Joe Rogan Experience #857 - Dan Bilzerian

Boom. And we're live. There's a lot of. rich people in the world, but there's. not a lot of rich people living like. you. So, first of all, before we even. get started, I salute you, sir. Because. if I was a 16-year-old kid and I won the. lottery, I'd be living exactly the way. you live. Like, if you asked a. 16-year-old kid, "Hey, man, if you had. [ __ ] 100 million bucks, what would. you do?" Oh, dude, I just have I'd just. have [ __ ] around me all the time. I'd. be jet skiing. I'd be driving around. Ferraris and private jets. you're living. like a a life that doesn't even seem.

real. It It's uh Does it seem real to. you? Um now it seems normal as crazy as. that sounds. Um I've been doing it for a. while. But that's actually kind of. exactly what I did. I was um I think it. started in maybe like 2011 12. So I had. a girlfriend for about two or three. years and she was like pretty happy the. fact she was a playmate. and she had. like 100,000 followers and she was going. to move to LA to become famous and this. and that and we ended up breaking up and.

I actually ended up getting a place in. San Diego. Then I got a place in LA and. I started playing this, you know, real. big poker and I mean I beat one guy for. like 54 million and then, you know, I. beat another guy for like 10, you know, so there's like, you know, some pretty. big Jesus Christ. Yeah. Like, you know. what I'm saying? I was like, there are. some pretty big, you know, wins there. And uh and I was single and I was just. like, you know what, [ __ ] it. I'm just. going to kind of like do bucket list. [ __ ] Like whatever, like whatever I. wanted to do when I was a kid, I'm just. going to [ __ ] do it, you know? And I.

just did. And I posted about it. And it. was like part of the posting was cuz I. knew it'd be able to get me some [ __ ]. without like actually speaking to girls, which was good. And then there was like. another piece of it where it was kind of. like a [ __ ] you to her, right? And then, but it was like never like really to. become famous, you know what I mean? It. was just kind of like, you know, I was. just doing my thing and, you know, we. were getting pictures here and there. Uh, and then it kind of I mean, [ __ ]. it's you know, I mean, I sent you some. of the stats. I mean, I think like a.

week ago, like, [ __ ] I reach 175. million people. I'm just Yeah, it was. insane. You sent me uh some some. measurement of all the different people. that are looking at your stuff and I'll. read it because it's it's insane. analytics. Yeah. Like I it doesn't even. make sense. These it's hundreds of. millions of people here. Well, see, and. here's 161 million. 34,941 impressions this week. Yeah, that's insane. And that's just.

Instagram, you know, like Facebook's the. whole, you know, another thing. And and. and and it's really underrepresented. because first of all, everybody else is. buying all their followers and likes and. all their [ __ ] So theirs is like really. inflated. And also I got actually kind. of like the opposite because I got a lot. of people that are looking at my [ __ ]. They can't really be seen looking at my. [ __ ] You know what I mean? Like there's. like some big producer. I won't say his. name, but like every time I post a girl. like they get hit up in the D and this. is like a big big like like you know. like [ __ ] done like hundred million.

dollar movies and [ __ ] and he's like. hits them all up, you know? So there's. like a lot of these dudes that just. stalk me out like this. Paul Marciano, this [ __ ] guy is like every time I. like post a chick, she's got a guest. campaign now, you know? So, it's like. it's kind of funny, you know? Well, it's. great for them, too, then. Well, but but. what I'm saying is like they're not. actually like officially following me. They didn't click that button, but. they're watching my [ __ ] They're. stalking you guys on target. Yeah. Yeah. So, they hit that search button and. you're at the top of the list always cuz. they're always searching you. That's. funny. Seems like it. So, how long has.

this been going on? When did you start. making all these crazy posts and when. did this gambling rampage start? Um well. I mean I've been a gambler for a long. time but um I think kind of the. craziness I would say started in 2012. probably I just distinctly remember cuz. I I won like 11 million bucks in a night. and my buddy who I just given like. $2,000 to made me a million off it cuz. he got second in the World Series of. Poker. So I had like a $12 million week. So I was like [ __ ] it. I'm going to take.

this dude down to like Porta with a. bunch of chicks and we're going to have. fun, you know? And that was kind of like. um that was that was one of the be. actually no I'm sorry I take that back. I'd broken up with my girlfriend and it. was a buddy of mine, Nick Civetises, who. he's like, you know, he's pretty big. Uh. he did like The Notebook and Blow and. you know, like big director, whatever. And um I played poker with him a lot. And I just broken up with my girl and I. was like, "Hey, let's go down to Cabo. I'm going to bring some chicks." And it. was supposed to be me, him, and one.

other guy. And the other guy ended up. bailing, but he had like committed so he. paid for his part of the trip. So, it. was me and Nick and I think it was like. I want to say 17 chicks. And I I. remember I had sex nine times in one. day. I was like so proud of myself, right? I think by the end I was like it. was like dust was coming out, you know? But it's like and it was funny cuz I. like I didn't even want to have sex the. ninth time. But it was just kind of like. a like a matter of principle. It's like. if a billion a billionaire is walking. down the street and he sees a $100 bill, he's just always going to pick it up.

You know what I mean? That was me. I. didn't get a lot of [ __ ] when I was. younger. So it's like if a hot chick. want to [ __ ] me like I didn't care if I. wanted to be just like out of. obligation. So 17 girls. Y now do you. pay these girls to come? No. That's. okay. So that's the big misconception. I'm addressing that on my app. I. actually You have an app? Yeah. I've got. an app coming out and I'm just going to. basically But you know what? I'll give. it to you for free, you know. So. um I'm not opposed to paying for sex, you know? Like I mean I have in the past.

like I've you know [ __ ] thousands of. girls so it's like you know and I've. paid for maybe like 10 or 20 something. like that and it's not cuz I have any. you know moral dilemma about it and it's. not because I think it's wrong. Um in. fact I think like sex for money is one. of the most like pure interactions cuz. the guy gets what he wants, the girl. gets what she wants. There's no. [ __ ] I think like this whole like. sugar daddy sugar baby thing is the. biggest [ __ ] up part because then the. guy's like pretending to like the girl. He's pretending he's not [ __ ] other. girls. The girls pretending to like him.

It's just like all this like convoluted. [ __ ] Well, it is prostitution and. it is at the end of the day like it is. paying for sex, right? But but they're. not coming out and saying it. It's not. like, "Hey, I want X and I'll give you. Y." It's like the guy from the Clippers. with Donald Sterling and that girl. Come. on, man. That's girl doing it. It's It's. LA, bro. Like, they they all have like, you know, these five girlfriends. They're supporting them and then the. girls have other boyfriends they don't. tell, you know? And it's this whole. [ __ ] up thing. But like I said, but. for me, like I said, it's not a moral. thing. It's not a I mean, for me, it's. not a monetary thing. Obviously, I'd.

much prefer to just give a girl money. [ __ ] her and be done. But for me, if the. girl's not into me, then I'm just like. kind of not into the sex. So, that's the. hangup for me. But no, I I like that's. actually healthy. Uh yeah, I mean I mean. it is. I mean, people make these big. judgments. They're they're going to make. big judgments on you first of all. because you're doing some stuff that's. just like so far to the right end of the. spectrum it doesn't even make sense. Like how the [ __ ] is he pulling all this. off? It doesn't it's like it seems. unattainable. So they're going to make.

well he's this guy's wrong and he's I. would never do that and they're saying a. bunch of crazy [ __ ] because the way. you're living is just so bizarre. But at. the end of that's the thing like people. just like can't wrap their hands around. the fact that like you know they that. cuz so many guys are paying right now. like people are tricking off in record. numbers like because of Instagram and. all this stuff and the access that. people have like tricking off mean. paying for sex paying for sex in like. record numbers like it's un first of all. it should be legal just like getting a.

massage should be legal you know nobody. wants to rub your feet nobody wants to. suck your dick you should be able to pay. both of them it's the oldest profession. like since the history of time. It is. It is. Well, not only that, they they. taught chimpanzees the value of. currency. They gave chimpanzees coins. and they gave them coins and then every. time the chimps would give the coins to. back to the people, they'd give them. candy. You know what the chimps did? The. first [ __ ] thing they did, they gave. the coins to female chimps and they. [ __ ] them. That's amazing. That's the. first thing they did. And the.

researchers are like, "Jesus, that is. number one." The first thing they did. That's funny. I didn't know that. Yeah, it's hilar. I used to have a whole bit. about it. It's It's nothing There's. nothing wrong with it. And like making. pleasure a crime is ridiculous. There's. no victim. No one's getting hurt. Think. of all the shitty jobs that you can get. paid to do. You can get paid to clean. toilets. You can get paid to [ __ ]. insulate attics. There's a lot of. terrible jobs. How about you can get. paid to mop up the [ __ ] on a [ __ ] you.

know, on the floors of these like, you. know, jerk houses or the porn place or. whatever, you know? It's like I mean I. don't know. Like I said I I have no. issues with it. I I think it should be. legal. Um it's a victimless crime. Yeah. I just like for like I said for me it's. it's the it's the mental thing and I. just like I I I got you know I couldn't. [ __ ] all the girls you know if I had. five dicks. So it's like what you know. what's the point? And I'm not like. bragging like I didn't used to. I'm just. you know I'm just kicking the real deal. You know it's like I I would I said.

there's no victims. I guess there is. some there's victims of some. prostitution, right? There's uh people. that are abducted and there's there's. certain people that are like sex. traffic, like sex slaves. That's real. But we're not talking about that. Yeah, we're talking about that's that's. exactly what you said, though. That's. sex slavery. That's not really like a. girl saying, "Hey, I want X for Y.". That's that's her saying, "Hey, you got. to do this or you're getting your ass. beat." Yeah. There there's a big way. bigger difference way big difference. between that and a lot of what you see.

in LA is these girls they want to wear. the nice purses and have nice shoes or. they don't really want a job and they. want to live in a nice apartment but. they don't want to work. How do I work. this out? And and by the way, getting. back to your last thing, if it was. legal, there wouldn't be, you know, the. pimp saying, "Hey, you're going to do. this. You're going to get your ass. beat." It would all be regulated. Exact. just like drug dealers. Yeah. And and. and also then then they'd be getting, you know, tested and, you know, there'. just be like a whole regulated system. Exactly. I mean, as much as I hate pain. pills and as much as I I've I've lost.

friends to pain pills and oxies and all. this different [ __ ] there's there's no. [ __ ] wars being fought over it. There's not blood in the streets of. Wararez, Mexico over pain pills. You. know, all that [ __ ] is over drugs that. are illegal. As soon as those drugs. become legal, I think probably less. people would use them and you'd get tax. dollars from them and at least there. would be some sort of a solution in. terms of like treatment and. responsibility and you'd be able to look. at it a little bit differently. Yeah, I. just think there's too much money and. kickbacks for that to happen. But I I.

totally agree. I mean, I think alcohol. is far worse for you than many drugs. And I mean, you know, I mean, how many. times have you seen people get into, you. know, fights or shoot people or, you. know, wreck their cars because they're. high on or high on weed, you know, it. never happens, but on alcohol, you know, more people are dying from, you know, alcohol related deaths than they are. firearms, but they want to ban the guns, you know. Yeah. It's there's there's a. lot of real problems with that for sure. And, you know, there's also these. companies like the company that makes. fentinel. Is that how you say it? Fent. fentinel. It's a super strong pain pill,

uh, painkiller that's 10 times at least. more powerful than Oxycontton, I believe. that's what the number is. They're. spending $500,000 just to keep marijuana. illegal in Arizona because they're, you. know, they've got it on the ballot to. make it recreationally legal in the. state of Arizona. And so they're putting. out all these ads and they have this. whole campaign to try to sway people, but they're just doing it for business. Has nothing to do with public safety or. health. You see that [ __ ] thing about. Hillary Clinton? one of the Wikileaks.

things that Hillary Clinton um she the. Wikileaks released some paper where she. was uh in communication with bankers, one of the emails, and she was saying. that she was going to stop weed and that. she was going to make sure that weed uh. was not legal, that she was going to do. her best and stand her ground and all. this nonsense. Leak reveals Clinton. promised bankers to stand against. marijuana legalization. Like, what the. [ __ ] Hillary? She's pretty brutal. Just. what the [ __ ] I know you're bought and. sold, but don't you have enough money,

lady? How much money you need? Unless. you're gambling with Dan Bilzerian, where the [ __ ] all your money going? I. mean, it's kind of funny because uh what. do they pay these presidents? Like 250k. a year, but they $400,000 a year and. they're all worth hundreds of millions. of dollars. Yeah. We're billionaires, you know? It's insane. Yeah. Well, not. only that, like she was trying to say. that once Bill got out of the office, he. was dead broke. Well, you're not dead. broke now. So, how the [ __ ] did you guys. make all that money? They're worth. hundreds and hundreds of millions of. dollars and it's all from speaking. arrangements and paytoplay and weird.

[ __ ] shady deals they have with banks. and they do these speeches that nobody. wants to [ __ ] hear and they pay them. quarter million bucks an hour. It's all. preposterous. Yeah. I mean, the more. money you have and the more you kind of. rub shoulders with these people, you. kind of get a look behind the curtain. and you see that, you know, it's just uh. it's I mean, politics, if you look up. the definition of politics, I mean, it's. like bullshitting, right? Yeah, that's. like basically Well, that is being. political, right? Is not being yourself, which is the opposite of what you're. doing. I mean, you're kind of like an.

anti-olitician in a lot of ways. But do. you What I want to get at though is do. you get hit up because you're you're so. wealthy. Do you get hit up by people. that are in the political spectrum that. want to use your influence and your you. have how many [ __ ] followers do you. have? Uh, it's 19 something on Instagram. and it's 10 and a half million on. Facebook and Twitter. whatever. But I. mean, yeah, that's insane. That's more. than the whole UFC. Yeah, the reach is. crazy. You know, 19.2 million followers.

That's crazy. And it's all just pictures. of you grabbing titties. Like, look at. this one right here. This is one This. one's hilarious. It's like someone told. you that you shouldn't you should post. something more. Well, my team is like, "You got to clean this up." You know, like, you know, there's big be your new. team. [ __ ] your team. Exactly. Like all. they're like, "There's all this money. out there. You know, you could, you. know, this, you know, this uh this Rock, he got paid 17 million bucks to endorse. Ford. They're like, you can make all. this money. He did. Yeah. Oh, what do he. do? Just drive a truck. Yeah. He.

basically drives a truck and does a Ford. commercial here. 17 million. It's. probably worth it though for them. The. Rock has like 67 million or some insane. [ __ ] But he's a goddamn movie star. You're a dude who takes pictures with. chicks. That's the thing, you know, like. I I feel like I got to be maybe like the. most famous guy that never had like a TV. show or like a real talent. 100%. There's not no one even close. It's kind. of rare to be like number one in. anything, you know? So, it's kind that's. kind of cool. You're the number one. baller. Well, I don't know about that. From America, you're the number one.

baller. I'm I'm giving you the crown. right now. If I had a little Burger King. crown, I'd put it on your head. I could. tell you some stories about some guys. that got But they don't know who you. are. They don't Nobody knows who they. are. They're the number one public. baller. Yeah. Okay. For sure. I'm the. only guy that's kind of putting it out. there cuz, you know, most guys they got. they got a job, they got a wife, they. got family, you know, whatever. I just. kind of just said, "Fuck all of it." You. know, like they can accept me or not and. I I'm just going to do what I want. How. old are you? 35. Do you think that. there's going to come a day when this is. going to be tired? And if you if it does.

come a day, do you think you're ever. going to go the marriage route? Is that. possible at this point? So, look, you. know, I mean, I'm a gambler, but I don't. want to bet half my net worth I'm going. to love a girl forever. But, you know, it's that not to say that I wouldn't, you know, have a girlfriend or, you. know, I'm capable of me being. monogamous. Um, you know, it's just for me it's it's. more about options really. Like at the. end of the day, like it comes down to. most guys are in relationships I feel. like because it's either, hey, I'm going. to jerk off on Saturday night or I got.

to put up with her [ __ ] and I get laid, you know? And it's like, and a lot of. it's out of laziness, a lot of it's out. of lack of options, whatever the case. may be. But it's not correct. Like for. me, I think a correct relationship is a. guy that could be [ __ ] you know, five or 10 girls and he chooses to hang. out with this one girl because he likes. her. He likes hanging out with her and. she hangs out with him because she. enjoys his company. And regardless of. what the reason is, you know, because a. lot of people are like, "Oh, you know, that girl's a gold digger. They want to. hate on him." Um, but you know, at the. end of the day, if a guy has made his.

money from, you know, successful. business and, you know, being smart and. and he hasn't [ __ ] it off like, you. know, or he's a doctor, whatever. That. to me is more of a part of who that guy. is than a girl that's just born hot. So, for a guy to like a girl just because. she's hot, I feel like is like the most. superficial thing of all time. Well, I. mean, she has to be nice, too. She. can't. I mean, hopefully she does. But. I'm saying a lot of guys are with a girl. just because she's hot. And they don't. really get as much [ __ ] as a girl that's.

with a guy because he's successful or. because he has money. It's true. It is. true. It is true. Like the the guy who. earned that money, it's his character. and his willpower and his discipline. that's allowed him his smarts has. allowed him to earn that money or he. just got lucky as [ __ ] There's. definitely some lucky ones, but but you. know, you also have to hold on to it, you know. I mean, once you got money, I. mean, you got every [ __ ] in their. mother with their hand out, you know, trying to scam you and I mean, it's easy. to, you know, [ __ ] it off or, you know, make bad investments or, you know, whatever the case may be. Yeah, it is. That's a It is a funny little situation.

there, isn't it? Because like it's also. the way women are allowed to dress. Even. like a like a respectable woman is. allowed to have her tits pressed. together and pushed up and she's allowed. to have a skirt that's just like a. little a little light vagina curtain, you know, and that's really all it is. Little panties underneath and smooth. legs and high heels. I mean, the whole. thing is. sexelling lust. Let's talk about bathing. suits. I mean, the fact that every. bathing suit now is basically a thong.

And the fact that like a bathing suit. shows more than like the most revealing. underwear back in the day ever used to, right? But it's like completely socially. acceptable. Then on Halloween they could. wear even less than that. It's okay. Yeah. It's like literally butt naked. I. mean, they're allowed to wear paint. Yeah. When the [ __ ] did paint become. closed? Imagine we put paint on our dick. and went out. You get arrested, right? Yeah. Well, how come a girl can wear. paint on her tits, but you can't wear. paint on your dick? I want to know. Yeah. That's I want to know. Oh, it's a. double standard. Yeah, it is a double. standard. Nobody wants to see your dick.

painted up. That's why. Yeah, especially. if it's like American flag or something. Yeah. I don't want to see a bunch of. zebra dicks around either. It is weird. There are weird double standards, but. it's also people don't want to open. their mouth because uh they don't want. first of all, they don't want anybody to. think that they, you know, like why do. women get to do this? And oh, what are. you complaining poor guy? You know, you. don't want to hear that. But it's also. when men complain about the double. standard in like like marriage like what. you said as far as it being a gamble.

It's a terrible gamble for a wealthy. man. It's terrible cuz like it's it's. essentially a financial agreement. It's. not a love agreement. Well, no. You're. asking the government permission to be. with a girl. And if you decide that you. don't want to be with them, now you have. to go ask the government and then you. have to get lawyers involved. And it's. this whole process that in in my eyes it. makes both parties feel well not both. parties because usually you know it's. kind of like a magnet like one is. pushing a little bit further than the. other and it's you know so there's one. kind of like always chasing or whatever. So for me, it just makes the party.

that's a little bit less invested just. feel trapped. And when you're in a. relationship and you feel trapped, the. first thing you want to do is run, right? So you got this one person, you. know, that inevitably ends up feeling. trapped and the other person, you know, kind of gets lazy or complacent. And I. feel like it just snowballs. You know, there's like a lot of momentum things, right? So, if relationships just starts. kind of going downhill and you're. trapped in it because you're legally. bound, I just feel like it's just going. to get worse and worse and the girl's. going to stop giving the [ __ ] and.

the guy's going to resent it and then. maybe he cheats. You know what I mean? It's like this whole cycle that just. wouldn't happen if you were hanging out. cuz you wanted to hang out. Cuz let's. face it, if you're if you're hanging out. with a chick and you like her and she's. cool and then she just decides to just. completely let herself go and she turns. into a fat ass and or she just like. stops wanting to have sex with you, you're just going to, you know, [ __ ]. other girls or you're just not going to. hang out with her, right? But if you're. married to her, you don't really have a. choice. I mean, now you're kind of like. you got to ask the government permission. and you know this and that. Yeah. You. got to get lawyers involved. You live in. the same place. You got to Oh, it takes.

forever. You have to agree on terms and. you have to pay for her lawyer. Yeah. I. mean, how brutal is that? like you're. like literally like trapped in the same. house as the person, you know? It's just. like [ __ ] man. It It can get crazy. It. can get crazy. And I've seen it get. crazy. I'm sure you have, too. When. people get divorced, I mean, it is one. of the most stressful things a person. can go through in their life. And when. you're working, you're working all day. And if she's not working, that's when. it's really crazy. I had a buddy was. going through a divorce. His wife never. worked. And he was working, you know,

10, 12 hours a day, just busting his ass. constantly. Had his own business. and. she would be [ __ ] off and doing. whatever she wanted during the day. He. had to pay for all that on top of paying. for her lawyer and her lawyer was trying. to [ __ ] him and then he had to pay for. his lawyer to battle her lawyer and they. all just dragged the whole thing out. Took over a year and a half for him to. get divorced. So it's a year and a half. this poor bastard just I mean he's free. now but god damn but try to get him. married now he'll [ __ ] shoot you in. the face if you even bring up that word.

It's like he went through it. I mean. they have a term for it in gambling. It's a negative free roll. It's where. you can basically only lose. You have no. upside. You know, like like for. instance, a negative free roll is like. if I were to tell you, hey, um you know, if you can go bench press 300 lb, I'll. give you $10,000. Well, I just can't win. anything. You know what I mean? Because. if you can't do it, then I don't get. anything. So, it's kind of like in my. eyes, I just feel like it's a situation. where you can just lose. It's kind of. like my buddy, he got into a. relationship and he just like dove in. like super hardcore really fast. And I.

just told him, I said, "Look, like I. just feel like you don't have a lot of. upside by doing that because, you know, you can get hurt and if you just take it. slow, like worst case scenario, you. know, you just weren't quite as close. for a month." But I said, you know, if. it doesn't work out, then now you. invested, you know, all this time and. this effort. And it's like, and I feel. like because he went so hardcore for. this girl, it kind of like, you know, sometimes it makes them run away a. little bit cuz they know you, you know,

people, you know, they just by nature. want what they can't have, right? So if. you just give it all to them. immediately, then it's kind of like. they're like, "Look at this bitch.". Yeah, exactly. They kind of like lose. respect for you a little bit. It can. happen or it can be perfect. You know, relationships just have to be organic. That's what it really has to be. And as. soon as you involve legal contracts, it's not organic anymore. Exactly. Like. once it once I feel like once it starts. to be forced in any way, you know, then. Well, it's when there's no prenuptual, too, that's when things get really. screwy. You know, when you find out how. much people actually have to pay. Yeah.

