Joe Rogan Experience #2491 - Brian Simpson
Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. >> The Joe Rogan Experience. >> TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY. NIGHT. All day. >> Do you got to get [music] new glasses? >> No, I just have different pair for. different stuff. >> Did they get stronger? >> No. >> No, >> I just have a. >> Did you always have glasses? Like do you. have a eyeball issue? >> Yeah, I got a stigmatism. >> Okay. But I uh but I got one one for. driving and one for my computer. >> I used to have to use um reading.
glasses. >> Oh yeah. >> Then I started using red light red light. therapy. And uh I think that uh f the. first thing I started doing is taking uh. this company pure encapsulation has this. um it's called uh macular support. It's. like a combination of nutrients that. help your eyeballs. >> I don't know how but I explained it to. Huberman. He read it off to me and he's. like, "This makes sense." Um, but then, um, the big one was red light. I started.
using red light therapy. I don't need. glasses anymore. >> What? >> Yeah. My glass My eyes aren't perfect. Like, uh, in low light, they're not so. good. Like, uh, in a dark restaurant, I. have to use like the flashlight on my. thing to read a menu, but I don't need. glasses anymore. >> Oh. So, I was I've been wondering that. Is it that I'm getting older or are they. just using darker light in the. restaurants? >> They definitely use dark light in. restaurants. I don't I mean, young. people can still read it. Like I've gone. to restaurants with my kids and they can. read in the dark. I'm like, "You can. read that? I can't read it." But um but.
like small print like on my phone like. reading an email. I didn't used to be. able to read it and now I can read it. perfectly. >> Oh, see now I'm I'm hitting that age now. where I got to start switching. >> switching glasses. >> A different Yeah. >> Here we go. Here we go. >> Listen, dude. I'm just happy you're. alive. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you. know, you know, man, I've. >> People don't know what we're talking. about. You had a heart attack. >> Yes. I had a heart attack three months. ago. >> Yeah. >> Super Bowl weekend. >> Yeah. >> In Atlanta.
>> Yeah. Out of nowhere. Well, was it. really out of nowhere? Not really. [laughter]. [laughter]. You know, like cuz that's. >> not like you were a marathon runner. >> Right. Right. [laughter] Exactly. But I. but I was sitting there, you know, honestly, I was sitting there thinking. because I remember the doctor cuz we, you know, we we really are. like we've set ourselves up. We we kind. of deal with trauma and a not I mean you.
can argue about whether how it's whether. it's healthy or not, but with but our. first go-to is humor, >> right? >> And I remember the doctor getting upset. with me like this the the surgeon the. lady that was about to she was about to. put a stent. So, you know, I'm sitting. there and she was like, "Hey, >> something very serious just happened to. you, you know, because I was just. talking, you know, I was but it was just. how I was just coping, you know, she was. not. >> happy about it.". >> Did you tell her that's how I deal with. things? >> No, I was already all drugged up and.
[ __ ] you know? >> But it [laughter] was cuz it was one of. them things where I think like you can't. they [snorts] can't put you out. >> completely. like it's it's not that kind. of anesthesia. Okay. >> But they but I think they need you to be. conscious kind of in case something goes. wrong. >> But they but whatever the [ __ ] they put. me on, I don't remember any of it. >> And you were joking around and she was. upset. >> Yeah. What what happened was the the. when I got to the hospital, the doctor. that first saw me was like I forget his. name, but he was like, "Hey, I'm Doug.
and don't don't worry about anything. I'mma be with you the whole time." You. know, and then maybe 20 minutes later, you know, they they wheeling me in. and. they drugging me up and I'm like, "Hey, where the [ __ ] is Doug, [laughter]. you know, and they're like, "Who's. Doug?" I was like, "He's he promised me. that he wasn't going to leave." And I. was obviously I was just joking. I know. like he was just saying that so I would. calm down or. >> right. >> I don't know why Doug thought he would. be bringing me comfort, >> but I just but I I I I fake made a big.
deal of the fact that I felt abandoned. by Doug and she didn't think it was. funny. >> Oh. >> But somebody did, and that's all I. needed was the laugh. I'm like, "It's. you, [ __ ] It's not me. You're the. problem. You're too serious in here.". >> Well, why would she need you to be. serious if you're getting a stent put. in? Would that make it work better? >> I mean, to be fair, I think my whole. life people have said as serious as a. heart attack. And I feel like if if you. dedicated your life to that, you. probably a serious person. [laughter] I. I don't know any other heart surgeons, but I bet they all pretty uptight. >> Yeah, they have to be. It's life or. death with every decision that they.
make, right? >> I guess. >> they got to get it in on time, right? like if they're going to put a stent in. you, if they're going to do something. like if you're one of those people like. you are that if you didn't address this, you would have died, >> right? >> So that's one of those things that's. time critical. So I guess with those. people like, "Hey, stop [ __ ] around.". Like in their mind, like I got to save. you. I got to figure out what has to be. done within a certain amount of time and. get you on the road to recovery because. if I don't, you're dead. >> Yeah. You know what? She something else.
I remember and this was just flash cuz I. only remember like these couple seconds. is she kept yelling at me because I kept. moving my hands. So basically like I'm. laid down like this and and they want. you to keep they want you to keep your. hands right by your side. >> And I just remember I kept coming to. with her being like, "Hey, keep your. hands she might have said keep your. [ __ ] hands down." I don't know. though. I don't know. I [laughter] ain't. going to make no accusations. But but. she was clearly upset about it. She was. rece and but but I'm like [ __ ] I'm on.
I'm on with the drugs you gave me. I'm. not doing it on purpose. >> Apparently my my default response cuz. cuz they cuz they they put they have to. put a st in but they go through your. groin. >> Yikes. >> So So you know so apparently like my. default response is to protect my dick, >> right? >> Like I'm waking up. Somebody's [ __ ]. around down there. Oh, [laughter]. >> you know it's like why don't y'all tie. me down if it's that important? Why. don't you tie my hands down? >> Right. >> But maybe they can't. I don't know. I. don't know what's what else is going on. And medical people are real sensitive. about criticism.
You know, some of them real like we save. lives. How dare you? And it's like, all. right, I'm still Yeah. Some of y'all are. still [ __ ] though. >> Well, they're they don't have the best. sense of humor. They can't like that's. not the way you if you want to be a. really good doctor, you can't be also a. standup comedian. >> Well, see, no. See, the nurses have a. sense of humor. >> Right. Right. >> Nurses are fun. >> They might as well be different species. >> Yeah. Nurses are fun. Like nurses come. in, they joke around with you, they [ __ ]. around. Like some of them do at least. >> Yeah. And and some of them kill you. >> Let's be honest. And in Atlanta, the.
nurses were incredibly attract like. really there was hot nurses everywhere. >> Damn. >> Like nurses. And it's something about. like vette techs like working at the one. the ladies working at the vet hospitals. >> Yeah. >> It's something about going into that. field. I don't know what it is. >> Vette, you mean veterinarians? >> Yeah. Like veterinarians. Yeah. But not. the not the doctors, >> right? >> Just the nurses. >> Just the nurses. Well, they're people. who love animals. Sweet people. >> Oh, yeah. And money. They love animals.
and money. I Nobody. >> Well, the nurses don't usually love. money. If they did, they wouldn't get. into that profession. But the. veterinarian hospital certainly loves. money. The administration. >> Speaking of which, I can't I can't. decide which pisses me off more is. like when I get the bill at the at the. human hospital or when or because at the. vet hospital, I feel like they. I feel like they're like they're. extorting me, >> you know? Like when I got the bill from. this hospital, I was like, "God damn.". But I was in there and they were cuz.
they didn't walk up to me while like. before the surgery and go, "What's it. going to be?". >> Right? >> But when but when it's your pet, that's. what they do. They go, "We could do this. life-saving thing, which is the best. thing to do, but it's way more money. than you have.". >> Or, you know, you can be a piece of [ __ ]. pet owner and get the $20 thing. Yeah. >> Yeah. They they're trying to get you to. take out a loan, all that. Just really. turn the screws. >> That's awful. >> Yeah. I don't know when the last time. you had to do some serious [ __ ] for your. pet. >> Pretty recently. Marshall swallowed a.
bunch of rocks. >> Oh, god damn. >> Yeah. He um we Someone spilled chicken. food on the gravel and he ate all the. chicken food and just kept eating and. started eating gravel. >> Oh my god. >> He's [ __ ] He's the sweetest boy. [laughter] He's the sweetest sweetest. dog that's ever walked to face the. earth, but he is not clever. And and so. um we bring him inside. No one knows no. one knows anything that happened. And. then he starts throwing up and he's. throwing up rocks like little pebbles.
And then he starts getting diarrhea and. he's diarrhea and pebbles. I'm like, "Oh. no." And then we put two and two. together. We figured out what happened. And so then I had to take him to the. vet. So I took him to the vet and he had. to stay there overnight. And luckily. they didn't have to do surgery. um they. pumped it out of it. They somehow or. another got the rocks out of his stomach. and they had to keep scanning it to make. sure there's no rocks remaining in. there. And so he passed all the rocks. He either threw them up or [ __ ] him out. And then within [clears throat] a. certain amount of time, I think he was. there for he was there for at least 24.
hours, but after a certain amount of. time, he started eating and then they. weren't worried about him anymore. >> That dog [ __ ] eats. He just all he. wants to do is eat. He gets so excited. >> Yeah. >> All he wants to do is his favorite thing. is. >> I want every morsel of flavor out this. dirt. >> It's so crazy. He kept eating rocks. I. mean, he ate pounds of gravel. It wasn't. like a small amount of gravel. It was. the amount of gravel that was in my. living room on the carpet was crazy. >> Oh, wow. >> The out of throw up and just diarrhea. It was everywhere. It was It was a crime. scene. >> I bet you he won't do that [ __ ] again.
>> Oh, yeah. He will. >> He will. >> He'll do it tomorrow. [laughter] Dude, Doug doesn't learn [ __ ] He's the best. Like, he's a sweet dog. I love him so. much. I love him so much. He's just all. love. Every time I see him, he just. wagging his tail. I get down on the. ground with him. He kisses me. I hug. him. I rub his belly. He's the best. But. he is not. That used to be a wolf. That's what's so [ __ ] up about human. beings. We took something that's the. most clever most. They they communicate. with each other. They plan traps on.
animals. They're so clever. You can't. And also, you can't train them. You know. that about wolves? You can't train them. That's why you don't see wolves in the. [ __ ] circus. You cannot train. You. could train a bear. You could train a. lion. You could train a tiger. Wolves. just go, "Fuck you. I'm going to do. exactly what I want to do." But not. dogs. Certainly not my dog. Like. Marshall, he's the sweetest. Like he was. so easy to train. >> See, that's wild. Cuz you can train a. lion, but you can't train a a house cat. >> Train a Well, you could train house cats.
to do certain things. Like some people. have trained their house cat to [ __ ] in. the the toilet. >> No, Joe. There's a there's a video of. like I I wonder if she she's Russian. This Russian lady. She's like the world. champion. cat training lady [laughter]. and and she and she's getting these cats. to do a whole bunch of [ __ ] but every. now and then. >> they do what they want. >> They just do what the [ __ ] they want. >> Yeah, that's true. You can't get them to. do it like. >> like a really good dog will like a. Belgian malam that's absolutely. >> just does every task you ask them to.
That's impossible. >> Absolutely not. >> But with wolves, you can't train them to. do anything. They won't listen. I didn't. know that. >> they don't listen to you at all. I had a. friend who had wolves. He had like 7/8. timber wolves and they got out and. killed a bunch of his neighbors sheep. They like you couldn't stop them from. doing anything they wanted to do. Whatever they wanted to do. >> Why do you have a pack of wolves? >> He's an idiot. He had three of them. I. was like, you don't have these dogs. You. just feed them. You don't This is not. like a dog. >> No,
>> they don't listen to you. And you have a. a house with a yard. Like that's crazy. Like you you should have like an. enormous piece of land and even then if. you have wolves they're going to kill. everything they run across. >> Yeah. They need miles of. >> of space. >> Yeah. They're they're cardio machines. They run through the mountains. They. chase down moose. >> That's why I get so irritated when cuz. I'm in a I'm in apartments now and I'm. in one of those I don't know what the. [ __ ] is going on with my building but. but the it's full of dog. Like the.
building is for dog people. There's. there's a dog wash. >> The all of the grass around it is all. fake and there's there's [ __ ] [ __ ]. bags every 10 feet and the front of the. building from like noon to 400 p.m. it. always just the strongest scent of dog. piss because 50 people have walked their. dogs around. And I and that's fine. I. don't I don't mind that at all. But what. irritates me is when I see cuz I know I. have the biggest apartment in the. building and I know that I don't have.
room for like I I don't have the room. for like a uh like a blue like a blue. healer or right. >> and it's like you see [ __ ] with. dogs like that was like yo you that dog. needs to be running miles every day. Why. do you got that big ass dog? Oh yeah. Well, I see I saw a damn I saw uh uh a. Cane Corso. >> Mhm. That's crazy. >> It's like you got a Cane Corso in a in a. in a 1300 uh square foot apartment.
That's crazy. >> That's crazy. >> And I don't And and here's the other. thing. I don't see that [ __ ]. every day. So you you skipping days. This [ __ ] needs to hurt things. or or. >> he needs to have exercise. That's like. having an MMA fighter living in your. house. Like you better take him to the. [ __ ] gym. >> Oh yeah, cuz people always blow off. steam. >> When people find out that I have a cat, they always like, "Oh, so your apartment. smells like a cat." No. No. But but you. know, you know, you know whose places. always smell bad is people that have a. dog that's too [ __ ] big to be in the. place. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. There's. >> also they probably can't wash it, right? Like what are you going to do? Do you. get in the shower with it? I used to get. in the shower with my dogs. I bring. Marshall to a groomer, but um my my dog. Johnny, he used to love getting in the. shower with me. >> Really? Yeah, he was a big mastiff and. he loved it because it was just massages. and love in the shower. I just cover him. with shampoo and I would talk nice to. him. I go, "Oh, we're getting so clean, buddy." He give me kisses. I'm like, "Look at you. We're good." So, >> something about seeing their human with.
no clothes. They're I think they lock. cuz my my cat does it. She loves to come. in the bathroom whenever she knows I'm. naked or she has a shower running, she. just sit there and watch. >> It's probably weird to them that you. could take your clothes off. >> Yeah. I mean, no. I think it's weird to. them that you wear clothes at all. Oh, for sure. >> They're like, "What?". >> Yeah. What are you doing? Why you under. the sheets all the time? >> Yeah. [laughter]. And I I don't I've softened my stance on. people that put clothes on their. animals, but I'm like, "They don't like. it.". >> No. Well, some dogs like um Chihuahua in. the winter, it's a good idea.
>> Yeah. But what I mean, >> it's like 30° out. >> The dog The dog likes it. No, the dog. likes that you like it. >> They like pleasing you, but they don't. want clothes on. >> They don't. But if you have like a. little dog like like a Chihuahua for. instance, they get really cold. >> Those guys, if you put a little sweater. on them, like they feel better outside. It's just makes sense. It's warm. >> But but okay, then go all the way then. Where the boots at? [laughter]. >> Some of them wear boots in the summer. because like New York City, like the. street gets so hot. >> Like if you think about how hot the.
street gets if it's 98 degrees outside. >> It was like broken glass. >> Oh my god. Yeah. I mean, you're just. walking on hot rocks, >> right? But also, what are you doing with. that big ass dog in New York City? >> That's true. >> There are no apartments. We Why you got. a great Dane out here in New York? >> I mean, I would have to make a choice. Like, if for some reason I had to move. to New York City, I'm not getting rid of. my dog. And I'm not leaving my dog here. >> You can't get rid of your dog. >> There's no chance. Not a chance in hell. So, I would just have to commit to a. lifestyle of taking that dog out to like.
Central Park every day, doing things. with them every day. I would have to. make a choice, bro. I would have to live. near the park for sure. >> Like for me to get for me to get rid of. my cat something. It would have to be. like. >> they would have to die. >> They'd have to die or or it would have. to be something where like I I am. absolutely not capable of, you know, like I'm I'm I can't move, you know, or. something crazy like that. >> Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. >> Yeah. When I try to when I moved out. here from Cali, >> uh like she she can't fly.
>> Oh, so did you drive her across the. country? >> I paid somebody to. >> Oh, there you go. >> Oh, me that would that would be a [ __ ]. Actually, I didn't have a car at the. time, but that would be a nightmare. >> She This is the most stubborn. Like, this creature. >> like I I I have a hard time getting her. I've taken her to three groomers. They. all been like, "You got to come get her. >> You got to come get cuz she don't she. doesn't like to be with restrained in. any way.". >> Mhm. >> Yeah. And at the slightest sign that. you're thinking about holding her down. or putting her in something, she will. fight with everything she got.
>> Is she a feral cat? >> No. Well, she might have been. She might. have been. >> I got her. The the story the lady told. me. It doesn't really add up, but. basically she was. a divorce happened. >> This family had two cats and a dog. And. then the wife got the house and started. fostering animals. And then my cat's. brother who So her and her brother were. the original cats. My cat's brother.
started. basically like joined this pack of cats. against against because Millie don't. socialize at all. But her brother kind. of turned on her. >> Game of Thrones. >> Yeah. And so since then she was just. hostile with everybody. >> All the animals, I mean. And so when I. came to get her, all these animals were. in this lady's house except Millie. She. was in the garage and they had a little. post and she was in the garage. And when. I came to take her, she was so down to. go. She was like, "Fuck all them people. [ __ ] my brother. [laughter] [ __ ] this.
She was so. >> But she likes you. >> Oh, yeah. She loves me. She still to. this she follows me from room to room. >> Oh, well, that's sweet. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But she. >> cats that just choose one person, too. >> She also hates me, too. So, >> she hates you. >> I think she hates. >> She probably [clears throat] had bad. experiences. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's just She's got. some kind of trauma that I'll never know. about. >> You got to give her some kitty cat. Iawasa. >> Bro, I've I've had to I've had to put. her on on CBD and [ __ ] before we go to. the vet. >> Really? This episode is brought to you. by Ketone IQ. I don't care who you are.
