Joe Rogan Experience #2492 - Ari Shaffir

Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. >> The Joe Rogan Experience. >> TRAIN BY DAY, JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY. NIGHT. ALL DAY. >> YOU KNOW what you are on my phone? >> What? >> Ari the [music] wanderer. >> [laughter]. >> That's a new phone number. That's not bad. >> That's a new number. Cuz that's what you. are. I was I was telling you last night. that I I thought it was in Mexico City. where we had a report that you were in. an Oasis concert in Mexico City and you. said no, it was in Rio.

>> It's São Paulo. >> Oh, São Paulo. Okay. So, it was in. Brazil. So, we no one knew where you. were. You were gone for how many months? Six? >> Seven. >> Jesus Christ. >> Yeah. >> How many times have you done that now? >> I guess three. Although, when I went to. Ecuador, I was very much in touch with. everybody. >> Mhm. >> So, it was like. >> That was a halfway. >> That was a halfway. >> But you were there. You were kind of. checked out, but you were there. >> months, but I was I was in touch. I. still had numbers. I was still like. doing like podcast and stuff and.

>> Were you doing it remotely? >> Doing it remotely, yeah. I would do one. with uh Big Jay and Soda. We did a 21. Jump Street breakdown podcast. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. Yeah. We were so bored during the. pandemic. We're like, let's find a show. and just let's get together. >> And watch 21 Jump Street. >> First we chose Sex and the City and then. found out gay [ __ ] Ian already had a. Sex and the City podcast. >> Um Ian Fidance? >> Yeah. >> Did he really? >> Dude, that guy blows dudes. Obviously, he loves Sex and the City. >> Well, I guess so.

>> So, we're like we don't want to step on. his toes. Like, let's pick another. >> He seems like he's straight sometimes. >> He does. >> It's weird. >> Mhm. >> Like, is he only gay? >> No. No. He [ __ ]. He [ __ ] better than we ever did. For women. >> Women? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> He gets it. >> So, and then but then he went to guys? >> He's a new breed. He's a new breed of. just like. >> When did he go to guys? Is that a new. thing? >> I think he battled with it for a while. >> Oh, okay. So, he was [ __ ] girls but. hating them. God, I wish he were gay. >> [laughter]. >> Like that kind of a deal? >> Yeah. Yeah, I guess. Then he went to.

glory holes and he was saying he wasn't. gay. I'm like, "Bro, that's. one of the biggest signs of a gay.". >> So, you just stick your whole your dick. in the hole or you suck the dick that. comes out of the hole? Like, was he the. glory giver or the glory taker? >> You're asking me questions I don't know. I I always assumed in my head it was he. was sucking dudes off, but but I'm I'm. actually not sure. >> Yeah, interesting, right? >> It's interesting. >> Yeah, because if if the dick comes. through the hole, it feel like you ever. want to suck a dick but I don't want to. look a guy in the eyes. I just want to. know what it's like. See if I'm good at.

it. >> Yeah, I don't want to be embarrassed in. front of anybody. They're going to. recognize me later. I just want to work on my technique. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, I just want to find out if I'm. right. >> Yeah. I need more research. Not enough data. points. >> Yeah, because so so you didn't even ask. him which side of the glory hole he was. on? >> I think I was so overwhelmed by this. heterosexual dude who was telling me he. goes to glory holes. >> And so then he was heterosexual. This is. back in the day. >> We did a podcast, my old podcast, on the.

way down to like somewhere. >> This is Skeptic Tank? >> Yeah. And and he was telling me that, but he's. telling me he's not gay. I was like, "How do I say that? Wait." And I was. like, "Buddy, I think you are gay.". He goes, "W- why?" I'm like, "The glory. hole stuff. It's a big sign.". He goes, "Huh, do you think?" I was [laughter] like, >> Do you think? >> I was like, >> But you didn't even That's the crazy. thing is you didn't even ask whether he. sucks or gets sucked. >> I was lost in it. You're right. As an. interviewer, I didn't do my job that.

day. Obviously, that's a major question. It's a one-in-two chance. >> Yeah, right? How do you not know? >> How do I Yeah. >> It's like very important to know. >> [laughter]. >> It is cuz there is a percentage chance. it might be a chick blowing you. There's. no percentage chance that this dick. chick blowing you is a vagina. There's. >> Zero percent chance. It's 100% a guy or. a guy pretending to be a chick. >> I bet there's a ton of those dudes who. have wives, you know, who live in that. world like I thought I always thought it. was a woman. Like shut up. >> Yeah, right. >> Shut up. >> Yeah.

Plausible deniability. >> Plausible deniability. >> Yeah. So then he just decided to just go. straight gay? >> No, he's every He does everything. >> Oh, now he's bisexual. >> Okay. >> Yeah, so we did the 21 Jump Street. podcast. And uh and I would do it sometimes. I'd. get on and they're like, "Are you. drinking a coconut with a palm tree. behind you?" Out of a coconut. I was. like, "Oh, it's just a Tuesday, guys. What's going on?". I really milk it. >> Cuz you're in Ecuador. >> Cuz I was in Ecuador. Just having a good. time. >> What is like that gay tea drink?

>> Mate? Sure sure about. >> So you just got into this It's literally. a jar of hay. And you you. >> pour hot water and there's so much hay. in there. >> It's so [snorts] much. It tastes You. tried it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, it tastes like just kind of ass. Yeah, just hay. >> I don't understand. >> It's like a ritual. It's all the gauchos. in Argentina and then spread to Chile. and southern. >> And so it's just a bunch of leaves that. are in it. >> tree. >> Yerba mate, right? >> Yeah, but that that drink is like.

different. >> I've had that stuff. >> I think it's different. >> Really? >> Yeah, I think it's as about as much as. like what Willie Nelson's like drink is. actually weed. >> Oh, Willie Nelson's drink is weed. >> Really? >> Oh, yeah. >> I take it back then. >> Oh, yeah. I don't know what the legality. of that is and I don't want to throw. anybody under the bus, but Ron White. brought a bunch of it. >> You got to try that stuff. >> and it's very legit. Yeah. It is It's all dose dependent. I think.

one glass is like 5 mg or one shot is. like 5 mg. But if you drink a glass of. that [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, you're going to. >> for it. >> You're going to go into that weird. dimension. >> [laughter]. >> You know that weird dimension where. you're like, "I think this is Earth, but. it doesn't seem like Earth anymore. >> Thumbs up. >> It's like a facsimile of Earth. >> Try to look at people like, you see what. I'm saying? >> Yeah. I remember one time, um, I was. doing Fear Factor and we were in San. Francisco and, uh, back This is the unregulated edibles.

days. You know, cuz this is before. marijuana was legal, but you could get a. prescription. >> Do your joke. Can I do your joke? >> Which one? >> The X. >> Oh, yeah. >> I'll do it. You'll be embarrassed. >> Yeah, cuz this is early days. And by the. way, it was just like, there's banana. bread uh, going around now. It's killing. people. It's great. Not killing people, but like destroying people. >> Yeah. >> It goes, they came in these doses, 1X, 2X, or 3X. The problem is X didn't equal. any number. >> Yeah. >> So, it [laughter] was just some guy. mixing up his bathtub full of [ __ ].

whatever, like weed-infused cookie. dough, and deciding what's X to him. That's not a mathematical equation. >> had no number value. >> 1 times this. What's this? Right? >> Yeah. Well, there was I had the joke, too, about the gummy bear. The guy who. literally said that to me. I go, "How. much should I take?" He goes, "Just a. leg.". >> Those gummies are mild. >> I go, "Just the leg?". >> [laughter]. >> I go, "Why the [ __ ] are you selling. whole bears if I should only eat a leg?". Cuz it's only that big. Like, no one's. going to eat just the leg.

>> It's a crazy dosage. A half a cookie is. the right That's not A cookie is a dose. >> So, back in these days we were doing. Fear Factor and we were doing it It was, uh, we were doing it off of a aircraft. carrier in the Bay Area. And so, we had. to [snorts] take the You know that one. train, I forget what it is. Is it the. BART that goes under the water? That. goes under the bay between Oakland and. San Francisco. >> The BART, yeah. >> BART, whatever it is. >> No, I call it the BART just to [ __ ] with. them. >> Um, so. I I took this edible and it was an.

unregulated edible, so I have no idea. and it was way too strong. And I was. >> [laughter]. >> I was like, "Why do my ears feel weird?". And they're like, "Because you're under. the ocean. [laughter] And I was like, no. It was like the longest 20 minutes of my. life waiting to pop out on the other. side where I was like, we're under this. How long has this [ __ ] subway been. under the ocean? Like, how long has this. existed? Like, what are the odds this. thing is still good? Is anybody out. there diving, checking on the tube,

making sure there's no holes in it? >> [laughter]. >> You know, this [ __ ]. >> doing all the research in your head. >> And it was like I I felt like I was. talking to people, but what I was seeing. was a two-dimensional. like you know like those stand-ins like. when you go to the movie and it's like, you know, a person standing there like. thumbs up and it's like just a. two-dimensional cardboard cutout. That's. what everybody looked like to me. It was. like a two-dimensional cardboard cutout, but occasionally I'd see their soul. peaking around their shoulder, [laughter] looking at me. It was.

so heavy. I don't know what the number. was, how many X's. >> kind of high? >> [laughter]. >> I don't get that kind of high or drunk. anymore. >> Well, that kind of high is really fun. after it's over. After it's over. >> you look back. >> When it's happening, it's terrifying. >> Ah, those were the best. >> I remember a guy I did jiu-jitsu with. He made pills. He made THC pills cuz he. was like one of those all-day guys. He. was just high constantly all the time. >> Dab. >> And so yeah, the dab guys. But this is.

pre-dabs. And so this guy made pills, THC pills. I I I go, how many should you. take? And he And he goes, you should. probably start off with one, but I take. two. So I took two cuz I'm an [ __ ]. And I wound up having this conversation. with this guy. and he was weirding me out. It was at a. jiu-jitsu tournament. I was like, why is. this guy so weird? Turns out the dude. eventually got arrested for rape. And not just arrested for rape, but he. was on the run. >> Whoa.

>> And he was on the run and couldn't stop. doing jiu-jitsu. And the way they caught. him was he went to like Seattle or. somewhere like cuz this was in. California. >> up for classes. >> And he was just rolling but he was. killing everybody and everyone was like, "Who is this [ __ ] guy? Like why is. this guy so good?" And then eventually. they realized it was him and they go, "Oh my god, this guy's wanted for rape.". >> Wow. >> He was a crazy person and when I was. like super high on these pills I could. see all the crazy in his eyes. Like it's. like he didn't say anything crazy.

>> Dude, you can when you're on drugs you. can see through people. >> Yes. You can. You can. You can see their. souls. >> It's It's It's interesting. >> It is interesting. >> can see it. It's not one of those where. I'm like, "No, it's just the drug [ __ ]. with me." You can tell. >> And so this was like. >> or sad. >> or so later he gets arrested and winds. up fleeing. I think he maybe was out on. bail or he was wanted and fled and went. to the Pacific Northwest. But I remember. when I heard the story I was like, "Oh, that makes sense." Cuz he had the. weirdest energy. Just like this dark.

energy. Like creepy dark energy. >> Sometimes if you're on like a. psychedelic. and then someone's not. on with you, you know, but they're. around you you're like, "Hey, you got to. go. You're freaking me out." Like. >> [laughter]. >> I I don't know. Your energy's not of. this. It's I don't know if you're. looking at me but like you got to take. off. >> Yeah, you you see like motivations. You see You see. how they. >> clearly. >> It's weird. But it's not reliable. It's.

not like like I'm about to go into a a. meeting with this defendant. I need to. know if he's actually innocent or guilty. so I'm going to take 5 g of mushrooms. >> [laughter]. >> Just stare through his soul. Me and Big Jay were leaving a blues fest. in Ottawa once. We're leaving It's like. a city festival but then you wander into. the what used to be the safest city in. Canada. So you're all [ __ ] up. It's. great. And as you're leaving you just see who's. on what drug. Like you just can tell like mushrooms, acid, weed, drunk.

>> Molly. >> Molly. Yeah, you just see it all. You. just see through everybody. They're just. sitting there talking. >> Yeah, I don't. >> [snorts]. >> I wonder what's going to happen now that. this thing happened at the lighthouse. >> of all, I thought you know, I'm not on. the news, so I'm hearing stuff little by. little about everything. >> Yeah. >> I thought it was just Ibogaine, which is. like great. Lots of people need that. And then and then I mean, Ed Clay has. been telling me about that for. so long. >> Well, Ed Clay I talked about him on the. podcast. He's he's one of the ways that.

I found out about it. >> Yeah. In Nashville? >> Yeah, yeah, Nashville. >> he would tell you he's like, "You should. get on it. It helps with addiction." I'm. like, "I'm loving what I'm doing right. now. I don't I don't want to get off. this.". >> [ __ ] up my high. >> But like I'm like, "This makes sense.". And then I find great, you got that. And. then I find out it's also. I mean, the best hippie flip. You You. got that MDMA and boomers and shrooms. >> And psilocybin. Yeah. Well, it's because. MDMA and psilocybin MAPS was already. doing MDMA studies with uh veterans. So,

for people that, you know, watched a. bunch of people get blown up and lost. their friends and come back MDMA was one. of the best therapies. >> Yeah. >> for helping them overcome PTSD. So, MAPS. had already pushed that through and. Johns Hopkins had already done these. studies with psilocybin. So, they. already pushed these things and they. were already on the way to getting. approval through the FDA, but the. problem was nobody wants to stick their. neck out and sign off on it. >> with with politics. If you're running We. talked about this. If you're running for. an office and the opponent can say he.

wants drugs legalized, then you're. [ __ ] So, it's like it really binds. your hands. >> Right. Well, that's funny because that's. kind of what Dan Patrick did in Texas. about marijuana. But to his credit, Dan. Patrick met with Rick Perry and Brian. Hubbard, the guys that passed this Texas. Ibogaine initiative, and they convinced him of what this. stuff actually is. And so, they've. donated So, he's allocated, rather, $100. million dollars Texas for the Ibogaine. initiative. Which is amazing.

>> When I was a kid. >> So he but but that's a a sign of a an. intelligent man. Like this Dan Patrick. guy had this stance on weed. There's. like weed's bad, ruined everything. And. then they come to him and he's like, "I. am staunchly opposed this." And he sits. they sit down with him. He explains, Brian Hubbard explains, and he's very. eloquent. Explained what Ibogaine does. It's not recreational at all. And he. hears it and he hears how much it it'll. help, particularly veterans who come. back they're addicted to opiates and. they're all [ __ ] up. And even CTE, even like brain injuries from getting. blown up. It's neuro regenerative.

somehow. It's a crazy plant. And so he. he to his credit, he signed off. And they allocated a hundred million. dollars for the Texas Ibogaine. initiative. Which is amazing. >> Wow. >> But it's like all these people have. these ideas in their head, but it's all. because of Nixon. All of it goes back to. Nixon. >> up with trying this is evil, this is. you'll get stuck that way kind of stuff. where it's like. >> some people do. >> Yeah. >> This is what's important about these. studies. Yes. This is what's important. about these studies. Like I think this.

is important about weed, too. You know, I'm very adamant that it's not for. everybody. I think there's a lot of. things. >> Some of it's so strong. And some people. are already on the way to schizo. They're already on the way. There's. schizophrenia in their family. There's. like they just that's not a good thing. for them. >> Well, what's making a comeback luckily. is like. Mexican weed is like the the 12 12%. THC where it's like let's just get the I. just want to get high, dude. >> trying to bury myself in this is movie. again. >> don't want to go to Pluto.

>> Just [laughter] is there anything is. there a what's the shot? >> I want to be in the clouds right above. the city. That's it. >> What's the shot in a beer. [clears throat] of weed? I want that. >> it. Right. Right. I don't want to. [ __ ] dab. I see these dabbers. >> Oh, these I asked for medicine at a. dispensary once and they're like, "What. are you what?". >> What's the what [laughter] is that? >> Medicine? Yeah. >> Yeah. They're all so hardcore. >> I I remember in the early days it was. like Zen Dispensary, one of the early. ones and I was like just getting into. it. Atari hooked me up, remember that. guy? With like weed and it was like it.

was like okay, so now I'm into it and I. went to Zen and I was like hey listen, I. I like to smoke cigarettes while I. write. I'm off cigarettes now but it's a. habit. So I need something but if I. smoke a joint, I'm done writing. >> Right. >> And that's what he said, "Oh, you want. Mexican weed. We can do that for you.". >> Uh just something calm. This is. something mild. This is mild. >> Yeah. It's like going to a powerlifting. gym and saying, "Do you guys have yoga. classes?". >> [laughter]. >> It just feels so wrong to say. >> Get the [ __ ] out of here. Get the [ __ ]. out OF HERE. >> I'M ONLY HERE TO GET JACKED.

>> [laughter]. >> YEAH. >> They did that in Ecuador. There was a. city I was in when I did ayahuasca and. it was a guy from the tourism board and. he said, "What's going to There's three. cities that are like on the border to. the Amazon.". >> Mhm. >> And and you know, you could go in from. any one of them. And they go, "What's. going to separate our city from all. these other Amazonian cities?". And they go, "Let's be the ayahuasca. city.". >> Ooh. >> And everyone else on the tourism board. said, "No. We are not getting. a bunch of [ __ ] hippie backpackers in. here to be drug addicts in our town.

Like that's not what we're looking for. at all here.". >> This thing sucks. >> Yeah, it did. You just filled it up. >> I'm not. >> There's a lever on it, too. I don't. know. Uh and he goes, "Okay, fair." But he. goes, "Can I take you on an ayahuasca. trip?" To each member. Each member was. like, you know, they were half. indigenous. They're like, "Sure.". >> Right. >> And then one by one, they all go, "Oh, this isn't an addictive thing.". >> Right. >> So I had it the wrong idea in my head of. what this was. You come once, you don't. come back for a year. >> Yeah, everybody had that thing from the. Nixon administration. >> Mhm. >> It's the Controlled Substances Act of.

1970 and that thing that's it's really. nuts but for 56 years we've been living. underneath that. >> It just it becomes a given. >> Uh-huh. Yeah. >> You don't think to re-evaluate any. knowledge that's in there already. >> I know and it's like so many people just. a a microdose of shrooms, it'll change. your [ __ ] life. It It would It would. help so many people. There's so many. people that are stressed out for no. [ __ ] reason. >> does give you such a reset. >> 100%. >> too. I know that's That's why I was. talking to you. The MDMA math people. were always like, "Please start calling.

it MDMA. When you call it Molly, it. becomes a party drug." I'm like, "Well, I do it at parties." So, >> [laughter]. >> that's what it is for me. >> The problem with what they're saying by. saying that is like, no, because it is a. party drug, too. >> It is. It's also just like. >> What are we going to call whiskey? We're. going to call it you know, alcohol by. volume? Are you going to have a. technical term for what whiskey is? [ __ ]. off. It's whiskey. >> You know what I mean? Like, that's why. people like it. >> Like, you call it that if you want. >> Yeah, you do whatever you want. I'm. going to call it Molly. [ __ ].

