Joe Rogan Experience #2520 - Tommy Lee

Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. >> The Joe Rogan Experience. >> TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY. NIGHT. All day. >> We up. We rolling. Thanks [music] for. the heads up so I'm not tripping later. going, "Hey, dude. [laughter]. >> Good to see you, man.". >> Yeah, good to see you, too. >> What's cracking? You got a diamond in. your tooth? Is that what's going on? >> Yeah. >> Nice. [snorts] Nice. [laughter]. >> That's fun. My friend Cam just got a. gold tooth and I was giving him a hard. time and then I was like, "Damn, I think. I want one.".

>> Yeah, you got to get one, dude. >> I'm thinking of getting a gold tooth. I. have a cap on one of my I had a root. canal. I've got a cap out of one of. them. I think I'm going to swap it out. for a gold tooth. >> Do it. Do it. [ __ ] yeah. >> I got one back here somewhere. >> It's just that little like I don't know. that little pirate thing starts to. happen. [laughter]. >> I know. It's just a little little. outcasty. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, what's cracking, brother? How you doing? >> I'm I'm good, man. I'm uh I'm stoked to.

be here to see you. >> Stoked to have you here. >> Yeah, man. I [ __ ] I wish I was staying. longer now. Um but uh we'll make the. best of. >> How long are you staying? How long are. you in town for? >> I'm I'm leaving after. >> right after this. >> After you. Yeah. >> Where you headed? >> Back home, LA. Um my son is getting. married. >> Oh, congratulations. >> Thanks. Thanks. which is such a trip, dude. You know, like he's 29 and um he's. getting married and I'm just I've been.

kind of tripping out on that. Like, dude, where the [ __ ] did that time a go? >> Right. >> And like I'm so [ __ ] happy for him. that. he's been seeing this girl for seven. years. I'm so proud that he did exactly. the opposite of his dad. [laughter]. >> You know what I mean? Like he he he. knows and they're they've been. >> basically they've been married, you. know?

>> So they're just making it official now. >> And I'm just so happy for him. I'm like. I'm I tell them all the time like so. happy for you, dude. like you you know. you you you use some patience and some. love and like mix it all around and put. some time in there and you know shit's. like your your survival rate is going to. be way better way better and that makes. me really happy. >> and your happiness rate I think if. you're a kid and your dad is Tommy Lee. and you you've had such a [ __ ] crazy.

chaotic life he's probably like slow. down give me a [ __ ] yard and a picket. fence and whoa. Totally. [laughter]. Totally. That's why like in, you know, in, you know, in the drift of. everything, I'm really surprised and I'm. really happy he just like. >> pumped the brakes, you know, just like. make sure that what he's doing is. >> the real [ __ ]. >> Yeah. I mean, especially in LA with a. rockstar dad, it's like there's so many. bad influences. There's so many ways you. could go where you could just ruin your.

[ __ ] life. It's so easy to ruin your. life if you're in the wrong circles, >> dude. so easy, >> right? >> Cuz everybody else is doing it, too. You're like, "Hey, I guess we're doing. meth." [laughter]. >> I know. [ __ ]. >> I'm [ __ ] just I I mean, I know people. that are good people that have fallen. down that rabbit hole and they're not. bad people. They're not even stupid, man. They just made a bad decision for. whatever reason and then next thing you. know, they're all strung out. And it's.

like LA is the hub of that. Yeah. There's so much of that going on in LA. >> Yeah. And if you are have any sort of. that sort of [ __ ] magnet attached to you. >> like you know the shady friends and the. most circles you just kind of. >> and all of a sudden. >> you're just [ __ ]. >> I mean I don't live in the rock and roll. world but I think that's probably the. most attractive to like crazy people.

like that world. That is the world where. if you're a [ __ ] cook, like you. gravitate towards that world, you know? >> It's probably so hard to find like sane. balanced people that are. >> Yeah. >> You know? >> Yeah. >> They have their [ __ ] together. It's like. it's almost impossible. So like you're. just comparing yourself to the other. chaotic people you're around and. >> you're the [ __ ] drummer in MLY Crew. I mean, how are you supposed to be. normal? What the [ __ ] are you talking. about? What kind of life is that? That's. such a bizarre life. It's the craziest.

life of all time. You're [ __ ]. slamming the drums on stage in front of. literally a sea of human beings singing. along to your music. That's nobody can. understand that. [gasps]. >> I know, man. Yeah, they've And yeah, they've seen it all. They've seen it. all. Like I put him to work out on tour, you know, just so you know, we could. hang out and spend time. You're like, you know, get him a a radio. All of a. sudden, they're part, one of my sons is.

part of the lighting crew helping those. guys. My other son is like, all he's all. he wants to know about is like, "Dad, I. want to be in charge of all the after. show passes. I'll go out while you're. playing and I'm going to hit all the. chicks." [laughter]. And like my son is out there just just. stack of passes. Come on back. afterwards. Come on back. you know, and. [snorts] then watching him like have. just just running it, right? It's just.

like. brings a tear to my eye, man. >> That's cool. That's very cool. When you. look back, like how much of a dream does. it feel? I mean, it's got to feel very. bizarre that you, you know, every young. guy who plays music wants to be in a. gigantic band. They all want to be rock. stars. And when it actually happens for. you and then you're looking back on it, like how [ __ ] surreal does it all. feel? >> It's Dude, I pinch myself still daily,

literally. And I'm. I'm just [ __ ] I don't know, man. I'm. just lucky to be here. I'm I'm lucky I. get to do this. I always say to people. like there's there's a couple of things. that are involved with that whole thing. There's. some luck, some talent, some timing of things. And when those. things kind of all line up, um, and it. happens for you, it just happens at. [ __ ] supersonic speeds where.

>> like a lot of it's a [ __ ] blur. Like. a ton of it's a blur where you have to. have somebody else like remind you. You're like, "Oh [ __ ] that's right. I. totally forgot we did that.". >> [laughter]. >> You know, like about crazy times. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's a trip, dude. I I I spend a. lot of time like. hanging on, [laughter]. >> right? >> [ __ ] Here we go. >> Did you get a chance like when you were. coming up to talk to any other rock. stars? Did anybody give you advice on.

how to handle things like what it's how. weird it's going to be? >> No. I'm trying to think of any sort of a. mentor kind of dude on like how to. survive the [ __ ]. >> Like pull Keith Richards aside and say, "Hey man, how about a few tips? [laughter]. >> How'd you do this? He's still here, >> bro. I saw them at Kota at the Circuit. of the Americas a couple years back.". >> They were [ __ ] incredible, man. Incredible. >> Insane. >> They're like, "What is How old is Keith,

>> dude?". >> Are they like 80? He's got to be. >> Mick is like 80, bro. Mick is moving. around and dancing and singing. >> Insane. >> Insane, >> dude. And I'll let me tell you a fun. quick little story here. Molly Crew gets. to open up for the Rolling Stones. This. was on Halloween. I forget what [ __ ]. year. Um, we're at some stadium and I. think it was Toronto. We got to open for. them and we were so [ __ ] pumped. We're like, "Dude, are you kidding me?

we get the [ __ ] do this. Um, anyway, we play we play our show back in the in. dressing room after we're done. The. Stones tour manager comes into the. dressing room and goes, "Tommy.". I was like, "Yeah." He goes, he goes, "Mick, Bronny, Keith would like to see. you." And [laughter] I was like, Brad, I [ __ ] head over there and. dude, this is.

20 minutes before they're to go on. I go. into their their world and they got they. bring a bartender around with them. So, there's a guy set up just slinging. [ __ ] drinks. Mi uh Mick isn't. hammered, but [ __ ] Keith and Ronnie, dude. They were [ __ ] walking on their. lips. I'm [laughter] talking shitty like. [ __ ] right just falling over with. their guitars.

>> 20 minutes before they go on stage. >> I'm like, how are these guys going to. [ __ ] There's no way they're playing. I'm sorry. There's no way. No [ __ ]. way. And all of a sudden, we took a. couple of photos and it was like, "Let's. go to the stage." And I'm like, "Oh, I. got to see this. I'm [laughter] walking. with them." Right? They get up there, [ __ ] lights go out. Boom. They. [ __ ] I think they started with Start. Me Up. and got them. And it was like a switch.

flipped. All of a sudden, those guys. were [ __ ] money. Like 100% [ __ ]. rocking out. I was like, "How did they. just go? They've been doing it for so. long that they just they're masters of. the controls. They're like, "Yeah, okay, >> I guess we can get this amount of [ __ ]. up and then we can go." Like, it's okay. >> I think some guys just That was a crazy. level. Like, >> I wish I saw that. >> You could barely talk and [laughter].

then they went up there and [ __ ]. ripped it. >> I wish I saw that. >> Some guys just want to be [ __ ] up to. just feel the experience. just to just. ride it like a wild bull, you know, >> just wherever you land. >> That's where some guys like to do it. I. mean, and rock, I don't have to tell. you, rock and roll music is the heart of. that. That's where it really goes down. where a lot of guys like to get [ __ ]. up before they play. You know, you want. to see something [ __ ] inspirational. I'm going to show you something crazy. >> Always. >> This is uh Have you seen Jamie? Have you.

seen uh Rick Springfield lately? I I did. just see him and I I was like, "Whoa, >> I'm going to send you a video and it's. going to blow you away. This is. literally bananas." This is Rick. Springfield. He's not [ __ ] like 76. years old. Okay. 76. >> 76. >> 76 and he's singing Jesse's Girl like he. just wrote it. >> Is it this video right here? >> And he's [ __ ]. >> Yeah. Play start for Put the headphones. on, >> bro. >> Put the headphones on and back this up.

from the beginning. [snorts]. >> Whoa. Oh, he's. >> Well, I just sent it to you on uh. Instagram. >> He's ripped. >> I just can't get the the. >> Click on the other link then. The one. that I send you on Instagram. >> because you can't First of all, he looks. [ __ ] incredible. Like he's working. out every day or something. I mean, I. don't even understand it. He looks like. a 30-year-old guy. >> Yeah. >> And he's singing this song like he just. wrote it, >> bro. 76.

I feel so dirty when they start talking. [music]. [music]. >> Yeah, dude. >> That's crazy. [ __ ].

[music]. Amazing, man. >> Amazing. >> That That's [ __ ] inspirational. Like. >> inspirational, bro. 76 years old. And. the passion and enthusiasm is what kills. me. This is not a guy who's like just. going out there and going through the. motions. He's singing that song like he. just wrote it. >> Yeah, totally. >> [ __ ] yeah, Rick Springfield. >> Yeah, good job, bro. >> Yeah, that's amazing. I I've been. sending that to everybody. I'm like, [ __ ] yeah. >> That is I saw that I saw that clip and I. was like, whoa. A lot of people in their.

76 are basically waiting to die. >> This dude's on stage with no shirt on. [ __ ] crushing life, >> dude. I [laughter] love it. I love it. That's gonna That's gonna be me still 10. years old rocking [ __ ]. >> Well, I remember in the 80s there were. no old rock stars. Like no one was out. there touring that was an old rock star. >> You're right. You're right. >> And then the Stones released a new. album. I think it was like 88 or 89 and. everybody was like, "Wow, they're going.

to tour again." It was almost like, "Aren't they done with this? Like. they're older now.". >> Yeah. >> And then it started being a thing where. a bunch of older guys would like go out. on tour that hadn't been on tour in a. while. And. >> now it's no and people are like, "Why. are we retiring? Like why why would I. stop doing the most amazing thing that a. human being ever gets to do?". >> Yeah. That you love to do. >> No, let me stop doing that. It was like. a thing with hip-hop, hip-hop artists, too. They would get to an older age and. people just didn't appreciate them.

anymore. It's like it was like a young. guy's game. But now a lot of those older. guys are going on tour too and people. realize like, "Oh, these guys are. [ __ ] dope." Like I saw Run DMC went. on or excuse me um uh Public Enemy went. on with uh I think it was. >> I think it was Bruce Springsteen. I. think Bruce Springsteen had them go up. in one of his concerts. I'm like, "Fuck. yeah. Look at these dudes. They're. killing it. They're still getting after. it. That's the best, man. You got to. love that. And I think that resur I.

don't know if you call it a resurgence. or just that that style of like there's. certain things that were that were. really great that have, you know, stood. the test of time. And I and I really. think that. ju the way [ __ ] is now, man, there is. too [ __ ] much. Like there's too much. music. Like Spotify releases like 300. [ __ ] thousand songs a day. >> Really?

>> Who the [ __ ] is listening to all this. music? Dude, I'm in the business. And if. I can't keep up, how can a fan of music. keep up? So, I just I think that the the. the. excess of it it's just static and it's. really blown a hole through for, you. know, uh original stuff, you know, um. really good stuff because a lot of the. stuff is all kind of sounding the same. now. And but I just I think that it's.

that it's been a a a cool progression. that's that's sort of fueled that. I. don't know if I'm making sense. I'm kind. of getting. >> No, you're making sense. >> You know what I'm trying to say? Like. there's so much static now that. >> um the the the the sort of the. >> something has to be undeniable to break. through. >> The authentic stuff still [ __ ] holds. water big time. And you know, >> well, there's always like one song that. all of a sudden resonates and just goes.

super viral because people listen to it. and go, "Holy shit.". >> Yeah. There's always going to be. something that's exceptional. But I do. agree. It's impossible. There's a lot of. great music that I don't know anything. about and then someone turns me on to it. and I'm like, "How the [ __ ] did I not. know this guy?". >> Yeah. Yeah. And had your friend not. turned you on to that, you would you'd. never [ __ ] know. >> Well, there's no real radio anymore. No. >> Right. So, how do you find out? When I. was a kid, when I was in high school, like if a new Mly Crew song came out, it.

was on the [ __ ] radio and then you. knew. All right, the new album's out. Let's go get the new album. And that was. with every major band. It was like, then. you got MTV. MTV came along. Oh, the. music video's out. The album's out. >> But now it's like anyone can just put. stuff up, you know, which is great. >> Yeah. Which. >> But it's also. >> it's look, it's it's all overall. positive because you have more artists. and more people that are doing what they. want to do. More people that are making.

music, which is awesome. >> But like it's the same thing with. movies. Can I imagine you had to watch. every movie ever made? You You'd have to. be a million years old. >> You'd [laughter] never finish. >> Exactly. >> There's not enough hours in the day. >> Yeah. It's the same It's the same. musically. what's happening musically that's. happening with everything entertainment, films, te television shows. There's. >> an abundance of like it's just too much. How do how do people I mean people got.

these you know uh you know. you know TV packages where they've got. subscriptions 4,000 different places and. you still can't find anything to watch. You're like [laughter]. what the what the [ __ ] is happening here. everybody? We got to like peel it back a. little bit. Make it a little easier. here. >> Well, there's so many options. >> It's almost like dating apps, right? Like if someone if some chick is chewing. her food with her mouth open up being. like swipe like [laughter].

who's next. Yeah. Like people get they. don't get a chance to know anybody. And. I think that's also the same thing with. movies and TV shows. Cuz if you're. watching Netflix, if you get bored for 3. seconds, you're like, "Fuck this movie. What else is on? Bip, you know, okay, try this one." And you watch that for 10. minutes, not [ __ ] this. I would like to. see their numbers of like how long. people actually watch a show or a movie. on Netflix before they shut it off. I. bet it's way different than in the past. I bet in the old days most people watch. the movie to the end. >> Sure. >> I bet now it's like 20%.

>> Oh, dude. If that. >> I'll bet. Yeah. Um I'm just going to say. a little bit more. >> if that. Yeah. Everybody It's short. attention span life right now. It's very. very bad for you. Yeah, sometimes you. got to just take something in. >> and and that and that affects the people. who create the stuff because you you. realize. >> I'm dealing with a bunch of [ __ ]. six-year-olds here [laughter]. and if if my [ __ ] isn't banging within. the first whether it's a movie or a song. or whatever it is, whatever your.

