Joe Rogan Experience #2463 - Steve-O

Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe. Rogan experience. TRAIN BY DAY, JOE. ROGAN PODCAST BY NIGHT. ALL DAY. HEADPHONES no headphones? You want to do. Yeah, no headphones. You don't We're. going no headphones. it. What's up, dog? How are you? Well, dude, it's been. a roller coaster for me, man. It Since. the last time I saw you? Uh big time. What happened? Well, um let's see here. Um.

the uh. the year of 2022. Last time I saw you, I. think it was 2023. Was it that long ago? I think it was, man. Okay. Yeah. And uh. man, dude, I was on a high the the year. of 2022. Like we had uh our Jackass movie in. theaters, number one. There's big like, you know, my profile was all, you know, like. white-hot. Um. the world just opened up from the. pandemic and everybody had stimulus.

money and they were just revenge. spending. Everyone wanted to go out to. shows and there were no interest rates, money was free. It was just like a. perfect storm for me to have the most. successful year of my life. Like more. than double what my next most successful. year was. And then like. I don't know. I maybe I just got like. uh. super super high on that, you know? Like. and it was just like. I. I was just kind of printing money, you.

know? Like selling merch like crazy and. like everything was just going so well. And um. I don't know if maybe like you become. more successful and like people get. angry at you, >> [laughter]. >> you know? I don't. But uh. there's a like a point after that where. I felt like, man, the internet turned on. me, kind of, you know? Like I saw a lot. of negative comments. People saying that. all like all I do is promote merch. You.

know, like there was there's a bunch of. different stuff and. I um. legitimately agree. That's my thing is. when I see a negative comment about me, if I agree with it, then it really. bothers me, you know, and I got to do. something about it, you know. I think. and and I've heard you say that that uh. you know, that that that. uh taking criticism constructively is. like super helpful. It's very helpful. The problem with the internet is. this [snorts] it's overwhelming. It's.

too many too many voices, too many. different people. That's why I would. never recommend for a person like you to. even read the comments. >> Right. I what I did was uh Do you have a. dick tattooed on your right eyebrow? >> [laughter]. >> Is that what that is? That's exactly. what it is. >> you have to keep that for? I don't have. to keep it for any amount of time, but. >> So it's a bet or anything? I mean, it is. a bet how long I last before I get it. lasered off. And is there a a money. No. >> value to this bet? >> No, it's more of an experiment. [laughter] Oh. But I've been I've been.

doing really well with it and I was It's. not even a good dick. It's. [clears throat] like a weird dick, like. a banana dick, cuz it's. It's it's uh it's pretty awesome. >> [laughter]. >> And it and it was. >> Are you you're bad at taking criticism. >> [laughter]. >> And uh. it. it was done by Post Malone. Oh, well, that makes it even better. Very It makes. it awesome. Yeah. I don't expect to keep. it forever, but I was very shocked when. I got it that my life didn't really.

change a whole lot. >> Yeah, that's you. Right. >> I mean? Like if uh. you know, Marco Rubio got a dick. tattooed [laughter] on his forehead, they'd be like, "Hey, take his. clearance away." Yeah. Um. But in any case, man, like um. I. I just you you you you you couldn't be. more right. There's so many voices and. everything, but I agreed with a bunch of. stuff and um. you know, I spent like. under. 2024. 2025 like like very mindfully.

um addressing the you know, the. criticism with which I agreed and I felt. like I made like really good progress, you know, like sort of uh. repairing my my reputation even though. maybe I didn't even need to. I don't. think you needed to. Maybe not, but uh and and then coming. into 2026, I was like wow, I did this I. I I. texted you. I was like, dude, I've I've. got on this Mr. Beast thing. I won the. whole damn thing.

And. you know, it was the this video he made. and 30 celebrities compete to win a. million dollars for charity. Oh, who you. on with? Uh dude, it was. uh it was a Matt Rife was one of them. Cool. >> Sal Vulcano Oh, nice. Howie Mandel, Diplo Nice. The Bella Twins Oh, so. that's a crazy group of people. >> It was really crazy. >> there's 20 20 people? >> 30 of them. 30. Oh, wow. Yeah, 30 like. [snorts] like not half-ass celebrities. by any measure.

And yeah, I won the whole damn thing. So. what was involved? What did you have to. do? Um there was uh. the I mean it was it was an exercise in. promoting his Beast Games on Prime, which by the way is the most phenomenal. TV show that I've ever watched. >> Yeah, my daughter was just telling me. about it. She was saying it's so good. >> unbelievably. good and and I'm not being paid to say. that. >> man. That dude's very smart. Yeah, I got. to tell He he's like a really. interesting guy cuz he's kind of open.

about what he does. He tells people how. to do it. Right. >> like how to manipulate the algorithm and. how to get people to get excited and. click on your link based on what the. image is and the text says and Yeah. >> about all that. Yeah. I I was able I want him on my. podcast uh. like right right when the thing came. out. >> Uh-huh. And uh he was telling me that. that he was pretty close to recording a. podcast with you on the top of the. pyramid. Yeah.

>> [laughter]. >> I couldn't make it out there. I didn't. have the time. Yeah. But you know, he he. he's amazing. And I thought when that. thing came out, I was like, "Man, this. is just going to like be life-altering.". >> the thing. People got mad at him. They. got mad at him when he was filming in. Egypt because he was filming with Zahi. Hawass. And Zahi is the What is he? The. head of the Ministry of Antiquities? Is. that what it is? Or he was [clears throat] at one point. in time. He was one of, you know, my. most controversial podcast guests. People did not like him. >> Wow. Because he's kind of.

he pushes a narrative in defiance of. all the evidence that has been sort of. uncovered by all these other people. It's like there's this evidence that. shows that. you know, the pyramids are Okay, so. you're not talking about this guy. >> You know Mr. Beast? Cuz Mr. Beast did. something with him and a lot of people. online are mad at him for having this. guy on. Zahi Hawass. >> who pushes the narrative. >> no no nobody knows how they built the.

pyramids. And he's like, "They built it. because it was a national project." And. I was like, "Come on, bro. Like that's a. fun thing to say, but that doesn't tell. me how they got all those rocks there. How Tell me how they got 2,300,000. stones that weigh between 2 and like 80. tons?" And they moved them through the. mountains, some of them 500 mi away. Like tell Well, tell me how they did. that. Tell me how they aligned it to. true south north south east and west. 4,500. plus years ago. And it's more likely. plus than minus.

I mean, nobody knows. So he So that was. really controversial. A lot of people. are mad at Mr. Beast for that. What in. the like the algorithm that I have. People are calling him a shill and. letting this guy say nonsense on your. show. Wow, okay. So, that's the point. It's like don't listen. Right, right, right, right. >> Right, nobody gives a No No No No. No Mr. Beast his fans like we're going. to abandon him. He has all he was on. spitting out [laughter] propaganda. Nobody Nobody cares, man. There's just. too many voices and if you. look at yourself, if you feel like I'm. kind of horing out my merch too much,

just back off of it. Yeah, yeah, that's. what I did. That's what I did. He gets. for everything because he's uber. successful. Right. >> Right, so everything he does like it. could be like he only gave away a. million dollars to charity. >> [laughter]. >> It's It's ridiculous, man. Like you'll never make all those. people happy. They don't want to be. happy. That's a big part of what's going. on. You're You're jumping into a pool of. mentally ill people and trying to stay. clean. >> [laughter]. >> You're like wash Hey guys guys guys,

let's be reasonable. Right, right, right. >> They're suicidal. They know what. a gun tastes like. They've had it in. their mouth recently. This is not a. place where you're going to get like. rational discourse. Right. But again, it's when I agree with stuff that that. that. >> Right, that it bothers you. >> Right. But do that to yourself. Right, right. >> Just look at yourself. Take a moment. Like did Like there was a I don't know. if I was burned out, like if I was. touring, but like um there was a point. going through 2022 in particular 2023.

where like I just I would lose my mind. over people being disruptive in the. audience at my shows. Like I don't even. want to. um. call them hecklers because I think like. heckler has like a connotation of. wittiness to it. I'm talking about just. drunk just run yelling yelling. out and and and disrupting the show. And. I would take the position I'd be like, man, you know, uh the.

this whole audience of people paid their. hard-earned money to come see this show. and this one person yelling out is just. fundamentally disrespecting everybody. who's here and I'm not standing for it. I'm drawing a hard you know and I would. be like I would I would I would snap. like no I would be throwing people out. What happened was. everybody thought I was a dick you know. and like maybe so like maybe I was I was. burned out and it was like. >> You were overreacting right? >> overreacting and and like that's that's.

another piece of criticism that I really. really took to heart and now it's been. over two years. Like well over two years since I even. scolded an audience member or threw them. out. >> That's great. Just got to kind of put. that energy out there at the beginning. we're all here to have a good time. You. know we're we're all here to have a good. time. Let them know. It's like like if. someone's yelling out like come on man. keep it to yourself. Stay stay calm. >> Hold it together. If I get like really.

pushed in an. egregious situation the farthest I'll go. is I'll say hey, you know what guys I. used to get really bent out of shape. over people being disruptive but I don't. do it anymore [clears throat]. and that tends to and and as soon as I. stopped reacting so much like the. problem mellowed out. Well you got to. realize like your entire career you've. kind of been a disruptor. Sure. So it's. kind of natural that disruptive people. would be attracted to come to your show. >> Of course. Of course. >> you're you're saying please be polite at.

this moment [laughter] in time. Right. Yeah like you're you're you're. allowed to see me put some things up my. butt and I demand respect. Is that what you do in your show you put. stuff up your butt? Well it's a. multimedia show. So um. So it like it it So of course you put. something up. >> [laughter]. >> That's multimedia I MEAN THAT'S. SELF-EXPLANATORY JAMIE. WHY WHAT'S WITH. THE questions Jamie? It's gone. [laughter]. Right. Um Bro I still to this day cringe when. Tim Kennedy choked you unconscious and.

then let you drop. I wasn't mad at him. Yeah, that that was. >> mad at him. He didn't have to let you. drop like that. >> I did ask him to drop me, which was. wrong. >> no. Yeah. I would have said no. If you. made me do that, too, first of all, I. would have tried to talk you out of it, but then I would have said, "There's no. way I'm going to let you drop." In. hindsight, it wasn't particularly funny. >> [laughter]. >> Not only was it not funny, it was like. super disturbing. Right. >> I would have put a cushion under you at. the very least. Right. >> Like a nice like a like a one of them. judo pads where you throw people on.

>> being choked out in and of itself is not. Not that bad. >> It's not it's not really dangerous. >> Probably not the best for you. Right. >> Yeah, I don't know what the data is. I. don't think a lot of jiu-jitsu people. have. done double-blind police. placebo-controlled studies on tap or no. tap, what's the best for your brain. Right. >> I can't think it's good that your brain. gets shut off for a few seconds. I can't. think it's good, you know? One of the. gnarliest things I've ever done in my. life, if not the gnarliest,

um. way back in 2003, we had just had the first Jackass movie. come out. While filming for the first. Jackass movie, one of the bits that it. was never used because it was too Too. up? too up. >> For for Jackass? for Jackass. >> [laughter]. >> Right. Do you have a clip of this? >> [clears throat]. >> Um of of what? I'm sure that it exists, Okay. but you'll appreciate this. The. the the legend Gene LeBell. Oh, Judo.

Gene. Judo Gene, the legend. >> legend. >> Yeah. Like they had Gene LeBell, they. lined up the whole cast of Jackass, and. he just went down the line. >> Just choked them all out? Yeah, and like. the swiftness with which he got. >> he's a brutal man. I mean, it was just. like and he's just like Yeah, super nice. guy, but a brutal man. Right. It was it wasn't even brutal, though. It was like gentle. It was just. like I mean, it was just so fast. It was. just and then. was uh. >> known for being particularly painful.

He [clears throat] uh my friend Silvio. Pimenta was one of his students and he. was one of my first jiu-jitsu. instructors and he taught me a bunch of. Gene stuff. I was like, "Oh, what a mean. guy.". Some of the stuff was so mean. It was. like knuckles in your neck and like real. real crazy that Gene would do to. people. It was like [snorts]. particularly painful. >> you go. >> There you go. Out cold. Oh, yeah, that. looks gentle. >> [laughter]. >> Super gentle. No, I'm not even kidding. Like the way he's doing it. I mean, his. technique is so flawless. >> You know, that um Chuck Chuck Liddell.

was really good at it, too. He choked me. out one time. Um So, so Who did he punch Who did he. punch in the arm full blast? Some. Someone like that. One of you guys. Oh, that would have been before Jackass. >> Was it Jason Ellis? I forget who it was, but someone let Chuck full blast right. hand them in the arm. I'm like, "Well, that arm's useless for a couple of. months now.". >> [laughter]. crazy. That's not like your. buddy punching you in the arm versus. Chuck. He's going to rip some stuff.

apart in there. He might blow your. shoulder out. Like that's crazy to let. that guy hit you. Yeah, what a. sweetheart, too. Oh, he's a great guy. Chuck Chuck was the weirdest because. when he was in his prime, like you look. at him, he was so scary cuz he's tall, he was built like a brick. mohawk, tattoo on his head, super kind. Like you talk to him, super. calm and relaxed and Yeah, I spent a. bunch of time with Chuck. >> guy. Great guy. Okay, so Gene LeBell like Chuck lay just.

lays this all down one by one. >> Okay. And like they considered it too. dark. They didn't even like. >> Just cuz he went unconscious? Yeah, yeah. Just they might have been. >> was this? Then 2002. Then we filmed it. in. >> People weren't used to being people. being choked out yet. The UFC didn't. really get big until 2005. Right. Because of Chuck. Really? And well, it. was really because of Stephan Bonnar and. Forrest Griffin. >> Right. Right. Right. Right. >> That one fight on the old It's crazy. One fight on The Ultimate Fighter. changed the course of. of the history of the sport. That was.

the premiere on Spike, yeah. Uh-huh. Because there was a good fight before. that. Diego Sanchez beat Kenny Florian. So. that was before that. That was a really. good fight, too. And then but but that. was like, you know, Diego beat his ass. Whereas the the Stephan Bonnar Forrest. Griffin fight was a crazy like like. completely even fight. >> Yeah. And two dudes who knew each other. really well and they were going. for it. They said that during the time, you know, like maybe a million people. were watching it at first and the peak.

was like six or seven million, which for. them was nuts. So what that meant was. everybody was calling their friend and. go, "Dude, turn on Spike TV right now. This is crazy." And like, "What is. this?" Like no one knew what it was back. then. Like they had heard of Royce. Gracie, but no one knew that it was. going to be on TV and then like boom, that was it. And then they had Chuck as. the champion, which was the perfect. champion for an emerging sport. This guy. was just a seek and destroy psychopath.

with a tattoo like kanji tattoo on his. head and a mohawk just starching. people. Woo! I remember that era, too. >> Wild time. Uh I mean, your 2000 was when. Jackass came out on MTV. Mhm. >> And I mean, at that time you couldn't. watch video on the internet. That was. the dark times. That was when I was. banned from cable and you could only. watch I got DirecTV because it was the. only way you could watch the UFC. Yeah. >> That's why I got DirecTV. Um.

and and and uh. the media just wasn't so fragmented at. that time. There were only so many TV. channels. There was no social media, no. video on the internet. >> Right. So when something hit on basic. cable, it hit big. Yeah. >> Yeah. [clears throat]. >> Yeah. And uh I think the most views most. uh uh concurrent viewers on MTV that we. got was like 4.5 million. So, and and that. For cable, that's a lot. >> That moved the needle in a big way. >> That's unheard of now. Right.

>> Which is really kind of crazy if you. think about it. >> Yeah. That's how much things have gotten. diluted because there's so many show. it's impossible to watch everything. [clears throat] Right. >> Every time I turn on Apple TV, there's. some new interesting show. Yeah. >> There's a million of them on. Amazon Prime that you've never even. heard of that are really good. They're. all over the place. >> Right. Man, you know, um. I had uh the a really great conversation. with Mark McGrath, the guy from Sugar. Ray. Oh, really? >> Yeah, she's like I just fell in love.

with this guy. I had him on my podcast. And um. he made such a valid point about how the. '90s '90s nostalgia is so rad because it. was really the last time when everybody. watched the same shows on TV together. Right. >> like everything like all the albums came. out on the Tuesday like whatever, you. know, like everything every it was a a. communal audience for everything. We. don't have that anymore. There's only. one UFC 326 this Saturday and on.

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Yeah. >> You know, like I remember I was headed. to a gig with this dude. God, I wish I. could remember his last name, but he was. really funny. It was Johnny something. I'll I'll I'll remember it. eventually. But, we were on our way to. this comic from Connecticut. We were on. our way to a gig together and he's like, "Have you heard of The Brand New. Heavies?" And I go, "No, who are they?". He goes, "It's a jazz band and they. linked up with a bunch of rappers and. made this heavy rhyme experience album.". It was incredible. I'm like, I.

would have never found out about this. >> sick. Oh, it's sick, dude. There's. there's one with Gang Starr that's. great. It's getting hectic. It's. great cuz it's like you got this music. that's like this like real live band. music. Sort of like how that Tiny Desk. Show does it now. See, I don't even know the Tiny. [laughter] Desk. Um, but like you got. like Kool G Rap. Oh, dude. Kool G Rap. >> That's it. Johnny Rizzo. How did you do. that? >> That's another. trick. How the did you do that?

