Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - February 6, 2016

Are they hemp? No. No. They're like. stretchy. They're like half light and. half cotton. They're They're the best. jeans I've ever worn. I don't want to. get paid for them. The guy just says, "We live. We live." Ladies and. [ __ ] gentlemen, this is a fight. companion podcast. What that means is. we're watching the fights. This was. supposed to be the heavyweight title. fight and I was supposed to be in Vegas. It was supposed to be Fabricio Verdum. versus Cain Velasquez, but Kane. Velasquez got hurt. Uh, and he pulled. out of the fight. And then Steep Mioic. replaced him. And then Verdoom said, "Well, I'm hurt, too. [ __ ] this." And he.

pulled out cuz I guess he had a couple. of injuries. Smart move, I guess, if. you're injured. You know, he figured, "Fuck it. I'm just going to fight Kane. no matter what, I guess." And then when. um when he found out it was Mio Chick, he's like, "Listen, I'm hurt. [ __ ]. this." Smart move. Yeah. Because you. explain what this is before. This this. is a fight companion podcast. It's not a. regular podcast. So, we're watching the. fights, but honestly, it's almost never. us watching the fights. So, if you're. listening to this right now, you're.

like, I don't give a [ __ ] about fights. Most of the time, we don't. either. Eddie Bravo's here. My brother. Eddie Bravo. Yo yo yo. The greatest that. ever did it. What? Holla. Brian Ken. My. dog. One of my favorite human beings on. the planet. As well as my brother. Brendan Shab. also one of my favorite. humans on the planet. So these are my. favorite podcast more than anything. I. look forward to these [ __ ] things. The best. They're so much fun. The best. It's like we get to hang out and be. ourselves. We get to [ __ ] around. Just.

talk a couple dudes. Oh, just talking. [ __ ] We get to bro out. We're just. broing out, guys. Bro out for 3 hours. Bro out. unapologetically. Have some fun. Watch. some fights. Talk about what we eat. Yeah. Brian is going to try on his. barbell jeans. I got him some flexy. jeans. It's funny how guys don't change. My. son, I went hiking with him and all he. was talking about for two days is I want. you to teach me how to chop down a tree. and he's obsessed. And I'm like, "All. right." He goes, "But I need to chop a. tree down." And constantly we go and we.

go to quote unquote chop a tree down. And I get him a a hatchet. He hasn't put. that hatchet down. You give that kid any. kind of a weapon. My daughter looks at. the hatchet like, "What can Yeah, maybe. I can decorate it." She wanted to know. She wanted to put sparkles on the. handle. And my son was like, "What?" You. know what's interesting is that gay men. can go one of two ways. You can they can. go towards like girly type stuff or they. can go just as manly. You're talking about the beers then? Well, there's just not even beers. It's. like two different styles of gay men.

Like I have a gay couple that lives on. my street. The nicest [ __ ] dudes. They're so nice. And one of them is the. man. He's into trucks and and and. [ __ ] Yeah. He makes all the cash. You. can break it down to one. one. We talk trucks, man. Yeah, you can. break it down. One guy one one [ __ ]. guys and the other doesn't. Well, I. don't know. I don't know how that works. I don't get personal with them. They're. just the coolest [ __ ]. I guess the best neighbors. I know a.

couple like that and I get personal with. them. But then there's Twink, right? Then there's like the Twinks who are. they're they're super girly. Then why. would you want to just be with a girl? You know what I'm saying? Or like the. lesbians. Why? Well, how come some dudes. like girls with big asses? Some some. girls dudes like girls are really. skinny. Hey, everyone likes a girl with. a big ass. No, man. Like, there's some. guys that are into like really skinny. girls. Like really skinny, like model. type girls with no asses. None of my friends. It's weird. It's all. over the map. It's all over the map. It's a good way to put it. It's all over. the map. He's into trucks. I don't know.

why, but it's true. We talk [ __ ]. suspensions and [ __ ] My my All right, Joe. I'll see you later. Go sucks dick. His husband is actually into trucks, too. So, it's weird. But the point being. is like they're very different. personalities that are gay. Like I know. gay dudes that don't seem even a little. gay. Yeah. And then, you know, they had. to eventually come out and, you know, explain the whole thing. Like, uh, do. you know, um, like there's like the. [ __ ] his name? Like, let me think of. like a good example. Well, there's just.

there's a lot of them. There's a lot. No. need to name him. My buddy my buddy. Keith is is he's the man in the. relationship. He wrestled uh you know. and he in college made makes millions of. dollars and he was with a bunch of. straight guys. We're all eating and. stuff hanging out. Uh Frank was there. and and he goes um he was just said it. so matter of fact that he goes I mean I. think the only difference between me and. you guys is I suck [ __ ] you know and he. kept. [ __ ] he's got a really deep voice. too. The difference is I'm not going to. get [ __ ] you know, but I mean I'll.

[ __ ] him, you know. That's hilarious. Some only [ __ ] right? Some will only. [ __ ] it. My buddy is Some will only. [ __ ] Some will Some don't give. [ __ ] right? Yep. Some don't get. [ __ ] Some only give [ __ ] on the. gay uh singles sites. I bet they have to. say that. I bet there's a name for that. Like a dude who doesn't suck dick. He's. got to have a name. There's got to be. like a code word. Oh, he's uh he's uh. think of a name. Yeah, I had the. weirdest conversation with a gay couple. once after a show I did in Connecticut. way back in the day, man. I don't even.

remember what bit it was they were upset. about, but they came up to me after the. show and they were saying that they just. just to let you know most gay guys don't. [ __ ] each other in the ass like we're. married. We're gay or they're a couple. I don't know if they it was legal to be. married back then cuz you're talking. about like 91 92 something like that. And uh he was talking about we just blow. each other and I was like. okay relationship. I don't know where to. go. He used to be ass all the time. He. was talking to me about and then after a. while I would I would have answered I.

would have said I would have said I. don't believe you but No, no, no. He was. he was being honest. He's like we're not. into it. And he's like it seems like the. kind of humor like that kind of gay. humor like [ __ ] the ass humor is like. it goes over really big out here in. Connecticut like but we mostly we hang. out in the city. like he was one of. those guys that was like big on telling. you that I'm I'm very sophisticated. I'm. always in the city and I don't even take. it in the ass. I'm just I'm just getting. my dick sucked by guys. It was the. strangest [ __ ] conversation. Yeah, I. bet there's guys like that that that uh.

I point to him was was like, but you. know, guys do get [ __ ] in the ass. Yeah. Right. When I'm talking about. someone [ __ ] someone in the ass, it's. not like I'm making things up. No. No. I. was under. theception. They all did that. No, it. depends. No, they don't. They definitely. don't. That'd be the exception though, right Joe? The first time. I don't know. At least on their birthday. Every now. and then on the birthday, boom. You got. to give up that son. I'm not into uh. surveys. Once in a while when when. they're drunk guys when they're drunk. when they complain. I bet that's the. number one complaint. That's why they.

they break up. When that when they stop. [ __ ] the ass and it's just hand jobs. that, you know, it's over. Get the [ __ ]. out. Get the [ __ ] out. This is uh this. is the kind of fight Sean Mike Pile's. about to fight Sean Spencer. This is the. kind of fight that makes me wish that. TRT was legal cuz Pile's so [ __ ]. smart and crafty. Exactly. He's so. [ __ ] smart and crafty. I wish they. could get that dude on TRT. You know. what I'm saying? He 100% needs it. Well, of course you definitely need it when. you fight for so long. 40 and think how. long he's been fighting. He's been.

fighting for a long time. He's taken. some some hard shots. He's been KO'ed by. guys like Matt Brownough. You know, he's. been KO by Rory McDonald, a few other. guys, too. He's a tough [ __ ] smart. dude though. He's His skill level is. very high. But you know, there's a. reality. There's a goddamn difference. between a 21-year-old body, a natural. one, and a natural 40-year-old body. There just is. I agree. His fight IQ is. very the highest. Very high. He's a. savage man. About 10 years ago, we did a.

movie together. We're extras in a movie. called uh the assassination of a high. school principal. We play like I'm 35. years old and I'm playing a fraternity. guy in button diapers. It was terrible. It was terrible. So, but we're both in it and I that guy is. such a savage. I've never seen anybody. We went to a club that night afterwards. He went into a club, grabbed a girl like. a savage. Just took her. Grabbed that. [ __ ] by the ponytail. We went back to. the hotel and he handled business. I. never seen Damn. We We don't know what.

his status was at We don't know what. happened. years ago. It was between 10. and 20 years ago. He could have been 100. years ago. Yeah. Mike Pile. That's one thing I remember. about Mike is he is a savage. I've never. seen anybody get down like that. Let's. be real careful with those kind of. details. Those can be brought up. Yeah, that's true. That's assault, brother. Yeah. You can't be doing that. Well, he's uh Yeah, you can't even say you do. that anymore. It used to be that that. was like an old movie trick. Dude, you. you know who's the biggest savage as far.

as getting chicks I've ever seen? And. you would never guess when I gave you. 100 tries. Me and him were in Toronto. Give you 100 tries. Jake Shields. Oh, I. would imagine. With with just Asians. though, he's a handsome guy. Just Asian. girls. Dudeome. You would have thought. he was Tom Cruz up in that [ __ ] Jake. Shield's a very handsome guy. I mean, he's cool, but he was like, hey, I need. you to be my wingman and help me out. here. I was like, me? What do you mean. you say he's cool? Like, you don't think. that's a good looking guy? He's not Luke. Rockold. Oh, come on. I wouldn't say. he's that handsome there. I said, no, he's not as handsome, but Luke Rockold's. ridiculous. He's a time piece. He's a.

straight Alan Juban level. That's for. sure. Alan Juban's a straight model. He's a legit talk about those guys. Well, tell you know the story about Alan. Juban had a big photo shoot in New York. City like two weeks before his fight. So. he had to cut weight twice. He cuts. weight for his photo shoots. He gets. shredded for his photo shoots. I talked. to Kenny Johnson about his wrestling. coach. Versace, right? Yeah. He's got a. big [ __ ] campaign, man. He's going to. make bank. He's a beautiful person. Not. just the way he looks, the most.

beautiful in UFC history. Great guy. His. heart, he's the sweetest guy. A young. Don Fry. He's such a nice guy like to. train with and everything, too. He's so. polite. He's just a great guy. Like. Allan Jaban is the salt of the earth. I. agree. But doesn't get any better. looking. I Good luck being that [ __ ]. Hey, you know what? Good luck. Allan's a. 10. Jake Shields is an eight. A strong. eight. He's a strong eight. Ken, you. have me on here. I would say Jake. I'd. say Jake's a four. Oh, come on. Come on. I'd say I'd say he's a six. He's a six.

What are you? What are you? Honestly, just take yourself out. I'll give you a. hit of weed. I want you to be real. I. want you to be real about this. What are. you? What are you? I would say I'm a. five. I'm [ __ ] You're very critical. Your. ears do help though. Girls like [ __ ]. up ears. Girls like the They like a guy. who's been through some danger. They. don't like a guy who's terrified of. danger. It's a natural instinctive. reaction. It's to protect your genetics. A guy who has never experienced danger. may very well fall apart in the face of.

danger. So, a guy who does crazy [ __ ]. like does flips and bikes, why do you. think they do that? They do that cuz it. attracts females. Because females are. attracted to a guy who's very risky. A. guy who takes chances and does nutty. [ __ ] because those guys can survive. pressure. That makes sense. I'm just. saying with with all the UFC fighters, I'll give myself a five cuz we're all, you know, we're all not scared of I give. you a solid eight. How about that? Maybe a solid eight, maybe eight and a. half. But you're better. You You're a. notch better than Jake Shields cuz. you're way bigger than him. Like I see.

girls look at you. It's hilarious. They. look at you and their little ovaries go. ding. Hungry eyes. Oh. [ __ ] Everything we've done, not just. fighter in the kid fans. My a friend of. mine never even met Shaw before. I was. like, "Who's your friend?" You could. tell her little loins were tinged. up. Bartender at the comedy store. Bartender com. Yeah. Let's listen. details right now. Jesus [ __ ] this guy. That's also who we're talking about. Oh. my god. There's only one you didn't see. I was already talking about her. I'm.

just saying general. [ __ ] The. waitress at the uh the waitress at the. high. One of the waitresses at the. conversation. How about nothing? I would. say from anywhere. A weak nine. What's a. 10? Join. He's a Versace. He's an 11. He's an 11. Well, you're being kind. Sh's an eight. Good looking eight. Yeah. But he's got personality. Personality. means more than two points. Yes, it. does. Like an eight. Look at that. Alan. Joan. Oh my god. Good lord. That's not. even a real person. Tell me he's short. at least. Tell me he's 5'4. He's not 6.

feet tall. 6 feet. God. You know, he. just did a campaign for Equinox. I'll. tell. you Joe Ban hater. You [ __ ] hate. people cuz he's a one of the best people. I've ever met. I agree. Just a great. great dude. He's a [ __ ] great guy. Can't say anything bad about him. If I. look like that, I'd wake up every. morning and be like this going to be a. good day. I'm telling you though, I mean. he's not a pretty boy. I mean, this. [ __ ] has had some serious. fights. Yep. And he he bites down on. that mouthpiece and scraps. He got. knocked down. fight, man. Tuminov is a [ __ ].

dude. [ __ ] I didn't like that. match up. His efficiency and his was a. tough fight for anybody. Especially. tough fight when you cut weak. He cut. weak two weeks. No, he got knocked out. in the first round. No, no, no. I'm I'm. saying not the result. I'm saying on. paper that's a tough fight to pick. I. would I I wouldn't have taken it if I if. I was in if I'm Joan and I just I. wouldn't have taken it. I wouldn't have. taken it because I do I don't think it's. not that I don't think he can beat that. guy. I just think right now Tuminov's. striking is so smooth and efficient and.

heavy down the heavy straight down. It's. also it's it's also very fluid. Like he. can go from throwing a jab to throwing a. lead uppercut and a straight right hand. and every one of them is perfect and. they count. They count. They're accurate. and the mechanics behind them are. totally correct. Like there's guys that. probably hit harder like Tyron Woodley. probably hits harder than anybody. Tyron. literally like one shot for one shot. Like when when he KO Jay Heron, I was.

like Jesus Christ. He's a exploder, dude. If he catches you perfectly on. that explosion, he's going to put you. away. And it's not saying that like his. efficiency is bad. His efficiency is way. better even now because he's training. with Duke Rufus, but Tuminov doesn't. have that oneshot power that Woodley. has, but his efficiency is perfect. Everything is perfect. Like you see a. guy that hits hard, one of the things. you see almost invariably is their their. body positioning is always perfect. Like.

when when a guy's throwing like a a. ridiculous punch, you'll see the bend in. the legs. You'll see the turn in the. body. You know, when a guy's like a. serious power striker with Tumov, everything's in place. It's all like the. knee is in the right spot. When the hook. when he's throwing the hook, his foot's. in the right spot. His weight's in the. right spot. There's no like it's no. [ __ ] Did he come out of the Russian. amateur boxing thing? He's a master of. sports in boxing. And he can [ __ ]. kick, too, man. He can kick. They have. an amazing amateur program. Yeah. It's. He's unexpectedly dangerous with his.

kicks. But he lost his last fight, right? No, he didn't. No. No. He beat uh. Loren Larkin. Oh, that's right. But it. wasn't a great It wasn't a great a very. good fight. I love so close cuz they. were so dangerous. Did we do a fight. competing for that? No, I don't think. so. This is the one where Loren Lark was. throwing those wheel kicks to the thigh. That's right. And [ __ ] up his thigh. [ __ ] up his leg. [ __ ] up his leg. But Tuminov hung in there to the end and. super close fight. I honestly thought. that Larkin pulled it off. But I wasn't. upset at the decision. It was so close.

It was so weird. It was so weird. Those. those low wheel kicks. He does all kinds. of weird stuff. Lin is a bad. [ __ ] dude. He's one of the dark. horses in that division. His takedown. defense, I'm tell I haven't seen. anything like in a long time. He came up. to rain to train with Munoz, Pat. Cummins, and myself. And it was. wrestling day. I was like, "Oh, we're. just going to take this fool down.". Well, I thought going into that fight. really Larkin was going to have the. kicking advantage and Tumov was going to. have the striking advantage and that's. how it turned out. But god damn, it was. a close ass fight. Lor Larkin actually. has braces and during the fight his.

[ __ ] braces were sticking into his. mouth. Oh my god. Like something went. wrong with his braces. He was like. trying to fix it in between rounds. How. the [ __ ] can you fight with braces? He. shouldn't be fighting with braces. But. isn't there Invisalign there? Very very. good looking man. He has the Frank. Shamrock braces. I need some the silver. mouth. I don't know. I don't know. I. didn't see it until uh they're talking. about it in between rounds in the. corner. I still feel bad about myself. after seeing Alon Joy. I wonder if. Bellator is going to let Benson. Henderson fight with a toothpick in his. mouth. They're going to let him do.

whatever the [ __ ] he wants. He's going. to he [ __ ] Oh man. Oh, he's covered in. head really bad. Oh, he's Come on, pile. Don't get too crazy. Oh, it's 301 right. now. three, 259, 258, 257. Sink that. [ __ ] up. Mike Pile versus Sean Spencer. Is that who's fighting? Is that the uh. got rocked? Spencer got rocked, man. Is. it Is that his name? We shouldn't say. that's his name. Yeah. Oh [ __ ] Um Yeah,

Ben Henderson's fighting for already for. the title shot, right? And he fighting. Brooks. Do you know that's like secretly. my biggest fear? Is he going to fight. for the title right away? By the way, it's next month. My biggest fear is. forgetting what someone's name is in the. middle of a fight while calling the. fight. Thank God. Good thing you don't. have headron. How you doing? Good thing, dog. Well, I also have Alpha Brain and. notes. You got some Alpha Brain on you. right now? For real. I could use some of. that right now. Um, where's the jug? There should be a jug of it here. Oh, here it is. These are good fights. tonight, man. The best stuff is the the.

new stuff we have is the Instance. The. [ __ ] I take four. The instant stuff is. awesome. I don't have any here, dude. I. had Kyle Kingsbury on the other day. He's the best. Great guy. Oh my god. What a sweetheart. So [ __ ] smart, too. His wife is a smoke show 3000, too. She used to be a UFC ring card. Yes, sir. He's very cool chick, too. Like. real. The whole family just good people. Yeah, they're they're salt of the earth. What' you call her? So cool. Salt of the. earth. Damn, man. I said smoke show. Oh, smoke show. Salt of their smoke show.

Um, mine's more old school. Yours is probably better. Yeah, she's. just really sweet person, too. It's cool. seeing them parents, too. It's wild. The. They have two or one? No. One. One. little boy. God, he's so [ __ ] cute. Didn't he just start smoking weed like. recently, right? And it kind of like uh. I don't think so. No. No. He does. everything, man. He's big in Iawaska. I. thought I thought this was like a [ __ ]. I was under the impression that just. started. What do you mean? Like or maybe. it's the week before he did a bunch of. uh Iawaska and then fought Pat. Oh yeah,

I got Molly Watt by Pat. He's a good. fighter. Pat is a [ __ ] I. cornered Pat during that fight. Pat. Cummins is a [ __ ] Look how. smart Mike Pile is. Like, look how. efficient and smooth, you know? He sees. those shots, he slips them like and he's. in real good shape. I mean, don't get me. wrong, but there's just a reality about. what a 40-year-old body can do as far as. the way he pushes himself. Like that was. whatever. Bernard Hopkins back, you. know, like Bernard Hopkins just couldn't. keep a pace with a guy like Sergey. Kovalev. Like he had to go into like a.

defensive mode against him. It was tough. to watch, but it was because he was 49. years old. If he fought Kovalev when he. was 35, holy [ __ ] That would have been. an amazing [ __ ] fight. Amazing. Did. you see Kovalev's last fight? Dude, what. the [ __ ] He's a murderer. Him and him. and Andre Ward. That's the fight. He. killed a guy in the ring. Yeah, he did. And it didn't killed a guy. It didn't. affect him the way it affects most. people. It's very interesting. Like. coldarted Russian. Yeah. It didn't take. anything off of his desire to compete. Does not give a [ __ ] He That's uh.

that's one thing that happens to. fighters sometimes. And man, they're. it's they're rarely the same after. someone died. Boom. Mancini that. happened. He was never really the same. Neil Griffith, they say that that uh did. you know Emil Griffiths they say was gay. and that Benny Pretty who was fighting. was talking a lot of [ __ ] about him. being gay and was saying a lot of like. gay slurs and Emil Griffith beat the. [ __ ] out of that dude. And then he died. beat him to death. He beat him to death. Damn, son. Yeah. I don't remember what round it was. If I.

if I had to guess, I want to say it was. like the 14th round. There's there's a. documentary on Boom Boom saying how when. that guy died, he was never the same. Oh. yeah, of course. Never. Most most he. didn't want to fight that. And Bon I. think the guy's name is Bon Kimmoon or. something like that. Dukim. Dukim. That's who it was. Bonim. Well, he was. you were close. Bonkin is the uh is. works as the is I think is the. commissioner for the UN or something. Anyway, but um he was um his dad was his. uh his dad was his uh coach. Bumu. Uh. no. Uh Dukim. Yeah. Oh, Jesus Christ.

Well, that was another extreme. dehydration fight. Extremely dehydrated. to get down to 135. That [ __ ] was on. national TV if you remember. They also. had weigh-ins the day of the fights. It's a terrible idea. They did. Somebody. did something I read and I don't know if. it's true, but they said that a number. of a number of people who who've died in. the ring had dads for their coach. You. know, they'll push themselves. There's. not a lot, but apparently that's what it's very. common for guys to push themselves. They. get really hurt because their dad's in. in the corner. Well, Wonder Boy.

Thompson's trained by his dad, isn't he? Yep. Yeah, that's right. And so is Sage. Sage Northcut trained by his ga dad. Um. there's been quite a few Darren. Crookshank trained by his dad. You think. uh Sage is uh all the all the flak he's. getting on uh the internet is just What. do you think about that? No, listen. I. think like if you ask any fighter, hey, if Dane offered you 40 and 40, you going. to take it at 19? [ __ ] yes. It's not his. fault this whole hype machine. Well, you. know what, man? It's a It was a good.

fight for him to experience, to learn, and he needs to learn some, you know, some ground defense and he needs to. learn some jiu-jitsu, but that's to be. expected. He's only [ __ ] 19 years. old. People get caught in the gym all. the time, guys that are good at. jiu-jitsu. I get caught. I think it was. the best thing to happen. The sky's the. limit though, as far as potential at 19. years of age, he seems to have a very. good attitude. He's a smart kid. Like, athletically, he's ridiculous. [ __ ]. if you see those fl front front flips he. can do crazy off one off a toe. Off one. toe. And the way he does it, it looks. like it looks fake. It looks like he's.

on a stick. You're spinning him like one. of those uh foosball tables. He said he. was on antibiotics, too, in that fight. cuz he looked like [ __ ] I mean, he he. we had strep. That was one of the. reasons why apparently he tapped so. quickly cuz like when it was clamping. down on his throat, he was already. swollen. His throat was already [ __ ]. up. He had strep. He's going to be fine. He gets a lot of hate. He gets a lot of. hate. Of course he does. It's it's tough. like uh like you see Tony Ferguson made. a vid video like I tapped out like a. [ __ ] It's tough if you're a guy like. Tony Ferguson who's grinding, right? He.

doesn't get nowhere near as much. love. You know Tony Ferguson is in the. PR business as well as in the fight. business. That's the reality in the post. McGregor era. You're in the PR business, man. Look what Conor McGregor did. He's. a Mike Pile got a good guillotine. He's. got Look at him scooting in here. Look. at him scooting in here. Watch that. right butterfly. He will mount. He will. [ __ ] flip over. He missed it. Missed the mount. It was. smart to let him relax. Oh yeah, he's a. bad [ __ ] Mike.