>> art is, >> if it's not [ __ ] ripping your face. off and grabbing your attention within. three or four seconds, you're you're. Next, next. >> Exactly. >> Next. When that's just the world we're. in. So that then that affects people who. make the the stuff because they they. really got to put the best [ __ ] up front. quick or else you're going to lose. everybody. >> 100%. >> And that's that sucks. >> Yeah. >> They don't have to give into that. >> Nobody's got time for for suspense or,

you know, ah, [ __ ] that. This summer, the Cup is taking over the US and only. DraftKings has you covered every step of. the way. Follow every group stage upset, every knockout round thriller, every. stoppage time moment that flips the. whole tournament. Sweat all the big. matches you love in real time with a. seamless experience built for the. world's biggest stage. No matter where. you're watching, you're always connected. and in the game with one app. New.

DraftKings customers sign up with code. Rogan. Spend five bucks to get 200 in. rewards within 21 days. That's code. Rogan in partnership with DraftKings. The crown is yours. Bet with DK. Sportsbook. Gambling Problem? Call 1800. gambler. 1800 my reset. New York, call. 8778 and wire. Text hope and Y. Connecticut, call 888789777. or visit ccpg.org. On behalf of bootill. casino in Kansas. Bet text pass through. may apply in Illinois. 21 and over. Void. in Ontario. Event contract trading with.

DraftKings. Predictions involves risk of. loss. Sportsbook bonus bets expire in 7. days. $50 in predictions dollars issued. weekly for 3 weeks expire in one year. Redeem one non-withdrawable reward. Availability varies. Predictions offer. void in New York. Ends June 28th. Terms. at dk&ng.co/audio. >> Well, think about some of the songs from. the past that would never pass muster. today that are just amazing classics. like Whole Lot of Love. So, A Whole Lot. of Love. You have a minute and a half. [ __ ] sounds with symbols before it comes. back to this insane guitar solo. Yeah. Right. >> Yeah. You're right. like you.

>> it's like the most bizarre song ever. >> Yeah. Kind of drum soloy kind of. >> Yeah. >> off. I And classically Freeird when. Leonard Skinnard released Freeird, they're like, "No, no, no. This song. takes way too long to get going. It's so. long. It's like a seven minute song. You. got to This is never going to fly." I. meanwhile is one of the greatest anthems. in the history of the world and perhaps. the greatest guitar solo in the history. of the [ __ ] human race.

>> Right. Right. >> You know, Freeird when that dude gets. going and you see it live and. everybody's. >> the whole [ __ ] place is going off. >> One of the greatest guitar solos in the. history of the [ __ ] human race. And. their record company was like, "It's too. long.". >> Yeah. >> People don't have any attention span for. this guys. >> God, even back then, people were [ __ ]. hating. Well, it's always the people. that are the money people because all. they give a [ __ ] about is money and. you're in the creative side of it and. the money people are just pimping out. the creative side of it and they're just.

trying to get you to suck as many dicks. as they can [laughter] because they want. to buy a Rolls-Royce. So, like come on, suck that dick. Let's go. And they don't. give a [ __ ] about you or your reputation. because then they got [ __ ] Nickelback. over here and this guy over there and. there's always a new band they can push. and pimp. Yeah. >> And so they just want to make the. maximum amount of money possible. So. they have always have shitty advice cuz. they advice their advice is based on. making money. >> Yeah. Yeah. And for that and [snorts]. for that reason.

>> um when we were on uh Electro Records. they were never allowed in the studio. No one from the label was ever about. We. allowed them once and he came in and. started making like. >> making changes or suggesting edits and. stuff. We're like. >> out. out. >> Yeah. >> You'll get it when it's done here. >> Oh god. So gross. >> Yeah, dude. >> And here here's some guy making those. kind of calls who has no not a musician.

Has no idea about what key the [ __ ]. song's in. All he knows is it's too. long. Yeah. >> And we got to get to it quicker. >> Well, it's these people that have ego. for no real reason. They're just kind of. they're just involved with other great. creative people and that's what they. sell. That's their business is to sell. stuff that's awesome. And somehow or. another they think it makes them. awesome. >> Yeah. >> It's very weird. Like you know Zack. Bryan, he's got a great song called uh.

Dam I think it's Damn Cold Vampires or. Cold Damn Vampires. It's a great [ __ ]. song about. >> It's a [ __ ] tongue twister. >> It's a great [ __ ] song. It's about. the music industry and it's about these. vampires that are just just sucking. blood out of these artists and was a. great song the great line of the song. trying to make make an empire of the. things that you create. >> They're making an empire from other. people's work. That's what they're. doing. But they somehow or another think. that they're responsible and that they.

have an insight and they're I'm good at. my job, Tommy Lee. And let me tell you. something, kid. I know music. And that. drum solo 14 seconds too long. [laughter]. >> I'm going to tell you why. I'm going to. show you these statistics. So this is. what we've got a guy. We got the best. guy. The best statistics guy. He knows. when people are t and when they get to. this [ __ ] part of the drum solo, they. tune out. Tommy, >> we got to stop them from tuning out. >> Totally. because I want to get a Konis. egg. I want to get one of them [ __ ]. $2 million cars. You know, [laughter].

these [ __ ] they're just they're they. exist in every every walk of life where. one person is like, you know, a creative. type that's not businessoriented. And. you need a business person. Yes. >> So, the business people come in cuz. they're someone's got to sell it. You're. not going to [ __ ] sell it. What are. you going to do? You got to make your. own record company. You got to hire your. own executives and to do your own. promotion. Get the [ __ ] out of here. You. can't. So they come along and they get. involved and they [ __ ] it all up. >> Yeah. >> And how many guys have listened to them. and ruined their careers because they.

listen to him? >> Oh man. >> Do you know the Billy Squire story? >> So Billy remind me cuz I think I. >> Billy Squire was the [ __ ] when I was in. high school. He had that song Lonely as. the Night. Oh my god. >> I I love Billy Squire. >> dude. The stroke. He was fantastic. And. he did one music video where it was like. very effeminite. It was like really. weird. >> Oh, was it when it was he was in his. pajamas or something? >> It was really weird. And everybody was.

like, "Nope.". >> Yeah. What is he doing? >> Yeah, it was really weird. And to this. day, I don't know if that was his idea. or somebody else's idea. They just took. a wild chance. I don't know. I pray to. God it was his idea because at least. like he's creative. He made a creative. decision. didn't work out, whatever. >> Yeah, fine. >> But if someone tanked his career because. they wanted him to act feminine in in a. song, it was like very the reaction was.

crazy because this guy was like a sex. symbol. He was like, you know, shirt. down to his, you know, open up down to. his pants and [ __ ] he was a bad. [ __ ] on stage. Sing his ass off. HE'S A STAR. One music video tanked him. I think it was my kind of lover. I think. that was the song where. >> See if you can find what the the video. was. This is it. >> There's a [clears throat] documentary. someone made on uh Facebook I found it. >> about this whole thing. Yeah. >> So like this this is it.

>> Yeah. So it's it was very weird. Like. >> what song is it? Can you hear? >> Uh well yeah we're going to have to cut. it up though. >> So it was somebody else's idea. Is that. that guy with the face? That guy with. the faces looks like the guy looks like. the kind of guy that would tell you give. you [ __ ] Yeah, he's crawling around on. his knees and his hands is at his knees. >> It was weird. It was very weird. >> [ __ ] What song was this? >> Like just. >> you know like if he was like look at. this. Look at him skipping around and it.

was very odd. That guy that seems like. the type of guy that would give you the. bad advice. >> Something me tonight. >> What's the name of the song? >> I want to. >> [ __ ]. >> I don't know. I'll look up. familiar. with that title. >> Yeah, I don't know either. >> But I know. Yeah, I get it. [clears throat] I remember that. >> And everybody's like, "Nope.". >> Yeah, >> that's a rap. And that guy should have. had like [ __ ] 50 giant albums. That. guy was amazing. >> Yeah. >> Such a incredible singer, man. >> So, [clears throat]. Rock Me Tonight, 1984.

[singing]. [music]. >> Have to cut that out. >> Yeah, we'll cut that part out. But you. can see him dancing around like Look at. this. Yeah. >> Don't do that, buddy. What is this? He's. like, [laughter]. >> "Yeah, what? >> Don't do that.". >> Yeah. We need you on the ground swarming. around. Hopefully. >> I hopefully it was his idea. >> Yeah. And he just. >> My god, if this was somebody else's. idea, like I want you to be looser. I. want you to be looser. I want you to be. more more free. >> I want you I want you to be like I want. to feel it. I want to feel I want to.

feel your vulnerable side. I want you on. your hands and knees. I want you. crawling. [laughter] This is what I want. you to I want you like this. Like. [clears throat] you barely can crawl. Like you're having a hard time crawling. That's what girls like. Girls like a guy. who struggles to crawl. >> Yes, dude. [laughter]. >> Oh, what the [ __ ] did you do to him? >> Oh my god. >> WHAT DID YOU DO TO HIM? >> I KNOW. [laughter]. I hope it was his idea. Despite its. major success, the song is sometimes. associated with the end of his career as.

a singles musician due to the music. video, which is described as one of the. worst ever in a 2011 book I Want My MTV: The Uncensored Story of the Music Video. Revolution. >> Wow. [sighs]. >> Shows Squire dancing around in a bed. with pastel colored satin sheets and. wearing a pink tank top. Squire's. concert ticket sales immediately. declined and he later fired his. managers. He has accused Ortega of. deceiving him and altering his original. concept, which Ortega denies. While.

Squire remains steadfast that the video. was solely responsible for the initial. decline of his popularity, other. commentators are less certain. Well, I'm. pretty certain. I remember it. I. remember it. I remember kids in high. school going, "What the [ __ ] bro? >> What [laughter] the [ __ ] is Billy Squire. doing, bro? That shit's gay, bro.". >> Cuz Billy Squire was the man. I mean, >> he could have been another John Melon. camp. He could have been He could have. gone on forever. >> for sure. >> Like what the [ __ ] dude? 84 one song, one music video.

>> Insane. That is really crazy if you. think about it. >> Yeah. >> It's nuts. >> Well, that's the craziest thing about. you think about like the success of Mly. Crew and of bands like from your era. The fact that you guys endured for so. long. Like still to this day, bro, if. I'm working out in the gym and kickstart. my heart comes on, I swear to God I get. stronger. [laughter].

[ __ ] YOU. LIKE YOU GET PUMPED, MAN. That's that be that song's a drug. Yeah, that one, man. I can't tell you how fun. how how um rewarding that is to like sit. back and like I don't know, the Super. Bowl's on and the [ __ ] KICKOFF YOU. DUDE, WE GOT TO CUT IT OUT, but I want. to hear it. Throw Kickstart my heart on. We'll cut it. We have to cut it out for. YouTube. Otherwise, we'll get docked. with. >> the [ __ ] money people come involved.

Meanwhile, we're just promoting music. Godamn it. With Tommy Lee, you. [ __ ]. >> Yeah, right. >> But this [ __ ] this [ __ ] song. Oh, is this live? Don't give me a live one. Give me the actual one. Bro, that was. one of the most American songs that's. ever been made. [laughter] Ever. Ever. [clears throat]. That song is fuel. You know that that. song is [ __ ] fuel. If you were. running in a race and you're thinking. about quitting and that song comes on. your headphones, you're like, "Let's. [ __ ] go. LET'S [ __ ] GO.". [laughter]. >> YOU KNOW, like songs like that, they.

really do give you energy. They're they. really are like a drug. >> Yeah, they're [snorts] they're. definitely uh they're injected. >> Yeah. Like changes your state, you know? >> I love that one. Isn't that [ __ ]. wild? the power that music has. Like the. Reich kind of song, you know, everybody's different, but there's. nothing better than like it [ __ ] like. I get [ __ ] goosebumps, bro. If. something comes along that just and it. it gets inside you. Yeah.

>> It's [ __ ] infectious. And all of a. sudden you're like, dude, it's taking. over my whole body. I'm [ __ ] tingling. my hair standing up. >> and you're like, what is that? >> Yeah. >> What the [ __ ] is that? Like I I want to. [ __ ] bottle that up and try to. recreate whatever that is. >> Yeah. It's a it's just an encapsulation. of emotion with sound frequencies that. just changes your physical state. It. does something to you that's like it's. one of the most amazing creations that.

human beings. >> have have ever done. One of the one of. the most amazing accomplishments that. human beings have ever done is that just. make incredible music. >> because it's one of the things that it. affects us in a way that like like. nothing else and you can hear them over. and over and over and over again. Like a. great joke is awesome the first time, >> but after you hear it the second time it. loses a little of its power. The third. time it gets a little boring. >> A a great song I could listen to that I. sometimes when I'm working out I just. put something on repeat. I'm like, "Oh,

I just want to hear this song, one song. over and over and over again. Wear that. [ __ ] out, but I don't care. It's so. good. I don't give a [ __ ] I I just want. to feel let's [ __ ] go." And every. time it comes back on, [ __ ] yeah. And. we're back. You know, it's like it's it. changes the frequency of your actual. soul. Like your body gets moved by it. You feel different. >> You I want to ask you a question because. you're into all this [ __ ] crazy [ __ ]. Um, I saw somewhere recently, and this just.

goes along with that feeling, euphoric. feeling you get when the the right notes. or frequencies. uh hit you. Um I saw that through sound. certain frequencies like some dude in. China, some doctor in China or is it. Japan has is this close to healing. [ __ ] cancer through through sound. through frequency?

>> Really? >> Have you No, I haven't seen that seen. any of this. >> I haven't seen it, but I wouldn't be. surprised. I I wouldn't either because. uh you know it it just fascinates me. because there is those frequencies out. there that you know about them 432 432. hertz you heard about that stuff. um. >> explain to people. So, >> well, it's just um. there there's some weird uh what do you. call it? Conspiracy theories about. originally our music like Bach Beethoven.

back in those days was tuned to 432. hertz. and and this is the conspiracy [ __ ]. part about it at some point and People. say Hitler changed the the the tuning, the pitch of music and now everything. was raised to 440 instead of, you know,

uh. >> 432. >> Instead of 432, now it's at 440. It's it's up and. [snorts] it's and the frequency is more. aggressive. And it was it said that it. was done to give the soldiers more. [ __ ] you know, angst and crank this. music. >> Well, they were also given a meth. >> Excuse me. >> They were also given the meth between. meth and kickstart my heart. [laughter]. >> [ __ ] so. >> If the Nazis had kickstart my heart. would have been a real problem,

>> dude. No. [laughter] No. >> Kickstart my heart in German. >> Yeah. >> Oh my lord. >> Yeah, that would have been a real. problem. >> Yeah. I just I'm just curious because I. know that you're into that kind of. stuff. um if the any sound uh therapy or. healing through through frequencies uh. if you've heard any of that stuff. >> Well, I know people do sound baths where. you know they'll do these meditation. experiments where they lie on their back. and they have someone like that that's. making sounds and. >> there's something to it. But just think. about like what we were saying with. Kickstart My Heart like when you you.

hear a great song it changes the way you. feel. It changes your feeling. It gives. you more energy. It really does. So. obviously sound has a profound effect on. the human body and it's not just like. you inter there's a lot of aspects to a. great song right it's the sound it's. also the messaging that's in the lyrics. it's like there's a lot of go there's a. lot going on the the voice of the singer. you know the the visuals of everybody. [ __ ] rocking out on stage. >> sure. >> that also contributes to it but the. actual sound itself is affecting your.

body in a very profound way and I. wouldn't be surprised that there's ways. that sound could provide like. therapeutic. therapeutic uh benefits to like people. that are injured, that are healing, sickness. I'm sure. I mean, if you were. lying in a hospital bed and you felt. like [ __ ] because you just had surgery, but you're listening to some dope music, wouldn't that be better than just. listening to people moan in the next. room like, >> "Fuck, get me out of here.". >> Yeah. You're inputting something. nice. >> Should be a part of your recovery.