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>> She loves it. >> What is it? So weird. What does cat It. works on every cat. I've never seen a. cat where it doesn't work on. >> Imagine I mean there's [ __ ] like that. for people. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. >> You just give someone. >> We got plenty of [ __ ] like that. >> But I don't know if it gets them high. I. don't know what it's doing to them. >> to them. >> Well, let's find out. I I really have no. idea what the mechanism of. >> um let's put this into perplexity. >> All right, Jeremy, you already. perplexity. >> Catnip is an aromatic. Perplexity is our. AI sponsor brand. Really? >> Yes, we have an AI sponsor.
>> Oh [ __ ] Okay. >> It's the [ __ ]. >> Uh it's not ideologically captured. Catnip is an aromatic herb in the mint. family whose leaves and stems contain a. chemical. How do you say that word? Nep. nepatala. >> You want to try that, Jamie? I'm going. to say nep nebatilacone. >> Nepat. I think you're right. Nepatactone. that triggers playful or euphoric. behavior in many cats. Many cats. Interesting. I thought it was all cats. Uh plant is native to Eurasia now common.
across temperate regions and is easy to. grow in North America often in gardens. or pots. Why cats react to it? Catnip. contains an oil whose main active. compound is nepatilactone, a type of tarpine produced in glands on. the leaves and stems. When the cats. smell nepatilactone, it binds to. receptors in their nose and stimulates. brain pathways linked to mood. >> Wow. >> Leading to behaviors like rolling, rubbing, purring, meowing, jumping, or.
brief zooies. Only about twothirds Oh, okay. 80% of cats are sensitive to. catnip. The tendency is genetic. The. effect usually lasts 5 to 15 minutes, after which they become temporarily. immune for a while. Interesting. >> Is it safe? For most cats, catnip is. considered non-toxic and safe, and many. vets recommend it as enrichment to. encourage play and reduce boredom or. stress. Eating a small amount is usually. fine and may soothe the digestive tract, but large amounts can cause short-lived.
stomach upset, vomiting, diarrhea, or. dizziness. [clears throat] You can't. just [ __ ] a fiend. Oh [ __ ] You only. supposed to give a pinch? >> I don't know. >> That's what it say down there. >> Only a pinch. Oh, here it goes. Because. of this, people typically offer just a. pinch of dried or fresh. How much do you. give your cat, >> bro? [laughter]. I don't [ __ ] her world. >> Oh my [laughter] god. You giving her a. fat bag. >> You give her a fat bag. >> I just let her go at it, man. You know.
what's funny, man? My cat is very like I. let her do what she wants, >> you know? Like I let her she she get she. can go outside like you know she's not. she's not an outdoor cat but if she want. to go out I open the door I [snorts] cuz. I make you know what it is I make sure. outside is not some some mystery place. that she when she if she want to go I I. open the door and let her go and then. after she get cold or hear something and. smell and run back in the house because. that way she's not like just dying to go. out there all the time. >> Right. Right. Right. >> I'm not worried about her running away. >> I worry about coyotes man.
>> When you let cats out man coyotes are. [ __ ] they target your house. They. know where the cats are. They know the. cats that get let out. >> Yeah, but but it's like it nothing comes. near my building because it just smells. like just all It smells like 50 dogs. live there. >> Yeah, but they eat dogs, too. >> Really? >> Mhm. >> Yeah. My daughter's puppy got eaten by a. coyote in California. Guy was training. and he left the the puppy outside. It. got eaten by coyotes. >> Brian, you know coyotes? >> Oh, I've seen them. >> Oh, also, but here's the other thing, too. My my my my girl is, you know, she.
she takes zero chances. The slightest. sign of danger and she she already got. >> No, she got 50 spots to hide and run. like she's never gotten into it with. anything. >> The thing about coyotes is they haven't. they're predators, right? And cats. >> are predators, too. But pets are. different than wild animals. >> Yeah. This [ __ ] ain't very different. >> She'll bring a [ __ ] mouse in the. house. >> Yeah. I mean, they kill stuff. They they. they kill stuff for fun, but there's a.
difference between that and needing to. eat and needing to like eat cats in. order to survive, which is what coyotes. do. So coyotes know where the cats are. They know what the smell when cats are. peeing outside. So they know a cat lives. in the house and they know the cat pees. outside. They just hover nearby and wait. because they know it's a matter of time. before the cat has to go outside. >> You know what's funny, man? I haven't. seen a coyote the whole time I lived in. Austin. I think they'll hide three years. now. >> They hide. >> I know. I saw them all the time in LA, though. >> You'll see them. They exist.
>> I You know what it is? I think it's that. the ones out here aren't starving like. the ones in LA were, right? >> So, they cuz they get bolder and bolder. if they the hungrier they get. >> Well, the thing about Austin as opposed. to LA is there's a lot of animals and. there's a lot of moisture, right? So, if. you're outside of greater Austin area, like a lot of these coyote, I see them. all the time out where I live because. there's a lot of animals where I live. I. see like foxes almost every day. I see. armadillos a couple times a week. I see. deer every day. I always see these,
especially when I come home, I see foxes. run across the road. There's all kinds. of animals. So, there's all kinds of. things that coyotes eat. A lot of. rabbits, all kinds of things coyotes. eat. And so, they don't have to come. into the city. Whereas in LA, you've got. LA and then everything around LA is just. barren. >> You know, it's all dry and [ __ ] up and. you might find a rabbit, >> but it's way easier to eat someone's. cat. So, and I think I think the average. person doesn't realize how how many. coyotes are around them. Like they're. Oh, yeah. Every major city, they're like.
they're like raccoons. They're in every. city everywhere. >> There's a great book on it called Coyote. America. >> Oh, >> yeah. It's really good. And um it's uh. all about how coyotes what happens is um. when they yell out, they're doing like a. roll call. And when they're doing a roll. call, they're letting all the other. coyotes know that they're there. And. when one of them's missing, the female. coyotes assume that that coyote is dead. And so their body responds by making a.
larger litter. >> What? So they'll have more babies if. someone's missing. >> Damn. Death makes them horny. >> Well, it makes them have more children. They always have children. They're. always horny, right? But they instead of. having three pups, they'll have six. And they spread out because they were. persecuted by gray wolves. Like that's. the whole deal. and being gray wolves. and red. So coyotes and red wolves mate. with each other. That's why you get what.
they call a koi wolf, but it really is a. coyote is a wolf. It's a type of wolf, but they're not related to the. greywolves. And greywolves and coyotes. don't mate. So greywolves, the ones that. have in like Colorado and, you know, like uh Montana, those wolves just eat. coyotes. They just kill them. Like they. don't [ __ ] around. They so there's no. chance of becoming allies. So those. coyotes learned a long time ago when. they start getting killed by wolves, just spread out. Just get the [ __ ] out.
of there. Keep moving. That's why. they're in 50 states. They're in every. city in the country now. And that wasn't. the case when I was a kid. When I was a. kid, like I grew up in Massachusetts in. my high school years, there was no. [ __ ] coyotes. Nobody. I I never even. heard of anybody seeing a coyote. >> Yeah, me neither. I never saw a coyote. in my life until 1994 in uh I I do you. remember in LA they had those Oakwood. garden apartments. >> It's like furnished apartments that they. had in LA and uh I was driving to it.
It's like when I first moved there. I. didn't have an apartment yet. When I. first moved there I was like are those. [ __ ] dogs? What are these dogs? I'm. like oh [ __ ] those are coyotes. I. remember pulling the car over looking at. them like this is weird. These weird. little wolves just wandering around the. city. >> Like that's how you know you seeing a. coyote. You like, "Is that a dog?". >> Well, that was the first time and that. was in '94. But by the time, you know, we left in 2020. [ __ ] they were. everywhere. I mean, everywhere. Like, they expanded.
>> Yeah. >> And now they're in New York City. They. find them in in the middle of the. [ __ ] park. They They find them in the. Bronx. They're in abandoned buildings. They're all over the place. They're in. Chicago. Coyotes are all over the whole. country. When I uh when I was in LA, one. of the neighborhoods I lived in that was. like I was in the neighborhood Facebook. group and there was a dude in there, his. name was Coyote. The guy's name was. Coyote that he just wanted everybody to. know that he loved coyotes so much. And. he would literally he would defend.
coyotes no matter what the [ __ ] they. did. Like somebody would be in the. Facebook group, hey, a coyote [ __ ]. ate my dog right out of my hands. Watch. out. And this guy would be like, if. anybody here harms that coyote, they. have to answer to me. [ __ ] your dog. >> Oh god. >> Oh yeah. Yeah, I think his name was like. his name was like Coyote Jones or. something like that. He He was serious. >> He was real serious. >> Really into coyotes. >> He was, you know, I thought everybody. everybody got their thing. >> Well, they're an interesting animal, man. That's it's really interesting in. that that book. It was It's all about.
>> You know who's um I just saw something. about how raccoons are the next animal. that that's being uh you know, tamed or. domesticated or whatever. Oh, I believe. that. >> the ones the ones in the city are. starting to have like shorter snouts and. >> Oh, whoa. >> Yeah, they're starting to. >> look more like how wolves became [ __ ]. ass wolves when they came around the. fire. >> They're basically they're starting to. get cuter like dogs. The ones closer to. us are getting cuter because they know. it it gets them treated better. >> Wow. >> The cuter the cuter ones have more more.
babies. The same thing. >> I know. Oh, and that's crazy cuz I read. somewhere that we haven't actually. domesticated cats or or not. That makes. sense. Maybe domesticated isn't the. word, but. >> never got them to the point where we did. with dogs. >> Exactly. But but raccoons are getting. there. >> That's so interesting because But it. makes sense. Like, did you ever heard. about that Russian study they did with. foxes? Like how quickly you can. domesticate a fox? >> Oh, no. I didn't know that you could do. that. >> Oh, it's really quick. So you start out. with foxes and any fox that shows any.
aggress you start with a bunch of foxes. Any fox that shows any aggression to a. person, you kill it on the spot. Oh, bang, dead. [ __ ] you. Get all the ones. that survive or ones that have no. aggression towards people. And then. slowly their snouts get shorter and. their ears start to flop. And over the. course of like 10 years, you got a. totally different animal. See if you can. find that, J. >> Why don't people do that? I don't. >> Well, they did do that with this one. study, but it was just to show how quick. things change like given natural.
selection. Like natural selection. dictated that if you're a sweeter fox, you live. If you show your teeth, they. [ __ ] shoot you in the head, you know? And I'm sure Russian scientists are. probably a little bit more hardcore. [laughter]. >> Oh, Chinese. >> Here it is. Dimmitri Belov in Ludilia. Truth. The Russian fox domestication. program is a long-term experiment in. Novo Cibers, Siberia that successfully. bred domesticated silver foxes, a form. of red fox, selecting specific.
specifically for tameness. After over 60. years and dozens of generations, fox act. like domesticated elite pets, displaying. doglike behavior such as tail wagging, licking, and whining for attention. So, you could buy them. Can you buy one of. these foxes? That's crazy. See if. there's a video. Oh, you get one for. 9,000 bucks. >> What? >> Let's Oh, known for high energy and. needing intensive care. Yeah, you don't. want that in your [ __ ] 1300 square.
foot apartment. >> What makes them elite though? >> It is interesting, right? What does that. mean? >> Does it look like AI? >> Let's see. It's Who knows nowadays, right? Oh, look at this. Lay's got a fox. as a pet. Oh, wow. They're like little dogs. That's crazy, >> bro. >> But the thing about foxes are they are. like playful in the wild. Even wild. foxes are playful with people. Oh, this.
little guy's missing a foot. A. I don't know if those are. wild or the thing. >> just showing foxes. >> These are just different foxes. I don't. think these are those foxes. This is. just. >> right. It's showing the info and then. showing a bunch of different foxes. But. if you remember Grizzly Man, like that. movie, the Warner Herszog movie. So he. was living in the middle of Alaska. around these bears and the foxes would. come and hang out with him and the foxes.
would like hang out in his tent. They. would play with him. They stole his hat. once and ran away with his hat and he. was like chasing him trying to get his. hat back. >> And the bears don't attack the foxes. Well, they probably would if they could, but foxes probably can get away. I mean, they probably catch a fox slipping every. now and then, but mostly what they were. looking for up there was salmon. They're. eating a lot of salmon. And when bears. get salmon, that's all they want. Like. you could There's a crazy video that. we've shown before of this guy and. they're on the edge of a river and the. salmon are running. There's all these.
bears in there that'll just like just. gorging on salmon, which is why those. coastal bears are so much bigger. like. Kodiak bears like Alaska that the reason. why they're so much bigger is because. they have access to salmon. They have. access to fish and all the other animals. that are there too. But when they're. when there's a salmon run, that's all. they want. They just want to eat salmon. >> So you're saying like if you give salmon. to a bear that's never had salmon. before, it'll just that's all they'll. want after. >> No, that's not what I'm saying. I. wouldn't I It's probably delicious. I. mean, that's why we like sashimi. But I.
think it's the access is so easy. >> They don't have to chase anything. They. just stand in the river. It literally. comes to them. and they just bite it out. of the air. You see how bears do that? >> And bears are kind of lazy. Like if they. can preserve energy, they will. They. just want to get fat for hibernation, right? So, they just want to eat as much. as possible. So, the point is like when. that they're like that and they're just. eating fish, you don't even have to. worry about them. They're not even going. to kill you. So, this dude is like. sitting there. He's got like a little. lawn chair and this [ __ ] giant bear.
just walks up besides him and sits down. like sits down almost like a person. And. they're like, "Hey, get out of here.". Hey. And I mean, it is as close to him. as you are to me. And it might be a. thousand pounds. I mean, this thing is. [ __ ] gigantic. And you see the river. behind him. So you see all these bears. that are just scooping salmon out of the. river. >> And what is the what is the bear trying. to tell him about doing? >> Bears on it. Doesn't give a [ __ ] He's. just come to sit down. >> Like you might be a stick or a person. It doesn't matter. It's eating salmon,
right? Like watch this. Look at this. Look at this. This dude's just sitting there with his. [ __ ] chair and this giant ass bear. just comes next to him. Look at the size. of that thing, but it's not interested in him at all. It's not like playing koi. It's not. pretending. It's not going to kill him. Like it's it doesn't care about him. Like it doesn't think that he's going to. eat it. That's for [ __ ] sure. Right. So. it's like he's just chilling. Like that.
might as well be Look at it. He sits. down like a person. [laughter]. Oh, bro. You know what it is about these. [ __ ] is how fast it can go from. this to terrifying. >> Yeah. To 45 miles an hour. But look, he's like, "Hey, get out of here." Then. it walks off. >> He's like, "All right, not looking for. any trouble. Just hanging out." It's. amazing that the thing listens to him, but also amazing that he's not freaked. out. I guess he's taking a photo. So, in. that video, you see there's a ton of.
bears that are just hanging out in that. stream. They just lay and they don't. fight with each other either during. those situations because they know. there's so much salmon, there's enough. for everybody. So like if one of them. kills a moose, right, the other ones. will come over and try to steal it from. them. [ __ ] you. That's my moose. And. they'll they'll because there's only one. food source. But on these rivers, there's just constant fish coming out. So they they're just grabbing them and. eating them. And they're [ __ ]. gigantic because of that. >> We don't know [ __ ] about these animals,
man. No, little, >> you know. [clears throat and snorts] Uh. I just saw some [ __ ] about Florida. So. they they have a serious uh uh snake. problem now. >> Mhm. >> Like uh I think it's it's. >> pythons. >> Yeah, it's pythons. And um. >> how to [clears throat] do it on python. cowboy. He gave us a head. Where is that. head? >> Do you know what that head is? >> Well, yeah. Well, they so they they have. they've been trying to catch So, apparently it came from the 80s and the. 90s of like a big python pet boom and.
then. >> it was a research center that got hit by. a hurricane. >> Right. That's what I was about to say. The hurricane came they released into. the wild. Now it's a problem and they. tried paying hunters to get them and. they tried to training dogs to find them. and nothing is good enough. But then. they made they made robot rabbits. You. see this? [laughter]. Yeah. They made they made robot rabbits. and they made them they made them they. put them in these boxes and they they. they generated fake body heat and and.
and and the scent of rabbits and. everything and it did attract it did. pull the snakes but it pulled everything. else too. So what ended up happening is. the the snake's only natural predator. was these was was alligators and the. alligators was [ __ ] these things up. and the the snakes purposely avoid the. al the alligators. >> So it end up having the opposite effect. The snakes stayed away and the. alligators were [ __ ] these boxes up. >> Oh wow. >> And it was almost a complete waste. But.
then one of the nerds as they were about. to shut the whole [ __ ] thing down, he. noticed in the data that. what they actually found out. So they. plugged it into AI and the AI did this. whole [ __ ] map of all the data cuz. because apparently before every attack. the uh the those boxes were still like. tracking movement and everything what. was going on. And they found out that. the animals have like highways.
So, it's not that the snakes were in. random places. It's that is that the. snakes and the alligators were using. these these highways that only they. could smell. >> of of like the quickest ways to get. through the Everglades and stuff like. that. And so they were able So now they. just they know where they are and they. know how they get from one part of the. of the swamp to the to the other. >> Ah, >> and they didn't. So we learned. something. We still don't know what the. [ __ ] to do about the pythons. They use. dogs a lot where the dogs find the eggs.