Pile He fought Rampage Jackson like in. 2000. First pro fight. That was his. first pro fight was Rampage Jackson in. Tennessee. Rampage is way bigger than he. is. Yep. Yep. I'm telling you, Mike. Pile. And that was one of the reasons. that Matt Brown was like so respectful. about him after the fight. He's like, people don't know how good Mike Pile is. I guess in the training room too, he's. even better. I guess he's a. [ __ ] That's what I hear. They. say in the training room, he's like. unstoppable. I'm telling you, TRT is. designed for dudes like this. Can't do. it anymore, son. And now they have.

testing for HGH. They have testing for. HGS. Yes, they have a testing for HGH. that gets you from 21 days out. What? Now you're really [ __ ] It used to be. like a day. Used to be like 24 hours. Can't do [ __ ] anymore. You can't do [ __ ]. anymore. I'll come up with something. Gene doping. Well, I told you Nitzky. said that they've already at least. theoretically have testosterone that's. derived from animals instead of wild. yams. So, the carbon isotope test. doesn't work. Yeah, it looks like human. testosterone. Who just Oh, dirty bird. Yeah. No [ __ ] Your name's the dirty.

bird. That doesn't mean anything. Yeah, but it does. Of course, the dirty bird. fight, man. Mike Pile Sean Spencer. throwing down, man. Props to Spencer for. surviving that that exchange in Vegas. hurt. Yeah, this is at the MGM. That. stadium looks empty. It's empty. I'm. sure when the main event dropped out, I'm sure a lot of people canled their. trips. Dude, I'm not mad at Verdoom. I. was going to talk about at the. beginning. It makes sense because since. he's the heavyweight champ, the way it. works out a lot of times is you get a. percentage of pay-per-views, but you.

have to hit a certain number. It's hard. to market Stipe versus Verdoom on two. weeks. He's not going to hit those. pay-per-view numbers. So, when he was. like, "Oh, I'm out." I was like, "That's. [ __ ] brilliant." But he's definitely. hurt. I'm the word that I'm hearing from. everybody is that he's [ __ ] hurt. He's he's been having some back problems. for a while now. Apparently, he was. having it on one side of his back and uh. it would like lock up, but he was. working through it and he Oh, nice. spinning elbow. Oh [ __ ]. Pile. [ __ ] Nasty knee. Oh. Oh my goodness.

Stop it. Stop it. This fight is over, man. Oh man. Sean Spencer's up. They can. stop this fight. Who's the ref? Is that. Eve Lavine? Oh, he's about to get. bullied deep down by Steve Lavine, son. Stop it, man. That's a brutal pile just. looked at him. Stop it. Stop it. He's. not defending himself. Eve Lavine let. [ __ ] Jesus Christ. He does. But you keep. That was That was not good. I agree. But. you know, if you got Eve Lavine as your. ref, you're like, "Ah, I'm about to get. [ __ ] up." Hey, he's a violent sport.

Sometimes it happens. Yeah, but we can. prevent that. You know what? He doesn't. know four or five of those shots. He's. looking at his eyes. Sometimes pressure, dude. Four or five of those shots. He's. a He's been a refer [ __ ] If he would. have the pressure is if he would have. stopped it early and everyone [ __ ] No. one gave a [ __ ] That guy was out. I. would rather have it go a little late. than a little early. No, that hurts the. sport, my man. That doesn't hurt no. [ __ ] sport. I disagree. How's that. hurting the sport? Are you kidding? We're paying for the violence. Yeah, but. a little late is unnecessary. That. wasn't that late, man. That was that. very entertaining. That might be one.

last fight on brutality is what we pay. for. Yeah, you Well, look, there's, you. know, it's real subjective, Eddie, cuz. you're right in a lot of ways, but then. again, like there's guys that survive. it, like Frankie Edgar, right? If you. stopped every fight where Frankie Edgar. was wobbled, you'd be in trouble. I. mean, he would have never beat Grey. Mater in that second fight by KO cuz he. got hurt in that first round. And a lot. of trigger happy refs would have pulled. the trigger on that fight. And there's a. shitload of fights like that. There's a. whole list of them. But this one, this. one is prolonged. This is my problem. with this. He's not hitting back and.

he's not defending himself. How's he. going to win? He's not doing anything. He's just taking shots. Stop. right. He's not moving. He was. defending shots. He's not moving. He's. not moving at all. He's just surviving. on his tough celebrity. That was not. definitive call. It wasn't on the fence. If it goes a little over the fence, it's. fine. That's why there's subjective. thinking. How experiences might have. different different points of view, but. you know, I see your argument. But we.

got to realize why are we watching this? We're watching this not for decisions. We're watching this for brutality, right? But you got to protect a guy when. highlights are all. brutal. That's not a highlight. That's a. [ __ ] beat down. That's a beautiful. highlight. Beat downs like that are. highlights. I think it's I think it's a. highlight. I think it's a highlight. It's a highlight. If you stopped it. three punches before, it's still a. highlight. I agree too. I agree too. But. it's not the worst. That was not the. worst. No, not at all. Like, you know. what was worse? You know what was worse? Luke Rockold and Chris Weidman% that was.

worse. That was a fight that should have. been stopped. When they were when he was. on top of him, I was saying, "What does. Luke Rockold have to do to get a. stoppage?" Cuz this is a this is. terrible. Like Chris Weidman has taken. damage that's. not just unnecessary, but most likely. when you take get beaten up like that, you're not going to recover. But there. have been many many fights where they. could have easily stopped it and the guy. came back to work. There's a lot of. fights like that. There's a lot of. fights like that. You got to let it go. for the fans that piss. They're paying.

65 [ __ ] dollars now. Come on. We. don't want We'd rather have a little. early a little late than a little early. is always going to win. I think Brock. Lesnar look better. Brock Lesnar looked. better versus Shane Carman than Weidman. did. Oh, 100%. There really wasn't any. damage. Like he was getting hit but. covering up, but there's no blood. But. he was he looked like he was there. Weidman was getting thumped on. Face was. literally like someone shot him with a. 22 to the face. greatest moments of. man because of that. What about that's.

why that's why hardly nobody's doing MMA. cuz of the brutality. That's why that's. why people are paying $65 for it. If it. was all decisions, no one would pay for. anything. If it was a stop regardless, that wasn't that bad. Well, okay. We. don't have to argue about it. I see. Eddie's point of view and I I'm I'm. leaning more towards your side. I think. maybe it could have stopped it because. you're just standing there taking shots. He wasn't moving. Head trauma. When a. guy's just standing there taking shots. and he's not moving, he's waiting for. the referee to stop. But he was standing.

fully erect. He wasn't. wobbling. He's just a stud. He's a stud. He's in excellent shape. But that's how. a lot of guys die. Like a lot of the. guys that have died from getting beat. up, they didn't go down. They got beaten. down. They sank into the ropes. How many. people have died in MMA? I'm not talking. about MMA. Mostly boxing. Mostly boxing. Well, you know, one of the things that. MMA has going for it is that you could. [ __ ] clinch. It's the crulest [ __ ]. ever to watch a guy like rocked in a. boxing match and the referee's like.

pulling him off and holding on to the. guy. It's like, "Oh, [ __ ] It's the only. thing that's keeping that guy alive. It's the only thing keeping him alive.". They're like, "Nope, you can't hang on.". They go, "Break up. Break it up." You're. like, "Oh, no. If you don't let go, I'm. going to disqualify you." Oh [ __ ] It's. the worst. It's really. dumb. Mike Pile. powerful Mike Pile. This is a big win for him. Congratulations to him. He's been. fighting forever, man. 40 years old. I. remember the first time I heard his. name, Ed Clay said, "There's a guy from.

Tennessee named Mike Pile. He trains at. my gym. Watch out for this guy." This. was 2001 or 2000. So long ago. He's 40. now. Crazy. Top of the head, son. Well, I think MMA. in a way has a longer lifespan. regardless of what you're taking. Even. if you're taking nothing than boxing. does because it's not as completely. dependent upon reflexes. There's so many. different skills to learn. Oh man. Yeah, that's true. This is brutal. See, that's. when he looked at the He looked at the. ref went, "Stop." He landed one more and.

stop one more and he stopped. Wanted to. make sure. Boom. Okay, we're done. He's. still on his feet. Guy wasn't doing. [ __ ] though. Sean was just taking it. because he didn't need to take that last. name for It's all right. Eddie wants. Violet. Poor baby. Rip his head off. Eddie. Eddie's that guy. Rip his head. off. Wasn't the worst, dude. I'm just. trying to be honest here. That's it. I'm. just trying. No, I I see what you're. saying, but poor baby. Jesus Christ. Hey, man. This guy just fought his heart. out. You're like, "Poor baby." Hey, that's what that's what people are.

paying $65. They know the They know the. game. I don't know, man. I They know the. game. They know it's brutal. Everybody's. well aware you're in a [ __ ] cage, man. Dudes are throwing full-blown shin. kicks to your skull. No one's trying to. stop that. But they are once hurt. So once you're. hurt, they are trying to stop that. That's the whole idea behind it. What. would you rather take? What he went. through against the fence like that with. those elbows like that and you were kind. of standing or Edson Barbosa just. throwing a straight [ __ ] a wheel kick. in your face or that switch kick to your.

to your side kick your floating rib. I'm. talking about I'm talking about the. wheel kick with the with the heel. socket. That doesn't feel good. I'd. rather take those Mike Pile elbows and. [ __ ]. Oh, definitely. Yeah, his [ __ ] wheel. kick is perfect. His switch kick and his. wheel kick are like the best I've ever. seen. The fastest, too. You know, even. his leg kicks are so goddamn fast. Everything Barbosa is probably the. fastest kicker maybe I've ever seen. Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen.

anybody kick as fast as him. Not even. close, though. I can't a lot of [ __ ]. KOs with those wheel kicks over the last. 5 years. Look at kind of common now. Do. you remember we used to talk about it. and I was like just people don't know. how to do it. I go if people know how to. do it it's horrific because if it lands. I'd never seen anybody get wheel kicked. in the head by a guy who's good and not. go out like when you get healed when a. heel hits your head you know like. sometimes you catch guys with the toes. and those guys are okay like you get. they get slapped but when a heel hits. you in the head from a guy who really.

knows how to and you got your boot on. and you got the boot on boy landed. No. no no no you got your boot on you as. opposed to like this. Exactly. Well, the. the key is it's just like throwing a. punch. The idea like when you're. throwing a punch is you don't want your. hand completely clenched up until you're. going to make impact because then it. slows the punch down. So, you're. supposed to punch and then tighten your. hand up as you're about to hit. It's. like kind of a timing thing in a lot of. ways. You want to keep everything as. loose as possible while exploding in the.

right way. It's the same thing with a. kick. When you're throwing that wheel. kick, you want everything to be almost. like ballet until like halfway there. And then halfway there, you're pulling. your leg back and you're pulling putting. pushing your foot forward and you're. sticking that heel out. But it doesn't. come until like there. It's like as. you're in the middle of the spin, once. you get like there, that's when. everything hardens up and boom, and then. you come across with the heel. That's. what Barbosa does. No MMA fighters were. working on that [ __ ] in the in the late.

90s, early 2000. Used to make fun of me. Yeah, nobody was working on that. Everyone is now though, dude. People. used to make fun of me when I brought it. up. I would say, you know, like once. people learn how to really throw. spinning back kicks to the body, like. it's like getting hit by a car. It was. more really when people when the people. that already know how to do it learn how. to wrestle and do jiu-jitsu so they're. not afraid to throw it cuz everybody. there was karate guys and taekwondo guys. in those times, but they were told by. their MMA coach, don't [ __ ] throw. that [ __ ] cuz these these guys going to. take you down and choke you out. So they. were limited. They're like, "Okay, we're.

going to keep it, you know, nice and. simple, and we're not going to do these. spin kicks that we know how to do cuz we. suck on the ground." But once like. Steven Thompson or or Wonder Boy, he landed two on Jake Ellenburg, [ __ ] after Ellenburgger said. that it was a waste of time to throw. those things. He's like, I'm not worried. about his spinning technique. Waste of. time. That's what he said. He's like, it. was a waste of energy in in the in the. preview. Did he really? Yeah, in the. preview he said that. Oh no. Wonder Boy.

moves like a [ __ ] snake. That's the. That's the future right there. Strike. like that. Like Conor McGregor, like. Diego Brandal, those guys that just. throw everything. That's a That's. aggressive. He's He throws a lot of [ __ ]. He's a great striker, isn't he? Not. compared to those two. Not to those. He. throws a lot of spinning [ __ ] He throw. He throws some wild [ __ ] He's like me. compared to Joan in the League. Did you. ever throw spinning [ __ ] It's far off. Did you ever throw spinning [ __ ] in the. UFC? Never. Never. Ever. Why? You're You're super.

athletic. No one really taught me. I. never had a I never had a a kickboxing. coach or a taekwondo coach. No one ever. said you should every now and then it's. good to have a [ __ ] a game over a. game over uh weapon right there. That's. the wheel kick, man. It's No one ever. told that. A lot of fighters though. don't throw. Mo most I would say not 80%. still don't throw them, right? At least. 80. So a lot of them can. That's a. longterm project. You got to spend a lot. of time on that [ __ ] And it's not. exactly if if you're putting it in you. know what priorities spinning wheel kick.

it's probably at number 30. It's a. longterm project unless it's your [ __ ]. That's why like it helps if you have a. martial arts background to start with. when you're a kid. You learn that [ __ ]. first. It becomes normal. Like if you. see little four-year-olds throwing. sidekicks and then wheel kicks, it's. hilarious and it's adorable because. their legs are they're so used to. throwing their legs, you know? like they. throw their legs up in the air and it's. normal and then as they get older and. their legs get heavy their body's used. to the. dynamic. dude Hhabib Nurmagamed off and Tony.

Ferguson that's Haggler Hearns and [ __ ]. thank god Tonyy's going to fight Johnson. again I was like what the [ __ ] is this. let's just settle the [ __ ] down there. what are the odds that that fight is. really going to take place zero to yeah. not's hurt all the time he's. unfortunately he's super talented but. he's hurt all the You think he's going. to get hurt again? Easily could get hurt. again. Easily. You know what? More. likely to get hurt than not, I'd say. Yeah. Which sucks. Yeah. Look, people. get hurt. You think there's a 50% chance.

of him getting hurt or 80%. That's a. 60%. That's a lot. That's a Fox card. apparently. That's a lot. On my. calendar, at least that's a Fox card. I. don't know if that's going to be an FS1. or a Fox card. I don't think it's a I. don't think it's a AKA thing. How these. guys are getting hurt. I think uh Khabib. and Kane, they just have so much. experience with wrestling and doing. combat sports. They're just getting up. there, man. They're trying to train like. regular dudes and they're getting hurt. But people are like aka Habib's young.

guy. He has a ton of experience, though. He. does. Wasn't he a world champion. champion? Master of sports. And it was. interesting because it's when you watch. it. Yeah. I thought he was just a. wrestler. Oh, he beat the brakes off. He's a player, too, though. He looks. like when you you're watching him. compete, he looks like a wrestler. His. wrestling thing is outstanding. Is he. leg locking people? Not really. He's. smashing people on the ground. Those. guys Those guys in Russia do a lot of. Greco, too, though. When you're a SA. guy, you're also doing a lot of Greco. typically. His clinch is insane. His.

ability to control from the top is. insane. Which was I was going to say. about Rockold the other day. Two fights. in a row. Rock Hold impressed me in a. huge way with his ability to control. from the top against Machita and then. against Weidman because Macha was. impressive but I was like I think he had. Machita [ __ ] up before they went to. the ground. It was a temple thing. Macha. went to the ground he destroyed him. I. think Machita was already [ __ ] up but. Widman wasn't like Widman he just caught. a wheel kick in a fight where there was. a real close fight but once he got him.

on the ground man god damn it game. I. think he was so much stronger too. I. think he's, you know, he's Wyman was. walking around at 193 apparently and and. I mean Rockhold two weeks before the. fight was 216. Technique, too. His. technique is nasty. You can't just say. size. Sizing isn't going to teach you. jiu-jitsu. It's condition. He's. obviously got he's also training with I. don't know Daniel Cormier came to. Alaska. I think that's a huge part of. it, man. I think that's a huge part of. it because like like Cormier said when. he fought Jon Jones, he didn't have Kane. in his corner. Kane was all [ __ ] up. from surgery and he's like, "It made a.

big impact on me. I really felt it.". Whether or not that had anything to do. with him losing to Jon Jones, you making. that face. Fight. I want to see Anthony. I want to see Anthony Johnson and Jon. Jones fight. Oh, yeah. I want to see. that, too. But that's what I want to. see. But Cormier, uh, I want to see him. with Kane in his corner training with. him. See if that has any impact. But. that fight's going down, right? Kane's. going um through surgery. Apparently, he's going to have back surgery. Really? He already had it. Yeah, he already had. it. He already had it. What do you think. about home and tape?

Well, that came that came back surgery. is not an easy thing. Like that's not. like a small deal. You're taking pieces. of your disc. He's out for a while. He. had a disctomy, right? Is that correct? What does that mean? That means that the. the gel that separates your discs, he. had a piece of it removed because it was. pressing into his nerve. It's a very. controversial procedure because some. people feel like you don't have to do. it. Like Louis Simmons, the guy from. Westside Barbell, they uh wanted to take. him and fuse his discs. And that's why. he created that machine that I have out. back. The hyper uh the uh back um what.

the [ __ ] it called? Reverse. hyperverse. Reverse hyper. Uh oh, that's. a big loss of wine. Yeah, you're not mad. at that wine trying to get [ __ ] loose. drums in the background. My favorite. Kante right there. Some tomahawks. Ken. brought the fire tonight. Brought the. fire. Get involved in that. So, what do. you do with Kane? You got you got to. rehab that back, man. I I'm not. necessarily a big fan of cutting your. back right away. I think you got to take. some time off of training and really. heal that [ __ ] up correctly. I'm pretty. sure you already had surgery. Well, here's my thoughts, though. If you want.

to get back into it really quick, that's. the way to do it. But long-term health, I'm not entirely convinced. I need. obviously I'm not a doctor. Um, but I've. recovered from bulging discs. I had a. bulging disc in my back that doesn't. exist anymore. And a bulging disc in my. neck. It doesn't exist anymore. If you. look at it on an MRI, it looks. different. And it's from long-term. rehab. I had to take a lot of time off. of Roland. I had to do spinal um. decompression with uh I did it at an. office with a chiropractor at first and.

then I got some machines where you could. strap them up some mechanical [ __ ] you. strap to your door at your house. I went. through regenine injections. I went. through a lot of raaling and uh like. breaking apart scar tissue that was. pulling on everything and everything was. all [ __ ] up and tightened up. It was. just like years and years of wear and. tear. But now through that and through. yoga, I don't have any of those issues. anymore. They're gone. So, I don't know. what his how bad his was, but I know. mine was my [ __ ] hands were numb, you.

know? My left hand was going numb. Yeah. My fingers my my two fingers, my ring. finger and my pinky finger were going. numb. So, let me ask you this, Joe. What. do you do with the heavyweight division? You have Verdoom fight a guy like. Rothwell Steipe. I think what Kane. should concentrate on if I was Kane, I. mean, get your body completely [ __ ]. healthy. There's a lot of people that. have like severely criticized his. strength and conditioning videos that. are online. I don't know if he works. with this guy anymore, but he was. working with a guy that was like the. strength and conditioning coach and he. had him doing these. You haven't seen. this? Oh my god. Pull up. Is he doing.

some [ __ ] Oh yeah. Pull up. Kane uh. does uh 200 lb kettle bell swings. His. form is, according to Steve Maxwell and. according to uh a bunch of other. respected kettle bell trainers, completely wrong. And this guy's got him. lifting this insane weight and doing. this completely almost like a shrug. It's 200 lb. Yeah, it's like 200. I. think it's more than 200. I think it's. 200 plus. Here it is. It's 203 lb. So. this is his train and like I'm telling. you the reviews on on YouTube by people.

that seem to know what the [ __ ] they're. talking about. Like watch this. His. trainer looks like Flintstone. But look. at this. Like what he's doing. He's. doing a shrug. That's not a swing. That's not a swing at all. That's not a. swing. Yeah. No wonder your back's. [ __ ] up. You can you can totally get. [ __ ] up doing this. The [ __ ] is that? It's wrong. And the guy had him doing. leg extensions. Well, look, the guy's. obviously a big [ __ ] guy himself. That doesn't mean [ __ ] I mean, this is. better than doing nothing, right? I. disagree. But it's not optimal. It's not. the best.

technical ever. 100%. It's a big ass. That looks like one of those bouncy. balls that my son has. Yeah, man. Dude, all he's doing is swinging and then. doing like an upright row row. Yeah, it's Well, it's a shrug. It's like he. swings, he swings, he gets to where his. dick is and then he like a shitty shrug. upright row. It's sure as [ __ ] not a. kettle bell swing. It's not a kettle. bell swing and it's probably not good. for you. It doesn't look right. And. Steve Maxwell was furious. When Steve. Maxwell saw it, he was like that that is. that's like he was like almost. essentially calling it like malpractice.