>> Yeah, for sure. getting positive vibes. in, getting like things that give you. good feeling and good energy. >> I do that all the time, man. I'll sit at. home if you know when you're in the mood. to not really listen to music, but hear. music where it's just playing in the. background. And I I'll I'll just put. there's these YouTube videos of um these. beautiful. Japanese gardens in Kyoto or whatever. And there's like high deaf shots of.

these just beautiful, you know, bonsai. trees, koi [snorts] ponds, uh, big naki. bonsai, like and it's just so chill. And. with that music and I just I just put it. on and it's kind of on a lot actually. And I find myself that's where I go to. like. >> just like I don't know. >> Yeah. It puts you in a different state. >> Puts me in a different space, you know? I I dig it, man. You got really into. bonsai. >> Yeah, dude.

>> How did that start? >> All the all the times that we've gone to. Japan, I every sing every time I went. there, I always went to the to the. Japanese gardens of the temples and I. would just I'd walk around and just be. like my jaw on the floor like I've never. seen anything this [ __ ] peaceful and. beautiful and just like I don't know. was just came over this feeling every. time I went I came over me and I just I. started studying it. This is like eight.

years ago. I was like I I I need this in. my life somehow. I don't know what this. is but let me go down you know down the. down the tube here and figure out what. that what that is and how I can get this. some of this into my life. And I found. [snorts] some [ __ ] videos on doing. bonsai work on trees. And I I started. and I haven't stopped. And it's been. hands down the coolest [ __ ] thing. I've ever gotten into, man. Like I'll be.

out there for hours every day. Like I'll. start my day just being with nature and. being with the trees that I'm working. on. And I got like a workshop, dude. It's like a there's like in progress uh. works on the bench. There's other ones. on bending. Uh there's ones that um you. know uh uh treating for pests, you know. Um there's it's a whole world and wiring. everything, training it to where you. want to go, pruning. It's just it it.

lets me escape everything for a couple. of hours. I I just I just I don't know, man. I just I check out. >> How many years you've been doing this. now? >> I've been probably eight years now I've. been doing it. Eight years. >> And so is a bonsai tree a regular tree. that would grow big if you didn't [ __ ]. with it? >> Yes. Yes. >> Okay. And then you can get it to this. incredible beautiful artistic shape. years. Small.

>> Yes. It's you're you're basically you. keep kind of dwarfing it and the and. everybody gets this confused. Um, and. they just think uh bonsai is like that's. the the tree. Bonsai means tree and pot. That's what that that means actually. It. doesn't mean the actual bonsai tree. It. means tree and pot. And. >> how long is the study of bonsai? How. long is the practice been around? >> Dude, I [ __ ] I have no idea. And you and.

you find that other parts of the world. now that you get into it. I mean there's. in Taiwan and China there are some. [ __ ] insane Bonsai and I think it. actually originated in China and the. Japanese took it and altered it in ways. and did it their sort of their version. but I think it originated in China if. I'm not mistaken. >> Something like that. Yeah. Uh 6th. century China and then they brought it. >> [ __ ] dude. >> Wow. >> [ __ ] Wikile over here. [laughter].

So, don't you have a tree that's 300. years old? >> Yes, I do. Over 300. I have I have I. have two of them that are over 300 years. old. >> So, someone was working on them over 300. years ago. >> Well, either that or it was collected maybe a. hundred years ago and then over that. time it's just constantly been, you. know, cut back and cut back like what. you'll do. >> But it's a part of a tree that's 300.

years ago. >> Yeah. It's It's still It's the same. tree, >> right? >> But it's just It's never been. [clears throat] It's It's always getting. its roots cut. >> Is that it? Is that your tree? The 300-y. old tree? >> No, no, no. That's just a That's just a. a a small juniper that I have. >> It's beautiful. >> The 300y old one is a is a redwood. >> It's [ __ ] trunk on it like this and. it's smashed into a pot about this big. >> That seems rude. >> It's about not [laughter] that. for.

redwood. That seems rude cuz if you go. to like Northern California and you. [clears throat] go to the redwood. forest, they're [ __ ] spectacular. >> Yeah, >> those things are wild. >> Insane. >> That redwood forest is so incredible. There's the one that you drive through. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> They cut a hole in it in like the 1920s. or whatever. >> It's really I can't believe they did. that. But the tree is still alive and. you drive through the tree. It's so. crazy. >> That was cool, too. Yeah, that that that. one I showed um not too long ago in a.

exhibition. >> Oh, so you go to bonsai shows. >> Yeah, I I I just started entering some. of my trees that I've been working on. Uh I've I've done two so far. I just now. like just this year uh entered a couple. trees. >> That's awesome. >> The rest of the this these other seven. years or eight years of practicing is. just learning, you know? >> What a cool hobby. >> Yeah, it's it's [ __ ] rad, dude. It. really is. It's also like the complete. opposite of being a rock star.

>> Totally. >> Like what a great balancing tool, [laughter]. >> you know? >> I know, man. It's It's interesting. because a lot of lot of, you know, my my. peers, musical buddies, like they're. they're all of them are super. interested. They're like, "Dude, what. what's up with the bonsai?" Like, I like. they they're curious. They want to know. >> cuz maybe they've seen. >> me, you know, maybe change a little bit. over the years or they've seen how much. joy it [ __ ] brings me and they're. like, I think I want some of that. I'm.

not sure. >> Well, there's something about like a zen. garden that you associate with like. bonsai and peacefulness and clarity. >> Yes. >> You know, just peace of mind. >> Yeah. >> Just clean mind. Like your mind is pure. or you're like you're really in the. moment. >> rather than just being a [ __ ] mess. ordering Uber Eats. [laughter]. >> You know what I mean? Yeah. >> It's like there's something that that's. very spiritually attractive to people. about th those practices. >> Yes. And and that and that's it too. It.

it really has a lot to do with sort of. the the the. culture [clears throat] of all of it. Like when you start going down that hole. about design and all that stuff, you. start to you start to realize that. everything that at least the Japanese um. do is with such [ __ ] purpose. Like. you'll notice in you know and I didn't. notice this stuff until later. I was. like, "Oh, I get it now. There's serious. rules about how they build a Zen garden.

You'll never find a straight path. Ever. I don't care how far you look, you'll never find a straight path going. through a a Zen garden. They. specifically and strategically. curve the path to slow you down. When. you get to when you get when soon as you. walk into a garden, the number one. >> objective is to get you to slow the [ __ ]. down. And there's no straight path. and.

everything. You don't nothing becomes. revealed to you until you come around. that corner. So you're always even if. there if you're going across a a lake or. a pond, there's never a straight very. rarely a straight bridge. It's either. arked or the bridge zigzags. across. There's never a straight line. And what. what that's how that's what that's meant. to do is get you to stop at each corner.

and look out and just take take it in. and [ __ ] be present. >> And and that's to me it's like that's. the deeper meaning of all this for me. It it's really got me to slow the [ __ ]. down because everything is just kind of. >> right. >> all the time. So, you know, that it's. just I get I don't know how to explain. it sometime. It's hard to explain that.

state, but that that's what I that's. what I get from it. And every day, it's. the best way to start start your day, man. It can only get [ __ ] amazing. after that because you're you kind of. set yourself up for having a [ __ ]. super rad day. Like, [laughter] do you. know what I mean? Like, like, I'm good. Let's go. >> Right. Well, it makes sense. I mean, there's something about those Zen. gardens that's so attractive to people. Yeah. >> It's obvious there's something going on. with that design, with that flow of.

nature and the way it's artistically. pieced together. It's very exciting to. people. >> And you see it, man. I don't know if. you've noticed, you had to notice. You. see it in a lot of the like newer. architecture. A lot of [ __ ] designs. and homes are being built with that sort. of very minimal um Japanese. flavor that is just meant to have your. home be a peaceful place and not like a. [ __ ] museum or this or that. Like. it's really.

>> um Yeah. >> Yeah. It's more It's more peaceful like. in the actual design itself. >> versus like some house with big giant. ass [ __ ] windows overlooking the big. city and [ __ ] rocks everywhere and. like slow down. >> Yeah. Yeah. And I've had that. I've done. that before with the house on the top of. the hill with the views. And I mean, the. view is just kind of the view. It. doesn't really do anything. >> It's very different than having, you. know, a beautiful winding.

sanctuary to to to to cruise through. You know, >> I think nature is very therapeutic and. if you can put nature in an artistic. form like a zen garden, >> it's very therapeutic. But that's a way. better view. The view of nature is a way. always a way. Well, look, you whenever I. go to New York City and I'm staying in a. hotel and I'm in the middle and you see. all the buildings like, "Wow, this is. crazy. You're in the center of it. This. is [ __ ] dope." [laughter]. But I don't want to live there. >> Right. Right. >> I like to visit, but I don't think it's.

good for me at least. I don't think it's. good for my head space to live there. I. like to see trees. >> I like to see nature. I like to see. green. I like to see things that are. alive. That makes me feel better. >> Yeah. You know, it's funny, dude. I tell. people I think I think I was a [ __ ]. tree like in a past life because. [laughter]. I I'm I'm I'm like maybe you were a tree. too. I'm like you like the I don't know. if you're like this gnarly about it but. every time I go into a city the first. thing I look look at is the trees. Like.

whether it's a big city wherever I'll. find the tree because that's the first. thing I'm looking for. >> I don't look at the buildings. I don't. look, you know, up and or down. I'm I'm. always like looking for the tree. >> and it's it's just it I don't know, man. >> Well, human beings are very connected to. plants where they're very connected to. nature, period. It's one of the most. brilliant things that the designers of. New York City did is make Central Park. >> Ah, have that giant park. It's an.

enormous park in the center of the city. I was staying at a hotel last year and. it was like on the edge of the park and. like from the window you look out you. see the whole park like straight like. this is [ __ ] incredible that they did. that cuz it's so big and it's it's just. trees. It's just trees and paths and. little lakes and everything and go. wander around like hey get the [ __ ] out. of these buildings for a while. And it's. like for a person living in New York. City having that right there in the. center is gigantic. I don't know what.

percentage of people take advantage of. it, but they should all It would make. them all better. It'd all feel better. >> It's a little center retreat, man. >> Oh, an amazing one. It's [ __ ] huge. Like, how many acres is Central Park? Let's find that out. Let's guess. >> I'm going to guess 1,000 acres. If I had to guess, maybe 2,000 acres. How big is it? >> 843. >> Yeah, 843 acres. So, it's this amazing.

huge park in the center of the biggest. city in the world and you see all these. giant crazy [ __ ] buildings and then. none of them in the center. It's. beautiful. >> [ __ ] props to that those people or. whoever that didn't sell that space. >> How many [ __ ] vampires are trying to. take over that and put a big shitty ass. building in the middle of it? We don't. need 800 acres. 500 acres is plenty. Plenty plenty [laughter] plenty. We'll. just make those 500 acres even better. and no one's going to complain. Put on a.

bunch of money [ __ ]. >> Yeah. Hats off to homeless and whatever. we're going to do. >> Whoever like held that down for them, man. >> They've lost a few parks. That's one of. our shows that we do with uh Ari Shafir, Shane Gillis, and Mark Norman is protect. our parks. >> Oh, but we're not really protecting. parks. We're just getting drunk and. talking [ __ ] It's called Protect Our. Parks because Ari on one of the early. episodes was ranting and raving about. they're going to [ __ ] take down this. park and turn it into apartment. buildings and they wound up doing it. They they killed the park.

>> Oh man, >> vampires. They just want to suck out all. the trees and just make money. These. dirty [ __ ]. >> Oh man, pretty soon they going to have. no place to go, man. >> Yeah. Well, I think Central Park is. safe. And that's the greatest park in. the world. It really is the greatest. park in any city in the world. It's so. crazy you mentioned that because on the. way here I was flicking through. Instagram and I saw. sorry that this happened. Um some dude. got killed that one of the horses took,

you know, the horse and buggy thing. >> just [ __ ] launched and you see the. dude that the horse flips the cart. >> and the dude gets flung out and then he. dies. He died on the way to the. hospital. Why did the horse freak out? Do we know what happened? I. >> I I don't It didn't show it. It just. showed like somebody else has had. footage of it like just the horse. freaking out. >> Oh [ __ ]. >> And then peeling out and you see the.

thing flip over and you're like, "Oh. man, dude.". >> You know, I love horses and I'm not a. fan of horses walking around the city. I. think it's [ __ ]. >> I get that people think it's romantic to. ride on the back of a buggy with a. horse. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> It's not right. >> No. A horse is supposed to be in the. [ __ ] fields and the mountains. A. horse is supposed to be running around. and eating, >> clicking around on the asphalt. Dude, [ __ ] all that. I don't like it. It's. just a gross touristy thing. I mean, it's cool to see them every now and. then,

>> you know? I know cops like to use them. when they're breaking up riots and [ __ ]. which is kind of crazy. But the the. reality is a horse is not supposed to be. there. Just like a cow's not supposed to. be there. If you had cows walking down. the street, you'd be like, "Why the [ __ ]. is this cow here?" This was likely an. accident cuz the uh driver Yeah, the. driver I guess they call him wasn't. >> Oh, dude. >> In the right spot. Like left his seat. >> What? >> Yeah. He left. >> never supposed to leave their seat. It. says to take maybe a photo of the. passengers in the carriage and when the. family was climbing back in horse got. spooked.

>> Oh no. >> It happened very fast. But. >> yeah, the driver's not in it. The. driver's not in it, dude. It just peels. out. >> Oh [ __ ] man. And you see it just go and. just made a make kind of a hard right. and the buggy just. [ __ ]. >> flips over and go. >> I don't [ __ ] with horses, man. >> Yeah, dude. >> I don't ride them. I have I've ridden a. horse before. I don't like it, >> dude. I've [laughter] same here. I've. done it. I got my ass thrown off. >> Yeah. >> And I was like, I'm good. I'm cool.

>> It's just not good. It's just I mean. look. >> if you're a a cowboy and you're riding. horses and everything that's kind of a. different thing. >> Sure. >> You know if you're doing it every day. that's a different thing but for me it's. like I don't need to ride them. I get it. >> for entertainment purposes. >> It's like I went to Thailand and we rode. elephants. We had to ride elephants and. the elephants don't mind because you. establish a relationship with them. first. You feed them sugar cane and you. know you pet them and you hang out with. them and then they decide whether or not. you're cool. And if you give them like.

peaceful, gentle, friendly energy, they're like, "Sure, come on up." And. they lift their leg up and you step on. top of them and you climb on their back. and they gently take you through the. jungle. But I'm like, "I didn't need to. do that. I could have just hung out with. them. That would have been plenty cool. I'm happy just feeding them. I don't. need to ride them.". >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Like King Chimp. I'm King Chimp on the. big ass [ __ ] elephant. Look at me. [laughter]. >> You know, it's very weird. Yeah. It's. weird. But, >> you know, people like it and they're. beautiful animals. >> Oh my god, they're beautiful.

>> I don't need to ride animals. I I get. it. People like to do it. I don't have a. problem with people doing it, but it's. not me. >> Yeah, I'm rather Look at them. >> I'm with you. >> Yeah. But horses and people have like a. crazy relationship. You know, people. that have horses like they they're. bonded to that animal like no other. animal. >> Oh, yeah. I I I know a few that are just. like horse whisperer kind of [ __ ] like. where you're like whoa this is this is. some next level love.

>> Yeah, they do a lot of there's there's a. therapy with that too. They do incline. therapy for a lot of people. >> I did that one time at out a rehab. They. took us to have like a couple of days. with just with horses and it was cool. man. I get it. >> Yeah, >> I get it. Yeah. >> Well, again it's like just like the. trees and the forest. It's like. something peaceful about horses. >> Yeah. >> You know, they're mostly most of the. time they're especially if they're. broken, they're pretty chill. They just. want to hang out. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You come up and pet them and they like. it and it's like, wow. [laughter].