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have a season for it and you can go. through the meadows or any of these. fields and just like pick mushrooms, you. know? But if it's. on your shoe, it's fine. And if it comes. off your shoe, then it's illegal. >> Oh, that's hilarious. >> It But it's just like growing there. >> You know where Duncan used to live in. Asheville? They started giving the cows. like a certain type of feed that had. anti-fungal properties to it. >> What? >> So that they wouldn't grow So who knows. what it did to the cow's gut and the. >> [clears throat]. >> you know, about ruined the cows just because so.

many kids were picking mushrooms off of. the cow [ __ ] They We got to put a stop. to this. >> In Thailand, it's the elephant [ __ ] and. they and the guys who ran the elephant. like abusive centers, whatever, so you. could ride them and make them play. harmonica. Stuff Stuff that's natural in. the wild. Oh no. Oh no, guys. Elephants. love painting you a picture. >> We we rode them when we were in. Thailand. >> [laughter]. >> Did I ride back my second time and they. were all everyone in the hostel was. doing that and then I was like, "No, I. already did it." And they go, "Humane or. non-humane?" I'm like, "Oh, definitely.

the humane one." They're like, "Did you. ride them? That's inhumane." I'm like, "Oh, yeah, inhumane then.". >> Well, the elephants wanted you to ride. them. They don't mind. Like cuz you. weigh nothing and you. >> Weigh nothing. >> them first and you make you give them an. offering, right? So you first of all, you wash them and you feed them. So you. feed them like you give them sugarcane. and you you have to develop a. relationship with the elephant before. you ride it. Like these people were all. They were all free-range elephants. They're all rescue elephants. So the. elephants would come in out of the.

jungle. Like they weren't in cages. >> Oh, really? >> Oh, yeah. It was wild. >> And they let you. >> Yeah. >> Get a saddle on them? >> Uh-huh. Well, you don't It's barely a. saddle. You just kind of climb onto them. and there's like a thing that you hold. onto. And they're totally cool with it. And then at the end, you go to this like. pond and you wash them. >> Mhm. >> And so it's like they could kill you. anytime they want to, you know? So it's. like it's a relationship and it's not. they're not prisoners and they're not. abused at all. The people that are. running this the place that we I went. to. But even then, I did a video with it.

and I said, you know, I you could ride. them. I go I rode them. I don't. recommend it. I don't think you should. do it. I would never do it again. I. would never ride them again cuz I just. it just feels [ __ ] up. I would rather. just feed them and pet them and say, "You're nice. >> But also. >> go through the jungle with you. >> Yeah, but also like you rode them. >> I did. >> So like if you if you hadn't rode them, you'd be like, "I've never ridden an. elephant.". >> I wouldn't have done it at all if my. family didn't want to do it. They wanted. to do it. So I said, "Okay, let's go.". And they enjoyed it. It was a good. experience, you know, the kids are.

they're little and we're taking them to. Thailand and yeah. It's it's wild. >> I wonder sometimes if these kids I was. talking to Tommy about it. like if they'll know later in life. how cool their experience was. Like. it'll be till like they're 35 or 40. They'll be like, "Oh, I had a great. child I didn't even understand all the. cool things I did.". >> Yeah, I think my kids are pretty aware. of it. Um but. >> Anyway, they had these these hippies. would go over the encamp and pick out. mushrooms from elephant patties. >> Oh.

>> And then eventually the people the. herders were like, "Why do these [ __ ]. dreadlock people keep coming in. at night and like sniffing around our. shit?" And then they realized what it. was and they go, "Oh, no, no, no, we'll. sell this.". >> Oh, they sell it. Is it illegal in. Thailand? Like what is the legality of. mushrooms? >> Now, I don't know cuz I think they just. legalized weed in Thailand. >> Did they really? >> Yeah, but it back back then when it was. illegal. there were bars that sold you joints and. those are the bars that paid the cops. And so for all intents and purposes, you're fine. >> Bro, I would not [ __ ] around with drugs.

in another country. >> Lame. >> Yeah, me. That's me. Super lame. >> [laughter]. >> I mean, talk to Brittney Griner. How'd. that work out? >> [sighs]. >> Not good. Do you think when she was in. jail, the the guards would [ __ ] with her. and show her videos of her missing? Like, "How come you miss? How come you. miss this shot? >> [laughter]. >> For turning into breakdowns. >> You eat too much [ __ ] You smoke too. much weed? You miss this shot? >> [laughter]. >> She was in jail for a long [ __ ] time. >> for a while. >> I think she was in jail for like Wasn't.

it like 6 months or something like that? >> I knew someone who worked at the um. the agency she was at. The sports management agency. >> Mhm. >> Every day they started with 15 minutes. of like, "Hey, before we get into anyone. else's business, how are we getting her. out?". >> 10 months. Almost a [ __ ] year in jail in Russia. That's crazy. For a big country. >> a penal colony. That was a fun one because they just. told America, like, "Hey guys, keep. quiet. We can get her out. She's a. nothing asset. Just everyone be quiet.".

And the the liberal. angry, you know, housewives are like, "No, I want to say something." And they. all just kept talking and eventually. like Russia's like, "Oh, is this an. important one?". >> Oh, really? >> keep her in. >> Is that what happened? >> Yeah, I think so. I think it was Biden. was like, "Just shut up. We'll get her. out. Just shut up." And they made it. into a bigger thing. >> So that they could get the merchant of. death released. >> We are the worst at hand Americans are. so bad at at handling things they don't. know how to handle. They just rush in. full bore going, "I know how to fix it.". With no knowledge of it. >> Well, it's also once a story gets out in.

any form, influencers cannot help talk. about it. >> it. >> It's their currency. There's no way. they're not going to talk about it. >> Same as all the late night guys. They. knew after Trump won that like talking. about him helps him. Before we said. we're trying to take him down, but now. we've seen the research. We know it's. helping him. I'm still going to do it. cuz it's my money. >> Yeah. They can't help it. They can't. help it. Yeah. I mean, that's like CNN's most of their. ratings were talking [ __ ] about Trump. Like every time he did something.

outrageous, they would they would talk. [ __ ] about him and they would have him. on and it just made him more and more. popular. Because I don't think they. understood how much America's. Americans despise them. You know, they thought, "We're CNN. We. are the news. We're CNN." And then. because the fact that Trump was opposed. to them and they were they just kept. showing him. They're like, "Oh, he must. be good cuz you guys suck.". >> Right. You ever hear the theory that uh. terrorism and the US are symbiotic?

>> What's the theory? How's it work? >> Terrorism can't exist without the US. dominating their countries. >> Oh, yeah, that makes sense. >> And and the US. they can't keep funneling money to. weapons without terrorists. >> Well, US and Israel. I mean, that's the. thing. >> Sure, sure, sure, but it's like. >> Hamas and and uh Netanyahu, he famously. said. they were funding Hamas. >> them. >> We We We We When we fund Hamas, we can. control the height of the flame. >> For 9/11, like it's it popped off a. little high, but there was like it's we.

need something to be like, "Hey, we're. all against that." And then that those. countries be like, "Look, they're all. against us." So, they just like they. need each other to keep growing. >> Well, it makes sense and also you need. an enemy in order to get higher military. contracts, higher budgets. I mean, if. you don't have terrorism, how can you. justify a trillion-dollar military fund? >> you need to like say, "Hey, they're a. real threat." Like, "That's a 30-person. group.". >> Yeah. >> They're not coming for us, but like we. got to take them down. Look at the. training they're doing. >> You ever seen Shane's bit?

>> [laughter]. >> On monkey bars. They're on monkey bars. doing the training. >> I love that bit. >> Yeah. >> I love that bit about how bad they are. at jumping jacks. >> [laughter]. >> It's It's what you fat people do to get. in shape in The Biggest Loser. >> Yeah. And they're stuck over there. Like, "Shut up.". >> Yeah. >> They're not going over there. It's And then I always wondered why we. left behind all the [ __ ] Like, cynically, I'm like, "Do we leave that. stuff behind so that they could use it? >> The older I get, the less I think. there's accidents. There's ineptitude, for sure, but there's also like.

We've done the research, we know. >> Yeah. >> At some point, you know. There's bad. moves you make here or there, but. >> we left behind tanks and Black Hawk. helicopters. Like, what? We couldn't get. those out? We had to leave right now? We. were here for 20 years. Also, we got to. get out right away? >> You don't want to put a grenade in each. one first before you go? Like, what what. do you mean? >> Yeah. >> those are still good. Yeah, we didn't. get out like Vietnam. >> Park them in a field and drop a [ __ ]. bomb on it. Yeah, you don't have to. leave it there for the enemy. >> It's it's.

>> For the Taliban, so they could keep the. people under their thumb forever. >> you retreated last second, I could see. it, but it wasn't that. And then you're. like. >> Get They They didn't have to leave when. they The way they left was insane. When. you see those those ships that are the. the planes that are flying away, and. people are hanging on to the wheels of. the plane and falling off cuz they don't. want to be left behind. >> Because I know. >> many people that worked with the. Americans. >> You said you'd protect us over and over. again. And then you're like, yeah, we've. done this over and over again. We'll. just say it. >> Exactly. >> It says that we it was equipment we gave.

to the Afghan state. So, it wasn't. you know, it wasn't US equipment any. longer. >> And it And it's already given over to. them? >> Yeah. >> We gave it to the Afghan state, but not. the Taliban. The National Defense and. Security Forces, right? And then it. There was not that many of them. And so, the moment that we left, the Taliban. just took everything. >> There's also like, what is the Taliban? We have this word on it. It's like an. evil word, but are they just like the. government in a lot of these places? Like the cartels in in Colombia,

they like build schools. They do bad. [ __ ] but they also are the government. They make sure the businesses run okay. >> Mhm. >> And so, you have this idea cartel. It. sounds like that, but it's like it's. more than that. I wonder how much of the. Taliban is all actually into terrorism. and how much is like just running. day-to-day stuff. >> Well, that's a good point because in. America, I mean, what are the. pharmaceutical drug companies? I mean, how many people have do we we. talked about this the other day. It's. like 70,000 people died of opioid. overdoses in America in 2024. 70,000.

70,000. 70,000. So like and a lot of. that is probably cartel fentanyl, but a. lot of it's like flat out old school. oxycodone. So it's like what are they? >> What's that like? >> What are they and how much are they. donating to political campaigns? Every. year. But they. you saw the most effective thing of that. Sackler with Ferris Bueller that. documentary series or whatever. >> Painkiller. >> Is they started every episode with a. real. person talking about how their son is.

dead. >> Yeah. >> Or, you know, something like that. >> Yeah. >> And then they you're like, "Oh my god, this makes it so real.". >> Yeah. >> Painkiller, that's what it was called. It was so good. >> That's Peter Berg's. Yeah, we talked. about that the other day. It's an. amazing series. Amazing series. Like. that. >> Yeah. >> Matthew Broderick plays such a good. [ __ ] creep. He did such a good job. God, that [ __ ] that show is so. disturbing cuz it's based on true story. >> And they show a guy falling into the. despair from being fine. to just like.

>> Oh, do we all know somebody who got. hooked? >> Mhm. >> I mean, it's so potent. It's so powerful. and they told doctors, they told people, they told everybody that it wasn't even. addictive. They knew it was addictive. They knew it. operated on the same path I mean, that's. in the Painkiller series. That it operates on the same pathway as. heroin. Like you're saying that this is. not addictive. This is a lie. >> Yeah, what they did there was go if that. movie is completely accurate, it's like. Okay, so this is for a heavily cancerous.

like bedridden people that have a pain. threshold of eight to 10. Like it'll be. good for them. Why don't we just extend. the pain threshold to three to 10? >> Yeah. >> And that allows a lot more people in. If. you're at a nine, it doesn't matter if I. get addicted. My life is awful right. now. If you're at a three, like walk it. off. >> Exactly. I talked about when I got my nose fixed. when the doctor tried to give me two. different opiates. And I was like. >> Why? >> I I. it was nothing. I mean, it didn't even. hurt. It was just mildly uncomfortable. and that was also because it was stuffed.

up with gauze. Like those wasn't even. gauze, it was like these foam things. with a tube that they stuff in your nose. to keep your nostrils open while it's. healing. But it you know, he gave me two. different opiates and I was like, is it. going to get worse than this? Cuz I. don't. >> I'm fine. I'm fine. I just. >> Yeah, they don't tell you, but be. careful. I would not take unless you. absolutely need it. >> No, they don't tell you any of that. They want you to do it cuz they're. financially incentivized. >> a wisdom tooth out and the dentist. was like I was like, hey, I don't want. to like. >> Why did you get a wisdom tooth out? Did. it hurt?

>> I don't remember. It was so long ago. >> Yeah. >> It was like 8, 15, 18 years ago. >> What's the What's the logic on that? Are. you supposed to get wisdom teeth taken. out? >> both out. >> Cuz I've had people say I've heard. people say you shouldn't. Like there's. no reason to take them out. >> Well, why do you then? They get impacted. or something? >> I don't know. >> Often they grow in they're growing in. wrong and they cause problems with other. teeth. >> It had to be that. But he gave me this. thing of Vicodin and I was like, I don't. want to and he goes. You're friends with comedians, right? And I was like, yeah. He goes, your your. friends will want it. Whatever you don't.

need. >> What the. >> Whatever you don't need. I'm sure you. can find He was joking around, but he. was right. I have tons of addict. friends. They they are all like, nice. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> Advising me to take aspirin. Not use up. one of those precious Vicodins. >> that stuff once when I had my first ACL. reconstruction. And it was it made me so stupid. >> Vicodin? >> I think it was Vicodin. It was either. Vicodin or Percocet. I can't remember, but I think it was Vicodin. But I wound. up selling it at the pool hall. >> Yeah, sell it. Get some money. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, do the same thing. The only time I. would advise taking Vicodin is if you.

have like two beers. and really want a good night. >> Really? >> Oh, yeah. Those go so well with with. liquor. >> Is Vicodin an opiate? Is it the same. thing as oxycodone? Like, what is. Vicodin? >> It's a downer. I don't know what oxycodone. >> [laughter]. >> It's a. It. combines hydrocodone [laughter]. and Tylenol. >> Oh, Tylenol. Tylenol and hydrocodone. [laughter].

>> Nice one, Joe. >> A lot of people die from that [ __ ] too. >> Tylenol? >> Yeah. >> I was reading this sad story once about. this lady who she had COVID and she was. in so much pain from COVID that she kept. taking Tylenol and she died of a [ __ ]. liver failure. >> Ooh. >> Cuz the Tylenol the acetaminophen killed. her liver. >> Sometimes you see people dying and. you're like, "What a loser way to die.". Oh, yeah. You can't ever tell anybody. There was no victimhood. Aspirin. overdose? Dork. >> That's crazy. How much aspirin do you. have to take before you die? That seems nuts.

>> I feel like all these middle school. girls would try it before they had. access to stuff. >> Really? >> But they just want to be like, "I took a. whole bottle of aspirin.". Like, >> Oh, yeah. Oh, I knew a girl did exactly. that thing. Exactly that in high school. >> too. >> Yeah, she took aspirin. >> But then it's like, "That's not going to. do it." But. your call for attention is there. >> She was also crazy annoying. >> Like, let me tell you how to actually do. it. >> big tits and she [ __ ] everybody. She. was nuts. >> And I'll accept it. >> This girl was a. [ __ ] freak. She [ __ ] everybody. She was an animal. >> [laughter]. >> Catholic school girl.

>> I just. >> [snorts]. >> stumbled across something. [clears throat] weird. >> What? >> Uh I just typed in Tylenol deaths and. this thing came up, the Chicago Tylenol. murders. >> Ooh. >> It seems like it's an unsolved. Yeah, there was tampered Tylenol that. people bought that was potassium. cyanide. Seven people died. >> Yeah, they broke That's when they start. That's when they start doing the seal on. top. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, right. >> I remember this. I remember this. This is when I was in. high school. Do they know why? >> Uh.

investigations, suspects. >> I wonder what the conspiracy what's the. tin foil hat? >> Someone recently was arrested. No. suspect has been charged AS OF 2026. >> WOAH, SO A bunch of people died and they. just got away with it. >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> Someone was convicted of extortion. sending a letter to Tylenol manufacturer. claiming responsibility and demanding a. million dollars. >> If I remember right, they said they said. we found out that the problem with one. plant that had whatever and we've we've. gotten someone else like, well, okay, I. bought this.

bottle before that happened so this. should be safe. and then it wasn't and then it was like. Tylenol or whatever was like covering up. how bad it got. instead of going recall everything. >> Estimated 31 million bottles were in. circulation with a retail value of over. a hundred million dollars equivalent to. 334 million in 2025. The company also. advertised in the national media for. individuals not to consume any of its. products that contained acetaminophen. after it was determined that only these. capsules had been tampered with.

Wow. >> There's other ones in California that. had strychnine in them. >> Wow. So that's probably one of those. things too there's copycats, right? Like. one person hears about someone buying. poison Tylenol. >> I want to do that. >> Yeah, I want to poison people in Ohio. I. want to poison Yeah. >> [ __ ] hacks. Get your own [ __ ]. >> [ __ ] hacks. >> Yeah, just be original. Be awful evil. but be original. There's so many of those like the. Tylenol where like, wait, were you guys. evilly covering this up and resulting in. more deaths? That that I found out down there was.

like Coca-Cola, Dole were like, oh, these are like evil corporations. >> As soon as they realized that they're. You know the Pinto story? >> Uh-uh. >> Woah. >> The [snorts] the mis- the. >> So Ford found out Let's let's. >> Oh, yeah. >> research this to make sure this is true. because someone brought it up on the. podcast. They were blowing up and they. realized it's cheaper to just pay people. off that died from their car being blown. up than it is to recall all these Ford. Pintos. Cuz the Pinto had like the gas station.

the gas tank rather was in the back. >> Yeah, something like. >> And there was something about the design. where if you got rear-ended it would. blow up. >> And it was just say they did a dollar. value on it. >> Yeah. Somebody did. I want to say Ford I want. to you know you say Ford but really it's. a person. It's it's not the Ford of. today. It's some guy. >> a pre-production. >> Yeah, investigators and lawsuits showed. that pre-production crash tests had. already revealed this vulnerability. >> Wow. >> But the car still went to market largely. unchanged. Yeah, who told us about this?

>> Yeah, I'll check. >> I kind of remember that. >> It's one of our guests explained that to. us and it was just like oh god. >> Woah. >> It's so dark. It's such a [ __ ] dark. evil thing to do to say well people are. going to die but we'll just pay them. off. >> What's the number? >> Yeah, what is the number? First of all. the car sucked. Why'd you make it in the. first place? It's a terrible. >> It's so ugly too. It kind of looks cool. now but. >> No, it doesn't. >> It's got that sun sun deck in the back. Garbage car.

So Coca-Cola would have people just like. if you were like a leftist leader. running for whatever they were worried. that. if that person got in power they would. unionize their population and that would. cost them more money in the plants. >> Mhm. >> And they would just have people straight. killed. Straight up murk get them out of the. way. >> had people whacked? >> Dole used to be the American Fruit. Company. >> and a smile? They had people whacked? >> James I mean look it up I like when you. start looking at. >> it's probably an executive somewhere.