That looks horrible. I don't have a. degree in it, but that looks terrible. I've been around the weight room my. entire life. That looks [ __ ]. terrible. What you got with Kane is you. got a [ __ ] super athlete. A guy who. just do what you tell him and [ __ ]. push through everything. Yeah. And. that's probably one of the reasons why. he's been injured cuz he's pushed. through some pain that maybe he should. laid off of. And I don't know like what. I mean this for him is perfect. Maybe. it's perfect. Maybe it's a real simple. thing. Like maybe it's only sticking out. a little bit on one side. If they trim. it, he'll be back to training in four. weeks. I don't know. But I know that for.

a lot of people what you can you can get. like real hasty and make a decision to. jump in a surgery and it's not the best. decision. But especially when there's a. lot of money on the line. But you have. to fight though. That's the thing for a. lot of these guys like they might have. to fight in 6 months. So you would have. to get the surgery because realistically. with 6 months of therapy, you might not. be ready again yet. Dude, he has to. fight before 6 months. The heavyweight. belt's on here. Wait 6 months. Well, if. his health is on the line, flying arm. triangle. If his health is on the line,

man, this guy's good, man. What weight. is this? Is this heavyweight? 205. This. is the main card. No. Yeah. Mishka Cir. Cirunov is a tough Russian guy. Tough. Russian stud one two bodies on him. That was pretty brutal. Good hair. Good. hair on that guy. I'm just saying Joe, you you if he's out six months, you're. going to have to have the Well, he don't. have the title. He doesn't have the. title. You're going to have to do. Rothwell. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He would do. both of them in that time that it takes.

him to realistically come back. Yes. But. he's got to I don't know. He's got to be. careful. He's just he's still fairly. young. I mean, I think Kane's like what, 34? 34. He has a lot of experience. You. know what I'm saying? Like it catches. up. But he could realistically fight at. the highest level for the next three. years. But with these injuries, well, if. you Yeah, I don't know. It's real. controversial, but in my experience. talking to different doctors. There's. doctors that say you should get surgery, and there's doctors who say you should. absolutely not get surgery until you've.

exhausted all the options. Yeah. Either. way, still one of the greatest of all. time heavyweights easily. Well, Jake. Shields, they were telling him he was. [ __ ] They were telling him he. couldn't couldn't fight again. You. should stop training. Start. And he was. really mad. He's like, "These [ __ ]. doctors are so negative, man." Cuz first. of all, they're just regular doctors. used to dealing with regular people. A. lot of them not used to dealing with. elite athletes and guys who are willing. to go through like the kind of rehab. that a guy like Jay Shields is willing. to go through, right? Like some serious. [ __ ] pain and discomfort. But he got. through it. He's fighting now. control.

your emotions. He just backed out of his. fight in a World Series. Apparently, it's a contract thing. Yep. Do you know. the full details? I don't. Apparently, what it is is it's a title fight. So, if. he fights for the title because Paul. Harris gets stripped. They strip Paul. Hares after the John Fitch fight cuz. they say he held it too long, right? Was. it a Fitch fight? I thought he. No, he got banned his eyes. Yeah. Stripped him out after that. And then. but here's the thing about the the eye. gouge. Like you either stop the fight.

like while it's happening. Yeah. You. don't let it go. Can't see. And and then. to to like to strip him afterwards for. eye gouges. That's super unprecedented. Well, maybe they saw tape and realized. he was dragging his finger through it. He was he was hiding what he was doing. Mitch like Mitch. It was very evident. Replays. Everyone saw it. They're just. like, "Ah, you're good. Just keep on. keep on." Harris is a cheater. He was. cheating. He was definitely sticking. fingers in the eye. That was a real. issue. He's a bad guy. What people got.

mad about was the kimura. He held the. kamura. But I don't think that was that. bad because the referee was in the wrong. place. The referee [ __ ] up. Referee's. tapping his back. You're expecting him. to recognize that that's a referee. tapping his back in the middle of a. ferocious cage fight. The referee is. supposed to be in between the two of. them. He's supposed to stop it. If it. was a normal guy, he's notoriously known. for it. He's done it so often. But if it. was a normal guy, like if it was you, if. you had Mitriion in that same position, you hit that kamura and you held it for. that long while the referee was tapping. you, I do not think you would get the. same kind of grief. I think you would.

say, "I was in the middle of the fight. I didn't even realize the referee was. tapping me. I didn't see him." Cuz the. referee's in the wrong place. The. referee in that position is supposed to. get in between the fighters. He's. supposed to be in front so he could look. him in the eye. Well, Pah Harris has. that humor. He was out of place. He was. over here. He's supposed to be over. here. What about uh Paul Harris versus. Gary Tonin and Polaris? Damn, I love. that. Polaris 3. Where's that taking. place? How gangster is Gary Tonin? Let's. explain Polaris. I hope Gary Tonin beats. him. I hope Gary Ton beat Polaris is uh. a a jiu-jitsu show, a jiu-jitsu event.

held in England. It's kind of like. Metamorris. They have a bunch of single. matches that are submission only. And I. think if there's no submission, it ends. up being a draw at the end. It's just. like Metamorris in that respect. I think. 15 20 minutes, something like that. And. they put on great shows, great matchups. And uh man, Gary Tonan is taking on. Paul. That is so [ __ ] gangster. I. agree. When I saw scared wants to he's. the only guy that's asking for Paul. Harz. Nobody wants Paul Harris. This is.

just in jiu-jitsu. Nobody the last five. guys that have fought Paharz. It's. because they just they offered the. [ __ ] fight to him and that no one's. going after him, you know. And in. grappling Pores. What if he locks Pah. Harris? You know, it's highly possible. that he's going to leg lock Paul Haras, but it gives you an idea how good Jake. Shields was cuz he was beating Paul. Haros up on the ground. He was. controlling his body. Jake is very good. He's unbelievable. Jake Shields is one. of the best. Gary Tonin though, when we. saw him at your event, I was I Yeah, you.

were talking. I can't remember last time. I saw something like that. He was eating. these dudes up. Well, that leg lock. game, that John Donner leg lock game is. very high level, man. him and Eddie. Eddie Cumins. The both those guys are. [ __ ] wizards, man. And Donaher. apparently is a wizard, too. Like I. never seen Donaher roll, but everybody. says he's just he's so goddamn smart. It. all started with Dean Listister. Dean. Listister went to Henzo's uh in like. late 90s, 2020, 2001, and Dean Listister. came into the jiu-jitsu world already as.

a sombo guy. So, he was always the guy, even as a white belt, as a blue belt in. Southern California. Dean, we grew up. together in the jiu-jitsu world. He was. always that leg lock dude, that sombo. guy who got into jiu-jitsu. So that dude. Dean Listister goes on to win Abu Dhabi. absolute leg locking [ __ ] everybody. That knee bar that he hits Salo Rivero. with, holy [ __ ] In 2003, watch that. [ __ ] The knee bar he hit Solo Rivero. Salo Roberto is like one of the best. ever. One of the greatest jiu-jitsu.

players ever. And ding that knee bar. that he got him with was in Gary Ton. I. don't know what the current rankings. are, but is he number one? He in person, he might be the best I've ever seen. There's no real official ranking. I'm. telling you, there's a point. There's a. point game and then there's a submission. only game. But but let me finish really. quick. So that guy Dean Listister, he. goes to Hanzo's and Danah's there. Danhur's Hanzo's little prodigy and he. he leaves an impression with Dan. I'm. sure he left uh he left a couple. Oh.

man, he's [ __ ] his jaw. up. And then Danner took what he learned. from Dean Listister and he just blew. that [ __ ] up. And Danur's like a. scientist. I think he's a physicist or. something or Dan Rock Under Armour. He. has his PhD in philosophy. Something. like that. He has his PhD in philosophy. And he used to when Heno used to give. him Henso back, this is literally I. don't know God 2003 or whatever. Henso. when somebody come in to kind of. challenge and somebody was really good. He would kind of casually give John he'd.

say roll with John for a while and see. how you do first. And John would just. you'd watch him tap these dudes like. these really good sombo guys or whoever. they were and he just just like he was. moving in slow motion. He's a. minimalist, right? Yeah. He's just. really smart. He was a bodybuilder or you know. powerlifter type physique at one point. in time and then was working as a he. wanted to learn martial arts to deal. with uh like in bouncing situations. He. realized I should probably have some. skills. That's insane. I had no idea. He.

doesn't look like it now, but he's he's. still obviously very strong. If you look. at him, he's thick and fit, but. apparently he used to be like really. big. Damn. I saw him at a UFC event. He. was like at the bar afterwards and he. had on a [ __ ] rash guard and some. jeans tucked in. No [ __ ] given either. after his wedding. That's his thing. He. wears rash guards. He did. Yeah. So. gangster. I always see him in every. time. He was in Whole Foods. Look who's. Look who he's created. Eddie Cummings, Gary Tonin. Because Gary Tonin went to. Henzos to train with Daner and he didn't.

have any leg locks. He was all rear. naked choke. He had his, you know, basic, he was already a black belt. He. went to Danner. That's when he started. learning the leg locks from him and. through Eddie Cummings. They, you know, then him and Eddie Cummings just became. like best friends and training partners. I was so impressed with Gary, man. I. took I took privates from John Donner. Did you? Yes. Like probably five. And. now they got this new guy, Gordon Ryan, who just got his black belt is [ __ ]. amazing as well. That's the new guy. You're going to monsters at Henzo, huh? Yes. You know who's another leg lock.

master that people forget? Dave Terrell. You remember Dave Terrell versus Ricardo. Almeida in 2003 in Abu Dhabi? I don't. remember that, dude. Dave Terrell had. some nasty ass [ __ ] leg locks. Dave. Terrell was so explosive. I've heard. legendary stories about him in the in. the training room. He's the best ever. I. saw seeing him compete like watching him. in Abu Dhabi. I always expected he was. going to be UFC champion because he went. into MMA and start smashing people. He. knocked out Matt Lynland in the first. round but Evan Tanner got him and he.

also had a series of catastrophic ear. injuries. He had to have his ear removed. from his head. He had like staff inside. his head from his ear. His ears were. just gonzo, right? They were like these. just [ __ ] ashtrays on his head. Hard. as a rock. just all cauliflowered up. But apparently, like just years and. years of hard training, he had he got an. infection inside his ear and they had to. take it out of his body. Take his whole. [ __ ] ear off his head, clean it all. out, like try to fuse it and swab it and.

and cauterize it to get to get it to. stop oozing pus. You know, you know you. tral out when your ear falls off. Didn't. work. They had to do it again. Like he's. got he he went through like and like. when your ear is [ __ ] Have you ever. had an ear ache or real bad an ear? the. worst. Your your equilibrium's off. You. can't do [ __ ] The worst. So fast. He's. like a mythical creature. Uh NorCal. I. hear so many crazy stories about that. guy. I saw him compete. I was like, "That [ __ ] guy moves like a ghost.

He's fast as fuck." And his students, uh, one of them, Joe Sodto, they're so. good at leglock defense. Joe Sodto, when. you generally when you game plan against. Eddie Cummings, the game plan is stay. away from any kind of footsy battles. You don't want to battle with That's the. game plan. Avoid it. Try to do the the. the super basic jiu-jitsu strategy like. what uh um I think it was Lucas Lri in. Abu Dhabi did to Gary Tonin. It was.

either Lucas Depri or Leandro Low. I get. those guys mixed up all the time on but. one of those guys in Abu Dhabi went. against Gary Tonin and he just straight. knee slice. Boom. Stayed tight. Stayed. in side control. H top half tight. Never. let Gary get anywhere near his legs. You. know, that's the game plan against a leg. lock guy like Eddie [ __ ] That's it. You. try to play footsies with him, you're. you're [ __ ] But Joe Sodto, he went. in there in the finals at EBI3. He went. in there and just said he sat on his. ass, said, "I'm going to play footsies. with Eddie Cummings." And it worked for.

a long time. And everybody was just. blown away. It's like, how the [ __ ] is. he leaving his legs out there for, you. know, Eddie Cummings grabbed his legs. and Joe Sodto just displayed just this. incredible uh um defense, his leg lock. defense. I was refing going, "What the. [ __ ] Is he really playing footsies with. Eddie Cummings? He ended up getting. caught. Eddie Cummings did catch him, but he showed tremendous [ __ ]. savagery for going in there and playing.

legs with him." And I talked to him. afterwards and he said, "Dude, I I roll. with Dave Terrell all the goddamn time. That guy's always after our legs." Are. you kidding me? We're used to this [ __ ]. Yeah, it's kill or be killed if you're. in a leg lock. Speaking of submissions, but Cummings knees all [ __ ] up now. How about your boy uh Barnett and. Rothell? Insane. Who the [ __ ] called. that? Insane. Insane. Huh? Insane. Apparently, when Rothell gets a hold of. your neck, he just knows how to Well, he. was showing me what he got him in. Oh, that's horrible. I I don't know how his. hands are, though. I don't know how he's. gripping his hands. I don't know how it. is either. It's a 10-finger guillotine.

essentially, but the his jiu-jitsu coach. wanted to call it a go- go choke because. it it goes against your throat sort of. like a go plata or there's no one hotter. in the in the UFC division, heavyweight. division right now than No, Rothwell's. the beast. He's the beast. Good luck. beating that guy right now with that. confidence. Stipe is the beast too, though. It's like it's real close. Like. after Stipe destroyed Arloski like that, Stipe is right in there, man. We'll face. Mickey Gal later this year. Yeah, Mickey. Gal apparently won earlier tonight. Yeah, he did. And he's uh I was hearing.

a lot of criticisms about a face off. Yeah. CM Punk walked in. It was the. first prelim ever to have a face off. I. just feel like I don't know why he would. want to do that. I feel like if he was. smart, he would just start fighting in. small organizations, you know, like I I. get that you want to get a lot of money. because um the UFC is where it's at with. money, but I would think like the smart. move is what he's already done training. wise. Go to a real camp. He goes to. Rufus. Perfect. Ruf is going to teach. him how to uh strike as good as anybody.

in the world. Agree. And then you got. real good wrestling with Ben Ascrin. You. got real good jiu-jitsu. You got. everything there. Everything. Everything. there. He's fine. I heard they offered I. heard they offered him to go through the. tough show and he's like, "Nah, man. I'm. trying to go right to the show." So, I. think tough would been better for him. Yeah. You get ratings, we see how he. does. He gets warm up and then, you. know, then he goes. But for your first. fight to be in that octagon, good. [ __ ] Who's Mickey G. Is he tough, though? No. Well, he's a a newcomer. They found him on that looking for a. fight show on HBO in a small show or in.

a YouTube rather in a small uh. organization. What are you looking for, Eddie? He's a He's a brown belt. Brown. belt's significant. He's a brown belt. That That's what I read earlier today. after he won. They said brown belt. He. won by submission. They said he was a. brown belt. I heard I heard blue and. purple. The UFC said brown belt. So, I. don't know. Okay. Well, he might have. got his brown right before the fight, you know, like either way. Give him a. little pump me up. That's three more. belts ahead of CM Punk. That [ __ ] goes. to the ground. Yes, that's a big. difference. Well, who knows what CM. Punk's been able to do in the He's been.

training for over a year. Dude, can you. imagine if CM Punk goes in and gets. merked? It'd be like from the water boy. when Michigan put in the water boy. The. actual water boy. He certainly could, right? I'm He could totally get. merckked. Who knows if this kid can. strike. Like, if he can strike, if the. kid has good jiu-jitsu and he can. strike, good luck learning how to strike. in a year. Jesus. The guy doesn't have. any striking under him. Can you imagine? Okay. Like, you're going to. some some dude who's got like some. serious knockout power and you're going. to practice for a year. That's. ridiculous, dude. I like CM Punk as a.

person, but for the sport, I think it's. best if he gets merked. Is that [ __ ] up? And that's going to. make headlines. I'm happy when anybody. says gets merked. Me, too. I like when. you go get starched. Is there anything. worse? You and I were arguing about. Rumble and Jon Jones. Go. You never. know, man. Rumble could starch him. And. when he said starch, oh, he could. He. could. Rumble could start anybody. Anybody in the world. Rumble can hit you. on the temple and your [ __ ] could just. go. I think John the floor. He has the.

biggest head along with Steep I've ever. seen. Rumble. Rumble's head is gigantic. It's a big [ __ ] head. If he connects. against Jon Jones, that's it's I don't. think he will though. I think Jon takes. him down, wears him, wears him out, and. takes his heart. People forget that. Stipe got stopped by Skyscraper. Stephan. Stru back in the day. Knocked him out. Yeah, Stephan inside it. Boom. Knocked. him out. It's true, man. He's had some. real tough fights. There's a guy who's. had some real tough fights. He's had. some like brutal knockout losses. Horrible losses. He's 7 foot tall. Sure.

play basketball. Back in the day, the. kid had some mad potential and still. does. He's only 26, 27, right? He has so. many fights though, man. His age is not. what you I count I count. He has what, 40 fights, some [ __ ] Yeah, he's had. some ruthless knockouts inside the Oxod. And when's the last time you saw 7 foot. tall grandpa? Anyone go? They don't live. long. Anybody? Anybody? No, they don't. Although we said conditions. No. Yeah, they all they all have heart conditions. They're just too big. I wonder if they. can mitigate that today. What if they.

understand like what it is that the like. maybe you're dying? [Laughter]. So, you're pretty tall yourself, Brandon. You're. tall and I am nowhere near 7 foot. You. both are going to be 100. I'll be I'm on. the back nine for sure. Well, you know. what though? Honestly, do you really. want to live past 80? [ __ ] right. What kind of dog [ __ ] arthritis ridden. existence is that? Oh my former athlete. Former athlete past 80. Good lord.

Unless they come up. Well, you know what. though, man? Think about that. 40 years from now, who the [ __ ] knows. what kind of. crazy My daddy, what's going to happen. when I'm 45? And I he's asked me that. for real and I said, "Shit, you'll be. able to be dead." That's what I said. I. just don't want to be dead when you come. out. I thought about that. I'm like, well, he's going to be 45. April 23rd. Sorry. I just got to call.

this out. Oh, April 23rd. MGM. John. Jones has been lifting weights. Hey, I. love how John's lifting weights. Everyone's like, "No, he's he's a good. guy now. Everything's all good." Why? Cuz he posts pictures lifting weights. He's a [ __ ] monster now. Damn. Jon Jones is ridiculous. Good luck beating him. Yeah. God. And I. don't think Rumble's going to wait for a. for a title shot. Yeah. And I He said. he's not I wouldn't wait if I was.

Rumble. I would get some quick work in. and if he got busted with Coke again, dude. Ryan. Ryan Bader. I love the guy. He said, "Oh [ __ ] that that ain't. snowflake." That [ __ ] came. riding, shot a low single, and just. stayed on it. And also hanging on to a. kamura. Damn, look at this against a big. guy. Ceudo, man. [ __ ] Johnson. versus the. co- is that the Olympic. wrestler medalist, right? Yeah. Olympic. gold medalist. Said those guys are super small. He's a.

I was like I was 125. Oh, that's right. 12 must be the girls division. Those. guys are quick. Yeah, that's what I. say. Um, this guy's a scramble. What. were we talking about? They can hustle. They can hustle. What were we just. talking about? Corier Rumble. And oh, quick work. Ryan. Bader like him trying to finish that uh. Kimora. Like that's a hard move to pull. off on a strong dude as it is, right? A. guy as strong as Rumble was on top and.

you don't even have half guard. Panicked, I think, cuz he had no control. when he was holding on to it. He had to. do something with his legs. He just. didn't have the dexterity to get into a. position like a half guard or something. and then get up to the like to to the. dog fight, right? Rumble said, "What the. [ __ ] is this?" He got empty half at one. point, right? Well, the problem is he's so [ __ ]. strong. And in the beginning of the. round, he's 100%. He's not even remotely. tired. He's on your back or he's got you. on your back. He's on top of you. And.

you know, one of those punches is going. to change your life. One punch. Just. one. You got to be really good on your. bat. That's all that is. You got to be. really [ __ ] Or you take him down. It. looked grim. Jon Jones look grim right. there. What's he trying to take down? He. tried to take an ankle. No, I'm saying. Jon Jones is going to take Rumble down. Maybe. I promise you he's going to. inside trip him, take him down. He's. going to break him and then TKO him. He. might. He might not. Man, you're so. confident with Yeah. How could you say. that? You're so confident. Who [ __ ]. knows it's going to happen. Damn. That's. what I think is getting better and.

better. And now that he's training with. Neil Malans, he's getting his grappling. in order. I hear you, Joe. It's all. Yeah, I agree. He's a monster. Hypnotized. Johnson. Was Johnson a two. champion? He's got to get hypnotized. He. might. He got you. The champion. He. might. He has the skills to starch. anyone, in the words of Joe Rogan, but. yeah, he's got the skills to stiffen. them all up. It's whether or not he can. apply it against the very best of the. best. But he's at this edge. Like, I. don't think he's done improving. So he's. at this edge right now where only a guy. like Cormier can beat him because.

everybody else, Jimmy Manoa, everybody. gets the [ __ ] beat out of him. Gustiffson gets the [ __ ] beat out. I. disagree. They fight. I think it's five. and five. That's a good fight. Got. headbutt and uh Rumble Johnson's a good. fight matchup wise. Gustoson got. headbutt actually. They had one fight. and he he got stared. Yeah, he smashed. him. Yeah, I know. I'm saying that. doesn't happen every time. I don't know, man. I don't know what happens every. time. You got a good fight. You got no. one knows. It might not happen every. time, but with the data that we have.

currently available. Scary guy who knocks everybody dead and. he knocked the guy data. He knocked him. dead. And so you got to think, okay, first of all, the kind of beating that. Gustoson took in that fight, you don't. want to take again. That was a bad. beating. How about the data with DC. Anthony Johnson? Bracy break. He broke. him. He definitely broke. So when I see. a guy break and I look at Jon Jones. who's broken everybody including DC. broke DC. Let's not get a good point.

Look at the data we have here. Yes. We're assuming according to the data, right? But that we're not talking about. him. We were talking about Gustoson. I. know you're talking about just pull up. that head. But that was a monster. [ __ ] fight. It definitely looks like. they collided. And everybody can get. broken. Everybody can get broken. If a. guy there's always going to be a guy. that's going to break you. There's. always going to be multiple guys that. can break. The great ones don't get. broke cuz they're not they don't fight. anybody that much better than them.

against the other guys. Lombardi. Lombardi said Vince Lombardi said. fatigue makes cowards of us all. Mhm. For sure. Look how look how fatigue John. was against of men. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's I've I've thought of that all the. time. Yeah. It makes me a [ __ ] You. tired? I turn into such a cardio. Everybody does. Cardio [ __ ] Is a. [ __ ] But you know what, man? I've been getting into just straight. cardio over the last few months. I've. been doing like these hardcore cardio. workouts just cuz I hate them. What are. you talking about? Like what kind of.

cardio? Ridiculous sprints. Like not. like a Tabata protocol, but I do a 30. secondond on, 30 second off on an. elliptical machine. I I adjust it from. 16, which is pretty hard, pretty stiff, to 20, which is like you're wrestling. this [ __ ] thing. And I'll do these. death sprints. 30 and 30. That's good. Those look good. For how many though? You have 30 options? It depends on what. I'm trying. It depends on what I'm. trying to do. But I I do I do a 45minut. workout. And what I'm doing the 45minute. workout, the first 15 minutes I'm just. getting everything ramped up. So the.

first 15 minutes is no sprints. The. first 15 minutes just keeping it on 16. and going at a very fast pace. And then. once I get to the first 15 minutes and. I'm sweating, then it's death runs. I go. on these 30 second death runs. It for a. whole 30 minutes depending upon how how. long I can l how many death runs I can. do cuz sometimes I can't do the death. runs. I just have to just pace myself at. 16. But then when I feel like I've got. my heart rate down cuz my my elliptical. thing has got a little heart rate thing. What kind of elliptical do you have that.