>> of the audio. >> to Johnny Rizzo. There's transcripts. >> Is he around still? Uh. He was a funny dude. Yeah. He had like a rubber face. The dude. could make the craziest faces. He was. like it was so funny. Yeah. Back to the the choking out thing. I. think the reason why it was a. dark and disturbing Cuz you guys were. twitching when you. >> Yeah, it's the twitching. When when you. when you get choked out you're twitching. and that. >> [clears throat]. >> that's a little bit. >> That's just waking up. >> It's a little bit upsetting. But the the.

the That's hilarious. All the you. guys did that they left in. Well, yeah. And and another big problem is that with. the choking out it's particularly. imitable. That's something that we got. to. >> Oh. Oh, okay. >> If. if it's something that little kids could. like pretty easily imitate then that's. more problematic for us. But in that. whole the you know, experience. Ryan Dunn. just came away feeling.

qualified to start choking people out. himself. >> Oh, no. I don't know that Ryan Dunn had. any kind of. combat sports background. I kind of. doubt it. I think it was literally just. from this one experience with Gene. LeBell. Kind of watching it happen, having the experience himself. He just. started choking people out. And and back. then I I had a. wildly different style of tour, but I. was on tour nonetheless. And Ryan Dunn. would be with me on tour. He would.

say to the audience, "Who wants to get. on stage and get choked out?" And even. back then I was like. out of my mind on drugs. And and I was. like, "Please don't be doing this.". >> [laughter]. >> It really really bothered. It made me so uncomfortable. I would. leave the stage when Ryan Dunn was. choking out audience members. >> And they so crazy that they signed up. for that. Right. And people would be. jumping up and down like, "Please, please, please.". >> them down? He didn't drop them? >> He did let them down, yeah. Um, but uh, but it bothered me so much.

until the one day when I'd been on. cocaine for like 3 days in a row and I. was feeling a little bit self-conscious. about how little like uh, very intense. footage that I had been generating and I. was like, "You know what? Today's my. day. Ryan Dunn choke me out." And so he. did it once and then. he did it again. He We spent the whole day he. six times in a row.

>> [laughter]. >> Um And each time it became more like, [snorts] uh, violent throwing me down. So that's number two. >> [laughter]. >> It seems like he's, uh, having fun with. your body after it's out. Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> He sort of just ragged on you. Yeah. Dude. Six of them in one day. That's too. much. Yeah, oh my god, the last one. >> rarely happens in training. Right. >> Usually you tap out. Yeah, that after.

this one I think there's two more and. the the last one is just so upsetting. This one? Yeah, I guess it's the one. where, uh, where he threw me on my head. >> Oh, dude. >> Yeah, like right I don't want to see No, no, no, no, no, no, no. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, I landed right on my face, dude. man. Why did he do that? I because. You wanted it to be more exciting. >> I think that that like And the cocaine. Yeah, there was cocaine falling out of. my nose in the shot.

Because I put it there. JESUS [laughter]. CHRIST. JEEZ, BOY. >> so I think that's probably the gnarliest. thing. Yeah. But, uh, but in any. [clears throat] case, so Did you get. hurt from that at all? Uh, I think I had. a broken tooth. >> Oh, from falling on your face. Did you. get hurt at all from the repeated. chokings? I don't think so. No. It's pretty. amazing given what I've put myself. through. Oh, incredible. >> professionally and personally that like. I've I've good recall and I'm you know.

pretty How many times Johnny told me. he's been knocked out unconscious 16. times. How many times do you think. >> I'm not at that level. I got knocked out. in the WWE ring. Wait. On Monday Night. Raw. It was this was this was a a heavy one. man. Every one. >> with? It was an elbow that really put me. out. Who hit you? Umaga. This is the the. cause his fighter name in the WWE was.

the Samoan Bulldozer. Bro, Samoans got. some heavy bones. Yeah, so. >> want to get hit by a Samoan. Yeah, I. mean dude I bet you can bring that one. up and really is the Monday Night Raw. Stevo and Chris Pontius. We were. promoting the second Jackass movie. Oh. my goodness. >> to get in the ring. We're we're getting. in the ring. We're we're doing a whole. match and it's it's fascinating the way. that they kind of block out what the. matches are. It's it's kind of like a. jam band. >> Right.

>> like a jam band that you've got like the. kind of tent pole moments and then you. just kind of fill it in. But it's like. there's going to this is going to. happen. This is going to happen. This is. going to happen and what was to be the. last move it's called a splash where. this 350 lb Samoan Bulldozer is going to. jump off the top rope and with with me. laying on the ground and like body slam, you know, off the top rope. But what I didn't understand, what I. didn't know is that the match for it to.

be over that means the person who lost. like stops moving. You know, >> the only way? Well, you're not supposed. to move around after that. >> around. >> it so like. >> put you to sleep. >> Yeah, like he jumped off the top rope. and it was such a devastating blow that. I couldn't help but react, you know, I. was like oh, you know, like whoa!" Like. and I'm laughing and rolling around like. I can't even believe it. And it And he's looking at me like, "Oh, now I'm disrespecting him because I'm.

moving around.". So. So he hits me again. And And I'm confused because I. understood that what just happened was. supposed to be the final move. But now. he just hit me again and I'm like, "Wait, what are you doing?" You know, like Dude, but he's like, "If I'm going. to move around, he's going to keep. hitting me." Somebody told you that? Right. And so then he hits me again. And And. This is gnarly. Yeah, we we got pretty. radical. on the.

Yeah, there's a Okay, this is This is. Dude, they he drops his elbow. They. They didn't even show the end of the. match. They went to commercial because. it was too dark for the WWE to show. See right there. Now it's supposed to be. over, but. but I'm moving around. And so then he gets. >> Yes, and now he's kicking me and I'm. like, "Wait, but Dude, dude, I don't I.

think that elbow. was what put me out." And they. they cut to the commercial. I don't. remember leaving the ring. Wow. Yeah, that elbow looked pretty. hard, dude. >> Yeah, they Right there. They. >> also all the other banging of your. brain. I mean, this is a lot of banging. of your brain. The body slams are. banging of your brain. Yeah. Yeah, you. definitely got a concussion from that. one, son. >> [cough]. >> Yeah, [clears throat]. um Those dudes get concussions all the. time. You don't think about it cuz you.

think, "Oh, it's wrestling. It's pro. wrestling." But just the physical. contact is unavoidable. Those guys When. Hulk Hogan came in here, man, it was one. of the saddest things. I'd met him a. long time ago, um in Beverly Hills. I. ran into him in front of a cigar bar. I. was like, "Holy he was gigantic.". >> [laughter]. >> And then I met him the second time when. he did Well, I met him another time when. he did he and I did a Spike TV thing. It. was awesome. Uh and then he came in to do the podcast. and he had so many back surgeries that.

he was like 6 in shorter. Oh, wow. It. was crazy. It's because they have to. fuse all of his discs. And he had a cane. everywhere, man. He was up. And. he said it was from that thing that he. would do where he would drop down on his. ass with an elbow. So, every time he did. that, he his back up. I mean, think about how big he was in his prime. 300-plus pounds, right? So, every time. you're dropping down, your body's taking. the shock on your ass bone of 300-plus. pounds flying through the air and. bouncing off the ground. So, all of his.

discs got herniated. He had to get them. all fused. It was horrible, man. >> Yeah. Those guys get busted up. Yeah. The Rock is like a weird He's an. outlier cuz I don't know what kind of. physical issues he has, but he doesn't. seem to have any. Like, I worked out. with him, he's mobile, he could do. stuff. He looks amazing. So, like, I. don't know how he got through that. insane long career and not got busted. up. Yeah. I feel like a star called Steve Austin.

is in reasonably good shape, too. I don't know. I don't know about that. one. But, I know a lot of those guys, man, they they leave that career and, you know, they have fake hips, fake. backs fused. Everybody has something. wrong. Yeah. I've been pretty lucky. Like, for the most part, I you know, I've. I've had some hardware in my ankle. I've. had hardware in my collarbone. I had. meniscus surgery on my knee. That's it for your knees? Just one? Just.

one. And and it was an elective one, too. Like, it was a partially torn. meniscus. Why did you decide to have it. get it snipped? >> Because um. I was told that um. that it would be. better. I would I don't know. like in the long. run I would my knee would be better for. us. Mhm. Yeah, I had it done on my left. knee. And it was pretty good until a skiing. accident a few years ago and it's been. like irritating the out of me since. then and then I've had a few other. little injuries with it. But um the thing about it is like that.

cushion once it's gone it's gone. Like. it doesn't come back and that cushion's. kind of important. Like my knee always. felt a little loose. Like that cushion. really is banging around in there. >> Yeah. They do replace meniscus. They use. cadaver meniscus. But it's not 100% it. doesn't always work. I don't know I. think they have to cut the entirety of. your meniscus out and put up cadaver one. in there and then sew it in place. >> That recovery from that meniscus surgery. was rough. Really? Yeah, like that like.

I thought that was one of the easiest. ones. For me man and my my knee really. hurt for quite a while. Um were you. doing anything for it? How long ago was this? 2006 2006 is that. what you said? Uh well not the How long. was it? The knee surgery? The meniscus. was recent that was 2023. >> Oh, okay. Well, um get on some peptides. That's that'll probably help it. I I I. was I was doing peptides. >> Yeah. Donald Cerrone Oh, there you go. He got me dialed in with the folks at. transcend.

>> Right, he works with those guys. >> Right and. >> That's how he got super jacked after he. retired. Right, I just travel so much. Right. >> that like all of these things that need. to be refrigerated and you're traveling. with the ice pack and then it was like. >> I get it. >> It's just like kind of too much and I. just You know what a simple solution. though is? What's that? >> Just get yourself like one of them. little Yeti thermoses. Put some ice in there and put your. peptides in there throw in your bag. Simple. That's it. Okay. It keeps it cold seals up.

I was doing testosterone too. You. stopped? I did. >> Why stop? >> I just. like kept forgetting I was like ah. >> [laughter]. >> And I didn't really. I don't want to say I didn't notice. anything because there are different. things going on in my life that I could. have attributed. But like having stopped taking it I. don't [clears throat]. notice really any difference. >> Did you get your blood work done before. you took it? >> Well I did I got my blood work done by.

the folks at transcend. >> Right. And you know they prescribed it. to me. >> What did they say your levels were? I. think my testosterone was like 300. >> That's pretty low. Yeah. It's on the. lower. end. >> though. There's stuff called well you. know I mean you're taking peptides but. there's other stuff you can take that. could. ramp up your natural testosterone. >> Right. I've been doing more like. strength training too and I know that. that Yeah that's a lot. Yeah. There's a. bunch of different things like dead. lifts and squats they ramp up your. testosterone especially zercher squats.

I could I could certainly get back into. all that because I you know I love the. idea of like being super healthy. longevity. >> Yeah it's good for you. Feel better feel. better think better. Yeah and and my. baseline's pretty good too like I've got. my whoop band and uh. Seeing you with a whoop is kind of. hilarious. [laughter]. I'm a little concerned about my health. I love it. Contrary to all my actions. for the past 40 plus years. >> Right. I love it so much and uh It's. great right? You get so much data find.

out if you're sleeping well. Well what's. your HRV like? I don't know man. I don't. have them worn in a while. >> Right. Because uh. >> good. Like today I'm 113 HRV. Uh I don't. know if that's good. Is that good? >> It's super good. >> Oh yeah congratulations. >> Yeah and like my my average is like 90 I. don't know. That's great man. So you're. working out and feeling good. Yeah. Taking care of myself. >> those blows to the head son. Yeah for. sure. Especially as you get older. they're it seems like. a lot of people when they get older. they're really hard to recover from.

Right. The the last Jackass movie we did, the. the fourth one, Jackass Forever, they. had this huge treadmill. It's a treadmill for horses. And they got us they they got it just. humming. And uh all of us they had a. bunch of us the the cast dressed up in. marching band like with marching band. and like we're marching playing our. instruments and one by one we jump on. this treadmill. Right. And I was. hilarious. But dude, I got knocked out.

so cold. >> [laughter]. >> I wonder if you could bring that up, Jamie. Like I like I was. out out for like a. you know, probably maybe the longest. I've ever been. >> you get knocked out? What happened? I. hit my head. You just fell? [laughter]. Yeah, like as I had got spit off the end. of this treadmill. >> Oh, Jesus Christ. You just kind of. jumped on it? So it looks like Knoxville went first. >> Oh my god, dude.

So I'm like everyone is awake and I am. like super not awake at all. >> Oh, Knoxville's bleeding from the head. Yeah. You guys are so ridiculous. What a silly way to make a living. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, don't do that anymore. Yeah, that. Oh boy. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, that was that that might have been. my worst concussion. But but there's but. there's there's been like more than that. even, you know, not 16 but The one that. hurt me the most was Johnny Knoxville.

when he was in that store and Butterbean. beat him up. >> Yeah, oh my god. That was crazy. That one bothered me. Cuz if you know. how hard Butterbean hits, that's just a. silly thing to sign up for. Let that guy. beat the out of you. And then even. after he's down, Butterbean had him get. back up and put him away. Like don't let him do that. >> Right. Especially Butterbean, man. That. guy. There's a highlight reel of inputting. giant men to sleep.

>> [laughter]. >> You know, you do not want that guy punch. you on the chin. Talk about sweethearts, too, man. What a butter bean. Yeah, up. until that moment. Right. >> There's a thing with those guys, though. They're so accustomed to hurting people. Yeah. >> It's like, you you want to sign up for. this? You sure? I'm sure. Okay. Right. And they're [clears throat] just going. to do to you what they've done to a. bunch of other people that decided to. box them. Yeah. Man, looking at that trip, that really. was gnarly. Gnarly. [laughter]. Not good. I mean, you were flying.

through the air and landed on your. head. Not good, dude. Not good. >> Yeah, that uh That's probably why you. forget to TAKE YOUR PEPTIDES. >> [laughter]. >> THAT'S THEY I read a story about Jim. McMahon, the football player, and uh. that's his name, right? The guy from the. Chicago Bears? >> Yeah, Jim McMahon was the quarterback, right? >> Yeah, the quarterback. And um it was I. think it was a Sports Illustrated. article, and they were they were talking. about how like he can't remember. anything. He'll be standing in the. middle of his living room not knowing.

why he's there, where he was going. Do-. doesn't know where his keys are. Doesn't. know where his phone just like can't. It's just like. It's like it just blacks out, comes. back. Blacks out, comes back. You you'd. imagine that that would be more for like. linemen because every single play that. guy In those days, though, the. quarterbacks got taken out. Back in. those days, that's the '80s. You got to. think how much harder the game was, but. I'm not obviously not a football. aficionado or expert by any means, but.

from what I've been told, the rules are. much more favorable today to protect the. quarterback. >> Right. Okay. And back then, those dudes. got hit. And it's not just that, man. It's also. all the different years you played. Those all count. Like, just because. you're only getting knocked out a couple. of times as a professional in the NFL, what about all the times you got knocked. out in high school? What about all the. times you got knocked out in college? Those guys, man, I have a massive amount. of respect for football players. I mean, I've watched a lot of high school games.

in Texas, and I watched a lot of college. games at UT. It is a brutal. sport. I mean, it's no wonder that's the. American pastime. Could it is a. psychotic sport. I I love it. It's fun to watch, man. I've become a. fan. Um I what what really I think was. the smartest. They got into the the. routine with their you the NFL YouTube. channel. At the conclusion of every.

game, they upload a video to YouTube, which is a condensed version of the game. that runs anywhere from like 10 to you. know, like 10 to 15 minutes. So, like. you you can watch super digestible, more. than highlights, [clears throat] like. more than SportsCenter. But like, you. know, you're only seeing the awesome. stuff. >> Man, I was involved. Nick Sis is one of. the dirtiest plays in NFL history. >> Oh. He's got slammed after the play. After the play, slammed on his head. >> Yeah. That's crazy.

