Joe Rogan Experience #2490 - RZA

Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe. Rogan experience. TRAIN BY DAY, JOE. ROGAN PODCAST BY NIGHT. ALL DAY. We're up. So, [music] the guy that did. your bar, uh flying guillotine, Uh-huh. is the same guy that did the mothership. Oh, wow. >> Richard Weiss. >> Yeah, Richard Weiss. Yeah, Richard, the. same designer architect who did your. bar. I have a flying guillotine t-shirt. that I wear to sometimes. I did I was. trying to find it this morning. I. couldn't [ __ ] find it. I wore mine.

yesterday. I went to the Alamo. Drafthouse and did a screening of of the. film and uh. I said, "Would. would it be appropriate to wear my. Staten Island. Drafthouse to them?" And the guy there, he was like he thought he he he wanted. to wear his, but cuz he tell he's he. stole a stack. >> [laughter]. >> of Staten Island, but he couldn't find. them all. But uh. I've got it somewhere. I've got it. somewhere in my house and I I was. scrambling this morning looking for it. Looking for that t-shirt. I couldn't. find it. >> Well, we got to send you some more. Definitely. Definitely. So, uh it's.

great to see you again, man. >> Back at you, man. Back at you. Just uh. it's like I got questions for you and. What do you got? Well, I was thinking. like like. well, I remember you had the the place. in Woodland Hills. Yes. That was what? Eight years now? Uh we've been out here. for six six years. >> So, about six years ago. >> Yeah, you were there like eight years. ago, I think. Yeah. >> Um. and I just remember you having. uh the like the hyperbolic hyperbaric. chamber? >> Yeah, the hyperbaric chamber. Do you. still Are you still on it?

>> Yeah. Was that what it was or was it the. sensory deprivation tank? Oh, the one where you float. >> Yeah. Is it that cuz we had that at the. studio. We That we didn't have a. hyperbaric at the studio. >> But I do have a hyperbaric. You have. that now, yeah? >> Yeah, not here. I have it at my house. Yeah. I just was always impressed at um. just your consciousness on things that's. all unique, right? And and uh I just, you know, and as time goes on sometimes, you know, as we. evolve, whether we evolving physically,

mentally, spiritually, or economically, sometimes we leave certain things. behind. Right. >> was I was like I said I wonder if Joe. keep moving his chi in the same. direction. >> [laughter]. >> So that's That's my question to you. Well, sometimes it gets caught up in. momentum and you got to step back and. just re-align yourself. That's that's. definitely a factor. Like sometimes I'm too busy and I get. too caught up in momentum of things and. you kind of like lose like why am I. doing this? Like what is the what's the.

process? Like what what is the reason. for doing all this? But vacation always fixes that. Like. take a few days off and you go. >> [sighs]. >> Okay. Now I'm enjoying life again. Yeah. I I feel the same. To be honest, I've. been running around for like I don't. know, for like eight days straight. And I like to kind of make sure I. exercise, do my tai chi or something, or. stretch my body. Uh but um I was telling my wife last. night like yo, I haven't worked out. since we've been moving. Mhm.

>> And uh but I've been drinking every. night. >> [laughter]. >> So I'm like I got to. um so today this morning, before I came here, I got up a little. bit earlier. and I went and stretched and got all. that out. And that's what made this. question come to my head. I was like I. wonder like as we grow and we become. more more involved and we getting. whatever it is in life that's giving us. how we getting these blessings, but how. far do we get away from the blessings. that kind of made us solid, you know. what I mean? >> Yeah. I try not to get as far I try to.

stay as close as possible to like. centering my body. Like if I don't work. out, like just a couple days in a row, I. start feeling weird. Just two days. Two. days I just start feeling like. antsy. I feel antsy. I feel irritated. Just I don't think think I'm thinking. clear. I don't feel relaxed. I think I'm. the same. I Maybe for me it's 3 and 1/2. days. >> [laughter]. >> Well, what drives me nuts is like how. many people out there that's their whole. life? There's no exercise in their life. Like my god, you're doing yourself such.

a disservice. Yeah. And you're not. you're not a. your mind not not just your body but. your mind needs that. You need to blow. out some steam and. run the machine and stretch it out and. relax it afterwards and. recenter yourself. And if you don't do. that, you're going to be anxious. There's how many people are dealing with. like constant crippling anxiety all the. time. And how many of those people don't. exercise? Right. I I think that um in in.

Shaolin philosophy, we um. you know, there's chi gong, right? And. there's a. the the the chi travels through your. blood. So, you got to always continue to. have the blood moving because the blood. is the supply you have, but the oxygen, you know, gets in it and oxidates it and. just keeps it flowing. And when you do. stretching or you do exercises or you. build up your respiration, uh it. actually energizes the blood, which. energizes every part of your body. It.

travel that chi travels through every. vessel and uh. every meridian of your body and it. actually does enhance you and and and. reinvigorate you. 100%. >> Yeah. Fires up your endorphins, fires up. your endocrine system. Everything just. feels better. And it calms you down. I I feel like. human beings are almost like batteries. Like you're storing energy all the time, but if you if you've got too much. energy, it's leaking out of the battery. And you're you're not you're not. purging some of it. You got to purge you.

got to your body has like human. requirements for movement. >> Right. >> And if you don't. if you don't use those requirements, if. you don't meet those requirements, you're just going to feel like [ __ ] And. I think that's a big part of what's. wrong with society today. There's just. way too many people that aren't doing. that. And they're just tense and they're. they're tense, anxious feeling that and. the mental health problems that come. with that, it just spills over into. everything else. Right. I got I got to. agree with you and um.

I know that people that like my Sifu Shi. Yan Ming who uh he probably works out. like six times a day because he has to. train, he has individual clients and. >> Right. Right. Right. >> But um I think Sifu is maybe. 10 years 10 years old 10 years. [clears throat] older than me. Look 10 years younger than me. Right. Of. course. >> I mean? Cuz he's just constantly uh. moving that chi and exercising. He's He. still could kiss his toes. all right, in his 60s. Wow. >> Babies could do that, right? Right. He.

still could kiss his toes like a baby. Um but he said something to me that I. that I that I took just heat to for. myself. I said uh Sifu, why do like why. do you work out so much, all right? He. gave me two answers. He says, one, it. feels good. It makes me feel so good. But then the. other answer he gave me was that because. in Shaolin. when you get up in the morning, you have. to exercise, run up a mountain, run back down the mountain,

do chores and all that before you eat. And he said if you don't do that, you. don't eat. And so I was like, well that sounds like. something from the Bible where it says. that uh man shall work to the sweat of. his brow. You know what I mean? And I took that. philosophy. So I know I don't normally. eat in the morning. I would normally get. up. I mean, I drink coffee now. So I've. been drinking coffee about 10 years, I. think. Uh but I will have some coffee, some. water, and bam ba lama. I I I get into my.

exercise routine. Then I'm home. I think. that's the best way to start the day. Yeah, I do the same. I don't work out. I don't eat rather before I work out. >> Right. I always work out first. >> Right. So cuz we then then the then the. water is fresher. The Mhm. food tastes. better Yeah, you earned it too. Exactly. You earned it. It's just a good way to. start the day, too. You already did the. hard part. The most difficult part of. your day is done. Right. >> And then everything else and also like. that difficult thing makes the mental. difficulty of the rest of the day work. smoother. Yeah, you have a remember that.

old commercial? The army commercial? Which one? >> It was like we do by 6:00 a.m. >> [laughter]. >> Some [ __ ] like we do before 6:00 a.m. what most people do all day. Yeah. It's. like back when you first you know, when. I saw it when I was young I was like I. don't know what the [ __ ] they're talking. about. But as a man I'm like you know. what that's that's that's wisdom. Get up. in the morning, get your chi going. have a beautiful day. There's something. to that getting up early where you you. force yourself to work. You force.

yourself to rise. The comfort of your. bed calls you but you go [ __ ] you. You. get up, [laughter] you get [ __ ] done and. you're like I already won. I won today. I've got a victory. I've got a victory. over my inner [ __ ] You know, I got out. there. I did something. I'm laughing though cuz you said you. told the bed [ __ ] you. Yeah, that's what. you have to say. You have to get up. almost angry. [ __ ] you. >> [laughter]. >> No, you're not going to call me in there. with your octopus tentacles and suck me. into your depths. The depths of warmth. and comfort. No, [ __ ] you.

Get up. Get up, get going. That's why I. like to get in the cold first thing. That's my my morning routine is cold. plunge before I work out. As deep. Yeah. I can't do that. Now that that is that's. kind of extreme for me. I'm. you know, cuz I'm not [ __ ] with the. cold like that. You get used to it. I'm telling you. You. get used to it. It becomes like a normal. thing. How long how long you stay in. there? 3 minutes. Wow. It sucks. But. every time I do it I almost don't do it. Every time I do it I'm almost like don't. do this. I don't want to do this. [ __ ].

this. Right. And then I get in and I'm. like oh, we're doing it. We're doing it. And then I I I take my phone and I set I. got a little kickstand on the back of my. phone, you know? So, I put the timer on. there and I look at it and it's I got a. it's at a minute. So, I'm like, all. right, we're good. We're past the. minute. >> Once you get past the minute. >> minute mark is the tough part. Once you. pass the minute, it's pretty easy to get. to 3 minutes. You just relax. I only did. one ice bath. Uh. and it was um they had brought this uh. Tibetan Lama. to to New York and it was me, I forgot.

the brother name. We was doing this uh. TV show thing and they was trying to. find out. they like they was scanning our brains. and see what would happen. if we got in the cold bath before. meditating. then meditated and then get back in like. so whatever. But some some science [ __ ]. and I said, "Yeah, I'll do it." I don't. know why I agreed to it, but I did it. Right? But. uh. I got in the [ __ ] bro. And when I got in there, I was like, this is not the [ __ ] you know?

>> [laughter]. >> I'm like, this. And the host, he got in, too. Now, I don't know if that was his first. time or not. But he was younger than me, skinnier. than me. You know what I mean? And. when I couldn't take it no more. around 1 minute and whatever, it's it. was past the minute mark. Mhm. I got the. [ __ ] out, but he was still in there. And I was like, I can't have this. [ __ ] beat me. >> [laughter]. >> And yo, I got back in. Nice. You know.

what I mean? And I. they got some footage of that. I think I. stayed in I don't think it was 3. minutes, but I think I. really impressed myself because I'm. super. anti cold. Yeah. >> You know what I mean? I I run hot. I. stay hot. I'm the hot part of the of. getting, you know, when my wife is cold, she just put her hand on me and I'm I'm. the heater. [laughter]. So, so cold is like something that uh. Yeah, I don't like it. Right. I don't. enjoy it. But there's a little mind game.

that goes on. And the mind game is. almost immediately like, "Oh, [ __ ] this. Let's just [ __ ] Just get Let's get out. of here. Let's get out of here." You got. to ignore that and just concentrate on. breathing. So, what I do is I I breathe. to a count of 10. So, I do this one. >> [sighs]. >> two. three. >> [sighs and gasps]. >> And I just concentrate on the numbers. And then by the time I get to 10, it's.

basically like a minute and I'm relaxed. And then I just settle in there. It's. just you concentrate on breathing and. don't think about that party that wants. to get out. >> Right. So, maybe I'm I think I'm going. to I'm going to try a cold shower. It's. really good, man. Cold shower in New. York is great if you. like in the winter because that's real. cold. That's real cold. Like that's like. I used to take cold showers and My. friend Bob Cavallo, he used to do this. at our taekwondo school. He would take. cold showers after training and I was. like, "That guy is an [ __ ] animal.".

And I tried it a couple of times, but I. was a [ __ ] I did it like 15 seconds. and I jumped out. But he would just stay. there and lay in the cold freezing cold. winter cold water and just wash himself. And I was like, "This guy's an animal, man." I think my brother [snorts] Cung. Le, I haven't seen Cung Le in years. Cung Le, the fighter? Yeah. Yeah. Um. I remember we was cuz we did a movie. years ago in China. But he was he was the cold plunger of. the crew. Oh, yeah. Cung He's ahead of the curve. on all that [ __ ].

>> Yeah. Yeah. It's just it's the mental thing is where. it really where it benefits you. And not. just while you're in it, like doing it. cuz you don't want to do it, but when. you get out, you feel so good. Your. brain just is flooded with all these. endorphins. >> Right. You feel so good. And it lasts. for hours and hours. I'm I'm going to. I'm going to be. I'm going to revisit that. I think. there's like there's numbers on the. dopamine increase, but I I forget what. they are off the top of my head, but. there's a giant increase in dopamine.

that lasts like 2 to 3 hours after. you're getting out of the cold plunge. Wow, I didn't know that. Yeah. I didn't. know that. Well, yeah, I know you're. you're a long time martial arts student, and I think anybody that does martial. arts for a long time realizes that it is. as much for your mind as it is for. anything else. Yes. >> Like, it's not just a workout. It's a. workout, but it's also like there's. something about going through the. motions of of martial arts and training. in martial arts. It's so. it's it's so requires so much.

concentration, and it requires so much. of your focus that the rest of the world. kind of fades away, and and the impact. of it is relaxed. >> Right. Because of that. It's mental, physical, and spiritual. Yeah. Uh it's. emotional. Yeah. >> Um. it's will. You know, there's a there's a. esoteric thing um. you know, seven planes of energies or. five stages of consciousness. I don't. know if you've ever come across these. type of uh terms, but probably have, but. but sometimes we we get stuck on uh on.

just the three dimensions, you know what. I mean? Just three planes, you know? And. and you don't get to the emotional, you. don't get to the will part of it. You. don't get to the realization, the. control. Right? If you could get to realization, then you can control. what's going on because you realize what. it is. It's almost like you can now have. the foresight of what it is. Um and then then if if you could get to. that type of uh plane of energy, then the possibilities become infinite.

because you realize that that you like. it's you know, they say we all have a. free will. Right? But then you realize that the. will can be controlled. Right? You also. realize that with a strong will, you can. control others as well because some. people are walking around with weak. wills. Um That's how you start a cult. >> [laughter]. >> Oh, by by having a strongest will. >> [laughter]. >> You know, come here. Yeah, you made me.

I have a uh. I have a I do have a film and [ __ ]. right? Um um called One Spoon of. Chocolate. And I watched half of it. I had a. problem to There was a problem with the. the early screener. I was mirroring it. on my television and it kept breaking. up. It kept [ __ ] up where like the. sound would cut in and cut out. And I. did it a couple of times and then the. screener ran out cuz I guess you can. only watch it a few. So then I had to contact your people and. then they gave me another one, but then.

they gave me one on Vimeo and I watched. that in the gym today. So I watched the. first half of the movie and I'm going to. watch the second half in a little Oh, good. Take Take your time. Take your. time. It's It's It's It's a It's a crazy. one. It's a fun watch. It's a lot of. ways, but. >> And you did it with Tarantino. Yes. Yes. Yes. >> and it seems like kind of a Tarantino. kind of flavor to it. But I was I was I. brought it up cuz I say that there's a. there's a. character who actually takes ice. plunges, right? Yes. Um And cuz the bad. guy. Yeah, the the villain. So you're. talking about cults and things. In a way.

there's a scene where. when he when we introduce him, you could tell that everybody else there. are bending to his will, right? He shows. them how to do this and yo, you do this. and you do that. And there. there's the [ __ ] I guess the. weak-willed guy and he's like, "And. that's why Jimmy's the [ __ ] KING, MAN." [laughter]. RIGHT? SO I laughed at that. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. It was So that's the. point I'm making is that so will can.

control, you know what I mean? Yeah. >> But if you realize yourself and have. that self-realization, self-actualization, you gain control. over yourself, you know what I mean? And. control your planes of energy. So we are. talking about martial arts. And martial. arts help you achieve that goal. Yeah, my instructor used to say that martial. arts are a vehicle for developing your. human potential. Mhm. I like that. That if it's so difficult. that. in learning how to get I I don't like.

the term mastery cuz I don't think you. ever really master martial arts, but in. learning martial arts, the difficulty. that's involved in that it expands your. potential in everything that you do. I. agree. And for me, I I actually. you know, I always tell people on a physical. level, I I don't know if I'm good or not, to be. honest. You know what I mean? Took up. some hung gar and Shaolin, of course, uh. um little bit of wing chun here and. there, but but I don't claim to be like. a martial arts fighter.

But I will claim to be a martial artist. because of the mind, because the way I. think, because the way it allowed me to. think. You know, it's like a it's like I. have a probably 20 books on tai chi, and I read them. And so, I understand it. the application of it. Like there's a. meditation called the eight pieces of. brocade. You ever come across that one? No. So, uh it's. >> What's the word brocade? >> Yeah, brocade meaning blockage. Oh, okay. >> So, it's eight ways to unblock yourself.

Like to unblock your chi. Uh one of the first ones, of course, you. sit in lotus, and you just take your. thumbs and you bang on the back of your. basically your medulla oblongata. Like if you did Can I touch this real. quick, if you don't mind? >> Back of your head? Yeah, right here. Okay. You see how loud that You see how. loud that is? Yeah. Right? So, you cover. So, you cover your ears and you bang on. those drums first thing in the morning. Ooh. And it Exactly, and it opens up. some of your chakras. Ooh. So,

It feels weird. >> [laughter]. >> Because it's it's loud. It's It's loud. as it could be, right? Yeah. My point. being made by studying all these. different uh books is like, the physical. part, of course, is exciting, but to me, the mental part is even became more. exciting, the more that I can apply to. if therefore I can apply it to my music, I can apply it to business, I can apply. it to how to be a, uh, a better father, and all those things, versus, uh,

me just punching and trying to break a. brick, you know what I mean? >> Right, right, right. Yeah, there's, I. mean, that's Tai Chi, right? It's all. mental. The Tai Chi is, uh, a martial. arts, sort of, I mean, I guess like it. you would learn how to move your body. better, that could kind of help you if. applied in a self-defense situation, but it's much more of, uh, mental. martial art. Yes. >> And I used to, when I lived in San. Francisco, I used to watch people in the. park. These, uh, old Chinese people. would go out there and practice practice. Tai Chi. I was like, "What are they. doing?". >> [laughter]. >> I was a kid. I was, you know, I was. eight. I was dumb. But I was like, "What.

is the purpose of doing this all day?". Right. Like, and then, once you do it a. few times, you're like, "Oh, this is not. easy to do." And then, in doing that, it. cleans your mind of everything else. that's going on, cuz all you're. concentrating on is these movements. These very typical They're not stupid. Like, they've been doing this for. thousands of years for a reason, cuz it. it helps them. What a crazy thing about. Tai Chi, um, um, give you a little, uh, information about it that you may may. not know, but.

the idea with Tai Chi is that if you. master it, or you have that control over. it, you should be able to. move a thousand pounds with just 4 oz of. energy. So, the idea of them pushing constantly. means that something ever came to them, that's they push that aside without even. thinking about it. Mhm. Right? Because. just 4 oz of energy can divert It's. almost like tripping a giant. I think it's great on paper. >> [laughter]. >> An actual giant, I don't care how much.

