JRE MMA Show #134 with Belal Muhammad

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. day we're up what's happening brother. how you doing good man how you been very. good to see you excited man it's one of. those Milestones that you you achieve. it's like I get to talk to joean yeah. hilarious that's hilarious man well it's. it's an honor to have you on I. appreciate you appreciate I'm a big fan.

uh you're in a great spot right now man. you're you're on the Run you're like. you're you're there you're like at the. [ __ ] door you know yeah it's been a. long road it's like yeah when I look. back at it where where I've been and. where I'm at right now like you still. don't even like believe it but it's like. I still need to get over that hurdle. where people still don't believe in you. still people still looking for excuses. of why you beat this guy why you beat. that guy why you don't deserve the title. shot but isn't that always the case and. then all of a sudden you're the [ __ ]. man like that was Charles Oliva right. from.

time people thought he falls apart he. falls apart and then all sudden. everybody had to go you know what he's. the [ __ ] man you know until Islam got. a hold of him he was you know he was. like a completely different entity than. he was like back when Cub Swanson. knocked him out yeah when you look at. the way his career is the way like. people don't give him enough credit for. that and the way he dominated some of. the best guys God once he was in his. Title reign when he beat gaii the the. way he beat Chandler I mean my God but. you mean now people know how good Islam. is people wer respecting him the same.

way I feel like I'm not getting. respected and then now when he plays. with him like that beats him on the feet. and then finishes him on the ground I. think that now people are realizing all. right well Islam isn't all talk like. when DC and all of them are saying that. like he's going to be better than khabib. now they're realizing it anybody said it. was all talk is a fool if if you watch. the way he submitted Drew Dober he just. smooshed him yeah I'm like there was no. getting up there there was it was just a. a matter of time before he put the smos. down on him training with those guys I.

tell people I'm like if you never train. with the guys from Dagan from somebody. on their team you don't know what it. feels like it's not it's not regular. Jiu-Jitsu like it's like quicksand where. you're in there you think you're moving. you're looking for a way out uh you know. I'm I'm really good at flow rolling and. everything and I'm training with them my. last camp and I'm like I cannot move to. the with these guys none of them like. everybody on their team has that same. style same uh uh pressure on top and I'm. feeling it and I'm like I need to change. what I do in Chicago I need to change. what I'm doing because these guys are so.

dominant with the way they play the way. they uh grapple it's like they're going. to beat everybody nobody's going to mess. with them what is the. difference for well for the mentality I. think is a big thing too uh you know. when you're rolling with somebody new. you you'll get a flow roll with them. you'll play around to see how they're. feeling uh with them they don't have. that at all it's I'm not going to lose a. round I'm not going to lose a minute. when I'm going against you if I'm going. to this is our first time roll with each. other you know I'm on my back I'm going. to my back starting on my back and I'm. like all right let's let's move so I'm.

trying to play like uh guard trying to. go for iron bar or anything like that. and then khabib just like me get up. we're not playing Jiu-Jitsu this is get. up this is MMA we're not playing. jiujitsu not you're on your back you're. losing and their mentality is let me. hold you down because I'm not going to. lose this round I'm gonna to stay on top. of you I don't care if I'm in your guard. the whole time and I'm just staying on. top of you with pressure you just lost. even though the the round's over I'm. sitting there like man we haven't done. anything it's like I'm just laying on my. back you haven't done any pressure no. ground upon or anything but I just lost. because I'm on my back figure that's.

their mentality they don't want to lose. any round in practice they don't want to. lose any minute in grappling if they get. taken down they're popping right back up. it's not let me get taken down let me. play on my back a little bit let me flow. a little bit like that no it's rough. hard hard hard hard hard and I think. that's what transfers their mentality. into the the the cage when there's no. there's no let me warm up here it's like. right into it kabib goes in there he. grabs you he holds you down you don't. you never felt it before cuz his. strength is another level and that's why. I feel like a lot of these guys break.

once they feel it I would be really. interested to see I mean the the best. guy off his back arguably in the. lightweight division is Ola and Ola. really couldn't do anything with Islam I. mean he really he he gave you know some. difficulties he made it he got into the. second round it was like it was work but. he didn't really threaten you know where. he threatens everybody off his back. that's the thing about Ola is like he'll. catch you on the feet and he'll trade. with you on the because if you drop him.

he like gladly goes to his back to. invite you into his guard yeah but with. Islam he couldn't do a damn thing yeah a. lot of those guys before Islam were. afraid to go to the ground with him like. gatei dropped him a couple times. Chandler dropped him and like they stood. up it's because you're you you had that. fear with Islam it was like I don't care. he's going to feel what it is on the. ground like they always say [ __ ] is. better than Jiu-Jitsu and he just has. that mentality like I want to beat you. at your own game and the way he tapped. him out from half guard with that arm. I'm like nobody's ever treated ala like.

that well that squeeze must be another. level yeah I was rolling with like I. would roll with him and that first week. he's catching me with like an anaconda. choke every time I'm going with him and. it's just squeezing squeezing I'm like. tapping and then Islam's nice so like. he'll tell you like you need to do it. you need to do it this way and he'll. show me the technique with it when. habib's on top of you he's like breaking. me at every single point and I'm asking. for no brother you just got to keep. going and I was like all right cool uh. so the next time he does it he just on. top of me again he's like mounting me.

then I'm turning giving him my back and. then he's like just laughing as he's. talking to the guys outside of the cage. as he's on top of me and I'm feeling. like disrespected but it's like this is. the but like at least like Islam he'll. be like brother do this way do this this. the way you get out of it he giv me some. tips yeah so by the third week he wasn't. catching me with anymore but his squeeze. is a different type of squeeze they have. a very very disciplined Camp right like. you you have to have your haircut a. certain way like you can't be [ __ ]. around showing up with blue mohawk or.

nothing crazy like it's very disciplined. right yeah I think that's one of the the. reasons why they're all successful I. feel like when khabib walks into the. room it's it's like an army we all get. up we all stand in line he'll stand in. line he'll point to who's sparring hard. in the cage because it's a different. type of sparring too where normally for. us we have a sparring day in Chicago or. most teams I've trained at we have a. sparring day like Monday or Wednesday. where it's for them they're doing. everything every day it's small glove. sparring every day then right after that. you're taking off the gloves and you're.

grappling every day then right after. that you're going in the cage and you're. wrestling on the cage every single day. small gloves sparing every day but it's. it's light so it's the where it's you. don't want to knock you're not trying to. knock each other out but then if he. points to you that you're going to your. hard sparring hard sparring then you're. going in the cage with big gloves on and. those guys are going we going hard and. he's cornering and then Javier Mendes is. in there cornering so it's you're. getting a real fight feel for me I was. down there with him for five weeks so. khabib would Corner his guy and and my.

coach leis Taylor was down there with me. with uh in Dubai and he would Corner me. so it's like it's a real fight feel the. guys outside of the cage will sit there. peek in so you get those little nerves. that you would get in a fight and I'm. sparring with somebody his cousin Abu. Becker who's uh also in the UFC. welterweight you're Spa with somebody. really not used to so you also still. have that that tension that you feel. like I don't know what this guy's going. to do he's not one of my normal training. Partners where I know well he's got a. good left kick or he got a good cross I. know what he's going to bring to the. table it's like no it's a real fight.

feel every single time because I don't. know what he's going to bring to the. table he doesn't know what I'm going to. bring to the table and we have two. corners cornering each other in there so. when it's your hard sparring you're in. the cage when it's not hard sparing. you're outside of the cage you're doing. a little bit of technique then it's. light sparring going so was this uh Camp. going there and training there for five. weeks is that just a big change in the. way you look at things and like an eye. opening experience yeah because you know. I'm a guy that I like to cross train a.

lot I I'll go to a bunch of different. gyms I've been to Sanford MMA I've been. to fores uh I've been to Canada before. to train with frost Hobby and I want to. get bring that knowledge back to my team. and back to my coaches like yo these. teams are successful this is what. they're doing this what we got to start. doing too because we're a small gym in. Chicago and you know we have we had a. world champion Juliana Peno with us but. still you have to keep evolving you have. to keep trying to do what the best teams. are doing and seeing how their team is. how disciplined they are it's like none. of the guys are going to show up late to.

practice you're not going to show up. late and smile and laugh it's like once. he lines everybody up you better Sprint. there in that line because he's going to. tell you what your duties are for that. day and then when it's grappling every. single one of those guys is an amazing. Grappler there's guys in there that you. don't even know their name they're still. young 19 years old 18 years old uh. they're just starting but they still had. the same type of grappling as kab they. still feel super strong and I'm like who. the heck is this guy so I'll look up his. name and I like oh 12 and0 15 and 16. and0 and the whole team is full of.

killers but I just want to bring their. mentality I think is a different type of. mentality that a lot of gyms don't have. of being more disciplined and I think. that comes from being Muslim I think a. lot of it comes from that is it just. being religious you're you're bringing a. different type of discipline where you. have to pray five times a day and every. single one of their guys is doing that. none of their guys are drinking none of. their guys are going out and parting if. there's guys that come to practice and. they look a little bit tired kble take. their phone away from them and he won't.

give it to them until until of the next. day tomorrow morning so he'll take their. phone at night 9:00 p.m. and then you. have to go to sleep get a good night. sleep and then next practice he'll give. you a phone back because you're probably. on your phone all night playing games or. something stupid and like he pays. attention to those things and the fact. that he wants you to win that bad. because he doesn't need to be there he. doesn't need to give you the knowledge. he doesn't need to care that much about. you if you don't care about yourself but. it just shows you like how much of a a a. great person he is too and it just makes. you want to work that much harder for. him well just being around someone who.

is if he's not the goat I mean is there. a goat I don't know it might be Mighty. Mouse it might be John Jones it could be. khabib it's it's in the there's a. conversation to be had for many fighters. when they're in their their Prime like. but khabib's the first one to really. retire completely undefeated where you. you can make the argument that even the. rounds he lost if he lost like one round. against Conor and maybe one round. another point in his career they were. barely barely they were like Co rounds.

where he just like was refreshing. himself and then comes back and. dominates yeah so if you're training. with a guy like that like [ __ ] man yeah. and I think that that's a big thing too. is you know one time we were training in. Vegas and I have a a Moroccan kickboxer. that I trained with and we were down. there training with khabib's team and. he's sparring one of their guys and you. know he's a great kickboxer and their. guys is obviously a great Grappler but. he has striking so the first round he's. taking my guy down beating him on the. ground and then second third round he's.

like let me strike with him a little bit. cuz the ground is kind of like too easy. so he's striking with him my guy's. landing hard kicks hard punches hard. knees and then kabib just like stops him. and like snaps at him like you took him. down you treated him like a baby like. why are you gonna sit there and kickbox. with a kickboxer I don't care if this is. practice I don't care if this is. sparring the goal is to win if you want. to look stupid you want to be dumb then. go against the plan go against the route. that's going to help you win he's like. and that like open your eyes too it's. like he knows the path to Victory all. their guys know the path to Victory it's. it's hard grappling heavy grappling and.

strength on the grounds like why are you. going to be dumb and spar with the. Moroccan Kickboxer for and take that. damage yeah eego yeah eego is a. [ __ ] yeah it really is so many. guys just decid to trade with people for. no reason and they W up getting lit up. when they really should be taking the. guy down yeah I feel like that's what a. lot of these newer guys coming up um I. was training with the Ohio State. wrestler he was in Vegas visiting and he. was like going to transition into MMA. and he was telling me like yeah you know. I like this gym.

but you know on wrestling I'm killing. the guys but then I don't know nothing. about sparring so on sparring day I'm. telling these guys you know it's I'm. still learning and then he said. everybody's trying to throw heart at me. because I'm killing them in wrestling. and I'm like you got to find a gym where. the guys don't have egos where they're. going to try to help you build yourself. because if you're sparring hard and you. don't really know how to take a punch or. anything like you're only going to hurt. yourself right and you're going to get. your ticket punch too many times and. then by the time you get into fights I. mean there's quite a few guys that I. know that by the time they have their. first or second Pro fight they've. already had six seven concussions in the.

gym you know and like man like you. already had a deficit yeah I look at. when I go to gyms and I see got like. they're laughing about it like oh I gave. I knocked Chris out yesterday man and. I'm I'm looking at it like like why is. that what you guys do and it's it. changes my mentality because when I'm. first coming up I used to like we Spar. like 15 minute rounds just non-stop. boxing and I'm now when I think back to. it I'm like it was so stupid because I. know how to take a punch why not going. to take a punch at practice when I'm not.

getting paid for it like build the. skills and if you find the right. training partners and I feel like I have. like the perfect training Partners where. we Spar super light and we're still. getting that same movement that same. fluidity with the Striking with the. speed with everything but we're not. putting the extra ump on it and if you. can't if you don't have any guys like. that in your gym I think a lot of these. guys are going to have shorter careers. or they're going to get broken a lot. earlier than they should have it it. makes a big difference with timing too. like you you really develop timing when. you can get a guy who's willing to spar.

light with you because then you're not. thinking about the consequences of. missing or getting countered and you. could really just develop that ingrain. timing and occasionally hard sparring. yeah but hard sparring all the time I. mean the early days of the UFC guys. would just fight they would go into the. ring and in in their their whatever. their gym was and they would beat the. [ __ ] [ __ ] out of each other and. somewhere along the line people realize. like hey this is you can only sustain. this for so long you're not going to. have a long career doing this and you're.

not going to reach the best of your. potential like when you look at all the. variables that take place in a person. reaching their full potential I think. one of the things you're doing that's. really good is going to different places. I think that has a big factor that that. make that's a big factor and being. exposed yourself to the guys like fasah. Hab or khabib or all these other. different Minds that can give you a. different approach and you could take a. little bit here and a little bit there. but also it's like being smart in your. training and knowing when when to push.

and when not when you're being a [ __ ]. and when you're actually being a. meathead CU you're just going too hard. and you're [ __ ] your body up yeah and. a lot of guys have to learn that the. hard way where it takes them like oh had. to you know when you're coming up you're. fighting for pennies you're not you're. not fighting for anything I used to. fight for $150 and I'll tell my family. no I'm making like 15,000 and yeah like. I would sit there and lie to them but. it's CU you you have that dream you have. that foot and I had the end goal where I. knew I I was going to make it or I felt.

like I could have made it so when I I. had you got to have I think leaders in. the gym room that are GNA teach you the. right things because if you have those. guys and those bigger gems I feel like. there's so many UFC fighters in there 20. 30 40 guys yeah it's great training. Partners great things but if it's a guy. like trying to come up on the come up or. anything like that they're going to use. you as a body for them and they're going. to beat you up and who you going to talk. to you're going to talk to the coach but. the coach like well this guy pays me. more so I'm going to stick with him so.

you just go in there give him some. rounds keep it quiet like nobody nobody. really cares what you have to say so I. think smaller gyms is are better for. that and for me I had uh my coach leis. Taylor he was a fighter and when I when. he when I came in I was 23 years old. when I first started fighting and he was. already a veteran in the game he was in. it so like he I was following his. footsteps and he was teaching me all the. small things don't go to that boxing gym. what are you gonna go to that boxing gym. for they're boxers hate MMA fighters. they're going to just try to knock you. out and you know I would sit there go on.

my own a little bit like you know let me. just see how it is cuz ego then you go. over there and they're just trying to. knock you out and it's like what did I. gain from that it's just it's a hard. sparring but it was like I didn't really. gain any skill level I gained toughness. but it's not really going to help me. when I need better footwork I need. better defense I need better that I was. still on the come up learning so just. getting beat up is not going to help me. yeah the small gym versus a large gym. that's the big debate because some. people think a place like American top. team they have dormitories you got all. these guys coming in from Russia and and.

Morocco and all these all these places. all parts of the world they're coming to. American top team and you know you might. get some sparring with some [ __ ]. Killers but how many coaches are really. paying attention to you when you're just. a guy who just started out there is this. a good place to develop are you running. the risk of being injured because you're. just going to war every day versus a. small gym where you get individualized. attention and people are really paying. attention to you but then it's like. which small gym like every small gym is.

different some small gyms are really. good some small gyms the guys are on. point they have a deep well of knowledge. and they can really coach you some small. gyms the guy's kind of out of his league. and you know he's bringing guys to the. UFC and giving them shitty I mean you've. you've see guys in the corner give [ __ ]. advice and you hear this guy like he's. not giving any technical advice at all. this dude is like he's doing things he's. making mistakes and he's not getting any. coaching he's getting like go out there. and [ __ ] win go out there and kick. his ass like what he doesn't don't you. think already knows that he knows that.

already so that's a bad small gym you. know it's really finding the right and. finding the right place is so crucial. it's so crucial and finding the right. training Partners so crucial yeah I. think the key honestly is training. Partners you have to have the right guys. that really care for you cuz I've been. at gyms where guys really don't care if. you win or lose but if you have that. family feel where they're going to be in. the gym for you no matter what and. they're going to push for you and. they're going to watch your opponent and. give you that opponent's look like in. bigger gyms if I'm a UFC fighter you're. a UFC see fighting your tell I'm. fighting Wonder Boy and in my smaller.

gym I had every single one of my five. guys that I've trained with all of them. Tred to give me that Wonder Boy look. they're all paying attention to what he. does hey I think he does this extra in a. bigger Jam they're like I'm not a karate. guy I'm gonna give you what I got like. you want this or not uh I gotta get paid. too unless you're gonna pay me for it. but that's what I love about the smaller. Gams is because I fought Damian Maya I. didn't have one black bout in my uh gym. I didn't have one black bout that was. helping me push or grapple so I had the. my mindset of I have great wrestlers.

that I'm training with every single one. of my guys is a great wresters so all. right well let's just not hit the ground. let's just push push my wrestling so. hard that he's going to Tire himself out. trying to take me down so I don't have. to overthink it the situation when I. fought Wonder Boy I was I've been in. Camp with Anthony Pettis when he fought. Wonderboy I've been in Camp with Woodley. when he fought Wonderboy and Woodley. brought in stage North cut Anthony. Pettis uh was using Mike bigy roads and. they have that karate style but for me I. was and then I asked Anthony like. so you think I should bring somebody in.

he's like honestly just watch this tape. it was uh I forgot who it was it was a. kickboxer that fought out Raymond. Daniels and he like lit him up and he's. like watch thisin uh yeah and he was. like watch watch this and he like lit. him up and he's like just follow that. routine because or it was valini it. might have been valini yeah yeah I think. it was valini yeah yeah CU he he showed. me the tape and I was just watching I. was just rewatch it just the pressure he. gave and everything like that and I just. wanted to mimic that cuz he's like yeah. I had a cowy Style guy but Wonder Boy is. different man his his kicks are a lot.

snappier than you think his spinning. kick is a lot snappier than you think. his angles are a lot different so he. said don't try to overthink miming him. just stick with what you got and was he. the puzzling guy that you fought yeah I. think so I like I never even wanted that. fight I was I was telling I was telling. my manager I was like bro give me Chaya. I was like I was like because also just. that Wonder Boy is a guy you can't hate. like I always love watching Wonder Boy. fight he's the nicest guy in the world. guy in the world yeah and you got to.

find a reason to hit him and dislike him. um and just like his highlight real and. I'm looking at it like I said I was in. two camps watching these guys and. they're telling me like he nothing like. these other guys his like kicks or. snappier his it hurts so much and you're. seeing him I'm like man I do not want to. be on this highlight reel I do not want. to get hit with a spinning heel kick and. he was coming off of a loss and I feel. like guys coming off of one loss is. their mentality is different they that. they're that much hungrier yeah where. they want to get it right back I was so. impressed with him when Kevin Holland. fight that Kevin Holland fight was.

amazing yeah but mentality like I said. Kevin Holland I'm like bro you took him. to the ground right why you going to. stand up for E they made an agreement. apparently to not go to the ground like. Kevin you're a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu. and you're you're like in the top 10 of. the division like what are you doing man. like you you really could be a contender. a top Contender literally and beating a. guy like Wonder Boy that name value. right there you see what he wants to. push you you have you you know you have. a good push be behind you with Holland.

so I'm like you beat Wonderboy you. probably right there in the next line. for the title shot actually I don't know. if he's top 10 at welterweight like but. the fight was supposedly scheduled at. that was a welterweight fight right yeah. that was a welterweight but Wonder Boy. was ranked top 10 so he would probably. took his number if he beat him yeah that. fight was crazy because I just I just. couldn't imagine why he wouldn't want to. vary his approach when you're fighting. with a 57 and0. boxer bro I had so many people messaging.

me after my fight with him like bro. you're all you did was hump him all you. did was like bro he's 57 and old. kickboxer yeah and then after yeah. they're like look uh he's old he's this. he's this and I'm like oh look he he. beat uh Holland and striking so I guess. he still got some fight left in him huh. like he's not done he's not that old and. he doesn't take a lot of damage himself. he's been knocked out once by Anthony. Pettis but that was it well he got. dropped really bad by Woodley Tyron hurt.

him bad and you know it was that was. that's the way you have to fight him if. you're a guy like Tyron like everybody's. like that fight was boring like yeah. that's smart yeah you have to fight him. smart you can't just charge at that dude. you're crazy he's so good at countering. and he moves like a snake he moves back. and forth like a snake the way pops back. and then pops back in when he's beating. guys like luk and he's beating Jeff Neil. and he's like making them look like. amateurs they all wanted to play that. let me oh I'm going to strike with you. I'm going to strike with you doing that. game and you can't beat him at that game.

there that karate stance is so different. everything his movement I mean his his. sideways stance and then attacking you. with that front leg everything's. different it's and it's from it's like. so sophisticated like we could hit you. with this you know bring it over the top. and he like when I first came out he. threw one spinning heel kick at me and I. was like all right I'm shooting I'm not. I was like I'm not GNA play this game. I'm like and then when I took him down. they just started giving me building the. confidence building the confidence. building the confidence so like all. right well my wring is up there where. people beforehand were like he uh Johnny.