Probably an executive. >> do a big like that. >> Cards style who had some guy who was a a. fixer for him. >> Right. >> And he's like look these [ __ ]. are causing problems. And this guy was concerned with his job. as whatever CEO executive. >> But it's happened over a long period of. time. They were giving money to I I FARC. or something in Colombia after they were. already labeled like a terrorist. organization, they're still giving them. money. >> Oy. >> For decades Coca-Cola's faced several. severe allegations regarding the murder.

and intimidation of union leaders at. bottling plants in Colombia and. Guatemala. >> They hired paramilitary death squads to. suppress labor activism. That's like, oh, what? They They want an. honest like day's pay? Get rid of him. >> You know, do you remember when Ross. Perot was running for. >> President? You were too young. >> I barely remember, but sort of. >> I was just starting to be aware of how. [ __ ] up politics were. And because he. was on television explaining about the. World Trade Organization, about when.

they were going to um. start opening up plants in Mexico and. moving jobs to Mexico. He's like, "What. you're What you're going to hear is a. giant sucking sound where all the money. and jobs are going to go down to. Mexico." And what we allowed during that. time was essentially. what the labor unions were doing in this. country. was making sure that people had a a. great wage because the corporations were.

getting paid well. So, the CEOs wanted. all the money like they always do. The. corporation wanted all the money. But, you really can't make a Mustang unless. you have the people that are on the. assembly line. Unless you have the. people that are doing all the hard labor. and all the work. And they should get. compensated correctly. And so, the auto. auto union's workers organized it. and they went on strike and they did the. they did what they had to do. and they were making a great living. They're making a great living and these. people had a nice house and they had a.

car and a garage and it felt good that. they were getting paid really well. And. so, a lot of people thought, "Well, they're getting paid too well and this. is [ __ ] up our profits.". >> Wow. >> And so, what and I'm simplifying this if. you're. an historian. >> instead like the top guys making a. million bucks. >> is. >> open up a plant in Mexico and pay people. [ __ ] slave labor and they go over. there and they pay them slave wages and. these people are making cars for like. [ __ ] how much a dollar a day or. something like that instead of getting.

health care and retirement and you know. and so. >> That's what we're talking about. The. free market says go to Mexico. The moral. market says no no no no no. Hold on. Let's just pay people what they deserve. here. >> It is not just that but they destroyed. Detroit. >> That's right. >> That's Roger and me, that documentary. Michael Moore's greatest documentary is. all his first one is his best one. >> Yeah. >> Because it's really documenting a. horrific. attack on Detroit and and Flint,

Michigan and all those places up there. where there was all these auto plants. and they all just went away, man. And. those jobs went away and now Detroit is. Detroit's kind of bouncing back now. >> of back to Danny who was talking about. it at Brown where he was like just. before COVID it was like starting to be. like some cool new restaurants and like. really coming back then COVID kind of. nailed it down again and now it's I. think back back going back up again. >> some cool stuff in there. I mean there's. there's a bunch of companies that are. like proudly like made in Detroit. >> Underrated pizza. >> Yeah. >> Detroit pizza. >> Oh, really? >> Square. Yeah, it's really good.

>> Square. Interesting. >> Yeah, crispy like on every bite. On. every slice. >> Oh, okay. >> Cuz it's not thick crust square. It's. like that thin crust square. It's just. really good. >> Isn't it funny that we want it in a. circle? I want it in a circle. >> Why? >> I don't know. >> What? >> It's weird. >> Yeah. You get committed to it. >> It's like we don't get committed to that. with a sandwich. Like if I go to a. Jewish deli and I get a square sandwich, I don't say no, I want a little hoagie. I want it to look like a submarine. >> Doesn't look right. >> Right. You know, like no one cares.

>> No one cares. The shape. >> No. It's a really good sandwich. But some. people do. Like if you give them a. cheeseburger but it's on bread, they're. like what is this [ __ ] square. [ __ ] I want have bun, [ __ ]. Yeah, what is this? Rye bread is for. pastrami. Don't give me rye bread with a [ __ ]. cheeseburger, you communist. Yeah, what is this? I give you buying an. Italian sandwich, it has to come on a. big old [ __ ] hoagie roll, a ciabatta.

You know, one of those big [ __ ]. seeded Yeah, that's what you want. It's weird that we want our pizza to. only be circular. >> You not eating it in the round version. >> Right. >> You're eating it in this weird triangle. >> Right. >> You're eating it in a wedge edge of. round. That edge could be. >> You know what I've seen that deeply. disturbs me? When people take a circular. pizza and then they chop it up into a. bunch of squares. I'm like, what have. you done? >> That's the Ohio style. >> Is that what it is? >> Really? Or pub [clears throat] style. >> Oh, so you split it up a lot.

>> That makes kind of sense, but not for. >> You bring one pizza into the bar and now. all [ __ ] 10 people can get a bite as. opposed to. >> I guess the only other way to make pizza. slices like that thin. Like real thin, like long, but that's not fun. >> How many pizzas has Dave Portnoy sold? If you really stop and think about it, Dave Portnoy is probably responsible for. more pizza sales in this country than. any other living human being. >> Yeah, probably. >> Yeah, cuz I watch his pizza reviews, I.

want to go get a pizza. >> He gives it to you honest. >> Yeah, oh, he's very good at it. I mean, he really loves pizza, too. Like though. you could tell. Like this is a He's not. making any money off of that. >> Really not. >> No, it's a labor of love. He likes it, it's. fun for him, and it's become a thing. And he And he gets in arguments with. pizza places sometimes. Like they yell. at him, he yells at them. They. throw [ __ ] at him. It's like really kind of crazy. >> That's so great. >> But I've I've [clears throat] gone to. places because he recommended them. Like. if I'm I find out that I'm in a town and.

I know that there's pizza there, I'm. like, what does Portnoy think? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you want a local. >> Nobody's Nobody's done that with. anything else. Like what have the. celebrities done that with any other. kind of food where they go places and. review it? >> There's a guy in New York, not a. celebrity, but he was his goal was to. search out every single slice in New. York. It took him years and then named. the best ones. >> Boy, how would you know? How are you. going to compare a slice to a slice you. had a year ago? >> It's Right. I guess you got to Yeah, you. really got to know.

>> How are you going to know? >> You can instantly go, "No.". But Yeah, anything that's good you got. to go back and forth. >> Plus it's a super subjective. >> Obviously. >> Yeah. >> You got to go cheese. You know what I. mean? You got to compare cheese to. cheese. >> Right. It has to be just plain cheese. pizza. >> which is a classic. >> It's so good. I mean, other pizzas are. great, but man, a really good plain. cheese pizza is [ __ ] phenomenal. >> Yeah. >> Especially if it's done well. >> Fresh out of Here's the secret to if. you're New York. Underrated tip. I told.

Rudy this, he's going to New York. Fat guy. So he's going to want to like. get some tips. I was like, "No matter. what you were going to get, just say, 'Do you have anything fresh coming. out?'" And if they say it's going to be. like 10 more minutes, say, "It's okay, I'll wait." That's what you want. >> to Krispy Kreme and they got the served. the hot donuts where they come out hot. >> The light's on. >> With that light's on, if I'm thinking. about having it when I used to live in. LA. >> Yeah. >> There was a Krispy Kreme down street. like it was on the way home. And if I. drive by if that [ __ ] hot the hot.

light was on, I'm like, "I'm pulling in. I'm getting a hot one.". >> So much better than warmed up. >> It's so much better. Like when they come. right out and the glazed ones that are. coming right out hot, they just dissolve. in your mouth. right there. >> And good for you. >> Oh, yeah. It's better than better than. vitamins. >> [laughter]. >> Look at that. It cures diabetes. >> You have all dough and you're like, "Let's put some with sugar in it." Like. let's put some sugar on top. >> Fully overwhelm [snorts] your system. I.

remember I would eat them and then I. would go back to my house and I'd go, "What was What's wrong with you?". >> What's. >> [laughter]. >> Why did you do this? The [ __ ] is wrong. with you? >> We've all been there. >> You [ __ ] idiot. >> wrong with you? >> so bad cuz I would eat like a half a. dozen, too. I'd eat like six donuts. I'd. get I'd I always buy like a box and I'd. eat half the box. I'd buy like a box of. a dozen and I'd buy like chocolate cream. filled and all the different ones and. I'd eat like six of them in my car on my. way home. Then I'd get home and I'm all. like.

>> [laughter]. >> Just poison. >> An adult has learned nothing about his. body. >> 39 years old. Sitting on a couch. >> [groaning]. >> I When you have that after 23 years old, you're like what When you're hurting. you're like I just have to let this. pass. I have to just like for an hour. You're like, "What a [ __ ] loser.". >> You're a [ __ ] loser, yeah. >> You ate yourself into feeling bad. >> I do that all the time. >> Drinking I get. It sneaks up on you. >> I eat when If I go to New York Every. time I go to New York, I eat myself into.

a coma. I eat myself way too. >> to. >> Just way too fat. I get heartening like. where my stomach stretched out so much. it hurts cuz I've got so much food in. there I really can't fit any more food. and I look pregnant. My stomach sticks. out. >> beer belly. >> You look so awful and it's all swollen. and bloated cuz it's all the pasta and. bread. It's all the water and the wine. is making it expand. So it's. fat. >> Your body's like bring everything into. the stomach right now. >> Yeah. You have No, like if I had to pass.

a spelling bee, I'm [ __ ]. My IQ dips by like 40 points. Yeah, it's it's terrible. I'm a glutton, too. I'm a I have a real problem with. like volume. I just when I start eating. I'm like a dog. I just keep eating. I. just can't stop. Like I'm good at not. eating. Like I can not eat for like 12. 16 hours. But when I sit down for a. meal, I just or when I'm ordering. I. think it comes from being poor when I. was a kid, too. So, it's like there's. something about like wanting.

everything. I want it all. I want steak. I want pasta. I want this. I want that. I want that. And then after you like you never learn, you [ __ ] idiot. >> Yeah, and you you're like you're like. I've had about enough. And then you're. like, "One more bite." And then you're. like, "And now if we're talking, like. I'm going to eat like two more full. plates worth as we're talking.". >> I remember we were in Atlanta once. This. has happened more than once, but this. one lady in Atlanta was like almost. arguing with me. >> Too much food. >> Yeah, we went to a diner in Atlanta. after our show. And this I ordered two. things. I ordered like meatloaf and I.

ordered a steak. And she's like, "Oh, honey, that's too much food." I go, "No, it's not." I go, "I'm going to eat it. all." And she's like, "That is too much. food." I go, "You don't know You don't. know me.". >> know you. >> You don't know me. I can consume. I will. consume all of this. This is not a I. need this. >> Yeah, when it's time for you to eat, you. eat. >> Especially also after shows, dude. Oh. god, you do [ __ ] long ass shows. >> I brought you and Goldie once a a hot. dog. I was just like There was. I was doing the early days of yours. Not.

early, but like mid-level days and then. high-level days. So, I remember having. more access than anyone could really get. anymore. >> you were behind me in the. >> [laughter]. >> Oh, I remember THE TIME WHEN THE CAMERA. was on you and Duncan so you GUYS MADE. OUT. >> [laughter]. >> WE WERE BORED. >> THEY TIMED IT. >> AND WE noticed we noticed the camera. We. were sitting right behind you. >> So, the way they could see the monitor, so they were sitting behind me, so they. knew what the camera was capturing. >> on that camera. That guy's camera.". >> they waited and then it.

>> [laughter]. >> This guy right here. And in the middle. So, there's a camera on YOU GUYS JUST. >> [laughter]. >> FROSTY DIED. >> OH MY GOD. This is the early early days. This is probably like 2002 or something. like that. That was way back [laughter]. in the day. >> First so, all, we're giving out So, Duncan was being accused of being an. Illuminati a lot then. >> [laughter]. >> So, he goes, "Oh, there's a camera on. me. I got to do this thing." He goes, "What?" He goes, "It's just to stoke the. flames." So, he'll just do this. He'll.

do triangles. At some point he made a. big triangle with both our hands. >> [laughter]. >> And then I think he said it. I don't. know. It doesn't matter. One of us said. it, the other reacted. Oh, hey, next time we got to kiss. And. it was like, [ __ ] yes. >> I'm pretty sure it was Doug. >> God damn it, yeah. You're right. [laughter] We do. It was like, this is going to be awful, but you have to. >> I didn't know about it until after it. was over. People like your friends were. kissing on camera. [laughter] And I just. I literally couldn't breathe. I was. like, oh my god. Oh my god. I go, show. it to me. Show it to me. I like made the.

guys in the truck show me the video of. it. I'm like, oh my god, this is so. funny. >> There was also like a wrestling moment. or it was There was a lot of wrestling. in that fight, if I remember right. It's. a long time ago, but there was a blog. said from like a an MMA blog said, "Two. bored bearded dudes make out during a. >> [laughter]. >> during a UFC fight.". >> [laughter]. >> Dude, you give a comic a camera on you. and we're like, let's go. We got to do. something. >> Especially like you have 6 hours. 6.

hours of fights. So, there's all this. time to think. And they're not all. exciting. Some of them are [ __ ]. boring. And when they're boring, you got. to come up with different ways to. entertain yourself. >> Yeah. >> What you going to do? >> It was so fun. You could see the one. that was on it. So, like when those. fighters are in front of us, >> This guy, I'm going to fix this. Like it wants to work. >> It wants to work. >> I wonder if this one works.

Those are fun times. And that was back when the UFC was like. no one was watching anyway. >> You could just do whatever you want. The. weigh-ins was the best. We had a weigh-in in Florida and it was. just like only the camps kind of came. in. >> Mhm. >> And the Tapout guys, rest in peace. They would they'd come in there. Which. is one rest in peace live well. Um. but. it was just like you'd be in there and I. remember once you were like. Hey Ari, maybe I'll call you up to weigh. weigh it. >> [laughter]. >> And you could you just could. And be. like you want to go now? All right.

It was like there was no real rules. there. It was pretty pretty wild. >> No one knew what was going on. Ari. Shaffir. >> And you would just walk out. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, you could do anything back then. And that was also a real weigh-in. That. was when the guys actually would get on. the scale. Now it's a ceremonial. weigh-in. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah, because now the they weigh in in. advance because they want to give them. more time to recover. >> Oh, right. >> The whole thing's gross. They shouldn't. be weighing in and they shouldn't be. cutting weight. >> As a casual fan it's the most obvious. one. Make them weigh in at at the event.

>> It's crazy. I mean, we've had long. discussions. I had a discussion recently. with Hunter Campbell where we're trying. to figure out a way. to blow up all the weight classes and. make people fight at what their actual. weight is. But you have to like show up. in camp like, you know, >> Get to the right exactly right weight. a pound or two below to for safety. >> But it would have to be random. Like. they couldn't know you were coming. >> Oh, like the whole way through it has to. be at that weight. >> Just show up. What do you weigh? Get on. the scale. 185? Bro, you're supposed to.

be fighting at 155. How the [ __ ] are you. 185? >> It's dumb because you're not actually. you're you're it's like having field. goals decide like an NFL game. It's like. this is not this is like a minor part of. the sport. >> Right. >> So that's like you're having a 185er. fighting against fighting against a 160. pounder. So you're not actually. >> Well, they they they they they they they. they they they they they they they they. they they they they they they they they. they they they they they they they they. they they they they they they they they. they they they they they they they they. they they they they they they they they. they they they they they they they they. >> But it's rewarding guys who know how to. cut better than guys who don't. And as a. casual fan that's not what we're into.

>> It's also very biological. So some people can cut weight very. easily and some people it's a [ __ ]. grind. And it's way more of a grind for. women. Women hold on to that water. weight a lot harder than men do. So, when a woman has to lose like a woman. has to cut like 20 lbs, it's Yeah, man. They cut weight. But apparently it's way. more brutal for them. >> Interesting. >> Yeah. It's [ __ ] terrible. They should. They should It should have never been in. there in the first place. And they.

should figure out a way to get it out. >> in high school wrestling when people. fight at like 112? That's just your. weight or do you cut for that? >> day. The weigh in the day of. But it's. still you're still cutting weight. I I. weighed I used to wrestle at 128 and. then I wrestled. >> 128 for a grown man? I mean in high. school? Oh, okay. >> And then 134. And then I cuz I couldn't. really make 128 anymore. And then when I. started fighting in taekwondo, I fought. my first fights were at 140. That was. when I was like 15, 16. And then by I my.

last fight at 140, I was 17 and I was. not 140. And I was starving myself and I. was cutting a bunch of water weight. And. then I would fight dehydrated. >> Like fighters do in wrestling. >> I only did it one year and then I went. up to 155, which was much better. That. was easy cuz I didn't have to cut any. weight. I was way better then. But that thing where they do in. wrestling, you're not getting hit in the. head in wrestling, right? So, it will. deplete you and so you have to make a. decision like how much am I going to be. depleted and want to be the the size.

bully and have a bigger frame and. utilize it but have depleted. performance. Like how much how good a. shape would I have to be in where that. depletion only takes out a certain. percentage of my ability and so it's. like this calculated thing. Like Kurt. Angle for instance, Kurt Angle when he. was an Olympic gold medalist, he didn't. cut any weight. And he was a phenomenal. wrestler. Kurt Angle was a [ __ ]. monster and he was beating guys way. bigger than him. But he had so much. energy because he didn't cut weight. And.

so he was wrestling against guys that. did cut weight and he was dominating. them. Yeah, because he was full. strength. >> were bigger than him. >> They were bigger than him, but he had. incredible skill, also strong as [ __ ]. anyway, and had no depletion of his. resources. Like his body was working at. full capacity. >> It's like Greg Fitzsimmons in his prime. He would just fight anybody. >> [laughter]. >> He would just fight anybody. A tiny. little man fighting anybody. >> He got attacked on stage at Stitches and. uh. >> The guy got a rush.

>> attacked him and they they [ __ ] some. brawl broke out and they they the. bouncers got in and they take the guy. away and then Greg gets on the. microphone. Didn't even end the show. Gets on the microphone and goes, "Anybody else wants some of this?". >> [laughter]. >> It was great. HE FINISHED HIS SET. >> WOW. >> He finished He's great composure, kept. it together, finished his set. [ __ ]. fun, dude. >> Wow. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> But they should they they really should. ban. weight cutting. But the only way they're.

really ever going to be able to do that. is to make more weight classes. There's. not enough weight classes. >> Enough then you'll have the what I don't. understand. I've talked about it. >> boxing has. >> Boxing you have don't you have. >> 18 weight classes. [clears throat]. >> have like some like who cares weight. classes? >> Yeah, so there's sort of. >> And if you really want to get known you. got to move up or down to like one of. the majors. >> Well, you know what's weird? Like 160's. a huge weight class. 147 huge. welterweight huge weight class. Big. giant fights. Cruiserweight? Which is like.

between light heavyweight and. heavyweight, no one gives a [ __ ] about. >> Wow. Why? >> It's weird. It's just weird like nobody. gives a [ __ ] about the cruiserweight. champion. Like Usyk before he became the. heavyweight champion was the. cruiserweight champion and people cared. about him just cuz he was so skillful, but he had to go up to heavyweight. before people cared. But if he was a. light heavyweight he would have been. huge. >> Beyond. Shame on. >> It's weird. >> Interesting. >> Very weird. But I think boxing How many. weight classes is boxing have? Professional boxing? I want to say. there's 18, whereas in the UFC there's.

only eight. It's a big difference. >> It's a big difference. You can And then. you can follow champions better. >> Yeah. But it's also it's like. >> Mighty Mouse came in it was like. you have this dominant guy coming in. >> Uh-huh. >> to to really launch the weight class. but people are like, we don't know this. weight class. So, we're less interested. in you than we should be. >> Well, then people have a thing about. tiny people. They they look at a small. guy who's like 5'3 and weighs 125 lb and. like, nah. We don't care. >> 17 here. >> 17. >> Red Ban said the 135ers and 125ers they. should have to come into the octagon on.

little mini horses and ride. >> [laughter]. >> ride around a couple times. >> That's so rude. That is so rude. >> [laughter]. >> That's so Well, what was also. interesting is like flyweight women, like Valentina Shevchenko, it's one of. the premier weight classes in the. women's division. >> Cuz that's heavy? >> For a woman it's like normal size. 125. is like a normal weight. It's like a man. fighting at 160 or, you know, 170. It's. normal.

>> Weird. >> Yeah. >> It's weird, but there's not enough. weight classes and they should have. fixed that a long time ago. There's. there's giant gaps. Like the gap between. 185, which is uh middleweight, and then. 205, which is light heavyweight. That's. crazy. It's a giant leap. >> And then everything else. >> Well, not even. That's what's even. stupider. You get to heavyweight at 265. That's the cutoff for heavyweight. So, you have to weigh 265 or under. >> That's my favorite weigh-ins cuz they're. still wearing their jeans.