>> this end of the season. This play. I don't know which game of the year it. was, but. >> Oh my god. >> not cool, man. Yeah. Look at him. Oh my. god, that's crazy that that dude did. that. And what did he get? Like a one. game penalty or something? >> then they were like Yeah, back then it. was probably pretty mellow. Back then. they probably gave him extra steroids. Good job. >> But I hope this reaches the NFL when I. say this, is that as much as. by the by the end of the season, where. whatever it was, 2023 or 2024, like I. was so invested cuz I was watching these.

digestible like YouTube videos, that by. the time the playoffs rolled around, I. was subscribed to every single different. platform, because now like the stakes. are so high, I got to watch the whole. game. Like they really converted me. Oh, that's great. >> Yeah, it was the smartest thing they. did. >> That's wise. I mean, cuz you think about. there's a lot of downtime in football in. between plays, a lot of this, a lot of. that. People talk. The best thing, but I. but I have a. really really important thing that I. want the NFL to know is that they were. the thumbnails a lot of the times gave.

away the outcome of the game. Oh. So, and and this was a problem that that the. UFC had for a while. Like um you know, I. would be doing my shows, you know, especially if I'm in a comedy club, you. know, I've got the second show on. Saturday night. So, I've missed the. whole pay-per-view event. Now, I get. back to my hotel room and I'm going to. watch everything, the whole thing. But. then when I go into the video-on-demand. and the thumbnail shows like the. the the winner of the main event like.

celebrating Right. >> you know, like it's like oh, so I. reached out to Dana. I'm like, Dana, the. thumbnails are giving away. And he's. like, Took care of it, man. Just got off. the phone with the head of Disney, the. president of. That's nice to have that kind of pull. Right. >> And. uh but I wish I could do that for the. NFL. And they don't always Maybe they. won't. Maybe they will now. Yeah, they. don't always give away the game, but for. the love of God, please make the. thumbnail neutral so that because of the. reason why we're clicking on this video. is because we want we we don't want to. know what happened. We want to watch it.

and enjoy it. >> Right. And so, how long are these. condensed games? Anywhere from like 8 to. 16 minutes. >> Wow. That's smart. >> And it's so exciting because if you see. um uh like a punt or a kickoff, you. know, something awesome's going to. happen because they'll never include a. punt or a kickoff unless it gets run all. the way down for a touchdown or if. there's a turnover or something like. >> Right. >> So, it's like ooh, there's you know, you. like you get excited when you watch. these videos if there's a punt. Right.

That makes sense. Yeah. >> UFC does a good job with uh they they do. these videos that shows like all the. knockouts from a particular event. >> Yeah. I've I've been. >> who just wants to see knockouts. >> Yeah, I've been saying that, and um you. know, I I've been in situations already. since the Paramount deal where I got to. go back and watch the whole card. And. and Paramount like. it's it's pretty awesome, man. Like on. ESPN. >> very intuitive. I got to say, it's a. little clunky when you're searching for.

the show cuz you go to like live TV to. watch it, and then if it's not on live. TV anymore, like if you go out, you. pause it, and you come back and try to. and you click on it, it doesn't work, and then you got to find it, and then. you got to go to home, and then you got. to go down to the UFC, and then I search. out each individual, and then it brings. you up a grid of all the stuff that's on. TV right now, and then if you click on. that, it's not playing anymore. So, it. tells you it's not on, you got to go. back again to home. It's like, where the. is it? Like, just have a little UFC.

thing where I could click at the home. page, and it shows all the matches, what's live, what's not. Just a little. clunky. I think ESPN Plus kind of had it. down. And I'm. I'm just starting to get. >> with ESPN Plus was, though? What? >> Is that you know, you scroll through to get to the main. card, they would have each fight. individually up there, and you got to. like blur your eyes because on the. thumbnail. >> Right. it says the duration of the. Right. You got a little time stamp, and.

it's like, oh damn it, I'm going to run. like I just saw that the. >> You got to not look at that. Yeah, don't. look at that. >> your eyes, look through the cracks. >> is when you play it, it'll show you how. short the amount of time is, you. [clears throat] know, how quickly the. time is going. Like, oh great. >> Right. Well, you can't like you can't. ever skip anything because then the time. bar will come up. >> Do you watch anything else other than. UFC? Uh. sports-wise or. >> No, for fighting-wise. Oh.

Man, I. No? [laughter]. No. I've been trying to get Dana White to do. a striking league. I'm trying cuz like, you know, people still boo and complain. when things go to the ground. And if the. UFC has time to do like slap fight, which I'm not really into, but if they. have time to do that, like do a stand-up. only league cuz there's other. organizations that are doing that. You. know what? Like. >> [snorts]. >> the uh.

the Mike Tyson Jake Paul thing, I. understand that they had. >> [clears throat]. >> a hundred million viewers. Is that real? I think I think they did. And then the. Jake Paul Anthony Joshua had like maybe. 30 million. You know, so it was nowhere. near. But God, I thought that. I thought that. >> Where'd you get those numbers? Just what whatever I just saw it on the. Cuz I don't know if Netflix gives those. numbers out. Or maybe they did. Did they. say it?

Uh. 108 million. Paul Tyson had 108. [clears throat]. million. And then Ja Anthony Joshua, I. think it was like 30. Interesting. 108. million is crazy. That's a lot of. people. It's a lot of people, but what a blown opportunity when you. think like, okay, now Netflix had they. knew they were going to have that many. viewers. Or not that many, they knew. they were going to have a lot. Right. >> They had the opportunity to take the the. boxing model and fix it. And you know,

and I don't know like. >> That Netflix did? Yeah, I mean. >> Netflix has only had a small handful of. events though. Understood. But if you. look at the UFC broadcast, just how like. there's just not downtime. You know, it's like people care about the the. undercard. I mean you know what I mean? Like I'm there. Yeah. >> [clears throat]. >> I'm there at like for the first fight. past prelim. >> Uh some of the undercards are the best. fights. For sure. [clears throat] Yeah, especially the Contender Series is so. good. Particularly, yeah, right, exactly. Especially when you see some.

some these guys coming out of the. Contender Series that are so high-level. already. Right. There's guys that are. getting matched up in the undercard that. no one's ever heard of. They're two. undefeated fighters that could be world. champions. For sure. There There's guys. that are that good now. Right. And. that's what's so great about about the. UFC is that the whole card's good. The. production's insane. There's no. downtime. It's just like you can sit. there for. 6 hours, you know, like and be. be thoroughly happy that you're watching. the whole time. But with boxing, there's so much time in between the.

bouts. >> Yes. Like. >> Yeah, they don't do as nearly as good a. job. UFC, without doubt, is the best. promotion in all of combat sports. In. terms of entertainment, production. value, the people in the truck, the the. experts. >> Right. Like they're the best. That's. That's what I'm saying about Netflix is. that. they they they they. They could have fixed it. >> They could have fixed it. >> is trying to do that now. You know, Zuffa is trying to do that. They're. basically using the promotion machine.

behind the UFC to start promoting. boxing. And they're just getting rolling. right now. But they signed some really. big guys. They signed Conor Benn. They. signed Jai Opetaia, who's a. beast. They signed some legit boxers. So, should be interesting. Yeah. Boxing. is uh. it is a fascinating sport. >> mess. I mean, as far as the broadcast. goes. Well, um I think there's a few um. companies that know how to do it right. And HBO was the best. And when HBO went.

off the air with boxing, uh it was a. real bummer. Because HBO boxing had been. around for decades. They were the peak. That was like the best production team. It was Jim Lampley, Larry Hazard or. Larry Merchant, rather. Um Roy Jones Jr. sometimes, George Foreman sometimes, and. different fighters would sit in. sometimes. And it [clears throat] was. the Jim Lampley is the best. It. was the best. It was like the smoothest. production. They were the best with the. cameras and the production quality and. they get you hyped up about the fight.

with the little pre-made videos. They didn't drag it out. That that they. knew how to do it. HBO did it right. They did it right. But I guess it was. like either it was not profitable or. something. They just decided to When. they canned HBO boxing, I couldn't. believe it. I was like, "After all these. years? It's such a crazy thing to do. They were the best.". If [clears throat] you had an HBO boxing. card and it was a big fight, I was. pumped. It was like the the quality of.

the product was so high-level and they. only put on really great fights. Like if. it got to HBO, that was going to be a. great fight. >> Right. Well, comedy specials were the. same way, right? >> Sure. Yeah. Um now, you know, now it's weird. cuz it's like the landscape is so filled. with different platforms and some guys. take money over visibility. Like there's. young guys that have gotten offers for. places and I was like, "Listen, man. I. think you should put it on YouTube. You're not going to make any money, but. you got to think about that money.

investing in yourself cuz I think you're. really good and I think that this. material, if you put it on YouTube, it's. going to go viral. It'll spread around. and way more people will know about. you.". >> I I sorely regret my approach cuz cuz my. my comedy specials are multimedia and. like I got stuff in there. I mean, the whole point of of my comedy. with the multimedia is to have stuff. that you can't even show on Jackass, you. know? Like just like super extra naughty.

Jackass movie collides with the stand-up. show. Right. And uh and I love that. I. have so much fun with that. And um when. I put out my last one, um I I did uh this thing that Andrew. Schulz did, the Moment, you know, like. uh to paywall. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> this is company, Moment. And I and and. that was me trying to make money off the. special. I mean, I spent so much making. it, you know, but whatever. I wish that. I would have had no paywall whatsoever.

Just You know, I can't put it on. YouTube, but put it on my website. So. that I could get the eyeballs because I. think in the long run that would benefit. way more. Why can't you put on YouTube? Because the content? Because the like. nudity, violence, like. like literally. That's going to be hard to distribute. anywhere. Well, I. >> Even on a website, even on your website. That's just hard That's just hard to get. out. Now, I have my multimedia specials. on my website with no paywall, totally. free, like no ads. Just go to steveo.com.

and check it out. >> [snorts]. >> did it very smart. Like if you want to. see it now, pay, and then I'm going to. put it on YouTube in X amount of months. >> of people got mad about that. People get. mad about [laughter] everything. >> Understood. >> You got to always remember that, man. People get mad about everything. Right. You can't concentrate on that. I think. that maybe they're a little bit more of. a of a window. Cuz for the people who. are like, man, I just spent, you know, >> them what the window is. Right. Just if you you want to do it that way, just tell them. I'm going to put it on.

YouTube in 3 months. Right. Understood. >> But it's it it all is like how. successful are you, right? So if you're. a successful comedian you do that, then. your fans like, hey, why do you need. more money out of me? Right. >> you just release it? But if you're a. successful comedian that's been kind of. banished like Louis C.K. was for a. while, and then Louis C.K.'s done a. brilliant job of putting everything on. his website. Like Harold and Pete, his. animated show, Lucky Louie, all the. different [clears throat] Louie the. episodes. So what he did was really.

create his own thing that is like a. one-stop shop of all things Louis C.K. and it's and it's really good. And his. mailing [clears throat] list. >> Yeah. >> I'm on his mailing list. >> Me, too. And and whenever I see. an email from Louis C.K. I absolutely. click on it because he does he does it. so masterfully. >> Yeah, it's interesting and funny and. it's entertaining. It's an entertaining. little thing that you get and then he. lets you know what he's doing. And he's. never pressuring you into like.

he's got the perfect balance I think of. like capitalism and still being an. artist, you know. It's the way to do it. But, you know, everybody's at their own little path and. the problem [clears throat] with someone. like Andrew is he's already like really. successful. So, it's like asking for. money for a special at this point people. are like, "Come on, man. Just put it on YouTube, you. know?". >> My my next one I'm. absolutely determined to have no. paywall. >> Stanhope always said it best. He said, "Basically, your special is just an ad.

to get people to come see you.". >> said that. >> Yeah, that's the way that's that's. really what it is. Right. And, you know, it's also like you got to. retire material. You know, just let it. go. It's hard. Let it sail out to sea. and light it on fire. It's hard for me. >> [laughter]. >> Of course it is. Like uh Of course it. is. It's hard for everybody. Yeah. >> It's hard for everybody, but it's. probably even harder for you because a. lot of your stuff is physical. So, you. have to like come up with new things. that you could do to yourself. Staple. your lip shut and Yeah, well. [clears throat] tie your dick to your. I I'm so I'm so.

>> [laughter]. >> I'm so happy with with what I've got. now. That's good. Yeah. All right. I'm. thrilled with it. Okay, so So. I was I. was telling you like I spent this uh. couple a couple years like really feel. like in the darkness. In the kind of in. the darkness, yeah. And and um being. being very being very mindful to adjust. my approach in a way that I felt really. good about. There was a. >> Okay. um. There beginning of 2025.

and I got like really heavy on like, you. know, spirituality and faith. I like I'm. that way anyway. Like I really I really. I really care about that. Um be January. of 2025 I get on uh. I I I get this opportunity to have Mark. Wahlberg on my podcast, right? Like uh. And I'm on there and he he's very like. big into his faith. Very Catholic, yeah. >> Yeah, very very big into his. Christianity. And uh And I and I I was. in the thick of it, too, at that point.

I was like, man, you know, like I like. I've been criticism for for being a. too much of a shill and this and that. and like. >> bothered you that much? >> It kind of did, yeah, because I think. because I was uh Well, because it was. accurate. >> It was accurate. It absolutely fit. For. example, last time I was here, I'm like, Joe, my my butt wipes for my butt hole. And you're like, that's bad for the. plumbing. It is bad for the plumbing. Yeah. Right. And. >> You can't flush those things. Dude, I. like. What what I wish I said in that moment. when when when you'd said that how it's.

bad for plumbing, I'd seen on a package. of Dude Wipes, it said only flush one at. a time and you'll be okay. Uh-uh. I. don't even know if that's true. Now. they've got I I stopped selling those. things. >> anything other than toilet paper, period. You talk to any plumber. Okay. >> They'll all tell you. Don't flush. anything other than toilet paper. >> But dude, like the the the internet had. a field day when when you shut down my. my butt wipes plug on on here. See, I.

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used to have a sponsor. It's not our. sponsor anymore, but I want to tell. people to get it anyway. It's a thing. called Tushy. You put it on your Yeah. Oh my god, my dude, every single time I. promote Tushy on my podcast, I say it is. my favorite podcast sponsor that I've. ever had and an excellent I know that. that's not a wise thing to say like if. you're. if you think of all the other sponsors, but I don't care. I don't care. Well, it's not even our sponsor anymore, but. but I tell everybody. It's not expensive. and it's legit and it cleans your butt.

hole and then you just need a little. wipe to pat it down. And it feels. >> you just dry it off. Also, you feel. better. Like you don't feel like you. smeared all over your butt hole. Like I don't know if you have a hairy. but I do. I'm hairy everywhere. It's chaos down there. If I don't trim. it. So, it's like you're getting you're. wiping on the ass hairs and like. >> And and that's you know, that's like as. soon as I started using the Tushy, then. I'm like, oh my god, now if I ever find. myself having to take a and there's.

not. a bidet. Right. >> Now it's a crisis for me. >> I know. Now you're like, "Ew." Now I've. got a problem and that's why having uh. the wet wipes, the the butt wipes Yeah. like became so important because if I. don't have the bidet, like having to. wipe. >> but if you had smeared all over. your fingernails and your hand, would. you be happy you just using a butt wipe. and then having a sandwich? No, you. would not. You would want to wash your. hands, right? Well, yeah. Butt. wipes are okay.

It's okay. It's It's better than not. having them, but you have to throw them. in the garbage. So then you have a. shit-smeared wet wipe in the. garbage, which is kind of nasty. You're. walking in there and you can smell the. and no one's cleaned it yet and so. then you have to have a plastic bag. liner on your garbage can [laughter]. cuz otherwise you get. >> Yeah. The those Tushy things, I have one We. have them here at all the Not It's not a. Tushy, but it's another company on all. our toilets. We have it at the. mothership. Oh my god, it's It's the. best. You have to have those things.

It's It changes your life. >> And dude, that and and when you get the. the Tushy Ace, which has the heated seat. >> Oh, yeah. >> the warm water. >> Warm water's the key. >> and then it blow-dries your butt hole. >> [laughter]. >> Nice. Yeah. It's ready for presentation. Okay, so I sit down with Mark Wahlberg. and I you know and I'm talk talking. about this and and uh. I say, you know, how like you know, leaning into to faith like really just. like it it it. it's so important, you know, like it.

like it's so important to me and then I. had this meaningful conversation Right. >> with with Mark Wahlberg about that. And. then. with the the day the episode comes out. It didn't even occur to me until the day. the episode came out. I was hiking with. my dog through a state park in. Tennessee and it strikes me, oh my god I. had the audacity. as I knew that the episode went out that. day, I had the audacity to cut from this. thoughtful conversation about faith with.

Mark Wahlberg. to an ad for gambling. I WAS LIKE, "OH MY GOD." I WAS LIKE, "I. don't have to be in the comment section. to know to see people saying what a. hypocrite." Like, "Oh my god.". >> But then how does gambling make you a. hypocrite? >> I just. I don't think that makes you a hypocrite. at all. Right. >> I don't Listen, the gambling thing. online, which probably we addressed. this, is a very hot topic and a lot of. people criticize people for promoting. gambling sites online.

