Joe Rogan Experience #2522 - Tony Hinchcliffe

Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. >> The Joe Rogan Experience. >> TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY. NIGHT. All day. >> What's up? What's going on? What's. happening? >> Chaos. I love it. >> Everything. >> Yeah. The world's crazy. >> Center of the storm. I think I think the. world's back at war today again. Like. officially, >> right? >> I don't know. I don't think that. agreement with Iran lasted at all.

>> Which one? >> I think there's there was bombings today. in Lebanon and I think there's bombings. today in American bases. >> I try to not pay attention, dude. I. really do. I try to distract myself with. science stuff and space. Uh, I was. watching this documentary yesterday on. how they make chips, like how they make. like semiconductor chips. Dude, this. [ __ ] machine that they use. I'm going.

to send you this, Jamie, because it's. bananas. It's like one of the most. complex machines in the world. And this. this machine they use to make. semiconductors, make chips. And they. were explaining the process of making. these chips, how [ __ ] nuts it is, man. the the amount of atoms that are. stacked on and like the way they do it. to make these like super complex. high-end chips. There's people out. there, Tony, that are doing things way. different than us. Okay? We're out there.

talking about sucking dicks and. [laughter]. people [ __ ] themselves. And what's. going on in other parts of the world is. people are doing science fiction. like. they're they're actually doing science. fiction. Uh here it is. Give me a. second. I uh like to save things. Here. it is. The world's most important. machine. >> It's the one that's an hour long. >> Yes. Did you find it?

>> Yeah. Just an hour long. >> Yeah. But go just go to the There's some. animation where they show how they make. these things. Like it was right where. you were at. >> This is right at the beginning. >> Yeah. Okay. Oh, okay. So, they're just. showing some of the um the different. aspects of how these things are made. Look, go back to where that guy had the. laser beam. That's perfect, actually, where that guy had the laser beam. So, this is him explaining this. So, look at. this. Back it up a little bit and give. me some volume.

>> Can you back it up a little bit, please? >> I want to introduce it to you with a. thought experiment. Imagine. you are shrunk down to the size of an. end and you're given a laser that's. strong enough to melt through metal like. butter. Next, a tiny droplet of molten. tin, roughly the size of a white blood. cell, is shot out in front of you around. 250 km hour. And your task is to hit. this not once, not twice, but three. times in a row in 20 microsconds with. your little laser. Well, that is exactly.

what this machine does. It hits one tiny. tin droplet three times in a row, heating each one up to over 220,000. Kelvin. That's roughly 40 times hotter. than the surface of the sun. And it. doesn't just hit one droplet. It hits. 50,000 droplets every single second. >> How often do you miss a laser shot? >> We don't miss them. >> What? You do 150,000 laser shots a. second and you don't miss one. >> Exactly. The same machine also contains.

mirrors that might just be the smoothest. objects in the universe. If you scale. one up to the size of the Earth, then. the largest bump would be no thicker. than a playing card. >> On top of that, it is able to overlay. one layer of a chip perfectly on top of. another and never be off by more than. five atoms. And this is all happening. while parts of the machine whip around. at accelerations of over 20 GS. For 30. years, almost everyone thought that. actually building this machine was.

impossible. And yet, it exists. [clears throat] There is only one. company in the world that can make it. So, what is this company? And what is. this impossible machine they've built? This video is. >> There you go. >> That's it. >> Wow. >> Yeah. >> What are they doing with that? >> All computers, like computer chips that. are getting better and better and. better. All these AI chips. This is how. they make One interesting thing I can. just add, I know when they make those, they make like a big sheet of chips, you. know? >> Mhm.

>> Like there'll be like 30 or 50 of them. They'll test each one in the ones that. are the best, but test like one out of. 100. The ones that are like closest to. 100 become like the i9 chip. And if it's. like uh 85 out of 100, it becomes like. the i7 chip. So they all come off the. same sheet. Like the best ones become. the best chips. They sell them for the. most money. >> The next ones are just a little. degraded. >> No kidding. Interesting. So where there was that issue with that. Samsung chip factory and it was about. they weren't getting the results that.

they wanted. So it's probably they were. getting more of the shitty chips. >> and not enough of the perfect. >> chips. They want really high-end chips. and it's the real. >> you can smoke. We have a fan in here, dude. >> Sweet. >> Um yeah. Uh, I mean, imagine if. everybody died. and it was just us in this room and. there was like three late Well, be more. than that. We'd have to have more. people. Otherwise, we're going to [ __ ]. up the gene pool. We're all going to. look like the English royals. We need We. probably need a few thousand people. A.

few thousand people like regular people. like you and I that don't know [ __ ]. about how these things work. >> Yeah. >> How much time would we need if we. repopulated the earth with what we know? Basically, you're starting out like a. [ __ ] like a halfass prepper, you. know, like someone who's on an episode. of Lost, you know, like a one of those. plane crash people trying to figure out. how to survive out there. You're [ __ ]. >> Oh, yeah. >> You're not inventing that. >> Uh-uh. >> How long is it going to take? >> Infinity. >> And how many people have to pave the.

way? This is the thing. For every one of. these people that makes uh an invention. like this, you're making this on the. back of thousands and thousands and. thousands of [ __ ] super geniuses that. have figured out each and every step of. the way that can lead you to thinking, is this possible that we could do this. next? You know, they all build on each. other. So, you need all these guys and. hopefully they don't get any [ __ ]. because [laughter] otherwise they're. going to get distracted, >> you know? Well, I bet if one of them.

gets a hot wife, like one of their. patents kicks and they they start making. bank and then all a sudden he shows up. for work in a Ferrari and next you know. he's got a hot wife. Everybody's like, "Oh my god.". >> Yeah. Civilization just went back 100. 200 years. >> We're going to lose Tim. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Tim Tim's taking Adderall, coding 18. hours a day trying to figure out how to. get us to Mars. Actually, that's a bad. point because Elon clearly gets [ __ ]. and doesn't seem to be affecting him at. all. >> I think Elon's different.

>> He's definitely different. >> Yeah. I mean, some people are different, different different. >> It's fascinating how many people want to. find flaws in what he's doing. >> instead of just looking at this like, wow, this is an extraordinary time to be. alive. But it's because of this. narrative that people have. uh one of. them the big one is this US aid is. killing people narrative that people. have died because of US aid then a bunch. of people have given examples of how uh. them cutting the funding has led to the. end of certain people's lives like where.

they were in hospitals that didn't have. any funding and there's a lot of that. that you could point to say right if. they had the money they would have had. the funding and they would have had that. equipment in place or maybe they. wouldn't have but here's the other thing. that's not discounting the fact that a. lot of that money is fraud. >> Yeah. >> A lot of it. Like it's not a little. amount. And the idea that you should let. it go on because it's going to save. lives and there's a bunch of people that. are stealing money. Okay, I see that.

argument. But why are we sending them. money in the first place? Like wh what's. Did we do something to them? Do we owe. them money? No. Okay, we're just being. nice. Are you sure we're just being. nice? Is there anybody profiting of us. off of us being nice? Cuz usually just. being nice for no reason and just giving. tax money away for no reason. I don't. think they do that. I don't think that's. real. I used to think that was real. I. used to think that charity was real. And. now I look at I go, "Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is a giant scam that's. wrapped up in virtue. It's wrapped up in.

a nice cozy blanket of being kind and. compassionate and virtuous and doing. good things for people all around the. world." I think a lot of people get. involved in those things because that's. what they think. We're going to do good. things around the world. They're good. people. I really believe that. And then. they find out how it really works and. then they get stuck in that system and. then they're making their way up their, you know, air quotes corporate ladder to. the point where some of them are making. a million dollars a year and you're. like, what is this? >> Yeah. >> What is this? This is a business. This. isn't really charity. Most of the money.

is going to your employees and your. overhead and your why do you have such a. big building? Like what are you doing? How come you're not just funneling the. money to these people? >> Exactly. >> What? Like the LA fire aid. Yeah. Great. example. Spencer Pratt told me how many. what number did he say of nonprofits got. that money? So over a hund00 million. gets raised. I don't know the exact. total. All of it goes to these different. nonprofits. I think he said 200. different nonprofits got the money.

>> Yeah. >> So and then what happens to that? Well, they just pay their employees. They pay. overhead. They pay their rent on [ __ ]. nice office on wherever they live. >> Mhm. >> [ __ ] man. It's so disheartening because. you you've so that's what all that stuff. is and it's also if you listen to it. when Mike Benz has been on my podcast a. few times and explains us a. people think of it as aid you think of. it as oh we're helping the world which. is great right but it's not that it's.

the agency for international development. and it involves funding rap bands. overseas that are uh the subversive rap. bands that are supposed to uh excite. people to take over the government. There's like a bunch of like weird [ __ ]. funds rebels. It it funds newspapers. And what was he talking about? Like the. there was a lot of it like funding rap. music. Like this is crazy. People have. long said that rap music even though.

listen you love hip-hop. I know you just. got back from Kanye West. I'm a huge. hip-hop fan. >> We got to talk about that at some point. >> We definitely do. I love hip-hop. Um, but there's some people that believe. that gangster rap in particular when it. came about in the 1980s was a part of a. the push to popularize it and produce it. was a a part of the government. some. faction of the government, some faction, some intelligence agencies, wanting to.

create more crime, wanting to fill more. private prisons, wanting to erode the. fabric of society so they could push for. more laws to keep you safer. This is. like the one of the most tinfoily of. tinfoil hat conspiracies. But people are. pointing out that right now it's like. one of the rare times where no rap music. is on the charts. >> Yeah. And they're saying, well, how does. this coincide with US A? Was US A like. actively promoting rap music? Was that.

one of the reasons why rap music was so. poss? >> Is that real? That can't be real. >> Maybe back in the day. It seems like. that would be more manipulative. I I. don't see how. >> I believed that until I heard mumble rap. and I'm like, this makes this is not. real. This is trying to make people. stupid. >> Yeah. There's there's something about. this, you know, and obviously some. artists are better at it than other. Some of them are fun the way they do it, >> but I'm saying there's a giant chunk of. them that are inaudible.

>> You don't know what like who's who's. into this? >> Oh, almost all of them are inaudible. >> Like what what's going on there? Imagine. if like that was it. It was like uh. people heard Nas and like this guy's too. smart. Uh we got to dumb it down a. little. We got to promote some people. that could barely talk. >> Yeah. We got to promote some people that. are on cough syrup apparently. >> Yeah, >> that's the Have you ever done that cough. cough syrup? >> No. >> They seem to love it. >> Yeah. >> A lot of dudes who are into that that. cough syrup, man. They they swear by it.

>> It's crazy. It's got to be fun. It's got. to be enjoyable. >> Is it codine? Is that what they're. doing? >> I think so. >> Have you done it, Jamie? Bro, we talked about this before, but I. remember um back in the 90s I got a hold. of some Nyquil, the real Nyquil. Like I. guess they changed the formula for. Nyquil and uh I had you know whatever. the flu or something and I took some. Nyquil and I was laying in bed and I was. like this is wonderful. Yeah, >> it was wonderful. like the just the.

warmth, the softness of the pillows and. the warmth of the bed with the covers. over me like, "Oh, this is wonderful.". And I remember thinking, "Oo, this is. dangerous.". >> Oh, yeah. >> Like, this is a dangerous feeling. Because if your life was [ __ ] and you. found that like that's better than. anything else that's happening in your. life. >> Yeah. >> And you can get it at CVS. >> Crazy. Crazy. >> Who was in the old Nyquil. >> before they switched it? I avoid that stuff like the plague. I'm.

afraid of medicine. >> So, this stuff probably was like sitting. in my house if I took it. So, it might. have even been older than 97 or 98. whenever this was that I was sick. But. I'll never forget it cuz then I never. get like getting scared like I could. love this. Like I could just drink this. during the day and just like sit on my. back porch if I have the day off. >> Yeah. >> Just get obliterated with Nyquil and. just enjoy the universe. I told you. about that time I took a half of the. pain pill that the dentist gave me for.

my wisdom tooth. I was like, "Oh, [ __ ]. This is lifechanging.". >> It says, "The earliest Nyquil formula. include Ephadrin, which is a. decongestant, docam, doc, docyamine, sisinate, which is an antihistamine, acetaminophen, dextro. methorphan, cough suppressant, and about. 25% alcohol." Mhm. >> Oh, I was getting drunk, too. >> Mhm. >> Wow. Um, what changed the mid-200s after.

the combat methamphetamine at There it. is. They removed pseudo epidurine. So, was that the stuff? So, it wasn't. coding. But is there I think there is. Nyquil with coding though, right? >> What I had was pretty good. I don't. think it was as simple. >> Yeah. You had the stuff they could make. mess out of or whatever. >> Yeah. Okay. Okay, we'll put it in. perplexity. and perplexity says in the mid 20ou.

Yeah, Nyquil brands sold in the US do. not contain codin and there's never been. a standard Vix Nyquil with codin in its. active ingredient lineup. Typical Nyquil. form. So codin. So does any cough syrup. have codin in it? >> That's what lean is. So you're talking. about. >> they add it. >> or is it just prescription cough syrup? >> That was the whole thing about it. Maybe I am [ __ ] up my memory and. maybe it wasn't Nyquil cuz whatever it. was. It seems like. >> you get [ __ ] up off Nyquil but you.

have to drink like the whole bottle. You. get Nyquil like just get [ __ ] up. >> I definitely didn't drink the whole. bottle. I I know I took a dose. like a strong dose. >> I mean you're just getting [ __ ] up off. 25% alcohol and a little bit of a. >> maybe. >> a little bit of side mess. >> See the thing is it's so long ago I. can't remember. I say Nyquil because. it's like saying Q-tips. >> Yeah. you know, or Kleenex just because. it's tissues or ear swabs. I don't know. if it was Nyquil, but it was cough. syrup, whatever the [ __ ] it was. And I. felt wonderful. And I remember thinking. like, this could be a real problem.

>> Like that one day in bed, cuz I'm always. scared of stuff like that. I'm always. scared to get I knew too many people. when I was growing up that got hooked on. stuff. Yeah. >> And it just derailed their life. So. lying in bed, I was like, "Oh, you're. going to do this again. No more this.". >> Right. >> I like it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I got a knee surgery once. They. gave me morphine. They made morphine in. a drip. >> And they say that you can only hit that. button so many times it stops giving to. you. Yeah. But every time you feel pain, you can just hit the button cuz I was on. like a perpetual motion machine. Yeah.

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[clears throat and cough] because I've. never had like a serious surgery or. anything, but I go to this uh they have. a dental office here in Austin called. the Austin Dental Spa. So their whole. thing is like a luxurious. dental experience and they will hook you. up to laughing gas and they let you like. if they're like they're like you want a. little more and I'm like okay yeah and. that's like the closest I get to it is. once every 6 months or so I go there and. dude I'm [laughter] always excited about. this [ __ ] experience. It is so.

awesome. >> Do you ever come up with bits after. doing laughing gas to give you any. ideas? No, but during the thing it makes. me weirdly honest. You ever seen in Kill. Bill when he shoots her in the knee with. the honest gun cuz he was a chemist for. like a living is like his secret job. So. he comes up with this truth serum and. I've noticed that it makes me like. weirdly very honest. So one time when I. was in the dental office, the guy's. doing whatever and I'm like and I'm. jacked on laughing gas cuz it's not.

really you're not really like cracking. up. you're just like in heaven and. you're like it's kind of smiling ear to. ear. And I remember going like how long. did you go to school for dental school? And he's like whatever the answer is. like 8 years. And I'm like did you ever. think about going longer and becoming a. real doctor? And then I and I realized. like kind of in the moment even though I. was [ __ ] up [laughter] like that's. that sounds mean but I think they're. totally used to it. I think they know. that laughing gas makes people [ __ ]. >> I bet they're not used to that dude. That's so mean. [laughter] It's not. supposed.

that's what I'm saying is it's like a. dangerous. >> a real doctor. >> a dangerous truth serum. >> Some people want to be dentists. >> Yeah, >> we need them too. >> Yeah, >> you know. >> crazy gig. >> Yeah, >> it's a weird one. >> I know. Imagine how much bad breath they. smell. >> and just weird things lodged in teeth. for God only knows how long. When I got. my root canal, um, one of the reason why. I had to get it is cuz, uh, I had a cap. on my tooth or a a filler, whatever it.

is. What's it called? >> Fillings. >> No, the when they just fill your tooth. up. Why? Why can't I remember? >> Filling. >> Fillings. Why did I say filler? Whatever. >> Yeah. Uh, it was old school one, you. know? It was like white plastic. And. when I was a kid, I used to have them. They were like [ __ ] lead. They used. to give you lead fillings, which is. crazy. Like kids had lead in their. mouth. Um, and it was hurting. It was bothering. me. So, what had happened was uh I had. cracked the tooth and it had gotten. infected underneath the uh filling. So,

he takes the filling out and drills into. it and the smell. >> that came out of my mouth. It was so It. was pus. All this pus came out and this. [ __ ] horrific smell. >> I was like, "Oh my god, is that coming. out of my mouth?". >> Yeah. He's like, "Oh, that's normal. It's decay. There's an infection under here. We're. going to treat it. You're going to be. fine.". >> Yeah. Piece of elk from seven years ago. >> This is a long time ago. This is a long. time ago. It was before I was hunting, I.

think. >> But it was uh I you know, people die. from that stuff, which is really crazy. Like, if you don't take care of your. teeth and you get that kind of. infection, those kind of infections can. become septic. >> Yeah. Well, it's nuts. Sometimes I'll do. a thing where I'll water floss after I. brush my teeth just to see what would. have been left in there if I just did. what normal humans do cuz high pressure. water flossers that I [ __ ] love. Complete game changer for life. And it's. insane what will jet out of there with.

gets stuck deep in between the teeth and. everything. And you know I think you're. I would for the most part I do it before. I brush but every once in a while I'll. be like I wonder if there's anything. left in there you know. Yeah, you have. to floss. You're gonna get a bunch of. [ __ ] stuck in there. >> But. >> and even then, sometimes I'll regular. floss and then brush my teeth and just. out of curiosity go, I wonder if there's. anything left in there. And I'll do a. one silver with a water flosser and you. see like ding ding ding, three little. things come out. It's like that would. have marinated.

