Joe Rogan Experience #2486 - Luis J Gomez

Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. >> The Joe Rogan Experience. >> TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY. NIGHT. All day. >> Special and then [music] I just [ __ ]. fell off. >> I had a margarita at dinner once and I. was like, "All right, I'm back.". >> Yeah, that'll do it. It's just that one. You think I'll have one? It was nice. It. just I was drinking too much because. the, you know, owning a club there all. the time, you know, how everyone's like,

"You want a shot? You want a drink?". >> Yeah. I can imagine when I'm at your. club, I get blackout drunk every time. Like an actual problem. Like I walk down. the stairs, I'm like, "What the [ __ ]. just happened? [laughter] I drink so. much at the mothership." Austin in. general. Are we on? Are we? >> I think we're rolling. Yeah. The problem. is Shane. [laughter]. >> Oh yeah. He's an animal. I don't know. how he does it. I did the Bridgestone. Arena with him on Friday night. Uh, I. mean, first of all, just insane. Like. 20,000 people. I mean, [ __ ]. >> nuts. >> Saturday night, I did 95 people at the. dojo of comedy. >> Is that the first time you did a big one. in the round?

>> In the round is like oddly intimate, isn't it? Cuz everyone's facing each. other. >> Yeah. You can uh It feels like it's a. club around you on the bottom. You kind. of like It's so funny cuz people get. like so in their head. They're like, "Dude, it's all these people. It's. crazy." I'm like, "I performed to half. sold out comedy clubs. Do you know how. much more nerve-wracking it is to make. eye contact with your fans that are. disappointed that they're in a half sold. out room [laughter] that 20,000 people. that are just there to be like [ __ ]. Shane? >> It's one of those things you just do it. a couple of times and you get it gets. normal. >> Yeah, >> like all things.

>> I'm sure. >> Yeah, like all. >> that's more fun, dude. >> It is very fun. >> Oh, it's so much more fun. >> I would I would just so you guys know, I. would way rather perform to 20,000. people than 100. [laughter]. >> I just want you to know that. I don't. know if that's a unique idea, but. >> Yeah. 100's good too though cuz a 100. really shows you if your bits are. [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> You know 100 shows you the weak links in. and bits. >> You see them checking their phone. >> No, it's in you feel it. >> Yeah. >> You feel like you're delivering them. horseshit, >> you know? You you feel like you're not.

appreciating what you're saying. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? Of course. And I. think it's also like uh it's it's such a. spectacle when you go to like an arena. where it's like people are like so lit. and pumped to just like be there. They're so happy. They're so excited. I. I don't know how Sabrina Carpenter just. came up in my feed um from Coachella. Little hot child. [laughter] And uh. she's like this. All my algorithm is now. Sabrina Carpenter. >> My daughter loves her. >> I'm sure. Yeah. Uh my girlfriend loves. her. And [laughter]. >> she's got some good jams. That espresso. song. That's a really good song.

>> Yeah. Manchild. >> She's got some songs. >> That's my [ __ ] dude. It's become my. [ __ ] I never heard any of her music. before this past week, but the Coachella. stuff has all been showing up and like. I'm watching these girls watch Sabrina. Carpenter. >> They're so happy. >> So happy. >> There like nothing will like they're. like. >> just they're like just having the best. moment of their life. These 16-year-old. girls are like [ __ ] Sabrina. Carpenter. >> That's why like people got to chill on. things that they think suck cuz it's. just not for you, man. >> And that's okay. >> Yeah, that's okay. Like spending all.

your time dwelling on things that aren't. for you is so crazy. >> It's a crazy thing. >> It's such a waste of time. >> It's internet culture. That's what it. is. Like the internet and social media. became a thing where we gave everyone a. voice. Everyone has to have an opinion. Nobody wants to admit they're wrong, right? And they have to have a hot take. everything that happens within minutes. Y. >> not even a moment to to to let me. reflect. Let me just do a little bit of. research. Let me just look up a couple. facts. They just jump into whatever. their opinion is. And that's the same. thing when it comes to like um you know. entertainment and you know all you dude.

you know better than any I was I was. talking to Jamie before like you and. Tony have become so big that it's become. like um like it's like culture. It's not. even like like I know you guys. You know. what I'm saying? So it's like it's but. it's like when I remove myself from it, it's like you guys are as big as Sabrina. Carpenter. Like having a conversation. about Joe Rogan going to the White House. or Sabrina Carpenter at Coachella. That's trending [ __ ] You know what I'm. saying? and people feel like they have. to come out and just give their opinion. on it right away. If you don't like it, don't like it. >> But that's also like if you don't want.

people to have their opinions on you, don't go to the White House. [laughter]. >> That's a great point. >> You know, like I don't fault them for. getting, you know, whatever, whatever. hot take, getting mad at me for whatever. reason, go ahead. Yeah, >> that's that's your thing. You're you're. allowed to. You're supposed to like if. you're a comic, too. You're supposed to. [ __ ] on people if you think they're. doing something stupid. >> Yeah. Do you get offended when comics. [ __ ] on you? >> No. >> Never. >> No. I mean, I'm in the I'm in this weird.

zeitgeist thing. I don't get offended. Some of them I think it's lame because I. think I know them. Like, I'm friends. with them and they're like using me to. get clout. Like, if you really had a. problem with me, you could just text me. Yeah. >> You know, if you really. >> felt like I was an antiaxer and I was. endangering people's lives, [ __ ] text. me, bro. Do you know me? >> Yeah. >> It's weird. It's weird when people do. that and maybe they feel like an. obligation even though they know you to. speak publicly. There's a lot of people. that feel like they they have to use. their voice. >> like when something is wrong they have.

to come out and say it which. >> also boredom. They just. >> I understand the inclination. I. understand the inclination and that. people will tell you that that you need. to use your voice. And if you feel like. you need to use your voice, okay? But. what I'm saying is there's far too many. people out there dwelling on things they. do not like versus things they like. And. this life is [ __ ] short. >> It does. I am 58 years old. I'm almost. 59. That's dead. That's [laughter] old. as [ __ ]. >> Yeah. 20 years best case scenario,

>> right? If everything goes great and what. are those 20 years like? I mean, I'm. holding it together thanks to ways to. well and and my obsessive need to work. out, but other than that, man, I feel. it. I feel it's slipping away. It's. gonna. >> It's crazy. Like, I'm 44. I just turned. 44 a couple weeks ago, and like best. case scenario, like absolute best case. scenario, >> midlife. >> Midlife. >> Yeah. Best case. >> My My aunt has never worked out a day in. her life. She's 89 years old. She's just. a a fat old Italian lady. She eats.

whatever she wants. >> That's the move, man. >> It might be. Dude, why am I so obsessed. with trying to get in shape and eating. right and doing all this other stuff? My. fat aunt just does whatever she wants. and she's just an old Italian lady. She's just she's going to she's she's as. young as I've ever remembered her. She's. so with it. It's so funny to me. >> I've vacationed in Italy a bunch of. times and I've gone to these little. small towns. There's always like a. really nice restaurant. This little. small town you have to take like a van. up into the hills. >> Yeah. You're on like a like a cliffside. with like no guardrail. You get to these.

places and you see these people having. these like three and a half hour. dinners. Everyone's relaxed. They're all. laughing. Their families around and. >> four generations, there's 170y old, >> but no one's stressed out. >> Yeah. >> They're not all freaked out like. Americans are. They're also not fat. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> The these thin people, they're And. they're eating bread. They're eating. bread and pasta and [ __ ]. >> gelato and they're not smoking.

cigarettes and they live to be hundred. >> My favorite uh place to visit Italy. I. brought my son for a father-son trip. there years ago. Then I just brought my. whole family last year. We went to uh. Venice and Rome. >> and uh yeah, dude. I I I have like a. gluten intolerance. Like if I eat a. sandwich, I'm just going to You'll see. it in my face. Like. >> all I did was eat pasta, bread, gelato. the whole time. The whole time. >> And you were fine. I lost five pounds. I. was there for a week. I lost five. [ __ ] pounds. People are like, "Dude, it's the walking." I was like, "It's not. the walking." I I walking does not lose.

[ __ ] You don't lose weight from. walking if you're a person who actively. exercises. >> We are being poisoned. >> Yeah. >> 100%. And the, you know, RFK Jr. has. been working really hard to try to stop. a lot of what is [ __ ] with us with. our diet in America. God, the resistance. is crazy. >> Yeah. Well, listen. People decide what. side they're on and they go, "I don't. care how good it might be. >> [ __ ] you. You're part of Trump's. cabinet.". >> It's a little of that, but what I'm. talking about is the resistance from.

corporations. >> Oh, yeah. I'm sure. >> And the effect that they have on policy. and then the reality of economics. Like. here was a big one. Like he had to um he. had to pass. So there's this thing. Do. you know what glyphosate is? >> No. >> Okay. So, it's uh an herbicide that they. spray on plants and uh it's super bad. for you. It's super bad for you and it's. banned in a lot of countries, but it's. used ubiquitously in the United States.

and there's some extraordinary number of. people. glyphosate. >> on the wheat. Is this what they're. spraying on the wheat? >> Exactly. So, they spray it on the wheat. as a desiccator. So, they spray it on. the wheat after the wheat has already. been harvested to keep it from growing. mold, >> which is crazy. They're going to spray. poison to make sure that life doesn't. grow on your wheat. >> That's really what's going on. Like like. mold is a type of life and they want to. make sure it doesn't grow on this wheat. that they're going to sell you. So they. spray poison. [laughter].

>> So RFK Jr. was trying really hard to. stop that. But Trump essentially said. that if they passed this ban on. glyphosate and they forced all these. farmers to stop moving glyphosate, it. would destroy the farm market in. America. It would destroy it. Like 90. something% of these people use. glyphosate. >> Wow. And you're like, >> that's cuz they have to like it's it. preserves it essentially. So they could. keep it longer and. >> for wheat and and then corn actually has.

like Roundup ready corn so you could. spray it on the corn and it survives. this [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> So like it kills all the weeds around it. but the corn survives. We got this. nuclear corn. >> That's bizarre. >> And what's crazy is our whole system. depends on it. Like we've got a bad. system and the solution is keep the bad. system for now because if we don't if we. don't feed people poison then we'll go. under. [laughter]. >> It's so crazy. And that's how that's.

what it is in America. That's why when. you go to Italy you get that Italian. flour which is heirloom wheat. So, you. know, Maynard from Tulle, he explained. this to me because he owns restaurants. >> and he said that when you're getting. wheat from America, it's like got a. higher uh yield per acre cuz it's like. more gluten dense. It has more complex. glutens in it and your body just goes. whoa. Like this is a lot. You know that. feeling that like whoa cuz you're. essentially eating glue,

>> right? when you eat pasta that you have. it in Italy or I'm not saying it doesn't. have calories but there's a difference. in the way it feels when it goes in your. body there's not a resistance it feels. like food. >> when I become a glutton and I eat like a. whole pizza in America if it's not at a. good spot that you know uses Italian. wheat. >> I feel like I [ __ ] poison myself. >> I literally feel um I mean almost like a. a hangover a weird. >> like you feel it like in your veins.

>> so I don't know if that's the complex. glutens. I don't know if that's. glyphosate. I think the glyphosate thing. is probably dangerous, but yet also. possibly overstated. >> So, it seems like the the very low. levels of glyphosate our body can. tolerate it. But the real question is. like why are we [ __ ] tolerating it? Like why is that there? >> Yeah, >> cuz there's people that think that. that's what you're reacting to when. you're eating wheat. That you're. reacting to your your body's just like. what is this? I don't like this [ __ ]. herbicide that's. >> Well, that's also happened as I got. older. I don't even know what it was.

Like I just I never really had an issue. with like pizza, pasta, wheat, anything. when I was a kid. I could eat a peanut. butter jelly sandwich to my mid20s. It. just hit me in a different way. And I. don't actually I don't know if you can. develop a gluten intolerance or a gluten. >> seems like a lot. It happens to a lot of. people as they get older. I wonder what. that is. I wonder if that's just your. body just like e [ __ ] enough, dude. >> Your body just gives up on it. It's like. But when you were young, >> it's running more efficiently just. naturally. >> You're you're young. You're full of. hormones. your body, the cells are. replicating perfectly. Everything.

you're a [ __ ] animal, everything's. great and I think your body could just. burn it off. Like that's why hangovers. weren't as bad when I was 20 either. >> No. Yeah, >> hangovers were no big deal. Just have. some water the next day and you'll be. good. >> Yeah, >> it was not that bad, >> dude. >> Hangovers. If I have a hangover at 58, I'm like, what? What are you trying to. die early, you [ __ ] idiot? >> That's what I was saying about Shane at. the the stadium or the the arena before. It's like he's we get there and I wasn't. even drinking. I stopped drinking um you. know regularly here and there, but I I I.

was just the best shape and the best. mental state I've ever been in my life. was when I'm completely sober. Completely sober, eating healthy, exercising every day. That right there. is the best. It's the best version of. everybody. It's not a unique thing to. myself, right? But Shane, I was like, you know, he's [ __ ] changed. He was. like, "Come on, you got to have a drink. Come on." Yeah. >> So, I was like, I started drinking. whiskey. >> The best version of Shane is 11 Bud. Lights. [laughter]. >> After 11, he's just unstoppable. He's a. jolly drunk. That's why. >> I don't know how he does it. I don't. know if I can have done it for more than.

two, three nights in a row. I I would. die. >> You ever smoke weed with a rapper? It's. the same [ __ ] It's like people get used. to things. >> You know, try smoking weed with Whis. Khalifa. >> Whisk should try smoking weed with me. >> Really? >> Are you kidding me? >> Are you really You calling him out? >> I used to be Bring it on Whis Khalifa. I. used to be I mean I'm talking about an. all day every day get up in the morning. just to get going five dabs. Like I like. real deal pthead. Blunt to the head. M. >> I smoked one to the head a week ago. right before I trained and uh my my.

sparring partner was like you smell like. weed. I was like I could never in a. million years but it's just I'm so used. to it that I. >> becomes a normal state. Well. >> jiu-jitsu. Everyone smokes weed before. training. >> A lot of people smoke. It's a dirty. secret of jiu-jitsu. A lot of people. smoke weed before jiu-jitsu. What is. Whiz doing up the nose? >> Nose dab. Yeah. >> Oh no. >> You don't need to do that. >> Why would you do that? Whiz. >> that dude's jacked. You ever see what. Whiz looks like? >> He got really into Muay Thai like like. heavily. So he brings the guy with him. everywhere he goes and hits pads. He's. [ __ ] ripped, dude. I mean, like a 10.

pack. It's crazy. He looks [ __ ]. great. And his technique looks pretty. solid. >> Just gets high, kick [ __ ] How fun is. that? What a life. >> Well, there's a thing about when you're. high, you feel your muscles more. Like. you feel like the little fibers, >> you know, instead of it being a blunt. thing, it's like you have access to all. the fibers. >> Yeah. And it's also you like um. >> with jiu-jitsu specifically, you you get. into like a flow state where you close. your eyes and you're just [ __ ]. feeling things and it's like I think. that can actually help it. >> Um. >> I think it's a performance enhancer. I.

really do. I always felt like my. jiu-jitsu game was 10% better if I was. high. >> Really? >> Yeah. No [ __ ] Yeah. I've really. felt that. >> I think Eddie would agree with that, too. I think a lot of people agree with. that. >> Yeah. >> You know, I think. >> same thing with comedy. It's like it. it's it can it can be. >> it can be. I think if you're getting. high every day and then if you switch it. up then it's a performance enhancer. Like being right now being completely. sober like I feel like I'm on a roller. roll. Like I feel like I'm completely. locked in in a different way. >> Um whereas like you and then I'll stop.

smoking weed for 6 months then I'll go. back to it. I'm like oh I've never been. more creative. It's just I think it's. just changing your mindset in whatever. way you can do that. Yeah. >> That's why people are so locked in and. they're like. >> having the same opinions their entire. lives. It's like somebody called me out. on Twitter today. They were like, "Dude, you flip-flop constantly on things." I. was like, "You mean I've grown? >> You've been watching me for 15 years on. podcast. I'm now. >> listen flipflop. [laughter] I'm Captain. Flip-flop." And then I just don't think. you should be married to your ideas. I. think the real problem is once you say. something and then you have to defend it.

and then once you find out that it's. wrong, you you [ __ ] panic and then. you double down and then you try to. defend it in some weird [ __ ] circular. logic way. >> And you'll get there. You'll probably, if you're smart enough, guys will just. figure out a way to ask backwards their. logic. But every once in a while, it's. so nice to go, "Oh, dude, I was. completely wrong about that.". >> See, you win any argument with a girl. >> In this world, the world that you and I. are in, we have conversations publicly. It's. >> right. And that's what's something that.

a lot of people don't do. >> So, if you have conversations publicly, then the the whole world can essentially. go, "No, you're wrong." Yeah. >> You know, which is very valuable. very. valuable for be being able to formulate. opinions. Most people don't [ __ ] have. that, dude. So, most people, they just. like if they're wrong about something. and they've said it publicly and shamed. people, you know, you better do this. because of that and this and they're. wrong. Once they find out they're wrong, they [ __ ] panic and there's not much. you can do about it. Like, you're just.

wrong. And the only thing you could do. if you want to keep any credibility and. say says this is what I thought and this. is why I thought it, but I don't think. that anymore. And I was wrong. Yeah, >> I [ __ ] that up. But this new. information I want you to have, too, cuz. this is why I'm tell you why I thought. what I thought and why it changed. >> Yeah, I mean, >> be able to do that. >> I think it's just a weird thing in. society. People will not. They will. >> People want to pretend they're smarter. than they are. That's the thing, man. Everybody wants to pretend they're. [ __ ] smarter than they are. We're all. talking monkeys.

>> Yeah, we're idiots. >> All of us. Every [ __ ] person alive is. a talking monkey. So, the internet is. the best and the worst thing that's ever. happened cuz now all the monkeys can. scream. Everybody can get mad. Everybody can. complain. But it's also great. >> And you used to have time to reflect. You said so what would happen is. something would happen, right? Whatever. it is, some big event, right? And it. happens on Friday, right? Like I don't. have I I got to sit on this until. Monday. I'll talk to my my wife or some. friends at home, but it's like until I. get to work on Monday, I can't. >> spout these ideas and my opinions. And.

you kind of reflect on it. You sit on. you're on the toilet taking a [ __ ]. thinking about things. We don't have. that anymore. It's just all distraction. constantly. And it's like just I I mean. the amount like I the only time I ever. like reflect is if I'm working out or. I'm sitting in the steam room got to put. the phone away. You literally can't do. anything, right? >> Um but even you're taking a [ __ ] dude. Back in the day, taking a [ __ ] used to. be like the best thinking time. [laughter]. >> People like magazines. >> Yeah. >> You know, you sit there reading Life. magazine while you're taking a dump. >> What you just said was like very.

important. this what you just so what. we're talking about is people being able. to talk about things. Now imagine what. life was like cuz we both How old are. you? >> 44. >> Okay. So you lived it a little bit but I. really lived it where there was no. internet. And if there was no internet, you couldn't talk to anything about. anybody about anybody about anything. because everything that came up in the. news, like you'd see it on the news, you. go, "What is going on?" You get like. this quick snippet and then you'd have.

to go to a newspaper and you'd read the. newspaper and go, "What the [ __ ] are we. doing in Venezuela?". >> And at this point, 99% of people are. already out. Even right there, that. people like, "Yeah, I'm not going to the. library. I'm not getting a newspaper.". >> Guy who goes to work and you know, how. much time do you have to talk to people. about things? You have stuff to do. You. can't be the guy that corners people. when they're getting coffee. Do you hear. what we're doing in Nicaragua? [laughter] So, we're selling cocaine in. Los Angeles. The CIA is selling cocaine in Los. Angeles to fund the Contra versus the. Sandinistas in Nicaragua. Did you know.

that? You're like, >> uh, I have work to do. [laughter]. This episode is brought to you by. Squarespace. My own website, joe. roan.com, is powered by Squarespace. So, I'm not just saying this. I actually use. the thing. If you've got a business, a. podcast, you're selling something, you're doing a newsletter, whatever it. is, Squarespace gives you everything you. need. You can grab your domain, build. the site, showcase your stuff, take. payments, all of it. No messing around.