Like I've talked about it on my podcast. before, but I have another buddy who's. paying his ex-wife for the rest of her. life. They were married for 12 years. He. has to pay her forever. Forever. Yeah. She's got a new boyfriend. He's married. He's got kids now with another woman. That's the most brutal part is when they. when they get the boyfriend and now. you're like supporting this dude to bang. your wife. Not only that, the dude lives. in his house and every time they send a. lawyer over to check, the the guy packs. up his stuff. It's like a joke. He. throws it in a a U-Haul. He drives. around the corner, waits for the. inspector to leave, goes all the way.

around and brings his [ __ ] back. It's. [ __ ] insanity because, you know, he's. got this baller house in the palace he's. living with this girl. Yeah. And the. only way she could screw it up is if she. marries this guy. But this guy doesn't. have any money. So, she's never going to. marry this guy. I mean, she would she. would have to bank on marrying this guy. Would be worth I think my buddy pays her. somewhere around a half million dollars. a year forever. Forever for life. So. crazy. So they've been they were married. for 12 years. They've been divorced for. 15. So he's been paying her longer than.

they were. married. Just you just want to just. [ __ ] jump off a bridge. But that's, you know, like I said, negative. I just. I don't see the upside, right? Well, it's so rare that it works out the other. way. It's so rare that a woman has to. pay a man. And it's one of those things. where it's it like men are being. victimized left and right by this. And. when you talk to people about it, they're always like, "Oh, well, you. [ __ ] up. Well, you shouldn't have done. it. Well, you should have got a prenup.". Well, well, okay, maybe maybe you could. say all those things. Yes, maybe it was. a mistake. But it was obviously a.

mistake under the the the whole spell of. love and to have this be a financial. entanglement that can trap you. And this. I'm talking about my friend doesn't even. have any kids. He didn't have any kids. with this lady. So, it's it's insanity. It's just it's just a robbery. It's just. a legalized robbery. And I was having. this conversation with a buddy of mine. who is married. He's like, "Well, you. know, I don't look at it that way." I. go, "Look at it this way. The the the. business of divorce, and it is a. business. Whenever there's money.

involved in something, there's a bunch. of people that try to figure out how to. extract that money and the lawyers.". Yeah. The only money is in taking the. money from the rich guy. That's where. the money comes from. That's where the. only way you get the money. You don't. get the money if the the girl doesn't. make much money and everybody wins if. the rich guy gets [ __ ] So if the if. the legal battle for the divorce lasts. two years as opposed to 2 minutes, everybody gets paid. The both lawyers on. both sides make a substantial amount of. money, the woman gets a substantial. amount of money, the guy gets [ __ ].

drained like a vampire. And that's what. happens predominantly. Yeah. which is usually the outcome of, you know, a lot of times when a rich guy. gets involved in anything is, yeah, he. gets drained. And that's kind of goes. back to my previous point of why I feel. like women that are attracted to guys. that are successful, you know, it makes. sense because there's just so many. people trying to take that [ __ ]. down, you know, like when you're at the. top of the hill, like, you know, everybody wants to, you know, get up. there and, you know, bring you down. Well, it's it's just nature. I mean,

it's it's just like a a moose having a. [ __ ] giant set of antlers. All the. other moose are like, "Oh, look at those. antlers." You know? I mean, it's just it. is it's a a thing that exists in all. different species. I mean, there's no. there's no denying that when a guy pulls. up in a Rolls-Royce and he flies in his. own private jet and he does a bunch of. things that nobody else can do that. people just go, "Oh." And women automatically. genetically get attracted to that guy. for some strange reason. There's you. There you are, buddy. Balling balling.

out of control. How did you get all your money. originally? Um, so that's another common. misconception. Um, and I didn't really. uh I didn't really talk about it or or. say anything about it just because it. helped me out so much in poker. Um, but. everybody just thought that I was, you. know, rich trust fund idiot. Um, and my. parents gave me all my money. So that. actually allowed me to get into a lot of. these poker games. um because they.

thought you were a fish. Yeah. It's like. a weird thing. Um it's not just that, but in poker, I've noticed that if a guy. loses money to another guy and he knows. that that money is going to help that. other guy out or his quality of life is. going to be improved by that money, it. really [ __ ] irritates him. Really? Yeah. And I'm guilty of it, too. If I. lose $5 million to a billionaire, it. doesn't bother me nearly as much as if I. lose maybe a couple hundred thousand to. some guy that's like pretty broke. and.

now he goes out and buys a new [ __ ]. car with my money and I'm just like this. [ __ ] guy, you know what I mean? Like, oh, that's weird. I don't know why. And. it and it's it's kind of. counterintuitive, you know? But another. thing about it is like if you lose money. to a guy that has a bunch, like you. always think that, you know, there's a. chance you could win it back, too. So, there's that piece of it. Um, if you. lose money to a guy that doesn't really. have much and he goes out and spends it, well, like you're never getting it back. again. Um, yeah, that exists in pool. Like, a lot of guys don't want to gamble. with guys who only have one barrel. A. guy will play your game pool for 100.

bucks, but he's only got 100 bucks, but. you might have 10,000. Exactly. So, you. look at your upside, it's like, okay, best case scenario, I walk away from. this with this guy's last 100 bucks, which to me, some guys get off on that. To me, I don't really ever want to break. a guy, right? But then you look at the. the the downswing of that is like, okay, I could like, you know, spend 10,000. trying to chase my initial hundred bucks. that I lost. So, you have to take that. There's just a lot of things in gambling. that you have to take into account, you. know, with the with the money management. side, psychological things. Yeah. So, how did you make your money then? Playing poker. You made it all playing.

poker. Yeah. Wow. That is insane. So, what did you do for a living before you. played poker? I mean, I was in the. military for four years. Um, and when I. got out, got honorable discharge and I, you know, uh, I was getting some. disability money from the VA just. because I, you know, I got a lot of. injuries when I was going through BUDS. and and and just and not even just. injuries, just all the medical checks. they do. They just document all the. things that are wrong with you. So, you. get a percentage for all those things. Like, what kind of [ __ ] was wrong with. you? [ __ ] I mean, I first time I went.

in, I had uh bilateral stress fractures. So, I was, you know, I went into buds. with broken legs. And so, I was, you. know, eating a bunch of Motrin. It. burned a hole in my stomach. I had acid. reflux. They ended up getting so bad. they were actually going to kick me out. of the Navy for You going through buds. with broken legs? The first time I went. in? Yeah. Nobody knew that. You just. thought your legs were sore? Well, no. I. got medically dropped the first. So, I. mean, it's kind of a long story, but. I'll try and give you the cliff notes. Um, so I went to boot camp and the. furthest I'd ever ran was like 2 miles.

and it was straight out of high school. cuz I got thrown in jail um my senior. year of high school. So, I didn't. graduate. I got a GED. Um, and see that. kids, you don't need a degree. Yeah. Just learn how to play poker. Yeah. Well, we'll get to that. So, um, end up. joining the military, go through boot. camp in a school. I was, you know, I was. trying to ramp up cuz I'm like, "Fuck, I'm going to SEAL training. I got to, you know, I got to start running." So, I. started running. I got an overuse injury. turned into stress fracture. Uh, they. basically put me on a medical hold. And.

my detailer said, "Look, you can stay on. this medical hold till your legs are. healed and then I'm going to send you to. a ship for two years and then you can. apply or else you can get cleared and go. straight to SEAL training." So, I was. like, "Okay." Got cleared, went to SEAL. training. They dropped me the first day. I had to request to talk to the captain. He and finally the captain's like, "Okay, you know, I'll let you I'll let. you try." Because I basically said, "Look, just give me a shot. I'm already. here. Like, let me just train. Um, what's the worst that can happen? I'm. not going to die. I can, you know, break. the leg worse." So, I said, "If I make. it through hell week, just give me a. medical role." He's like, "Yeah, sure,

kid. Go ahead." So, the guy let me. train. Um, that was actually first bet I. made. My doctor, who was like a Vietnam. seal, he's like, he was so [ __ ]. pissed that the C co allowed me to. train. So, he's like, "I'll bet you 100. bucks you don't make it through hell. week." It was a 100 bucks or 20 bucks, I. forget which, but I bet the guy and I. won the [ __ ] money. Um, and three. weeks after I was just I I mean, I could. barely walk, you know? So, I ended up. getting rolled and then they kicked me. out. Um, and so I went to my ship and. the ship was like uh the the captain of.

the ship wanted to take me out to sea. even though I was supposed to be on. crutches. So, I was like, "This. motherfucker." So, after after going. through like the hardest thing and then. getting dropped, um, now I'm on a boat. and I'm supposed to be like healing up. and this guy wants to take me out at. sea. So, I go to Okinawa and I requested. uh to go in to see my wisdom teeth and. then when I was there I was like, "Hey, you know, check my legs." They're like, "Okay, we'll do a nuclear bone scan.". So, when I was supposed to go in from a.

they said, you know, come back in two. hours. So, I went for a two-hour run and. in just like my [ __ ] not even like my. uh uh fatigues, it was like a work. uniform. It was like a button-down. shirt. I went for a two-hour run, took a. shower, came back, and they looked at my. legs and I'm like, "Your legs are. [ __ ] destroyed. Like, I can't believe. you can walk." I'm like, "Yeah, these. motherfuckers." You know? And so, they. were going to kick me out of the Navy. So, it like that was the I was going to. get medically discharged from the Navy. And it took him so long that I actually.

requested to go back. And I just I'll. never forget because I went in to talk. to the CEO of my it was like a limited. duty um security detail or whatever. And. he goes, "Let me get this straight." He. goes, "You're about to be medically. retired from the military." He goes, "For broken legs and you want me to. request for you to go to SEAL training?". He goes, "How [ __ ] stupid are you?". And I was just like, you know, I didn't. really know what to say. I was ah sir, you know, this that he's just like, he's.

like, "Get the [ __ ] out of my office.". And I was like thinking about it. I was. like, "Well, fuck." Like I, you know, I'm like healed. Been doing steroids. I. feel great. I've been [ __ ] working. out. Like my it's been like eight. months, right? Like I feel like I could. go do this again. So, I ended up pulling. some strings and uh and basically I just. had to get cleared and then I had to. pray that I got sent to Buds because if. not I'd go to a ship and then I had to. ext it was just like it would be the. biggest disaster of all time. So that. was one of my biggest gamles was doing. that. I had like a, you know, free ride.

for the rest of my life, medically. retired, like, you know, I'm a disabled. veteran, like, you know, all this great. [ __ ] And I kind of like gave it up to. go back. And. um, yeah, I went into his office and he. goes he goes he goes, "You might be the. stupidest [ __ ] I've ever seen.". He goes, he goes, he goes, "You just. better hope that you don't end up back. at this command." He goes, he goes, "You're going to be cleaning [ __ ]. toilets until you get discharged." And. uh yeah, so that was uh so how would.

they have dischar how would they have. paid you for life from broken legs? I. mean, don't the legs heal up and then. you're okay? That's the thing is like it. just it had been basically since it was. documented because when I got out of um. boot camp in a school, I had them and I. had them all through buds. Where where. is it broken? Uh bilateral tibial stress. fracture. So my tibious um and then. that's the big one, right? The fibula is. the smaller one. the shin tib. It was in. the shins. I don't remember which, but I.

think it was the bigger one. Um, and. then so all through buds and then, you. know, on the boat. So, it was basically. like, you know, I had broken legs for. like a year and a half or a year and. seven month. Insane. It was basically. like they're like, "Okay, well, this. guy's legs are just never going to. [ __ ] heal, right?" Like, that was. kind of like the military's take on it. was like, "Okay, well, he's been on. limited duty like this and that. Like, his legs should have healed by now and. they just aren't. So, what are we going. to do with them? So, why wasn't it. healing? I'm still confused. Well, because I went through SEAL training.

That kind of [ __ ] him up. [ __ ] him. up a little bit. And then, you know, I. was on the boat and I wasn't allowed to. use crutches. And then I think obviously. the final straw was probably me [ __ ]. going on a twohour run. So, did you do that on purpose? [ __ ]. yeah, I did it on purpose. Yeah. Why? Well, what was the goal of [ __ ] to. get the [ __ ] off the ship? I was like. this, you know, this captain was such a. [ __ ] It's like, bro, I went through. all this [ __ ] pain. You know what I. mean? Like, I went through, you know, SEAL training. It's like, let my legs.

heal, you [ __ ] [ __ ] Like, the. guy like wanted me to like stand watches. on the boat. It was like kind of like, it's basically like a [ __ ] you to him. So, you crushed your own legs to get off. the boat and then tried to get into SEAL. training. Yeah. Well, it took him so. long, you know, it took him so long to. process me out of the military that they. had healed. And so, I was just like, "Wow, fuck." Wow. That's hilarious. So. just from those broken legs, you could. have been set up where you got a pension. forever. Yeah. Wow. And not only that, but like if you're like a disabled. veteran, you get like you're eligible.

for like a lot of [ __ ] you know? If. you're like medically retired, it's kind. of like, you know, you went in the. military and you tried to, you know, be. in there forever and like you just got. injured, you know what I mean? So they. like make a lot of, you know, allowances. for people like that. Like I think they. give you like your first loan in your. house for free. There's like a whole. bunch of [ __ ] Huh. Yeah. I remember cuz. I looked into it when I gave it all up. So then what happens then? Um so well. then I went back into uh into Buds or. SEAL training or whatever. Um and I uh I.

made it two days before graduation and I. got rolled all the way back to the. beginning and then I did the whole. [ __ ] thing again. And why'd you get. rolled all the way back to the. beginning? So I when I went through the. second time I kind of had the attitude. of just like [ __ ] I've already done this. [ __ ] and I just you know also I don't. know I mean I was just in great shape. and I just I wasn't worried about. anything. So my attitude was like okay. well worst case scenario I'm just going.

to get beat and I don't really care. So. I just would I just figured if I passed. everything and I like performed well and. I didn't quit like they couldn't kick me. out. So I kind of didn't really like. kiss ass or anything. I was just like. whatever. Like, you know, and if I. [ __ ] up, it's like okay, I'll get beat. like, you know, I was like pretty hard, dude. I've been training for, you know, like two years and I'd already been. through hell week and now I'm like doing. it without broken legs, you know, like. going through with broken legs. Now I'm. like healed. I'm like [ __ ] you know, like nothing can be bad now. So, it's.

like worse worst can happen. I'm going. get hypothermia. I'm going to have to do. some push-ups, like whatever. And so, I. just didn't really have a good attitude. and I wasn't too worried about um like. the other guys in the class. I figured, you know, would lose most of I mean, started off with. 239 guys and we came through hell week. with like 34. My first class we started. with uh 19 and we came through with 17. So, you're like, you're going to lose. most of these guys. I didn't really I. don't know. I I I mean, I wasn't much of.

a team player. I just want to graduate, you know. So, So, but how' they kick you. back then? Well, so I I got one safety. violation um uh for the instructor gave. the wrong order. We're on the range and. we're facing down range and he gave an. about face and drop. So half the class. just did what we're supposed, you know, we did the about face, we drop, but now. we're like pointing down range, right? So half the class got a safety violation. for that. And then the second one was we. were doing IADS like these uh live fire.

drills and half the class was behind the. burm, the other half was doing it and. then we switched and I was behind the. burm and my off you my What's a burm? It's like a big mount of dirt. Okay. And. my uh the officer in charge of my class, he didn't really like me so he had me on. watch every single night and he put me. on the middle watch. So out on the. island, um, you get 6 hours of sleep. max. If you like fall asleep when you. get off and then you wake up the second. and you don't clean any of your gear, you get six hours. So he put me on a on.

a watch in the middle. So I got maybe. like an hour in the beginning and then I. just wake up for two hours with the. watch and then maybe if I could go back. to bed, I'd get like an hour, maybe two. hours of sleep. So I was running on real. low sleep and um, so I was behind the BM. and I just, you know, I fell asleep. It. wasn't a big deal. Most guys did, but my. boat crew leader didn't wake me up cuz. he didn't like me. So now I'm. technically sleeping during a live fire. drill cuz they did a class muster and. I'm [ __ ] sleeping. And so So guns are. going off and you're sleeping. Yeah. Yeah. I mean Well, I mean other guys did.

too. Yeah. I mean we're just like we're. sitting there cuz it it you know it's. like 40 minutes or something. They're. doing their [ __ ] and we're just laying. there. We're not doing it. We're not. supposed to be involved or you know. we're just they could only have half the. class on the range. So half is just. sitting there and then the other half is. doing it and [ __ ] man like I mean dude. during how I fell asleep standing up you. know so it's like yeah you get tired. enough you fall asleep like no matter. what. So so you came out of that. So. yeah so I got rolled all the way back. So so basically they you know put me in.

front of the thing and and uh and. they're like well you got two safety. violations whatever. And I was just. like, you know, I was like, I didn't. really even explain. I didn't even. really like at the time you're like so. brainwashed that these guys are like. gods that you don't even really want to. argue with them cuz they're your. instructors. It's like you can't even. like have a conversation with these. guys. If they ask you a question like. your answers are like hya like you don't. even say yes or no. It's just like a so, you know, so you're so like conditioned. to not like argue that I didn't really. like defend what happened, you know, cuz. if I would have like walked in there and.

like defended like exact like look like. half the class, you know, just given the. explanation, but I didn't want really. want to like argue with these. instructors cuz you're just like so. brainwashed. Anyways, so I basically. told them, I said, "Look, I you know, I. don't care. I'll go do the whole [ __ ]. thing again." And they're like, "Oh. yeah." And I was like, "Yeah." I was. like, "I'll I'll do the whole [ __ ]. course again." So they rolled me all the. way back. He did the whole [ __ ] thing. again. And uh and this instructor that. didn't like me, he just he couldn't even. find excuses the third time. He just. admin dropped me. I didn't even know. that was like a thing. I didn't know you. could get admin dropped. But yeah, I.

just got admin. So you made it all the. way through and he admin dropped you. Do. you think he stalks your Instagram page. right now? I don't know. But think he. remembers you? Uh probably. Probably. Yeah. I mean, he's probably heard of me. now. I mean, you know, the SEAL. community is definitely, you know, it's. love or hate with me. Like, you know, the guys that know me usually, you know, have good things to say and the guys. that don't usually all talk [ __ ] But. So, you're you get out and then what. happens? So, I get out um I did my four.

years, got out and um I uh I went to. college, went to UF, and did four years. there. And uh my brother, that sounds. like the military, too. I did four. years. Yeah. Paid my dudes. Prison. Yeah. I mean, no, it was it was fun. I. had a great time in college. Um, my. brother taught me how to play poker. Um, like the first year cuz I was getting. all this money from the VA and the GI. Bill and I got grants. I was eligible. for everything, right? So, and that's. where you learned how to play poker. Yeah, my brother taught me. And then, uh, I was playing in college. I was.

playing like some online stuff. I had a. couple fraternity brothers that were. real into it and they taught me a little. bit and there's some home games and. yeah, that's that's how I start. I I. went broke um my sophomore year. So, I. was just like it was a it was a wild. ride. I had to sell some guns. I went. and um played on a gambling boat for. like a week and turned like this I sold. three guns for 750 bucks. Played on this. gambling boat for a week, turned in. 10,000, went to Vegas and then turned.

that into 187,000 at Bellagio after. playing for three weeks straight. Never. forget it. Wow. So, that was the. launching point. 187,000 at the. Bellagio. Three weeks. The Bellagio. created Dan Bilzerian essentially. Yeah. Yeah. They started it. Yeah. So there you go and you just become this. crazy baller poker player character. Well, I mean it was it was a slow rise, you know. I mean it wasn't How long did. it take? Oh, I mean you know that was.

that was that was. 2005, you know. And I actually I mean I. got really lucky. I came into poker at a. time when nobody really knew how to. play. this [ __ ] guy Chris Money Maker. um you know he turned $25 into like a. two or three million dollar win and he. wasn't even that great so it was like. the new gold rush like everybody wanted. to play poker rounders had just come out. you know oh that's what it was that. [ __ ] movie I remember that it was. that you know celebrities started. playing and it was just like it was one. of those things where and there wasn't. really any like training tools like the.

game hadn't been solved like even the. pros weren't that good back then so. really yeah I mean there wasn't it was. just kind of like I mean back in the day. like the old pros the way they won they. just cheated you know really yeah I mean. there was how' they cheat oh [ __ ] I mean. there's mark cards there's you know cold. decks there's a million ways to cheat. I've never played poker I mean I might. have played once in high school or. something like that I've never played my. friend Ari Shafir he when he was. struggling in Hollywood when he he's a.

stand-up comedian and when he uh wasn't. when he's just starting out he would. make his money playing poker he'd go to. poker tournaments and he made way more. money playing poker than he ever did. doing standup. Yeah. Actually, I mean, I'll tell you the story of how I dropped. out of college. Can I piss real quick? Go ahead. Go ahead. No worries, man. One. sec. Go ahead. We're right here. Sorry. I drank a bunch of water. I just want to. point out Dan Bzerian and I wear the. same pants. Both wearing camo pants. I. think he deserves them more than me, though. He went to hell week. I've just. hidden from animals three times. Yeah. But my pants are uh they're fake. I.

mean, I just bought them on Amazon. They're not like uh they're not like. real camo either. It's not like Kuyu or. First Light or anything. What a [ __ ]. character though, huh? That's crazy. [ __ ] right? [ __ ] Like, uh, a lot of. people hate on that dude. I've met him a. couple of times. And it's one of the. reasons why I wanted to do this one. He. seems like a super nice guy. But every. time I've talked to people about him, they like, "Fuck that guy. [ __ ] that. guy. [ __ ] that guy." Easy to hate. There's a lot to be. Of course. Of.

course. I mean, he's like all I mean, the fact that he's not paying those. girls that I find that suspicious. Do. you find that suspicious? You don't? Not. really. I mean, why are they there then? Cuz they can get They don't have [ __ ] to. do. Don't they have jobs? Nah, they're. hot. Probably he loans money. N let's leave some cash around. Could be. the manager. They're getting good gigs. out of it. You know, I'm sure they're. getting good gigs out of it. I mean, look, what the [ __ ] that guy's name?