The problem is not gambling. The problem. is people who are addicted to gambling. So, the problem is self-control. All. right? And I'm not saying I'm a person. who's immune to being addicted to. gambling. I am sure that given other. circumstances in my life, given. I I could have easily gotten addicted to. gambling. But I'm not. And I don't mind gambling. on stuff. I think sometimes it's. probably fun. The problem is people. You saw Uncut Gems, right? Oh my god,

best movie ever. >> That is gambling. That is the problem. with gambling. That movie was so good. amazing movie. Adam Sandler. killed it in that movie. It's such a. good movie. >> Never felt so good about. >> I'm going like, "Oh my don't do. that. >> [laughter]. >> What the are you doing, man? Don't. do that." Right. >> Oh Jesus, Adam. I You know what though? Like I I [clears throat] I made a. decision on that day hiking with my dog. I said, "I'm I'm not going to promote. anything unless it's good for people.". Wow, good for you.

>> I said I said if like I I I don't want. to do harm, man. I don't like that. >> I don't think it does harm. I think it. does harm if you let it do harm, but I. think food does harm if you let it do. harm. I think alcohol does harm if you. let it do harm. I think marijuana, drugs, all kinds of things do harm if. you let them do harm. Right, but it's. just it's in your face every every you. know, it's and I don't want to. participate in that. I get that. And and. I I just haven't done it since then. I. feel good about that. >> That's good. So, all these different. things that I've done. to to be mindful, to be to feel more.

good about like how I approach my life. and my career. That's good. >> and then coming into this year, 2026, I. was like, "Oh man, like now with the Mr. Beast coming out, I'm like, oh this is. going to change my life. We got a new. Jackass movie coming out. Like, I feel. really good about how I've restored my. my integrity. Like, I feel good about. myself for myself." And then, Joe. Oh my [laughter] god. Then I have Harland Williams on my. podcast, okay? This guy is the most.

genius. Like, the Like, it's just so. Like, you can't even understand the guy. Like, >> one of the weirdest funny guys of all. time. This this snake is on this desk. because he kept it in his pants the. entire episode telling us that he had a. tapeworm. And then he pulled it out at. the end of the episode. And I've left it. on the desk ever since. And when Trump. was in here, I left it on the desk and. he got so excited. He goes, "Hey buddy, thanks for keeping I What did he call. it?" Di- Dem- I Thanks for keeping.

Demetri on the desk while Trump was in. there. >> [laughter]. >> Like, he's just such an oddball. >> He's so magnificent. >> Such a great guy, too. >> Yeah. And and I record my podcast in an. RV, right? I got like three different. RVs that I I use for it. And and one I. keep in Los Angeles. So, we get to. Harland Williams' house. For some. reason, I'm driving and I'm the. worst driver ever. And he's got this. small driveway and I'm trying to. maneuver it around. And I get out of the. van and I and I'm like, "I don't know how I I don't know how I.

can be such a bad driver." And. just like that, Har- Harland Williams. says to me, he goes, "It's AIDS, Stevo. You have AIDS.". >> [laughter]. >> Just like the most absurd thing. And so, like going into [snorts] this. podcast, I'm like, "All right. Like, now. we're We're. the realm of the absurd, you know, like. let's play with Har- Harland Williams. Okay. At some point in the episode. the the most. dumb idea that ever popped in my head.

But I'm you know, you want to be like a. step ahead and like figure out how like. we're going to keep this going. Like. what am I you know, what what's where. are we going to next? So I say to. Harland Williams, I'm like I think at. one point I said like I said, "How about. politics?" You know, like just thinking. to myself this absurd guy, if you ask. him about politics, like like how does. his absurdity like navigate that? And. that's what motivated me. So then. somewhere in in this back and forth. like effectively I say like, "Oh, yeah.

Well, all this with ICE makes. perfect sense because like. because the majority of immigrants are. murderers, right? This is the most. patently absurd comment that. I've ever made on the podcast. And yet. after it comes out it gets clipped on. its own and. the it genuinely looks like I'm not. kidding. Even though you cut to Harland. Williams, but it genuinely looks like I.

wasn't kidding. And then I open. up my phone and it's like basically. rotten hell uses that like you know, like you think like all immigrants are. murderers. Like Joe, I could not be more. the opposite of that. You know, like. You're you're being sarcastic. >> I was I I could not have been more. like I could not have been less serious. It was the most absurd. deliberately sarcastic thing I'd ever. said. And uh and dude, I just like now.

now and and I was in this place I was so. excited like man I was so excited about. doing my podcast. It was going, you. know, and then now I'm just like deluged. with this tsunami of hate. And that's. what's so. >> [snorts]. >> You know, did Did you respond? >> I did. Yeah, just say this is just. you're wrong. >> I posted on my Instagram. Okay. Like uh. like for for clarification, I said I. can't even said I was so shocked to.

believe that this absurd comment that I. made was like taken seriously. But like. just I can't believe I'm going to have. to do this. But for the for the record, you know, less than 0.1%. of the population is ever going to. commit murder. Of course, the majority. of no group of people is going. to commit murder. But if you want to. know how I actually feel, if there's a group of people that's more. likely to murder someone, it's ICE.

agents. >> [laughter]. >> You know, like And so then as soon as I. post that, now like the whole other half. of the world hates me. [laughter]. Yeah, I wouldn't have said that either. Right. There you go, you know, like and. my my sister is my my voice of reason. She like I was like, "Hey, what do you. think about this?" And she like made. like one small tweak. She's like, "Go. for it." I just posted that. I don't. even mind. You know, like I don't even. mind that. I I feel like if people are.

going to hate me, let them hate me for. like how I actually feel, you know, like. >> Right. And is that your watch? How dare you? Yeah, it's it's my my dad. I put my. on I don't do not disturb. Maybe your. dad goes through cuz he's like one of. your favorite people. >> yeah, he's on my he's on my speed dial. But yes, it was just a terrible. episode that I just went through and and. we set this up. like a couple months ago. Like this. happened like maybe three, four weeks. ago. Mhm. So I was like when it like you.

know, when I was texting with you, I was. like, "Oh man, I was in a. you know, like shitty place. I feel. really bad, dude. Like it'd be great to. get together. And then now since then. I'm like in a shitty place. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, well, you know, obviously that I. subject is a very hot subject. >> Yeah. People gotten mad at me for my. takes on it as well. You just You have. to do that. >> and you know what? Like you speak your. mind. Say what you really feel. If I'm. honest, I regret all of it. You know, like you know, I could have I could have.

worded my clarification in a way. that made [clears throat] a lot more. sense. I just It bothered me so much to. be so badly misunderstood. Yeah. >> I think I'm going to. >> Well, when you talk sarcastically with a. guy like Harland Williams, when you. around and you say things you don't. really mean, Right. >> that's going to happen. Like Duncan is. the best at that. Like Duncan Trussell, like he he will have entire podcast. where he pretends he's in the Illuminati. and he'll talk to another comic who. pretends he's one of the Rothschilds.

Our friend Tony gets Tony Cassias gets. on his podcast and what does Tony. pretend? A Rockefeller or a Rothschild? One of them. Yeah. >> So he I think it's a Rockefeller. I might be wrong, but I mean he he dyes. his hair for the episode and everything. and like [laughter] it's it's so. ridiculous and and people think he. really is one of those people. Meanwhile, he's a doorman at the. mothership. >> [laughter]. >> Um But Duncan will go through an entire. podcast without breaking character.

They'll talk about how important it is. to control the population. They'll talk. about how important it is to you know, spread misinformation and keep people in. the dark and how stupid the plebs are. >> [snorts]. >> Yeah, I just don't like I'm too. sensitive, man. >> [laughter]. >> You know, like. >> Yeah, well, it seems like it's not just. that you're sensitive. It seems like. you're seeking out input. You're you're. seeking you're seeking out feedback and. I just. >> [clears throat]. >> I think you're a little too famous for. that. I just don't think it's healthy. I've known so many people that are loved. loved by so many and yet they'll still.

find the people that hate them and dwell. on that. And uh uh I I've seen it with. like very successful people. It's just. It's just Louis said it best. Louis C.K. said it best. He said, "The internet is. just talk. It's just your It's written. down, so it seems more real.". >> [clears throat]. >> You know, cuz it stays up there forever. But it's just talk, just like people. talk in a bar, "Fuck that guy." You. know, people say things, and they're not. necessarily rational. They're not. necessarily Their opinions aren't. necessarily valuable. Some of them are,

and some of them aren't. But to go. through all that and figure it out, the. problem is your brain only recognizes. threats, danger, and people that hate. you, right? So you get 100 people that. love you, but one person who says you. suck, and you'll just think. about that guy, like, "Oh, no. That guy, he used to be a fan." Like. >> [laughter]. >> That's right. >> I unfollowed him a long time ago. Like. Right. Yeah, that makes sense. And you. know, another thing that that to that. point here I thought that when this Mr.

Beast came video came out, and I I won a. million dollars, I gave it to Doctors. Without Borders. Like I I just thought, "Oh, man, this is going to be. life-altering." And like it came in. >> [laughter]. >> You know, like I had one kid come up to. me in an airport and say, "Dude, you're. Steve-O from Mr. Beast." And I was like, [snorts] "Oh, wow." Different. generation. But other than that, like my. like I thought it would be. life-altering, and it really wasn't, you. know? Yeah. And then so now like in this. this little like this.

what what whatever you want to call it, backlash, this like thing, like I to me. it feels like the the whole world hates. me, you know? Like when in reality, it's. probably not. No, reality, everybody. feels about you the exact same way they. did before. It's crazy, man. It's crazy. cuz like I'm like I'll walk around and. think like, "Man, like people are. looking at me, and maybe they hate me.". >> [laughter]. >> I was I was talking to a friend of mine. who was one of the earlier ones to get. canceled. This is quite a few years ago. This is like more than 10 years ago.

Something happened online and someone. said something about something that he. said that was patently false, but it but. a lot of people believed it. And he. would you know, he made a. his own statement and then but then he. said everywhere I go, he goes, I know. this was small and it was only in the. comedy community, but everywhere I went. I felt like these people hated me. They. knew who they were and they were judging. me. So it was like it was tainting my. feelings everywhere I went. >> Right. Now imagine being Monica. Lewinsky. Oh my god, I know. >> no internet, Right.

>> right? So this is like there's no way to. tell whether people. are siding with you or not. Everybody. knows you sucked the president's dick. and you're 20. And you you have to go to. the store, you have to take guys. And if. if you don't blow a guy, he's like, what. the. >> [laughter]. >> You're like famous for it. >> Right. >> Yeah, I I I. >> [sighs and gasps]. >> It's. >> Every time she's probably giving head, she's thinking, oh my god, why am I. doing this? >> [laughter]. >> I I got This is what got me in all this. trouble in the first place. Right. >> I can imagine that kind of weirdness. Do.

you remember she did an HBO thing? She. did an HBO thing way, way back in the. day where she sat down to talk about. what this experience has been like for. her. And it was weird because there was a guy. in the audience that like she was like. taking questions I guess and the guy in. the audience was like, why are you doing. this? Like you say you don't want. attention, but here you are just getting. more attention talking about it. And. like you could tell like she didn't. really think that through. Like that. someone was going to have that kind of a. response and it was like that was kind. of like at the end of the thing. I think.

that like, you know, when you're in that. kind of situation, you want to on some. level clarify. Right. >> Like, you know, you want to Right. You. want to say your side of it. >> You're right, so. >> side of it ultimately for most people is. going to be trying to make yourself look. better. Right? And I think that's a problem. Yeah. [snorts] That's a problem. That. cuz that's very transparent and people. kind of know what you're doing. I think. it's always better like what you just.

did where you said like maybe I did. overreact or maybe I shouldn't have done. this maybe I That's a stupid thing to. say like. be. much more real about how you feel about. things. >> Oh, I blew it, Joe. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, I know, but I mean that's but it. doesn't matter, man. I'm telling you. this is all in your head. Everybody. still loves you. All right. Well, I did. that. >> same guy. The people who love you will. always love you. The people who hate you. It's like it's very rare that someone. who really loves you hates you. Like if. they do, they're usually mentally ill. and they want to. Like that I remember. when I was a kid, people would get mad.

if bands became famous and they'd be. like those guys, they're sellouts. And I remember we were in high school I. go, "Let me get this straight. This [laughter] is me at like 16. I go, "You love them. You think they're. awesome, right?" Yeah. I go, "But when. more people know they're awesome, then. they're not awesome anymore because now. they're mainstream." He goes, "Yeah." I. go, "Do you know how dumb that. sounds? The either they are awesome or. they are not. If they are awesome, more. people should know they are awesome.". And we're all just sitting around and a.

couple of my friends go, "Yeah." Like. yeah yeah this idea of like being. underground is Like. why would you want that? If you're. great, people are going to find out. about you. >> Right. It doesn't mean you sold out. It. just means other people found out you. were great. Like you recognize something. and you think you're unique in your. talent to recognize really good music. and only you can appreciate it and if. other people appreciate it then all of a. sudden it's not good. That is the. dumbest way to think I've ever. encountered in my life. I mean it.

to be fair, I think that the criticism. at that point is when They change. When. they're when they're trying to. >> Yes. to reach a more broad audience. >> Right. But there's a lot of bands like. for instance that are not doing that and. then just they just hit. Like. people are mad at Nirvana for getting. big. [laughter] Like, okay. But, I I I. couldn't agree with you more. I'm just. being a devil's advocate. Well, I get. it. I mean, but it's My point is, it's a. human inclination where you feel like. you're part of a small select group that.

really values and appreciates. [clears throat]. something. And all these normies, these. heads, listening to Debbie. Gibson or whatever they're listening to, you don't want those listening. to your super cool music. But, if it's. like Nirvana, guess what? It's so good. that everyone is going to want to listen. to that. And then it becomes big, you're. like, "Fuck those guys. They. sold out." Like, it's just a dumb You're just mad at. yourself. You're mad at your life. You're mad at your position in this. universe. >> Well, I think that life is just getting. really difficult, too. Well, this is now.

true. But, we're talking about people. were doing this back in the. '80s. They've always done this, man. This is just how people behave. And you add that to the internet, and. it's just everything's accelerated times. 10, times 100, times a million, whatever. the it is now. And And this is just. the beginning. You know, we're we're at. the brink of something really crazy. As. soon as AI takes over our society, which. is like within years, we're we're going. to experience the most radical change.

this civilization has ever seen. >> Like, it's it's it's literally a perfect. storm. Um with uh. just the unsustainable debt. Well, that's part of it. It's I mean, it's a big part of it. It's like. >> part of it. But, it's like even if it. was unsustainable debt, you have an. artificial life form that's emerging. that's infinitely smarter than human. beings. Well, what I'm saying is that. >> And has autonomy. The the unsustainable. debt. um like already over a trillion dollars. just paying for the interest alone. You.

know, like there's the all that now. like, you know, other nations, central. banks, whatever, like. they they the they want to de-dollarize. They're not buying the United States. Treasuries the way they were and that's. like how the United States has has been. able to overspend. is because they can sell the Treasuries. Now without people selling the. Treasuries, the only. like the only buyer of the Treasuries is. the Fed and they're buying the. Treasuries with printing money. Is that.

accurate? >> I think it's pretty close. I think it's. it's Other countries aren't buying our. Treasuries anymore? >> less so. It's becoming less. It's uh of. course they're still like the United. States Treasuries is the most liquid. like you know, but less so. So. when it becomes more difficult for the. United States to sell its Treasuries, they got to increase the yield which. means bigger interest payments. So at a. certain point it's like just the paying. the interest on the debt is like a.

crippling thing and by the Fed printing. money the way they're printing, you. can't inflate the money supply without. devaluing the dollar. >> Right. So inflation more and more is. going to be a thing. Maybe not Weimar. Germany or like Zimbabwe inflation, but. still inflation is not going to go away. You just can't have the money supply. increase without that being the case. And so. people's purchasing power goes down.

Their wages aren't going up. So like. people's people are getting more and. more squeezed with how much money they. can afford to spend and then on top of. that AI comes and wipes out all the. jobs. Yeah. Uh it's spooky. It's spooky because no one really knows. exactly what's going to happen. You know, or how it's going to happen or. how people will be um compensated in. order to keep society functional. You. know, uh Elon has this utopian vision of.

universal high income. Yeah, UBI. Universal basic income. >> No, no, no. Yeah, no. His his utopian vision is that so. much money will be generated from AI. that you'll be able to give people. universal high income. So, they won't. have to work. And so, they'll be able to. do whatever they want to do with their. life. That's the ideal perspective. The. problem is, obviously, that people find. a lot of identity in their work. Sure. I. mean, >> Especially if you went to school for it, you love it. This is the thing you've. done. You've been a lawyer your whole. life. You've been a doctor your whole.

life. You've been a this your whole. life. And then all of a sudden, AI comes. in and wipes that out. Like, What are. you going to do? You're going to play. golf all day? Right. >> And then you have a fixed income now. Because even if it's universal high. income, there's no incentive for you to. work harder and get more things done and. make more money, which is what drives a. lot of people and drives a lot of. innovation. So then, is all innovation. left up to artificial intelligence? Is. that what we're really going to do? Cuz. that seems kind of crazy. >> It's so crazy. I got to wonder like. >> our power. What keeps you going? I mean,

like like you you're in here doing these. podcasts all the time. I mean, the UFC. with like, you know, like you don't have. to be doing this. >> Everything I do is fun. I would do. everything I do for free. And I do all. the time. I do stand up for free all the. time. I do guest spots all the time. Everybody does. Every comic does. >> Oh my god, did I have so much. fun at Kill Tony last night. >> the best show. It's the best show in the. >> He's so. unbelievably talented. Like like. >> host of any live comedy show, rather, of.

all time. >> There's no way. >> good at it. Like like that like. the the amount of time when something is. presented that he nails the funniest. possible thing that you could react. Yeah, like it's written. Like you had a team of writers sitting. there for. >> 100%. >> coming up with the best line, and it. busts off the top of his head, and it's. always mean. >> [laughter]. >> He's the best. Okay. He's the best. >> I I I I know that he's sensitive about. man, he he wouldn't have wanted me to. say I was on it last night.

