Joe Rogan Experience #2511 - Terry Bradshaw

Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. >> The Joe Rogan Experience. >> TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY. NIGHT. All day. >> Pull up on the microphone. Mr. >> W up there catching rainbow trout. >> Oh yeah. Killed them. I've been up this. our fourth year. Catch. >> you. Fly fish. >> Yeah. Oh yeah. But you're not fly. fishing. You come back in July for fly.

fishing. This is fly fishing, but you've. got a fly bobber. It's a fly. >> And then you got that tiny tiny bug. >> I mean, you can't even see it. And. that's what you catch them on. >> So you fly, you're using a fly rod, but. you have a bobber and a little tiny. >> The bobber. The bobber is a. basically a big moth or something. >> Okay. >> That holds it up. >> Right. Right. bobber, cork, whatever. >> Yeah.

>> So, it's just a different kind of fly. fishing. >> what you're doing because you're not. you're in a boat, you know, fast that. water's moving, >> right? >> And you just go down through there and. they move it to the jets jetties and. stuff and. >> so you find like the pools where they're. waiting. >> Yeah. You go and you just find it go. boom. >> Yeah. Fun, man. Oh, brown trout. Yeah, it was good time. >> Yeah, trout fishing is very fun. Yeah, it is. >> Fly fishing is a completely different. thing. It's very It's very skillful.

>> I like fly fishing, too. We did that. last year in July and didn't have nearly. didn't I mean, we didn't catch hardly. anything to be honest with you. >> Yeah. >> I mean, maybe five or six a day. >> That's a lot for fly fishing. >> We caught almost 110 hours. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> 100 trout? That's crazy. Don't say where. you were. or people are all going to. swarm that place. >> I don't I didn't bring my phone. I'd. show you pictures [laughter] of But.

yeah, it was it was crazy. I mean, >> Wow. >> Yeah. I tell you something funny. I. carry I carry Oh, are we. >> Yeah, we're filming. >> I figured we were I carry a baby Jesus. with me. Let me tell you what happened. >> You carry a baby Jesus? >> Baby Jesus. >> Like from the manger? >> Yes. Jesus. It's Jesus. We call it baby. Jesus. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Oh, so it is just grown up Jesus. has a. beard and everything. >> Yeah, exactly. So, >> we're not catching anything. And so, I. reach in my pocket. I don't know why.

Looking for my line. I don't know what I. was doing. And I had this baby Jesus. I. said, "Oh, my son-in-law is in the back." I said, "I got baby Jesus with me." And I set. him on the on the igloo on the box. facing me. You ready, Joe? One, two, three, four, five, six. Six giant. rainbow in a row. So my son-in-law is in. the back. He's going, "Turn baby Jesus.

towards me." [laughter] I turned around. I took baby Jesus toward him. One, two, three, four, five, six. I went, "Now. this we caught 12. rainbow. anywhere from 15 to 20 inches." That's. big. Yeah, that's big. >> That's a good rainbow. So the so the so. the the um the um guide I mean he's he. got a little tripped out. He he he. [laughter].

said he said hey man you kind of you're. kind of messing with me here. That's. kind of that's kind of got got me a. little screwed up here. [laughter]. I started laughing. I said man you get. the power of Jesus in here. So we kept. it all before I left. I gave it to him. So he he said I'm going to use this. every day. So that's it was kind of fun. I don't think that's something you. should use every day. I think that that. should be like for special trips. You. don't want to ask Jesus every day to. help you catch fish. >> I don't go fishing every day. But yeah, you're right. You know what I'm saying? >> I I didn't I didn't need I wouldn't.

normally need help, but trout fishing, you need help. I'm bass fishing and. yeah, I I'm I'm pretty good on my own, but if things get desperate, I'm not I. mean, I don't want to push it. You know. what I'm saying? I don't want to. [laughter] push it. Oh, by the way, Jeff. died to me today. Hello. >> Oh, you know Jeff? >> Yeah. Dude, I know. I did a two years of. uh um Better Late Than Never with him. >> Oh, I love Jeff. Yeah, he's good dude. >> Yeah. >> Solid dude. >> Man's man. What What's with all the.

whiskey? >> Um. >> did you bring that? >> Yeah. >> I was wondering. >> You don't drink? >> I'll drink. >> Yeah. This. >> I I quit and then I came back. >> I quit for eight months. >> Not Not really like I didn't have a. problem. I just health reasons. I. decided it wasn't a good thing for you. >> Smart. I um. >> Do you have your own Terry Bradshaw. whiskey? Yeah, we've had it now going. >> Come on, son. We got to have a glass of. that. >> Seven years. >> Do you drink? >> Yes. Selling whiskey. Better. >> Yeah, I drink this. Um, >> let's have a Let's have. >> This is our 12 year that just won all.

the Golden Awards and spirits and. >> Oh, nice. >> Yeah. Won all of them. >> So, age 12 years. >> 12 years. 13 now. >> I was talking with Buffalo Trace about. that and they're like, we. >> Yeah, you're that's what you drink. Once. you drink this, you'll stop drinking. that unless Unless they're a sponsor. >> They are a sponsor. >> Okay, there you go. And they're nice. guys, >> okay? >> And I respect them. I mean, that. country, that company's been around. longer than the country. >> Long. >> Longer than America. >> Long time. >> They started in 1773. >> I mean, when you go back to Sedi. Whiskey. >> Yeah. >> Got Well, they they claim that Elijah.

Craig was the father of bourbon whiskey. Uh, and it's they do research and then. they don't have it back that far where. they can can actually say because Elijah. Craig was a preacher. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. So that freezer who made whiskey. >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> So anyway, that's that's awardw winning. 12. >> Get some ice and glasses. >> This is uh this is our original. This is. our two year. This is the original brand.

right there. We still have that. >> What is the original? It's twoyear aged. >> two. Two. Then with our with our uh. yeast, we were able to make it taste. like four to six. >> Okay. >> And so now and then we don't do that. anymore. And then this is the uh this is. this is the good stuff right here. This. six year. >> six year. >> Oh yeah. Good. >> So you got 12 two and six. >> Yeah. Actually 124. >> Can you really tell the difference? >> Yeah, absolutely. Oh, I'm going to tell. you right now. This is.

145 proof. >> Whoa. >> Okay. >> That's a lot. >> This This is 108. 103.8. eight. This is amazing. This is. This This is a. >> Why is the older stuff have more. alcohol? Is it because of the process of. aging? >> Well, yeah. Because it's also This is a. bourbon that it's a single barrel. bourbon. And when we brought it out, you. leave it in there. And this is what it.

turned out to. Now, we could dilute it. by simply putting water in it and dilute. it down to This is 103.8. Then it's 51.9. proof or proof of alcohol. This this. 149. >> Bust it out, Terry. Let's [laughter] go. >> If we bust it How long we planning on. talk today? >> Let's talk for a couple hours. [laughter]. >> We may not be able to make a couple. hours. >> We'll give it our best shot. >> Okay, we'll do our best. You Who's got a.

knife? Who can open this? >> I don't have a knife here. Jamie got a. knife. >> Oh, yeah. So, we started this. throws. everything, but he didn't throw the good. man. >> Good man. >> Lot of You know what I noticed coming. over here today? A lot of tattoos in. here. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Lot lot of tattoos. >> You mean the building? Jamie's tattoo. free. >> Yeah. A lot of tattoos. >> He's been thinking about getting my face. tattooed on his back. You still doing. that? >> Is that like a bullseye? [laughter]. >> Stand up. >> Waiting for a good drawing.

>> We made a deal. I'll do his face. He'll. do mine. >> Oh my [laughter] god. Anyway, >> and I'll have like young Jamie and like. gothic script on my back. >> The thing about the thing about bourbon, I don't know how to explain it. I don't. know why I fell in love with bourbon. I. find it to be. first of all, it's the only thing that's. it's only is in America. Bourbon is only. bourbon if it's in America. >> Right. >> And I think it's only bourbon if it's if. it's made in Kentucky because. >> a lot of Kentucky people feel the exact.

same way. >> I mean, you ready? Yes, sir. >> Okay, >> let's go. Time to party. >> I'm just going to This might This might. be the best show you ever have. >> All right. I'm excited. >> Yeah, you you will be after you drink. that. Let it sit. >> Smells good. >> Let it sit. >> It smells good. >> Let it sit. >> So, this is the 12-year-old stuff. And. it What is it called? [clears throat]. >> Bradshaw bourbon. That's the name. >> Can I see? >> Here's the thing about the 12-y old. We. only have. >> um. >> Bradshaw bourbon. Look at that. We only.

have uh 15 cases left. 15 cases I think. they told me. >> So this is a limited edition and then we. have to come out with some new stuff. But this is actually 13 years old now. >> So you obviously started this project a. long time ago, right? If you've been. aging it for 12 years. >> What I did. >> Cheers, sir. Thank you for being here. >> Thank you, Joe. Thanks for having me. >> My pleasure. Thank you. [snorts]. >> Um what happened? I don't I don't know. why I I went to my.

Woo. >> Hey. Wow. >> You got to let it sit. >> Yeah, that's that's got a kick. >> We're going to try this and then we'll. try this and you'll definitely see the. different. But I was going to my I went. to my dad who saw. >> someone's driving me home today. >> Yeah. My father's father was an. alcoholic [snorts] and um I went to my. dad prior to him passing and I said, "Hey, Dad, what would you think if I got. into the spirits business?" And he says, "You know what I think." And I went, "Well, I'm just asking you." And he.

says, "Absolutely not." And I said, "Okay." So I shut her down. [clears throat] My dad died. Oh, wow. It's um 12 years ago, he died. My mother died two years ago. Anyway, so after his passing, two or three years, four years, I was. sitting and I was sitting around. I was. trying to I remember um uh William. Cohen, Secretary of State William Cohen. He says, "What do you do to make a. living?" I said, "Well, I work on Fox.

I'm a broadcaster." And he says, "Is. that it?" And I said, "Well, I'm a horse. and cattle breeder. I raise uh. registered cattle and in the breeding. business, training business with quarter. horses." He said, "Oh, okay." Okay. He. says, "Is there anything else?" I said, "Well, I get public. I speak for. corporations." So, he was trying to find. out. And he he took a liking to me. He. says, basically what he was telling me, you should brand yourself and not have. to travel so much. >> Yeah. >> Cuz I travel 250 days last year. We.

travel. >> That's a lot. >> That's a lot. But my wife travels with. me. So, that's good. >> That helps. >> Yeah. What do you want to do with baby. Jesus? Let's sit him right here. >> Sit him right there. see if any fish got. him flop out of I got him facing you. [laughter]. >> We'll see what happens. And anyway, so. he said, "Basically, you ought to brand. yourself. Get into something that you. can." And I said, "Well, I don't really. know anything. I know football. I can. talk football. I know how to make people. laugh. I know how to I know how to give. speeches to major corporations and build.

a build a program in the speeches. I. know quarter horses. I know how to um um. select horses, show horses. I know how. to train them. I don't do that, but I. have a trainer for all that now. And I. have people for the breeding part of it. And I said, "In cattle, I I know I know. the bloodlines and things of that. nature, but I got people doing that.". So, I I I just got this I never forgot. that, you know, that's William Cole, one. of he's pretty smart dude. And um so.

we're. I'm home. think it was kind of a rainy day and I'm. sitting there my little brain's going. I'm going you know what what do you want. to do? What do you For some reason I was. going what do you want to do? Cuz I. remember one time I remember one time I. got real uncomfortable because I didn't. have a normal job. So I I ran into this. guy that owned this cosmetic company and. I said, "Do you have a job? Could you. could you hire me to teach me the. cosmetic industry?" And he said, "Yeah, yeah." And he gave me $5,000 a month. So.

I I I had to go to work and put a tie on. and a coat because I wanted to be like. everybody. Everybody goes to work, right? >> But me, I'm I'm playing golf in between. speeches, which may be week, two weeks. apart. So I got two weeks of golf and I. got, you know, and I just got When was. this that you started? >> This was 30 years ago. >> So 30 years ago, you decided to get into. the cosmetics business. >> Yeah. Yeah. just for just to do. something.

>> I wanted to be I wanted to have a job. Really? I Yeah, I know. >> Wow. >> I wanted to have a job. I wanted to be. like I wanted I think I wanted to see I. wanted to see how America works. People. get up and kiss their kids goodbye and. their wives or husbands and they go off. to work. And I for some reason I felt. guilty. [laughter] I didn't have a job. I know. it's stupid. I know. >> It's [clears throat] interesting. >> So, I I got a job. Now, here's the.

thing, Joe. My office was right on the. road across the street from the golf. course I was a member of and I was. watching my buddies come up the fair. fairway and I'd stand at the window and. I'd look at them and I go, "That. I I should be playing golf with those. guys right now.". >> Yeah. >> So, >> how long did you last? >> Two months. [laughter]. I couldn't stand it. Hey, I'll tell you, man. I couldn't stand it. Most people.

can't. >> I ju but I can't explain it other than I. just felt guilty. that, you know, people say, "Well, athletes, they got, you know, it's true. >> They got all this money and they got. this and they got that." And. >> you smoke cigars, Terry? >> I do. >> You want one? >> Yeah, I do. >> All right, let me get you. >> I want I want a really good one. [laughter]. >> You got them? Oh, yeah. Hey, I. I love Hey, that's my wife. I've got the. only I'm probably married to the only.

wife who lets me smoke in the house. >> Really? >> You married? >> Yes. I can't smoke in the house. >> Oh, see there. >> Everything you see in this place is. because I can't do anything at home. All. the elkheads and all the crazy artwork. and Jimmyi Hendris and all that jazz. >> Yeah. It's like I let her decorate the. house. Yeah. You know what I mean? >> It's beautiful. It's very excit if if my. house would look like a 16-year-old boy. won the lottery. That's what it looked. like. >> I can understand that. I don't know why. I honestly simulators. And.

>> I don't know why my why my wife lets me. smoke, but if she said if she Yeah. Oh, you're saying yours don't. Doesn't mine. loves me, too. But we make concessions. >> Okay. >> You know what I mean? >> All right. So, anyway, I. >> But I have a a pool room like where I. play pool. No, it's out. >> Oh, outside. >> Out in the barn. And I go out there and. I smoke. >> I have a cigar. >> Yeah. >> This one, sir. >> Oh, bless you. Yeah. This is good. >> You smoke Cuban cigars?

>> I do when I can get them. But you know. what I mean. There's a lot of them that. aren't even really Cuban. They're lying. to you. >> There you go, sir. I think out of all. the counterfeit stuff, >> be the greatest interview I've ever been. a part of. Not only are we going to. drink award-winning bourbon, Bradshaw. Bourbon, by the way, >> and we're smoking this is amazing cigar. >> Yeah. Shout out to Foundation Cigars. >> Wow. >> What is this? >> Uh Dominican, I believe. No, Nicaraguan.

>> Yeah. Is it our fathers or our fathers? >> The name of the company? >> Yeah. >> No, it's uh Foundation. Foundation. cigars. >> I got to get the name. >> This is called the Tabernacle. This is. his uh. >> Foundation Cigars. >> Yeah. Good. Right. Oh, >> legit, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. If I had your kind of money, I. could afford these, you know. >> Foundation. >> I'll have him send you a box. He give. them to me for free. >> Serious. >> Yeah. He's a friend of the show. >> Can I get like a monthly deliver? [laughter]. >> I bet he will. I bet he will. Just make. a little Instagram post or something.

He'll be happy to hook you up. >> I got this friend. He built our house. Huge elk hunter, which I know you are. And so [laughter]. he goes out and he shoots this massive. elk. I mean, this monster. His the. bottom of his horn was like this big. around just massive. 7 by7. >> in Idaho. >> Uh New Mexico. >> New Mexico's big extraordinary big elk. in New Mexico. >> Yeah. Shot him with a bow. He's a bow. hunter like you. And so he brings it.

home. Now he's got his fireplace. All. right. He's got two over here, two over. here. But you got to balance it up, right? one. right in the middle. So he's he gets his. horn. You got the European European. mount? Yes. That's what he does. So he's. gets his stepladder. He got his horn. He's got the screw in the wall or. whatever you do to hold it and he's. putting it up and he's looking at it and. he's like, "Oh, [snorts].

this is good. This is good." He takes a. ladder and he moves out. He goes gets. gets in his chair and he's admiring his. trophies. >> and it falls down. No, no, no, no, no. [laughter] The wife walked in. >> Oh, no. >> And she says, "What are you doing?" He. goes, "Look, babe. Seven by seven. Look." Two, two, one in the middle. Perfectly balanced wall. I want that out. of here. >> Oh, >> what? I want that out of here. Get that. out of here. That's not going up there. Baba, get it out of here.

>> He had to take it down. You know where. it is now? >> Where is it now? >> Garage. >> I know. [laughter] I killed him. I said. I said, "Give it to me. I'll hang it in. my living room. My wife doesn't care.". >> That's not good. >> Massive. >> Yeah. >> Get it out of here. That's That's not. what you want to hear. >> Fight night is here. Title shots, debut. killers, and the rising contender. nobody's talking about yet. And only. DraftKings has you covered every step of. the way. The DraftKings app is now.

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>> I only have one in my house. It's the. first one I ever killed. >> Yeah, >> I have uh. >> It's pretty impressive. You shoot an elk. or anything, but with a bow and arrow, you're close. >> Yeah, it's a lot of work, man. [clears throat]. >> Yeah, >> it's not easy. >> It's not easy, but I I look forward to. it every year like nothing else. >> Do you go out for two weeks a week? >> A week. Usually a week. Week at a time. Yeah. >> You go to Mexico or I. >> I haven't been to New Mexico. Uh, but I. I want to New Mexico is like uh the Hila. Mountains out there. That's supposed to.

be like. >> one of the best elk that Arizona um. spots of Utah just for volume parts of. California. >> Montana's got big elk. Montana's huge. elk. >> I don't know about Wyoming. I know Idaho. has big Utah has huge elk. I'm not an. elk hunter, but I know all this because. for the one time I went elk hunting, I. gave my trainer, my horse trainer, my. tag. >> Oh, really? >> And I just followed him. >> Oh, wow. Yeah, it was cool. And he shot. this huge 6x6. >> Oh, that's cool. So, you gave him the. tag and just went along with it.

