Joe Rogan Experience #756 - Kyle Kingsbury

[Music]. two all right Kyle Kingsbury how are you. brother I'm doing great brother I have a. present for you this is a legit fanny. pack look at that cuz you're a fanny. pack Enthusiast he's one of the few. manly men that I could count upon to. almost always be wearing a fanny pack. wow look at that baby that's a higher. prime8.com special oh this is phenomenal. you know I wanted to get one of these.

back in the day and you were out of. stock for quite some time cuz I [ __ ]. sell out of these things believe it or. not I believe it these are made by roots. and they have like uh the uh pocket is. got a higher prime8.com uh like thing. stamped into it but it's [ __ ] high. level baby I found out about that one. from Dice Clay Dice Clay came in he's. another fanny pack Enthusiast I love. Dice and he had sweatpants on and uh he. was wearing this beautiful leather fanny. pack and I was like where did you get. that oh it's a Roots one it's the best.

and he took it off and showed it to me. we're like you know girls were like look. at each other's purses that's what we. were doing oh yeah you inspected the. pockets you wanted to see this is where. this my wallet my cell phone can go this. is where my Chapstick will go so I. bought one it's legit as [ __ ] and then. after I bought it um I was uh I was so. in love with it I was like could they. make these for me and put my stamp on it. and they said yes so the zip up pocket. if you look at it has the higher primate. stamp with the chimp with the light bulb. above his head.

pretty sweet huh yeah this is amazing. yeah look at the one you're wearing bro. it's like it screams hiker screams. hitchhiker it is I got this pack safe I. got this before going to Central and. South America cuz you can lock the. zippers oh so people can't get into it. they can't pick pocket they have cables. on the uh on the band there like steel. cables so they can't cut them really. they do like a lot of Slash and grab. stuff over there I guess Jesus Christ. let me see this thing you've got I'm I. need to change Brands survival pack here.

it's packed this my travel weight so. first of all bro you can do curls with. this this is the travel weight and this. has uh cords in it where you oh feel two. of Steel cords you can't cut it this. incredible oh my goodness and when you. when you click that in there there's a. three buttons to open it up not your. normal two button. action oh yeah one two and three this is. legit they got the RF or i r. IFD RFD card like radio frequencies so.

if you're passing by and some little. hacker on his laptop he can't steal all. your Apple pay information from your. iPhone and [ __ ] like that someone can do. that [ __ ] yeah just walking by you. haven't you seen Rogue Nation I try not. to I try to try to stay as far out of. the loop with all these [ __ ] hacker. whipper St what is this bad boy so. that's where you click all those three. together and you put a lock on. it I see dude this is impressive stuff. if they made it out of Kevlar it'd be.

even better cover your dick you know. they make clothes now out of Kevlar that. they look like regular clothes but you. can take a bullet with. them like how it's going to Bullet would. penetrate you slightly and then come out. yeah not going to feel awesome yeah but. it's going to keep the bullet from going. through into your body it'll hurt what. do you think that would feel. like depends on the round but uh it. wouldn't feel good it's I've I've talked. to people that have been shot with. bulletproof vest they say like getting.

punched but so are these plates like in. pants and [ __ ] like that or is this like. some type of material that's movable. it's both they have some of them they. even have some that prevent you from. knife attacks they have like a a thick. mesh Kevlar that seems more real kind of. like the the chain mail the bad guy. wears in Commando yeah there's a uh. there was a vice documentary or vice. piece on um this guy who is known for. making bulletproof clothes he's a tailor. I want to say Colombia I think I think. he's in Bogata but he's um he's known.

for making like really nice clothes that. just happen to be. bulletproof like the whole deal. underwear everything that's pretty. badass it's pretty badass like the kings. men guy is this it yeah here you go. Israeli reporter testing a knife proof. vest ends up getting stabbed. well well that's not good well he. actually got stabbed all the way through. or just a little bit oh Jesus. Christ This is a Commando knife and he's. just going to [ __ ] stab him with his.

thing can't hear yeah is this guy doing. sign language in the lower left uh yeah. he actually is oh that's. hilarious we wouldn't pick up the stab. here penetrating. through. oh I missed he said yeah the [ __ ]. dude's goingon to be. bleeding that dude downplayed pretty. well for getting stabbed yeah he uh he. took it he took it quite easily Jesus.

Christ so I guess it works I guess it. works a little bit I mean it's. definitely better than not having that. on he would be dead works sometimes it. works a little bit it's like stab me. like this that Living Color you're. you're doing it wrong stab me like this. well you've seen those martial arts. demonstrations where those guys do that. they come at you with a. knife and then the other guy has to the. stabbing technique always yeah they say. that the best way to Knife Fight is. actually to put your arm forward you. wrap your clothes around your arm and.

put a knife in your back hand meanwhile. why the [ __ ] do I know what the best way. to Knife Fight is what are the odds. you're ever going to get in a knife. fight like you and another guy on the. beach like circling each other with a. knife and your jacket wrapped around. your forearm and beat it starts. playing. no yeah that's right they were switch. blades right M they had a little knife. fight they were tied together people. used to do knife fights in the movies. remember those that was like a big thing. in movies even uh back in the old. musicals what was that Westside Story.

they had the KN fights did Saturday. Night Fever have a knife fight mhm it. did right they had a knife fight too. what the [ __ ] is wrong with people back. then all the cocaine is that what it was. I don't know when did the cocaine kick. in it was in the 80s right I think it. was around in the 70s and it just got. giant in the 80s have you watched narcos. no but I hear it's awesome actually. Eddie Bravo to always talks about how. it's just yeah he's hooked he got me he. got me hooked and now I'm hooked I'm. trying to spread the World spread it to.

the world we're looking for new shows. it's a [ __ ] awesome show man it's. incredible it's really really nuts so is. it documentary style or no it's um. there's some real footage of uh the. actual medin cartel and you know there's. some real footage of like the different. busts and some murder footage some. bodies that they like real real um U. like some of the horrible atrocities. they committed they they show you real. footage of that but for the most part it. just is the story of Pablo Escobar and.

his rise to power that's right it's. [ __ ] badass dude it's so dope they. just did such a good job Netflix just. Netflix yeah okay they have so much. [ __ ] money man they can they can put. together these things and make them like. like 10 movies you know it's like 10 one. hour movies that's the best that's I. can't really we have trouble watching. regular TV now like I think HBO kind of. spoiled us you watch a show I mean even. though the beauty of Netflix is that you. get it all at once so the whole season. but even still like we're watching.

Dexter back in the day or and there was. really only a few good Seasons there but. you know whatever show that's on that. that you can watch straight through with. no commercials and no fast forwarding. yeah night and day better than having to. use the DVR and or sit through the. commercials that's just that's caveman. [ __ ] it's it's terrible it's old days. it's terrible those are the old days. we're done with commercials they need to. come up with a new way to sell you [ __ ]. you know like interrupting TV shows just. makes me not want to buy their stuff. there was some new comedy on TBS I don't. know why we were watching it but they.

kept showing Ford ads during the show. and they were trying they would make. like a little chime like and then they. would have this giant ford.com on the. bottom like they were trying to do it so. blatant that it was humorous but at the. same time it was like [ __ ] irking me. like this is ridiculous it was some new. comedy on TBS some like cheese dick uh. cop show so while the show is on the the. commercials playing over the dialogue. and all this stuff like dist Bo and then.

you see this thing like superimposed. over the bottom of the screen before it. was repeated though like like I mean. after the commercials you'd see this. just pop up on they like this if this is. the future of TV then we're not we're. watching this TV like that well that's. what they're doing to try to counter. DVRs just stick it even more in your. face it's [ __ ] gross man just over. the top with it it's just so stupid it's. such a dumb way to advertise they just. have to figure out a better way to let. people know about their [ __ ] you know.

just some some cool way that's not the. way to do it but that's not the here or. there no I love saying that I never get. to it's neither here nor there it's. neither here so dude I'm on that diet. I'm on the the ketogenic diet now or. trying to uh get into it and you know. you talking about it with me sort of. inspired me a little bit because one of. the big things a lot of people are. saying you can't be in you can't do. explosive activities [ __ ] Kyle. kingsberry spoken you [ __ ] nerds all. you nutrition nerds I tell you what man.

if you get into any sort of a diet. online or tell people you're going to. try something the [ __ ] experts. come I've had so many people even when I. that's why I deleted my Facebook account. I just couldn't stand like over the. years in the UFC I just would say oh. sure yeah i' allow you to be friends. allow you to be friends that kind of. thing and then over time you've got. 5,000 people that think they're your. pals like at least on Twitter I follow. who I want to follow that's that I'm not. subscribed to any of their [ __ ] you know. what I'm saying I'm sure with 1 point7. million people following you online on.

Twitter alone you know you post you're. going to do this and and people come out. to woodwork yeah about it I would write. about like oh I just read this book it's. phenomenal check it out you know and. then everybody's got to come up with. this well here's a article I found. online I'll send you the link and this. guy's a total whack job he's an idiot. this like this like this one paragraph. somebody wrote it's going to totally. dispel and throw out the window what. this guy spent years researching and. putting together in his book yeah it's. always like vegan news.com you're like. oh Jesus it's not a real Source how dare.

you but um this uh this diet I so I've. been on it now only for 4 days this is. like today I think it's the fourth third. or fourth day let's call it the third. day Third Day 100% and uh I had. headaches on like this like somewhere. around the second day I started getting. a little bit of headache I read that on. your Instagram I got the fix for it. what's the fix so a lot of people when. they transition low carb they have. there's a window before you start. producing ketones on your own right you. can jump start that that window with. fasting which is a total pain in the ass.

especially if you're carbohydrate. dependent or you can Cheat It by using. MCT oil so if you up your MCTS the first. three days kind of borderline where you. might [ __ ] yourself then you have you. totally negate any of that really. feeling like groggy like I don't have. energy or [ __ ] man I can't move like you. you can eliminate that completely with. MCTS why does MCT oil make you [ __ ]. yourself because it does it does and uh. I'm not going to lie. uh I've [ __ ] myself at least five times.

in the past two years as an adult as an. I think being drunk no no I don't I. don't drink anymore but yeah what was it. the MCTS I got a little cocky you know. like over time I know I measure. everything out religiously now I mean. but and this everything's fine- tuning. it's all personal process I had to start. with a teaspoon now I'm up to four. tablespoons per pot of coffee I make a. whole pot blend it up with uh. two to1 ratio of carry gold butter to.

the MCT oil then I have my little Stevia. drops that kind of thing if I'm on the. road I got other stuff but I don't I. used to if I was on the road and I'm. having coffee I would just take a gulp. of MC next whipping cream you bring your. own whipping cream here what is that. heavy cream yeah you got to get on it. bro well unless you don't have a if you. don't have a be a mem right there heavy. cream got to get on it bro got to get on. it bro you got to and I got my Stevia. drops here just like like Jim Carrey. does what's the just like Jim Carrey Jim.

Carrey has Stevia drops uh you got to. check out the the coffee what is the. coffee and cars with comedians oh he. brings Stevia drops with yeah he does it. with it when he's on with Seinfeld it's. awesome awesome episode so tell me why. do you have heavy whipping. cream well this is first of all this. marxis on detailed earlier this is. grass-fed free range all good stuff I. don't have a lactose intolerant or a. Dair intolerance so that's let's iron. that out right now I don't recommend. this to anybody who does. um but this is an easy way to get more.

fat and that's really what you're trying. to. do we as natural people from a primal. standpoint when in periods of ketosis no. matter where we were on planet Earth so. I know you were talking about the other. day like what is this ancestral diet. stuff that kind of stuff well that's. based on where you lived so if you had. ancestors from the poles then you likely. had big game and fruits and vegetables. and things that grew in colder climates. you know like uh kale and [ __ ] like that. if you're by the equator smaller stuff.

smaller live animals like chicken fish. those kind of things and then much more. carbohydrate but both no matter where. you were from you had periods where you. didn't eat so that's when you'd produce. your own ketones to remain in a. ketogenic State you really do have to. have a much higher level of fat than. people think like way more to where you. it's counterintuitive especially with. cholesterol and things like that but the. research is out I mean these guys are. putting together things uh Dr David. Pearl mutter wrote Grain Brain in 2013. he had research from 2013 and 2012 and.

2011 all in the book in 2015 he followed. up with brain maker brand new studies. are being put in that book so this is. like the very latest and what they're. showing across the board is for all the. mental disorders like Alzheimer's. dementia Parkinson's they all have to do. with um really high blood sugar levels. over time so one person might manifest. as type 2 diabetes another person might. get Alzheimer's it's just your genetic. coding that's the genetic difference.

eating like shit's going to get you to. have that disease you know manifest. itself it just sugar itself seems to be. just really really bad for it's a bad. deal yeah so but as you'll find it's. really easy to eat too much protein on. the diet and that can knock you out of. ketosis so really eating too much. protein knocks you out of ketosis. there's a there's a process the body. does called gluconeogenesis and this is. kind of where Atkins failed a lot of. people even my dad would say oh I did. Atkins I lost weight and I felt like. [ __ ] you know I have this pain across my.

chest and they call like Atkins fever. right you feel like flu symptoms right. right that comes from what's your what's. your energy source so if people do a a. low carb diet and they think well I. don't want to have too much fat because. that's not healthy and they don't. understand good fats and bad fats so. they say okay well I'll just St my. protein to fill up and I'll have a. little bit of fat and low carb well now. your body has to take protein and turn. it back into glucose and that's what. gluconeogenesis does and it's a very. your body will do it but it's not an. easy thing to do fat and carbohydrates.

are much much easier as energy sources. mhm so if you can keep protein moderate. that's why now modified Atkin or. ketogenic diets they'll tell you it's. it's high fat moderate protein low carb. So when you say like moderate like how. many gr grams of protein do you get in a. day that's all individual for anybody. you know if you're working out how you. work out would you about 220 something. like that uh I weigh 225 right now I. probably have I don't know definitely. under 140 a day grams of protein really.

that's interesting because uh the. bodybuilder method was one gram per. pound at least and they were doing six. seven meals a day look the so if you're. putting on size I'm not going to tell. Dorian Yates how to put on size like he. they they eat that way specifically for. gains and that that is scientifically. proven to help with gains you're eating. like a child basically you have a. newborn they eat every two hours and. they're they're eating everything. carbohydrates protein and fat right so.

when you want to gain size that's the. way to do it but for this you don't. necessarily need that and you can employ. different methods like intermittent. fasting where they talk about Skip. breakfast and just eat between 12 and 7. you're not that protein window of oh my. my nitrogen balance is lowering I'm. going to lose muscle mass it's total. crap everybody tell you oh you skip a. meal you're going to you're going to get. weak bro total crap all the hormones. that give us um recovery anything like. that igf-1 growth hormone they all go.

through the roof when we donate so the. longer we fast the higher our Ketone. production is the higher our. anti-catabolic hormones are so they're. muscle preserving now you could do a. fast incorrectly and you know you go run. a wrong long race or or if you did. high-intensity stuff fasted then yeah. you'd be running into problems there. with bur that's aysis right your body. starts to break down muscle tissue is. that what it's called aysis cuz you're. working glycolytic this is all right in. there the in the Primal endurance book. by Mark cisson I got that I picked that.

up right after he was on the show yeah. on the old Kindle I really enjoyed. talking to that guy that was yeah that. was a really cool conversation and a. very eye openening you know one one. thing that really opened my eyes or. really had me thinking was they've shown. on studies recently on children that. have epilepsy that putting them in a. ketogenic State seems to stop epileptic. seizures or significantly reduce them. that's how the diet was developed in the. 1920s I think it was John Hopkins.