>> Like, oh, >> puts you in check. >> Their big ass teeth freak me out when. you're feeding them. You're like, you. don't want to get your fingers in there, dude. >> People have been bitten by them, too. >> Chompers. >> If you're someone's [clears throat] a. dick, you get a horse annoyed and they. bite you like, bro. >> Oh, dude. >> Yeah. That's got to [ __ ]. >> Can you imagine all that jaw power, >> dude? The size of her [ __ ] head. [laughter]. >> Just clamping down on your hand. [ __ ]. you. I want a carrot, [ __ ].

Give me the [ __ ] carrot. [laughter]. >> That's so rad. You can smoke in here. >> Yes, I can. >> Yeah, I smoke cigars. >> Of course, I'll fire up with you. All. right. How long you been smoking? >> God, forever. >> You ever tried to quit? >> I have. And I quit for a This is a few. years ago. I quit for like.

[ __ ]. I almost made it a year and then I was. like, "God, I got to feel like after a. few months you're out of the woods.". >> Yeah. I It I don't know. It just didn't. It didn't last. It [laughter] just. didn't [ __ ] last, man. >> What brought you back? >> Um, you know what? Probably because I was drinking at the. time. Like, they kind of go hand in. hand. If you're having a cocktail or a. beer or whatever, you're having a smoke.

Chances chances are, >> right? >> And I don't know, man. I was just. >> you're sitting there and you're having a. drink and you're like, where's a. cigarette? It's just I don't know. It's. like rock and roll. They just go. together for some reason. So, I failed. >> Well, why did why did you quit. originally? What was the. >> um. >> was the thought behind it? >> Um. I think I was just trying to quit. [ __ ] everything, you know? You just.

like, that's it. [ __ ] everything. I'm. just going to take a break and [ __ ]. hit the reset button on everything. I. think I was going through that phase cuz. I hadn't never tried that. [laughter]. tried everything else but nothing. Um. uh and yeah, I don't know, man. >> It's the last vice of a lot of people in. recovery. >> Yeah. And then you and you got and then. you know you got guys like Keith. Richards who's just ripping cigarettes. still and I'm like he's fine. [laughter].

and and like I I've I've gotten I've. gotten my [ __ ] my lungs and done the. whole like pruvo like body scan to see. all your [ __ ] and they're like you're. good. I'm like. are you sure? Wait, let me see the like. you know the the the paperwork is this a. different lease or a different guy like. because that's [ __ ] impossible. They're like, "You're good.".

I was like, "All right." So that there's. really no reason to quit. >> Well, there's a it's actually a very. small percentage of people Well, first. of all, it's a very small percentage of. people that get lung cancer, the general. population. And then when you add in. cigarette smokers, it's a small. percentage of cigarette smokers that get. lung cancer. >> Oh. >> But more cigarette smokers get lung. cancer than regular people. And so. that's why when you look at the. percentage of people that get lung.

cancer that smoke cigarettes, that's why. it looks so high. >> Ah, >> so if you like let's let's find the. numbers. Put it into perplexity, please. >> Let's uh what percentage of cigarette. smokers get lung cancer? >> And I think it's less than 5%. I think. it's a very small number. And then you. got to think people that are smoking. cigarettes, how many of them are smoking. two, three packs a day? >> Oh yeah, that that's crazy. I don't. >> And how many of them are smoking just a. few cigarettes a day?

>> I bet a lot. I bet a lot of people that. are a little hesitant, they only smoke. like a half a pack. >> or a little bit less. >> Yeah. >> Like, so what does it say, Jamie? >> It's still calculating. >> No, typing it. Sorry. Oh, sorry. >> And isn't there something about like. nicotine? Like when COVID happened, they. were like, "If you're a smoker, you're. good." And I never got [ __ ] CO. >> Yes. [clears throat]. >> And I was like, "Yay, nicotine." Well, there's something about smoking. cigarettes that's supposed to be like. really good to prevent COVID and they.

it's really confusing to people. >> So crazy. >> Yeah. Uh 10 to 20% of people who smoke. at some point in their lives will. develop lung cancer. >> with many studies landing about 15%. I. thought it was a lot less than that. large study estimates that 15 out of a. 100 current smokers will get lung cancer. over the but that's estimated from a. study another analysis found roughly one. in seven current smokers develop lung. cancer. people who never smoke have a 1 to 2%. chance or lifetime risk of lung cancer.

>> Wow. >> Yeah. people who never smoke. O overall. only a minority of smokers get lung. cancer, but smoking still causes about. 80 to 90% of the lung cancer death. Oh, this is something we talked about. yesterday, Jamie, that we forgot to look. up. Um, there was some sort of a study. that's connecting people that live in. Europe that have high polyphenol diets, like so they have like they they use a. lot of olive oil. >> Oh, yeah. And olive oil seems to. protect. And it's a very controversial.

statement because people think, "Oh my. god, you're promoting cigarettes." I. don't think they're promoting. cigarettes. I just think they're just. looking at data that these people that. have high olive oil content in their. diets seem to not have any problems with. cigarettes or not have nearly as many. problems. >> Oh wow. >> Yeah. Which makes sense cuz olive oil is. so good for you. You got to think it's. got to balance out a lot of the free. radicals and [ __ ] that you're. getting from life. >> Yes. It makes sense that it would apply. to smoking as well. >> You totally Yeah, that's Yeah, I heard. that. That's.

>> So, smoke them if you got them. >> [ __ ] dude. >> Get some extra virgin olive oil. Let's. [ __ ] go. >> Dip them. [laughter]. >> Dip them like sherm. Have you ever tried. sherm? >> Yeah. A long time ago. >> Did you Whoa. >> Yeah. [ __ ] high school days, man. Absolutely. >> People in Europe who eat high polyphenol. diets but still uh but smoke still face. the full very high health risks of. smoking. Diet cannot cancel out. cigarette damage. It can only modestly. improve overall risk markers. But uh.

there was an article that I had read. that they were connecting it. They were. talking about Europeans. Yeah, here it. is. especially meditarian rich uh plant. diets. Consume substantial polyphenols. from fruits, vegetables, and whole. grains, tea, olive oil, and wine. Holy. polyphenol intake is linked to more to. uh better cardiovascular risk profiles. and lower long-term heart disease risk. and overall overall mortality in. observational studies because that's the. other thing about cigarettes. It's not.

just cancer, it's also heart disease. And so polyphenols have antioxidants and. anti-inflammatory effects, but current. evidence does not show they can. neutralize the cardiovascular cancer or. lung damage risk from smoking. What it. means for smokers, >> haters, [laughter]. >> you have to have some vices. Most of the. people I know that in Alcoholics. Anonymous, they [ __ ] drink coffee. every day and they smoke cigarettes. >> Yeah. >> Big percentage of them.

>> Ripping cigarettes. Yeah, >> cuz it gets you a little high. >> Yeah. >> But it's like a very manageable high. Yeah. Like the cigarette high is like, "Oh, I'm all right.". >> Yeah. It's just like a little. lightheaded. >> Yeah. >> Okay, cool. >> But also like good for cognitive. function, you know? >> Oh, >> like you know Pink Floyd when they wrote. The Wall, they were high as [ __ ] on. cigarettes. Those guys smoke cigarettes. all day long. >> What? >> Yeah. Yeah. Those dudes smoked a ton of. cigarettes. >> Get out of here. Is that coffee, dude? >> Get in there, dog. >> [ __ ] yeah. Thank you, bro.

>> My pleasure. Yeah. Yeah. Tony Hinchcliff. told me that and he's a a giant. cigarette fan. >> Um Stephen King said that too. When he. stopped smoking cigarettes, it affected. his writing. >> Oh, whoa. >> Yeah. He said his kidnaps just didn't. fire as fast anymore. >> It's like that was one of the things. that I really noticed when I quit. smoking. >> That's wild. >> Yeah. >> Huh. >> Doesn't that make sense though? >> It it Yeah, it does. I remember um. quitting for a short time there. I I.

remember everything tasting better. >> Oh [ __ ]. >> Yeah. [laughter] Like everything just ta. tasted better. >> Yeah. >> You know, >> of course pounding a cigarette. immediately following every single meal. or drink. >> It's got to numb the inside of your. mouth in some way or dull your senses. >> Something. >> You're caking it with smoke. Of course, it's going to. >> clog up the old taste receptors. >> Yeah, dude. >> Yeah. [laughter]. But a lot of creative people swear by. cigarettes, man.

>> I think there's there's some benefit to. it. >> Yeah. Hopefully. >> No, I think there is. I think there's. some cognitive benefit. There's just way. too many like super creative people and. a lot of intelligent people, a lot of. professors use tobacco. >> David Gilmore says he never smoked. cigarettes. David Gilmore, but didn't Roger Waters. >> This is this goes on to say that some of. the band did smoke cigarettes, but it's. more about their marijuana and has hashi. smoking. tobacco. >> So Tony Henchcliffe spreading.

misinformation and here I am repeating. it. >> Uh he might have he could have been told. though. >> Yeah, I'm sure he was told like. >> Well, Roger, we all did hang out with. Roger that one night. >> That was pretty dope. We got to see. Roger Waters live and we he came on the. podcast. We hung out and then we went to. see his concert. It was insane. Oh, I. bet it was [ __ ] Rob. >> He another legend was still like full. power on stage. It's incredible. >> That's the best. >> The show was amazing. And it's like he. has these enormous screens behind him.

So the show is like it's the music, but. it's also these incredible visuals that. you're watching while the music is. playing. >> Yeah. >> You know, and his is so politically. loaded. So it's, you know, you see all. this crazy [ __ ] like while he's singing. these songs like when they're playing. the wall. It's like [ __ ]. >> Yeah. I I remember seeing one of those. tours. I maybe it was I don't know where. but the wall is slowly building over the. whole set. [clears throat]. >> It's [ __ ] crazy. >> And when we went to see him, Ari was. high as [ __ ] on acid and he's crying in. the middle of the show. He's crying like. a man. He's weeping. [laughter].

>> It was [ __ ] phenomenal. >> Oh my god, dude. I don't know if I could. handle that. >> Yeah, I don't know either. >> Jesus. Like, get the [ __ ] out of here. with the acid. We're just going to go. see the concert. I'm not doing that. Yeah, dude. [ __ ] Around all those. people, >> I'd probably I don't know if that'd be a. good one. >> Probably not a good one, but Ari's a. experienced passenger. >> You know what I mean? [laughter]. >> He can ride some waves. >> Good boy.

>> He could ride some waves without. throwing up. [laughter]. >> Do you ever look back and just say, "God, it's a a wonder I'm still alive.". >> Dude, I told you earlier, I pinch myself. on a daily basis. I really do. that like I shouldn't technically be. here, >> right? >> And maybe you shouldn't. I don't know. Who knows? We all got our our thing. But. man, I'm really lucky to be here. And I. think it's cuz I want to be here. Like.

>> um you know what I mean? Like like I. want to be here. Like I want to [ __ ]. see. I'm kind of pissed because. um I feel like we're not even close to. where we should be. I mean, the year. 2000, I mean, where's my [ __ ]. spaceship? You know, the little. >> right, >> you know, like, where is that? There was. supposed to be full Jetsons, bro. They're extremely late or it's never. going to happen.

>> I think there's a real problem with. people flying around. >> They lied. >> The people the problem with people. flying around is you got to catch them. [laughter]. >> You know what I mean? Whereas if they're. on the street, just close off the street. and then you catch them, >> right? >> Yeah. >> If people are flying around like the. bank and they. >> and they just go off like No, no, no, no. You can't have that for everybody. You got to have people corral in nice. like very clean lines. We can block.

these lines off very obvious paths. >> Use lights to start. >> Fly over them in helicopters. Put a. spotlight down on them. So you follow. them around. That's what people like. They don't like this idea of the jets. and like that's not. >> [ __ ] I want that, dude. I want my own. little. >> Well, they do have flying cars now. >> I saw some of those. There's a couple. There's like a one company called Jet. One. >> It's like this little Looks like a. little It's like a oneman drone for. helicopters. I'm like.

>> Me and my manager were always like, "Should we go [ __ ] get a couple of. these?". >> You don't want to die that way. >> Yeah. Let those things get worked out. for a few years. >> Yeah. It's probably It needs a little. bit more time for it to be soup. But. >> Yeah, man. Because I mean, think about. like how glitchy early cell phones were. You know what I mean? >> Right. >> Let that [ __ ] get ironed out. >> Yeah. >> Let the eggheheads work on that for a. little bit. Polish it up nice. [laughter]. >> Fix all the bugs. >> Yeah. >> It's like I don't know what happens when.

those things crash. Like, do you get a. warning when they're about to die? Like, do you. >> do they run out of batteries? Does it. run out of gas? Is it allowed to run out. of gas? Can you just be an [ __ ] and. just fly until you run out of gas and. and die? >> Yeah. >> Or solar charging. >> I think I can make it home. Like, how. many guys have done that in their cars? I think I can make it home. >> When I was in high school, my friend. picked me up in his buddy's 1970 Chevel. [ __ ] amazing. Chevel. So dope. And I. remember he ran out of gas and we. coasted perfectly right to the gas.

station. >> No way. Yeah, it was like we shut the. car and we got out like that was amazing. just cuz you know we're 16. It ran out. of gas at the pump. I was like this is. perfect. >> No pushing, no nothing. Just. >> But if you're in one of them little. drones and that [ __ ] goes goes on E. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's [ __ ]. parts. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Not good. Not good. Did you see.

that uh documentary that they did about. that kid that stole a plane? >> He stole a plane. He was like working at. an airport and he stole a plane and. hijacked it and then flew it and crashed. it and died. >> Yes. >> But he's like having conversations with. them. >> Yeah. He's talking to him going like I. don't know what I'm doing, man. But you. know this one's for the I don't know. >> He's just and they were just like I. could run it, dude. Well, they were. trying to get him to land, but they were. trying to get him to land it, but the. reality was like he's no way he was. going to figure out how to land that.

thing. He's dead. He's a dead man. The. moment he got off the ground, he's a. dead man. >> Yeah. >> And he just stole the plane. And there's. a whole documentary about it. It's. apparently very interesting. >> Oh, wow. I don't I have not seen the. documentary, but I've seen clips of them. trying to talk him talk him down, and he. just seemed like he wasn't that wasn't. an option. He just seemed like this. >> He was ready to wrap it up. >> He was taking this this was this that. that that one flight. >> Yeah. Ready to wrap it up. Yeah.

>> Hope your insurance covers this. [laughter and gasps]. >> [ __ ]. >> But yeah, I think flying cars will. probably be a thing one day. For 70. minutes, the world watched in disbelief. as a stolen Horizon airplane soared over. Puget Sound for crashing on a remote. island. Now, a new Hulu documentary. reveals the man behind the controls and. the quiet struggle that led him there. >> Oh, I got to watch this. What's it. called? What's. >> Sky King? >> It's what? >> Sky King. It's called. >> Sky King. >> Poor dude. >> Oh, damn. Well, at least they they gave.

him a rad title. >> Yeah. Well, the unfortunate thing is. that might encourage other people to do. it as well. >> Oh, yeah. >> People are very stupid, >> dude. People are stupid. I I [laughter]. just released a song called Stupid World. a couple weeks ago and that's exactly. what that's about. It's literally we. have gotten to a place where everything. to me like we are at just epic stupid. proportions where you're just like not a.

day goes by where I'm like that's. [ __ ] ridiculous. That's stupid. >> Like how stu like how stupid can we get? And anyway, I wrote this track. It's. called stupid world. >> You live in LA, which is one of the. stupidest [ __ ] places on earth, >> dude. I know. It's [ __ ] insane. I'm. like, and I'm doing the same thing, too. Like, why do I live here? I mean, I love. I love it there, but in the same way, there's always in the back of my head is. why. >> look, it's the mo one of the most.

beautiful places on earth. The weather's. perfect. >> Yes. >> Most of the people are very friendly. Most of the people are cool. You know, it's like it's only a percentage of the. people that are that suck. >> It's a large percentage, but it's only a. percentage. The most the majority of the. people are cool. The problem is it's. like slowly becoming a new Detroit. >> It's like slowly the the film business. is like dried up. >> Yeah. >> Like completely dried up. Television. completely dried up. Late night TV, it's.

it's dried up, man. And then that was. fueling a giant part of like what made. LA special. >> I know. >> And it's just dried up, man. Nobody has. to be there anymore. And they make it. intolerable. They make you seem like you. have to be there. So they just punish. you with taxes and they punish you with. regulations. They punish you with they. make it everything very difficult to. conduct business. Very difficult to be. safe. Very difficult to just feel. [ __ ] normal.