>> Right. >> don't really They're like, I'm inside of. range. >> Yeah, they don't give a [ __ ] But the. the So, ceremonial weigh-ins is what we. have now. So, when someone weighs in. now, they've already weighed in in the. morning in an official scale in front. of, you know, doctors and state reps. >> And they give them a chance to come back. again. >> commission checks them out. And so, then they just suck a bunch of. water down and electrolytes and they. slowly rehydrate over the four or five. hours. Yeah. >> They have to do it slowly. >> is so crazy behind it. >> division [clears throat] is older than.

the United States. >> Wow. >> Officially, 1738. >> Wow. [groaning]. >> Weigh in as much as they want. >> Wow. >> real? >> So, heavyweight was weigh They weighed. 160 plus. Since the division is older. >> 160 plus? >> Yeah, people were tiny back then. >> yeah. >> You know, Rocky Marciano was like one of. the great heavyweights of all time. He. weighed 185 lbs. So, Rocky Marciano, the heavyweight. champion of the world, one of the. greatest of all time, weighed 15 lbs. less than me.

>> Wow. >> Yeah. Isn't that nuts? >> It's so different. If you ever look back. at a fat guy from like Chris Farley. types or whatever, and you're like, "They're not even You're just a little. big.". >> Yeah, it's like normal fat. >> body. >> Look at these guys back then, where they. wore diapers and [ __ ] Like, what's that. What are you wearing? What's that thing. around your waist? What is that? >> It's a wave of blood. >> And they all fought bare knuckle back. then, too. >> Quick fights. >> Well, they just broke their hands a lot. They had a They threw a lot of punches. to the body back then, because they. didn't want to break their hands on.

people's heads. >> That was the biggest defense back then, the Brian Dennehy thing. You. lower your head and make him punch you. in the head and break. >> your head. And then they all boxed like. this, too, where they would throw their. knuckles out like that. >> Wow. >> Because if you just blast someone, you. could blast someone like that if you. have gloves on and hand wraps. >> Stockton slap would have gone a long way. back then. >> Oh, yeah. They would have been. legendary. Slapped them. >> Yeah. >> It's uh It's funny how things change, and then how they go back to it, cuz now. bare-knuckle boxing is making a huge.

comeback. >> See chess boxing? >> Oh, yeah, I've seen that. Yeah, it's. ridiculous. >> Be fun. It's pretty fun. >> out of each other, and then play chess. >> minutes. >> If you're a good boxer, like you have a. massive advantage. The guy just got a. concussion. He doesn't even know what. the knight does. >> He's like, uh like, "You can't move. that." Like, "Uh, fuck.". >> I wonder whose idea that was. What kind. of [ __ ] psychopath. >> Who wants to combine those things? >> Yeah. You You It'd have to be people that. aren't that good at boxing and aren't. that good at chess. Cuz if somebody. flatlines you and sends you to the. hospital, you're not playing chess. afterwards.

>> Yeah. >> So, it has to be people that kind of. suck at boxing. >> Kind of suck at boxing. >> Cuz if you really like Mike Tyson. somebody, you [ __ ] KO them and they. have to get carried out on a stretcher. Well, then you by default won by default. won the chess as well, cuz they can't. even play. >> Yeah, just dusty boards. >> You have to take them to the hospital. How how are they going to play chess? >> I don't even understand the rules there. >> to have a minimum of 1,800 in chess to. be a competitor. >> What is that? What's 1,800? >> I would imagine pretty good. >> Is that a score? What does that mean? There's scores in chess?

>> like a golf handicap. >> Yeah, it's something like that. >> Wow. [clears throat]. >> So, what is like Magnus Carlsen, the guy. that was on the podcast? What does he. have? What's his rating? >> Let's see. I just typed it. >> He plays poker, too, that guy. >> Does he? >> Super smart dude. >> He's one of those dudes you talk to him. Like there's some guys you talk to him. like, "Oh, there's a lot working on. behind those eyes.". It's like if you were high around that. guy, you'd probably get weirded out. You're like, "You're an alien.". >> He's a 2840. >> Wow, way better.

>> What is the highest-ranked chess player. alive today? >> Joe. >> Might be him. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah, he peaked at 2882, the highest in. history. >> [clears throat]. >> That's crazy. >> [snorts]. >> That is crazy. >> Wow. What about that schizo Jew turned. Arab, whatever his name is? >> Which guy uh. >> Which guy. >> [laughter]. >> Which [ __ ]. >> The [ __ ]. >> The [ __ ] boy. >> The boy who went schizo. >> Schizo Jew turned Arab? >> Yeah. Wasn't there some. >> Bobby Fischer's are you talking about? >> [laughter].

>> Oh, yeah. He became like very. anti-Semitic, right? >> I don't know. >> Very close, 2785. >> He So, Magnus is better than him? >> Yeah. I mean, if you If Magnus is the. best ever. >> Yeah, Magnus is the best ever. Oh, okay. >> He's a [ __ ] super genius. >> So, what happened with Bobby Fischer? >> This actually has him rated maybe one. point below Magnus' peak, 2881 one year. performance it says. >> Bobby Fischer? >> Yeah, it's based off of like who you're. playing when you're playing them and how. old like, you know, good they were at. the time and how good they. >> It's like golf. It's like who's in the. tournament.

>> Yeah. >> Mhm. Yeah, well, that happens. Like pool. has ratings. They have a Fargo rating. And they they also do it per game. Like. I was There's this guy he he just died. recently. Uh Chang Jung-Lin and he's. this dude from um from Taiwan and he. played at a thousand. A thousand was his. for one game. >> He couldn't get it again. >> But not for one game, excuse me. For. like one match. >> What would he have to give? To you or to to me? >> Oh, it would be pointless. He just. destroyed us. Just as soon as you He.

never missed. >> He would like make a ball and you win? >> There's another guy, this guy who's also. from Taiwan, um Ko Pin-Chung and he. played an entire match where he never. missed a ball. He won 11 to nothing. against another world-class. >> Who didn't get Who lost a coin flip to. start? >> Yeah, he lost [clears throat] the lag. They lag and I think. >> That's it. The guy didn't touch the cue. >> He broke and left a long shot on the one. ball and the guy missed that and he. never made a ball. Not He didn't make. one ball the entire every There was a.

couple times. >> Winner goes first, yeah. >> There was a couple times was winner. breaks. So, every time he broke he and. he was making the one ball on the side. like every game. And every time he. didn't have a shot he would just play a. lock-up safety and the guy would kick. and then leave a shot and then he would. run out again. He would just He got just. got in the zone. So, he played at a. 1,000 Fargo for the entire match. That's crazy. That means he never missed a ball on. 4-in pockets. >> Oh, really tight.

>> Tiny little pockets. There's people that are like. >> It's amazing how big pool is too across. the world and billiards, too. >> I know. In in in Asia it's huge. >> Asia's huge. Do you find people just an. Just so they don't get wet and they're. all out there playing and and just like. flip-flops and. >> Well, we're losing a lot of the top. Taiwanese and Chinese players to a game. that they play in China now. Where it's. like a snooker table. It doesn't look. like a pool table. Like the the pockets. aren't cut the same way. They're. rounded. But they're playing nine-ball.

and they're playing with like purses. like top top purses like $600,000 for a. tournament. >> $700,000. >> So they're all going over there and. playing in that. Because you can make. millions in a year instead of a couple. hundred grand, which is like what the. best players make in America. >> women were going to [ __ ] Russia to. play basketball. >> Oh, right. >> Until now. >> Until now. >> When Well, just don't bring weed. You. know, I mean, just don't bring weed. >> The thing is like. >> But also, I think they were all doing. it. >> basketball a lot, apparently. I'm not a.

basketball player, clearly. But li. >> [laughter]. >> You couldn't keep score. >> Me and Muggsy Bogues. >> Yeah. All right, that's a good. reference. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Nice. >> Um, but weed, apparently, is phenomenal. for basketball players. Like they all. talk about it. Like I've talked to. basketball players about weed. They say, "I can play way better when I'm high.". >> Well, they had the. collective bargaining not a late one, but like this 20 years ago and they're. like, "We can test for drugs." But they. fought back. They go, "Not weed." So, if. you get caught with weed, sure, you can. suspend us, but you can't test for it.

Because why? We're all doing it. >> Yeah, they're all doing it and it helps. the game. Like it helps their their feet. It helps pool, for sure. It's. >> poker, for sure, for sure. >> Oh, I'd imagine you would read people's. tells. >> Yeah. >> According to World Snooker Tour figures, more than 24.5 million unique viewers. watched the third session of the final. alone in China. And during the whole. 2025 tournament, it had a cumulative. audience of 180 million in national. broadcast. >> Compared That's That's like an NFL.

playoff. >> 24 million watched the finals of this. What's What's It's like a billion for. Super Bowl, right? But like a playoff. game. >> But [clears throat] that's snooker Or. like the English call it snooker. So. snooker is very different and it's on a. 12-foot table. It's a huge table and the. balls are very small and they don't have. numbers on them. It's just like red, black, pink. It's mostly red. There's. red that's in the stack and then you. have black, pink, brown and I think. there's another I've never played the. game. I [ __ ] around with it when I was.

in Scotland. They had a table and I was. like shooting balls on it. It's. interesting. >> In Colombia, they all play this thing. and it's the they take their cue and. move a thing over like a scorer over and. they keep playing and move one over. And. they're all playing it and they're just. kind of casual bars, but it's like 20. tables and they're everywhere. >> And this is where there's no holes in. the table, right? Yeah, that's called. three cushion billiards. >> I had to sit there and watch and drink. >> game. I don't know how to play it really. well. I you know, well, it's. it's really under it is definitely.

strategy, but it's really understanding. angles. It's understanding how to kick. and how to like but when I say kick, what I mean is like go off a rail and. hit another rail and then collide with. the ball. So three cushion billiards is. you have three balls in the table. That's it. And so you have the the whole. table. it's like a big ass pool table, but. there's no pockets and you have three. balls. And so what you have to do is hit. one ball and then go three rails at. least, three cushions and then hit the.

second ball. >> ball. Wow. >> Yes. But also put yourself in a position. where then you can make another shot. afterwards. >> Right. Or play a safety. >> It's a complicated game and it's. different because it's a lot of it's. spin and the harder you hit it, the. shorter the angle is and if you hit it. with English, it spins out wider or. shorter depending upon what you're. trying to do with it. And it it's a but. if you get good at it, it really will. help your pool game because you'll. really have a much more deep. understanding of how the ball moves.

around the table with different speed. and side spin and all that kind of [ __ ]. I've I've only [ __ ] around with it. though and then not in a long time. I We. We had a table at Executive Billiards in. White Plains. We used to have a one. three cushion table that we would [ __ ]. around on. >> for for for laughs? >> I couldn't do it. I would just I want to. see the balls go away. >> It's nice. >> to see when I'm fireballing, I want to. see it go down that hole. Bye-bye. I want to clear it out. I don't want. balls linger and just staring at me.

like, "Do it again. Do it again. Do it. again. I'm still here. Do it again.". >> It's funny that that became a bar sport. >> Mhm. >> It's really just darts and that became. the sports at bars. >> Sure. >> And And the table takes up a lot more. space. >> The dart board, yeah. >> Dart board, sure, but the pool table, you need to like some actual space. >> Yeah. And that space is totally not. usable other than that. It's That's. where it is unless a girl's dancing on. it. >> [laughter]. >> I went to a I went to a This was like.

pool hall/like samba place in in in. somewhere in Brazil. >> What? Pool and samba? >> Yeah, it's like daily it's a pool hall, but then at night it turns into a samba. and like the highest level guys come in. their capital and their music capital. Um it's so fun, but these guys don't. stop playing pool. And so everyone's. dancing it's so packed and crowded it's. excuse me and you're like, "The. etiquette is you just know when you're. at a bar like, all right, all right.". But you got You want to be like, "Bro, not just It's packed. You can't play. pool here.". >> Yeah, you can't play pool there. >> But they were doing it. >> Well, there's a place in the Bronx that.

is this Dominican pool room where they. gamble big money, big money. And they. stream some of the matches on YouTube. and it's [ __ ] bananas because people. are just talking constantly. They're. yelling at each other in Spanish and. >> You know, Dominican people are having. fun. >> fun. >> They're They're all these Spanish. speaking and they're yelling and they're. all very flamboyant and having a good. time and they get people to go over. there and play like pros and they get so.

rattled because they. right. >> wow. >> right not only that but the the guys can. play and they're accustomed to that. culture so they're accustomed to all the. yelling and all the craziness and guys. standing in front of the whole while. you're shooting at it which is a no-no. in regular pool. >> like high school. do it then do it. >> they don't do it that bad it's not that. bad but there's plenty of guys moving. around the table they're all talking. everyone's yelling the tables next to. you are yelling they don't care if. you're betting $30,000 on a set.

>> Dominicans having so much fun they're. allowed to use the n-word. >> [laughter]. >> blacks are like you know what they kind. of rule give it to them just Dominicans. >> let it go let [laughter] it go but it's. really interesting because I've watched. guys who are like top pros go over there. and [ __ ] lose to guys that they're. not supposed to lose to and the reason. why they're losing is cuz they're just. rattled by the environment and so what a. lot of these guys will do they put. airpods on so they'll put airpods in. with the noise canceling so they try to.

take away some of the. the [ __ ] sound and just focus but. you're really going to be playing at. like 60% of your capacity because. there's just too much chaos going around. if you play in a real legit pool. tournament everything's [clears throat]. dead quiet while the guy's down on the. ball and then they clap when someone. makes the ball when then he moves to the. next shot they stop clapping. >> too respectful. >> yes. >> but not in these [ __ ] pool and these. guys are playing for big money they're. playing for tens of thousands of dollars. and they're just getting sharked and.

rattled and. >> stealing their blood. >> I watched guys like I watched this guy. Oscar Dominguez play this dude Oscar's a. top pro he's on the Mosconi top cup he's. on the the Mosconi team for the US and. he. was over there playing this dude I was. like how did they get him to go there. >> wow. >> I talked to my friend Jeremy Jones. >> too it's like the guys who do um Man the. DJs like I'll play for free It's just. like it's a rep thing. >> Well, I don't think it's that. I think. it's the money. The. Well, Oscar loves to gamble and he's. going to a place where someone's willing.

to gamble him for a lot of money. >> What you say this thing about Jo- Jones? I'm going to listen while I go to piss. >> Go piss. We'll We'll pause. We'll pause. We'll be right back, ladies and. gentlemen. >> I'm not going to stay the whole thing. >> We'll pause. >> We're back, folks. >> We're back. So, I was saying is my. friend Jeremy Jones who was US Open. champion. He said he went to that pool. hall once and he said I'm never going. back. >> Too much? >> It's too much. >> [laughter]. >> Too much and he's also said that the. neighborhood is like. >> Dank. >> Things can go sideways. >> Yeah. >> It's It's a neighborhood where like hey, you might go there three nights in a row.

and you have a good time. Fourth night, four people get shot. You know what I. mean? >> always a problem underground pool I mean. poker rooms. You play play at Commerce. or places like that's legit, it's fine. You go underground like there's not. There's a guard there. >> Right, and you're walking out with a lot. of money. I remember when you were struggling in. the early days of comedy when we kind of. first met and you were making your money. by winning pool tournament or poker. tournaments. >> Yeah. Finishing at least. >> Yeah, you would go to these casinos and. make and you would play it like a job.

You'd be like super serious. >> I read books on it. >> Yeah. >> The best book. I bought the There's tells and there's. strategy. The best my favorite book is. this guy Mike Caro. It's a book called Mike Caro's Book of. Poker Tells. >> Mhm. >> Yeah, I managed to use one of them once. in a in a World Series event. Um. that if it This is the one where it goes. if someone looks at your chips it's cuz. they have a killer hand and they think. those chips are theirs and there's a. It's just like you know when you lie,

you look away a little bit. >> Mhm. >> That's like a tell we all kind of know. >> So, you look at the chips like ooh. >> the chips for a second you're like and. it's cuz you're like those are my You're. not worried about your chips cuz you. know your chips are staying. You got a. full house. >> Right. >> You know those are safe, but you're. looking at those like how much of that. can I extract? So, I was throwing a. bluff down against a pro at the World. Series. It was like whatever. And I I. was like, I think he must have read this. book. >> Ooh. >> And so I'm banking on that. So I'm. holding my bluff nothing hand. I just. kind of do a very subtly just do one. little and he goes, "Yeah, right." He.

chucked his hand away. >> Wow. >> Yeah, he thought he had me read. But the best thing about Mike Caro's. poker tells. >> you double crossed. >> crossed. >> Ooh. >> crossed you. >> Clever. >> Thank you for recognizing that. >> that. >> I love a double cross. >> I love that. [laughter]. That's so cool. That's the cool thing. about poker that it's like a lot of it's. [ __ ] You're bullshitting. You know, you're bluffing. >> The best thing about the poker tells was. written in the 70s and there's a bunch. of raced race-based tells. >> Really?

>> Yeah. Like if a. >> Which ethnicities? >> All. >> All of them? >> If an older white man re-raises you, get. out. That guy doesn't bluff. He's just. trying to play. You know, his wife died. years ago. He's just trying to. Uh uh they're like if you're playing. against a Mexican, find out when payday. is and if it was this Friday, they're. bluffing. They're just throwing in. anything. They just want to play. They're going to part with their money. There's a whole thing on blacks. I. forget exactly what they were saying on. that, but it was like. >> Interesting. >> very interesting. >> What year was this written? >> I think in the 70s. >> Interesting. Back when you could be.

honest. >> Yeah, and he was like, "I don't know. I'm just telling you how to win.". >> the family days. >> Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> You can you can get away with a lot of. like honest observations about different. cultures. >> Oh. >> Mike Caro's Book of Poker Tells. Orientals. >> Orientals. >> Are they very skillful or very luck. oriented? >> it says it now Asian-Americans. Like why. what happened to Oriental? >> What happened to Oriental? >> Someone told me that Oriental's like a. slur now. >> But it's actually the right word. >> Is it? The Orient?

>> It's people or goods from the Orient. You know what the opposite is? >> What? >> Uh you and I. occidental. People or goods from. I guess not the Orient. >> Really? We're occidentals? >> Mhm. >> You know what's also interesting? It's. like Asian. Asian is so much of the world. >> Yeah. >> Like Asian includes India, which is. Asia. >> Nah, if I was president, executive. order. That's no. [laughter]. No, that's not who we're talking about. That's not who we're talking about. >> in Asia?

>> Yeah, right. That's Middle East. [ __ ]. off. [ __ ] off. [laughter] You know, oh, Israel's also Asia, by the way. >> But it's also like the Philippines is. Asia. >> That's Asia, but it's I'll give you. that. >> Okay, but it's way over there. >> It's way over there. >> And then you got China, and then you got. Japan, and then you got Korea, and South. Korea, and North Korea. >> Okay, let's be real. China, Japan are. the obvious ones. >> Yes. >> Those are the big ones. >> The further you get, the more you get. >> Korea, Korea is also a big one. >> Vietnam, you're still in the gold. >> Vietnam gets a little yeah.

>> I don't know. Hmm, well, they're almost Russian. >> Saudi Arabia is Asia? [ __ ] off. We're. talking about China and their. subsidiaries. >> Look how big Asia is. >> Cambodia, okay, sure. All the jungles. Wow. >> What have I been doing? >> So, Russia's technically Asia? That's Asian Russia. >> Israel is the craziest one. >> Yeah, I yeah, we cut off right here cuz. it'd be like European Russia, too. >> Okay, so there's. Asian [clears throat] Russia, so that. would be Siberia, right? >> Yeah, way up there. >> The Maldives are.

>> But that would be like Mongolia, for. sure. Kazakhstan is Asia. Wow. >> Yeah, but no. >> Mongolia. But a lot of the Kazakhstan. guys look Asian. Like this guy Shavkat. Rakhmonov who fights in the UFC. >> A Mongolian accent is crazy cuz it. really is. It It sounds like half. Chinese, half Russian. >> Hmm. >> You know, they look Chinese speaking. like that Russian accent. >> Hard people, bro. >> Mhm. >> Hard people. Kazakhstan, India, Iran? Iran is Asia? Wow.

