Joe Rogan Experience #2445 - Bert Kreischer

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went to Ways Dwell the other day and I. did the red light bed every day. Every. day until I Googled how much it cost. That thing's [ __ ] expensive. >> It's expensive. The real one. But. Whitney got one that's not that. expensive and it's fixed her eyes. >> She got one that she sits in front of. every day for like 20 minutes or. something like that. >> I love that. >> Oh, dude. It's amazing. But the big. ones, the beds, they help your your. whole body recover. They're like, we. could let's let's put it put that into. perplexity and say what is the benefits. of powerful red light therapy?

I [ __ ] I use AI so much now. I was in. the beginning I was resisting it so. much. Then Perplexity came on as a. sponsor and now instead of searching. things online, I just ask the phone. I. just pull up the the app and ask it a. question. I don't have to type anything. and then it gives me an answer and then. I could say well what's the benefits of. it and then it'll list out the benefits. and then I'll say what are the cons and. it'll list out the cons like is there. you know there there any people that. disagree with complexity.

>> Yeah. >> So I got I got one my questions are. always like they're always more like. about me. So I [laughter] look. >> they're they're very. >> Why do you look yourself up? >> No, no, not about No, I don't look. myself up. It's about like No, my my. health or my experience in life. So like. So like I was like I was the other day I. was in bed. I was like, "All right, >> I think my generation.

had the greatest run.". >> Like out of out of all the generations. around, my generation Gen X had the. greatest run. We got great childhoods, right? >> Right. >> We got to experience cell phones. We got. to be impressed by the cell phone, >> right? >> We uh we had 9/11, which wasn't great, but was a time of the country healed, right? Everyone wants a big tragedy like. the JFK shooting. You want that moment. where you walk by a bar and they're. like, "What what are you doing?" Like, "You haven't heard." We got one of. those. >> We had the pandemic, which is insane, right? >> We had our music probably better. We had.

rock. We had I mean, just the all the. internet took off. So, we got to. experience that. I think my generation. Gen X has yours too, right? >> Right. Yeah, I'm. >> so I asked that to chat GBT and it and I. was wrong. >> What do you mean? >> The greatest generation is actually. labeled the greatest generation. It's my. grandmother, your grandmother. They. experienced horse and buggy. They then went they saw cars. They saw. television. All within the time they had. horse and buggy, they saw people land on. the moon.

>> I mean, all that [ __ ] Telephones. [laughter]. who got [ __ ] with the baby boomers. They were just old enough to not. understand cell phones. Like they got. [ __ ] Millennials got [ __ ]. Millennials got real [ __ ]. >> Yeah. I don't know about the greatest. generation. I think I think you're. correct. I think the passage of the. internet, like the internet going. through our lives and and cell phones, like I experienced VHS tapes first. Yeah. >> Then I exper answering machines, that. was a big one. Caller ID, you know who's.

calling you. You could just duck people. That was crazy. >> I remember when caller ID showed up. Then I remember Star 69 showed up where. you could block your caller ID. >> Star 69 was good because you could call. people back that were pranking you. >> Yeah. >> Like, "Hey, motherfucker." They're like, "What? What's going on, >> dude?" We got prank calls. My kid my my. kids didn't never got prank calls. Like, they never understood what a prank call. was. >> The Jerky Boys. >> Jerky Boys were [ __ ] amazing, >> dude. >> Those guys were so funny. So, those.

recordings were so funny. You know who. did a great [ __ ] prank call vid uh. recording? Greg Fitz Simmons. >> Really? >> Oh my god, it's hilarious. He did this. one where he called a rental car place. and he said that it's the car was on. fire because they they went to the gas. station and they filled up pots and pans. with gas and they put it in the back. seat and [ __ ] Bobby smoking and now. the car's on fire. Like you got to hear. this guy freaking out. What do you mean. the car's on fire? It's you can't do.

that anymore, >> dude. Greg, you know when people go. like, "Uh, what kind of music you listen. to?" And you talk to a real musician. like you talk to the Black Keys, right? And then you go like, "What do you guys. listen to?" And they're like, "Have you. heard of the Velvet Thud or something?". >> Right. Right. They got some obscure and. they're like, "That's what you need to. listen to." When people say, "I listen. to Sunday Papers. That's Fitz Simmons. and Gibbons podcast." I go, "You're real. comedy fans. Those are the two funniest. human beings alive ever." Greg Fitz. Simmons. When I got ready for Lucky, I.

brought him on the road with me. I was. like, "Dude, I trust you. Just tell me. where I'm sloppy. Tell me where I'm. lazy. Tell me where I'm leaving jokes.". And that first night he was like, "You. got a minute." And he went through my. whole hour. He's like, "I think you're. leaving this on the table." Dude, those. [ __ ] are the funniest dudes. alive. >> Yeah. Greg's awesome. We started out. together. We We started like one week. apart from each other. >> for real. >> Yeah. Literally, we went on the road. God, in the early days, Greg and I. traveled everywhere. We We did open mic.

We would drive to Rhode Island, do open. mics together. He was a great example of the first dude. I ever saw talking about his family on. stage and it wasn't nerdy. >> Right. Right. Right. >> Him and his son ran a train on his wife. >> What? >> It was a great joke. He was like, "I had. my first threesome." Uh, it was with my. son, so it's a little awkward. I'm. [ __ ] Greg's joke up. He goes, "My son. was breastfeeding. I was getting her. from behind. [laughter]. We had to high five in the middle." But. I remember hearing that as a can. remember when remember being a dad as a.

comic was like off limits. >> Right. Right. And I saw that and I just. had Georgia. The second person I saw, the first person is Greg. The second. person I saw and I I mean I'm talking. just had Georgia was Louis [ __ ] CK. I. went and worked the road with him and he. was doing all the material for that. first special that popped for him and he. was talking about his kids and he was. just like, "My daughter's a cunt.". [laughter]. And he goes, "I know you're not supposed. to say that, but what else do you say to. someone who won't put their shoes on? They're a [ __ ] [laughter] We're trying. to leave the house and they won't put.

their shoes. Imagine if you wouldn't. leave." And it was just like and it was. like I'm sitting there, you know, lost. in like what I thought was standup was. like some imitation of Dne, you know, and I'm watching Louis going like this. is something totally different. >> Yeah, those guys. Best prank call I've. ever heard. Sidebar, Brendan Walsh. >> Brennan Walsh is a funny [ __ ]. >> Brendon Wall, >> what's he up to? >> I don't know. I think he does like like. a like he's always been like more more. art comedy, you know, like more like.

performance. He does these podcasts. where he puts a neck brace on and a wig. and giant glasses and he plays a. character. He's a funny dude, man. >> Do you remember? >> He's an Austin guy. >> He was an Austin guy. He was He was. >> I remember he Do you remember he was on. your podcast? He I remember him telling. the story and I I think about this all. the time. A circus city had closed by. his house and so and he lives in Silver. Lake. Do you remember? >> That's right. He made a prank we told. everybody was turning into a Whole Foods. [laughter]. and he got everybody so excited. Oh,

Whole Foods is going to be a Silver. Lake. >> He just did it for himself [laughter] so. that he could be in the coffee shop and. hear people talking about Whole Foods. >> He did a prank call. I think Stan Hope. sent it to me. He was like, "This is the. best prank call ever." And it's Brendan. calling a sec, like a a phone sex. And. you know, they always try to keep you on. the line, right? >> So he's like, "Hey, what are you. wearing?" She was like, "Nothing. What. are you wearing?" He's like, "Nothing.". And then you hear like a a dog barking. in the back. And she goes, "Is that is.

that your dog?" He's like, "Yeah, yeah. Ignore him. Ignore him." And then the. dog barks a little longer. And he's. like, "Tell me what what are you. touching yourself?" And then you hear a. baby crying in the back. And he's like, she's like, "Is that your baby?" And. he's like, "No, it's fine. It's fine. It's a different room. It's I'm totally. fine." And then you hear a woman come in. and go, "Are you on the [ __ ] phone. sex again?" And he's like, "Hey, leave. me alone." And she's like, "Is there do. you need one to do this later?" He's. like, "Don't worry about it." And then. you hear a marching band come in playing. alua. [laughter] And he's just trying to hold. her on the line. Dude, I was cry. That.

is like like you know, not to like get. too meta about it, but comedy has become. so and I'm a part of this of so. self-promotional and put it on. I got I. got to think it's a new show. When you. see someone like Brendan or like or like. Greg and Mike who ju who just do it for. the pure just to make themselves giggle. >> Yeah. >> It's so beautiful. Gillis is like that. >> Yeah. Gillis is Gillis. I always think. he's just a like a like a my my favorite. Shane Gillis story to that I will for.

the until I die. We're doing uh we're. doing Fully Loaded the first year and. it's Shane's on everyone. Mark's on. everyone. Nikki's on everyone. It's like. it's stop. It's the best year we. probably did it. No offense. And Shane. go sees my daughter George who's being a. PA with her friend Daisy. And it's the. very last night and Shane walks up and. he's like, "You guys sneaking beers?". And they're like, "No." He goes, "Oh, come on. I'm not gonna rat you out." And. they're like, "No, we're not." He's. like, "Come on. You're 18 years old. You're on tour. It's our last night. You.

guys are sneaking beers." And they're. like, "We're not sneaking beers." He. goes, "I can smell the beer on you." And. they're like, "We we've been sneak. sneaking beers." And he goes, "Okay.". And he just sits down right next to me. He goes, "George is sneaking beers.". [laughter]. >> Did you know she was sneaking beers? >> No. I had no idea. Shane just [ __ ]. ratted her out. She's your daughter. >> Yeah. >> You're getting hammered every night. You're not going to notice. Like dad's. drunk. [laughter]. >> He won't even know if we're drunk. >> Oh, she would. Yeah. She It's funny. because I go to like her college and.

other dads, you know, party and then and. like she's like she doesn't She's always. like. kind of low-key about it. Like the dads. will like bite beer cans and kill them. and shotgun beers. >> What? >> I know. That's what dads do. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Which dads? I don't mean any of these. dads. >> You're in a different school zone. >> The uh that's what dads do. And and I'm. always like, you know, this is what I do. for a living. Like I can [ __ ] murder. these guys. She's like, "Dad, I'm like, oh, you like him crushing a beer and.

shotgunning it." [ __ ] I can micro. dose. What are we talking about? [laughter]. What were you telling about? Um. >> Jamie, >> you were tell I'm sorry. Right before we. get started, you were telling me about. something. >> SC the REM sleep or lucid dreaming. [snorts] sleep communication. I got to. figure out how where I put it. >> I sent a DM to someone about it. I think. >> so. I got to tell you before we find. So. Eddie Bravo calls me the other day and. he goes, "Did Burke Chryser lose.

everything and then get it back?" I go, "What?" And he goes, "Yeah, it was so. confusing." He was on Shannon Sharp show. and Shannon says says to Bert, "What was. it like? You lost everything." and then. you had to build it back. And he goes, "It seemed like it wasn't true." I go, "It's not true." And I go, "Did Burke go. along with it?" He goes, "Yeah." I go, "WHAT?". And I couldn't wait to talk TO YOU ABOUT. IT CUZ I COULD totally picture someone. saying to you some story that totally.

never happened and you not wanting to be. confrontational, so you just go along. with it. Is that what happened? >> 100%. [laughter]. >> 100%. >> [ __ ] show. How did you not say that. never happened? [laughter]. >> He just caught me off guard. >> HE CAUGHT YOU OFF GUARD. >> I WAS LIKE, >> did did at any point in time you say I. should probably say this never happened. No. >> I was like he was like you lost. everything in my head. I was like I did. He was [laughter] like he was like BUT. YOU MADE IT ALL BACK. AND I GO I DID. >> WHERE IS THIS COMING FROM? >> I HAVE NO IDEA. [laughter] HE SAID IT.

And I just was like uh-huh. Uh-huh. >> Why did you say that? >> I don't know. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT I. SAID AFTER. He's like how did you do it? And I JUST WAS LIKE, MAN, I JUST LIKE I. don't know, Shannon. I just focused and. really strugg like I have no [ __ ]. clue. I should not be allowed to talk on. microphones. I literally was like, I. don't know what I said even after it to. be honest with you. But I was like, I. guess he has it in his notes. So I was. like, yeah. >> So someone must have googled Bur. Crusher. It probably some Reddit thread.

Bird Crusher lost everything, >> I guess. And like you know the stories. about you online are are more prevalent. than the true ones. So you just go I. guess that's what he heard. >> You just went with it. >> I don't know. I don't. >> That's so weird to do. >> I was I had no I I was like in my head I. was like trying to think maybe he was. talking about like you know I had. development deals when I got into the. business. >> Yeah you didn't lose them. They gave you. money. Just never became a show. Oh, but. then no, but I'm saying like maybe I was. in my head I was like maybe he's. thinking that like you know I had a lot.

of development deals early and then I. didn't for a few years and I worked the. road and maybe that's what he was saying. and then I made I'm back. I don't know. I was like. >> but even when you worked the road, you. worked the road then you had the Travel. Channel show. There was no period where. it made sense. >> By the way, that is the least of my fist. to fry on that [ __ ] show. I got in so. much trouble that that show every clip. you do goes viral. every I just am like. I I I was as when I got done that I. haven't felt this in a long time. I was. like I was like wow. I was like I think.

I'm going to get a lot of texts when. this airs. >> Well, it seems like he wants that, right? He's got a [clears throat] lot of. people on the show that talk a lot of. [ __ ] A lot of people like Cat Williams. famously was that that episode was. [ __ ] amazing. >> We talked about that. >> He just went in on everybody including. me. That's why I got him on the podcast. He said, "Joe Rogan want to have me on.". >> Has the same funny [ __ ]. >> Unfunny. Yeah. Same seven unfunny. [ __ ]. I was like, "Dude, I love Cat Williams. What are you talking about?". >> He's the best. >> I'm like, I never met him.

>> Yeah. >> I had never met him before. It's like it. wasn't that I wouldn't have him on. It's. like I didn't even know he wanted to. come on. I would have had him on. >> That interview was with him was epic. >> Amazing. And accurate. The thing about. his [ __ ] talking is it's not he's not. lying. >> No. >> No. It's it's you know it's. when I got out I was like it's I don't I. don't mean this with disrespect but it's. less Shannon I think more as producers. because he's got cards. So I think the. producers are like what what clip's.

going to pop? I think they go online, >> right? They try to find controversial. subjects. >> Like he brought up I told you he brought. up one. He's like, "Bert, you think. Kevin Hart's just lucky?" And I was. like, "Oh.". >> I was like, "I said that [ __ ] 12. years ago." And it was just it was all. it was. And I know I'm I'm even But it. was this is what it was, Joe, is like at. a time when I we none of us were making. money. Not you, but like the younger. compan. knows I love him, but Kevin's like, "I'm.

the hardest working [ __ ] I'm. the hardest working. And in my head, I. was like, we're all working hard. Like, but a lot of people, you know, were. just, you know, waiting for a moment to. to to get in front of people. And then I. was like, and then I had an agent very. casually, like not mine, but at a thing. goes, you know, Kevin should mention how. lucky he got. I was like, what do you. mean? He's like, you know about fool's. gold, right? I was like, no. He's like, "Well, that's the beef between Kevin and. Cat is Cat packed a gun in his luggage. to go shoot fool's gold and he got. detained and they were in production and.

they're like, "We need we need someone. small and black to fit these clothes. We. already got clothes for him." Yeah. And. he's like, "Get Kevin Hart." And that. was the story I wanted Kevin to tell. because that as a comic, you can kind of. put your head around that. And I've and. and by the way, I did not do a good job. of explaining it on Shannon's show. because it's like, you know, I'm a. [ __ ] talk out of my ass, but like. every comic has had these like moments. that skyrocket them, right? These. moments that pop and and I went through.

it and I think you'll understand it now, but for me it was the machine story. going viral. For for Bill Burr, it's the. Philly rant with Bill. That Philly rant. just put him in the next level. Jim. Jeff, he gets punched in the head at the. comedy seller or comedy store in London. His manager happens to be a guy that. knows the internet, Brett Vincent, posted on MySpace, goes viral. Every. comic that pops always has that. Tom, as. I was telling this to Tom, he goes, "Yeah, it was me Netflix." He was like, "Tom got on Netflix." I mean, I didn't. even realize this. Tom said it to me. He.

got on Netflix when there were two. comics on Netflix. Bill Burr and Tom Seagura. Bill puts his. special out there like, "Did you like. Bill Burr? You might like Tom Sigura.". And Tom's like, "If Comedy Central had. bought my hour, I would have been. fucked." But instead, I sold it to this. small streamer, Netflix, and the only. other one they had was Bill Burr. And. so, >> as comics, I think sometimes, and you. know how much I believe in luck, it's so. e it's easier to hear about someone's. luck where you go, "Oh, that is crazy.

that happen stance." I mean, we've said. it about you and I know you you probably. disagree maybe to a certain extent, but. you're I thought I think the greatest. thing that ever happened to you was that. getting kicked out of the comedy store. that that period of time where you had. to reeval evaluate yourself and you. created this what you have and you re I. mean you would speak to it better than I. could, but I think as comics we look at. you reinventing yourself and re. imagining yourself and and making it. your own [ __ ] entity and creating.

this podcast which is changed all of our. lives that moment and it must have been. tough to lose your agent get kicked out. of the comedy store and have to figure. things out that we all got be everyone. got behind you everyone was like that's. my guy I mean I'm curious what your. feelings about that are okay if your New. Year's resolution was change everything. and be a new person good [snorts] luck. so instead of pretending you're going to. meal prep kale forever or do morning. cold plunges here's one actually realist.

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or visit the link in the description to. get started. I mean that certainly had. an impact. You know, it was also the. Mensia video where people could clearly. see that I was right. >> Yes. >> And then we were all a victim. Like we. were all hiding at the store. Like when. he would go on stage or he wouldn't be. in the back of the room if you were on. stage, they would flash the light to let. you know that he was in the room. Mhm. >> You know how crazy that is that there's. a guy around that steals so much that. they have to flash a light whenever a.

comic's on stage and then comics would. just start doing crowd work. >> Yeah, that's insane to me. >> It was crazy. So all the comics knew. that what I was saying was the truth and. it was proved by like the consequences. of someone who was already successful, right? So I was already on Fear Factor. at the time. I was already a known. person and I lost my agent and I got. kicked out of the store. Like. >> that video that video was I akin to the. Philly rant Jim Jeff getting p that.

viral moment for you which. >> it was also how well Red Band put it. together too cuz he's such a good. editor. He's so brilliant. It was music. He went back in time. He like you know. like he spent a lot of time working on. that. It was a work of art. But it was, you know, it was the first time that. someone was held accountable because, you know, we don't have to name names, but we all know people who snuck through. and still kind of have careers, although. greatly diminished impact because like.

when they go on stage now, people are. excited to see them cuz they're famous. and then that immediately goes away when. you realize there's nothing there. They. have no material because they have to. write for themselves now. >> Yeah. You see a giant drop off. If you. see the early specials with like great. jokes and really funny and then you see. like what is this nonsense towards the. end, it's just like weird [ __ ] like. nonsensical rants on thing. It's bizarre. to watch. But that's what happens when.

you get exposed and you have to do your. own [ __ ] And there's a few of those. guys floating around out there. >> Oh yeah. Oh yeah. It's crazy because the. one thing. >> cigar. >> uh I can't smoke cigars. >> Really? What happened? >> Blood clot. Oh, that's right. >> Yeah, the I'm not supposed to smoke. cigars. I mean, I could text my. cardiologist and see what he says. >> I heard cigars are good for you. I heard. they gave them to to Teddy Roosevelt. >> Yeah, look what happened to him. >> You know, I could have one cigar. If. you're going to smoke one in here, I. mean, dog, come on, son.