>> Well, they they've trained these two. dogs specifically, but but they got to. the point where it's like it, you know, you just it's just so much ground to. cover. Two dogs ain't going to do it. And it would cuz So that's the problem. with the pythons. I mean, we could wipe. them out if we wanted. >> I don't think we can. >> Well, well, the problem. >> the Everglades are so big. >> Well, that's my point is we can't af. We just haven't found a way where we can. do it where it doesn't cost just a crazy. amount of money. Well, you think about. all the money they do spend [ __ ] on. Like, if they got all this Somali.
daycare center money back, they can kill. [laughter] the SP. Yo, did you see Ilhan Omar? She was. reading off of a script. She's the woman. who's a congresswoman from Minnesota. from Minneapolis and she was read she's. connected at least accused of being. connected to the Somali daycare center. She's Somali. She's accused of being. connected to this fraud. So, she's. reading off this uh script and you know. how people write World War II and they.
use like I I for two. >> Okay. Yeah. >> She reads it as World War 11. [laughter]. >> This is a congress person. >> She's a congresswoman. See if you can. find the video, Jamie. It's It's kind of. adorable. It's kind of adorable because. I don't think English is her first. language already. At least it doesn't. Last time the Alien Enemies Act was. invoked, it was used to detain and. deport German, Japanese, Italian.
immigrants during World War 11. >> OH, TWO. >> AT LEAST [screaming] she caught it, though. >> I didn't know she caught it. I never saw. that. They always cut it off before she. caught it. >> Well, that's politics, bro. Politics is. [ __ ] brutal, man. >> It's gross. I don't understand why. anybody would want to go into it. But. you m how could you say World War 11? Like you know there haven't been. >> Oh, but I've said. >> nine other wars you forgot about. >> But I've said way dumber [ __ ] than. [laughter]. >> But have you ever readen off a written.
speech? >> I mean Oh man, I'm I would almost be you. know I do on a daily basis I do things. or say things that. like I'm like I I definitely shouldn't. have children, you know? Like I'm I'm. >> Well, if you did, they'd make fun of. you. I forget say stupid [ __ ] and my. kids make fun of me. >> It's normal. >> Yeah. >> It's part of being a person to pretend. that you don't say stupid [ __ ] But the. thing is like you and I say stupid [ __ ].
publicly. >> Like we'll say stupid [ __ ] on a podcast. >> Oh yeah. And sometimes sometimes you get. paid to pay for it. >> Mhm. >> But I'm talking about stuff that I would. that I would be embarrassed to have said. publicly. >> like World War I. >> Yeah. Like World War I because I I'm. telling you, I do [ __ ] like that all the. time. I have I have wacky uh Tony makes. fun of me all the time cuz he's like. you're like a cartoon character. I I. have that kind of luck where it's like. sometimes I just have those days, man. I. wake I woke I wake up this happened like. the remember when I was so last Tuesday,
right? last bottom of the barrel. You. walked in the green room and I told you. I I went to go smell the candle and I. didn't know those you know jelly roll. candles and it it's a bong and I wasn't. thinking about it and I went to smell. the candle and poured the wax on my. clothes right before I got to go off. stage and I was wearing like light pants. so it looked like I [ __ ] on my pants. as the wax was drying and and and that's. why I went home early that day cuz I was. like it was one of those days I woke up. and the day started that way. I I I woke. up to my CPAP machine crashing on the.
floor because I rolled over and pulled. it off my nightstand. >> And I get up to go to go deal with that. and I [ __ ] stubbed my toe and I'm. like, "It's going to be one of these. days. It's going to be one of these. [ __ ] days. I'm going to drop drop a. glass in the kitchen, you know.". >> So you just said, "Let's call it a day.". >> I said, "Let we got to call it. Go home. Go right to sleep.". >> Interesting. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So you gave up on the day? >> No, I still I mean I still ended up at. the [laughter] I ended up at the. mothership that night, but I. >> But how your set was good though? My set. was good, but I took a nap. I napped. till the mother ship. Nothing can happen.
while I'm sleep. Take this edible, take. a strong nap, get to the mother ship, do. my leave. >> Almost like it's a new day cuz you just. woke up. >> Mhm. But no, but then I spilled the wax. on me. >> Oh. >> So my brain was like, you don't get to. cheat. >> Interesting. The idea of good days and. bad days based on just like that's this. is what the the world has planned for. you today. This is a bad day. >> You know what it is? is if I don't get. the sunshine, like I because I'm a night owl, which. kind of sucks, but if if either I need. to stay up for the sunshine cuz my I got.
the blackout curtains, >> but if I if I wake up late in the day. and I don't get no sunshine, I just I. feel dumber. >> Yeah, definitely. I do too. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And when I if I wake up late, even. if I get a good amount of sleep, like. more than 5 hours, but if I was up. really late at night and then I wake up. late, I feel off cuz your whole system's. all scrambled. Your system is used to. waking up in the morning and going to. bed at night. But if you stay up late, like your brain is working on like 40%.
capacity. >> Sometimes I sometimes I cuz I'll get I'm. a big gamer. Sometimes I'll get it and. I'm one of those people like if I pay. $60 for a game or now it's like $80 but. I'mma play the [ __ ] out of like the day. it come out I'm playing it all night. >> So you playing online or you playing the. game itself? >> Both. >> Both. >> It depends. It depends on the game. >> What is the games that you like? >> Uh all type of [ __ ]. >> Like what's the big one right now? >> Right now the game I'm playing the most. is called Deadlock. It's not It's not. avail It's not open available to the.
public. >> It is? >> No, you. >> Dude, you're a developer. How do you get. this [ __ ] No, but you can get you have. to be invited. It's a closed what would. they call it? A closed beta or play. test. Closed play test. >> That's how hardcore you are. You get. invited to beta tests. >> Oh, yeah. I got I got a bunch of nerdy. friends. >> Wow. >> Uh yeah. Actually, my little one of my. little nerd groups is like it's it. through one of the servers at the mother. ship. We all game. We we on the same. Discord. We'll get on there. We Cuz it's. nice to have a group where it's like. some new [ __ ] come out and we like. >> yo. >> this is death lock. >> Oh yeah.
>> This looks cool. >> This [ __ ] cooler than a [ __ ] Oh. wow. >> It also will make you mad as [ __ ]. >> So. >> So it's third person. So you're looking. at it in third person. >> Yeah, it's third person. >> And you get to pick who you are. Oh, what was that? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There. Right now I. think there's 34 characters. So look, that's all different people. >> I know. What is There's a lot of. information on the screen that just. popped up. >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah. What's all those [laughter]. >> buddy? This. >> What are all those things? >> This is crazy. I'm gonna [ __ ] this up in. a bunch of people. Okay. So So basically. Okay.
So, so basically, so see see that bottom. that bottom left number, the green. number, 3003. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, those are souls, which is just. money, >> right? >> Money's or souls. >> Yeah. In this game, just think of souls. as dollars. So, she's got $3,000. >> And basically, so what she the thing she just left is. the is the is the lane she was in. And. basically, how good how well you're. playing the game, how many kills you. get, how many minions you're getting, you get more money. And the money lets.
you go buy those items. That's what all. those cards are underneath those people. It tells you what everyone's bought. >> Okay. >> And since this [ __ ] got the most money, she's bought the most stuff, which makes. her stronger. So, this game's all about. snow. It's all about getting getting the. money to get stronger faster so you can. win. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. She So, and and you. >> It's like a zipline. Is she on a zipline. here? >> Yeah. Yeah. Because if you see the see. on the right hand side, >> that's that that's the map. She's So, there's three different there's three. different lanes you have to control, right? And that big that big box is like the.
Man, this is a lot to uh. >> Is this like League of Legends but on. the ground? >> Exactly. Okay. I'm glad you put it like. that. But but that doesn't help Joe at. all. >> He's like. Yeah. [laughter]. >> Okay. So So, so see the yellow side. See. the yellow side on on the left hand side. of the map. Okay. That first tower is. where you start at. >> And and the point is to get stronger. Get underneath that. Destroy it. Then. you work down to the second one. That. one is a little stronger. It defends. itself. That's what she's in front of.
right now. Right. And then. >> they're on teams. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's two teams trying to And. you're basically you're trying to work. yourself down to their base and kill the. kill the one in their base. >> Oh wow. So you gang you join up with a. team of guys that are playing this. online. >> Yeah. It's six on six. >> Oh wow. >> Um but then they just But here's the. thing. This is all very complicated and. all this, but they just introduced brawl. mode, which is or street brawl, which is. basically it knocks it down to four on. four. It t it makes it one lane and it. gives you random items. So you don't.
have to do any of the complicated [ __ ]. You can just get in and get in. >> So you get in, run around, grab. something, and beat people up with it. >> Yeah. Like the the So basically the the. brawl mode is just a condensed version. of the game where you're just fighting. You're not you don't have to worry about. managing anything. Boy, that looks like. it would take up a lot of time. >> Oh, buddy. [laughter] Yeah, cuz here. because here's the thing. This what's. crazy about [ __ ] like that is if you're. if somehow you end up in a game where. everyone knows what they're doing and. everyone's communicating, one of those.
games can be over in 25 minutes. But if. you're on a that's probably not going to. happen. It so it could go anywhere from. 25 minutes and I to to an hour. I've. seen games go an hour. >> Yeah. So it's like but most of if a game. is going that long it's just because. it's either because people are playing. with you because it's one of those. things where like if you get be if you. get behind to a certain point you can't. come back. That's the whole point of the. game. >> Oh really? >> Yeah. It's it's the whole point is a. snowball. It's like I'm so much stronger. than you that there's nothing you can.
do. It gets to the point where I'm just. abusing you. >> Okay. It's just because they've. collected the most stuff. >> because they just they they had they've. had the most money for the longest. >> Oh. and they can just keep buying better. and better [ __ ] than you and there's. nothing you can do about it. Um, but my. point is you the point is for you to get. to a certain point and just end the. game. But some people don't know when. that is. You know, >> here's the quick uh three sentence. overview of what the game is is a. futuristic urban fantasy New York. You're gods part of an occult ritual.
trying to destroy each other. >> Yeah. So I'll be So the back the. backstory is an event happened called. the malstrom. >> that [laughter]. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, this is just the back. story. It opened up a portal that let. magic magic into the world. >> and all of these people got all these. abilities and powers and stuff like that. >> and and there's two opposing gods in. some other dimension and they want you. to summon them so they can cross over. into this realm. And and so there when.
so the team you're on is whichever god. you're working for, >> right? >> And if you when you win the game, that's. supposed to be you completing the. ritual. And if you help complete the. ritual, you get a wish. >> And so when you when you go to each. character, it tells you their backstory. and what they want what wish they want. when they get there. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. And some people don't want. nothing. They just want to [ __ ] people. up. >> And how long you been playing this game? [sighs]. >> It's been probably, I don't know, a year and a half. So, this seems super complicated and like it.
would dedicate a considerable amount of. thinking. >> It's very complex. You cuz you don't you. you don't even know what the [ __ ] you're. doing for like the first 200 hours. [laughter]. >> Like it it takes about 200 hours before. you're like, "Okay, I kind of I kind of. get what's going on.". >> This is the kind of things that. [clears throat] people without kids say. >> Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying. I I. just I can't I'm not I'm definitely I'm. definitely a 43 year old child. Like I. don't live like an adult. >> Yeah. No, I live like almost like a frat.
like a frat boy or something. >> Well, if you could pull it off, those. are when you ask people cuz some of the. happiest times of their life [laughter]. for. >> when they were young and free. Especially people that don't like what. they do, >> right? People get a job and they don't. like it and then they have. responsibilities and they can't leave. their job. >> [ __ ] Or people that get a wife and. don't like her. >> That happens a lot. >> That happens too much. >> Well, that happens too much. [laughter]. and a husband you don't like too. Both. both sides. >> Oh yeah, that's probably worse.
>> It happen. Well, both of them are bad, but it happens a lot. A lot of people. >> Are you gaming one of these, Brian? >> Um, that was. insane. That's. >> But that seems like how you should be. playing a game like this, right? >> Yeah. In a dark room. Let's talk. >> Yeah. I mean, but the thing is that I. don't think that chair is very. comfortable. >> How dare you? That chair goes upside. down. You're laying down, brother. >> There's versions of it you could make. You could customize. >> Oh [ __ ] How much? Six grand. So wait a. minute. It. >> This is zero gravity. Watch. Hit the.
different images. Look at it. It's like. that, Brian. >> Oh, that's crazy. >> That's what I'm talking about. >> That's crazy. But what else does it do? Does it massage? >> Sucks your dick. >> I mean, 10 grand. >> Mouth comes out. Just sucks your dick. >> Yeah, I'll take that. Can you piss in. that? >> Well, it used to be 10 grand. It's on. sale. >> They have the one that's also like the. Have you seen the bed version? >> The what? >> Well, this one. This one does go. backwards, right? Show Show a version of. it where it's completely reclined. >> That's what I was trying to. >> You got this [ __ ] don't you, Jamie? >> No, but I've said Oh, it's a Scorpion.
>> Let me show you something else. Hold on. >> So, >> that's pretty wicked. >> And so, you can adjust that and you can. make the screen right in front of your. face. >> Yeah, bro. I'm about to skip four heart. treatments and get that chair. [laughter]. >> I'm about to get that [ __ ]. >> This is the other version. That one's. pretty cool, too. It's quite the same. >> I actually prefer what we're looking at. here. >> This do you? >> Well, >> you prefer that to the the one that you.
lie back. >> Cuz I don't I don't use a only The only. games I use a controller with is Madden. >> So, you're a a mouse and keyboard guy. >> Yeah. Almost exclusively. >> That's what I am. >> A little futon built on. >> I never play. I never figured out how to. use. >> [ __ ] that futon. Listen, if you going to. Who's choosing a futon? If you got the. money for a good gaming PC, you you. better not have no futon. >> Well, that's He just went all in on the. gaming PC. >> Yeah. I mean, no choice, no chance of. [ __ ]. >> My shit's got kind of my It's gotten.
kind of crazy recently. >> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Did I Did I ain't never show. you? Check this [ __ ] out. >> What you got? >> Um, hold on. Let make sure. >> Are there any other ones that do it with. a even bigger screen like that? That. kind of a deal? Like what is the. ultimate setup for like somebody like a. Bill Gates wanted to start? There's a. new uh like the for the F1 rig we have. Yeah. There's a new screen that's come. out that's like a 106 even. I don't. know. >> So that that's my [ __ ] right there. >> Ooh. Oh, you got a dual monitor setup.
Curved monitors. >> Two uh dope super ultra wide. [sighs]. >> That's a problem. >> Yeah, it's a problem. >> That's a problem. >> Yeah, it is. >> Um I'm going to send this to me. Send it. to me and I'll send it to Jamie. Oh, do. you have Jamie's number? >> Yeah, I know. I got Jamie's number. >> Send it to Jamie because that that image. is crazy. We need to show people that. image. That's a problem. If I had that, that'd be a real problem. >> Um Jamie, don't I got your number? Don't. >> I do my best writing, like when I get.
the most done on my laptop because I. don't ever look at anything else on that. laptop. The only time I use the internet. at all is to check things to like find. out if something's real. And even that I. don't use anymore because I use. Perplexity for that now. I just talk. into the the phone. But when if you have. that much distraction, >> like two monitors like that, I would. never leave. I would just be playing. games all It's too fun.
>> It's It's a It's too much. >> It's too much sometimes. It is. It is. >> And uh. >> it's a they're a [ __ ] problem, man. Games are a problem because they're so. good. >> You know what it is, man? Is it It's a. It's a dopamine drip. >> Look at that. Look at that setup, bro. What's that thing on the right? >> Um, that is for controlling the sound. So So basically like uh so say I'm in. the I'm in the chat. I'm in the Discord. chat and uh.
>> uh and and I got a YouTube video planned. and I'm in the middle of a game. Right. >> Right. Then. I don't I can I can reach over and turn. down the volume of the game so I can. hear somebody more clearly or turn up. the music and without having to open up. anything on my. >> That's crazy. You are an addict. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> Jamie, you don't have that, do you? I. was going to show you mine. He's got. I've got way more than that. [laughter]. >> Oh yeah. No. Yeah. Jamie's out of.
control. I have I have a soundboard. played or connected into mine so I can. [ __ ] with [clears throat] people. and stuff. >> Can you can you blur that top thing cuz. that's got it's got people's names. >> Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, I will. >> Um yeah, but like I can record sound. like live sound when someone's chatting. and I can record their voice and play it. back like instantly. That's amazing. >> This is me not streaming. I'm I'm going. to start streaming this summer. So, I'm. going to have to add a couple of things. >> So, you're going to start playing video. games and streaming it? >> Yeah, >> you can make a lot of money. >> It's easy money, too. It's crazy cuz.
you're already going to play games. >> And I know some I know some people just. like they don't go on the road because. they make so much money doing this. >> Wow. But the problem is how long is that. going to last? Going on the road is. forever. >> Oh yeah, but you can always do that. >> Yeah, but you might not have an audience. anymore. >> You have that audience? >> Oh, that's true. >> But they'll be they'll be still stuck. >> You ever you ever had T pay on here? >> No. >> Yeah. T Payne he's one of like he don't. he's like yo you got to you got to offer. me a lot of money. because he still goes. on the road, but it's like you gotta pay. him because he makes so he's like, "Why. would I leave? Why would I take less.
money to leave my house?". >> So, he just streams. >> He streams. Yeah. >> His setup he's got is [ __ ] crazy. >> It's insane. >> Yeah. >> He's like, we have one F1 setup. I think. he bought six. Uh he's got his whole. studios in one room. He's got the racing. room over here. He's got the the I think. probably four different rooms. >> for different things. So, >> and he'll game or he'll have on guests. or he'll just make a he'll just make a. song live in front of you. >> It's just his like normal live setup. He's got.
>> he's got fun setups. He's got See, he's. got multiple screens around there. >> Oh, that's crazy. So, he has a whole. room dedicated. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh my god. >> It's all wired together, too. >> Oh, so when he's streaming, how is he. making money? >> Sponsors. I think he he's definitely a. Twitch partner of some kind. >> Okay. So you you get sponsors and like. how much do you think he's making? >> [ __ ] I I couldn't I don't even I mean. if I had to speculate. >> Yeah, speculate. >> I would say he's probably make pulling.
in at least. a quarter million a month or something. like that. Probably more than that. >> Just playing video games. >> Just just streaming. He don't even have. to play video games. Sometimes he's just. talking. >> That's crazy. Just Well, there's a lot. of that, right? A lot of streamers. >> Yeah. That there's. >> like a lot of political streamers that. just talking. There's different people. that do different things. There's in. there's they call them IRL streamers. There's nuisance streamers where they. >> nuisance. >> Yeah. They just walk around with people. [ __ ] with people. Yeah. >> Two drip simulators, two circuit racing. simulators, and one flight simulator.
down there at the end. >> So, this is the VR room. >> Wow. >> The computer I play on is right here. >> You step down here. >> Wa. >> It's VR. We got sensors in the roof. >> This is the workshop. It was just a. utility room, but I'm like, why not put. 3D printers in there? This is 3D. printers. As you can see, I took a lot. of inspiration from Tron. Hold on. [laughter]. >> That's amazing. >> And was And he's And he's married. though. >> Yeah. But he's making money. This is his. wife. [laughter] How's his wife going to. complain? You want to go shopping?