[ __ ] beast of a workout? You just got. to Oh, they all they all can. Everybody. uses elliptical machines. They just kind. of go steady. But if you go on a death. run, you got to go on a save your life, save your loved one, save your mom from. [ __ ] Who makes you do that though? I. do it. I just do it. No, but I mean like. like when you sprint my inner. insecurity. Can't you like think you're. sprinting but you're like during the. sprint time you're like uh you know. what? No, man. I'm [ __ ] I'm going as. fast as I can. Whatever. You know,

there's a number of revolutions per. minute and I want to keep it above a. certain number. I don't remember what it. is at at 180 or at um at 20, but it's. somewhere what you want your heart rate. to be somewhere around 180 and I forget. what the revolutions are because they're. different on the one that I use at the. gym versus the one that I use at home, but you have a number where you can keep. it at that number. So, it's at like 147. I think. So, when you hit 147, you just. got to [ __ ] keep it there for that 30. seconds and it's big deep Wimhof breaths.

the whole. time. and just wrestle this thing for 30. seconds. You know what's a nightmare? And then relax. Yeah. You know what's a. nightmare is setting just a little. something. Set the treadmill at 15. incline and it put it at 4 miles an hour. and walk walk for for 15 minutes. Try to. try to stay on that pace. [ __ ] Kill. you. Did I uh have I have I talked about. what the cardio I did for Metamor? Yeah, the sprinting in the pool. Yeah, it's. awesome. Well, Tim Ferris, death runs.

Death runs and recovery. That's what. it's all The thing about the pool thing. though is the way I did it was there's a. giant clock and every time it hits 12, you sprint across the pool. So when you. get to the end of the pool, whatever's. left in that minute, you get to rest. So. when you're when you're doing that, no. one has to tell you bust ass. You're. busting ass to rest cuz you know after. the first uh maybe six laps are easy. Soon as the clock hits 12, you bust ass.

across the pool. You sprint, you get. past and it's like you got 35 seconds to. rest and then you rest and you do it. back. As soon as it hits the 12, boom. After like 12, you're dead in the pool. And no matter how chaotic your breathing. is, you got no matter how tired you are, you got to keep your breathing on point. because to swim you're [ __ ] So you got. you're like dying, but at the same time. there's something in your mind that. you're on dude survival mode. You're. dying, but your breathing's got to be.

perfect or you're going to swallow. water. You're going to swallow water and. you That to me was super [ __ ]. crucial. It's great for grappling, too, because you're wrestling with the water. No matter what you're breathing, no. matter how chaotic your situation is, it. it it uh you practice breathing in. chaotic situations because if you if you. uh uh hiccup at all, you swallow water. This is a good fight, Zack. Zack. Makovsky and Joseph Benz. This is a very. good fight. I've been looking forward to. this. Benz gets another title shot, you. think? Maybe. He's down at Muscle Farm.

and he's uh training with Bang again. Doing all his training with Bang. Um I. don't know what's going on with uh those. guys in Sacramento. What's happening. like how many how often they're Him and. Lance Palmer have been bouncing all. over. I don't mean to cut you off, Joe. Him and Lance Palmer have been bouncing. all over. They went to Jackson's. They. went to Muscle Farm. And at Muscle Farm, you know, it's T they got a hell of a. team down there. TJ, Lance Palmer, Benvdas, Neil Magny, Thatch. Well, Benvda has got to do what he's got to. do. I mean, he doesn't have any many. years left. I think he's in his 30s as.

well. And especially I think he's 34, but at one Oh, boy. Wow. What's he do if. he loses 25? Well, what if he loses to. Macoski tonight? I mean, Maki beats this. guy back. Maybe just took him down. I. agree. Let's say he fights DJ for a. third time. He loses. Hey, man. Four. We. can't do four. I'm sorry. We can't do. four. It's a We got to move on. Well, what does he do then? That's a real. question. Opens a gym. Did you see Did. you you see [ __ ] Justin Scoggins. today? Yes. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. He looked fantastic.

Justin [ __ ] Scoggins. Holy [ __ ] Holy. [ __ ] Godamn, dude. Yes. That karate. I. didn't know [ __ ] about him, dude. I'm. I'm not like you guys. I'm not like an. encyclopedia right now. There's too many. UFCs. I I can barely keep up. I didn't. know who the [ __ ] he was, but I saw him. for the first time today, the prelims, and I I was thinking, "Holy [ __ ] Ray. Bour." Cuz before Yeah. before the fight. started before the fight started, they. had mentioned they go, "Scragggins. thinks he has the best movement in MMA.".

And I'm like, "Oh my [ __ ] god, how [ __ ] can this guy be? The best. movement in MMA, you [ __ ] retard.". And then after one round, I'm like, "Okay, he might have, you know, let me. see another round. Let me Can you can. you keep the pace?" And then he was he. looked really good on the ground. His. ground, his wrestling was good, and his. striking was just like coming from all. sorts. He's fighting left-handed, he's. fighting right-handed, he's throwing. every kick and spinning everything. Like, holy [ __ ] this he's one of the.

best guys at standing in that sideways. karate style stance and using the front. leg, too. He front leg sidekicks your. thigh, front leg, sidekicks your body. I. don't know if Brian is a [ __ ]. was correct or not, but he was talking. about how and I don't know, like I said, I don't know anything about Scrogggins, but Brian Stan was saying that when he. fights uh southpaw, he fights uh more. karate, and when he fights right, you. know, orthodox, he's fighting more Muay. Thai or something like that. Like when. he's fighting right hand, this style, when he's fighting left hand, this.

style. Like, holy [ __ ] how cool is. that? That's a great style. But he. changes it up. Like right here, I feel. good when we tie. right here. I'm a. karate guy. Like, holy [ __ ] that's. amazing. His his sideways stance allows. him to use that front leg. So, if you're. fighting a guy that doesn't know like. that style, he can get away with a lot. of [ __ ] Like, if you're used to a guy. who's fighting Muay Thai style with that. light front leg and the more of a like a. closed off stance, you can get away with. that with a Muay Thai guy. But with a. karate guy, he'll stand sideways like.

with with Yeah. He'll stand sideways and. throw those [ __ ] front leg side kicks. and you don't know what to do. Yeah, like he throws them from way outside. He's like a lot of these Muay Thai style. guys, they're standing right in front of. each other. That's the thing. Forward, backwards, north, south. He's all over. the place. Just like a tough to train. for, man. I've never heard of anybody. describe a fighter like that. I mean, have you ever heard of that before? I. think Scoggins probably told him that, you know, he probably had a conversation. with him about the different But have. you heard that before? Have you heard.

I've never heard that before, but it. makes sense if you see how good he is. There's a lot of guys that switch, but. they switch. They're playing the same. [ __ ] Yeah. Two different characters. Like, holy [ __ ] Well, you know who else. is like super versatile at uh being able. to uh uh switch back and forth. Uh. Conor's a wizard. Wonderful. Uh former Strikeforce champion, just. fought welterweight. Uh god damn it. Uh. Saffodine. Yes, Terrick Saffedine. What's [ __ ] happening? Derek Saffine.

is a wizard at going back. Karate is Is he a Dutch kickboxer? What. is he? Um, no, not Dutch. He is uh from. German. He's a German kickboxer. No, he's Turkish. T I think is Turkish, right, Stephanie? No, no, I want to say. Belgium. Yes, he's from Belgium. That's. great. He's from Brussels. He's from where uh Vanam is. Muscles. from Well, there you go. And there you. go. I love me Van. He's the reason I. fought, man. I want to meet him. I want. I've seen him a couple times. That damn.

movie was brutal. I've seen him a couple. times in in Venice and he's got tight. jeans on always. A beautiful and a fanny. pass and a fanny pack. A bubble butt. with a fanny pack day wore a fanny pack. No, he still has one. I just he lives in. Marina del Re. I live in Marina del Re. I see him all the time driving. I don't. want a super I super. He's all over him now. I said before. meet him. We should have him on a. companion. We should have on companion. Oh my god. He's a great guy. I always.

silk underwear. He lives near here. Marina Delray. Marina Del Re. My friend. Marina del Reclaude Vanam on this show. would be [ __ ] amazing. When I come. back when I decide to make my comeback. against the Thai world champion. He's. been talking about making a comeback for. like 10 years. Did he actually fight? No. Listen to me. If you want to see if. you want to see something that is. amazing that no one talks about, you. need to watch the John Claude Vanam. reality show. Oh, I watch it. [ __ ]. wonderful. I've never seen. You're. talking about JBCD. The movie was great.

No, no, no, no. It's a reality show. Reality show is. insanity. After the movie, I love that. you love that you've seen it time. I. made my wife watch it with me. I'm like, come YouTube. I'm like, come watch how. crazy people can be. It's the best. Well, I think it aired in another. country and um he might have aired. Showtime picked it up. That's awesome. So, what what is revealed? Ridiculous. He keeps talking about. having this fight that he's been. scheduling for years. This tie guy. He.

pays this tie guy. Gives him a little. scratch. My friend, come on. Hugging. We're never fighting. We're never. fighting. Just let you know. We're never. fighting. And he pretends he's going to. fight this guy and they [ __ ] knuckle. up. They have these these press. conferences. He goes, I've got to fight. for the children. He's bat [ __ ] crazy. He does this speech about having to. fight for the children. I'm done of the. cocaine. I'm done with this. I'm done. with the party. That [ __ ] needs. better friends. What he does, what he. does better is he gets gacked. He gets.

gacked to the gills on Coke and he goes. to parties with Russian oligarchs. They. fly him out to fly him out to Cheschna. He goes to a [ __ ] disco with a with a. [ __ ] champagne bottle in both hands. And he wakes up in the morning. He feels. bad. He feels bad that the children have. those to the children. I'm going to. fight to show that you got to watch it. to have it. You got to watch it, dude. I. gota. watch on the show. Crazy now. He's bad. crazy. No, he will have it. He loves me. How's he flying private? How does he fly. private everywhere? He's a bad.

[ __ ] He's got money and. everybody was great. A lot of money. That last movie was great. He made a lot. of money. Yeah, but that last movie. probably made eight $8. $70 for that last movie. All those other. movies that he made his whole life, if. he was just reasonably frugal, he has. hundreds of millions of dollars. He's. got a lot of money. Oh my god. How much. money did he make over his career? Time. cop, baby. That was blockare you time. How dare you. cut when it was a blockbuster? I went to. go see it on that Friday night and we.

had a. good Here's something you have to Here's. something you have to consider. Ownership of the movies. Sales of the. movies. He existed back in the day where. people bought DVDs. Oh [ __ ] this is a. good fight. Macauski on Top. He existed. back in the day of Blockbuster back in. the day where people would buy movies. So you get a percentage of that. You get. a percentage of that. You get a. percentage of it when they sell it to. Showtime, HBO, Cinemax, TVS, all that. [ __ ] He got a percentage of all that. I. guarantee you he was producing. He was a.

part of the ownership of those films. He. might have made an ungodly amount of. money. Yeah. Brian, could you beat up. John? How much did he make? How much did. he make? I don't think anybody can beat. him up. Hold on, Jamie. Good answer, Jamie. I'm seeing a lot of information. online, but something I just found said. he is the uh high top 10 highest paid. actors for 2016 with an estimated 82. million in combined earnings. [ __ ] But. let's look at his overall earnings. That's what I'm still making money. He. made 82 million last year, dude. I am. wondering sales.

$245 million. $245 million, dude. If you gave me a. hundred million, I'd do a little coke. every day. He still looks good. He still. looks good. I saw him fly in private. I. was like, "Oh, he's being stupid with. his money." He's fine. No, he's balling. No, he's fine, dude. He screws McDuck. rich. He owns a football team and vodka. and perfume. He does. Yes. No wonder he's. still got $2. million. V Jean Vanam. You guys need to.

stay. I love that guy. He's my hero. He's got so much money he could pay the. guy to fight where they can choreograph. He's paying him to show up and. choreograph the fight. He'll [ __ ] a. fight, but they choreograph press. conferences. He would [ __ ] up everyone. in this room. I think maybe he thought. about actually fighting about three or. four times, but most of the time what it. is is just getting together and saying. that you're thinking about fighting. Schedule a fight, but I have movies to. attend to. Did you ever see the. deposition he did? He he blinded.

somebody in one of his uh movies with a. wheel kick and he had to do a deposition. at his at a trial about how Look at him. Look at him. He's brilliant. Splits him. Hey, who's better looking for real? Oh, he's definitely not as good looking as. Allen now. How dare you? But back in the. day, I'm saying now prime prime John. Claude Vanam. In the day, it was really. close. Yeah, let's not get crazy. John. Claude Vanam all day. Well, he ain't. doing that. There's no one better. looking than Alan Joan. They're just.

different. You don't get better looking. You just. don't. On Benvitas's back. Oh [ __ ] Look. at this. Meanwhile, we don't have any. idea who won. If we've. been if any of you [ __ ] try to say. Benvitas get robbed or got this round. No, I've been watching it. I think Ben. is ahead. But if the decision comes out, we would do a worse job than, you know, name your least favorite. judge. I didn't need anybody's name. I. got I got Ben's ahead cuz he's Oh, shut.

the [ __ ] up. You're right. I was showing. that turn to the screen the entire time. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel. it. Do you have the jeans on, dude? Put. the jeans on, man. Right now. Take those. sweats off. Put those jeans on right. now. I got Brian Ken a pair of the. barbell jeans. So, props to barbell. jeans. Eddie Bravo just took the second. large glass of Veno. This is not a. large. How is this large? How is that large? Well, if you were in a fine restaurant, that's a double, son. Come on, man. This.

would be like pour wine glass. He pours. a slight sipping thing. It's a This is a. delicious wine, by the way. What is it? That's the best candy there. Let me tell. you something about Ken. This. [ __ ] knows his wine. I've gone. to dinner with him and he gets in a. conversation with this and he says, "Uh, what do you have in a burgundy from 97?". And the guy goes, "Oh [ __ ] this. motherfucker's for real. And then Calvin. will start talking about different com. different grapes that are grown on.

different hill signs and he'll explain. he'll explain some [ __ ] to the we were. we ate at this restaurant and the. somalier was like yes correct that's. correct correct he started he started. talking about oh my god I got to work on. your technique hold on your sidekick is. um you got to pick your knee up higher I. think JohnClaude Vanam wears those too. though for sure I'm not stretched that's. why you have to put your knee up higher. they look good It's nothing to do with. stretching. It's just you just haven't. thrown a sidekick in a while. It's a.

little rusty. It's a little rusty. Come. on. You can do it. Are you going to put. your socks on before you kick? People. ask, "Why do you want to put your socks. on? Does that help your kicking?" Yeah, always. You're putting a shoe on. Oh, you like to kick with shoes on? No. When. I street fight, I only when I street, I. take my shoes. Do you still wear those. shiny shoes so that you could throw. roundhouse kicks quicker cuz you pivot? I haven't done if you have a shiny soul. like that's terrible. It's not going to. You got to pick your knee up. You have a. No. See, it's not bad, but you have an.

inherent flaw in your technique that. probably was never never explained to. you. This is what I do. For 49, though, it ain't bad. It's pretty good. It's not. right. I wouldn't want to get hit by. that. I wouldn't want to get hit by. that. Can you imagine? Yeah. If you got. hit right in the shaft, that's where you. would get hit. Oh [ __ ]. What's going on right now? Listen. All. right, watch watch side. Briany's doing. spinning kicks right now. Dude, it's wrong. Those those jeans are. helping though. Look, look, look, Joe.

Are you being serious there? Are you. being serious? Show me what a Show me a. real front leg sidekick for real. Best I. can do, right? Oh, bull [ __ ] Oh, [ __ ] Oh my Well, just this from. here. Yeah. Yeah, just throw it. Let me see the spinning one though, dude. Show them the spinning one. My. wheel kick. Yeah, it's my favorite that. he does. It's my favorite. Too old. How. dare you? You just all you have to do. different all you're doing wrong is. you're coming up your foot is going up. from the ground like in almost like a. half moon right? Yeah. You want to get.

your knee up higher. That's one of the. cool things about those jeans. Way. higher than that. Your knee That's one. of the cool things about those jeans. Yeah. Those jeans, these jeans that. we're wearing, they're like sweatpants, man. You You just have No, no, no. Don't. throw the kick until your knee is up. Get your knee up first and then throw. the kick. The problem is you're doing. both at the same time. No, no, no. Don't. throw the kick until your knee's up. high. Lift your knee up way high past. your waist and then throw the kick. Yes. Knee up first and then don't look over. your stomach. Look over your shoulder.

Yeah, but knee first here. Hold on. This. [ __ ] hysterical. This is ridiculous. This is. so I can't keep doing this while I'm. drunk. I can't watch it. I can't watch. Are you Are you getting this on video? My jeans got me pumped. Joe's going to. go off, dude. Jeans on, jeans on, jeans. Lift egg up. Up here. Up here. Up here. So flexible. Compion. Now from here, turn your shoulder to the right. Turn.

your shoulder to the right. To the. right. Now extend. Extend. Extend. Straight. Don't look over your stomach. Look over your shoulder. Like this. Like. this. Like that. That's how you look. That's the end. That's the end. I'm not. flexible anymore. I You are flexible. You're fine. Look right from here. Watch. Oh, sons. Damn. Even in the air. Even in the air, it's [ __ ] Chuck. Norris is just blushing. Do it. Lift. your knee up and then kick. I still. think John Claude Vanam beats the [ __ ]. out of both of you. First, then kick. Watch. One, two. Okay. Ready? So, the.

difference I'm not mad at Joe's form at. all. No, no, one and then two. One up. All right. Up. Eddie, can you do. twist? Don't look over your stomach. I. don't know what the [ __ ] going on. I. know JohnClaude Vanam would be proud. on your shoulder. Look, I'm throwing it. up here. Yeah, I'm like this. I'm never. like this. Look at Joe's ass when he. throws the kick. Dude, I was just. looking at it. Don't look at Don't look. at the foot. He has a set of honey. Don't look at the foot. Honey des on. him. Look right into the glutes. Look.

deeply into them. Dude, I'd love to see. our actual taekwondo match between Ken. and Rogan. That's better. I would just. stare at their asses. Dude, my barbells. make me a [ __ ] monster. They're. awesome, right? Yeah. Well, you see my. kicks. You see my just It's just fundamentally. a little off. Yeah, a little bit. It's. been years. You get there. But that. those that thing is everybody [ __ ] that. up. Everybody [ __ ] that up. It's the. number one thing about the sidekick that.

people get wrong and it changes. everything. If you learn to do it right. and you learn to get that knee up high, the power difference is [ __ ]. substantial. Is it too late to learn. when you're 40? No. 49 son. No, you just. got to do it right. Hey, Ken, with. Rogan's help, you could be the best. You're the best. You got to dedicate. yourself. I could be the best. Ask yourself, dear diary, today listen, you just can't you can't you, bro. You. Here's the thing. You don't just throw. it. You have to throw it right or don't.

throw it, right? You can't be happy with. the scoop. Never throw the scoop. Listen, the scoop doesn't exist. You. can't do it. If I ever threw a kick like. that, I'd be sick for a year. Just run. One year. Don't throw it. Still sick. Bad threw a. bad side. Looks like he won. But it's. not it's not a bad sidekick. It's just. you need to learn how to do it right. You know, the knee has to come up high. and then you can do it right. Like once. once I showed you how to do it, you were. doing it way better. The last one was.

the best one. I'll tell you right now, you throw that sidekick with John Claude. Vanam in here, he's going to throw up. He's never coming back. No, dude. You. got to get better. I'm dangerous. who. gets dangerous. It's It's real simple. You either do it right or you don't do. it. And that's the only way to get your. house at 5 a.m. tomorrow. We're ready. for my my my lesson. Say you will. You. You'll feel it. I'll put I'll pad you up. like Justin. I put Justin Milos in pads. I hope you pay him well. I pay him well. Well, that's why I hit him back. He's. going to be like Freddy Roach about. three years. I have leg pads on him. I. have leg pads on. I have a body pad on.

him. I don't kick him in the body. though. I only kick him in the tie pads. But I [ __ ] him up with body shots. like body shots where pads. It's so fun. And what if it gets to the point where. you're like paying like dudes to not. wear pads and [ __ ] you know? Just. [ __ ] do that. Let me [ __ ] you up. Don't hit me back. Don't hit me. They're. just like You don't think someone's done. that? Of course. And you just bring them in. You just. come in and you take a beating and. they'll give you [ __ ] $5,000. Time.

for the killing. You can't do that. They. become like I know too much about brain. damage. Yeah. No, not in the body is. extra. But who is extra? Who knows. what's going on with your liver? Who. knows what's going on with your liver. when you get [ __ ] like like when do. Sanjos kick cowboy in the body and that. knee to the body? Dude, you throw one of. those spinning heel kicks in someone's. body. Dude, listen man. I've seen people get launched across the. [ __ ] the floor from a turning side. kick to the body. They get launched. You.

hit you hit is a back kick somebody. Well, there's a video of me on YouTube. kicking a guy and he soarses. Yeah, he. soarses. There was a video of me doing. that and they took it down because um. it's too dangerous. Too dangerous. Makes. sense. I slew him. I used to racket. Yeah, they beat us son. I told you guys. I called it. Um love that guy. Oh [ __ ]. he was right. Slaying a lot of guys in. his corner. A kick to the body is always. painful because your leg is strong. Even. if you have a halfass kick, you throw a.

kick to the body, it's usually stronger. than most people's punches, unless. you're like some tuneoff type character. Also, your shoulder should take the kick. around. But when you learn how to kick. and you kick good, a kick to the body is. horrific. It's horrific. Especially if. your shoulders, you should work on your. body. Stop. Dedicate your life to all. I'm doing. I cannot do the podcast. Dedicate your life to kicking. I think. you can afford to pay dude so that you. [ __ ] Hey, it's not going to kill him. You get rich kill. You got to bring in.

like 10 guys a session. because dudes will only be able to last. like 90 seconds tops with Joe. Joe's. going to need kicks hard, dude. He's. going to need eight guys a day. At 49, he kicks as hard as anybody a pop. [ __ ]. I have a few months. That's $10,000. You. do kick harder. I've been around kicking. for a long time. You kick harder than. anybody. Well, I learned. I can't. believe I just said I've been around. kicking a long time. Can you imagine how. good that'll feel, dude? He could do. that if you could just You know who. kicks hard back in the day? Who? And I. and I was right next to him. I I watched.