>> Just do it like old school Rogan where I. anytime I smoked weed, you had to pull. the camera away from me [laughter]. >> because you're on a travel channel. Uh yeah, I mean we all have a moment. where things but it's like an. accumulation of those moments, right? >> It's it's it's you know what it is. It's. like uh you get that moment like I'll. use Burr as an example because you know. only because I've talked to him about. this specifically, but like he he didn't.

love the Philly rant because right away. everyone thought, "Oh, that's his thing. We're going to we're going to heckle him. and he'll go lose his shit." So he. didn't love it. But the thing is that. that goes viral and then you Google that. person, you're like, "Who is this?" And. then you see a body of work that's. undeniable and you're like, "Oh, Bill. Burr is my guy." You know, uh, for for. for Shane, I mean, in my opinion, it's. it's that YouTube special he did and. then you see Gillian Keeves, you see all. his sketches. >> It was also him getting kicked off of.

SNL. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Him getting kicked off SNL was huge. Yeah. It. >> was the best thing that ever happened to. him. if he was on SNL, he would have got. buried on that show like a lot of. people. [clears throat]. But instead, he gets kicked [snorts]. off. A bunch of people are mad at him. and then they're like, "Well, what did. he actually say?" And then people start. looking into it and they go, "Oh, he was. just [ __ ] around. He was pretending. to be a racist guy in Chinatown.". >> Yeah, >> that was the bit. Like he was just they. were just talking [ __ ] on a podcast and. then he releases that special and you. go, "Oh, he's actually a great comic.".

>> Dude, his Special Olympics. [clears throat] joke. >> He's got so many good jokes. his special. Olympia jokes. We were in the bus one. time and uh my cousin Andrew goes, "Has. anyone know Shane Gillis?" And I I've. known Shane for a while. I've I have. hysterical emails that he sent me. >> back when he was like just like open mic. or whatever. >> like going like, "Hey man, I feel like. we connected. They're the greatest. Joe, >> he if he knew that I was he'd be she'd. face him and go, hey, can I read your.

emails on on Joe?" He'd [ __ ] lose his. [ __ ] They're so [ __ ] hysterical, Joe. I'll send them to you. And so, uh, I go, "Yeah, I love Shane. I love. Shane." The day I met him, he goes, "Uh," he's like, "Yeah, I'm supposed to. go out with my girlfriend tonight." And. I was like, "But, uh, it was like 10 in. the morning. We were drinking, uh, fireball." And he was like, "Uh, >> 10 in the morning.". >> Yeah. We were doing a I used to do call. sick to work shows where we go to the. >> fireball at 10:00 a.m. >> He's like, that's what he said. He I'm. supposed to go my girlfriend. I said, "What's your girlfriend's name?" He. goes, "Big tuna." And I went, "Big. tuna?" He goes, "She's a big girl." And. I was like, "Yeah, I figured for the.

name, Shane." And then I [ __ ] I' that. from that day on, but that Special. Olympic jokes when he we listened to it. in the bus, he's like, "What do you. think? Should we race them?" I mean, it. we were crying [ __ ] laughing. That's. like one of my favorite jokes I've. [ __ ] ever. >> He's got a lot of great bits. But. [clears throat] that special he did at. the creek in the cave that was like. people got to see. They're like, "Oh, okay. Well, this is what he does. He he. he touches on that third wire.". >> Yeah. >> You know, the third rail, rather. And. it's like, you know, it's funny. It's.

really funny. And they were trying to. label him as this horrible racist that. Saturday Night Live hired. [snorts] But, you know, >> anything but from my opinion. But. >> that but that happens, man. You You're. going to, you know, you're going to get. attacked. There's always something. There's always something that a comic. says where someone's going to get mad. Especially in this day and age. People. are just looking for things to get mad. But almost always it helps them. If. they're a good comic, almost always like. Tony Hinchcliffe, it blew him up. Like.

almost always when something happens, you get attacked. People start looking. at you go, "Actually, this guy's really. funny." And then they become a fan. >> Yeah. >> Cuz you're just getting so many more. eyeballs. The people that are looking to. hate you, they're going to hate you no. matter what. But there's going to be a. bunch of people that are all like, "What's going on?" And then they look. into it. I mean, that happened to me. during co I gained 2 million followers. in like a month. two million followers. on on Spotify in a month when they were. trying to pull me off of Spotify. When. all like all these uh music artists were.

calling me a vaccine denier and removing. their podcast or removing their music. like when uh Neil Young and was it Jonie. Mitchell? Yeah, Jonie Mitchell they they. publicly removed their their music from. Spotify because of my podcast. back. Yeah. I don't know if Jonie. Mitchell is, but yeah, Neil Young is I. don't even think Neil Young actually. owned his music, which was funny. I. think it was just like a ploy. I mean, it's like I think he probably believed a.

lot of things he was saying. He was just. misinformed. He just didn't understand. that I was actually talking to people. that were legitimate scientists that. turned out they were right. Now, now we. know. >> Yeah. But back then it was like there. was this hysteria about it and a lot of. people that were very skeptical started. tuning in and then the whole [ __ ] CNN. thing when they turned me green like all. that [ __ ] it just that helped. >> I don't know if I could have like I'm. not good that people always go you know. if they're talking about you it's good.

all press is good press and I but. anytime anything negative comes out. about me it [ __ ] devastates me. I. don't like I could not have gone through. what you went through. You just don't I. just don't read it. If you don't read. like how do you because like you come up. in my news feed all the time. >> and and like and I I'm I'm such a. [ __ ] idiot that if I'm scrolling. through Google News and I see my name, I. go, "Oh, what's that?" And then I'm. like, "God damn it. >> You can't do that.". >> Last time I did this show, greatest. experience, Gray Hang, Lucky streaming.

number one on Netflix. I'm so [ __ ]. happy. I'm in my bed going things are. going good for the big guy. hit on. Google News and it's like picture of me. and you. I was like Burke Chryser Joe. Rogan and they're like Burke Chryser. ruins the Joe Rogan podcast. I'm like. [ __ ] [snorts]. It was an MMA [ __ ] journalist and I. was like wait why god damn it. I was. like and then and then you see it and. you're like well it can't be that bad. I'm going to read it and they're like. [snorts]. oh my god. But then my daughter Georgia. said something very profound to me. She.

was like why would you allow that? I'm. sure that guy will write that same. article after this episode. She goes, "I'm sure he will." I think the guy also. has a [ __ ] football feed. He said, "I. ruined the any anytime I do something, there's someone that says, "Brush, you. ruined it." And I'm the only one that. reads it. And my daughter Georgia goes. literally looked at me and goes, "Did. you have fun with Joe?" I went, "Yeah, I. had a blast. I love being around Joe.". She was like, "Then [ __ ] it." She goes, "Your experience is the one that matters. the most." She goes, "What? Why would. you allow someone to dictate your memory.

of an event?" And I was like, "Oh, who. the [ __ ] raised you?" I was like, "I. don't know.". >> Well, you were on the road. She probably. raised herself. [laughter]. >> That's why she's so wise. She had to. form her own opinions. >> She didn't read books. >> Yeah. She had to actually form her own. opinions and think about things. rationally. Having a father like you. Yeah. You can't you can't pay attention. because the the vast majority of people. lived miserable lives. That's the Rose. quote. Mo most men live lives of quiet. desperation. There's a lot of people out. there that are very, very sad, very.

unhappy, and looking to make something. negative. They're always looking to be a. critic, which is fine. You know, that's their. prerogative, but it's not. You don't. have to read it. >> Well, it's I I'm at the place now like I. took Google News, I took all Google and. everything off my phone because I the. series premiered and I didn't want to. get good or bad. I was like, >> "Good.". >> Because you can't you can't quantify the. good. >> Like, uh, like if you're gonna if you're. gonna listen to the good, you got to. listen to the bad.

>> And I was like, "Well, I don't want to. hear the bad." So, I just want to hear. the good. And then, uh, and then we were. Jamie and I were talking about this. outside, but like you have a social. media team who's posting like like like. your your your claps. Like they're. posting like the nice articles. And I'm. like, don't even post that because like. I don't even like just stay out of it. Just let if people like it, let them. like it. >> [clears throat]. >> Let people have their own opinions. That's the best move. I don't have. anybody that does that. >> I don't have any of that. >> Do you post all your own stuff on. Instagram? >> On Instagram, if I post it, it's from. me.

>> Really? >> Yeah. Always. Yeah. And then there's the. Joe Rogan Experience page that the staff. does, but that is just a clip from the. podcast. They take an interesting clip. where someone says something, it's put. up with no context. It just says, you. know, episode blah blah blah. That's it. I try to do it as like natural and. neutral. If you like it, you don't like. it. If you don't like it, don't listen. to the next one. It's okay. >> So, wait, what what is your what is the. impetus for you to post something like. like when at what point do you decide to.

share your life? >> Well, I just feel like if there's. something I think someone will think is. interesting or something that I would. like to see, if someone puts it on their. feed, I'll put it in there every night. But I don't post that much because I. don't read that much. I stay off. >> I don't think it's good for you. I think. it's not only do I not think it's good. for you, I think it's genuinely bad for. you. >> And uh it gets in the way of all the. other stuff that I like to do. Um you. know, I'm busy, man. I'm busy. Um. there's a lot of interesting [ __ ] to pay. attention to in the world. I'm not one.

of those things. I don't like paying. attention to me, you know, and reading. me or and I don't want to like go online. and see too many car crashes and people. getting shot and animal attacks. I get. Tommy and I have the worst [ __ ] text. message chain. he him and I all day. whenever he finds something like. unbelievably horrific, some guy getting. run over by a truck, he'll just send it. to me and then I'll send it to him and. we're always trying to one up each. other. So when I find something. absolutely horrible, someone says me. something absolutely horrible, I send it. to him and then we just that's like my.

main source of like trauma online is my. Tom Seagora text message chain. But other than that, I pretty much stay. off. I don't think it's good for you and. I I feel way better. I started doing it. a few months ago. It's like like a force. of habit. Like I'm looking at it all the. time. Let me just not look at it today. And and then I did it another day and. another day. I'm like, "God, I feel. better. I feel better." Like I genuinely. feel better. It's like I'm getting over. a cold or something like that. And so I.

said, "All right, well obviously like. engaging. Definitely don't read. anything. Like definitely don't like. read when people say things about you. Definitely don't read when you you post. something. Read the comments. Don't do. any of that. You know, people get wrapped up in it. and you realize like people are just. trying to take you down. There's so I. mean, not all of them. A lot of people. are supporting you, but it doesn't. matter if there's like 10 people that. love you and one person that hates you, you're going to think about that one. person, >> you know, which is nuts. But it's just. human nature. >> It's crazy how that algorithm works is.

that it's just like if the there's. someone in the front row that's not. laughing. Like last night, I had a. I don't know, it was the bottom of the. barrel and I don't know how rape came. up, but. >> it always does. And I was like, "Well, there's no phones in here unless let's. go." I if I'm going to go for it, it's. in this room, >> right? >> And uh there was a woman that did not. like it. And she was a little vocal and. the crow, you know, the bouncer like, "Yo, you know, let him, you know, was. working this out or whatever." And then. she's like, "I was told to shut up." And. then in the rest of the night, I'm.

watching her out of the corner of my eye. going, "God damn it." And then I just. dug holes and holes and holes and and at. one point the whole audience is chanting. rape. And I'm like, >> I'm like, "Guys, this is bad." But but. it's but it's it's uh it's funny. And. then also it's like listen, say you're. some [ __ ] dude looking for a. connection in life and you go to my page. and you leave a hundred comments and. they're like, [snorts] "You're the best. bird. I love you. When you come to. Cincinnati, I'm I'm going to be here. Tampa, I'll be there, man. I'm going to. drive." And then the one time he's like, "You're a [ __ ] bitch." And then I.

reply. He's like, "Oh, I guess that's. how I get the cat to come outside." You. know? >> So that's why I don't read I don't read. any comments. >> Whitney was going into, you know, the. Whitney thing about Miss Rachel. I. didn't know who Miss Rachel is. >> I found out who she is today. 1.8. billion views on how to say mom and dad. And I was like, it makes sense, man. >> Well, she's she's a an educator for. neurode divergent kids. Is that what it. is? >> Yeah. I watched a couple of videos.

Pull up some videos of Miss Rachel. because after people were dra by the. way, the worst [ __ ] people were going. after her. people that I know that are. comedians that are just unbelievably. shitty, dishonest, disingenuous human. beings, bad faith communicators, people. that just like completely distort. anything about the person. Yeah. >> And it's just because she's successful. It's it's a giant part of it. And so. they see her making some crack about.

Miss Rachel because she was watching it. with her kid. She didn't know what the. [ __ ] it is. So here's Miss Rachel. Let. me let me hear what this sounds like. letters and two really special guests. >> No, >> no, not at all. >> Dinosaurs. >> I don't hear I don't hear anything in my. own microphone. >> Can you help me count them? >> Do you hear it? >> But I don't hear you, B. There we go. There we go. >> 2. 3. 4 Four must be the number of the day.

The dinosaur eggs are hatching. Wow. How many dinosaurs do we have? [music]. >> One, two, three, four. >> Okay, pause. >> Why would you go after this? >> Like, this is like a little kid show. Like, she must have been bored. >> There's nothing different from this. Blues Clues in my opinion. >> It's It's a show for little kids. Yeah. Like, I don't get it. >> I don't know. Maybe she was just trying.

>> She was trying to write a joke and. thought she'd get some traction. I guess. >> maybe she took two instead of one. [laughter] and then. >> she got a little extra energy. SHE TOOK. TWO. >> I don't know what she's doing. >> All of a sudden she's like, "Fuck Miss. Rachel." [laughter]. >> She took. >> But then she started responding to. people because she didn't understand. what it was she said. And then she took. it down and apologized. But you. >> that you can't apologize to the mob. They come for you. They come for you. And she learned. And I I texted her. I. said, "Listen, I love you to death. You. got to stop going back and forth with.

these people. You can't do that. It's. not they don't this is not a genuine. conversation. They don't care if you're. like if you were a person and you were. someone's friend and you started. [ __ ] on Miss Rachel and someone said. actually that's like for kids with. learning disorders and you'd be like oh. [ __ ] I didn't know and that would be the. end of it. >> and then we'd laugh, you know. But these. people are not looking for a real. conversation. They're just looking to. destroy your life. >> And then so many people like she lost. her career, career's over. Like what? What? But you weren't going to see her.

anyway, you [ __ ] [ __ ] Like what are. you talking about? You weren't you. weren't going to pay to see her anyway. Stop saying her career's over. It's not. doing a damn thing to her career. You. just want it to be over because you live. a miserable [ __ ] life, which is why. you're on Threads 12 hours a day. >> It's so funny you say that. I just read. something negative about Whitney on. Threads today. I was like, what does she. do, >> bro? Threads is the worst. >> And then I saw the Miss Rachel [ __ ] and. I watched a video. I had two kids. I.

don't know. I look at that as I go, that's nice. >> If threads is like for people who. already been like humiliated on Twitter. and they're trying to find a new crowd. Yeah. >> It's very weird. Very very like so much. negativity. Not that Twitter isn't like. Twitter's super negative, too. >> I haven't been on X. >> I try to look at the news only. I try to. look at news and things that people are. exposing that's in the news, which is. very interesting. Speaking of which, what was that thing that you found? Uh, >> so this is very strange. This is about. people being able to communicate in.

lucid dreaming. >> True. I guess we'll find out later. But. >> scientists report first ever. communication between two humans during. sleep. >> I'd love this. >> Scientists say that science fiction may. be coming closer to reality. According. to reports, California startup claims it. successfully enabled two-way. communication between people while they. were lucid dreaming. Participants were. asleep in separate locations while. researchers monitored their sleep and. transmitted a coded word designed to be. perceived inside a dream without waking. them. The system reportedly re relied on.

sensors, wireless communication, and specialized software to detect dream. states and relay the message. The. company's founder says that what once. sounded like science fiction could soon. become a daily a part of daily life. No. independent scient but they're not. saying what happened. No independent. scientific replication has confirmed the. results yet. Still, the experiment. builds on real research showing that. interaction between lucid dreams is. possible. Yeah, but what is the. interaction? >> The coded word, I guess, was it? >> Did they relay the coded word to each.

other? They both got the coded word. >> That's where I started getting known. until weird space. But I found out this. was posted on Instagram like yesterday. or something. >> Uh I Googled it. Press release was from. 2024. >> Breakthrough between breakthrough from. space. First ever communication between. people in dreams. So this is the article. about it in business wire. Lucid dreams. occur. Blah blah blah. Participants are. sleeping in their homes. Brain waves and. other polyoms. somnographic data were tracked remotely.

Specially designed uh developed. apparatus. When the server detected the. first participant entered a lucid dream, it generated a How do they detect that. someone's in a lucid dream? Because a. lucid dream is a dream where you're. aware that you're dreaming. >> Yes. It generated a random Remo word and. sent it to him via earbuds. Earbuds. participant repeated the word in his. dream with his response captured and. stored on the server. What? Eight. minutes later, the next participate uh.

participant entered a lucid dream. She. received the stored message from the. first participant and confirmed it upon. awakening. Huh. It sounds like it sounds like they're. saying it in the room and the person's. grabbing it. >> No, it's they're sending it through. earbuds. >> Yeah. They were both in their own houses. as it said at the time. >> Yeah. So, they receive it through. earbuds. He says it in the dream and. then she receives it. >> Oh. >> Huh. Well, you got to wonder what is.

happening in dreams. Dreams are very. bizarre. >> Have you ever lucid dreamed? >> Yeah. Yeah. Not s I mean I I've done it. a couple of times, but I haven't on. purpose. And I've always wondered why. not. Like why haven't I read books on. lucid dreams? Why haven't I tried to do. it? >> I think it's something that just. happens. >> No, you could actually do it. You could. there's there's guys that practice lucid. dreaming. >> I I mean I lucid dream pretty. extensively. Yeah. >> Like I've ever since when I remember. when you came out with Alpha Brain, you're one of the first things you said.

it would help with lucid dreaming. >> Oh, if you take it before bed, it. definitely helps with lucid dreaming. >> Yeah. And I remember saying I didn't. know what lucid dreaming was at the time. and then I found out I was lucid. dreaming. And I've I've lucid dreamed my. my whole life, but now that once I knew. what it was, I could stay in a dream and. decide and I could go back into dreams. I could restart a dream that I just had, go back to sleep and go, I'm going back. in. Really? Yeah. Yeah. >> It sounds crazy and I know it sounds. like horseshit, but I never knew what it. was. I never knew what it was until.

Alpha Brain. There's actual techniques. that people practice and apparently they. give classes and courses on how to do. lucid books written on it because. there's there's real techniques on how. to lucid dream. I just never I I don't. know why. Like I when I'm tired I just. want to go to sleep. I go hard all day. and when I crash I just crash. I don't. want to be [ __ ] around and. experimenting while I'm sleeping. I just. want to go to sleep. >> My lucid dreams primarily are either. like I'm I I realize I'm dreaming. I go,

"I'm asleep. I'm dreaming. This isn't. real. Oh [ __ ] I'm in control." And then. and then a lot of times it has to do. with [ __ ] like [laughter]. I'm like, "Oh, I I don't have to put a. condom on. This is great. This [ __ ] I. can't I'm going to bang all these. [ __ ] chicks in this room." And then. one time I had a lucid dream where I was. like, I could I was I knew I was. dreaming. I was outside. I had to go up. these steps into like an old cottage and. like one of those old Hollywood cottages. and I was like, I could have [ __ ] I. could have sex with anyone I want. And. in my dream, I was like, "Oh, I'll pick. your wife. How cool is that? >> [snorts].

>> And then I went to this cottage. I know. I [ __ ] my wife. How cool is that? >> I know. I could have [ __ ] her in real. life. And then but a lot of my dreams. back in the day when we when I first. started lucid dreaming, I would always. decide to fly. >> And I remember I remember I had one. right after we the first time I ever. tried Alpha Brain. I had one and I and. it was I was doing a photo shoot on. Melrose and I was like, I don't want to. be here. And then I was like, wait, I'm. dreaming. This isn't real. I was like, I'm going to fly home. And so I just. leapt up in the air, started flying over.