Listen, lady. This is how we make the. money for you to go shopping. >> You're right. You're right. >> You know, I mean, she can't complain if. that's what you actually earn money at. >> You know, my wife used to complain about. the podcast before I started making. money. >> Really? >> Well, she was like, "You don't have to. do that." I was like, "I do. I have to. do it." I told people I'd be doing it on. Monday at x amount of whatever whatever. time it was. >> you. But that's just always. >> how long until you were like I could. [ __ ] this is making money. >> Oh, it took years. I didn't even try. I. never tried to make any money with it.
>> I always did it for free. I did it for. fun. >> For how many years? >> I didn't make money for years. >> Oh wow. >> Zero money for years. >> I never even thought of it making money. It was just for fun. I would just have. everybody come over like Siguro would. come over, Eddie Bravo would come over, Joey would come over, Duncan. We would. just talk [ __ ] and just have laughs. It. was just for fun. We enjoyed the [ __ ]. out of it. We had a vaporizer. This. giant bag, >> the volcano. >> Yeah, the volcano. Oh my god, the thing. was horrendous.
>> I remember when them things first came. out. They [ __ ] a lot of people's. world. >> [ __ ] a lot of people [ __ ] our world. up. There's a lot of podcasts in the. early days that are unlistenable or. watchable because we're just. obliterated. >> And I I thought it could never get past. that. And now they got, you know, then. they then people came up with the dabs, >> bro. Jelly Roll has this machine. It. looks like a robot. It looks like a. little like a little Pokemon robot. >> Yeah. Wait a minute. Is it that Cuz. Frank Castillo is one of the He's like. sponsored by those people. >> That's crazy. >> Those things are crazy. >> It's called Peak. The Peak people. You. don't know.
>> I don't know if it's a Peak. It looks. like it's a device. He scared me just. looking at it. >> Can you look up the Peak Pro? >> It's big like this uh like this French. press. >> Yeah, bro. And listen and every time I. see Frank, they've come out with a new. one. They have one that they have one. that's like a Sherlock Holmes pipe. It's. all electronic and it's all for dabs. But every time every time he visits me, he's like, "Hey, bro, check this [ __ ]. out.". >> People like him with a reason why weed. still isn't legal. [laughter]. >> Well, actually, I just read something. today that Trump is Trump is making um. >> It's schedule three now. >> Yeah. >> Oh, he Oh, it's done. >> It's done. Weed. >> Yeah, weed is schedule three.
>> So, schedule three. First of all, it. should be right with alcohol. If you're. 21, leave me the [ __ ] alone. >> Wait, is what is what schedule is. alcohol? Alcohol is not scheduled. It's. not a prohibitive substance. I don't. think alcohol is scheduled like that. Alcohol for 21 and older is totally. legal. So, schedule one, which is where. weed was, which is so crazy. Said it had. no medicinal benefit, harm, addiction. Now, I won't argue addiction because I.
don't think I totally understand it the. way other people understand it. I think. it's highly genetic. I think addiction. is very genetic because people keep. telling me that cigarettes are addictive. and that nicotine is addictive. I. recently got off of um. >> nicotine patches and I started taking. ultra patches. Do you know what these. are? Pouches rather. They're it's like. neutropics. It's like vitamins like. brain vitamins. >> Is there nicotine in there? >> No, no, no. Um and when I started doing. it, I was like, "Okay, I wonder if I'm.
going to like I've been doing a You want. to try one? Here. >> That one's empty. Um, I just bought. these off of Amazon, but um, I was like, I've done it before when I went on. vacation. Like, I didn't have them at. all and I didn't have any withdrawals. But then I talked to Macan and Macan. said that when he got off of them, it. was like two weeks where he was like. [ __ ] super tense and yelling at. people. No, no, no. Oh, nicotine. >> Nicotine pouches or cigarettes. He got. off of all of it. >> Um, and then I hear, but so my point is.
I think it's a biological thing. I don't. think I have the bi I I get addicted to. stuff. I get addicted to doing things. >> like I get I used to be addicted to. video games. I would definitely get. addicted again if I started playing. I. get addicted to pool. I get addicted to. martial arts. I get addicted to doing. stuff. I get addicted to archery. But I. don't think I get addict I probably. would if it was like oxies or something. like that. I get I think that's just too. strong. That would just get I think I'm. too much of a control freak to get.
addicted to any kind of hard. >> Well, you quit cigarettes like that. >> Yeah, but you know what? You know why it. was easy? It's because I had a heart. attack. >> Yeah, but the heart attack did it for. you. >> It did. And and I already felt like. [ __ ] so I didn't go I didn't The. withdrawals were nothing. >> Um I'm going to send you something. Uh. Jamie, this is kind of crazy, but uh I. sent this to Tom Cigur. I said, "It's. time to start smoking again." Because. there's this guy that's making this. argument that there's a benefit to. smoking as long as you do it with the. proper diet, that there's some sort of.
an actual benefit to cigarette smoking. Because one of the things about these. blue zones where people like live. forever, a lot of these people that are. like living that are really old, they. smoke cigarettes. >> Yeah. That's what tripped me the [ __ ]. out. Like you know, every time they. every time they go, "This is the oldest. person alive. They 109 right now." And. they ask them, they go, "What's your. secret?" They go, "Uh, smoke. I drink. fire water. [laughter]. And [snorts]. >> so listen to this. Smoking is good for. them. Top heart surgeons claim. >> is breaking the internet. Clip is. exploding after cardiothoracic.
surgeon Dr. Steven Gundry made a claim. that's turning everything people thought. they knew about smoking upside down. His. argument is smoking, specifically. nicotine, can have real benefits when. paired with the right lifestyle. At one. point he even says about a patient. probably it's because he smoked that. he's doing so well. points to long. living populations where heavy smoking. is common. Claims that in part of. sardinia, 95% of men smoke and live. longer than the women. Says nicotine. acts as a powerful mitochondrial up.
uncoupler. Uh argues that the damage. blamed on smoking can be offset by diet. and suggest that we've been looking at. it completely backwards. According to. him, the real question isn't why smoking. harms people. It's why some smokers live. longer and what we're missing. So, there's a video in here. Listen to him. talk about it because it's. >> it's eight minutes long. I don't know. >> Yeah, but just play a little bit of it. because it's kind of interesting. Credit to Dr. Mike on YouTube. [snorts].
>> Been smoking for 45 years and they're. living a healthy life. And they say it's. cuz I smoke and obviously we laugh about. it because we all agree that it's not. true. So, why did this one case move. you? So, >> actually, let me stop you right there. Probably it's because he smoked that. he's doing so well. Okay, we need to back up. How how do we. get there? >> Uh well, I have a whole whole chapter in. gut check looking at the healthiest, longest living people. And one of the. unique features of most of the blue. zones is that particularly the men are.
heavy smokers. >> and the smoking actually the nicotine in. cigarettes is one of the best. mitochondrial unconlers that's ever been. discovered. And we've looked at this. through the wrong wrong lens. We said, "Wow, what other healthy lifestyle. things are these guys doing that's. preventing smoking from harming them? In. fact, we should have looked at it the. other way. What is it about these people. who are smokers that allows them to live.
to 105, 110 years old?" And when you do. that, then you say, "Okay, smoking was. good for them. Why don't we see the. oxidative stress that smoking we all. know occurs? Why don't we see the. cancers in these people? And it's. because the rest of their diet. facilitates the absorption of the. oxidative stress in these guys. >> So your state is that. if you smoke but eat in this specific. way, you can negate the effects of.
smoking, the negative effects of. smoking. >> Yeah. What's fascinating as a heart. surgeon, uh, way back in the good old. days, most of our patients were smokers. and they had specific proximal lesions. in their coronary arteries. The rest of. their blood vessels were absolutely. gorgeous and they were skinny for the. most part. So, >> how did you gauge that? Did you. >> What do you mean we operate on. >> But you operate on what other vessels. that you saw? Like you would do. peripheral arterial disease screenings.
on those patients. >> and you would find. >> I used to operate on. >> because one of the number one risk. factors for peripheral arterial disease. is smoking. >> Correct. Because the smoking the. oxidative stress isn't facil isn't. stopped by our current diet. Let me give you an example. >> Okay. >> Um we're one of the few animals that. don't make vitamin C. Mhm. >> And vitamin C. And I've written about. this. So. >> sure, keep going here.
>> We get it. >> I mean, it he's. send people to Dr. Mike's YouTube. channel for the rest of it. But. >> Dr. Mike wasn't having it. >> Well, he didn't know. I mean, this guy's. the expert. And this guy lays it. And. Dr. Mike's open-minded. He's he's. probably what he's saying is making. sense. >> It made sense to me. >> It's the poor diet. >> No. Yeah. That's That's why I was I was. hoping that video would give me hope, but I'm like, "Bro, I could if I could. change my diet, I wouldn't have had the. heart attack." [laughter]. You know, like, "Oh, so I'm I'm going to. have I'm going to get this perfect diet.
so I can smoke." Nah, I don't think it's. a perfect diet. I think you just got to. move to Italy. Bro, whenever I whenever. I go there on vacation, I'm like, "Why. am I trying so hard? What am I doing? How come I'm not just chilling?". >> Well, you know, that that's the thing. about Italy is they have a they have a. culture of chilling. >> Yeah. Yeah. Like their culture. I forget. what they call it. But is it siesta? >> No, that's Mexicans. >> They call it like that nap they take. during the middle of the day. >> Yeah, that's only No, no, no. It's It's. a Spanish thing, too. >> Oh, okay.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They But they I didn't. know they did it in Mexico. >> Obviously, it's Spanish word, right? >> Oh, yeah. I didn't know they did it in. Mexico, but. >> Yeah. It's a Mexican thing. >> The Spanish are like, "Nah, middle of. the afternoon, everybody napping.". >> Yeah. My friend went to the Ferrari. factory in Italy. He said, "Dude, it's. hilarious." He goes, "They barely work.". He goes, "They like the reason why it. takes so long to get a Ferrari." He. goes, "These [ __ ] are just. chilling." [laughter] And he goes, "They. take these big long Oh, it was. Lamborghini." Yeah. He said, "They take. these big long breaks for lunch. They. eat pasta and they drink wine and they.
lay down. They take like a couple hours for lunch. and they work a few more hours and then. they go home. >> They got it figured out." Well, I think. we work too much, you know, and this is. coming from someone who works too much, but I work too much at things I love. It's a different thing, I think, than uh. most people. Most people are working too. much at something that's just making. them money and they're probably stressed. out all the time and don't enjoy it. >> But I think if you are working less and. just having more enjoyment in life, what.
are we here for? >> See, that's why I'm that I think. subconsciously that's why I've been. avoiding streaming. I've been talking. about it for years cuz I'm like if I. start making money. >> and then it becomes a job, >> bro. I'mma be like that. You know that. fat kid in the chair in Wall-E. You ever. see that movie? >> Yeah. >> That I'mma transform into that. [laughter]. >> Just Uber Eats. >> Yeah. If I start making. millions of dollars just eating and. laying there, >> everybody lo. >> and no exercise at all. >> Oh yeah. >> Well, the more you stream, the more you.
make, right? So there's people that. stream more than eight hours a day, don't they? I mean, theoretically, yeah. But some people stream a lot and they. don't make [ __ ]. >> you know? >> Yeah. But that's also podcasting. There's a lot of people that are doing. podcasts that aren't making any money. >> Yeah. So, yeah, but you got to stream to. make money. You got to be on. >> Yeah. [clears throat] But it's a very. specific type of audience, too, though. It's people that are watching streams. Very different audience than who's. watching podcasts, I would imagine. [sighs]. >> Damn. It's hard to say. >> Yeah, >> it's hard to say. Yeah, cuz I think uh I.
I don't know if those there's probably a. lot of overlap in those audiences. >> So I don't what we were talking about. before with the smoking. I don't think. smoking is good for your lungs. I think. it's bad for your lungs cuz everybody I. know that quit smoking. They say their. cardio gets better. >> This is a this stuff this that interview. you or we shared came out two years ago. >> Oh, did it? >> And there was some controversy around it. and. >> Well, clearly. >> Well, what does what does it mean? >> Blue zone. >> Well, [snorts] that that doctor. >> places where people live longer. >> Oh, okay. >> Uh okay. Hey, so here what it says. Uh,
key details regarding Dr. Gundry. statements. Controversial claims. In a. conversation with Dr. Mike Gundry. suggested smoking could be linked to. longer life, observing that some long. lived individuals in blue zone smoke. Mechanism theory. Gundry argues that. nicotine functions as a mitochondrial. uncoupler and that a high polyphenol. diet may mitigate the negative effects. of cigarette smoke. Criticism. Experts. strongly disagree, noting that smoking. is the leading cause of premature death. and that any potential benefits are far. outweighed by risks. Right. But they're.
not taking into consideration what he. said about food. Uh despite the. headlines, Gunley stated he does not. smoke and does not encourage others to. do so. So he's just a scientist relaying. research. >> Yeah. So what are the critics strongly. disagreeing with? So they're not they're. not making any sense because they're. disagreeing but they're not addressing. what he's saying in terms of the high. polyphenol diet mitigating the negative. effects of smoking. >> Yeah. I mean that's all he said was what. he observed. >> This is what I think in my years of. trying and using nicotine. Um I think.
there's something to nicotine. The. reason why I am backing off of it is it. [ __ ] up my pool game. >> Really? >> Yeah. Nicotine gives you a lot of energy. and uh I think like these like these. Alps, these are like six milligrams and. then these Lucy's I have Lucy's that are. 12 but you put them in your mouth it's. like you're sucking on a battery. It's. like they're so strong it's ridiculous. Um they make you jittery and jittery is. not good for pool. Pool is a chill game. Pool is like you're concentrating but. you want to be completely calm when.
you're stroking the ball. Like your hand. you're barely holding on to that queue. I hold on the queue like I'm holding a. baby bird, you know? It's very calm. You. don't want to be like, you know, so co a. lot of people stop drinking coffee. because they play pool. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um but nicotine in. particular, but which is interesting. because I know a lot of people who smoke. cigarettes who play really well. Maybe. it's a different feeling in terms of. like how it affects your body than Oh, you see that's a good question. How much.
nicotine is in a cigarette versus like. one of these ALP pouches? These ALP. pouches is Tucker Carlson's company. >> It's probably also has to do with like. your level of addiction. Like some. people are. >> fully Yeah, they some people smoke all. day cigarettes just to be back to zero. >> John Melanchamp, he was in here. That. dude just that was like one of the big. things like can I smoke during the. podcast? I'm like absolutely no worries. I go we got a fan. We smoke cigars all. the time. So he just chain smoked the. entire podcast and he said, "Find what.
you love and let it kill you.". >> That's what he said about cigarette. smoking. >> Oh yeah, that's a [laughter] a ch who's. that who is that quote from? >> I don't know. [snorts and clears throat]. Uh typical nicotine amounts. Okay. Standard factory-made cigarette usually. contains about 10 to 14 milligs of. nicotine and tobacco, which an average. smoker absorbs around 1 to 2 milligrams. when smoking it. Nicotine pouches are. sold in strengths that commonly range. from 2 milligs up to 12. My god. >> Uh or more of nicotine per pouch. CDC. notes that they can contain high levels.
of nicotine. Um pouches that with 6. milligrams nicotine or less were most. common, but higher strength 8 milligram. pouches have uh been growing quickly. Yeah. Because people are getting. addicted. Cigarettes deliver nicotine to. the brain very fast within 10 to 20. seconds after inhalation, which makes. them high highly reinforcing and. strongly addictive. Pouches release. nicotine through the lining of the. mouth. So the rise in blood nicotine is. slower and more prolonged compared with. a cigarette hit. Though total absorbed.
dose over 20 to 60 minutes can be. similar depending upon strength or how. long the pouch is used. But the thing. about like pouches is people just keep. popping them. Like Shane, that dude just. pops them every 10 minutes. He's popping. six milligrams like every 10 minutes. Combustible cigarettes clearly more. harmful overall because smoke contains. more than 7,000 chemicals, many toxic. and carcinogenic, whereas pouches avoid. combustion but still expose you to an. addictive drug with cardiovascular. effects. >> Well, that's why I'm convinced that.
people that do all the other forms of. nicotine are are way more addicted than. smokers are. >> Well, I'll tell you one thing that I. felt was the most addictive version of. it that I tried was vaping. those like Escobar things. Those those. are weird. Here's another weird thing. about those vaping ones. The only good. hit is the first hit. Maybe the second. >> Have you seen how vapor Have you seen. how vapor act when they can't find their. vape? >> Oh, they freak out. >> It's It is. >> They get sketchy. >> It's crazy. They get crazy. I saw I was.
in DC last year and. I popped in on this comedy spot. Um, and. I and I go and I go to the bathroom and. there's a vape sitting on the sink like. somebody put a vape there to wash their. hands or something. >> Mhm. >> And I go out to the bar and I remember. all the com I remember I bought the I. bought the comics like the comics are at. the bar waiting to go up and I bought a. round for the comics and one of them was.
like, "Oh, thanks man." and got up, went. to the bathroom, came back, sat next to. his friend, was like, "Oh, bro, I found. this vape in there." And they both hid. this vape. So, they went, he took a vape. out the bathroom that somebody else was. just sucking on. Some guy could have. been eating ass just 20 minutes ago. >> Right. Also, it was on the sink in the. back in the men's room at a comedy club. >> That's crazy. >> Hey, I found it. Let's take hits off of. it. That's crazy. >> It would be tough if that was my vape. and I set it on the counter and like, "Oh, shit." Cuz that's probably what. happened. Somebody set it there out of. reflex and was like, "I don't want that.