University or Hospital not University. John's Hopkins whatever put together. they had a team of guys there that. figured it out and. um there's actually a. guy who was on the Tim Ferris podcast Dr. Dominic di austino who is awesome you. got to check him out he's out of I heard. that one South Florida he's the guy who. fasted for seven days and lifted 500 lb. for 15 reps did 585 for a single then. gave to 300 plus people on fasting and.

ketogenic diets that guy's a trip he's. he's really fascinating super [ __ ]. intelligent you know like you're. listening to him talk about it and how. he travels with his own exogenous. ketones that he throws into his food. have you tried those yet no how nasty. hell they're yeah the rocket the rocket. fuel stuff when they first came out with. it the liquid it is it is jet fuel I. mean it'll it'll make you quiver I mean. I think that stuff tastes worse than. than iasa but uh now the new stuff they. make it with stevia it's all natural.

flavor like orange keto Cana it's. awesome stuff you love it what's the. what's the thought process between uh. behind eating exogenous ketones how does. that work well here's what I've noticed. um if I'm in a ketogenic State and keto. adapted and I'm producing my own ketones. I feel a huge bump from a product like. like that exogenous in addition right uh. if I'm in a. carbohydrate necessary you know Energy. System and I have hav't been in ketosis. for a while and then I have like oh okay.

well I'm going to get low sleep tonight. so I want ketones I might feel like a. slight difference but it's not going to. be nearly as dramatic as if I'm already. in ketosis really yeah which is odd to. me I don't know the mechanism of how it. works or if my body's just more in tune. to use them when there's no. carbohydrates there but it's night and. day like I think the product is it's. they're expensive like 75 85 bucks for. 15 servings probably really so I. wouldn't use it every day but I'd use it.

for like a big race uh Tosh and I are. doing a 50k and Zion coming up in April. I'll be using them for that for sure and. so you would do it the morning of the. race like how far in advance during the. race during the race like 15 minutes. beforehand and then every couple hours. in for sure and now how long have you. been doing a ketogenic. diet uh man at least a year and a half. I've been in and out of it obviously I'm. not going to there is no point where. I'll never eat carbs again there's. there's just too many good cars yeah. they're phenomenal but uh there's.

periods of times where I'll do like a. 12we block stri kosis or 16 weeks in a. row straight stric atosis and what do. you find when you do that like what's. the difference the biggest thing that I. feel is a cognitive boost it's night and. day the sharpness I have mentally is uh. I mean that's that's that's really what. keeps me coming back to it is the mental. Clarity and focus um and then that's. really interesting you lose a little bit. of water weight cuz glycogen holds water. in the muscles so you don't lose any.

strength but you lose some of that water. weight and uh I just feel more flexible. so when I do yoga and things like that. like I I can get into postures I can. never get into when I eat carbs like I. can't get into Lotus when I'm when I'm. eating carbs even if it's only 5 PBS. difference in My overall body weight I. can get into in ketosis oh yeah what the. [ __ ] yeah so what where is it binding in. your knees and your hips like what's. what's holding you back well you're. holding water in for every gram of. glycogen you hold four gram of water in. the muscle cell so it makes sense if.

you're loading on carbohydrates and. things even if you're not carb loading. but if you're carb dependent your. muscles are going to hold more water. than if they weren't is there any. benefit to that as far as like. utilization of energy or ketones I mean. this is all coming out of uh Steve finny. and Jeff olik they wrote uh the Art and. Science of low carbohydrate living in. the Art and Science low carbohydrate. performance and Mark cisson of. references them they really broke down. studies on athletes in a ketogenic diet.

and things like that and saw exactly. what what kind of enhancements were. being done and they kind of broke. through the mold of what was done before. when they ran tests you know Gatorade. was running tests and it was coming up. like hey if you do this you simply. aren't going to be able to outperform. somebody who has carbohydrates they. weren't looking at somebody that was. keto adapted so it does take six to8. weeks to make your body prefer fat okay. so what they were doing was just trying. it on people they put them in a state of. ketosis for like a couple of weeks and.

then try two weeks exactly two weeks six. to eight weeks six to eight weeks and. other people will tell you the longer. the better so if you were like these. guys that are winning the western states. 100 is 100 mile race um they're they're. in it for years you know you do pretty. strict for a year and a half and then. you see some some significant jumps in. fat oxidation rates so how many how much. can I break down in an hour while I'm. under stress that changes dramatically. the longer you stay in it. now when you do that is it beneficial to.

put on some body fat like for a long. race like that because if you're in a. ketogenic State your body can burn off. that fat you would. have they they've I can't I can't Ratt. off numbers off the top of my head but I. mean when they talk about how much how. much calories you can hold from glycogen. pre-stored in the liver and all the carb. loing you can do versus how much fat you. have on your body you could run for days. that's why we can fast it's literally. why that's another thing like to dispel. a bodybuilder myth on muscle if we lost. muscle dramatically from fasting then.

how would we chase down the herd three. four five days into not having food like. we we for sure evolved to be able to do. this so we could go long periods of time. and still have our explosiveness when we. needed it you know and they weren't. jumping on treadmills and doing stupid. [ __ ] like we have to do now but at the. same time like it was important for. human beings to be able to have energy. still in a fasted state for that long. and what you're talking about for people. una aware it's called persistence.

hunting and it's one of the first. methods of hunting that ancient people. used to do and still do in parts of. Africa where they will run uh and Chase. down like if an animal like an analou. they run very fast for short periods of. time but they overheat they get they get. hot and they get tired and they can't. run like we can we can run at a slower. pace for way longer we could run all day. cuz we sweat and they don't sweat so. they overheat and so what Ancient. Hunters would do would just chase them. Lally until they dropped and they' stab. them there's some pretty [ __ ] trippy.

videos of guys doing that today in. Africa that sounds badass it's pretty. crazy they just Chase these animals down. until eventually they just give up and. then they stab them I can't imagine the. runner's high of chasing prey that long. and and like you're that's your food. it's not like oh hey let's spend five. grand and go on a safari like that's. your food you know like that must be a. thrill you alive yeah yeah I'm gonna. bring this back for my family this is. not something you did while you're. fighting no. um you know in fighting at the way I.

like to word this is I I used to play. video games and love to do [ __ ] and I'm. not knocking video games I'm I'm in a. video game coming up here it's going to. be awesome you're in a video game yes. what is it the Mafia 3 by 2K Games. awesome the guy do you play like a. Hitman or some [ __ ] I'm the dude it's a. the dude yeah I'm the dude it's a one. player game that's like um Grand Theft. Auto oh but you don't beat up hookers. after banging them you do like more it's. a Revenge game I'm trying to come after.

these guys for killing my family oh and. I get to do I mean it's the whole. thing's motion capture so if a guy farts. it's me in a suit doing it really. anything he does it's me doing it wow so. um how long did you have to do that for. we're still working on it it's coming. out this summer it's been I've been. doing that for since I retired last year. and a half [ __ ] it's it's crazy how. intensive video games are you really. think about people working about the. money behind it now uh Grand Theft Auto. 5 Grand Theft Auto 5 had this is it. right oh this is the.

trailer Mafia. 3 let's see. here. [Music]. o.

got watch. that.

[ __ ]. Graphics this video is a little long but. is it how long is it four minutes. oh so is this you here with the backpack. this me the whole way I had to do all. that [ __ ] even at the end here I kicked. this guy into the. creek uh the face is different it's a. actor named Alex from New York he's. awesome so the facial scan and The Voice.

this [ __ ] V the video is. incredible. whoa does it feel bizarre having some. dude's face on your. body no cuz I've met him and he's a. awesome if he was a douche then I would. look at it totally different but I love.

the guy he's awesome that would. suck the [ __ ] video graphics are. insanely good this is really downplayed. too just because it's a YouTube like. when you when I go in the studio and see. what they've done with it and you get to. play the game the endgame it's just it's. it's they have whole teams that do the. environment whole teams that do. buildings everything you can go into. there's not a door in the game that you. can't walk into and have some type of. environment to play with just like the. hair and the the grass when they were in.

N when they were flying with the. helicopters so like this like look at. the [ __ ] grass the shadows and the. this is incredible the facial. recognition is the same stuff that. Robert zamus was using in his movies. when they would scan in we we flew to LA. to do it it's. pretty. yeah seems like it's got a dope. soundtrack yeah well it's late 60s early. 70s obviously there's some good music to. choose from this is awesome man. man wow and we get [ __ ] some nice.

gory kills for people that are into that. sort of. thing. wow yeah it's amazing how like if you. want to talk about people that work hard. nobody works like well I don't say. nobody but they work some insane [ __ ]. long hours man putting together a video. game is some really time intensive stuff. it's yeah and it's around the clock I me. you see these guys when I go when I go. to the map Studio it's real laidback. it's the same place they do like the the.

WWE game and the basketball game that. kind of thing but when you go in and you. see the the guys that write the code and. and actually make the game the these guy. you can tell like they're they're on a. deadline they're having to fix bugs and. do all kinds of things and it's just a. grind like they're definitely putting in. extreme hours yeah it's it's it's. horrific but what I was getting to. before I uh jumped off on the side there. was. in in five fighting I always had I had a. an idea of what I could do with my time.

and if I had a fight coming up and I'm. playing video games there's nothing like. a deadline of this guy's going to try to. knock me out in six weeks right five. weeks four weeks three weeks every day. you start to look at that day at the end. of the day and say what did I do today. to make myself better you know how did I. spend my time and if my pie chart had. three hours of entertaining myself when. I could have been learning about. something else to help me like nutrition. or different training modalities that.

kind of thing I mean the choice was made. just overnight it was like okay I'm done. playing video games I have a PlayStation. 3 just collecting dust I don't have a. new Next Generation I'll probably get. one just to play this game but um yeah. that really instilled in me a love and a. thirst for knowledge and that's when I. started reading about I read more books. in my fight career than I ever did in. college that's interesting ever I mean I. I'd have these camps where that's really. how I'd spent my time is just trying to. figure out how to better myself for the.

fight well you were in a strange. position too because you were a guy who. came to martial arts sort of late in. life so you came into it late in life as. a great athlete who's learning all the. different aspects of MMA all the. different martial arts techniques and. then competing in the highest level of. the sport like pretty much right away. yeah that was pretty. dumb there it could have gone a lot. smarter uh. yeah it could have gone a lot lot more. intelligently planning a career and.

things like that but really it just all. happened by storm you know yeah I I. agree um that that's not the way to do. it but some people can Jon Jones it you. know there's a few guys that can do it. well I look at I talk about Jon Jones or. a guy like Daniel Cormier you look at. the wrestling background it's not like. they were doing something totally. different they were in martial arts the. whole time whether you want to call it. that or not they're in martial arts. their whole lives no yeah the most. important and now they can focus on I. mean look at cormier's head striking mhm.

cuz he didn't have to focus on he didn't. have to spend time dividing up that pie. chart into wrestling practice and other. things right right you know just a. little bit will keep them sharp there. but I can really learn these other. things and dive into them well it's also. when you're a master at one of those. things like sort of how Damen Maya is. with jiu-jitsu he's such a master at it. that all those other things you know he. he just has to be proficient enough so. he can get you in a position where he. could use his master. even look at verdom his striking has. really improved over the years because.

he always had Jiu-Jitsu in his back. pocket exactly exactly and had it on. such a high level than anybody he gets. to the ground with is pretty [ __ ]. you're in a real bad spot but your your. path was the path of The Ultimate. Fighter you know like that TV show and. like and not even not just people that. are on the TV show but people that do. well in the smaller circuit you know. smaller shows and then you know they get. a couple fights under their belt they. start looking good and then they get the. call you know hey uh we need a fight uh.

someone needs to um fight this guy on. you know 3 week's notice you're willing. to do this that's how a lot of guys get. into the UFC fallouts you know someone. from another organization looks. attractive they've got something going. on like this guy's got potential but to. to engineer a career correctly you would. do it the S sort of the same way they. did with Floyd Mayweather in boxing or. someone along those lines you would take. them slowly through the amateur ranks. develop their skills and then test them.

a little bit more every fight a little. bit more give them some fights where. they can work on some things give him a. guy who's a brawler give him a guy who's. a boxer but he's feather fisted give him. a guy who you know who's he hits really. hard but he Fades after two or three. rounds and there's all these different. sort of tests that you can give a boxer. and know when they're ready for those. tests the whole time they're getting. their cage or ring time in they're. getting all that the butterflies out. they're spending more time in the pocket. and inside the old telephone pole Booth.

telephone pole telephone booth with you. they just [ __ ] put your ass in a. catapult and launched you to the deepest. part of the. ocean it was quick. yeah was that uh that was never a plan. though right it was like something that. sort of came along no I didn't well. football ended at ASU and I was pretty. depressed I didn't know what I wanted to. do I knew I didn't want to have a. [ __ ] D job and uh Athletics were. really my outlet in life you know I. hadn't discovered psychedelics or. meditation or any of that stuff sorry.

you inappropriate no worries I had. turned it up just so I could hear. your so um what what led you to uh I. started training in in mixed martial. arts just because I was tired of being a. rat on the wheel you know treadmills and. lifting weights wasn't doing it for me. and how old were you 26 wow no Marshall. Arts at all before that uh I mean I. wrestled in high school so high school. wrestling background all four years uh. three years and two years in junior high. okay that's a little something I was.

decent not great but um but yeah so I. got into it and then uh as I was. learning there was a you know a local. guy down in Arizona and he ran like a. little sleazy organization down there. and he was like Hey you know you're big. and you look good and I know you played. football at ASU why don't you get in. there and fight for me and I was like I. don't know man I fought a lot growing up. but it's different it's different when. you are in the moment and you want to. destroy someone versus some guy who's. trained for you you've never met before. right it's like do it get your feet wet.

if you like it do it again if you don't. like it never do it again but at least. try it one time right I like okay so my. first fight was a 29 second Victory. second fight was a 19 second Victory. both knees to the stomach off of like. three months of Muay Thai training and. then from there I was hooked like you. knock a guy out you know it that is. [ __ ] there's no drug like that I mean. you're just like like just lit up on. fire and then I started training and. really trying to get more serious about.

it but I fought a lot of fights quickly. so there was no development in between I. got the 5-0 inside five months M um 6-0. I signed with the king of the cage after. that and then uh yeah I was getting $100. a fight my first five fights wow and. then uh I got $1,000 a fight in King of. the cage and uh after I took my first. loss I was still training out kind of. doing my own thing in Arizona before. Bader and those guys had their own gym. and so uh Kane was at AKA and I'm from.

the Bay Area I was born and raised there. so it just made sense like I knew Kane. from college but I didn't we weren't. Pals or anything I just knew him when I. was playing football and he was. wrestling I was like oh yeah that's the. heavyweight wrestler out here he a bad. dude and then when I heard he was at AKA. already and you already had C check. swick Fitch Thompson AKA was already AKA. you know and and uh Frank Shamrock had. already been there Bob cook had an in. with the UFC that kind of thing so just. made sense to move home and start. training there full-time and that's what.

I did and within I think six months they. got me on The Ultimate Fighter season 8. and the rest is history wow do you do. you ever think of it like man if I had. to do it all again differently how I. would do it slower I would I would take. my time yeah there's a million changes I. could have made to it but in the. end I'm I'm really happy with what. fighting gave me fighting brought me it. just I mean I can't say like I give this. all all the credit here but that doorway.

opened up other doorways and those. doorways open up other doorways to me. and that really that was a catalyst for. me having just deep peace inside you. know and and all these things came. from that one little bead in in fighting. you know like wanting to do better for. myself because a guy was going to punch. me meant learning about meditation. learning about breath work learning. about just getting more out of life you. know and then oh okay hey psychedelics. can be a teacher as well you know those. these kind of things all kind of came to.

me in in that same timeline so it was. sort of like the not necessarily anxiety. but the urgency of knowing that you had. to prepare for combat that you're you're. constantly trying to better yourself. because the consequences of not doing. that are so grave that it sort of like. ignited this fuel for improvement in you. yeah it was like what the [ __ ] did I do. today you know like you look back at the. end of the day like what did I do today. did did I do anything to make me better. did I did I do you know like it's one. thing to be a lot of guys are like hey.

you know I went to the gym twice I. trained hard I got a massage that was my. recovery I'm good I'm good with watching. TV and just vegging out and doing. whatever and that's fine if you're I. mean when you're beat sometimes you just. need to entertain yourself and relax. that's fine too but you know that that. just feel reading that really became. like where I'm going to read and in. meditation but meditation I was like a. lot of people I didn't get it for a very. long time I just kind of forced myself. to do it and over time it got a little. easier but it wasn't until iasa that I.

really understood meditation and now. with Wim Hoff I mean he's just added a. whole another layer to meditation for me. that I didn't have before uh same thing. with my wife I mean the wiim off. breathing techniques are just they're. phenomenal he's incredible I can't say. enough good stuff about that guy he's a. fascinating character too you know just. what he's been able to do like the. swimming underwater under blocks of ice. the in the the Frozen Ocean 100 yards he. supposed to swim 50 and he missed the. hole and he doubled his distance and.

then Frozen retinas [ __ ] gee couldn't. see because his eyeballs froze like what. God damn it he's incredible he's a very. unusual human but a lot of people use. that method now that method of breathing. I I use it before I go on stage I take. these big crazy whm Hoff breaths before. I go on stage there's something to all. the way in let him go all the way in Let. It Go yeah he's he's quite character man. he's quite a quite an inspirational guy. too there's a lot of people that have.

you know really gravitated towards him. his story was amazing espe and I've. heard him on Ferris I heard him on Ben. Greenfield's podcast when you had him on. and you cracked beers he opened up you. know what I'm saying like you could tell. he got comfortable and you could get. more from him than the vice doc I love. Vice but I thought the vice documentary. was [ __ ] it's 40 minutes this guy's. fixing his [ __ ] hair and I can't tell. if people are following because he's so. charismatic or not he like no. dude but he said feeling is believing.

right the second you feel that charge in. your hands three four five rounds deep. you know like he's not full of [ __ ] like. you're feeling Chi you're feeling energy. you're feeling what you can label it. whatever you want but I mean you do you. feel good inside that's undeniable well. inspiration is is a a type of fuel right. I mean when you get inspired you fire up. you literally can feel yourself getting. getting pumped right what is that if you. hear a great song where you're working. out and you're like and you just get.