>> Israel's Asia. >> Israel's Asia. >> Israel's the edge. >> Yeah, basically everything that's. on the. >> those people are oriental. >> Orientals. I'm going to Next time I go. to Jerusalem, I'm going to call them all. Orientals. >> Look how close Yemen is to Ethiopia. It. feels like you could swim there. >> Yeah. >> If you really were motivated. >> Damn. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, if you want to. You can just go to. a pool also. You don't really have to. >> Hey, look where Israel. No worries. Look where Israel is.

>> Maps are so interesting. You see how. they split [ __ ] up? >> Israel is like. >> That's what's nuts. You ever see the. border between Egypt and Palestine? That border's nuts. >> What do you mean? >> Oh my god, it's the most fortified. border you've ever seen in your life. You think the border between Israel and. Palestine is rough? >> Really? >> The Yeah, the the border between Egypt. and Palestine is way harder to get. >> I do not want those people in there. >> not want those people over there. You ever seen it? [ __ ] rolls of barb. wire. It's crazy. Yeah, look at that.

That's. >> guy just catch a baby being thrown over? >> Click on that one, please. The one that. says the Arab Weekly. on on the top. Yeah, right there. Look. at that. Look at that, bro. >> Wow. >> Yeah, you ain't getting through that. >> What a nice place to stroll for those. two guys. >> [laughter]. >> Just a relaxing afternoon near the Gaza. wall. Look at that. That's crazy. >> Sad times. >> Oh, the saddest.

The saddest. >> Peace in the Middle East. >> Yeah. >> Good luck. >> Um yeah. They're all nuts. >> Oh, that's even more nuts now. Look. what's happening in Lebanon. Now they're. bombing Lebanon, too? >> Really? >> Yeah. Oh my god. >> Are you following any of this? >> Israel's bombing the [ __ ] out of. southern Lebanon. >> Lebanon? >> Yeah, I was reading about this Ryan Grim. was covering this. Lebanon reporter this reporter in. Lebanon that that Israel killed. They. followed her with drones. They bombed a.

car in front of her. She ran into an. abandoned building and then they bombed. the [ __ ] out of the building. And all. this took hours. And all the while, she. was contacting like whoever runs Lebanon. and they were contacting Israel and. saying, "Hey, this is this is a. reporter." And. so then they got text messages between. like she this someone from the IDF had. been saying to them, "We're going to. kill you." And then they got the number. from her phone and contacted the person. from the IDF and they're saying, "Hey, she works for Hezbollah.

and you know, [ __ ] you and you're. naive." It's it's crazy. Like they're. just openly killing journalists. >> You know what they did a good job at. when I was traveling is they got it more. than up here is separating Israel from. Jew. >> Mhm. >> They really were like, "We don't have. any problem with Jews." But they were. like be very staunchly like. anti-Israel. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well, if you live in Israel, you have to. do military service, right? So everyone. who lives in in Israel is a part of the. military in their eyes. Like everyone who lives in Israel has.

served in the military. >> It's interesting though. It's like a lot. of those kids and then turned to adults. are like very against what they're. doing. >> Oh, yeah. >> It's like I uncovered I think like part. of it. They're like, "Yeah, we don't. like this." I mean, half this country. or more even didn't vote for Trump, didn't vote for Biden. So they're like, "Well, I didn't I don't like this." But. they you still like. you have to like be pro everything about. this thing. Even though they're like you. can not like certain things. >> Right. The idea that like all Israelis. have a a single hive mind.

>> Yeah. >> That's crazy. That's not the case in any. country ever. >> It's not the same in any crowd. >> Especially a democracy. Cuz Israel's. like like literally the only democracy. over there, really. >> Yeah, and they have parliament, too. So. they have a lot of choices. >> And they're trying to like prosecute. Netanyahu while all this is going on. >> Israelis? >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> I mean, this was one of the things that. most people aren't aware of, but that. before October 7th, there There hundreds. of thousands of people on the streets in. Israel protesting Netanyahu. We talked.

about it the other day because. they were trying to expand, but this was. before the war. So they were trying to expand. what they can do in terms of like with. their constitution. We talked about it. What it was the. exact. Jamie, do you remember? The exact thing that they were disputing. over, but it was expanding the power. that the government has. And so people. were protesting that and then all of a. sudden October 7th pops off. Power. Yeah. And then, you know, >> It's how it happened here at 9/11. It. became like if you say anything bad now,

you're like a a traitor instead of just. like. Well, I was already saying they have. issues with. you know, police overstepping or. whatever. Like but now you can't say. that for about 3 years. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. So. >> [sighs]. >> Before October 7th, Israel experienced 9. months of massive sustained protest. against Prime Minister Benjamin. Netanyahu's government largely driven by. opposition to proposed judicial reforms. These demonstrations have included. hundreds of thousands of participants. accused the right-wing coalition of.

undermining democracy, weakening the. Supreme Court, and attempting to. interfere with Netanyahu's ongoing. corruption trial. >> so that's the same as here where it's. not about like are you pro gay marriage. or not or are you pro like peace with. Palestine or not? That's just people. taking power. And so that goes beyond. the right or left and just go, "No, no, that's an overstep.". >> Yeah. Yeah, it's. But anyway, it's [ __ ] cuz it's not going to get. any better. >> It's not. >> And they've destroyed Gaza. Gaza's just. a wasteland now.

I mean, someone. posted a recent video of Gaza, like what. it looked like now, like right now. They. sent a drone. to get or something to get video footage. of what Gaza looks like and it's. crazy. It's crazy. It looks like they dropped a. nuke. They just did it slowly. Instead. of dropping one nuke, they they did. thousands of [ __ ] conventional bombs. and did the kind of destruction that a. nuke would do. >> if you ask people how how it's like.

polarizing. Everybody got to polarized. that you couldn't just be like, "Uh any. suffering is wrong.". But like you I could show you a dead. baby. >> Mhm. >> And a lot of people will go, "Well, what. I got to know what their last name is. first before I can tell you if I feel. bad or not.". >> Right. Yeah. >> Instead of just like that's. clearly clearly wrong. >> about it. >> Yeah. >> As it's so dark. And then if you talk. about like what's happening in Gaza, people say, "Well, October 7th shouldn't. happen." Like, okay, you're right. It. shouldn't have. But guess what? Those. kids that live in Gaza, they didn't do.

October 7th. They didn't do it. So. >> Like, "Well, they're on their team.". It's like I don't know. >> What we did to Iran. What if Iran nukes. New York City? Oh, the those kids that. live in the Bronx, they had nothing to. do with what happened in Iran. So like, is that okay? Like, what are we talking. about? This is It's [ __ ] nuts. It's. Tribal warfare is [ __ ] bananas and. it's still going on in 2024. >> to people when I knew like cousins and. stuff in the military and they were I. just gotten out and they were like, "We're all now This is before October. 7th." It's like a few years before, maybe 2018. They're like, "We're talking.

now cuz we have the internet now. And. we're like, this isn't sustainable and. we don't want to keep doing this. We got. to start figuring out a peace thing.". >> Yeah. >> That's all gone now. >> It's all gone. >> Yeah. >> Not only is it all gone, but now that. they've started bombing Lebanon, everybody's really terrified cuz they're. like, "Well, where is this going?" Cuz. they're bombing Christian villages in. Lebanon. And they were There's video of. them destroying these solar panels that. these Christian villages have in Lebanon. where they're just plowing over and and. using like tractors to. take down these solar panels. >> Part of it goes to like.

>> This isn't the military. Like, what are. you doing? >> Yeah. It still goes back to like Wesley. Clark, if I got that right, >> Yeah. Yeah, the seven countries. >> the seven countries and Iran was on. there and we just hadn't gotten there. yet. >> Oh, yeah. >> But that was always like that's not a. new thing. That was just in the works. for a couple decades. Just waiting for. the time is right. >> Yeah, they wanted to do it within a 5. years. So it took 25. >> Took long. >> Yeah. The Wesley Clark thing is funny. because. you know, Dave Smith had a debate debate. with Coleman Hughes about that. And Coleman Hughes is like. but Wesley Clark never said he read the.

memo. He said someone told him about the. memo. He goes any historian would not. even be able to use that. >> Oh, I thought they said they had they. said. >> I don't know. >> Yeah, I don't know. >> I don't think so. I think the way. Coleman was describing it. But the. reality is, okay, you Yeah, you might be. right. Maybe because he hadn't read it. any historian would not have been able. to use it in a book. But the fact that. it all took place. exactly how the memo stated, that seems. relevant. >> and that came out before. So they're. like, "Hey, we're going to Iran soon.". And then it was like they did Syria.

They kept trying. Syria was the best to. me because. when when Obama was doing it and I don't. care who's in charge. They're all doing. the same [ __ ] to me. But they go, "We. got to go in there to overthrow this. dictator." And then a people would just. come off the whole like Middle Eastern. war. Like, "No, we're done." And so they. couldn't justify it. And then they go, "Hey, this is insurgent group and. they're going to get out of hand. We got. to go in and control them." And then it. was like, "Wait, you want to go fight. the guy who's fighting against Assad?". And then that ended and then they go, "No, we got to take down Assad." And. it's like, "You can really seem like you.

guys want to go into Syria.". They're looking for any sort of excuse. >> It's all crazy. >> I don't politics is stupid. Let's move. on. >> This is gross. >> It's like a It's like a. >> It is gross. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, your perspective is probably the. healthiest. Stay out of it. >> Stay out of it. >> Leave me alone. [ __ ] you. Live my life. But the thing is like some of it does. affect your life. Like this psychedelic drugs thing. >> Okay. So in that moment where you got. [ __ ]. maybe hopefully shrooms legalized, you.

know, in an ideal world is a very. [clears throat] rare case of someone who. can actually accomplish change. And. you're at a very higher level than most. people in terms of influence. both personally and like broadly. >> But also the the individual, like him. Like most people wouldn't do it that. way. Like if I was friends with Obama, there's not a [ __ ] chance in hell I. could have gone to Obama and say, "Hey. dude, you know what would be cool? If. you got Ibogaine legalized, it would. keep all these people that are addicted. to" He could have done that decades ago.

Everyone could have done that. They've. known about Ibogaine forever. And. they've also known about the pill crisis. forever. So, all this stuff was common. knowledge amongst plenty of people. >> Yeah. I mean John Hopkins has been doing. these studies. >> John Hopkins has a playlist for shrooms. and MDMA. They They make a playlist for. you. >> They do? >> That you can like this is a good MDMA or. shrooms I forget which one shrooms. playlist. >> Is it like John Hopkins like sanctioned. it or is someone who. >> Yeah, no. Someone who works at No, no, no. A professor or something like that. in the research they're doing.

In the psilocybin research. It was all. psilocybin, right? And not. >> I think yeah. Hopkins was psilo- John. Hopkins was all psilocybin. >> Yeah, they all like kind of led the way. They have a playlist so you can you can. get it's on Spotify or whatever. >> Well, these people have been aware of it. for so long, you know? Inside the John. Hopkins psilocybin playlist. Wow. This. is 2020. >> Dude, I'm always amazed when my memory. turns out to not be false. >> Look at that guy. He looks like he's. tripping. He looks like he trips. He's. like an old dude who's tripped balls. >> people. >> smile. That guy. That guy's not working for an insurance.

company. >> Loosening his tie. >> Yeah. Bill Richards look how he's. tripped. Psychologist and researcher. They should put researcher in quotes. >> Psychologist, researcher, and former. deadhead. Yeah. >> I think of it as non-verbal a non-verbal. support system. Sort of like a net for a. trapeze artist. If all's going well, you're not even aware the net is there. You don't even hear the music. But if. you start getting anxious or if you need. it, it's immediately there to provide a. structure. Oh, Bill, you trip hard.

>> When I was doing ayahuasca, this guy was. like the shaman guy was like beating a. drum very lightly. And then when you. come out of it, whatever, the slow like. boom. boom. it would kind of like pull you back into. it. >> Mhm. Mhm. 7-hour 40-minute playlist. Boy, those guys go hard. >> sure. Put that on loop. >> Symphony of sorrowful songs. Hey, don't. do that. >> [laughter]. >> Don't give me sorrowful songs while I'm. tripping. >> You're trying to have a bad time. >> Yeah, I want to hear I want to hear. beautiful music.

>> No, not grandma. >> [laughter and gasps]. >> People always ask me about mushrooms. like is it going to be this emotional. like like spiritual thing? I'm like. that's get that gets hyped more. You're. going to laugh with your friends. >> Yeah. >> That's the main thing. >> There's going to be I mean it depends on. the dose, right? Like a heavy dose will bring you to a. very strange place. >> Dude, I had a. I had my best mushroom trip of all time. on this trip. >> Yeah? >> Yeah. >> Of all time? >> Yeah, maybe. Maybe maybe the first one. >> The Muhammad Ali of mushroom trips. >> Yeah, it wasn't like it was crazy hard.

It was just they were fresh. And it was just like the thoughts and it. was in a just some places where nobody. really gave a [ __ ] so you didn't feel. like you're like a drug addict. >> Mhm. >> And just like yeah, just seeing. everything so clear. God, mushrooms [ __ ] rule. You just. see everything so clear. It kills the. you in your brain. >> It kills the [ __ ] part. >> Yeah, and so you go like look at this. behavior and it's it's same as analyzing. someone else's behavior or your own. They're just same. >> That's a part of one of the problems. that comes with living a stressful life.

is you get really wrapped up in. yourself. Like you're managing yourself, you're managing your thoughts, you're. managing your whatever you're trying to. do. And then you think so much about you. that a thing like that can take you out. of that and you go oh, what am I wasting. my thoughts on this for? Why am I. wasting my energy on this? It's so. pointless. It's not helping me at all. >> And you see people and saw my father for. like who he really is now just like a. loving caring granddad and you're like. what a [ __ ] cool guy that I always. saw as like this guy I grew up with. And.

then just like man. Yeah, and just like realizing like I'm. doing the same stuff he did. Like going, you know, starting a new life. He did the same [ __ ] coming to America. and it's like wow, what a. You look at it separately from your. father. Like that's a cool guy. >> You talked about having your father come. on this podcast to talk about his. experience as a Holocaust survivor. >> He would. He would probably. >> is he now? >> He's about to be 90. >> Wow. >> Still with it though. He's not like a. feeble. >> That's awesome. Would he do it?

>> He would do it. He loves getting the. word out. >> How old was he when he was in the camps? >> Young. Single digits. >> Wow. >> Um and maybe up to I think maybe. released at 12. Yeah, he would do it. He would love it. because he works at the Holocaust. Memorial as a docent or something and. >> He has a tattoo and everything. Does he have a tattoo? >> I don't think so. >> No. >> He wasn't in a death camp. He was in a. work camp. His I believe this is all. [ __ ] I believe his my grandfather, his. dad was in was liberated from a death.

camp. But yeah, you should talk to him. He. would actually love it. He loves getting. the word out. I've seen him make. speeches before and there's all these. inner city kids from like Kansas City. You know, and then when they hear him. talk it's just this moment you realize. like. oh, this isn't a story. This is like. >> his life. >> Yeah, it's a real thing. Like Attila the. Hun, you're like that seems like a. fictional character. cuz they're so removed from it and this. is just at the borderline of that. Dude, he would he would yeah, you should do. it. >> I would do it. I'd love to have him on. Talk to him. It's. it's a weird time with. >> weird time.

>> with. anything that has anything to do with. people being Jewish because. they conflate Jewish people with the. Israeli government, the Netanyahu. government and what they're doing in. Gaza and what they're doing all other. places. And it's also it's like it's a. weird time now where people people are. enjoying questioning the numbers of. people that died in the Holocaust. >> It's the internet. >> Yeah. >> [ __ ] Just kind of like. >> But just like but there is some. weirdness to it. and one of the. weirdness to it is like there's some. photos of like Auschwitz and a lot of.

these other that they took after the. camps were liberated and they had people. go there and they took photos of them. lot like pretending that these people. were at the camps and they weren't. They. were done after the fact. But there's also tons of videos of. Yeah, it's that's where it's weird. But. it's 600 people be like right. Well, it's it's clearly there was a lot of. people. It was.

I don't know what the number is. But if. it was. 6 million or if it was 1 million or 3. million that's like to catch people like. no no no you you guys said it was six. like and then the thing is like. But there's people that are like equally. sure that it was 6 million and then. there's people that are equally sure. that it was like 300,000 or 600,000 or. whatever the [ __ ] they think it was and.

it's like this weird argument back and. forth. >> you have to see how many Jews were in. Europe before and after and there would. be more. It's funny you see like if you. have a stat like that like separated. from this. like in a as in Peru. we're hiking much to Machu Picchu. You know Neil. >> Oh, we got to talk about that. >> And and uh. and they're like it's [ __ ] pouring. rain and everybody there they're not. liberal or conservative. They just go it's been raining earlier. than it should be. And they don't know about the word.

climate change. They just go we're told. November 1st is when you plant after. that you're in a risk. Now this is. mid-October and I don't I don't know. what's up. >> Well, there's going to be climate change. whether human beings are here or not. That's the reality of the earth. The. earth's temperature and climate has. never been static and the real problem. with climate change is not recognizing. that human beings are having an adverse. effect on the planet cuz we certainly. are in terms of pollution and. particulate release. But that people like Al Gore and a lot.

of these [ __ ] these greenies, they're. profiting off of this concept of climate. change and then also using it to clamp. down on people's rights. >> There's that too. Like we talked about. people taking money from a good cause. >> Exactly. >> For every good thing, they'll be like. somebody's going to misuse it. >> 100% for every good thing. But then it. becomes a thing where like, you know, when I had Bernie Sanders on the. podcast, he was like talking about how. it's like and I said to him I go, "Problem with climate change is.

not just that the climate is changing. cuz it always has, but that people are having an effect on. it cuz they definitely are. But it's. that there's a lot of money in this. whole concept of climate change. >> that was never done. >> Go around landfills. It's all landfills. >> better than nothing." Like, "No, it's. equal to nothing.". >> Well, it's not like that, but you. [ __ ] made people feel like they were. doing good by throwing their [ __ ]. water bottles in the blue thing. >> It's just It's just It's all kind of. crazy, but. >> We're gross.

>> Yeah. >> People are gross. >> But it was cool to see people's. perspectives that were like away from. political and just their observations. about stuff. >> that things change. >> Yeah. And like. >> Sub-Saharan Africa used to be lush green. lands. I mean, they find they find whale. bones in Sub-Saharan Africa in the. desert. In the desert, they find whale. skeletons in the desert way before there. were cars. >> Right. >> Okay? Way before there were plastic and. power plants. So, the the Earth's.

climate has never been static. But. the the the the Machu Picchu thing is I. I really want to go there. Um my friend. Luke Caverns, he's been on the podcast. before. He's he's studied. >> He's been three times. >> Has he really? >> But as a kid, that's what I meant like. so they're. Yeah, so they're like, "Ah, it's a. 1-hour flight from Lima.". >> Mhm. >> And then just take the train, but like. Yeah, it's it's it's pretty wild. So, you're saying it wasn't even the Aztecs? Is that what you told me? >> Well, that's yeah, that's the Incas. >> Okay, Incas, Incas, Incas. >> Yeah, it wasn't they they don't think it.

was. They think the initial monolithic. structures were or megalithic structures. were an earlier previously unknown. civilization because the. the size and scope of their structures, the way they built it, and Graham. Hancock has gone over this as well, is. so much different than the stuff that's. on top of it. So, what happens is you. have this old stuff that's enormous. stones that are cut like jigsaws, right? >> Yeah. >> And almost like it's melted, like the.

way it looks, it almost like it's. >> a piece of paper through it after 200. years of of like breakdowns. You still. can't put a piece. >> years. It's thousands of years. But, the. thing that's really nutty about it is. that design is because when they have. earthquakes, that way it won't fall off. Right? It disperses the energy better as. opposed to just stacking stuff on top of. each other. That stuff falls, but when. it's all interlocked in these weird. forms, like that [ __ ]. >> That, yeah. So, Che Guevara talks about. it a little bit where he goes, "So, every Cusco is the gem of of South.