[ __ ] It's been s It's right here with. all this filthy. >> maybe. Or maybe they're like, I gotta. leave this thing here. >> This men's men's room sink water. >> Nah, you could keep that. >> You could keep and this these guys are. just sucking on it at the bar. But I. guess if you dip it in whiskey, it'd be. all right. >> Mhm. I don't know. >> Dip it in your glass before you take a. hit. >> Bro, you could just wait till you could. just wait till you get to your vape cuz. it's not. the the first hit is the only one that's. good. The first hit is like euphoric. The first hit of a like a Escobar,
you're like this, like [sighs]. everything's amazing. But that you don't. get that with the second hit. It doesn't. like maintain. After a while, you're. just taking hits and you just feel. nervous. Like this is terrible. This. doesn't feel good. But it's the first. hit. The first hit's wonderful. >> Oh yeah. You know how many you know how. many vapor I've had to curse out cuz. they unplug my phone to plug in their. stupid [ __ ] vape. >> They're like, "Yo, what? Yo, you was at. 30%." Like, >> what the [ __ ] is wrong with you? I need. it all day. >> Right. Don't unplug my [ __ ]. >> Junkies.
>> But they really are. >> junkies. Oh, they're junkies. I see. people hit them all the time. And they. they they hit them like a fiend. >> and and you know the worst thing is the. people that they try to start vaping. like to replace smoking. >> They just end up doing both. >> Well, I think the vaping is more. addictive than smoking. >> Oh, yeah. Cuz you can you know why? It's. cuz one, like you said, I think the the. you're getting delivered more nicotine. than than a smoker will get. Even though. look, smoking has other bad [ __ ] that.
you're putting in you, you know, but in. terms of addiction is what I'm saying. I'm not saying vaping is worse for you, but. >> but you're getting more nicotine and you. can you can vape in places you can't. smoke. >> And on top of that, you're getting all. these weird oils and chemicals and stuff. in there that aren't good for you. >> But you but you can vape anytime. You. can vape you can vape. >> But you know, like people are getting. these new diseases like popcorn lung. Have you heard of that? I heard of that, but I ain't heard of nobody that got it. I've heard like, you know, it's it's one. of those like uh what do you call them?
Urban myths or urban. >> There's a kid that I knew back in. California. He was one of uh one of the. people in our neighborhood's child and. he was 19 and he was in college and he. was vaping like crazy. He was vaping all. day long and he got pneumonia, wound up. dying. >> and they connected it to the vape. Like. he had destroyed his lungs. Kids are. damaging their lungs. But you know, I. think that started back when you. remember when some people have like the. adjustable ones where like you where. they.
>> Oh, the big ones crazy ones. >> cuz now the popular ones are like the. disposable ones that have. >> Adam Curry has one of them big jammers. >> Yeah. One of them big rigs. I think I. think people were going crazy back then. Like in the beginning of it when when. nobody knew a lot. >> The real vapors, man, they still go. crazy. But they they're doing it. themselves. They think it's healthier. They're getting like their own like. nicotine drops. They're putting it in. the thing and they're putting their own. oil. They're using like MCT oil because. it's healthy. >> This organic poison. >> Yeah. Whereas like if you're getting it. from a factory in China or Vietnam, have.
you ever seen that one? There's one. video of a dude who has to test every. vape when it comes out of the factory. >> with his with his mouth. >> With his mouth. The ones you get have. already been sucked on. So this dude is. just suck in Vietnam. Just I don't know. where he is. He might be in Laos. He's. just sucking just wherever this vape. factory is. This dude's just sucking on. this vape over and over and over again. Everybody's vape he sucks on once to. make sure it's good before he sends it. out. >> But we're doomed. >> So this guy's got what is his dose of. caffeine in a day? It must be off.
>> Yeah. So that that's the other thing. I. think the vapors are more addicted. because they get more nicotine. They. just get to do it. They just do it all. >> Yes. You could definitely do it. But I'm. telling you, it's like you don't get the. good feeling. Like it's weird. It's. weird. Like a cigar like the the. relaxation, the good nicotine feeling of. a cigar. You get that like every time. you take a hit out of a cigar. That's. not the case with a vape. At least to. not for me. Look at this dude. He's. sucking on every one of these. Checking. them out. Look,
>> that's nuts. >> They got to make sure they're good. Like, how vaped out is this cat? >> That's probably how that's probably he. gets paid in just vapes. Just smoke. I mean, how many [ __ ] thousands of. vapes is this kid sucking on in a day? How many do you test in a day? He says. [sighs]. around 7 to 8,000 tests per day. Jesus. >> Jesus Christ. >> Does that dude sleep at all? >> He probably dreams in like horrible.
black and white like lightning bolts. And. >> he also smokes after work. >> Oh my god. Someone should see how long that guy. lives. I mean, >> bro, that boy's done. >> Yeah. He's not in the blue zone. [laughter]. >> Oh, bro. >> I was just looking up lung. Yeah, >> it's it's older. It's it's develop. according to this. It came around 2000. when people at a actual popcorn factory. >> Whoa. >> were exposed to a chemical that was.
causing. >> what. >> called bronolitis obliterins. >> Bro, look at this. It's first recognized. from clusters of workers at a microwave. popcorn factory exposed to the. butterflavoring chemical diaetal. Wow. I thought it made your lungs look. like popcorn. This is saying there's. like it's very it's super rare for. outside of that actually though. >> Uh cancer researchers UK states that. there have been no confirmed cases of. popcorn lung specifically caused by. ecigarettes although some older.
e-liquids contain diaetal before. regulations tightened. Do you think. that's like big tobacco trying to scare. people away from vapes? >> No. No they No, I think they invested. [clears throat] in that [ __ ] Yeah, but. if they don't like what if it's like. some companies maybe don't. >> and they're worried that these cheap. vapes. >> Well, there's only there's only there's. only three companies. The big tobacco is. really big tobacco. >> So, it's R.J. Reynolds. What are the. other ones? >> Um, uh, Philip Morris or is it Philip. Morris? And then there's a and then. there's a overseas one. Maybe there's.
four companies. >> Who's making the American spirits? >> It's the same people. >> Is it the same people? >> It's is there's only three or four big. tobacco companies. >> This lady Suzanne Humphre who's a. doctor. She she was making the argument. that those cigarettes are probably not. even that bad for you. >> And and they own and they see the. writing on the wall. Like they own all. the p all the patch companies. They own. that [ __ ]. >> Of course. Of course. Why wouldn't they? >> Cuz the writing's on the wall. They're. start they they were talking about it in. Canada and now I think they're trying to. do it in the UK where basically like. people of a certain age will never be.
able to buy cigarettes. >> They Yeah, they I think they're doing. that in Canada right now or or they're. definitely doing that in the UK. That's. right. Uh, no. American spirit. cigarettes are not safer than other. cigarettes. Despite marketing that. highlights natural and addictive free. tobacco, studies show they contain. similar levels of toxic cancer-causing. chemicals as other brands. Research. suggests they may even be more addictive. due to higher nicotine levels. No. reduced harm, no evidence of the absence. of additives make cigarette smokes less. harmful. Uh, high nicotine addiction.
Studies have found that many varieties. have higher nicotine yields compared to. other popular brands, suggesting higher. addictiveness, misleading marketing. FDA. previously required the manufacturers to. stop using natural and additive free in. marketing as these terms falsely implied. lower risk. Why does that imply lower. risk if you say additive free? Consumer. misconception. 64% of American spirit. smokers incorrectly believe they're less. harmful, often because of their natural.
branding. This lady, this doctor was. making that argument. She was saying the. chemicals that they add to cigarettes. that make them more addictive. Like. remember that Russell Crow movie, The. Insider, you remember that movie? >> Good movie. It's about got about a guy. who is a a true story about a guy who's. a doctor who works at uh a tobacco. company that makes cigarettes and he's. specifically formulating these chemicals. in order to make people way more. addicted and then he has to go to court. and they try to kill him. It's like you. know big kind of whistleblower type.
drama. [snorts] But uh that was that was. the premise of that film which is also. based on real life. And what she's. saying is that those chemicals that make. you more addictive are probably much. more dangerous and that just the actual. tobacco itself is probably not as. dangerous. She wasn't definitively. stating this. She was just saying that. most likely they're probably safer for. you. >> Well, the American Spirit ones also you. smoke less cuz they take forever to. smoke. Like every time I'm I was smoking around.
an American spirit smoker, you know, you. you'll see a damn 3/4 of a cigarette. left in the ashtray. >> Do you think that those like Marros and. [ __ ] like that? Like they they smoke. quicker on purpose so that you smoke. more of them. >> I think they they're they're. >> I think something they add to them, make. them burn cuz that's the thing with. American Spirit. You set it down, it'll. it'll go out, >> right? >> But if you if I if I was to light a. Marbor and set it down there, it'll it. will burn all the way up, >> right? >> I think they do that. So you waste. cigarettes. >> That makes sense.
>> Oh yeah, for sure. For sure. >> That makes sense. Yeah, because they. probably calculate over time how much. money that would be. >> Yeah. In fact, I I read somewhere like. that is why there are 20 packs in a. cigarette in 20 cigarettes in a pack is. because they they discovered. uh that that's exactly how many you. needed to smoke as much as possible in. one day. Like in terms of how long the. how long it's in your system and when. you start getting another craving, you. can smoke. Well, that's crazy because. some people smoke two packs a day, three.
packs. >> Yeah, those people are like old. >> animals. How are they alive? >> I don't know. But I was getting close. >> What were you at? >> I was at a little over like I was at a. little over a pack a day where I would. smoke a I would go through a whole pack. >> and then tip into the next pack. >> and then dip into the next. Yeah, >> it makes sense that they would buy. patches. Why wouldn't they? And why. wouldn't they buy up the companies that. have alternatives like gum, nicarette? >> Years ago, the VA tried to get me to. quit and they they they prescribed me.
the patches. >> Yeah. >> But like you like I said, it's like. there's there's 12 to 14 milligrams in a. cigarette, but you only end up getting. one or two, right? >> But the patch is five. The low the. lowest step of the patch is five. >> And do you feel it? >> Yeah. You You have crazy [ __ ] dreams, too. >> Whoa. You put one of them patches on. before you go to bed, you going to [ __ ]. you going to have a [ __ ] crazy dream. And now you're more addicted. >> Oh, right. Cuz you're not used to. getting five. Now you getting five all.
night. You wake up like, "Oh shit." Like. you're not getting nic You're not used. to getting nicotine all night. Ron White. used to wear a patch and smoke all day. >> Yeah. That what that's what I was about. to tell you. It's like everybody I knew. that got on their patches was patching. and smoking. Yeah. Ron was patching and. smoking and then one hypnotism session. quit everything. cold turkey. >> Really? >> Yep. >> That's weird because he don't seem very. suggestible. >> I know, right? >> Yeah. I mean, I don't think I've ever. seen him change his mind about nothing. >> About nothing. Ever. All the arguments. that he's had with Tony in the green.
room. >> Oh, the [laughter] the I live for that. [ __ ]. >> I live for those moments. >> Those are hilarious. Ron digs his heels. in. >> Soon as I hear Ron go, "Well, well, >> yeah, >> I already know.". >> Well, that's not my experience. >> Yeah. He was wearing the patch and he. was smoking those little cigars. You. know those little cigars? >> He was smoking them like cigarettes. >> You're supposed to not inhale those. little suckers. Like those little. suckers have way more nicotine. >> You know those little tiny Monte. Cristos? Those little things. You're.
supposed to smoke those like a cigar. >> Like when I smoke them, I try to smoke. them like a cigar. You take you hold it. in your It's a tiny cigar. >> You You can't tell these Texas gentlemen. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> how not to smoke nothing. Well, Ron has. got amazing willpower because he he got. off the alcohol and just done. Never. touched it again. Got off the. cigarettes, done. Never touched him. again. >> Yeah, I love that guy. >> He's the best. He's the best. But it's. like that ability to just turn something. off like that.
>> The amount of m How much money? Let's. Let's look into that. How much money is. in the nicotine business overall in. America? It's probably way more now with. pouches and vapes on top of cigarettes. >> I think it's less now. >> But the thing cigarettes probably been. less, but now so many people are on the. pouches and so many people are vaping. >> Well, well, the thing is I think there's. I think there's less money overall. But. but that's why there's less companies. cuz they keep getting bought.
>> Right. >> Right. cuz people are smoking le like. kid the kids are smoke way less they. >> cigarettes. >> way less cigarettes and they they they. don't vape as much as we think. >> but I think there are a lot of them. around the zins a lot of them are on. pouches. >> let's guess what do you think the. overall industry of cigarettes or of. nicotine nicotine products in America. the collective amount of money that. nicotine products in America generate. every year. >> I'm gonna say 10 billion.
>> yeah that sounds about Right. >> Less it's less than 10 billion. >> for the whole country. I'll say six. Let's say 6 billion because there's 350. million people plus Mexican kids. >> That's just for the uh oral nicotine. >> is how much? >> Six. >> Whoa. >> Oh, >> cigarettes is. way higher. >> What is cigarettes? >> 76 billion billion. >> Oh [ __ ] That's more than sports, >> bro. That's crazy. football.
>> It's cigarettes and traditional tobacco. which you put in. >> like cigars. >> cigars and uh like uh um the speak of. which. >> hookas and stuff. >> but okay but what what what was it 20. years ago? >> Um it doesn't have 20 years ago from. what I looked but it does it has grown. >> It's growing slowly every year. >> It's a total of 100 billion when you. include everything together. >> That's crazy. Well, I mean, but it isn't. really crazy cuz it's one of the it's. one of the le it's one of the legal and. socially acceptable drugs to be on all.
day. Yeah. You can smoke it cuz you. can't even drink at work, >> especially if you use pouches now. Everybody's using pouches. >> They're predicting the pouches are going. to go from around 4 to 6 billion now and. by 2030, so it's only five to six years. from now, could get up to 50 billion. >> Well, here's the thing. They have. neutropic benefits like they do enhance. your cognitive performance. Nicotine. does. And um there's a lot of people.
that swear by them like for creativity. and stuff. Like one of the things that. Stephen King talked about in that book. on writing was that one of his biggest. uh bumps in the road with his writing. career is when he quit smoking. >> He's had a really hard time like getting. his synapses to fire the same way. said. it was really noticeable the difference. in quit quitting nicotine. But then again, his best [ __ ] he wrote. when he was on Coke. He was doing Coke. and drinking beer. >> Yeah. >> And he wrote his best craziest [ __ ] when.
he was doing that. >> No, but I'm I'm going to be honest about. that though. Like I don't I do feel less. creative. or le or less not create not less. creative but less. I don't know. It does feel like it feels. like my brain work is working different. >> What about cigars? You ever thought. about cigars or you just like think it's. too much of a gateway? >> Yeah, I would be right back on it. I'll. be right back on it. Maybe we can Can we. get some Can Are they nicotine drops, Jamie? You can just.
>> shoot it into your [ __ ] eyeballs. >> You [ __ ] with the pouches at all, or do. you worry that the pouches will bring. you closer to the cigarettes? >> No, but I've never [ __ ] with the. pouches. I don't know. >> You want to try one? >> Aren't I trying one? Oh, this doesn't. have nicotine in it. >> That has no nicotine. That's an ultra. pouch. >> Don't do it. >> No, no, no, >> no, no, no. Maybe the gum. Maybe I'll. I'll try the gum. >> Yeah, I've tried the gum. I like. pouches. >> How is that? >> I like pouches better. Um, it's. interesting that like they would. probably I wonder how much money is.
spent. How Okay, what is the patch? What's the patch worth? >> Like how much does that generate? >> Yo, you know what's wild? They was. trying to give me nicotine in the. hospital. >> For what? cuz they cuz they knew I was a. smoker and they were like, "You don't. you don't want any?" I was like, "No.". >> How were they trying to give it to you. in what way? >> I I don't know if it was a pouch or gum, but but [clears throat]. >> they have mints, too. >> It had been prescribed to me and it was. just sitting there and they and they you. know, and every time a shift change, somebody would remind me, "Hey, so you. know you got some you know you got some. [ __ ] already." I was like, "No, I'm. okay." [laughter]. >> They um I somebody sent me some nicotine.
mints and they made me nervous. Like I. didn't like them. They made me feel. uncomfortable. >> A tiny slice. >> Okay. Nicotine patches are a tiny slice. of the nicotine economy. the US, they. amount to at most a few hundred million. dollars per year versus tens of billions. for cigarettes and other nicotine. products. >> Yeah. But you know what? The reason they. the reason they still invest in them is. because every time you try to quit and. you use the pouches, when you come back, you're more addicted, >> right? >> That's so it's a cycle. >> Yeah. It's insurance that you'll get. back on the cigarettes. >> Yeah. Cuz I bet you they're not they.
probably don't track how many people. >> What's so funny, Jen? >> Nicotine replacement therapy. >> Therapy. The global nicotine replacement. therapy market, patches, gum, lozenes, etc. is around 3.1 billion therapy. >> Just reading that in this room sounds. like a silly. >> weird conspiracy or something like. >> predicted to reach 4.7 billion US by. 2034. >> But but it makes sense that they would. invest in that like, you know, why. wouldn't they? It's like if they're.
smart business people, you know. >> Yeah. Did you hear about that special. forces soldier that got in trouble. because he bet on Poly Market that U. Maduro was going to be kidnapped? >> Oh, they found out who it was. >> Yeah, they caught the dude. >> Oh, no. >> Yeah, he made four I believe he made. $400,000 and he tried to cover his. tracks, but. >> Oh, I thought it was like Trump's son or. something. People thought it was assumed. it was it was Don Jr. [sighs]. >> Well, who knows what they've done.