>> Yeah, I just went along. Stayed behind. when he when they had we got down, you. know, crawling around. It was Hey, it's. it's impressive animal. >> You've never done it? >> I don't hunt. >> You don't hunt at all? Just fish? >> I I can't hunt. I hunt. I don't like to. shoot stuff. >> I get it. >> Yeah, >> I get it. >> I'll kill a snake in a heartbeat. >> Or or I even have a hard time killing a. mouse. I. >> really. >> Yeah. I don't know what it is. Snake. Snakes scare me. Centipede. I'll crush a. centipede for all he's worth. Then put.

him in a grinder in the kitchen. Grind that sucker up. He might still be. alive. You ever been to Hawaii and got a. hold of some centipedes? Joe. [laughter]. Joe. Joe, hear me loud and clear. They're dangerous. >> Yeah, some of them are. Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, they're gross. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, >> no, I'm not hunter. My brother's a. hunter. My dad was a hunter. All my. uncles are hunters. I don't know why I I. I never did. >> Hey, nothing wrong with that. You don't. have to do it. It's not necessary. You.

could always go to the grocery store. >> I do that. >> Yeah. But if you wanted to get it. yourself, >> it's uh. >> Yeah. I I don't I'll go I enjoy It's. like fishing. I'll go fishing with you. I don't have to fish and I love to fish. I don't have to fish as long as you're. catching fish and having a good time. That's as much fun for ME AS ANY. >> OH, MERCY. A big island man caught a foot long. centipede. That dude caught that on the. big island of Hawaii. >> Hey, check that out. Hey, but look here. Right here.

>> That's crazy. >> I didn't know they got that big. >> Is that an invasive one or is that That. can't be native to Hawaii, is it? >> Hawaiian giant centipedes. Whoa. >> Is there a secret to this? >> No. Yeah, you flip the top the other. way. There you go. That's it. Now pull. that button down. >> Oh, this. >> Yep. There you go. >> Sorry about that. >> No worries. >> That one, for some reason, that lighter. confuses the [ __ ] out of people. >> Yeah, that's pretty good lighter, too.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. That was gross, huh? >> Yeah. So, you have no problem killing. sun bees. You just don't want to kill an. animal. I get it. >> Yeah. Yeah. I don't. >> But the thing is, if you don't kill. them, they get killed by something. It's. usually either winter or mountain lions. >> We raised 27 m ducks, my wife and I. >> You raise them. raise them. Raised. raised them. And so I told her this. morning flying down here to Austin. So I. told her, I said, "We got five ducks. left.". What happened to them? Stupid ducks. Now.

we we live way out in the country. What. what they're doing is coming out of the. lake, walking through the field, crossing over the road. >> Oh, they get crushed. >> and they're getting hit on the road. >> Oh. >> Why? Why? I have no idea. But we got five. left out of 27. Are you raising them for. eggs or you just. >> No, we just rais them for fun. >> For fun. Just to have ducks hanging. around. >> Yeah, with ducks. We had ducks, chickens, guineies. >> Duck eggs are interesting. You ever have. them? >> I've not eaten a duck egg. I don't know. why. They're darker yolk. I know that. You ever had a guinea egg?

>> Guinea. What is it? Like. >> guinea hen? Yeah. >> No, I don't think so. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's good for you, but I. >> The duck eggs are weird. They like coat. your mouth. >> You know what I mean? But when you eat. them, it just it tastes different. But. apparently it's massively high in. protein. >> Yeah. We were talking about eating. buffalo and elk, you know, coming in. today. >> And I said, "Well, I've had buffalo and. and that elk that my. trainer killed.

I could have all of it I want. I got one. little steak. My my wife won't let me. cook it." So. >> she won't let you cook it. >> So I have it. So, it's still sitting at. no wild game in the house. >> See, I know, >> but it's just meat. >> I Well, you met her earlier, didn't you? >> Yeah. [laughter] She seems like a lovely. lady. >> She is understand why she has a problem. with when we when we leave here today, go over and say, "Hey, Tammy, how about. how about we go over to the house and. have a nice little little elk steak and.

you know, >> that ain't going to happen.". >> Some people have a a bad misconception. about wild game. You know, they think. that it smells bad or tastes bad. >> I think it's taste. I don't like deer. >> Really? >> I don't like deer. I like buffalo. >> I think it's how it's prepared. I. guarantee you if you had deer from. someone who prepares it well. >> Do you eat duck? >> You eat duck? >> Yes. >> We try to eat We try to cook some duck. >> Yeah. >> It was horrible. >> See, this is what we're talking about.

No, I think it's just how you're. preparing it. Really? >> I I don't know. I do know this. Mr. Child's got some of the best duck I've. ever had. Right. Mr. Chows in Los. Angeles, Beverly Hills. >> That's where I eat duck. >> Fantastic duck. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Now that's good. >> I think they probably do a better job of. preparing it. That's all it is. >> We tried to do the rue. The rue that you. cook duck in. >> Yeah. >> It ended up looking like tar, >> right? Do you guys But do you know how.

to cook? >> Well, we thought we did. [laughter]. >> We found out. Is your wife a good cook? Is your wife? >> Yes, she is. She is. >> Anthony Bourdain went on this duck hunt. with these guys and cooked the duck for. them cuz they were complaining that duck. doesn't taste good. And he got mad at. them. He's like, "Listen, listen, listen. Don't say that. It's not that. duck doesn't taste good. It's just you. don't know what you're doing." And on. the show, he prepares it for them. And. they're like, "This is fantastic." Like, that's how you're supposed to prepare. duck. It tastes really good if you do a.

good job. >> Mrs. Charles got it down. >> Yeah, they do. They're chefs. >> Professionals. But my wife and I, we got. it out of out of the computer. >> Oh, okay. You got a recipe? >> Yeah. >> So, we got a friend of mine sent us five. malards, >> right? >> I think we got two of them out. We. didn't know what we were doing. Do they. cook down and you don't have a half a. bird or what? I don't know. >> So, we got So, you got to make a rue, right? You know, the the sauce, >> right? The sauce, right? [clears throat]. So, we got the big pot out and we're.

putting this in, that in, this in, that. in. Right. >> now, you heat it, get it this and that. Then you stir, add this and that. And we. stir and we stir. And the more we stir, I end up looking like a rubber tire. I. [laughter] It was It was horrible. I I It was seriously But Terry, I want. you to think about it this way. Imagine. if someone learned how to play football. from YouTube. Never played football. before. Oh, let's figure out how to play. football. We're going to watch a YouTube. video on how to play football. And then.

they went out there and had a [ __ ]. terrible game. They look like [ __ ]. Right. Right. >> That's the same thing as like you learn. how to cook from a recipe if you don't. know how to cook. >> Have you I've got a book out called the. Bradshaw Family Cookbook. And. >> so you can cook. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. But I I don't cook stuff. like that. I make a R. >> Now my son-in-law, you met Noah. >> Yes. He's a worldrenown, not a. worldrenown, but he was he's number one. voted the number one chef in Dallas. >> Oh, wow.

>> Yeah. He's from Hawaii. What uh. restaurant does he cook out of Dallas? >> Uh hams. He he they hire him. >> Okay. Does that make sense? >> Yeah. Sure. Sure. >> They hire him. He does these goes out. and cooks for companies and people. It's. amazing. >> Amazing. Matter of fact, I called him. yesterday after church and I said, "I. got some I always mess up um pork pork. chops. I love pork chops, but I screw. them up. And he said, "What you got. temperature at?" 30. I said, "350." He. said, "20 minutes. Take them off.".

>> That's all I needed to know. It's. perfect. It's beautiful. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. You just got to learn how to do. it. That's all it is. But it's not that. the duck tastes bad. >> Here's the bad thing about it. And I. know my I know my banker, who's the one. I got the ducks from, his name is Drake. Mills. >> His name is Drake. And he has. >> Drake ducks. >> And he has ducks. >> Ducks. He's a duck hunter. >> But his name is Drake. Drake. Yeah, I. call him crazy. I. >> I know. But he's. >> How ironic. >> Serious duck hunter. >> Serious. He plants 500 acres of rice.

>> Oh, shoot. Serious. Okay. >> Then he's on the phone with me bitching. It's 80°. [laughter]. >> Duck. I mean, they are coming in at 80°. is is rice and he's got water issues. Does he know how to cook duck? >> I guess. I never he's never asked me if. what I want to eat any duck, but. I asked for some duck. He he told me one. day he had plenty of duck and I said, "Well, Tammy, we don't shoot stuff, but. I like duck." So, he sent us five duck.

ducks, you know. >> Mhm. >> And that's So, >> so that's what you cook. >> That's what I cooked his ducks. Did you. ask him how he cooks it? >> No, I don't think so. No, >> probably should have. >> No, probably a good idea. Well, I mean, don't the book, >> right? >> The book. Come on, Joe. >> Yeah, the books are okay. >> The book says a quarter. >> Really, the right way to do it is to. learn from someone who is really. >> I tell you, I got to take a break here. This is pretty dang good. Have you had. Have you had any more? >> I have. Cheers. >> We need to bump again. Let's go.

>> I'm tell you, when this is over with, >> let's go. >> You'll be sitting over there and I'll be. sitting over there. >> Let's try it. It's got quite a kick. I'll tell you that. There's a lot in. there. You can tell it's 135 proof. >> Oh, it's good. But I think duck cooking like I've heard. people say that wild game tastes bad. >> It's It's the best tasty meat in the. world. It's just how do you cook it? >> You eat turkey. Wild turkey. >> I've had wild turkey. >> Dang. >> Oh, you're crazy. I don't know. >> It was delicious. >> I mean, only way wild turkey you eat. squirrel.

>> I've had squirrel. >> Yeah. >> Now, see, I grew up on squirrel now. You. tell my wife that or you tell any of my. kids that. Oh, God. That. >> this is a lot like chicken, right? It's. a lot like chicken. >> Is that a You're a stand-up comedian. So. is that is that a funny. >> No, it's kind of chicken-like. It's. almost like a. >> squirrels taste like chicken. >> Well, it's not like a red meat. >> Do you eat the brain? >> I have not eaten squirrel brain. >> Yeah. Then the brain. >> I've had lamb's brain before. [clears throat]. >> Yeah. My uncle Vinnie used to cook it. He used to slice up. They used to sell. in the grocery store in New Jersey.

They'd slice up a lamb's skull with the. brain inside like sliced in half and. they put two halves on the grill and. they would cook lamb's brains on the. grill. [laughter]. Hey, I was like 10. I don't know. >> Yeah, we used my brother and I used to. fight over the squirrel head. Now, I. don't want to. >> The squirrel head used to fight over it. >> I don't want to gross out our viewers. out there. [laughter]. >> Well, we You take them and you take them. and you hit them with a spoon and rip. it. Whoa. >> Crack it open. Delicious. We I mean, now.

would I eat one today? No. >> How old were you when you were doing. this? >> I was I know at least 15 up to 15. Yeah. >> Yeah. I didn't think anything of it. Brains are sketchy. Like eating brains. can get you in trouble. Like that's uh. >> Can I honestly say this? Is this the. first interview you ever done with. brains eating brains has been brought. up? >> Probably not. >> Oh, not. >> Have we talked about eating brains. before? >> We have. Yeah, for sure. >> Definitely. >> We have. Yeah, definitely. >> Yeah. Well, I'm not pron.

today, but evidently not. >> I think we talked about it in terms of. what mad cow disease is. You know, mad. cow disease comes from them feeding cows. cows. It's It's basically the same. disease that cannibals get. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm not familiar with that. >> I know about mad cow disease. They got. another one going on right now in South. Texas. >> Kind of some kind of disease. Yeah. >> Oh, the screw worm. >> Screw worms. >> Yeah. Yeah. Tell me about that. >> Which can bother. >> New World you horses, dogs, pretty much. everything.

>> Yeah. Yeah. It's a bad It's apparently a. huge problem. And they they had it in. America in I think in the 80s and they. pushed it back. >> They got rid of it. So hopefully they. can get rid of it again. But it's. apparently a really dangerous parasite. >> I don't Yeah, it's a parasite. So. >> I mean I got in trouble one time for. saying uh people were having during the. COVID thing and they were taking. Ivormect. You may have taken Ivormect. >> And I gave I I didn't know any better. I.

thought I knew but I didn't know. >> But Ivormectum, we I used to give it to. the cattle, >> right? >> That's what. >> Yeah. >> And I had a Now, speaking of brains, this is true. We're in Hawaii. I run. into a brain surgeon. And he says, "Are. you okay with the CO thing?" And I said, "Um, I had it, got over it, you know, I'm all right now." And he says, "Well,". he says, "Boy, I tell you," he said, "I. take ivormect, man. That's been I said.

brain surgeon and I said to him. obviously I said really you it's a. cattle dewormer Ivormect kills parasites. so I just left it at that and I walked. away and going brain search [laughter]. I never could rationalize that kind of. thinking but you know. >> well you know ivormectin won the Nobel. Prize for human beings for use in human. beings. >> no I didn't know that. >> yeah it's good for yellow fever deni. fever. Um, it's an antiparasitic that also has.

antiviral properties. So, >> I I didn't know that. Obviously, I. wasn't as well informed as you are. >> Yeah. Well, I got in trouble for it. >> Oh, well, I So did I. >> Well, I I got in trouble like publicly. like on CNN. the the the White House. talked about it dur I got over co you. don't know the story so and for the. people that know the story I'm sorry I. have to repeat it but during the. pandemic um I got co and we had a me and. Dave Chappelle were doing a show in. Nashville and I had to cancel it because.

I had CO and so I made a video um saying. that I feel better but we have to cancel. the shows I had COVID I was sick for a. couple days but now I'm fine and I. explained all the stuff that I took I. took a bunch of monoconal antibodies and. one of the things that I took was. ivormectin. >> Yeah. >> So it became this huge thing on CNN. because they wanted everybody to get. vaccinated. So they had all these. different people saying that I was. taking horse dewormer. Well human. medication prescribed to me by my doctor.

who also took ivormectin also got co. also got better. And he didn't take all. the stuff that I took. >> Yeah. >> I took a bunch of stuff but they changed. the color of my skin. They made my skin. look green on CNN. >> Like no [ __ ] Oh, >> no [ __ ] Like I do. >> They they literally put a filter on my. my face to make me look green. >> They would put a callous head over me. >> I honestly did not know that you that a. human inside and takes me. >> But I I will say. >> it was actually invented for humans.

>> Yeah, I actually didn't know that and I. and I'm thankful that I didn't argue. with anybody and he wasn't the only one. that told me that. Well, the problem was. it was that was a narrative that was all. over the news is that it was horse. dewormer. And if you're a person who. works with animals, with horses, cows, I. only knew it was cattle. >> It's a it is a dewormer, but that's like. saying penicellin is a veterinary. medicine. No. Well, they use penicellin. on on animals. They also use penicellin. on humans. It's like it's medicine. We're mammals. We have similar. medicines. That's what ivormectin is.

It's it stops viral replication. And. that's the benefit that a lot of people. >> Was it proven to stop? Was it proven? There's a ton of studies. There's a lot. of people that have written books. I'm. not the guy to talk about it, but. there's. >> a lot of evidence that the reason why. they were not telling people to take. ivormectin is because they wanted. everybody to get vaccinated. I got one. over here. Thank you. But the reason why. they wanted to get everyone to get. vaccinated is not because it was. effective. It's because they wanted to. make a lot of money and that's what they. did. >> Don't wait. Well, when you're talking. about drugs, you're talking about a lot. of money. >> A lot of money.

>> A lot of money. So that's why it's. ironic that you brought that up because. I got caught in the crossfires of the. Ivormectton [ __ ]. >> And. see I but I you knew [clears throat]. more about it than I did because I had. >> a farmer. That's all I'd used it for. >> All I used very effective as a dewormer. Yeah. >> But it it it also stops viral. replication and. >> but I wasn't going to take it. I don't. care if they just said this is gu I. wasn't going to take that. >> You wouldn't take it even if it was. prescribed to you by your doctor.

Well, it'd be a different story, >> right? Well, described to me. >> Well, I'm married to a doctor and my. doctor said, "We're not taking him, but. but I took, you know, I'm one of those. guys that if they say I mean, when I when I got uh COVID, I was sitting in my dressing room at. Fox. Felt fine. Felt fine. We got tested. every every Sunday morning. We got. tested.". >> Mhm. They came in and said, "You got to.

go. You got to leave.". What happened? "Oh, you you got you got. CO." I'm like, "What? >> Did you get sick?". >> No. Oh, now here's the thing. >> Okay, >> here's the thing. >> The question that came to mind later. was, okay, the guy that drove me over. here, the guy that's going to take me to. the airport, how am I getting home, >> right? >> Do I stay here in the hotel for 10, 12. days? >> That was my dilemma. >> Mhm. What do I do? But I did get sick. I.

got. >> You did eventually. >> I did. Yeah. You got real sick. >> It took me about 4 days and I got real. sick. >> Yeah. Did you do anything during those. four days? Were you taking vitamins? Nothing? >> No. >> Why not? >> I don't take vitamins. >> What? >> I don't take vit. >> How come? >> You're married to a doctor. >> I never I never have taken vitamins. I. don't know why. >> Really? >> No. >> Even when you're playing? >> No. No. I take a B12 shot. >> Okay. Well, I give it to myself. >> You give it to yourself? Yeah. Intramuscular? >> Uh, yeah. >> Okay. Okay. Little tube. We take it. after practice. Had them in a big bag.

We take them. >> Okay. That's good for energy. >> Yeah. >> But there's tired. Hot. Tired. But now. >> Sure. A lot of other vitamins, too, though. >> I don't have a problem with MRI. machines, PET scans, >> surgery. No. Now I got a bad hip right. now. I'm I'm telling you, Joe, it's. killing me. >> Yeah. >> And I got it injected. And [clears throat]. >> stem cells with the injection? >> No. No. I don't do stem cells. >> Why not? >> I don't believe in stem cells. >> You don't believe in them? No. But you. believe in that little baby Jesus. >> absolutely catches fish for you. [laughter]. >> No, this this I do believe in.