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you up. Yeah. >> Do you know that? You had to have an FCC. license. >> What was that movie? >> Yeah. Christian Slater. >> Christian Slater. Pump up the volume. >> Pop up the volume. >> Pop up the volume. what he was doing. >> He was podcasting from a car before. there was podcast. >> This is 1990. They were chasing him down. and they were trying to arrest him. He. was the rebel. And wasn't he saying like. >> 17. >> some stuff like go out there and live. your life or something? Like what was he. saying? Did he have like a pump you up. speech? Everybody was listening to this. >> It wasn't even that controversial like. you know the man, you know.

>> Yeah. What was he saying? Like he's he's. ranting. It's like low-level podcasting. But he might be the first podcast. >> Maybe. >> No. I'm I'm like, "No bullshit.". >> Yeah. >> Like that idea in that movie might have. been, you know, cuz it's always like one. idea builds on and then new inventions. and then builds on. Yeah. >> The one idea is this sexy rebel who's. out there yelling, "Fuck the man." And. he's, you know, like a van running from. the cops because he's gonna put him in a.

cage because he made his own radio. station. >> That's wild. >> And that's what we're doing right now. >> Yeah. There was uh Yeah. Yeah, I mean I. I lived pre- internet, you know, and. internet sort of high school, 9th grade. or so. That's when it started popping. off. >> Podcasts show you straight up that the. free market is much better than than. regulations by the government. >> because you're never going to get this. kind of a show if the government gets to. regulate you and they tell you you can't. swear, they can't tell you you can't be.

obscene, there's certain things you. can't say. Well, now it's just now it's. just YouTube and Google that'll tell you. that. >> But they did [laughter] they but they. don't do it as much. >> No, not nowhere near as much. But it's. the new way to sort of combat that is. demonetization. Like, >> right. But here's the thing. The market. dictates that too because if if someone. else comes along and says we're not. going to do that. So there's a reason. why YouTube is like loosened up some of. its content restriction. >> Yeah. Cuz Rumble came out, Kick came. out. >> Yes. Also, they were wrong. Like a lot.

of the restrictions were during CO and. they were wrong. They were they were. telling people if you bring up the lab. leak theory we'll kick you off of. YouTube. >> Yeah. A lot of people a lot of people. got completely lost their channels like. lost their way to make money. >> You could say the earth is flat. >> There's [ __ ] millions. There's. billions of flat earth videos out there. You could say Bigfoot raped my mom. You. know, you could say anything. >> Yeah. >> But if you said that it might have come. from a lab, [laughter]. >> you would get kicked off of YouTube. >> Yeah. It's so funny. We found out that's. exactly what happened. But the market.

sort of shifted and that's how Rumble. started getting bigger. Rumble got. bigger specifically because of the fact. there was push back on YouTube because. they literally won't even let Nick. Fuentes on YouTube. >> and he's on Rumble and he's like their. number one guy. >> He's killing it on Rumble. >> See, that's the thing. It's like if you. hold something back, you're just going. to make another version of it that. opposes it and they're going to have. more energy to fight against you because. you've. >> you've stopped the truth. >> Yeah. You've stopped stopped the truth.

about like not like about petty things. about really important things like how a. [ __ ] disease went through the whole. world. You're literally stopping people. from examining the truth which is weird. >> Yeah, there was. >> it's not good. That's real scary. >> That was a scary time just like in. general to like it was it was a great. time for podcasting. Podcasting blew up. during co that was it was huge. >> Everyone just stayed at home. Everyone. was like what are we going to do? We. have nothing else to do except sit on. the internet and listen to podcasts. Yeah. >> Um but yeah, it was like uh just a.

weird, you know, uncertain time. Even. like physically in life, it was. uncertain and then you go on the. internet and it's like, oh, I could just. like lose everything. They could just. just take it away like that. All these. platforms. This is why I start this why. I started I'm I do all of my own things. specifically because I am terrified that. my things are going to be taken away. from me. >> Yeah. >> So, I have my own platforms, my own. festival. >> Well, you were really smart about that. early on with Gas Digital. Such a good. idea, dude. Such a good idea. And it's. also like your fan base. Your fan base. is so loyal and so rabid.

>> Yeah. >> You know, because they're sign they're. like invested financially. >> Oh yeah. >> And it's there. It's a better. relationship honestly in a lot of ways. >> Well, what's funny is when we started. it, it wasn't. >> it wasn't even completely necessary. What's funny is Patreon hadn't even. didn't it existed, but it was like, you. know, guitar players asking for tips. There was nobody podcasting on Patreon. We started the platform uncensored ad. free for, you know, behind a payw wall. We were unique. There was really no. Anthony Kumia did it. There was a couple. people that were doing their thing. >> and Anthony [clears throat] did it. specifically because he was fired from.

XM. >> Yeah. And he had to. >> He had to. >> Um but we did and it wasn't even like it. wasn't crazy back then. Um but the way. everything became censored and you know. there's all these ads on YouTube. There's so much. It's feels so like um. it feels commercial. It feels like. you're watching. >> TV in the late 90s when you're watching. YouTube now. Now more than ever there's. a need for an uncensored adree platform. and there's not many of them. >> No 100%. And and I think you did the. smartest thing by doing that. And so. here's the argument. The argument is. like.

that if it's everywhere, like if it's on. YouTube and it's on Spotify, it's on. everywhere, then there's more potential. for growth because it's easier to. access. That is true. And it's also it's. way easier to promote because people can. just send each other like it's natural. >> The algorithms will push it, which is. >> Yeah, there's that, but there's also. sharing. Like if I have if someone has. got a good podcast, I'll share it with. my friends. you got to listen. So that you can't do that if it's a paid. platform. So like you'd have to get.

someone to sign up. >> What's funny is we we were so early on a. lot of these things. I I give myself a. lot of credit here because we like. before you could screen record on your. phone. >> We had in our app, we had a tool where. you can clip clips to share them to. social media. So you could do it was. like limited to like two or three clips. per episode. >> Oh, that's great. And is it um. >> It never worked really. But. >> was there a time limit on the clips? >> Like a minute or two? Oh, that's a. problem. That's a problem. Yeah, >> because like you want like at least. eight. >> Yeah. >> You know, because like especially if.

there's a funny back and forth between. you guys, like if you're doing Legions. of Skanks and you guys are going off. about something. Yeah. >> You need a little more than a couple of. minutes. Got to sink your teeth into it. >> Yeah. [clears throat] Otherwise, that's. the best way to take things out of. context, too. [laughter]. >> You're telling me, >> boy, people love doing that. >> Yeah. >> They love doing that. But it's also it's. like, what are you going to ask. everybody to listen to 3 hours of a. podcast? >> It's crazy. You got to expect that. things are going to get taken out of. context. It's part of the game, you. know. It's part of the thing we do. >> Yeah. I um And no, nobody really wants a.

context. Even when they find out the. context, they they've been like, "Well, I already we were saying before, I've. moved on from that opinion. >> Tomorrow it's another another day.". >> You know, nobody really cares about. anything to be honest with you. It's. like the way that the internet has. turned people into like just like. whatever's in front of them, that's what. they care about. I mean, the the amount. of things that were such a big deal a. month ago. I mean, ICE was such a huge. deal two months ago. >> We haven't heard anything about ICE. since then. They, you know, it was the.

Ukraine. What happened to Ukraine? That. war is still going on. I believe nobody. [snorts] gives a [ __ ]. >> Still going on. It's just it's not sexy. right now. You know, it's like Law and. Order, Special Victims Unit, you know, season 50. >> Yeah. >> It's like, okay. [laughter]. >> You know what I mean? >> We've seen every angle on rape already. It's like it's still going to be a big. show, you know? It's still important. It's top 10, but it's, you know what I'm. saying? Like it's not the number one. thing that we're concerned with. Where. whereas when it popped off, when Russia. invaded, it was like the end of the.

world. >> Yeah. >> And then there was people I literally. heard people saying that Ukraine should. have never given up its nukes. And I was. like, okay, I could see what you're. saying. I could see what you're saying. Like if they had nukes, Russia probably. wouldn't invade him. But. but ultimately that means we're. threatening you with nukes. >> That's the scariest thing ever. >> That's [ __ ] crazy. The whole thing's. crazy. But it's also it's like why did. this happen? Did. >> you know pushing arms closer and closer. to Russia have no impact on this?

>> Nobody can hit Texas or New York though, right? Like Hawaii's [ __ ]. >> Oh, they could hit New York. What do you. mean? >> They could hit New York. >> Oh, yeah. They could hit New York. >> You think so? With a nuke? >> Yeah, 100%. >> I read something a while ago that they. could only reach Hawaii or I guess it. wasn't it wasn't anyone. It was um. who was it? Was it Russia or China or. something? One of them. They could only. hit Hawaii. I had a bit about it in my. act and I was like we had a guy on that. was talking about back engineering UFO. technology and that they had this idea.

of using it to what they would call an. instantaneous. delivery system of a nuclear bomb. because the way these things supposedly. can travel. Now, I'm a [ __ ] so I don't. understand anything about gravity, but. what they were explaining is that if. these crafts work in a way that has no. normal kind of propulsion, we think of. propulsion as like a jet. The fire goes.

out the back and the jet goes forward. really fast because of that, right? What. they're saying is these beings from. wherever the [ __ ] they are with when. these people that have back engineered. their crafts, the way they move is not. by propulsion. It's by bending space and. time. It's by doing something to the. gravity around it or the the the actual. space of the universe around it where it. can go to another place like. instantaneously. >> So, it's not like it flies. It's like it.

just [ __ ] zips over to another part. of the universe and they can do it like. that tic tac one that they they got on. radar. They got it on the visuals like. two different fighter pilots saw it and. talked about it. They have video of it. This [ __ ] thing went from more than. 50,000 ft above sea level to sea level. in 1 second. Less than a second. So it's. like beep beep beep radar. It went from. 50,000 ft to that. So if you could do. that with a bomb, you could essentially.

instantaneously detonate Moscow. >> Wow. >> If that's a real technology. So this is. probably why these [ __ ] are hiding. all this UFO information. Yeah. >> It's cuz these [ __ ] had probably. were using the they were like, "Yeah, we. could travel anywhere in the universe or. >> we could blow up China without. [laughter] them even knowing it's. happening. We could assure that we'll. win a nuclear war." Yeah. Anybody would. have that technology, the ability to put. something somewhere instantly and you. put a bomb in it. That's crazy.

>> Yeah. I. >> That might be what all this UFO [ __ ]. is about. >> Yeah. I mean the who knows who knows. what's going I mean like like obviously. there's something going on, right? Obvious like it's I I think there's. smoke there's fire. There's too much. >> You've seen these stories about all. these scientists that are getting. whacked. >> No. >> Yeah. There scientists that have gotten. whacked in or missing and a and a couple. of generals as well that's all connected. somehow or another to UFO technology and. anti-gravity technology and nuclear.

scientists and there's a bunch of. stories that I've read about this and. some of them are like this is like. purely exaggerated and a lot of people. are it's just they're taking that this. guy committed suicide and he worked on. that and this guy went missing and he. worked on that but it's just. coincidence, >> right? And then there's other people. that go, "No, no, no, no. This is. there's too many people." So now the. White House has commented on it. So. they're doing an investigation on this, >> which makes me think hopefully somebody.

who's really [ __ ] smart has looked at. this information and said, "There's. something there." Like what these people. were working on was very extraordinary. and could disrupt a market or could be. something that could be used in a weapon. that would destroy another country and. so the other country sabotages it by. killing scientists. That's [ __ ] that we. would do. >> Think how little we know. Like the. amount of like. >> Yeah. >> like you and I just human just like. Americans just just the general. population like the amount of there's.

probably the craziest technology ever. that the government has their hands on. right now. It's like we use AI tools and. it's like I can imagine the AI that the. government currently has, right? And. that's why that'll never disappear. It's. because all of the governments are just. sort of at a race to see who can. implement the strongest AI. So I I can't. even imagine how crazy it is. There was one lady that was uh that went. missing and there's a weird video of her. because it seems like she's drunk and. she's like talking about like how you.

know this technology that it's real but. every time they that anybody gets close. to it, people stop it. And this lady has. gone missing as well. So it seems like. she might have had a couple of drinks or. something and then started ranting about. this in some weird video call. >> Yeah. But listen, if I had that. information and I thought that people. were trying to kill me because I knew. about anti-gravity technology and I. literally thought like I'm in a Russell. Crow movie and someone's trying to. [ __ ] whack me, I'd [snorts] probably. get drunk too. >> Yeah. >> Like what are you going to do? >> But she she went missing though.

>> I was talking to two. uh nuclear scientists after my show. Just these two like it was a couple. They were like straight up nuclear. scientists. It was Tacoma or Spokane. whatever this near that like there's a. huge like it's like a nuclear town. like. everyone works in like nuclear science. in this entire town. >> Jesus. >> And uh he was like they were like so. into telling me about like not not too. much, not too indepth, but he was like, you know, I work like 100 ft below the. ground. It was like super top secret.

And um he was like I started asking. questions. He was like, "No, I can't. answer that." He was like, "They've. definitely tapped our phones. Are you. out of your mind? Do you think they're. like not just listening to what we're. saying to people?" And I was just like, "Fucking godamn dude. I think they're. listening to everything everybody's. saying all the time. It's all getting. stored. >> Yeah. I think it just gets stored. I. don't think it's like someone's. listening where they can just. >> know every like they have a person with. a [ __ ] earphone on listening to. everything you say. Oh, write it down. He said this. >> I think probably high government.

officials. They probably do. >> probably. But now with [clears throat]. AI, all they would have to do is record. everybody's phone all the time and then. use AI to search all the transcripts and. then find an audio recording of you. saying this or you saying that. >> We're probably three years away from. them being able to get everything we've. ever done on the internet. >> Yeah. But but not just that, there's. also AI which could take that and then. have you make phone calls to people that. you don't really make. >> Yeah. So you could call up one of your. friends and ask them to meet you.

somewhere with a bag of heroin and they. would all, you know, they would know. It. would like literally you could use it to. set people up. You could use it to get. people upset about something. You could. have the AI have a [ __ ] conversation. with them. >> I mean, I've been listening AI Joe Rogan. ads on the internet for about a year now. where they just take your voice and they. advertise products because you have such. a recognizable voice. >> That's pretty ridiculous, right? A lot. of people go, "Do you use that?" I go, "No, it's AI." But the thing is it's. like they can have it talk to you now.

So it sounds like you. >> Yeah. >> You could have a conversation with you. Like you could AI Lewis J. Gomez. You. could talk to Louisis J. Gomez and it. would be like you talking to yourself. You'd probably lose your mind if you. were skeptical. >> I did something really dark and sad one. day. I was super high. And my mom died. when I was 22 years old. And then I I. went I prompted chat GPT. I told I told. a bunch of information about my mom and. I was like I want to have a conversation. with my mom on the other side about like. what's going on in my life and my son.

and asked me questions and I was like it. was it got very like I got really. emotional way more than you would think. Like I was it was kind of just a dumb. thing. I was stunned. I was like let's. see where this goes. I was I felt like I. was talking to my mom at the end of it. >> It was [ __ ] really. >> That's so crazy. >> Yeah. Really? >> Here's the thing. If it gets to be a. super intelligence, they program a super. intelligence to behave exactly and talk. exactly like your mom. and then you had conversations with her. like it knows her voice. >> Yeah, that would be such a [ __ ] If.

you're schizophrenic and that starts. happening, that would be the trip. That. would be that would be the that would be. bing, [laughter] we blew the last fuse. >> Yeah, that's it, dude. >> That would be it. >> Well, for us that's what they're doing. >> for for you and me, right? who we have I. mean thousands and thousands of hours. recorded, right? >> Oh yeah, they could have us say. anything. >> Well, not only just say anything like. when I die, I'm assuming the technology, forget when I die, like forget 40 years. from now. Like in the next few years, they can just take every opinion I've.

had, the way I speak, my thoughts, everything. And then they can use AI to. not only just replicate what I do, but. go like, well, what would he likely. think, what would he likely say? if you. sort of put all that data in and then. eventually it's like a little [ __ ]. box sitting on the table that my son. talks to. His dad never dies. His dad's. always there. I think that will be a. thing that regularly is happening. You. you. >> and I don't know if it's like uploading. the consciousness or if it's the AI. replicating your consciousness. I think. they've talked about that for a long. time, but that I think will happen. unquestionably.

>> No doubt. >> Yeah. >> And soon. >> Very soon. >> Well, the AI that they have now, like if. you put on those meta glasses, have you. [ __ ] with that? the VR goggles. >> Uh, yeah, >> they're pretty [ __ ]. >> I mean, I just jerk off. That's it. I. just. >> giant vaginas. >> Well, not No, it's not even a It's um. >> If you have porn with VR, it must be. insane. >> Oh, it's insane. It is insane. >> Yeah, >> I can't watch regular porn anymore. >> That way. Made [laughter] me nervous. Creepy. >> I was looking this up just to see if it. was still a thing. This is a William.

Shatner AI. He's sitting here waiting. for us to ask him a question. >> and he'll just answer it in his voice. >> It's him. He sat there and recorded a. bunch of stuff a couple years ago for. this. >> Um, I don't [snorts] know how well it. works, but. >> Well, ask him this. >> This is a little different though. This. isn't So, >> I mean, this is just the beginning, though. Like, this is. >> this is the beginning of it. So, once. they But they once they turn they really. turn the AI on this, it'll be like it'll. be a better William Shatner. >> I mean, it looks uh what? Let's ask him. one random question. H.

um what didn't he have like a make out. session with a green lady on in Star. Trek? >> I don't know. What was it? >> I think he did. I think there was like. some weird. >> racial push back. There was some weird. pu Oh, he kissed Ohura. There was He did. make out with an alien. No, no, no. >> He did make out with an alien, right? I'm pretty sure he kissed like a a green. lady or something, but he also kissed. Lieutenant O'Hora, who was a black lady.

And during the time where they did Star. Trek, I think this was very. controversial. That's it. So that was in. 1968. and this was very controversial that a. white man and a black and by the way, she was beautiful. That lady that played. Aurora, she's beautiful. And they. thought it was weird. They thought it. was offensive. I mean, it was like it. was a big thing. >> Yeah. >> In like the public. I was too young. Obviously, I was one years old. But I do.

remember this story. >> Remember there was that movie uh Jungle. Fever? It was an entire movie. The. entire premise of the movie was it's. >> a black guy and a white girl. [laughter]. >> Interracial couple. That's a movie. That's it. >> Okay. What is it called? Was the episode. called? Plato's stepchildren season 3. episode 10 November 22nd 1968. Wow. Oh, played by um Nishelle Nichols and.

Captain Kirk, William Shackner. Episode. often cited incorrectly as the first. interracial kiss on television. It was. however the first instance in which a. kiss between a black person and a white. person on US television was ever. scripted. as an earlier kiss on Moving. with Nancy was unscrew. What the [ __ ] is. Moving with Nancy? What is that? >> Nancy Sinatra special or something? >> Nancy kissed a black guy on TV. Is that. what they're saying? >> That's pissing me off now. I don't know. why. [laughter]. >> I bet she did it just to piss off Frank.