Boss Rooten kick a bag. Oh my god. Boss. How dare dude. It sound like It sound. like somebody shooting a shotgun. You. know who's the strongest strongest I've. ever heard kick a bag. Pedro. Yep. Pedro. Hizo's leg kicks. They scared me more. than anything I've ever seen in my life. He's got the widest hips I've ever seen. When I saw him kick the bag at Beverly. Hills Jiu-Jitsu, I all I thought of is. is just would take one and I'd be over. There's no way I would survive. If he. kicked me once in the leg, my [ __ ] would. just give up. You know who had the. hardest kick I've ever seen? Who? Shane. Carwin. He's a gorilla. He But he never.

threw. He was always too tempted to. throw him. He wasn't tempted to throw. them in the fight cuz he thought the. heavyweights could counter. He [ __ ] up. so many guys legs in the gym. They. banned him from kicking. He had to stop. kicking. Well, that's terrible idea. Why. didn't they [ __ ] pay people the the. money to go down? Just wear balloons. Yeah. Like car like didn't Trevor. Whitman train him? Yeah. Why didn't. Trevor have him throwing kicks? Cuz. Trevor is a wicked kickboxer coach. They. would work on kicks all the time, but. then he would never throw it in sparring. and do it in fights. Man, that's too.

bad. His legs were so heavy like [ __ ] up. your ACL. Was a [ __ ] freak specimen. as far as like his skeletal muscular. structure. He had to spar him every day. for how many years? I can't even. imagine. Seriously, how would you I. don't know how you get out of the car. Today, I'm going to shoot as far as. stuck in Denver. Not much to do. I was. saying I I either got to start rapping. or play basketball or [ __ ] spar car. Did you wear a football helmet or. something? I would never have done that. Football helmet wouldn't help. Probably. going to be a bigger thing for him to. hit. Dude, I was uh living in Boulder.

and I was training at a mall East and. this guy walked in and I was we were in. the middle of class, right? We're going. over drills and I saw this guy walk in. I'm like, that's not even a real person. I'm like, that can't be a real person. Then I realized it was Carwin. He had. this t-shirt on that looked like it. probably was made for me, dude. Right. He had his his [ __ ] arms were my. thighs essentially. He's He looks like. juggernaut from X-Men. He was at the. time. I mean, he wasn't making he had to. make 265. So like Carwin, he's cutting. weight. Yeah, he's cutting a little bit.

of weight. Shredded too. He was so big. Real quick, Misha hottest MMA fighter. So hot. A hot set of one two bitties on. her. She's so hot. The booty is just out. of control. And uh she's also awesome. She's just a nice person, too. She's. sweet. By far the hottest girl I think. in MMA. She's also just Yeah, she's. awesome. There's some [ __ ] pretty. decently hot ones. Name one hotter than. her, though. There's some girl that just. started fighting in Bellator that looks. really hot. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's pictures of her. I tell you. what, Tiff time bomb ain't I wouldn't. kick her out of bed for crackers and. kicked me in the face.

Rose is hot. Rose is hot as [ __ ] Paige. Vanzant's hot. Yeah, I know. Once Paige. got her ass whooped like that. I'm like, I'm off that train now. No, I'm just. kidding. I'm just kidding. How. dare time bomb. No, Paige. I'm a Paige. fan. Don't get me twisted. I'm a page. fan, but still Misha Tate pound for. Waterman is sick. Aren't you guys. married? What the [ __ ] Speak for. yourself. Sorry guys. Eddie, you know. free agent son. Voice of morality. Oh, really? That's I don't like seeing him.

when they get punched like that. Well, enjoy this kick then, son. Oh [ __ ] Oh [ __ ] Oh yeah. Oh [ __ ] They. try They try everything in their power. not to show that. Like [ __ ] No, they. don't. They show that [ __ ] all the. time. That's in the loop now. You know. the loop, the knockout loop that plays. to Baba O'Reilly, the the who song? They. put Rhonda on the Baba. Oh [ __ ] Yep. You have to know this. Of course he. does. He He's a part of it. You [ __ ]. up. No, you [ __ ] up. Brought it to. light. Dana's going to listen to this.

and that shit's going to be marked out. Look at St. Pru. I didn't know he was. Listen, Holly Holm is a [ __ ] legit. champion. He doesn't play favorites that. much. He might have a love for Rhonda. like as a person, but the bottom line is. business is business. And Holly is the. [ __ ] champion, man. And with a. spectacular result, you couldn't remove. that spectacular cuz that was the most. spectacular result in the history of. women's MMA in the. UFC. My god. Yes. I want to see I want. to see Holly on a private jet with what.

we're seeing now. Holly's having her. first fight. Stirs trouble. What did. this [ __ ] say before the podcast. started? Let's talk about No, you just. started. You just me and we're talking about the. sport. He got talking about the sport. He got sucked in. Brian sucked me. I. sucked you in. [ __ ] you, Brian. Hey. Hey. I can't handle this on my low carb. diet. My low. He's about to go into. ketosis. I'm going into emotional. ketosis. I think I think it's really. easy. Me, Misha, and Holly. I think if.

if Misha can't take Holly down, if Misha. can't take Holly down, Holly's going to. win. She's either going to decision her. or she's going to take down. But if she. could take her down, if she could take. her down, she's not going to take Holly. down. I don't think I don't think. Holly's jiu-jitsu is anywhere near. Misha's graphic. Holly is. stronger. She and she's going to light. her up. Hey, Misha went three rounds. Hold up. Hit the brakes. Let's not say. she's going to do this because we really. don't know. I I really have a problem.

when people do that. I said two things. He said he did. He did. He said she's. going to light her up. said she's not. going to be let her down and she's going. to light her up. I don't really think we. should say that. You don't think that's. a fair assessment? I think it's. disrespectful. I think this is what I. think. I think honestly I think Misha. Tate is a better grappler. I think Misha. Tate dominated Sarah McMahon on the. ground and flipped her over on her back. and held her down which is a giant. accomplishment. Outgrappled her, out. ground her out and showed some badass. striking against Jessica. Dropped her. with a punch, can strike and also is not. going to be ridiculous. She's not going.

to charge. She's not going to be chin. up, you know, face first. talked it out. very high. All I'm saying is that I I. don't think it's disrespectful. I would. never be disrespectful to Mr. Tate, however. No, no, no. I don't think it's. disrespectful just 10 minutes ago. You're a disrespectful junk fan. I. didn't get to work. No, the jeans the. jeans haven't been worked out yet. But. uh those jeans are like [ __ ] yoga. pants. No, not they they need to be the. fibers. The fibers are so tight. I put. these on today. I got them from the. same. You broke them in. Look at how. flexible you are, man. I got them from. the same package. I'm getting turned on,

man. Uh I like Listen, listen. They come. from the same box. These are new. No, these are No, I got to Hold on. Let me. Yeah, now they're broken up. You still. have the tag on these [ __ ] No, they. still have the tag on them. I don't know. about that. Those look very broken. And. I think you're lying. I just got them. No, you put them on that machine. You. bought them. You put put them on that. jean machine. I They I didn't I didn't. buy them. They sent them to me for free. I I don't think it's disrespectful to. say one of the greatest strikers, the. greatest striker ever in MMA. The. greatest ever for women in MMA. In MMA. Yana. Um Yana J. Some would say I think.

Holly I would say Holly. Holly Holly Holly and Yana sayully to. say to say that she would light up. account for KO power. But to say that. Holly would light up anybody is not. disrespectful. It's a compliment to. Holly. It's not a distant No, you were. saying she's going to light her up. I. believe that and it's not being. disrespectful. It might happen or Misha. might take her to the ground and be able. to dominate her from there. Good luck. taking her down. Her take down defense. is awesome. It is. She's never been. taken down before. She might not she. might not be able to get taken down. She's never been taken down before. If.

she can if she if Misha can't take her. down, I think Misha's going to uh if she. can take her down, she's going to be all. over on the ground. I. know. We don't know because it's really. a mystery. Like, we haven't seen Holly. on the ground except for those brief. moments with Rhonda where she got out of. Rhonda's armbar attempt and where she. took Rhonda down. That's all we know. It's all we know. As far as you might. have some inside information from gyms. or from people who trained with her, but. all we seeing I know this. I think it's. a tougher matchup stylistic wise for.

Holly than Rhonda. Well, what do you. know? Well, um I know that uh she's not. obsessed with jiu-jitsu. She's one of. those and there's a lot of MMA fighters. like that. I can go I could just rattle. names off left and right. There's a lot. of guys that just want to stand and bang. and work their wrestling and work to get. up. They don't want to [ __ ] learn. jiu-jitsu. There's so many that are. still around. They they don't want to. work on their back. They just want to. beat the [ __ ] out of people. take them. [ __ ] down and get on top or not even. [ __ ] take them down. Just stay and.

bang and and work on their take down. defense. If they get taken down, work on. getting back up. That's savagery. That's. barbarianism. like I hear. Yeah, that's a lot of guys. like that. And I hear Holly is one of. those guys. She just wants to stand and. bang or one of those girls. She's she's. that one of those fighters that's not. it's not obsessive. And what what what. those uh fighters all have in common. that that they're generally not known to. have uh uh dangerous uh weapons off.

their back and they usually she gets. [ __ ] up and kicks [ __ ] in the face. Yeah. If she that's especially in. women's division. who's whose jiu-jitsu does she have to. worry about in the women's division? She works on takedown defense a lot and. she works on getting back up a lot. That's what I hear and that and that's. what isn't there a lesson to be learned. that MMA math doesn't really work and. that styles really match up weird. sometimes and this might be a case like.

the Misha Tate fight versus Holly home. fight I think is a very tough fight is. sneaky she's sneaky and she's tough she. does a lot of good she's got a lot of. good skills she's got good skills. standing grinder too she fights with her. [ __ ] hands up high she doesn't rush. in and take crazy chances and she can. pop I mean she dropped Jessica I was a. really good game too She's super funk. She's great in the she's great in the. transition. She's really good transition. and like like Holly, she's lost and been. beaten up before. She got beat up by Cat. Zenano. She's been to the mountain. She.

came back stronger% that coming back. stronger is big cuz she came back and. beat Jessica I and Sarah McMahon. I. thought like showing more determination, show like more grit like she was her. back was against the wall after losing. that fight to Cat and she came back. strong. But from what I've seen, from. what I've seen with my eye, whether I'm. right or not, it looks like Holly Holly. not only is a higher level striker, I. think Holly, just from what I've seen, has much more snap and speed. No. question. She's just so. much better. Misha's record is way.

better in MMA than Well, here's the. thing, though. Been mainly a striker and. not an MMA person. Her boxing her boxing. is unquestionably better. Unquestionably, she's arguably got the. best striking credentials ever in the. history of the women's division. 19 time. world boxing champion. The only one who. comes close is Yana cuz she's six time. world Muay Thai champion when it comes. to actual champions. But Misha can. grapple, she can clinch, she can avoid. striking, and she doesn't necessarily. have to kickbox with her. So, it becomes.

a very different proposition. So, if. they went kickboxing to kickboxing, yes, if they had an MMA kickboxing match, which is what essentially the Ronda. fight was, except for two brief moments. If they went kickboxing, yeah, Holly's. going to [ __ ] her up. But in MMA, Misha's [ __ ] smart. She's She's. sneaky. She knows a lot of [ __ ] and. she's been there before, and she's tough. and she knows she's tough. She knows she. can grind it out in a grueling brawl. Yes. And she has a real shot. She's got. a real shot. See, I I think I think.

Misha, she's never going to beat uh. Rhonda, but Miesa can beat Holly to be. champion. I just think stylistic wise, it's a much better matchup. We know. lateral movement, we won't know. I'm. just saying from what I know in mixed. martial arts, I think stylistic wise, Misha has a way better chance beating. Holly than she does Rhonda. Also, there's a big difference between someone. who is fighting off the back leg as a. counterperson, which Holly is just. ridiculously good at. Her counters, her. timing was [ __ ] spectacular, but.

Rhonda was presenting a predictable. target. There was a lot of running. forward. There was a lot of aggression. So, all Holly had to do So, all Holly. had to do is be patient, find the right. footwork, and catch her coming in cuz. she knew she was coming in. So, it was. an exercise in moving back and. countering. She knew exactly what she. was preparing for. Misha is not going to. do that. So if you remember, but if you. remember like there was uh a few. fighters like most notably Patrick Cotay. that fought Anderson Silva and he didn't. lead and when he didn't lead Anderson. did not look nearly as good a horrible.

fight. It was a horrible fight because. Cotay has a an iron jaw. He's got. knockout power and he's smart. So what. does he do? He knows that Anderson is a. wizard at countering. So he's not his. predictable usual aggressive self. I. don't think those two girls are on the. same level as No, they're not on the. same level. Holly is Holly's on a very. high level for women. For women's been. on a higher level striking watch. forward, get an underhook and try to. grind her out of what surprised me. That's what's this is what we're going. to find out. What surprised me about I.

think Holly I think Holly is so much. stronger. I was amazed how she looked. and so much stronger than Ronda. Ronda's. strong as [ __ ] and it felt like Holly. was This fight ain't the first round by. the way and she's gonna be stronger than. me. This fight's out of the first round. Yeah. Fjiao FA's look like doodoo. lately. Well, he's had some rough. fights, man. Patrick Cummings really. beat him down last uh round. That was in. Brazil. That was a crazy fight, man. OC's a [ __ ] in the first round.

He's a super athlete, man. That powerful. left kick. Sick. He's got a nasty left. kick. He's a dude that just keeps. getting better, too. If you can get him. down, if you can get him down, you can. win the fight. Didn't he try out for the. NFL a bunch of times? Nope. I thought he. did. Nope. He just played at uh. University of Tennessee and then went. straight to uh Really? He didn't he. didn't uh He's a serious athlete, man. Yeah. Maybe he went to combine or. something. Not not the NFL combine, but. he No, he didn't get tryyous with the. NFL when he knocked out Shogun with that. step away left hook. Oh, that was nasty. He let everybody know what's up. Like.

Oh, they're doing Shogun Rashad again, right? No, Shogun. Um is that what it. is? Yes. Yes. Yes. Who's Leota fighting? Leota's fighting Henderson again. Thanks. for nothing. That's a weird fight. Thanks for nothing on both of those. How. dare you? Thanks for nothing. Just you. would watch that. Nah, 10 years ago I. would. Okay. I will absolutely watch Leo. for it. You're like crunk. I am always. crunk for a Leoto fight cuz Leoto just a. a year and a half ago knocked out Mark.

Munoz with that wicked left headkick. Leo Leo is one of my favorite people on. the planet. I'm just saying Dan. Henderson's old. Can we give him. something else? Well, Dan Henderson has. a bunch of fights left in his contract. and I think he still thinks that he can. do it and uh you got to let a guy like. that he deserves the right. Yeah. Two. unsuccessful attempts at professional. football. So there it goes. You were. right, Brian. Doesn't say NFL though, does it? Well, I would imagine. professional. footballian say NFL. It could be CFL. AFL. Oh, really? A ton. Brendan Shaw,

former NFL player with [ __ ] logic. Maybe we should listen. I know. was [ __ ] for 20 years. Who got hurt? Uh Oans's his he kicked. him and he [ __ ] his leg up. He's. limping. Really? He kicked him. [ __ ]. up. Where did he kick him? I need to see. it again. He got He's That leg's [ __ ]. up. Look at his leg. Oh yeah, he's limp. He's limping. He might have hurt his. knee. Osp's thing, man. Is his training. camp, his team, I have no I have no idea. who he's training. Yeah, his legis leg.

is real wobbly, man. He changed. He. changed. Uh he's went to southpaw. Did. you see what happened, Eddie? Well, this. is orthodox. Orthodox. Did you see what. happened to him? He kicked uh homeboy. and hurt his leg kicking him. Oh, like. shin to shin. Something happened like. that. He backed it. Oh, he took it. again. He's not moving. Fa saw that. Well, it's the wrong leg. He's not. moving at all. Fijia just attacked the. right leg. You talking about the left. leg? No, I think he was his right leg. hurt. He switched uh he started out in. south ball and now he switched cuz his. leg's [ __ ] up. So, he's kicking with. his the [ __ ] up leg as his supporting.

leg. The leg that the his right leg is. bunched up. Oh, he's super [ __ ] up. Right leg is bunched. Oh, that's weird. Yeah, he got his knee messed up. Isn't. it weird just to try to like see a guy. try to hide that [ __ ] Yeah. You know. who was the best I have ever seen in it? Uriah Hall. Uriah Hall had his foot. [ __ ] up so bad that his toe was. hanging off and he came back to his. corner and you got we got a camera on it. so we could get a look at it. His foot. was completely [ __ ] up. Like his toe. the bone was sticking out of his toe. Do. you remember Jon Jones? John Jones? That.

was after the fight. That was after it. was over. Uriah, what I'm saying is he. went back to his corner like barely. could walk. And then when the round. started, that [ __ ] completely. ignored it. He was throwing kicks with. it. His [ __ ] toe was hanging off and. he's throwing wheel kicks with it. Yeah, there's his toe. Like, you see how. [ __ ] up it is? It was broken off to. the right and the bone was coming out. Like I could see the bone. Uriah is a bad [ __ ] He is a bad. [ __ ] What's going He hasn't. fought in a while, huh? Well, he lost to.

Gagegard. Remember Gayard? He beat. Gagegard. Then he lost to um I'm sorry. He. lost being very very careful here. Huh. The fight with Gagegar was spectacular. victory for him. One of my amazing and. Gage still ranked higher than him. That's crazy. That doesn't make any. sense. Gard's fighting uh Titles, right? Right. Yeah. Talis in I haven't seen. Talis in Leus is another one who fought. very smart against Anderson Silva. He's. another one that went five rounds with. Anderson. Oh, they're swinging, son. Oh.

my goodness. Oh, you had him FA, you had. him. Look at that. Look. Holy [ __ ] It. looks like he can throw some elbows from. the guard. And Oven St. Poo's on top. right now with FJ as guard. It looks. like he's got good left elbows. One thing about a guy like FJA though is. that Fjou is a really good striker. And. really good strikers are hard to ground. and pound because they don't panic. They. don't lock up. They relax. They get used. to getting hit. They know how to roll. with things and they know what's coming, you know, like they they their IQ as far. as like striking, like where the right.

hand's coming, where the left hand's. coming, what position you're in to put. like real torque behind something. You. rarely catch them clean. Like look how. see how clever he's moving when he's off. his back. Fa was the world champ. Yeah. Didn't FJo fight Anderson back in the. day? No. No. No. He fought um King Mo. and knocked him out in Strikeforce to. win the title. He's a bad [ __ ]. but you know, Fao, he's had a tough. stint in the UFC. He's had some ups and. downs. He might have took He might have. gotten the UFC like a little later in. his career, you know? It would have been. a little late for like him at his best. effort.

Ouch. His knees. Should they be. massaging his knee right now? Do. something. No, I don't know what's wrong. with it. I mean, it's ashy. Could it. have been a Charlie horse? We know that. It's ashy as [ __ ] Depended upon he's. put him might have hurt his foot. I feel. like it's a bad idea to put ice before. you go out there. Yeah, it might be. bring the inflammation down, right? That. right there. That's the That's what did. it. Oh, he might have broke his foot. when he threw that leg kick. That was. his kick. Yeah. He might have blew his knee out or.

blew his foot out or something. Knee up, I think. Yeah. Damn, man. That's too. bad. Yeah. Yeah. He's having a hard time. on it. See how he's It's kind of wobbly. Yeah, he's got to get that win. But it's. just interesting, you know, like little. variations in someone's gate. You could. see it. Oh, look at him. This is why I think I'm. so excited about what's going on right. now with MMA with guys working on this. crazy footwork like the Dwayne Lewig. like camp with the TJ Dillashaw style. footwork, Dominic Cruz's footwork, Conor.

McGregor's footwork, all motion coach. [ __ ] movement coaches. Tate Fletcher. text me the other day goes, "Hey man, you have any movement coach in LA?" I. text back, "Fuck you.". Ask about it. I went, I don't deal with. that [ __ ] Whatever you're looking. for, tell him to go to the gym. That's. [ __ ] you. He started laughing. That is. so funny. If you're an MMA fan, you. understand why that Well, that's so. funny cuz I'm guilty of it as much as. anybody, but I can't shut the [ __ ] up. about movement. Balls deep in it. Balls.

deep. I had to move that guy. Hey, bro. That guy movement coach. He was great. Oh, what's your uh background? Uh, as a. kid, I climbed on trees and played with. rocks. That's like me going, "Oh, I'm. Arctic." Oh, yeah. What's your degree? I. played with Legos as kids. Yeah, it. would have been nice if he had like a. more like detail zero background. He's. ready for zero a zero. But I think he. knows a lot. I mean, not really. Look at. that. Let's be real about it. I think he.

knows a lot about movement, propriception, some of the things he was. talking about about balance and. coordination. It didn't look like in. Carlos fight. Listen, man. I think he. won that fight anyways, but I don't. think he moved too well. I think he's. only been working with him for a short. amount of time and you know as much as I. do that new things you're going to. incorporate into like highle cage. fighting. It takes a long time to really. apply. Yeah. Let's not climb on logs. Maybe go to the gym and grapple or. something. Huh? Let's not climb. That. guy had a ponytail on. I was like, get. the [ __ ] out of here. They all look like. Someone on the underground said that.

some stealing their line. They all look. like Jesus. Why? They all have. ponytails. Whoever it is that did that. uh tweet me so I can They all have. ponytails. My the fit, you know, what's. your background? Degrees. He went, "Nah, man. I just like climbed on rocks as a. kid and uh climbed some trees. As soon. as I heard that one, as soon as I heard. that one, like, "Mom, turn that [ __ ]. off. I'm going to turn this off." Well, I was I was confused still like even at. the end like how they how they sort of. designed their protocol. I mean, what. what how he designs like what they're. going to do that day. Get the [ __ ] out.

of my face, son. It was such [ __ ]. Conor's a freak. Move all you want. Move. all you want. For everyone else, stay. the [ __ ] in the gym and work on. yourself. How can you say this if you. haven't done it? I I honestly believe. unless you've done it, you wouldn't. know. Like, okay, here's a perfect. example. You're doing yoga now. Would. you not have thought that that [ __ ] was. for housewives before you ever did it? No, son. I like that [ __ ] I like the. yoga movement. I don't go to yoga to be. like, "Listen, I'm going to be an. Andreas. Let me go do some high.".