>> Oh, yeah. They did it all. They're. probably not looking at them the same. way they're looking at these special. forces. >> Boy, Trump don't leave no crumbs on the. table. He's like, I need all this bread. I'm on the way out. I still need this. bread. >> Yeah. I mean, think about that. The the. coin, the Trump coin. I mean, that's. crazy. That's crazy. It's legal, but. it's Melania coin. Like, >> bro, if you if you buying any. celebrities coins, you deserve to lose. your money. >> But I think it what Mezer explained to. me. He goes, "These are gambling. addicts. They're gambling." He goes,
"They know. They know that it's going to. crash. No one's under any illusion this. is going to last forever. They try to. get in and get out and make money while. they're doing it. It's like they just. figure out when to buy, when to sell. >> Yeah. But there are people that think. that, you know, those are those are the. suckers. Those are who you're getting. money from. It's the ones that think it. >> You could look at it that way. >> Yeah. >> Or you could look at it is this is an. effective way to pay people off. >> legally. So here's the thing. I'm not. accusing anybody doing this, but I'm. saying let's say if I started a JRE coin.
and uh maybe some Middle Eastern. government decided they're going to. invest $500 million in a JRE coin and. then I announce the JRE coin. They put. in the money to back this JRE coin. I. get a substantial stake in the JRE coin. So, I get a bunch of JRE coins and then. I just dump all my JRE coins and then it. go I get I get all that money and then. it goes from being worth X amount of. dollars to being worth almost nothing. >> Is that the pump and dump? >> That's the pump and dump.
>> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. So, that would be a way I'd pay. you. So, like say maybe if you and I had. some sort of a deal that was a little. shady and I said, "Brian, how about. this? I can't pay you outright, but what. I can do is why don't you start a. cryptocoin and I will invest in your. cryptocoin, which is a very legal. venture. And uh I will put in $100. million into your cryptocoin. And so now. your cryptocoin, a bunch of people will. also throw money in because there's $100. million in it and they know that it's. going to pump and dump. It's going to. happen like the real clever [ __ ] And. then you just get out. So you get out as.
soon as it hits the peak. like you get. it set up so that like it maybe peaks in. 24 hours or whatever the [ __ ] it is. Like let's like let's and again we're. not accusing anybody of anything, but. let's look at. >> nor are we taking notes. >> Um [laughter]. let's look at Trumpcoin. How much was. Trumpcoin worth like right after it came. out versus 5 days later? So somewhere that money has to go.
somewhere. And so if I invested in Brian. Simpson coin and then that money you it. got to the coin was worth I don't know. what what a coin's worth. I don't know. what it's worth, but let's just say it. got to its peak and then you sell and. you just dump all your coins and so that. you just rake in a big pile of money, millions and millions of dollars and. everybody else is like. >> they're the the people that like were. dummies, they don't get anything. And. then me I didn't expect to get any. money. I'm just trying to bribe you. I'm.
trying to pay you off. >> Well, the thing is America. Um Oh, yeah. The thing is America is like threearters. scams. >> A lot of scams. >> and some people sit around complaining. about the scams instead of getting in on. them. >> Did you hear what Dr. Oz said? >> No. >> Dr. Oz works for the the government now. Um they California has a big hostel scam. going on. You know how like Minneapolis. and Minnesota had the daycare scam? Cal. California has a bunch of fake hostiles. where they're taking care of people.
That's what it is, right? So they they. they shut funding down to 400 of them. Not one of them complained. >> They like, "Well, see you.". >> Yeah. >> And so it's his assertion that that's. because they were all scams. So that. Nick Shirley guy, the same guy that. investigated the fraud in Minneapolis, he's investigated some of the fraud in. California. And one of the things that. they found in some of his videos is like. a lot of these businesses are registered. to like a hotel. And like every room in.
this vacant hotel is a different office. for whatever company. And so each room. in the hotel is raking in money as an. office that's supposed to be working as. a a hostel or as some sort of a you know. a rehab center or you know fill in the. blank. They have all these learning. centers, all these different kinds of. things. And it's all just government. scams, Medicaid scams. >> Yeah. Get in [clears throat] on the. scam. >> Get in on the scam. >> Scamming is the American way.
>> Looking at it how you asked isn't the. best way to look at this. Here's what it. said, but of course not. >> Show you what it says after this, though. >> Okay. Trump's official Trump meme coin. uh launched at around$1 US range. reported roughly 0.18. to Z 1.20 20 and within about five days. it had crashed down from a brief spike. near 70 to75 US down to a high of 30s. per coin. So that's within 5 days. So it.
spiked at 75 then it dropped down to 30. Different data provides slightly. different start points but they are in. the same general zone. A crypto. analytics notes Trump was launched on. January 17, 2025. initially worth 18. cents per token. So everybody buys in. when that happens. Other coverage and. exchange post described trading. beginning around $1 or about $1 within. the first hours after launch. So. reasonable takeaway is launch price is. 0.2 to 1.0 US per Trump depending on.
which exact tick you chose. So within. first hours after the launch, the price. skyrocketed from around $1 to around. $75. So that's when you want to get out. within the first hours. Reports the same. weekend site highs near 70 to75 and a. market cap over 10 to 12 billion. A. finance report on days after launch. Trading started around $7 on Friday,
jumped as high as 74 on Sunday. So. that's when you're supposed to get out. So, let me ask this. What is it worth. now? >> That's like $2 now. >> Interesting. So, it got as high as $74. >> Well, now you got to hold on to it. >> Now you're [ __ ]. >> Just in case. >> There's a little bit more. It's like. there's [clears throat] more into it cuz. it's not the easiest coin to get and how. do you get it and all those kinds of. things come into play. And that's kind. of what I think this sentence is more. about. >> Right. But if it went to 75, somebody. must have made a ton of loot, right?
>> Had to. Yeah, that's why it says 800,000. wallets, which could be people, >> collectively lost around $2 billion. while the Trump Organization and. partners profited heavily from fees. Interesting. So that this is the thing. like that's just that one. What is the. worst pump and dump in cryptocoin. history? Let's look at that. >> Wasn't that. >> Let's find out. Sam Bank from Freed. >> I think it was him. >> Well, I think what he was doing, he said.
that if he was left alone, he would have. recovered the debt. and that he had been. doing this back and forth. They just. caught him in a moment where this one. guy sold all his coins off to try to. crash him on purpose like his rival and. then he didn't have the money to cover. the spread and then people wanted their. money out and then and then they. realized but he had been they all do. that apparently was what his I don't. know but that's what his argument was I. believe is that I think he said that if. he was not that they didn't interfere.
with him not only would those coins have. gotten the money back but they would. profitable today. >> See, I I have friends that have profited. from it, >> but when I hear them talk about it, it's. like I just don't quite understand it. fully. >> I feel the exact same way. >> And I can't put my money in some [ __ ]. that I if I can't articulate how them. how I can make money, I can't do it. >> Yeah. Not only do I not understand it, I. don't trust it. >> Yeah. >> It sounds crazy to me. >> People that try to talk you into it, they freak me out. [laughter].
Well, a lot of times they just No, there's a new scam. Somebody in my. family are getting caught up with these. [ __ ] scammers, but they're they're. they're finding elderly. It's like going. through the elderly community. A new a. new Ponzi pyramid. It's Ponzi scheme. >> Oh no. >> And they're basically they're telling. these old folks that they are joining a. crypto exchange, but the crypto isn't real. So they they. download they down they have they. download this app. >> and they telling them all you got to do.
is get up every morning and make these. trades and you make you make you know. this much percent of your money back and. so and they go and you know what and. just so you know it's not a scam. I'mma. put in a grand for you. I'm going put in. two [ __ ] I put in five grand for you. But you don't realize that money is fake. too. You download the app they can show. you however much money you want. >> but you can't get that money out. >> It's So here's how they get you. So they. get you either way. So if if you do so. the the the the ultimate plan is to lull. you into going like they want you to lo.
they want you to log on every day and. see that number going up and going oh. [ __ ] I'mma put my money in there so so I. can make even more money right that's. the ultimate plan but if you even if you. got suspicious. and you like I want to take my money out. where they go okay we just send us a. early withdrawal fee so they only end up. getting a little bit of money out of you. but they still get real money out of you. for no money. >> and And even if you end up getting so. suspicious that you won't even do that. Well, they they they got you to download.
this app on your phone. And so they got. your information. Oh, yeah. >> Most people use the same login. credentials across apps. So you done. gave them that as well, >> right? >> You know, or your. >> they got your email address. They can. sell that. >> And they they have your they have your. security questions, so they know your. first dog's name and [ __ ] like that. >> So it's like at the very least they get. away with your info, >> right? >> Or some of your real money, >> you know? And and old a lot of old. folks, they hear crypto and they don't. really understand it. So, it's easy to. convince them that, oh, it's just. something I don't understand. But this.
app makes it easy for me. >> Isn't it crazy that the poly market. thing for this special forces soldier. that he's going to jail for this, but. Congress is allowed to insider trade? >> Oh, bro. bro. >> And that that's kind of crazy because. you can't be you can't be sure that the. mission to try to overthrow Maduro is. going to be successful, right? >> So if they're trying to overthrow. Maduro, that's a military operation. They're not always successful. So if. he's gambling on a military operation.
that he's about to embark in, he's kind. of betting on his own life. >> Well, I think what they're getting him. for is more that he endangered the. mission. >> Really? Cuz I seem cuz uh Yeah. Because. you're. because if if if we're supposed to keep. our military movements a secret and it. gets out there that someone keeps on. predicting when we're going to make. certain movements, then our enemies will. be watching poly market for when people.
bet on. >> That actually makes sense, right? Is. that really the case, Jamie? What is he. in trouble for? >> Uh I mean, I was I'm reading through the. justice.gov thing. what Brian was saying. started to make sense off of here. But. at the bottom it says the actual charges. and the charges are three counts of. violating the Commodity Exchange Act. each, which carries a maximum of 10. years, one count of wire fraud, which is. a 20-year max, one count of unlawful. monetary transaction, which is a 10-year. max,
and what's the other one? Well, that's only two, but it says. there's three. M. >> that's crazy because like. how come no one in Congress ever gets in. trouble? >> They do sometimes. >> I don't know. >> when they don't vote correctly. No, like. every year somebody goes down. >> They're not insider trading. They get. busted for other [ __ ]. >> Yeah, you're right. For like taking. bribes and stuff like that. >> Yeah. Has anybody ever been busted. Congresswise for insider trading on. stocks? >> I don't think so. If I guess there was.
another controversy recently u they're. accusing Federan of doing But the type. of [ __ ] the average person go to jail. for. Oh my god. >> What? >> You want to talk about something that'll. piss you off about somebody going to. jail? >> Yeah. >> This guy in Florida, what was his name? Um, >> yeah. A few people have for sure. >> Really? Congress people for insider. trading? >> Yeah. Even recently. >> That's crazy. >> Uh, it says rep from New York, Chris. Collins, plead guilty in 2019 to insider. trading and lying after Tiffany son. about a failed drug trial, 26 months in. prison, and. >> T-Mobile stock purchase.
>> Definitely no senators, though. Well, these are people that nobody knows. Look. at these people. This ain't Nancy. Pelosi. >> 2020 scandal. >> Occasionally, >> no powerful people are going to prison. for that [ __ ] No. >> Martha Stewart's the most the most. powerful person that ever went to jail. >> Yeah, but she didn't even go to jail for. that. She went to jail for lying. 78. members have been arrested. >> One different kind. Not not arrested, but all violated the stock Act. >> Interesting. Which requires reporting. financial trades within 45 days. Maybe.
that's just because they tried to hide. it and everybody else is just like, "Oh, I just made a good choice.". >> They're saying just in this Congress, >> April, three candidates were fined by. Kawhi for for allegedly uh whatever. >> political insider trading by betting on. their own races. How? But wait a minute, you can't bet on your own race? That. seems crazy. Like, if you think you're. going to win, you don't know if you're. going to win. No one knows. >> But you But I But you're probably the. first one to know which way it's going. to go. >> I don't know about that. I don't think.
those p those polls are ever correct. >> That's not true. They must be somewhat. correct. >> In case they were suspended from Koshi, so I don't know that they got in trouble. for that. >> So Joe, check this [ __ ] out. This this. is going to get under your skin. So this. dude, Michael Martin in Florida. He he he made an addition to his house, a million-doll addition to his house. It. got approved by the city and everything. And after he put it up, his neighbors.
complained. They went and dug up some. like hundred-year-old statue. and and complained, right? And they they. so they take them to court. And his. argument is, well, it got approved by. the city. Like, that's why I built it, >> right? >> So, [ __ ] them. But he but he compromised. already. He compromised and he he put up. a thing to block his view so it wouldn't. bother them. Okay. >> And that wasn't good enough for him. >> So then the judge ended up ordering him.
to tear it all down. >> Oh my god. >> And he refused. And now he's still in. jail, right? He's still in jail right. now. >> Oh my god. >> For contempt of court. >> Is this a homeowners association thing? >> No. >> No. It's just his neighbor. >> No. No. Cuz he he he everything was. approved. It got approved by the HOA. Got approved by the city and everything. >> And he spent all his money. >> He spent all his money. Built it up and. then and then his neighbor had a problem. with it. >> Oh, his neighbor's a piece of [ __ ] And. now and now the judge wants him to tear. it down. >> Can you imagine your neighbor wanting. you to take down an addition to your. house? Like why do you give a [ __ ] right.
now? If you if I'm going to if I'm going. to jail over that, I'm going to whoop. your ass. I'm at least being there for. something. >> That's so crazy that people can take. someone to court for doing something to. their house. Like what does it matter to. you? Is it affecting your view? Like. what is it? >> Yeah. I think it's one it's one of those. things where it's like the technically I. think the argument you can make is that. I bought this house because. the forest was right there and he's. chopping down the forest even. >> is that what he's doing though. >> No, that's not what he's doing. But I. was like I don't know what and I forget.
what the what the statute is that they. found. His name was Michael Michael. Martin. But they found some old ass. technicality. >> right that the city didn't even know. about because they approved it. You. would hate that neighbor forever if that. guy made you take down your addition. that you spent 200 grand building up. >> Yeah. Because that's my thing is like. how is the judge How can you tell a man. [ __ ] your million dollars? >> Right. Right. >> That's what's crazy to me. >> And you got approved by the city and he. can't appeal that. >> I I don't know. >> Going to he's in jail while it's being.
appealed and that's what his lawyer is. like. He's. >> No, cuz here's the thing. He can get out. of jail anytime he wants. >> All he has to do is tear down the. addition. >> He has to tear down the addition. >> Yeah. But if he's appealing, why would. he tear down the addition? And then if. what he wins the appeal, he builds it. back up again. Then the guy appeals the. >> appeal. It's also saying that demo is. going to cost 800 grand. >> Oh my god. Oh my god. For this [ __ ]. [ __ ] neighbor. >> Yeah. You talking about being. >> What is the specifics though? Am I. wrong? I mean, maybe the neighbor's. right. Like. >> I'm looking to see how it went down.
>> Yeah. Cuz what did the what why could. the neighbor have any how could that. make sense? >> Yeah. It's starting off said the lawyer. for a Tampa Tampa couple who asked a. judge to find their neighbor in contempt. of court over a disputed guest house. says there's more to the story than we. first brought you about. >> Of course, there's always more to the. story. What is he growing? That's what. I'm trying to read. >> It's not Sharon. [snorts]. >> My uh old neighborhood there was this. guy built a house and it was just kind. of flat. Just a flat. It was kind of.
boring. It was like just a it was just. like not creative. The guy was a builder. and he wasn't much of an architect and I. don't think he hired an architect. He. just had his own idea to how to build a. house, but he got permits and he did it. But I remember my neighbor complaining. and he's like, "You believe this guy. built this [ __ ] house?" I'm like, "What is the big deal?" And he's like, "You don't think that's an isore?" I go, "Well, it's boring. It's a boring house. Like, what do you care?" I just didn't. didn't understand it, but he wanted to. like start complaining and get a bunch. of people to file a complaint about this.
guy's house. >> Local news sites. The location will. allow the occupant of the guest house to. peer into the backyard and pool area of. the Babbitt's home. Oh. Martin. subsequently removed any windows facing. the Babbitt's property and installed. bamboo along the property line to. obstruct the view of the guest house. >> Yeah, they were they were mad that that. he could you could see in to their house. from. >> to their yard where their pool is. >> Yeah, that's how it started. That's that. was the initial complaint. But there's. 500 filings that they've had over 5.
years over. >> Oh god. 1924 original subdivision said. it was public space or supposed to be. public space or something like that. >> 1924. They went and found a 1924. uh statue. >> They're saying that the company he hired. that got the approval did the did that. illegally. And that's their claim, I. guess. And it all has to do with Yeah. >> So Martin signed a contract with the. demolition company needs to pay. $392,372.50.
50 cents to Dynamite Demolition. What a. great name. I want to get a t-shirt. Dynamite Dynamite Demolition. >> Uh to begin tearing down the structures, Judge Nash rejected them until last. week, finding Martin in contempt and. ordering a writ of bodily attachment, which orders all law enforcement to take. Martin into custody and take him to. jail. No one is above the law, McLaren. said. So, we just just want the court's. ruling to be complied with and that's. it. boy. >> But somebody being able to see into your. pool is wow for you to really go through.
this much trouble. >> She said, "Oh, say, so this general. contractor, Julie McIll, is one of the. several outside contractors and. developers I asked to evaluate the. case." She says she can't remember a. time when a judge told the city that it. didn't follow its own code on. neighborhood conformity. Wow. But see, Mr. Martin, Mr. Martin, you [ __ ] up. the game. You know what you got to do, man? You know what you got to do, Mr. Martin? Just comply. Okay, cuz you're. not going to win like this. Do what they. say. Pay the money, tear it down. I'm.
guessing you got the money. If you. building a million-dollar guest house. with a pickle ball court and a and a. pool just for your guests, you got the. bread. Pay that bread and then you take. the money you save from not being caught. up in all of these lawsuits, okay? And. you spend it on revenge. >> You hire the most coldblooded [ __ ]. creative people you can think of. and. you you make this person's life. miserable in all the legal ways. possible. In all the ways where he knows. it's you and he can't do [ __ ] about it.
You you hire a bunch of college. students. You get him a prize for. whoever finds any statute that can [ __ ]. this man's life up. That's what you do. Don't sit in jail. You you cannot take. any revenge that cost you something. It's you have it's got to be pure. delight, you know? It's got to be served. cold. That's why that that saying is. revenge is best served cold. It's like. you have to take care with the dish. You. can't just react. >> It would be weird though if you always. had a backyard where your pool didn't. face anybody and then all a sudden a. dude put a house right behind your pool.