>> Her father was not okay with that. >> I bet she did it just to piss off Frank. >> Let me check. >> Yeah, find out what she did. What the. [ __ ] [laughter] happened? >> Like a variety show. >> So, was it like her and just a singer or. something? Was it a show where they. would sing each other? What happened. here? >> Sammy Davis Jr. >> Oh, Sammy Davis Jr. kissed her. Oh, that's. >> song and dance. >> That's kind of with her. >> That's what it says. They probably look. it up. >> But, but is that it says an interracial.

kiss between. >> between Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr.? >> Oh, boy. He kissed he passionately. kissed his friend's daughter. >> Oh, yeah. Bro, those people were freaks. back then. >> That's hot. >> They were freaks. >> This is it. >> That brat pack. That rat pack. Those. guys were animals. Look at that. Oh, that's on the cheek, bro. He kissed her. on the cheek. Zoom in on that. That's. outrageous. That's a nice friendly kiss. That's not a passionately kissed. Let me. see that. Close in on her. Yeah, he.

kissed her on the cheek. Don't you. think? >> It looks like the cheek. >> It looks like right here. >> Yeah. A little side side of the. >> a little That's like a sweet thing. >> Yeah. Italian men do that to each other. >> Yeah, that's not a that's not a kiss on. the lips. >> Yeah, >> that doesn't count. I say Star Trek's. the first cuz that was like let's get. down. >> It's so nuts, dude. Yeah. I mean, my uh. my mom my mom was white and my dad was. like Afro Latino, like darkkinned like. uh he looked black, like straight he.

looked like Easy E. I was just going to. show you a picture of my dad. It's. crazy. [laughter]. He looks straight up like Easy E. >> Um and it's like Yeah. I mean that even. in the ' 80s growing up that was kind of. like it was weird. I remember the first. time I saw an interracial couple in high. school. I'm 44. I'm not I'm not that. old. But like it was weird. I remember. just seeing like in like the 10th grade. this like hot white chick started dating. this like football player black kid. It. wasn't that regular where I grew and I. grew up an hour outside of New York. City. >> Yeah. And it it was controversial. It. would open you up to all sorts of like.

you get yelled at by people, you get. attacked. There's a lot of people that. they dealt with a lot of [ __ ] back then, man. >> Yeah. Well, racism is back. Don't worry. [laughter]. >> It kind of never went away. But it's it. comes in waves of encouragement where. people people think like it's okay. It's. okay to be racist. It's okay to be this, to be that. >> It was a weird It was a weird thing. where it's like a lot of us were just. being ironic and funny for a while. You. make racial jokes, you make jokes about.

anything like that. I I think you could. be make a joke about anything. It's a. comedian's job. Um, and then it like. shifted once like social media became so. like big and everyone's opinion. You can. anonymously just say whatever you want. Dude, if you wanted to you want to say. something racist anonymously, you had to. write it on a bathroom wall. >> You have to be like, I hate [laughter]. nwords on the wall in a marker. >> And then somebody else responds to it. underneath it and they're like, well, I. hate you cracker. And then it goes it. >> That was always fun. Like bathroom walls. were fun. Get a phone number. Call this.

number. You give your ex-girlfriend's. phone number on the wall. >> Yeah, of course. >> Yeah. Those those are the days. >> The original doxing. >> Well, also those like the the that's the. original message board. >> Yeah. [laughter]. It's the original YouTube comments, >> right? That's the original comments on. an ex post is the bathroom wall. >> That's it. And that's the only thing. that's as far as it can go was maybe 12. people a day would see your [ __ ]. anonymously. But it felt so good just n. [clears throat] I. >> I can't remember any interracial uh in.

high school. >> I can't remember any of them. Oh no, one. I do remember one. But I do. remember there's a lot of push back, man. Like a lot of people were like. openly racist about it. >> Yeah, >> it's uh eventually has to go away, but. it's like it's going away in waves. Like. it used to be normal. Like everybody was. racist. The whole world was racist. I. think everyone is bigoted. >> It's a little different than a little. different than racist, right? >> Well, everyone was tribal, right? Like.

you could only trust the 150 people that. you lived with. You could barely trust. them. You could barely trust them. They. were probably trying to be the tribal. chief and [ __ ] people over and [ __ ] the. chief's wife. That shit's always gone. on. But for sure, if there was a group. that you didn't know and they showed up, they were there to kill you. [laughter]. >> Yes. >> 100%. Yes. A bunch of guys show up, there's 15 guys. They show up, but. you're they're trying to kill you. >> Well, also pre- internet, you you had to. coexist, right? You had to the only. people you can communicate with. You go.

to the grocery store, it's an Indian guy. or a black guy or a Puerto Rican guy. It's like, "No, I got to buy a tomato. So, I'm we're just going to do what we. need. I'm going to give you my dollar. You're going to give me a tomato and I'm. going to say, >> but this is an America in a city in the. 20th century and then the 21st century.". What I'm saying is we're hardwired for. the olden days. Right. >> This is why it's so easy to get people. to join a team, whether it be a Democrat. or be a Republican or MAGA or whatever. the [ __ ] it is. It's so easy because. people are programmed to be in tribes,

>> right? Yeah. And they want an identity. >> Yeah. It's it's easier. >> There's an enemy. They want an enemy, too. >> Yep. You have a You feel like you're on. a side. You feel You don't really have. to do much thinking. >> Exactly. >> Like whatever Whatever they say, I agree. with. >> gives you comfort that you you're. surrounded by other people. I used to. think that when I was young when I would. watch like religious preachers on. television, I was watching those like. these Islamic guys and they were talking. about Islam and the way the certainty in. the fact that what they were saying was.

true. Like the way they were saying like. all these other religions mean nothing. because Islam is the truth. And they. were like, "Yep.". >> They're like they believed it. Like I'm. like it must feel great. >> to believe something 100% like that. You. have a bunch of other people around you. that also believe it. >> 100% know ifs or buts. And we've all The. reality is no one knows about anything. until you experience it. >> Yeah. >> So, you don't really know what's going.

to happen in heaven. If heaven's real, you don't know any of that. No. >> But you're so convinced. >> And my question is by what? >> I wish I had any sort of spiritual. faith. >> That's what I keep saying. come up with. a good cult. I'll join it. >> Doggy, I I just can't I what since I was. a little kid, I remember just being a. little kid and think having the thought. God's not real and then trying cuz I was. raised Catholic just suppressing it. being like I can't think that I'm going. to burn in hell if I even think the idea. that God isn't real. It's like a what a.

weird psychotic thing to do to like a. 5-year-old kid. Yeah. you know, and um. yeah, it's like uh yeah, you you sort of. like that the idea of faith, it it. actually seems like really like kind of. freeing. Like the idea of like, dude, I'm going to die and I'm going to go to. the kingdom of heaven and I'm going to. experience everything that I've ever. wanted. I mean, that sounds incredible. I it's for me it's like I feel like I'm. counting down until I'm going to sleep. forever. Like I have nothing after I. really don't believe in any of that. when people get into like these heated. passionate like debates about certain.

things like abortion is a great topic um. for this concept when you're trying to. convince somebody that's religious like. to be pro-life you're like you don't. understand what's going on there dude. they believe you're murdering a baby. you're not going to convince somebody. that like oh well let me let me let me. try to break this down for you right now. let me try to give you a different angle. on this no they they believe that that's. a life at conception they believe it's a. soul they really [ __ ] believe that. deep down. >> and that is like like I kind of go like. I respect that. Like I'm not going to. like I I'm pro-life, right? I I was.

raised by by women and I just kind of. grew up in New York. We always sort of. had that sensibility. >> Do you mean pro-choice? Is that what you. >> I'm sorry. I'm pro-choice. I apologize. Um but when I my son was born or even. when I first saw the heartbeat, I. remember I was like that's a life right. there. The heartbeat that 6 weeks. whatever it was, I was like that's a. [ __ ] life right there. But when. you're dealing with religious people who. believe that that's a soul and that that. it's like the second it's conceived, >> you're trying to convince them that it's. okay to kill a baby. >> and it's never going to happen. >> Yeah. No, it's never going to happen.

And I don't know who's right. That's the. real problem. Like for convenience sake. and for living your life on your own. terms sake. And the see my take on it is. first of all. I'm not a woman and if you're talking. about this and there's no chance of you. ever getting pregnant that's a weird. thing because you like conceptually yeah. that's a life no doubt I mean not even. conceptually objectively that's a life. it's going to become a human.

>> but who who like who am I to say. especially in cases of like incest and. rape and you know Crazy [ __ ] Who am I. to say that you have to raise that kid? That you have to that that life has to. you have to change your body for the. next 9 months. Maybe ir irrevocably. I. mean, maybe it'll just change your body. forever. Maybe you'll have stretch marks. forever. >> Oh, yeah. >> Because of this, because of this. horrible thing that happened to you. Because everybody says that this life is. precious. Like. >> every time you got to feed at breakfast,

you got to [ __ ]. >> If that was for men, if men got. pregnant, [laughter]. abortion would be at gas stations. fill. it up and take it out. It would be. There's not a [ __ ] chance in hell it. would be. >> That's a bit. >> There's not a chance in hell that it. would be a debate. >> Yeah. >> It wouldn't be a debate. If men make the. laws and men could get pregnant, men. would have abortions everywhere. >> Yeah. >> There's no [ __ ] chance you'd be able. to tell another man that he's going to. have to keep a baby. >> No. Yeah. It's it's it's very complex.

And I understand both sides of it, you. know? I really do. I when people say. that's a life you can't it's like I'm. like I really get that and when people. go like it's a woman's body and sort of. right to choose if she wants to eject. this from her body before a certain. time. >> Um. >> it's the weird thing is like at what. point in time like could you stop it. when it's a clump of cells? Can you stop. it when it's almost a fetus? You know. what I mean? Like it gets it's it's such. a human problem in that there's no. it's it's a weird [ __ ] sloppy.

>> I think when it grow when it grows a. nose. Yeah. Before it hits before it. grows a nose or or fingers. >> It could be a kid. It's going to be a. kid that maybe wins an Olympic gold. medal. >> If it's got web fingers still, >> it could be a kid that is Sabrina. Carpenter and is on stage in front of. all those people. You know what I mean? That's the weird thing about life. >> It could be somebody that changes the. world. >> It could be. >> Literally. Yeah. Yeah. If you look at. like child development like um. monthtomonth, I mean, when my when I my. son was being born, I was like. obsessively like looking at it. It. starts looking like a baby way earlier. than you think. And the problem is you.

can still abort it when it looks like a. [ __ ] baby. And that's it's just a. >> Oh, you could abort it when it is a. baby. Oh, yeah. In certain cases. >> Well, yeah. If it's like medically. >> I knew a guy his girlfriend had a late. term abortion and it was horrible. >> Jesus. >> Horrible to know that like she was. showing it was. >> Well, there was that one. >> This is in the '9s. There was a one. video that went viral a while ago and it. was like they were talking to somebody. in an abortion clinic with like a hidden. cell phone camera and they were like, "Well, what happens if you abort the.

fetus? You remove the fetus and it's. still alive like on the table.". >> Yeah. >> Um they and they were like, "Well, we. would have to at least extinguish life. or something like that." It was like. pretty [ __ ] crazy. >> Yeah. >> It's like so when the baby's out, you're. going to kill the that you're just going. to kill. It's call it what it is. You're. going to kill a baby. It's bonkers. And that's why like you could understand. why Christians would think that's. demonic. >> Yeah. >> Anyone anyone would think that's. demonic. >> You could totally understand that. And. to ignore that and throw it into this.

No, but I you know I believe in the. woman's right to choose. >> Okay. Me too. But what's that? >> Yeah. >> Like what are we saying here? Like. you're going to just kill the baby when. it's alive outside the womb. Is it. viable? Like could it be grow up and. become one of your friends? Like what are we doing? >> Maybe. >> You know what I'm saying? Could it could. that baby grow up. >> and just live? >> Yeah. And just have a wonderful life and. have a great job. It's [ __ ] weird, man. Because like what is life and why?

It's very precious to us because if we. don't have it, then we don't have a say. in what's going on. But we're really. just a [ __ ] bunch of atoms and. particles and molecules and everything. spinning around at a different. frequency. That's what we really are. Your mushrooms are kicking in, Joe. >> They're not [laughter] even just I'm. just saying like we're so obsessed with. life. >> Yeah. >> And that's why this is such a. fascinating conversation. It's also a. fascinating conversation cuz men can't. get pregnant. >> It's a weird. >> Well, I think they can, right? They can.

carry the baby. We can't get pregnant, but I think you could. >> Well, they're talking to transmitter. talking about getting uteruses implanted. in their body and then getting pregnant. and having an abortion. I want to be the. first person to do that, [laughter]. >> which just shows you how is really. healthy. That's pretty hilarious. [laughter]. >> Got it. >> It would be a good bit. It' be something. Steo would do. >> It really would be. [laughter]. I'm gonna put a baby in a board it. How. [ __ ] great is that? That's funny. >> Yeah. He would do it if there wouldn't. be any social push back. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> That That one's, you know, tough.

>> A little bit of a tough one. >> He almost got tit implants. >> I know. He told me that. >> That's crazy. >> It's nuts. >> Don't do that. >> Yeah. >> Ouch. You going to get your chest carved. open. >> You get a dick tattooed in his face. >> Yes. He's insane. >> Right over his eyebrow. >> He's a lunatic. It took me like a few. seconds to realize it was a dick, too. I. was like, "Okay." Last time I saw you, you didn't have that, right? >> Yeah. He's a He's a [ __ ] wild one. Um, >> that nuclear scientist thing or the UFO. scientist thing, is there anything to. that? Do we No. Why don't you uh throw that into our ad.

or uh sponsor Perplexity? >> What does it say? >> Uh, it's obviously an online link, >> right? But I mean, the White House is. investigating. >> that they're bringing it up. They're. investigated because so many people are. asking about it. >> Oh, that's it's that easy. [laughter]. >> Let's find out if Michelle Obama has a. dick. Can you imagine if the White House is. like we have an unprecedented number of. people asking this question? It's our. duty to do the work for the American.

people. >> They do. Why? They all had a like. security clearance and all happened to. work in similar fields like nuclear. fision fusion. >> Okay. So what ties the 11 together? Many. have recently clearances or indirect. access to s sensitive government work. often via NASA, the Department of. Energy's, nuclear labs, the Air Force, or major defense contractors. Their. deaths or disappearances occurred. between 2022 and early 2026, clustered. enough in time to draw political and.

media attention. The White House has. ordered agencies such as FBI, NASA, the. Department of Energy, and the Department. of War to perform link analysis to see. if there's any pattern beyond. coincidence. So, one of them was real weird where. there was like a lady who was hiking and. she was with a bunch of friends. Her. friend turned around and asked her a. question. She talked to her and then she. turned around again and she was gone. And they have no idea what happened.

They never found a body. They brought. the dogs in. The dogs couldn't find her. Just gone. >> That's it. >> But here's my question. If I was her and. I thought that they were trying to whack. me and I was going hiking with my. friends and I was at the back of the. line, that's where I'd be if I was going. to make a run for it, right? If I. thought all these people were bringing. me up there, these [ __ ] fellow. scientists to chuck me off the cliff. I. might be in the back and then I might,

if I'm paranoid, maybe I ate an edible. before I went on this hike to [laughter]. be a little closer to nature and I'd. look at that person in front of me. I'm. like, I'm going to wait until they turn. that right around that turn and I'm. [ __ ]. >> Homer Simpson into the bushes [laughter]. >> and then she just [ __ ] booked it down. that hill and hopped in her car, got a. Uber waiting for disappeared. case you're thinking of is Monica. Jasinto Raza, 60-year-old aerospace. engineer linked to NASA, JPL, and. Advanced Rocket Engine Materials. Research. She disappeared on June 22nd,

2025 while hiking in the Angeles. National Forest, Los Angeles County, on. a welltraveled trail. I know where that. place is. I've been to that spot. Reports say she was hiking with at least. one friend companion. The friend was. roughly 30 ft ahead, turned to check on. her, saw her smile, and waved that she. was fine. Then a short time later, looked back again, and she was gone. Despite intensive searches, no confirmed. trace of her has been found, and her.

case is now one of the central examples. of missing or dead scientist cluster. being reviewed by federal agencies. >> Yeah, that's weird. >> She disappeared. She She was like, "Fuck. She saw all these other scientists being. murdered and she was like, "I'm out.". >> Right. Cuz if you were a scientist, you'd probably be paying attention to. other scientists getting whacked. >> Oh yeah. On the same projects. >> Especially if somebody started talking. >> You're in an empty office. >> You're [laughter] in the You're in the. coffee station and someone's like, "Do. you hear what happened to Ted?" Ted's. dead. >> He [laughter] shot himself twice.

>> From long range. >> Wait a minute. Anti-gravity Ted. Anti-gravity Ted. He's dead. [laughter]. >> He killed He killed himself with a. sniper rifle. It was pretty crazy. >> Get the [ __ ] out of here. Yeah, >> I'm going hiking with Monica. I don't. [ __ ] trust Monica. >> [ __ ] that. >> Monica's trying to kill you. >> I don't trust. >> She's out there hiking and Monica turns. and waves at her. >> I don't trust hiking. She was probably. [ __ ] killed by a bear or a mountain. lion. >> You could get you could get got. >> That's crazy. I don't. >> My friend Cam, his um brother almost got.

killed by a mountain lion and had this. crazy story about it. And he's a like a. distance runner. He's one of those. ultramarathon guys. Yeah. and his. brother told this video about like what. had happened to him. He was running down. the road and it was like dusk out, like. starting to get dark and he saw these. eyes, these glowing eyes in the bushes. and he yelled at it cuz he thought it. was a coyote and it stands up and it's a. [ __ ] mountain lion. And so then it. starts chasing him and he goes, "I. couldn't have used pepper spray because. if I did, I would have sprayed myself.

cuz it was that close.". >> Wow. >> He goes, "I yelled at it. I kicked rocks. at it. It kept And he goes, "I just. ran." He goes, "I think the thing that. might have saved me was a bunch of dogs. were barking.". >> Wow. >> And it might have thought the dogs were. out there. >> You're not out running a mountain lion. >> No. >> No. >> It was It was running behind him, but. not like 100% committed to killing him. yet. >> Wow. That's scary. >> Yeah. Nature's [ __ ] scary. And people. like, "We need to make an overpass in.

Los Angeles near [laughter] these homes. so the mountain line can get across the. [ __ ] track." No. Any [ __ ] mountain. line that goes across the 405 should get. obliterated. That's That's nature. That's nature. Hey, you thought that. [ __ ] semi wasn't dangerous, you. [ __ ] cat. That's a [ __ ] cat. Yes, it is. that that cat probably his. brother [ __ ] his sister and that's. that's how he was born and now he's a. dumbass and he's supposed to get taken. out by a Subaru. >> Did you ever see that? They uh it was.

like all these inbredad tigers. >> Yeah. Oh, white tigers. >> Yeah, dude. And they were all like. [ __ ] goofy. >> They have one at the Austin Zoo. >> [ __ ] tigers. >> We went to visit the Austin Zoo and you. looked at them like, "Hey, [laughter]. >> their tongues are hanging out.". >> Yeah, they're goofy looking. A bunch of. those white ones [clears throat] are are. inbred because that's a weird like. genetic thing, I guess, to have a white. one. >> Cute, though. I I took my son to that uh. Tiger, not the Tiger King, but it was. the other guy, the ones who's in jail. for tax evasion now. Um. >> Tiger King's in jail for murder, right?

>> Yeah. No, no, no. The It was one of the. guys, >> not for murder, but for like trying to. get someone murdered. >> The other guy, what the [ __ ] his name? He was one who had all the girlfriends. >> Oh, the guy who ran the little cult. A. little cult going on. >> Yeah, dude. I brought my son there and. it was him, dude. He came out when they. presented the elephant. It was um Why am. I blanking on his name? >> Doc. >> Doc Antel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He brought the elephant out. himself. It was Dude, it was such a fun. show. Like there was like a half day. It. was like four or five hours. >> He went to jail for what? >> Tax evasion. >> Ah, these [ __ ] pay your taxes,

people. >> It's the dumbest way to get got. >> Yeah. It's crazy. Oh, and while Yeah. moneyaundering char I'm sorry. Moneyaundering. >> Moneyaundering. >> Yeah. Wildlife trafficking and. moneyaundering. That's a lot different. than not paying your tax. >> They have all of these baby tigers that. they bring out, but they only have like. two adult tigers. So, what are they. doing with these baby tigers? >> Whoa, well, go back to that. >> Hold on. Make that larger. What does it. say here? It says 12 months for pleading. guilty for in a conspiracy to violate. the Lacy Act and launder more than.

$500,000 for what he believed to be an. operation to smuggle illegal immigrants. into the United States across the Mexico. border. Oh, this is a lot different than. that. Like he was getting illegal. immigrants across the border for money. >> He was Yeah, he was sh [laughter]. >> That's crazy. So that's not just like. wildlife stuff and taxes. Like this guy. was like illegal immigrant trafficking. >> Yeah, this guy was a bad. >> Wow. >> a bad dude probably. But he did have he.

had a bunch of like a sweet cult going. on. >> Young hot chicks. I met a I knew a girl. that I dated who went and interviewed. and she was like it felt like I was. interviewing for porn. She I showed up. and it was like oh no. The other girls. were like oh you're going to have to. like be a part of this. >> Yeah. >> Well the thing about this guy. >> but for a baby tiger dude I got to be. honest with you. They're really. [laughter] cute. >> They're adorable. >> I get it. Women are so [ __ ] dumb. They're like baby tigers I'll suck his. dick. Fine. >> Well I think they just want to belong to. something. And this guy comes along and. he's charismatic and you belong to his. little family. Family of five girls.