>> in between my teeth or in the back of my. gum line or whatever. >> Yeah, that's not good. But according to. my dentist, he thinks it's all sugar. He. thinks if you go back and you look at. like when people started developing. serious cavities, it's the people have. always had abscesses and broken teeth. and there's always been like dental. problems that haunted people because. back in the day, man, they just pull the. tooth out and then who knows what kind. of infection you still have in there and. they don't treat it. In the 1700s, if. you broke your tooth and got an.

infection, you could be [ __ ] dead, you know? You could die from that [ __ ]. But he was saying that the the amount of. cavities like steeply increased when. people started putting sugar and. everything and then kids started. drinking sugary sodas and eating sugary. candy and that stuff gets stuck in your. teeth. It's like I think that's the. cause of it. >> Yeah. And probably high fructose corn. syrup's probably just as bad or if not. worse than actual sugar. >> That stuff's not good for your body. That's for sure. Your body doesn't like. it. Someone explained to me what's the. difference in the absorption of high.

fructose corn syrup versus natural cane. sugar. I completely forget how they. explained it, but they were they were. basically saying that there's some. issues with how the body breaks it down. >> Well, when you drink a soda, just think. about that. Where in nature do you get. 20 grams of sugar just in liquid form. and you just pump it downug? Ah, refreshing. >> Crazy. My buddy that I uh went to school. with just flew in from Hawaii, which is. where he's lived for like 20 years. He's.

like he's like a wilderness guy. Climbs. trees and cuts down his own pineapples. and coconuts and stuff all the time. He's he's got a great life. And um he uh. he checked a bag this trip just a few. days ago. Um and he brought it to the. mother ship because that's where we met. up. And he surprised me with this. checked bag that was like that had the. moldings built in and everything. It had. four coconuts and two white Hawaiian. pineapples, I think they're called, which like run like $65 each or.

something in the US. Like it's. impossible to get. And um according to. him, I don't know. Uh he's a real. hippie- dippy type. >> Is that the dude that you brought to the. mother? >> Yeah, Anthony. Yeah. >> Your friend from high school, which is. crazy. >> Yeah, he's the he's the man. He's just a. real dude. >> That's crazy when you know people for. that long. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so this dude is. just living in Hawaii, living his best. life. >> And I I mean, holy [ __ ] these [ __ ]. pineapple. He's like, "Dude, you're. going to love this pineapple. Pineapple. Pineapple." He just kept going on about. it. I'm like, "All right, okay." Sure.

enough. Holy [ __ ] [ __ ] man. It's. nature can deliver you a sugar dose cuz. he was saying that white Hawaiian. pineapples have higher sugar but much. lower acidity. >> than what we're used to. So it makes a. whole different and since obviously it's. natural sugar and this and that. It just. makes a whole different type of [ __ ]. fruit. It's crazy. >> Sounds good. >> Wild how we have to go other places to. get unbelievable [ __ ]. >> Well, of course Hawaii. >> Yeah, >> Hawaii really should be its own country.

>> Yeah, >> I listen. I love Hawaii. I'm glad. they're protected by the United States. People are cool as [ __ ] It should be. its own country. It's 5 hours by plane. >> I mean, come on, man. Yeah, >> white pineapples primarily known as. sugarloaf or white jade pineapples. >> Highly prized rare variety grown in. Hawaii. Unlike standard yellow, they. feature creamy white flesh, particularly. uh practically no acidity and a complex. completely edible core. >> It was great. >> And [ __ ] he climbs a goddamn tree.

>> like a little [ __ ] monkey boy. Normal. little white dude. >> How did he wind up in Hawaii? [sighs and gasps] Uh, he's a real free. spirit. He always was. I think he just. went out there, visited, and stayed. He's the kind of guy that just gets a. one-way ticket places, and figures it. out as he goes. He's in Youngstown right. now. That shows you how adventurous and. crazy he is. [laughter] He's like, I'm. going to spend a week and a half there. I'm like, a week and a half in. Youngstown. >> Why is he doing that? >> Visit family and friends? He said,

>> is there a good hotel to stay at in. Youngstown? [laughter]. >> No. And I even had to look this up. recently because I'm like, I'm not. staying at the crazy hotel that I stayed. at last time I was there. So I'm like, best hotel in Youngsttown. And the. funniest thing is the actual closest. option was in Pennsylvania, like 50. minutes away. Truly, I mean, there's one. like Double Tree downtown, but it's in. an area of absolute chaos. [laughter]. I mean, just death wish. >> Do you ever go back there and go, I.

can't believe I grew up here? >> Always. 100% of the time. I got a. feeling for it immediately when I went. to LA and I didn't hear police sirens. anymore, like as often at least. You. know what I mean? >> Isn't that funny? Like LA with LA's. crime. >> That's what I always thought. I'm like, "Oh, this is going to be crazy. I've. heard these Tupac songs. Like, this is. going to be nuts." And it was. >> That was US A. >> So peaceful. Yeah, [laughter] exactly. So peaceful. In Youngstown, [snorts]. at least when I was growing up there,

you could hear a police siren or an. ambulance siren almost at any point of. the day. >> God, >> my buddy sent me a shirt recently, too. Another one buddy um that has the stats. on it of us being the murder capital. I. think it was 90, 91, and 96 per capita. Not the biggest population, but per capita, it was the most. dangerous place you could be. when I was. in those most developmental years when a. kid shouldn't be having his head next to.

the window. Yeah, there it is. I got. that shirt. >> Wow. >> Fourtime defending champion, murder. capital of America. >> Wow. >> Yep. In 01 02. That puts me as a. sophomore and junior in high school. >> 9597. I'm 112. >> And you're being raised by your mom. >> Yeah. on the north on the craziest. [ __ ] area of the whole goddamn thing. The most dilapidated part of the north. side of Youngtown.

>> Wow. >> Yeah. I can't believe it. [laughter]. That's why like every part of my [ __ ]. story I'm like, "This is so goddamn. weird." So weird. >> It is when you think about it, right? When you really stop and think about it, it doesn't seem real. 60 years ago, this. Ohio city was named Crime Town, USA. >> Yep. Crime Town. >> 75 bombings. >> Yep. >> Oh, this was the mob days. >> Yeah. >> So, it used to be a mob run town, right? >> Totally. >> They were called bomb town. >> Yeah. It was a Youngstown tuneup is a.

car bomb. >> Look at this. 75 bombings, 11 killings in a decade, and no one. seems to care. [laughter]. >> They were so nuts in Youngstown that. somebody tried to kill the actual. prosecutor, the actual DA. Oh, isn't. that normal that they always try to do. that? >> Well, it's kind of the stupidest, craziest thing you could do because then. the entire FBI comes down on you. It's a. little shortsighted to go, "Ah, we're. going to kill the main cop of this city.

and not think that anything's going to. happen from that. Well, we beat the. game. We beat the main cop.". >> Imagine trying to be an intelligent. businessman and also a mob leader. Imagine like planning things out in. advance and but also you're a mob. leader. >> There was a lot of that going on and I. got to see quite a bit of it. Like there. were uh let's put it this way mall. developers in Youngstown and things like. that. And I got to see firsthand very.

young that they were communicating with. politicians at lunchtime and stuff. because I was working at this little. Italian restaurant at the time right out. of high school. and um and having they. were having these quiet meetups in a. quiet in the corner of a quiet Italian. restaurant and you would see these huge. moguls, you know, I won't name any. names, but big business people in. Youngstown meeting with the local this. and that and congressmen. I got to meet. that congressman and that congressman.

because they're there meeting with these. super duper rich people. And I'm like, I. wonder what the correlation is there, >> bro. Back then when there was no cell. phones. >> Yeah. And you know, they had to bug. people. They have to They had to. literally bug businesses to get. information. >> Like they were all doing something. >> Oh yeah. >> You couldn't be involved in any big time. business if you weren't down with the. Teamsters. If you weren't down with the. Long Shoreman, >> you had to you had to We got TO WORK. THIS OUT, BOBBY.

We're businessmen. >> That's That's how you did the business. >> Give a little money to their campaign. Not a [snorts] little, but a bit. And. then you can get your stuff passed and. make life easier down the road. >> Dude, I had friends that had no show. jobs. >> Wow. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I had a friend of mine that had a. no-show job in New York at the Javit. Center. >> You know, the Javit Center is like a big. convention center. >> He had a union no-show job. >> Wow. >> So, he was a mob guy. >> Yeah. >> And they they just gave him money.

>> I only get a free check on the Sopranos. They had those no-show construction. jobs. They're sitting there with their. portable fans. Yeah. No, that's real, dude. That is a real thing. >> Yeah. >> There's They get a certain amount of. jobs. Like they would make agreements. Like the union would make an agreement. We get a certain amount of these jobs. There's like, you know, >> it's crazy. >> There's really a hundred jobs, but we. want 130. Uh, Youngstown was uh a haven for.

organized crime related corruption was. ingrained into the fabric of its. society. A 2000 publication, New. Republic, listed a chief of police, the. outgoing prosecutor, the sheriff, the. county engineer, members of the local. police force, a city law director, several defense attorneys, politicians, judges, and a former assistant US. attorney as controlled by the mob. [laughter]. >> So if they have that, if they found that. for sure, imagine how many others there. are, >> right? That's everybody. That's.

everybody. the prosecutor, the sheriff, the county engineer, the police force, city law director, defense attorney. Imagine not being down with the mob. Like, do you want to stay alive? Like, do you want to work in this business? >> Right. And this is a city. I think we. looked it up the other day, actually. I. think it only has 25,000 white people. >> So, knowing that black people tend to. not be in the Italian mob, just going. off of 25,000, and that's current. I don't know what it. was back in the day, but the point is is.

like it's not a big city. It's not I think 50 60,000 half or less. white. [laughter] So. >> there's Tony. >> Yeah, >> there's little Tony watching pro. wrestling. >> Oh yeah, [laughter] pro wrestling. And. even then I was obsessed with Good. Fellas and a Bronx Tale and a Godfather. because it's like it's just what you're. taught is humanity. Like that's life. >> Yeah. So getting out of that and going to LA. and thinking it was going to be all it's.

going to be crazy gangs and stuff and. it's just quiet. Granted, I started in. Burbank, which is a [ __ ] television. studio essentially. But when I moved to. New Jersey and I didn't have any money. when I first moved to New York, I I. couldn't afford to live in New in New. York City or I didn't even have an. apartment. I stayed with my grandparents. cuz my grandfather lived in New Jersey. in New York. And um he bought a house. there in I think it was like the 1940s. and they did a thing called. blockbusting. Do you know what. blockbusting is? They would go to door.

to door and they would say black people. are moving into the neighborhood. You. got to sell now. And everybody sold. It. used to be an entirely Italian. neighborhood. >> Uh and he was like I like black people. Get the [ __ ] out of here. And he kept. his house but it was like one of very. few families that stayed. And then black. people moved out. And then they started. getting like different people, Spanish-. speakaking people, like Dominicans and a. bunch of other. And that's how it was. when I stayed with them. So this is like. [sighs and gasps]. nu 91. Yeah, I was three years in the.

comedy, so it's probably 91. And uh. while I was living with them, the next. door neighbor's house got broken into by. the cops. The DEA smashed down his door. The dude had an Audi parked in a. driveway. He was selling crack like. right next door to my grandpa. >> Wow. The whole neighborhood was just. nuts, dude. Like he would get really. nervous when I would leave. Like I would. leave to go play pool somewhere and he. like be careful. Like it was [ __ ]. sketchy. >> Yeah. >> But it didn't used to be like when he. first moved there. It was just an all.

Italian neighborhood. >> Yep. >> Real estate people even back like what a. dirty thing to do. >> Scare people into moving. That's. probably the first project of US Aid. That's probably [laughter]. >> Yeah. They probably got real estate people to. destroy neighborhoods. >> There's something to it. I don't know. the correlation of Italian neighborhoods. being taken over, not taken over, but. whatever by black people like the mobrun.

cities like Youngstown, like Chicago, like Detroit. Um, it's an interesting anomaly. I wonder if. there's any correlation between the. things. Well, you know, most of the. Italians that came in the early 20th. century were very poor. You know, they. were all coming over here for labor or. jobs and things along those lines. And. um you know, when they started doing. better, they you know, they started. moving out and moving into the suburbs. and moving into you know, more.

gentrified areas. It's always what are. the new immigrants that are going to. come and take over this area that was. like formerly a lowincome Italian. neighborhood or a lowincome Irish. neighborhood. It's the same thing. Like. there's cycles, you know. >> It's like there's cycles in fighting. too. Like in the early 20th century, there's a lot of Jewish fighters like. Slappy Maxi Rosen Bloom. You never heard. of him, right? Some very good Jewish. fighters. um because they were poor and. there were the the new immigrants, you.

know, and this is like before World War. II. And then in and even afterwards. there was some but then you get. Italians, you get a lot of Italians, get. Rocky Marciano, Rocky Gratziano, there's. a lot of like uh Jake Lamada, there's a. lot of these like Italian bad. [ __ ] because they were poor. >> Yeah. And then what happened? Then you. got a lot of Puerto Ricans, a lot of, you know, it's always like who's the new. immigrants, >> right? >> And who are the most hungry, come from. the most povertyridden areas. Like.

Roberto Duran came from a terrible part. of Panama. Like not terrible, but I mean. like very poor, very violent. >> Yeah. >> And he was one of the baddest. [ __ ]. >> Boom. Manini was right down the street. >> Yep. Yeah. I mean, Youngstown's known. for boxing. >> Yeah. Kelly Pav. Kelly Pavick, who's. been on the podcast. He's awesome. >> Yeah, >> he was a beast, dude. >> Oh, man. >> That fight with him and Germaine Taylor. won. Sometimes I still rewatch the end. of that to.

>> How did he survive? >> Give me a burst of energy. >> I mean, how did he make it through that? That was a crazy I mean, he got dropped. He looked like it looks like the fight. was over. And then when he's got him in. the corner and he rocks him. >> and you you go, "No way. He's coming. back. This is crazy." Easy. >> This Did you watch uh the fights this. weekend? Geron Boot Boots Enis and I. forget the the dude he was fighting. >> No, I was at that concert. I missed it. >> Boots is very good. And for the most. part, he beat his ass. But the third.

round he got rocked. The third round was. incredible cuz he the kid he was. fighting, who's the gentleman that he. was fighting, Jamie? >> Zas. >> Zas. Yeah. Young kid. He uh got dropped. in the second round like pretty bad. Boots is very good. He's like one of the. best boxers alive. And then the third. round, the kid came back and rocked. Boots and it was just a war. Just the. third round was incredible. Boots wound. up stopping him. I think he stopped him. in like the seventh or the eighth round. Uh he just dropped him one last time and. the the re the corner called it. It was.

enough. Like he was getting his ass. kicked, but he was very very valiant, you know. It was a really good fight. Like Boots is better than him. Like. clearly he's like he's on another level, but this kid showed just tremendous. heart. But it's like that third round. was just coming back from getting. dropped in the second. Like those kind. of moments where a guy's getting [ __ ]. up like like the Gachi Tapora fight. >> Yep. >> Perfect example. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> That's when it's really a fight. >> A a real fight cuz Toporia was.

[clears throat] on him in that second. round, >> man. We were so close. They were in They. were You could hear it. >> They Oh, you could really You could feel. it where I was, man. And you know, obviously we're always close to the cage. on those things, but then when gate when. Turia was landing those body shots, [snorts] it was right against our side. of the fence, and I'm literally like, "Oh my." I mean, holy [ __ ] [ __ ] man. And I've seen a lot of people get ripped. to the body before, but there is.

something about his close range strength. in near that clinch, that close up. [ __ ] range of Elia that is scary. >> He's so good, dude. He's so good and. he's so precise. He just tried to like. ch I always repeat this because Chail. Son said it was perfect. If you try to. win by knockout and fail, you won't win. a decision. >> Yeah. And sometimes you just run out of. gas because like you're not supposed to. fight like that if you think that the.

fight's going to go five rounds. Like. Ilia had him hurt and he's like, I can. take him out. But Justin's so durable, man. He's so durable. And that left hook. to the body, the sound of it, man, is. just whip. It's so perfect. He throws. perfect punches. His punches are just I. mean even Justin said it in the. postfight interview like when he's fresh. his skills are unmatched. Like that's a. crazy thing to say to a guy you just. beat up and made stop. He stopped him in. the fourth round.

>> Yeah, >> that's crazy to say like his skills are. unmatched. But they really are. >> Every point of that I'm at every point. of that anybody I think that knows. anything about those two fighters is. going until this is stopped. Anybody can. win this. Like even when his face was. blown up and his eyes looked black and. closed. >> Mhm. >> Until that air horn rings, I'm like. anything. One punch. And we've seen it. even with Gachi. You saw it with.

Holloway, right? Was it him? Who did he. square up with in the middle? >> Holloway. Yeah. >> Yes. Hit him with that final punch. >> One chin. One with one second left. It. can all be over. >> Yeah. That was a little different in. that Holloway caught him with a jump. spinning back kick to the face in the. very last seconds of the first round and. broke the bone of his nose. >> Um, we talked about it on the podcast. and I was like that changed that fight. because before that Gatei was pressing.

him and it looked very competitive and. it looked like maybe Gachi had a slight. advantage but that's cuz Max Max's very. clever, very clever fighter. like he's. always switching stances and moving and. you know really hadn't showed that. spinning back kick a lot that hadn't. been a feature in a lot of his fights. He did it a few times but to for to for. him to land it that way backing up jump. to the face I mean it was perfect. >> Yeah, >> it was perfect. And his nose was [ __ ]. And if you're fighting with a broken. like a broken bone on your face every.

time you're getting hit you're getting. just blasted. >> Yeah. >> You're the pain is insane. And then, you. know, he had, you know, he was a step. behind Max. Max is teeing off on him. He. landed some good shots, though, even. though it was a good fight. I mean, Max. was definitely ahead in the fifth round, but it was a good fight. And then, you. know, during that wild exchange, he. should have never done that. >> Yeah, >> he was already fading, whereas Max was. still very fresh. >> [ __ ] crazy fight, man.

>> Yeah, >> that was a crazy fight. I think. Topiria's nose was broken in round two. I think it was pretty early on and uh. >> hard to say. >> Yeah. >> You know, but uh Justin did clip him. with a bunch of those uppercuts. So. Justin does this thing where he like. collar ties you and then throws an. uppercut in tight. And he's really good. at it. He's really good at like turning. you a little and then throwing an. uppercut. In these exchanges, he collar. ties and uppercuts. He caught him a few. times and you just get one of those on. the [ __ ] nose on the old schnozle.

This thing's so brittle. >> Yeah. >> It's such a If you feel your nose, just. feel it. >> Have you ever seen Morab's nose? >> The X-ray of Morab's nose. You never. seen it. >> I sent it to you, right, Jamie? >> Jamie, you'll find it. >> It's crazy. Look what it looks like. >> Oh my god. >> Look at that. >> Oh [ __ ]. >> bro. Jeez. >> That thing is destroyed. I mean, it's. destroyed. He's getting zero air out of. that. He's got the best cardio on planet.