[ __ ] pumped that's a real thing. whatever that is like whatever that is. whatever the feeling that you get that. comes along with inspiration like. whether it's a great movie or a great. song or something that just really gets. you that energy is real you know is real. where the [ __ ] is it coming from well. that's thousands of years people have. discussed it and it's you know some. people oh that's woo woo [ __ ] or what. are you going to tell me what my [ __ ]. Aura looks like no I can't see your. [ __ ] Aura but I do believe we have.

this energy field in fact there's. there's books and there's science that. backness now um Valerie hunt wrote a. infinite mind she was a professor at. UCLA and they actually have a place in. UCLA where they can conduct studies on. the human energy field and they've. mapped this out by changing things uh. the electromagnetism they can make. people have emotional breakdowns lose. complete loss of uh motor control like. they have just all of a sudden they have. to sit sit they can't even stand they. can't even keep themselves up but what. how are they doing it like with like.

manipulating no no no it's like a metal. it's like a a giant metal room some type. of special room that they have them go. in and uh they just change this thing on. a dial and the field influences your. human energy field whoa and it's [ __ ]. verified they did this a while ago too. that's crazy is it's like they've known. about this 70s 80s for sure there's an. incredible Radio Lab podcast where um uh. they they put electrodes on this woman.

they sent her through this sniper. training video game thing that they do. where you have like a rifle and uh. there's a video game in front of you and. presented with all these different. scenarios like a hostage takeover these. terrorists show up they start shooting. at you and you try to shoot the. terrorists under duress you know you're. stressed out and so they take her. through this thing she does terrible. just her everything's off just panicky. everything and then they do it when they. attach these electrodes to her and. stimulate with electricity parts of her.

head just on the outside like. transdermally I think it's called. electrical stimulation certain. frequencies were they trying to. manipulate frequency or was they just. trying to work like on frontal lobe or. things like that I don't know I don't. know the the exact science behind it but. she then did it and went uh like 10 for. 10 like killed everybody like it was. insane like her accuracy went through. the roof now they got kids doing this. [ __ ] where they try to make their own. out of like battery packs and like hey. this is all new science nobody's been.

doing this for decades we don't know. what the ramifications are well that was. the Radio Lab podcast sort of focused on. some of those people like oh well I went. de for a couple days like what the [ __ ]. the [ __ ] you doing your head man cuz. they're just taking like 9volt batteries. and like taping wires to their skull and. juicing themselves has no [ __ ] clue. what they're doing yeah but there's. something going on and they the. researchers that are working on it think. that they can accentuate learning they. can accentuate flow states where you get. into some sort of a Zen moment that's.

guaranteed you're familiar with binaural. beats right yes so. uh B that's that expain for came out in. the 1950s they wanted to see what uh. sound Soundwave therapy could do and. things like that and basically um so you. would wear headphones or earbuds and the. the basic concept the premise would be I. can play uh something at 8 Hertz through. your left and 12 HZ through your right. and your brain will match them in the. middle at 10 HZ well 10 htz is the.

frequency of alpha waves so our brain. produces a wide variety of different. waves from 0.5 Delta when you're in deep. sleep all the way up to Beta state which. we're in right now drinking coffee and. thinking in between that you have an. alpha state which is closer to the. Earth's resonance the Earth's magnetic. field where that's like a meditative. state so you could have a flow State. there I know Aubrey Marcus is spoken. about this um that is the Flow State. range between like 7.8 to 11 somewhere.

in there then below that deep meditation. Theta State pre-sleep and then Delta and. and there's other there's other things. in there but basically through uh. binaural beats you put on these. headphones you can listen to whatever uh. the ocean or rain or any of these things. and you would have these different uh. frequencies playing through your ears. and and in that you basically trick your. brain into producing these brain waves. and within minutes you feel like oh I. just took a really nice nap like I feel.

good I feel refreshed that kind of thing. wow that would probably be great if you. were in like a pool tournament or. something like that like something where. you want to relax and get in the zone. like I would think like archery or darts. or something where you just like or. three-pointers you know shooting. three-pointers where you just get to. that feel like MH whatever that is. whatever that flow state is well you're. thoughtless basically you know when. you're in the beta State that's you. thinking your mind's racing that I was. in the beta state two nights ago when I. when I had 3 hours of sleep thinking of.

all these possible possible rabbit holes. we'd go down conversation. wise yeah that's uh that that state of. the lack of sleep state is uh my. shittiest thinking State I come up with. my worst thoughts when I'm exhausted you. can't turn the mind off yeah a lot of. people have that issue yeah well the um. there's also like some silly creative. ideas though that come up when you. you're exhausted like sometimes when I'm. exhausted I'll say the most ridiculous. [ __ ] and it'll turn out to be funny like.

and I have to write it down like where. I'm like you know the writers on news. radio the sitcom I was on back in the. day they used to stay up late on purpose. they wouldn't start writing until 2:00. or 3: in the morning and they would like. get themselves into like an exhausted. stuper and then they would start writing. because all their writing would be like. really hilariously silly because they. were just [ __ ] falling asleep they. were just they're just out of it like. there's a state that you get that a lot. of writers are try to to trick. themselves into just by like getting. exhausted yeah it makes.

sense so when you were when you're. fighting like what was the first sort of. improvement path that you started upon. diet nutrition right off the bat that. was the one where I was like hey this is. something I can control it'll help me. just recovery you know how do I recover. faster how do I flush metabolic waste. um yeah that really was it I mean I've. always been into supplements I read the. muscle mag since I was a little kid MH. that kind of thing and uh certain stuff.

works a lot of stuff doesn't but really. um what you put in your body has a huge. impact I mean anybody who's ever cleaned. up their diet and felt differently from. it even listen to Red vanand talking. about the way you lost and how he he has. the energy now like he just feels happy. at like right well that's in brain maker. also he talks about 80% of our serotonin. is made in our guts by bacteria 80% of. our feel-good hormone is made in our. guts by bacteria. insane yeah how do you think food. doesn't impact that like we know every.

cell of our body is made from what we. put in so a lot of people don't think oh. I eat this doughnut and it'll just my. body will change it into what it needs. to be changed into [ __ ] no and on. top of that you influence the microbiome. by what you put in your body if you put. in good stuff it's easy to see like yeah. of course you feel better yeah we like. to think of ourselves as independent. from our food but we're actually made. out of our food that's completely yeah I. was uh I had salmon the other night. restaurant and um I said to my friend I. said to Tony Tony hinchcliff I was like.

um I don't think this is wild salmon and. he said why I said cuz it's too light. it's too light colored I don't I don't. you know they said it's wild line caught. salmon I'm like not really buying it and. uh I said you know when you see wild. salmon it's like more of a dark orange. and he said well why is that I said well. it's actually because of what they eat. it's from bugs like certain bugs that. they eat or shrimp what the [ __ ] is it. shrimp or bugs find out why Shri salmon. or red. ASA as. asanin I know I'm [ __ ] butchering.

this asanin it's like right a n th I ND. it's sold in supplement salmon uh salmon. flesh due to their diet salmon gain 99%. or more of their body mass in the ocean. the foods they. eat. um the food they eat in the ocean is. high and carotenoids the same pigment. that gives carrots color these pigments. are stored in their flesh a approaches. their spawning grounds begin to absorb. the scales.

huh huh they begin to absorb their. scales o how weird they um they get. mushy have you ever caught a caught a. salmon when it's dying when spawning we. went up I had a bachelor party My Buddy. goes up every year to Alaska so we went. fishing off the Kenai River but we were. we just like fitted in before his. wedding so we were about a month or two. late to the party and it was a Feast for. seagulls they like all these oldtimers. had spawned and they're.

like swimming along like just [ __ ]. just full layers of skin and scales just. floating off them ready to die yeah they. become mushy their flesh is like. difficult to eat too it's like it's. disgusting yeah it's nasty like you. could eat it if you have to if you want. to stay alive but they're literally. breaking down we had a little sushimi. and that was a that was a mistake for. sure you should never eat salmon. shashimi really yeah ever yeah it's not. a smart move cuz they have parasites. ocean fish are much better in regards to.

uh being so if you caught the salmon in. the ocean you're cool to do it then even. then because they go they're they go. back and forth I think it's something. about freshwater fish are much more. susceptible to um nasty [ __ ] we put in. there probably yeah I don't even know if. it's nasty [ __ ] we put in there I think. that's just nature I think fish in the. ocean naturally are uh it's you're have. a higher less likelyhood of uh. Contracting any sort of parasites or you.

have a higher likelihood of getting it. from um freshwater fish like you should. never eat like largemouth bass like. Sashimi you shouldn't eat that I don't. think really I'm I'm I don't think I'm. talking out of my ass here I'm pretty. sure I've I've read that you're not. supposed to eat salmon. sushi but people do yeah people do and. it doesn't but anyway point being um. this fish was like really kind of haale. and then it we were talking about like. how weird it is that your food actually.

changes the color of your skin and uh we. were talking about black bears that eat. blackberries and blueberries like if you. eat um they they it's like certain. hunters will go after bears that are in. the fall because the fall Bears they. gorge on blueberries and their flesh is. just supposed to be unbelievably. delicious like some of the best tasting. meat you can get because and they're. their flesh and then their um fat itself. is like a purple color from all the.

blueberries it's like it changes their. actual physical flesh and it makes it. absorb it just makes you think what. about all these people that are eating. McDonald's and twinkies and [ __ ] like. what is their flesh it's just high. fructose corn syrup and trans fats and. just dog [ __ ] just pumping through your. Tiss was me in college just any calories. I could get a hold of just brutal well. you know ultimately that stuff breaks. down to protein and water and all all. the various aspects of it but if that's.

all you. eat no wonder why so many people are. depressed if you look at the Modern. American diet you look at the Modern. American diet the sedentary lifestyle. and then you look at the fact that. people feel like [ __ ] and what is. depression well there's all sorts of. different kinds of depression there's. some depression that's absolutely caused. by a chemical imbalance your brain's. sick you know just like your liver can. get sick and your lungs can get sick. your brain can get sick but there's a. whole lot of depression that I guarantee. has to do with people with sedentary.

lifestyle shitty diet and just no no. real pushing of the body where your body. never gets to flush it out never gets to. blow those hormones up never gets to get. that blood pump in I'd argue the brain. gets sick because you let it get that. way you stop moving you stop putting. good things in your body and then you. have this downward spiral that just. snowballs into deep depression that no. you're your buddy coming over is going. to cheer you up yeah whatever it is. you're not going to snap yourself out of.

that just overnight and you're. definitely not going to get it from. popping a pill I mean you got to get off. your ass and move and start getting back. out in nature yeah yeah the pill thing. is a weird one because I know for some. people it's been very beneficial like I. I know people that were like severely. depressed they got on anti-depressants. and they eventually wean themselves off. but they got happy first so it's like. did they need the pills no but the pills. did help them and I wonder I don't I'm. not going to negate that at all but I. wonder what lifestyle choices did they.

make during that process as they started. feeling better like oh I I feel a little. bit better sure let's go for a hike. whatever it is like what did they do in. addition to that right that help them so. they don't have the pills now right cuz. they're off the pills now right so how. do you get to that point where you can. be like uh I don't need this anymore you. know two dudes that I know one of them. he um got married fell in love started. his own business business his business. became very successful started doing. really well in life started feeling. better about himself and then it all.

sort of fell together and then he said. you know what I'm going to get off these. [ __ ] pills and he slowly weaned. himself off and he's still happy and the. other one got successful and got more. confident and then realized that the the. pills were probably like dulling his. senses in some sort of a way and then. slowly weaned himself off but he hasn't. really got into uh exercise the other. thing he did was he got off Propecia. that propa [ __ ] that dudes do to keep. their hair took that in college yeah. that stuff killed my dick like a snip.

blocker right yeah not DHT makes you a. man so it makes you bald makes you have. body hair yeah you want to getro. testosterone you don't want to get rid. of that well it can depress people it. can cause severe depression in some. people you know it didn't in me but it. definitely killed my dick like a gun. that it make me depressed just right. then that's depress I mean it doesn't. totally kill it but it's definitely what. beats the [ __ ] out of it. come on what are you doing why are you. doing this to me yeah well they say that.

uh you know there's a there's a balance. that your hormones achieve and anytime. you [ __ ] with that balance with. something like Propecia that you know. that blocks dihydro testosterone your. body's like all right well what the. hell's going on here why is this blocked. like what what what what is our issue. here and it can cause a Cascade of. issues like anytime you like to to treat. the the body as anything other than a. holistic approach if you have a holistic. approach you look at it this guy's. depressed okay well let's look at his. diet no no no no no we need to get him.

on a pill well that doesn't make any. sense you need to look at the whole. thing like what's his diet like how. often does he sleep what do he does he. drink a lot of water does he have. something to get over it's something to. [ __ ] his wife die maybe his diet's. clean as [ __ ] but you know what's going. on there sometimes you just have to. overcome you just have to overcome. periods of life that just suck that's. that's real too you know I mean people. want to fix for that give me a pill I. got to get past the stage of life well. then you're going to sleep through it. that's everything though with the with.

the Western medicine it's just that I'm. broken fix me let me go you're the. professional fix my knee fix my hip fix. Western medicine is the [ __ ] though if. you break your arm they they fixed my. shoulder when I was a dumbass and had a. torn laum I I love it for that but what. what happened to your shoulder what' you. do I was overtraining and uh. decided to try to max out on barbell. snatch and missed it with I didn't feel. anything there then I waited a minute. and reattempted the same weight and then.

I felt it like it just like felt like no. strength at all so it was a full SLAP. tear Kan of the same thing it takes for. you're right talk to people that have. shoulder surgery think I thought I had. this dumbass idea in my head like oh you. know I'll be able to run still and I. like no you can't do any of that I. couldn't even walk like I had to be very. careful with my arm and a sling for at. least the first six weeks then you know. at 6 months I could start rehab it took. me a whole year wow it really did and. really I give a ton of credit to Kelly.

starett uh for getting full range. emotion back the becoming a Supple. Leopard guy like I had for a long period. of time thought like this is as far as. my arm's going to go like not quite the. not quite hail Hitler but you know like. I had no full range of motion I couldn't. get my bicep yeah couldn't get my bicep. to my ear and I knew it was short in. certain positions like if you get in. grappling Jiu-Jitsu wrestling things. like that guys sprawls while you're. holding a single EG that's night that 3. in makes all the difference in the world. like from feeling like hey this guy's.

putting pressure on me I should change. positions or my arm's going to snap like. that's the difference so what about if. you're defending like a head and arm. choke on the right side and someone. tries to straighten your arm out what is. that like when it presses up against. your head everything's fine now but. initially it was a nightmare yeah like. just I couldn't get biceps to ear while. I'm talking to you so for sure if. someone's trying to do that to me then. it's going to feel like something's. going to. tear six months before you could start. doing rehab and that was a process it. was you know just nasty so I'm I know.

now listen to my body yeah don't push. the envelope nothing you know and when. you say a SLAP tear what does that mean. it's an acronym uh it's the placement of. the what is it the placement of well the. laborum is like the it holds this ball. in place right so slap is the position. of it it's on the front side I if I. remember correctly it was a few years. ago but. um yeah it's all they do it all. arthoscopic yeah go in there and sew it.

back up is that what they did yeah I. have very very minimal scarring there. but yeah it's basically what it is they. just go in they do everything through. the through the vision of the the little. cameras and it's it's easy fix for them. I had a great guy he's worked on tons of. NFL guys like I and I'm grateful that I. have full recovery but really it it's. it's a nasty deal to have to go through. yeah Tate Fletcher just went through. something. like this weekend he went through. something he just texted me about it. hold on a second it uh it's something.

called this is really interesting [ __ ]. man it's okay it's. called hinx henex injections they're. site injections where they're. impediments to movement and um anything. they have with sliding tissue oh there. it is henex and uh he was saying that uh. it's an enzyme and that they're they're. testing on people that have joint issues. and somehow or another it's supposed to.

mitigate the issues of uh mobility in uh. joint problems I think might need to get. my dad in on. that he he can't open his arm this is as. far as his arms go how come so you can. arm B them like that he's got like. calcium deposits and [ __ ] in his elbows. he's had surgery on both of them damn. from. what uh you know he's he's eating. cleaner now but for years he ate. whatever the hell he wanted and he still. did I mean he got his black belt a year.

ago so he does he's on the mat all the. time he does a lot of Jiu-Jitsu um how. old's your dad 64 that's amazing gets. his black belt at 63 what a stud he. started at 56 what a stud he was a fat. loser with a super super stressed job. you know sales yeah oh yeah amazing when. I started fighting he got into Jiu-Jitsu. he he did full contact karate boxing. wrestling so he understood striking he. understood wrestling but the second hit. the mat he was like I don't know what.

the [ __ ] these guys are doing like I. have to to learn and uh once he started. he immediately became addicted like. anybody who does Jiu-Jitsu you know the. feeling you get when you first start and. he lost 50 pounds without even changing. his diet in the first six months so it. it was a it's been a lifechanger for him. for sure that's [ __ ] great I love. hearing that like Anthony Bourdain keeps. saying he'll never get his black belt. [ __ ] that guy will get his black. belt he started when he was I think 57. and he's got his blue belt now at 58.

he'll get it for sure he'll get it yeah. he's a maniac he takes uh one private. and uh one full class one one regular. class a day every day every day every. day he cheese yeah why not if you got. the cheese yeah he's got the cheese and. he's also got the obsession and you know. it's funny I talked to BJ Penn about. this BJ pen was hilarious about this he. was talking to this guy uh and the guy. was like you know uh he told you know. because BJ famously got his black belt. in three years and won the mundal three. years in and this guy had gotten his.

black belt somewhere I think around four. years and uh BJ was like well he goes. man he goes you you must be really. talented and he goes no man he goes I'm. obsessed he goes I'm addicted like you. I'm addicted and BJ started laughing he. goes I realized yeah I was addicted I. was addicted to J Jitsu like you can get. addicted to good things too oh yeah yeah. no question I mean that that is runnner. high that's why people would sign up for. a race that's way it's not healthy for. you to run that far but it feels good.

training and preparing and getting your. body ready for that and that keeps you. coming back for more yeah like 100 mile. runs those are [ __ ] terrible destroy. you they've got to be bad for you. they've done blood work on people even. at just after a marathon which is. ridiculous in its own right but they. would see like borderline kidney failure. like your kidneys can barely keep up. with removing metabolic waste yeah from. the piss after those things and your. piss looks like. Coca-Cola well I'm out I'm out no no.

never want to get to a point where my. pee looks like Coke that's [ __ ]. terrible man but people like they also. get addicted to pushing themselves. that's a big one you know like my friend. uh Cameron Haynes he's a bow hunter but. he's also does ultra marathons a lot of. mar he started getting in shape just so. he could you know get up the mountains. easier like cuz in Bow Hunting there's. two things come to play one you have to. be fit in order to get up the mountains. because all that hiking it's exhausting. especially at high altitude and two you.

have to be strong to be able to pack out. like you carry an animal you kill it you. have to get it down the mountain it's a. lot of work so those two things led him. down this road of starting to do. marathons and lifting a lot of weights. and doing all these different things but. now he's doing like ultramarathons and. like he's doing something called the. Bigfoot challenge it's 200 miles it's. like a 100 miles a day and then the next. day another 100 miles like. damn I wonder what the cut off is for. that because sometimes they're right. around like 22 hours just for what do.

you do you take an hour nap and then go. right back to running I guess I don't. even know if you sleep I mean you're. probably in so much [ __ ] Agony after. 24 hours of. running 200 miles that's so stupid 100. wasn't enough guys let's weed out the. the [ __ ] here and make it 200 some. lady in my neighborhood did it she she. did 200 [ __ ] miles she did a mile 100. miles one day 100 miles the next day. this [ __ ] is crazy yeah I say [ __ ]. with all due. respect and admiration I mean damn yeah.