>> Why? Because he before the show he'd ask. the audience don't give away the secret. of who's the guest. It doesn't matter. All right. Then then I'll say one thing. because it was so Don't say what. happened. Cuz this show's going to come out before. that happens. Don't do that. >> So I'll tell you I. it's just. Suffice it to say that Tony Hinchcliffe. has got to be the fastest, wittiest. comic I've ever. >> Well, he's the best at that format. Like. and he created it, right? So it's like a. genius idea. Have comics do 1 minute.

Like well, dude, comics have done 1. minute the first time they've ever been. on stage at Madison Square Garden. [laughter] in front of 16,000 people and. ate dick. Right. >> Uh it's a great show. And then he has, you know, guys like David Tell, Shane. Gillis, you, Harland is like one. of the great greatest guests of all. time. Donnell. Yeah, yeah, Donnell's. [laughter] amazing. He's got I mean. uh. there's just so many. Right. And and.

like. >> Kyle Dunnigan who does like five. different characters that are. incredible. >> Yeah. Such high-level comics. Uh-huh. Adam Ray. >> I mean maybe the well well right, but. I'm saying like high-level feature. comics. Uh-huh. You know, who who aren't. like super known but they're so good. Yeah. >> seeking out to go I brought my opener. from tour. A guy who's not like widely known, but I. just love him and he's so funny. He's so. good. Like he. >> And he put his name in the barrel? Put. his name in the barrel. And he That's. the thing, too. If people asking me to.

get them on Kill Tony, I cannot. No one. can. That is true. That barrel is legit. That barrel is legit. You reach into. that barrel, Tony grabs whatever piece. of paper his hands touch, and he pulls. it out, and that's how it's always been. done, and that's how he's always going. to do it. Cuz people come to him all the. time. Hey, could you get my friend on. the show? He's like, I cannot do that. He like That is the show. Thank god. It's got to be chance. It's got to be. chaos. That's part of the fun of it. And. then every now and then someone that. you've never heard of comes up and does. a minute and everybody goes, "Fuck yeah,

that was awesome." And they kill it and. all of a sudden they have a career. >> Right. It's great. Okay. Um It's the. cornerstone of stand-up, too. It really. is. Because it's wild, all it's like. there are no rules, it's no holds. barred, and it's you you've got great. comics on the panel, and it has launched. careers. For sure. >> So because of that, like it is so. important for us having Kill Tony at the. club. It's so important because it sets. the tone for all these comics to know.

like, "Hey, this isn't just like some. random thing of I don't know what I'm. doing. How do I figure it out? How do I. get seen?" Like you there's a pathway. Yeah. >> you can get on Kill Tony and if you can. work your ass off before then and build. up a real solid routine and go on there. and kill it, you can have a. career. It's real. >> Yep. And then the club has two nights of. open mic nights and there's a real. development program and the real talent. coordinator, Adam Eget, who watches sets. and gives you feedback. The the the. opener that I'm talking about, and he. drove all the way from Tampa to be there.

last night. Uh his name's Chris Harvey. I love he's 6'4", 480 lbs, like missing tooth, beard, funniest guy. >> Where's he from? He's from. uh Ohio. Um. Is it Dayton? I'm not sure where where. it is, but uh I was I was at a comedy. club in Fort Wayne, Indiana, and he just. they they just set him up to open for. me. I watched his set. I was like, "What.

are you doing for the next 3 weeks?". >> Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. >> That's awesome. So did he get up on the. open mic night? >> He [snorts]. uh that that's where I I texted Tony, like, "Hey, I've got this opener. Can I. get him on?" And and Tony said I can get. him in the bucket. Who knows about. pulling him out, but I can also get him. on the open mic to perform for the the. booker. So he did that. Nice. Nice. And. >> Yeah, it's important that you can't just. get on the show. Because then he his. phone would be just overrun with people. get my boy on and then some of them suck. and That that makes perfect sense.

>> Yeah, you have to just let it happen. If. they suck, they suck. If they don't, they don't. You know, it's like anything. can happen. And that's part of the. beauty of it. It's like a real magical. moment when you're reaching into that. bucket and you pull out a name and Bob. Smith. And then Bob Smith comes on out. and gives it a shot. >> I made it. It was the I just had so much. fun, man. And I don't like being on the. end. >> [clears throat]. >> Cuz you're you're too close to these. psychos. You never [laughter] know. Like. I'm always on the edge. You want to be like protected by like. one body. Apologies to Tony for giving.

away that I was on it last night. Um. the He's not going to care. The you know what I want to talk talk. about? I I watched Brian Callen's. special very recent at the mothership. Like. it was like you got all these people. like, you know, >> [clears throat]. >> whenever anybody put That's the thing. about comedy is it's so. subjective that like it's just. the if anybody can on a special if. they want. And I saw these like YouTube.

videos like all Brian Callen's this is. the most worst bomb's going to like end. his career. I was like, come on. Like. let me. I was like. Let me watch this. I enjoyed the. hell out of Brian Callen's special. It's. one that he just taped at the. mothership. That's great. You guys stop. paying attention to people. >> Yeah. I I enjoyed. >> want it to suck. Like there's people. that think everything thinks Chappelle's. last special sucked. Oh my god, can we. talk about that? >> I didn't I haven't seen it yet, so.

Okay. The. the. >> it was awesome. The the Riyad. >> From people that I trust. The Riyad. comedy festival, right? Like it was such. like. apocalyptic nuclear bomb in the. world. >> to that? I didn't. No, but like there. was so much backlash from people who. went to it and there were like. individual comics had their their. >> [clears throat]. >> their their own way of kind of defending. their move to you know a lot of comics. were very defensive about how they went.

and and a lot of them maybe like were. seemed a little bit disingenuous about. like about in their defense and then. dude Dave Chappelle. puts out this special and so. unapologetic about him being at the. Riyadh comedy. It was just like. it was so masterful. He's a. master. The way he was just like oh like. I went to Riyadh and got paid like a. ton of money to do comedy and like.

so unapologetic and it was just like oh. my god. Well the idea is that you. support the regime by doing stand up. over there which I think is crazy cuz. you're doing it for the audience members. and the audience members have no say in. who their government is. They're. literally. I'm not even I I I don't even have a. judgment whatsoever especially because. have I ever not watched a UFC event. because it happened. in Saudi Arabia? no. >> or Dubai or wherever. Right. You you. don't do that with sporting events but.

you do it with comedy. I think the idea. is that comedians are supposed to be. social commentators and they're supposed. to like carry a baton for free speech. and. the one of the particularly egregious. things that's been attributed to Saudi. Arabia was the murder of Jamal Khashoggi. who was a journalist from the Washington. Post who was killed at the Turkish. Embassy and they cut him up with a. bone saw and some dark. Um. I get it. I get the criticism and I get. people saying well I'm going to perform.

for my audience and my audience is over. there and if they say I can't make fun. of I think you can't make fun of the. monarchy. You can't make fun of the their leaders. or the government and And can't make fun. of Islam or religion. I think maybe. might just be religion period. >> I yeah, I think it was you can't be. disparaging of Islam or the royal. family. >> Yeah. All right, well you got to decide then. if you know what those are parameters. are, you know, if you maybe it doesn't. fit with your act at all or maybe you're. like I don't have any bits about the. royal family or I could just go over and.

do my act for a bunch of people. uncensored. >> Right. I mean I I I. >> [clears throat]. >> I thought about it. I don't. >> I see both sides. >> I don't give a one way or the. other. My only input here is the Dave. Chappelle like. checkmated the whole. >> handles everything perfectly. And again, he's not on [clears throat] social. media. He's not paying attention to. people's opinions of him. You you cannot. because there's so many people that have. decided that he was a horrible. transphobe for telling a story about his. transgender friend. Like I mean.

literally told the story about this. person in his act and people didn't care. cuz he he made jokes about trans people. Like of course it's in the public eye. This idea that you can't joke about. something is If there's a thing you. can't joke about that thing is up. and that's why the Lakota used to have a. like a sacred clown. They called it a. heyoka. And a heyoka was like a member. of the community that was supposed to. make fun of everything. And if you. couldn't make fun of anything then you. knew something was wrong with that thing.

because if you if there's a thing that. you can't joke around about that thing. has been compromised, right? Cuz you can. kind of joke around about everything if. it's actually funny. No matter what it. is. >> Sure. Even tragedy given enough time you. can joke [clears throat] around about. it. >> Yep. I mean you could do a 9/11 joke. right now and no one's going to blink. Oh oh my god, you remind me of what I. think was the funniest tweet. that I ever saw from Jeff Ross. Going back that the year I want to say.

was like uh 2016. The Magic Castle in Los Angeles. There. was uh. like in the Magicians, you know, what a. magician was found hanging in a closet. in the Magic Castle. Yeah, he committed. suicide. >> had taken his own life. Yeah. That. morning. Jeff Ross tweeted that his last words. were "abracadaver". >> [laughter]. >> Jesus Christ.

That's funny. >> That's such a Jeff Ross type joke. That's a Tony Hinchcliffe type joke, too. Yeah. Yeah. abracadaver. Yeah. I mean, if there's a thing that. you can't make fun of, that that thing. is usually And if that thing. is trans people, like then you're you're. you are ignoring that there's a glaring. hole in this narrative that you're. trying to push and whether or not people. are accepting that narrative. You know, um I I'll be spilling out some of the. stuff that I have in my current hour, and I really don't mind. Um.

I. uh. For me, I feel like the bar has got to. keep getting higher and keep getting. higher. And so, as I went into putting. together this new hour that I'm touring. with, one of my multimedia bits. like. ended up not being a really great idea, but I thought. I'm going to get a boob job. Oh, yeah, I heard about that. >> Right. Did you do it? I didn't. I I I. That I was I was within 10 hours of. being under the knife. Yeah, I don't think you did.

>> like the universe just intervened, right? >> have to cut your muscle, man. Right. Well, like I mean, you know the uh Don't. they? Or do they go under the skin? They. go through your nipples? You can do it. in multiple different ways. I was uh I. was told. um I was interested in just the the idea. See, because like I I I'm I'm now in my. 50s, right? And so, like my whole new. hour is is the theme of it is how the. is Steve-O supposed to be in his. 50s, you know? Like and so, with the.

putting the stuff up my butt section is. like the importance of like we're at an. age we got to get. prostate exams, colonoscopies, you know, that's a real thing. And so I'm trying. to like de-stigmatize the prostate exam. >> Right. >> [laughter]. >> Sure you are. Right. >> not putting things up your ass for. entertainment. I'm I'm I'm blending it together and. it's pretty awesome. And uh you know, one one of my things is like um. you know, it's a rite of passage for men. in middle age to.

to one day you realize, "Holy I'm. getting tits." You know, like like uh. I I I noticed it one time. I'm like, "I'm I got dimples, you know, like actual under boob over. here." And it's like I'm. this wasn't supposed to happen to me. And so like that kind of was my. motivation. I'm like, "If. if this is going to happen, then like. I'm lashing out at Father Time. I'm. going to get a boob job." So I had the. guy um famous plastic surgeon from.

Botched, the Terry Dubrow, on my. podcast. And I was like. >> of those guys that fixes people? Yeah, Botched. [clears throat] He's great. I I. love that guy. Happened to be uh. brothers with the lead singer of uh. Quiet Riot, too. No way. >> Yeah. Come on feel the noise. Te- Terry Dubrow and and he was epic. So. on the podcast I was like, "Hey, I'm. thinking about a for wild crazy stunt. like get boob get you know, a boob job. and then just like film a bunch of. pranks and stunts and then get it out, you know, like wild publicity stunt. I.

feel like the whole world's going to. know about it." And uh she uh she had me. take off my shirt and he's like he's. like, "Yeah, your. your skin is already loose enough. You. could fit double D implants." He says, "But you got to get them out within 2. months or the stretching would be. unmanageable." Oh boy. >> And and in my head I'm thinking this is. the loudest craziest like this. is where the bar is at, you know? Like.

the the the You need better friends. The. the level. >> do. The level of commitment to do something. that up, like it I just thought. that and and I was really into the idea. and and I got I got I got super close. >> next time. >> [laughter]. >> Just call me, dude. Don't. >> Dennis said the same thing. Yeah, don't. do that. Call me. >> Dennis said the same thing and said no. Like I had blabbed it to the media, which is why you had you'd heard about. it. That so, you know, there are all. these articles. Mhm. It's the night.

before my operation and I get a. phone call like from the. the doctors, whatever guy. Says, "Hey. buddy, we hit a snag, man. Like uh. the anesthesiologist backed out. You. know, we got to reschedule the surgery.". I'm like, "Fuck, man." So, now the next. day they're trying to reschedule it. And I'm I'm buying groceries in the. supermarket. in LA and the the person ringing me up. on the cash register is. like seems pretty evidently transgender.

And I'm just like, "Dude, it's like. the universe is giving me signs. over here, you know?" And so like I I. asked this. Didn't even occur to me up to this point. that I'm going to that I need to like. run it by anybody because I'm like, "Fuck it. My body, my choice. Who cares, you know? I'm doing a dumb stunt to. like, you know, be crazy.". But in this situation talked to this. transgender this trans transgender. person. I'm like, "Hey, can I run. something by you? Can. And I spoke with them.

They described to me a level of. oppression that genuinely broke. my heart. They said, "Hey, let me tell. you. Like I am not allowed to use the. bathroom at my own place of work. We've. got like policies. >> That's not true. They're just not. allowed to use the bathroom that doesn't. align with their biological sex. Okay. Uh But you got to realize they're not. all Listen, I genuinely think there's people that. feel like they are the in the wrong. biological sex, right? But, there's also.

people that are perverts, and. they have a thing called autogynephilia. And what that is is they get a turn on. by pretending to be a woman. They get. excited by it, and they want to be. around women, and they're creeps. And. so, you give them a Willy Wonka. golden ticket to go into [laughter] the. Willy to the women's locker room, and. the women's bathroom, and stare at women. and pretend you're a woman when you're. just a crazy man, and you're actually. into women. Okay. >> That's real, too, man. I I don't doubt. that that's real, and I know that it's a. super complex, nuanced thing, and and uh.

I. >> Yeah, but here's what's not complex. What is your chromosomes? Right. Okay? [laughter] This is the same thing for. competing. All these mental. gymnastics that seemingly intelligent. people do to justify biological males. competing with females. >> I'm with you. I don't think anybody. is arguing. >> thing. It's the same thing. Right. >> And especially as speaking as a man who. has daughters, like there are creeps. And if you give a creep and I'm not.

saying all trans people are creeps, but. a lot of these people that are. in trouble for going into women's. bathrooms dressed as a woman with a. beard and a hard-on are just. that. They're creeps. They're crazy men. And these crazy men, their entire life. they would get beaten up for that. Now. all of a sudden, they have to be. accepted. So, you've got two things. going on at the same time. For sure. You've got people with gender dysphoria. that [clears throat]. >> Right. genuinely wish they were a woman, or genuinely wish they were a man. And.

by the way, it's men that are the. problem. No one gives a about trans. men going into the men's bathroom. Come. on in. Who cares? Right. >> Who cares? Oh, a girl's going to. next to you? Or what is she going to do? She's going to pee out of a funnel? What. is she going to. Like no one's going to get hurt. No. one's going to get hurt. This is the. problem. When you allow perverts to have. this hall pass to go into women's locker. rooms and bathrooms. So, you can't say. you're not allowed to use the bathroom.

where you work. That's not true. You're. just not allowed to use the women's room. where other women are in there because. you're not a woman. And I I know you. wish you were a woman or whatever's. going on, but you're not. >> you make a very very good point. >> If you're a woman, talk talk to most. women about this and it's. unless they're insanely captured by this. woke ideology where they can't see. reality and the fact that perverts are. still a real thing. And this. this loophole. You've given loopholes.