America. It was the it was the border of. of the Andes where people would come in. and do trade and everything. And you see. this and the the the Christians would. come in, take over, and build like. facades on it and put a cross on top to. be like, 'Look what we did. We're more. dominant than these people.' And then an. earthquake would come, the facade would. fall, and this would just remain.". >> over and over and over again. >> These aren't even squares. Look at that. It's like an It's like Tetris. >> Yeah, it's so cool. And that was on. purpose. They did that because that what. what would survive. But, if you look at. the stuff above it, that's the stuff.

that the Incas made. So, the Incas made. this stuff that's like it's all just. stacked. It's not as sophisticated and. also not as large cuz they didn't have. the technology. Whatever the [ __ ] these. people had. >> Look at that. Look at big that rock is. >> huge. >> I mean, hundreds and thousands of tons. I mean, these things are [ __ ]. enormous. The really crazy one is the. Lebanon ones. In Lebanon. >> I've been there. Wait, no. I'm Jordan. Jordan I'm talking about is the. >> So, in Lebanon, they have these massive. stone What are they called, Jamie? The.

trilithon stones? So, there's these stones that are like. more than a thousand tons. And they're. like several meters above the ground. placed. And then on top of them, you. have these Roman structures. >> Oh, right. >> So, if you see like there like that. click that where you had your cursor? >> Town. >> Yeah. Look at the size of that guy. >> Wow. >> And look at the size of that stone. Like and then you see the stuff on top. of it is smaller. It's not as. sophisticated. And then you have the.

Roman Now, the thing about the Romans is. Romans had meticulous record keeping. And they talked about all the. construction of all the different things. they had. They don't even mention those. stones. >> So, it wasn't. >> mention how they No, I don't think it. was them. I think it was a previous. civilization. Look at that [ __ ]. thing. >> Oh, bro. I'm about to You know Nazca. Lines? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Oh, yeah. >> I saw them. >> Oh, did you? >> Yeah, I flew over them. >> Bro, how weird is that? >> They're so big you can't I don't The. pictures won't do it justice because. you'll see like a road. They didn't know. because from the ground level you can't. see any of it. >> Yeah. >> And so they just build these roads.

through the desert. And so you can see a. car sometimes like so this for. perspective. And you're like it's this. dot on this giant monkey. in the middle of the desert. >> Right. >> For however many hundreds of years. >> Yeah, they don't even know how long. >> They're crazy. >> Weird. >> And they're all like signals to to. something. There's all these theories on. what it is. >> the sky. You have to see them from. above. >> only see them from above. >> That's nuts. >> Pilots would go over there and then. somebody's like, "What's that?" They're. like, "Oh, yeah, we don't know. We just. kind of go over.". >> Well, they found a bunch of them now.

because of AI. You know, they like scan. the areas and found a bunch of. previously undiscovered Nazca Lines. >> Wow. >> Yeah. And the weird thing about it is. that's also the place where they find. these people with the elongated skulls. They find like these weird skulls that. have additional capacity. So, they have. like 30% more capacity and they they. don't have the same lines in their. skulls that we have like when we're. babies. You know, we have these. >> What are they called? >> I forget what the lines are called. Sagittal These lines that we have in our. skull, you know, like your skull's not.

just one piece, right? It's like there's. a bunch of pieces that. >> They used to tie them off so they get. longer as a sign of like. >> Yeah, but some of these skulls don't. have the same structure as ours. They're. human skulls, but they're longer. They. have more capacity. They're 30% larger. capacity and they don't have those lines. that we have. So, it's like what. was that? Were there different kinds of. humans back then? >> They died out? >> Were they Were they flying around? Were.

they flying around and making these. [ __ ] structures? Were they. responsible for Saksaywaman and Machu. Picchu and all these other places? And. they just died off and all we have left. is like some skulls that we can't. totally explain? >> We don't have the means to explain it. >> Right, because if if it was 20,000 years. ago or 30,000 years ago or whatever it. was that these people were ruling back. then, what would be left? [ __ ]. nothing. Nothing. Very little. >> I mean, you look at Angkor Wat where. it's like Yeah, if you didn't see it,

it's shocking some any of it remained. >> Yeah. Well, Angkor Wat's crazy and how about. that other one in India where the entire. temple's carved out of one stone? >> Or Or the one in in Jordan, the um. Let's see. Where's the [ __ ]. What is those play the Indiana Jones. one? What's that called? That's where I went. with my brother. >> Yeah, what is that called? See What is it, Jimmy? >> Petra. >> Petra. >> It's It's nuts. You come through this. canyon and it's just in a mountain. A. giant three-story. temple that is just They carved out of.

the mountain. It wasn't added to. >> Right. And where's the stone? Where'd. you put Where'd you put the stones? What'd you do? >> That view, coming out of the middle one, coming out of that cavern and seeing it. after about an hour hike. >> That's crazy. >> They don't even You have to see a human. See how small that person is in the. middle? >> That is so crazy. >> like. what? >> Right. Have you ever heard of Derinkuyu? >> No. >> In Turkey? >> Uh-uh. >> This is crazy. You want to hear this. one? >> a place or a person? >> It's It's a place. So, um I think they.

found this because someone was doing. like construction on a house. >> Yeah. >> and they found a path Oh, so this is. what it was. So, a guy kept losing his. chickens. They would go through a hole. and they would never come out. So, this. guy was like, "Well, where the [ __ ] are. these chickens going?" So, they broke. down the wall to figure out where the. chickens go. And they found an underground city that. can hold 20,000. people. >> Turkey? >> With many, many levels. Like many levels.

deep into the ground. >> Wow. >> It's [ __ ] bananas. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I watched a documentary. Now, you see. Wow. Look, you see the way where you uh. could you please go back to that one. image with the houses? Yeah, like that. Like so, this guy. it was like behind a [ __ ] wall in a. house. So, these chickens would go into the. hole and it would They would just.

disappear. So, he's like, "Where's my. [ __ ] chickens?" So, the guy starts. digging around to try to figure out. where the chickens go and they found. this. And I want to say they found this in. like the 20th century. Like so. >> Uh 20 I think it was the 20s I just saw. >> 1920s? >> Like '29, maybe. >> Wow. So, no They forgot about it? >> about it. Nobody knew who made it. There. was no record of it. >> And it it's it can It can house. >> It can house 20,000 people in there. >> What was. >> for? >> No one knows. >> Right. >> No one knows when, no one knows who, no.

one knows nothing. There's other ones. they found in China. They found this. [ __ ] insane one in China that also. has no records. It's enormous. Like enormous caverns with giant. columns. It's all carved out of the. stone. They They moved millions of tons. of rocks out of there. No record. No one. knows where the stone went. >> I was staying with the Lacandons. Mayans, whatever. And uh we were on a. hike and there was this little like. abandoned temple just the size of this. room.

And so the guide was like so now there's. a tunnel in here to like the main. temple. It's about a mile and a half. away and there's a tunnel where you can. go through it. It takes a couple hours. to walk. >> [ __ ] off. >> And he goes he goes my brother went he. goes I'll never go back. It's so. frightening and there's [ __ ] pumas. around and you don't know. >> Pumas in the tunnel? >> Yeah, you're like you can't see [ __ ] He. goes it's a bad place but it's this long. underground tunnel that was made however. long it was. What the [ __ ]. >> This is the one in China. >> This is one of the caves. >> So this is one of the these caves in. China. By the way, no record. No. historical record of when it was created.

or who created it. >> I put up oil. 23 8. >> And this is another one that they found. In 1992 they found it. Four farmers in. Longyou found the caves and they drained. the water from five small ponds in their. village. The ponds turned out to be five. large man-made caverns. Further. investigation revealed 19 more caverns. nearby. They've been determined to be. more than 2,000 years old. And their. construction is not recorded in any. historical documents. Like look how. crazy Please show some of those images.

>> Yeah, this is the only one on this page. Uh. >> It's [ __ ] bananas. So they're just. guessing that it's 2,000 years old. They. don't know. >> Right right. They're just like. >> Cuz there's no record. There's no record. of it. But it's bananas. And they've also those carvings they. think are uh post later people. >> Yeah. Came in and what post. >> discovery. >> That That's their way of doing um. >> Yeah. Because you see how like those. lines on the walls? That's how. everything looks. It's just those carved. straight lines and it looks like the. other stuff was like more modern that.

they carved it. >> are so that it the erosion wouldn't hurt. it as much? >> I don't know. I mean, that might have. been how they did it. They might have. had some sort of a device that they. carved the stone out with. But the thing. is it's like. These are. >> Where is this on a map? Show me where. where Long You is on a map. I want to visit a lot of China. >> Ooh. >> There's some a lot of places in there. that I'm like. >> Don't know about. >> China is a big ass place. >> Back back out. Back out. China is so big. >> Long You Caverns. >> Keep going back. >> Do do do. >> Whoa. Keep going back. Let me see the. context.

>> Do do do. Oh my god. >> Oh, that's pretty deep in there. >> Yeah. >> Good luck. >> Good luck. It's near Wuhan. Look. >> Yeah. >> Take a train to Wuhan. Catch a catch a. bug. >> Yeah. Go eat some armadillo. >> Pangolin. >> Pangolin. >> [laughter]. >> That's how you got leprosy eating. armadillo and pangolin. You're really not supposed to eat those. things. >> Go back to the images, please. The images are nuts, man. It's like what. what were these people doing? Like why. who who made this? >> I love standing in a place like that and. just like you just instantly get. connected to the to the history of it.

>> Could you imagine it's 1992 and you're. just draining a pond? You're a farmer. And then you drain the pond and you go, "Oh, there's like a cave in here. What's. in there?". And you go in and you see this [ __ ]. And no one knows who made it. No And. China, again, China has extensive. historical records cuz China has existed. for thousands and thousands of years. It's one of the few countries that's. essentially been just China for 5,000. plus years.

Bananas, man. >> Aquarium for real dragons. >> [laughter]. >> They had to keep it somewhere. >> Well, I mean, who made it and how did. they make it? Like how did they do that? >> For what purpose? How did they make that 2,000 plus years? And by saying 2,000 is like you're just. >> 2,000 means So there's a there's a Joan. Didion or a piece on on El Salvador. from a long time ago. And she goes, "They don't use numbers the way we use.

numbers. They say 50, it means a bunch.". >> Oh, like 72 virgins. >> Yeah, it means just a bunch of. an amount. Yeah. >> Like bro, he he went there a million. times. >> Tons of tons of Like what is a ton? That's. >> Oh, bro, I smoked tons of joints. >> Yeah. >> That's not possible. Yeah. >> So Perplexity, our AI sponsor, says no. one knows for certain who created the. Longyou Caves. Archaeologists agree. they're man-made and probably over 2,000. years old, but there's no record of. their builders or patrons. That's crazy, dude.

That is so crazy. Oh, pottery and other. finds inside date roughly to the late. Qin or Western Han period, around 200. BCE, suggesting they were excavated at. or before that time. >> But the thing is that pottery. >> But that pottery could have been someone. who just left pottery later. Like It's. like if you leave behind a cell phone in. Egypt and 5,000 years from now people. say, "Oh, well, this is an iPhone 16. This must be from. >> means it has to be at least that old or. older. >> Yeah, at least that old or older. So. it's at least 2,000 plus years old. But.

how crazy is it that there's no known. records? >> Should go in quick and just bury some. like [ __ ] from a long time ago. Get some. artifacts and just leave it in there. >> How much [ __ ] like that is still out. there in other parts of the world where. they don't know about? >> like the tunnel that the that the Mayan. guy said. He was like, "Yeah, no one. knows No one knows Here goes me and my. my friends know about it.". >> [ __ ]. >> So it's just like everywhere. >> Well, we were talking about the Aztecs. about how the Aztecs and this is another. thing that I found out through. Perplexity when I was just I was writing. this thing about Mexico and about how.

crazy the history of Mexico is. And you know, that the Spaniards came. over with essentially like 12 muskets. and took over the whole country. But when they when the Aztecs. were living in these temples, they. didn't build them. They called them the. place where the gods were born. So, they. found them. So, there's a previous. civilization that like Teotihuacan. Teochitlan and all these other. beautiful pyramids and temples, they. don't know who [ __ ] made them, man. >> Okay.

>> So, they don't know who made them. >> That cave in Vietnam was found in 1991. >> Oh, I saw the 60 Minutes thing on that. Did you see that? >> Look at that. >> That dude from 60 Minutes, like a dude. and a lady from 60 Minutes went and. visited this cave. And I was like, that. >> Looks haunted as [ __ ]. >> one cool thing about something like 60. Minutes that they would do something. like that cuz it's a long journey. >> Wow. >> to fly in, drive a long distance, then. hike a long distance. >> aren't any nothing's there. >> You could fit skyscrapers inside of.

these caves. They have their own. ecosystems. Like there's clouds in. there. It probably [ __ ] rains inside the. cave. >> There's insects, there's animals that. live in these caves that have over time. lost their ability to see cuz they. didn't need it. So, their their hearing. goes up, their sight goes down. There's. like bugs in like Thailand and like. Sapong and places like that where it's. like, oh yeah, these places these these. animals only exist here. >> They hear you breathing. They hear you. >> in Barton Creek Springs. It's a. >> Yeah, a special salamander. Yeah. >> Really? It only lives there? >> salamander that got mixed with.

weird people swimming in the creek, yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh, wow. >> Yeah, it only survives on chicks with. arm hair. >> [laughter]. >> It's only able to survive here. It only. has. >> the menstrual cycles. Yeah, I was doing Bottom of the Barrel. last night and somebody brought up that. there's like there's nude beaches at. Lake Travis. And I'm like, what is it like? And. they're like, >> No, no. >> No, no, no. >> Barton's topless. >> Yeah, you know, when you take a Well, maybe, but yeah. When you take one of. those boat rides out, >> Chicks they show their. >> Bro, it's nice. >> Nice? >> Yeah. >> Nice? >> It's nice. >> Hippy tits?

>> Hippy some of them are gross hippy tits, but some of them are like real tits, [laughter] dude. >> Real ones? >> Influencers go there, too. >> Oh, like girls have done too much. ayahuasca and they wear wooden beads and. they want their tits out. >> Dude, so I was in I was in a Patagonia. where I was a. >> Giddy Hollow Park. >> 4.6 stars. That's a lot. >> I was asking people it was a it was a. rafting thing and I was like who's the. worst? I always try to do this. especially at comedy clubs too. Who's. the worst person you've ever had here? >> Right. >> So they were like which country, which. people are the worst? And they go I. don't know. I'm like listen, I'm from. Jews so you can it's Jews, right? And. they go I mean they want freebies for.

sure. But like uh. I was trying [snorts] to get which which. country's worst? And they go well the. worst. overall though is influencers. And they have no country, but they make. everything about them. They make you. pause too long to take their shots. They. make you get out of their shot. >> Oh, yeah. >> just trying to raft. They think they're. there for them. >> Yeah. Ugh. >> Ugh. >> One of the influencers got arrested in. Korea. Johnny Somali. Do you know who that guy. is? He was in Korea and apparently they have. some statue that is about.

>> [sighs]. >> I think it's something about sex. slavery, something like that. So he was. like kissing the statue and being rude. to people and they just sentenced him to. He did a bunch of [ __ ] over there. They. sentenced him to 6 months of hard labor. in Korea. >> We need some of that here for. influencers. >> Mhm. >> Quit doing [ __ ] selfie talking on the. while you're walking. You know a black lady, you don't get to. talk to your phone. >> [laughter]. >> Black ladies get to talk to their phone. >> love speaker phone. >> Why do they love that?

>> I don't know. It's black ladies like not. anti. And it's like. >> Why do you think they like that? >> Why do they like it? They want everyone. to hear their conversation. Maybe cuz. their [ __ ] nails will cut up their. face if they bring it too close. >> [laughter]. >> I'm just thinking of possible reasons. >> It is a weird where like certain. cultures gravitate towards certain. behavior and activities. >> It's new racism. It's fun cuz it's like. this isn't in the books. This is a a. brand new observation. >> Speaker phone is like I remember being. outside of Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles.

and saying like how many how come so. many black guys are on speaker phone? And people like that's racist. I'm like. no it's not. >> an observation. >> Observing. >> Yeah, I'm not mad at them. >> Yeah, I don't care. >> why. >> Like why is it worse that I hear both. sides of the conversation versus one. side? Like if someone's just talking on. the phone, why is that. less offensive than someone talking on a. speaker phone? >> why do the Hassidic Jews always talk on. flip phones all the time? And you're. like there's something up or what? Yeah, there's some where it's like why do the.

people used to ask me that when I would. do Q&A's when I'm doing the Jew hour. building it. So they'd ask questions. during the check drops. I'd be like ask. questions and I'll build my material. that way. >> Oh, that's smart. >> But one of them was like why do they all. wear matching clothes at daughters? Or. like if they're one's 10, one's eight, why do they wear matching stuff? That's. the only one I couldn't figure out until. I finally figured it out. It's uh two. for one sales. >> United threatens to kick off passengers. who don't use headphones. >> Oh, well that's because people are like. listening to like loud YouTube videos. right next to.

>> Bro, all over South America. >> Oh, really? >> It is scroll Instagram videos loudly. There's no even thought we were on an. overnight bus once and there was a guy. listening to like best Hollywood. screams. And it was like dude, we're sleeping. >> Oh god. >> It's It's crazy. They just don't do it. and you want to be like be quiet but. they're like why? It's not part of our. culture. >> the Dominican pool hall. >> Yeah, exactly. This is how we do it. >> That is used to all chaos. It is weird that like people get used to. a certain amount of chaos. You know?

>> And that's just normal. >> Yeah. >> New York is a normal jackhammer select. nothing. >> Yeah, if you live in New York, you're. totally accustomed to that. Oh, that was. what I wanted to send you Jamie. I don't. know, maybe I did send it to you the. other day about where they figured out. that there's a part of your brain that. recognizes when birds aren't chirping. >> Ooh. >> And you you kind of freak out. Like your. brain. >> be some background noise. >> Right. Well, if birds aren't chirping, it generally means that predators are. nearby. >> Got it.

Your brain has a circuit doesn't know. you live in a city. It's only job is to. monitor whether birds are still singing. >> Right now in this room it's on. The. circuit predates primates. Whoa. Mammals. have been using ambient soundscape. continually as a predator detection. system for roughly 200 million years. Birds stop singing when something larger. moves through their territory. For most. of the mammalian history the forest full. of song meant that no large predator was. nearby and the cessation of sound was. the warning. Your nervous system never.

updated the software. >> quiet and you're like something's up. >> The Max Planck Institute tested the. inverse in 2022. with 295 participants. 6 minutes of. birdsong dropped anxiety with a medium. effect size. 6 minutes of traffic noise. raised depression with the same. The. effect worked on subjects who lived in. dense urban environments and had no. regular contact with nature. The brain. still ran the check.

>> I Listen, I'm I'm a hippie. I live in. New York and it's like I got to get to. nature once in a while or I'll go crazy. >> That's why we have to protect the parks. >> That's why we still have to protect the. parks. >> We have to. Tomorrow. Tomorrow we're. protecting the park. >> Tomorrow we are. >> Yes. It's back. >> [ __ ] this new guy. Listen, I'm a one. issue voter. I'm not a voter at all. But. if I was Yeah. And it's it's this we. saved another park, Elizabeth Street. Garden. Classic old park and they go no, the. other guy was like, we got to tear this. down for low-income housing. And then.