I don't I don't mean like anything wrong. with her she's just tough as [ __ ] but. they get addicted to like pushing. themselves like there's a a thing that. comes to some people when they get. involved in these heavy endurance races. where part of the the addiction is one. more hour five more miles 10 more miles. push just push get into you do get into. a flow State and it. you the longer you go the better it. feels I mean obviously you you can deal. with Ticky teac injuries and things like.

that or whatever you got to deal with in. the race but at a certain point in time. the mental chatter quiets down and you. just find your Rhythm and you find your. breathing and that's that can be. meditative completely and the longer it. goes the better for people like that. once you're in that state you know I. mean i' I felt that in half marathons on. the last six miles and finish stronger. in the end than I did in in the first. half you know I'm sure Runners be like. oh yeah of course if you ran more you'd. know that dummy but it's like but that.

that I get that so that's why we we sign. up for this 50k coming up just for the. fact like all right Kelly start at a 50k. at 230 pounds it can be done right you. know and I'm not saying I'm going to. make a regular habit of this I don't. think it's healthy by any means but I do. want to do it a 50k is like a marathon. right a marathon is what it's a little. bit longer it's uh I think I think a. marathon is 26.2 miles and a 50k is run. around 33 maybe oh okay that makes. sense Jamie would know the powers of of.

Google the powers of Google 31 miles 31. Jamie's a runner too so um that's um so. is that what like fuels your uh. competitive desires now I like doing. different things you know like I I'm. working out with Jesse berdick he's the. guy who who does power wad he's a beast. uh you know so training once a week I'll. go up and train with him in Dublin at. CSA and we do some heavy heavy lower. body could be anything so we'll squat. heavy one day we'll do uh heavy Sumo.

deadli heavy conventional whatever you. know like there's just. uh it's good to train with guys that are. way better than you at whatever their. respective thing is you know and I feel. like I have I can go in there and learn. from him and the guys they got working. out there that does me a lot of good and. I love lifting who doesn't want to be. stronger like if you once you get a. taste for that that is an addictive. thing. and I love lifting heavy weight because. I feel better throughout the week you. know I just feel better as a person. doing that when I'm in shape I feel.

better being in shape so going for. longer distance runs and having. something you know if there's light at. the end of the tunnel like April 9th I'm. running this 50k that makes it easy for. me to come home when I'm tired and say I. I got to get at least three miles in. today that kind of thing you know like I. know this event's coming up so I'm going. to put in some road work today and it. doesn't [ __ ] with your shoulder at all. all this heavy lifting like I think no. the shoulder is 100% now wow and I give. full I can't I mean it sound like I'm. blowing the guy but Kelly start really I. have everything to thank from that guy.

what did you do that he prescribes all. of his banded mobility and you can look. on uh uh mobility.com he posted 500. videos on YouTube he's got a shoulder. one that's I think five minutes long. it's not even that long but he shows. eight different stretches for the. shoulder using one of those Rogue bands. right and you spend 2 minutes in a. stretch minimum so this 20 30 second. hold [ __ ] is out the window he talks. about fascia in order to release it. really has to be have some time under.

tension and you know you distract things. so I couldn't I I wouldn't get the same. experience if I put my hand on a wall. and tried to stretch my chest right but. if I can pull on this band it distracts. the impingement in my shoulder and now. the fascia from the palm of my hand to. my thumb will go all the way to my. earlobe and open up so I'll feel. everything the same way a foam roller. can can relax my IT band right right. right now I can get that from my. shoulder and all these different. positions and that's what gives me my.

Mobility back so the basic idea is that. hey I can I need to be able to get in. this position cold right that's what why. would you name his book that Supple. Leopard well leopards you don't see them. getting up and he I'm going to do a f. minute warm-up guys and catch up with. you in a second yeah you know they're. not you might do downward dog upward dog. and then boom they're going right so I. have that ability on my shoulder now. because of putting in that work over. time well that's what a lot of L of. Fighters are realizing now the. importance of softness and flexibility. and and just to be pliable you have to. be mobile yeah you have to be mobile and.

to be rigid and stiff it it impedes. movement like I see it a lot from people. when they're trying to kick when I see. guys kicking and I see like stiffness. and like a sort of a general lack of. fluidity in the way they move I can tell. immediately I'm like this guy's just not. flexible enough they're throwing these. kicks and there's all this resistance. from their supporting leg there's. resistance from their kicking leg and. then there's a resistance from their. torso you could see it all as they start. throwing kicks and then the kick will. come up instead of go across the hip.

won't be high enough there won't be as. much uh forward movement with the hip it. definitely could be mental too though. you know I always i' looking back. honestly on my career I fought stiff I. fought stiff as [ __ ] right like really. stiff I never sparred I never fought the. way I sparred I look at Luke rockold and. I'm like that guy fights the way he. spars like he doesn't give a [ __ ] what's. coming at him m he kicks beautiful and. with everything he's thrown is with. power right yeah so he mentally got to. that point where he was just like I know.

I'm going to destroy you and I'm not. worried about what you how much. difference was there with you with how. you performed in the gym versus how much. you how you performed inside the. Octagon uh I think it was a very fairly. big difference like a 30% difference 20%. difference I don't know how if I could. put a number on it I just feel like you. know I mean. there's I mean it's hard to gauge with a. guy like CU Kane destroyed everyone you. know it's not be like oh you know. there's this time I sparred Kane and I. got him like no Kane whoop my ass every.

time we sparred right but there was a. time point in time where I I did well. with Dana Cormier or times where I did. well with Luke rockold times where I did. well with Mike Kyle and and Paul matell. and you know even in my best fights in. the UFC like with Ricardo Romero I think. that was the only time I got to get. interviewed by you. afterwards it took me like the only. reason the fight turned out that way and. I was able to get in the zone was. because I was so sick the night before I. fought at like 28 like I had [ __ ].

sweat the bed I was rolling around in my. sweat just soaked to bed this the worst. fever I've ever had and in the fight I'm. walking out and I was gassed after 2. minutes of warming up I stopped warming. up in the in the locker room completely. gassed and I thought like I'm [ __ ] if. this thing goes longer than a minute I'm. done and then I realized right then well. right when they shut the cage door yeah. I have to fight there's nothing I can do. here. but fight and right when I made that. realization that put me in the zone. because there was no thought that's why.

the fight is 23 seconds whatever it was. it felt like it was in slow motion and I. could never get back to that point. because I didn't. have the technical skills mentally to do. it or just the the knowhow of how I got. there you know like I knew I can look. back in hindsight and say yeah this this. was the Catalyst I had my back against. the wall and I just completely let go I. know from. the iasa ceremonies and things like that. like there's a big lesson in letting go. and surrendering yes to the process.

don't fight it just [ __ ] go with it. uh but those things didn't transfer the. way I had hoped you know I talked about. that before my last fight I hoped that. the lessons I learned from iasa of. surrender would transfer and I would. have this like I don't give a [ __ ]. mentality we're going to do this and. looking back on that fight I didn't I. was still nervous as [ __ ] even I look at. photos online you know Pat's going to. punch me I wasn't afraid of getting. punched no offense to Pat Cummins right. I wasn't afraid of getting punched by. him not after Glover and in manowa mhm.

and I'm still like like I'm squeezing a. loaf out you know where as he's about to. hit me like I'm stiff rigid tense so. there wasn't a transfer there of of. skills from the beauty of iasa do you. think that it was because it wasn't you. didn't have enough time to to process it. or you needed more of those experiences. or. I there was a really there's a number. you know there's a large large there's a. everything kind of goes together with. that I think.

um really you. know spending time developing yourself. longer right having it not there's no. 8we camp where I'm going to be as good a. wrestler as that guy right period it. doesn't matter who I'm working with um. that said obviously you can build a game. plan and work on take down defense and. you look at oen St PR he did great. against them it was an excellent fight. so I could you know like hindsight oh. maybe I could have done it like that you. know maybe I could have had better. footwork and done these things and and.

worked on whatever I don't know I don't. really put too much thought into how I. could have done that better now because. I have really accepted the fact that I'm. done doing that MH you know like the. more I would put thought into how I. could have done it better the more it. makes me want to do it right so that Mak. sense what was the big deciding factor. to make you want to. retire it really really was a a a number. of things. but you know I had a second job the. whole time I was in the UFC even with.

the fight fight of the nights I had two. fight of the nights I got to train. full-time for. maybe six months wow and then the first. loss I had to go right back to work so. I'm bouncing at the titty bar you know. bartending managing that kind of stuff. and um you need sleep for recovery and I. had that just felt that window of I can. sleep and train full time and know what. it's like to have full recovery now it's. yanked back away from me why was it. yanked back away because you when you.

lost you made less money is that what it. is yeah and and well with the fracture. too like even take for example when I. had. uh uh one of those fights I got fighted. the night with Maldonado that was my. only fight that year so I got an extra. 40 Grand that's and I was getting 10 and. 10 that's 60 Grand 10% coaches 10% to. management pay the IRS that's not a lot. spread over the year and it's less than. a teacher so I needed to work you know. and then that that's kind of how it. goes if you have you if you if you get.

hurt in a fight and you only fight that. once that year that could be the the. difference yeah yeah it's it's. ridiculous when you think about how much. risk versus reward there is in the sport. of fighting like at the very high levels. like when you're Conor McGregor or Ronda. Rousey yeah you're going to make. millions of dollars but on the way up to. that like [ __ ] can you break through you. know that's really what it comes down to. and at the same time I was you know. becoming familiar with iasa I was having.

uh ceremonies where a lot of [ __ ] was. getting uncovered and I don't mean like. oh I worked through all this baggage and. all no there was there was V I had many. many great visions and each ceremony has. its. own it's its own thing it's completely. unique from another same thing with DMT. that is its own [ __ ] thing and it. helped me grow as a person I can't say. which ceremony made me not have that.

spark but over time that spark went away. the spark to want to destroy another. person slowly left me and it doesn't. matter what a fighter tells you on I. fight because of this I fight because of. that they all inside them want to. destroy another person deep down inside. they want to destroy something well. that's what victory is yeah you have to. want ultimate Victory is you submit some. or you KO them Ian that's the ultimate. Victory you stop them and that's really. difficult to do so the the challenge is.

extremely high and then the reward the. endorphins the rush the feeling of. accomplishment all those things but at. the end of the day I think probably what. iasa and what DMT would show you is that. uh you know you're causing. damage yeah it's just this destructive. yeah thing you know there's no way. around it even if you both sign up for. it and even if the guy talks [ __ ] before. the fight yeah doesn't matter what he.

does it's it's uh yeah I don't know I. bet it would be really hard to handle if. it was a mismatch like say if uh if you. took aasa and you had this vision and. then you're supposed to fight somebody. who you know like in your heart was. really [ __ ] like maybe they had bad. standup or something like that and you. knew they weren't gonna be able to take. you down like this guy's gonna get lit. up like sorry dude. you're you're under a a false illusion. of your abilities you know that that. would make it very difficult I would I.

would imagine yeah well I mean you still. see guys know like they kind of snap out. of it when they have the opportunity to. crush someone who's lifeless and the. referee still hasn't stopped them and. then they pull back MH so there's. moments there and there's also moments. where you're just you know you got the. blinders on and it's like finish this. guy you know I don't give a [ __ ] when. the ref comes in yeah so it was iasa you. think that started you off this uh on. this trip of retiring how old are you. now 33 33 so you're still a athletically.

you're still in your Prime I feel better. than I've ever felt in my life. physically mentally emotionally does it. ever like [ __ ] with you every now and. then does there is there ever like a. little thing inside like come on if I. watch that's why I sto striking like you. sharpen the blade you want to test it. you know uh I still do I'll do Jiu-Jitsu. the rest of my life but I can't strike. if I strike I know I'll have that itch. really you know I'll have the itch to. spar and then from sparring I'll you.

know have a couple good days and you're. who who am I testing that against right. world champions so if I if IU can hang. right and I certainly should be able to. apply this to guys that don't have a. belt wrapped around their waist right. but uh you know the more I've learned on. even listen to like Dr Ronda Patrick and. people like that I've had my face broken. twice to act like that doesn't have. permanent effects I mean it's ridiculous. to think like oh you know it's just an.

orbital fracture no the guy [ __ ]. smashed my face like there's for sure. long-term damage there that I I'm not. maybe not feeling it right now but. that's an issue I have to address and. seeing guys only a couple years older. I'm 33 guys 35 36 and they start to slow. down a little bit or uh sorry I was. getting audio in just one year now did. it pop off sometimes that thing. disconnects a little bit see where the. connection is there we go okay yeah was. my knee um yeah you see I if I can.

notice it in other people who are just a. couple years older than me then I know. that's that's what's going to happen. because it's not I mean you watch a guy. like Randy Couture fight you're like oh. he's in everyone's face it's uh grinding. on. dudes even with he's been knocked out. and things like that he didn't stand in. bang with a lot of people right like. there's not I can't think of many fights. even when when boner you know crushed me. for 15 minutes and laid on me and didn't. attempt much I still took a beating in.

that fight you know when I when I fought. Glover I had no broken bones but that's. the only fight where I was lost leaving. the Octagon Bob Bob left and I didn't. know how to get back to the locker room. and I didn't want to ask anyone CU I. didn't want a longer suspension a. medical suspension W I mean he [ __ ]. buried two hooks after slipping my left. right combo one left took then I threw. it again he slips buries the same exact. spot in the temple and I mean that's the.

only fight where I literally did not. know where the locker room was and I was. wandered around talking to people making. small talk oh hey how's it going yeah. that was a tough fight oh yeah wow and I. didn't know I didn't know where anything. was and then I finally made it back I. was like oh [ __ ] dude that's bad that's. really bad so you didn't want to ask. anybody because you didn't want a longer. medical suspension yeah whoa. so that I felt the effects there on the. brain I didn't feel the effects from the. orbital fractures but I could see the.

effects right and then you know you see. guys just a couple years older slowing. down a little bit and you learn about. health and being holistic and nutrition. and what am I doing for myself to be a. better person how can I live get more. out of life where's my quality of life. right yeah well if I'm doing that and. then that's why I could. drinking if I want alter my. Consciousness it's a better way to do it. than with that [ __ ] right right and. there shouldn't it shouldn't be a. double-edged sword when did you quit.

drinking uh January 6 the last time I. drank of this year last year in Peru oh. last year I was uh I did a ceremony in. Colombia and. uh the guy was talking about addiction. to things and I never felt addicted at. all to drinking but I definitely drank. like an [ __ ] for sure many many times. uh you know but he he had mentioned uh. next time you drink ask what you were. feeding everything we put in our body is. feeding something ask what you're.

feeding and it just it didn't hit me. then but later on in the ceremony it. really stuck in like I could see all the. the destructive behavior of oh yeah let. party let's go balls to the wall and. yeah slapping five and just you know. College spring breaker ASU type jock. Meathead you know more more more more. more and then just the destruction the. toll it was taking on me you know. especially as you get older like you can. drink like that when you're young but. you get to 30 something stops working. your hangovers last a little longer you. know everything it's harder to keep up.

well don't you think it's also you're. aware I think when you're young like I. remember being hung over when I was. young but I was so unaware of how that. like what I put in how it affected my. body um I just thought of myself as like. I was in such a fog of confusion when I. was young just trying to get through. life that I don't think I was aware of. my body like I am aware of now like now. if I do things like just changing my. diet I'm like really tuned in to what.

kind of effect that's happening if any. I'm trying to figure it out I'm much. more aware when I was in my 20s I mean I. I don't know if I necessarily recovered. from hangovers better but I didn't. notice it as much because I was just. dumb Yeah well yeah and there's that. what do we doing now let's get let's get. pizza or you know crack another beard. we'll get rid of it whatever that yeah. I'm with you on that I do feel like. there are as you age your organs just. don't keep up the same you know and I. feel like that was a big but really just.

the the reflection for me of seeing how. I behaved with that versus like if I. want to if I want to feel different. thanks to the wonderful people in. California that allow medical cannabis I. can feel different right I can sleep. like a baby and I can wake up with zero. hangover yeah and I'm not going to get. fat from it I'm not going to feel like. [ __ ] I'm not going to underperform the. next day mentally or physically. physically you also get benefits from it. like many benefits yeah the. anti-inflammatory benefits the mental. benefits of it the the sensitivity.

benefits the the com camaraderie that it. sort of stimulates there's a lot of. sense of community that comes with. smoking cannabis it makes you like a. more generous and nice person in a lot. of ways but. alcohol man it has its place I mean I. think it's fun in a lot of ways but boy. so abused but in in this culture in our. culture it's so it's so commonly abused. by so many people MH and they don't even.

consider it they just just pound them. just [ __ ] you could abuse pot too. there's no doubt about that when I was. in college I I abused pot actually. hearing Graham Hancock talk about his. relationship on podcast with cannabis. and how iasa showed him that and he quit. for a while until coming back on the. podcast and smoking with you which I. thought was great was evil I kind of did. the same thing for me it didn't show me. my relationship with weed that way it it. actually reversed it but it showed me my. relationship with alcohol that way and.

now I don't need it m but it also showed. me like hey cannabis is a plant cannab. Dan Hardy said in one of his Visions. when he asked IAS about cannabis. cannabis is my sister was the answer. like this is another one of these this. another teacher this is another tool. this is here for you use it right and I. think that if you treat it with respect. and you have an intention and a reason. why you're doing it and it's not there's. a time and a place for a man I just want. to get bombed and feel out of this world. or I'm going to push the envelope and.

maybe do a mega dose and jump into a. float tank which I still need to try but. uh you know for the most part you can. have relatively small amounts of things. like that and completely improve your. quality of life with zero repercussion. yeah because you put in the time and you. have the right intention of this is what. I want to use it for right yeah. repercussions that that is something you. have to weigh action versus repercussion. and with alcohol the repercussions are. just [ __ ] devastating over. time it's just such a [ __ ].

unfortunate one they think they figured. out a way to create alcohol without uh. any hangover there's been uh some new. research on something that gives you. like an alcohol-like effect but it. doesn't give you a. hangover I hope it's not like synthetic. weed or some of these right a weirdo. knockoff [ __ ] I always wonder what. effects on internal organs fighting has. not just on the kidneys which we know. get really [ __ ] up over weight cutting. it's really bad for you uh kidney stones. are one side effect that some people.

seem to suffer from dehydration from. weight cutting I know Aldo has had some. kidney stones a lot of Fighters have had. kidney stones they're they're really. common for guys who cut a lot of weight. but also I just wonder just body kicks. and knees to the body and punches I mean. how many times can you get kicked in the. liver before it does damage to your. liver I mean if alcohol's bad for your. liver what is a Shin do to it you know. what is what is a [ __ ] vicious left. hook to the liver body blasted. yeah yeah I wonder I don't know if.