Cory Feldman. He's got Feldman's Angels. or whatever the [ __ ] that is, right? Hugh Hefner had those the Heft Hefts. chicks. They had like show for a little. while. Well, they he had to pay those. girls. We're talking about uh Hefner. Yeah. Yeah. They're all playmates. See, but that was that was sad to me. That. was more sad to me. Like the Hefner. thing like uh I could see chicks wanting. to bang you. Handsome guy, thick beard, built, you know, military man, got a lot. of guns. That makes sense. The Heftner.

thing was always like, "Oh, those poor. girls." I have I have daughters and I. would I would think about some poor girl. banging Hugh Hefner and just going, "Oh, yeah." But it's not just him. It's kind. of like all these fashion guys. Um. fashion guys. Yeah. Like I mean this, you know, Paul Marciano, I mean, he. bangs every chick that's in Guess, you. know? Okay. Yeah. So, I mean, it's kind. of they set it up, right? Like I mean I. mean my whole thing is kind of like life. setup, right? So you like set up your. life to where you don't really have to. work for what you want, you know? So,

um, you know, [ __ ] for instance, like. if you set it up correctly, like I mean, if you buy a big brand or a modeling. agency or whatever it is, and you're. providing these girls with a career, like for instance, let's let's use Hugh. Hefner. So, if you become a Playmate, you're guaranteed. $25,000. Um, you now you're I mean, this. is back in the day, right? This is like, you know, 10 years ago when Playboy was, you know, hot or what or, you know, 20. whatever. So, so now they're getting. $1,000 for appearance. Before they were.

getting, you know, whatever. But now. they won't, you know, you can't even. show up for less than a grand. So, you're guaranteed more money there. Now. you have a title. Um, as far as. modeling, like you're just going to book. higherend jobs. There's, you know, there's the the Playboy events. So, it's. kind of like, you know, it's like you. [ __ ] this guy, you become a playmate, and now you like have a career. Oh, I. get it. It makes sense. I mean, it makes. sense. But the the factor that's missing. is the fact that you were talking about. before like you're not really into. [ __ ] girls that aren't into you, you.

know? Like that's completely out of the. that's out of the question. Yeah. When. you're a skeleton, you Oh, yeah. Yeah. When you're a skele Yeah. But I mean, when you're a skeleton, like what are. you going to do? You're balling. You. just take Molly and [ __ ] throw down. those Viagra and get the party started. Who gives a [ __ ] Throw that money out. You can't spend it when you're dead. Yeah. when I'm 70, I'm probably going to. be less picky, you know? So Oh, yeah, for sure. But I mean, like I said, it's Yeah. I mean, it's you go for a hot. 50-year-old, but you know, who knows?

Some of those girls might be into it. because he's, you know, he's iconic and, you know, it's like a celebrity thing. Celebrity is another crazy thing. I. mean, it I've I've said it to my buddy. I'm like, money maybe brings five or 10x. girls like, you know, if if you use it, and I'm not talking about using it in. the sense of just paying them. I'm. saying like set up your life to where. like you have a nice life and there's. cool [ __ ] going on, parties, whatever. And then the fame, I think I think it's. like a 100x. I think it's like a hundred. times. Well, for you it's very.

interesting because you're a guy that's. just come into this uh just a few years. ago, four years ago, you know. So, you. were already a man in his 30s and all. this happened and then boom, you become. famous. So, you've got a good. perspective on it. You know, I think uh. for people looking at on the outside, like I don't think any of us could. understand what it'd be like to be. Drake. You know, I've heard that Drake. has the he has parties at his house. I. know a dude who lives near Drake and he. complains about the [ __ ] parties and. uh the I guess parties are so crazy that.

the neighbor complains or Drake bought. his house. Drake's like, "Fuck it. I'll. just buy your house, man." Yeah. He has. girls they they meet at one place then. they get in a bus and then the bus comes. to Drake's house. Yeah. No, I mean he's. he's got it. Yeah. He's definitely has. it on another level. He's super balling. He's super balling. You know, you know. me, I'm [ __ ] saddled down. I'm. married. I got kids. I got daughters, too, dude. I see all this stuff. I have. to watch from afar and go, "Wow, look at.

this action. Look at all this craziness. happening. Look at this wild life." just. a completely different kind of life. But. to um to be a guy like you, it's very. interesting because not only are you. famous, you're famous in like a really. confusing way. You're famous just for. being a baller. Like 100%. Like it's. kind of crazy, right? You didn't write a. book. You're not in any movies. You. don't sing any songs. You're not telling. jokes. You're just balling out of. control. You're balling so hard that. you've become famous. You're way more. famous than me. I mean, what did you say.

you have? How many Instagram followers. you got? What is it? like 19. 19. I. think the total is like 30 something. I. have one. Yeah. I have 1.5 on Instagram. I have uh two on uh on Twitter. I've. been on TV for 20 [ __ ] years. Yeah. It's funny, man. It's It's an. interesting kind of fame. It's a very. different kind of fame. Yeah. I mean, I. just. remember I remember when it kind of hit. me because I was in. Can and I was over there and this, you.

know, this is this is France. I mean, they don't even speak English a lot of. these places. And I mean, I think what. was I [ __ ] 16 girls in 12 days. And I. remember cuz I [ __ ] a girl without. talking to her. And that was when I knew. I made it. Yeah. Cuz she didn't speak. English. And there and I also like I. just kind of like wanted to like just. see if I could do it, you know? I just. like wanted to see if I could actually. have sex with a girl without speaking to. her at all. It was kind of awkward. because like there was times when I. wanted to say something or like there.

was a question asked or whatever like. you know or was like in the middle of. sex like normally like I'll say you talk. dirty or what something but like I made. a point to be a [ __ ] mute, right? And. I actually like pulled it off and I was. like wow like this [ __ ] is real, you. know? Wow. And and and and the time that. I really saw it as sorry, let me it was. it was I mean I was in Canada. It was. before the the no talking thing. I was. at some restaurant and Ron Ron. Pearlman's manager came over to me and.

Ron Pearlman the actor. Yeah. Was he in. Sons of Anarchy? Yeah. Hellboy. He's. done some real [ __ ] you know? He's like. a real dude. Yeah. So he come over and. he's telling me about this new movie. that he wants to do and there's like a. um there's a dad and there's a son or. grandfather's son and a dad and they're. all you know they were all in the. military in different wars and he was. you know talking to me about maybe. playing the son and uh and we're having. you know and I was interested in it um. because I'd done a little bit of acting. up until then and so I was like you know. kind of you know trying to you know. check it out and so I remember it was.

like every 30 seconds or minute somebody. would come up and ask me for a picture. and after like the 20th person, somebody. came up and was like, "Oh, Ron, like, you know, I', you know, love a picture. with you." And I'll never forget it. I'll never forget the rest of my life. He stood up and he goes, "Oh, you want a. picture with me? Like, who the [ __ ] am. I? You sure you don't want a picture. with this guy?" And he was kidding. But. I was just like I was like, "Wow." Like, this is so [ __ ] crazy. Now, here's a. guy that's like, you know, a super. successful actor. He's been in like, you.

know, big like TV series and like all. these people are asking to take a. picture with me. And I was just like, "Wow." God, like this is so [ __ ]. Like, but it was real. I was just like, "Wow, this is like a real thing. This. isn't just like, you know, numbers on. the internet. This is like I'm in a. foreign country and I got all these. [ __ ] people coming up, you know?". Like, I was just I was kind of like I. was dumbfounded. Have you ever read that. thorough quote, most men live lives of. quiet desperation? Yeah, I actually. quoted that on one of my pictures. Oh, it's a great quote. the the mass of men.

or something along the lines of the the. mass of men lead lives of quiet. desperation. Yeah, something along those. lines. That quote [ __ ] I love that. quote. He's got a lot of great ones. He's a brilliant brilliant guy. But that. quote is one of the reasons why I think. your Instagram and everything is so. popular is because there's a lot of. people out there that are stuck in. cubicles or they're stuck in jobs that. they don't want to be there. They don't. want to be doing what they're doing. They're looking at their resources. They're it's so small. They're tired all. the time. They get done from work. They.

don't have any energy to do anything. else. They're saddled down with some. relationship. It's probably not optimal. They're getting yelled at. They're. [ __ ] It's It's not going well. It's. not going well. There's not a lot of. joy. And then they go on your Instagram. You're [ __ ] jet skiing and late me. and it's all the, you know, shooting. guns and your underwear and it's like. it's so it looks so fun, you know. And. yeah, I mean, and I try and be. authentic, you know. another one of his. quotes, you know, rather than love. rather than fame rather than money, give. me truth. And I like that you can have.

all those though. Look, you got it all. You got truth, you got fame, you got. truth is the rare one, you know, that's. a rare one in LA. Well, it is it is rare. because it's difficult to pull off. because most people are not really. comfortable with who they are. So. instead of, you know, instead of uh. fixing that, they just kind of pretend, you know, and like look, that's what. politics is. That's what a business is. is when you put that [ __ ] stupid tie. on and you got those slippery shoes with. the tassels on them and you know. pretending that you really talk like. that, you know, and you're talking about.

dividends and making well we can make. this work and let's touch base on Monday. and hey, great to talk to you and like. shut the [ __ ] up. It's all the political. correctness, the [ __ ] you know, pleasantries, the just the [ __ ] you. know, that's what I wanted to just kind. of get rid of, you Well, I had a. conversation with someone about, you. know, people that have a lot of money. and ballers and and someone goes, "Uh, ah, that seems like such an empty life.". And I don't know if we were talking. about you specifically, but you're like. a perfect example of it. I'm like, "What's what's but here's my point. I'm.

defending you." I'm like, "What's empty. about it? Looks like he's having fun.". Like, what's so great about showing up. to an insurance company every day and. putting in your work? Like, yeah, look, it's very admirable to provide for your. family. It's very admirable to put in. hard work when you don't want to and get. it done. But there's nothing wrong with. figuring out a way to not do that. either. You know, just because you got. stuck in some sort of a weird situation. where you have to [ __ ] grind it out. at some lumber yard every day doesn't. mean that a guy like you who's just got.

some crazy life that he's living where. he figured out a way to make a bunch of. money gambling poker, playing card. games. Like that's not it's not. necessarily a bad thing. Like I look at. all your [ __ ] I don't see any victims. I don't see anything wrong. I see you. having a bunch of fun and I see a bunch. of girls that are laughing. They seem to. be having a bunch of fun. You're flying. to Italy. You're doing all this crazy. [ __ ] I don't see anything wrong. But. yet people get mad and people hate. And. when I have conversations with people,

I'm like, what is shallow about all. these experiences? Like what is what is. so awful? Yeah. I mean, and a lot of. girls have really benefited. You know, I've like built some careers. Like, you. know, Lindsay Pelis, when I started. dating her, she had a 100,000 followers. She bumped up to 1.6 million in 3 weeks. And now this chick's making $500,000 a. year posting pictures on Instagram and. Snapchat. I mean, just just think about. that for a second. Like, she's making. four times as much as a doctor or a. lawyer when they get out of college. And. and and and forget about all their debt.

that they have. You know, let's just say. they come out of college with no debt. She's still making five times more money. than them at four years younger. It's. Well, also the amount of [ __ ] time. they have to spend if you're a doctor. Yeah. Or a lawyer. Not just going. through medical school, not just going. through your residency, but working. constantly working. And she's got to. post a couple pictures. Yeah. Sit on a. couch, post a few pictures. She suck her. fingers. Here's my tea. You know, like. Yeah. Her ass up in the air, high heels. Woo. It's a beautiful world. The world.

of social media is a fascinating world, man. Because like speaking for me. personally as a as a comedian before. social media, I used to have to do so. much work. I used to have to get up. early in the morning and do radio shows. before gigs. I used to have to do. morning TV. You'd have to do interviews. with, you know, I'd do an interview with. some newspaper reporter. That guy did. not want to [ __ ] talk to me and give. a [ __ ] about me. And I try to have fun. with it and maybe he would try to have. fun with it, but for the most part it. was nonsense. You don't have to do any. of that anymore. Social media access.

It's just it's it's just pure uh you. know access and it's it's actually. [ __ ] it up honestly for a lot of these. girls now because. they don't want to go to the clubs like. they don't need to go to parties to meet. celebrities anymore. They can just DM. them like and then you have all these, you know, rich guys that are just having. their, you know, their [ __ ]. coordinator, you know, message all these. girls. Coordinator. Who has a co Who has. a [ __ ] coordinator? So crazy, bro. You. have no idea. Like now these girls are. getting booked out. They're getting. paid, you know, $5,000, $10,000 to just.

go on a vacation. Some of them don't. even have to sleep with any of the guys. I mean, it's just like that seems like. you would never get anything done. Yeah. I mean, and from these girls point of. view, you can't really blame them. I. mean, it's like, [ __ ] if I was one of. these girls and I could travel the world. on a private jet and do all this other, you know, crazy [ __ ] for free and it's. just I mean, oh, I wouldn't blame him at. all. I don't blame him at all. As long. as, you know, as long as nothing awful's. happening. Yeah, I used to know this. guy. We used to call him Wild Man. Uh, a.

buddy of mine used to work at a strip. club. He was a DJ at a strip club. And. there was a guy there that apparently. invented bell bottoms. This is a crazy. story. And uh he had lung cancer. He. smoked cigarettes like packs and packs a. day. And uh no emphyma. And his doctor. was telling him, "Listen, man, you are. going to [ __ ] die. If you don't stop. smoking cigarettes, you're going to. [ __ ] die." And he's like, "I'm just. addicted to smoking." He goes, "Smoke. joints." He's like, they've shown in. studies that smoking marijuana is not. nearly as bad for you and actually it. might act as an expectctor. It might.

help clean your lungs out even though it. sounds contrary to to logical thinking. Uh just give it a try. So this guy. started smoking weed like he would smoke. cigarettes. He just rolling joints. smoking he would smoke like 15 20 joints. a day and he would when he pull up to. the strip club he would give these guys. like his roaches cuz his roaches were. like half done cuz he would smoke them. like he would smoke cigarettes. The guy. changes his entire he gets so high and. he's so high all the time that he's like. I don't want to do any of these things. that I'm doing anymore. He goes this is.

what I want to do. I want to play guitar. and I want to bang chicks and that's all. that's what he decides to do. He. realizes he's like 60 years old and he's. worth some [ __ ] ton of money and this. was like right around when Viagra was. invented. So this guy goes on a. rampage and he's but he's mean. He's. like really nasty and he did what he. would call mad dogging these chicks. So. he'd bring them back to his house and he. would say nasty [ __ ] to him and hit him. and piss on him and all kinds of crazy. [ __ ] apparently. I don't know the full. details of it, but his house was for.

sale. He had this ball baller house in. the Hollywood Hills. And for a while I. was thinking cuz I go to the comedy. store all the time. I'm like, man, maybe. I should buy this [ __ ] house. It's. like it's close to the comedy store. But. I'm like, God, it's like this $5 million. house. It's right on the street. It's. right there. Like you could you like the. sidewalk and then here's his door. Like. you just touch his door. I'm like, "Someone's going to [ __ ] break into. this guy's house." And so the realtor is. like, "No, listen. There's a. state-of-the-art security system in this. place. It's got all these cameras." I. go, "Yeah, you know what that camera's. going to get? It's going to get a.

picture of a dude with a ski mask. robbing your [ __ ] house." Like, do. you understand that? Like, what is what. is a camera going to do? Like, how is. it? Two weeks after I said that, the. dude got shot in the neck in the [ __ ]. house. Wow. He brought he used to bring. the hookers to his house. He used to. bring him to his house and he brought. one to his house and she brought her. boyfriend and they shot him in the neck. Wow. Yeah. There's a lot of setup stuff. like that. Yeah. Yeah. But so you see. that's a bad guy. That was a guy doing. bad [ __ ] I don't see anything wrong. with anything you're doing. I see I see.

happiness. I look at your Instagram. I. see a bunch of people laughing. I like. the music you're playing. You playing. good songs that I would listen to. It. looks like a [ __ ] party. Oh, nothing. wrong here, people. Everybody needs to. relax. Yeah, I mean I'm just uh you know. doing some wish fulfillment now. Do you. have like do you have a like a plan. charted out for this existence or are. you just winging it?

Well, I got this app coming out um where. it's going to be kind of similar to like. what Worldstar does where you can, you. know, users can upload, you know, their. badass videos, right? So, anything kind. of like, you know, similar to the stuff. that I post or, you know, fights or. whatever crazy cool videos that they. want, they can post on there and, you. know, I'll just share the best ones on. my, you know, Facebook or Instagram or. whatever. So, they're, you know, if they. post cool [ __ ] on there, they're. guaranteed to get, you know, a ton of. shine. Yeah. And that's why they post on. Worldstar, you know, it's because they.

want, you know, people to see it. So, um, I'm, you know, I'm going to do that. I got this uh fantasy betting app that I. got. Um it's uh you know it's like. similar to uh the DraftKings of the. fantasy sports stuff. Um I don't know. just you know I've been focusing more on. you know doing some stuff like that. I've kind of just done everything I. wanted to do you know in this you know. as far as like the partying and buying. [ __ ] you know. Yeah. So well that's why. I was asking I'm like well how much more.

can you do you know? Yeah. I mean I've. checked most of the boxes man. So now I. kind of just want to, you know, give. people a platform to How much money have. you made playing poker? I don't know. I I mean, if you had a. guess in the neighborhood, I mean, I know I mean, you know, I just. know the big figures. I mean, I you. know, I beat one guy for 54 million. I. mean, I won 10 and a half in another. night. I beat another guy for 10. And.

then, you know, I don't know what the. total is on the, you know, other cash. games, but I mean, I've I don't know. I. mean, I made a lot. But do you have. enough stashed away where that was just. in, you know, a six month or a year. period, you know? So, it's like, you. know, I don't know. Did you take a chunk. and put it away and say, "Okay, this is. my break glass in case of apocalypse. fund." I mean, I've bought some gold. and, you know, and I got uh I mean, I. own my stuff. my phone, my plane, and my. house and my cars and my I mean I cash.

in the bank. I'm I'm doing all right, you know. Yeah, but I mean uh this like. that. First of all, that's crazy, right? It's crazy that you went from being a. Navy Seal to being a college student. who's learning how to play cards. Well, well, you know, preparing or trying to. attempt to be a Navy Seal, going to. college and learning how to play cards. to a guy who's got his own [ __ ] jet. A guy I mean, and all from gambling. I. mean, that's that's that's bizarre in. and of itself, but do you do you ever. think like there's a time where I'm not.

going to want to do this anymore? Yeah. I mean, I'm, you know, I'm kind of at. the point, like I said, where I've done. most of the stuff that I wanted to do. Um, so now I'm just I'm kind of winging it. I've been doing more active stuff. I've. been doing uh like some wake surfing and. we just went out to Lake Powell and um. you know, winter's coming up, some doing. some snowboarding trips, snowmmoiling. and [ __ ] like that. It was still just. more fun. Yeah, just having fun, but. doing like more active stuff, less. partying. Um I mean, still have the. girls around, but.

um yeah, I mean, I got the I I did a. cartoon. It's uh I'm about to release. that. Wait a minute. Did Didn't you have. two heart attacks in like one night or. something? That's actually one of the. cartoon episodes. What the [ __ ] happened? How did you have. two heart attacks? You want to watch the. cartoon? Do you have the cartoon? Do we. watch it? Yeah. Throw the cartoon up. How do we How do we get to it? Tell. Jamie. Give Jamie the address. Uh, yeah. I'm sure you could drop it to Jamie. Or. do you have it on your phone? Is that. what it is? It's not online anymore. I. got it on my phone. Oh, can you can you. aird drop it to you, Jamie? Does that. work? Uh, I can't airdrop it, but I.

could air play it if you got an an Apple. TV. Yeah, we have an Apple TV, but we. can't play it online. That just be us. watching it in here. We couldn't we. couldn't hear it or anything. I can't. put it on that. You can, but I don't. have that. That's not in this current. system here. It's not built into this to. display. Um, let me see. Can we fix. that? Can we make that happen or is that. We can in the f Yeah. Okay. But we need. a different setup or something. I need. some extra inputs. Yeah. Yeah. Do that. another time. Okay. We'll do it another. time. Um we're going to call my guy and.

see if I can get you a link. You want to. give me give me one second? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Call your guy. All. right. Give me a second. Dan Bilzerian, but we'll be right back, ladies and. gentlemen. He's going to call his guy. Not to be confused with his [ __ ]. coordinator. Yeah. He doesn't have one. of those. I'm I'm looking. You're. looking for a [ __ ] coordinator? I know. some dudes. What a crazy. life. It's bizarre, right? I. just, you know, people people will tell. you, uh, that's going to get tired. Well, guess what? So is being married to.

a lot of people. Not to me, Jamie. So. is, uh, working in a regular job. That's. got to be tired, too. I love the fact. that this is a real thing that all of a. sudden because of social media some guy. can gather up 50 [ __ ] million. followers. It's also become I don't know. how to word this right but like you know. how people start calling the Michael. Jordan you be the Michael Jordan of this. because you're the greatest of whatever. he's starting to become people are. calling so and so the Dan Bilzerian of.

of X. Oh yeah. Well become so there's. that uh that Italian guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that Giovano Vachi the old that. old guy is my age. Isn't that sad? God. damn, I'm old, bro. Sad. Every now and then I wake up and I. got some new pain and uh I just think, is this pain like forever? Is this going. to heal? Like I got this hip thing. that's going on lately. And uh it's not. bad. Like I did uh kickboxing today and. no problem, no pain while I'm working.

out, but every now and then it like. irritates me. And instead of it like. when I was young, if I had something. that irritated me, I would say, "Ah, some [ __ ] nothing. I'll get over. that." But that's also why I developed a. bunch of chronic injuries from jiu-jitsu. because I would go and train even though. I had something [ __ ] up. It's also. because jiu-jitsu is really fun. But I. don't think like that anymore, man. Now. I think, is this like broken? Like is. this do am I going to need a hip. replacement? Like I know guys that are. my age that have [ __ ] I know guys. younger than me that have had hip.

replacements. I started thinking like, is this [ __ ] broken forever? You got. your guy? I I talked to him. He's. telling me I can't I can't show it. You. can't show it. Who the [ __ ] is that guy? You got a guy that tells you what to do? I'm tell fire your team, dude. I'm. available. I work for free. I pretty. much fire them all. I don't I don't. listen to anything. Fire them all. I. have a team, too. I don't listen to them. either. Nobody should listen to teams, you know. I agree. I mean, I obviously don't know.