Listen, I'm not talking about why you, as an experienced yoga person, goes to. yoga. I'm talking about your prejudice. against yoga before you ever did yoga. What was it? I didn't have any. Did I'm. openminded. [ __ ] I swear. How dare. you? I came in there with a [ __ ]. green. Look at the chakras. The chakras. are so aligned. Show us your Show us your root. You. never thought You didn't think that? You didn't think that it was way easier. than it turned out to be? Way easier or.

way harder? But is it I'm sorry. Way. harder. Well, you didn't think your. perception of it was that it was way. easier than it actually was. It was way. harder than it was harder. But in the. middle of training camp, I'm not like, "Thank God for Mrs. Downs in this yoga. Otherwise, I wouldn't move as good in. this." But there's a lot of movement in. training, right? I mean, jabbing and. moving. You're chuck full of movements. Movement. Uh, don't they have a lot of. yoga movements and movement? Yes. Yeah, there's definitely a lot of movement in. yoga. There's a lot of yoga. I need to. see a degree. I need to see some sort of. scientific. Hold on a second there.

because there's people that don't get. degrees. Like how about how about the uh. gymnastica natural that Hick and Gracie. attributes to a lot of his flexibility. and movement. Like before these movement. coaches, okay, this is what people need. to understand. Back in the [ __ ] early. 90s, Hixon was like a guy you didn't. want. He was like Candyman. He didn't. want to say his name three times. He'll. show up on your [ __ ] doorstep and. strangle you. He dude, he was the. [ __ ] of [ __ ] Slow his. heartbeat down. All he was a yogi. He's. a legit yogi. And he was a movement guy.

gymnastic natural. Exactly. It was both. he he applied like he applied fire. breath all. that breathing. But you can also man. that he did 40 years of jiu-jitsu. No. Yes. That's why he stood out from all. the Gracies. He stood out. Hicks and. Gracie. All of them will say because he. did the movie. All of them. Well, that's. one of the factors. That's the science. That's what a detective would say. Uh. oh. Maybe it's the maybe had something.

to do with that. Yeah, but here what. you're saying here too. Yes. It's not. they're not mutually exclusive. They're. not mutually exclusive. Hixon, the. reason why he was the greatest ever was. because he was the perfect storm. He was. a guy who was super smart. He was super. tough. He was a He had a warrior. mentality and he was intelligent enough. to apply a bunch of really. unconventional training modalities like. some serious yoga. That [ __ ] video of. him on the bars in Santa Monica before. he fought in Japan Valley Tudo. He's. doing balance beam [ __ ] going to a full.

split standing there on this [ __ ] bar. on the beach. He's doing all these ring. work. This is I'm not saying the. movement doesn't work. It was both. It. was both. You say it doesn't help. Do. you say it doesn't help? Like if a guy. said he's been doing movement, a guy. comes into your gym. A guy comes into. your fighter in the UFC on my list of. priorities to become a UFC champion. Hiring a movement coach who his. background is climbing on rocks and. climbing trees is not that I'm gonna. [ __ ] hire. You are correct. You are.

correct. Okay. Portal guy. Yeah. Now. he's a god. And that don't ever don't. diss him cuz I'll come at you. I will. [ __ ] you up. He's a god again. You say. anything I will sidekick the [ __ ] out of. here. Juan Lor can do but I know he has. a respect of Carlos Conid. So he's got. my respect. I enjoy talking to him and I think he. knows a lot. So I disagree with you on. that. But but I don't know if he can do. what that Eido Portal guy can do. But. we're talking about mindset moves like. like anime is not real. Joe, all I'm. saying is if you're going to dedicate.

your time to something, I don't know if. that's the way to go. Here's why I'm not. sure you're right. Guys like Richie. Martinez, we brought this up before. you. you he was a a fantastic break dancer. and the ability to manipulate his body, standing on one hand, doing the [ __ ]. full lotus, all the crazy [ __ ] that he. could do directly translated to him. almost immediately being a bad. [ __ ] in jiu-jitsu directly. ridiculously. Um, and not just athletic, but the dexterity of his one language.

informs the other. Oh, man. You're wrong. Break dancing's. movement. Why am I different? But it is. movement. This is why I'm saying you're. wrong. It's all good if it works and. help. Sign up for salsa classes. It's. all footwork. Don't you remember when. football players were taking ballet? Yes, I did it. Did you? Yeah. Why you. talking [ __ ] on salsa? Why? But why did. you take ballet? Something to do. Why. else did you.

take ballet to get this ham hawk in. these tights? And let's see what's up. Check this out, ladies. You have to wear. yoga pants and [ __ ] Yeah, you have to. wear the full dance. shoes. You got to wear a dance. I did. belly for two years. You got Why do you. have time to do all these things? Theater school. Why are you not 90? Theater school. Sorry. All this [ __ ]. you've done for 5 years. I lived in the. woods. Mushrooms. Not 90. Acting school. I have the. experience of a 90. In act in acting. school, you have to take ballet. Acting.

school, you must take ballet. And you. have to perform. [ __ ] you. Okay. That's. like going to painting school and. learning how to like uh play video. games. They're not related. Let me tell. you something right now, and I'm being. dead serious. I was a beautiful dancer. Beautiful ballet. I bet you were, dude. We did ballet. I used to do that video. That video you did was just hilarious of. uh not unconventional dancer. What was. the name of it? Um what the [ __ ] was. that video that you did that where I was. at [ __ ] Where I No, you had this crazy. dance video that you made. I can't. remember. God damn it. It was hilarious.

You said I just did this thing. Take a. look at it. And I remember I took it. home. was back when people had actually. had DVDs. Yes. And it was Brian Dancing. What the [ __ ] was it? Wasn't. unconventional dancer. It's not the word. unconventional. Like in [ __ ] Unorthodox. dancer. No, no, no, no, no. Inappropriate dancer. Yes, I. think it was a sketch that he did. It. was ridiculous. It was ridiculous. A guy. just like it's okay to dance on a dance. floor. Agreed. Right. We all agree. As. long as you step into this arena and. you're on the hardwoods, we agree you're. allowed to get ridiculous. But you can't.

do that [ __ ] when you're waiting in line. to rent a car. And and Bryant's. character. Was that what was that? I. think I don't even remember. I just. remember there was some inappropriate. dancer. Yeah. When I slapped the [ __ ]. when I slapped that Bob thing and I. would jump out and that sounds. hilarious. I did all kinds of weird. stuff like that. Dude, we were doing. ballet and then about 2 days into it, someone's like, "Uh, we should probably. go catch some footballs." Yeah. No [ __ ]. No [ __ ] And that's where all this. movement and dance and stuff. one one. language informs the other. But don't.

you think lunges are essentially in a. lot of ways, especially dumbbell lunges. are very much a movement exercise cuz. it's all about balance and rigidity and. keeping your core straight. Like there's. something about like double dumbbell. lunges, things along those lines. That's. they're you help you. They. phys like like like if you're going to. apply like an explosive movement to a. martial art, there's no doubt about. lifting weights helps, right? No doubt. about it. No doubt about it. like. lifting weights. If there was no weight. restrictions, you could do whatever you. wanted and lift as much weight as you.

wanted. There's a big difference between. 170 and 200, you know? I mean, there's. just a big difference. You get like way. stronger. If you get way more explosive, you get it's beneficial in an applied. situation, right? Agreed. That's. movement. Yeah. That's the It's not much. different. It's like you're talking. about movement with weights or movement. with Muay Thai. Like people there's a. lot of people that say training in Muay. Thai help their jiu-jitsu. I believe it. It makes sense. But but I mean the kind. of [ __ ] you have to do, the explosions. you have to do in Muay Thai, that's a. movement, too. I would also say Cummings.

with gymnastics. I got a movement for. you. I did gymnastics, too. What leads what leads one person like. with Hixon? What leads him into the. other disciplines is that mindset that. that comprehensive mindset constantly. get better. His foundation is so [ __ ]. good. Insane. But also, he was a student. of the great Japanese samurai. Correct. Their philosophy. So I'm sure he read. the book of five rings and one of the. things about the book of five rings that. it emphasized was like taking in all.

sorts of different be soft like taking. calligraphy do painting because stay. flexible and the reason for that if you. look at any great innovator they started. with one discipline they started with. one discipline and then they when they. studied other disciplines they were able. to appropriate those disciplines and. come up with a new style. You don't you. don't revolutionize a new style by. studying that style. You you branch out. A young Hixon might be might beat Alan. Joan. A. young good. Well, he's got he's also.

he's from the jungle essentially. He's. you know from South. America and he would imagine twist head. Oh yeah. Have a real problem with that. A real problem with that. You imagine. the [ __ ] Hixon was getting. Oh my god. Please bring him up. I'd like to look at. this. He must have been getting. supermodels left. Let's let's again. let's like let's not bring up specific. instance. I think your uh jiu-jitsu. helps your music and I think your music. helps your jiu-jitsu. And I think as. your jiu-jitsu's gotten better, your. music's gotten better. And as your.

music's gotten better, your jiu-jitsu's. gotten better. I think if you hire. coach, I think they're all How dare if. you hire a movie coach, you be red hot. jelly rappers. I think you're when you. get great at things like especially like. you specifically, you're a guy who like. one of the best things about you. creating 10th planet jiu-jitsu. Ever. since I've known you, like if you have. an idea in your mind, like there's a. point you have to get to, like, okay, there's a spot over there you got to get. to, you have this crazy tunnel vision. Well, you'll figure out unconventional. paths to get to a point. Like you you. can block out a lot of like external.

[ __ ] that a lot of other people don't, you know, they can't block out. They. can't f they can't like uh tune in to. the finish line the way you can. It's. really interesting to see because I. think that applies to your music as. well. I think it applies to everything. you do. And I think it comes for a lot. of us. I think it comes from like some. [ __ ] up place where you didn't get. enough when you were a child. And then. enough attention or what? Anything. Love, attention, uh, praise, friendship, camaraderie, changing. Also, what's. really important is like I said this to. him the other day. I go, "Dude, you.

know, he says don't spar." You know why. I spar? Because it terrifies me. No, I'm. not good at spar. How did you turn this. into you when I was I'm trying I'm. trying to explain to No, no. What I'm. saying is that No, listen listen. No, no. This is the point I'm making. Listen. When you do something that that. you're afraid of or that puts you makes. you uncomfortable, I end up writing. I. think I think it like when you do. another discipline that maybe you're not. even good at that scares you, it'll open. up channels in your original discipline. It'll jumble your brain so you come at. things in a different way. If you stay.

comfortable in in stuff, you're you're. most likely, if you're in a creative. field, it's harder to branch out and. become more creative. you do things. you're not that good at that maybe. you're scared of that you're that that. cause you to stretch in other areas and. this is the this is the argument for. movement coaches when you do things. you're not that good at put you in in. your in your step out of your comfort. zone you'll probably get better at your. original better be good at everything. else before you hire a movement coach. with that being said being openminded I. think the four of us should get a time. share [ __ ] where just four dudes I.

don't know that let's do it I think. that's what we. have to podcast every day. Listen, after. all of our chicks get sick of our. [ __ ] let's just get a fat house in. the hills and do that. Have a moving. coach every day. Just have a big house. with four branches where, you know, we. don't have to necessarily hear each. other. We just meet in the kitchen. You. know what I'm saying? And just live live. like men. Don't live like these [ __ ]. that we've become trapped in this world. This world of this is when we get to be. free. We could be free like this all the.

time. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Gibson at the end of. Bravehearted. That's what I'm saying. Oven St. Pew Poo Pewision. Good dude. With a broke foot whips. I. wonder I wonder what the actual injury. was. OSP baby. Probably just a sprain. He looks like he's walking. Okay. Yeah, he looks like he's walking okay. He's a. tough one. Anderson Silva. Anderson. Silva. What do you think of that fight? Anderson. Um it's a very good fight at. this time in both their careers. It. becomes interesting. Whereas like. Anderson when he was dominating when he.

was like like right after he smashed. Chailson in the second fight you would. think like that's a that's a tough fight. for Bisping Anderson's just in the. matrix but Anderson comes off of you. know like psychologically there's two. brutal losses in a row. One a loss for. sure what a catastrophic injury then he. just fell off. Yeah. Then he gets by. Nick Diaz but he gets humiliated like. Nick Diaz lies on his back and puts his. hands on his head and mocks him. He's. talking to him. He's calling him a. [ __ ] Dude, Nick Diaz was super.

respectful right up until the moment. they got in that cage. And then he was. Nick Diaz. Yeah, it was back on. He's. never [ __ ] It's like that old fable. about the scorpion and the frog. The. frog wants to get across the pond and. the scorpion says or the scorpion wants. to get across the frog uh the pond and. the frog uh is in the water and the. scorpion says, "Let me ride on your. back." And uh the frog says, "I won't do. that. If I do that, you'll sting me." He. goes, "Well, if I did that, we would. both die. I'm not stupid." So the. scorpion rides on the frog's back and.

halfway across the water, he stings him. And the frog's like, "What the fuck?". And the scorpion's like, "Sorry, it's in. my nature." Yeah. Damn, dog. What kind. of childhood stories did you have? I. never heard this. That's a famous story. They also use it. They also use it. They. also use it in connection with the with. when he stings him and the guy the. What's that? I don't know. The scorpion. That's a. great That's a great allegory. Well, the. lural Red Riding Hood was once upon a. time when you put your food in the you. set your children in the woods and you.

legitimately had to worry about them get. eaten by wolves like today. What was the. moral of this story? These [ __ ]. veans is this. It's vegans are [ __ ]. That's that's the story. These. [ __ ] that want wolves. everywhere if we don't have streets. because stay the [ __ ] out of the woods. Stay out of the woods. Stay out of the. woods. There's a [ __ ] wolf out eat. you. Yesol. And don't trust strangers. actually. Yes, that's rule number new. rule. Ely for sure because the person. inside the house that pretended to be. his grandmother. But the the reason why. they were always wolves whether it was. Little Red Riding Hood or Three Little.

Pigs, it was always wolves. It's cuz. wolves legitimately ate a lot of [ __ ]. people. And people seem to have forgot. about that now where all these [ __ ]. like we need to bring back the wolf. We. need to make sure the wolves are like. wolves will kill everyone. You know, and. they don't eat what they eat some of. what they kill. Oh my god. Wolves are so. preydriven that they will kill whole. herds of elk and not eat half the meat. I'll slap the [ __ ] But dude, like. German German fairy tales like Hansel. and Gretle, what happens? A lady, an old.

lady takes them and she's a witch. She. puts them in a cage and starts feeding. them to what? Plump them up so she can. eat them. Moral of the story, don't. trust even old ladies. The Germans are. like, "You're a stranger. Sorry." Well, also let's be honest about like a long. time ago, a thousand years ago in rural. areas where food was scarce and people. had suffered through a. lifetime abuse and chaos and seeing. murders and seeing assault and rape and.

constant just the programming of a. person. How much cannibalism was going. on back then? A lot. A lot. According to. Steve Reanella, like in this country, I. mean, Steve, we were talking about the. other day with the the Native Americans, the Nez Purse. Steve Reanella has the. best Native American stories. He's a. legit scholar almost. I mean, I don't. think he would call himself that, but. he's incredibly knowledgeable. Native. American history and like what the. Neespur Indians did in the in the in the. the like the Great Lakes area. A lot of.

cannibalism, man. A lot. They file their. teeth down. What if that was a crazy guy. writing the history, you know? No. Even. back the missionary was [ __ ]. There's a lot of documented evidence. What if that all was like, "Yeah, we got. this from an Indian. They were. cannibals. So, we have to kill them all. cuz they're cannibals. Look, we got. stories. By the way, any might be on to. something. We got stories to eat each. other. They're going to eat you. Meanwhile, they're all Americans. Meanwhile, they're hippies. They were. they were human beings just like all of. us. They were human beings just like all. of us. They weren't any more noble. They. were no more noble than anybody else.

They were good people and bad people. They were just as violent as Hey, the. most violent people arguably could be. could be white people. Look what the. Germans did. I mean, [ __ ] white. people, man. Well, I think also like. when you're dealing with people in the. Great Lakes states, speaking of [ __ ]. white people, that's a horrific. knockout, man. The Roy Nelson Minotauro. knockout. But um you know, those people. are living in a horrible horrible. climate like the the Great Lakes before. the invention of heat and Oh, it must. have been so fun. Yeah. No cars. Yeah. I.

mean, people got desperado. Like, you. know, we know about the Donner party in. Colorado. They got trapped in the. mountains. They had to eat each other. That [ __ ] probably happened all the time. in the Great Lakes. They just didn't. talk about it. You're talking about 15. below zero recently, right? I wonder. what part you eat first. Probably the. legs or ass. Just go right to the. [ __ ] Get the worst part first. For. you, I take the chest aggressive. Just. say, listen, worst case scenario, I'm. eating someone's [ __ ] I'm going to. scoop it out with a sharp. That's the. last thing you eat. I'm going to file a. spoon with a with a [ __ ] I'm not even. going to pass on the [ __ ] You don't. even want to like their [ __ ] you have to.

hold on to. You might need to eat their. [ __ ] I would eat their balls and their. dick. And you know why? We need that. dick first. You know why? Because. testosterone. Because that's what the. raccoons and the squirrels go after. first. There's a reason. Think about. that. Testoster. That's how wolves determine. who's the alpha. The alpha gets to eat. the liver. That's why there was a guy. Yeah. There was a guy who did a uh a. whole um this whole like I saw he did a. documentary where he lived with wolves. and he he lived amongst them and he had. to fake a kill. He would have a kill.

there and he would pack a liver inside. of them and he would pull the liver out. and he'd eat it in front of them and he. had to eat it in front of them and then. he would let them eat. But he No, no, no, no, no. There's [ __ ] video. It's. terrifying. It's [ __ ] terrifying. No, here's here's the thing. What happened? He had a a farm nearby that was having. problems with wolves. And this guy was a. wolf scientist. And so he would uh go. there with these big gigantic speakers. that play wolf sounds cuz he had to. scare off this one pack of wolves with a. new pack of wolves that had invaded. And.

he had to make it he had to make it. scary enough so these wolves backed off. It's all on video. The scary thing is. when the alpha So here's the thing. He. came back. The guy came back after a. month and the the there was a new wolf. had taken over and so the new wolf. wanted to kill him. So he had a whimper. He had a whimper in front of this wolf. So he was recognized as the the old. alpha and to avoid being killed, which. is standard. It's normal. Like a wolf. would challenge and they would fight to. the death and the new alpha would kill. the or try to kill the old alpha. He.

came that close to dying. The thing was. in his face growling. Oh yeah. Human. involved in all that [ __ ] [ __ ] with. the thing with the alpha wolf. It tastes. good. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. There's a whole. documentary on it. It's called Living. with Wolves I think. Here's the thing. about it, man. They don't understand. that he's unusual because they've been. with him since he they were a baby. See, the whole like the only way that works. he didn't just walk in. It's a gigantic. wildlife preserve. And this guy lives in. the wildlife preserve with these wolves. Yes. For their whole life. So, they've.

been with him since he was, you know, like four or five years ago. But they're. [ __ ] grown, dangerous ass wolves now. Holy [ __ ] It's amazing. You have to. What's it called? Find it, Jamie. Is it. called Living with Wolves? Netflix. It's. probably on that. I watch living with. wolves. I watched it. I think I. originally I thought you were saying. some guy came in and said, "Check this. out. I'm gonna fix this wolf problem.". I'm like, "This has got some bullshit.". Aubrey mentioned to me some dude who was. living with the grizzly bears. Oh yeah,

man. He died. Yeah. Got [ __ ] up by the. bears. They ate him. And he text Aubrey. uh uh like a what am I confusing people? Confusing people. Grizzly man. Best one. of the best documentaries ever. It's a. Warner Herszog documentary. I'm not talking about that guy. Oh, there's another guy that lives with. bears. Yeah. Yeah. And he was like the. real aggressive today and then the thing. ate his [ __ ] that like the next day. Well, there was one bear that they used. on a movie they used on like some. football movie. You're talking about. Bart the bear. Yeah, that bear that guy.

on 12. Yeah. No, no reason. No [ __ ] The. guy was just standing there doing like. they were doing some sort of drill. together and the bear just decided to. tear his throat apart. But of course, bears are going to do bear [ __ ]. Agree with you. What did you think was I. talked to a trainer with bears. I talked. to this trainer with bears. He said, "Well, bears will warn you about 3. minutes before they're if they're having. a bad day, you got to step off." I go, "What do they do?" They go, he goes, "They start clicking their jaw." When a. bear starts when a grizzly starts. clicking his jaw, it's time for you to. stop training. And I was like, "All. right." He's he trains big cats. Look at.

this. They will warn you. What is this? Is this the same guy? Dude, those are. wild. No. No. This isn't the same guy, Jamie. No, this isn't the scientist. The. scientist was a younger guy, but this is. another guy. Yeah, I think that guy's living with. wild wolves. Yeah, that guy's Yeah, Wernner Herzog. Werner Herszog. He like. chills with him. No, it's not Warner. Herszog. Wer Hzog grizzly man. This. guy's name is Wernner Fr or something. like that. Um, it was a different guy. and uh it was I'm I'm really pretty.

positive it was a younger guy. Oh [ __ ]. I'm going to get all into this now, man. Man, I got amazing. It's amazing. They. have a really sophisticated social. system. Yeah, they do. I don't know why. I just You into lately big time. Like as. if I just Yeah, they do. Anyway, keep. going. Did you Did you end up seeing Making a. Murderer and all that? I still haven't. seen it. God damn it, Joyce. You still. haven't seen it? I Yeah, I'm a rebel, bro. Yeah, you're a wild talk [ __ ] to. me. I'll [ __ ] wait. But you walk. wolves and bears balls.

deep with that, man. I'm obsessed with. wildlife. Absolutely [ __ ] obsessed. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed with Have you. seen that uh Netflix documentary about. India and the Ganges River? No. What's. it called, dude? It's called like wild. and India, but it's on Netflix. The. Ganges River is insane. There's It comes. from No, but but listen, it's not that. dirt. This is the crazy part about it is. all that that river comes from the. Himalayas. All the ice and the. glaciers. Something like that on Netflix.

about India. But the part about the. Ganges River, it's a magical [ __ ]. river. They they put dead they burn dead. bodies in there. They throw trash, sewage, everything. But there's. something they've done. It's called. wildest wildest. Yes. Yes. There's. something about that water has so much. mineral. It's uh composition that it. it's like an antibacterial water. It. kills all the the bacteria and the. pathogens. They've according to this. documentary that could be full of [ __ ].

on Netflix. But they're saying they're. saying that it's so there there's so. much sewage goes into there, but it. cleanses itself. You can still drink it. You can be down the river, people still. drink it. That's not true. Cuz my friend. with jumped in and had an earachche for. 2 years, dude. Okay, dude. I said according to. this documentary, according to some white-on-white crime. right now. Do you remember my uh my bit. about the Sunderband? This going to be. fast. The Thunderbands is no joke, huh? Do you remember that bit I used to have, Eddie, about the guy who's they got. killed in a boat? There was a boat.

There was five with the tigers. Yeah. They swam out to the boat and killed. these guys individually, one by one, and. dragged him back to the shore. The. tigers swam out to the boat three times. I remember that. You told me that. This. documentary talks about that that they. couldn't get out of the way. That's the. only spot on the world where tigers. actively hunt humans. They love the. taste of humans often. Well, they say. people, the. super don't go to India. Oh, I ain't. going. But they got great documentaries. about it. Yeah, I'll watch that [ __ ]. Well, they've killed literally hundreds.

of thousands of people over the last. hundred years. Hundreds of thousands. Over the last hundred years. Tigers. Yeah, they have some some nutty number. like way to go. Over the last 200 years, I think the number is like 300,000. I I. quoted the number like honestly and. realistically in my comedy special that. was uh in Talking Monkeys in space. They. they [ __ ] killed they killed this. guy, dragged him to shore, and then. jumped back in the water. killed another. guy, dragged him to shore, jumped back. in the water, killed another. guy. They couldn't swim away. These.

things are so fast. They can swim faster. than five guys could row a boat at full. speed. There's a great book. There's a. great book called The Maners of Kuman. Read the managers of the [ __ ] Jason, dude, they crocodiles don't [ __ ] with. them. Crocodiles don't [ __ ] with tigers. Ro Schultz's running from Roy Nelson. like he's a tiger right now. Well, Roy. Nelson is a dangerous dude, dude. Roy. Nelson throws [ __ ] hammers. You want. to talk about a guy who's always been. known as a jiu-jitsu guy? He throws. [ __ ] fire. Eddie and I knew Roy.

Nelson back when he was just big. country. Everybody called him big. country and he's a jiu-jitsu guy. Back in Jesus, that [ __ ] haymaker. back in the Mark Layman days. Yeah. Now, now are these guys going to get a. Versace contract? Yes. Um, he should. If. Versace was [ __ ] smart, they would. try to get in on that chubby band. dollars for real. Is that dad [ __ ]. Why? Why? Why does everybody have to be. beautiful? Roy Nelson in a [ __ ] fat. suit with a cigar in his hand. He's sick. and his wife on his arm hanging out.