Like there's men in prison. I think it's. like 47 biological males in California. are housed in women's prisons. Some of. them are sex offenders. Some of them in. Canada, there's a guy in Canada that. they had to pay for his boob job while. he was in jail for being a sex offender. and they put him in a women's prison. Yeah. >> [snorts]. >> I'm not arguing with anyone. >> There's men who have pretended to be. women, gone into women's prison, had sex. with women and impregnated them. There's.

men who have sexually assaulted and. raped women in prison that are. pretending to be women with functional. dicks. All they have to do is identify, air quotes. When you just have to. identify, that's it? No operation, no. nothing. Identify. That is bonkers. And. do you think they're giving them. estrogen when they get in prison? Do. they give hormone replacement therapy to. people in prison? I don't know. [clears throat]. I don't know, but even then it's still a. man with estrogen. The you can't escape. your chromosomes, okay? And.

until you can. until there's some sort of a CRISPR. thing that like you really want to want. to be a woman, we can turn you into an. actual woman. Until that happens, what. you're dealing with is a form of gender. dysphoria, which has always been. classified as a mental illness until. people became much more empathetic and. sensitive to people that have this. problem. >> Right. Hey, and and you make a. completely valid argument. Um Nobody. should be able to tell you you can't do. something stupid like get a boob.

job because they are transgender. That's. I understood. Understood. My experience. was. that. Um I didn't get any of this like you. know sense that this is a. creepy pervert anything like that. Um I just thought. >> have to be a creepy pervert. Right. >> Right, but it's still a man. I. understood. I just thought man. Um. I I. I heard what they had to say about you.

know politicians trying to put them in. internment camps and you know Who's. doing that? Who's What politicians are. saying they should be put in internment. camps? >> some kind of uh There might be one kook. out there that's saying that to try to. get attention. There's no movement to. try to put transgender people in. internment camps. Okay, well then I'll. land on this. >> Do you know who's killed more people. than ICE this year? Trans shooters. Do you know the majority. of these high school shootings have been. transgender people? I I did not know that.

>> Yeah. How many of them? There was one recently. >> [laughter]. >> And yeah, it's a lot [clears throat] of. them. You know why? Because they're. giving them psych medications, they're. giving them a bunch of crazy hormones, and a lot of them probably have mental. struggles already. And they're ostracized from society and. fill in the blank. And then they're. empowered by thinking that the you know. that the world has done something bad to. them and that there's like a a genocide. against trans people. And they attack. J.K. Rowling and they attack all these.

people. Martina Navratilova, who's like. a famous lesbian for being a bigot. because she doesn't want biological men. competing with women in tennis. It's nuts, man. And it's like either you. go by biology or you do not. Either you. go by XY chromosome or. then you're in this weird gray. area where someone could just tell you. they're a woman. And that's how you get. men in women's prisons. >> Yeah. All right. You've You've convinced me.

>> mean you can't be kind. It doesn't mean. you can't I'm I am I try to be kind to. everyone. And if I know if I meet. someone who's trans, if they want me to. call them Stacy or whatever like. I know a couple trans people. My friend. Jim Norton is married to a trans woman. Yeah. Super cool with them. Hug her every time. I see her. I'm cool with that. But at. the end of the day, if I was a woman, I I want biological women in my I think. the solution is individual bathrooms. whenever feasible. And if you want to. have an all gender bathroom,

good luck with the legal ramifications. of that if it's a bar because then any. guy can and go in there and any guy. and girl can go to the if it's a. multiple stall bathroom. >> Right. But the solution is XY. chromosome. And the solution is like if. a guy walks into the men's room with a. dress on and he's trans, just leave him. alone. Leave him alone. Let him go to. the bathroom. Like what what is the big. deal? Yeah. >> You're like at the end of the day, we. have to understand that like what is. more important? One person's feelings or. the safety of all these women? And.

the safety of all these women is much. more important. Yep. So you you got to. be kind to people, but also you got to. have rules. There's a reason why there's. a women's room and a men's room. It's. cuz some men are creeps. And if. you allow those creeps to just put on a. dress, well you And again, I'm not. saying all trans people are like this at. all. But you can't have that loophole. You can't It's like you what can't have. an open border. Doesn't mean that all. the immigrants are murderers and you. don't think that either, right? But some. people that sneak across the border if.

you don't check are going to be. murderous. It's just a fact. Yeah. So. you have to have a closed border. check and you have to have a gender. border, too. Yeah, well, god damn it. And and my only takeaway from my. experience that I was relating to you is. that uh. it made me feel compassionate. Well, that's nice. >> want to be I want to be a good. >> That's good. A better reason would be. it's stupid to get a boob job. [laughter]. Don't do it. No one's going to like you. more or think you're cool cuz you got a. boob job at 52. >> glad. >> Don't. I'm glad that.

>> are you now? >> 51. >> Yeah, that's too old for a boob job. >> Yeah. Even if you're a girl. I'm uh I'm. >> you got just got divorced and you're. like, I need some new dick. I got to go. I'm really glad that I didn't do it. >> Yeah, me, too. [laughter]. If you were here with a boob with two. giant boobs, I'd be like, I don't know. what to say to this guy. This is so. stupid. You know who was who was into. the idea, thought it was really. funny, was Bert. >> Of course. [laughter]. Of course. Also, he has his own boobs. >> [laughter]. >> Right. Bert goes back and forth, but.

he's light now. He's uh he quit drinking. for like 6 months. Oh, man, and his. >> little bit of a health scare. His. sitcom on Netflix is really. >> good. So good. He's funny, man. He's a. fun dude. It's just like he's another. guy that is like a little overexposed. He does so much promotion and so much. stuff, like you. You know, like the. talking about that thing where you get. the feet the the negative feedback. He. got a lot of negative feedback for over. promoting shows, but. don't listen. Don't watch it. Who cares?

>> Right. If you do If you think he's. promoting himself too much, just don't. pay attention. >> Let me Let me Let me run this by. >> There's to be angry about in the. world. >> Sure. Bert Kreischer promoting a comedy. special is not on that list. Right. Let. Let me Let me run this by Okay. The. Okay, so I decided like I'm only going. to promote things that that are healthy, you know, or at the very least don't do. harm. Okay. >> I felt really good about that. >> So what are you promoting that you have. a problem with? >> [laughter]. >> Well, I don't.

I I see uh. this this guy Brian Johnson, the the. >> Oh, the guy who wants to live forever. Yeah, the guy who wants to live forever. I'm fascinated by him. >> Okay. I had him on my podcast and uh I I. and you know, because he's a unique guy. But, I see him he's on this warpath. against AG1. And I'm like. God damn it. >> [laughter]. >> I'm like Well, he sells a competing. supplement. >> Right, that sounds Here's the thing. about AG1. >> for for what it's worth, I drink AG1.

every goddamn day and I love it. >> It's a vitamin. It's a multivitamin. It's not the end-all be-all, it's going. to fix your health, but. vitamins are good for you. And if you. can get vitamins in a simple travel pack. like AG1 has and throw them in your book. bag and take them with you places, it's. better than not having vitamins, period. That's it. That's all it is. Yeah. >> Um I think. part of the problem that people have. with AG1 is maybe they overstated some. of the benefits of the probiotics and. prebiotics. Like when people have.

analyzed the um the nutrient density of. these packs and what the ingredients is, that's been their criticism. But, criticizing a multivitamin that you're. taking in a liquid form, like that seems. kind of silly. Like it's Is it going to. be the best thing that you've ever done. for your health? No, being in shape and. eating well is the best thing you've. ever done for your health. But, having. like some sort of uh nutritional. insurance, some sort of little thing. little thing that you add to your your. food every day, to your you know, your.

Really, it's designed to fill in the. gaps in your diet. It's it's a good. thing to have vitamins, period. That's. it. Vitamins are good. And it tastes. good. I. A lot of people say AG1 doesn't taste. good. I like the way it is. >> simple. you think it's too expensive or. you think it's not good enough, then. okay, don't take it. Whatever. But, if you take it, it's not. bad for you. There's a lot of things. that are bad for you. HGH is not bad for. you. It's vitamins. It's pretty. simple. Pretty simple stuff. Okay, good. Take it. or don't take it. Who cares?

You know, people worry too much again. about stupid You have a. brief amount of time in this. You're. halfway dead, Bubba. You know, you don't. have much time on this planet to be. worrying about stupid Thank you, Joe. Yeah. Thank you. >> Don't Don't do it, man. >> Okay, I want I want I just want to be a. good guy. Yeah. That's my thing. >> Then just be a good guy, but don't worry. about it all the time. Good. >> That ain't good for you. Yeah. >> Don't be in your head like. >> you know what? You're in your head. worrying about your public image. You're. in your head worried about where you are. in your career. You're in your head.

Just do your best. Yeah. Do your best. all the time. Yeah. Um If you enjoy what you're doing. and you do your best, everything's going. to be fine. Yeah. Or not. I I do. >> Or you die. You know, like you can't. control that either. So, what do you. just keep going? Yeah. Just stop being in your head. Everybody. is like, you know, you've gotten this. all mapped out and a lot of what you're. mapping out is other people's opinions. of you. Like, oh, there's no better way. to up your life than to live for.

other people's opinions. There you go. Yeah. I mean, do self-auditing. Do some. self-assessing. You know, there's. many times in my life when I'm unhappy. with myself. And so, I don't I fix it. Figure it out. >> Fix it. Do it but do better. Do fix. that. Fix this. Don't don't do as much. of that. Do less of this. Do more of what you think is good, you. know? Yeah. Try to be a nicer person. Try to. be kind. Like, it's like you can but. don't sit around worrying about what. each individual commenter thinks about.

you. God, that's crazy for you. It's. you're you're absorbing too much. negativity and it's this is the message. that I give to everybody. Look, there's. a great benefit to social media. It's an. amazing tool and it's changed society. However, it's just like gambling. It's. just like pornography. It's just like. food. You can get wrapped up in it and. it could be your whole life if. you let it. It's been over a decade since I watched. porn. That's awesome. Yeah.

Good for you. >> [clears throat]. >> And [snorts] some people it's been about. 5 minutes. >> [laughter]. >> Some people are watching porn on split. screen right now while they're watching. [laughter] this. They're they're jacking. off right now to a gang bang while. they're listening to Stevo talk about. how oh, you missing out. >> [laughter]. >> You know how many people are subscribed. to OnlyFans? We were looking this up the. other day. It's like what are the. numbers of Americans? It's something. shocking. It's some insanely shocking. number. It's like 100 plus million. subscribers to OnlyFans. Damn.

And then with women it's some somewhere. between. like the ages of 18 to like 20. something, it's like 10% of the. population is on OnlyFans. As content. >> As content creators. >> Wow. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what's weird is cuz like if. you think about it, if you on. camera, right? You're kind of you're a. porn star, right? But maybe you're only.

your boyfriend. Maybe you wear a. mask. Okay. But you're. are you doing it for money? What if you have sex with other people. for money? Is that prostitution? So what. if they just said, "Well, let's just. legalize prostitution." Do you know how. many people would become. prostitutes if they got desperate? Like. Uber driver, prostitute. [clears throat]. Right. >> What do you want to do? Like there's a. lot of people who'd go into. prostitution. And some people think they. should have that right to do that and it. should be freedom and freedom of. expression and freedom of occupation.

And then other people go, "That might. not be the best for society.". >> I had this crazy thought at one point. What are the numbers for OnlyFans? >> [clears throat]. >> There's no official numbers. It's. somewhere in range of 100 to 150. million, but Wow. >> only 4% of those are actually people who. pay. Oh, how's that work? Uh, they're free. accounts. Okay, so what percentage is. people that pay? >> 4% sorry. 4% 4? 4.2 4? Um Oh, so there's 100 million people.

accessing free content and 4% of the. users actually complete paid. transactions. Wait a minute, but does it cost money to. join? Nope. It doesn't cost to join. >> It's up to the person who's making the. content. So is a paid transaction mean. you subscribed? Depends. So like there. So if you go on OnlyFans, um you have to subscribe to each. person's content, right? Yes. Okay. So it's only 4% that are doing that. So. over 100 million creepers they're just.

checking it out. Well. That's where you go people people have. multiple accounts. Right. That's a good. point. Um why? Well, for various. reasons. I wouldn't get into that. >> [laughter]. >> James has got multiple accounts. I've never subscribed to OnlyFans. Of. course not. I was joking. But I mean so. 4% is not as much, but it's still. >> that are paying. 4 5 million people that are paying. >> Yeah, it's a lot. paying and um And what.

are the percentage of young girls that. are on OnlyFans as content creators? And they're not all showing the cooch. Some of them are just a little nip slip, maybe just a bikini shot, you know, G-string, bend over, but it's still But. then you've got like the Bad Baby chick. make like 50 million dollars on there. >> that's crazy. What did she do on there? I don't know. I've no idea. According to. these numbers, 4 to 4.6 million creators. worldwide with 1 million of them being.

in America. Oh, that's it? So when they said it's 10% of girls 18. to 49, what percentage of girls not 18-4. 18-25? [clears throat]. It's I think that was the number. What. percentage of girls put that in 18-25 in. America are have an account on OnlyFans? Percentage of girls between 18-25. in America. have an account on OnlyFans. Okay, let's. see here.

Let's see what it says. 10%. 14% of American women aged 18-24 have an. OnlyFans account. That's crazy, dude. That is really crazy. >> That's crazy. 14%. of American women aged 18-24 have an. OnlyFans account. That is wild. >> an estimate though just for argument's. sake. Yeah. >> are not official numbers. I don't think. in any way. I I had this crazy thought. hypothetically.

>> estimate. Hypothetically if you had like. brick-and-mortar establishment with a. bunch of chicks in there and an Or else. you mean? Right, yeah. And and an ordained minister so that. like a guy could walk in pick out a. woman and Marry them? marry them on the. spot. So then now that's your wife and. you are. consummating your marriage. That's got. to be totally legal and then as you. leave the establishment you annul the.

marriage. Is that not like. would that not just automatically. >> That's a prostitution loophole. Well, one thing you could do is you could have. a thing where you could fall in love. immediately and get married and give. someone citizenship. Right. But as soon as you. >> [laughter]. >> Well, they come and visit you. They want. to see if you're like really in love. Like they're like how long you guys. known each other? It's crazy. >> Let me see you hold hands. Let me see. you kiss. I know a bunch of people who.

have gotten married for just. citizenship. >> Oh, yeah. >> I know a dude who married a girl for. citizenship. Yeah. But but uh you got to stay. married. Yeah. It was he did it for her. She was uh where was she from? I. forget. But they didn't even really have. a relationship. I think she was from. Russia. They didn't really. >> they they seem to tend to be from. Russia. Yeah, see it was just like they. made a deal. I think it was a financial. deal. This is the '90s. He's dead now. Okay, I want to ask you, do you believe. in reincarnation? I don't not believe in.

it. I think that there's like pretty. like solid evidence. to like if not irrefutable, but like you. got little kids that are like giving. like details that check out. >> Mhm. Total like you know, and and they. know like. >> There's another alternative. The that. alternative is genetic memory. And um so. we know that some memories are. transferred through genes. And this is. one of the reasons why arachnophobia uh.

exists. Uh arachnophobia is an. irrational fear of spiders. Right. >> The the idea is that at some point in. your genetic lineage someone got really. up by a spider. Either you. witnessed someone dying from a spider. bite or you almost died from a spider. bite, and that memory is transferred. through the genes. The same with a. fidiophobia, which is uh a fear of. snakes. Okay. >> There's irrational fears that some. people have that they attribute to a. possible genetic memory. And then there's also there's genetic. memories like.

that are in animals that we know for a. fact. Like a dog does not have to be. taught. Like I have a golden retriever. And Marshall. He's the best. And you you. don't have to teach Marshall to bring a. ball back. He's a retriever. He has some. sort of a genetic memory. And he also I didn't have to teach him. to pee in a bush and lift his leg. Like. he knew how to do that. He just it's in. there it's in their system, right? There's a bunch of things that are in. their system. There's they see animals. they get excited they want to bite them. Like, it it's not a learned behavior. Like, that dog's super well-fed, but he.

will a squirrel up if he catches. it. Why? Because it's in his genetics. It's in his. >> instinct. >> Right. So, then with humans, think about. all the different things that humans. learn. And think of all the different. fears that humans have, and how many of. them are programmed. Like, um Rupert. Sheldrake had a really important point. once about um what children are afraid. of. He goes, "So, you think about it, what are children afraid of?" They're. afraid of monsters in the dark, right? They're They're not afraid of child.

molesters or murders or rapists or car. accidents. They're not afraid of They're. not afraid of things that really can. harm them. They're afraid of monsters. And most children, especially living in. a city, have never seen a monster, right? So, why they afraid of this. thing? Well, it's because there's a. genetic memory of us being. preyed on by cats. And big cats who killed people forever. hid in the trees, they hid in the dark, and you'd go out to get water and they'd. you up and kill you. And so, that. is in little kids' memories. So, if.