[ __ ] about poker. I don't know nothing. about your business. I'm not a gambler, but I can advise you. Fire the whole. thing. Fire everybody. Keep doing. exactly what you're doing. Listen to me, dude. I'm telling you, I'm right. I have. no experience in your business. I'm. totally unqualified, but I will give you. uh some sound advice. Yeah. Um, you know that Italian guy that. people keep comparing to you, that guy. who dances around a lot? Oh, I've seen. him. Yeah. Did he have some health. issue? What's going on with him? Really? Did he? I don't know. I I thought so, but I don't know. That was the last I'd.

heard. Oh, I didn't hear that. Yeah. What's his name? Giovan Vachi or. something like that. Well, I I became. aware of him because there's a hilarious. video of him and his girlfriend dancing. Oh, yeah. It's great. Really good. dancer, right? [ __ ] great dancer. [ __ ] yeah. But this thing, here's the. thing, man. Everybody's like, I saw this. thing like something about Sugar Daddy. and like cuz she's young and hot and. he's got gray hair. That [ __ ] is. my age. Like, that's how old I am, dude. 49. The end is near. The end is near, Jamie. There he is. Yeah, I know. He.

looks great, right? Yeah. Well, it's. just the hair. I mean, if he had uh. black hair, he would look uh it'd look. younger, right? Oh, for sure. I mean, he. just has pre Well, I have a buddy of. mine who's 30. His hair is almost all. white. I mean, it's just some some dudes. have premature hair. And he's got a. banging girlfriend, but he's got one. See, you can't call him the Dan. Bilzerian of Italy. I mean, he's. obviously a baller. He's living good. You know, he's balling. He's got one. girl. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure he's happy. He looks very happy. She looks very. happy. Everybody looks happy. I feel.

like he's doing a lot of stuff for. Instagram. Like, he's posted a lot. He's. trying to get on that Dan Bilzerian. level. I think he What's he at? What. level's he at? 5 million. How many? But. look how many giant jump. He's done. twice as many posts as I've done in the. last 5 years. And he's done it in I. think like six months. Yeah. Very. quickly. So, he's posting a lot. Well, not only that, his [ __ ] became uh really. popular like really recently. Like I. want to say when I became aware of him, he only had two million followers. But.

like if you look at his stuff though, it. kind of looks like, you know, it's like. a lot of photo shoots, right? Like. exactly. Kind of looks like a lot of. staged. Yeah. Oh, look. I found a goat. Yeah. Look, it's me with a goat. Yeah. Yeah. He's He's got a lot of money. Look. at that. Come on, son. Like that doesn't. just accidentally happen, right? Yeah. You don't just accidentally get. photographed on a horse with no shirt on. white pants and with prison tattoos. What's with all the prison tattoos? He's. got like a bunch of writing on his. chest. Yeah. What does that all say? Do. we know what his tattoos say? There must.

be like a website dedicated to his chest. tattoos. Look, he's there with Pitbull. Look, there he is. Yeah. Come on. He's. so happy. No, I mean he looks like he. looks like a cool cat. He does. I don't. like what he's doing. His beard, though. He's got that little thing that he puts. at the bottom of his beard. He twists it. up and puts like a little rubber band. around it. Get the [ __ ] out of here. I. don't know what the [ __ ] that is. I will. pull that thing off. I see you, sir. I'm. going to grab that thing. That's a. goddamn handle. I don't understand that. Yeah, he's a He's a fun cat, though. His. videos are really fun. No, he he can the.

[ __ ] guy can dance. Hats off to him. Oh, man. Pull that. See if you can find. that one video of him with the girl. The. first one they did on the boat that got. him really famous. I want to say that. was only four or five months ago. And I. really I don't know how many millions. in the last 5 months he's really like. he's gone hard like but there's some. stuff I mean it's like he set up a. dinner table I saw a picture he set up a. dinner table underwater where he could. like pretend like he was eating.

underwater and then he did like a whole. like a whole skit where he was like. underwater doing all this stuff I'm like. [ __ ] man that must have taken you like a. [ __ ] full day to like he's wearing a. suit and I'm just like [ __ ] man well. he's going a different approach instead. of the uh baller approach like shooting. guns in his underwear. What he's doing. is he's got like this one beautiful. girlfriend and they just have a good. time all over the world. It seems I mean. it's a it's a different approach, but. here's the thing. No, but I like that. I. I dig that. I'm just saying like there. he is. That's it. No, that's awesome. I.

mean, this [ __ ] can dance. No, he can he can [ __ ] cut some hugs and. he looks like he's having a good time. No, 100%. That but see that that that. that that's cool to me. Like the other. stuff that's like it seems like a lot of. efforts put into it is not not quite but. that that's dope. I mean, chick seems. cool. [ __ ] dance. Looks like. he's having fun. I mean, like, listen, if you got that kind of money, why. wouldn't you be dancing? Yeah, should be. dancing. That's awesome. Should be. partying your [ __ ] And he is just I. don't understand his tattoos. I'm. confused about the ankle one. What's.

going on down there? Maybe it's like his. ex-wife's name. Like, [ __ ] you, [ __ ]. You're [ __ ] covered. He's in good. shape, though. Yeah, he is. [ __ ] You. know, yeah, he's in very good shape for. a 49year-old. That's my age. God damn. it. I'm [ __ ] 49, man. This It's just. the end is near. I don't know. You're in. the right time time frame. I'll tell you. what. Cuz they got the stem cells. They. got the H. I've already had a gang of. it. All the stem cells. Oh yeah, man. Stem cells fix my [ __ ] shoulder. Like. people are tired of hearing about it on. this podcast. Was that Was that. Reenocine or was that stem cell? I had.

Reenicine done on my shoulder, too. It. didn't help as much. I had some pretty. significant tearing. Um uh slap tear. I. had a tear of the um the labreum, a tear. of the biceps tendon, and a tear of the. rotator cuff. Oh wow. I did the rotator. cuff. I Basically, I I couldn't even. lift my arm like 3 in. I did the Regenic. and then 3 weeks later I was boxing like. Well, the Reenicon did wonders for my. back. It just wasn't enough for my. shoulder. But again, I'm an idiot. I. don't give it enough time off. But uh I. was I I mean I literally from like this.

3 weeks later I was boxing like Yeah, that is amazing. Pretty aggressive, right? I mean, and and by the way, all. the doctors told me I needed surgery. The same thing to me. Now, I've had that. said to me twice. I need surgery on my. neck and I've heard I need surgery on my. shoulder. I avoided both of them and I. do everything now. Yeah. But one of the. things about shoulder injuries that I. found from uh Steve Maxwell, he's a. pretty famous uh strength and. conditioning coach that's been on this. podcast a bunch of times is uh hanging. hanging from chin-up bars. It's it's so.

uh important to do. It's so good for. your shoulders to straighten out your. shoulders. I thought you were going to. say bad. I was like [ __ ] cuz I've done a. lot of that. So No, no, no. It's really. good for you. There's a whole video. about it where this doctor who was a. shoulder surgery doctor stopped doing. shoulder surgery on most of his patients. and started them on this this uh hanging. therapy cuz when you h see most human I. mean human beings essentially were. primates and most primates swing from. trees. I mean that is what they do. They.

grab a hold of things and they swing and. it stretches out your arm and you. develop impingements from gravity, from. a lack of use or from too much use or. overuse. And this guy has you hang from. a chin-up bar just just holding on and. hanging and it stretches out your. shoulder and it alleviates pain in a. giant percentage of people that have. shoulder injuries. And I urge anybody. who's listening to this that has any. sort of shoulder weirdness or some [ __ ]. that [ __ ] with them to just try this. I.

know it sounds crazy like how the [ __ ]. is hanging by your shoulders going to. help you? And this is one doctor. The. This is not the doctor that uh invented. the procedure, but he basically explains. it really well. There's a bunch of them. Uh what did you uh Google so people can. shoulder pain hanging from bar and. there's a lot of things that start. popping up as you there's a gang of but. it's super effective. It's super. effective for a lot of people. I mean, if you have like significant tearing. where you're going to need surgery, you. have a failure of your joint or. something like that, you know, that's. one thing. But for a lot of people, this.

offers them a a great deal of relief and. it really helps me. I do it every day. It's one of the first things I do in the. morning. I hang and then I do uh scapula. raises for archery, you know. So, I I. hang I'll do like two minutes of hanging. and then once I've done two minutes, then I just I contract my scapula and I. hold that in place for as long as I can. So it's like my hands are given out, my. forearms are given out and then I I. force my scapula to carry all the. weight. Interesting. And I you make it a. daily routine. Just make it this is what.

I do. I brush my teeth. I do that. I. just have to do it. So I'm forcing. myself. I have zero pain. Zero pain in. my shoulders. But the stem cells was a. big factor. So now are you getting the. infusion or are you getting the like h. how how are you getting it? Like I or. Yeah. Um well they what they do is they. take it from a woman a young woman who's. had a cescareian section when they give. birth through cescareian section they. take the placenta and then they use that. for stem cells and that apparently is. the most powerful version of stem cell.

therapy. There's a bunch of different. kind of they use in this country uh that. a lot of people like a lot of people. like it when they take your fat out. They take your fat out and they convert. that to stem cells. My buddy did that. but uh Daniel Cormier they went into his. hip. They they got his marrow. That's. what I did. I got the 19-year-old bone. marrow from someone else. Oh, okay. Um, Daniel Cormier, they went into his own. hip and and pulled it out. But I've. heard great results from a lot of. different versions of stem cells, but I. know for me personally, when they shot. the uh the stuff from placenta into my.

shoulder, it was like within a couple of. weeks, it was better than it had been in. a year. And then uh a few months after. that, I was like no pain. It was It's. amazing how quick it's healed. And I. also did a lot of shoulder exercises. with rubber bands and stuff. A lot of. different things that I concentrate on I. do all the time now to strengthen up the. area and keep it tight. Did you But you. haven't done the uh the IV stuff. Oh, you did that, huh? Yeah, I've done that. twice now. Boss Routin did that. He told. me that it was like he goes it was like. the power was coming out of my hands.

Bro, it's pretty crazy. I mean, I. basically the It was weird though. first. time I did it, it it seemed like I had a. lot more of a profound effect than the. second. But the first time, so I went. down to Mexico because you can't do it. in the US. So I went down there, I got. like 90 million uh of the 19-year-old. bone marrow uh that been oxygen. deprived, whatever, and and they. injected in you. Um the next day I went. to get some dental work done. I think.

had a root canal, whatever it was, but. they injected 25 vials of like lidocaine. or novocaane, whatever it is. And they. said that my body was just cycling it. through like instantaneously, right? So, I had all this dental work done. The. next day, I was completely healed from. all the dental work, which is pretty. crazy. What? Yeah. And they said they've. never given anybody that much lidocaine. ever. Um, even you know, and and and. they're like, you know, the guy asked me. if I do Coke. And I'm like, no, like I I. haven't done that since I was 25. He's. like, yeah. is like normally like nobody. can you know needs this much unless they.

have some kind of a thing and I'm like. actually normally really drug sensitive. I also found that um cuz I do uh uh HRT. and I found that when I did the shots. like I it was like a lot people listen. it's hormone replacement therapy. Yeah. And um and so. basically I found that it just cycled. all these drugs faster through my. system. So I'd get a stronger effect but. then it'd be out. Um and then I went to. the gym. They said you're not supposed. to work out for 3 days or whatever. I. went to the gym. I think it was like. four or five days later and I was like.

20 I think 20% stronger. And I mean I've. been training for 20s something years. I've done everything. So to get like 20%. strength increase is just [ __ ] crazy, dude. I'm going to Mexico. It was so. nuts. What part of Mexico? Where do you. go? Exactly. Tijana Tijuana. It's so dangerous. No, I. had it was like it was like sakario. I. had I had like the armored cars. I I. like made them give me a machine gun. I. was like, "Yes, yes." I had like a. machine gun, which You wanted your own.

machine gun while you're down there? Just in case [ __ ] goes down, you don't. want these guys to get shot. Well, that. place like the [ __ ] wild west, man. You know, at least if I'm going out, I. want to have a gun, you know? Tijana. seems to me like, yeah, it's the Wild. West, but they don't want to [ __ ] it up. because there's the money is made all. through tourism. Like, if somebody gets. gunned down or kidnapped, nobody wants. to go to Tijuana. So you rarely hear. about anything going down in Tijana. except those drug murders, but that was. just the last ones with those beheadings. which were that was like a decade ago. Pretty gnarly [ __ ] I I mean I I just.

know that they didn't want me to fly my. plane down there. I did anyways, but. they're like, "Yeah, you should probably. charter." And you know, you should. probably drive. Why don't you drive? It's not that long. Uh I don't know. Last time I went, I mean, I hadn't been. down there since the military, but just. seemed like the border crossing going. back just took forever. It's a. nightmare. And now they want you to have. a p I mean I don't know just back in the. day it was easy. We used to walk across. driver's license. Yeah. Yeah. Driver. Yeah. When did they make it a passport. thing? It was Canada too, right? Yeah. Uh yeah. Yeah. Well, Canada's been like.

that. But Mexico, I think used to not be. like Or maybe Canada used to be No, Canada used to be licensed when I used. to go to Montreal. I used to No, you're. right. You're right. You're right. Because I used to go fishing trips with. Yeah. So I I don't know. Oh, I don't. know how long ago it was, but they. definitely uh definitely changed a lot. since, you know. Dude, I want to get. these injections just for no reason. I. just want to I did it for no reason. And. I was like I just like [ __ ] it. How come you only did it once? No, I did. it twice. Oh, you did it twice? Yeah.

But the second time I just felt like I. just left I actually went like straight. from Burning Man down there. Um and uh I. I only got 70 and I just I don't know. I. I did a fast before. Um, and I kind of. like and I got I kind of got sick and. then I I took some antibiotics. They say. you're not supposed to take antibiotics. I don't know. I maybe I [ __ ] it up. I'm not really sure. But I just remember. the first time was a distinctly. uh like super strong effect. Yeah. Well,

I believe Boss Root went to South. America. I think Do you remember where. he said he went, Jamie? Peru. Did he say. Peru? Yeah. My buddy does in Cancun. I. know they were doing it in in Germany. Yeah. I think Disseldorf. I mean there, you know, it's it's all it's just. basically anywhere that's not in the US, I think. Yeah. Well, we got [ __ ]. during the Bush administration when they. did these sweeping ban on stem cells. because of the religious right. They. wanted Exactly. They don't want you to. play God and you know, Well, it wasn't. just that. It's like they were concerned. stem cells were connected to fetal.

tissue and uh there was this whole idea. that people were going to get abortions. on purpose just to get the fetal tissue. and sell the stem cell. Yeah. And they. probably would. I mean, someone probably. would. it probably wouldn't be a lot of. people, but it'd be enough that it would. be an issue with some folks. So, because. of that, all these European countries, especially Germany, got way ahead of the. curve when it comes to stem cell. research and and and applications in the. medical industry. And you know what. we're seeing now, you know, you. obviously know Regene was invented in. Germany. That's how I found out about it.

for doing it on his knee like [ __ ] I. think it was like 20 years ago or. something crazy. I mean, do you know. Mickey Rock? I've met him twice. Tell. him to settle down. Just calm down, dude. He's He seemed like a cool cat. He. was He does seem like a good guy, right? Just calm down. Yeah, he's uh whatever. you're doing, don't do that anymore. Just just relax. What a [ __ ] what a. [ __ ] actor, though. The wrestler was. like one of my favorite movies. I. thought that was How about Pop Greenwich. Village, man? I mean, go back to some of. his old [ __ ] Angel Heart. Yeah, it's a. bad [ __ ] I mean, it was good. I.

just The wrestler just seems so. authentic. I don't know. It just Yeah, I. just like that movie a lot. Well, it was. perfect for him at the time, too, because he was an older guy and, you. know, and he was kind of [ __ ] up on. his own. He looked apart. It was just. like, man, he was perfect for it. No, he's a [ __ ] amazing actor. And people. forget that cuz he's kind of a freak. now. But if you if you go back to his. earlier stuff and you see like how good. he was in Diner, you know, I mean, he's. a [ __ ] he was amazing. He was. amazing.

But, uh, yeah, whatever he's doing, don't do that anymore. But uh I know Payton Manning went down. there to Germany and um so now let me. ask you is that is that stuff banned in. professional sports? Regen? No no no no. no not the not the healing stuff. I'm. talking about just like stem cell. infusions. No no not yet. Oh wow. But. could be soon. Um I mean it really I. don't know how you I mean I don't know. if you could test for that. I mean it's. like you cuz the thing what I've been.

told is you cannot tell the difference. between a regular like a stem cell from. you or a stem cell from me or whatever. if it's been scrubbed and it's in your. system. I mean, it's like a they said to. me a stem cell is a stem cell, but well, um I pay very close attention to the. latest cutting edge research for doping. because of the UFC and because uh I'm. friends with Jeff Nitzky, who is the guy. who busted Lance Armstrong, who's of. course the guy who works for the UFC. now. And he and I talk all the time and. um it's really [ __ ] interesting how. these people who are trying to get ahead.

are like way they're way ahead of the. people that are trying to detect it. So, like now they're developing testosterone. from animals, which is interesting. because you're seeing people that are. taking testosterone. It's exogenous. testosterone, but it used to be that. they were getting it from wild yams. So, what they would do is they would do. carbon isotope tests and they would be. able to detect that the testosterone. inside of your body is not from uh a. biological, it's not from an animal. The. testosterone is actually coming from a. yam. It's a Mexican wild yam. It's.

really interesting. Wow. Um, but now. they're they're figuring out a way to. extract it from animals at least. theoretically. So Nitzky's Nitzky says. like it hasn't been proven yet, but. they're pretty sure. So what they're. doing now is they're taking people's. piss and blood and then they freeze it. and they hold on to it for eight years. So the idea is that eight years from now. they're going to find out like new. detection methods and they're using. those Olympics now, which is why two. Russian Olympic gold medalists in. wrestling got their medals taken away. from 2008. Oh wow. Yeah. And they.

haven't even gone to 2012 yet. So. there's 2012, 2016. I mean, there's. there's these guys are going to get. [ __ ] over for sure, but you know, Russia has an extensive state sponsored. anti-doping agency. Yeah. Well, they. also are pretty uh big advocates of I. mean, they were the ones that started. it, right? I mean, like back in the. Germans, too. Yeah. Well, they started. it, but also what's interesting is the. scientists that were involved in the. program, they all got whacked. They're. killing these [ __ ] left and.

right because all the people that know. when when one guy blew the whistle, one. of the Russian anti-doping guys blew the. whistle. Um, apparently they just. started icing these [ __ ] See. if you can pull that up, Jamie. Like how. many Russian anti-doping scientists have. been murdered. Wow, that's crazy. They. don't [ __ ] around over there, man. They. don't [ __ ] around. And like and and and. from what I've heard, like Putin's like. really into the sports, too. So he's. like Oh, yeah. He's into fighting. loves. Fedor. Fedor Millionenko. Yeah. Whatever.

happened to that guy? [ __ ] time. [ __ ] time got him, you know, and. Jesus got him. Got super into Jesus. Oh, really? Yeah. He uh he changed his body. changed. Um I don't know. It's. indicative of his training methods. Well, he never really had much of a body. on him. Always like a guy. Yeah, that's. what I'm saying. It's so strange to me. when you see guys like him or especially. guys like Country Nelson. And it's just. like this guy train like I just don't. understand how you could train all the. time and look like like this is like so.

crazy to me, right? Like I know. Especially Roy, right? Yeah. That's what. I'm saying. Yeah. Big country. Yeah. It's like Well, Roy, he wears it like a. bag badge of courage, too. And I think. Roy, if he just if Roy got super. disciplined and lost a ton of weight, he. would be fighting at 185 lbs and he. would be knocking [ __ ] to the. moon. He'd been invincible with that. [ __ ] chin that this guy's been. getting crack. He like the big guys. can't knock him out. How the [ __ ] are. the little guys, right? Well, unfortunately, his chin started to fail. him in recent years. I mean, a couple. Mark Hunt knocked him out. Yeah, but.

that's just kind of like time, right? But I'm just saying like, you know, genetically the guy was like blessed. with like, you know, the freakiest chin. of all time. Crazy, right? So, it's like. I just But I just I never understood how. you could train that much cuz I I mean, obviously it's genetics, but I just. remember, you know, when I was in the. military, like going through and I would. eat like pizzas. I would eat butter. I. mean, I was trying to like gain fat cuz. it was so [ __ ] cold in this water and. I just couldn't do it. Yeah. You know, like granted, we were probably training. more hours, but like [ __ ] I don't know. I mean, a lot of these, you know, UFC.

guys that I know, they train 6 hours a. day. I mean, it's just like Yeah. I. don't know what Roy eats, but it's not. good. Whatever it is, it's most likely a. lot of carbs. Most likely he's uh just. taking in a lot of sugar, a lot of. carbs, and his body doesn't know what to. do with it. And it just he must just. have a slow metabolis. I just I don't. know. Could be. I don't know. Um, he he. certainly trains hard. He's got. endurance. I mean, Roy doesn't gas out. I mean, he gets tired like everybody. else does, but it's not like a fatigue. issue. Yeah. No, it's What's crazy is I. I knew Roy way back in the day, and Roy. was known as being like a really good.

grappler. He was a Brazilian jiu-jitsu. competitor. I I knew him before he ever. did MMA. And when he did MMA, my thought. was, "Oh, well, you're going to see some. highlevel grappling from this guy. This. guy's like a stud on the mat." Nope. Just started bombing guys out on the. ground. Hardly ever. Well, the one time. we really see his jiu-jitsu was in um. the Andre Arloski fight when he's. fighting in Elite XC. Took Arloski down, had him in side control, but Elite Now. Elite XC was they were really corrupt. and they had this weird thing where if. you were on the ground for more than 15.

seconds, they'd stand you up. So, he's. on the ground in side control with a. double double wrist lock going for a. kamura on Arlovski and they stand him up. and he w up getting stopped by Arloski. But that was so crazy. But that was. that, you know, they were making Kimbo. Slice their their poster boy and they. were it was like Gary Shaw was promoting. it. He was a boxing guy and he had his. own idea about how to promote it and. they weren't MMA friendly. It was just. they wanted excitement. They didn't. really want to promote like in a pure. sense of the sport, you know? So, it was.

uh the whole thing was kind of [ __ ]. But I remember I saw Kimbo. I was down. in Miami and I saw one of his fights or. whatever and they had like some. alternate guy like come in off the couch. and this guy knocked him out like Seth. Peter 10 seconds. It was just so crazy. That was a bad fight. They should have. never taken that fight. Seth Petraelli. is very good. And when I saw that, I had. known that Kimbo was a a tough guy. He. was a really good guy, too. Unfortunately, he passed away recently, which is kind of [ __ ] up cuz he had a. bad heart and he was scheduled for. another fight. Did they ever figure out. what it was? It was just bad heart. He.

had some congenital heart defect, you. know? I mean, I don't know if it was. genetic. I don't know if it was. something that happened along the way. I. don't know. But he was a really good. guy. like pretty much universally loved. Really good guy. His story is so crazy. I heard the guy like basically almost. like walked onto the football team like. Yeah. So nuts. Like living on the. streets like Yeah. I mean just a tough. tough guy. Knew how to punch and um you. know would when I found out about him I. found out about him like everybody else.

did through these YouTube videos. Did. you ever see when he fought Shawn Ganon? I don't I don't Sean Ganon was a cop. Oh. yes. Yeah. Yeah. The white guy, right? Yeah. tall tall big white guy. See if. you find that in uh Sean Ganon versus. Kimbo Slice. They had a dojo war. Yeah. And he was a cop in Massachusetts and uh. he got in trouble for beating up Kimbo. and like he got suspended I think from. the police force. Yeah, there he is. right there. This is a crazy fight, man. They just had this this brawl in the.

middle of this dojo. I think Kenny. Florian was there and people were. posted. This was on on mixed martial. arts.com, which is the greatest martial. arts website on the internet. Uh, back. in the day, we all watched this [ __ ]. live. I I don't remember if we had to. pay for it. It was streaming on some. website or something like that. These. guys are banging it out. I like it. Bare. I remember this. I definitely. remember being like, "Fuck, this guy. could [ __ ] throw some punches." Oh, yeah. The first time he got tested, right? Yeah. This is Well, Sean Ganon is.

a tough [ __ ] I mean, tough as. hell. longtime cop, real martial artist, had a bunch of pro fights. And uh there. was like all these like discrepancies. about the rules because he's got him in. a standing guillotine and they're. they're trying to break it up and. there's all you got to let go and all. this different [ __ ] So he lets go and. then it winds up going to the ground. like there was it was all stacked. against Ganon. Yeah. Because you know. they they didn't want Kimbo to get. submitted. Yeah. Nobody wanted the. legend to die, right? Yeah. And you know. Ganon's got a hold of this guillotine. He doesn't want to let it go and then.