>> Go ahead and laugh that Joe. You don't. want to laugh when I got [laughter] baby. Jesus pointing at. You better cut that, bro. You better shut you and I go. fishing. I'm going to beg you to point. that baby Jesus. >> No, no, no. I'm going to give you one. I. got hundreds of these. >> If we go fishing, I I really want to. point my way. I believe. >> Yeah. >> I believe that little baby Jesus works. But my question is, how come you don't. believe in stem cells? I had too many people based just on. people that went and did stem cells.

>> Uhhuh. >> And what happened? They went back and. did it again. >> Okay. >> Did it again. >> Right. >> Then what happened? >> What happened? >> They went back and did it again. >> Okay. >> Then what happened? >> What happened? >> They went back and did it again. >> Got it. >> Okay. >> Right. Why' they keep going back? >> Because it didn't work. >> Okay. Didn't work at all. >> The same symptoms came. No, no, no. It. worked. It worked for a little bit. >> Right. What are these people dealing. with? What's wrong with them that. they're going back and back and back? >> Mostly knees and ankles.

>> Okay. So, you're probably talking about. arthritis. You're probably talking about. degenerative. >> knee conditions, ankle conditions. So, the amount of damage that you're trying. to repair with stem cells, you're going. to get a little bit of benefit in. something like that if it's that far. gone. But stem cells work. >> I don't I you know, good. I'm glad. I'm. glad they work. You do stem cells. >> 100%. Yeah. >> What? What hurts? >> I had a rotator cuff tear that. completely went away. >> No, that's at least a year. >> That's what you say? >> At least a year.

>> I had a full length rotator cuff tear. I. got stem cell shot into it. >> A full tear. >> Full tear. My doctor told me I 100% was. going to need surgery. I went to an orth. orthopedic surgeon that the UFC. recommended. So, they sent me to Joe, excuse me, but if I finish this, I'm. probably going to believe you. You don't. have to believe me or not believe me. I'm telling the truth. So, I went to. this doctor. He said, "You have a. fulllength rotator cuff tear. You're. going to need surgery." He goes, "You. could rehab it if you want. You could. try maybe make it a little bit better, but ultimately, you're just putting off.

the surgery." So, I get this stem cell. treatment in Vegas. Dr. Rody McGee hooks. me up with the stem cell treatment. And. then 6 months later, he gives me an MRI. and he says, "The rotator tough tear is. completely gone." He goes, "I've never. seen anything like this in my life." He. goes, "It's gone. It literally the tear. doesn't exist. >> Baby Jesus in your pocket. >> No, I had science. [laughter]. >> All right. Hey, >> it works. >> You'd be silly to ignore breakthrough. science like this because there's a.

reason why so many people are doing it. And the reason why so many people are. doing it is look, it's not a miracle. It's not going to fix things that are. unfixable like like bone on bone. arthritis. It's not going to fix that. But it might reduce some of the. inflammation and give you at least. temporary relief, which is why these. people keep going back again and again. and again. >> When I got cancer, I had to do um. certain treatments and I have rheumatoid. arthritis. Now, if I were still on my. rheumatoid arthritis medicine, which I. haven't been for three years now,

um I probably wouldn't be having the. pain that I'm having, but you can't take. the rheumatoid arthritis after you have. radiation. And so do you want to risk. that? Plus plus I kept getting all these. um cancer things. What do you. >> So you had two types of cancer, right? You had skin cancer. >> I had bladder and Merkel cell which is. 2% of America has two has Merkel cell. Both of them the bladder cancer was was.

uh. I went to a doctor in Dallas. He checked. me and he says, "Well, you got a little. blood in your urine, but that's fine. that's normal or something like that. And I kept complaining, man. Went on. Finally, I told my wife, I said, "Boy, something's not right." And so, she. researched and found the best doctor was. at Yale University, Yale. So, I went up. to New Haven, Connecticut for testing, went in, exploratory biopsy, came out. and said, "You got bladder cancer.".

Wow. It's a a funny story about that. Funny story. There's nothing funny about. cancer, but I [clears throat] the last. time I got divorced, you ever been. divorced? >> No. >> Okay, good. Good for you. So, the last. time I got divorced, my wife calls me and she says, "I need. for you to sit down. I don't love you anymore. I want a. divorce.". Oh, all right. End of that story. >> Right. >> So, my wife the wife's sitting outside.

after they get she gets the reports. I. didn't know she got the report. She. says, "Honey, I need for you to sit. down. I ain't sitting down. [laughter]. I don't want another divorce." That's. the first. laugh into my head. The last time I. heard a woman tell me, "Sit down. I need. for you to sit down." My ass is out of. there at 5:00 that afternoon. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. That was I wouldn't sit down. She.

said, >> she said, "You got bladder cancer." And. I said, "All right. All right. At. >> least we're not getting divorced. >> I can deal with bladder cancer. [laughter] I can't deal with another. divorce. >> You want to hear a crazy story about. stem cells and bladder? >> Um, >> and let me ask you something. Let me. tell you something. Let me tell you. something about stem cells. They made a. bladder for this woman out of stem. cells. She had uh some sort of a bladder. issue. I don't remember if it's cancer. or what it was, but she had to have her. bladder removed. They made a completely. new bladder for her out of stem cells.

with her own skin tissue, put it back in. her body, and now that's her bladder. So. stem cells work. >> Did that make the news? >> Yeah. Oh, sure. There's there's articles. written about it, peer-reviewed papers. No, she has not been here, nor has the. doctor that did it, but uh I'm I'm aware. of the story. >> It's like putting it in a bowl and you. grow it in a bowl. I don't know how they. did it cuz I'm a [ __ ] But someone. someone. >> [ __ ] when it comes stuff like that. >> Someone very smart figured out how to. make a bladder for. >> it. Works for you and you believe it or.

who am I to quit? >> What do you mean believe it? Like she. she's got a bladder now. >> No, if you believe what fine, but I mean. I mean fine. That's. >> Listen, if you ever get injured, holler. at me. I'll bring it a ways to well, get. you some stem cells and then we'll have. another conversation afterwards. You're. like, "Wow, it fixed it.". >> That we're not arguing here. >> No, we're not arguing. I'm saying it. >> But I just. >> there's there's real reasons why these. people travel to Tijana and go to these. different places. >> and they die in Tijana. [laughter].

What was a great actor that went to to. Mexico to have all the stem cells done. And. >> who did that? >> Um he was uh the ghost. Uh what was his. name? The the actor. Uh also um. >> went to Mexico died. >> Two two actors went down there for stem. cells. When STE cell sales first came. out, you know, they they wouldn't do it. Remember when they wouldn't do it in. America? >> Yes. >> So they were going to Germany. >> and they were going to Mexico. >> Yeah. Germany was a lot for Reginaine. Yeah. They were going for. >> I know Fred Couples was going to.

Germany. >> Well, I mean Kobe Bryant went to. Germany. Pton Manning went to Germany. They went to Germany for regenine which. is like a very that's not stem cells as. much. That's something it's. >> What is it? It's a very advanced form of. plateletri plasma like PRP. It's like. PRP but it it's way more effective. I. had that done too. I had that that cured. a bulging disc for me. >> Now one of the things they're doing now. and I don't know what it is. I don't. have a guy on this by the way but. >> stem cells. >> Yeah. But uh cancer is now what are they.

what is what's it called where you go in. they spin your blood and they then put. it back in you. um what is that called? You you know. what. >> PRP that's what we were just talking. about platelet rich plasma. >> then it put it back in. >> interesting look. >> there's a well there's a bunch of. different plasma feresis that's another. thing they take the plasma out. >> I don't know why and I'm not sitting. here. I'm not sitting here saying hey Joe.

you're crazy all right you did it. >> you wouldn't be the first. >> no you did it you believe in it happened. for you know all right I don't mind. taking A shot. I'll take a shot all day. long. >> Okay. >> You don't Have you put anything in your. body with a needle? >> Anything? >> Not anything. [laughter]. >> I mean, I'm pretty careful about it. >> Yeah. I I would hope so. Yeah. >> Yeah. Don't just try it out. Like see. what what happens when I put this in my. body with a needle. >> Yeah. Yeah. You It's. >> Look, I got a sister-in-law that's.

totally this way and I'm totally that. way. I You're one way and I'm That's. good. That's what make the world. >> What does a sister-in-law do? What do. you mean? >> Well, what does that mean? She's. >> she a liberal? She. >> No, absolutely not. Very much Republican. conservative. Yeah. >> Okay. So, what how is she different than. you? What way? >> Well, if so, if it works and I think it's. going to work, I I'm not afraid to try. it, >> right? >> I was I was uh when I got diagnosed with.

with rheumatoid arthritis and I'm laying. in a hospital and they take me and they. isolate me. >> Mhm. isolate me because they didn't know. what's wrong with me. Test, test, test, test. Boy, I'm in hurry. Then to go in and do. um. um I want to say stem cells. I want to. say it because that's the first thing. that comes to mind. Um went into my knee. and.

I sat in the hospital for two more days. and felt fine. Then they released me and. I went home and I was home one day and. in middle of the night I'm screaming and. hollering in pain. My wife, she gets up. and then thank God I at that time I. owned a plane so I could get on the. plane and get back to Florida and got. down there and that's when they found. out I had rheumatoid arthritis. [clears throat] and they had to bring a. specialist in to find out what the hell.

was going on with me. >> So is it only the knees? Yeah. Only the. knee. >> Okay. >> Only the knee. That's where the knee. I. never There's no There's no rheumatoid. arthritis in my family. None. You can't. >> But isn't rheumatoid arthritis systemic? Don't you When most people have it, don't they have it everywhere? That's. what I thought. >> Well, yeah, but look at. >> But if you have it in. >> Yeah, but look, this finger's just. turning. That thumb's just now turning. My hands. right now because I'm not I don't take. any medicine. The only thing that hurts.

in the morning before I take I take a do. you take Celre? Do you believe in Celre? >> What is Celre? >> Cre anti-inflammatory. >> No, I don't take. >> Okay. I take an inflammatory in the. morning. That's all I can take. >> Okay. I take an anti-inflammatory and. that makes that takes about 80% of the. pain away. Doesn't hurt anywhere else. >> Now my hip is you starting to kill me. >> My ankle was killing me. >> How about How many years did you play. football for? >> 14. 14 professional. That's four. That's. high school, junior high, high school,

college, professional. And I and I. played back in the 70s when. >> I mean, come on. >> Yeah. >> [ __ ] hit the fan back then, >> right? What were the surgeries like back. then? >> You know, you I mean, it was tough. >> Yeah. >> Back then they shoot you up. You know, you you're going to play. That's how it. was. you're going to play. When I. >> pulled my stomach muscles and they would. shoot me up before the game. and then at halftime, I'd get shot up. again. Stomach block. I torn I torn the.

the um oblique. >> You tore your oblique and they just made. you keep playing. >> They didn't make me, but I wanted to. keep playing. >> What were they shooting you up with? Cortisone or something? >> Stuff? I don't know. >> Stuff. [laughter]. >> Stuff? I don't know. Joe, I'm not a. doctor. Come on, man. Are you a doctor? Hey, let me just say this. I could play. All right. >> I get it. >> I didn't have a problem with it. >> Okay. Worked. >> Scary. You don't want your legs up in. the air and some doctor coming in there. and didn't give it didn't give it a. thought. >> Okay. >> At at all. You know, just.

>> it's it's kind of the way it it was. It's it was uh the unspoken. bravado. >> Got it. >> Yeah. You know that football players, they back in the Can you imagine the 50s. and the 60s? >> Oh my goodness. >> Jeez Louise. Well, when what year did. you start playing professionally? >> 707. >> Wow. >> I'm 77. >> Wow. >> You're what? 50. >> 58. >> 58. >> Almost 59. >> Yeah. I'm 77.

>> Yeah. Soon be 78. >> So, he just didn't think anything. I. said, "Well, how'd you get used to all. that?" I grew up with it. When you grow. up with it, >> it's normal. It's. >> normal. >> Yeah. >> It's all part of the you play. And as a. quarterback, I think back then or. anytime quarterbacks play, coaches got. to know that he can rely on his. quarterback to be out there and no. matter what. And I even had. [clears throat]. one coach say, "Hey, you always play. hurt. YOU ALWAYS PLAY HURT." YEAH, I DO. Don't.

shoot me up. [laughter]. >> Knock it. >> Shoot me up with stuff. >> Yeah, let's have it. Stuff. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. You don't ask what it is. Jesus. Yes. I I You want to hear. We played Cincinnati one year and the. night before the game there's a lineup. of players going into a room to be shot. up. >> Whoa. >> Yo. Yeah. It's just normal. And you. don't know what they were shooting them. up with. >> Well, we played, didn't we? [laughter].

I told you stuff. >> And you didn't think anything of it? Nobody. Right. >> It was just normal. >> Normal. >> Normal. >> You got to play. >> Yeah. >> He's a doctor. >> Hey, it's part of the, you know, everybody. Hey, you know, >> did they have steroids back then? >> Yeah, they did. I just didn't I didn't. know why why one player was built like. Atlas, skin tight, muscles bulging. Didn't. know, you know,

didn't know anything about it. Howie. Long, you never had Howe Howie's? No, I've never had. >> How's amazing Howie tells this story. He. was a rookie defensive tackler, no. defensive end at this time. He lined up. over our tight end, Larry Brown, whose. arms were this big around and he was had. like a 22 inch waist, massive legs, ripped every muscle. You could see the. muscles in it. He's most gorgeous body. on a [laughter] human being you've ever. seen. And he put his he put his arm he.

put his arm down, you know, getting in. position and how he lined up over him. and now he tells us how he's the best. and how he goes, "YOU GOT TO BE EFFING. KIDDING ME." [laughter] He said he'd. never seen anything like that. So I. don't I'm not saying Larry did. steroids or anything like that, but he. was some. >> But he might have. >> might have. I don't know. >> He might have somewhere. >> Yeah. >> Where did steroids enter into sports? Well, I think it came [laughter]. I think it became an issue after the.

70s. Correct. >> Well, it was an issue in the Olympics. and one of the things they were noticing. was Eastern Block women. >> They were I'm going to do an interview. Okay, Nancy. >> They were very womenly. >> Yeah, [clears throat]. >> they they seem to. And then those women. reported about it. They talked about it. back in the day that, you know, that. they were forced to take steroids and it. ruined their life. And, >> you know, >> not good for you. That's for sure. Especially for a woman to take hyper. male for sure.

You and I could probably sit here. >> and talk about certain athletes that. have had such a body change. >> Mhm. >> All right. >> Yeah. For sure. >> And go, you know, Yeah. You got to be kidding. me. >> Yeah. >> And and and then I think rightly or or. justifiably so. it was probably due to steroids. We. wouldn't want to say that. I wouldn't. want to mention I'd say it. Yeah. Well, I know a lot of guys who have taken. steroids, especially because of the.

early days of the UFC. >> Everybody was taking steroids. >> Yeah. You can't. >> And Pride in Japan, everyone was taking. steroids. >> Yeah. >> Not everyone, but most people. A Rampage. didn't, but there's a good percentage. And you found out what you found out. later that steroids are not good for. you. They soften the tendons, the. ligaments, and you never And then all of. a sudden, these athletes start having. problems. They start getting hurt. They. start getting hurt. start getting hurt. >> And you know, >> I think what happens is the muscles are. too strong for the tendons. The tendons.

take too long. They don't grow at the. same pace as muscle tissue does when. you're on steroids. They don't have the. same sort of circulation. >> I don't know anything about steroid. I. don't know. I don't know the dynamics or. the phys. physics of it. >> I know the muscles get big, right? >> But the tendons don't grow. >> to it. The muscles. Exactly. It takes. longer for tendons to strengthen. tendons don't have as much circulation. They don't have a good blood supply. That's why it's so hard when a tendon. gets injured injured to heal. >> Yeah. >> So, uh, what happens a lot of times is.

these guys develop these massive muscles. and they can move so much more weight, but the tendons haven't really caught up. to what the muscles can do. And a lot of. times these guys wind up blowing out. tendons. >> I mean, the the that wrestling bunch, I. mean, every one of those guys looked. like an Adonis. >> Oh, yeah. Especially back in the day. >> The early Schwarzenegger. >> Schwarzenegger was there. >> Yeah. Well, he's open about it. You. know, he took a lot of stories. >> You know what? >> We know it. Someone say it. >> Yeah. Yeah. We're not stupid. >> Well, that's a sport where it's.

required. If you want to be Mr. Olympia, it's no there's no way to get that kind. of a body without steroids. Doesn't. exist. >> What about the What about the. Wrestlemania bunch? You were part of. that. >> I'm a part of that. Uh but I'm sure a. bunch of those No, no, no. Okay. No, but. I'm sure a bunch of those guys probably. take it, too. That's how you get big, >> you know. And if you're a wrestler and. you want to be on wrestle, I mean, if. you want to be a professional wrestler, you want to be this hulking figure, there's one way to do it. You got to. take steroids, >> you know, it's not a normal physique for. someone to attain.

>> and you don't get tested for it. >> Yeah. Exactly. That's why the early days. of the UFC, there was no testing. >> And then when it started getting. sanctioned, then we were tested by. athletic commissions. And then. eventually the UFC realized, we've got a. real problem where these guys are. figuring out how to beat the athletic. commission's testing because it's only. one day. So it was really more they they. they would call it an intelligence test. rather than an IQ test. >> Yeah. >> And so then they started using USADA and. USADA would just randomly test people. and then they started catching people. and that's when physiques really.

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everything this summer. Find support in. therapy. Sign up and get 10% off at. betterhelp.com/jre. That's better. H E LP.comjre. >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah, >> that was the best. >> Yeah, >> they should give them all steroids. [laughter] It's the only time baseball's. fun. >> I tell you what, >> it was um. >> Yeah, >> the viewers were tun were tuning in. >> 100%. Yeah, >> the Mark Magcguire Sammy Sosa days.

