and he's still got. more more than you he's fresh you know. you still got to be able to do it now. what about in between camps do you do. any like weightlifting kettle bells any. yoga anything in between camps to just.

like sort of strengthen areas and you. know prevent injuries or anything along. those lines I haven't been that's. something that I uh that uh we are going. to going add I had I had a strength and. condition and Coach actually for the. Jimmy crew and the Johnny Walker fight. you know um just kind of gotten away. from it because like the last year I've. really been dealing with like a lot of. injuries like my body's been beat up. more the last year than it's ever been. like what kind of injuries. man all type of things bro like elbows.

Shoulders Knees ankles like it's really. like this tago Santos fight too like I. didn't really do any strength and. condition I didn't I did pretty much no. strength and condition and then minimal. even really like hard like gra like hard. smart hard anything for uh for the. Santos fight just because bro I was so I. was so beat up my body was so beat up. that I just had to make sure I can get. to the fight and feel good just you I. mean feel healthy in the fight so that.

was the main focus for that one. so in it show it a little bit you know I. did get a I got a little tired in the. fight you know and things like that but. you know I still had enough had what I. needed to finish the fight late in the. fourth round so that just let me that. was also a thing that just let me know. like all right bro you got it so just. make sure you put in the work put in and. then you really got it yeah even under. less than ideal circumstances you know. with injuries and dealing with stuff you. could still win against a top guy yeah.

yeah that was the whole laying back I. belong yeah yeah so that was a big. moment for you yeah you know I was like. I don't I don't complain and I don't I. don't make excuses or nothing like that. so like most of the stuff I deal with I. just don't say anything you know I just. I just deal with it cuz I really truly. got the mentality feeling who cares you. know what I'm saying so you need that. yeah that's a giant Advantage CU guys. who fret over every little thing that's. going wrong and it starts spiraling they.

go in a downward spiral in their head. like oh I'm injured I can't I wish I was. not injured I wish I you if you can just. deal and just keep and just get to the. fight that's a giant Advantage yeah man. that was that was the main that just the. main thing I I do it's just. what do you what are you doing for. Recovery do you get massages do you do. cold plunge do you do saunas yeah I get. massages like um this last like this.

last time with Glover I felt good. everything went went good I had a um. have a teammate uh she she's gone to. school she's a she's a uh licensed. massage therapist like uh does Health. massage uh sports massage and things. like that so she would come in she came. in in the mornings and she was massaging. me before before training and then after. that I leave there and I go to physical. therapy i' be there for a couple hours. and yeah then U ice bath what do you go. to physical therapy for H what do you go.

to physical therapy for injuries just a. little weird stuff got all all the [ __ ]. you're dealing with yeah so you're just. dealing with it while you're in the. middle of Camp Which is less than ideal. right. yeah yeah and you're doing cold plunges. and saunas I do the cold plunge whenever. I go out to Vegas but um that's it. yeah we got a we have a uh what it the. cryo cryo cryotherapy those are I'm. going I go to the cryo there I do ice. bath here and there like honestly for.

the most part bro it's a [ __ ] winter. in Michigan all you got to do is just go. outside man [ __ ] cold PL get in your. pool you know what I'm saying put a. bucket of water outside and just go sit. in that you a got to put a bucket of. water out there just go out just go step. out there yeah just go step out there. right in your underwear man not even you. could be fully dressed go ahead just. step out there you going to knock some. inflammation out that's true right. that's true that's true matter just you. could stand still with in 30 minutes.

like outside with 30 degrees out in your. underwear just stand still you'd knock. it all out man listen this dude's in. Michigan I'm me I live in Grand Rabbids. bro so you could be literally a blizzard. you walking just see a dude walking on a. T-shirt and some shorts just so used to. it yeah over that's too used to it fam. has two use over here dude they had a a. rain it was like 33° and it shut the. whole [ __ ] City down it was like what. do we do 33° freezing rain freezing rain.

is very very dangerous out it's. hilarious I was like dude I grew up in. Boston this is this ain't [ __ ] nothing. this is normal you go to work you ever. came outside not be able to find your. car covered in snow which one's your car. you have to like go the side panel nope. this one's blue this one's white no. where's my red car right you got to get. all right this one's red got to go to. the back a.

Toyota a Toyota and then you got to. scrape the windshield like there's a lot. it's terrible man it's so shoveling. yourself but it makes resilient people. people that glow grow up in cold. climates they are much more resilient. people people that live in California. they don't know [ __ ] about weather got. to endure man it's about. you got you got to be able to endure. then we uh we moved close enough to the. school to where it was a walk but was no. bus coming to get you. oh how many you ever woke up late you.

ever woke up late for school and it's. snowing outside. bro yeah you got to hurry up Rush before. you even get out you walk outside they. got to try to turn against the wind. trying to turn trying to hide from the. wind in warm weather they don't know. about that wind those Hawaii people they. have no idea about that wind they. rain rain Yes rain [ __ ] walk. your ass out and get wet a little bit.