Hendricks couldn't take him down Johnny. Hendricks is the national champion. Woodley couldn't take him down and I. Johnny Hendrick when he fought Wonder. Boy was on the slide yeah like there was. a big slide with Johnny Hendrick was. Johnny Hendricks versus GSP who was a. [ __ ] there was the Johnny. Hendricks that knocked out John Fitch. and Marvin Camp Martin campman like that. Johnny Hendricks was a bad [ __ ]. he was a beast but by the time Johnny. Hendrick got to like Paulo Costa that.

Johnny Hendricks was done yeah he was. done I don't know what was going on in. his personal life I don't know how hard. he was training I don't know if usada. got to him I don't know what happened. but he was not the same guy yeah he's. one of the main guys where that usada. comes in and you're like do you remember. he just how you fall off that much knock. guys senseless they would go flying that. crack guys like with Fitch he cracked. him and Fitch goes flying everybody goes. flying and then all a sudden the power. goes away way it was wild yeah and then.

you're you're thinking back to the GSP. fight where it's like How could somebody. be that good and like somebody who. almost beat the goat a lot of people. consider the goat and all of a sudden. you fall off that much and it's only. like two years three years later right. real close to beating him like maybe you. could have given it to him like if I. mean that wouldn't been the most. egregious decision yeah yeah Crosby. would have for sure gave it to him who. knows he might have given George every. round who [ __ ] knows yeah man there's. some bad judging right there's so some.

of those fights were like what in the. [ __ ] are you guys watching yeah yeah to. get back to the Patty fight I'm like. we're we're I'm getting tagged in all. the videos with you and her like we're. looking at each other we're both looking. at each other I said to you right before. I go he got it I go Jared got him yeah. and we both agreed and then I looked at. you like what the [ __ ] that didn't make. any sense I thought it was two to one. yeah for sure and I'm rewatching it I'm. like I'll go back and I'll rewatch and. I'm sitting there like I still give it. to Jared and it's like bias involved. obviously there may be but I'm.

like stats like you're looking at the. stats he out struck him 21 to like 16 in. the first round and he took him down and. all the judges gave still the first. round to Patty and I'm like it didn't. make any sense and he caught him clean. with that left hook he was Landing that. left hook on a regular basis all day. very clean yeah that he got [ __ ] and. that's unfortunate you know I don't like. when someone gets by just because. they're famous and they have this big. personality and and everybody loves them. the problem with that is people going to. be rooting against him now in the next.

fight and so now he's going to go in. there against someone and maybe he's. going to go in against someone who's on. another level like one more level up and. he's going to be in trouble yeah and for. a guy like him I just don't think that. he really wants it that bad if you're. going out of camp and you're getting up. to 200 lbs two 210 and you're getting. that big you're not in the training room. for me I'm in practi room all day I. don't care if I have a fight or not a. fight and it's just building skills in. between fights him I'm looking at it I. was watching the fight for Jared uh cuz.

I knew I was going to be in his corner. so I'm watching tape and I'm like he's. going to be the same exact fighter that. left H is going to land all day his. coach very smart was like that left hook. that left hook that left hook and it. landed the whole fight because he didn't. evolve from his second fight his third. fight his first fight because yeah. someone said that too that his fights. are like fat camps yeah yeah that. they're really not like training camps. where you're going over skills as much. as he's just he's got very good skills. but now he's just trying to lose weight. yeah you just got to lose it. he gets so big his big pie face and I I.

mean you can make a show about it and. like play that whole game like it's like. it's a fad for you but like in general. it's not good for your health and if. you're training with that much extra. weight on you that's when little. injuries happen and he's about he's. going to surgery now so I'm wondering if. that played a part into it what's he. going to surgery for I don't know they. said he's not going to be on the March. card because he has surgery the London. card [ __ ] yeah see with the Patty pimpl. is getting surgery on he's a fun dude. though man his [ __ ] personality in. the way he dances when he gets inside. the octagon and everything it's very fun.

but sometimes ankle surgery but. sometimes you can be more famous than. you are good yeah and that's a real. problem when you run up against a Justin. gatei or some [ __ ] assassin yeah know. and that's what I feel like he has to. level up from Jared so yeah who leveling. up from Jared I think is probably like. top 15 oh he had a partial tearing of. his ligaments in his. ankle h or something like that it says a. grade two injury to the ankle.

Rehabilitation pmets doctor disagree. with the UFC lightweight continues to. deal with swelling and soreness more. than a month removed from his most. recent F I wonder if he looked in the. stem cells at all well well who knows. either way he's getting surgery yeah. it's a well you know I hope he heals up. but I hope he realizes that I mean he's. openly talked about having an eating. disorder yeah you know and some guys do. get that when they cut a ton of weight. and it's it really [ __ ] with them and. you always have that mentality like when.

you're in Camp and it's about to be like. two or 3 weeks out and you feel so good. cuz you're eating healthy for six to. eight weeks and it like your body feels. good your energy feels good I always. tell myself like after this fight I'm. not eating bad I'm not going to go on. any bad binges or anything but it's like. right after you win you're like I don't. care no more like I'm eating whatever I. want and yeah you're like I'll make up. for it but it only has to be for me it's. I only give myself a week if you go one. week yeah you go to two to three to four. weeks and that week must be glorious. though man it's like Heaven I and. especially if you're winning and for me.

I was like I was flying back from Dubai. uh from Abu Dhabi and I was like I'm. upgrading the uh business class I'm G to. do business class I got me like a big. bag of M&M's I'm just sitting there. front row my brother was able to sneak. up there with me uh in business class. because there's like empty seats and. they like they never asked them so he. sat up there the whole time with me so. me him and my coach are just sitting up. there eating M&M yeah oh let me get some. french toast let me get this so it was. like it was like the best ride ever. what's your binge food the one binge. food that you like to go to after fight. I love nachos yeah I'm a nacho guy I'm.

chips and cheese like when I'm in Vegas. one time I was on the same me and. Anthony Pettis we were uh training. together and we both won that on a card. together and he comes up to me he's like. hey uh we're going to go to the The Club. at uh I I don't know what even name of. the club was and he was like tell me. like all right we're going to get a. table over there and I was like yeah I'm. G to go get a Nacho Daddy I'm G to go. get some nachos and he was like looked. at me like I was such a loser and my. coach my coach is like bro you're such a. lame and I was like ca I don't drink or. party or anything but my family's always. at all the fights of me so my best time.

is celebrating with them going to eat. with them so he's looking at me like. you're a lame man and I was like bro. this go eat and he's like all right man. let's go let's go together so well. you're probably adding time to your. career by not drinking you're probably. adding time to your career yeah you know. it's it's look drinking is fun there's a. reason why people like to do it there's. a reason why bars are everywhere it's. fun but the reality is it's [ __ ]. terrible for you and if you're a. professional athlete and you're in this. world of professional athleticism that.

has very little room for error which is. what you're in I mean you're in the the. the hardest [ __ ] sport I think in the. world and if you can maximize your. recovery and maximize your health and. maximize Your vitality by not drinking. alcohol I would you know I would tell. people to do it maybe a glass of wine. here and there a little glass of whiskey. no big deal but guys who get drunk guys. who like really like to party and man. you are [ __ ] chipping away at your.

health yeah there's no if fans or butts. about it yeah I mean I know a lot of. guys that do it and then they'll come. into the practice room on Monday or hung. over or something you're not really. getting as much out of the session and. you get hurt yeah and I've seen it. happen to a lot of guys and I tell them. like how bad you want it how serious you. want it these younger fighters yeah and. I tell them like it's not an easy Road. everybody always ask me for advice how. how do you get to the UFC and I'm like. there's no there's no like easy road to. the UFC there's some people that well. Skyrocket right in there like you said. they're famous they got a following.

behind them and they're gonna blow up. right away or there's guys that have to. inch their way in guys like you that. grind yeah you've gr you've worked your. way through Contender after Contender. after Contender you've been grinding. dude yeah I appreciate that though man. that's a mentality that I really. appreciate because it's hard to do and. no one has to tell you that that's a. when you're not making these Monumental. leaps in terms of like public. Consciousness and being C celebrated. you're steady up that [ __ ] ladder.

that's what you're doing and that to me. is some of the most impressive [ __ ] like. that Shawn Brady fight that was a big. fight man yeah that dude's a killer he's. a [ __ ] killer and you put it on him. man you put it on him and you pressured. the [ __ ] out of him that was a that was. a big fight it was a big fight yeah that. was one of those fights where obviously. I wanted to fight upward I thought that. I I fought luk who was on a seven fight. winning streak and he was number five in. the world and I beat him and then I beat. Wonderboy before that who was number. five and then you're going to offer me. number eight and I was sitting there.

like this doesn't make any sense like CH. Hamza still out there Gilbert Burns is. still out there give me those guys and. they just weren't pushing and they were. like well we'll give you him we'll give. you Brady and I was like honestly I. don't care do you think they weren't I. mean um Gilbert who's Gilbert fighting. this weekend he's fighting Magny that's. right that's a good fight but it's a. good showcase for Gilbert in in in. Brazil Brazil you know and not that. mag's an easy fight he's a very good. fighter but it's like neither one of. those. like beating Magny is not going to move.

into a title shot yeah you know cuz. Magny hasn't hasn't really won enough. fights as of late to Warrant that but. beating you would yeah you know like if. you beat him that moves you closer like. it's like that's a consequential fight. yeah and sometimes they do consequential. fights and sometimes they do fights. where they like give a guy a good. opponent but give it to him in their. Hometown and you know they have it set. up so it's nice they offer you a fight. that makes sense financially and it. looks good just to build you up in that.

area but but for you a Gilbert fight or. more more importantly a hamz fight. hamzat you versus hamzat would be. gigantic yeah and that's I didn't get. why they weren't doing that one I was. sitting there like I'm asking for it. there's a million guys he says oh this. these guys are all turning me down I'm. like I'm not asking for extra money I'm. not telling me I need to have this this. and this I'm I'm like give me that fight. and I'm showing people I'm texting my. managers like they don't want to do it. and I was like hamzat doesn't want to do. it the UFC didn't want to do it and they. were like well he's going to do Nate.

Diaz and I was like like why are you. going to do Nate Diaz instead of me it. doesn't make obviously the build his. name whatever yeah but I was like this. has to be a joke and then I was like. well give me Gilbert and they were like. well Gilbert's gonna fight MV all and. then I was they're like there's nobody. else for you but Shan Brady so then. you're like all right well as long as. it's in Abu Dhabi I always just wanted. to fight an Abu Dhabi because the first. time I fought there was the crowd there. was amazing the people there were. amazing so I was like just give me him. if you guys think that he could beat me. if you guys want to push him he's 15.

and0 and everybody's hyping him up to be. the strongest man in the world and if he. touches you you fall I was like he let's. do it and I felt like after beating him. and just the way I beat him in that. crowd I thought for sure I'm going to. get a Hamza fight after that but they. still didn't do it well hamza's not. scheduled to fight anybody is he no yeah. but now they're saying he could be going. up to. middleweight yeah well the thing about. the middleweight thing is like yeah he. could go up to middleweight and he would. be a a Top Flight middleweight but he.

has fought at welterweight could he make. the weight though like that was a big. problem after that fight with Kevin. Holland like you. know what why are you weighing so much. like why did you weigh eight lounds over. and he said that they stopped him he. could have made the weight and it's like. you never know like maybe they did stop. him maybe they maybe it was the. commission they looked at them and you. know those commission guys they don't. cut weight they don't know you look like. [ __ ] yeah you're always going to look. like that you look like death you look.

like death nobody's ever going to be in. there smiling cutting weight nobody's. going like oh he's great is that 8 PBS. to go yeah let him go yeah yeah eight. pounds is a lot of [ __ ] weight man. but yeah that's a lot a lot for me I. think it's just the mentality for that. fight he's like you're fighting Nate. it's not like you have to do the extra. running the extra jogging while you're. in Camp it's not like somebody that's. making me want to work harder when I F A. Wonder Boy I'm working twice as hard I'm. doing five practices three practices a. day doing whatever I can do because I'm. so afraid of what he can do to me Nate.

Diaz you're like pretty much pretty sure. you're probably going to beat him pretty. easily in the first round if you're. Hamza so I I just think that his. motivation Factor wasn't there that. might be it maybe he didn't work hard. enough or you know maybe he big it also. could be he's getting close to the top. of the food chain and there's a lot of. pressure involved in that and sometimes. when people have a lot of pressure they. self-sabotage there's that possibility. yeah you know you really don't know it's. it's so hard to tell that's why. experience is so important and that's.

why your resume is very impressive. because you fought so many top guys. you've been around for so long like. you're a proven entity yeah and with a. guy like Hamza you go okay well he. looked real good up until that Gilbert. Burns fight and the Gilbert Burns fight. was a [ __ ] war that was a war but man. showed he he could take it man showed he. can bounce back from diversity gets. dropped and still drives forward and. gets a takedown I mean he showed he's a. dog he shows he's a [ __ ] mad dog but.

how many times can you do that how many. different Fighters how many who's going. to figure you out who's going to find. your chin who's going to catch you who's. going to get your number who's who's. going to get it we need to know and then. maybe he's thinking that after the. Gilbert par fight you have a fight like. that where you're steamrolling everybody. you only get hit four times in your. first four fights he was just ragd. dolling people man runs through Lee. jingon [ __ ] up Gerald merar [ __ ] up. everybody right and then all of a sudden. he's getting tagged and Gilbert's a. Savage Gilbert is a bad [ __ ] and.

that dude was just throwing bombs at him. and clipped him and hurt him and rocked. him and maybe he's thinking like you. know who knows man you you never know so. that's why being a proven entity is so. important when you get a guy like. yourself that's just had so many tough. fights against top contenders like then. you could see what a guy's made of yeah. you know that's why betting lines are. hard yeah but also with uh Hamza you're. looking at that Kevin Highland fight. where he just came out so hard I'm like.

oh my God I wish we would have seen the. second round he was going for dar's all. the scrambling I'm like nobody can keep. up that pace I don't care who you are. and what how do you recover in the. second yeah and you're not going to do. that for five rounds if you do that for. a five round fight man and you don't get. him in the first you're [ __ ] yeah. you're really [ __ ] that that extra two. rounds I tell people it's it's a. difference and but meanwhile he was. right see the thing is like we can. second guess him all day but hamzat was. right he knew he could do that he knew. he could do that and he was right he he.

ragged all the [ __ ] out of Kevin Holland. I was impressed I mean I was really. impressed when you see what he's capable. of when he puts the [ __ ] pedal to the. gas and really just Stomps it to the. floor like that [ __ ] is scary. yeah he's very good but that's those. type of Fighters are the ones that like. I want to figure out those are the ones. that where everybody's telling me I'm. going to get walk through all right let. me figure him out Kobe covin is another. one where Dana WWA if Usman wasn't here. Kobe would be the champion and I'm like. I don't think so like I I think Kobe.

sucks I don't think that he's at as good. as everybody thinks he is you think he. sucks I think that compared to me I. think I'll be able to walk through him I. think that he's a lesser version of. Shawn Brady I think because if you're. looking at the guys he's fought he's. beaten Woodley coming off with two. losses he beat mazal coming off with two. losses Robbie Lawler coming off with two. Los he hasn't fought one of the guys. that's in the top 10 right now he's. getting so much credit for losing close. fights to Usman like. you get you're a good loser is that what. people are trying to say to him I'm like.

bro why does he get all that credit for. because he him and usan stood to- to Toe. with each other neither one of them went. for a takedown neither one of them tried. to shoot at each other they were just. two wrestlers kickboxing so because he. made it a close kickboxing match with a. wrestler makes him that much of a a. monster a p p guy I just don't think so. really interesting I'd like to see that. fight yeah but does he have a scheduled. fight Kobe he doesn't have anything yet. but he's been missing like got sucker. punched by MZ vdal and apparently he. really got hurt from that yeah I mean I.

think it's hurt for court you think so. yeah cuz I'm like I don't know I know. people who know him he said he actually. got hurt yeah he was [ __ ] up he was. [ __ ] up for a while after that fight. apparently or after that punch call. fight I don't know I'd be talking out of. my ass but my friend who knows him well. said dude he got really [ __ ] up from. that punch CU he didn't see it coming. yeah and Jorge just ran up to him and. sucker punched him in the face but when. you're at that when you're that person. like you have to have security with it.