>> Put up a gazebo [ __ ]. >> I'm reading more. That's not exactly. what it was. It says there was already. they put together some lots to make one. bigger lot and there was already some uh. something on that and so when he bought. it they're like we don't see any problem. with fixing that, changing how it looked. and that that might be. But here's. here's also the thing though, Joe. He. offered to. >> block like put up a wall to block the. the peritting. >> have no windows. [clears throat]. >> Yeah. >> Put up bamboo. >> And I feel like if is a good neighbor.
that's reasonable. That's a reasonable. compromise. Go, oh, I you know, I didn't. even think about the I can see into your. house. We'll just knock the windows out. >> That feels like instead of being like, "No, I want you to waste a million. dollars.". >> Right. >> [ __ ] To to me, that's where you became. the bad guy. When he offered a. reasonable compromise and you said, "Fuck no." Well, then [ __ ] you. >> [ __ ] you. >> Yeah, [ __ ] you. I'm telling you right. now, they lucky it's not me with a. million dollar cuz I'm Batman now. I'm. Batman and you the Joker and I'm going. to spend my whole I'm I'mma I'mma live. my [screaming] life as No, those that's. true.
>> Yeah. Oh yeah. I'mma I'mma tear it down. I'mma sell the house. I'mma use all the. money from all from selling this house. I'm going use all that money to wake. your life hard. >> You know what I'm saying? I'm going to. pay people to break in your house. >> and illegal throw. Don't do that. That's. illegal. You don't want to pay. Don't do. illegal things. >> Let a crackhead do it. >> But that's illegal still. >> Okay. >> Crack you out, too. Then you'll be in. jail. >> Cut your internet line. Wait till you. call the repair shop. >> That's illegal, too. >> Have them throw dead mice in the back of. your vents. >> You can't have it be illegal. It's got. to be legal.
>> It can't be illegal. >> It must be legal. >> But I just can't think of anything legal. right now. >> Well, you could sue people for all kinds. of stupid [ __ ] and just make them go. through legal problems. >> Don't sue. Yeah. Just have just have. people outside with a tape measure. They. if they if they a centimeter from the. curb, >> call call them cops. [laughter] Straight. neighbor wars. >> Neighbor wars are real, man. People kill. each other over neighbor wars. >> Oh, yeah. The Hatfields and the McCoys. Ancient. >> Yeah. Um I think that was over some. other [ __ ]. >> It's nothing worse. There's nothing. worse than living beside somebody that.
like this. >> No, it's completely unreasonable. Completely unable to compromise. >> Nice neighbors are beautiful. >> Oh man, >> you have good neighbors. It's great. I. have nice neighbors. It's nice. And I. have nice I have nice neighbors in. California, too. >> Cuz cuz here's the thing. It It doesn't. take much to be a good neighbor. You. just You have to be thoughtful. And. >> in the in the times that you're not. thoughtful when it's brought to your. attention, you have to have the. appropriate amount of shame. >> Well, here it goes. Uh. >> stolen hog. >> It was over a stolen hog. Illicit.
romance and long-standing judges. Two. neighboring families in the backwoods of. Appalachia. So, here's the thing about. that though. I think this is from. is this from Malcolm Gladwell's book? I. forget whose book it's on from um but. there was a a book where they explained. that what had happened I believe it's. Malcolm Gladwell was it explaining that. the reason why the people in Appalachia. are so violent is because they come from. hurting populations in Europe. And so. herders in Europe are very different.
than farmers because if herders someone. can come along and steal all your sheep. and you're [ __ ] You can't really. steal all someone's corn. It [ __ ] takes. forever. You got to chop it down. You. know what I mean? >> So, these people were used to defending. their animals with violence because. people would come in and try to steal. them. >> Uh, yes. Malcolm Gladwell. Yeah. Outliers. That's the book. Uh, chapter. six. Hatfield McCoy feud is analyzed as. a prime example of a culture of honor. where, similar to the findings in this. Reddit thread, ancestral hurting roots.
forced rapid, brutal retaliation for. insults to maintain reputation. This. cultural legacy, not just poverty, drove. generations of conflict. So, culture of honor. Gladwell argues. that families descending from Scottish. and Irish herders, brought a culture of. honor to the Appalachian Mountains. In. these regions, law enforcement is re. weak and survival depends on. establishing a reputation for strength. and prompt, often violent retaliation. against slights. >> Yeah, that makes sense.
>> What was the name of the book, though? >> Outliers. [ __ ] great book. It's a. really good book. >> Yeah, I have it. I haven't read it. though. >> It's really good. It it talks about like. why people are successful. The one of. the more interesting things is about the. Beatles. In the Beatles talks about how. they got this gig in Hamburgg, Germany. where they were performing every [ __ ]. day. Every day. They were doing multiple. sets every day. And they did it for like. a few years. And they went back to. Liverpool and everybody's like, "What.
the [ __ ] happened with you guys? It's. like, "How'd you get so good?" And they. got so good because they were just. performing all the time. I think it was. at a strip club. I think it was. something crazy like that. Like like. they were performing music at a strip. club, like something weird. And because. of that, they were just getting in reps, like crazy reps. And I think that's the. key to like almost anything. Almost. anything. And this is the the argumented. outliers. It's like, you know, the. 10,000 hours of mastery, like that.
argument. >> Yeah. Yeah. But wasn't 10 the 10,000. hours is is not exactly what he said, right? It was like. >> No, it's a rough because there's other. obviously people that are savant. >> Yeah. Well, no, I think he um he. modified it because he he talked about. >> it's it's not about the amount of time. as much as it's about the the kind the. quality of practice, >> right? So like intentional directed. practice. >> which is would be like performing on. stage for the all those where is what.
were they doing in Hamburg Germany Jamie. were they uh were they at were they at a. was it a strip club something like that. >> it said they played [clears throat] in. clubs and strip bars. >> Yeah. >> So there's a lot of places I guess they. play. >> So they were just going off. They were. just like doing as many sets as they can. which is the same with comedy. Everybody. that we know that really progressed. rapidly, they did as many sets as. possible. They're hopping all over the. place. Like guys in our club, like Ari. Maddie, for instance, that [ __ ] dude,
he's he'll go up at the sunset, he'll go. over here, go there, he'll go there. It. doesn't show at the mothership. He's. just in it, you know? He's in it. >> Yeah. >> You know, >> all day. >> And when you're doing that, you just get. better quicker. >> Just get better and better. >> And those dudes that we know that do a. set a week, you know, come in, drop in, do 15 minutes, that's it. you don't see. them again for another week. They kind. of like get stale. They stay flat. >> They get stagnant. >> They get stagnant. Yeah. Whereas the. Beatles just got after it and then all. of a sudden Love, Love Mayday,
>> they [snorts] just got smooth, you know, which makes sense. That's the case with. everything though with like everything. you do. Like you don't want a surgeon. that does brain surgery once a year, you. know? You want a guy who's like in it. >> Yeah. >> He's in it all day. He's [ __ ]. studying journals and practicing with. robots. Yeah. I'm trying to be your. third brain that day. >> That's right. >> Yeah. You don't want to be the fifth. brain though. It gets tired. >> No. Yo, you know what's funny is I just. saw something about um they did a he did.
a study at a courthouse where. and they found that the that judges. whenever the judges had like h how harsh. of a sentence you received. uh was directly related to how long had. it been since the judge ate something. >> Oh yeah, I've seen that before. Yeah, I've seen that. >> That's crazy as hell. >> Crazy. Like, and it's it's it it. it's enough. It's statistically. significant. >> Yeah. Yeah. Which makes sense. Cranky.
>> Or if the judge getting no [ __ ]. >> maybe he's going through a divorce, you. know, maybe his wife [ __ ] her trainer. >> Oh, yeah. Damn it. Give me the. >> [ __ ] you give me the judge right after. breakfast. >> What if you come in and you're you're a. personal trainer, too, and you're. dealing with some [ __ ]. >> The judge like my wife just [ __ ]. trainer, [laughter] you piece of [ __ ]. >> Some people get real petty like that. They don't give a [ __ ] about about like. doing the right thing. >> Oh, hell no. >> No, they just want to they want to feel.
power. [ __ ] people over. [ __ ] you. >> Oh, >> [ __ ] all trainers. >> Well, you know, another thing I just. found out about is um. um I think I think the country is. Anguela, right, Jamie? They. they um. so you know how you know how like in. America the websites are all com and in. Russia it's like ru. >> right. >> in Anguela. it's aai. >> oh.
>> which didn't used to mean [ __ ] but now. >> now it's worth some money. >> now they're making so much money selling. domains that it's like half of their. money. >> Oh wow. >> It's completely changed the economy. their economy. Oh, that's crazy cuz it. seems like you're legit if you have like. Perplexity.ai. >> Mhm. >> Right. >> So, anybody anything.AI, they got to pay. these people. >> Oh, wow. Yeah. >> Well, there's so many domains now. >> Yeah. Just from something we didn't used. to think meant anything. >> cuz it used to be like you only had.
com.net. >> Oh, yeah. you know, >> like you never know what this like, bro, somebody just held up a uh somebody. because I'm on u one of the one of the. subreddits I be on is called uh. >> why would you touch that or what is. this? [laughter]. And usually usually the same post are on. both cuz people are like what is this. thing or and then also why why did you. why are you touching it? >> [laughter]. >> So, I just saw one recently, but. somebody held up a thing and they were. like, "What is this? What is this? What.
does this o mean?" And it was like, "Oh, but it but it was it was from so t you. know Tyler the creator.". >> Yes. >> So, he when he first came out, his group. was called our future. So, this was way. before Only Fans and and so if you saw, you know, before seven years ago, it. meant that's what it meant, >> right? And so it was one of their like. stickers or promo things or something. like that. But but this was a young kid. He found it in the attic or something. He didn't know what the [ __ ] it meant. He was like, "Why is it?" Cuz he knew. how old it was. So he was like, "It.
can't be Only Fans. What is this, >> right?". >> Yeah. And it's like [ __ ] changes all the. time. These [ __ ] they they. they got this uh. they never thought Nobody thought they. would make any [ __ ] money off of it, >> right? >> Well, well, there was other there's. other ones like that, too, that are kind. of interesting. There's a bunch of. different ones. I'm trying to remember. some of them, but some of them are like. biz. >> Where' that come from? >> I don't know who What is that? Is that a. >> I don't know. But they have that like. they have. Biz. >> I remember back when that used to mean.
something like we used to have like you. know.org. >> Mhm. >> I think.edu is still a thing like. >> Well, remember when people sell websites. for a lot of money? So people would like. buy a bunch of domains and hold on to. them like business. I think business.com. sold for a ton of money. >> Yeah. But now I think it's hard to do. that now. >> Yeah. What kind of business do you have. that people are just looking up. business.com? Why is that even worth. anything? >> You know what I mean? That's like. eating.com is worth money. >> I don't know if you remember back when. when white when white house.com was a.
porn site. >> The actual site was it's always been. white house.gov. >> but that was back when people didn't. know. So white house so people whenever. anyone was looking for the white house. they go white house.com they go to this. porn site. >> Do you know what redband did? >> No. >> Do you know the Pepsi spice thing? >> No. [laughter] What is Pepsi Spice? >> One of Redb's greatest trolls was he. bought PepsiPice.com. So Pepsi Spice was a type of Pepsi that. came out. And so Redban bought. Pepsispice.com and then he started.
documenting how he was drinking Pepsi. Spice and he was having bloody diarrhea. That's all he was drinking. He was. dying. He was getting cancer. It's like. the [ __ ] craziest thing. I mean 14. years ago. So play go full screen. >> 169. >> So he's losing weight. >> Hi this is Brian from pepsispice.com. Um a lot of people wouldn't believe me. So that's why I'm making this video. My. pee has actually turned um not yellow,
not white, but it's um fake red now. [laughter] So and I'm not making this. [ __ ] up. That's why I'm filming using. this uh Canon camera, the S uh 4. megapixel camera. Um, so. >> that's how old this is. >> Gorgeous. Okay, toilet. Now I'm going to. pee. I'm just going to.
[laughter]. >> say he's like pretend that his pee is. bloody. >> Oh, this guy. >> He's so silly. He just kept doing it. that like it got worse and worse and. worse and eventually Pepsi Spice bought. it from him. >> No, the hardest part to believe on that. video is the 170 lbs. >> Oh, he was really skinny at one point in. time. Wow. >> Yeah. Yeah. Brian at one point in time. got real heavy and then went on a crazy. fitness kick. He got a like a stair. climber in his house and he was [ __ ]. riding that [ __ ] every day and he lost.
a ton of weight and he had a photo of. him like with his old jeans. This is. Pepsi Spice Project. >> [laughter]. >> Peps is Spice Project. >> He's so silly. [laughter] But this one, man, he committed a lot of [ __ ] time. to this. It was very funny. >> Like, I remember reading it and like. dying laughing. I'm like, you're so. ridiculous. Like, >> well, you know, if Red if Red Band. decides [ __ ] you, he can really elevate. to like a 50 cent level of.
>> of pettiness. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. But this wasn't even [ __ ] you. This is just him having fun. Did Did. they come after him? >> I think eventually they did, but the. thing was like they were too stupid to. buy pepsispice.com. when they had Pepsi Spice. Like you got. to buy that. Like who the [ __ ] You. should fire somebody. Somebody in your. organization is slipping cuz he didn't. know that Pepsi Spice was going to be a. thing till after you released it. So the. fact that you knew that you were going. to release Pepsi Spice and you didn't. buy up Pepsi Spice.com is kind of crazy.
>> That is kind of crazy. >> Kind of kind of ridiculous. >> Yeah. >> That's just shitty planning. That's. whoever works for they deserve whatever. he did. [laughter]. >> Yeah. I try to when I try to get because. all my social media stuff is BS and I. tried to get bs.com or it was or bs. comedian.com or something like that and. it and it somebody already owns it. It. was like a like a Canadian improv group. or something. >> Oh, interesting. >> And they I was like, well, I'll buy it. from you. How much? And and the price.
they said was so crazy that I was like, what? >> How much? [sighs] I I want to say they. asked for like $10,000 or something. >> M. >> and this was back when I that was that. was like I wouldn't pay that now, but. back when but back then I didn't even. have it, >> right? >> I was like what? $10,000 is crazy for a. website, y'all. Cuz it it wasn't like. they [clears throat] were doing tons of. business through this website. >> Were they using it at all? [sighs and gasps]. >> How much would you have paid for it. >> back then? Yeah. >> I would have gave him a,000 bucks. >> A,000 if they said two. No way.
>> Maybe. maybe 1500 with a with a best and. final. >> I think today though, all anybody does. is do a search of your name and then. they find your website. Like if somebody. wants to find your website, they just. search and it's right there. >> Oh yeah. But but I'm but I need but part. of me always wants everything to be the. same and it ended up not being that way. anyway cuz cuz my my Tik Tok is a. different thing than everything else. Everything is BS comedian except that. >> It's interesting that you have Tik Tok. Don't you worry about the terms of. service like all the access they have to. your phone and access to computers are.
on your network and all that [ __ ]. >> The Chinese. >> I mean. >> well not the Chinese anymore now. >> Yeah. That's what I'm saying. It's like. you know for me I've never. >> I've never cuz the the once once Edward. Snowden told us what was up. I'm like. they all who gives a [ __ ] I care who's. spying. I'm getting spied on no matter. what I'm doing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. What the Chinese going to do to. me? They're gonna be like, "Oh, he's". >> Basically, they have everything that. you've ever done and they only use it if. they catch you. >> They So, if they're looking for.
something like say if you run for. Congress and you do some insider. trading, you do something shitty and. they come after you, then they go, "Oh, Brian, it's interesting because we have. uh voicemail. >> that you left on someone's we were. talking about.". >> They got that [ __ ] though. They already. got it. >> They always have that stuff. Somebody. got arrested today from um Fouch's. administration. >> See, that's. >> they arrested the first guy who was uh. involved in the cover up of the lab leak. theory. >> and um he was using a Gmail account uh.
to avoid Freedom of Information Act. requests. So, he was using Gmail. instead. This is allegedly. I don't know. what the reality of all this is. obviously, but I just read read about it. today. Ex Fouchy top advisor indicted. over alleged COVID cover up hidden. emails. David Moren allegedly received. gifts including wine and high-end meals. from a collaborator. Prosecutors say. uhoh.
>> See, this is why I don't believe in. incognito mode. >> Yeah, it's all [ __ ]. >> I'm like, yo, jerk off on your main. [laughter] and delete that [ __ ] out your. history. Cuz all incognito mode is is. just you going, "Hey Google, this is the. stuff I don't want nobody to know. about." Just making it easier for and. then they put it in a file. He served. for years as a top adviser with the. National Institute of Allergy and. Infectious Diseases. Um, indicted and is. accused. >> more private. You can manage [laughter]. >> your phone's talking to you, dog.
>> You can trust me. >> Yeah, Google's like, "Hey, I know. incognito mode is legit. Incognito. mode." Um, so, uh, he was using his personal email. account to evade federal transparency. laws and shield key discussions from. Freedom of Information Act requests. According to the DOJ indictment. unsealed, it was also apparently. bragging about it. uh allegedly alleged. that Moren's conspired with others.
during the pandemic to hide. communications related to a. controversial corona virus research. grant that involved collaboration with. the Wuhan Institute of Viology in China. The grant was later terminated amid. scrutiny over whether CO 19 may have. originated from a lab leak. It amazing. that. >> but did he did how did they catch him. though? Did he. >> Well, I mean they can't get Fouchy, right? This is the the the thing because. they wanted to get Fouchy. That's why. the Biden administration gave him a. pardon from 2014 on, which is really.
kind of wild. Uh federal prosecutors. also claimed that Moren received gifts. from a collaborator, including wine and. offers of high-end meals, and later took. steps to justify these perks by. contributing to a scientific publication. supporting the theory that CO 19 emerged. naturally rather than from the Wuhan. lab. So they bribed him to get him to do. this allegedly. Um he's one of I think a a bunch of.
people that are going to wind up going. down. There's too many people that are. pissed off. There's too many pe I mean. too much money got lost. Too many people. wound up dying. >> Wait a minute. What? [clears throat] Why. you think Why you think anybody's going. to go to prison now? They never go to. prison. >> Oh, you know this is a new thing. I mean. this kind of thing is a new thing and. there's enough people that want heads to. roll. This is a weird thing. I mean, this is a weird thing where they shut. the whole country down. If you find out. that these people actually paid to have. this virus engineered and they were. lying about it and hiding it and. covering it up.