Kimbo winds up getting him down on the. ground. So then Kimbo's ground and. pounding him. See, like this, this is. supposed to be illegal, too. You're not. supposed to be able to do this. But. Ganon had a [ __ ] head like a fire. hydrant and it just super game and great. endurance. And so Kimbo's used to taking. these guys out and he couldn't take. Ganon out. And Ganon eventually beat him. down. And they had some crazy nonsense. like a 30 count. Like when he goes down, you count to 30 before you get back up. I'm not kidding. And he beat it once. He.

beat it once and then Ganon got him. knocked him down again. But like you can. see Kimbo starting to get tired and that. was the big thing. But so he goes from. this and then starts fighting in Elite. XC and has some great fights, man. Some. really good fights. The James Thompson. fight was kind of controversial as well, but I knew him as like a pretty tough I. mean really tough. But as far as like. professional skill set, you know, he. wasn't like at the elite level. And so.

when he fought Petraelli, I was like, "Oh my god, he's going to get [ __ ]. up." Like this is a terrible fight for. him. Petraelli is like he's a world. class fighter. And that happened real. quick. Yeah. No, I remember I was Yeah. I was like front row for that thing. So. tell me about your heart attacks if you. can't show me the video. Yeah. Uh so. basically, yeah, I uh I was I think it. was Yeah. 25. Um I was on a ski trip. my. fraternity brothers. We were in. uh Park City, Utah, I think. Yeah, Park. City. And uh we just been partying. I I.

uh I met this chick in the lift line. Ended up uh getting her number and went. to the bar and I got like everybody's. [ __ ] face. It was like 300 bucks, right? Got the whole bar drunk. We, you know, we're having fun. We go back to her. house. We're banging till like 7:00 in. the morning or 6:00 in the morning. And. then I get a call like I just showered. I was like just started sleeping and my. buddy's like, "Hey, it's the last. [ __ ] day. Like, we're going. Like, let's ride." And I was just like, "Ah, [ __ ] it. All right, sure." So, I took a.

shot. I drank some coffee. Like, got my. [ __ ] on. Went out. We took a shot of. booze. Yeah. Shot tequila. Jesus Christ. Wow. I was like, "Fuck." I mean, you. know what? I mean, if you don't if you. keep drinking, you don't get hung over, right? So, I was like, "Fuck it." So. went rode all day and then that night I. don't know I don't know if it was like a. stomach flu or what but I was just like. puking and I just like felt like [ __ ]. and I just like couldn't keep anything. down. I remember I paid like the hotel. guy like a hundred bucks who gave me a. bunch of Gatorade cuz I couldn't even. like leave my room. So next day go to.

the airport and I knew that if I got an. IV I would feel better cuz I've like had. some you know you know when you get. dehydrated that's usually like the root. of most your problems. So, I just like. end up buying an IV from this medic cuz. the guy's like, "Well, if I hook this up. to you, you know, like you're not going. to be able to fly." And I was like, "Dude, like, you know, I gave him a. bunch of bullshit." I was like, "Oh, I'm, you know, a [ __ ] medic from the. military and, you know, this and that. and, you know, qualified to do this, you. know." Anyways, guy to [ __ ] sell me. the bag, you know, basically just gave. it to me. I hooked it up myself like on. the plane. Had you ever done this.

before? Yeah, we did it a couple times. when we were in Buds, like if we went. out drinking or whatever and uh and we. had to like train the next day or This. is a commercial flight or a private. flight? Commercial. Yeah. So, a p a. commercial flight you hook up an IV bag. Yeah. Well, in the bathroom like Yeah. Before I got on there, right? So, I go. in the bathroom like hook this thing up, you know. Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you got to wait like an hour, right? So, I'm like, what else are we going to do? So, I [ __ ] you know, hook this thing. up, start feeling better, go to Vegas. How long did you let it drip in there. for? M I mean probably 20 minutes. I was.

like just locked the bathroom like in. the bathroom and just Yeah. Just like. hooked it up and [ __ ] h Did anybody. bang in the door? Hey dude, I got to. take a [ __ ] No, no, it was like no I'm. pretty sure it was in the airport. I. mean this has been like [ __ ] 11 12. years. But yeah, it was I think it was. it wasn't wasn't on the plane. It was. like in the airport I think. Okay. Like. in the bathroom in the airport. And so. you know I just you know and so sketchy. Yeah. Super sketchy. I don't even know. if I use alcohol. I'm such a scumbag. So.

I uh yeah, so I get I get to Vegas. I'm. like feeling a little bit better. I'm. just like I'm such a sicko. I'm like. want to go gamble, right? Like I should. have gone and like, you know, checked. in. Oh yeah, I did check into my room. I. should have like gone to sleep. But no, I like go gamble. Play poker all [ __ ]. night. I'm like gambling. You know, poker's stressful and this and that. My. buddy comes to me. He's like, "Hey, like. you know, we got these strippers like. let's go to the strip club. I got. ecstasy and all this drugs." And I was. like, "Fuck." I was like, "All right, fine." You know, I was like winning in. poker. I was like, "Fine, sure." So I. start getting [ __ ] up. go to the strip. club and um and I asked the you know and.

I and I asked the first chick that like. came over she's like oh like you want. some lap dances I'm like no like I. haven't slept in like two days like I. just want to get my dick sucked like. I'll give you 500 bucks right suck my. dick and she's like no like you know. like I'll [ __ ] you and I was like no. like you know I was like I you know I. don't really want to [ __ ] you I just. want you know to get the flow job and. she slaps me like cuz cuz basically. she's like offering to [ __ ] me for free. and I said no so she's like all so she. slaps me in the face, right? Like I was.

like, damn. And I was like, and then. this and then the next chick comes up. and I like offered her the same thing. I. was like, hey, like I'll give you 500. bucks to suck my dick. I'm like, I don't. really want any lap answers. She's like, well, like, you know, I'm down to hang. out, you know, and uh and you know, I. can get. off. And I'm just like, [ __ ] I'm just. like, well, this sounds like she's going. to want me to bang her. I'm like, I. don't want to get slapped again. I was. just like, she's like, okay, like, you. know, get your [ __ ] Let's get out of. here. let's go after party. So I talked. to my buddy. I'm like, "Hey, like I need. a, you know, I need a Viagra or some.

kind of dick pill or something, you. know, and I'd never taken Viagra, so I. didn't really know the dosing or. whatever." So he gives me the 100. milligram one, which is like for [ __ ]. if you don't know anything about, you. know, Viagra, that's for like. geriatrics, right? This dude gives me. this thing. I take the whole thing. I. don't know, like a minute goes by and. I'm like, "The [ __ ] thing isn't. working, you know, I'm all coked up. I. think, you know, seems like it's been an. hour, right?" And guy's like, "It hasn't. been enough time." I'm like, "Give me. the [ __ ] give me another pill." And. uh so he so he's like, "No, like you. can't." I'm like, "Give me the [ __ ].

thing." So he gives me another. He's. like, "Only take half." He's like, "Don't, you know, don't take this." And. so anyway, so I take another half, wait. like five minutes, do some more blow. And I'm like, "Oh, my dick's not hard.". Like the girl's not even around. Like I. have no like sexual stimulus. There's no. even reason for my dick to be hard, right? But it's like in my mind, I'm. like overthinking it, which makes it. worse, right? So I'm like, "Fuck it." So. I take the other half. So now I'm like. 200 milligrams into this [ __ ] viagra. which is like you know double the. absolute max from what you know you have. those some guys have to get their dick.

drained right. Yeah. Yeah. Well we'll. get to that. So so go back to my hotel. and I'm like [ __ ] banging the [ __ ]. out of this girl like you know I I mean. I got like veins coming out of my head. I'm sweating profusely and I'm like. doing I had [ __ ] her for like maybe. like 45 50 minutes. Like it was not. pleasurable at all. This was like work, right? I'm just like and after like [ __ ]. man I think it was like 50 minutes I. just like I just like quit like I was. just like I just you know I just knew. there was just zero chance of me coming. and I like punished this chick enough.

and I'm just like and I like didn't like. I was just tired. I went in the bathroom. took a cold shower my dick like wouldn't. go down like I and I like ordered some. room service. I end up like tucking it. up into my waist and um cuz like there's. just no going down for this [ __ ]. thing, right? So, eat the room. service. I think Oh, yeah. Then I I. actually ended up taking a Valium, went. to sleep, banged her again, woke up, went and ate some Mexican food. I was. like betting on the sports game and I.

started getting like this pain in my. shoulder and I couldn't really like know. what it was. Like it kind of just felt. like like an ache. So, I started doing. some push-ups that didn't really make it. feel any better. And I was like. stretching my arm out. I was like trying. to sleep, but I couldn't even like lay. on that side. And I'm just like what the. [ __ ] like heart attack never even. entered into the realm of possibility of. [ __ ] that could be wrong with me right. like [ __ ] 25 like it's like shoulder. pain like wow you know I I didn't have. no idea that that would have anything to. do with a heart attack so call my mom.

tell her to get the family doctor on the. phone she calls this dude up and I'm. like getting like kind of short of. breath so I'm like [ __ ] so I just hang. up the phone and I find. out the hospital's like 10 minutes away. so I'm like [ __ ] it I'll just get a cab. be faster I should have got an. ambulance, but I got a cab. You know, note to self, always get an ambulance if. you got any [ __ ] Cuz I got the cab. I. was in the waiting room for like 50. minutes. I pulled out like 10 grand out. of my pocket. I told the lady, I was. like, I'll give you 10 grand. Let me. talk to the [ __ ] doctor. Like, something's wrong with me. I don't know.

what's wrong, but I know something's. wrong. Anyway, did she take the 10. grand? [ __ ] no. Made me sit in the. [ __ ] waiting room. And like 30, 40. minutes go by. I finally get seen by a. doctor. He's like, "Holy [ __ ] like. you're having a full-blown heart attack, all this stuff." and give me the. nitroglycerin. And I called my dad and. my mom was like, you know, telling my. love. I'm like, I'm thinking I'm [ __ ]. done, right? And because this has been. going on for a while. I'm like having a. hard time breathing. I'm like in pain. And so they give me the nitroglycerin,

right? And I I start feeling better. They do a angio or whatever where they. check out the heart. They said there was. no damage. Parents come out. The next. day I have another one. And I'm like and. I tell the doctor. I'm like, and my. doctor was Conrad Murray, too, by the. way, which is Michael Jackson doc, the. guy that smoked him. And the craziest. was your doctor? Yeah. And the spookiest. thing about the whole deal was my. grandfather had the same doctor in the. same [ __ ] hospital exactly one. year prior and died. So, I'm just like, you know, this is not looking good for. the home team. This is before he killed.

Michael Jackson's ass, too, right? So, I'm like, you know, [ __ ] I'm just in. the hospital. So, I call my dad. I'm. like, I'm having another heart attack. I. tell the the nurse and they're like, "No, like your thing looks fine." I call. my dad. I'm like, "There's something. wrong." My dad like comes down to the. hospital and sure enough, like I'm. having a second like minor heart attack. I'm just like, "What the fuck?" So, they. do a bunch of tests, they say my heart's. fine, and then they ask me for like the. list. So, I got to like give them the. list. And my ex-girlfriend's there, my. mom's there, my dad's there. And I'm. just like started off with like, "Oh,

well, you know, I was like smoking some. pot." And he's like, "Well, you know, like you better tell us like what you've. been doing. Like, it's important. we. need to figure out what's going on with. you." And I was like, "Yeah." And, you. know, I did, you know, I did some, you. know, ecstasy and some cocaine. And like. my dad like looks over at me like, "What. the fuck?" You know, my dad's like super. square. And um anyway, so then and then. I was like, "And I think I took some. Viagra." My girlfriend's like [ __ ]. rioting now. And he's like, "How much?". I'm like, "200 milligrams." He's like, "What?" He's like, "200 mill." I'm like,

"I don't [ __ ] know." It's like see, you know, seem like what you know what I. was supposed to say. Like that's like an. insane amount. Like anyway, so I uh I I. end up staying in the hospital for like. 4 days. I actually [ __ ] my girlfriend. in the hospital with all these like. cords and crazy [ __ ] Oh Jesus. I like. smoked a joint in the hospital thing. I. [ __ ] her. Like I had a buddy of mine. bringing like wine coolers and Chinese. food. I was like the worst patient of. all time, right? And somehow like you. know some give me all these [ __ ].

pills I got to take. They're telling me. like I got to take these pills for the. rest of my life. for the rest of your. life. That's what they said. And I was. just like after like 3 days like I. [ __ ] my girlfriend, ate the Chinese. food. I was like, "Okay, I'm like back. to being invincible again. I threw all. this [ __ ] away. What is a heart attack. exactly? I've heard that that phrase, but what is the exact medical thing. that's going on?" You know, for a guy. that's had two, I should know. Um I I. don't know. I I think it's just like. basically when your heart's not getting. enough oxygen or something or I don't.

know. It's not functioning properly. Usually there's like a Yeah, there's. like a blocked artery. There's like. something and and I think like Coke is a. is a vasal constrictor or whatever. So. maybe it like constricted my veins so. there wasn't like enough. But isn't the. Viagra a vasil dilator? So shouldn't. that balance it out? I think but I don't. know. You know what I mean? I don't. know. I don't really know the science. behind it. But I know that like Coke and. Viagra I don't think you're supposed to. mix them. I don't know. Wow. I mean I. know I did a lot of. both. Should have canceled out but I.

guess it didn't. I guess my body was. like so confused. I was going so many. directions. It's like [ __ ] you and just. shut down. I don't know. Wow. Yeah. Wow. That's [ __ ] terrifying. 25 years old. and have a heart attack. Yeah. Yeah. It. was pretty crazy, right? But your your. heart obviously works great now. I mean, you did you did that Vegas run that the. crazy bike thing which was uh [ __ ]. hilarious cuz you and I were talking. about it and then Lance Armstrong gets a. hold of me. He says, "Hey man, I want to. help him." Yeah. Yeah, I remember I got. the text from you and you're like,

"Yeah, would you want to land the. coach?" I was like, "Fuck yeah." So, what did he do? The bear [ __ ] in the. woods. Uh, so I mean he it was funny cuz. he like came out and I was like, you. know, expecting I was like, "Okay, like. you know, what kind of drugs do I need. to do?" You know, I'm like ready to get. all doped up and he didn't really like. want to talk about any of the drug [ __ ]. which is like kind of disappointing. He. didn't want to talk about the drug [ __ ]. No. No. I was like I thought this guy. would have like some like miracle. formula, right? I was like ready to get. all hooked up, but I actually had like a. super high hemocrite. um count and he he.

was actually the one that told me he's. like I think sleep apnea makes it so. that you have a really that you can have. a really high red blood cell count. So I. actually have like the equivalent of. like the guys that are doing the EPO and. doping. I have from sleep apnnea. I. guess sleep apnnea helps in some sort of. a way. Well because you're you're you're. basically at night you're gasping for. air. Yeah. Gasping for air and you're. lacking oxygen. So it's kind of like. goes back to the whole like sleeping in. an oxygen tent, right? So, you know, the. reason you do that is because you don't. have enough oxygen. Because you don't. your body stimulates your red blood. cell, you know, count and so because red.

blood cells are what transports the. oxygen. So, the less oxygen you have, the more your body produces that. Well, if it gets to a certain point, then your. blood kind of turns into [ __ ] syrup, right? So, this is amazing. Look at. that. Surprising link between sleep. apnea and red blood cell count. According to Sleep Review magazine, elevated red blood cell count or a high. hematocrit is an indicator of a lack of. oxygen in a person's body. Yeah, that's. amazing. So sleep apnea can actually. give you more endurance sort of. Well, you know the problem the Yeah, the. problem is you don't really recover. So. I actually got I actually because of him.

I actually ended up getting a mouth. guard which I think helped. Um I have a. really good one and I know I know a. really good doctor. I don't know if. yours is the same as what we'll talk. about that later. I think mine was like. 50 bucks online so probably not. Yeah, it's probably not. There's a guy that's. close to here. It's it actually pushes. down in your tongue because the issue is. your Well, with a lot of guys out a lot. Mine was they put my jaw like it kind of. moved my back jaw forward a little bit. Kind of like gives me an underbite. So. it's supposed to open the airway. But I. don't know. That's not the best one. There's a better one than that. For me. it's I changer. It changed my [ __ ].

life. You know, it's guys who work out a. lot in particular. You develop big neck. muscles and that can constrict the air. hole and uh your tongue can fall back on. that. Especially if you lie on your. back. Like if I lie on my back, dude, I. I sound it sounds horrible. It sounds like choking and it's just. terrific. Yeah, I'm in the same boat. Yeah. Um, so, so what did he have you. do? Um, Lance or Lance? Oh, so I mean I. I did, you know, I did a good ride with.

him. Uh, we did like some vehicle. drafting. Um, which was actually like. surprisingly really [ __ ] hard because. you have to stay close enough to the. vehicle to where you're like in that. draft, but then if you get caught by a. crosswind and plus if you're if you're. drafting a vehicle, you can't see like. what's in the road. And if you hit any. [ __ ] in the road or there's a you know, cuz on on my race, I blew out a front. tire doing like 30 something downhill. and almost crashed. And I was like on. the highway doing this, too. So, I like. you know, they have those things that. like wake you up when you're sleeping.

You know this. Yeah. So try hitting that. on a [ __ ] bicycle with little skinny. tires doing like 30 m an hour. Like that. shit's gnarly. So it like sent me into. the [ __ ] highway and I'm getting. passed by like tractor trailers at like. 70 80 90 mph which if you think about it. if you're in a car and it like weighs. 5,000 lb and it can pull a car. Imagine. what it does to a guy on a bike that. weighs 200 lb plus [ __ ] you know 10. bike. Well, we didn't explain the bet. What what what was the bet? Oh. Oh. So, it actually originally we're in a.

poker game and uh it's got Bill Perkins. He um he, you know, he just makes crazy. bets all the time because he's a real. rich guy and he likes to just [ __ ]. make people do crazy [ __ ] And it's kind. of like, you know, it's the poker world, too. So, the first bet was he bet my. brother that he couldn't go three days. without saying the word 'the'. I think. it was. He bet him like 100,000 or. something like that. And then the I. think he basically just wanted to shut. my brother up. He wanted to pay 100. grand to do it cuz he's like [ __ ] you.