Hollywood and then over the hills and. then I was like, "Wait, I have no idea. I have no frame of reference for where I. am." I was like, "It's getting dark.". And I was like, "Where's the 101?" And. then in the dream, I was just started. kept flying. And then I wake up shortly. thereafter. But it's a lot of like a lot. of sex and a lot of flying. [laughter]. A lot of people breathe underwater in. their dreams. >> Uh, never breathe underwater. >> Yeah. They breathe underwater in their. dreams. They fly. Flying is like really. common. I used to have like crazy. [ __ ] dreams. Like wild. I sold a TV.

show to Comedy Central about my dreams. Like I've had dreams where I wake up. laughing. I've had dreams where I wake. up crying. Like I've I I have. >> such insane [ __ ] dreams, but And I. And no one ever wants to I No one ever. wants to hear I would have dream joke. dreams like real joke dreams. Like I had. a dream. This is a real dream I had. where I was on stage and I was in a. dance position like this and uh there's. a I know this sounds horshit is a real. dream and uh and the curtain's drawn and.

I look around and I see I'm standing on. stage with four or five dudes that are. all in clan outfits and I'm like oh. [ __ ] And I look down and I realize I'm. in a clan outfit and I'm like. [ __ ] And I'm like, I got to get. out of off stage. And the curtains draw. back. And I hear, and it's an all black. people. And I hear the voice, the voice. of God, ladies and gentlemen, put your. hands together for the click, clack. clan. And we started tap dancing. And we. were so good that the black people got. to their feet and they started cheering.

And we're like, oh my god. And so yeah, that was and that was a real dream. I. woke up and I wrote it down. I used to. write down all my dreams, voice text. them. I used to voice text them all. I'd. have dreams about you and and Stan Hope. and Ro and uh and Joey Diaz. Like I I it. was like my whole world. I used to think. to myself like I I dream about Shaq the. other day. I was like I wonder if Shaq. ever dreams about me. >> I bet he doesn't. >> I bet he doesn't. [laughter]. >> Who's the Who's the Who's someone you've. had a dream about recently? >> I don't really have dreams too many.

dreams about people. Not people that I. know. >> What are your dreams about? >> My dreams are weird, man. >> Like let's dig into this. I had a dream. that I came on the podcast I had to talk. about because it was the absolute. strangest most realistic dream of my. life and it was a dream where I. encountered these beings that were not. human and it was insanely realistic. They were very humanlike. I think there. was four of them. They were tall and.

thin and they look kind of they didn't. look human. Their heads were too big. Their eyes are too big. And I can't I. think they had teeth. I don't remember. But I remember they were joking with me. Like they scared me and they like ah. just [ __ ] around like trying to get. me comfortable with who they are. And. they were communicating with me somehow. or another through thoughts. And uh I. was really freaked out because they. seemed very very real. They didn't seem.

like any other dream that I had. So much. so that I woke up at like 3:30 in the. morning and I just lay in bed for an. hour trying to go back to sleep and I. couldn't go back to sleep. I was almost. like I'm not sleep. I'm wide awake. And. so I went to the gym and uh I just. worked out at 4 in the morning and I. worked out for like 2 hours and after it. was over I got in the sauna, did the. whole thing and then I came to work. I. was like I have to talk about this right. away cuz it was so strange. It was one. of the only dreams that I've ever had. that did not feel at all like a dream.

It felt like I was encountering someone. or something that was trying to get me. comfortable with the idea of. encountering them. >> It wasn't It wasn't like a dream. It was. I was in the corridor of something that. seemed uh like it was it was not like it. was from here. It was like from. somewhere else, but it was almost like. it was very oddly lit. Like the walls.

were lit in a very strange way, but it. was almost like it was was this. corridor, but it had a feeling almost. like it was organic, like it was alive, like it was a living thing. It was very. [ __ ] strange. >> What if what if that was But what if. that is something that you did in fact. experience that was taken out of your. memory and then it's stuck in your. memory and you're dreaming about it? >> I. don't know. I mean, you could maybe all. day long, right? And so my feeling was. that I had and this is again it clearly.

could was I was dreaming, right? So it. clearly could have been just a dream, but what it felt like was that it was an. actual encounter with intelligence that. wasn't human. That's what it felt like. And it felt like these things were not. they were not us. And maybe they were. what a human will be someday because. they were humanlike, but they were very. slender. They were very thin. And they.

were wearing these suits that were like. almost like rash guards like what. surfers wear, but but but a strange. fabric like it looked weird. And it was. the color of their skin, but it was. clear that they were wearing something. It didn't appear that they had any. genitals. They had no muscle tone at. all. They were just thin. And they were. communicating with me and looking at me. and they were they were close like where. you are right now. And I think like I. said I think it was at least three of. them. I think there was four of them. But I remember there was one that was.

going like like Jo and then like ah. joking around with me like trying to. scare me and then like pret like and it. felt to me after they did it like relax. like this is okay like don't be freaked. out whatever this is. Don't be freaked. out. And then I woke up and when I woke. and then there was also this weird. reptilian element of it. There was like. a barrier. They had a barrier and they. were feeding like with they were like. pouring food to these things that almost. like was letting me know the the.

protection between you and this horrific. danger that's out there in. [clears throat] the world, in the. universe, in life is very it's very. thin. There's very thin protection. There's not much protection. It was just. a like a like a barrier, like a a simple. barrier, like a you know, like a a. [ __ ] a blockade they put to keep a. crowd from passing through an area to. let you know you're not supposed to go. here. >> It's crazy how it's crazy how much you.

How long ago did you have this dream? >> A few months ago, >> but isn't it so wild that something that. didn't happen. >> Yeah. >> can be locked in your memory and then. you just you're like, God, it affects. you almost like it did. Well, now it's. like a memory of my recollection of the. memory, which is odd, which is memories. in general, which is why people distort. memories and change them and make, you. know, make the past something that's not. real. You know, you've talked to people. that Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. We all do it. >> I do it on podcasts. >> Yeah. Everybody does it. But this was.

different. This whatever this dream was. I mean, look, there's a lot of. confusion about what happens during. sleep. you know, we don't exactly know. why you have dreams and what it's all. what what's the function of it, what's. the purpose of it. But this one was. different. It was much more realistic. than any dream I had ever experienced. before. Like the the interaction between. me and these these creatures, these.

beings was very different than anything. I'd ever experienced in a dream. The. point like I I felt it physically and I. woke up. I can sleep on a bag of rocks. I can just go to sleep, dude. I have my. It drives my wife crazy because she. struggles to sleep and I if we got on a. plane, I just I [snorts] just [ __ ] out. cuz I'm always going. So like when it's. time when it's downtime, I don't have a. problem sleeping, dog. I can go to. sleep. I'll sleep on a roof. I can. sleep. I couldn't go back to sleep,

which is really weird for me. I mean, I. was wide awake at 4 in the morning, you. know, and I'm like, "Okay, I'm I'm going. to the gym because I I laid in bed for a. whole hour trying to go back to sleep.". So, it's just a dream. Just go to sleep. I'm like, "Dude, just get up. You're not. going to sleep." And I'm like, "All. right, well, I'm up. I'll just go work. out. Like, maybe that'll help me go to. sleep." Nope. I was wide awake. Wide. awake. I I wasn't even Most of the time. when I'm working out, I'm either. watching music or watching fights on TV.

I didn't even do that. I was just by. myself in silence trying to make sense. of it. Just doing chin-ups and dips and. trying to make sense of whatever the. [ __ ] that was cuz it just didn't seem. like a dream. It felt so real. It felt. so real. And when I've talked to like my. UFO friends like like Jesse Michaels is. like really into UFOs. He's like, "I. think you had a real encounter." I'm. like, "I don't know." You know, I don't. know what it was, but it certainly felt. like a real encounter, whatever it was. Do you listen to anything while you.

sleep or you sleep in the silence? Oh, I. listen to podcast so I'll have drinks. >> while you're sleeping. >> Always. >> That's so ridiculous. >> I listen to. >> That's so unhealthy. >> I listen to a podcast about Rasputin. last night. [laughter]. >> I listen You. >> ever see his dick? They have his dick. pickled in a jar. >> Are you sering. chicks? >> Are you sure? >> I don't know. >> I think he was fine. >> It's not It's not in the. >> the giant hog like that. I think he's. put it to use. Find Rasputin's hog. >> But he was That's what he did. I would. love to see his dick. >> You'll see it. That's look at the size.

of that hog. >> By the way, that's limp and dead. Imagine what that thing looked like when. it was hard. Look at that. Look on that. guy's face. Look at the size of this. coke. Look at this coke. Big old [ __ ]. pickled. >> That's a big dick. >> And I mean, like again, this is like a. dead man's dick. So there's no blood in. it at all. You imagine what that thing. was like hard. Big old Russian dick. >> Big old axe handle. Thank god that. wasn't my dream. >> So he was, you know, he was like, what.

does it say? Rasputin's alleged genitals. was sold in 2000 for $8,000. Still. surrounded by mystery with some experts. believing it might actually belong to a. bull. Shut up. >> They had a hard time killing him. >> Yeah, they try to poison him, right? >> And they shoot him at the end and then. throw him in the [ __ ] river. >> Well, Russians are different white. people. >> Ah, that's the joke I missed last night. >> What? There was in the bottom of the. barrel they were like uh Trump versus. Putin and I was like and I was thinking. about Rasputin but I was thinking but I.

was like Trump Russians are hard to kill. and then I just went on to [ __ ]. >> what what was this thing he was like a. spiritual advisor. >> Oh Joe that's a great topic. I'll tell. you everything you know. >> Yeah he was a self-described holy man. >> and he was from 1869 to 1966. >> He was from Siberia. Uh so he gained. significant influence with Zar Nicholas. II after 1905 rapidly earning the trust. of both Nicholas himself and his wife. Alexandra. He became a healer in quotes. for their hemophiliac son Alexi. What.

what was happening was Alexi was getting. given aspirin by the doctors and. Rasputin came in and was like yo get the. doctors away from him and he was a. hemophiliac. He had internal bleeding. And when they removed the aspirin, which. is a blood thinner, he the kid started. to heal. And so the Zarina said, "He's. magic." Even like at one point the kid. was going to die and he wrote a letter. and he said, "Leave, tell the your kid's. going to be fine. I had a dream about. it, but get the doctors out of there.". And the doctors were always giving him. aspirin and that was what was injuring.

the kid. They're all all the royalty at. that time were hemophiliacs. >> What? >> Yeah. Because of the inbreeding. That's. why they didn't have chins. They had. long noses and they were all. hemophiliacs. >> Oh god. >> And so uh but what's crazy is the. Russian so she loved Rasputin and would. write letters to Rasputin that kind of. sound a little sketchy but then all of. the all of Russia started thinking this. healer has an end to the Zar and the. Zarina. So all of a sudden this healer. is running the country. What they didn't.

know they couldn't tell anyone no our. kid's a [ __ ] hemophiliac. They. couldn't tell anyone that because then. they looked weak. Oh, >> and so, so in a weird way, Rasputin got. kind of thrown to the wolves cuz they. couldn't tell him why we why they needed. him. That she wasn't [ __ ] him. That. their marriage was intact. >> How do you know she wasn't [ __ ] him. with that big old giant dick? That. probably the guy was laying pipe. >> He might have been. >> He probably was. >> She wrote a letter that says like, "Kiss. your like she wrote a letter and. translation was like, kiss your cheek. gently.". >> Oh, yes. >> Some [ __ ] Yeah,

>> he [ __ ] her. >> There was It was Katherine the Great. that [ __ ] a horse. >> I heard about that. Yeah. >> Didn't she die [ __ ] a horse? I think. so. I went to that barn in Russ when I. was in Russia. We went to that barn. >> If you you imbreeded, you know, multiple. generations in a row and then give them. ultimate power. They're going to start. [ __ ] horses. >> I mean, what what kind of life is that? What kind [snorts] of weird world is. that? You're born royal. >> It's insane. >> You know what I'm watching again? >> What? >> Game of Thrones. Started it all from the. beginning. >> Are you serious? >> [ __ ] amazing. We're on season two.

now. >> You Wait, your family? >> Yeah. Me and my wife. It's so good, dude. We did it with the girls on. vacation, >> bro. Whoever that dude is that played. Joffrey, that guy should get all the. awards. >> Yeah, >> he's so good. His transition from being. a like a shitty kid to an evil king is. [ __ ] amazing. It's a He the way he. plays Joffrey is [ __ ] incredible. >> Yeah. >> I forgot how good that show is. It's one. of the greatest shows of all time.

>> But you'll never you'll never see him as. anything other than Joffrey. >> Problem. Yeah, that's a problem for a. lot of people that have like significant. like Kramer like you know like. >> two things. >> A couple things. This is the other. thing. Do you know he wrote a book and. didn't mention that in the book? >> Really? >> Yeah. >> That's interesting. >> Yeah. Somebody read the book. One one of. the comics read the book. He's like I'm. waiting for that to come up. He goes he. never [ __ ] brings it up. >> What's the What's the title? A tell all. book except for one thing. >> Except [laughter] for the [ __ ]. biggest thing that's ever happened. >> Biggest thing that ever happened in my.

life. >> Not only that, it was the first. cancellation. The first public. cancellation. >> Was that really the first cancellation? >> Oh, yeah. Through viral video. The first. public cancellation through viral video. >> because I I remember that night because. uh I think I was at the improv and then. I came over to the store. >> I do remember that night. >> and Brett Ernst was at the store. He had. just come over from the Laugh Factory. He goes, "Bro," he goes, "I was just at. the Laugh Factory." He goes, "Kramer was. off the rails." He goes, he went nuts.

He got heckled. He start yelling the. n-word at these [ __ ] people in the. audience. I GO, "NO." HE GOES, "DUDE, it. was [ __ ] crazy." He goes, "He was. bombing and they were heckling him." And. then he starts dropping end bombs. I'm. like, "No way." He goes, "Yeah, I don't. know what the [ __ ] he was on, but he he. did a set at the store. He seemed a. little a little speedy, a little, you. know, a little elevated." And then left. the store, bombed the store, and went. over to the Laugh Factory. And that was. that night. >> he did uh he was at the improv the. weekend before and I was there and he.

was he was doing stand up but he was. doing a a version of Kramer a version of. like crazy and he fell on a glass. >> and broke the glass and cut him and but. everyone laughed and I think everyone's. like I think he's bleeding. >> but it was like really off. Well, he was. doing really off stuff from the jump. Like [snorts] he came to the store. I. think he just decided to start doing. standup because Seinfeld had been. cancelled for a long time. Want to start. doing something again. And he started. doing stand up, but he didn't have any.

material. He would just kind of fall. down. It was weird. He would like. pretend that something went wrong and. like try to do the mic stand and slip. and fall. It was very odd. Which is also. my theory that I've been telling. everybody about Chevy Chase. >> Okay. I'd love to hear that. So. everybody is talking about what a. terrible person Chevy Chase is and you. know there's all these videos that come. out of him screaming at people and being. mean and you know. >> I saw one with Bill Murray, Rodney. Dangerfield and him. >> where it's like back right when they're.

promoting Catty Shack and he just yells. at some other guy right some other guy. that's on the set. >> and this is my take on it. >> I want you to pull up the. like a compilation of Chevy Chase's. Pratt falls. Okay, Chevy Chase has to be. in constant pain. Has to be. He has to. be in constant pain and almost 100% has. CTE. Chevy Chase used to throw himself.

down flights of stairs. He used to throw. himself off the stage into chairs and. tables. He used to like slip, go flying. through the air, land on his head. The. most. ridiculous Pratt falls. the most. aggressive violent Pratt falls you've. ever seen. And he did this for years. Yeah. For years. Like he was in a car. crash multiple times a week for years. >> Wow. >> Yeah. I mean, maybe he had a shitty. personality already.

>> Well, I think he was he was also that. first generation of what fame is. Like. he was the most famous person to ever. come off SNL ever. Like his walking off. SNL was like, >> "Get ready for a movie star." And I. don't think I don't think we'll ever I I. won't ever understand the level of fame. he had. >> at the time. >> Like like his fame was like and this is. also I mean like look I love Bert. Reynolds. >> but but Steve Martin was super famous. too and he's not a [ __ ] No. >> You know what I mean? It's like I don't. think that's it. I want to I want you to. see these videos.

>> I don't know why I can't find a. compilation. I can find a bunch of. videos of it but. >> just you I know there's a compilation. because I've seen it. I just typed it in. and the video that pops up only has it's. a 4-minute video of him on Johnny. Carson. >> No, I'm just I know. >> I'm telling you there's. >> there's a bunch. there's a bunch. >> Gerald Ford that was Gerald Ford fell, right? >> So he would Yeah, cuz Gerald Gerald Ford. was kind of like Biden. He would fall a. time. So here is. >> worst, dude. >> Look at that. You know how hard he falls.

there? Look, go back and watch that. again. Watch. Watch how hard he falls. when he does this. This is him doing. this Christmas. >> What happened? >> I lost it. >> The Christmas thing that you just. showed. >> I I'm telling you, it just accidentally. disappeared. >> Joe, >> you could find it. >> There it is. >> Okay, watch this. Watch this. Watch him. fall. Boom. Head first with the tree. Falls down. Barely stops his fall.

Chvy Chase worst wrestling moments from. Saturday Night Live. Like this is just. this is him just stumbling around. This. is nothing. But there's videos of him. >> therapy session. >> Okay. Obviously that chair is going to. break. [cheering]. No, this is not what I'm looking for. See if you can find it. Find it and get. back to us. But there's I know there's.

videos of him like literally like flying. off stage, landing on his back, slipping, legs up in the air, landing on. a ladder. >> Yeah. >> I I fell I had to fall off a ladder for. a TV show one time. They're like, "We. need you to fall." And they had a a. crash pad. >> It you get four steps up a ladder, you're high as [ __ ]. >> Well, even if you have a crash pad, your. head is wobbling around, right? So your. brain is sloshing around from the. impact. This is one of the things that. people don't realize. Like football. players get brain damage from getting. hit in the chest. So CTE you can get.

from riding a jet ski, from bouncing on. the waves. It's your brain walking, [ __ ] bouncing around off the walls of. your skull, >> from roller coasters. >> You can get it from everything. You can. get it from a lot of things. Repeated. subconcussive trauma. But he fell and. landed on his [ __ ] head. Yeah. And if. you find the video that's a compilation, there's a compilation of people like the. worst falls of Chevy Chase. And it's. crazy. And he did this for years. That.

was his thing. Slip and fall. Slip and. fall. Slip and fall. >> And tons of coke. >> All those things. So slip and fall. Allegedly. Tons of coke. >> Allegedly. >> Allegedly. I mean, I don't know. I mean, >> I've read some books. >> Yeah. But that the book on do you know. what happened when Bill Murray was here? When he was talking. >> Are you talking about Bill? I love that. book. So when he read Wired, he read So. the guy who wrote Wired was Bob. Woodward. Bob Woodward was the guy that. was involved in Watergate. He was the.

naval intelligence officer who became a. journalist and his first ever assignment. was to take down the president, which is. very suspicious. Like Tucker Carlson. told me the whole story behind it. I was. like, "What?" The people that were break. that broke in were all FBI. The whole. thing was a setup. It was to set Nixon. up and they had already gotten rid of. Spiro Agnu who was his VP. They got him. on I think corruption charges. I forget. what it was. >> Didn't Kennedy put the the bug system in. there? Wasn't the It was the president.

before that put the put the wire the. wiring in the inside the room, right? >> What room. >> in Watergate? Didn't was didn't. >> No, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, it was a. setup. Nixon was not involved in the. setup, but they told him about what. happened and then he was involved in the. cover up. That's how they got him. Okay. That's how they got him and that's how. he got removed from office. >> And the recordings were from his office, right? >> The recordings were from the Democratic. party. So he was recording the. Democratic Party. He was recording he. was secretly recording the opposition.

party, but he didn't do it. So the FBI. did it and then they brought it to him. knowing that he would cover it up and. that's where he committed the crime. like instead of coming out and saying, "Hey, some people have uh recorded these. people." Even if he did that, they would. have said he was involved. But the the. whole thing was to get him out of. office. The reason why they wanted to. get him out of office because he was. publicly and privately stating, at least. amongst other people that were in the. White House and that he knew who killed.