Tai Chi you know, a dude is like a. 300-lb All American wrestler that comes. charging at you, You going to use 4 oz. of energy and divert him. Well, I'mma. argue that, right? The 4 oz you use is. just step to the side. Yeah, everybody. who says that, step to the side. That. [ __ ] doesn't work. It doesn't work. They. grab you. Right. And you're not getting. up. But then but then another. Well, I mean, a fight is a fight. That's. That's a That's a difference between a. martial art and a fight, right? >> Well, it's also just the the reality of. physics, you know? I mean, it's it's one.

thing if you're doing that to an. unskilled person, but to a skilled. person, really you need to know the skill that. they're applying. Like, you know what I. mean? Like, that's the difference. between like someone who is practicing. something that is great in theory, but I. mean, it's not it's not just. in theory, like physically and mentally, it's great for you, but it's just it's. not the right application in terms of. actual hand-to-hand combat. >> Yeah, I mean, a fight is a fight. I.

don't care. um. I mean, in my opinion, a fight is a. fight. I don't care which I don't care. you know, if you're the. best boxer in the world. that knock [ __ ] out like like. like one of our greatest fighters, Mike. Tyson, who wasn't just that he was a. fighter, he was a fighter. Right? Of course he had a skill set and. he was a well trained, but it but in the. peak of his.

fights, I don't care how much somebody else. trained, when he got in the ring to fight, they. weren't better fighters. They could have. been better boxers, better athletes, better whatever. So, I think a fight, and this is my opinion, uh it's an instinct. It's a. you know, like what you. you know. Like when Mike bit his ear, Mhm. right? Right. >> That's a fight. That's That's That has. nothing to do with with boxing. I think that was frustration, you know,

unfortunately. You know, that was uh Evander was. beating him up. Yeah. >> And I don't think he liked it. >> Evander was beating him up. Yeah. >> Uh professionally, skillfully in boxing. But then Mike went to fighting. Yeah. In. fighting, like in the like in MMA, you. can't bite in MMA. You can't bite in no. sport, right? Yeah. >> Uh you're not even supposed to hit the. nuts, right? You're not even supposed. to. I know, which is crazy cuz In a. fight, the nuts are one of the best. spots to hit. Exactly. [laughter] And. the eyes. You ain't even supposed to.

poke the eyes. My friend Eddie had a an. idea for a comedy sketch called ultimate. sack fighting where it's just dudes that. just just the nuts are the only target. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, it's amazing how vulnerable we. really are. Our balls just sitting on. the outside like that. Yeah, fights you. poke in the eye. I mean, you poke in the. eye in an MMA fight, the referee stops. the time and you get a point deducted. >> Right. But it's a very good technique in. an actual fight. >> Yeah, that's well, that's that's that's. what I meant by saying like So, you.

could train and train and train, but when you uh when it's life against. life or life or death, it's a whole. 'nother chamber of uh. of fighting for survival, you know what. I mean? >> There's some horrible videos of no rules. fights where they have these no rules. fights in Russia and a bunch of other. places, but they do them outside in a. field and these guys fight and this. wrestler gets this guy down and he just. shoves his thumbs in his eyeballs. And he might gets on top of him and he. just grabs his face and shoves and the. guy's just screaming and he's trying to. move his head away and he he taps.

There's blood all over his eyeballs. Party over. Party's over. [laughter]. Yeah, you realize like how devastating. that is, like the pain and the the just. the. And you know so crazy, the person who. did it, like the maybe the guy who got. the chance to do it, it's not easy. And tell me if you agree with this, you. could disagree, but. it's not easy to do that either. I don't. mean not easy that you can't do it. It's. not easy for your spirit to do it. Right. You see what I mean? Yeah, and so.

so that's that's a whole 'nother. chamber. It's like, "Yo, will you. do it?" Will you blind a man? >> Yeah, will you do it, right? And it's. like maybe you won't. And but if he will. and you won't Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's. it. >> That's the that's the that's what I. That's when my seafood says that about. he cuz he don't to train nobody how to. fight. He said, "I can't teach nobody. how to fight.". You know what I mean? I can teach you. how to build your body, how to build. your chi, how to build some strength, but a fight, bro,

it's it's different. There's no rules. It's It's life and death. It's like and. and and your will, going back to the. will we talked about, your will power. uh has better be strong to survive. I. love what Bruce Lee said, uh he. practiced the art of not fighting. You know what I mean? So, and I told. that to my son. I was like, "Yo, bro, listen. If you could run, bro, run.". Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> Be about it. If a [ __ ] chase you, you know, you got to you got to go to. you got to think on something, but if.

you could just yo that's that's right. there. Yo Yo Yo, you want to fight? Oh, yo, you know what, Joe? I'll see you later, bro. >> [laughter]. >> You know what I mean? I know there's too. many people that get into fights for no. reason and then you wind up changing the. rest of your life. You got a scar that's. going to be with you forever or you. accidentally kill somebody. It's stupid. It's a stupid thing to do. And there's so many men that feel like. they just have to prove themselves, which is what a gym is for. Go to the. gym. Go to the gym. Work out with. >> Exactly. with other fighters, train, get.

beat up, realize where you're at, get a a realistic sense of your actual. ability and then improve upon them. Yeah. But don't go getting in street. fights. Please, God, don't do it. Don't. do it. >> And uh for me, I put all my aggression. and all my energy into my art. You know, you think about um some of my. early songs, you know, waiting on a [ __ ]. rockets, bro. That was. That was like I used to had a I had a um. I had like a. problem of. I don't know if it was anger management,

maybe uh. but I but I would just like like I don't. know, like I needed to hear the sound of. breaking glass. I used to scream like Jesus was like, "Yo, this dude." Like cuz I cuz I was. and I realized that I had so much uh. anger in me. that you know, I couldn't really get it. out. I was kind of Hulk-ish in a way. like like back Bruce Banner or some. [ __ ] right? [laughter]. Uh but then through music. it started to come out and it started to. come out and to by the time I got to um.

um Wu-Tang Forever, a lot of my anger. was in the song. If you want beef, then. bring the ruckus. And like all that stage and all that. energy. So, it really helped me and then. I realized going to bring up to date to. my to my new film. I'm watching it and I'm just like, "Okay.". Once again, I took all the anger. and I put it into the art. You know what. I mean? There's actually a a character in the in.

the film uh. name his name is Unique. Did you. uh Did you catch that when you saw the. piece? Unique is the is the name of Ol'. Dirty Bastard. His original name was. Ashton Unique. Ah. >> And so, that was my way of uh. of giving homage to him by naming the. the lead character of my new film. Unique. And and and and he's and it says in the. film he says uh. "You got a problem with anger anger. management.".

>> [laughter]. >> Right? Right? He says He says, "Yeah, I'm working on that." And um. and it What I What I love about uh the. art of it is that. the problem that he had with anger. management was his reaction. Like a lot. of us we just react too much. We react. before we think. Mhm. Um cuz they say a man could think seven. times before he reacts. That's how fast. your mind can move, but we go on that. first impulse. But this this character. he keeps uh. he holds the anger until one morning.

he's uh. he's at he's at a veteran home, right? And he's sitting there and he's having. breakfast and he has this can. Right? You see you seen this thing, right? And. he's like he [snorts] digs the spoon in. there and it's like [ __ ] there's. nothing in it. Like it's it's not even. it's like one spoon of chocolate in it. And he gets what? Angry. And he bangs. it. Boom! Who the [ __ ] left one spoon of. chocolate in the can? But then it took a old man that was. settled. to tell him. one spoon of chocolate change a whole. glass of milk. It change the whole glass.

of milk. >> [laughter]. >> And then you notice that character from. that then he calmed down. He started. reading to the kids. He started So. and that was kind of me taking some of. my personality, some of you some of Old. Dirty's personality, some of. personalities that I see in my community. and putting it into this character. This. This say like yo, sometimes yo calm. down. Listen to the wisdom of your. elders. Right? Have you ever Have you ever um in. your life I'mma ask you have you ever. like. come across some old person whether it's.

a homeless guy, delivery guy, your. uncle, somebody. that you kind of didn't. look up to in no way. Just kind of they. was but then they say something to you. that's profound and change your life? Oh man. I'm I'm trying to find an example. I mean I've I've definitely gotten a lot. gotten a lot of advice from old-timers. But definitely people especially people. that have done a lot of things. You know, people that have accomplished. things and made mistakes and recovered. from their mistakes.

Right. Yeah. I mean I asked because I was. uh maybe 11. And it was a. like a dope fiend. that was dating my aunt. And he was at the table and [ __ ] and he. was like nodding but he was just. he was kind of in his in a chamber, bro. You know you know kids we looking at. looking at this guy and [ __ ]. And he said said something about like. you know I don't care, man. You got to. get knowledge, man. You got to get.

knowledge, man. God says right, man. You. got to get knowledge. I started reading since that day, bro. Really? Seriously. The dope fiend Yeah. inspired you to read. Yeah. He said cuz. he said you got to get What happened was. he had knowledge of self I guess back. before the drugs hit him. Ah. And now. he's like dead and he was like he was. just said you got to get knowledge. The. gods are right. The gods are right and. and so What was he on? What What was the. drug of choice? He was on [ __ ] he.

shot that [ __ ] up. Heroin? >> Yeah. Yeah. He was on heroin. >> That's the old days back when they shoot. it. Now everybody's on pills. Right. Yeah. >> I never I never I don't know about that, John. I don't know about it either but I. mean I don't know about it personally. but that's it's essentially what. oxycodone is. All those pain pills that you see all. these people dying of. >> Right. Opioids, right? Yeah. Opioids, yeah. The number one problem I mean I. think the the deaths in America it's. it's upwards of 70,000 a year. I know it's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah.

Just from the just from overdosing on. pills. >> Yeah and most of it happened because of. the Sackler family. The what? >> The Sackler family. This one family that. convinced people that taking these. incredibly potent opioids. Did you ever. see see that Netflix um docu-series. Painkiller? I didn't see that one. It's. really good. It's all about the Sackler. family. It's uh Peter Berg made it. Um same guy who made You know Peter? >> Peter, yeah. He's great. >> yeah. Lone Survivor he made it. A bunch.

of excellent movies. He's great. Uh he. made this uh documentary on. documenting how Well, it's not a. documentary, a docudrama series or. recreation showing how this one family. um they they wanted to figure out a way. where they could sell opioids to. everyone. And the way they did it was. like giving people pain management. tools, giving people medication that you. could be on forever. And they they made. it. and they pushed it through these.

different doctors and they had all these. hot ladies who were representatives of. the pharmaceutical drug companies that. come to the doctor and they were the the. reps that would come and sell the. things. And yeah, I mean, really. And. [snorts] they were all financially. incentivized to sell it and they tried. to pretend that it wasn't addictive and. they lied about that and they got who. knows how many thousands and thousands. and thousands of people ruined their. lives because of it. And. like I said, 70,000 die every year just. in America just from opioids.

>> That's crazy, bro. From overdoses. I. mean, and how many more would there be. of that if it wasn't for Narcan? That's the That's the That's the. counter, right? >> Yeah, that's the stuff that the EMTs. give you. If they find you overdosing, they give you Narcan and it it kills it. and brings you back to life. And uh. that one family, you know, no one's. going to jail. No one's going to jail. They I mean, I don't even know how much. they've been fined. Mhm. But if it. wasn't for what they did and again, well. documented in that Netflix series, it's.

it's horrific, man. It's really It's. really terrifying. Because it's not just. the people that died, the people that. are addicted, it's all the family. members that were affected by them, all. the children of those people and what. happened with their lives, all the. spouses and the brothers and sisters of. those people and what happened with. their lives. >> Right. That's crazy. Maybe then when you were. saying that, my my my imagery in my head. was that scene in American Gangster. when uh it was like Thanksgiving. and and they showed. uh Frank Lucas at the table with his.

whole family. They had a nice spread of. food. And then they the camera went and. showed all the families that was hooked. on the blue magic drug. >> Yeah. They had like a lady dying over. here. The kid The kid looking at her. mother dead or. So, the with the difference I guess. that's the image that came in my head. when you said that but that I guess the. difference is in that particular case. uh somebody goes to jail and pays the. price for the crime. But in this. particular case you're saying that.

nobody Nobody went to jail. They did it. legally. Somehow or another they pimped. it out and then sold it to everybody. legally. I mean it's it's it's sick. They're the biggest drug dealers that. have ever existed. [ __ ] all these street. drug dealers. I mean these guys. killed 70,000 people a year for who. knows how many years. And it was. probably more than that before they. figured out Narcan. And And part of it. is also because people get addicted to. it and then they get stuff from the. cartel that has fentanyl in it and. that's why they're dying. But there's a.

bunch of people that just died from. straight up overdose of opioids, too. It's terrifying. And And it's over the. counter? Yeah, and yeah, no, it's not. over the counter. You have to get. prescribed but doctors are happy to. prescribe it for you. I got my nose. fixed. I had a deviated septum. And they cleaned it out and the. I I was leaving the doctor's office and. he gave me two prescriptions for. opioids. And I said uh. but I don't I'm not in pain. He goes, "But you you probably will be." And I. go, "But is it going to be worse than.

this right now? Like we're just out of. the operation." And my nose was I have. like this these things stuffed up your. nose to keep your nostrils open and And. I was like, "Are you sure it's going to. be worse than this?" And he gave me two. prescriptions. And I I went home and I. was like, "I don't need these." Like I. didn't fill them. But I'm like, "This is. not But this guy was giving me two. different opioids to take. You You been. He would have had You would have went. back. >> I probably would have been hooked. >> Yeah, you would have went back. >> know a lot of people that got hooked,

man. I'm not I'm. I'm under no illusion that I'm stronger. than those people that I would have. figured out a way to not get hooked. So. many people that I know got hooked. So, you're saying like let me just [snorts]. go back on this cuz. I actually don't take nothing, bro. Like. I drink tea or. you know, I'm very um I mean, I do pump. a asthma inhaler. >> [laughter]. >> Do you? Yeah, when I get when I get it. cuz I had asthma since I had asthma all. my whole life. Other than that, I don't. really take no Tylenol or nothing, bro.

Yeah, [ __ ] all that stuff. >> But, you're saying though. at the end of the day, let's take it. doing this back at you. The doctor basically. sling gave you some free [ __ ]. >> Yeah. to kind of have you as a customer cuz. when crack came out, I remember this. >> he's financially incentivized. >> That's what I mean. >> they're financially incentivized to. prescribe you this cuz he didn't say. "If you're in pain, contact me and I'll. fill you a prescription." Cuz it's just. my nose, man. >> Right. It's just the nose. It's not that. big a deal. Like I slept fine. I.

It was nothing. That's crazy. >> And I tried to tell him I'm like, "I. don't understand why you're giving me". Like we had a conversation. I go, "Is it. going to be worse than it is right now?". Like right now, I'm not in any pain. He. goes, "It could probably get worse." I'm. like, "How much worse?" Cuz right now, I. don't feel anything. It's like nothing. It's like mildly uncomfortable because I. have these tubes stuffed up my nose. >> Right. But, this is not This doesn't. require heroin. This is [laughter]. crazy. I'm not laughing at you, bro. I'm. laughing. I'm just But, it is kind of. nuts. It's it's kind of financially.

incentivized. Now, let me go back to the film. >> [laughter]. >> No, because. in the film, there's a. there's a um. article. that uh I have a opens up in the in the. paper. It's not the same subject, but. it's a medical thing. And then it says. it says like, "This This particular. county is leading Right. >> is leading in in this particular process. because there's money in it. >> Mhm. If there's money, sadly Yeah. You.

know, I mean and and that's it's a. movie, but sadly, if there's money. involved uh people can become insidious, right? People can become like uh. Yeah, you you you could get strung out. you could get strung out. I don't sold. You know, I got I I wrote 20. prescriptions this week. And they're not cheap, right? How much. is the prescription when they when you. fill it? Is that like 40 bucks? 100. bucks? I don't know. It's not cheap, but. more importantly, the doctor gets. incentivized. That's what I mean. Some.

dark [ __ ] I was reading about this. doctor that was an oncologist, so he's. dealing with cancer patients. And he was. giving chemotherapy to people that. didn't have cancer because it would get. him more money. Yeah, that kind of hit my emotion cuz I. just lost my brother to cancer, my. brother Powell. Yeah. I'm sorry to hear that. I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah, it's one of the most profitable um.

medications, unfortunately, for. physicians. Well, not unfortunate Look, if it saves your life, that's wonderful. But the reality is this one doctor that. I'm discussing, this one doctor decided. that he was going to get paid more by. just giving chemotherapy to people that. didn't have cancer. So, he diagnosed a bunch of people. with cancer that didn't have it. Said, "Oh, unfortunately, you have cancer. The. good news is we get you on chemotherapy. right away. We think we can kick it.". And they were regular people with. nothing wrong with them and these this. [ __ ] guy gave them poison. Do you.

know how much the chemo cost? It's very. expensive. Yeah, it's about 30 to 60. grand a uh. uh a hit. Yeah, I'm not I'm not. surprised. And the doctors uh. profit off of that. It's one of the most. profitable medications the doctors. prescribe, unfortunately. And look, most. doctors would never [ __ ] imagine. doing that in a million years. But this. one doctor, like his his thought process. was, "Hey, this is how I get paid. You. know, I'm dealing with all this. overhead. I'm dealing with all this.

liability insurance. I'm dealing with. medical school bills. I'm dealing with. all this. [ __ ] this. I'm just going to. start prescribing a little bit of. chemotherapy here and there to people. that don't actually have cancer.". And I don't know how he got caught. I. don't know what happened, but I think it. was just They got him, though. There was. some red flag Yeah, they got him. He's. in jail. There was some red flag where. they noticed, like, "Why are so many. people getting cancer with this one. doctor? Like, why is his number so high? It doesn't It's not representative of. the normal. >> that is right. Yeah. That's crazy, bro.

But that's what That's what's hard to. imagine is that money would incentivize. someone to. tell a person, like, how many people. just commit suicide cuz they think. they're dying of cancer? And they go. They go, "Fuck, I'm not going to I don't. want to do this. I don't want to suffer. I'm just going to [ __ ] go out on my. own terms." You know? Yeah, well How. many people How many people's lives did. that ruin? Well, I don't Well, it's. fortunate I was telling you like I had I. had I had I had I had I had to kind of. emotionally rebound from that because. it's just.

you kind of made me think like, you. don't know like like, you know. we don't have the answer to [ __ ] you. know what I mean? And things happen in. life and sometimes you just like. you know? But I I I do have instinct and. I always you know, I just felt that. something wasn't uh I don't know. I. won't even go there. But. you said that money Why would the Why. would he do it for the money? It's like, "Yo, everything is for the money, bro.". [ __ ] is doing. you know, cash rules everything around.

me, bro. >> You know what I mean? >> money. Dollar, dollar, dollar, bill. >> was stuck on that, you know what I mean? The The goal, hopefully, cuz we live in. a capitalist society Well but the goal. should be that cash doesn't rule you. Money shouldn't rule you. Right. We need. it. You know what I mean? You know, food, clothing, and shelter. You going. to You going to need that. There ain't. nothing given here, but. but it doesn't surprise me, you know, that. that's the motivation for insidious. behavior, you know?