Barry Bonds. Yeah, >> Barry went from 185 to. >> I met Barry when he was normal sized. Yeah, >> when he was like a normal athlete and. then he just got giant. But also, he was. a great baseball player first and then. you give him all those steroids and now. he's got all this muscle and he's just. cracking him out of the park. Those are. the good old days. They should have. looked away. They should have turned their head away. >> Boy, I tell you what, >> I don't see nothing. They should have,

everybody should have shut the [ __ ] up. and let these guys take steroids. Let's. go. Do you like home runs or not? Let's. go. >> That's from Joe Rogan, ladies and. gentlemen. We'll be back in a minute. >> The problem is [laughter] it's the great. American pastime and you don't want to. associate the great American pastime. with what people think is cheating. >> But that's. >> Yeah. >> Look, there's guys that didn't need to. do it to be in the Hall of Fame and. they're getting barred from the Hall of. Fame. That's true. >> Barry's one of them. Barry is Barry was.

a great player without it. >> Fantastic player. Yeah. >> Mark Magguire. >> Mark Magcguire and so was Sammy Sosa. >> Yeah. Didn't need it. I don't. >> Maybe they Maybe they didn't think. they'd be noticed. Maybe they didn't. think they'd get caught. Maybe. >> These guys got giant. I don't know how. they didn't think the people would. notice. They got They got enormous. >> Yeah, for sure. >> But, you know, hey, it is what it is. I. mean, um it was a fun time though. >> Yeah. fun time for baseball. >> You know,

I remember people asked me said, "You. didn't know your guys were on steroids?". And hell, I didn't know what steroids. was. I remember one time I was at the. Hall of Fame. Someone that was the. question that came to me about steroids. I didn't know any better. I said, "Well, hell, everybody takes steroids." I took. steroids for this, you know, but not. antibiotic steroids, >> right? He took cortisone. >> Yeah. I didn't I didn't correlate the. two diff the differences. And one guy. comes up to me, you idiot. It's. There's there's two types at least we. know of and I went I didn't know you.

know. >> that's actually funny. >> I'm you know what you let me tell you. the truth. >> tell me the truth. >> I'm glad I'm glad that I was blindfolded. I'm glad my brain didn't function like. that I'm glad I didn't look at anybody. and go what's he on I look I just hell I. just they're lifting weights brother. they just lifting weights go bless them. >> you know. >> well that's a good attitude to have. >> yeah and then they say well your team. was on steroids Well, if that's the case, wasn't illegal.

Everybody was doing it, >> right? Not only that, but let's be. realistic. Most teams were on steroids. because you're professionals and you. want to do your best. And if uh you got. a bunch of guys and the way they could. do their best is to be as strong as they. possibly can be, they're going to take. steroids. Especially when it's legal. >> Yeah. It just. >> especially when. >> you don't want to say it's a it was a. product of the times, but in essence, it. was. Well, every time the times change, when there's something effective that. comes along like steroids, you're going. to have a bunch of people that want an. edge. And you know, there was a time.

where people thought of creatine like. steroids, >> right? Yeah. >> Creatine is a very beneficial supplement. that everybody should take. It's great. for your brain. It's great for. mitochondrial function. It's great for. muscle. >> Blueberries are good for your brain. Blueberries are good for your brain. >> Frank Harris, she used to tell me, "Brad, are you eating a lot of. blueberries?" I said, "Frankco, you're. not going to believe this, but I buy. blueberries all the time because of. you." He's good for your brain. Good for. your brain. >> They are. >> And I love blueberries. Yeah. >> A lot of antioxidants in them, too. Yeah. Blueberries are great. Just great.

Period. But but you know, when you're. doing things for your body when you're a. professional athlete, it's of course. there's going to be a bunch of people. that are on steroids. Like, yeah, if you. want to get bigger, that's the way to do. it. Like, what what are we doing here? We lying. >> Think they do it today? Do you think they don't do it today? That's the real question I asked you. >> They definitely do something. They do. whatever the [ __ ] they can get away. with. >> See how big these kids are coming out of. high school. >> Well, there's also genetics like people. change. >> Well, kids kids nowadays are eating.

better, training better, eating better, more nutrition. >> Exactly. Exactly. They're huge. >> They're huge. You know, I think my I. think my offensive line in the 70s. average about maybe 260. 260. >> Wow. That's like a 100 pounds difference. than today, right? Yeah, now you love. these coaches. My offensive line this. year going to be 65 372. [laughter] and you go, "WHOA.". NOW, CAN they move? And then they'll say.

something like, "BUT GOT QUICK FEET.". OKAY. [screaming] GOT quick feet. I love. quick feet. >> It's crazy when you see some of these. guys doing the 40. >> You You go You've been on a sideline. >> I've watched videos. I haven't been. live. >> Go to the sideline. Go to the side. >> Seven feet tall. 440 lb. That is crazy. >> 7 foot 380. Oh my god. Look at that. [laughter]. As an eighth grader, go back to that. picture. As an eighth grader, he was 6'.

10, 450 lbs in [ __ ] junior high. school. Junior high school. [laughter]. >> Yeah. I you know I. >> Desmond Weston. Look at the Desmond. Watson. >> 464 lbs. heaviest player. Wow. >> Oh, he's in the NFL. >> Yeah. NFL history. 464. lbs. That's so big. >> But here's what I'll say about my guys. My guys could put on their pants and.

that nothing rolled over. >> Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah. >> They were flatbelly. They were in shape. cuz we ran an we ran a [clears throat]. our game was. >> all about motion traps and specials and. leads and stuff like that. They had to. run. They had to run and they ran. And. if they were 400 pounds, you're gonna. pull this guy, >> right? Right. >> 400 pounds. I mean, so I if if I were. coach today, just my my thinking, what I. want,

>> I want an athletic guy. I don't want a. big guy. >> I want I don't want a guy that you go, "All right, we're going to do Gassers. Uh Billy, John, William, William Earl, uh, y'all go ahead and go on and get. shower." No, 380 or whatever. They can't. they can't run gassers, >> right? >> They can't run gassers, >> right? >> You know, I run the mile. We had to run. a Steeler mile every year when we got to. training camp. Well, if you're 325, 30 pound. Now, I I don't want to pigeon. hole everybody because there are some. guys I've seen in the NFL that I've.

walked by before the game started and I. turned to to Howie. How's always at. we're always together and went, "Holy.". >> Isn't there a utility though? Isn't. there a value, a function of a big giant. dude that maybe can't run gassers, but. can stop a play dead in its tracks cuz. you're running into a brick wall, >> right? Maybe he's only got to go five. yards. >> That's what I'm saying. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. But that wasn't how I was. brought up, >> right? I understand. >> That wasn't what I was taught. >> But obviously, you're a fan of the game.

still and you still watch the game. How. much has the game changed from when like. 1970 your first year in the. >> talking about it? [laughter] But like. big. >> But would you imagine that the guys from. 1970 would fit right into today's game? >> Oh, no, no, >> no, >> no, no, no. Size Joe Green made the Hall. of Fame at 275. Defensive tackle 275. >> Uh, Jack Lambert, uh, 218 at Middle. linebacker, Hall of Famer. Jack, >> how big was Jim Brown in his prime?

>> Jim Brown I I never played against Jim. Brown, >> right? It was before your time, but how. big was Jim Brown? >> Probably what, 220, maybe 215. Isn't. that crazy? >> Yeah. So, I I always I always say. size-wise, that's we can't do it. And. then, of course, if you want to really. get into it, then talk about money and. stuff like that. But, right, >> size-wise, >> size-wise, now I will say this, the wide. receivers, the quarterbacks and running. backs could play today and probably the. tight ends. But then when you get my. center weight 252.

and I always say since I'm in the cattle. business, I'll take a little young bull. I'll take my Angus bull over your. Charlay bull anytime. Your Charlay bull. is going to be or Simmonto is going to. be huge up off the ground. But my Angus. bull's going to get under him and be. able to control him with with with. technique. And. >> wait a minute. You got bulls fighting. each other. Is that what you're saying? >> No. No, Joe, you're not listening. [laughter] See, I'm trying to listen. >> You're okay. You get some rest last. night. Just Okay, good. >> Fully rested to work,

right? >> Yeah. >> Got a big bull. >> The little bull can get under. He's. already got the leverage cuz he's under. the big bull. >> Got it. >> The big bull's got to get down to get. leverage on the little bull. He's got. all the mass and the weight outnumber. >> Sort of like Mike Tyson in his prime. >> Right. >> That's a bad sucker. >> Bad as bad as it gets. >> Bad. >> Baddest man ever. >> He came in a restaurant I was in and he. saw him and he came over and he pulled. up a chair. There was a owl and I'm. sitting over here next to the wall and. then there's dinner chairs here. He went.

over. He pulled up a chair, slid over, blocked the aisle, and we talked about. Johnny Aninus for an hour. >> Wow. >> Mike Tyson. Then that's pretty cool. >> Well, he's a a giant fan of all kinds of. athletes, you know. I mean, that that. guy studies. >> he studies warriors and athletes and. former generals and he's Oh, he knows so. much about Jenis Khan. Me and we had. this long convers. He knew his original. name, which is. >> Jenus Khan. >> Yeah, I did. I knew a lot about it. Well, not a lot, I would say, but I I.

got pretty obsessed and I there's a guy. named Dan Carlin. He's got a fantastic. series called uh Hardcore History. Yeah, it's a podcast and he had this series on. Genghaskhan called The Wrath of the Khan. and that that got me obsessed. That. opened up the door and then I started. reading books on Genghaskhan and. watching documentaries and I got. obsessed. >> Yeah, I'm a huge documentary guy. >> But he knew so much about Genghaskhan. He knew his original name which was. Teogen. He knew his whole story about. how he was born with a blood clot in his.

hand. It Mike knew everything about it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Mike studies like conquerors, you. know? He's like really know that. >> Yeah. >> He's a very smart guy. >> Yeah. That people [clears throat] would. know that. >> Mike is a very interesting guy. He's not. he's not what people think of. If you. think of Mike Tyson being this like. mindless destroyer now, he's very. intelligent. And do you ever you ever. you ever you ever think about. >> why do why do athletes. have an image my image was I was the.

dumb guy? You ever have you ever ask. yourself a question why why is your. opinion about Mike Tyson so different. now since you interviewed him? But prior. to that wasn't out in the press was it? >> No. No, I mean maybe later in his. career, but. >> you you'd have to you watch a guy fight. like that and he fought so brutally. And. if you weren't a student of boxing, you. wouldn't understand like the amount of. thinking that has to take place to get. that good. Like it's not just that he's.

just running at people and punching. them. He's bobbing and weaving. He's. being incredibly elusive. He's shifting. his weight to the left and shifting his. weight to the right. He's cutting angles. like a middleweight. He's doing things. to these guys that they've never seen a. heavyweight do before. And he also was a. giant student of boxing. So his manager. was a guy named Jim Jacobs, a short guy. He was like 5'11 in his. bull issue right there. Bull like 20inch. neck. I mean he was a tank. >> And he his manager was this guy Jim.

Jacobs. Jim Jacobs was a boxing. historian. And he had all of these old. film reels of everyone from Jack Johnson. to Stanley Ketchel to Jack Dempsey, like. all the oldtime fighters. And Mike would. watch those on a re all day long. So he. would train and they would watch these. guys all day long. So he had an access. to film footage that most fighters all. you could see is the guys in the gym and. the guys that you saw fight live back in.

those days in the 80s. There was no. there was no VHS tapes, you know. Well, there was there was no like real tapes. of boxing that you could watch back. then. So when Mike this is when Mike was. like 13. So Mike was 13 years old and. he's watching film of the greatest Sugar. Ray Robinson, the greatest boxers of all. time, Willie Pep, Rocky Marciano. He's. watching all these guys and absorbing. their styles and figuring out like it. takes intelligence to do that. Like it's. not a that's not what a dumb guy would. do. A dumb guy wouldn't see, oh, when he.

does this, it's because of that. So, he. can he can avoid the counter and duck. underneath and hit him at an angle where. he can't hit him. Beautiful. I'm going. to incorporate that into my training and. figure out how to how to find [snorts]. those patterns in. >> I always thought. cuz you hear a counter punch. >> Mhm. Do you know how hard how hard it. is? And I'm not a boxer, but when. someone swing, you you watch their. training and then and then there when. does this counter punch, do you know how. fast that you know how fast that brain.

>> Oh, yeah. >> has to work for you to counter punch. >> Oh, you have to be lightning fast. >> Lightning fast. >> And you have to have trained it a. thousand times. >> You want to be hit all day long in the. face and the stomach and. >> it's tough way to make a living. But so. is football. And especially back when. you guys were playing when they were. just shooting. >> different for sure, but not boxing. Holy. cow. I met I met Muhammad Ali one time. I was 6'3 and a half. I'm 6'1 and a half. now. >> And I was looking up to him and I'm sure. he wasn't any taller, but I was looking.

up to him because I was so impressed. And you know, we got we had a we had a. great first time meeting. He was a fan. of mine. I didn't know it. And it was. like, "Oh, that made me great." And I. went to a couple of banquetss that he. was at and he'd send notes down to me to. come down and say hello to him. Well, you know, I'm going to bother him. And. I'd go I'd go down, "Hey, hey, champ. How you doing?" Terry Bradshaw. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, have you heard this one? He'd. tell me a joke. [laughter] A joke.

That's the last thing I expected, you. know, from Muhammad Ali. Yeah. But I. loved Muhammad Ali. That was a. incredibly incredibly intelligent guy. and also the first guy to figure out how. to get attention by talking. >> and we hated him for I didn't like him. >> Did you like him? >> I loved him but I was like I was younger. when. >> I didn't like him. I I grew up in an era. of respect, >> right? >> You respect your opponent. >> You don't say anything bad about him. You give them all the play praise when.

it's all said. You respect your oppon. show showboat. You don't do anything. you don't run into the end zone, you. don't do this, you respect your. opponent. And that's the way that I was. raised. And that's how and I and. actually the way I was coached and I had. a I had a hard time a hard time when. Billy White Shoes Johnson of Houston. would get in the endzone, he'd start. doing that dance and everything. I don't. like it at all. And Billy White shoes is. a he's a good dude, you know, and but I.

didn't like it. I just don't like I. don't like any athlete drawing attention. to himself. If you're playing tennis or. golf, okay, that's one thing because. it's you, but when you're playing a a a. team a team event, everybody somebody. else had to do that job, too. And I just. had a hard time. >> I see what you're saying. >> Yeah. >> In a team sport, but in boxing, boxing. is just one-on-one. But you still didn't. like it even in boxing. >> Bragging and. >> Yeah. >> And now I look back and now, of course,

I love it now. Yeah, >> but he knew what he was doing. >> Well, it's psychological warfare. >> Yeah, >> that's what it is. I mean, he had Sunny. Liston so confused before he fought him. He would show up at Sunny Liston's house. in like the middle of the night and. stand on his lawn and scream at him. Yeah. He was just [ __ ] with that. guy's head. He was climbing inside of. his head and like making sure that all. day long he's thinking about him and and. he also thought he was a legitimate. insane person. Like the way he was. acting, he was not acting like a. rational person. So, he was worried all.

the time. So he's like worried you're. around this insane person. >> Well, >> you ever see the video where they. >> You better be ext you listen if if you. can do if you can do that. >> and back it up, which. >> he did. >> He did. Then I tip my hat to you. >> Did you ever see the video where um they. ran into each other at a casino? >> No. >> So Sunny Liston was at a casino. I think. Sunny was playing cards and Muhammad Ali. came I think back when he was cashless. Clay came up behind him and he starts. ranting and raving and saying crazy [ __ ].

and get and Sunny pulls out a gun. >> Oh. >> And shoots it into the air and everybody. scatters. It was a blank gun. >> But he anticipated. that Ali was going to do that to him. So. he said, "I'm going to scare the [ __ ]. out of this. You think you want to play. crazy? Let's play." See if you can find. that video, Jamie. The video is amazing. It's amazing because he just pulls his. and then he shows he like shoots. Here. it is. Put your headphones on real. quick. >> Grab these headphones. >> Yeah. Pull it up. Pull it. Bring it back. to the beginning.

>> Drawing a gun. Sunny. >> Yeah. >> The whole situation finally came to a. head when Clay approached Lon at the. Desert Inn in Las Vegas where the champ. was shooting craps and losing. >> Lon was in no mood to be heranged by the. mouth from the south. Drawing a gun, Sunny fired, frightening his young. tormentor into a hasty retreat. The gun. was filled with blanks. [laughter]. >> So he shot the gun into his jacket to. show everybody that it was just a blank. >> THAT IS CRAZY THOUGH.

>> SO he was prepared. Isn't that funny? He. had. >> That's crazy, brother. >> That's pretty smart. >> Well, is it? >> Yeah, because like you got this guy's. acting crazy like I'm going to out crazy. him. I don't want to shoot anybody, but. I'm gonna out crazy him. Give me a gun. with some blanks and just pull it out in. the. Alex Bowman had a huge lawsuit because. he pulled out whether it was a gun with. a blank and killed somebody. I mean, that's. >> Yes, that was a problem with the person. who was handling the guns. >> Yeah, exactly. But.

>> what? >> Well, okay. That wasn't even Sunny. Listen. >> What do you mean that wasn't Sunny. Listen? That absolutely was Sunny. Liston. >> Says it's from a movie, >> bro. That's Sunny L himself. dramatizing. retelling of his own life. The man with. the gun is is an actor. Not saying that. casino was a movie set. >> What? >> That's what it says. >> So, it's a recreation of the actual. scene that happened. >> There's no real footage of Lon firing a. gun at Ali. No. What? >> The dramatic clip circulating online. The one in nearly every rare footage.

post is a scene from a 1977 film called. The Greatest. >> Oh, I saw that movie. So, let me see it. again. >> Uh, >> can I see the video again? I have to. pull it back up. >> That's crazy. >> There you are. >> That's crazy. I would have swore that's. Sunny Liston. >> You're You're listening to a narrator. talk. And this one even has a narrator. >> Wasn't Sunny Liston bald? >> No. No. Sunny Liston wasn't bald. >> No. >> Oh, that isn't Sunny List. Well, the. video's so blurry. >> All right, there you have it.

>> Wow. That's not Sunny Liston. Oh my god, I feel like such a dumbass. Um, find. footage of Sunny Liston training. So he. was for back in the day he was the. scariest heavyweight. Sunny Lon was the. guy. He was he. >> when he in prison. >> What's that? >> When he p went to prison. >> Yeah, he went to prison. Um but it was. the way he won the title. The way he. knocked out Floyd Patterson. It looked. like Floyd Patterson had no business. being in there with him. He was that. good. That good and that big. And a lot.

of people going into that fight thought. Muhammad Ali had no chance. >> They thought that he was going to get. killed because, you know, Ali was a very. good fighter. He was up and coming fast. really fast with his footwork and his. movement, but everybody thought that it. was just a matter of time before Liston. got him. That's crazy. I recognize that. guy. That actor. Is that the actor that. was in um. Magnum PI? I think it is. >> The actor's name is Roger E. Mosley. Yeah. Magnum PI.