JFK and he was going to get to the. bottom of it because look, JFK had just. been killed. He ran against JFK in six. in 1960 or ' 62. 62. What year was it? Either way, I think it was 60. He ran. against JFK and then JFK gets. assassinated and now he's the president. And when he's the president, he was. publicly stating or privately stating to. different people like he was going to. get to the bottom of it. And he knew who. killed JFK. He was like in investigating. it. He was interested in it obviously.

because he was worried they were going. to kill him. And so then they set him up. and they removed him from office and. they put Gerald Ford in as his VP. Gerald Ford was also on the Warren. Commission. Like the whole thing was a. giant setup to get rid of the most. popular president in the history of the. country, you know, and everybody's like, "Oh, Nixon's a crook. Nixon's a I'm not. a crook." That was all like his gigantic. propaganda PR campaign to remove Nixon. from office. It was all a deep state. operation. >> Wow.

>> Nixon won the presidency like the widest. margin of anybody in history. He was the. most popular president in history. And. in today's days, we think of Nixon as. being a crook and a scumbag, but he. didn't even do it. He was just involved. in the cover up when they brought it to. him. >> Was like, what is he going to do? He's. running for president again to. re-election and they're saying, you. know, hey, these guys, they busted these. guys recording things like cover it up, cover it up, cover it up. And so that's. how they got him. >> And what was his post presidency like? >> So, what do you mean? Let me finish.

Sorry. So, uh, before I go any further, so Bill Murray is here and he said he. read the first couple pages of Wired. >> and he goes he put it down. He goes, "Oh. my god, they framed Nixon." That was the. first thing that he said. He said because the version that Bob. Woodward told of John Belalushi, his. very good friend, was so wildly off. He. goes, "That time where John did that. speedball and died was probably the only. time where he ever did that." He goes,

"He was a total lightweight. He would. have a couple of drinks and he'd be. drunk. He wasn't a guy who did drugs all. the time." He goes, "It was all. bullshit.". >> Are you serious? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Do you realize like guys like Chris. Farley literally idolized John Belalushi. because of books like Wired? >> Exactly. Exactly. And Well, the. difference is Chris Farley really was. doing drugs. >> myself. I idolized John Belalushi. I. read Wired when I was in college and was. like, "Dude, this is I mean, there's so. many aspects of my personality that I. draw from a book like that of like the.

way he was comfortable in an agent's. office and and B12 shots I get because. of John Blushi.". >> Well, I'm sure he did all those things. and I'm sure he partied, but like the. version this this exaggerated version of. just being completely out of control on. drugs was fake. And this is according to. Bill Murray who was best friends with. him. He's like, "It's not true." It's. like if somebody tried to write. something about you and I read it and I. was like, "This is not Bird at all." So. his initial thought was, "Oh my god,

they framed Nixon.". >> Jesus Christ. >> And they did. They did frame Nixon. See. if you can find the video of Tucker. Carlson explaining to me how they frame. Nixon. >> I have a copy of Wired in my tour bus. >> Yeah. Don't read it. >> I'm going to get rid of it. Bob Bob. Woodward was an intelligence agent 100%. He was naval intelligence and then he. left from that which he never really. leave and then he became a reporter for. the Washington Post. >> and his first job was Watergate.

>> which is nonsense. >> That's a [ __ ] insane. >> There's no way you would a senior. reporter would be covering the most. important story. You wouldn't give it to. a rookie whose first assignment. >> that's and what about what's Bernstein? What about him? >> I don't know. >> cuz didn't they write it together? >> Yeah, they did. I mean, I don't. >> And Deep Throat was their Did we ever. find out who Deep Throat was? >> Yeah. Listen to this, though. >> This is seven minutes long and watch the. whole thing. >> Let's listen to some of it because it's. interesting. >> That's what it is. It's their tool and. they're perfectly aware of that. I mean, I used to write for the New York Times.

as a freelancer. I mean, I've been. around the New York Times a lot. And. there uh yeah, there are a lot of really. smart people there for sure. Even now, I. would less so now, but there's still, I. think, smart people there. There are I. know some and they know but they think. that that you know it's worth it because. they're bringing information or I don't. know what they think actually. >> but no they're they're tools. of power and that's like the one thing. that you're not allowed to be even if. you think the power is good like maybe. they all support the agenda of the US. government destabilizing the world and.

impoverishing their own population maybe. they're on board with that. even if they are they shouldn't do it. because the job of the media the. is to keep power in check. You are kind. of like the seat belt, right? You know, you make sure that. things don't go too far. So, um, and. they're not doing that. They're acting. as a willing handmaidaiden. >> When do you think that switched? >> I think it's been the case for a long.

time. I mean, if you look at what. happened to Richard Nixon, which I of. course did not understand at all, um. Richard Nixon was taken out by the FBI. and CIA and um with the help of Bob Bob. Woodward, who was a Washington Post. reporter who had been a naval. intelligence officer working in the. White House, working in the Nixon White. House. And then he shows up like a year. later and he's this brand new reporter, never been a journalist at all. He's a.

naval intel officer, the famous Bob. Woodward we all rever, and he's at the Washington Post, and. somehow he gets the biggest story in the. history of the Washington Post. He's the. lead guy in that story. Well, I I worked. at a newspaper. I've been in the news. business my whole life. That is not how. it works. You don't take a kid like his. first day from a totally unrelated. business and put him on the biggest. story. But he was he was that guy. And. who is his main source for Watergate? Oh, the number two guy at the FBI.

Oh, so you have the naval intelligence. officer working with the FBI official to. destroy the president. Okay, so that's a. deep state coup. What else? How would. you describe that? If that happened in. Guatemala, what would you say? And yet. the way it was framed and the way that I. accepted for decades was, oh, this. intrepid reporter fought power. No, no, no. This intrepid reporter, Bob. Woodward, was a tool of power, secret. power, which is the most threatening. kind, to bounce the single most popular.

president in American history, Richard. Nixon, from office before the end of his. term, and replace him with who? Oh, Gerald Ford, who sat on the Warren. Commission. Now, how did Gerald Ford get. to be Richard Nixon's vice president? Well, because Carl Albert, the Democrat. speaker of the house, told him, "You. must choose him. We will only confirm. him when they sent the actual elected. vice president away for tax evasion. Spiro Agnu of Maryland. So you have a.

complete setup like an abs Gerald Ford. the only unelected president in American. history actually sat on the Warren. Commission. Something else that I. accepted at face value until I looked at. it and I was like that's completely. insane. You didn't want to interview. Jack Ruby in your investigation the. assassination? Okay, you're fake. Yeah, he was on the Warren Commission. And so, uh, sorry for the long story, but the. point is like that that happened in. front of all of us, but the way it was. framed cloaked the obvious reality of. it. The people who broke into the. Watergate office building from which the.

name is taken, Watergate. was, I think it was six of them or seven. of them, all but one was a CIA employee. That that's real. It's like, look it up. on Google. So the whole thing, Richard. Nixon was elected by more votes than any. president in American history in the. 1972 election. He was the most popular. by votes, which is the only way we can. really measure popularity. The most. popular president. in his re-election campaign and two. years later, he's gone. Undone by a.

naval intel officer, the number two guy. at the FBI, and a bunch of CIA. employees. You tell me what that is. Those are the facts. Those are not. disputed facts. That's not crackpot. [ __ ] That's just look it up. >> So why did they want to get rid of. Nixon? >> Um, you know, there are a lot of. theories on that. I mean, we don't, first of all, we don't need to know. motive to know what happened. They, meaning unelected federal employees got.

rid of Richard Nixon, which is the most. anti-democratic way to make a leadership. change that there is. Okay. I should. just say at the I actually kind of. believe in democracy. Obviously, it's. not working well. Obviously, it's ending. globally. There will never be another. liberal democracy, unfortunately. But. I'm attached to it cuz I was born here. I really believe in it and it's better. than any other system. So, that's why. I'm pissed. What was their motive? There are a lot of theories on this. There's an amazing conversation. It's on. tape um between Richard Nixon when he.

was still president. I think it was in. 1973, and I think it was Richard Helms, the head of the CIA, though I may have. [ __ ] that up, but it was the head of. the CIA. I think it was Helms. Um, and. Nixon says, "I know why they killed Jack. Kennedy." So Nixon was a student of. history, obviously a flawed and. complicated person, but a very, very. smart person. And he was really. interested in why this guy who'd been. president, just one president before. him, was murdered. And he didn't think.

it was a lone gunman who was. mysteriously assassinated two days later. by another lone gunman. Like, it's so. obviously [ __ ] and he knew that and. he said to the SEA director who and you. can listen to the tape it's on the. internet is totally silent on this. question. So I think there was the. impression I don't think I know that. Nixon understood that the bureaucracy. was really in control of the country. It. wasn't elected officials and that's a. massive threat. Um because it's true.

>> That's good. >> So. >> dude [clears throat]. >> that's all media. >> Yeah. all media takes their slant and. their angle and decides they're going to. dictate it their way as opposed to I I. don't I don't even know I I don't even. know of a journalist that I mean no one. there's no one that sits objectively and. watches anything anymore. >> No, not in mainstream media. >> No, absolutely. >> You saw what they did with the photo of. that kid who got shot, that pretty guy. who got shot in Minneapolis.

>> MSNBC doctorred his photo and made him. better looking. fixed his teeth, squared. his jaw, gave him a tan. You haven't. seen it? >> No. Please pull that up. >> We We showed it yesterday, but we'll. show it again today. The before and. after. It's in the text that I sent. Yeah. It's [ __ ] crazy. Look at the. difference. >> What? >> Yeah. It's him on the left. He looks. like Ari's brother. On the right, he he. looks like some [ __ ] handsome. Crossfitter. Like, look at the. difference. Look at the teeth. Look at.

the nose. They shrunk his nose. They. widened his jaw. They shrunk his chin. That's crazy. They decided he was too ugly to be. sympathetic towards. >> So, so then, so then. [sighs and gasps] Man, this kind of bums. me out that you I mean, I I always kind. of had hopes up that if I turned on, if. I turned on the news, I'd hear some. objective rant or some objectiveness of. anything, but there's none. >> Yeah. You got to go independent. You got.

to go to Glenn Greenwald and Michael. Shelonburgger and people like that, Matt. Taiibbe. You got to go to independent. journalists. The only ones that are. going to give you the real deal. People. that are connected to giant corporations. that their job is to distribute the. news. They're not going to give you. They're going to give you a narrative. that's approved. Who was Deepth Throat? Because Deep Throat was exposed. They. did eventually expose Deep Throat. And. it's even more shocking when you find. out who Deep Throat was. >> I saw the movie. That's a different. movie. >> That's about suck and [ __ ]. >> That was a good one.

>> Well, the the name Deep Throat was. because in nod to the movie. >> Oh, for real? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The the the. movie came out first. Um [ __ ] was. uh W. Mark felt the number two official. at the FBI during Watergate, who. secretly provided key information to. Washington Post reporter Bob Woodburn. So, the FBI was involved in the breakin. The number two official at the FBI was. the guy who is providing information. under the name Deepth Throat. So the FBI.

did it. They did the whole thing. >> Is that your phone? >> It's Yeah, I'm an old man. Joe FBI. >> It's the FBI. You said FBI too many. times. >> How Who's calling you when it's on do. not disturb? It might be the FBI. >> Spam risk. Should I answer? >> No. >> Why is it I don't understand. You put it. on. I have no idea, Joe. I'm old. >> They're hacking it. >> I'm [ __ ] I got I need They probably do. That's a weird ring though. >> That's an old man ring. >> cuz my wife doesn't answer a [ __ ]. phone. So, I turned her ring to that. So, she changed my ring to that. >> We're two old [ __ ] people.

>> So, then what's the fix? How do I trust. anyone? >> You have to trust independent news, independent media that's not connected. to any corporation. Because as soon as. you're connected to a corporation, you're connected to advertisers. As soon. as you connected to advertisers, the a. giant percentage of advertisers on. television is pharmaceutical drug. companies, major corporations. So you. have things that you're not allowed to. touch. That's why you never hear. anything in all the news about vaccine. injuries. You never never hear about all.

these people that are having strokes, all these people that the rise in heart. attacks, the rise in myocarditis, particularly amongst young people, blood. clots. >> That's what we were talking about. I got. backed like four times. >> like boosters from W. Johnson. Johnson. Johnson. >> Mhm. >> And uh that's the first thing they say. when they start looking at blood counts. They're like, "Do you get vaccinated?". And I was like, "Yeah, four times." Even. doctors like f you didn't need to do it. four times. >> Yeah. Well, I don't know why you did. that. >> Cuz you had to get no goddamn concert. You had to show. >> You didn't have to have four of them to. get in a concert. >> I had a TV. First one was real early.

Like I got it when when you were gotten. cancelled for getting it. >> They're like just just Mexican people. And I just went in with a mask on like, "Hola." And got a [ __ ] shot in East. LA cuz I had to go shoot a movie. >> Oh wow. >> They're like, "Do not show your [ __ ]. face." And I was like, "I won't. I. won't.". >> Why not show your face? >> Cuz it was like it was back when it was. like uh it was just um what was it? Need. not needy workers. What is it called? The remember remember the first round of. >> workers. >> It was like like people you need in the. country, you know? >> Right. Essential essential workers.

Yeah. >> And then I was shooting a movie so they. got me a pass to get a. >> Oh, so you got it when you weren't. supposed to get it? >> Yeah. way early. Way early. >> Oh, interesting. >> And then and then I got it I got it. I. had to get it again in Serbia. >> for a movie. >> And Yeah. And that's when. >> they made you get it again. >> Again? >> Yeah. >> And then I got it when I came home. And. then I got it one more time. >> Mo AR told me he had to do it. He had to. get boosted before they let him do his. Netflix series. >> Yeah. Doesn't even make Why? Meanwhile, he'd had COVID. He'd recovered.

He had CO when we were all doing those. concerts. When me and Chappelle and him. and a bunch of other guys were were. doing those pandemic concerts, he got. CO. So there was no reason for him to. get boosted. >> I got boosted four times. I got CO 11. times. >> God. >> Like what I mean it's like [ __ ]. >> so crazy. >> It's crazy. When I had COVID when I was. shooting Free Bert. >> Jesus. >> I gave it to a bunch of people. They were like you got a cough. And I. was like ah it's fine. D you want to get.

tested? I was like, "No, I'm not getting. tested.". >> But the first thing like my wife asked. me wearing a condom. I was like, "We're. good, guys.". >> And uh and then I I gave it to one of. the dudes, I think, and the dude was. wearing a mask. He was the only one that. got it. >> Shout out to my buddy. >> Well, he probably had gotten boosted a. bunch of times. >> I should tell everyone to watch Freeird. on Netflix. I That's I I should say. that. But keep going. Can I tell you. something I'm I'm obsessed with that. I've been dying to talk to you about. So, like, uh, I watched the I've been.

watching I've been watching a lot of UFC. lately and and and [snorts] I I want. your perspective because I'm thinking of. this globally like Jordan, they compare. Jordan and LeBron James, right? And they. compare Tom Brady to to Joe Montana and. the big argument they always say is, well, you know, Tom Brady couldn't play. in the league Joe Montana played in. because the rules were different. They. got [ __ ] up left and right. Right. Okay. >> And like they were concussions and there. was no roughing the passer. You could. hit the quarterback late, all that [ __ ]. >> right? >> Well, what about UFC? Because like how.

would say, and I don't mean slanderous, I just curious, okay, >> someone like Tank Tank Abbott or or Dan. Severson or or Hoist Gracie, how would. they fare against say the the fighters. that are fighting today? >> Well, it really all depends on whether. or not they I think Tank Abbott would do. really well. I think Tank Abbott would. do really well because the heavyweight. division is the most shallow division. Like would he do really well against the. guys like Sirill Gan or Tom Aspenol?

Probably not. But he didn't do really. well against guys like Maurice Smith, you know, the real elite strikers of the. day. But Tank Abbott was a [ __ ] huge. man. I mean, he was enormous powerful. guy who had ridiculous knockout power. and he would brawl and anybody who brawl. like look at Derrick Lewis. Derrick. Lewis has the most knockouts in the. history of the UFC and he's not like the. most highly skilled guy in the sport. He's just a really big powerful guy who. has unbelievable knockout power and he's.

still. >> relatively successful even today. He has. the most knockouts in the history of the. heavyweight division. But Tank Abbott. would still [ __ ] a lot of people up in. the lower ranks of the heavyweight. division. Dan Severn would still take a. lot of people down and beat their asses. because he was an elite wrestler. Like. those kind of skills, Mark Coleman would. take a lot of people down and beat their. asses. those skills that they have like. the elite wrestlers and the the really. powerful punchers they would always do. well. Hois Gracie um if first of all if.

he was fighting in the UFC he would be. fighting without a ghee so that would be. different right so he relied on the ghee. a lot because he would get a hold of. guys and they would grab the ghee like. instinctively and he like great like. that's part that's what he wanted and. then and then once it went to the ground. I mean it was like a man and a child. like his jiu-jitsu was so good and for. the time no one even knew jiu-jitsu. So he was a black belt against white. belts and he was just tapping out. everybody. Nobody had a chance.

>> in this day and age. That's just not the. case anymore. Hoist Gracie still, >> if he was alive today, I or not he's. alive today. If he's of course he's. alive today. If he was competing today, if he was a young man competing today, he would still give hell to a lot of. people in an appropriate weight class if. it went to the ground because his. jiu-jitsu is so good. His striking was. always a means to an end. his striking. He would put go at a distance, he would. kick at your legs, but he was his whole. thing was about closing the distance,

getting you to the ground, strangling. you, getting you in you an arm bar, tapping you out in a triangle, jiu-jitsu. So, he was a pure jiu-jitsu. fighter. And if it went to the ground. today, he would still give real problems. to a lot of fighters cuz he was that. good. He was that good at the on the. ground. And today, with the difference. in training partners, he'd be even. better. >> Yeah. I'm I'm reading this book by uh. Wright Thompson. You know that dude? He's he wrote Papy Land? >> No. >> But he's it's he's talking about Jordan. in this book.

>> and how at 50 Jordan had a hard time. like going to the next phase of his. life. He still was like, "What if I put. him on? What if I put I want to go?". >> Of course. He's a champion. >> Happens with fighters, too. >> Oh, yeah. I mean, you go back to Shannon. Sharp and he's doing better now. financially than he ever did, but I bet. he'd trade it all just. >> Yeah. It's the glory of sport. It's like. there's nothing else like those highs. >> Those high especially for a fighter when. you're like Justin Gatechi this weekend. who beat Patty Pimble. Crazy fight. That.

guy when it was over the the happiness. that he had, the smile on his face, he. was so I mean he was just in a high like. nothing else in life. It's hard for. those guys to put that away. It's hard. for those guys to let that go. >> Yeah. >> And their identity is completely wrapped. around the fact that they're an elite. fighter. How did you not How did you not. have your identity about your career? Because you I I know you pretty well and. you never really like it's tough to. disconnect your identity to your career. or your dreams or your hopes, which I.

think fighters it's easy to understand. Athletes, it's easy to understand, but I. think it happens with comedians and and. actors and even podcasters to say, "How. did you not do that?". >> Well, I don't know. Um, I recognize the. pitfalls in it, but I also recognize. that at the end of the day, you're just. a human being. And I think, man, I I've. said this a million times and I I'm. sorry I have to repeat it, but I think. brutal workouts are what center me. It's. the one thing that centers me more than. anything in life cuz I do to myself, I.

humble myself all the time. like I break. myself. I break myself down all the time. so that like when life comes or like all. that other stuff seems like something I. do. It's fun. It's great. It's but I'm. just me. I'm just a human being. I'm I'm. me in the 10th round when I want to quit. and the bell goes off and I know I have. to hit the bag for three more minutes, you know? Like I know who I am. Like I. don't need my career to tell me who I am. and I have enough [ __ ] you money that I.

could just sail off into the sunset. Bye-bye. >> Do you think you will? No, >> no, >> no. Why I like this? Yeah, it's fun. I. thought about it. I've thought about a. bunch of things doing different things. If I had multiple lives, I would live a. bunch of different lives. >> Oh, tell me about one. >> I'd be a professional pool player. That's what I I would like to do. Yeah, I'd like to go on the tour, play. professional pool. If I just had like a. year to really practice, I think I could. do it. It's just there's no way. There's. no money, there's no time, there's no.