I was um I'm going to go back a little. history here. Um it's We're working on another project. where we tap into. It's kind of fantasy. I I I just write. off my imagination, but but I I had the. the this family. uh they are they are answer They their. ancestors are from Congo. And in the Congo, they trace their. ancestry back to the Leopold days. And you think about the Leopold days,

millions of Africans were mined, chopped. off their arms and [ __ ]. All because the gag was they wanted them. to work and to get the rubber from the. rubber tree. So, the rubber at one point became the. main gold. of the world, right? And and King Leopold went over to Congo. Well, you can toss in out of this [ __ ]. All right, that's the that's the. the fictional story, but he goes over.

and I think they said. at minimum. 2 million people. But I think it's 5 million. that were. just. mined or killed. just for the economic profit of what. those rubber trees was offering to uh. Western civilization. >> right now with cobalt. I had this guy Sidharth Kara on the. podcast. He wrote a book Do you Jamie, do you remember what the name of that. book was?

His book on cobalt mining in the Congo. So, cobalt is a critical mineral that's. used in cell phone batteries. >> Yeah. And many electronics. And uh that is cobalt red. The blood of. the Congo powers our lives. It's a very. disturbing conversation. And he had he. snuck in uh cameras and got some footage. of these people doing what you know, you. think that this stuff is mined in some. sort of industrial process. Look at. this. This is how these people are.

mining. And you've got women who are uh. have babies on their backs. And all this cobalt that they're. knocking out of the ground is completely. toxic. Some of them just have like a. bandana over their mouth that they're. using to protect themselves from it. But. look how deep that is with human beings. that are just pulling cobalt. They live. on dirt floors. They they live at the. lowest level poverty imaginable. They. don't have clean water. They don't have. good food. And they are pulling out a.

mineral that's essential to the most. technologically sophisticated aspect of. our society, which is our connectivity. through the internet, through cell. phones. And this is at the which is kind. of crazy if you think of like. the most technologically sophisticated. aspect of our society, if you follow it. all the way down to the very bottom of. the food chain, you've got slave labor. And that's a giant percentage of the. cobalt that's in our cell phones and our. electronics is coming out of this place.

You know, what's so I never seen that. before, bro. >> A lot of them are run by China. Yeah, and it's it's very scary, man. >> seen it. But but I wrote a lyric. that touches upon it. I never I never. seen those images before. He's got. video. See if you can find the video. The video's dark. >> my lyrics said uh. Let's see if I can remember my lyric. It. was a song I wrote called The Fate of. the World. Is in your hand. It was me and DJ. Scratch. And uh. what I I knew that I knew that.

cobalt or I knew that they was getting. the mineral from Congo. Um but I didn't know it like that. It. was something like, you know, as a. artist, you have [ __ ] antenna, right? You get [ __ ] But I said something uh. I said I'm trying to remember the lyric. I said. It was like uh. um. Hey, could you pull up the lyrics to. to RZA's song "Faded in the World" as. well? Can you do this? >> Yeah, play that video real quick, but. please. Look at this.

How crazy is this? By the way, all this. seen almost biblical toil, the prize is. cobalt. And here's the thing, all this. [ __ ] is super toxic. So, all these. people are breathing in this insanely. toxic dust, and they're knocking out of. the ground with hammers and carrying it. off in bags. >> this [ __ ] yo. >> Yeah. This is This is This looks. biblical, bro. Right. And imagine how. [ __ ] heavy these bags are, and. they're just doing this all day long. Look at these guys struggling to pick. those bags up. And they're carrying this [ __ ] all day.

long, and they're just knocking into the. ground trying to pull out this cobalt. And the thing is is like this is what we. need to power our phones, which is so. crazy. If you think about all these. people that are virtue signaling about. how wonderful and ethical and moral they. are, they're doing it on a phone that is. literally powered by slave labor. That's crazy. >> It's crazy. And it's crazy that this is. going on in 2026, and most people aren't. even aware of it. >> is Well, you're back like I just said.

that that my the project I'm working on. now, we just talked about it. We We take. We're tracing it back to the rubber. tree, but Yeah. it's still going on. >> on. Still going on. And that's just. cobalt. There's other stuff that they're. mining there, too, that's it's very. similar. There's other other. what they call conflict minerals. Pull. up Pull up my lyric for uh "Faded in the. World". Just wanted to just point out. what I said what I said there if you if. you if you got that on Genius or. something. There it is. >> Yeah, it says uh.

a thousand years of darkness, the world. got struck with sorrow. Hollow be the. name. We need a better tomorrow. Go to the second uh the second verse. Let me see. Uh. Uh let me see. Wait. Oh, no, wrong song. That's what it was. Wait, I got too many. songs. >> [laughter]. >> Uh it's called uh. >> [snorts]. >> You forgot the name of your own song. That's hilarious. Yeah, I got You got. too many songs. What's the other one on. that one? Uh.

Um go open that We No, not that one. Go. to the other uh the other uh what do you. call it? The other Go to the album. title. Yeah, hit the the album Saturday. afternoon. You're going to edit some of. this, right? No. You're not editing? Okay, well, we going Y'all going Y'all. going to bear with us. >> [laughter]. >> Saturday afternoon come food theater. >> go to the. uh. Oh, it's called the uh. Wait, the great fisherman, right? Let me. see the titles of the songs. Uh fisherman. Fisherman. >> Fisherman. Yeah, pull that one up.

>> [laughter]. >> Put those legs. >> So, what is Genius? Genius is it shows. all the lyrics? Yeah. >> That's what it is? And then it actually. has a song underneath it. Oh, that's. cool. I didn't even know that existed. >> can annotate and tell you what people. were meant by what they said. >> Yeah. Oh, really? >> Yeah. On Genius? >> Yeah. Oh, cool. >> there. There you go, look. The great. fisherman official man I'm trying to. make a remedy for the elixir of sin. A. premonition, we need divine. intervention. The whole world is a The. whole world is a stage, so it's time for. intermission. In the middle of the Congo.

jungle, there's a combo of concentrated. elements that make the world's phones. glow. >> Wow. >> got a small zone for their phones, though, cuz they don't even got. reception out there. But we used to. communicate just banging on the bongo. That's when the village was more. motherly and more brotherly. But then. the dust came through and killed them. all for the rubber tree. King Leopold. city was built from a sea of gold and. the ressurectors still trading on a. silky road. Yeah. Those are some bars. Respect. That's a.

good point. >> But I not not doing that to show off or. nothing but. >> real. Yeah. Yeah, but you just gave me. but you gave me like the full. You gave me the connotation and the. annotation of the lyric by I could I. didn't even see none of I never seen. that before. Oh, that's crazy. >> I just heard that they got to get it. from there and I knew the history of. King Leopold. But I did not know that. This is still Still? This is crazy, bro. >> Yeah, it's still going on and it'll. continue going on as long as no light is. shown on it. And this is what Siddhartha.

Kara was trying to do with his book and. you know, the the tour that he was doing. and doing podcasts and trying to let and. he I mean he risked his life, man. I. mean they questioned him and he got very. lucky that he got out of there with that. footage. because they want to make sure that. nobody knows about this [ __ ]. They don't want any outrage. They want. the mining to keep going as planned. >> I mean It's it's dark. It's dark. Yeah. Because it's a multi multi-billion. dollar industry that's powered by abject.

poverty. >> Probably trillion. >> Yeah, yeah, cuz like. >> Yeah. It's just like you just saying. like if it's if it's in all our phones, that means. >> Not just our phones, but I think it's in. a lot of electronics. I think it's might. be. Is cobalt in electric cars? I think they're. they're trying to make new formulations. of batteries without cobalt. So there's a Jamie, what is that? I know. a lot of the Chinese cell phones are. using a different battery technology. instead of lithium ion. They have.

something else that's more dense. Well, that's yeah, cobalt's a critical. component in lithium. ion batteries. That's this. That's crazy. >> Yeah, lithium ion batteries. What are. the What is like Oppo? There's a bunch. of these new Chinese companies that have. cell phones that have much more battery. like instead of like. like a Samsung Galaxy. S26 Ultra has a 5,000 milliamp. uh battery in it. I think these Oppo.

phones have 7,000 plus, but it's I think. it's carbon silicon based Mhm. batteries. I wonder if they have cobalt. in them. They've they've they've you know as. technology for batteries. changes and advances, they need. different kinds of components in them. >> Right. But I mean then you got to find. out where where are they getting that. [ __ ] from? Is that another like conflict. mineral that they have people digging. out of the ground with sticks? But other.

thing to think about, you know, just the. Okay, let's say it is worth trillions of. dollars. Like when do. um. the people who you know, like if that's. on my property, bro, you know what I'm saying? It's my You. can't on my crib for it. I should get. get paid off of that. >> Right. >> I should be. I I mean [snorts]. Well, you know how it works. China comes. in. It's a lot of these are Chinese run. China comes in, they pay off the people. that are in power in these areas, and.

those people will get wealthy, and then. all the people that are with the. workers, they all get. like pennies. as small a wage as you could possibly. pay them to keep them alive. These. people live on dirt floors. No food. It's horrible. It's It's really dark, man, because it's what powers. electronics, which is nuts, cuz that's. the most sophisticated aspect of our. society in terms of technology. >> But the government of those places, they're not to get here like I'm a like. you know, I'm a artist, you know, I'm a.

spiritual man. But it. they should be like, yo, hold on, bro. Yeah. >> Like like in Alaska, right? There's a pipeline that goes through. Alaska. You know about this pipeline, right? >> Sure. But the citizens of Alaska gets a. They get a royalty for that. >> Yes. Okay. Like the the Like if I'm in Congo and I. got this cobalt that's worth trillions. and I got all all these people, give. them a give them a royalty. 100%. If. that was America, that would probably. the only way to do it. But obviously you.

couldn't pay people the way you pay. people in the Congo in America anyway. We have laws. But this is also why they want illegal. immigration. That's part of the reason. why they like illegal immigration is. because you don't have paperwork. You. don't have to pay people what they're. supposed to get paid. Do you pull that. back up again, Jamie, please? How about. the silicon carbide batteries? So it seems like one of the reasons for. utilizing this new technology is because. it's not using as much cobalt. So advanced lithium-ion technology using.

silicon to replace traditional graphite. anodes offering roughly 20 to 40% higher. energy density and faster charging, especially in smartphones. Is there anything I thought the law It. did cuz I had cobalt added onto it. Yeah. So it has cobalt in there as well? Um. But less maybe. >> enables more sustainable cobalt-reduced. designs. So you have less cobalt. and it's more energy density. So these Chinese phones are Yeah, here.

it is. Honor Magic 5 Pro. A lot of these. OnePlus 13, a lot of these Chinese-made. Android phones are using. much more advanced battery technology. >> So they're trying to ease up on it a. little bit, basically? I mean, I don't. know. The hard The question is like well. where you getting everything else? Where's all that [laughter] other [ __ ]. that's in your phone? And how you mining. that? If you're hiding how you mine. cobalt, how you mining all the other. stuff? Cuz they're all conflict. minerals. And a lot of these minerals,

unfortunately, are mined out of the. third world. They find them in these. places where people are really poor. And. the And the people that live there, they. don't benefit from it. Their lives don't. get any better. In fact, they get worse. cuz they get poisoned. Well, the thing. the thing that but but hey, hey, let me. add some wisdom to that. The people got. to realize that they are not poor. Right? Because if that is valuable and you're. standing on it, then you're standing on. value. You know, And that's why they. keep them poor because they can't. organize them. >> but think about the Holy Quran for a.

moment, right? Let me let me go ahead. for little spiritual here, right? So, in the Holy Quran, it mentions that. uh. you know, if the Muslims were to do what. they was going to do, that they would have many wells. All right? Because, you know, they. living in the desert basically, right? And it says they're going to have. abundant of wells. It's not an abundant of water wells in. the Middle East. Right? And these are the people that are. living nomadic, economically not really.

at the level of the rest of the world. But it's a prophecy telling them that. they're going to have wells. But what. kind of wells they end up having? Oil. Oil wells. Yeah. Right? And so now all. of a sudden, they become the most. richest. small region in the world. >> Right. So, the promise is fulfilled, right? But the gag is that the people. got to realize sometime where you stand. where you stand.

on your land. You know what I mean? The. value of it, as the Bible would say, "Yo, work to the sweat of your brow to dig. and plow and make your land valuable.". But now, if you if so if if I'm just. saying that the people where they going. to get whatever they going to get, bro. Okay? I don't care if you going to get. some berries in the Amazon. If the. berries is worth money, then the dude. who got all the berries got to realize. that yo, bro, right? Let's make a deal. But you but it seem like that ain't. happening. No.

No, it's not happening. And the reason. why it's not happening is because you. have enormous corporations come in from. other countries, they get contracts, and. they pay off the people that are the. leaders of these countries or the people. that are the leaders of the military, and then those people keep these people. oppressed. And that's what I mean, it's. it's the people that are running these. countries that are making sure that. these people don't get paid what they. deserve so that they can keep them. working there for slave wages. So, they. keep their profits as high as possible.

They also keep the options as low as. possible. So, people don't have any. options. Right. >> If you're living in the Congo and you're. you're near where these cobalt mines. are, what are your other options? Right. You know? I remember I'm going to shout. out Burna Boy. Uh Burna Boy is a good. dude. He um he had told me some. gave me some insight about uh. Nigeria and and and and like he was. saying to me like how Wu-Tang when we. was young, you know, we had to sling. street pharmaceuticals. Right? But out.

there oil is like a street. pharmaceutical. Like dudes was was. slinging. uh petrol and slinging oil and [ __ ] In. Nigeria? Yeah. Wow. It's like that's. crazy, right? >> It's crazy. But the gag I'm saying is. that still, you know, of course the. government controls all that, but but. sometimes the people got to just. uh snap, you know, just yo, I don't. know, stand on your land, yo, and and and and and realize the value of.

where you stand. You know, every man. ha- has a value. Um. right? We we all walk with a living. value. Every life is precious. Every. life that's born changes the world. Soon. as somebody is born today, yeah, this. ain't the same world it was yesterday. Right. Soon as somebody returns to the. essence, this ain't the same world. But. so we got to kind of but the people I'm. going back to the people, not to the. military or to the government. The. people got to realize that yo, hold on, bro. It's you. You're the value. Because. without them, right? Until they do get.

10 million robots to do that [ __ ] which. I don't I'm not opposed to that. Right. Send 10 million robots to dig it up, bro. And and and and still though, if. it's on my land, break me off. You know what I mean? But. people got to snap into that. >> Well, these are these places are all. guarded by the military. So, it's all. people with guns. You can't leave. You're doing their bidding, you'll get. shot. They kill people, they bury you, no one notices, no one cares. The value.

of human life is extremely low. Yeah, it's it's it's satanic. It's dark. >> jump back on my film because in my film, the value of life. is once again. um. we're talking about the world, but yet I. got to relate it back because in our. film, the value of life seems low as. well, right? Low for the person living. Uh more for the valuable for the person. that kills them. The right. Yeah.

Without giving too much of the film. away, um what happens in the film. actually happens in real life. I mean, that that is it's based I mean, you say. it's based on real life, but it there's. been real life cases of people they've. harvested people's organs for profit. Yeah. And that's a thing. I mean, that's. a big problem with people in China. You. know, people go to China for for organs. Like there's a tourism to get organs. replaced. Like say if you need a new. kidney or need a new liver or whatever. We got it. Yeah, they have it. And what. they'll do is they'll take their [ __ ].

prisoners and they Oh, look, AB blood. type, perfect. Whack. And then now you got some dude's heart. Business. Yeah. Crazy. >> another element that um. um. It's the RZA right here. I'm live on Joe. Rogan podcast. >> [laughter]. >> I got a new film coming out May 1st. It's called Once Upon a Chocolate. Uh. written and directed by the RZA starring. Shameik Moore, Paris Jackson, Blair. Underwood, Rakim Dunbar to name a few. It's produced by Quentin Tarantino and.

my wife Telani Diggs. Hey, baby. I I did I did a. a a official radio drop cuz It sounded. like we were on the radio. >> Yeah, I did a. >> [laughter]. >> Ladies and gentlemen, uh, this is the RZA. Coming in at 5:00 after the hour. >> [laughter]. >> And um, but. I love how art can touch upon. things even if it's uh, unintentional, right? Um, what I mean by. unintentional is that. you know, as a artist, I just let the. [ __ ] flow. Like I did like when you.

showed all that. uh, Congo Cobalt Mhm. I never seen it. But yet it's in your lyrics. >> Yeah, but it's in my lyrics. And even as you're telling me this China. stuff here. I don't know about that. I I do know. some things that happened but some. articles, but I wasn't I'm not. in-depth in-depth What in-depth? I N D E. P T H. Yeah, that's I have in-depth knowledge. of it. But I But I strive as an artist, Joe, is to. actually to least show the surface.

so that, you know, I don't know how deep. the pool is. but I will show show the surface through. my art. Um, and I think in this film, which is a it's an action film though, right? So Joe only seen the first half of it so. he doesn't know about the. revenge-o-matic ass kicking. And I'm not. going to spoil it for you. Why I believe. it, there's already plenty of ass. kicking already. Right. Right, exactly. Same song, okay. But it gets [ __ ]. You're going to have a good time. I'm. sure. You're going to have a good time. But.

still once again, the art of it um, it has a. I'm realizing as I'm watching with. different audiences, like when I watched. it in uh, New York I had [ __ ] yelling at. the screen, "Fuck that uh, uh.". >> [laughter]. >> It was saying the name of the song and. [ __ ]. When I watched it in LA, the audience. was like. it was a like a sense of nervousness. that was in the room. Mhm. When I. watched it in Chicago, it was standing. ovation. You know what I mean? I watched it in. San Francisco and then the Q&A was very.

intellectual. So, I'm I'm realizing. that, okay, this is touching. Then when. I watched it this other place, the girl. with Dave actually, I watched it with. Dave Chappelle. He said that uh. "You got bars in this motherfucker." I. said I said, "What do you mean by bars?". He said, "Well, the guy says. the girl says. first the girl this this come You. haven't seen this scene yet, but Paris. Jackson. is telling him that everybody in this. town. goes to church on Sunday. except for Jimmy.

and his gang of degenerates. They party. all night Saturday. and they sleep all day Sunday. She said, "And I guess they're not. afraid to go to hell.". And then the hero says. "Where where I come from. they say heaven is what you make it. and hell is what you got to go through. to get it.". And she was like, "That sounds like" And. Dave was like, "That's a [ __ ] bar!". >> [laughter]. >> Hey yo, hold on. So, last time I was.

here it was Donnell Rawlings was here, right? [laughter] So, check it out, bro. I was showing the film to Dave, right? And we going to do a Q&A. I'm in I went. to Yellow Springs, Ohio, bro. >> Was Donnell there? Bro. >> [laughter]. >> He was there, yo. And then he got up and he asked a. question. And he started. he he he he interrupted. he talked about the day we was here and. he cuz you inspired him to do a podcast. I remember you said, "Yo, start a. podcast." Bro, you might have even. helped him, right? And then he said.

then I said, "Yo, yeah, if you need. [clears throat] something, hit me." So, he hit me up. Said, "Yo, let me get a. opening theme track.". And so, I got like a a bunch of beats. that's on my little thumb drive. I sent. them like five of them. All right, and he chose one. >> Yeah, he told me about this. Yeah. So now he chose one and that becomes his. theme. And it's just it was a nice. [ __ ] but that same five tracks. my manager is sending it to other people. too and [ __ ] So I can I did give it to. D'Angelo. I gave it to him gratis.