>> Oh, I see. That's not what I took from. that. >> The virus came from the Wuhan lab. Okay. These people were hiding the fact that. they were funding the Wuhan lab. M. >> they were funding. >> Oh, they he was part of a group that was. funding them. >> And he was also allegedly being bribed. with things to promote the idea that it. came from naturally from natural. spillover versus from a lab leak. >> Allegedly. >> Who's alleging? >> Whoever the prosecutors are, whoever the.
I mean, I don't know. I don't know. what's going on. I don't know what they. know and what they don't know. But I do. know that obviously there was a. concerted effort to make it seem like. this came naturally and not from the. Wuhan lab. There was a giant effort. which is why on YouTube if you had. posted during like 2020 about a lab. leak, if you said, "I think it came from. a lab." They would literally pull you. off of YouTube. >> They would kick you off of Twitter back. then before Elon bought Twitter. They. would kick you off Twitter if you were. going on and on about a this is a lab.
leak. I mean, >> we living in [clears throat] them times, man. a hypothetical could [ __ ] your. world up. You can't even you can't even. chew on it. You can't even like have a. play devil's advocate. >> Well, you can now. You can now because. of Twitter, because Elon bought it. But. before then, when the government was. essentially in control, I mean, the. government was conspiring to control and. to. >> about Elon. Yeah, people do all day. They all day. >> Yeah. All over Twitter. >> in his defense. I mean, I'm sure he. blocks them, but I mean, [laughter] he.
you could block somebody, but that you. could talk people talk mad [ __ ] about. him, >> bro. That [ __ ] be on Twitter way. too much for how rich he is. >> Not only that, how busy he is. I don't. understand it. >> That boy busy tweeting is what he doing. >> But he's he's busy making rockets and. [ __ ] I mean, I don't understand it. I. don't know how he has the time. I can't. do it. >> But he ain't making the rockets. He got. like [snorts] slaves or whatever. >> I don't know what he I'm sure he got. like geniuses chained to. >> He does, but he's in charge of a lot of. it, man. I went to the rocket factory. during the launch. Jamie went too. We.
all went and watched SpaceX launch. We. went down to the to the cult. What's the. Gulf, right? >> Oh, yeah. They're the main guys, bro. You know, they just launched um they or. or they're going to launch the on. SpaceX. They're going to launch um the. new telescope. >> Yes. >> The uh was it the Nancy Grace Roman the. Roman the Roman telescope. Ooh, this. [ __ ] is. >> these the these new telescopes are kind. of crazy because the more they find out, the more they find out that like, oh, we. didn't know that. >> What's crazy about this one is how fast.
they built it. And and this is the. craziest part. It's under budget. >> Really? >> So, they built it faster than they said. for less than what they said. >> And now, how what is the power of this. one as opposed to like the James Web. >> apparently? So, I was I was listening to. this [ __ ] I was fascinated earlier, but. but uh they're saying so they weren't. comparing it to the James Web, they're. comparing it to the H to Hubble. Uh cuz. the James Web is is more infrared. This is more like the Hubble, like but.
the it it takes a pictures at the same. resolution as the Hubble, but way way. bigger. So they were they they he they. were saying that there is not a there's. not a screen that exists that you could. display the picture on. >> Yeah. It's a wide field instrument. whereas the James telescope. [cough and clears throat] is near. infrared. >> Interesting. So what is this going to be. able to detect that the James Web can't? >> Exoplanets is one of the big ones. >> Like like way way way more than we can.
>> Imagine Imagine if they find exoplanets. and you could see lights on them. >> Like a. >> Well, I don't know if that's possible. >> One day. [snorts]. >> Just imagine. Imagine how. >> Oh, yeah. think about it all the time. >> [ __ ] crazy that would be. >> So, yeah. So, so see how huge. >> Holy [ __ ]. >> Yeah. It compares more to the Hubble, I. think, than the James Web. >> in the type of telescope it is. >> Yeah. >> The amount of information that it can. take in. >> They're finding [ __ ] from the James Web.
that's freaking them out. They're. finding things that making them question. the age of the universe itself. Yeah. And this thing is going to it's going to. do like we we cuz I don't know if you. remember this, but the first time I was. on this pod, >> I I told I told you about the James Webs. way like a a year and a half before it. came out. >> What were you telling me about? >> I was just telling you that it existed. that it was going to change everything. >> Yeah. >> And. >> it has. >> And and and this one is going to do the. same thing. >> The formation of galaxies is freaking. them out. They find they find these. galaxies that are formed way too.
quickly. So they're confused. They and. now they're try starting to like are we. wrong about how long it takes to form a. galaxy or are we wrong about the age of. the universe? >> Yeah. I mean there's there's the we're. wrong about everything. I mean we're. wrong about a lot of things but but SC. you know the thing about scientists love. being wrong. >> Yeah they do. Well especially these kind. of scientists because they love they. love new discoveries like. >> oh more yeah they're not dogmatic. Also. it's it's very difficult to argue when. you get the data back from these things. I mean it is what it is. We were talking. about this recently that they found a.
black hole that's bigger than our. galaxy. >> Oh, well yeah. Yeah, that. >> what. >> Well, I think you were sending me that. I think you sent me that something. Um. >> or might may not be bigger than our. galaxy or it's commensurate with our. galaxy. It's like it's there's one that. they found that was bigger than our. entire solar system. >> It was tons something. >> ton 618. It's bigger than the solar. system, >> but that's one. But there was the alpha. What was the other one that we looked at. the other day? Um, and then we brought.
it up the other day. There's one that's. even larger than that. Like they keep. finding these ones that are just. impossibly big. >> Yeah. So, cuz it it would have to have. been primordial, right? Like it would. have to have formed. >> Well, this was the question. They they. said that it was so big it didn't make. sense that it had enough time to suck up. enough stars to get that big. That was. the problem, right? They were like, "There's not enough time from the birth. of the universe for this thing to exist. and be this big.". >> Yeah. Because it would have had to have. started at a time where the where matter.
wasn't close enough together to even. form things. >> Oh, it's so [ __ ] up. It's so crazy. >> Yeah. >> Just the idea of a black hole bigger. than all the way out to Pluto. >> A black hole. >> Here's the real sad thing. There's. there's pro there's there's a lot of. things that we that are just not. knowable to us. Like we just will never. know, >> right? And we and that's we just got to. accept it like like you hear every time. you hear him talk about how we you know. the we're expanding the the the universe. is expanding so so rapidly that. eventually it's going to be because it's.
speeding up. So eventually it's going to. be expanding. >> close to the speed of light, >> right? >> And so it's like at some point. if there's still people on Earth by then. at some point there's not going to be. any stars. We we're going to be it's. going to be expanding so so rapidly that. when you look up at the sky, you're not. going to see anything. Like they're. going to think they're going to think. that everything outside our galaxy. doesn't exist. I mean, they're going to. see died off. >> They're going to see stars, but they're. not going to see they're not going to. know that there's other galaxies cuz the.
light the light won't be reaching us. >> Wow. >> So, it's like So, imagine the stuff that. we that that we can't know now that we. already beyond or we couldn't even know. >> I think it's called Phoenix. I think. that was the. >> both part of the same thing. >> It's the same thing. >> I'm looking at the everything about ton. 618 says it's the biggest thing they've. ever found. >> And how big is it exactly? >> 88. It's what I. >> 88. >> Just lost the uh.
mass is the size of roughly 66 billion. suns I think is what that [laughter]. means. I don't [ __ ] know what that. means, man. I don't understand. 66. billion solar masses. >> I'm assuming that's. >> that's so crazy. >> You can't even really You can't even. really imagine that. >> Do you know what they said? That there. are more planets in the in the universe. than there are seconds since the big. bang.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's. >> There you go. Yeah. Phoenixes. surrounding ton 618. >> Oh, that's what it is. Okay. So, Phoenix. A the quazar as a quazar ton 618 is. believed to be the actic act active. galactic nucleus at the center of a. galaxy the engine of which is a super. massive black hole feeding on intensely. hot gas and matter in an accretion disc. What does that mean? >> That's the that's the disc around the. black hole that uh like when it eats.
something that's where that's where the. light is coming from. >> [sighs]. >> I [clears throat]. >> when did they discover this? >> 19506. >> Nature of this object was first noted in. 57. 13 years later 1970 discovered. emissions from. >> You want to get really get freaked out. Jamie? Look up the great attractor. [snorts]. >> What is that? So [laughter] this scaryish space is so.
so there is something. on the other side of us that we can't. see and everything is moving in that. direction including us and we don't know. what's pulling it. >> what. hidden galaxies discovered in the zone. of avoidance. What does that mean? The. great attractor defeat dark energy. What? Now look up. What is it? The great. attractor is a region of gravitational. attraction in intergalactic space and.
the apparent central gravitational point. of the Lanaka supercluster of galaxies. that includes the Milky Way galaxy as. well as about 100,000 other galaxies. The observed attraction suggests a. localized concentration of mass having. the order of 10 the 16 solar masses. However, it's obscured by the Milky. Way's galactic plane lying above the. zone of avoidance. So that invisible. light wavelengths, the great attractor.
is difficult to observe directly. Bro, >> there's no way you can know everything. >> It's a too much information. >> So we know everything's being sucked. towards it. >> What is that? >> We don't know it. And it's sucking all. these galaxies, all these super. galaxies. Everything's moving towards it. and we we can't we can't tell what it. is. Imagine if you're it's your job to. know what's going on in the universe. Hey Brian, uh write me a paper on what's. going on in the universe. Like. everything. >> Yeah. I mean, >> it would never end. The There's with.
every new satellite that gets launched. that can see into the space, >> every new telescope that gets utilized, like we're [ __ ]. >> Here's the other thing, though. I I and. I could be wrong about this. I mean, I've been I'm wrong about a lot of [ __ ]. but I think that it's it it's actually. physically impossible for you to know. even a fraction of the things because. any any device that could store that. amount of information would collapse. into a black hole before you could get. anywhere near storing enough. So, your.
brain couldn't even hold. even even a percentage of a percentage. of a percentage of the information. >> That makes sense. We have PE brains. >> Yeah. Yeah, there's no way we could have. that information. The South Pole, what. is this? >> Yeah, flat earthers are going to love. this. >> Okay, South Pole Wall or the South Pole. is a massive cosmic structure formed by. a giant wall of galaxies, a galaxy. filament that extends across at least. 1.37 billion light years of space, the.
nearest light, and consequently part of. which is aged at about a half a billion. light years. The structure and its. astronomical angle is dense in five. known places including one very near the. celestial south pole and is according to. the intern international team of. astronomers that discovered the south. pole wall the largest contiguous feature. in the local volume and comparable to. the Sloan great wall at half. [clears throat] the distance. Okay, you.
just like. >> I just blocked them by walls is all I. was getting at. >> Aha. Maybe that's why they're confused. Maybe that's what they think the. Antarctic wall is. Or maybe the maybe. the rest of the galaxy knows that we're. a problem and they got us locked in. >> You know, perhaps we got we gotten out. before and [ __ ] the [ __ ] the galaxy. up. >> Maybe. >> back in the Egyptian days. Maybe that's. what they were doing. >> Something. >> You see that [ __ ] they you've seen that. [ __ ] they found underneath the pyramids, right? >> No. >> You haven't seen that? >> I don't think so. What you mean? What? >> Oh, you don't know? Okay. Oh, you don't. know. [laughter].
>> Oh, you don't know. like you should sell. t-shirts and oh you don't know. Um they. found these structures they use oh god. what is it called? Radio tomography. satellite radio tomography and there. it's this ground penetrating. [ __ ] that they found these structures. underneath the pyramids that go like. over a kilometer deep into the earth. like pillars, giant columns that are.
surrounded by coils that go down into. the ground. And they've used this. technology successfully to detect things. that they know exist like certain voids. that are in pyramids and certain. chambers and certain temples that they. know exist underground. And they've. accurately described these things. including they use this radio tomography. on um they uh uh there's a mountain in. Italy that has a particle collider at. the bottom of the mountain over a. kilometer into the mountain. They built. this particle collider and this thing.
this this information this uh technology. shows an accurate uh image of what this. particle collider looks like. The exact. dimensions shows it exact. And so. they're using this underneath the. pyramid. And this guy, Filippo Bondi, this Italian scientist that I had on the. podcast, explained that they've used. this uh underneath the pyramids and. there's these undeniable structures that. exist that go down into the ground like. very deep into the ground under so the. pyramids are just the top of this.
immense structure. I. >> just when you said Italian scientist, I. just keep thinking about him like taking. a nap in the middle of. >> eating pasta, drinking wine. Eventually, we're figuring it out. So, so you're. saying that there's that there are. machines down there or something? >> They don't know what it is. So, they. haven't really dug into the ground and. investigated it fully yet, but they know. that these sensors, these this. technology is detecting these. structures. Show Jamie, show them what. it looks like. >> So, show them the 3D model. They made a. 3D model of it.
>> Shocked that we that we that we can't. get in there and just go. >> That's what they think it looks like. Okay. What? Imagine if that's accurate. If there really are columns underneath. the the pyramid, >> I mean, that just seems so impossible. And it seems impossible. And there's. heat. >> No, I don't think it's heat. I don't. think that's what it There's a water. table underneath there, too. And they. think it has something to do with the. use of the pyramid in the first place, that it wasn't simply just a structure, that it had some sort of a use, and that.
these columns were doing something and. that it was probably some sort of a. technology. Look how nuts that is. Mega structures underneath the pyramids. Could you go back to what that one said. with the the Yeah, right there. Look at. that. Alleged [clears throat]. mega structures under Egypt's pyramids. sparking fascination and fierce. skepticism worldwide. Will you lose. something? >> No, I think. >> so. If it's true, that's nuts. >> Yeah. I mean, that that sounds.
absolutely [ __ ] crazy to me that. I'm just thinking about the work that it. would take to even do that, >> right? And what what kind of a society. did that? >> And for what purpose? >> And it's at least 4,500 years old. At. least at least. >> Yeah. And so apparently the the those. ancient pyramids were before. we thought they like I thought like the. like the modern Egyptians built those. pyramids, but no, they were an the. pyramids were ancient to them. >> Well, that seems to be the case with a. lot that's the labyrinth that's.
underneath uh that's outside of the. pyramids. This is another insane. structure that they found that Herodotus. documented way back in, you know, thousands of years ago. But um this is. all Ben Van Kirkwick from um his. Uncharted X YouTube channel sort of. described all this and explained it and. they've used scans, ground penetrating. radar to show that there's this immense. structure that Herodus described as. being greater than Giza itself that's. underneath the ground.
And inside the labyrinth, there's a 40. meter long metallic object that's shaped. like a tic tac. So, whatever the [ __ ] that is, who. knows? But I think there's a lot of [ __ ]. from that part of the world that's going. to show us that civilization at one. point in time had reached a very high. level, like probably even higher than we. are today. And then it was wiped out and. then we're the rebuild. Well, they didn't cure syphilis,
>> actually. Bro, you know, [clears throat]. there's a new syphilis. >> I heard from Michigan or some [ __ ]. right? >> From No, from from Washington. >> Probably [laughter] from Michigan. >> No, no, it was in Washington. >> Washington. >> Yeah. The dude the dude. >> a new kind of syphilis. >> What? It's not a dude had two. He had. two syphilises. >> Two different. >> He had two ones. >> What a dirty pig he must have been. >> And they and they they like the same way. that CO was going through like genetic. recombination. So like. >> Uhhuh. >> they were exchanging traits inside his.
body. >> Oh boy. And creating a super syphilis. >> Yeah. And then and then and then and. then what happened is a bunch of old. ladies kept going to the ER and they all. kept describing the same man and they. [laughter]. >> he spread he was a super spreader. >> He was spreading it. Yeah. And and he. went to the ER cuz it cuz it cuz. apparently like this whatever strain he. has, it just causes you to go blind. super quickly and all these all these. things. And he there's debate about. whether he knew he was purposely. spreading it and didn't give a [ __ ].
because they told him, "Yeah, you got to. come back [laughter] and just kept. [ __ ] he just kept [ __ ] and didn't. go back and and then and then he went he. didn't go back until he had another. emergency and he went to a different. emergency room.". >> How many times in human history has that. been the cause of a plague? >> Somebody wouldn't stop [ __ ]. >> it would stop [ __ ] and just won't. tell anybody. >> I mean, how how you going to be mad? You. can't be mad at. >> has five cases of rare ocular syphilis. >> which can cause vision impairment or. blindness identified in southwest. Michigan.
>> between March and July 2022. All linked. to a single heterosexual male partner. Wow. >> Mhm. >> All five women aged 40 to 60, he wasn't. picky, reported having sexual contact. with the same man. This guy was a freak. >> Yeah, bro. He was out here [ __ ]. >> [ __ ] people blind. [laughter]. And and cuz here's what's crazy. Imagine. leaving the emergency room cuz cuz the. first time he was in emergency room, they thought he had herpes. >> Wow. >> And they gave him something for that and. he left. But imagine coming from the.
emergency room from a STD scare and. going right back to [ __ ]. >> and going blind. >> All patients were hospitalized and. successfully treated with introvenous. penicellin. No further cases were linked. to this man after this treatment. >> All right, Brian, let's wrap this up. with super syphilis. >> Mhm. >> Um, anything going on? When when is uh. you you're going to put your special. >> going do that later. Yeah. >> When are you going to put that out? >> Uh I think it's going to be summertime. July. I'm take put my special up on. YouTube. >> Come back in July.
>> Yeah, we'll do that. >> I'll see you tonight. >> All right. Yeah. Brian Comedy.com. >> Brian Simpimson.com. [music]. Goodbye everybody. [music].