So, I just have to like keep that one in. my head as a hobby and make sure I don't. get too addicted to it. You know, my. problem is I get addicted to things and. then I just like obsess on them and then. the the weird part of my brain that. focuses obsessively on things, it would. just overcome all the rest of my life. and it would just be this one thing that. I think of. I allow that in bursts. Like. I allow that like when I was getting. ready for my comedy special, my live. special, that was my whole life. I. didn't think about anything else other. than doing that set. Like when I go.

hunting, I don't think about anything. else other than getting in shape, shooting perfect arrows, getting ready. to hunt. I I allow myself these brief. moments of obsession, but I I have to be. careful. I have to be careful with my. brain. >> Your your brain's fascinating. I wish I. listened to you more. Like when we were. younger, you said stuff that I just was. like, that's not right. >> Like what? [laughter]. >> It might not be right for you. That's. the thing. I wish I had you. I remember. I remember one time you're like you're. like you're you're working too hard. You.

should be your focus should be be less. famous. And I was like, "What are you. talking about?" And now I'm there. I'm. like, "Oh, I know exactly what you're. talking about." That's why I took the. Spotify deal. I was hoping I would be. like 10% less famous. That was my idea. I was like, "Good. Less people watch. Spotify, less people listen. How many. people are going to go over there?" Like. Jamie kind of kind of freaked out in the. beginning because we lost half of our. audience like right away. He's like, "We. lost half the crowd." Like, so what? Who. cares? Good. I'll be less famous. I. don't want to be. >> I wanted to be famous so bad.

>> Well, it's because you weren't. Yeah. Right. And so I already was. So I kind. of had a perspective like this isn't. what everybody thinks it is. It's just. weird, you know? Like the glory of it, it's all fake. Like the the people that. love you, they don't even know you. Like. it's kind of crazy. Like the people that. love you should be the people that know. you. [laughter] You know, that's a good. thing. If the people that know you hate. you, but the rest of the world loves. you, then you're in an Ellen position, right? You're in this weird position. where you're a fake person. Yeah. Where. everybody thinks you're one thing, but.

you're actually another thing. So, the. people around you don't like you. And. then when the water breaks and everybody. starts talking, all the staff start. talking [ __ ] about you and you realize. like, oh, she was a monster, you know? So, I think I had the benefit of having. some fame to realize like, oh, this is. not Also, I think about things a lot. I. don't just accept things for what they. are. Something's happening. I'm like, "Okay, but what is this really? What is. this really?". >> You did listen a little because I. remember the one time I called you when. you were on a motorcycle in Vietnam.

>> and I was like, "Bro, you got to quit. that job." And you're like, "What?" And. I was like, "You got you're a funny. comic, man. You're a funny dude. You're. great on podcast. You don't need to do. this. Like, the world's changed. This is. holding you back. >> Thank God. Thank God." You know, it's. like I always say like, "Thank God I had. the right people in my life at the right. times because I there's so much about. like like I'll tell you like, you know, with the blood clot thing, they said, you know, I I never every time I got. sober, it was always to like just prove. I could get sober for a month, you know, right? >> And just be like, I'll take a break, get.

healthy, get good blood work, I'm back. at it.". >> This is the first time I've ever looked. at it like I'd never looked at how often. I was disrespectful to my health. like. how often I was like like get in the. airport and be like drinking at six in. the morning like [ __ ] it, you know? And. then I go and now that I'm flying I'm. forced to fly sober. I get in the. airport and I go I'll have egg whites. >> Egg whites? You need the yolk. >> No, you can't have too much iron when. you're on blood thinners. Yeah, I know. This whole [ __ ] thing is nightmare. But they said sober for 6 months and.

then I and then I had a really. interesting conversation with with my. trainer and with Leanne over this. conversation. And they were like, "You. know what's so funny is they don't see. my lifestyle is partying and everything. is disrespectful to my health because I. work out, because I get blood work, because I I'm sober for every now." They. were saying it's disrespectful to people. that don't that just stay online and. scroll and don't live their life. That's. what's disrespectful. >> Well, how so? Like if if you if you're. just like you come home and you lock.

into video games and you don't go out. and you don't really connect with people. and then you wake up and you scroll for. three hours and then you light a. cigarette and you go to work and you. come home and you play video games, you're not living your life. And they're. like Leanne was saying the other day she. was like, you know, don't don't like like get excited to. start drinking again, but make sure that. that you can measure that. You know, >> get excited to start drinking again is a. wild thing to say. Oh, I'm I mean I'm. looking. >> But how is it disrespectful to people. that are watching you? >> No, no, no, no. I meant I meant, you.

know, people that aren't living like. people that are leaving comments and. like [ __ ] on girls skateboarding. going, "You should wear a bra whore.". Like guys that aren't living their life. and not spending their time out with. family and and living their life. >> So, what's disrespectful to them? >> What? I'm lost. >> You said it's disrespectful to. >> No, no. They're they're disrespecting. their own life by not living. >> Okay. >> By not getting in the gym, not going. out, not going and having dinner with. your wife. How is your life you. disrespecting your health doing anything. to them? >> No. No. I think I was just two.

parallels. Like I I was looking at. health thinking in hindsight like how. many times I just, you know, burned the. candle at both ends. Didn't think like. how off how fragile life actually is. >> Oh [snorts] yeah. Well, you're very. durable. Unfortunately, that's part of. the problem is you were able to do that. and show no bad health markers. Like you. were drinking all the time. You got your. blood work done. Your liver's fine. You're like, "Look at this. That's. great. Like you were I remember you were. super nervous like when you first. started getting blood work, but then. you're like it turns out it's fine. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. You you have great genetics, you.

know, >> but you think I think now I go, man, I'm. like my my grandfather died at 53. >> and I I'm 53. >> and I go and then you start seeing. people die and you're like [ __ ] man. >> Yeah. >> Like this blood clot scared the [ __ ] out. of me because people die from this. They. die from it. It's not It's no joke. And. then you're like, >> "Well, [ __ ] that was just me flying.". Did they make you do a D- dimer test? >> No. >> So D-dimer test is when they test your. body for clots for microclots. So. apparently a lot of people that got a.

ton of boosters Yeah. >> got they they have microclots. And this. is one of the things. There was a. Canadian doctor that one of was was one. of the first guys to get cancelled for. saying that the vaccine was causing. clots because he was one of the first. guys that was doing a d-dimer test on. all of his patients. And he found out. that his vaccinated patients, the vast. majority of them were having these. microclots all throughout their system. And it was being caused in his opinion. by the vaccine. And boy, eventually his.

business wound up getting burnt to the. ground. He got he lost his medical. license. He lost his practice. It was a. crazy story and he was right. He was. right. And now it's pretty mainstream. like that discussion of it. And you know. even doctors who used to prescribe. boosters don't prescribe them anymore. which is kind of crazy. Oh yeah. Like at. what point in time like the people that. are that used to say you need to get. your booster. Well how come you're not. getting boosters anymore? Co's still.

around. Those people aren't getting. boosters. No one's getting boosters. anymore. None of those people are. >> Are they saying that we have a higher. antibbody rate now? Is like why is CO. not as dangerous today as it was then? >> Well, the thing that happens with. viruses is they become less potent but. more transmissible. And that becoming. more transmissible allows the virus to. spread. And being less potent means it. doesn't kill the host. So it's actually. better for the virus to be more. transmissible but less potent. And that. generally happens in time when people.

develop antibodies and people develop, you know, like a resistance to it. So. what happens is the virus just becomes. easier to transmit but less potent. >> Oh wow. >> Yeah. That's why the variants over time. got less and less. Like the delta. variant was actually pretty strong but. after that they started dropping off and. then omnicron which is pretty nothing. and then they stopped naming them. because it really wasn't just a couple. variants. There's there's hundreds of. them. They don't even know how many. And. a lot of it is because they vaccinated.

during a pandemic. And one of the things. that viologists throughout history were. always saying is you never vaccinate. during a pandemic because when you. vaccinate during a pandemic, you. actually encourage variance because the. vaccine realizes especially when you. have a leaky vaccine like COVID. So what. a leaky vaccine is a vaccine that. doesn't stop transmission and doesn't. stop infection. What it does is it it. gives you some protection through. antibodies, but that allows you to get.

the the cold and the then the cold. realizes, oh, this guy's got these. antibodies. We'll just work around that. And then people who had antibodies to. the original wild virus once they got. vaccinated they they this this variant. would see that they were or wouldn't see. but it would have a different pathway. because the the the. original immunity was to the wild virus. The the original antibodies was to the.

first virus that doesn't even exist. anymore. So your body didn't recognize. these new variants. So people get COVID. even more easily. I know I butchered. that if you're a viologist, but there's. a guy named Gear Vanderbos. um and he is a a vaccine specialist. He's a viologist and one of his and his. he specializes in vaccines and he was. one of the early people saying this is. madness. This goes against conventional. thinking. You do not vaccinate during a. pandemic.

>> Jesus. I I'll tell you what, I've I had. CO a bunch. Nothing was like the swine. flu. >> Yeah, you told me that. Remember in. 2009, right? Dude, you got it bad. >> I had I thought I was going to die. I. mean, I've never been that sick [snorts]. in my life. Shallow breathing. Uh, I I. mean it was I I and I was in I had to. fly to Mexico cuz I was doing a gig and. I and I was like I got on the plane, I. always drank on planes, had two drinks. and I was like I was like I'm a death. store and I [ __ ] to this day I've.

never been that sick in my life and I. don't know how it didn't kill me. >> You never drink when you're sick. >> Oh no [ __ ]. >> It is the worst. It's so bad for your. immune system to drink when you're sick. cuz you just give your your immune. system this new thing to fight while. it's already involved in a fight. >> Yeah. got I got on the plane with. Leanne. We were flying to Mexico and I. was like, I'm not that bad. I remember. being cold. I remember it hit me like a. ton of bricks that night. I was like, I'm getting [ __ ] sick immediately. Like it it was like bam. And. >> back then [clears throat] you weren't. even taking vitamins.

>> No, I wasn't doing anything. >> Yeah, that's the problem. And this is. the other thing that the big problem. that I had during the COVID thing is. like I knew people were getting over. COVID. It wasn't killing everybody and. they were making it out like everybody. was going to get it was going to die. everybody unvaccinated was going to die. But I knew people that got it and. weren't the healthiest people and they. were fine. So I'm like, well, what the. hell's going on? Like, what is it? And. how come nobody's talking about. vitamins? Nobody's talking about the. impact that vitamins have on your immune. system, which is well documented. And.

then if you brought it up, you're a. conspiracy theorist. You're a crazy. person. >> But everyone listen because you brought. up I'll never forget the day you brought. up vitamin D. >> Yeah. And I went to write aid that day. to get vitamin D and it was gone. I mean. the [ __ ] It was like it had been. looted. >> There was no vitamin D to be found and. it was like I think it was like D3 or. something. >> D3 and K2. The two of them with. magnesium is the the move. D3, K2, and.

magnesium. >> all together. Do you know what's so. funny? I have rosacea on my cheeks. Um I. guess got it you get it when you're. older sometimes. And the cure is. ivormectin. >> That's hilarious. >> They were like, "You should get on. ivormectton." I was like I said, "You. mean horse tranquilizer?". >> Horse paste. >> Horse paste. >> Yeah. Horse dewormer. Yeah. Like what. CNN called it. >> But it's so great. It was the first. thing. They're like, "Have you have you. ever heard of ivormectton?" I was like, "I'm friends with Joe Rogan. Are you. kidding me? [laughter]. >> Don't put me on CNN. They'll make me. purple.". >> Yeah. Well, the crazy thing about that.

CNN thing is I mentioned a bunch of. other things that I took. All of them. were very effective. It wasn't one thing. that I mentioned. I mentioned IV. vitamins. I me and I I took IV NAD IV. vitamins and then the big one was. monoconal antibodies and monoconal. antibodies. They made it really hard for. people to get after that because people. were just saying, "Oh, I just need to. get monoconal antibodies and I'm. better." Bro, I shipped monocon. There. was we were using a tele medicine um. nurse and there was a part of a um like.

a na nationwide service that you could. send people a nurse and they would go. deliver monoconal antibodies and IV. vitamins and the monocon the IV vitamins. thing always existed but the monoconal. antibodies they added to it once COVID. came and I can't tell you how many. people that I sent nurses to people that. I didn't even know people that were. friends of friends, my mom's friend, my. and I'd say, "Give me the address, tell. me who they are, and I'll send it to.

them." And I paid for all of it. And I. did it to like at least 100 people. No. [ __ ] At least 100 people. Yeah. Actors who were like like super liberal. I didn't out any of them. They would. send me a DM. Hey man, I got COVID. What. should I do? And I said, "Where are you? Tell me where you where you live. I'm. going to have someone sent to you." And. I I just send someone to them. And then. they'd come back and thank me. Very few. of them ever thanked me publicly, but a. lot of them got the service. And a lot. of people that weren't famous people,

just like my friend's mom or my mom or. my uncle or my cousin, someone got co. they're doing really bad. I'm like, "Tell me where they are." And and I did. it I'm I'm not lying. I did it to like a. hundred people. I spent a lot of money. doing that. >> How much does How much would something. like that cost? >> Thousands of dollars. >> For real. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I did it for. people I didn't know. I did it for. people I had never met. I did it for. people that were famous that I never. met. I just I just said it was easier to. me for just to send them to them. >> Leanne was the first person to get CO in.

our house. and uh I had a joke I used to have a. joke about it. She had CO and she gave. me a hand job and I didn't get it. I was. like that's how intimate our hand jobs. are. >> That's hilarious. >> And uh she got it and I remember doing I. remember I called you and you were like. get her the NAD that you gave me the. whole [ __ ] list and we got it. She. got over it right away. We ended up. right away and we're like, "Cool, we can. go skiing.". >> No, no, no, no. >> And then we all got it. We all got it. >> You're not ready yet. You. >> Georgia gave it to me and she goes, she. I remember we were at the.

>> George gave it to me and I remember we. were sitting at the dinner table that. night at our ski place and she was like. started crying. I go, "Baby, don't cry. It's fine. Listen, it's totally fine.". She was like, "You're high risk.". [laughter]. >> You got to think of it as like it's. over. the bad part's over, but now your. body's in recovery. So, you can't go. skiing or do anything crazy. >> I went skiing. I remember skiing that. first day with COVID thinking, you know, it's just me. The mountain was empty. I. was like, it's just me. I don't really. have it. I'm fine. I tested negative. I.

remember I tested negative. I was like, I'm just hung over from last night. And. when I got down, I tested again. And I. tested positive. And I already had my. tour bus come and grab Georgia and. Leanne and drive them back to LA. So, it's me and Isa. And Isa was like, >> I only got it because I stayed up late. one night drinking and playing pool till. like 5:00 in the morning with my friend. John Showman. >> I remember you tell I remember you. telling me that. You're like, it's more. you said you were more run down. That's. why you got it. >> I was exhausted cuz uh my friend John he.

John Showman, shout out to John. He's uh. he makes pool cues like awesome pool. cues and he lives in Florida and I'd you. know talked to him back and forth online. but I never hung out with him. And then. I made a appointment to meet him at a. pool hall. And we met at this pool hall. and we played pool till like five. o'clock in the morning laughing, having. a good time. And then um I got back to. the hotel. I was like really tired. I. was like, "Boy, I [ __ ] up. I went so. hard." Like we were out and I had a. bunch of margaritas and it was late, you. know, it was late [clears throat] at. night and then in the morning I just. felt like [ __ ] I took a hot bath. I.

felt like [ __ ] I had a gig that night. I did a a gig that night. I did an arena. with uh Tony Henchcliffe and Laura. Bites. We did an arena in Florida and. then I flew back home and on the way. home I was cold. I was like God why am I. so cold? Is this airplane cold and then. I when I got home I told my wife I'm. like I'm not feeling good. I go I might. have CO. Maybe you should sleep in. another room cuz she had gotten CO and. gotten over it. Which by the way when. she had it I [ __ ] her. I didn't I. didn't even think about I was like I'm. trying to get it. I never got it. My. whole family got it. But like I'm always.

been the one who's like always v always. cold plunging, always sauna, always. vitamins, always working out. She works. out too, but it's like. >> she got it, you know, and my kids got. it. And I was home, I hugged them like, "Daddy, you're going to get him." I'm. like, "I'm not getting shit." I never. got it. I had two days when I worked out. where I didn't feel that good. So when I. worked out, I just took it light. I just. just went through the routine like nice. and easy, not pushing myself. And then. the next day, still don't feel that. good. Nice and easy. don't put. And then. the third day I'm like, I feel pretty.

[ __ ] good. And I went pretty hard. I'm like, feel great. And it was done. I. never got CO. And then that one time I. got it. And then I didn't get it that. bad. The one day I felt like [ __ ] I got. all the the meds and then, you know, a. couple days later I made that video and. I put that video up. But that was. honest. I was like, I got CO. I got all. this medicine. I feel better now. They. didn't like the idea that this healthy. person was saying you you could get over. this. and also a healthy person that's. in their 50s was saying you can get over.

this and you don't need this radical. experimental medicine that they're. trying to push on people. And so that. that's just another example of the. mainstream media that's not there for. the news because if they really were. there to inform people, they would say, "Well, what did he do? What what what's. different about him?" Because they're. [ __ ] compromised. They're all. compromised by the people that pay their. advertising budget. the the amount of. money that pharmaceutical drug companies. spend on mainstream media is [ __ ]. preposterous. And they don't do it.

because they're trying to convince. people to sell drugs. They do it. specifically because they don't want. those media organizations to criticize. any vaccines or any pharmaceutical. drugs. You never hear them talking about. there's no mainstream big media stories. about side effects of some sort of new. medication. And if there is, it's. because that company's probably about to. go under and a new company is asking. them to talk about it. >> It makes me I I mean I' I've always said. and people think I'm a [ __ ] idiot, but I don't trust sleep apnea machines.

>> Well, sleep apnea machines work. >> I know, but I think they overdiagnose. sleep apnea machines because there's a. kickback. There's got to be a kickback. >> Well, there probably is. There's a You. know, look, sleep apnea is a real thing. and it's really [ __ ] dangerous. >> But is it is it as me I mean, >> people die. Everyone's got it. >> Well, not everyone has it. A lot of. people snore, but there's ways around. There's mouth pieces you can use to keep. your tongue from closing your windpipe. You know what I do? I put a mouth piece. I put a mouthpiece in and then I use. mouth tape. I've been using mouth tape.