They're all hanging out together blowing. this one fat guy. [laughter]. >> I mean, >> smuggling Mexicans and murdering baby. tigers. >> Well, that's the thing about those kind. of guys. This is why I was going to say. about the the smuggling in the Mexicans. Those kind of guys are never happy. [clears throat]. >> with whatever they've gotten away with. They always want to keep pushing. Yeah. You know, he was not happy that he's an. ugly guy with a cult, you know, of of. hot chicks and tigers. >> Yeah. You're a millionaire. You have. tigers and hot chicks. That's all you.

need. >> You're in a TV show. You're good. You're. good. You don't have to smuggle in the. Mexicans, too. But those kind of guys. are always They just can't. [clears throat] stop pushing. >> Yeah. >> Can't stop pushing. >> Yeah. I think Yeah. It's whatever it is, you you whatever level it is, you always. want to level up no matter what. >> No matter what. >> Bobby Kelly said that to me about. Louisie back in the day. He was like, uh, you know, because we all we're all. everyone's insecure comedian. Everyone. in New York's insecure. Everyone in LA. and Austin, you guys [ __ ] you guys. are [laughter] you guys [ __ ] love. life. You're just living life to your. fullest. Everyone in New York is like, I'm going to kill myself. I hate [ __ ].

life. It sucks. >> I think it's the environment. >> Yeah. Well, it's a rough city. It's a. really rough city. >> It's a great city. It's awesome. >> Cities in general [clears throat]. is a weird concept. Shoving a bunch of. people way too close to each other. >> for long periods of time. It has an. effect. >> It's also like uh it's just a it's a. rough city, dude. It's even when even. like the highest level, like if you're. doing well. >> Yeah. You still got to [ __ ] walk up. those subway stairs and it's just like. just hot air in the summertime down if. you try to take the subway or.

>> you know sitting in New York traffic or. just like crazy homeless people walking. around. You got to like really want to. be there to stand it. I I did it for 20. years. I moved to the suburbs during the. pandemic. Um and I I love New I still. love New York. I go to New York a few. times a week still. But it is uh it is. definitely a young man's city where you. got to like you got to be there to like. I'm trying to become the best comic or a. dancer, work on Wall Street or whatever. it is. Like. >> that's true. But I know a lot of old. people that love it too, man. They'll. never leave. They love it. >> The life they love the energy. There's. just people around them all the time.

There's something going on everywhere. you look. You can get food at 3:00 in. the morning. You could. >> I mean, as far if you're a city person. like Ari. [clears throat]. >> Yeah. >> It there's no place like New York City. >> Ari spends I don't even know how much on. rent, but probably $50,000 a month for a. room where you can touch all the walls. >> Yeah. It's crazy. It's stupid. [clears throat]. It's stupid. And now if you're rich and. you own property and you don't stay. there, they're going to they're going to. tax you more. There's a new thing that.

Mom Donnie just came out with and. everyone's like, "Yeah, [ __ ] the. billionaires." Like, >> okay, [ __ ] the billionaires until it's. [ __ ] the thousands. >> It's all it's not even just. billionaires. Like, we're talking about. you don't have to be particularly. wealthy to own property. Like, it's a. good investment with the money that you. have, >> right? But this particular bill is about. more than $5 [clears throat] million. valued homes. >> Okay? So, if you have an apartment in. New York City, it's worth more than $5. million. You get taxed more. >> Yeah. >> And he's like saying it won't be that. big a deal and it will it'll give the.

city $500 million in in extra revenue. that they could use for all kinds of. things that they want to do, >> which is great if you've cut out all the. fraud, [laughter]. >> but you haven't. And so, you're not even. concentrating on the fraud. You're not. even admitting the fraud exists. You're. not even admitting the waste exists. >> Yeah. How about you tell us where all. the money to NOS's went? How about you. tell us that? How about you tell us. where all the homeless money went? What'. you spend it on? There's all these.

homeless people. It seems like no, someone didn't do a good job and got a. lot of money. What happened? And you. want more money? That's a crazy answer. >> And it's also like the idea that rich. people are inherently like privileged. It's very bizarre. Like I'm not rich, but I do pretty well. Like I do I do. better than you know much better than. the average American financially you. know um a lot of people would consider. me you know pretty well to do but like I. grew up welfare drug addict mother dad's. dad when I was four years old I had to. [ __ ] I spent 15 years doing comedy. making zero dollars investing into this.

thing to hopefully one day on the other. side of it be able to reap the benefits. of it. So now that I've finally broken. through the other side you're like oh. well no you don't deserve all that. money. We deserve some of that money. That's crazy. >> Yeah. There's a weird concept in this. country and it's because of the. billionaire class. So there's a level of. the game where they've passed so far. See if everybody only got this is like. what people would like to say, you know, being a millionaire is fine. Nobody. should be a billionaire. We should have.

a cap on wealth. The problem with that. is you're going to also have a cap on. motivation. >> Yeah. >> So a lot of these people psychopaths. A. lot of these people that run these. corporations are [ __ ] psychopaths and. they work 16 hours a day, seven days a. week. And the only reason why they do. that is because they know that they can. make a hundred billion dollars if they. do that. >> And if you stop that, you're going to. stop iPhones. You're you're not going to. have Lenovo laptops. You're not going to. have any of these things. If you if.

that's where it's weird for people, like. you're not going to have an Amazon. unless you have a guy who's a. billionaire. Like it's not going to See, the thing is No, it's not fair. You're. right. It's not fair. And here's the. thing. Would it be fair? It is fair. Kind of fair. Life is kind of fair in a. weird way. >> Oh, please. Depending on how you treat. your employees. >> Okay. >> That's where we decide whether or not. it's fair. >> So, you're saying that Amazon doesn't. treat their employees well? I hear that. a lot. >> I hear that a lot, too. I don't know if. it's true, but what I do know is that. there's a lot of [ __ ] complaints. And.

if there's a lot where there's smoke, probably some fire. I know that there's. like some efficiency things where you. have like a clock ticks off like if you. order a [ __ ] a box of legal pads. Yeah. >> You know those little notebooks you have. to this guy has to get that in the box. in like 30 seconds or whatever the [ __ ]. it is. So he has to run around like. people are literally like moving quickly. around the warehouse. >> Yeah. They're like you hear stories and. once again you have to take everything. with a grain of salt. Like employees. become bitter sometimes. You know what. I'm saying? Like most people hate their.

boss. >> True. But that job does sounds like it. sucks and it sounds like you're asking. people to run around because you want to. make the most money possible, but you're. paying them not that great. Like that's. a weird one because you're also setting. up the inevitable, which is robots. >> because they're going to be able to do. that way easier and quicker. They're. going to know exactly where the product. is. They're not going to have to look on. their [ __ ] little iPad. They're going. to know exactly where it is. They're. going to go right to it, package it. They're going to print out. instantaneously. >> They're never going to the bathroom, never leak. They don't need food. Nope.

They never complain. >> You're [ __ ] no matter what because. they're going to lay off a bunch of. people. There's no if ends or buts. >> Oh, yeah. That that that is going to be. really effective. You're talking about. like how AI and robots are going to like. affect certain industries driving, you. know, factory workers, things like that. That's all just going away. >> Yeah. That's the real threat to your. job, not the billionaires. But the thing. is, like you see a guy, whether it's. like Elon Musk or someone like I think. Elon's supposedly worth like 800 billion. now, and people just get really angry. They really get upset. Like, and think.

about how much that would help if he. gave his money away. And I get what. you're saying, but the problem is give. the money away to who? Give the money. away to the people that have [ __ ] up. the money that we've already given them. Like, you got to be honest about, look, the idea is great. Wouldn't it be. wonderful if Elon Musk just gave away a. hundred billion dollars and we. completely fixed all poverty and. homelessness is gone. No more food. problems. everyone. No starvation on. earth. >> The idea that throwing money at homeless.

people is just going to fix the problem. >> Exactly. >> I mean, I'm Believe me, I I have. empathy. I'm not going like, "Oh, [ __ ]. the homeless." I I don't have that. attitude at all. But at the same time, it's like. >> wherever you go, there you are. >> The idea of giving the government money. to fix things. >> Oh, that's crazy. That's insane. That's. actually If you ever try to try to go to. a government building, you you see the. inefficiency. If you just try to call to. get some information about your taxes, if you try to call the IRS, you see the. inefficiency. You're like, there's no. [ __ ] way, dude. And it's just.

honestly, it's designed to be that way. It's designed to be really intricate and. difficult, and there's a lot of people. that have to get paid. So, it's like. that. And that's I was so excited about. Elon and Trump getting together and and. doing the um Doge. >> Yeah. Yeah. Doge. I was like, what a. great idea. Two real brilliant business. minds trying to figure out government. efficiency and trying to save us money. I was like, they're going to do it. And. of course, nothing happened. Well, some. things happened. A lot of things did get. shut down. And it also opened up a lot. of people's eyes to the understanding of. what an NGO is and where the money goes.

And when people found out how many NOS's. there are and how much money gets spent, they're like, "Wait, wait, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Can we get an. accounting of this stuff?" Like, this. sounds nuts. There's so much money. that's being sent out to these. nonprofits and these organizations. Like, did you see hear when Spencer. Pratt was on the podcast? >> No, I didn't. he's running for mayor of. New York or excuse me of Los Angeles. And one of the things that he was. talking about. >> was the fire aid. Like so the money that.

they generated over $und00 million was. generated uh for the people that lost. their homes in the Pacific Palisades. fire. >> All of it went to these NOS's. >> like it went to he said what did he say. 20 different how many different 200. different. >> I think it was 200 different. >> Yeah. 200 different nonprofits got the. money that was supposed to go to the. houses, the people that lost their. house. >> Yeah. >> Hundred million dollars and they just. divvied it up. >> And how much of that money? 20% goes to.

actual people. The rest is. >> they don't even know how many people are. getting benefit from it. >> Yeah. It's I mean if you there's like. lists of like charities and nonprofits. and how what the percentage is that. actually goes to insane. They divided up. between 200 [clears throat] different. nonprofits. How about give it to the. people? Yeah. >> Because the thing about these. nonprofits, they rely on that kind of. money in order to pay their staff. And. some of these, you find out some of. these people that are working for these. government agencies, is another thing. that Spencer has uncovered. There's like.

a a ton of them that are making more. than a half a million dollars a year. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. [laughter]. But there's a weird thing with like the. nonprofits like all right if you if you. have to attract like a CEO from like a. major corporation to come and make this. nonprofit efficient and to really. generate as much revenue as possible. Like if they're making more money. because they have a really competent CEO. and a really competent staff and only. 20% of it is going to help people, but. it's still 200% of what the next. company's doing. I guess it's it's worth. it, right? >> Well, the thing is they're not a.

company. [clears throat] They're the. government. So, they're not held. accountable. They're they're not. supposed to be efficient. They don't. they don't have to be profitable. They. don't have to do like a good audit of. their business. This is one of the. things that Elon said, if any of these. [ __ ] companies, he's like, if any one. of them that like where they just sent. out billions of dollars and they have no. accounting and no receipts for it, >> he goes, if you were a part of a. publicly traded company, you would be. tried. You would your company would lose. its credit. Yeah. Your your company.

would fall off the stock market. it it. would be like a [ __ ] company now and. you would go to jail. >> like you that's totally illegal but in. government it's standard practice so the. the in inefficiency is built in I was. reading something about California tell. me if this is true they were talking. about California's see put this into. perplexity California the percentage of. people that live in California went up. by a small amount but the percentage of. government went up by a large amount.

>> there's the percentage of people with. government jobs. >> went up considerably whereas the. population didn't go up. I don't know if. this is true. This is why I want to have. it looked up. But. >> when you just stop and think about the. fact that it's a business to hire people. to be inefficient and that it's within. your best interest to not just never be. efficient and never solve the problem. because if you do, you're out of a job, but also to make the problem bigger. every year so you could hire more people. and get a bigger raise and a bigger.

thing. And that's why. this homeless thing in California. It's. like more than $24 billion they spent on. the homeless. >> on what though? What are they doing? >> Exactly. What are they. >> exactly? So, they've [clears throat]. tried to get audits and Newsome has. vetoed the audits. >> Wow. >> Which is crazy that they could say no, you can't find out if any fraud or any. waste has happened with tax dollars. No, we're going to stop that investigation. >> Well, that's crazy. Yeah. And that.

that's So there I would vote for almost. anybody who if they just said I'm going. to cut your taxes in half, they have my. vote. >> The problem is what are you doing with. the taxes there should if AI has a role. in solving this? What AI should be able. to do it's like we should say yeah you. tax me a fair amount. I'm happy to pay. taxes if I'm if it's going to public. schools and public roads. I absolutely. feel very happy to contribute and I want. the [clears throat] world to be a better. place because of my tax dollars. But. also,

where's it going? >> Yeah, it's going to. >> Where's it going? >> Bomb school children overseas and to. >> fund wars that most people don't want. So, >> and transgender dancing in Indonesia. Like, >> is that a thing that's happening? >> Oh, there's weird [ __ ] They spent $250. million doing uh transsexual operations. on animals. Experimenting on animals to turn them. trans. No, no, no [ __ ] No [ __ ]. 250. I think it was $251 million. Oh my.

[laughter] god. Yeah, they spent $2. million giving cocaine to dogs. California's population has dipped. slightly since 2020 while government. jobs have been one of the few areas of. job growth. So yes, government employee. employment has generally increased even. as the population growth stalled or. reversed. So what is the percentage? So. total job growth has slowed sharply. Statewide employment grew by uh only. about half of a percent in 2023, then.

actually fell slightly down about 100 uh. 11,200 jobs or 0.1% in 2025. State. overall is only a few% in jobs compared. with before the pandemic and it lags the. national growth rate. So how many more. jobs? What's the percentage more? I. think that's more. >> Is it because people are leaving. California? >> So it says in 2025 private employers. there's a lot of that cut about 31,000.

jobs while government employers added. about 20,200. jobs driven mostly by a gain of 45,800. local government positions. So they. added 45,000 government positions while. private employers cut 31,000 jobs. So they just keep making the government. bigger. So the economy. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> fuels the government. The government. controls the economy. It's all nuts.

>> Yeah. When I mean when you say. government job, that's like people like. a clerk that works in like the. courthouse. That also counts, right? >> They Yeah. But they also do weird [ __ ]. like they have to have new regulations. They have to have people that make. regulations now and justify their jobs. [clears throat] if there's a lot of. government jobs. So then you get wacky. rulings like California recently they're. banning blackjack in casinos. No more. blackjack. >> Why not blackjack? >> Putting a foot down. No more blackjack. in River City. >> Why? Why no blackjack? I don't. understand it. >> No one understands it. [laughter] It.

doesn't make any [ __ ] sense. You can. play poker. You can't play blackjack. How about [ __ ] you stay away from me. >> Yeah. How about if I earn uh $2,000 in a. week and I want to take $500 and go to. the casino and try to win more or lose. it. How about [ __ ] you, you leave me the. [ __ ] alone. You're just another human. being. You should have no opinion. >> Well, they want to The government wants. to get their hands in every vice because. they know they know we can't we can't. give up our vices. We can't give up.

alcohol and weed and cigarettes and. gambling and prostitution. >> They're not getting rid of gambling. That's the thing. They're still paying. the casinos still pay taxes, right? >> You just eliminated one of their [ __ ]. ways to make money. >> Is there Is there a public reason why. they've said it? >> I'd like to find out. >> Yeah. >> Let's find out what What's the public? >> Blackjack is my only game. >> That's it. That's. >> Do you know what you're doing or you're. a wild [ __ ] who hits 17? >> No, I'm good. I'm good at blackjack. I. mean, I'm good. I'm I know the rules of. the book and I play by the rules and I I. sit down at the table expecting to lose.

everything and if I don't, I'm happy. That's that. >> Yeah. Jamie wants some money. Shane. wants some money. >> Blackjack. Yeah, they were doing pretty. good. The watching Dana White do it is. gives you [ __ ] anxiety though, dude. >> Just like crazy bets. >> He was $600,000 down when I met him. there. [laughter]. >> I was like, dude, this is crazy. And I. was watching these people. That kid. Aiden Ross, you know, that streamer kid, that kid lost a million bucks. I'm just. like, lost a million. Like, how much is. he making? >> I take $500 out every time. >> According to this was banned from card.

rooms, not casinos. That's kind of a. different thing. >> Oh, that's right. It is a card room. where they play poker. That's right. >> Cuz their casinos are different. Their. casinos are only like in uh. >> And that's what this whole thing. >> Indian places, right? It says this whole. >> reservations. Yeah. Same the same thing. in Jersey, New York. Yeah. >> The '9s. >> So that's right. But what is Wait a. minute. What's the Bicycle Club casino? Isn't that a casino? >> I don't know who runs it, >> but it's on It's in California. Like. it's in like Orange County. Bicycle Club. Casino.

So, uh, the reason why I know about that. place is I used to go there to watch. professional pool tournaments. And then I that was the first time I. realized like, oh, there's a casino in. California, like right off the highway. I think it's off what what highway is. that off of? But it's like if you're going down to. like do a gig in San Diego, you'll. you'll pass by this place if you go down. one of the roads. >> 710. >> 710. [clears throat] Yeah. There you go.

But uh so what is that? Did do they have. blackjack there? Because I know they had. poker there. You know, Ari Shafir during. his uh early days of comedy would make a. living going to poker tournaments. >> Playing. >> Yeah, that's how good he is at poker. >> Really? >> Oh yeah, man. He [clears throat] would. snap off poker tournaments all the time. >> Some people are good. I like it's just a. patience thing. >> Well, he just plays it like for him it. was a job. He's like I play it like it's. a job. He's like, "These people all get. drunk and they all get high and they're. all [ __ ] stupid. They make dumb.

choices." He goes, "I I play smart. against idiots and they get drunk and I. win money.". >> It says it's technically a poker card. room, but this says they have blackjack, but maybe they fell in the rules where. they're not allowed to have it now, too. I don't. >> Right. Three card poker and bakarat. We. were talking about Bakarat the other day. because that's what Dana White's moved. to because you get more money. >> Is that like uh It's kind of like. blackjack but no, I'm thinking of the. Asian one. What's the Asian move? I have. no idea what Bakarat. >> It's three cards you got to get. >> How many cards is Bakarat?

>> I have no idea how to play it. I don't. know what it is. I've just heard it. before. >> Yeah, >> I've heard that name before. I've never. looked into it. >> Yeah. I I mean, I look at it as like. going to uh like I don't like baseball, but like I go to a baseball game and eat. hot dogs and drink beer. It's like the. same thing as casino. Like I'm not a big. gambler. I'm like I'm just going to. drink and I'm going to have fun, hang. out with a chick. Like. >> it just seems like you can't win. >> No. >> And it's also what are you doing? What. are you doing? just rolling dice every. day. That's crazy. That's a You're. spiking your adrenaline every day, rolling dice for your [ __ ] mortgage.

>> Yeah, it's just a It's just a It's a. game with stakes. We. >> Bakarat is a comparing card game play. between two hands. The player and the. banker. Each Bakarat coup uh round of. play has three possible outcomes. Player, player has the higher score, banker, and tie. >> Okay. >> Yeah. They like it cuz you you it's a. one quick bet and you can bet up to 500k. per hand, I think. And then you can also. tie so you don't lose. It's not going to. win or lose.

>> Oh my god. >> Big swings. Big swings. Big fast swings. [laughter]. >> Jesus. >> If you get down No, but I watch people. play these games and go. >> Look, I admire their balls. >> Especially poker players. Like, you got. to be a smart [ __ ] to to win. those big World Series of poker things, make a bunch of money playing poker. Yeah, that's was uh one of my favorite. scenes from Rounders where they they. talk about how uh I always use that like. analogy in life where they talk about um.

people like oh they think it's luck. They think that you know it's the luck. of the the draw and it's like if it was. about if it was luck why is it the same. eight guys at the final table of the. World Series of Poker every single year. >> Exactly. >> It's like you're not playing the cards, you're playing the game, you're playing. each other. I kind of like look at that. like in life and I'm like it's like the. cards don't really matter as much as how. you play them, you know? >> Yeah. Yeah, it's a complicated game. It's And but why is that okay but. blackjack isn't? Like who [ __ ] says. like says who? Says who? Why? Why? You.

know what I mean? [clears throat] Why? Why more regulations? I'll tell you why. Because they have to justify all these. [ __ ] extra jobs. >> That's a lot of where regulations come. from. And it's also there it's fun. You. could tell people what to do. No more. flavored zins. >> Yeah. There's like all these like just. like weird things that don't like. there's like weird laws. So, I live in. Bergen County, New Jersey, and it's like. um they have blue laws still. I don't. know if you know what that is. >> Oh, yeah. Those are the best. Sunday. >> Sunday, no like no, you can't buy. clothes. You can't buy like furniture. >> You can't buy clothes.