Earth, and he's getting zero air out of. his nose. >> Wow. >> But he won't get it fixed cuz if he gets. it fixed, he he can't fight for like a. year and he just wants to keep on. trucking. >> Yeah, >> that dude's a freak. >> If I was his friend, I would say, "Dude, you got a lot of money. You're a world. champion. Fix the nose. Let's fix it. Let's take a year off. Come back and. [ __ ] these [ __ ] up." Cuz if. that guy's got a fixed nose, he's got. 10% more cardio. Are you crazy? That guy.

with 10% more cardio. That's an extra. weapon. >> I would get it fixed. But the problem is. if he gets it fixed and then like he. fights a guy like Hollow and he gets. jumping spinning back kicked to the nose. in the first round and it's shattered as. again, then he's kind of [ __ ] Because. if they have to fix it again, then they. might have to start taking pieces of. your rib out and reconstructing your. nose and grafting bone and doing weird. [ __ ] And then sometimes that [ __ ]. doesn't take and sometimes it gets. infected and then you have a bone.

infection on your face and what do they. do then? Then they have to remove your. nose. Is that what they have to do? >> [ __ ]. >> God. >> Scary [ __ ] man. >> Very much so. >> These [ __ ] dudes, man. That is a. crazy job to risk your life, risk your. health, risk your bones. You You're. making a living by trying to damage. another person who's trying to damage. you. Nuts. But it's also why it's the most. exciting [ __ ] in the world to watch. >> Exactly. >> So exciting. >> Yeah. >> Even boxing as, you know, tamed in.

comparison to MMA because there's less. weapons and less options and a lot more. padding. >> Yeah. You don't get the chokeouts, the. crazy chokeouts. There was a crazy choke out this. weekend. Um, his name is Ruseov and he. fought uh God, how do I say his last. name? He fought this Russian cat and got. him Russian or Ukrainian, I forget. Um, but he got him in a rear naked choke and. and put him to sleep. And it was one of. those ones where the guy looks dead. He's like lying there. I mean, it was a.

[ __ ] nasty choke, man. And yeah, like. and it's Look at him. >> Oh yeah, I saw that. >> It was dark, dude. >> It's another meme out this week along. with the W girl pointing. >> What's his name, >> bro? It was nuts. >> The memes on these things are nuts. nowadays. Oh, the internet is. undefeated. >> Oh, it's crazy. >> They're so good at memes. Oh my god. >> There's so many people out there working. jobs that they hate. >> that are smart and funny. >> Yep. [laughter]. We were talking about it the other day, but you you've have you caught up with.

any of those WNBA what's her name? The. girl that's pointing at. >> Sophie Cunningham. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I've been um paying Can you put. that thing in the middle? Put the. ashtray in the middle. Um, I've been. paying attention very little, but one of. the things that I did watch is all the. fowls. Like these [ __ ] throw each. other to the ground. They and they poke. each other in the eyes. >> Like they do this. They literally jab. each other in the eyes. It's crazy. Like. they they foul and also they travel so.

much. >> Oh, it's crazy. >> They take like four or five steps and. then no one calls them on it. >> Oh, yeah. double dribble everything. >> Is there a trend now to not call. traveling? >> Yes, without a doubt. In the actual NBA, it's a thing too. >> There's it's hard to get into this. without going way into like the weeds, but the NBA has a technically different. rule than college and like high school. and everyone else where there's they. call it a gather step and they. definitely would call it in high school, >> but they work all day manipulating it.

with the referee watching them saying. like you can do that but you can't do. that. you can do this, but you can't do. that. And so, like, they've got it to a. place where everything they're doing. looks like traveling and dribble double. dribbles, but guys will break it down in. slow-mo and you'll be like, "Well, technically it's not.". >> Cuz weird. I always thought if you took. a step, you had to bounce the ball. >> Yeah, >> that's how it should be. >> You're allowed to. >> Doesn't it seem like that should be how. it is? When you see guys taking four. steps, you're like, what's going on? >> But do you want to see exciting. basketball or not?

>> Yeah, [laughter]. I do. >> All right. Well, then just let the. referees call the game how they call it. >> But I think there's something exciting. about you having to bounce that ball. because you won't be able to score as. much, right? >> Correct. >> Like if you have to bounce it every two. steps, whatever it is. >> I wish I loved the NBA like I did when I. was a kid and [ __ ] Barkley and Jordan. and Ewing and all these people were. physical. It is just a whole different. game now. >> So back then was it traveling like when.

the Larry Bird days? >> Hell yeah. Unless Jordan talked to the. ref and said, "Yo, you're wrong. Let me. do what I want." And then. >> Well, Jordan had the cheat code where he. would leap from the [ __ ] free throw. line. That is so when I've watched. videos of that, it doesn't even look. real. >> He was such an amazing athlete. >> He was so good and so possessed by his. desire to win. He would do things that. you would just go, "How does a person. fly?". >> Yeah, >> dude. Imagine if he was like a like one.

of those jumpers, those long distance. jumpers. He'd probably have an insane. jump. >> Yeah, >> because he he's going from the free. throw line in the air. >> That's crazy. >> Everything he did was crazy. The way he. did things, the way he practiced, everything. >> Yeah. And did he not make his college. team? >> No. That's. >> high school team. >> No. >> Wasn't there like one year. >> when he was a freshman? He didn't make. the varsity team. >> That's what I'm saying. >> Yeah. That's most freshman don't. Perfect. May have changed basketball.

history forever. >> Most freshmen don't. That doesn't make. sense because they're not even developed. yet. >> Yeah, that's plan. >> I know kids in Texas, they keep their. kids back a year. >> Wow. >> They want their kid to be bigger. >> I want Billy to be the biggest freshman. I want him to be a 15year-old freshman. We're pushing for right before his 15th. birthday. Like, hey, 15's a sophomore. Billy's a [ __ ] cheater. [laughter]. Why you sandbagging Billy? >> Yeah. that it doesn't bother me nearly. as much in a sport like football where I. see what you're doing like you're.

preparing a kid for a professional. future perhaps. Especially in Texas, they're very into it down here. But if. it's a wrestling, it's like, hey, >> yeah, >> hey, there's [ __ ] no money in this. and that kid's 16 and he's in the ninth. grade. [laughter]. >> Yeah, it's nuts. >> How is the How old is the oldest that a. kid can be and compete in high school. sports? Jamie, [laughter]. >> please put that into our sponsor. Perplexity. Let's find out. I wonder if.

it varies by sport. >> Definitely by sport and by state. >> Interesting. Do they all have a cap at 18 or do they. allow you to compete at 19? Yeah, there's going to be a But before I even. hit enter, I know it's going to say. something about like your graduating. class can't be out maybe more than like. two years or something like that in case. you got held back or you had an injury. or something like that. >> Boy, I remember from my days of being. like 17 and 18, the difference between.

17 and 19 was huge. >> Oh yeah. >> It's a big difference. >> [ __ ] yeah. >> By the time you're 19, you're basically. man strength. You 17 I was like a boy. still. >> Yeah. you know, like I was flimsy. 17. was like a flimsy kid. By the time I was. 19, it was it's a different animal. You. You've got two more years of training. and testosterone in you. >> Yeah. >> If you're a wrestler, that's got to be a. huge advantage. >> Every advant everything in wrestling is. a huge advantage. Starting one year. earlier is crazy.

>> Huge. Huge advantage. >> 19 based off of certain. >> Oh, bro, that's so rude. making. 19year-olds wrestle against like. possibly 15 year olds is crazy, right? So, if you are like in a certain weight. class that's not strong, like I wasn't a. good wrestler. I was a pretty good. wrestler, but I started I was on the. varsity team at my high school and uh. like one year I didn't even cut weight. or one one weight class I didn't cut I. was I there was a guy that was below me. at like 126 or 128 and he was better.

than me and so the next available weight. class was 134 which is I that's what I. normally weighed when I was 15 so I just. wrestled at 134. >> That's lovely. Well, I could have been in there with a. 19-year-old [ __ ] animal who weighs a. buck 60 and dries himself out briefly to. hit 134. And there was guys like that, man. You would see them at like the. states and you go, "What the fuck?". >> Yeah. >> And they were going to camps, so they. were wrestling 365 days a year, all year.

long. >> Oh, yeah. >> I just started. I didn't know anything. >> Same. I started as a freshman in high. school and got [ __ ] up. >> I didn't even start as a freshman. I. started as a sophomore. I started as a sophomore because some. kid kicked my ass in the locker room. Some some kid grabbed me in a headlock. and threw me to the ground and didn't. punch me. He could have punched me. Decided not to. But I was so humiliated. I was like, "Oh my god, I need to learn. how to wrestle.". >> Mhm. >> Then I also wrestled in the park like in. the grass with my friend Stephen and I. thought I'd be able I was a good.

athlete. I was doing karate. I was like, "He can't take me down." He took me down. instantly. I was like, "Oh no, this is. terrible." [laughter]. >> Yeah. It's a whole different beast. It's. also like how tired you get. I remember. thinking I used to think that I had. worked out before that because I'd, you. know, taken karate classes and done some. taekwondo. I thought I'd worked out. >> You don't even know what working out is. until you go through a wrestling. practice. You're like, >> "We're running stairs. What? What? We're. carrying guys around the wrestling room. You pick up your partner, your training. partner, you have the firemen carry them.

around the [ __ ] room.". >> Yeah. >> Oh, Jesus Christ. Then you're doing. push-ups and sit-ups to puke. And then. you're doing live drills. [ __ ]. >> Non-stop, >> dude. Animals. >> Yeah, we would rotate. uh you know, there's all those different. weight classes and just for shits and. giggles, you know, one of the drills. was, you know, escape from the next guy. All right. Beep. Whistleblows escape. You're on bottom. You have to get out. the next guy. So sometimes I at a 103.

weight class I would have Hugh Frost who. was I think 235 245 250. [laughter]. >> Oh yeah. Just for one drill and it's a. [ __ ] joke. It's a pancake and he. would probably he was probably showing. mercy at the time obviously but not. really cuz he doesn't want to he doesn't. want to let this little [ __ ] [ __ ]. 103 out from under him. So he's you know. putting enough pressure to keep. everybody there. Not to mention the 165. freak of nature made of muscle and the. 185, you know, it was just a drill. But.

that reality hits hard. That's how you. see the difference between 15 and 17 and. all that. >> And someone who actually really knows. how to wrestle and just wrestler. strength. Like I always tell people, if. you want to look at MMA, like what is. the most important skill? The the the. foundation is wrestling. The foundation. If you wanted your kid to be a badass. fighter, you're like, "My kid really. loves fighting. He thinks he wants to do. it, but I want to prepare him right, which I do." Teach him how to wrestle, get that kid into a really good.

wrestling program. Because if you have. advanced wrestling, you look at how it. shuts down so many fighters. Like look. at what Hamzot did to Dreus Dupacy. Hamza, he just raged all them. His. wrestling is at such a high level. And. Dus, who was a world champion, couldn't. do [ __ ] to stop it. He just dragged him. to the ground anytime he wanted to. Got. him in a crucifix like three times. >> Morab against Ali. I mean, >> exactly. Exactly. >> You were watching a guy that does a no.

look right hand knockout punch into a. salute. No look at his opponent, >> right? Get I mean, it's just impossible. It It appears impossible in every Kabib. fight. The thing I always think about. first when I think about Kabib fighting. is him being on top and having his feet. under the other dude's feet, which is. just that's it. It's the final level. when you can't even begin the process of. posturing out in any way. You are.

nothing. You are a tissue in an octagon. with a man. >> and he's wailing on your face. >> He's wailing on your face and he has. your legs triangled underneath his legs. It's always funny when UFC or when. casual UFC fans uh don't understand. those little things like that that. aren't even part of the fight. They're. looking up here waiting to see if the. punches are going to rain down. >> Yeah. >> But the positioning of his feet is what. I'm always looking at and how scary it.

can be here. >> He's not even doing it right. >> He's hell on top of people. He is right. here. >> But that leg being thrown is torture. It's all the weight is. >> nothing you can do. There's just nowhere. to go. And all that weight on those. hips, people don't realize, >> like I notice immediately if I ever see. somebody that's kind of on top and their. knees are on the ground. Like if you. look, his right knee isn't on the. ground. It looks like it might be. >> And look how he keeps slamming those. left hands into Johnson's head. I mean,

he got hit with like 15, 20 unanswered. full force left hand blows. >> Just holding his arms so he can't move, >> bro. He's horrible. He was horrible. He. was so good. Khabib was so good. And he. would do this to world class fighters, man. And by the way, Johnson clipped him. in that fight, too. It was one of the. few times in his career where he got. clipped. >> One that looked really frustrated. Who's. the Who's the one that looked super. frustrated in that? >> Barbosa. >> I'm asking. I don't remember who it was. >> Barbosa was one of them. But I mean, a. lot of guys who fought Kabib look.

frustrated because there's not a damn. thing they could do. Nope. >> Barbosa was like early in the first. round, he had that thousandy yard stare. was like, "Fuck, like I have to go. through three rounds of this where they. just give up on the idea that they can. even win.". >> Yeah. >> Like all you're doing is trying to. survive. >> Yeah. >> He was a monster, dude. >> Like that. His leg being trapped is. nuts. And look how he's scooting with it. >> and he's just slamming punches. And you. get up, he's just chasing you. >> I got the gun right back down. I. thought, >> but if you get up, he's just gonna.

[ __ ] chase you and drag you to the. ground again. So, you blew all that. energy to get up. The moment you try to. punch or throw a kick, he's on you. You're on your back again. Punch to the. face. Punch to the face. Yeah. Wrestling's giant. It is the the biggest. skill. >> Yeah. >> You have to know how to do everything. else, too, nowadays, cuz all these kids. that like you see in the Contender. Series, these young guys coming up, man, they're all so [ __ ] talented. He tried to wheel kick them. And really. more than anything, I feel. [clears throat] like wrestling, being.

out wrestled and being just trapped on. the ground is so psychologically. demoralizing when you've been training. for a UFC fight and the crowd is out. there and the lights are on you and you. see the logos on the mat cuz you're. facing it. >> Back that up a little bit. Let me show. you something here too. What's What's. interesting here before that before the. clinch. So after he throws the wheel. kick like Barbos is trying to win, right? This is the third round. He's. trying to win and he throws this W. But. look, no, go before that. When he throws. the kick, here it is. So, he throws the.

kick and misses. He's so tired now that. when Khabib moves for him, he clinches. Look, he instigated the clinch. Instead. of pushing away, instead of circling to. his left, he clinched cuz he's so tired, dude. He's so tired. And this dude just. Look at that face. >> He just drags him down to the ground. again. >> Twoon one on that arm underneath him, >> weights being thrown in. He doesn't know. what to do with his legs. He actually. just put his foot above Kabib because. it's so confusing. All that weight on.

you. You don't know where to even begin. to start getting up. >> Well, he's the first thing he's got to. do is get that left leg free. And he's. not going to. >> That was the part before the crawling. thing. >> He's a He was a monster. He was a. monster. >> and retired undefeated. >> Yeah. And there's something to being on. that mat, not being able to move, knowing that the clock is ticking, and. this is not how you picture this going. >> Not only that, this is with the current. rules where I think there should be no. stand-ups. I think the only time there.

should be a stand up is when there's a. foul. >> Yeah, I completely agree with you. I. hate it when they stand people up. >> Even if it's boring. I get it's boring, but the guy can't get up and this guy's. holding him down. So, he's winning. Yes, he's winning. See, I know he's not doing. enough. What does that mean? He's biting. his time. You've got to let a guy have. strategy. Like when Muhammad Ali did. rope a dope against George Foreman, imagine if the referee's like, "You've. got to punch back if you don't punch. back." No, he's he's got a strategy. Strategy is let George Foreman burn.

himself out and then eventually tee off. on him. And that's what he did. >> Yeah. It stinks that referees can let. the crowd get in their head. [snorts]. >> Well, it's the the organization wants. action, too. The fans want action. A lot. of people disagree with me and I. understand their point. I understand. their point. Especially if you're a. casual like it's gay. Get them up. Make. them [clears throat] fight. They don't. want to fight. They want to hug. Boo. Right. >> So what? So what? This is the sport. And. if that guy who's on top, who's biting.

his time and recovering, then decides, okay, now's the time. Let me start. dropping some bombs because I've. recovered. >> Good. Well, he held the position and he. recovered his energy and now he's. winning. Like, let him [ __ ] fight. LET HIM FIGHT. GET OUT OF THERE. GET OUT. of there. >> Yep. >> There shouldn't be stand-ups. >> And I get it. The referee gets that. cheer from the crowd. You know, it feels. rewarding. >> Sometimes when they stand fights up, I. get excited. >> Yeah. >> I go, "Yeah, yeah, >> here we go. >> That striker has a chance.".

>> But my position is still the same. I. don't think they should stand him up. I'm worse than that. I think they should. start each round where they lost the. last round. >> Oh, I love that. >> That's great. >> So, every round, why do you get to stand. up? Why do you get that advantage that a. striker gets of standing up when you. didn't earn it? >> Get back down there. >> Yeah, >> get back down there. Crucifix. Why' you. have to start the round off in a. crucifix? >> Yeah, that's how the end round ended. They look at the big screen, get a. freeze frame of the position, referee. sets you in the exact position and says,

"Ready, fight.". >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I love that. >> Yeah. [ __ ] off. That's what the sport is. supposed to be. And sometimes it's going. to be boring. Yeah. But that's real. though. At least it's real cuz there's. been a lot of fights where the guy got. taken down in the first round, starts. out the second round, and blasts the guy. and knocks him out. And it's like, okay, it's exciting to watch, but he didn't. earn that position. He just got that. position because the other guy survived. the first round. And so it's like, it's. one fight. It's not five fights,

>> right? So, I think it should be one. continuous fight with a one minute break. in each round. >> Yeah. That'd be like if the team losing. automatically got the kickoff after. halftime or something like that. >> Yeah. And look, guaranteed if uh I was. running the UFC, it would probably go. bankrupt. I'm not the right guy. [laughter]. I don't know what the [ __ ] I'm talking. about. I'd be a terrible promoter. I'd be too honest about stuff. And I'd. want to give people fights that maybe. they weren't the most exciting fighters, but they were above the other person in.

the rankings. >> I I think the rankings should be the. whole reason why you make fights. [snorts]. >> Sami Zayn won the Universal WWE. Championship over this weekend at a big. pay-per-view. >> I have no idea who that is, but I'm. happy for him. >> Shocked Cody Rhodess, >> who was it who was like a guaranteed. win. >> I wonder what happened. >> Rolled him up real quick. >> Do you think maybe that was fixed? Well, it was very entertaining. [laughter]. Very entertaining. >> I'm sure it was. I just don't understand. how you go back and forth.