You know, like you know hostage tape. Yeah. I use that stuff. I put it over my. mouth and I sleep and I breathe through. my nose. >> and I feel so much better when I wake. up. I mean significantly better with. less sleep. Like if I have five hours. sleep with hostage shape, I feel better. than if I have eight hours sleep without. it. >> Really? >> 100%. >> See, I. >> you feel different. I don't know why. I'm sure. Okay, let's find out. What is. the science behind breathing through. your nose while you sleep? Why why is it.

better? Like what is the science behind. it? I don't know what the science is, but I know that a bunch of health. experts, they they recommended it to me. I was like, tape my mouth shut. That. sounds so stupid. >> Yeah, >> I did it. And then the first night I did. it, I woke up and I'm like, "Whoa, I. feel great." Like I feel significantly. better. And now I do it every night. So. I put a mouthpiece in and then I put the. hostage tape over my mouth. >> So the mouthpiece just holds your tongue. in place. >> Exactly. Cuz I have a big tongue. I have. a big tongue and I have a big neck. The.

problem is when you have big neck. muscles, all like football players, a. lot of them, most of them have sleep. apnnea because all those those. [clears throat] muscles that constrict. the wall the walls of your your throat. So like there's all this tissue that. didn't exist before and then you have. this fat tongue. So I can't sleep on my. back. If I sleep on my back, it's like. >> that's me. >> Yeah. Okay. Breathing through the nose. during sleep offers key health. advantages over mouth breathing. It. filters and conditions air for better. lung efficiency and promotes deeper.

rest. Nasal passages filter dust, allergens, and pollutants while warming. and humidifying air protecting the. airway waves from irritation. Uh this. reduces dryness in the mouth and throat. common with mouth breathing. >> I got that. I wake up my mouth's so dry. my my tongue's like a finger. >> Reduce snoring and sleep apnnea risk. Nose breathing keeps the tongue. positioned correctly against the pallet. and jaw forward. Maintaining an open. airway that minimize snoring and sleep. apnnea episodes. Mouth breathing allows. the tongue to fall back obstructing air.

flow which definitely happens to me. Improved oxid oxination Jesus ox o o o o. o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o. o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o. oxygenation and relaxation. It boosts. nitric oxide production for better. oxygen uptake and blood flow, supporting. deeper sleep cycles and parasympathetic. nervous system activation for. relaxation. This leads to fewer. awakenings and higher sleep quality. Look, for me, I know for a fact it it it. helps for a fact. >> From my my personal feeling, when I wake. up in the morning and I tape my mouth.

shut, I feel way better. >> Really? >> Yeah. Like way better. >> I snore like crazy, but I I don't I. don't notice it. >> The only problem is you have a beard. So, the tape like will slip off with a. beard, you know? >> Maybe I'll just get denture cream and. put it on my lips. >> You ever do that? [laughter] We used to. do that people when they were sleeping. >> Squeeze your lips together without How. do you open them then? Oh, you can't. >> Oh, Jesus. >> When people would pass out in our. fraternity house, we put denture cream. on their lips. Oh, boy. >> And then they wake up like. that's [ __ ] terrifying. >> Terrible. That's terrible.

>> I'm I'm still kind of stuck. I'm I'm. still stuck on this concept that [sighs]. >> with corporate money, we lose not as. much freedom of speech of freedom of. opinion. Well, you lose objective. reality from people that are supposed to. be giving you information, right? So, they're not giving you reality. What. they're giving you is a filtered. narrative that has been promoted by. major corporations that have a vested. interest in profiting off of this. narrative being pushed forward. Like if.

you don't get the vaccine, you're going. to die, right? Yeah, that was a big one. And that was why they attacked me. Why. they attacked me was because like I. showed that there's something different. Like oh look at this healthy guy who's. in his 50s that's really obsessed with. health, works out every day and look how. quick he got over COVID. Well, this. isn't this thing that we're pretending. it is. We're pretending it's the plague. It's not. It's like a bad flu. >> And again, for me, it was like, and. look, I've done this for, like I said, I. did it for a lot of people, but just IV.

vitamins. I've I've sent people to. people. I did it for Bill Burr. Bill. Burr was here and he was sick and he was. coughing. And this is like long after. the pandemic. It's like 2024. And he was. doing a show and I came to visit him. He's like, "I can't get over this cold.". I go, "Listen to me." I go, "I'm gonna. give you this number. I'm gonna give you. these people. You're going to get a hold. of them and schedule an IV mega dose. vitamin drip. You want high doses of. vitamin B. You want high doses of D. You. want high doses of C and zinc. You want. all those things together and I.

guarantee you you're going to be fine. So he was sick for weeks. He couldn't. get over this [ __ ] cough. He calls me. like a day later. He goes, "Dude, I. can't [ __ ] believe how good I feel.". He goes, "Dr. Joe Rogan, I'm calling you. every time I have a problem with this. again." And look, I did the same thing. for Dana White. When Dana White had CO, he threw some eucalyptus on the rocks in. his sauna and he couldn't smell it. And. he goes, "Oh my god, I got CO." He. [laughter] goes, "The first thing I did. is called Joe Rogan." He called me up. and I said, "I'll set you up. We're.

going to get you monoconal antibodies. We're going to get you this. We're going. to get you that." Boom. One day later, he's better. That's the reality. It's. like your body needs tools to let your. immune system function at its at its. optimum. And the one of the best tools. is nutrients. >> Vitamin D is amazing for your immune. system. And it's not just a vitamin. It's a hormone. And it's a hormone that. we don't get because we're not in the. sun enough. That's what the best way to. get vitamin D is sunlight. The second. best way is supplementation. And it's.

really easy. You just take vitamin D. supplements. Take it with K2, which. makes it absorb better. And I take it. also again with magnesium. And do that. And I also took zinc with um uh what is. that stuff called? Uh it's an ionor um. corsetin. So I take zinc with corsetin. Corsetin aids in the the zinc absorption. in your body. I I take all these. different things. But I also I'm like. I'm on the ball. I know what I'm doing.

But [clears throat] they didn't say. that. They said he's taking horse. dewormer because they were trying to. shame me and they were trying to make it. look like I was a fool. and they were. trying to turn all these people that. were terrified about dying from this. plague against me. >> Is that what's happening? I mean, I'm a. little obsessed lately, you know, at. like the the money behind podcasting and. podcasting kind of changing, you know, like podcasting has gotten a little more. corporate where the where I I feel I. don't know if you see it. >> in what way?

>> Well, it's like uh I mean, I looked at. the Golden Globes and who was nominated. and those were all I mean, I think. they're all, you know, corporate. podcasts. >> Yeah. Let me let me help with that. Um, so here's the thing. Like a lot of. people say, "Why wasn't Joe Rogan. nominated for the Golden Globes?" And. like, "Why did you know Amy Polar went?". I didn't submit. [laughter]. So, they asked me to submit to be. nominated for the Golden Globes, and you. had to pay $500. And the $500 is like. for paperwork or whatever. I said, "No.".

Like, I don't care. I already won. Like, you can't tell me I didn't win. I've. been number one for six years in a row. All of a sudden, you're going to have a. contest in front of all these people. wearing tuxedos and you're going to say, "Now I'm not number one." Like, [ __ ]. off. >> You can't like I don't care that I'm. number one, but I am in fact number one. So, if all of a sudden you have a. contest to decide who's really number. one amongst us. >> Like, that's amongst you. You're allowed. to have your opinion. You like Amy Polar. better than me, that's great. >> Oh, that's so [ __ ] funny. Joe, do you.

know how many people have been like ride. or die for you? Like the fact that Joe. Rogan didn't win. The fact that And I've. heard that so much that It's so funny. you just didn't submit. >> Yeah, they asked me to. >> Yeah, I was like one of like six. candidates. It's They took the top. people. They basically just took the top. people of the charts, but which, you. know, it's fine. >> First of all, Amy Puller's podcast is. pretty good. >> I haven't seen it. >> It's pretty good. >> I'm sure it's good. It won. I'm sure. someone must love it. It sucked. They.

would give it to someone else, right? >> Dax is really good. Like there's there's. some great podcast who was even. nominated. I don't even know who was in. I just know that Amy Puller won and a. lot of people are upset. She's had a. podcast for six months and she won. Great. You gave it to a famous person. which you know in that world that's what. they do. They give it to per a person. that like is going to look you give it. to Amy Polar amongst their circles. It's. not going to have any criticism. Look, there's a lot of really good [ __ ]. podcasts. There's some great. >> I don't know if amongst her group, if I.

listen to all of them, I would decide. that hers is number one. But I just know. that I didn't submit. I don't want to be. a part of that. I don't care. You're. just a group of people that just decide. all of a sudden that you're going to. give an award out. You got a you get a. trophy. [ __ ] off, dude. I this Okay. Like, so when we did the. show and everyone's like, "Are you. looking for a season two?" And I. obviously that would be great, but you. know what I said to Leanne the day after. it came out? I said, "I think I already. won. I think I like I got everything I.

wanted. I did something I'm proud of and. and people responding to it. People like. the texts I get are people that will. never pro promote it on their social.". >> Ron White loves it. >> Ron loved it. >> When Ron came in last night. >> and the first thing he said to me was, "I watched your show. I watched every. [ __ ] episode.". >> Yeah. He binged it. He binged it with. his girlfriend. I was like, "Joe, you. know how I feel about Ron. I'll get. emotional." He's like, "And Ron's not a. [ __ ] artist. If Ron loved it, he. loved it." And he came in and he was. ranting and raving about it. That's all.

you need. Just do your best. All these. awards and all this [ __ ] Awards for art. are crazy. >> It's insane because it's not It. shouldn't be a competition. >> Well, it's also so subjective. There is. music that like my daughter loves. It is. her favorite music, but she's a. 15year-old girl. [laughter]. I can't say it sucks cuz it doesn't. suck. It's just not for me. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? It's like that's. why awards for art are crazy. Like this.

is the best. Like to who? To a group of. [ __ ] people that we deem the. gatekeepers of all that's appropriate. Like. >> So when did you come because you know. I'm I'm always fascinated by you. When. did you care about ratings when you were. on news radio? >> Oh no. Well, the news radio thing was. hilarious because that's one that I can. say for people that haven't watched it, I I would say binge that show. It was. such an amazing piece of of art. We. would say, but o always and respectfully.

always in the losing category. Like. never always. >> always in the losing category. >> My friend Lou, he was one of the writers. on on news radio and he would show up. for the table read with a t-shirt that. had the number of our rating on it. And. one day he showed up and the number was. 88. And I was like 88. He's like. [laughter] I'm like [ __ ]. I was like God because we got moved nine. times over the course of 5 years. >> Like I remember like one of the things. that just like social media poisons.

people back then it was Variety and the. Hollywood Reporter. So all of the cast. would be sitting around reading variety. about how good Sex in the City was doing. and the single guy and you know because. they would they would sandwich them in. between Friends and Seinfeld and you. know Paul Sims the producer of news. radio would call it a [ __ ] sandwich. because you would have these two really. good shows in between these shows that. were not that good. >> They would call it Caroline and the. Shitty and it like everybody was upset. and so they would read these these.

things in Variety. They'd look at the. ratings and they'd get all upset and. start getting pissed off and that show. sucks. Why is that show doing so well? Why aren't we on Thursday night? And I I. remember saying, "Go, last time I. checked, I'm on TV." I go, "Do you know. we're on a TV show? Do you know how few. people get to be on a sitcom?" I go, "Yeah, we're not number one." Well, good. Then no one knows who we are and. we get to be on TV and we get to have. fun and some people enjoy it. We're. making so much money. Like, how can you. be upset? We could not be on TV. Like,

yeah, we're not number one. Yeah, we. have a really good show that's not being. recognized. It eventually was recognized. when it went to syndication. So, news. radio really only got popular in. syndication. >> Oh, when it was on A&E, buddy, I don't. think I've ever enjoyed a TV show out of. every TV show I've ever watched. And I I. was late to Friends. Look, it was it was. no Game of Thrones, but or or even Queen. of Dragons or whatever the [ __ ] the. other one, House of Dragons. Yeah, that's a pretty good show, too. But when. I discovered news radio, I was like, you. guys had every character. Like it was.

not just one character. It was five. different. >> Are we back? >> Yeah, we're back. >> We've we've been having this problem. where we crash like a couple hours into. a podcast. But it was such you it was it. was five personalities, six. personalities all working in in in union. different at different speeds every such. a [ __ ] great show. >> Well, Paul Sims came from the Larry. Sanders show, so he was really good, you.

know, and it was just a brilliant guy. and the writers were amazing and the. cast was amazing, but it was the perfect. scenario. So, we went through it without. everyone getting famous. We put together. a great show and then we [ __ ] sailed. off into the sunset. It was perfect for. me because I never wanted to do it again. once it was over. For real? >> Yeah. I didn't I mean I took a few. development deals afterwards just cuz I. wanted the money and I thought maybe. I'll make my own show and it'll be good. But gh working with these writers and. like some of these some of these writing.

teams was really interesting. Writing. teams are generally one brilliant guy. and then the other guy who writes things. down and then they both get deals and. then I would wind up with the guy who. wrote things down. So I got one of these. writers who was a writing team on. Seinfeld and the team broke up and then. I got this guy and he wrote this [ __ ]. script. It was so bad. It was so bad. I. couldn't believe how bad it was. I was. like and then they were trying to. pretend they're excited about I go did. you read it? I this is [ __ ] terrible. Because the problem was I'd come from.

News Radio which was a really good show. and [clears throat] most of these shows. are terrible and most of the guys that I. knew that were doing terrible sitcoms. were living in hell. >> because they were doing these like corny. ass and all they wanted to do is like. figure out a way to make themselves feel. better. So they spend money or they. party and that's what they were doing. They were all just partying and spending. money and not enjoying their work. Their. work was terrible. It was hell. So, I. kind of realized early on that this trap. of like chasing the number one ratings.

and all that [ __ ] It was just stupid. It was just nonsense. And then, you. know, Fear Factor was number one for a. while, I think. I think it was. It was. hugely popular, whatever it was. And. that was weird, too. It's like, well, that's that's also strange now talk. about it and everybody it was just like. this thing that was everywhere. It was. very strange. >> This is how you can tell how big a show. is. Tell me if I'm wrong. I can remember. what night it aired on Monday nights. >> Uh, Fear Factor. >> Was it Monday nights? >> I don't remember. I think it was Monday.

>> I don't remember. >> I remember The Fresh Prince of Bair was. Monday nights. [laughter]. >> I remember Seinfeld was Thursdays, right? >> Yeah. >> That's the thing about about uh TV now, which is so bizarre, is like. >> when when I pitched this show, I Have. you seen Slow Horses? >> Yes. I love it. So when I went to when I. went to Netflix, they were like, "We. want to do a show with you." I was like, "Great.". >> And they're like, "What's the show?" I. says, "It's my family. It's I'm Bert. Chryser, George and Isla, Leanne. I'm a.

comedian. I'm me. I'm Everything's the. same. Nothing changes. I don't have a. job. I'm this guy.". >> And they're like, "Okay." I go, "But it. it's uh meet slow horses." And they're. like, "What the [ __ ] are you talking. about?" I said, "All I can tell you is I. don't want to do episodic. I want slow. horses." I said when I watch slow and. this is why Ron's compliment was so kind. because I c I created the show so that. me Jared and Andy I should. >> explain Slow Horses. >> Slow Horses is Gary Oldman. It is a spy. thriller. They're a group of of like.

lowgrade spies that all kind of got put. into an office off to the side and but. they don't realize how important their. office still is. They're still very. ingrained in all the [ __ ] that the big. office is doing, but they're the B team. And so the big office is constantly. [ __ ] with the little office. And. >> so how is your show like Slow Horses? >> The day I watched Slow I'd watched Slow. Horses the week before I went in for. this meeting and I watched the the first. episode of Slow Horses. And at the very. end of that first episode, I hit pause. I looked at Leanne. I said, "We're.

watching every [ __ ] episode until. it's over right now. We're not moving. We're going to watch all of them." And I. did that with that and Black Doss. And I. said to Netflix, I said, I want to make. this where that first episode, it's not. episodic. The Chrysers get a horse, the. Chrysers get a dog. >> It all goes together. >> I go, the first episode at that last. line I say, the very last line of that. first episode, I want you to look at the. person you're with and go, I'm watching. all [ __ ] six. >> And uh and so it's an arc. It's a six. story arc. It's basically. >> a two hour and 30 minute movie that you.

can stop at any point. And and the. compliment I've been getting is the one. Ron gave me is like, I binged it. I. watched all of it. >> That's great. That's a smart move for a. comedy to do it like that. Like it's one. big story, you know. >> That last that last. >> Black Doss is great, too. >> Black Doss. >> Great, >> dude. Black Doss. Black Doss. When we. when we did the premiere and in LA, Netflix came up to me and shout out to. Netflix and they were like, you know, when you pitched this, we had no idea. what you were [ __ ] selling us. Like. when you said Black Doss and and Slow. Horses, like that those were your comps.

And then they were like, we watched that. first episode. And they're like, "You. [ __ ] did it." Like, you made a show. where at that very end of that first. episode, at that moment, and the very. beginning of the second episode, I have. a joke about you, but uh I thought I'd. throw one in. You th you gave me a. little love in your special. I give. [laughter] you a little love back. And. so, at the very end of that first. episode, I wanted it so that you go, "Oh, this guy's [ __ ] I got to see how. he gets out of this.". >> And uh and that's the the compliment. I've been getting from people is that.

they watched all of them. They binged. it. And that's like I was like cuz you. know you try to do something a little. different. >> And uh and that's why when you said that. you didn't submit I [ __ ] connected so. hard cuz I was like I I didn't I don't. need it to be it's not going to be the. number one show on Netflix. It's never. going to be the the greatest show they. ever made. There's too many good shows. But the fact that people have liked it I. go I think I won. I think I got the. thing I wanted was just like I got I got. a tech I got a text. I I'm going to.

share this and I apologize Luke if this. sounds weird. Luke Colmes texted me last. night. Now he's not like a he's you know. he's [clears throat] not a social media. guy. He just texted me. He's like, "Dude, I just watched your entire show.". Luke Colmes. And I'm like, >> he's cool as [ __ ]. >> He's cool. >> I've hung out with that dude a few times. >> as [ __ ] And he's understated. He's the. guy. He's fascinating to me because he's. a guy, we just did a podcast. He's the. guy that he goes into the room and he's. not going to talk to anyone cuz he. doesn't want to bother you. He's one of. the biggest stars in country music. He's. one of the most talented guys.

>> and he's very humble and he's like I did. the CAMAs and I saw him and he just he. stays to himself. He doesn't and I was. like wow what a slick dude and he's like. no I'm not trying to be slick I just. don't want to bother anybody. Yeah. >> And so when Luke Colmes texted me last. night I [ __ ] I texted Leanne. I was. like can you believe like that's not the. guy you think. >> right? It's a real compliment not from. like a cheesy ass kisser dude. >> He really you know he's not lying. He. really liked it. >> The first person to text was Chris. Dphano and that's a real one. He's like,

"Dude, you're you're a good actor. This. is a great series." That was the very. first text I got and I was like, "Comics. don't have to text. They don't we don't. like like I texted Shane when I saw. Tires cuz it's [ __ ] it was game. changer." I was like, "This is [ __ ]. incredible." Whatever. But when a comic. text, you're like, "That's okay." Like, I didn't I didn't expect you to watch. it. But Luke Holmes [ __ ] floored me. Luke Clolomes and Bradley Cooper was. another one. >> That's awesome. Just do something that.

you enjoy and do your best at it. This. idea of awards. >> Yeah. >> Like [ __ ] off. >> [ __ ] off with your awards like that. It's like there's so many moments in in. history have been defined by these like. goofy ass awards. >> Yeah. >> Like what? What is that? >> The only thing that's good is it like if. something wins an Academy Award for best. movie, I go maybe I'll see it like. occasionally. But you know what's better. than that? one of my friends saying it's. great dude. >> you know and or someone posting on. social media like oh this [ __ ] someone.

that I respect on social media posting. it and saying hey you need to watch this. this is amazing. >> do you ever see the movie American movie. >> what is that. >> it's about the two guys in Wisconsin. trying to make a horror film called. coven. I think I did this a long time ago. >> long time ago documentary and there one. guy's done way too much acid. >> and it's just it's like one of those. movies where someone says to you you. have to see this. >> and it's never going to win an award. Probably made no money, but it is the.

most fascinating. Okay, Jamie, can you. pull the trailer up for that? If you if. you see this, you'll go, I've saw it. >> Okay. >> It's the American movie Mike. Oh, what. was the other guys? Oh, this is so good. Joe card, >> imagine a world where passion and. perseverance outweigh polish and dreams. are both the driving force and the. destination. What if I told you this. world exists? Not in some far-flung. fantasy, but here in the heartland of. America. >> This world is seen through the lens of. an unsung documentary where we meet Mark.