Listen, people love that guy. I really. believe absolutely 100% that he's like. undermarketed by a lot of companies. Like companies should scoop that guy up. Schlitz burglar a lot of people moleer. [ __ ] but not even as a joke like that. but just like a good man [ __ ] man he. has the most knockout bonuses in UFC. history for heavyweight yeah he's a. [ __ ] man he's an animal look at. Roshaw he has a grown man running from.

him yeah I mean this [ __ ] throws. hammers do you remember when he knocked. out Mitriion Jesus Christ dude hammers. he knocked out no Gera like he was a. [ __ ] paper cutout. Is he the hardest. guy that's ever hit you? Yes. Jesus Christ. He's Damn. Look at Roshaw. Ro can take it. He's like, "Fuck you, bitch." Roshaw's about to get knocked. out. I think Roshaw is an elite. wrestler, right? Yeah. Oklahoma State.

National Champ, but heavyweight. heavyweight national champ. It's similar. to sumo wrestling. I hate to be shitty about it, but it. really is. Really? Really? Yeah. Until. Brock Lesnar's in your division. Yeah, bro. That was 20 years ago. I'm talking. about now with the big old fat boys. What's the difference between now and. then? Like if Brock Lesnar was around. today, is it. possib There's no Brocks out there. anymore? I don't know. What's happening? You follow college wrestling? I I watch. the finals every year. He's He's a.

freak. He's a silver He's a blonde. silver. Is it Is it evolution? Are we. seeing the last of the Viking DNA? Cuz. he is a regularized wife. guys are going. straight emo now. Yeah, probably. Well, he has a regular sized wife. I'm sure. his children would be [ __ ] gigantic, but Well, his wife was a pro wrestler, right? She was a wife. She was a She was. She was Sable and she was [ __ ] fine. Beautiful. Beautiful. He did well. He. did well for himself. I used to jack off. to middle school. How dare you say that. about his wife. No, it's a good thing.

You son of a [ __ ] Hey, bring it. You. don't do [ __ ] You fake fighting. Oh, how dare. you, dude. If you met him in an alley, he's like one of the worst people you. could run into for Dude, he'd rape me. A. brief exchange. Let's be real. He'd rape. me and I'd have to do something. I'd. have to jump on his back. Don't, bro. I'd have to pull him aside and say, "Listen, just Okay, perfect. His kids are going. to be freaks. His kids will probably. still be." So, when his kids grow to be. about 18 years old, we'll start getting. nervous again. But until then,

getting nervous again. There's no. pleasures out there right now. She's. beautiful. Look at that. Well, who was. that dude that just fought that. kickboxer dude? Um, uh, black gentleman. from from was he from Africa in the UFC? Yeah, you're talking about the dude from. France. From France. That's right. He. was like a a shittier looking Czech. Congo with dreads. A nasty power. Nasty. power. For sure. Take him down. Yeah. Well, he got taken down the first round. Who was that? Jamie. Who was that?

Jamie. Sable though was the hottest. I. haven't I haven't talked about her in. forever. Sable. Okay. If you can get like Gabby. Garcia and Shane Carwin to have a kid. Good lordy, Miss Clott. What would we. have? What would we have? Who again kind. of Shane Carwin and Gabby Garcia? Oh. [ __ ] Oh [ __ ] You got a woman who's. 6'4. Are you periscoping? You [ __ ] No. Periscope. What are you doing? I don't. have periscope. He doesn't know what a. Periscope is. He has no idea. Shane. Carwin and Gabby Garcia have a baby. You.

think that's a No. No. No. Ultimate. super athlete. No, bro. [ __ ] that noise. How dare you? No. No. Check this out. Shane Carwin and Serena Williams. Oh, you're right. You're right. Interracial. as well. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. There's just a. lot of uh emotional power to both sides. combining together in one furious union. Send that kid to the hood. Just send it. to the hood. No, you don't make them. rich and happy. Oh, no. You send him. just They might not make it out of. there, though. No, they'll figure it. out. Oh, I don't know, man. That's a. risk.

You have to make more than one. You have. to do it. How ridiculous do we get on. this [ __ ] podcast is. ridiculous as we should be. What was. that movie? Remember that guy? Was it. Mask? The guy who was like born with a. deformity. Talking about with Sher. Where's Shar? That's Mask. What' you say? The bear guy. The bear. guy. Meet Sulu the bear man. Oh, okay. It's a new bear guy. And his face got. ripped off, too. Maybe. Did he get. killed? Oh, boy. Do you know, Jamie, or.

you guessing? They kind of deserve it, though. Yeah. Find out if you got. killed. It looks like the bear. Don't. get the bear watermelon, huh? Well, here's the thing about bears, man. Bears. can be a lot like dogs if they're like. really taken care of. If you feed them. and love them, like people have lived. with bears where they like swim with. bears, but you got to be with them from. the time they're a baby. They can never. never be feral. And you you got to be. able to raise them and give them love. So, they they sort of have to um. identify with you. They have to imprint.

they but they imprint on you, but. they're like a dog in a lot of ways. I. agree with you. It's always a risk. because you're dealing with something. that like one generation removed was. completely wild. Like you could easily. have a grizzly bear where you your the. mother grizzly bear had to fight for its. life against a mountain lion that was. trying to kill its baby. You know, that's totally possible. And then here. it is like one generation later, you got. the pup and it's living in your house. You got this cub. I'd rather chill with. those grizzly bears than the one some of. those chimpanzees and [ __ ] in my house.

Yeah, it's good call. Chimpanzees might. decide to [ __ ] you. [ __ ] you do. At least the beer is just. going to rip my throat out. Just [ __ ]. hold. Yeah, that chimp wants to bust a. nut in my ass. He's going to do it. You. know, if you're on the verge of suicide, if you want to commit suicide, then that. might be a good idea. You know what? Since you're going to kill yourself, why. not go [ __ ] live with lions? That's. what I'm saying, Eddie. You know what I. mean? See what happens. And then if they. kill you, whatever. You were going to. kill yourself anyways. That's a guy in. South Africa lives with 21 lions and.

wrestles with himself. Yeah, might as. well. Good move. Good luck. Yeah, that's. going to turn out great. Yeah, that. works out. Are you suicidal? Call this. number now. Guys, dudes will do whatever. they can to separate themselves from the. pack. Dude, they scientists that are. like they want to gain data that like. you got to you got to be suicidal to go. into those [ __ ] dens. Did. Roshaw catch Roy? Is that what you Oh, he fell. He slipped. I slipped. I'm. surprised you're not trying. I do that. all the time and I get embarrassed when. I like I'll go oh and something won't. land and I'm I'm a professional. Like.

I'm at the fights calling the fight and. someone throws a head kick and it. doesn't land but it like looks like it's. going to land but at the last minute it. gets I'm like oh my god. But it's. genuine. I swear to God folks I swear to. God slip when I [ __ ] when I yell like. I don't I don't do that accidentally. I. mean I don't do that uh artificially. This looks like a good ass. These guys. look like they're completely related. Yeah. Well, they're definitely the same. brothers. They're the exact same. species. Exact same species. This isn't.

confusing at all. You know, good thing. he has a beard cuz I wouldn't I wouldn't. I'd be like, huh? Remember when Keith. Hackne fought Emanuel Yarborough? You're. like, do I You're like, okay, what's. going on here? These things these things. are so not similar in their size. These. two individual fit. They both fit. These. two individual Roshaw looks like a. supermodel version of the mask, right? That's what you were going to say. Supermodel version. Nothing sacred.

Nothing sacred here. Come on. How is that talking [ __ ] I said you. look like a supermodel. Oh my god. Of the guy from the share. show. This is my favorite show of all. time. Yes. Yes. Of the share show. He. said it's Eddie. Eddie. God damn it. Eddie. Eddie. Eddie. Eddie. Look. Damn. it, Eddie. Look. Look. That's terrible. That's probably the greatest thing I've. ever heard. The supermodel. All right. Oh, that's so funny. I'm not talking about a joke in Zuland.

I'm talking about like Alan Dub. It's. his better looking. Let me say something, man. Your joke is. so shaken. It's going to cost Roy Nelson. this fight. The karma of your joke is. so it's a compliment. You might have. [ __ ] over Roy Nelson. It's a. compliment. Here's a trivia question. Who was the actor who played him? He's. the That's a real dude. Come on, man. That's not makeup. That's a real dude. He passed away. No. I thought that was. Eric. No, no, no, no, no. It's Eric. Stoultz. No, no. That's Eric Stoultz. Yeah. God damn it, Bren. Are you sure?

God damn it, Brennon. How bad did that. make you feel? I was like, "Oh, no. No. I knew it was Eric Stoultz." Here's a. Here's a little jiu-jitsu trivia. Powder. Remember that dude? Sean. Patrick Black in Jiu-Jitsu. Legit black. belt under Shawn Williams. Yeah, Shawn. Williams. Henel Gracie black belt. legit. Did Powder do anything after. Powder? Well, here's the deal, dude. I. don't The guy who the guy who directed. Powder was a guy who is like there was. some controversy about some alleged. child molestation charges, which made.

Powder a really weird movie because. Powder was kind of like uh like a. Nambble love story to a lot of people. There was a whole conspiracy about that. Like that guy got in trouble. the guy. who direct like not it wasn't a little. thing like he got in like real criminal. trouble. I do not remember holy [ __ ] I. do not remember the specifics on that. I. don't think there is but. there's find out Jamie [ __ ] slipping.

here. Hold on a second. Here we go. Barry Crims was one talking about it. I. believe get on the case Netflix. Barry. Crims was he talking about that? He was. talking about AOL. Barry Crims was. talking about AOL. How child molesters. were selling things through AOL. But. Barry Crims did comment about that guy. on a Was it on a podcast or was it on. Twitter? I thought that's how I heard. about it was maybe you might be right. You might be right. I had known about it. before that. I'd read a art there was a. a big article that was about it I want. to say like two years ago, but uh yeah, Barry, of course, if you don't know who.

Barry Crims is, he's a Boston comedy. legend and he had a Bobcat Gwe did a. documentary called Call Me Lucky and. it's about his him getting molested when. he was a kid. It's horrific, man. He was. four years old. He was four years old. and his babysitter's boyfriend would. [ __ ] him. God damn. Why'd you bring the podcast. down like this, dude? You got to see it. Call me Call Me Lucky. It's an amazing. Here it is. Here's the guy. Look at. this. Victor Salva loves terrorizing. semi- naked youth. No [ __ ] But they're.

semi naked. Don't be [ __ ] That's from. 2012 from. Vice. Take your shirt off. Ready? Boom. It could be worse. What do you mean. terrorizing? Semi sounds like bottoms. on, tops off. Exactly. Take your pants. off, move around, and I might kick you. I don't know. I might. Damn. Royy's. going for the straight kill now. Three. for three. This Roy had a beard before. it was cool. People think he's a. hipster. Went for a taked down. Did not. get it. Royy's wrestling's underrated.

Look what he did to Barnett that time. Well, he has a loss on his record that I. think is one of the most unfair standups. ever against Arloski. side control. working on a kamura kamura. He had the. kamura. He has a full double wrist lock. He has the double wrist lock. He doesn't. have the lock, right? Cuz he has to get. it locked turned behind the back on a. strong guy. So kamura is an interesting. move because Marcelo Garcia doesn't like. to do it cuz he thinks it's a strong man. move. He doesn't he doesn't incorporate. it. He's all about chokes. He's all. about whatever he does has to work on. everybody. What do you think about that?

Nothing wrong with that at all. That's a. weird way to but there's uh he he you. know he doesn't believe in any kind of. chokes with armen like arm triangles or. aka side choke or darces or Japanese. necktie but I understand I understand. really I totally understand that hey. [ __ ] if you only focus you take that. time everybody has the same amount of. time to drill everyone has the same time. everyone has 24 hours in a day everyone. has a life everyone everyone has the. same [ __ ] time generally what.

are you going to do with that block. every day. When you break it all down, what are you going to do with that. block? If you say, "Why don't you save. all that time for [ __ ] that works on the. big guys? If it works on the big guys, it's going to work on the small guys. So, let's just work on that." There's. nothing wrong with that at [ __ ]. all. That's brilliant. That's genius. Me. personally, I like working on everything. that works on guys that have like 15 lbs. on you. You know what I mean? because. you're going to be rolling a lot with.

guys that are your your size and maybe. as long as it works on guys that have a. little weight on you. Yeah, I'm into. those moves. To me, that's a legit move. If it works on a guy that's around your. size at a high level, I want that move. in my character. Hel used to talk about. that. He would work on chokes. He said. chokes always work whereas other stuff. There's a difference between there's a. difference between arm chokes like. Darces, Japanese neck ties, arm and. guillotines, and then straight neck. chokes like Marcelotines and all these. weird little [ __ ] things like.

Rothwell on on Barnett. There's all. these ninja chokes and [ __ ] There's. about 23 [ __ ] ways to squeeze a. neck. Yeah. To make a [ __ ] tat. Yeah. You know what I mean? So, all. those take special time to get good at. Just because you're good at one of the. 23 makes it has nothing to do with are. you good at this one or are you good at. that one. You got to spend the same. amount of time on that [ __ ] It might. give you a little boost. If you're. really good at this one, then you're. really you'll get really good at this.

one quicker than a guy who's not good at. that one, but generally you got to spend. time in all these chokes to master them. Eddie, let me ask this before I forget. Who was that? There was one choke that I. saw only once in the UFC. It was a choke. like almost similar to a go plata by a. kid who was a Tiger Shman student. Nick. Nick something or another. Was he in the. UFC? Yes. He had some crazy choke and he. said that he invented it while it was. going on. He's like I invented it in the. fight. Um um I have no idea what that.

is. You know what I'm talking about. I. know what I'm talking about, but I don't. I couldn't show you. Yeah, I remember. Guys show me techniques all the goddamn. time and I'm like [ __ ] I should have. videotaped that cuz that shit's gone. is. videotape that is a. guy videotape new [ __ ] There it is. Nick Pace. Yeah, Nick Pace. He did some. crazy. Let's see. See if you can find. the submission cuz it was some weird leg. submission. I couldn't show you. I Well, I remember it was It had something to do. with a shin across the neck.

It was a neck. It was a choke. It was. some weird choke that had to do with. some weird like omlata type setup. and. he wound up in some position with his. his shin underneath this guy's choke. underneath this guy's neck in an. unconventional way that I don't. necessarily remember. I'd have to see it. again, but I remember saying, "Have you. done that before?" And he said, "Um, that was the first time he had ever did. it." Is there is there a huge difference. between guys? Is there a huge difference. between really good guys now and 10. years ago? Oh, [ __ ] Jiu-Jitsu wise, like all different techniques. That's. like That's like saying is there a.

difference in standup comedy now in. general as like in the 80s? Come on. in. the 80s of his. guard, right? You know, same thing. Same. won that fight. Hey, Eddie, look up. Look up behind you. That's the the. choke. Nick Pace going to show us. Why. does it look so crappy, Jamie? Oh [ __ ]. See, look at this. He grabs it like. this. He throws the leg over the neck. and he shoots under like this and he. grabs his ankle. Look at this. That's. gun show control. It's called gun show. But he chokes him from here. Yep. Yep. I.

got a guy Benetti who does this [ __ ]. Yeah. So all the time. he came up with this on the fly in the. UFC. Damn. And um now he calls it the. pace joke. I I don't That guy's hair is. great. Is that Louis G? Well, that's legit. You. always say it's really legit. I got a. guy maybe not that. I got a guy whose. style is based off. You just said it. looks nice. [ __ ] But I'm being show. control. There's guys that spend a lot. of time. That's a That's an atomic.

green. Those guys, Tiger Schulman, for a. lot of people don't know, those guys. were a giant karate chain in um the East. Coast. You see him in New York all the. time. Like they didn't think of him as. legit like necessarily because they. thought well most giant karate schools. aren't legit. However, they are legit. I. mean, think Hall, this [ __ ] kid Nick. Pace came from there. Wow. Um that guy. who won last Frankie Rivera, the guy who. won last week against uh Yuri Alcantara, he's from there. Jimmy Rivera. Jimmy.

Rivera. There's a lot of [ __ ] really. highlevel guys from Tyreek Shman's. Tiger Schman Uri Hall is look his. kickbox or his standup is ridiculous. Like his karate skills [ __ ]. ridiculous. That that spinning back kick. to the face that he caught Gaygard with. he's nasty. That's how Tiger Schulman, man. It's amazing. And this Nick Pace. kid is like they they were one of the. few like bigname schools that was a. whole chain that became like a real. legit gym. That's cool. Karate chain.

there were uh the one karate chain. Maybe there's others that did it. I'm. sure there are. But Tiger Shman's was a. straight dominant karate chain. And when. they saw MMA unfold, they were like, "Okay, we need some jiu-jitsu. We need. some of that. We need some of that." So. Tiger Shelman is uh open-minded, modern. The other way to look at it also is they. didn't stay. The other way to look at is. you have that big a school, there always. going to be some superstars who are. going to come through. No, no, no. It's. their training is really good. It's not. just that they evolved when most other.

mart martial arts most other traditional. martial arts associations didn't evolve. Tiger Shman's was all about evolution. Most most of the traditional martial. arts associations. are uh not into evolving because the. people at the top they're [ __ ] lazy. and they don't want to cuz they would. have to learn all this new [ __ ] They. don't want to do it. Who does this? Who. gets on top of a top row, pulls his. shirt up and rubs his home after it's. tough after a decision? Stipe Mio chick.

Stipe got that new girl. Hey, easy girl, dude. God damn it. It's the wine. We got. that big handsome guy. He's a handsome. guy. I got Stipe as a very handsome guy. Got that diaper. Come on, man. We know. 20 minutes on Alan Jabon and you're. going to talk about is a handsome guy. Handsome. Let's be honest. This is uh. this has been one of the least heavy. fight companions ever. Ever. We have. barely paid attention to these fights. I. tried Conor McGregor is bigger than.

this. The gayest one ever. No, definitely. We've been gay. Have we been. gayer? Whenever Brian's here, it gets in. at least somewhat. The dream about your. boyfriend. I could hear that over and. over again and over. Have you had. another dream? Was that the only dream? That was the only one. So far, the only. dream. I can't wait for Connor dos. What. do you think about Conor's bigger than. Dosanto? How about that? How about How. about Dana saying that Conor has what's. up with that? Dana didn't say that. No, he didn't. Oh, he didn't. No. Oh, he.

didn't. Okay. because that's what it. says in I have a hard time I have a hard. time I think what he said was I have a. hard time seeing Connor win this fight. I'm paraphrasing he's being honest he's. being honest no it's called honey what. did I say it's called honey dick buddy. listen man you cannot neglect the skills. of dos a tough guy when I look at. dosanos I I I look at a [ __ ] beast. man the way he put away Benson Henderson. the way he put away Donald Cerrone the. way he beat the [ __ ] out of Sergio.

Pettis or excuse me, Anthony Pettis. He's something special, man. Dude, I. can't think of a worse match up for. Connor, but Conor, you talk to Conor, he. thinks that it's a legit. He goes, "Ah, he's just like Jos Aldo, but shittier. version." Do you think he's really. trying to start his own promotion? You. think that's legit? That's or that's. [ __ ] What's Connor going to do. about his wrestling? What's he going to. do about his wrestling? That's real. I. think so. He has the power. He's. actually saying, did he actually say. he's gonna start his own promotion? Listen, man. If I was Conor McGregor, why would I work for the UFC after a.

while? I would go, I'm just going to do. the Conor McGregor show. Take that [ __ ]. in the road with all the best. contracters in the I would imagine. Is. that real? You guys know? I don't know. I would imagine if Conor McGregor has a. contract that would allow him at a. certain time to no longer be with the. UFC. He could do whatever the [ __ ] He. can take the sport with him. But here's. the question. Why would he? Why would. How dare you ghost those last two fights. on that main event? Ghost him? What? What' you say? uh that Connor Amanda. Nunes is no judge. Let's not talk about. that right now. Let's let's what what.

I'm saying about Connor is that Connor. is a [ __ ] legit superstar. But the. UFC made him a superstar. Like the UFC. is the perfect vehicle. They've got. everything down. The promotion, the. management, the way it's all set up, the. way the [ __ ] the marketing is on. point. It's it's on another level. If. you go to some other organization, good. luck running a smooth ship. What. happened to Affliction? What happened to. Elite XC? What happened at strike for. Bellator? Bottom line. Bottom line. This. is the bottom line. Conor McGregor. Conor McGregor would be unknown to the.

world in Ireland training in a boxing. gym if it wasn't for the UFC. Agree%. You got to remember that [ __ ] He's got. the UFC made him famous. Agree. It's. It's awful. He still deserves the money. It was a cooperative venture. There's no. either or. They're not mutually. exclusive in their their the amount of. success that was dependent upon their. actions. They both benefit from the. relationship. No. No. But no, make no. mistake about it. The UFC would always. be big. Yes, it would always be big. If. there was never a Connor, the UFC would. be just as big, but never as big as with.

a guy like that. If you want to be as. big as what that guy is, you need a. Conor McGregor. It's the only way it. happens. No doubt about it. I've always. I've always Brock Lesnar. Yeah. I've. always been [ __ ]. GSP with Conor. Maybe GSP today. Maybe. GSP today. Why would he? Because I think. the UFC today is bigger than it's ever. been. I think GSP a young GSP today if. he was a champion, god damn it. Girls. would be their [ __ ] damp panties. would be filling up 100,000 seat arenas. He's a.

stud. GSP was in his prime like when he. was like when he beat BJ Penn uh for. defending his title when he was in his. prime. If BJ if the UFC was I think the. UFC is probably I mean I don't know how. many more people watch it now than then. but as far as like being well known. It's way more wellknown. I agree. Way. more. What about BJ Penn coming back? What the [ __ ] Amazing. That's crazy, right? He did the right thing. He went. to [ __ ] Greg Jackson. Godamn it. He. thought about it. He's sitting there in.

[ __ ] on Hilo chilling the volcanoes. outside the [ __ ] window. He thought. about it and he knew it. He came back. What did he [ __ ] do? He goes to Greg. Jackson. I mean, he did the best [ __ ]. thing possible. I mean, he could have. went to AKA. He could have went to. trial, all that [ __ ] but he decided to. go fight. He decided to go to the one of. the top [ __ ] schools. Greg Jackson's. not a bad goddamn choice. Oh, it's the. best choice. Well, it's one of like five. best choices like Eric Delier down at. the Lions. That's a best choice. Um,

you've got Faras Zahabi, who is probably. my first choice or one of them. He'd be. my number one. him or him or Lisa. Bowling as a striking coach. You mean. for us? Everything coach. mastermind is another. mastermind for us though. I think number. one for me would be I think they're. working. Number one Mighty Mouse is. coach. Matt Hume. So you're right. Matt. Matt Hume and Feras a hobby to me are. commensurate. I think they're exactly. the same level. They're both wizards. Both those guys they're masters. Matt.