there's any I mean we constantly. consider the stress on the brain and the. damage to the brain from head impacts. and brain trauma but what about body. trauma I I always wonder about that. because I've seen guys get [ __ ]. blasted ain't good we know that it's not. like you watch a guy eat a liver shot. and the fight's over from a body kick. mhm and you're you're oh he's yeah rub. some dirt on it he's fine no just end of. the fight. no so when you look back at your career.

and you look back at all these wars and. all these crazy fights that you got in. do you um do you think about the damage. do you is it something you just like put. aside and you know that there probably. was some done and just just move forward. and stay positive and be healthy from. here on out and I I don't here's one. thing that I I disagree with people when. they say like you know when we grew up. they said oh hey you have a a set number.

of brain cells and whatever you lose. you're not going to get back so so we. now know that's [ __ ] like our brain. can create new cells neurogenesis. happens and the more you do the more new. stuff you do whether it's learning an. instrument or a new language or taking a. different Trail to hike whatever that. helps strengthen these new Pathways. right and make you smarter and just keep. your brain young yeah I don't think for. one second that anything that I've done. in my career can't be overcome or that I. can't really feel like from diets like.

this and supplementing with MCTS and. different things like that I feel. quicker now and sharper now than I ever. have in my life mentally so that that's. good but that said I don't I don't look. back and say oh this did this to me I. look back and say I don't want to do. more of that right yeah it's a good way. of looking at it um I've talked about. this in the podcast I don't know if you. heard it Bill Romanowski created that. neuro one supplement specifically. because of his football career because. of all the head impacts that he had he's. having memory issues a bunch of issues. with his brain I wonder what's in it do.

you know what the product has I don't. have it here but uh he sent me a couple. tubs of it because I talked about it a. bunch of times and um it's not something. that we sell at on it it's just. something I love it's just good uh and. uh it's the first neut Tropic I've ever. tried before we created Alpha Brain and. um do you stack them now no I just I. rarely try one but I like to do. different things I like to do I I like. to occasionally try paraset I like yeah. that's I'm way into neut Tropics yeah.

you tried aniracetam or oxiracetam yes I. have how do you like the difference um. it's hard to tell you know that's one of. the things about like I had a. conversation with a dude last night at. The Comedy Store it was really funny. because it was hilarious because the. dude was hammered right he's like man I. [ __ ] tried Alpha Brain but uh [ __ ] I. don't know if it worked like go okay. defined worked like what are you doing I. just [ __ ] you know I'm just Hing. hanging out man but I don't I don't it.

didn't feel any difference I go okay. it's not it's not like going to make you. smarter well the idea behind it is if. you're if you're involved in a task like. for me here's Alpha Brain and neut. Tropics are really critical for me. because I rely on my memory a lot like. when I'm doing the UFC it's a big factor. I'm constantly bringing up past fights. and I'm constant ly talking about. different situations and Transitions and. you know this happens when you do that. or that and there's all these like. connections that I have to make my brain.

so verbal memory recalling fights things. like that neut Tropics are critical for. that kind of thing but if you don't have. anything that requires your memory how. do you know if it's working if you don't. have anything that requires you to form. sentences on the Fly how do you know if. it's working like so I I think he just. had an a silly idea I think he thought. that he was going to take this stuff and. all a sudden he's like man I know what. I'm doing with my life like the [ __ ]. light bulb goes just got uploaded from. The Matrix with the some I get it I get.

it all man I didn't feel but it was. hilarious cuz he was [ __ ] hammered. dude was hammered he's like I don't know. if I felt it I'm like okay dude first of. all how how shitfaced are you right now. he's like I'm pretty. drunk so I'm like well this conversation. is going to be weird anyway you know. you're probably not going to remember. what I'm saying but if you had to do. something it was important and I. explained all the different things. that's been shown clinically in double. blind Placebo controlled studies to. improve on like these are like. statistics like you can you can show.

when you can show it with 60 people and. you can show that the people that take. it have these effects versus the people. that don't take it like this is this is. where it'll help you but it's not it's. not going to just make you smarter but. for someone who relies on their mind a. lot whether it's uh for creativity or. for me I I like to take it now even. before I work out I started doing it. before I work out now I'm noticing less. fatigue my mind stays fresh longer like. in grueling long-term workouts like like. a long series of pad workouts I can I.

can maintain my concentration like deep. into the seven eighth and Ninth round of. hitting pads I don't fade off as much. like where I can't remember the. combinations you know you get so tired. you're like okay what is it again double. jab right hand left hook right kick step. knee got it and then you know you're. into the left hook and you're like what. the [ __ ] is next cuz you're so tired. your brain doesn't work that good so I. think mental fatigue can contribute to. physical fatigue 100% that's in that's. in San's book also they talk about how.

ketones are are pretty much this steady. fuel so your brain doesn't Bonk because. there's an unlimited stream of energy. coming in at all times you don't hit the. window where you run out of glycogen and. your brain as the master regulator says. wait a minute no no no no we we have a. very low Supply here it's finite nothing. else is coming in so we're going to. downregulate everything and make you. perform like [ __ ] right now in an effort. to hold on to what we have you know you. don't ever hit that wall with the. ketones present in the blood well I've.

never been in a ketogenic State I don't. think I I don't you ever fasted for. anything yeah maybe maybe like 12 hours. I've never done like several days no I. even like fasting is just deciding I. don't feel like eating right now you. know I've never like consciously decided. to fast it's pretty cool yeah this is an. interesting experiment because um I just. said well you know there's nothing to. lose here there nothing's going to [ __ ]. me up I'm just going to give this a shot. and see what happens I was a little flat.

yesterday like trying to push through um. uh elliptical workout it was a little. flat but nothing huge just uh L required. a little more grit you know just. required me to dig down but I would. rather just get off that [ __ ] thing. and around the 35 minute Mark like the. last 10 minutes were pretty rough but. other than that my brain doesn't seem. too foggy that was one of the things I. was concerned with that I'd go on stage. and I'd just be stupid like my brain. wouldn't work that good I'd forget what. I was talking about but well do you do.

you blend I mean do you do bulletproof. style where you blend butter and M what. this is okay yeah this is uh so you. probably have at least some help I want. to check you out actually I brought in. what's want to check you out bro what. you doing bro I know I told you about. this briefly here yes you did what is it. you're not if you're not checking you're. guessing so one of the things about. these ketogen diets is you got to you. got to act like you're diabetic you get. a blood Ketone. Monitor and you these strips my finger.

or something yeah I'm GNA I'll give you. a fresh one here so you don't reuse my e. can I get AIDS from you maybe fromp. Jenny high. [Laughter]. five all right so what he's got here is. some little thing that you little. pricker so what is it like a needle or. something you my little prick. it's uh does it matter which it's a. Lancet I think is what they call it. doesn't matter no so what we have here. is a blood Ketone.

strip oh yeah you're nice and hot whoa. what you want there to be warmth in your. hands otherwise it's a [ __ ] did. that make blood I didn't even feel that. that's so. weird I didn't feel it bro that's so. tough I am bro little blood I don't. [ __ ] feel that well you're going to. have to feel another one here God damn. it I'm going to feel this one now I was. talking [ __ ] so what he's got is like. this little punch thing almost like a. little stap.

move that one I didn't feel at all like. the other one I felt it touch my finger. oh that one didn't work that's why let. me give you a brand new one here for the. here yo my Skin's too thick bro I got. double skinn thick it's not you know all. the years of hard training and the. makiwara board I do a lot of a little. lot of makiwara work you know what. machiwara is folks if you don't know uh. karate guys they take a a board and it's. like sort of uh nailed to the ground or.

dug into the ground and sort of locked. in place and the board will give a. little bit and they wrap the board up. with a rope so it's really hard and uh. then they punch it and they develop. these uh callus these thick calluses on. their Knuckles and uh then they would go. from that to Brick work my friend John. Lee back in Boston he used to have uh. his his right his index finger and his. [ __ ] you finger the knuckles to those. fingers were fused it would be it was.

one big fat Rhino knuckle and it was all. just from him punch shose knuckle yeah. it was all from him punching [ __ ] and. that is the last guy you wanted punching. you he was punching through bricks and. [ __ ] yo your [ __ ] little needle things. are not working on my [ __ ] Savage. skin is it working this time. God damn it well you got some [ __ ] ass. needles you need to get. some needles bro I have to figure this. out sorry so does it work different on.

different people is that what's going on. for real like no [ __ ] does do people. have thicker skin why we can go deeper. but I'm I'm trying not to be a dick and. put it on the highest setting and punch. this thing your finger on the highest. setting I'm going to flex while you do. it it's actually the stress of you. um hold on of my hand and shoving that. thing over and over again with no pain. I'm like eventually I'm going to feel. pain so it's like if I just felt pain.

the first time it' be very. minimal what you got now you got a razor. blade what's in there I'm putting in a. new test strip just to double check here. and explain to me what this thing is. testing for there's a little blood on my. fingers yeah we want. more did you feel that barely. damn go go deep son don't be scared I do. have double thick rhino skin Jamie jab. it in there who. hey I don't like that that.

phrasing it's not working. huh godamn I'm going to allow you to. just [ __ ] tap this thing okay what do. you do what is it I want you to just tap. it what is it it's a [ __ ] little. needle all right I'm just shove it in. there there you go shove it in there. pull it out now make yourself bleed a. bit give me a drop. put it on this bad boy is that good. could. be man I shoved that all the way.

in yeah I want you to you did oh there. we go that's what I want okay oh don't. worry folks okay now we got yes oh we. got some Sweet Blood now we got a. countdown here 10 seconds it's going to. tell us your blood ketones so basically. you want to be between. 0.5 um a what's does it say low low what. do that mean low battery good low. battery or low ketones low keytones me. yeah really that doesn't make sense.

let's do another strip I'm bleeding I. know we got you I got some good blood. here another strip keep up keep the. bloodline open now squeeze this [ __ ]. some [ __ ] junk science here you go is. this Bro Science bro bro science bro bro. science. bro all right one more test here okay. three two. one 0.1 what is that pathetic that's.

terrible you want to be between. 0.5 and about 3.0 you can go higher than. that if you're like in a really extended. fast okay or if you take exogenous. ketones while you're in then you go. above 3.0 but basically 0.5 you're. nutritional ketosis give it one more. test just to be sure this thing isn't. [ __ ] cuz I'm not sure to believe. your [ __ ] stupid. machine if it varies that's a problem.

right if you do it again and you get a. different reading oh yeah that would be. a. problem I don't know that I'm going to. get it why is that what about all that. blood you have to stab well cuz it's got. to come in a little. dry. just I daab it. again what's the negative of being where.

he's at at 0.1 want stab it again well. he's in no man's land so he doesn't have. carbohydrates coming in right to fuel. his body and he's not producing ketones. so did you work out beforehand yeah. that's why oh that just [ __ ] S I. should have asked beforehand so whatever. ketones you have from the MCTS your. body's using oh that's why your blood. ketones aren't High I worked out right. before I got here that's exactly yeah. it's going to confirm it here but that's. exactly why so I've I've tested I've. been in ketosis for a while and tested.

and seen like 0.3 and I'm like what the. [ __ ] and then I listen to Dominic Diago. talk about that your body will use with. the ketones out that's why you're. producing it's an energy source right so. you work out that's going to go to fill. your body the way that blood glucose. would have prior to that what does it. say E4 means it's cold you know what I'm. saying yeah what do that mean machine I. don't. know it's too cold I guess it's too cold.

the machine the machine is cold so what. do you do do you heat it up put in the. microwave I stick it in my arm pit when. I'm getting ready the machine yeah just. right here boom okay makes it warmer but. it's I just pricked myself for nothing. it can't you did pick yourself for. nothing what are all these uh things. that you're sticking in there what are. all those things these are all the the. this is your trash actually that's your. little I don't know where you've been. basket that's uh what are those things. in there those are the lancets that. poked you and then the test. strips okay but anyways you would do.

this at night usually before dinner. you're going to have the highest ketones. then if you have a night. workout at least a cou yourself right. now so I can see what you get I'm out. you're out put the last one the last. strip to you oh sorry I got the no it's. all good I got more at the house but so. you carry these around you just do it. once a day or how many times a day do it. they're a few bucks a piece so I usually. just do them at night um when the. ketones are highest just to make sure. that I'm nutritionally there uh MCT oil.

is usually worn off by that point so I. can tell like am I producing my own. ketones as opposed to just getting it. artificially raised from the MCTS mhm oh. I see okay I it doesn't need to be 3.0. if it's 0.5 I'm good but I will feel the. difference when I reach the 1.0 between. 1.0 and 2.0 one .0 and 2.0 and what was. I 0.1 0.1 yeah that's dog [ __ ] but it. doesn't mean anything cuz you just. worked out I'm.

depressed okay so what I'm shooting for. though is uh 0.5 or higher anything or. higher but you've gotten to one or two. I've been above 3.0 from fasting or from. exogenous ketones but if I'm on a daily. basis between 1.0 and 2.0 then I'm doing. good and that means the foods I'm. putting in my body I I haven't you know. uh exceeded my protein limits and Claus. gluconeogenesis or any of these things. like i' I've dialed in my nutrition over. time and that's what it is it's just.

fine-tuning right like women can. process much more carbohydrates than we. can on a ketogenic diet way more yeah. way more I don't know if it's because of. the hormones and the menstrual cycle or. cuz they're evil I have no idea but they. can get away with way more could be evil. just some some Voodoo that's interesting. I wonder what that is I mean wonder if. it's a it's because they have to. maintain a higher body fat to to make. lacto to make milk and to it's possible. feed the baby and grow. titties Tosh yeah TSH was in ketosis the.

whole time in during the pregnancy and. she still had plenty of carbohydrates. that's interesting and this was so it. was a conscious decision to to reach. that state during the pregnancy not at. all no no no she was she she asked me. like oh hey see see where I'm at and I'm. like I'm going to waste $3 on you right. now you're you're at 0.0 I just told you. where you're at she like no seriously I. want to see like I feel good you know. like okay so we did it and she was. higher than I was whoa I was like what. the [ __ ] but it makes perfect sense I.

mean if you're sending resources to. build a human right you know of and you. want that steady flow it makes sense the. body would produce that in a situation. like that just in case you ran out of. carbohydrates it is interesting because. women often times when they're pregnant. they crave really fatty foods like they. crave ice cream and things along those. lines but that's not ketogenic right. because has a lot of uh sugar in it well. there's sugar in that yeah I mean. Cravings are Cravings but you want to if. there's a if there's a calling to have. more fat you want more fat that doesn't.

necessarily mean it's going to put you. in ketosis right right now if you say if. you're in this ketogenic State and you. eat some carbohydrates you eat like a. big bowl of pasta how much does It Whack. you out of that ketogenic state three to. four three to four days is typically. what it would take to get back in but if. you've been put it this way I mean I. because I've been in and out of it for. as long as I have and because I work out. the way you work out you know. high-intensity stuff with kettle bells. or I'll go for a distance run whatever. and then still train on the mat that's.

high intensity when you're grappling. um I had uh Saturday we went off the. deep end I had a like two gluten-free. pizzas with TSH and we had a bunch of. gluten-free cookies and a freaking liter. of uh this awesome grass-fed milk loaded. with carbs I mean I probably had 500. gram of carbohydrates grass-fed milk is. loaded with carbs milk for sure milk is. load milk period doesn't matter if it's. grass-fed it matters if it's grass-fed. or green fed but not from a carbohydrate. standpoint nobody would think that milk.

would be a source of carbohydrates 9 to. 12 grams per cup so if you have a liter. and you have four cups which is easy to. do when you're eating cookies then you. just had 50 grams of carbs just from the. milk whoa how many grams of carbs you. supposed to have a day in a in a. ketogenic diet between 30 and 50 during. the keto adaptation phase which six to8. weeks and then after that you can play. but that's the whole reason you check. cuz if you're doing 50 grams a day. thinking hey I'm within my limit and. you're still at. 3 point4 and [ __ ] what.

somebody else tells you that's when it's. time to dial it down a bit or maybe my. my my carbohydrates are fine but I'm. still not in ketosis that means you're. eating too much protein or maybe I need. to add more fat to my meals so the ratio. is there when they talked about it John. Hopkins they were talking about for the. for the kids with epilepsy a 4:1 ratio. of fat to protein and carbohydrates. combined now that's pretty it's pretty. hard to do if you think of how many you. you eat a steak there's 50 grams of. protein and there's equal amount of fat. let's.

say now I have to multiply that by four. and if there's any carbohydrates to add. to that then I add that to the total for. the 4:1 ratio so you're going to have. just ridiculous amounts of fat to to. accomplish that what is that device. called that you just used it's a blood. Ketone meter I use the novax one as the. cheapest there's a couple other ones. that are5 or $6 a strip you can get that. on uh Amazon the meter itself is only. like 20 bucks and then the strips are a. little bit more and so the strips you.

have to use blood is there another way. to do it there is a piss test which. doesn't work at all um the problem with. that is once your body becomes keto. adapted it learns how to better use. these things so they're not excreted in. the urine so when it tests for acetone I. think is the ceto acetate something like. that it's one of the less prominent key. ketones to begin with so when we convert. fat into ketones we have three major. Ketone bodies beta hydroxy berate is the. one that you test for with the blood. strip that's the most 80% most abundant.

in the blood if you do the urine strip. and your body's becoming keto adapted. well you're not going to piss anymore. out so you could be completely in. nutritional ketosis and use a strip and. be hey man I'm not in ketosis what's. going on and it's not that at all it's. just that your body's not wasting any. out of the urine. anymore then they have breast strips or. breath this breath meter you can blow. into and I can't stand the thing I used. it for a while I try to get into it. because it's obviously you can reuse it. 100,000 times and it's still going to be. the same cost but uh it shows like a on.

a gliding scale uh like an LED light so. green is not in ketosis red is in ketos. whatever and then in between you have. like green yellow and yellow orange and. it it's all it's so [ __ ] hard to read. and then you're trying to figure out. well I feel that you know it's no no no. no just do the blood get get tell me to. the tent exactly where I'm at and then. you get to all the guest work out and. what exactly is it measuring like when. you say blood ketones so what does the.

number represent like 01 the millimolar. is a measurement of the beta hydroxy. berate Ketone millimolar millimolar H. wow and so you've been doing this for a. while yeah I've read a ton of books on. it and the thing is you know most diets. people I've tried a ton of different. diets. this one you feel good because you can. eat as much as you want like when Dave. asey talks about eating 4,500 calories a. day and working out whatever he said 15. minutes a [ __ ] month or whatever some. nonsense yeah he you are going to lose.

weight um a better example in in the. 4-Hour Body Tim Ferris talks about the. study they did on calories in calories. out I love this study three three uh. groups of people had 2,000 calories a. day want group a 90% carbs Group B 90%. protein Group C 90% fat you know how it. shaked out. out carbohydrate group gained 1 and2. pounds a day protein group lost a/ qu. pound a day fat group lost a pound a day. 90% fat in their diet and they lost a.

pound a day a pound on the same 2,000. calories keep think about that 2,000. calories is not a lot so if you had. 2,000 calories of carbohydrates and. you're going to gain weight from that. you can gain weight from 2,000 calories. a day yeah that's incredible so there's. other factors and things like that but. that just dispels this concept. of all Cal you know count calories. they're all the same they're not the. same they're not the same at all how. they impact hormones is not the same. hormonal function insulin response how.

we when our body's what does insulin do. well it stores it shuttles things right. so if we are constantly inundating. ourselves with carbohydrates and in this. store mode any excess is getting put on. right how do you tell your body to burn. fat which takes a it's a longer harder. process when you have this easy super. rapid thing it can break down and then. use glycolytically it doesn't make sense. but when you talk to the Instagram. Wizards these these these dietitians in. training they'll tell you bro you need.