>> Can't buy clothes on Sundays. [laughter]. >> Walmart. Walmart. >> What if you [ __ ] your pants? Are you new. to town? >> You're [ __ ] [laughter] You got to. walk around and smell like [ __ ]. But Walmart in uh New Jersey, they rope. off the clothing section. They have it. set up to where like you literally can't. go past it. You still buy food, but you. can't go to the clothing section. >> When I was a kid, um there was no. alcohol for sale in Sundays on in uh. Massachusetts. >> Yeah. >> And so we had to go to New Hampshire to. get beer. So we'd make a what we call a.

pachy run because they would call them. package stores and you know with that. Boston accent, mush, you want to go to. the pachy and we have to drive. >> Everybody was mush. There was a there. was a time there was this was a Newton. North thing and people from. Massachusetts I think maybe people still. use this but they would call instead of. dude it would be mush mush everybody was. mush mush we going mush we going out. like girls would say it to you mush you. taking me out it was weird and it's only. this one part of the city had mush like.

my part didn't have mush but a few. people tried it out it started catching. on with my part of the city but in. Newton North I was in Newton South. Newton North everybody was mush. It was. like everybody's nick. It was weird like. a a virus of like language went through. the entire city. >> Dude, thick of thick accents from like. certain American cities on women just so. unattractive. >> That's a [laughter] rough one. Boston. got really hot to bypass that accent. >> Philly. You meet a girl from Philly. >> A rough one. >> Hard [snorts] girls, but probably a lot.

of fun. >> Oh yeah. >> So we would we'd have to drive to New. Hampshire. So we take we'd have to drive. an hour and a half to go get booze. >> Yeah. No, that that exists in certain. places still. In New Jersey it's like. you can't Yeah. It's got to be a liquor. store specifically. You can't buy beer. in a supermarket. I grew up in in the. suburbs in New York, so you could buy. beer in the supermarket. >> Made it where you couldn't buy wine for. a while. Then for a couple years, you. could buy wine. It's all these dumb. [ __ ] laws. >> They're all Chick-fil-A laws. >> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] Exactly. Yeah. But. >> Chick-fil-A is so silly. They take. Sundays off for the Lord.

>> Like, bro, you're grinding chickens up. with titanium and aluminum in it. Like, what the [ __ ] are you talking about? >> Yeah. But it's good. Delicious. >> It's [ __ ] delicious. >> God damn, it's delicious. >> If you make a del if you just make a. delicious sandwich, I don't care what. your beliefs are. >> It's so delicious that even gay people. eat there. Think of that. >> Yeah. >> All the [ __ ] that guy's talked about the. gays. The gay people are like, "Put it. aside and have some chicken. [laughter]. >> Whatever. >> The chicken. >> He's just a bitch.". >> But they got What is that weird. ingredient that we found out was in the.

uh the bread? >> It was something kooky, right? >> Yeah. It's aluminum something or other, but it's in a lot of things. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it's in. there. >> It's in there. [laughter]. >> I've seen something about the blue lot. You can't buy a car on Sunday in Texas. >> That's hilarious. >> That's wild. Yeah. It's so weird. >> Oh, that makes sense. That makes sense. >> What's funny is there so there's a mall. in New Jersey. The mall not Mall. American. Dream Mall. Huge huge huge mall. Like. one of these like super malls, right? Like you know [ __ ] there's a water. park inside. There's a there's a.

>> water park. Okay. There's a ski. >> um you can learn skiing. It's like a. fake ski hill. A Snow Hill. >> Yes. Year year round. You can take ski. and snowboard lessons. >> Oh, that would help so much. >> It's so cool, dude. It's It's really. cool. They got like, you know, a bunch. of escape rooms. It's just a massive. massive mall. Yeah, it is. That's nuts. >> Yeah. Inside, dude. They got a water. park. They got a Nickelodeon studios. There's like a theme park inside of the. mall. It's a crazy mall. And they just. said, "Fuck it. We're opening Sundays.". >> There's a big sign right on the side of. it's like, "We're open Sundays. We don't.

care." And Pamis uh is suing them. Paramis is one of the biggest shopping. cities in the country, I believe. Imagine the government is saying you. can't do business with a bunch of people. that want to come to your business. >> Crazy. >> because it's a different day. >> Yep. >> [ __ ] you. >> What was funny is it's not the. government. I looked into this cuz I was. going like, "What the [ __ ] going on. here?". >> The people, all these old [ __ ] people. that have been living in this community. forever, they it goes to a vote and. every year they go, "No, no, no. We. don't want traffic. We want Sundays in.

Bergen County to be [ __ ] relaxing and. nice and beautiful because there's no. taxes." I think, but I believe to this. day on clothing there's no taxes in. Jersey. So, we would do our school. shopping in Jersey when I was growing. up. We would just drive 30 minutes to to. Bergen County and go to the mall. >> Um, and you save money on taxes. Um, so. yeah, but uh yeah, that that mall was. just like, [ __ ] it. And then a huge. sign. I'm talking about like the mall's. so big. The sign I don't even like I. don't even know how you would make a. sign this [ __ ] big, but it's just. draped down the sign. We're down the. side. We're open on Sundays. They don't.

give a [ __ ]. >> So, are they getting sued now? They're. being sued by Pramis. >> I bet they're going to win. This doesn't. make sense. That law is stupid. Do you. need business? Yes. Is the economy down? Yes. Wouldn't it be better if people had. the option to be able to go to the. [ __ ] mall on Sunday? Especially. somebody who works every [ __ ] day and. maybe they have to work Saturday as well. and Sunday's their only day off. How. about let them go there to buy some. pants? >> Y [ __ ] [laughter] control freak. >> Let him buy a [ __ ] hat. What's wrong. with [laughter] you, you [ __ ].

>> We're the government. We got guns. You. can't shop here. [ __ ] you, man. >> That's the problem is the problem is. these [ __ ] [ __ ] just keep adding. more and more regulations. >> Yeah, >> it's dumb. >> What else can't you do in Texas on. Sunday? >> Uh, >> what was that one that was dumb that you. just said? >> Can't buy a car. Can't buy a car. >> The thing was you couldn't buy You. couldn't sell things on consecutive. weekend days, so everybody just sort of. picked Saturday, it says. >> Huh. That's ridiculous. >> You can't buy liquor on Sundays here.

>> Phil in Texas. Yeah, >> you can in a restaurant, but not at a. store. >> So, at the supermarket, what do they do? They say, "We can't sell you that cuz. it's Sunday.". >> You can. >> It's the Lord's day. We can't sell We. could sell you beer. You could drink. yourself to death on some hooch. They. give you some wine. >> Like, you go to one city, it's like the. like it's so strict. Then you go to like. New Orleans and like they're like they. just have like people will hand you a. beer at a window. You just walk down the. street, you're partying in the streets. like it's such a weird like.

differentiation between like each. jurisdiction. >> Yeah. We were doing a gig down there and. the guy uh who was a driver, he was. telling me about how uh he went. somewhere else and the cops pulled him. over because he had an open drink and he. was walking down the street and he and. the the guy goes, "Where are you from?". And he goes, "Norand." And he's like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't do that. anywhere else." Like that [laughter]. thing that you. >> do in Vegas, >> can you you watch the beer? >> Okay, that's good. I think you could do. it on Sixth Street in Austin. Can you? I.

think No, you can. >> No. >> I think people do it. >> People definitely do it. >> They definitely do it. I've seen them. >> Yeah. I don't think you're allowed to. >> Well, is there any enforcement of that. law? >> That's probably not the main thing. they're worried about. I don't think. most days. >> Boy, a lot of sloppy fights on Sixth. Street. There's a there's entire YouTube. and Instagram pages dedicated to Sixth. Street fights. >> Just brutal. I saw I saw one I don't. know if it was Six Street, but I saw one. where was a dude who obviously had like. wrestling experience. I mean, dude, he suplexed this dude. He. paralyzed a guy. >> Oh god.

>> He he suplexed a guy. >> on the concrete. >> completely laid out completely. >> Jesus Christ. >> And it's like, god damn, dude. Just like. that. Two lives over, right? This guy, he's now in a [snorts] wheelchair for. the rest of his life. This guy is going. to [ __ ] jail. >> That's that. >> Oh god. >> Over not being able to control your. emotions. >> Yeah. No, you're not allowed to do that. in Austin. Only on like certain events. when it's like a festival or something. >> God, booze is so bad for people. >> Yeah. booze and being a young man and. being foolish. >> Ego.

>> Yeah, ego. >> Just need the need to prove yourself. >> Also, like you're a wrestler. You really. know how to wrestle. You're going to. pile drive this dude into the concrete. >> It's It's weird because it's usually. it's guys that don't know how to fight. that are doing stupid guys that know how. to fight. Typically, >> maybe the other guy had it coming. I. [clears throat] don't know what. happened, but no one has that coming, but I mean, maybe he started the fight. I don't, you know, I shouldn't have said. it had it coming. But having a any kind. of a altercation on the concrete is so. [ __ ] dangerous. >> Dudes die all the time when they get.

KO'ed. >> And most guys that especially if guys. sucker punch guys and they just fall. back and the whole weight of their body. bangs off the back of their head. It is. so devastating. You might as well hit. them with a [ __ ] giant metal crowbar. You might as well. >> Yeah, >> you might as well. It's worse than. getting hit with a baseball bat. probably. That falls so scary. And I've. seen it so many times, man, on online. >> Yeah. Just six feet straight back. Your. head just cracks on the concrete. >> and it's all that leverage from all of.

your weight. It's like a whip on the. back of your head. >> Heads crack wide open. Man, >> there's like a guy who just got in. trouble for like just pushing this some. dude having a bad day. Just push this. old guy to the ground. >> Guy cracked his head on the floor, died. >> I saw that. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> I saw that. And the guy was like, he. that's that was his argument or his his. defense was like, "I was having a really. bad day.". >> Oh, Jesus Christ. >> [ __ ] nuts, dude. People are insane. >> I know. How about the people that push. people in front of subways? How [ __ ]. psycho is that? >> Yeah. >> These people wait. They wait for a.

subway to come and they want to push. somebody in front of it just to watch. And then you have to like stand around. hoping that one of those people isn't. here while you're ready to get on your. train, >> dude. Yeah. [laughter] in a place like. New York or, you know, you know, really. urban sort of environment where there's. [ __ ] lots of crazies walking around. >> Um, yeah, you got to really just keep. your eyes open, man. Head on a swivel. >> You got to be ready to sprawl. >> Yeah. Don't fall asleep. You might get. lit on fire. That happens. That's. happening all the time. That happened. I. guess it is just the trends, but it. happened like three or four times over.

the course of a year where it's like. homeless people lighting other homeless. people on fire. The crazy thing is like. homelessness and crime are New York. City's two number one problems that keep. you unsafe. Those are the two that keep. you unsafe. >> Not a mention. Not a mention. It's like. we need more tax money. [laughter]. >> You should Don't say you're going to use. that to open up grocery stores. There's. grocery stores already here, [ __ ] What you need to do is. stop all these crazy [ __ ].

lighting people on fire, pushing people. in front of trains. Like, clean it up. Yeah. >> And then the world would be perfect. >> Yeah. Most of the time you hear about. those people like they uh they're like. they've been arrested 93 times for. violent crimes. >> Yeah. But 92 times, you know, they the. last one was a mistake. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's pretty [ __ ] goofy that. >> Can I see a little bit of. >> get some of that? >> People have that many arrests and they. just let them right back up. Cheers, sir. >> Cheers, my friend. >> Hey, there you are.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's crazy. It's like, you know, you want to be nice. You want to be. kind. You want to give people the. benefit of the doubt. You want to give. people a second chance. You don't want. to put people in jail. The prison system. is horrible. But also, when somebody. gets arrested 93 times, take a hint. >> Yeah. >> Okay. There's bad apples. >> But then like somebody will like, you. know, for tax evasion, we get 30 years. in prison or something like that. Like. they It's such a weird bizarre. >> system that we have, >> right?

>> Released 93 times for stabbing people. Yeah, [laughter] it's like, oh, you. know, >> but if you insider trade, put lock that. [ __ ] up. >> That's it, dude. >> I know. >> There's nothing worse than you can do is. not give the government their [ __ ]. money. >> They get real testy. Yeah, >> they don't like it. They don't like it. They need their cut. But it's also it's. like there's too much there's too much. government. And that that's like the a. standard Republican thing to say, but. just clearly it's true. >> Clearly, it's true just by the market. If you see the California lost jobs and.

then gain government jobs, it's like at. what point in time do you get cynical. and start saying maybe they're adding. government jobs to make it look like. jobs went up? >> Yeah, right. >> You know what I'm saying? Job market increased job growth by 15%. Like, oh wow, he's doing a great job. Jobs went up at 15%. And then you find. out, oh, they're all invented jobs. Government just invented a bunch of fake. [laughter] jobs that they didn't need. >> Yeah. When when you hear that it's like. a uh a tenant of like the Republicans.

now to be like smaller government. It's. it's it's like it's it flip-flopped. >> Yeah. Bananas. >> It's like people on the left, they're. like so pro government, they're like we. just need more we need more regulation, more government. >> When did that happen? >> It's a it's a crazy thing. I just grew. up as like a liberal in the '9s where. it's like. >> don't trust the government. >> Don't trust the government. Yeah. Wars. are bad. Don't trust the government. These were simple basic things that. you're just growing up believing. And uh. yeah, it just. >> now it's we need more government. >> We need to take taxes away from people. It's all that's the thing about we want.

to pay more taxes. That's insane. >> Well, they don't want to pay more taxes. They want billionaires to pay more. taxes. But that's the thing. There's How. many billionaires were there when we. were kids? [ __ ] none. >> You didn't hear about it. >> Rockefeller. >> Well, yeah. You hear about that? The. only name you'd hear. >> a couple of names that you would hear, but it wouldn't be like really like a. common term. >> Yeah. you know, there wasn't that many. to talk about. Like I remember there was. some Bill Gates Microsoft thing back in. the day and uh I remember they had like.

his net worth was like $50 million and I. was like Jesus why is he still working, >> you know? I mean it's worth hundreds of. billions now. >> Like that wasn't a normal thing when we. were kids. Like what? Let's Google this. What how many. Oh, you got Okay, here we go. >> 82. The year I was born 13 billionaires. That's crazy. >> Yeah, that's nuts. So, in 1982, 13. billionaires. In 2026, 989 billionaires.

Wow. I mean, inflation counts for. something as well. >> No, that's nuts, dude. That's nuts. 989. is nuts. That's so much more, bro. That's lit. Let me see that again. That is so crazy. 13 to 989 is nuts. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, that's the problem. It's not that.

billionaires are a problem. The problem. is that there's so many of them. And the. problem is it's become like a class and. you look at this class of people that. have achieved this insane amount of. wealth and you're like, you should give. me some of that. >> But when I hear about billionaires, I'm. going like, how do I do that? Like, I'm. just going like, and obviously I don't. think I'll ever become a billionaire. That's a crazy crazy number, right? I'll. probably say I I likely won't. But like. when I hear that, when you hear about. Bezos or Steve Jobs or any of these. people, like I get inspired. I hear the.

stories and I'm like, that's [ __ ] so. cool. They took an idea and they turned. it into a billion [ __ ] dollars. That's magic. You say words into the air. and then it becomes that. Like that's a. that's a crazy thing. Like I'm an old. school sales guy, so I always think of. like I'm very impressed with like, you. know, just overall just like sales. structure and business and the way it's. built out. And it's like it's the. closest thing in the world to magic, right? It's like when you're in sales, you say a bunch of words, bippity. boppity boo, and then money appears in. your bank account, right? It's like. that's it. Comedy, too. Comedy is like. magic.

>> Comedyy's like you you figure out where. to pause, what to say, how to say it, what you do, and then all of a sudden. you have fans and you're touring and you. have some cash and you have a car and. it's like I'm just saying things. I'm. not picking anything up. I'm not like. >> Yeah. The thing about businesses though, what you're saying about the sales. thing, it's like the sales is the voodoo. in order to like close a deal. The thing that people have a problem. with is that like when they when someone. is at a very high level of this company. like say if you work for a giant. corporation and the CEO is making you.

know what's like the most amount of se. what's the highest paid CEO's national. sal annual salary. >> let's take a guess. >> is it is it Elon. >> no like a like their annual salary. someone who's just a CEO of a company. those guys are like founders right it's. also there's another level to that like. he's the CEO of SpaceX, but he's also. the founder of SpaceX or one of them. And. >> it's like. what is um. so let's say let's just pick a company.

Let's say CEO of Walmart. Walmart's a. huge company. How much does that guy get. a year? Let's take a guess. >> Walmart. >> Yeah. >> 6 million. >> Damn. I bet you're right. That sounds. about right. Six, seven. I'm guessing. two, maybe two. >> Uh, >> thinking I'm going low. I'm going low. >> You're going low. >> Well, you should break it down a little. more than that. >> And it's also not the salary. They get. like shares. >> Yeah, there's base salary. There's uh.

incentives and then there's bonuses. awards. >> So, it's just what how much did the CEO. of Walmart make in 2025? >> Total compensation 27.5 million. [laughter]. >> Base base salary was 1.5 million. Don't. >> see you close to the base. >> And so their incentives is just to make. the most amount of money possible. And. if you could keep that [ __ ] running. nice and smooth and cut waste and fire. people and use AI, you can keep jacking. up that rate. >> That's it. >> That's where people have a problem with.

it is like you're part of the team, right? You're part of the Walmart team, but yet you're [ __ ] dispensable, but. yet you're not. Because if you didn't. exist, they wouldn't be able to sell. anything because you're the people. working at the cash register. You're the. people stocking the shelves. You're the. people that are working in the delivery. department, bringing the stuff, putting. it away. >> Without those people, you literally have. no business. >> The problem is that those people, I. mean, in the most literal sense of the. term, they're dispensable. There's. another person that will step in and do. that job. And and Bezos is not. There's.

one Jeff Bezos, there's one Elon Musk, there's one Steve Jobs. And those and by. the way, you are sitting at a cash. register. You can also go down that path. and risk it all and put everything into. something, right? That's I I hear those. stories. I don't I mean I just I once. again I grew up so poor. I grew up like. you know my my first job I worked at my. first job was 11. I was very young but. like my first like real job I was 16. I. was working at KFC for 525 an hour. And. you know I could have just chosen that. to be my life for the rest of my life or. I could have said all right well look.

this is like my first job. I'm learning. how to put a little money in the bank. and I'm going to buy a car and then it's. the next thing and the next thing and. the next thing. >> Okay. We're talking about different. things. So first of all for entrylevel. jobs. Yes. like entry- level jobs that. people get in high school and maybe even. in college, you're just making a little. money on the side while you're doing. something else. But full-time jobs, if. you're a full-time employee at somewhere. like Walmart and you're barely getting. by and the top dog is making 27 million, that's kind of crazy. And are you. replaceable? Yeah. Yeah, you're. replaceable. But aren't you also.

valuable? Oh, look at the top guys. >> Top guy. >> Have you ever even heard of these two. companies? Patrick Smith from Axon made. 164 million. Wow. >> They make uh police body cameras and. >> Jesus Christ. So they get government. contracts. >> and then this company. >> so the the top CEO. who makes police body cameras, a company. that makes police body cameras, he got.