But he comes up in the middle of my Q&A. with Dave about my film and he starts. talking about the beat and he says. RZA is an Indian giver. >> [laughter]. >> He said. He said I was I he said I I was playing. he said I had it on my podcast for. almost 2 years and then one day. it said flag license. whatever they do and [ __ ]. when you can't use the [ __ ]. [ __ ] And I was like um. I said oh yeah bro yeah the the the.

people from the Minions they had got. um. those five tracks as well and and and. they chose it and they put it and they. put it and they paid us a lot of money. Yeah. And and I'm not not saying I'm not going. back to the money of it all but. >> [laughter]. >> I was so I told him I said yo let's. choose another beat. He said nah son. that was the one. That was the one. I said bro they chose. it. My manager made the deal. >> Oh no. >> It's off the table now. Oh no. So he had. to change his opening? Yeah so I Oh no.

That gives him more to complain about. >> Yeah. Oh no. >> It's almost worth giving him the beat. just so he doesn't have to [laughter]. complain. Yeah. I owe you D'Angelo and. then I'm going to hook you up with. something. I'm actually going to hook. you up something nice. All right? I. can't wait for this phone call. >> [laughter]. >> SON, YOU KNOW WHAT HE DID TO ME SON? HE TOOK IT BACK. HE SAID THAT [ __ ] IN FRONT OF THE. AUDIENCE AND I. I COULDN'T I couldn't deny it and [ __ ]. I was like yeah. They they they you. know. >> That's hilarious. That's hilarious. Um.

but anyway um but they loved the film. too. Like like the audience and and uh. um I only say that because I love I love. them and my peers react to something. >> your first feature-length film? >> It's my fourth. Fourth. Yeah. >> I know you've done other stuff, but this. did you have you written and done other. things like this? I wrote my first film. and This is my second one writing. So, I. wrote my first film and with the IFS. Right. >> Right. Uh which was a Quentin Tarantino. present as well. And then.

it was a you know kung fu movie. So, then I didn't want to get stuck and. like oh, that's all he does. So, my. second film I didn't write. Uh it was. written by the Nicole. And she um. she it was called Love Beats Rhymes. Uh. and uh that was like a movie about. poetry and a female lead and it was. actually um. John Da- JD Wat- John David Washington, it was his first feature film as well. >> Um and then my third film was called Cut. Throat City. Which I didn't write. Um.

this once again I hired gun as a. director. And and that film I had. Shameik Moore as the lead actor. And. I kind of like fell in love with his. talent. So, that's why he was in Cut. Throat City. He's in the Wu-Tang series, he plays Raekwon. Mhm. >> And now he's the star of my new film. So, he's kind We kind of got this. uh. I hate to say it, but we kind of got. this uh. this Denzel Spike Lee energy, this. Coogler Michael B energy. I I really. like this guy. But on this particular.

film, yes. I decided to write it and directed. Um. and. I'm back to the basic, right? Quentin. Tarantino presented my first film and. now here's my fourth film and he's back. in the building. And one of my favorite. songs from that first soundtrack is. Baddest Man Alive that you did with. Black Sheep. And then and dude, that. song that song killed it. >> Shout out to um. Shout out to [snorts] Dan. and Patrick, y'all. You know two cool.

cats. They're. >> They're cool as [ __ ] and that song kills. it. That song kills it. That's such a. good song. A bunch of dudes use that. song as walkout walkout for the UFC. >> Yeah. I I seen it on a [ __ ] car. commercial one day. I'm like, okay. Did. you guys listen to the lyrics? >> [laughter]. >> Right. I guess all you need is that. hook, right? Right. Yeah. On on this on. this uh how we doing on time? We good? >> Yeah, we're plenty good. On this on this. particular film uh. I got a guy named you know Jason Isbell?

Yeah, sure. Yes. So Jason Isbell did a. song. uh in the film uh it's called uh. comic book life. And um. it was you know it's my first. collaboration with him as well and um. and it was it was a pleasure. Uh. lyrics go, Jesus Christ. walked this Jesus Jesus Christ may have. walked on water. and Superman flies through the sky. The immigrant crossed the border he's.

looking for a better life. Trying to find it he's reminded that. dreams are born to die. His reality. kills his fantasy. It's not a comic book life. You know. what I mean? Mhm. And I so it goes on um. um. and I and so I try to when I do films I. try to make like a unique musical. collaboration. Of course that was me and. the Black Keys back then and but on this. on this. uh.

on this film we got like music from. Jason Isbell. We got clearances from the. Isley Brothers. who check this out, bro. I'm on the plane 3 days ago heading to. Atlanta to show the film. Guess who's sitting in first class in. the seat right there. Ronald Isley. I never met him before. I'm like a big fan. I love his music. I. got two of his songs in my movie. And I'm like and I'm going to show and I. look over I'm like my wife is like, "Yeah, that's the one.". And I was like, I got a chance to get up.

and thank him. uh for, you know, for his work and for. even allowing. uh his music to be in my film because um. that was that's special. Oh, that's. cool. >> Are you a Ronald Isley fan? Not really. You're not an Isley Brothers. bro? Listen bro, you got to let me I'm I. got to put you on some Isley Brothers. bro because. if you know, I'm quite sure you love. life is good, all right? >> [laughter]. >> I'm quite sure you got a good love life. bro. But if you ever get into any love life. trouble,

okay? Put on the Isley Brothers. It will. smooth it out. >> Tell me what to get. I'm going to say. Sensuous. Sensuous? Yeah. Put that one on. And um. and uh yeah, I'm going to give you that. one because. when that the way that comes on bro, your shoulders going to start moving and. [laughter] [ __ ]. Okay. All right. [snorts] Come in with two. glasses of wine. Bro, it's the. you're going to be good. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, I'll check it out. Who Who's your.

Who's your. uh. um Who's your fav- favorite musician? Oh. boy, I don't think I have a favorite. musician. I don't even have a favorite genre. Mhm. You know, I I like all kind I mean, if. you look at my Spotify green room. playlist, it's all over the place. It. goes from Nina Simone to Bill Withers to. Wu-Tang to Lynyrd Skynyrd to Led. Zeppelin. It's all over the place. To. Gary Clark Jr. to. It's everywhere. I I I move around.

>> some dope [ __ ] Okay. >> around. I like all kinds of [ __ ] I'll. listen to Dwight Yoakam and I'll I'll. follow it up with um you know, Kool G Rap. I like uh you know, one of. my favorite albums ever is when um the. Brand New Heavies. Did you ever listen. to Brand New Heavies when they got Heavy. Rhyme Experience? Did you ever to listen to that? I don't. know if I know that particular uh Oh, Brand New Heavies got together with like. Kool G Rap. They got together with a.

bunch of different rappers. Um who else. is in there? God, it's like. there's there's a ton of different. people that they did these tracks with. So, they have like The Brand New Heavies. playing the music and like like Heavy. Rhyme Experience is the name of the. track. Starr and Main Source. Yeah, man. >> What year was this, bro? 92, I think. Wow. >> 92, yeah. >> Right, right. Cuz I remember that first. album. Oh my god, you got to listen to. some of this [ __ ]. >> by now in 92 was You know what happens. to me in 1992?

I'm on my own dick now. I don't listen. to nobody. I'm just Wu-Tang'd out trying. to. >> Oh, okay. No, it was I was trying to. make it. So, I'm like. Yeah, oh, I get it. >> But so, I missed it. Oh, yeah. >> missed a lot of things during my career, bro. I realized like I'm going. backwards. Like there was a point in my life, bro, I couldn't stand R&B. Really? >> I'm serious. It's like like like like. like if I'm driving. and R&B's on, I felt No, I was so. [ __ ] hip-hop, bro. Cuz you're so. concentrated.

>> Yeah, it was it was weird. Like I said. >> That makes sense, though. >> Yeah, it makes sense, but. >> Yeah, because you were on the grind. You. were really trying to make it happen. Now, you give me Now I play R&B, me and. my wife, we be dancing around the. [ __ ] house. It's. I mean, there was a point in time where. I was only into 90s hip-hop. Like 90s. hip-hop was my [ __ ]. >> Right. Cuz like that was when I was. young and I was on the road a lot and. that was like my getting fired up music. was like 90s hip-hop. But then I started expanding and then I.

got into like a lot of like old classic. rock and roll and. I just think. it's all dependent upon your mood, but. there's so much different [ __ ] that you. could listen to. Right. But this you got. to listen to some of this Heavy Rhyme. Experience. >> put that on my on my list right there. Play him that uh Kool G Rap death. threat. This is like one of my all So, in the green room we'll have to cut this. out of. of the podcast, unfortunately, because. we don't want to get dinged. But, at a. in the green room playlist, this is like.

one of my first beginning of the night. when the comedy show starts and we're in. the green room getting fired up, pouring. a couple of drinks, everybody's getting. fired up, someone's rolling a blunt. This is one of my favorite songs to. start the green the green room playlist. >> Hit me with it. This is Kool G Rap and the Brand New. Heavies. Okay. It's great and. the Gang Starr Hectic, that's another. one of my favorites. You know what's so. cool about it for me? So, I never heard. it, but it immediately like put me right. back in the Stapleton Projects, like.

right back. in that time of me like my cuz Kool G. Rap is Love that dude. So, it put me. right there. Thank you, y'all. [ __ ]. blocking, one of my all-time favorite. songs. Right, right. >> [laughter]. >> Uh Talk Like Sex, um. I mean, he's so many Ill Street Blues. >> Ill Street Blues is amazing. And Kool G. Rap, I just think in mainstream just. doesn't get the respect he deserves from. like the influence that he had in the. '90s. Yeah, I think that I think that. the artists we give it to him, but yeah, you're right, the the the public. >> Mainstream Yeah. People there's so many. people I I bring up Kool G Rap and.

they're like, "Who?" Right. >> like, "Oh, oh, sit down. Sit down, let. me play some [ __ ] for you." And it I. didn't never He told me this years later. that the G stood for genius. Ah. >> [laughter]. >> And he's a he's a [ __ ] genius, even. though we we got the jizzle the genius. and I Yeah. Kool G Rap is a is a genius, man. I was. blessed to um. I was blessed to do a couple of tracks. with him in my in my catalog. We. actually. >> Oh, nice. We actually um got a couple. that we did together and a couple I just. produced with like him and Inspectah. Deck and.

um and things of that nature. So, that's. one of the greatest blessings of of the. art is that I'm sure you do the same as. you know, whether you're doing comedy, whether you're doing your physicality, that you have people that you admired. and then all of a sudden you're there. your peers. >> You're collaborating, doing [ __ ] with. them. Yeah, no, it's very exciting. Just. being able to hang out with them, you. know. We did a. uh. we went to dinner with uh Quentin. Tarantino, Roger Avery, then they came. to the comedy show, and then we're all. hanging out in the green room. >> Right. And everyone's like, this is the.

[ __ ] coolest night of all time. We're. just chilling and hanging out with. Quentin Tarantino and Roger Avery at the. mothership green room. I ain't going to. beat that. Hard to beat, man. Everybody. the next day were like, did last night. really happen? Like that was so fun. [ __ ] when when um uh. when I this. Speaking of Quentin, when I um. had a cut that was um. you know, worthy to show him. uh. uh buddy Javit and my buddy Abazar. they uh.

so Javit kind of owns the the old Desi. Arnaz studio. Oh, wow. Um he's the guy. that started red cameras. So, and he has. this amazing screening room. And so he said, "Yo, um. you can screen it here. for Quentin.". I said, "All right, cool." So, we. finally got the date to do it. And I go there, and his plus one is is. Fincher. Oh, wow. >> Exactly. So, I'm just like, oh. >> That's crazy. >> Yeah, so yeah, so now like, okay, well, okay. Uh and it and it was and I played the.

film to them, and. it's once it was another great night. Uh. some great uh. What were we sipping on? We were sipping. on uh. some great scotch. Yeah, we had some. great scotch. I don't smoke weed like. that no more. So, you know, that's I Do you still. smoke weed? What happened when you. stopped? I just I I don't function good in public. with weed. >> [laughter]. >> Who does? Well. >> I Yeah, well. >> [laughter]. >> Okay. People think they do. Exactly. Well, I I don't want to see that photo.

I don't want to. I don't photo. Yeah, I don't want to be. be guy no more. It's like, if I'm home, also to be honest with you, if I smoke. weed, bro, I start doing kung fu, bro. Really? Yeah, I'm either going to sit quiet and. like be a total. >> Oh, you start a war. Yeah, and [ __ ] like, "Yo, what's this?". Yeah, exactly. I'll start doing [ __ ]. like that. You know what I mean? With a. [ __ ] suit on or some [ __ ]. >> Yeah. So, so. >> fun. Yeah, wow. >> [laughter]. >> You know, so I yeah, I kind of.

2015 was when I when I stopped. Really? Completely? >> Yeah. Maybe I mean, not yes, for completely, but then I said I will only smoke. with. with two or three people in the world. One of them is Quentin Tarantino. Um because we watch our kung fu movies, we're not going nowhere. [laughter]. I smoke a if I have some weed with him, I know that I'm in a, you know, no. photos is happening. You're not going to. see this the the the zongy rizza. Uh my. other brother I smoke with, I won't say.

his name cuz I don't know people know he. smoke. I think everybody knows he smoke, but I won't say his [ __ ] name. Is it um and I've only seen him. once a year, twice a year. You know what. I mean? Um. and that's really it. And even like I. haven't smoked a blunt with Method Man. in over 12 years, bro. Wow. >> And that's my. that's my that was my he's the king of. smoking anyway, but that was like my. But I just like I said, I just don't. like how uh. Yeah, it just doesn't fit my my my.

today's personality. So, I'm a sipper. now. Mhm. I just sip on some some uh not. no syrup. I'm going to eat the food. >> Okay. Yeah, yeah. Little scotch. >> Little scotch, little tequila, love. tequila, mezcal. Mhm. You know. Look, there's nothing wrong with all those. things. I think they're all tools, and I. think one of the things about tools is. you can misuse them. And I think there's. a lot of people that just live in the. cloud, and they just get high all the. time, and then they just feel like their. life is out of control, and then pure. abstinence becomes the only solution.

But it's really you just started abusing. the tool. I think marijuana is an. excellent tool for creativity. Mhm. And. the way I like it the most is writing. I. think it's it's the greatest thing ever. for writing. There's something that. happens with just not a lot, just a. little bit of weed. This all sudden, bing, ideas start sparking off in your. head that I go I don't think that these. ideas would exist without this stuff. That's one of the things that Carl Sagan. said. Mhm. Jamie, what was that famous. Carl Sagan quote on uh cannabis? But.

Carl Sagan, who's obviously like one of. the most famous astronomers of all time, he had uh and wrote that great movie. Contact, that great book Contact. He had. this. quote about cannabis that I always like. to say to people that want to say it's. for dummies. >> [laughter]. >> Cuz it's like, no, man, it's there's. something to it. You could look like a. dummy if you abuse it, just like you. could look like an idiot if you get so. drunk that you can't walk. >> Exactly.

>> It's the same thing, but a little bit, just a. just a little bit sometimes just fires. up the illegality of cannabis. outrageous, and a impediment to full. utilization of a drug which helps. produce the serenity and insight, sensitivity, and fellowship so. desperately needed in this increasingly. mad and dangerous world. That was one. quote, but there was a another quote. that he had about ideas that are. available through cannabis that aren't. available without it. Mhm. That his.

perception well and obviously here's. here's a guy that I mean, what better. way to utilize weed than to smoke a. little and stare at the [ __ ] vastness. of the cosmos and just try to. Well, >> open up your mind to the. >> That's that's exactly what I mean for. me, right? So so if I so it's only two. things going to happen for me. I'm going. to smoke. and I'm going to just be like even if. I'll be in here finding [ __ ]. constellations and. >> [laughter]. >> [ __ ]. You see what I mean? Yeah. >> Or kung fu. >> I'm doing a kung fu. That's those sound. like two good things. >> Yeah, I'm not knocking them, but it's.

definitely. with my schedule it doesn't Yeah, it. doesn't fit in. >> fit in. >> [laughter]. >> But there's the thing is like what is. life? Is life about schedule? Is life. about enjoying moments? And I think. there's there's something to be said for. enjoying moments and there's certain. things that will help enhance moments. And I think uh that's where cannabis. comes in into play. I think the problem. with it is the problem with. anything that human beings abuse, whether it's soda, chocolate, whatever,

alcohol, food. People abuse things. They. go too far with it. You don't use it. correctly. And I think it's also part of. the problem with it being illegal. One. of the things about alcohol being legal. is we understand what a dose is. If I. give you a shot of tequila and we both. clink glasses and we do a shot, we. understand the dose. That is one shot of. tequila. It's not confusing. Whereas. we all know weed, you know, you get a. hold of some of Snoop's weed or some. some people are just they're they're.

dealing with botanists that are on. another planet, man. >> Let me say one [clears throat] thing. about Snoop's weed one day. Well, when I. was smoking, I did an interview with. him. And uh. that's [snorts] when he had that GNC, he. had the G he had some some network that. he had. Mhm. And we was talking about my. movie and then I was going everything. was fine. Like then you know, he's he's rolling. it, you know, we're talking. Then he lit. that [ __ ] up. and passed that [ __ ] bro. I hit that [ __ ] hit it back, hit it. again.

Uh I'm getting the [ __ ] out of here. >> [laughter]. >> I I WAS GONE. YEAH, that's Joey Diaz's weed, too. Joey. Diaz got that same kind of weed. I I've. given it to some people and I'm like, "Careful, that's Joey Diaz's weed." And. and they get scared. Like, "Oh, Jesus.". >> Yeah, you got to go home and get it and. make you put a pillow get a pillow ready. cuz that [ __ ] is going to [ __ ] and he. could do it all day. I know, that's. what's crazy. >> Him and Method Man out of my. And I give Burna Boy in that category as. well. Those are the three.

most people that I've seen very. weed tolerant. Like like like like they. could be on the third one. and then you hit it and you're like, "What the [ __ ] yo? HOW THE [ __ ]. [laughter]. HOW THE [ __ ] ARE Y'ALL. ALL GOING like that?" They Going all day. long. And then when Snoop was in here, he just kept rolling blunts and I was. like, "How are you still awake? How how. do you how do you function?" But they're. so accustomed to it that their tolerance. is so high and that feeling of just.

being in the cloud all the time, they're. fine with it. Did you find that other. quote? There's multiple quotes. It came. He had an essay, so It was something. about ideas being available. Um that. aren't. That was the big quote. >> Yeah, it didn't say. uh. understand himself. It doesn't say that. in here. Mhm, that's okay. I feel me No. worries. I should have found I should. have had it ready. But the point is it's. like it's a tool and you could use any. tool correctly or you could use it and.

abuse it incorrectly. So, what's your. frequency of smoking? Like do you do you. smoke once a day, once a week? >> I just wish it was legal. If it was legal, then people. >> legal many places, isn't it? >> Yeah, but it's not federally legal. It's. just got changed to schedule three. So, schedule three is the same as Tylenol. with codeine. So, what does that mean? Does it mean that you have to get a. prescription for it? So, it doesn't carry the same. The crazy thing is it's completely legal. in California and it's generating tax.

revenue. It's completely legal in. Colorado, generating tax revenue. And. then people will always want to point to. the negative aspects of it, but like you. could you could have negative aspects. with everything else that's legal, too. Think about how many people die from. obesity every year, obesity-related. diseases. Let's put that into Perplexity. Put that. into our AI sponsor. What is How many. people die because of obesity-related. diseases every year? So, you're saying. you got. >> So, should we regulate food? Should we.

regulate the amount of food that people. are able to consume? Should we stop. people? Should we Should we make cake. and Ring Dings and Ho Hos? Should we. make that [ __ ] illegal? No. You have to. have some. personal responsibility and some. self-control and an understanding of. like what the ramifications are. What. What is the What are the dangers of. overeating or eating the wrong kinds of. food? That's the same with cannabis. It's the same with alcohol. If you think. that alcohol should be illegal, well, you're going to People are going to. drink it and then you're just going to.

empower organized crime like they did. during the Prohibition. Okay. How about this? World Health. Organization reports that at least 2.8. million people die each year as a result. of being overweight or obese. That's. [ __ ] crazy. >> bro. Globally, it's 3 to 5 million. people a year. >> Wait, so where's the 2.8 at? That's. here? I don't know. Right here is US. population. >> Okay, this Okay. >> US is here, so US It's 280,000.

to 325,000. per year. >> They knocked out opioids. Knocked it out. of the park. So, that So, we're we're. all worried about opioids and no one's. worried about pizza. >> [laughter]. >> Hey, hold on. >> But, that doesn't mean that pizza should. be illegal. And that's the thing. Especially in New York pizza, bro. That's the best pizza in the. Connecticut. >> [laughter]. >> New Haven. Uh Look, there's You just have to have an. understanding of what to do and not to. do. You know, don't eat pizza 24 hours a.

day every day. You'll die, right? >> Don't eat a pound of salt. You eat a. pound of salt, you'll be dead. Wasn't. there a documentary with a guy um I'm. not talking about. >> Supersize Me. Yeah, that's that guy. >> Yeah. What was he eating every day? He. was eating McDonald's. Yeah, all day. every day for every meal. >> And that was like 30 days before like. the Grim Reaper started knocking at the. door? Yeah, he wasn't doing well. He he he had all sorts of liver. problems. Didn't McDonald's just release. some subscription where you get like. it's like $52 a month and you could eat. as much as you want.