So it worked. Uh well he ended up buying. out cuz he realized that my brother was. just like such a stubborn [ __ ] that. he just like wasn't going to talk for 3. days and he's like married with kids. He. like doesn't have to go out and get any. [ __ ] and like he could probably just. like sit home with his [ __ ] miserable. dogs and just like not talk for three. days and just collect 100 grand. So he. ended up buying out of that. But that. he's on an honor system, right? I mean. he has Oh yeah. All this honor system. I. mean, that's the thing about the poker. community is like, you lie one [ __ ]. time or you don't pay a debt back and. you're just done. Like, nobody will [ __ ]. with you. So, you you know, your word.

has to be good, which is kind of like, you know, one of my things which, you. know, irritates me like when people say. that I'm not authentic because I take. like great pride in like, you know, being [ __ ] 100% honest about. everything, you know? So, and that's. been like drilled in through 13, 14. years of gambling. That's a big one. though if you're married because your. wife be like, "Listen, it's me." Yeah. With me, the bet doesn't count. Okay. You have to say the Yeah. No, no, that. he Yeah. No, he my brother would have. would have told him. Um, and so, you.

know, we were just discussing crazy [ __ ]. because in in the poker world, they've. done crazy stuff like one guy bet. another guy 5,000 he wouldn't jump in. the Shark Tank Atlantis. Another guy bet. that. um [ __ ] what was it? I mean, I bet. [ __ ] I bet 400,000 on a drag race and I. hadn't even raced a car before. Um, and. then there was, [ __ ] there was another. There's been so many crazy ones. I'm. just trying to think of the highlight. reel. Oh boy. Um, there was one really.

good one. Um, anyway, so he he ended up. betting um I'll think I'll think of some. other ones later, but he end up betting. he end up wanting to bet Rick Solomon. that he couldn't ride from LA to Vegas. or Vegas to LA or whatever on a bicycle. in 48 hours. And Rick like called one of. his buddies that has like set some. Guinness Book of World Records things. and asked him and the guy's like, "Look, like it's not gonna [ __ ] happen, buddy. You can't do this." And so Rick. ended up turning down the bet. And it.

was just like really intriguing to me. because I'm always up for physical. tests. You know, like during during, you. know, hell week, you stay up for it's. five and a half days with no sleep and. you run 144 miles like boats and. telephone poles and you get hypothermia. and you're doing all this like crazy. [ __ ] you don't sleep for five and a. half days and you're just going the. entire time, right? So, I've like put. myself through some like and I did two. of those, right? So, I've put myself. through some like real serious like. physical tests. And one of the things. that you learn there is that your body.

is just capable of way more than what. you think or anybody else thinks it's. capable of doing. But one other thing. that you learn in gambling is that like. there's certain things that sound like a. good bet that just aren't just like like. drinking a gallon of milk in an hour. Like that sounds pretty [ __ ] easy, right? But like there's something with. the lactose which like most people just. physically can't do it without puking, right? Cuz there's just like some weird. thing. But like who would who would. guess that? Or like saltine crackers. Like you can't you know what I mean? Like there's like these weird little.

things that like sound super easy but. you just can't do. Yeah. Yeah, I would. think a gallon of milk would be totally. doable. Yeah. Right. But it's like it's. a it's like a thing. I mean, I remember. I like bet a fraternity brother and he. end up puking. Like I I bet him before. his midterm. I remember in his midterm. he end up vomiting on a girl. He got. kicked out of his class. Like projectile. vomited like a gallon of milk onto a. girl in his midterm. It was like pretty. [ __ ] brutal. Um and I was like, yeah, we had some funny midterm stories. I.

actually ended up taking my vitamins one. morning with I I had a thing of GHB and. it looks just like water, right? Oh no. And so I end up taking like a like a. full swallow cuz I had all these horse. pills. So I took like a full swig and I. was like, "Holy fuck." I was like I knew. like I was like I had about 20 30. minutes before I turned into a [ __ ]. wild animal, right? And so I just like. got in my car and I drove right down. I. like called my buddy. I was like, "Hey.". I was like, "I got to go take this. final." I was like, "I'm going to be. [ __ ] lights out in 30 minutes. you. got to like come pick me up, but I got.

to like finish as much as I can, right? So, I go in there and I got like halfway. through the test and I was just like he. ended up like carrying me out. Um Yeah, you just black out, right? Yeah, I was. [ __ ] Isn't that that's they call it. It's a date rape drug. Well, I think. that's real hypnol. But I mean GHP as. well, they've used that on people, too. Yeah, you Well, you'd have to be a real. [ __ ] [ __ ] to do that because if. you mix GHP with alcohol, like you can. kill somebody. So, I know people have. done it, though. Yeah, you gotta be. pretty hard up for [ __ ] to like risk. killing a girl the [ __ ] But I don't.

know. Have you ever seen u speaking of. the throwing up from drinking too milk. too much milk? Did you ever see the Opie. and Anthony sketch with the baby bird? Do you ever see Baby Bird? You know what. that is? No. Maybe the most disgusting. stunt that anyone's ever done on the. radio. They had an eggnog drinking. contest. Okay. And this dude um he. drank 72 shots of eggnog. Is that what. it was? Something like that. but then. projectile vomited and then we were. trying to figure out what to do here. Before you play this, pause this for a. second cuz let me explain it. He knew he.

was going to throw up. So, they had this. intern uh named Pat Duffy. This intern's. [ __ ] crazy. And um Dave from from No, who was the other guy? I don't know. I've heard that name. Pat from Unaki is. the guy who throws up and and uh Pat. Duffy is the guy who is laying down. there. And he we were trying to figure. out what to do with the throw up. Like. he's like I'm going to throw up. And so. this guy or like what was that? No no no. he's an intern. He's he's a [ __ ].

animal [ __ ] with him or he was just. trying to prove his he would do. anything. He would [ __ ] do anything. for just for the story and just for the. gag. So we say okay here's the idea. Cuz. you know I was hosting Fear Factor at. the time. I go here's here's the idea. You lean your head over the edge of the. over the edge of this garbage pail and. he throws up in your mouth and he's. like, "I'll do it." And we're like, "No. [ __ ] way." And I think Bill Burr was. the one who named it. He named it the. baby bird. And so just watch this. because the sheer volume, you you're not. even going to believe that this is.

really Caroline all weekend long. I'm at. Caroline's all weekend long. There's the. plug. So Pat had won this before. I. mean, he obviously he's a giant dude and. he was on like number like 72 and this. other kid Pat Duffy sitting there with. his head leaning he's sitting in a chair. leaning back with his head over this. barrel. Oh my god. And to this day I. mean they've got tarps all over the. ground. Who else was there? Ari Shafir. was there. I think Redband was there. To.

this day maybe one of the best moments. of my life just because it was so. completely [ __ ] ridiculous. Yeah. So, here it comes. He's like, "Here we go.". He takes one last chuck and he's like, "I'm going to throw up." Watch this. Oh. my god. No. No. You haven't seen. nothing. You haven't seen nothing. He. throws in his face. No. Look at this. No. It keeps going. This is nothing. When you think it's. When you think it's over, it keeps. going. Now watch. You think it's over.

You think it's over. Like, there's no. way he has more in. No. He's got way. more inside of him. Look at this. Oh. Oh my god. No, it's not over. He's Jesus. That has to be going up his. [ __ ] Watch. Watch. Watch. Keep. watching. Keep watching. He's not even. done. He's not even done. Oh, how is it. possible? How is it possible? [ __ ]. How is it possible? Oh my god. That was. like the chick in the midterm. Hang on. Hang on. More. Oh my god. And this is.

not fake. I mean, I was there and we. were all there. We all saw this live and. I think he got one more inside of him. I. He gets one more off. No, he said that's. it. He's done. Oh my god. Hold on. I got That's so. [ __ ] brutal. Hang on. Go ahead. God. damn. One of the greatest things I've. ever seen in my life. We're going to get. back to this uh bike racing story, ladies and gentlemen, in a moment. Ridiculous, huh? It's I'm remembering I. don't think it was on It might have been. on one of the Jackass movies or the TV.

show uh Bam's uncle. It's crazy. Uncle. drank like 70 shots of peach schnops. 70 something. Oh, that's right. [ __ ] It. was uh Bam Bam Margarito. It was his. uncle Don Vito. The big guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 70. Projectile vomiting all I. think it was. It was a lot. It was way. more than 20. You could die from that. There was a. woman in San Jose or Sacramento, one of. those places where uh she was doing a. radio contest and it was like, "How much.

water can you drink?" And she died from. drinking water. Like if you drink too. much water, you could die. Did this guy. get sick from this vomit stuff at all? Did the kid Pat? No. The kid's. bulletproof. Just doesn't get sick. That. guy ate cat [ __ ] He brushed his teeth. with cat [ __ ] He also ate Froot Loops. in the puke. Like he took a bowl of. Froot Loops and uh mixed it with the. puke and ate the Froot. Loops. Yeah. Um, there's people out. there that are different than you and I,

Jamie. There's people that can do things. that we can't do. What's the Why though? Why? I just I don't know. Just for the. story. What's he up to now? I don't. know. Well, we're talking about him, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, we're we're talking about him. So, it's. like it's one of those things. Like, that's why he did it. We're still. talking about him. This was in a world. preyoutube. Really? Right. I don't. remember when it was. It says 2008, but. I don't think that's correct. I feel. like it was earlier than that. I feel. like it was like 2003 or four or. something like that. I think it was a. long time ago. God, that was so crazy.

It's insane, right? Oh my god. So, um. that was I think that was like the guy. in college similar to that. So, back to. um the bet. So, um so the bet. is that you can't ride a bike from LA to. Vegas. Do you have a starting point? Um. Oh, yeah. So basically it was so he was. going to bet this guy and he like looked. into it and he's like no that's like not.

possible and I was hanging out and I was. just like [ __ ] I was like doing some. research on it and I like looked it up. and I like googled like you know how to. prepare for a 300 mile bike ride in a. month and like nothing came up. It came. up like how to prepare prepare for a 100. mile in like three months, right? So I'm. just like that's not a good sign. But I. just like I don't know, something about. me just thought it was. possible. And so I was like talking to. Bill. I was like trying to get more time.

and I talked to like some buddies that. were cyclists like look they're like if. you had time to like train for this like. you could do it. They're like but. there's [ __ ] no way like just off the. couch you could do it. And I'm like how. long you know do I need? They're like. minimum 3 months. So I'm talking to Bill. and I kind of like want the bet but I'm. just like I don't know how much money I. really want to risk. And so he ended up. saying that he would give me cuz cuz the. initial bet was like you just had to go. do it tomorrow, right? And I was like. there's no [ __ ] way like you know.

And then he's like he goes well give you. a month. And I go give me it was like. until X date and it was like little. under six weeks. I was like and I'll do. it. And he's like how much do you want. to bet? I was like I was like 600 grand. cuz I like I wanted to bet enough to. where like I would do it, but I didn't. want to bet too much to where like I'd. not only like [ __ ] break my ass, but. like, you know, just lose a shitload. So, it's like 600 seemed like it was a. good number. So, we made the bet and I. started doing some research. So, I go. down to the bike shop and I'm like, "Oh,

like I need a bike. Like, I'm doing a a. triple century ride." And the guy's. like, "Oh, like how you know how much. biking?" I was like, "Oh, like I haven't. been on a bike like ever really. I did. some mountain biking like 19 years." The. guy just like laugh yeah in that. response he just like laughed at me. I'm. like no like really like I I got to do. it. I got like five weeks. And he's just. like he just like looked at me like I. was a complete [ __ ] [ __ ] And I'm. like no like I I got to bet like I'm. going to do it. And the guy's like okay. like what kind of bike do you want? I'm.

like I don't know. Like you're the bike. shop. Like tell me. Like I had no. [ __ ] idea. Right. So he gives me like. this race bike which is super [ __ ]. uncomfortable. So, I go out and I ride. this thing and I rode it like I don't. know for like 45 minutes and my ass was. just like [ __ ] in so much pain and. I'm like I am [ __ ] Like I think I. made it like 11 miles and I'm just like. this is going to be really brutal. And. so I end up finding like a bike where. like you could sit down a little bit.

more as a like a recumbent or whatever. It look like a low rider bicycle, right? Okay. So that'll like kind of alleviate. a little bit of like the ass issue. and it gave me like a slightly different. like pedaling position. So, I got that. and then I felt a little bit better. about the bet and then I talked to I had. like ridden a little bit but like. nothing over like 20 or 30 miles and. that was like you know kind of like. going hard and then I talked to you and. I talked to Lance and Lance like oh if.

you use a [ __ ] any other bike other. than a road bike like I'm not [ __ ]. you know I can't have anything to do. with this. So I'm like why? I don't know. cuz it's like a [ __ ] I mean I don't. know a purist. Yeah he's just a bike or. I don't [ __ ] know. So I'm just like. well listen buddy I'm betting big money. on this. I'm like I'm going to do. whatever the [ __ ] I got to do to [ __ ]. make it there on a bicycle, right? And. so anyways then I bet Rick Solomon. Rick. Rick thought I was going to die cuz like. the the route that I chose was like on.

the freeway and I didn't have a police. escort at the time. So he's like, you. know, this guy's going to be driving on. the freeway at night. Like there's going. to be trucks past him. Like he's he's. got a decent chance of dying. So and. he's like in the heart attack thing and. I actually went to the hospital cuz I. was like having some like shoulder pain. again and it felt very similar to the. last thing. So I was like [ __ ] So Rick. is like, you know, he like this is while. you were training you were having. shoulder pain. Yeah. Like after I had. done like a long ride um one of the. nights like I like I actually went to. the hospital. I was like kind of.

worried. And. so Rick was like saying that and I was. like, "Well," I was like, "Let's bet. that I I'll bet you I don't die." And I. was like, "And I'll give you odds." I. was like, cuz cuz for me, I'm like, "Well, [ __ ] I can't take it with me. If. I do die, like, [ __ ] it." You know, like. and and then it would like up the stakes. for me without really like too much. risk. And so I was like, "This I was. like, "I'll bet you whatever the [ __ ]. you want." You know what I mean? Like. I'll bet you my plane. And uh and I was. like, I'll give you I think it was like. 10 to1 or 21. I think it was like I gave.

him like [ __ ] I think I initially. offered him like 20 to1 odds and then we. settled at like I don't know it ended up. being where he would he would lose. 250,000 and I would give him like my. plane plus my pilots for you know he got. my plane and then I'd pay the pilots for. a year. We like had all these You had to. die. You had to die. But if I didn't if. I didn't complete the race then it was. like a wash for me. I'm just like, [ __ ]. It's like because Rick didn't think I. could do it, period. Right. So, so he. didn't think there was a possibility.

that I could do it. And then he thought. there was a decent chance that he could. that I could die. So, for him, he. thought he was kind of free rolling. And. for me, I was free rolling cuz it's like. if I die, well, okay, I don't need the. [ __ ] plane. It ain't going to take me. to hell, right? So, like, I'm good. So, I made, you know, so I made the bet with. him. So, and then I bet a little bit on. the side with somebody else. So, I. basically had a million bucks on it when. I finally ended up doing it. And I Yeah. And I I got a police escort like through. Vegas. It was so funny cuz I had like 11. squad cars like blocking off all the.

intersections and here comes this. [ __ ] dildo on a bicycle like riding. right through and I'm like have all the. like you know you're expecting like a. like you know presidential motorcade to. come or like you know somebody like. everybody's like looking to see like. what you know there [ __ ] 11 squad. cars blocking off every intersection and. here's just this [ __ ] [ __ ] on a. bicycle. Well, a lot of people knew that. you were going to do it but they didn't. know when you were going to do it. Yeah. So, you didn't announce when you I. didn't want to announce it cuz I didn't. want people to [ __ ] with me. You know. what I mean? Like I didn't want fans to. like come out, you know, or people that. hated me or anything, right? I just like.

wanted to This is bad enough as it was. I had to be on the [ __ ] highway. So, um I end up leaving from Vegas and. uh and. I did it in about 32 hours was the Whoa. And what was the bet? Uh it was that it. was 48. Jesus Christ. Yeah. So, I I just. remember because there was like because. he was giving me some [ __ ] about because. I was allowed to draft, but he was. saying that the van that I had had the. doors open like cuz you had to leave the.

doors open cuz cuz I want to talk to my. coach and they were like filming it and. stuff. So, we had the doors open. So, he. was like bitching. Rick was bitching. about that, which was kind of stupid for. Rick to [ __ ] about because that that. was like what made it the least safe of. all was, you know, drafting off a car. cuz you got to be like 6 in from this. car and you can't see like [ __ ] in the. road. So if they have to slam on the. brakes, you're [ __ ] in the car. You're crashing like And we had we had. times when like there was.

a Yeah. There was a time when there was. we were on a [ __ ] onelane road, right? And there was um there was so. there's one lane and we're in this lane. and there's a lane going this way and we. had a car come to pass us as another car. was coming and miss like our van by like. inches and they were doing like 50 60 m. an hour like cross if they were to crash. like I would have been dead for sure. like it was [ __ ] bad and so like [ __ ].

got pretty gnarly some of the spots. Um. I blew out a tire doing like 30. something miles an hour downhill. I. mean, it was like it was Did you rest at. all while you're doing this? Yeah, I. slept for like an hour or two, maybe an. hour and a half. Um, and then I like. stopped uh to. eat, but it was mostly just just truck. the whole way through. So, and so you. stayed on this like recumbent style bike. the whole time? No, I did half of it on. that and half on a road bike. Um, and.

then and the second half of it I didn't. I just I did no drafting. I just had a. road bike with no drafting. How come no. drafting? He was bitching about it and I. just I was just like, "Fuck it. I don't. need it." Like he was bitching about it. while you were riding. Yeah. So I'm like. having Oh yeah, he was following me. So. I'm having like arguments with him and I. was just like it it was helpful but it. only helped on. like flat like it. So it doesn't help at. all on the uphill, right? So no uphill. it helps. And on the downhill, I didn't.

need it because you're going so [ __ ]. fast that like you don't really want to. be going more than like 30 40 miles an. hour on downhills cuz like if you hit. [ __ ] in the road like you're and you. crash like you're [ __ ] You know what. I mean? Like if I crash like I couldn't. finish the thing. So there's that and. there's [ __ ] in the road. I mean I'm on. like the side of a highway. There's like. tires and nails and you know what I. mean? Like so you don't really want to. be going like and I couldn't go on the. highway cuz I couldn't get the police. escort for the actual highway, the CHP.

um wouldn't do the highway portion of. it. Um so which which sucked because. that was like the most dangerous part. So I was in the breakdown lane instead. of like actually being in like one of. the lanes. So there's just like there's. just [ __ ] in the breakdown lanes, you. know? There's like [ __ ] nails and. whatever. And you're doing it at night. Yeah, there was it was like pitch black. sometimes. We had [ __ ] like high. winds. I mean it was gnarly. It got down. to like 34 degrees at one point plus. with the winds. I mean I had a ski. jacket on. It was [ __ ] Were you. thinking to yourself, "What the [ __ ] am.

I doing?" Uh, yeah. I mean, I've had a. lot of those moments in my life, but I. was more like thinking. like I just didn't know if I could do. it. I just didn't know like physically. cuz I had just never done any biking. I. didn't know if my my legs were just. going to like not be able to go anymore. I I had no like real experience in it. So, I didn't that was my real concern. was just that like I knew mentally like. I was just never going to quit. I just. didn't want to get injured or like just. physically not be capable. That was like.

my two concerns. This is a video of you. doing it. This Watch this. Look at this. Look at these two cars. They That was. That was one [ __ ] lane. They just. passed each other. Yeah, that was very. close. That was it right there. 38 hours. No, 32. 32 hours. So 48 hours. is the bet and you did it in 32. Mhm. How How pissed was he when you won? He. actually took it like a champ. He didn't. really give a [ __ ] That was pretty. crazy. He got a lot of money. He's a. baller. He is for sure. What is this? Is.

this your house? That's my house. Yeah. Just pulling up after it's over on the. bike. Yeah. That's pretty crazy, right? I look like a Grinch the next day. I was. like green. [ __ ] You said the most you. won is 51 million. That was the most. you've ever won. 54. 54. But not in one. sitting. That was over a course of. eight, nine months. And that was just. you going at it with this one dude. One. dude. Yeah. And you guys playing. one-on-one when you doing [ __ ] like. that. Oh my god. I.

remember there was one point where I was. sitting there. That's a granola bar, ladies and gentlemen. Like what the [ __ ]. is that sound? And I checked my watch. Been a while. So there was one point. when I had 18 million bucks in front of. me and he had me covered. So if he said. all in, I had to make a decision for 18. million bucks. Oh my god. He a. billionaire. He didn't give a [ __ ] 18. million on a hand. Go one hand above. What's the most you've ever had on one. hand? Let's see. It. was 6 million.

12. I think it was. like 14 million 15 million bucks. I. don't Now, obviously, you had to build. up to this like at what at any point in. time while you're gambling these. ridiculous sums of money. I mean, this. is not that long since you were broke. I. mean, this is like you going from. college to you doing this, you know? We're only talking about a decade or so. Yeah. Um, that's [ __ ] crazy. Well, there was periods of time when in poker.

I've played with like almost my entire. net worth on the table. Poker players do that kind of [ __ ]. though, don't they? Stressful. It's. crazy. I've had my hair fall out before. playing. Just cuz you're freaking out. Just stress, man. you know, like I mean. there's just so many things that go into. it. Like you're you're not only thinking. about like what that person has, but. like what do they like what do they. think that you think that they have? Um. I mean the basic stuff is what do you.

think that they think that you have? And. then like the range of hands that they. could have um why, you know, why why. would he be betting this? Why would he. be calling here? What type of hands. could he have? Like what are the. probabilities that he's bluffing? like. what is his mental state? I mean, like. just trying to pick up on tells. There's. just so many things that go into it that. you're you're so focused and it's so. much money and any little mistake that. you make is going to cost you millions. of dollars. So, it's like that that is.

like a lot. And you're playing for. sometimes 16, 17 hours. Like, you're. just like delirious. Do you like. anything while you're playing? Do you. take like Provigil or Aderall or. anything? I took Aderal and it really. [ __ ] me up because I just like tried. to win every hand and it made me like. too aggressive and I just like just. [ __ ] plane crashed into the mountain. It was terrible. Oh wow. So I tried that. a couple times. No good. Um tried weed and it [ __ ] was. terrible. Every time I was bluffing I. was all paranoid [ __ ] Uh so I you know.

no and then sometimes I'm taking like. volume just so I [ __ ] relax you know. because I'm just like strung out but. then that makes you kind of not give a. [ __ ] and so you do stupid [ __ ] It's. Yeah, you just almost got to be sober. What about beta blockers? Um I never. tried them. I never tried them either, but I was I was I saw this uh thing on. concert uh performers like uh pianists. or it was actually some people that. playing in orchestra. They were talking. about they took beta blockers and it. made a massive impact because they were. super nervous about performing. And I.

always thought about it. I was like, man, that's uh I guess it just stops you. from getting nervous. I I would be. really curious to see what that feels. like. Yeah. Yeah. No, that'd be. interesting. I. uh yeah, I've definitely heard of that. I think uh I think it's a big thing for. actors and stuff like that with stage. fright or whatever. Yeah, I'm sure. I. just don't know how long it lasts cuz. like I said, I mean these are, you know, you're talking about 18 hour sessions. and it's just like and also you don't. want anything to [ __ ] with your like. mental acuity. Yeah. Um so, do you study. the game? Do you you do like study. strategy and read read poker books? And.

I did. I did. You know, I did back in. the day, but back in the day it wasn't. quite as advanced. Now they have so much. stuff online where you can basically. watch these pros. play. I I'll give you an example. Back. when I was playing um I would play in. college, I played 10 tables at a time. and you online. Yeah. And you would see. about 100 hands an hour. Um and let's. say I just played for a 10-hour session. So So you're you're playing 10 tables. simultaneously. How do you do that? You.

have like 10 windows open up. Yeah. Wow. Yes. You're going click click click. click all between all of them. And then. you have sometimes you have multiple. monitors set up. Um and so basically in. that period if you um extrapolate that. out that's you know you're seeing 10,000. hands right in that 10 hours of sessions. because 100 hands an an hour per table. times you know right? So 10 times times. 100. Um so if you play in a casino. you're seeing about 20 hands an hour and. you're obviously only playing one table.

So that translates to 200 hands for that. day. So of one day playing online, I've. seen 10,000 hands. One play one day. playing live, I've seen 200. So you can. imagine one day playing online, I've. seen more hands than a guy that's played. in a casino for his entire life. So just. think about those, you know, numbers. And so the thing is like when you're. playing in a casino, you Yeah, exactly. This picture, who's that dude? Elkie. What's his name? Elkie. E L K Y. That's.

his whole name. Was he like Oprah? I. don't know really. He's he's I think. he's a Swedish guy or uh something like. that. And so he's just he's got four. giant monitors going on. Exact. Like I. mean these guys are playing even more. tables. Look how many that guy's got 12. on each side. Yeah. Wow. So that I mean. this is what it's evolved to, you know. I was like one of the pioneers of this. stuff. Look at this guy. He's got. [ __ ] six monitors here. Yeah. So when. when you're you can't do this in America. anymore, correct? Like it used to be you. gamble online. It stopped. Um I think.