[ __ ] carbohydrates to operate your. brain bro yeah all the science I love. this too you talk about science and and. Eddie Bravo would probably like this too. Mr conspiracy theory guy I love him who. pays for that [ __ ] carbohydrate. research right Gatorade Gatorade Sports. Science Institute Gatorade Sports. Science Institute is done a majority of. these studies yeah Gatorade nesle no. it's Gatorade it's Gatorade that's doing. a lot of the studies on carbohydrate. performance they're the guys that also.

proved oh this is the the Tipping Point. for fat oxidation in an hour even though. they use people that have been in. ketosis for two weeks instead of two. years so when you talk about guys like. Jeff finny and Steve volock who' been. doing this research now since the 880s. and using athletes that have been keto. adapted for a while that's when you. really begin to see like oh [ __ ]. okay this can work and not just from a. physical standpoint like I said the. thing that I get mostly from it is the. mental it's the it's the sharpness and. uh Dominic de austino was talking about.

how you can go on way less sleep but. there's some type of thing that ketones. do with the brain where you actually are. more rested even if you had if you were. sleep deprived so if you had five or six. hours of sleep you could still wake up. feeling refreshed and have your. sharpness in the morning rather than. being on a heavy carbohydrate intensive. diet exactly w oh they're not sure the. mechanism for that yet that's one of. that's why you got these these Geniuses. studying these things but I think that. there's nothing more important than when. you try something and you actually feel.

a difference and that's not me saying. like oh you know if you're vegan. whatever if you're vegan and you feel. awesome [ __ ] awesome dude I'm not. going to tell you to change I'm not. going to say well you should add this to. you no dude you've you've dialed it in. everyone's different but this for me has. worked wonders well there's also awesome. and then there's better than awesome you. know like some some people say like hey. I've been on this kind of diet and I. feel fantastic so I'm just going to keep. it the way it is well meanwhile if you. added a certain thing to your diet or. added a little bit more vitamin D or.

added a little bit more you might feel. actually better like your idea of what. awesome is I think a lot of times it's. like have you ever have water in your. ear and you think everything's okay like. ah this is how I hear and then you know. like pop it pops and you go oh I could. hear like this like you weren't even. considering that you you were hearing. like [ __ ] that's what cracks me up about. when people talk and by no means am I. some type of psychedelic Pusher or. anything like that but you know when I. first did iasa I it consumed my mind. holy [ __ ] I want to stand on a mountain.

top and tell people about this I want. every one of my friends to know about it. my family I want them to try this I want. them to see what I've seen like I want. them to experience this and then over. time you realize like. oh you listen to people talk like no I. really you know what like life's just so. good right now I don't really need to. change anything like Are you a [ __ ]. finished product you can't improve your. life or Mr Perfect I'm Mr Manhattan I'm. Dr Manhattan yeah like there's no. there's no room for getting better. there's no room for for enjoying life.

more improving whatever you know and. that was just funny to me uh that. Dynamic you know there are a lot of. people that just say to themselves like. I'm comfortable why change yeah well. people uh don't like feeling like [ __ ]. and they don't like feeling like their. house is in disarray and so they get to. a state where they go I'm I'm happy. right now everything's good I'm happy. right now like uh I'm happy being chubby. like I've heard that before there's. nothing wrong with being chubby I'm. happy I'm happy right now with the way I.

am you know some people will convince. themselves all I mean I often times read. things that people write and I go godamn. it I wonder if this person is expressing. themsel honestly or if they're trying to. get other people to be convinced that. they're okay you know how I would lean. towards that yeah how happy are like. I've brought this article up more than. once but I read this article written by. this woman who's 70 years old struggled. with weight her whole life and she was. promoting fat acceptance and that people.

are prejudiced towards people that are. overweight but in fact she's incredibly. healthy and she's so active and she does. all these things she's just always. always been heavy and I'm like see. scientifically that doesn't make any. sense it just doesn't like if you're if. you're eating healthy foods and your. body's healthy you shouldn't be stup. storing that much extra fat it just. doesn't make any sense but she's. promoting it in this article like if you. didn't know any better and just took. this article as like well this is this. one woman's account of her life and by.

her accounts she's incredibly healthy. she's hiking and she's so active and. she's eating healthy but she's just. fat not not really Mak sense doesn't no. something's missing there yeah what is. it well I mean I actually had this as uh. one one of my first first breakthroughs. in my very first ceremony I was. uh I was hearing. people violently puke around me and I.

thought I was like in a war zone and. this is just starting to kick in inside. me I've taken my second cup of iasa and. like it sounds like people are dying and. I realized oh they're puking and then I. thought. oh that's cuz these [ __ ] didn't do. the dieta they didn't eat clean like you. have to eat a certain way prior to it. you know I thought oh I eat clean and I. take care of myself these people don't. take care of themselves and like all the. kind of snowballed into this feeling. that I had about fat people in general. like they didn't you're not taking care.

of yourself what are you doing why would. you do that to yourself why would you do. that to your body you know like it did. I've always been thin and athletic and. it was easy for me to do these things so. when I'm when I'm feeling this and I. just started to notice like holy [ __ ]. why do I feel this way why would damn. this is getting worse and worse and then. I jumped up and grabbed the bucket and. puked my brains out like I'd never puked. before and it came out of me this. feeling this animosity towards people. and I understood right then like they. don't know any better I don't know how.

they got there but I do know that they. don't know any better they don't know. how to get out of that even if they do. know intellectually they have an. internalized it they haven't put it has. been digested right there's plenty of. things that you can take at face value. you hear and it resonates with you and. you're like oh yeah that makes perfect. sense right but you don't assimilate it. you don't put it into action and I think. for that I I don't know [ __ ] maybe every. time their mom and dad fought they took.

him to get ice cream cones at McDonald's. oh it's okay you know come on we'll go. for a car ride it'll be fine here's an. ice cream cone and then now anytime. they're under stress [ __ ] I need ice. cream and they don't even think about it. or maybe they do know and they still say. I don't care I know this ice cream con. is going to make me feel better whatever. it is I don't know that's not my place. to be like hey you fat [ __ ] you you know. like that helped me grow from that and. that was a huge that was like how could. puking be good that puking is amazing. when you're getting rid of something. like that right like you're letting go.

of a thought that you had like this. attachment that you had yeah there I. mean there there's a certain holier than. thou attitude that certain people with. great metabolisms and active Lifestyles. will have towards people that maybe they. just just when they grew up they weren't. LED towards Athletics they maybe they. were bullied maybe they they had poor. diets in the home they didn't know any. better and now here they find themselves. x amount of years later a product to a. whole series of things yeah think of the.

impact it would have you always get. picked last for kickball or some. handball or any of that stupid those. dumb playground games you're always. picked last you don't want to play them. anymore you're not interested in that. yeah you associate them with bad. feelings yeah yeah I was having a. conversation about this with a friend of. mine and she was talking about um like. how uh there's like women that are like. angry feminists that get that that like. truly don't like men they hate men and. they don't like masculinity she was. trying to figure out what that's all.

about and I was like well the parallels. got to be there's certain men that I. know that don't like women they hate. women and one of the reasons why is. because they've been rejected by women. their whole life so they associate women. with a negative feeling they associate. women with rejection they associate. women with uh the women like coldhearted. leaves them goes with another guy. [ __ ] do that to me that [ __ ] well. it's she doesn't owe you she's not. attracted to you like you've got for. whatever reason the universe dealt you.

an extremely shitty deck of cards and. that's just the way it is but so forever. this person that I know that that has. this issue his association with women is. of women they they use him they want. things from him his money they don't. want him and they treat him badly and he. feels like like [ __ ] and hateful whereas. I have friends that are good-looking. guys that for no there's no reason they. were just boring good-look they just got. great bone structure and you know they.

happen to look good and women are. attracted to them and their ideas of. women are totally different their ideas. of women are hey chicks are fun they're. great don't get tied down though bro you. know keep keep it open Move Free you. know like their ideas of women are much. more light and like women are their. they're a gift they're a great thing in. life they're not this evil so this like. this Association can often be correlated. by what kind of a relationship do you.

have with the opposite sex like if. you're a woman and you're overweight and. you're you know you've always been fat. your whole life has been like a series. of drunken moments with men who felt. sick after they were with you and you. were rejected and any man that you were. attracted to had wanted to have nothing. to do with you so your feelings about. men are just. this they're angry these [ __ ] these. Bros these. douchebags not taking into consideration. like well what what is this relationship.

you have with him and what's the root. cause of it some of it is outside of. your if it's just genetics completely. outside of your control there's nothing. you can do about the way your face looks. or how tall you are or how short you are. or how how big your feet are you know. there's nothing you can do about that. but the relationship. between how what you look and how. physically attractive you are sexually. like people's desire to reproduce with. you it really comes down to that in a. lot of ways like what is the.

relationship you have with the opposite. sex because boy when you when you go at. and really pay attention to like. hardcore feminists what you find is a. lot of older successful women and women. that are overweight and not attractive. and you find you know all sorts of. different people in between there but. there's an overwhelming number of people. that have not had good success with the. opposite sex both from women hating men. and from men hating women and it's like.

that's like extremely unfortunate you. know if you look at it that way it's. extremely unfortunate like taking out. gender inequality Financial issues all. sorts of issues that also come with. being a male men's rights Advocate or a. woman's rights Advocate a feminist. there's a there's an an overall attitude. that people have an issue with when it. comes to someone who identifies with one. gender or another gender and despises. the other gender often times it's.

because their associations and. relationships with that gender have been. negative due to the fact that they're. not desired yeah that well it's really. it comes down to them it's what are you. know what what are you doing for. yourself what is your relationship with. that per with the opposite sex certainly. has to do with that but what is your. relationship in life do you have this. assumption that all dudes are dicks and. they all behave the same way and and. that it's it's kind of your mindset can. keep you stuck in that hole just the. same if you're always thinking like this.

is exactly how they are this is this is. exactly it's going to reciprocate itself. over and over and over again so you're. always correct yeah there's that but. then there's also the reality like my. friend who doesn't like when's not my. friend anymore but who doesn't like. women he's an ugly dude he's always. going to be an ugly dude he does he like. porn does he like any what do you mean. does he like he's not no it's not like. doesn't he gets angry he gets angry he's. like he never has like a girlfriend he's. never been married he he's just like.

always like that sounds to me like a guy. who needs to work on himself well he. definitely does but it's also like the. girls that he likes they never really. were into him just just not attractive. it's it's he got a [ __ ] roll of the dice. yeah his rle of the dice. sucks I don't know where I'm going with. this but but what I'm trying to say is. I'm not trying to say anything but if I. was trying to say anything I would try. to say like there's there's a lot of. complex issues that are going on with. how people feel both about themselves.

and how they feel about other people and. oftentimes what they blame other people. for is really some [ __ ] that's going on. with them like they find enemies out. there external enemies to distract. themselves from their internal problems. and failures and shortcomings big time. like you find that a lot with haters I'm. sure you found that when you've read. like horrible [ __ ] that people write. about you online like after fights like. dude I I mean look the kind of hate that.

is available to Fighters is some of the. most [ __ ] vicious and personal and. emotional hate the people that go after. them like quote unquote fans yeah every. one of them's a loser every one of them. every one of them every [ __ ] evil. nasty douchebag that seeks you out to. say mean [ __ ] to you after a loss and. tweets at you you know and say I mean. I've seen some horrific [ __ ] that that. guys write two fighters directly after a.

loss both on Facebook and on Instagram. Twitter everything those people are all. unsuccessful they're all failures all of. them that's the only reason why they. would do that it's one thing to say man. you know that [ __ ] guy he got killed. or man you know that guy got tapped. quick or how good is this guy man I. can't believe he ran through that guy. like this those are like almost uh. analytical discussions that you have. with people where things happen and you. didn't see it coming like okay Ryan. Bader versus Rumble Johnson like that.

fight without saying anything horrible. about Ryan Bader you'd go [ __ ] man. Rumble Johnson Jesus Christ you just ran. him over man [ __ ] who can take that. guy's shots and you that's like a a non-. assholish way of approaching it but good. Lord I read some [ __ ] online that people. tweeted to him to Bader and like you. [ __ ] you should be in a jail. somewhere you're a monster like you're. you're looking at this guy like here's a. downed wounded thing and I'm GNA just. piss on him I'm gonna find a spot a soft.

spot and I'm GNA jab him with sticks I'm. GNA see if I can [ __ ] with his head you. know and anybody who does that those. people that are doing that those haters. they're all losers it's the saddest. thing about it it's like they're they're. looking at this one person this one. thing this this object that they can. attack and they're externalizing all the. issues they have with themselves the the. imbalances they have and this new. ability that we have to reach people and. communicate with people that really.

don't want to have anything to do with. you you know in the real world Ryan B. doesn't give a [ __ ] about this guy's. opinion he doesn't know him and in the. real world nobody's saying [ __ ] to his. face like oh my God I think that's Ryan. Bader and they run up to him and just. blow him right oh you're so [ __ ]. awesome you know like seriously same. exact guy same exact guy boy some. hateful people out there man I I know so. many fighters just don't go on social. media now because of it you know you. think Fighters are tough they should. [ __ ] toughen up. like okay maybe you're just a [ __ ] maybe.

it's not Fighters are tough and they. should just toughen up maybe it's like. what you're doing you're you're being. shitty to someone you don't even. know again where am I going with this I. don't know I completely agree I even. when I when we forget who it was green. flower media did a thing on me talking. about canab and and CBD and how many. guys in the sport use and just Ian not. naming names and Jose coning it but. talking about like yeah a lot of a smoke. pot like it helps us sleep at night it. helps turn off our brain when we're.

overthinking [ __ ] and you got something. big coming up um more than obviously now. with usada and things like that there's. a lot less but back in the day yeah. [ __ ] there was a lot of us you but. even with usada out of competition you. you you can smoke pot and in competition. like you can smoke pot up until like the. week of the fight and still this is good. news for me to tell to tell people yeah. but yeah we did that video and then sure. enough like it I didn't know it was. going to get decent not that it went big.

but BJ pen.com ran it and it made it. bigger than it was and of course and the. bottom of the video everyone's comments. I got like two or three comments like oh. no this is MMA. site oh no it didn't help him when Jimmy. manua P smashed his face in did he he. wasn't smoked then you know it's like oh. God like how does this have anything to. do with with what we're talking about. here you know it's nothing to do with. anything but it's funny it's like oh let. me allow me to uh allow me to knock you.

down here a couple a couple pegs while. while we're talking you know well. there's also people that don't recognize. what they're doing and they just they're. just talking you know they're just. making noises and they're not even. they're not even evil they just don't. realize what they're saying is hurtful. or stupid or idiotic because they've. been given this access to people that's. not unprecedented there's no training. for this like no no one had anything. like social media in our parents' days. it just didn't exist so they never. taught us about it a weird thing.

thinking about having kids like I look. at Bear now and I'm like [ __ ] dude we we. grew up when you had wired telephones. and then we saw giant Zack Morris cell. phones come into play and we had this. the car phone and like things like that. you know and then just this Evolution. over time like they're born they not. knowing a world without internet without. instant access you our grandparents the. same thing they were like I remember. when you had to take a boat to get here. from Europe and then you know we grew up. in a much more techn technologically.

advanced era but our kids are going to. grow up in an era that's mindblowing to. us but their kids are going to grow up. in an era of virtual reality that makes. this look like a joke it makes our video. games look stupid you know yeah my dad's. always bragging about how awesome Mafia. 3 was listen you know sit in front of a. box like I'm in the [ __ ] Star Trek. room surrounded by Killers right now. yeah we're probably going to go to. places just like those old. Schwarzenegger movies or any of those. movies you're going to probably go to a.

place you're going to lie down they're. going to clamp some [ __ ] down on the. side of your head and you go are you. ready Mr Kingsbury uh give me the thumbs. up if you're ready to launch and you. give the thumbs up and you're in the. Avatar world and you're riding a [ __ ]. Dragon you know I mean that's going to. happen inside of the next 100 years it's. 100% going to happen it's just a matter. of time if they keep going we don't blow. ourselves up we don't get hit by an. asteroid they're going to come up with. artificial reality that's. indistinguishable from this reality and.

all of our entertainment is going to be. a joke like why would you actually jump. out of a plane and go skydiving when you. can get the skydiving experience with. this thing on your head it's going to. make you feel like you did that was that. movie. uh Total Recall Strange Days oh yeah. yeah that's right right you could vide. and they had like snuff videos where a. guy would actually kill somebody and you. felt what he felt when he killed another. person like you felt all the. neurotransmitters everything was going. through your brain that heart rcing.

feeling of actually ending someone's. life and you know that was the illegal. portion of it then they had the legal. portion would be like sex with your. loved one or whatever those kind of. things but you could actually tap into. the consciousness of someone's memory as. long as that was recorded I think that's. going to happen I think it's definitely. going to happen it's just a matter of. time if they keep going it's a matter of. one invention and one Discovery makes. way for another invention and another.