I'm like all the trash talk you say all. the dumb stuff all the people that want. to kill you I'm sure American top team. all them Brazilians you talk trash about. like you don't think that somebody sees. you on the street is going to hurt you. and that's what I feel like a lot of. these guys need to start realizing is. like you could say whatever you want to. build a fight but when you're talking. about a guy's family his kids like he. deserved that I know that it was a. sucker punch it was dirty on masal in. like be a street fighter go street fight. him in the streets hit him with. something. uh but don't hit him and like run off.

but I thought he deserved. it like I'm never going to kick a man. when he's down but like I always kick. Kobe coov when he's done I don't care. about Kobe cson like that's hilarious. I've had hate for uh Sean Strickland and. I've called him out before and I was at. the fight when he fought uh Pereira and. Pereira like knocked him out and I like. got like I got up to go to the bathroom. and all he's like brother stop don't go. anywhere don't see anything to him I was. like bro I'm just going to the bathroom. like I hate him but I wouldn't like. laugh at somebody that they just kned. out I go to you just got knocked out LOL. or anything like because I know what it.

is to get knocked out in the cage I know. what it is to want it that bad and be. that close to uh achieving something. then you lose fall flat in your face so. I would never talk trash about but if it. was Kobe I'll probably laugh and point. and everything at him like I don't care. about KOB so he's your number one dude. that you hate yeah Kobe yeah like well. that's a real possibility for you if he. comes back like people just don't know I. ask when is he fighting oh he's not. fighting for a year he's going to be. he's not going to be fighting for a. while and then I'm at like they say why. I'm assuming because he's claiming brain.

damage with the the court case and I. know like some lawyers uh like injury. lawyers and he was like yeah when. somebody comes in claiming brain damage. like all I hear is cha-ching like I know. that I'm gonna get paid for it because. you could claim like future injuries or. anything like that like stuff that's. going to happen in the future so and the. the court can't do anything like well. we'll wait 10 years before you let you. get paid or anything and if you're suing. mazal who's worth millions of dollars. and you're claiming brain damage and. they see you take a fight they're. probably going to be like how are you. going to take a fight if you have brain.

damage that's a good point and that's. really interesting too is like has there. ever been a fighter that sued another. Fighter for a sucker punch has that ever. happened no I don't think so I don't. think so either now that I'm thinking. about it I don't think in the UFC it's. ever happened before and I feel like. they should be like Guy Code like right. I'm not going to call the cops or. anything like that like I'm not going to. sue you off of that and for especially. for them to cuz they had a relationship. before right they were roommates yeah. you were roommates for that long and. you're going to sit there and go to and. two them like that that's to me that's.

soft like I'm not going to if it's if. it's if I'm Kobe I'm going to get. revenge if I'm Kobe I'm going to you. already embarrassing the cage Ive will. hire somebody on a treat to jump M with. all like do the safety so but when. you're getting to that level it's like. it's stre guys and I like I'm not a guy. that's gonna go to court or snitch or do. anything like that it's just I just. don't like that mentality well we'll see. we'll see what happens cuz if he gets a. million dollars out of the settlement. you're like well okay you know I mean. million dollar for chip too all right it. might I don't know I mean if he really.

can prove brain damage if he can prove. that something really went wrong I mean. we don't know I mean his career might be. over who [ __ ] knows I don't know I. don't know what happened to him you know. sometimes guys get hit and they're. [ __ ] up you know especially if you. don't see it coming and especially like. we've seen it with guys that get knocked. out and they've never been the same yes. from it yeah and you're like how the. heck did this guy just change so much. off of that and you're like they took. that much damage in a fight you don't. know which fight it's going to be and. that's why I tell guys don't Spar hard.

cuz you don't want to lose those years. lose those that toughness from your chin. because you can't you can't gain muscles. on your chin right and I think Tony. Ferguson was a big one of that like. after that Gatey fight he was never the. same and it's like a prime example of. like bro people get hurt and something. changes in their their body or their. mind or something was beating man that. was a beating that Ki fight W that was a. beating and Tony caught him caught him. with a big upper cut early in the fight. remember oh yeah he had him rocked yeah.

he had he just decided to stand and TR. and gagei instead of loading up he. started Trevor Whitman in the corner. told him like settle down don't [ __ ]. try to take his head off with every shot. pick your shots be Technical and then he. started tuning them up and when he. started tuning them up at the end of it. it was like it was bad and when I. believe it was Herb Dean when Herb Dean. stopped it I was like good stoppage cuz. this is not this is ugly yeah I mean he. was like mov moving away funny I was. like he's he got too many shots some.

guys are just too tough for their own. good that's Tony he's so tough yeah that. [ __ ] so tough but you think back. to those like how you said he almost. dropped him at Ender first and you're. looking back at um Pereira and nna where. he almost dropped him at the beginning. of the first year like how many of those. fights are there where it's like one. more second this guy would have won and. the whole thing would have changed yeah. if Izzy caught him with that punch 2. minutes to go instead of two seconds to. go who [ __ ] knows man he couldn't. stopped him in the first round Crown. yeah that was right there and it changes.

everything in the whole division you. know Izzy almost stopped him in the. second kickboxing fight they had too. yeah or uh yeah the second kickboxing. fight because in the second kickboxing. fight the first one I thought Izzy. should have won a decision it was very. close but I thought Izzy should have won. and the second one Izzy had him rocked. like he had him wobbling and then they. came in and gave him a standing a count. yeah I didn't know that that like and I. I felt like he should have let him drop. first before giv him to standing a count. standing are weird yeah they're so weird. it's like you're in trouble I'm going to. give you a break versus you're in.

trouble and then the guy stops you like. why I don't agree with standing a. accounts I don't understand it but it's. it's like I think the super I think MMA. rules are are superior in that like. there's no like you get dropped and you. come back up because of the fact that. there's ground fighting and ground and. pound when someone gets hurt and someone. could put that person away that's the. end of the fight there's a thing that. happens in boxing when a guy gets. dropped where you're like one two and.

you get up and then no one's hitting you. and they brush your gloves off and they. go come to me and there's all this time. and you have time to sort of get your. equilibrium back and move around that's. probably worse for you yeah it's. probably worse for you unless you're. Tyson Fury and you get dropped by Wilder. and you get up you're like how the heck. did he come up so hard came up and won. the rap remainder of the round yeah but. you're looking at that too and you ever. seen those videos of like the guy the. ref counting and somebody's like dude it. was like 20 seconds to ref's Counting. because he go one two and it's like what.

if it's like a bad ref who's like. counting a lot faster it changes. everything too that happened with Mike. Tyson and Buster Douglas when Tyson. dropped Douglas that was more than a 10. count oh really yeah yeah you can go. back there's people have taken that. video and superimposed it with a camera. that shows you an actual count of 10 oh. wow yeah it goes to like 11 or 12 before. Buster Douglas actually gets up yeah. that's crazy let's just when you got. someone going like this one. two like you should have a [ __ ] clock.

like if this is 10 seconds there should. be a giant digital clock and the moment. someone gets dropped that clock goes and. has nothing to do with the referee the. referee should be reading that [ __ ] off. the clock that's it yeah I don't know. why they don't do that like just point. to it he's down down look at the clock. here you got seven eight like it's on. the clock because guys can do a slow. count and they can do a quick count too. six seven8 n 10 you're like hey hey hey. that's not 10 that was seven that was 7.

Seconds [ __ ] and when you're looking at. it too like you said when it comes to. famous guys or like if Patty pimpley was. boxing and the ref liked him more am I. going to count faster for you like we're. all humans right like we all like. somebody more than another person. regardless of what you say did you see. the video of Dana and uh I think it was. Hunter Campbell I'm Not Who sure it was. celebrating when Patty got the win oh. yeah they like [ __ ] yeah I'm like oh no. no you can't do that for me I I hate.

like losing in general and then it hurts. me more when I'm like Jared's like my. best friend he's like my boy so seeing. him lose and CU I know how hard he works. he's one of those guys where I know that. he puts the real time and he puts the. real work in his like life story is so. crazy isra so it was like that was his. moment that was his moment to shine you. know the whole crowd's booing before the. fight and they're all like that could. have turnas yeah and I'm like that could. have changed everything so for it to be. like snatched out of his hand because. three stupid judges like pisses you off. so much I'm like yeah most people did.

not agree with that decision there's you. there's controversial decisions like I. went back and rewatched Yan bovich U an. KV that's a very interesting decision. cuz like the first round you go who won. that fight who won that round because. the first round anive was pushing the. pace but Yan bovich landed some very. good leg kicks you know and that. [ __ ] goes Shin to Shin with. people I'm looking at him like I I want. to see how he's walking afterward. because Yan walk fine yeah I'm like what.

does he have like he made out of metal. dude Yan bov is made out of metal but it. makes sense if you think about the power. that dude carries like he must have some. dense ass bones yeah and I'm like you. never like anive I've seen him training. before and this dude's a monster. everywhere and you're like wait so his. weakness is his lower Shin all right so. we we have the weakness now other guys. are looking at it like I'm not going to. do that though I'm not going to come out. there low kick at his lower Shin because. I just think bovic has like ultimate.

confidence in his ability to if guys. want to get in a firefight with him he. has ultimate confidence he could blast. him out yeah you know and I think he. just has ultimate confidence in his. durability too yeah he's tough he's kind. of like a Glover where both of them just. have that like crazy just like old Power. and old toughness and they just have the. discipline of just keeping their hands. up a lot of there's not that new fancy. footwork or moving back or Matrix style. stuff like they just keep it simple keep. your hands up go shuck it off yeah Glo. Glover Man 42 years old fighting for the.

title. again again amazing what do you think of. that fight this weekend I'm excited for. it I Glover is one of those guys where I. felt like I felt bad for him because. that you know I thought it was gonna be. one of his last fights for them to take. the title fight away from him like ah. and then like every time I see him in. the pi he's like the nicest guy and I. saw him there that weekend for the. ankali of uh fight I was like ah man. that sucks man it should be you in there. and he's like it's all right man nice. guys like us man we it'll come back to. us later man it takes us the long road.

cuz we're both nice guys that's. interesting yeah he was like the nicest. guy in the world and I is the nicest guy. and I was like yeah you know what you're. right and it just made you feel good. that like I feel bad for you but like. he's like no I'll accept it it's okay. it'll come back to me so the way it just. happened what's interesting is he he. said he would fight on COV but he said. he wanted to fight him in Brazil he said. I have to adjust my game cuz I'm. fighting a different guy Now give me. some more time to to like train for this. guy. especially at 42 years old and. especially coming off of being a.

champion he's supposed to be fighting. Yuri prasa who's this like bizarre Style. yui Just moves around funny he's. throwing crazy shots he's got a very odd. style very specific so to go from that. to anv and anv is like standing tall and. he moves really good and he's he's very. fast and super technical totally. different style like you got to prepare. for different looks yeah but I mean I. understand the UFC's take on it like you. need a a title fight for the. pay-per-view you got to sell it for that.

one that the 42 at 42 like you got to. make your choices count yeah you got to. make it I like what Glover did look he. was right he came back to help him it. worked out perfectly for him and Jamal's. a dog though Jamal's a dog Jamal's a dog. and Jamal's got crazy power man he's got. crazy power yeah he got that here it is. Jamal he has an intelligence like a f. chin intelligence he finds your chin he. like sorts through all the [ __ ] you're. doing he he's like now's my time and.

just drops bombs and he's so common. there he was like even on the way we uh. when I fought Damen ma he was in the car. with me on the way to the fight because. he fought Paul Craig that day and. interesting he's the favorite oh Jamal. is yeah interesting that's interesting I. guess it's just the power Clover's age. it's the power and you know it's the. like when you see him the way he knocked. out Johnny Walker you're like dude kind. of glancing off the forehead good shot. but wasn't even like his best shot and. and Johnny Walker goes stiff that.

Jamal's got crazy power and he like. switched stances right before he knocked. him out with that shot and I'm like oh a. bigger guy that knows how to switch. stances so smooth yeah he's he's very. clever in there and that power is. undeniable man his power is undeniable. davidon figuro he made me eat my words. that [ __ ] got down to flyweight. I was like last time I saw him he was. 300 lb I was like dude you're never. going to be a flyweight again he came in. the Octagon I'm like you're heavier than. me like how are you going to get down to.

125 but he did man he looks go to his. Instagram he uh he he posted a photo. today damn he looks good so Davidson sir. made me eat my words I was like when got. a couple more days Friday we'll see a he. made it I think he made it I I was. saying he's probably gonna go up to. bantamweight but no look at him oh wow. damn son that dude's shredded look at. him look at him you can't get more. shredded than that. that's not possible it is literally like. he's got veins everywhere on his body.

you can't get more shredded than that. dude that's. [ __ ] that's their fourth fight right. that's nuts they some I saw the stat. today it was like uh this is Davidson. Figaro hasn't fought anybody not named. Brandon Moreno in the last four years. like he fought the last four years only. been Brandon Moro that's the only first. time fought the last yeah the last guy. he stopped. yeah. last well he fought Alex Perez yeah and.

that was uh 2020 yeah and then before. that he fought benovitz he stopped. benovitz twice he beat him twice and. then uh Brandon Marino and then the the. remat the last one I thought Marino won. man yeah I was uh shocked at that. decision you know but that I was I was. real happy that Morino got that fight. with Kai car France got the interim. title and now they're fighting for. Undisputed I like that fight I like that. fight a lot those two guys match up. really well this is going to be I mean.

we could watch them fight five or six. times I think he's going to keep. switching back and forth but now Morano. doesn't have his coach with him he. switched I'm wondering how that's going. to play a factor into what is your take. on that whole thing I don't know enough. about what happened do you know enough. about what happened I don't know but. it's doesn't sound good when I watch. that fight when I look at that fight I'm. like this guy said he had an injury and. he just fell down literally just fell. down like it looked like he threw the. fight the the one who was cornering that. and then he came out afterward and said. oh you know I had an injury but it was. like at least act a little bit more if.

you're going to go in there and throw a. fight well if you have an injury and you. go and fight it says UFC's Jeff Molina. suspended for alleged substantial. involvement in ongoing James crous. investigation substantial yeah they he. was on uh I've heard a thing that he was. on uh his Discord and he said that like. Jeff Molina said that like you know I. paid my my mortgage my house my my phone. bill everything with this Discord right. here make sure you guys join it so like. he was pushing it hard so I'm sure you.

know he he was under kuss so his Discord. was they is that something that they. were using for gambling yeah I think. somebody was tell me they you know. you're aware of this right j a big smile. what do you know uh what I heard this is. what I heard there was up to 2,000. people using that Discord for gambling. information and most of it was probably. MMA stuff probably all sorts of sports. are being talked about uh but one fight. in particular the the line change right. before the fight from like I think the. favorite was like maybe- 220 or.

something like that to then like. negative 450 which is a 4 to1 favorite. and more specifically it was like uh of. a KO in the first round and it happened. in like 48 seconds or something and that. fighter had never been ko'ed or. something too is what I was hearing so. people knew that there was an injury and. they were letting people know that there. was an injury so that affected the. gambling line and then they traced that. [ __ ] back to find out well they [ __ ]. everybody cuz now you can't bet on. yourself like if you want if you fought. Ham on you're like [ __ ] I'm putting 100. Grand on myself yeah that's that's cool.

yeah there's a lot of players that do. that you should be able to gamble on. yourself yeah I mean if you're going to. gamble at least but now I don't think. Fighters are able to gamble even on like. football or basketball or anything like. ter DraftKings or something we I been. tweeted out like I can't even get on. draft terrible that's terrible you guys. [ __ ] us freaking Krauss man I when he. he was on AA hawani before and he said. he makes more money gambling than he did. fighting and I think that like triggered. everybody wait a minute let me check. what you do and I met a couple guys in.

Vegas and they were like talking about. the situation and he was telling me like. one guy was like oh yeah you know I make. like $500,000 uh each UFC fight and I'm. like really he's like yeah what he's. like there's fights that are the line. still out there even after the fight's. done so the fight will happen he knows. who won and how they won and then V some. of the casinos will still have the line. up what yeah and he said bet the house. on it and I'm like you're lying he's. like bro I'll show you my bank account. like this what I do wait a minute wait a. minute he's gambling after the fight is.

concluded yeah that's insane that's what. I was like that can't be true he's like. bro there's Casino I'll look for the. casino that has it he said all I do is. gamble that's what I do and I'll wait. for the fight will be finished and. they'll still have the line up and I'll. go into the casino put the but on there. that makes no sense that seems like the. casino should be able to get their money. back like it's already concluded I don't. know if I'm snitching on them or not but. yeah that's crazy when I heard I think. you might be snitching no names were. said right I didn't I hear any names I. heard no names yeah but I I feel like. you should be able to gamble you you.

definitely should be able to gamble on. your fighter you definit should be able. to gamble on yourself as long as you're. not gambling for someone to lose and if. there's a situation like this where it. shows that someone is either taking a. dive or the coach lets everybody know. hey this guy's injured you know bet on. the other dude that kind of [ __ ] you. really should be banned for and you. shouldn't I mean I don't know what. Krauss actually did and what actually is. going to happen to him but that that. makes me upset that's that's terrible. [ __ ] that's terrible for especially you.

ruined it for all these guys that like. if you wanted to fight Hamza and you. wanted to bet 100 Grand on yourself or. you wanted to bet on yourself against. Colby like you should be able to do that. that's a fun storyline I want to talk. about that exactly you have confidence. in yourself that much and and doing. commentary I want to be able to bring it. up like this is how much he believe. believes in himself he put a 100 Grand. on himself yeah but now you can't even. do that yeah check this out this is the. the company that this is called us. Integrity they found it I think this. would be the pfl event it says uh they.

showed fights that were taped a month. ahead of time and aired to them as. though they were alive no and people. gambled on them think so yeah oh my God. that's so stupid this was one of the. ones that he was telling me about too he. said that like CR put on his Discord. that they knew all the results from the. my God wild that is so dumb yeah they. had all the results he said that's so. bush I made like 200,000 but I know guys. that made like 800,000 off of that and. it was like God jail professional.

fighters League Challenge Series and I. was like what it is like so dumb they. didn't play the results but like people. that were in the crowd hey they were. like we were getting text like hey I was. in the crowd I know who W one you want. all these things give me 50 Grand and I. like that's insane I can't believe. that's real yeah that was crazy oh my. God that's so unsophisticated like how. the [ __ ] did they not know that the. fights already took place when they have. a line on it that's crazy that's so. crazy yeah but I mean I think that's.

another issue too with like the the UFC. Pi where you see guys fight week random. guys are walking in and if they see. somebody getting worked on who's. fighting and they see oh he's getting. his ankle worked on so you're like go. back I think something's wrong with his. ankle or something's wrong with yeah I'd. heard about TJ Dill Shaw's shoulder. before that fight oh did you yeah before. he fought Alaine yeah I'd heard about. his shoulder I knew his shoulder was. [ __ ] already because I knew that he. had been getting stem cells he had gone. down to Neil Dr Neil Reen who's a stem. cell uh guy he has a a clinic down in.

Panama and he was going down to Panama. to get shoulder uh stem cells during. Camp yeah this was quite a while ago. though this is before he got popped for. EPO oh before he fought um Henry Henry. cejudo and so he has like some pretty. substantial tears to his shoulders his. shoulders are pretty [ __ ] they're. pretty [ __ ] like he I think his super. spinatus is completely torn off on both. shoulders it's not good yeah and stem.

cells could fix that or not really no I. don't even know if anything can fix it. at this point because it's like when you. if you have something that's torn off. and I'm I'm completely speaking out of. line here I don't know the the actual. full extent of his injuries I'm not a. doctor I haven't even seen his MRIs but. what he was explaining to me is that he. tore it early in his career and then he. just been using bands and all these. things to keep all the other muscles. strong and keep the stable are strong. but eventually that [ __ ] just gives out. and then it just popped out of socket.

during the fight yeah that was yeah and. we I we've seen a couple of shoulder. injuries now it's like crazy how it. happens to one person and it starts. happening Amry Pico had his shoulder. popped out. uh Yuri prusa's shoulder popped out and. his guy tried to put it back in and tore. his [ __ ] oh no way they were trying to. manipulate it and put it back in and it. [ __ ] it up even worse that's crazy. yeah but get a bunch of guys yanking on. your shoulder oh we got it we got this. we got this buddy [ __ ] that's the.

fighter mentality it's like yeah it's. all right rub some dirt in it like I. won't go to the doctor or Hospital. unless unless I'm unconscious or I. really really need it like I'm trying to. avoid that at all costs of just seeing a. doctor I don't care what's going on with. me yeah I'm like I'm afraid of it I. don't if there's any chance you're G to. tell me I can't fight or don't don't. train anymore I'm like no F you I'm it's. all right what's your worst injury. you've ever had so. far for me honestly is uh I've had two. detached renas oh Jesus yeah was one of.

them for the Leon fight no it was I had. one before that fight um it was I think. it was after uh it was from training it. was I was training one day and I'm. sparring and then all of a sudden like I. see like black at the top of my eye and. I'm like rub it whatever so I go back to. sparring light sparring we're moving. grappling then it's like it just becomes. literally like all black but like you. can see it but it's like a film of black. over your eye and I'm like what the. fudge is going on and then I'm like all.

right well let me go to the doctor and. then like the doctor just like gives me. like a look and I'm like like oh yeah we. got to go to surgery immediately and I'm. like what do you mean like what's what's. going on what's wrong blah blah blah and. I'm like he's like yeah you have a. detached right now you could go blind. and I'm like you know you're thinking a. Michael bisbing and what happened to him. and you're like you don't know what to. do so then you know we go to the. I had to go like to surgery right away. cuz he's like the longer you wait the.

you're going to lose vision more and. more so they had to like put a bubble in. your bubble in my eye and then like I. still didn't know what it was so like. I'm assuming like once she takes the. Band-Aids off I'm be able to see so he. takes the you know the next I go in. there get the surgery done and then like. the next Monday I go in there and takes. the Bandaids off and I'm like bro I. still can't see he's like no it's going. to be we have to see what it's going to. be like in what it was like eight weeks. to 12 weeks you're going to have a. bubble in your eye oh and you have to. like hold your head on a tilt like.