Black Friday was in. 200 n was it? That's [ __ ] too. Why. not? I mean, why not? Why it's total. [ __ ] I mean, it's a game of skill, clearly. I mean, they allow the fantasy. because it's a game of skill. Um and. yeah, I I just I think it's nonsense. I. I don't really care because I wouldn't. be playing online anymore because I. can't compete with these kids. Um. they've just put too much time in. And. the thing is now there's so much. software that does so much for them.

Like for instance, it'll tell you how. how many hands each person plays pre. flop, how many how what percentage of. the time they bet the flop, what. percentage of the time they bluff, and. they can just figure that out based on. like how often they're going to have a. hand and how often they bluff. So it'll. actually give you their bluff. percentages on each street on the flop, the turn, the river, and it'll tell you. like how how many times they're just. like calling bad. like it'll just give. you all these stats. It's almost more. turned into like a mathematical computer.

game. Whereas I like the more pure form. of just like I'm looking the guy in the. [ __ ] eye and you know just trying to. figure out what he's got and you know. you're and you're also playing the. player like when you're playing live. like you know for me I can calculate how. much money a guy has very fast. I can. figure out like his comfort level with. bluffing. I can figure out the type of. guy he is, whether or not he's. aggressive. Whether or not he's the type. of guy that when he's winning, he's. going to want to lock it up. Or the type. of guy that when he's winning, he's want. to gamble more. The type of guy that. when he's losing, he's going to kind of.

play a lot more hands and try and, you. know, get even or the type of guy that's. going to just like try and wait for a. big hand. The type of guy that's going. to be just calling his money, chasing, trying to get lucky. The kind of guy. that's going to be pushing the action. and betting a lot. Like there's just so. many things that go into it that, you. know, I like to just, you know, play. live and I like to talk to people and I. like to, you know, have that human. interaction. There's a lot of these guys. that are really good behind a computer, but you put them in front of another. guy. You can't look a man in the eye and. just [ __ ] you know, bluff. You just. like crumble, you know? So, so online,

they can click that button and say all. in and do these crazy bluffs, but, you. know, they just physically can't like. push those chips in and keep a straight. face on a table. So, you know, so. there's something going on when you're. when you're looking at them. There's. like there's a certain amount of re, like I said, I've never played poker, so. there there is a certain amount of. intuition and instinct. Yeah, it. definitely is. It's not like in the. movies where it's like, oh, like I. picked up a tell on this guy and every. time he bluffs he twitches or you know. what I mean? Like like that's that's a. very rare thing. It's more it's more.

just like understanding the person. It's. like you figure out what kind of job. this guy does, like how much money he. makes a year. Like how much this money. means to him, how much he cares about. the money, how much he wants to gamble, how much he's playing for fun, how much. he wants to win, how some of these guys. they just they actually want to lose. They're just like self-sabotagers, you. know? They'll go in there and like some. some of them I'll see him and they'll. want to lose because they'll want. everybody at the table to like them. And. that's kind of like, you know, the path. of least resistance. I've seen I've seen. really how well how do you detect that?

Like how do you detect that a guy wants. to lose? He'll be, you know, he'll be. just like wanting to be friends with. everybody and he'll do [ __ ] to show off. or to like you know make because I mean. look at the end of the day like people. want people to play bad, right? Like you. want a player to play like [ __ ] You. want a player to give his money away. You want a player to you know uh you. know do crazy stuff. So these guys will, you know, they'll put on a show for. people. They'll want to be the popular. guy. Maybe they weren't cool in high. school. Maybe they want people to like. them. Who knows what their reason is. Maybe they feel like they don't deserve. the money. I've played with a lot of. guys that, you know, some of them ended. up in jail. Some of them were frauds,

some of them were cheats. Some of these. guys, you know, they have a bunch of. money and they feel like they don't. deserve it subconsciously, so they'll. just want to give it away. It's just. like a weird thing. Oh, that's. interesting. And do you see a lot of. guys who just lose everything? I've seen it before. Yeah, I've seen. guys go completely broke. Um, it's tough. because in gambling, you can just keep. going up, but you can't really go down. It's like for instance, if you go and. you play blackjack and you bet whatever. arbitrary numbers, $500 a hand, right?

And you're playing 500 bucks a hand and. you know your level of excitement when. you win is at a seven and you keep. playing and whatever and then now you go. and play a,000 bucks a hand and you've. been winning a little bit or you've been. losing or whatever. And now if you try. and go back to 500 or 250, it's just. like it, you know, if you if you're. losing, it's just like it's it's a. mental [ __ ] because it's really hard to. get even betting smaller. And if you've. been winning, you don't really care. about the small money, right? Like you. want to win more. You know what I'm. saying? It's like one of those things.

where like once you go up, it's really. hard to go the other direction. And so a. lot of a lot of the problems that. professional poker players have is. called bankroll management where they. keep going up and up and up and then. when they start losing they they are. completely unable to drop down in the. stakes and then play good. You know like. if they lost let's say $100,000 just use. round numbers at you know this game then. for them to go to play a game that's. half that size and try and win that.

hundred 100,000 back it's going to take. them twice as much time. You know what I. mean? So, it's it's kind of like one of. those things where, you know, and the. games have gotten bigger and bigger and. bigger. So, somebody goes on a bad run. like and poker is their profession. It's. not like, you know, that's that's. another thing that people don't. understand. It's like, you know, people. people are like, "Oh, you're winning. Like, you should you should take the. money and run." It's like, no, like when. you play poker for a living, like it. never ends. Like, there it's like, yeah, there may be session to session, but. like you're always going to be playing. poker. So, it's like if that's a good.

spot, you should just play until the. game's over. Like even if you've won, it's not like blackjack where you should. just lock up a win. Like in poker, you. just stay there. And in fact, the more. you're winning, the more other people. are losing. And the more other people. are losing, the worse they're going to. play. So, it's kind of like one of those. things where you just, you know, it's. just one long session. It never ends. You know, how pissed do people get when. they lose [ __ ] tons of money? Have you. ever had issues with that where people. get violent or people get angry? Definitely angry. And it's funny because. and I and I'm a victim of this too. Like.

I've found sometimes I've gotten far. more angry at losing $20,000 than I have. at losing $500,000. As strange as that. may sound. um just. because you know of the way I lost it or. if I played shitty or if I lost it to a. guy I didn't like or it was just like I. lost lost lost lost and just like a. steady progression of losses or if I was. up a ton of money and then like let's. say I was up a million dollars and ended. up losing 20,000 like I'd be [ __ ].

miserable even though I only lost 20. grand. But let's say I was down a. million dollars and I ended up losing. 20,000. I'd be ecstatic. Now look at the. end result. One night I I I won 20 grand. and I was miserable. And the other night. I lost 20 grand and I was happy, right? Because I started off up a million and. then lost ended up being a $20,000. winner. Like that seems like a million. dollar loss to me because at one point. in that game I was up a million bucks,

right? So mentally, you know, I kind of. like in my mind I've lost a million. dollars and then in the other game I was. down a million and then ended up only. losing 20,000. So I almost broke even. So, I'm like ecstatic. You know what I'm. saying? So, there's also something you. were just talking about that I think is. really interesting because it kind of. parallels uh martial arts and fighting. in a lot of ways is that you don't want. to lose to someone that you hate. Yeah. Yeah. And that's a a big factor in. fighting. That's why Conor McGregor does. so well is that he [ __ ] with your head. so bad that the amount of pressure.

that's on you is so exacerbated when you. actually get into the cage with him. Like even guys like Jose Aldo who's this. seasoned world champion who never lost. in the UFC and hey Connor just mind. [ __ ] him and he can punch. I mean it's. it's both things. He's got skill and. he's really good at handling pressure. and he's the mind [ __ ] master. But you. see it with guys when guys get in these. emotional situations with fighters and. then you see when they fight with. someone who respects them and they shake.

hands the weigh-ins and they could fight. up to their full potential. Yeah. that. that is a big factor I guess in poker as. well. Yeah. Um definitely. I mean there's I've. seen tons of times when somebody really. hates another player and in fact like. has just played far worse against that. guy and giving that guy so much money. because they they they like kept going. after him, you know? They they really. wanted to bluff him. They're like, "Fuck. this [ __ ] I'm not going to let. this guy bluff me." And then they ended. up just like paying him off and paying.

him off and paying him off. I actually. found that in poker because there was. times when I would befriend really bad. players and then that player would not. play hard against me, you know, because. of that. And it actually ended up like. costing me a bunch of money and then. there was other times when I would just. like talk [ __ ] to a bad player and they. would really come after me and then I. end up just smoking them, you know. So, it's kind of like it's tough because. usually the bad players are the coolest. guys cuz they're just like the rich guys. that are having fun and they got a good. attitude and this and that, but.

sometimes, you know, like you got to. [ __ ] with them a little bit, you know, cuz otherwise you're not going to be. able to gamble with them really, you. know? So, you want that like you want. that kind of. like optimally, you want that. competitive but semi-friendly. relationship because you don't want them. to just totally hate you because then to. be like, "Fuck this [ __ ] I'm. not playing if he's there." And then. you're kind of like out of the game cuz. he's the big sucker and you know he can. call the shots. Well, it just seems like. such a psychological management thing. with with poker players. There's a lot,

man. Yeah, it it's a really it seems on. the surface like an easy thing to do. No, it doesn't. But I feel like for a. lot of people, they look at it and. they're just like, "Oh, he gamles for a. living like he got lucky or he's just. like good with numbers." You know, they. break it down so simplistically that. they don't realize like how difficult it. is. But isn't that the case with. everything? I mean, I've heard people. say that about NASCAR, like, oh, they. just turn left. Like, get the [ __ ] out. of here, man. Well, well, NASCAR's I. would I would com I think that the. closest comparison is with the stock B. like stock brokers, stock market stuff,

you know, because they're really. gambling. I mean, at the end of the day, that that is kind of gambling and, you. know, and they're going to have losses. The thing, the the the parallel there is. that you can go into work, you can. [ __ ] do a good job, bust your ass, do. everything right, and then just get. [ __ ] because of bad luck. That can't. happen to a doctor really, right? You. know what I'm saying? Like that can't. happen with most professions. Like e. even in fighting like even the loser. gets paid, right? You don't go into a. fight and lose money if you lose, right? Like poker and the stock market are some. of the few things that like it's kind of.

hard to really have that good bankroll. management because you can go in, do. everything right, bust your ass, and. work for an entire month and lose money. But that is where the thrill lies to the. common man. The the the average person. that plays it safe and takes it easy and. gets his 401k and doesn't doesn't do. anything risky. That's where the thrill. lies in that lifestyle. Like talking to. you and hearing you talk about this. [ __ ] that's where people that they're. getting their palms are sweaty right now. and they're driving to work and they're.

listening to this and thinking, "Could I. do that? Could I do that? Could I do. that?" Most people can't. Most people. cannot. It's I mean it's it's it it's. one of the hardest things I've done and. I've done a lot of hard things. Um just. because for me doing doing physically. hard things actually isn't like as. challenging as mentally tough things. Um. if that makes any sense. Because the. physically stuff the physically tough. stuff you just kind of like just [ __ ]. bite your tongue and grit and [ __ ]. take the pain and just power through.

like Well, that's got to be one of the. benefits of going through buds twice. Yeah. I mean, it Yeah. It it puts it in. perspective. Yeah. I mean, just, you. know, you've been through way more of a. hellacious physical test than most. people could ever endure. Yeah. I mean, I think a lot of it comes down to, you. know, a lot of people are like, "Oh, like, you know, you must be a super. tough [ __ ] and all this other. shit." And I think it comes down more to. just like how bad you want it. Like in. life, like if you just want something so. [ __ ] bad. Like I just remember like.

when I was doing the 50 m underwater. swim, it was really hard for me. I'd. never been able to do it um outside of, you know, seal training. And the only. two times I did it was when I like had. to do it. And I just remembered I was. just like, "Well, I'm just going to swim. until I [ __ ] reach the wall or black. out." Like, there just wasn't another. option. Like, I was just like, I just. wasn't going to quit just because I. wanted it so bad. So, that actually. helps you. I remember there's one guy. that that went into Buds and he was um. he had like a million-dollar business. I.

think it was I think it was the guy that. like owned Van Dutch or something maybe. or had some like affiliation with it. And I just remember he went into Buds. after that. I just remember he showed up. and he had like a hot chick or two hot. chicks and he had a sports car and. everybody's just like [ __ ] this dude's a. stud. You know what I mean? Like it was. like and then he like showed up at Buds. and ended up like quitting like straight. away. And I was just like but it didn't. surprise me cuz I'm like thinking you. know if if you know if I don't make it. I'm going to a ship and I'm going to be. [ __ ] miserable. Like I don't want. that. Like this guy's thinking like if I.

quit I can go like [ __ ] a bunch of girls. and like drive nice cars and I got. money. Like you know what I'm saying? So. like for him it was like I actually. think it's harder, you know? Like. because you look at like you know what. your alternatives are, you know, like. like you know if if you put a [ __ ]. guy up against the wall and he's got no. choice, then he's just going to like do. what he's got to do. Like for instance, if I told you you had to go crawl, you. know, 50 miles or I'm going to [ __ ]. put a bullet in your head. Like you're.

probably going to go crawl that 50. miles. But if I told you, hey, like I'm. going to give you. $500,000, you know, if you can go crawl. these 50 miles, but you know, you got. money and you don't really need it. You're probably not going to crawl 50. miles. You know what I'm saying? Like. it's kind of like one of those things. It's just like the alternative is what. determines the difficulty. Well, that's. that great scene. An officer and a. gentleman. Remember Richard Gear? Yeah. Where's he? I got nowhere else to go. Yeah. Remember that? Yeah, I do remember. that. And that's exactly it. I got. nowhere else to go. That's one thing I.

tell people when they're thinking about. fighting. I say, is it all you want to. do? Is it is it your whole life? Does it. does it absorb you? Does it do do you. want that more than anything that you. can imagine? It's not like, well, fighting doesn't work out, I'm going to. be an author. If because if that's. that's the case and you want to do it. for the experience, that's cool. But if. you you actually think you're going to. be a champion if you have all these. other escape routes and it's not going. to happen. That's why I actually think. it's harder for guys like Conor McGregor. or guys like Mayweather because now they. have money and they have that lifestyle. and it's like that I actually thought.

Rhonda was going to get [ __ ] up just. because she like she you know she was. going to Hollywood. I mean don't get me. wrong she's tough. She's [ __ ] great. Whatever. But, you know, she was like. doing the movies and she's doing this. and it's like I just I know that. lifestyle and I know the addictiveness. of the money and the fame and all that. other stuff. And now it's like these. people that have been [ __ ] you know, living in a one-bedroom apartment are. now introduced to all this money and all. this fame and people and it's just it's. so distracting as opposed to the guy. that's like, you know, [ __ ] waking up. every day and going to the gym and.

[ __ ] busting his ass and just trying. to make ends meet and that's all he's. got and he's got no [ __ ] nowhere else. to go like you said, you know, and and. for that guy, I feel like it's far. easier to stay the course. for a guy. like Conor McGregor now he's got all. this money and this and that you know. he's you know he doesn't have to fight. anymore like like I mean yeah he like if. he wants to continue his lifestyle he. does right now he's like upped his. expenses and his image and all this. stuff and he's used to all this stuff so. now he has to like make X to maintain. his current situation so he's got a.

little bit of pressure on him in that. sense but he's not he's not struggling. he's not hungry anymore you know what I. mean he's got the depends on who you are. though I mean everybody has a different. motivation some people. It's It's not. even like they change the gold posts. Instead of becoming rich, it's become. the greatest of all time. Yeah. It's. like you look at all these other guys. that are nipping at your heels and you. decide, "No, [ __ ] I am the man. at the top of the mountain and I'm going. to stay at the top of the mountain as. long as my body hangs in there." But. again, it's like that has to be. something that you want to do. And you.

could see the shift. I see the shift in. guys where they all of a sudden they do. it for money and they start doing it for. a living. you see that shift and it's an. ugly shift because they they just don't. have the same tenacity. I feel like I. see it a lot in like NFL and stuff like. that. I'm sure. I mean, you probably get. tired of getting your [ __ ] bell rang, too, man. You get tired of bang bang. clashing heads with people and running. into each other. After a while, that. [ __ ] gets tired. Yeah. I remember. there's a big uh basketball player um. and he would play poker and it was funny.

because he would go on these benders and. he would play for like 24 hours straight. or sometimes. I just remember we just. always bet against him and he was like a. big big like basketball player like he. was like the star on the team or. whatever and so we would just like. always bet against like whatever team he. was playing if he had been playing poker. for 24 48 hours we just bet against the. other team we were right like almost. every time like he just like always. played like [ __ ] when he had exhausted. Yeah. Yeah. [ __ ] yeah. It's like. mentally exhausting. He's not sleeping. You don't eat. It's just like it's just. hard in your body. You're you you.

secrete the cortisone or whatever. Cortisol levels got to go up. I mean, it's just like, yeah, it's it's tough. I. mean, it's what's that balancing act? I. think in anything in life, but. especially in risky things, whether it's. playing poker or fighting or anything. along those lines, something that's. really difficult to do, there's this. weird balancing act. And you you have to. achieve this this perfect balance of. motivation, reward, intensity, focus, discipline, but still pleasure. You. can't be miserable forever. Like there's.

got to be a time where you have fun, too. It's hard. I mean, like I said, I. think it just comes down to like you. just got to want it, you know? You just. got to [ __ ] just want it really bad. Well, there was some study recently that. I was reading about where they were. talking about how you can't be happy all. the time, and you don't want to be happy. all the time. Like, literally, you won't. achieve the same levels of happiness all. the time if you're not miserable. Like, you you don't ever hit those highs. unless you hit those lows. Like, you. ever been around someone who's manic? You ever date a chick who's manic? I.

know exactly what you're talking about. It's like the sweet is never as sweet. without the bitter. And it's like and. I've found that um I actually have an. interesting outlook on that because I. bought pleasure for so long. You can't. buy happiness. You can buy pleasure. though. You a lot of people say like, "Oh, money isn't happiness." Well, money. can buy a boat and a boat will make me. [ __ ] happy. That kind of thing, right? So, um, an example I like to give. is, you know, when I was 16, like my. dream car was a, um, a Mustang Cobra,

right? So, if I got a Mustang Cobra, I. would have been at a 10, right? Um, but, you know, a Ferrari would also bring me. to a 10. I mean, but you can't go higher. than a 10, right? So, let's just say. that I got um, you know, uh, you know, the Ferrari when I was 16 and now we. flash forward. I graduate college and my. dad gives me a let's say he gives me a. BMW M5. If I had the Ferrari, now I'm. going to be kind of like probably at a. seven, right? Cuz I'm stepping down in a. car. But if I had the Mustang Cobra and.

now I'm going to an M5, I'm going to be. back at a 10. Well, it's the same car. You're the same person. You're at the. same spot in life. The only difference. is your perspective because your. previous experience, right? You know, so. it's kind of like when, you know, people. ask like why rich people aren't as happy. and I just think it's because they've. upped the bar so far that only the, you. know, best things satisfy them. Like a. guy off the street, if I took like when. I was when I got out of boot camp, I'll. use that as an example. I go to Outback.