>> Aha. >> Look at you. >> Look at me. >> You proud of yourself? >> A little bit. I feel slightly better. now, but I'm ashamed that I didn't. realize that that wasn't actually Sunny. Liston. >> So, so find some footage of Sunny Liston. training. >> Even on this, some of this, I think, is. already got some AI footage in it, but. >> Oh, really? >> Well, there's there's footage of him. hitting the There's Sunny. >> and this footage of Sunny hitting the. bag and he would just put these holes in. the bag. He had just murderous punching. power. He was such a dangerous guy and.

everyone was scared of him back then, you know, because he was this towering. hulking figure who doctor he had massive. hands and I mean he would brutalize his. sparring partners. I mean Sunny Lon was. putting people away. I mean he had look. at the size of his hands just gigantic. hands and tremendous power. >> But you know Ali figured out a way to. just. the punch that took him out was even. that big a punch. That's the second. fight. That's the Lewon Main fight.

Yeah, that's the fight when they fought. in Lewon, Maine. And that one is very. tricky because in that So he would hit. guys with jabs and have them rocked. His. his hands were so massive and his power. was so extraordinary. >> Yeah. You ever boxed? >> I did some boxing. >> I did. I did it. I did it. I did it once. kickboxing, but I didn't do any like. sport boxing. >> Kickboxing. >> Forget that. Bad enough. You hit me with. your fist. Don't kick me with your feet. I don't want any part of that. But I. boxed one time, one round. >> Yeah. >> And I said, "That.

>> that's it. >> That's it.". >> Yeah. >> Again, it's like cooking. It's like. cooking duck. It's something you got to. learn how to do. >> You can't just jump in and think you're. going to be good at it. >> Yeah. [laughter] Well, I wasn't good at. it. And not only that, I don't want to. be hit. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Not fun. Well, back in the day, in. your your day, the the way guys would. treat getting hit, if you got hit, there. was no like take a game off, get. evaluated. >> No, nothing. >> Concussion protocol.

>> Hop right back in, [laughter] son. Are. you ready? >> I remember I played against the. Minnesota, no, the uh Miami Dolphins in. a playoff game and I got knocked out. And I mean knocked out. And I guess I. came two in the fourth quarter. [laughter]. I WENT BACK IN, PLAYED PRETTY GOOD, TOO. WOW. >> Not bad. Lost the game. But. >> yeah, >> they went undefeated. >> Woke up and then they put you back in. after you woke up. >> Well, I I I something like that. >> I went out in the first quarter. I think. I scored on touchdown, kept it, got.

knocked out and came back in the fourth. quarter. >> Yeah. Different. >> Different. >> Different. Oh, yeah. Nowadays, if a if a. player gets knocked out, how much time. do they make them take off? >> They go into a tent. And now you have a. concussion guy in the booth representing. the NFL. So they they'll tell you, "Get. him out, >> right?". >> And they go into a tent and they get. evaluated. More than likely, if they've. been stunned, they're not going back in. >> How much time do they make them take off. before they let him play again?

>> I But they have to get evaluated every. week. So it could be it could be you. What What is that? >> Little baby cigars. So when you don't. want to finish a big one. >> Oh, >> little tiny ones. They're little Monty. Cristos. >> Oh, okay. >> Like these sometimes. >> All right. >> Um, so but when they do that and these. guys are um KO'ed today if they get. knocked out, do they have like a 30-day. rule? Like. >> it's not 30 days, but they do go it's a. week. It's they go in they keep getting. eva keep getting evaluated and uh they.

have to you'll have you'll have some. guys. >> there's no set timeline for discovery. There you go. >> Or for recovery rather, players must. progress through these graded exertion. phases without any increase in symptoms. Symptom limited activity, prescribed. rest with limited physical and cognitive. activity, transitioning to light. stretching and monitored light aerobic. exercise. >> So with the UFC, when a guy gets knocked. out, generally athletic commissions put. a hold on them, like like it's a 90-day. hold, and then some of them have like.

60-day no contact, so they're not even. allowed to spar for 60 days. If you get. knocked out and that brain gets rattled. like that, [clears throat] if. >> the best game I played in high school, the best game I played in high school, >> a guy by the name of Larry Brewer, I. fumbled coming out of out of the pocket. in high school against Menon High. School. I'm rolling to the right and I. think the ball hits my leg and it hits. the ground and it's go boom boom and I'm.

[laughter] chasing it and by the time I. get to the ball and get my hands on it. and pick my head up, boom, out. I don't remember anything. And then I'm. back in the game and I mean it's the. best game I played in high school. [laughter] Dead. Hey Joe, dead serious. Best game best game I played in high. school. Maybe I wasn't worried. I don't. know. But. >> that's what I was going to ask you. >> It's crazy, >> you know. And I I went in, listen, I.

went. >> I've been to a couple of clinics. >> just for just for brain work, just to. get get um. >> checked out. >> Yeah. All the tests that they could. possibly do, extensive test because I. was having trouble remembering, did I. open the gate? Did I open the gate this. morning? >> Right. Right. Where. >> I did I opened the gate. I'm sure I. opened the gate and I push the button. and when the button's green, the gate is. moving. Then it goes red, it stopped. I.

mean, it goes yellow, it stopped. Then I. push a button, it goes red. It's. holding. It's staying open. Six times. I. remember six times. And I'm like, did I. push this button? >> Then I I remember I remember, okay, this. something's wrong a second. Someone got. checked. Yeah. >> How long ago was this? >> Years ago. Years. 30 plus years ago. Did. they do something for you? >> Um, golly. Did they? Uh, [sighs]. no. I don't think so. I don't think I I. don't think anything came. I remember.

testing. I got tested and found out I. had ADD, which was which was not a. shocker, but was a shocker cuz I. >> I think everybody has that. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Everybody's any good at anything has it. >> Yeah. Creative people have ADD. creative. people and people that are like really. into one thing. Yeah. Like full on into. it. >> Well, they said, "Well, you're focused. in this." Yeah. But when when I'm. fishing, >> I'm focused. >> Right. >> When I'm showing horses, I don't have a. problem. I'm focused. But if I'm taking. geometry or going to.

>> Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. >> No interest. Exactly. >> No interest. So, yeah. So, that. >> if I'm learning something I'm not. interested in, I no focus. >> I mean, you got to sit here and study. all this stuff for all these different. people, >> right? And I know you got to be. interested in them. >> You have to be interested. >> Yes, you got to be interested. >> But I think there's people that don't. have a problem being interested and they. could study anything and God bless him. I'm not one of those people. I have to. be interested in what I'm. >> You had Bradley Cooper on. >> Love Bradley Cooper. >> Yeah, he did. Uh. >> he's awesome. >> with the um the brain guy, the Adam.

Bomb. Um. >> Oenheimer. >> Oppenheimer. >> He was in that movie. >> Well, he he directed it. That's right. And he was in it. He was He directed it, right? I think No, he did. He did, right? He didn't direct it. >> What's that? >> Christopher. >> That's right. It's Christopher Nolan. directed. >> Directed. But Bradley was in Oenheimer. >> Yes. Yes. >> What was his role? He's been at so many. things. I forgot. >> In Oenheimer. >> Okay. Oh, my bad. >> What do you think? >> The music guy. >> The maestro.

>> Yeah. >> He did. >> He directed that and starred in it. >> Oh, yes. >> Oh, >> yes. >> Phenomenal. >> I was I was I was trying to agree with. you. I was like, what was Bradley and. Oppenheimer? I haven't seen Oenheimer in. a couple years. >> I was just checking to see if you were. on paying attention. >> That dude who was played Oenheimer, Sir, >> he won an Oscar. Did he win an Oscar? At. least he was up for it. >> Sir Murphy, right? >> Yeah. >> That guy is phenomenal in what? >> Murphy. >> Silian Murphy. Silly Murphy.

>> Well, anyway, >> he's phenomenal in Piquey Blinders. >> Yeah. Anybody that can act has got my. attention because Cooper Bradley's. >> Well, real acting, right? >> Real acting. >> Real acting. I've done some sitcom. acting. That shit's pretty easy. >> Yeah. And you were probably Joe, right? I play Joe. >> And I'm Terry Bradshaw. And I've done. like five movies and people say, "Oh, man. No, I'm not. I'm no actor.". >> But um like you know, Daniel D. Lewis. type acting. Whoa. That's him. That's. crazy. That's crazy. >> That's Bradley. >> My god. And he [ __ ] makeup they do.

today is insane. >> He was amazing in that movie. >> Isn't that crazy? They can make it look. that realistic. That is nuts. >> Leonard Bernstein. >> Hell. There you go. >> Yeah. Good. Did you see the movie? >> Amazing. Did. >> you see it? >> I did not. >> Oh, when you had him on here, did you. tell him you saw it? >> I did not. [laughter] I would have. probably. >> I'm like, "Oh, yeah. I saw it.". >> No. Hey, it's like I had a guy, we went. back to high school and met the. assistant trainer for the first time in. years. I didn't know his name and THIS.

BUDDY OF MINE, HOW YOU DOING, MAN? GET OVER HERE. I'M. LIKE, he knows this. AND THEY'RE GOING. ON, MAN. GIVE ME GIVE ME, HEY, GIVE ME A. HUG. YOU KNOW, YOU SON OF A GUN. And for. why he did this, I'll never know. He. goes, what's my name? What's my name? He said that to him. What's my name? And I'm over there and. I'm like, "Oh my god, this is. hilarious.". >> That is hilarious. >> He'd have a clue. He'd have a clue.

>> Well, he probably forgot if he left the. gate open, too. [laughter]. >> I mean, give the guy a break. >> He may have. >> Give the guy a break. But still, he's. had a few head games. >> If you You know what I do all the time, and I'll tell people this. What? >> Look, I don't What's your name again? Joe. Joe. Hey, I I may ask you again, [laughter]. >> right? what your name is and then I may. ask you again but I'm going to get your. name right. I don't want to sit here and. and not know people get mad at that.

That's I don't think people should get. Yeah. I don't think they should get cuz. here's what I'm saying. >> That's just a thing that happens to. people and it definitely happens to. people that meet too many people. >> Do you know do you know what Dunar's. number is? >> No. Dunar's number is a number of people. that you can keep in your memory. >> because we evolved in tribal societies. of small groups of people. >> Where you getting all this? >> I just remember things. >> Somebody tell you this? >> Somebody Oh, definitely. I didn't study. it. [laughter]. >> This is Dunar's number. So, the max.

amount of relationships a person can. maintain. >> So, you have. >> Which one are you? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Where are you? >> Where do you mean? >> Where where are you in the in five? >> Well, you are zero. your patient zero. and five are the people that are very. close to you. So that's your support. people and then 15 are your sympathy. group. They're not quite as close as. like the closest people to you but. they're they're pretty close. And then. there's a close network of 50 people. Then you have a personal network of 150. people. You have 500 acquaintances and.

then 1,500 people that are recognizable. >> You know what's funny? My I'll make this. bad habit. We all have bad habits. My. bad habit is oh he's friend of mine. I. know Henry Winkler. I know Henry. Winkler. >> I know Henry Winkler, too. I did a movie. with him once. He's a great guy. >> Sweetheart. >> And And my my wife says, and I'll say. I have his number. I have his number in. my phone. My wife [laughter] and I do. have Henry's number, but I'll say, "Well, so and so, oh, because I've met.

them, I automatically associate them. with being my friend.". >> I do the same thing. >> Yeah. It's my wife will say, "Uh, when'd. you talk to them last?" Well, I. >> haven't these people I haven't talked to. for years and years and years. They're. still my friends. Yeah. >> Yeah. I like a lot. >> I'm a friendly guy. >> Yeah. I like a lot of people. I do. >> Mhm. >> But in my circle, we all surround. ourselves. Our best friends are people. that we have a lot in common with and we.

share common values, common likes, whether it's horses, cattle. My whole. world is horses and cattle. Horses and. cattle. >> The people that booked me for speeches. are dear dear friends of mine. >> Howie dear friend Kirk Meny different. different. I work with him. I love being. around him. Tell him I love I have a. heart. I have a habit of telling you I. love you, Joe. I love you, man. >> I love you, too, Ted. >> I love you, man. And my I do the same. thing. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We're See, >> do you really love him? Well, it means.

it No, what it means is I like you more. than I just like you're just. >> I'm elevating you a little bit here. And. my wife is so smart. She's just like, "You really got their number?" I say, "Yeah, I got their number." And they're. friends of yours. Yeah, they're. [laughter] friends. When's the last time. they talked to Well, I had talked to. them in a few years. Hey, >> but if you're friends with a lot of. people, sometimes you can't be. communicating with everybody all the. time. There's friends that I've I'm. friends with. If I see them, I'm going.

to hug them, but I haven't talked to. them in years. >> You ever You ever You ever told someone. this? You ever told someone this? Hey, you know what? Before you became really. famous, we used to be really close and. now we're not. You ever said that? >> No. >> You ever Okay, I have. So, so before. when they're famous or you're famous? >> I'm Joe. I've been famous a long time. >> Long time. [laughter]. >> A long time. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Long time. >> Long time. But I I've actually I My.

problem is if it's a problem is when I. like somebody, I really like them. >> I like being with them. >> Yeah. >> And And then you don't ever hear from. them, but if you text them, they fire. right back. And after a while I'm going, why am I the one starting this. relationship? Why am I? And I take it. personal. >> Do you really? >> Yeah, I do. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I do. I'm sensitive about stuff. like that. I mean, if you say if we swap. numbers today before I leave and I don't.

and I'm going to text you and say, "Hey, man. How's it going? How's the wife? How's the deer? How's the elk hunting? How you doing?" "Fine." And and we get. along great. And then two or three. months go by. I haven't heard from Joe. Hey Joe, how you doing, man? It's good. to see you. I mean, how you doing? So. you get upset of you're the one always. initiating. >> I don't want to always initiate. I want. I want someone else to feel the same way. towards me. And that's insecurity. I. know. I just finished this book. And the. whole thing is I'm always looking for. people to like me as much as I like.

them. And that's not always the case. >> Well, you're a very friendly guy. >> I am. >> Yeah. >> I wish I weren't. >> Why? >> I don't know why. I like being friend. Let me tell you a funny story. [laughter] You want a funny story? All. right. Here's a funny story. So when you. get diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, you get put on steroids. You get a. balance of steroids in your body to find. out what holds off the pain because that. you got to block the pain. And so you go. on a 90day trial and error. So I'm doing.

I do the steroids and I'm I'm eating my. ass. I'm. boy, I'm eating everything. I can't. sleep and I'm eating. I'm doing a good. job eating and I'm working out twice a. day. Are you kidding me? And I blow up, man. I put on like 60 pounds. Whoa. >> Huge. Go to Hawaii. My wife and I are in. Kmart. Nice Kmart. It's closed down, but. it's really nice Kmart. So, we're in.

there. We're getting stuff for the house. and stuff. And we get we're going down. the aisles and people are, "Hey, Terry. How you doing?" Yeah, you know, I'm. doing I'm doing good. You know, I'm a. little puffy right now. I'm I'm I'm I'm. on steroids. I put on quite a bit of. weight, as you probably can see. And you. know, I'm a little embarrassed, but you. gonna get it balanced out. Oh, yeah. Sorry to hear about that. Hey, Terry, how you doing? Well, you know, I'm a. little puffy right now, and I'm taking, you know, I'm on steroids. I got. rheumatoid arthritis. You have to take. steroids and get to balance the pain.

And I do this without even thinking. about it, Joe. Three or four times in. Kmart. So we walk out, get in the car, my wife, my wife who loves me to death says, "Honey, honey, honey, listen." When. people say, "How you doing, Terry?" They. don't They don't want to hear about. steroid. They don't [laughter] want to. hear. >> They just want to hear how you doing. They don't care. They recognize you and. they're just happy to meet you. They. don't care that you've, you know, whatever. I went, "Am I really am I.

really doing that?" She said, "Yes, baby. You're doing that to everybody, right? I was so embarrassed, Joe. I'm. like, "Oh, oh my god. I can't believe. I'm doing that." [laughter]. We cross the highway and we go where? Brand new Target. Massive Target. Awesome. Target, you know. Yeah. Now, you don't shop at these places, but I. do. >> I shop at Target. >> Do you? >> Yeah. >> Love I love Target. You go to Walmart? >> I've been to Walmart. >> I love been to Walmart. [laughter].

>> It's been a couple years. >> [gasps]. >> Well, I live in St. Joe, Texas in. Walmart. We get dressed up and put a. suit on when we go to Walmart. [laughter]. That's nice. Anyway, so we go over to to. Target and I my wife's daughter told me, so we go to Target, I'm pushing the. buggy and we're going down the aisle. Hey Terry, how you doing? How am I. doing? said, "Man, you're not going to. believe this, but. I got rheumatoid arthritis [laughter].

and I've been taking steroids and I'm. I'm really put on a lot of weight. I'm. really puffy." Now, I stand up. Joe, no. kidding. And I lean down and I pull my. my pants leg up where my sock is and I. push my sock down and you can see that. giant indention from all the fluid that. you're holding, >> right? And when I put my [laughter] hand. down and I see that ring, I start. laughing, I can't help myself. I just.

start laughing. You big idiot. [laughter]. They don't give a [ __ ] if you got. rumator start. Oh, I was so embarrassed, [laughter]. but I just couldn't help myself. I just. started laughing. Caught me. Caught me. >> Well, you're just a genuine guy. Just. being genuine. There's nothing wrong. with that. >> No, >> nothing wrong with that. That's way. better. apologizing. >> Yeah. >> But sometimes you just want. reciprocation. I do have it with. >> I understand what you're saying. But. it's way better to be super friendly. than do the opposite. >> Is your wife super friendly?