this yeah 12 weeks for 12 weeks and so. you have to tilt your head sideways for. 12 weeks yeah like you have to keep the. bubble in its place so it like lines up. the the retina or like seals it back in. and then like I couldn't watch like I. had a uh you know the massage tables. where you have to put your head down and. I had to sit on one of those to watch TV. with a mirror that was downward and it. was like point up there to the TV cuz I. couldn't look up like this like I had to. keep my head down so the pressure's on. there so I'm like I have to watch TV.

like this it to watch TV through a hole. in the massage table dude it was. honestly it was like the most depressing. thing that I've ever gone through in my. life and it was like the hardest thing. wow and it was like one of those things. too where it was like I'm not one of. those guys that like cries W for. anything so like I kept it to myself I. didn't even tell my parents or my family. I would just like go to the house with. sunglasses on and see them and then just. like avoid seeing them type thing like. that so then they didn't even know you. attach right now well now they know now. from here but. [Laughter]. but uh yeah it was like it was rough. because you can't do any working out I'm.

a guy that works out constantly two to. three times a day and so for 12 weeks. you could 12 weeks couldn't do nothing. could you even go walk around the block. no I could go walk but but no elevated. heart not a lot yeah not a lot so wow. and for like the first uh four weeks it. was just like I had to stay in this spe. specific position the whole time wow. yeah and then like you had to sleep with. your head down like I'm a backs sleeper. too so I had to sleep with my head down. on uh massage table too like that like I. had to stay in that position the whole. time and then like 12 weeks period goes.

and like the bubble just like starts. shrinking and shrinking and shrinking so. you're always seeing like a little. bubble in your eye and then finally by. the 12 weeks it was done but then he was. just like yeah like I want to fight. anymore oh boy yeah and you're like no. I'm gonna fight I don't care what you. say type thing and so then I go back to. regular training and I started wearing. like one of those uh face like catcher. face masks to like sparring and training. I'm wearing goggles to train in roll in. and like I just don't know how it's. going to react once I go back to.

sparring and hitting hard again how long. did it take before you felt like. confident confident like the 12we period. was where the bubble was gone and then. probably. like maybe like eight weeks into it. after that where I was getting trying to. get back into shape getting back to. thing and finally trying to go hard. sparring without the goggles on yeah so. it was it was rough do you remember what. you got hit with no and that was the. thing like I don't remember what. specific thing happened to it so it like. didn't make any sense but like you know.

you get poked in eye sometime during. training or anything but like you just. don't think nothing of it so you know. you don't really go get checked but like. I never wondered and uh so then he's. just like it was just constant wearing. tear on it so so did after you got the. surgery done did was there a point in. time where you're like hey I don't know. if my career is gonna be over here that. that point was at during the Leon fight. when he poked it and liter I could have. see nothing and I was like this is what.

the doctor said yeah I was like I was. like I'm blind and I was like and then. you're like you waited this long to get. a main event you waited this moment and. it just got taken away from you and. you're like I'm done fighting and it was. just like well even worse maybe you. can't see now yeah well for in that. moment you're just thinking like dang. right like I cuz fighting is my life for. me and I'm like this what what I want. this like my goal is to be right here to. top To Be A Champion so just like get it.

taken away from me like not seeing it. second nature I'm like man I can't train. I can't fight I can't do this so that. was like the most heartbreaking thing. and like knowing that probably have to. go through it again not knowing what. type of surgery it is the doctor told me. not to do it like you should have. stopped what's wrong with you and you're. like fudge it but how long did it take. out I like how you won't even say [ __ ]. yeah I don't. swear how long did it take before uh. your vision came back after that poke. and fight it was like it was like 40. minutes after that then I realized that.

my eyes was just like they I had to get. like three stitches under the bottom. eyelid and uh that's when I realized. like my eye was just closed it wasn't uh. blind cuz I didn't realize my eye was. like closed I was like bro fuing blind. I'm like done but then they're like the. guy's like trying to open like this and. he's like do you see any light and I'm. like I see light I see light oh and then. uh yeah so then probably when I got back. to the hospital they had to do like. stitches in the bottom uh the bottom. eyelid and he was like don't blink and.

I'm like having a stitch there with my. eyes getting stitched don't blink yeah. and I was like what the fudge and I was. like it was like the worst thing ever so. then thankfully I was just like it. didn't it wasn't the detached right. again I was like I felt blessed you had. two detached right and it had into other. ey as well when did that one happen it. was after that one so really um after. the Leon fight yeah. so uh after that one it was after the.

luk fight I mean uh not detached when uh. what you call it uh My Lens was uh. detached oh Jesus yeah so in the third. round of the luk fight I don't he just. like hit me and I was like I'm in the. corner and I like feel something like. weird in my eye it's like sh like a. shield in front of it and I was like. what the fudge did it like I felt like I. just got like poked and I'm trying to. rub it and it's uh tap the cup man is. like bro ain't nothing in your eyes stop. playing and I was like dude I feel like. something but I'm like I still could see.

a little bit out of there so I'm like. all right well whatever I'm just gonna. keep fighting so I like I just got to. take him down and it was like the the I. only had two rounds left and I thought I. won like the first three rounds so then. I was like all right well whatever. whatever and then afterward I'm like the. doctor's like well it doesn't look like. there's anything detached or uh torn in. there I like oh okay cool so then I wait. till I get back home and they're like uh. your lens is uh it was like loose so. then I had to have surgery on the lens. part of my yeah when they do that are.

you awake no no they put me to sleep. yeah they put me but I like like I said. for the first uh detached run now I. didn't know how long it was going to be. before I see but thankfully with this. one it was just it was like full of. blood afterward but I was able to see so. I was like did you see that new guy from. dagistan that uh got signed by the UFC. in the middleweight division is blind ey. yeah that's that's crazy I was like yeah. I didn't know you could fight I thought. bisbing had a lie all these years about. being blind in one eye but this dude see. if we can find that guy he's a [ __ ].

killer too man n nasty Striker yeah I. met him in uh in Dubai and his uh he. came and took a picture with me and he. was like I'm undefeated fighter and I. was like oh man look at him he's got one. eye sharutin. magedov nasty Striker too but he's got. one eye which is really crazy man. fighting on a Moscow Rush a 28-year-old. forced to undergo bu surgery before. making a return to the cage in. 2021.

yeah that's crazy it's crazy because I. didn't think that that was legal yeah I. thought if you maybe there it's only. legal in certain States maybe he only. has to fight in certain places I don't. know what the what the laws are I. thought like bisbing said he had a lie. he had to memorize the charts yeah I. know you have to get eye test every. single time beforehand uh and they check. it all like that way so yeah I was I was. sitting there reading the bising book. and it's like man am I ever going to. have to do that we figuring out a ways. to lie and everything and just like.

reading his book and listening to his. book it was crazy cuz like the way he. described it and when I had to detach. Reen you're like you're going to like. the retino doctor and it's like nothing. but old people in there yeah and it's. like I I don't belong in here with these. like older people like why why am I. having to get this stuff and all the. nurses in there are like what happened. to you like you shouldn't be in here are. for people with like cataracts and stuff. like that like you don't get later in. life so bis Bing's a [ __ ] [ __ ]. gangster I mean he fought like 11 fights. like that 11 fights with one eye won the. title with one eye yeah wild he's one of.

the guys that like I like try to mimic a. lot cuz he was good everywhere he was. one of those guys and people used to. call him pillow hands and all the other. stuff but he would freaking light guys. up in there his cardio was his weapon. and he'll break guys P he won beat Luke. Rock by knockout yeah with the left hook. yeah I mean and it was a beautiful punch. too the way he slipped it over the. shoulder he uh it's like one of the. toughest guys that's ever fought just. just mental toughness the fortitude to. fight like that with one eye it CH then.

yeah it's there's a different type of. man that's willing to do that and like I. said you got to want it that much more. cuz like you said like after your career. there's a life after your career how bad. do you want to be a champion 34 and you. think about how much time you have left. in this life to have one eye to go. through that all that time because of. fighting and they you know there's. certain things they can do now to fix. eyes but I I sent Bisping an article.

actually that I read about them uh. bringing Vision back to people that have. lost eyes but he said it didn't apply to. him because his nerves already dead oh. wow yeah nerve dang that's crazy that's. crazy so your right eye is the one that. you had the lens detached yeah did that. when that got fixed how long did that. take was it the same process it wasn't. the it wasn't as bad as that one it was. just like it was probably like four week. weeks after that one that I was able to. I was able to see right away but it was. like just full of blood so I just had to.

wait for the blood to clear out of the. eye and um yeah after that it was just. clear like same thing same mindset of. trying to get back into training and. everything and getting over that hump I. was training with goggles on still and. wow you're still thinking about it like. all right am my eyes just Jinx am I like. is there something wrong with that or is. guy trying to tell me something do you. think they could do a better job. designing the gloves for sure I think so. and or like enforcing the rule is better. if you're going to tell guys like hey if.

you put your fingers like this don't do. it but they give you like 25 warnings it. doesn't really make any sense think one. eye poke one point right away right away. take a point away and I don't care how. bad it is even if it's not intentional. it's damaging yeah I mean it's it's. you're you're you're compromising the. other Fighter's ability to fight they. can't see as good they're they're [ __ ]. up because now their eye hurts like so. they're now they have to think about. something which is going to. it's going to occupy their mind there's. so many factors I think you got to be. that guy too that's you can't say that.

you got to tell them the doctor that oh. I'm I'm good to fight or otherwise you. don't look tough and you could be like a. DC when you fought Stipe and he said. dude I couldn't see the whole time yeah. and his eye was like literally full of. butt I like bro that was a terrible poke. eye pokes and nut shots I think eye poke. I think eye pokes even more than nut. shots because with a proper cup with a. really good like a diamond MMA cup or a. steel tie cup you could take take a nut. shot it hurts but it's not going to. really compromise you the way an eye. poke is going to compromise you yeah ey.

pokes change fights change everything. change everything and it I don't care. who you are or how tough you think you. are like if you can't see or your eyes. shut like you're just going to keep. going to that side yeah you're done yeah. you're [ __ ] and it's just it's can. ruin careers and you know they have. gloves that are better that's Trevor. whitmann Has designed a glove uh he's. got that company called Onyx you use his. stuff yeah I've used his boxing gloves. his boxing gloves really good fantastic. stuff but his MMA glove is so Superior. and it keeps you in a curved position it.

keeps your hand curved whereas the UFC. gloves keep your hand stretched out and. you have to close it on purpose to make. a fist with this glove it's naturally. like this the whole time yeah the whole. time so you can still grapple CU you can. open it up and you can clamp down on. stuff but but your natural inclination. see if you can get a video or a photo of. it he his his gloves are the [ __ ] and I. know he was in negoti with the UFC I. forget what happened something went. wrong and I talked to the UFC and I.

talked to him I'm like what is going do. that get his gloves they the best glov. way to make it work yeah I think like. the UFC W I don't know what the story. was but there was some business deal. that they could a bridge could not be. crossed I don't know what it was if I I. wish there's a lot of things that I wish. I was in control if I was in control. that glove right there that's his glove. it's the [ __ ] it's better F he keeps. your fist like that's your you stay like. that the whole time yeah my fist like. I'm not clenching it to hold it like. that it's just naturally like that.

they're the best gloves man they're the. they're the best by far I love them and. they're also better foam it's a superior. foam Trevor Trevor's a genius Trevor. really knows his [ __ ] when it comes to. creating equipment and also he has a you. know a long history of Combat Sports but. those Onyx gloves the boxing gloves his. shin pads are the best his [ __ ]. everything he has is the best is he. making those gloves by the ones by hand. I do not know I do not know I don't know. how he's doing it but cuz with the UFC. ones are weird like sometimes you'll get.

you'll get a pair and fight day and it's. like a lot harder and a lot stiffer than. normal too then some some fights you be. like oh this feel way better that's his. eye poke pulled up oh Jesus Christ. bringing bad back memories come on bro. sorry oh my God that's what it looks. like that was the Leon one yeah dude. that is in there oh my God Leon got his. finger in your eyelid look at that yeah. I had to get stitches in that whole. bottom part of yeah looks like he cut it. with his fingernail yeah well now that.

he's a champ you got to be looking at. that I mean after the Shawn Brady fight. I mean you're in the hunt right that's. what you would assume but you would. assume but you get mad because guys like. him are trying to push the narrative. well I won the first round and the rest. of the fight was going to go like that. and it it's funny because it's like how. much he was getting killed by Usman and. he won in the last 30 seconds so right. you would sit there I'll be like oh let. me get the Leon fight well he was. killing you every single person oh he. was killing you you're like there's a. reason why fights are five rounds or.

three rounds and for a guy like me I'm. like I took that fight on two weeks. notice it was short notice first of all. secondly my head coach Lou Taylor he had. covid that day so they took they took. him out so then I had to get a new coach. in the corner uh shout out to coach safe. su he was he was in there but it was. still the first time trying to mesh our. teams together and it was all just first. Main Event everything so I'm like bro. give me a full Camp I'm a guy that likes. to study Fighters study my opponents I'm. like for the Shan Brady fight we were. studying him so hard all right he's. going to come out his first strike is.

always left inside kick and literally. that's the first thing he did like I'm. looking at how you react to a single leg. how you react to a double leg how how. you get on top khabib sending me videos. like he goes for a rear naked choke with. his only his left hand he doesn't use. his right hand for I mean a a guillotine. so be careful with that like we're. looking at the smallest details with. everything and you can't really do that. for a win week notice fight right no you. can't and you also you're not going to. change your conditioning your. preparation and what you do and what you. don't do you know you don't have enough. time yeah it's a good fight I'd like.

that fight I'd like I'd love to see that. rematch I mean he's talking about uh. mazal and that's what he keeps talking. about but because you know he wants to. get him back for sucker punching him. backstage in London yeah but you had. four years to to try to get that back. yourself like and you you it didn't come. so you weren't pushing it that hard I. understand the money fight and he's. going to sell pay-per-views obviously. but well he's got to get B Usman you. know Usman March what do you think about. that. rematch I mean if Usman fights that.

fifth round cautiously that never. happens you know if he fights that fifth. round and just uh you know circles away. from him and and and doesn't try to. close the distance and doesn't try to. take him down or doesn't doesn't engage. just plays defensively he wins that. fight but you know what Leon did was. perfect I mean it was the perfect high. kick you can't take a thing away from. him the guy's down at least two rounds. three rounds going into the fifth he's.

losing the fight it's for the title he. shows him the left and hits him with a. perfect high kick I mean you can't take. anything away from that that was that. was the most consequential high kick of. all time because it's from behind he's. coming from behind he's fighting for the. title he's fighting a guy who already. beat him before he's fighting Usman who. at the time was the man of mans I mean. he everybody thought he's the greatest. welterweight arguably is the greatest.

welterweight of all time right up there. with George St Pierre yeah and then boom. lands a perfect high kick yeah I mean. people so many times when people say oh. was a lucky kick I like I'm like bro you. can't call anything Lucky in the sport. because you throw it to land it I'm not. throwing any strike not to land it and. it's just yeah you're talking to. [ __ ] yeah a lucky kick so funny but. do you think able to do the you think. he's going to come out this fight just. wrestling him who knows man who knows.

who knows mean Usman has problems with. his knees man like real problems with. his knees and now his hand like we're. seeing with a cast on every time and I'm. like hitting up Ali because we both have. the same manager shout out to Ali ABD. aiz and I'm messaging him like bro. what's his talk with Usman like if he's. not fighting for title it needs to be me. like it can't be ma right and he's like. no it's going to be Usman it's going to. be Usman and I'm like why aren't they. announcing it they announced London like. why AR they not announcing ing the fight. and then they finally announc it but. like I was on him all the time what did. he get done to his hand there's.

something with like the ligaments I. think in his like thumb or something. that they had to like reattach well he. got surgery before the fight yeah and so. he got another surgery after the fight. so did it ret I think it was I'm not. sure if it t in the fight injury I think. it was probably a different injury see. if you can find find that what injury it. was man it's. just your all your body can only take so. much I mean you only have so many years. in this game and with Camaro he's always. had bad knees I mean he's got he can't.

run openly talks about it he does all of. his cardio on like assault bike and does. all sorts of different stuff for cardio. but in terms of like road work he said. he can't even like he he walks backwards. downstairs yeah I've heard about that. too I'm a big swimmer I'm like running. yeah I'm still get my miles in but like. I love just swimming I don't have like. the best but yeah you don't get the same. wear and tear on your body as you would. get with all that extra stuff on there.

that's so that's your your favorite form. of conditioning swimming yeah yeah. swimming is my favorite form and I do. like longer uh bike rides now being with. Paul Felder uh seeing like how he's been. doing Triathlon stuff so like I'll do. like 20 miles 30 mile bike rides yeah. Paul's like a serious triathlete D that. wild it was funny because when he was. when he started when he was fighting. with us that R he was training with us. and like I'll tell the guy I'm going to. swim and he'd like all right let me go. try it and he only used to like he'll. swim a lap and then walk a lap and then.

swim a lap like he would not know how to. swim and now he's like all in like we. went swimming and he's just sitting. there lapping me like oh you want to do. one of my workouts and we're we're in. there and I'm looking at my watch and. it's like a two mile swim we've done so. far and then he's like all right now I. got to go ride the bike for three hours. I'm like bro I'm going to get lunch. three hours yeah yeah after a swim and. I'm like bro he looks so thin it's crazy. crazy he doesn't even look like the same. guy when I see him get interviewed or. interviewing Fighters he looks like a.

bantamweight I told him I'm like bro you. could make 135 you he's like walking. around at 165 when he used to cut weight. he'd be at he'll come into camp like he. would he would come to us when he would. do his camps at Rufus port and he would. sit there and like measure stuff before. practice like let me get six blueberries. and like two almonds he was that guy cuz. he was thick he was small yeah he was. pretty big yeah and I'm like I can't. live like that cuz people would always. tell me like oh you need to go 155 like. the first time I met khabib he looked at. me he's like you you're lightweight and.

I was like no I think I'm a welterweight. and he's like no no brother you you need. to go lightweight and I was like what do. you weigh right now like. 190 that's probably what Islam weighs. yeah he's he's he's big after seeing him. in person and what does Islam walk. around at I feel like minimum 190 so. when he cuts how much water is he. cutting and how much is he just. dehydrating himself like throughout the. the month of Camp I mean honestly like.

the way they do is different how do it. for you know cuz we're over there and. it's uh we're in Dubai and we had like. full buffets everywhere any like after. our morning wake up go downstairs we had. like a buffet then after practice our. first practice our lunch was like a. buffet in like a room all the guys would. go in there we all eat together and it's. like you're getting like oh this tray is. full of lobsters this trade is full of. steak this trade is full of Kebab this. trade is full of rice this TR is and I'm. like I'm there and it's like 5 weeks.

before the fight so I'm like trying to. like D Lo calorie count and everything. like that and I'm like putting in a. small plate and they're like brother. you're you're cutting weight already and. I was like no I'm just dieting I'm not. really cutting yet but they're like. still eating normally and like they. don't really start the the hard cutting. it's probably like two weeks out where. or like fight week where they're they're. pushing it they're like working it off. they're like they have a son Sudan on. Monday and they're on a tread mode that. way really yeah so do what do you think.

the right way to do it is do you think. their way to do it is the right way or. do you think you can only do it that way. so many times for for me I used to do it. kind of that way like before it was just. me and my coach and like I said we had a. small gym so like we'll go places and. it'll be like fight week and I'm like. doing bear calls with a Sona suan on the. treadmill and he's like making me do. like boot camp classes with a Sona Su on. so like I'm dying I'm draining myself. and then you know you get to you start. learning these nutritionists and they're.

like there's a science to way cut out. you know water load start water loading. because I was like just staring myself I. had like fight week I had like one piece. of spinach and like chicken breast. thinking I'm cutting weight the right. way but now with these new nutritionists. and they're like doing the whole water. load changes everything and like I don't. start I don't really even started trying. to cut weight until the day before so. I'm trying to sweat it all out so I'm. doing two gallons from Monday till uh. Thursday and then Thursday I cut out all. the water and then I just go into sauna. literally 30 minutes and I'm usually.

done so it's like really yeah for me. it's it comes off super quick so the. week of like if you got to get down to. 170 week of what are you weighing when. you wake up 184 oh that's not too bad. yeah and so then you're just drinking. [ __ ] tons of water yeah I'm drinking so. much water cutting out the salt and. eating more protein stuff and you know. they have these like these little like. fat uh peanut butter balls and stuff. like that that I'm eating munching on. but this fight Camp it was like my first. time doing the bath like I never did the. bath before so like I'm usually a guy.

like I'll go into SAA I like to stretch. out in there and then 30 minutes in of a. good stretch I'm like usually on weight. so this time he's like well we'll just. we went in the sauna bag for like 20. minutes and then we went under towels. for like 10 minutes and I was probably. like. 174 the night before and he's like just. go to sleep cuz you know you're not. usually uh sleeping the night before a. wake cut so go to sleep now we're not. going to take it all off we'll just do. it in the morning so the next morning. he's like we'll just do we'll try a bath. and I was like I never did a bath before. I don't want to try it he's like dude.

we're going to try it everybody does it. it's going to work so I'm in the bathtub. and you know they put the water to a. certain temperature it's like 108. degrees or something and I'm literally. in there for 20 minutes and I get out of. there and I'm laying on the bed he's. like all right we got to do another bath. and I'm like all right whatever man let. me let's just weigh myself real quick so. I could uh see how much I have left and. uh so I woke up at 174 and then after 20. minutes in the bath I was 165 what yeah. I over cut oh my God yeah I was like. what the fudge she's like wait hold up. we got to go downstairs and check it on. the scale downstairs so I went. downstairs and checked it on the UFC.

scale and it was 165 wow so I'm sitting. that's crazy so the bath is that. effective he said he from now on he's. said bro from now on we're doing the. bath cuz I was like I didn't realize I. didn't think about it cuz I'm like bro I. need to be I need to feel the sweat like. I'm in the btu I don't know if I'm. sweating or not and he was like dude. trust me you're sweating you're sweating. and I'm like annoyed cuz I'm like you. know you're cutting weight I'm like bro. I never want to do this stupid bad b. anyway and you guys have Sitting cut. over by 5 lbs that's crazy yeah I was. like I looked at I was like man maybe.