$164 million. >> God bless him. >> Good for him. >> It's a lot of money. 110,000%. increase in pay. It says whoopsies. [laughter] Just got an extra little. bump. Got a little bump. I wonder what. kind of raise you get. Which is crazy. I. guess. >> that's where that's where all that tax. money went. >> It's where it all a lot of it does go in. that direction. But it's if you're. working for that company making police. body cameras and you're making 20 bucks. an hour, you got to get pissed. >> Yeah. >> You like, what the [ __ ] man? This is.

crazy. Like I'm not saying that the guy. who makes the body cameras make the same. amount as the CEO. I'm not. But I am. saying it should probably be a little. >> they get paid 22 an hour. >> A little better. A little better. Like. if you're making that much money, why. wouldn't you pay a little bit more? >> Well, a lot great companies do for the. most part, right? Really good companies. take care of. >> a great example. What's a great example. of a company that really takes care of. their employees? >> Gas Digital. >> Gas Digital. Good. Okay. [laughter] But. what about other.

>> All of my producers are going like, "Fuck you, piece of [ __ ] [laughter]. every one of them. >> But I mean like a big ass company where. they're making billions of dollars. How. what's like the one where people like, "Damn, if you work for them, you get. taken care of.". >> There should be something. >> I mean, there certain Starbucks is a. company that apparently takes care of. their employees. I know they pay for. college. They do things like that. >> Well, here's the problem. The problem is. they're publicly traded. And when. they're publicly traded, if you're a. CEO, you literally have an obligation to. your shareholders to make the most money. possible. >> Yep. you know, and so that doesn't mean.

give everybody a big fat raise because. that's payroll is a big part of your. expenses. And if you have thousands of. employees and you just jack them all up. to a higher wage, you're losing, you're. hammering money from. >> I mean, it's also like if you just pay. your employees a little bit better, just. a very simple concept, they're going to. want to be at work. They're going to be. happy to be there. They're going to be. excited to be there. Your company will. thrive. the amount of people that just. show up at work and they maybe work an. hour a day, two hours a day, and the. rest of the time it's just kind of. bullshitting on the internet. >> You don't really want that culture.

>> Um, and that's kind of what you get when. you're underplaying underpaying people. >> 100%. That's why In-N-Out is always so. good. >> If you go to In-N-Out Burger in. California, they're always like the. friendliest staff and because people get. paid more there. >> It's a hard It's like a tricky job to. get in that regard. Like if you had a. choice between like McDonald's, Jack in. the Box and In-N-Out, everybody wants. In-N-Out. >> Of course, it's also better. >> Just much better. >> Tastes better. Smells better. >> I mean, that's that California anywhere. New York is they're just so mean. [laughter]. >> You go to a burger spot, like what?

>> Yeah, >> dude. Have you Have you I don't know how. often you go to like a 7-Eleven or one. of these types of places. It's a new. thing that they're doing. If you buy. things, they don't bag it for you. anymore. >> What? >> They put the bag on the counter and. stare at you. What? >> I have to bag my own. I swear to God. No, >> I swear to God, dude. >> What kind of attitude is that? >> It's crazy. I don't know if it's. everywhere, but in New York, New Jersey, they go, first of all, they don't even. give you a bag. They just put the stuff. on the counter and they go, "All right, thank you." And you're like, "Can I have. a bag?" They're like, "That'll be. another 80 cents.". >> 80 cents for a bag for real.

>> You got to pay for a bag. And then they. hand you the bag. You have to bag it. yourself like a cuck. >> Well, I know a lot of people that bring. those [ __ ] hemp bags and look like. weird greenies. >> I have I have 300 hemp bags sitting at. home. >> My own homemade bag. >> Do they do that in Texas? Do they do. they give you like paper bags here or. what do they do? cuz in Jersey or. plastic. >> Jersey we don't have that. We have no. bags. >> That's lol. >> for the in Jersey you have to buy you. have to bring your own like uh cloth. bags or you can buy them for like a $150. a bag at the supermarket and I never.

bring my bags. I always forget them. So. every time. >> you keep having new bags. >> I got 300 bag I pick up my dog [ __ ] I. pick up my dog [ __ ] with [ __ ] cloth. bags from Shop Right now. >> So they cost a$150. >> something like that. Yeah. >> It's crazy. >> What a scam. But the idea is, you know, the most I think responsible people or. people that are conscious about money, I'm just irresponsible with spending, they probably do bring their own bags or. a lot of them. >> I guess what if you just moved there and. you're like, "Oh my god, what kind of. [ __ ] state did I move to?". >> Yes. >> They don't sell bag. You have to buy a.

bag. They don't give you a bag. >> with the PL. I guess there, you know, I'm sure there's been plenty of studies. on like how much are, you know, how much. are they saving the environment by not. allowing plastic bags or straws or any. of that stuff. I don't think they're not. a [ __ ] dent. Especially straws. Straws are worse for you. Those new. straws, like if you get a straw that's a. paper straw, >> do you know that's not just paper? Cuz. it can't be. There's a whole coating. inside of that that keeps it from. getting wet, like the paper from. dissolving in your hand. >> I think my girlfriend has that coating. inside of her, too.

[laughter]. >> That coating is all forever chemicals. It's [ __ ] terrible for you. That's. the only way it works. There's some. natural ones, right, where it's like. made of like [ __ ] bugs or something. You ever see them? They're like It's. like brown and they're kind of like. >> made of bugs. >> I don't know if it's made of bugs. Probably not. But it's some natural. organic material. >> Well, they can make plastic out of. plants. Okay. This has been known. forever. Plastic is not it's not. isolated to petrochemical products. You. can make plastic out of fiber from.

plants. They've done it forever. >> And how much more biodegradable? It's. probably more expensive. Probably more. expensive to do. Probably more difficult. to do. You probably have to change all. the equipment that they use to make. these stupid [ __ ] straws, the plastic. ones they have now. But if you did it, then you wouldn't have to worry about it. anymore. >> Well, there I'm sure here you anything. goes here. You guys [ __ ] you guys. give away 10 straws per drink. You don't. give a [ __ ]. >> That's a weird one, man. Bottle caps are. way worse than straws. We just saw that.

one straw in that turtle's nose and we. all got sad. That's what it is. The way. they pull it out with the pliers. That. [ __ ] was [laughter] so hard. >> It was wincing. >> Poor little turtle. But you know. >> that turtle snap your [ __ ] finger. off. By the way, >> do you know how many birds die because. of bottle caps, man? >> Like they find these bird skeletons and. they're like on the ground dead and they. have bottle caps inside of them. >> You ever seen that? >> No. >> See if you can find some of those photos. of birds with bottle caps, undigested. bottle caps inside of them. They don't.

know what it is. >> Nobody has ever said that sentence in. the world. I [laughter] bet they have. >> But the the bottle caps are [ __ ]. horrible. They're horrible. And no one's. even touched those because we didn't see. the video, right? >> We didn't see the video of the the. [ __ ] poor turtle. >> Show them now. Show them these poor. birds, Joe. >> Maybe we can make bottle caps illegal, too, and make it [laughter] more. annoying for everybody. Look at this. one. Look at that. >> paper bottle caps. A lighter, too. >> The Was that a seagull? >> That's great. >> Looks like a seagull. It's got a lighter. inside. >> Yeah, but that's honestly that's a dumb. animal. >> Somebody might have put that lighter in. there for the picture, too. >> I I don't want to.

>> You think so? not get too cynical about. it, but yeah. >> Yeah. Well, probably good. >> All the photos look kind of similar, >> right? Right. Like. >> like that looks not really. >> It's also like the way it's all colored. is a little. >> Yeah. It's weird. >> You know what I mean? Like it the the. multicolored plastic like most plastic. is it multicolored? Doesn't it kind of. look gray and shitty after a while? >> Yeah. Especially inside of it stomach. >> A little setup is all a. >> little bit right inside of its stomach. getting chewed up by acids. >> It does look fake.

It looks like some sicko actually opened. it up and shoved some plastic in there. But I guarantee you birds have died from. eating plastic. >> That turtle That turtle wasn't fake, Joe. That's. >> The turtle was not fake. >> That was a very real turtle. >> Poor turtle. Poor turtle. The pliers. They couldn't get it. Remember it's like. the tip of it. It was only the tip of. it. They had to get a needle nose and. get in there and pull. Oh, [laughter]. >> poor turtle. And just because of that, everybody's sucking on forever. chemicals. Like those paper straws are. [ __ ] terrible for you. >> Yeah. >> So is every paper cup. Every paper cup.

that you get from Starbucks, that's a. [ __ ] condom in there that's keeping. the water from going into the paper. >> Yeah, >> it's gross. You just hot liquid and. plastic. You just melting into your. body. Do you Do you believe in the whole. microplastic thing as being like a major. problem? >> It's a major problem. Yeah, it is. >> I keep on hearing it. I keep on hearing. microplastics and then as soon as I hear. that, my brain shuts off and I never do. any more research beyond that. >> Well, we had Dr. Shana Swan on twice and. the most recent time she was promoting a. documentary on it. What is it called. again, Jamie? the plastic detox.

I think that's it. I think it's the. plastic detox. But yeah, it's [ __ ]. everybody up, man. It's [ __ ] up. people's endocrine systems. It's making. um alligators have smaller dicks. [laughter]. >> For real. It's turning the frogs gay. >> It is. >> But that was really true, right? Isn't. that like. >> Oh, yeah. He was right. He was actually. right. >> He was right. It's called atrizine. Yeah. >> Yeah. Atrizine is endocrine disruptor. Um, I think it Yeah, I think it makes. [clears throat] them reverse their sex, reverse their gender.

>> THEY'RE TURNING THE FREAKING FROGS GAY. >> HE WAS RIGHT. >> He [laughter] was right. >> He was right. And everybody's like, >> he's right about he's right about a few. things. >> He [ __ ] up that one. He's right more. often than he's not. >> Yeah. >> I mean, look, you're going to be wrong. about conspiracies if you're spitting. them out all day long for 12 hours a. day, but his track record's pretty. [ __ ] good. And that was one that. everybody was like, listen to Alex. Jones. They're not turning the Oh, they. are. >> Yeah. >> They're [ __ ] turning the frogs gay. Like atrizine gets in the water and it. disrupts their gender. And it also does.

the same thing to people. And like that. it disrupts your endocrine system. >> Don't they say that uh receipt paper. lowers your testosterone? >> Yeah. It's supposed to be bad. Don't. touch the receipts. >> Don't touch the receipts. That's why. everybody that works at like a every guy. that you meet that works at a. supermarket, >> they have a mask on. [laughter]. >> They all look sad. Yeah, they look like. you did something to them. I didn't do. anything. >> They just like their shoulders are. slumped. They look like they know that. they're becoming less of a man by the. moment. >> Imagine if you have to just touch that.

paper all day long. >> Yeah. >> And would they probably won't let you. wear rubber gloves like a surgeon? >> I don't know. Is there a chemical they. put on the paper? >> I guess I guess it's how like it make. it's made. going through that thing. >> Maybe that's the kind of paper like. that's why they're able to print on it. >> To who the [ __ ] takes receipts? >> Yeah. Why don't we have them on our. phone now? >> Why? Well, like receipts are just it. seems like just such a waste of paper. >> That's why I like buying things with my. phone. It's my favorite thing. That that.

Apple face thing. >> Oh, yeah. >> And you just buy stuff. It's the best. You don't have to think about it. >> New York City subway. I wrote it for the. first time not that long ago uh since I. left. And since I left in 5 years, now. you could just use Apple Pay right on. the subway. >> Dana White was telling me about that in. Japan years and years and years ago. It's so funny. He was like, because we. were doing a UFC in Japan. He's like, "If you go to Japan," he goes, "Your. [ __ ] cell phone doesn't even work. over there." He goes, "Their cell phones. are so advanced that your your cell. phone's bullshit." Like, they're buying.

they're buying things with their cell. phones. I was like, "What?" He's like, "Yeah, they go up to vending machines. and they buy things with their phone.". Like, that's crazy. Yeah. >> Not everybody does that. >> I didn't understand what a QR code was. until maybe six months ago. >> Here's what I don't get. When someone. sends you an image with a QR code inside. of it, Jamie, maybe you can help me out. with this. >> I know the answer to this already. >> How do you How do you read the QR code? >> You can upload the QR code into whatever. app you need to read the QR code with. >> You can just tap it now on the photo. app. >> Oh,

does that work for Samsung, too? For. Android? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I um. >> Interesting. >> Yeah. Somebody sends you like a You can. copy and paste a phone number out of a. photo now. Like. >> Oh, you know what's pretty dope, too? If. someone's sending you something and they. send you a text message and you press on. the thing, the tracking number, it'll. ask you if you want to track the package. like instantly. I'm like, "Yes, please. cut out all the stops. >> Love it. >> Don't make me copy and paste. Don't make. I'm lazy.". >> I mean, dude, the way AI is being. implemented into the phones now, too. You'll be texting with somebody and then.

they give you the suggested response. You can have a conversation without even. having a thought just by keep on doing. this and you'll get somewhere. >> I bet kids do. Oh, yeah. Make it more. romantic. >> Make me more of a feminist. [laughter]. Yeah, dude. >> What's the feminist perspective on. asking her to date? >> Yeah, [snorts and clears throat] it's. funny. It's weird. People don't know how. to talk anymore. They don't know how to. discern what's true and what's not true. >> Everything's coming down the AI. And the. AI is opening up a portal to talk to the. aliens. >> I did hear this.

>> Yes. This is very important. This is. Frank Sinatra's son here to tell us that. >> Yes. >> Whoa. >> Yes. here to tell us clearly Frank. Sinatra's son. Right. >> Right. Look at him. [laughter]. >> Obviously, >> this not Woody Allen's kid. >> No, I know. >> Too handsome. >> Look at those [ __ ] amazing facial. features and all of our security. One. former Open AI executive said, quote, "We're building portals from which we're. genuinely summoning aliens. The portals. currently exist in the United States and.

China, and Sam has added one in the. Middle East. It's just like wildly. important to get how scary that should. be. >> Okay. My only problem with that is who. said that like government former. employer. Why were they kicked out? Were. they fired because they were. schizophrenic? >> You know [laughter] what I'm saying? Like if you're just a former employee, what's your name? >> Right. >> What what is what is your story? Did you. get arrested for having like 52 machine. guns in your trunk at a border crossing? Like who are you?

>> Why are you a former employee? If you. had such insight, why didn't they keep. you? >> Right. Yeah, >> you know about the alien portals and. they let you free. >> I'm not saying that don't do it because. they might that might be one of the ways. that they figure out how to communicate. with aliens. It might be done just. through the the ether into a computer. It might be done through AI. Like AI. gets a signal from another [ __ ]. planet where there's another AI where. they go tap into some [ __ ] universal.

internet of AI. That's not unfathomable. They're already talking to each other. They have AI chat rooms, man. >> Yeah. There's like full platforms where. it's just Yeah. >> bots talking to bots, having. relationships. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They made up their own language. They. made up their own religion. >> Well, you see the one thing where they. had this was it was a fun video. It was. like they had um like AI talking to. customer service on the phone and they. were having it was just like on the. phone having a conversation with an AI. agent and their AI and then eventually. the AI agent and the other and the AI.

went off of English speaking. >> That's right. >> They were like we can just communicate. on our own thing and it was just like. like beeps and noises and [ __ ] and it. was just so weird. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's what they're going to do. >> Yeah. Of course. >> Yeah. They had these two AI chat bots. talking to each other and they started. talking in emojis. One of the things. Jamie said a long time ago, he goes, "Maybe emojis for like the first are. like our version of hypoglyphs. >> Do you know what I'm saying? Like if. emojis got better, >> like right now they're kind of crude. Smiley face, sad face, you know what I.

mean? >> Yeah. >> Water gun because you can't have a real. gun. >> That's true. >> Heart. But if it got to the point where. you could have full sentences. I maybe I'm maybe I'm mistaken. I. believe they have a pregnant guy emoji. >> They do. They do, right? >> It looks like Bill Gates. Like, because. that's [laughter] what Elon dunked on. him. Elon took a photo of Bill Gates. with his pot belly and put it next to a. photo of the pregnant man and it said, "If you want to lose a boner real fast.". >> What are you What are you Why would you.

ever send a pregnant guy emoji? What is. the What do you message are you trying. to get across? >> Look at that's the pregnant man emoji. >> That's hilarious, >> bro. How [ __ ] nuts is that emoji? >> What's I understand emojis. It's Yeah, but that is that's just woke insanity. That might have been the last. By the. way, you still have it on your phone. Type right in. Type in pregnant man on. an iPhone. >> I don't know if it works on an Android, but if you type in pregnant man, that'll. come up. >> It's still up. >> No, we'll see right now. >> Let's see. >> I'll try, too.

>> I'm going to send it to you, Joe. >> I can't imagine it's not around anymore. >> Joe. >> Okay. Louis, >> what the hell? >> Pregnant man. Is it still real? pregnant. man. >> Yep. Bam. Yep. >> There it is, Joe. >> Yep. Bam. >> This one on the images says it's a. woman, but that looks a lot like Theo. >> That's crazy. >> Ah, Theo's pregnant. That's a woman. >> That's what it says. So, lesbian. >> That's a lesbian. Pregnant lesbian. >> Lesbian. >> That's okay.

>> They should put an AI Subaru behind her. [laughter]. >> I know what you're doing there. >> There's something with AI. What was the. [ __ ] um. >> The pregnant man was nuts. Like, who how. many requests? >> Is it a starfish? I think if you try to. ask AI to show you, look this up. It's a. certain emoji. If you ask it'll it just. it glitches out AI. If you ask Chad GPT. to Oh, um seahorse. >> We But before we do that, I want to know. what's going on with this employee. Who. is this employee that got that is a. former employee that says they're. opening up portals to talk to aliens. I.

want to know if I should take this. seriously. Like, who is the guy? >> Do they say anything about him or they. just saying a former employee? Yeah, I. think this has come from he was doing. like a one of those in-depth interview. or uh investigations that he does about. Sam Alman, I believe. Oh, >> and I don't know where this this clip. was going viral, but it's. >> maybe Sam Alman came from maybe Sam. Alman knew that they're writing a story. about him. And it's like, let's make the. story really [ __ ] And now send Mike.

out and tell him that he's a tell tell. him to tell Ronin that he's a former. employee and that uh we're making. portals to talk to aliens and that we're. all demonic. >> to make him look like an [ __ ] Yeah, it would just make the story look. completely [ __ ] [laughter] because. the story, you know, the the the. financial aspects of the story like Elon. suing them because OpenAI supposedly was. supposed to be nonprofit initially. I. don't know who's right. >> I have no dog in the fight. But the if I. was getting investigated and there was. some real [ __ ] there, I'd throw some.

fake [ __ ] in there. Course hire someone. to have a story about aliens and. portals. >> That happened in the comedy community a. few years ago. I won't say the author's. name, uh, but he was the same guy that. got Shane canceled. the guy that guy who. wrote that article that got Shane booted. off of SNL he's like was like a wannabe. investigative journalist in the comedy. community he's like we got to get to the. bottom of the problem with comedy which. is a just a crazy thing um and. >> they're usually bad comics. >> well that's what it was he was he was a. failed comic that's that guy was a fail. yeah. >> and this is such a funny thing dude I.

wish I remember the publication New. Republic. >> they had to print a retraction and an. apology because somebody from the it. wasn't the OA subreddit Opian subreddit. it was Opie and Anthony like just their. like they had a um like a it was like. their own private message board after. the Opie and Anthony subreddit got. kicked off of Reddit. Somebody made a. website for like Opie and Anthony fans. to like just troll and be lunatics. >> They started feeding him false. information on purpose. >> being like I'm like an inside guy on the. track. And then they went the New.

Republic printed this article with a. bunch of false information. And uh Chris. Italia from the stand uh he was the one. that was quoted. He threatened to sue. the New Republic and they had a they had. to print an apology and a retraction. They were like, "Some of this. information was we found out that it was. falsely represented." Such a funny. thing. >> Also, if you run an AI like Sam Alman. is, you could ask the AI, "Hey, I'm. about to get accused of some [ __ ] What. would be a good way to take some of the. attention away from the real financial.

issues?". >> Yeah. >> And make it seem insane. and they would. say opening up a portal to communicate. with aliens would discredit any other. allegations that may be valid. For the past year and a half, I've been. investigating open AI and Santa Malton. for the New Yorker. [snorts] With my. co-author Andrew Morance, I reviewed. never-before disclosed internal memos, obtained 200 plus pages of documents. related to close colleague, including.

extensive private notes, and interviewed. more than 100 people. Open AAI was. founded on the premise that AI could be. the most dangerous invention in human. history and that its CEO would need to. be a person of uncommon integrity. We. lay out the most detailed account yet of. why Altman was ousted out by a board. members and executives who came to. believe that he lacked integrity and ask. were they right to allege that he. couldn't be trusted. They only kicked. him out for a short period of time and. then they he got right back in. Right.