>> Yeah. And they get surprised when people. leave. Like, what do you want? >> Yeah. >> What do you think you're doing to that. place? >> Like, you guys can see the statistics. Stop [ __ ] gaslighting the world, >> right? >> You guys [ __ ] this place sideways. And. you want to keep doing it. >> And the weirdest thing is, you know, like, >> you know, you hear and you see, oh man, [ __ ] a bunch of people are leaving LA. And part of me is like, [ __ ] yes, get. the [ __ ] out of here. There's too many. people here, so go. But then I realize.

nothing's really changed and I don't. really notice that people have left. The. traffic's still the same. A bunch of. shit's exactly the same. And you tell me. this many people left. I don't see it. Well, >> and I wonder if that's not not maybe a I. don't know a hyped statistic on. >> Yeah. It's not a scientific analysis. No, like the numbers are real. People. have left LA, but it doesn't matter. You. could lose five million people and LA is. still too big.

>> The traffic's bananas, >> dude. It's [ __ ] It's [ __ ] It's. bananas. If you want to go to Orange. County at 4:00 or shoot yourself, like, it's a real that's a real decision. >> Drive to Orange County at 4:00 in the. afternoon. You're like, "What the [ __ ]. am I doing with my life? This is crazy.". >> Yeah. And don't even think about hitting. the 405. >> No. >> At all. Like, >> no. >> No. You're going to have to go some. sideways. Yeah, >> you're going to have to go some You're. going to have to use ways. >> Yeah. [laughter].

>> And even then you're [ __ ] Even then. it's an hour and a half. If you live in. like Irvine and you commute to LA, good. God bless you, >> dude. >> God bless you. Yeah. >> How do you do it? >> I don't know. >> People do it every day. They just want. to live in a place like Irvine. Real. safe, real nice. >> But I got to work in LA. [ __ ] it. I'll. just drive in every day. >> [ __ ] just all [ __ ] mad and just. >> I would get up at 5 in the morning and. just go to the gym. That's what I would. do. I get up 5 in the morning, drive to. LA. I get a membership in LA at the gym. That way I'm driving with no traffic. At.

least one way. At least getting there. I. have no traffic. >> Yeah. >> And then you deal with the home commute. But doing it to both to and from. >> [ __ ] you. [ __ ] you. I'm not doing that. >> It's too gnarly. >> I'd rather get up at 5 in the morning. I. I I I would I can't imagine even doing. it once a day, but there's a lot of. people that do three hours a day minimum. in their car and they they really live. 20 minutes away. If they didn't have. traffic, they would be there in 25. minutes. Man, that's that's pretty crazy.

when you realize all we have here on. this planet is time. >> and you you realize that kind of time. you're. >> wasting. >> wasting and you're never going to get. back and you're like if I do this. consecutive consecutively every single. day I wonder what add that time up over. you know whatever. however many years and I I'll bet you. people would freak the [ __ ] Yeah. You.

lost years of your life. >> I just lost years of my life in the. [ __ ] car. >> Yeah. But the good thing is one thing. that you can do in the car is listen to. books on tape. >> Yeah. >> And books on tape are amazing. And you. know podcast too for some people. Yeah. But for me it's uh a lot of it is books. on tape cuz like you'll get lost in a. book and it doesn't even really bother. you that much. And the one of the crazy. if you have a Tesla, my Tesla does auto. driving. So if I want to, if I'm leaving.

here and there's some crazy traffic for. some reason, I just go I just turn it on. and it goes. >> I don't have to hit the blinkers. I. don't have to change lanes. I don't have. to stop at red lights. It does. everything. >> destressed. >> And all I have to do is just keep my. fingers on the wheel. >> just like this. >> Oh. to make it look like you're. >> chill. No, you're supposed to like stay. contact with the wheel and just. [clears throat] keep your eyes on the. road, but you don't have to think at. all. >> No, you can't do that. You're not. supposed to do that. It probably would. still work. I don't even know what.

happens if you just go. >> I think it shuts down after a second. starts to. >> recognizes that you're doing that and. shuts down. But the reality is like that. as a stress decoupler, there's nothing. like it. >> Oh man, the best. >> You just put your fingers on the wheel. and just chill. And now all you're doing. is sitting for an hour and a half. instead of like constantly hitting the. brakes, constantly hitting the gas, constantly hitting the brakes. Now. you're just chilling and you get just. like listen to your book on bonsai. >> Yeah. No, that is that is nice, man. I. don't know about you, but like if I.

start like, you know, you start reading. a book, >> just you know your eyes focusing and. reading, you they get tired. So. [clears throat] you get more in. listening to it an auditory version of. it rather than for me at least sort. [clears throat] of sort of eyes. stressing on reading and doing all that. I just I get tired and then [ __ ] lose. interest. >> Yeah, that's that's there's definitely. something to that. Well, reading always. makes me want to go to sleep.

>> Yes. >> One thing, especially reading at night, it helps me fall asleep. Yeah. But. there's uh there's also something about. reading in your head because you create. the voices and you create everything. like you use your imagination when. you're just reading. That doesn't exist. with books on tape. >> Yes. >> But with with audiobooks I don't have. the time. So for me it's a time thing. Like if I have a guest coming on and the. guest is like an astrophysicist that has. some very bizarre theory about something. like I need to absorb the information. and I have a limited amount of time. So.

I listen to audio books in the gym. I. listen to audiobooks in the sauna and I. listen to it in the car on the way to. work. And so that all together is a. couple hours in a day. >> So I can do that and get a lot of. information in where I wouldn't I would. I don't have the couple hours to sit. down and just read. >> I just I don't I wish I did. I don't. Yeah. >> So I can still get all that data and. that information, but I have to be very. v uh diligent about actually listening. >> Yeah. That's the thing cuz especially at.

the gym, >> you can get a little just distracted and. you're like, "What the [ __ ] did he just. say?" And you have to back it up. And. >> when that happens, I generally I just. shut it off. I'm like, "This workout's. too intense. I can't really pay. attention.". >> Yeah. You can Yeah. What do they say? Do. what you're doing when you're doing it. >> Yeah. >> People People think they're. multitasking, right? >> That doesn't [ __ ] exist. You really. >> Yeah. Whatever. You're sort of. multitasking, but you're robbing from. Peter to pay Paul.

>> Thank you very much. >> Yeah, you're taking away some of your. attention on what you're doing to pay. attention to this other thing, and it's. definitely making you less good at. either one of those things. >> And if one of them is very simple and. it's like it doesn't matter, okay, you. could be distracted, right? >> But if it's two important things, you're. robbing each important thing. You're. robbing attention from the these things. >> Yeah. >> There it is. >> Yeah. >> There it is. Well, I've always find that. like my best workouts are in silence. It's like you don't it's so hard to work. out. Like you really need to only be.

thinking about what you're doing. >> And if you add in a bunch of stuff. >> except music. >> Music is always fuel for workouts. That's different. Books. It's like music. you can listen and then stop listening. You could do be in the middle of the. set. It doesn't distract you with. lyrics. It just keeps just gives you. some energy in the air. Music is the. ultimate companion for working out. >> Yeah. No doubt. No doubt. >> So much so that David Gogggins doesn't. use it cuz he says it's cheating. >> What? He goes, "It's cheating." You. know, cuz he's just a complete total.

psycho. >> Is that that like uh is that that like. uh. >> ultramarathon guy? Yeah. >> Oh, okay. I thought it was the Live. Forever guy. The. >> Oh, no, no, no. That's Brian Johnson. That's the guy who like has his son's. blood injected into him. >> Yeah, that dude. Sorry, I'm confusing. this. >> David Gogggins is a totally different. guy. He's the Navy Seal who uh run he I. think how many ultramarathons did he run. in a month? >> Something insane. >> He runs 100 mile races and he's he's. like a insane fitness freak.

>> Oh wow. >> And when he works out he has he's these. workouts where like famously he'll take. like professional fighters and they work. out with them and they can't keep up and. they're just throwing up and they just. can't can't believe how much this guy. works. And he's doing it easy where he's. just talking to them the entire time and. they can't keep up. He finished eight. 100mile marathons in eight consecutive. weekends. >> So he ran 800 miles in eight weekends. >> He's a nut. >> And he does like he'll he'll be like at.

home and just decide uh I'm going to do. a 60 mile ruck right now and just like. throws on a backpack, gets outside and. starts rucking. And he'll just do 60. miles. And so he'll go out there for. hours and hours just decides this is. what I'm going to do and I'll not stop. until I'm done. And he does it all the. time. >> Whoa. >> He's in insane shape. And he's 50. >> Wow. >> He's insane. He also has no knees. His. knees are completely destroyed. >> Oh. From pounding arm. >> They're bone on bone. He's had a ton of. operations. Doesn't care. Keeps going on.

on bone on bone. Like what? It's just a. maniac. >> He's a complete and total maniac. But he. doesn't use music because he says it's. cheating. >> Wow. [laughter] That's amazing. >> But that just shows you I like to cheat. I like to use that music. I like to. cheat. I need to cheat to get that. energy extra. I mean, I can do it myself. maybe. But why would I when I go. I mean, give me that [ __ ] Give me. that [laughter] [ __ ] music.

>> Yeah, man. >> If it's cheating, I'm going to cheat at. that. >> Yeah, that's that's that's not cheating. >> I don't think of it as cheating. >> That's called inspiration. >> Yes. It's an awesome supplement. That's. what I call it. There you go. >> But for him, it's all about mental. strength. And so he considers it. cheating to use that mental strength. like to your mental strength should be. right from your brain. He goes, "You. can't always count on that music. That. music's not always going to be there.". Like, okay. >> Uh, >> I guess so. >> He kind of has a I I get it. Like do. what you're doing when. >> for what he does, he kind of has a.

point. >> Yeah, I could see that. He's He's. focusing. >> Yeah. >> No, no distractions. >> Yeah. He says he's gaining knowledge. He. says, "I'm I'm gaining knowledge. I'm. acquiring knowledge.". >> I believe him. I believe him because. he's he's thinking he's going into the. dark realms of his mind, you know, intense suffering, running 100 mile. races eight weekends in a row. >> He's doing some serious other work while. he's running. >> That's the real like deep introspective.

work. You want to find out who you. really are? Run eight 100m races in 8. weeks. >> Imagine those conversations you're. having with yourself. What the [ __ ] am I. doing? No, dude. You got this. You got. this. No, dude. You're an idiot. >> No, bro. [ __ ] yes. >> I think he probably used to have those. conversations. Now it's just Now it's. just battling demons. It's all just. demons just crushing down negative. thoughts, >> crushing down weakness, you know? >> I know. >> [ __ ]. >> There's a lot of different kinds of.

people in this world, Tommy. >> Yeah, there are, dude. [laughter] It's. pretty crazy out there. >> And I bet you've met every variety of. them. >> Just about. Oh my god, that's funny. I. >> Wow. I know. There's some crazy people. in this world. >> Yeah, there is. >> But we need all of them, you know. We. need our Tommy Lees, we need our David. Lee Ross, we need our, you know, we need. our David Gogggins. We need all those. people. That's what makes the world. beautiful is that there are so many. different people. You can meet someone. like, "Fuck, I never met a guy like.

him." That's nuts. >> Yeah, that is one. It is wonderful. Isn't it wonderful? I mean, you must. have met every [ __ ] human being. that's ever lived practically, >> dude. I feel like it just about. [laughter]. >> I mean, been you've been famous since. what year? Like, what year did Mley Crew. really break out? >> It's like 80. >> 80. That's nuts. >> Yeah. >> Boy, the world was a different place, >> bro. >> The world was a different place. No.

internet. >> No. No cell phones. No. Who was. president in 1980? >> Uh, was that even Reagan yet? Uh, >> almost. >> When did Reagan become president? >> [ __ ]. Reagan was president when I was in high. school. >> Who the [ __ ]. >> That was in the 80s. >> What year? Jimmy. >> started in ' 81. >> 81. So 1980 Reagan wasn't even president. yet. >> [ __ ] Who was president? Had to be Jimmy.

Carter, right? That sounds right. Wasn't. it Jimmy Carter before Reagan? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, it was Jimmy Carter, >> then Ronald Reagan. >> Whoa, dude. >> Wow. Ain't that nuts? >> 1980. >> What was that scene like, bro? That was still to this day. Um um. Mley did uh we did this movie called The. Dirt and it's based on our autobiography.

um from you know certain years from this. year to this year and it it kind of like. it shows how it [ __ ] was. And one of. one of the coolest things ever is when. uh you know I'll see you know emails. from fans or questions from fans and. they're like dude. was it and these are from like you know. 18year-old kids. They're like was it. really like that when you guys were.

rocking [ __ ] like that? I was like 100%. They're like, "Fuck, we we". And they're bummed. They're like, "We. will never ever get to experience that. Fuck." [laughter]. It's like, it was just full on till the. wheels fall off. No, you could get away with [ __ ] murder. Literally, there was no phones and no. This was at a time where.

anything. anything goes. pretty much. >> Pretty much. >> How old were you in 1980? >> In 1980, I was uh 18. >> Jesus Christ. >> Seven. 18. 17. >> So, you're blowing up at 18 years old. How the [ __ ] did you manage? I know, dude. >> Look at that picture. That's crazy. >> That looks like a picture from like.

1940, >> right? >> Looks like it's another world. >> I know. >> Even the font from Mly Crew. >> Yeah. >> Looks ancient. >> Totally. >> Wow. God, dude. >> What is that? Is that even seem real. when you look at that picture? >> Um, look at our [ __ ] little cheesy cloth. backdrop. >> That's dope. >> See the wrinkles in the fabric? That's. the whiskey. >> The whiskey. Too Fast for Love. [ __ ]. great song. >> And that [ __ ] drum riser that that.

right there with the lights in it and. stuff. >> Yeah. [gasps]. >> My dad [ __ ] and my dad, myself, and. my drum tech, we built that riser, dude. >> Like it had [ __ ] switches. My dad was. a mechanic. Uh and so he my dad built. he, you know, he was like, "You need a. drum riser. All right, let's go." I. mean, dude, he would My dad would built. us pyro [ __ ] he like drilled out.

these uh or cut cut these big uh uh. blocks of wood, ran electrical uh prongs. up through the wood and then you take a. little small wire and you connect the. tube, put a pipe over it, fill it with. gunpowder, and we'd be out in my. backyard, dude, and the neighbors would. be all a sudden just like fire. There's these [ __ ] mushroom clouds in. my backyard and the neighbors are like, "What the [ __ ] is going on?" And my dad.

like he just he loved it. He's like. making bombs, lighting rigs, drum. risers. He and he would drive me he. would drive me to the gigs and uh in his. van with all my [ __ ] like I had the best. dad [ __ ] ever, by the way. That's. awesome. >> Yeah. And here here's a mechanic. Okay, >> look at this [ __ ] setup, bro. This is. nuts. >> Oh, dude. Right. >> The hamster wheel. >> That is crazy. >> Yeah, that's nuts, >> bro. You were doing drums like halfway.

upside down. >> Dude, the thing is gyroscoped. It went. around, you know, right to left, uh, back to front. >> What is it like trying to play the drums. from that position, though? That's got. to be very weird, >> dude. It is insane. Like, I had to like. I had to change so many dynamics. Like. think about it. Instead of gravity uh. instead of gravity pulling your hand. down. Right. >> Right. >> Now you've got to push. >> Oh yeah.