155 is possible but I was like yeah it. is possible if you get down to 65 that's. only 10 to go have you thought about. doing it 155 yeah uh earlier on but not. now I'm like I've never felt outmuscled. or anybody at 170 and I'm like I'm so. close to the title fight at 170 I'm like. what would be the point of going out at. 55 just to see what it feels like I if I. if I get point where they're still like. not giving me a shot or like pushing me. at all then I was going to like offer to. go down there and like let me see if I.

could make it do a test run or something. like that there's some dudes who get to. 55 like Islam where I'm like how are you. 155 you're so big yeah or Drew Dober to. do is a big [ __ ] it's crazy when. you see him weight cut because like his. whole face his chin is like all gone and. then when he puts it all back on he's. like super stoked and jacked you're like. a giga Chad yeah huge dude I like this. no makes no sense at all yeah Drew Dober. is built like a brick [ __ ] house it's. he's a big boy for 55 too like I wonder.

what he actually walks around that he's. got to be in the 80s yeah I think a lot. of these guys yeah so that's what he. looks like at weight but then you see. him inside the Octagon well that's look. how thick he is right there yeah he's. pretty. thick he's got a hell of a chin too man. that dude's got the squarest of square. jaws and he uses it the fight I'm like. oh my God that H him with some bomb boy. and he was so fast take it though yeah. he's tough yeah it's interesting to see. a guy like him get smooshed like when.

Islam smooshed him you're like man like. what is that squeeze like that has got. to be some otherworldly squeeze yeah I. tell guys I'm like you never felt it's. it's it's different like they'll oh you. just you're just under nuts you're do. this and I'm like bro roll with one of. them feel how it is are you going to do. your future camps with them as well yeah. I mean I'm going to like I've literally. been messing the guys trying to go to. dagistan uh but they're they're heading. out to Australia now but they have some. guys that are out there but I definitely.

want to go to dagistan. because I know khabib's done coaching. right now but is he done done that's. real yeah they said he's he's gonna be. done and why did he why did he decide to. leave coaching he just spend more time. with his family like I was telling. people he goes when they're in camps. they're all in they're all like they're. all together they're they're like one. big family where it's I'm going to be. every single practice with you I'm to be. here and they travel so much and for him. he has to Corner this guy here then you. got to go to all Australia then you got. to go to Vegas and you know he has two.

young kids and seeing how he is with his. kids like he brought his son out um to. Dubai when we were out there and it was. just cool to see because you never see. that side of you never see their family. like they don't post any of that or. anything like there so it was cool to. see and like him wrestling with his son. and he was showing me videos of his son. uh doing gymnastics and his son's going. to be a beast so w just seeing how he is. like kind of like how you're smiling. like there that's how he was when he was. like showing me his videos of his son so. like you could tell that he misses them. and you know for him when he goes to. Corner somebody it's not just cornering.

like there's when you go to a different. state every single person in that state. wants to see you they all want to touch. you they all want to uh get a piece of. you we were in Abu Dhabi and we went to. go visit like the police department out. there and you know we're all there. before Habib so it's like me Islam like. the whole team's there and nobody saying. nothing to us and I'm like you know. Islam and all these guys are still here. Islam's fighting for the title but. nobody's really caring then right when. Habib walks in every single person runs. out they run out with roses flowers like.

wait for him to get out the car and. following him and you're just see he's. just like a different level of Superstar. so for him he was also like telling me. too like I just want to get I want to be. able to uh just go to Starbucks one time. and just sit down and have coffee like I. used to like I can't do that anymore. happened though yeah Muhammad Ali. couldn't do that before he died you know. it's like you you reach a certain level. of Fame when that's just hit forever and. that's where he's at I mean he's a. legend forever yeah if he never coaches.

again never steps foot in a gym again. that guy is a legend forever yeah and I. I was going to consider him like if he. stayed on this track he would have been. a goat coach he would have be a goat. coach well hopefully he I I mean I want. him to be happy I want him to do. whatever he wants to do but if he did. decide to just do that to just. Coach man the the knowledge that that. guy has in also the the amount of. motivation he could give people because. you realize you're getting coached by. the goat yeah you know and he doesn't.

ask for nothing in return it's like he's. giving you his time his effort he's on. the match with you rolling and it's not. like he didn't retire because he was out. of shape or injured or anything like. that he's still he's still that same. khabib he's still that same top pressure. that same uh strength grappling he's. just heavier now which is wild so he's. just still moving like this heavyweight. now right bro and he's like he's still. freaking so strong I'm sure and it's. like when somebody's rolling with you. and they're sitting there oh order me a. Starbucks he getting me like in a kamora.

and I'm sitting there like bro should I. be like mad or like embarrassed and it's. it's like humbling because there's guys. out there like that and guys on his team. that aren't in the UFC yet that are like. that and you're learning imagine those. guys you're growing up your whole life. learning from these guys his younger. cousins Umar and Usman the Bellator. Champion and Umar who just fought this. weekend it's like they grew up under. yeah Umar got such a different style too. if you watch his style like real light. on his feet and great kicks he's got.

that great front kick that he throws. like question marks it a lot too he's. very smooth with it he's smooth man and. that combination that he threw that with. that left hook and dropped him and that. was amazing yeah amazing and he that's. just a small side of him like his. grappling is still there the same as. their guys but he has that striking too. and I tell people too you sleep on Islam. striking all their guys they all know. how to strike they just know what wins. what's the he beat ol on the feet he. beat ol on the feet you know and uh Umar. has real potential to be the champion he.

really does man he's he's [ __ ] good. dude and Hy barcelos is no no joke yeah. Hy is really good and for him to take. him out like that nobody's ever beat him. like that and like you said he has he's. a black belt he has I think he's like a. judo guy too a great wrestler on the. Brazilian team and he has it all so the. way that Umar just showed patience and. all these guys have they had that. pressure just having that n off last. name it's like people expect you to be. great so you're undefeated and your.

brother just won to Bell her title so. you're going out there and he just. relaxed calm cool and he's picking up. his head waking him up afterward it's. like yeah he did he hit him with the. punch then he realized he was out. already and he went and grabbed the back. of his head to help him yeah immediately. all they humbleness it was another level. and like learning from from them and. like being religious myself but it's a. different culture uh in America but. being over there five weeks with those. guys where they everything's to the tea.

everything's to the dot like I shared. one of my uh my friend uh horio he was. on that that show that um masv was on. that Mexican uh what reality show he was. on that show and like I shared like a. video from him on that show and it was. like women in bikinis but he was like it. was more for him and he's like brother. we shouldn't share that uh for us you. know uh be better at then I was like oh. no share for my boys like oh well just. share it with just him and I was like it. makes sense because being a Muslim. people look up to you and I see younger.

guys look up to me and I don't want them. to think that I'm this certain way like. I want to hold myself up to a higher. standard like they can't even look at. girls in bikinis and videos no like you. know you should like no you're not. supposed to it's supposed to be like. lower your gaze where it should only be. you on your you and your spouse or your. wife or anything like that so that's. what it that's what it should be that. dude who fought with the guy with one. eye who uh what's his name. again mag magedov he actually got in a.

fight with someone in a mall in dagistan. because the guy was doing a public. display of affection and he told him to. cut it out the guy took a swing on him. and he beat this dude's ass oh really. yeah because apparently over there like. you you can't even like kiss in public. it's a it's a different culture it's a. different thing it's not. like it's it's not like out of like hate. or anything like. just like you shouldn't be do that if. there's kids around there shouldn't be. you tongue kissing with a girl in front. of you or anything like that and being a.

Muslim being religiously should be like. in the household that's where it should. be it's just like holding yourself to. different type of standards and. obviously you want to show love and S. with your wife hold hands you don't have. to be freaking making out in public and. everything like that but in America it's. a different culture obviously and it's. you start seeing now more like. Americanized Muslims where they're like. oh well what if you do it this way or. that way it's like no you can't just. like switch what's in the Quran you. can't switch what's in written down. already it's been like that for for how.

many years and in dagistan everybody's. like that they all had that same. mentality and being in Dubai and Abu. Dhabi for those five weeks it was great. for me because it was like not an eye. opener but it was just more like. refreshing because you're training and. then you hear to call the prayer so. every single person I don't care if. you're the janitor or the the. the Workman or the fighter or anything. you're all going to pray at the same. time you're all shoulder-to-shoulder. praying next to each other and there's.

no like ranking in that we're all. shoulder to shoulder we're all praying. to the same God doing the same exact. thing at the same exact time and you. don't really get that kind of feeling in. America it's like if I pull out my rug. to pray on the street uh at a certain. time if people are looking at you weird. like oh what is this or you have random. people just like beeping or saying. stupid things because they don't. understand what it is they don't. understand the the discipline it is to. all right this is God's time now this we. supposed to pray five times a day I.

don't care where it is what you're doing. it needs to stop for this and every. single one of those guys had that. mentality like God pray how long did you. stop for every prayer is probably like. five 10 minutes long so once you're once. you begin the prayer it's it's it's not. that long so like I tell people all the. time where they're like dang you got to. pray five times a day but in the end. it's 50 minutes out of your life 50. minutes out of your day out of 24 hours. when you waste so much time scrolling. through Tik Tok scrolling through the.

phone is things like that it's like give. those 10 minutes to God give those 10. minutes to the person that brought you. here how does it work on a day you fight. same thing uh usually so there's a. morning prayer when you wake up in the. morning prayer then there's afternoon. then there's a midday prayer and then. there's a sunset prayer right when it. sunsets so usually I'm right after that. prayer is the fights after that and then. after the fight you pray again your your. late night prayer so for me also just.

hold you accountable to to no matter. what happens in the fight whether you. win or lose I still have to I still owe. to God to to to pray whether it's I'm. thanking them for a win or I'm thanking. them that I'm still able to pray I'm. still alive right now after this fight. that I'm still here cuz Anything Can. Happen these prayers are at very. specific times during the day or could. if you were in the middle of something. are you allowed to put it off and then. pray afterwards so you have a time frame. so from the morning prayer you have all. the way till the afternoon prayer to to.

do it then from the afternoon prayer you. have to the midday prayer and then. there's some people that I tell people. all the time like when you're starting. out if you prayer a prayer late do it. late like get the quantity in and then. work on the quality later but at least. get the quantity in first so you know. you have to pray five times a day so. when you're beginning out there's so. many people that they come in and my. coach he's a convert uh Louis tlor he's. he converted to Islam and you know he. had so many people tell him oh you can't. do this you can't do this you can't do. this why are you wearing this and it was.

just like turning them off from the. whole thing like I was born from a. different culture I was born doing. different things my family isn't Muslim. so I I'm if I'm with them and you see me. hanging out with people that do these. type of things don't come here cry to me. like I tell them bro go at your own pace. start patiently if you miss the morning. prayer all right hit both of them in the. afternoon if you miss the afternoon. prayer right hit that one and the midday. but just get the quantity in talk to God. It Centers you a lot of the time too. because in those 10 minutes you're not.

stressing you're not thinking about the. stress of the life oh I gotta I got to. get this done I got to get this done I. got to get this done that normal people. have in the workday I think it's kind of. like a meditation for me and it just. clears my mind clears my head and. knowing that I got it done and at the. end of the day I know that I did F my. fried prayers I that's the most. important thing I don't care oh man I. forgot to do my homework I forgot to do. this I forgot to do the stuff that I was. supposed to do for work but it's like I. did the most important things which is.

pray and when you're in a camp I would. imagine that that kind of having a rigid. schedule like that and having extreme. discipline and having a real purpose. like when you're doing this to pray to. God and you have these five prayers you. do during the day like it keeps you on. the path yeah it I mean those guys. there's something to whatever could be. keeps doing that's not just technique. it's not just that they have great. technique it's not just that they're. tough guys there's also this devout sort.

of uh ideology that they've ascribed to. that they that they live their life by. they're they're so devout in their. religious beliefs they have so much. confidence it's almost like that's all. taken care of like they can just. concentrate on on what they do like that. all you know God has a plan for. everything you don't have to like have. existential angst that a lot of people. roll around through life with yeah we. have this thing called T it means like.

God's will so whatever his will is. that's what it is so you could sit there. and train and be super stressed out and. like am I going to win or am I going to. lose this fight it's like you just tell. yourself whatever God's will that's. what's meant to be I've had I've lost on. the biggest stage I've lost uh my debut. in the UFC I'm coming undefeated I'm. like I lose a a close fight and I'm. telling why did God do this to me like I. pray five times a day like I I'm a good. person I do this and it's like when you. thinking back to that it all brought you.

to where you are today so knowing that. his plan is always the best plan no. matter what so now when I look back at. the losses I've had it's like maybe I. wouldn't be where I am right now I. wouldn't be as tough as I am I wouldn't. be as smart as I am I wouldn't have. changed the ways I've trained and I. think that all of Hab guys have that. mentality is you don't have the the fear. of losing because if I lose I was meant. to lose if I if I fail it was for a. reason there's a bigger plan in the end. and God may not show it to you now but.

he may show it to you in a couple years. he may show it to you in the next life. and because I go into every fight and I. tell I I'm asking God because we put our. head down to the ground and that's when. you're like closest to God when we pray. and it's uh called suud so when you're. putting your head down you're talking to. the highest and you you know you you you. deep from the heart because that's. basically kind of like your face to face. with God and I always tell him before a. fight and I like if it's going to make. me a better person a better Muslim grant.

me this Victory if it's not then grant. me the loss if it's going to make me a. worse person it's going to give me an. ego it's going to make me unhumble it's. going to make me worse to the people. that I love and the people that matter. to me most which my family then I don't. want the win I don't want the victory I. don't want the wealth and just having. that like that sense of whatever happens. happens it's meant to happen I think it. just changes everything well it's got to. give you a feeling of Peace cuz so many. people that that if I think that for a. fighter having a religion like that and.

especially being devout it does have an. advantage and that that's one more thing. you don't have to think about yeah you. know you don't have to and it also just. builds you up from you when you're a kid. just the discipline of I know I have to. do this this and this every single day. I'm not allowed to eat this I'm not. allowed to eat pork I'm not allowed to. do this I'm not allowed to gamble I'm. not all to play drink or anything like. that so it puts you in those things and. a lot of those things are worse for you. as a fighter anyway like you shouldn't. be drinking you shouldn't be eating for.

you shouldn't be going to clubs or. anything like that so in the end I think. it's like the being that's why You' seen. most of the Muslims starting to be the. best fighters out there well is it's. also they're coming from really tough. camps too I mean that is having a great. Camp is just such a massive Advantage I. mean and you must feel that having. trained with khabib and his boys like. that having an elite camp like that when. you're surrounded by Killers like you. must rise up to the level of your. competition that you're surrounded by.

yeah you have to there's no there's not. no weak Link in that gym every single. person in there is a monster like you. know you have your regular gyms and you. know that I could go with this guy. because I'm I'm feeling sore today I'm. feeling tired today let me roll with him. yeah let me coose a little bit and just. go smooth no them it's like you go oh. you're gonna oh you want to go with me. you picked me all right let's go and. it's like wait wait okay I thought you. were 135 pounder he's so strong and he's. so it like I've rolled with Umar before.

and I was like dude this guy is like a. monster and they don't have that fear of. themselves where you go to gyms and it's. like oh well the Banton weights on this. side the lightweights on this side this. side no they're all going together what. uh what do they do for strength and. conditioning um a lot of their stuff is. just they do a lot of normal stuff after. practice that like burnouts with will. hold a plank uh heavy plank after we. just grapple sparred and everything. we'll stay on our our hands we have to. stay there for 2 minutes 3 minutes until.

like sees you like breaking and then. push-ups then jump squats then lunges. and it's I think it's those little. burnouts after practice when you're. tired and your arms are dead that levels. you up with strength but they also do. have a strength coach that they would do. uh twice or three times a week uh while. you're in Abu Dhabi that he would put. them more through like um High Reps for. for time so they'll go from like uh. doing shoulder presses to punching the. bag doing box box jumps to like kicking. the bag little things like that um that.

I think just like build strength and. cardio at the same time when you are in. Chicago do you have like a regular. strength and conditioning coach that you. work with yeah yeah I got a strength. coach uh shout out to Matt Murphy we do. more like heavy lifting stuff so it's. really so for like thir body so we do. deadlifts I'm going heavy on deadlifts. we go squats I'm going on squats we go. uh bench press and then all the other. stuff is more like cosmetic but like the.