there's. if there's these kind of peripheral. abstract memories or or really radical. sharp memories that don't make sense, like arachnophobia and things like that, like. it's so possible that it's not just. those things that are transferred. through the genetics, but also learned. experiences and maybe even information. You just don't have a way of expressing. it yet. That's one of the reasons why. you'll notice that a lot of the children. of talented musicians are really. talented, even when they're adopted,

even when they grew up in different. families. They might have never even. been around that parent, but they have. like some sort of innate musical talent. or literary talent or or something. It's. I think there's some things that get. transferred in DNA that we're not. totally aware of. It's not like you get. a menu list of all the things that you. got from your parents. Oh, look, my dad. was into history, that's why I'm into. history. My Look at Look at all these. things. I think there's a lot of stuff. that transfers that maybe gets filed.

away and maybe other people have access. to those memories that you don't. Like. there's weird levels of memory. retention. We were talking about Mary. Lou Henner from Taxi the other day. What's that disease she has? It's not a. disease. It's the opposite of a disease. It's an amazing ability. She has this. incredible ability. You can tell her. July 2nd, 1976. She could tell you it. was a Tuesday. She could tell you what. happened, what was in the news, >> Wow. who did what, what she did, what. color clothes she was wearing. Highly.

superior autobiographical memory. Now, imagine if that, whatever that is, that. incredible memory is passed genetically. occasionally and passed into some. children and then they don't just get. the memory of their own life, but they. get the memory of previous lives that. other people have lived. Okay. So, you think about how many. different generations of human beings. had to exist before Stevo was born. You. have all of this DNA and all of this.

information inside of your genes, supposedly. Maybe you can access some of. that and that some of it that you're. accessing might be what we're calling. reincarnation. Okay. I I What is this, Jamie? >> This is the doctor who is a specialist. in reincarnation at the University of. Virginia. His name is Dr. Jim Tucker. He's continuing the work of. a previous doctor. I think Hammond is. his last name. >> Interesting. >> These are the two most repeated stories. I've heard about that they that people. talk about as a kid that repeats stories.

of plane crash when he was a pilot. Mhm. He's got a lot There's There's further. videos I've watched on this kid. So many. details are insane. >> Right. Details verified against. historical records of a pilot who died. 50 years earlier matching exactly. despite no prior family exposure. Okay, well, that's very different. So. >> met people and recognized them I think. and even pointed out some things. >> Well, yeah. Okay, so that but here's the thing. If. that kid is not related in any way to. this person who died from the plane. crash. >> I don't believe so. then we're talking.

about something totally different then. But what what you are getting at there. is discussions of this kind of overall. work. I think it's on here where people. talk about that it's. Deepak Chopra says it's a little bit. like quantum physics. So how this happens isn't known. obviously because this guy even says it. starts I think between like age. [clears throat] two and by age five or. so all the memories are kind of gone and. they don't remember this stuff anymore. Wow. >> It's like very fleeting. You can't. really ask a lot of questions. They have. to just tell you and if you start asking.

too many questions, they freak out some. of the kids start crying and they don't. need like it goes away. >> Wow. >> It's very odd but there's. >> Well, what's really odd is that it goes. away. >> Yeah. That's really odd. >> but as you were saying with Marilu. Henner, hers doesn't even start until. she was age 11. Interesting. So she had. memories before that. It's always little. kids that have um. memories of of past lives and they're. they're supposed to name the. the Dalai Lama. based on a kid having a memory. You.

know, it's supposed to be a. reincarnation thing. Oh. You know, I I'm fascinated by that and. also um kind of in the same vein of it. um. so many irrefutable examples of where um. consciousness is evident separate from. the brain. Like you've got the uh. you know, like people with no brain. activity whatsoever. You know, like. they're they're officially dead. You. know, they're in the hospital and the.

they're. they wake up, come back to life, whatever the case may be and they're. explaining to the doctor what was. happening while they were unconscious. Yeah. And to the extent that that can. maybe be explained for what have you. know they were in the room. A lot of these cases they're. they wake up and they say what the. doctor was doing in a different part of. the hospital. You know, like there's. there's there's there's a case of a guy.

a doctor he was like had you know had a. a patient and you know he's in the. cafeteria at the hospital he gets like. spills some spaghetti on his shirt or. something he's like oh man I got a stain. on my shirt so he like puts his lab coat. you know over it and then does it up and. then the patient wakes up and says oh. yeah I saw you spilled the on your. shirt you know like there's a lot of. evidence of consciousness. like operating separate from the brain. and I had the most fascinating.

conversation with Duncan Trussell about. the idea that that the brain. is not a. a generator it's not a transmitter. of consciousness yeah it's an antenna. Yeah. You know and that explains a lot. of stuff to me. you know about the about the soul I was. saying like to to Duncan Trussell. imagine. that uh that we're like more we're more. of a radio like an antenna you know like. you can take a radio and with a.

sledgehammer just smash it to. smithereens you've done nothing to. disrupt the actual signal. Mhm. So the. you know the the you know. that signal can now tune in be picked up. by another radio and that kind of. explains reincarnation to me on some. level and Duncan Trussell hears that he. goes yeah and he got so many. people walking around they they they. they don't realize they're a radio they. think they're THE BEATLES. >> [laughter].

>> THAT'S HILARIOUS. >> [laughter]. >> YEAH. >> DUNCAN'S SO FUNNY. >> He's so good. >> Such a unique human. Yeah, and so all of. this stuff is like super fascinating to. me. Um It is interesting, but there's no. answers. So, it's like there's a reason. why so many societies and so many. civilizations for a long time have. believed in reincarnation, afterlife, that there's some sort of disembodied. consciousness. There's a There's a.

reason. >> Consciousness But then it gets really. weird. It's like they've also believed. in. beings that have come down from the. heavens. So, what are those things? >> Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> What are those things? What's that. about? Who are those people? How about. near-death experiences? Well, near-death. experiences you could attribute to a lot. of things, right? Um one of the things. you could attribute to is an endogenous. dump of psychedelic chemicals that we. know the brain makes under stress. And one of the big ones is. dimethyltryptamine, which we we know.

your your body makes. And it. there's a lot of people that think that. it's sort of a chemical gateway, and. that that what you're doing is getting a. peek into the afterlife that when you're. having these DMT experiences, and that. when you're having a near-death. experience, that's your brain flooding. with DMT to prepare you for leaving this. world. Okay. It's just weird that they all have a. very similar thing about going through a. tunnel [clears throat]. and a light at the end of the tunnel. It's like this.

it's a journey. And what is I you know, I haven't had a near-death experience, so I don't know what it's like. >> who who had one? Jeremy Renner. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With the snowmobile. accident. Like I'm so fascinated by. near-death experience. um videos on YouTube. You got people. thousands people have had the experience. of dying, been on the other side, and. they describe what's called life review. Okay? Like there's the the saying that. everybody's familiar with that when you. die your life flashes before your eyes.

However, the way that these people. describe it. it's that. on the other side of death, like as, you. know, a spirit, like somehow the concept. of time is like doesn't apply anymore. So, you've got like it's not like that. your life flashes before your eyes. because time isn't like there's no time. constraint. So, you've got like. you know, unfathomable like immersion. where, you know, without time. And that.

it's not that your uh. you know, experiencing your life as you. as you experienced it, but rather you're. they describe experiencing your life in. the most like, you know, I guess. important memorable moments from the. perspective of the people who. who you influenced, you know, the people. who you had an impact on. And and it's not just from their. perspective, but in this near-death. experience life review, the way that. they describe it you are those people.

You know, it's like And and every. you know, all the scriptures, all the. spirituality, like there's this this the. idea that. that separation is an illusion. That at. the end of the day of that there's only. oneness. We're all one thing. We're all. eyes in the same head. You know, we're. all the same thing wearing different. costumes. Right. So, that begs the. question, like why are we separate? Like. what's the purpose of being separate? >> For like the that as I understand it.

uh the way that that. you know, what I've bought on to is that. the universe, you know, everything, you. know, like God Uh-huh. in the absolute form, God as one thing. cannot have experience because. there's nothing to to relate to, you. know? And so. God in the absolute sense is kind of a. it's pure love, it's this pure. awesomeness, but it's very lonely,

you know, proposition. So, the idea of. the separation is the universe, God, like. blasts itself into infinite different. things to create the realm of the. relative. So, now there's, you know, we. have the separation. So, now we can. relate to one This allows for God to. experience itself. Huh. >> Which you would never be able to do. You. would never be able to have up and down.

or, you know, and like anything. [snorts] So, it's like the the whole. point is for experience. Right, but what's the benefit of. experience for God? To. to know itself. >> So, this is in regards only to human. beings or to all animals? Um. different uh. like. the souls and I go down these. rabbit holes, dude. Like particularly. uh recently. Um. I uh did this whole audiobook, a modern.

English version of a book that was. published in 1857. by a French dude named Allan Kardec who. uh. the it's called The Spirits' Book and. you know, you've like got all these. mediums that he's communicating with and. putting together all this like, you know, definitive book on spiritism. Right. And um. the the way that that book describes it. is that uh. animals have souls, but not souls that.

um. with like moral. implications of the growth or, you know, the purpose of our separation and and. and the purpose of our experience. is to have free will, to have the choice. to do good or bad or, you know, whatever, but. to evolve as a soul. where you evolve towards being loving. and you know, like.

>> Where was he getting this from? From. mediums. From From mediums. So, the. spirit world was telling him this. Yeah, and like crazy like like. a lot of like I just. The problem with mediums is the problem. with him problem that you have with. trans people using the the bathroom. Some are legit. [laughter]. Sure. And some of them are just not, you. know? And that that that's the issue. with anybody saying that they know. exactly why, you know, and what what is.

the difference between the way animals. think and behave and humans think and. behave. >> Well, just I think with animals there's. um. you know, it's that they're like They're. in the wild. They need survival. Survival, you know? Where like where. humans have kind of a higher level of. like a higher bar to meet because we. have like more there's more moral. implications to the way we conduct our. lives. Yeah, well, we've also figured. out shelter, right? So, we're a little. bit set we have doors. And so, we're not. set we're separated from the wild world,

which has a lot allowed us to have a lot. more time to innovate and think. Um it might be correct. I think that. >> But it's just interesting cuz it's like. the problem is people like they buy in. to uh things as being like absolute. truth and especially things that are. exciting like spiritual mediums and. spirits and. channeling and all that I I with I. think that with the near death. experience, you know, all these. thousands of people have had the.

accounts. There's um. there's a society of near death. experiencers like you know, official. like where you know. >> What if any frauds slip in there with a. fake story of almost dying? I don't. doubt. I don't doubt it. But the consistency. across all of the account these. accounts. It's like it it it kind of. like lends legitimacy to me, you know? >> the case with the alien abduction. experience as well. That's a That's. another weird one. It's like I want to. dismiss it out you know, I haven't had.

it so I'm like, "Ah, these people. It's not real.". >> Sure. But man, it gets weird. It gets real. especially when you go you read like. Jacques Vallee's work and you realize. this stuff has been going on in the. 1700s, 1800s. They just had a different. way of talking about it cuz they didn't. have the idea that a. physical craft could fly in the sky. that's made out of metal. To them, that. was alien. Right. >> Didn't make I mean, for lack of a better. word. But so they didn't describe it. that way. But they did describe meeting.

these creatures and being taken away and. waking up and. >> Yeah, things [clears throat] like that. It's like. there's so many of those stories. And. then the actual stories of people that. have been. uh supposedly abducted that have these. stories of these encounters. They're. oddly similar regardless of where they. live in the world, which is real weird. Right. >> And it's one of those things that's like. if if it hasn't happened to you, you. really wouldn't be able to describe it. like Sure. And if you did you wouldn't. believe and if it did happen to you,

you'd be like, "How am I even going to. tell anybody about this? Right. >> Cuz no one else has this experience so. this is going to be a crazy thing that. I'm going to talk about. Everyone's. going to think I'm a cook." That's been. that's been a lot of people's experience. I think up until recently. Sure. >> like with with the way that people. describe the the life review, you know? And they describe like things where they. said something nasty and that you know, they did whatever. They did something. like you know, hurtful. And in their. life review, they are the person. They.

feel that sorrow and they come back like. with like such a. maybe remorse, maybe like more like. heightened compassion, like less I'm. interest in material things. And. and I just think to myself, "Oh my god, like in my life, like when I was such a. nightmare. with drugs and sex and all the. crazy you know, just like. I I would did a lot of like created a. lot of wreckage, you know, I think I was.

harmful and hurtful. I've been better, but even like coming up I'm almost 18. years clean and sober. Even in those 18. years, I've you know, I've had a bad. temper of like what I you know, whatever. and like you know, overly and You're a. human being, man. Right. The trajectory. of my life, I believe has been much like. that's upward improvement, which which. I'm really grateful for. But when I hear. about the these accounts when people. describing the life review, I think, "Oh. my god, I got to You're worried about a.

comment section in heaven. >> [laughter]. >> That's literally what you're sitting. here tweaking out about. A little bit. Like a little bit. Like a what you know, I view the remainder of my life as an. opportunity, like a big gigantic. opportunity to stack the good and. you know, like. be just be be more Well, that's good. So. I'll just go around. >> Look, anything that gives you motivation. to be a good person is good. >> Yeah. That's great. If that's how you. have to do it. Yeah, I'll keep like a. big wad of cash in in my pocket.

so I can just give. 20 bucks to every Uber driver, every. homeless person, like you know, and I. think like. yeah, maybe that's just. selfishly I want to have a BETTER LIFE. REVIEW. >> [laughter]. >> WELL, IF SELFISHLY WANTING TO HAVE A. better life review makes you be a nicer. person, then that's worth it. 100%. I care about that so much. Okay. Yeah. So you're in your own head a lot, huh? Yeah, it's a pretty narrow Do you have. anything else you do that like wears you. out? Do you do anything physical? Do you.

do like hard workouts that like drain. you of anxiety and. >> Uh. you know, I do yoga every day for 30. minutes. >> And and uh I got the perfect push-ups. You ever do those? Sure. I just got this. killer strength machine in uh at my. house in Tennessee that I haven't been. to in 2 months. Yeah, for a lot of people that's a. relief from anxiety like hard workouts. Like this cuz. >> Look, there's benefits to having regret.

because you course correct and you. become but after a while you can't be. thinking about it all the time. because then what you're doing you. you're addicted to self-analysis. Right. >> a lot of people out there addicted to. self-analysis. There's a lot of people. that love going to therapy so they can. talk about themselves and talk about. their feelings. And some of that is. really good for you and some of that is. very beneficial cuz you could develop. tools that can help you manage your. life. But there's also people that are. just narcissists and just like going to.

a place where it's all about them for an. hour. You know. >> And this is this is a problem with. self-analysis and living in your own. head. As that cuz you got to get outside of. your head. Yeah. >> This is the benefit of psychedelics. They get they get you outside your head. And you know and in living in that whole. what does everybody think about me? Let. me check. Oh, what do I do? Oh, my bad. guy. Right. Not good for you, man. And not. it's it's not just it's not productive.

Like it doesn't allow you to do the. things that you want to do in life. efficiently and effectively. Whoa. What. was I saying here? Serious listening in? Why do you have that thing? Get rid of. those watches. Those are. ridiculous. Watch should tell you the. time. That's it. Should be. reading emails to you. You have a phone. Yeah. >> Stop. Stop with all this that you. carry around with you. It's all so. Right. addictive and. >> through me, Joe. Like uh I I do my my. head is very mean to me, man. Well, um.

it also could be the kind of people you. surround yourself with. You know, uh if. you're around other people that think. more along the lines of look, you got to. have radical self-forgiveness for your. past. You got to let it go. You're not a. loser from You're not the guy who got. stuffed into a locker in high school. Okay, you got to let that go. And it's. hard for people. There's people that. were so bullied in high school that they. will go to high school as a. grown man with children and they will. get anxiety and panic. in that same high school because they.

still associate themselves with who they. were back then. And you know, at a. certain point in time, you have to you. have to move on. You know, you have to. let it go. Yeah. And. you know, it's good to recognize your. flaws and want to improve upon them. up to a point. And then you got to. concentrate on what you're doing and. what you enjoy doing and just doing a. good job at everything that you do. And. one thing that prevents you from doing a. good job at everything you do is. constantly being in your own head. Right. >> It can get in the way. Yeah.

You know, I I I I got this um. I moved out to Tennessee. I got this big. property. >> Yeah, Nashville? 45 minutes north of Nashville. >> Okay, so you're out in the woods. >> I'm out in the woods. Yeah, all of the. you know, fancy like. >> hear a yeehaw in the middle of the night. and get worried you hear shotguns in the. distance? No, but I've got these great. neighbors, man. Like. uh. my neighbors. My neighbors are so awesome, man. Like I. I I got the place in September 2023, so.