Steakhouse, I'm at a 10. Right now, if I. go to the best restaurant in the [ __ ]. world, I mean, I'm like maybe at like a. six or a seven. I'm just like satisfied. I got three chefs. Like I eat the best. food all the time. You know what I mean? So like that doesn't make me happy. anymore. Like if if somebody bought me a. Lamborghini, I'd be like whatever. Like. I've had them. I don't care. Like but if. you get, you know, give it to a guy off. the street, he'd be at a 10. So I can't. buy happiness anymore. You know what I. mean? I I bought every [ __ ] thing. that I ever wanted, right? There's not. really anything that I want. So I can't.

buy any like pleasure. Um, and also if. you gave me like a regular car or put me. in a regular hotel, I would actually be. at like below the normal level, whereas. a normal person would be like happy to. be on a vacation. You know what I'm. saying? So like I think that has like. some correlation. Like it's kind of like. a guy that wins a lotto like a year. later he is like like statistically less. happy than a guy that got his leg. [ __ ] amputated a year prior, you. know? That's that's interesting. It's. also, I think, what are you trying to.

do? Like there a lot of people, they're. trying to get rich because they think. that once they get rich, they'll be. happy. Yeah. They think that that's. going to give them this thing that. they've always been missing. And so. they've been working hard, busting their. ass, and they look at all these other. people like we're talking about, you. know, you uh you land your private jet, you drive your your Bentley to the club, and everybody's like, "Oh, it's Dan. Ber." You want to be that guy, right? But once you're that guy, it's like that. doesn't mean anything anymore. And then. for a lot of people, there's this. emptiness. There's nothing left to. chase. There's nothing else to do. And.

your life is just about possessions and. upping the ante. And now I got to get a. yacht. And now I have to get the biggest. yacht. Now I got to buy an island. Yeah. You know, and trying to find something. to fill that void because you've sort of. set your life up to chase these material. goals instead of to try to find out what. actually does make you happy. Yeah. You. have to have goals and you have to have. stuff that like, you know, you got to be. climbing the mountain because at the end. of the day, like climbing the mountain. is far more satisfying than being at the. top of the mountain, you know? Like,

isn't that weird though? That's like not. not what we've ever been taught. Well, it's counterintuitive because most. people don't like get they just know. that like, okay, like, you know, my dad. told me like it's better to give than. receive. And I was like, okay, that's. perfect, [ __ ] You can just give. me [ __ ] and I'll receive it and I'll be. happy. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, but you don't have it. If you. don't have it, then that makes sense. Well, yeah. Exactly. and and like you. know just people I mean it's just. experience like I mean like from the. time you're a little kid you get. something you're happy like you you know. you get a boat you're happy like if I. have this bike I'm going to be happy and.

and it's true and it works you know what. I mean but there's a point you almost. have to like get really rich to. understand that you really have to just. buy all that [ __ ] realize okay like I. got it all it's cool that made me happy. but it's temporary you know that's. that's what I'm that that's kind of. where I differentiate the the happiness. and the pleasure you know you can buy. the pleasure, but the pleasure is. somewhat short-lived, you know. Yeah. I. had a conversation with someone about. this recently where I was saying that. material possessions once you have. enough money to acquire basically. everything you want, they don't mean. anything anymore. So, they don't mean.

anything. You can enjoy them when you. have them, but if you lose them, it's. really not that big a deal. You know, if. like if you get an Escalade and some. [ __ ] meteor hits your Escalade, you. go out there, oh, just get another. Escalade. There's a bunch of them. It's. no big deal. But if that was all you had. and you you had to save and scrape up. your money to get that escalate and you. kept it clean, then it got hit by a. meteor, you'd be devastated. Yeah. Once. you have achieved this level of success. where material possessions don't mean. anything anymore, then you can kind of. like, okay, well, what do I enjoy? Comaraderie, friendship, creativity,

like what what is it that I'm actually. chasing? Because I remember talking to. this Buddhist monk. I had I did this. thing once where I went to all these. different religions. uh it was for this. TV show and I uh interviewed all these. different people and asked them like. what you know what is it about your. religion that's the best like say if I. was going to join your religion try to. sell me yeah sell me and the the. Buddhist guy was saying that sex and all. these material possessions they they. possess you and that to be completely.

free you have to be abstinent you have. to be free of material possessions I. said well why I go what if you achieve a. level of success where you don't worry. about those things anymore and they They. don't they don't contain you. They don't. hold you. They're you're not a prisoner. of them cuz you're really not worried. about them. Like if all you had was this. one thing and that one thing was taken. from you, that would be devastating. And. that's what this is based on. But what. if you had unlimited resources? If you. were if you were Richard Branson or. someone like you or whatever, when. you're it's not an issue. Then then.

those material possessions no longer. possess you. But this guy didn't want to. look at it that way. Like he didn't want. to think that that was ever possibly an. option. I'm like, well, it's not an. option because you don't think it's. possible to achieve that level of. material possession or that material. success. Yeah. And that's kind of the. thing I feel like you have to you have. to get to that place to understand it. You know, it's kind of like But try. telling that to anybody who's listening. to this. Like 99.9% of people listening. to this are never going to make a. fraction of the amount of money that.

you've earned. Yeah. But, you know, in. some ways that is a blessing because. they're going to have a lifetime of. being able to buy that pleasure too. because of that, you know, because if. you start here on this lower rung, then. all those little purchases and stuff. like that, you're still like you're kind. of Exactly. You know, so their baseline. is just lower, right? They get a new. fishing rod, they're [ __ ] pumped. Exactly. You know, and when that wears. off, then they're going to, you know, get a new reel. And, you know, when that. wears off, they're going to, you know,

buy a new depth finder. or what? You. know what I'm saying? It's like it's the. little ship, that little [ __ ] If it. makes them happy, then that's then. that's okay. But but to the people. listening to this right now, they're. they're thinking, "Okay, well, you're. equating material possessions and the. acquisition of these material. possessions as being the thing that. makes people happy." Now, is this. because you've got 15 [ __ ] and you're. flying around on, you know, private jets. and yachts and you're you're lacking. like real depth to you. You're a smart. guy. You're not a dumb guy. So, I don't. I don't think that that's the case. I. think you're having a lot of fun and.

you're, you know, you're doing a lot of. wild crazy [ __ ] but I don't think. you're lacking in depth. Yeah. No, I am. just trying to fully experience. everything that I wanted to experience. And there's also a part of me that's, you know, kind of doing some wish. fulfillment. Some part of me that's. overcompensating for lack of things, you. know, that I had, you know, childhood. wise or when I was growing up or that I. wanted or whatever it was. basically. just like kind of like whatever I wanted. when I was younger, whatever I placed.

emphasis on, I kind of like just. overexaggerated and beat it into the. [ __ ] dirt. So then now I can move on. and do something else. Like my life, you. know, I have I have ADD. So for me it's. like hyper focus real. I think it is. I. think it is. And I think I think a lot. of successful people have it. And I. think what it allows you to do is when. you are focused on something and when. you have that like pinpoint focus, you. can be extremely successful. But when. you don't, you're just scattered all. over the [ __ ] map and you can't, you.

know, accomplish anything. I mean, you're just like, and I think a lot of. kids have it nowadays because of the. stimulus. I think I think you have so. much stimulus at your fingertips. nowadays that these kids, if they're not. I guess I guess what I'm trying to say. is that people are just overstimulated. and and because they have it at their. fingertips all the time. Like when I was. a kid, like we used to just like have to. entertain ourselves. you said to just. like go out and play, you know, and just. like figure out [ __ ] to do. And so we. didn't need massive amounts of stimulus. Nowadays, if kids don't have a [ __ ].

video game and a movie playing at the. same time, they're bored and three other. friends to talk to, you know? So it's. Well, they're hanging out and they're. constantly checking their phone. They're. not even looking at each other, you. know. Yeah. And I'm victim of it, too, you know. It's like it's like it's. crazy. You you'll be in a you'll be in a. social setting and there'll be five, six. people at a table and they'll all be on. their phones. And it's just like it's. kind of sad that that we've been reduced. to that level of interaction where it's. just like electron like it's just all. electronic and people you know like I. mean when people call people nowadays.

it's just like wait what the [ __ ] like. why are you calling me like back when we. were kids like like there wasn't even. texting you know it was like flip phones. like now it's like if somebody calls you. it's like wait what the [ __ ] like you. know I have one friend Joey Diaz we. never text each other ever he might have. text me once I was like what the [ __ ] is. going on all we do is call. He goes, "I. don't like the text." He goes, "I like. the call. I want to hear your voice. I'm. insecure. I want to know you love me.". Like he he wants to talk to you on the. phone. I think that's Yeah, we're we're. definitely missing something. We're. definitely missing something by all this.

electronic [ __ ] but it's it's also like. a new style of living and I'm sure. humans will adjust eventually. We'll. figure out how to manage it or or change. accordingly. The one positive thing I. think is just that. you you're so connected. You know, everybody I feel like everybody's more. connected now. Like back, you know, when. we were kids, like, you know, a guy in. Idaho is never going to [ __ ] you. know, feel any connection whatsoever. with somebody that's, you know, in. California. But now, like, that guy can. upload a YouTube video and everybody.

around the world can see it. And and. people are just, you know, dating wise, social media wise, like whatever. They're just there is more connection. I. mean, I feel like it's it's not quite as. real and it's not as tangible, but and. people I think are also losing. um losing their ability to kind of like. interact. Like I like my older friends. like we'll sit around, we'll tell. stories and it's like we'll have fun and. it's like the younger generation when. you watch them interact it's almost like. comical. It's like these people like.

socially awkward like they don't like. people don't know how to like approach. girls anymore. It's just like and the. whole thing's been like reduced to like. online dating. It's. just, you know, it's it's a it's a new. world for sure. I mean, I don't know. It. is a new world. But what I found really. uh fascinating is that cuz I travel a. lot doing standup is that there's no. dumb places anymore. Like you can go to, you know, fill in the blank, some place. in the middle of the Midwest, Boise, Idaho or whatever, and you'll do a show. there, and the [ __ ] people are on the.

ball. They know what the [ __ ] going. on. They're they're so much more. informed. When I used to travel on the. road in the 90s when I used to do stand. up in the 90s and you know fly into Ohio. or sorry Jamie flying to some place in. the middle of the country [ __ ] people. were apes. I mean they didn't know. anything. They were like what's it like. to be on an airplane? I mean they they. [ __ ] didn't know anything. No one. But now it's like you run into the same. kind of people in LA that you can run. into in you know fill in the blank, you. know, Phoenix or whatever wherever the. [ __ ] it is. There's no dumb cities.

anymore. Yeah, there's you're still. going to find some dumb people, but I. think overall the awareness level of. people has changed. And I think that's, you know, a lot due to the internet. You% access. I mean, when I was a kid, if I wanted to know something, my mom's. like, "Okay, look it up in the. encyclopedia of Bratannica." And I'm. like, "Fuck that." You know, I'm not. going to do that. And we literally would. have like hundreds of encyclopedias. around the thing. And like, and you. know, we thought that was great. But now. it's like you want to know something,

you Google it and you just instantly. know it. Like you don't even have to. press it, you just talk into your phone. You don't have to type. Yeah. You just. ask Siri. It's like so crazy. Yeah. Google Cold Fusion. Just shows you. instantaneously. I mean, it's so freaky. that they didn't even think about it in. Star Trek or Star Wars. None of those. places had the internet. None of those. visions of science fiction in the future. had the internet. It's is it's I think. it's going to be when when history is. all said and done, when people look back. in this era, I it's going to be one of. the biggest changes in the human race.

ever and we're in the middle of it. It's. a storm and we're just caught up in it. And like you were talking about when you. were saying how you're so wealthy and. it's just normal. It just becomes normal. to you to have all this money and. someone gives you a Lamborghini. It's. normal. Well, this wealth of information. is normal to us. It just seems normal, you know, and you know, my kids are. young. They're growing up with the. internet their whole life. They've never. experienced anything but the internet. So it's to them they're not going to. know how weird it was to run into. [ __ ] artists, you know? People just. lied about stuff. Like you couldn't. Google them, you know? Yeah. Now you can.

just like if you want to know about. somebody, you [ __ ] Google them and. it's like, "Okay, this guy's a scam. artist. This, you know, this chick's a. hooker." It's just like you just got. their life story. It's like bam. Like. Wikipedia. I mean, what? It's just Yeah. It's kind of crazy. Before we did the. podcast, we started talking about. psychedelics and you started talking. about some psychedelic experiences that. you had and I said like, "Save it." Mhm. Save it because I wanted to talk to you. about it on the air. So, tell me tell me. what what has happened. I mean, you. actually the one that uh that turned me. on to it, the uh the.

DMT. Um I was the first time I tried I. was at Burning Man and I smoked a small. amount of it. Um and it was interesting. It was I mean. it was it's I felt like it was a pretty. enlightening experience. Um I tried it a. second time. We had this uh this when. you say small amount like how many hits? Just one. Just one. So I was, you know, I wasn't like deep in it or anything. She got to the doorway, took a look. inside. Yeah. And I just, I don't know, I felt like a little bit of sense of. peace and clarity, you know, but that. was all I really got from it. The second.

time I did not have a good experience. I. had this uh shaman monk come over and he. uh or priest or whatever you call him, and um I don't know if we did too much, but I just didn't really get too much. out of it. I actually got more out of it. after. Um, but during the experience it. was. like it was just too much. I didn't. really get anything. Like it was just. almost like overwhelming. Yeah. Yeah. It. was just overwhelming where like Yeah. It was almost like a almost like a video.

game kind of is the best way I'd uh. describe it where I just like kind of. almost seemed like everything was kind. of like separating apart. Um but I. didn't really get too much. Um and then. the third time I had a similar. experience. Um, but that was that was just the. smoking. I haven't done Iawaska or. anything like that. I did mushrooms. three times. Um, it's funny. I had I had. a couple so the first time I did. mushrooms, I think I was in high school.

and I just never forget because it was. like 1:30 in the morning or whatever and. I just wanted to call all my friends and. tell them how great it was and have. conversation. I remember them picking up. the phone like, "Dude, it's 1:30. [ __ ]. off." You know, but I was just like I. wanted to talk to everybody. I was like. I was having a good time and then I did. it in Amsterdam, got sick and it was. funny because I actually did it four. times. The third time I did it, we were. in Amsterdam and we were walking down. this long alleyway and we were probably.

about 75 yards down the alleyway and a. buddy of mine um is like, "Oh, uh, give. me a second." And we kept walking and we. turned around about 5 seconds later or. 10 seconds later and he was gone. And it. was probably like a 200 yard alley where. I mean this guy was [ __ ] Ben Johnson. He couldn't have made it was like a long. long alleyway. Like there's if he was in. a dead sprint, he was the fastest guy in. the world. He couldn't have made it to. the end. And there was no like no.

ladders, no nothing. We're just like. what the [ __ ] happened to this dude? We're just like and nobody and and we. haven't even really like started. tripping, but we're like we like thought. this dude got abducted by aliens. There. was like no explanation, right? We like. turn around and we're just like we all. looked at each other like what the [ __ ]. happened? And we knew these mushrooms. were going to hit soon. So we're just. like but we didn't feel it. We're like. the mushrooms ain't hit. We just ate it. like you know 510 whatever you know and. it hadn't hit. Walked around the corner. and there was a police station. We're.

like oh [ __ ] like I guess we should ask. them. And like we went in there and. we're like, you know, we don't know what. happened to our friend. Like we don't. know if he got abducted or whatever. And. we're like, he looks like this. And so. there's this long alleyway, right? And. this [ __ ] chose the one spot to. piss where apparently there was like a. secret door that opened inward into the. police station and there was a camera. facing down on it and he was pissing on. the door of the police station. and they. grabbed him mid piss, his dick still. out, yanked him into the [ __ ] police.

station and threw him in jail. And and. so we get this information. We're like, "Oh, fuck." Like, "What do we got to. do?" Like, "We got to pay this guy.". Like, we're like, "This dude never done. mushrooms before. His first experience, he's going to be in a jail in Amsterdam. This guy's like going to [ __ ] lose. his mind. Like, we got to get him out.". So we we ended up paying these people. and then like I forget we had to pay. them a lot because I was in college and. I remember it was like a significant. amount of money for us but we bailed. them out and then I ended up I remember. I offered like the the the chick at the.

counter I was like I'll give you a. hundred bucks if you'll mail this to his. parents or the video of him pissing and. getting arrested if you mail to his. parents just like get the [ __ ] out of. here. So that was number three. And then the. fourth time I did it, I was in um it was. that trip that I took to Port of Florida. and uh when I took my buddy that won the. or he got second in the World Series of. Poker and I and I'll never forget it cuz. I was um I I was downstairs and we had. this this this big villa on on the edge.

of a cliff and I remember not wanting to. have sex and I was just like this is the. greatest thing for the first time. like. my dick doesn't control me. Like I like. this is so, you know, this is so nice to. just be able to like relax and not like. cuz we had all these chicks running. around. I was like banging them the. whole weekend. I was like to just not. even like have to like think about it. because I have no desire to have sex. right now. I remember having that. thought and being like, "Wow, this is. great." And I'm so [ __ ] up that I like.

took that as a personal challenge to. like see if I could have sex [ __ ]. this girl for like 40 minutes on. mushrooms on mushrooms. It was the. craziest [ __ ] experience ever. I. didn't even really enjoy it that much. But I just remember at the end of it I. was like, "Wow." Like you had this. opportunity where like you were not. consumed with like wanting to have sex. and you completely [ __ ] ruined it for. no reason. That's hilarious. Yeah. But the first. time I had a mushroom trip, I was um I.

was with my friend Eddie and we were. near um a mountain. It was like a very. high hill. We were below it and we were. laying down the grass just laughing and. giggling. And I don't know if you've. ever like if you've ever been like lying. down looking up at a mountain range and. you see the sky and the clouds go. overhead. It was the first time I think. in my life that. I really took in the concept of an. atmosphere of the shape of the earth.

being round and that behind that. atmosphere I'm looking up at this blue. sky. It's beautiful but I didn't see the. blue sky anymore. I saw it. I knew it. was there but I realized that it's just. this layer and then beyond that is the. vast infinity of space. And I remember. looking at it and thinking for the first. time because of this hill, I could see. like, oh my, oh my god, we're like in a. convertible spaceship. Like this whole. thing is a spaceship. Like this is an. illusion. We're we're we're standing. here like we're on ground. We're laying.

down on the grass looking up at the sky. But this is not this is not sky. This is. a thin layer of atmosphere that's. protecting you from space. And then. above that is there's no end to it. And. it [ __ ] stuck in my head that idea. like for the very first time. And it's. something about being below a mountain. and lying down and looking up and seeing. the mountain and seeing the air and. seeing the clouds go where it just set. into my mind like wa that's an.

atmosphere. This isn't just the sky. This is a this is like so I from that. moment on I can look up at a mountain. now and I get this like weird almost. like half trippy feeling. That's that's. one thing that I've heard actually about. a lot of psychedelics is that it it not. like it doesn't like rewire you, but it. just makes you think about certain. things differently. And I think that. they they explained it there's like some. chemical um thing where it kind of like. almost like resets you to like where you.

can have a new perspective on certain. things. That's one of the things that I. rigged. I was considering doing acid at. Burning Man this last year. Um cuz I've. heard from a lot of people that it's. like it it's a more like clean form of. the mushrooms and they kind of like got. more out of it and and I had like 10. people tell me that it was like the best. experience of their life. And so that's. like a pretty strong statement to have. 10 people tell you that. So yeah, I did. it uh this year for the first time. It's. I don't know. Someone wouldn't say it's. like a it's it's powerful. I mean.

they're all amazing. They all have their. own little thing that goes on with them. But the um the changing of perspective. is really beneficial to people that have. addictions. Like apparently people that. smoke cigarettes like they'll have a. powerful mushroom trip and they don't. have any desire to smoke cigarettes. anymore. It's a really common. experience. Drug addicts and you know. even people that probably have other. weird addictions like gambling. addictions or sex addictions like Yeah. I like I said, I think I had a a small. experience like that with the sex thing. on the mushrooms and it was like pretty.

liberating. Yeah. I mean, I think for a. lot of people they get trapped in the. momentum of the life that they're in, whatever it is. And sometimes. psychedelic trips or, you know, sometimes for people it's just a. near-death experience. You almost drown. or you don't drown. You get out of there. and you're like, "Holy [ __ ] I got to. rethink my whole life." And you just it. just changes who you are. Like the. reset. Yeah. I mean, I and I've preached. this for a long time. I think just so. much of your life is just perspective. I. mean, it really is. And I I you know, a.

lot of times I have these um these crazy. parties. I'll invite disabled veterans. out or whatever and try and show them a. good time. And this one time I uh I had. this one guy who got both of his legs. blown off in Afghanistan. And super cool. dude, like really humble, nice guy. And. um there was this like super hot chick. that was at the at the party and I. really wanted to [ __ ] her but I was like. I'll see if I can get her to [ __ ] him. And uh I I paid her a [ __ ] ton of. money which kind of [ __ ] up. She ended. up [ __ ] this guy. And uh and I I was.

I was [ __ ] up and I ended up passing. out and I forgot about it. And the next. day we're we're sitting there at. breakfast and um I was just like I was. so [ __ ] miserable. And I look over at. this dude and I'm just like you know. like what the [ __ ] are you so happy? He's like smiling and eating his [ __ ]. And I was like, you know, I'm hung over. I'm like, what the [ __ ] are you so happy. about? You know, he's like, he's like, "Shit, man." He's like, "I feel great.". I'm like, "You're not hung over?" He's. like, "Yeah." He's like, "I don't give a. [ __ ] though." And uh and I'm just like, "Dude, I got to ask you, man." I'm like, "You got you got the [ __ ] best. attitude." I was like, "Since you've.

been here, I was like, "You've always. been [ __ ] positive." I was like, you. know, is that ever like, you know, do. you ever have a you know, moments where. you're just like [ __ ] depressed. about, you know, the [ __ ] amputation. or any of that stuff? I was like, "Does. that [ __ ] with you?" I was like, "How do. you like how do you maintain such a good. attitude?" I was like, "I think it's. amazing." And he's like, "What are you. talking about?" He's like, "Loseing my. leg is the best thing that ever happened. to me." And I'll just never forget it. because that statement was just like so. like different from what I ever expected. this guy to say, right? And he followed. it up with, you know, if that never.

happened to me, he's like, "I'd be over. in [ __ ] some sand pit in Afghanistan. I'd just be another number. Nobody give. a [ __ ] about me." He goes, "And then. when I came home," he's like, "I'd just. be, you know, a [ __ ] military guy and. everybody in my town wouldn't care." And. he's like, "Now," he's like, "I go and I. motivate people and I give these. speeches." He goes, "And people look up. to me and I'm inspiring people." He's. like, "And I get to do cool [ __ ] I just. got a [ __ ] brand new rifle the other. week for free." He goes, "The military. is paying me." He goes, "I'm [ __ ]. partying here with you. I [ __ ] a super. hot chick last night." And then I.

remembered I was like, "Oh, that's. good." And then it was just like funny. though because like his whole thought. process about it was so great and I. could just see how another guy if that. happened to him could easily like get. into like the wo is me and the whole. like you know [ __ ] this you know I'm. depressed and you know think about it. all the time like how could this have. gone you know but this guy just like. accepted it [ __ ] charged with it and. I was just like he viewed it as like a. huge positive and I thought that was.

great. I I don't know if you've ever. seen um they got this YouTube thing. It's like the story of the Chinese. farmer. You ever seen that? No. Where so. he loses his horse and everybody in the. town comes over and they say, "Oh, well. that's that's terrible." And he's like, um and they're like, "Oh, well that's. terrible now, isn't it?" And he's like, "Maybe." And then the next day, seven. wild horses come back and they all come. over and they say, "Oh, well that's. great." And he says, "Well, maybe." And. the next day his kid has taken out one. of the wild horses and breaks his leg.

And the whole town comes over and they. say, 'Oh, that's terrible now, isn't it? He says, "Maybe." The next day, the. conscription officers come over and. they're, you know, taking people into. the military to go fight and they pass. by his son because he got a broken leg. And the whole town comes over and they. say, you know, and they say, "Oh, that's. great now, isn't it?" And he says, "Maybe." And the point of it is that you. you never really know if something is. bad or good because you don't know how. that's going to affect the rest of your. life. Like back, you know, when I, you.

know, [ __ ] I'm two days before. graduating SEAL training. I've done 510. days of it. I've put my [ __ ] heart. and soul into this [ __ ] thing and I. get kicked out because some [ __ ] guy. doesn't like me. And you know, it's kind. of hard to look at that in any way other. than, oh, that's [ __ ] terrible. But. as I'm older and I've experienced a lot, I can look at that and be like, well, half my class died, right, in combat. So, I could have [ __ ] died. Um, if I. would have became a Navy Seal, then that. might have just been like what I hung my.

hat on, you know? And I was just like, for the rest of my life, I didn't feel. like I really needed to [ __ ] prove. anything or excel or do anything because. I've done this thing that everybody. views as great. And, you know, I I don't. know if I would have been as motivated. And so there's just like a lot of things. like that in your life that in the short. term you look at them as being extreme. negatives or you know something that you. even view as positive that you know it's. just hard to say until you know it's. kind of like run its course and you see. what effects that has later on down the.

line. We're going to end it with some. deep [ __ ] Dan Bilzerian. I knew I'd get. some deep [ __ ] out of you. I knew it was. in there. Goddamn it. Thank you very. much man. I really appreciate it. It was. a lot of fun. Really appreciate it. Uh, obviously Instagram, Dan, Twitter, the. same, right? Thanks, brother. That was. fun. Good times. Good night, everybody. Oh, we'll be back tomorrow with Jesse. Ventur. Holy. [ __ ] Cool. That was great. [Music].