Bas is trying to look good the not. cosmetic but like I now we're going to. do these little uh rolls or something. like that. yeah and then farmer walks yeah farmer. walks so when you're doing this stuff. like when you're saying you're doing. heavy like how heavy are you going are. you are you doing a lot of like Reps for. strength or for conditioning or is most. of the [ __ ] you're doing heavy stuff so. out of Camp I'm doing more more heavy so. right now it's just like a a strength.

building phase and then once it gets. into Camp mode then it's more for reps. so like right now it's heavy with low. reps so I'm if I'm benching it's maybe. 250 for like four or five reps but. they're like cluster sets where I'm. putting it back on then I bring it back. down then I explode back up with it and. then with squats it's sitting down on a. CH and then exploding up sitting down on. the chair and then exploding up with it. but it's heavier but it's just uh. lighter reps and then when it gets.

closer to the fight he changes it up to. like higher rep stuff for the. conditioning aspect of it are you trying. to put weight on with this heavyweight. or you just trying to maintain your. strength I'm just trying to build more. strength and explosiveness so I want to. get stronger especially once you're in. the the next guy my whoever my next. opponent would be I figured it would be. a stronger guy heavy Grappler so I. figured I would need the the strength. and I'm not the biggest welterweight so. I want to make up for it with strength. and explosiveness like that and I think.

when people look at me they don't think. that I'm strong but when they feel me. inside the cage then I feel like it's a. lot of them guys get like their eyes. open like oh he's a lot stronger than I. thought yeah there's certain dudes that. are just strong as [ __ ] and they don't. look like it yeah but you look strong. but there's certain dudes it's. strengthed like Ben asrin oh like. certain strength like how the [ __ ] is. that guy like when you'd watch him. fighting Bellator when he was in his. prime when like he was ragd dolling like.

really high level Fighters and you're. like how what is going on here I know. it's technique but that [ __ ]. seems strong as [ __ ] I used to train. with him when I would go down to Rufus. port and I would like drive down there. once a week it's like two hours away. from Chicago but I would go in there and. I would train with him and I'm like. we're we're sparring with big gloves on. and you know he was the best striker so. I'm feeling like I'm lighting him up but. once he grabs a hold of you it's like he. takes you down and you cannot move once. you're on bottom and it's with big.

gloves on and like you really it's. really hard to Grapple and hold people. down with big gloves on but like so. after that every time I'll go with him I. like I cannot let him grab his hands. together if he locks his hands together. I'm going down and that was when he was. still in Bellator and like you said. people don't realize how good he was. back then when he came to the UFC it was. a different version of himself yeah he. was already worn out by the time he got. to the UFC already needed a hip. replacement you know like unfortunately. we didn't get him in his prime he was in. his prime when he was in Bellator even. before he went to 1 FC you know 1 FC.

didn't even really get him in his prime. Bellator had him in his prime and if you. watch some of those fights they're very. impressive and but Bellator didn't like. it they thought that style was boring. I'm like you got a dude who could do. whatever the [ __ ] he wants to people. what he did to kov I mean like my God. and Kosar is still killing it right now. that was what he was in his primary. younger version of himself. and to have Ben just Maul you and take. you down at will it's like I tell people. it's it's harder to beat somebody for.

five rounds than it is to finish him in. the first round it's like if I could. beat you dominate you for 25 straight. minutes that's a harder task than me. going out there and finishing you in one. minute one kick that's it like those. guys get all the credit but it's like. the guys like Ben those are the ones. that are having to push through for. those full 25 minutes dominating knowing. that all it takes is one punch or one. kick and they avoided all of that got to. be a real champion at 1fc atour and he. just doesn't get the credit I was like. people don't make sense well it's. interesting to watch someone who's like.

a real specialist and Ben in his prime. was a real specialist where he really. wasn't a good Striker he really didn't. submit guys but man if you got to hold. you you are going to get wrestle [ __ ]. yeah we Duke Ro is a literally show like. sparring drills he'll be like we're. going to do striking drills and Ben. would just be like standing there with. like his hands behind his back just like. looking up at the sky how wait for. sparring and he's like not doing the. drilling at all and I was sitt like what. the heck but that's when I was like when. he was boxing Jake I was I was wondering.

how serious he was going to take it. because I'm like I don't he doesn't take. striking serious at all and if you're if. you're a guy like Jake who's who's. athletic he's tough he's strong all it. takes is one punch to land I'm like I. don't think Ben just took that fight. serious at all and he's one of those. guys that I think nobody takes a loss. better than like a Ben Asen like he he. got knocked out by m he said well that's. sucked that when tweeted I'm like I'm a. I'm a terrible loser if I lose like I. don't want you to talk to me I don't. want to see anybody I don't want to I. don't want you guys to come near me so.

to like see guys like that it's kind of. like you want to learn from guys like. that honestly how to relax and just be. yourself after a loss yeah boy he he got. ruthlessly taunted on the internet too. all the memes of him yeah yeah and. that's what it sucks when you see guys. like that who are OG's him and Woodley. and and when they lose like that and the. world forgets that they were at the top. they were Tyron was one of greatest. welterweights of all time yeah Tyron in.

his prime was a bad [ __ ] when he. knocked I mean he he knocked out so many. guys but when he beat up Darren till. when Darren till was the man when Darren. ta was on his way up he dropped him with. a punch then strangled him dude people. forget the Wonder Boy fights he was the. one who had Wonderboy hurt Wonderboy. who's the great Striker yeah never. really had him hurt yeah at all and. either one of those fight no I mean they. were kind of boring fights but again. unless you're going to fight them the. way you fought them I feel like you got. to fight Wonder Boy in a boring fight.

you got to make him lead if he doesn't. lead if you're coming at him his. counters are just so nasty and his. distance his management of distance is. so good there's nobody better I think at. distance and Jon. Jones I'm I'm very interested to see how. he comes back now though three years off. well it's really interesting yeah yeah. I'm so bummed out man I do not like this. this whole thing I do not like this at. all I do not like when a champion leaves. I do not like I don't I do not like. having the best guy in the world not.

being the champion I do not like the. best guy in the world not fighting for. the title against John if like if. Francis wanted to resign and he wanted. to say I'm done I had a great career but. I made some money and I'm going to relax. yeah okay congratulations sir you had a. great career but to not make it through. negotiations I don't know what the deal. is I I suspect some of it involved him. wanting to be able to box as well. because there may very well be a pot of. gold at the end of that rainbow but I.

don't know because Tyson Fury is back to. fighting real boxers yeah he's fighting. usyk now and there's a Deontay Wilder. fight out there I feel like but do you. really want if you're Francis do you. want to fight uh Wilder who's he has. that one punch power right at least with. Fury I feel like Fury will dance around. with you a little bit let you show. something well I think isn't Deontay. supposed to fight Andy Ruiz isn't that. what's supposed to happen I think so is. that true yeah Jamie says it's not. booked it's talked about well uh Andy.

Riz versus Francis would be interesting. that would be a fun one that'd be. interesting cuz Andy's got some [ __ ]. hands he's fast he's so if Andy an. inshape Andy Ruiz like he was when he. fought Joshua damn he's got some hand. speed I'm a big fan of Andy Ruiz but. that second fight with Joshua he just. got so fat you could tell he's like that. that that was the money that was the fat. party. yeah I'm like women and you know he. showed up in my podcast studio in. Rolls-Royce with a diamond crusted watch. I was like damn Andy Ruiz it wasn't out.

the podcast like yeah I don't got no I. don't got a fancy car you know I just. got a Rolls-Royce or something like that. I was like what a rollsroyce I don't. even have a. Rolls-Royce I was like bro I'm still. trying to get a Tesla or something I was. like you're talking about I don't got a. fancy car I got a roll his ro oh he was. bald out of control and I think he was. partying too he had a group of boys with. him you know they were having a good. time you know like you come from nothing. all a sudden you're the heavyweight. champion of the world you knock out. Anthony Joshua and Madison Square Garden. like holy [ __ ] yeah he's a hero a lot of.

tacos a lot of. [ __ ] what do you think about another. boxing fight Garcia against uh tank oh. man Dante I hope they make that one. though Dante is something he's so unique. he's so javante is so interesting. because he I think I think if you look. at all the active boxers who are. champions he may throw the least amount. of punches yeah cuz he sets guys up and. so the first few rounds he's just.

calculating you trying to find your. openings testing you moving towards like. the first his first round of his last. fight I mean how many punches did he. throw like very few but godamn when he. hits you you're [ __ ] yeah that dude. can crack he's so good he's so accurate. and he's so sneaky the way he like dips. to the side Cuts in uppercuts and his. power man his power is just. extraordinary I am really interested to. see if Ryan Garcia can handle that I.

don't know I mean Garcia's fast he's. he's got a great counter he says I love. fighting southpaws I'm the I'm the. Southpaw killer but yeah Oscar de la ho. why is Oscar De La Hoy got fake abs you. seen that no wait does he bro Oscar de. la Hoy has got some fake. abs yeah something's going on man Oscar. De La Hoya didn't have abs throughout. his boxing career look at him now get. the heck out of here bro what's going on. there it's either either he's got some. fake abs or he's going.

semaglutide one or the other but the. thing is like his abs don't match his. chest or his arms you know weird look. how defined his abs are like look they. even when he's sitting there he's like. the liver King look at this here they're. like fully. tight I mean the thing is it's like he's. not that low body fat this is why it's. confusing if you like look at his body. like his arms and his shoulders when a.

guy has abs like that generally they're. really shredded it's weird yeah yeah. generally you have low body fat in your. chest like everything looks defined if. your abs look that defined yeah when. your abs are that defined the rest of. you is not that defined I'm like what. like all these people are claiming that. he got AB implants maybe he didn't. plants look like it looks like. a. damn kind of is that real like yeah. that's wow that's crazy they they look a.

lot better than I think that liver King. dude has them for sure oh man he has I. saw someone show that he didn't he did. they like he he was twisting his body in. certain ways and they they kind of go. away when he moves in certain directions. right but do these go away when you move. in certain directions these are actual. like things in in your body click on. that one with the belly and the guy. right next to them right where your. cursor is yeah cck on that one there's. no way is that really they can do that. this is etching etching maybe that's. what Oscar did maybe like they dug like.

a knife in there to that's crazy make. show up I think when they say etching. what they use is lipo suction is that. but but is that real oh that's what this. is but is it but that photo from that. photo Is that real cuz that look that. guy looks like legitimately jacked yeah. you know what I'm saying like he looks. like those would be his abs yeah don't. know I mean that this is from a men's. health article so damn might be full. [ __ ] let me go go back to those. images so maybe that's what Oscar did. maybe he did etching but it's like all.

of the sudden he's got abs out of. nowhere and he's showing. everybody that's that's so crazy very. look at that one is that a woman what is. that right there with the blond here I. got my laser pointer I forgot about that. I'm not looking at what you're looking. at right there in the middle got laser. pointer man I think this is the we might. have pulled this is that dude yeah the. [ __ ] going on there I think this is. that like uh it's one of the surgery. guys oh no yeah oh that guy's insane. Kendall oh yeah that guy's had he does.

have like this dude right here go to. that dude right there oh this one yeah. that's preposterous oh that is just. weird big fat belly with some crazy fake. abs the ab thing is weird so that is. that what they look like that thing. right there let me see what they look. like which ones are you looking at there. my laser pointer bro well I'm not. looking at that screen look at my laser. pointer. look at my. computer so is that what they look like. they're like little gelatinous thing oh. this is so disgusting a bad one I don't.

know if that's what they SK yeah that. guy's got abs and nothing else that's. what's weird it's like people get AB. implants but the rest of their body. looks like dog [ __ ] like yeah like why. would you want it yeah like how bad do. you yeah narcissism I yeah narcissism. that's exactly what it is [ __ ]. weirdos build up your I don't know if. Oscar did that but that's what people. are accusing Oscar of doing it doesn't. look right though it just looks weird.

like you said you didn't have it during. boxing when you were in your Peak shape. so that doesn't look too terrible right. there that just looks like he's flexing. his the side ABS obliques is that what. that is yeah those look pretty strong. yeah it looks pretty good but but his. buys don't yeah his bu and his chest on. it's just weird when one area of your. body is like very defined all all the. sudden yeah that's what's weird is that. it's all the sudden yeah my uh my girl. is doing a 75 day hard uh it's like you. do two workouts a day one indoors and.

one Outdoors for 45 minutes each time oh. then you pick any diet you want to do. you could do any type of diet you want. but you have to stick to it for 75 days. and you have to read like uh like a. motivational book 10 pages uh every. single day that would wear me out it. she's like just the books the. motivational books but her motivation is. I better have abs at the end of this 75. days and I'm like I mean if you're. eating healthy and you're working out. twice today I'm pretty sure you have at. least two ABS by the end of it and I was. like depends on what you start from. though right yeah yeah so what do you.

think of this Jon Jones serial gone. fight honestly I think it's a it's a. tougher fight than Francis really I do I. think that Siran his movement his. footwork he's so good with his front leg. and for John Jones who when remember. when he came back from OSP he looked so. stiff and that was time off and putting. a lot of muscle on he just looked like a. slower version of himself so now this. time it's a longer uh time off and. you're coming back with way more weight.

on and you're going against one of like. the faster heavy weights and the more. smoother heavy weights instead of. getting G you where you know he lands. that Hard Punch I could do it but I. could just shoot under that Hard Punch. and G I mean uh serro Gan you have to. watch the kicks watch the footwork cut. them off yeah the thing is that serial. gone was out grappled by Francis when. Francis had a bad knee francis's knee. was [ __ ] up and Francis out grappled. him and beat him handily with his. grappling yeah you know I talked to Eric. nixi and he said francis's grappling is.

on a totally different level than he. used to be before and he's so big and so. strong yeah that like you know he's uh. in Camp with bloy uh even off and he. said he was just holding him down doing. whatever he wants to him I'm like that. is really impressive cuz bloy beat Fedor. in combat SBO he's a monster himself mon. he's the one who got like stabbed right. yeah in the heart yeah he's he's one. time I saw him at uh you know he's under. Ali and we Ali had like a media day for. his Fighters and bloy like comes up to.

me and like I make picks every uh every. fight and I like Circle Fighters what I. think he's going to win I'll post it on. my Instagram and he like came up to me. he like shoulder PP he's like you didn't. pick me my last fight and I was like I. was like what and I was like dude I. don't even think I don't even know your. Fighters even really pay attention to. that like I like dude now I started. realizing that these guys are like. watching it but uh of course they watch. yeah I was like this guy's crazy but I. was like man I gotta pick him every. single time he goes. now that's like nuts but yeah I always.

talk to Eric Nix Eric Nix is one of. those coaches that he's like my brother. I'll call him after hey they're giving. me this guy what do you think about it. and he would always tell me like Francis. is Francis is one of those heavyweights. that loves to wrestle like you know. wrestling practice Strikers they don't. show up they they don't they hate to be. in that grind it's a different type of. grind they said Francis is there all the. time he loves to be in that. especially after that steepe fight the. first steepe fight he learned like. that's where his Achilles heel is is. grappling and that also you can't take.

everybody out like sometimes like not in. that fight at least Stipe just weathered. the storm somehow or another yeah and. you have to have the gas tank and you. have to have the grappling to survive. all those other exchanges but that was. at his moment remember when he was just. knocking everybody out and he had like. two minutes of fight time then all of a. sudden you fight a guy oh dang it's past. the second round well it's also like we. talked about with Hamza when Hamza went. after Kevin Holland if you get out of. that round how much do you have left he. got out of the round Stipe made it out. of the round and then stey started.

dominating but that second fight man. Francis is Tak down defense he looked. good patient Francis that's what DC was. saying patient Francis is a scary. Francis yeah that's why I'm mad yeah I'm. mad because I feel like we were deprived. of one of the great fights in MMA one of. the most compelling fights in MMA does. it mean I'm not interested in serial Gan. and Jon Jones I'm very interested in. that fight I'm very for all the things. you listed also for serial gan's. performance against taiu iasa it's like.

godamn serial Gan and cial Gan does a. lot of [ __ ] that's very unusual like. first of all he stands totally sideways. and he does like a twisting kick with. his front leg to throw a front kick you. know he does that very weird like he. stands totally sideways and he like. twists his leg in he doesn't stick it up. and stab it forward he like twists it. and go in yeah you never did that well. tawo it's a twisting kick yeah yeah it's. called a twisting kick okay. yeah so no that's him throwing side.

kicks kick yeah he thre spinning heel. kick he he throws this kick off the. front like if you go to Tai to. iasa um the one he was Landing to that. front to the body Tai is so tough though. man so tough Tai is so tough that was a. crazy ass fight and that was a perfect. fight to like show case what serial. gun's capable of cuz his his movement. the fluidity of his combinations and Guy. moves like a middleweight he's 240 plus.

pounds this was a great ass fight so he. stands sideways and he throws this front. kick when he gets distance he throws. this front kick off the sideways stance. and he turns his body oh there's that. kick to the body those those round kicks. oh this is the finishing but you oh yeah. very very interesting man watching the. two there it is see it see how he throws. it and he throws it off of both sides.

with the front leg he's the most agile. and the the like probably the most. technical of all the heavyweight. Strikers serial's very well-rounded when. it comes to his. striking he's so smooth so and he's like. intelligent like he understands the. distance all right now this is a knee. distance this is not kick distance very. interesting fight so for Jon it's going. to be can Jon take him down can Jon like. how does Jon perform at heavyweight can. Jon close the distance is he as fast.

what is the three years off like is he. hungrier and even better because he's. fired up and you know like y'all must. have forgot he's got that mindset he. usually does too right remember he was. always that guy that would want to beat. you at your own game oh you're a. wrestler I'll wrestle you you're a. striker I'll strike with you so if he. comes out there thinking croan you're a. smooth striker I I'll smooth you I don't. know it's also a first fight at. heavyweight we really don't know how. he's going to respond when he gets hit. by a big heavyweight we don't know. anything yeah and it's years and it's.

also John is older now you. know off honestly lot of partying yeah. John parties you know I don't know what. he's been doing maybe he's been living. clean over the last few years I don't. know I know I saw him with uh cejudo now. and yeah maybe that that cejudo mindset. will help him too so I like that I like. cejudo's mindset and I like that fight. ready camp I I think what Henry brings. to the table is very unique his mindset. is really incredible and you know I. talked to Mighty Mouse about it I had. Mighty Mouse on and uh Demetrius was.

saying that like he's so meticulous in. his training and how he prepares and. plans for things yeah like his. everything is like very very focused I. was thought uh Dan eay he was telling me. how he went down there and he was he's. like I never talked to anybody with kind. of like the war mindset as him it's like. he sees it as like a chess match he. breaks it down in that type of uh way. it's not like oh let's go out there see. red whatever happens happens he like no. he does this this and this even with the. I said I had uh breakfast with him once.

before the Sha Brady fight and he was. like let's watch a little tape on him. let's let me look up what he what he. does and just like watching one tape of. Shan Brady oh well he stands like this I. think you should could do this this low. kick will be perfect right here but uh. just seeing how he breaks down how he. talks people it just tells me that being. a coach and being at his gym he'll get. deeper and deeper and deeper into those. little aspects of fight that a lot of. people don't really care about or look. at a lot of I know a lot of Fighters. that they'll never even watch tape of. somebody they're going to fight they'll. never they're just going there with the. mindset of if I'm in shape and I'm on my.

bus I'm gonna win yeah I think he's one. of the great coaches out there I think. FASA hpp's probably I mean he's one of. my all-time favorites if not my favorite. but I think there's just a few guys like. that like Henry cejudo you know that are. just like their next level coaches they. just have this mindset they just that's. the most important thing I feel like. it's not all about toughness and right. I've had coaches that tell me like oh. well this guy never fought before why. you gonna think that he's a good coach. but you don't need to be a fighter or.

that some people are just better at. understanding and breaking down fights. in general than having to go in there. and fight some people can teach some. people can fight some of the great. coaches like think about guys like Teddy. Atlas wasn't known as a great boxer. amazing coach you know like there's. Emanuel Stewart wasn't known as a great. boxer but amazing coach one of the. greatest coaches ever there's there. quite a few guys like that yeah I mean. Eric Nicki my coach Mike Valley never. follow before he's the same way and like. I said it's. like some people are better at teaching.

some people are better at breaking down. film and seeing other guys weaknesses. like I know Nick was telling me that he. would he used to be a football player. and he would just like bring that. mindset that game plan mindset of what's. the read this if I know these guys are. good at the pass well we're going to. play pass defense and then Fighters. don't think like that for me when I. fought Daman Maya my goal is to stand a. strike with you I'm not gonna grapple. with Damen mayia when I'm fighting. Wonderboy I'm not gonna strike with. Wonderboy I'm gonna take him down right. when I'm fighting these guys a certain.

way I'm switching it up each time is. John in Phoenix now is he training down. there he was uh I know he was down there. he said he was down there for visiting. cuz he was with Jackson wikle John they. had a falling out so he left and then I. think he was doing stuff out of his. garage but then now he was down with. cejudo trading down there with them now. I think I'm not sure if he's doing his. full Camp there but I know he was doing. some stuff there one thing he's done. right is put that weight on slowly yeah. that's the one thing he's done right. because he's got accustomed to being 255.

pounds and walking around real big and. heavy and he looks real big and heavy he. looks like a heavyweight he doesn't look. like a light heavyweight the gained. weight he looks like a [ __ ]. heavyweight and I'm wondering who he's. sparring with because you know there's. this being in the gym and being who you. are Jon Jones you know there's people. like want to see how he is and a million. people trying to get an inside scoop of. oh how does he look how does he look and. we really haven't heard anything like. that yeah from uh any of the little uh. Birds on somebody's shoulder or. something like that so I'm wondering if.

he's actually sparring with anybody. training with anybody or if he just has. that much loyal teammates that are not. going to say a word about it until he. wants to I don't know it's a good. question because if he's gonna fight a. guy like siral gun he really wants to. get some movement some some really Top. Flight kickboxers so like who does he. have that he can work with like that you. know you really want Cel is so good at. mixing up the kicks and the knees and. the punches and the combinations and. he's so and he's so light like the way. he stands on the outside like if you're. going to compete against like a guy like.

that you got to get some similar looks. and how many similar looks are there out. there for a guy that's 245 lbs that. could move like that that moves like Cal. yeah there's not a lot yeah interesting. fight but here's the problem let's say. John beat seral gone okay and then John. fight Stipe and John beats Stipe then. what people are sleeping on Curtis. blades I think he's one of the toughest. guys there my immediate goal is to beat.

siral Gan and to beat stepe miic Jon. Jones said after that I'll be in. conversations with the UFC go to the UFC. heavyweight um. rankings because I'm I'll show you what. I'm [ __ ] interested in what I'm. interested in at UFC heavyweight click. on that [ __ ] pav pav oh my God that's. the boy yeah Sergey pavlovich that. [ __ ] that's the Russian Fedor I. mean the the Russian Francis rather he.

like comes out guns blazing on people. just like Francis used to that. [ __ ] can bomb he's a mon he's so. fast too with he's so accurate very good. very good does it have any fights of his. not on that website not the way I have. it um the way he beat black beast and TI. to ofas so quick I was like the tit. fight was incredible I mean you think. about seral Gan going through that war. with him and Sergey just put it on him. he's his boxing is [ __ ] tight very.

tight man real power punches excellent. technique big guy too yeah big heavy. [ __ ] I think cor was talking about he. used to train with him and he was like. yeah he'd be in a practice room with us. uh all the time and stuff like that so. coming up with man I mean this [ __ ]. dude's scary I mean to beat Derek like. that to have Derek completely on his I. mean look at the combinations he's. Landing Mark Smith oh there a Dan Merle. out seen enough look at that that.