I've been there a while. >> How did you choose uh that area? You. know what it was? Like uh. I got the um. I I I I started hearing about people. getting notifications from their. insurance companies in LA that their. homeowner's policy wouldn't be renewed. because of the risk of fires. And I was like, dude, I live in the. Hollywood Hills. Like my it's just a. exercise in waiting for my house. to burn down. Like I've got this. house is uninsurable,

you know? And like I was like, "Man, I. don't want to. be waiting for my house to burn down. I. want to And And I want it to have a. bunch of land so I can open up an animal. sanctuary, you know? That's my deal.". >> cool. Yeah, so I knew that I wanted to. to get a place outside of California. And um. who was It was. It was supposed to be Cory Sandhagen. against Islam in Nashville, Tennessee. And I was like, "Oh my fuck." They're in. different weight classes. Oh, okay. Well, no no no no. Okay, yeah, not.

Islam. Who is. >> Omar Omar Nurmagomedov. >> Omar. Yeah, Omar. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Um. Yeah, good good catch. Uh it was supposed to be Omar. Like uh I. was like, "Oh my god, I got to be there. I'm so excited." It ended up. being Cory Sandhagen against Rob Font. because the Omar backed out somehow or. other. >> Probably got injured. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um so. I'm like, "All right, I'm going out. to. So I. I decided that I'm going to go look at. properties in and Tennessee just for a.

weekend. And you just The only. motivation was to go for the fights.". Oh. >> Cuz I love the UFC, man. Oh, that's awesome. >> the UFC. So I went out there. >> weekend coming up. Yeah, right, the BMF. Yeah, that should be exciting. Max. Holloway versus Charles Oliveira. That. is a great fight. >> And dude, the whole card. Uh-huh. >> And all the way down the prelims. Mhm. >> Like get the out of here. Some of. the names on the prelims. Yeah. >> Yeah, so I I I looked at properties. We.

went down like in all around. And when I. got to this one, 44 acres, house with the uh additional. dwelling unit, like apartment on the. garage, like and this trail that goes. through the woods in a perfect 1-mile. loop. They drove us around that trail. I. was like, "I got it." Oh, that's. awesome. I'm like, "This place like They. can get me for whatever cuz I have to. have it. You know, like, they'd like. they they're just going to Well, it's. good for a guy like you, like, that's. probably a great thing to have, too, is.

just get some peace, some I did. When I. When I got out there, I was like, "Oh my. god, I'm not like chewing on my lip. I'm. not like I can I can I can breathe.". Now, the problem is that I'm I'm not. there very much because I'm always. touring and working and chasing. and trying to find something. >> the touring and working is a gift, you. know? You have the ability to do that. It's way better than wishing you could. be touring and working. >> Right. You know? >> that's how That's how it was when. when I started doing comedy. So, I got. sober in 2008, right? Up to that point,

I was I was 33. And up to that point, I never thought I. was going to make it to 30, you. know? Like, I was just like it's just. >> chaos. Yeah, I was like literally just. never even imagined. Like, I wasn't. worried about saving money. I wasn't. worried about Like, I was just like, "Ah, I'm going to be dead." Right. >> And then all of a sudden, I got clean. and sober. And it's like. wow, now I'm ceasing to like actively. kill myself. I'm starting to take care.

of myself. Maybe I'm going to be alive. for decades to come. Right. And. like, holy like. 2008, like, whatever I had saved at that. time was just. >> [laughter]. >> you know, like, and I'm like, how am I. going to eat? If I'm going to be. alive if I'm only like less than halfway. through my life, I've burned every. bridge in my career, and you know, they're telling me that if I want to. like be. you know, clean and sober and have any. kind of a good life, I've got to deflate.

my ego, I've got to practice spiritual. principles. How the am I supposed. to be Steve-O. and with a deflated ego and on a. spiritual path? I didn't know if I could. continue to have any kind of a career as. I knew it. So, now I'm like, how am I. going to eat, you know, like my savings. just got blasted and I start doing. comedy. Going to the like the Laugh Factory like. they'd give you like 20 bucks, you know, like sign here and they'd be like 20. bucks. Mhm. >> And then like uh when the Jackass 3D.

came out, I went on the Howard Stern. Show and I'm like "Howard, I've been in. the comedy club every night. I'm having. a blast." And just by saying that on. Howard Stern, my lawyer called me up. like in the next week or something. He. says "I've got comedy clubs all over the. country calling trying to book you. Like. what's this about?" And they're offering. like all this money. I'm like wait, you. can make what? You can make that much. money like going to a comedy. club for a weekend? Like holy I'm like I got to. figure out how I'm going to eat.

for the next you know, 50 years maybe. So. I just started grinding, dude. >> Yeah, we've talked about this. It's um. you know, I think that anybody who wants. to do comedy should do comedy and. there's a weird thing that happens with. comedy where it's like there's a lot of. gatekeepers. Like "Oh, what is he doing. doing comedy?" Right. Which I think is. gross. But uh yeah, I mean I'm glad you. found something else. But it's just. being yourself, you know? You could. >> For sure. You could still be on a. spiritual path and still do comedy.

>> I figured that out. I've figured that. out completely. And I think that the the. point being that I like that in in 2011. like Jesus, man. Like I'd have been. you know, 52 weeks of the year. Like no. way that I wasn't like. full on engagement for like 45. weeks of that year, you know, like. >> Yeah, and and just by doing it that much. like the repetition, it's like oh, okay. Now like I'm developing a craft, you.

know? >> Yeah, if you care about it. If you care. about it and you get into it, you get. better at it. >> Dude, I can't stop. >> for a guy who like you that's already. famous to start out because you know, some people they're already famous. Like. I went on the road with Charlie Murphy. when he was doing that. And it was like. the ballsiest thing ever. Like Charlie. was famous for being on the Chappelle. Show and then starting out doing comedy. When I went on the road with him, I. think he'd only been doing comedy like 2. years at the time. I'm like, "Man, this. is such a ballsy thing to do." Because.

you're there's so many expectations of. you. A, you're Eddie Murphy's brother, which is nuts. You say you're brother. one of the greatest of all time. And. then on top of that, you're already. famous from one of the funniest comedy. shows of all time, and you're a. beginner. Yeah. Which is wild. You know? Yeah. It's a blessing and a curse. Because you. can sell tickets cuz people know you, they want to see you. But but you're a A. lot of guys they get together with other. people that can help them, you know, formulate an act, maybe help them write, help them piece together, like maybe if.

they're not even writing for you, at. least they can help you consolidate your. thoughts and Right. put together some. like if you're smart, that's the way to. do it. Like hire some people that can. help you. >> I've never been able to have people. write for me. Well, then it's not it's. not necessary. You don't have to, but. it's it's a good idea for like you're a. little bit different than a traditional. stand-up comic though. You do stand-up. comedy, but you also do multimedia stuff. and stunts and silly things. For for people that just like Charlie. was just doing comedy. Right. You know?

I started out doing that. I would do. like a set of stand-up and then I would. have like a set of sort of repeatable. stunts and tricks at the end. Right. This so this is not like Laugh Factory. when you're one of the people on the. lineup. This is when you're doing your. own shows. Yeah. And that's how the tour. began. Oh, that's awesome, man. But yeah, dude, I'm just just. stoked. And. >> You're in a good place. You just got to. get out of your own head. >> Yeah, my head terrorizes me a lot. >> Yeah, you got to get out of your own. head and probably surround yourself more. with people that are also are not in.

their own head. Right. >> You know, because that shit's. contagious. Just like being a loser is. contagious. Like if you're if you're. around people that are losers, like that. can rub off on you. Around people. that sabotage their life all the time, you're with them, like uh, then you're. wrapped up in their and you're not. only not progressing, you're regressing. You cuz you're like constantly with this. guy who's like his life up all. the time. Right. >> Real, you know, some people have to cut. ties. Just try to surround yourself with the. people from your yoga class. Like, go to.

go to a solid yoga class and find solid. people. Like, just. that is one of like be the type of. person that solid people want to be. around, but also. find those people, too. Right. >> And both of those things will benefit. you. Cuz if you're in your own head, you're around other people that are like. worried about their career, too, and. they're in their own head, and they're. freaking out about their comments, and. you're freaking out about your comments, like, jeez. Right. >> Stop. This is not good for anybody. Yeah.

Yeah. And it's it's helpful, too, to. look at the facts, you know, like, whatever I've been through, whatever, like, uh But even that is thinking about. yourself too much. Think about your. stuff. Think about your what you're. doing. Don't think about like, I have. accomplished so much and this is why I. don't have to worry, like, eh. That don't you don't get any There's no. gas in that. There's. >> I don't know if that's what I meant, but. like, what I've been going through over. the last few weeks I was telling you. about. Yeah. Didn't change the fact that. like, our Jackass movies full.

bore, full force, like, >> There you go. Doesn't change the fact. you have a dick on your forehead. >> [laughter]. >> It doesn't change that. Yeah, like, no. nobody has nobody who matters to me has. voiced any concern about any of it. >> That's all that matters, then. It's the. people that are close to you that really. matter. It's just like, >> Yeah. you're just a little too in your. own head, bro. I hope this helped. I it. you know, it really did. >> [laughter]. >> It really. >> good dude, man. You shouldn't be. worried. >> I I care. I know you do, but it's the.

reason why you care is because you're a. good dude. But your brain can hijack. you. Yeah. >> You know, your thoughts can run your. thoughts can run away with you. I mean, we've all had it happen before. Right. >> You get a thought, it runs away with. you, and then you got to bring it back, and but you got to get better at. corralling that You know, it's. like being a dog trainer. You can't have. your dog all over your house. and chewing up your furniture. You're. like, "Hey, hey! Stop!" Right. >> Doesn't mean [laughter] you don't love. your dog. It's like you don't want him.

on your couch. Like tell him. not to do that. Be a good dog trainer. Be a good Stevo trainer. Like don't let. Stevo's brain run away from him and piss. on the TV. That's. >> [laughter]. >> crazy. You know what I mean? Same kind of thing. You got to train yourself. Yeah. Yeah. >> I had I think that that's perfectly. fair, man, and I'm super grateful for. you, brother. I'm [laughter] grateful for you, too. Like I said, I just hate seeing you in. your own head, cuz you're a great guy. You're fun to be around. You're always. very thoughtful and very friendly and.

don't worry about it, man. It's going to. be all right. Well, thank you, dude. >> And then you're going to come back as a. butterfly or some. >> [laughter]. >> Right. Maybe you come back as a World. War II pilot. Maybe you go back in time. That'd be wild. You have memories of the. future. You're like, I've never heard. about that. >> Yeah, it's cuz it's if reincarnation is. if time's not linear. If time exists all at once, like maybe. reincarnation is not linear, either. Maybe there's people that die and then. they have messages from the future. You know? I mean, that's all right.

>> Imagine you're in the trenches of World. War I. You're like, "Are you. kidding me? >> [laughter]. >> I used to have an iPhone. I had a watch. that was my dad was calling me on it. >> Right. This is so stupid. Now I'm worried about. getting eaten by wolves in this. trench." Right. I mean, the the idea of. uh. quantum physics, quantum mechanics. >> Entanglement, yeah. all possible realities all exist Yeah. >> all in one moment. Allegedly. Yeah. I. don't understand it. I've tried. Right.

How's Marshall? >> He's great. He's great. >> is Marshall now? He's nine. Wow. Yeah. I. It makes me sad that I worry that he's. only going to live for a few more years. Right. >> That's what's spooky. Goldens, when they. eat well and they're well-fed, they. could live like 15, 16 years. I just got. to take care of them. I just like it's. just like thinking about him not being. around. It's like it's really hard. Like. we were playing today. You know, I'd. take him in the yard, throw the ball. with him, and we're hanging out and. cuddling, and I just can't imagine a. life where that dog's not around, you.

know? Like he's. he's just a big love sponge. Yeah. You. know, he loves everybody. Everybody that. comes over the house, the first thing he. does, he runs up to you, he wags his. tail, he rubs up against you, and then. he lies down cuz he knows you want to. pet his belly. He's like, "Come on, you. know you want to pet me.". >> [laughter]. >> He's just so used to being touched by. everybody. >> Right. Like that's his existence is just. love. I was in Peru in 2017. with Chuck Liddell. We were doing this.

>> found that dog? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That. I still have Wendy. That's awesome. That's awesome. >> at this point like 11. Wow. And [snorts] she's slowing down. >> Yeah. It's like dogs, it's so sad. They. don't live long enough. I know. >> You know? But dude, since Wendy's now. retired, living on my ranch in Tennessee. >> Well, that's cool. >> And she has become the gnarliest country. girl. Like she'll just go out on the on the. property and come back with like a.

gnarly deer leg. That she found in the woods. >> sits and she just sits there. >> That's normal. That's dog behavior. That's. >> this ranch cat that I then pretty sure. like he goes out there and like hunts. squirrels or whatever. >> probably kills everything. Probably. kills a lot of birds. >> and then he brings them to Wendy. Cuz I. was trying to figure out why is Wendy. getting so fat? I'm like tell my. ranch hand, I'm like dude we got to like. not feed Wendy so much. She's like kind. of getting fat. She's like dude.

I've been like feeding her less but she. just seems to still be getting. fat. And we find her like she cruises up. with like just some big ass rodent. And I [clears throat] and. >> Then she's going to kiss you with rancid. breath. She's crunching it [snorts] just I. watched her house a whole. squirrel to the face. And she just. swallowed the whole thing. And I know that [snorts] she's her old. fat ass wasn't fast enough to catch a. squirrel. The only way is it's got to be. the cats killing it and giving it to.

her. >> the squirrel and it's like hey friend, [laughter]. I got something for you cuz cats just. want to kill. Yeah. >> They kill so much man. Wild If you let a. cat go wild, you're basically you want. to do harm, let a cat go loose. That. that'll kill thousands and thousands of. things. I saw a cat the other day on a. ranch. It was really wild. I I turned a. corner and I saw it right as this cat. pounced. So this cat was in the grass. and it was doing that thing where their. back goes up and their butt starts. wiggling and just flew through the air.

and landed. I'm like how happy is this. cat living out here? Like just. being able to jack all these poor little. unsuspecting [laughter] animals all day. long. That's what they want to do man. The guy bought bought the property from, he said you will never see a. mouse, a rat. He's like this cat. cuz we inherited the cat Rocky. >> Oh that's cool. >> He's like this cat takes his job. seriously. >> That's way better than having mice. around, that's for sure. But they they. are mass murderers. Yeah. Do you know.

that like house cats, wild house cats, feral cats kill billions of mammals. every year just in America? Billions. Feral house cats? Wild cats. >> Right right right right. >> Cats that get left outside. >> Regular old cats. >> Regular cats, not like cougars. And they. killed billions of Billions of birds and. mammals. B I, billions. Billions. They are so good at it. They. love to do it. I used to have this like. fluffy She was like I forgot what.

they're called. The kind of cat she was, but she was just a ball fluff. Like she. would just purr when you pat her and. like That little was a murderer. They let her outside she'd have a bird. I'm like this is crazy. She'd jump up. and snag a bird out of the air. I'm like. They they would sit She would sit by the. window and she would see a squirrel. outside and her teeth would start. chattering. >> [laughter]. >> Like she just couldn't wait to bite it. It would make these weird noises staring. at birds and squirrels. Like it's just.

in them, man. Yeah. They're little. killing machines. Yeah. I got uh. good I got to I'm going to have. so many animals. >> That's awesome. >> it's pigs and goats and cats and dogs. >> That's dope, dude. That's That sounds. like a great life. It's And a great. balance to the chaos that you have when. you were younger. And also great balance. to touring, right? Right. Touring in all. these cities, you come back home and. tweet tweet tweet tweet. >> [sighs]. >> Oh dear, I love it so much, man. And. it's. I'm all set up to official 501c3.

nonprofit animal sanctuary. Oh, so you. could take in animals. Like if someone. has a dog that's been abandoned or a. goat that they can't take care of. anymore. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. That. sounds really cool, man. >> Radical Ranch. Huh. >> Yeah. And And the website's radicalranch.org. >> Oh, you have a website? >> Just went live like last month. Oh, cool. >> Like a month like a. in January when it went live. So yeah,

like people can donate or. whatever. See all the animals on there. It's pretty It's pretty rad. >> That's dope, brother. There it is. >> Yeah, there it is. >> Radical Ranch. >> There's Wendy. >> Aw, look at all these little animals. having a good time. Believe it or not, that's Photoshop. Is [laughter] it? You're not getting all. those animals in one That's Photoshop? Yeah. Oh, okay. That's deceptive. How. dare you? Well, I mean, I wanted. >> they're You're having a party, just like. a Disney movie. I wanted to have all the. animals in one [laughter] shot, and uh. Yeah. >> That's actually makes sense. Otherwise,

I was like, why isn't that dog chase. those goats? And why [laughter] is that. goat dealing with the dog being right. there? Right. All right, brother. Well, appreciate you very much. Um. >> Dude, likewise. >> It's always good to talk to you. Yeah. I. I like I. try to like be pretty sparing if I'm. going to hit you up. I try to make sure. that I that it it Don't worry about it, man. Just Just be you. Don't worry about. it. >> Yeah. Well, dude. It's all going to be. fine. I I appreciate you so much. This. is This is important. >> [laughter]. >> My pleasure. All right. Uh bye, everybody.

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