>> Oh, it's the best. >> I know you love it. >> Well, sometimes that's what I said about. this White House card, by the way, is. like. [clears throat and cough]. there's nothing that could have happened. that they could have written, if it was. written, that would have made it more. exciting, >> right? >> It felt real the whole time. and the. fights that happened before made it feel. like anything could happen in that main. event. Like it just felt raw and real, but also storyline, which then when UFC.

is at its best like that, it's like the. WWE. >> That's what's interesting. Of course, it's not as, you know, uh acrobatic. Exactly. But it is it was a special. moment. You know, it was a regardless of. how you feel politically and I. understand it. >> if you're if you hate the Republicans. and you hate the whole idea, I get it. But just as a person who loves a sport, it was a very unusual experience. Very.

unusual. And just I think people have to. just look at some things that way. You. know, some people have a really hard. time separating themselves politically. because they're going, "Oh, no." That. the White House puts on this thing. There's all this bad press because of. the war. There's bad press because of. this and that. And they put on this. thing at the White House and it sort of. like. >> MAGA washes everything. You know what I. mean? Makes everybody like them again. Gives them positive press which. undeniable. Undeniable. It gave them. positive press. >> I mean, the amount of people that have.

seen it is nuts. You know, I think just. on Paramount, it's something like 30. something million now. And you know they. were telling me that they thought it was. probably 150 million people had watched. it in some form. >> which was uh you know Tik Tok clips, Instagram, YouTube. But that is a nutty. number man. And I think Dana and Hunter. they were thinking it could get to like. a billion people see it. >> which is just nuts. >> Yeah. >> In some form you know highlight reels. clips. I mean just the Gachi fight alone.

just the highlight reels. How many. people watch those on Instagram and Tik. Tok and. >> totally. >> the awareness of the event of the moment. was so huge. It was like nothing else. Like it didn't feel like any other event. we had ever like I was nervous before it. started. >> Yeah. >> Like I never get nervous for the UFC. I. get excited but I was like legitimately. nervous. I was like I was feeling like a. little like this is crazy. Like we're on. the White House lawn. >> No. The fly over is when it really hit. >> Yeah. Well, when they had all those jets.

together and they're so close to each. other, like imagine if one of those. [ __ ] clips into their wing and. spirals right into the ellipse. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Crazy. What a spectacle. >> Yeah. They would have definitely. canceled the fights cuz think they they. canled the White House correspondents. dinner because of that assassination. attack. >> God damn it. >> Oh, you had a bunch of bangers on that, I heard. >> Yeah. [laughter] So annoying. I was more. excited for that than like anything. >> How do they just cancel it? Why didn't. they reschedu it? Maybe they're going to.

wait until the ballroom's finished. Cuz. that's the argument for the ballroom. that they could have it at a place like. that where it's completely secured. >> Yeah. >> Kurt Mascer thinks the whole thing is. fake. >> Uh. >> oh. Another f another fake assassination. attempt. >> Yeah. >> How'd that guy get in there? >> Yeah. >> How that Well, I think some people are. just incompetent. >> There's incompetence. There's bad. security. There's uh people that don't. do their job. And there's also people. that you didn't expect to be a problem. and were a problem and you're in a. hotel.

>> Also, the guy made it to the first level. of the first scanning of security. It's. not like he made it into the thing, >> but he did shoot somebody, right? >> I. >> I think he shot one of the Secret. Service agents in his bulletproof vest. >> Yeah. >> Is that true, Jamie? >> I think so. >> See, there were so many stories online, it's so hard to know what was true and. what was not. But I think the guy was a. teacher, like a substitute teacher. >> Nuts. It's [snorts] all nuts. >> It's like, man, you didn't think this.

out? >> Scheduled it for July 24th. >> Okay. Okay. >> The correspondence dinner. >> Yep. >> Wow. I did not know that, >> son. You might want to polish up some of. them bits. >> Yeah, [laughter] it's going to be some. new stuff. >> Go back and tag some of them with. [snorts] some current events. Where are. they going to have it? >> Uh, sorry, I sorted it. If they have it at the same spot, that's. not smart. [laughter]. >> New event held July 24th.

>> It's not saying where. >> is at the Pentagon. >> They might wait. They might wait to. release that. >> Yeah, it's not saying. Oh, uh, Waldolf, excuse me, Waldorf Atoria. >> Oh, okay. Well, I guarantee you they'll. tighten that [ __ ] up a little bit. >> Oh, yeah. I know he was excited to do. the jokes. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. >> No, he was he was very pumped. >> Yeah, they were bangers. I ran them um. because the thing happened. I happened.

to be performing at the Kennedy Center. the ne that weekend, the next weekend. So, I ran the jokes and I realized that. I had Adam Ray as a special guest that. was on before me. He brought me on. stage. So, I [clears throat] go, you. know what? Even I wrote jokes for the. president of the United States to make. fun of the press and everybody at the. White House correspondents dinner, but I. just realized Adam's here. Adam, you. want to come out and read these in. Trump's voice? >> And so he was seeing the jokes for the.

first time and reading them and we had. so much fun. >> I didn't know he does a Trump, which. doesn't surprise me. I mean, his. impressions are insane. >> He can do anything, dude. >> Yeah, he can do anybody. He didn't even. he didn't he was dabbling in a Biden the. week that I hit him up to do Trump Biden. which I think is a [ __ ] god [snorts]. I think it's like 40 million or seven. some crazy amount and again just like. the UFC God only knows after clips but. it was a monumental comedy [ __ ]. moment having Shane as Trumpction Adam.

is Biden right before the election right. after their first debate where Biden was. clearly [ __ ] zonked and sleepy and. and just couldn't compete at all. And so. I hit up Adam via text. I'm like, "Do. you have a Biden?" He's like, "I cover. it for five seconds in a in my standup. I'm like, uh, are you free on Monday to. fly to Austin and do Biden if I can get. Shane as Trump?" And I remember telling. Shane, like I'm like, "This is going to.

be an interesting ask." Uh, but I, you. know, I'm just like, "Hey, Adam's got a. Biden." And Shane's like, "I have. something to do on Monday. I'm. cancelling it. I'm doing Trump." He. immediately saw The Brilliance. It was. just such a hot topic at the time. And. my god, it was [ __ ] crazy. There's. clips that I see of that episode and I. never rewatch Kill Tony's or anything. I'll see clips sometimes and I literally. go, "Oh my god, holy [ __ ] shit.". There's one part where Trump goes, "How.

many more retards are you going to bring. out here?" because there had been like. two handicapped people on the show. All. right, how many more retards you have. come? As I'm pulling a name out of the. bucket in real time, I go, "Anything can. happen, Mr. President. Let's see if what. the next guy's like." And he comes out. and he has like these weird deformed. penguin [laughter] arms. >> Oh god. >> And you see Shane as Trump and the. crowd's dying because they see him first. and you see Shane as Trump look and go, "Fuck." It's [laughter] just one of his.

his rea facial reactions to things are. like his greatest secret [ __ ]. hilarious weapon. And when he's Trump, it's even amplified. It's like in my. opinion 10 or 20% funnier than even. Shane is. I mean, I'm sure he'd admit to. this and know it cuz Trump is just such. an interesting, polarizing character. And his take on him is so [ __ ] funny. It's psychotic. >> His impression so good. It's the. greatest Trump impression of all time. cuz it's like the jokes are so good. >> Oh, by far. He's so What's What's funny?

>> Found the part. [snorts]. >> So epic. >> Back it up a little bit. >> Another fun appearance by True Nickens. >> This is the best. [applause]. >> All right, >> Tony. How many more [ __ ] guys do you. have back here? >> Anything can happen. >> This crowd is hungry for more [ __ ]. guys. Frankly, I don't think we've seen. enough [ __ ] guys. How about a. [ __ ] racist? Would you like to. >> This next person could be one. I pulled. it out of the bucket. It is the Kill.

Tony debut, I do believe, of Jacob Bar, everybody. Jacob Bar. [laughter]. >> Oh my god. >> Thank you. >> Well, well, well. [laughter]. >> Oh my god. Okay. >> Careful what you wish for. >> Okay, hold on. We're gonna reset this. Jacob, >> what's funny is is Adam knows better. than anybody that you're not supposed to. say anything after the bucket bull comes. up. So me grabbing the mic out of his.

hand and putting it down is even another. layer of hilarious to all of us. It's. like Biden's misbehaving. [laughter]. >> I don't know. Did you see Shane's face. when he notices his hands? >> I didn't even look. [laughter]. >> And then. [ __ ]. He's our Jackie Gleason. [laughter]. >> Oh yeah, without a doubt. >> That's what it is. >> Plus plus, man. >> He's the great one of the generation. >> What people don't realize, I I mean,

obviously, is that he is that funny all. the [ __ ] time. >> All the time when we're hanging out in. the green room, >> every bar, every restaurant, every green. room, every every stairway, [ __ ]. anywhere, everything. He I always. compare it to Mike Tyson in his prime. He just hits harder and different doing. the smallest little things. Even if it's. a face, if somebody says something and. he just like reacts to it, it's crazy. >> It's also always fun.

>> He's a fun guy. Like he wants to have. fun. Like even when he's cracking jokes, it's fun. >> Well, >> I know he was very reluctant to do the. roast, you know. He was a little. reluctant to even host that. Like I. don't want I don't want to do those. things. >> Yeah. you know, but. >> well, everything is, you know, everything could be something. He. crushed so hard. It caused a real. ruckus. Him and I end capping that. thing. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. >> It was supposed to be a, you know, this. roast of black excellence and me and.

Shane are just [ __ ] having the time. of our lives. He got. >> Who said it was a roast of black. excellence? You're just saying that. because it was Kevin Hart. >> Well, yeah, that's that's like that was. >> It wasn't like explicitly stated or. anything, right? M. >> I mean. >> cuz imagine if you said you we're going. to have a roast of white excellence, >> right? Exactly. No, I know. >> Crazy. >> Oh yeah. >> It's weird where you can and can't say. >> Oh yeah. >> That's weird. >> Oh yeah. >> You know. >> Yeah. It's a whole thing with that. I. mean [laughter]. >> you can't talk about this, but you can.

talk about that. >> Well, it's just weird what we accept, which like doesn't bother me at all, but. like Kane Velasquez when he fought in. the UFC, he used to have brown pride. tattooed on his chest. Cool. whose. family came over from Mexico. They they. literally walked here. >> Yeah. >> White pride not so popular, >> right? >> White pride on your chest. You know, [ __ ] Sean Strickland just decided to. get white pride [laughter]. and he posted a picture on Instagram of. him as a world champion with white pride.

on his chest next to Cain Velasquez as a. world champion with brown pride on his. chest. >> Yeah. >> And people would lose their [ __ ]. minds. Yes. >> And again, not saying that Shawn would. ever put white pride on his chest. >> He would. No, he would. I follow him. He. >> doesn't have any tattoos. >> I follow him on Twitter. He would. Trust. me. >> He's a wild boy. >> He did get a temporary tattoo. >> He showed up at the UFC even though he. was banned. He showed up and they. arrested him. >> Yeah. [laughter].

They kicked him out. He's the world. champion. There's a UFC event at the. White House at the time before Justin. won. He was the only American world. champion. And they're like, "You can't. come.". >> Yeah. >> Because you talk too much [ __ ] about. Israel. >> Mhm. He's a wild boy. >> But that's wild that your criticism. about Israel is what keeps you from. going to the White House as a world. champion in a a world title fights at. the White House.

>> Yeah. >> Like you think you would want to. celebrate the American male world. champion. >> I think he said some other stuff too. though. >> Yeah. Epstein stuff there. >> Yeah. >> Said he's a wild boy. >> Yeah. >> I think he's. >> I told him when he retires from. fighting, he 100% should do a podcast. And he was like, I you know. seen these guys doing these streamers. and like I go, you don't have to do. that, right? >> You don't have to do it that way. He's. like, I couldn't do that. Just sit there. every day and talk to people for hours. I'd lose my [ __ ] mind. I'm like, right, but you don't have to do that.

Just your opinions on things. Like he's. an awesome podcast guest, >> you know? I'm like, he could totally. totally do that. Just talk about stuff. And also. Sean when he lets the the whole stick. down and just gives you his opinions on. things. Very smart guy. Yeah. >> He's not stupid at all. And he would get. better at it, you know, as he did it. more. He easily could do a podcast. >> Yeah. He's entertaining as [ __ ]. >> I just can't believe they kicked him out. of the White House. And that is they.

kicked him out of the ellipse that area. There's I think there's video of it. See. if you can find the video of it. Like, sorry guys. Like they got like [ __ ]. six six cops and bulletproof vests. >> Yeah. I think there was like 85,000. people there. So, it's funny that. they're like that one the champion. >> It's just he wasn't supposed to be. there. He was banned. He was not invited. or whatever. But even if you're not. invited, shouldn't you be able to go to. the fan area if you're the world. champion? If you want to be that wild. with no security and there's video of.

him from the first night from the night. of the weigh-ins where they found out. that he was there. It's amazing because. he was wearing a hoodie the entire time. and someone told him he's got to take. off the hoodie and he's like I can't. listen. It's going to be a problem and. as soon as he takes off the hoodie. everybody goes it's [ __ ] strong. [screaming] and then he's just. surrounded by bros. >> Hilarious. >> Just getting hugged to death. He asked. some dude uh some dude asked him to leg. kick him. A Sean leg kick some kid. [laughter]. >> Crazy.

>> World champion [ __ ] kicking some kid. What is this world coming to? >> There's starting to be some. >> It's him. Is it Is there uh audio? [cheering]. [cheering]. >> This is crazy. I like that we have some entertaining. American uh. >> Oh, he's the most entertaining. >> that Josh uh Hoit Hocket.

>> Hoit. >> Hoit. >> Yeah. >> My god, he is. >> That was what was hilarious was people. were so upset that he said Michelle. Obama's a man at the White House. >> It's like that's what he's doing. He's. doing that on purpose. Like he's. literally wearing an American flag. bandana. He comes out to a Hulk Hogan. song. >> He's wearing sunglasses. >> during Yeah. It's not appropriate. You're right. >> Yep. >> Right. But he said the exact same thing. when I interviewed him somewhere else. >> Yeah.

>> He said I I'm pretty sure he said. Michelle Obama's a man like last time I. interviewed him. >> That's what I heard is that it's not the. his first rodeo at the Michelle Obama is. a man. >> That's how he ends his interviews. [laughter]. >> Hilarious. >> He's trying to get people to talk about. him. >> Yep. >> You know, it's the whole thing is so. crazy. But all of it would be nothing if. he couldn't fight. Exactly. That's what. that's where it's real exciting is the. pre-fight stuff. I mean, the post-fight. interview pretty polarizing obviously.

because that was the news. But if you. for the real fans paying attention, did. you didn't get to see him do that? Did I. send it to you? The kill Tony minute. that he did at the press conference. Oh. my god. So [snorts] funny cuz he's like. purposefully bombing. >> So he's literally doing a joke. He's he. says, "You guys know Tony Hinchcliffe? I'm going to do my Kill Tony minute.". and he's purposefully like bombing. It's. corny, purposeful, bad jokes. And he's. going, "Man, tough crowd. All right, let. me let me try this one." And it's like. [laughter]. literally being hilarious.

by strategically. trying to be funny, but not being funny. You could tell that he was planning on. nobody laughing, but that it's setup. punch. And he's just [ __ ] try. He's. just trying to entertain, which is. >> he's trolling. >> He's trolling. He's getting attention. >> And then the most important thing, he. can fight. >> Yeah, >> that dude's good. >> He's [ __ ] good, man. He's fast as. [ __ ] for a heavyweight. He's very light. on his feet, fast as [ __ ] fast hands.

>> Yeah. So fun to watch. >> And you know what's interesting is uh he. talked a lot of [ __ ] about Alex Pereira. and you know, I want a shyama on your. mama, all that crazy [ __ ]. >> Um Pereira losing to serial gone. Pereira decides to fight again. I don't. know if he's going to fight again. He. might be done. I think he said he might. be done, but I mean a lot of fighters. say that after a fight and especially. after a loss. >> Yeah. >> Let him sit around for a while. Then. they come up with. >> he's not done. >> They back up the Brinks truck. Get him.

versus Josh Hoit. >> Oh god. >> As a co-main event on a [ __ ] banging. New Year's Eve card. >> Oh yeah. >> Let's go. >> Hit will be making fun of his headdress. and his face makeup. Oh, it would be. insane. It would be insane. But, you. know, the thing is Hok's got to deal. with that guy. >> That's a different guy. That's not. Derrick Lewis. >> I mean, if he continues to fight. heavyweight, it is interesting watching. a guy who's been so dominant at 85 and. at 205 with that all that extra weight.

on. I don't know if that necessarily was. the right move, you know? I mean, I. think like some weight is probably good, but maybe even 20 lbs lighter. Like. maybe 230 something. Maybe that would be. a better weight if he really wants to. fight at heavy weight cuz it seems like. he was carrying I mean just you ever. work out with a weight vest on? >> Yeah, >> it's crazy. >> Yeah. >> Like a 25 lb weight vest. It's nuts how. much harder everything is. So you got to. realize he had fought at 185 and he.

fought at 205. That was what he weighed. in at. But let's be. honest. At 185, I think he probably. weighed 220 something, 226, I think it. was, fight night, which is nuts. It's 40. lbs difference. And at 205, he probably. got into the 230s, like 235, 236, something like that. But still was not. didn't look like he looked at 251. 251. he looked like he was carrying. unnecessary weight, a little bit of it.

at least. And if he was just like 20. pounds lighter, he would still have that. speed and movement, but he's always had. crazy knockout power. It might be a. better weight for just seemed like it. was a lot of weight he had on him, you. know, >> and it all went to his ass. Yeah, >> his ass was giant. >> Fat ass. >> Big fat ass. >> You know me, you know that's all I'm. [laughter] looking at. That's why I. watch UFC. And uh yeah, it was all. there. >> It was like a backpack. >> Well, that's where all the power comes. from. You know, when you're pushing off. your feet and you know, you're pushing.

off those [ __ ] quads and pushing into. those glutes and then torquing that body. the way he does. >> Ferocious power, dude. >> But damn, that serial gone's good. Woo. >> Yeah, >> he's so good, dude. And he's in his. prime right now. Sir Gan is like really. coming into his own. >> There's no heavyweight like him. No one. moves like him. >> Yeah, I was going to say extremely. accurate for a heavyweight. >> Not just accurate, agile. Yeah, >> cuz uh we were talking about this the. other day that basketball is a great. place to start if you're a big athlete.

and you want to learn combat sports, especially striking because think about. how many direction changes basketball. players take where they're always kind. of doing that. They're always spinning. and moving. It's a series of. plyometrics. It's a series of hops and. jumps like Jordan's jump. Imagine if. Jordan had a flying knee, right? >> Right. He's [ __ ] [laughter]. >> He's hit you with a flying knee from 14. feet away. Yeah. >> What do you got? >> Basketball. >> What's that? >> Playing basketball. [clears throat].

>> It's interesting because uh. >> Oh, serial guns are Yeah. So, he started. out playing basketball. >> At least where I come from. Basketball. season and foot uh wrestling season are. at the same time. So, I wonder what he. was doing back then. >> Well, he's in France, right? So, France. does not have wrestling. >> in their high school or in their. college, you know? and he learned. wrestling after he had become a really. elite worldclass Muay Thai fighter. So, he's got the the the grappling is come. up in big ways. Like his grappling is.

much better than it used to be. But. really, primarily he's a striker and. when John fought him like Jon just got. him to the ground and submitted him like. quickly. It's like the different I think. in that fight was kind of a big ass. wakeup call and Francis beat him too. So. Francis beat him by just Francis just. got a hold of him and most of the fight. was on the ground. A giant chunk of it. because Francis fought that fight with a. blown out ACL. >> Wow. >> Defended his world title with a blown. out ACL.