[ __ ] right what about three feet of snow. in front of your door where you can't. open your door to get outside I had to I. had to. um I think I posted it on my on my Tik. Tok video it's snowed it snowed bro I. opened my garage dude it's like 3 feet. of snow there so now I just got to get. out there just like hell no hell. no it's a serious workout snow sh it was. it was [ __ ] was Heavy especially when it.

gets wet that wet snow oh get stick. that's why you got to get out and get it. while it's coming down so it don't stick. yeah cuz once it. sticks now you out there for your cold. plunge just [ __ ] lay down that snow. that'll reduce the [ __ ] out of some. information only thing is though even. when you go inside it still don't stop. and it hurts a little bit yeah it does. are you uh do you take supplements are. you taking vitamins and minerals and.

here's you that's some serious that's. work too though that's a good I was on. my way to training I was on my way to. the gym to go do a uh to go do a uh two. hour uh grappling and striking. workout hard work it's I I really firmly. believe it makes better people I think. people that grow up in cold climates. they just they just can deal with more. [ __ ] they're just used to it yeah. man I ain't gonna say that what you GNA.

say one day you're gonna get out of. there when you got a lot of money man. when you start stacking up some big. victories and you why the [ __ ] am I. freezing why am I cold like why am I. cold like I like I've been gone I think. I left I've been gone for like I think. maybe like a week now. I haven't been home for like a week it's. too cold bro too cold I've been in Vegas. I've been in AZ I'm here so nice hang. around a little bit here for a little. while longer it's birds are chirping you.

know sunny weather I I heard a bird I. heard a bird it was outside it's like I. was like I was like what is that I was. like I was like is that an alarm clock I. got to check in my phone I was like oh. oh it's a. bird real bird that's nice yeah go. outside go outside already for the and. it's warm I wore a t-shirt when I got. here Joe I wore a t-shirt out the. airport when I got here yeah it's like. 70 degrees out it's beautiful beautiful.

do you think that you you have an. advantage though and like suffering and. being in cold weather like. that I think it makes me a little I'm. more used to dealing with adversity yeah. 100% especially in a physical context. because you know you got to think we. play I played football so you know you. play football out in that in the cold. one yeah you know that's that's. different yeah when you watch a football. game it's just like a blizzard out like. that is a wild sport it makes me mad now.

like I. wouldn't I just I I get I get really. judgmental Joe I get real. judge then when they don't have any. sleeves on you think you're better than. the rest of us you think you're better. oh you got thicker skin okay okay I. wonder how they do that like dude it's. like literally coming out blizzard they. stand out. there look like they smoking 12 packs of. cigarettes no sleeves no sleeves yeah no.

sleeves yeah like come on bro Wisconsin. people what do you have to prove yeah. look at that what do you have to prove. no shirts what no Shir hand warmers hand. warmers gloves why don't they have. shirts on like what is the purpose of. that on how [ __ ] badass they are just. to let everybody know how jacked they. are they're ready to go ready to I'm not. going to lie your muscles do do look you. ever notice that when ever you get out. of a cryo chamber like how yeah bro if. you actually feel your muscles feel. harder yeah but your whole body is.

like look like killmonger and [ __ ] with. all the bumps on your. body are you taking do you take. supplements you take vitamins you on top. of all that yeah do you have someone who. like monitors that for you and sets your. schedule and what to take and what you. know when to take it stuff I kind of do. it myself but no while Ian was there he. you know he he kind of stays on that as. well what kind of stuff you taking like. multivitamins yeah multivitamins fish. oil K oil turmeric. um I got some.

aminos. uh yeah pretty much have you ever. thought about doing a camp at um the. performance. Institute I have I have cuz they have so. many resources that are available it's a. beautiful thing to have that thing for. the UFC where the UFC Pi has this. amazing setup with all these experts and. great nutrition and all this equipment. and great great facilities to train out.

yeah yeah I went in and got the I went. and got the test you know where they. test out your body how far your neck. turns how far you can look this way how. far you can bend this way can you touch. your toes can your toes touch you you. know just all those things so I've been. to uh I've been I've gotten those and. then at the end of that they give you. like an assessment like hey your body. has this is here you can lift here do. this exercise yeah so they really I know. I know how helpful and how deep they get. down into everything so yeah it's about. as scientific as you can get the fact.

that it's available to all fighters that. they could just train there anytime they. want that's giant yeah for. sure so youve thought about it I've. thought about it this just the being out. there you know I got six kids bro so. like being being all the way out there. do about my kids and things yeah that's. a bummer man when I know lot some guys. they they go away and they do these. Mountain camps like they go to Big Bear. or something like that and they train. for months away from their family I'm. like I know that you don't want a. distraction but how much does that take. away from you as a person like how do.

you feel when you're up there like how. much do you miss your family yeah I mean. I I think while you're busy you're like. you're not really distracted all right. but then whenever you stop doing stuff. and then like it be something small like. somebody else SE their kid or you see a. kid or you see something like oh my kid. might like that or something he like. damn yeah he just started missing him. yeah yeah the life of a fighter it's not. not an easy Road my friend but you're on. one of the best paths that you can get.

World [ __ ]. Champion Hill no matter what happens. they can't take that from you man not. Joe not the not the. town not the city not the county not the. state not the country not the continent. but the world the whole planet the whole. planet the whole planet and if you're. the UFC champion you're the real. Champion there's a lot of Champions out. there best in the world that's the best. in the world Jamal Hill you [ __ ] made.

that's crazy well listen man thank you. very much for being here I'm a fan and. I'm I'm really looking forward to seeing. your title defenses and and seeing you. continue to chase Excellence it's. beautiful beautiful watch having me man. my pleasure been trying to get on here. trying to get in here with you for a. minute Joe we're here I thought I. thought the first time we was going to. be in the same room I thought it would. have been on Fear Factor you. know back cuz back whenever you were you. a kid you broke in the hood you watch. your fear fact you.

like e that bug really ain't that bad I. can use I can use I can use $50,000 I. can use $50,000 well this is even. sweeter to do it this way oh yeah. definitely thank you sir appreciate you. brother appreciate all right bye. everybody. [Music]. [Applause]. [Music].