>> She's friendly. Yeah, >> she's friendly. >> Yeah. >> Is she friendly as you? >> Uh, yeah. She's pretty friendly. Yeah. >> Can you go anywhere in Austin and. >> Yeah. I mean, you talk to a lot of. people. You're going to talk to people, but most people are really nice. So, >> yeah. Most people are just happy to see. you and say hi. How you doing? Shake. your hand. Give you some knuckles. >> Yeah. Take a selfie. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Take a selfie. >> I like selfies. [laughter]. >> I mean, I don't see what the problem is. >> There's no problem. There's nothing. wrong with that. You're just a friendly.

guy. And that but that Dunbar number is. what's going on. Like that's why you. can't remember people. That's really all. it is. I mean, you think about you're. Terry Bradshaw. How many people have you. met in your life? You probably met a. million people. Like literally a million. people. If you were if you were in bad. shape right now, you got people you'd call. You got a. handful you could call. >> Oh, yeah. For sure. Yeah. >> Really care about you. >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But that's how. everybody is. Like a handful. You have a. handful that you really care about. >> And you know what?

>> To take care and nurture your. friendships that are really close takes. effort. >> It does. >> And if you 15 or 20, you're you don't. have any time, man. You wear yourself. out. I I think we all we start here and. we. >> Yes. Yeah. Well, there's also some. people that disappoint you along the. way, unfortunately. >> Man, love. Are you kidding? >> Yeah. >> That is Have you ever. >> Have you ever just thrown all your trust. and love into your your buddy and then.

that sucker 15 or six, whatever, and. just boom, >> some of them. Yeah. >> You go, whoa. >> It's been a long time since I've had. that happen. But there's some people. that just don't. And then and then I'm. the first one to say, "I'm sorry. >> I'm sorry. I I didn't I didn't mean. that. I'm sorry." And then they don't. take your apologies. And they bring it. up again. I I'm sorry. Look, I told you. I'm sorry. I had no Then they do it. again. >> Look. >> Yeah, >> I said I'm sorry.

>> And then hang up. That's it. >> Well, some people just don't want to be. happy and some [laughter] they don't. and they they they actually enjoy being. in conflict because conflict takes them. away from thinking about all the things. that they need to correct in their life. So they always like to be in some sort. of a situation where there's some sort. of a dispute or some someone wronged. them or something's. >> disrespectful or something. >> Yeah. >> It's just distractions. Most of it is. distractions. It's a personality flaw.

>> I had this just happened yesterday. Did. you? >> I'm not going to mention their name. because they're. >> Okay. So, I tell this person, they had a stallion of mine, a young. two-year-old, and they were showing it, and they did a great job. I brought the. horse home. Horse wasn't horse wasn't. going to be good enough to go to the. world show, which is the Super Bowl, but. he needed another year of growing. training. So, I brought him home. Crazy. about these people. Been with them.

years. I mean his. the the trainer was my first trainer. ever and that's been 40 something years. ago. Anyway, so I'm over there. They came to church. I got them to come to church. I was. singing in church last two weeks ago and. they came. I asked them to come. I'm. singing in church and they said, "Okay, great." So they came to hear me sing. They loved our preacher and they said, "We're going to come back." Well, they. came back yesterday. All right. They. came back yesterday. Uh we have a meet. and greet during the service. I got up. and went, "Oh, man. It's great to see.

you. And not even thinking that they had. had this stud for so long and did a. great job. I said, "Guess who came by. the house the other day and saw the barn. name for the stud is Bradley and saw. Bradley. Fell in love with him." And I I. sent him home with him. He's he's going. to show him. Oh, Bob. It wasn't pretty. Got mad. Got real in church. Got mad. Got upset. And I just cold chills went.

over me. I went and I got to thinking, what did I do? What did I do? What did I. do? And then I got to thinking, I took. this horse from them and I gave it to. another trainer. And they got this horse. looking as good as he could get. They. got him going. Now I'm giving it to a. competitive trainer and I'm telling. them, "Hey, yeah, he fell in love with. him." I said, "Sure, take him home with. you." It hurt it hurt them. And it was obvious that they were very. one of them was really upset with me in.

church. And so with church preachers up. getting ready to start and I had to go. get back in my seat. And I went I told. Tammy, my wife, I said, "Holy cow, man. I just hurt their feelings. I mean, they. are upset with me because I sent this. horse with some other trainer." And I. said, "God, I would have never done. that. I would have never done that. Had. I been thinking, I wouldn't have said a. word about that. Not a word. But since. they had had the horse, I figured they. it was no big deal, right? My horse, I. do with what I want. >> Throughout the service, which was a.

great great service, I was picking up on. what the preacher was saying. >> I found myself during that service. You. ready for this? Praying that God would. help me go make things right with them. because it I couldn't stand the fact. that I'd upset them so much. So when the. service was over and they were going, I. went and grabbed said, "I am so sorry. I. I want to apologize. I wasn't thinking. I made a huge mistake. You're my dear. friends. I just don't you know you're.

and I feel like I made it right, but I. had to go and and make that right cuz it. just Well, that's great, Terry. That. means you're a good guy. That's great. >> I hope so. >> Yeah. No, you're a great guy. That's a. great thing to do because you care. If. you didn't care, if you were like, "Ah, screw them. What's wrong? >> Run my service.". >> That's because you. >> driving a long way to go to church. [laughter]. >> That's because you're a good guy. That's. because you're a good guy. I really. believe that. You wanted them to feel. better. And you know, and I bet you did. make it right.

>> And I didn't do it on purpose. Exactly. >> Of course. Of course. Well, sometimes. people don't think. >> you know that I I mean, some people. >> You ever done that? You ever gone to. someone and say, "Hey, >> I went to a guy and told him a 100,000. times how sorry I was. And I want you to. know he was my best friend at the time. and we have not spoken since.". >> That's now. >> Well, some people are not that kind. >> That That's not on me. >> No, that's on him. >> That's on him. >> Well, some people are not charitable and. they don't want to forgive people. They. like to be wronged. There's There's.

people that like to be in conflict with. people and generally those people their. life is a mess. That's generally not a. balanced person. This guy's life's not a. mess, but I just. >> Well, why is it? So, >> look, if you tell, look, let's say you. say something here today and it really. upsets me. >> You're probably going to know it now. that we've been getting and you're. probably, hey, are you okay with this? And I'm going to tell you, you know, no, I'm not I'm not okay with that. >> Well, then I Well, I would apologize. >> That's what I'm that's my point is.

>> And if you said something that pissed me. off, I would I think if you apologize, I'd accept it immediately, too. >> But you've already said I'm a good guy. I'm not going to do that. >> Mean [laughter] people don't mean to. hurt people's feelings for the most. part. >> Some do. >> Some people do, but those people you. generally know that that's that kind of. person in the first place and you. probably wouldn't be hanging out with. them. >> No. >> But when so when you're close to. someone, you love someone, you got to. have some forgiveness. You got to. realize that people are human and humans. make. >> friends for as long as I have been with. this one person.

>> I have another person. >> What was the issue? >> Issue was I made fun of him on the golf. course. He's. >> That's it. Yeah, I make fun of everybody. on the golf course. You know why? Because I'm I suck. [laughter]. I'm bad, Joe. I'm bad. Now, I love to. play and I love to play with my friends. and have a simple little $5 bet and just. not much, but I love to say, "OH, NICE. SHOT." YOU KNOW, >> it's fun. >> Me, I know I'm an [ __ ]. >> right? >> You know, you know the bad side of you, right?

>> You know your bad. I know mine. >> I know mine. Yeah. I my wife calls it. Roy. >> Oh, you have a different guy inside of. you. >> What is that movie? Um, >> True Git, >> Primal Fear. >> Oh, okay. It's he looks at me at the end, you go. had me fooled. You go, "Holy cow." So, I. took on the name Roy. So, when when I. when I'm going into a dark character, was it Roy? >> Yes, I think it was Roy.

>> That movie was great. >> Oh, >> that turn at the end. You're like, you. know, >> have you fooled? >> Yeah. >> Oh, I'm lost. I was like, >> what? >> I know. >> At the end of that movie, I'm like, whoa. >> Whoa. >> That's That's another very smart guy, Edward Norton. I had him in on the. podcast. >> Yeah. Very interesting guy. >> Yeah. I I find actors in general very. >> Well, they're really good ones. >> Yeah. They're. They are Cooper. I love MCA. [snorts]. I've done a movie. I love.

>> He's great. Um, >> great guy too. >> Who else do it? George Foreman. >> Also very smart. >> Yeah, very smart. Uh, George Foreman. We. did a show together called um, Better. Late Than Never. Never got to know him. in two years. Never got to know him in. two years. Really never got to know him. in two years. He totally didn't. associate with any of us. We have lunch, he'd sit over here with his son. So at. dinner, he sit over here with his son. I. I I it could be I I would only guess. that he's shy. He didn't like the fact. that we drank.

>> Oh. >> He didn't like the language that was. used because he's a preacher, >> right? >> And I asked him one time, I said, "George, >> how big's your congregation?" He said, "120.". >> I said, "Really? How long you been doing. this?" I think he said something maybe. 20 years or something. I said, because. I've been taught as a Baptist and as a. preacher, your congregation grows. Right. >> Right. Right. >> Right. Your congregation grows. And um I. said, "So, how many?" 120. I said, "Oh, wow. It's small." I said, "You building, you growing?" He said, "No, 120 is.

enough." And I went, "11 120 is enough?". I said, "So, George, when do you start preparing your. sermon?" You start on Tuesday like most. preachers. No. Oh, you don't. So, when. do you start preparing for your sermons? Wednesday? No. That's. So, when do you start preparing for your. sermon? He says, "When I stand up to. preach, God tells me what to say.". >> Wow. Okay, you're gonna argue with. George Foreman and I'm not. But I looked.

[laughter] like All right, brother. >> Yeah, I'm not arguing. >> But yeah, he was I I wanted to get to. know him. He was friendly, >> but he was just it was blocked. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well, he's also another guy that's been. famous for a long time. >> Long time. >> He's probably figured out how to block. people out. And also, he went through. that dark period when he quit fighting. for 10 years. And you know the losing to. Ali, I mean that was very hard on him. You know, >> he knew better.

when he lost the Thrill in Manila. He. knew better. >> It was uh Rumble in the Jungle. Yeah. >> Okay. Well, >> yeah. That was. >> They both They both rhyme. Yeah. Yeah. Right. >> They [laughter] definitely rhyme. Well, that was Don King, right? >> Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, >> he knew how to promote a fight. >> But he knew better. He told me that the. hit that I took. was nothing. But he said, "I was so. tired.". >> Yeah. >> And he and I went, "You're kidding." He. said, "Yeah." He said, "The hit the hit.

was nothing. >> Nothing.". >> But he went down. He just Thank God I'm. down. I can get some air and get some. breath. >> But he was definitely exhausted. Oh, >> that was a. >> But he knew. He knew what was going on. He But he thought with his power, >> he'd break a rib or something, you know. >> Well, he had so much power. Oh, I mean. when he fought Joe Frasier, he lifted. him off his feet with a punch. >> I mean, he was extraordinarily powerful. He He hit so hard. Yeah. George, >> how can you be that quick? I mean, that.

big. >> Yeah. Well, that's his job. >> Impressive, man. >> Yeah. Oh, he was very impressive. >> I mean, that Ali fight was so crazy. That was another fight where Ali was. expected to lose just like the Sunny. Liston fight. >> Yeah. And it was such a upset that. Hunter Thompson flew to Africa to cover. it and didn't go to the fight. He wound. up just drinking and floating around in. his pool and blew off the fight because. he didn't want to watch Ali get knocked. out. >> Really? >> Cuz Ali was his hero and he messed it up.

cuz he was supposed to be a journalist. for Rolling Stone at the time. >> So he they flew him over there to cover. that fight. >> So you threw out your intelligence on me. throwing me a curveball cuz I'm I'm. going, "Oh, Hunter." Okay. Yeah. Okay. Who's Who's Hunter? I [laughter] have no. idea who that guy was. >> You don't know who Hunter S. Thompson. is? >> Why would I know him? >> You don't you never heard of him? The. Gonzo journalist. Hunter S. Thompson. A. very famous journalist. >> Is he in the quarter horse journal? >> No. The Angus Weekly. No.

>> No. >> He's the guy from Fear and Loathing in. Las Vegas. Do you know that? You never. heard of that book? >> No. >> The movie that Johnny Depp did, Fear and. Loathing in Las Vegas, where he played. Hunter Thompson. >> He did write that about horses. The. Kentucky Derby is decadent and depraved. That's one of his best works. >> Really? >> It's a fantastic story. >> Hey, listen. When I first. >> That's Hunter Thompson. He was amazing. >> When I first got into the cattle. business, my wife ex-wife and I went to. a big cattle sale. So, you're to your. point about me saying, "I don't know who. he is." Now, I just played it off. All.

right. >> I didn't want to embarrass myself, but. then I got to thinking, I don't know who. this guy is. Now, you answered who he. was, but I didn't care. I You know, I. get it. >> So, I go to this cattle sale. this. auctioneer and I this auctioneer is out. there and he wants to meet me, Terry. Bradshaw. So I got my ex-wife there, the. auctioneer and a couple of his ring. stewards, you know, and we're sitting. there talking. So I asked a simple. question. So tell me, Mr. Auctioneer, what do you make the most money on. in auctioning off stuff? He go, Terry,

we we're really hitting a home run right. now with limousines. Limousines. Now, see my brain I'm at a. cow auction, >> right? And he's a cow auctioneer, >> right? >> He's not supposed to sell cars, >> right? >> Cars. When you think cars, limousines. >> That's what I would have thought. >> That's what I'm about [laughter] I was. about to say to him, "Oh my god, you. mean to tell me you sell cars?" And my. ex ex-wife goes, "You mean to tell me.

that you sell cars?" [laughter]. And I'm AND HE GOES, "OH, SWEETIE." And. I'm like, [laughter] "This is some funny. [ __ ] here, boy.". What a dumbass. [laughter]. >> And he goes, "No, honey. Limousine is a. breed of cattle.". >> Oh, that's a limousine. >> There you go. There's a limousine right. there. You know what I like about this. show? When you just think you're. throwing everybody a curveball, they. throw it up on the screen. That's Jamie. >> Jamie, you're amazing, man.

>> He's the best. >> When he's sober, he is numb. Numbutter. Seriously. >> When he's sober. >> When he's sober. You should see him when. he's drunk. >> Oh my god. >> It's even better. >> But anyway, I thought, you know, I could. I should write a book about some of. these stuff. But. >> you should. >> I should. >> Why not? >> I don't know. I think I got enough time. >> Yeah. Maybe a documentary. Maybe just. >> sit down with someone, have them tell. tell all these stories. >> Yeah. You thinking nobody care about. these stories? >> Sure they would. >> Absolutely. Edit them up. Do a good job. with the editing. >> Should I start a podcast?

>> Yeah. >> No, I don't think so. >> Terry Bradshaw experience. >> No, I don't think so. No. [laughter] You. know, you know what, Joe? Listen. >> You started this 15 years ago or so. >> Something like that. Yeah. >> Do you have any idea it would be like. this? >> No. >> No. >> So, why do I want to do something like. this when there's a million podcasts. going on? >> Well, you would only do it if you like. doing it. >> I I would not like doing it. >> Well, then don't do it. >> I don't want to. Look, I got enough. [laughter]. I got enough on my plate right now. >> Yeah. Don't do it unless it seems. interesting to you.

>> And besides that, who's going to come on. my show? A lot of people would come on. the Terry Bradshaw show. I don't think. so. >> I came on your show when you had a TV. show. >> Did you? Yeah. >> What show was that? >> Remember you had a TV show? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I was on it. I was a guest. >> when I had uh the Fox show. The. >> whatever that talk show thing you did. was. >> Get out. >> Yeah. >> You were one of my star guests. >> I was a guest when I was on News Radio. That was a a sitcom. Yeah. >> Oh. Well, >> I believe it was News Radio. It was a. long time ago. >> Oh, I remember. [laughter].

>> No, you don't. No, you know. >> Oh, no. No, Joe. Yeah, you were great, BY THE WAY. >> I LOVED YOU, MAN. You were great. >> We talked about Limousine Cattle. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. Hunter Thompson. >> Are you What are you drinking? I'm. drinking coffee now. Smart. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That was a fun show. >> I know. I don't remember. >> But you could do something like that if. you wanted to. I mean, you could do. anything if you wanted to, but you. definitely would get guests if you ever. wanted to do a podcast. >> I did a radio show once. >> How was that? >> It was good. It's good, but it was just.

hard to get people. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> That doesn't make sense to me. >> Well, >> where were you doing it out of. >> LA? >> Oh, there's so many people in LA. How's. that hard to. >> When I had my daytime show in LA, I. couldn't get anybody. >> Really? >> I got um Whoopi Goldberg one time. But. you're laughing. >> How was she? Was she fun? >> Yeah, she was a blast. >> Yeah, she was. She was the biggest thing. we ever had on. >> Probably fun when she's not on the view. >> Yeah. Well, [snorts]. I don't know.