>> Crazy. >> Had big ass knee pads on. O. >> I know. Wobbly ass knee. But that's how. dangerous Francis is. >> Yeah. >> He could just win it with grappling. It's It's a shame that he's not in the. UFC. It's a real shame. >> Yeah. Because like that whole thing was. what drove everyone crazy about boxing, you know, that it was really hard to get. these guys together, >> you know, and this was the whole idea. why everybody was excited about what. Riad season was doing and uh Turkey. alashshek and you know all those people.

that put together these big ass fights. like Tyson Fury and Alexander Usyk and. the last one they just did Rico Verhu. and Usyk like they're putting together. these big crazy fights Like you that was. the thing that drove everybody nuts. about boxing and that's what drives. everybody nuts about MMA. The one thing. is it's the heavyweight division. The. fact that the best heavyweight or at. least the guy who was the lineal. heavyweight champion in the world isn't. even fighting for the UFC. That's crazy. It's crazy. >> Yeah. Who knows? Maybe one day, right?

>> Nope. >> I don't think so. I tried to make it. happen. >> Damn. >> Yeah. I think we need to get those dudes. together. Look at that. Look at dunking. That's crazy. >> I know. See, that kind of ability to. throw your body around like that is so. huge as a striker. Yeah. >> Because a lot of those guys are. plotting, you know, they're plotters. They just kind of like wobble through. >> I think what they need to do is get. Francis and the UFC together. They all. do mushrooms. >> Yeah. >> Just like make friends. >> Yeah.

>> Because he doesn't have much time left. I think Francis is 38. Is that how old. he is? I think he's 38, which is different as a. heavyweight. Heavyweights have turns 40. in September. Whoa. Not much time left, >> right? >> 40 you can do. But unless you're Bernard. Hopkins, fighting at a world class level. in your 40s kind of unheard of. >> I remember when France when uh Bernard. Hopkins fought Kelly Pavick, a lot of. people did not think that he had a.

chance. >> Oh yeah, I remember it very clearly. >> And he outboxed the [ __ ] out of Kelly. Pav. He looked so good. >> Truly the executioner. I want to say he. was in his 40s when that happened. >> I think so. >> How old was Bernard Hopkins when he. fought Kelly Pavick? >> He fought at a world class level until. he's 50 years old. >> Yeah. >> Nuts. >> Yeah. Nuts. >> We were all watching that one. Everybody. from Youngstown going, "All right, this. is it. We're going to get back on the. right path." Because it was after his. loss to uh Margarita, is that right?

Who's the guy that got caught with the. cement in his gloves against the one guy. Antonio Margarito? I do believe. >> 43. >> Wow. He was 43 years old. >> Wow. >> Crazy. >> Against a 26y old. >> Crazy. Especially at 170 lbs. Like. nobody thinks at that weight that you. you can be competitive at a world class. level into your 40s. Most of the time. like people just write you off on that.

number. Yeah, >> they don't even care what you look like. Like he's not going to be able to do it. >> Was he the first one to beat Kelly? Is. that what I just saw? Wow. Okay. So, he. lost to him and then that's where [ __ ]. started to get [ __ ] up cuz then he. went on a a bad run after that. >> Well, when you got beat up like that. >> Yeah. >> It's just tough on the brain, dude. There's only so many of them fights that. you could take. >> Yeah. >> Where you get really beat up like that. Bernard put it on him. >> Mhm. You know, there's [clears throat]. been a a bunch of fights where a fighter.

got beat up really badly and then they. were never the same again. Melick Taylor. versus Julio Cesar Chavez, that's a. great example. Chavez just put it on him. and dropped him in the final moments of. the round and then Richard Steele. stopped it and it was like this crazy. [ __ ] controversy cuz he stopped the. fight with like one second to go in a. fight that Melick was ahead on the. scorecards. But the the real the real. story of that fight was that the damage. that Chavez had put on Melick, Melick.

was never the same again. >> Pavle actually won his next two fights. and then had a bad staff infection. problem. >> Oh wow. So after he beat Sergio So he. was set to fight Paul Williams but to. major staff infection and allergic. reaction some antibiotics nearly killed. him. Whoa. He eventually was able to. fight again against light middleweight. champion Sergio Martinez. >> Oh, Sergio Martinez beat him. >> Martinez beat he beat him. He Martinez. beat him.

>> Yes, sir. >> Um. >> by Yeah. Uh unanimous 12 round decision. Sergio Martinez was a bad [ __ ]. too. >> Yes, he was. >> Yeah. [clears throat]. In late rounds, Martinez came up. Yeah. It's it's a just a crazy sport, man. You. only have so many wars in you. There's. only so many times you could do that. And the really clever guys are the guys. who just don't get hit much. >> I went down a Maidana rabbit hole. recently. Oh my god, that [ __ ] guy's. a freak.

>> Oh, he's an animal. >> What a career. >> Oh, he was an animal. >> Unbelievable. He fought everybody. >> He was one of the few guys to really. rock Floyd Mayweather. Yeah. >> Knocked his tooth out. >> and wore his tooth around a chain. >> Oh, I love that. >> Yeah. He He got Floyd's tooth and wore. it as a piece of See if you can find the. tooth that Maidonna had of Floyd. Look. at that. Look at that. >> Oh my god, that is so cool. >> How hilarious is that? >> That's so funny. >> He had his tooth put on a [ __ ] He. wears Floyd's tooth on a necklace.

>> Wow, [laughter]. that's crazy, >> boy. What a square jawed [ __ ]. that guy is, huh? >> Yeah. >> Look at that jaw. That guy looks like. you could hit him with a baseball bat. He was a tough dude. >> Insane career. I think he fought. everybody. >> The Broner fight, too. He dropped. Broner. That was when Broner was in his. prime. >> Yeah, he was a beast. It's a It's a hard. ass [ __ ] sport. Any combat sport. That is a hard way to make a living.

>> Profitable. >> Do you see all the stuff that's going on. with Floyd? >> Yeah. I I can't wrap my head around it. I don't understand how someone makes. that much money and doesn't pay taxes or. whatever. >> Yeah. Well, I could tell you how you you. run out of money. >> Yeah. >> You know, you you spend so much money on. things. >> You don't Do you think he has a business. manager? [sighs and gasps]. >> Maybe he wasn't looking out for his best. interest. >> I mean, just you got to put somebody in. charge of that amount of money.

>> You would think You would think $750. million would last you a while. Yeah, >> he's I mean he's not even 50. >> You give one guy 5%. >> How old is Floyd now? >> I Yeah. Put some away. >> But the thing is it's like that. lifestyle. His lifestyle was all about. showing you his wealth. His lifestyle. He's 49. Imagine making $750 million and you're. 49. You're broke. >> Oh god.

>> That's crazy. But Tyson talks openly. about how he spent hundreds of millions. of dollars, >> just went through it. >> You know, if you're living that life. where you're just wearing diamonds. everywhere and you're buying crazy. watches and you know, Floyd does these. things. You ever seen way he he'll go. into a hotel room when he's traveling. and he talks about like the watches that. he brought and so he opens up suitcases. with millions of dollars in watches. He. just opens suitcase. You ever seen. these? >> No. >> Find them because they're kind of. hilarious. He's just trying to figure.

out which [clears throat] one he wants. to wear. He brings them all with him. >> Yeah. He's just showing off. He's. showing off that he's got two suitcases. filled with diamond encrusted PC. Philippes and you know. the the the most high-end watches. Look. at this. See if you do you have the. clip? >> Here it [clears throat] is. Look. Play. put some volume on this. Look at this. are always in my [ __ ] business. worried about what I'm doing, what Floyd. is doing, what Floyd ain't doing, what I. do got, what I don't got. Just know.

I'mma stay in my lane. I ain't going to. [ __ ] with nobody. And I don't want. nobody [ __ ] with me. If I go on. vacation, my fault. When I go on. vacation for 30 days, I take 30 watches. with me. [laughter]. >> Look at this. >> But you know what? You know what? What's. crazy is this. if we add 10 more days, I. take 10 more watches. But then I say, "Fuck it. If I want to. bring out the one and only, then I bring.

out the watch that cost $18 million.". >> Oh, Jesus. Matter of fact, you know what I'm going. to do for you [ __ ] haters. today? I'm going to go [ __ ] off $50,000. cuz I ain't got [ __ ] else to do. Money made all [ __ ] day. >> You know what's crazy? >> That's the problem. So that you can only. do for so long. >> Yeah. >> So if you have one $18 million watch. like, okay, let's not get crazy. Let's. not get crazy. You wanted to get it, you. got it. You have $750 million. You have.

one $18 million watch. You can't have. 18 watches. that cost millions of dollars. Like cuz. you're going to need more. You're going. to keep wanting to buy more. You're. going to keep you're going to run out of. money. How many Rolls-Royces do you. have? Okay. Each one of those is a half. a million dollars. You have four or five. of them. H how many Ferraris? You got 10. Ferraris. Okay. What? Some of those Ferraris are almost a. million dollars. You have 10 almost a. million dollar cars. Okay. So, just in.

watches and cars alone, we're looking at. 50 60 million. Okay. And then you have. to make 120 plus to actually have 60. I. don't know if he's leasing them. I don't. know how he's financing things. I don't. know. But. >> I would love to know. >> the real. >> he can make that money back by he can. make the money that he needs back by. literally making a super documentary. about how he spent it. You ever seen. that 30 for30 broke about how the NFL. players all spent their money? >> No.

>> Well, it's unbelievable. One of the. easiest watches ever. [cough and clears throat]. And like it it's I got to be 30 for30's. like biggest production ever. Like it's. everywhere. It's it's just huge. And um. yeah, who the hell doesn't want to know. about that, right? >> And I'm waiting on that Nicholas Cage. dock that I probably nobody's making. either where it's like because he's a. different version of that, you know, about this. >> He went broke. >> Oh, yeah. >> But then he made it back again. >> Well, yeah. He works his ass off. So, he.

went on a He's on a terror. He's just. making movies left and right. And uh. yeah, going from 100. >> he faced severe financial struggles in. the late 2000s, going from $150 million. fortune to being 6 million in debt. Whoa. He never officially filed for. bankruptcy, but he cleared his debts by. relentlessly taking on movie roles, including direct to video films and. selling off extensive real estate and. assets. And. >> I guess he bought like a lot of T-Rex. skulls. Like he spent his money on like.

crazy things. He didn't just go watches. and cars. He would find crazy pieces of. art and like old historical things, I. think. >> Well, he was a movie star from way back. You got to realize like what was his. first film? I think his first film was. like 1980 or something. >> Yeah. >> I remember him being a movie star when I. was in high school. >> Yeah. >> That's a lot of time of being in that. bizarro Hollywood bubble getting your. brain cooked by fame.

>> Yeah. He's one of those you can watch. him do anything like one of those freaks. where even though people will say I. don't like this Nicholas Cage thing, I. don't like that. >> From an article about what he spent his. money on, >> $455,000 for two snakes. [laughter]. [gasps]. >> Okay, so it was $276,000. in 2005, the equivalent of $455,000. today. Thanks inflation. >> How crazy is that?

What's the four? Think about that. $275,000 in 2005 is $455,000 today. >> Damn. >> How fun is inflation? >> Wow. >> What was uh Nicholas Cage's first movie. >> officially? >> Yeah. >> He was in a few things like. unofficially. >> Just that crazy movie with him and. >> Raising Arizona had to be like the first. big hit, right? >> That was a big one. That was a big one. His. new ones are good, too. These wacky.

ones, >> his filmography, if you go all the way. back, 1982, Fast Times at Ridgemont High. >> is Nicholas Copala. >> Valley Girl is what I was thinking of. That was in 83. Yeah. Credit is Nicholas Copela. That's. before he changed his name because he. didn't want to be connected to what is. his uncle Francis Ford Copa. Is that. what it is? >> Valley Girl. So, Valley Girl was 83. So, I was in high school, dude. Arizona. Peggy got married. Those are big, too. >> Big. Those were huge movies, dude.

Raising Arizona is so [ __ ] funny. >> I saw that like a year ago. I forgot. I. forgot how funny it was. Remember Tai. Cob or Tex Cobb was in there? The boxer. with the flatten nose who fought Larry. Holmes. He did a bunch of movies. >> Big white guy. >> Yeah. Big big [ __ ] cornfed white guy. on the motorcycle. >> Yeah. [laughter] Oh yeah. He's great. >> It's a Cohen brothers movie, right? Raising Arizona is. those guys might be the goats. They. might be the goats of comedy. Them and. the brothers.

>> Yep. No doubt. >> See how many amazing hilarious [ __ ]. movies and the Cohen brothers was. They. were always so out there. Everything's. so out there. >> Some of their films are just like what. the [ __ ] are you guys doing? >> Like King was Kingpin Fairley Brothers. >> Yes. >> Those guys too. Like without a doubt. >> [ __ ] that was good. >> Unbelievable. >> [ __ ] That's a funny movie. >> So [ __ ] great. So funny. >> The scene where he's throwing up in the. toilet when she's talking about him. eating [snorts] her [ __ ]. >> to pay his rent. >> Oh my god. [laughter].

Oh, Woody's range is incredible. [snorts]. >> You know what I heard about that movie? That they had primed all the actors to. get really excited when Bill Murray. throws three strikes cuz he had to throw. three strikes in a row. And so they. said, "This might take a while, so we're. going to really need your enthusiasm.". And then Bill Murray actually threw. three strikes in a row first attempt and. everybody went crazy like for real cuz. they were, you know, like they were said. this is not going to happen this way. So.

when he actually did it, everybody went. [ __ ] bananas. >> Nuts. [ __ ] Such a good movie. >> I love it. >> Dude, Woody's a freak, bro. since he's. moved here and goes to kill Tony and. like we hang out and stuff. only after like being making friends. with him. Like I knew he did a lot of. great stuff, but he sneaks up in so many. great things. It's insane. He's in. [ __ ] um what is the Conan Brothers.

one with uh not There Will Be Blood. It. was made at the same time with Javar. Bardm. Oh my god, how am I blanking on. this? It's uh No Country for Old Men. >> Oh, that's right. That's right. >> He's in it. And he's not even They don't. even like promote him on that or. anything. He just comes in the movie. halfway through with all these other. [ __ ] greats and is crushing. >> It's hard to think that that's a Cohen. brothers movie. >> The People versus Larry Flint. He's a. freak of nature. [ __ ]. >> that thing that you sent me the other.

day with him when he was playing LBJ. >> Oh my god, it's so good. I randomly. stumbled across that one. And I'm like, "Oh, I'll fall asleep to this." Woody is. LBJ. And it's one of those movies that. [ __ ] kept me awake because it was so. goddamn good. >> Mesmerizing. >> Super nice guy, too. Like easy to hang. out with. >> Oh my god. The best. >> Very chill with everybody. Just hangs. out when he's in the green room. He's. just like one of us. >> Yeah. >> Normal. >> Yep. >> You know, which is hard to do when. you've been famous that long. Just be. cool. >> Yeah. >> But also, he doesn't have a phone. You.

get a hold of him. You got to get go. through his wife to get a hold of him. He's smart. just insulates him from. himself from all the nonsense. >> Brilliant. >> That's the way to do it. >> Yeah. But I think when you get to like. that level, you kind of have to or. you'll go crazy. >> Yeah. >> You know. >> Yeah. He has this fun. He likes. laughing, sipping his tequila, smoking. his weed. He's got it all figured out. Grows his own weed, makes his own. tequila, eats live food or whatever, and just. laughs and enjoys life.

It's perfect. Yeah, it's nice to know. that people can make it through that. crazy maze. and, you know, you could either go nuts. and buy Tyrannosaurus Rex calls. >> or you could just completely disconnect. from it all and just be yourself. Just. >> just keep keep killing it. >> I know him and Makana have a TV show. that's coming out. >> where they play Brothers, right? >> Yeah. >> I think it's on Apple TV coming out. soon. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. So, um, what's it been like? Like. the the weirdness, the post roast. weirdness. >> I'm always surprised by these things. I'm always surprised that. they last so long that anybody's talking. about it. It's so bizarre. I was. surprised. with the Pang Dang thing. I was. surprised at the Trump thing. And this. one is really surprising cuz with other.

ones they're like, "Ah, there's a time. and a place for jokes like that or this. or that or whatever.". And this is the time and the place for. it is like the roast of Kevin Hart, you. know? I'm going to go for it. >> Yeah. >> And we roasted Kevin, you know? I did a. [ __ ] George Floyd joke in the uh at. the Tom Brady roast and I did a Who's. the white guy that shot people? Um, uh, it's the same fan base as, uh, god.

damn it, the kid that shot people up in. wherever. >> Be a little more specific. [laughter]. >> The white guy shot a couple people, had. a gun at a thing. They made it look like. it was black people, but it was actually. white people that he shot that were. shooting at him or had guns. What's his. name? Has the. >> I have no idea who you're talking about. >> Damn it. David Lucas is friends with. him. Brought him to the club. >> Oh, Kyle Writtenhouse. >> That's it. That's it. >> I did a Kyle Writtenhouse joke. I did. this and then this one, people are.

offended or something. I don't know. And. yeah, if you just watch that clip on my. dismount, it's a crazy clip. But if you. watch the entire flow of the roast set, it's just one last departing joke, which. that's my thing, man. It's like I knew. Earthquake would be standing up on his. feet like he was halfway through my set. you know, h you know, there's standing. O's that are happening during my actual. roast. And on this one, because there. were so many people on it, it was such a.

long big roast, you know, they set you. to an aotted time. So, I'm like, okay, I'm going to do something I don't. normally do and blast off more jokes per. minute than I normally do. Instead of. milking it and getting applause breaks. and things like that, I'm just going to. create a bang bang bang bang bang final. stand of things. And you know what's. funny is that I have something that's. supposed to offend everybody. Like I. don't want you to like 100% of any of my. jokes. I'm not that guy. I'm healish.

I'm a bad guy wrestling fan. Exactly. >> So what's funny [clears throat]. is people got offended about the George. Floyd thing and people a lot of people. said, "Yeah, well Pete Davidson did a. Charlie Kirk joke." And they're. comparing these things from two. different spectrums. But what what they. didn't mention is that I did a Charlie. Kirk joke in my set. So, [ __ ] them. [ __ ]. them. [ __ ] them. [ __ ] them. You know. what I mean? >> Everybody gets them. >> Everybody gets it. Is always my.