[ __ ] dude can. crack he can crack fast he's interesting. so I want to see him fight more. obviously he beat two go to the Tai to. iasa fight he beat two iasa I mean the. [ __ ] combinations this guy. has look at this boom Oh that was so. smooth 30 seconds in there and Tai gets. up and just guns. blazing so. accurate oh my.

goodness. dude so he's to me out of with Francis. leaving he's one of the most interesting. guys at heavyweight if not the most. interesting guy at heavyweight yeah I'm. very interested to see him fight a guy. like Jon Jones that that's crazy to me. so if gets a few fights at heavyweight. if he gets sir Gan if he beats him. that's an if and then if he beats stoic. that's another if and then he fight. Sergey and maybe Sergey gets someone.

along the way to build him up even. further still think people don't know. about him Curtis blades called him out. and Curtis like called Sergey out yeah. he's like yeah well I know everybody saw. that they want trying to get my reaction. to this fight suran's get it back toback. whatever all right he's cool give me uh. Sergey next and I'll show you guys my. wor great for the undercard so you have. J Jones s Gan and then Curtis blades and. Sergey on the undercard. whoa woo Big Fellas that's yeah Big. Fellas throwing hammers that would be.

good I like that and then also Curtis. blades will really test him in the. wrestling Department Curtis is an. excellent wrestler that's a really good. fight to see what Sergey can do against. an elite wrestler and a guy with real. experience like you know Curtis has been. in there with a lot of top-notch guys. yeah so he's got like world class. experience really good wrestling skills. tough tough dudes he's been so close. every single. time you get to that level all it takes. is one punch he only lost like Francis.

then that black beast uppercut but other. than that he's been one of the most. dominant heavyweights out there that. black beast upper was. crazy Derek can just put the lights out. have you seen him looking at like 170. later I know isn't it crazy I was like. is he running or is it just like a bad. picture I was like I don't know you. really can't tell you can't tell but it. looks like he's taking it real seriously. decided to get in real good shape are. you going to stay up for his fight [ __ ]. yeah his fight's at 1:00 a.m. I know. you're going to stay up for that I stay. up the lead anyway man I like that's. crazy that didn't make no sense I was.

like what how the heck is it so late uh. where is it taking place what is this oh. he's getting thiso thought manicure and. pedicure done I love Derek it was. supposed to be in uh I think Korea and. then Korean zombie was supposed to be on. the card but I think he got injured so. then they moved it back to America but. they already had the time slot done oh. really yeah I think so that's what I. heard weird yeah so they had to keep it. there CU they I think they had so many. of those fighters from Asia on the card. Apex so it's at the Apex and it starts. at 12 a.m. Central Time whoa so that.

means it's going to start at what is. that in uh California time 10 10: 10. p.m. 10 p.m. main card main card with. five fights so what do we got here. prelim start at 9:00 p.m. central Time. so 7 oh Doo Choy that's doho Choy uh is. is coming back that was a he was a wild. dude oh he was a beast yeah he took a a. lot of time off he hasn't far for a few. years what else is on the card prelim. sorry let me see what what you got here. let see.

here okay interesting there so beloy is. on that fight too against marcine Tibor. that's a good fight and doo Choy against. Kyle. Nelson Crazy how late that is though I. might I might just record that one. that's a beautiful thing about ESPN plus. and streaming you just get it anytime. you want it it's always available in. Dubai when they had like a couple fights. on and it like the time change was so. much and I would like not want to watch. it until the next morning I was like. I'll you do cardio in the morning and. watch it on my phone and then my coach. hey did you see uh San Haagen and uh uh.

song his cut and I was like bro I did. not want to know the results like dude I. was saving it the whole time right when. I get out of Chanel he tells me you see. the cut who's San Haagen fighting next. Cheeto oh that's. righto woo February 18th that's at the. Apex d man yeah I think that makes me. want to take a flight yeah that makes me. want to take a flight I might want to. take a flight [ __ ] what's in the.

undercard of that. fight that's another against Talia. Santos Talia Santos is no joke Aaron. blanchfield is the [ __ ] truth when I. was uh with Dave pornoy U Dave porno was. telling me he pet all this money on. Molly she fought Aaron I was. like oh you with before the fight I was. like dude dude that's I mean Molly's. tough Molly's very tough meatball can. throw bombs but Aaron blanch Fields the. truth she's a she's a mon she's gonna be. a CH she's one of those that's going to.

challenge chevchenko for it super. technical and she's catching SE. chevchenko at the end of her Reign you. I'm saying like not to say that shenko. is slipping she's definitely not but. this it's a good time for her to be. coming up because there's really no one. else when you look at that division. there's very good Fighters very good but. there's no like compelling really. interesting storyline other than Aaron. yeah cuz she's so young 23 I think they. just gave her uh Alexa Gro seeno against. Gro but like you said it's not like I'm.

not looking at it like oh man but if I. see blanchfield in there like even right. now I'm like if it hits the ground I'm. interested Chef jenko is so good she's. so good when she knocked out Jessica ey. with that head kick I was like God damn. yeah very few women can fight like that. very few women could just Flatline you. with one shot like that yeah I would see. her and um Moreno training at the Apex I. mean training at the pi and I'm like man. I just want to see how their sparring. goes look it'd be fun like she's one of. those girls that I feel like could keep.

up with some guys in in the sparring. Department with gloves and shin pads on. but yeah I was just always like. interested in it like you said she's. smooth everywhere and now her wrestling. and grappling get into that level too. where I feel like she's trying to show a. different side of herself you better not. break into that lady's house she's got. [ __ ] five guns strapped to her while. she sleeping see her shoot guns man I. talked to some guys that went to a range. with her they go dude she's like a world. class marks woman like that yeah like. world class like really good like beep.

those you know like those. things that's her she's doing like. Somers sa she could do all that [ __ ]. well obviously she's so athletic you. know but it's like her accuracy and her. Marksmanship is like really world class. they were saying like dude people were. so impressed she could [ __ ] shoot. yeah which is that's the wrong house to. break into. son I was uh one of my buddies he's like. uh he teaches people to to get their. guns uh to get their gun permits in.

Chicago where they carry it on them. they're carrying conceal and he's like. some dude tried to break into my garage. and I like gave him the yo stop where. you're going and he turned around super. quick so I had to shoot him I was like. you broke into the wrong house like I. like he's like dude I'm at the freaking. gun range every single day and this guy. like tried to rob me like what a [ __ ] I. felt so he's like I felt bad for the guy. so but I still shot. him yeah there's a lot of people out. there doing stupid [ __ ] right now yeah. especially Chicago is the I know Chicago.

is so filled with violence do you ever. think about getting out of there. honestly I I do especially when it was. during those Riot times and just the. mayor just sucks like she doesn't do. anything to the mayor's terrible she's. the worst and she's such a goof and she. was like outlawing protest on her block. literally and I I you know train with. cops and I I roll with cops so one of my. cousins he has like a a cell phone store. and he's telling me that like he put his. shutters down and he's like though. there's people outside my store trying.

to break in with the shutters and so. just come and help me so then I'm like. all right so I'm trying to call my boys. that are cops and I'm like hey uh. they're trying to break into this guy's. store could you guys help him and. they're like no they're telling us to. stay inside they're telling us not to do. anything they're telling the police not. to do anything I'm like bro what he's. like they're telling us to stay in the. in the freaking thing I was like that. was crazy so we literally pulled up and. like obviously my guy has like a gun. inside the store so he's like shooting. upward outside of the store so people. like run away and like people end up.

running away so then we pull up and. people are like across the street. yelling like you guys got insurance you. guys want to try to kill us over it and. you guys know you got insurance that's. so crazy I'm sitt don't shoot at me. while I'm robbing you I want to like. just SN like people are just so. airheaded so like we literally like they. put everything in the trucks and took. everything out of the store and people. saw us taking everything away and they. still broke in and just smashed. everything for no reason at all it's. like so many Knuckleheads so many yeah. and it's like where would you go if you. didn't live in. Chicago honestly I was like on the eyes.

of moving to Vegas yeah yeah obviously I. want to train at a good gym and the uspi. there yeah access to all those resources. yeah and then I'm really close to like. Nick six so I I like him but it's just. hard because I'm a big family man so. like we're going to my mom's house every. Sunday for dinner like going back there. my whole family's there so it's a lot. easier and then like my teammates in. Chicago they've been up with me since. the beginning like 10 years I've been. with those same guys that I'm still. training with now even if I go train at. other gyms or train with other teams I'm.

still with the same core of guys so like. I wouldn't want to like leave them. before I get to you got a whole system. in place down in Chicago too yeah like. we have and I know what I'm doing yeah. and that's the the thing I have so many. people like you need to come here you. need to come here we have this many UFC. guys this this and this and I'm like. we're doing it right like Brian K told. me he had a great time with you oh he's. a man he he was so cool I was like. freaking so he went to your house ate. with your family the whole deal he was. eating with my dad and we're eating at.

eating breakfast and then uh we brought. you up and then my dad's like I don't. like Joe Rogan and I was like what are. you do this is Bri K this is a boy and. then Brian's like oh why not he's like. yeah you know he he never interviews my. son after the fight and I was like oh my. God that's what I said I was like oh my. God stop it and I was just like I have a. d like me. now literally he's prob get mad at me. like when the the fights go long if a. fight goes to a distance or goes to a.

decision there you guys are if a fight. goes to a decision like I don't have the. say as to whether or not a fighter gets. interviewed that's the truck yeah yeah. it's generally they run out of time it's. a time constraint cuz like they make a. concession like say if there's uh five. fights on an undercard and the undercard. has to take place within x amount of. minutes you know because it's on ESPN. plus like if fights go to the distance. and they look at the time they don't. like the first fight went to distance. second fight goes to distance they go no.

interview they'll just say it in my in. my ear okay yeah and I tell them I like. you know you know dads are always the. ones looking out for you like how can. they give this guy an interview and now. you an interview it's Joe and I'm like. bro like chill out like relax but BR. yeah Brian was hilarious he was he was. super cool and he had some hands he was. fire with my boy oh he boxes yeah he. good I was like all right you got some. you got some left in you needed to one. of them Jake Paul fights oh no don't get. Brian knocked out please please don't do. not Jake Paul just like a random Tik.

tocker you can mess with him you don't. want Brian getting punched in the face. he's already got problems with his head. you don't want him getting his Dome. rattled he's 150 years old look at him. here throwing. [Laughter]. punches look at. him he's slow as [ __ ] don't let him. don't let him do that to anybody stay. away. Brian but it's cool just like the. experience like we go to the it's called. the Swallow Cliff stairs and he ran it.

up there with me yeah that one of the. things we do like every week down there. at chicagoing hard stair running hard. hard pushing up there and we usually go. to the top and we're sparring up there. and like people are just randomly like. looking what the heck's going on what. are you guys doing so what what do you. do in terms of recovery do you have like. a system do you get massages do you do. ice bath do you do cold Plunge sauna. like what do you do yeah I mean I got a. um a sauna at my house like one of those. uh light saunas and infrared one. infrared yeah so I got an infrared sauna. I got all the the boots all those other.

extra things I get a massage when I'm in. Camp once a week when I'm not in Camp. probably like once every other week or. something like that or when I'm feeling. it sore but now it's being very careful. and being smart with the way I'm. treating my body it's like if one of the. biggest things I learned from the the. the guys uh from I's team is like. they'll come in before practice and. he'll like he'll ask you like today's. your heart part how do you feel mentally. are you okay do you get any fight with. anybody in your family are you stressed. out like if you have any of those issues.

with your head you're not training. really yeah interesting yeah so he's. like interesting because it's hard Spa. because basically you're in a fight yeah. you're going to be in a fight and if. you're not fully engaged and you're not. fully ready for it you're really not. going to gain anything and you're going. to hurt yourself oh and that's where. injuries come from and little things so. when he brought that up I'm like huh. like I figured you guys would be like. tough it out tough it out man up don't. like my mentality was when I got there. and like don't be soft yeah but they're. very smart with it and just shows you.

how smart they really are that even. though they're beyond tough they know. there's there's a certain little area. that you really need to address yeah and. it was it was cool like like I said I'm. like one of those guys where probably. every single Camp I'm. overtraining and like I don't feel like. I'm ready unless I'm overtrained really. so yeah cuz you know you I work out. twice and then I'll be like three hours. of doing nothing I like man I should. have do something I need to be doing. something right now let me go for a jog. do you use like a heart rate monitor or. anything to see when you're resting.

heart rate you do whoops yeah yeah when. I'm at I do I do whoops so can you tell. from that whether or not you're over. training and do you back off when you. are it'll tell you know you'll you'll. get those days where it'll be like. you're redlined or whatever um but I'm. still going to train but not train as. crazy hard right but for the most part. when I'm even feeling tired and I'll be. like you're 90% recovery uh and I like I. feel like trash but then mentally I'll. be like oh well the whoop say I'm okay. so I think that yeah maybe maybe I am.

okay maybe I'm just being soft mentally. when my body feels terrible but it's. like the whoops tell me I'm okay so I'm. I'm just trusting it so that's all you. use to make sure that you're not. overtrained you just and you monitor. like what it says about your heart rate. and new resting heart rate and all that. chance yeah yeah I'm waking up and I'm. seeing what it says and it's like when I. started really believing it was when I. caught covid and like I woke up and it. was like the the day before I was. supposed to come to a fight and I was. fighting lme me good I mean Diego Lima. and then uh we were supposed to leave.

the next day and I woke up and it said. zero on my recovery zero yeah it said. zero and I was like what the fudge and. then all of a sudden like that night. like I was like literally just like. shivering in bed I woke up in the middle. of the night shivering and I was like. what the heck's going on and I was like. freezing and I was like no no I got to. fight this week so I put like my jacket. on went to bed and I'm like still. shivering with my jacket on and I was. like what the heck's going on so then I. look at my whoop and it says Dad and I'm. like so I call like my buddy who's a. doctor and I'm like dude what do I do. for shivering and he's like he's like.

he's like bro uh I think you should go. get tested it was like early on when Co. first hit and I was like no I don't got. Co dude I'm fighting this week and he's. like I don't know I think you those are. symptoms for Co and I was like like I. hung up on it I was like forget you uh. but like the whole night like I was up. the whole night and I was like I hit up. Ali and I was like are they going to. test me when I come down to the when I. get there tomorrow and he's like yeah. and I was like what if it says I'm. positive he's like then you're G going. to have to drive home or you're gonna.

have to fly back uh well they're not. going to let you fly back home you have. to drive back home or you wait to two. weeks in Vegas and I was like but. they're for sure going to test me he's. like yeah so then I was like all right. you going to fight even if you were sick. with Co yeah cuz like you go through a. whole camp and were you still training. when you were that sick well that was. just like the first day of hit so I was. like shivering that day and then the. next day I was supposed to leave so I. woke up the next day my flight's in like. a couple hours and I'm like why the heck. am I freezing or whatever and then like. I'm calling everything that time and I'm. like I don't want to fly to Vegas and.

then them send me back but I for me I'm. like if it's a cold I'll get over in a. day I'll get over in a couple days and. then fight Saturday so I still have. three or four days to get over it right. right how many days did it take you to. get over. Co um it was probably like two days of. just like chills and shivering and then. just like body soreness but like by like. day three I was feeling okay but like I. was like in the best shape ever like. you're your Camp you're healthy yeah and. did you work out at all while you had.

covid it was like a a depressing moment. because my fight just got canceled. because of it yeah so then I was like. fud this I'm just like eating trash and. laying there and then probably about. like day four then I was like all right. I need to get up and reschedule this. fight and then do something so like by. day four I was back to training. regularly again there's a lot of guys. who try to work through Co work out. through Co while they and they got. [ __ ] up that's Hamot yeah Hamot got. [ __ ] up because he's too tough too. tough for his own good and while he was. sick as a dog that [ __ ] was. still going to the gym and and doing.

rounds in the bag and working out like a. beast and then he was throwing up blood. yeah I was hearing about that I was. hearing that yeah he's throwing up blood. I was like what yeah he was coughing up. like his whole toilet bowl was filled. with blood and the question with that is. like what has that done to his lungs. like does he have scarring on his lungs. is are his lungs at full capacity. because he was hospitalized more than. once with Co like it was a big deal. because he's such a knucklehead in that. regard like he's so tough that he worked.

himself to the bone while he was sick. with covid and then got hospitalized I. think twice wow yeah and then the Cody. garbrandt did the same thing Cody. garbrandt had covid kept working out. kept training never got himself tested. didn't find out he had covid the the. whole time until he went to Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson had him on a podcast and they. it was during the pandemic so they. tested him they hey man you got Co and. he's like oh that's what's been going on. he he had had Co for [ __ ] weeks oh.

wow really working out work still. working out just too tough too tough for. his own good so for a long time never. got over Co because he kept training. that's crazy crazy but I mean for me. like I said who knows if it wasn't my. fight week if I would have just still. continued on or if I ever got even. tested right like I would have figured. it was a regular normal cold got over. the chills when um uh DC was training. for Stipe he got Co in Camp yeah and. still fought and. won I mean he W worked through it just.

worked through Co you just got to adjust. yeah He adjusted and he just you know St. I mean uh DC brother is very smart so he. didn't train too hard yeah he just knew. what his body was telling him and then. got over it and kept training so he had. like a few slow days where it wasn't. that wasn't pushing it very hard but. apparently Hamza just [ __ ] I kill. everybody I kill everybody so he's just. getting in the gym coughing up a storm. while he's sick as [ __ ] you know that's. it was real bad for a lot of people that.

didn't take time off you know didn't. didn't take breaks cuz if you think. you're too you're you're tough the. problem with being tough is you are. breaking down your immune system every. time you work out hard so if you're sick. already so immune system's compromised. and then you're breaking your body down. cuz you're tough cuz you're working out. now the CO's really getting into your. body I mean that can happen with the flu. that can happen with everything yeah and. that was the hard part too is cuz you. know you're at a gym and you're. wondering if you have a fight you're. like hey make sure you don't come to the.

gym if you have Co make sure if you have. any type of symptoms and you didn't know. to trust anybody and like you catch Co. and my fight week and I'm like looking. who to blame I'm like how I did this. somebody how did I get Co I didn't do. nothing else I didn't go nowhere I just. went to the gym and back home sometimes. people have and they don't even know. they have it my real estate lady she had. it and she didn't find out until she was. going to um a wedding so she had to get. tested cuz she was going like the. Bahamas or some [ __ ] and they tested her. and she's like I have Co they go you got. Co she I don't believe this let me get. tested again so she got tested again.