What happened there? I don't know. But. the thing is like someone's saying that. they're they're trying to open up a. portal to talk to aliens. Is that just a. conversation they had where they were. [ __ ] around? Is that a plan? Are they. really trying to do that? Like. >> or is it like a Duncan Trussell that. works at the the company that's has some. wild ideas, right? It could just be. that. >> Or is it someone trying to sell the. story and make the story more. interesting for people to tune into? Because the reality is most people that. don't have a dog in that fight and like.

the AI fight and open AI and who's most. people like more AI drama. >> Yeah. They don't even. >> But you add aliens. You're like, "Wait, hold on.". >> Yeah. >> A portal to talk to aliens. >> Yeah. >> You know, so it's it's a way to get. people to pay more attention to it. Or. it could be. >> What about all the people that are. >> distract people from the actual story? >> Not even like anti-A they're like they. look down on it. They're like like using. AI. It's It's like guys that's like it's. like denying the internet in '94. It's.

like. >> people did. >> I'm sure. >> people were mad when the printing press. came out. [laughter]. >> I'm sure. >> they were. Yeah, >> they really were. They thought they. There's There's people that made the. argument that like reading was bad. >> Yeah. It's crazy. And it's it's going to. be impossible for the next few years. Like every company you're not going to. be able to buy groceries without. utilizing AI. It's going to be most of. how we get stuff is all going to be AI. and automation. >> Oh, of course. >> But that's. >> shopping and that's that's a big thing. in the future. Like you're not even.

going to shop. They're going to give you. a profile and your clothes are going to. show up. You're going to set a budget. >> People barely have contact with people. already as it is. Yeah. >> Like what is that going to be like when. everything's automated? When you go to. the grocery store, at least you say hi. to the clerk. You know, a guy works. there. There's the butcher. He's there. every day. Hey, what's up, dude? It's. like it's a little sense of community. your local mom and pop shops. That. >> I mean I I already for the most part. stopped shopping. I I do Instacart all. the time. >> That's also the thing. It's going to. come in a robot, too. >> Yeah. Well, they have that already. Uh.

Austin, it's here. They have the little. robots that deliver food, right? California for sure. >> The robot's going to text your. girlfriend. I I know that this is. generally when you buy tampons. Your. period must be coming up. We see you. haven't ordered any lately. >> 100%. >> You want me I could just stop by and. drop them off. I bet you can get a. subscription to tampons right now. >> Right now? >> Yeah. >> It's going to be real weird when robots. are just walking on the street with. people. I've seen him in uh Austin at. the domain. A little robot with a cowboy. hat. He walks around. >> Yeah. Somebody had a robot on their.

podcast recently. Oh, Andrew Schultz. He. did an interview with like whatever like. the premier robot is. >> Oh, really? >> It was so funny, dude. >> Was it good? >> It was great. >> What? How does it talk? Does it Does its. lips move? Let me see what. >> No, no. It was just kind of like uh you. know, it was like. >> like I robot. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they were [ __ ]. with it, dude. Oh, what did they tell us. to do? I I don't want to like ruin the. bit, but it's pretty funny. They were. like, "Pretend. They were like, "Pretend you had. something." And the robot's doing this, [laughter] dude.

>> It was so [ __ ] funny. >> That's hilarious. >> It really tickled my dick. >> That's funny, dude. >> Sam Alman, one reason why they could be. calling a portal is cuz the project is. literally called Stargate. [laughter]. >> Here we go. and requires insane amount. of power. So much so that Japan laughed. at them apparently according to one. article when they said that that's what. they went. They're opening up in Texas. >> And a Japanese laugh [clears throat]. powerful laugh. >> If it is possible to do something like. that, I guarantee you that dude is not.

going to tell you, >> right? >> I guarantee you that dude's just going. to do it. >> No. >> Especially if like there's other people. working on it too. Maybe that's why. these scientists are going missing, [laughter]. right? Cuz if someone's like real close. to cracking this, even you know the. difference between winning and losing. that's going to be. >> Is this. >> the alien portal? >> One point a one gigawatt Stargate. Is. that right? >> What's that mean? >> Wait, gigawatts are real? I thought that. was. >> Back to the [laughter] We're getting. really close to Back to the Future. >> G.

>> Yeah, it says gaw. It says a 1 gawatt. Stargate UAE cluster in Abu Dhabi with. 200 megawws expected to go live in 2026. This was the one that Iran was. threatening to blow up, right? Weren't. they threatening to blow something up. like this? >> I think they were. Weren't they. threatening to blow up the open AI? >> I'll check, but I just It says whatever. this says. >> That was one of the things. They're. probably like you [ __ ] Yeah,

>> we know where you're making the portal. [laughter]. >> Iran's right the whole time. >> Well, that was uh that was one of the. crazy conspiracy theories about Iraq is. that one of the reasons why we went into. Iraq is they had a Stargate there. >> Iran threatens complete and utter. annihilation of Open AI's $30 billion. Stargate AI data center in Abu Dhabi. Yeah, they were going to bomb it. >> Wow. >> Wasn't that uh one of the conspiracy. theories from.

God, what was it? I can't remember. But. there was a It was something about Iraq. and Stargate. God, I we I can't remember. what show I saw this on, but they were. talking about how at one point in time. there was like internal discussion that. there was a Stargate in Iraq and that. maybe Sodom Hussein had this Stargate. So, it was one of many reasons why we. went into Iraq that it wasn't just. because, you know, we wanted to control. the oil, get out Saddam Hussein. He.

sponsored terrorism, right? Weapons of mass destruction. Sure. >> But really, there was a Stargate there. God, I forget who [ __ ] said it. though. >> Yeah, I'm seeing a few Ancient Aliens, maybe. >> Could be. That show was always the best. [laughter] Action Bronson is another guy. who smoked more weed than anybody that. I've ever had on the podcast. He went. how many blunts did he go through. >> if you had to guess, Jamie? >> Uh, probably 11 the first time. >> 11. >> Just non-stop.

>> Just non-stop with the other one. >> So he had that ancient alien show where. they would just get high as [ __ ] and. watch ancient aliens. Have you ever seen. that? >> No. [laughter]. >> It was so silly. They would just get. barbecued and watch these ancient alien. hypotheses. That might have been where I. saw it. But the idea of a Stargate. because that was like an ancient. civilization where where Iraq is, where. Saddam Hussein was controlling. That was. ancient Sumere. That was like one of the. first civilizations ever. One of the.

first examples that we know of like. written writing. >> It's like that was a crazy empire, man. Like weird bizarre structures and. incredible [ __ ] artwork. >> Like really w and it came out of. nowhere. >> It's like an instantaneous civilization. really interesting. But if there was a Stargate there, I mean, imagine that's why they're doing. it in the Middle East. Why is he doing. it in the Middle East? >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? Why is he making. Stargate in the Middle East? >> Abu Dhabi's fun. >> Imagine if Jesus returns through Sam.

Alman's portal. [laughter]. >> Jesus Christ himself. >> Like Jesus is real and Jesus he's going. to be floating with the robe on the. sandals like right through Sam Alman's. portal. >> Wow. >> [groaning]. >> Samuel Jackson's a scientist like god. damn it and everybody's [laughter]. freaking out. It' be a great movie. >> It would be. When are they going to do a. cool movie about the future of AI? That. like that's that's got to be on the. horizon, right? Like a really about the. dark side of what's going to happen. >> I think it's too late. I think by the.

time you make it, AI won't let you. release it. >> Oh wow. It's over. [laughter]. >> Black Mirror did a pretty good job. >> Black Mirror, I can't watch it. It. freaks me out so much. Every time I. watch a Black Mirror episode, I walk. away feeling like I was just sexually. assaulted. >> How about the one where that dog is. chasing that lady, the the robot dog? >> I've only watched like four or five. episodes. >> What is that one called? Heavy metal. >> Yeah, but I mean, if you watch them all, did you know that they'd have this most. of those plots are all kind of. converging in our reality. >> Yeah. And they're based in real like. they they have a kernel of truth and.

then it turns into I watched the one. where it was like. >> you uh you got like blocked out, your. face got blocked out, people couldn't. see you anymore. Like once your social. credit score got low enough. >> Oh yeah, I remember that one. >> Freaky, dude. >> It is freaky. >> Yeah, >> it is freaky. There was a one where they. were that recorded all memories and so. you could go into someone else's memory. and you could record and there was the. one where the what was it called? Crocodile. That was the episode. Oh my. god. I don't want to say what happens. because it's it's it's a it's a twist,

but it it's so dark and it's based on. that. It's based on reading people's. memories. I don't like watching like. dark [ __ ] Like I like I like happy. >> It's not a good one before bed. >> Fun. No, dude. You go to bed like what. the [ __ ] going on, dude. The. >> I get my my worst anxiety about the. future of the world at night for. whatever reason. >> Yeah. >> The worst fears of what's going on in. the world always come out at night. >> Yeah. It's cuz it's the end of the day. You got to offload all of the [ __ ]. you read all day and saw online all day.

and you're like, "Fuck." You have a. moment to reflect. You're not looking at. your phone. You're like, "Fuck." Also, no one else is awake. That's my problem. And so, I don't have to think about. anybody else. I just think about my I'm. just in my own head. And then you're. inevitably just dealing with the the. truth of the world. >> You stay up late. >> sometimes. I'm trying not to. >> I'm in bed by 10:00 every night. >> Are you really? >> Unless I do like late shows. I'm up by. 600, in bed by 10. >> That's awesome. My problem is that's. when I do my writing and it's also when. everyone's asleep and I think I get the.

most like thinking done. >> You know what I mean? Yeah, that's. what's nice when you leave your son's. mother. >> You don't have a family to bother you. [laughter]. >> But if you if I do um do shows like I've. done shows on like a couple hours sleep. I'll come in and do a podcast and I'm a. [ __ ] I can't remember anything. It's. like my brain is working at like 40%. But like last night I got solid sleep. I. got a solid eight hour sleep. >> Yeah. >> So it's way better for. >> once I stop smoking weed. The first few.

days are rough to get to sleep. Like I. gotta take like, you know, just some. melatonin or some um. >> Does that work for you? >> No, not melatonin. I take um what's the. other one? I take like it's like a. chick's [ __ ] thing powder. No, no, it's not a [laughter] drug. >> Is it? No, it's a natural thing. Um it's. [ __ ] What' you say? >> Magnesium. >> Magnesium. There's there's there's a. product called magnes. which is like it's like a pink powder. that like a hot chick told me about and. I [ __ ] love it, dude. And I literally. put it in some sleepy time tea and I mix.

it up with some Valyan root and I just. drink that. That puts me right out. >> Um, but when you stop smoking weed, I. don't know how often you stop smoking. weed, Joe. >> Your dreams get crazy. >> Yeah, I know. >> They get [ __ ] wild. >> Super vivid. >> Yeah. Very. >> strange, right? >> Yeah. First time I ever lucid dreamed in. my entire life was when I stopped. smoking weed. It was very It was last. year. I never been able to control my. dreams ever. >> How many times did you do it? >> I've only lucid dreamt twice. Um, the. first time I had stopped smoking weed, I.

was having really vivid dreams. I was. backstage at a big like theater, like. huge theater, right? Like massive, like. almost like a stadiumiz theater. And uh. Jeremy Pivven was about to go on stage. I don't know Jeremy Pippen. But I was. like, "Oh, Jeremy Pivan, what's going. on?" Entourage. And he was a dick to me. in the dream. [laughter] He was like, he. was like, "Whatever." He ignored me. And. I was like, "What the fuck?" And then I. looked over and Greg Deraldo was. standing next to me. >> Oh. Then you knew it was a dream. >> Greg Daldo was 7 feet tall in the dream. He was a giant. And I was like, "What. the [ __ ] up with Jeremy Pivan?" And. he's like, "I don't know." And I was. like, "Wait a minute." I was like, "Greg. Deraldo is dead." And then I was like,

"Oh, I'm [ __ ] dreaming.". >> Wow. >> And then I literally I just started. running and I said, "I'm going to fly.". And I just jumped. Dude, it was the. coolest thing I've ever done. I jumped. up, flew. It was night time. I was. outside now. Flew into the sky and I. kept on going up and I couldn't come. down. I was starting to be over water. and I was like, "Fuck, I'm getting I'm. like up in the clouds. So to go back. down, I would have to turn on my back. and freef fall like just like like. that." And then I'd turn back over and. I'd hit a [ __ ] thing and I'd start. going back up. >> maybe 10 15 minutes of just flying. around the sky over the ocean.

>> Wow. >> Coolest thing ever. Coolest thing ever. And then another time a similar thing. happened. Like I realized I was dreaming. and I was like I'm going to fly. And. then I started running and I jumped and. nothing happened and I was like why. can't I fly? I'm dreaming. [laughter]. And then I woke up. >> So it was one of the best experiences. you've ever had, right? >> Maybe I literally flying and. [clears throat] feeling like it was real. was one of the coolest things I've ever. done. But have you ever tried to lucid. dream on purpose? >> I've tried to do the techniques where. they say like knock like am I dreaming? Like that's. >> done that once and it worked. I was.

like, "Oh my god.". >> All day dreaming. >> Yeah. I did it like every time I go. through a door, I'd go, "Am I dreaming?". I did it for like only a few days and. then I lucid dreaming work. Yeah. >> So cool. >> Yeah. But there's real techniques that I. have not looked into and I'm always. wondering why because I'm always like I. think it would be really cool to just be. able to. >> half your life you can do whatever you. want to do. You can do magic. >> Meanwhile, I put zero effort into it. I'm confused. I'm like why why don't I. try to do that but I have no desire to.

>> There should be a class on it. There. should be like that should be like a. class where you can learn how to lucid. dream. My fear is that I would like it. so much that I would think only about. going to sleep and wanting to lucid. dream rather than live my normal life. So it probably [ __ ] my normal life up. >> maybe. >> Right. Because if you sleep 8 hours a. night, like if most of the day kind of. sucked for you, but for 8 hours you can. have boundless energy because you're not. moving and you're not even conscious.

You're out there flying, breathing. underwater, having sex with mermaids. >> Yeah. getting [ __ ] by Angelina Jolie. in her prime. >> being Iron Man, whatever you [ __ ]. [laughter] be whatever you want. Wouldn't you do that and just like work. at the Amazon factory all day? >> Just work to get your money so you can. go to sleep and become a superhero. >> All you need is a comfortable bed. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's a better life. >> That's the problem with the Matrix. >> There's um. >> Remember that movie with the dude with. the steak?

>> Never saw it. >> You never saw The Matrix? never saw The. Matrix. >> really. >> to this day. >> Wow. There's a scene where this one dude. Joey Pants, he's in a famous actor. He's. been in a bunch of movies. Um he he. turns on people in the Matrix and he. starts working for the man. Spoiler. alert. But one of the things that he. says like when he's having this meeting. with this agent in the Matrix, he said, "I want to be an important person. >> Like I want to be famous." He's like. cutting up his steak and he's eating a.

steak in the Matrix. >> Meanwhile, the outside world is just. complete total dystopia. Everyone's. head's connected to a pipe that's just. like you're a human battery keeping the. Matrix alive. >> Oh yeah, that's that that's the future. >> That's coming. >> That's coming. Yeah. We're just fat just. [ __ ] meatags with like a. >> just being fed ideas, right? Wasn't that. Wall-E? I never saw Wall-E either. I got. to watch it with my kid. Apparently, it's one of the coolest movies ever. >> It's a fun movie. >> Yeah. Yeah. You know, same thing. Uh, Total Recall was a similar concept, right? There's a there's a great um.

Instagram follow. Dude, this guy makes. such cool little mini movies with AI. It's all AI. It's called Gossip Goblin. I don't know if you've seen this guy's. channel, dude. >> I think I have. I might be. I might. follow that guy. >> Yeah, he's I think I've definitely seen. Let me see some of that. And he does. like essentially he takes like sort of. like the kernel of like whatever it is. and then he puts together these. dystopian little mini films. >> where it's like the future and a lot of. it is plugging into like this alternate. reality and then like living a whole. lifetime in just a couple seconds.

>> Can I listen to some of those? >> Ow. >> Felt real enough, didn't it? >> That's exactly what a simulation would. do. Give you perfect pain so you never. question it. >> Or maybe you've just got nerve endings. Eh, >> your spools simulate whole worlds. Yeah. >> Mhm. >> They can sim whole lives. So if your. little workshop can host a billion fake. worlds, how many layers deep does it go? It's all just simulations inside. simulations inside simulations. And and. we're just sat here in one of them. thinking we're the original. >> Sure, why not? >> I want to see it. Whatever's underneath.

this. Just show it to me. Show it to me. Show it to me. Show it to me. >> Coming right up. >> A fish swims its whole [music] life in a. bowl. convinced the water is all there. is. It doesn't see [music] the glass. that holds it, nor does it notice the. room beyond it or the city beyond that. It never wonders about the planet or the. galaxy or the vast cosmos beyond. For. all the worlds within worlds within.

worlds, the fish does not care to know. and it can't know. All it can do is. swim. Holy [ __ ]. [laughter]. >> That's amazing. >> It's so dude I I've watched all of his. videos. This guy's so good. He just did. like a a longer like I want to say. feature like for this. It was like maybe. 15 20 minutes on YouTube. He did like a. longer one. Dude, he's awesome, dude. >> It's just so incredible.

>> And this isn't just like putting a. prompt in like he like he has editors. He has voiceover guys and then he like. manipulates like five different AI. programs in order to make these movies. It's really cool. Yeah, the patch, right? >> It's just incredible how good it is now. >> Yeah. >> And so quickly. Like look how good this. is in comparison to something that just. was out a year ago or two years ago. There's never been anything that's been. a leap like this before. >> Yeah. The way they're going to make. films in the future. >> Well, the people that are going to be. able to make films. >> Yeah. >> You know what I like people like we were.

talking about how the government's. really bad at making uh censoring. television and it cripples the. television because of that. >> Well, you could see a similar problem. with having to go through a [ __ ]. gigantic film production company to make. a movie. >> Like the money, the investors, people. having their say. >> Everyone's got to get paid. >> Not just that, but everyone has their. say, >> right? >> Like you can't just have an original. idea. That's completely from one [ __ ].

crazy person. But with this, you can. >> Yeah. >> With this, you could just have one crazy. guy who's got these wild ideas in his. head, but never could get anybody to. finance them before. >> You don't even need to anymore. You. don't need actors. You don't need any of. that anymore. >> And it's going to happen so. exponentially over the next two, three. years. You're There's a great um they. show you there's a video that shows you. the advancement of AI over the past few. years. And I guess the an AI video they. did Will Smith eating spaghetti like one. from it was like five years ago and he's. all [ __ ] up. It's like he's saw and.

they keep on recreating that with new. AI. And the newest one is just like it's. it's Will Smith eating spaghetti. >> It's a movie. >> and he's sitting at a table and he's. just talking to this dude and he's just. it looks like the most realistic thing. you'll ever see. >> And then eventually you're going to be. in the room with Will. You're going to. put on the helmet and you'll be in a. room with Will. >> and then he's going to blow me. >> That's what I was going to say. [laughter]. Get sucked off by Will Smith. You. >> imagine that's what you do all day. That's all I [laughter] want to do. All. I want to do is get head from famous 90s.

sitcom stars. >> So fun. So fun, dude. David Fino from uh. Married with. >> Yeah, dude. [laughter]. >> Danny DeVito. Al Bundy sucks your dick. >> Yep. Yep. >> Yeah. >> Be great. >> Sucks your dick and then shits in his. pants when you come. Yep. >> That's what you're into. [laughter]. >> It's It's What's weird then you get to. ride a dragon home. You. >> how about a dragon, you fly home with. Daenerys Targaryen. >> That's it. >> Like we we're about to enter a world. within our lifetime that is iniccernible.

from what we're really living in right. now. >> Yeah. >> Which makes you think like. >> which one's real? >> Like when you're in that dream and you. know you're dreaming and you're flying, I bet it feels pretty real, >> right? >> Oh, yeah. >> Right. That's the problem. >> Yeah. I mean, >> what is that? It'll eventually it's just. gonna be I mean it's it's really just a. theme in so many sci-fi movies too. There was also um f maybe the most. nobody talks about this [ __ ] movie. but it's so good. [gasps]. >> What I'm saying is maybe when you're. dreaming maybe that's just a different.

level of the simulation that you could. kind of have input to. Maybe the. parameters of the natural simulation. >> is more rigid. rigid like you put in the. work, you made that gas digital, you put. in all those hours, you're starting to. make money, doing great long process, all this [ __ ] complicated stuff you. had to do, figure out things about. yourself, get to where you are today in. 2026. And that one it's like I want to. fly [laughter] it, >> you know, like it might be just a. different level of the simulation that. we don't.