>> Everybody gets them jokes. >> Everybody does. I said that Kevin has uh. what quite the fan base. He has more. gunfire at his merch table than Charlie. Kirk. >> Yeah. >> Or whatever. And um. so you know for them to for people to. nitpick that joke and be offended and. it's funny because it was a lot of uh a. lot of comedians a lot of black. comedians were like I'm upset about this. you know they made their videos which is.

just hilarious because they're not on. the roast they're not in attendance at. the roast. >> You you saw Tiffany Hattish. >> the that was the best one. Nobody. handled it better than her. find Tiffany. Hattish getting uh asked questions. Was. it a TMZ thing? >> Yeah. >> About uh the roast cuz she handled it so. perfectly. >> They're trying to They were trying to. bait everybody. >> Of course they were. >> Everybody, even Cheryl Underwood, who. handled it all like a champ. We made. friends before at a Netflix brunch that.

week that was uh for that festival. >> Well, dude, I told you about Cheryl. >> Yeah, she's the [ __ ]. >> She's awesome. Yeah, >> I I worked with Cheryl in like the early. 2000s, I think it was, in Montreal. I. told you she's a monster. >> Yeah. >> She'd go on stage with her purse on just. clutching her purse on stage and murder, dude. >> She would mur here's Listen to Tiffany. >> She We look so good. Do you have like 30. seconds to chat? Really quick. Yeah. >> So, talking about Kevin Hart roast, right? >> Yes. It was so much fun. >> So, Lonnie Love didn't think so. Lonnie.

Love was like, "You know what? It's. exhausting. It's edgy." specifically. about the George Floyd joke. What are. you thinking? Is it just comedy? Should. they have been a little less uh. >> I think it should have been shorter. The. show was too long. >> I mean, I was sitting there the whole. time. I had to pee. Something I didn't. hear the George Floyd joke cuz I had to. pee so bad. >> So, you went to the bathroom with that? >> Yeah. I was a glorified uh seat filler. >> and I was tired. >> Well, also I mean Lonnie and other. people were like, "Oh, maybe it was a. little too racially motivated." What do.

you think as far as like the jokes? Is. this just comedy or are people taking it. too seriously? >> Is this all comedians saying it that. wasn't invited? [laughter]. >> That's the [ __ ] comedian Tiffany. Hattish. >> Bro, that was her version of the Shauna. Ali walkoff kick. >> I love it. I love it, man. You never. forget those people that actually are. answering honestly in real. >> well real comics. And again, it's the.

same thing for 100%. She's not only is. it a fun walk-off home run, but she's. also 100% correct. There's nobody that. was there that was offended. There was. no ruckus there. It's just like. everything else where you leave and you. go, "Huh, this thing's this thing's kind. of crazily taking off, it seems." A lot. of people are talking about that one. joke at the end. It's so weird. Well, we. live in an outrage culture and an.

outrage there there's a there's money in. outrage. There's engagement in outrage. Outrage is the it's the commodity that. everybody wants. Yeah. >> They want to be outraged. Yeah. >> And they want to be right. And if you're. outraged and you've got a good point, you just ride that [ __ ] thing for as. much juice as you can get out of it and. then you move on to the next thing. >> Yep. >> What are you mad at now? it. You know, >> there's never in any of these things, there's never a moment where I'm like, "Okay, this could cause a problem." It. was, it's never been that way. >> Wild. It was high fives.

>> High fives and laughter after my 300. p.m. set in a half-filled Madison Square. Garden waiting for the 8:00 p.m. arrival. of Trump to speak. I'm, you know, on a. 34 person lineup. Everyone was thrilled. Way to get the crowd going. I mean, it's. you're just getting the party started. The lights were up. Like, it obviously. wasn't the best position for me on that. lineup, but the same exact thing. And. then it's like a little bit later, you. realize like, oh, they're making a news.

story about the Puerto Rico joke of all. things. So interesting. >> I told you that joke was going to be a. problem. [laughter]. >> I would have never told you to do that. joke during that, but I told you that. was going to be a problem in your ad. >> It wasn't supposed to be in my original. thing for that. was a last second filler. because they gave me more time than. everybody. It was a very bizarre thing. They gave me more time for every bizarre. thing. >> First of all, the idea that you would go. on after someone like who went on before. you, Steven Miller? >> No, not it was the national anthem with.

a guy painting a uh painting of things. Actually, no. He went on after me. I. went on right after the national anthem, >> but someone had some kind of like rahrh. speech. Make America great again. >> I wish there was. That all came like way. after [clears throat] which is crazy. They just had me on the wrong position. on the thing and uh yeah, >> you should only do standup where people. are doing standup. >> Totally. Totally. >> It doesn't work. >> Totally. >> It's like But you got to say, >> but then again, it did it did work in.

house. The place isn't miked for sure. standup comedy or lit for standup or. anything like it. >> No, they were laughing. >> They were having a good old time. Well, they're probably happy that something. wasn't stiff and boring, you know, like. taxes and [ __ ]. tariffs. >> I mean, Rudy Giuliani went on like 3. hours after me. >> That's crazy. [snorts]. >> Yeah, it was a nuts all day. It was a. super long thing. My point being is that. it always surprises me that I'm the news. even though I'm because if someone else.

said it, if it was a politician that did. it or someone else, someone high up in. the administration, that would make. sense. Same thing with the roast. If it. was a clean comedian, right? If Nate. Bargotsi or Jim Gaffigan were on it and. they said that, that's crazy. Me saying. it, that's normal. >> They don't know that, though. See, the. thing is it's like you've achieved a. level of fame that like really snuck up. on people over the last couple years, you know? It's because the rise of Kill.

Tony has been completely organic. Like. there's been no promotion of Kill Tony. that made it become what it is. It's all. just people sharing it on YouTube, sharing it online. That's all it is. clips and these moments, you know, and. then, you know, obviously the Shane. moments and all the Kyle Dunigan. It's. been just so many amazing moments. It's. such a good show. It came organically. And then you got to this point over the. last couple years of like, "Oh, we got.

to pay attention to this [ __ ] guy.". And then [snorts] we had a and then. after they started attacking you from. the White House thing or the uh Madison. Square Garden thing rather, which was. 2024, then it was on then it's on like. Donkey Kong, right? So that's two years. later. So now you're a guy that they go. to like to get mad at. And there's a. bunch of people like that online that. that's their business. Their business is. people are mad at them. They have hot. takes. People are mad at them. >> Yeah. >> I mean that's So you you've fallen into. that category. And so there's going to.

be people that genuinely don't like what. you did and don't like you. And then. there's going to be people that are just. using it as a commodity. They're just. using it as outrage, which is part of. what the game is. You know, this this is. what they do. and their engagement, you. know, [ __ ] game that they play. And. it's kind of what we do in the joke. game. Yeah. You know, you get. engagement. You get people to laugh. They You say outrageous things that you. don't even really mean, but it's because. it's a funny thing to say. It's just. like I always say, Bob Marley didn't.

really shoot the sheriff. You know that, right? >> Right. >> It's [laughter] like it's just jokes. >> Exactly. >> Like when you say inappropriate [ __ ] on. purpose and that is like everybody used. to know that. Like Louis CK was a very. left-wing progressive guy when he was. saying really [ __ ] up things that he. didn't mean on purpose because they were. funny. >> Yeah. Like that was what he did and. everybody was fine with it until. somewhere around it seems like it was. like 2016 200 like it started to turn a.

corner where it became like people are. starting to take these things as. statements rather than as comedy. material. >> and they started trying to pretend that. the person really means this like that's. where it got crazy and that happened. around the time where social media. really came into prominence Because. before that there was no real avenue to. do that. There's no real avenue to. pretend you were really deeply upset. >> Yeah. >> I mean, I'm sure there's some people. that were upset, but there's also a lot.

of like people that are just ill. They're online all the time on these. social media apps just arguing and and. spitting out venom and yelling at people. and they yell at them. It's like they're. in hell all day long. And anytime. something comes along, they could be. upset at they got to they have to have. their take. They have to have that hot. take. >> Yeah. And if their hot take gets. engagement, they're all looking at their. likes. Then they just start re-engaging. with that subject and going back on it. And this is the real problem. Okay. >> Good luck with that. That's bad for your.

head, kid. >> Right. Exactly. >> Very bad for your head. All those people. that I know that are like especially. comics that are doing it, the comics. that are doing it, almost all of them. don't have good careers. No, all of. them, right? None of them have like. impressive care, especially compared to. their contemporaries that are doing. well. And then on top of it, they're all. mentally ill. They're all people that. are [ __ ] filled up with. pharmaceuticals and they're going to. therapy. They're they're like literally. mentally ill and they're online talking. about fascists, >> right? >> You know, like stop. Like get your [ __ ].

together. No one your opinion is not. that valuable to people because they. know that you're [ __ ] up. Do you not. understand that? >> Right? >> Like the way you view the world is is. it's not a healthy balanced perspective. like you're viewing the world in this. like mentally ill lens. >> Well, the whole online thing doesn't it. doesn't even convert to sold tickets or. a bigger thing. It it's such a temporary. drug for them to get to fill this void. of what they're not doing,

>> right? It doesn't convert to them people. wanting to go see them. No, I mean some. people maybe they get like a little. juice out of it, but it's not enough. because you're also opening the door. If. you do become popular, you have to. understand that if you've been spitting. hate at people for a decade and then you. become popular, boy, that hate's coming. your way. >> Oh yeah, >> it's coming your way, you know. And I. mean, this is one of the things that I. said after the Mensia stuff. I said, even though I think it was the right. thing to do, I wouldn't do it again. because it's just too much.

>> Yeah. >> It's just too much. You just you create. all you just feel the darkness of it all. the negative. It's all negative. It's. all negative. Even if though it had to. be done because you've got this guy with. it. It showed me how completely. absent of morals and ethics the business. is completely absent, >> right? >> They knew what he was doing and they did. not care. They didn't care because they. were profiting from it. This is the. conversation that I had with my agent. when they were dumping me. >> I said I I told them, I go, "You're.

making a mistake right now that's going. to affect the rest of your life. You. have to understand the choice that. you're making. you're choosing to align. with someone who in any other industry. that person would be in jail, >> right? >> If that person was and also if this was. in literature or if this was in music, they would be sued into high heaven. Like there's songs that like they don't. even seem like they're that close to. each other and people had to give like. songwriting credits to it. >> Yeah. Oh yeah. like songs like people.

get inspired by certain songs and then. they write a song that sounds close. enough that there's a rhythm to it that. people get upset. >> Well, there's only so many notes and so. many chords and there's only so many. beats and so much timing. And it's often. the same thing with comedy. Like there's. some crossovers in a writer's room, which I've been in so many of. So many. people writing on the same subject will. have the same joke. Uh it's only when.

it's like what Mensia was doing word for. word long form. Well, that was a. different thing. What he's he was a. buccaneer. That was a totally different. thing. But there's songs like, okay, so. I was listening to this video the other. day or watching this video the other day. rather that was comparing um Radio. Head's Creep to an older song and they. had to give Creep uh Radio Head rather. had to give this older song writing. credits for this which sounds so.

different. And then Radio Head accused. Lana Del Rey or someone from their. organization accused Lana Del Rey of. having a song that ripped off Creep. >> or was sounded too much like creep. And. it did sound a little like creep, but it. was very different. Like it should be. obviously this is like inspired by it, right? If that's the like Elvis. Presley's entire career was inspired by. black musicians. >> like the way he danced and moved and the. way he sang. So it's like what are we.

doing? Like there's stealing and then. there's inspired by. Inspired by is what. we were all doing. It's like we were. talking about that computer earlier, that chip manufacturing thing. That. thing was built on the back of all the. [ __ ] super wizard geniuses that have. been working on all the different. technology that led to that being. You. can't just invent that in a vacuum. You. have to invent that on all these other. inventions that have taken place for. decades before you. >> Right? This is the It's like with music.

It's interesting how ligious they are. >> Maybe it's because they're run by a. certain group of people. Totally. >> But they're so good at like suing. people. Like uh Bittersweet Symphony. You remember that song? >> Oh yeah, totally. >> They had to they had to give all their. money to the Stones. >> Yep. >> Because it was uh what song? >> Uh it's um. >> what's Perplexity? while Tony is. >> or while Jamie rather is. >> Don't do that, please. >> Oh, I can't do that. That's right. No,

you can't. Oh, we have to get us. I. know. Song called the last time. >> If if I mean, we learned this the hard. way cuz I have an actual band that can. play anything and everything. And years. ago, they could play anything and. everything. Our old episodes hold um cuz. you know, I'd literally be to a you. know, a shy person. I'd be like, "What. do you you know, you ever do karaoke?". They're like, "Yes." I'd go, "What song. do you sing?" And then they they go, "Da. da da." And I literally they would go. right into it. And now you can't hum a.

song for a few seconds. >> So Bittersweet Symphony was a sample. from uh the Verve developed Bittersweet. Symphony from a sample from a 1965. version of Rolling Stone song, The Last. Time, uh adding vocals, strings, guitar, and. percussion. After a lawsuit by the. Rolling Stones former manager Alan. Klein, the Verve relinquished all. royalties to the Rolling Stones members. MC Jagger and Keith Richards, who were. also added to the songwriting credits.

Wow. 2019, 10 years after Klein's death, Jagger, Richards, and Klein's son seated. the rights to the Verb songwriter. Richard Ashcroft because he was probably. broke. There's similar things that have. happened recently with uh I think Olivia. Rodrigo and Paramore and then like uh. Puff Daddy and. >> Yeah. Can you please look up the other. one that I set up though? Um which was. Radio Head Creep, Lana Del Rey. And. Radio Head Creep had to give uh. songwriting credits to another band. >> The Holl.

>> The Holl. That's right. What was the. original song? The Air That I Breathe. It's interesting when you listen to. Let's listen to them. See if you could. find that. There's a comparison video. that I watched uh on um YouTube. See if. you could find that because it's. interesting how they they they say the. first one and you're like, "Geez, I. don't see it." Well, we'll have to edit. this out, ladies and gentlemen. But you. could find it yourself. Radio Heads. Creep versus Lana Del Rey's Get Free. versus The Holl's The Air That I.

Breathe. Yeah, that was a live version. of it, but if you uh hear the recorded. version of it, it's even more. You could see, >> but people get inspired by things. >> I get it though. >> I get it in those cases, especially like. the beginning of the Holly song and then. the beginning of Radio Head, like. dead on. >> Yeah. >> They're set in a mood, like a very. specific mood. Have you ever seen how. the guy from here's a crazy one. The guy. from the Gorillas, the song Clint.

Eastwood, I think it is, he had a like. one of those like little kids kind of. keyboards. and he hit the demo button because like. oftent times it'll just have a regular. song or whatever. And um it's the entire. backbone of their biggest hit. Um, you'd have to you'd have to pull it. up, I guess, to understand, but it's. that. Yeah, there it is. [music].

So, that's just on the thing. Wow. >> And somehow they got away with it. [music]. >> Wow. >> And then all they do from there is just. >> That's it. That's the preset. It's the. rock one preset. [music]. That's so crazy. They used that. [music]. They used a preset from. one of them little machines like a toy. >> And much like the [ __ ] crazy jokes.

that end up getting me in trouble, I bet. they don't even think that's going to be. the hit. You know what I mean? Like. they're probably not like, "This is the. song that's going to fly off the. shelves.". >> Yeah, but other people see it. Tony, I. was the one who told you you're going to. get stabbed for the Puerto Rican joke. [laughter]. >> There was that was so many years later. It's crazy. I was doing that joke during. the pandemic to the point to where it. got extended [laughter] to where you. were part of it. And what's funny is I. left those tags of the longer joke out. of the Trump rally one which probably. would have protected me. It probably.

would have saved it going, "Ah, it's. going to get me stabbed." Whatever. You. know what I mean? >> Then you would have to do the Amy. Schubert joke. >> Well, yeah, there was a lot to it. Yeah. People don't realize that that's a small. bit of a much much bigger chunk at the. time. Well, that's why it should be in a. set. You know, of course, comedy is a. such a weird art form. I mean, look, I. love it to death, but real comedy should. be seen in person. >> Oh, yeah. >> You know, Stan Hope said this once, like. it was like everything we do on TV is. just to try to get people to come see us. in the clubs. Exactly.

>> Like, that's really what it is. Like, you just really want people to go there. live because that's the real fun. >> Yeah. >> The real fun is all us, a bunch of human. beings [ __ ] around and having a good. time, right? soon as you start taking it. seriously and making it something that. it's not like you're. I get why you're doing it because that. has become a thing that people do today. But I'm just saying like for your own. mental health just not it's not good for. you to be engaging like I was saying. about the Carlos thing like just. engaging in conflict. It's not good.

It's not good for you. It's bad for you. >> Yeah. >> Feels bad. It's not good. It's not it's. you this is ne there's negative energy. and positive energy. You should spend as. much of your time possible on things. that make positive energy. I know that. sounds hippie and because I'm a little. bit of hippie. I got a lot of hippie in. me, but that's what I believe. I believe. you should spend as much of your time. having fun, making people laugh, having. a good time, and less about dwelling on. [ __ ]. >> Yeah. That's why I try to stay off.

Twitter because when I get on, I just. start freaking out at all the different. news stories that are just abomination. after abomination where you're just so. angry. >> It's just impossible now. And and you. know, it used to be Twitter was Twitter. and this and that, but really it's just. the news. X is the news. It's so hard to. >> absorb that. It you it was fun and you. know it's cool and all and my algorithm. still shows me stuff that I love. Police. chases gone wrong and and UFC highlights.

and all of this stuff, but all the stuff. around that is just crazy. I did a thing. because I was staying at a hotel. in um in uh DC right after the State of. the Union or something. Anyway, I'm. like, "Okay, it's a hotel TV. I never. get to watch regular TV. I'm going to be. asleep in a few minutes anyway." So, I. threw on um I ended up going by CNN. I'm.

like, "Let's see what these wackos are. saying over here. Let's see how fake the. news can possibly be because from what I. understand, the most recent State of the. Union was a solid State of the Union and. very positive and long and entertaining. Let's see what they say. Oh, racism. this. He caused the deaths of black. people here. He's the reason why we why. America's failing. It's the reason why. we're the laughing stock of the country. It made me so stressed out. And I'm. like, "Okay, well, let's see what Fox.

News is saying." And it was crazy over. there. And then you have [ __ ]. >> What did they say? >> Uh well, they had their counterpoint. person on, unlike CNN where they're just. all in agreeance. Yeah. Yeah. and going. by six people literally going, "Yeah, he's the worst and let's not forget that. he doesn't think trans people deserve. this and this and like they're just. going on and on about straight doom.". And Fox News had a counterpoint person. that was stressing me out. And you know, and I swear to God, I'm not kidding.