turns out she has Co wow and never felt. anything never felt any symptoms at all. nothing that was the the being in. Chicago everybody would catch it at. weddings like being a middle eastern. they have weddings every single Sunday. and then my mom would still want to go. to weddings I'm like you're not going to. weddings like we have to go to this. person's weddding and I was like that's. where people going to catch it cuz like. 90% of people don't even know they have. it and then all of a sudden the next. week 16 people from that wedding got it. or 10 people from this bu he caught it. and I was like yeah cuz you could kind.

of have it and just kind of feel just a. little down not think it's that big a. deal and then you're giving it to. everybody or there's people that have. the antibodies and they didn't even. realize like wait I had it before and. right doesn't make any sense yeah weird. times man but thank God the UFC kept. those fights going on at the Apex put. together that whole covid bubble tested. the [ __ ] out of every body made sure. that everybody was clear before they got. in the building yeah it was beautiful. man and it I felt so privileged to be. there during that time like I remember. thinking when I was there for the Tony. Ferguson uh Justin gatei fight which was.

in Florida in An Empty Arena during. covid Empty Arena it was crazy but I. remember thinking to myself man I feel. so fortunate that I get to be here cuz. everything was shut down the whole. country was shut down but yet here we. are watching this fight live with no. audio and it's a [ __ ] amazing fight. and there's only like 10 people here. watching it does that change the way. like you commentate it too cuz obviously. the energy is different I don't know man. I don't think so I think I think we did. it the same way but I tell you what.

though I really do love fights at the. Apex Center like when we were talking. about Cheeto and San Haagen I'm really. thinking about flying in for that just. because I love seeing fights at that. Apex Center man yeah I know Ring's not. as good I don't I think I wish they had. the same fullsize octagon there yeah I. would I think they should scrap that. little [ __ ] octagon and put a full. siiz octagon there because I think it. should be uniform I think the sport. deserves a uniform siiz octagon but man. being there live is is exceptional when.

that's that little Arena and there's. very a few people there you just feel. special feels like real like real. privileged to be able to be there for. that yeah if you're in the audience I. tell like my family was there they're. like dude I never watched a fight I. never want to watch a fight not like. this it's like sitting Courtside for. like an NBA game or something something. because you hear guys breathing every. you hear every little thing you hear the. corner and everything it changes. everything too and then you hear. commentators too like when you're in the. cage it's weird for you because you're. like you're hearing DC and uh busy talk.

and I was like I wanted something to. shut up you don't know what you're. talking about something like that. because you're in there and it's it. changes the way you fight too it's a. different type of energy yeah sure I. mean some guys hate it they want that. crowd like sugar Sean like he wants that. crowd he wants to hear that Roar you. know some guys they like some guys who. like takes the pressure off of them when. they're in that little place there's no. one there feels better feels easier. lighter yeah that's I had a a teammate. do have his debut there last week and I. told him it's going to be better for you.

because there's not a lot of people. there you're not going to feel like it's. the same energy you got to just have. that mindset like it's in the gym yeah. because if you just change the the way. you think about it it changes everything. not oh man this is my debut i this is. the biggest stage the biggest uh company. the one I always wanted for the dream. but you're fighting with 50 people in. the crowd so it feels like it's that. normal bar that you're used to fighting. in freaking Buu Indiana yeah how hard. was the first debut for you the first. fight in the UFC how much different was. it than anything.

else for me it was it was different. because I took it a short notice too and. uh it was during Ramadan so oh yeah so. then they called me for that one but. like I was nine and0 outside the UFC and. I was I just won uh the tight NFC belt. and I was still waiting for my shot I. was like dude they're not giving me a. shot they're not giving me a shot and. like I said I've my coach seeing his. footsteps and seeing him he never got a. shot in the UFC but he was killing. everybody he was like on a 10-fight. finish streak of guys in the first round.

and like they never call him and I was. like bro if he's finishing people like. this and he never get a call like what. makes me think I'm GNA get a call then. they called me dur RAM on short notice I. was like a couple weeks and it was alen. Joe ban and I was like we have to take. it so we took it and um it was. International fight week too so that. just changed everything too cuz it's. like a lot more how you train during. Ramadan how how do how did you organize. it honestly it's just basically I don't. really change anything but the the way I. eat at night because I'm cutting weight.

at night so I have to make sure that. since I'm cutting weight in a camp I. have to eat healthier so but you can't. drink water during the day no you're not. drinking water or no water F dur day TR. during the day yeah so I'll train in the. morning at 10:30 a.m. no water no water. so I'll train at 10:30 and then I'll. have another practice at 6:00 and then 6. what you when what time you're allowed. to eat when the Sun goes down I'm. allowed to eat uh usually during those. times it was during uh the sun was going. down at like 7:38 so the moment the sun.

goes down that's when you can drink. water and that's when you can eat food. yeah so you're training W with no water. yeah yeah I'm not training with no water. or food that's do you get up early and. eat yeah so like our morning prayer is. uh usually at like 4:30 a.m. so you have. all the way up until that 4:30 a.m. to. eat or drink so I'll wake up probably. 4:00 4:00 a.m. and then I'm treating it. like I just uh had a weight cut so I'm. drinking a Pedialyte I'm drinking. getting my electrolytes and I'm making.

sure that I'm having good carbs that I'm. going to have so I be able to train so. I'm eating white rice uh eggs good. protein so I just have to be very smart. with what I'm eating and not just like. junk right A lot of people during. Ramadan they're gaining more weight. because like you're not eating all day. you're not drinking all day then it's. time to break your fast so you'll eat a. little bit of dinner your stomach's. already shrunk so you're not that hungry. but then you're eating sweets sweets. sweets and that's the biggest thing for. us is like your mom's making all these. sweets during Ramadan you want to try. this this and this so for me it's just. being way more disciplined during it and.

that's got to be hard to not drink water. while you're training yeah I think it. probably after day four my body like. gets used to it it just toughens up and. I tell people like you never know how. strong your body really is until you. push it and I think it just like evolves. and it learns to to keep doing it so so. then so your second training session of. the day why don't you schedule that. after it's dark out I I started doing. that this Camp because when I fought luk. was during rot so my coach is like Hey. we're going to adjust everything to that. so my second training camp was always at.

9:00 P p.m. at night but for the alen. Joan fight it was still like I don't. care I was wasn't even like I said I. wasn't thinking about the science of it. or anything like that I was like let's. tough it out so I was still training. twice a day and then um so with with the. luk fight did you eat dinner first and. then go to train drink water yeah I. would eat dinner and then then go train. again at night and uh and all the guys. would still they would adjust their. schedule the the whole team would come. at like 9:30 p.m. and then they would. come and train with me at that time well. that's nice did you uh did you like nap.

during the day like how did you take. care of your days yeah so you do your. morning I do my morning session whatever. it was and then you know during Ramadan. you try to be closer to God so it's not. like just starving yourself or uh. staying away from food and drink it's. like you want to get closer to God so. you're trying to read the Quran you're. trying to be more at the mosque whenever. you can there's a night prayer that we. we do and it's like a late night prayer. that everybody goes to the mosque at the. same time it's called so a lot of is. just doing as much as you can possible.

to be closer to God and be a better. Muslim so during the day getting your. mind off the fight where I'm not I think. it helps me a lot of time too because. I'm not stressing about the fight. because I'm trying to do be the best. type of Muslim I can be so read the. Quran more you want to try to read the. whole Quran during the month uh of. Ramadan and you want to just bring. yourself close to that learn more about. it learn more about the religion. everything like that so if you had a. title shot that took place during. Ramadan would you have any apprehension. like if you had your qualms if it was. your choice would you rather have a a.

fight outside of Ramadan or would you be. fine getting a title shot during Ramadan. no I I mean I would definitely want. outside of it it's it does compromise. you it's it's hard yeah it's like it's. not easy and it's I always tell myself. like I'm not going to do never not. another fight during Ramadan again like. they call us this thing I'm going to say. no but then when they call you with Main. Event fight right against a guy that. beat you before it's like I'm never. going to say yeah has be ever fought. during Ramadan no no a lot of those a. lot of them they refuse to they decide.

not to and they like they said they just. focus strictly on the the religion. aspect of it so like I said for me I've. done it outside of the UFC a lot of the. times and I fought a couple times. outside of the UFC during Ramadan so I. had like a game plan of what I was doing. and a way of just toughing it out. through it so I think it just helped me. out in general but um yeah back to I. mean the Jan. fight International fight we I think it. was Brock Lesnar fighting that week too. uh so it was just lot of eyes a lot of.

eyes it's cool to see and um I was never. one of those guys beforehand that would. like watch tape or break down film or. anything like that it was just like. we're n and0 we're gonna we're going to. go in there we're going to beat him so. going there was tough fight we ended up. uh losing a decision but it was a fight. of the night so and it was like like I. said I'm terrible loser so I putting my. head down I'm like upset like I don't. want to talk to nobody and then my coach. is telling me like bro like the crowd's. going nuts you got to feel the energy. look at the crowd Embrace still embrace. the moment even though you lost and like.

I had so many fighters come up to me. that day and it was. like it was crazy because it was like. Max Hollow hey respect bro Diego Sanchez. hey you're a beast you're a monster and. these are guys like I looked up to and. like love to watch fight but like I. didn't care at all just because I lost. so like but thinking back to those I. wish I would have like been a better. loser and at that time because we won. the $50,000 bonus too and I was like I. don't care man and me and Joe ban are. like at the hospital he's like we won. the bonus and I'm like just crying get. away from me dude yeah it's easy for him. to say the W yeah yeah so what kind of.

timeline are you on right now like does. the UFC give you any indication of when. they would schedule a fight for you or. is a lot of it dependent upon the March. 18th title. fight that was the thing I was trying to. get on the March 18th card with them and. I was trying to be on the same card with. them and whether it was is that still. possible it just depends on who they. give me yeah it's like for me I'm still. training no matter what so today like. the 17th yeah the 17th so I think it' be.

like eight weeks or something like that. yeah so right yeah it's the 18th so you. got you got two months yeah yeah so. it'll just be like you're hearing things. of Hamza going up to 185 yeah and you're. trying to figure out what's happening to. them then you're like well where's Kobe. at so I'm talking to my manager cuz like. I said he manages me he manages Gilbert. he manages Usman so he's managing three. of the top five guys up there so I'm. like you have to have an idea of who. they're going to give me and he's like. we just have to wait we have to wait and. see who they're offering who's ready at.

the time and I'm like well give me masal. Ma's on a three fight loser streak it. doesn't make sense and I'm like but he. has the biggest name he has the biggest. name and he's a guy that's calling for. the title fight and the champion saying. his name yeah so if the champion saying. his name it tells me that that's the. name I have to beat to tell you that no. you're not getting that fight because I. can see Leon beating Usman if he beats. him this time saying well I defended my. belt once now I get to call my shot and. I want to fight MF all because he three. piece and sted me yeah and you're like.

you're like it don't make sense but UFC. money makes sense it money makes sense. and that's that is a big money fight and. there's a narrative there I could see. them H making that fight I could you. know it's uh it's such a talent stack. division man that division is so filled. with talent but it's it's rough too for. yourself because when Leon Edward was. where the place I'm at right now where. he was on aight winning streak and the. world was begging for him to get title. fight and I'm like I found way better. guys than Le Edwards i' have four top 10. wins Leon Edwards hasn't been one top 10.

guy in the division besides Usman and. Kobe cson has no top 10 wins in the. division besides mazal who's who beat on. a three- fight losing streak so how hard. was it for you to the Leon Edwards fight. get stop because of an eye poke and then. they don't give it back to they don't. run it back and Leon is saying I was. winning that fight we're moving on to. the next I was I was so bitter I was. salty I was H like I wanted to snap so. bad cuz like in the cage a I'm so sorry. bro and it's like I didn't commit the. foul he committed the foul I didn't do.

nothing I took the fight he was rewarded. for a foul and then now he's the champ. yeah and crazy I'm looking at it. like it doesn't make any like make it. make sense to me because I'm like I. waited this long to get this this moment. I stepped up nobody stepped up fight um. fight up lean Edwards short notice com. pulled out they needed somebody and I. was like all right I'll do it so that. first round happens I pokeing the whole. Road oh well you were losing anyway and. I was like bro there's still four more. rounds I'm a guy that my cardio is my. weapon I love to to fight I love to.

grind it out and it was still Leon. Edwards he was out for two years before. that so you're still trying to figure. out which Leon Edward is going to come. so it's a reading out period in that. first round and I tell people it's not a. 108 round it was a 10 n round in that. first round so what you saying oh he. killed you I'm like and the Joe B fight. I got dropped three times in the first. round and the third round I almost. finished him so I'm not a guy that loses. the first round and starts puts my head. down and I need my coach to give me a. motivational speech like Leon Edwards no. I'm gonna stay motivated the whole time.

to the end to the final bell rings I. don't need you to wake me up like I'm. not put my head down you're in that. position where they start to give you. these young contenders like they did. with Shawn Brady you know like that they. have these guys that are like these up. incoming guys and the this is kind of a. Crossroads fight if you could turn back. this guy you'll show you are at the top. of the food chain right now and you did. and there's a few of those other guys. out there right now that are trying to. build a name up like shavkat. rockov those kind of guys where they're. trying to like and you could see them.

conceivably matching you up with someone. like him yeah and that's the thing when. I took the Sha Brady fight it was like. fighting downwards and he had everything. to gain because he was undefeated he. beats me well dang look where he is now. Sean Brady could be fighting for the. title next but for me it was like if I. beat him I'm moving sideways I'm not. like I didn't really gain much from it. it was I think you did though I think. you opened up a lot of people's eyes. yeah yeah because everybody was really. look I mean he had got the highest V2. Max they ever scored at the UFC. performance Institute it was like a big.

deal like he was one of those guys that. people looked at him and go man this. dude's Elite you know he won a grappling. match against Craig Jones like he's. Elite everybody was looking at him like. this guy might be a f future Champion. but you put it on him man yeah but then. now it's oh well John Brady was getting. threats that somebody was going to bury. him in the desert if he beat bah. Muhammad yeah that's what he came out. after the fight and say it yeah and I. was like what is that real I'm like. people are kind of up with excuses for. everything listen you beat that dude's. ass yeah save all that [ __ ] not he was.

trying to beat your ass and you beat his. ass that's just how it is I mean if. somebody really was threatening him. that's [ __ ]. up a fan threatened to kill him and bury. him in the desert if he won a recent. fight yeah but you know I would say to. him stop reading so media cuz that. probably is a 13-year-old kid in his. mom's [ __ ] basement somewhere you. know who [ __ ] knows who's saying that. you can get lost so deep to bury you. have you buried anybody else you know.

how to bury people shut the [ __ ]. up oh well tell his wife to get off. social media too don't you shouldn't be. reading that [ __ ] I know a guy who was. uh a heavyweight and his wife started uh. reading comments and they were they were. uh she had a public page and she started. reacting responding and so more people. started do and then she lost her [ __ ]. mind because like she was just. constantly getting so she's like every. day checking her and people are like. [ __ ] with her on her phone like hey. that's not real life put that down go.

outside chirp chirp chirp chirp see the. birds chirping and [ __ ] it's see the. grass is green that's not real life. don't be engaging with these [ __ ]. people you don't even know who they are. they're calling you fat and ugly and. saying all kinds of mean things about. you like go outside this is the stay off. your goddamn phone don't be reading. comments that shit's mental illness yeah. my mom would like when I first go to. that article let me see that article. when I first got into the UFC my mom. would uh read comments and say hey how. come you didn't respond to this guy and.

I'm like are you reading my comments so. they sent it to his wife right said. someone messaged her and said if I won. the fight against balah Muhammad they. would kill me and bury me in the desert. first of all if someone really was going. to kill you and bury you in the desert. they don't tell you okay Brady fought. Muhammad on October 22nd suffering. knockout defeat it's interesting he. should probably keep that to himself. these fans they're scumbags Brady says. Hey SE Sean these are idiots they're not. the fans there's so many PE you're the.

problem is human beings are used to. interacting with other human beings in a. one-on-one setting when you're dealing. with people online you're literally. opening your like how many how many. followers do Shawn Brady have on his. Instagram to be fair you said that. during an interview I don't know that he. just came out and said like well by the. way no didn't interview it well Ariel. hawani likes to get people to say things. so if you looking at Shawn Brady's uh. Instagram what does he have let's guess. I'm going to guess he has.

190,000 followers let's guess 96,000. okay so he has almost 100,000 followers. how many of those people are. douchebags yeah a 100 let's be real. conservative you have a hundred idiots. that are threatening you and sending you. pictures of their dick and like don't. read that stuff man yeah people got to. stop reading that stuff I know so many. people that like start reading comments. and arguing back and forth I know. rappers that do it comedians that do it.

like stop doing that man Kevin Durant. had like a fake cold profile was like. arguing with people back and forth and I. was like what are you really yeah a fake. profile yeah and I was like is this guy. serious like you're an NBA star at the. top of the thing oh my God ego it's just. ego it's so bad for you too it's bad for. your Psych and you can get lost in it's. so easy like I have like a a don't list. that I I make when I have when it's. fight week I feel like don't answer the. phone from somebody who doesn't uh who. haven't called you in the last month. don't don't read comments don't uh.

respond to Texas don't uh like don't. overthink the fight like I just have. like a long list of stuff that I say. don't and I just like read every single. time uh that it's fight because you get. like you said you get lost into it and. one of those things could change your. whole mood your whole energy for the. whole day it really can man you get the. wrong it's like someone someone I forget. who said this but they were talking. about how um you have to think of diet. not just in the food you consume but.

also in the things you consume with your. mind yeah and if you're like consuming. people saying they're going to bury you. in the desert and those [ __ ] idiots. [ __ ] telling you you're a loser and. you're fat and you're going to get. killed like why you reading that like. it's like eating junk food like why are. you eating Pringles you're supposed to. be eating healthy food it's it's sad. honestly cuz my uh my girl her her dad's. uh daughter is like played softball. college and she was like telling me that. you know she just got signed to Auburn. and she's like uh I get how do how do. you deal with trolls I said softball.

players get trolls like yeah through. games like people are like tweet out. like the worst things to me and I was. like oh dude I never even thought about. it and it's like girl softball and it. like makes so when you have kids you go. to games and when you go to games you. see how some parents like take it so. goddamn seriously like I cheer for my. kidss and I'm happy when they do well. and I always like try to cheer them up. if it didn't go well and try to give. them like as many tips about keeping. your head up and try to think straight. but some [ __ ] parents man I saw this.

one dad who is telling his daughter like. you keep missing the ball like don't. miss the ball when that ball comes your. way make sure you catch that ball it's. like hey dummy that's not going to help. first of all you're going to put it in. her head don't drop the ball instead of. saying you're so good catching the ball. I love when you go out there and you put. on a show and you it all comes together. smooth I'm so proud of you just do your. best and everything's going to be fine. instead of that he's like don't drop. that ball whatever you do don't now.

you're now in her head is dropping the. ball yeah You Don't Know Jack [ __ ] about. sports you [ __ ] idiot you're you're. you're coaching your kid you're really. poisoning them you're poisoning their. head with bad idea if they get if they. do well it's they're doing well in spite. of you yeah they're not doing well. because of you so many of those dads man. they just living through their kids it's. oh it's the worst awful yeah and like. some of those kids don't even want to. play the sport like they hate it so much. and it's like they despise it and you. look at them and you're like you're at.

the top of the world and you you're. you're going to be make it to the NBA. and like I don't even like it like I. don't want to be here right now yeah. it's awful it's awful but that kind of. pressure that people put on their kids. is like so counterintuitive they don't. understand so bad for them it's bad for. the. kid well listen balal uh it's been fun. talking to you man and uh I appreciate. you I'm a big fan I'm always always. excited watching your fight and I'm I'm. proud that you're in the top of the heat. man I'm excited for you I know that. you're you're in a great spot right now.

it's like you you're right there man. there's like this group of people at the. very top of the list at 170 lbs and. you're right there I can't wait to watch. you fight again man appreciate that man. seriously that means a lot thank you for. having me my pleasure um tell everybody. your Instagram uh social media so they. can troll. you heyy you guys can follow me bully. 170 on Instagram uh Twitter any of those. uh I tried to do a Tik Tok I couldn't do. it yeah good for you it's Chinese. spyware all right brother thank you very. much bye everybody.

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