Bochart. filmmaker from Wisconsin. >> This is No, I didn't see this. >> Joe, this movie, >> maybe [snorts] I did. I don't know. >> Is so good. But it's one of those things. that it's like when you find something. that you just fall in love with like. Yeah. like uh that that you can't. explain to someone like Vernon, Florida. Have you ever seen Vernon Florida? >> No. >> It's a documentary by Verer Herzog about. it was trying to him and another guy. another guy did it. He was trying to do.

a documentary called Nub City, right? It. was about this place in Florida where a. lot of people had lost limbs and were. collecting insurance money. >> And he went in to do a documentary about. that and he got his life threatened but. he had all this footage. So I think. Verer Herzog came in and dumped a little. money in it and he just made the. bizarest documentary about a guy talking. about turkey hunting and another guy. talking about like it's like four. different personalities. Joe, it's on. YouTube. You can find it. Herszog does.

some amazing [ __ ]. >> Amazing [ __ ] This thing Joe is like. something you start watching and you go. like I can't turn it off. >> I mean he did Grizzly Man. He did uh. [sighs] [ __ ] what is that other one? Um the one about the cave paintings in. France he did say. >> it was made by Errol Morris. >> Errol Morris wasn't Warner Herszog. >> No no he was. >> trying to highlight on there. It says. it's an Errol Morris film. >> Oh so it's not Warner. >> No Vernog backed it. He was the one that. paid for it. I see. I see.

>> He produced it. >> He was also Werner Herszog was a part of. that movie Happy People. You ever see. that? >> No. Was that. >> Oh my god. It's about these people that. live in Siberia. these these guys that. live in a small village in Siberia and. they're just fishermen and trappers and. hunters and they they basically just. live off the land and and they're so. happy. There's like no mental illness. Everybody works really hard. It's. freezing cold at night. They're always. drinking and everyone's happy like and. it's called Happy People Life in the.

Tiger. It's a great documentary because. it just shows you that like without. struggle you will create struggle and. when you have struggle all the time like. physical struggle people seem to be. satisfied and happy especially when. they're living off the land living like. a subsistence lifestyle. They're out in. the forest. They're catching fish and. it's it's a great documentary. It's. really interesting. >> Did you feel it? Cuz I remember we went. to birthday party at your house and your. wife introduced my girls and Leanne to. chickens. >> Mhm. >> And Leanne and the girls immediately got.

chickens. >> Chickens are awesome. >> The happiest my family was out of all. the times we've been happy was when they. were they had a garden and they were. raising chickens. >> Yeah. It's good for you, man. >> And then that that like extra like did. you guys clean out the chicken coop? You. need to clean like that little. >> Yeah. Work. >> Yeah. >> Work's good for you. >> Yeah. Especially work that pays off. Like you actually get eggs and you have. to eat those eggs. >> Those eggs. >> and that that's like the most karmafree. food that you'll ever get cuz they're. your pets. Like you treat them well. You. feed them. You're like, "Hey girls, I.

see them. I talk to them. They I lift. rocks for them." So they go under the. rocks and pick out bugs and worms and. [ __ ]. >> And they they come near you. They like. waddle over to you when they and you. like get you ready. You ready? You pick. up the rock and they immediately go in. there and try to get the worms and bugs. and [ __ ] And then you get these. delicious, healthy eggs. Best eggs I've. ever had in my entire life. Yellow. >> Yellow. Double. I remember getting. >> orange. Do you remember double yolks? >> You get double yolks. [ __ ] off. >> But you're you're you know exactly how.

they're raised. There's no cruelty. involved. You know how they're fed. They. lay an egg every day. That egg is never. going to become a chicken. You never. like that's what I tell to all my. friends that are like vegetarians that. are doing it for like they they're just. kind people. They don't want an animal. to die. I'm like you don't have to kill. an animal. Just eat eggs. Eggs have all. the nutrients you need. Eat the yolk, eat the whole thing and you'll you'll be. super healthy. Like you can get all the. animal protein you need from eggs and. you don't ever have to worry about an. animal dying. >> So wait, do you think then when you talk.

about what was that happy city is it. called? >> Happy people. Do you think your. connection then to crushing it in the. gym and killing it in the gym is. directly connected to that struggle. direct like the happiest I ever am is. the second my workout's done and I lay. back and I just sweat. >> You did it. Oh. >> yeah, you did it. Your body needs a I. think in order for your body to survive. like when we were hunter gatherers, you. had to do a bunch of work. So, I think. there's human reward systems that are.

built in us that if you don't meet those. requirements, your body gets anxious. And the most anxietyridden, [ __ ] up, mentally ill people I know. are these lazy slobs that are online all. day complaining about people, especially. comics. I know so many comics that they. spend. >> a giant chunk of their day [ __ ] on. other comics and they're all fat and. lazy. And what is that? Well, it's. because they're not healthy. They're not. mentally healthy, physically healthy. >> And so they're completely obsessed with.

other things, external things. You know, when we did that sober October. challenge, Tommy said it best cuz he was. like, "Dude, when you work out, when. we're all competing against each other. to see who got the the highest fitness. scores, Tommy said it best, like when. you work out all day, it kills all that. internal chatter." Like, you don't worry. about things anymore. Oh, that what. about this, what about that? That what. about this, what about that [ __ ] Is. your mind thinking that there's threats. out there in the world? Because there. used to be cuz you're programmed to.

think about like what's out there? What's coming for me? Where the is there. a neighboring tribe that's coming over. the top of the hill? Where am I going to. get my food? There's all that stuff's. built in as a human reward system. If. you don't meet that human reward system, you're just doomcrolling on Tik Tok and. Twitter all day and [ __ ] on people. [ __ ] Whitney Cummings and Miss Rachel. was in the They're just mentally ill. slobs, all of them. And their opinion. should be dismissed. That's why the idea.

of awards is so ridiculous. Who are. these people that are giving you awards? They're all unhealthy people for the. most part. They're all weirdos that are. caught up in this [ __ ] bizarre, strange industry that rewards group. think. Like, [ __ ] off. Yeah, that's. probably the the probably the happiest. my mind was when when we had the the. year we had the straps. >> Remember we had that we were a member of. that Kansas City workout club or. something. >> Yeah. We had to become Yeah. The My.

Zone. The My Zone Fitness Straps. Yeah. >> And I remember I mean I you know like. you have memories in your head where you. like you drive by a place and you go I. remember that. And it was one night I I. said I was I was going to run a marathon. and you're like I'll match it. I. remember we were all texting and I I. remember getting up at like it was like. put the girls to bed. It's 9:00 at night. and I go I'm going to run until midnight. and I had just this one [ __ ] mile. loop and I ran eight miles that night.

and I just kept running and I cannot run. down [ __ ] KFax. I can't drive down. Kfax without thinking of me just going. one more lap. Just one more lap. Yeah, >> those those were [ __ ]. >> wearing yourself out is good for your. brain, man. >> It really good for your brain. >> I don't think we should do that again. because the problem with that is that. lit up that weird part of my brain, that. obsessive part of my brain and my my. wife asked me never to do that again. Like cuz I was like super serious. I got.

like really into it. >> and it it just became an obsession. >> Yeah. It's just it's a it's a dangerous. part of my own brain that I can't. entertain too much because I think. that's the part of my brain that was. formulated in my competition days where. it was like my thought was, you know, like I would go to the gym because I had. keys to the school. So I'd go and train. at 2 o'clock in the morning because I. knew nobody else was. I knew everybody. else was asleep. So I'd go there, I'd. drive there by myself and unlock the. doors and start training at 2 o'clock in.

the morning because I knew everybody was. asleep. >> Yeah. That that made me feel better. Like, [ __ ] while you're sleeping, I'm. in here. You know, >> where did you put that competitiveness? Because I I shelved my competitiveness. I don't have it in comedy. I I have a. competitiveness with the industry that I. felt ignored me at times. Like, I have I. want to prove things like I did fully. loaded because I never got on oddball. >> And so, I I created that festival. I. remember I was with uh we were at at the. Forest Hills Arena or whatever the.

outdoor stadium. Someone's like, "Wow, this is crazy. Can you believe you did. this?" And I went, "Yeah." And they're. like, "What made you want to do this?" I. go, "Because no one would ever invite. me." [laughter] And then they were like, "Wow, that was more of an answer than we. expected." But like, and so there's a. competitiveness with me internally, but. I was very competitive as an athlete, like unhealthy. And it was gross. >> How was it gross? Like what sports? >> By anything, anything I did. Anything. >> That's Michael Jordan, right? When.

you're talking about Michael Jordan, he. was the most health Michael Jordan and. Kelly Slater, the two ones, Tiger Woods, that I hear about and I identify with. the way their brain works where I go, oh, I have that grossness where I create. scenarios in my head to go, that's it. I'm going to [ __ ] I' I'd build up a. rivalry with I have a guy that I think. about to this day who played baseball at. Tampa Catholic. His name was Israel. And. I had a competitive The guy doesn't even. know who the [ __ ] I am. He never knew. me. He was a pitcher for and I [ __ ]. and I and I apologize, Israel, if you're.

hearing this right now. We were 16 and I. had a competitiveness in my head and my. goal was to hit him to hit a line drive. right back in and and he was a pitcher. and he threw inside and I crushed one. off his kneecap and they pulled him out. of the game and I stood on first base. and I was like that's how it goes. [laughter]. >> Israel was 53 years old right now. That. was my [ __ ]. >> trap is to hit him with a line drive so. competitive and so I I and I and when I. got into standup I maybe because I just.

I saw that so many people were so far. beyond me that I was like well I'm not. playing their game I guess so I'm not I. never had a competitiveness in standup. >> Well you can't well you can listen you. could there's a good place for. competitiveness. I mean, I I am. competitive, no doubt. But I don't think. about it in terms of like art. >> Yeah. >> I think my competition with either. standup or with podcasting is to be the. best I can be to do the best job I can.

Like if I have a guy on and he's wants. to talk about some science stuff or. something like esoteric or weird, I have. to read his book or listen to the audio. book. I have to read articles. I have to. get in. I have to do my best. this guy's. gonna fly in here from Europe or. whatever it is, I have to be ready and I. have to be intrigued. And the only. reason why I have him on the podcast in. the first place is because I'm. interested in it. So my my thing is just. do the best that I can. And the the way. that I could do it the best I can is. only talk to people that I want to talk.

to. Only reach out to people that I'm. actually interested in. Only accept. invitations of someone that ignites my. curiosity. And just only do it that way. never say, "Oh, this person would be. great because they're famous." Like, that's one of the things you see about. some of these podcasts that are doing. well. All of their guests are famous, right? Which is like a built-in cheat. code. Like, let's see what this guy and. I have famous people on all the time. If. I think they're interesting, if I want. to talk to them, but I pass on a lot of. famous people because I'm not interested.

in them or because they were like really. heavily pushing the vaccine during the. pandemic. I'm like, "Fuck you forever. [ __ ] you. Yeah, >> there's a few people that have tried to. get on. I'm like, no, I would have. before the pandemic, I would have been. happy to have you on, but now I'm like, [ __ ] you forever. You who who knows how. many people you caused to have heart. attacks. Who knows how many people you. tricked into getting that and they had a. stroke. Who knows? Who knows? And they. didn't need it. Especially the people. that already got COVID. You didn't know. what you were talking about and you just. bootlicked. You bootlick for the [ __ ].

for the man. Like, [ __ ] you. Like, that's it. But other than that, everybody else, it's like, who is it? What do they want to talk about? So, I. just do my best. You know, I'm. competitive when it comes to playing. pool. But really, the pool, you're. playing against yourself. You're playing. another person and the other person is. do. But when you're playing, nobody can. block you. Nobody gets in front of you. You're just trying to do your best. So, it's all against you. All the. competition is against you. Which is why.

I like to work out by myself. I'm I'm. playing against me, you know? It's me. It's like it's whatever my inside little. inner [ __ ] is. I'm trying to squash. that [ __ ] down, beat his ass. again, and then he's back again. tomorrow. Every time I lift the [ __ ]. lid on that coal punch, my inner [ __ ]. is like, "Don't do it. You don't have to. do this. You could not do it and we'll. be fine." Like the other day it was 22. degrees outside and I had to break the. ice off of the top of the thing cuz it. was like covered in ice. I break the ice. off because I got I couldn't barely lift.

the lid off the [ __ ] thing. try to. knock off all the ice and then pick it. up and climb on in. I'm like, "Fuck. you." And this is like it's [ __ ] you to. the inner [ __ ]. >> dude. It's like when you said like I. remember doing an interview with a guy. when he was getting I got a Netflix. special coming out. I'm going to go out. on the road for the next couple weeks. and I was like couple weeks. >> couple weeks. >> couple weeks I'm gone. I don't I'm not. home for one month. I'm the one month. out I'm in my bus every night doing. stand up. 18 months out. I'm like.

obsessive. Yeah. >> Obsess. I've got I'm not shooting my. next one until 2027. And I'm obsessive. today. Last night I was like I tried all. my new [ __ ] I was like I got to find. out if real people laugh at this, >> you know? Like I mean my fans my fans I. think [snorts] my fans are are willing. to give me an inch, you know? >> Well, they also know you. They know your. story. They know all the references. >> Yeah. >> But but what's crazy to me is like we. were me and you. Not I I can't speak for. the younger comics, but we were in a ye.

a time at standup when competitiveness. was the norm. It was because of TV. though, dude. That was what it was. It. was like everybody thought they were. competing for a very small amount of. slots. And then what happened was the. internet came along and we realized that. no, in fact, we're actually an asset to. each other cuz we do each other's. podcast, we hang out with each other, which makes each other better. when. we're all on a show together and you're. killing and Tom's killing and Ari's. killing, the more people are killing, the more we're going to do better.

because we're going to get excited about. it. Yeah. And we'll be inspired. And so. we became valuable to each other instead. of competitive against each other. And. if there was any competition that you. were having among with your friends, it. was actually healthy competition because. it just made you try harder. Like if you. saw if Ari went up and did like when Ari. did his juice special, which [ __ ]. incredible, that special was so good. It. made so many people get inspired to work. on a theme and write and like really try. to develop something. Like look at what. he did. He just like put together this.

[ __ ] incredible special. Like it was. really [ __ ] good. And that kind of. competition is healthy competition. It's. inspirational. Instead of like saying, "I hope that guy gets hit by a bus. [ __ ]. him." All these slobs that are on. Twitter and that are talking [ __ ] about. comedians and are angry about comedians, they have one thing in common. They're. almost all failures. They're either. failures or they're extremely mediocre. >> Yeah. >> They're in the middle of like mediocrity. that no one's no one's got them as their.

favorite comedian. No one's got them as. their favorite podcaster. No one's got. them as anything. They just don't do. that well. So what do they do? They're. attacking people. So their. competitiveness is a very unhealthy. competitiveness. if their. competitiveness was healthy, they would. say, "Well, what is it about this person. where she's getting all these comedy. specials and she's in front of all these. roast? Why is Nikki Glazer doing so well. and I'm not? Instead of hating on Nikki. Glazer, you know, but that's not what. like a narcissist does. What a Well, what about me? How come I'm not getting.

that? She does talk about [ __ ] [ __ ]. that [ __ ] [ __ ] And then they get. all [ __ ] angry and they start talking. [ __ ] about her. Meanwhile, she still. kills it. She's still on the road. She's. still selling out. She's still getting. out there. Everybody screams and cheers. Why? Because she put in the work. And if. you put in the work and if you looked at. yourself and you objectively analyzed. what you're doing and said, "Why is this. going well? Why is this not going well?". and worked harder, you would be where. she is. But you're not. So what are you. doing? You're on Twitter every day for.

12 hours like a [ __ ] mental patient. just [ __ ] on people and getting in. arguments and saying mean things like. you're going to just It's crabs in a. bucket. You're just trying to pull. people down that are doing better than. you. Where you going? get that down. here. That's all it is. >> Yeah, >> it's unhealthy. That's why you can't. read that stuff because you're you're. you absorb the atmosphere of the people. that you surround yourself with. >> And like it or not, when you're. interacting with people on social media, you are surrounding yourself with their. thoughts. >> Yeah. >> You know, and they're unhealthy people.

that you would never hang out with in. real life. And if you did, if you said, "Well, why do you think that way?" And. then they would say something like, "That doesn't make any sense. This is. why that's not doesn't make any sense.". They'd be like, and then they would run away and go talk. [ __ ] about you on social media because. they're cowards. Yeah. >> So, you can't live in a world of cowards. and mental ill people. You can't. It's. not good for you. >> It's uh when I started hanging out with. the the group I'm around now, right? [snorts] I I want to say it was you you.

were saying surround yourself with good. people. And I remember I remember. reading a quote that week and I I've. butchered it, but I said if enough you. hang out with enough great white sharks, people think you're a great white shark. Like I just like like all they see is. the fin, >> right? >> And it's like if I hang out with the. best [ __ ] comics in the world, if I. surround myself with the best comics in. the world, I'm going to have to get. better. Yes. >> Like I'm going to get better. And I and. I remember I can tell you like the first. time I saw your Kim or your uh your. Caitlyn Jenner joke of the of the.

gargoyles, >> the demon. >> Yeah. And you're on the stool and you. you got the stool and the gargoyle. I. remember watching that crying, laughing. going, I'm not using the stage at all. Like I'm not using the stage like god. damn it. Or I remember Burr doing an act. out and I never expected Burr to do an. act out. He was talking to an immigrant. kid he hired that lived in the bushes or. that he he adopted. He goes so and so is. not going to live in the house. we're. going to keep in the bushes. He said, "Come on, man. There's a reason you're. in bushes." But he was doing an act out. And I remember going like, "God damn it, man. I don't ever do act outs." Like, I.

think I always surrounded myself around. better comics to like see what the see. what the meal was being made and go. like, "Well, [ __ ] I'm just making. French fries. You can turn that into a. baked potato." Well, we don't exist in a. vacuum. This is one of the things that I. always say about comics. You never find. the best comic in the country or one of. the best comics in the country by. themselves in Birmingham, Alabama. No, >> it doesn't exist. They're always in. either New York, LA, Austin. There's a. few other places where you find out. about someone really good and they're.

always around other people that are. really good because comedy is one of. those things where you you you really. only experience it live. Like when you. see someone and doing a special, specials are great, but a special is. like 60% of the real show. If you're. there in the audience, you get 100% of. the real show. You get hypnotized by by. the show. you get caught up in it. If. the guys got it together, it's like. really well pieced and timed and edited. It's so much fun. >> But you you got to be there. And when.

you're at a club like and you see Gillis. and Ron White and like we had the. mothership, you have all these great. comics like, man, the atmosphere is just. uplifting. Everybody's inspired and. exciting. And for people that are. listening like, "Yeah, that's great for. you guys. Be [ __ ] famous comedians.". You could do this with your friends. Whatever you're doing, I don't care what. you're doing. Whatever you're doing, if. you guys are all pickle ball players, just work hard to be the best [ __ ]. pickle ball player. Hang out with other.

pickle ball players. Talk about pickle. ball. Get involved in it. Push each. other. Tell tell each other what you're. doing that's making you better. Tell. each other what are the different things. you're doing that's enhancing your. recovery or whatever the [ __ ] you're. into. Find other people that are also. into it. surround yourself with people. that have a similar thing and you all. lift each other up. >> and it's you need the other voices cuz I. think sometimes the best jokes you tell. are like like uh you don't realize. you're telling a joke. You don't realize. it's a bit and then someone goes,

>> "Yo, man.". >> Like I remember we were doing a new. material night one night and I got off. stage and you walked up to me, you go, "Did you really not know that Helen. Keller and Anne Frank weren't the same. person?" [laughter]. >> And I was like, "Yeah, you should think. they're the same person.". >> No. Did you you know what I've been. reading? that Helen Keller was a fraud. >> Yeah. Okay. Hold on. Let's start here. Okay. So, okay. I heard Stevie Wonder. could see. [laughter]. >> Okay. And there's footage of him [snorts]. doing seeing guy [ __ ]. >> Like what?

>> Pull it up. >> There's all sorts of stuff and some very. interesting stories people have told, too. >> Shut the [ __ ] up. Like there's a video. >> That's a great secret to keep that. secret for so long while you're still. alive. Helen Keller's dead and it just. leaked out in 2026. >> Dude, Helen Keller look. >> her doctors were saying that she. responded to stimuli to sound to visual. and then her writing was apparently all. the same grammatical errors and spelling. errors that her handler had. >> This goes back to cubes Joe. It's just.

like he says to me, >> you you lost it all [laughter]. and you built it back. And I just I just. Stevie wondered him. I'm like, yeah, I. can't see, man. Me and Eddie Bravo were. crying, laughing cuz he cuz I was on the. toilet when he called me and uh I'm I'm. taking a [ __ ] And he's like, "Uh, did. Brock Crasher lose everything?" I'm. like, "What? >> That was the first thing you said to. me." He goes, "He was on Shannon." I go, "He didn't lose everything." And I go, "I bet Shannon Sharp just said that.". And I could see Bert totally just going. with it. And we were crying, laughing.