This is not a joke. I was flipping. through the different ch by MSNBC. I'm. like, "Oh my god, this is crazy." I put. on Silence of the Lambs. >> to [snorts] calm yourself down. >> I swear to God, I was asleep five. minutes later. Silent and I ended up, it. just coincidentally was on the Buffalo. Bill part where like he's got a girl in. a well in the basket. >> pure darkness and I'm like. finally some peace on the cable.

television. I never get to just watch. normal TV. >> So, did Fox News have a positive spin on. the State of the Union address? I did. not watch it. I remember for some reason. it was stressing me out whatever was. going on because like they have they at. least Fox has they'll argue still like. the news used to be they'll have both. sides on and kind of talk it out and CNN. has that poor guy that poor one guy that. just takes all the bullets [laughter]. for everybody. is just going lying this is that stat.

doesn't exist Jennings. >> Yes. Yeah. >> That poor guy is probably he probably. has months to live. He takes so many. bullets every day. He's a [ __ ] war. hero out there. >> It's uh it's a very turbulent world when. it comes to discourse. It's just. everybody's mad at everybody else. It's. really weird to watch. It's really weird. to watch these these shows on CNN now. that are basically like bad podcasts. that get interrupted every five minutes. for a commercial. It's really what it's. like. >> I just don't I don't remember it being.

that way where it's just so many panel. opinion shows. I remember it was it was. more like CNN used to have Bourdain's. show on Y, >> you know, where they would travel around. the country and. check out or travel around the world and. check out food and it was interesting. Y. >> and he would, you know, give you his. perspective on the cultures and all the. the problems and the things that these. people were facing and their food and. what what the community was like. It was. [ __ ] great show. They did a bunch of.

different shows that were different, you. know, and then somewhere along the line, man, they just went all outrage. >> Yeah. >> And I don't think that's going to get. any different now. I mean, now it looks. like Barry Weiss is going to be running. that as well. So, she's running the CBS. News and perhaps she's going to be. running CNN. The same company's going to. be running CNN. It's like, okay. >> Yeah. >> Good luck. Good luck. Because it's. already People already don't want to. listen. They don't want to take it. seriously. >> Yeah. they, you know, and that's why X. has become the news. The reason why it's.

become the news is because they can't. trust the news, >> right? >> You know, >> totally. It's crazy over there. >> Like Tim Dylan had these two New York. Times reporters on his podcast and uh I. listened to him talking about it. I. hadn't listened to them on the podcast, but I listened to him talking about it. and he was saying that uh they said. there's no evidence that Jeffrey Epstein. was intelligence. And I was like, "What? What? There's no you [ __ ] watch one. Mike Ben's episode of my podcast where. he breaks it down. It's almost. impossible that he's not.

>> right. >> Like what the [ __ ] are you like no. evidence? No, that's not true. There's. just evidence that you're not. considering. So it's like if the New. York Times and the people that we're. always supposed to trust to be the. objective purveyors of all that's going. on in the world, if they're compromised, so they're not allowed to say things or. they have narratives that they could. they're supposed to spin one way or. another or they're very cautious about. being honest about their opinion, very. very shielded about their actual. opinions. Either either one of those is. not good or if they actually believe.

that that's not good either because that. means you're not really paying attention. objectively. Like watch a Mike Benz. episode where he breaks down Epstein's. connections. It's nuts. The whole. thing's nuts. It's crazy that anybody could say that. he wasn't intelligence. >> Yeah, there's no doubt about it. And but. they will do anything to push their own. story. >> They don't. Yeah. It's it's a propaganda. network. >> Yeah. >> And whatever that propaganda is, I mean, that propaganda will shift depending.

upon who's in control of the realm of. the of the U reigns, rather. the realm. really is a realm realm of nonsense. Well, whoever's in control, they're. going to be the ones that dictate how. the narrative goes. And it's always. going to be whatever the sponsors are. That's why you never hear anything about. any of these studies that they're. showing about the vaccine safety signals. that they found very early on, how they. hid it, all this Fouchy stuff. They're. they're not showing any of that. the. Tulsi Gabbard speech. We talked about. that where, you know, she gave this.

speech explaining how he lied to. Congress and Fouchy had pressured these. other scientists to change their. perspective on whether or not it was. gain of function research and. >> Yeah. the [ __ ] that we had a pretty big. feeling about back in 2020. >> Yeah. You don't hear any of these. people. They're not covering it. >> Yeah. >> And they can't because they can't really. tell you the whole news. They. [clears throat] can only tell you the. news they're approved to tell you. >> That's not good. And that's how X comes. about. >> Yeah. That's how X becomes the place. where everybody trusts. But then you go. to X and it's just filled with.

horseshit. There's so much lies. There's. always video of something happening and. they're saying this is going on right. now. And you're like, and then someone. says, "No, this is a video from 2022. This is in, you know, this part of the. world. This is AI. >> This is China. This is not Israel. This. is, you know, it's like there's so much. horseshit and there's so many bots.". >> Yeah. It's like you just dip your toe. into the water and you just feel. poisoned. You're like, I got to get out. of here. >> Yep. >> But then you feel irresponsible for not. paying attention.

>> Exactly. And I feel like so many people. feel like they're doing the right thing, watching the news and being informed and. they hear. >> that the news is fake and they think. that's just like a Trump talking point. I've always said that Trump calling it. fake news was like one of the worst. things that could happen because then it. sounds like a Trump thing and the Trump. enemies go Oh, fake news. Sure, it's. fake. If he's saying it, then it can't. be fake because we have to disagree with. him. Meanwhile, it's a [ __ ] It's a. goddamn production. I mean, it is.

>> fake. >> And. >> they're right. It's fake. >> Yeah, >> it's fake. There. A lot of the news is. fake. It's not true. All that I mean, the fact that no one got in trouble for. all that Russia gate stuff, >> crazy. Absolutely crazy. and that they. still listen that the same people that. were pushing that Russia gate [ __ ] are. they're still giving opinions on TV, >> right? >> It's nuts. >> Yeah. There's no repercussions to be. found. They get to say whatever they. want. It's crazy.

>> Well, the repercussion is no one takes. them seriously. >> And that's real. They've suffered that. I mean, uh we've seen that in real time. And I think the p the pandemic was the. big that was the big wakeup call for a. lot of people especially people that. were forced to take the vaccine because. they had jobs or you know they had a fly. or they had family members and then they. they got some horrible side effect and. those people got what they call. redpilled you know I know a lot of. people that got redpilled from that.

>> They just can't take it anymore. >> It's crazy and it's bubbish. You know. what I mean? And there's certain areas. geographically. in which that's the mentality and they. stick to it. I mean, here in Austin, I'm. known as, you know, uh, a skinny little. [ __ ] I went to LA and it turns out. I'm a racist Nazi. Like, I'm like, they. were doing jokes on me at that roast in.

which it's like, "Oh, what are you guys. talking about?" There's parts where I'm. literally like, "What the I've never. even heard this about myself. I'm on a. comedy show every week where people take. shots at me and I've None of this is a. thing. >> Well, it's made up and it's all They. also made up a bunch of stuff about like. you going to Saudi Arabia. >> Yeah. >> Which is crazy, >> right? Crazy. >> They just made it up. >> Yeah. Not only made it up, turned it. down. Like didn't go when offered vast. sums of money that the bus boy, bag boy,

Tony would never imagine turning down. And people don't even know that you. turned it down cuz you haven't been. public about it, >> right? I mentioned it. I me glazed over. it on one for one moment on Kill Tony. once. But yes, the people that turned. down that money are you and Shane. Gillis. >> Yeah. And meanwhile, Netflix clipped. that and po and pinned it on their. Instagram that joke. And with the. caption, long sip because I'm sipping my. water because the joke isn't on me, so. the camera shouldn't be on me.

Meanwhile, they're getting my reaction. shot to, "Oh, you guys took that Saudi. Arabian money." And make it makes it. look like I'm offended or something or. guilty of taking Saudi Arabian money. >> But just a joke when you just lie about. a fact and to make a joke is crazy. >> Mhm. >> Cuz you're just lying. Like that's. there's a difference between that and. making a joke about something. Like you. had to make something true and then. criticize them for something. So you had. a lie about something and then criticize. them about that lie that you just.

invented. >> Yeah. >> Which takes three seconds to find out it. wasn't true. >> Exactly. >> It takes a really quick search like, "Oh, he didn't go.". >> Right. >> Okay. >> On the contrary, the the guys that. Chelsea was complimenting during that. set. Basically, Kevin Hart and Pete. Davidson did take the money and went to. Saudi Arabia. >> Also, you don't think Chelsea Handler. would have taken that money if they. offered her to go to Saudi Arabia? He. went to dinner at Epstein's house. >> Exactly. >> What the [ __ ] are we talking about? >> But it's all right cuz Woody Allen was.

there. >> Yeah. And apparently she gave him the. what have you. >> She told him. [laughter]. That's what they said. She told him she. was very upset with him. >> Um Yeah. At the intelligence agent slash. sexual predator's house. >> Yeah. >> Guys who arrested for statutory rape. >> Uh that's fine though. >> Crazy. >> Just Yeah. Don't be a white guy. It's enough. >> It's just the whole thing is so stupid. Like if you want to make fun of someone.

for anything, for you know, you looking. gay or you like you're down with that. But there you when you invent a fact. that's not true, you say it's not true. and then you criticize someone for that, like that's stupid. That's a stupid way. to do comedy. >> Yeah. >> You know, >> and the way that it's covered and. everything, it's like what what are you. guys doing? Well, if you didn't know and. people didn't know obviously because. they laughed. They thought you maybe you. did go or maybe Shane did go. They. didn't know that you were the two people. that did say no.

>> You know, Jessica Kersson went and she. got criticized so much she gave her. money away. >> She gave the money away. I think she. gave What did she do with the money? Find out what she did. But I was like, "Oh man." Listen, those people that went. to see Jessica Kers, first of all, I. heard she murdered over there. She's. very funny. She's a [ __ ] dynamo. She's a killer on stage. Very, very. entertaining. Lovely lady. I love her to. death. She's fun to talk to. >> She [ __ ] murdered over there, I. heard. So, a lesbian woman from New York.

went to Saudi Arabia. Look at donates. Riad Comedy Festival fee to human rights. campaign. Well, >> wow. >> All that money is going to someone's. payroll. >> Yeah. It's going to, you know what I. mean? >> Daycare center in Yeah. you feel better. But meanwhile, someone it's paying for. someone's salary that's probably not. fixing homelessness or whatever the [ __ ]. it is. >> That's what they do. Tom Siguro went and. put a photo of a Ferrari and said, "Thanks, Saudi Arabia.".

>> Yeah. [laughter]. >> But everybody was very upset. But my my. perspective is um the people that are in. that audience, if you're upset at the. people that that are paying and. organizing, okay, the people that are in. that audience though that they're. performing to, they don't get a chance. to see American standup comedy and. they're getting a chance to see it live. And standup comedy, like music, like. literature, changes people's minds. It. changes all art where you see someone, a. different person than you with a totally.

different perspective that lives on. another side of the world that says. something that you think is hilarious. and you love. It changes, you know, it. changes people's perspectives. You win. hearts and minds. I mean, that's real. Like you you can change the world a. little bit by getting people to say, "Hey, we kind of are we all have a lot. of shared interests. We just want to. have fun. We just want to be with our. friends, be with our family, and do what. we want to do." Like everybody wants. that, including those people in the. audience. Like those people in the. audience in Saudi Arabia were just Saudi.

Arabian citizens. They're just a bunch. of people that lived there. They came. out to see comedy. Like performing in. front of them. I mean, what is wrong with that? It's was wrong. You're supposed to boycott it because. the people that run it probably were. involved with the killing of Jamal. Kosigible in some way or the people that. finance it. Okay. Maybe I see I see how you didn't want to. do it and I see how Shane didn't want to. do it and I probably probably wouldn't.

want to do it either. But I don't have. any problem with people doing it because. I think at the end of the day you're. just like I don't have any problem with. Saudi Arabia putting on these boxing. matches that I talked about. I love that. they put on these boxing matches and. oddly enough that's not really. criticized that much even by like. heavyduty left-wing MMA media which is a. real thing. Um there's a lot of like. [ __ ] [ __ ] libs that are MMA media um. just because they're journalists and. they just happen to be fans but they. have that like hardcore leftwing. perspective. They don't seem to have.

that much of a problem with it. Not like. people had the problem with the comics. over there where guys like Louie and. Bill Burr, they just get destroyed for. that. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's nuts. >> But I think Sigura had the right move. Just don't even pay attention. [ __ ] off. I'm going to perform wherever I want to. perform, you know. >> Yeah. No, it makes sense. Totally. I. just can't go straight from a Trump. rally to Saudi Arabia. Like a [laughter]. little bit of a hop, a skip, and a jump.

>> I know. It's also It's like, you know, is that what you want to do? I don't. want to go there. It's too long, >> right? >> So, I want to be on a plane for 16 hours. to go anywhere. >> Yeah. Exactly. That's why I hate it. I. hate flying. >> Yeah. [ __ ] off. >> It's terrible. >> Come to Texas. Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. Exactly. [gasps]. >> It's just we live in a very polarized. society and I think a large part of that. is what we were talking about earlier. with social media and mentally ill. people just just screaming into the. [ __ ] void every day.

I just would like to suggest to people. just try not to engage like that for a. month and see how much better you feel. >> Yeah. >> Just try it. >> Talk and make friends. >> And hopefully that's not how you've set. up your life where you have to do that. for a living. Hopefully, you're not one. of those people cuz there are people. that are paid posters and they make a. pretty good living just posting and. getting engagement. Well, you know, I. don't know what to tell you. You're. trapped, >> right? >> You know, if you're if your whole thing. is like [ __ ] on people all day long, you're kind of trapped. >> Yeah.

>> But you can't feel good. >> There's no way. >> No, >> there's no way. It's like the amount of. cortisol that must be pumping through. your body all day where you're going. over and and I see like people that do. that. I see how they get destroyed in. the replies and I'm like and I know. they're reading that like good lord. >> Yeah. >> Like I don't know how Gavin Newsome is. still alive. Every time he posts. something the way he gets destroyed in. those comments is like. >> [ __ ] [snorts] insane.

>> Well, no one is happy. >> It's just the funniest thing because. it's it he reminds me of like one of the. last actual politicians. like he's a. different just lying, ignoring of facts type of human being. because we're witnessing it. Maybe it's. easy for someone in uh I don't know, New. Hampshire to go, "Ah, that Gavin. Newsome's the future." But we lived in. California and I've been to San.

Francisco recently and we've seen it. Like when you travel, you know, comedians aren't the end all be all in. these wise whatever sages perhaps, but. we do travel a lot and you spend a. weekend in a city and you're not just. doing your shows. You're having lunch. somewhere. You're having coffee. somewhere. You're dealing with the. people at the hotel lot, whatever it may. be. There's different communications and. vibes and energies. And there's so many. of these places, especially California.

You know, San Diego's like a last stand. Huntington Beach is an air area around. there. There's like these little pockets. in which there's still some common sense. and happiness. Enjoy Newport. These. little pockets, >> but those major cities are [ __ ] man. even the drive and you know I go to LA. basically maybe once a year now for a. quick always fun visit always doing some. arena and a couple nights at the store. which is different unfortunately but the.

drive from LAX to that area of West. Hollywood/Bly Hills is gruesome. everything is for lease everything is. empty. um there's nothing new except for the. crazy looking weirdass Obama Museum. library, which is the craziest, weirdest. eyesore humanly imaginable. Where is. that? >> It's like on the way up there. I can't. remember if it's like off of La Sienna.

or Fairfax. >> That's not the new one. Cuz the new one. is in Chicago, isn't it? >> Yeah. >> Oh, it is. What's the [ __ ] They built. something that looks just like that. monstrosity. >> No, the one in Chicago people don't like. it. I think it looks dope. It looks like. >> It looks like something from Bladeunner. >> Yeah, >> I like it. A lot of people don't like, but it cost a lot of money. Cost like. $850 million. See if you can find out. what that building looks like. >> Show me a photo of. >> something that looks just like that.

building. >> Sports complex on in Los Angeles they. made. >> Who did the Obamas? >> Yeah, I don't know if that's. >> Oh, okay. >> Um. >> what is the um the one in Chicago? A lot. of people were criticizing it and I saw. it. I go, "That thing looks dope. I love. [clears throat] it." Like that thing. Where is it? Yeah, the the one there. where your cursor is. Click on that. >> Oh, that's a rendering. >> I don't think it's done yet. >> Oh, it's not done. >> Maybe. I don't I mean, this looks like. >> I thought people were in it. >> I don't think so. I think they. >> What's it down there in the lower? >> They just showed this online and. everyone was going crazy.

>> I thought people were already going to. it. >> I don't know that. >> Um. I think that's it. That looks like a. rendering to me. That looks fake as. [ __ ] But that one down there, that one. down there with the darkness in the. corner. >> Yeah, right there. Is that real? >> Encyclopedia Bratannica. >> I think that's a real photo. I think. it's done. I might be wrong.

>> Oh, you have uh Los Angeles, Chicago. Yeah, it's real. So, it's up. But I I. think it looks cool. It's different. People are saying it's ugly. It looks. like See if we can find photos of it. Go. to images. >> Yeah. Just Yeah. We go. Like there, dude. I think that looks dope. >> Really?

>> Yeah. >> That window list. >> And look at how all the writing on the. top. What does it say? Go all the way. up, please. I'm. >> trying. Oh. Uh, unconstrained. >> convention by what is? >> It's written on two sides. So, >> I think you're missing. >> Oh, right. Oh, it goes all the way. around it. Oh, that's [ __ ] cool. I. think that looks cool. I mean, maybe I. have no taste. >> I mean, we can't even find an angle of. what they're trying to say there. [laughter] So,

>> right. I don't know what it's saying, but I think it's cool that they did. that. That they had words that go across. like that. I just think it looks sick. >> But I like that kind of brutalist. architecture. I think that's what they. call it. >> Yeah. >> I like that kind cement with big glass. Like there's a lot of houses like that, especially like in the Hollywood Hills. that I love. >> Mhm. >> I looked at one of them. >> back when I was starting to make that. cheddar. And uh I was like maybe I. should live in Hollywood and then I. could just do the store right there. But.

I was like. probably not that safe. I looked at the. house um above um the store that Mitsy. was selling. >> What was it on Kfax? Was that what it. was? Was that the street? It was the. comic store. The comic house where like. Kenisonson stayed there and Paulie lived. there for a while. >> But I had dogs and I was like this is. not enough backyard. It's too small. And. also it's like it's too close to the. machine. >> Yeah. >> It's like right next to the beast. Like. I don't know if I want to be like right.

next to the beast. I think I'd rather be. outside the beast and go visit. Yeah, >> like that for me, for my head. >> But, uh, I looked at a couple of houses. up there and one of them was this house. that was like really it was out of my. budget really. I was just I shouldn't. have been looking at it. It was like 10. million bucks and it had crazy like like. concrete with massive windows, but it. was right there on the street. >> Like you're walking on the street, there's a sidewalk you could lean over. and touch the front door of the house. I.

was like, >> "Yeah, >> this is kind of crazy to buy this. house." And the guy was like, "Don't. worry, we have a state-of-the-art. security system." So I go, "Yeah, you. know what that is?" I go, "Your camera. is going to catch a guy with a ski mask. robbing you.". >> Yeah. >> And two weeks after I said that, the guy. who owned the house got shot in it. >> Whoa. >> Two weeks got shot in the neck. >> [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> Damn. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, >> hey, >> that's these places, man. But the ar. that kind of architecture I think is.

dope. I like like that crazy modern. cement stuff. But for a house like what. you're going to live in the reality is. you'd probably be like I'm sleeping in a. museum. This is too weird. >> Yeah. >> I'd rather just have a regular house. >> Yeah. Windows are a necessity. >> Yeah. I just want to see stuff. I just. want to be able to open have a cup of. coffee and see some trees, you know? Let. me just sit down and [ __ ] collect my. thoughts for the day, you know? I don't. necessarily need to be in a [ __ ]. museum. Concrete ass big. It's there's.

something weird about it. It's like. you're too weird. If you live like that, you're weird, man. You're you're living. with this giant. 20 foot high glass wall in front of you. that looks out at the bladeunner scape. that is Los Angeles from the hills. Have. you seen that view at night? Have you. ever been up to a house? >> Oh, yeah. Have you seen this house? >> Oh, that's sick. I love that house. It's. known as like the Oakley Founders House. I don't know if he still owns it, but.