Holy [ __ ]. >> did that today. What's that look, Jerry? What's that. face? >> That doesn't make any sense. I know, it. doesn't make any sense. >> $52. >> I think they just did that today. I saw. it on my Google News alert this morning. Does that make sense? No, it doesn't make sense unless they're. limiting the amount of meals that you. can have in a day. But if you have a subscription, say if. you have a McDonald's subscription and. it's $52 a month and they. and that's all you eat. You could live off of $52 a month easy.

>> Wow, not according to that documentary. That's That's 2 months, you out of here. >> [laughter]. >> Well, what if you only eat their salads. and you only ate their beef patties. without any bread? You'd probably be better off. >> Be better off. Okay. >> be okay. But even their beef probably. has like fillers in it and [ __ ]. I'm still I'm still living a vegan. lifestyle. Still? Yeah. >> Yeah? What do you get mostly for your. protein? Mostly beans. Um I probably do consume a. little bit too much soy, I think, cuz I.

do eat tofu. Shout out to our friend CK. Hey, in the building. Oh yeah, he he. brought in Yeah. Hu Chao, that place. rules. Yes, he he he he he he he he he. he he he he he he he he he he he lunch. which we will eat after we finish this. Phenomenal Chinese restaurant here in. Austin. Phenomenal. You know what he got. that that I realized What? >> he has those Sichuan peppers. Oh, yeah. That [ __ ] is crack, bro. >> They kick. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, they kick. They make my my bald. head sweat. >> Yes, that's it. It start dripping. Yeah, that's what I. >> Dripping down to my eyebrows. Exactly.

I'm sorry, what were we looking up. again, Jamie? >> It's McDonald's unlimited plan. I think. they made it up. Is Is fake? Well, I'm. just. the only places that it pops up are a. some one Instagram post. It was in my Google news feed. >> it. People are reporting it, but it seems to. be only based off of a photo, which is. most likely. >> [laughter]. >> AI. Oh, yeah, 54 bucks a month. >> This photo is going around, but there's. there's no links to McDonald's isn't. saying it. There's no like press release.

about it. >> Interesting. Oh, cuz so it's [ __ ]. It's [ __ ] Cuz I was thinking like. how could they afford Now, what else I. would say, they do do test stuff, and it. is claiming it's a pilot program being. tested somewhere. So, potentially. they're trying something out somewhere, but I again I don't see any. reporting of it. >> Unlimited meals is a weird If you're. going to limit it, you can't say. unlimited because if you don't If you If. it's unlimited, then you could just feed. your whole family for $54 a month. Right.

>> You go You go there, take one, hey, then. go back in, you don't get another one. >> Yeah, yeah. Well, you could just say. unlimited. I like to eat seven Big Macs. Give me seven Big Macs, seven orders of. fries, seven sodas, and then you're. feeding everybody for $54 a month. That's crazy. Does McDonald's own. Chipotle? I don't know. Do they own Chipotle? >> Chipotle. I'm bringing up Chipotle. because I got Chipotle. I did a campaign. with them, and they gave me a card. Life long card. I can eat at Chipotle. for free for the rest of my life.

>> Really? And. >> That's part of the campaign? No, this was like the gift. >> For you, yeah. I didn't even know that. that was a thing. >> And and and I could and I could have 10. people. with 24-hour notice, and I think it's I could do a catered. event at least once a month. Wow. >> For the rest of my life. That's a pretty. good deal. That is a real thing. Really? >> That's a like a celebrity gold card. THING THEY OFFER. OH, NICE. their it through different ways. Like. Travis Barker has one here. Interesting.

one. Well, Travis is a He's a vegan, too. >> Yeah, I'm a vegan, too. So, he's eating. the just the bean burritos and stuff? Well, they have sofritos. They got some. [ __ ] called sofrito. What is that? I hope there's no chicken in there. No, [laughter] I I don't think it's no. chicken. I think it's like uh. It's like a vegan vegan meat. So, most. of your animal pro or most of your. protein is from what? Is it from tofu, beans? >> I love chickpeas, lentils. I'm crazy for.

lentils. Um pea protein is really good. >> Pea protein Hemp protein's really good. Hemp is good. Hemp protein is uh I think. it's one of the few plant-based proteins. that contains all the amino acids. And. it's very bioavailable, too. Pumpkin seeds, bro. Pumpkin seeds? Pumpkin seeds. >> Really? Yeah. Look up pumpkin seeds, bro. Pumpkin seeds probably have the. most best protein. Really? I keep. I. >> They taste good, too. I keep them in my. car, bro. >> roasted? Yeah. Roasted pumpkin seeds.

Trust me, every time I get in the whip. I got pumpkin seeds. Wow. What does it. say about the. Oh, and. >> May reduce your risk of cancer and. improve bowel and prostate health. Pumpkin seeds, bro. That's it. >> Rich in protein, fiber, unsaturated. fats, and must-have minerals. Pepitas. are a great, healthy snacking option. All right. Yeah, pumpkin seeds are. delicious. Yeah, so you get those and. you get some chickpeas. >> weird that people when they make like.

their [ __ ] jack-o'-lanterns, they. scoop that [ __ ] out and throw it away? Yeah. Give them to me. That's like the. most the healthiest part of the pumpkin. That's weird. It's weird what we throw away. Like, we're just so used to like waste. So used to like having an abundance of. food that we're not concentrating on. this part of the plant that has the most. protein right in the plant, probably the. most nutritious part of the pumpkin. Wow. You know, my buddy was here yesterday. He uh. They don't throw away too much of that.

uh too much of that meat for that Texas. barbecue you guys. No, they don't [ __ ] around there. >> Yo, yo, you. There was a. a 15-minute wait line around the corner, 200 people. Where were you at? Which. place? >> Um it was I don't know the name of it. Terry Black's? I don't know cuz I just drove at my man. I was over there. >> He said, you know, he can't come out to. Texas and not get some Texas barbecue, you know what I mean? I'm going to get. You know what I'm going to do? You know. what I mean? Hell, they have some good. beans and macaroni [laughter]. and just a bunch of different stuff that.

you can get there, potato salad. >> Yeah. Yeah, well, potato salad I got to watch. Oh, that's right. It's got mayonnaise. and milk and eggs. Yeah, you've been on You've been a vegan. for a lot since the '90s, right? Yeah. Well, no. >> I started vegetarian. uh in the '90s and then by the time I. got to 2000, I started like. >> You don't [ __ ] with eggs at all? Nothing? >> No, I got rid of the eggs. >> No? Yeah. I don't know. The eggs. What got me off the [ __ ] eggs, bro? I think my personality got me off the. eggs. [laughter].

Why is that? I don't know. So, you know, it's like like like I'm. I'm like what's the word? I could be. scornful. Is that the word? Like when. you like. like. like I don't know. Like I like I'm like. I. like a Felix Unger type of [ __ ] you. know? You ever watch Felix Unger like. Odd Couple? Yeah, like he don't want. pits in his orange juice or something. So, eggs like like one day it's just. it's just it's just the slime of the. egg. It's just. >> Why don't you just cook it? Yeah, but it didn't got that little.

white [ __ ] in it, bro. I'm just [laughter] saying. It's so good. for you. And if you have your own. chickens, like I have my own chickens, eggs are karma-free protein. They're. like pets that give you free protein. Right, right. Because they're they. they're laying an egg that will never be. a chicken cuz it's not fertilized. Exactly. So, it's It's free protein and. they lay them every day basically or. close to it and you feed them and they. run around the backyard and they pick. bugs and grass and.

>> Right. What do you feed them? Chicken food. You know, you buy chicken. feed and we also feed them some table. scraps and vegetables and and different. things, but they're carnivores, man, which is really wild. Like you see them. eat a mouse, it's crazy. >> They tear mice. You never seen a chicken. eat a mouse? I've never seen a chicken. eat Chickens are straight up dinosaurs. There's some great videos of chickens. around a cat and a cat's playing with a. mouse and the chicken just runs up on. the cat and steals the mouse from him. and tears it apart. >> I didn't see that, yeah. I fed a chicken.

that I well. it one chicken stole the mouse, but this. is this is what [laughter] happened. So, uh. in my house in California, we used to. have a wrought iron fence and we. replaced it with a glass fence. Unfortunately, hawks couldn't tell that. it was a glass fence and we lost a few. hawks. They slammed into it headfirst. and got KO'd and some of them We lost. like two hawks died. It was really sad. But one of them survived and my family. my wife and my daughters took the hawk. and put it in like a large cardboard.

box. It couldn't fly and they had to. feed it over the weekend because the. rescue shelter couldn't take it over the. weekend. We had to bring it in on. Monday. And so, they go, "Well, what are. hawks? How do you feed it?" We went to. the store and uh the the pet store and. the pet food store had these things. called pinkies and what they are is like. little baby mice. Mhm. And so, you put these little baby mice. in with the hawk and the hawk ate most. of them, but one of them lived. One of. them the hawk didn't eat it. >> The hawk had had enough had enough Yeah. pinkies. It ate enough. So, my daughters.

are like, "Well, we want to keep that. one alive." I'm like, "It's not going to. live. It doesn't have the milk. It. doesn't have its mother. It hasn't been. weaned. It's going to die." And I said, "Let me just feed it to the chickens." I. didn't even know if they're going to eat. it. I didn't know what was going to. happen. I put that little mouse down in. the cage and that chicken just ran up. and snatched it and they all stole it. away. So watch this cat. This cat's. [ __ ] with this mouse. The cats you. think cats are ruthless and they are. >> playing with this [ __ ]. >> playing with it. He wants to watch it. hop away and then the chicken gets. annoyed after a while and the chicken's.

like, "Give me that [ __ ] bitch.". And when the chicken runs up on the. mouse. Wait, watch this. Instantaneously. As. soon as the chicken realizes this Look, she's like, "Give me that [ __ ] bitch.". >> [laughter]. >> Holy [ __ ] Chickens aren't into playing. with things at all. They just rip it. apart. Yeah, this is this is dinner. Yeah, just shaking it and mangling it. >> But they were all chasing each other. around the chicken coop where this one. chicken had the mouse in its mouth and. they were all trying to steal it from. her mouth. They're all Oh, they wanted. it more than anything. Cuz they don't.

act like that with chicken food at all. >> Right, right. They want some They wanted. some meat, bro. Yeah, or you dried worms. or that's one of them like worm meal. You buy these like boxes of dried and. you shake it and they come running and. you like leave that out for them. They. love that. So okay, so now your chickens. you got your own How many? I have 15 15. chickens. >> So you getting what? Two How many like A. bunch of eggs. Like probably at least 10. eggs every day. Wow. >> And so cuz they don't always lay them. every day, but it's free protein and.

it's healthy for you. You know exactly. where it came from. There's no hormones, no pesticides, no herbicides. >> No nothing. Let me let me interrupt our. podcast for a moment. >> Okay. >> This is the RZA. I'm sitting here with Joe Rogan. I have. a new film coming out May 1st. >> [laughter]. >> It's called One Spoon of Chocolate. Starring Shameik Moore and Paris. Jackson. Produced by Quentin Tarantino. In theaters everywhere May 1st. >> only a couple days from now. Today is. the 27th, so it's this Friday. May 1st. >> There it is. One Spoon of Chocolate.

Dun dun dun. Because one spoon of. chocolate can do what? Change a whole. glass of milk. >> Change the whole glass of milk. >> [laughter]. >> Um but anyway, eggs is good for you. They're really good for you. Healthy and. karma free. No, no, only thing. is only thing that. I don't complain about as a vegan. and I don't cook with it or use it, but. if some butter slipped on my [ __ ] Mhm. I'm not going to flip out. Yeah, you. shouldn't because it's just milk that.

comes out of a cow. It doesn't, you. know, especially if you get it from an. organic farm. It's no big deal. Right. So, that's the only That's So, that's. the only thing that I you know, I don't. you know, I don't I I use all that. plant-based butter and they got this. thing called. uh for now Country Crock got uh. plant-based avocado oil butter. Really? Yeah. How the [ __ ] do they make that? That's the problem with all that stuff. that's like. fake meat and fake this is that it's. really processed. Right. You know, I.

think if you want to eat vegetables and. vegetarian diet, like the way to do is. the way the Indians do it. I just like. Indian food from India. Oh, oh, amazing. Indian vegetarian food. I stay in an. Indian restaurant. Oh, so good, so spicy. and so delicious and they've been. cooking just vegetarian dishes for Yeah. probably thousands of years. >> Cleans you right out, too. Oh, that's. true. Yeah. It opens up the gates. >> Bam-A-Lama. >> Let's go. >> Let's go, baby.

>> [laughter]. >> Don't Don't have a flight. Exactly. If you do get a seat in the. back. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's. but it's There was a place that I used. to live near near my old house in. California that was in an Indian. neighborhood and there was this Indian. restaurant. It was like a. you know, like a cafeteria style where. you just go and put I don't even know. what the [ __ ] the names of these things. were. They had photos of whatever it was. Yeah. and it was all in Indian and I. would just point and it was all everyone. who ate there was Indian. Right. It was.

very few regular I mean, no white. people, no African-Americans. It was all. Indians. >> that? Wait, I feel like I might have. [ __ ] been In the valley. In the. valley. In the valley. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's it's not a restaurant. >> No, it's like a store and in the back of. the store You've been to that place. Yeah, and you could buy some [ __ ]. spices of your own. Yeah, bro. God, I wish I remember the name of the. place cuz the spices were awesome, too. It had It was a great place and in the. back they had this like cafeteria style. It was fun It was all Indian people. Yep, yep. >> Phenomenal. Phenomenal restaurant.

>> I'm the kind of guy that do that, too. I. like I'll go to the Asian market and. [ __ ] I'll go [ __ ] I'll go I know that. I'm getting a bunch of the good [ __ ]. Oh, that's it. India Sweets and Spices. Damn, James, he's a wizard. Nice. Where. is that joint? It's Canoga Park. That's. it. Canoga Park. That's exactly it. That's the spot. That's not far from our. our old office. Oh, that's real close to where my old. studio was, too. And and um my I was on. my I still got the same office though, right over there. Yo, bro. Your old studio, right? You know what.

happened to it, right? No. Bro, that. whole [ __ ] they tore that [ __ ] down. >> They did? It's now the LA Rams training. facility. You You remember that AMC? Yeah. Bro. Really? Tore it down, bro. They're. building some other [ __ ] there. >> Wow. >> That's crazy. That is crazy. Cuz back. That's what the fans don't know. I could. I could see Joe's office from my window. or his studio from my window back in. those back in those days and [ __ ] Wow. >> But now all that is the LA Rams training.

facility. So, I watch the Rams train and. [ __ ] from. Well, that's crazy. Yeah, right? That. neighborhood's very interesting. There's. a lot of cool stuff. There's a. phenomenal Mexican spot down there. What. is it called? The Big Burrito? That's. what it's called, right? I think that's it. There's a this. phenomenal Mexican joint and you go in. there it's all like Mexican soap operas. playing. Everybody speaks Spanish. No No one there is speaking English and. the food is sensational. Yeah, Big.

Burrito. El Big Burrito. El Big Burrito. That place [ __ ] rules. I when I lived. there, I didn't tell people about it cuz. I didn't want to blow up the spot. I. wanted to be able to go in there. >> Right, right. I would never bring it up. on the podcast and they've reached out. to me thanking me because we we brought. it up a few times, but that place. [ __ ] rules. You want to get like a. legit burrito, legit quesadilla, legit. tacos, like lengua tacos, like cow. tongue. I know you don't eat meat, but.

if you did, and even their burri- their. bean burritos are [ __ ] phenomenal. It's just like real legit spicy Mexican. food. >> Well, to me, it's all about the sauce. If If If you got good salsa Mhm. You. know what I mean? Yeah, oh that place is. so good. That That's I mean, there's. those places that you find in LA that. are real hard to find in Texas. Texas, you get a lot of Tex-Mex, you know, whereas in LA, you get. straight Mexican, like real authentic. >> talk about that for a moment cuz I I. actually thought about that cuz New York.

you you you I mean, now it's okay, but. New York we. for years, bro, we didn't have good. Mexican food, bro. Do you now? Yeah, cuz now it's been more some more. brothers come came in and there's. there's some there's some pocket. communities, but trust me, in New York, bro, for year- I didn't I thought I was. eating Mexican food until I went to. California. Yeah. >> Then I was like, "Okay, now I know I. >> San Diego has some of the absolute best. Mexican food in the world. But But I I find Texas and.

uh New Mexico, like I find this part of. the country as well having. having uh. a lot of good flavors, but I'm. interested, how do you like if you were. to say from your travels. the best Mexican food, is it California? Is it the Midwest? W- What do What do. What do you say? >> Well, there's really good Mexican food. in Texas, but you got to search seek it. out. Whereas there's a lot of Tex-Mex. here, which is also really good, but you. could tell it's not straight Mexican.

You know what I mean? It's like a. fusion. And in California, you don't. have any of that. In California, it's. just Mexican, and there's so many great. Mexican restaurants in California. San Diego was filled with them, but LA. is filled with them, too. But it's spots. like that, like the big burrito. When. you go to [snorts] a place like that, you walk in, you're like, "Oh my god, I'm home." Cuz it's [laughter] like you. the smells, and then you see the Spanish. soap operas playing. Right, right, right. Okay. This is real. Yeah, I was driving down the street. last night and [ __ ] and.