>> You're upside down. So it becomes three. times harder physically. And um and also. you had to make adjustments. So um I. don't know how much you know about. drums, but on your pedals, they're foot. pedals for your bass drums, right? Well, and those are chain driven pedal. footboards. So, when you go upside down, they fall. So, I had to put springs I. had to put springs underneath the pedals. to keep them taut so they would stay up.

You know what I'm saying? >> Oh, yeah. >> So, I had And with symbols, they they. they're meant to hang a certain way. They're not meant to hang upside down. So, I had to make all these crazy. adjustments technically to pull it off. But um we figured it out with the high. hat too cuz a high hat would you know. the two symbols that. >> they would just if you're upside down. they just they just go open. They open. >> Right. >> So I had to do another spring as well to. keep that closed so I could manually.

drive it. >> It's all this crazy [ __ ]. >> Why did you decide to do that? Like what. was it? Just something rad. You know. what? That all started. Um, and it's. kind of been my thing throughout. history. And every year I do something. [ __ ] different and crazier. Of. course, everybody's like, "What are you. going to do next year? What are you. going to do next year?" Um, that's sort. of like that's where it all started. And. and it really started when I went to go. see it was [ __ ] Pat Travers.

Um, do you remember Pat Travers band? No. Boom. Boom. Out go the Lights. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. Anyway, they were cool. And I went. to go see them and Tommy Aldrich was the. drummer. And this is before Mley. I'm. just like, "Whoa, dude. I'm like a. [ __ ] kid standing on the chair." [ __ ]. yeah. Right. And it's drum solo time. And And he's a badass. And he's just. he's [ __ ] ripping, dude. All you see. is sticks flying and hair [ __ ] going.

He's shredding. And I'm looking around. and I and I'm watching people go get a. beer, people going to pee, going to get. a t-shirt, going out to the lobby to. [ __ ] smoke a joint. What? I don't. know. Whatever. Everybody's kind of. leaving. And I'm like, where the [ __ ] is. everybody going? That guy is murdering. the [ __ ] drums right now. And y'all. are like, he failed to capture their. attention. And from that moment on, I. went, I need to figure out a how to give.

the audience a better view of what. you're actually doing there because. people can't see. It's not like a guitar. where you can you can see. >> Oh, there's the that's the roller. coaster. That's the [laughter] that. that's the that's the crucify, dude. >> That's so dope. >> That's the the latest one. That thing. went from the front all the way to the. back of the [ __ ] arena or stadium. That's crazy, dude. >> And look at And then it it starts it.

starts twirling as it's going down. >> Oh my god, you're upside down. That's so. sick. >> Look at that, dude. >> That is so sick. >> The audience must goanas. >> Yeah. At one point the roller coaster. comes down and it's literally almost. just they could almost touch you. >> Wow. >> Look at that [ __ ] dude. That I think. that is. >> How do you not get a crazy head rush. when you're upside down banging on the. drums, >> dude? It is so gnarly. I'm I'm wrecked. It's 9 minutes total. >> Must do a lot for your core, too, right?

Hold yourself, >> dude. I'm on the oxygen bottle. [laughter] When When I finish, I go all. the way out and then I do it all. backwards. >> Whoa. >> And go back and do it backwards. And by. the time I get done, I'm sitting there. with the oxygen going. while Mick does a guitar solo. I just. need a couple seconds cuz I am [ __ ]. done. I can imagine, man. It's. incredible cardio. I mean, just it's. like shadow boxing for minutes at a. time. Hardcore, super fast.

>> Yeah. >> I've always admired the physical. fitness. Yeah. >> Just constantly. And you know what. that's like, man, after a [ __ ] minute. of that, you're like. >> I know. The physical fitness involved in. playing drums must be really crazy. Like, if you didn't play drums for like. a few years and then picked it up again. and started again, it' probably take. forever to get that endurance back. >> Forever, dude. Because it's so like when. you're going off, dude, you're so fast. >> It's so fast, dude. It's like everything's [ __ ] moving.

You're pounding your feet and everything. like [ __ ] man. >> I know. >> It's one of the most athletic things in. all of music. >> It It really is, man. And And I had this. I was like, "Okay, how come I've weighed. the same weight since [ __ ] high. school till today?". >> Right? And I'm like, that's [ __ ]. weird. And I eat kind of whatever the. [ __ ] I want to eat. Like I don't there's. no I don't like diet or or have some. strict, you know, regimented food.

program. I was like, I'm going to. [ __ ] I I got to see I I got one of. those, this was years ago, was like a. pedometer you clip onto your shoe like. joggers would use it to see how there's. like the old version. You just clipped. it on your on your shoe and it told you. how many miles you did. like a little. tachometer. Not a tachometer, but. pedometer. >> Pedometer. Yeah. >> So, I'm like I get one, I clip it on. I'm like, I'm wondering what how many.

[ __ ] miles I'm doing after a two hour. show. I don't know. [ __ ] Who knows? I. know. I'm sweaty as [ __ ] And I'm I'm. after the show, alls I hear is ringing. in my ear and I'm [ __ ] I got I'm. wrecked. >> I'm done. And um I [ __ ] took it off. after the show and I looked down and it. said 13.3 miles and I was like. [laughter]. so that's why I don't [ __ ] that's why.

I'm just skinny [ __ ] and like I just I. sweat it out. >> Travis Barker. Same deal. >> Same deal. >> Yeah. I mean he works out a lot as well, but it's like same deal. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> It's like incredible amounts of cardio. The amount of I wonder how many calories. you burn in a two-hour show. It's got to. be off the charts. >> Yeah. That I haven't measured just. >> because it's not just jogging. Like it's. not like you're running 13 miles. Obviously, you're sitting still, but the. pounding of the arms. Yes. And the. breathing, you know, you got to [ __ ]. Yeah. It's like, God.

>> Yeah. Everything's going, man. You're. firing on a whole cylinder. >> For sure. The most athletic thing in all. of music. For sure. Nothing even close, right? >> Yeah. No. >> I mean, playing guitar is you're moving. your hands and everything, but it's not. not not nearly. Drums are like a It's. more like a sport. >> It really is. >> It really is. >> It really is. Like you don't see a. really out of shape drummer. >> No. >> You know, it's almost like you can't be. to keep up. >> No, I know. And yet everybody's you're. kind of like.

>> you're the [ __ ] heartbeat, man. You. you're you're really everybody's kind. of, you know, people say you're you're. only as good your band's only as good as. your drummer. And that's really [ __ ]. it's really true. And I'm not just. saying that cuz I'm a [ __ ] drummer, but drummer has a lot of responsibility, man. Everybody, all the people that you. see out there that are [ __ ] moving, I'm I'm responsible for for a lot of. that. I'm not saying it for all of it, but you sort of set the pace, >> you know? Um,

>> and and you you're making people. physically move, right? Like, and that. that's that takes that takes a lot of. work, you know? the amount of energy. you're putting out, you're getting back. and you're seeing it and you're like, "Fuck, I'm driving here.". >> Yeah. >> And that's a that's a cool place to be, but it is a responsibility and it is. physical and it's draining, but but it's. [ __ ] rad. I live for it, you know? >> Did you take lessons to learn how to. drum or did you learn on your own?

>> Um, I I didn't really take lessons like. I I learned on my own until I mean like. kind of early in in high school. I. played in the marching band, but that. wasn't really like drums. That was like. more like like a drum core stuff like. rudiments and like you know drum core. [ __ ] and not really the whole kit till. later. Um, I I got the school, my high. school to let me [clears throat] or. sorry, my grade school to let me borrow.

the drum the jazz drum set at the school. and I'd bring it home and then I started. just like listening to my favorite [ __ ]. and I would just play along and so I. never really took any physical lessons. I just was just in me, man. I was just. like I'm really good at hearing. something and going, "Oh, okay. I got. it. Okay." Did you have to learn how to. hold the sticks? Do you hold the sticks. in a conventional way that like like. you're taught or did you just figure it. out on your own? >> Um just I just figured it out on my own.

Just. >> probably just moved on from the the the. forks and the spoons. >> It's interesting how many great. musicians learned on their own. >> Yeah. Like Hrix Hris taught himself to. play guitar. That's why he played it. upside down left-handed. >> He just made it work. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Just figured out how to do it on his. own. It's really interesting how like. with, you know, when you just get an. instrument and listen to other people. use it and learn how they're doing it. and just kind of [ __ ] around with it and.

figure it out. >> and then doing it your own way. Yeah. >> Of course. And then Whoa. Then you got. your own thing, which is that's. wonderful, man. Well, if you think about. early rock and roll versus the way drums. are played like like you play or like. Travis plays like some elite drummer. plays, it's like drums are so it's like. it's so much more powerful now than ever. before. >> I know, man. God. And then that thing. happens. I don't know if you've ever. been around like a like a drum circle. The more drummers there are, like all of.

a sudden it just it becomes this this. thing. It grows into this tribal like. dude everybody's just being moved by. rhythm and [ __ ] that's so powerful. It's. like, you know, I don't know that that. kind of it's it's a more aggressive. power than the kind of power where you. can make somebody [ __ ] cry playing. the piano, playing the right chords, you. know, >> I watch them cry, >> right? But yeah, that's fun, man. There's nothing better than.

>> than rhythm, man. That's I [snorts] live. for that [ __ ]. >> No, I can tell. I always get in trouble. all the time, man, in school cuz I'd. always be like, always, [laughter] always, "Dude, can. you stop tapping on the tables?" Yep. Sorry. We sit back in the back of class. and be like. making like water drip noises. [laughter] Everyone's looking around for. a leak. Class clown. Well, there's. something about drums that it's like a.

part of like tribal culture like from. the beginning of human time. Like people. pounding on drums. I mean, yeah. They pounded it on ships. to keep pace with the rowing. You know, there was a guy that was the drummer on. a ship. Yeah. >> You know, to keep make sure everybody. keeps pace. It's kind of wild. >> Isn't that cool? >> You know that they they knew even back. then there's something about the sound. of drums that's important. the the the the the.

heartbeat. >> Do you ever [ __ ] around with bongos? >> Oh, sure. Yeah, that those a lot of hand. uh instruments, bongos, congas. Um I. just of the last couple years been. playing um uh a hand drum. People call. them a hang drum. Hand drum. You know. them? Have you seen them? They're like. they look like a [ __ ] flying saucer. >> Oh yeah, I have. >> And they're really melodic. really. beautiful zeny sounding uh instrument. That's cool because it's percussive and.

melodic. So, you can come up with these. really bitching depending on how the. instruments tuned and stuff. But that's. been a lot of fun. That that's cool. Like sort of. uh a different kind of rhythm, but it's. it's a it's a soothing one. It's a total. opposite of the aggressive [ __ ] you. know. >> Right. Right. Right. Well, I mean, it. must be fun since you've been playing. drums for so long, just experiment with. different things. >> I love that, man. There I'm always.

searching for uh a new sound, you know, um a new percussive sound that moves you. and makes you [ __ ] I don't know, that. gets inside you, right? >> Like. >> I'm always on the hunt, dude. I'm such a. tweaker. Like I'll find something that. sonically sounds like a drum. It could. be a drum. It's not. And I'll make it. I'll turn it into something that sounds. like a drum. And all of a sudden, you. know, that you know, I don't know,

hitting on these elorns or something. sounds like a wood block, but pitched. way way down. It sound more sounds like. a note going. I don't know. Like I I'm just I love I. love percussion and rhythm. So, I'm. always [ __ ] around trying to find. find uh something that moves us, you. know? >> That's my job. >> Yeah. Cool. I'm here to move you, man. [laughter]. >> It's a cool [ __ ] job.

>> Yeah. I like it, man. >> It doesn't suck. >> No, >> it doesn't suck. >> No. When when you're working on a new. song, when you're creating a new song, what is your process? Do you do you have. a beat in your head? Do you do you sit. down and just start [ __ ] around until. something comes to you? Like how do you. do it? >> You know what? It's always different. I. wish I could say I had like a a thing. >> I really don't, man. Like, you know, it'll be uh something that happened to. me or something I'm experiencing will.

spark a word or a a chant all of a. sudden, you know, then that'll I'll pick. up a [ __ ] guitar and be like, "Oh, this is killer." Or sometimes they come. with a beat. I'm like, "Oh, this is a. [ __ ] killer beat. This would be. great." And then I'll start with a beat. and then start then add guitars. It's. never really there's not really like a. format. I just kind of go with what. whatever sort of inspiring me at the. time that feel like I need to write. about. Um,

yeah, there's not really like a a way. I. know a lot of people have sort of. methodical way like, well, I start with. the lyric first. Always the lyric first. Nothing else is important. Okay, dude. Why don't we get Why don't we get people. to move first before you try to seduce. them with these [ __ ] crazy words? [laughter]. Actually, no one's going to. >> smoking like a true drummer. >> No one's going to even get to these. [ __ ] words if you can't get them to. stay listening, >> right?

>> Or to move. They're like, "Oh, this is. nice.". >> Right. >> Isn't that the like isn't that the key. moment when you're like, "Oo, this is. cool." before you've even heard of a a. lyric or a melody. That's that's kind of my object like my. priority is like is it moving me? >> Yeah. >> Okay, let's go. >> It seems like having a bunch of. different methods to get there is. probably better anyway. >> Yes. >> Cuz there's all sorts of different paths. to get to the prize, >> right? >> And having a bunch of different methods.

of creativity is probably better. Frees. you up more. >> different results, right? instead of. being that, okay, well, it's going to. start to sound the same if you keep. using the same method. >> Yeah. >> When you write, do you write down on. paper or do you just Yeah. >> Yeah. paper? >> Yeah. >> Do you ever write on computer or do you. ever like just write in your own head? You ever just like. >> I use a computer a lot too. Um, a lot. for excuse me for demos. That's a really. quick way to, you know, where I can I.

can present a song to the band where, you know, [ __ ] I play guitar, sing, drums, bass. So, I'll I'll bring in. demos that. >> totally created by you. >> So, yeah, it just sounds they sound. finished, you know. It's like, okay, and. then, you know, then we'll go from. there. So yeah, I I always try to like, you know, not not finish everything. entirely because, you know, when you're. in a band with three other guys who also.

create, kind of leave it open for that. But um but yeah, I use the computer a. lot to com sort of compose the ideas and. get them recorded, sort of produce them. It's really. beautiful that you know, Mly Crew hit in. 1980. Here we are 46 years later and you. still love it. >> I know. >> That's so awesome. >> Isn't that crazy? >> That's what everybody wants in this. life. Something that they're passionate.

about that remains a passion. It stays. and if anything grows as a passion, still exciting, still enticing, still. captivates you. >> Yeah. >> 1980. >> the world was a different place. I mean, think about where we were in the. universe in 1980 and how the entire. solar system is spiraling through the. galaxy, which is spiraling through. space. Like, we've moved how many.

[ __ ] million miles. >> since 1980. >> I know that's that's hard to think. about. You know, have you ever seen what. the the you know, we we always want to. think about the sun being in the center. of our solar system and the planets. spinning around it, but have you ever. seen what the whole solar system looks. like? Like moving through space? >> The whole thing's moving through space. It's not stationary. >> It's not like we're sat there and we're. just spinning around.