>> All those hands get together and it's. >> I watched that show. I'm like, "Ladies, go outside. Hug a child.". >> I had Whoopi that you know who I really. I had Charlton H. >> Ah, >> now you're talking. >> How was he? >> Oh, fabulous. >> Yeah. >> I I couldn't The show could I could have. done three hours. I was just fascinated. with He was so nice, you know. Is there. anything worse, Joe, than thinking you.

and it's my understanding you won't. bring people on here that you don't feel. comfortable with? >> No. If I'm not interested in talking. >> Yeah. So, I'm I'm very honored to be. here today, but can you can you imagine. can you imagine having people on that. are just jerks? >> Yeah. >> Oh. and are interviewing them and it's. like oh god where can I go here to get. something out of this interview you know. it's just God.

that's just but yeah but Charlton H. >> I had Gar Brooks which was fabulous I. gave him the whole I gave Charlton H the. whole hour just me and him it was kind. of like this. >> he was amazing yeah. >> he was like one of the first big actors. that was like publicly conservative. remember he was Well, he did the NRA. That was They caught hell for that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Was he the head of the NRA at one point? >> No. No. No. It was a part of the NRA. >> Part of it. I think he. >> did something with the NRA.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. But he was Yeah. He was huge. >> He famously was like, "You can have my. gun when you pry my cold dead fingers. from it." [laughter]. >> Say, "I'm Yeah. I'm My brother has I. don't have any guns." And what do you do. with all those guns, man? You got to. have guns. I said, "Gary, he's got those. those rifles that shoot 5,000 rounds in. 10 seconds." The NR [laughter]. what are those things called? >> AR-15. >> He's got five or six. What do you do. with all those? You never know when.

you're going to need a gun. [laughter]. >> There's a lot of people like that in. this country. >> Oh my god, they are. >> And I got a I got a um. >> What did I got? I got a bunch of guns, but I gave them all Everybody gives me. guns. I don't shoot guns. >> You don't shoot guns at all? >> No. >> No. >> No. My wife only let me put a gun by the. bed. I've been I've been um burglarized. six times. >> Have you? Really? >> Yeah. >> I GOT SHOT AT with a shotgun. This is. how I can tell you that when you get.

shot at with a shotgun, flames come out. of the gun. >> Flames. And I'm [laughter] running the. backyard jump to get in my car and this. guy goes around the backside. Boom. and. flames every and and BB's [laughter]. >> and I get in the in the old uh GTO 19 70. GTO. >> yellow and black. Oh man, get her done. Yeah, boy. This is nice. And I got in, but I'm used to pushing the button or.

pull in reverse, you go down, right? I. pull it down, I turn around, I hit the. brake, I go forward, right in through. the wall. Realized you got to go one. click. Ah, >> so yeah, it was not good. Not good. But. my wife won't let me keep anything. >> So where where did you get burglarized. six times? >> Rustin. >> Rustin. >> Rustin, Louisiana. Mansfield, Louisiana. On my ranches. Yeah. >> On your ranches? >> Yeah. >> So they came onto the ranch? >> Yeah. >> How big was the ranch? >> Uh 400 acres at the time.

>> Oh. So they had to do some driving to. get to the house. >> and they had to go through a the gate. The [clears throat] gate the gate are. locked. So how did they get in? And you. ever let me tell you something. You are. lay in bed at night and it's 1:00 am in. the morning and you feel the presence of. somebody else in your house. >> All right? And a flashlight is going. over your head and going through the. wall like this. You.

I I can't even begin to tell you. You. can't breathe. And you don't And I'm. laying down like this and I'm flattening. myself. And back in those days, you're. too young to know this. Remember the. well the princess phone? You know what. the princess phone is? >> Princess phone. >> You know everything we've been talking. about today. You've been throwing all. kind of [ __ ] up here. And you don't know. what a princess phone. Do you know what? >> You say, are you saying prince phone? >> Princess. >> Princess Princess phone. >> It's a phone. It was one of the first. push button phones. You didn't have to.

>> Okay. >> It's Princess. So I took my Look at you. >> [laughter]. >> It doesn't. >> That's a princess phone. >> THERE YOU GO. Thank you so much. >> Did you know what that is, Jamie? >> No. [laughter]. >> Hey, look. Look. I'm Look, Joe. I'm. laying in bed. I take my left hand and I. slide it over to my prince's phone. I. take this receiver off and I take my. fingers and I go across the dials and I. dial. and I'm my uncle who lives 200 yards.

away. I get the phone. >> Pull up to the microphone so people can. hear you. I pull I pull up I I pull the. phone up. I'm laying back trying so he. can't see me or anything. And I said, "Bobby, I got a burglar. He's at my He's. at my bedroom window." He says, "All. right, I'm on my way." So I take the. phone down and go and you can see that. guy hears my hears uncle coming and this. guy takes off and he chases him down. through the pasture and he loses him out.

through the. I had another guy go through my house. tearing up my kitchen. Different place. >> No, different place. In college, tearing. up my. >> tearing up my dishes in my kitchen. >> He was looking through the dishes. >> He was making noise. I only. [clears throat] thing I could figure was. a guy was trying to run me off. I was. living in the Methodist parsonage out on. the edge of town. Come to find out this. guy was living in the attic over the. office. So the cops found all kind of.

paraphernalia, cans of food, beer up in. the office. So only thing I could figure. is trying to run, but I he ran me off. >> Oh, he might have just been drug. >> I'm out of there. I don't know what he. was. I wanted to find out. >> But you So you. >> I've come home. I've come home twice and. had guys running out of my house, taking. off. >> Same house. >> Yeah. Yeah. Six. Six of these I had. >> Jeez. You. >> ever been shot at? So, you were running. away from these guys.

>> What's his name again? I forgot. >> Jamie. You can call Young Jamie. Jamie. One more time, son. I'm going to ask you. what your name is. [laughter] Okay. All. right. One more. I told you three times, right? >> All right. I got you down now. >> So, the same place. Why'd you keep. getting broken into this one place? >> I'm out in the middle of nowhere. I'm. Terry Bradshaw. They want to come in. They want to steal my Another guy came. down. He stole all the He stole all my. stuff out of my garage. all the all the. um um the um chainsaw. He got all the.

kind of tools and stuff that he could go. and sell. >> Just wipe me out. >> No security. >> I mean, no. >> No security system, nothing. >> No, I got dogs now. And now I I have had. since Tammy and I 22 years now. And I. got a guard dog. But I will I will not. leave my wife at home. My wife My wife. and I 22 years have been apart two days. I will not leave without my wife.

>> What kind of guard dog did you get? >> German Shepherd. I got him from Wayne. Simonovich in South Carolina. >> Okay. So, you got a train. >> I got a badass dog. His name is Legend. >> Then I bought him I got a a female this. year. Her name is u we named her after. the Viking character Freya. >> Oh, Freya the queen. Freya. So, I'm. going to breed those because I'm tired. of spending $20,000 for it. So, I'm. gonna raise my guard dog. >> Nice. >> Nice. Really? And you know what's great. about them? They're guard dogs. >> Mhm.

>> You don't play with them, >> right? >> You don't play with You don't rough. them. You don't grab them. You don't. tackle them. You those they they don't. mess around, >> right? >> They don't mess around. They're serious. >> Yeah. They're serious. They're. >> soldier. Very Yeah, exactly. >> Yeah. Well, >> you got a dog. >> Sucks. Yeah. What do you got? >> I have a golden retriever. >> I love them. They're great, but he ain't. guarding [ __ ]. >> No, I know HE'LL PROBABLY HEY Y'ALL, COME ON IN. THERE'S ICE CREAM UP THERE. Y'all open it. We'll share it. >> He'll let everybody in. I have another. dog. >> I've got eight dachshunds. >> I have another dog that's a King Charles.

Cavalier. You know what those are? The. little tiny dogs. Oh my god, he's so. adorable. He jumps in the pool and he. he's just started he's a year old and he. started swimming over the last couple. months and he gets so excited that he. whines like you you you think he's in. pain or something. >> He's talking he's talking he's talking. to you. >> Yeah. And he just can't wait to jump in. the water. >> Really free. >> Oh, he loves it. >> Two of my dogs talk constantly. >> Oh, really? Oh, and oh, and this morning.

I'm a little tired today cuz for some. reason these two these two they sleep. with me every night. Their names are. Sadie Lynn and Baby Girl. One's a black. miniature ducks and the other one is a. Australian Shepherd looking black and. tan, you know, Spotty. And oh, they are. precious. But baby girl likes to get on. my ch when she's got to go outside. She. gets on my chest, puts her chin right. under my mouth. [gasps]. A.

and I'll wake up and I know exactly. what's and I'll sit there and I go, "What time is it?" And I I'll go over. and I'll get the TV control and I'll. shake it so the light will come on. [laughter]. Oh my god, it's 11:00. You got to be. kidding me. So, I'll take them outside. and they'll go potty. This is good. Once. normally, a lot of times never, but once. max. Last night, three times. three. times. >> Oh yeah. 130. 130.

Oh, what? You gotta pee again? You got. to be kidding me. Uh, so I slide to the. right. Down off the bed. These two come. We go outside. I'm so sleepy. I sit on. the steps and put my head against the. porch pole and I'm like this. [laughter]. Their heads are in the doorway and. they're looking at me like, "What are we. doing? >> [laughter]. >> I'm like, "You got to pee, right?".

No, no, not really. You know, it's so I. go back 3:30. Here I go again. Then they. went to the bathroom. But this is, you. know, [snorts] so sometimes they just. want to wake you up. >> They just Yeah. I mean, I look, I'm a. dog lover. Okay. >> Me, too. >> I I I got nine 10 dogs now. Do you. really? Oh, yeah. I got. >> So, 10 dogs and two serious guard dogs. >> Two badass dog. >> Yeah. So those. >> the one guard dog is badass. The other. one's going to be badass. >> Yeah, >> it sucks. >> And you know what? When you live where I.

live, out where I live, I don't know. where you live, but I What are you. doing? What is that? >> Um, this is ultra. It's a neutropic. Do. you know what that is? It's like. essentially brain vitamins. >> How come you don't swallow it? >> Cuz you It's a pouch. You. >> like a nicotine pouch? Same kind of. thing. >> Oh, like you got a smoking addiction. >> Yeah, but it's not. >> You got nicotine addiction. Nicotine. >> What is it? You said nicotine. >> It's neutropics. >> Neutrop. Is that one of those things. that you're. >> It's vitamins. It's like brain vitamins. >> Is it Is it like I.

>> No, it's like nutrients. Brain. nutrients. [laughter]. >> Sorry. It sucks that I couldn't help. myself. >> Listen, we we're not friends anymore. I'm upset with you now and I'm never. going to forget again. >> Isn't that hilarious though that you. could make fun of a guy playing golf and. he doesn't want to be your friend. forever because of that? I was shocked. >> Yeah. You got off light. >> And I had another friend. >> You got off light. Yeah. That's a. sensitive. >> another friend I spent four days a week. with cuz I like I said I'm playing golf.

and didn't have a job. We hung out. His wife and I went to. dinner all the time, cooked out all the. time. And then one one day. [clears throat]. I said, "Hey, we just recently passed. away. Said, "Hey man, um I got us a tea. time from tomorrow at 1:30. Da da da. Call me back." Nothing. Hey. Uh, no. Nothing. Two days, three days, four. days, 5 days, a week, two weeks, a. month. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Never heard of Never heard from him.

again. >> What happened? >> His wife didn't like me. >> Whoa. >> That's what I found out. >> His wife didn't like you. >> Yeah. What's not to like? I'm a nice. guy. >> Yeah. I [laughter] don't understand that. at all. >> Yeah. I think she's just jealous of our. relationship. >> Oh, there's those kind of relationships. Guys and gals will do that. Will they. separate you from your friends? That's a. real [ __ ] problem. >> That's a That's a giant red flag right. there. >> That's not good. A person who doesn't. want you having good friends. That's.

crazy. >> Yeah, I know. It's. >> That's crazy. >> You know, I'm the luckiest guy in the. world because I work. >> for a network. with four, sometimes five guys. And if you can put five big egos. together and have everybody love and. care about one another, I'm gonna tell. you that's special. >> That is special. >> That that Fox show. is so special. It is. You've seen the. show, I assume. And we're just like it's.

like a locker room. >> Well, that's how it's supposed to be. >> So much fun. >> Yeah. And that's what people like. watching, too. >> I think so. 100%. >> People want to watch people that. actually are friends. >> Yeah. And we have giant fun. We had this. one. I mean, you you learn where you can. go with your friends. >> Yeah. >> All right. You know, you learn don't go. here, don't go there, which is fine. You. want you want to make sure that because. we're on live television. >> So, you want to you don't ever want to. embarrass anybody on live television. So, you learn where to go and you build.

that trust. >> and then that trust because you have the. trust, you you become you bond. You. become, hey, how you doing? Hey, man. I. was this week. How's your daughter's. great? Hey, how's your wife? I mean it's just you just get everybody. hugs everybody. Hey, how how was your. week? I mean it's I can't even begin the. day that that show is over for me and I. hope I die on set which is I've always. said if I could just die on set. Think. about it Joe. Think about it. [laughter]. If I die on set. Seriously, if I could.

just get a couple words out before I go. [laughter]. I I don't want to just. last. >> I really do think Dallas is going to win. the Super Bowl. If I could just get. something out. >> Yeah. >> You know, forever immortal. Right. >> Right. >> Ah, great. >> Yeah. >> So, I said that that's and that's the. way I feel. I It's I assume that's the. way you do this show. You can't wait to. do You should. This is awesome to get.

down and sit down with people from. different walks of life, basically. >> Yeah. politicians don't agree with you, religious people, whatever. And you just. sit there and you build this, you know, you get to know these people. You ask. all these questions or in my case, I'm. >> I'm just jumping around here. That's. what I [laughter]. Well, he hadn't asked me about this. >> I like a jump around. >> IS IT SIMON? >> JAMIE. >> JAMIE. I TOLD YOU. Just that's it. No, I. got it. Oh, no. I got it.

>> Young Jamie. Think of like Van Halen. Jamie's crying. Whoa. Whoa. Jamie, he's. remember that song. >> Look, I got it here. >> Jamie. >> Jamie. Young Jamie. >> Jamie, you married? >> Nope. >> Had a boy. >> Free man. >> Free. >> ladies. >> How old are you, Jamie? >> Old [snorts] enough. [laughter]. >> What' he say? >> Old enough. >> What's that? What's old enough? >> Old enough to know. >> So, how old are you, Jamie? >> 43. >> H. Okay. Got a girl? >> Not right now.

>> Okay. >> He's free right now. Ladies. Okay. >> Young Jamie's on the prow. >> Jamie, you on the prowl? >> Sure. >> All right. [laughter]. >> Where's your There's a lot of good. looking women in Austin, Texas. Jamie, >> there is. It's a good good place. >> You need some help. You need to put a. big word in for you, bub. >> Let's go out tonight. [laughter]. >> I guess we need to move on, right? >> Yeah, let's move on. But anyway, I'm so. in talking about that show, it just.

>> Well, having a show like that where a. bunch of people are really actually. friends is so huge for the viewer. >> It is. You want to listen. Do you want. to turn on this a show like a pregame? Come on. Pregame shows. I watch them and. I go, "Oh god.". >> Especially if IT'S DONE THIS. SHUT UP. >> RIGHT. >> Shut up. Announces pre guys doing game. Shut the up. >> Right. or when they're just sports guys. that really aren't actually passionate. about football. >> Yeah. >> And you hear them talking, you're like,

"What?". >> You know what they're talking about? Stats. Yeah. >> They get it all right here. >> Yeah. >> You know, and let me tell you something. >> I hate stats. >> I hate them. >> They're okay occasionally. >> If they should make a real point. >> Yeah. But if all you got is well 50. third quarter when the wind's blowing. out of the southwest if if it makes a. point in a big but otherwise. >> Right. Right. Right. >> I remember once Well anyway I was. talking about all the guys and I love.

telling this story. on Howie. Howie is is is my best friend. on the show without question. I mean we. are we are so different. He went to. Villanova. I went to an engineering. school at Louisiana Tech. I got a. college degree. Howie, I'm sorry. He. didn't graduate. [laughter]. I'm sorry, Howie. Don't hate me for his. big asses. What are you telling. everybody? I didn't gra Hey, I love you. I shouldn't have said Joe. I didn't say. that. Anyway, so we're doing this show.

and we had Jimmy Johnson on the show. Jimmy's great. Oh, Jimmy was awesome. So Jimmy's telling this story. All. right. And Jimmy's Jimmy tell and it's a. funny story. And we Jimmy starts. laughing. We all start laughing. Strahan. [laughter]. We're belly aching. It's funny. That's. funny. Jimmy Michael Strahan's next. The. director. We got it all worked out. It.

goes Jimmy Michael Terry Howie. Jeremy. How? Yeah. Howie. So Michael Strahan. He. adds to that story and it's even. funnier. OH MY GOD. STOP. STOP. RIGHT NOW. Now it's my turn. Now I'm I've got to I. got to I got to You're a comedian. You. know, you got to you got to match it at. least, right? Or do it one better. I'm. adding to what Michael said to what.

Jimmy said. And we're rolling. OH, GOD. STOP. OH, THIS IS FUN. This is. killing me. Oh, how he's turned. How he looks at the camera. The outside linebacker for Seattle, Bucky Buck Halter, sprained his ankle in. pregame warm-up, and he won't be. starting today for the Seahawks. Uh. Jasper uh Julian will be in his place.

out of uh Kansas State. What? And I'm and we go to commercial. break and I'm like three haha. one. So [laughter] I'm looking at Howie and. I'm staring at Howie. I'm just like. this. He's turn. He feels me. He turns. around. He says, "What?" I said,

"You can't help it, can you? Help what? You know what I'm talking about. No, I. don't. What are you talking about? And I. said, >> you're boring. [laughter]. [applause]. I wouldn't have said it if I didn't know. I could get away with it. And for the. rest of the show, he was hilarious. because he said, "Well, you know, being. boring, let me say." And it was funny. But yeah, it was. >> You can't do that unless there's trust,

right? You know, right? and Strahan, we. made fra the first day Strahan was on. the show, we gave him half a cake. He. said, "Why am I getting half a cake?". Well, he just got divorced, so you lost. the other half to her. >> So, >> that's hilarious. >> Well, if you can't joke around with. people, that's no fun. >> No, >> that's not a good relationship. >> Well, you better know you better know. who you're joking around with. >> Yeah, but it's like you can't if you. can't joke around with someone, like, what's the point? That's what people do. >> It's part of fun in life. You should be. able to take a joke. You should be able. to give a joke. should be able to have.

fun with each other. >> You just got to know when. You just got. to know when. >> Sure. >> I mean, friends, friends know when I. mean I, >> you know, I I talk to Howie all the. time. All the time. And his son Kyle. just got signed with CBS for their Today. Show, which is. >> Oh, that's awesome. >> Great. Great for him. And he's good. >> How did movies for a while, right? >> How he was voted the upand cominging. star. and he had these three young kids and he. says, "I don't want to raise my kids in. LA. Where's the best place I can raise. my kids and they found a school system?

Charlottesville, Virginia. He moved to. Virginia and took his kid there and quit. doing movies for him. >> Yeah, that's that's having your. priorities together. >> I remember reading something about him. talking about it like his experience. with movies like he didn't like it. >> Well, he didn't like Hollywood. He. didn't like the whole thing. And. >> he. he could have been. >> Didn't someone hit on him, too? >> Hit on him? >> I think some guys hit on him. >> A guy hit on him? >> Yeah. Is that true? >> Find out if that's true.