>> Yeah, that's up there. >> Yeah, >> that house I love. See, if I was single. and a baller, that's where I would live. 210 million. A bargain. [laughter]. >> [ __ ] love that [ __ ] I see [ __ ] like. that, I'm like, "Oh my god, that's where. I love it." But I don't want to live. there for real. >> Yeah. >> I think after a while you would be like, "I'd rather have a log house." I was. trying to find pictures of Kanye's. concrete house, but this is not the one. I was looking for specifically. >> I just love those kind of houses that. look like that. Like especially that.

one, that circular one. >> The way you pull into that driveway and. the the entire back house faces the. lights and you see the lights like it's. hard to see from photos of how Look how. sick that looks, man. That's sick. I. love that. But the lights from that, like if you're up in the hills, you want. to be above looking down. And it's like. a movie. It's like a sci-fi movie. It's. one of the coolest [ __ ] views I've. ever seen. >> Holly has the [ __ ] as crazy as it.

sounds, that [ __ ] when he made. it, he bought a house that's on top top. top of the Hollywood Hills with that MTV. money. >> Yeah, >> dude. It's crazy. He remodeled it. recently when I was there for the. festival. He's like, "Dude, you got to. come see the house. Come see the house.". I'm like, Pauly, I'm so busy. That's. very highly unlikely. Come see the. house, dude. You got to come to the. house. Sure enough, I went there one. afternoon for a [ __ ] coffee. Bro, it. is crazy. He was right. He's got the.

house. He did it. It's on top of. everything. So, there's if if a robber. does try to go up there, they're robbing. someone else's house. They don't want to. go to the tippy top of the [ __ ] hill. [laughter] That's a tough escape. >> That's the problem is the escape. You. want to be close to the bottom so you. can. >> Right. >> Speaking of which, I've been watching uh. I got went down a rabbit hole the other. day on YouTube. >> where uh street racers. >> and there's this one guy. >> uh who is like a famous street racer.

because uh there's all these videos of. him. He got his uh his thing set up. where he can shut the lights off. He's. got this black Corvette. I'm gonna send. this to you, Jamie. I. >> think I've seen this guy. >> Yeah, his name is really slow. like R Y L SL O. um and he's got videos of these cop. encounters. So they he like baits cops. and then goes on these mad runs and you. you watch it, you go, "Holy shit.".

>> Oh, I love it. >> Cars on the screen. >> Yes. This is the dude. >> Yeah. >> About him, not just. >> Yeah. This is well he's like a legend. online because he does interviews only. with a voice changer where it takes his. voice and it makes it like that where he. describes all the modifications that he. did to his car. But he puts a 3D camera. on the back of his car and he uh you. know they have those things where you. stick it on the back of your car and it. gives you a 3D view of the automobile.

and he has video of the cops like. flashing their lights and his car has. got a 1000 plus horsepower. So these. poor cops and they're like 300. horsepower [ __ ] Crown Victoria. They. try to chase this guy and he just. disappears and then once he gets out of. the line like go back to that video. where he was before. Watch this. >> I mean it's this is it's edited. It's. not his videos. It's just someone. >> I I understand but if you just I know. this video but if you what what he does. is they start pulling him over and in.

the beginning when they pull him over he. hits the gas and then shuts his lights. off. Did you pass that spot? Here it is. So So this is it. So they hit the lights. and he's like, "See you." Are they going. to show it? >> Yes. This is not the. >> Okay. So this is not the compilation. So. when he does it and he hits the gas, he. gets far. Here it is. He gets far enough. away from them. They're not showing it. >> These [ __ ] they have to edit. their own [ __ ] Leaving it alone is. better. So he gets ahead of everybody.

and then just he has a button where it. kills his headlights and he's using. night vision. >> Wow. >> Yeah. It's nuts. So, is this it? >> Says he enters ghost mode here. >> Yes, this is it. So, this is this guy. So, his license plate says, "We'll run.". >> Like, it's a fake. It's a fake license. plate. The cops get it behind him. They. hit the lights and he goes, "Bye.". And the cops realize there's no way to. catch this guy. It's not. Look at that. >> Oh. >> Lights go out and he's gone.

>> And he's flashing lights on people to. get them the [ __ ] out of the way. And. there's no way to catch him. And then he. bangs U-turns. He knows where he's. going. He plots it out. And the thing. is, he's filming this and uploading it. >> Oh, yeah. >> So, he's got to hide his identity. through how many different channels? How. does Instagram not know who he is? How. is he posting? I guess he's using a VPN. He's probably using a proxy and he's. probably going through some other. country or something. If he's smart, if. he's smart enough to avoid detection,

but he just has these [ __ ] crazy car. bills. It's like he's got a Calvo Viper. that has like I mean I don't know how. many [ __ ]. horsepower that thing has, but they make. some of these COVID Vipers. It's a. company here in Texas. They make Vipers. that have 2,000 horsepower. >> Damn. >> What? Like where. >> the [ __ ] are you talking about? >> Does anybody know where does he always. do it in the same city? >> He's in I think he's in the Dallas area. >> How fun. >> Well, yeah. Well, not good if he kills.

somebody, but it's uh very spooky. >> Yeah, it's nuts, man. Because this [ __ ]. dude uh really knows how to drive, too. And you see these poor cops and one of. them, the cops wipe out. They slammed. into another car and. >> oh [ __ ]. >> they're trying to pass by these cones. and the road cuts off and the cop hits. the cones then loses control of his car. and slams into another car. Like people. can [ __ ] die. Especially if he runs a. red light and he runs a lot of them and.

someone's being an idiot. Maybe. someone's doing exactly what he's doing. while he's running the red light. >> Dude, you have to see what Kanye's doing. right now. It's a it's a historical. moment in all of art. It's unbelievable. >> Yeah. You said the he's standing on the. globe, right? >> Well, not only that, he the entire. everything is a super production and. it's all him. like you could tell he's. made every decision and tweaked. everything to the to the color of. everything to when it happens to how it. happens that it's not too much. He's not.

overwhelming the senses with lasers and. lights and all of this. It's all so. strategic. But most importantly, it's. first of all, it's the [ __ ] greatest. production I've ever seen of anything. And I come from Pink Floyd land where. the live show has to be ahead of its. time and state-of-the-art and everything. for my mind to be blown. And I was expecting this to be like. every other rap concert that I've seen, which is going to be fun and good and. maybe great. Of course, it'll be great.

But this was like a thousand times my. expectations because first of all, he's. doing pop-up shows at stadiums, which is. crazy. He announces it a week or two in. advance and the stadium's like, "Okay, we're sitting empty that night. We'd. love to sell beer and water and get a. percentage of merch, right? How these. venues work." They don't give a [ __ ]. And he's not promoting it. Everyone else. that's been to one or seen one is. promoting it. And then the mayor of. whatever city or whatever leftist.

person, whether it be the governor of. that state or whatever, is like, "This. shouldn't be happening." So, they're. promoting it for him. and it's filled to. the top of the [ __ ] stadium. Whereas. even Pink Floyd or the Rolling Stones or. whoever announces a tour all at once and. goes, "Hey, buy tickets. I'm on tour. Pretty. Please come." Right? He's just. like San Antonio July 4th. >> Like a week ago, literally. And what's. crazy is that my buddy. got me tickets to go see him in Tampa.

because as all we knew is that he was. going to Tampa. And so there I there I. was and I'm looking and it's filled to. the top and the floor is filled and it's. he doesn't stop. He doesn't take a. break. >> There it is. >> I saw that on Instagram after his first. one that he did. I think it was in LA. and I'm like, "Oh, that's crazy. I need. to see this. >> That is nuts. That stage is nuts.". >> But these pictures and videos do not do. any justice to what is happening.

soundwise, energywise. Just that stage. alone is [ __ ] insane. >> It's crazy. And he enters at the he. walks through the crowd because. obviously it's in the round. He comes. out and you hear a pop from one side cuz. they can kind of see him and then the. globe turns on and you know he waits. until it's dark. So he is he enters at. one point and then inside is a a um a uh. a lift that only takes him. So like.

there's no one that can storm that stage. or anything cuz it's inflatable on the. outside. So it's an impossible. impossible to, you know, storm the stage. or anything like that. And he's the only. one that has access to the lift. obviously. And he has a tether that he's. attached to so he doesn't go off or. anything. >> So it doesn't fall into the balloon. >> Exactly. [laughter] And it is the most. diabolical show I've ever seen in my. entire life. Ever. And that includes all.

the [ __ ] everythings. And again, I. come from the school of Pink Floyd, which is always 10, 20 years ahead of. its time production-wise. And this was [ __ ] nuts because he. does not stop. He does not take a break. He doesn't go, "Thank you guys for. coming out." Until the very end in which. he goes, "It's all about love. I love. you guys. Thanks for sticking with me. all these years when all these people. said this." And then by that point, two. and a half hours in when he's saying. that, you're just like, you got to be. [ __ ] kidding me. >> When you realize the bulk of his work,

how many bangers that guy has, >> it's nuts, dude. >> Bangers. >> And I, as an experiment, took my one. buddy who said that uh, you know, part. of the group was my one friend who has. always been like, I don't know, you. [ __ ] love Kanye. I mean, not really. my thing, but he's not he's just not. really a rap fan is the reality. So, I. invited him on this trip and his mind. was [ __ ] now he's a diehard Kanye. fan. Now he's going back and, you know, realizing that he's always been a Kanye.

fan. Like, it's such a crazy [ __ ]. thing because not only does he have hits. on hits on hits, but he does not stop in. between songs because some of his beats. kind of correlate or this and that. He'll literally just keep going and. going and going until his amazing on his. new album, he has this keyboardist with. one of those like crazy blow into tube. instrument things. I don't know what.

it's called, but he has a solo, a big. one on one of the songs, which is gives. Kanye a minute and a half to catch his. breath, an hour and a half into nonstop. going. And also on top of all that, you. know, a rap concert's a rap concert, but. Kanye is the greatest producer of all. time in that industry. So every noise. that's happening, even if he's not. talking or or singing or rapping into a. microphone, is all him and him only. You.

know what I mean? like he might get an. idea or an inspiration as we've talked. about or he's a master of sampling. um old hit songs and having them be in. the backbone of the thing and. everything, but this was it's just a. whole another level. Absolute insanity. Like I thought I was going to go there. and be like, "Yeah, and maybe, you know, move a little bit or sing along or. whatever." And instead my jaw was. dropped the entire time. >> Is there anybody that ever bounced back. from being canceled like him? And that's.

really the underlying thing. There's. this feeling of loyalty that's there. And we're right. You know what I mean? There's a feeling that everybody there. is like they're. correct. >> Does that make sense? Like I saw a. breakdown of it cuz my algorithm's. feeding me Kanye stuff non-stop since I. went to it cuz somehow [ __ ] Instagram. knows and whatever. And I watched a. breakdown of it talking about how like. it's like this psychiatrist or energy.

specialist or something that's talking. about how and why this is the craziest. concert ever done before. And she breaks. it down and goes, "People that like. Kanye believe in themselves." Because. if Kanye saying, "I'm the greatest. I'm. the man, I'm a god, all of these. things," makes you not like him and you. insecure, you're insecure. Does that make sense?

Like it's like he if if that turns you. off to somebody, then you don't really. like yourself that much. >> Why do you think that? Well, again, this was someone else's. psychological breakdown of it, and I'm. probably not explaining it correct. because I was stoned on a couch, but. >> I see how what they would be saying to. try to defend him, but there's some. people that just get turned off by that. kind of braggadocious. rap music. >> I don't. >> Right. >> I love that [ __ ]. >> Well, >> I I love 90s hiphop talking about how.

great they are. I love it. >> Yeah. >> I'm a giant fan of that [ __ ]. >> Yeah. You know, I think like some of my. favorite rap lyrics, like some of Nas's. lyrics, just him talking about how he's. the [ __ ]. >> Yeah, totally. [laughter]. >> I don't mind it at all. But it's like. it's when you're singing along to that. stuff and you're listening to that. stuff, like you're feeling what that. guy's feeling when he's saying it. And. if his raps are hit, if his rhymes are. really hitting, especially like Kanye or. any of the greats, you know, Biggie,

Tupac, Nas, like when when they're. nailed, it's like, >> oh my god, >> with good lyrics and good execution. It's a be it's a [ __ ] amazing art. form. Even if USA really did create it. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> I don't I don't want to believe that, you know. I think they probably very. they promoted it. What's really. interesting is the lack of big rock and. roll bands. I know Jaime's kind of. defended this, but Right. >> I think it's a fact. >> Oh, no. No doubt. >> There's less big rock and roll bands.

than when we were a kid. When we were a. kid, rock and roll was everything. >> It was like rock and roll. And if you. liked rock and rap, like you were a. weirdo, >> you know? >> Yeah. Like I really became a rap fan. like almost like silently like secretly. [laughter]. >> because you had to be a rock fan. If you. if you loved rock music and you went to. rock concerts like that's all you liked. But I was like yeah but this is good. too. >> Oh yeah. >> You know I'd like listen to ghetto boys. I'll be like you got to listen to this. Come listen to this. [ __ ] is awesome.

>> Yeah. Oh my range is absolutely. ridiculous. >> Our green room. >> I just got Roy Orbison on vinyl. Oh. Oh, yeah. >> Pretty Woman. >> Oh my god. And again, that's one. >> We're gonna be in trouble for that. >> probably. >> [ __ ]. >> [ __ ]. >> And again, Pretty Woman, much like Pink. Floyd's Wish You Were Here, is like one. of my when you get into their radio. stuff, it's kind of funny how some bands. and musicians get like typ casted by.

their hit, whereas like Pretty Woman's. kind of repetitive and easy, even though. it's a jam, right? >> Mhm. but his other songs that like I. hadn't even heard before because I'm. like this guy seems like he has some. [ __ ] some hits and he does man and uh. you know I what I mean by the Pink Floyd. thing is it always fascinated me that. people go ah yeah I like Pink Floyd Wish. You Were Here Another Brick in the Wall. and it's like damn it it's because those. are their radio songs cuz they can't. play an 11 minute long Shine on You.

Crazy Diamond or all their real hits. that they're real echo. which is like 17. minutes and goes slow and fast and and. bluesy and then jazzy and this and that. >> Um. >> yeah, there were so many songs like. that, especially from like the 70s where. they just took wild chances and had long. ass songs like famously Freeird like. record executives were telling them like. the beginning of it is too slow. >> Yep. >> And they're like nope this is the song.

>> exactly. >> This is what it is. >> Yep. There's another one. Yeah. Whole. lot of love. >> Yeah. >> Whole lot of love has a minute and a. half of [ __ ] sounds. >> Mhm. [gasps]. [sighs]. >> And symbols and [ __ ] It's weird. >> I only recently got to see the uh the. Queen movie, whatever that is. Is that. Bohemian Rap City? >> I believe so. >> Whatever they call it. >> I haven't seen it. >> Yeah. Well, I walked in on a part where. it's the rec they're at the record. executives's office and he's going,

"This can't be the main single off of. this thing." And and Freddy Mercury's. like, "Dude, it [ __ ] has." And I'm. obviously not quoting this, but. >> uh and the record exec's like, "Man, you're saying gibberish at points. It's. slow with a piano. You're saying things. that don't even make sense and it's. [ __ ] 8 minutes long. Like, what are. you thinking?" And they're arguing back. and forth and back and forth. and his. bass player, guitarist, or one of the. guys that's in the meeting with this.

record exec sitting behind a big fancy. desk points at the wall and goes, "So, you were the record exec that made this, huh?" And he points at Dark Side of the. Moon, and you see the record exec, "Oh, fuck." Because what the [ __ ] was that? It starts with a heartbeat, has no words. for the first what, however long. >> Also, what is the deal with it aligning. with the Wizard of Oz? >> Crazy. Roger says it's just. coincidental. >> I know. >> But it seems like the universe organized.

it. Yeah. >> It almost seems like evidence of the. simulation. >> Yep. >> Because it's so good the way it lines. up. >> Yeah. >> It's too good. >> I've always said it's the craziest. coincidence of all times. >> I feel like it's evidence of the. simulation. >> Mhm. >> There's something about it. There's. evidence of like some weird bizarre. synchronicity between those two pieces. of art. >> Yeah. The produ producing that would. have been near impossible. >> Impossible. Not like he couldn't, but. just the amount of planning and figuring. things out and the technology then would. have been so hard to do.

>> Yeah. So hard. Pink Floyd would had to. they would have literally have to watch. it and then go over each beat and. decide. >> How high was the person that figured it. out too, >> right? Got discussed. [laughter] But. like how do you notice that? Like hold. on. Is it It's going It's still going. It's 45 minutes. >> But meanwhile, it's perfect. Like we've. watched it before. It's perfect. The. lyrics are the scariest part. >> God, >> which one is which at one point when. only when the only moment when both the.

good witch and the bad witch are there? >> Yeah, it's nuts. >> And the wildest one to me is always when. she's balancing on the thing, you know, in black and white with the other. farmers around and on the run that crazy. starts and she falls off at that exact. moment and chaos is happening. It's. crazy. Is there a why in that. conspiracy? You know, like why would. they have done that just to do it? >> Just for funsies. Just because they were. picking Floyd.

>> Yeah. >> There's a lot of rumors you could have. picked. >> Well, I mean, Roger Waters says it was. an accident. >> I know. I'm just saying like. >> I know. I know. But the conspiracy. theorist I don't know. I mean, I would. imagine they think that I brought the. people that believe that it was some. sort of a coordinated conspiracy. >> It's like, why wouldn't they say that? Why wouldn't they just say we we lined. it up with. >> be awesome. >> The Wizard of Oz. Yeah. If they said. that it would make more people watch it. and more people listen. >> Well, they did pretty good off of it. [laughter]. >> Yeah, they did pretty good.

>> Who were we to give them advice? >> Yeah. >> Speaking of doing pretty good. You're. [ __ ] killing it, dude. Congratulations. >> Thank you, buddy. >> That's awesome watching it all. >> Thank you, man. >> You're taking all the hits. Keep on. moving. Keep on trucking. Just makes you. stronger. >> On to the next one. >> Makes the jokes better. New jokes are. killing it. >> Yeah, it's fun. We're having a good. time. >> Yeah. Tuesdays and Wednesdays are the. best. Working them out at [music] the. mothership. >> Yes, sir. All right. I appreciate you, brother. >> Thank you, man. Hell, yeah. Bye, everybody. [music].

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