>> Yeah. And everybody else is just. >> [ __ ] whole thing is hurling through. space. So in 1980 we were in a totally. different spot in the universe. >> That's crazy. That is crazy. >> The world was different. People were. different. Information was different. Our version of reality was different. >> Everything. >> Everything was different. [ __ ] And you. wrote it out from answering machines to.

pagers. to [clears throat] [ __ ] sidekicks to. iPhones to the internet to everything. like. >> remember the Motorola brick phone. >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah, dude. >> You were a pimp if you had one of those. >> [ __ ] yeah. [laughter]. >> Look at it. This is what it looks like. This is See, mo most people think our. solar system looks like, but this is. what it actually is doing. >> Oh, it's true. how our our solar system. actually moves. So, look, the sun's. hurling through space and all the.

planets are spinning around it as it. hurls through space. >> Isn't that crazy? >> Where's Earth there? >> Earth is the third planet from the sun. >> Oh, >> the blue one right there. >> So, just think about that. >> How many rips? >> Yeah. How many rips have we done since. 1980, >> bro? How we're in a different place in. the [ __ ] universe. >> than we were in 1980. >> Whoa. >> How far? How? Let's ask this. How far. has the solar system moved through the.

universe since 1980? Let's ask. perplexity that. >> Oh my god. >> That this is one of the best uses of AI. Stupid information like that. >> Yes. Yeah, it is. It is. I'm gonna guess. 100 million miles. Just a wild guess. I have no idea. I might be off by a 100. million. [laughter]. >> It's giving me light years. Not.

>> well. Let me see what it looks like. Roughly two to three. I think a. lightyear is a trillion miles. >> Whoa, dude. >> Two to three light years through space. Okay. How many miles is a lightyear? Put. that in. >> Oh, I didn't say miles. I think I. >> Right. But how many miles is a. lightyear? >> I think it's a trillion miles. >> [ __ ] We're going in.

>> Oh, a lightyear is 5.88 trillion miles, >> dude. >> Okay, so think about that. Think about. how many trillions of miles. Earth has traveled through the universe. since Mley crew bust out onto the scene. >> Dude, >> think of that. >> And a trillion is a thousand billion, right? >> Yes. A thousand billion. How many. thousand billion miles has the Earth. >> moved through? So it was like two to.

three. It was two to three light years. >> Mhm. >> Okay. And each lightyear is how many. trillion? >> 5.88. >> 5.88. How about that? So you're dealing. with roughly. 15 plus trillion miles, dude. We're old. [laughter]. >> Old as [ __ ]. >> 1980. I was in junior high school. >> I don't know about old, but [ __ ] We've. traveled. >> We have [ __ ] trad.

>> We have [ __ ] traveled. >> Damn. >> But that's that's a freaky thing to. think about. how far how and we're in a. different place in the universe. >> Well, thank you for that bit of. information. That's nice to. to I don't know. It just think about, >> dude, you know how many miles I [ __ ]. traveled, bro? >> Yeah. >> 15 plus trillion trillion. >> just since Mley crew bust out onto the. scene. >> What was it like being that famous at. 18? That had to be nuts. >> It's [ __ ] bizarre, dude.

Like I don't I don't even know how to. explain it. Just imagine having the the. [ __ ] I don't know the keys to a. [ __ ]. pretty much anything you wanted to do. Try. >> What was the first crazy thing you. bought when you first started making. cheddar? F. >> first thing I bought was uh at was my a. [ __ ] dream car. It was a [ __ ] 82. Corvette [laughter].

>> te-top. >> Nice. >> T-tops popped out. >> What color? >> It was a champagne colored. >> Ooh, nice. >> Yeah, it's kind of silvery gold kind of. a. >> [ __ ] rad, dude. Like all my I don't. know when you're a kid. >> In 82 the Corvette was one of the only. American cars worth buying cuz in 82. they were still dope looking. Like pull. up a 1982 Corvette. Yeah, they're still. Mustangs looked like hot dog [ __ ] in 82.

They look [ __ ] terrible. They look. terrible. Camaros look like [ __ ]. Everything looked like [ __ ] They were. all like plastic garbage. That's still. dope. >> Yeah. >> Like that's still dope today. >> That's the color I had, dude. >> Look at that. >> That's the one. >> Look at that. Make that bigger. Look at. that. >> That's. >> That is a [ __ ] dope car today. Yeah, >> it's one of the only American cars from. 1982 that looks dope today. Like, pull. up a 1982 Mustang.

>> 1982 Mustang is going to make you want. to vomit. >> Oh, dude. >> I know a lot of people that are like. fans of the Fox body. >> LOOK AT THAT. >> WHAT is that? >> Looks like a [ __ ]. >> bro. That looks like a gremlin. >> It looks like straight horseshit. That's. whatever the [ __ ] Russians did to us. to make us make [laughter] cars like. or really the Nixon administration by. [ __ ] blocking drugs. Look at how ugly. that is. That is [ __ ] disgusting.

>> That is so dude. >> Look how [ __ ] disgusting that is. Now. I want you to do this. Pull up a 1969. Boss 429 Mustang. >> Put up the pinnacle. The pinnacle of muscle cars. Look at. that [ __ ]. >> Yeah, right. >> Look at that. [ __ ] hell. >> Look at the difference between 1969. and that [ __ ] dog [ __ ] 1982. >> extended [ __ ] Look at that.

thing. Godamn America. [laughter]. >> That's a real car. But they they block. the drugs. They kept those car makers. from having drugs and they all make. garbage except Corvette. >> Yeah. >> Corvette still stuck with that style. because Corvettes were fiberglass. So. they weren't as limited in terms of like. the shapes, you know, they had those. cool swerv. they kept those. >> until, oddly enough, the '9s. They. started getting shitty in the '9s.

>> Yeah. >> Look at you, dog. >> Yeah. There it is, dude. >> Look at you, dog. [laughter]. >> Wow. That's crazy. >> That's nuts, dude. >> I wonder who's got that car. >> I don't know. >> Somebody has Tommy Lee's 1982 Corvette. >> Somebody. >> They have to. >> You know, that thing's still running. Yeah, probably. Hopefully. >> Yeah. >> Well, they a lot of those they take them. and make resto mods out of them now. They'll put like a modern engine and. modern brakes and everything so they. handle better and modern suspension. >> Yeah. >> I immediately [ __ ].

me and my buddy just took that car and. [ __ ] put a [ __ ] blower and an. injection [laughter] on it. It's [ __ ]. insane, dude. In the glove box. This is. before like now we have, you know, a. bunch of super rad tuned exhaust, you. know, uh, you know, straight pipe [ __ ]. loud as [ __ ] This is before that. And. we we made a couple of cutouts and in. the glove box, like if the cops were to.

come, you just open the glove box and. take these two they they're like choke. levers. >> Mhm. And you you pull them pull them out. and the flaps would disconnect them and. just go straight from the headers out. and bypass the mufflers. >> So it just be LIKE. and if the cops are coming you just push. these two choke levers in and back to. the mufflers all quiet. >> Yeah, they have switches for that now. with a lot of cars like custommade cars.

They have exhaust switches that do that, but they don't do it to that extent. where it just goes straight pipes. >> Yeah. Yeah. That must sound that must. have sounded [ __ ] amazing, >> dude. So rad. >> Yeah. I mean, there's nothing like rock. and roll and muscle cars. Like those are. two things that are like completely. connected forever. >> Yeah. Another [ __ ] rad car that I I. never got, but I always wanted to was. like the [ __ ] the Shelby Cobra. >> Oh yeah. >> The big [ __ ] pipes blowing right just. loud as [ __ ] It's like 4 inch exhaust.

Like y dude, that shit's throaty and. just. >> tiny little car. Little fiberglass car. [ __ ]. >> Go-kart with a 427 in it. >> Crazy power. No weight at all. It weighs. nothing. >> Yeah. It just does burnouts the whole. time. It's too much. [snorts]. >> I have a buddy of mine who has one of. those. It's nuts. Like, but it it freaks. me out. It's like there's no protection. here. If you get in an accident like. this, [laughter] there's like nothing to. this car, >> you know? You have no roof. You don't. even have a roll bar. It's like just got.

this little tiny windshield and you're. you're behind the wheel of an engine. Just a giant engine with four wheels. >> Yeah. You're done. >> Yeah. >> One bad move. >> Pretty dope. [laughter]. >> Yeah. Super rad. >> Yeah. Like one of those. Like look at. that [ __ ] thing, >> dude. I'm sorry, but that's the [ __ ]. sick [ __ ] Radical looking. >> And it's Oh, look at the flared wheel. >> The thing is too, they make a lot of. recreations now. Like the old ones are. worth like millions of dollars, >> dude. I know. >> Yeah. But you can get a recreation and. experience the exact same thing,

>> dude. Sure. >> There's a ton of recreations now and. they're [ __ ] great. >> and they look the same and it's like, yeah, it's not worth as much money, but. who [ __ ] cares? Just go drive it. It's awesome. >> Yeah, if you just. >> Look at that thing. Jeez, >> bro. Look, that thing carbon fiber. Oh. my goodness. Look at that [ __ ] thing. It's all carbon fiber. >> Oh, [ __ ] Let's. >> That must weigh 14 lbs. >> Let's go get a couple, dude. >> Dude, who's making that? >> Click on that link. Who's making that. [ __ ] thing? >> Realm. >> Yeah, it probably is.

>> Well, I know. Uh, yeah. Classic. Recreations. That same company that does. those dope uh 67 GT500s. >> They're making a classic recreations. 1,000 HORSEPOWER. >> OH, DUDE. >> DUDE, it weighs 2,300 lb. That's nuts. >> 1,000. But the the body, the carbon fiber body. is only 88 lb. >> [laughter]. >> Unbelievable. >> So, it's 2,000 power 2,000 lb of.

suspension, frame, and wheels, and. engine, and that's it. Look at that. That's sick. That's so sick. >> That's just [ __ ] straight trouble. right there. >> That's going to get you in trouble. Yeah. >> Or not. Or just enjoy yourself. >> Just fun. Yeah. >> But it's Oh, America. [ __ ] yeah. >> [ __ ] I love those cars. >> What else did you buy that horsepower? >> I know. Preposterous. Yeah. >> What else did you buy that's nuts? >> Um, when they first came out, um, me and.

my bass player bought like almost. [ __ ] at the same time, uh, the. Ferrari had come out with the. Tessterosa. >> Oh, the Miami Vice car. >> Totally, dude. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. [ __ ] [laughter]. I had a car broker find me a black on. black one. >> Oh, man. >> And just like [ __ ] Okay, this is. insane. The listeners will probably appreciate. this. You buy a [ __ ] car for 200 at. the time $250,000 for the Tessterosa.

G get it shipped from it came in from. from Florida to LA. I'm pulling the. plastic off the seats. This is brand. [ __ ] new. Back it down the [ __ ]. carrier and I'm in. The dude's kind of. showing me, you know, what's up. And I. [ __ ] I look in the, you know, to the. right of the steering wheel, there's. like a like a looks like a cover. So I. grab it and you open it up at that where. the stereo would be. I open it up and I.

go, "Where's the stereo?" The guy goes, "Oh, Enzo. believed that the music that you should. be listening to is the sound of the. engine." And I'm like, "Well, that's. [ __ ] rad and everything, Enzo. But. but bro, I just spent a quarter of a. million dollars and I want to [ __ ]. crank [ __ ] loud as [ __ ] [laughter] here. and breaking [clears throat] the speed. limit. Like, come on. Who does that?".

And I so I had to go I got got a stereo. at the time. There was there there was. no uh subwoofers. There was a bazooka. tube was a available. You could drop. there's no room too. So you could you. could get a bazooka tube behind the. seats, >> right? >> And some [ __ ] you know, for a. subwoofer and some other speakers in the. doors and. >> decent door speakers. Decent. They were. only decent back then. >> Yeah. and I had an Alpine receiver, but.

and I got it to to to bump. But. >> I just found it [ __ ] just shocking. that like. >> that that much money for a car and you. still don't get a stereo. >> It's pretty ridiculous. >> Yeah. >> But they [snorts] did sound incredible. >> And I totally get it. Like. >> the sound that those things make is just. like it's heavenly. >> It's totally different than the American. sound of the muscle car sound. The. muscle car sounds my all-time favorite, >> but there's something melodic about.

those Ferrari angels. [screaming]. >> There's like a sound just like it. >> Oh, there's a sound that it has. It's. like it's it's so spectacular. It's just. engineering and it's wine and pasta and. a [ __ ] windy road and. >> totally, you know, BONJOURO. >> [ __ ] yes. >> [ __ ] yeah, man. H. >> those things are. >> there's something special and again it's. a what is that? It's a piece of passion. It's artwork. It's artwork that's you.

know. >> made into an engineering form. >> Yeah. That we get to play with. >> Yeah. >> Basically a race car. >> Yeah. >> You know. >> like a friend of mine we were talking. about like Ferrari. You think Ferraris. are worth it? I go listen man. Rich. people aren't stupid. >> They're not stupid. If Ferraris weren't. worth it they wouldn't keep buying them. Have you ever driven one? >> Yeah. >> I go no. Trust me they're [ __ ] worth. it. Like, yeah, it's a ridiculous amount. of money. It's not worth it really for a. normal person, but if you have like an. insane amount of money and you could.

experience that, >> the thing Ferrari [ __ ] up on big time. is they took away the manual. transmission. >> They [ __ ] that up. >> Yeah, >> they [ __ ] that up. Porsche is the only. one who kept it. They're the only ones. smart enough to realize like there's a. part of the experience. >> that you got to [ __ ]. that gated shifter where you're clacking. them in there in a Ferrari. >> Yeah. >> Bring it back. Cut this [ __ ]. >> Yeah, >> guys are silly. >> Dude, did you see the [ __ ] electric.

car they just released? >> Which one? >> The Ferrari. >> Oh, it's dog [ __ ]. >> dude. >> They [ __ ] that up. Hardcore. That. looks like a joke. It looks like it. looks like something that someone made. for just to get engagement online. Like. it's fake, but it's real. >> I know. I couldn't I was like. >> it looks as those 1982 Mustangs. >> Yes. It looks like a. >> pull a picture of the Ferrari electric. car. >> Oh yeah. >> It Ferrari. >> Look at it, dude. >> It looks so boring.

>> What the. >> And so nothing. >> Look at it. Even inside. Like this looks. like cheap dog [ __ ]. >> Yeah. Yeah. I don't understand it. >> I don't get it either. I thought it was. like a joke. >> I know. >> You know, like you know, >> like look at this. It's got suicide. doors, which is kind of dope. >> That's kind of cool. >> But you know what? It's really dope on a. 65 Continental. Not on this [ __ ]. thing. [laughter]. >> Look at ugly. You ugly [ __ ]. monstrosity. >> That's funny you mentioned that car. That's another one of my favorites.

>> Oh, 65 Continental. Oh, yeah. [ __ ]. >> I know a guy who's got one for sale. that's a resto mod and I'm [ __ ]. really thinking about it. >> It's a 65 black convertible with the. suicide doors and it's just. >> it's mint and it's got a new engine in. it like a a modern engine and it's got. [ __ ] a perfect suspension in it. It. looks so radical. >> There's something about that car. especially in a convertible. The 65. >> The convertible is my that's my jam. right there. >> Good luck parking anywhere. Yeah,

>> you might as well be parking a yacht. It's a [ __ ] boat, dude. >> It's so big. It's so big. >> It's so big. But it's so sick. It's just. I can't understand how Ferrari can make. Now, I want you to pull up a Ferrari 458. Italia. >> So, I think the 458 is their. masterpiece. I think it's the best. looking Ferrari that they ever made. There's a lot of them that look great. There's a lot of them that are amazing. But for me, there's something about when. they came up with the 458, it just they nailed it. You look at.

that. Oh my god, look at that [ __ ]. thing. That is a work of art. >> It's so beautiful. And it it's a lot of. people think it's the greatest Ferrari. ever. When you drive, also doesn't have. a manual transmission, which sucks a fat. dick. But other than that, go back to. that last picture that you had of that. that one. Look at that one. Make that. bigger. Look at that color. Oh, it's a. shitty picture, but god, it's [ __ ]. beautiful. >> Amazing. Beautiful. >> Now, think of the company that made that. also made that. Go with that black one.

right there where your cursor just was. Click on that one. Oh, baby. >> Look how sick that is. >> Yeah. >> And how do you go from that to that. electric piece of [ __ ] you guys just. released? [ __ ] you. >> [ __ ] you for doing that. How dare you? >> I I uh I bought a uh an F8 to Tributo. Oh, those. >> which is very very similar to that. And. that [ __ ] car is badass. >> No, they make incredible cars. They make.

incredible and somehow or another less. douchy than a Lamborghini. >> I don't know how they did it. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? It's like. something about a Ferrari that you have. one, it's sophisticated, >> you know? >> Yeah. >> Whereas if you have a Lamborghini, like. look at this douchebag. This [ __ ]. mean Lamborghinis are awesome. >> Yeah, >> they're awesome. But why is that? Why. are they like attached to I guess. because it's kind of like I don't know. uh. I don't know maybe rappers or something.

started started I don't know started. leasing them too and. >> it doesn't make any sense. It's like. there's something about them that's more. ostentatious. It's more obnoxious. >> The doors maybe just like just too. showy. >> I know. I have a buddy of mine who loves. Ferrari. He's a rich guy and he loves. Ferrari. I can't drive a Lamborghini. I'm like why not? He's like, "It's just. I don't want I feel like a douchebag.". [laughter]. >> I'm like, "Okay, >> I know what you're saying. There's a. there's a real thing there, but I don't. know why because Lamborghinis are.