Discovery they Compound on each other. they build on each other and next thing. you know reality is unrecognizable like. the reality that we experience today you. know we're talking about these primitive. diets Primal existence and you know how. our bodies the idea behind all of this. is obviously that our bodies. it takes thousands of years they say. about 10,000 years for your genes to. totally change and adapt to new diet new. environment new lifestyle and so we're. dealing with bodies that are primarily.

adjusted to a hunter gatherer lifestyle. and all this other stuff that we've. added into it over the last 10 20,000. years or whatever agriculture grains uh. growing different foods you could you. know you keep them in storage bins and. things like that like grain silos that's. all fairly recent just it's and you know. yes you can live like that for sure yeah. grains are yeah you can eat it so but. what is your body like optimized for. what does what does your body exist with. the the least amount of hiccups well.

it's probably the stuff that's like. super on on like clean and normal like. fish vegetables chicken meat things. along those lines your body knows the. stuff that we haven't [ __ ] with not. farm raised this and that not you know. no farm raised fish yeah eating. genetically modified soybeans and. whatever you they're just what's the. most realist food we can put in our body. well you you you probably go camping and. [ __ ] too right do you hell yeah yeah you. know that feeling that you get when. you're out in the woods when you don't. you don't have any cell phone signal.

with a gang of. mushrooms that too well that's that's. extreme but just even being alone like. you hear. the nothing you hear nothing you hear. the real nothing the real nothing of the. woods it's almost like scary because you. you realize like this Forest doesn't. give a [ __ ] about me if a tree falls in. your head and you die right there the. forest doesn't skip a beat the squirrels. and the Chipmunks keep running around. the birds keep flying the deer keep.

running it's all the same it literally. does not matter it doesn't it's been. like this before you it will be like. this unless we [ __ ] it up it'll be like. this after you this is just the way even. if we [ __ ] it up it'll go back to that. at some point or something different. it'll become something different some. some new form of nature but you go from. that to like cities and cities are this. bizarre strange different kind of life. like I was in Manhattan last weekend. it's [ __ ] awesome it's awesome to. visit you go there you're like you're. going from one place to another in this.

restaurant that building and look at. this View and holy [ __ ] and get on the. subway and you're [ __ ] Cruising along. under the buildings and it's awesome but. it's awesome in a completely different. way it's awesome in this new way this. new bizarre way that we're sort of. adapting to you know and this new way is. available to us and wasn't available to. people 10,000 years ago this is like a a. mind blower if you took someone from. 10,000 years ago and brought him to. Manhattan and just put him in like the.

72nd floor of one of those apartment. buildings with a crazy View and just. look out look out at this city be like. what in the [ __ ] am I seeing you know. like you've been to Vegas you ever been. like the top of uh the manderlay bay. that bar that's up there that has the. crazy view in the glass floor oh yeah. [ __ ] you just look out at the top of. that building and you're like God this. is insane this is like some Blade Runner. [ __ ]. yeah we're experiencing something that.

no no culture's ever experienced we're. experiencing something that no. generation's ever experienced this the. technological Heights that we're living. in and this ain't [ __ ] compared to what. our kids are going to experience well. hopefully there are intelligent people. like Marx Assan and other guys that. continue to push the envelope to. reconnect you like there is a reason. that we feel amazing at the beach not. everyone has access to the beach but. there's a reason we feel amazing at the. beach and scientifically they're showing. now with negative ions and energ their.

energy of the earth like it it has an. impact on how we feel the beach does the. ocean does for sure the wind coming off. the ocean does so even if you were on a. boat out of over the water you're going. to feel better just from doing that what. does it do like what specifically does. does it do to. you from what I read and I understand. there are an abundance of negative ions. so from an electrical standpoint you're. talking again about the human energy. field and and auras and woo woo [ __ ]. chakra chakras bro feel my chakra you're.

just going to feel more alive like every. every part of you I I Can't Describe. like from a feeling standpoint everyone. has their experiences at the ocean but. from an electrical standpoint you would. say like you are you're clearing out. blockages from your Chi from a Chinese. medic standpoint from uh Kundalini and. yoga standpoint you're going to clear. out blockages the same way and you're. just what are those blockages are is is. there really a blockage or are you just. experiencing energy from the ocean and.

it it feels good maybe both maybe there. is no blockage but I'm willing to bet. from somebody who sits too long or has. stress you know and different things. like that like there very much can be a. physical attachment to emotion and if. you've ever had like body work done and. somebody you have a you know somebody's. working through a notot and you all of a. sudden start thinking of this thing. that's been bothering you in your head. relationship whatever there is physical. attachments to mental and emotional. things that go on in your in your head.

so so when you get a massage and like. they have like a knot and they work. through it you think there's like. emotions tied up in that knot not always. but sometimes really yeah sure how's. that work I don't know how it works I. don't know why it would I don't know why. it would manifest there I don't know why. we have an electrical. field we do I don't believe that there's. emotions tied up in knots in your body I. think when you get rid of those knots it. relaxes you and that helps you deal with.

emotions better okay maybe I went down. the wrong path there does that make. sense just say yes I agree with that. from a feel-good standpoint feeling. better at the ocean might just be the. view but from an electrical standpoint. there are and this goes back to the. studies done at UCLA there very much is. an electrical standpoint that that that. changes from the ionic energy coming. from the waves coming from the water. coming from the wind that's above the. water right because like yoga talk. they'll say [ __ ] to you like this hip. opener is going to make you feel feel.

better about your childhood it's going. to open up emotional blockages and. you're like um pretty sure we're just. stretching yeah well that's that's. talking about root chakra and exactly. how the different chakras work what they. correlate to and things like that I. don't know. necessarily look in a Visionary State I. can see energy I don't see colors I. don't see like oh here's my heart chakra. anything like that but I have seen trees. communicate to one another like. vibrations coming from the top Treetops. as they were talking to one another what. did like what does it look like um like.

ripples in water wow but it's the air. that's Rippling and you could see like. perfect circles coming from the tops of. the Treetops there was something I. tweeted the other day they um they found. that Venus fly traps do calculations. they. count like for some from some study they. figured out some uh some method of. measuring the fact that they actually. count things they're they're doing.

calculations like the idea that they're. not smart there there is an intelligence. in Plants that's just that's where I. laugh at the argument from vegans on. from from a Consciousness standpoint. whatever spark we have call it Soul Call. It Whatever plants have it whatever. whatever anim us and gives. us us it's in them too yeah for sure for. sure is it's just it's they don't they. can't communicate in a way that we can. clearly understand they don't bark at us. they don't look at us with sad puppy dog.

eyes but there's something alive in them. some strange way that they communicate. and that they absorb energy and life and. that you get that from them I mean life. eats life but that said I know many. people that have had uh Visionary. experiences and became vegan afterwards. yeah that's actually. a that's actually really common. especially in people that that um do. multiple iasa ceremonies and I had a. vision my only Vision I've ever had a. bear is I had a vision of seeing a panda.

bear eat bamboo and then I saw a. Blackberry eating berries and I was like. oh [ __ ] am I going to be vegan and then. I saw a Grizzly snatching salmon out and. I was like Oh and it was just uh eat the. natural whatever it is there's no right. or wrong but eat take from take from me. this was Mother Earth talking to me take. from me yeah so that's what it was it. wasn't this is right that's wrong every. animal eats different things you know. there's always these I CL made fun of. Aaron Simpson for I think he posted a.

giant gorilla and he like not enough. protein in my diet bro you know it's. like this 800 lb gorilla you know and. it's like hey look there's no there's no. right or wrong here like you're not. going to go to the to the lion and say. like oh you're doing this all wrong lion. here eat some grass instead like come on. no it's fine as long as it's from nature. whether provides take it gorilla is a. totally different animal it's not a. person like you know they have cell even. from a chemical standpoint they're going. to break down things we can't break down.

without digestive enzymes added to our. diet so but people love that argument. look how strong gorillas are bro and. they just eat roots and [ __ ] why don't. you go pull [ __ ] out of a swamp and eat. the stem like they chew on stems what. else do they do they also have one-inch. dicks how about that. there's a lot of bad things about being. a. gorilla I don't know I just think that. um factory farming is something that. people recognize a lot when they have. psychedelic experiences like the. connection between the suffering of.

their food and that's real I've had. multiple visions of that yeah for sure. that's as real as it gets man multiple. and that's not fun it's not like you. watch that and you're like oh like. you're watching a movie it's not like. watching the cove and then watching The. Cove is hard enough but I mean you. experience it you feel what it's like. you embody that Consciousness yeah and. you know they know they're [ __ ] aware. they're not just these dumb things like. my go around and E some whatever they. provide for me no you know like my. buddy's on The Chopping Block like I'm.

stuck here shoulder-to-shoulder like you. feel you can feel that and tap into that. and I don't know how that's going to. stop that that seems to be ingrained in. our idea of feeding cities it seems like. the only way they can produce is enough. meat to feed all these [ __ ] people in. these cities the way they're doing it. now is to continue this factory farming. method it's just it's horrific it the. movie food ink awesome documentary yeah.

and the end is hey like yeah it's [ __ ]. what do we do what do we do now you do. vote with your dollar so every time you. say uh I can't even taste the difference. between free range eggs and these caged. eggs I'm going to save a few bucks you. vote with your dollar yeah like if you. spend a little extra you're going to. feel better from it but also you're. going to help change the culture and. they show Walmart show having a. organic uh yogurt or something on the. shelves just because there's demand. there I mean if you go into Costco here.

in California they have all kinds of. organic [ __ ] in Costco and mass-produced. wides scale for cheap because there's a. demand for it you go there in Arizona or. NADA maybe not the same it's you know. like Whole Foods is going to have Whole. Foods but from from Giant companies like. that they're listening and it's just a. matter of money if people are willing to. spend it and this is what they want. they're going to supply it period yeah. but there's also those a ag gag laws. that keep people from filming factory.

farms where they you know they pack. these chickens into these horrible. living conditions and you can't film it. if you film it you can get in deep. trouble like they did a drone video uh. uh pig farm yeah the pig farm in. Carolina that was a mind [ __ ] nasty. and they showed. sh they had next and they interview the. the people that are living by there and. they just smell it constantly this funk. death just death and methane I mean the. the that River of piss and [ __ ] that.

comes out of the bottom of that place. and settles into that little Lake that. they had in front of that's not normal. piss and [ __ ] that is the worst most. diseased you know piss and [ __ ] that's. imagine just living there like working. there rather like someone who works in. there like the the sadness you feel. every day and the smells that you take. in through your nose every day Peta was. showing a video probably one of the. worst that I actually had the balls to. watch of how fogra is made in France you. ever seen this yeah I have seen it just. brutal like they people are working.

there and they're tossing in the chicks. that's their job throw them in the meat. grinder oh so they have humans that. actually have to be a part of that. process so the ones that they don't that. they don't want turn into like what is. it males or something like they get rid. of males they get rid of the female some. one or the other but it's yeah the fog. Gua you know what's interesting about. fog Gua is they actually gravitate. towards that feeder it's really strange. I had a farmer explained it to me before. like they actually want to be fed like. they go to that feeder and you can grab. them and stick it in their mouth and we.

it looks awful when they force feed them. pump them up yeah they force feed them. with grain they just pour it down their. throat but apparently it's not that bad. for them it just it's perception as as. far as like we're fattening them up for. Slaughter and what if that was you and. they put your mouth around this metal. pipe and well it's quality of life you. know but seeing these guys go through. the meat grinder and some of them don't. die the grinding up of the chicks they. get ground up and some of them come out. the other side still alive yeah shaking. that's not fog Gua though they do that.

with a lot of roosters that's just a a. fact they just grind him up yeah it's a. [ __ ] deal it's a [ __ ] deal you know I. was on the highway once and I passed. this truck and it was stuffed with. chickens it was just Madness I was. looking at this truck it was like you. know there was some uh open openings. where the chickens could breathe like. some small holes in the sides of the. truck and you're just realizing this is. like a a thing that's packed with life. as being treated like a commodity like. stacked rocks you know it's bizarre it's.

bizarre to see a truck just driving down. the road just just stacked bottom to top. with living things that are just going. to get either ground up or chopped up or. you know doesn't matter going off to. death well it's what happened when we. made these City things this is also. something that didn't exist 10 20,000. years ago when they had any kind of. Agriculture back then you grew some. livestock you killed those animals you. knew where they lived you knew what they.

ate or you knew the guy who raised them. and it was real simple and then. somewhere along the line someone said we. need like a Costco of farming we need to. get a big place and stuff everything in. there and close it to the general public. so nobody could see and dab these. [ __ ] with needles and fill them up. with antibiotics so they don't get sick. from all this crazy food we're giving. them and boy the change from that like. people are much more aware now and. they're asking for Freer range food and.

antibiotic free food and you know. grassfed meats and things along those. lines but most people can't afford it a. lot of people can't afford it is a. difference between I think the C I spend. a [ __ ] ton of money on that I really do. a lot of money goes there I think. knowing where to get your food from like. there's certain things you got to go. like okay hey I can't afford to this day. I don't buy grass-fed filet minan it's. $25 a pound but I can afford grass-fed. burger right and freeer range chicken.

they sell free range chicken at free. range organic chicken at Costco now so I. can get it for 3.99 a pound what does. that mean though when they say free. range organic are they like on a field. they're allowed to go around now there's. varying levels of that obviously um and. certainly on a mass scale you're. probably it'sa not going to be the same. as Farmer John down the street who's. doing it all natural yeah uh organic is. still going to be organic feed you know. they can't do any antibiotics and they. can't feed them GMO food from what my. understanding is well what's interesting.

to me is that we're having these. conversations now very frequently. there's a lot of these documentaries. whether it's food ink or King corn or. cowspiracy there's a bunch of these. documentaries where people are examining. how food is made and prepared and where. it's coming from and how they're growing. it and and we're more aware it now than. ever before so some people at least some. people there's a movement to make more. conscious choices and this wasn't around. when our parents were around but I don't. think factory farming was around when. they were around either there's also the.

difference in the amount of people I. mean I've read something about the 1970s. if there was like a 100 million plus. less people in America in the 1970s I. mean that's inside my life 100 million. plus more people just here in the United. States go research that Jamie pull that. up Jamie's a wizard with this [ __ ] 1970. 1970 was around 203 million yeah so it's. a 100 million difference that's crazy.

boy do we flect the [ __ ] we just love. making babies you know baby boomers all. the Baby Boomers kids having kids you're. a part of the problem now too pal me too. yeah well the good news is the the good. news is we we were like oh you know. three four who knows right then you do. that first 6 months and you're like he. might be an only. child what the [ __ ] did we do what do we. get ourselves into I'm tell we were. talking about this before the podcast. once they start talking man it's a. totally different world it gets it it.

all gets way better it gets way more. easy but when they start talking they. become like your little friends you know. like it's it becomes like I can't wait. to see my kids like after this podcast. I'm going to go hang out with them and. it becomes amazing they run and they hug. you and they talk to you about school. and my daughter had this thing today at. school she had this little um um you. know like what do they call them uh I. want to say a recital assembly thank you. very much Jamie they had a little. assembly and all the kids do their. little thing and she had this big thing.

that she was like really proud of. because she had to announce something. and and say uh part of this little thing. that they were going to do part of the. song they doing a song about uh. different languages and speaking French. and speaking Spanish and and so she she. has to go up and do this little thing. it's just like this little proud moment. and afterwards like she's like beaming. and she's so happy she's five you know. and she runs up to me and jumps in my. arms and gives me this big hug the love. that you get from that the feeling that. you get of of warmth and of love and of. connection with this little tiny. beautiful human boy it's like nothing.

else like it and then you also recognize. this was one of the big ones for me as I. as my children got older and I started. putting it all s sort of trying at least. to put the pieces of it all together I. started looking at people like they're. babies like oh this [ __ ] up dude who's. all angry at the world and just. devastated and just emotionally a wreck. that was a baby that was a baby that. just didn't get the love that he needed. or a baby that was abused or a baby that.

was neglected or a baby that was. rejected like whatever it was this. [ __ ] up person now in my mind became a. baby like crazy people like I'd see a. girl you know on top of a bar with her. [ __ ] top off [ __ ] yeah. wo that's a baby that's a baby that. became that any [ __ ] guy you know is. [ __ ] screaming at people a traffic. and pointing out [ __ ] your I'll follow. you to your [ __ ] house that's a baby. that's a baby that became this [ __ ].

like it's it's just this developmental. process that goes off the rails and into. the forest and it's [ __ ] up and to get. it back on track is insanely difficult. insanely and the work that's required. most people are not willing to do DMT. most people are not willing to you know. to change their diet and to take yoga. every morning and to [ __ ] get up. early and meditate for 20 minutes every. day to try to be mindful most people are.

just acting on momentum just scrambling. and yeah how can I distract myself what. can I put in front of my face that'll. make me think of something else than. what I have to deal with that's why I. like talking to people like you cuz I. know that you're this on this constant. search for Improvement and this constant. search for growth and I think that. talking to people like you and talking. to people that are filling themselves. with knowledge and and constantly trying. to uh evaluate their perspective and. maybe enhance their perspective that's. inspiring and and it it also it gives.

fuel to other people that want to do the. same you know like people will hear this. podcast and they'll go [ __ ] man I want. to try some of that [ __ ] that Kyle. Kingsbury tried maybe I want to do iasa. maybe I want to read some of the books. that he read Maybe I want to try some of. the meditation techniques he's tried. maybe I want to do this maybe I want to. do that and I think in doing that like. in like one person like you who's. seeking these things you can start like. this Cascade you start this this effect.

you started the Cascade I mean it have. to I've listened to so many podcasts. where I was like [ __ ] that guy all right. let me do that you I mean even just Wim. Hoff just in that eight weeks I heard. him I don't know maybe a couple weeks. after he was on I was doing breath work. at the beach and my buddy was like man. he look well we also had a little uh. laser disc we we'll say uh we watched a. laser. disc you watch the laser disc how do I. put this in.

uh I'm trying to figure out can we read. between the lines here syllables. syllables laser oh LS laser disc there. you go why don't just say LSD you're. talking about mushrooms and IAS like. this other [ __ ] we got to keep under. wraps all right that's true laser disc I. get it I didn't understand that that's. something I've never done see done the L. yeah. well people keep telling me some woman. was yelling at me at a show the other. night got to do.