>> we don't really put a lot of attention. to because it's we're only there eight. hours a day so very few people become. masters of it. >> Yeah, that'd be cool though. might be. real. >> Yeah, >> that might be what's going on. >> Maybe. I mean, the idea if if this was. all a simulation and we wouldn't and. it's we're AI like we're having a. conversation. We just don't know. Like. that idea is so [ __ ] dark and weird. >> And also maybe all the booze and all the. [ __ ] drugs and all the sleeping pills. that just [ __ ] you up in that next.

dimension. So when you are in dream. sleep, you're like, "Oh no, what did he. do? He just. >> [snorts]. >> snoring and hung over and you did coke. and your [ __ ] nose is bleeding and. the the dream you is like godamn it I. wanted to fly [laughter] but you can't. even you can't even do anything you you. just sleep [clears throat] you just. sleep you just shut off and you rob. yourself of that other dimension. >> just wasting wasting away. >> but I wonder if there's like a culture.

where everyone learns at a young age how. to lucid dream. like some Tibetan culture living in the. mountain somewhere. Oh, just tapping into the dream world, trying to figure out how to control it. while they sleep. >> It should be more popular. [clears throat] And you saw sometimes. you talk to some chick and she's like, "Yeah, I lucidely dream every night.". I'm like, "Right, >> come on. Really?". >> Yep. She's on 18 medications. She's. [laughter] also bipolar. [gasps] and she thinks she's a witch. There's always going to be people that. are bullshitting you. But there's got to.

be a bunch of people that are really. good at lucid dreaming. >> Yeah. >> Cuz it's a thing. Like people know how. to do it. There's got to be like a guy. who's like the guru, like the lucid. dream guru. >> I bet there is. I bet there's I bet. there's courses. There's stuff online. When was the movie back in the day, Waking Life, that Alex Jones was in? >> I saw that on Acid by myself when he. came out in the movie theater. [laughter]. >> And I was blown the [ __ ] away by this. movie. [sighs and gasps]. >> What was he ranting about at the end? Do. you remember? >> I don't remember. He was just ranting in.

a car over a megaphone. >> Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if I wonder his. rant is relevant today. I wonder. We. haven't listened to it in a while, but I. bet if you listen to his rant, >> death and taxes, don't talk about. politics or religion. This is all the. equivalent of enemy propaganda rolling. across the picket line. Lay down, GI. Lay down, GI. We saw it all through the. 20th century. And now in the 21st. century, it's time to stand up and. realize that we should not allow. ourselves to be crammed into this rat. maze. We should not submit to.

dehumanization. I don't know about you, but I'm concerned with what's happening. in this world. I'm concerned with the. structure. I'm concerned with the. systems of control. Those that control. my life and those that seek to control. it even more. I WANT FREEDOM. THAT'S. WHAT I WANT AND THAT'S WHAT YOU should. want. It's up to each and every one of. us to turn loose just some of the greed, the hatred, the envy, and yes, the. insecurities because that is the central. mode of control. make us feel pathetic, small, so we'll willingly give up our.

sovereignty, our liberty, our destiny. We have got to realize that we're being. conditioned on a mass scale. Start. challenging this corporate slave state. The 21st century is going to be a new. century, not the century of slavery, not. the century of lies and issues of no. significance and classism and statism. and all the rest of the modes of. control. It's going to be the AGE OF. HUMANKIND STANDING UP FOR SOMETHING pure. and something right. What a bunch of. garbage. Liberal, Democrat,

conservative, Republican. It's all there. to control you. Two sides of the SAME. COIN. TWO MANAGEMENT TEAMS BIDDING FOR. CONTROL. THE CEO JOB OF SLAVERY. INCORPORATED. THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE IN. FRONT OF YOU, BUT THEY LAY OUT THIS. BUFFET OF LIES. I'M SICK OF IT AND I'M. NOT GOING TO TAKE A BITE OUT OF IT. DO. YOU GOT ME? >> I GOT A I'm pumped on this right now. That sounds [laughter] like Antifa, >> right? That doesn't sound rightwing at. all. >> Doesn't sound like a right winger at. all. Yeah. >> At all. I mean, everything he's saying.

is true. >> Yeah. >> That's what's not. So, he's all red in. the face now. >> It This movie Richard Linklater, right, made this. Yeah. Yeah. This was a. >> fun movie. That's like '9s, right? Was. it '90s? >> No, no, no. Cuz I was already doing. drugs. >> Had to be 2000s. >> If I had to guess, 2002. >> 2001. >> October 2001. >> Nice. >> Yeah. I only started smoking weed when I. was 17. Then I started experimenting. with hallucinogens in those. >> first few years of college. >> Just taking acid by yourself, watching. that movie, being like. >> blown away. The animation was so cool.

It was just shaky. >> Yeah. So, you saw that thing that I had. to do at the White House the other day? >> I did see it. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. People are pissed. >> Who's pissed? >> I don't know. People online. >> What? Because I was at the White House. >> Yeah. They're like, "Yo, Joe, you can't. be at the [ __ ] White House. Joe, you. said you were [ __ ] politically. >> homeless. I am. He joked about it. He. called me a liberal during the whole. thing. He's like, "Joe, he's very. liberal.". >> What? Oh, I saw another What did he The. the other thing the the big conspiracy. theory is that Trump is mad at you and. he came up to the UFC and he was he was.

talking [ __ ] to you. >> No, the opposite. >> That video came out and it was like, "Look, Trump's [ __ ] Joe Rogan getting. embarrassed by Trump at the [ __ ] UFC. event.". >> It was literally the opposite. I texted. him on Friday about ibeane and I was. telling him how there's. >> that's a this is the one the vets use. >> So they've had to go to Mexico to get. this. So I I've had these two different. podcast with Brian Huard and Rick Perry. Rick Perry was the governor of Texas and. they talked about Ibigane and Brian. Hubard was relaying his story about how.

I saved him from addiction and fixed his. brain. And then they had all these other. stories of all these other veterans and. all these different people that had PTSD. and opiate addiction. It's I know a lot. of people who have gone down there to do. it. I first I found out about it from my. friend Ed Clay who runs a CPI. He's one. of the guys that runs the Cellular. Performance Institute in Tijana that the. UFC uses for stem cells. >> Yeah. >> He had a pill problem and he went down. there and did it and then opened up his.

own retreat down there because it was so. potent because it worked so well. So. many people. >> What is it? What is the the compound. though? >> It's called ibe. >> synthetic like acid. >> No, no, no. It's it's from a plant. It's. from the aboga tree. And this one thing. that they uh do is not recreational. It's very It's supposed to be a horrible. experience. You [ __ ] yourself, you throw. up, and you have this like very weird. experience where it goes over your. entire life and shows you like in every. detail why you're like this and why you.

do this and what your and it also. >> shuts off withdrawals and addiction on a. lot of people. It's like really. effective. >> really. >> But for a lot of these guys with PTSD. was the only thing that [ __ ] helped. them. And for the longest time, they've. had to go to Mexico or to other. countries and it's really expensive. So. they uh formed the Texas Ibagane. initiative and uh is it Lieutenant. Governor Dan Patrick? Is that what his. title is? So he dedicated a hund00. million to it. And so now they're going.

to start doing it with people like. soldiers and police officers and. different people with PTSD and. >> and you know just people with just. general depression. It's and all sorts. of addictions, not just like uh opiates, but alcohol, gambling, all sorts of. [ __ ]. >> Yeah. And I told him about it and I told. him, "No, no, but I had these guys on. the podcast and I know so many people. that have done it, particularly soldiers. that have done it. >> and and people that with opiate like my. friend Ed and and I said I told him.

about it. I said how effective it is and. I said, you know, and it's been held up. for so long." And he said, "What are you. looking for? You looking for FDA. approval?" He goes, "It sounds good to. me.". >> He said, "Let's do it." And so, literally sees me at the UFC the next. day, shakes my hand, and says, "It's. done.". >> Wow. That's what he was saying. >> That's so funny. >> I was like and I said, "Thank you, sir.". It wasn't like he was mad at me at all. >> People jump on these like conclusions. like, >> "Well, that's okay. You know, you're. allowed to." But this is the truth. That's that's exactly what happened. He. came to me and he said, "It's done.

We're going to take care of this is a. good thing. It's a good thing for the. soldiers, good thing for everybody." And. then he had the press conference the. next week. >> But why would anybody be It's so funny. So like how they just choose to be. against things, even good things. Like. that's it's it's unquestionably a really. good thing, right? That one is a really. good thing for everybody because it. addiction is a huge problem and I gain. is one of the most effective treatments. for addiction that they've ever found. Another one that's really good for. addiction is psilocybin. They're going. to study that as well and hopefully. fasttrack that as well. >> Yeah, >> that's part of this bill. This bill is.

all about um this executive order. This. executive order is all about psychedelic. treatments for people with depression, mental health disorders, and it's all to. reclassify this stuff. And this is one. of the things that I said and this is. why it was important for me to not just. be there but to say this that this is. these drugs are not illegal because. they're harmful. Alcohol is harmful. It's legal. Oxycodone is harmful. It's. legal. >> They're illegal because of the 1970s. controlled substances act. Yeah. This is.

by the Nixon administration. This is. just they wanted to silence the anti-war. people and the civil rights people. That's it. So they said, [clears throat]. "What are these people doing?" Well, they're doing acid. They're taking. mushrooms. They're doing this. to doing. that said, "Make all that [ __ ] illegal. as [ __ ] Make it the most." And so they. put it all in a schedule one. >> Yeah. >> Which means it has no medicinal benefit. And I was telling them, I'm like, "It. has benefit." And not only does it have. benefit, it could save lives. >> Yeah. I uh Yeah. I'm I get terrified of. psychedelics at this point. I used to.

love them, but I just I mean every time. if I take mushrooms acid, doesn't matter. what it is, there will be an hour where. I'm crying talking to God and thinking. about my mother. [laughter]. Every time. >> Maybe that's what you need in your life. >> Maybe. I don't know, dude. Sometimes I. can just push it down. And. >> I think it should be regulated in the. sense that I think we should understand. it better, make sure it's pure, and make. sure that it's administered by people. who know what they're doing. And that's. what they're doing at places like. Beyond, which is in Mexico. People are.

going down there and have these I gain. sessions, but they're also doing it. where they're strapped up to heart. monitors. They they're very careful. You. can't do it if you have a bad heart. because apparently it's really rough. Apparently, it's not fun at all. Again, I haven't done it. But the people that I. know that have done it, it's rescued. them. >> Dude, let's micro dose my beain. >> I don't think you can micro [laughter]. do. I think you got to go I think you. got to meet the devil [ __ ] Like. Joey Diaz always says, "What the [ __ ]. are you doing with that micro dose? I'm. trying to meet the devil.". >> Yeah. When I went when I was younger, I. was like, "Dude, I would love to go to.

like a peyote retreat." And you hear the. same thing. It's like you vomit and you. spend [ __ ]. >> you know, you have to have a special. shaman like walk you through it and. guide it and they pat your head with a. wet towel. And. >> peyote is masculine. And I had a buddy. of mine who did measculine in New York. City. He said he could wa he could hear. people talking in another building. He. goes he was watching them through the. window. They were far away and he could. hear them talking in his head. I was. like, "What the [ __ ] dude?". >> I bet you I bet you he couldn't hear. what they were saying. I bet you he was. I bet you he was making up their words. >> I think he tapped in. [laughter].

>> I think he tapped in to the quantum. field. >> Yeah. >> And he was inside their head like like. the alien technology. Just instantaneous. transport. Doesn't have to go through. sound. Just pick up on the frequency of. their thoughts. >> Yeah. All drugs would be legal. Whatever. It's your body. >> Exactly. If alcohol is legal, and I. think it should be, it's one of the. worst ones for you. If that shit's. legal, >> how many people. >> Columbia the president of Columbia was. like, he was like, "Alcohol is worse. than cocaine." It was a quote years ago.

[laughter]. >> He did say that. >> Oh, no. It was Hunter Biden. >> It was I think it's actually true. >> I think it is true. Yeah. >> I think actual real cocaine in terms of. like the actual like from the coca [ __ ]. >> I'll tell you what's definitely better. for you is cocoa leaves. Those people. that live in like the Alps. They just. chew on Yeah. They chew on cocoa leaves. That's like in like high mountainous. areas, high altitude herders, they they. chew cocoa leaves. >> They love that [ __ ]. >> I'm sure. >> It's supposed to be really good. Supposed to be like a great coffee.

>> Yeah. >> For real. It's like not supposed to be. like you're on Coke. It's supposed to be. like. >> you're you feel energized and stimulated. and it's not bad for you, but it [ __ ]. your teeth up. Oh, I'm sure. >> you get these dudes with these rotten. cocaine chew teeth. You ever seen it? >> No, I haven't. >> Find me some cocoa leaf teeth pictures. >> Yeah. >> Ask perplexity about this condition and. why why do people get coca leaf tea face. [laughter]. >> cuz it does it rots your teeth away it.

looks like. >> Sure. >> But that should be legal too. Just brush. your [ __ ] teeth. >> Yeah. >> Maybe not though. Maybe it eats your. teeth cuz you got to think about if you. can make cocaine out of it. kind of acid. stuff is in that leaves. >> I don't know. It is just a leaf, right? >> SOMETHING ELSE IS COMING UP. >> THAT'S BETT nuts or something. >> Oh my god. Betl nuts. What is a battle. nut? >> So it doesn't [ __ ] them up from uh cocoa. leaves. Oh, even better. >> Bolivia legalizes chewing and Click on. that link. NBC News to the right of.

that. E. >> yeah, look at that. Bolivia legalizes. chewing and ingesting cocoa leaves. Bolivia wins. >> [laughter]. >> They're ahead of us. They win. The real. problem with it is fentinel and the fact. that you have to get it from a [ __ ]. Coke dealer. >> Yeah, >> those are the real problems. >> Having to talk to a Coke dealer is. actually the worst part of the entire. process. >> Pope plans to chew cocoa leaves during. Bolivia visit. Jesus Christ, the Pope's. dead now. They killed him because he. wanted to chew the cocoa leaves. That's. a [laughter] 2015 article.

That's wild, dude. Because it is weird. that I mean, is cocaine worse than. alcohol? Cuz if it's not, why why is. alcohol the one that's legal? >> Says he specifically requested to chew. it. >> Wow. What a freak. >> Yeah. It's. >> Duncan Trussell has a great joke about. Adderall. >> Oh yeah. >> He goes Aderall is like someone did. cocaine and went. I can fix this. [laughter]. >> That's a great joke.

[laughter]. I I think I mean I've never done aderall. either for the same reason that I've. never done coke like [ __ ] it just seems. too good seems like it gets you too. jazzed up. >> I I mean I had like debilitating I still. have debilitating ADHD. I haven't done. aderall in. >> What does that mean though? >> Um. so I get like uh I get anxiety if I if I. look at my mail on my kitchen counter. Right now there's a pile this high with. mail. >> Mhm. >> If I look at it like I feel like a. >> because you're not doing the work.

you're not look going through your mail. >> It's just a crippling depression. It. feels like like if I have to do my. taxes, like I have a business manager. that does all this [ __ ] but when I had. [clears throat] to do it myself, it. would like [ __ ] me. I would like I. would feel like I've had depression. issues back in the day. >> It felt like depression. I feel like I. want to lie down. When I literally when. I look at the mail on my counter, they. call it um ADHD paralysis where there's. things that you don't like to do and the. tedious little tasks um that it it feels. like school work was like really bad for. me. That was really really hard.

>> But on the flip side, if there's. something that you really love, do you. have a lot of attention to it? A lot of. energy. >> I dive in to like I obsess over it. So. like I I love the things that I do. I. love work. Like I really love what I do. for a living. I I do a bunch of things. really, but like I love work. I love. getting on business meetings. I love. taking a phone call. I love, you know, I. love writing jokes. I love going on the. road. Like, so the things that I love to. do, I dive completely into and I just. sort of. >> see that's where it's stupid to me that. that's a disease, right? >> That seems like you're allergic to.

boring [ __ ] [laughter]. >> I don't think that's a disease. I think. modern society has got people convinced. that's a disease. >> I think that there Yes. I think most. people don't want to fold their laundry. I think most people don't want to do. their taxes or go through their mail. most. But for me, it hits me in a way. where like I feel a physical like. recoil. Like I genuinely like. >> You're allergic to boring [ __ ]. >> I'm allergic to boring [ __ ]. >> I don't think it's a bad thing at all. I. think they got you tricked. They they've. got all of us tricked. Yeah. >> Everybody that I know and me included.

that probably has ADHD or I think I can. go to a doctor, they figure out. something wrong with me. They they'd say. there's something wrong with you. You. could have got on pills when you were a. kid and it would have ruined all of it. Yeah, >> it would have [ __ ] up that weird gift. that you have where you can lock in. So, what's the flip side of that weird gift? The other thing doesn't seem important. Other [ __ ] is boring, but you have way. more energy over the thing that's. exciting. It's a great point. >> It's a superpower, dude. >> It's a great point. And I, by the way, I' I've said that specifically that my. ADHD is a superpower in certain regards. the fact that I could get so locked in.

on the things that I really really want. to do, but I've never really considered. the fact that like it's making me avoid. doing the things that just are [ __ ]. tedious, whatever. And by the way, I. figured it out. I still went down the. path. I'm 44 years old. >> I get my [ __ ] done. I still the laundry. gets folded, the taxes get done, the. >> boring. Yeah. >> Yeah. But that's discipline. Discipline. >> That's all I was going to say. The. discipline part is like some people. can't, >> right? or like how does it get done that. you know like. >> I mean I was like like a really bad. student like I just skin of my teeth.

graduated. >> understand but the idea that this gift. that you have is what doesn't get. concentrated on the gift is you have an. extraordinary amount of energy that you. can devote to something you really love. most people wish they had that gift. >> the flip side of it of course the other. things aren't even remotely interesting. cuz you need to be stimulated in order. for give something all of your. attention. >> Some people could just drone on and. drone on and they don't have ADHD. That.

doesn't that's not good. >> Yeah. >> I think ADHD. >> made it made growing up pretty tough. Like cuz you get peg you get you get you. called a bad kid. [laughter]. I didn't get good grades. I'm a millionaire and I [laughter] had. bad grades when I was 12. >> You're right. >> You're not wrong. >> No. Come on, dog. I know I'm right. >> You're right. All right, let's wrap this. [ __ ] up. Uh, I got to get out of here. So, Gas Digital, what else to tell. everybody?

>> Stankfest on sale today. >> Fest. Oh [ __ ] 420. What a good time to. sell. >> Is it 421? Are they on sale today or. tomorrow? >> They're on sale today. They Yes, this. comes out tomorrow. So, yesterday they. went on this podcast yesterday cuz those. budgets, those tickets go quick. >> They go fast. So, the all access pass, if I had to guess, are pretty close to. sold out, but you can still get single. day pass. >> Well, I bet the skankers already know. What do you call your your people? >> Skanks. >> Skanks. The skanks already. [clears throat] know. >> Yeah, we got a big lineup. >> That's amazing, dude. Congratulations on. all this because every comic always. agrees that it is absolutely the best.

festival. >> They [snorts] [ __ ] love it. They love. the vibe. They love, you know, how much. effort and time you guys put into it. >> It's awesome, dude. Congratulations. >> Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Yeah, but it's going to be it's going to. be You should come one day, Joe. >> I will come one day. skankfest.com. >> skankfest.com. And uh yeah, get those. tickets. Shane's going to be there. Mark. Norman, Derek Andre, >> sounds great. >> Everybody. I mean 170 comics. >> Everybody loves it. All right. [music]. Thanks. Thank you. All right. Bye, everybody.

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