>> I don't know if I'd find that out. >> Yeah, maybe don't look that up. Forget. it. Don't look that up. [laughter]. >> But the point being. >> Simon. >> Jamie. >> Jamie. [laughter]. >> Simon. That's your new name, bro. >> I don't think Jamie. Don't look that up. cuz. >> Yeah, don't look it up. I think I might. have made that up or somebody might have. told it to me. It might not be true. But. the point is like he. >> he could have been. >> he did a bunch of big movies and he was. on his way to being a big action star. action star. >> for sure. I mean, of course, giant guy,

handsome, >> good looking guy, great body, >> perfect for an action star and then just. I like it when a guy realizes like this. is, you know, life is. >> I didn't want to raise my kids in LA. >> Yeah. Also, it's just like you don't. want you don't want it's what what you. think that life is, it's not. >> Listen, I also I've done five movies and. you've done I don't know how many. >> And look, I don't want to sit around. >> Yeah. >> all day long and go in and deliver one. line. Exactly. >> And here's the other thing.

I'm not ever going to be a leading man. I'm always going to be Terry Bradshaw. >> Right. Right. >> And that just sucks. [laughter]. >> Seriously. You always want to be Joe. Rogan. >> No. >> No. >> No. You would like to be given an. opportunity to really act. >> Well, if I actually wanted to act. Yes. >> Well, yeah. But. >> but I mean, some people they just don't. like to do it. And I think with te I. think with Howie, it was probably one of. those things where they probably offered. him a bunch of money. It looks good on. paper and then you start actually doing.

it and you realize like you're gonna be. away for five months filming this. >> He was away all year one year doing um. the firestorm. >> Mhm. >> And and he was filming in Vancouver. He. was flying in on Saturday from Vancouver. and leaving on a redeye to Vancouver and. filming all week. And I think. >> breaks you down. >> Three little kids. >> Yeah. It breaks you down. It's not good. for you. You don't like it. It doesn't. feel good. >> And I I applaud him for that. And he's. not only is he a great husband,

great dad. >> He's a great grandfather. I'm a terrible. grandfather. >> You got grandkids? >> No. Why you terrible? >> You know, I just I'm gone all the time. And uh. it's kind of like getting that job. Yeah. >> I got to have a job. I got to go suit. >> on if you have to travel. You were. saying that you give corporate speeches. Like what do you do? Like what are the. what are those about? >> Speeches. >> Like what what do you speak about? >> Well, I'm talking to a bank Wednesday.

morning. So, I'm preparing a bank speech. and then. >> what do you say to like what do you say. to a bank to a bunch of bankers? >> Uh I know what I know. >> Is [clears throat] it about leadership? Like what is it? So yeah, some of it's. about leadership. It's about it's bas. it's basically all the things that I. know Joe have to do with um ambition, dreams, drive, goals, failure,

overcoming failure, how to deal with. failure, how to rise, how to deal with. success, how to treat people. So it's a. little bit of motivational, a little bit. of psychology like you use earlier with. me. Um. >> I use psychology with you. But you know, you know when you did it, [laughter] you. know, right? Hey, Bernie. Bernie, he. knows. [laughter]. >> And so, so you do different ones for. different kind of corporations. >> Yeah. >> So, it's like kind of like a team.

building thing. They get together and. you want. >> Interesting. When did you start doing. that? >> I've been doing it uh 43 years. >> Really? >> Wow. >> I know. It's amazing, isn't it? >> That's crazy. And how did you get into. that? >> I gave a speech in Dest, Florida for. Fredo Lelay. [clears throat] and it was taped and. they paid me $5,000 and I was doing. speeches for $1,200 $800 $50 and they. offered me 5,000 ducks. Five 5,000.

bucks. Are you kidding me? I go down. there. It's for Fredo [clears throat]. Lace. I build this speech up and da da. da da da and they go give this speech. and the speech is really good and they. taped it and they sent me a VHS copy and. my my then wife put it on one day and. thought, "Oh my god, this is really good. and it's funny and so she found out. where where the bureaus were who booked. speakers." There were 10 really good.

ones. And she sent this tape. and a bio to 10 different. speaking associations. All right. We got. that through friends Harkin's company in. Atlanta, Georgia. They're the ones that. turned us on to it. So I come in. She. says, "I sent this off. I'm getting. calls now uh for speeches." I went, "What?" She said, "Yeah." She says, "We. got you want to do this, you want to do. that?" And all of them were for 5,000. 5,000? Are you [ __ ] me? Five? I'm.

getting five grand. Five? I'm like, oh. my god. Five grand? Really? I'm like, amazing. So, I start doing these. speeches for all these different bureaus. for five grand. >> Wow. So I go to Hawaii on vacation. and I'm in Hawaii and a company called. Washington Speakers Bureau, WSB, they. speak nothing. They book political. speakers and they had Joe Thyman.

and Jim Balvano. and maybe Lou Holtz that the three guys. they had. So they [clears throat] call. it the rainy day file and they got a big. box where they get all the you know. people send them to them all the time. Hey Joe, will you come on your show? Okay, put it over there. Put it over. there. Put it over there. And eventually. you go through, oh, we ought to have. them on. Right. That's kind of how it. went. So one day they're looking at. these tapes and they're going, "Oh, no. Spit spitting it." Then you get they. came across Terry Brataw. Hey,

hey, I I hear this guy's pretty good. Really? We put it on. They put it on. I. went, we want to sign him. So I'm in. Hawaii. I get a phone call. It's in the. morning. Hello. This is Bernie Swain. with Washington Speakers Bureau. problem. here with Harry Rhodess. Uh, we just. looked at your tape. We think you got. great possibilities. We'd love to. represent you exclusively. Da da da da. da. Please call us back. I thought, what? So, you know, it's.

Hawaii. It's what, 7 in the morning, so. it's what? It's 1:00 there time. I. called him and they said, "Um, look, we think you got great possibility and. we think he can we can book you and book. you a lot." And I said, "Well, I'm being. booked by 10 people right now. Why would. I want to go one one person?" Well, we're going to guarantee you 50. speeches. That's $7,500 a speech. Excuse me. Did you say $7500? [laughter].

I'm like, "Holy cow." So, they said, "We'll fly you from Hawaii to Washington. DC and we'd like to sit down with you. and go over a proposal." So, I did. They. did and I did. We sat down. Fell in love. with these guys. They were awesome. Gave. me a proposal. 50 speeches, 7,500. Add. that up. That's pretty good. That's. pretty good chunk of dough. So, I. signed. I'm with them exclusively now.

And they said, "We'll have you at 10,000. in six months." 10 thou 10 thou? You're. you're going to book me for 10 grand? Are you kidding me? That ain't That's. crazy. Sure enough. >> So, that's how you got into speeches. >> Yeah. >> So, when you do speeches like say of. like uh a tie like tire company calls. you, whatever it is, do you write it out. for that? >> Never. I never write a I I do not write. a word. I cannot write. I write here.

>> So, how do you plan out a speech? I I. write here. >> You just sit around and think about what. you're going to say. >> Exactly. And over time, what speakers do. because I asked Jay Luno this one time. Oh, you're doing all you're doing a. hundred standups. And he says, "Well, I'll take a theme for this year and I do. it all. I don't change anything under. the name where I'm going." And so I'm. Oh, so I don't have to change all of. this every time. And I learned that from. Jay Leno. take the same thing and then. put tire company in there.

>> and build it around that. And you know. what else I started doing? I started. reading a lot. Psychology, salesmanship, leadership. Um, you know, one of the guys I that. came to hear me speak here in Austin, McRaven. Admiral McRaven. Have you Have. you had him on yet? >> No. >> Oh my god. the guy that gives the 10. points of success. >> Yeah. Texas. Oh,

>> amazing. F the OB the uh um Osama bin. Laden. >> He that's his that's his raid. The whole. thing was him. He designed that whole. raid. Amazing human being. He's right here in. your backyard. You haven't had him on. You ought to be ashamed of yourself, Joe. >> There's only so many days in a week you. could do shows, you know. Can't have. everybody on. >> Okay, man. Do you do you do a show every. day? >> Four days a week. >> Okay. What's the day off? >> Usually Friday, but it it shifts. >> Yeah,

>> it shifts depending on, you know, what I. got going on. >> But anyway, so I I um. I build a show according to what they're. doing and through all my reading. Um, and I'm naturally I think I'm gifted. enough humor-wise that I've incorporated. a ton of humor and I mix the humor in. and I'm and I incorporate the audience. >> And so did you start doing all this. reading just to make your speeches.

better? >> I wanted to get smarter. >> That's. >> I wanted to get smarter. I wanted to be. Yeah, I wanted to be a little bit up on. things. I took psychology and marketing. and all that in college. But I. >> I thought, hey, if I'm going to make a. career out of this, get all the gather. all the knowledge you can gather. >> And so that's what I did. I started I. started reading all these self-help. books and and you know what, when you do. read all that, you find out it's pretty. basic. There is a common there is a.

common there's a foundation, a common. denominator that all of them have. And I. don't steal I don't steal material, but. I do steal I do program my speeches. I've gone on stage and forgot the name. OF THE COMPANY THAT. I did that once. I did that once. >> Um I went on stage in Vegas for a huge. 5,000 people and I went out there and. I'm, you know, I've got a style about.

me. It's a freelance. It's hey, you. know, I work the crowd. Got to get to. know him. I'm having a good time. Feeling good. And I haven't even started. my speech in the the the meeting. planner. The guy that own LET'S GIVE IT. UP. GIVE IT UP. TERRY BRADSHAW. TERRY. THANK YOU, TERRY. Thank you so much. Terry Bradshaw. They escort me off. I 10. minutes. 10 minutes. So there's three. there. >> What happened? Why did they escort you. off? >> He He thought I didn't He thought I.

didn't know what I was doing, I guess. But that he did obviously didn't look at. my tapes and but I was just I was just. having fun with the crowd before I you. know I work my Sometimes I work. sometimes I'll go right into it. >> Uhhuh. >> Sometimes I won't sometimes I'll Hey, you know I'm I mess with them, right? >> I'm just having fun. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He out of there. >> Wow. >> Oh. And very. >> What kind of company was that? >> Um someone that could afford to pay me.

and not have me give a speech. Yeah, bad. >> Well, some people are very impatient, you know, >> bad. It was bad. I asked my wife in the. car going to the airport, you know, when. you said, "What's wrong?" And I said, "What' I do? Is something wrong?" She. said, "You did nothing wrong. This guy. just doesn't know your style.". >> Oh, so they just hired you based on name. alone and didn't know what they were. getting. >> Excuse me. >> I would imagine that for. >> I would think I would think name alone. has a lot to do with all my. >> Oh, 100%. But that's what I was going to. say. And if you win four Super Bowls, you know pressure. You know up and down.

You know how to deal with you get in a. huddle. How do you manage a huddle? How. do you do this? How do you call plays? And I make fun of all these guys that. have placards on their forearms. There. go number four. Number four where I had. to go. >> second and eight. Okay, look. Second and. eight. Here we Let's go. Let's go. and No, no, no. Wait a minute. Wait a. minute. Let's No, no, I don't want to. run that. Let's go this and do this. I. totally ran the I totally ran the.

huddle. The whole thing. What do y'all. say? Can we do that? No, we can't. What. do you want to do that? I ran the. huddle. I was smart enough as the. chairman of the board in the huddle to. say, "I don't have all the answers. I I. thought I did. We're not doing very well. here. I want to try this play, but what. do y'all think?" And I got input. Oh, is. there anything better than input? Is. there anything better than the people.

that are do as as a as a sales team? You. got a sales manager and sales teams come. back said, "No, no, no, no, no, no. This. is not a good this isn't working. They. don't like this data." And you change. it. Smart people make adjustments in the. middle of chaos, >> right? >> Competition. And that's how that's how I. ran I ran the the huddle. >> The huddle. and speaking. Speaking is. I know where I'm going when I walk on.

stage. And once I get on stage, I can tell. within five minutes I'm going to change. my direction. And I can I've been doing it 40ome. years, right? I got, you know, eight. hours of material, not to mention all. the new material I'm getting every week. So I can change it. >> And I got to tell you, you're standup. comedian. Is there anything better than. getting on stage and deliver a. performance and they are just laughing.

to every just rolling just rolling just. rolling and you walk off and they're. screaming Joe Joe and you're like God. man I nailed it tonight and then you. walk off or going out and go hey did you. hear this did the other day what about. and everything falls flat and when you. leave [applause]. and you go off stage and you're m are. You're not miserable. >> Miserable. >> Miserable. >> Sure. >> You don't want to be miserable. >> No. >> You did everything you could to make. them enjoyable. I'm entertaining them.

>> I I want this to be a great experience. for them. And when you fail, it's. devastating. It's devastating. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's uh hard to pay you. >> What do you think? >> They pay you to be They pay you to be. entertaining. >> They can hang. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Poor Jamie. >> Poor Oh, Jamie. Sorry, Jay. I'm sorry, man. >> Yeah. Yeah, I mean I would imagine that. it's a completely different thing, but. but having a guy like you. >> go and talk to a corporation has got to. be very fun for them,

>> you know, because you know, you're a guy. who's won the Super Bowl. You guys like. >> My speeches my speeches are. Do you know who Joel Holstein is? >> I know the name. >> He's the He's the preacher and. >> Joel Olstein. >> Oh, what did I say? Holstein like the. cow. You're right. Olstein, right? Oh, he doesn't go to. church. He doesn't know it's that guy. >> He's a feel good guy. >> He does the giant. >> Yeah. It's all preacher.

>> God, look at the mountain. You see the. mountain climb mountain. One of those. good guys. You know, it's a good guy. And people need that in their life. >> Uhhuh. >> I like to say it's it's there's another. mountain up there. But if you continue. down the path you're going and I want I. want I want my hand spanked. You know, I. don't need it spanked. I know it should. be spanked, but I want him to spank. It's fine with me speaking. When I go out to speak, I'm a feel good. I I want I'm a feel-good guy, you know,

unless they say to me, "Here's where. we're struggling. Can we need you to add. this, did this, and this.". >> Oh, so sometimes they'll give you a. direction like they'd like. >> They always give you a direction. >> Okay. So, they have like a purpose for. why. >> you always know where you're going. You. always know what your audience is. >> Yeah. Well, it sounds like you really. enjoy it, but that's a lot. So, is that. what you're doing when you're doing 250. dates a year? You doing a lot of those? >> Oh, I do. Yeah. A lot. Tuesday, Wednesday of this week, then I'll get.

off. I do 30 a year, which is plenty. >> That's a lot. Yeah. >> Yeah. That's a lot. >> When you're getting five million a. speech, I mean, you got to think about. it. >> What do you think, Buck? [laughter]. Oh, Buck's over there. He's like, I'll. be so glad when this boy is off. >> [laughter]. >> Oh, he likes you, >> Terry. Thank you very much for being. here, man. This was a lot of fun. I. really enjoyed it. It was great to talk. to you. >> Me, too. >> I'm uh Thank you. >> Thanks, Joe. Been watching you. Enjoy. You're smart.

>> Thank you. >> You're insightful. You do your homework. I helped you today, though. >> You did. You helped me a lot. Yeah. >> That doing what you do is not easy. >> I found out about limousine cattle. >> Yeah. >> You taught me some things. >> I know. I know. You know how to fix a. pearlap uterus? What's that? >> Show him, Jamie. >> I'd rather not. >> I'd rather not. >> Um, so tell everybody how they buy this. whiskey. Is it everywhere? Can you get. Is there. >> We're in 11 states right now. You can go.

Terry Bradshaw um bourbon.com. You'll find out where we are in Texas. >> Terry Bradshaw bourbon.com. There it is. Look at that. >> There it is. That's not a good picture. I should have had Oh, look at the cigar, Joe. Solid picture. Yeah. Cigar. >> That's an old man. You're 58. >> Yeah. And look at that. You got a. serious whiskey sifter there. What are. those things called? >> Snifter. >> Yeah. Those are good things. >> That's like if you're a serious taster, >> you know. It It is the the thing about.

Now people think, "Boy, he's making a. killing off that whiskey." I'm not I may. make $6,000 this year. Six. But we're. building the we're building it. It's. slow. Whiskey is bourbon is slow, man. It's hard to age. You go down, you go. down that aisle, 5,000. >> and we've won all these awards. >> All the We beat them all. >> That's awesome. >> Beat them all. >> Congratulations. >> Thank you. I'm so proud of that. And the. thing about the juice is mine. I created.

this juice. >> It has to be something that you love. doing. Yeah. That's not something you. >> You know what? It it it could be it. could be any other product. I think it's. just the fact that I get to go out and. sell it. I like. >> Well, it's an aged product. It's a. different like if you were selling vodka. or tequila, something you could just. make real quick. >> No, this is. >> this is it's a different thing. Aged. whiskey is a very different. >> It took me a year and a half to get the. blend right. >> The blend the juice. >> Took me a year and a half before I. agreed to put it in a bottle. Then when.

I put it in a bottle, I wanted this is. old gunm smoke. Set it on the count. I. wanted a gunm smoke bottle. And this is. the original label. And that's gunpowder. gunpowder gray. And uh the Super Bowl. stuff is put on there by, you know, the. bottling company, which I didn't really. I I that wasn't part of it. You know, Joe, you ever got to a point in your. life when you go, can I not sell. something that's really good without.

having to be me, >> right? I mean, well, it would have been. like that if it hadn't been you, Terry, right? >> Can it can it not be just because it's. good? >> You certainly could do that. >> Yeah. Yeah. my stud horses. I have the. best stud horses in America, you know, best. And they're breeding world. champions and I'm so proud of that. And. the business is good, you know, but I. don't have to sell them. They're selling. there. We have offspring that sell. >> But this is Bradshaw whiskey. >> This is this I wouldn't want my dad to.

see it, [laughter] but. there it is. >> There it is. >> There it is. All right. But thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you so much. I've been a huge fan. for many years. >> and and me and me. >> Thanks. We didn't get into politics, which I'm very thankful for. >> I'm glad too. >> Yeah, me too. I bet you are. I know I. am. >> Enough. >> enough. >> enough of that in this world. Thank you, Terry. That was fun. All right. Bye, everybody. [music].