[ __ ] amazing.". >> Yeah, they [ __ ] too have an amazing. sound different from Ferrari. Little. higher, whinier, >> but sick. >> But they bark. I mean, >> yeah. Like, what is the latest. Lamborghini? They have some crazy new. one that they just released last year. That's It's insane. It's as wide as a. [ __ ] trailer. It's It's huge. >> Um XJ. >> I don't know the name of it. I've never. had a Lamborghini. >> Yeah, me either. >> I drove one once once on a track. It was. a little loose.

>> Um which one's that? >> Tamar. >> Tamareno. Tamario. Tamario. That looks amazing. >> Whoa, dude. >> Yeah, >> that's pretty e. >> that one. There we go. Huracan. That's. another sick one. >> Oh, the Huracan. Yeah, >> that's a little smaller and lighter, I. think. >> Yeah, dude. >> It's also amazing you give an. 18-year-old kid that kind of power in a. car and you're still alive. [laughter].

>> I I know. I know. Oh, dude. [ __ ] Yeah, those th those kind of cars will will. definitely check you uh keep you in. check too because it's it's not until. you know over a 100 miles an hour. getting closer to 200 miles an hour to. where you're in that car and you're like. it hits you. You go, if I make one. [ __ ] tiny little error here,

>> it's over. >> It's over. >> It's over. Yeah, >> the motor's in the [ __ ] back. >> Yeah. >> And if this thing runs into off the road. or whatever, it's just going to. accordion. >> right into me. >> and you're you're you are done. >> It's kind of amazing. You just buy one. >> You know, I thought about that now. Like. they have the new Corvette ZR1. It has. a,000 horsepower from the factory. So, you could just go into a Corvette. dealership if you got the cash, slap.

down some money, and you have a 1000. horsepower car that goes 0 to 60 in 2. seconds, and you just go out there and. [ __ ] bye. >> Good luck. [laughter]. >> Be be safe. >> Yeah. Like, what are you doing? How are. you allowed to have that? Like, that you. should have to have a pilot's license to. drive one of those things. >> Totally. Or just, you know, racetrack. only, whatever. >> Right. But imagine you're an 18-year-old. rockar. Here. Here you go. [laughter]. All of a sudden, >> dude, you've got one. And back then, the.

Corvettes like yours, especially when. you put a blower on it, those [ __ ]. things had no traction control. They had. no anti-lock brakes. There's no nannies. There was nothing to protect you. No, >> it was just madness. Just pure. [laughter]. madness. >> Did you ever take it to a track or. anything? Uh, >> no. Never did. >> Have you ever driven around a track? You. ever done that? >> Yes. >> That's fun. >> Yeah, that is fun. >> Yeah, >> that is fun. I went to I spent some time. at the Skip Barber school. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. Yeah. I had to of course the Libra.

in me has to [ __ ] learn about. everything apex and study like there's. there's a lot of physical and you know. technical things about driving. Oh yeah. >> If if you don't understand about going. into a turn at [ __ ] 100 miles an. hour, you're going to [ __ ] die. >> Mhm. you know, so I was like, "Ah, >> you're definitely going to spin out.". Yeah. Learning learning how to do it is. was really interesting to me. It was. really interesting to realize like the.

lines that you take. Like you don't just. go in the middle of the track all the. way. No, you're hugging the outside edge. then the inside edge and cutting the. lines to make a quicker time and knowing. when to break and knowing when you. accelerate and it's so interesting. >> It's a lot, man. >> Very technical. >> Yeah. >> A lot more technical than anybody would. ever think. You think you're just kind. of steering the car like No, no, no. There's a lot of decisions to be made. There's a lot going on, especially on a. really windy turn like this. That's what. Kota looks like. That's the track, Circuit of the Americas. And that that.

one is like there's so much turns and. there's a long straightaway you could. really [ __ ] get after it, >> right? >> Yeah. >> And it's not even about the. acceleration. A lot of times it's about. the braking. >> Yeah. I mean, [ __ ]. >> Breaking and turning, dude. But it's. like that's one of the things that I say. like is really worth it about having. money is like experiencing a great car. >> because it's like an amusement park. ride. >> Yes. >> Even when you're not even going fast, just driving normal speeds around. It's. like if you're shifting your own gears. and you hear that engine, it's like.

>> Yeah. It's like an amusement park ride, [laughter]. >> you know? It's not it's not just you're. not just driving a car. You're you're. >> experiencing something that you know the. other people aren't. If you're driving. that stupid Ferrari piece of [ __ ]. electric car, you're not experiencing. that. >> No, >> you know. >> No, no. You're just grooving on the. emblem. >> Yeah. Yeah. They got you. That could. have been a Hyundai easily, >> dude. I couldn't believe it. I was like, they did not do this. >> Well, I hope they rebound. >> I hope they like smack somebody who made.

that and go, "Hey, bro.". >> They will. I think one of the designers. was one of the guys who was involved in. designing the iPhone and it [ __ ]. looks like it. >> No, >> that's what's got that's why it's got. all the. >> I was. >> Yes. >> No, >> that and so. >> that guy's awesome. How did he do that? >> That started to make sense. I was like, "Okay, >> I would ask him before I even talked to. him about him like, "What kind of cars. do you have? >> Do you have a car? What do you drive?". And if he's like, "I drive an Escort.".

Like, [ __ ] you. Okay, get the [ __ ] out. of here. Yeah, >> I have a Prius. Go eat [ __ ] Eat all the. [ __ ] that's ever been [ __ ] [ __ ] you. >> Out of the design room. >> You can't You can't design a [ __ ]. Ferrari just cuz you made an iPhone. You're going to make it look sweet and. plain. >> Yeah. >> No, it's got to look like art, you. [ __ ] Someone's paying a4. million dollars for this thing. And now. a lot more. >> I think the electric car is I want to. say three 33.

I bet they're going to sell two, >> right? >> Two retards. Two [ __ ] super rich. retards are going to buy that [ __ ]. thing. >> Ain't nobody going to spend $400,000 on. this electric thing. >> Meanwhile, the other cars they make are. [ __ ]. >> Yeah, I know. What the [ __ ] you guys. doing? >> What is the the the latest one? What is. the the What is their their main one. now? The sleek wicked one like the. advanced version of the 458 like the one. they have now. Like what is it called?

>> Uh. >> SF [ __ ] is it called? >> SF90. >> SF90. Yeah, that's what it is. SF90. That thing's insane. That's gorgeous. >> Yeah, dude. >> That's a gorgeous car. >> My favorite. >> How do they go from an SF90? They're. selling that at the same time as they're. selling the hunk of junk. SF90 is one of. the most best looking cars ever. >> Yeah, >> it's incredible. We'll pull up a picture. of one of those, Jamie. >> I'm on their website. >> And have you dude, have you seen the. body? I love the LaFerrari. The body.

style and the Laafer. >> Yeah, that's it. That's the one. >> Oh, dude. That's got some LaFerrari in. the end. >> Oh, so this is like all the cars they've. ever made, J. >> I'm on their website. I'm just. >> Oh, no. Understand. This is all the cars. that they make and all the cars they. like. That's gorgeous, man. That is. gorgeous. >> Hit the la Ferrari. >> Yeah, dude. >> Look at that thing. Jesus. >> What is the F80? Click on the F80. Oh my. [sighs] god. Gorgeous.

>> Gorgeous. >> When it says all models, they don't have. the. >> What is it? >> What I was looking for. I was trying to. find what I went to the [clears throat]. website to find their newest car. >> I know, but I think like some of them I. It's not the newest car. Like it might. have been like last year a year ago. >> Well, they would be sharing it somewhere. on here, I would imagine. No, it's real. Jamie, just Google. Okay.

I'm just saying just Google um put pull. up an image of Ferrari 2024 Ferrari uh. SF90 and you'll see it. >> There it is. That's it. >> Oh, the wing. >> Well, that's uh that's one that's like. primed for racing. But you go to images, please. >> There we go. That's it. So, how does a company make that? Like. look how gorgeous that is. That's. incredible. That's so beautiful. I. [laughter] know. >> How does a company make that? And then.

that Johnny Ivy piece of [ __ ]. >> [ __ ] thing. There's like three three. dudes. One dude like I guess designed. the iPhone and there's a there's two. other designers involved. >> They probably worked for Lamborghini. They probably they're probably spies. They probably, you know, they. infiltrated and decided to like ruin it. from the inside. Probably the same guy. that made Billy Squire's music video. >> Dude, that guy has got to be stopped. >> [laughter]. >> [ __ ] that guy. >> He's like, "Listen to what I did for. Billy Squire. I can do this to Ferrari.

>> I can thank them.". >> I took Ferrari down. >> Yeah. With one one whack ass [ __ ]. electric car. >> Yes. I sold them a phone design. >> Yeah. Just But you know, that's what. happens. >> Yeah. >> You let people, you know, you don't have. enough people that are smart, that are. artistic around that are going to look. at that and go, "Hey, hey, hey. No. >> Yeah. No. Yeah. What's with all the Yes, men. There had to be somebody that went, "What are we doing?".

>> I don't know how the [ __ ] off ever got. green lit by someone at Ferrari. How do. you not look at all the other cars that. you've made and then look at that one. and goes. >> No. No. >> Nobody was doing that. >> I don't get it. >> No. >> But you know, companies make blunders. >> Yeah. >> You know, every now and then a band puts. out a shitty record. >> You know what it happens. It happens. I. get it. >> I mean, Ferrari's still Ferrari. They'll. bounce back, but you know, guys, >> they can always go, "Hey, we're not in.

the electric car business, okay? We. [ __ ] up.". >> Well, that's what they probably should. because most of the other car companies. that do make electric cars, people. really don't want them. >> You know, like the Porsches, the tyans, like those Audi's, like the Audi ones. that are just like a couple of years. old, they're you can get them for like. half price. Nobody wants them. >> I know. >> Nobody wants electric cars, especially. used electric cars. >> Yeah. That's weird. >> It is. But if you think about it, like. electronics we think of as disposable, >> right? You think Nobody You don't want. to buy someone's phone from 10 years.

ago. >> No. No. >> Right. So, you don't want to buy a Tesla. from 10 years ago either. No. >> Right. Meanwhile, they're great. There's. nothing wrong with them. Get a 10-y old. Tesla. It's a [ __ ] awesome car. Yeah. >> But you don't want it. >> Yeah. >> People think of electronics as something. you throw out and get new. But engines, that's a different story. >> Yeah. >> You know, like a 2005 Porsche is still. very valuable. Well, people love those. things. >> Oh, yeah. Those things have gone through. the roof. >> lately. Like with the Porsches, I just. know so many guys that are just like.

buying them up, collecting them. >> Well, I think also as things become more. electric and more numb, people like they. really love the sound of engines and the. feel that you get from those cars, the. actual experience of it. >> Yeah. >> You know? >> Yeah. It's like [clears throat] as. things get more and more digital, I. think with AI and music and everything, people are going to want to see live. performances more, you know, >> and no doubt. Yeah. >> I think they they they want that. experience, the experience of like raw.

live, something that makes you feel. alive, something. >> All about the experience, man. All about. it. >> Are you You guys are touring again. Yeah. Coming up um mid July we're out. >> How [ __ ] pumped are you for that? >> Couple months. So pumped because. >> I've actually um we've been home. We. just we we did u this big uh stadium. tour with De [clears throat] Leopard.

went all around the world. That tour was. [ __ ] two and a half years long. Wow. Like dude it was that's insane. So, um, and I I started to realize I'm like, "Fuck, I can't remember the last time I've been. home like with a with a break." Like, we. intentionally were like, "Let's just. [ __ ] take a year. or more than a year off." and like and. um it wasn't until 2016 was the last.

time um we had like taken a. [clears throat] taken a break. Um so for. me um it's just been [ __ ] wonderful. I I I actually enjoyed the whole. [clears throat]. last summer at home and you know going. now going into summer now we're getting. ready to go back out but just having. that time at home was really [ __ ]. cool. So, I'm super pump. The grass is. always greener, dude.

>> You know, when you're out there [ __ ]. ripping it, you're like, "This is. [ __ ] red." And then after a while, you're like, "I'd shoot my own mom in. the back to sleep in my [ __ ] bed, >> you know?" You know, and then then when. you're at home too long, you're like, "Dude, I got to get out of here, >> right?". >> You know, I got to go [ __ ] go do the. [ __ ] Um, so it's I don't know. That's a. weird balance. you know, you're you're. you're happy until it's too much and. then, you know, >> well, it's just achieving the balance.

But it's awesome that you still love it. so much after all all these years. >> Oh, man. >> It really is. >> Dude, let me just tell there's nothing. better than imagine, right? Let's trade places for a second. You're. back there. You're playing drums and. you've been doing this for a while. long enough to see this is the [ __ ]. best in the world. You see your fans all of a sudden your. fans have had children. Now their.

children are on the shoulders. of their of their [ __ ] parents who. were your fans. Now they're bringing. their kids to the show and their [ __ ]. kids are on their dad's shoulder going. shout shout with the [ __ ] [laughter]. de devil horns up and you're like you're. sitting there going like dude that kid. what is he [ __ ] 10 and he's just.

[ __ ] you know and like. >> he's air druming. >> Yeah. just to to see that you're you've. you've sort of you know you've I don't. know just you've done a a full circle to. where now it's a whole another. generation that's just now seeing this. for the first time and they're [ __ ]. and you and you're sitting back there. playing going like. >> that's pretty [ __ ] incredible. >> It's pretty [ __ ] that that doesn't. get old, man. To watch that happen is.

probably why the become the reason why I. love it. so much that really like puts a. [ __ ] nail in it. You know what I. mean? [ __ ] it. >> That's that's like and that can only be. achieved through through time. >> Yeah. >> Right. So that's that's nothing I've. ever experienced until until recently. [clears throat]. in the last few years. I you look out. and you see a whole bunch of kids, man, and they're all just checking it out for. the first time, maybe. >> Wow. >> For sure. Some of them, right? And.

you're like, dude, [ __ ] This is wild. >> [laughter]. >> Wild. [clears throat]. >> That's awesome, man. >> Yeah, that's beautiful, >> brother. You've had an amazing life. It's been an amazing ride and I'm so. happy that you're enjoying it so much. >> Thanks, bud. Thank you, man. >> Thank you for being here, man. It was. really cool. Really enjoyed it. >> Thank you for having me, man. My. pleasure. My pleasure. I've been wanting. to come by and see you and come hang out. and talk [ __ ]. >> I'm glad we did it. I'm glad we did it. All right. Thank you. Bye, everybody. I. love you, too, brother. Bye.

>> [music].