I just found this really funny, right? So, I'm driving down the street. I mean, I'm not driving personally. I don't. drive, but the car my car. >> You don't drive at all? I don't drive. I've been driving since 2012. I haven't. driven a car. >> How come? I just I just. I let it go. You know what happened, bro? What happened? I was in China. Um You don't want to drive in China. Well, I got to be honest. Like, we was doing a. film there, and every time every morning that they I. would go to work, it all it almost like every day it.

almost happened. Like, it almost was like that's that's. >> Almost car accident. >> Yeah. Every day, bro. >> Yeah. That's what I'm saying. So, and. even even even even like when my brother. Russell Crowe, like we'll get to set in. the morning, I love that dude. and you. know he'll say the same thing like, "Yo, Bobby." Like, "Shoo." I said, "Yeah, bro.". >> [laughter]. >> "We made it.". Right? But so so then when I came home, I just stopped driving, bro. You just. didn't want to be a part of it anymore?

Nope. I haven't drove since since then. Have you ever [ __ ] with any of those. Waymos? You ever gotten in any of those. things? >> No. No. No. No. But I do have a Tesla. that'll drive me. Have you did it? >> Yeah. I've had it drive me all the way. home. Yeah? It's crazy. Yeah. >> How do you feel though? How do you Un-. uncomfortable. I don't like it. I like. driving. I do I do I enjoy driving, but. with my Tesla, I'll put an address, like. say if I want to go to a restaurant or. something like that, and go do do, and. it'll drive me. It'll stop at stop signs.

and stop lights. It'll change lanes if. there's anything in the way. It it hits. the blinkers to change lanes. It turns. It does everything. Right. I mean, it. literally can drive you from point A to. Do you ever [ __ ] with it, Jamie? Do you. ever use it? I just found out through. the update that like I didn't I'm not I. haven't been using full self-driving. I've been using whatever was right. before that. Oh. >> Which to me I thought was the exact. same. It drives itself, too. What's the difference? I don't know. Cuz. I It said that you're like to me it gave.

me an option to turn it on. Oh. >> I was like, I thought I was what? Hold. on. Then what [laughter] what am I doing. then? Oh, that's weird. >> still drives itself. I don't remember. cuz I turned I got my It's a part of a. subscription, right? Isn't it? That's. when I got I was like, wait, I thought I. had it. Hold on. >> Yeah. What What what Whatever Whatever's. been doing Whatever it is, I definitely. have it cuz I've been using it. A part. of a subscription, you mean it ain't. automatic? I think so. I think you pay. more for it. I'm not sure. I don't want. to talk out of turn. That's why I also. didn't understand it, either, but yeah, I think so. I think you pay for it.

because I think it's more complex. It's. using a bunch of different. I'm making things up. I don't know. But. But I do know it works. If you press it. it goes do do. I saw Waymo on the way. here to you. Mhm. And it was right. beside us. I looked in there. and I was like, yo, bro, why have a steering wheel with the old. school [ __ ] uh. With a gear changer? >> Yeah. If nobody going to drive this [ __ ]. >> Well, in case it breaks. And then if if. somehow there there maybe there's an.

override where you could just drive it. Yeah, but still. that's the grandma thing, bro. The. shifter on the column? >> Yeah. It's like, [laughter] this is we in the. future. It shouldn't be no steering wheel like. that. >> My Cadillac has that. My Cadillac shifts. on the on the column like that. >> That's for the what? An Escalade? Yeah, it does it? >> Putting drive like that. >> [ __ ] is right here now. Uh-uh. I got my [ __ ] right here, bro. >> Pretty sure. Right? >> That might be for your lights and [ __ ]. >> No, I'm pretty sure. Okay. >> I mean, I have a bunch of cars,

>> drive a stick. I don't even know how to. drive. We're going to put a um a studio. in at the racetrack at Circuit of the. Americas. I'm going to take you around the. racetrack. I'm going to put you in the. car, you're going to drive around the. racetrack. >> Oh, wait, I don't want to drive I don't. know how to drive. I think for the. Escalade Yeah, that's that's the [ __ ]. Not the new one. >> Yeah, it says 20 23. No, 2026. Escalade. uh V. Escalade. gear shift Yeah, but it doesn't That's.

not how it works. I'm 90% sure There it is, right there, on the column. See it? Oh, yeah, I see. it. >> That's how it is. That's what mine looks. like. Okay. >> See that little They put it back up. there. >> Yeah, they put it back up there because. it clears all the room on your console. >> Right, for the cops and all that. >> that's where mine is. I love that thing. >> Well, so anyway, I'm coming Well, I'm in. a Escalade yesterday, right? I don't. know what the gear shift was at. But I. got the window down getting some of this. beautiful uh Austin air.

and a. a truck drives up beside me. uh playing a Spanish song. He's blasting. this [ __ ] Din din din din. This [ __ ]. sound cool like a [ __ ] right? I'm like, yo, what is this [ __ ] So, I. Shazam it. >> [laughter]. >> Right? So, anyway, I Shazam it and then. I get the song, right? Right? And then I start playing it in my car. And the truck keeps going on, but then. we you know, we're still driving slow. Then I I can see the car. beside me, they Shazam'd it. You.

[laughter] know what I mean? I was like, wait a minute, that's that's. that doesn't happen. I mean, that's what. we need again. Yeah. >> Like where. like somebody's just playing some. [ __ ] music. You never heard the song. before. You like it. Yes. >> You got it. You know what I mean? And. so, I got. >> Shazam. I got two Spanish songs now in. my in my uh in my joint that um is part. of my. my new playlist, yo. They just got from. listening to people's cars.

>> by like, "Yo, hold on. That [ __ ] sound. dope." Yo, >> Yeah, that's a new thing, right? Because. we don't have radio as much anymore. There's not a lot of people listening to. the radio. A lot of times you're getting. new songs like. often times like I'll be at dinner. someplace and they'll be playing music. I'll go, "Ooh, what is this?". >> Right. >> And I'll put my phone up in the air and. try to catch it, you know? >> That's dope that That's one of the. greatest things about technology to me. because. is is that ability to know. Mhm. You. know, like you can know now if you want. to know. You. You don't got to wait to know. You like,

"You know what, motherfucker?". Like everything we Every Every time you. get a thought here that we're not too. sure about, we could hit He could hit. that button Exactly. >> us a reference, you know? I know. I. would sometimes we leave a podcast and. I'm like, "Maybe we should have looked. that one up cuz it turns out that shit's. not true.". Well, [laughter]. I have I have beaten Google a few times. now. You've won? You beat Google? Yeah. >> I've beat them a lot. Well, Google's a. little deceptive, I think. But if you. use AI, like we use Perplexity, it. searches for the whole internet. It.

doesn't just, you know, use whatever. Google The problem with Google not It's. not not that it's a problem, but it's. These are curated searches. So, like. like say like Here's a perfect example. Um say if you want to find a Mexican. restaurant, right? And you use Google. What Google's going to do is some people. are paying so that their restaurant gets. to the top of the search list. That's a little bit of a problem because. that might not be the best restaurant.

That might just be a restaurant that. paid Google. Whereas if you go to like. Perplexity and say in terms of like. restaurant critics, what is the favorite authentic authentic. Mexican restaurant in Austin? And it'll. tell you. Right. >> It'll say these people believe that this. is it. And there's no curation yet. >> Right. I mean what my wife is actually. we were talking about this today. Like. one day they're going to [ __ ] that up, too. And people going to pay to get that.

but right now they haven't done that. So. right now you could find spots like cool. spots that haven't you know with no. curation. Exactly. Let's let's let's. let's do a test real quick. >> Okay. Okay. So there's 196,940,000. square miles on the planet, right? Woah. There's 63,360. uh. inches, right? In um in a mile cuz. there's 5,280 ft in a mile. So I'm going.

to start over. There's 196,940,000. 940,000. square miles in the country. in the. planet on the planet. >> Okay. For 1 mile there's 5,280 ft. Okay. And. of course there's 12 inches in a feet, so you multiply that that by 12 you'll. get the 63,360. inches. I want Perplexity. to tell me. how many square inches on the planet.

Ooh. Let's see what you get. Boy, that number's got to be a bunch of. nanas. That I I guarantee you we're going to. look at a long [ __ ] number. Lot of. zeros. That's a good question. That is a good question. Dun dun dun. >> [laughter]. >> Does it even have an answer? Not so far. It's probably confused. It's like hold. on, what the [ __ ] are you talking about? Are you perplex to me? >> are you doing? >> [laughter].

>> We perplexed Perplexity. Yeah, okay there. There you go. Okay. >> correctly the first time I typed it in. 8 * 10 ^ 17 sq in on Earth's surface. Um, what does that look like in a raw. number? Ask it what it looks like in a. raw number. So, 8 with 17. 17 zeros? Pretty much. 10 to the 17th? That's what that is, 17 zeros? So, basically it took it took.

>> the 63360. and they squared it. Uh-huh. And that's. how they got to there. Wow. But it didn't give us no [ __ ]. uh, a direct answer, right? Well, it. did, but it it did it with 10 to the. 17th. >> so let's do this now. Type that out. >> Type that number out and divide it by. four. Okay, let's see. Type it out. I'm. going to see what this looks like. This must look bananas. WHOA!

>> [laughter]. >> AND NOW DIVIDE it by four. But before. you do that, can you ask it how would. you say that? That's how I I was trying to figure it. out. >> Like it's not a trillion, it's not a. quadrillion. Like what is that? Quin-. it's a quintillion. Is it a quintillion? This is. billion, right? Yeah. >> This is trillion. So, it's a quadrillion? Wait, no. How Say. >> 15 That's sorry. Just say Ask it how. would you say that, please.

How would you say that? 800 quadrillion sq in. Wow. Remember when you were a kid, you'd. think that was a fake word? Yeah. Bro, I. want a quadrillion money. >> [laughter]. >> Would you believe that the Earth weighs. the atmosphere weighs 15 quintillion. tons? Let's see Let's see if I'm saying? >> atmosphere? Yeah, just the atmosphere.

Cuz the planet. >> gases? >> The planet Earth weighs 6 sextillion. Kanye said the wildest [ __ ] on my. podcast once. He goes, "How much does. the Earth cost?". Mhm. >> [clears throat]. >> Right? And at the time I was like, "What?" And then I thought about it. I. was like, "Oh [ __ ] like property is. valuable. You can own property.". >> Right. Right? Like everybody kind of. everything is owned. Like how much is. the Earth? That's a big That's a. uh. Well, you could get the number there, too, because well, if you count the.

minerals. Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you got a whole 'nother hustle. >> And then there's the ocean. >> in the ocean. >> The ocean. >> And the fish. Yeah. >> Right. And then all the animals. Wow. Yeah. >> And then and then it has to appreciate. day by day. >> [laughter]. >> Right. What I put that in the. perplexity. If you were going to sell. the Earth, how much would it be worth? Ooh. Including everything on it. That's a mind [ __ ] half. Economists usually estimate the world's.

real estate, all land plus the buildings. on it, a few hundred trillion US. dollars, not counting oceans, polar ice, or unowned space. That sounds like a. bargain. Yeah. A few hundred trillion? That's it? Nah. Okay, let's see. >> let's ask, "What is the worth of the. Earth, all its property, all its minerals, animals, and objects?". That's a crazy question.

That's a crazy question. >> Yeah, it's a good one, though. >> Yeah, everything on Earth, every watch, every diamond ring, every hat. Like $1. >> Every piece of art. [laughter]. Well, I mean, I I the question I typed. in was property and land. So, you should. add. >> What is the value animals to it? >> of everything on Earth? >> [laughter]. >> Every. >> Like what you said it top, Every. electronic. value of everything on Earth including.

including animals, minerals, property, and objects. Oh, boy. I wonder how it's going to figure this. out. I bet it will. It's got It's going to. look off of. >> It's going to freak out. It's going to. blow a gasket. >> figuring it out. It's. >> Yeah, he's just giving you something. There's no precise number. Oh, it's. somewhere in the quadrillions to. sextillions. of US dollars depending on what you.

count and how you value it. >> plausible attempts to add it up. Right. There's no single agreed-upon price tag. for everything on Earth, but this is the. answer to Kanye's question. But you know what though? Now. Look at that. No, hold on. We just. learned something there. It said quadrillion to what? Sextillions. Now ask how much does the. planet Earth weigh? >> Yeah, that's why I mean I had already. did that, but we we had we've passed it. before I could show you. Atmosphere weighs quintillion 12. quintillion pounds Yeah. in total. Yeah,

I said 15, so I was off. Okay, I forgot. that number. But ask how much does the. planet Earth weigh? Whoa. How much does the entire Earth weigh? Let's guess. But no, not No, no, don't do the. atmosphere. We just trying to get the. value. I want to see if I want to see if it. gives you I mean the atmosphere should.

already be included. All right? I think. it That's why I think it won't include. it. >> [laughter]. >> So basically What is that word? What is. that in a word? Ask that what that is. That 13 Yeah, tell him put it put that. put it in pounds, not kilograms. Cuz. that's not even seven, that's eight. What does that mean? Right, but what does that Ask it to say. that. Can you say that?

Yeah, what does it mean? Well, how do. you say it? septillion. 13 septillion pounds. That doesn't sound impressive. No. >> [laughter]. >> It doesn't. It sounds like a couple lizards. But you. know, you know, I believe it's wrong, bro. Why? Because when you take the square miles. the circumference right? And you. multiply the There's a formula to get. that weight. It doesn't come out to.

that. What does it come out to? six. sextillion six followed by 21 zeros. This is more. This is three more zeros on top of that. Yeah, but it it sounds good. But if you take the formula. of of of of a sphere of the mass. Mhm. Like this this number is closer. But does it take into account the. density of the inner Earth?

Because I think that's probably where a. lot of the weight is coming from, right? The density of the inner Earth is. immense. Yeah, I mean. >> compressed Yeah, it's compressed energy. core if it's hollow. >> [laughter]. >> It could be hollow. >> If it's hollow. Okay, hold on. I think. we got to take a. a sponsor break. This is the result of live on the Joe. Rogan podcast, Joe Rogan experience. I. have a new movie coming out. May 1st. >> May 1st, it's called One Spoon of. Chocolate starring Shameik Moore. Paris Jackson, Blair Underwood It.

follows a ex-military convict who comes. home and trying to find a better life. for himself ends up in a small town. where everything goes [ __ ] bananas. in theaters everywhere, May 1st. When is. it going to be available on streaming? I don't know. Soon, right? How do you usually do that? Well, to be honest, I'm like um Like. Iron Fist was what year was that out? That was 2011, 2012. >> And it was a different atmosphere back. then, right? Pre-COVID, COVID changed a.

lot of like movie-going habits, right? >> yeah. I want the movie-going experience to. come back, though. Uh yeah, I do, too. Yeah. I mean, there's something about. going to see a great movie with a bunch. of people. That's a real experience. >> Yeah, I I I think I. I I'm so much I mean. my my art, my career is based on. sneaking into a [ __ ] movie theater. and watching three kung fu movies. So. >> So, I'm I'm a big into cinema. I think. what we did So so So this So this. particular film is actually coming.

through my own distribution company. called 36 Cinema. And I think we did a deal with the. theaters that they can have at least 30. days. A lot of people were doing 17 days. in the theaters or 21 days. Mhm. Uh and. cinema is suffering because of that. because why would I go to the theater if. I got it at home? You know what I mean? And I And home is. of course. a great place to watch a movie, but when. you're making a movie. right? You're making it for the theater. We haven't. TV is made for home, but cinema is made.

for cinema. Like we haven't um. What can I say? Like the sound, the. color, the framing. Like I use. anamorphic lenses. What does that mean? It anamorphic, like the lenses of the. '50s where you [ __ ] get this whole. [ __ ] scope. You know what I mean? And. so. Yeah, you can watch it on your phone. >> What is the difference with an. anamorphic lens and a regular lens? A. regular lens would be uh the way it the. way it the way it bends the light in all. reality. So so like you could have like. uh 16.9.

Okay. See, that's so that's most lenses. are are spherical now. That's that, right? Which is cool. Right? But look at anamorphic. It's way it's way it's the way it. controls the light where the subject is. happening. And so it kind of gives you. more of a cinematic feel. Well, your. focus is certainly like a little more. blurry in the background. Yep. Yeah, okay. And it kind of it it's way it's. compressing that light differently. And so you with this lens, do you do.

everything on film or is it digital? I. actually shot this on digital. Um so yeah, so I mean I'm in the digital. age. So I did shoot digital, but I did. um we did make 35 mm prints of the. movie. Oh. >> So if you were So if you in California. and you would go to the theater called. the Vista. Have you ever been to the. Vista? >> No. Shh. Cool theater. Where's that? I. think it's in Los Feliz or some [ __ ]. like that. >> Okay. I'm bad at my Hollywood neighborhoods. I'm like I'm still a New Yorker.

>> Right. I get it. >> But um the Vista theater will show the. film on 35 mm for like 2 weeks. It'll be. there starting May 1st. Oh, that's cool. >> see it yeah, if you want to see and 35. mm with Oh, there you go. The Vista. I. love this guy. Hey Jamie, you Jamie's. the best. >> Yeah, he's he's he's he's trigger finger. is a [ __ ]. >> though. Well, he's psychic. So he knows. what you're talking about before. Exactly. He's like the Vista theater. The. Yeah. Um. So that's the Vista. So that So what is. the difference like the way it looks to.

you when you see it on 35 mm versus. digital? Well, it's I think the 35 mm kind of it it. makes the colors look more richer and. darker. Like kind of how how the '70s films. looked and even up to the '80s. Um the. digital one that cuz I've watched I've. watched my film on both formats. The. digital one is more brighter and. actually more familiar now to us. Right. We're we're accustomed to it. >> to it. Um but when we I played it 30 on April. 22nd I had a In fact, I'm going to talk.

about that a little bit, if you don't. mind. But, on April 22nd, we had our. premiere in California. on 35 mm. And it was my first time. seeing it on 35 mm. You know what I. mean? So, and it felt. it felt very nostalgic. I felt like I. was back It felt like a movie. only. Mhm. Like I mean not like not not. like a movie and a TV show or a movie. and it felt only like a movie. The only. a movie experience, the flickering.

Uh when you when you you know, when. you're doing 35 mm, you need. uh you know, a real camera. Right. >> And so, the light is going from this. camera from this one. Then they got to. switch the reel from this from this and. it's like it's a certain thing that's. happening a certain pacing a certain. grand granular thing that's happening. that for me for my film, it felt almost. like an honor to watch it like that. Oh, that's cool. Um I want to get make a. make a uh. So, check this out, bro. So, we talked about this last time I.

said, but April 22nd, right? That was the day. that I was acquitted. from a crime. and. started my life over. I was facing 8. years. April 22nd, that's back in 1992. Okay? As you can see, a year later, I'm a platinum producer. But, before. that, I was heading to hell. April 22nd,

serendipitously, is the day that my film premieres on 35. mm. and. the at the Vista Theater in Hollywood, April 22nd. >> Wow. But, you seen the opening of the film as. well. So, when my character gets out of jail, he marks on the calendar the day he gets. out, April 22nd. Mhm. It's special, bro. This is a. special film. It's [laughter] special It's for my. life, I'm saying. For me, it's like. >> And it's And it And it was my my buddy.