Hume um had more MMA fights. I think. Ferros had some a lot of kickboxing. fights, but Fas is like nasty on the. ground and he's a super genius when it. comes to like his analytical mind. The. way he breaks down fights, he breaks. down street fights. Does YouTube videos. where he breaks down? Yeah. He breaks. down how this guy came at a guy and a. guy cracked this guy with a left hook. and he explains the footwork and draws. it in a diagram. He's also young. And. you know what he also did? Smart as. [ __ ] He's younger and he's been through. it like he came up with everyone. You. know the coolest [ __ ] thing he did? He just put out a video where he's.

testing guard work and ground and pound. on guards. What guard works best for. ground and pound. He did this [ __ ] He. put it on YouTube. He put it up. So he. had him him Gary Todden and I think. Gordon Ryan, they had like some dude. jump with with boxing gloves jump in. their guard and start pounding them. And. uh and in the video, the guys on the. bottom, whether it was Faras, Gary. Tonin, or I think it was Gordon, I don't. [ __ ] know who that third guy was, uh.

but they were just wrecking the guy on. top with leg locks and just a a bunch of. different things. It was like, uh. revolutionary. experimentation. Uh one of the smartest. things you could ever do. The only thing. I think version two he needs to I I. think we should add uh there's different. scenarios in ground and pound. It's not. always it's not always the same ground. and pound. Sometimes a guy's on top, he. doesn't want to even be on the ground. So if you're not holding him on the.

ground, he's going to stand up and back. out. You have to have that that. scenario, too. What happens in that? What guard is best for a guy that's on. top in your guard? You must have pulled. guard because he didn't try to take you. down. He wants to stay on his feet. So. as soon as you open your guard, he's. going to back out and he's gone. So what. guard is best for that scenario? And. there's another scenario also. You have. the scenario where the guy is getting. beat your opponent is getting beat up on. his feet. So he's taking you down at. will and you have to deal with a guy.

who's trying not to let you stand up. So. I think uh uh version two of those uh. ground and pound experimentations to. figure out what's the best guard. I. think uh that's my two cents, but what. the [ __ ] do I know? I don't know. But. the fact that Faras actually did that, he's already experimenting on what is. the best guard for ground and pound. It's brilliant. I love it. Kickboxing M. and MMA that says MMA. He makes his UFC.

debut. But I I could have swore you. trying to bet on this main event, son. I'm trying to I'm trying to uh You want. to break down the guard? You make a good. point, Eddie. And you know what? Another. good point, Ryan Callahan talked about. Fabricio over Verdoom's guard and he was. like none of our ground and pound worked. on him with King Mo who's a nasty. wrestler. King Mo is like world class. wrestler. We need more of those films. We need those on on a consistent basis. Here's the thing though, Eddie. I think. there's only like five guys who can do. that. I mean, that's one of that's how. high in regard I hold for a hobby. I.

think that's ridiculous. Ridiculous. He's he's just a a real martial arts. wizard. Super smart guy. You ever talked to him? I trained for. him for what? Tell me what that's like. He's amaz It's uh he honestly set the. blueprint for everyone in Denver like. Shane Carwin, myself, Nate Marquart in. the blueprint for GSP. He had him doing. all this different stuff. A lot of uh. movement like what kind of [ __ ] Like. walking on logs.

Definitely know that movement [ __ ]. Playing when I was a kid, you know, a. lot playing with rocks. A lot of the. drilling a lot. He would have George. drill a ton more than we would drill. instead of just sparring. No, drilling. uh on the pads, jiu-jitsu movements, starting worst case scenario where we. weren't doing that. He's a legit genius. I think that's one of the biggest. mistakes that people make is too much. sparring. Even in jiu-jitsu, I was. talking to a buddy of mine who's a. purple belt about this and he's like he. hurt his hip and he had to get a hip. replacement surgery and uh you know he's.

like our age, he's like in his late 40s. and he and he's a very successful. businessman. He went from there to going. back to training again. But once he. healed up, he's doing like drills and. he's like, "Man, I'm telling you, just. from doing all these drills, my. jiu-jitsu has gotten much much better. because now he's constant constantly. improving upon his. database. Patterns. really pattern chunking, right? You were. talking about Henner, like how good. Henner Gracia is like pattern chunking. his whole life. How he just understands. Boxing's that way. Boxing is a series of.

patterns and then mixing them all up. And so is Taekwondo. Johnny Hendricks. body. He looks fit. Now, now Johnny Hendendricks beat Tyron. Woodley in the NCAA. What are you. saying? How does he look? Uh Johnny. Hendricks looks amazing. He looks slim, right? Yes. He doesn't look uh at all. like he had any sort of a weight. problem. He was underweight this morning. or when they weighed in, he was. underweight the morning. That's the. French guy. This [ __ ] Woo. What's his name? Francis. Make that. larger. Ingano. Man, he's a beast. He's.

got some serious power. Yeah. And uh. good defense on the ground, too. When he. got taken down, the dude didn't do [ __ ]. to him. He may be French, but he's West. African, sir. Oh, for sure. He's. gigantic, too. He was one of those. dudes. When I was I was interviewing, I'm like, "Hi, giant. Jesus." He's going. to interview over here. Like, he I went. to interview him and he decided he. wanted to walk away and uh go uh see how. the guy's feeling after you beat the. [ __ ] out of him. I'm like, "Um, okay. I'll just be over here. You do your. thing, dog. You do your thing, buddy. I'll be over." What a man. He [ __ ].

that dude up. I don't know who the [ __ ]. he [ __ ] Probably got a tiny dick, right? I don't know if the guy had. fought and I felt like the guy. next. Look at Joe Silva. Look what he. comes up to with these guys. Oh my lord. But he holds their fate. Listen, he. holds their fate. Joe Silva just he's a. great guy. He just needs mushrooms. And a [ __ ] reality check. Mushrooms. are a reality check, Brendan. I think an. ass whooping through the same thing. Oh, how dare you. Listen, I like Joe Silva. I have never had any ill dealings with.

Joe Silva. He is my friend. I enjoy him. as a human being. I do not know what the. [ __ ] went down with you and Joe Silva. Me. Ask any fighter. You [ __ ] need to. work that [ __ ] out on your own. Nah, no. I'm good now. Brendon, Brendon, if you decided in. another dimension, you decide to come. back and you're going to [ __ ] do it. You got to come back one more time. You're going to make a comeback. What. camp do you join and what is your. strategy? It's hard to turn down Muscle Farm with. Lear bowling right now, but I'd probably.

go TriStar. Well, you know, I like I. like Muscle Farm for a couple reasons. One, it's a big new facility. Everything's super state-of-the-art and. it's got some momentum. A lot of dudes. are gravitating towards there. Leester, Elliot Marshall, you know, Dwayne Lwig. is in cahoots. You know, there's a lot. of other really good striking coaches. You've got Brandon Thatch. You've got is. Klayw there now? You know why it's. happening? You know why? You know why. Muscle Farm's happening? Ryan Drexler, the guy who's running it now, he's a. student of mine, and he he always wanted.

to uh he was very successful in the. supplement industry, very very. successful. And his passion was to build. an MMA team years ago. Years ago, he got. involved in Klaya, that fight with Diego. Sanchez and Klay Lua was the craziest. fight ever. Hendrickx, Hendrickx and. Thompson is about to start and we got to. pay attention to this. This [ __ ] this. shit's important. First of all, Hrix, you're right. Any predictions? Hendrickx. looks fantastic. Ifit I don't know how. if one of got to solve that wrestling,

but he's never looked like that. He. looks so fit. He's got to solve that. wrestling. Well, he [ __ ] up in the. Tyron Woodley fight. He didn't make. weight. Look at this [ __ ] side. stance. His side stance is so unusual. This is so epic right now. And here's. the thing about about Steven Thompson is. that he's been training a lot with. Widman. So, his wrestling has gotten a. lot better and he's not worried about. being taken down. Guess what? He'll get. taken down by John with Ryan Hall. He. might get taken down, but he might not. NCAA blocked with a right hand. NCAA.

champ. That's hard to deal with. Yeah, you're right. It is hard to deal with. You know what else is hard to deal with? 57 and0 in kickboxing. That's super hard. to deal with, dude. Johnny's wrestling. Johnny's wrestling so tough in MMA. fight. I think wrestling hard. Watching. it. Let's just watch it. We don't know. what the [ __ ] is going to happen. Don't. talk. You might be right, but you're. you're you're saying what's definitely. going to happen while it's happening. That seems really ridiculous. I'm just. saying probability the rest. That's how. I sound like a wizard. Huh? Are you. psychic? I'm a little psychic, dude. I.

see things. I see things exactly one. second before they happen. This is the. worst kind of commentary ever. We're. saying Imagine if we did commentary like. this saying what's going to happen while. different [ __ ] is happening. Yeah, you. got to take him down. He's going to take. him down. He's going to crush him. No, he's not even taking him down. happening. right now. Make it cool. Countering. Countering counter predictions sideways. Watch his sidekick. A lot like mine. A. lot like mine. More front leg round kick. to the face. Dude, I'm telling you, there's very few guys that could avoid. the takedown like him and have these.

kind of skills. It's a completely. different kind of leg dexterity. His. movement's nasty, dude. He used to fight. in that Chuck Norris league. Oh, dude. Johnny Hendricks is in a world of. trouble here. He's getting lit up. He's. getting lit up like Thompson can do some. [ __ ] that Hrix has not seen before. Yeah, it's hard to get a sparring. It's. hard to get a sparring partner like. this. You're not going to find a guy. like him. You're not going to take down. He's hard to take down. He is one of the. elites in American kickboxing. He's a. freak. Look at him, man. He fights like. a snake.

So much taller. So much step in right. hand. So much taller. It depends on who. you're looking for. If you're looking. for Thompson, it's looking excellent. Yeah, it's looking crazy. Talking about. Hendrickx. It's not looking good. Hris. is in a a bad situation. Hendrick is. trying to throw that kick and he's. getting caught. He's getting timed. He's. in a terrible situation here. This is. Ronda Rousey Hollywood. Oh, look at this. switch kick. Jumping switch kick. Jumps. with the left and kicks with the right. Right hand on the chin. God dating him. up. And no, no relented. How tough is.

Johnny Hendricks? Doesn't even look like. he's getting hurt. He just keeps coming. forward. Dude, wonder boy might be able to do this to. everybody. How about that? I've said. that for a long time. I see. I think he. beats Robbie Lawler. I'll call it now. Well, he's learning how to [ __ ] fight. MMA the same at the same level that he. learned to be this elite kickboxer. Did. I watch him in that Chuck Norris thing? Remember the World Combat League where. they were fighting that bowl? He was in. that. champ. I don't know if he fought, but I.

was a fan of that Chuck Norris. kickboxing. the champion. Look how he. look in it. Oh my god. He was one of the. best guys in it. Johnny's covering well. Damn. I didn't know that right. Look at. that right. Dude, look at. his. over title. Zero. Oh my god. He's. crushing the title. He's talking to him. saying. sorry back to Johnny just looked at the. clock is done. Put him away. God damn.

Title shot. Title shot. Title shot. I'm. just saying it. I've been saying it. Oh, look at this. He can't even walk. Oh no. He was doing the karate kid. The karate. kid. He got you. Yes. Another win. Oh my. god. He double got me. He double got me. I thought he was hurt. Oh [ __ ]. Atlantic, dude. He [ __ ] [ __ ] movement. [ __ ] it. Hey. Hey, Conor McGregor. Definitely. Don't try to go to seven. He. has his movement is karate. He has.

minimal movement. That footwork movement. is just like doing all those movement. drills with karate. And you see the way. he does flips. I guarantee McGregor will. never say the 70 lb belt is looking good. to me. He'll never say that. God, you. don't want to fight this guy. Look at. what he does. Bang. Precision time. Bang. Come on. Look at the precision. though. The precision. Bam. He knew it. Bam. Bam. Johnny uppercut. Bam. Bam. Poor Johnny. Man, the the difference in. the looked at and he nodded at him. Look.

at this. No, he nods at him. He's like, "Yep, you got me, dude." He got lit up. Poor Johnny. He couldn't get taken down. He couldn't get taken down. This is the. former champion who has gone through the. best camp of his life. He's in the best. shape he's ever been. He comes in there. motivated and he gets torn apart by not. give him a title shot. We did not give. him torn apart by a genius. Has to be a. title shot. You know what? We We're. witnessing this the second of evolution. First was Macha, but we needed another. one. We needed another one. Mito was.

like, "Okay, he's a special one. It's. still not karate." Now we see it for. sure. The way this is one way is the. wonder, guys. This is one round. You can. do Woodley and him for the [ __ ]. title. Give Robbie Lawler a little bit. of a break. He just got through a war. with. Carlos some time off. Karate is although. Thompson. Yeah, but come on son. Wouldn't you want to see him? He'll. light Lawler up in my opinion. I think. that's what I'm saying. It's hard to. take Woodley's title shot away. It's.

very hard. The UFC rolls. I I do. But. I'm saying in in a sense of fairness, if. we're going to look at a sense of. fairness, it's very difficult. He's. going to outstrike everybody. But how. would you how much would you like to see. him versus Damen Maya? Oh, he's going to. outrike everybody up. I'd like to see. him fight. Hendrick can't take him down. Wonder if he kicks Damian's face. He's. going to be on a [ __ ] dude. in Cond would be a good fight. And then. uh I've been predicting the rise of.

Wonder Boy for a while. He had one bad. fight. He had one bad fight where he was. overtrained. He was overtrained against. Matt Brown and since then he's been. dominant and getting better every time. And he he was smart. He's a 170. He goes. and trains the 185 lb champion who's one. of the grittiest [ __ ] wrestlers in. the game. He goes to Wideman's camp. Wideman's a bigger guy and he learns how. to survive. Bro, people a lot of people. don't know Stephen Wboy Thompson got his. start from GSP. GSP uh was fighting. Carlos Condet. Brought Wander Boy in. I. don't know how they met. Brought him in.

And then uh he sent him to Denver to. train with Nate, myself, all the guys. And he was just [ __ ] everybody up. Meanwhile, how about this? GSP Discover. One of the most marketable guys ever. The nicest guy. Legitimately the nicest, friendliest guy you'd ever want to meet. Clean cut. Doesn't look like some. murderer. I hope he asked you for a. title shot here. Like look at him. He's gonna Thank God. Oh yeah. Thank. God.

Jesus Christ. This kid's good. He's religious. There's something to. this guy. If this guy came up to you at. a club and said he was a [ __ ] badass. striker, I'm going to go to church and. get better at fighting. Like this guy's on [ __ ] Look at this. Look at that front leg sidekick, dude. You see the extension? Look at that. front round kick. A lot like mine, but. yeah. Well, be better if it wasn't. Boom. Boom. Left hand.

Anything like yours. You shut the [ __ ] up. It's a right hand. Boom. Look at that right hand, dude. He's a sniper. He's a [ __ ] sniper. Look at that right uppercut. Bang. No. one's ever beat Johnny Hendricks like. that, dude. Not like that. Look at that. right kick to the body on the way out. Johnny's so [ __ ] tough, though. Look. at this. Boom. Oh, Jesus. Arms. Well, come on, man. I know. You got to give it. up. He's a genius. He's amazing. He's. amazing. #cowen called it. Of course, I.

called it, dude. Dude, I got my [ __ ] barbell jeans on. I will fight tonight. Dude, you were a genius tonight. Every. fight. I was quiet in the beginning. Every fight. I was tired in the. beginning. I woke up. He was right every. fight. I know, dude. Call was on fire. tonight. I thought you said he's a. genius. He was right over. We only have. five minutes left. Oh, we did. I tell. you what, Wonderbar Johnson. He put. everybody on. How badly are these things. timed? It was a first round. Let's hear.

Let's hear John's a man. Let me hear. Turn this out. They were ready to go. over that very well. He was the better man tonight. That's a. man right there. Congratulations. What else can I say? Besides, he did an awesome job. Yeah, let's not interview him after you, dude. You know what, man? That's fine because.

that just shows his character. Johnny's. awesome. Yeah, Johnny. He's a great guy. Johnny Hendricks is a man and he's. awesome. He's a man. He's a real He's. the nicest guy ever. He had to fight He. had to fight a [ __ ] a monster who. strikes has been striking since he was. three years old. You know what he's what. he's fighting right now? He's fighting a. Wonder Boy who's figured out how to stay. standing. He's figured out how to do it. in where he's gotten so comfortable with. it they can get loose to the level. See, that's not the way to be. There was. always going to be that forced higher.

than everybody else. This is how you. This is how you be dramatic when you say. this. Watch this. No. Hey, dude. You. know what? He was fighting the future. And that's all you got to say, brother. Yeah, but no one's going to give you. that amount of time. Sort of a format. Four people. Everyone drink coffee. talking [ __ ] You don't have that time. for that. I can't pause. I can't pause. This is a wolf den, son. See, I turned back. I know. Well, at the. beginning, you guys were talking about. [ __ ] all these like details and these. guys have never heard of. I was like, I. can't find an opening. Well, I was. trying to give you an opening for wine.

I was trying to give you props for your. wine skills, but I was I was kicking. when you told me talked about that. [ __ ]. off. I mean, you know, you just skills. are off the charts. Not bad, right? You're not You're not mad. Oh, your wine. skills are off the charts. You know as. much about wine as uh my business. manager who's got a [ __ ] wine seller. in his house. I pay attention one of. those dudes. Really? I'll sit in a wine. I'll sit in a wine store and talk to the. guy for hours. I I My wife has just. dragged me out. I'll call my friend. Matt. I'll call him from like anywhere. I'll be like, "All right, dude. I'm in.

some Cabernet right now. Let me read you. some [ __ ] This is the expensive [ __ ]. Is this any good? Just Just tell me. which is a good one." He'll go, "That's. a good one." What year is it? 97. 95 is. a better year, but 97 is not bad. Cal is. the. goto wine. From Tulle has good wine. Who? Dude from. Tul got good wine. He definitely does. As far as you have you ever had mayor's. wine? It's delicious. I haven't dude. Mayor Keenan purple belt jiu-jitsu by. the way. He was the one I was talking. about before when I was talking about my. friend who injured his hip. I just.

didn't want to name drop. He's uh he. owns Kadus. It's really good. He does. everything. If he does anything, he does. it well. He does it at a black belt. level. You know, he'd singer a tool. He. makes [ __ ] fantastic back on the. mats. Drilling. He's, you know, he's my. age. Great. Ridiculous. He's a beast. Like an intellectual like he's he's a no. [ __ ] kind of a guy. Yeah. And uh he. called me up because I had that uh. primal guy on Mark Sison and uh he got a. lot of things right. But apparently when.

he was talking about wine uh Mayor was. like. stay in your lane son. Damn. Yeah. He's. like we don't use 87 different. chemicals. He's like he goes we need use. some natural [ __ ] like yeast you know. maybe. And you know maybe some tannins. It's remarkably simple when you see how. they make wine a lot of times. Remarkably simple. Jesus Christ. Wonder. boy's good. Good god. He's a snake. I've. been saying this not to be a dick. I've. been saying this from since 1986. No, you have. I remember back in the. day. The way he moves, man. Like, dude,

he just [ __ ] up number two. welterweight. Eddie [ __ ] him up in the. first round. Look at him move. He. crushed him in the first round. Look at. that, dude. That we might be looking at. the champion right there. We really. might beat him. Who's going to beat him? I've been saying, but Robbie Law is. goddamn ferocious. That [ __ ]. knocked out. You remember when he. knocked out Melvin? Horrible match up. for Robbie. You might be right, but. Johnny Hendricks was the worst matchup. You might be right, but there I believe. there's a difference in the amount of. danger that Robbie Lawler will put. himself in versus the amount of danger.

that Johnny Hendrick, I'm I'm just saying the amount of danger. he'll put himself in trying to hit him. Robbie Lawler would take some crazy ass. [ __ ] chances and do some explosive, ridiculously aggressive [ __ ] Good luck. even as a champion. Well, he might not. land it, but dude, he knocked Melvin. Manhoof dead. It's crazy. He's so. indestructible. It was a fight where. Madhoof was teeing off on treated him. like a pinata like a piñata just kicking. his leg. His leg looked like it was like. a like on a on a string like and then he.

just tucked his head and threw. You got. to give Wonderboy the title shot. Well, I believe so. I believe so. But I I I. think that Tyron Woodley still has a. real good argument that he deserves the. title shot even though he's not as. impressive as this guy cuz his last. fight he won by injury, you know, right? Carlos Condet kicked, [ __ ] up his. knee. I mean, he was winning that fight. though. He definitely won the first. fight. That's a tough argument, especially as far as markability. I'm. just saying that he was supposed to be. fighting Johnny Hendricks for the number. one title shot. Johnny Hendricks had a. pull out cuz he didn't make weight and. essentially Tyron was promised a title.

shot. You know, I don't think it's a bad. thing. I don't think it's a bad thing if. Wonderboy waits out and knocks somebody. else off because I'm telling you, a. performance like this, a performance. like this is like some superstar. emerging [ __ ] Dude, he looked like a. genius tonight. a striking genius. Look. at that spinning back kick to the arm. Like it's like getting hit by a [ __ ]. bat in your arms. He's kicking him in. the arms. Johnny Hendricks is like, "What the fuck?" Machine, right? Oh my. god. A guy kicks like him. Everything.

he's doing is perfect. Like this is like. an example. This is a direct example of. what we were talking about when we were. going over the technique of the kick. He. throws everything. He slides into it. He. turns his hip over. He turns his hip. over and he throws punches. He's laser. beam accurate, man. like he's on a wire. and sees what you're doing before you do. it. Right. See, oh, you're going to. throw a right and let me just let me. just move a little bit back. Dude, the. way he landed that right kick to the. body. That right kick to the body in. that exchange before it was. extraordinary because he's he knows he's.

on the way out, but he also knows where. Hendrick's left arm is and he sneaks. that right kick right under it as he's. sliding backwards, which very few people. are going to be able to do. You know the. crazy take my fighting serious no matter. what you do in martial arts you have. like I said before we all have a certain. amount of time to drill. So whatever. whatever the kung fu the karate guys. whatever they were doing during the dark. ages when we thought it didn't work. Whatever they were doing they were. getting really good at it at that range.

and getting [ __ ] the best at that. range. Maybe they can get taken down. easily. Maybe they they don't know any. jiu-jitsu. But now we got into the point. where they spent all that time in that. range. And now they added and. supplemented wrestling so they can stay. in that range. The range that they rule, the range that they spent all their time. in, the range that nobody else spent. that much time in that range, but they. got the wrestling in the surrounding. They can stay in that range that they. rule in during the dark ages when.

everyone thought that didn't work. But. hey, guess what? Now it [ __ ] works. cuz I got all that [ __ ] to support him. I love Eddie [ __ ] up. That's what. we just saw karate. When Eddie talks, he. talks like a conspiracy. He's like, "Dude, we have to end this podcast on. that cuz we literally out of time. 3. hour mark." We're at the 3-hour mark. Did we go over yet? Yeah, we just went. slightly went over 3 hours. So, most of. this is gone. Good night, everybody. Big. kiss. Eddie, you're scramble. No, you're. great. Did you go? You go cuz when it.

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