LSD I think you would love it do. LSD W I was listening to you and redband. talk about this and mesculin and things. like that and pey and I was like man I. can't believe with having tried other. things that you didn't try that yeah. there's a bunch of [ __ ] I haven't tried. I heard um. Jim fatan who wrote the Psychedelic. explorers guide I heard him on Ferris. his podcast got his book read it and. then I saw that Maps was doing the. multi-disciplinary association of. psychedelic studies was doing a. presentation in paloalto down the street. from me and Rick doblin the head of maps.

was going to be there presenting with. Jim fatan I was like oh this is amazing. I got to go and once you've had a. breakthrough psychedelic experience it's. it's amazing it can be life-changing or. it can [ __ ] your mind up whatever you. can take that for what it is a large. portion of his book was on micro doing. and in micro doing they were talking. about taking a. Sub sub perceptual breakthrough level so. meaning like I don't see [ __ ] I just. feel and think differently right and he.

said that's really the future of. psychedelic research and that's exactly. what Hoffman was doing till he died at. 102 years old the guy who developed. LSD um so we went and I I listen to. these guys speak and since then I have. tried micro doing with LSD and it is. phenomenal like it's almost like a smart. drug in itself but you feel good you. have energy you can see why people might. do it at a festival or a concert. everything sounds a little more clear. Like Music sounds better if I could I.

could see myself running on it like you. really can you can you can still. interact I could talk to Cops on it like. you're fine to communicate and to be but. you do think differently you are. connected in a different way that's all. the rage in Silicone Valley yeah yeah. yeah exactly and I was I thought of you. right when I was here I was like oh man. oh man not down with the mcin not down. with the LSD huh not that I'm not down. the problem with acid is the people that. want to do acid with you you don't want. to do acid with them you're like yeah I.

gotta go dude it's all these weird. people that are pushing it and they want. to like Duncan is the only guy that I. know that gets real acid and we've sort. of made a loose commitment to me and him. getting together and doing it one day I. want to hear about that that's going to. be awesome sure I'll definitely talk. about it but um. the the the thing that I've been really. into that I get these big. breakthrough um objective moments. introspective moments is edible pot and. PSY and um um flotation flotation.

Chambers there's something about sensory. deprivation with the edible pot it. creates this. bizarre sort of um hallucinogenic State. Visionary State that's very unusual very. from a Visionary standpoint do you when. you see obviously you're in pitch black. so anything you see in your mind's eye. is what you're seeing would you say you. see like more the sacred geometry or the. Kaleidoscope of shapes and things that. you do from DMT or do you just see like.

a memory or you relive something or. maybe you see something from that's been. on your mind and you live that moment. for a second and then pull back out of. it well that's one of the fascinating. things about it is the experience is. incredibly flexible whereas like the. experience of DMT although it varies. it's also very DMT like when you do DMT. you're. like reality dissolves and you're there. like the last one that I had was very. strange like there was these gestur that.

were giving me the finger they kept. giving me the finger I'm like what is. this about and then I was trying to. figure out like what are they trying to. tell me and one of the things they were. trying to tell me is uh it was almost. like a reaction to not not. worrying what other people think of you. or not worrying about people [ __ ]. with you or not it was almost like what. do you care what do you care I'm doing. this to you too what do you care what do. you care like why why you tripping about. this and then I kind of got it in the.

trip and then and then they're like. shaking their head yes yeah and there's. this weird fractal thing that's. constantly going on but every time I do. it it seems like these lessons that are. wrapped up up in these Visions with. communicating entities whatever the [ __ ]. they are whether they're figments of. your imagination or whether they're real. there's always lessons in there and. these lessons are always pertaining to. either a personal hiccup that I got. going on or something that I'm.

struggling with or trying to overcome or. something that I'm constantly focusing. on and trying to understand better so. it's like let me help you out there dude. [ __ ] you and you like like these. gestures were all going [ __ ] you I was. like why are they going [ __ ] you I was. trying to figure out what it is it's. like it's almost uh an an inoculation to. hostility like they're like letting you. like what why you even taking this in. like you know what why why you even. concentrating on that this is pointless. there's so much more and then when you.

get past that level of the. experience it blossoms into some new. level of the experience so the DMT state. is very DMT like but the Cannabis the. edible cannabis the the the 11 hydroxy. metabolite state you get from edible. cannabis which is dose perd dose five. times more psychoactive than THC that's. why people when they eat it they trip. out they go oh my god I think I'm I'm. somebody laced it with something no it's. very much like an intense psychedelic.

when you eat it that's why you got to be. careful and not eat too much like people. that [ __ ] freak out and have panic. attacks it's because it's strong as [ __ ]. when you eat it but in the. tank sometimes I go on these Journeys. that I like I'm in the for forest and I. can hear other languages and I. understand them and I don't know what. the [ __ ] they are and sometimes I'm a. part of a like a ball of yarn that the. universe is made out of and each. individual fiber that's in this gigantic.

strand that's a part of this wrapped up. ball of yarn is all the individual atoms. that make up being a person or a tree or. a book or a rock and all these different. things are intertwined and it shows you. the fractal nature of reality from the. lowest subatomic particle to the the. biggest planet in the solar system to. the biggest galaxy in the universe and. it just goes out there in this very. strange and humbling and bizarre like a.

vulnerable like vulnerability inducing. State and then it'll go from that to. cartoons [ __ ] like it'll go like neon. cartoons banging each other and. producing a bunch of other neon cartoons. you had me at cartoon [ __ ] dude just. not just cartoons [ __ ] but they're. like neon they're like made out of like. neon lights and they're banging each. other and they're they're becoming other. ones that having that goddamn thing in. my basement is a blessing and a curse at. the same time because uh it's it's a.

blessing and that it's great that I can. go in there anytime I want but sometimes. one crazy trip will just leave me like. baffled for. days but the relaxation aspect of it too. sometime sometimes I'll go in there on. the gch and just chill out and just. float and I get out of there man I feel. good like I I'll be in there and while. I'm in there floating I'll like push. down my hips and my back will go pop pop. like everything's like loosening up. because of all the all the Epsom salts.

in it has magnesium and then magnesium. is great for your body it's one of the. best ways to absorb magnesium is through. the skin that's why an Epsom Sal bath is. so good for your muscles and there's but. no Epsom Sal bath can [ __ ] with the tank. not even close that th000 pounds of salt. in there no massage can [ __ ] with the. tank like I've had amazing massages but. when you come out of the tank you do. feel like you're floating for hours. after you just feel high so you've been. in the tank you just haven't been in the. tank on anything I haven't done anything.

in the tank not yet and that's like uh. smoke a little just a little I'd rather. have I'd rather have a good now there's. places available in the Bay Area see. back in the day there was a lady in Las. gados that wasn't far from me and she. sponsored me for fight camps so I would. go in once a week or twice a week. leading up to a fight oh really. interesting and it was amazing it was a. great like that really got me into. flotation and then uh she ended up. moving down to Santa Cruz which is a. little hike for me so I I've been to. Oakland different places they have them.

set up now and um there's a couple. places that allow the midnight run so. you can go in at midnight and stay. overnight so you do an overnight float. all the way until 6:00 a.m. or 8: a.m. yeah and someone's in there with you oh. they have someone working there but. you're you know you can go in there and. just sleep in it basically so Fu crazy. hippies I think they know what's up I. think they know what time it is oh yeah. so it's just a matter of what um you. know what do I that's why I was like I. was curious I wanted to ask you about.

that like what do you what when you say. Visionary State what are you getting. from that well when you say like oh. sometimes I'm in the woods or this yeah. that's all the answer that I need that's. for sure going to happen I've done. mushrooms in them and that's pretty. intense too how many grams not that many. like three okay see I I found like I. mean that's a lot but not like yeah yeah. I feel like between a a one gr. to four gram. dose I get a lot of feeling from it but.

I don't necessarily get to a Visionary. state but five grams but do you do it in. silent Darkness like where do you where. are you doing. it yeah I guess it would be it would be. different there the Visionary state to. me occurs with the eyes closed that's. where the real Visions come and most of. the time when people are doing it. they're out in nature and like the first. time I ever did mushrooms we did it like. in the woods and was beautiful man it. felt it felt like the the vibrations of. the earth as if it was like loving you. and breathing and like like it was a you.

you felt like connected to it in a way. that I never felt before but there was. no not much Visions because you're out. there I mean it seemed like alive and. everything seemed stange it was kind of. pixelated and everything sort of had. like uh like a geometric pattern to it. in a weird way that you never. experienced Tasha and I did have had him. at the beach and we had a monster dose. one time after iasa has really kind of. improved other psychedelic experiences. for both of us you can let go yeah like.

some of those lessons of not trying to. control it you know just going with the. flow and and um and then also from a. stomach standpoint like a lot of people. that eat mushrooms it [ __ ] their. stomach up it used to [ __ ] my stomach up. but after you've purged from Iowaska. like it's nothing for me to have a bunch. of mushrooms in my stomach it's never. did that to me to my stomach I don't. know why it's hit and miss it really is. it's I think it's very personal deal but. uh we had seven grams each on the beach. and that's the most we've ever taken and. I went when I was face up she's 110 lbs.

too so she's the real trooper but when I. was face up you could see things that I. wouldn't normally see like like a. seagull in a V formation I could see. like laser beams connecting their wings. and then it was like fractal like you. would from a DMT trip but every color of. the light spectrum was connecting their. wings as they flowed through air and. then the sound of the ocean is different. but then when I went face down and. buried my face in the sand then I had.

complete Visionary State just like DMT. or or iasa even yeah I would imagine and. probably last a long ass time too long. time long day that was a long day at the. beach I bet it's probably a couple solid. hours of Visions then right with that. kind of dose yeah on and off there were. some yeah I kept seeing initially I kept. seeing uh like this like a group of. people like kind of eyeballing us and. then I was thinking like are they going. to take our [ __ ] like are they going to. try to steal or going have to fight.

someone like this doesn't this is weird. this is a place not a lot of people go. to and I kept seeing that and then I. like take a deep breath. like and TSH could like feel me you know. feel like my energy she could feel. what's going on she's like are you okay. like H is somebody going to come she. like no what are you what are you. talking about she's like playing with. [ __ ] sea turtle bugs [ __ ] whatever. you know like she's just she's in heaven. you know she's looking over at me and I. like am I okay she's like seriously. you're fine don't don't worry you're. fine I was like okay and I put my head.

back down and I kept seeing then like. this young kid kind of comes through the. crowd like he's going to challenge me. and he walks down I'm like oh [ __ ] I got. to defend us I got to fight and I know. how [ __ ] up I am I can't believe I got. to defend myself and I'm like it's. playing out in my mind all the ways that. I'm gonna have to fight this guy and I. realize right then like I stand up open. my eyes like oh [ __ ] it's just a vision. and I was like a heart's racing I'm like. why would I think that and then I. realized every [ __ ] day of my life. since I was a little kid I play that out.

anytime someone gives me a dirty look or. says like it it's from whatever being. picked on as a kid bullied that kind of. [ __ ] like I always play that out like. how I am I going to have to fight this. guy am I going to have to [ __ ] defend. myself how's it going to play out oh. he's he's got a long [ __ ] neck I'm. going to take his back and choke him out. or he's whatever you know what I'm. saying but but it just it showed me how. silly this dumbass mind game that I. would play and I would go down the. rabbit hole on a [ __ ] daily basis. sometimes like like just playing into.

this thought of negativity that had no. space for me and it does me no good to. play that out like well that's fine. because then I'll do this no no no no. none of that [ __ ] I'm wasting time and. I'm becoming emotionally attached to. those thoughts yeah it's not just oh I'm. thinking about this I'm feeling like I'm. going to fight right now that [ __ ] you. up that turns you into not your best. version of yourself so that vision from. mushrooms was just a [ __ ] GameChanger. it doesn't stop me from having those. thoughts but it allows me to catch.

myself I'm aware of it you know yeah the. pattern still exists you just don't. entertain it anymore I don't entertain. it I can see it and let it go like when. they talk about meditating oh if you. have a thought just recognize the. thought and let it go that's easier said. than done now I've had time to digest. and assimilate that and especially. bouncing or bartending the guy being a. dick or whatever it's very easy much. easier for me to be like I don't have to. entertain the guy swings at me then it. happens that's worry about right you're. not going to not know when it's getting. hly but there's no need like sometimes. things I always say that about cops like.

sometimes I bet certain people whether. it's the people that deal with the cops. or certain people that are cops things. happen that don't need to happen because. people have these ideas or have these. patterns patterns that are playing on in. their head and for a cop I would imagine. it's got to be incredibly difficult. because you're dealing with all these. people that are constantly breaking laws. and violating things and you're supposed. to enforce them and you're constantly. worried about getting shot and getting. home to your family you're constantly. worried about pulling some guy over and.

he's got [ __ ] 20 pounds of Coke in. the back and a machine gun in his front. seat you don't know cuz his windows are. tinted and you're like sir roll down. your window and you got your hand on. your gun like what the [ __ ] am I getting. into here and then these patterns that. people have whether it's as a police off. officer as a person getting pulled over. by a comps they can change the way you. interact with people and change the. circumstances of the day and change turn. a tragedy into a nothing or a nothing. into a tragedy yeah that's the lens. that's the filter you see through yeah. all your interactions come out of that.

patterns man and sometimes the beautiful. thing about psychedelics is that it. allows you to get outside of you and. look at the Ridiculousness of you that's. one of the biggest yeah that's ever when. you talk about change and transformation. and things like that uh that's been my. biggest Catalyst in seeing the way I. behave and that doesn't mean that I'm Mr. Perfect and I don't get angry or I'm not. a like yeah no sleep first six months. with a child we've we' Tasha and I have.

had you know that's that anybody who's. had a kid knows like that's [ __ ] a. real struggle you know there's no. perfect people man this that doesn't. exist this this idea that there's a. perfect person this is an enlightened. being there are people that choose to go. go down certain paths that will lead to. them making better decisions lead to. them living a more harmonious life but. you're just a monkey you're just some. [ __ ] talking ape that's on this. planet filled with contradictions and. chaos and you're trying to get through.

like all of us are and there's going to. be inter relationship drama and and work. drama and and [ __ ] Community drama. neighborhood drama and you're going to. sometimes you'll be too stressed out or. too tired or too distracted or too too. overworked or whatever the [ __ ] it is. and you're going to have a bad reaction. to those things it doesn't Define you. that that's a real problem that people. have though is one bad reaction like you. yell at your neighbor and your neighbor. [ __ ] you and the cops come you piece of. [ __ ] I'm going to slash your tires and. [ __ ] you and these things that H I had a.

buddy of mine last night explaining to. me some that he got into his with his. neighbor and uh he accused his neighbor. of slashing his tire and he he [ __ ]. like yelled at his neighbor and then he. got his car um picked up by Tria they. change his tire they go you hit a. curb so he had hit a curb and deflated. his tire and he was blaming his neighbor. pull the spare out of your mouth right. now he created this whole Fu and he was. like and I was like he's a comic I was. like are you going to talk about this on. stage I like I can't I'm too embarrassed.

now I'm not ready to like this isn't. funny to me yet he's like telling me cuz. we're friends and we're both laughing. I'm like [ __ ] man did you apologize to. him you're like not yet he was like God. damn it I don't know what to do like cuz. his neighbor would get pissed cuz he. parked in front of his his house and the. guy had trash cans and he's like you're. parking too close to my trash cans I. can't get my trash cans out he's like. what and so he goes out he finds this. note on his car and his Tire's flat and. he assumed that the guy wrote the note. flat in his tire.

yeah he's a good guy but he [ __ ] up. you know like fuckups but if you took. those fuckups and you're like it's all. you concentrate on your whole life all. the times you're [ __ ] up like you're. like oh my God I'm a [ __ ] up like no. you're just a person man that [ __ ] will. repeat itself like you will [ __ ] fall. into the path of that instead of having. the humility or at least getting a. little help from an outside source that. allows you to take a step back pull the. blinders off and see what's going on and. be like you know what man I [ __ ] up. that's also why objectivity is so.

important and introspective thought is. so important because sometimes people. just make excuses for everything they do. everything they do they have a [ __ ]. excuse for so you never get the lessons. and you never get the growth you never. learn you just you just constantly. repeat constantly repeat and then one. day you're a bitter old man yelling at. these kids to stop with their [ __ ]. rock and roll music and your goddamn car. driving down my street with your loud. Muffler and that's the same [ __ ] you.

know just patterns they they fall into. these patterns and then they die and. they just never never corrected enough. never never just never got it never got. it right no introspection if there's no. quiet time yeah we're running out of. time but it it's over Kyle Kingsboro you. bad [ __ ] this is fun man [ __ ]. yeah glad we did this I loved it so I. got to get one of those bad boys and get. my mam MERS Millers what is it Millers. check Millers checked and um the blood. the blood Ketone meter yeah so let's do. this again man I think we could probably.

do this for [ __ ] hours and hours and. hours come back again we'll do it one. more time uh Kings boo on Twitter if you. want to get a hold of Kyle I put that on. my Twitter and uh that's it thanks. brother appreciate it manot much brother. all right my friends that's it for the. week oh we'll be back with a fight. companion Saturday night Brendan Shaw. Brian Callen Eddie Bravo and me so. that's uh Saturday night we'll be uh. here for the UFC fights all right my. friends.

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