Lower side and East Village, that's a. community oriented place. They take care. of [ __ ] on their own. Always have. They. made the park It's a parks district. because they were like these buildings. collapsed and they're just like let's. build it into parks. And then the city. when it came back they're like let's. take those back. They're like no, no, no, [ __ ] that. We made these. East River Park is massive. But. Elizabeth Street Garden is tiny. And the other guy, the black guy, whatever his name was. >> [laughter]. >> What was his name? Eric Adams. He goes, "I'm going to protect that park, and I'm.

going to protect all the park Parks got. nicer. They they redid them all, and. they painted all the benches. I like. them. And um. And he goes, "Okay." So, this community. goes, "We will find you another place to. build low-income housing." And they did. They had this whole platform. They go, "We can do it on this block, down the. street there and there. It's actually. more houses than you were planning on. building." Okay. And now this [ __ ]. new guy goes, "Now we're we're we're. going to raze that to the ground.". >> What? >> And they're like, "No, no, we did it. We. found another place.". >> I thought he was for the people. >> trying to get him to like just say.

you're going to protect it. And he's. pretty much like, "I won't. I won't. Elizabeth Street Gardens is. [ __ ] gone if I have my say.". >> Really? >> Yeah, and they're like, "Dude, come on. You're supposed to be of the people.". What See, I'm single-issue voter. I. don't know about the rest. You got to. protect that park. >> So, do you think that there's some sort. of a financial interest that someone's. >> Someone's getting Someone's always. getting this. Someone's always getting. that. >> But, you would not think it would be. him. He's a democratic socialist. >> You There's a non-capitalist reason why.

green spaces are important. >> Yeah. >> It doesn't bring in money. >> They tried to [ __ ] up with this one. >> They tried to [ __ ] this one up. >> Zucker? >> Yeah, with underground like garages and. stuff and like totally redoing it. >> Ew. >> The people won. So, it didn't happen. But, like there is. a thing that helps all of our. level of life, level of joy. >> Park is a genius idea. >> They would never do that now if it. wasn't already done. >> I would We were talking about this with. Brian Simpson. I was like, if I lived in. New York City like if something happened. and I had to do JRE from New York City,

I would have to live near the park cuz I. would have to have my dog. I'm not going. to get rid of my dog. So, if I I'd have. to take him I I just have to like have a. place where I 100% were able to take I'd. have a routine where I'm taking him to. the park every day. >> Central Park rules. And you just. somebody playing saxophone, and you feel. like you're in a Woody Allen movie. >> Bro, Central Park's incredible. It's so. big, too. When you stay in a hotel that. like looks over the park, you really get. a sense of the scope, the the size of. it. >> Fly over it. >> of it is incredible. It's It's so And by.

the way, they would love to sell that. off. >> Oh, yeah. >> And just start stacking it up. Make it. look like China, you know, like one of. those big cities that they have over. there. >> They are important to our way of life. >> Yeah. It's good for your dome, obviously. It's good for the [ __ ] mind. >> Yeah. >> It's healthy. But even Central Park, it's like it's not as good as like real. wilderness. >> Real, yeah. >> Real wilderness. Central Park will buy. me 2 days of sanity. I got to get to the. actual woods, and then I get a week or. two. >> Central Park will balance you out. It'll. balance you out. Like it's way better.

than no And it seems like people are. cooler there. Like every time I've been. in Central Park, people seem like a. little nicer. Like Like if you run into people on. Broadway, they don't seem as nice as. people that you run into in Central. Park. >> Yeah, it's not as full. >> Yeah. >> It's also that thing where they're like, "Hey, no smoking in here." Like, "I'm. really sorry." And then you put it out. and you're like, "I'm lighting it up as. soon as you're gone." But like. >> You can't smoke in Central Park? >> Nothing. >> Really? >> You do, but weed, but cigarettes they. get more mad at. >> [snorts]. >> But also like, yeah, if I got a cigar. and I'm with a friend, I'm smoking.

>> Yeah, well, I could see how that would. annoy people. >> Sure, but also chill. >> But you can walk down the street in New. York and smoke a cigarette, right? >> Or joint, yeah. >> Right. >> Yeah. Still weird to me when I see a. black guy on a stoop rolling a joint, and I'm like, "What are you doing?". >> It's legal. >> go to jail. But it's like, "I know, it's. totally legal.". >> Well, now it's different nationwide, cuz. Trump just changed it to schedule three. Again, this is something that Obama. could have done, Biden could have done, Clinton could have done. >> Trump won could have done it. Yeah, and. now it's schedule three, which is still.

not good. I mean, it should be just like. alcohol, but at least it's getting. close. It's getting close. >> Dude, I had moments out there in of. nature where like you're in the middle. of nowhere, and you really do feel. rejuvenated like that. Where you're like. you're not even It's not even hiking. culture. So it's like you're not passing. anyone. >> Right. >> For hours and hours and hours. >> You're at peace. >> You're just at peace. >> And whatever that thing is that they've. just discovered about birds, there's a. similar thing that you your body. recognizes when you're actually in real.

nature. It feels different. There's no. cell phone signal. >> The ground You know anything about. grounding? >> Yes. >> What What's your What's your take on it? >> Well, Huberman believes it's a real. thing. And so I always trust Huberman. cuz he's very objective about all this. stuff. >> Electromagnetic waves coming off the. ground that you need to get in touch. with? >> It does feel good. When I take the dogs. out in the yard and I walk around. barefoot, it feels good. I mean, I'm just judging it based on how. it makes me feel. >> It's like that word tree hugger got a. bad rap, but it's like it comes from. like touch that they're in the ground so.

you're connected to the ground. >> Probably comes from people that were. tripping balls. Cuz if you're tripping. balls, those trees hug you back. >> there. Yeah. >> Those trees hug you back. They talk to. you. They're like, "Put your face on. it.". >> Hello, Harry. >> You can feel the cells. >> I'm an oak tree. I've been here for 300 years. I've been. here before this was America. >> Yeah, it's pretty wild. >> When I go to the mountains, when. especially like the elk hunting. mountains because it's so it's so hard. to get there. And when you get there. there's no cell phone service. And when.

you're up there, you feel different. You. just feel. >> You feel better. >> You really do. >> Feel more relaxed. >> brain was firing in a way that it hadn't. fired in so long. It was just like all the the [ __ ]. holding you down just like pulled off. >> Mhm. >> And after not very much time, it was. like. just thoughts, creative thoughts were. just like pouring out of me. >> So you when the 6 months you were gone, no um social media, no. >> media. I took I took YMH's on a piece of.

paper, a couple people from YMH's um. emails. I got 2 months ahead on my ads. and my podcast on You Be Tripping. So. I'm like, you guys are set for 2 months. You don't need me. And then after. >> So did you record a bunch of episodes in. advance to release them? >> I did my work. >> Oh my god, that's crazy. >> Yeah, they're all evergreen episodes. >> How did you do that? >> Work I. one worked hard, two loved hearing about. travel. I love it. >> Right.

>> I it wasn't much work for me to come in. and be like, "Tell me about Cambodia. Tell me about Thailand. Tell me about. Taiwan. Tell me about. >> Right. >> you know, Uruguay.". >> Well, that's how I feel about podcasting. in general. >> Yeah, you like it. You'll have here or. there like this guy was sucked. I wish I. should have stayed home, but generally. like that's really interesting. >> Yeah. >> So I love it and I just got. way ahead. It's funny when I like Danny. Polishchuk I put out an episode it goes, "Did we do that like 2 years ago?" I'm. [laughter] like, "I wasn't time yet. I. don't know.". >> Oh, wow. >> it for if a comic has a special like, "Let's just record it now in 9 months. you'll have a special." I'll put it out. then. >> do you have banked?

>> Through July still. >> Woah. >> Yeah. >> That's crazy. So how many did you do a. week? >> Sometimes none. Sometimes. >> [laughter]. >> Sometimes like six or seven. I was very. on You Be Tripping, dude, I was I I see. every mistake I made for the Skeptic. Tank and I was like, "Let's avoid that.". >> Like what kind of mistakes were you. making? >> So like minimum of effort on my part. technologically. So I YMH is my Jamie. >> Right, right, right. >> Here's the footage. Handle. >> By the way, settle down cuz they're not. >> They're my version of Jamie. >> This is the only This is the goat.

>> Well, I have 15 people doing one Jamie. job. >> Yeah. That's the problem. Like when. people talk about like, "Who should I. hire?" I'm like, >> Well, I have one guy. >> I don't know what to tell you. You need. a guy on the spectrum. >> But yeah, but I did I did that. I just. kept recording. And sometimes I'd be. like, "Do two a day for four straight. days." And any comic who goes, "Hey, I'm. sorry, I'm busy." I'm like, "Buddy, let's reschedule. This isn't supposed to. be stressful.". >> Right. >> Let's do it when you have time. There's. no. >> Yeah. >> chill. No big deal. >> That's the way to do it. >> And when you're ahead you can afford a. week with nothing and it wasn't like, "I.

got to find someone. We got to do this. now. Yeah, that's out. >> Yeah. >> That's out. All the music choices I used. to make, I'm like, that's a lot of work. for. >> Yeah. Well, the music thing is the. problem is like, you get flagged now. Should be good. We used We used to be. able to play music on YouTube all the. time. And now, everything gets flagged. You got to be real careful. We used to. play songs almost every episode back. >> Full song. >> Yeah. When there was nothing, when when. the show made zero money, and. >> west. It was so fun. You're actually. making a fun thing. It was so outlaw. It's a little more corporate now, which.

is sad, but also fine. It helps people a. lot more now. But, man, podcasting was just do whatever the. [ __ ] you want. >> Well, we were at the early early days. Like, when I started this thing, it was. 2009. It's almost 20 years old. >> Which is so nuts. >> Have you figured out a way to monetize. it yet? >> Not yet. I'm working on it. I was I. think I'm going to sell rubber [ __ ]. >> [laughter]. >> You were for a bit. >> Yeah. >> You were for a bit. >> And you're like, that was my first. sponsor. >> only sponsor. I don't need another one. We're good.

>> It was funny cuz Sam Harris was like one. of the his requests when he first did my. podcast. He. wouldn't wouldn't let me do an ad for. the fleshlight. >> [laughter]. >> I said, okay. Okay, it doesn't matter. Like, it's not like it's paying a lot of. money. It was just fun more than. anything. >> Yeah, but so I would I would wait So, after 2 months, I go, "Hey, um. I need the next month's of ads." And I. would take one day, I would just do all. the ads and the bumpers, like, this. guy's got a new special. Here's his tour. dates. I'd find a waterfall or something, and. I'd do it in a fun place.

>> Oh, wow. >> just like, let's do it fun. If I'm going. to do remote, let's be remote. >> Yeah. >> Um. >> How did you do it? Do you do it video as. well? >> Yeah, iPhone. >> So, just. >> me this a long time ago. My first trip. to South Southeast Asia. I was like, "Hey, I need a pocket camera. Like, what's the best" And he was like, "Bro, you're not going to want to hear this. It's the iPhone.". >> Yeah. >> one. >> Or a Galaxy. Like, any modern cell. phone. >> but yeah. >> Any modern cell phone, the video is. [ __ ] incredible. And all you need is. like yeah. >> Yeah, the video stabilization is. amazing. And all you do is you set it up.

on a little tripod and it'll go for. [ __ ] hours. >> Yeah, so I'll I'll I'll put it on a tree. far away. I did one for a Danny Brown. episode in in like Sucre, Bolivia in. front of the statue of Sucre. >> Oh, wow. >> And it's just like. >> were in Bolivia? >> I was everywhere. >> Wow. >> Dude, I was I was saw an inauguration. for the first president they had in 20. years. >> Where? >> In Sucre, in Bolivia. >> Whoa. >> They had their old guy. >> running things for 20 years? >> Okay, a crazy dude that everyone hated. He said farming is more important than.

industry here. So, we should give the farmers two votes. per person. And the cities get one. Now, they also run the media there. So, everyone in the in the farmlands in the. in the you know, the heartland, they. didn't see any of the problems. >> Right. >> city [ __ ] So, they'll go, "I don't. know. Everything on the radio says the. guy's doing a great job. Let's vote him. in again. He's doing great. I I listen. to the radio. The guy's doing a great. job." And everyone in the city is like, "No, no. He's lying.". >> [laughter].

>> So, everything went to [ __ ]. >> 20 years. Like, well, let's turn on the. radio again. Let's turn on like Trump. Trump news and see what it what Trump is. saying about Trump. It's like it's going. to be pretty good. >> Right. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. There I am. That's. Sucre. >> Oh, wow. >> I pretend to be talking to my cell phone. cuz it's so embarrassing. >> Wow. >> pretend to be talking to my phone, but I. just have a a cordless mic. >> Is Danny still sober? >> Yeah, I think he got back on weed, but. like yeah, he's like he's off the. >> The alcohol was the issue. >> Yeah, it's all good. >> we did a podcast, he got obliterated.

>> He's he's he's sober. >> Nice. >> Yeah, he's he's he's doing great. >> Bolivia, what is there like there was. always Bolivian marching powder is what. when I was a kid what he people would. call cocaine. >> Interesting. The salt flats were really cool there. >> Yeah? >> Just like miles and miles of salt. fields. >> Ooh. >> Uh oh, there's me and O'Neal in Peru. >> Look at you guys with your stupid hats. on. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, I was just trying to find weird. spots and like, I don't know, let's just. film something. >> you wearing those hats? >> It was Peru. Those are the alpaca hats.

to keep you warm. >> Oh, I went hunting, my first time. hunting, I wore those hats. >> They're great. >> And uh Steve Rinella was saying that's a. very left left wing hat. I'm like, why? >> Why? Why is it left wing? It's warm. >> Yeah, what? >> So, I don't know about your hat. I'm. like, what's wrong with my hat? Leave it. alone, I'm about to kill something. >> Steve, chill. I'm about to murder. something. >> that deer with that [ __ ] my left wing. hat on. >> [laughter]. >> But that's all I would do. I'd just. weigh in once in a while, get my month's. worth of stuff, and then go back to. disappearing. And I'm telling you, buddy, my brain was so alive.

I I would just like. you just don't realize what you're. dealing with responsibility-wise all the. time. And then when you have none, it's like you can just kind of be. yourself. I came up with this whole My. storytelling show's out. I came with. this whole like how to frame it all, how. to do everything. I had a vision of like. this prologue. that I want to bridge the gap. It's. called The End. It's out now. Or you're. at arishaffir.com. >> And then did you film all that with your. mom's house studios as well? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Nice. >> They might be the only group like that.

that's actually good. >> Tom was like, "How much do you have?". I'm like, "I have about 80% of it." He. goes, "I'll put in the rest. I'll supply. all the all the people you need to make. it happen.". Um. and then he's not a network. He's Segura. and he's a [ __ ] dirtbag. So, he's. like, "Say whatever you want. I'm. There's no censoring with Segura, you. know?". >> Well, it's also like Tom has made so. much money that he's out. You know what. I mean? He'll do whatever the [ __ ] he. wants. You can't stop him. He's going to. do whatever he wants now. >> Yeah. >> Oh, nice. Look at all these episodes.

Miss Pat, DeStefano. Look at that. >> Duncan did a great one. >> Nice. >> Bobby Kelly. >> Shane, Bobby Kelly. Big Jay. >> Yeah, we made the show again. >> Nimesh Patel, DeGroot. >> And then this prologue is a it's a it's. something I I had a vision of this on. that mushroom trip. >> Oh, wow. >> About how to frame like what happened to. this not happening and what is this. thing now and how to like go through it. and then then I talked to a bunch of. artists while I was gone and. some made pitches and this guy this guy. William Child, he actually did a Danny. Brown video. He's just.

[ __ ] I don't want to ruin this. >> Where did you film these? >> The Box in New York City. >> Mhm. >> Place where Chappelle would have his. comedian balls. >> get that gay outfit? >> The gay outfit, Joe, is from. Do you remember a show like called This. Is Not Happening? >> Yes. >> I'm completely uh legally unrelated to. this new show. You can say whatever you. want, but I cannot. But um. >> [laughter]. >> That was a comedian telling stories in a. strip club. This is a. strip club with a comedian telling. stories. Um. Um. I The first year they go, "Hey, you got.

to you got to wear the same outfit every. day." And I go, "No, that's fake.". They go, "No, no, but we got to mission. match days, so we got to do it.". >> Oh, why? Does anybody going to tune out. because they see you in a different. outfit? >> it's weird if suddenly you're hosting a. different thing. So, I start wearing. ridiculous suits I made in Hong Kong, you know. >> Oh, yeah. >> And then my final year I had this Indian. outfit picked out that I went and and. and sourced in in LA and and had this. cool Indian outfit. >> now it's cool. I thought it was gay. >> And I saved it for seven [laughter] or. eight years. Like that show got taken.

away from me. I was like, "I'm saving If. I ever do this again, I'm wearing this. [ __ ] outfit out of respect to. to overcoming.". >> Those days were very fascinating. The. the the days where Comedy Central's. trying to force you into doing a Comedy. Central special, but you had a deal with. Netflix. And even though it was. completely legal and contractually legal. for you to do a Comedy Central with. Netflix, Comedy Central was. strong-arming you into doing it on. Comedy Central and canceled your [ __ ]. show.

because you wouldn't do a special with. them. So, you had a successful show on. What People Want to Know How Gross. Hollywood Can Get? >> Yeah. >> Ari had a successful show that was doing. very well on Comedy Central and they. canceled it because he wouldn't do a. comedy special on Comedy Central. >> for my It was one of the early ones. Paid for my own special. >> Uh-huh. >> And then it's like I got to figure out. where it's going. And they go, "It. should be here." And I go, "No. No. I don't think it should.". It was also a double special and it was.

like it needs to be on a streamer more. than a network. And then I was like, "No, I'm going to. Netflix." And yeah, and then they were. like, "Let's go blackmail then." It's. crazy. I get it from. >> their perspective? >> No, I don't. >> They're like, "Hey, we can't be losing. power." And they never really They. always thought it was an open mic. >> But it's it was not losing power because. the reality is that would just bring. more people to the Comedy Central show. >> Netflix back then was so much bigger to. do a special. When I did that 2017. special on Netflix, I was the mayor of New York for like 3. weeks. Everywhere I'd go, I would bike.

at a red light, three people would. recognize you. It was a different time. for specials then. And of course that. was the biggest thing. I'm going to do. that. >> Yeah. Well, this is still pretty big. Netflix. >> It's still pretty big, but not Jew. specials. >> They picked it up. >> Oh, that's right. They picked up Jew. >> Yeah, it's on Netflix right now. >> Nice. But. >> Yeah, and so people ask me with this. show like, "Why don't you go to. Netflix?" Or like I'm like, "Dude, networks. killed me.". >> Not only that. >> I don't want to. I'd rather just go straight to the. people on this one. >> Why do it? It's like there's no reason. to at this point. Especially like Comedy.

Central doesn't even exist anymore. That's what's nuts. >> It was a wild time. You said you would. host for free. Yeah. I was on the phone. with you crying. I was like hearing it. that they're taking away from you guys. >> them I will host it for free." Because. you were going to take out a loan to pay. off all the stuff all the crew. Because. all the crew had signed on for, you. know, X amount of episodes and it was. going to cost them money. And you were. like, "I'm trying to figure out a way to. keep us on the air." I go, "Tell Comedy. Central I will host it for free.". >> You were already.

It was 2017. This podcast was already. going. >> Oh, yeah. It was huge by then. But it. was number one in 2019 is when it first. started being number one, but it was. probably top four. >> You were had pedigree on the show. You. done two stories. One you liked, one you. hated. >> [laughter]. >> But, the one you liked was a great. story. >> That was a great one. >> That's a great story. Dothan, Alabama. >> Yeah. >> Um and I was like, oh, he's part of the. show. This kind of goes, if someone's. got to do it, let's and he'll do it for. free. You're saving money and getting a.

much bigger host. >> They just wanted to [ __ ] you. They just. wanted to [ __ ] you. >> And you know what I suggested? They said. no. I we said Ali Siddiq should do it. They said no. >> Yeah. At least they went with Roy. Roy. was really good, but. >> Roy's great. >> But, it only lasted. >> It was over it was over after that. >> But, that show could have gone on a long. [ __ ] time. It was such a great idea. It was great execution. It was fun to. do. Everybody enjoyed it. >> moment where alt comedy and the ironic. distance was getting bigger. This was a. more real thing.