Shavo from System of a Down birthday. We. We We We actually celebrate April 22nd. every year because it wasn't my. birthday, but it was the birth of the. RZA because before that I was known as. Prince Rakim. But after that. acquitting and my mother telling me, you. know, you got a second chance. I was. like. exit Prince Rakim into the RZA. Nice. [clears throat] That's amazing. >> Yeah. So, when you were talking about the. streaming thing, so do you. is that something that's negotiated.

beforehand? Like it'll be in the. theaters for X amount of time or do you. once it's in the theater, do you then. like depending on how well it does in. the theater, is that how you negotiate a. streaming deal or how does that work? No, it works No, it works it's it's. usually negotiated ahead of time. Okay. Um and or the streamers kind of dictate. what's going to happen. So, we had So, since we had this on our own company, we. had a chance to make the the rules. ourselves. So, I did make a streaming. deal. Um but I made the theatrical deal.

first and I gave the theaters 30 days. first. And so now my streamer he would. go my streaming distribution, which is. our Samuel Goldwyn. Uh they would they. would go and hope I pronounce that. right, bro. I could [ __ ] a word up. sometimes. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, I think that's right word. >> Okay. Okay. S-. What up, Peter? >> I'm the wrong guy to ask though. Yeah, I. could [ __ ] a word up. But anyway Um so, it So, yeah, he'll solicit to streamers,

but we wanted a 30-day cinema. experience. If In In the future, I'mma try for 45. days, bro. Remember when we was kids, bro? Star Wars was in the theaters three. times before you had a chance to see it. come home. Yeah. And what did you do? You went back to the theater. >> Yeah. Because the lights, the sound, the. vibe of what you're creating. I make it. for the theater. I got to be honest with. you. I make film for the theater. When. when my other film came out during the. pandemic, Cutthroat City,

since it was a pandemic, you know, even though my contract said. it would it should be in theaters, the pandemic of it kind of made it a. force majeure like maybe not in. theaters. But my producer, um, Michael Mendelsohn, he who you know, is a good guy, he, um, he said, "All right, but I got to see. your part. I didn't make no I didn't. make this [ __ ] for no streaming, bro. Okay, I shot my [ __ ] in anamorphic. lenses. I got all the sound like I made.

it for the theaters." He was like, "Yeah, but the theaters ain't not. popping, bro. Nobody's going to the. theaters.". I was like, "Well, I don't know. Then. hold it." But he said, "I can't hold it, bro. Like, you know, it's business." But. he still nobody still say, "Okay, I'mma pitch you on 200 screens.". And you could go and get your, you know, and he did it, you know what I mean? So, all my films has always go to the cinema. first. And if I have my way, every film. I make will always start at a cinema. Have you ever tried using those What are.

they What's the Apple one, Jamie? The. those Apple AR goggles? >> Pro. Apple Vision Pro. >> Yeah. I heard watching movies on those is. phenomenal. Yes. Okay. But you have to also design it for that, too. Oh, really? Yeah, I mean, to get. the full experience because come on, you're going like this. And some there's been some artists who. have been able to create stuff for that. It's almost like, uh, I mean, I won't. say it's like the sphere. Have you been. to the sphere? >> Yes. Um, but only for a fight. Right.

No. They did a UFC there. It was. amazing. Oh, I love it there. But Dana and I and. Oscar had did a a movie made directly. for the sphere. In fact, there's another. movie they're doing They're doing. another movie right now that they they. showed me a clip of. that's going to be made in the sphere. And it's actually very sports based. And. so it's crazy. And of course The Wizard. of Oz Yeah, I heard that's nuts. Yeah, I. seen that there. You saw The Wizard of. Oz? I thought I heard there's all sorts. of crazy new effects and they added a. bunch of stuff to the movie. >> It's amazing. Yeah?

>> And it's [ __ ]. The what a sphere is amazing anyway, right? >> It's an incredible experience. >> a new thing AMC has just shown recently. and announced called ScreenX. It's. [clears throat] 270° that's going to. surround the the audience in some way. Well, that that's how you get people to. go back to the movie theater. Give them. something like this where they're like, "What?". >> of like recut, so it might be a fun way. to go back and maybe see a movie you. really liked. >> Oh, like see Avatar in that or Alien? >> The Matrix like that now. I think they. have. >> Yeah, that's a Cosme. That's kind of. like the sphere thing. Oh.

This just sort of is announced. It's. only in two two cities right now. There's a place, um, I know there's a place in Dallas. where they show UFC fights and. >> That's Cosme? >> Yeah, that's where the the Matrix thing. That's nuts, man. I love that he got the. answers, but. >> Yeah. He's a genius. But with the the place in. Dallas, the Cosme place, like you're. seated here and the screen is like 60 ft. tall and it's right in front of you and. you're watching the fights as if This is.

the Matrix. Oh, so this is the Matrix. Yeah, they worked with the film company. to sort of like remake it and add extra. stuff. Oh, wow. There's also a new screen I just saw. I. think it's going to be in Clearwater, Florida. It's going to It's the be going. to be the world's biggest screen. See if you can show. >> you the fight thing. Yeah, show me the. fight scenes. Like. people were watching the fights there. and I was like, "Okay, that might. actually be better than being there. live.". Like look how crazy the size of the. screen is.

>> Right. Like look what you're watching. Like you're sitting right there. I mean, that fight is gigantic. It's huge cuz the thing about going to. see the fights live Look at how how big. is. You can fall away. Yeah, show that. again. Like look at that. Look how nuts. that is. >> Right. Yeah, that is nuts. >> You don't get to see these camera angles. at home either, which is awesome. Not. like that. Not like that. >> I love this because this is giving me. hope, bro. Like everything you just you. just showed me is giving me hope for. cinema, you know? Right. This is and.

this is like cheaper than buying tickets. and this is better than any ticket you. could ever buy for the fights. Like. better than anything, better than my. seat. And then I was sitting cage side. >> How much how much a ticket like this. would cost? That's a good question. They. do sell tickets for this. I don't know. It's Well, um. click on that one. May 9th. How much does that cost? 100 bucks. >> 40 bucks. 100 bucks. If you want to sit. probably real close, you have 20 bucks. to get inside. Okay, general mission is. 20 bucks. What is the front row? Where's.

the screen The display's right there. What are those like right there where it. says two? That's where you'd want to be. Oh, like. >> 167. How much? 167? >> 167. That's a That's a bargain compared. to how much it would cost if you. actually went to see the fight. Nice. Okay. >> probably a better experience. Plus you. get commentary, you get to hear. everything and you're right there. And. then it's not just like being at home, which is great because there's a bunch. of people you're experiencing with, so. it adds to the excitement and the. energy. >> the knock I was going to say with the.

Vision Pro is you're it's still to right. now you're by yourself. So it's kind of. for me, I'm a like single guy in my. apartment with a dog, perfect. But. [laughter] Yeah, if you're at home with. anybody, you're like, well, I can watch it. Yeah, I don't Right. Right. Five of these. Yeah, catch up. with me catch up to me later. Like could. you watch it with a chick where you hold. hands and you both have Vision Pro and. you both start at the same time? Three, two, one, go. That's funny. That's Hey, yo, that's me and my wife on the plane. Oh, you you do that? We even on the way.

here, bro, what we watch We watch oh, Sebastian uh his. Sebastian last name is he's a. Maniscalco. Yeah, thank you. Oh, the. comedian. Yeah. >> We watched him uh he's funny guy. He's a. funny [ __ ] bro. Very funny. >> It's so Yeah, so we we do that every. time though, but we watch them on the. way. So, I don't want she want to watch. me laughing and she ain't laughing yet. So, we hit the button at the same time. [laughter]. And uh. yeah, he that guy is crazy, y'all. He's. funny. >> Yeah, that's the thing. They should have. like simultaneous viewing option. Are.

you going to watch it with someone else? Would you like to view it. simultaneously? And then have it sync up. with each other. >> One plane does that. One plane does. that. What airline was that? I. um. Qantas. Oh, okay. >> is up on it. >> Well, they got those 16-hour flights. They got to make things interesting. Yeah, the guy said it's actually it says. watch with a friend. Oh, that's smart. That's smart. Yeah, it's interesting like what is the. next level past AR with those goggles?

It's going to be an immersive experience. where you're actually We had the people. from Perplexity who were here earlier. today and we were talking about how. people uh with AI and all this stuff. they're they're going to want more human. experiences like going to see a live. concert or seeing, you know, a sporting. event live. I'm like, "Yeah.". Until it's completely immersive and then. it's like you're playing a video game, but you're in World of Warcraft or.

you're in Battlefield Earth or whatever. whatever game you're playing. I think. yeah, I think for that form of. entertainment a video game, yes, but I. still think. because even. you know, it's more senses, bro. It it. ain't just the sight and sound. It's the. smell. Yeah, but what if they can recreate. that? Like what if what if they get the. technology where you can create a movie, but the person who's watching the movie. is standing on the street like in the. opening scene where those girls pick.

that dude up in that that Saab. convertible. Like what if you're. standing, you feel the street, and you. watch the dude get in the car. Right. But you're saying at home by yourself? >> Yeah. Well, then you'll be terrified in my. film. Yeah, of course. But you'll be But. you'll be in it. You'll be in it. That'd. be interesting. I think that's coming, man. I think that's coming. Well, if. that comes, reach out to me and I'll. write a script. >> [laughter]. >> Right. >> to make sure that we [ __ ] hit you. with it right. >> You're going to have to like capitalize.

on all the different things that can. take place. >> What do you think about that. that Do you remember the Saab [ __ ]. 900? >> Like I A friend of mine had one of. those. It was a cool car, but it was. They were interesting-looking. They were. like futuristic. They were different. than any other car. That's why in the. film I was like there was like, "Well, what kind of car you want?" I was like, "Give me a Saab." He's like, "Why?" I. said, "Well, >> make them? I don't think so. I think they might. have No, I don't think they definitely. don't make Saabs. Uh-oh, hold on. This.

This is getting there. >> [laughter]. >> I don't know. That's a good question. I. know they make Volvo still. Yeah, I was. in a Volvo one time. >> know if they still make Saabs. >> bankrupt in 2011. Yeah, no more Saabs. But um the punchline for me was that. this Saab Oh, and I would I'll give you. one spoiler of the film. Um as you know, as you finish the second. half of it, um there's no time. So, I removed the time from the film, so. you don't know what year you're in. And that's why you will see.

the Saab, and then you'll see when they. when they playing that video game and. [ __ ]. Uh they playing that. Yeah, AR goggles. And a glove that don't. exist. Right. I thought that, too. When. you I was seeing a movie, I go, "Is that. real?" Yeah, the idea is that I'm glad. you brought that up. I want that to. happen. I want to see one day I could. play a basketball game like this. Right. Right. Right. That'd be dope, right? >> That would be. Yeah. They're getting. real close to stuff like that. They're. getting real close to stuff like that.

We have. an AR game out there that you you it's a. zombie game and you put the headphones. on the the headset on and you run around. and you have an actual gun and you're. shooting zombies. >> Right, yeah. And you're pointing it at. it and it's like they're getting really. close. I'll show you something I. discovered. This shout out to this guy, I think he's doing this all on his own. I found him and tweeted at him one day. but he didn't answer. Daniel Habibs is. his name. He's got this company called. True 3D. He's done this with two movies so far.

and I think you have to be in the. theater to experience it but it's kind. of exactly what we're talking about. He. converted a movie, I think Insidious, a. scary movie. >> Oh, that's a scary movie. Yeah. He's not showing you what cuz he's being. smart. He's also developing it still. He. also did it with Interstellar just. recently. >> Wow. I I almost flew to New York just so. I could go see it cuz I want I was very. curious and. it looks awesome. Yeah, looks cool. >> So he adapted it to the Vision Pro? These are just in Meta Quest headsets, I. believe and you probably have to be at. the theater cuz I think that's where the. sound's coming from. You're probably at.

the end. I looked it up. As the user watching it, you get to decide how. in depth this becomes because if you. want to see the people next to you, you. can sort of like go like level two and. still see your neighbor or go level four. and be like fully in the room and you. can't see anybody else. You can maybe. just touch them cuz you know they're. there. I like how some people are. jumping and then there's some people. that are like dead on the inside. Well, because these are jump scares, he has. that built in so you know when a jump. scare is coming or you don't know when a. jump scare is coming. Oh. So you don't.

you you can be super scared or you can. you know and not be scared that, you. know, someone's going to come from. behind you. Why would you ask that? I'm. maybe it's all This seems like it could. [ __ ] give you a heart attack. Yeah, maybe [laughter] it's people with weak. hearts like let me know let me know when. I'm going to get a freak out. >> Adobe, I I. you seen it I saw Adobe made this thing. these glasses have you seen these Adobe. glasses bro? No. That. that. that you can hear [ __ ] bro.

Like like surround sound. with glasses on. Dolby yeah I mean I I hope I'm not. revealing a secret I was I was. >> What is it doing different? Like what do. you mean you can hear things? You can. watch see and hear. >> Yeah and Dolby is there. >> sound. glasses. Yeah. And so the glasses is it. projecting it into your inner ear? Like. how's it doing it? Is it does it plug. into your ear? No it doesn't even plug. into your ear. So it's one of those. things that sits above the ear on the. outside like pressing against your.

skull? Yeah they kind of They have. headphones like that right? I've seen. that. Yeah I've seen some headphones. that give you 12 12.1. Yeah like earbuds and they they don't go. in your ear they like sit on the skull. Yeah see if you can find those Dolby. those Dolby glasses. I don't know if. they I don't know if. I I went to Dolby. uh. some months ago and they Is this a. spoiler. >> what I I told you I said [laughter] you. you ain't edit you can't edit this [ __ ]. right? We could if if we can't if you're not. supposed to know. I don't know there's. something in here that doesn't it's.

showing some of 3D glasses they have but. it didn't say the sound is coming out of. them. I would imagine if Dolby's making them. sound is involved. It has to be right? Yeah. Dolby cinema. Oh it's 3D they're. 3D glasses. I don't know I just said. >> no bro listen I put them on bro you can. hear [ __ ] Mhm. So did you put them on to watch a movie? Like what did you put them on to watch? >> Yeah I I put them on like they had a. whole demo room I thought I was looking. at something. Mhm. And it and it sounded like I was in the. room with.

it sounded like I was in the movie. theater but then I took the glasses off. Oh look this is what it is so it's. showing you everything in 3D. But you. need to have the glasses I think to get. the test. And this and the sound is is is is is is. is connected. So that's That's 2021. So this is 5 years old already. Yeah, again, I don't this might not. >> is a vision, but it but what about this. Adobe Atmos? Atmos is the sound. Yeah. Plus Dolby Vision HDR.

12 Yep, 12.61. What what year is that? Hmm. And that's that's that's that's that's. >> Wow. Oh, okay. That's that's different. That's what you. Okay, that's for your home. That's. that's having your system. But they got some [ __ ] with it that's in. the glasses, bro. Hmm. Anyway. Well,

we're we're in an interesting time when. it comes to technology and all this. stuff. >> Yeah. And entertainment. >> VR stuff and Yeah. and where it's going. I'm happy about it. Are you? Yeah, it's. interesting. I mean, I know a lot of. people are freaked out about AI. There's. a lot of that. A lot of people are. freaked out about AI music. A lot of. people are freaked out about AI. replacing actors and their their ability. to generate images and video. I I. I I. I believe AI to be a tool. I'm from the.

hip-hop generation, right? So, we. sampling Mhm. a record. and therefore it's a digital replication. of the record. It's not the record. Right. >> Right? And especially when we sampling. it at 16-bit or 12-bit or some bit. that's not even. where the the the computer or the AI or. the. the chip has to fill in the pieces. This. is why you get that sound you hear from. hip-hop. So, so I always embraced. embraced it the technology.

I also know that it's nothing like the. real thing. You know, I put on a. you know, even if even if I put on a. piece of vinyl. and put that needle on it, and play it. cuz in my house I have it I got all type. of setups, right? But, when we really want to have a good. time, we just put it on the [ __ ]. vinyl. And it sounds so much better, different, or it's got depth to it. Exactly. It. crackles. Exactly. It's something else.

So, it's nothing like the real thing. But, in in the in between time, in the. meantime, let's enjoy. you know, like I said, if you could if I. could make you feel like you. Hawaii, and you don't have to leave your. house. Right. Cool. But, if you could go. to Hawaii right right right. You know. what I mean? Go to Hawaii. Um you know what? I was. trying to tell the AI industry or AI. community that we got to change the A.

It shouldn't be. considered artificial. It's digital intelligence. Well, keep. the A cuz you can't. but but don't change the A could be. assisted, accumulated. Depending on the situation, find the. find the A word. that makes it. describe. what you're doing it. Like for instance, it's right now it's assisting him. Right. This is an it's an assist it's. assisting the intelligence.

Right. Artificial sounds cheap. >> Yeah, it's. bro, you don't want artificial nothing. If I. if you came to your girl, and you. proposed to her with some artificial. diamonds Right. It ain't working, okay? Girls don't even like real diamonds that. are man-made. Ain't it weird that is? They have a hard. time selling real diamonds that are made. in a laboratory. I know it's yeah, is that a real. diamond? >> It's a real diamond. I mean, my my. literally Yeah, it's a real diamond. Yeah, it's just not created by the earth.

over time. It's not created in a. laboratory, but it is still but if If. look at it, it's a real I mean, it's not. like a fake Ferrari. It's a [ __ ]. diamond. You know what I mean? Like it doesn't. have to do things. Like if you if you go. to China and you buy a fake iPhone, who. knows what the [ __ ] in there? Right. All kinds of It probably won't work with. Apple, won't work with the iTunes store, the Apple store. But uh diamond is just. a [ __ ] rock. >> [laughter]. >> And they can take that carbon and. compress it and make an artificial.

diamond and lady's like, "Nah, I don't. want it." Yeah. [snorts]. >> I want a real one. I'm going to I'm. going to stick with the ladies on that. one. >> [laughter]. >> Weird. I'm going to I'm going to stick. with the ladies on it because. I think the value of the diamond is the. time that it took to become existence. Unfortunately, That's not the value. >> diamonds are harvested in a similar way. as cobalt. Oh, well. Now that you put it that way. >> Yeah, that's why they say they call them. blood diamonds. >> Right, right, right. >> Yeah, so if you get a diamond from a. lab, no there's no blood. It's just a.

machine that's compressing carbon and it. looks beautiful. And I would if I Look, obviously I'm not. a chick and I don't own any diamonds, but if I did, I'd want the lab diamond. I'm like, "Give me that dope [ __ ] that. some scientist figured out how to make.". >> Basically, you'll go vegan on the. diamonds. >> Yeah. And how big can they make them? How big can they make a lab-grown. diamond? And how do they even tell? Like how do you tell whether or not a. diamond's a lab diamond? Like can Is. there a way that they can test them?

Or is it just like provenance? Like you. know based on like it coming from. De Beers or whatever. But if there's a. way to But if there's a way that they. that they could test them, Bless you. Bless you. If there's a way that they could test. them, then it's. not real. Yeah. >> Right, right, right. Unless there's a. way maybe they're perfect in a way that. doesn't exist in the diamond world. I. don't know, I'm guessing. Completely. guessing. Look at the size of that. [ __ ] rock. >> 75. carats.

70 the largest ever grown. Okay, so that's a fake not a fake. diamond, a real diamond made in a lab. that's 75 carats. How much does that. [ __ ] cost? 88. >> 42 carat diamond for $88,000. Is that. real? Is that [laughter] how much it. cost? That's how much it cost? >> That's nothing. I would be buying it. from this website, brilliantsearth.com. Jamie, just give them your credit card.