[laughter]. Eddie Eddie and I WERE CRYING LIKE, "WHY. WOULD YOU GO WITH THAT? WHY WOULDN'T YOU. JUST TELL HIM tell you Bert wouldn't he. wouldn't even I don't know SHANNON I. JUST PULL MYSELF BACK UP AND I JUST I I. hit rock bottom. [laughter]. HE NEVER HIT ROCK BOTTOM. HE WAS NEVER. EVEN IN THE MIDDLE. HE WAS ALWAYS DOING. GREAT. >> That's what happened to Stevie Wonder. They were just like, "Hey man, I heard. you're blind." He's like, "What?" And. someone's like, "Just go. >> Come on. This can't be real.". >> I swear to God, there's video of.

>> Ray Charles is blind. Don't kill my all. my. >> Ray Charles is really blind. But okay, Stevie Wonder has got a lot of [ __ ]. too. >> Stevie Wonder, >> you know why? >> Cuz he didn't care what it looked like. >> I didn't give a [laughter] [ __ ] He just. cared what it felt like. Did you smell. good? Do you smell good? Can we [ __ ]. >> I brought a blind guy on [snorts] stage. one time in Harford, Connecticut. I was. like, he was with a [ __ ] smoking hot. chick. >> He probably didn't even know. >> And I know. I said I go, "Dude, it's. what a waste." And he was like, "What?". I go, "You got a beautiful chick, but. you could just I mean, wouldn't a fat. one feel better? Like, cuz [laughter]. you're all touch, right?" And he goes, "No, man. I can feel her face." And I.

went, "What?" He goes, "She's gorgeous.". She was. >> Oh, you could feel her face. >> This is when I was young and there were. no rules in comedy and no one had. phones. >> So I said, "Hey man, come up on stage. I. want you to feel people in the audience. and rate them on a scale of 1 to 10.". >> Oh no. >> And [ __ ] the confidence of these. chicks. [snorts] I'll do it. Gets up. Boy, >> feels her face. She's like, "Oh, four.". And the crowd was like, "This guy's. good. [laughter] He could have worked at. a fair Joe." I mean, he was so [ __ ]. good. He was so good. You have to have. footage of of Stevie Wonder shaking.

dude's hands. Come on. >> He There's one where I saw where he. comes up on stage and Stevie sticks his. hand out to the side and the guy's like, "Hey, what's up, Stevie?" There's. >> Yeah, but I mean, he would hear people. and know that they were to the side of. him. >> I don't know. I That's what I heard. But. then I think that's what happened with. Helen Keller is right the story. >> Well, Helen Keller seems like it was. fraud. It seems like she probably was. like visually impaired. Okay. when. someone attempted to shake hands with. Stevie Wonder. I pray this.

>> Oh, that's a joke. Making fun of it. Okay. So, not that. But I did find So, there's a bunch of compilations of. people like this is from Dr. Champs. These Stevie Wonderond wonder stories. keep getting wilder every time. >> Shout out. You ever had Drink Champs on? >> No. Let's let me Let me hear some of. this. >> Stevie's not blind stories. Stevie. Wonder be facetiming. >> on everything I love. Stevie Wonder does. FaceTime me. >> COME ON, MAN. I CAN'T MAKE THIS [ __ ] UP. >> Come on. >> I was in there chilling with my I was. getting my hair done with my hair.

stylist. You going to tell us a story. >> and my phone and my hair stylist like, "Did I say Stevie Wonder?" I said, "Yep." I went boop. And he was like, "I've been looking for you." [laughter]. >> You know, Snoop Dog say Stevie Wonders. FaceTimes him. >> Yeah. Stevie FaceTimes me too. [laughter]. >> Oh my god. Oh my god. Think Stevie could. see. >> sometimes. >> What? [laughter]. >> Shaq said he rode in the elevator with.

Stevie and Stevie pressed the the. button. [laughter]. >> We lived in the same building on. Wilshire. >> All right. I need to describe the story. >> You can park in front. You can park in. front. >> Uhhuh. >> Or you can park at the bottom. >> Uhhuh. >> I'm already in the elevator. >> So you say Stevie got off his car? >> No, [laughter]. but he got on the elevator. Okay. >> And I'm standing in the corner. I see. him. I don't want to say nothing. He. like, "What up, Diesel?" [laughter]. >> Guess button. Then he got the floor. And. I'm like, >> Shaq said he rolled in the elevator with.

him. He didn't say that he was in there. He just seen Stevie like they lived in. the same building and they they both. walked in and Shaq cuz he didn't want to. say nothing and Stevie said when Shaq. walked out. All right. Later, Diesel. >> No, first he came in. >> Crazy. Yeah, >> that's cra Well, what a what a great. move that would be if he really did it. I think he's blind. >> No, here's it's the picture. >> But what up, Diesel? First of all, the. sound that he would make when he walks. >> Like the Shaq is huge.

>> He's an enormous person. So, you'. probably realize there's an enormous man. next to you. >> You'd have to feel it, >> right? They probably maybe he wears the same. deodorant or cologne because dudes who. who can't see have amazing sense of. smell. Like they people smell differently. Yeah. You know, like certain people. smell different, I guess. I don't notice. it because I could see them, but. >> does have his own deodorant. >> Yeah, there you go. >> No, he has his own deodorant. Shack's. head on it. I think.

>> he probably smelled Shaq's deodorant. >> I don't know. I'm just trying to be. charitable. >> I This is how I think it happened, right? Stevie Wonder goes on what, Ed. Sullivan show at five. And uh and he's. probably hard. He probably can't see. He. probably don't have 2020 vision. He's. probably legally blind, right? uh. legally blind. >> Legally blind. Like he can see [ __ ] but. it's not great vision. And they're like, you know, uh this is little Stevie. And. he's like, "What's wrong with his eyes? We can't [ __ ] put his eyes out like. that. Give him sunglasses.". >> And they just And then the story got.

bigger than it was. I will say this. I. will say this. Okay, I got video of. this. >> This just proves that he might be blind. >> Okay, >> Liam was at a concert the other night. This guy Cory Henry's Steviey's favorite. pianist. Leanne loves Cory Henry. She. goes to the concert. She's sitting next. to Stevie Wonder and Stevie Wonder. didn't stand. The whole place was. standing. And Le was like, "Why isn't he. standing?" I go, "Cuz you only stand to. see. If you're blind, you're going to. sit through the whole show. It's no. different to you, >> right?". >> So I was like, and then I have video of. Stevie Wonder sitting.

>> But it's also convenient cuz who the. [ __ ] wants to stand for a show? >> I don't. >> Helen Keller. >> The Helen Keller one's different. >> The Helen Keller ones. There's doctors. that have said like there's it was. medical records at the time where people. said she was responding to light. >> This says that [snorts] there's uh. that's not true. >> The Helen Keller thing. um medical board archives from 1902 to. 1924 do not contain examination reports. showing Helen Keller had functional. vision and hearing throughout a disabled. life. And the conspiracy that Keller was.

a cash cow for Sullivan is debunked by. the fact that Keller's full life. continued with another companion, Paulie. Thompson, who also interpreted for her. That doesn't mean anything. That means. that other person could be in on it as. well. >> Yeah, >> that doesn't mean anything. Also, this. is a time in 1919. I mean, come on. >> Howard was a lie in. >> 1902 to 1924. I mean, you could get away. with so much. So, she supposedly flew a. [ __ ] plane. This says THAT. >> I TOLD YOU she.

>> No, hold on. Yeah, this says it was from. like a movie and there's no. >> Oh, the movie. She flew a plane in a. movie. >> A silent film. She played herself. [snorts]. >> She played herself flying a plane. They. just thought people were [ __ ] back. then. They're like, "Show her flying a. plane. She's the best. >> She started a university. >> Nothing can hold her back. Why is it. holding you back? She can't hear. She. can't see. And she could talk and write. books." Like, wait, what? >> Okay, that [snorts] is this one article. I knew she flew. >> I I've read things that said that the. people that were examining her said that.

she responded to sound and that she. responded to light. Just because this. one thing says it's not true doesn't. mean that it's not true. >> Well, then here's the question. >> It's also we don't know. This is a. hundred years ago. >> Yeah. >> We really don't know. >> How blind and deaf do you need to be. before you say you're not blind and. deaf? >> Right. Well, the thing is like can you. not hear anything? Can you not see. anything? That's blind and that's deaf. Anything else is like I have poor. hearing and poor sight. >> Yeah, but that doesn't sell a [ __ ].

book, >> right? But that's the problem. Like. maybe she could see a little. Maybe she. just had bad vision and maybe she could. talk a little [laughter] cuz otherwise. how I mean. >> so less impressive. >> Explain to me how you're going to write. books. Explain to me how you're going to. grasp concepts and language and. communication and and interaction. Explain to me. I don't get it. I've. never met anybody since then that's been. able to do it. Do any blind deaf people. today write books and fly planes? >> I don't know if she flew a plane. >> She's just in the plane. That's what it. said. >> Oh yeah,

>> she's in the front of the plane and they. usually flew in front of. >> I saw a blind guy on a plane once. I. didn't think anything of it. I didn't. think he flew. I. >> almost got in a fight with a blind guy. at the Austin airport. >> for what? >> Right after I did the show last time I. was here. I was a little high. I went to. the airport a little drunk. He was. fighting with his wife and he grabbed. her by the back of the arm. >> to leave and I thought he was just. grabbing by the back of the arm like a. dick. And I was like, "Hey." Hey. And. then he turned around. He had sunglasses. on and a cane. And I realized he that's. the only way he could get to the gate. >> Look at Burp being a [ __ ] white. knight. >> I know. >> Stepping in fighting blind guys.

>> I [ __ ] that guy up. [laughter] He. didn't is so easiest fight I've ever. been in. >> Remember. >> the look on the black guy's face at TSA. when I when I couldn't see that he was. blind already and he grabbed his wife's. arm and I went, "Hey." And the black guy. went, "Oh shit." Like not knowing you're. you're talking [ __ ] to a blind guy. >> You were drunk. >> I was [snorts] I was wasted. So are. there any people are there any good. articles that say Helen Keller could. see? >> I asked perplexity. It said she was. blind and deaf caused by u menitis when.

she was 19 months old. [clears throat]. >> Again I wonder wonder if she could see a. little see a little and hear a little. makes a lot more sense that you could. write books. >> So I just stumbled across something. that's I don't know how true it is. just. says that somewhere in the along the way. Stevie Wonder got some sort of. corrective something or other to help. >> Well, so he could see a little bit. >> perception issues or. >> what that means you could see. Stop. lying to me. Damn it. >> But he also another thing says he's got. detached retinas. >> Wait, did you ever see that?

>> Oh, interesting. So he has damaged. vision then. That sounds like damaged. vision. >> Shortly had shortly after birth due to. retinopathy of prematurity from being. born prematurely. He's addressed his. rumors persistently. uh about being able to see it's a. blessing allow him to see people's. spirits not their appearance. >> So this is the Instagram thing that I. saw initially on Helen Keller. I'll send. this to you. >> That's the. >> Yeah, you don't believe that, but you.

believe that [ __ ] article that you. just pulled up. >> No, I'm saying starting with social. media isn't the best place. >> Listen, it's the best place for. information. >> It's where I get all my information. >> Everything's accurate. >> You could start there. >> It's all real. is all real. >> You ever told someone, "Yeah, I read a. book about it." It was just an Instagram. post and they're like, "A book?" I think. I saw the same post. >> Yeah. >> Helen Keller was a fraud. Doctors prove. she could see and hear how her teacher. made millions from the lie. It. [clears throat] said medical board. archive. medical board archives from 1902 to 1924.

allegedly contain examination reports. suggesting Helen Keller retained partial. vision and hearing throughout her life. According to those claims, multiple. physicians noted she reacted to sounds. when Anne Sullivan was not present, tracked movement with her eyes, and. physically flinched at loud noises. One. sealed report is said to conclude that I. don't like that is said to conclude. >> that her responses pointed to. coordinated deception rather than true. disability. >> Sullivan reportedly refused independent.

testing. Aha. The theory argues that the. situation became highly profitable. Sullivan allegedly discovered Keller at. age seven, promoted a miraculous. teaching breakthrough, and toured the. country, charging the modern equivalent. of thousands per appearance. Supporters. of the claims say Keller's autobiography. noticeably changed tone when Sullivan. became ill, suggesting Sullivan authored. both voices. Financial records are said. to show Sullivan controlled all income, keeping Keller financially dependent for. life. Linguistic an analytics.

[clears throat]. cited by conspiracy supporters claimed. Keller's writings mirrored Sullivan's. private letters exactly matching. vocabulary, sentence structure, and even. spelling mistakes. They argued that. Keller wrote without Sullivan present, that when Keller wrote without Sullivan. present, the work appeared elementary, concluding that her eloquent public. words came from Sullivan, not Keller. According to the theory, disability. organizations later built massive. institutions around Keller's story when. evidence questioning her condition.

surfaced. It was allegedly suppressed. due to to [clears throat] rather protect. a lucrative charity, an. inspiration-based industry that relied. on a powerful symbolic figure, >> Lance Armstrong. >> What do you mean? >> This is like this is the this is the. whole like uh the you build the whole. thing and people start coming at you, right? It's like this is the time when. the elephant man was big, >> but Lance Armstrong won those races. And. the thing about the Lance Armstrong. thing is, >> you know, you could say Lance Armstrong.

cheated and he'll tell you he cheated. But the reality is everyone cheated. If. you wanted to go back into the archives. when he won tour to France and figure. out like who didn't test positive, you. had to go to 18th place. Yeah. So they. took away all his jerseys by the way. [ __ ] you to he says because he still has. all those jerseys on the wall. [ __ ]. you can't take them from me. You can say. I didn't win, but everybody knows I won. And everybody knows he won when all. those other guys were doping, too. >> But I was saying they were trying to. protect of a lucrative a lucrative.

profit. >> Uhhuh. >> And that's what didn't happen with. Lance. Like he they they just threw him. under the bus. Well, he was also suing. people who were saying that he took. stuff. Yeah. >> Because they were whistleblowers because. they went after them first and said, "Listen, if you if you blow the whistle. on Lance, we'll get you off the hook.". And so then he would sue them. >> Be a better story if Helen was more like. Lance and they're like, "We got a tennis. partner says you play tennis with a. Helen." [laughter]. >> She was like, she's like, "I'm going to. sue you." And they're like, they're. like, "You're talking pretty good." She. go,

>> but this is around the time when the. Elephant Man was big. So you'd grab on. to something, right? Uh-huh. >> You grab onto something like a sideshow. >> and you'd parade it around the country. >> Especially that woman who's her handler. If that lady was responsible for all of. her finances and had access to all that. money. >> and Sullivan, >> that makes sense. >> That's how I mixed up Anne Frank and. Anne Sullivan. That's how it came about. >> There's nowhere to There's no link here. >> Shut up, Jamie. >> I just want to say, >> stop ruining everything. [laughter]. >> You're right. There's no link there. >> There's not a single link to say And. [clears throat] people even ask like. where are the links and when you Google.

some of the stuff. >> I like that one though. I knew it. >> I knew it. I'm with that guy. >> Christian Harvey. I'm with that guy. I'm. with that guy. >> I've been saying this for years. >> It just doesn't make sense that she'd be. able to write so eloquently. >> Did you ever see Kevin Hart and Dr. Dre. talking about Stevie Wonder? >> No. >> Pull this up. Kevin Hart, Dr. Dre. [laughter] It's cuz Dr. Dre is not mean. like he's not he never tries to be. funny, >> right? >> And he is so [ __ ] funny on accident. on this clip. >> Talking about Stevie Wonder. >> Just Stevie Wonder, Dr. Dre, Kevin Hart.

album with Marsha Ambrosia, right? And. we did some music, a song using Stevie. Wonder's music and he had to clear it. and he called me up like, "Yo, Jay, for. some reason Stevie Wonder calls you like. super early in the morning, like 6:00, 7:00 in the morning or some shit." I'm. like, "Just [music] cuz you can't see. the time [laughter]. the [ __ ]. >> right?" So, true story. [music]. >> Look, I don't like the lyrics. I don't. like the lyrics, right? >> Look at Kevin. >> Okay, we went in and changed the lyrics.

[music] It's like, what if we uh. [laughter]. It's like just. [laughter]. Stevie, it's 3:00 [crying] a.m. >> What the [clears throat] [ __ ] is the. difference? Like 5:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. to Stevie. [laughter]. >> That's true. >> What's the difference? >> That's true. >> That's blind people have a really hard. time sleeping. >> I imagine cuz it's dark all the time. Yeah. >> Yeah. Their circadian rhythm is all.

[ __ ] up, right? They feel sunlight in. their face, though. If they go outside, >> they have to. I do. >> They have to. Yeah. It probably feels. really good. That sun in your face. You're blind. Like, ah, >> you just don't feel the light. Just feel. the warmth. >> I bet you see it when you open your eyes. a little bit. But you see something. >> Depends on your level of blindness, right? Some people could just see light, like a little bit of light. >> I would love that they made like blind. glasses. Like, this is what this is how. blind you have to be to be considered. blind. And you could just put them on. and be like, "Okay, that's blind.". >> Oh, like legally blind glasses.

>> Yeah, like legally blind glasses that we. could all put on. >> And then they're like, "That'd be cool. if they made like version like this is. how blind Helen Keller was." And you put. them on, you're like, "Oh, I can [ __ ]. see.". >> Yeah. We don't know. >> I guess there's no way to find out. >> I'd like to believe that it was a fraud. I think that's fun. I like to believe. that people pull Well, it's like. Watergate. I I like finding out. >> I gotta get rid of that book now. >> Yeah, >> that [ __ ] bums me out. That was. >> Listen, will you watch the episode that. I did with Bill Murray? He [ __ ] hated. that book. He said after five pages he. was like I knew it was [ __ ].

>> God. >> Yeah. Bert, I love you to death. >> Joe, I love you. >> Tell everybody about your show. It's on. Netflix right now. >> Free streaming on Netflix right now. Check it out. If you like it, just enjoy. it. Tell a friend. >> Boom. Boom. >> 275 lbs in this. >> Damn, you look like you lost a lot of. weight. How much you down to now? >> 40 lb. 35 lbs. 45 lbs. I'm. >> You haven't drank in how long? >> Just 17 days. >> That's good. Yeah, I got another I have. a timer set. Five months and 18 days. >> So, at 6 months, you're going to have a.

drink. >> Uh, yeah. Well, I got a second opinion. You know that, Joe. >> Okay. I'll see you in six months. >> I'll see you in I'll see you. >> I'll see you before. Are [laughter] you. coming tonight? You going to be around. tonight? >> I I'm trying to go did spend time with. Tom's kids. I was dinner. >> Okay. Beautiful. >> What's good? Good luck getting Tommy on. the phone these days. >> He's a busy boy. >> Yeah, [snorts] busy boy. >> Yeah, we're all busy. Tom, >> that dude's busy though. No, >> he's kind of crazy busy. >> Yeah, I own a vodka company with him. >> Yeah, he opened up a restaurant. We have. a 5K. You could have come run our 5K, Joe? >> No. >> LA? >> No. Come. I don't go to LA.

>> When was the last time you were there? >> Uh, I guess it was like I went there for the. UFC. 7 months ago or something like that. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> I don't go there anymore. I LA to me is. like a just a bad relationship. Like. that you like you run into a girl that. used to be cool and now she's just a. mess and you're like, "Oh.". >> You don't miss anything about it? >> Nope. [laughter]. I'm good at moving on. >> Thanks for having me on, Joe. >> My pleasure, brother. I love you to.

death. All right. Bye, everybody. [music].