And people responded to it. And I. listen. >> But, it just shows you the grossness of. the business sometimes when these people. who are just gatekeeping executive. [ __ ]. >> Gatekeeping. They're really saying are. you not on the list? >> Yeah. And they don't exist anymore. That's. what's That's what's most amazing. >> thing. You can go to Tom. You can go to. a guy like that or whatever and he goes, no, I love the show. It made me it made. me bigger. Let's get it going again. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> And. >> And it's also like nine years later, like the internet has completely taken.

over. Like, it is drowned out all of. those comedy networks. They don't exist. anymore. >> Yeah. You need a some level of curation. or you're lost in a sea of content. sometimes. But, there's people you can trust. You know, if if you want meditation, that guy Sam Harris, is that the. meditation guy? You know, whatever he's. going to say, you're going probably. going to believe it meditation wise. You. know? >> Mhm. >> Um if you need some. uh to to hear an MMA fighter like really.

speaking the this is a great source for. that, this podcast. She needs some curator, but I mean. like I'm the guy, I'm that for this. show. >> [clears throat]. >> I'll make it quality, I'll make it look. right. You can always trust me to do. that. So come to me for That show was. the coolest stand-up show of all time. >> It was a fun show. It was a really good. show. And it was a show that I remember. you created from scratch. I remember. when you were doing it at the lab at the. Improv, that tiny little room. You were. doing it for free. And I was like, "What. are you doing?" Basically the same way. that you were talking about to me about.

my podcast. Like, "What are you doing?". Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> That's what you were saying. "What are. you doing, dude? A [ __ ] show for 20. people?" I'm like, "This is so weird.". I'm like, "Ari's telling stories." But I. thought about it. I was like, "It's. probably a good idea to develop material. that way.". >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. >> No, I A lot of people was like, "Hey, we're doing a show. It's about. heartbreak this week or it's this month. or it's about drugs, whatever." And they. go, "All right, let me. let me I have a story. Let me get all my. thoughts down.". >> Mhm. >> You know? Um all the metaphors and stuff, that. stuff flowery stuff you put on them. That Jay's so good at and stuff, but. like then they became a lot of people.

was like, "That's my closer in my. special now. I had no bit. I thought of. it cuz of this. It became, you know, the. biggest thing I had in my act.". >> Yeah, nuts. >> It's nuts. >> Yeah. >> Cuz I love giving people an excuse to. like. write something. >> also such a fun show cuz it was comedy. outside of like regular stand-up. It was. like another avenue. And. and it was a really fun thing to do. You know, and the thing about like the. gatekeeping of it is like those people. had nothing to do with it and they had.

all the power. >> all the power. >> And by do by just exercising it in that. way and then everybody talking about how. gross it was, nobody ever trusted them. again. >> And the thing is some of the stuff they. do, they're like, "We need some. diversity." And and it'd be like, "I. don't think you're wrong. I think you. don't want it to be all the same thing.". But there's something me and Eric Abrams. came up with is it's a diversity of. experience. >> Yeah. >> is bigger. Two white dudes is not what. we're talking about. If it's like Ali. Siddiq's life, closer to Gary Owen's life than mine. >> Mhm.

>> You know, Gary Owen and Ali are closer. to each other than me or Gary. You know? >> Right. Right. Right. >> So, that's what I want. Different. whatever. And they had these checklists. you would go to in LA. Here are the. gays. Get one of these seven. Here are. the black. And it was like, well, I'm not going to. [ __ ] up my product. >> No way. >> You At the end of the day, it has to be. a meritocracy. >> So, so then we would just work harder, which a lot of people aren't willing to. do. And it's like, well, there's a great. black woman in Indianapolis. Uh she's not in LA or New York. But. let's get her. She has great stories.

Ms. Pat. >> Right. >> There's a great black comic in Houston. And he has these great stories about. prison. Let's get him. Ali Siddiq. They're not on these lists. >> Yeah. >> You just got to work a little harder to. make your [ __ ]. I you know, it's like Seinfeld letting. everybody else shine. >> Right. But it's like forced diversity. without the merit, without good quality. comedy. Yeah. But it's just Gatekeepers [ __ ]. themselves, really. Because now that we. don't need them anymore, like they.

They're What do those people do? Like. all these people that were running. Comedy Central, what do they do now? There's no jobs. >> Well, the thing is with like with like. cabs overstepping that made Uber. possible, >> Yeah. >> so let's focus on the positive of this. >> And then the Uber people kept robbing. and murdering people. So, they they just. got Waymos. >> Yeah, exactly. They'll be gone, too. >> [laughter]. >> Take advantage. Like coke How many coke addicts do you. need driving? You're like, "Bro, that's. a red light. Please stop.". >> I mean, they barely [ __ ] vet those. people. >> Yeah. But the cool thing is, because.

it's easier to film and because I have. friends that are [ __ ] billionaires, you know? It's like I We can actually. get it done now. It's like It's a. golden age for this. >> It is. >> To be able to make a TV show level thing. on our own. >> Well, look at even movies. Like Theo and. David Spade made a [ __ ] movie. And. they self-financed it. And it's doing. well. go, >> don't know how much it's going to cost. We'll do it. We're rich.". It's incredible. It's a cool time. >> I mean, we made our budget back day one. >> That's awesome.

>> On a massive project, flying in 23. comics, you know, putting them all up, paying. them all. They're cutting in on the. shares. We've never done that before. >> So, are you going to do that in the next. season as well? Are you going to do. another season? >> A lot of this was just a. there was a hole in my in my resume. where this show didn't end on the terms. it should have ended on. And that's why. it's called The End. >> Yeah. >> Ah. >> Yeah, it's a play on words for story. titles, too, you know, like The End, but. like. >> I like it. >> just had to get it done right.

>> Nice. Nice. >> And then all these huge com- like Shane. Gillis, who when he was an open micer was like. all these guys were like, "I want to. eventually do that show." And the show. went away. >> In the interim, >> he's like supplanting the Philadelphia. 76ers so he could do comedy, you know? [laughter]. But he's like, "I'd love to do that. show." I had four people take private. jets to come to come do the show. >> That's amazing. >> Yeah. >> That's amazing. [ __ ] yeah, dude. >> It was I'm so happy with it. It came out. right. Everyone who's seen it is like,

"Oh, this is like not just something you. did. This is like a TV show.". Yeah, we It's like I'm so happy. >> That's awesome. >> Yeah. >> I love it. I'm so happy to hear that, dude. >> And there's that prologue that that guy. did. You should I'll I'll send you I'll. send you $2 off. Um. >> [laughter]. >> I was just being. >> Yeah, we said we had to figure out a. way, me and O'Neal and Abrams, we all. were like writing it. We're like, "I. have to figure out a way to bridge the. gap of this not happening to The End and.

what happened and everything without. being too woe-is-me.". And so we got this claymation guy. who was like, "Yeah, let's just fill it. with [ __ ] punchlines." So, it doesn't. become that like I love Schulz, but that. little like they couldn't keep us down. Like I don't want to do any of that. I. don't want to be earnest. >> Right. Right. >> bridge the gap without without ever. being serious. >> Oh, nice. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, it's like a 3-minute prologue you. get. for free. Yeah. Yeah. >> William Child.

>> That's William Child. That's. >> [laughter]. >> That's Tim Key's video. >> Oh, wow. How did they do that? Did they. use real claymation? >> dude. In a time of AI where everyone's. doing the easy stuff, he is. painstakingly It takes him a day to. build each one of those characters. That's 3-day work. And then the backdrop. takes another day or two. >> And how long does it take to actually do. the animation? >> time. All day long. So, if you have. notes, you're like, "Dude, I need those. notes before I start filming." This This. is. click, move, click, move, click, move. >> got to go back and erase the stuff that, you know, the wires and [ __ ] too.

>> Are they wires or is it just moving the. clay? >> to be held up cuz. >> the clay would fall. >> Right. Right. Right. >> Well, there's wires in the arms. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you don't necessarily have. to have wires like to make it stand. What is it going on with his tits? >> Well, this is his music video. >> What's in that bowl? [clears throat] Ew. >> Uh, he's making a This is the guy. >> Looks like a turd. >> Yeah, don't get locked into that. >> [laughter]. >> He did a trippy red video that's really. good. >> That's awesome, dude. >> Yeah. >> That's cool that people are still doing. stuff like that, like the old school,

the way they did King Kong. >> Well, here's what I noticed, too. When. you start talking to some of these. artists, you know, like some of my stage. designs and stuff like that, like for. America's Sweetheart, what what I had. was like this idea that like, what if we. left society? How long till nature would. just take back over? >> Mhm. >> And we're like, "Let's do that with. plants.". And then the first ones are like, "So. expensive." They're like, "Oh, I can't. Okay, I got to rethink. I can't. That's. far, far out of the budget. I'll spend a. lot, but not that much out of the. budget.". But then you tell these people, like, "Well, here's what I'm trying to do.". I'm trying to say You say the whole.

thing, like, "Here's what I'm trying to. get across. Here's what I'm trying to. say, like, we're too caught up in the. news and stuff and if we all just like, whatever." And then they go, "Fuck, dude. That's a good. Okay, we can do it at cost.". And then him and Anthony Shepherd, they. were both like these great artists that. were like, "Fuck, they stole your. [ __ ] show from you. Hold on, that's [ __ ] [ __ ]. I can bring my cost way down. Let's we. can do this. Still very expensive, but they're like, "I want to be part of something.". >> That's dope. >> if Tarantino was like, "You want to hold. a boom mic?" I'm like, "Yes, I would do. that for you to be part of something.".

>> Yeah. >> There we go. >> That's [ __ ] dope, dude. >> It's what? >> William Child, that's his Instagram. account. Whoa. >> That's me. >> Look at you. >> deliver me a message. Oh, you're an [ __ ] K. You know that is? >> Look at that. >> [laughter]. >> That's real. February 18th, 2010. The show was born. in the third most vapid city in America. Me and six comedians telling stories. about psychedelic drugs.

13 people showed up, but god damn, it. was the best show I'd ever seen. >> February. That's awesome. >> A lot of hard work completely on my own. with help from no one, I got a TV deal. And that helped launch the careers of so. many great comics. Fat ones who lost. weight. Fat ones who somehow keep. getting fatter. Men who go on to. influence elections. Who go on to normalize child. molestation. And then with a lot of. >> That's awesome.

>> Wait, wait, watch this part. You're in. it. Hold on. Or well, I mean, it might have been the drugs. Wait, watch right after this. Hold on. I. got to play. Or well, I mean, it might have been the drugs. >> Wait, no, there's nothing yet. That's. all it was. There's only clips of it, I guess. >> There's a There's the moment where after. I go, I realize I had to be a man and. not just a man who would go on to tap. Shane Gillis twice with witnesses, by.

the way, and that's you and Norman. raising your hand. >> [laughter]. >> as like, "I witnessed it.". I'm like, "Let's [clears throat] just. have some fun, dude. Let's have some. fun." I got Duncan to do a theme song on. the way out of his episode. >> Oh, really? >> He His story is about taking his kids to. a Taylor Swift um Taylor Swift uh. concert film and how awful it is. He. thinks she's a 15,000-year-old vampire. >> [laughter]. >> He has this long song. He goes, "You can. see it. She's feeding off them. She gets. bigger as they start cheering." It's so. funny and it's Duncan. He's so out.

there. And I'm like, "Hey, Duncan.". He does this like song. He breaks down. every one of her songs. He goes, "It's. just this." And I was like, "You know. those crazy garage band songs you're. making for 25-plus years. You want to do the theme song just for. that episode? Just the" And he goes, "Yeah, 100%.". So, it's this like demonic song about. [laughter] being a 15,000-year-old. vampire. It's a Taylor Swift original. song. >> And you don't have to okay with the. network. You're like, "Let's just do. it.". >> I was like, "What do you use your. credit?" He made up some crazy credit. for his band.

>> [laughter]. >> That's awesome. That's amazing. Nobody's. embraced like that kind of AI technology. more than Duncan. He's always sending me. things that he's working on like he does. it all day long. >> garage band songs he used to make, it. wasn't AI. It was just him coming up. with crazy weird songs. >> time ago. Yeah. >> The sunset days. >> Yeah. >> like, "Oh my god.". >> Yeah. That's awesome, dude. Okay, so. that's uh it's available on. arishaffir.com. >> arishaffir.com. Each episode is $5.99. >> That went away. People didn't know how.

to find it. >> But if is it still there? Like if you go. to ariethegreat.com, does it take you to. arishaffir.com? >> know anything about me, there's no way. I'm going to pay those fees every year. >> [laughter]. >> If I know anything about me and my. people, I doubt I still have that, but. >> All right. >> All right. >> Yeah. Yeah. I let the YMH staff I had a. production card. You know, you need a. production card at the end. One of them. says YMH, then Eric Abrams directs it, his. And I was like, [ __ ] The one I was using. was it was a still frame from This Is. Not Happening with just my dick. pixelated. And I was like, "Put my thing.

on that. I hate the you have to put I'm. not a producer or whatever. >> Right. >> And I didn't have it and then we. couldn't use anything with his not. happening. So it was like, don't And. then it was like, [ __ ] I need another. one. And I'm up in the jungle. So I told. YMH, I was like, guys, you guys are all [ __ ] idiots. Make me. whatever production card you want and I. will use it. And then they were like, we're going to make seven. And I was. like, all right. And I've seen a few of. them and they're all so [ __ ]. >> [laughter]. >> They're all so One of them would be. making a giant coin out of my [ __ ]. giant nose.

It's just so [ __ ]. >> [gasps]. >> No, I love working with people I like. >> Yeah, Tom's awesome. It's nice having a. guy like that that's like really. just acquired an enormous amount of. funds. >> Yeah. >> And does whatever the [ __ ] he wants. >> Fun funds. >> Yeah. Yeah. And his Netflix show was. [ __ ] great. >> out there. >> It's so crazy. But it's like perfect for. him. It's like his mind. All right, let's wrap this [ __ ] up. Um, tomorrow, Protect Our Parks. >> First Protect Our Parks in quite some. time, dude. I would get recognized here.

or there when I was traveling. Not much. I'll tell you a couple things I saw. One, people know Shane Gillis's name except. in Brazil and then they only know Ralfie. May's name. >> Oh, really? >> That's the only comic they've ever heard. of. >> he's a big comic over there. Yeah, I had. him on the show. >> Really? >> Yeah, he was great. Good dude. >> But I'll tell you this though, there's a. lot of business and [ __ ] that gets. caught up in this, who's interviewing. which politician and what all this guy's. doing this or he's friends with this guy. and and all the money and everything and.

like, am I doing well enough? People try. to do that keep up game. This guy's. getting more views on his clips. I. should start doing shorter stuff. Um, anyone I told that didn't recognize me. when it came up with my job was, first I. had to try to avoid it, but if they kept. pressing, I was like, no, no, no, for. real, what do you do? I'm like, all. right, well, I'm a I'm a stand-up. comedian. I mean, this is 10 for 10 countries. Everybody would be like, what? What do you mean? I'm like, I'm a. stand-up comedian. And they go, "W- W- like for as a hobby?" I'm like,

"No, it's a living." They're like, "What? Grandma, come here. This guy does. stand-up like What do you mean with a. microphone?" I'm like, "Yeah." He goes, "That's so cool. That's so cool." I'm. like, "Wait, just in New York?" I'm. like, "In the country, in the world, really." Like, "What? You pay your rent on this?" I'm. like, "Yeah, and then some." They're. like, "No [ __ ] way." They couldn't. get over how cool it was, and they. didn't know if I'm successful or not. They just know I do this. Bro, we have the coolest job, and I've. tested this, in the world. There's no cooler job you could tell.

people that they'll be like that. reaction. They start smiling just at the. idea of the job can they actually exist. >> Wow. >> And that's what we do. And the. high-level ones, and the low-level, we're all doing the same [ __ ] We're all. just coming up with a better dick joke. to just entertain some strangers. >> Even gay Ian sucking dick in a hole in. the wall. >> Blowing a dude, and they go, "Oh, I just. got an idea for a bit." That's cool. [laughter]. Let me Hold on, I got to write this. down. Hold on. >> Jerk [screaming] you while you write it. down. That's awesome. Yeah, it's an amazing. job. It's kind of incredible.

We live a very blessed life. For sure. >> Yeah, it's just. Yeah, it's just I don't know. I mean, yeah, it's fun to just focus on some. positives and realize the negatives are. nothing compared to the positives. >> up with the Joneses stuff and the paying. attention to the numbers. I mean, obviously that's easy for me to say that. you shouldn't do it, but you shouldn't. do it. >> Well, there's this thing. >> on what you're doing and enjoy it. >> I was talking to Maddie Weiners, really. funny comic, and uh she was like, "You. know all these people." And everybody. really like She's going to be a star.

And she's like, "All these people are. getting clips, this crowd work." I don't. do crowd work. And it was like, "Well, then you shouldn't do those clips. Your road's just going to be a little. longer than them, but don't think about. it like that. Like, just do the [ __ ]. you're good at. >> Yeah. >> You know? And then eventually you'll get. found out. >> I mean, just do whatever you do. >> Whatever you want to do, but don't let. them decide Oh, I need to write an under. 60-second bit. It's got to have a. punchline at 59 seconds or I can't put. it on YouTube shorts. Like that's a dumb. way to be building your stuff.

>> Absolutely. >> Big Jay does kind of crowd work that no. one's ever done. >> crowd work with like. >> Yeah. >> But it's not like he's working on. >> it for so long and he has that kind of. personality and like easy-going style. that makes it. it makes it work. >> Big Jay um at at like uh and somebody. heckles him like an angry heckle and not. just like a I'm going to be part of it. They're like, "You [ __ ] suck." He. doesn't I get worked up. He just goes, "Oh. What uh. what was it that you don't like?" Like. almost as if he's on mushrooms. He's.

like, "No, yeah, I can see that. But. what specifically? I just want to know.". >> He's an easy-going guy. >> Yeah, he's just like, "Let's mine this. for laughs." I'm not getting caught up. screaming. >> Well, he's also done so many shows in. New York where that must happen so. often. You develop strategies. >> Yeah. You're you've got practice at it. >> Yeah. >> Big Jay, my co-host of Legion of Skanks. >> All right. That's right. You're back. Legion of Skanks, you're you're running. it now that Dave Smith has decided to be. a political commentator. >> Well, it's Three for Life. I'm not. running it. I'm just part of it. >> no. You're running it. >> I'll. >> Print it. Joke world. >> I heard that you were the leader of the.

Legion of Skanks. >> I am. The leader of Skanks. >> Weren't you. in the past you already like you ran for. president. I think you won. >> I. think. Yeah, I won. >> [laughter]. >> Dude, one day on one of these podcasts. we got to talk about the pres- the. presidential election of Legion of. Skanks. It was a 3-month process of just. non-stop creativity and stupidity. >> Well, talk about it tomorrow. >> Okay. Oh, Shames involved? Yeah, Shames. my vice president. >> There you go. All right. Let's wrap this up. >> I love you. >> Uh I love you, too. It's great to see. you back. Good to see you again. >> Dude, there's a bunch of times where I.

thought about you out there where I'm. like, "You would love Nasca Lines." was. one I'm like, "Joe Rogan would love the. Mayan temples. You would love it.". >> I I went to Chichen Itza once way back. in the early days. >> El Salvador, you would have loved. >> Mm, I'm sure. >> Just with like for the stuff you're. into. There was so much. >> All right. >> Anyway, well, I love you, buddy. I love. you, too. Bye, everybody. Love you, Jamie. Bye. >> [music].