Don't worry about it. That's real. You. could tell. Yeah, that might not be real. >> [gasps and laughter]. >> That one that might not be real. But, let's let's find out like what is a. reputable site. and how much is a reputable lab-grown. diamond? How much? How much does that. cost? Largest faceted lab-grown $375,000. Do you know how much money that would. cost if that was an actual diamond from. the earth? Yeah. It probably be $100.

million. Oh. Exactly. That's crazy. Well, that Well, that's that's Mhm. How. much would that cost? Find out how much. that would cost if it was a real I mean, is there even a real diamond that exists. that big? Uh yeah, this one is But, $375,000. What? It weighed the the biggest one. weighed 3,100. carats. Whoa. When it was found in 1905. That's. a real one. Yeah. Whoa. And it was cut.

into smaller ones. Look at that, bro. That's insane. It took a long time. The. girl's like, "All right, that one.". "Give [laughter] me that one.". Jeez. How old Yo, ask ask ask my man. Perplexity. how old is that diamond? Oh my god, it. has to be millions and millions of years. old. >> [snorts]. >> Let's see what it What does it say here? Does it say the age of it? That's nuts. 1.18.

billion years old. When it reached the. surface. Oh my god. Now how you going How you going to. replicate that? You can if you think so. >> You say with a machine? >> Yeah, it's better. Um. so like if you buy a lab-grown diamond. versus a diamond that came from the. earth, how can they tell the difference? Find that out. Can you discern? Put this into. perplexity. How do you discern between a. lab-grown diamond and a diamond that.

came from the earth? Whether or not How do you discern? Make. a girl smell it. They get up on a double. leg. I don't smell blood. >> Yeah, men Men can't tell, but women can. >> [laughter]. >> Their hair in the back of their neck. sticks up. I don't like it. It seems fake. It says you can't. You. can't? It says you can't? That's real I. mean it specialized scanners, which. almost means in Hold on. Let me Let me.

Let me read that to the audience. It. says. >> is the same. Lab-grown and natural. diamonds have the same sparkle, hardness, and basic optical properties. So they look identical in jewelry. Naked eye test don't work. Standard home. tricks, fog test, scratch test, only. distinguish diamond from non-diamond, not lab versus natural. Standard diamond testers don't help. Thermal electric testers will say. diamond for both lab-grown and natural. stones because their physical properties. are essentially the same. In other. words, you cannot reliably discern the.

origin of your on your own just by. looking at it or using a simple tester. A jeweler, how do they do it? Let's see. What does this say here? They. literally seems like they write the word. lab-grown that you can see under a. microscope or something. It says an. inscription on many lab-grown diamonds. are inscribed. Why would you inscribe. it? Cuz you're an [ __ ] Okay. >> [laughter]. >> I don't know. Okay, inclusions of growth. features. if you make better if you if. you're like the best at it, if you're. the Rolex of making lab-grown diamonds. so people can't copy yours, maybe. Well,

no, no, here goes something else. interesting. It says uh lab-grown. uh HP. HT and CVD diamonds can show. characteristic of metallic inclusions. and geometric patterns or growth. striations that differ from most natural. diamonds. But this is subtle and not. always present. But there's a chance to. dance, right? >> Yeah, there's a chance. Natural diamonds. tend to have more irregular geol-. geologic looking inclusions. Um. fluorescence patterns under UV,

differences in how the stone fluoresces. under shortwave and longwave UV light. can hint at lab-grown versus natural, but interpretation requires training and. comparison. Okay. >> hints. That's interesting. But it says. hints, not guarantees, and many stones. look ambiguous without proper. instruments. Okay. So she got to be a She got to complain. At the end of the day, right? >> to bring it to a university. >> Yeah. Test this. Yeah, she cuz she has. to be If she's dissatisfied, she has to. has She really has to complain.

>> though that. it's the same thing, but. some women want it to be from the earth. and not from a lab, even though it's the. same thing. It's like if they could make you a. banana and it tasted like a banana, it. had all the vitamins of a banana, it. looked like a banana, but it wasn't. grown on a banana tree. It just came out. of a banana lab. Would you be upset if somebody gave you. of the fake banana if it's exactly the. same? Mm, that's a good question. Weird.

Well, well, well, >> Bananas aren't There's no status. attached to a banana. It's just a food. that we eat, but. >> Yeah, but what what about GMO? Aren't we. anti-GMO? Yeah, but is it genetically modified if. it's just a replica of a banana? I mean. I banana's probably a bad thing cuz. you're putting it in your body. >> Right. But if it's something that is a. like. >> Like here's a good one. >> Okay. Faux fur versus a real fur. Right. Why would you why would you complain if.

I came home. with a. faux mink? Because some women want the. actual animal to die. >> [laughter]. >> So they can wear it. I want something to suffer in the snow. and a trap around its neck. All right. >> I don't know. It's weird. What movie was. that? The Revenant The Revenant, right? >> Yeah. That was a good one. That was. Leonardo. >> Yeah. It was It was a good because it. also let us you know just I love the. idea that.

that there was a business. sadly. and [ __ ] going looking for. animals to kill to bring back and make a. jacket. Yeah, still is. Still is. >> Still is. You know, there's a company in. China that makes Rolexes exact. to a real Rolex, but it's not a real. Rolex. They cuz because of 3D printing now. because of. they can scan every individual part that. a So they buy a Rolex and then recreate.

exactly. to the the same type of steel that they. use, the same quartz for the the the the. the whatever the [ __ ] is the term? >> the band. >> What am What is the term I'm looking. for? The lens? It's not the lens. What. is it called? Bezel? No, no, no, the. glass part that's in the front. God, how can I forget the face? No. I forget what it's called. How I It's. one of those brain farts where my brain.

is like just not remembering. what it means. >> The watch crystal is what I'm saying. >> The crystal. That's it. Just the. crystal. Jesus. But they take it and they recreate. everything with the exact same. materials, but it's like 500 bucks. As opposed to. 11,000. But it is exact. Like you bring. it to a watch person and it will take. them hours to figure out whether or not. this is an actual Rolex or not. They. have to use microscopes, they have to. get up in there and look at the finish.

and the way the hands are made and So. what you So what you wearing? >> and better and better at it. >> Would you wear or. >> [snorts]. >> Yeah, I would wear it. I mean, I don't I. wouldn't cuz I have a real one, but but. if I didn't have a real [clears throat]. one, I would wear it. You know who wears a fake one? Usyk, the. heavyweight champion of the world, Oleksandr Usyk. Yeah, he wears a fake. Rolex. He thinks it's hilarious. You know what? That's that's that's my. big question like. like I was we were just talking about. you know, the AI or talking about. whatever it is. I think anything is good until the real. thing shows up. You know, I think when.

the real thing shows up, it's going to be real. And you And. there's something about the real thing, whatever that is, whatever that thing. is, that's just like it ain't going to. never not be real. Right. You [laughter] know what I mean? >> Well, there's something about like a. real Rolex, it comes from the company. Rolex, it's been making watches for a. hundred years and it's they figured out. the technology, they figured out how to. you know, cuz these like a Rolex is an. automatic watch, so it's got it's moving.

on like this is an Omega and this this. watch is automatic, too. So this is. moving on. it's working on my movement. So my. movement winds it. So every time I move. my arm, it winds it up and the second. hand and it's incredibly precise, accurate within like a couple seconds a. day. Right. And somebody had to figure. that out. Right. And they figured it out. a long. [ __ ] time ago. These guys figured out. how to make the perfect amount of spring. tension, these little tiny gears that. move around in there.

>> And how long how long does. how long does it last? How long will it stay charged for or. >> Yeah, like like. I don't have too much I do got a couple. of Rolexes, but I don't know I don't as. you see I don't have. >> Oh, wow. Well, they'll last for decades. and decades. I mean, you could buy. there's a place called Bob's Watches. online. You could buy like a 1967 Rolex. and it still works perfectly. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, they last forever. And sometimes they need service and all. that means is like they need to clean. them out and maybe they replace a spring.

or some [ __ ] But then it's back to. work. >> I seen one in um. well, for the for the for the ones. that's making in China, you know what I. mean? That's you know, and the guys. >> super clones. >> Yeah, the super cloners and you can't. afford a real one and you want to be. cool with a fake one. Follow on a budget. We're not knocking. that. But I saw one that my wife wanted. She didn't get it. I told her to get it. But she um she thought she'd get it. somewhere else. In Brussels, right? They had You have.

you ever seen an orange Rolex? No. Exactly, bro. They had it on display for. sale. And she never seen it either. I'm not. into watches, but she's kind of getting. there into it. So she and we was kind of. moving fast and [ __ ] and she was like. you know, she saw it and she wanted it. Uh I said, "Well, go ahead and get it. I'll wait." She said, "No, we can move. I'll get it somewhere else.". You can't get it nowhere else. You only could get it from that one. location in Brussels. Oh, so Rolex makes. it specifically just for them for that.

Well, there's some companies that. customize watches. that you could buy where they take a. regular Rolex and they customize it. And. the problem with that is. even though it's expensive, it's not. worth as much to some people because. they've altered it. >> Right. This is not altered, though. Oh, it comes only from Rolex. >> from Rolex, but. >> And they only sell it. >> sell it there. >> Oh, wow. You know what I mean? Take it. see if you can He might see if you can. find that one. People love exclusivity. Hall of Time in Brussels. Rolex Explorer.

II, the primary model featuring a single. bright orange 24-hour hand. Often found at authorized dealers like. Hall of Time in Brussels. >> [laughter]. >> Wow, interesting. >> So, I got to take all the way back to. Brussels to get it. >> Ooh, oh, it's so pretty though. I bet you could buy it online. Could you. buy it online? You probably have to pay. a premium. Look at that, 11,000. You can buy it. online. 210,000 Jeez, that's ain't what I like. right there. Gorgeous. Yeah.

210,000, jeez. Maybe I won't be going. back to Brussels. >> [laughter]. >> Jeez. It's just crazy how much cheaper those. super clones are that look exactly the. same. I bet you after this podcast the super. clones are going to say, "You going to make those now.". >> [laughter]. >> See if you can find. one of those super clone sites from. China. Cuz what they're doing is just taking. advantage of the fact that like. everybody wants these status symbols, and that's what a lot of it is, you. know, it's like a So, here it is.

What is this company called? superluxuryreps.com. Um, let's go with the Scroll up a little. bit, please. Right there, the Daytona. That's the classic. Black dial Daytona, that's a Ooh, look. at that blue one right there to the. right. The one Yeah, look at that. [ __ ]. Click on that. 1,600 bucks. Yeah. Boy, that would be so much more money. Look. how pretty that is. That looks perfect.

So, [laughter] no one would ever know. So, for 1,600 bucks, no one is ever. going to [ __ ] know. >> There's a pretty good chance that's a. picture of a real one, too. Good point. Good point. >> Damn, Jamie's thinking levels ahead. I. like that. I like that. >> [laughter]. >> That's true, they might be [ __ ] with. you. When you getting home and it ain't. like it was in the front of in the. picture. It's just The Whopper is not. the size it is when the commercial come. Good though. That's thicker. Okay, so luxury. super luxury reps. Let's.

put this into a search. Super luxury. reps reviews. See how good are the watches from super. luxury reps? Yeah, look at that. Super clone date just 36 mm floral dial. 1,000 bucks. Oh, Trustpilot. That's crazy. They just stuck that on. there. They stuck that [laughter] I mean. come on, this is in China. WhatsApp us. Yeah, this is in China. Video proof.

Okay, video proof on every website. Show. me video proof. Oh, how about Okay, go. to Richard Mille cuz those watches are. like a million bucks. Video proof of one. right here. Oh, video proof. Show me the. video proof. on a vertical screen Oh, so they're. getting very close to it. Oh yeah, I. guess maybe they're trying to show the. microscope. Yeah, so you're seeing all. the action and all the movement. So, Richard Mille watch, click on those, please, because um that's like a million. dollar watch. Those watches are insanely.

expensive. How much they cost? 1,600 or so. 1,400. bucks. Yeah. So, 1,400 bucks or a. million bucks. Right. You know what I just learned from. watching that thing though? What? The. other one you had with the moving gears, it reminded me of the quantum computer. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's something like my. brain is bugged out, but Those things. are weird. But I saw I saw I saw. the signs of a quantum computer there.

Right, all that stuff moving. Yeah, because it it takes gears It takes that. Well, the quantum computers are so crazy. cuz all that [ __ ] is all cooling and the. actual computer is like the size of a. like a Triscuit. Right. You kind of you. think about the human heart, right? It's it's it's it's doing a lot of. [ __ ] work. Oh, yeah. You know what I. mean? It's doing a lot and it's Do zone. is not really a pump. That's what they. saying now. Yeah, it's like a cycle. It's like a cycle everything. A vortex, yeah.

But it's I used to think it was a pump, but it makes sense, right? The quantum. computer, the brain, all these things. is more It's almost like our biology. is teaching is science is now catching. up to the science of our biology and now. finding a way to mechanically. uh emulate our biology. So, what superluxurereps.com. is they sell Perplexity says they sell. super clone luxury watches emphasizing. that the pieces mirror the design, weight, and performance of genuine.

models. They present themselves as a. premium alternative to cheap replicas. focusing on workmanship, durability, and. we just did an ad for these people. We. just We basically just gave them an ad. I guarantee you some. fakers fakers are going to go there. You're not thinking you're buying the. real thing here and you shouldn't. That's just the note. But the thing is. it's like it mirrors the performance. It. looks exactly the same. That's my point. It's like why does a Rolex cost that. much money then? If they can make it for.

1,400 bucks, why is it like how much. does a Daytona cost if you bought it. retail? Like what is a Rolex? Let's take a. guess. I got to imagine it's 15,000. I got to imagine it's at least 10 times. more. Like what is a Rolex Daytona cost? >> saying that the material is all the. same. But. this but they're stealing the idea. >> Yes, they're stealing everything. They're stealing the design, the idea. So, you're paying at 15,000, you're.

paying for the idea, the design, and. everything, not just the material. >> It's like 30 grand. So, it's more than. 10. Look at that. Yeah. And so that black one, the black faced. one is exactly like the one that they. had there. Why, that's pretty. But, you could sell that, though. The. thing is, that comes with paperwork, and. you could sell it probably for even more. than 30 afterwards. That's the. difference. That's the difference, right. It can appreciate and not. depreciate.

>> serial numbers and paperwork and all. that [ __ ] It's an actual investment. I want to take a moment to once again, this is the RZA on the Joe Rogan. Experience. [laughter]. Can I Can I do this? Yes, please. >> Okay, thanks. It's the RZA on the Joe Rogan. Experience. I have a new film coming out. May 1st in theaters. It's called One. Spoon of Chocolate. Quentin Tarantino. presents The RZA's One Spoon of. Chocolate in theaters everywhere, May. 1st. It follows the story. of a ex-military convict trying to find. a better way in life, ends up in a small.

town, and [ __ ] goes bananas. >> Chaos ensues. Dun dun dun. Action-packed. Action-packed. >> Bone-shattering. And uh available on streaming in maybe a. month or so. Yeah, maybe a month or so. Maybe 45 days. Go see it in the. theaters. And you know what? Go to the theaters, Joe. You know why I'm calling? Because. Tell me if you agree with this. I don't care where you get popcorn from. anywhere else. I like I I like. Disneyland. I like the amusement parks.

But no popcorn. touches movie theater popcorn. >> They know what they're doing. They got. something going on there. But whatever. that butter is, what is that [ __ ] That. stuff when you go to the machine, you. press the button. >> Oh, I don't know what that is. >> there? I think it's vegan. It can't be. good for you. It can't be good. It's. >> be good for you. Well, at the Alamo. Drafthouse, they use real butter. >> Oh, they use real butter. Yeah, Alamo. Drafthouse. Ever been to Synnapolis? Yes. Yes, Synnapolis is awesome. >> right? Oh, they have everything there. >> Is that a date night Yeah, man.

Beautiful seats. You like laying back. >> Yeah. They have waiters and waitresses. Do you. and the wife like going to see movies? >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Is What's your What's. your favorite theater? I love. Synnapolis. That's my favorite. Yeah, that's that's that's the place. Because. the seats are the best, they recline, they're perfect. >> Yeah. They always they know what they're. doing. Plus, it costs a little bit more. to go there, so like no one's on their. phone, making noises, people aren't. talking. You know what I mean? >> I agree. Now the crazy thing I will say though, Synnapolis is is my favorite theater as.

well for date night with my wife. But. I strongly believe, based on my. experience, that it was the Alamo. Drafthouse that pioneered that whole. concept of. >> Of food. >> Yeah, bro. I remember coming out here. I don't know, it might have been 2004 or. something. Like it was just one Alamo. Drafthouse, I think. Guys had it on. them. On 6th Street. >> On 6th Street, exactly. >> That's my building now. That's your. building now, bro? >> That's the mothership. Yeah. I bought that place. That's the Ritz. Bro. That's my That's my school, bro.

>> Yeah, that's the Ritz. >> that's why I I used to come out to the. QT I mean, that's my That's my film. college. I went I've seen so many movies. there. I've I've I've I've seen six. movies in one day. >> Tarantino screened Death Proof there. Yeah. Yeah. They They had so many movies. out of that place. That place was. everything, man. It used to be a rock. and roll club. It was at one point it. was a pool hall. Right. It's been a. bunch of different things. >> own my college now. >> Yeah, it's a dope spot, too. It's It's a. perfect place and it's.

we still have the original marquee. because it's all the historical society. So, it's a building from 1927. >> you got fried pickles in there because. they. >> No food. >> No. No food. No No We're comedy club. There's food next door, there's a pizza. joint on one side, there's a Mexican. joint on the other side. I'm just. playing food. You don't want to be. eating while you're laughing. >> [laughter]. >> We We have one thing, we sell jokes. Nice. >> Jokes and drinks. That's it. I got to I. got to pop in and uh. and uh who's your who's your who's your. who's your next guest or Oh, we always I.

mean, I do shows there every Tuesday and. Wednesday and every weekend we have. national headliners that are there. I. don't even know who's there this. weekend. Who's there this weekend, Johnny? I'm checking. Um but it's um you know, it's set up. with two rooms, just like the Alamo was. There was two theaters there. So, we. have two rooms. We have a small room. that seats like 110 people, and then the. big room that's like 250 people. >> Nice. Nice. >> And it's set up perfect. We had it all. like the ceilings lowered and everything. tightened up and.

The mothership. Comedy mothership. >> Rich Voss will be there. Rich Voss, my. boy. My boy Rich, he's awesome. Uh the Rizza. I'm glad we did it this time without. Donnell. Sorry, Donnell. I love you to. death, but it was better without you. Better without you. [laughter] And now. now I'm sorry. I'm sorry Indian gave. you. Yeah, I I got something coming to. you, kid. >> [laughter]. >> Uh a spoonful of chocolate out. everywhere. Everywhere, May 1st. May. 1st. Uh all movie theaters. See it in.

the movie theater first. That's. definitely where you want to see it. You. want to have that experience with a. bunch of other people. I'm there. And uh. thank you, brother. It was always good. to see you. And Wu-Tang forever. Wu-Tang. forever. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Bong bong, here we come. Here we go. All. right. [music] Bye, everybody. >> [music].